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    • MA Classical Studies (Humanities), The Open University.
    • BA (Hons) Classical Civilisation, University of Roehampton.

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    • Smith, Oliver D. “An Alternative Site for Troy on Imbros (Gökçeada)”, Kerberos: KCL’s Classics Undergraduate Research Journal 2, no. 2 (2020): 61–70.
    • “Alternative Location Hypothesis of Troy,” Fate (June 3 2022).

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  1. Sounds like an interesting guy…..

  2. The problem is the wackos are running our country these days ,Oliver is pretty far on the spectrum of insanity but who’s to say where the old Overton window will be in a few years ……..enjoy eating your insects while you can.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @tyrone

    "enjoy eating your insects while you can"

    Check the label!

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/yay-larvae-insects-to-swarm-european-shelves-as-eu-adapts-food-laws/ar-AA16GMEI


    Diets in much of Europe may now be expanding faster, as new laws in the European Union coming into effect as of January 24 mean more types of insect can now be processed into food.

    That means gourmands can dig into food containing house crickets and the larval form of mealworms and migratory locusts.

    In the European Union, all novel foods need to be approved and the latest regulation allows house crickets to be frozen, dried and used as powder in food. That means Vietnamese company Cricket One, for example, may market its partially defatted house cricket (Acheta domesticus) powder. Scientists have already studied the crickets after they were included on a list of novel foods.

    The next change comes on Thursday, when larvae of the lesser mealworm can be allowed in food. Legally, food can already include migratory locusts and larvae of the yellow mealworm.

    What kind of foods contain crickets?

    All kinds. Breads, bread rolls, biscuits, crackers, baking mixes and pasta, sauces and soups, meat and milk substitutes, potato products or chocolate all can contain cricket powder, for example. They would then not be labelled vegan or vegetarian.

    Are we going to see a lot of that kind of thing in the near future?

    That's not clear yet. Right now, food containing insects is "really a very, very small niche market," says food chemist Armin Valet of a German consumer advice centre.

    It varies from one country to the next, and in Germany, for example, you can only get a few products that contain small amounts of insects, such as energy bars or noodles. Mixing insect powder into biscuits or flour is "really still a long way off," says Valet.
     

    (I've often thought RationalWiki should be called DerangedWiki, but I have no idea who Oliver D Smith is or what the connection is). I know DerangedWiki aren't very polite about Steve.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  3. Steve Sailer is cited by National Review in a Jan 27 article by Wilfred Reilly, “BLM’s Bloody Bill Comes Due”

    Even more remarkable than the existence of what is sometimes just called the “crime wave” was how targeted its effects actually were. While I have seen few mainstream pundits bold enough to discuss specific trends here — perhaps because very heterodox writers like Steve Sailer have — the United States has not in fact seen a rise in total crime since the last decade. Per the report “Criminal Victimization, 2021,” based on the victim-reported Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (the BJS-NCVS), which is widely considered the gold standard of American crime data, crime overall did not increase significantly that year.

    As presented in Table 14 of the authoritative report, 2,734,700 Americans were victims of serious (“index”) violent crimes — as compared with 2,599,620 in the Covid-19 lockdown year of 2020, 3,059,060 in 2019, 3,254,250 in 2018, and 3,106,346 back in 2017. Felony property crime also did not increase across this set of years, and neither did white-on-black or black-on-white crime (with this analysis beginning in 2018). Even black crime overall, heavily concentrated in the South, wasn’t really up: Contra internet memes of the “13/50” variety, identified blacks committed 974,378 — or just about 25 percent — of the 3,995,668 total violent crimes that took place in 2021. All of this data, which is totally noncontroversial, can be read in the report.

    What did increase was hyper-violent, specifically black-on-black crime — murders, public shootings — concentrated in large and mostly blue cities that basically gave up on the idea of enforcing the law (“white” cities that did the same, such as Portland, Ore., saw similar results). Between the late 2010s and 2022, black Americans went from being responsible for less than 50 percent of 14,000–17,000 murders annually to being responsible for 60.4 percent of the 22,900 annual murders sourced above. Per easily available FBI data, the black homicide rate increased by roughly 50 percent in just the few years since the death of George Floyd. This is, notably, a purely “culturalist” result that has nothing to do with genetics or racism. It is, also, one of the most significant legacies of BLM.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Beliavsky

    Heather McDonald’s appearance this week on Ann Coulter’s Substack podcast was very impressive. She is chock-full of all kinds of statistics that I’ve heard from Steve, as well as a lot of stuff that was news to me.

    She had a lot to say about how police departments hire unqualified black officers with criminal records because that’s the only way they can up the numbers. She also talks about the lack of training, including the commonsense training that tells new police officers that they need to cut ties with acquaintances who are criminals.

    Replies: @james wilson

    , @J.Ross
    @Beliavsky

    13/50 specifically referred to murder and the guy disapproves of it but then goes on to say it now doesn't go far enough.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @bomag
    @Beliavsky


    Per the report “Criminal Victimization, 2021,” based on the victim-reported Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (the BJS-NCVS), which is widely considered the gold standard of American crime data, crime overall did not increase significantly that year.
     
    I'm thinking that in our hyper-Woke era, this under-reports the data.

    Also consider the efforts taken to avoid.
    , @fnn
    @Beliavsky


    Between the late 2010s and 2022, black Americans went from being responsible for less than 50 percent of 14,000–17,000 murders annually to being responsible for 60.4 percent of the 22,900 annual murders sourced above. Per easily available FBI data, the black homicide rate increased by roughly 50 percent in just the few years since the death of George Floyd. This is, notably, a purely “culturalist” result that has nothing to do with genetics or racism.
     
    Or maybe the post-Floyd withdrawal of cops to the donut shop allowed blacks to more purely express their blackness.
  4. That’s nothing. Look at this fruit loop who is the Director of National Intelligence. Avril Danica Haines is her name. Her and her hubby used to own a bookstore that held erotic readings. She has all the right connections and no accomplishments.

    Just look at that creepy face. She is, of course, a neocon globalist who hates actual Americans.
    Remember that the next time you hear “urgent information” about some national security issue. Not trustworthy.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    The mother of Avril Danica Haines is jewish. Sigh. Every. Single. Time.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    Look at this fruit loop who is the Director of National Intelligence. Avril Danica Haines is her name. Her and her hubby used to own a bookstore that held erotic readings. She has all the right connections and no accomplishments...
     
    I looked at that smirk. Jewish?

    ...yep.
    , @Ian Smith
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship

    If Jeff Bezos joined the late-in-life tranny club…

  5. Well it seems a little kooky.. but psychotic?

  6. Bet k-lo is forced by his pozzed bbc partner to use ocean financ!!!

  7. Oh, Atlantis dot com!

    You had me there for a minute that he wrote for The Atlantic dot com, which would make him a true believer in stupid things.

    Atlantis. No big deal. No content that hasn’t appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience. Let’s just move on.

  8. Named for the entrants or for those writing and updating the articles? The insults and mischaracterizations get pretty over the top.

  9. Some of this isn’t too bad. The question of whether Solon travelled to Egypt is not an insane one, or not amenable to logical discussion.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Graham


    The question of whether Solon travelled to Egypt is not an insane one, or not amenable to logical discussion.
     
    ......Maybe he got a lift from the ancient aliens...back home in time for dinner!

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth

    , @Dube
    @Graham

    Nothing lost by examining Plato's Critias for the plausibility of its tale about Solon in Egypt, and how he is supposed to have learned about Atlantis. Here's a nice intro:
    https://www.philipharland.com/Blog/2022/07/egyptian-wisdom-plato-on-solon-the-egyptian-priest-and-atlantis-mid-fourth-century-bce/

    The hard-particle atomist Democritus is said to have been the most widely traveled of the early philosophers, having gone as far as India, where he met the gymnosophists, who united grace and wisdom in a perfect golf swing. Democritus himself couldn't attain it, because whenever he approached the tee, his atoms rattled.

  10. It lost me at:

    Judaea (66 CE)

    (Do you all think replacing AD with CE is an automatic wiki software thing, perhaps?)

  11. Chances are he’s already blogging (under a pseudonym of course) at unz.com.

    • LOL: ic1000
    • Replies: @tyrone
    @International Jew


    Chances are he’s already blogging (under a pseudonym of course) at unz.com.
     
    .......No one admits NOTHING!....you will never find out...HAHAHAHA!
  12. Was Steve hacked?

  13. Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out. Especially, those who made a career out of it. There would be no wave of misery coming for our children. And the rapes, molestations and murders since forced integration began in the 1960s would’ve been avoided.

    Think of all those victims, mostly white girls. I know it means nothing to this “HBD” crowd that shuns moral courage. Just so tiresome to stand for your own and do you even understand feelings?

    But I can’t help but imagine a Tarantino movie with a different ending, a movie where guys from Patrick Moynihan to Nixon to Charles Murray to whatever dregs are left today, spoke clearly as advocates for their people. They would have won. And hundreds of thousands of rape and murder victims would still be with us. And we’d have neighborhoods where couples could see a future, a community of similar people, and a place to raise children!

    What a wonderful world it would have been. But, the vainglorious toadies to power stabbed us in the back. There aren’t enough years left to grieve this greatest of betrayals.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out.
     
    But they did speak out - George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Strom Thurmond, Eugene Talmadge, Bull Connor. They were dismissed as southern rednecks. Most iSteve commentors would still dismiss them as rednecks. The HBD truth about blacks is pretty much in synch with the old-fashioned barnyard view of blacks, that their misbehavior is in their blood. It's not just liberals or suburban women who don't want to hear this. People on this site don't want to hear this, if it comes from the only people who ever had nerve enough to say it - southern populists. I don't recall a posting on this site in praise of Bull Connor, even though he did exactly the same thing in his day that many here believe should be done to BLM protestors today - turn lose the water cannons and dogs.

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    , @bomag
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out.
     
    Well, at some level everyone knows. What we've got is a grand experiment from those in power to see if ignoring differences and going full "all men are created equal" would be a viable strategy. Pretty dismal results, with society as segregated as ever, and the civil rights movement morphing into a forever gibs movement. But the show must go on, inertia et al, the prospect of overt Jim Crow type arrangements being too distasteful: expensive and sucky.
  14. Steve, what’s your problem here? He has obviously knowlege in classical studies and , as every specialist, conccentrates on particular riddles which are unsolved. Some combinations are far-fetched, but not insane.
    Would it be more rational for him to write about crime statistics and IQ?

    • Agree: Graham
    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Stogumber

    Well, the idea humans should stop breeding because of all the pain and suffering we cause insects is pretty far out there.

    But to tie it in with iSteve themes, Oliver Smith’s article about how our modern conception of Santa Claus is based on an Alaskan school superintendent who died in the 1918 flu epidemic mentions the illustrator who brought us proto-Haven Monahan Ivy League club men imagery, J.C. Leyendecker. Great minds notice these overlapping lattices of coincidence.

    , @puttheforkdown
    @Stogumber

    Check out his beef with Emil Kirkegaard. Oliver's just mad anyone mentions race and IQ.

    , @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Stogumber

    The problem is that rationalwiki is really just left wing conventional wisdom wiki. Read their takes on economics, e.g., or transgenderism. Most articles make appeals to authority, which means any heterodox right leaning opinion is negated because the proponent doesn’t have a degree from some Ivy League blah blah.

    Seriously read rational wiki first and then you might see the bigger picture.

  15. @Graham
    Some of this isn't too bad. The question of whether Solon travelled to Egypt is not an insane one, or not amenable to logical discussion.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Dube

    The question of whether Solon travelled to Egypt is not an insane one, or not amenable to logical discussion.

    ……Maybe he got a lift from the ancient aliens…back home in time for dinner!

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
    @tyrone

    "logical discussion"

    I look at pictures of sexy women. We all find ways to get our cookies.

  16. @International Jew
    Chances are he's already blogging (under a pseudonym of course) at unz.com.

    Replies: @tyrone

    Chances are he’s already blogging (under a pseudonym of course) at unz.com.

    …….No one admits NOTHING!….you will never find out…HAHAHAHA!

  17. Atlantis · Donovan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis_(Donovan_song)

    [MORE]

  18. “Black People Kill Black People All The Time”

    What jobs are black people not good at? Final Answer.

  19. Context? What do this guy, this blog, and Rational Wiki have to do with each other?

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  20. What is the purpose of Steve Sailor’s post?

    Smith is banned from RationalWiki and has since spoken out against the website. He hasn’t edited the website in 2 years. Also if you read his papers, he is debunking Atlantis and cryptozoology. Similar to Darren Naish he publishes on these topics from a skeptical position.

    Seems to be off-topic. What interest is Smith to Steve Sailor or this website?

    • Agree: Inquiring Mind
    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Roger Yate

    O hai Oliver!

    You’re not just a crazy stalker of writers about IQ topics, you are such an antisocial screwup even your fellow autistic antifa weirdos can’t stand you.

    http://coldfusioncommunity.net/anglo-pyramidologist/oliver-d-smith/

    Phenotype says it all:

    https://encyclopediadramatica.online/images/8/83/OliverSmith03.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @Tony, @Anon

    , @Corpse Tooth
    @Roger Yate

    "What is the purpose of Steve Sailor's [sic] post?"

    It's Steve's sly way of inserting the Atlantis mystery without mentioning Mars and the planet the red moon once orbited which is now the asteroid belt between Jupiter and the previously mentioned Mars. It is lunacy not to mention Atlantis, Mars, and the destroyed planet in the same breath. He knows this; he's just being a jerk about it.

    "Similar to Darren Naish he publishes on these topics from a skeptical position."

    Why are materialists driven to snuff out mysteries and ancient stories that have fed imaginations from Plato to me? Must we all live in your airless box?

    "Seems to be off-topic."

    Seems someone should remove the stick from thy nether region.

    "What interest is Smith to Steve Sailor [sic] or this website?"

    Sailer's ostensible point is anybody who looks into the Atlantis theory is a psycho. I say Sailer is trying to misdirect attention away from the antediluvian Martian Holocaust. Is Steve an anti-Martianite? Maybe direct your energies toward answering this question.

  21. Yeti the biped, or Yeti the microphone? The guy probably has a podcast, you know.

    BTW, what ever became of the Sailer Podcast? You could be bigger than Rogan, ya know. Given the allegations of your White Supremacy bent, you might have to take it to Rumble, though.

  22. I’ve often quipped that if we had Truth in Advertising laws, RationalWiki.com would have to be renamed PsychoticWiki.com.

    There’s lots of stuff that has overtly bogus labelling like this:

    — Black Lives Matter
    — Human Rights Campaign
    — American Civil Liberties Union
    — Democratic Party (for that matter Republican Party)
    — “Our Democracy”
    — “Civil Rights”

  23. There’s certainly nothing wrong with niche interests–even golf course architecture.

    What’s really weird and quite troubling is all these “intelligent” people who just have obviously stupid, silly ideas about race, sex, genetics, homosexuality, crime, immigration, nations. Just really dumb, vapid ideas about the core of how people, social relations, nations and civilization work.

    People just a generation or two back knew less “information”, but were actually much, much smarter about the basics of civilization.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  24. OT: Clown World – 59 year old Finnish farmer decides he is a beautiful young ice-princess. Except he can’t even skate. Still, he garners high scores from the judges.

    Watch: Inexperienced Trans Figure Skater Performs At European Championship With Hilarious Results

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/inexperienced-trans-figure-skater-performs-european-championship-hilarious-results

    Don’t EVER stop clapping.

    • LOL: TWS
    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
    @Mr. Anon

    The only thing I can figure regarding the absolute fealty paid toward dudes with boobs is Yahweh intends on replanting his Garden of Eden freak show.

  25. OT: also Clown World – London workman killed by hydraulic pop-up urinal:

    UK Man Dies In Freak ‘Telescopic Urinal’ Accident

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-man-dies-freak-telescopic-urinal-accident

    Problem: People pissing in the street

    Solution: Pop-up urinals!

    Consequence: Man crushed to death

  26. What? Who? Time to take a little break from the internet…

  27. @tyrone
    The problem is the wackos are running our country these days ,Oliver is pretty far on the spectrum of insanity but who's to say where the old Overton window will be in a few years ........enjoy eating your insects while you can.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “enjoy eating your insects while you can”

    Check the label!

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/yay-larvae-insects-to-swarm-european-shelves-as-eu-adapts-food-laws/ar-AA16GMEI

    Diets in much of Europe may now be expanding faster, as new laws in the European Union coming into effect as of January 24 mean more types of insect can now be processed into food.

    That means gourmands can dig into food containing house crickets and the larval form of mealworms and migratory locusts.

    In the European Union, all novel foods need to be approved and the latest regulation allows house crickets to be frozen, dried and used as powder in food. That means Vietnamese company Cricket One, for example, may market its partially defatted house cricket (Acheta domesticus) powder. Scientists have already studied the crickets after they were included on a list of novel foods.

    The next change comes on Thursday, when larvae of the lesser mealworm can be allowed in food. Legally, food can already include migratory locusts and larvae of the yellow mealworm.

    What kind of foods contain crickets?

    All kinds. Breads, bread rolls, biscuits, crackers, baking mixes and pasta, sauces and soups, meat and milk substitutes, potato products or chocolate all can contain cricket powder, for example. They would then not be labelled vegan or vegetarian.

    Are we going to see a lot of that kind of thing in the near future?

    That’s not clear yet. Right now, food containing insects is “really a very, very small niche market,” says food chemist Armin Valet of a German consumer advice centre.

    It varies from one country to the next, and in Germany, for example, you can only get a few products that contain small amounts of insects, such as energy bars or noodles. Mixing insect powder into biscuits or flour is “really still a long way off,” says Valet.

    (I’ve often thought RationalWiki should be called DerangedWiki, but I have no idea who Oliver D Smith is or what the connection is). I know DerangedWiki aren’t very polite about Steve.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The bug-eating propaganda is coming thicker and faster now. Consider the up-beat tone in that article you linked to: Oh Boy! You mean we get to eat bugs!? At last!!

    And to think for all those years the USDA fined food processing plants if they had insect parts in them. Why, they were just being eco-conscious.

    I figure it's all part of the plan. Make people eat bugs so they have one less thing to live for. Make thier lives so abjectly miserable that they gladly step into the corner suicide booth. It's all part of the soft-kill agenda.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

  28. @Roger Yate
    What is the purpose of Steve Sailor's post?

    Smith is banned from RationalWiki and has since spoken out against the website. He hasn't edited the website in 2 years. Also if you read his papers, he is debunking Atlantis and cryptozoology. Similar to Darren Naish he publishes on these topics from a skeptical position.

    Seems to be off-topic. What interest is Smith to Steve Sailor or this website?

    Replies: @Pixo, @Corpse Tooth

    O hai Oliver!

    You’re not just a crazy stalker of writers about IQ topics, you are such an antisocial screwup even your fellow autistic antifa weirdos can’t stand you.

    http://coldfusioncommunity.net/anglo-pyramidologist/oliver-d-smith/

    Phenotype says it all:

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Pixo


    you are such an antisocial screwup even your fellow autistic antifa weirdos can’t stand you.
     
    .......Maybe that's why they wouldn't have him on Ancient Aliens tv show ,the sine qua non of bizarro history ........come on Giorgio ,give a weirdo a break.
    , @Tony
    @Pixo

    Watch out. Take a look at this guy's face. I'm warning y'all. Do not mess with him. Don't say anything negative about him. You dont want to be at the wrong end of an axe or chainsaw.

    , @Anon
    @Pixo

    Lols.

    So if someone doesn't believe in race and intelligence pseudoscience (probably 99% of the world population) they must be an Antifa / Marxist / SJW. *facepalm*

    Replies: @Pixo

  29. OT — by way of Red Ice — The UK’s Channel Four filmed a report in which a cricketing auntie and a tall black woman (who might not be gay, but her haircut is) kvetch about the sheer gall of Ukrainian refugees who didn’t appreciate being settled in Birmingabad. Why would young women away from their men be worried about military age Muslim men famous for rape gangs? Because of racism, that’s why. One of the Ukrainian women mentioned doing her own research into police statistics, which just goes to demonstrate the reach of Russian disinformation campaigns. Is someone you know doing their own research? Don’t hesitate to report them for possible radicalization.
    https://www.channel4.com/news/how-ukrainian-refugees-are-handling-cultural-integration-in-ethnically-diverse-areas-of-the-uk
    If you’re not following Red Ice TV, they have a number of products and formats ranging from long slow week-in-review chat fests to tightly produced five minute spots. However, next week they won’t put anything new out because they’re moving studios (and their merchandise shop is coming back, but not yet). So take a look at Red Ice TV, but give it a minute.
    Bonus: a Ukrainian woman is quoted saying that she expected England to be full of English people.

  30. some readers may need a little context – I guess they forgot/didn’t know Oliver is a well known stalker/harasser of various Unz blogger types (Steve, Karlin), writing irrational articles on RationalWiki about them & various other such activities with a high degree of obsessiveness.

    • Agree: Pixo, J.Ross
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Inselaffen

    Are there any valid sources for this? The stalker/RationalWiki allegations all trace back to Emil Kirkegaard who was in litigation with Oliver Smith. My understanding is Kirkegaard was exposed as the liar in court and Smith won the lawsuit. At least there are documents on scribd showing Kirkegaard owes Smith tens of thousands in legal costs.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/535708866/Emil-Kirkegaard-29-142-67-in-debt-for-losing-lawsuit

    Replies: @Inselaffen, @Pixo

    , @Chris Rock
    @Inselaffen

    You mean Anatoly Karlin who has admitted to finding 14 years old girls "hot".

    https://trad-news.blogspot.com/2021/10/14-year-old-girl-respecter-anatoly.html

    Why would you defend someone that likes 14 year olds?

    Replies: @Pixo, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @J.Ross
    @Inselaffen

    Interesting, this guy sounds like the moron in the Jon Ronson documentary who thought it would be a good idea to throw a pie at David Icke and succeeded in (1) making Icke look like a victim, and (2) damaging the merchandise of the bookstore being used as an Icke venue. At one point in the documentary the guy propounds a koan, that in the name of free speech, Icke must be silenced.

  31. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out. Especially, those who made a career out of it. There would be no wave of misery coming for our children. And the rapes, molestations and murders since forced integration began in the 1960s would've been avoided.

    Think of all those victims, mostly white girls. I know it means nothing to this "HBD" crowd that shuns moral courage. Just so tiresome to stand for your own and do you even understand feelings?

    But I can't help but imagine a Tarantino movie with a different ending, a movie where guys from Patrick Moynihan to Nixon to Charles Murray to whatever dregs are left today, spoke clearly as advocates for their people. They would have won. And hundreds of thousands of rape and murder victims would still be with us. And we'd have neighborhoods where couples could see a future, a community of similar people, and a place to raise children!

    What a wonderful world it would have been. But, the vainglorious toadies to power stabbed us in the back. There aren't enough years left to grieve this greatest of betrayals.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @bomag

    Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out.

    But they did speak out – George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Strom Thurmond, Eugene Talmadge, Bull Connor. They were dismissed as southern rednecks. Most iSteve commentors would still dismiss them as rednecks. The HBD truth about blacks is pretty much in synch with the old-fashioned barnyard view of blacks, that their misbehavior is in their blood. It’s not just liberals or suburban women who don’t want to hear this. People on this site don’t want to hear this, if it comes from the only people who ever had nerve enough to say it – southern populists. I don’t recall a posting on this site in praise of Bull Connor, even though he did exactly the same thing in his day that many here believe should be done to BLM protestors today – turn lose the water cannons and dogs.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    @rebel yell

    It's been pointed out that folks in the North and the South had different ways of dealing with blacks.

    In the North, where blacks were few in number, they were legally equal but Whites didn't want them around.

    In the South, where they were plentiful, they were subordinate to Whites but were around.

    A middle-class White family living in a White suburb in the 1950s America could be forgiven for idealizing blacks. They few they came into contact with were well-behaved members of the middle-class and the household help. They really believed that inside of every black there was a middle-class White screaming to be let out and would if given the chance. Urban dwellers and Southerners, who were in close contact with blacks, knew them well-enough not to idealize them. Many Whites still cling to the hope that there must be some magic trick that will convince blacks to reject 'hood behavior and turn into middle-class Whites with a natural suntan.

    An excellent piece by Norman Podhoretz in the February 1963 edition of Commentary magazine, writing about relations with blacks in his poor integrated Brooklyn neighborhood as a child.

    https://www.commentary.org/articles/norman-podhoretz/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    Replies: @bomag

  32. Context? What do this guy, this blog, and Rational Wiki have to do with each other?

    Steve has a loose brain. (So do many of the commenters here.) “Exuberant synapses,” neuroscientists call it. It’s a great mental skill, and it’s fun. So indulge it, enjoy it, and work with it. But your comment is a good one, because this piece of loose brainsmanship is arguably near the outer boundary.

  33. @Roger Yate
    What is the purpose of Steve Sailor's post?

    Smith is banned from RationalWiki and has since spoken out against the website. He hasn't edited the website in 2 years. Also if you read his papers, he is debunking Atlantis and cryptozoology. Similar to Darren Naish he publishes on these topics from a skeptical position.

    Seems to be off-topic. What interest is Smith to Steve Sailor or this website?

    Replies: @Pixo, @Corpse Tooth

    “What is the purpose of Steve Sailor’s [sic] post?”

    It’s Steve’s sly way of inserting the Atlantis mystery without mentioning Mars and the planet the red moon once orbited which is now the asteroid belt between Jupiter and the previously mentioned Mars. It is lunacy not to mention Atlantis, Mars, and the destroyed planet in the same breath. He knows this; he’s just being a jerk about it.

    “Similar to Darren Naish he publishes on these topics from a skeptical position.”

    Why are materialists driven to snuff out mysteries and ancient stories that have fed imaginations from Plato to me? Must we all live in your airless box?

    “Seems to be off-topic.”

    Seems someone should remove the stick from thy nether region.

    “What interest is Smith to Steve Sailor [sic] or this website?”

    Sailer’s ostensible point is anybody who looks into the Atlantis theory is a psycho. I say Sailer is trying to misdirect attention away from the antediluvian Martian Holocaust. Is Steve an anti-Martianite? Maybe direct your energies toward answering this question.

  34. Watch: Inexperienced Trans Figure Skater Performs At European Championship With Hilarious Results

    I just read that the international body which governs track and field events is no longer banning “trans” athletes.

    So the “women’s” records will now mostly be “won” by actual men. With (perhaps) some minor surgery.

    So these grotesque Woke organizations will be eventually replaced (in saner times, I hope soon) with new non Woke governing bodies. They will be labeled “biological women’s sports” or XY, or XX sports associations.

    Will the Kentucky Derby let some mentally ill character wearing a saddle compete against thoroughbreds? “Identifying” as a race horse?

    Let’s wait and see what Atty General Merritt Garland has to say about it…

  35. Hey Steve,

    I really think you should watch (and ideally review) the new Brandon Cronenberg film, INFINITY POOL, which is in theaters now. It’s a very weird film, about tourism gone horribly wrong on a very peculiar island in the Indian Ocean, it seems. It takes place in the near-future, as revealed by some technology that is available to people in this time. Quite an experience. I’d be curious to hear what you might think about it.

  36. @Mr. Anon
    OT: Clown World - 59 year old Finnish farmer decides he is a beautiful young ice-princess. Except he can't even skate. Still, he garners high scores from the judges.

    Watch: Inexperienced Trans Figure Skater Performs At European Championship With Hilarious Results

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/inexperienced-trans-figure-skater-performs-european-championship-hilarious-results
     
    Don't EVER stop clapping.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth

    The only thing I can figure regarding the absolute fealty paid toward dudes with boobs is Yahweh intends on replanting his Garden of Eden freak show.

  37. @Stogumber
    Steve, what's your problem here? He has obviously knowlege in classical studies and , as every specialist, conccentrates on particular riddles which are unsolved. Some combinations are far-fetched, but not insane.
    Would it be more rational for him to write about crime statistics and IQ?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @puttheforkdown, @John Milton’s Ghost

    Well, the idea humans should stop breeding because of all the pain and suffering we cause insects is pretty far out there.

    But to tie it in with iSteve themes, Oliver Smith’s article about how our modern conception of Santa Claus is based on an Alaskan school superintendent who died in the 1918 flu epidemic mentions the illustrator who brought us proto-Haven Monahan Ivy League club men imagery, J.C. Leyendecker. Great minds notice these overlapping lattices of coincidence.

  38. @tyrone
    @Graham


    The question of whether Solon travelled to Egypt is not an insane one, or not amenable to logical discussion.
     
    ......Maybe he got a lift from the ancient aliens...back home in time for dinner!

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth

    “logical discussion”

    I look at pictures of sexy women. We all find ways to get our cookies.

  39. Steve, please comment on the latest shooting in Los Angeles.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/28/us/los-angeles-fatal-shooting/index.html

    The house where the shooting occurred in currently for rent, it might have been rented on AirBNB, and the shooters/victims may be black.

  40. @Inselaffen
    some readers may need a little context - I guess they forgot/didn't know Oliver is a well known stalker/harasser of various Unz blogger types (Steve, Karlin), writing irrational articles on RationalWiki about them & various other such activities with a high degree of obsessiveness.

    Replies: @Anon, @Chris Rock, @J.Ross

    Are there any valid sources for this? The stalker/RationalWiki allegations all trace back to Emil Kirkegaard who was in litigation with Oliver Smith. My understanding is Kirkegaard was exposed as the liar in court and Smith won the lawsuit. At least there are documents on scribd showing Kirkegaard owes Smith tens of thousands in legal costs.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/535708866/Emil-Kirkegaard-29-142-67-in-debt-for-losing-lawsuit

    • Replies: @Inselaffen
    @Anon

    Hello there, Oliver.

    , @Pixo
    @Anon

    Hi again Oliver. Which VPN are you using?

    You’re never going to collect your costs judgment, but enjoy that moral victory, and by all means keep dumping more good money after bad.

    Also, lol at your $50 raised gofundme:

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/emil-kirkegaard-enforcement-and-bailiff-costs

    Replies: @anon3748, @Mark Gold

  41. @Pixo
    @Roger Yate

    O hai Oliver!

    You’re not just a crazy stalker of writers about IQ topics, you are such an antisocial screwup even your fellow autistic antifa weirdos can’t stand you.

    http://coldfusioncommunity.net/anglo-pyramidologist/oliver-d-smith/

    Phenotype says it all:

    https://encyclopediadramatica.online/images/8/83/OliverSmith03.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @Tony, @Anon

    you are such an antisocial screwup even your fellow autistic antifa weirdos can’t stand you.

    …….Maybe that’s why they wouldn’t have him on Ancient Aliens tv show ,the sine qua non of bizarro history ……..come on Giorgio ,give a weirdo a break.

  42. Karlin had some recurring trouble with that guy.

  43. @Stogumber
    Steve, what's your problem here? He has obviously knowlege in classical studies and , as every specialist, conccentrates on particular riddles which are unsolved. Some combinations are far-fetched, but not insane.
    Would it be more rational for him to write about crime statistics and IQ?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @puttheforkdown, @John Milton’s Ghost

    Check out his beef with Emil Kirkegaard. Oliver’s just mad anyone mentions race and IQ.

  44. @Anon
    @Inselaffen

    Are there any valid sources for this? The stalker/RationalWiki allegations all trace back to Emil Kirkegaard who was in litigation with Oliver Smith. My understanding is Kirkegaard was exposed as the liar in court and Smith won the lawsuit. At least there are documents on scribd showing Kirkegaard owes Smith tens of thousands in legal costs.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/535708866/Emil-Kirkegaard-29-142-67-in-debt-for-losing-lawsuit

    Replies: @Inselaffen, @Pixo

    Hello there, Oliver.

  45. @Pixo
    @Roger Yate

    O hai Oliver!

    You’re not just a crazy stalker of writers about IQ topics, you are such an antisocial screwup even your fellow autistic antifa weirdos can’t stand you.

    http://coldfusioncommunity.net/anglo-pyramidologist/oliver-d-smith/

    Phenotype says it all:

    https://encyclopediadramatica.online/images/8/83/OliverSmith03.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @Tony, @Anon

    Watch out. Take a look at this guy’s face. I’m warning y’all. Do not mess with him. Don’t say anything negative about him. You dont want to be at the wrong end of an axe or chainsaw.

  46. anonymous[534] • Disclaimer says:

    As internet content gets ever more bizarre …

    There’s a new Chat GPT tool that creates jokes for free, you put in a start line and it gives you a few punchlines

    punchlines.ai is an AI joke generation tool built on top of OpenAI’s GPT-3 language models. It was fine-tuned on ten thousand late night comedy monologue jokes. And boy are its arms tired!

    https://punchlines.ai/

    It’s apparently not Woke-ified yet and so people are creating huge amounts of ‘racist’ etc humour
    a 4chan thread with examples, pretty wicked
    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/414126470

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @anonymous

    I looked at plenty of them, and didn't think that any of them were funny, and a lot of them didn't even make sense. And I'm glad about that. It would be disappointing to see a comedian I found funny only to discover all his jokes were from chatgpt.

    , @Rob
    @anonymous

    My opener: Why wouldn’t the actor leave California?


    PUNCHLINE OPTIONS:

    1. If Chris Messina moved to Alaska, I’d watch the show.

    2. It’s because our governor has promised to give him a free ride.

    3. It’s too hot there.
     
    My punchline: Because he was loyal to a fault.

    The AI could use some work.
  47. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    That's nothing. Look at this fruit loop who is the Director of National Intelligence. Avril Danica Haines is her name. Her and her hubby used to own a bookstore that held erotic readings. She has all the right connections and no accomplishments.

    Just look at that creepy face. She is, of course, a neocon globalist who hates actual Americans.
    Remember that the next time you hear "urgent information" about some national security issue. Not trustworthy.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Avril-Haines.jpg

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel, @Colin Wright, @Ian Smith

    The mother of Avril Danica Haines is jewish. Sigh. Every. Single. Time.

  48. @rebel yell
    @Loyalty Over IQ Worship


    Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out.
     
    But they did speak out - George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Strom Thurmond, Eugene Talmadge, Bull Connor. They were dismissed as southern rednecks. Most iSteve commentors would still dismiss them as rednecks. The HBD truth about blacks is pretty much in synch with the old-fashioned barnyard view of blacks, that their misbehavior is in their blood. It's not just liberals or suburban women who don't want to hear this. People on this site don't want to hear this, if it comes from the only people who ever had nerve enough to say it - southern populists. I don't recall a posting on this site in praise of Bull Connor, even though he did exactly the same thing in his day that many here believe should be done to BLM protestors today - turn lose the water cannons and dogs.

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    It’s been pointed out that folks in the North and the South had different ways of dealing with blacks.

    In the North, where blacks were few in number, they were legally equal but Whites didn’t want them around.

    In the South, where they were plentiful, they were subordinate to Whites but were around.

    A middle-class White family living in a White suburb in the 1950s America could be forgiven for idealizing blacks. They few they came into contact with were well-behaved members of the middle-class and the household help. They really believed that inside of every black there was a middle-class White screaming to be let out and would if given the chance. Urban dwellers and Southerners, who were in close contact with blacks, knew them well-enough not to idealize them. Many Whites still cling to the hope that there must be some magic trick that will convince blacks to reject ‘hood behavior and turn into middle-class Whites with a natural suntan.

    An excellent piece by Norman Podhoretz in the February 1963 edition of Commentary magazine, writing about relations with blacks in his poor integrated Brooklyn neighborhood as a child.

    https://www.commentary.org/articles/norman-podhoretz/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Thanks for the link.

    The first 2/3rds is excellent and highly relevant today.

    His conclusion, miscegenation, is pretty cringy.

    Doubt something like that would be written in the mainstream today.

  49. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    That's nothing. Look at this fruit loop who is the Director of National Intelligence. Avril Danica Haines is her name. Her and her hubby used to own a bookstore that held erotic readings. She has all the right connections and no accomplishments.

    Just look at that creepy face. She is, of course, a neocon globalist who hates actual Americans.
    Remember that the next time you hear "urgent information" about some national security issue. Not trustworthy.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Avril-Haines.jpg

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel, @Colin Wright, @Ian Smith

    Look at this fruit loop who is the Director of National Intelligence. Avril Danica Haines is her name. Her and her hubby used to own a bookstore that held erotic readings. She has all the right connections and no accomplishments…

    I looked at that smirk. Jewish?

    …yep.

  50. @YetAnotherAnon
    @tyrone

    "enjoy eating your insects while you can"

    Check the label!

    https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/yay-larvae-insects-to-swarm-european-shelves-as-eu-adapts-food-laws/ar-AA16GMEI


    Diets in much of Europe may now be expanding faster, as new laws in the European Union coming into effect as of January 24 mean more types of insect can now be processed into food.

    That means gourmands can dig into food containing house crickets and the larval form of mealworms and migratory locusts.

    In the European Union, all novel foods need to be approved and the latest regulation allows house crickets to be frozen, dried and used as powder in food. That means Vietnamese company Cricket One, for example, may market its partially defatted house cricket (Acheta domesticus) powder. Scientists have already studied the crickets after they were included on a list of novel foods.

    The next change comes on Thursday, when larvae of the lesser mealworm can be allowed in food. Legally, food can already include migratory locusts and larvae of the yellow mealworm.

    What kind of foods contain crickets?

    All kinds. Breads, bread rolls, biscuits, crackers, baking mixes and pasta, sauces and soups, meat and milk substitutes, potato products or chocolate all can contain cricket powder, for example. They would then not be labelled vegan or vegetarian.

    Are we going to see a lot of that kind of thing in the near future?

    That's not clear yet. Right now, food containing insects is "really a very, very small niche market," says food chemist Armin Valet of a German consumer advice centre.

    It varies from one country to the next, and in Germany, for example, you can only get a few products that contain small amounts of insects, such as energy bars or noodles. Mixing insect powder into biscuits or flour is "really still a long way off," says Valet.
     

    (I've often thought RationalWiki should be called DerangedWiki, but I have no idea who Oliver D Smith is or what the connection is). I know DerangedWiki aren't very polite about Steve.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The bug-eating propaganda is coming thicker and faster now. Consider the up-beat tone in that article you linked to: Oh Boy! You mean we get to eat bugs!? At last!!

    And to think for all those years the USDA fined food processing plants if they had insect parts in them. Why, they were just being eco-conscious.

    I figure it’s all part of the plan. Make people eat bugs so they have one less thing to live for. Make thier lives so abjectly miserable that they gladly step into the corner suicide booth. It’s all part of the soft-kill agenda.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
    @Mr. Anon

    And a big egg factory went up in flames the other day. Add another food factory to the pyre. It’s almist as if they’re gradually reducing our non-bug options. It’s working so well with fuel, why not?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  51. @Anon
    @Inselaffen

    Are there any valid sources for this? The stalker/RationalWiki allegations all trace back to Emil Kirkegaard who was in litigation with Oliver Smith. My understanding is Kirkegaard was exposed as the liar in court and Smith won the lawsuit. At least there are documents on scribd showing Kirkegaard owes Smith tens of thousands in legal costs.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/535708866/Emil-Kirkegaard-29-142-67-in-debt-for-losing-lawsuit

    Replies: @Inselaffen, @Pixo

    Hi again Oliver. Which VPN are you using?

    You’re never going to collect your costs judgment, but enjoy that moral victory, and by all means keep dumping more good money after bad.

    Also, lol at your $50 raised gofundme:

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/emil-kirkegaard-enforcement-and-bailiff-costs

    • Replies: @anon3748
    @Pixo

    Pixo you are a close friend of Emil Kirkegaard, I take it you also like children.

    "There is another potential reason why it is a good idea to legalize child porn. Some studies show that the availability of porn has reduced rape rates. Since child porn is a subset of porn, one could expect the same thing to happen with it. The causal theory is that when people have access to porn, they jack off to that instead and thus are less horny, and so less likely to rape. This reasoning applies just as well to child porn."

    ----Emil Kirkegaard in his own words

    "Perhaps a compromise is having sex with a sleeping child without them knowing it (so, using sleeping medicine). If they dont notice it is difficult to see how they cud be harmed, even if it is rape. One must distinguish between rape becus the other was disconsenting (wanting to not have sex), and rape becus the other is not consenting, but not disconseting either (so, unaware of the action becus of sleep or coma or something like that). There is also the possibility of bodily harm that will be there after the person wakes up. This is especially the case with small children since their bodily openings are not large enuf for a regular sized male penis. To avoid this one shud not penetrate."

    ----Emil Kirkegaard in his own words

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emil_O._W._Kirkegaard#Child_porn_and_rape_blog_posts

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @Mark Gold
    @Pixo

    Pixo I see you have been editing Steve Sailer's Wiki article, nice work.

    https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Sailer&diff=2523536&oldid=2523490

  52. Anon[583] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beliavsky
    Steve Sailer is cited by National Review in a Jan 27 article by Wilfred Reilly, "BLM’s Bloody Bill Comes Due"

    ...

    Even more remarkable than the existence of what is sometimes just called the “crime wave” was how targeted its effects actually were. While I have seen few mainstream pundits bold enough to discuss specific trends here — perhaps because very heterodox writers like Steve Sailer have — the United States has not in fact seen a rise in total crime since the last decade. Per the report “Criminal Victimization, 2021,” based on the victim-reported Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (the BJS-NCVS), which is widely considered the gold standard of American crime data, crime overall did not increase significantly that year.

    As presented in Table 14 of the authoritative report, 2,734,700 Americans were victims of serious (“index”) violent crimes — as compared with 2,599,620 in the Covid-19 lockdown year of 2020, 3,059,060 in 2019, 3,254,250 in 2018, and 3,106,346 back in 2017. Felony property crime also did not increase across this set of years, and neither did white-on-black or black-on-white crime (with this analysis beginning in 2018). Even black crime overall, heavily concentrated in the South, wasn’t really up: Contra internet memes of the “13/50” variety, identified blacks committed 974,378 — or just about 25 percent — of the 3,995,668 total violent crimes that took place in 2021. All of this data, which is totally noncontroversial, can be read in the report.

    What did increase was hyper-violent, specifically black-on-black crime — murders, public shootings — concentrated in large and mostly blue cities that basically gave up on the idea of enforcing the law (“white” cities that did the same, such as Portland, Ore., saw similar results). Between the late 2010s and 2022, black Americans went from being responsible for less than 50 percent of 14,000–17,000 murders annually to being responsible for 60.4 percent of the 22,900 annual murders sourced above. Per easily available FBI data, the black homicide rate increased by roughly 50 percent in just the few years since the death of George Floyd. This is, notably, a purely “culturalist” result that has nothing to do with genetics or racism. It is, also, one of the most significant legacies of BLM.

    ...

    Replies: @Anon, @J.Ross, @bomag, @fnn

    Heather McDonald’s appearance this week on Ann Coulter’s Substack podcast was very impressive. She is chock-full of all kinds of statistics that I’ve heard from Steve, as well as a lot of stuff that was news to me.

    She had a lot to say about how police departments hire unqualified black officers with criminal records because that’s the only way they can up the numbers. She also talks about the lack of training, including the commonsense training that tells new police officers that they need to cut ties with acquaintances who are criminals.

    • Replies: @james wilson
    @Anon

    Average Afrerican IQ and police work do not mix. Top, say, quarter of blacks will be offered better AA employment so recuiting qualified blacks to the police is espcially difficult. No doubt Heather has written of this somewhere.

  53. @Pixo
    @Anon

    Hi again Oliver. Which VPN are you using?

    You’re never going to collect your costs judgment, but enjoy that moral victory, and by all means keep dumping more good money after bad.

    Also, lol at your $50 raised gofundme:

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/emil-kirkegaard-enforcement-and-bailiff-costs

    Replies: @anon3748, @Mark Gold

    Pixo you are a close friend of Emil Kirkegaard, I take it you also like children.

    “There is another potential reason why it is a good idea to legalize child porn. Some studies show that the availability of porn has reduced rape rates. Since child porn is a subset of porn, one could expect the same thing to happen with it. The causal theory is that when people have access to porn, they jack off to that instead and thus are less horny, and so less likely to rape. This reasoning applies just as well to child porn.”

    —-Emil Kirkegaard in his own words

    “Perhaps a compromise is having sex with a sleeping child without them knowing it (so, using sleeping medicine). If they dont notice it is difficult to see how they cud be harmed, even if it is rape. One must distinguish between rape becus the other was disconsenting (wanting to not have sex), and rape becus the other is not consenting, but not disconseting either (so, unaware of the action becus of sleep or coma or something like that). There is also the possibility of bodily harm that will be there after the person wakes up. This is especially the case with small children since their bodily openings are not large enuf for a regular sized male penis. To avoid this one shud not penetrate.”

    —-Emil Kirkegaard in his own words

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emil_O._W._Kirkegaard#Child_porn_and_rape_blog_posts

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @anon3748

    Re: 1st quote: Just what is wrong with the arguments articulated therein by Kirkegaard? Can you actually counter any of them? Have you even given any thought to doing so?

    Re: 2nd quote: I recall discussion of it on Anatoly Karlin's somewhere between 2016-2018 as best as I can recall. While I did not follow or look into the matter in any depth, I do distinctly recall Mr. Karlin making a compelling argument that Kirkegaard was merely engaging in purely hypothetical logical exercise/exploration, and that the quotes-in-question were lifted out of that context in order to libel him.

    Have you even read the writing of Kirkegaard's in-question in-context, in its entirety? With so much as an honest attempt to accurately understand? Or are you merely wantonly and with malice hurling incendiaries about?

    Replies: @Anon

  54. @Inselaffen
    some readers may need a little context - I guess they forgot/didn't know Oliver is a well known stalker/harasser of various Unz blogger types (Steve, Karlin), writing irrational articles on RationalWiki about them & various other such activities with a high degree of obsessiveness.

    Replies: @Anon, @Chris Rock, @J.Ross

    You mean Anatoly Karlin who has admitted to finding 14 years old girls “hot”.

    https://trad-news.blogspot.com/2021/10/14-year-old-girl-respecter-anatoly.html

    Why would you defend someone that likes 14 year olds?

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Chris Rock

    Oliver, you are a failure as a troll as much as a human being. Every comment of yours reeks like incel BO.

    There’s really nothing so repulsive as someone who engages in multi-year cyberstalking campaigns over online grudges, devoting literally hundreds of hours to writing those deranged rationalwiki articles.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Chris Rock

    When I was 14 I found 14 year old girls pretty attractive (along with 15-30 year old girls).

    I remember looking at the down on the neck of the pretty redhead in front of me in class and being "lost in wonder, love and praise".

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @MrAnon, @anonymous

  55. @Graham
    Some of this isn't too bad. The question of whether Solon travelled to Egypt is not an insane one, or not amenable to logical discussion.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Dube

    Nothing lost by examining Plato’s Critias for the plausibility of its tale about Solon in Egypt, and how he is supposed to have learned about Atlantis. Here’s a nice intro:
    https://www.philipharland.com/Blog/2022/07/egyptian-wisdom-plato-on-solon-the-egyptian-priest-and-atlantis-mid-fourth-century-bce/

    The hard-particle atomist Democritus is said to have been the most widely traveled of the early philosophers, having gone as far as India, where he met the gymnosophists, who united grace and wisdom in a perfect golf swing. Democritus himself couldn’t attain it, because whenever he approached the tee, his atoms rattled.

  56. Ironically, Smith’s interest in alternative archaeological and historical theories mirrors that of many far right types. A non-insignificant amount of the alt-right and far right types are into kooky alternative theories and health and diet regimens.

  57. @Pixo
    @Anon

    Hi again Oliver. Which VPN are you using?

    You’re never going to collect your costs judgment, but enjoy that moral victory, and by all means keep dumping more good money after bad.

    Also, lol at your $50 raised gofundme:

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/emil-kirkegaard-enforcement-and-bailiff-costs

    Replies: @anon3748, @Mark Gold

    Pixo I see you have been editing Steve Sailer’s Wiki article, nice work.

    https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Sailer&diff=2523536&oldid=2523490

  58. Anon[458] • Disclaimer says:

    Is there any evidence Oliver Smith edits RationalWiki? If you search for this on the internet you find people making claims but no actual evidence. Hearsay at best.

  59. @Chris Rock
    @Inselaffen

    You mean Anatoly Karlin who has admitted to finding 14 years old girls "hot".

    https://trad-news.blogspot.com/2021/10/14-year-old-girl-respecter-anatoly.html

    Why would you defend someone that likes 14 year olds?

    Replies: @Pixo, @YetAnotherAnon

    Oliver, you are a failure as a troll as much as a human being. Every comment of yours reeks like incel BO.

    There’s really nothing so repulsive as someone who engages in multi-year cyberstalking campaigns over online grudges, devoting literally hundreds of hours to writing those deranged rationalwiki articles.

  60. @Beliavsky
    Steve Sailer is cited by National Review in a Jan 27 article by Wilfred Reilly, "BLM’s Bloody Bill Comes Due"

    ...

    Even more remarkable than the existence of what is sometimes just called the “crime wave” was how targeted its effects actually were. While I have seen few mainstream pundits bold enough to discuss specific trends here — perhaps because very heterodox writers like Steve Sailer have — the United States has not in fact seen a rise in total crime since the last decade. Per the report “Criminal Victimization, 2021,” based on the victim-reported Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (the BJS-NCVS), which is widely considered the gold standard of American crime data, crime overall did not increase significantly that year.

    As presented in Table 14 of the authoritative report, 2,734,700 Americans were victims of serious (“index”) violent crimes — as compared with 2,599,620 in the Covid-19 lockdown year of 2020, 3,059,060 in 2019, 3,254,250 in 2018, and 3,106,346 back in 2017. Felony property crime also did not increase across this set of years, and neither did white-on-black or black-on-white crime (with this analysis beginning in 2018). Even black crime overall, heavily concentrated in the South, wasn’t really up: Contra internet memes of the “13/50” variety, identified blacks committed 974,378 — or just about 25 percent — of the 3,995,668 total violent crimes that took place in 2021. All of this data, which is totally noncontroversial, can be read in the report.

    What did increase was hyper-violent, specifically black-on-black crime — murders, public shootings — concentrated in large and mostly blue cities that basically gave up on the idea of enforcing the law (“white” cities that did the same, such as Portland, Ore., saw similar results). Between the late 2010s and 2022, black Americans went from being responsible for less than 50 percent of 14,000–17,000 murders annually to being responsible for 60.4 percent of the 22,900 annual murders sourced above. Per easily available FBI data, the black homicide rate increased by roughly 50 percent in just the few years since the death of George Floyd. This is, notably, a purely “culturalist” result that has nothing to do with genetics or racism. It is, also, one of the most significant legacies of BLM.

    ...

    Replies: @Anon, @J.Ross, @bomag, @fnn

    13/50 specifically referred to murder and the guy disapproves of it but then goes on to say it now doesn’t go far enough.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @J.Ross

    Indeed, it is astonishing how even aspiring iconoclasts find it so difficult not to genuflect in the direction of conventional pieties. I'm not like those bad people, I'm nuanced!

  61. @anonymous
    As internet content gets ever more bizarre ...

    There's a new Chat GPT tool that creates jokes for free, you put in a start line and it gives you a few punchlines

    punchlines.ai is an AI joke generation tool built on top of OpenAI’s GPT-3 language models. It was fine-tuned on ten thousand late night comedy monologue jokes. And boy are its arms tired!
     
    https://punchlines.ai/

    It's apparently not Woke-ified yet and so people are creating huge amounts of 'racist' etc humour
    a 4chan thread with examples, pretty wicked
    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/414126470

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @Rob

    I looked at plenty of them, and didn’t think that any of them were funny, and a lot of them didn’t even make sense. And I’m glad about that. It would be disappointing to see a comedian I found funny only to discover all his jokes were from chatgpt.

  62. @Inselaffen
    some readers may need a little context - I guess they forgot/didn't know Oliver is a well known stalker/harasser of various Unz blogger types (Steve, Karlin), writing irrational articles on RationalWiki about them & various other such activities with a high degree of obsessiveness.

    Replies: @Anon, @Chris Rock, @J.Ross

    Interesting, this guy sounds like the moron in the Jon Ronson documentary who thought it would be a good idea to throw a pie at David Icke and succeeded in (1) making Icke look like a victim, and (2) damaging the merchandise of the bookstore being used as an Icke venue. At one point in the documentary the guy propounds a koan, that in the name of free speech, Icke must be silenced.

  63. @anonymous
    As internet content gets ever more bizarre ...

    There's a new Chat GPT tool that creates jokes for free, you put in a start line and it gives you a few punchlines

    punchlines.ai is an AI joke generation tool built on top of OpenAI’s GPT-3 language models. It was fine-tuned on ten thousand late night comedy monologue jokes. And boy are its arms tired!
     
    https://punchlines.ai/

    It's apparently not Woke-ified yet and so people are creating huge amounts of 'racist' etc humour
    a 4chan thread with examples, pretty wicked
    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/414126470

    Replies: @al gore rhythms, @Rob

    My opener: Why wouldn’t the actor leave California?

    PUNCHLINE OPTIONS:

    1. If Chris Messina moved to Alaska, I’d watch the show.

    2. It’s because our governor has promised to give him a free ride.

    3. It’s too hot there.

    My punchline: Because he was loyal to a fault.

    The AI could use some work.

  64. @Chris Rock
    @Inselaffen

    You mean Anatoly Karlin who has admitted to finding 14 years old girls "hot".

    https://trad-news.blogspot.com/2021/10/14-year-old-girl-respecter-anatoly.html

    Why would you defend someone that likes 14 year olds?

    Replies: @Pixo, @YetAnotherAnon

    When I was 14 I found 14 year old girls pretty attractive (along with 15-30 year old girls).

    I remember looking at the down on the neck of the pretty redhead in front of me in class and being “lost in wonder, love and praise”.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @YetAnotherAnon

    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-like-women-to-be-attracted-to-me-see-when-you-get-60-years-old-and-they-know-you-re-george-burns-143-18-73.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9TJp8Rcn0k

    , @MrAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    YetAnotherAnon,

    Anatoly Karlin was 30 years old when he wrote he finds 14 year girls hot. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anatoly_Karlin

    Steve Sailer and many other posters on UNZ are all great, but seriously Anatoly Karlin should be denounced, he is damaging nationalism.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @anon

    , @anonymous
    @YetAnotherAnon


    When I was 14 I found 14 year old girls pretty attractive (along with 15-30 year old girls).
     
    That was roughly the age of the girl who was the subject of the first graphic erotic fantasy I recall. I was 11, perhaps even 10.

    I remember looking at the down on the neck of the pretty redhead in front of me in class and being “lost in wonder, love and praise”.
     
    Sounds not unlike my first memory of infatuation with a girl, classmate, age 7.

    "The more I think about it, the more it just adds-up to love.", I recall telling my grandpa.

  65. @Beliavsky
    Steve Sailer is cited by National Review in a Jan 27 article by Wilfred Reilly, "BLM’s Bloody Bill Comes Due"

    ...

    Even more remarkable than the existence of what is sometimes just called the “crime wave” was how targeted its effects actually were. While I have seen few mainstream pundits bold enough to discuss specific trends here — perhaps because very heterodox writers like Steve Sailer have — the United States has not in fact seen a rise in total crime since the last decade. Per the report “Criminal Victimization, 2021,” based on the victim-reported Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (the BJS-NCVS), which is widely considered the gold standard of American crime data, crime overall did not increase significantly that year.

    As presented in Table 14 of the authoritative report, 2,734,700 Americans were victims of serious (“index”) violent crimes — as compared with 2,599,620 in the Covid-19 lockdown year of 2020, 3,059,060 in 2019, 3,254,250 in 2018, and 3,106,346 back in 2017. Felony property crime also did not increase across this set of years, and neither did white-on-black or black-on-white crime (with this analysis beginning in 2018). Even black crime overall, heavily concentrated in the South, wasn’t really up: Contra internet memes of the “13/50” variety, identified blacks committed 974,378 — or just about 25 percent — of the 3,995,668 total violent crimes that took place in 2021. All of this data, which is totally noncontroversial, can be read in the report.

    What did increase was hyper-violent, specifically black-on-black crime — murders, public shootings — concentrated in large and mostly blue cities that basically gave up on the idea of enforcing the law (“white” cities that did the same, such as Portland, Ore., saw similar results). Between the late 2010s and 2022, black Americans went from being responsible for less than 50 percent of 14,000–17,000 murders annually to being responsible for 60.4 percent of the 22,900 annual murders sourced above. Per easily available FBI data, the black homicide rate increased by roughly 50 percent in just the few years since the death of George Floyd. This is, notably, a purely “culturalist” result that has nothing to do with genetics or racism. It is, also, one of the most significant legacies of BLM.

    ...

    Replies: @Anon, @J.Ross, @bomag, @fnn

    Per the report “Criminal Victimization, 2021,” based on the victim-reported Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (the BJS-NCVS), which is widely considered the gold standard of American crime data, crime overall did not increase significantly that year.

    I’m thinking that in our hyper-Woke era, this under-reports the data.

    Also consider the efforts taken to avoid.

  66. @J.Ross
    @Beliavsky

    13/50 specifically referred to murder and the guy disapproves of it but then goes on to say it now doesn't go far enough.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Indeed, it is astonishing how even aspiring iconoclasts find it so difficult not to genuflect in the direction of conventional pieties. I’m not like those bad people, I’m nuanced!

  67. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Chris Rock

    When I was 14 I found 14 year old girls pretty attractive (along with 15-30 year old girls).

    I remember looking at the down on the neck of the pretty redhead in front of me in class and being "lost in wonder, love and praise".

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @MrAnon, @anonymous

  68. @Mr. Anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The bug-eating propaganda is coming thicker and faster now. Consider the up-beat tone in that article you linked to: Oh Boy! You mean we get to eat bugs!? At last!!

    And to think for all those years the USDA fined food processing plants if they had insect parts in them. Why, they were just being eco-conscious.

    I figure it's all part of the plan. Make people eat bugs so they have one less thing to live for. Make thier lives so abjectly miserable that they gladly step into the corner suicide booth. It's all part of the soft-kill agenda.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

    And a big egg factory went up in flames the other day. Add another food factory to the pyre. It’s almist as if they’re gradually reducing our non-bug options. It’s working so well with fuel, why not?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Thirdtwin

    No matter what else happens, if you have backyard chickens, then you cannot die of holod-omor or government-created-famine.
    No matter what else happens, if you do not eat the bugs, you avoid all the problems associated with ingesting chitin, and defeat them.
    https://i.postimg.cc/tCVRKPxs/1675010055192830.jpg

  69. @Thirdtwin
    @Mr. Anon

    And a big egg factory went up in flames the other day. Add another food factory to the pyre. It’s almist as if they’re gradually reducing our non-bug options. It’s working so well with fuel, why not?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    No matter what else happens, if you have backyard chickens, then you cannot die of holod-omor or government-created-famine.
    No matter what else happens, if you do not eat the bugs, you avoid all the problems associated with ingesting chitin, and defeat them.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  70. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    @rebel yell

    It's been pointed out that folks in the North and the South had different ways of dealing with blacks.

    In the North, where blacks were few in number, they were legally equal but Whites didn't want them around.

    In the South, where they were plentiful, they were subordinate to Whites but were around.

    A middle-class White family living in a White suburb in the 1950s America could be forgiven for idealizing blacks. They few they came into contact with were well-behaved members of the middle-class and the household help. They really believed that inside of every black there was a middle-class White screaming to be let out and would if given the chance. Urban dwellers and Southerners, who were in close contact with blacks, knew them well-enough not to idealize them. Many Whites still cling to the hope that there must be some magic trick that will convince blacks to reject 'hood behavior and turn into middle-class Whites with a natural suntan.

    An excellent piece by Norman Podhoretz in the February 1963 edition of Commentary magazine, writing about relations with blacks in his poor integrated Brooklyn neighborhood as a child.

    https://www.commentary.org/articles/norman-podhoretz/my-negro-problem-and-ours/

    Replies: @bomag

    Thanks for the link.

    The first 2/3rds is excellent and highly relevant today.

    His conclusion, miscegenation, is pretty cringy.

    Doubt something like that would be written in the mainstream today.

  71. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Chris Rock

    When I was 14 I found 14 year old girls pretty attractive (along with 15-30 year old girls).

    I remember looking at the down on the neck of the pretty redhead in front of me in class and being "lost in wonder, love and praise".

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @MrAnon, @anonymous

    YetAnotherAnon,

    Anatoly Karlin was 30 years old when he wrote he finds 14 year girls hot. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anatoly_Karlin

    Steve Sailer and many other posters on UNZ are all great, but seriously Anatoly Karlin should be denounced, he is damaging nationalism.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @MrAnon

    RationalWiki should be renamed DerangedWiki.

    I wouldn't use it as a source of information if there were only two websites left on earth and the other one was Newsweek.

    I don't know how you can pollute these pixels with a link to it. I will have to ritually cleanse myself now, not to mention a month-long special diet. A good job Lent is coming.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @anon
    @MrAnon


    Anatoly Karlin was 30 years old when he wrote he finds 14 year girls hot.
     
    So you're problem is that he admitted to being a normal heterosexual male?[1]

    The gentlemen* doth protest too much, methinks.

    *The plural is not a typo; my comment is addressed at more than one individual.

    [1] Note: the acknowledgment that a given attraction, appeal, or desire is biologically normal does not, in and of itself, equate to the condoning of, much less advocacy for, the acceptability, much less desirability of any given behavior or act.

    At any rate, girls that age may be hot but boys that age? Simply magic. To notice that much? Who could not? To sodomize or in any way desecrate such precious creatures? Who could?

  72. @Beliavsky
    Steve Sailer is cited by National Review in a Jan 27 article by Wilfred Reilly, "BLM’s Bloody Bill Comes Due"

    ...

    Even more remarkable than the existence of what is sometimes just called the “crime wave” was how targeted its effects actually were. While I have seen few mainstream pundits bold enough to discuss specific trends here — perhaps because very heterodox writers like Steve Sailer have — the United States has not in fact seen a rise in total crime since the last decade. Per the report “Criminal Victimization, 2021,” based on the victim-reported Bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey (the BJS-NCVS), which is widely considered the gold standard of American crime data, crime overall did not increase significantly that year.

    As presented in Table 14 of the authoritative report, 2,734,700 Americans were victims of serious (“index”) violent crimes — as compared with 2,599,620 in the Covid-19 lockdown year of 2020, 3,059,060 in 2019, 3,254,250 in 2018, and 3,106,346 back in 2017. Felony property crime also did not increase across this set of years, and neither did white-on-black or black-on-white crime (with this analysis beginning in 2018). Even black crime overall, heavily concentrated in the South, wasn’t really up: Contra internet memes of the “13/50” variety, identified blacks committed 974,378 — or just about 25 percent — of the 3,995,668 total violent crimes that took place in 2021. All of this data, which is totally noncontroversial, can be read in the report.

    What did increase was hyper-violent, specifically black-on-black crime — murders, public shootings — concentrated in large and mostly blue cities that basically gave up on the idea of enforcing the law (“white” cities that did the same, such as Portland, Ore., saw similar results). Between the late 2010s and 2022, black Americans went from being responsible for less than 50 percent of 14,000–17,000 murders annually to being responsible for 60.4 percent of the 22,900 annual murders sourced above. Per easily available FBI data, the black homicide rate increased by roughly 50 percent in just the few years since the death of George Floyd. This is, notably, a purely “culturalist” result that has nothing to do with genetics or racism. It is, also, one of the most significant legacies of BLM.

    ...

    Replies: @Anon, @J.Ross, @bomag, @fnn

    Between the late 2010s and 2022, black Americans went from being responsible for less than 50 percent of 14,000–17,000 murders annually to being responsible for 60.4 percent of the 22,900 annual murders sourced above. Per easily available FBI data, the black homicide rate increased by roughly 50 percent in just the few years since the death of George Floyd. This is, notably, a purely “culturalist” result that has nothing to do with genetics or racism.

    Or maybe the post-Floyd withdrawal of cops to the donut shop allowed blacks to more purely express their blackness.

  73. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out. Especially, those who made a career out of it. There would be no wave of misery coming for our children. And the rapes, molestations and murders since forced integration began in the 1960s would've been avoided.

    Think of all those victims, mostly white girls. I know it means nothing to this "HBD" crowd that shuns moral courage. Just so tiresome to stand for your own and do you even understand feelings?

    But I can't help but imagine a Tarantino movie with a different ending, a movie where guys from Patrick Moynihan to Nixon to Charles Murray to whatever dregs are left today, spoke clearly as advocates for their people. They would have won. And hundreds of thousands of rape and murder victims would still be with us. And we'd have neighborhoods where couples could see a future, a community of similar people, and a place to raise children!

    What a wonderful world it would have been. But, the vainglorious toadies to power stabbed us in the back. There aren't enough years left to grieve this greatest of betrayals.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @bomag

    Just imagine if those who knew the truth about racial differences had had moral courage to speak out.

    Well, at some level everyone knows. What we’ve got is a grand experiment from those in power to see if ignoring differences and going full “all men are created equal” would be a viable strategy. Pretty dismal results, with society as segregated as ever, and the civil rights movement morphing into a forever gibs movement. But the show must go on, inertia et al, the prospect of overt Jim Crow type arrangements being too distasteful: expensive and sucky.

  74. @Anon
    @Beliavsky

    Heather McDonald’s appearance this week on Ann Coulter’s Substack podcast was very impressive. She is chock-full of all kinds of statistics that I’ve heard from Steve, as well as a lot of stuff that was news to me.

    She had a lot to say about how police departments hire unqualified black officers with criminal records because that’s the only way they can up the numbers. She also talks about the lack of training, including the commonsense training that tells new police officers that they need to cut ties with acquaintances who are criminals.

    Replies: @james wilson

    Average Afrerican IQ and police work do not mix. Top, say, quarter of blacks will be offered better AA employment so recuiting qualified blacks to the police is espcially difficult. No doubt Heather has written of this somewhere.

  75. @MrAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    YetAnotherAnon,

    Anatoly Karlin was 30 years old when he wrote he finds 14 year girls hot. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anatoly_Karlin

    Steve Sailer and many other posters on UNZ are all great, but seriously Anatoly Karlin should be denounced, he is damaging nationalism.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @anon

    RationalWiki should be renamed DerangedWiki.

    I wouldn’t use it as a source of information if there were only two websites left on earth and the other one was Newsweek.

    I don’t know how you can pollute these pixels with a link to it. I will have to ritually cleanse myself now, not to mention a month-long special diet. A good job Lent is coming.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Out of interest what is your problem with it?

    The original purpose of RW was to criticise and debunk young earth creationism pseudoscience in response to Conservapedia. It then expanded to criticise woo and other pseudosciences like astrology and conspiracy theories from Moon landing hoax, flat earth etc. In ~2015 they began criticising 'racial realism'. Is that your only issue?

    To claim RationalWiki is "psychoticwiki" or "derangedwiki" is dumb considering it is anti-creationist, anti-flatearth and so on. Are you or Steve Sailer defending creationism?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  76. Anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    @MrAnon

    RationalWiki should be renamed DerangedWiki.

    I wouldn't use it as a source of information if there were only two websites left on earth and the other one was Newsweek.

    I don't know how you can pollute these pixels with a link to it. I will have to ritually cleanse myself now, not to mention a month-long special diet. A good job Lent is coming.

    Replies: @Anon

    Out of interest what is your problem with it?

    The original purpose of RW was to criticise and debunk young earth creationism pseudoscience in response to Conservapedia. It then expanded to criticise woo and other pseudosciences like astrology and conspiracy theories from Moon landing hoax, flat earth etc. In ~2015 they began criticising ‘racial realism’. Is that your only issue?

    To claim RationalWiki is “psychoticwiki” or “derangedwiki” is dumb considering it is anti-creationist, anti-flatearth and so on. Are you or Steve Sailer defending creationism?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anon

    "Out of interest what is your problem with it?"

    It's not rational. That's a pretty big problem. Instead it sticks a label on something or someone.

    "Racist pseudoscience" is a label, not a description, indeed "pseudoscience" basically means "science I don't like". If there's an issue with someone's work, why not argue it out.... wait for it ... rationally?

    There's already Wikipedia and the mainstream press to tell me whose views are approved and whose aren't.

    (I don't follow Young Earth Creationists, and don't see value in debunking them)

  77. @Stogumber
    Steve, what's your problem here? He has obviously knowlege in classical studies and , as every specialist, conccentrates on particular riddles which are unsolved. Some combinations are far-fetched, but not insane.
    Would it be more rational for him to write about crime statistics and IQ?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @puttheforkdown, @John Milton’s Ghost

    The problem is that rationalwiki is really just left wing conventional wisdom wiki. Read their takes on economics, e.g., or transgenderism. Most articles make appeals to authority, which means any heterodox right leaning opinion is negated because the proponent doesn’t have a degree from some Ivy League blah blah.

    Seriously read rational wiki first and then you might see the bigger picture.

  78. @Anon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Out of interest what is your problem with it?

    The original purpose of RW was to criticise and debunk young earth creationism pseudoscience in response to Conservapedia. It then expanded to criticise woo and other pseudosciences like astrology and conspiracy theories from Moon landing hoax, flat earth etc. In ~2015 they began criticising 'racial realism'. Is that your only issue?

    To claim RationalWiki is "psychoticwiki" or "derangedwiki" is dumb considering it is anti-creationist, anti-flatearth and so on. Are you or Steve Sailer defending creationism?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Out of interest what is your problem with it?”

    It’s not rational. That’s a pretty big problem. Instead it sticks a label on something or someone.

    “Racist pseudoscience” is a label, not a description, indeed “pseudoscience” basically means “science I don’t like”. If there’s an issue with someone’s work, why not argue it out…. wait for it … rationally?

    There’s already Wikipedia and the mainstream press to tell me whose views are approved and whose aren’t.

    (I don’t follow Young Earth Creationists, and don’t see value in debunking them)

  79. anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon3748
    @Pixo

    Pixo you are a close friend of Emil Kirkegaard, I take it you also like children.

    "There is another potential reason why it is a good idea to legalize child porn. Some studies show that the availability of porn has reduced rape rates. Since child porn is a subset of porn, one could expect the same thing to happen with it. The causal theory is that when people have access to porn, they jack off to that instead and thus are less horny, and so less likely to rape. This reasoning applies just as well to child porn."

    ----Emil Kirkegaard in his own words

    "Perhaps a compromise is having sex with a sleeping child without them knowing it (so, using sleeping medicine). If they dont notice it is difficult to see how they cud be harmed, even if it is rape. One must distinguish between rape becus the other was disconsenting (wanting to not have sex), and rape becus the other is not consenting, but not disconseting either (so, unaware of the action becus of sleep or coma or something like that). There is also the possibility of bodily harm that will be there after the person wakes up. This is especially the case with small children since their bodily openings are not large enuf for a regular sized male penis. To avoid this one shud not penetrate."

    ----Emil Kirkegaard in his own words

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emil_O._W._Kirkegaard#Child_porn_and_rape_blog_posts

    Replies: @anonymous

    Re: 1st quote: Just what is wrong with the arguments articulated therein by Kirkegaard? Can you actually counter any of them? Have you even given any thought to doing so?

    Re: 2nd quote: I recall discussion of it on Anatoly Karlin’s somewhere between 2016-2018 as best as I can recall. While I did not follow or look into the matter in any depth, I do distinctly recall Mr. Karlin making a compelling argument that Kirkegaard was merely engaging in purely hypothetical logical exercise/exploration, and that the quotes-in-question were lifted out of that context in order to libel him.

    Have you even read the writing of Kirkegaard’s in-question in-context, in its entirety? With so much as an honest attempt to accurately understand? Or are you merely wantonly and with malice hurling incendiaries about?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @anonymous

    Do try to keep up. The case went to court and Emil Kirkegaard lost. The outcome of the case is a reader could come to the opinion Kirkegaard is an apologist for pedophilia based on his own comments. The comments he sued Smith for writing were honest opinion. The outcome was obviously a humiliating defeat for Kirkegaard which is why he never mentions it and refused to pay Smith's legal costs and is in contempt of court.

    https://en.everybodywiki.com/Kirkegaard_v_Smith

    If you describe 'age of consent' a fiction and support lowering it to 13 year old children, then in most people's minds this would amount to pedophilia-apologetics:


    For ‘age of consent’-fiction (people can consent at any age, even babies consent and disconsent to stuff happening to them!), perhaps a dual approach. Either 13 years old or start of puberty, whichever comes first
     
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emil_O._W._Kirkegaard#Age_of_consent

    Those are his own words. Nothing is quoted out of context.

  80. The Iñupiat Origin of Santa Claus

    That this is true is common knowledge by now, isn’t it? I’ll not bother reading the study but if it doesn’t mention the heavy involvement of the Coca Cola Company it’s lacking.

  81. anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    @Chris Rock

    When I was 14 I found 14 year old girls pretty attractive (along with 15-30 year old girls).

    I remember looking at the down on the neck of the pretty redhead in front of me in class and being "lost in wonder, love and praise".

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @MrAnon, @anonymous

    When I was 14 I found 14 year old girls pretty attractive (along with 15-30 year old girls).

    That was roughly the age of the girl who was the subject of the first graphic erotic fantasy I recall. I was 11, perhaps even 10.

    I remember looking at the down on the neck of the pretty redhead in front of me in class and being “lost in wonder, love and praise”.

    Sounds not unlike my first memory of infatuation with a girl, classmate, age 7.

    “The more I think about it, the more it just adds-up to love.”, I recall telling my grandpa.

  82. Anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    @anon3748

    Re: 1st quote: Just what is wrong with the arguments articulated therein by Kirkegaard? Can you actually counter any of them? Have you even given any thought to doing so?

    Re: 2nd quote: I recall discussion of it on Anatoly Karlin's somewhere between 2016-2018 as best as I can recall. While I did not follow or look into the matter in any depth, I do distinctly recall Mr. Karlin making a compelling argument that Kirkegaard was merely engaging in purely hypothetical logical exercise/exploration, and that the quotes-in-question were lifted out of that context in order to libel him.

    Have you even read the writing of Kirkegaard's in-question in-context, in its entirety? With so much as an honest attempt to accurately understand? Or are you merely wantonly and with malice hurling incendiaries about?

    Replies: @Anon

    Do try to keep up. The case went to court and Emil Kirkegaard lost. The outcome of the case is a reader could come to the opinion Kirkegaard is an apologist for pedophilia based on his own comments. The comments he sued Smith for writing were honest opinion. The outcome was obviously a humiliating defeat for Kirkegaard which is why he never mentions it and refused to pay Smith’s legal costs and is in contempt of court.

    https://en.everybodywiki.com/Kirkegaard_v_Smith

    If you describe ‘age of consent’ a fiction and support lowering it to 13 year old children, then in most people’s minds this would amount to pedophilia-apologetics:

    For ‘age of consent’-fiction (people can consent at any age, even babies consent and disconsent to stuff happening to them!), perhaps a dual approach. Either 13 years old or start of puberty, whichever comes first

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emil_O._W._Kirkegaard#Age_of_consent

    Those are his own words. Nothing is quoted out of context.

  83. @Pixo
    @Roger Yate

    O hai Oliver!

    You’re not just a crazy stalker of writers about IQ topics, you are such an antisocial screwup even your fellow autistic antifa weirdos can’t stand you.

    http://coldfusioncommunity.net/anglo-pyramidologist/oliver-d-smith/

    Phenotype says it all:

    https://encyclopediadramatica.online/images/8/83/OliverSmith03.jpg

    Replies: @tyrone, @Tony, @Anon

    Lols.

    So if someone doesn’t believe in race and intelligence pseudoscience (probably 99% of the world population) they must be an Antifa / Marxist / SJW. *facepalm*

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Anon

    Oliver, your writing and phenotype make you very easy to identify as a SJW mentally ill loser.

    Think for a moment how much better your life would be if you were as handsome as Emil, and seethe as you keep writing checks to lawyers to collect your court costs which he will never pay.

    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/0*R3tP4fZNy7sPTvxy.jpg

    Hint: if you had a chance of collecting the lawyers would offer contingency or to buy your claim.

    Replies: @Anonman4, @Angry bald man

  84. @Anon
    @Pixo

    Lols.

    So if someone doesn't believe in race and intelligence pseudoscience (probably 99% of the world population) they must be an Antifa / Marxist / SJW. *facepalm*

    Replies: @Pixo

    Oliver, your writing and phenotype make you very easy to identify as a SJW mentally ill loser.

    Think for a moment how much better your life would be if you were as handsome as Emil, and seethe as you keep writing checks to lawyers to collect your court costs which he will never pay.

    Hint: if you had a chance of collecting the lawyers would offer contingency or to buy your claim.

    • Replies: @Anonman4
    @Pixo

    Emil Kirkegaard is a fake name, his real name is William Engman.

    , @Angry bald man
    @Pixo

    How does Emil Kirkgaaard have that full head of hair. We want to know.

  85. @Loyalty Over IQ Worship
    That's nothing. Look at this fruit loop who is the Director of National Intelligence. Avril Danica Haines is her name. Her and her hubby used to own a bookstore that held erotic readings. She has all the right connections and no accomplishments.

    Just look at that creepy face. She is, of course, a neocon globalist who hates actual Americans.
    Remember that the next time you hear "urgent information" about some national security issue. Not trustworthy.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Avril-Haines.jpg

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel, @Colin Wright, @Ian Smith

    If Jeff Bezos joined the late-in-life tranny club…

  86. None of his posts were hypothetical, if they were he would have added a disclaimer.

    You should always go to the original source, his own website.

    https://archive.is/c3Vy8

  87. @Pixo
    @Anon

    Oliver, your writing and phenotype make you very easy to identify as a SJW mentally ill loser.

    Think for a moment how much better your life would be if you were as handsome as Emil, and seethe as you keep writing checks to lawyers to collect your court costs which he will never pay.

    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/0*R3tP4fZNy7sPTvxy.jpg

    Hint: if you had a chance of collecting the lawyers would offer contingency or to buy your claim.

    Replies: @Anonman4, @Angry bald man

    Emil Kirkegaard is a fake name, his real name is William Engman.

  88. @Pixo
    @Anon

    Oliver, your writing and phenotype make you very easy to identify as a SJW mentally ill loser.

    Think for a moment how much better your life would be if you were as handsome as Emil, and seethe as you keep writing checks to lawyers to collect your court costs which he will never pay.

    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/0*R3tP4fZNy7sPTvxy.jpg

    Hint: if you had a chance of collecting the lawyers would offer contingency or to buy your claim.

    Replies: @Anonman4, @Angry bald man

    How does Emil Kirkgaaard have that full head of hair. We want to know.

  89. The only thing I know about Karlin is that Anatoly Karlin enjoys eating beef

  90. Oliver should first answer when and from where the future Greeks came to today’s Greece and who lived there. Who lived in Troy?

    • Replies: @Odyssey
    @Odyssey

    I read Oliver’s article “A New Suggested Site for Troy”, published a year ago in the magazine 'Athens Journal of History'. I think he is on the wrong track, and it would be a shame to waste his time on the book he has announced. If we look at the Wiki reference, we can see contradictions. The island of Imbros has been part of the Turkish state since 1960, and now most of the inhabitants are Turks.

    Wiki says that the Greeks lived there from the Iron Age until 1960. However, in the same text, Wiki says that the natives of the island were Pelasgians. It means that the Greeks moved there later. When? The same reference says that the Luwians gave the name of the island. The Asia Minor states of Phrygia, Lydia and Lycia were Hellenized only after Alexander the Great. It means not earlier than 330 BC.

    So, the Greeks still didn’t live there at that time that is about 800 years after the Trojan Battle. It is known that no Greeks resided in Troy and that Homer was not Greek. It means that Oliver is on the wrong track. I only agree with him (and other archaeologists) that Troy was not in the place in Turkey that it is currently considered to be.

    Hence, the first thing is to determine when and from where the Greeks came to today’s Greece. There is great resistance to establishing it. I can tell Oliver where Troy is and maybe we can write it together. The Olympian mythology in the Iliad cannot be Greek (they even did not have this name at that time) since the Greeks only saw Olympus for the first time almost 900 years after that battle. Greeks got this name from the previously mentioned Pelasgians, and it was used widely after Roman conquering in the 2nd c BC.
    Did they bring Olympian mythology from Egypt and the Middle East? I doubt.

    Oliver finishes his article: “The Imbros-Troy location hypothesis is more plausible than Pergamon and Cilicia; the author plans to develop his ideas about Troy in a subsequent book.”

    I think it’s a waste of time unless he wants to force himself to be original.

  91. I am a gay follower of UNZ and was even going to donate to this website. I am offended that Emil Kirkegaard is calling us mentally ill.

    What a nasty little man.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Blondedude

    Every single group is eventually called something by someone here.

    Yes even straight White men.

    Jung has gone on crazy rants about us.

    If you have too many dissenting opinions you will get labeled a Jew so it really doesn't matter what group you are actually from.

  92. @Odyssey
    Oliver should first answer when and from where the future Greeks came to today's Greece and who lived there. Who lived in Troy?

    Replies: @Odyssey

    I read Oliver’s article “A New Suggested Site for Troy”, published a year ago in the magazine ‘Athens Journal of History’. I think he is on the wrong track, and it would be a shame to waste his time on the book he has announced. If we look at the Wiki reference, we can see contradictions. The island of Imbros has been part of the Turkish state since 1960, and now most of the inhabitants are Turks.

    Wiki says that the Greeks lived there from the Iron Age until 1960. However, in the same text, Wiki says that the natives of the island were Pelasgians. It means that the Greeks moved there later. When? The same reference says that the Luwians gave the name of the island. The Asia Minor states of Phrygia, Lydia and Lycia were Hellenized only after Alexander the Great. It means not earlier than 330 BC.

    So, the Greeks still didn’t live there at that time that is about 800 years after the Trojan Battle. It is known that no Greeks resided in Troy and that Homer was not Greek. It means that Oliver is on the wrong track. I only agree with him (and other archaeologists) that Troy was not in the place in Turkey that it is currently considered to be.

    Hence, the first thing is to determine when and from where the Greeks came to today’s Greece. There is great resistance to establishing it. I can tell Oliver where Troy is and maybe we can write it together. The Olympian mythology in the Iliad cannot be Greek (they even did not have this name at that time) since the Greeks only saw Olympus for the first time almost 900 years after that battle. Greeks got this name from the previously mentioned Pelasgians, and it was used widely after Roman conquering in the 2nd c BC.
    Did they bring Olympian mythology from Egypt and the Middle East? I doubt.

    Oliver finishes his article: “The Imbros-Troy location hypothesis is more plausible than Pergamon and Cilicia; the author plans to develop his ideas about Troy in a subsequent book.”

    I think it’s a waste of time unless he wants to force himself to be original.

  93. anon[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @MrAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    YetAnotherAnon,

    Anatoly Karlin was 30 years old when he wrote he finds 14 year girls hot. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anatoly_Karlin

    Steve Sailer and many other posters on UNZ are all great, but seriously Anatoly Karlin should be denounced, he is damaging nationalism.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @anon

    Anatoly Karlin was 30 years old when he wrote he finds 14 year girls hot.

    So you’re problem is that he admitted to being a normal heterosexual male?[1]

    The gentlemen* doth protest too much, methinks.

    [MORE]

    *The plural is not a typo; my comment is addressed at more than one individual.

    [1] Note: the acknowledgment that a given attraction, appeal, or desire is biologically normal does not, in and of itself, equate to the condoning of, much less advocacy for, the acceptability, much less desirability of any given behavior or act.

    At any rate, girls that age may be hot but boys that age? Simply magic. To notice that much? Who could not? To sodomize or in any way desecrate such precious creatures? Who could?

  94. Regarding 14 year olds, I don’t know who Anatoly Karlin was talking about (granting that he even said anything like that), but consider this:
    Do you consider the popular long-running television situational comedy That Seventies Show to be pædophile material? Apparently Mila Kunis lied to get into show business and was, when she started out on that program — fourteen. Producers required eighteen but this was back when Dan Schneider had hit his stride. Anyone want to put their hand on a bible and say that Mila Kunis was not objectively highly good looking until recently? There are 14yo girls who do not look 14 and then you have Ariana Grande building a look around looking much younger than she is. Karlin could have been talking about a mature looking girl and the accuser is neither impartial nor trustworthy, so it is totally unreasonable to conclude that he is a child molester based on that statement.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @J.Ross


    Karlin could have been talking about a mature looking girl and the accuser is neither impartial nor trustworthy, so it is totally unreasonable to conclude that he is a child molester based on that statement.
     
    Appreciate your point but you make several extremely common conflations/ errors that ought to be corrected.

    1.) Pedophilia is, by definition, sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
    2.) It is quite rare for a female to not have reached puberty by the age of 14.
    3.) Pedophile =/= child molester.
    All child molesters* are pedophiles may be an accurate statement but the converse would not.
    (*if we assume the molestation-in-question is of a sexual nature)
    , @A Nationalist
    @J.Ross

    Anatoly Karlin said he finds Petro Poroshenko's daughter hot and posted a picture of her. At the time the photo was taken, she had only just turned 14. There is nothing mature about this young girl.

    https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/471615476481536000

    Nobody has ever called Anatoly Karlin a child molester. They have merely cited his tweets where he has claimed to find 14 year old girls "hot".

    As a father I am offended by Karlin.

  95. @Blondedude
    I am a gay follower of UNZ and was even going to donate to this website. I am offended that Emil Kirkegaard is calling us mentally ill.

    https://twitter.com/KirkegaardEmil/status/1618671835415195648

    What a nasty little man.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Every single group is eventually called something by someone here.

    Yes even straight White men.

    Jung has gone on crazy rants about us.

    If you have too many dissenting opinions you will get labeled a Jew so it really doesn’t matter what group you are actually from.

    • LOL: Dube, Dieter Kief
  96. Anonymous[505] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Regarding 14 year olds, I don't know who Anatoly Karlin was talking about (granting that he even said anything like that), but consider this:
    Do you consider the popular long-running television situational comedy That Seventies Show to be pædophile material? Apparently Mila Kunis lied to get into show business and was, when she started out on that program -- fourteen. Producers required eighteen but this was back when Dan Schneider had hit his stride. Anyone want to put their hand on a bible and say that Mila Kunis was not objectively highly good looking until recently? There are 14yo girls who do not look 14 and then you have Ariana Grande building a look around looking much younger than she is. Karlin could have been talking about a mature looking girl and the accuser is neither impartial nor trustworthy, so it is totally unreasonable to conclude that he is a child molester based on that statement.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @A Nationalist

    Karlin could have been talking about a mature looking girl and the accuser is neither impartial nor trustworthy, so it is totally unreasonable to conclude that he is a child molester based on that statement.

    Appreciate your point but you make several extremely common conflations/ errors that ought to be corrected.

    1.) Pedophilia is, by definition, sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
    2.) It is quite rare for a female to not have reached puberty by the age of 14.
    3.) Pedophile =/= child molester.
    All child molesters* are pedophiles may be an accurate statement but the converse would not.
    (*if we assume the molestation-in-question is of a sexual nature)

  97. @J.Ross
    Regarding 14 year olds, I don't know who Anatoly Karlin was talking about (granting that he even said anything like that), but consider this:
    Do you consider the popular long-running television situational comedy That Seventies Show to be pædophile material? Apparently Mila Kunis lied to get into show business and was, when she started out on that program -- fourteen. Producers required eighteen but this was back when Dan Schneider had hit his stride. Anyone want to put their hand on a bible and say that Mila Kunis was not objectively highly good looking until recently? There are 14yo girls who do not look 14 and then you have Ariana Grande building a look around looking much younger than she is. Karlin could have been talking about a mature looking girl and the accuser is neither impartial nor trustworthy, so it is totally unreasonable to conclude that he is a child molester based on that statement.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @A Nationalist

    Anatoly Karlin said he finds Petro Poroshenko’s daughter hot and posted a picture of her. At the time the photo was taken, she had only just turned 14. There is nothing mature about this young girl.

    Nobody has ever called Anatoly Karlin a child molester. They have merely cited his tweets where he has claimed to find 14 year old girls “hot”.

    As a father I am offended by Karlin.

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