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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lOaVnh-0I

From CBS News:

… The president urged Americans to not “let the actions of a few define all of us,” saying that the “demented individual” who carried out the attack in Dallas was “no more representative of African-Americans” than Dylann Roof, the suspect in the Charleston, South Carolina church shooting, was of white Americans or Omar Mateen, the gunman in the Orlando nightclub massacre, was of Muslim Americans.

“They don’t speak for us – that’s not who we are,” the president said. Asked later on what caused the Dallas attacker to open fire on police officer, he added that it’s “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter.”

Commenter Hepp notes that the President’s opinions on the broad relevance of Dylann Roof’s atrocity have changed, conveniently:

Obama preaches — and sings — in protest of racism
In eulogy for slain pastor, the president issues a call to action to battle the systemic racism that he said the murders must force America to confront.

By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE 06/26/15 12:35

CHARLESTON, S.C. – President Barack Obama brought a crowd 5,500 mourners to their feet and led them in singing “Amazing Grace” in an act of defiance Friday against the hatred that fueled the killings of nine African-Americans at the legendary Mother Emanuel church a block and a half away — a eulogy that was also a call to action to battle the systemic racism that he said the attack must force America to confront.

He was, preachers who followed him said, “the Reverend President.”

Children left in poverty, dilapidated schools, a criminal justice system in need of reform, denied voting rights, black men who don’t get called back for job interviews: this is what the white supremacist killing African-Americans in a church, a place Obama said should be “inviolate” for the community, should remind the country of.

The Confederate flag — “we all have to acknowledge that the flag has always represented more than ancestral pride,” Obama said bluntly — must come down. That, though, is just the very beginning of what needs to be done.

“By taking down that flag, we express God’s grace,” Obama said, giving his eulogy for Rev. Clementa Pinckney. “But I don’t think God wants us to stop there.”

“For too long,” Obama called out to the crowd at one point, talking about the legacy of racism. “Too long!” the crowd called back.

Dylann Roof, the shooter, “drew on the long history of bombs and arson and shots fired at churches — not random, but as a means to control. A way to terrorize and oppress.” …

Commenter candid_observer adds some quotes from Obama’s South Carolina eulogy:

“Maybe we now realize the way racial bias can infect us even when we don’t realize it,” Mr. Obama said as Mr. Pinckney’s coffin, draped in a blanket of red roses, sat before him. “So that we’re guarding against not just racial slurs, but we’re also guarding against the subtle impulse to call Johnny back for a job interview, but not Jamal. So that we search our hearts when we consider laws to make it harder for some of our fellow citizens to vote.” By treating every child as important regardless of skin color and by opening up opportunities for all Americans, Mr. Obama said, “We express God’s grace.”

And:

“For too long,” Mr. Obama said, “we’ve been blind to the way past injustices continue to shape the present. Perhaps we see that now. Perhaps this tragedy causes us to ask some tough questions about how we can permit so many of our children to languish in poverty, or attend dilapidated schools, or grow up without prospects for a job or for a career.”

Fair enough.

But, it’s not 1955, it’s the current year. After generations of intensifying propaganda from authority figures, such as the POTUS, about how the white male power structure is out to get the coalition of the fringes, is it all that surprising when a fringe element in the coalition of the fringes starts murdering whites? It’s happened before (e.g., the Zebra murders in California), although the country tries to not remember that.

How about a little more moderation and restraint on the part of the powerful?

 
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  1. I thought it was a scientifically proven historical fact that Dylann Roof represented all white males, and especially those born in the American South. Who can not be troubled by the President’s statement that seems to imply he was just plain fucked up?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Hugh

    Not only did Roof represent all white Southern males but his very existence demanded that all Confederate flags come down, that all college buildings and depts. named for Southern males must be renamed, etc. This is the only right and proper response to such murderous hate.

    But Micah's motives are a total mystery despite his clear and explicit statements and from his mysterious acts we cannot, we must not draw any conclusions, nor is BLM nor anyone else required to change their future behavior or statements in any way as a result of this strange loner Micah who ain't got nothing to do with nobody.

    , @TomSchmidt
    @Hugh

    Obama saying That was actually kind of hopeful.

  2. Was this a real story or a parody? Did he actually drop a “that’s not who we are” quote about this situation?

    • Replies: @Jokah Macpherson
    @Anonymous

    "That's not who we are" is his response to everything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Trumpenproleteriat

    , @tbraton
    @Anonymous

    "Was this a real story or a parody? Did he actually drop a “that’s not who we are” quote about this situation?"

    Well, Obama was certainly speaking for me in this situation since I am definitely not a black racist who wants to kill whites, policemen or not. In fact, I have no desire to kill anyone, white, black, brown or yellow, because that's not who I am.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Olorin
    @Anonymous

    He rarely talks about who, in fact, "we" are. Or who the "we" is he's indicating...though we know it's not mainstream Americans.

    There's a screaming void at the center of this guy. Kind of like shopoholics. "Don't want that, no, don't want that, not that, maybe this...no.... Is this me? No, that's not who I am. What about this?"

    Obama is as he has always been: a blank, a gap, a big black hole never satisfied no how much money and good faith is shoveled in. The voice of the discontented, itchy consumer whose consumption never satisfies. Because it's engineered not to.

    The voice of the affirmative action Peter Principled mystery meat rootless cosmopolitan. The voice of the ideal resident of the globalista 21st century. "I want that! No, it's not good enough! I want that other thing!" And middlemen sopping up the profits at every step and phase.

  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Obama goes to the Big Lie in every speech. Egregious, in yo face gas-lighting.

    I’d say the racial teflon and demographic shift is allowing this guy to offer up outrageous lies without suffering a credibility gap that collapses his poll numbers on the trust issue.

    But notice that Hillary is unable to perform the same magic trick.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Anonymous


    Obama goes to the Big Lie in every speech. Egregious, in yo face gas-lighting.
     
    Just think of him as the First Rap Artist President, YO! The $$$ucesss of Jayzee and other rappers inspired Obama to put the same thing over on the American public. Next time you hear of a rapper check out his net worth on the internet. You would be shocked. Americans are dumb enough to make them rich and elect Obama twice.
  4. …that’s not who we are,” the president said.

    Maybe, someday, he will fill us in on precisely who we are.

  5. The “shooter” said he wanted to kill white people.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Brohemius


    The “shooter” said he wanted to kill white people.
     
    Yes, and that's a direct quote from the BLACK police chief of Dallas... who would presumably know more about the situation than Obama, traveling overseas.

    Obama's statement is psychological projection on his part.

    We know the shooter's motive, because he announced it. What Obama really means is that he is himself ambivalent about the shooting of the police. On some level, Obama sympathizes with the cops being shot. He can't say that, of course, but everything in his background from Dreams of My Father to Rev. Wright's "sermons" to the Skip Gates "we don't know all the facts but the cops acted stupidly" incident indicates that psychologically, Obama sees himself and other blacks as victims of a white totalitarian police state.

    Obama pulled the same stunt not two weeks ago. When the Muslim shot up the gay club and announced that he was doing it for Allah and for ISIS, Obama likewise stated that the shooter's motives were unclear. The motives were perfectly clear; Obama simply cannot bring himself to criticize Islam because attachment to it is part of his own psyche.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @interesting

  6. What an asshole.

    POS spends eight years ginning up racial hatred, and then tries to pretend he doesn’t know why this happened.

    Until we can, in public, talk about the following things without our careers and lives threatened, we cannot solve these problems:

    1. Race exists.

    2. Blacks are far more prone to violence and anti-social than non-blacks.

    3. IQ exists, and is correlated with race.

    • Replies: @anon
    @whorefinder

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous, @Flip, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @John Galt

  7. It would be interesting to know what the late shooter thought of Obama.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Zach

    Probably a big admirer.

  8. Disturbing to hear Obama say Micah Johnson was a troubled, demented individual that psychologists should have examined. I thought the prevailing theory was that only white mass shooters are given the luxury of mental illness as an excuse?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Anonymous

    In the case of almost every Presidential assassin or school shooter, you have a combination of a mentally disturbed individual who has developed a sense of grievance over some topic of current interest and who has a firearm or access to some kind of explosive. Mostly they are loners, or at least not part of any coherent movement. Mostly they are not romantically or reproductively successful or parents, or successful in careers.

    Timothy McVeigh was a good example--a disturbed Gulf War veteran who developed delusional ideas about overthrowing the federal government and managed to take one or two friends along with him.

    Micah Johnson is just another American failure whose name will live in infamy.

  9. he added that it’s “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter.”

    That’s one lyin’ MF sittin in the WH.

    Or maybe he really is that stupid. For the rest of us, it’s pretty simple:

    Racism.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Svigor

    Obama demonstrates once again that he is unable to speak coherently without a teleprompter. His impromptu remarks range from the banal to the idiotic and ill-conceived. Not being able to think on his feet is a bad quality for someone pretending to be the leader of the free world. I am counting the days until that stuffed shirt community organizer exits the White House.

  10. Obama goes to the Big Lie in every speech. Egregious, in yo face gas-lighting.

    I echo your sentiments, but gaslighting refers to deception so convincing that the recipient questions his sanity. Hussein’s lie is at the very opposite end of the spectrum; it’s so bad, it leads you to question his.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Svigor

    B-Ho is nether extraordinarily smart nor extraordinarily stupid. He knows that this is what his handlers want him to say and that a sufficient number of people will either believe it or pretend they do that it does not matter that it is ridiculous.

  11. “Very hard to untangle” = “somebody call my speech/ghost writers in here, stat; I need an unquotable 1k word paragraph by Monday morning.”

  12. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @whorefinder
    What an asshole.

    POS spends eight years ginning up racial hatred, and then tries to pretend he doesn't know why this happened.

    Until we can, in public, talk about the following things without our careers and lives threatened, we cannot solve these problems:

    1. Race exists.

    2. Blacks are far more prone to violence and anti-social than non-blacks.

    3. IQ exists, and is correlated with race.

    Replies: @anon

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @anon


    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.
     
    Even then, some of them believe in their nonsense religion so wholeheartedly that they will reflexively make excuses about it.


    The non-left is losing because we don't control the megaphones. The Hollywood-Media monopolies must be shattered.

    Replies: @RonaldB, @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @anon

    yeah, ask most white south africans

    , @Flip
    @anon

    Give them Derbyshire's column.

    , @South Texas Guy
    @anon

    It's exactly right that you have to be around a group of people to develop an earned dislike of them.

    I didn't go to school with any blacks, and it wasn't until I was in the service that I was exposed to them. Oh boy did I learn what all the whooplah was about. Not all to be sure, and probably not even a majority, but with that amount of tomfoolery going on with that segment of the population it's impossible to not take it in. Prior to this I thought all blacks were either in the dry cleaning business, irrascible, but loveable junkyard owners or were doctors who owned brownstones in Manhattan.

    I'll tell people that I was in probably 200 fights before high school and they don't believe me. But when you're 5 percent in a 95 percent population it's inevitable. However, I think I'm better for the experience because I got an early glimpse of how the real world works.

    , @AndrewR
    @anon

    Often, the most deluded ones are the ones who have spent a lot of time around blacks. My sister comes to mind.

    Judging from your spelling, I'm not surprised your nephews haven't spent a lot of time around masses of blacks. No other Anglophone country can remotely compare to the US regarding blacks besides South Africa which I'm assuming you're not from.

    Red pilling takes a long time indeed. It took me years.

    , @John Galt
    @anon

    I'm 29 and people in my generation are generally clueless. I went to a high school that was about 40-45% black so I took the red pill early, but I know tons of rich white kids who have no idea how they certain people act. I have been able to convince most of my friends to come to our side, but they are all middle class white guys. The women seem to be much harder and really buy in to the social justice, white guilt bs.

    It's getting worse and worse at work as well, diversity and inclusion crap galore. I'm a CPA so the only diversity we usually have our east asians/indians generally.

  13. Leaving aside the “that’s not who we are” neurotic tic, he has a point in that we can’t judge groups of people by the actions of a member. Okay. BUT in the examples he gave, his speech and the media’s spin held one of them to a different standard.

    There was relentless coverage of Roof, the funerals, the commentary, the allusions to the South as racist and the removal of the Confederate flag. Lots of work for the white folk to do.

    After Orlando the president basically told us WE needed to be more tolerant and understanding toward Muslims.

    After Dallas we’re told WE need to be more loving and compassionate.

    He’s the guy who’s supposed to be playing 11-dimension chess, so surely he can spot the odd one out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @YT Wurlitzer

    Are you implying that black racism in Dallas and its real world consequences on whites are equal to 300+ years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregration. etc. What do you mean when you say "allusions" to the South as racist. Do you believe that the "Old South" wasn't racist?

    Replies: @YT Wurlitzer

  14. Ivy says:
    @Svigor

    he added that it’s “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter.”
     
    That's one lyin' MF sittin in the WH.

    Or maybe he really is that stupid. For the rest of us, it's pretty simple:

    Racism.

    Replies: @Ivy

    Obama demonstrates once again that he is unable to speak coherently without a teleprompter. His impromptu remarks range from the banal to the idiotic and ill-conceived. Not being able to think on his feet is a bad quality for someone pretending to be the leader of the free world. I am counting the days until that stuffed shirt community organizer exits the White House.

  15. I love when Barack Hussein Obama scolds Americans about who we are not.

    He is always completely certain that Jihadis have nothing to do with Islam, and BLM extremists have nothing to do with BLM, and it is always “clear” that when black people are shot during interactions with police they are “not isolated incidents.”

    “We may never know” what inspired the Islamists who never fail to identify their inspiration, says BHO’s AG.

    It’s very hard to “untangle” the motives of a man who explicitly mentioned being motivated by a desire to murder white people, specifically white police officers.

  16. @Hugh
    I thought it was a scientifically proven historical fact that Dylann Roof represented all white males, and especially those born in the American South. Who can not be troubled by the President's statement that seems to imply he was just plain fucked up?

    Replies: @Jack D, @TomSchmidt

    Not only did Roof represent all white Southern males but his very existence demanded that all Confederate flags come down, that all college buildings and depts. named for Southern males must be renamed, etc. This is the only right and proper response to such murderous hate.

    But Micah’s motives are a total mystery despite his clear and explicit statements and from his mysterious acts we cannot, we must not draw any conclusions, nor is BLM nor anyone else required to change their future behavior or statements in any way as a result of this strange loner Micah who ain’t got nothing to do with nobody.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
  17. @Anonymous
    Was this a real story or a parody? Did he actually drop a "that's not who we are" quote about this situation?

    Replies: @Jokah Macpherson, @tbraton, @Olorin

    “That’s not who we are” is his response to everything.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jokah Macpherson

    and that RINO nitwit Paul Ryan.

    , @Trumpenproleteriat
    @Jokah Macpherson

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=gouAcayDwLM

  18. …we cannot solve these problems:

    1. Race exists.

    2. Blacks are far more prone to violence and anti-social than non-blacks.

    3. IQ exists, and is correlated with race.

    We’ve known these facts for quite some time now, and apparently we cannot solve these problems. We’ve talked, discussed, raked over the coals, digested these matters and it hasn’t made one iota of difference, for despite what we see we still deny they (facts) exist. None of us really expect blacks or browns to accept these limitations, thus we shall always be at odds with one another. That is the major disadvantage to diversity as a cure for anything. Diversity breeds contempt, not acceptance.

  19. @Svigor

    Obama goes to the Big Lie in every speech. Egregious, in yo face gas-lighting.
     
    I echo your sentiments, but gaslighting refers to deception so convincing that the recipient questions his sanity. Hussein's lie is at the very opposite end of the spectrum; it's so bad, it leads you to question his.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    B-Ho is nether extraordinarily smart nor extraordinarily stupid. He knows that this is what his handlers want him to say and that a sufficient number of people will either believe it or pretend they do that it does not matter that it is ridiculous.

  20. @Anonymous
    Obama goes to the Big Lie in every speech. Egregious, in yo face gas-lighting.

    I'd say the racial teflon and demographic shift is allowing this guy to offer up outrageous lies without suffering a credibility gap that collapses his poll numbers on the trust issue.

    But notice that Hillary is unable to perform the same magic trick.

    Replies: @Clyde

    Obama goes to the Big Lie in every speech. Egregious, in yo face gas-lighting.

    Just think of him as the First Rap Artist President, YO! The $$$ucesss of Jayzee and other rappers inspired Obama to put the same thing over on the American public. Next time you hear of a rapper check out his net worth on the internet. You would be shocked. Americans are dumb enough to make them rich and elect Obama twice.

  21. @anon
    @whorefinder

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous, @Flip, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @John Galt

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Even then, some of them believe in their nonsense religion so wholeheartedly that they will reflexively make excuses about it.

    The non-left is losing because we don’t control the megaphones. The Hollywood-Media monopolies must be shattered.

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    @whorefinder


    The Hollywood-Media monopolies must be shattered.
     
    It's already gone. You can get all the information you want on the internet. It takes a modicum of work to get it, rather than lying back on the couch and listening to ABC, NBC, Fox, CNN, or NPR. That's why Trump is where he is. The 50% or so supporting Hillary are either rent-seekers, welfare recipients, or dreamy liberal leftists impervious to reason and facts.

    In fact, the government is making a multi-pronged effort to re-establish the media oligopoly through limiting the freedom of the internet through covert regulation. Look at the Fairness Doctrine or the plans of the Obama administration to give "international" organizations the power to assign IP addresses.

    , @Anonymous
    @whorefinder

    @RonaldB
    Even after being assaulted, stripped, and robbed covering the Crown Heights riots, columnist and author Jimmy Breslin downplayed the riots as media over reaction, and it didn't shake his personal identification with the rioters.
    http://www.villagevoice.com/news/faded-rage-6414420
    http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-importance-of-jimmy-breslin-6413990

  22. Marty [AKA "Harvard Hates America"] says:

    Less than an hour ago in SF, I noticed two brothas in a Smartcar in my rearview mirror. They looked kind of sketchy, like retired Panthers from the early ’70s. I said to myself, “I wonder if they’re exempted from vehicle registration? Then they passed me, and shonuff, no sticker. Sure is good to know those Asian cops are doing their bit to foster racial understanding.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Marty

    Two brothers in a smart car? Have to be thieves. No self-respecting black man is going to own a smart car. Those are strictly for older, single white women. With no lives.

    , @David In TN
    @Marty

    "They looked kind of sketchy, like retired Panthers from the early 70's."

    They might have been NOI members from Temple No. 26 from the same time period.

  23. @anon
    @whorefinder

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous, @Flip, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @John Galt

    yeah, ask most white south africans

  24. As Ambassador Kosh said in Babylon 5, “And so it begins.”

    For short term political gain, i.e. increased Black turnout in off-year elections when Obama was not on the ballot, Obama and Dems and the media have ginned up Black rage and violence, against police and Whites in general. Already there are many incidents like the one in TN where the primary target was ordinary White women, working as a clerk, not even a police officer.

    Of course Black rage is pre-existing, the same reason why Jews were hated, Whites are hated by Blacks: higher IQs, higher ability to do cognitive processing. But there is a huge difference between a mean IQ of 100 vs. 115; than 85 vs 100. Which historically limited Jew-hatred among other Whites, but doesn’t for Blacks against Whites.

    An IQ person of say, one std dev below the White mean of 100, i.e. 85 IQ, can still work as a skilled laborer or craftsman or such where muscle memory and repetitive motor skill not high spatial/abstract reasoning bring success. A master carpenter need bow to no one, nor a master chef, in achievement vs. say an accountant.

    HOWEVER a person with one std dev below a mean of 85, say 70 IQ, will fail predictably and routinely at just about everything other than constant supervision and a strong back. Which is superfluous in the machine and post-industrial age. IF you want to know why Whites are hated, by the Black low IQ underclass, it is because Whites can do what they cannot, and they don’t have corresponding fame, skills, and achievement like say Shaq, or LeBron, or Denzel Washington. LeBron may not be able to spin up a Ruby on Rails instance, but he’s once again an NBA superstar known all over the planet. Much of the Black underclass is IQ 70 or thereabouts with nothing to point to in achievement other than thuggery and the violence that creates fear in the next five minutes.

    MEANING, Black underclass hatred will continue against Whites, unless there is a forcible DNA alteration of their intelligence (possible if unlikely soon) to White means or above, or some way to provide alternative and rival accomplishments to White ability to work at cognitive jobs every day is found. Which is unlikely as well. The President, Dems, the Media etc. can make things worse or better at the margins, but that is all that it will do — the fundamental cognitive difference for the underclass well below the 85 IQ mean is what drives Anti-White hatred.

    Long term I do think that forcible DNA alterations are on the horizon, but that’s thirty years out or so; unless there are sudden breakthroughs. And side effects are likely to be horrific also. Such as greatly increased cancer risk, stroke, heart disease etc.

    TL:DR version of above, I doubt say Denzel Washington or Don Cheadle hate Whites, why would they as they compete and routinely best all but the most talented White actors in scene stealing and acting accolades? For Ray-Ray in Balmore, not so much. He can’t even read, of course he hates YT.

  25. Art says:

    Obama: “They don’t speak for us – that’s not who we are,” the president said. Asked later on what caused the Dallas attacker to open fire on police officer, he added that it’s “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter.”

    Really – what’s the mystery – isn’t it totally realistic that a young man kills because he thinks his people were being wrongfully murder. He turned terrorist because the authorities were killing his tribal members. DA – it has been going on sense the beginning of human time.

    When the authorities stop summarily killing black folks – black folks will stop killing them.

    The Orlando story is the same thing – there the terrorist killed because his Afghan people were being killed by the US authorities. (The words that stated that where covered up by the left and right wing government loving media.)

    When government authorities routinely that life – there is always retribution by some young man – it is a fact of human nature.

    The government must give up killing people. That must be the goal of every citizen of every country. STOP GOVERNMENT KILLING!

    p.s. What is mind boggling, is the white boy killing the black church folks. That was wholly and completely sicko!

    • Replies: @metoo
    @Art


    p.s. What is mind boggling, is the white boy killing the black church folks. That was wholly and completely sicko!
     
    This is correct. Dylann Roof was unhinged, mentally ill, murderer. This is rare among whites.

    Micah Johnson was a murderous black demonstrating an inclination towards violence that typifies blacks. The only unusual things about Micah Johnson was that he planned his murder well in advance, and had had the training to shoot policemen from distance.
  26. Every time Obama and Hillwhorey open their mouths they bring to mind what Mary McCarthy said of the salon Marxist Lillian Hellman:

    Every word she writes is a lie—including ‘and’ and ‘the.’

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  27. @Hugh
    I thought it was a scientifically proven historical fact that Dylann Roof represented all white males, and especially those born in the American South. Who can not be troubled by the President's statement that seems to imply he was just plain fucked up?

    Replies: @Jack D, @TomSchmidt

    Obama saying That was actually kind of hopeful.

  28. iSteveFan says:

    From the Daily Mail:

    In May 2014, six months into his Afghanistan tour, he was accused of sexual harassment by a female soldier that involved him reportedly buying her underwear from Victoria’s Secret.

    I am curious if this woman was white. Maybe that, and the fact his dad left his mom and married a white woman, might have helped drive his anti-white animus.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @iSteveFan

    I would bet big money that she was white.

    , @anon
    @iSteveFan

    Interesting. I didn't know that. I would bet my bottom dollar she was white.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Almost Missouri

    , @Rob McX
    @iSteveFan

    She was Asian.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

  29. No it’s not hard to untangle the motives. The Dallas police gave us the abbreviated and sanitized version: he wanted to kill white people, especially white cops. I”m sure he said it with more gusto.

    Now why would that be? Could it have anything to do with the media’s unforgivable coverage of two police shootings? Do we know if they were or were not justified? Have we ‘untangled’ them? All we know is that there has been a rush to judgement that has fanned self righteousness reaction. Is it that surprising that someone took it further?

    Would it be all that surprising if someone from the ‘other’ side did the same? How would the media cover that and what would the president say then?

    Those that have stoked this hold a lot of responsibility as judge, jury and now executioner of the police.

  30. “Very hard to untangle” reads to me as, “It is so blatantly obvioous but contrary to our official narrative, so I am going to stick my fingers in my ears and shout ‘La la la la’ until you all move on to the next hashtag to come down the pike … yes, we really think you are that stupid.”

  31. @Brohemius
    The "shooter" said he wanted to kill white people.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    The “shooter” said he wanted to kill white people.

    Yes, and that’s a direct quote from the BLACK police chief of Dallas… who would presumably know more about the situation than Obama, traveling overseas.

    Obama’s statement is psychological projection on his part.

    We know the shooter’s motive, because he announced it. What Obama really means is that he is himself ambivalent about the shooting of the police. On some level, Obama sympathizes with the cops being shot. He can’t say that, of course, but everything in his background from Dreams of My Father to Rev. Wright’s “sermons” to the Skip Gates “we don’t know all the facts but the cops acted stupidly” incident indicates that psychologically, Obama sees himself and other blacks as victims of a white totalitarian police state.

    Obama pulled the same stunt not two weeks ago. When the Muslim shot up the gay club and announced that he was doing it for Allah and for ISIS, Obama likewise stated that the shooter’s motives were unclear. The motives were perfectly clear; Obama simply cannot bring himself to criticize Islam because attachment to it is part of his own psyche.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. X

    Actually, there's a lengthy passage in "Dreams from My Father" where Obama is scared by four black youths and realizes, in some of his most convoluted prose ever, that he's actually on the side of the cops.

    Replies: @bomag, @Dr. X

    , @interesting
    @Dr. X

    "Obama sees himself and other blacks as victims of a white totalitarian police state"


    you are 100% correct in that assessment, i have a good friend and he is convinced that the USA is ran by a white supremacy power structure out to get all black people, This guy is normally pretty sharp but he's been feed this line his whole life by the likes of the moron in the white house.

    we have a whole generation now of professional victims that feel it's okay to hate white people.

  32. @YT Wurlitzer
    Leaving aside the "that's not who we are" neurotic tic, he has a point in that we can't judge groups of people by the actions of a member. Okay. BUT in the examples he gave, his speech and the media's spin held one of them to a different standard.

    There was relentless coverage of Roof, the funerals, the commentary, the allusions to the South as racist and the removal of the Confederate flag. Lots of work for the white folk to do.

    After Orlando the president basically told us WE needed to be more tolerant and understanding toward Muslims.

    After Dallas we're told WE need to be more loving and compassionate.

    He's the guy who's supposed to be playing 11-dimension chess, so surely he can spot the odd one out.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Are you implying that black racism in Dallas and its real world consequences on whites are equal to 300+ years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregration. etc. What do you mean when you say “allusions” to the South as racist. Do you believe that the “Old South” wasn’t racist?

    • Replies: @YT Wurlitzer
    @Anonymous

    Just this once. The President's point was that groups couldn't be judged by a single person's actions. But that is exactly what was done with Roof by not staying in the here and now, but making allusions to, references to 3000 years of slavery. Happy now?

  33. Funny he mentions Roof. Obama at the time didn’t seem to have much trouble figuring out his motives

    “For too long,” Obama called out to the crowd at one point, talking about the legacy of racism. “Too long!” the crowd called back.

    Dylann Roof, the shooter, “drew on the long history of bombs and arson and shots fired at churches — not random, but as a means to control. A way to terrorize and oppress.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/obama-heads-to-charleston-to-eulogize-slain-pastor-119472#ixzz4DxHdd2jB
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    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @Hepp

    And here's more of the phoniness of the man, again in the same speech at the church:


    “Maybe we now realize the way racial bias can infect us even when we don’t realize it,” Mr. Obama said as Mr. Pinckney’s coffin, draped in a blanket of red roses, sat before him. “So that we’re guarding against not just racial slurs, but we’re also guarding against the subtle impulse to call Johnny back for a job interview, but not Jamal. So that we search our hearts when we consider laws to make it harder for some of our fellow citizens to vote.” By treating every child as important regardless of skin color and by opening up opportunities for all Americans, Mr. Obama said, “We express God’s grace.”
     
    And:

    “For too long,” Mr. Obama said, “we’ve been blind to the way past injustices continue to shape the present. Perhaps we see that now. Perhaps this tragedy causes us to ask some tough questions about how we can permit so many of our children to languish in poverty, or attend dilapidated schools, or grow up without prospects for a job or for a career.”
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/us/thousands-gather-for-funeral-of-clementa-pinckney-in-charleston.html?_r=0
    , @IA
    @Hepp

    All of you clever fellows here do know that this should be no surprise. Before the 2008 election it was known that another Obama mentor, Derrick Bell the "brain" behind Black Critical Theory, said in a yutube interview with Charlene Hunter Galt that his Harvard professor's life's work was to harass white people.

    Surely, all you savvy, HIGH IQ guys knew this and shouldn't be surprised. I give Steve high marks for courage but anyone who posts anonymously in comments ought to lie low.

    Replies: @Hepp

  34. @iSteveFan
    From the Daily Mail:

    In May 2014, six months into his Afghanistan tour, he was accused of sexual harassment by a female soldier that involved him reportedly buying her underwear from Victoria's Secret.
     
    I am curious if this woman was white. Maybe that, and the fact his dad left his mom and married a white woman, might have helped drive his anti-white animus.

    Replies: @Flip, @anon, @Rob McX

    I would bet big money that she was white.

  35. @anon
    @whorefinder

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous, @Flip, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @John Galt

    Give them Derbyshire’s column.

  36. @Dr. X
    @Brohemius


    The “shooter” said he wanted to kill white people.
     
    Yes, and that's a direct quote from the BLACK police chief of Dallas... who would presumably know more about the situation than Obama, traveling overseas.

    Obama's statement is psychological projection on his part.

    We know the shooter's motive, because he announced it. What Obama really means is that he is himself ambivalent about the shooting of the police. On some level, Obama sympathizes with the cops being shot. He can't say that, of course, but everything in his background from Dreams of My Father to Rev. Wright's "sermons" to the Skip Gates "we don't know all the facts but the cops acted stupidly" incident indicates that psychologically, Obama sees himself and other blacks as victims of a white totalitarian police state.

    Obama pulled the same stunt not two weeks ago. When the Muslim shot up the gay club and announced that he was doing it for Allah and for ISIS, Obama likewise stated that the shooter's motives were unclear. The motives were perfectly clear; Obama simply cannot bring himself to criticize Islam because attachment to it is part of his own psyche.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @interesting

    Actually, there’s a lengthy passage in “Dreams from My Father” where Obama is scared by four black youths and realizes, in some of his most convoluted prose ever, that he’s actually on the side of the cops.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, but he has cultivated a "Black" side where he muses about "my son" and doesn't hesitate to throw White people (such as his aunt) under the bus.

    , @Dr. X
    @Steve Sailer


    Actually, there’s a lengthy passage in “Dreams from My Father” where Obama is scared by four black youths and realizes, in some of his most convoluted prose ever, that he’s actually on the side of the cops.
     
    Yes, but Obama also committed serious felony drug possession and possibly felony drug sales. He even wrote about how he went to shoot heroin with a needle but claimed to have backed out and but stood by and watched his buddy shoot up. When he went to visit black men in prison last year, he made a statement to the effect of "could've been me." He said the same thing verbatim in the passage from Dreams you've cited:

    "One of them could be me. Standing there, I try to remember days when I would have been sitting in a car like that, full of inarticulate resentments and desperate to prove my place in the world. ... The blood rush of a high school brawl. The swagger that carries me into a classroom drunk or high ... That knotted, howling assertion of self ..."
     
    For every druggie that I've ever known, The Man was not someone to be loved and respected, and he stood for the opposite of everything the stoners stood for. And the stoners I knew where white -- they didn't have the racial animus radiating from Obama's book added to their cop-hate.

    The passage you're referring to

    "As I stand there, I find myself thinking that somewhere down the line both guilt and empathy speak to our own buried sense that an order of some sort is required, not the social order that exists, necessarily, but something more fundamental and more demanding; a sense, further, that one has a stake in this order, a wish that, no matter how fluid this order sometimes appears, it will not drain out of the universe."
     
    is "convoluted" because it shows that Obama was conflicted about the need for social order. But he's clear that what he wants is "not the social order that exists, necessarily." Perhaps Jeremiah Wright's social order? Presumably one NOT enforced against blacks by white cops taking orders from white people.

    I think that your inference in your previous blog on this subject that Obama realized he's "on the side of the cops" is tenuous -- unless he succeeds in radically transforming America to the point that the cops are taking orders from him and from other blacks.

    Which ironically, they are: Dallas being an almost surreal example, where the black chief's own son died in a shootout with cops after murdering two people, one of whom was an officer -- yet he's still giving orders to white cops.
  37. Obama’s comment about “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter” is clearly mendacious but that’s because he doesn’t want to say that the shooting was motivated by racial hatred against whites, for fear that that would cause more violence. At least he dropped the “If I had a son ….. ” schtick.

    DM also reports:

    However, Army Lieutenant Colonel Major Michael Waltz, a former special forces officer and White House aide, said in an interview with Reuters that a video of the attack indicated that Johnson was ‘not only trained, but well trained.’
    The clip was filmed by a person at the scene and widely circulated on social media.
    Waltz said Johnson appeared to have received ‘close-quarters battle’ training, which focuses on urban combat.

    Yes, this coincides with my assessment.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    I am wondering where he received that training. As a reservist he was a part time soldier. Plus he was a carpenter in the reserves. So once he completed basic training, he more than likely would not have gone out on exercises like infantrymen do. Further, he was deployed to Afghanistan but got sent home after 6 months for sexual harassment. This suggests that he was stationed in the rear, as expected for his trade, and probably did not engage in combat.

    From my experience in the army part time reservists were not known for their combat acumen. Yes, he had to qualify on the M4, but it's not like he then spent the rest of his time in the army honing his skills. I qualified with my rifle in basic, but as an infantryman, learned most of my job after basic/ait when I arrived at my regular unit.

    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Steve Richter, @27 year old, @Steve Sailer

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @SPMoore8

    He received training on close-quarters combat at a private training facility:

    http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2016/A-person-who-runs-a-private-self-defense-school-in-Texas-says-the-gunman-who-killed-five-police-officers-at-a-protest-march-trained-at-the-academy/id-71e58e9fbdd04e29ba1d38259a97fe21

    Replies: @Boomstick

  38. They’re still trying to untangle Omar Mateen’s motives.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @countenance

    He was a closet Westboro Baptist.

  39. @anon
    @whorefinder

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous, @Flip, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @John Galt

    It’s exactly right that you have to be around a group of people to develop an earned dislike of them.

    I didn’t go to school with any blacks, and it wasn’t until I was in the service that I was exposed to them. Oh boy did I learn what all the whooplah was about. Not all to be sure, and probably not even a majority, but with that amount of tomfoolery going on with that segment of the population it’s impossible to not take it in. Prior to this I thought all blacks were either in the dry cleaning business, irrascible, but loveable junkyard owners or were doctors who owned brownstones in Manhattan.

    I’ll tell people that I was in probably 200 fights before high school and they don’t believe me. But when you’re 5 percent in a 95 percent population it’s inevitable. However, I think I’m better for the experience because I got an early glimpse of how the real world works.

  40. @Hepp
    Funny he mentions Roof. Obama at the time didn't seem to have much trouble figuring out his motives

    “For too long,” Obama called out to the crowd at one point, talking about the legacy of racism. “Too long!” the crowd called back.

    Dylann Roof, the shooter, “drew on the long history of bombs and arson and shots fired at churches — not random, but as a means to control. A way to terrorize and oppress.”

     

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/obama-heads-to-charleston-to-eulogize-slain-pastor-119472#ixzz4DxHdd2jB
    Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

    Replies: @candid_observer, @IA

    And here’s more of the phoniness of the man, again in the same speech at the church:

    “Maybe we now realize the way racial bias can infect us even when we don’t realize it,” Mr. Obama said as Mr. Pinckney’s coffin, draped in a blanket of red roses, sat before him. “So that we’re guarding against not just racial slurs, but we’re also guarding against the subtle impulse to call Johnny back for a job interview, but not Jamal. So that we search our hearts when we consider laws to make it harder for some of our fellow citizens to vote.” By treating every child as important regardless of skin color and by opening up opportunities for all Americans, Mr. Obama said, “We express God’s grace.”

    And:

    “For too long,” Mr. Obama said, “we’ve been blind to the way past injustices continue to shape the present. Perhaps we see that now. Perhaps this tragedy causes us to ask some tough questions about how we can permit so many of our children to languish in poverty, or attend dilapidated schools, or grow up without prospects for a job or for a career.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/us/thousands-gather-for-funeral-of-clementa-pinckney-in-charleston.html?_r=0

  41. It seems that the msm narrative on both police victims is completely collapsing, as usual.

    The president is certainly screwing things up.

  42. iSteveFan says:
    @SPMoore8
    Obama's comment about “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter” is clearly mendacious but that's because he doesn't want to say that the shooting was motivated by racial hatred against whites, for fear that that would cause more violence. At least he dropped the "If I had a son ..... " schtick.

    DM also reports:

    However, Army Lieutenant Colonel Major Michael Waltz, a former special forces officer and White House aide, said in an interview with Reuters that a video of the attack indicated that Johnson was 'not only trained, but well trained.'
    The clip was filmed by a person at the scene and widely circulated on social media.
    Waltz said Johnson appeared to have received 'close-quarters battle' training, which focuses on urban combat.

     

    Yes, this coincides with my assessment.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Harry Baldwin

    I am wondering where he received that training. As a reservist he was a part time soldier. Plus he was a carpenter in the reserves. So once he completed basic training, he more than likely would not have gone out on exercises like infantrymen do. Further, he was deployed to Afghanistan but got sent home after 6 months for sexual harassment. This suggests that he was stationed in the rear, as expected for his trade, and probably did not engage in combat.

    From my experience in the army part time reservists were not known for their combat acumen. Yes, he had to qualify on the M4, but it’s not like he then spent the rest of his time in the army honing his skills. I qualified with my rifle in basic, but as an infantryman, learned most of my job after basic/ait when I arrived at my regular unit.

    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @iSteveFan

    I don't know about Army training today but I would expect given the fluidity of the modern battlefield he would have been given plenty of opportunities to practice marksmanship, live fire exercise, and urban combat before and during his deployment. In the film clip of the officer's murder, he acted quickly, aggressively, and decisively. I think that's what both the Colonel and I were reacting to when saying he was "well trained."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Auntie Analogue, @iSteveFan

    , @Steve Richter
    @iSteveFan


    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?
     
    I read the NY Times this morning and there was no breakdown of where everyone was that he killed. Did he move for spot to spot, did he shoot people from a distance? I am kind of not totally convinced he was capable of killing so many armed people.
    , @27 year old
    @iSteveFan

    The firefight video where he outflanks the cop reminded me of playing the Call of Duty videogames (online multiplayer). Maybe he trained a lot on Xbox?

    Unrelated, I don't think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he's being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you're <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dr. X

    , @Steve Sailer
    @iSteveFan

    I bet he played Medal of Honor and paintball.

    I also bet the Tsarnaev Brothers played the first version of Assassins Creed about the Hashassin Muslims from their part of the world.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @matt

  43. Philandro Calrissian. You’re welcome.

  44. @countenance
    They're still trying to untangle Omar Mateen's motives.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    He was a closet Westboro Baptist.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. X

    Actually, there's a lengthy passage in "Dreams from My Father" where Obama is scared by four black youths and realizes, in some of his most convoluted prose ever, that he's actually on the side of the cops.

    Replies: @bomag, @Dr. X

    Yes, but he has cultivated a “Black” side where he muses about “my son” and doesn’t hesitate to throw White people (such as his aunt) under the bus.

  46. @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    I am wondering where he received that training. As a reservist he was a part time soldier. Plus he was a carpenter in the reserves. So once he completed basic training, he more than likely would not have gone out on exercises like infantrymen do. Further, he was deployed to Afghanistan but got sent home after 6 months for sexual harassment. This suggests that he was stationed in the rear, as expected for his trade, and probably did not engage in combat.

    From my experience in the army part time reservists were not known for their combat acumen. Yes, he had to qualify on the M4, but it's not like he then spent the rest of his time in the army honing his skills. I qualified with my rifle in basic, but as an infantryman, learned most of my job after basic/ait when I arrived at my regular unit.

    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Steve Richter, @27 year old, @Steve Sailer

    I don’t know about Army training today but I would expect given the fluidity of the modern battlefield he would have been given plenty of opportunities to practice marksmanship, live fire exercise, and urban combat before and during his deployment. In the film clip of the officer’s murder, he acted quickly, aggressively, and decisively. I think that’s what both the Colonel and I were reacting to when saying he was “well trained.”

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    There is no doubt he looked well trained. I just don't think he got those skills in the Army reserve. People can take courses at civilian shooting ranges, often taught by former special operators. I know a guy who periodically goes to such a range where the former special operators teach him such things.

    But hey, the army is the largest armed force and I haven't been in for a while. So maybe they finally are teaching support guys more than just how to load and aim an M16.

    , @Auntie Analogue
    @SPMoore8

    My dear SPMoore8 and iSteveFan, did you miss that in Micah Johnson's apartment the police found a tactical manual, other small arms, and bomb-making materials, and that neighbors reported that in his backyard Johnson had erected an obstacle course that they saw him run regularly while under arms?

    During his army hitch Johnson may not have had tactical training, yet he may have followed the book and taught himself - and God only knows how many tactical videos and videogames he may have watched and emulated. If you watched the video of Johnson using the columns of the parking garage as cover, as deception devices, and as support for his rifle, it sure looks to me that, in one or another way, he'd practiced and acquired tactical acumen sufficient to have inflicted all of the Dallas police officer casualties.

    My dear Steve Richter, you wrote:


    "I am kind of not totally convinced he was capable of killing so many armed people."
     
    Then we must await what we may rightly expect to be police ballistics lab reports of the rifling marks of the rounds that struck officers and whether, or not, they match the rifling in Johnson's weapon. If rounds turn up to show different rifling marks, only then would your suspicion have proven justified.

    On the post topic:

    When Obama says, "Very Hard to Untangle Motives of This Shooter," it's very easy to untangle Obama's motives for saying, "Very Hard to Untangle Motives of This Shooter."

    When Obama comes right out and blames White racism and slavery for Dylann Roof's shooting, it's just as easy to untangle Obama's motives.

    The sad and frightful aspect of all this is that so many people are gullible enough to believe anything Obama says, and to believe anything that Hillwhorey and BLM and all the so-called "anti-racists" and "anti-fascists" declaim.
    , @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    One more thing, I agree this guy looked well trained. And if this guy with his background of being a carpenter in the Army Reserve could do this, God help us if any of the tens of thousands of former Army or Marine infantryman with actual combat experience ever blow a fuse. I imagine a few thousand of them could effect a coup.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  47. @Anonymous
    @YT Wurlitzer

    Are you implying that black racism in Dallas and its real world consequences on whites are equal to 300+ years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregration. etc. What do you mean when you say "allusions" to the South as racist. Do you believe that the "Old South" wasn't racist?

    Replies: @YT Wurlitzer

    Just this once. The President’s point was that groups couldn’t be judged by a single person’s actions. But that is exactly what was done with Roof by not staying in the here and now, but making allusions to, references to 3000 years of slavery. Happy now?

  48. the authorities could have released info on the MN and LA fatalities. That is assume the police made necessary decisions and as info develops release to the public. The purpose being to diffuse the BLM narrative that was motivating this killer.

  49. @Marty
    Less than an hour ago in SF, I noticed two brothas in a Smartcar in my rearview mirror. They looked kind of sketchy, like retired Panthers from the early '70s. I said to myself, "I wonder if they're exempted from vehicle registration? Then they passed me, and shonuff, no sticker. Sure is good to know those Asian cops are doing their bit to foster racial understanding.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @David In TN

    Two brothers in a smart car? Have to be thieves. No self-respecting black man is going to own a smart car. Those are strictly for older, single white women. With no lives.

  50. @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    I am wondering where he received that training. As a reservist he was a part time soldier. Plus he was a carpenter in the reserves. So once he completed basic training, he more than likely would not have gone out on exercises like infantrymen do. Further, he was deployed to Afghanistan but got sent home after 6 months for sexual harassment. This suggests that he was stationed in the rear, as expected for his trade, and probably did not engage in combat.

    From my experience in the army part time reservists were not known for their combat acumen. Yes, he had to qualify on the M4, but it's not like he then spent the rest of his time in the army honing his skills. I qualified with my rifle in basic, but as an infantryman, learned most of my job after basic/ait when I arrived at my regular unit.

    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Steve Richter, @27 year old, @Steve Sailer

    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?

    I read the NY Times this morning and there was no breakdown of where everyone was that he killed. Did he move for spot to spot, did he shoot people from a distance? I am kind of not totally convinced he was capable of killing so many armed people.

  51. @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    I am wondering where he received that training. As a reservist he was a part time soldier. Plus he was a carpenter in the reserves. So once he completed basic training, he more than likely would not have gone out on exercises like infantrymen do. Further, he was deployed to Afghanistan but got sent home after 6 months for sexual harassment. This suggests that he was stationed in the rear, as expected for his trade, and probably did not engage in combat.

    From my experience in the army part time reservists were not known for their combat acumen. Yes, he had to qualify on the M4, but it's not like he then spent the rest of his time in the army honing his skills. I qualified with my rifle in basic, but as an infantryman, learned most of my job after basic/ait when I arrived at my regular unit.

    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Steve Richter, @27 year old, @Steve Sailer

    The firefight video where he outflanks the cop reminded me of playing the Call of Duty videogames (online multiplayer). Maybe he trained a lot on Xbox?

    Unrelated, I don’t think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he’s being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you’re <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @27 year old

    Also, is it easy to immediately figure out from sound which direction shots are coming from in high-rise canyons of downtown Dallas? Echoes and other complex sound effects ... Wasn't that a problem with 11/22/63?

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Dr. X
    @27 year old


    Unrelated, I don’t think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he’s being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you’re <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.
     
    You're not wrong. The AR/M-16 platform was adopted by the Army because it's easy to shoot and requires a LOT less marksmanship skill than it's .30 cal predecessors. It'll shoot flat onto a man-sized target out to 300 yards with a center-mass hold. The Army doesn't even teach true "marksmanship" skills anymore except to designated marksmen, snipers, special ops, etc.

    I doubt very much that the Dallas shooter was more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren't trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Harry Baldwin

  52. @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    I am wondering where he received that training. As a reservist he was a part time soldier. Plus he was a carpenter in the reserves. So once he completed basic training, he more than likely would not have gone out on exercises like infantrymen do. Further, he was deployed to Afghanistan but got sent home after 6 months for sexual harassment. This suggests that he was stationed in the rear, as expected for his trade, and probably did not engage in combat.

    From my experience in the army part time reservists were not known for their combat acumen. Yes, he had to qualify on the M4, but it's not like he then spent the rest of his time in the army honing his skills. I qualified with my rifle in basic, but as an infantryman, learned most of my job after basic/ait when I arrived at my regular unit.

    So I am curious if he actually received such training in the army, which would impress me. Or did he learn it at some shooting range?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Steve Richter, @27 year old, @Steve Sailer

    I bet he played Medal of Honor and paintball.

    I also bet the Tsarnaev Brothers played the first version of Assassins Creed about the Hashassin Muslims from their part of the world.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Steve Sailer

    I don't think paintball is that far off the mark. You do have other guys shooting projectiles at you and you have to develop the ability to take cover and return fire. It probably is a good simulation.

    It is probably as good or better than the MILES laser system we used in the Army. If someone pointed his weapon at you and shot and his laser hit one of your detectors, your kit would sound a beeping noise indicating you were dead. But you got no sensation of projectiles coming at you like you would in paintball.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Don Bob, @Lurker

    , @matt
    @Steve Sailer

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev (who was the driving force behind the bombings) was very angry with his former friend for converting to (presumably Twelver) Shiism, so I doubt that he was all that enamored of an Ismaili Shia (who are even less similar to Sunnism than the Twelvers are) group from the 12th to 13th centuries.

    It's also possible that Tsarnaev didn't know anything about Islam or Islamic history. He wouldn't be the first.

    P.S. They weren't called the "Hashassin Muslims".

  53. @27 year old
    @iSteveFan

    The firefight video where he outflanks the cop reminded me of playing the Call of Duty videogames (online multiplayer). Maybe he trained a lot on Xbox?

    Unrelated, I don't think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he's being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you're <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dr. X

    Also, is it easy to immediately figure out from sound which direction shots are coming from in high-rise canyons of downtown Dallas? Echoes and other complex sound effects … Wasn’t that a problem with 11/22/63?

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Steve Sailer

    No it is not easy to figure out where shots are coming from. That's why in movies, like Full Metal Jacket, the sniper in the building is so hard to find. Unfortunately someone usually has to get hit so that the others might see a muzzle flash.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Steve Sailer

    I know in DC they have a directional shot finder called ShotSpotter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfire_locator). Not sure where else it is deployed or what its resolution is.

  54. @anon
    @whorefinder

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous, @Flip, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @John Galt

    Often, the most deluded ones are the ones who have spent a lot of time around blacks. My sister comes to mind.

    Judging from your spelling, I’m not surprised your nephews haven’t spent a lot of time around masses of blacks. No other Anglophone country can remotely compare to the US regarding blacks besides South Africa which I’m assuming you’re not from.

    Red pilling takes a long time indeed. It took me years.

  55. IA says:

    Often, the most deluded ones are the ones who have spent a lot of time around blacks. My sister comes to mind.

    I’ve known intelligent whites raised in DC who were deluded but that was 30 years ago. How stupid is your sister, and/or how many daddy problems does she have?

  56. iSteveFan says:
    @SPMoore8
    @iSteveFan

    I don't know about Army training today but I would expect given the fluidity of the modern battlefield he would have been given plenty of opportunities to practice marksmanship, live fire exercise, and urban combat before and during his deployment. In the film clip of the officer's murder, he acted quickly, aggressively, and decisively. I think that's what both the Colonel and I were reacting to when saying he was "well trained."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Auntie Analogue, @iSteveFan

    There is no doubt he looked well trained. I just don’t think he got those skills in the Army reserve. People can take courses at civilian shooting ranges, often taught by former special operators. I know a guy who periodically goes to such a range where the former special operators teach him such things.

    But hey, the army is the largest armed force and I haven’t been in for a while. So maybe they finally are teaching support guys more than just how to load and aim an M16.

  57. @Steve Sailer
    @27 year old

    Also, is it easy to immediately figure out from sound which direction shots are coming from in high-rise canyons of downtown Dallas? Echoes and other complex sound effects ... Wasn't that a problem with 11/22/63?

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Jim Don Bob

    No it is not easy to figure out where shots are coming from. That’s why in movies, like Full Metal Jacket, the sniper in the building is so hard to find. Unfortunately someone usually has to get hit so that the others might see a muzzle flash.

  58. @SPMoore8
    @iSteveFan

    I don't know about Army training today but I would expect given the fluidity of the modern battlefield he would have been given plenty of opportunities to practice marksmanship, live fire exercise, and urban combat before and during his deployment. In the film clip of the officer's murder, he acted quickly, aggressively, and decisively. I think that's what both the Colonel and I were reacting to when saying he was "well trained."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Auntie Analogue, @iSteveFan

    My dear SPMoore8 and iSteveFan, did you miss that in Micah Johnson’s apartment the police found a tactical manual, other small arms, and bomb-making materials, and that neighbors reported that in his backyard Johnson had erected an obstacle course that they saw him run regularly while under arms?

    During his army hitch Johnson may not have had tactical training, yet he may have followed the book and taught himself – and God only knows how many tactical videos and videogames he may have watched and emulated. If you watched the video of Johnson using the columns of the parking garage as cover, as deception devices, and as support for his rifle, it sure looks to me that, in one or another way, he’d practiced and acquired tactical acumen sufficient to have inflicted all of the Dallas police officer casualties.

    My dear Steve Richter, you wrote:

    “I am kind of not totally convinced he was capable of killing so many armed people.”

    Then we must await what we may rightly expect to be police ballistics lab reports of the rifling marks of the rounds that struck officers and whether, or not, they match the rifling in Johnson’s weapon. If rounds turn up to show different rifling marks, only then would your suspicion have proven justified.

    On the post topic:

    When Obama says, “Very Hard to Untangle Motives of This Shooter,” it’s very easy to untangle Obama’s motives for saying, “Very Hard to Untangle Motives of This Shooter.”

    When Obama comes right out and blames White racism and slavery for Dylann Roof’s shooting, it’s just as easy to untangle Obama’s motives.

    The sad and frightful aspect of all this is that so many people are gullible enough to believe anything Obama says, and to believe anything that Hillwhorey and BLM and all the so-called “anti-racists” and “anti-fascists” declaim.

  59. IA says:
    @Hepp
    Funny he mentions Roof. Obama at the time didn't seem to have much trouble figuring out his motives

    “For too long,” Obama called out to the crowd at one point, talking about the legacy of racism. “Too long!” the crowd called back.

    Dylann Roof, the shooter, “drew on the long history of bombs and arson and shots fired at churches — not random, but as a means to control. A way to terrorize and oppress.”

     

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/obama-heads-to-charleston-to-eulogize-slain-pastor-119472#ixzz4DxHdd2jB
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    Replies: @candid_observer, @IA

    All of you clever fellows here do know that this should be no surprise. Before the 2008 election it was known that another Obama mentor, Derrick Bell the “brain” behind Black Critical Theory, said in a yutube interview with Charlene Hunter Galt that his Harvard professor’s life’s work was to harass white people.

    Surely, all you savvy, HIGH IQ guys knew this and shouldn’t be surprised. I give Steve high marks for courage but anyone who posts anonymously in comments ought to lie low.

    • Replies: @Hepp
    @IA

    I don't know why you think we're surprised, I remember being in the ISteve world back then, and we knew what Obama was. He was dissecting Dreams of My Father at the time.

  60. iSteveFan says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @iSteveFan

    I bet he played Medal of Honor and paintball.

    I also bet the Tsarnaev Brothers played the first version of Assassins Creed about the Hashassin Muslims from their part of the world.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @matt

    I don’t think paintball is that far off the mark. You do have other guys shooting projectiles at you and you have to develop the ability to take cover and return fire. It probably is a good simulation.

    It is probably as good or better than the MILES laser system we used in the Army. If someone pointed his weapon at you and shot and his laser hit one of your detectors, your kit would sound a beeping noise indicating you were dead. But you got no sensation of projectiles coming at you like you would in paintball.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @iSteveFan

    In the 1990s, top paintball teams included Lebanese guys who played paintball to remind them of all the good times they'd enjoyed in Beirut, 1975-1990.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @iSteveFan

    I played paintball a bit. I was quite nervous crawling through the bush and than had the "Oh shit" feeling when I got hit. Not saying that this is like combat, but you can practice tactics.

    Just like the jihadis who wanted know in 2000 how to take off but did not care about landing. The vaunted FBI ignored this report from a WOMAN agent in MN. BTW, have they found Omar Mateen's wife yet?

    , @Lurker
    @iSteveFan

    I remember discussing this years ago and an ex-army guy pointed out one aspect of paintball vs real shooting to me.

    In paintball, cover is protection. A sheet of plywood is cover but in paintball its also 100% protection from being hit. Against real bullets - it's none at all. So paintball experience might lead one to be more reckless in the face of hostile fire.

    This person was actually making the reverse point to me - that in some respects, military types playing paintball for the first time might fare less well against experienced players because they would not treat cover as protection and be more timid players.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lurker

  61. iSteveFan says:
    @SPMoore8
    @iSteveFan

    I don't know about Army training today but I would expect given the fluidity of the modern battlefield he would have been given plenty of opportunities to practice marksmanship, live fire exercise, and urban combat before and during his deployment. In the film clip of the officer's murder, he acted quickly, aggressively, and decisively. I think that's what both the Colonel and I were reacting to when saying he was "well trained."

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Auntie Analogue, @iSteveFan

    One more thing, I agree this guy looked well trained. And if this guy with his background of being a carpenter in the Army Reserve could do this, God help us if any of the tens of thousands of former Army or Marine infantryman with actual combat experience ever blow a fuse. I imagine a few thousand of them could effect a coup.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @iSteveFan

    I was trained as a Marine infantryman although I was never in combat but one thing you get in the service depending on the stress of your training and/or your mission is a high alertness level that can easily stick to you. I can remember watching people on the street later in my enlistment and thinking that they looked like cows in the way they were handling themselves, whereas virtually every sailor or Marine I knew conducted themselves in public like they were going to be jumped any minute. Of course today I suppose civilians would look like cows with smart phones.

    Nevertheless with your Army training I'm sure you know what I am talking about and I would suggest that you hold on to that alertness mode when you are outside or in public. It's just a good idea.

    Some ex-infantry with weapons could cause a lot of damage in the civilian world, no question. But they wouldn't have very good leadership, they wouldn't have secure supplies, and there's plenty of veterans who would be eyeballing them.

  62. @iSteveFan
    @Steve Sailer

    I don't think paintball is that far off the mark. You do have other guys shooting projectiles at you and you have to develop the ability to take cover and return fire. It probably is a good simulation.

    It is probably as good or better than the MILES laser system we used in the Army. If someone pointed his weapon at you and shot and his laser hit one of your detectors, your kit would sound a beeping noise indicating you were dead. But you got no sensation of projectiles coming at you like you would in paintball.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Don Bob, @Lurker

    In the 1990s, top paintball teams included Lebanese guys who played paintball to remind them of all the good times they’d enjoyed in Beirut, 1975-1990.

  63. @IA
    @Hepp

    All of you clever fellows here do know that this should be no surprise. Before the 2008 election it was known that another Obama mentor, Derrick Bell the "brain" behind Black Critical Theory, said in a yutube interview with Charlene Hunter Galt that his Harvard professor's life's work was to harass white people.

    Surely, all you savvy, HIGH IQ guys knew this and shouldn't be surprised. I give Steve high marks for courage but anyone who posts anonymously in comments ought to lie low.

    Replies: @Hepp

    I don’t know why you think we’re surprised, I remember being in the ISteve world back then, and we knew what Obama was. He was dissecting Dreams of My Father at the time.

  64. @Steve Sailer
    @Dr. X

    Actually, there's a lengthy passage in "Dreams from My Father" where Obama is scared by four black youths and realizes, in some of his most convoluted prose ever, that he's actually on the side of the cops.

    Replies: @bomag, @Dr. X

    Actually, there’s a lengthy passage in “Dreams from My Father” where Obama is scared by four black youths and realizes, in some of his most convoluted prose ever, that he’s actually on the side of the cops.

    Yes, but Obama also committed serious felony drug possession and possibly felony drug sales. He even wrote about how he went to shoot heroin with a needle but claimed to have backed out and but stood by and watched his buddy shoot up. When he went to visit black men in prison last year, he made a statement to the effect of “could’ve been me.” He said the same thing verbatim in the passage from Dreams you’ve cited:

    “One of them could be me. Standing there, I try to remember days when I would have been sitting in a car like that, full of inarticulate resentments and desperate to prove my place in the world. … The blood rush of a high school brawl. The swagger that carries me into a classroom drunk or high … That knotted, howling assertion of self …”

    For every druggie that I’ve ever known, The Man was not someone to be loved and respected, and he stood for the opposite of everything the stoners stood for. And the stoners I knew where white — they didn’t have the racial animus radiating from Obama’s book added to their cop-hate.

    The passage you’re referring to

    “As I stand there, I find myself thinking that somewhere down the line both guilt and empathy speak to our own buried sense that an order of some sort is required, not the social order that exists, necessarily, but something more fundamental and more demanding; a sense, further, that one has a stake in this order, a wish that, no matter how fluid this order sometimes appears, it will not drain out of the universe.”

    is “convoluted” because it shows that Obama was conflicted about the need for social order. But he’s clear that what he wants is “not the social order that exists, necessarily.” Perhaps Jeremiah Wright’s social order? Presumably one NOT enforced against blacks by white cops taking orders from white people.

    I think that your inference in your previous blog on this subject that Obama realized he’s “on the side of the cops” is tenuous — unless he succeeds in radically transforming America to the point that the cops are taking orders from him and from other blacks.

    Which ironically, they are: Dallas being an almost surreal example, where the black chief’s own son died in a shootout with cops after murdering two people, one of whom was an officer — yet he’s still giving orders to white cops.

  65. @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    One more thing, I agree this guy looked well trained. And if this guy with his background of being a carpenter in the Army Reserve could do this, God help us if any of the tens of thousands of former Army or Marine infantryman with actual combat experience ever blow a fuse. I imagine a few thousand of them could effect a coup.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    I was trained as a Marine infantryman although I was never in combat but one thing you get in the service depending on the stress of your training and/or your mission is a high alertness level that can easily stick to you. I can remember watching people on the street later in my enlistment and thinking that they looked like cows in the way they were handling themselves, whereas virtually every sailor or Marine I knew conducted themselves in public like they were going to be jumped any minute. Of course today I suppose civilians would look like cows with smart phones.

    Nevertheless with your Army training I’m sure you know what I am talking about and I would suggest that you hold on to that alertness mode when you are outside or in public. It’s just a good idea.

    Some ex-infantry with weapons could cause a lot of damage in the civilian world, no question. But they wouldn’t have very good leadership, they wouldn’t have secure supplies, and there’s plenty of veterans who would be eyeballing them.

  66. matt says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @iSteveFan

    I bet he played Medal of Honor and paintball.

    I also bet the Tsarnaev Brothers played the first version of Assassins Creed about the Hashassin Muslims from their part of the world.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @matt

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev (who was the driving force behind the bombings) was very angry with his former friend for converting to (presumably Twelver) Shiism, so I doubt that he was all that enamored of an Ismaili Shia (who are even less similar to Sunnism than the Twelvers are) group from the 12th to 13th centuries.

    It’s also possible that Tsarnaev didn’t know anything about Islam or Islamic history. He wouldn’t be the first.

    P.S. They weren’t called the “Hashassin Muslims”.

  67. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    How about a little more moderation and restraint on the part of the powerful?

    The Sacred and Holy War Against White Racism is indeed a war….and wars are not about moderation or restraint or thoughtfulness or reflection or careful consideration…they are vicious and do not end easily…so it will be very very hard for those at the top of society stop waging war on whites even a little bit…the propaganda war will continue to intensify until…well, until a real war with bullets and blood begins…we are likely headed for another civil war…but this time there will be no mason dixon line…the only thing that can stop this war is advances in cheap genetic engineering that will allow parents to choose the race of a child….once that happens that will take away one powerful weapon from the elite

  68. @27 year old
    @iSteveFan

    The firefight video where he outflanks the cop reminded me of playing the Call of Duty videogames (online multiplayer). Maybe he trained a lot on Xbox?

    Unrelated, I don't think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he's being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you're <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Dr. X

    Unrelated, I don’t think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he’s being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you’re <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.

    You’re not wrong. The AR/M-16 platform was adopted by the Army because it’s easy to shoot and requires a LOT less marksmanship skill than it’s .30 cal predecessors. It’ll shoot flat onto a man-sized target out to 300 yards with a center-mass hold. The Army doesn’t even teach true “marksmanship” skills anymore except to designated marksmen, snipers, special ops, etc.

    I doubt very much that the Dallas shooter was more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren’t trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Dr. X


    more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren’t trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started
     
    I was watching a squad of ROTC Marines on their run through campus. Running in a group as they did is great physical training as well as good for unit bonding and the like.

    But along the lines of "train like you fight . . . fight like you were trained", shouldn't those men, as part of their training, conduct that run with much larger spacing between each individual Marine? That they should run through the quadrangle in lines along the two bordering sidewalks, with each man spaced at least 10 yards apart, or whatever the blast radius of those diabolical weapons used by the enemy?

    I suppose keeping such a loose formation on that run takes much more skill than staying in that pack those Marines were in, but isn't that why we are paying the tuition and college expenses of those men, that they would acquire and hone skills?

    The only reason to have soldiers or Marines maneuvering and fighting in close formation is if they were armed with muzzle-loading black-powder rifles and bayonets so they can resist charges from the enemy on horseback. With modern infantry arms, these men can be the required distance apart in relation to the enemy's area weapon while at the same time provide each other with fire cover and mutual support?

    The police standing watch on a protest had an excuse. They had no expectation of this kind of attack, and maybe you need to police bunched up to effect crowd control? But what is the excuse of the military not to instill and drill into their officers to space everybody out?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dr. X

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Dr. X

    From what I'm reading on the web, Johnson didn't use an AR-15 (civilian semi-auto version of the M16) but an SKS a semiautomatic Russian rifle designed in 1945 and replaced in the 1950s by the AK-47. It is imported into the US as surplus. With its fixed ten-round magazine and no pistol grip, it is legal in California with no modification.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKS

    Replies: @Dr. X

  69. @Steve Sailer
    @27 year old

    Also, is it easy to immediately figure out from sound which direction shots are coming from in high-rise canyons of downtown Dallas? Echoes and other complex sound effects ... Wasn't that a problem with 11/22/63?

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Jim Don Bob

    I know in DC they have a directional shot finder called ShotSpotter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfire_locator). Not sure where else it is deployed or what its resolution is.

  70. @iSteveFan
    @Steve Sailer

    I don't think paintball is that far off the mark. You do have other guys shooting projectiles at you and you have to develop the ability to take cover and return fire. It probably is a good simulation.

    It is probably as good or better than the MILES laser system we used in the Army. If someone pointed his weapon at you and shot and his laser hit one of your detectors, your kit would sound a beeping noise indicating you were dead. But you got no sensation of projectiles coming at you like you would in paintball.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Don Bob, @Lurker

    I played paintball a bit. I was quite nervous crawling through the bush and than had the “Oh shit” feeling when I got hit. Not saying that this is like combat, but you can practice tactics.

    Just like the jihadis who wanted know in 2000 how to take off but did not care about landing. The vaunted FBI ignored this report from a WOMAN agent in MN. BTW, have they found Omar Mateen’s wife yet?

  71. Sounds like he’s backpedaling, due to the fact that recent events have put the lie to his narrative. I mean, he’s a politician. What do you expect him to say, “We were wrong about everything”?

  72. @Zach
    It would be interesting to know what the late shooter thought of Obama.

    Replies: @David In TN

    Probably a big admirer.

  73. @Marty
    Less than an hour ago in SF, I noticed two brothas in a Smartcar in my rearview mirror. They looked kind of sketchy, like retired Panthers from the early '70s. I said to myself, "I wonder if they're exempted from vehicle registration? Then they passed me, and shonuff, no sticker. Sure is good to know those Asian cops are doing their bit to foster racial understanding.

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @David In TN

    “They looked kind of sketchy, like retired Panthers from the early 70’s.”

    They might have been NOI members from Temple No. 26 from the same time period.

  74. or that RINO nitwit Paul Ryan.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    that RINO nitwit Paul Ryan.

    He was kind of a Mitt-wit, wasn't he?

    Anyway, since the whole GOP has gone cuckservative, it's those of us registered Republicans who are disgusted with it who are the actual RINOS; e.g., Trump.

  75. @Jokah Macpherson
    @Anonymous

    "That's not who we are" is his response to everything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Trumpenproleteriat

    and that RINO nitwit Paul Ryan.

  76. @iSteveFan
    @Steve Sailer

    I don't think paintball is that far off the mark. You do have other guys shooting projectiles at you and you have to develop the ability to take cover and return fire. It probably is a good simulation.

    It is probably as good or better than the MILES laser system we used in the Army. If someone pointed his weapon at you and shot and his laser hit one of your detectors, your kit would sound a beeping noise indicating you were dead. But you got no sensation of projectiles coming at you like you would in paintball.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Don Bob, @Lurker

    I remember discussing this years ago and an ex-army guy pointed out one aspect of paintball vs real shooting to me.

    In paintball, cover is protection. A sheet of plywood is cover but in paintball its also 100% protection from being hit. Against real bullets – it’s none at all. So paintball experience might lead one to be more reckless in the face of hostile fire.

    This person was actually making the reverse point to me – that in some respects, military types playing paintball for the first time might fare less well against experienced players because they would not treat cover as protection and be more timid players.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Lurker


    In paintball, cover is protection. A sheet of plywood is cover but in paintball its also 100% protection from being hit.
     
    That's a good point. It's the distinction between cover and concealment. In paintball all concealment is cover. But with real bullets all concealment isn't necessarily cover.
    , @Lurker
    @Lurker

    Concealment - that's the word! Cover is ambiguous.

    I agree with your original point, paintball probably has some useful lessons. Don't shoot unless you've got a good chance of hitting someone (or you want to suppress them) otherwise all you're doing is giving away your own position and wasting ammo. I found, playing in the woods in summer especially, that if someone stops moving and shooting it's hard to keep track of their exact position. If I sat tight and did nothing the opposition would often forget about me quite quickly and get careless, I could often pop up and shoot one to their total surprise.

    Whether this is at all applicable to real-world tactics I don't know. It seems like it might be but I don't want to sound like some armchair warrior.

  77. @Dr. X
    @27 year old


    Unrelated, I don’t think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he’s being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you’re <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.
     
    You're not wrong. The AR/M-16 platform was adopted by the Army because it's easy to shoot and requires a LOT less marksmanship skill than it's .30 cal predecessors. It'll shoot flat onto a man-sized target out to 300 yards with a center-mass hold. The Army doesn't even teach true "marksmanship" skills anymore except to designated marksmen, snipers, special ops, etc.

    I doubt very much that the Dallas shooter was more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren't trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Harry Baldwin

    more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren’t trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started

    I was watching a squad of ROTC Marines on their run through campus. Running in a group as they did is great physical training as well as good for unit bonding and the like.

    But along the lines of “train like you fight . . . fight like you were trained”, shouldn’t those men, as part of their training, conduct that run with much larger spacing between each individual Marine? That they should run through the quadrangle in lines along the two bordering sidewalks, with each man spaced at least 10 yards apart, or whatever the blast radius of those diabolical weapons used by the enemy?

    I suppose keeping such a loose formation on that run takes much more skill than staying in that pack those Marines were in, but isn’t that why we are paying the tuition and college expenses of those men, that they would acquire and hone skills?

    The only reason to have soldiers or Marines maneuvering and fighting in close formation is if they were armed with muzzle-loading black-powder rifles and bayonets so they can resist charges from the enemy on horseback. With modern infantry arms, these men can be the required distance apart in relation to the enemy’s area weapon while at the same time provide each other with fire cover and mutual support?

    The police standing watch on a protest had an excuse. They had no expectation of this kind of attack, and maybe you need to police bunched up to effect crowd control? But what is the excuse of the military not to instill and drill into their officers to space everybody out?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Inquiring Mind

    Tradition is a big part of military culture and I don't think you'd improve any branch of the armed forces by eliminating drill and ceremony, although I think Army doctrine is or was that you'd eliminate D&C or at least minimize it, and reduce basic from 8 to 6 weeks, if you really needed to train a lot of troops very quickly. The purpose of PT is to burn off fat, build muscle, and build aerobic/cardiovascular capacity and endurance; the benefit of combining it with tactical training is questionable IMHO.

    , @Dr. X
    @Inquiring Mind

    The short answer to the question is that not all training is combat training. PT, formations, drill, etc. are for different purposes than infantry training.

  78. @Lurker
    @iSteveFan

    I remember discussing this years ago and an ex-army guy pointed out one aspect of paintball vs real shooting to me.

    In paintball, cover is protection. A sheet of plywood is cover but in paintball its also 100% protection from being hit. Against real bullets - it's none at all. So paintball experience might lead one to be more reckless in the face of hostile fire.

    This person was actually making the reverse point to me - that in some respects, military types playing paintball for the first time might fare less well against experienced players because they would not treat cover as protection and be more timid players.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lurker

    In paintball, cover is protection. A sheet of plywood is cover but in paintball its also 100% protection from being hit.

    That’s a good point. It’s the distinction between cover and concealment. In paintball all concealment is cover. But with real bullets all concealment isn’t necessarily cover.

  79. @Art

    Obama: “They don’t speak for us – that’s not who we are,” the president said. Asked later on what caused the Dallas attacker to open fire on police officer, he added that it’s “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter.”
     
    Really – what’s the mystery – isn’t it totally realistic that a young man kills because he thinks his people were being wrongfully murder. He turned terrorist because the authorities were killing his tribal members. DA - it has been going on sense the beginning of human time.

    When the authorities stop summarily killing black folks – black folks will stop killing them.

    The Orlando story is the same thing – there the terrorist killed because his Afghan people were being killed by the US authorities. (The words that stated that where covered up by the left and right wing government loving media.)

    When government authorities routinely that life – there is always retribution by some young man – it is a fact of human nature.


    The government must give up killing people. That must be the goal of every citizen of every country. STOP GOVERNMENT KILLING!

    p.s. What is mind boggling, is the white boy killing the black church folks. That was wholly and completely sicko!

    Replies: @metoo

    p.s. What is mind boggling, is the white boy killing the black church folks. That was wholly and completely sicko!

    This is correct. Dylann Roof was unhinged, mentally ill, murderer. This is rare among whites.

    Micah Johnson was a murderous black demonstrating an inclination towards violence that typifies blacks. The only unusual things about Micah Johnson was that he planned his murder well in advance, and had had the training to shoot policemen from distance.

  80. Dylan Roof shooting: Do generalize the actions of one lone shooter, shame the larger group of people involved, launch nation wide campaign to shame and remove Confederate symbols.

    Micah Johnson shooting: Don’t generalize the actions of one lone shooter, Motives are unclear, nothing can badly reflect on various black power movements praised by the shooter.

    The hypocrisy is completely obvious. A lot of Americans are ideologically wired to not see this hypocrisy, which is depressing.

  81. @Anonymous
    Disturbing to hear Obama say Micah Johnson was a troubled, demented individual that psychologists should have examined. I thought the prevailing theory was that only white mass shooters are given the luxury of mental illness as an excuse?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    In the case of almost every Presidential assassin or school shooter, you have a combination of a mentally disturbed individual who has developed a sense of grievance over some topic of current interest and who has a firearm or access to some kind of explosive. Mostly they are loners, or at least not part of any coherent movement. Mostly they are not romantically or reproductively successful or parents, or successful in careers.

    Timothy McVeigh was a good example–a disturbed Gulf War veteran who developed delusional ideas about overthrowing the federal government and managed to take one or two friends along with him.

    Micah Johnson is just another American failure whose name will live in infamy.

  82. @iSteveFan
    From the Daily Mail:

    In May 2014, six months into his Afghanistan tour, he was accused of sexual harassment by a female soldier that involved him reportedly buying her underwear from Victoria's Secret.
     
    I am curious if this woman was white. Maybe that, and the fact his dad left his mom and married a white woman, might have helped drive his anti-white animus.

    Replies: @Flip, @anon, @Rob McX

    Interesting. I didn’t know that. I would bet my bottom dollar she was white.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @anon

    Asian.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @anon

    Oh darn, I should have taken up your bottom-dollar bet before I said that ...

  83. @SPMoore8
    Obama's comment about “very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter” is clearly mendacious but that's because he doesn't want to say that the shooting was motivated by racial hatred against whites, for fear that that would cause more violence. At least he dropped the "If I had a son ..... " schtick.

    DM also reports:

    However, Army Lieutenant Colonel Major Michael Waltz, a former special forces officer and White House aide, said in an interview with Reuters that a video of the attack indicated that Johnson was 'not only trained, but well trained.'
    The clip was filmed by a person at the scene and widely circulated on social media.
    Waltz said Johnson appeared to have received 'close-quarters battle' training, which focuses on urban combat.

     

    Yes, this coincides with my assessment.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Harry Baldwin

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @Harry Baldwin

    Eh. What's described is pretty basic stuff, mostly weapons manipulation. They do describe scenario based training and some simulated force-on-force training using laser scoring, which is better than most people get. The shooter in the videos I've seen was moving fast and decisively to finish the other guy, and didn't let himself be immobilized in cover when shot at. That behavior is often not taught in self defense classes, and it takes more than two hours of practice once a month to develop the skills.

  84. @Dr. X
    @27 year old


    Unrelated, I don’t think it takes particularly high skill or extensive training to kill a guy who has no idea he’s being targeted, when you have an AR+optic, you’re <100 yards away, you're in an elevated and covered position, and you're stabilizing the weapon. I could be wrong.
     
    You're not wrong. The AR/M-16 platform was adopted by the Army because it's easy to shoot and requires a LOT less marksmanship skill than it's .30 cal predecessors. It'll shoot flat onto a man-sized target out to 300 yards with a center-mass hold. The Army doesn't even teach true "marksmanship" skills anymore except to designated marksmen, snipers, special ops, etc.

    I doubt very much that the Dallas shooter was more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren't trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Harry Baldwin

    From what I’m reading on the web, Johnson didn’t use an AR-15 (civilian semi-auto version of the M16) but an SKS a semiautomatic Russian rifle designed in 1945 and replaced in the 1950s by the AK-47. It is imported into the US as surplus. With its fixed ten-round magazine and no pistol grip, it is legal in California with no modification.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKS

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Harry Baldwin


    From what I’m reading on the web, Johnson didn’t use an AR-15 (civilian semi-auto version of the M16) but an SKS
     
    I had heard "AR" but that was mere hearsay. You may be correct. I haven't seen any official identification of the weapon as of yet. If it was an SKS the shooter was definitely well inside of 200 yards -- they aren't very accurate. I had a beautiful one I sold 20 years ago because it wouldn't hold a group tighter than about 6-8" at 100 yards.
  85. Art says:

    The only unusual things about Micah Johnson was that he planned his murder well in advance, and had had the training to shoot policemen from distance.

    Gee – you are breaking the rules – giving some intellectual credit to a black man.

    Although one wonders how much planing he did? He went terrorist more or less 24 hours after the last cop killing of the black man.

    Clearly Micah did not like his people being murdered by white authorities.

    Maybe this will all stop, if white authorities quit killing blacks on the spot – no judge or jury?

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    @Art

    Art,

    Will blacks stop killing blacks when the police completely disengage from black neighborhoods?

    Replies: @Art

  86. @Inquiring Mind
    @Dr. X


    more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren’t trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started
     
    I was watching a squad of ROTC Marines on their run through campus. Running in a group as they did is great physical training as well as good for unit bonding and the like.

    But along the lines of "train like you fight . . . fight like you were trained", shouldn't those men, as part of their training, conduct that run with much larger spacing between each individual Marine? That they should run through the quadrangle in lines along the two bordering sidewalks, with each man spaced at least 10 yards apart, or whatever the blast radius of those diabolical weapons used by the enemy?

    I suppose keeping such a loose formation on that run takes much more skill than staying in that pack those Marines were in, but isn't that why we are paying the tuition and college expenses of those men, that they would acquire and hone skills?

    The only reason to have soldiers or Marines maneuvering and fighting in close formation is if they were armed with muzzle-loading black-powder rifles and bayonets so they can resist charges from the enemy on horseback. With modern infantry arms, these men can be the required distance apart in relation to the enemy's area weapon while at the same time provide each other with fire cover and mutual support?

    The police standing watch on a protest had an excuse. They had no expectation of this kind of attack, and maybe you need to police bunched up to effect crowd control? But what is the excuse of the military not to instill and drill into their officers to space everybody out?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dr. X

    Tradition is a big part of military culture and I don’t think you’d improve any branch of the armed forces by eliminating drill and ceremony, although I think Army doctrine is or was that you’d eliminate D&C or at least minimize it, and reduce basic from 8 to 6 weeks, if you really needed to train a lot of troops very quickly. The purpose of PT is to burn off fat, build muscle, and build aerobic/cardiovascular capacity and endurance; the benefit of combining it with tactical training is questionable IMHO.

  87. @Anonymous
    or that RINO nitwit Paul Ryan.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    that RINO nitwit Paul Ryan.

    He was kind of a Mitt-wit, wasn’t he?

    Anyway, since the whole GOP has gone cuckservative, it’s those of us registered Republicans who are disgusted with it who are the actual RINOS; e.g., Trump.

  88. @Harry Baldwin
    @SPMoore8

    He received training on close-quarters combat at a private training facility:

    http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2016/A-person-who-runs-a-private-self-defense-school-in-Texas-says-the-gunman-who-killed-five-police-officers-at-a-protest-march-trained-at-the-academy/id-71e58e9fbdd04e29ba1d38259a97fe21

    Replies: @Boomstick

    Eh. What’s described is pretty basic stuff, mostly weapons manipulation. They do describe scenario based training and some simulated force-on-force training using laser scoring, which is better than most people get. The shooter in the videos I’ve seen was moving fast and decisively to finish the other guy, and didn’t let himself be immobilized in cover when shot at. That behavior is often not taught in self defense classes, and it takes more than two hours of practice once a month to develop the skills.

  89. @Anonymous
    Was this a real story or a parody? Did he actually drop a "that's not who we are" quote about this situation?

    Replies: @Jokah Macpherson, @tbraton, @Olorin

    “Was this a real story or a parody? Did he actually drop a “that’s not who we are” quote about this situation?”

    Well, Obama was certainly speaking for me in this situation since I am definitely not a black racist who wants to kill whites, policemen or not. In fact, I have no desire to kill anyone, white, black, brown or yellow, because that’s not who I am.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @tbraton

    Obama was definitely not speaking for me when he trundled out his obnoxious "that's not who we are" line.

    Past the obvious commonality of occupying the same time-space continuum, there is no "we" between us. Unlike Obama and millions of others of his ilk, I am not one of those anti-American non-whites too ignorant and too arrogant to appreciate all the undeserved advantages they have received from living in white society.

  90. @Harry Baldwin
    @Dr. X

    From what I'm reading on the web, Johnson didn't use an AR-15 (civilian semi-auto version of the M16) but an SKS a semiautomatic Russian rifle designed in 1945 and replaced in the 1950s by the AK-47. It is imported into the US as surplus. With its fixed ten-round magazine and no pistol grip, it is legal in California with no modification.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKS

    Replies: @Dr. X

    From what I’m reading on the web, Johnson didn’t use an AR-15 (civilian semi-auto version of the M16) but an SKS

    I had heard “AR” but that was mere hearsay. You may be correct. I haven’t seen any official identification of the weapon as of yet. If it was an SKS the shooter was definitely well inside of 200 yards — they aren’t very accurate. I had a beautiful one I sold 20 years ago because it wouldn’t hold a group tighter than about 6-8″ at 100 yards.

  91. @Inquiring Mind
    @Dr. X


    more than 100-150 yards from the cops, who were probably clustered into a knot, and unlike the enemy in combat weren’t trying to camouflage themselves or take cover before the shooting started
     
    I was watching a squad of ROTC Marines on their run through campus. Running in a group as they did is great physical training as well as good for unit bonding and the like.

    But along the lines of "train like you fight . . . fight like you were trained", shouldn't those men, as part of their training, conduct that run with much larger spacing between each individual Marine? That they should run through the quadrangle in lines along the two bordering sidewalks, with each man spaced at least 10 yards apart, or whatever the blast radius of those diabolical weapons used by the enemy?

    I suppose keeping such a loose formation on that run takes much more skill than staying in that pack those Marines were in, but isn't that why we are paying the tuition and college expenses of those men, that they would acquire and hone skills?

    The only reason to have soldiers or Marines maneuvering and fighting in close formation is if they were armed with muzzle-loading black-powder rifles and bayonets so they can resist charges from the enemy on horseback. With modern infantry arms, these men can be the required distance apart in relation to the enemy's area weapon while at the same time provide each other with fire cover and mutual support?

    The police standing watch on a protest had an excuse. They had no expectation of this kind of attack, and maybe you need to police bunched up to effect crowd control? But what is the excuse of the military not to instill and drill into their officers to space everybody out?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Dr. X

    The short answer to the question is that not all training is combat training. PT, formations, drill, etc. are for different purposes than infantry training.

  92. @whorefinder
    @anon


    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.
     
    Even then, some of them believe in their nonsense religion so wholeheartedly that they will reflexively make excuses about it.


    The non-left is losing because we don't control the megaphones. The Hollywood-Media monopolies must be shattered.

    Replies: @RonaldB, @Anonymous

    The Hollywood-Media monopolies must be shattered.

    It’s already gone. You can get all the information you want on the internet. It takes a modicum of work to get it, rather than lying back on the couch and listening to ABC, NBC, Fox, CNN, or NPR. That’s why Trump is where he is. The 50% or so supporting Hillary are either rent-seekers, welfare recipients, or dreamy liberal leftists impervious to reason and facts.

    In fact, the government is making a multi-pronged effort to re-establish the media oligopoly through limiting the freedom of the internet through covert regulation. Look at the Fairness Doctrine or the plans of the Obama administration to give “international” organizations the power to assign IP addresses.

  93. Black Lives Matter is a religion of peace.

  94. @Art
    The only unusual things about Micah Johnson was that he planned his murder well in advance, and had had the training to shoot policemen from distance.

    Gee - you are breaking the rules - giving some intellectual credit to a black man.

    Although one wonders how much planing he did? He went terrorist more or less 24 hours after the last cop killing of the black man.

    Clearly Micah did not like his people being murdered by white authorities.

    Maybe this will all stop, if white authorities quit killing blacks on the spot - no judge or jury?

    Replies: @RonaldB

    Art,

    Will blacks stop killing blacks when the police completely disengage from black neighborhoods?

    • Replies: @Art
    @RonaldB

    Will blacks stop killing blacks when the police completely disengage from black neighborhoods?

    No - but it will go down. In the south, blacks do not murder each other like they do in the northern big cities with liberal white politicians running the show. Atlanta is a good example.

  95. @anon
    @iSteveFan

    Interesting. I didn't know that. I would bet my bottom dollar she was white.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Almost Missouri

    Asian.

  96. @anon
    @iSteveFan

    Interesting. I didn't know that. I would bet my bottom dollar she was white.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Almost Missouri

    Oh darn, I should have taken up your bottom-dollar bet before I said that …

  97. @iSteveFan
    From the Daily Mail:

    In May 2014, six months into his Afghanistan tour, he was accused of sexual harassment by a female soldier that involved him reportedly buying her underwear from Victoria's Secret.
     
    I am curious if this woman was white. Maybe that, and the fact his dad left his mom and married a white woman, might have helped drive his anti-white animus.

    Replies: @Flip, @anon, @Rob McX

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Rob McX

    Hmm. Maybe women serving in the military with men can 'trigger' problems?

  98. @Jokah Macpherson
    @Anonymous

    "That's not who we are" is his response to everything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Trumpenproleteriat

  99. @tbraton
    @Anonymous

    "Was this a real story or a parody? Did he actually drop a “that’s not who we are” quote about this situation?"

    Well, Obama was certainly speaking for me in this situation since I am definitely not a black racist who wants to kill whites, policemen or not. In fact, I have no desire to kill anyone, white, black, brown or yellow, because that's not who I am.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Obama was definitely not speaking for me when he trundled out his obnoxious “that’s not who we are” line.

    Past the obvious commonality of occupying the same time-space continuum, there is no “we” between us. Unlike Obama and millions of others of his ilk, I am not one of those anti-American non-whites too ignorant and too arrogant to appreciate all the undeserved advantages they have received from living in white society.

  100. @Lurker
    @iSteveFan

    I remember discussing this years ago and an ex-army guy pointed out one aspect of paintball vs real shooting to me.

    In paintball, cover is protection. A sheet of plywood is cover but in paintball its also 100% protection from being hit. Against real bullets - it's none at all. So paintball experience might lead one to be more reckless in the face of hostile fire.

    This person was actually making the reverse point to me - that in some respects, military types playing paintball for the first time might fare less well against experienced players because they would not treat cover as protection and be more timid players.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lurker

    Concealment – that’s the word! Cover is ambiguous.

    I agree with your original point, paintball probably has some useful lessons. Don’t shoot unless you’ve got a good chance of hitting someone (or you want to suppress them) otherwise all you’re doing is giving away your own position and wasting ammo. I found, playing in the woods in summer especially, that if someone stops moving and shooting it’s hard to keep track of their exact position. If I sat tight and did nothing the opposition would often forget about me quite quickly and get careless, I could often pop up and shoot one to their total surprise.

    Whether this is at all applicable to real-world tactics I don’t know. It seems like it might be but I don’t want to sound like some armchair warrior.

  101. @anon
    @whorefinder

    Just tried explaining your three points to my five university educated, twenty-something nephews. I might as well have been speaking in Greek. The media and the schools have done a great job spreading their cultural Marxism. I then tried a more indirect way of giving them THE TALK- NON-BLACK VERSION. A few points sunk in.

    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous, @Flip, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @John Galt

    I’m 29 and people in my generation are generally clueless. I went to a high school that was about 40-45% black so I took the red pill early, but I know tons of rich white kids who have no idea how they certain people act. I have been able to convince most of my friends to come to our side, but they are all middle class white guys. The women seem to be much harder and really buy in to the social justice, white guilt bs.

    It’s getting worse and worse at work as well, diversity and inclusion crap galore. I’m a CPA so the only diversity we usually have our east asians/indians generally.

  102. The president urged Americans to not “let the actions of a few define all of us,”

    what a mother fucking piece of shit. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE’S BEEN DOING SINCE DAY FUCKING ONE.

  103. @Dr. X
    @Brohemius


    The “shooter” said he wanted to kill white people.
     
    Yes, and that's a direct quote from the BLACK police chief of Dallas... who would presumably know more about the situation than Obama, traveling overseas.

    Obama's statement is psychological projection on his part.

    We know the shooter's motive, because he announced it. What Obama really means is that he is himself ambivalent about the shooting of the police. On some level, Obama sympathizes with the cops being shot. He can't say that, of course, but everything in his background from Dreams of My Father to Rev. Wright's "sermons" to the Skip Gates "we don't know all the facts but the cops acted stupidly" incident indicates that psychologically, Obama sees himself and other blacks as victims of a white totalitarian police state.

    Obama pulled the same stunt not two weeks ago. When the Muslim shot up the gay club and announced that he was doing it for Allah and for ISIS, Obama likewise stated that the shooter's motives were unclear. The motives were perfectly clear; Obama simply cannot bring himself to criticize Islam because attachment to it is part of his own psyche.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @interesting

    “Obama sees himself and other blacks as victims of a white totalitarian police state”

    you are 100% correct in that assessment, i have a good friend and he is convinced that the USA is ran by a white supremacy power structure out to get all black people, This guy is normally pretty sharp but he’s been feed this line his whole life by the likes of the moron in the white house.

    we have a whole generation now of professional victims that feel it’s okay to hate white people.

  104. @RonaldB
    @Art

    Art,

    Will blacks stop killing blacks when the police completely disengage from black neighborhoods?

    Replies: @Art

    Will blacks stop killing blacks when the police completely disengage from black neighborhoods?

    No – but it will go down. In the south, blacks do not murder each other like they do in the northern big cities with liberal white politicians running the show. Atlanta is a good example.

  105. @Rob McX
    @iSteveFan

    She was Asian.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Hmm. Maybe women serving in the military with men can ‘trigger’ problems?

  106. anon • Disclaimer says:

    After generations of intensifying propaganda from authority figures, such as the POTUS, about how the white male power structure is out to get the coalition of the fringes, is it all that surprising when a fringe element in the coalition of the fringes starts murdering whites?

    I would say not, especially when inciting a riot that burns down parts of a city gets you invited to the White House.

  107. It was a Saiga AK-74, which is hell and gone from an SKS.

  108. @Anonymous
    Was this a real story or a parody? Did he actually drop a "that's not who we are" quote about this situation?

    Replies: @Jokah Macpherson, @tbraton, @Olorin

    He rarely talks about who, in fact, “we” are. Or who the “we” is he’s indicating…though we know it’s not mainstream Americans.

    There’s a screaming void at the center of this guy. Kind of like shopoholics. “Don’t want that, no, don’t want that, not that, maybe this…no…. Is this me? No, that’s not who I am. What about this?”

    Obama is as he has always been: a blank, a gap, a big black hole never satisfied no how much money and good faith is shoveled in. The voice of the discontented, itchy consumer whose consumption never satisfies. Because it’s engineered not to.

    The voice of the affirmative action Peter Principled mystery meat rootless cosmopolitan. The voice of the ideal resident of the globalista 21st century. “I want that! No, it’s not good enough! I want that other thing!” And middlemen sopping up the profits at every step and phase.

  109. The National Review is making the exact same point as Sailer. I’m glad this mindset is growing.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437688/obama-dallas-cop-killers-motive-hard-know

  110. @whorefinder
    @anon


    I think the only way to really learn the truth about black behaviour is to have experience being around them.
     
    Even then, some of them believe in their nonsense religion so wholeheartedly that they will reflexively make excuses about it.


    The non-left is losing because we don't control the megaphones. The Hollywood-Media monopolies must be shattered.

    Replies: @RonaldB, @Anonymous


    Even after being assaulted, stripped, and robbed covering the Crown Heights riots, columnist and author Jimmy Breslin downplayed the riots as media over reaction, and it didn’t shake his personal identification with the rioters.
    http://www.villagevoice.com/news/faded-rage-6414420
    http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-importance-of-jimmy-breslin-6413990

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