‘Cartel’ – now that’s a new one. Gosh, just how smart this Weyl fellow is.

Yep, that brave new republic of Washington, Jefferson and Franklin, of the Minute Men, the Redcoats and all those battles, death and disability was all done in the name of establishing a ‘cartel’. Not a republic, mind you, a ‘cartel’ – you know like OPEC – which are supposedly formed by ‘cabals’ – look! There’s another cheeky catchphrase! – to ‘rig’ the market, and which, as it happens never quite work out due to ‘market forces’, something no doubt Weyl will have a pat little rhyme to describe.

Yep, it’s all a ‘cartel’, as one can explain to the Palestinians who suddenly saw their own little cartel snatched away from them to replaced someone else’s cartel. Oh come on Pals, a cartel is just a cartel – someone’s exclusive little club – pipe down and take it, after all it’s all about ‘market efficiencies’, that’s the name of the game. Or so The Economist tells me.

Come to think of it, the EU is the daddy ‘cartel’ of them all – an exclusivity of states defined by ‘accident of geograohy’, which just happens to shut out the rest of the world that doesn’t happen to be located on European soil, from various goodies and perks.

And yet, when the UK tries to break away from it, and deal with the big, wide world on a basis of equality, people like Weyl – and the *BIG* pompous bastards at The Economist scream bloody blue murder “It’s the greatest act of national self a destruction *ever*!”.

If you’re not allowed to ask yourself “which workers and consumers are worth competing over” your company/country is not going to do very well.

“I’d rather see a boot stomping forever on the faces of the world’s workers than see anyone happily enjoying life.”

“Also have you noticed how much anti-semitism there is these days? Disgraceful.”

wow, man. now it’s a cartel? you have to hand it to them. they come up with angles and arguments you never would have thought of in a million years. the country is a cartel. a virtual OPEC of job creation – the US is the swing producer of jobs worldwide! why, this cartel suspends price discovery. who can tell what the market price is of an hour of labor with this cartel keeping out 7 billion labor producers.

Is Theil’s book any good?

lol tyrion aren’t you the guy who argued for days in the karlin neoliberalism thread about jewish people not being the nation wreckers they so clearly appear to be? the guy who wrote this cartel line is self identifying. come on man.

None of the business advantages mentioned are really anti-competitive monopolies so much as just reaping the benefits of being first or best with a concept.

The possible exception is the social network effect, in which each new node adds to the value of the entire network.

This seems to be a new twist on the old idea of a “natural monopoly” in which the nature of the technology meant that it would never be efficient to have two duplicate sets of infrastructure serving the same consumers.

For example, a market would presumably never support two sets of duplicate telephone lines going to every house, or two sets of railroad tracks side-by-side.

For this reason, railroads and utilities tended to be subject to price and service regulations.

It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad idea to regulate Facebook or other “natural monopoly” networks the same way. The big difference is that Facebook doesn’t charge consumers directly, but makes its money from using their data to target advertising.

It’s a whole different model that doesn’t really fit any historical analogy perfectly.

The restaurant business does seem particularly brutal, interesting to see the difference in survival rates between Ramsay’s Kitchen Nightmares compare Hotel Hell. Hotels have high startup costs as their moat.

I think what he actually meant to say was, “I’d rather have prosperity for my fellow niche-superior rich, international Jews, than prosperity for an actual nation where I, a rootless cosmopolitan, make my temporary home.”

It’s sort of like how you can refute David Ricardo just by Noticing Certain Things.

No further questions, your honor.

I am so sick of this strange mentality that it no longer amazes me that people actually think a nation is nothing MORE than a trade fair. I come across disingenuous and verbally facile dot Indians who NEVER back down in an argument about mass LEGAL immigration since they are some of the biggest beneficiaries of the same. So that has a lot of ‘logic’ behind that. It’s perfectly understandable although it irritates me to a great extent. It gets exhaustive after a while but they NEVER back down or concede.

Then you have the (((whites))) who support this as well which is understood for someone whose DNA is completely washed with rootless globalism for more than 2000 years. This is also perfectly understandable from their selfish POV. They want more so they don’t feel alone.

However I never understand normal whites echoing the same sentiment. They are, like most naive whites, suicidal at best or masochistic at the worst. What the west has become enrages and shames them while alternately feeding their dark energies . This conflicting emotional wrecking has devastated many a white folk and most of them seem to be of the anglo-scott and germanic variety. I wonder if there are some genes at play here

Oh look. E. Glen Weyl is a “researcher” at Microsoft:

“Research on how to expand the scope of the market beyond the traditional limits of property, democracy and borders.”

So… his job is to figure out a way to increase Microsoft’s market. How to do that when your country’s market is saturated? It’s a mystery.

The comparison to business competition holds a bit, but is actually pro-nationalist. A world with many different cultures that have found different solutions for dealing with the difficulties of life create a sort of competition of ideas. People in one country that doesn’t work very well can look across the border and realize that they do it better over there.

But globalization puts a stop to that. Once we’re all neoliberals with the same economic division of blacks/arabs/whites/asians/jews, we’ll be stuck forever. When the institutionalized cruelties are the same everywhere, it takes a superhuman amount of freethinking to realize it doesn’t have to be that way.

So yeah, yay competition. So close the border.

The “cost of entry” into the market is underplayed.

Were some enterprising “Dreamer” or what the Italians call “Vucompras” – (“Wanna buy?”) the ambulant African vendors of counterfeit products- to decide to spread their blankets down on, say, Rodeo Drive, the proponents of freedom of commerce would hastily recall the benefits of regulation.

America was the Coca-Cola or Apple of countries, but how can that be justified?

So did Coca-Cola and Apple stop hiring external candidates when they were on top? Or should they have? Otherwise this analogy doesn’t make sense. If you take your country-as-corporation analogy to its logical conclusion, you’ll have to RIF existing citizens and solicit new (better) ones from outside on a continuous basis.

Interesting. Hard to overstate the importance of network effects in our current economic landscape. Ben Thompson at Stratechery writes about this concept further and calls it Aggregation Theory. Facebook, Google, Amazon, Netflix, Uber, Airbnb, etc. – the biggest tech companies today rely on aggregating not only demand but supply and distribution. Monopoly is the only end game. https://stratechery.com/2017/defining-aggregators/

Also, Glen Weyl (who seems to be some kind of academic/corporate gadfly living off monopoly capital) is very ambiguous (maybe actually confused) about what “competition” means. Does it mean that non-US workers and consumers compete to be employed by and buy from the US, to Americans’ benefit? Or does it mean that US workers and consumers have to compete with foreigners, to Americans’ detriment? Both involve competition, after all.

Given his priors, we may conclude the latter.

None of the business advantages mentioned are really anti-competitive monopolies so much as just reaping the benefits of being first or best with a concept.

You say Facebook is a monopoly… It’s an anti-competitive monopoly. That’s not meant in a negative way or to imply that they cheated. Facebook obviously did great work to get where they are. But it’s absolutely “anti-competitive” in that customers don’t want lots of competing Facebook-like entities. and there is no real competition.

Thiel’s argument is that as an investor or business stakeholder, you want to be the monopoly like Facebook, not the undifferentiated competitor like a restaurant.

Everyone on this Alt-Reich website blames Jews for putting themselves first (blood libel), but check out Exhibit A, Peter Tiele the typical bloodthirsty heartless goy.

Isn’t most of life un-economic? Aren’t most people un-economic?

There are plenty of sporadic paychecks; old, young, infirmed, criminal, parasitic people; plenty of bankruptcies, poor investments, lost investments; etc.

Hypnotoad666 wrote:

It wouldn’t necessarily be a bad idea to regulate Facebook or other “natural monopoly” networks the same way.

Well… if you or I were doing the regulating, perhaps!

But, we would not be doing the regulating. And, Trump would most assuredly not be doing the regulating either — legislation allowing such regulations (and/or interpretations by the courts) would most assuredly rule out “political interference” by the President. Indeed, any “interference” by anyone who did not hold Establishment-liberal views would be held to be “political” interference.

So, the regulating would in fact be done by some “civil servants” deep in the Permanent Government who held “neutral” (i.e., Establishment-liberal) views. Often, they’d do nothing (bureaucrats are, thankfully, lazy!).

But, when they did bestir themselves to take action, their targets would be not CNN or Facebook but unz.com or Breitbart.

Be careful what you wish for.

According to the dust jacket of his 2017 book, After the Flood,

E. Glen Weyl is a senior researcher at Microsoft Research New York City and a visiting senior research scholar in the Department of Economics at Yale University and at Yale Law School.

Which is to say that he lives off the capital accumulated by Microsoft’s OS monopoly and the rentier capital of Yale’s enormous endowment while he emits whatever fashionable notions cross his smooth brow.

In other words, he is advocating merciless competition upon you, while he lounges languidly on the velvet pillows of monopoly rentier capital.

Given Mr. Weyl’s prominent use of triple parentheses, it is tempting to put “you” in the previous sentence in reverse triple parentheses. Very tempting.

I read it as Glen Weyl being so brainwashed he thinks more people=more GDP, so compete away all the workers of the world into our little slice of Heaven.

The more sardines in the can, the better.

The result after the current State “regulates” Facebook.

This post is an apt analogy. The traditional US is like a successful monopoly. Weyl and other open border advocates want to break up the US for the benefit of outsiders and enable more intense global competition where as SSC says, “life will be nasty, brutish, and short.”

This crowd should be prepared to lose. And lose big. The bigger picture is worth fighting for. Two big reasons to fight for immigration restriction even if it seems likely to lose:

1. Make it clear that mass immigration and ending nation states is being done against the will and interests of the existing citizens and in the interest of outsiders. This is rather obvious now, but make it more explicit, more clear, and harder to obscure and throw snow over.
2. Simply slowing the acceleration of the issue is beneficial. There are some deep moral truths on our side. As the famous quote goes, “I’m on the wrong side of history, but the right side of reality”. We are also on the right side of certain moral truths that will perpetuate. More time allows more of those truths to be seen.

Ultimately, we have to perpetuate our culture and our values. We will win, even if in the long run, we won’t keep our national borders and traditional nation states.

Does it mean that non-US workers and consumers compete to be employed by and buy from the US, to Americans’ benefit? Or does it mean that US workers and consumers have to compete with foreigners, to Americans’ detriment? Both involve competition, after all.

I, to be as kind as possible, assumed his point was that countries should compete for citizens (through good government?) just as countries currently compete for Corporate HQs (through low corporate tax rates, high stability and trade links.)

I suspect this means, to him, that citizens would have it as good as corporations do currently. Indeed, this already happens a bit among the very rich, who then pay almost no tax.

Sadly, he does what is all too common in that he reifies a country and forgets that it is just a vessel, ideally owned by and for its citizens, and I very much doubt he can come up with a compelling reason for why those citizens, in the first world, would give up their shares and voluntarily impoverish themselves.

Furthermore, since citizens are both owners and consumers of the product the organisation is less like a typical PLC and more like a private members’ club, in that loyalty to current members and extreme discrimination as to who gets let in is much more important to long-term shareholder/member value than current amenities.

Also, by missing the points above he misses the biggest point: we are where we are after millenia of competition (and cooperation.) His overly abstract thinking has caused him to, inadvertantly, argue for a Year Zero, wherein we just start the same process again but with a blank slate – an utterly autistic proposal.

A cartel, Huh? I think I’ve found a work-release program for El Chappo. He can show members of the American Cartel how his cartel dealt with troublesome journalists. Perhaps this can be used to highlight President Trump’s criminal justice reforms.

“The big difference is that Facebook doesn’t charge consumers directly, but makes its money from using their data to target advertising.”

Or restated as: Facebook’s public users mistake themselves to be the customers when they are actually the suppliers. The real customers are the Cambridge Analyticas of the world, who pay actual money to Facebook for access to the material stored by Facebook from the suppliers (users).

“It’s a whole different model that doesn’t really fit any historical analogy perfectly.”

Maybe, maybe not, once the parties are correctly identified. US anti-monopoly law (and as far as I know, every other country’s) is geared toward preventing monopolies against customers. Do the customers—Cambridge Analyticas, et al.—feel that Facebook is locking out alternatives? I don’t know.

On the supplier side, Facebook clearly does lock out alternatives, for the network effect reasons you and others already identify. The technical name for a monopoly against suppliers is “monopsony”. Because it is more obscure than a customer-directed monopoly though, it draws less legal flak. Indeed, arguably Big Tech’s major competitive advantage since at least the days of Microsoft is their monopsony power: that everyone else has to compete to be compatible with and to cater to them. Included among those needing to cater to the monopsonists is their employees and the employees’ wages.

So, tl;dr, Facebook seems more complicated because 1) the suppliers are confused about their real role, and 2) Facebook’s monopoly is strongest on the supply side, which has less legal risk. But if 1) is cleared up, 2) becomes more straightforward.

This is a pretty clear-cut wish for Open Borders

AM, that sounds about right. I took one look at Weyl’s lofty pronouncement and wondered who in the hell this gasbag was.

“In other words, he is advocating merciless competition upon you, while he lounges languidly on the velvet pillows of monopoly rentier capital.” That may be a good way of summarizing what I learned in business. Lard-assed business featherbeds are good for me–but not for thee.

Years ago General Motors talked the state of Ohio into building a new interchange near its local assembly plant, citing “competitiveness” reasons. The interchange was built, GM got its crony capitalist bailout, but the plant will be shuttered next month. By contrast, a buddy of mine had his appliance repair business gutted by months-long road work that curtailed access to his shop. The city didn’t care. He took a midnight retail job just to keep going.

I was sales manager for a tiny company in which I owned a small minority stake. The majority owner shut it down. He was hit by legal problems, marital problems, and, in my opinion, we failed to expand to escape from a bad contractual relationship.

I’m not a fan of the popular business book genre. Genuine opportunities are rare, capital requirements are often underestimated, the demands on time and energy are extraordinary, rewards are distant and costs immediate.

“countries should compete for citizens (through good government?) just as countries currently compete for Corporate HQs”

So will the intelligence of the children of the dot Indian software engineers regress to the low East Indian mean? Well, not if they marry equally bright peers, both Indian and Euro/American. And then what will we have created? A distinct caste of interbred overseers who will have no affinities or “bonds of affection” with the broader population.

This doesn’t bode well. Things are going to get much worse for the bulk of American citizens before they get better–if they ever do.

Ironic tweet for a (((guy))) whose policy proposals for social justice includes the objective of solving social conflict arising out of political issues.

It’s why I love Twitter; you see behind the public lies.

No surprise, either, that one of his heroes is Henry George. Make of that what you will.

“All happy companies are different: each one earns a monopoly by solving a unique problem”

Microsoft. And for the longest while, Bill Gates was very, very, happy. Also didn’t hurt that Gates’ father was a business attorney to help corporations vs anti-trust suits.

“I, to be as kind as possible, assumed his point was that countries should compete for citizens”

That is indeed kind, and that’s why we love you T2, (along with your Oxonian intelligence). And all your points follow logically and fairly from that kind assumption.

But since he specifically deprecates “a cartel for the benefit of 330 million people [i.e. citizens]”, it is very hard to bear this assumption out. He self-evidently wants American citizens to be no better off than billions of third worlders. Indeed, under the Weyl Plan, Americans would be even worse off than everyone else, since Americans’ citizenship would by definition confer no benefit whatsoever (making them effectively stateless), while foreigners’ citizenships could still confer some benefit on them.

“this means, to him, that citizens would have it as good as corporations do currently”

Correction: this means, to him, that foreign citizens would have it as good as corporations currently do. American citizens, already being stuck here, don’t need to be competed for and are SOL.

“I very much doubt he can come up with a compelling reason for why those citizens, in the first world, would give up their shares and voluntarily impoverish themselves.”

Agree.

“Furthermore, since citizens are both owners and consumers of the product the organisation is less like a typical PLC and more like a private members’ club, in that loyalty to current members and extreme discrimination as to who gets let in is much more important to long-term shareholder/member value than current amenities.”

Agree. Good point I haven’t heard before. (Substitute “Inc.” or “C Corp.” for “PLC” with American readers.)

“Also, by missing the points above he misses the biggest point: we are where we are after millenia of competition (and cooperation.)”

Agree.

“His overly abstract thinking has caused him to, inadvertantly, argue for a Year Zero, wherein we just start the same process again but with a blank slate”

Not quite blank. I’m sure part of his plan is that he keeps his monopoly capital privileges.

This seems to be the sentiment of much of left – didn’t Ezra Klein push back against Bernie Sanders’ comment about mass immigration being a Koch Brothers proposal by saying that by letting them in we’re making them less poor, and our goal should be less poor people in the world? Obviously the fact that it makes our unskilled laborers poorer as well isn’t a concern of his.

I find the argument that we owe something to Mexico or Central America countries absurd. After all, we’re all living in states that are the product of European colonization…it’s just that ours has been extremely successful whereas the Spanish/Portuguese ones much less so. Progressives don’t want to consider why that is the case.

I wonder if (((E. Glen Weyl))) has the same opinion of another cartel in the Middle East that benefits an even smaller number of people.

That is indeed kind, and that’s why we love you T2, (along with your Oxonian intelligence).

Absolutely not, and you have no right to claim to speak for others. Your opinions and yours only, unless stated otherwise by the parties concerned.

It must be nice being female and having everyone kiss your ass all the time. You can pretty much do and say whatever you want and people will still kiss your ass. And then they actually have the audacity to complain about how they are oppressed.

Something is coming. There are numerous social media cases making their way up through federal court, and one of them will reach the Supreme Court in a few years. Currently most of the cases are saying that state officials cannot moderate comments on their pages based on Viewpoint discrimination. If that’s the case, and these platforms are really digital public forums, then I don’t see how Facebook and Twitter can use algorithms that discriminate based on conservative or liberal viewpoints either.

Glen’s ((( ))) says it all. Final phase of stage four libertarianism.

The ONLY way to make the elites care about the national people is through nationalism.

If the business class goes globalist, it can just go for the cheapest labor abroad or bring over foreigners and replace national workers. If the political class goes global, it can ignore the interests of the national folk and replace them with foreigners who will always vote for the globalist elites(who let them in).

It’s like the only way to make a man or woman remain loyal to the family is by matrimony and monogamy. If allowed to indulge in ‘free love’, they will seek out more excitement while ignoring own spouse and children.
Nationalism is marriage of elites and people. Globalism is ‘free love’ and ‘free trade’ for the elites. No wonder they love it so much.

Globo elites replace national folks with foreigners to keep the power for themselves.
They are for Open Borders(for peoples and US military) but not Open Corridors(of power), that is unless THEY get to meddle in other weaker nations(esp those hated by Jews and Homos).
They ignore the very real mass demographic invasion of the US but go into hysterics about imaginary ‘Russia Meddling’. So, masses of foreigners, legal and illegal, can totally replace the national folk, but foreign elites better not interfere with the concentrated power and privilege of the US deep state globalist class(unless the foreigners happen to be on the same globo-homo wavelength as junior partners of US hegemony).

Mr. Weyl also is writing an essay on “Why I am not a nationalist.”

I think he reveals the reasons for that in how he punctuates his name on Twitter.

At some point we are going to need to forcibly replace the heads the Jewish establishment with David and Daniel Horowitz (no relation), Stephen Miller, Laura Loomer, Nina Rosenwald, etc. etc. etc.

(((E. Glen Weyl)))
I would rather have some competition for the workers and consumers of the world than a cartel for the benefit of 330 million people.

AnotherDad
I would rather we pitch out disloyal assholes and run our nation for the benefit of our 330 million fellow citzens.

I’d rather have a competition for the money and other possessions of Glen Weyl than a cartel for the benefit of one person.

Tolstoy opens Anna Karenina by observing “All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”

From Paul Johnson’s Intellectuals:

The moment one begins to search one’s own observed experience, it becomes clear that both parts of this statement are debatable. If anything, the reverse is closer to the truth. There are obvious, recurring patterns in unhappy families–where, for instance, the husband is a drunk or a gambler, where the wife is incompetent, adulterous, and so forth; the stigmata of family unhappiness are drearily familiar and repetitive. On the other hand, there are happy families of every kind.

This reflects my own view as well.

Capitalism ceased to exist quite some time ago. We live today in a Weekend at Bernie’s economy that is being kept animated by unrepayable debt, while in the meantime the capital base underneath it all slowly disintegrates. Here is an interesting fact that more people should try to grok before making fantastic prognostications about future growth and prosperity: Reported, before-tax corporate profits have been flat for the last 8 years. The global economy has stopped growing and will shortly (within 2 years) enter an inevitable decline from which there is no end in sight. The demographic winter soon to befall the developed world is insurmountable.

Furthermore, anybody who is not a brain-dead stupid buffoon should never even breathe the idea that Facebook ought to be regulated like a utility. That is just about the faggiest notion ever to cross a mortal mind. Nothing could be more redolent of the decadence besetting Western modernity than grown adults insisting that their right to send each other kitten pictures and margarita hangover updates is so goddamned vital to their existence that it needs to be enshrined as a permanent fixture of normal living, and regulated to that end.

Facebook needs to be destroyed. It needs to be put under the sword in a manly act of governance, the dripping head of Mark Zuckerberg hurled off the parapets just to drive the message home, with other social media companies and their executives shortly to follow. The reaction of any real man to the mere existence of social media should be precisely that of a father who returns home to find his young sons masturbating to gay porn: Crush the thing at once, drive out the evil spirit and burn the memory of it, remove the source of temptation. For that is precisely what social media is—perverted socio-sexual titillation for infantile adult specimens. A real leader who cares about his people would never tolerate it among them.

Comparing a country to a cartel reveals a lot about the mind of these people.

“In other words, he is advocating merciless competition upon you, while he lounges languidly on the velvet pillows of monopoly rentier capital.”

Isn’t that precisely the situation of English capitalism, perhaps especially in its glory days of Victorianism? Didn’t it make certain that a few were rich as decadent kings and others lived comfortably off ‘so many pounds per year’ of interest, while the masses were driven into deeper poverty that rarely could be ameliorated without emigrating?

And now the Elites of the WASP world not only do not profit from from encouraging their poor whites to emigrate to a savage or barely civilized land, but they get richer from bringing non-whites in to replace the poorer whites.

Let’s solve that problem with more adulation for all things WASP – it’ll make us feel so cozy while the Elites of the Anglosphere fatten ever more as they squeeze us to death.

If this guy really cared about his virtue signalling he would be against immigration unless he thinks that importing more cheap labor to be exploited is somehow making the source counties richer and less dependent on racist evil U.S. White people.

Theil’s first entry should be “network effect” not “proprietary technology”. Relying on proprietary technology is a mistake when going from 0 to 1 unless it’s a secret weapon you can deploy to acquire control of a leading patent law firm. Otherwise your brother in law better be a patent lawyer or, better yet, partner in a leading patent law firm. And you’d better be on _very_ good terms with him from the outset. I’ve horror stories about patent fees that would make your toes curl and rectum pucker.

Everyone should be taught about the network effect from the first day they enter kindergarten. It’s the foundation of civilization’s power and centralization of its benefits by elites is civilization’s downfall as they become corrupted by its power. Moreover, internalization of positive network externalities doesn’t require starting a business. All you need to do is buy land. This is why the original “progressive”, Henry George (or perhaps John Stuart Mill) recommended land value taxation as a single tax in support of government and, at least in George’s case, recommended a citizen’s dividend be paid out — what nowadays is sometimes called an “Unconditional Basic Income”. But be careful about “UBI” in “the national conversation”. The primary game being played with that phrase is changing it, as did MLK Jr. to “Universal Basic Income” so as to permit weasel-room to lard “means testing” onto it — making it “conditional”. That’s so that public sector bureaucrats can have positions of arbitrary power over the population, as they do now with the welfare state.

Every. Single. Time.

This view of pure competition is true in the large, but slightly pessimistic. The operating cost of a business includes the incomes of the people who run it. If some of the employees (including the owner) need to have skills that are generally in demand, they will be able to extract a fair salary, even in a business that is in a purely competitive field. This does require that the business will suffer without the talented employee, of course.

Put another way, any business field that benefits from talented employees will inherently grant monopoly power to the companies with the best employees.

No matter how many ‘hate hoaxes’ are disproved, the same Narrative is repeated over and over.

No matter how many Neocon lies are discredited, the same Narrative is repeated over and over.

Fish rots from the head.

The United States of America as a corporation or charter or royal grant?

Why are we still surprised by this way of looking at this English outpost on the Atlantic and now the Pacific?

A patriotic populist candidate has to understand history on a blood and spiritual level to defeat the globalizers.

The new definition of Populism is a citizenry’s search for a new ruling class.

White Core American Patriots will attain power by cutting more of the European Christian ancestral core in on the action of the American Empire.

Call for the nationalization of the Federal Reserve Bank and the repudiation of all government debt. Explain this nation as a commercial enterprise to benefit the native citizens. Get radical and stay radical. Virginian Anglo-Normans such as George Washington got radical and so did Anglo-Saxons like the cads in the Adams family.

Global politics distilled for you:

Debt and demography

Monetary Extremism and Mass Immigration

I would rather we pitch out disloyal assholes and run our nation for the benefit of our 330 million fellow citzens.

agreed!!!

This seems to be the sentiment of much of left – didn’t Ezra Klein push back against Bernie Sanders’ comment about mass immigration being a Koch Brothers proposal by saying that by letting them in we’re making them less poor, and our goal should be less poor people in the world? Obviously the fact that it makes our unskilled laborers poorer as well isn’t a concern of his.

Also, it’s stupid and wrong on it sown terms. Allowing immigration doesn’t make fewer poor people; it makes more of them.

It’s a subsidy. If you subsidize poor people, you get more of them.

I prefer to point out the BIG JEW plutocrats pushing mass legal immigration and open borders illegal immigration rather than to harp on a LITTLE JEW dolt parroting the plutocrats for some table scraps.

Shelly Adelson and Mike Bloomberg and Mark Zuckerberg and Paul Singer are part of the BIG JEW crowd that pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

President Trump is in bed with Shelly Adelson on mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

“After all, we’re all living in states that are the product of European colonization…it’s just that ours has been extremely successful whereas the Spanish/Portuguese ones much less so. Progressives don’t want to consider why that is the case.”

Funny thing about colonization….. people discuss the evils of the British Empire and British imperialism…..but they never ask how a chilly, rainy little island came to rule a quarter of the world while bigger regions more blessed with natural resources did not.

Why doesn’t Israel become more “competitive”? After all, world GDP can only benefit from Israel throwing open its doors to the people of Africa and the Middle East. Indeed, we don’t want the historically victimized Israeli Jews to be victimized again by missing out on the vibrancy that their overseas co-ethnics so enthusiastically recommend to other nations, especially nations with a majority of people who happen to think they are White.

I have heard it said that Israel is too crowded for immigrants, but this is obviously just xenophobic hate speech. After, New York City is phenomenally crowded, and yet avails, and has availed itself historically, of a bounty of immigrants, so much so that people who think they are White have been a minority there for years. It goes without saying of course that this is a VERY good thing, and I just want Israel to share in this blessing that their people have helped to bestow on western nations.

A very iStevey article
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/02/football-white-flight-racial-divide/581623/

These white liberals at Atlantic have no shame.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/remember-that-gay-couple-married-by-rbg-they-just-got-charged-with-rape/

I’m not American but my view is that the US pushed for “free makets” when it benifitted them, but now with rise of China and other economies we’re seeing American Govenrment engaged in trade wars and trying to ensure advantages for themselves first.

In addition to being, presumably, an open borders guy, Weyl is the classic example of a person who does not have to face the consequences — at least yet — of his own ideology, as Victor Davis Hanson so eloquently puts it.

Whenever I bump into a person who likes open borders or has that wonderful “tolerance” for those “yearning to be free,” I’ll say.

“Good. We’ll send the malnourished unaccompanied minors, along with the unskilled uneducated testoserone addled military age males, to YOUR house.”

It’s a fantasic buzz killer.

That possibly was the stupidest justification ever burbled for floodgating immigration. And gotta love the hideously phony big-heartedness. Mystery why the (((whos))) always are stunned by hatred they engender in (((whoms))). Gentiles are natural monsters inside. … When backstabbed enough.

Weyl’s tweet is hardly a model of clarity. But my guess is that he is trying to say that the workers of the U.S. are acting as a “cartel” by keeping foreigners out of the U.S. labor market.

If so, that is basically the extreme libertarian position of Reason and Cato, etc.

In the short run, that policy might maximize GNP on paper. But the extreme libertarians ignore the fact that people are not imported bushels of wheat. They require tax-financed public services and welfare and eventually they change the culture and have birthright babies who vote for socialism and affirmative action.

Mr. Weyl also is writing an essay on “Why I am not a nationalist.”

Is the essay titled, “The Case Against a Jewish State”?

This reflects my own view as well.

Wasn’t Tolstoy African?

Also, it’s stupid and wrong on it sown terms. Allowing immigration doesn’t make fewer poor people; it makes more of them.

It’s a subsidy. If you subsidize poor people, you get more of them.

Could you explain how this works in practice with people?

With the current Iron Curtain falling over social media one wonders if they can maintain a monopoly when so many are not allowed to play? I can see a Coke-Pepsi model for social media representative of the hard political/archetype divide we find ourselves in. Once it is known that Facebook will appease politicians wants and desires via censorship (see Zuckerber and Merkel and the Cologne Rapefest) why would you continue to bother with it? At least Coke and Pepsi produce similar brown, sweet, fuzzy water that people like.

I am not convinced that Scott Alexander has described how to profit in business accurately. He uses the term monopoly generically to describe offering a unique product or service either not offered by anyone else or the same which one delivers better to obtain some exclusive advantage. His scenario about restaurants misses the point If frank opens an Indian Restaurant, I am not going to open another just down the street. If I do the research correctly, I will look at what all those who don’t like Indian food desire and tailor my establish for them . . . and so it goes, Italian, Spanish, Chinese . . . it diversifies the competition and increases choice. At some level competition is actually decreased with a lean to exclusivity (monopoly). The other is to the benefit of friending or building a loyal clientele, that simply enjoys or attends to one’s offering regardless of a similar offer across the street, even if it’s better.

This barring the unfair and dishonest tactics that any economic system might invite from irresponsible participants.

“[Glen Weyl is]a political economist and social technologist seeking to harness computers and markets to create a radically equal and cooperative society.”

“Harnessing markets” doesn’t sound good at all.

Effective altruists may the most pedantic and irritating people on the planet. It’s also a ludicrously detached and alienating ideology, as treating everyone from every ethnicity, nation, region etc. on the planet as 100% fungible pretty much precludes being a member of a community. Can’t say it comes as a surprise that this sort of thing is popular with the Vox set.

TNR of all publications did a profile of Klein a few years ago that struck me as ludicrously unflattering. He comes across as the most gutless and consensus-shaped striver god ever let through the door.

America was the Coca-Cola or Apple of countries, but how can that be justified? So now it’s America Up for Grabs.

What are we all grabbing for?

I say we are grabbing for the electronics.

Some dead guy named Chalmers Johnson who got a few bucks from the CIA here and there — it doesn’t make him a bad person — said the American Empire is an empire of bases, military or sneaky kind of bases.

That’s not the satellite view of the American Empire.

It is the electronics that provides the American Empire with the power to subdue the United States and certain global adversaries.

Of course, an English-origins outfit with tens of millions of people with some German blood and tens of millions more with European Christian blood also helps a lot to explain the American Empire.

The American Empire has an electronic currency and electronic propaganda and electronic command and control of nuclear weapons.

Over 90 percent of US currency is electronic.

The ruling class has begun massive censorship and de-platforming actions on the internet to stifle any electronic counter-propaganda to the ruling class’s propaganda. The mass democracy of the United States must be captured by continued control of the mass media. Trump’s use of the internet to bypass the corporate propaganda apparatus irritated the ruling class to no end.

What are we all grabbing for?

What should the White Core American Patriots be grabbing for?

The control of the electronic spine of the American Empire.

The peoples of Mexico, Central and South America surely must realize that their awful governments are their own fault. Or are so many of them unengaged and marginalized that they just shrug and try to get along with the local family festivals?

It’s so strange to me that the Mexicans and such that I know here are honest and hard-working. And yet their home countries are filled to the brim with corruption.

Granted, I’m deeply ensconced in the Christian middle-class. I guess it’s also likely that the people who want honesty in life have all left those countries.

OT- Looks like NY Times conservative David Brooks has found his candidate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/31/opinion/kamala-harris-2020.html

Kamala Harris, Call-Out Star

She developed what Benjamin Wallace-Wells of The New Yorker called an “eye for an enemy” — the ability to spot the villain in any situation.

Who could that villain in any situation be?

In her memoir, “The Truths We Hold,” she describes her political campaigns as a series of hard-fought battles against tough foes.

Probably worth reading.

That association has haunted her over the years, but Harris made it clear at one forum that there is no way she’s going to bend if Brown or his allies try to influence her. “You just make them understand that if they’re going to try to hurt you, they’re going to get hurt more.”

Indeed.

When you major in economics as an undergrad, they teach you about the glories of perfect competition in the wheat market. Who wouldn’t want to be in a perfect situation?

I dunno about the glories of perfect competition in the wheat market…

One of the anecdotes I remember from Econ 101 was that the farmer who increases his output is likely to see no gains to his income (for all his additional labor) as the increased supply offered to the market will tend to have the effect of lowering prices (in order for the market to absorb in increased supply).

So-called perfect competition had the effect of discouraging additional effort and efficiency as no gains were to be earned from the increased output achieved by additional labor or capital inputs.

The glories appear to benefit the consumer, not the farmer/producer/entrepreneur. Perhaps this is the iSteve point.

She won’t bend for Brown, huh? Nothing more inspiring than a woman who’s on top of things.

Or at very least the federal government.

(((E. Glen Weyl)))

I would rather have some competition for the workers and consumers of the world than a cartel for the benefit of 330 million people.

)))Svigor(((

Fine, show us you’re serious and open up your back yard (Israel) for competition. Once it’s no longer a cartel for the benefit of Jews, we’ll consider implementing your preferences elsewhere. But not before.

Social media might be a better example of a natural monopoly than electrical or communication infrastructure is. With physical infrastructure, it might be unlikely that parallel networks would arise, but it wouldn’t defeat the whole purpose. With certain types of social media, having one big network with everyone on it is the entire point. You could smash Facebook or Twitter tomorrow, and in each case One Big Network would replace them in short order. Which is why it’s so wrong-headed to suggest breaking up Facebook or Twitter; one of the pieces of each will win the ensuing struggle and become the new One Big Network in short order. The solution is to regulate the tech scum and force them to respect free speech. The carrot can be lower tax rates, or something. The stick can be higher rates, plus liability for the bad things people say on their networks (if they’re censoring their users beyond what the law requires they’re publishers, not a public square or a bulletin board, and publishers are liable).

They’ve been regulating telcos for generations. Had any problem discussing whatever you like over a phone line, lately? We don’t let telcos disconnect you just because they don’t like you or your politics. Doing the same thing to social media tech companies, at least the big ones, is a good idea IMO. They shouldn’t be able to censor their users’ speech without serious consequences (as I said in a previous comment, I like the idea of big tax breaks for companies that comply – let’s see them explain forgoing a 50% lower tax rate to their shareholders).

My regular recollection of the Tolstoy quote was always wrong as it would be the inverse of what Tolstoy wrote. As like you, Johnson’s view reflected my own lived experience.

Happy families have myriad reasons for being happy; unhappy families usually have some familiar pattern of psycho-socio-economic dysfunction.

As the current ‘bourgeois values’ pronouncement for youths today to avoiding poverty recommends: 1) stay in school and graduate, 2) avoid drugs and crime, 3) get a job, 4) do not have children until married.

Unhappy families can usually point to the violation of any one of those recommendations as the cause for their dysfunction.

I would agree with you if Leo Tolstoy were a sociologist instead of a novelist. Rather what I think Tolstoy is getting at is that happy families are alike in a sort of virtuous spiritual union, but in unhappy families each individual is driven back to his or her own devices and isolation.

The next paragraph of Anna Karenina implies this view by describing the separate and individual miseries of each member of the family even unto the servants.

Every person in the house felt that there was no sense in their living together, and that the stray people brought together by chance in any inn had more in common with one another than they, the members of the family and household of the Oblonskys.

Maybe a Russian speaking commenter would have more to say about this. I also wonder if the line is as quoted in Russia as it is in the English speaking world?

At least he honestly describes the issue.

The left and globo-capitalists want to take our patrimony for themselves and whatever randoms want to come here and work for them.

The “330 million” have value only when they serve elite goals. The fact they get to vote just invites mischief like tariffs and capital gains taxes and “labor cartels.”

There really isn’t anything interesting here, Weyl’s just spouting standard issue Jewish Globalism.

Their desired global organization is essentially an imperial tyranny that suppresses any attempt of people–i.e. majorities–to organize themselves to look out for their own interests. Everyone, everything must be kept open and penetrable.

They have had great success in the United States. Gone is our ability to live in our own neighborhoods or attend our own schools. To hire and fire as we wish or do business with whom we wish or even for what we wish–religious beliefs or personal preferences be damned. Even to socialize–dare i say “country clubs”–as we wish. Basically we’ve been stripped of freedom of association. Federalism has been attacked and pretty much castrated. Government is controlled by unelected judges and bureaucrats. “Government of the people”–the Republic–is gone.

But their problem is that globalism is inherently a whack-a-mole enterprise. Because everyone is better off–leads more pleasant, more comfortable and more meaningful lives–if they toss these parasites out and run their nations for the benefit of their citizens. So the danger of rebellion keeps the globalist permanently agitated. That’s why the shrieking over Russia, Orban, Brexit, Trump, the Wall. No matter how tame … the peasants are reaching for their pitchforks! … shriek, shriek, shriek!

That’s their fear. People saying “no”. “No, we don’t want to play your game.” “No we don’t want to give your our stuff.” “No we don’t want you around.” Because that’s what their globalist ideology is–the ideology of the rapist: no one is allowed to say “no”.

The old saying is that “if you are not paying, then YOU are the product.”

I guess Mr. Weyl wouldn’t mind if he was deprived of the exclusive cartel enjoyment of his loved ones and his home by a roving band of rapist travellers from the third world.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/02/01/world/european-colonization-climate-change-trnd/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

OT: sheer blood libel against Europeans by CNN. Absolutely disgusting.

For comparison, read the scientific study cited in the article, which uses much more accurate and less inflammatory language.

We have freedom of association; what’s been taken away is the freedom to exclude. Without which the freedom to associate is a pretty flaccid right.

As Strauss said when paraphrasing Schmitt, every association of men is necessarily an exclusion of others. Take the latter away and you don’t really have the former anymore…

Pretty good analysis. I often think that there are so many tasty and filling fast foods that people would like that are not sold (in the United States), so that the potential for opening new fast food chains must be almost unlimited.

However, when you look at the successful fast food chains, they did not get to be where they are by offering great food, but by monopolizing the best locations, advertising the hell out of themselves, getting franchisees to bear the brunt of the work, obtaining financing deals for franchisees, using the same architectural plans over and over again, not paying workers properly, selling crap food at premium prices, and cheap drinks at about 1000% profit. (Even a cup of tap water costs the same as a soda in many places.)

It is nothing to do with offering great food. Success in selling fast food is all about finding a product that is incredibly cheap to produce, and then making a profit. If you can make two egg muffins out of one fluffed up egg, then that is good business. If you can make chicken nuggets out of unwanted chicken waste, then that is good business. If you can make a loaf of bread in which the main ingredients are air and carbon dioxide, then that is good business.

You can see the same thing in so many industries. Real consumer needs are not being met with durable quality products and consumers are manipulated into buying new goods though planned obsolescence. (For example why should one not be able to pop a new battery into an iPhone in a few seconds?)

As a consumer, every now and again I am delighted by what a corporation has to offer, but not very often.

Facebook obviously did great work to get where they are.

Like what?

We are also on the right side of certain moral truths that will perpetuate.

Such as what?

Ultimately, we have to perpetuate our culture and our values. We will win, even if in the long run, we won’t keep our national borders and traditional nation states.

Why do we have to perpetuate our culture and values? And how have you won if you lose your national borders?

Well, this is not a good analogy. In practice open borders amounts to poor or amoral colored foreigners trying to get upright, cooperative white men to work for them, as indirect slaves. That’s why they want to be here, so that they can enjoy the fruits of the labor of higher quality people.

Democrats want those foreigners here to get votes. They want those votes not so they can rule over a third-world rabble. They want to rule over the most advanced economy of the world, made that by the efforts of upright, cooperate white men, and a few Asian men, but mostly whites.

The whole situation is just people trying to horn in on the collective work of white men. The dead ones who built up Western nations, and the living ones who maintain it. Opening things up for competition is not a good analogy for this situation.

Yahoo was the first-mover in the search engine space

That seems like an odd assertion. Here is some history: http://www.thehistoryofseo.com/The-Industry/Short_History_of_Early_Search_Engines.aspx

Particularly on point:

Initially, Yahoo! used secondary search engine services to support its directory.
…
Ironically in 1996, AltaVista started exclusively providing search results for Yahoo! who would one day become AltaVista’s owner.

Facebook needs to be destroyed.

Why?

I don’t know what they did but whatever it was, it worked. Facebook was not the first social network – there was MySpace before them and Friendster before MySpace. Facebook is a monopoly only in retrospect. One clue is that Facebook was upscale and exclusive. At 1st it was only for Harvard students and then only for college students. MySpace was open to everyone and low rent – a lot of the participants had names like Tyquan and Shaniqua. No one wants to be in a social network with Tyquan and Shaniqua unless his name is Jamail.

Sure at some point if you are doing the right thing (whatever that is) your snowball starts to roll and grows in size exponentially and outgrows all the other snowballs (especially if the other snowballs have stopped rolling and are starting to melt), but you have to know how to get the snowball rolling. Nobody really knows what the secret recipe is – the old Hollywood maxim is “nobody know anything”.

There are no real monopolies on the internet – you could create 166book.com and everyone in the world could go there tomorrow just as easily as they go to Facebook today if Facebook loses the mandate of heaven, just the same way that they migrated from MySpace to Facebook. It’s just like the Indian restaurants in Mountain View, except worse. To open an Indian restaurant you need a certain amount of capital to buy restaurant equipment, etc. Zuckerberg just needed his laptop to destroy MySpace. Friendster went from a page rank of 40 to a rank of 800 in a short amount of time.

Captain Sailer gracefully harpooned this Great Weyl Defendant…all the way to his talmudic cortex.

I’d rather have one nation.

The treasonous ruling class rats in the GOP don’t give a damn about the historic American nation or the United States. The GOP ruling class is completely captured by donors such as Shelly Adelson and Paul Singer and the Koch Boys.

Shelly Adelson wants to continue to use the US military as muscle to fight wars on behalf of Israel in the Middle East and West Asia. That is why the US military is still in Afghanistan in West Asia and that is why the US military is still in other areas in the Middle East, beyond the usual naval bases and the like.

Shelly Adelson and the Koch Boys want mass legal immigration and illegal immigration to continue. That is why the GOP ruling class rats push mass legal immigration and illegal immigration.

WHY are Congressional GOP overwhelmingly "naysayers" on MidEast pullouts? ADD (Adelson Dollar Disorder)! Same with slow-walking immigration patriotism. And it's not new https://t.co/0NyeuSHPkJ https://t.co/wNwwIEmOxK

— VDARE (@vdare) February 1, 2019

However I never understand normal whites echoing the same sentiment. They are, like most naive whites, suicidal at best or masochistic at the worst.

While a few are self-loathing Good Whites willing to suffer for the betterment of the outgroup du jour, most are simply unfortunates whose most basic survival instincts have been socially engineered out of them.

Steve, the B-school prof who told you growing wheat was a bad business was overlooking what economists call “rent”. Not the rent you pay your landlord, but the benefit from owning more fertile land. The wholesale price of wheat, which is the same for everyone, is where the “marginal producer” (the farmer with the least fertile land) just barely hangs on. Farmers with better land do better, sometimes far better, than just hang on; their land produces “rent”.

(I’m saying “fertile” as shorthand for rain, erosion, roads and other factors beyond just the chemical properties of the soil.)

Maybe he was a marketing prof.

Dude, that’s pretty……homo.

More white terrorism

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/nyregion/hammer-attack-brooklyn-chinese-restaurant.html

Zuckerberg just needed his laptop to destroy MySpace. Friendster went from a page rank of 40 to a rank of 800 in a short amount of time.

I suppose so, but Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg were both Harvard dropouts. I suspect that the Harvard connection gave them a kind of credibility with venture capitalists and bankers that the average college dropout with equally good ideas for a business would not have.

Bill Gates was only 21 years old when Microsoft was first registered as a company, which is incredibly young, and Zuckerberg only 20 when he and a group of friends moved to California for the summer to start Facebook–and ended up staying.

Of course both Gates and Zuckerberg are incredibly bright and innovative, and so an undergraduate degree would be largely irrelevant to them as a qualification, but if you are going to be a college dropout, Harvard is where you want to drop out of.

I’d rather have our politicians compete for and cater to the voters of the USA than to a cartel of the one-tenth of one percenters.

Have a link for that?

Klein struck me as this guy everyone decided was some wunderkind early on and cannot admit that he’s just a purveyor of the latest Democratic conventional wisdom with nothing original to say, so he’s managed to attract financial support far in excess of his contribution to political and policy analysis.

When you study corporate strategy in MBA school, however, the profs tell you only idiots would want to be a wheat farmer. The point is to get cartel/monopoly power.

Do market researchers in Chicago spend much time with one another– e.g., hanging out at the Board of Trade?

I ask because this really fun book by one of them, Milind Lele, promotes this very strategy, though using mostly benign methods. He mentions his own Honda Odyssey van, which had a folding rear seat five years before anyone else– it takes a long time for the competition to retool, it seems. The faster the product, the slower the process.

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/99760/monopoly-rules-by-milind-lele/9780307238344/

A more academic (INSEAD) approach to this was The Blue Ocean Strategy. You avoid the red water, because that’s where the sharks are feeding.

Then there’s the first-mover advantage. Ries and Trout, and their subsequent co-authors, hammer on this on in their positioning cult. Pepsi will never catch up to Coke, nor Burger King to McDonald’s. But #2 is still a damned good position to be in, especially if you play up your difference. (“Have it your way.”)

There are notable exceptions to this, however. Hydrox lost out to imitator Oreo. Mobile let the Mardi Gras brand get away to New Orleans. And if you don’t move at all– if the folks in Rochester are blind to the gold mine they own in Palo Alto– rogue copertinesi could come in and rifle your innovations.

Monopoly, though, can trump one of Ries and Trout’s more important rules– stick to your last. They could only explain Microsoft’s successful “suiting” by invoking their monopolistic status. If the feds are pressing an antitrust case against you, you are probably in a “position” to break the rules anyway.

Translation: ‘I got mine, countries are for suckers.’ Alternately, ‘the peasants are revolting.’

Though ostentatiously Jewish, Wyl is a supporter of BDS and no friend of Israel. Jews and Israel have their traitors, too. Not sure why some assume that these shitheads with their parentheses shilling open borders have a different standard for Israel. Wyl is cagey about it, but he’s a one-stater.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-zionist-case-for-boycotting-israel/2015/10/23/ac4dab80-735c-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html?utm_term=.06aee75970de

I dunno, some folks on here might find Strange New Respect for the guy after reading this, but to me it confirms that many of the Israel obsessives are right there with people who want to destroy the West, too. Personally, I’d just like to get stuck in an elevator with Wyl. Just for a couple of minutes. Maybe it’s his leather choker.

There is a little poisonous snake pit of these scholars of ‘political economy’ with big plans for the rest of us. I’m pretty close to one of them ( or I used to be). He’s off at Yale conducting Adderall-fueled email chains working out how they are going to devise a blizzard of obscurant nonsense as cover for their essential goal, ‘radical social change,’ which is exactly what you think it is.

https://newrepublic.com/article/112366/ezra-klein-profile-wonkblogs-wise-boy-cannot-be-stopped

Starts out slow but by the end he comes off as something you’d scrape off of your shoe. Even the pictures of him make him look chronically, tragically lame. Imagine the takes they didn’t use!

And that’s a totally accurate take. The people speaking about his early success basically marvel at the sheer and unrelenting number of words he managed to vomit out. Of course it goes without saying that it was just him regurgitating undigested liberal shibboleths. Vox was started when NBC Universal gave them $200 million dollars. It’s not run as a business and the point of it is not to make money; there are no VC investors waiting to make returns on it like Buzzfeed or Huffpo. It’s paid programming.

Oh god, that leather necklace. It’s never a good idea and it’s especially bad on dudes past 30. What an absolute fairy.

For example why should one not be able to pop a new battery into an iPhone in a few seconds?

There are valid engineering reasons for having a non-swappable battery. Every product design involves compromises – you might want to emphasize reliability or thinness over ease of battery change.

There are plenty of phones with swappable batteries (although the trend is away from them) -consumers are free to choose those but millions prefer the iPhone despite the non-swappable battery so they must like the compromises that Apple chose better than those of other manufacturers. Apple has always emphasized ease of use for the non-techy owner over making a product that is appealing to tech nerds who like to get under the hood.

Personally I’m in favor of swapability, but in the phones that I’ve had with swappable batteries, by the time it’s time to swap the phone is probably obsolete anyway and often the replacement batteries that are still available are stale and almost as bad as your old battery, so battery swapability is just one factor in a phone and by far not the most important one. My current phone doesn’t have a pop out battery but it’s not the end of the world. Where’s there’s a will there’s a way so when it comes time to change the battery I probably will even if it involves spudgers and pentalobe screws – been there, done that. Unless they epoxy the whole thing together, every battery is swappable, some are just easier to get to than others.

If I told you that a Jew tweeted that cartels are wrong when they protect the American people — and he’s right, after all, a cartel is by definition oligarchic, so something protecting three hundred millions cannot be a cartel — I would expect my comment to not get through. This is IYI boneheadedness and self-defeating unawareness on the level of that Harvard law professor attaching the name “Children’s Crusade” to the Parkland Players. Was it too many characters for this pillar of the community to spit, “I hate you, I hate your entire class and everyone you’re related to, and want you to die”?
You know what’s funny is what this low-T Trotsky is calling a “cartel” is actually the appropriate and necessary duty of the government, and this guy is probably a big fan of government action.

With self-styled “Zionists” like this, who needs Hamas?

Yes, I’ve made the same point before and it falls on deaf ears to many here. They just can’t believe that these folks wish their nostrums on everyone, including their own people because to them it seems like these guys are peddling poison – surely they are just cynically trying to poison the goyim’s well – they would never drink from it themselves or prescribe it for their own people, because that would be insane. It’s easier to understand selfish and evil than it is to understand batshit crazy. But if you are a true believer, your universal snake oil is good for everyone, Jew and non-Jew alike. Drink up!

>Wyl supports BDS
Okay. Has it ever occured to him that Israel and especially its relationship to the US is much much much more of a “cartel-state”? No. I am very happy to be proven wrong, please show me where Wyl calls out Jew tribalism. He’s a fake post-Zionist propping up tbe leftist banner, hoping to give credibility to the idea that Jews are not One, and maybe angling to control or gatekeep critical organizations.

I am sure that there are senior researchers, in other countries just as qualified as E is, who will be willing to work for a lot less than E does. Maybe we should entice them to emigrate to the U.S.?

To echo Jack, a non-replaceable battery lets them make it thinner, and makes it much easier to make the phone body 1) waterproof and 2) entirely out of “premium” materials (aluminum, stainless steel, sapphire glass) instead of plastic.

Cartel is a fine word.

Some English people might call Australia a resource cartel. They do. I saw it done on the internet and it made immediate and perfect sense.

Australia is in an economic asset bubble caused by a bubble in China, which is part of the globalized asset bubbles.

Dug up stuff from Australia goes to China to make stuff for export or use in China’s attempt to create demand in China. It’s like the trade triangle of sorts with slaves and rum and sugar and other agricultural goods and manufactured goods from Europe to Africa to the European colonies in the New World.

Cartel or corporation or royal grant or domain of the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank — it doesn’t hurt to see the United States and the American Empire as the globalizers see it.

Who controls the cartel is the thing.

The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is using the democratic structure of the United States to engage in plutocratic plundering all over the globe and in the USA.

If the United States is part of the American Empire’s cartel then White Core American Patriots have to get control of it. Ruling class decapitation is the answer to the sovereignty-sapping troubles in the United States.

The answer to 1984 is 1066.

This is all stuff that Sun Tzu figured out in the 5th century BC in the Art of War. You have to get inside your enemy’s OODA loop.

This is how the Japanese went from have a zero market share in the US market to having a 40% share. They would significantly improve their cars every couple of years whereas the Ford Maverick of 1976 was still being built on the 1960 Ford Falcon platform. As long as the Maverick was competing with the 1976 Dodge Dart (which was on the same platform as the 1960 Dodge Dart) it was no problem, but the 1976 Toyota was vastly improved from their 1960 cars (and better than anything that the Big 3 were selling at the same price point).

Your product can start out below a competitor’s product in quality or desirability or affordability but if your product keeps getting better by x% a year and your competitor’s is improving at a slower rate, eventually you are going to catch up and then pass him – it’s only a matter of time. This is how the Koreans in turn snuck up on the Japanese.

I’d rather have a cartel for the benefit of 330 million people than a global tyranny for the benefit of 20 million people.

Claiming that America is some kind of “cartel” is like claiming that a guy with a house on the coast has a cartel on that portion of the coast. Weyl is basically saying that property is a form of cartel. Ergo no one should have property rights at all.

A nation – any nation – is a form of property. It is property owned by its citizens. It is not some Middle Eastern bazaar where everyone can come to sell their wares.

I think it is very good; if not a bit depressing if you are sensitive like me. Of course, I have been a fan of his work/thoughts for years. It’s fairly quick read with many highly condensed thoughts and analogies/lessons.

I don’t know who this Weyl guy is or even care to employ the brainpower necessary to understand his comment. Nor do I know if he is Semitic because lots of folk started doing the ((( ))) thing as an FU to the people who started it. I assume he is though because Steve blatantly chose a boring tweet from an unknown to headline this post and the only thing notable about that tweet is the triple parentheses.

I don’t know why Steve prefers to cultivate useless commentators like you rather than interesting commentators like Pinker but he really goes out of his way to do so.

Though ostentatiously Jewish, Wyl is a supporter of BDS and no friend of Israel. Jews and Israel have their traitors, too.

Don’t be fooled. There’s nothing treasonous about BDS. BDS just means opposition to “the occupation” of the West Bank. That’s been a mainstream Jewish Zionist position for decades.

Does Wyl oppose the existence of Israel as a “Jewish state”? That is the question.

They probably support these anti-nationalistic sentiments because they are financially benefiting from them. Few people are truly masochistic. About ten percent of whites have got richer from free trade, financial deregulation and relatively open borders. You also have to remember that many of those who live off the top ten percent will also share many of their values. Hence, a luxury car salesman or high end hairdresser may well have neoliberal values even though they don’t qualify as part of the economic elite in financial terms.

However, once you get out of the big FIRE cities that are benefiting from anti-nationalistic economics, most whites are either brooding populists or alt right lite types.

You are probably thinking of Pushkin, who was an octoroon.

How ’bout:

Mr. (((Weyl))) wants to obliterate the cartel of 300 million plus goyim, and replace it with a cartel of the twenty million or so Chosen People in the world. Thus the promise of their ancient Blood Pact with the Volcano Demon can be fulfilled: All other nations will be destroyed, and all the goyim will be the slaves of Zion.

Make it clear that mass immigration and ending nation states is being done against the will and interests of the existing citizens and in the interest of outsiders

This should be said over and over again. It has been hard to get American normies to understand this fact; the replacement – they’re already paranoid that they are being watched. It does not help that several EU countries have already passed Hate Speech Laws against their citizens who are skeptical (or who just say unhelpful things) about thousands of migrants pouring into their countries. Finland actually tried to pass a law that would encourage children to rat-on their xenophobic parents!

Year Zero, wherein we just start the same process again but with a blank slate – an utterly autistic proposal.

This idea, that you just wrote, is the reason why Ted K actually convinced himself he must send bombs to various CS professors and STEM leaders in order to “blow it all up, and start over.” After reading his Manifesto, it was startling to realize that the message of the Terminator movies is similar…Ted never went to the movies in the 80’s, but he would have been pleased. So, yah, I think that many people feel nervous today, if they are actually in the “in” group or could wind-up in the “out” group since they are dependent on makers and entrepreneurs as opposed to being just as despensible (eaters) as common workers with no unique skill – and, this point, should worry journalists like Weyl.

FB is actively discriminating against conservative view points! These days, there are a lot of truly unctuous posts on my wall to entice me to view Progressive viewpoints! And, hilariously, they try to lure me with typical hooks for what they think Uni-educated, white women would be drawn to. So many sites like Praeger, Hillsdale, Allen West, even Diamond & Silk have had their battles with FB. RT is completely blocked…because: Russia.

Louis Theroux is going to do a show on whether or not everybody’s getting raped at US universities.
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a26102392/louis-theroux-bbc-documentary-sexual-assault-universities/

My wife’s iPhone was done-for in two or three years, but mine bought the same day is well into its sixth year. The battery is starting going now. So I plan to swap the still-good battery from her broken unit.

You need the Apple-proprietary “pentalobe” to do this. But I got a cheap, possibly illegal, repair kit at a surplus store that contains among other things a pentalobe. (If it’s unauthorized, that might explain why it’s in the surplus shop in the first place.)

That is all nonsense.

The Japanese got a toe-hold in the American market when oil skyrocketed due to getting off the gold standard. The Japs were making fuel-efficient cars for their own market because gas was expensive. The American own-goal under Nixon is was opened the US market for them.

Equally so, Japanese car companies are backed by the government. They have nothing to worry about if a car model fails. They have an infinite number of chances to experiment on building a good car (or just reverse engineering existing cars.) Same with the Koreans.

If you think running a car company is only about making cars, and not managing risk, then you know nothing about business.

Claiming that America is some kind of “cartel” is like claiming that a guy with a house on the coast has a cartel on that portion of the coast.

Haven’t you heard of a place called Malibu?

>>The restaurant business does seem particularly brutal, interesting to see the difference in survival rates between Ramsay’s Kitchen Nightmares compare Hotel Hell. Hotels have high startup costs as their moat.<<

To survive in the mom 'n pop, local restaurant business one must not report income. It is as simple as that. If one avoids paying taxes, stuff enough cash away, one can do alright.

I disagree. Just from observation, most 2nd generation immigrants to Canada seem somewhat duller than their parents. The regression might not be as pronounced as one would expect, but I doubt that the IQ is going to stay high unless they breed with whites.

Tolstoy is unimaginably famous in Russia. He’s like their Twain and Dickens and Shakespeare plus a few more wrapped up in one. The only book in the West that gets printed in the numbers that Tolstoy’s works were printed in in Russia is the Bible. I think this line is even more recognizable to Russians than it is in the West.

Wyl is a supporter of BDS and no friend of Israel. Jews and Israel have their traitors, too

Citizen of USA … doesn’t support Israel … traitor.

That’s not how treason works.

With self-styled “Zionists” like this, who needs Hamas?

The problem is, Israel discriminates against Gentiles.

Yes, I’ve made the same point before and it falls on deaf ears to many here. They just can’t believe that these folks wish their nostrums on everyone, including their own people because to them it seems like these guys are peddling poison – surely they are just cynically trying to poison the goyim’s well – they would never drink from it themselves or prescribe it for their own people, because that would be insane.

There’s no evidence this guy thinks Israel should cease to exist. Opposition to the Jewish colonization of the West Bank is not the same thing as opposition to the existence of Israel.

After 6 years, that battery is probably weak even if it hasn’t been used for the last 3 years. Maybe not as bad as yours, but still weak – they deteriorate with time.

For a whole $5, they will sell you a kit on ebay that has the battery in it plus all the tools needed to take it apart and the sticky tape too. It even gets mailed from the US so you don’t have to wait a month.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-1560mAh-Internal-Battery-Replacement-for-iPhone-5S-5C-Adhesive-Tools/113237303590?hash=item1a5d782126:g:3eEAAOSwJK9bkxOA:rk:31:pf:0&LH_BIN=1

Make sure you order the one for your exact model.

If you are going to do all the work of tearing the phone apart you might as well put a fresh battery in it.

“Three rounds a minute, in any weather.”
That’s how.
“Now you and I know you can fire three rounds a minute.
But can you stand?”

Also because of John Harrison the carpenter, and his aspergically-tweaked travel clocks.

What was depressing about it?

SJWism: Can’t deal with mass migration.
Libertarianism: Can’t deal with mass migration or global warming.

Libertarianism is arguably the more destructive political influence. It should also be noted that it is an ideology that in it’s pure form that can’t even admit the basic chemistry and physics of global warming is confined to the US. But it’s influence in ‘marketisation’ can be seen everywhere, with elites decrying anyone who opposes their home being made into a giant industrial estate.

It’s the ideological version of the Onion’s autistic reporter missing the point.

Steve, this woman wins the Internet!

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/lesbian-feminist-slams-transgender-superhero-as-a-symbol-of-patriarchy/

And it is interesting that ONLY men can be such women and More Of A Woman than actual women according to some in the trans community. If only men can be women—what does one say about XX human beings?

Only men can be real women!

O no the poor things! If they really, really tried, they could become as sybaritically wealthy as the 54 million people in England, at 407 drunks per sq. km.
Israel only has 387 per square thingy, and there’s only 8 and a half million of the poor ham-starved darlings. Pathetic. Almost Scotland-tier insignificance. Or maybe Austria.

The man has issues. Can’t let go of that high school/adolescent trauma, where he was constantly told to “Shut the F**ck up.”, by the cool kids.

Ok, so @VitalikButerin does endorse 🙂 He definitely helped shape the message. I feel this piece was a major breakthrough in my own understanding of why I have moved away from statism. I was beat up at school and never fit in until I was able to help form new community. https://t.co/QhSYVzcy3k

— ⿻(((E. Glen Weyl/衛谷倫))) 🇺🇸/🇩🇪/🇹🇼 🖖 (@glenweyl) January 28, 2019

OT – It seems the South Park boys were onto something:

PS, it’s not “illegal” to repair your own phone or to make tools to open it. The tools were at a surplus store because by now most iphone 5’s are retired and the kits were probably over-produced relative to the remaining demand.

It’s also a good idea to replace the retarded security screws with regular #00 Philips screws in case you ever have to work on it again, especially since the removal process is probably either going to mess up the heads of your pentalobes or of the 5 cent screwdriver which is made of untempered Chinesium ( a metal with a hardness that is exceeded only by cheddar cheese) or both.

In soppy old Yoorp we tend to get career cro0ks, war criminals and jailbreakers claiming asylum, due to “state persecution” in their Shithole Of Origin. Which is entirely true (for once). And also entirely justified.

It’s a subsidy. If you subsidize poor people, you get more of them.

Could you explain how this works in practice with people?

When you feed Ethiopians, they live to adulthood and have babies, and the population explodes. This is simple stuff.

Poor people are poor because they have more children than they can provide for. If you subsidize them, you get fewer deaths and more births. Do I really have to explain this?

A religious Catholic writer whose name I forget wrote in the last decade or so that art based in faith, seeking the “one, true, good, and beautiful”, has resulted in a highly diverse and creative array of styles, but art based in sin is always stuck in the same handful of ruts.

Poor people are poor because they have more children than they can provide for.

There are plenty of poor people with no children at all. So there must be other paths to poverty as well.

America is up for grabs? Yes, I think so, but the only real, sustainable challenge comes from Mexicans who work well together, who work hard, save their money, buy businesses, etc. etc. If we don’t watch out, they will become core Americans. They will become who we are.

Keywords: Will. Become.

The remainder of the immigrant wave serves only to displace whites and ruin the social system we had in place for centuries.

Eric Glen Weyl =

New clergy lie.

Well, ye cringe.

When you feed Ethiopians, they live to adulthood and have babies, and the population explodes. This is simple stuff.

A better answer is that when you subsidize poor people, many people who are NOT currently poor but right on the margin of being poor, find it easier to be poor because of the subsidies. The system has incentivized them to stop working or work less hard than they once did.

However I never understand normal whites echoing the same sentiment. They are, like most naive whites, suicidal at best or masochistic at the worst.

No, it’s the four I’s: indoctrination, incentivization, intimidation, imitation.

Svigor wrote:

They’ve been regulating telcos for generations. Had any problem discussing whatever you like over a phone line, lately?

There is, I think, a technical difference: The phone companies cannot possibly monitor all conversations and terminate the “bad” ones: the main reason is that phone conversations are evanescent — they disappear immediately.

Facebook posts stay up there: this gives other users a chance to complain, allows Facebook to read the posts and decide what to do, etc.

I doubt any of us wants a law that forces Facebook to allow an ongoing exchange to plan a multiple murder! On the other hand, the telcos cannot reasonably prevent such a conversation because the conversations are evanescent.

Any reasonable regulation of social media is therefore going to involve use of bureaucratic discretion. And, I don’t think anyone here will like how that discretion is used.

But right now we suffer the bureaucratic discretion of an unaccountable corporation.

I would agree with you if Leo Tolstoy were a sociologist instead of a novelist. Rather what I think Tolstoy is getting at is that happy families are alike in a sort of virtuous spiritual union, but in unhappy families each individual is driven back to his or her own devices and isolation.

Good paragraph Almost.

There are lots of different individual “attractions” and “operating procedures”, but boiled down some sort of male-female complementarity is at the heart of a happy family, coupled with a shared committment to making the project work for the children.

Do you honestly think he has an affective attachment to anything outside of his social circle? This is his wife:

http://alishaholland.com/about/

They’re fancy people who are steeped in world full of fancy people. Others are just pairs of hands, whether they’re repairing HVAC systems in Princeton or whether they’re repairing them in Tel Aviv.

While Jack is right about a new battery being very cheap and much better, at 6 years old doing a battery replacement is sort of pound foolish. Lots of hassle and maybe you’ll get another year out of it.

Even if you are pretty good with electro-tinkering, chance of you breaking the phone is at least a third.

An external battery will just be $10. I carried one around for 6 months when I had a phone with a weak battery, you get used to it.

But of course. A man maximally celebrated in his own time, whose books and lectures sold out, and whose ideas were no threat to anything and never went anywhere.

Agree.

Should have been a cartel for the benefit of 200 million, amirite? Badum-tishh

The natural enemy of a country’s rich people is its poor people. But countries are natural enemies too, and poor people are needed to fight wars. International cooperation is a way for the rich to wage total class war in their own country.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/31/us/public-defender-case-loads.html
ctrl-F immigr……((crickets))

(((Who))), )))Whom(((?

Ye gods, that might be your best one yet. The first one, anyway. Second one is pretty good but damn.

More lyingpress layoffs — post-Gavin Vice decimated!
Code learning intensifies!

Vice CEO Nancy Dubuc just sent a memo to staff announcing a reorg and companywide layoffs affecting 10% of the staff https://t.co/uR6o9qMQKe

— Natalie Jarvey (@natjarv) February 1, 2019

In the Covingtonian universe, “stukach” , meaning fink, rat, or nark,
is one of the “killing words” the use of which is an offense leading to an acceptable duel to the death if the parties cannot be reconciled. Along with “whigger” and “attorney”.

“[Glen Weyl is]a political economist and social technologist seeking to harness computers and markets to create a radically equal and cooperative society.”

Any society where theft is legal (as Weyl proposes) is going to have a cooperation level of approximately zero.

There is, I think, a technical difference: The phone companies cannot possibly monitor all conversations and terminate the “bad” ones . . . .

But they could terminate the bad users, as that one evil transsexual freak is trying to force Linux to do.

Well, “the ambulant African vendors of counterfeit products” did “decide to spread their blankets down on,” Fifth Avenue, Madison Avenue, Lexington Avenue, Manhattan, and “the proponents of freedom of commerce” (fashion house IP–trademarks) did “hastily recall the benefits of regulation” by going to court and getting the NYPD to enforce their property rights, along with a host of long ignored street vendor licensing regulations.

This was about 15+ years ago, IIRC. Now street vendors sell cheap merchandise, and what qualifies as knock-offs, but not counterfeit products.

Also, there are technically demanding and socially useful jobs in computers that are kind of hard to sloganize, there are smart guys who never make a killer app or one specific app, but this sentence leads me to believe that this guy knows nothing about computers. This sounds like what a corporate diversity officer would say.

There are plenty of poor people with no children at all. So there must be other paths to poverty as well.

In the context of Ezra Klein’s comment, “poor people” means the permanent poor, the people who have too many children, the Third-World poor. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a parent or child — the cause of the poverty is the same. Poor people with no children are still poor because “they” (poor people in poor countries) have more children than they can provide for.

Tolstoy had it right. Happy families are all the same in that they do not have any of the collection of maladies that inflict unhappy families. It’s like, for a job task, there is an infinite number of ways to screw it up while only one way to do it right.

The fact that one happy family bonds over singing and storytelling while another does outdoor activities is irrelevant. The emotional/relational state that is the end result is what matters, the means are inconsequential.

Other than that, how do you really feel…

Social media is a disease that needs a remedy. (Vaccine, antidote, treatment, something…)

But is it illegal?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/42953/us-state-dept-charges-19-people-running-chinese-paul-bois

Years ago General Motors talked the state of Ohio into building a new interchange near its local assembly plant, citing “competitiveness” reasons. The interchange was built, GM got its crony capitalist bailout, but the plant will be shuttered next month.

LOL! Reminds me of the Pittsburgh airport and the Sultan of Brunei price tag (about $1 billion) that the local politicos and the Allegheny Airport Authority stuck to taxpayers for that terminal to be built in the 90’s. The busy Pittsburgh hub for the airline formerly known as Allegheny (then to US Air then to US Airways) never materialized.

Now 20 years later they want to downsize and demolish, oh wait, “reconfigure” the airport. How much? Another $1.1 billion. This is not a joke…

https://www.post-gazette.com/business/development/2017/09/12/Pittsburgh-International-Airport-Allegheny-County-Authority-board-vote-plan-new-landside-terminal/stories/201709120131

Dad, you promised to keep that on the down low.

I neither feel the need to regulate Facebook as a monopoly nor nip it in the bud. You can shun social media while taking no stance on its regulation.

The problem is we have so many damn immigrants right now (peak immigration!) that the zeitgeist compels an argument that the US is here to uplift the rest of the world’s people, even to the detriment of a large number of US citizens.

American Exceptionalism (don’t love the term) has been turned into a burden. To wit, America must uplift all people with its policies. Immigration included. This is the premise of the left-leaning globalists (the Ezra Kleins), and it is plainly suicidal to a county.

Mr Weyl has company. Are these people clueless or brazen?
https://postimg.cc/Xpf1YNTP

Yes indeed! And I agree with you, but have a tiny semantic quibble with your 1st sentence – David Brooks is only a “Conservative” to those who regurgitate NYT’s agitprop.

BTW, I wonder if Kamala’s pantsuits have a crease in them? You know, in the sort of the way that got Brooks hyperventilating and turned on by Obama’s “crease in the pants.”

Isn’t Unz social media?

Open borders supporters in Malibu (like rob reiner) are perfectly fine with their cartel on Malibu beachfront property and even use environmental restrictions to keep poor people out. (their nannies, gardeners, maids etc. Have long commutes from less desirable places) the hypocrisy and the double standard of these people is what infuriates me the most about them.

Most S Americans and Mexicans are totally disengaged from politics and just live their lives. When things get bad enough they flee to the US.

kamala, in Finnish, means: terrible, horrible, awful, etc.

Do I really have to explain this?

Blimey. No.
Our sled dogs can’t live on broccoli alone.
We’ll always need dimmer, slower primates as husky-chow.

Oh look. E. Glen Weyl is a “researcher” at Microsoft:

“Research on how to expand the scope of the market beyond the traditional limits of property, democracy and borders.”

How to expand the scope of the market beyond the traditional limits of property, democracy, and borders?

Well, obviously…………….by theft, tyranny, and conquest.

Anyone running “Learn To Code” classes is going to make a killing!

I think most people have that initial reaction. I have read that he means every happy familly needs to have so many things go right: sexual compatibility, monetary, religious and social etc. Not that you need the same sex drive or interest in each other, or same religion, but that the differences don’t bother you. Yes, many times similar things bedevil marriages, but the point is if in any one area there’s a conflict it can ruin the project. It’s either a dealbreaker or not. In every happy family, there’s no dealbreaker. I think the fact the line is counter-intuitive is why it resonates.

Followed your link to her self laudatory bio. What a gal–at least in her own eyes and those of the “fancy people” with whom she associates. Too bad she, like 99% of all the other women out there, doesn’t know diddlely about how stuff gets made and who makes it–which is our nation’s biggest problem. Women just don’t know squat about the world of machines and manufacturing. Aside from their natural fiefdoms: social services, elementary ed and the health-care professions, women should have no voice.

Do you honestly think he has an affective attachment to anything outside of his social circle?

I have not noticed that you do. All you even present is smug, preening pedantry.

Weyl is a self-proclaimed zionist:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-zionist-case-for-boycotting-israel/2015/10/23/ac4dab80-735c-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html?utm_term=.f63e0c2cf7e2

By “coincidence”, the quoted paragraph is also a good description of the post-national nation: a country after the globalists are through with it.

Every person in the [former nation] felt that there was no sense in their living together, and that the stray people brought together by chance in any inn had more in common with one another than they, the members of the [former nation] of [insert name of former first world country here].

Mr Weyl has company. Are these people clueless or brazen?

All of a sudden the Senate, which for years was content to let the Executive pursue military involvement as he saw fit, now wants to reassert its authority – when the matter at hand is actually drawing down US forces abroad. It’s clear the Senate doesn’t work for us.

There is, I think, a technical difference: The phone companies cannot possibly monitor all conversations and terminate the “bad” ones: the main reason is that phone conversations are evanescent — they disappear immediately.

Immaterial (haha), since they’re forbidden by law from fucking with their customers. They’re mandated to provide service, and that’s what they do.

I doubt any of us wants a law that forces Facebook to allow an ongoing exchange to plan a multiple murder! On the other hand, the telcos cannot reasonably prevent such a conversation because the conversations are evanescent.

On the contrary, I don’t want Facebook to be allowed to destroy evidence. They should be forced to leave it up and notify the police, if they think a crime has been committed. Same goes for users, who should inform the police if they have a beef.

Any reasonable regulation of social media is therefore going to involve use of bureaucratic discretion. And, I don’t think anyone here will like how that discretion is used.

I’m fine with prosecutorial discretion being the standard.

Kinda tired of libertardians and their basic bitch talking points that amount to toadying to our corporate overlords and eviscerating the spirit and intent of the Bill of Rights.

kamala, in Finnish, means: terrible, horrible, awful, etc.

Sounds like good meme fodder.

Perhaps the motto of the U.S. should be changed to: E pluribus nihil

Alternative media, dear. Nowadays social media means major platforms with heavy establishmentarian leanings.

Funny thing about David Brooks: I keep being told he is a “conservative” or a “Republican”. Yet cycle after cycle, he keeps endorsing the left wing Democrat.

Come to think of it, I’ve never heard him say a single conservative thing in his life. Yet he plays the “conservative” pundit on TV.

Then again, he’s not actually American. He’s just a Canadian interloper who plies his schtick in the US media.

But surely he made a family here and assimilated?

Well, his son did courageously volunteer to serve in the military in a time of active conflict. Surely that bespeaks the patriotism instilled by the father?

It’s true, his son did serve in the military …

… the Israeli military.

I mean, it’s almost like the truth is the opposite of whatever these people say.

This is how the Japanese went from have a zero market share in the US market to having a 40% share. They would significantly improve their cars every couple of years whereas the Ford Maverick of 1976 was still being built on the 1960 Ford Falcon platform. As long as the Maverick was competing with the 1976 Dodge Dart (which was on the same platform as the 1960 Dodge Dart) it was no problem, but the 1976 Toyota was vastly improved from their 1960 cars (and better than anything that the Big 3 were selling at the same price point).

The ’76 Dart was not bad because of its platform: indeed it was a good one. It was bad because Mopar by then had made cheesy plastic interior appointments, poor to nonexistent rustproofing, cheap paint, an alternator and AC compressor that were woefully out of date, hinky wiring and cost cutting by putting in substandard sized radiators and rear ends in the lesser equipped models. The basic engineering-G/RG (/6), LA or B/RB engines, TorqueFlite trans, most of the rear ends besides the lightest crummy ones-were solid. The heavier Mopar rear ends were almost as good or as good as the 9″ Ford, the best in the industry, the electronic ignition was best in the industry then, if you got the cop/taxi package brakes and suspension were good.

Mopar engineering had waned a little from the glory days of Weertman, Huebner and the others, but not that much. They could still build a great car, but they chose not to. In fairness, the unions were at their height of irresponsibility and the management at the depths of having no balls, perhaps a consequence of the Seventies being the Sixties for regular people.

Ford could also build a good car even in the malaise era: the Town Cars of the period were very durable and reliable, if total fuel sluts. (Today, swapping in a fuel injected 351 and AOD will make a malaise era cruiser into a half decent daily if you’re so inclined. )

Japanese cars of the decade are iconic in certain quarters today too, but are more expensive to restore. I saw a RX-2 recently that had been restored: they guy had to find three junkers to get enough rust free sheet metal, and the engine was actually a first gen RX-7, but it was a very pretty car I would have liked to have. Nissan Fairladys, known as Datsun 240Zs are popular too, though many have something else under the hood.

But the Japanese coopetition model,(impossible in the US because antitrust) , government support of industry , and a willingness to sell at or below true cost to build Market Share meant that the US carmakers were at a distinct disadvantage: nevertheless, in retrospect, they made a lot of bad decisions. Ford’s fuel tank issues on the Pinto, GM’s building the Vega as a deliberate attempt at absolute rock bottom build cost (again, the basic idea was good: decent rustproofing, an engine with steel bores and a little better trans and rear end would have made Vega not only good, but superb) and Ford’s constant inability to make stuff interchange are all obvious buzzkills.

Any one who really wants open borders should be appealing to the UN, the “global community”: “end borders now!” etc. After all, all countries have borders. If borders offend thee, have them all plucked out.

But Weyl and his fellow “open borderists” aren’t troubled by most borders. They really just want at most a few countries’ borders demolished, while the rest remain. Weyl is specifically bothered by only one country of “330 million” souls.

He’s not anti-borders. He’s anti-America.

Do you honestly think he has an affective attachment to anything outside of his social circle?

Yes. That’s what the ((())) mean, old out of touch guy.

This.

He’s anti-America.

Only insofar as he’s anti-)))white(((.

What’s really surreal is when (((NPR))) empanels him with EJ Dionne, so you’ve got a leftist goy doing the best impression of a Brooklyn Jew humanly possible, and a leftist Canadian Jew pretending to be a right wing American goy. And usually a NPR Jew directing the conversation, to boot.

And this is Brooks’ niche, make no mistake: he’s the phony )))conservative((( that leftists outlets invite onto their shows to either take a dive vs. leftists, or attack “rogue” (i.e., real) conservatives, so they can pretend balance. Which NPR, for one, barely even bothers to do. Usually it’s just a )))NPR Employee((( interviewing a leftist.

No surprise, either, that one of his heroes is Henry George. Make of that what you will.

If Weyl is dropping references to Henry George and speaking about “cartels,” it more than likely indicates that he’s been steeping himself in high-concept libertarianism of the Hans Hermann Hoppe variety.

When you feed Ethiopians, they live to adulthood and have babies, and the population explodes. This is simple stuff.

What is not self evident to me is the link between “immigration” and “the population explodes” in Ethiopia.

Is Brooks really from Canada? Frum is. Krauthammer was. Weird.

Decades ago this was discussed by Marxist economists Paul Baran (of Stanford University) and Paul Sweezy (of Monthly Review magazine) in their book Monopoly Capital).

These sorts of (disingenuous) arguments boil down to 1) an appeal to free market principles, 2) an appeal to fairness and global equality, and 3) an appeal to pride (the suggestion that Americans are “scared” of competition).

1) Economic purity. Who cares?

2) Fairness/Equality. Since this is a moral position, people that are swayed by this aren’t going to want to hear a lot of hard-headed factual counterarguments. It’s a strategic mistake in my opinion to get too focused on facts and cede the moral ground to the left. One good strategy is to point out that the corporatists pushing this stuff are doing it for their own interests. Then a positive moral argument requires you to argue directly that nationalism is morally superior to globalism.

3) Pride. “What, are you afraid of a little competition?” Only a sucker would fall for this.
“Competition” in the context of globalization is nothing more than lower living standards. Corporations want to pay desperate immigrants to do work at wages below what Americans are willing to tolerate. And they want to move their capital to someplace cheap with no regulations to cut costs BUT they also want the benefit of mass market that is the American middle class. That mass market has been eroding and is now being propped up with debt. The whole thing is a racket.

I doubt any of us wants a law that forces Facebook to allow an ongoing exchange to plan a multiple murder!

What would happen if we did have such a law? Think about this for a second.

Wait! There were cops driving ’76 Darts?

government support of industry

Hardly universal. Soichiro Honda was told by the government to stay out of the car business. He didn’t listen.

It’s no coincidence that Honda was the first to build plants in the US, for motorcycles in the ’60s and autos in the early ’80s, in the planning stages before Reagan’s election. Which they probably smelled coming.

Ok, will answer: It is throughout the book (depressing stuff) but the last chapter/conclusion is the most obvious to hyper-sensitive people (yes, it is a thing).

The last chapter deals with Singularity and Kurzweil being the most well-known for tracing Moore’s law to reach optimum AI. Yet, in the long run, Thiel believes (as I have always) that it all comes down to being an individual and seeking your own view: Think for Yourself.

The forces of Democrats/Progressives is for community, diversity, multi-culturalism, socialism, communism, group-think, gulags…next; re-education camps…
Thiel is basically saying: you are on your own and make the best decisions for yourself because everything else is working against you.

Wait! There were cops driving ’76 Darts?

The cops in Aspen were driving ’76 Saabs. That may be the only thing I like about Aspen.

Weyl is a self-proclaimed zionist:

And we have Zionist Jews on this board straight up lying to our faces that Weyl wants to destroy Israel just like he is trying to destroy the European nations. Can’t make this stuff up.

American car company’s idea of managing risk was to invest the minimum in anything except marketing and styling.

We know the US government would never bail out its own auto industry, right?

Brace yourself. You’re gonna hear a lot of it.

The drive-train of Darts were excellent. My father cried when American Car Manufacturers sold their soul to East Asia, along with the entire steel industry of the USA North. When he was still alive, he said, Rolls Royce will be the last. And, that, was even more depressing; he was gone before that death toll, however.

On a hot note: I bought an outrageously beautiful car that is the best of USA & Europe (it is Italian)! After almost 3 decades of being a mom-car-driver, I bought my first new car, evah! I am naming her Freija; b’cause: it’s blonde.

We might need a Northern Border Wall too…

Funny thing about David Brooks: I keep being told he is a “conservative” or a “Republican”. Yet cycle after cycle, he keeps endorsing the left wing Democrat.

But another funny thing about David Brooks is that he is almost always right. True, he is often so early in his calls that he falls victim to the old stock trader’s maxim that “early is the same as wrong,” but time after time he ends up being proven right in the end.

This is something I’ve discovered about David Brooks after following his career for the last 15 years. Conservatives love to hate the guy, but they ignore him at their own peril. Perhaps his outsider’s perspective gives him an uncanny insight into things that others are missing.

Yes. So the “free market” does not exist. Or it is a lie. Take your pick.

As I have been at pains to point out. And any PhD in Business from the Chicago School will tell you. If they are being honest. Which they seldom are.

Now this little itemized list is a lie, too.

What works, what makes capitalism, corporatism, the “free market,” whatever you want to call it, work, is the sausage trick.

I told ya once, I’ll tell ya again.

Buy a sausage company with a great reputation for making great sausages. Add a little more sawdust to the sausages every month. Pocket the rake-off and sell the company right before customers catch on.

The only class that matters at Harvard Business School teaches this trick. It is the only trick, the only class, that matters.

Where is the sausage trick on your list?

Thank you.

More population competing for the same amount of resources — in Ethiopea — increases pressure to emigrate.

Generally Mopar cop cars were not A-bodies but B-bodies and up, but:

Seattle ran a full fleet of A38 Dart police cars, and seemed happy with them. Seattle had previously used B-bodies (the last ones were the 1973 Satellite) for police duties, while most other municipal cars were slant six Darts. In 1973, they obtained what I believe was an experimental police-package Dart for evaluation, their 1974-76 squads were all Darts. (Seattle city streets are hilly and often curvy, so handling was more important than top speed).

The freeways were the province of the Washington State Patrol, which mainly used 440 C-bodies at the time. SPD switched to 9C1 Malibus in 1980, went back to MoPar for 1982 Diplomats, switched to the Fairmont-based LTD LX in 1983, and then used Gran Furies through their end in 1989.

Everything you wanted to know about Mopar cop cars:
https://www.allpar.com/squads/history.html

“Isn’t that precisely the situation of English capitalism, perhaps especially in its glory days of Victorianism?”

I don’t know what the Gini Index trend was in Victorian Britain (if it is even knowable), but there certainly was a substantial middle class then. Indeed, much of what we call “Victorianism” was the social morays of this middle class.

However things were in Victorian times, there is almost always a general tendency towards inequality during times of peace and stability, and—coming on heels of victory in the immense Napoleonic Wars, Victorian Britain was a time of relative peace and stability.

So we should welcome President Kamala?

:D…:{.
I so wish I do not worry,but I have 3 beautiful adult, young adult sons that are so perfect…they really are! I say prayers every night for their safety.

And, on this our fun forum, all you mean guys, you know who you are, can call me a dumb-ass, drunken chick, etc. all you want, but you will never break me. :D…and I will cut your throat when you closed your eyes for a moment! hahaaaa

here you go:
https://youtu.be/ WP5aDcu9_g0

Anonymous[166] wrote to me:

[Dave] I doubt any of us wants a law that forces Facebook to allow an ongoing exchange to plan a multiple murder!

[Anon]What would happen if we did have such a law? Think about this for a second.

I assume that your point is that competent murderers do not plan their crimes in public on Facebook.

Still. it seems reasonable to allow Facebook to shut down such threads.

The long-term solution is competition: the dominance of Facebook is a fad. It won’t last forever — unless the government so regulates the industry as to crush any up-and-comers that challenge Facebook (it’s happened many times before: the economists even have a technical term — “regulatory capture”).

ID wrote:

But another funny thing about David Brooks is that he is almost always right. True, he is often so early in his calls that he falls victim to the old stock trader’s maxim that “early is the same as wrong,” but time after time he ends up being proven right in the end.

Hasn’t Brooks generally been an “Invade-the-world” neocon? Hasn’t worked out too well.

Brooks is smart and articulate and can sometimes see coming social trends. But, frankly, Sailer seems better at that than Brooks (indeed, I recall Brooks often seeming to follow Sailer).

I hate Youtube. Youtube sucks. Abandon YT

So we should welcome President Kamala?

No. I don’t think she’s electable on the national stage and neither did Brooks predict she would win anything. He only called her a tough progressive.

One sure way for the Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory would be to nominate Kamala or Cory. If they want to win, they’ll go with Biden.

could not get an amazing tune to you..bc Youtube is Facist org. Youtube sucks and kids I know want to start a new streaming music vid org.

sheesh, FB is already “murdering people”