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On Purim, the mayor of Beverly Hills, John Mirisch, has declared “Sacramento politicians” who want to upzone Beverly Hills to be the new Haman to be blot out (by noisemakers). From Wikipedia:

Haman (Hebrew: המן‎ Hâmân; also known as Haman the Agagite or Haman the evil) is the main antagonist in the Book of Esther, who, according to the Hebrew Bible, was a vizier in the Persian empire under King Ahasuerus, traditionally identified as Xerxes I (died 465 BCE). As his name indicates, Haman was a descendant of Agag, the king of the Amalekites, a people who were wiped out in certain areas by King Saul and David. …

The Jewish holiday of Purim commemorates the story of the deliverance of the Jews and the defeat of Haman.

75,000 followers of Haman were killed.

On that day, the Book of Esther is read publicly and much noise and tumult is raised at every mention of Haman′s name. A type of ratchet noisemaker called in Hebrew a ra’ashan (רעשן) (in Yiddish: “grogger” or “hamandreyer”) is used to express disdain for Haman.

http://beverlyhills.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=49&clip_id=6517

Mayor Mirisch said:

“Some of the bills coming from the state legislature are a war on single family housing, which “Sacramento politicians” [spins noisemaker] consider to be inherently racist and immoral. Effectively, they are attempting to use the affordable housing crisis to eliminate single-family zoning.”

 
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  1. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:

    Let’s have some Haman Rights.

  2. Clyde says:

    lol….. Going by wiki this mayor is 1/4 Jewish via a grandfather and identifies as Swedish-American.
    What I learned today
    AOC is 5’4″ tall
    Wicked Kamala is 5′ 2″

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    , @Pericles
  3. If the mayor can put to fire and sword Sacramento, it would be a good start…

  4. Dtbb says:

    I have learned more about jews and jewish culture since last July, when I started reading this blog, than in my 54 years on earth beforehand.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  5. J.Ross says: • Website

    So this is comparing affordable housing to genocide. Classy. How do Jews like this guy get away with being an awful gilded age caricature of a rich — oh, right, they launch witch hunts against white people.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  6. King Ahasuerus, traditionally identified as Xerxes I

    Does this mean we’ll have to exhume Edward Lear to revise his nonsense alphabets?

  7. OT

    Looks like Omar succeeded in shifting the Overton Window on the the subject of the Zio-state within her party:

    “Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Beto O’Rourke, Pete Buttigieg, Jay Inslee, and Julian Castro have all confirmed they won’t attend the pro-Israel [AIPAC] conference this year.”

    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/8xyj5a/2020-democrats-are-dropping-like-flies-from-pro-israel-aipac-conference

    UPDATE: Now Kirstin Gillibrand won’t attend either. So far, that leaves Chuck & Nancy, neither of whom are running for president.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @J.Ross
    , @Lot
  8. Ed says:

    So the Jews of Beverly Hills, most of whom are Democrats don’t want affordable housing in their midst. This should be entertaining.

    • Replies: @Flip
  9. Anon[288] • Disclaimer says:

    The new Jewish mayor of Minneapolis recently worked to eliminate single family zoning throughout the entire city. What was once one of the nation’s best cities is going to be very different in twenty years.

    In terms of Purim ritual, it must be nice to be able to map anyone you dislike onto genocidal religious mythology. What a non-hateful religion Judaism is.

    • Replies: @BigDickNick
  10. AndrewR says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Impressive. IIRC, Bernie was the only one who didn’t prostrate himself before AIPAC last time.

  11. Blotting out names is a bit extreme. Why not just put several sets of parentheses around them?

  12. “A type of ratchet noisemaker” applies to Bari Weiss, coincidentally.

  13. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Digital Samizdat

    Wow. Mueller investigation fraud collapses, big SPLC news, and the New Democrats spurn AIPAC. Still an hour and a half for Ginsburg to slip on a banana peel.

  14. Oy vey goyim, no human is illegal. we’re a nation of immigrants. What? You want to put them where? wah, theres…theres just no room for more people here, you see. What are you, crazy? It’s too crowded already!!!!!! We’d love to, but there just isn’t any space!!!

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  15. @Anon

    Their non-hateful nature explains why they’ve historically had such great relations with their neighbors!

  16. MEH 0910 says:

    Beverly Hills Song at swearing in Mayor Mirisch on March 20, 2019

    Published on Mar 21, 2019
    Some towns have unique ways of swearing in the mayor. Performed March 20, 2019 at the swearing in of John Mirisch as Mayor of Beverly Hills

  17. Anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dtbb

    I have learned more about jews and jewish culture since last July, when I started reading this blog, than in my 54 years on earth beforehand.

    Wikipedia describes Mirisch as American-Swedish. He holds dual American and Swedish nationality. Yet everyone wants to be Jewish nowadays.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  18. I’m with Beverly Hills on this one. Well, not the genocide part.

    Does it really make sense to build affordable housing in Beverly Hills?

    Possible compromise is to encourage servant housing incorporated into properties. The smart play if the law requires affordable housing is to make sure that the application process is rather high agency so that the beneficiaries happen to be struggling, attractive actresses, “impoverished” grandmothers from Tehran, affluent people who earn low wages at non-profits, Hollywood “interns”, assorted mogul side pieces and Instagram models who don’t report their Patreon income to the IRS.

    There is a “win/win” here.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    , @ivvenalis
  19. Svigor says:

    Yeah Purim is where Jews celebrate the greatest genocide they pulled off…at the time of the writing of the OT.

    Pretty much all their holidays are like that. Not sure if there are any that aren’t.

  20. Svigor says:

    Mayor guy looks a lot like Harold Ramis in that pic. Was gonna bring up my “Jews have a very small genetic deck” thing again, but he looks different in every other pic I saw.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  21. Classic pretend-partisans: one lot yowl about protecting “single-family homes” (formerly known as “houses” when people spoke the king’s English), the other lot mewl about the need for “affordable homes.” Both insist theirs is the better approach to a so-called “housing crisis” (known as “overpopulation” previously; see supra).

    Ctrl + “migr” = { }

    Not a word about it. Anyway there is no overpopulation, and certainly adding more humans to finite land affects nothing. All we really know is there is just a “crisis” … caused by … well … it’s mysterious, dammit! Look, if we had any notion what might be causing the crisis we of course could work to abate it, but it’s the goddamnedest enigma ever, like the weak force or anti-matter.

    • Replies: @Lot
  22. Dr. X says:

    75,000 followers of Haman were killed.

    No. Not “followers of Haman,” but rather, “enemies of the Jews”:

    “Now in the twelfth month, which is the month Adar, on the thirteenth day of the same, when the king’s commandment and his decree drew near to be put in execution, on the day that the enemies of the Jews hoped to have rule over them… the Jews gathered themselves together in their cities throughout all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus… and no man could withstand them; for the fear of them was fallen upon all the peoples.

    And all the princes of the provinces, and the satraps, and the governors, and they that did the king’s business, helped the Jews; because the fear of Mordecai was fallen upon them … And the Jews smote all their enemies with the stroke of the sword, and with slaughter and destruction, and did what they would unto them that hated them. And in Shushan the palace the Jews slew and destroyed five hundred men. ” (Esther 9:2-6)

    After that, Haman and his ten sons were hanged (Esther 9:13), and the Jews went out to the provinces and slew 75,000 of their “enemies” (Esther 9:16).

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Boethiuss
    , @Jack D
  23. Meanwhile, bored identity is so proud of President Trump clever decision to finally recognize Russian sovereignty over the Crimea, which is of critical strategic and security importance to the Russian Federation and Regional Stability.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  24. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Dr. X

    But it’s understood that these are people who are related to Haman, obeying him, supporting him, and probably directly benefitting from his anti-Jewish policies. It’s one family-clan-tribe competing with another.

  25. Lot says:

    Steve you can laugh at them now, but wait until a triplex goes up on each of the single family lots next to your house, and then they take your Prop 13 valuation away and your property tax quadruples.

    BH is its own city with its own anti-development local government that will slow walk and code inspect to death attempts by Sacramento to force multifamily onto single family areas. Once LA gets an actual Mexican-Mexican mayor again, and city council majority, I don’t see it putting up that same degree of resistance.

  26. Lot says:
    @Autochthon

    “Both insist theirs is the better approach to a so-called housing crisis”

    The California NIMBY homeowner “left” I have to admit are pretty hilarious in their really bad attempts to pretend they aren’t reactionary bourgeoisie.

    Usually goes like this:

    Developers suck!

    The new housing they want to put in won’t actually be affordable!

    Open space is important for the environment!

    It will increase traffic, also very bad for the environment!

    All that said, “affordable housing” and killing local zoning rules is still an overall attack on California’s mostly Trump-voting white homeowners. The highest profile fighting may be in BH and Malibu, but the losers will be rank and file middle class homeowners.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Pericles
  27. Lot says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Time to put some money on Joe Biden winning the Dem nomination?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Desiderius
  28. Boethiuss says:
    @Dr. X

    No. Not “followers of Haman,” but rather, “enemies of the Jews”:

    Yeah yeah yeah. The median commenter here at unz and futher Right (and the far Left) Internet likes to complain about the (((Jews))) and the (((Jewish Question))) and (((Every Single Time))) and all the rest of it.

    It’s tiresome by now. To be honest I don’t know what I think about the Jews. Sometimes I like them, other times I don’t I suppose. But I do know that none of the fullthroated defenders of the gentile/Christian West intends to do a damn thing about it anyway, so what’s the point?

    The one thing that we can do is vote Republican and organize around the Republican Party as the means to represent Core American interests and values, but we can’t be bothered to get up off our ass long enough to do that. Why are we supposed to care what the Jews are doing?

  29. Anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Mayor guy looks a lot like Harold Ramis in that pic. Was gonna bring up my “Jews have a very small genetic deck” thing again, but he looks different in every other pic I saw.

    He is an American-Swede. Look it up. Everyone is trying to be Jewish these days.

  30. Anoj says:

    Funny and clever way to draw attention to an issue. But he needs to go full Saul Alinsky and name one to three legislators who need to be deemployed, and go nuclear on them.

  31. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Lot

    I would be very surprised but pleased if this happened. Biden is not only a white male, he’s a legitimate illustration of privilege elevating incompetence.

    • Replies: @CCZ
  32. John Mirisch is an interesting guy.

    He is from a multi-generational Beverly Hills film industry family.

    He has been involved in Beverly Hills city politics for years, even though he’s not that old.

    He is Swedish.

    He is a Republican.

    (BTW, the mayor’s position in B.H. rotates every year or so among the five city council members. It’s not that big a deal.)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  33. @Justice Duvall

    I think the pretenders to the Ottoman throne these days are pretty Swedish.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    , @Pericles
  34. anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Well, the middle class did help vote these politicians in. In affluent SF, there is some delightful schadenfreude.

    https://www.city-journal.org/embarcadero-homeless-shelter

  35. Not Raul says:
    @Anonymous

    How much Viking blood does this Mirisch guy have? I’m sure having a Swedish passport has some benefits; but if he’s an actual Swede, I’m Shaka Zulu. Maybe he collects passports, like Marc Rich did.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    , @Pericles
  36. Not Raul says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The pretenders to the Ottoman throne are probably more Swedish than Mirisch is.

  37. CCZ says:
    @J.Ross

    Go Joe!!

    https://joebiden.info/

    Maybe this should be his campaign website!!

  38. eah says:

  39. tyrone says:
    @bored identity

    Domestic policy …… foreign policy……it’s all one big fun house these days.

  40. @Anonymous

    He is an American-Swede. Look it up. Everyone is trying to be Jewish these days.

    Yeah, yeah, Steve Sailer wrote up some chick (article he found, thought it was a hoot cause it was), White, but she felt the Jewish Spirit so STRONGLY (she lived Mid Town, NYC, the 70s), she just felt so Jewish, she started calling herself Jewish. Maybe she was drowning in showers of Jewish seed and is further driven, who knows? And, Jewish girls don’t get their noses fixed anymore, mustn’t tamper with the honor-badge.

    Hell of a way to run a railroad I tell ya.

  41. @Clifford Brown

    Does it really make sense to build affordable housing in Beverly Hills?

    Yes, because rich leftists should have to suffer the consequences of policies they eagerly foist on other communities.

  42. @eah

    Jesus Christ.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  43. @J.Ross

    Replace “affordable housing” with “Section 8” and you can understand the reaction. Also, the media paints affordable housing users as white working couples starting a family, when it’s too often illegals or “disabled” Americans.

  44. @Boethiuss

    The Feminization of politics. Hey, I complained and whined about something so I DID something about it.

  45. @Not Raul

    Some parts of Sweden were relatively swarthy before the current invasion.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
  46. @eah

    People who need clueless people, are the luckiest people of all.

  47. @Clyde

    Napoleonic syndrome is not an exclusively male phenomenon.

    The meanest boss I’ve ever had was a tiny little lady who stood no more than 5’ even. She snarled at the men, but spewed flaming balls of molten lava at the women. After years of stability in the department, turnover increased dramatically as this witch’s unrelenting nastiness turned a pleasant, productive office into a drama-filled cauldron of seething resentment. Several careers were derailed.

    Apparently she was someone’s sister or cousin or something. Dreadful woman. I was happy to leave when I got the chance.

  48. tyrone says:
    @Cloudbuster

    No, Jesus juice.Eight year old drunk boys ….KOSHER with babs

  49. Flip says:
    @Ed

    Nor do the Jews of Malibu

  50. Pericles says:
    @Clyde

    Mirisch, an old traditional Swedish name like Gustafsson.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  51. a reader says:

    C’mon, it’s Purim.

    Let’s have (((fun))) !

  52. LondonBob says:
    @eah

    I watched that Jackson documentary on British TV the other day, they were both messed up, the Safechuck fella particularly so. Deeply disturbing to watch.

  53. Pericles says:
    @Lot

    Time for some UCLA grad student to catch that previously unknown lizard subspecies right by the back hedge of the building site.

  54. Pericles says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The Swedish Green Party turned out to be, well, more or less controlled by a somewhat obscure Turkish organization, the Grey Wolves. Somewhat amusing since they started as a commie spin-off/rebranding exercise. The Turks do seem to be pretty active in playing the European political game.

  55. Pericles says:
    @Not Raul

    At a guess he’s a Jew whose parents fled to Sweden during or after WW2. But who knows?

  56. Someone surely counted the number of genocidal campaigns the Jews were responsible for, or complicit in, in the Old Testament. Anybody know what that number is?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  57. @Boethiuss

    Why are we supposed to care what the Jews are doing?

    They fund the Democrats and the establishment Republicans. That is sufficient to excite ill will. But Jews will move to the Republican Party as Democrats increase their hostility to Jews. And their money will shift before they change parties.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  58. anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Pithy.

  59. ivvenalis says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Does it really make sense to build affordable housing in Beverly Hills?

    It sure does: to give these people a taste of the medicine they so eagerly prescribe elsewhere.

  60. Jack D says:
    @Dr. X

    First of all, in the version that they teach to kids (and this is where most people’s Jewish education ends) they never mention 75,000. Steve and the anti-Semites of unz.com are more aware of this than 95% of American Jews. When they recite the Megillah, it’s in Hebrew which no one understands and it’s at the very end where no one is paying attention anymore. The Megillah is fanciful anyway – Esther is really Ishtar, borrowed from the Mesopotamians – the whole story is kind of an overlay on Judaism and the Bible is not known for statistical accuracy anyway.

    You have to understand that Purim is a festive holiday, sort of the Jewish Mardi Gras (another holiday that is pretty much pagan) – get drunk and rowdy (for little kids it’s closer to Halloween, yet another pagan festival). Most Jewish holidays are pretty somber but this one is fun. Haman is shouted down more in the spirit of a pro-wrestling villain than in the spirit of hatred against Hitler – it’s been so long that he’s a sort of comic book villain. He’s like the crook that gets caught at the end of the Scooby Doo cartoons – I would have gotten away with it if it hadn’t been for you meddling kids.

    The verse itself says:

    And the rest of the Jews of the king’s provinces gathered and stood up for their lives to relieve themselves of their enemies and killed seventy-five thousand of their foes, but took none of the spoils.

    Emphasizing that it was in self-defense only.

  61. Jack D says:
    @Jack D

    Also, according to Persian law (at least according to the Book of Esther), it was impossible to annul a formal royal decree once it had been signed, sealed and delivered (and Haman as viceroy had already decreed the oppression of the Jews). The King instead adds to it, permitting the Jews to join together and destroy those seeking to oppress them under decree #1, because there’s no longer any peaceful way out. In the revised decree, the King even permits the Jews to KEEP the spoils.

    While this doesn’t really make any sense and probably isn’t true (even assuming that the rest of the story has any truth to it, which it probably doesn’t either), that’s what the scroll says. I guess it is a sort of plot device like having your character lose his cell phone in a modern movie.

  62. @Jack D

    Yeah, yeah, yeah Steve knows all that.

    He’s giving you a taste of your own bullshit in hopes that you’ll straighten up and fly right. Lord knows no one else has the balls to do it.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  63. @Anonymous

    He is an American-Swede. Look it up. Everyone is trying to be Jewish these days.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  64. Mr. Anon says:
    @Boethiuss

    It’s tiresome by now.

    You became tiresome a long time ago.

    The one thing that we can do is vote Republican and organize around the Republican Party as the means to represent Core American interests and values, but we can’t be bothered to get up off our ass long enough to do that.

    Yeah, maybe we should try to support a candidate for President who will clamp-down on immigration, try to stop the out-sourcing of American industry, and extricate us from stupid, self-destructive foreign wars. In short, someone who will Make America Great Again. That’s what we ought to do.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    , @Trevor H.
  65. @Lot

    He’s the prohibitive favorite.

    • Replies: @Lot
  66. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    When they recite the Megillah, it’s in Hebrew which no one understands and it’s at the very end where no one is paying attention anymore.

    I never knew what “The Whole Megillah” meant. I didn’t realize it meant “Kill every last one of the f**kers”.

    The Megillah is fanciful anyway – Esther is really Ishtar, borrowed from the Mesopotamians – the whole story is kind of an overlay on Judaism and the Bible is not known for statistical accuracy anyway. You have to understand that Purim is a festive holiday, sort of the Jewish Mardi Gras (another holiday that is pretty much pagan) – get drunk and rowdy (for little kids it’s closer to Halloween, yet another pagan festival). Most Jewish holidays are pretty somber but this one is fun.

    Is the “fun-ness” quotient related to the number of goyim killed?

    “Hey, our traditions of historic grievance and ethnic-hatred are “fanciful” and “fun”. Yours however, are anti-semitic.”

    How does that old saying go? If not for double-standards, some people would have no standards at all.

  67. I don’t always seek the Democratic Presidential nomination, but when I do, I always kick off my campaign by pissing off the Jews.

  68. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Emphasizing that it was in self-defense only.

    More interested in genociding rival groups than in seeking a better standard of living.

    In any event, it is typical of killers and invaders to claim “self-defense.”

  69. Not Raul says:
    @Redneck farmer

    Sure; but who are Mirisch’s Swedish ancestors?

  70. Boethiuss says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Yeah, maybe we should try to support a candidate for President who will clamp-down on immigration, try to stop the out-sourcing of American industry, and extricate us from stupid, self-destructive foreign wars. In short, someone who will Make America Great Again. That’s what we ought to do.

    Great, go ahead and do that. What does that have to do with Donald Trump?

    Our unwillingness to really look at the reality of President Donald Trump (what he’s done so far, what he’s likely to do in the future, and not all of it is bad by any means) is killing us. We think that we’re in a position to present Donald Trump as President to the rest of America and they have to take it as a fait accompli. We’re not in that position, and that’s obvious to everybody else except us.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Anonymous
  71. Lot says:
    @Desiderius

    Not a prohibitive favorite on PredictIt. Last time I checked it was Biden 23 Bernie 22, Beto 16, Kamala 16 Warren 8.

    YangGangers have periodicly wasted their cash bidding him up to 12/13.

    I have $100 on Joe at the moment. At those odds I might put another $100. Upsets do happen, but parties usually nominate their strongest candidates and Joe polls 3 to 5 points better than Bernie against Trump. I was reading some libs saying that all their facebook indivisible friends like Warren and Kamala the best, but plan to vote Joe because they think he’s most likely to win.

  72. There were some HUD/Section 8 housing built in Beverly Hills in the ’80s — about 8 or 10 units.

    ALL units had 2 kitchens — for kosher cooking.

    Obviously, there was a very limited target audience — and no one caught the 1st Amendment issue.

    The same thing happened at Venice Beach around the same time — a brand new 10-12 story apartment was built right on the Venice Walk … and more than 95% of the occupants were jews.

    Your tax dollars at work …

  73. @Lot

    Yeah all he needs is Oprah or Michelle or somebody (a real black, not Kamala) as a running mate and he’s a shoe-in. Of course he’ll be Trump 2.0 in most ways that matter and a couple ways that don’t.

    One difference will be he’ll take care not to disturb the legions of Civil Rights Reeenactors. He’ll of course play along with gusto.

    • Replies: @Lot
  74. Who do they think they are: The Philadelphia Club?

  75. Boethiuss says:
    @Lot

    I have $100 on Joe at the moment. At those odds I might put another $100.

    Sell.

    Likely this is the apex of the Biden campaign and it’s all downhill from here. He’s in a good lane, in that he represents the non-Woke part of the Democratic Party that racked up a bunch of wins in the midterm.

    But I don’t think he can sustain that lane well. Forget the grope-y stuff. He’s looks better than he is because he was VP for Obama for eight years, and never had to take responsibility for anything and consequently never did anything to make him look bad. A Presidential campaign is a completely different animal.

    And what’s worse is that beyond the gropey-ness, two of his major flaws compound against him: his age and his lack of message discipline. Basically, he’s a walking gaffe machine and he doesn’t have the advantage of Trump who said things that had to be said but nobody else would.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Lot
  76. @RebelWriter

    They tried a couple times but weren’t very good at it.

    Saul did lose God’s blessing over his ineptitude/unwillingness to off the Amalekites (unlike that hardcore Bari Weiss) but God wasn’t really into the whole kingship thing anyway so maybe He was just trying to make Saul look bad.

    Maybe Bari is hoping God reconsiders and makes her Queen of Israel.

  77. @Boethiuss

    His gaffes are pretty Kinsleyish for someone of his IQ. He’d have a shot at stupidest President. All is going as the prophet Mothersbaugh predicted.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    , @Anonymous
  78. Mr. Anon says:
    @Boethiuss

    Are you dense? I’m saying we tried voting for a candidate who said all of those things – who was the only one saying those things. Whom the establishment gave every indication of hating because he was apparently serious about doing all those things.

    And instead all we got was what we got.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    , @Desiderius
  79. Lot says:
    @Boethiuss

    I looked at the supposed groping videos and just saw an alpha touchy feely guy.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
    , @Mr. Anon
  80. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    7,000 followers of Haman were killed.

    By whom?

  81. Boethiuss says:
    @Lot

    I looked at the supposed groping videos and just saw an alpha touchy feely guy.

    Yeah, that’s why I said forget about the grope-y stuff. That’s out there, and it’s a negative, but it’s a side issue.

    The problem with candidate Biden isn’t what he’s done, it’s what he hasn’t done. That is, there’s no compelling reason for his candidacy that comes from the candidate himself. He’s in a good lane, and he’s well-positioned within that lane, but there’s nothing beyond that. So as things stand, he’s a “plausible” nominee but never a compelling one.

    And the process is long, and between now and whenever his candidacy ends Biden is going to do a bunch of stupid, old, or dopey things, and D primary voters are going to migrate to someone they really like instead of merely tolerate.

    If we’re past Super Tuesday heading into Wisconsin and Indiana, and Biden is the only thing standing between Bernie or Kamala Harris and the nomination, well then we’re in a different dynamic. But frankly I don’t expect him to last that long.

  82. Boethiuss says:
    @Mr. Anon

    And instead all we got was what we got.

    Right. And what I am saying is the fact that President Trump has been a disappointment in a lot of ways doesn’t change the reality that we put him there, that our fellow Americans, politically active or not, are very well aware of that and if Trump completely crashes and burns will take it out on us.

    They’re not going to care that we never approved of Trump’s adult move actress payoffs or real estate scams, we’re going to get blamed for those things, while at the same time never actually getting the things we voted for in the first place (more restrictions on immigration, less kinetic foreign policy etc).

    We could have Tucker Carlson run for President in 2024 and never get any traction, because Trump’s failures suck all the oxygen out of the room. “You say you want to raise blue collar wage rates and promote the American national interest in immigration policy, but that’s all bullshit. What you really want is to have gay sex with Vladimir Putin, pardon Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort, and quash the NY state indictments against Jared and Ivanka.”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  83. Lot says:
    @Desiderius

    An early Biden announcement of Stacy Abrams as VP is the current rumor.

    That could seal the black vote which is 50%+ of primary voters in many states. Cory Booker has blue eyes and pale skin and made an enemy of teacher unions, Kamla grew up with an Indian single mother in Canada.

    Stacy is probably smarter than both of them too, as she went to Yale Law and wrote romance novels as a hobby. She also greatly outperformed in her governor race.

    A negative is she mismanaged a costly voter registration drive. They only registered like 1 voter per $500 raised.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Jack D
  84. Boethiuss says:
    @Desiderius

    His gaffes are pretty Kinsleyish for someone of his IQ. He’d have a shot at stupidest President. All is going as the prophet Mothersbaugh predicted.

    Forgive me but I’m not making heads or tails out of this.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  85. Mr. Anon says:

    Forgive me but I’m not making heads or tails out of this.

    Maybe that’s because Desiderius is a bloviating twit.

  86. Mr. Anon says:
    @Boethiuss

    I have no idea what you’re saying or what you mean. You’re a jabbering idiot.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  87. @Boethiuss

    His gaffes are largely true, but he’s an SD or two behind Trump so they’re banally true.

    Banal would be an improvement for a large swath of his base.

    Devo is short for devolution.

  88. @Boethiuss

    D primary voters are going to migrate to someone they really like instead of merely tolerate.

    Yeah right. Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong?

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
  89. Vengeance has always been a primary feature of Judaism. Ever notice how a disproportionate number of Hollywood flicks deal with the idea of someone taking revenge in one form or another? This is not a coincidence. It’s also not a coincidence that Christ taught to turn the other cheek, which is the very antithesis of vengeance. Even if one doesn’t believe in the divinity of Christ, one can see that at the very least he wanted to reform the Jewish religion, and saw this obsession with revenge as a major flaw to be corrected.

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  90. res says:
    @Boethiuss

    I can’t believe people are seriously considering electing someone president who would be over 80 by the end of his first term (Biden OR Bernie). Didn’t we learn that lesson with Reagan’s second term? And Reagan was “only” 77 at the end of his second term.

    But here we have the WaPo tackling the issue head on: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/21/biden-take-page-reagans-book

    From one of the more intelligent comments there:

    Being president ages all a lot and fast. Aging a lot and fast when you’re 70/80 is bad for you and bad for the nation.

    Interesting she uses Reagan as an example. Biden would be older when taking office than Reagan was when leaving office. And according to Reagan’s son he had early stages of Alzheimers during the second term. Reagan is an illustration for why we shouldn’t elect Biden or Bernie.

    Interesting fact from the comments:

    Not one single first time Democratic President has been older than 60 years, 11 months since before 1900.

    Here is a list of presidents by age at inauguration: http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/america/unitedstates/presidents/byage.htm

    pre-1900 Democrats older than that were Jackson and Buchanan. Truman was the 60 years, 11 months example, but is an odd special case (VP taking over).

    Despite all that, my guess is for the Dems to nominate Biden for a stated single term with someone like Harris as the anointed VP. We shall see. Should be entertaining.

    P.S. One interesting bit of trivia. If Biden or Bernie becomes president they would be the first and presumably only Silent Generation (1925-1945) president.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
  91. res says:
    @Lot

    A fun take on Biden / Stacey Abrams: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-stacey-abrams_n_5c952b88e4b0a6329e16565f

    The headline and subtitle serve as a good summary.

    The Disrespect Of Floating Stacey Abrams As Joe Biden’s Running Mate

    One’s a star. The other’s Joe Biden. Neither has made a decision about running for president. So why should Abrams suddenly become Biden’s second fiddle?

    Any thoughts on how capable she really is? Yale Law is not quite the recommendation it would be in a non-Affirmative Action world.

    • Replies: @Lot
  92. Lot says:
    @res

    On a percentile basis, the HYS law schools are even more elite for African Americans since a higher percentage of very smart blacks want to be lawyers relative to other groups. In other words, Abrams is probably 99.99 percentile for AAs on the tasks tested by the LSAT, which is very g loaded.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Jack D
    , @res
  93. Boethiuss says:
    @Desiderius

    Yeah right. Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong?

    Heh. I’ll be tired of that about the same time that I get tired from all the winning we get from the Trump Administration.

  94. Boethiuss says:
    @res

    I can’t believe people are seriously considering electing someone president who would be over 80 by the end of his first term (Biden OR Bernie). Didn’t we learn that lesson with Reagan’s second term? And Reagan was “only” 77 at the end of his second term.

    It’s definitely a negative I think.

    But I don’t think it will affect every candidate the same. When push comes to shove I think it will end up being fatal for Biden. There’s no reason why any D primary voter has to support Biden, and as the campaign goes along it will become more and more apparent that Joe has lost a lot of velocity off his fastball, he’ll fade away. It’s a negative for Bernie too, but he’s got stronger bearing and sense of self so I think he’ll hold up better.

  95. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    If Biden might turn out to be a do-nothing president, that puts him head and shoulders above the competition, in my book.

    Is there anything (important) he might (try very hard to) do?

  96. @Lot

    Please be precise on your sigfigs; it matters.

    • Replies: @Lot
  97. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pericles

    Mirisch, an old traditional Swedish name like Gustafsson.

    Interesting. I haven’t heard the name before, anywhere.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  98. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    They fund the Democrats and the establishment Republicans. That is sufficient to excite ill will. But Jews will move to the Republican Party as Democrats increase their hostility to Jews. And their money will shift before they change parties.

    They will never “change parties.” Not if they can help it. It is better to control both. This helps ensure that Americans never have a choice as to what US foreign policy is toward Israel and the Middle East.

    AIPAC, for example, is adamantly bipartisan.

  99. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boethiuss

    We think that we’re in a position to present Donald Trump as President to the rest of America and they have to take it as a fait accompli. We’re not in that position, and that’s obvious to everybody else except us.

    I don’t understand this. What are you talking about?

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
  100. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    What is a “Facebook indivisible friend”?

  101. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Boethiuss

    Do you think it’s going to be O’Rourke?

    • Replies: @Boethiuss
  102. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    Penn Law Professor Amy Wax says that almost all Ivy Law blacks fall at the bottom of their class due to mismatch. Yale Law is perhaps 7% black and should be perhaps 1% black based on ability. So the chance that Stacey Abrams should not have been admitted and didn’t really belong there is perhaps 6 out of 7.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @GermanReader2
  103. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    A negative is she mismanaged a costly voter registration drive. They only registered like 1 voter per $500 raised.

    Is that a bug or a feature when you are spending Other People’s Money?

  104. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Devo were right about everything. Every goddamn thing.

  105. Boethiuss says:
    @Anonymous

    Do you think it’s going to be O’Rourke?

    If I had to pick the most likely to be President on Inauguration Day 2021, right now I’d say:

    1. Bernie
    2. Beto
    3. Donnie

    Bernie and Beto might be swapping in the next couple of weeks or so.

  106. Boethiuss says:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t understand this. What are you talking about?

    I’m talking about the political-cultural myopia of the alt-right/populist Right in America.

    Most of them aren’t happy with the direction of our politics, particularly related to immigration but not just that. At a deeper level, there’s a dissatisfaction with the Establishment to the extent that they are willing to sell cheap the national interest, particularly regarding foreign policy, trade policy and domestic policy. On top of that, there’s also the complaint that the Establishment is unwilling to give enough consideration of the parochial interest of Core America as defining the national interest. In a nutshell, that’s the nature of the problems.

    At the political level, the lay of the land is pretty clear. Donnie has The Big Job, but he’s doesn’t have the knowledge, enough organizational strength, or enough popular support to be effective with it. And there’s also the weight of the scandals burdening him (and us) even further.

    So between the substantive problems and the who’s where of our political friends and adversaries, that’s the situation we’re in. Now what?

    For most of the populist Right, the one thing they do have is that Donnie is in The Big Job, so they desperately don’t want to give that up. At a superficial level we can be sympathetic to that pov but really it doesn’t hold up.

    Donnie is almost certainly going to be out of The Big Job in 2021 (and for sure four years later). We’re in a weak position. The one thing that we can do is reengage with the American people and attempt to create solidarity with them, persuade them that our views are correct on the substance and should be advanced no matter who the politicians in office are. Donnie can fend for himself.

  107. Lot says:
    @Desiderius

    Median white/asian LSAT at YLS is about 99.2 percentile. Adjusting for the pool who take it, that’s more like 99.9 percentile of the population. Because the black % there is about half the US population %, it would be more like 99.95% of blacks.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  108. @Mr. Anon

    He is. He seems like a decent guy; wish he’d find a subject where he hasn’t been wrong on everything.

  109. @Lot

    Thanks. Interesting to look at the difference between 99.9% and 99.999% (which is where I think she’d need to be to be legit at YLS/president) and the people in between.

  110. @Jack D

    Judging by the performance of Stelter, Comey, Harf, et. al., mismatch isn’t just a problem for blacks.

  111. res says:
    @Lot

    Color me skeptical.

    I have a black friend who went to one of the HYS law schools. Fun personable guy who is reasonably smart, but I don’t think close to 145 IQ (I also know where he did undergrad). My reasoning for the 145 number, 99.99% is about 4SD. For blacks that would be roughly 85 + 4 * 15 (and some would argue 85 is a low mean estimate).

    Do you think Obama has a 145 IQ?

    This iSteve post has some good information on the LSAT and IQs: http://www.unz.com/isteve/lsat-and-iq/https://web.archive.org/web/20120816081925/
    Unfortunately the LSAT-IQ conversion link is dead. Here is an archive version: http://carrefoursagesse.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/converting-lsat-scores-to-iqs/
    Note the iSteve reference in the comments.

    FWIW, the last time I checked my friend was working as a college diversicrat. Sounded like a great gig for him, but I’m not sure that’s the best use of an elite legal education.

    • Replies: @Lot
  112. Mr. Anon says:
    @Lot

    I looked at the supposed groping videos and just saw an alpha touchy feely guy.

    Try imagining that it was your wife he was groping, or your daughter into whose ear he was whispering (God knows what). It’s creepy. He’s creepy.

    I read that female Secret Service agents who were assigned to guard him at his official residence at the Naval Observatory have privately complained that Biden likes to purposefully walk around naked in their presence.

  113. @Jack D

    I read somewhere that the test scores of the average black law school student are at the 8th percentile of the law school he attends.

    • Replies: @res
  114. res says:
    @GermanReader2

    That sounds plausible, but a citation would be good.

    Sander’s mismatch work seems to be the best data available on the topic. Here is an essay about it. Compare the numbers in Table 3 (which looks at the black median for academic index-60% LSAT 40% UGPA) with your 8%.
    http://www.debatingracialpreference.org/SanderEssay.htm

    The link to Sander’s work there is dead (funny how that always seems to happen for things like this), but here is an archive version.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20070210005312/http://www2.law.ucla.edu/sander/Systemic/SA.htm
    Unfortunately, the files I tried to download from there are corrupted.

    Here is a valid link to Sander’s paper: http://www.adversity.net/Sander/Systemic_Analysis_FINAL.pdf

    And a valid link to The 1995 National Study of Law Student Performance data, The Law School Admissions Council’s National Bar Passage Study, and more:
    http://seaphe.org/?page_id=22

  115. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous

    (Comments may contain traces of sarcasm.)

  116. Trevor H. says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    Most of Torah/Tanakh is about exacting retribution upon people you don’t like. Conveniently, [email protected]*h doesn’t like the very same people you don’t like!

  117. Trevor H. says:
    @Desiderius

    Steve runs defense for the most prolific and prolix Jews and Koreans here, day in and day out. They really should show more gratitude. But then we don’t know what kind of checks they’ve sent in..

  118. Trevor H. says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Personally I don’t mind having an old Republican partisan here, even one who appears to have learned absolutely nothing from the past few decades. Just wish he didn’t type so many words. But we do have the blocking feature here.

  119. Lot says:
    @res

    “Do you think Obama has a 145 IQ?”

    He was in the top 20% of his graduating class, and the 75th percentile LSAT at HLS was around 174 then. So yes 145 seems to be a good ballpark estimate.

    • Replies: @res
  120. res says:
    @Lot

    I think your 75th percentile (at HLS) LSAT estimate is high based on this iSteve post: http://www.unz.com/isteve/obamas-lsat-score/

    That posits a range of 42-45 (166-171, 94-98th percentile) with Lockwood’s estimate being 43 (closer to Harvard median). The evidence for that range seems good though that leaves some uncertainty.

    Looking at the link in the PS below for the 171 high end of the range gives 135. Mensa’s qualifying score (supposed to be 132 IQ) for the LSAT is 95th percentile: https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/

    Based on what Amy Wax says, not many blacks do as well as Obama at law school. Unsure how to judge whether Stacey Abrams is an exception.

    P.S. Just realized the LSAT-IQ link I gave earlier that was supposed to be an archive version wasn’t. Here is the link I meant: https://web.archive.org/web/20090202133238/http://carrefoursagesse.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/converting-lsat-scores-to-iqs/

    • Replies: @Lot
  121. Lot says:
    @res

    The archived link grossly understates IQ scores per LSAT score. It suggests the median LSAT taker has an IQ of 104!

    It also cites “high IQ societies” which are composed of kooks who denigrate the big standardized tests and make up their own specious tests for admission.

    • Replies: @res
  122. res says:
    @Lot

    The archived link grossly understates IQ scores per LSAT score. It suggests the median LSAT taker has an IQ of 104!

    That’s definitely an underestimate. The comments (in a more recent archive IIRC) talk about a 5-10 point underestimate. That 105 median assumption is highly suspect (which directly causes the issue you note, also note that the assumption steepens the curve so could cause an overestimate at the high end). I welcome your better data.

    I suspect another part of the problem is the linear assumption. As I assume you are aware, a linear fit is most accurate in the region of fit, and works best if it is over a small region. So a fit between the Mensa scores and the Triple Nine scores (below) would probably give a good estimate given that I think they likely roughly bracket Obama.

    It also cites “high IQ societies” which are composed of kooks who denigrate the big standardized tests and make up their own specious tests for admission.

    Nothing like an ad hominem attack for convincing me. Not. There are issues with high IQ societies, but the people there tend to think a lot about IQ (for both good and bad) so they tend to be decent sources for matters like this. (and as I said, I welcome your better data)

    P.S. Since we are talking about an IQ around 145 the Triple Nine Society test requirements are probably one of the better guides: http://www.triplenine.org/HowtoJoin/TestScores.aspx
    They require a 48/173 for the LSAT or 146 on the Wechsler IQ test.

    P.P.S. Regarding the original point of the IQs of black graduates of elite law schools and how that applies to Stacey Abrams. Have you read Amy Wax on the topic?

    • Replies: @Lot
  123. Lot says:
    @res

    It isn’t ad hominem really as I am not invested in convincing you with argument. My experience is the “high IQ” groups are not useful sources of information, and aggressively spread disinformation about standardized tests. The link you provided shows they “accept” silly tests made up by individual weirdos but not recent GREs is illustrative.

    You can heed my warning, or not, but it won’t effect me beyond my mild altruistic concern for another iStever not waste his time.

    • LOL: res
    • Replies: @res
  124. res says:
    @Lot

    Now that was nice and patronizing. I stand by my arguments. Thanks for making clear you aren’t even trying to make any.

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