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The mass shooting by a fired worker at the Molson Coors brewery in Milwaukee sounds a lot like Omar Thornton shooting eight ex-colleagues at Hartford Distributors in Connecticut in 2010.

Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.

Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent.

 
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  1. Don’t hire blacks. Problem solved.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Derbyshire's "the Talk" is looking more prescient every day.
    , @Fun
    The Jim Crow system didn't solve the Negro Problem. Marginalizing people doesn't make them invisible or less resentful.
    , @Art Deco
    Some obsessive put together a list of incidents in 2019 wherein multiple people were shot. He catalogues 240 incidents over the last six months of the year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019#List


    A grand total of four incidents occurred in workplaces. You ought to consider re-imposing prohibition, because a great many of these seem to occur in bars at closing time.


    You have 19 million employed blacks in this country, but you're not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite. I can tell you'd make a crackerjack actuary.

    , @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t hire blacks. Problem solved.
     
    You're 400 years too late with this advice.



    https://s.france24.com/media/display/e577da94-c1bd-11e9-9648-005056a964fe/w:1240/p:16x9/arrivee_esclave_1619_0.jpeg
  2. This was an Neocon style preventative strike by the noble Black man, unbeknownst to the Negrophobes of Unz, this man has done his bit to prevent a Nazi uprising.

    • LOL: Kratoklastes
  3. Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.

    Yeah, I gotta say … why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it’s important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their “arguments”. If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It’s about brutal sadism directed at American “nazis”. Hint: The “nazis” are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it’s just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren’t playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Agree, racist sadism, lots of it.

    Those actors, I mean - aren't they partners in crime? - Al Pacino?!

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    Genius Jordan Peele is producing a TV show wherein white gentile men are gleefully and sadistically murdered? Shocker. The white men in the TV show are supposedly late of the Third Reich, so I guess they are deserving of Jordan's racial violence. At this point in Hollywood history Genius Jordan and his fellow African American genius, Genius Weave Goddess and unsuccessful feature film director Ava Duvernay, can discharge their body waste in the middle of the Warner Bros. commissary and have it declared genius.
    , @Tiny Duck
    It says alot about you that you deride a show thats premise is bringing racists to justice

    As for the topic we must remember that most gun crime is done by white males and usually the victims are People of Colour
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    That's pretty sick. I wonder if Jeff Bezos knows all that goes on over his Prime Network.
    , @Bugg
    HBO is also promoting the shit out of some alternate history show with Charles Lindbergh as an American Nazi leader. Lindbergh was a patriot who saw FDR was trying to get us into war sooner than later. He visited Germany, but once war was declared fought bravely in the Pacific. He did not hate Jews, and has been hounded in history for one errant line in one speech.

    How many "Nazis are the greatest threat to 2020 America" shows is Hollywood going to produce? The reality; may be you've probably got a John Demjanyuk or 2 hiding out there drooling in a nursing home, and 10-15 toothless losers with 6th grade educations with some KKK and Nazi stuff who could not fill the kindergarten classroom at your typical suburban school. That's it. There is no secret gentile white Bund out there. What "anti-semites" we do have are a legion of Muslims, black converts and Islamic immigrants, plus a mess of lower class blacks who all hate and occasionally beat up Jews. As usual, liberals want to have a conversation only if it makes them feel good, but not if solve problems.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It's anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles. I'm surprised Al Pacino would participate in it. Not sure what he's getting paid but I don't think it's a coincidence that the show is being funded by the richest man in the world.
    , @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/PrimeVideo/status/1231341645796446208
    , @J.Ross
    The reason consistently given for the censorship right-wing content is the fear that it will unintentionally nudge, encourage, or create evil white terrorists, but aggressively encouraging black terrorism is always okay, and actually saturates the entertainment landscape. Furthermore, blacks are much more suggestible than whites. There are no Phantom Nazis who acted on One Wierd Movie Scene. There are plenty of black criminals obsessed with certain entertainment products, not only in the recent BLM cop defamation campaign, but in such examples as the mother who showed her daughters the bank robbery movie Set It Off. This is a regular thing with them.
  4. Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.

    But this time it’s in Jeff Dahmer’s Milwaukee.

    Miller Molson-Coors is the new Ambrosia Chocolate Factory. All the victims were checking out his ass.

  5. Another shooting that got completely memory-holed was the Cupertino Quarry shooting. The guy was hanging around the neighborhood near Apple and HP, shooting an HP worker to try and steal her car, for an entire day until he was shot himself when the cops finally spotted him. But he was black and it happened with legally owned guns in the most liberal state in the union, so nothing to see.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    And another. The story got a little early excited media coverage but once the facts came out, the story disappeared.

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fresno-shooting-20170418-story.html
    , @Nicholas Stix
    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2011/10/finally-two-reporters-start-giving.html
  6. Well, something is going on, because no news reports mention the shooter’s name or the victims, and there are no photos except of the dark exterior of the MillerCoors building. Scrubby-scrubby time.

    • Replies: @bomag
    I checked out the Bing home page this morning; no link to this event. Wow.
    , @anonymous
    Yup, you got it. I was curious about the lack of detail even this morning and figured this was the case. Now confirmed. Mass media certainly is scummy.
    , @Hail
    Widely named by social media reporters as Anthony Ferrill. Motive: Anti-racism.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/jussie-smolletts-fake-noose-hate-hoax-is-finally-rewarded-by-passage-of-emmett-till-antilynching-act/#comment-3739609

    A few Black twitter people were seen responding saying the five whites had it coming.

    A strange twist to the story is (it's being reported that) Black man Anthony Ferrill and his Black wife had ties to Elizabeth Warren, were photographed with her, and had been with her campaign since mid or late 2019, in the sense at least of attending her rallies.

  7. • Agree: Duke84
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Coulter's Law, right yet again. NPR mentioned this as a "mass shooting" but said nothing about the shooter or motives. Interesting to see if Bloomberg tries to exploit this.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you, Bruce, and same to Hail for his continual work inserting biographic info. under the posts.

    Do you all see why I don't use the standard media infotainment for news? I'd rather just read sites I like and get the news indirectly, without that Ministry-o-Truth middleman.

    I was THIS close to watching the D-debates Monday night just for giggles, but apparently we REALLY don't get any TV anymore. We haven't had cable in 20 years, or any internet-based deal, but I switched the TV from HDMI input to our local digital-over-the-air channels, having put a free antenna up on the roof 7 years. back. "No Signal" Nice! I switched back to HDMI and stuck in Day of the Jackel instead. Those Citroens are some ugly-ass cars, but it still beat the hell out of watching a group of Commie retards spouting off from Charleston.
    , @Known Fact
    Interesting that the black shooter is wearing a Red Sox cap in that photo -- aren't they supposed to be the all-time most racist MLB franchise?
    , @Dr. X

    His name is Anthony Ferrill. African American. Fired earlier that day.
     
    Well, that settles it, then!! The shootings were completely justified, "b/c wypipo be rayciss and sheeit." Obviously self-defense, because he was afraid the wypipo would lynch him. That's why Congress just passed that Federal lynching law, right??? C'mon, the poor guy was living the Black Holocaust, for God's sakes...

    Nothing to see here, kids, move along now...
  8. “Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent.”

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is “Thornton Redux”. Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    • Replies: @anon
    Tiny Crow

    Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media.

    You will have to provide links to these alleged "details" on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples. Yet you did not do so in your comment, leading thoughtful people to wonder why you are so free with accusations and so stingy with facts that support said accusations.

    When will you learn to do your homework, Coronavinus? When?
    You have to do better than this if you want iSteve to notice you. Mere temper tantrums are not enough.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NXN0nIMstTY/maxresdefault.jpg
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    Woo Hoo, Black Duck. Steve Sailer, like myself and many other "woke" readers of this column, was utilizing past experience to make an inductive inference. That he, I, and so many others were once again right is further empirical confirmation of the technique.
    , @Anonymous
    Milwaukee police haven’t released any identifying characteristics of the gunman other than his age and that he was a “Milwaukee area man.” If that doesn’t tell you something, you lack critical thinking.
    , @Alden
    The shooter is a black man who was fired. He must have been a terrible employee. It’s extremely difficult to fire a black due to city county state and federal diversity gestapo.
    , @Federalist
    Thanks for being the conscience of the internet. But it has now been confirmed by official sources: mass murder by black man justified by racism.
    , @for-the-record
    I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    From the article cited by Sailer:

    Law enforcement officials have yet to formally release the shooter’s identity, but a series of conversations were posted across social media based on reporting from journalist Matthew Keys who quoted a “law enforcement source.” The unconfirmed statements gave some background information about Ferrill’s work history and his employment situation as an African American, without providing evidence.

    “The shooter at Millers Coors was reported to suffer racial discrimination and harassment from white co-workers. He recently filed a civil lawsuit against Miller Coors’s racist work environment. The racist white co-workers had hung a hangman noose on his locker. He was rehired after the lawsuit five years ago. The white racist male harassment continue when he returned to work at Miller Coors. The racist white co-workers this time humiliated the 51-year-old African American male by pasting spade cards on his work locker and making his workday unbearable with white male racist antics. The Brother evidently was forced over the edge of sanity to make a violent act to end Miller Coors workforce racist harassment. Miller Coors has a long history of tolerating its white brewery worker racist behavior and acts against Black brewery workers.”
    – Tony Muhammad, Milwaukee resident
     
    , @Mr. Anon
    You are such a cuck-idiot, who only believes "formal statements". I bet you believe everything you hear from establishment journalists too. The country is full of stupid like you.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    "I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements."

    No, you confused "Alt Right media types" with Wikipediots, and then only when the official story matches their Bizarro World alternative universe.
  9. …because they were racist.

    They were just discussing the Bucks, and he took it personally.

    The Bucks Are Quietly Having One of the Best Seasons in NBA History

    Like the AIDS crisis, it’s all Ronald Reagan’s fault– here’s Steve’s favorite MexiMick (after Anthony Quinn):

    • LOL: bomag
  10. @Tim
    Don't hire blacks. Problem solved.

    Derbyshire’s “the Talk” is looking more prescient every day.

  11. @Red Pill Angel
    Well, something is going on, because no news reports mention the shooter's name or the victims, and there are no photos except of the dark exterior of the MillerCoors building. Scrubby-scrubby time.

    I checked out the Bing home page this morning; no link to this event. Wow.

  12. In an employee resignation gone tragically wrong, . . . .

  13. @Red Pill Angel
    Well, something is going on, because no news reports mention the shooter's name or the victims, and there are no photos except of the dark exterior of the MillerCoors building. Scrubby-scrubby time.

    Yup, you got it. I was curious about the lack of detail even this morning and figured this was the case. Now confirmed. Mass media certainly is scummy.

  14. Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It’s about brutal sadism directed at American “nazis”. Hint: The “nazis” are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it’s just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren’t playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    Jewish SJW attorney celebrates the fact that ant-Regime public protest is now impossible and the result is a rise in mass shootings:
    https://momentmag.com/roberta-kaplan-takes-white-supremacy-to-court/

    We absolutely can and will bankrupt these groups. And then we will chase these people around for the rest of their lives. So if they try to buy a new home, we will put a lien on the home. If they get a new job, we will garnish their wages. The reason to do that is because we want to create a deterrence impact. So we send a message to other people that if you try to do something like this, the same thing will happen to you. And it already has been a deterrence. We’re seeing lone shooters now; we’re not seeing the kind of massively organized conspiracy we saw in Charlottesville. And I think that’s in large part due to our case.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    So, she intends to make allegedly very dangerous people have nothing left to lose except their lives?

    I hope it turns out the way she expects.
    , @bomag
    Thanks -- an attorney who argued for gay marriage at SCOTUS.

    Another reminder that the courts aren't much on the conservative side. I wonder how much they'll eviscerate the Boy Scouts.
    , @HammerJack
    Take her quote to mean white people in general, and you really do have their recipe in sum. For garnish? Their 'shock troops' actually torturing, maiming, and murdering; and their mass media enforcing silence about all of it.
    , @Anonymous
    Mass shootings of random people they like. But I remember Alan Berg. They got quiet for a while after that.

    When the IRA provoked the Brits into an own goal, which was often, they got loud and squeaky. On the rare occasion the Brits cleanly took out an important IRA operative they got quiet.

    When the doctor who helped torture Enrique Camorra Salazar was nabbed in a technically illegal operation the DEA and US Attorneys got all boasty. When the LA steezer jury nullified the law and then threw him a fiesta, they got quiet.
  15. @bruce county
    His name is Anthony Ferrill. African American. Fired earlier that day.


    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70

    Coulter’s Law, right yet again. NPR mentioned this as a “mass shooting” but said nothing about the shooter or motives. Interesting to see if Bloomberg tries to exploit this.

    • Replies: @Dissident

    NPR mentioned this as a “mass shooting” but said nothing about the shooter or motives. Interesting to see if Bloomberg tries to exploit this.
     
    Remember the foiled bomb plot in Times Square during Michael Bloomberg's Mayoralty? Before any info about the suspect had been released, His Honor Mr. Mayor predicted that it would be revealed to have been a White Deplorable. Bloomberg turned-out to be dead wrong.

    I do not recall finding a single mention of this in what have now been hundreds of comments across multiple threads on Bloomberg that I have read here. Same for the former Mayor's connection to Lenora Fulani, the late Fred Newman, and their All Stars youth program.


    He [Bloomberg] then went on to narrowly win the mayoral election with the 59,000 votes he got on the Independence Party ticket. Once in office, he granted Fulani and her self-described mentor, therapy cult leader Fred Newman, a steady stream of favors, including high-level City Hall meetings, tax-free city bond financing, and his personal support for their youth organization.
     
    (Bloomy’s Flip-Flop, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, 2005)

    The "youth organization" referenced in the above quote is the All Stars Project.


    Fulani and Newman founded All Stars Project in 1981.[...]
    [...]
    In the 1970s, Newman practiced what he called “social therapy,” advising patients to embrace radical political thought as a means of psychological therapy. He also encouraged patients to have sex with their therapists, calling the practice “friendosexuality.” Several former supporters of Newman’s group later labeled it a cult, contending he pressured patients into supporting his political campaigns.
    [...]
    Newman met then-graduate student Fulani in the mid-1970s and the two went on to form or merge with several fringe political parties in New York, including the Independence Party, which would in 2001 endorse Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign for mayor. Over the years, the party threw its support behind an unusual collection of candidates, from the Reverend Al Sharpton to Pat Buchanan.
     
    (New NYCHA Monitor’s Strange Political Bedfellows, Greg B. Smith, New York Magazine, February 2019)

    From the conclusion of a 2006 report by Dennis King:


    The evidence is massive, on a variety of grounds, that the cult/revolutionary party/psychotherapy collective that runs the All Stars Project is dangerous to the psychological health and educational and sexual development of children and teens in its care. Its programs in years past succeeded in recruiting a number of teens directly into the adult group, condemning them to decades of exploitation by Fred Newman.
     
    Much more from the same author as well as from others can be found linked from
    https://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/index.html

    Additional links below.
    Nader and the Newmanites, Doug Ireland, The Nation, 2004


    When the Newmanites and Fulani took over New York’s Independence Party, they turned it into their most recent cash cow, renting themselves out to billionaire Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign (Bloomberg wanted an additional ballot line as a hedge in case he lost the GOP primary).
     
    Mike’s Awkward Ally, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, September 2005

    After Bloomberg won the last election with 59,000 votes on the Independence Party line, Fulani and Newman, a former Lyndon LaRouche ally, won Bloomberg’s approval of $8.35 million in tax-free city bonds to help them build a new headquarters for their nonprofit youth group, the All Stars Project. This summer Bloomberg’s Department of Youth and Community Development tentatively approved $240,000 in funding for the group.
     
    Bloomberg and the Not-So-Independent Independence Party, Gabe Pressman, NBC 4 New York, June 2010

    The Independence Party has a unique history. It was launched by Fred Newman, a former Marxist who became a psychotherapist, and, as the Times declared, “has manipulated politicians, workers and voters into thinking they are participating in a genuine political party.”
     
    https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3580/3416491209_a50ff4b36f.jpg
  16. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    Agree, racist sadism, lots of it.

    Those actors, I mean – aren’t they partners in crime? – Al Pacino?!

  17. Killing to avenge perceived slights of honor is as old as mankind. In fact, that’s what got Saint Emmett strung up, Hamilton shot and Bukhara massacred. It’s only very recently that some of humanity has set aside this practice. Most of the world’s people feel unencumbered by the sanctity of the Rule of Law when it comes to honor.

    It’s sort of a post-modern Western conceit that officialdom should protect personal honor. We’ve invented civil rights laws, H.R. departments, discrimination panels, etc. that seem to self-perpetuate rather than solve problems. The grievance armies seem to be making problems worse. But if you’re a Social Justice Warrior that last thing you want is a peaceful polity.

    Now it seems, though, that the Left wants both judicial and extrajudicial justice. They want to sue for discrimination and if that doesn’t work, settle it the “old-fashioned way”. It’s just another sign that diversity means we can’t have nice things like the Rule of Law.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Romanian

    It’s sort of a post-modern Western conceit that officialdom should protect personal honor. We’ve invented civil rights laws, H.R. departments, discrimination panels, etc. that seem to self-perpetuate rather than solve problems. The grievance armies seem to be making problems worse. But if you’re a Social Justice Warrior that last thing you want is a peaceful polity.

     

    Read this! This explains the shift from the culture of honor to that of dignity and then to that of victimhood, each with its own conflict resolution mechanisms.

    http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2015/09/honor-dignity-victimhood-and-death-of.html


    The explanation Campbell and Manning offer is a structural one. Call-out culture, as they see it, is a manifestation of a much broader shift in the way Americans perceive and resolve social conflicts. This shift is a natural and predictable response to the changing distribution of power within American society. They argue that this isn't the first time such a shift has happened. The emerging moral matrix which gives birth to trigger warnings and call-outs is the third system of its type. Campbell and Manning describe it as a "Culture of Victimhood." They name the moral system that preceded it a "Culture of Dignity." Filling out the trinity is the "Culture of Honor." Honor is the oldest conflict-resolution device of the three, and a fitting place to begin our discussion.

    ......

    The transition away from honor culture and its constant feuding took centuries, for it took centuries for new family models to develop and displace older networks of extended clans.The process went furthest with the Dutch, Welsh, English, and Scandinavians, who by the early modern period were living in "absolute nuclear families," which have few connections to extended relatives of any type. People in these societies had to develop a new model of conflict resolution. It was from this milieu the "Culture of Dignity" would arise. We return again to Campbell and Manning:

    B) A Culture of Dignity
    The prevailing culture in the modern West is one whose moral code is nearly the exact opposite of that of an honor culture. Rather than honor, a status based primarily on public opinion, people are said to have dignity, a kind of inherent worth that cannot be alienated by others (Berger 1970; see also Leung and Cohen 2011). Dignity exists independently of what others think, so a culture of dignity is one in which public reputation is less important. Insults might provoke offense, but they no longer have the same importance as a way of establishing or destroying a reputation for bravery. It is even commendable to have “thick skin” that allows one to shrug off slights and even serious insults, and in a dignity-based society parents might teach children some version of “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me” – an idea that would be alien in a culture of honor (Leung and Cohen 2011:509). People are to avoid insulting others, too, whether intentionally or not, and in general an ethic of self-restraint prevails.

    When intolerable conflicts do arise, dignity cultures prescribe direct but non-violent actions, such as negotiated compromise geared toward solving the problem (Aslani et al. 2012). Failing this, or if the offense is sufficiently severe, people are to go to the police or appeal to the courts. Unlike the honorable, the dignified approve of appeals to third parties and condemn those who “take the law into their own hands.” For offenses like theft, assault, or breach of contract, people in a dignity culture will use law without shame. But in keeping with their ethic of restraint and toleration, it is not necessarily their first resort, and they might condemn many uses of the authorities as frivolous. People might even be expected to tolerate serious but accidental personal injuries…. The ideal in dignity cultures is thus to use the courts as quickly, quietly, and rarely as possible. The growth of law, order, and commerce in the modern world facilitated the rise of the culture of dignity, which largely supplanted the culture of honor among the middle and upper classes of the West…. [4]
    This should be more familiar to most Americans, as it was the dominant 'moral culture' for most of our history. Dignity is the preferred conflict resolution device for those who identify as members of a community instead of as a clan. Modern conceptions of citizenship are built upon this moral code. But the conflict resolution mechanisms built into this order and the one now emerging on university campuses differ sharply
     

    , @Twodees Partain
    Hamilton was challenged to a duel over an offense against honor, not a perceived slight. Whatever the failings on his part, Aaron Burr did humanity a great service when he faced Hamilton on the field of honor and lit his ass up.
  18. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    Genius Jordan Peele is producing a TV show wherein white gentile men are gleefully and sadistically murdered? Shocker. The white men in the TV show are supposedly late of the Third Reich, so I guess they are deserving of Jordan’s racial violence. At this point in Hollywood history Genius Jordan and his fellow African American genius, Genius Weave Goddess and unsuccessful feature film director Ava Duvernay, can discharge their body waste in the middle of the Warner Bros. commissary and have it declared genius.

  19. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    Tiny Crow

    Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media.

    You will have to provide links to these alleged “details” on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples. Yet you did not do so in your comment, leading thoughtful people to wonder why you are so free with accusations and so stingy with facts that support said accusations.

    When will you learn to do your homework, Coronavinus? When?
    You have to do better than this if you want iSteve to notice you. Mere temper tantrums are not enough.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    Just in case you didn't see it above.
    Quit being so goddamned ignorant.

    It IS all over social media. And just "dropped away", like it never happened, from MSN news feed..Not one other news feed mentions the killers name or race.

    Here is just one of those social stories..

    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70
    , @Camlost
    Don' t pay any attention to Curryvinus.
    , @CrunchyButRealistCon
    Corvinus or Coronavirus ?
    , @bruce county
    Just in case you didn’t see it above.
    Quit being so goddamned ignorant. It IS all over social media. And just “dropped away”, like it never happened, from MSN news feed..Not one other news feed mentions the killers name or race.
    Here is just one of those social stories..
    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70
    , @Corvinus
    "You will have to provide links to these alleged “details” on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media."

    Mr. Sailer provided the link in his opening paragraph. Comments 7 and 8 also provide sources.

    "If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples."

    For starters, this posting.

    Then there is this doozy--https://www.unz.com/isteve/my-review-of-adam-rutherfords-how-to-argue-with-a-racist
  20. @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    Woo Hoo, Black Duck. Steve Sailer, like myself and many other “woke” readers of this column, was utilizing past experience to make an inductive inference. That he, I, and so many others were once again right is further empirical confirmation of the technique.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Woo Hoo, Black Duck. Steve Sailer, like myself and many other “woke” readers of this column, was utilizing past experience to make an inductive inference."

    Except our world is not always as predictable as inductive reasoning suggests, and we may selectively draw upon past experiences to confirm a belief.
  21. Let’s call it for what it is, a Lynching Prevention Program.

    • LOL: bruce county
  22. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    It says alot about you that you deride a show thats premise is bringing racists to justice

    As for the topic we must remember that most gun crime is done by white males and usually the victims are People of Colour

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    ... People of Colour.
     
    I had no idea you were from across the Pond, Mr. Duck. Your comments are, uhhh, brilliant!
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Black people commit gun crimes and murders far more often, are also the victims of murder more often by other blacks, so...you're a moron.
    , @fish
    Ohs Tinys…..wut do Lendbert Pitz hab to say bout dis TB shows….
    , @Dissident

    • Troll: Unladen Swallow, Genrick Yagoda
     
    Wasting a reaction by labeling a Tiny Duck post Troll is like putting-up a sign next-to a swimming pool,
    CAUTION: Water is Wet.

    Getting worked-up over someone who is not only so obviously a troll, but also a friendly one; clearly parodying the views he is posting. Life's too short. Just laugh.

  23. @fnn

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It’s about brutal sadism directed at American “nazis”. Hint: The “nazis” are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it’s just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren’t playing around. (adult language in trailer).
     
    Jewish SJW attorney celebrates the fact that ant-Regime public protest is now impossible and the result is a rise in mass shootings:
    https://momentmag.com/roberta-kaplan-takes-white-supremacy-to-court/

    We absolutely can and will bankrupt these groups. And then we will chase these people around for the rest of their lives. So if they try to buy a new home, we will put a lien on the home. If they get a new job, we will garnish their wages. The reason to do that is because we want to create a deterrence impact. So we send a message to other people that if you try to do something like this, the same thing will happen to you. And it already has been a deterrence. We’re seeing lone shooters now; we’re not seeing the kind of massively organized conspiracy we saw in Charlottesville. And I think that’s in large part due to our case.
     

    So, she intends to make allegedly very dangerous people have nothing left to lose except their lives?

    I hope it turns out the way she expects.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
    They know it will just result in a couple dozen deaths each time, and will give a good excuse to bring in more security measures. You have to be naive to think some white guys killing a couple of other people really scares the system, the fear factor is just a charade.
    , @Dissident

    So, she intends to make allegedly very dangerous people have nothing left to lose except their lives?

    I hope it turns out the way she expects.
     
    You hope for more murder of random civilians?

    What would that accomplish?

    Or have I misunderstood you?
  24. @bruce county
    His name is Anthony Ferrill. African American. Fired earlier that day.


    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70

    Thank you, Bruce, and same to Hail for his continual work inserting biographic info. under the posts.

    Do you all see why I don’t use the standard media infotainment for news? I’d rather just read sites I like and get the news indirectly, without that Ministry-o-Truth middleman.

    I was THIS close to watching the D-debates Monday night just for giggles, but apparently we REALLY don’t get any TV anymore. We haven’t had cable in 20 years, or any internet-based deal, but I switched the TV from HDMI input to our local digital-over-the-air channels, having put a free antenna up on the roof 7 years. back. “No Signal” Nice! I switched back to HDMI and stuck in Day of the Jackel instead. Those Citroens are some ugly-ass cars, but it still beat the hell out of watching a group of Commie retards spouting off from Charleston.

    • Thanks: bruce county
    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Thank you, Bruce, and same to Hail for his continual work inserting biographic info. under the posts.

    Do you all see why I don’t use the standard media infotainment for news? I’d rather just read sites I like and get the news indirectly, without that Ministry-o-Truth middleman.
     
    Same here. Sometimes, however, I can't get out of the bedroom soon enough to avoid hearing the most outrageous of lies from Savannah Guthrie and her henchmen.
    , @MB
    Hey, hey, hey, Achmed. Let's get with cleaning out the residual cerebral detritus deposited by the lamestream moron media.

    They are categorically not debates.

    They are media auditions, wherein our cognitive elite betters get to pick and choose who they will showcase and who they will ignore/humiliate.
    IOW a clown show.

    Which is why little grasshopper has been writing in candidates since at least '88 and turns off any announcements on Minitrue from official occupants of the Casa Blanca since the reign of Cappy "Read My Lips" Bush.

    Does wonders for the mental health/stress level.
    If these blankety blanks were sitting out your kitchen table and insulted your intelligence the way they do on natl. TV, you throw them out on their ear.
  25. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    That’s pretty sick. I wonder if Jeff Bezos knows all that goes on over his Prime Network.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    I'm sure he does.

    He has his own newspaper that can inform him, after all.
  26. @Tiny Duck
    It says alot about you that you deride a show thats premise is bringing racists to justice

    As for the topic we must remember that most gun crime is done by white males and usually the victims are People of Colour

    … People of Colour.

    I had no idea you were from across the Pond, Mr. Duck. Your comments are, uhhh, brilliant!

  27. @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    Milwaukee police haven’t released any identifying characteristics of the gunman other than his age and that he was a “Milwaukee area man.” If that doesn’t tell you something, you lack critical thinking.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Milwaukee police haven’t released any identifying characteristics of the gunman other than his age and that he was a “Milwaukee area man.”

    Not exactly.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2020/02/27/milwaukee-molson-coors-shooting-police-identify-victims-gunman/4895654002/
  28. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    HBO is also promoting the shit out of some alternate history show with Charles Lindbergh as an American Nazi leader. Lindbergh was a patriot who saw FDR was trying to get us into war sooner than later. He visited Germany, but once war was declared fought bravely in the Pacific. He did not hate Jews, and has been hounded in history for one errant line in one speech.

    How many “Nazis are the greatest threat to 2020 America” shows is Hollywood going to produce? The reality; may be you’ve probably got a John Demjanyuk or 2 hiding out there drooling in a nursing home, and 10-15 toothless losers with 6th grade educations with some KKK and Nazi stuff who could not fill the kindergarten classroom at your typical suburban school. That’s it. There is no secret gentile white Bund out there. What “anti-semites” we do have are a legion of Muslims, black converts and Islamic immigrants, plus a mess of lower class blacks who all hate and occasionally beat up Jews. As usual, liberals want to have a conversation only if it makes them feel good, but not if solve problems.

    • Replies: @HammerJack

    How many “Nazis are the greatest threat to 2020 America” shows is Hollywood going to produce?
     
    How many hours in a week?

    PS: All the GoodWhites I know lap this stuff up. Ask them about it and they'll say "Oh, I can't have this conversation."

    , @Dissident

    What “anti-semites” we do have are a legion of Muslims, black converts and Islamic immigrants, plus a mess of lower class blacks who all hate and occasionally beat up Jews.
     
    I agree that the way Whites as opposed to Blacks and Muslims are viewed with regard to the attitudes toward and threats posed to Jews by the respective groups is inverted. I also find the rank hostility toward Whites that has become so prevalent, accepted, fashionable and brazen to be nothing short of appalling and unconscionable. I feel a deep sense of gratitude for the extraordinary kindness that I and my family, as Jews, have experienced from a mostly White and Christian United States of America.

    I must respond, however, to your statement concerning Blacks and Muslims. I am not sure I have parsed your words correctly but to the extent that you were making blanket, categorical claims, I must challenge them. The personal experiences and observations involving both Blacks as well as Muslims that I can report from my own life include many that are positive. This includes both my childhood as a secular Jew, as well as the now many years, since embracing Orthodoxy as an adolescent, that I have been quite conspicuous as a Jew.

  29. @anon
    Tiny Crow

    Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media.

    You will have to provide links to these alleged "details" on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples. Yet you did not do so in your comment, leading thoughtful people to wonder why you are so free with accusations and so stingy with facts that support said accusations.

    When will you learn to do your homework, Coronavinus? When?
    You have to do better than this if you want iSteve to notice you. Mere temper tantrums are not enough.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NXN0nIMstTY/maxresdefault.jpg

    Just in case you didn’t see it above.
    Quit being so goddamned ignorant.

    It IS all over social media. And just “dropped away”, like it never happened, from MSN news feed..Not one other news feed mentions the killers name or race.

    Here is just one of those social stories..

    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70

  30. @Buck
    Killing to avenge perceived slights of honor is as old as mankind. In fact, that's what got Saint Emmett strung up, Hamilton shot and Bukhara massacred. It's only very recently that some of humanity has set aside this practice. Most of the world's people feel unencumbered by the sanctity of the Rule of Law when it comes to honor.

    It's sort of a post-modern Western conceit that officialdom should protect personal honor. We've invented civil rights laws, H.R. departments, discrimination panels, etc. that seem to self-perpetuate rather than solve problems. The grievance armies seem to be making problems worse. But if you're a Social Justice Warrior that last thing you want is a peaceful polity.

    Now it seems, though, that the Left wants both judicial and extrajudicial justice. They want to sue for discrimination and if that doesn't work, settle it the "old-fashioned way". It's just another sign that diversity means we can't have nice things like the Rule of Law.

    It’s sort of a post-modern Western conceit that officialdom should protect personal honor. We’ve invented civil rights laws, H.R. departments, discrimination panels, etc. that seem to self-perpetuate rather than solve problems. The grievance armies seem to be making problems worse. But if you’re a Social Justice Warrior that last thing you want is a peaceful polity.

    Read this! This explains the shift from the culture of honor to that of dignity and then to that of victimhood, each with its own conflict resolution mechanisms.

    http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2015/09/honor-dignity-victimhood-and-death-of.html

    The explanation Campbell and Manning offer is a structural one. Call-out culture, as they see it, is a manifestation of a much broader shift in the way Americans perceive and resolve social conflicts. This shift is a natural and predictable response to the changing distribution of power within American society. They argue that this isn’t the first time such a shift has happened. The emerging moral matrix which gives birth to trigger warnings and call-outs is the third system of its type. Campbell and Manning describe it as a “Culture of Victimhood.” They name the moral system that preceded it a “Culture of Dignity.” Filling out the trinity is the “Culture of Honor.” Honor is the oldest conflict-resolution device of the three, and a fitting place to begin our discussion.

    ……

    The transition away from honor culture and its constant feuding took centuries, for it took centuries for new family models to develop and displace older networks of extended clans.The process went furthest with the Dutch, Welsh, English, and Scandinavians, who by the early modern period were living in “absolute nuclear families,” which have few connections to extended relatives of any type. People in these societies had to develop a new model of conflict resolution. It was from this milieu the “Culture of Dignity” would arise. We return again to Campbell and Manning:

    B) A Culture of Dignity
    The prevailing culture in the modern West is one whose moral code is nearly the exact opposite of that of an honor culture. Rather than honor, a status based primarily on public opinion, people are said to have dignity, a kind of inherent worth that cannot be alienated by others (Berger 1970; see also Leung and Cohen 2011). Dignity exists independently of what others think, so a culture of dignity is one in which public reputation is less important. Insults might provoke offense, but they no longer have the same importance as a way of establishing or destroying a reputation for bravery. It is even commendable to have “thick skin” that allows one to shrug off slights and even serious insults, and in a dignity-based society parents might teach children some version of “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me” – an idea that would be alien in a culture of honor (Leung and Cohen 2011:509). People are to avoid insulting others, too, whether intentionally or not, and in general an ethic of self-restraint prevails.

    When intolerable conflicts do arise, dignity cultures prescribe direct but non-violent actions, such as negotiated compromise geared toward solving the problem (Aslani et al. 2012). Failing this, or if the offense is sufficiently severe, people are to go to the police or appeal to the courts. Unlike the honorable, the dignified approve of appeals to third parties and condemn those who “take the law into their own hands.” For offenses like theft, assault, or breach of contract, people in a dignity culture will use law without shame. But in keeping with their ethic of restraint and toleration, it is not necessarily their first resort, and they might condemn many uses of the authorities as frivolous. People might even be expected to tolerate serious but accidental personal injuries…. The ideal in dignity cultures is thus to use the courts as quickly, quietly, and rarely as possible. The growth of law, order, and commerce in the modern world facilitated the rise of the culture of dignity, which largely supplanted the culture of honor among the middle and upper classes of the West…. [4]
    This should be more familiar to most Americans, as it was the dominant ‘moral culture’ for most of our history. Dignity is the preferred conflict resolution device for those who identify as members of a community instead of as a clan. Modern conceptions of citizenship are built upon this moral code. But the conflict resolution mechanisms built into this order and the one now emerging on university campuses differ sharply

    • Thanks: Pop Warner
    • Replies: @Fluesterwitz
    Thanks.
  31. @Tiny Duck
    It says alot about you that you deride a show thats premise is bringing racists to justice

    As for the topic we must remember that most gun crime is done by white males and usually the victims are People of Colour

    Black people commit gun crimes and murders far more often, are also the victims of murder more often by other blacks, so…you’re a moron.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes

    Black people commit gun crimes and murders far more often, are also the victims of murder more often by other blacks
     
    Quit being so parochial. Tendency evidence in the post indicates that TD was aggregating over some set of geographies that may not have included the US.
  32. @anon
    Tiny Crow

    Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media.

    You will have to provide links to these alleged "details" on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples. Yet you did not do so in your comment, leading thoughtful people to wonder why you are so free with accusations and so stingy with facts that support said accusations.

    When will you learn to do your homework, Coronavinus? When?
    You have to do better than this if you want iSteve to notice you. Mere temper tantrums are not enough.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NXN0nIMstTY/maxresdefault.jpg

    Don’ t pay any attention to Curryvinus.

  33. @bruce county
    His name is Anthony Ferrill. African American. Fired earlier that day.


    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70

    Interesting that the black shooter is wearing a Red Sox cap in that photo — aren’t they supposed to be the all-time most racist MLB franchise?

    • Replies: @Hail
    I've seen three pics of the shooter, Anthony N. Ferrill (1969–2020), each wearing a cap; in each pic, there is a different sports-franchise logo on the cap.

    So of all the things said about this case, let that one not escape attention. This man was a very-regular baseball cap wearer in his 40s and early 50s. FWIW.

  34. @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    The shooter is a black man who was fired. He must have been a terrible employee. It’s extremely difficult to fire a black due to city county state and federal diversity gestapo.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    It turns out that he wasn't fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn't. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. - rather common paranoid delusions.

    Probably he SHOULD have been fired (his co-worker accused him of watching movies on his phone instead of working plus he was starting to exhibit the above paranoid delusions ) but he wasn't. Probably they were afraid that firing such a long term black worker would trigger various age and race discrimination laws so they didn't dare fire him.

    A lot of the things about Ferrill (high skilled blue collar guy, liked guns, a touch of mental illness) could have just as well described a white guy. Not too long ago, my son bought a house "as is" that belonged to an older black man that had passed away. So the house still had all of his stuff in it - a whole life. He had lived in the house for decades. He was a similar guy to Ferrill - military veteran, blue collar job. The thing that struck me the most is that (aside from family photos) you couldn't really tell that the guy was black. He basically had the same junk and the same interests (hunting, fishing, etc.) as a white guy in his socio-economic group.

    But the belief that he was a victim of racial discrimination and the willingness to become violent seems to be something that is more common among blacks, with tragic consequences in this case.
    , @Art Deco
    It’s extremely difficult to fire a black due to city county state and federal diversity gestapo.

    It's not difficult at all. You're just at a higher risk of a lawsuit.
  35. @Red Pill Angel
    Well, something is going on, because no news reports mention the shooter's name or the victims, and there are no photos except of the dark exterior of the MillerCoors building. Scrubby-scrubby time.

    Widely named by social media reporters as Anthony Ferrill. Motive: Anti-racism.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/jussie-smolletts-fake-noose-hate-hoax-is-finally-rewarded-by-passage-of-emmett-till-antilynching-act/#comment-3739609

    A few Black twitter people were seen responding saying the five whites had it coming.

    A strange twist to the story is (it’s being reported that) Black man Anthony Ferrill and his Black wife had ties to Elizabeth Warren, were photographed with her, and had been with her campaign since mid or late 2019, in the sense at least of attending her rallies.

    • Replies: @Hail
    As of 45 minutes ago, it has broken through to the local media:

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/02/27/milwaukee-miller-coors-shooting-anthony-ferrill-identified-molsoncoors-gunman-shooter/4891164002/


    Reports emerge that Miller shooter Anthony Ferrill in longtime dispute with Molson Coors co-workers
    Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel | Feb. 27, 2020 12:23pm Central Time

    [....] Ferrill believed he was being discriminated against because he was African American and that he frequently argued with at least one of the victims, a fellow electrician.

    The co-worker said Ferrill frequently watched movies on his phone during the day, which the other electrician took issue with, and that the two accused each other of going into each others' offices and stealing tools or tampering with computer equipment.

    About a year ago, the employee said, Ferrill started saying he believed Miller workers were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around.

    "I was: 'Are you serious, Anthony? What?' We all kind of joked about it, saying we should maybe get him an aluminum hat. Things just started getting weird. But he was dead serious about it," the co-worker said. [....]

    He served in the U.S. Coast Guard from 1987 to 1991 and was honorably discharged [...]

    Neighbors said he was known to carry guns; some said he always carried a gun. [...]
     

    , @Muggles
    >>A strange twist to the story is (it’s being reported that) Black man Anthony Ferrill and his Black wife had ties to Elizabeth Warren, were photographed with her, and had been with her campaign since mid or late 2019, in the sense at least of attending her rallies.&lt.

    In one of the earlier debates Warren bragged that she had taken >100,000 selfies with supporters at various rallies. She implied that the candidate who took the most selfies w/ attendees would win, somehow.

    So this datum about this shooter could be just another desperate election gimmick by la Warren. Or, as is her custom, she could be making all of it up. Perhaps she rarely takes selfies. So she might be the Mind Control Agent who motivated this shooter. Somehow transmitting murderous thoughts via selfie stick.

    At any rate, Warren hasn't taken public credit for this mass killing of white men. Not yet anyway.

  36. @Hail
    Widely named by social media reporters as Anthony Ferrill. Motive: Anti-racism.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/jussie-smolletts-fake-noose-hate-hoax-is-finally-rewarded-by-passage-of-emmett-till-antilynching-act/#comment-3739609

    A few Black twitter people were seen responding saying the five whites had it coming.

    A strange twist to the story is (it's being reported that) Black man Anthony Ferrill and his Black wife had ties to Elizabeth Warren, were photographed with her, and had been with her campaign since mid or late 2019, in the sense at least of attending her rallies.

    As of 45 minutes ago, it has broken through to the local media:

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/02/27/milwaukee-miller-coors-shooting-anthony-ferrill-identified-molsoncoors-gunman-shooter/4891164002/

    Reports emerge that Miller shooter Anthony Ferrill in longtime dispute with Molson Coors co-workers
    Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel | Feb. 27, 2020 12:23pm Central Time

    [….] Ferrill believed he was being discriminated against because he was African American and that he frequently argued with at least one of the victims, a fellow electrician.

    The co-worker said Ferrill frequently watched movies on his phone during the day, which the other electrician took issue with, and that the two accused each other of going into each others’ offices and stealing tools or tampering with computer equipment.

    About a year ago, the employee said, Ferrill started saying he believed Miller workers were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around.

    “I was: ‘Are you serious, Anthony? What?’ We all kind of joked about it, saying we should maybe get him an aluminum hat. Things just started getting weird. But he was dead serious about it,” the co-worker said. [….]

    He served in the U.S. Coast Guard from 1987 to 1991 and was honorably discharged […]

    Neighbors said he was known to carry guns; some said he always carried a gun. […]

    • Replies: @CrunchyButRealistCon
    It certainly gives pause if are considering being anything less than fully compliant or submissive to an African American co-worker. Giving a poor annual review or meager pay raise to an AA employee will make any sensible manager take extra precautions for the weeks to follow.
    , @Hail
    Speed-bio incorporating info from article and my own research.

    Anthony N. Ferrill
    - born Jan. 22, 1969; possible origin in Texas;
    - Coast Guard, 1987 to 1991 (age 18 to 21);
    - residence in Milwaukee confirmed from 1993;
    - by late 1990s working as an electrician in Milwaukee;
    - "received a VA loan to help purchase his three-bedroom ranch home" in 2004;
    - lived in Milwaukee zip-code 53218, which had a resident population including 30,000 Blacks, 5,300 Whites, 4,500 Asians, and 1,500 Hispanics as of the mid-2010s (census). Public schools in this zip code: 88% Black. Neighborhood continued to lose Whites in the 2010s at the rate of 150/year (census estimate).

  37. Just call it “the inevitable Legacy of Slavery” and be done with it. Like Omar Thornton, you never know when they are going to flip out and start massacring white folks. After 400 Years of Slavery, Jim Crow, and Microaggressions, any one of them could turn rabid in a split second. Even that nice NAM church lady down the street.

    • Replies: @Hail

    After 400 Years of Slavery, Jim Crow, and Microaggressions
     
    This doesn't explain why recent-foreign-origin Blacks do it, too.
  38. @Hail
    As of 45 minutes ago, it has broken through to the local media:

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/02/27/milwaukee-miller-coors-shooting-anthony-ferrill-identified-molsoncoors-gunman-shooter/4891164002/


    Reports emerge that Miller shooter Anthony Ferrill in longtime dispute with Molson Coors co-workers
    Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel | Feb. 27, 2020 12:23pm Central Time

    [....] Ferrill believed he was being discriminated against because he was African American and that he frequently argued with at least one of the victims, a fellow electrician.

    The co-worker said Ferrill frequently watched movies on his phone during the day, which the other electrician took issue with, and that the two accused each other of going into each others' offices and stealing tools or tampering with computer equipment.

    About a year ago, the employee said, Ferrill started saying he believed Miller workers were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around.

    "I was: 'Are you serious, Anthony? What?' We all kind of joked about it, saying we should maybe get him an aluminum hat. Things just started getting weird. But he was dead serious about it," the co-worker said. [....]

    He served in the U.S. Coast Guard from 1987 to 1991 and was honorably discharged [...]

    Neighbors said he was known to carry guns; some said he always carried a gun. [...]
     

    It certainly gives pause if are considering being anything less than fully compliant or submissive to an African American co-worker. Giving a poor annual review or meager pay raise to an AA employee will make any sensible manager take extra precautions for the weeks to follow.

  39. @Hail
    As of 45 minutes ago, it has broken through to the local media:

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/02/27/milwaukee-miller-coors-shooting-anthony-ferrill-identified-molsoncoors-gunman-shooter/4891164002/


    Reports emerge that Miller shooter Anthony Ferrill in longtime dispute with Molson Coors co-workers
    Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel | Feb. 27, 2020 12:23pm Central Time

    [....] Ferrill believed he was being discriminated against because he was African American and that he frequently argued with at least one of the victims, a fellow electrician.

    The co-worker said Ferrill frequently watched movies on his phone during the day, which the other electrician took issue with, and that the two accused each other of going into each others' offices and stealing tools or tampering with computer equipment.

    About a year ago, the employee said, Ferrill started saying he believed Miller workers were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around.

    "I was: 'Are you serious, Anthony? What?' We all kind of joked about it, saying we should maybe get him an aluminum hat. Things just started getting weird. But he was dead serious about it," the co-worker said. [....]

    He served in the U.S. Coast Guard from 1987 to 1991 and was honorably discharged [...]

    Neighbors said he was known to carry guns; some said he always carried a gun. [...]
     

    Speed-bio incorporating info from article and my own research.

    Anthony N. Ferrill
    – born Jan. 22, 1969; possible origin in Texas;
    – Coast Guard, 1987 to 1991 (age 18 to 21);
    – residence in Milwaukee confirmed from 1993;
    – by late 1990s working as an electrician in Milwaukee;
    – “received a VA loan to help purchase his three-bedroom ranch home” in 2004;
    – lived in Milwaukee zip-code 53218, which had a resident population including 30,000 Blacks, 5,300 Whites, 4,500 Asians, and 1,500 Hispanics as of the mid-2010s (census). Public schools in this zip code: 88% Black. Neighborhood continued to lose Whites in the 2010s at the rate of 150/year (census estimate).

  40. @anon
    Tiny Crow

    Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media.

    You will have to provide links to these alleged "details" on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples. Yet you did not do so in your comment, leading thoughtful people to wonder why you are so free with accusations and so stingy with facts that support said accusations.

    When will you learn to do your homework, Coronavinus? When?
    You have to do better than this if you want iSteve to notice you. Mere temper tantrums are not enough.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NXN0nIMstTY/maxresdefault.jpg

    Corvinus or Coronavirus ?

    • LOL: Federalist
  41. @anon
    Tiny Crow

    Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media.

    You will have to provide links to these alleged "details" on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples. Yet you did not do so in your comment, leading thoughtful people to wonder why you are so free with accusations and so stingy with facts that support said accusations.

    When will you learn to do your homework, Coronavinus? When?
    You have to do better than this if you want iSteve to notice you. Mere temper tantrums are not enough.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NXN0nIMstTY/maxresdefault.jpg

    Just in case you didn’t see it above.
    Quit being so goddamned ignorant. It IS all over social media. And just “dropped away”, like it never happened, from MSN news feed..Not one other news feed mentions the killers name or race.
    Here is just one of those social stories..
    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70

  42. @anon
    Tiny Crow

    Neither those reports of the gunman’s issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those “details” were prevalent across social media.

    You will have to provide links to these alleged "details" on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky “I told you so”, OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples. Yet you did not do so in your comment, leading thoughtful people to wonder why you are so free with accusations and so stingy with facts that support said accusations.

    When will you learn to do your homework, Coronavinus? When?
    You have to do better than this if you want iSteve to notice you. Mere temper tantrums are not enough.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NXN0nIMstTY/maxresdefault.jpg

    “You will have to provide links to these alleged “details” on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.”

    Mr. Sailer provided the link in his opening paragraph. Comments 7 and 8 also provide sources.

    “If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples.”

    For starters, this posting.

    Then there is this doozy–https://www.unz.com/isteve/my-review-of-adam-rutherfords-how-to-argue-with-a-racist

    • Replies: @anon

    “You will have to provide links to these alleged “details” on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.”
     
    Mr. Sailer provided the link in his opening paragraph.

    He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you? Now we'll have to ask you to define your terms: what do you mean by "social media", Coronavinus?

    Comments 7 and 8 also provide sources.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk. Copying someone else's work is just not acceptable. Do your own work, there's a good boy.

    Tiny Crow also wrote:
    Except our world is not always as predictable as inductive reasoning suggests, and we may selectively draw upon past experiences to confirm a belief.

    However in this case inductive reasoning functioned quite well, as one would expect given the utterly predictable behaviour of the politicized American media: because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black. The pattern has been obvious for years to anyone with average intelligence and an ability to Notice these things. Whether the murdered will be accused of bringing justifiable homicide on themselves by saying a forbidden word or not isn't yet clear. But no adult should be surprised if that happens.

    By the way, the British media, or as you might call them "the British social media", indeed Noticed who the murderer is. Now, don't you feel silly? You should.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8052773/MillerCoors-employee-shot-dead-five-colleagues-identified.html

    Tiny Crow, you'll just have to do better than this if you want Steve to Notice you.

    https://ianmountford.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/toddler-crying.jpg
  43. @Jus' Sayin'...
    Woo Hoo, Black Duck. Steve Sailer, like myself and many other "woke" readers of this column, was utilizing past experience to make an inductive inference. That he, I, and so many others were once again right is further empirical confirmation of the technique.

    “Woo Hoo, Black Duck. Steve Sailer, like myself and many other “woke” readers of this column, was utilizing past experience to make an inductive inference.”

    Except our world is not always as predictable as inductive reasoning suggests, and we may selectively draw upon past experiences to confirm a belief.

  44. @BenKenobi
    So, she intends to make allegedly very dangerous people have nothing left to lose except their lives?

    I hope it turns out the way she expects.

    They know it will just result in a couple dozen deaths each time, and will give a good excuse to bring in more security measures. You have to be naive to think some white guys killing a couple of other people really scares the system, the fear factor is just a charade.

  45. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It’s anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles. I’m surprised Al Pacino would participate in it. Not sure what he’s getting paid but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the show is being funded by the richest man in the world.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It’s anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles."

    Man, the stench of Fake News is strong around these parts!
    , @El Dato
    Even the who are unhappy:

    Historical inaccuracy and ‘human chess’ – Auschwitz Memorial slams Amazon’s Nazi-hunting series


    One scene features rows of prisoners standing on a life-sized chessboard, as Nazi guards call out moves. Should a ‘piece’ be bumped off the board, he or she is summarily murdered. Such a game never took place.

    The Auschwitz Memorial in Poland reacted with anger. “Auschwitz was full of horrible pain and suffering,” the organization tweeted on Sunday. “Inventing a fake game of human chess… is not only dangerous foolishness & caricature. It also welcomes future deniers.”
     

    This reminds me that Enki Bilal engineered a comic about settling of accounts between veterans of the Spanish "Civil War". That was back in the 80s and he made it clear that there was something ridiculous and pointless about aged Reds deploying arms to remove aged Franquists from premises, even if the latter were into burning down Spanish villages, attacking Italian Communists on stage, or blowing up rock concerts for some reason.

    https://i.imgur.com/nMW8tFw.jpg

    (No black are in that story, btw.)

    , @Twodees Partain
    Pacino would probably be glad to take any job he can get. He's a drunk who has torn his ticket with so many producers that he's lucky to still be working at all.
  46. @Tim
    Don't hire blacks. Problem solved.

    The Jim Crow system didn’t solve the Negro Problem. Marginalizing people doesn’t make them invisible or less resentful.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    Freedom of association has nothing to do with Jim Crow.

    We have been throwing trillions of dollars at the NQ for 60 years and they are more resentful now than ever.
    , @Pop Warner
    But it did keep them physically separated, which is what is most immediate and important
    , @Medvedev
    Separation, giving Blacks safe spaces so they don't have to face evil pesky White racists anymore is ... marginalizing. Just another proof that separation is the best answer. Blacks complain and accuse Whites in everything possible and call them waycist all the time. No matter how hard you try, bend over backward or discriminate other Whites to please Blacks they will still call you waycist.
  47. @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    Thanks for being the conscience of the internet. But it has now been confirmed by official sources: mass murder by black man justified by racism.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "But it has now been confirmed by official sources: mass murder by black man justified by racism."

    Not exactly. Apparently, the shooter was involved long-running dispute with one co-worker that boiled over. It is other than surprising that those in the immediate vicinity would also be shot. They just happened to be white. Rage has a way of not being discriminating.

    Regarding the shooter, "He was a very good electrician, a very good worker and I couldn’t say anything bad about the guy," said Phillip Rauch Sr., who retired in April after working with Ferrill for 15 years. "Every time I worked with him he was always in a good mood."

    I believe Rauch is white.

  48. @fnn

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It’s about brutal sadism directed at American “nazis”. Hint: The “nazis” are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it’s just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren’t playing around. (adult language in trailer).
     
    Jewish SJW attorney celebrates the fact that ant-Regime public protest is now impossible and the result is a rise in mass shootings:
    https://momentmag.com/roberta-kaplan-takes-white-supremacy-to-court/

    We absolutely can and will bankrupt these groups. And then we will chase these people around for the rest of their lives. So if they try to buy a new home, we will put a lien on the home. If they get a new job, we will garnish their wages. The reason to do that is because we want to create a deterrence impact. So we send a message to other people that if you try to do something like this, the same thing will happen to you. And it already has been a deterrence. We’re seeing lone shooters now; we’re not seeing the kind of massively organized conspiracy we saw in Charlottesville. And I think that’s in large part due to our case.
     

    Thanks — an attorney who argued for gay marriage at SCOTUS.

    Another reminder that the courts aren’t much on the conservative side. I wonder how much they’ll eviscerate the Boy Scouts.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Another reminder that the courts aren’t much on the conservative side. I wonder how much they’ll eviscerate the Boy Scouts.
     
    The Boy Scouts are eviscerating the Girl Scouts.


    https://newschannel9.com/resources/media/dfa214fc-2fa9-4899-a57c-53dacdb5e26d-large16x9_Troop1010ScoutsBSA.jpg?1549045573115
  49. @Tim
    Don't hire blacks. Problem solved.

    Some obsessive put together a list of incidents in 2019 wherein multiple people were shot. He catalogues 240 incidents over the last six months of the year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019#List

    A grand total of four incidents occurred in workplaces. You ought to consider re-imposing prohibition, because a great many of these seem to occur in bars at closing time.

    You have 19 million employed blacks in this country, but you’re not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite. I can tell you’d make a crackerjack actuary.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Sometimes they wait awhile before torturing and murdering their employers.

    https://wtop.com/dc/2018/09/tortured-and-killed-in-kalorama-revisiting-2015-mansion-murder-case-as-trial-nears/

    Your sanctimony noted as usual. No relation here to the judge.
    , @J.Ross
    If that was the only problem then maybe that argument would make sense, except for the use of the word actuary, because just guessing here but they probably usually look at more than one factor.
    -------
    Turkey is dumping all its "Syrian" "refugees," plus any more who'd like to join them, on Europe all at once. Retaliation for a Russian bombing in Syria which killed Turkish soldiers. Yesterday or the day before there was already rioting on Lesbos, with a group of police trapped in a building, because of having to accommodate all these "refugees" after suffering a massive economic collapse.
    , @BenKenobi
    If it saves just one life, we should ban _______.
    , @Federalist

    ...19 million employed blacks in this country, but you’re not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite.
     
    You would be right if the only thing we had to worry about was mass shootings.

    Also, are you saying that 3 of the 4 workplace mass shootings were committed by blacks? I thought it was 13=50. Not 13=75.
  50. WTF. Why am I in moderation??

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
    This is a feature, not a bug!
  51. @Big Bill
    Just call it "the inevitable Legacy of Slavery" and be done with it. Like Omar Thornton, you never know when they are going to flip out and start massacring white folks. After 400 Years of Slavery, Jim Crow, and Microaggressions, any one of them could turn rabid in a split second. Even that nice NAM church lady down the street.

    After 400 Years of Slavery, Jim Crow, and Microaggressions

    This doesn’t explain why recent-foreign-origin Blacks do it, too.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    It actually doesn't explain anything, other than the lengths silly cloud people will go to in attempting to justify the behavior of primitive people who not compatible with Western Civilization.
  52. @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    From the article cited by Sailer:

    Law enforcement officials have yet to formally release the shooter’s identity, but a series of conversations were posted across social media based on reporting from journalist Matthew Keys who quoted a “law enforcement source.” The unconfirmed statements gave some background information about Ferrill’s work history and his employment situation as an African American, without providing evidence.

    “The shooter at Millers Coors was reported to suffer racial discrimination and harassment from white co-workers. He recently filed a civil lawsuit against Miller Coors’s racist work environment. The racist white co-workers had hung a hangman noose on his locker. He was rehired after the lawsuit five years ago. The white racist male harassment continue when he returned to work at Miller Coors. The racist white co-workers this time humiliated the 51-year-old African American male by pasting spade cards on his work locker and making his workday unbearable with white male racist antics. The Brother evidently was forced over the edge of sanity to make a violent act to end Miller Coors workforce racist harassment. Miller Coors has a long history of tolerating its white brewery worker racist behavior and acts against Black brewery workers.”
    – Tony Muhammad, Milwaukee resident

  53. @Art Deco
    Some obsessive put together a list of incidents in 2019 wherein multiple people were shot. He catalogues 240 incidents over the last six months of the year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019#List


    A grand total of four incidents occurred in workplaces. You ought to consider re-imposing prohibition, because a great many of these seem to occur in bars at closing time.


    You have 19 million employed blacks in this country, but you're not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite. I can tell you'd make a crackerjack actuary.

    Sometimes they wait awhile before torturing and murdering their employers.

    https://wtop.com/dc/2018/09/tortured-and-killed-in-kalorama-revisiting-2015-mansion-murder-case-as-trial-nears/

    Your sanctimony noted as usual. No relation here to the judge.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The term 'sanctimony' does not mean what you think it means. The term is 'sarcasm', and that's just what 'Tim' deserves. You don't want sarcasm, don't say blatantly stupid (and malicious) things. Works for most of us.
  54. @fnn

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It’s about brutal sadism directed at American “nazis”. Hint: The “nazis” are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it’s just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren’t playing around. (adult language in trailer).
     
    Jewish SJW attorney celebrates the fact that ant-Regime public protest is now impossible and the result is a rise in mass shootings:
    https://momentmag.com/roberta-kaplan-takes-white-supremacy-to-court/

    We absolutely can and will bankrupt these groups. And then we will chase these people around for the rest of their lives. So if they try to buy a new home, we will put a lien on the home. If they get a new job, we will garnish their wages. The reason to do that is because we want to create a deterrence impact. So we send a message to other people that if you try to do something like this, the same thing will happen to you. And it already has been a deterrence. We’re seeing lone shooters now; we’re not seeing the kind of massively organized conspiracy we saw in Charlottesville. And I think that’s in large part due to our case.
     

    Take her quote to mean white people in general, and you really do have their recipe in sum. For garnish? Their ‘shock troops’ actually torturing, maiming, and murdering; and their mass media enforcing silence about all of it.

  55. @Bugg
    HBO is also promoting the shit out of some alternate history show with Charles Lindbergh as an American Nazi leader. Lindbergh was a patriot who saw FDR was trying to get us into war sooner than later. He visited Germany, but once war was declared fought bravely in the Pacific. He did not hate Jews, and has been hounded in history for one errant line in one speech.

    How many "Nazis are the greatest threat to 2020 America" shows is Hollywood going to produce? The reality; may be you've probably got a John Demjanyuk or 2 hiding out there drooling in a nursing home, and 10-15 toothless losers with 6th grade educations with some KKK and Nazi stuff who could not fill the kindergarten classroom at your typical suburban school. That's it. There is no secret gentile white Bund out there. What "anti-semites" we do have are a legion of Muslims, black converts and Islamic immigrants, plus a mess of lower class blacks who all hate and occasionally beat up Jews. As usual, liberals want to have a conversation only if it makes them feel good, but not if solve problems.

    How many “Nazis are the greatest threat to 2020 America” shows is Hollywood going to produce?

    How many hours in a week?

    PS: All the GoodWhites I know lap this stuff up. Ask them about it and they’ll say “Oh, I can’t have this conversation.”

  56. @bomag
    Thanks -- an attorney who argued for gay marriage at SCOTUS.

    Another reminder that the courts aren't much on the conservative side. I wonder how much they'll eviscerate the Boy Scouts.

    Another reminder that the courts aren’t much on the conservative side. I wonder how much they’ll eviscerate the Boy Scouts.

    The Boy Scouts are eviscerating the Girl Scouts.

  57. @Tim
    Don't hire blacks. Problem solved.

    Don’t hire blacks. Problem solved.

    You’re 400 years too late with this advice.

    • Agree: Federalist
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Remember, more Africans have migrated to the USA in any recent ten-year period of their own free will than were transported here over the entire 200+ years of the slave trade. That’s how bad it is here for Africans–we simply can’t keep them from flocking here. And this is just counting legal migrants. Whatever racism actually is, it’s proving impossible to prevent Africans from being attracted to it. They simply can’t get enough.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/21/nyregion/more-africans-enter-us-than-in-days-of-slavery.html

    African migration has ramped up considerably since that article was published.

    What this means, anyway, is that even if this country had never imported a single African slave, we'd still be dealing with millions of Africans, in their glorious, manifold manifestations. Because Reasons, as Steve likes to say.
    , @Hail

    400 years too late
     
    An (ironic) reference to 1619.

    I am sure I'm not the only one annoyed by the elite media's fixation on "1619" as some kind religious-significance-like, racial founding year, the Black race's glorious entry into British North America.

    The whole 1619 mythos, recently imposed from above, which many on the right-third of the awareness-of-things bell curve will know predates Plymouth Rock, again subtly ascribes a kind of moral superiority to Blacks in America.

    But 1619 is wrong, in spirit anyway. Black presence and slavery were negligible through the 1680s, and only emergent in 1680s–1740s period. There were some Black individuals before that , but never above the low single-digits in percentage anywhere.

    Chattel slavery via imported Africans only really begins to emerge in the 1680s and 1690s, and fully 'institutionalize' later still. The process was largely completed by 1750, by which time Blacks had been increased to 40% of the lowland South population, and there stabilized; this up from the trivial numbers they had before importations began in earnest in the ca. 1690.

    So the origin of Black America is really more like 18th century Q2, arguably even Q3. (I think absolute-numbers of imports peaked in 18th century Q3.) In the meantime, white settlement in North America had firmly carved out a place for Western civilization on the continent, a quintessential example of the Heroic Age archetype historians speak of.

  58. @Hail

    After 400 Years of Slavery, Jim Crow, and Microaggressions
     
    This doesn't explain why recent-foreign-origin Blacks do it, too.

    It actually doesn’t explain anything, other than the lengths silly cloud people will go to in attempting to justify the behavior of primitive people who not compatible with Western Civilization.

  59. @Fun
    The Jim Crow system didn't solve the Negro Problem. Marginalizing people doesn't make them invisible or less resentful.

    Freedom of association has nothing to do with Jim Crow.

    We have been throwing trillions of dollars at the NQ for 60 years and they are more resentful now than ever.

  60. Shooting? What shooting?

  61. @bruce county
    His name is Anthony Ferrill. African American. Fired earlier that day.


    https://hispanicnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2020/02/deceased-shooter-at-molson-coors.html?spref=fb&m=1&fbclid=IwAR265Z9pgc7zeW4jMTE9tUfjWz2M7pMcFxgHASV6u369dY-8SXozDUXmT70

    His name is Anthony Ferrill. African American. Fired earlier that day.

    Well, that settles it, then!! The shootings were completely justified, “b/c wypipo be rayciss and sheeit.” Obviously self-defense, because he was afraid the wypipo would lynch him. That’s why Congress just passed that Federal lynching law, right??? C’mon, the poor guy was living the Black Holocaust, for God’s sakes…

    Nothing to see here, kids, move along now…

  62. anon[515] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "You will have to provide links to these alleged “details” on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media."

    Mr. Sailer provided the link in his opening paragraph. Comments 7 and 8 also provide sources.

    "If this is so common it should be easy for you to provide links to previous iSteve postings as examples."

    For starters, this posting.

    Then there is this doozy--https://www.unz.com/isteve/my-review-of-adam-rutherfords-how-to-argue-with-a-racist

    “You will have to provide links to these alleged “details” on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.”

    Mr. Sailer provided the link in his opening paragraph.

    He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you? Now we’ll have to ask you to define your terms: what do you mean by “social media”, Coronavinus?

    Comments 7 and 8 also provide sources.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk. Copying someone else’s work is just not acceptable. Do your own work, there’s a good boy.

    Tiny Crow also wrote:
    Except our world is not always as predictable as inductive reasoning suggests, and we may selectively draw upon past experiences to confirm a belief.

    However in this case inductive reasoning functioned quite well, as one would expect given the utterly predictable behaviour of the politicized American media: because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black. The pattern has been obvious for years to anyone with average intelligence and an ability to Notice these things. Whether the murdered will be accused of bringing justifiable homicide on themselves by saying a forbidden word or not isn’t yet clear. But no adult should be surprised if that happens.

    By the way, the British media, or as you might call them “the British social media”, indeed Noticed who the murderer is. Now, don’t you feel silly? You should.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8052773/MillerCoors-employee-shot-dead-five-colleagues-identified.html

    Tiny Crow, you’ll just have to do better than this if you want Steve to Notice you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you?"

    The details, which were unconfirmed, came from social media. The link Mr. Sailer provided was a source who highlighted those details. Try paying closer attention.

    "because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "By the way, the British media, or as you might call them “the British social media”, indeed Noticed who the murderer is."

    Actually, it appears that the British media reported it AFTER the Journal-Sentinel. That is, the Daily Mail ran the story after the identity was first confirmed by Milwaukee media.
  63. @Art Deco
    Some obsessive put together a list of incidents in 2019 wherein multiple people were shot. He catalogues 240 incidents over the last six months of the year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019#List


    A grand total of four incidents occurred in workplaces. You ought to consider re-imposing prohibition, because a great many of these seem to occur in bars at closing time.


    You have 19 million employed blacks in this country, but you're not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite. I can tell you'd make a crackerjack actuary.

    If that was the only problem then maybe that argument would make sense, except for the use of the word actuary, because just guessing here but they probably usually look at more than one factor.
    ——-
    Turkey is dumping all its “Syrian” “refugees,” plus any more who’d like to join them, on Europe all at once. Retaliation for a Russian bombing in Syria which killed Turkish soldiers. Yesterday or the day before there was already rioting on Lesbos, with a group of police trapped in a building, because of having to accommodate all these “refugees” after suffering a massive economic collapse.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    What does this have to do with Syrian refugees?



    If that was the only problem then maybe that argument would make sense,

    Uh, that was the problem under discussion. That aside, people hired blacks under a free labor system for 70-odd years before any state or federal agency was given the task of doing them favors. The reason you hire someone is because the transaction (cash for labor) improves your welfare. Which doesn't seem to occur to combox clowns who make a hobby of flashing their middle finger.
  64. @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you, Bruce, and same to Hail for his continual work inserting biographic info. under the posts.

    Do you all see why I don't use the standard media infotainment for news? I'd rather just read sites I like and get the news indirectly, without that Ministry-o-Truth middleman.

    I was THIS close to watching the D-debates Monday night just for giggles, but apparently we REALLY don't get any TV anymore. We haven't had cable in 20 years, or any internet-based deal, but I switched the TV from HDMI input to our local digital-over-the-air channels, having put a free antenna up on the roof 7 years. back. "No Signal" Nice! I switched back to HDMI and stuck in Day of the Jackel instead. Those Citroens are some ugly-ass cars, but it still beat the hell out of watching a group of Commie retards spouting off from Charleston.

    Thank you, Bruce, and same to Hail for his continual work inserting biographic info. under the posts.

    Do you all see why I don’t use the standard media infotainment for news? I’d rather just read sites I like and get the news indirectly, without that Ministry-o-Truth middleman.

    Same here. Sometimes, however, I can’t get out of the bedroom soon enough to avoid hearing the most outrageous of lies from Savannah Guthrie and her henchmen.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    I told my very self hating, anti white, liberal cousin I would pay her mortgage off if the shooter was white.. Apparently it was a very safe bet.
  65. @Anonymous
    Milwaukee police haven’t released any identifying characteristics of the gunman other than his age and that he was a “Milwaukee area man.” If that doesn’t tell you something, you lack critical thinking.

    “Milwaukee police haven’t released any identifying characteristics of the gunman other than his age and that he was a “Milwaukee area man.”

    Not exactly.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2020/02/27/milwaukee-molson-coors-shooting-police-identify-victims-gunman/4895654002/

  66. @Federalist
    Thanks for being the conscience of the internet. But it has now been confirmed by official sources: mass murder by black man justified by racism.

    “But it has now been confirmed by official sources: mass murder by black man justified by racism.”

    Not exactly. Apparently, the shooter was involved long-running dispute with one co-worker that boiled over. It is other than surprising that those in the immediate vicinity would also be shot. They just happened to be white. Rage has a way of not being discriminating.

    Regarding the shooter, “He was a very good electrician, a very good worker and I couldn’t say anything bad about the guy,” said Phillip Rauch Sr., who retired in April after working with Ferrill for 15 years. “Every time I worked with him he was always in a good mood.”

    I believe Rauch is white.

    • Replies: @Federalist

    I couldn't say anything bad about the guy.
     
    . . . except that he's a mass murderer.

    Every time I worked with him he was always in a good mood.
     
    Well, maybe not always.
    , @Dr. Krieger
    Riiiight... because a white guy being interviewed on TV has absolutely no reason to "stretch the truth" and speak glowingly of a black guy. It's not like white people face any financial and social consequences for speaking ill of the Saintly Black Race, publically.

    Go on TV and call a black criminal a thug. See what you get.
  67. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    So she's a nominally Maltese graduate of the London School of Economics? Interesting ...
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    If she's such a superhero, perhaps this negress should just move back to Wakanda so she can hang out with other negro superheros.

    The replies to that tweet are 50/50 based/woke. I'm surprised that Cap'n Jack Twitter hasn't already deleted the based replies.

  68. @Hail
    Widely named by social media reporters as Anthony Ferrill. Motive: Anti-racism.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/jussie-smolletts-fake-noose-hate-hoax-is-finally-rewarded-by-passage-of-emmett-till-antilynching-act/#comment-3739609

    A few Black twitter people were seen responding saying the five whites had it coming.

    A strange twist to the story is (it's being reported that) Black man Anthony Ferrill and his Black wife had ties to Elizabeth Warren, were photographed with her, and had been with her campaign since mid or late 2019, in the sense at least of attending her rallies.

    >>A strange twist to the story is (it’s being reported that) Black man Anthony Ferrill and his Black wife had ties to Elizabeth Warren, were photographed with her, and had been with her campaign since mid or late 2019, in the sense at least of attending her rallies.&lt.

    In one of the earlier debates Warren bragged that she had taken >100,000 selfies with supporters at various rallies. She implied that the candidate who took the most selfies w/ attendees would win, somehow.

    So this datum about this shooter could be just another desperate election gimmick by la Warren. Or, as is her custom, she could be making all of it up. Perhaps she rarely takes selfies. So she might be the Mind Control Agent who motivated this shooter. Somehow transmitting murderous thoughts via selfie stick.

    At any rate, Warren hasn’t taken public credit for this mass killing of white men. Not yet anyway.

  69. @RichardTaylor

    Back in those innocent pre-Great Awokening days, I was shocked that some of the media took seriously Thornton’s allegation that the eight dead white men had it coming because they were racist.
     
    Yeah, I gotta say ... why would anyone find this shocking? White people have been demonized with increasing ferocity for several generations.

    Sometimes it's important to pay attention to the emotions people display (SJWs), not just a dry analysis of their "arguments". If you look at their statements too dispassionately, you miss the true intention.

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It's about brutal sadism directed at American "nazis". Hint: The "nazis" are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it's just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren't playing around. (adult language in trailer).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U4OTJKBko

    The reason consistently given for the censorship right-wing content is the fear that it will unintentionally nudge, encourage, or create evil white terrorists, but aggressively encouraging black terrorism is always okay, and actually saturates the entertainment landscape. Furthermore, blacks are much more suggestible than whites. There are no Phantom Nazis who acted on One Wierd Movie Scene. There are plenty of black criminals obsessed with certain entertainment products, not only in the recent BLM cop defamation campaign, but in such examples as the mother who showed her daughters the bank robbery movie Set It Off. This is a regular thing with them.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
  70. @ben tillman

    Thank you, Bruce, and same to Hail for his continual work inserting biographic info. under the posts.

    Do you all see why I don’t use the standard media infotainment for news? I’d rather just read sites I like and get the news indirectly, without that Ministry-o-Truth middleman.
     
    Same here. Sometimes, however, I can't get out of the bedroom soon enough to avoid hearing the most outrageous of lies from Savannah Guthrie and her henchmen.

    I told my very self hating, anti white, liberal cousin I would pay her mortgage off if the shooter was white.. Apparently it was a very safe bet.

    • LOL: ben tillman
  71. @Tiny Duck
    It says alot about you that you deride a show thats premise is bringing racists to justice

    As for the topic we must remember that most gun crime is done by white males and usually the victims are People of Colour

    Ohs Tinys…..wut do Lendbert Pitz hab to say bout dis TB shows….

  72. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/PrimeVideo/status/1231341645796446208

    So she’s a nominally Maltese graduate of the London School of Economics? Interesting …

  73. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/PrimeVideo/status/1231341645796446208

    If she’s such a superhero, perhaps this negress should just move back to Wakanda so she can hang out with other negro superheros.

    The replies to that tweet are 50/50 based/woke. I’m surprised that Cap’n Jack Twitter hasn’t already deleted the based replies.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1234196715391135750
  74. At the moment in time when black leaders and anointed allies were still publicly tearing their hair out in rage over the near-lynching of Jussie Smollett, a black man named Gary Montez Martin went into his Chicagoland workplace and gunned down and killed a bunch (five) of his co-workers. All white men and one white hispanic as I recall. No connections were drawn outside of those made in my own head

  75. @education realist
    Another shooting that got completely memory-holed was the Cupertino Quarry shooting. The guy was hanging around the neighborhood near Apple and HP, shooting an HP worker to try and steal her car, for an entire day until he was shot himself when the cops finally spotted him. But he was black and it happened with legally owned guns in the most liberal state in the union, so nothing to see.

    And another. The story got a little early excited media coverage but once the facts came out, the story disappeared.

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-fresno-shooting-20170418-story.html

  76. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's pretty sick. I wonder if Jeff Bezos knows all that goes on over his Prime Network.

    I’m sure he does.

    He has his own newspaper that can inform him, after all.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  77. @Fun
    The Jim Crow system didn't solve the Negro Problem. Marginalizing people doesn't make them invisible or less resentful.

    But it did keep them physically separated, which is what is most immediate and important

  78. @Malcolm X-Lax
    I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It's anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles. I'm surprised Al Pacino would participate in it. Not sure what he's getting paid but I don't think it's a coincidence that the show is being funded by the richest man in the world.

    “I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It’s anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles.”

    Man, the stench of Fake News is strong around these parts!

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    The first sentence is page-one reporting; the second, an Op-Ed.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Man, the stench of Fake News is strong around these parts!
     
    What is fake about what he said, you simpering nitwit?
  79. @Malcolm X-Lax
    I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It's anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles. I'm surprised Al Pacino would participate in it. Not sure what he's getting paid but I don't think it's a coincidence that the show is being funded by the richest man in the world.

    Even the who are unhappy:

    Historical inaccuracy and ‘human chess’ – Auschwitz Memorial slams Amazon’s Nazi-hunting series

    One scene features rows of prisoners standing on a life-sized chessboard, as Nazi guards call out moves. Should a ‘piece’ be bumped off the board, he or she is summarily murdered. Such a game never took place.

    The Auschwitz Memorial in Poland reacted with anger. “Auschwitz was full of horrible pain and suffering,” the organization tweeted on Sunday. “Inventing a fake game of human chess… is not only dangerous foolishness & caricature. It also welcomes future deniers.”

    This reminds me that Enki Bilal engineered a comic about settling of accounts between veterans of the Spanish “Civil War”. That was back in the 80s and he made it clear that there was something ridiculous and pointless about aged Reds deploying arms to remove aged Franquists from premises, even if the latter were into burning down Spanish villages, attacking Italian Communists on stage, or blowing up rock concerts for some reason.

    (No black are in that story, btw.)

  80. @Art Deco
    Some obsessive put together a list of incidents in 2019 wherein multiple people were shot. He catalogues 240 incidents over the last six months of the year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019#List


    A grand total of four incidents occurred in workplaces. You ought to consider re-imposing prohibition, because a great many of these seem to occur in bars at closing time.


    You have 19 million employed blacks in this country, but you're not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite. I can tell you'd make a crackerjack actuary.

    If it saves just one life, we should ban _______.

    • Replies: @Helo
    Blacks.
  81. @Buck
    Killing to avenge perceived slights of honor is as old as mankind. In fact, that's what got Saint Emmett strung up, Hamilton shot and Bukhara massacred. It's only very recently that some of humanity has set aside this practice. Most of the world's people feel unencumbered by the sanctity of the Rule of Law when it comes to honor.

    It's sort of a post-modern Western conceit that officialdom should protect personal honor. We've invented civil rights laws, H.R. departments, discrimination panels, etc. that seem to self-perpetuate rather than solve problems. The grievance armies seem to be making problems worse. But if you're a Social Justice Warrior that last thing you want is a peaceful polity.

    Now it seems, though, that the Left wants both judicial and extrajudicial justice. They want to sue for discrimination and if that doesn't work, settle it the "old-fashioned way". It's just another sign that diversity means we can't have nice things like the Rule of Law.

    Hamilton was challenged to a duel over an offense against honor, not a perceived slight. Whatever the failings on his part, Aaron Burr did humanity a great service when he faced Hamilton on the field of honor and lit his ass up.

    • Replies: @captflee
    If he had accomplished nothing else, putting an end to Hamilton and his baleful influence on the young republic by itself places Burr highly among the Immortals of the Founding Generation.

    As regards the very concept of honor, even here amongst the Stevetariate you will find more than a few who cannot conceive of its existence, much less its societal efficacy.
  82. @Malcolm X-Lax
    I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It's anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles. I'm surprised Al Pacino would participate in it. Not sure what he's getting paid but I don't think it's a coincidence that the show is being funded by the richest man in the world.

    Pacino would probably be glad to take any job he can get. He’s a drunk who has torn his ticket with so many producers that he’s lucky to still be working at all.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    It's funny because at times he doesn't seem to be acting so much as doing a really over-the-top comedic parody of an old jewish man.
  83. @anon

    “You will have to provide links to these alleged “details” on social media, plus a detailed examination of the crime as presented in the media.”
     
    Mr. Sailer provided the link in his opening paragraph.

    He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you? Now we'll have to ask you to define your terms: what do you mean by "social media", Coronavinus?

    Comments 7 and 8 also provide sources.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk. Copying someone else's work is just not acceptable. Do your own work, there's a good boy.

    Tiny Crow also wrote:
    Except our world is not always as predictable as inductive reasoning suggests, and we may selectively draw upon past experiences to confirm a belief.

    However in this case inductive reasoning functioned quite well, as one would expect given the utterly predictable behaviour of the politicized American media: because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black. The pattern has been obvious for years to anyone with average intelligence and an ability to Notice these things. Whether the murdered will be accused of bringing justifiable homicide on themselves by saying a forbidden word or not isn't yet clear. But no adult should be surprised if that happens.

    By the way, the British media, or as you might call them "the British social media", indeed Noticed who the murderer is. Now, don't you feel silly? You should.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8052773/MillerCoors-employee-shot-dead-five-colleagues-identified.html

    Tiny Crow, you'll just have to do better than this if you want Steve to Notice you.

    https://ianmountford.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/toddler-crying.jpg

    “He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you?”

    The details, which were unconfirmed, came from social media. The link Mr. Sailer provided was a source who highlighted those details. Try paying closer attention.

    “because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “By the way, the British media, or as you might call them “the British social media”, indeed Noticed who the murderer is.”

    Actually, it appears that the British media reported it AFTER the Journal-Sentinel. That is, the Daily Mail ran the story after the identity was first confirmed by Milwaukee media.

    • Replies: @anon
    “He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you?”

    The details, which were unconfirmed, came from social media. The link Mr. Sailer provided was a source who highlighted those details. Try paying closer attention.

    I didn't ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you.

    “because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it's right in front of you for years or not?

    “By the way, the British media, or as you might call them “the British social media”, indeed Noticed who the murderer is.”

    Actually, it appears that the British media reported it AFTER the Journal-Sentinel. That is, the Daily Mail ran the story after the identity was first confirmed by Milwaukee media.

    You'll have to provide the relevant timeline in detail to support this. Don't forget the time zone difference between Milwaukee and the UK. Have fun!

    Incidentally, isn't this crime a disappointment to you? It doesn't fit into any Narrative you might subscribe to.

  84. @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t hire blacks. Problem solved.
     
    You're 400 years too late with this advice.



    https://s.france24.com/media/display/e577da94-c1bd-11e9-9648-005056a964fe/w:1240/p:16x9/arrivee_esclave_1619_0.jpeg

    Remember, more Africans have migrated to the USA in any recent ten-year period of their own free will than were transported here over the entire 200+ years of the slave trade. That’s how bad it is here for Africans–we simply can’t keep them from flocking here. And this is just counting legal migrants. Whatever racism actually is, it’s proving impossible to prevent Africans from being attracted to it. They simply can’t get enough.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/21/nyregion/more-africans-enter-us-than-in-days-of-slavery.html

    African migration has ramped up considerably since that article was published.

    What this means, anyway, is that even if this country had never imported a single African slave, we’d still be dealing with millions of Africans, in their glorious, manifold manifestations. Because Reasons, as Steve likes to say.

    • Agree: bruce county, HammerJack
    • Replies: @MB
    Yo dude, they come here to fight racism, white that is (the only kind), because there ain't any where they come from.

    Gotta go where the action is, as they say.
    You not complain' are you?
    We might have to send some of the boys around to 'just your attitude.

    cheers, pal

    , @PaceLaw
    Thanks for sharing the link to the NYTimes article as it is very informative. It is quite fascinating that Africans see nothing but opportunity in this great country and are grateful to be here, while African Americans are remorselessly resentful and seemingly prefer to live in past, what with all of the fetishistic talk of lynching (Emmett Till, is that you?), Jim Crow and slavery. In some perverse sense, it seems like that community is pining for the good old days.
  85. Faux racism gives blacks an excuse to kill whites.

  86. @Corvinus
    "But it has now been confirmed by official sources: mass murder by black man justified by racism."

    Not exactly. Apparently, the shooter was involved long-running dispute with one co-worker that boiled over. It is other than surprising that those in the immediate vicinity would also be shot. They just happened to be white. Rage has a way of not being discriminating.

    Regarding the shooter, "He was a very good electrician, a very good worker and I couldn’t say anything bad about the guy," said Phillip Rauch Sr., who retired in April after working with Ferrill for 15 years. "Every time I worked with him he was always in a good mood."

    I believe Rauch is white.

    I couldn’t say anything bad about the guy.

    . . . except that he’s a mass murderer.

    Every time I worked with him he was always in a good mood.

    Well, maybe not always.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    ". . . except that he’s a mass murderer."

    After the tragic event. But the man's description of the perpetrator as being positive still stands.

    "Well, maybe not always."

    But apparently most of the time, according to the man who knew him. Of course, the perpetrator zigged his wig, and in his rage targeted anyone associated with the man who he believed had wronged him. Remember, there was an alleged on going feud between the perpetrator and one of the victims, not the entire lot.
  87. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you?"

    The details, which were unconfirmed, came from social media. The link Mr. Sailer provided was a source who highlighted those details. Try paying closer attention.

    "because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "By the way, the British media, or as you might call them “the British social media”, indeed Noticed who the murderer is."

    Actually, it appears that the British media reported it AFTER the Journal-Sentinel. That is, the Daily Mail ran the story after the identity was first confirmed by Milwaukee media.

    “He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you?”

    The details, which were unconfirmed, came from social media. The link Mr. Sailer provided was a source who highlighted those details. Try paying closer attention.

    I didn’t ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you.

    “because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it’s right in front of you for years or not?

    “By the way, the British media, or as you might call them “the British social media”, indeed Noticed who the murderer is.”

    Actually, it appears that the British media reported it AFTER the Journal-Sentinel. That is, the Daily Mail ran the story after the identity was first confirmed by Milwaukee media.

    You’ll have to provide the relevant timeline in detail to support this. Don’t forget the time zone difference between Milwaukee and the UK. Have fun!

    Incidentally, isn’t this crime a disappointment to you? It doesn’t fit into any Narrative you might subscribe to.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I didn’t ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you."

    Which I provided. It states clearly that the article relied on social media, specifically a Mr. Muhammad who gave uncorroborated statements at the time of publication about background information of Ferrill’s employment situation. Since that publication, more details have come out.

    "Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it’s right in front of you for years or not?"

    A pattern by which the Milwaukee media identified the man initially as a Milwaukee man who was employed at Molson Coors? Oh, wait a minute, you are hung up on how you would have preferred that he would have been identified as another crazy black man who killed multiple white people. That pattern, correct?

    "You’ll have to provide the relevant timeline in detail to support this. Don’t forget the time zone difference between Milwaukee and the UK. Have fun!"

    The Daily Mail story used the published Milwaukee story as the basis for their information, and came second as more details emerged. So the event happened, Milwaukee media reported it first at roughly 3:30 p.m., then followed by other news outlets, including foreign sources, some time afterwards. The Daily Mail story clearly shows that it was "UPDATED: 09:53 EST, 27 February 2020", meaning that it incorporated additional information after Milwaukee/national media reported it. Obviously, the Daily Mail did not have reporters there at the scene.

    "Incidentally, isn’t this crime a disappointment to you...."

    Actually, any mass murder is tragic, whether it be black on black, or Jew on white, or white on black, or Hispanic on white, or...

  88. @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you, Bruce, and same to Hail for his continual work inserting biographic info. under the posts.

    Do you all see why I don't use the standard media infotainment for news? I'd rather just read sites I like and get the news indirectly, without that Ministry-o-Truth middleman.

    I was THIS close to watching the D-debates Monday night just for giggles, but apparently we REALLY don't get any TV anymore. We haven't had cable in 20 years, or any internet-based deal, but I switched the TV from HDMI input to our local digital-over-the-air channels, having put a free antenna up on the roof 7 years. back. "No Signal" Nice! I switched back to HDMI and stuck in Day of the Jackel instead. Those Citroens are some ugly-ass cars, but it still beat the hell out of watching a group of Commie retards spouting off from Charleston.

    Hey, hey, hey, Achmed. Let’s get with cleaning out the residual cerebral detritus deposited by the lamestream moron media.

    They are categorically not debates.

    They are media auditions, wherein our cognitive elite betters get to pick and choose who they will showcase and who they will ignore/humiliate.
    IOW a clown show.

    Which is why little grasshopper has been writing in candidates since at least ’88 and turns off any announcements on Minitrue from official occupants of the Casa Blanca since the reign of Cappy “Read My Lips” Bush.

    Does wonders for the mental health/stress level.
    If these blankety blanks were sitting out your kitchen table and insulted your intelligence the way they do on natl. TV, you throw them out on their ear.

  89. @Unladen Swallow
    Black people commit gun crimes and murders far more often, are also the victims of murder more often by other blacks, so...you're a moron.

    Black people commit gun crimes and murders far more often, are also the victims of murder more often by other blacks

    Quit being so parochial. Tendency evidence in the post indicates that TD was aggregating over some set of geographies that may not have included the US.

    • Replies: @Aldon
    There isn't a country in Europe that has higher homicides per capita than Brazil or South Africa. Especially not Russia (which has a significant population of Central Asians).
  90. @Mr McKenna
    Remember, more Africans have migrated to the USA in any recent ten-year period of their own free will than were transported here over the entire 200+ years of the slave trade. That’s how bad it is here for Africans–we simply can’t keep them from flocking here. And this is just counting legal migrants. Whatever racism actually is, it’s proving impossible to prevent Africans from being attracted to it. They simply can’t get enough.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/21/nyregion/more-africans-enter-us-than-in-days-of-slavery.html

    African migration has ramped up considerably since that article was published.

    What this means, anyway, is that even if this country had never imported a single African slave, we'd still be dealing with millions of Africans, in their glorious, manifold manifestations. Because Reasons, as Steve likes to say.

    Yo dude, they come here to fight racism, white that is (the only kind), because there ain’t any where they come from.

    Gotta go where the action is, as they say.
    You not complain’ are you?
    We might have to send some of the boys around to ‘just your attitude.

    cheers, pal

  91. East Ramapo trial offers fraught question: Should Hasidic Jews be considered ‘white’?

    https://forward.com/news/national/440018/east-ramapo-trial-hasidic-latino-black-private-school/

  92. @Known Fact
    Interesting that the black shooter is wearing a Red Sox cap in that photo -- aren't they supposed to be the all-time most racist MLB franchise?

    I’ve seen three pics of the shooter, Anthony N. Ferrill (1969–2020), each wearing a cap; in each pic, there is a different sports-franchise logo on the cap.

    So of all the things said about this case, let that one not escape attention. This man was a very-regular baseball cap wearer in his 40s and early 50s. FWIW.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I think this old Miller brewery made a charming backdrop for the old County baseball stadium in Milwaukee. I saw the Detroit Tigers beat the Milwaukee Brewers there in 1983, with the big Miller sign on the brewery out beyond the outfield.
  93. @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t hire blacks. Problem solved.
     
    You're 400 years too late with this advice.



    https://s.france24.com/media/display/e577da94-c1bd-11e9-9648-005056a964fe/w:1240/p:16x9/arrivee_esclave_1619_0.jpeg

    400 years too late

    An (ironic) reference to 1619.

    I am sure I’m not the only one annoyed by the elite media’s fixation on “1619” as some kind religious-significance-like, racial founding year, the Black race’s glorious entry into British North America.

    The whole 1619 mythos, recently imposed from above, which many on the right-third of the awareness-of-things bell curve will know predates Plymouth Rock, again subtly ascribes a kind of moral superiority to Blacks in America.

    But 1619 is wrong, in spirit anyway. Black presence and slavery were negligible through the 1680s, and only emergent in 1680s–1740s period. There were some Black individuals before that , but never above the low single-digits in percentage anywhere.

    Chattel slavery via imported Africans only really begins to emerge in the 1680s and 1690s, and fully ‘institutionalize’ later still. The process was largely completed by 1750, by which time Blacks had been increased to 40% of the lowland South population, and there stabilized; this up from the trivial numbers they had before importations began in earnest in the ca. 1690.

    So the origin of Black America is really more like 18th century Q2, arguably even Q3. (I think absolute-numbers of imports peaked in 18th century Q3.) In the meantime, white settlement in North America had firmly carved out a place for Western civilization on the continent, a quintessential example of the Heroic Age archetype historians speak of.

  94. @Hail
    I've seen three pics of the shooter, Anthony N. Ferrill (1969–2020), each wearing a cap; in each pic, there is a different sports-franchise logo on the cap.

    So of all the things said about this case, let that one not escape attention. This man was a very-regular baseball cap wearer in his 40s and early 50s. FWIW.

    I think this old Miller brewery made a charming backdrop for the old County baseball stadium in Milwaukee. I saw the Detroit Tigers beat the Milwaukee Brewers there in 1983, with the big Miller sign on the brewery out beyond the outfield.

  95. @Corvinus
    "But it has now been confirmed by official sources: mass murder by black man justified by racism."

    Not exactly. Apparently, the shooter was involved long-running dispute with one co-worker that boiled over. It is other than surprising that those in the immediate vicinity would also be shot. They just happened to be white. Rage has a way of not being discriminating.

    Regarding the shooter, "He was a very good electrician, a very good worker and I couldn’t say anything bad about the guy," said Phillip Rauch Sr., who retired in April after working with Ferrill for 15 years. "Every time I worked with him he was always in a good mood."

    I believe Rauch is white.

    Riiiight… because a white guy being interviewed on TV has absolutely no reason to “stretch the truth” and speak glowingly of a black guy. It’s not like white people face any financial and social consequences for speaking ill of the Saintly Black Race, publically.

    Go on TV and call a black criminal a thug. See what you get.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    Riiight, because a white guy being interviewed on TV about a black guy he was friends with would automatically say something nice about the dude because he consciously fears being labeled a social outcast for speaking the "truth" about him.

    I mean, it is not as if white people truly have deep relationships with members of other races and have profound respect and dignity for them. But that would be way too cynical for you to believe, right?
  96. @Tiny Duck
    It says alot about you that you deride a show thats premise is bringing racists to justice

    As for the topic we must remember that most gun crime is done by white males and usually the victims are People of Colour

    • Troll: Unladen Swallow, Genrick Yagoda

    Wasting a reaction by labeling a Tiny Duck post Troll is like putting-up a sign next-to a swimming pool,
    CAUTION: Water is Wet.

    Getting worked-up over someone who is not only so obviously a troll, but also a friendly one; clearly parodying the views he is posting. Life’s too short. Just laugh.

    • Agree: Dr. Krieger
  97. @education realist
    Another shooting that got completely memory-holed was the Cupertino Quarry shooting. The guy was hanging around the neighborhood near Apple and HP, shooting an HP worker to try and steal her car, for an entire day until he was shot himself when the cops finally spotted him. But he was black and it happened with legally owned guns in the most liberal state in the union, so nothing to see.
  98. @Corvinus
    "I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It’s anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles."

    Man, the stench of Fake News is strong around these parts!

    The first sentence is page-one reporting; the second, an Op-Ed.

  99. @Twodees Partain
    Pacino would probably be glad to take any job he can get. He's a drunk who has torn his ticket with so many producers that he's lucky to still be working at all.

    It’s funny because at times he doesn’t seem to be acting so much as doing a really over-the-top comedic parody of an old jewish man.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Exactly right. Pacino seems to have run completely through his reserve of talent and is coasting along on former roles that moviegoers remember. The same is true of Deniro, though I've always viewed Deniro as just a reader of lines. I think that Deniro has gotten his roles by being a reliable communist.
  100. Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent.

    Whites allow it.

  101. @bruce county
    WTF. Why am I in moderation??

    This is a feature, not a bug!

    • LOL: bruce county
  102. @BenKenobi
    If it saves just one life, we should ban _______.

    Blacks.

  103. Didn’t Trayvon Martin show that Negroes and their cucks will always make excuses for fellow Negroes engaging in crime? The narrative was either:

    A. Trayvon dundo muffin.

    B. Georgze Zimmerman forced Tray to attack him.

    The implication is obvious: Negroes are always permitted to use violence against Whitey and his institutions. Obama himself agreed with this.

    • Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    *Whitey and whitey adjacent
  104. @Alden
    The shooter is a black man who was fired. He must have been a terrible employee. It’s extremely difficult to fire a black due to city county state and federal diversity gestapo.

    It turns out that he wasn’t fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn’t. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. – rather common paranoid delusions.

    Probably he SHOULD have been fired (his co-worker accused him of watching movies on his phone instead of working plus he was starting to exhibit the above paranoid delusions ) but he wasn’t. Probably they were afraid that firing such a long term black worker would trigger various age and race discrimination laws so they didn’t dare fire him.

    A lot of the things about Ferrill (high skilled blue collar guy, liked guns, a touch of mental illness) could have just as well described a white guy. Not too long ago, my son bought a house “as is” that belonged to an older black man that had passed away. So the house still had all of his stuff in it – a whole life. He had lived in the house for decades. He was a similar guy to Ferrill – military veteran, blue collar job. The thing that struck me the most is that (aside from family photos) you couldn’t really tell that the guy was black. He basically had the same junk and the same interests (hunting, fishing, etc.) as a white guy in his socio-economic group.

    But the belief that he was a victim of racial discrimination and the willingness to become violent seems to be something that is more common among blacks, with tragic consequences in this case.

    • Replies: @Aldon
    Got quick links on him not getting fired?
    , @Walsh2
    I believe the killer had history of back pain and therefore extended use of painkillers, I wonder whether and to what extent that contributed to completely mental break.
    , @Corvinus
    I wonder if Mr. Sailer will gladly provide an update on this post given this new information.
    , @Alden
    So someone else was fired and Ferrill went beserk and killed 5 people ? Oooookay

    Well, poor baby was an electrician and there’s all those cables in the supply room. One must have been twisted into an oval which triggered ancestral memories of being lynched.

    Maybe blacks shouldn’t be electricians considering all those cables they use that trigger lynching paranoia.
  105. @Jack D
    It turns out that he wasn't fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn't. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. - rather common paranoid delusions.

    Probably he SHOULD have been fired (his co-worker accused him of watching movies on his phone instead of working plus he was starting to exhibit the above paranoid delusions ) but he wasn't. Probably they were afraid that firing such a long term black worker would trigger various age and race discrimination laws so they didn't dare fire him.

    A lot of the things about Ferrill (high skilled blue collar guy, liked guns, a touch of mental illness) could have just as well described a white guy. Not too long ago, my son bought a house "as is" that belonged to an older black man that had passed away. So the house still had all of his stuff in it - a whole life. He had lived in the house for decades. He was a similar guy to Ferrill - military veteran, blue collar job. The thing that struck me the most is that (aside from family photos) you couldn't really tell that the guy was black. He basically had the same junk and the same interests (hunting, fishing, etc.) as a white guy in his socio-economic group.

    But the belief that he was a victim of racial discrimination and the willingness to become violent seems to be something that is more common among blacks, with tragic consequences in this case.

    Got quick links on him not getting fired?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    https://wtmj.com/wisconsins-afternoon-news/2020/02/27/what-anthony-ferrill-did-before-molson-coors-mass-shooting-and-why-original-reports-first-said-fired-employee-committed-it/
  106. Looks like the gun free zone signs weren’t posted in the right place, better put more out.

  107. @Kratoklastes

    Black people commit gun crimes and murders far more often, are also the victims of murder more often by other blacks
     
    Quit being so parochial. Tendency evidence in the post indicates that TD was aggregating over some set of geographies that may not have included the US.

    There isn’t a country in Europe that has higher homicides per capita than Brazil or South Africa. Especially not Russia (which has a significant population of Central Asians).

  108. @Romanian

    It’s sort of a post-modern Western conceit that officialdom should protect personal honor. We’ve invented civil rights laws, H.R. departments, discrimination panels, etc. that seem to self-perpetuate rather than solve problems. The grievance armies seem to be making problems worse. But if you’re a Social Justice Warrior that last thing you want is a peaceful polity.

     

    Read this! This explains the shift from the culture of honor to that of dignity and then to that of victimhood, each with its own conflict resolution mechanisms.

    http://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2015/09/honor-dignity-victimhood-and-death-of.html


    The explanation Campbell and Manning offer is a structural one. Call-out culture, as they see it, is a manifestation of a much broader shift in the way Americans perceive and resolve social conflicts. This shift is a natural and predictable response to the changing distribution of power within American society. They argue that this isn't the first time such a shift has happened. The emerging moral matrix which gives birth to trigger warnings and call-outs is the third system of its type. Campbell and Manning describe it as a "Culture of Victimhood." They name the moral system that preceded it a "Culture of Dignity." Filling out the trinity is the "Culture of Honor." Honor is the oldest conflict-resolution device of the three, and a fitting place to begin our discussion.

    ......

    The transition away from honor culture and its constant feuding took centuries, for it took centuries for new family models to develop and displace older networks of extended clans.The process went furthest with the Dutch, Welsh, English, and Scandinavians, who by the early modern period were living in "absolute nuclear families," which have few connections to extended relatives of any type. People in these societies had to develop a new model of conflict resolution. It was from this milieu the "Culture of Dignity" would arise. We return again to Campbell and Manning:

    B) A Culture of Dignity
    The prevailing culture in the modern West is one whose moral code is nearly the exact opposite of that of an honor culture. Rather than honor, a status based primarily on public opinion, people are said to have dignity, a kind of inherent worth that cannot be alienated by others (Berger 1970; see also Leung and Cohen 2011). Dignity exists independently of what others think, so a culture of dignity is one in which public reputation is less important. Insults might provoke offense, but they no longer have the same importance as a way of establishing or destroying a reputation for bravery. It is even commendable to have “thick skin” that allows one to shrug off slights and even serious insults, and in a dignity-based society parents might teach children some version of “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me” – an idea that would be alien in a culture of honor (Leung and Cohen 2011:509). People are to avoid insulting others, too, whether intentionally or not, and in general an ethic of self-restraint prevails.

    When intolerable conflicts do arise, dignity cultures prescribe direct but non-violent actions, such as negotiated compromise geared toward solving the problem (Aslani et al. 2012). Failing this, or if the offense is sufficiently severe, people are to go to the police or appeal to the courts. Unlike the honorable, the dignified approve of appeals to third parties and condemn those who “take the law into their own hands.” For offenses like theft, assault, or breach of contract, people in a dignity culture will use law without shame. But in keeping with their ethic of restraint and toleration, it is not necessarily their first resort, and they might condemn many uses of the authorities as frivolous. People might even be expected to tolerate serious but accidental personal injuries…. The ideal in dignity cultures is thus to use the courts as quickly, quietly, and rarely as possible. The growth of law, order, and commerce in the modern world facilitated the rise of the culture of dignity, which largely supplanted the culture of honor among the middle and upper classes of the West…. [4]
    This should be more familiar to most Americans, as it was the dominant 'moral culture' for most of our history. Dignity is the preferred conflict resolution device for those who identify as members of a community instead of as a clan. Modern conceptions of citizenship are built upon this moral code. But the conflict resolution mechanisms built into this order and the one now emerging on university campuses differ sharply
     

    Thanks.

  109. @Jack D
    It turns out that he wasn't fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn't. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. - rather common paranoid delusions.

    Probably he SHOULD have been fired (his co-worker accused him of watching movies on his phone instead of working plus he was starting to exhibit the above paranoid delusions ) but he wasn't. Probably they were afraid that firing such a long term black worker would trigger various age and race discrimination laws so they didn't dare fire him.

    A lot of the things about Ferrill (high skilled blue collar guy, liked guns, a touch of mental illness) could have just as well described a white guy. Not too long ago, my son bought a house "as is" that belonged to an older black man that had passed away. So the house still had all of his stuff in it - a whole life. He had lived in the house for decades. He was a similar guy to Ferrill - military veteran, blue collar job. The thing that struck me the most is that (aside from family photos) you couldn't really tell that the guy was black. He basically had the same junk and the same interests (hunting, fishing, etc.) as a white guy in his socio-economic group.

    But the belief that he was a victim of racial discrimination and the willingness to become violent seems to be something that is more common among blacks, with tragic consequences in this case.

    I believe the killer had history of back pain and therefore extended use of painkillers, I wonder whether and to what extent that contributed to completely mental break.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Could be, although again a history of (real or fake) job injury and addiction to pain killers is something that a lot of older white blue collar dudes also have.

    I think the main difference is that blacks are less inhibited regarding their willingness to use violence against others in general so that all other things being equal, a similar white guy would be more likely to just kill himself rather than go on a shooting rampage.

    Also, blacks tend to have higher self esteem and a lower rate of suicide - the black mentality is that if your life is not going well, it's not your fault, it's due to whites being racist toward you. As a victim, you should turn your anger outward toward your oppressors and not inward toward yourself. This societal message is heard a thousand times a day by all blacks but the mentally ill hear it in their own way, and then we are shocked, shocked when they act upon it.
    , @Alden
    Virtually ALL middle aged blue collar, office workers and medical workers have back, hip, shoulder neck and other aches and pains. From furniture movers to surgeons, we all have pains but have to keep working
  110. @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    You are such a cuck-idiot, who only believes “formal statements”. I bet you believe everything you hear from establishment journalists too. The country is full of stupid like you.

  111. @Bugg
    HBO is also promoting the shit out of some alternate history show with Charles Lindbergh as an American Nazi leader. Lindbergh was a patriot who saw FDR was trying to get us into war sooner than later. He visited Germany, but once war was declared fought bravely in the Pacific. He did not hate Jews, and has been hounded in history for one errant line in one speech.

    How many "Nazis are the greatest threat to 2020 America" shows is Hollywood going to produce? The reality; may be you've probably got a John Demjanyuk or 2 hiding out there drooling in a nursing home, and 10-15 toothless losers with 6th grade educations with some KKK and Nazi stuff who could not fill the kindergarten classroom at your typical suburban school. That's it. There is no secret gentile white Bund out there. What "anti-semites" we do have are a legion of Muslims, black converts and Islamic immigrants, plus a mess of lower class blacks who all hate and occasionally beat up Jews. As usual, liberals want to have a conversation only if it makes them feel good, but not if solve problems.

    What “anti-semites” we do have are a legion of Muslims, black converts and Islamic immigrants, plus a mess of lower class blacks who all hate and occasionally beat up Jews.

    I agree that the way Whites as opposed to Blacks and Muslims are viewed with regard to the attitudes toward and threats posed to Jews by the respective groups is inverted. I also find the rank hostility toward Whites that has become so prevalent, accepted, fashionable and brazen to be nothing short of appalling and unconscionable. I feel a deep sense of gratitude for the extraordinary kindness that I and my family, as Jews, have experienced from a mostly White and Christian United States of America.

    I must respond, however, to your statement concerning Blacks and Muslims. I am not sure I have parsed your words correctly but to the extent that you were making blanket, categorical claims, I must challenge them. The personal experiences and observations involving both Blacks as well as Muslims that I can report from my own life include many that are positive. This includes both my childhood as a secular Jew, as well as the now many years, since embracing Orthodoxy as an adolescent, that I have been quite conspicuous as a Jew.

  112. @Corvinus
    "I tried to watch it and it was even worse than I had anticipated. It’s anti-white propaganda written by a jew who really hates white gentiles."

    Man, the stench of Fake News is strong around these parts!

    Man, the stench of Fake News is strong around these parts!

    What is fake about what he said, you simpering nitwit?

  113. @BenKenobi
    So, she intends to make allegedly very dangerous people have nothing left to lose except their lives?

    I hope it turns out the way she expects.

    So, she intends to make allegedly very dangerous people have nothing left to lose except their lives?

    I hope it turns out the way she expects.

    You hope for more murder of random civilians?

    What would that accomplish?

    Or have I misunderstood you?

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    I’m saying the porcine Mizz Kaplan is a contemptible PoS.

    When a Truck of Peace (pbuh) plows through a crowd of little girls the good-think reaction is “not all muslims”, “we need to be more inclusive to prevent this behaviour”, “why are they lashing out”, “racism is to blame” etc etc.

    But when some poor autist gets in a car accident because he fears being Reginald-Denny-ed and then a chain-smoking land whale dies of a heart attack he gets 400 years in prison.
  114. @anon
    “He did? Is the Milwaukee Independent a form of social media to you?”

    The details, which were unconfirmed, came from social media. The link Mr. Sailer provided was a source who highlighted those details. Try paying closer attention.

    I didn't ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you.

    “because the initial media reports just left out the name and race of the murderer it is extremely likely he was black.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it's right in front of you for years or not?

    “By the way, the British media, or as you might call them “the British social media”, indeed Noticed who the murderer is.”

    Actually, it appears that the British media reported it AFTER the Journal-Sentinel. That is, the Daily Mail ran the story after the identity was first confirmed by Milwaukee media.

    You'll have to provide the relevant timeline in detail to support this. Don't forget the time zone difference between Milwaukee and the UK. Have fun!

    Incidentally, isn't this crime a disappointment to you? It doesn't fit into any Narrative you might subscribe to.

    “I didn’t ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you.”

    Which I provided. It states clearly that the article relied on social media, specifically a Mr. Muhammad who gave uncorroborated statements at the time of publication about background information of Ferrill’s employment situation. Since that publication, more details have come out.

    “Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it’s right in front of you for years or not?”

    A pattern by which the Milwaukee media identified the man initially as a Milwaukee man who was employed at Molson Coors? Oh, wait a minute, you are hung up on how you would have preferred that he would have been identified as another crazy black man who killed multiple white people. That pattern, correct?

    “You’ll have to provide the relevant timeline in detail to support this. Don’t forget the time zone difference between Milwaukee and the UK. Have fun!”

    The Daily Mail story used the published Milwaukee story as the basis for their information, and came second as more details emerged. So the event happened, Milwaukee media reported it first at roughly 3:30 p.m., then followed by other news outlets, including foreign sources, some time afterwards. The Daily Mail story clearly shows that it was “UPDATED: 09:53 EST, 27 February 2020”, meaning that it incorporated additional information after Milwaukee/national media reported it. Obviously, the Daily Mail did not have reporters there at the scene.

    “Incidentally, isn’t this crime a disappointment to you….”

    Actually, any mass murder is tragic, whether it be black on black, or Jew on white, or white on black, or Hispanic on white, or…

    • Replies: @anon
    “I didn’t ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you.”

    Which I provided.

    Nope, you essentially did copypasta, forwarding someone else's work as your own.

    “Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it’s right in front of you for years or not?”

    A pattern by which the Milwaukee media identified the man initially as a Milwaukee man who was employed at Molson Coors? Oh, wait a minute, you are hung up on how you would have preferred that he would have been identified as another crazy black man who killed multiple white people. That pattern, correct?

    No, a pattern by which the race of murderers is either shared or obscured, depending on the colour of their skin. That pattern showed up again here: initial reports of "a Milwaukee man" being the obvious clue to any normal person that a black man had committed murder, and the media at multiple levels were going to lie by omission again.

    Then in comments boxes we see little enforcers pop up trying to maintain the Narrative. That's where you show up.

    Looking for you in the latest iSteve comment. Where he confirms that indeed it is another Omar Thornton moment.
  115. @Federalist

    I couldn't say anything bad about the guy.
     
    . . . except that he's a mass murderer.

    Every time I worked with him he was always in a good mood.
     
    Well, maybe not always.

    “. . . except that he’s a mass murderer.”

    After the tragic event. But the man’s description of the perpetrator as being positive still stands.

    “Well, maybe not always.”

    But apparently most of the time, according to the man who knew him. Of course, the perpetrator zigged his wig, and in his rage targeted anyone associated with the man who he believed had wronged him. Remember, there was an alleged on going feud between the perpetrator and one of the victims, not the entire lot.

  116. @Art Deco
    Some obsessive put together a list of incidents in 2019 wherein multiple people were shot. He catalogues 240 incidents over the last six months of the year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019#List


    A grand total of four incidents occurred in workplaces. You ought to consider re-imposing prohibition, because a great many of these seem to occur in bars at closing time.


    You have 19 million employed blacks in this country, but you're not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite. I can tell you'd make a crackerjack actuary.

    …19 million employed blacks in this country, but you’re not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite.

    You would be right if the only thing we had to worry about was mass shootings.

    Also, are you saying that 3 of the 4 workplace mass shootings were committed by blacks? I thought it was 13=50. Not 13=75.

    • Replies: @Aldon
    You're just talking to a cuck/liberal/Non-White.
  117. @J.Ross
    Coulter's Law, right yet again. NPR mentioned this as a "mass shooting" but said nothing about the shooter or motives. Interesting to see if Bloomberg tries to exploit this.

    NPR mentioned this as a “mass shooting” but said nothing about the shooter or motives. Interesting to see if Bloomberg tries to exploit this.

    Remember the foiled bomb plot in Times Square during Michael Bloomberg’s Mayoralty? Before any info about the suspect had been released, His Honor Mr. Mayor predicted that it would be revealed to have been a White Deplorable. Bloomberg turned-out to be dead wrong.

    I do not recall finding a single mention of this in what have now been hundreds of comments across multiple threads on Bloomberg that I have read here. Same for the former Mayor’s connection to Lenora Fulani, the late Fred Newman, and their All Stars youth program.

    [MORE]

    He [Bloomberg] then went on to narrowly win the mayoral election with the 59,000 votes he got on the Independence Party ticket. Once in office, he granted Fulani and her self-described mentor, therapy cult leader Fred Newman, a steady stream of favors, including high-level City Hall meetings, tax-free city bond financing, and his personal support for their youth organization.

    (Bloomy’s Flip-Flop, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, 2005)

    The “youth organization” referenced in the above quote is the All Stars Project.

    Fulani and Newman founded All Stars Project in 1981.[…]
    […]
    In the 1970s, Newman practiced what he called “social therapy,” advising patients to embrace radical political thought as a means of psychological therapy. He also encouraged patients to have sex with their therapists, calling the practice “friendosexuality.” Several former supporters of Newman’s group later labeled it a cult, contending he pressured patients into supporting his political campaigns.
    […]
    Newman met then-graduate student Fulani in the mid-1970s and the two went on to form or merge with several fringe political parties in New York, including the Independence Party, which would in 2001 endorse Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign for mayor. Over the years, the party threw its support behind an unusual collection of candidates, from the Reverend Al Sharpton to Pat Buchanan.

    (New NYCHA Monitor’s Strange Political Bedfellows, Greg B. Smith, New York Magazine, February 2019)

    From the conclusion of a 2006 report by Dennis King:

    The evidence is massive, on a variety of grounds, that the cult/revolutionary party/psychotherapy collective that runs the All Stars Project is dangerous to the psychological health and educational and sexual development of children and teens in its care. Its programs in years past succeeded in recruiting a number of teens directly into the adult group, condemning them to decades of exploitation by Fred Newman.

    Much more from the same author as well as from others can be found linked from
    https://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/index.html

    Additional links below.
    Nader and the Newmanites, Doug Ireland, The Nation, 2004

    When the Newmanites and Fulani took over New York’s Independence Party, they turned it into their most recent cash cow, renting themselves out to billionaire Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign (Bloomberg wanted an additional ballot line as a hedge in case he lost the GOP primary).

    Mike’s Awkward Ally, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, September 2005

    After Bloomberg won the last election with 59,000 votes on the Independence Party line, Fulani and Newman, a former Lyndon LaRouche ally, won Bloomberg’s approval of $8.35 million in tax-free city bonds to help them build a new headquarters for their nonprofit youth group, the All Stars Project. This summer Bloomberg’s Department of Youth and Community Development tentatively approved $240,000 in funding for the group.

    Bloomberg and the Not-So-Independent Independence Party, Gabe Pressman, NBC 4 New York, June 2010

    The Independence Party has a unique history. It was launched by Fred Newman, a former Marxist who became a psychotherapist, and, as the Times declared, “has manipulated politicians, workers and voters into thinking they are participating in a genuine political party.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    NYC politics (like a lot of things in NYC) is a world unto itself - it is unlike the rest of America. You don't just have Republicans and Democrats (and the Republicans aren't even really Republicans). You have all sorts of strange fringe parties on the ballot. And plus you have the old time machine politics tradition (that IS found in other big cities) that you reward supporters with contracts and grants and jobs, etc. Maybe Bloomberg really did this, but if he did it was well within the norms of NYC politics. The crazy extreme ultra-Orthodox anti-Zionist rebbes that NYC politicians also court have ideas that are 10x as crazy as Newman and Fulani but you do what you gotta do to get votes. If you don't win the election you can't implement ANY of your policies. It's easy to criticize from the high perch of an ivory tower or muckraking reporter but real life in the Big City is messy and you can't only deal with choir boys.
    , @J.Ross
    Wow, the thing to be is a cult leader: chicks love those guys.
  118. @Dissident

    So, she intends to make allegedly very dangerous people have nothing left to lose except their lives?

    I hope it turns out the way she expects.
     
    You hope for more murder of random civilians?

    What would that accomplish?

    Or have I misunderstood you?

    I’m saying the porcine Mizz Kaplan is a contemptible PoS.

    When a Truck of Peace (pbuh) plows through a crowd of little girls the good-think reaction is “not all muslims”, “we need to be more inclusive to prevent this behaviour”, “why are they lashing out”, “racism is to blame” etc etc.

    But when some poor autist gets in a car accident because he fears being Reginald-Denny-ed and then a chain-smoking land whale dies of a heart attack he gets 400 years in prison.

  119. @Fun
    The Jim Crow system didn't solve the Negro Problem. Marginalizing people doesn't make them invisible or less resentful.

    Separation, giving Blacks safe spaces so they don’t have to face evil pesky White racists anymore is … marginalizing. Just another proof that separation is the best answer. Blacks complain and accuse Whites in everything possible and call them waycist all the time. No matter how hard you try, bend over backward or discriminate other Whites to please Blacks they will still call you waycist.

    • Replies: @Aldon
    Only liberals refuse to permit segregation. It's traditional to segregate and tell who your citizens can interact with or who they aren't permitted to.
  120. @Walsh2
    I believe the killer had history of back pain and therefore extended use of painkillers, I wonder whether and to what extent that contributed to completely mental break.

    Could be, although again a history of (real or fake) job injury and addiction to pain killers is something that a lot of older white blue collar dudes also have.

    I think the main difference is that blacks are less inhibited regarding their willingness to use violence against others in general so that all other things being equal, a similar white guy would be more likely to just kill himself rather than go on a shooting rampage.

    Also, blacks tend to have higher self esteem and a lower rate of suicide – the black mentality is that if your life is not going well, it’s not your fault, it’s due to whites being racist toward you. As a victim, you should turn your anger outward toward your oppressors and not inward toward yourself. This societal message is heard a thousand times a day by all blacks but the mentally ill hear it in their own way, and then we are shocked, shocked when they act upon it.

    • Replies: @Aldon

    Also, blacks tend to have higher self esteem
     
    Courtesy of "different" intelligence and education/MSM/Hollywood telling them They WUz KANGZ.
  121. @Twodees Partain
    Hamilton was challenged to a duel over an offense against honor, not a perceived slight. Whatever the failings on his part, Aaron Burr did humanity a great service when he faced Hamilton on the field of honor and lit his ass up.

    If he had accomplished nothing else, putting an end to Hamilton and his baleful influence on the young republic by itself places Burr highly among the Immortals of the Founding Generation.

    As regards the very concept of honor, even here amongst the Stevetariate you will find more than a few who cannot conceive of its existence, much less its societal efficacy.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    I can agree with that totally. It ain't just here, either. Most Americans have no concept of honor, and if duels weren't illegal, they would now be fought over petty snark on social media.
  122. @Dissident

    NPR mentioned this as a “mass shooting” but said nothing about the shooter or motives. Interesting to see if Bloomberg tries to exploit this.
     
    Remember the foiled bomb plot in Times Square during Michael Bloomberg's Mayoralty? Before any info about the suspect had been released, His Honor Mr. Mayor predicted that it would be revealed to have been a White Deplorable. Bloomberg turned-out to be dead wrong.

    I do not recall finding a single mention of this in what have now been hundreds of comments across multiple threads on Bloomberg that I have read here. Same for the former Mayor's connection to Lenora Fulani, the late Fred Newman, and their All Stars youth program.


    He [Bloomberg] then went on to narrowly win the mayoral election with the 59,000 votes he got on the Independence Party ticket. Once in office, he granted Fulani and her self-described mentor, therapy cult leader Fred Newman, a steady stream of favors, including high-level City Hall meetings, tax-free city bond financing, and his personal support for their youth organization.
     
    (Bloomy’s Flip-Flop, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, 2005)

    The "youth organization" referenced in the above quote is the All Stars Project.


    Fulani and Newman founded All Stars Project in 1981.[...]
    [...]
    In the 1970s, Newman practiced what he called “social therapy,” advising patients to embrace radical political thought as a means of psychological therapy. He also encouraged patients to have sex with their therapists, calling the practice “friendosexuality.” Several former supporters of Newman’s group later labeled it a cult, contending he pressured patients into supporting his political campaigns.
    [...]
    Newman met then-graduate student Fulani in the mid-1970s and the two went on to form or merge with several fringe political parties in New York, including the Independence Party, which would in 2001 endorse Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign for mayor. Over the years, the party threw its support behind an unusual collection of candidates, from the Reverend Al Sharpton to Pat Buchanan.
     
    (New NYCHA Monitor’s Strange Political Bedfellows, Greg B. Smith, New York Magazine, February 2019)

    From the conclusion of a 2006 report by Dennis King:


    The evidence is massive, on a variety of grounds, that the cult/revolutionary party/psychotherapy collective that runs the All Stars Project is dangerous to the psychological health and educational and sexual development of children and teens in its care. Its programs in years past succeeded in recruiting a number of teens directly into the adult group, condemning them to decades of exploitation by Fred Newman.
     
    Much more from the same author as well as from others can be found linked from
    https://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/index.html

    Additional links below.
    Nader and the Newmanites, Doug Ireland, The Nation, 2004


    When the Newmanites and Fulani took over New York’s Independence Party, they turned it into their most recent cash cow, renting themselves out to billionaire Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign (Bloomberg wanted an additional ballot line as a hedge in case he lost the GOP primary).
     
    Mike’s Awkward Ally, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, September 2005

    After Bloomberg won the last election with 59,000 votes on the Independence Party line, Fulani and Newman, a former Lyndon LaRouche ally, won Bloomberg’s approval of $8.35 million in tax-free city bonds to help them build a new headquarters for their nonprofit youth group, the All Stars Project. This summer Bloomberg’s Department of Youth and Community Development tentatively approved $240,000 in funding for the group.
     
    Bloomberg and the Not-So-Independent Independence Party, Gabe Pressman, NBC 4 New York, June 2010

    The Independence Party has a unique history. It was launched by Fred Newman, a former Marxist who became a psychotherapist, and, as the Times declared, “has manipulated politicians, workers and voters into thinking they are participating in a genuine political party.”
     
    https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3580/3416491209_a50ff4b36f.jpg

    NYC politics (like a lot of things in NYC) is a world unto itself – it is unlike the rest of America. You don’t just have Republicans and Democrats (and the Republicans aren’t even really Republicans). You have all sorts of strange fringe parties on the ballot. And plus you have the old time machine politics tradition (that IS found in other big cities) that you reward supporters with contracts and grants and jobs, etc. Maybe Bloomberg really did this, but if he did it was well within the norms of NYC politics. The crazy extreme ultra-Orthodox anti-Zionist rebbes that NYC politicians also court have ideas that are 10x as crazy as Newman and Fulani but you do what you gotta do to get votes. If you don’t win the election you can’t implement ANY of your policies. It’s easy to criticize from the high perch of an ivory tower or muckraking reporter but real life in the Big City is messy and you can’t only deal with choir boys.

  123. @Jack D
    Could be, although again a history of (real or fake) job injury and addiction to pain killers is something that a lot of older white blue collar dudes also have.

    I think the main difference is that blacks are less inhibited regarding their willingness to use violence against others in general so that all other things being equal, a similar white guy would be more likely to just kill himself rather than go on a shooting rampage.

    Also, blacks tend to have higher self esteem and a lower rate of suicide - the black mentality is that if your life is not going well, it's not your fault, it's due to whites being racist toward you. As a victim, you should turn your anger outward toward your oppressors and not inward toward yourself. This societal message is heard a thousand times a day by all blacks but the mentally ill hear it in their own way, and then we are shocked, shocked when they act upon it.

    Also, blacks tend to have higher self esteem

    Courtesy of “different” intelligence and education/MSM/Hollywood telling them They WUz KANGZ.

  124. @Medvedev
    Separation, giving Blacks safe spaces so they don't have to face evil pesky White racists anymore is ... marginalizing. Just another proof that separation is the best answer. Blacks complain and accuse Whites in everything possible and call them waycist all the time. No matter how hard you try, bend over backward or discriminate other Whites to please Blacks they will still call you waycist.

    Only liberals refuse to permit segregation. It’s traditional to segregate and tell who your citizens can interact with or who they aren’t permitted to.

  125. @Federalist

    ...19 million employed blacks in this country, but you’re not going to hire any of them because three (3) of them lost their temper and shot someone at their worksite.
     
    You would be right if the only thing we had to worry about was mass shootings.

    Also, are you saying that 3 of the 4 workplace mass shootings were committed by blacks? I thought it was 13=50. Not 13=75.

    You’re just talking to a cuck/liberal/Non-White.

  126. @Mr McKenna
    Remember, more Africans have migrated to the USA in any recent ten-year period of their own free will than were transported here over the entire 200+ years of the slave trade. That’s how bad it is here for Africans–we simply can’t keep them from flocking here. And this is just counting legal migrants. Whatever racism actually is, it’s proving impossible to prevent Africans from being attracted to it. They simply can’t get enough.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/21/nyregion/more-africans-enter-us-than-in-days-of-slavery.html

    African migration has ramped up considerably since that article was published.

    What this means, anyway, is that even if this country had never imported a single African slave, we'd still be dealing with millions of Africans, in their glorious, manifold manifestations. Because Reasons, as Steve likes to say.

    Thanks for sharing the link to the NYTimes article as it is very informative. It is quite fascinating that Africans see nothing but opportunity in this great country and are grateful to be here, while African Americans are remorselessly resentful and seemingly prefer to live in past, what with all of the fetishistic talk of lynching (Emmett Till, is that you?), Jim Crow and slavery. In some perverse sense, it seems like that community is pining for the good old days.

  127. @Dr. Krieger
    Riiiight... because a white guy being interviewed on TV has absolutely no reason to "stretch the truth" and speak glowingly of a black guy. It's not like white people face any financial and social consequences for speaking ill of the Saintly Black Race, publically.

    Go on TV and call a black criminal a thug. See what you get.

    Riiight, because a white guy being interviewed on TV about a black guy he was friends with would automatically say something nice about the dude because he consciously fears being labeled a social outcast for speaking the “truth” about him.

    I mean, it is not as if white people truly have deep relationships with members of other races and have profound respect and dignity for them. But that would be way too cynical for you to believe, right?

    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
    There was a farmer who had his dog and BINGO was his name-o.

    And this is the end of interactions with you... cretinous lout.
    You're like Tiny Duck, minus the obvious humor and charm. A sort of Tiny Worm.

    , @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    You're being facetious, but all of that is generally true.

    Also lol at "having dignity" for other races.

    As always you're just a bloviating dummy trying to sound smart.
  128. @Jack D
    It turns out that he wasn't fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn't. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. - rather common paranoid delusions.

    Probably he SHOULD have been fired (his co-worker accused him of watching movies on his phone instead of working plus he was starting to exhibit the above paranoid delusions ) but he wasn't. Probably they were afraid that firing such a long term black worker would trigger various age and race discrimination laws so they didn't dare fire him.

    A lot of the things about Ferrill (high skilled blue collar guy, liked guns, a touch of mental illness) could have just as well described a white guy. Not too long ago, my son bought a house "as is" that belonged to an older black man that had passed away. So the house still had all of his stuff in it - a whole life. He had lived in the house for decades. He was a similar guy to Ferrill - military veteran, blue collar job. The thing that struck me the most is that (aside from family photos) you couldn't really tell that the guy was black. He basically had the same junk and the same interests (hunting, fishing, etc.) as a white guy in his socio-economic group.

    But the belief that he was a victim of racial discrimination and the willingness to become violent seems to be something that is more common among blacks, with tragic consequences in this case.

    I wonder if Mr. Sailer will gladly provide an update on this post given this new information.

    • Replies: @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    The fact that the Black mass-murderer wasn't actually fired is irrelevant, since the story was about the media prosecuting the victims for an imaginary crime said murderer accused them of, brainlet.

    But you actually managed to misread both the article and the comment you replied to, well done
  129. @Aldon
    Didn't Trayvon Martin show that Negroes and their cucks will always make excuses for fellow Negroes engaging in crime? The narrative was either:

    A. Trayvon dundo muffin.

    B. Georgze Zimmerman forced Tray to attack him.

    The implication is obvious: Negroes are always permitted to use violence against Whitey and his institutions. Obama himself agreed with this.

    *Whitey and whitey adjacent

  130. @Walsh2
    I believe the killer had history of back pain and therefore extended use of painkillers, I wonder whether and to what extent that contributed to completely mental break.

    Virtually ALL middle aged blue collar, office workers and medical workers have back, hip, shoulder neck and other aches and pains. From furniture movers to surgeons, we all have pains but have to keep working

  131. @Jack D
    It turns out that he wasn't fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn't. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. - rather common paranoid delusions.

    Probably he SHOULD have been fired (his co-worker accused him of watching movies on his phone instead of working plus he was starting to exhibit the above paranoid delusions ) but he wasn't. Probably they were afraid that firing such a long term black worker would trigger various age and race discrimination laws so they didn't dare fire him.

    A lot of the things about Ferrill (high skilled blue collar guy, liked guns, a touch of mental illness) could have just as well described a white guy. Not too long ago, my son bought a house "as is" that belonged to an older black man that had passed away. So the house still had all of his stuff in it - a whole life. He had lived in the house for decades. He was a similar guy to Ferrill - military veteran, blue collar job. The thing that struck me the most is that (aside from family photos) you couldn't really tell that the guy was black. He basically had the same junk and the same interests (hunting, fishing, etc.) as a white guy in his socio-economic group.

    But the belief that he was a victim of racial discrimination and the willingness to become violent seems to be something that is more common among blacks, with tragic consequences in this case.

    So someone else was fired and Ferrill went beserk and killed 5 people ? Oooookay

    Well, poor baby was an electrician and there’s all those cables in the supply room. One must have been twisted into an oval which triggered ancestral memories of being lynched.

    Maybe blacks shouldn’t be electricians considering all those cables they use that trigger lynching paranoia.

  132. @Corvinus
    I wonder if Mr. Sailer will gladly provide an update on this post given this new information.

    The fact that the Black mass-murderer wasn’t actually fired is irrelevant, since the story was about the media prosecuting the victims for an imaginary crime said murderer accused them of, brainlet.

    But you actually managed to misread both the article and the comment you replied to, well done

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The fact that the Black mass-murderer wasn’t actually fired is irrelevant..."

    Read carefully--It turns out that he wasn’t fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn’t. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. – rather common paranoid delusions.

    Again, perhaps Mr. Sailer will give an update in light of this new information.
  133. @Corvinus
    Riiight, because a white guy being interviewed on TV about a black guy he was friends with would automatically say something nice about the dude because he consciously fears being labeled a social outcast for speaking the "truth" about him.

    I mean, it is not as if white people truly have deep relationships with members of other races and have profound respect and dignity for them. But that would be way too cynical for you to believe, right?

    There was a farmer who had his dog and BINGO was his name-o.

    And this is the end of interactions with you… cretinous lout.
    You’re like Tiny Duck, minus the obvious humor and charm. A sort of Tiny Worm.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "And this is the end of interactions with you… cretinous lout."

    My rebuttal hit you square in the jaw, and now you are taking your ball and going home.
  134. @Corvinus
    Riiight, because a white guy being interviewed on TV about a black guy he was friends with would automatically say something nice about the dude because he consciously fears being labeled a social outcast for speaking the "truth" about him.

    I mean, it is not as if white people truly have deep relationships with members of other races and have profound respect and dignity for them. But that would be way too cynical for you to believe, right?

    You’re being facetious, but all of that is generally true.

    Also lol at “having dignity” for other races.

    As always you’re just a bloviating dummy trying to sound smart.

  135. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    The fact that the Black mass-murderer wasn't actually fired is irrelevant, since the story was about the media prosecuting the victims for an imaginary crime said murderer accused them of, brainlet.

    But you actually managed to misread both the article and the comment you replied to, well done

    “The fact that the Black mass-murderer wasn’t actually fired is irrelevant…”

    Read carefully–It turns out that he wasn’t fired. They fired someone else that day and in the confusion they thought that he was the shooter but he wasn’t. Ferrill was actually a rather well liked (by most) long term (17 year) employee although he and one of his co-workers (one of the people he killed) did not get along. But during the last year or so he appears to have descended into mental illness and came to believe that he was being spied on, followed, bugged, etc. – rather common paranoid delusions.

    Again, perhaps Mr. Sailer will give an update in light of this new information.

  136. @Dr. Krieger
    There was a farmer who had his dog and BINGO was his name-o.

    And this is the end of interactions with you... cretinous lout.
    You're like Tiny Duck, minus the obvious humor and charm. A sort of Tiny Worm.

    “And this is the end of interactions with you… cretinous lout.”

    My rebuttal hit you square in the jaw, and now you are taking your ball and going home.

  137. @Alden
    The shooter is a black man who was fired. He must have been a terrible employee. It’s extremely difficult to fire a black due to city county state and federal diversity gestapo.

    It’s extremely difficult to fire a black due to city county state and federal diversity gestapo.

    It’s not difficult at all. You’re just at a higher risk of a lawsuit.

  138. @Mr McKenna
    Sometimes they wait awhile before torturing and murdering their employers.

    https://wtop.com/dc/2018/09/tortured-and-killed-in-kalorama-revisiting-2015-mansion-murder-case-as-trial-nears/

    Your sanctimony noted as usual. No relation here to the judge.

    The term ‘sanctimony’ does not mean what you think it means. The term is ‘sarcasm’, and that’s just what ‘Tim’ deserves. You don’t want sarcasm, don’t say blatantly stupid (and malicious) things. Works for most of us.

  139. @J.Ross
    If that was the only problem then maybe that argument would make sense, except for the use of the word actuary, because just guessing here but they probably usually look at more than one factor.
    -------
    Turkey is dumping all its "Syrian" "refugees," plus any more who'd like to join them, on Europe all at once. Retaliation for a Russian bombing in Syria which killed Turkish soldiers. Yesterday or the day before there was already rioting on Lesbos, with a group of police trapped in a building, because of having to accommodate all these "refugees" after suffering a massive economic collapse.

    What does this have to do with Syrian refugees?

    If that was the only problem then maybe that argument would make sense,

    Uh, that was the problem under discussion. That aside, people hired blacks under a free labor system for 70-odd years before any state or federal agency was given the task of doing them favors. The reason you hire someone is because the transaction (cash for labor) improves your welfare. Which doesn’t seem to occur to combox clowns who make a hobby of flashing their middle finger.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    So the reason you hire someone is so they can destroy your property, never show up on time, constantly start fights, and then accuse you of racism when you finally realize you have to fire them, got it, great plan.
  140. @Corvinus
    "Eventually, the cops issue a massive report exonerating the murder victims of racism: Welcome to the 2010s when murdered white men are considered guilty until proven innocent."

    Sort of you, Mr. Sailer, leading your audience to automatically assume that this Milwaukee incident is "Thornton Redux". Neither those reports of the gunman's issue with Whitey nor the identity of the gunman has been confirmed by law enforcement or city/Molson Coors officials. However, those "details" were prevalent across social media. I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.

    But then that would appear to be one of your many tricks up your sleeve. Offer a story, and if it sticks, then provide a future snarky "I told you so", OR, if it does not materialize as you thought, then memory hole it, at worst, or put a spin on it to continue your desired narrative, at best.

    “I thought it was frowned upon by Alt Right media types to rely on unconfirmed statements without providing specific, corroborating evidence by way of several formal statements.”

    No, you confused “Alt Right media types” with Wikipediots, and then only when the official story matches their Bizarro World alternative universe.

  141. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @fnn

    Where are we going? Well, take the new torture/murder fantasy by Amazon Prime. It’s about brutal sadism directed at American “nazis”. Hint: The “nazis” are pretty much any White Gentile. If you take it literally, you think it’s just ex-nazis. LOL But the producers make it clear who they mean and you feel it in the sadism. They aren’t playing around. (adult language in trailer).
     
    Jewish SJW attorney celebrates the fact that ant-Regime public protest is now impossible and the result is a rise in mass shootings:
    https://momentmag.com/roberta-kaplan-takes-white-supremacy-to-court/

    We absolutely can and will bankrupt these groups. And then we will chase these people around for the rest of their lives. So if they try to buy a new home, we will put a lien on the home. If they get a new job, we will garnish their wages. The reason to do that is because we want to create a deterrence impact. So we send a message to other people that if you try to do something like this, the same thing will happen to you. And it already has been a deterrence. We’re seeing lone shooters now; we’re not seeing the kind of massively organized conspiracy we saw in Charlottesville. And I think that’s in large part due to our case.
     

    Mass shootings of random people they like. But I remember Alan Berg. They got quiet for a while after that.

    When the IRA provoked the Brits into an own goal, which was often, they got loud and squeaky. On the rare occasion the Brits cleanly took out an important IRA operative they got quiet.

    When the doctor who helped torture Enrique Camorra Salazar was nabbed in a technically illegal operation the DEA and US Attorneys got all boasty. When the LA steezer jury nullified the law and then threw him a fiesta, they got quiet.

  142. @Malcolm X-Lax
    It's funny because at times he doesn't seem to be acting so much as doing a really over-the-top comedic parody of an old jewish man.

    Exactly right. Pacino seems to have run completely through his reserve of talent and is coasting along on former roles that moviegoers remember. The same is true of Deniro, though I’ve always viewed Deniro as just a reader of lines. I think that Deniro has gotten his roles by being a reliable communist.

  143. @captflee
    If he had accomplished nothing else, putting an end to Hamilton and his baleful influence on the young republic by itself places Burr highly among the Immortals of the Founding Generation.

    As regards the very concept of honor, even here amongst the Stevetariate you will find more than a few who cannot conceive of its existence, much less its societal efficacy.

    I can agree with that totally. It ain’t just here, either. Most Americans have no concept of honor, and if duels weren’t illegal, they would now be fought over petty snark on social media.

  144. @Dissident

    NPR mentioned this as a “mass shooting” but said nothing about the shooter or motives. Interesting to see if Bloomberg tries to exploit this.
     
    Remember the foiled bomb plot in Times Square during Michael Bloomberg's Mayoralty? Before any info about the suspect had been released, His Honor Mr. Mayor predicted that it would be revealed to have been a White Deplorable. Bloomberg turned-out to be dead wrong.

    I do not recall finding a single mention of this in what have now been hundreds of comments across multiple threads on Bloomberg that I have read here. Same for the former Mayor's connection to Lenora Fulani, the late Fred Newman, and their All Stars youth program.


    He [Bloomberg] then went on to narrowly win the mayoral election with the 59,000 votes he got on the Independence Party ticket. Once in office, he granted Fulani and her self-described mentor, therapy cult leader Fred Newman, a steady stream of favors, including high-level City Hall meetings, tax-free city bond financing, and his personal support for their youth organization.
     
    (Bloomy’s Flip-Flop, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, 2005)

    The "youth organization" referenced in the above quote is the All Stars Project.


    Fulani and Newman founded All Stars Project in 1981.[...]
    [...]
    In the 1970s, Newman practiced what he called “social therapy,” advising patients to embrace radical political thought as a means of psychological therapy. He also encouraged patients to have sex with their therapists, calling the practice “friendosexuality.” Several former supporters of Newman’s group later labeled it a cult, contending he pressured patients into supporting his political campaigns.
    [...]
    Newman met then-graduate student Fulani in the mid-1970s and the two went on to form or merge with several fringe political parties in New York, including the Independence Party, which would in 2001 endorse Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign for mayor. Over the years, the party threw its support behind an unusual collection of candidates, from the Reverend Al Sharpton to Pat Buchanan.
     
    (New NYCHA Monitor’s Strange Political Bedfellows, Greg B. Smith, New York Magazine, February 2019)

    From the conclusion of a 2006 report by Dennis King:


    The evidence is massive, on a variety of grounds, that the cult/revolutionary party/psychotherapy collective that runs the All Stars Project is dangerous to the psychological health and educational and sexual development of children and teens in its care. Its programs in years past succeeded in recruiting a number of teens directly into the adult group, condemning them to decades of exploitation by Fred Newman.
     
    Much more from the same author as well as from others can be found linked from
    https://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/index.html

    Additional links below.
    Nader and the Newmanites, Doug Ireland, The Nation, 2004


    When the Newmanites and Fulani took over New York’s Independence Party, they turned it into their most recent cash cow, renting themselves out to billionaire Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg in his first campaign (Bloomberg wanted an additional ballot line as a hedge in case he lost the GOP primary).
     
    Mike’s Awkward Ally, Tom Robbins, The Village Voice, September 2005

    After Bloomberg won the last election with 59,000 votes on the Independence Party line, Fulani and Newman, a former Lyndon LaRouche ally, won Bloomberg’s approval of $8.35 million in tax-free city bonds to help them build a new headquarters for their nonprofit youth group, the All Stars Project. This summer Bloomberg’s Department of Youth and Community Development tentatively approved $240,000 in funding for the group.
     
    Bloomberg and the Not-So-Independent Independence Party, Gabe Pressman, NBC 4 New York, June 2010

    The Independence Party has a unique history. It was launched by Fred Newman, a former Marxist who became a psychotherapist, and, as the Times declared, “has manipulated politicians, workers and voters into thinking they are participating in a genuine political party.”
     
    https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3580/3416491209_a50ff4b36f.jpg

    Wow, the thing to be is a cult leader: chicks love those guys.

  145. @Art Deco
    What does this have to do with Syrian refugees?



    If that was the only problem then maybe that argument would make sense,

    Uh, that was the problem under discussion. That aside, people hired blacks under a free labor system for 70-odd years before any state or federal agency was given the task of doing them favors. The reason you hire someone is because the transaction (cash for labor) improves your welfare. Which doesn't seem to occur to combox clowns who make a hobby of flashing their middle finger.

    So the reason you hire someone is so they can destroy your property, never show up on time, constantly start fights, and then accuse you of racism when you finally realize you have to fire them, got it, great plan.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    So the reason you hire someone is so they can destroy your property, never show up on time, constantly start fights, and then accuse you of racism when you finally realize you have to fire them, got it, great plan.

    No, the reason you hire someone is that they provide services for the wages you pay them. Ordinary people are capable of dealing with individuals and capable of going about their business without making grotesque caricatures of others. You are not, which is why you shouldn't be allowed discretion over anything.
  146. @The Wild Geese Howard
    If she's such a superhero, perhaps this negress should just move back to Wakanda so she can hang out with other negro superheros.

    The replies to that tweet are 50/50 based/woke. I'm surprised that Cap'n Jack Twitter hasn't already deleted the based replies.

  147. @J.Ross
    So the reason you hire someone is so they can destroy your property, never show up on time, constantly start fights, and then accuse you of racism when you finally realize you have to fire them, got it, great plan.

    So the reason you hire someone is so they can destroy your property, never show up on time, constantly start fights, and then accuse you of racism when you finally realize you have to fire them, got it, great plan.

    No, the reason you hire someone is that they provide services for the wages you pay them. Ordinary people are capable of dealing with individuals and capable of going about their business without making grotesque caricatures of others. You are not, which is why you shouldn’t be allowed discretion over anything.

  148. anon[287] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "I didn’t ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you."

    Which I provided. It states clearly that the article relied on social media, specifically a Mr. Muhammad who gave uncorroborated statements at the time of publication about background information of Ferrill’s employment situation. Since that publication, more details have come out.

    "Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it’s right in front of you for years or not?"

    A pattern by which the Milwaukee media identified the man initially as a Milwaukee man who was employed at Molson Coors? Oh, wait a minute, you are hung up on how you would have preferred that he would have been identified as another crazy black man who killed multiple white people. That pattern, correct?

    "You’ll have to provide the relevant timeline in detail to support this. Don’t forget the time zone difference between Milwaukee and the UK. Have fun!"

    The Daily Mail story used the published Milwaukee story as the basis for their information, and came second as more details emerged. So the event happened, Milwaukee media reported it first at roughly 3:30 p.m., then followed by other news outlets, including foreign sources, some time afterwards. The Daily Mail story clearly shows that it was "UPDATED: 09:53 EST, 27 February 2020", meaning that it incorporated additional information after Milwaukee/national media reported it. Obviously, the Daily Mail did not have reporters there at the scene.

    "Incidentally, isn’t this crime a disappointment to you...."

    Actually, any mass murder is tragic, whether it be black on black, or Jew on white, or white on black, or Hispanic on white, or...

    “I didn’t ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you.”

    Which I provided.

    Nope, you essentially did copypasta, forwarding someone else’s work as your own.

    “Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it’s right in front of you for years or not?”

    A pattern by which the Milwaukee media identified the man initially as a Milwaukee man who was employed at Molson Coors? Oh, wait a minute, you are hung up on how you would have preferred that he would have been identified as another crazy black man who killed multiple white people. That pattern, correct?

    No, a pattern by which the race of murderers is either shared or obscured, depending on the colour of their skin. That pattern showed up again here: initial reports of “a Milwaukee man” being the obvious clue to any normal person that a black man had committed murder, and the media at multiple levels were going to lie by omission again.

    Then in comments boxes we see little enforcers pop up trying to maintain the Narrative. That’s where you show up.

    Looking for you in the latest iSteve comment. Where he confirms that indeed it is another Omar Thornton moment.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Nope, you essentially did copypasta, forwarding someone else’s work as your own."

    You did ask me for the social media links, which I provided from a source.

    "No, a pattern by which the race of murderers is either shared or obscured, depending on the colour of their skin."

    Except it's not, as it was reported that a black man committed a heinous act.

    "That pattern showed up again here: initial reports of “a Milwaukee man” being the obvious clue to any normal person that a black man had committed murder..."

    Right, an initial report that was accurate. It was a Milwaukee man, and then later confirmed he was black. There was no lying here nor an omission.
  149. @anon
    “I didn’t ask Mr. Sailor for those social media links, I asked you.”

    Which I provided.

    Nope, you essentially did copypasta, forwarding someone else's work as your own.

    “Perhaps. Can you Notice a pattern when it’s right in front of you for years or not?”

    A pattern by which the Milwaukee media identified the man initially as a Milwaukee man who was employed at Molson Coors? Oh, wait a minute, you are hung up on how you would have preferred that he would have been identified as another crazy black man who killed multiple white people. That pattern, correct?

    No, a pattern by which the race of murderers is either shared or obscured, depending on the colour of their skin. That pattern showed up again here: initial reports of "a Milwaukee man" being the obvious clue to any normal person that a black man had committed murder, and the media at multiple levels were going to lie by omission again.

    Then in comments boxes we see little enforcers pop up trying to maintain the Narrative. That's where you show up.

    Looking for you in the latest iSteve comment. Where he confirms that indeed it is another Omar Thornton moment.

    “Nope, you essentially did copypasta, forwarding someone else’s work as your own.”

    You did ask me for the social media links, which I provided from a source.

    “No, a pattern by which the race of murderers is either shared or obscured, depending on the colour of their skin.”

    Except it’s not, as it was reported that a black man committed a heinous act.

    “That pattern showed up again here: initial reports of “a Milwaukee man” being the obvious clue to any normal person that a black man had committed murder…”

    Right, an initial report that was accurate. It was a Milwaukee man, and then later confirmed he was black. There was no lying here nor an omission.

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