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Vanderbilt was 0-7 going into today’s college football game against Missouri, and both their kickers were quarantined, so they did the publicity stunt of dressing the school’s women’s soccer team goalie as their placekicker. This was hyped as the first time ever a woman had played in big time college football.
Here is her only action all day in the 0-41 loss: a kickoff that merely got to the 35 yard line. (The standard for college football kickers is to be able to fly the ball at least to the goal line, an additional 35 yards, with considerable height to allow the defenders time to run down field.)
My guess is that if Vanderbilt had held an open audition, they would have found over 100 male undergrads who can kick off deeper than the best woman kicker on campus. In their defense, lots of people had gone home over Thanksgiving, so they probably wouldn’t have gotten a big turnout. But every single fraternity would have a half dozen members who can kick further, plus every single guy on Vanderbilt’s men’s soccer team.
Oh, wait …
Incredible that a women's soccer player was called up to the football team for kicking duties.
All it took was guts, determination, and federal legislation to destroy men's sports teams in favor of women's sports teams. https://t.co/MC2Sj7zDHy pic.twitter.com/WvfX9LTuGC
— J. Reuben Clark (@JReubenCIark) November 28, 2020
Even so, colleges are full of guys who were pretty good players in high school on football or soccer teams but don’t pursue official sports in college.
For example, from CBS News in 2015, the story of an open tryout to find a backup placekicker at the U. of Florida:
Florida names dental student backup kicker after open tryouts
21-year-old Neil MacInnes is ‘a senior studying to be a dental ceramist’ at the University of Florida. He’s now also the Gators’ backup placekicker.
By Jerry Hinnen
Oct 30, 2015 at 3:22 pm ETRemember 11 days ago, when Florida held open tryouts among the student body for a backup placekicker? The Gators have their man — and he’s every bit the everyman you’d have expected from that kind of tryout.
Florida unveiled 21-year-old Neil MacInnes with a profile at the official Gators’ site Friday, describing him as “a senior studying to be a dental ceramist” at the university … until he also became the No. 11 team in the country’s No. 2 placekicker. MacInnes has traveled with the team to Jacksonville for this Saturday’s showdown with arch-rivals Georgia (3:30 p.m. ET, CBS).
“It’s pretty much a dream come true,” MacInnes said. “I wanted to kick in high school and obviously being part of this organization, and Gator Nation, is kind of cool.”
MacInnes was one of 216 students to try out following Florida’s backup kicker Jorge Powell suffering a season-ending leg injury vs. LSU. MacInnes kicked for Tampa’s Chamberlain High School during his junior and senior seasons, having already starred for the school’s track and soccer teams. He appeared in a 2011 area all-star game at Tampa’s Raymond James Stadium, hitting both a 48 and 43-yarder — his most recent kicks in actual competition.
MacInnes, a 6-4 and 225 pound high school valedictorian, attempted 3 points after touchdown in his college career, missing the first and making the next two.
In the National Hockey League, the hometeam designates somebody, such as the Zamboni machine driver, who can suit up to play goalie in case both goalies on the home or visiting team get hurt.
Carolina Hurricanes’ emergency backup goalie beats Toronto Maple Leafs
Dave Ayres is a 42-year-old Zamboni driver and kidney-transplant recipient. He gets his first NHL win after Carolina’s two goalies leave the game hurt.
He was the oldest rookie to make his debut in a North American major league game since Satchel Paige in 1948.
Is that what all the fuss was all about? I saw bits here and there and assumed she’s a new regular team member. On the other hand, she’s White, unusual for a football player.
This was a kick against the patriarchy so it counts more.
Yeah, I watched some videos of her kicking and not even being knowledgeable about kicking it was evident she lacked she lacked the power and technique of a good kicker.
This is what a top-notch field goal kicker looks like (Harrison Butker of the Kansas City Chiefs):
Never mentioned is that George Blanda booted his last field goal at age 48.
Thanks for the Butker video.
They could have gone to the middle school and found a boy with a better leg. This is why it’s stupid to humiliate girls by having them compete with men.
For example, basketball could easily be played with a rule that each team has to play female players for half of all minutes (or maybe they have to have, say, 2 female players in the game at all times).
As in tennis, everyone would know the women aren't the best athletes on the court. But the playing field is even as between the teams. And working the female players into the game plan most effectively would simply be part of the strategy.
It might be an interesting twist for the game. At any rate, it would be better than canceling the whole program because it's too expensive to maintain separate teams under Title IX.Replies: @Anon7
The narcissism and rudeness of women who demand to given roles they are ill-suited for needs to be explored.
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?
Confederate Conscription Woes:
"The law prescribed, with some exceptions, that all white Southern males aged 18 to 35 were now subject to conscription for three years’ service. One-year men in the Army had their enlistments extended for an additional two years."
Civil War Conscription Laws:
"In addition, the law made all white males between the ages of 18 and 35 who were citizens of a state in the Confederacy subject to national military service for a term of three years..."
Congress passes Civil War conscription act
Were African Americans drafted under the 1863 Militia Act?
The New York City Draft Riots of 1863:
"Blacks, who were not considered citizens, were exempt from the draft... White workers compared their value unfavorably to that of southern slaves, stating that '[we] are sold for $300 [the price of exemption from war service] whilst they pay $1000 for negroes.'"
New York Draft Riots:
"Compounding the issue, African Americans were exempt from the draft..."Replies: @Alden, @RichardTaylor
Oldest game in the book.
At this point, this kind of minor woke lunacy is honestly a welcome respite from Total War on the straight white male and his oppressive allies. One can laugh instead of, or at least while, shaking one’s head.
“Here is her only action all day in the 0-41 loss: a kickoff that merely got to the 35 yard line.”
It looked to ME that she squib kicked the ball. If so, probably to avoid the risk of a return where she would either (a) get out of the way, or (b) risk getting absolutely blown up by a blocker.
I bet she can kick the ball further, but was instructed to not do so.
“so they did the publicity stunt of dressing the school’s women’s soccer team goalie as their placekicker.”
Exactly.
“This was hyped as the first time ever a woman had played in big time college football.”
She didn’t play a meaningful part. She squib kicked a ball.
Had she ran the ball, attempted a pass, or made a tackle, then she “played”.
What a joke.
Vanderbilt Commodores K Sarah Fuller makes history with second-half kickoff
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30407278/vanderbilt-commodores-k-sarah-fuller-makes-history-second-half-kickoff
QUOTE: Fuller took the field against Missouri with a special sticker on the back of her helmet which read, “Play Like a Girl.”
Ha, ha.
QUOTE: While Fuller didn’t get the opportunity to kick a field goal or an extra point against Missouri, she said she made a field goal from as far away as 38 yards in practice earlier in the week.
So maybe she can do better but screwed up. Isn’t it hard to screw up a kickoff this badly though?
A white girl.
So your not really convinced yet.
The exception proves the rule.
Contrast with lithe emergency backup goalie/zambonindriver who at least looked like he belonged. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/sports/lightning/2020/02/23/carolina-hurricanes-emergency-backup-goalie-beats-toronto-maple-leafs/%3foutputType=amp
Two pieces of irony: First, he was (and is) an employee of the Toronto Maple Leafs, so he ended up hurting his own team. Due to the season being truncated and the playoffs expanding, it ended up not mattering, but Toronto ended up tied for 8th in the East.
Second, due to the way hockey determines goalie wins, if he had come in and given up no goals, he would not have been the winning goalie. Once he gave up two goals, only then could he be considered the winning goalie. This is different than baseball, where if a pitcher leaves the game with a lead and the game never gets tied up afterwards, he must be named the winning pitcher.
History-Making Vanderbilt Kicker Sarah Fuller Was Made for the Moment
https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/28/sarah-fuller-vanderbilt-kicker-history
QUOTE: Her kickoff was short, but to the disappointment of some haters who were hoping this experiment would flop, that was by design. The coaching staff wanted to keep her kicking motion consistent with what she was accustomed to in soccer, which meant a directional kick with no follow-through.
Right.
Comments here are narrative non-compliant:
"about to put her right foot into a football, and speak volumes to women around the world".
Even there regular "making history" blather is ridiculous. C'mon it's sports.
But when they think they get on the PC train ... it's just cloyingly, pathetically stupid.
Exception proves the rule.
Hey, at least she isn’t trans.
I thought that was an onside kick.
Female Running Back Makes History in Pro Football Game
She is 5-2, 130 lbs and it is pretty grimacing watching her get smacked. Joe Rogan’s cancellation is entirely due to his disapproval of a trans woman smashing its fist into the face of women MMA fighters.
(by “cancellation” I am using the SJW slang definition of no longer acceptable in modern polite society)
What does this even mean?
The US women's Olympic soccer team lost to a local boys' high school age team in Texas.Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Dr. DoomNGloom
Semi OT cockney music hall fun
with er ed tucked……..
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?Replies: @Anonymous, @415 reasons, @Jtgw, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Desiderius, @V. K. Ovelund
Do you include among such roles that of voting in national elections?
There was a prominent Tennessee suffragist that Bill Kauffman wrote about who opposed the amendment. She wanted her state to adopt suffrage freely. A constitutional amendment smacked a little too much of the Late Unpleasantness, I guess. (Don't know where she was a few years earlier when Tennessee happily ratified the Sixteenth and Eighteenth.)
By the way, there are no "national elections", or national electorates, in the United States. All elections, from the presidency down to town hogreeve, are state elections. Women were voting for Congress as early as 1790.Replies: @Rosie
Contrast with lithe emergency backup goalie/zambonindriver who at least looked like he belonged. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/sports/lightning/2020/02/23/carolina-hurricanes-emergency-backup-goalie-beats-toronto-maple-leafs/%3foutputType=ampReplies: @Steve Sailer, @ScarletNumber
Thanks.
I’d love to see her start at cornerback. That would be entertaining as hell…
I always feel somewhat obligated to share this bit of paleo-wokeness exhibited by my high school alma mater (and Steve’s alma mater’s cross town academic and athletic rival) Chaminade back in 1990. I was a sophomore and witnessed first hand our football team’s female place kicker not only kick a PAT, but also win homecoming queen during that very same game’s halftime presentation:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-11-06-me-3794-story.html
As a side note, in the first game of that season ( played in Hawaii) Ms. Cook missed a short field goal that would have won the game for her team (the game ended in a tie). Chaminade finished the season 1-8-1 that year. (the same record the Texas State Armadillos achieved in 1991’s underrated comedy film Necessary Roughness, that we went to see as a team in preparation for our upcoming 1991 football season.
We went on to a 10-3 record, beating Steve’s Golden Knights for the first time ever, then my senior year we beat the GK’s in the league-championship-deciding regular season finale. I was quoted in the article about the win in the newspaper the next day (Eric Sondheimer was the local football beat reporter and I believe still covers youth sports for the LAT these days.)
The coaches had the presence of mind to not give her a swat on the fanny when she came off the field. Imagine the deep s*it they would be in if one of them, swept up in the awesomeness of the moment, had done so.
Based on personal observation, the vast majority of kickers in college and professional football are white.
Such a fuss about nothing. I saw a few headlines and assumed she is really playing.
It means the Vanderbilt couldn’t go to someone on the men’s soccer team because they don’t have one. In Vanderbilt’s defense only Kentucky and South Carolina sponsor men’s soccer in the 14-team SEC.
It’s come up before here, but I only found out a year or two ago that women’s national soccer teams scrimmage against 15 and under guys teams semi-regularly and generally can’t compete.
(“u15” which is “under 15” but due to the rules is actually under 16, in spite of the name… or something)
This thread has some somewhat decent discussion in the comments:
(this one is briefer and also touches on pay https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/638oy4/fcd_u15s_scrimmage_us_womens_national_team_ahead/ )
My son played high school soccer so I developed an interest in watching the US women's team. After you get used to the slower play it's fairly entertaining.Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @S. Anonyia, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
When I was a grad student at Penn State in the 80’s, the intramural football fields all had goal posts despite their costs. I was told that the Joe Paterno sent out scouts to look for kickers at the IM fields. I didn’t see goal posts at IM fields at my undergrad and postdoc universities nor where I am as faculty. I Google mapped the IM fields now and I don’t the posts up. There were a lot of good IM football players at Penn State in the 80’s.
Hopefully he didn't send out Jerry Sandusky.
If they want publicity, call up Kathy Ireland.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102517/mediaviewer/rm220433920/
So, the strong feminist element on campus demands that women be allowed to play on the men’s teams. During a rivalry football game, where one player after another drops with an injury, the coach inserts the girl into the line up at halfback. Designed running play up the middle and the lass is met at the line of scrimage by the middle linebacker who flattens her with a crushing tackle. Girl is carted off the field and laid on a training table on the sidelines. A team doctor, unaware who is injured, starts to treat her. The girl awakes to find the doctor pushing down hard on her breast. Before she can comment, the doctor says…”Don’t worry son as soon as I can get your nuts pushed down to where they belong, I think your dick will pop back out.”
I hung out for a few months, back in the 1970s, with a guy who was a kicker for a Canadian football team. He wanted to play football, but didn’t want to get clobbered every game.
As a loyal son of Ol’ Mizzou I actually watched the entire game, during which this inane masquerade was referred to non-stop as “historic” and “inspiring to women everywhere.” One announcer kept gushing about how much this meant to him as the father of a 3-year-old girl or something.
Thank goodness Mizzou kept hapless Vandy far out of range for a FG or PAT or the farce would have really, uh, kicked into high gear. Not in our house, I was thinking, waggling my finger and shaking my head like a cornerback after an incomplete pass. They crossed the Tiger 40 once so we did get to see Sarah kick one ball into the practice net!
Anyway, this gal got more camera time standing on the sidelines than anyone actually on the field. And one very predictable moment — a female sideline reporter interviewed the young lady after the game, and of course the first question was, “How did it feel to blah blah blah…”
Contrast with lithe emergency backup goalie/zambonindriver who at least looked like he belonged. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/sports/lightning/2020/02/23/carolina-hurricanes-emergency-backup-goalie-beats-toronto-maple-leafs/%3foutputType=ampReplies: @Steve Sailer, @ScarletNumber
To be fair, this guy was a practice goalie for the team as well, as well as a former minor-league goalie. It’s not like he was the janitor.
Two pieces of irony: First, he was (and is) an employee of the Toronto Maple Leafs, so he ended up hurting his own team. Due to the season being truncated and the playoffs expanding, it ended up not mattering, but Toronto ended up tied for 8th in the East.
Second, due to the way hockey determines goalie wins, if he had come in and given up no goals, he would not have been the winning goalie. Once he gave up two goals, only then could he be considered the winning goalie. This is different than baseball, where if a pitcher leaves the game with a lead and the game never gets tied up afterwards, he must be named the winning pitcher.
Vanderbilt does have a men’s club soccer team.
I don’t think the defense is allowed to clobber the kicker unless xe runs with the ball. I doubt a she would risk a possibly dangerous clobbering and run the ball. Which kind of means she wasn’t really playing the position.
Kickers and Punters Scoring Touchdowns! | NFL Highlights”
Rememberences of stupid past.
George Plimpton, The Story of the Detroit Lions’ Famous Last-String 1960’s Quarterback
To Say George Plimpton Was the Worst Professional Football Player is an Understatement. But He Never Gave Up on the Dream
https://detroitisit.com/george-plimpton-detroit-lions-quarterback-football/
Shades of fifty years ago, when the big schools still ignored the sport, and it was dominated by the likes of St Louis U, U of San Francisco, and Hartwick. And damn near all the players were foreign-born. Kyle Rote Jr was big news. He went to Sewanee.
It means Title Nine required schools to offer more women’s sports, to gain rough parity with their men’s programs — so many men’s sports had to be dropped to achieve this parity. Such as soccer at many schools, as Scarlet Number points out. Soccer is very big in St Louis so Mizzou does have a “club” team, not an officially school-sponsored team.
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?Replies: @Anonymous, @415 reasons, @Jtgw, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Desiderius, @V. K. Ovelund
Maybe she couldn’t have kicked it better anyways but it appears to have been a squib kick. They couldn’t even try to kick it long because the girl would literally have to run away from the play— having a girl be blocked by or try to tackle a D1 athlete would be dangerous. The image of the girl kicker running from the danger of the activity she was supposedly breaking a glass ceiling on would not do at all. But yes, this stuff is insipid. This woman is both unqualified to do this and women in general are not harmed by their inability to play college football. This is more girlboss feminism breaking fictitious boundaries just for the sake of doing it.
No one above has mentioned wrestling as the new unisex sport.Replies: @Cortes
That happened in Nashville as well. Tennessee was the state that put the Nineteenth Amendment over the top. The vote was close– one last legislator was dithering, and his mother nagged him into it.
There was a prominent Tennessee suffragist that Bill Kauffman wrote about who opposed the amendment. She wanted her state to adopt suffrage freely. A constitutional amendment smacked a little too much of the Late Unpleasantness, I guess. (Don’t know where she was a few years earlier when Tennessee happily ratified the Sixteenth and Eighteenth.)
By the way, there are no “national elections”, or national electorates, in the United States. All elections, from the presidency down to town hogreeve, are state elections. Women were voting for Congress as early as 1790.
Does anyone know who has the rights to Mr. Ayers’ story? I’m sure it would go over well with conscientious, agreeable, and extroverted movie-going public. I remember that Disney did a movie about a 35 year old rookie called Rookie a while ago. 42 is even more inspiring! And imagine this guy’s personal life. He probably had a wife that needed an operation, or lived with his sick mother…
Box office GOLD, I tells ya!
https://youtu.be/DNjfQhhAZT4
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?Replies: @Anonymous, @415 reasons, @Jtgw, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Desiderius, @V. K. Ovelund
“You can do anything if you put your mind to it.” I’m pretty hereditarian but seems obvious the blank slate meme does extraordinary cultural damage. Going to be constant struggle to remind my daughter that no, she can’t be anything she wants to be if what she wants is literally impossible.
I recommend George Gissing's 1892 novel, The Odd Women, to learn the natural situation of girls who aren't able to attract a husband, aren't inheriting wealth, and aren't bright and social enough to be a governess/teacher. Of course, this is happening in a pre-Welfare, pre-Affirmative Action world; a world that's very likely to return once we're no longer able to support so many millions of jobs that aren't really producing anything. Other than drastically lowering the cost of labor, the major success in Feminism is concealing the huge number of superfluous women, and now with so many young women proclaiming their gayness, or at the very least their resentment of men, they positively revel in their superfluousness.
Does she shower with the guys like in Starship Troopers? Does kicking a ball once require a shower?
SSAs are surgeons. So…
Jason Whitlock hits all the points https://www.outkick.com/whitlock-sarah-fuller-publicity-stunt-scores-in-make-a-wish-culture-war/
The Vanderbilt coach has openly insulted his players. Essentially, he has told his team that they couldn't possibly compete in this game, to the extent that if the result came down to a kick for points, the coach preferred rostering a walking virtue signal to someone who actually had a chance to help his players (who are, frankly, risking life and limb) win.
I played high level collegiate sport, and I would have lost all respect for any coach who essentially showed me he thought we had no chance, that we didn't belong on then field against our opponent.
This is contemptible.Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Alden
This is nowhere near as impressive as what Manon Rhéaume did. She is the cute Québécois lady who played one period in net during an NHL exhibition game for the Tampa Bay Lightning in 1992
She made seven saves against grown men trying out for NHL jobs.
Very true.
The Midget batter was a travesty rule opportunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel
Manon may have been a publicity stunt, but more like "Mystery Alaska". Anyone who could hang in there against pro level talent deserves respect.
("u15" which is "under 15" but due to the rules is actually under 16, in spite of the name... or something)
This thread has some somewhat decent discussion in the comments:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/63ajk7/fc_dallas_u15s_beat_us_womens_national_team_52_in/
(this one is briefer and also touches on pay https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/638oy4/fcd_u15s_scrimmage_us_womens_national_team_ahead/ )Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Barnard, @Yawrate, @Polynikes
U15 means 15 and under. I’m sure because of translation reasons the order is reversed. Softball, which is an American game, puts the number first, i.e. 15U.
Box office GOLD, I tells ya!Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Known Fact, @Hypnotoad666
He’d had a kidney transplant 15 years before.
He was also a practice goalie for the NHL team. He’s like an old time big league baseball story where a high school pitcher hurts his arm, so he becomes a ballpark greenskeeper and pitches batting practice, so they put him into a game and after a rocky start he wins it.
Here’s a Jew sportswriter doing the Jewish Revolutionary bit about Sarah Fuller really hard:
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/benjamin-hochman/ten-hochman-against-mizzou-vanderbilt-could-make-history-with-a-woman-as-kicker/video_c44b6984-2ec7-5049-bf3f-32c3dfec429a.html
Vanderbilt, by the way, is liberal at the administrative- and faculty-level as bad as Berkeley or Harvard. It seems they try extra-hard because of the “Evil Legacy” they have of being a southern university.
There was a 2019 Toyota Super Bowl commercial about a delusional woman who wanted to play in the NFL:
According to a comment there on YouTube, she had 3 tackles in 2 years of college football.
https://www.facebook.com/jasonwhitlock/videos/toni-harris-is-being-used-as-a-tool-in-the-fake-news-propaganda-machine/2278685068848364/
The best part is near the end, with a couple of Toni Harris “highlight” clips. It looks like she plays way back, where there’s little chance of being involved in the play. In the first clip, she just falls down for no apparent reason. I’m sure NFL scouts are on the lookout for defensive players who try to avoid contact with offensive players.Replies: @ScarletNumber
("u15" which is "under 15" but due to the rules is actually under 16, in spite of the name... or something)
This thread has some somewhat decent discussion in the comments:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/63ajk7/fc_dallas_u15s_beat_us_womens_national_team_52_in/
(this one is briefer and also touches on pay https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/638oy4/fcd_u15s_scrimmage_us_womens_national_team_ahead/ )Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Barnard, @Yawrate, @Polynikes
I remember reading about that when it happened. There was a pathetic defense made of the women’s team that they would have tried harder and won if it had been a serious match. A couple of years before that the St. Mary’s women’s soccer team played a scrimmage against the men’s basketball team and lost badly. In their defense, the men’s basketball team at St Mary’s is typically half international players most of whom grew up playing soccer, but still.
Seriously, don’t these people have anything better to do than make women look ridiculous?
I neither watched nor cared about this stunt, but I wrote in to thank Steve for including that tweet regarding Title IX. Known Fact and Scarletnumber explained it already to those that didn’t understand, but I think this one more piece of Feral Gov’t screwing us over should be brought up more.
I’m not a guy who’d have been on many of these could-have-been men’s teams anyway, but you never know. Men enjoy lots of different sports that might attract some fans too, while the money goes to women’s teams for fairness, though many of them really don’t give much of a damn. Fans don’t want to watch those who aren’t the best that the school could come up with.
Right, fairness, see? How about a requirement to employ an equal number of male teachers as women in the grade schools? It’d be good for the kids. What Title are we up to now?
Re: the university scrapping men’s soccer: couldn’t the fraternities just sort something out themselves?
Soccer’s basically the cheapest game there is. Even if you want to play it to a professional grade: balls, boots, shinguards, and goals: that’s it. You don’t actually need to hold it in stadiums: just do it in public parks. If enough people show up that the police get upset, great!: the university might rethink their decision, or else some businessman might see the opportunity and start renting arenas and selling tickets.
Come on, lads, get on it
No doubt a litany of child abuse today.Replies: @Anonymous, @martin_2, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
No, but I wouldn’t mind being QB were she playing center.
She made seven saves against grown men trying out for NHL jobs.Replies: @Rosie, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @S. Anonyia
That makes sense. It seems like hockey players rely more on speed and agility than strength alone.
There was a prominent Tennessee suffragist that Bill Kauffman wrote about who opposed the amendment. She wanted her state to adopt suffrage freely. A constitutional amendment smacked a little too much of the Late Unpleasantness, I guess. (Don't know where she was a few years earlier when Tennessee happily ratified the Sixteenth and Eighteenth.)
By the way, there are no "national elections", or national electorates, in the United States. All elections, from the presidency down to town hogreeve, are state elections. Women were voting for Congress as early as 1790.Replies: @Rosie
Good for her.
As a side-note, it is interesting that there is Amren for race, E. Michael Jones/Culture Wars magazine for the JQ, the Mises Institute for anti-socialism, Lambda report for anti-LGBTQ but there is no major think-tank to oppose the rapacious rampage of sexual equalism (sometimes called “feminism”). I wonder why?
OT I always loved the so to speak “theme song” of the Larry Elder radio program but only recently figured out what it was and now admire it more. This is a song where a black Man (see what I did there?) says, yes, there’s bad things about the South, but also good: gosh I wonder why I had never heard it before.
Men don’t want to make women look ridiculous. When it happens, it’s because there are women who pushed for it.
“Here is her only action all day in the 0-41 loss: a kickoff that merely got to the 35 yard line. (The standard for college football kickers is to be able to fly the ball at least to the goal line, an additional 35 yards, with considerable height to allow the defenders time to run down field.)”
It’s possible that this was intentional for the specific purpose of protecting the female from actually having to make a tackle if a returnable kick had been put into play. As bad as VB is, their kick coverage is a reflection of that. Imagine the narrative’s impact crater had this young lady been trucked by a negro returning the ball.
Soccer's basically the cheapest game there is. Even if you want to play it to a professional grade: balls, boots, shinguards, and goals: that's it. You don't actually need to hold it in stadiums: just do it in public parks. If enough people show up that the police get upset, great!: the university might rethink their decision, or else some businessman might see the opportunity and start renting arenas and selling tickets.
Come on, lads, get on itReplies: @Bragadocious, @Gordo, @Skylark Thibedeau, @Bill Jones
I would bet Vanderbilt has a men’s club team that travels and plays, just not Div. 1. My alma mater scrapped the baseball program and they do this. They have a lot less money than Vanderbilt.
Box office GOLD, I tells ya!Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Known Fact, @Hypnotoad666
His wife did not need an operation, but the dramatic twist is that she was right there in the stands that night, just watching the game with her husband, when he was suddenly called down to play in the game. I mean, can you imagine?
https://twitter.com/35Ayres/status/1231391246834376704Replies: @AnotherDad
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?Replies: @Anonymous, @415 reasons, @Jtgw, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Desiderius, @V. K. Ovelund
Young white men on both sides could have asked that question in 1863:
Confederate Conscription Woes:
“The law prescribed, with some exceptions, that all white Southern males aged 18 to 35 were now subject to conscription for three years’ service. One-year men in the Army had their enlistments extended for an additional two years.”
Civil War Conscription Laws:
“In addition, the law made all white males between the ages of 18 and 35 who were citizens of a state in the Confederacy subject to national military service for a term of three years…”
Congress passes Civil War conscription act
Were African Americans drafted under the 1863 Militia Act?
The New York City Draft Riots of 1863:
“Blacks, who were not considered citizens, were exempt from the draft… White workers compared their value unfavorably to that of southern slaves, stating that ‘[we] are sold for $300 [the price of exemption from war service] whilst they pay $1000 for negroes.’”
New York Draft Riots:
“Compounding the issue, African Americans were exempt from the draft…”
All the North had to do is, you know, not invade. 750,000 White men would have survived.
Or, come up with better solutions on how to deal with the Black population that had been imported 200 years earlier from the 1600s. Regardless of how the South was dealing with a huge Black population, none of that justifies the horror that Lincoln brought, including the destruction of the Constitution.
But New England was composed of gooftards who had read Uncle Tom's Cabin and wanted to spill blood for their sweet Black brothers.Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar
What father of a 3 year old girl doesn’t want to watch his daughter grow up and get mangled by men on a football field? Evolve man.
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?Replies: @Anonymous, @415 reasons, @Jtgw, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Desiderius, @V. K. Ovelund
I think the Woke believe they can force them to fight like how the Soviet Union was able to force Cossacks to fight Germany in World War II. (Though I don’t think winning over SIMPs will do them much good.)
We should promote to Special Forces the view of their leadership and plans to extradite them to Iran, Afghanistan etc.
The arguably well intentioned but stupid defense was just a kneejerk reaction by people who don’t do sports and didn’t look into it.
In reality there’s no real shame in it and nothing to defend. It’s that way whenever these games happen all around the world because that’s just the biology of it. I doubt anyone involved expected a different outcome. Some point out that the WNT did well to score at all and to keep the thing as tight as 5-2.
The military at least the leadership is 100% woke. They think White men are not needed because of drones, robots, and Chinese brainpower under Dems.
We should promote to Special Forces the view of their leadership and plans to extradite them to Iran, Afghanistan etc.
Sorry. I assumed all football players are black. Aren’t they the ones featured in newspapers magazine covers and on TV?
Such a fuss about nothing. I saw a few headlines and assumed she is really playing.
Mizzou’s Professor of Football makes $4M per year.
Pay the male players.
When I was a grad student at Penn State in the 80’s, the intramural football fields all had goal posts despite their costs. I was told that the Joe Paterno sent out scouts to look for kickers at the IM fields.
Hopefully he didn’t send out Jerry Sandusky.
This is what a top-notch field goal kicker looks like (Harrison Butker of the Kansas City Chiefs):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYiCB44dfcReplies: @Hypnotoad666, @Russ
That was kinda cool. He was basically seeing how far he could kick a field goal if he had a running start and no defenders. The answer looked to be about 80 yards.
I'm not a guy who'd have been on many of these could-have-been men's teams anyway, but you never know. Men enjoy lots of different sports that might attract some fans too, while the money goes to women's teams for fairness, though many of them really don't give much of a damn. Fans don't want to watch those who aren't the best that the school could come up with.
Right, fairness, see? How about a requirement to employ an equal number of male teachers as women in the grade schools? It'd be good for the kids. What Title are we up to now?Replies: @Anonymous, @Polistra
Patience. We must end gender segregation in our sports. This may be a step in the right direction.
Confederate Conscription Woes:
"The law prescribed, with some exceptions, that all white Southern males aged 18 to 35 were now subject to conscription for three years’ service. One-year men in the Army had their enlistments extended for an additional two years."
Civil War Conscription Laws:
"In addition, the law made all white males between the ages of 18 and 35 who were citizens of a state in the Confederacy subject to national military service for a term of three years..."
Congress passes Civil War conscription act
Were African Americans drafted under the 1863 Militia Act?
The New York City Draft Riots of 1863:
"Blacks, who were not considered citizens, were exempt from the draft... White workers compared their value unfavorably to that of southern slaves, stating that '[we] are sold for $300 [the price of exemption from war service] whilst they pay $1000 for negroes.'"
New York Draft Riots:
"Compounding the issue, African Americans were exempt from the draft..."Replies: @Alden, @RichardTaylor
The Confederates had all sorts of nasty middle aged men patrolling and hunting for deserters and draft dodgers. The book and movie Cold Mountain was based on real characters. But the hero, Inman, didn’t make it back home. He was killed by a patrol who assumed he was a deserter after the war ended. He wasn’t. Colonel of his regiment told his troops the war was lost and go home as best they could.
wwebd said – two comments …
first off, I wish there had been fewer male sports teams at my college. I was working class, had to work in high school instead of polishing my hackey sack skills or the borderline useless skills that would have gotten me onto the second string of one of the easier teams to make, AND IF THERE WERE FEWER JOCKS I WOULD HAVE HAD MORE ROMANTIC ACCESS TO THE COLLEGE WOMEN because there would have been less bragging rights for the rich kids on the second string on the midlevel teams, bragging rights I could not have had because I had to work for a living instead of being one of those dilettantes.
So I say VIVA TITLE NINE, or whatever number it is, I am not a government nerd so I don’t know the number of the title.
second comment ….
on the other hand, the more time rich people spend on physical activity, the better.
third comment —– I miss the old days when somebody who is in their early 20s can decide they are gonna try and be a pro in some sport they have never tried before. It is really sad – kind of pathetic, actually – that the only people in pro sports today are people who decided to go for that sport when they were really young. I Liked the old Mets, with working class clowns from nowhere like George Theodore and Jeff Inness, and I liked the old NFL, when place kickers and wide receivers would walk off a soccer field or a track field one day and be playing in the Pro Bowl a few months later.
Well that was three comments but the middle one shouldn’t count, I was just being nice.
I had to scramble in order to afford college. I’m resentful of:• rich college kids who were able to concentrate on sex, develop valuable social skills, and pursue CV-burnishing internships, research projects, etc.• government policies that reduced my take-home pay while they enabled colleges to raise tuition and fees.
Isn’t she supposed to be a college soccer player? I’m not that impressed. I’ve kicked a football about the same distance and I am several inches shorter and never played sports beyond the high school level (though I could have if I wanted to go to a crappy private college). Seriously. Where’s my ESPN coverage and adulation?
A lot of random women who are in shape could do better. That isn’t to say they should be playing with the dudes though.
Perhaps their plan was for her to intentionally kick poorly to avoid the possibility of getting tackled? If so they should just admit it.
OK, but getting sacked every other play by the Nose Tackle she was supposed to be blocking would get old pretty quickly.
It’s kind of odd that mixed doubles has always been a thing in tennis. Yet, no other sport seems to have picked up the concept.
For example, basketball could easily be played with a rule that each team has to play female players for half of all minutes (or maybe they have to have, say, 2 female players in the game at all times).
As in tennis, everyone would know the women aren’t the best athletes on the court. But the playing field is even as between the teams. And working the female players into the game plan most effectively would simply be part of the strategy.
It might be an interesting twist for the game. At any rate, it would be better than canceling the whole program because it’s too expensive to maintain separate teams under Title IX.
I’ve heard former Australian Rules football players who played NFL say that they had no idea about the game and had to be told exactly what to do .
Every role is so specialised so you may only need one very narrow skill . You wouldn’t find that at the highest level of any other sport
Box office GOLD, I tells ya!Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Known Fact, @Hypnotoad666
It’s already been made. Except the guy is a mule. I can’t remember if his mother needed an operation.
It’s good for young people to realize nobody can be anything they want, both sons and daughters. It’s tragic when they waste time and energy of their life on boondoggles.
They should know how rewarding it is to get traction in the domains they’re well-suited for.
This couple bought a $20,000 piano for their unborn son because they knew he would take to it.
They were right.
The kicker?
They’re neither white nor (((white))).
They’re “Tiger Parents.”
Hard to argue with genes and culture:
https://youtu.be/oybU09RQUTs
Well, yeah, see, it’d be good if the nose tackle was a chick too.
https://youtu.be/8Jjtypq7BB0
I wouldn’t put too much store in a book that receives praise from the Usual Suspects of NYC critics.
Confederate Conscription Woes:
"The law prescribed, with some exceptions, that all white Southern males aged 18 to 35 were now subject to conscription for three years’ service. One-year men in the Army had their enlistments extended for an additional two years."
Civil War Conscription Laws:
"In addition, the law made all white males between the ages of 18 and 35 who were citizens of a state in the Confederacy subject to national military service for a term of three years..."
Congress passes Civil War conscription act
Were African Americans drafted under the 1863 Militia Act?
The New York City Draft Riots of 1863:
"Blacks, who were not considered citizens, were exempt from the draft... White workers compared their value unfavorably to that of southern slaves, stating that '[we] are sold for $300 [the price of exemption from war service] whilst they pay $1000 for negroes.'"
New York Draft Riots:
"Compounding the issue, African Americans were exempt from the draft..."Replies: @Alden, @RichardTaylor
You make every thread about your anti-Southern, anti-White hatred. And your supposed desire to defend your silly ass ancestors (assuming you aren’t an SPLC troll).
All the North had to do is, you know, not invade. 750,000 White men would have survived.
Or, come up with better solutions on how to deal with the Black population that had been imported 200 years earlier from the 1600s. Regardless of how the South was dealing with a huge Black population, none of that justifies the horror that Lincoln brought, including the destruction of the Constitution.
But New England was composed of gooftards who had read Uncle Tom’s Cabin and wanted to spill blood for their sweet Black brothers.
His little stack of pet troll topics. Car Grease is a troll, and after one has been through the cycle, it's boring.
https://positek.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/sign-do-not-feed-trolls-image-from-shutterstock.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Who is right?Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Anonymous
Jason Whitlock was excoriated on Twitter because he had the temerity to ask if this was a publicity stunt and why they couldn’t find a half decent male kicker on say the male soccer team (which has been defunct since the mid aughts.
Apparently Hope Solo has never heard of a rhetorical question before.
I give Whitlock credit for going after sacred cows. Earlier this year he got criticized for correctly pointing out that if Katie Nolan only has a job in sports "journalism" because of her appearance. Nolan is a fraud who made her bones by being "one of the guys" and not like "the other girls". Of course, once she reached a modicum level of fame she renounced her previous statements. In other words, she pulled an Amy Schumer.
Exactly, and I’d go a step further and say it’s actually done for the sake of making a show of it. If they could make a show of it without taking the field, even in this fake way, they’d jump on it.
But now we get to have a made-for-TV movie, or whatever they’re doing nowadays. And it will be almost totally devoid of facts. Which I do know is what they’re doing nowadays.
I'm not a guy who'd have been on many of these could-have-been men's teams anyway, but you never know. Men enjoy lots of different sports that might attract some fans too, while the money goes to women's teams for fairness, though many of them really don't give much of a damn. Fans don't want to watch those who aren't the best that the school could come up with.
Right, fairness, see? How about a requirement to employ an equal number of male teachers as women in the grade schools? It'd be good for the kids. What Title are we up to now?Replies: @Anonymous, @Polistra
Which reminds me: for us even to pretend to any notion of fighting systemic inequities, we need for a minimum of 40% of calculus teachers to be African Americans. Maybe even more in order to compensate for past inequities.
Soccer's basically the cheapest game there is. Even if you want to play it to a professional grade: balls, boots, shinguards, and goals: that's it. You don't actually need to hold it in stadiums: just do it in public parks. If enough people show up that the police get upset, great!: the university might rethink their decision, or else some businessman might see the opportunity and start renting arenas and selling tickets.
Come on, lads, get on itReplies: @Bragadocious, @Gordo, @Skylark Thibedeau, @Bill Jones
They would be subject to law fare.
In the SWAC and MEAC the extra point is not automatic.
Also, I find it ironic that black athletes, instead of congregating at HBCU, decided to invade white colleges instead. If LSU was all white, do you think they would have a chance against Grambling?Replies: @black sea, @Skylark Thibedeau
Soccer's basically the cheapest game there is. Even if you want to play it to a professional grade: balls, boots, shinguards, and goals: that's it. You don't actually need to hold it in stadiums: just do it in public parks. If enough people show up that the police get upset, great!: the university might rethink their decision, or else some businessman might see the opportunity and start renting arenas and selling tickets.
Come on, lads, get on itReplies: @Bragadocious, @Gordo, @Skylark Thibedeau, @Bill Jones
Soccer is cheap but the school would have to pay for scholarships for the athletes and salaries for the coaching staff plus airfare or busfare to games plus liability insurance. I’m thinking Vandy paid a hefty liability insurance premium to put the lady in the game. Had she been hurt it would be lawsuit city.
This was when DePaul was back in then old Big East, 16 teams and only 4 of them in the Midwest. Well, guess what? The women played the same schedule, basically, as the men's sports - flying to the East Coast once or twice a week to play Georgetown or Rutgers or whomever, in front of a hundred paying customers. Throw in a dozen scholarships, lodging, insurance ... it had to cost the school a fortune.
So, yeah, volleyball - like soccer - is at face an inexpensive participation sport, that's just the beginning of the investment.Replies: @ScarletNumber
Sports Center’s chick on ESPN interviewed her this morning. Both of them acted like she’s role model of the year and also as if she kicked the SB game winner. Ridiculous. She was kicking practice field goals from the 15 (to 25 yards), (center line, not from the hashes) the ball was BARELY clearing the cross. Gimmie a break. Amazing what passes for heroism these days.
Because women are pawns in the war.
Another variation of the soft bigotry of low expectations.
She made seven saves against grown men trying out for NHL jobs.Replies: @Rosie, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @S. Anonyia
@Canadien Observer,
Very true.
The Midget batter was a travesty rule opportunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel
Manon may have been a publicity stunt, but more like “Mystery Alaska”. Anyone who could hang in there against pro level talent deserves respect.
Achmed just wants to take practice snaps. In other words, he just wants to feel her up. Careful, Achmed. That’s a mighty big mountain to climb, she’s huge, with a mighty-size ass, complete with cinder block-shaped head and very deep voice for a chick.. Got all kinda spikes and hardware in her schnozz, too.
Are we certain ‘she’s’ a she? Maybe we got bamboozeled by a tranny-type. In which case, I absolutely want Achmed to take snaps, come back, tell us how it made him feel, heh..
Although if she’d tried a field goal and got it blocked before the rush swept her away like a rip tide, wouldn’t that have been something?
For example, basketball could easily be played with a rule that each team has to play female players for half of all minutes (or maybe they have to have, say, 2 female players in the game at all times).
As in tennis, everyone would know the women aren't the best athletes on the court. But the playing field is even as between the teams. And working the female players into the game plan most effectively would simply be part of the strategy.
It might be an interesting twist for the game. At any rate, it would be better than canceling the whole program because it's too expensive to maintain separate teams under Title IX.Replies: @Anon7
“…2 female players in the game at all times.”
It’s called co-ed basketball; there are lots of leagues. When played with friends, it’s fun to do. Competitive males will be frustrated, however; some leagues even have rules about “rough play” being discouraged. Men are free to cover women on defense; it’s not the worst physical contact I’ve had in sports.
I could tell “back in the day” stories; suffice it to say that even women who are starters for NCAA division one schools aren’t particularly good compared with good amateur males.
My dude, Legends Football League has you covered:
Was it really a squib? Looked like it was a bad kick, which perhaps the coach counted on. Since I don’t suffer from the male perspective of wanting to protect women, I really want to see her try to tackle a kick returner some day. Unfortunately no NFL player has plowed into the female ref, which has been greatly disappointing. Maybe the girls will surprise us? But please men, call their bluff and give them what they claim to want. Feminism counts on the patriarchy to make things right and perfect.
No one above has mentioned wrestling as the new unisex sport.
("u15" which is "under 15" but due to the rules is actually under 16, in spite of the name... or something)
This thread has some somewhat decent discussion in the comments:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/63ajk7/fc_dallas_u15s_beat_us_womens_national_team_52_in/
(this one is briefer and also touches on pay https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/638oy4/fcd_u15s_scrimmage_us_womens_national_team_ahead/ )Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Barnard, @Yawrate, @Polynikes
Teenage boys crushing women’s national teams is old news. The slowest boy is always faster than anyone on the women’s team. The only reason the women score at all is better teamwork.
My son played high school soccer so I developed an interest in watching the US women’s team. After you get used to the slower play it’s fairly entertaining.
Supposedly, the boys scored double digit goals, the girls none, and the girls hardly touched the ball.
I learned this the hard way when I was persuaded to substitute for a friend on his fraternity’s intramural touch football team Freshman year.
https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1332554991031246855?s=20
https://twitter.com/ItsMikeHill/status/1332774895663591424?s=20
https://twitter.com/hopesolo/status/1332693093657812992?s=20Replies: @Bugg, @ScarletNumber
And Vandy doesn’t have a mens’ team since 2006 because of Title IX. Liberals don’t want to discuss that.
All PC, all the time. Truth is suppressed. Recall “60 Minutes” doing a story about a female to male swimmer getting the last spot on the Harvard swim team, surrounded by a bunch of brolic tall guys. Basically you have this now dumpy “guy” with her tits cut off probably jacked up on testosterone who in only one race did not finish last, probably because one swimmer cramped up. But CBS reported this as a this wonderful story. what about the guy who did not get that spot to accommodate this stupidity.
Had Missouri run the kick back because Vandy was playing basically only 10 players, would have been much more real. Or had some Mizzou player clobbered her. Plus the game was a total blowout.
https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/28/sarah-fuller-vanderbilt-kicker-history
QUOTE: Her kickoff was short, but to the disappointment of some haters who were hoping this experiment would flop, that was by design. The coaching staff wanted to keep her kicking motion consistent with what she was accustomed to in soccer, which meant a directional kick with no follow-through.
Right.
Comments here are narrative non-compliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP8OUMW_C58Replies: @Anonymous, @Neuday, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad
See you are meant to try and make plays to win the game, not dumb down the curriculum to the idiots.
first off, I wish there had been fewer male sports teams at my college. I was working class, had to work in high school instead of polishing my hackey sack skills or the borderline useless skills that would have gotten me onto the second string of one of the easier teams to make, AND IF THERE WERE FEWER JOCKS I WOULD HAVE HAD MORE ROMANTIC ACCESS TO THE COLLEGE WOMEN because there would have been less bragging rights for the rich kids on the second string on the midlevel teams, bragging rights I could not have had because I had to work for a living instead of being one of those dilettantes.So I say VIVA TITLE NINE, or whatever number it is, I am not a government nerd so I don't know the number of the title.
second comment ....on the other hand, the more time rich people spend on physical activity, the better.
third comment ----- I miss the old days when somebody who is in their early 20s can decide they are gonna try and be a pro in some sport they have never tried before. It is really sad - kind of pathetic, actually - that the only people in pro sports today are people who decided to go for that sport when they were really young. I Liked the old Mets, with working class clowns from nowhere like George Theodore and Jeff Inness, and I liked the old NFL, when place kickers and wide receivers would walk off a soccer field or a track field one day and be playing in the Pro Bowl a few months later.Well that was three comments but the middle one shouldn't count, I was just being nice.Replies: @Abolish_public_education
The 1896 US Olympic team was composed of 14 walk-ons from Ivy institutions. They paid their own way, and scored a bunch of medals.
I had to scramble in order to afford college. I’m resentful of:
• rich college kids who were able to concentrate on sex, develop valuable social skills, and pursue CV-burnishing internships, research projects, etc.
• government policies that reduced my take-home pay while they enabled colleges to raise tuition and fees.
Was this travesty in any sense a corollary of guilt and gesture of atonement for the 2018 gang-rape, vaginally and anally (probably with no lubrication) of a white coed by black football players, one of whom urinated on the victim after they were done gang-raping her? Two of the low-IQ savages and degenerates, including the one who urinated on the victim in retaliation for “499-years of slavery” (listen to Jared Taylors latest video at AR), were sentenced to 15 and 17-years in prison, respectively. The prosecution and victim were calling for the maximum sentence fo 25-years in prison. I’d be amazed if these brutes and savages didn’t have prior criminal records, including convictions or at least arrests for violent and/or other mala in se felonies. I wonder if both are eligible for parole in 5 or 10-years. If so, I’m sure they won’t serve 15 and 17-years and will likely be released in less or even far than 10-years.
By the way, I didn't even know about this gang-rape case until I read your comment.
They want us to know about the kicker though. Says it all.
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?Replies: @Anonymous, @415 reasons, @Jtgw, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Desiderius, @V. K. Ovelund
It’s the fathers behind this (direct result of smaller family sizes). They don’t hate men per se, just other men. Certainly don’t hate themselves by a long shot. More like the opposite.
Oldest game in the book.
We still had tackle leagues leatherhead style. Rugby in the UK was still more punishing.
https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/28/sarah-fuller-vanderbilt-kicker-history
QUOTE: Her kickoff was short, but to the disappointment of some haters who were hoping this experiment would flop, that was by design. The coaching staff wanted to keep her kicking motion consistent with what she was accustomed to in soccer, which meant a directional kick with no follow-through.
Right.
Comments here are narrative non-compliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP8OUMW_C58Replies: @Anonymous, @Neuday, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad
Under current logic, the fact that a girl played in a Division 1 college football game there is now no reason at all not to have female linebackers and running backs except that the patriarchy forbids it.
My son played high school soccer so I developed an interest in watching the US women's team. After you get used to the slower play it's fairly entertaining.Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @S. Anonyia, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
I am working from foggy memory here, but there was story running around that before the woman’s world up with the Hamm-Chastain team, punctuated by Chastain’s sports bra moment during final penalty kicks, coach Tony DiCicco had the girls play a boys U-17 club team as a warm up.
Supposedly, the boys scored double digit goals, the girls none, and the girls hardly touched the ball.
Don’t forget — Deacon Jones kicked an extra point in his last regular-season game. They probably had lineman and safeties who could knock the ball down the field a good distance. Not to mention the punter!
Every single lineman on the team could kick off further. Too bad the kick wasn’t returned and she didn’t get flattened by a blocker.
My daughter is a bit of an athlete, playing basketball and volleyball and running cross country. I asked her this morning if she had seen this “story”. She said “Yeah, and she wasn’t very good at kicking.”
But my daughter also understands that women and men are different and most men will always be bigger , stronger and probably faster. She has even commented on the differences in men’s and women’s basketball at the high school level. The men play a lot faster and more physical. She said she knows she would not be safe playing with the boys in anything other than friendly half court games in the gym during lunch. Her school plays a couple of black schools and some of those black girls are as big or bigger than me at 6′ 290. But those big black girls don’t sprint down the court like the males do.
Katie Hnida did this for New Mexico 20 years ago, so no, not the first.
but the Wokeness level is at an all-time high, so trotting a woman out there in garbage time will probably be happening more often. also fact checking is at an all-time low.
Hnida was, naturally, sexually harassed by some of the actual football players.
I’ve heard it said that the goalie has to be the best skater on the team because of the challenge of remaining balanced on a pair of skates while protecting the net. That part of things is well-suited for a female athlete.
My son played high school soccer so I developed an interest in watching the US women's team. After you get used to the slower play it's fairly entertaining.Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @S. Anonyia, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
I wouldn’t say EVERY boy on the field is faster than all of the girls unless it’s a really good team. At the club or college level, certainly. But on a typical high school team you may have anywhere between 1-4 girls who are faster than the slowest boys, who would fall around the 25th percentile for the boys’ speed. However they are still weaker players.
My son and I suffered years of less than stellar team mates until his ascension to a regionally competitive team. Jack rabbits all of them!
When the women's national teams play a friendly against a boy's team they are playing against at nationally ranked squad. I think the reason the coaches agree to play their women vs the boys is the hope that it makes women play faster and smarter.
Interesting how little coverage that recieved compared to the massive media coverage of the Duke lacrosse and UVA fraternity gang rapes which turned out to be fake.
I’m more on the side of phasing out football altogether on account of brain damage.
2013 publicity stunt where the Jets tried out a woman kicker who had no business ever being on the field. it looked like she had never even kicked before. it must have been some kind of PR stunt by early wokesters. she kicked the ball about 15 yards, wasting everybody’s time.
of course Steve is correct with this stuff. there must be 100 guys or more on every FBS campus who can kick better. guys on other teams. guys who aren’t even on any teams. the NFL thing in particular is nonsense. why would ANY woman ever be considered? there are 100 FBS kickers not in the NFL right now who could play immediately. guys who kicked in FBS games for years, just recently.
like other innumeracy topics, people don’t seem to get this stuff. how deep the field is in most endeavors. the outgroup participants will never be in the big show. the best outgroup person is literally hundreds and hundreds of spots behind average, ‘can’t make it’ prospects from the in group. count up every FBS kicker. every FCS kicker. every D2 kicker. now you’re at 300. and that’s just the start. of the guys kicking, right now. then start adding up the guys who finished a year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago. you’re at 500 better resumes.
She made seven saves against grown men trying out for NHL jobs.Replies: @Rosie, @Dr. DoomNGloom, @S. Anonyia
Agree. This wasn’t even impressive in terms of women’s kicking. It feels so forced. Makes it embarrassing on behalf of actual female athletes. Couldn’t a number of women kick it better? If it was supposed to be a squib kick they should say so. Women aren’t as good as men at sports but we aren’t this awful. That kick was so bad it looks like she couldn’t even make a short field goal.
It helps to have parents who know – before their child is born! – what he will be best-suited for.
This couple bought a $20,000 piano for their unborn son because they knew he would take to it.
They were right.
The kicker?
They’re neither white nor (((white))).
They’re “Tiger Parents.”
Hard to argue with genes and culture:
Your daughter, like all young people, should ignore the current cultural messages about what she should do, which is to focus on a career, and instead decide if she wants to be happy and fulfilled or not. Throughout the ages, what has made women happy has been home and children, and having the support, emotional and financial, of a halfway-decent man. A career is no replacement for that, and anyone who says so is lying.
I recommend George Gissing’s 1892 novel, The Odd Women, to learn the natural situation of girls who aren’t able to attract a husband, aren’t inheriting wealth, and aren’t bright and social enough to be a governess/teacher. Of course, this is happening in a pre-Welfare, pre-Affirmative Action world; a world that’s very likely to return once we’re no longer able to support so many millions of jobs that aren’t really producing anything. Other than drastically lowering the cost of labor, the major success in Feminism is concealing the huge number of superfluous women, and now with so many young women proclaiming their gayness, or at the very least their resentment of men, they positively revel in their superfluousness.
There is “manosphere” (though, I don’t know whether it is active). Chateau Heartiste etc.
I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”
I remember playing something called mass softball — each team can have 20 or 30 players, no problem, and co-ed works fine. Everyone spreads out in the field and everyone bats in your half inning, usually the smaller weaker players first, the bigger men toward the end of the lineup. It’s fun because you can have women and children play right along with the guys, just hide the fielders who are a bit timid.
Women revolve around sex.
So, no man could beat them in that area: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/thestandard/2000115764/this-woman-has-slept-with-the-most-men?amp=1
This woman has slept with the most men
Lisa Sparks an American lady holds the world record of sleeping with the highest number of partners in a day.
She bedded 919 men in less than 24 hours
This was established at a competition between Lisa Sparks and two other women. One of them was the previous record-holder, who banged only 759 men in a day.
I think this is mostly true, but I think a lot of this comes from big donors. The small number of women who want to fight these not just ridiculous but also losing battles are usually getting paid. If the money dries up, this crap would fizzle out.
It seemed to me the young woman did kick the ball in pretty much the intended direction, though actually a bit too hard to bounce around crazily for a possible Vandy recovery. God, if the on-sides kick had worked she would already be a legend up there with Doug Flutie’s Hail Mary.
I’m also pretty certain Mizzou had agreed not to run the kick back under any circumstances, as the fine student-athlete who grabbed it at the 35 could easily have scampered up the sideline. On her follow-through Sarah was already heading off the field and out of danger.
It looked to ME that she squib kicked the ball. If so, probably to avoid the risk of a return where she would either (a) get out of the way, or (b) risk getting absolutely blown up by a blocker.
I bet she can kick the ball further, but was instructed to not do so.Replies: @ben tillman
Yes, she was told to squib it, and she did.
Just another Talking Dog story.
To be fair, sports reporterettes always ask “How did it feel to blah blah blah” no matter the sex of the athlete they are talking to.
Vanderbilt fired their head coach, Derrick Mason, this morning. So for all the PC happy horseshit, guy lost his job, mostly from being coach of a winless 0-8 football team. Not having another person who could kick on a D1 team with 80+ roster spots is embarrassing. Speaks to a guy who was very bad at recruiting.
But shh, nothing to see here folks.Replies: @Barnard
A friend of mine walked on to be the kickoff kicker on the USC freshman football team back when they had freshman teams. But he didn’t make it to to varsity the next season because they used Heisman-candidate running back Anthony Davis to kick off.
No one above has mentioned wrestling as the new unisex sport.Replies: @Cortes
Didn’t Andy Kaufman go in for inter-gender wrestling?
update: the coach was fired.
Soccer's basically the cheapest game there is. Even if you want to play it to a professional grade: balls, boots, shinguards, and goals: that's it. You don't actually need to hold it in stadiums: just do it in public parks. If enough people show up that the police get upset, great!: the university might rethink their decision, or else some businessman might see the opportunity and start renting arenas and selling tickets.
Come on, lads, get on itReplies: @Bragadocious, @Gordo, @Skylark Thibedeau, @Bill Jones
As a kid in Liverpool boots were optional- my toes are not pretty , shinguards were as common as rocking horse shit (as the saying went) and goals were “posts” consisting of sweaters. This was the way of it well into the teens.
No doubt a litany of child abuse today.
College-age Yanks don't wanna be playing with jumpers for goals, but broadly speaking we're on the same page. I mean, how much money does a goal actually cost? It's three bits of wood and a net. You don't need these million-dollar budgets - that's only to pay for the coaches and cheerleaders and stadiums and so on.
So, no man could beat them in that area: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/thestandard/2000115764/this-woman-has-slept-with-the-most-men?amp=1
This woman has slept with the most men
Lisa Sparks an American lady holds the world record of sleeping with the highest number of partners in a day.
She bedded 919 men in less than 24 hours
This was established at a competition between Lisa Sparks and two other women. One of them was the previous record-holder, who banged only 759 men in a day.Replies: @Jtgw, @Alden
Women can be promiscuous but isn’t it well established that men are more promiscuous on average? Men have higher libido due to testosterone, after all.
If a woman wants to be obsessively promiscuous, she can easily heap up 50,000 different partners in, say, 2 decades. No man can even come close.
It's anatomy & physiology.
It isn’t about promiscuity (these women are porn stars). It is about endurance & power. There is no man on good earth who can have sex with a few hundred women in 24 hrs period (actually, one could easily move digits to the left).
If a woman wants to be obsessively promiscuous, she can easily heap up 50,000 different partners in, say, 2 decades. No man can even come close.
It’s anatomy & physiology.
That’s their story and they’re sticking to it.
When I was growing up, I went to a beach club at a small midwestern lake; there were maybe a hundred families. As I recall, every team sport was co-ed, because otherwise there weren’t enough players. The young people played swimming tag, beach volleyball, sailboat racing (and water balloon warfare) and soccer. You played with the kids who were there, ages maybe 10-18, boys and girls. Boys were expected to tone it down; being able to play with girls was enough incentive. Game scores were forgotten by dinnertime.
For grown-ups, the sport was sailing, entirely men as I recall, and it was utterly cutthroat. Results were tabulated from Memorial Day to Labor Day, and your rank was displayed on publicly posted weekly updated computer printouts (1965!) to ten decimal places. Protest hearings were brutal, as many of the captains were lawyers.
The moms contributed meals and refreshments, God bless them. Mrs. Miller, your cinnamon coffee cake still haunts my dreams.
I don’t see how men could be more promiscuous on average since there are about the same number of men and women.
My son played high school soccer so I developed an interest in watching the US women's team. After you get used to the slower play it's fairly entertaining.Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @S. Anonyia, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
I had to read that twice. At first, I thought that you wrote “shower play”.
Jason Whitlock comments:
https://www.facebook.com/jasonwhitlock/videos/toni-harris-is-being-used-as-a-tool-in-the-fake-news-propaganda-machine/2278685068848364/
The best part is near the end, with a couple of Toni Harris “highlight” clips. It looks like she plays way back, where there’s little chance of being involved in the play. In the first clip, she just falls down for no apparent reason. I’m sure NFL scouts are on the lookout for defensive players who try to avoid contact with offensive players.
Did she at least look like Kathy Ireland and shower while protected by a Pacific Islander who refused to peak like a gentleman?
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnAuoALdvvndsmDsEpFmZz1MYpDymPcrciLp0zCg46YjBEXz17
All the North had to do is, you know, not invade. 750,000 White men would have survived.
Or, come up with better solutions on how to deal with the Black population that had been imported 200 years earlier from the 1600s. Regardless of how the South was dealing with a huge Black population, none of that justifies the horror that Lincoln brought, including the destruction of the Constitution.
But New England was composed of gooftards who had read Uncle Tom's Cabin and wanted to spill blood for their sweet Black brothers.Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar
You make every thread about
His little stack of pet troll topics. Car Grease is a troll, and after one has been through the cycle, it’s boring.
I only harp on two points-- but only because nobody here will answer either of them. Do you volunteer to be the first?
1. If HBD is correct, then the plantation economy could not have worked, because the Africans didn't.
2. If the Jews are out to get us, then doesn't it follow that we have to side with William Jennings Bryan against the ACLU? Why do Scopes et al. get a pass?
A corollary to #1-- if blacks were so damned valuable, why didn't either side in the Civil War conscript them? That was about as anti-white a policy as has ever occurred in this country's history. Colored get to play while white boys die.
Again, no answer. Certainly not from the anontrolls.
If I'm wrong, tell me where.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @iDeplorable, @anon
Correct. Basketball is a bad crossover because of the athleticism involved. Whereas in tennis top females could likely compete with hs males and weekend warriors if not beat them routinely. In basketball, your above avg HS squads would embarrass the best women players. Football is even more ridiculous because of the strength involved.
“Lisa Sparks an American lady holds the world record of sleeping with the highest number of partners in a day.
“She bedded 919 men in less than 24 hours”
Such a feat would appear to present considerable logistical issues. In even a full 24-hour day, she would be averaging one “team mate” every 94 seconds. A line 919 men long? Each one primed and ready at the “go” signal? What? – were they using, the Nigerian military? What about misfires? Bath room breaks? Dehydration? Guys immediately falling in love and refusing to leave? Imagine the catastrophe if Mr. 719 failed to clear out before Mr. 720 got the “Go!”
My son played high school soccer so I developed an interest in watching the US women's team. After you get used to the slower play it's fairly entertaining.Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @S. Anonyia, @Boy the way Glenn Miller played, @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
Agreed! Women’s soccer gets a terrible rap by calling it “women’s soccer”. If they called it “schmugawhugha” it would be wonderful. It bears no relationship with soccer whatsoever, and if you watch it hoping to see “soccer” it’s a disappointment. But if you watch it hoping for nothing more that entertainment, it’s actually pretty interesting
In other words it’s not possible.
I did not make it explicit but I was referring to boy’s high level club teams. As you might imagine the guys on those teams are the result of competitive tryouts. Everybody is fast and skillful or they don’t make it.
My son and I suffered years of less than stellar team mates until his ascension to a regionally competitive team. Jack rabbits all of them!
When the women’s national teams play a friendly against a boy’s team they are playing against at nationally ranked squad. I think the reason the coaches agree to play their women vs the boys is the hope that it makes women play faster and smarter.
What a great tailback Davis was! Remember Lou Groza was an offensive tackle, and George Blanda was enough of a QB to have thrown 236 touchdown passes. I just learned that he played 10 years in the NFL and then spent a year in retirement before he attempted his first place-kick in the pros. The advent of the AFL resuscitated his career.
https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/28/sarah-fuller-vanderbilt-kicker-history
QUOTE: Her kickoff was short, but to the disappointment of some haters who were hoping this experiment would flop, that was by design. The coaching staff wanted to keep her kicking motion consistent with what she was accustomed to in soccer, which meant a directional kick with no follow-through.
Right.
Comments here are narrative non-compliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP8OUMW_C58Replies: @Anonymous, @Neuday, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad
LOL. They should have said it was an on-side kick that went too far, that would have been more believable.
No doubt a litany of child abuse today.Replies: @Anonymous, @martin_2, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
Do you mean that you ran around in bare feet?
You are within it as you read this, and were within it as you posted your comment.
All the North had to do is, you know, not invade. 750,000 White men would have survived.
Or, come up with better solutions on how to deal with the Black population that had been imported 200 years earlier from the 1600s. Regardless of how the South was dealing with a huge Black population, none of that justifies the horror that Lincoln brought, including the destruction of the Constitution.
But New England was composed of gooftards who had read Uncle Tom's Cabin and wanted to spill blood for their sweet Black brothers.Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar
I agree. Lincoln’s belief that keeping the half-Negro states in the Union would be beneficial was one of the worst blunders in history. Yet the South had been invading the north (but not Canada, for some strange reason) for generations before that. So he was only following precedent.
SPLS claims blacks actually worked on the plantations, and made the South rich. I’ve been calling them out as goddamn liars.
Who is right?
Which by the way, what did you say decades ago to give support to White South Africa when it was under attack?Replies: @Reg Cæsar
His little stack of pet troll topics. Car Grease is a troll, and after one has been through the cycle, it's boring.
https://positek.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/sign-do-not-feed-trolls-image-from-shutterstock.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar
You and 10,000 others going by “anon”.
I only harp on two points– but only because nobody here will answer either of them. Do you volunteer to be the first?
1. If HBD is correct, then the plantation economy could not have worked, because the Africans didn’t.
2. If the Jews are out to get us, then doesn’t it follow that we have to side with William Jennings Bryan against the ACLU? Why do Scopes et al. get a pass?
A corollary to #1– if blacks were so damned valuable, why didn’t either side in the Civil War conscript them? That was about as anti-white a policy as has ever occurred in this country’s history. Colored get to play while white boys die.
Again, no answer. Certainly not from the anontrolls.
If I’m wrong, tell me where.
As far as evolution is concerned, it's a fact. Evolution can be true and various populations can be hostile to one another. That's expected. There's no contradiction here.
You're playing word games to justify the anti-White agenda.
Lol...nah.
https://www.gifmania.com/Gif-Animados-Objetos/Imagenes-Material-de-Oficina/Tarjeteros/Rolodex-55179.gif
Again, no answer.
No answer for a while. That's a hint, dude.
https://media.giphy.com/media/eivBiysorQQneTiBzc/giphy.gif
If I’m wrong, tell me where.
Ok. Here's a clue for you.
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/crazy-cuckoo-man-28964603.jpg
Who is right?Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Anonymous
I’m sure Southerners thought the Northern armies had shown up to render aid to their racial White brothers.
Which by the way, what did you say decades ago to give support to White South Africa when it was under attack?
2013 publicity stunt where the Jets tried out a woman kicker who had no business ever being on the field. it looked like she had never even kicked before. it must have been some kind of PR stunt by early wokesters. she kicked the ball about 15 yards, wasting everybody's time.of course Steve is correct with this stuff. there must be 100 guys or more on every FBS campus who can kick better. guys on other teams. guys who aren't even on any teams. the NFL thing in particular is nonsense. why would ANY woman ever be considered? there are 100 FBS kickers not in the NFL right now who could play immediately. guys who kicked in FBS games for years, just recently.like other innumeracy topics, people don't seem to get this stuff. how deep the field is in most endeavors. the outgroup participants will never be in the big show. the best outgroup person is literally hundreds and hundreds of spots behind average, 'can't make it' prospects from the in group. count up every FBS kicker. every FCS kicker. every D2 kicker. now you're at 300. and that's just the start. of the guys kicking, right now. then start adding up the guys who finished a year ago, 2 years ago, 3 years ago. you're at 500 better resumes.Replies: @Rouetheday
Did y’all catch the part at 1:10 where the correspondent informs us that the average NFL kickoff is 41.8 yards compared to this woman’s 19 yard kick? That 41.8 figure refers to the spot the ball is placed after the return not the distance the ball traveled from the kickoff spot. That figure must average at least 65 yards, especially if you discount offside kicks and the like from the equation. Was the usage of the 41.8 figure due to incompetence on the part of GMA’s staff, or was it used knowingly for more cynical purposes?
I’m sure I’ve seen team photos from the MEAC and the SWAC where the only white faces were the quarterback and the kickers.
Also, I find it ironic that black athletes, instead of congregating at HBCU, decided to invade white colleges instead. If LSU was all white, do you think they would have a chance against Grambling?
but the Wokeness level is at an all-time high, so trotting a woman out there in garbage time will probably be happening more often. also fact checking is at an all-time low.
Hnida was, naturally, sexually harassed by some of the actual football players.Replies: @ScarletNumber
The qualifier that the stories have made is that this girl was the first female to play for a Power 5 school. UNM is part of the Mountain West Conference, which at the time had BYU and Utah and was just a cunt-hair below the big conferences.
To defend the Lobos, Hnida was raped by one of her teammates when she was on the roster at Colorado, before transferring to New Mexico. The teammate/rapist had invited her over to play video games.
https://twitter.com/WhitlockJason/status/1332554991031246855?s=20
https://twitter.com/ItsMikeHill/status/1332774895663591424?s=20
https://twitter.com/hopesolo/status/1332693093657812992?s=20Replies: @Bugg, @ScarletNumber
I have never heard of Mike Hill before.
Apparently Hope Solo has never heard of a rhetorical question before.
I give Whitlock credit for going after sacred cows. Earlier this year he got criticized for correctly pointing out that if Katie Nolan only has a job in sports “journalism” because of her appearance. Nolan is a fraud who made her bones by being “one of the guys” and not like “the other girls”. Of course, once she reached a modicum level of fame she renounced her previous statements. In other words, she pulled an Amy Schumer.
College football players especially suck. They disrupt classes. Routinely. And with impunity. They make college a hell and a torture. To hell with college football players.
This is an outrage!Replies: @Alden
https://www.facebook.com/jasonwhitlock/videos/toni-harris-is-being-used-as-a-tool-in-the-fake-news-propaganda-machine/2278685068848364/
The best part is near the end, with a couple of Toni Harris “highlight” clips. It looks like she plays way back, where there’s little chance of being involved in the play. In the first clip, she just falls down for no apparent reason. I’m sure NFL scouts are on the lookout for defensive players who try to avoid contact with offensive players.Replies: @ScarletNumber
To be fair, Deion Sanders also met this description, although he made up for it in other ways.
1. An out of bounds kickoff is placed at the 35 (where Fuller’s kickoff was fielded) or where it goes out of bounds, whichever is better for the receiving team. Absolutely there are a dozen guys on the team (surely including the punter) who could consistently kick it that distance and out of bounds off of a tee with a couple hours practice.
2. 90% of college placekickers are horrible and mathematically their teams are better off never kicking FGs (ie going for it on fourth down is optimal) except in end-of-half scenarios. Going for 2 on every PAT is suboptimal (since the college try is from 3 yards) but not a huge loss.
So yes, this was all a huge publicity stunt by a coach who was out the door (fired just yesterday).
Also, I find it ironic that black athletes, instead of congregating at HBCU, decided to invade white colleges instead. If LSU was all white, do you think they would have a chance against Grambling?Replies: @black sea, @Skylark Thibedeau
I remember reading years ago about a White player at Morehouse College. To add to the irony, he was a running back.
Sanders teammates on the Falcons would tease him about his aversion to contact. They called it a “homey tackle.” Deion evidently took this kind of ribbing quite well, and laughed about it himself.
Or, to set the kicker up to be the next victim. Would anyone be surprised at this point?
By the way, I didn’t even know about this gang-rape case until I read your comment.
They want us to know about the kicker though. Says it all.
What? College football players routinely going to class?
This is an outrage!
("u15" which is "under 15" but due to the rules is actually under 16, in spite of the name... or something)
This thread has some somewhat decent discussion in the comments:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/63ajk7/fc_dallas_u15s_beat_us_womens_national_team_52_in/
(this one is briefer and also touches on pay https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/638oy4/fcd_u15s_scrimmage_us_womens_national_team_ahead/ )Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Barnard, @Yawrate, @Polynikes
It’s common for D1 girls basketball teams to have an all male practice squad. From my experience playing against those guys in intramurals most of them couldn’t make their HS teams. Going up against stronger and faster, but less skilled, opponents in practice is enough to push the female players.
You’re right; don’t have first-had knowledge of her instructions.
I only harp on two points-- but only because nobody here will answer either of them. Do you volunteer to be the first?
1. If HBD is correct, then the plantation economy could not have worked, because the Africans didn't.
2. If the Jews are out to get us, then doesn't it follow that we have to side with William Jennings Bryan against the ACLU? Why do Scopes et al. get a pass?
A corollary to #1-- if blacks were so damned valuable, why didn't either side in the Civil War conscript them? That was about as anti-white a policy as has ever occurred in this country's history. Colored get to play while white boys die.
Again, no answer. Certainly not from the anontrolls.
If I'm wrong, tell me where.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @iDeplorable, @anon
HBD can be correct and a certain population be good at some things and bad at others. That’s kind of the point.
I have no idea what this means. Edward Teller liked Americans and he was Jewish. Lots of Jews like America. But of course, quite a few don’t like White folks, sadly, the most politically active. We know this because they say so.
As far as evolution is concerned, it’s a fact. Evolution can be true and various populations can be hostile to one another. That’s expected. There’s no contradiction here.
You’re playing word games to justify the anti-White agenda.
The high school I follow had a girl kicker from the soccer team kick extra points a few years ago. She was quite good at that limited role and she came within three points of the state record for points scored by a girl for a season in football as the offense featured a running back who would go to Alabama and they scored a lot (he plays now for a second tier Florida D1 school, he also handled the kickoffs and punting). But she never even tried a field goal and when we got into the state playoffs and needed that option the coach just went for it on 4th and long inside the opponent’s 20 and we got no points (and lost the game).
No one gave a thought to what she might do outside that limited role until it was crunch time and then the coach had no other options.
BTW I am of the firm belief that neither the women’s Olympic basketball champions or the WNBA champs could stay within 20 points of any HS boys state championship caliber team.
What about that girl that kicked for Duke about 20 yrs ago? Did she not count as a power 5 player?
Duke and Vandy being equilavently sucky in their histories of football.
Who is right?Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Anonymous
What is your evidence?
Blocking it right back down her throat would have been funny but I’m pretty sure Mizzou had gladly agreed to let Vandy pull this stunt (or perhaps was under orders from the conference), and they would not have tried to block any female FG or PAT unless perhaps the game was tied late. It seemed they had agreed not to run back the one kickoff Conner got to do, as the player who caught it appeared to have plenty of open field but just took a knee.
Do you have a specific proposal?
I only harp on two points-- but only because nobody here will answer either of them. Do you volunteer to be the first?
1. If HBD is correct, then the plantation economy could not have worked, because the Africans didn't.
2. If the Jews are out to get us, then doesn't it follow that we have to side with William Jennings Bryan against the ACLU? Why do Scopes et al. get a pass?
A corollary to #1-- if blacks were so damned valuable, why didn't either side in the Civil War conscript them? That was about as anti-white a policy as has ever occurred in this country's history. Colored get to play while white boys die.
Again, no answer. Certainly not from the anontrolls.
If I'm wrong, tell me where.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @iDeplorable, @anon
Only 6,300 comments in 2020? Come on Grease, you can top last year’s 7,633! Give us another 1,300 stupid, inane, unfunny, off-topic, idiotic bleatings of a senile old woman.
Vandy coach fired, the timing seems like stupid-bad PR — why dump on the poor guy with just one or two games left in the season, and right after the “feel-good” spotlight was on the school? True he was 27-55 there but did eke out two 6-6 seasons good for trips to crappy bowl games, a rarity there.
The outgoing coach honorably praised his players — “and one courageous female,” which seems to be stretching the definition of courage a bit.
I had caught Mizzou’s game the week before, and the studio “analysts” doing the SEC round-up segments were praising this coach to the hilt for how Vandy had been improving and playing hard despite the winless record. Oh well …
For proof of the power of PC, witness the complete lack of interest in the fact pretty much every black head coach in NCAA football has been a spectacular failure. There are a couple – Ty Willingham at Stanford, the Texas A&M guy a few years back – that were average to slightly above average, but this Mason guy, Mike London at Virginia, Willie Taggart at Florida State…so many were not just bad, but bad. James Franklin is busy running Pedophile State into the ground. Mike Locksley has people laughing at Maryland.
But shh, nothing to see here folks.
“Sounds very stylish” — Dirty Harry
Also, I find it ironic that black athletes, instead of congregating at HBCU, decided to invade white colleges instead. If LSU was all white, do you think they would have a chance against Grambling?Replies: @black sea, @Skylark Thibedeau
Nope. Grambling and Jackson State produced more all pro and HOF players in the 60’s than LSU or Ole Miss.
I went to a college with a very good football team. Had 3 entry level courses containing football players. I wouldn’t call them disruptive, though they did get “study guides” which basically gave them the answers to the tests. Some fraternities received these “study guides,” too. Also a certain football player actually asked/answered questions in large lecture hall class frequently (to the point where it was annoying) while wearing fake nerd glasses and sitting up front in the very first row. At first I assumed he was being disruptive/sarcastic but I actually think he was “trying to set a good example” for the team or something like that, possibly overcompensating for other lazier players in the class. None of them had to attend lab.
Another football player lived in my apartment complex, and threw wild parties that attracted high schoolers and community college students. There were a lot of fights that spilled over into the parking lot. Pretty good entertainment when you’re 20/21…
One other thing that no one has touched upon:
The Vanderbilt coach has openly insulted his players. Essentially, he has told his team that they couldn’t possibly compete in this game, to the extent that if the result came down to a kick for points, the coach preferred rostering a walking virtue signal to someone who actually had a chance to help his players (who are, frankly, risking life and limb) win.
I played high level collegiate sport, and I would have lost all respect for any coach who essentially showed me he thought we had no chance, that we didn’t belong on then field against our opponent.
This is contemptible.
https://floridagators.com/sports/womens-lacrosse/roster/makenzie-mason/10647Replies: @vhrm
I found an oldie, Center, Ray Mansfield kicks two extra points in a playoff game after Roy Gerela injured. Probably no-one on sideline including Chuck Noll, looked less like the guy who would come out to kick the PAT
I was in grad school at DePaul back in the mid-aughts and had student seasons tickets for the mens’ basketball team. Often, the women’s volleyball team would sit in our section and we got to know some of the girls.
This was when DePaul was back in then old Big East, 16 teams and only 4 of them in the Midwest. Well, guess what? The women played the same schedule, basically, as the men’s sports – flying to the East Coast once or twice a week to play Georgetown or Rutgers or whomever, in front of a hundred paying customers. Throw in a dozen scholarships, lodging, insurance … it had to cost the school a fortune.
So, yeah, volleyball – like soccer – is at face an inexpensive participation sport, that’s just the beginning of the investment.
When Conference USA was founded in 1995, its calling card was that all of its 12 teams were in different states. So they went from Marquette down to Houston and over to South Florida.
This is what a top-notch field goal kicker looks like (Harrison Butker of the Kansas City Chiefs):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYiCB44dfcReplies: @Hypnotoad666, @Russ
Leftist sportswriters are shining up her effort as the most perfectly executed squib kick since George Halas was involved with the Decatur Staleys.
Never mentioned is that George Blanda booted his last field goal at age 48.
Thanks for the Butker video.
Remember that Mizzou gave us Michael Sam, the gay defensive player too slow to play linebacker and too small to play defensive line in the NFL. The NFL made a huge show out of the Rams drafting him, and then cutting him in training camp through maximized PR finesse (in probably a prelude to the Rams’ winning approval to return to L.A.). Sam then went to the CFL, and despite playing in a league/country that would’ve bent over forward to ensure his success quit from emotional distress. So it is that Mizzou again Makes History.
Some anti-Lombardi advice:
“A loss is a win if you’re nice!”
So a joke and a zero
To the Woke is a hero
When political points will suffice.
Colleges and universities are required under Title IX to spend equal amounts on women sports (for the relatively small proportion of students/fans interested in them) and men sports (massively popular with many male students and fans across a broad range of sports). Hence lots of traditional men’s sports teams including Vanderbilt men’s soccer team had to be closed to comply with the equal-spending cap. That is why they had to use this women soccer player with her quite weak kick.
The US women’s Olympic soccer team lost to a local boys’ high school age team in Texas.
No doubt a litany of child abuse today.Replies: @Anonymous, @martin_2, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
The advantage that Soccer has over other team sports is that it is possible to play a game with just a few players, and no special apparel or equipment is required . As you say, one needs just four jumpers for goalposts and a ball. The rules are relatively simple too. These reasons must be why it has become popular throughout the world, and perhaps more so in the most impoverished regions.
"She bedded 919 men in less than 24 hours"
Such a feat would appear to present considerable logistical issues. In even a full 24-hour day, she would be averaging one "team mate" every 94 seconds. A line 919 men long? Each one primed and ready at the "go" signal? What? - were they using, the Nigerian military? What about misfires? Bath room breaks? Dehydration? Guys immediately falling in love and refusing to leave? Imagine the catastrophe if Mr. 719 failed to clear out before Mr. 720 got the "Go!"Replies: @martin_2, @Bardon Kaldian
She looks awful, actually. Did they recruit a convention for the blind?
The US women's Olympic soccer team lost to a local boys' high school age team in Texas.Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Dr. DoomNGloom
A similar loss happened in Australia as well, the score was 7-0.
I should have mentioned that another advantage for Soccer is that the spectators can actually see the bloody ball!
You’d play football in bare feet rather than dirty or, God forbid, scuff the shoes.
The US women's Olympic soccer team lost to a local boys' high school age team in Texas.Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Dr. DoomNGloom
This was not technically true, but is now effectively true because of administrative decisions. The Obama years were especially authoritarian WRT stretching federal authority via Title IX. They accomplished, with compliant proxies, the kind civil liberty atrocities that government could never have gotten away with.
With women now outnumbering men, I fully expect the Biden administration to require spending proportional to the general college population. Part of me hopes they kill college football. I expect the blow back will be the political activation of right wing men who used to take out their territorial aggression by supporting their college team. If they turn their guns on left wing pols, I would find it both ironic and hilarious.
Because some men get more women than other men, dummy. Just a visit to the local bar or club will confirm this. Any guy who ever went to high school would know that. Who is banging the Prom Queen? Not Average Joe boy or geek boy, but jock boy or cool/rich boy.
But shh, nothing to see here folks.Replies: @Barnard
Former Chicago Bears head coach Lovie Smith is currently struggling at Illinois. He did have some success with the Bears but has a 17-37 record at Illinois in five seasons at Illinois including this partial one. His only bowl appearance was a 35-20 loss in the Redbox Bowl to California last year to finish with a 6-7 record and 4 Big Ten wins. Smith is 62 and will most likely be allowed to continue with these results until he decides to retire in a few years.
I’ll give Sam a pass for all the gay PC PR BS, as he was a terrific player for Mizzou, just didn’t fit the pro mold or something. That was before all the Ferguson crap hit the fan at my dear old alma mater and things went seriously downhill. People forget that the Tigers were threatening to boycott a big game and cost people real money well before Colin K and fellow NFL blax began their feeble kneeling
This was the actual Tweet she sent out when her husband went into the game. I swear I am not making this up…
This sounds like torture.
I only harp on two points-- but only because nobody here will answer either of them. Do you volunteer to be the first?
1. If HBD is correct, then the plantation economy could not have worked, because the Africans didn't.
2. If the Jews are out to get us, then doesn't it follow that we have to side with William Jennings Bryan against the ACLU? Why do Scopes et al. get a pass?
A corollary to #1-- if blacks were so damned valuable, why didn't either side in the Civil War conscript them? That was about as anti-white a policy as has ever occurred in this country's history. Colored get to play while white boys die.
Again, no answer. Certainly not from the anontrolls.
If I'm wrong, tell me where.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @iDeplorable, @anon
I only harp on two points
Lol…nah.
Again, no answer.
No answer for a while. That’s a hint, dude.
If I’m wrong, tell me where.
Ok. Here’s a clue for you.
There’s video of Sarah Fuller taking practice placekicks from the spot where a PAT would have been attempted.
Duke and Vandy being equilavently sucky in their histories of football.Replies: @ScarletNumber
She tried out and was named team manager, but she was never on the team per se, never mind a player in a game.
The Vanderbilt coach has openly insulted his players. Essentially, he has told his team that they couldn't possibly compete in this game, to the extent that if the result came down to a kick for points, the coach preferred rostering a walking virtue signal to someone who actually had a chance to help his players (who are, frankly, risking life and limb) win.
I played high level collegiate sport, and I would have lost all respect for any coach who essentially showed me he thought we had no chance, that we didn't belong on then field against our opponent.
This is contemptible.Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Alden
If it makes you feel better, Derek Mason was fired after the game. Also, his daughter Makenzie played lacrosse at Florida. Here is her bio. I will leave the comments on her appearance as an exercise for the reader.
https://floridagators.com/sports/womens-lacrosse/roster/makenzie-mason/10647
This was a somewhat inane stunt, but the fault for the hype lies with the mindlessly woke press.
Extending condemnation to the coach's daughter seems a bit much. Also how much do any of us control how we look anyway? She's a random college lacrosse player, not a model, and she's probably above average for that cohort.Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Alden
The Vanderbilt coach has openly insulted his players. Essentially, he has told his team that they couldn't possibly compete in this game, to the extent that if the result came down to a kick for points, the coach preferred rostering a walking virtue signal to someone who actually had a chance to help his players (who are, frankly, risking life and limb) win.
I played high level collegiate sport, and I would have lost all respect for any coach who essentially showed me he thought we had no chance, that we didn't belong on then field against our opponent.
This is contemptible.Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Alden
But Vanderbilt lost 41-0, very unusual. Coach fired the next day. That team has a lot more problems than one weak kick. Poor guys, all the work and doubtful any pro team scouts will recruit Vanderbilt players this year.
This is an outrage!Replies: @Alden
There were athletes in my college classes. They behaved same as anyone else.
So, no man could beat them in that area: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/thestandard/2000115764/this-woman-has-slept-with-the-most-men?amp=1
This woman has slept with the most men
Lisa Sparks an American lady holds the world record of sleeping with the highest number of partners in a day.
She bedded 919 men in less than 24 hours
This was established at a competition between Lisa Sparks and two other women. One of them was the previous record-holder, who banged only 759 men in a day.Replies: @Jtgw, @Alden
Another dirty old man chimes in with his favorite topic.
https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/28/sarah-fuller-vanderbilt-kicker-history
QUOTE: Her kickoff was short, but to the disappointment of some haters who were hoping this experiment would flop, that was by design. The coaching staff wanted to keep her kicking motion consistent with what she was accustomed to in soccer, which meant a directional kick with no follow-through.
Right.
Comments here are narrative non-compliant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP8OUMW_C58Replies: @Anonymous, @Neuday, @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad
Is there a lower form of life than these sports writers and announcers.
“about to put her right foot into a football, and speak volumes to women around the world“.
Even there regular “making history” blather is ridiculous. C’mon it’s sports.
But when they think they get on the PC train … it’s just cloyingly, pathetically stupid.
https://twitter.com/35Ayres/status/1231391246834376704Replies: @AnotherDad
Classy.
If college football/basketball teams were composed of “the guy a table over in your bio lab”, it would be kind of a cool, fun activity.
But that’s not who college football teams are composed of. Students and alumni should show some self-respect and ignore this nonsense until it is shut down.
This was when DePaul was back in then old Big East, 16 teams and only 4 of them in the Midwest. Well, guess what? The women played the same schedule, basically, as the men's sports - flying to the East Coast once or twice a week to play Georgetown or Rutgers or whomever, in front of a hundred paying customers. Throw in a dozen scholarships, lodging, insurance ... it had to cost the school a fortune.
So, yeah, volleyball - like soccer - is at face an inexpensive participation sport, that's just the beginning of the investment.Replies: @ScarletNumber
As it stands, half of the Big East is in the midwest, while the other half is in the northeast. So DePaul still makes all of those trips for the non-revenue sports. At least the conference is smart enough to make those long road trips back-to-back, i.e. last year volleyball played at Georgetown and Villanova on a Friday and Saturday, and at Seton Hall and St. John’s the following Friday and Saturday, so that’s an easy bus ride in between.
When Conference USA was founded in 1995, its calling card was that all of its 12 teams were in different states. So they went from Marquette down to Houston and over to South Florida.
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2020/11/30/vanderbilt-kicker-sarah-fuller-sec-special-teams-player-week/6465997002/
Looking at Vanderbilt’s schedule…
First game of the season, they lost a close game at Texas A&M (now ranked #5 in the nation)
Last week, they had a first quarter lead at home against Florida (now ranked #6 in the nation)
Vanderbilt is certainly an underdog in the SEC, but it’s not like they’re totally uncompetitive.
I’d be fascinated to know what the rest of the team really thinks about this whole event. Particularly the punter, who I’m pretty sure could net more than 30 yards on a kickoff consistently.
The announcer is a hopeless mangina.
https://floridagators.com/sports/womens-lacrosse/roster/makenzie-mason/10647Replies: @vhrm
Normal? Moderately cute?
This was a somewhat inane stunt, but the fault for the hype lies with the mindlessly woke press.
Extending condemnation to the coach’s daughter seems a bit much. Also how much do any of us control how we look anyway? She’s a random college lacrosse player, not a model, and she’s probably above average for that cohort.
Anyway, judging by the team picture of the Florida women's lacrosse team, they seem to be comprised of models. Some of them are stunningly pretty, and they're all in great shape. Makenzie Mason is definitely below average.
I could be wrong, but I believe that a punt is more of a challenge than a place kick.
Vandy’s losing team kicked multiple punts during the game; a functional punter existed.
Thus the girl’s place kick was pure PR by a losing coach who was about to be fired.
QED.
I said on average you idiot.The human race is roughly 50/50 male-female so men could not be promiscuous than women.I guess didn’t do very well in math class.
"She bedded 919 men in less than 24 hours"
Such a feat would appear to present considerable logistical issues. In even a full 24-hour day, she would be averaging one "team mate" every 94 seconds. A line 919 men long? Each one primed and ready at the "go" signal? What? - were they using, the Nigerian military? What about misfires? Bath room breaks? Dehydration? Guys immediately falling in love and refusing to leave? Imagine the catastrophe if Mr. 719 failed to clear out before Mr. 720 got the "Go!"Replies: @martin_2, @Bardon Kaldian
This was a somewhat inane stunt, but the fault for the hype lies with the mindlessly woke press.
Extending condemnation to the coach's daughter seems a bit much. Also how much do any of us control how we look anyway? She's a random college lacrosse player, not a model, and she's probably above average for that cohort.Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Alden
White Knight to the rescue!
Anyway, judging by the team picture of the Florida women’s lacrosse team, they seem to be comprised of models. Some of them are stunningly pretty, and they’re all in great shape. Makenzie Mason is definitely below average.
And often the callousness. They endanger other people in some cases, like the military. By the way, huge parts of the military are purely an affirmative action social program.
Why would a young White man risk his life for a system that hates him?Replies: @Anonymous, @415 reasons, @Jtgw, @Reg Cæsar, @Kronos, @Desiderius, @V. K. Ovelund
Comradeship is a masculine trait. The corresponding feminine trait acts to dissolve masculine bonds of comradeship via a series of fitness tests.
The girl in question probably thought that it would just be cool to kick a football in an NCAA game—and she’s right: it was cool. I assume that, consciously, she meant no harm, but it would have been preferable that she not be invited to kick.
Football is fun because it’s a lot of boys slamming into one another. Before World War G, we used to understand this.
Ironically, when masculine institutions are demasculinized, normal women dislike the results as much as anyone does; but to ask a particular young woman to reject a particular opportunity that has wrongly been offered to her is asking too much.
Good question. Our leaders should be asking it.
This was a somewhat inane stunt, but the fault for the hype lies with the mindlessly woke press.
Extending condemnation to the coach's daughter seems a bit much. Also how much do any of us control how we look anyway? She's a random college lacrosse player, not a model, and she's probably above average for that cohort.Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Alden
She’s very pretty. Perfect longish oval face with a pointy chin slim nose for her type. She has a prettier face than most of the models seen in Vogue magazine. Of course she’s young and most young people are attractive.
I feel like we’re not on the same page. Why do they need coaches, scholarships, etc? Just get some kids in the park playing sports.
No doubt a litany of child abuse today.Replies: @Anonymous, @martin_2, @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
And I bet you had to walk thru six feet of snow both ways ‘fore and after, right pal? 🙂
College-age Yanks don’t wanna be playing with jumpers for goals, but broadly speaking we’re on the same page. I mean, how much money does a goal actually cost? It’s three bits of wood and a net. You don’t need these million-dollar budgets – that’s only to pay for the coaches and cheerleaders and stadiums and so on.
Which by the way, what did you say decades ago to give support to White South Africa when it was under attack?Replies: @Reg Cæsar
That grand apartheid was a fine idea, but petit apartheid was impossible. White South Africa was killed by pollution. Too many blacks were let into the territory.
2. 90% of college placekickers are horrible and mathematically their teams are better off never kicking FGs (ie going for it on fourth down is optimal) except in end-of-half scenarios. Going for 2 on every PAT is suboptimal (since the college try is from 3 yards) but not a huge loss.
So yes, this was all a huge publicity stunt by a coach who was out the door (fired just yesterday).Replies: @ScarletNumber
Close. If the receiving team chooses the spot-out-of-bounds option, the receiving team gets an additional five yards. As a practical matter, the officials make the decision, i.e. if the kickoff goes out-of-bounds past the 30, the ball gets placed at the 35, while if it doesn’t make it as far as the 30, the receiving team gets the 5-yard bonus.
This is in no way true, but I’m willing to see the math to prove me wrong.
It’s harder to model this sort of stuff for college teams given the much looser connectivity of teams, the differing rules, etc. But taking the NFL as a point of reference, this online fourth-down modeler says that the Giants (one of the league’s worst offenses) should be going for it from the 20 yard line against the Eagles (a so-so defense) on 4th-and-5 or closer.
In general college football tilts more towards the offense than the NFL and the kickers are considerably worse (just picking a semi-decent team off the top of my head, Michigan’s kicker is a senior who has played for 4 years but is only 71.4% on 30-39 yard field goals in his career, compared to 90+% for NFL kickers) so I’d expect FGs to be suboptimal the vast majority of the time in the college game.
The vast majority of NCAA FBS FG kickers simply aren't good enough to justify their usage in most scenarios.
The 20% lower rate of conversions on mid-range FGs is equivalent to surrendering 0.6 points on a FGA in the situation above, which is somewhere between 1-2 percentage points of win equity. In the Giants-Eagles sim above, taking 1-2 percentage points of win equity off the FG attempt pushes the break-even down-and-distance at the 20 from 4th-and-5 to 4th-and-somewhere between 9 and 16.
The vast majority of NCAA FBS FG kickers simply aren’t good enough to justify their usage in most scenarios.