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President Trump won’t have to give Barack Obama the locker next to Bill Clinton’s at Trump National after all. From the New York Times today:
Despite Country Club Members’ Rift, Obama Gets an Invitation
By MARK LANDLER JAN. 23, 2017
WASHINGTON — For weeks, the members of an exclusive, mostly Jewish country club in the Maryland suburbs of Washington have been entangled in a bitter dispute over whether to exclude former President Barack Obama, who has played golf there, because of Mr. Obama’s policies toward Israel.
On Monday, the management of the club, Woodmont Country Club, sought to put an end to the rancor, sending a letter to members notifying them that it had invited Mr. Obama and his wife, Michelle, to join as “special members.” Under those terms, the former first couple would pay dues and other fees but would be spared the $80,000 initiation fee. …
The club initially declined to comment, saying it did not discuss membership deliberations. But with news of the dispute spreading to Israel and Britain, the board of governors and executive committee felt obliged to deal with it. After lengthy debate, Mr. Forman said in his letter, the club decided to send Mr. Obama a formal invitation to join.
Mr. Forman invoked the club’s heritage as a place that welcomed Jews when they were excluded by other clubs in the nation’s capital, and noted that its membership had become more diverse in its 103-year history. He acknowledged the rift that the prospect of Mr. Obama’s membership had caused.
… As it happens, the former president has been playing golf in Rancho Mirage, Calif., since he relinquished the presidency to Donald J. Trump on Friday. …
While in the White House, Mr. Obama played most of his golf at a course at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland. Occasionally, he tried other private clubs in Washington, some of which were historically exclusive. Some Jewish leaders exulted in the prospect of him joining a club that was started to serve people rejected by those other social bastions.
That’s why Jewish country clubs were famous for immediately letting in lots of Italians, Poles, French Canadians, blacks, Japanese, Mexicans, American Indians and all the other people discriminated against by WASP country clubs. For example … well … hmhhhmmhmm … actually I can’t think of any examples.
Oh, wait: here’s an example: Hillcrest, the Hollywood moguls’ country club, let in Danny Thomas, when he was one of the top television stars and most admired philanthropists in the country, after only about 30 or 35 years of being 100% Jewish.
Or here’s another example of the open-armed love of diversity for which Jewish country clubs were so famous: After WWII, the German Jewish Century Club in Westchester County started letting in Russian Jews after merely a couple of generations of blackballing every single one of them who tried to sneak in.
You almost might think from the historical record that Jews kind of liked having their own country clubs, just like the WASPs liked having their own.
But, of course, no, it couldn’t possibly be true that Jews tend to be kind of like everybody else when it comes to being somewhat ethnocentric. It’s unthinkable that rich golfing Jews ever had any agency.
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A country club? Obama is the whitest black guy since Carlton Banks.
Bill Clinton's wealthy black fixer friend was one too.
Is there no club for wealthy black golfers?Replies: @Hodag, @Jeff Albertson
Thank G-D for pioneers like this! My old neighbor likes to tell about his grandfather who was one of only three Jews to gain admission to Harvard back in the 1920s. I mean, according to Jerome Karabel, Harvard’s entering class was 30% Jewish in 1925, but you know what I mean, right?
What a relief!
It’s true. Harvard had only 9 students in the 20s.
What, they held him down and used Clorox? *tshh*
Pretty sure Michelle finished the job years ago. *badump*
Welcome, new staff, to the 19th Hole. *kaboom tsshh booom*
What’s the point of a country club if you let everyone in?
The same holds true for countries. Perhaps we could rename the United States - The Purple Mountains Majestic Country Club.
Michelle Obama can start matchmaking for her daughters.
The “high” IQ tribe:
Report: Obama quietly sent $221 million to the Palestinian Authority hours before leaving office
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-obama-quietly-sent-221-million-to-the-palestinian-authority-hours-before-leaving-office-2017-1
Historic.
Don’t be fuld!
Dick Fuld rip out your heart
– http://la.curbed.com/2016/9/7/12833958/malibu-golf-club-sells
The Golfocaust is a solid tag. Well played. I would have gone with “Shoah on Hole 17” for it’s dramatic, Twilight Zoney tone.
Ex-commanders in chief not named Trump should stick to military courses. There are a lot of them out there, and some surprisingly good ones, including a Tillinghast at Kittatinny Arsenal in NJ. These courses shut out the general public so they wouldn’t have to worry about crowds, and it would be a nice statement of support for the military. But then, we’re talking about Obama.
Sorry, it’s Picatinny Arsenal
Would make for an awkward moment at the 19th hole sitting around the gas fueled fire. Could he actually trust any of the bartenders with his drink? Besides, Michelle isn’t that social.
OT?
DNC Chair Candidates Bash White People in Racially-Charged Forum
https://news.grabien.com/story-dnc-chair-candidates-bash-white-people-racially-charged-foru
Carlton didn’t have a white mommy. Nor was he raised by white folks (or Indonesians), though he did grow up in lilly-white (by California standards) Bel Air.
OT: Alternative Facts is a huge meme, and one released on purpose.
HBDers should particularly understand the import, since they live in a land of alternative facts, more or less.
Huge meme. Our side has our facts. And we have the factual facts, since we know the MSM has been printing lies/Fake News/Alternative Facts since the Vietnam War at least.
Shucks, it is only Monday, this is going to be the best presidency ever, following the best presidential election ever.
And it would be a good title for iSteve’s upcoming book on how Trump dunnit. “Alternative Facts”
Does describe our outlook.
The affirmative-action boost never goes away: as “special” members the Obamas are excused from paying the $80,000 initiation fee which all other would-be members must pony up.
Wow. Just wow.
Dick Fuld rip out your heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZCmWkQuyPc- http://la.curbed.com/2016/9/7/12833958/malibu-golf-club-sellsReplies: @Steve Sailer
I was playing in a charity golf tournament at the Malibu Golf Club on August 2, 1990 when I heard that Saddam Hussein had invaded Kuwait, the price of oil was skyrocketing, stocks were crashing, and a recession was inevitable.
It vaguely dawned on me that maybe I shouldn’t have flown across the country to play in a charity golf tournament.
OT: Poland’s Deputy Prime Minister Morawiecki
just announced that 30,000 finance jobs will move
from Britain to Poland this year due to Brexit. Does
this mean that Brits will now be moving to Poland
to look for a job? But there is no question that Britain
and Poland have unexpectedly become much closer in
recent years. The two lady prime ministers Theresa May and
Beata Szydlo have really hit it off
“Oy, Porterhouse! Look at the wax build-up on those shoes! This is fine leather! I want that wax stripped off! I want them creamed and buffed with a fine chamois already.”
I don’t know what the MSM thinks it has on its hands with “alternative facts.” Maybe Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s point with “you’re not entitled to your own facts.” But that’s not how it’s gonna play out. This will go about as well as “fake news.”
Nassim Taleb (correctly, in my opinion) thinks that Christians and other non-Muslim Levantines are genetically and culturally closer to Europeans, and apparently he started to sound more and more like some kind of white nationalist or something. Although he isn’t one, I think he’s still stuck at this culture thingy. But who knows?
The obvious thing for a former POTUS who is staying around Washington would be to keep playing at Andrews, no?
Danny Thomas was Roman Catholic, born in Detroit of Lebanese Maronite Catholic parents. Equally diverse.
OT: Per the ongoing/developing resistance to the Trump regime.
The opposition to Trump is definitely trending to a hard line that the Trump Presidency is illegitimate and to be opposed by all means.
I’m wondering at what point does this become fomenting sedition? Organizing opposition, which is increasingly violent, against a duly installed government that the opposition declares illegimate because they won’t accept the result of a free and fair election, are actually calling for it to be overturned.
I wonder who is going to be the first person charged. Somebody is going to step over the line, assuming present trends continue.
It’s about 5 miles further to Andrews than to Woodmont from Kalorama.
Not that big of a difference.
One need not have seen this article to know how it was going to turn out. The mere fact, that there was some public noise about the situation meant that these guys were going to get some serious, mounting pressure from other Jews to admit Obama. Failure to admit Obama would draw some *very* unwanted attention to the membership policies of Jewish clubs, which further rubs right up against the issue of Jewish behavior, ethnocentrism and the very nature of Judaism.
Maintaining fictions–gentiles discriminate, we Jews welcome integration; Jews are progressive, open, non-discriminatory–and keeping gentiles from thinking very hard about Jewish behavior–hey, now how come Jews get to discriminate? how come Jews get to be tribal and ethnocentric? but all that is racist for white Christians?–is way more important than settling some petty meaningless score over UN votes on Israel.
“What’s the point of a country club if you let everyone in?”
The same holds true for countries. Perhaps we could rename the United States – The Purple Mountains Majestic Country Club.
Yeah but you have to go through really bad parts of town to get to Andrews. One reason presidents generally use a chopper.
I know, you almost feel sorry watching the poor dumb suckers in the MSM, etc, falling for this stuff over and over.
No way Conway just ad hoc’ed that phrase.
One element that the left doesn’t get is the huge amount of trollery the Trump camp routinely engages in and how effective it is.
I don’t think his supporters do entirely either, but certainly more than the liberals do.
That’s why we are having fun and they are not, even before the election.
Yes, Danny Thomas was a Semite but not a Jew. Few people know he was a tremendous stand-up comedian, and the best story teller I ever heard.
I’m sure there must be some debunking expose somewhere about what a horrible person Danny Thomas was secretly, but I’ve never heard of it. As a Catholic school kid in the 1960s-70s in LA I met lots of people who had met him and they were all wild about him.
The pope should think about starting him on the path to canonization for founding his big research hospital for children.
Five miles is not nothing. I can see the sixteenth fairway from my balcony, and I like the proximity. But if I had a Govt Uber at my permanent disposal I could maybe think about going 4 miles down the the road. Depends where he feels more at home, I suppose.
“Carlton didn’t have a white mommy. Nor was he raised by white folks (or Indonesians), though he did grow up in lilly-white (by California standards) Bel Air.”
Bel Air is lily White by any standards, not just California standards. Bel Air is only 0.9% Black. Even Salt Lake City is Blacker than Bel Air.
“Picatinny Arsenal”: I’d have thought that the reason a blackish man wouldn’t use that was a trifle obvious.
Wow. Just wow.Replies: @dearieme
“the Obamas are excused from paying the $80,000 initiation fee”: is that his first recorded bribe since leaving office?
Some cracks are developing in the facade. The Daily Mail had an interesting piece on the Obama’s trip to Palm Springs. Barry and family were staying at the home of a homosexual couple! At least until Sunday/ Monday when Michelle was spotted boarding Sir Richard Branson’s private jet and flying all the way back across the US to Branson’s private island in the Caribbean. Barry was not seen boarding the plane. That’s a mighty big carbon footprint but I’m curious if getting a lift on a private jet is considered a ‘gift’ for tax purposes. Trump might want to have the IRS keep an eye on the Obama’s as they hit the post presidential scrounging trail. A $80,000 membership waiver comes to mind
The other thing about Woodmont. Ostensibly the Obama’s are only renting their Kalorama pied a terre so Obama’s youngest can finish her schooling at Sidwell Friends but if Obama is going to join a country club in the area it would seem he, at least, is settling in for the long haul. I once was told the scion of the Reynolds Aluminum fortune belonged to 17 different country clubs but Obama doesn’t have that kind of money and with Michelle’s taste for the billionaire lifestyle one wonders how long Barry will be able to indulge her.
Oh yes he does. Estimated $19 million net worth plus guaranteed retirement salary from taxpayers of $569,000 a year. Not to mention future speaking fees and royalties. He is a very wealthy man.
Stan O’Neal, the former CEO of Merrill Lynch, is black (from Alabama) and is an avid golfer.
Bill Clinton’s wealthy black fixer friend was one too.
Is there no club for wealthy black golfers?
Michael Jordan is building a golf club in Florida, so that may fit the bill.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Bill Clinton's wealthy black fixer friend was one too.
Is there no club for wealthy black golfers?Replies: @Hodag, @Jeff Albertson
The short answer is no. The point of a country club is to be away from the city, that is why many to most great old clubs tend to be near train lines.
Michael Jordan is building a golf club in Florida, so that may fit the bill.
But aren’t those “bad parts of town” all Obama supporters?
Michael Jordan is building a golf club in Florida, so that may fit the bill.Replies: @Steve Sailer
I wrote a spec script about a rich black athlete trying to build a country club back in 1999.
Indeed, but also ’tis their nature to throw rocks at anything that moves.
I never was much of a golf person, although my father was. He regularly took over the TV set whenever the PGA tour was on. As with most children this drive me outside to find other interests, like baseball and football.
I did developer a curiosity of sorts about the game when I was in the nineth grade. At that time I was going to school outside of Monterey CA and the school was overlooked the a beautiful course with a great view of the ocean. During math class it was hard to concentrate because my eyes kept being drawn to the golfers outside the large panoramic Windows of the classroom. It looked like a simple game , hit the ball toward the hole til you get it in. The rule I never figured out was when you hit your ball int the water you have to also throw your club in the water. Could be quite expensive.
I foresee many Larry David moments as club members get bumped off the green for Obama and his security detail. Especially since ordinary members had to pay $80K to be there.
Righteousness has limits when it’s a big pain in the ass.
By 1919, about 80% of the students at New York’s Hunter and City colleges were Jews, and 40% at Columbia. Jews at Harvard tripled to 21% of the freshman class in 1922 from about 7% in 1900.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/harvard-s-jewish-problem
It looks like by the 20s the universities had student bodies representing the geopraphic areas they drew students from. Some more local others national.
Beat me to it: Dass racis’.
Similar to how the admission by test high schools in NY (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) are now 75% Asian. Ethnic concentration +IQ difference+motivation. If Hunter and City College still had the same admission system (and free tuition) that they had in the ’20s, they would also be 75% Asian today.
I started reading Gus Russo’s “Supermob” last night, and in the first 3 pages he takes about 1000 words to detail the differences between German Jews (who emigrated to Chicago btwn roughly the 1830s and 1870s) and the Russian Jews like Sidney Korshak’s parents (who emigrated in the 1880-90s). Instructive, and validates our host’s point that discrimination was a bigger problem in-group than it ever was in the out-group for the Jews.
https://books.google.com/books?id=YalWxsoWEIkC&lpg=PA3&dq=gus%20supermob%20russian%20german%20jew&pg=PA2#v=onepage&q=gus%20supermob%20russian%20german%20jew&f=false
“perhaps worst of all, the Russian Jews were perceived as being unrelated to the original twelve tribes of the Torah.”
Bonus for Steve – lots of good Chicago history and geography to bump up against.
Big sections of the Iliad.
This is just not true. The German Jews didn't like the "Russian" Jews (who were not even from Russia - they were mainly from the area of Poland that had been annexed by Russia) but they didn't consider them to be of a different race. The Eastern Jews even spoke a Germanic language attesting to their common roots in Germany (although the German Jews regarded Yiddish as sort of Ebonics German and not a real language). Many of the German Jews themselves were descendants of Jews from further east who had migrated back to German lands.
To the extent that the Ashkenazi Jews are supposedly Khazars (an idea that had some currency in the late 19th century), the same would have been equally true of the German Jews.
If Francis were not a flaming Leftist, a strange amalgam of old fashioned rather naive Peronist socialism with 20th century Jesuit abstract leftism, then he might honor Danny Thomas. But Francis is far more likely to want to canonize Cesar Chavez.
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/820739930955649028
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/820717260792885251Replies: @Jake
I would assume that Lebanese and Palestinian Christians are more European genetically than are the Moslems living in the same area. Central to the Islamic conversions in the area was the call for people to, essentially, be Semites fully. That meant giving up Latin and Greek and most aspects of European culture as well as Christianity, all that to be replaced by Islam and Arabic.
Does a special membership allow the Obama’s to bring guests? Can their children go? Can their children bring guests? I assume the Obama children will not be considered ‘legacies’.
Asian love free stuff and discount tuitions. The UC system is a big reason California is overrun with Chinese opthamologists, tax accountants, storefront immigration lawyers, and software engineers.
https://books.google.com/books?id=YalWxsoWEIkC&lpg=PA3&dq=gus%20supermob%20russian%20german%20jew&pg=PA2#v=onepage&q=gus%20supermob%20russian%20german%20jew&f=false
"perhaps worst of all, the Russian Jews were perceived as being unrelated to the original twelve tribes of the Torah."
Bonus for Steve - lots of good Chicago history and geography to bump up against.Replies: @stillCARealist, @Jack D
I love getting good book ideas from this blog. Tell me, would this book be fun and interesting to read for someone with no Chicago background? A few Amazon reviews said it was poorly written and was more like a reference book. I don’t like books that are essentially lists of name of people I’ve never heard of.
Big sections of the Iliad.
How clubbable are the Obamas anyway? Barack’s public affect is one of self-adulation and petulance while Michelle seems to impress people as abrasive. Now that they’ve left the White House the thrill of meeting either of them must be dissipating quickly. Has Barack developed a lot of connections like Bill or George had to ensure his continued popularity?
They just aren't allowed to express that with this particular ex. But he's not welcome in Washington, he'll be merely tolerated. As we've seen with this Woodmont business, barely.Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
I was actually thinking in my head about suntans. I live in MN, where you have to stay indoors 9 months of the year, and therefore have a hard time thinking of Californians as “lily-white.”
Some very rich people still want him (and her) around, especially when he can’t play golf because of the rain.
Is that legal?
“Obama Finally de-blackballed by Jewish Country Club”
Ouch! That sounds extremely painful!
The other thing about Woodmont. Ostensibly the Obama's are only renting their Kalorama pied a terre so Obama's youngest can finish her schooling at Sidwell Friends but if Obama is going to join a country club in the area it would seem he, at least, is settling in for the long haul. I once was told the scion of the Reynolds Aluminum fortune belonged to 17 different country clubs but Obama doesn't have that kind of money and with Michelle's taste for the billionaire lifestyle one wonders how long Barry will be able to indulge her.Replies: @Opinionator, @Foreign Expert
I once was told the scion of the Reynolds Aluminum fortune belonged to 17 different country clubs but Obama doesn’t have that kind of money
Oh yes he does. Estimated $19 million net worth plus guaranteed retirement salary from taxpayers of $569,000 a year. Not to mention future speaking fees and royalties. He is a very wealthy man.
Can it really be said that Obama…
To voluntarily give up, to renounce or surrender?
Trump was elected to the post, he succeeded Obama in office as Obama’s term expired. Obama relinquished nothing…
Or perhaps, like the definition at dictionary.com: to relinquish the throne!
Board members are going to get ousted in this deal. When Obama shows up with two groups of Black dope-smoking basketball players, profane, loud and disrespectful of the course (I’ve heard from around Andrews what went on over there) and atmosphere, who the Hell is going to Marshal them? That would be racist and besides, he’s an Ex-President. It isn’t so much Obama (ok, yeah it is, he’s a dink), it’s those he travels with. And why the Hell NOT charge him the 80K initiation? It will cover some of the damage. Oh, those folks at Woodmont are going to be sorry they let that bastard in. Heads are going to roll over there. They sent out notice this was happening, Obama NEVER would have cleared a vote of members or even the membership committee. This doesn’t end well. So much for Freedom of Association. The PGA Tour should have done this at Avenel. Burning Tree is out, they absolutely hate Blacks.
Still, Obama is going to be very lonely in Washington. He’s not going to stay beyond the youngest daughter’s time at Sidwell Friends. He’s a man without a country and a wife that hates this country in any case.
Steve, “Golfocaust” has to be your best turn of phrase. You need to try to get patent protection for it.
I am thinking, an Amazon or Netflix series, sort of like “The Man in the High Castle,” with sand traps.
Bill Clinton's wealthy black fixer friend was one too.
Is there no club for wealthy black golfers?Replies: @Hodag, @Jeff Albertson
Yeah, Haines Point.
Nah, he’s a nobody. He wasn’t a networker outside of his sports heroes. A major complaint throughout was his refusal to consult the way Clinton did. Even Democrats couldn’t get a call back. Valerie Jarrat was aware he’s a moron and shouldn’t have too much contact with outsiders. She knew. Everyone knew. Take one look at Obama off the prompter with all the uhhhs and duhhhs while he searches for two syllables. His lifelong membership in the Choom Gang was not conducive to memory and expression and clarity of thought. He’s going to find himself isolated and shut out even from Democrat circles. He is the one after all, who has cost them everything on Capitol Hill and an awful lot in State Houses and Governor’s seat. You don’t do that with such impunity and expect accolades. It’s not for nothing that Presidents leave. Frequently, they cost their party and now they want out and are wanted out. Everywhere he campaigned for Hillary, she lost. He was elected for one reason, everyone knows why and he now is viewed with considerable, if unexpressed bitterness.
They just aren’t allowed to express that with this particular ex. But he’s not welcome in Washington, he’ll be merely tolerated. As we’ve seen with this Woodmont business, barely.
https://books.google.com/books?id=YalWxsoWEIkC&lpg=PA3&dq=gus%20supermob%20russian%20german%20jew&pg=PA2#v=onepage&q=gus%20supermob%20russian%20german%20jew&f=false
"perhaps worst of all, the Russian Jews were perceived as being unrelated to the original twelve tribes of the Torah."
Bonus for Steve - lots of good Chicago history and geography to bump up against.Replies: @stillCARealist, @Jack D
“perhaps worst of all, the Russian Jews were perceived as being unrelated to the original twelve tribes of the Torah.”
This is just not true. The German Jews didn’t like the “Russian” Jews (who were not even from Russia – they were mainly from the area of Poland that had been annexed by Russia) but they didn’t consider them to be of a different race. The Eastern Jews even spoke a Germanic language attesting to their common roots in Germany (although the German Jews regarded Yiddish as sort of Ebonics German and not a real language). Many of the German Jews themselves were descendants of Jews from further east who had migrated back to German lands.
To the extent that the Ashkenazi Jews are supposedly Khazars (an idea that had some currency in the late 19th century), the same would have been equally true of the German Jews.
Being a former POTUS is prestigious (especially in modern times with the increasingly imperial Presidency) regardless of what your personality is. It’s easily worth $80,000 to the club just to be able to say “this is where the (ex) President golfs”.
Obama wasn't voted, he was imposed.
I am thinking, an Amazon or Netflix series, sort of like "The Man in the High Castle," with sand traps.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Christian
A commenter came up with it, maybe TITLES IN CAPS?
“I would assume that Lebanese and Palestinian Christians are more European genetically than are the Moslems living in the same area.”
No DNA studies back up your claim. Also even going by phenotype Arab Christians are not any less MENA looking than Arab Muslims.
I am thinking, an Amazon or Netflix series, sort of like "The Man in the High Castle," with sand traps.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jim Christian
Make those quick-sand traps and I’m in.
Woodmont doesn’t care. They probably have an endowment in the hundreds of millions. They don’t host the U.S. Open, but they host qualifiers. I used to go down and walk with those guys while they played at Woodmont. It’s a major-league course, but they won’t give up the property even to the PGA Tour. It wouldn’t matter if Jesus H. Christ walked across the ponds with a 9-Iron, it’s nothing to them. The three or four clubs in Maryland (Congressional, Woodmont, Burning Tree and now the PGATour property at Avenel give two-hoots about Obama or any other President. They have fuck you money and appeal to the people they want there, they have no use for Obama and his Simian wife. The board imposed Obama, he wasn’t voted in. I assure you, they especially don’t want any of them in the pool. Think Baby Ruth in the movie Caddyshack. That’s the kind of people they are.
Obama wasn’t voted, he was imposed.
A Riverside County Sheriff’s Department vehicle blocked traffic in both directions on Highway 111 as the motorcade sped to the airport.
Is that legal?
They just aren't allowed to express that with this particular ex. But he's not welcome in Washington, he'll be merely tolerated. As we've seen with this Woodmont business, barely.Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
I think the Obamas will maintain a high public profile and enjoy popularity in the press and public sentiment. To freeze them out would be foolish on the DNC’s part. The average Democrat voter doesn’t blame Obama for its losses, and Michelle has a large following. They are still a powerful symbol and asset to the party, and when was it ever about real substance with them anyway?
No, Cesar Chavez opposed illegal immigration, so no sainthood for him.
Jim, Obama will soon hear the word “putz” quite often and think his fellow members are talking about their game.
Ouch! That sounds extremely painful!Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Big Bill, Jesse Jackson wanted to do that to Barry years ago.
Still, Obama is going to be very lonely in Washington. He's not going to stay beyond the youngest daughter's time at Sidwell Friends. He's a man without a country and a wife that hates this country in any case.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jim Don Bob
Jim, Michelle is going to become quite bitter when she realizes that unless white people invite them, or gift them, she and Barry own nothing.
Still, Obama is going to be very lonely in Washington. He's not going to stay beyond the youngest daughter's time at Sidwell Friends. He's a man without a country and a wife that hates this country in any case.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jim Don Bob
I agree. Why would anyone pay to hear BHO stutter through 30 minutes of “me” and “I”? BJC had at least HRC in the bag (so to speak) and was a great BS’er. BHO had his chance as the first Black president and failed. The Ds under him lost 1000+ seats nationwide. I just don’t see how he gets anywhere near the post president money that BJC got.
The other thing about Woodmont. Ostensibly the Obama's are only renting their Kalorama pied a terre so Obama's youngest can finish her schooling at Sidwell Friends but if Obama is going to join a country club in the area it would seem he, at least, is settling in for the long haul. I once was told the scion of the Reynolds Aluminum fortune belonged to 17 different country clubs but Obama doesn't have that kind of money and with Michelle's taste for the billionaire lifestyle one wonders how long Barry will be able to indulge her.Replies: @Opinionator, @Foreign Expert
How long before Barry comes out?