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An NYT op-ed columnist writes:
Why Does Donald Trump Keep Dissing Jews?
Frank Bruni JULY 8, 2017
When something happens once, it’s a curiosity. Twice, it’s a coincidence.
Three times or more, it’s a pattern.
And Donald Trump has established a pattern of offending — or at the very least ignoring — Jews. …
Then there was an initial, strange silence from Trump and his aides about a rash of anti-Semitic vandalism and bomb threats around the country in January and February. …
Go back to his mini-tantrum during a White House news conference in February, when a reporter for a Jewish magazine tried to ask him whether he was paying proper heed to the anti-Semitic bomb threats. Trump interpreted the question as an indictment not of his behavior but of his being — “I am the least anti-Semitic person that you’ve ever seen in your entire life!” he trumpeted — and turned the discussion toward the big, bad media. Forget about any persecution of Jews. Let’s talk about the persecution of Trump.
Isn’t anybody embarrassed over twice citing this example? As you may remember and I remember, but Frank Bruni and his editors apparently don’t remember, two people have since been arrested for these bomb threats: a black leftist journalist and a Jewish Israeli man.
It’s a lot easier to remember facts like that when you possess a concept in your mind called Hate Hoaxes. Concepts are tremendous tools for possessing knowledge. Without concepts, facts are little more than random noise. A named concept like Hate Hoaxes is even more useful.
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Maybe Mr Bruni thinks that Jews should expect to be mollycoddled in the way that poofs are.
Hey, c'mon. Somebodies went to a great deal of trouble to set them all up as Put Upon Minorities, ya know. Even, laughably, "girls," who last I checked constituted 51% of this nation's population.
They demand to be mollycoddled...then when you do, call it "patronizing."
They spoil for a fight...then when you ignore them, call it "dissing."
If you fight as they demand...it's evidence of your imperialism/patriarchy/etc.
As for Donald Trump "dissing Jews," that must make for some amazing holiday family dinners, eh?
“Why Does Donald Trump Keep Dissing Jews?” Maybe because his election demonstrates that it’s much safer to do so, or at least safer to not have to constantly prostrate oneself before the endless absurd obsessions of 2% of the national population. Trump makes the majority of American Jews’ (whether liberal or neo-con) skin crawl, for reasons they can’t always readily explain to others, at least not in ways that don’t sound weirdly and inappropriately obsessed with events eighty years ago on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean (though they’ve managed to convert a significant fraction of gentiles to these same weird historical obsessions).
I wouldn’t expect that this is necessarily a permanent or long-term outcome here, and it relies on sub rosa and abstract understandings of how American politics and culture work in ways that few people will talk about explicitly, but American Jews seems to have been having a rough year. On the left, there seems to be less and less victimhood for them to share in (if anything, Zionism seems more and more to be identified with the Oppressors, and even a few lefties are noticing that many of the 2% are part of the 1%). On the right, neoconservatism basically tried everything it could to Stop Trump, and has been rolled so flat that it seems like neocons don’t even care enough anymore to stop themselves from giving voice to their uglier sentiments about “dying, lazy white America.” Maybe Trump is dis(respect)ing Jews now because they just don’t command as much respect as they used to.
Some people have kicked around theories, quite a lot in the last week and particularly on this blog’s comments, that Trump deliberately trolls the media and the left into making themselves look ridiculous and weird, whether deliberately or not. Could he maybe be doing the same thing with the things that constantly haunt American Jews?
Israel will return the favor by legally limiting the law of Return to favor orthodox Judaism. I'm not sure which event will actually come first.
My own opinion is that the US and Israel should get rid of the co-dependent involvement with each other, and go their own ways. They should share the common interests of protecting Western civilization.Replies: @Lex, @lavoisier, @Lot, @Thomas
This probably has some connection to Steve's theory of country clubs in LA, but offhand I can't think of what it would be.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Thomas, @Anon 2
Failure to fawn enough is not “dissing”.
Trump, for better or worse, is strongly pro-Jewish (or at least pro-Israel). All Jews in New York knew this until his run for president gave them amnesia.
He was even grand marshal of NYC’s Saulte to Israel parade. He was the perfect pick. A reliably pro-Israel Gentile businessman with no particular ties to partisan politics. 😉
Why do we keep dissing the Poles, one of the few EU countries whose citizens are required to get a an old-school, stand in line and wait weeks to finally get visa to visit the US? Oh yeah, it’s the grudge of a certain religious group.
The suit filed by Bronfman in a New York court alleges that Singer failed to pay back more than $500,000 in personal loans that triggered an investigation by the New York State Attorney General's Office into the WJC's finances in 2004.
http://www.jpost.com/Cafe-Oleh/Ask-The-Expert/Bronfman-WJC-file-suits-against-ex-chairman-Israel-Singer
Some say that getting Eliot Spitzer in 2008 was a pay back for going after WJC and Singer.Replies: @Anon 2
Trump basically rolls over for Israel and lets Miller define the alt-right agenda, inserting the usual Judeo-Christian nonsense in the process. Ivanka and her husband play major roles in his administration, when they aren’t hobnobbing with the likes of George Soros, as do many other Jews. Wall Street is doing fine, and Hollywood is allowed to pollute unfettered.
The only reason that Trump is at war with the MSM is because he has been so irrationally and viciously attacked by the MSM collective. But he has never attacked the media as being Jewish.
I’d think that Jews would be thrilled with Trump. I guess that paying lip-service to a base that he neither knows or cares for is just too much for many Jews. If they don’t get every little thing they want, sealed with a nice little kiss on the collective ass, it’s back to screaming about ovens and cattle cars.
How does that Bruni piece get published? It fits the narrative.
Has there ever been a president as pro Jew and pro Israel as Trump? I can’t think of one but that doesn’t mean that Trump isn’t just like Hitler in the eyes of most Jews. They have zero tolerance for his lack of interest in open borders for white countries, waging war over every anti Semitic hoax and showing disdain for white men. The bar is low for whites being just like Hitler these days. You just have to not be an ethno masochist.
Jews enjoyed special status all election long as canaries in the coal mine warning liberals against the incipient fascism in the heartland that’s about to explode the nation’s democracy any minute now.
“They’ve seen it all before! They know the signs! Their inherited trauma mutation has given them a soothsaying superpower.”
Nah. It’s the same reason they continue to say Michael Brown was peaceful or that Russia invaded Georgia. The lies are more useful.
Nothing short of permanent prostation is good enough for Jews. Half-hearted pandering and coddling just won’t do. They want W. Bush back, in other words: a docile poodle they can beat up and abuse while it licks their feet.
So, if Trump is 90% philosemitic, it falls short of their expectation of 100% kosher philosemitism and “Judeo-Christian” values.
Also, as as a successful New York businessman in real estate, Trump must have been one of the rare goys to outjew the Jews at their own game. That still hurts, I reckon.
They remember they just know few other remember because they made sure they never found out or made the right conections
Didn’t Trump just give a speeCh glowingly praising Polish Jews?
One of the (many) great things about possessing The Megaphone is that you can dedicate some resources to long-term projects like this one.
After all, as this report to the shareholders notes, several are underway just in the Identity Politics specialty alone.
This is pretty funny. The Jews on the outside, nervously looking in:
Besides the hope for a jackpot down the road, we’re seeing the inner workings of Identity Politics. Little noticed is how coercive and downright nasty it gets on both sides of the transaction, if it must. In other words, one way or another everyone is going to learn Who’s Boss.
And, you don’t get any more bald (Hillary/Democrats) Projection (re BLM) than this:
As the above alludes, Identity Politics is essentially entrepreneurial within the realm of politics. Though, as we’ve seen, it cannot help but quickly descend into the electioneering equivalent of the Payday Loans business. Nasty but profitable.
Jews are anything but fertile ground for these efforts. They’re the very opposite of outsiders without agency. Indeed, any self-respecting Jew is rightly offended at the characterization. Thus, in the immediate, Bruni is offering soothing words to anti-Trump Jews. Not the ones who voted for Hillary. There were lots of them. But the ones who ran this nonsense that Trump exploits anti-semitism around the block to throw the election to Hillary.
Dennis Prager said it was a Jewish kid living in Israel and after Trump directed the FBI to find the culprits behind the threats, the FBI flew to Israel and arrested the kid immediately. The authorities in both the US and Israel knew the threats were a hoax all along but it helped with their narratives so they ignored it. I bet the ADL knew all along as well.
Looks like a case of positive feedback coming to an end. There is only so much moaning and wailing on behalf of Israel, the Holocaust, etc. that a society can maintain.
Whether or not Donald trump is an anti-Semite is irrelevant. He behaves in a manner consistent with anti-semites, he embraces anti-semites and neo nazis and therefore he has encouraged these groups in their very sincere efforts to attack Jews. Just ask any Jewish journalist what their social media is filled with or get online and see swastikas all over the place. The synagogue near our house has had to hire armed security this past year. The Presbyterian church around the corner doesn’t even have a gate. Trump has been given a total pass on his racism and anti-semitism etc by white journalists who somehow are always willing to attribute the best qualities to him despite any evidence they are deserved. While white men debate what is in Trumps heart of hearts, the reality is his actions have encouraged and emboldened these anti Semitic groups and they mean business. Just ask any of your Jewish friends how scared they are for their children’s safety at Hebrew school.
AFAIK, Bruni is a poof, so it makes sense…
I like how the narcissistic jew equates being dissed and being ignored. Oy Vey, it’s terrible!
Jews:
the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral
antisemitic:
any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like
It is amusing that Wikipedia still blames the Alt-right or “a growing attitude of racial intolerance”.
However, Infogalactic specifically mentions Hate crime hoaxes:
https://infogalactic.com/info/2017_Jewish_Community_Center_bomb_threats
Frank Anthony Bruni is not Jewish — for those here who are already assuming he is.
Ho hmm - Mr. Bruni just put in a request for a raise.
Frank Anthony Bruni is not Jewish — for those here who are already assuming he is.
Ho hmm – Mr. Bruni just put in a request for a raise.
This is one of the ways that fake news operates. They’re expecting that the narrative will outlive the truth. There are still people out there who believe that a University of Virginia freshman was raped by marauding frat boys in a Satanic ritual because the Rolling Stone story popped up in their Facebook feeds. Bruni is hoping that something similar is happening here.
Trump dissing Jews = Trump likes Bibi, who secular liberal coastal Jews HATE HATE HATE like women hate beta males. That is all.
Indeed the reaction is like some moderately attractive woman being asked out for coffee by a nerd. Its RAPE!
What was the third time? That he went to Poland and didn’t take the opportunity to publicy berate Poles for having been the awful anti-semites that many Jews often claim they were?
presidents, did not visit the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (1943) monument
and instead delivered his speech at the highly symbolic Warsaw
Uprising (1944) monument. The fact that Trump felt it was okay
to ignore the Jewish wishes means that something is changing.
Until recently the much larger Warsaw Uprising of 1944 against
the German occupation (which resulted in the deaths of over
200,000 people, hundreds of thousand of Polish Christians being
taken to concentration camps, and Warsaw itself systematically mined
and blowtorched - all despite the fact that in September 1944 the Germans
already knew they were losing) was safely ignored by the American
press. The historian Norman Davies has written a massive volume
about it, and more will be forthcomingReplies: @Hippopotamusdrome
BULL.
Trump is the biggest shabbos goy POTUS ever! And that is saying a lot.
Trump’s rhetoric does not match his actions on the big issues. He’s a faux reformer. For the Jews, supporters of the American status quo, Trump is turning out to be “business as usual” when it comes to actual action and not rhetoric.
And that's what he spent his life doing.Replies: @anarchyst
Le #Résistance have to throw up something every day, but there is isn’t really any meat there so they regurgitate a lot. At this point it should possible to compile a MSM Trump tropes lexicon.
Most Jews don’t want to face the fact that they made the left impossible to deal with and won’t let the right deal with them either. They’ve completely forgotten the group for which they have the most antipathy (conservative whites) is the only group that has any respect at all for Jews and the only group that doesn’t view them as rich whites.
A curious piece indeed … Further notable quotes collated from the NYT article Steve Sailer links above, the very Jewish New York Times jibing at the allegedly ‘kosher’ president with his Chabad-Jewish son-in-law, Jewish daughter (by conversion) & Jewish grandchildren … quite a catalogue:
Jews are worldwide moving right and nationalist. Calling these movements antisemetic is a rearguard act hoping to slow the trend.
What you say seems to be true.
http://forward.com/news/353914/by-the-numbers-3-key-takeaways-from-the-2016-jewish-vote/
Jews turned out at a lower rate for Hillary Clinton in 2016 than they did for Al Gore in 2000 or Barack Obama in 2008 - only 71%. At this rate, a majority of them will vote Republican...................a mere few decades after America has become a socialist, latin-american one-party state.Replies: @Rob McX
Nationalist? Sure, but for which nation?
What you say seems to be true.
http://forward.com/news/353914/by-the-numbers-3-key-takeaways-from-the-2016-jewish-vote/
Jews turned out at a lower rate for Hillary Clinton in 2016 than they did for Al Gore in 2000 or Barack Obama in 2008 – only 71%. At this rate, a majority of them will vote Republican……………….a mere few decades after America has become a socialist, latin-american one-party state.
Who says that Frank Anthony Bruni is the author of the article in question. He might have a ghost writer. Ever think of that?
Which other NY Times columnists do you figure have Jewish ghostwriters?
I get Steve’s point, but it takes a little more than your average cognitive dissonance to posit that Trump keeps “dissing Jews” while, at the brass tacks level, he’s proven himself as servile a lapdog as any of the preceding “leaders of the free world.”
If this isn’t evident to you all, I truly pity what’s to come of you.
Going back to Ann Coulter and “How many f… Jews do these people think there are in the USA?” She asked the question during a GOP debate in 2015. No antisemitic intent, but merely an observation that many here obsess over 2 percent of the population.
And retards. And blacks. And wogs in general. And cripples.
Hey, c’mon. Somebodies went to a great deal of trouble to set them all up as Put Upon Minorities, ya know. Even, laughably, “girls,” who last I checked constituted 51% of this nation’s population.
They demand to be mollycoddled…then when you do, call it “patronizing.”
They spoil for a fight…then when you ignore them, call it “dissing.”
If you fight as they demand…it’s evidence of your imperialism/patriarchy/etc.
As for Donald Trump “dissing Jews,” that must make for some amazing holiday family dinners, eh?
My prediction is the Reform Judaism, comprising the majority of US Jews (I was raised reform) will eventually dump Israel in favor of the hard left principles Reform Judaism is so immersed in.
Israel will return the favor by legally limiting the law of Return to favor orthodox Judaism. I’m not sure which event will actually come first.
My own opinion is that the US and Israel should get rid of the co-dependent involvement with each other, and go their own ways. They should share the common interests of protecting Western civilization.
Could you provide some links? I haven’t seen this at all. The Israelis are nationalistic and hard line on immigration and traditional Judaism, but I don’t see any evidence of your assertions in other countries.
Several polls have shown UK Jews are more conservative voting than UK whites as a whole.Replies: @David
Hi Steve, I think it should be obvious by now the trend of repeating the same lie again and again,until it becomes a fact. If the lie cannot be proven, then you manufacture one, and if you’re exposed, then you try to hide it by silencing it. If this lie of “bomb threats” was done by a Caucasian, it would not be just a fact, but the responsible person would be rotting behind bars, somewhere, the MSM would have a never ending story, for a long time. Notice how the scripted media put their heads down and never repeated the story much once they found out who the racist was.
Bruni remembers well. The audience doesn’t remember, very few had a very brief exposure to the truth.. And now he’s reviving the version the cabal wants…adl, jdl, AIPAC, we po’ victims, …….
Israel will return the favor by legally limiting the law of Return to favor orthodox Judaism. I'm not sure which event will actually come first.
My own opinion is that the US and Israel should get rid of the co-dependent involvement with each other, and go their own ways. They should share the common interests of protecting Western civilization.Replies: @Lex, @lavoisier, @Lot, @Thomas
It is more likely that Israel will have to start dumping it’s Orthodox population on USA to relieve tax burden they create.
There’s the usual hate-hoax-denialism going on here. But the core of Bruni’s whine is rather clearly laid out in this short paragraph:
Of course “Bannon and his ilk” and their idea of nationalism is correct. While the Jewish/left/multi-culti/”nation of immigrants”/”coalition-of-the-fringes” version of “nationalism” Bruni advocates, where you run around ass-kissing “subgroups”, is not nationalism at all. It is anti-nationalism.
Nationalism is about what’s common to the nation–it’s people, history, heroes, traditions and culture. We have a few core national holidays–Memorial Day, July 4th and Thanksgiving. The President can go commemorate the fallen, wave the flag, give thanks and it’s for all Americans. The President properly should never be out there ass kissing any little sub-group telling them they are wonderful for being hyphenated. (And the Jews are simultaneously the most important/intelligent/successful/oppressed Americans and so demand ass-kissing pretty much 24-7-365. And if they don’t get it, it’s … anti-Semitism!)
What the President should be doing is celebrate all Americans together and–much more importantly–work for their common interests. (Build the wall. Repeal DACA–still waiting! Halt all refugee admissions. Stop all muslim immigration–send back non-citizens. Get an immigration moratorium. Etc. etc.)
What you say seems to be true.
http://forward.com/news/353914/by-the-numbers-3-key-takeaways-from-the-2016-jewish-vote/
Jews turned out at a lower rate for Hillary Clinton in 2016 than they did for Al Gore in 2000 or Barack Obama in 2008 - only 71%. At this rate, a majority of them will vote Republican...................a mere few decades after America has become a socialist, latin-american one-party state.Replies: @Rob McX
And 96.3 per cent of Israelis with a vote in the French elections voted for Macron in the final round of the presidential poll. Macron seems intent not only on keeping French borders open, but forcing countries like Poland and Hungary to succumb to the invasion too. But these things matter little when viewed from Israel.
To those of us in Northern New Jersey and New York City, we are surrounded by them.
The preference for unity (E Pluribus Unum) over diversity (division):
Bill Clinton would qualify, I think.
I honestly thought people living in that part of the country are in love with them:)
Maybe Steve can comment on this but I get the sense that the mentality behind the Jewish-American maniacal opposition to Trump actually relates to Jewish history before the Nazis. That is, that for some Jews they hear the word “Russia” and they imagine hordes of uncultured Slavs rioting in pogroms against the Jews of Eastern Europe, the grandparents and great-grandparents in their imagination. That’s the juice behind the Jewish energy looking for the Trump-Russia or Trump-Putin “connection”.
This probably has some connection to Steve’s theory of country clubs in LA, but offhand I can’t think of what it would be.
later in Russia, because the antisemitic English, French,
Spanish, Italians, and Germans expelled them, often
repeatedly. That's how Western Europe solved its Jewish
problem
I’m also getting the sense that Jews do not equal Israel, especially in the context of Donald Trump. Israeli Jews are, of necessity, very deeply concerned about a narrow set of issues. Iran, Palestine, Lebanon/Hezbollah, BDS, settlements, the democratic and demographic status of Israeli Arab citizens, etc, etc. This is “what’s good for the Jews” in Israel, and they really don’t have capability to look much deeper than that.
For Jews in America, where Judaism is often tied in pretty deep with secular Leftism, the situation is much different. They can afford to care about microaggressions this, multicultural that, and also to indulge their aesthetic revulsion against President Trump.
To a substantial extent, Trump is in the middle of an intra-Jewish Israeli-American family quarrel.
Sooner they figure that out the better.
That two percent has caused a lot of problems for this nation and the West in general.
It is not unreasonable to be disturbed by that fact and to be troubled by their destructive behaviors.
WJ:
I was (and am) surprised that Ann did not have to pay more of a penalty (ostracism, etc) for making this technically correct point. But then Ann has made so many other non/anti PC points that I suppose this particular one just flew under the radar screen. She’s quite a force of nature!
Trump is the biggest shabbos goy POTUS ever! And that is saying a lot.
Trump's rhetoric does not match his actions on the big issues. He's a faux reformer. For the Jews, supporters of the American status quo, Trump is turning out to be "business as usual" when it comes to actual action and not rhetoric.Replies: @ben tillman
That distinction goes to LBJ, and there’s no contest. His grandfather told him, “Take care of the Jews, God’s chosen people. Consider them your friends and help them any way you can.”
And that’s what he spent his life doing.
Normally, on the 50th anniversary of any event, the "mainstream media" usually writes a little "blurb" to commemorate the event--good or bad.
It is interesting to note that there was "not a peep" from our "mainstream media" about the 50th anniversary of the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5).
Gee, I wonder why?
Could it be that the "mainstream media, being OWNED by jews, did not want to commemorate this event?
Yes, how silly of me.
Which other NY Times columnists do you figure have Jewish ghostwriters?
Israel will return the favor by legally limiting the law of Return to favor orthodox Judaism. I'm not sure which event will actually come first.
My own opinion is that the US and Israel should get rid of the co-dependent involvement with each other, and go their own ways. They should share the common interests of protecting Western civilization.Replies: @Lex, @lavoisier, @Lot, @Thomas
It would be wonderful if the majority of the Jewish people tried to defend Western Civilization instead of trying to destroy it.
What would it take for such a thing to happen?
This probably has some connection to Steve's theory of country clubs in LA, but offhand I can't think of what it would be.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Thomas, @Anon 2
Putin is the Neo-Czar.
In any event, here we have Conservative or Reform Jews in NY, Phila, Washington, Miami whereever teleporting themselves back in time to assume the mantle of the victims of Slavic pogroms. Whereas in Israel you have actual immigrants and their families who were living in St Petersburg or Volgograd in 1980 who've got other fish to fry.
I think the general idea is the same, though to be fair I have really tried to connect the dots much more than that.
Trump could join his daughter, son-in-law, and grandchildren by converting to Judaism and it would be called an anti-Semitic statement by NY Times columnists.
I am skeptical of US exit poll numbers. Jews are heavily concentrated in and around NYC. The most Jewish area voted heavily for Trump. Those area and the remaining Italian areas are little islands of Trump voters in otherwise all Hillary NYC.
Several polls have shown UK Jews are more conservative voting than UK whites as a whole.
This probably has some connection to Steve's theory of country clubs in LA, but offhand I can't think of what it would be.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Thomas, @Anon 2
Most Jewish Americans think like that. During the Cold War, unless they were actually members of the Communist party, Jewish Americans constantly painted the Soviet Union as being virulently anti-Semitic, regardless of actual facts on the ground over there, and our propaganda effort just used and amplified that sentiment.
Israel will return the favor by legally limiting the law of Return to favor orthodox Judaism. I'm not sure which event will actually come first.
My own opinion is that the US and Israel should get rid of the co-dependent involvement with each other, and go their own ways. They should share the common interests of protecting Western civilization.Replies: @Lex, @lavoisier, @Lot, @Thomas
Reform Jews are already subject to legal disabilities in Israel. For immigrantion however I can’t see any chance there will be a change in policy.
For Jews in America, where Judaism is often tied in pretty deep with secular Leftism, the situation is much different. They can afford to care about microaggressions this, multicultural that, and also to indulge their aesthetic revulsion against President Trump.
To a substantial extent, Trump is in the middle of an intra-Jewish Israeli-American family quarrel.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Desiderius
aka public policy debate in America circa 2017.
For Jews in America, where Judaism is often tied in pretty deep with secular Leftism, the situation is much different. They can afford to care about microaggressions this, multicultural that, and also to indulge their aesthetic revulsion against President Trump.
To a substantial extent, Trump is in the middle of an intra-Jewish Israeli-American family quarrel.Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Desiderius
No, no I don’t believe that they can.
Sooner they figure that out the better.
Well yeah, I got that part, but I’m thinking more about how the discrimination against Jews in LA wasn’t really by the goys as much as the sophisticated German Jews being unwilling to socially associate with the fresh off the boat Latvians or Ukranians. I may be forgetting a bit here or there, but I think that was your theory.
In any event, here we have Conservative or Reform Jews in NY, Phila, Washington, Miami whereever teleporting themselves back in time to assume the mantle of the victims of Slavic pogroms. Whereas in Israel you have actual immigrants and their families who were living in St Petersburg or Volgograd in 1980 who’ve got other fish to fry.
I think the general idea is the same, though to be fair I have really tried to connect the dots much more than that.
Hoping to see you create a “Hate Hoax” tag for relevant posts.
Yes!!! The blatant ignoring of the Israeli dude who was responsible for 98% of the hate hoaxes was so disgusting in this article, and, disgusting of this author…what a jerk.
Serious “born again” Jews are difficult (my experience only) because they can never be totally honest about their feelings (about, almost anything) about their political and societal inclinations.
I have encountered so many neurotic and depressed guys to last a lifetime. I had a lot of Jewish boyfriends, back in the early/mid 80’s when religion was bs…but, still, I was never the one. But, weirdly, I saw the division growing…between classes, religion, national regions, skills, languages, etc.
Bruni has gotten increasingly creepy and so fracking annoying. Trannies and gays I am friends with, are good with Trump because he will defend them against jihadies when the time comes.
No, the Jews are unhappy that Trump, unlike all previous American
presidents, did not visit the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (1943) monument
and instead delivered his speech at the highly symbolic Warsaw
Uprising (1944) monument. The fact that Trump felt it was okay
to ignore the Jewish wishes means that something is changing.
Until recently the much larger Warsaw Uprising of 1944 against
the German occupation (which resulted in the deaths of over
200,000 people, hundreds of thousand of Polish Christians being
taken to concentration camps, and Warsaw itself systematically mined
and blowtorched – all despite the fact that in September 1944 the Germans
already knew they were losing) was safely ignored by the American
press. The historian Norman Davies has written a massive volume
about it, and more will be forthcoming
"All people are equal brothers; Brown, White, Black and Yellow. To separate peoples, colors, races, Is but an act of cheating!"They had hoped to help the Red Army capture Warsaw, but the ungrateful Soviets stopped and waited.
Israel will return the favor by legally limiting the law of Return to favor orthodox Judaism. I'm not sure which event will actually come first.
My own opinion is that the US and Israel should get rid of the co-dependent involvement with each other, and go their own ways. They should share the common interests of protecting Western civilization.Replies: @Lex, @lavoisier, @Lot, @Thomas
I wouldn’t be surprised. I’ve heard Reform Judaism mocked as being “the Democratic Party with holidays.” I’ve seen though some ostensibly “Reform” Jews I know getting more and more observant and strict over the years, while still calling themselves “Reform.” “Reformodox,” in other words.
Maybe related: Israel Suspends Plan for Egalitarian [Non-Orthodox] Prayer Area at Western Wall, New York Times, June 25, 2017, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/world/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-western-wall-non-orthodox-jews.html?_r=0
This probably has some connection to Steve's theory of country clubs in LA, but offhand I can't think of what it would be.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Thomas, @Anon 2
John Derbyshire has commented on it a little without coming to any conclusion I think, but most of the really passionate energy I’ve seen around “Russiagate” has been from Jews. Some of that is just Jews being well-represented among left-wing Democrats as well as neo-cons hoping for another cold war. But I can’t help but agree that there does seem to be some deeper level Russophobia involved.
This probably has some connection to Steve's theory of country clubs in LA, but offhand I can't think of what it would be.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan, @Thomas, @Anon 2
Remember, Jews only ended up in 16th century Poland, and
later in Russia, because the antisemitic English, French,
Spanish, Italians, and Germans expelled them, often
repeatedly. That’s how Western Europe solved its Jewish
problem
Yes, I heard about. It supposedly is about Jewish property worth $65 billions that Poland is unwilling to pay to Jewish international organizations.
Israel Singer is no more in WJC. “On 14 March 2007 Singer was forced to resign from most official functions by the President of World Jewish Congress, Edgar M. Bronfman as a result of alleged misappropriation of financial resources.”
The suit filed by Bronfman in a New York court alleges that Singer failed to pay back more than $500,000 in personal loans that triggered an investigation by the New York State Attorney General’s Office into the WJC’s finances in 2004.
http://www.jpost.com/Cafe-Oleh/Ask-The-Expert/Bronfman-WJC-file-suits-against-ex-chairman-Israel-Singer
Some say that getting Eliot Spitzer in 2008 was a pay back for going after WJC and Singer.
often hurriedly, this may also explain some of the
Jewish anti-Russian and anti-Ukrainian animus.
Of course, the Polish population also lost billions when
in 1945 they withdrew from western Ukraine, parts
of Belarus and Lithuania, and that's not counting
the massive destruction and theft of property during WW I
and WW II, and how do you compensate for the loss
of life? Christians generally deal with such matters
using the principle of forgiveness which allows us
not to focus too much on the past
What’s happening is very interesting, and goes beyond
the Jewish question: the Jews in academia, and not
only in science departments, are being massively displaced
by the East Indians and the Chinese. By importing millions
of Asians we are exacerbating the problem of “elite over-
production,” that was first stressed by Peter Turchin. He said,
“Elite overproduction generally leads to more intra-elite
competition that gradually undermines the spirit of
cooperation … (and results) in a large class of disgruntled
elite-wannabes, often well-educated and highly capable,
that have been denied access to elite positions.”
Two examples: (Jewish) Senator Barbara Boxer replaced by
(multiracial) Kamala Harris, long-time (Jewish) SoCal Westside
congressman Henry Waxman replaced by (Chinese) Ted Lieu.
In other words, too many lawyers, doctors, economists,
bankers, finance specialists, politicians, management types,
and professors, destabilize societies. As the elite universities
have not increased the size of their freshman classes in decades,
and California, with 40 million people, still only has 2 senators,
to give a couple of examples, Turchin predicts very turbulent
times ahead for the United States. Too many people’s ambitions
are being actively frustrated.
The suit filed by Bronfman in a New York court alleges that Singer failed to pay back more than $500,000 in personal loans that triggered an investigation by the New York State Attorney General's Office into the WJC's finances in 2004.
http://www.jpost.com/Cafe-Oleh/Ask-The-Expert/Bronfman-WJC-file-suits-against-ex-chairman-Israel-Singer
Some say that getting Eliot Spitzer in 2008 was a pay back for going after WJC and Singer.Replies: @Anon 2
Since millions of Jews left Russia and Ukraine,
often hurriedly, this may also explain some of the
Jewish anti-Russian and anti-Ukrainian animus.
Of course, the Polish population also lost billions when
in 1945 they withdrew from western Ukraine, parts
of Belarus and Lithuania, and that’s not counting
the massive destruction and theft of property during WW I
and WW II, and how do you compensate for the loss
of life? Christians generally deal with such matters
using the principle of forgiveness which allows us
not to focus too much on the past
They would have preferred to vote for Fillon, though.
Not so much concepts as heuristics – mental shortcuts, rules of thumb, generalisations, The application of Occam’s razor and yes of stereotypes. These are useful.
The point being that if one’s world view is underpinned by being attached to, and likely be keen to ostentatiously be seen to hold to PC goodthink, to avoid noticing things; one will not model the world as it is and will not spot ‘tells’ or patterns. The hate hoax thing is a good example.
Goodthink combined with willful un noticing causes excessive naive credulity to manifest. Combine this with the desire to punt a supporting narrative and a bit of the all too common Jewish ethnocentrism for me but not for thee…..and we get this sort of thing, and worse.
Several polls have shown UK Jews are more conservative voting than UK whites as a whole.Replies: @David
So you have no evidence at all for your assertion of a trend. I wonder how you think of all these baseless assertions. You’re like an artist.
And that's what he spent his life doing.Replies: @anarchyst
LBJ was in bed with Israel and deliberately sacrificed the USS Liberty (GTR-5)–a Israeli “false flag” operation that failed, but was successfully whitewashed by LBJ, John McCain’s “daddy” admiral and others. Even after refusing help for the stricken ship, LBJ and Israel got away with murder.
Normally, on the 50th anniversary of any event, the “mainstream media” usually writes a little “blurb” to commemorate the event–good or bad.
It is interesting to note that there was “not a peep” from our “mainstream media” about the 50th anniversary of the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5).
Gee, I wonder why?
Could it be that the “mainstream media, being OWNED by jews, did not want to commemorate this event?
Jews are more likely to ally themselves with moslems, as their belief systems are remarkably similar. One could argue that Islam is an arabacized form of judaism. Both belief systems believe in their own particular brand of supremacy, ostracizing and marginalizing “outsiders”. If “push comes to shove jews will embrace moslems over western culture.
I think that the NYT article was meant as a veiled “reminder” to Trump that he toe the line when it comes to subservience to these extremely powerful and influential people. Since the idea that Trump is “dissing” Jews is so preposterous on its face I can’t imagine what other reason why the article appeared.
Bill did not get along well with Netanyahu. Bibi much prefers Trump/Kushner.
His cabinet and equivalent appointments had a higher percentage of Jews (including by ancestry) than previous or subsequent administrations, I think, plus both of his Supreme Court appointments.
presidents, did not visit the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (1943) monument
and instead delivered his speech at the highly symbolic Warsaw
Uprising (1944) monument. The fact that Trump felt it was okay
to ignore the Jewish wishes means that something is changing.
Until recently the much larger Warsaw Uprising of 1944 against
the German occupation (which resulted in the deaths of over
200,000 people, hundreds of thousand of Polish Christians being
taken to concentration camps, and Warsaw itself systematically mined
and blowtorched - all despite the fact that in September 1944 the Germans
already knew they were losing) was safely ignored by the American
press. The historian Norman Davies has written a massive volume
about it, and more will be forthcomingReplies: @Hippopotamusdrome
Kneel before ŻOB:
“All people are equal brothers; Brown, White, Black and Yellow. To separate peoples, colors, races, Is but an act of cheating!”
They had hoped to help the Red Army capture Warsaw, but the ungrateful Soviets stopped and waited.
Is he the only one who is not? We have more Zionist Goys, than Jews!! Being Jewish is not a crime….
Ha! I had never heard that. Really a good one.
Rather as the Church of England has long been referred to as “the Tory party at prayer”. Nowadays they’re walking over the cliff in lockstep.
Jew its not equal to SEMITE! Anti-Semitic includes anti-arabs, and anti-palestinians, etc. Are they not semites as well? so STOP. Calling Judaism as Semitic, its equivalent of calling ‘whites’ the European Anglo Saxons, and leaving other whites out of the equation. So then European whites, Australians, New Zelands, Rusians, etc. are not whites. Equally, Unless you are anti middle east, then you are not antisemitic, you are anti Judaic, CHECK!!
To be fair, we don’t like them either.
The conflict between Donald Trump and the New York/Hollywood/CNN/Harvard and Yale Jewish elite is very similar, I’d say identical to the situation of non Sicilian Italian ethnics who were/are players in Mafia Organized crime, but in the Godfather and in real life.
In the Godfather world and pretty much in real life the top of the American Mafia is Sicilian Italian American – everybody in the know knows this.
But there are some non Sicilian Italians in and around the Mafia.
Tom Hagen is Irish ethnic, adopted in to the Corleone family.
Moe Green and Hyman Roth
In real life lots of New York City Jewish gangsters had their own Jewish gangs like Murder inc but most became incorporated with Italian Mafia families – Myer Lansky, Bugsy Siegel etc
One Irish Boston gangster Whitey Bolger used his Southie Irish connections in the FBI to have the feds spend all their attention going after Italian gangsters in Boston when it was he White Bulger and his Irish gang that was doing the most murder, mayhem, drug dealing etc.
So the current situation with Trump and the American Jews is that the Jews consider Donald Trump as once a non Jewish player in the New York real estate, sports and media elite/New York business mafia – he was accepted and had good relations with the Jews.
But somehow this non Jewish NY player became President of the United States and became the champion of Red State White working folks, traditional enemies of NY/Hollywood/Harvard Jewish elites.
President Trump isn’t persecuting American Jews – or being anti Israel, far from it, he’s appointing more Goldman Sachs Jews to power positions and he’s the most pro Israel President yet.
But, still Trump has really enraged the American Jewish elite, because he isn’t kissing their rings, he’s not bowing down to their power – it’s like some Irish guy or Moe Green getting out of line with the Italian Mafia and acting like he’s the biggest, big shot.
So far, I haven’t seen a single dog whistle from President Trump that he blames the fake news anti Trump CNN, NY Daily News, Hollywood celebrity media on Jewish media mafia.
But the Jewish media mafia owners suspect he knows and again, he’s not showing proper respect for the Jewish Media mafia elite. He’s getting out of line.
Of course we’re enjoying this.