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  1. And the answer is obvious–wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That’s how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @NOTA

    "And the answer is obvious–wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That’s how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job."


    -Sure, for those who believe in truth, justice and the American way. But we're talking about leftist NY Times writers here. Those are all reasons they want to get rid of him, not things they believe in.

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @NOTA

    The other alternative is that the Dems could recapture the House and Senate in 2018 and inpeach Trump in 2019. I can't see that happening (the recapturing part, not the impeachment part). Either way, it sounds like even 2019 is too long to wait for these blowhards. In which case, they are banging their head against a wall, because there is no way Trump will be impeached now. There are enough suspect Republican Senators like McCain and Graham that might want him gone. But Articles of Impeachment would have to be brought by the House, and there is no way they can convince enough Republican Congressmen to commit political suicide in 2018 to get that done.

    , @Jefferson
    @NOTA

    "And the answer is obvious–wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That’s how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job."

    Nicholas Kristof is talking about wanting a 1963 Dallas scenario for Donald J. Trump, wink wink. Read between the lines man.

  2. Generally the American way is to wait four years and try again. Somehow I don’t think that suggestion will be taken.

    • Replies: @Rod1963
    @Chase

    It's quite clear the establishment wants Trump gone ASAP and damn the consequences.

    That said I understand why they're so open about it. The establishment is betting the white working and middle-class will roll over and do nothing.

    That's one hell of a wager. Because the lower class whites won't just see it as a assassination or impeachment but the establishment/cloud people telling them they aren't allowed to have a say in the way things are run.

    It's not a bet I want to make, especially given that the establishment has been dead wrong about the public response to Trump from day one. I can see it all going pear shaped for them real fast.

    , @Random Dude on the Internet
    @Chase

    They are definitely trying to prime the pump for a color revolution style coup. They forget that this isn't Europe and the party that is in power has dozens of millions of well armed supporters who aren't going to sit idly by while petulant leftists and angry illegal immigrants try to overthrow their government. George Soros seems to forget about this bit of political calculus. I think he just assumes to keep having enough riots until the other side just concedes, which is how they seem to do things in Europe.

    This is why the GOP will win the 2018 midterms: any goodwill the Democrats had with moderates and independents is quickly being burned through. These people prize stability above all else (aka the "MUH 401K" factor) and the Democrats throwing a perpetual fit is rubbing John and Jane Normie the wrong way even if they voted for Clinton or Johnson in 2016. Add in some anti-white DNC leadership and you got guaranteed gains by the GOP in 2018. That is good news because then John McCain and Lindsey Graham lose all of their power and can be ignored.

    Replies: @Pericles

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Chase

    Didn't Ukraine's President Yanukovych have only about a year left in office but Vicky Nuland and the colour revolution just couldn't wait? Can the people who find faraway regimes intolerable be able to restrain themselves at home? I don't think so. The only thing that can stop them is the cooler heads around them.

    If the next six months are a continuation of the last six months, then the US could easily find itself in a Euromaidan mess:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_presidential_election,_2010

    Replies: @David

  3. To be fair, Trump is kind of doing the same to them

    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    @IHTG

    An important distinction is that we can't vote out the media. Unlike Trump, the media is not answerable to the people. Even if people won't purchase the products of the media, they can still find sympathetic billionaires like Carlos Slim to keep them in business.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Mr. Anon
    @IHTG


    To be fair, Trump is kind of doing the same to them
     
    No, that is not fair, and he is not doing that to them. He is not calling for them to be abolished, nor is he supressing them.

    Freedom of the Press does not mean they have the privelege of being exempt from criticism. Freedom of the Press does not mean that any particular press outlet has any particular right to be called on at a press conference.
  4. The easiest way to escape the man is of course to leave. Sacred and holy immigration to diverse and vibrant places without white privilege issues a clarion call to all this lot. I hear Libya has barely any restrictions at all on it’s borders, no Christianity to speak of, and not many Europeans at all – a veritable Paradise for these people! Yet they will not leave. Not even the ones who promised to (Dunham, Cyrus, Handler, et al.).

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Autochthon

    The one question that they can't answer: Why do all of their beloved people of color want to come to the racist, misogynist, fascist hellhole that they hate so much?

  5. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

  6. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I was listening to Sally Quinn on a radio program, and she says that everyone in DC is saying the Russians have something on him. She also says there are whispers about impeachment.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    the media talk about the hacking but ignore the information that was hacked

    why won't any of them report that Clinton knew Saudi Arabia financed Isis?

    or that the CIA supplied Isis with MANPADs

  7. Better question: “How do we get rid of a troublesome press?”

    • Agree: San Fernando Curt
    • Replies: @e
    @Buffalo Joe

    Yes, how to destroy the BIG ONE? Oh, and Bezos' CIA rag, too?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buffalo Joe

    To take your question seriously, it should be easy enough, right? Steve Bannon can arrange to bring the bloggers into the front rows in the press conferences (Glenn Reynolds over here, Sailer to the left of him, Alex Jones to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with Mr. PeakStupidity, in the 2nd row, beside Derbyshire and Brimelow, with Ron Unz in the 2nd row behind Fred Reed (hey Fred, take off that damn urban sombrero, I can't see jack!). Really, there is no constitutional reason these NYT/WaPo people have to even be let in.

    Now, "the people" would have to do our part - not many want to really make any sacrifice aside from taking one hour in 4 years to vote. It's not enough - one of the easiest things you can do is just get rid of your TV, or keep it as a monitor (for internet, DVD's Roku, all that) but cut the cable off - hit them where it hurts!

    Nobody pay any subscription money of any kind for web access to any of the LP (Lyin' Press, fka MSM) except for just the one guy who reads it anyway, our illustrious host. He can continue to show us what kind of crap is in there once a day, and 6 ways from on Sunday.

    Blow up your TV (and eat a lot of peaches)!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofvfVPFbiM

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Olorin
    @Buffalo Joe

    Sargon of Akkad riffed on this, 2/17:

    The Enemy of the People
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ulkykn7jc

    Too long, as usual...but the Alexa charts showing various MSM deflating like a Jell-o mold on the back seat in July are nice. Starting at about 9:15. Ensuing discussion suggests how bad the actual eyeball situation is for the legacy media.

  8. The coining of the term “Fake News” by the leftist establishment was a more horrific blunder than they even realize yet.
    Trump and the right will likely soon move beyond excoriating just Fake News and use the Fake descriptor to delegitimize, or at least impugn, all of the other phony stuff in the left’s arsenal:

    Fake Education—The indoctrination that passes itself off as a real education that teaches man important truths.

    Fake Entertainment—The propaganda, like female Ghostbusters or Modern Family, that pretends to be actual entertainment.

    Fake Art—The modern monstrosities that debase and revolt man instead of uplift him like true art.

    Fake Intelligence—”The election was hacked by Muh Russians.”

    Fake Work—The worthless jobs that our economy has become saturated with. See affirmative action jobs, HR cat-lady workers, and all the time wasting activities implemented by managers and regulators for CYA purposes.

    One could go on and on in this vein.

    • Replies: @Robert Weissberg
    @wiseguy

    Great insights. I live in NYC and have noticed a thriving market in fakes. Many look just like fakes but people buy them anyhow. Perhaps this is post-modern consumerism--no distinction between fake and real.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    , @Rifleman
    @wiseguy


    The coining of the term “Fake News” by the leftist establishment was a more horrific blunder than they even realize yet.
     
    Fake History - when "Hidden Figures" and cast win Oscars for their "black women pioneer the Space age" movie.
  9. We can be thankful that the NYT doesn’t have among its staff four experienced killers itching to commit murder, and that our Thomas Beckett is somewhat better protected than the original.

  10. They have a template with the removal from office of President Rousseff in Brazil last year. She probably also went because she was seen as too close to Russia.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @eD

    Dilma's predecessor benefited from a global commodity boom. When the tide receded, Brazil had its worst recession in decades. And Dilma was too much of a lefty ideologue to enact any pro-growth reforms. That's probably the real reason she was impeached. That she got implicated in the big corruption scandal was a plus. Those conditions don't apply here now.

  11. Get rid of the people who voted for him.

    Time for deploracide.

    Drain the Ocean to save the Swamp.

  12. Mr. Kristof fully intending to wash his hands in innocence WTSHTF, I suppose.

  13. Does Pinch have any kids?

  14. Neocons like Kristof are totally lacking in self awareness. It was the failure of neocon foreign policy and neoliberal economic policy that led to Trump. Kristof and company should be careful what they wish for.

  15. If Trump is bumped off, there’ll be a longer list of suspects than for JFK. At any event, I suggest he spend the Ides of March (the 15th) safely ensconced, i.e., alone, in Trump Tower.

  16. Trump said the NYT is an enemy of the American people. That’s more truth than I got from Clinton, Bush and Obama combined over 24 years.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @David Allan coe
    @WorkingClass

    So true, the press is controlled by leftist globalist who seek to destroy america.

  17. They can find Trump guilty of violating the zero amendment…

  18. They’re really playing this up. It’s the most hilarious thing in the world to see them go nuts about Trump repeating Bill Clinton’s campaign. It’s not what he’s saying, it’s how he’s saying it that is most triggering to them. (Normies falling for the propaganda, not the neo-cons) Maybe we can send them some videos of Trump talking in different accents?

  19. Awhile ago you wrote that it almost seems media is urging all unstable Travis Bickles out there to act on any homicidal urges they may have. Violence, especially ultimate, platium violence like presidential assassinations, will not only make one famous – but sexy/famous. Killer Elvis. When killing Nazis of course. We social sages will point them out.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @San Fernando Curt

    I doubt it will be a Travis Bickle, an unconnected, discontented malcontent. (Any "solution" endorsed by Kristoff may appear like that is what happened, but any such "solution" will have professionals, not Travis Bickle, at the heart of it.)

    If Trump does not move us towards a second Cold War with Russia fast enough for the Deep State, then steps may be taken, but that won't be for awhile.

    Anyway, all kinds of pressure will be placed on Trump in a variety of ways to bring us to a war-footing with Russia for a long time. Only if he is super-resistant to any of that will it then move to the next stage.

  20. Larry Tribe tells Kristoff that Congress can employ the 25th amendment to kick him out for being unfit. Of course,Tribe is the guy who said Obama was the most brilliant student he ever had,so…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Father O'Hara

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-tribe-obama-theory-of-the-curvature-of-constitutional-space-what-lawyers-can-learn-from-modern-physics/

  21. With Trump foolishly making the GOP-approved Pence his replacement any fakenewsed impeachable scandal will do. Probably something bout muh Russians.

  22. Obvious reference to assassination. The Secret Service should show up at his door. He’d have column material for weeks!

  23. Lynch Trump

    https://www.facebook.com/RTvids/videos/1472443779432537/?pnref=story.unseen-section

    Isn’t pinata ‘triggering’ because it’s about lynching?

  24. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Trump still has significant political support, so the obstacles are gargantuan.”

    D(*&^n! They allow just anything these days, didn’t the deplorables get the memo?

    “The 25th Amendment route is to be used when a president is “unable” to carry out his duties…”

    “I asked Laurence Tribe, the Harvard professor of constitutional law… could mean not just physical incapacity, but also mental instability…”

    “Tribe said that he believed Section 4 could be used…”

    “…removal may be a liberal fantasy.”

    Could well be, could well be.

    “Lots of things about Donald Trump’s election and early presidency have been shocking. Why should it stop now?”

    Of course, maybe this guy would be happier somewhere more congenial to him than the US. I hear millions of people move around the world these days.

  25. @Buffalo Joe
    Better question: "How do we get rid of a troublesome press?"

    Replies: @e, @Achmed E. Newman, @Olorin

    Yes, how to destroy the BIG ONE? Oh, and Bezos’ CIA rag, too?

  26. Best NYT headline interpretation ever!

  27. @Buffalo Joe
    Better question: "How do we get rid of a troublesome press?"

    Replies: @e, @Achmed E. Newman, @Olorin

    To take your question seriously, it should be easy enough, right? Steve Bannon can arrange to bring the bloggers into the front rows in the press conferences (Glenn Reynolds over here, Sailer to the left of him, Alex Jones to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with Mr. PeakStupidity, in the 2nd row, beside Derbyshire and Brimelow, with Ron Unz in the 2nd row behind Fred Reed (hey Fred, take off that damn urban sombrero, I can’t see jack!). Really, there is no constitutional reason these NYT/WaPo people have to even be let in.

    Now, “the people” would have to do our part – not many want to really make any sacrifice aside from taking one hour in 4 years to vote. It’s not enough – one of the easiest things you can do is just get rid of your TV, or keep it as a monitor (for internet, DVD’s Roku, all that) but cut the cable off – hit them where it hurts!

    Nobody pay any subscription money of any kind for web access to any of the LP (Lyin’ Press, fka MSM) except for just the one guy who reads it anyway, our illustrious host. He can continue to show us what kind of crap is in there once a day, and 6 ways from on Sunday.

    Blow up your TV (and eat a lot of peaches)!

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Achmed, I personally refuse to click on any NYT or WaPo links. It's a start.

  28. I don’t mind any method that is constitutional. Looks like his voters wanted an asshole but got a turd instead.

  29. Lucky for the New York Times, Trump is a straight white cismale Christian, or Kristof’s piece would be racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, and/or Islamophobic.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @PapayaSF

    You left out the NYT's go-to explanation for, well, .. everything.
    "Antisemitic".

  30. @Chase
    Generally the American way is to wait four years and try again. Somehow I don't think that suggestion will be taken.

    Replies: @Rod1963, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Cagey Beast

    It’s quite clear the establishment wants Trump gone ASAP and damn the consequences.

    That said I understand why they’re so open about it. The establishment is betting the white working and middle-class will roll over and do nothing.

    That’s one hell of a wager. Because the lower class whites won’t just see it as a assassination or impeachment but the establishment/cloud people telling them they aren’t allowed to have a say in the way things are run.

    It’s not a bet I want to make, especially given that the establishment has been dead wrong about the public response to Trump from day one. I can see it all going pear shaped for them real fast.

  31. We’ll know whom to hit if anything happens to President Trump.

  32. “Who Will Rid Me of This Tiresome Carlos Slim group blog”

  33. The democrats are in a position to get clobbered at mid terms. Investigate voter fraud and then look at the seats up for grabs. Repubs are pretty safe except for nevada, but if you crack down on illegals there it can tilt more repub. Dems have to defend seats in indiana, ohio, penn, florida, pa, mi, wi, nd, mt, wv, and mo.

  34. • Replies: @donut
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwPRH_u2rl8

    Replies: @neutral, @donut

    , @AndrewR
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    PewDiePie did nothing wrong.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  35. Everyone agrees that a press controlled by the government is bad. What about a government controlled by the press – Mossberg

  36. LoL @ liberals fighting to remove Trump. Do they have any idea who Mike Pence is? Goodbye all forms of welfare, goodbye “LGBT” “rights,” goodbye Roe V. Wade, goodbye remaining jobs that haven’t been outsourced yet, hello bigass wars in the Middle East maybe Russia too. Pence would basically get to rule as a dictator with heavy Republican majorities marching in lockstep with his evangelical-libertarian neocon policies. But you’ll get your precious immigrants! Plenty of them when they pass “immigration reform” and amnesty the 40 million and up the greencards to 5 million a year and quadruple H1B visas. That’s all that matters, right!?

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @Amasius

    LoL @ liberals fighting to remove Trump. Do they have any idea who Mike Pence is? Goodbye all forms of welfare, goodbye “LGBT” “rights,” goodbye Roe V. Wade,

    Goodbye welfare, gay rights, and abortion?

    Not hardly.

    Gay marriage isn't going anywhere, let alone "gay rights." Nor is abortion. Those aren't going to happen.

    And welfare? Evangelicals don't want to cut welfare. For one thing, that's "racist." For another, it's not "pro-life." As Ralph Reed explained 20 years ago when he ran the Christian Coalition, Christians must oppose welfare cutbacks because if government reduces the amount of money a woman receives for having a bastard, that would lead to more abortions.

    , @MusicalE
    @Amasius

    I agree with this, I am not a Trump fan, but Pence would be 100% worst. I come to the point that I really don't care anymore. If Trump gets impeached as my fellow liberals want, the things that you wrote are going to come to pass. When I get calls to resist when we going to war with Russia and the draft gets imposed I am just going to laugh.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  37. Trump won, but “the regime” still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically “get rid of” them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.

    https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/832590618027102208

    • Replies: @Patrick Harris
    @Hail

    Why does the cartoonist have to ruin a perfectly cogent point with references to "Satanists" and "Illuminati"?

    , @Lurker
    @Hail


    Trump won, but “the regime” still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.
     
    Exactly analogous to the Brexit situation here. We won the vote but "the regime” holds all the formal power as well as much of the informal.
    , @snorlax
    @Hail

    Kissinger, the FBI and the CFR all lean pro-Trump.

    ("Illuminati?" Seriously?)

    Replies: @Autochthon

    , @wren
    @Hail

    I have been wondering about all these leaks, and zerohedge had a post today that connected the dots and finally made a lot of sense to me.

    Two weeks before Trump came in Obama made the NSA's info available to all the various letter and deep state agencies, ostensibly not to miss any terror related info. In reality, it was to release any and all spying on Trump folks in untraceable form.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/jay-sekulow-obama-should-be-held-accountable-soft-coup-attempt-against-trump

    , @ben tillman
    @Hail


    Trump won, but “the regime” still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically “get rid of” them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.
     

    "Aristicrcay" is government by the best. Perhaps "kakistocracy" is the word you're looking for.

    Kakistocracy is government by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens.

  38. Kristof is Mr Hyde to John Derbyshire’s Dr Jekyll. He was brought up on a sheep farm in Northampton… er Oregon. He is married to a Chinese woman and writes for the Unz Review…. er NYT. He is a male feminist.( Not our John, who would willingly repeal Female Voting )
    Let’s hope his balls drop off before he tries to punch Richard Spencer or some other “alt-righter” like yourself, Mr Steve.

  39. > How Can We Get Rid of Trump?

    On January 20, 2025

    • Replies: @Parsifal
    @Random Dude on the Internet

    Once Trump gets Congressional supermajority and enough states legislatures in 2020 the 22nd amendment will be repealed.

    Replies: @Anon

  40. @Chase
    Generally the American way is to wait four years and try again. Somehow I don't think that suggestion will be taken.

    Replies: @Rod1963, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Cagey Beast

    They are definitely trying to prime the pump for a color revolution style coup. They forget that this isn’t Europe and the party that is in power has dozens of millions of well armed supporters who aren’t going to sit idly by while petulant leftists and angry illegal immigrants try to overthrow their government. George Soros seems to forget about this bit of political calculus. I think he just assumes to keep having enough riots until the other side just concedes, which is how they seem to do things in Europe.

    This is why the GOP will win the 2018 midterms: any goodwill the Democrats had with moderates and independents is quickly being burned through. These people prize stability above all else (aka the “MUH 401K” factor) and the Democrats throwing a perpetual fit is rubbing John and Jane Normie the wrong way even if they voted for Clinton or Johnson in 2016. Add in some anti-white DNC leadership and you got guaranteed gains by the GOP in 2018. That is good news because then John McCain and Lindsey Graham lose all of their power and can be ignored.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Random Dude on the Internet

    The Rainbow Revolution.

  41. We have a pretty damned serious problem in this country.

    The “elites” are 100% against Trump. Normally, only someone from the elite class is allowed to win.

    Trump only won because the elites are 100% against the American people, too. (When you step back and consider that the previous president of the United States actively sided with foreigners who committed the crime of illegal entry instead of enforcing U.S. immigration law — to the point of bringing them to the State of the Union Address — that’s pretty bad.)

    The elites are hell-bent on taking Trump out. And they’re capable of doing it. The problem facing Trump is that in order to survive, he’s going to need to play just as dirty as they do — in other words, by insisting that Trump is a “fascist,” the elites are going to box him in into a corner where he’s actually going to have to become one in order to survive the endless plots against him.

    Trump did the right thing by holding a populist rally in Florida — but that’s all he’s got for support. The problem with populism is that common people don’t control the institutions of the state, so when push comes to shove their influence is pretty limited — unless they take to the streets and instill fear in the hearts of the elites. That’s the primary technique of fascism. I don’t see that happening yet, but it’s pretty hard to see Trump surviving four years unless he can get some key institutions on his side (first and foremost the Republican Party.

    Failing that, it’s going to end up in the streets.

    Not a good scene at all.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Dr. X

    Most important thing to control is the army. Most of the ranks are already pro-Trump, and getting Trump's picks in at the top will solidify control there. Second most important thing is the CIA and intelligence community. There's where the big fight is going to be fought. Third is the FBI, and we can't do a thing about Comey until his term is up, but there are people below Comey who support Trump. We can probably wait on them until Comey's term is up. Tillerson is already cleaning house at State. From there, it's lesser agencies like the EPA, Education, etc., which are easier targets. If we can get over the hump of the CIA-intelligence communities, it's only a matter of time before we have the whole government. I don't think the intelligence community realizes this is a fight they can't win. You cannot fight your own incoming president like this when he has the power to hire, fire, and prosecute you.

  42. Proof positive that Kristof does know that he looks like a poodle.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @Glossy

    As Upton Sinclair said: " It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. "
    Or it could be, Kristof even believes the propaganda he is spewing forth. As both his parents were long time professors at Portland State University, little better than UCB, it's likely he was indoctrinated from an early age.

  43. NYT should already know the answer: Use its choke point power to peddle eliminationism, and if it works as intended, use its choke point power to imply that he had it coming.

  44. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The term ‘deep state’ was almost never used in political discourse.

    But it is being used more and more often. I wonder what would happen if Trump were to mutter those two words. It will more incendiary than him calling out ‘fake news’.

    Given the near-pornographic nature of this not-so-hidden-power controlled by perverts and degenerates, maybe it ought to be called DEEP THROAT STATE.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    When did I start using the term "deep state?"

    When I got back from Turkey in 2009?

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/06/deep-state.html

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Bill P

  45. “And what does it say about a presidency that, just one month into it, we’re already discussing whether it can be ended early?”

    We? Who’s we, uh, wh0 are you again?

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Flavius

    Maybe he's using the "royal We", as all queens do.

  46. It was accidental, but Spiro Agnew resigned before Nixon. Agnew had been Nixon’s attack dog so, in the liberal mind, he was ‘worse’ than Nixon. No sense in driving Nixon from office only to have him replaced by a shiny new Agnew.

    Pence, while a more conventional politician than Trump, is popular with Trump’s deplorables so, even if it were possible to drive Trump from office, would the liberals really be better off with a shiny new President Pence?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @unit472

    This deplorable thinks Pence is deplorable. As much as I have grown to loathe Trump, the thought of President Pence is very unpleasant.

    , @Das
    @unit472

    Pence is a terrible politician. The reason he joined the Trump ticket when so many Republicans were shunning Trump is that it looked like he would lose reelection in *Indiana*, so he had nothing to lose even if the Trump ticket lost.

    Trump won the election because he won a large number of people who voted for Obama twice in the key Midwestern battleground states. I wouldn't count on Obama/Trump voters going for Pence.

    I would say that there is zero chance of the GOP dumping Trump and replacing him with Pence, but this is the same party that after its 2012 defeat decided that its political comeback lay in massively increasing Hispanic immigration and nominating Marco Rubio.

    , @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @unit472


    Pence, while a more conventional politician than Trump, is popular with Trump’s deplorables so, even if it were possible to drive Trump from office, would the liberals really be better off with a shiny new President Pence?
     
    Yes, they'd be far better off. Pence is a hard-core evangelical. They may hate abortion and gay marriage, but evangelicals have bought into much of the radical leftist agenda, especially on racial matters. Millions of them can still think halfway straight, but there are also millions who believe that "racism" is pretty close to being the unpardonable sin, that there are absolutely no meaningful differences between any races/ethnic groups because we're all descended from Adam and Even, and that it's racist to want to restrict immigration in any way. White Christians have a holy obligation to turn America into a Third World country because muh Good Samaritan.

    Of course, being Israel Firsters, their compassion has some limits, and most of them not only oppose immigration from Muslim countries, they're also gung-ho for invading whatever brown country Israel tells us to.

    So, yeah, Pence might bitch about gay marriage and trannies in the bathroom, but he'd do nothing to slow down legal or illegal immigration, and would likely work to increase legal immigration, he'd give us amnesty if Congress cooperated, and he'd continue taking our military marching orders from Tel Aviv.

    Leftists would much prefer Pence to Trump.
  47. I do wonder where this all ends.

    On the one hand, the left and the media have gone increasingly crazy since Trump’s inauguration.

    On the other hand, Trump, who seemed at the very beginning somewhat humbled by his rise to the Presidency and what it represents, seems now more and more comfortable and even emboldened by the power of the office. I think his performance in his most recent press conference is a sign of that. In addition, he seems to be getting some better sense of the operating constraints of a President.

    I think Trump’s self-confidence in the role of the Presidency is just too much for the press to take — especially since he is so openly contemptuous of them. On some level, I’m sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves. They know how they’ve tossed out all journalistic principle. Being accused by the most powerful man in the world of ginning up Fake News is causing an internal breakdown.

    Everything is getting worse in terms of polarization. But where does it end? How does it resolve itself?

    As the saying goes, trends that can’t continue, won’t. I’m just not sure where we’ll be when it stops.

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches. They will be denounced, of course, but others will take heart from their decision and do the same. It will help that this will also be a very good career move at a certain point, because it will give them both an audience in the public and greater access in the Trump administration.

    I wouldn’t hazard a guess, though, as to how long it will take for that to happen.

    • Replies: @TangoMan
    @candid_observer

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches

    This runs into the problem of a "responsible press" being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

    In one respect the media is actually responding to, rather than entirely creating, a crazy demographic.

    Two questions come to mind. One, even if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this if they've spent their entire career not doing this and is simply uttering a mea culpa enough to get people to trust them? Two, even if they pull of the challenges just mentioned, how large of a market is there for them and can they make that market pay more than the existing market?

    Sometimes the "runaway train" model is actually the best model. I'm not sure that the media, once they've checked into the Hotel California can actually check out.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Expletive Deleted, @Achmed E. Newman, @AndrewR

    , @Sandmich
    @candid_observer

    We're taking about the crew that still has it in for W; even if Trump is in the best of health, I don't think he'll live long enough to see the press get over themselves (now that I think of it, I don't know if any of us will live that long).

    , @Glossy
    @candid_observer

    On some level, I’m sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves.

    I don't think so. Some must be aware of some of the dishonesty by their side, but they think it's for a good cause and that Trump is more dishonest than they are anyway. For the record, I think that the media is more dishonest.

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches.

    That's not going to happen. As the right is getting rightier, the left is getting leftier. If Trump completes his term, the media will hate him even more at the end than they do now.

    , @SnakeEyes
    @candid_observer

    I too have been wondering where this POTUS-media hate fest will end. On the one hand, I think the media have overplayed their hand because they now plainly are not objective observers and reporters of public affairs. Personally, I have never considered the media to be neutral or disinterested, but until very recently they could keep up the pretense of objectivity which gave them influence and the ability to control the narrative.

    Since late in the election cycle, they have seemed unable to restrain themselves. They seem to have concluded that Trump won the election because they treated him like a regular, legitimate candidate (they did not) and so they resolved to become adversarial. But by doing so, they forfeited their pretense of objectivity. I think the media believe that they can persuade the electorate as a whole that Trump is not legitimate, suffers "incapacity" or is just plain crazy. It's the ultimate double-down.

    Is it working? I can't tell because I do not respect the media so I find their narrative unpersuasive. We know the left-of-center part of the populace agrees with them. But what about the middle, the "independents"? I'm curious. It cannot be encouraging to the Trump administration that notionally Republican figures such as John McCain seem to take the media's side (you would think he would have learned something from the way the media treated him in 2008).

    It's a high stakes game. Where or how does it end?

  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @NOTA
    And the answer is obvious--wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That's how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Jefferson

    “And the answer is obvious–wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That’s how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job.”

    -Sure, for those who believe in truth, justice and the American way. But we’re talking about leftist NY Times writers here. Those are all reasons they want to get rid of him, not things they believe in.

  49. As far as our national politics are concerned, at least, the remit of the New York Times at present is to engage in PsyOps on behalf of the Establishment. The solution is to make it understood by as many people as possible that it is no longer a respectable or reliable news organization (if it ever was), given that many of its readers are still under the delusion that it actually is. One might note the President Trump invariably refers to it as the “failing New York Times,” so he is doing his own part to undermine the brand. A continued assault on the Old Gray Lady via social media and elsewhere seems the best long-term strategy.

    For several years I taught at a university in Northeast China, from 2010-2013. One class I even used a column by Paul Krugman as reading material, which nearly provoked a revolt by my students as the bias against China was apparent even to non-native speakers of English. (Not long afterwards, the site was blocked by the “Great Fire Wall.”) It’s clear that Chinese nationalism – along with US or Russian nationalism – is an affront to the US-ensconced Establishment and the heavy hitters at the New York Times, given their own globalist agenda.

    Going by their comments, it says something about the provincialism of America’s liberal “elites” that they seem to have a less sophisticated understanding of what the New York Times is all about than even 19-year-old Chinese undergraduates whose parents were either farmers or factory workers for the most part. If they wish to continue to read the New York Times, that’s fine, but they must be disabused of the fiction that it is still in the business of peddling actual news. It is propaganda first and foremost, and therefore no longer deserves any of the lingering “prestige” that it has managed to accrue over the years.

    The Jew York Times is indeed fake news. That’s right, I just said it.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @King Baeksu


    Going by their comments, it says something about the provincialism of America’s liberal “elites” that they seem to have a less sophisticated understanding of what the New York Times is all about than even 19-year-old Chinese undergraduates whose parents were either farmers or factory workers for the most part. If they wish to continue to read the New York Times, that’s fine, but they must be disabused of the fiction that it is still in the business of peddling actual news. It is propaganda first and foremost, and therefore no longer deserves any of the lingering “prestige” that it has managed to accrue over the years.
     
    Edward Bernays -- Freud's double nephew, member of the Creel Committee, and the man who sold cigarettes to women as Torches of Freedom -- reported in his 1928 book Propaganda that he had looked at the front page of a New York Times edition and ascertained that half the stories were propaganda.
  50. I watched Trump’s speech in Florida today and even caught a glimpse of Stephen Bannon laughing. The speech was red meat anti-media and nationalist and aspirational. He’s the damned Republican Franklin D. Roosevelt and he is outsmarting all of them.

  51. @Hail
    Trump won, but "the regime" still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically "get rid of" them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.


    https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/832590618027102208

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @Lurker, @snorlax, @wren, @ben tillman

    Why does the cartoonist have to ruin a perfectly cogent point with references to “Satanists” and “Illuminati”?

  52. @candid_observer
    I do wonder where this all ends.

    On the one hand, the left and the media have gone increasingly crazy since Trump's inauguration.

    On the other hand, Trump, who seemed at the very beginning somewhat humbled by his rise to the Presidency and what it represents, seems now more and more comfortable and even emboldened by the power of the office. I think his performance in his most recent press conference is a sign of that. In addition, he seems to be getting some better sense of the operating constraints of a President.

    I think Trump's self-confidence in the role of the Presidency is just too much for the press to take -- especially since he is so openly contemptuous of them. On some level, I'm sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves. They know how they've tossed out all journalistic principle. Being accused by the most powerful man in the world of ginning up Fake News is causing an internal breakdown.

    Everything is getting worse in terms of polarization. But where does it end? How does it resolve itself?

    As the saying goes, trends that can't continue, won't. I'm just not sure where we'll be when it stops.

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches. They will be denounced, of course, but others will take heart from their decision and do the same. It will help that this will also be a very good career move at a certain point, because it will give them both an audience in the public and greater access in the Trump administration.

    I wouldn't hazard a guess, though, as to how long it will take for that to happen.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Sandmich, @Glossy, @SnakeEyes

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches

    This runs into the problem of a “responsible press” being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

    In one respect the media is actually responding to, rather than entirely creating, a crazy demographic.

    Two questions come to mind. One, even if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this if they’ve spent their entire career not doing this and is simply uttering a mea culpa enough to get people to trust them? Two, even if they pull of the challenges just mentioned, how large of a market is there for them and can they make that market pay more than the existing market?

    Sometimes the “runaway train” model is actually the best model. I’m not sure that the media, once they’ve checked into the Hotel California can actually check out.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @TangoMan

    Interesting observation.

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @TangoMan


    if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this
     
    Maybe they could, you know, start a blog or a vlog? Prove their bona fides that way. Over time. I believe it's happened before. If they want tech help, why don't they ask The Proprietor of this very fine establishment?
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @TangoMan


    This runs into the problem of a “responsible press” being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

     
    Tango Man I have written a few blog posts about this, but let me slightly change the wording of (part of) one of them into a reply about the motivation of the press. (Note: LP = "Lyin' Press)

    As things have gotten more polarized over also about 2 decades running, between the globalist/elites with their fringe-groups and useful idiots, and most of the rest of the normal Americans, the media has completely taken the side of the former "folks" (by "folks", we mean more like "evil beings"). Why? The latter group still is a majority by a decent margin. The '16 election was close, but I believe the regular Americans were still under-represented and the globalist/elites/LP/fringes/U-Idiots over-represented. The true numbers will show up only when things get really nasty. Anyway, why would they not only alienate a majority of would-be viewers and readers via neglect, but nowadays even via flat-out rage, hatred, and disdain?

    Show me the profit in this behavior? PeakStupidity's working theory (not as yet modeled on our super-stupid computers by our geeks in Bombay) is that the LP is beyond caring about making profits via good ole tried-and-true bidness methods. They have 2 things going on which separates them from the old ways:

    1) The reason I use the term Gov't Media lots is due to the current relationship between media and government - by far most importantly the US Feral Gov't. This government has gotten so huge that the LP can completely make enough of their news on this government alone to fill the 24 hours in a day. It is in the best interest of the LP that the US gov't stay huge and keep making laws and arbitrary regulations that have big effects on people's lives. Why? This is because a viewer or reader nowadays has a need to pay attention, because every day of the week could bring another change to his life or livelihood to to some gov't bulls__t program or another.

    2) At this late stage of the US Gov't Beast, the LP has good reason to believe that they will all be bailed out by the remaining US taxpayers> theft victims, were they to start losing so much money as to be unable to even operate. The government has a big interest in letting these Lying Presstitutes keep putting out their lying words. They are, in the words of future congressional bailout committees, "too duplicitous to fail".

    Here's my entire post on this.
    , @AndrewR
    @TangoMan

    They don't have to explicitly provide a "mea culpa." They just have to stop being hacks. People can intuitively detect fair treatment. I used to hold a number of media organizations in high regard until one day I just realized that they were no longer deserving of my respect. It's not like any of them just came out and said "we are shameless whores of globalist scum and will lap up every drop of globalist jizz for an extra nickle." But this was the overwhelming subtext.

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian

  53. @Chase
    Generally the American way is to wait four years and try again. Somehow I don't think that suggestion will be taken.

    Replies: @Rod1963, @Random Dude on the Internet, @Cagey Beast

    Didn’t Ukraine’s President Yanukovych have only about a year left in office but Vicky Nuland and the colour revolution just couldn’t wait? Can the people who find faraway regimes intolerable be able to restrain themselves at home? I don’t think so. The only thing that can stop them is the cooler heads around them.

    If the next six months are a continuation of the last six months, then the US could easily find itself in a Euromaidan mess:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_presidential_election,_2010

    • Replies: @David
    @Cagey Beast

    After EUthanasia comes the USthanasia.

  54. @candid_observer
    I do wonder where this all ends.

    On the one hand, the left and the media have gone increasingly crazy since Trump's inauguration.

    On the other hand, Trump, who seemed at the very beginning somewhat humbled by his rise to the Presidency and what it represents, seems now more and more comfortable and even emboldened by the power of the office. I think his performance in his most recent press conference is a sign of that. In addition, he seems to be getting some better sense of the operating constraints of a President.

    I think Trump's self-confidence in the role of the Presidency is just too much for the press to take -- especially since he is so openly contemptuous of them. On some level, I'm sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves. They know how they've tossed out all journalistic principle. Being accused by the most powerful man in the world of ginning up Fake News is causing an internal breakdown.

    Everything is getting worse in terms of polarization. But where does it end? How does it resolve itself?

    As the saying goes, trends that can't continue, won't. I'm just not sure where we'll be when it stops.

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches. They will be denounced, of course, but others will take heart from their decision and do the same. It will help that this will also be a very good career move at a certain point, because it will give them both an audience in the public and greater access in the Trump administration.

    I wouldn't hazard a guess, though, as to how long it will take for that to happen.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Sandmich, @Glossy, @SnakeEyes

    We’re taking about the crew that still has it in for W; even if Trump is in the best of health, I don’t think he’ll live long enough to see the press get over themselves (now that I think of it, I don’t know if any of us will live that long).

  55. On some level, I’m sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves. They know how they’ve tossed out all journalistic principle.

    I don’t get the sense they have that level of self awareness.

    • Agree: Barnard
  56. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Can we start arresting the press for sedition now? I’m dying to do it. A certain amount of normality would return to American public life if these yahoos were prevented from trying to stir up a revolution every day. There is a big difference between normal dissent and sedition, and the press has reached the point where they’re breaking the law.

    As for the government itself, Joe McCarthy would freak out at the sheer amount of treasonous intent inside our own bureaucracy right now. What we’re facing today is a thousand times worse than anything he ever had to deal with in the 1950s.

  57. You would think the incredible victory of Trump would be cause for some self-examination among the establishment, but quite the contrary. This reality show star went up against the Republican establishment, the entire Democrat Party, the entire media (with a few exceptions), and the whole entrenched liberal culture that dominates our nation, and he won. I myself voted for him despite not particularly liking him as a person and having serious doubts about his qualifications and temperament. Nevertheless, I was happy to vote for the first candidate in my lifetime who talked about the real problems of this country and offered real solutions, whether or not I believe he will be able to deliver. As far as I’m concerned, it’s Trump or “game over,” and it may be game over in any case.

    Roughly half the voting population of this nation feels the same way I do. Yet instead of taking our anger seriously, the establishment thinks it can just make this all go away by having liberal judges block Trump at every turn, having the press and entertainment industry attack him on a daily basis, and having congress do as little as possible to enact his agenda. But where do tthe elites think the anger is going to go? Do they think they can just double down, tell us, “No, America, you can’t have borders. No, you have to welcome a vast influx of Muslims. No, you have to step aside and let immigrants take your jobs. Sorry, we have to move your industry to countries with cheaper workers and fewer regulations.”

    Can they really not understand that they’re playing with fire? They can call Trump “Hitler” all they want, but they have to confront the fact that we prefer the one they call Hitler to them.

    • Replies: @eD
    @Harry Baldwin

    Harry Baldwin made some good observations, with one minor caveat. As 538.com reported, Congress has co-operated with the Trump administration, in terms of bills passed and nominees getting confirmed, about as much as it has with other incoming administrations. Congress has not been the problem, actually something of a surprise given the disdain the Republican "establishment" has for Trump, and the Republicans' fairly narrow margins.

    But yes, any removal of Trump other than just running a more popular candidate in four years and defeating him, or he serves out his term and opts not to run for a second term, would be seriously delegitimatizing. There would even be problems with Clinton/ Johnson/ Stein voters, who are pretty unhappy that Trump could wind up as President in the first place.

    , @Rod1963
    @Harry Baldwin

    Well said.



    Do they think they can just double down, tell us, “No, America, you can’t have borders. No, you have to welcome a vast influx of Muslims. No, you have to step aside and let immigrants take your jobs. Sorry, we have to move your industry to countries with cheaper workers and fewer regulations.”
     
    Why yes. The establishment views most Americans as no more than morons and sheep who will do as they are told. Of course they've been totally wrong about Trump and his supporters from day one. But that doesn't stop them from making even more insane and dangerous decisions.

    Can they really not understand that they’re playing with fire?
     
    No, they can't for various reasons too lengthy to go into. But check out this article from the spectator:
    https://spectator.org/39326_americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution/

    Of course they are just foolish enough to set off a armed bloodbath aimed at them.
  58. Kristof is another self-marginalizing douchebag.

    PS the msm freaked out the same with Reagan and have treated all GOP presidents with similar contempt and disrespect.

    • Replies: @Bad Parrot
    @Anonymous


    PS the msm freaked out the same with Reagan and have treated all GOP presidents with similar contempt and disrespect.
     
    This is my impression as well. People have already forgotten the rage against Bush Jr, which began remember when he 'stole' the 2000 election, not when he invaded Iraq.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @snorlax

  59. the media is actually responding to, rather than entirely creating, a crazy demographic.

    It is doing both.

    The elite media has gone all the way up to the Rubicon of Open Sedition/Treason (By the standards of almost any society in history), and made forays across that rubicon, hoping the prevailing confusion of their manufactured outrage can cover their retreat-by-night, back to the non-seditious bank of the river….

  60. http://newobserveronline.com/paris-tourists-warned-stay-away-nonwhite-mobs-attack/

    If tourists should stay away, maybe prospective migrants should stay away too.

    You see, they should stop coming to France because it’s too dangerous… like Africa.

    ROTFL.

  61. @TangoMan
    @candid_observer

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches

    This runs into the problem of a "responsible press" being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

    In one respect the media is actually responding to, rather than entirely creating, a crazy demographic.

    Two questions come to mind. One, even if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this if they've spent their entire career not doing this and is simply uttering a mea culpa enough to get people to trust them? Two, even if they pull of the challenges just mentioned, how large of a market is there for them and can they make that market pay more than the existing market?

    Sometimes the "runaway train" model is actually the best model. I'm not sure that the media, once they've checked into the Hotel California can actually check out.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Expletive Deleted, @Achmed E. Newman, @AndrewR

    Interesting observation.

  62. Who will rid us of this traitorous establishment?

  63. Alex Jones says insiders are trying to force Trump’s longtime personal security team out of the picture.

    I had wondered about this and apparently Trump still has two layers of security and never let the SS take over completely.

    Lots of recent evidence that the SS has institutional problems……..

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Anonymous

    Nice illustration of how he'll handle that infringement on his personal arrangements in Melbourne yesterday, calling that guy up on the stage.


    A star is born," Trump declared once he returned to the microphone.
    "I can't say Secret Service was thrilled with that," he added of bringing the supporter on stage.
     
    [translation: " Hey! Sunglasses and fat armpit crew! I'm your employer, you do what I think you should do, not what you think you should do. Gottit?"]
    , @Alden
    @Anonymous

    "Institutional problems" Actually they are affirmative action problems.

  64. @candid_observer
    I do wonder where this all ends.

    On the one hand, the left and the media have gone increasingly crazy since Trump's inauguration.

    On the other hand, Trump, who seemed at the very beginning somewhat humbled by his rise to the Presidency and what it represents, seems now more and more comfortable and even emboldened by the power of the office. I think his performance in his most recent press conference is a sign of that. In addition, he seems to be getting some better sense of the operating constraints of a President.

    I think Trump's self-confidence in the role of the Presidency is just too much for the press to take -- especially since he is so openly contemptuous of them. On some level, I'm sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves. They know how they've tossed out all journalistic principle. Being accused by the most powerful man in the world of ginning up Fake News is causing an internal breakdown.

    Everything is getting worse in terms of polarization. But where does it end? How does it resolve itself?

    As the saying goes, trends that can't continue, won't. I'm just not sure where we'll be when it stops.

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches. They will be denounced, of course, but others will take heart from their decision and do the same. It will help that this will also be a very good career move at a certain point, because it will give them both an audience in the public and greater access in the Trump administration.

    I wouldn't hazard a guess, though, as to how long it will take for that to happen.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Sandmich, @Glossy, @SnakeEyes

    On some level, I’m sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves.

    I don’t think so. Some must be aware of some of the dishonesty by their side, but they think it’s for a good cause and that Trump is more dishonest than they are anyway. For the record, I think that the media is more dishonest.

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches.

    That’s not going to happen. As the right is getting rightier, the left is getting leftier. If Trump completes his term, the media will hate him even more at the end than they do now.

  65. Now, I’ve seen everything.

    WWP or World War Pewdiepie.

    I can’t believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie.

    What is this world coming to?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anon


    I can’t believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie.
     
    Why not - they picked a fight with a cartoon frog.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    @Anon

    [email protected] #44
    "I can’t believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie."

    What do you expect from these people? The Democandidate picked a fight with a cartoon frog. Probably swung a heap of millennials, already pissed at the treatment of Bernie, away from her when they saw the uncontrolled cray-cray leaking out. "Do we really want that near The Big Red Button?"
    Shadilay!

    , @silviosilver
    @Anon

    It seems like a textbook case of the "pour encourager les autres" mindset that's been with us for decades (with respect to race). It's also possible he came into the crosshairs of media powerbrokers thanks to the efforts rank-and-file SJWs, and therefore even if it were judged unwise to persecute someone as tame as pdp, it may have been judged even more unwise to disappoint the SJW street brigades - out of fear for one's own position for "ignoring" pdp's horrific racism and anti-semitism if nothing else.

  66. I think that Donald Trump, the Billionaire with lots of smart advisors, probably figured that he would face a lot of opposition by the bought-FakeNew media and has prepared lots of strategies …

    He seems to have had a very successful rally in Florida today, and I imagine he is planning to repeat those around the country.

  67. Dan Rather, the former CBS News anchor who covered Watergate, says that Trump’s Russia scandal isn’t now at the level of Watergate but could become at least as big.

    A scandal is “an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong and causing general public outrage.”

    There is no Trump/Russia scandal. This a flat-out lie.

    It’s fake news in the New York Times.

  68. Synthetic Hypothesis on Trump

    1. Thesis: Donald Trump, shrewd, grasping, short-cut artist gets a family real estate job out of college, realizing he doesn’t have the intellectual chops of his sister Maryanne. Being impatient and results-oriented, Trump has no problem cutting deals with the mafia types who run the construction trades and control ready-mix concrete in NYC. Trump discovers he likes the easy money and earthly pleasures, and gets in even deeper when he goes into the Atlantic City casino business.

    After the close of the cold war, “traditional” Italian and Jewish mobs give way to Russian/Jewish mafia. This new school has ties directly to Moscow, through the old MVD (Interior Ministry) channels and also through the KGB channels established for Perestroika “joint ventures.” Over time Moscow develops influence over Trump, to the extent that he becomes theirs. The FSB and SVR and even the GRU (through Manafort’s Ukranian connection) do everything in their power to help him, incredibly, to be elected.

    2. Antithesis: Norman Vincent Peale acolyte and church-goer Donald Trump joins the family business after graduating from college. Patriotic and driven by disgust about the mafia’s activities (especially the Gambino and Genovese drug trade), straight-shooting Trump informs for the FBI. Contrary to his account in The Art of the Deal , the New Jersey gaming commission gave him a license to build because of Federal influence, not because his application was hurried along.

    After La Cosa Nostra (as the FBI called it) was pared down, in the 1990s the FBI turned to domestic extremism and political corruption as top tier activities. In NYC in particular, the FBI had coverage of Democrats in Sharpton, and Republicans in Trump, with both men running pro-forma campaigns. Trump’s straight-talking, swamp-draining rhetoric caught voters’ attention after years of political dysfunction at high levels — he was never in it to win, just to gather information.

    3. Synthesis: Trump wanted to get rich in a hurry, and in knowing the NYC construction industry saw weakness in the mafia goons. Instead of fearing their violence, Trump saw that their outlaw status made them ripe for exploitation, provided the law was on his side. Trump got the law on his side by informing. The mob guys liked Trump, and his increasingly high profile tabloid activities made retribution unlikely, even if they figured out that mobsters around Trump ended up in prison. They saw Trump, with his brash, loud mouth as a clown, a half-wit straight front for their activities.

    The Feds protected him from being prosecuted, or even indicted (!) for his 400 Polish illegal demolition workers, back when the US gov’t occasionally enforced immigration laws. They helped grease the skids with the NJ gaming commission, but Trump’s propensity for short-cuts came back to bite him here, too, because the casino was financed with junk bonds. The Feds turned a blind eye to his scamming, get-rich-quick schemes like Trump University, especially as he brought them ever more valuable intel on the new wave of Russian mobsters.

    As the 2016 campaign developed, FBI got a front row seat the Russian intel operations, and this window became a 2-way conduit. FBI got to run A/B tests on various “aides.” Trump’s status was never revealed to Russia by Hanssen in the 1990s, as Hanssen was far more concerned with Foreign Counter Intel. Trump’s true significance came very late, and this information was not shared accross compartments and agencies. When it came time, the director himself gave Trump an extra shove in the polls, announcing the re-opening of the email investigation.

    As I said above, my synthesis here is also a hypothesis: is my guess correct? What would that world look like? What can we predict? What is the source of Trump’s Luck? What was said in Comey’ meeting in the basement of the Capitol yesterday? Are some of the loudest voices bellowing about Trump’s ties to Russia right, but not fully briefed? Or are they in on the joke, as the US gov’t plays for time in Eastern Europe?

  69. @Harry Baldwin
    You would think the incredible victory of Trump would be cause for some self-examination among the establishment, but quite the contrary. This reality show star went up against the Republican establishment, the entire Democrat Party, the entire media (with a few exceptions), and the whole entrenched liberal culture that dominates our nation, and he won. I myself voted for him despite not particularly liking him as a person and having serious doubts about his qualifications and temperament. Nevertheless, I was happy to vote for the first candidate in my lifetime who talked about the real problems of this country and offered real solutions, whether or not I believe he will be able to deliver. As far as I'm concerned, it's Trump or "game over," and it may be game over in any case.

    Roughly half the voting population of this nation feels the same way I do. Yet instead of taking our anger seriously, the establishment thinks it can just make this all go away by having liberal judges block Trump at every turn, having the press and entertainment industry attack him on a daily basis, and having congress do as little as possible to enact his agenda. But where do tthe elites think the anger is going to go? Do they think they can just double down, tell us, "No, America, you can't have borders. No, you have to welcome a vast influx of Muslims. No, you have to step aside and let immigrants take your jobs. Sorry, we have to move your industry to countries with cheaper workers and fewer regulations."

    Can they really not understand that they're playing with fire? They can call Trump "Hitler" all they want, but they have to confront the fact that we prefer the one they call Hitler to them.

    Replies: @eD, @Rod1963

    Harry Baldwin made some good observations, with one minor caveat. As 538.com reported, Congress has co-operated with the Trump administration, in terms of bills passed and nominees getting confirmed, about as much as it has with other incoming administrations. Congress has not been the problem, actually something of a surprise given the disdain the Republican “establishment” has for Trump, and the Republicans’ fairly narrow margins.

    But yes, any removal of Trump other than just running a more popular candidate in four years and defeating him, or he serves out his term and opts not to run for a second term, would be seriously delegitimatizing. There would even be problems with Clinton/ Johnson/ Stein voters, who are pretty unhappy that Trump could wind up as President in the first place.

  70. Seems like this media narrative’s subtext is an open invite for the aspiring sirhan sirhans and hinkleys of the world to “come on down”. Scary.

  71. I read on some Wall Street Journal fan site that the New York Times is buying bots from China to increase readership and subscriber counts. Anyone have any verification on this? (Seems too good to be true!)

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Mikey Darmody

    sounds plausible. And, aren't robots going to be paying taxes and all! :)

    , @neutral
    @Mikey Darmody

    I really don't know what is going on exactly with all that recent Chinese readership, but it is rather odd coming from a country that has blocked access to the NYT.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Mikey Darmody

    Zerohedge had a story on this:

    Are The NY Times, Guardian, And WaPo Buying Clicks?

    Just in the last two months, the online versions of The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Guardian, now have more visitors from China than they do from their respective domestic markets. Very strange. Should they replace the mottos on thier mastheads with "I'm Big in China"? Some people have speculated as to whether or not they are just buying clicks from Chinese bot-servers, much as some celebrities buy bogus, sock-puppet twitter-followers.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @res

    , @jim jones
    @Mikey Darmody

    Reddit has quite a few stories about Chinese bots:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5t3y1m/failing_msm_is_buying_traffic_from_chinese_bots/

  72. Who does the NYT think they are? They can’t remove the president because they don’t like him. And they can’t just fabricate some nonsense legal trick to push him out of office either.

    They have to respect the sitting president who was fairly elected president.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Massimo Heitor

    On the other hand the NYT doesn't seem too interested in the amount of election fraud that tips political races in the favor of Democrats, the election of Senator Franken by illegal Somali votes in 2008 being a notable example. According a credible McLaughlin and Associates survey, 13% of non-citizen Hispanics are registered to vote. Depending on the actual number of illegal aliens (20 - 40 million) as many as 3 million fraudulent votes were cast for Hillary. Then there are the heavy Democrat overcounts in urban areas where the entire election staff is dominated by Democrat operatives. Who knows if Obama was ever legally elected in 2008 or 2012? Certainly the NYT isn't curious.

    , @mobi
    @Massimo Heitor


    They have to respect the sitting president who was fairly elected president.
     
    I'm afraid they don't 'have to' do anything just because you or I want them to.
  73. @Hail
    Trump won, but "the regime" still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically "get rid of" them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.


    https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/832590618027102208

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @Lurker, @snorlax, @wren, @ben tillman

    Trump won, but “the regime” still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    Exactly analogous to the Brexit situation here. We won the vote but “the regime” holds all the formal power as well as much of the informal.

  74. NYT & the Deep State is in a pickle. Their bias & motivations are so abundantly clear, that if something happens to Trump now, it will put them in the crosshairs. There is simply no way that a Pim Fortuyn event would be taken in stride by the public now. If Trump disappeared and was replaced by Deep State connivers w/ a Neocon agenda, it would lead to fissures too deep. A civil war, or at the least, civil disobedience would be so widespread as to make the US ungovernable.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @CrunchybutRealistCon

    There is simply no way that a Pim Fortuyn event would be taken in stride by the public now. If Trump disappeared and was replaced by Deep State connivers w/ a Neocon agenda, it would lead to fissures too deep. A civil war, or at the least, civil disobedience would be so widespread as to make the US ungovernable.

    I don't see that happening. His supporters hold effectively no real power in our country other than their right to cast a vote every four years. They are fragmented, lacking formal power positions, relatively unskilled, and demoralized. And they are too law abiding.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @mobi

  75. Mainstream media personality just cannot believe this is happening, part MMXVII.

    Judging by this piece, they may have moved past the anger stage and into bargaining.

    • LOL: sayless
  76. @Hail
    Trump won, but "the regime" still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically "get rid of" them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.


    https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/832590618027102208

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @Lurker, @snorlax, @wren, @ben tillman

    Kissinger, the FBI and the CFR all lean pro-Trump.

    (“Illuminati?” Seriously?)

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @snorlax

    The Code of Federal Regulations supports Mr. Trump? I'd have thought regulators would at least be lukewarm, since he seeks to decrease regulations.

    I'm off to look up the alphabet soup if indefined acronyms in this thread....

    Replies: @snorlax, @Achmed E. Newman

  77. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    We are told that we can’t send illegal aliens back to their native countries because it would tear them apart from family and friends in America.

    Okay… then we can’t allow any more immigration since it would tear the arrivals from their families, relatives, friends, and countrymen in the home countries. What an unconscionable act of violence to uproot them and resettle them in America so far from their nations, families, relatives, friends, and countrymen. We can’t have that! It would be too traumatic.

    We must keep them intact with their families and friends by ensuring that they stay in their homelands and not come to America where they will be surrounded by strangers in a strange land.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  78. Nick Kristof should stick to ‘researching’ child prostitution around the world.

    • Agree: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    This:

    https://www.change.org/p/new-york-times-fire-nicholas-kristof-from-the-new-york-times-for-fraud-lying-about-sex-trafficking-and-somaly-mam-to-trick-people-to-send-money-under-false-pretenses

  79. anon • Disclaimer says:

    [deleted]

  80. @Hail
    Trump won, but "the regime" still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically "get rid of" them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.


    https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/832590618027102208

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @Lurker, @snorlax, @wren, @ben tillman

    I have been wondering about all these leaks, and zerohedge had a post today that connected the dots and finally made a lot of sense to me.

    Two weeks before Trump came in Obama made the NSA’s info available to all the various letter and deep state agencies, ostensibly not to miss any terror related info. In reality, it was to release any and all spying on Trump folks in untraceable form.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/jay-sekulow-obama-should-be-held-accountable-soft-coup-attempt-against-trump

  81. I am not worried at all. Most American people want peace and everyday rules of behavior…and, many, half+1, are now, firmly ok with Trump as president for 4 years. And, no one, absolutely no one, in a public career should be advocating for removing Trump from power, by nefarious and questionable means, bc that will, obviously, end their careerpossibly forever.

    The messy part of today is: everyone who hates Trump has children and grandchildren….and, yeah, they must “splain” their willingness to kill-off or force a “step-down” to their children, spouses, grands….or just, plain, look themselves in the mirror. They will be just like those horrible Latin American elites who let drug-kingpins kill their neighbor and the family next door, and the family dogs and cats (ok, a bit dramatic, but whatever). And, “that’s not who we are,” and all…..and that would be hard to face in the mirror.

    Dumb-ass pundits and writers may be apoplectic about Trump, but they are trying to rile-up crazy people to do the dirty work for their fantasies of actually, killing Trump or hurting his family. Maybe not quite killing, but ending his reign.

    The people who voted for Trump are loving Trump…and he is gaining supporters everyday bc of the bs/colossal lameness of the “Resisters.” So, trying to stir up a mob to take Trump down, ain’t gonna happen, ever. CIA is in a god-awful vice now (good) – Russian hackers, teenage hackers from everywhere are ripping into them, exposing their bs, the leaks, and their treason. FBI is sort of freaked that teenagers are attacking them, too. Teens are apoplectic about the internet and net neutrality and all, btw. And, they want anyone over 28 to basically die! (a joke, sorry) They want all of us old people terminated, or at least, to shut up from now on. They don’t want war with Russia, or any nuclear war; simple.

    Since I have lived in this country as a child from a European country, the biggest weakness of Americans, that I have known (and met all my life), is their pride. So, I don’t see people who advocate for some kinda’ wild-ass overthrow of Trump to actually, well…do it. There will be a movement to get others to do it. But, shit yeah, teenagers are gonna record your phone and broadcast everything you do. Hackers will destroy the lives of anyone who tries to take Trump down. They will also destroy that person’s family member’s lives. I mean, McCain got hacked by Russian teenagers!

    Young people want us all dead so we don’t destroy the planet with wars, pollution, nuclear fall-out, and anarchy resulting from severe income inequality and poverty, lack of food and resources, sudden, all encompassing war and nihilism. So, looking on the Sunny Side of Life, All this February bad stuff will pass. Shit, I was gonna tell you all about Donbass (positive), but too paranoid.

    last thing: the whole RESIST thing is so stupid and boring. Memes are popping up like Resist the Resistance; the Resisters are Resistance-clueless; Resisters don’t know where to find the exit sign; Resist but Insist. Resist cupcakes. Resist Pepe unless that’s your uncle; Resist airline security lines: Resist something important about cats. Resist because you think you must resist something…

  82. The elites are playing with fire, when they entertain these fantasies, that Trump can be removed without all hell breaking lose.

    Are they willing to risk a civil war to overturn the results of an election?

    • Replies: @wren
    @Sandy Berger's Socks

    I was hoping that were Trump to be elected, he would release the truth about various things I have long wondered about, like Obama's transcripts and what was in Sandy Berger's socks.

    There may be enough secrets that they thought were safely forever under the rug that they ARE willing to risk a civil war to keep them eternally hidden.

  83. @Mikey Darmody
    I read on some Wall Street Journal fan site that the New York Times is buying bots from China to increase readership and subscriber counts. Anyone have any verification on this? (Seems too good to be true!)

    Replies: @Lagertha, @neutral, @Mr. Anon, @jim jones

    sounds plausible. And, aren’t robots going to be paying taxes and all! 🙂

  84. I suspect this is wishcasting and dog whistles for assassination. This is how much batshit crazy the Left has become post Nov 8.

  85. @eD
    They have a template with the removal from office of President Rousseff in Brazil last year. She probably also went because she was seen as too close to Russia.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    Dilma’s predecessor benefited from a global commodity boom. When the tide receded, Brazil had its worst recession in decades. And Dilma was too much of a lefty ideologue to enact any pro-growth reforms. That’s probably the real reason she was impeached. That she got implicated in the big corruption scandal was a plus. Those conditions don’t apply here now.

  86. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    The elites are playing with fire, when they entertain these fantasies, that Trump can be removed without all hell breaking lose.

    Are they willing to risk a civil war to overturn the results of an election?

    Replies: @wren

    I was hoping that were Trump to be elected, he would release the truth about various things I have long wondered about, like Obama’s transcripts and what was in Sandy Berger’s socks.

    There may be enough secrets that they thought were safely forever under the rug that they ARE willing to risk a civil war to keep them eternally hidden.

  87. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    Trump singlehandedly held off new media layoffs for several months by generating so much public interest in the news.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  88. @Anon
    The term 'deep state' was almost never used in political discourse.

    But it is being used more and more often. I wonder what would happen if Trump were to mutter those two words. It will more incendiary than him calling out 'fake news'.

    Given the near-pornographic nature of this not-so-hidden-power controlled by perverts and degenerates, maybe it ought to be called DEEP THROAT STATE.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    When did I start using the term “deep state?”

    When I got back from Turkey in 2009?

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/06/deep-state.html

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Steve Sailer

    "Not in my lifetime"

    "They're not all like that"

    We are moving out of that stage of language usage. That means the politics is changing. I believe those two phrases were designed to stifle or paralyze any attempt to change the course of American politics. Taught in schools? Talk radio? TV or movies? Newspapers? I don't know when and where they started.

    I hope we can dislodge the use of the word "establishment" too. Ruling Class and Deep State are much more sinister and evocative of darkness and dread.

    , @Bill P
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, it was after you went to Turkey. I found it a bit boring at the time, partly because a former boss used to talk about the same thing a lot (although he would use the term "Byzantine"), but it turned out that you were really on to something. I never would have guessed that the term would catch on as it has and come to be used so widely. Maybe it's because it's got a catchy sort of ominous sound to it. Whatever the case, good work; as you've been suggesting recently, people may need conceptual tools to understand what's going on, and "deep state" is a good one. I bet our grandkids will be reading about the "deep state" in history books someday.

  89. @Harry Baldwin
    You would think the incredible victory of Trump would be cause for some self-examination among the establishment, but quite the contrary. This reality show star went up against the Republican establishment, the entire Democrat Party, the entire media (with a few exceptions), and the whole entrenched liberal culture that dominates our nation, and he won. I myself voted for him despite not particularly liking him as a person and having serious doubts about his qualifications and temperament. Nevertheless, I was happy to vote for the first candidate in my lifetime who talked about the real problems of this country and offered real solutions, whether or not I believe he will be able to deliver. As far as I'm concerned, it's Trump or "game over," and it may be game over in any case.

    Roughly half the voting population of this nation feels the same way I do. Yet instead of taking our anger seriously, the establishment thinks it can just make this all go away by having liberal judges block Trump at every turn, having the press and entertainment industry attack him on a daily basis, and having congress do as little as possible to enact his agenda. But where do tthe elites think the anger is going to go? Do they think they can just double down, tell us, "No, America, you can't have borders. No, you have to welcome a vast influx of Muslims. No, you have to step aside and let immigrants take your jobs. Sorry, we have to move your industry to countries with cheaper workers and fewer regulations."

    Can they really not understand that they're playing with fire? They can call Trump "Hitler" all they want, but they have to confront the fact that we prefer the one they call Hitler to them.

    Replies: @eD, @Rod1963

    Well said.

    Do they think they can just double down, tell us, “No, America, you can’t have borders. No, you have to welcome a vast influx of Muslims. No, you have to step aside and let immigrants take your jobs. Sorry, we have to move your industry to countries with cheaper workers and fewer regulations.”

    Why yes. The establishment views most Americans as no more than morons and sheep who will do as they are told. Of course they’ve been totally wrong about Trump and his supporters from day one. But that doesn’t stop them from making even more insane and dangerous decisions.

    Can they really not understand that they’re playing with fire?

    No, they can’t for various reasons too lengthy to go into. But check out this article from the spectator:
    https://spectator.org/39326_americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution/

    Of course they are just foolish enough to set off a armed bloodbath aimed at them.

  90. Kristof is a complete fool. He really believes the stuff he writes. The epitome of the idiotic “elite class.”

  91. @Mr. Anon
    You mean The Failing New York Times

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Trump singlehandedly held off new media layoffs for several months by generating so much public interest in the news.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Whoa, you'd better hope that keeps up, Steve. If the NYT goes down, what are you going to do on Sundays? We know you are a little too old for skateboarding, and what do you know about surfing, son, you're from GD New JerseyCalifor .... wait.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWW1FeT1EyQ

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  92. One commenter at NYT:

    Trump scares me far less than the tens of millions who voted for him.

    Let’s see an article about how Trump supporters would respond to his ouster.

    Removing Trump won’t fix the underlying problems that got him elected.

  93. @snorlax
    @Hail

    Kissinger, the FBI and the CFR all lean pro-Trump.

    ("Illuminati?" Seriously?)

    Replies: @Autochthon

    The Code of Federal Regulations supports Mr. Trump? I’d have thought regulators would at least be lukewarm, since he seeks to decrease regulations.

    I’m off to look up the alphabet soup if indefined acronyms in this thread….

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Autochthon

    Council on Foreign Relations. A blast-from-the-past favorite of conspiracy theorists during the John Birch Society era. Anyway they're WASPy Republican realists with Russophile tendencies, so they're pro-Trump for the most part.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Autochthon

    It's the Crash, Fire, Rescue trucks that support Trump. He favors buying more foam for foaming the runways, you know, with all the Asiana operations on the west coast.

    It is hard for me to keep all of these acronyms straight too. We have a Feral app agency for that, the Joint Agency for the Creation of Acronyms and Stupid Shit - JACASS. If you need an acronym decoded, like stat, try to get JACASS on the blower.

    Replies: @Alden

  94. @Mikey Darmody
    I read on some Wall Street Journal fan site that the New York Times is buying bots from China to increase readership and subscriber counts. Anyone have any verification on this? (Seems too good to be true!)

    Replies: @Lagertha, @neutral, @Mr. Anon, @jim jones

    I really don’t know what is going on exactly with all that recent Chinese readership, but it is rather odd coming from a country that has blocked access to the NYT.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @neutral

    Do I have any readers in mainland China?

  95. @Pseudonymic Handle
    OT: What are your thoughts on the MSM going after PewDiePie?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-severs-ties-with-youtube-star-pewdiepie-after-anti-semitic-posts-1487034533
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/magazine/youtubes-monster-pewdiepie-and-his-populist-revolt.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/02/14/us/ap-us-youtube-star-offensive-videos.html
    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/pewdiepie-racism-alt-right/

    They may convince their boomer readers, but the 50 million subscribers of PewDiePie will just learn that MSM is full of lies.

    Replies: @donut, @AndrewR

    • Replies: @neutral
    @donut

    PewDiePie has over 50 million Youtube subscribers, trying to take him out could produce an epic backfire for the deep state, it will create a legion of people that will end up coming across sites like Unz (and others) to try figure out how the world of politics really works.

    , @donut
    @donut

    Subscribe to Black Pigeon .

  96. @Mikey Darmody
    I read on some Wall Street Journal fan site that the New York Times is buying bots from China to increase readership and subscriber counts. Anyone have any verification on this? (Seems too good to be true!)

    Replies: @Lagertha, @neutral, @Mr. Anon, @jim jones

    Zerohedge had a story on this:

    Are The NY Times, Guardian, And WaPo Buying Clicks?

    Just in the last two months, the online versions of The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Guardian, now have more visitors from China than they do from their respective domestic markets. Very strange. Should they replace the mottos on thier mastheads with “I’m Big in China”? Some people have speculated as to whether or not they are just buying clicks from Chinese bot-servers, much as some celebrities buy bogus, sock-puppet twitter-followers.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Mr. Anon


    Some people have speculated as to whether or not they are just buying clicks from Chinese bot-servers, much as some celebrities buy bogus, sock-puppet twitter-followers.
     

    I can see that this could be a lucrative win-win darknet fraudulent business activity, which would allow sites to claim a larger slice of ad revenue than they are entitled to. The bots could easily be distributed, and wouldn't have to all appear to originate in the same place.

    Or perhaps what you are saying is that this is already something that's happening-hacker technology in the service of mulcting Google and Facebook's ad revenue models?

    , @res
    @Mr. Anon

    And now this at the Zerohedge article: "UPDATE II (02/17/2017) Alexa has blocked the country-specific data for the affected sites"
    Interesting times...

  97. @Anon
    Now, I've seen everything.

    WWP or World War Pewdiepie.

    I can't believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie.

    What is this world coming to?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ulkykn7jc

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted, @silviosilver

    I can’t believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie.

    Why not – they picked a fight with a cartoon frog.

  98. @neutral
    @Mikey Darmody

    I really don't know what is going on exactly with all that recent Chinese readership, but it is rather odd coming from a country that has blocked access to the NYT.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Do I have any readers in mainland China?

  99. @Anonymous
    Kristof is another self-marginalizing douchebag.

    PS the msm freaked out the same with Reagan and have treated all GOP presidents with similar contempt and disrespect.

    Replies: @Bad Parrot

    PS the msm freaked out the same with Reagan and have treated all GOP presidents with similar contempt and disrespect.

    This is my impression as well. People have already forgotten the rage against Bush Jr, which began remember when he ‘stole’ the 2000 election, not when he invaded Iraq.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Bad Parrot

    I remember it too, and it wasn't as vociferous or over the top as it is now with Trump - not by a long way. The prestige press, though they clearly didn't like Bush, didn't openly declare themselves to be his enemies. There were not protests breaking out every week, starting on innauguration day. AGs and Courts weren't tripping over themselves to invalidate his executive actions. Late-night talk-shows didn't devote themselves to unrelenting attacks on GW, as Seth Meyers and Stephen Colbert are now with Trump. SNL didn't go into full-on attack mode.

    I know that people are fond of saying "it was ever thus", and there is some point to that. But what is going on now really is qualitatively different than what happened at the beginning of the Bush and Reagan administrations. It is unprecedented in my lifetime.

    , @snorlax
    @Bad Parrot

    The media wages jihad vs every GOP president, true, but this is on another level. The only thing remotely comparable is their treatment of Nixon at the height of Watergate.

  100. @candid_observer
    I do wonder where this all ends.

    On the one hand, the left and the media have gone increasingly crazy since Trump's inauguration.

    On the other hand, Trump, who seemed at the very beginning somewhat humbled by his rise to the Presidency and what it represents, seems now more and more comfortable and even emboldened by the power of the office. I think his performance in his most recent press conference is a sign of that. In addition, he seems to be getting some better sense of the operating constraints of a President.

    I think Trump's self-confidence in the role of the Presidency is just too much for the press to take -- especially since he is so openly contemptuous of them. On some level, I'm sure they are suffering from a guilty conscience themselves. They know how they've tossed out all journalistic principle. Being accused by the most powerful man in the world of ginning up Fake News is causing an internal breakdown.

    Everything is getting worse in terms of polarization. But where does it end? How does it resolve itself?

    As the saying goes, trends that can't continue, won't. I'm just not sure where we'll be when it stops.

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches. They will be denounced, of course, but others will take heart from their decision and do the same. It will help that this will also be a very good career move at a certain point, because it will give them both an audience in the public and greater access in the Trump administration.

    I wouldn't hazard a guess, though, as to how long it will take for that to happen.

    Replies: @TangoMan, @Sandmich, @Glossy, @SnakeEyes

    I too have been wondering where this POTUS-media hate fest will end. On the one hand, I think the media have overplayed their hand because they now plainly are not objective observers and reporters of public affairs. Personally, I have never considered the media to be neutral or disinterested, but until very recently they could keep up the pretense of objectivity which gave them influence and the ability to control the narrative.

    Since late in the election cycle, they have seemed unable to restrain themselves. They seem to have concluded that Trump won the election because they treated him like a regular, legitimate candidate (they did not) and so they resolved to become adversarial. But by doing so, they forfeited their pretense of objectivity. I think the media believe that they can persuade the electorate as a whole that Trump is not legitimate, suffers “incapacity” or is just plain crazy. It’s the ultimate double-down.

    Is it working? I can’t tell because I do not respect the media so I find their narrative unpersuasive. We know the left-of-center part of the populace agrees with them. But what about the middle, the “independents”? I’m curious. It cannot be encouraging to the Trump administration that notionally Republican figures such as John McCain seem to take the media’s side (you would think he would have learned something from the way the media treated him in 2008).

    It’s a high stakes game. Where or how does it end?

  101. @Autochthon
    @snorlax

    The Code of Federal Regulations supports Mr. Trump? I'd have thought regulators would at least be lukewarm, since he seeks to decrease regulations.

    I'm off to look up the alphabet soup if indefined acronyms in this thread....

    Replies: @snorlax, @Achmed E. Newman

    Council on Foreign Relations. A blast-from-the-past favorite of conspiracy theorists during the John Birch Society era. Anyway they’re WASPy Republican realists with Russophile tendencies, so they’re pro-Trump for the most part.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @snorlax

    Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, is as "WASPy" as Madeleine Albright.

    Richard Hass is a Jewish globalizer who pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration and endless overseas war.

    Replies: @Alden

  102. @donut
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwPRH_u2rl8

    Replies: @neutral, @donut

    PewDiePie has over 50 million Youtube subscribers, trying to take him out could produce an epic backfire for the deep state, it will create a legion of people that will end up coming across sites like Unz (and others) to try figure out how the world of politics really works.

  103. This is all orchestrated. Not by Soros though no doubt he is funding it. But Soros is too old and tired to be behind it. No its his main man … the dude he funded for decades, the ex President himself. One Barack Hussein Obama. Still living in DC.

    NO ex President ever stuck around in DC. None. All wanted to get the hell out as soon as possible. Who sticks around in DC? An Ex President angling to return.

    The playbook is obvious. Get some Federal Judge to declare Trump guilt of “treason” or racism or sexism or Islamaphobia or something. Because its Tuesday or he didn’t grovel enough to the religion of pieces, whatever. Pence has to go too, because racism!

    Then “to heal the planet” etc, the Judge orders the LightWorker himself, Barack Hussein Obama, to rule for the next ten years. Just to move the “healing process” along. And have more healing. Blue haired sluts, angry shaven headed Black lesbians, ugly fat White lesbians, gay nancy boys, Lena Dunham, Sarah Silverman, the NYT, the CIA, FBI, IRS, Government bureaucracy , John Lettuce McCain, “Light in his loafers” Lindsay Grahmnesty, Sing A Long with Mitch McConnell, and your new neighbor, Abu Jihad Mohammed Jihad Hijab Jihad will all begin to heal. [You’ll need to heal too, if you survive Abu Jihad Mohammed … aw the hell with it, Jihad’s explosions from the bomb factory in his duplex.]

    That’s the Raila Odinga Playbook. Obama got elected because the Good Whites, cucked feminist scandis all, overwhelmed us Bad Whites as fairly cucked scandi candidates like Juan McCain and Mittens Romney depressed Bad White turnout. Just like his cousin in Kenya, Obama won’t go quietly. He’ll burn down the country until it accedes to the “logic” of making him another Kim Jong Un.

    In no way is Obama even remotely American. Kenyan/Indonesian with hefty dose of Pakistan thrown in yes. But American, no. This is his cousin Raila Odinga’s playbook. Civil War has started.

    • Replies: @eD
    @Whiskey

    "NO ex President ever stuck around in DC. None. All wanted to get the hell out as soon as possible. Who sticks around in DC? An Ex President angling to return."

    Woodrow Wilson hung around DC after leaving office, died there, and is entombed in the National Cathedral.

    John Quincy Adams was a Congressman and William Howard Taft a Supreme Court justice after their administrations ended. Both jobs involve spending lots of time in DC.

    George Washington lived in a place reachable by the DC metro, though to be fair the national capitol at the time was located in Philadelphia.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    , @BB753
    @Whiskey

    Nah, Obama is too dumb and lazy to be planning a coup. It's Soros and the Permanent Government (including the Deep State). No Scandis are involved.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    @Whiskey

    Would the military and law enforcement obey Obama's orders under those circumstances, or under any remotely similar circumstances? It may finally come down to that. Civil War II in the U.S. won't be War Between the States, but a whole lot of regular military, National Guard, federal, state, local police and even sheriffs deciding just whose orders they're going to follow and whose side they're going to line up on. The decentralized nature of the U.S. military and law enforcement is the wild card when rival presidents start issuing contradictory orders, not armed civilians.

    I don't think Obama personally wants to come back--he really didn't like the job and he'd have to work harder under the circumstances Whiskey describes. Hillary, on the other hand, assuming her medications can keep her health problems at bay, would be itching to pull some kind of a de facto coup.

  104. @Pseudonymic Handle
    OT: What are your thoughts on the MSM going after PewDiePie?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-severs-ties-with-youtube-star-pewdiepie-after-anti-semitic-posts-1487034533
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/magazine/youtubes-monster-pewdiepie-and-his-populist-revolt.html
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/02/14/us/ap-us-youtube-star-offensive-videos.html
    https://www.wired.com/2017/02/pewdiepie-racism-alt-right/

    They may convince their boomer readers, but the 50 million subscribers of PewDiePie will just learn that MSM is full of lies.

    Replies: @donut, @AndrewR

    PewDiePie did nothing wrong.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @AndrewR

    SAVE FERRIS, I mean PEWDIEPIE!

  105. @unit472
    It was accidental, but Spiro Agnew resigned before Nixon. Agnew had been Nixon's attack dog so, in the liberal mind, he was 'worse' than Nixon. No sense in driving Nixon from office only to have him replaced by a shiny new Agnew.

    Pence, while a more conventional politician than Trump, is popular with Trump's deplorables so, even if it were possible to drive Trump from office, would the liberals really be better off with a shiny new President Pence?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Das, @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    This deplorable thinks Pence is deplorable. As much as I have grown to loathe Trump, the thought of President Pence is very unpleasant.

  106. @CrunchybutRealistCon
    NYT & the Deep State is in a pickle. Their bias & motivations are so abundantly clear, that if something happens to Trump now, it will put them in the crosshairs. There is simply no way that a Pim Fortuyn event would be taken in stride by the public now. If Trump disappeared and was replaced by Deep State connivers w/ a Neocon agenda, it would lead to fissures too deep. A civil war, or at the least, civil disobedience would be so widespread as to make the US ungovernable.

    Replies: @Opinionator

    There is simply no way that a Pim Fortuyn event would be taken in stride by the public now. If Trump disappeared and was replaced by Deep State connivers w/ a Neocon agenda, it would lead to fissures too deep. A civil war, or at the least, civil disobedience would be so widespread as to make the US ungovernable.

    I don’t see that happening. His supporters hold effectively no real power in our country other than their right to cast a vote every four years. They are fragmented, lacking formal power positions, relatively unskilled, and demoralized. And they are too law abiding.

    • Agree: AndrewR, dfordoom, Bill
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Opinionator

    As the kids say:

    This.

    Trumpenproles, compared to leftist constituencies, overwhelmingly lack the necessary traits and states needed to effect real change. And the left knows this.

    Short of outright civil war, the left is going to keep on winning until they get tired of winning. Trump is a speed bump but he makes a very poor leader, and even the best leader would, due to demographic and social factors, have limited ability to do what is necessary to defeat the left.

    , @mobi
    @Opinionator


    I don’t see that happening. His supporters hold effectively no real power in our country other than their right to cast a vote every four years. They are fragmented, lacking formal power positions, relatively unskilled, and demoralized. And they are too law abiding.
     
    This is all very true - until, suddenly, it isn't.

    Peace, order, and complacency, by implication, always precede their disappearance.

    The tensions are building, undeniably. Shockingly quickly. In that case, events have a way of 'coming out nowhere', and spiraling out of anyone's control. They truly do.

    The powderkeg-waiting-for-a-lit-match analogy seems apropo here. Or 'the shot heard round the world', even better (who would have guessed what would follow?)

    Removing Trump, most assuredly, would not dial down the buildup.

    The genie well and truly is part-way out of the bottle, which is why they're getting so hysterical in the first place.

  107. @unit472
    It was accidental, but Spiro Agnew resigned before Nixon. Agnew had been Nixon's attack dog so, in the liberal mind, he was 'worse' than Nixon. No sense in driving Nixon from office only to have him replaced by a shiny new Agnew.

    Pence, while a more conventional politician than Trump, is popular with Trump's deplorables so, even if it were possible to drive Trump from office, would the liberals really be better off with a shiny new President Pence?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Das, @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Pence is a terrible politician. The reason he joined the Trump ticket when so many Republicans were shunning Trump is that it looked like he would lose reelection in *Indiana*, so he had nothing to lose even if the Trump ticket lost.

    Trump won the election because he won a large number of people who voted for Obama twice in the key Midwestern battleground states. I wouldn’t count on Obama/Trump voters going for Pence.

    I would say that there is zero chance of the GOP dumping Trump and replacing him with Pence, but this is the same party that after its 2012 defeat decided that its political comeback lay in massively increasing Hispanic immigration and nominating Marco Rubio.

  108. @Bad Parrot
    @Anonymous


    PS the msm freaked out the same with Reagan and have treated all GOP presidents with similar contempt and disrespect.
     
    This is my impression as well. People have already forgotten the rage against Bush Jr, which began remember when he 'stole' the 2000 election, not when he invaded Iraq.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @snorlax

    I remember it too, and it wasn’t as vociferous or over the top as it is now with Trump – not by a long way. The prestige press, though they clearly didn’t like Bush, didn’t openly declare themselves to be his enemies. There were not protests breaking out every week, starting on innauguration day. AGs and Courts weren’t tripping over themselves to invalidate his executive actions. Late-night talk-shows didn’t devote themselves to unrelenting attacks on GW, as Seth Meyers and Stephen Colbert are now with Trump. SNL didn’t go into full-on attack mode.

    I know that people are fond of saying “it was ever thus”, and there is some point to that. But what is going on now really is qualitatively different than what happened at the beginning of the Bush and Reagan administrations. It is unprecedented in my lifetime.

    • Agree: sayless, SnakeEyes
  109. Ace of Spades put it pretty well:

    Dear Media,

    We all watched you in tears on election night, on our TVs.

    We saw your crying. There’s no denying it.

    And there’s no coming back from that.

    Anyone who cries like a baby while on television over the election results cannot claim to be able to put aside his deep emotional reaction and behave professionally and detachedly in the months to follow.

    So:

    We know what you are. We’ve always known what you were, but seeing the hysterical tears flow was proof to the rest of the world who suspected but did not know.

    And we’ll never believe a word you say again.

    Go f**k yourselves dead,

    The People Who Used to Watch You On TV

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @Mr. Anon

    Who cried?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  110. @Bad Parrot
    @Anonymous


    PS the msm freaked out the same with Reagan and have treated all GOP presidents with similar contempt and disrespect.
     
    This is my impression as well. People have already forgotten the rage against Bush Jr, which began remember when he 'stole' the 2000 election, not when he invaded Iraq.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @snorlax

    The media wages jihad vs every GOP president, true, but this is on another level. The only thing remotely comparable is their treatment of Nixon at the height of Watergate.

  111. @Cagey Beast
    @Chase

    Didn't Ukraine's President Yanukovych have only about a year left in office but Vicky Nuland and the colour revolution just couldn't wait? Can the people who find faraway regimes intolerable be able to restrain themselves at home? I don't think so. The only thing that can stop them is the cooler heads around them.

    If the next six months are a continuation of the last six months, then the US could easily find itself in a Euromaidan mess:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_presidential_election,_2010

    Replies: @David

    After EUthanasia comes the USthanasia.

  112. @Buffalo Joe
    Better question: "How do we get rid of a troublesome press?"

    Replies: @e, @Achmed E. Newman, @Olorin

    Sargon of Akkad riffed on this, 2/17:

    The Enemy of the People

    Too long, as usual…but the Alexa charts showing various MSM deflating like a Jell-o mold on the back seat in July are nice. Starting at about 9:15. Ensuing discussion suggests how bad the actual eyeball situation is for the legacy media.

  113. @PapayaSF
    Lucky for the New York Times, Trump is a straight white cismale Christian, or Kristof's piece would be racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, and/or Islamophobic.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    You left out the NYT’s go-to explanation for, well, .. everything.
    “Antisemitic”.

  114. @Flavius
    "And what does it say about a presidency that, just one month into it, we’re already discussing whether it can be ended early?"

    We? Who's we, uh, wh0 are you again?

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    Maybe he’s using the “royal We”, as all queens do.

  115. @TangoMan
    @candid_observer

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches

    This runs into the problem of a "responsible press" being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

    In one respect the media is actually responding to, rather than entirely creating, a crazy demographic.

    Two questions come to mind. One, even if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this if they've spent their entire career not doing this and is simply uttering a mea culpa enough to get people to trust them? Two, even if they pull of the challenges just mentioned, how large of a market is there for them and can they make that market pay more than the existing market?

    Sometimes the "runaway train" model is actually the best model. I'm not sure that the media, once they've checked into the Hotel California can actually check out.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Expletive Deleted, @Achmed E. Newman, @AndrewR

    if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this

    Maybe they could, you know, start a blog or a vlog? Prove their bona fides that way. Over time. I believe it’s happened before. If they want tech help, why don’t they ask The Proprietor of this very fine establishment?

  116. @Anonymous
    Alex Jones says insiders are trying to force Trump's longtime personal security team out of the picture.

    I had wondered about this and apparently Trump still has two layers of security and never let the SS take over completely.

    Lots of recent evidence that the SS has institutional problems........

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted, @Alden

    Nice illustration of how he’ll handle that infringement on his personal arrangements in Melbourne yesterday, calling that guy up on the stage.

    A star is born,” Trump declared once he returned to the microphone.
    “I can’t say Secret Service was thrilled with that,” he added of bringing the supporter on stage.

    [translation: ” Hey! Sunglasses and fat armpit crew! I’m your employer, you do what I think you should do, not what you think you should do. Gottit?”]

  117. @TangoMan
    @candid_observer

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches

    This runs into the problem of a "responsible press" being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

    In one respect the media is actually responding to, rather than entirely creating, a crazy demographic.

    Two questions come to mind. One, even if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this if they've spent their entire career not doing this and is simply uttering a mea culpa enough to get people to trust them? Two, even if they pull of the challenges just mentioned, how large of a market is there for them and can they make that market pay more than the existing market?

    Sometimes the "runaway train" model is actually the best model. I'm not sure that the media, once they've checked into the Hotel California can actually check out.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Expletive Deleted, @Achmed E. Newman, @AndrewR

    This runs into the problem of a “responsible press” being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

    Tango Man I have written a few blog posts about this, but let me slightly change the wording of (part of) one of them into a reply about the motivation of the press. (Note: LP = “Lyin’ Press)

    As things have gotten more polarized over also about 2 decades running, between the globalist/elites with their fringe-groups and useful idiots, and most of the rest of the normal Americans, the media has completely taken the side of the former “folks” (by “folks”, we mean more like “evil beings”). Why? The latter group still is a majority by a decent margin. The ’16 election was close, but I believe the regular Americans were still under-represented and the globalist/elites/LP/fringes/U-Idiots over-represented. The true numbers will show up only when things get really nasty. Anyway, why would they not only alienate a majority of would-be viewers and readers via neglect, but nowadays even via flat-out rage, hatred, and disdain?

    Show me the profit in this behavior? PeakStupidity’s working theory (not as yet modeled on our super-stupid computers by our geeks in Bombay) is that the LP is beyond caring about making profits via good ole tried-and-true bidness methods. They have 2 things going on which separates them from the old ways:

    1) The reason I use the term Gov’t Media lots is due to the current relationship between media and government – by far most importantly the US Feral Gov’t. This government has gotten so huge that the LP can completely make enough of their news on this government alone to fill the 24 hours in a day. It is in the best interest of the LP that the US gov’t stay huge and keep making laws and arbitrary regulations that have big effects on people’s lives. Why? This is because a viewer or reader nowadays has a need to pay attention, because every day of the week could bring another change to his life or livelihood to to some gov’t bulls__t program or another.

    2) At this late stage of the US Gov’t Beast, the LP has good reason to believe that they will all be bailed out by the remaining US taxpayers> theft victims, were they to start losing so much money as to be unable to even operate. The government has a big interest in letting these Lying Presstitutes keep putting out their lying words. They are, in the words of future congressional bailout committees, “too duplicitous to fail”.

    Here’s my entire post on this.

  118. @Mikey Darmody
    I read on some Wall Street Journal fan site that the New York Times is buying bots from China to increase readership and subscriber counts. Anyone have any verification on this? (Seems too good to be true!)

    Replies: @Lagertha, @neutral, @Mr. Anon, @jim jones

  119. @Anon
    Now, I've seen everything.

    WWP or World War Pewdiepie.

    I can't believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie.

    What is this world coming to?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ulkykn7jc

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted, @silviosilver

    [email protected] #44
    “I can’t believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie.”

    What do you expect from these people? The Democandidate picked a fight with a cartoon frog. Probably swung a heap of millennials, already pissed at the treatment of Bernie, away from her when they saw the uncontrolled cray-cray leaking out. “Do we really want that near The Big Red Button?”
    Shadilay!

  120. @Autochthon
    @snorlax

    The Code of Federal Regulations supports Mr. Trump? I'd have thought regulators would at least be lukewarm, since he seeks to decrease regulations.

    I'm off to look up the alphabet soup if indefined acronyms in this thread....

    Replies: @snorlax, @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s the Crash, Fire, Rescue trucks that support Trump. He favors buying more foam for foaming the runways, you know, with all the Asiana operations on the west coast.

    It is hard for me to keep all of these acronyms straight too. We have a Feral app agency for that, the Joint Agency for the Creation of Acronyms and Stupid Shit – JACASS. If you need an acronym decoded, like stat, try to get JACASS on the blower.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I used to work for a county agency whose mission was to release black criminals from prison

    Madison Area Group Guidance On Target or, MAGGOT

    Replies: @Olorin

  121. @Mr. Anon
    @Mikey Darmody

    Zerohedge had a story on this:

    Are The NY Times, Guardian, And WaPo Buying Clicks?

    Just in the last two months, the online versions of The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Guardian, now have more visitors from China than they do from their respective domestic markets. Very strange. Should they replace the mottos on thier mastheads with "I'm Big in China"? Some people have speculated as to whether or not they are just buying clicks from Chinese bot-servers, much as some celebrities buy bogus, sock-puppet twitter-followers.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @res

    Some people have speculated as to whether or not they are just buying clicks from Chinese bot-servers, much as some celebrities buy bogus, sock-puppet twitter-followers.

    I can see that this could be a lucrative win-win darknet fraudulent business activity, which would allow sites to claim a larger slice of ad revenue than they are entitled to. The bots could easily be distributed, and wouldn’t have to all appear to originate in the same place.

    Or perhaps what you are saying is that this is already something that’s happening-hacker technology in the service of mulcting Google and Facebook’s ad revenue models?

  122. Both the headline and the attitude Kristof’s article embodies are utterly odious.

  123. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    Trump singlehandedly held off new media layoffs for several months by generating so much public interest in the news.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Whoa, you’d better hope that keeps up, Steve. If the NYT goes down, what are you going to do on Sundays? We know you are a little too old for skateboarding, and what do you know about surfing, son, you’re from GD New JerseyCalifor …. wait.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Charlie Don't Surf:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyPCg8Om9_M

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  124. @AndrewR
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    PewDiePie did nothing wrong.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    SAVE FERRIS, I mean PEWDIEPIE!

  125. @Mr. Anon
    Ace of Spades put it pretty well:

    Dear Media,

    We all watched you in tears on election night, on our TVs.

    We saw your crying. There's no denying it.

    And there's no coming back from that.

    Anyone who cries like a baby while on television over the election results cannot claim to be able to put aside his deep emotional reaction and behave professionally and detachedly in the months to follow.

    So:

    We know what you are. We've always known what you were, but seeing the hysterical tears flow was proof to the rest of the world who suspected but did not know.

    And we'll never believe a word you say again.

    Go f**k yourselves dead,

    The People Who Used to Watch You On TV
     

    Replies: @Opinionator

    Who cried?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Opinionator

    Martha Raddatz, for one. There may have been others, I don't know. What is clear is that the response of the on-air presenters of most every network revealed that they are not neutral reporters, conveying the news, but rather partisan actors, taking a side. The same goes for the late-night talk-show hosts, who used to view themselves purely as entertainers, but now obviously don't mind alienating half of their potential audience.

  126. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Whoa, you'd better hope that keeps up, Steve. If the NYT goes down, what are you going to do on Sundays? We know you are a little too old for skateboarding, and what do you know about surfing, son, you're from GD New JerseyCalifor .... wait.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWW1FeT1EyQ

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Charlie Don’t Surf:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Thanks, Steve - listening now, but it's hard to listen to The Clash at volume level 1! (trying not to wake people up). I saw them in the early '80s in a 3000-seat auditorium - good show.

    Whaaaaaatt? The lyrics are in Japanese, Korean ??? whaaa? I can't read them cause they're too blurry.

  127. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Charlie Don't Surf:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyPCg8Om9_M

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Steve – listening now, but it’s hard to listen to The Clash at volume level 1! (trying not to wake people up). I saw them in the early ’80s in a 3000-seat auditorium – good show.

    Whaaaaaatt? The lyrics are in Japanese, Korean ??? whaaa? I can’t read them cause they’re too blurry.

  128. @Father O'Hara
    Larry Tribe tells Kristoff that Congress can employ the 25th amendment to kick him out for being unfit. Of course,Tribe is the guy who said Obama was the most brilliant student he ever had,so...

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  129. @Opinionator
    @CrunchybutRealistCon

    There is simply no way that a Pim Fortuyn event would be taken in stride by the public now. If Trump disappeared and was replaced by Deep State connivers w/ a Neocon agenda, it would lead to fissures too deep. A civil war, or at the least, civil disobedience would be so widespread as to make the US ungovernable.

    I don't see that happening. His supporters hold effectively no real power in our country other than their right to cast a vote every four years. They are fragmented, lacking formal power positions, relatively unskilled, and demoralized. And they are too law abiding.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @mobi

    As the kids say:

    This.

    Trumpenproles, compared to leftist constituencies, overwhelmingly lack the necessary traits and states needed to effect real change. And the left knows this.

    Short of outright civil war, the left is going to keep on winning until they get tired of winning. Trump is a speed bump but he makes a very poor leader, and even the best leader would, due to demographic and social factors, have limited ability to do what is necessary to defeat the left.

    • Troll: IHTG
  130. the people who own the media are the sort of people who make billions from off-shoring and cheap labor

    any media whore (aka journalist) coming out against either off-shoring or importing cheap labor would lose their job

  131. @Anon
    I was listening to Sally Quinn on a radio program, and she says that everyone in DC is saying the Russians have something on him. She also says there are whispers about impeachment.

    Replies: @anon

    the media talk about the hacking but ignore the information that was hacked

    why won’t any of them report that Clinton knew Saudi Arabia financed Isis?

    or that the CIA supplied Isis with MANPADs

  132. @TangoMan
    @candid_observer

    If I had to guess, some of the people in the press will finally peel themselves off of the hysteria, as it proceeds to its farther reaches

    This runs into the problem of a "responsible press" being an unprofitable press. CNN is pulling in money by providing eyeballs to advertisers, said eyeballs belonging to raving lunatics who want Trump chum in the water.

    In one respect the media is actually responding to, rather than entirely creating, a crazy demographic.

    Two questions come to mind. One, even if a journalist wants to go back to the side of credibility, how do they do this if they've spent their entire career not doing this and is simply uttering a mea culpa enough to get people to trust them? Two, even if they pull of the challenges just mentioned, how large of a market is there for them and can they make that market pay more than the existing market?

    Sometimes the "runaway train" model is actually the best model. I'm not sure that the media, once they've checked into the Hotel California can actually check out.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Expletive Deleted, @Achmed E. Newman, @AndrewR

    They don’t have to explicitly provide a “mea culpa.” They just have to stop being hacks. People can intuitively detect fair treatment. I used to hold a number of media organizations in high regard until one day I just realized that they were no longer deserving of my respect. It’s not like any of them just came out and said “we are shameless whores of globalist scum and will lap up every drop of globalist jizz for an extra nickle.” But this was the overwhelming subtext.

    • Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @AndrewR

    Steve, could you please delete comments about licking semen off the floor?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  133. @NOTA
    And the answer is obvious--wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That's how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Jefferson

    The other alternative is that the Dems could recapture the House and Senate in 2018 and inpeach Trump in 2019. I can’t see that happening (the recapturing part, not the impeachment part). Either way, it sounds like even 2019 is too long to wait for these blowhards. In which case, they are banging their head against a wall, because there is no way Trump will be impeached now. There are enough suspect Republican Senators like McCain and Graham that might want him gone. But Articles of Impeachment would have to be brought by the House, and there is no way they can convince enough Republican Congressmen to commit political suicide in 2018 to get that done.

  134. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buffalo Joe

    To take your question seriously, it should be easy enough, right? Steve Bannon can arrange to bring the bloggers into the front rows in the press conferences (Glenn Reynolds over here, Sailer to the left of him, Alex Jones to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with Mr. PeakStupidity, in the 2nd row, beside Derbyshire and Brimelow, with Ron Unz in the 2nd row behind Fred Reed (hey Fred, take off that damn urban sombrero, I can't see jack!). Really, there is no constitutional reason these NYT/WaPo people have to even be let in.

    Now, "the people" would have to do our part - not many want to really make any sacrifice aside from taking one hour in 4 years to vote. It's not enough - one of the easiest things you can do is just get rid of your TV, or keep it as a monitor (for internet, DVD's Roku, all that) but cut the cable off - hit them where it hurts!

    Nobody pay any subscription money of any kind for web access to any of the LP (Lyin' Press, fka MSM) except for just the one guy who reads it anyway, our illustrious host. He can continue to show us what kind of crap is in there once a day, and 6 ways from on Sunday.

    Blow up your TV (and eat a lot of peaches)!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofvfVPFbiM

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Achmed, I personally refuse to click on any NYT or WaPo links. It’s a start.

  135. @Glossy
    https://twitter.com/NickKristof/status/832727907789271040

    Proof positive that Kristof does know that he looks like a poodle.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive

    As Upton Sinclair said: ” It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. ”
    Or it could be, Kristof even believes the propaganda he is spewing forth. As both his parents were long time professors at Portland State University, little better than UCB, it’s likely he was indoctrinated from an early age.

  136. @Mr. Anon
    @Mikey Darmody

    Zerohedge had a story on this:

    Are The NY Times, Guardian, And WaPo Buying Clicks?

    Just in the last two months, the online versions of The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Guardian, now have more visitors from China than they do from their respective domestic markets. Very strange. Should they replace the mottos on thier mastheads with "I'm Big in China"? Some people have speculated as to whether or not they are just buying clicks from Chinese bot-servers, much as some celebrities buy bogus, sock-puppet twitter-followers.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @res

    And now this at the Zerohedge article: “UPDATE II (02/17/2017) Alexa has blocked the country-specific data for the affected sites”
    Interesting times…

  137. @unit472
    It was accidental, but Spiro Agnew resigned before Nixon. Agnew had been Nixon's attack dog so, in the liberal mind, he was 'worse' than Nixon. No sense in driving Nixon from office only to have him replaced by a shiny new Agnew.

    Pence, while a more conventional politician than Trump, is popular with Trump's deplorables so, even if it were possible to drive Trump from office, would the liberals really be better off with a shiny new President Pence?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Das, @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Pence, while a more conventional politician than Trump, is popular with Trump’s deplorables so, even if it were possible to drive Trump from office, would the liberals really be better off with a shiny new President Pence?

    Yes, they’d be far better off. Pence is a hard-core evangelical. They may hate abortion and gay marriage, but evangelicals have bought into much of the radical leftist agenda, especially on racial matters. Millions of them can still think halfway straight, but there are also millions who believe that “racism” is pretty close to being the unpardonable sin, that there are absolutely no meaningful differences between any races/ethnic groups because we’re all descended from Adam and Even, and that it’s racist to want to restrict immigration in any way. White Christians have a holy obligation to turn America into a Third World country because muh Good Samaritan.

    Of course, being Israel Firsters, their compassion has some limits, and most of them not only oppose immigration from Muslim countries, they’re also gung-ho for invading whatever brown country Israel tells us to.

    So, yeah, Pence might bitch about gay marriage and trannies in the bathroom, but he’d do nothing to slow down legal or illegal immigration, and would likely work to increase legal immigration, he’d give us amnesty if Congress cooperated, and he’d continue taking our military marching orders from Tel Aviv.

    Leftists would much prefer Pence to Trump.

  138. @WorkingClass
    Trump said the NYT is an enemy of the American people. That's more truth than I got from Clinton, Bush and Obama combined over 24 years.

    Replies: @David Allan coe

    So true, the press is controlled by leftist globalist who seek to destroy america.

  139. Anonymous [AKA "Wot"] says:

    How biased is the NYT vs other media?

    Media bias charted daily here:

    http://ciwnews.com/indexes/mbi/

  140. @Amasius
    LoL @ liberals fighting to remove Trump. Do they have any idea who Mike Pence is? Goodbye all forms of welfare, goodbye "LGBT" "rights," goodbye Roe V. Wade, goodbye remaining jobs that haven't been outsourced yet, hello bigass wars in the Middle East maybe Russia too. Pence would basically get to rule as a dictator with heavy Republican majorities marching in lockstep with his evangelical-libertarian neocon policies. But you'll get your precious immigrants! Plenty of them when they pass "immigration reform" and amnesty the 40 million and up the greencards to 5 million a year and quadruple H1B visas. That's all that matters, right!?

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @MusicalE

    LoL @ liberals fighting to remove Trump. Do they have any idea who Mike Pence is? Goodbye all forms of welfare, goodbye “LGBT” “rights,” goodbye Roe V. Wade,

    Goodbye welfare, gay rights, and abortion?

    Not hardly.

    Gay marriage isn’t going anywhere, let alone “gay rights.” Nor is abortion. Those aren’t going to happen.

    And welfare? Evangelicals don’t want to cut welfare. For one thing, that’s “racist.” For another, it’s not “pro-life.” As Ralph Reed explained 20 years ago when he ran the Christian Coalition, Christians must oppose welfare cutbacks because if government reduces the amount of money a woman receives for having a bastard, that would lead to more abortions.

  141. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @San Fernando Curt
    Awhile ago you wrote that it almost seems media is urging all unstable Travis Bickles out there to act on any homicidal urges they may have. Violence, especially ultimate, platium violence like presidential assassinations, will not only make one famous - but sexy/famous. Killer Elvis. When killing Nazis of course. We social sages will point them out.

    Replies: @anonymous

    I doubt it will be a Travis Bickle, an unconnected, discontented malcontent. (Any “solution” endorsed by Kristoff may appear like that is what happened, but any such “solution” will have professionals, not Travis Bickle, at the heart of it.)

    If Trump does not move us towards a second Cold War with Russia fast enough for the Deep State, then steps may be taken, but that won’t be for awhile.

    Anyway, all kinds of pressure will be placed on Trump in a variety of ways to bring us to a war-footing with Russia for a long time. Only if he is super-resistant to any of that will it then move to the next stage.

  142. @Massimo Heitor
    Who does the NYT think they are? They can't remove the president because they don't like him. And they can't just fabricate some nonsense legal trick to push him out of office either.

    They have to respect the sitting president who was fairly elected president.

    Replies: @JimB, @mobi

    On the other hand the NYT doesn’t seem too interested in the amount of election fraud that tips political races in the favor of Democrats, the election of Senator Franken by illegal Somali votes in 2008 being a notable example. According a credible McLaughlin and Associates survey, 13% of non-citizen Hispanics are registered to vote. Depending on the actual number of illegal aliens (20 – 40 million) as many as 3 million fraudulent votes were cast for Hillary. Then there are the heavy Democrat overcounts in urban areas where the entire election staff is dominated by Democrat operatives. Who knows if Obama was ever legally elected in 2008 or 2012? Certainly the NYT isn’t curious.

  143. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X
    We have a pretty damned serious problem in this country.

    The "elites" are 100% against Trump. Normally, only someone from the elite class is allowed to win.

    Trump only won because the elites are 100% against the American people, too. (When you step back and consider that the previous president of the United States actively sided with foreigners who committed the crime of illegal entry instead of enforcing U.S. immigration law -- to the point of bringing them to the State of the Union Address -- that's pretty bad.)

    The elites are hell-bent on taking Trump out. And they're capable of doing it. The problem facing Trump is that in order to survive, he's going to need to play just as dirty as they do -- in other words, by insisting that Trump is a "fascist," the elites are going to box him in into a corner where he's actually going to have to become one in order to survive the endless plots against him.

    Trump did the right thing by holding a populist rally in Florida -- but that's all he's got for support. The problem with populism is that common people don't control the institutions of the state, so when push comes to shove their influence is pretty limited -- unless they take to the streets and instill fear in the hearts of the elites. That's the primary technique of fascism. I don't see that happening yet, but it's pretty hard to see Trump surviving four years unless he can get some key institutions on his side (first and foremost the Republican Party.

    Failing that, it's going to end up in the streets.

    Not a good scene at all.

    Replies: @Anon

    Most important thing to control is the army. Most of the ranks are already pro-Trump, and getting Trump’s picks in at the top will solidify control there. Second most important thing is the CIA and intelligence community. There’s where the big fight is going to be fought. Third is the FBI, and we can’t do a thing about Comey until his term is up, but there are people below Comey who support Trump. We can probably wait on them until Comey’s term is up. Tillerson is already cleaning house at State. From there, it’s lesser agencies like the EPA, Education, etc., which are easier targets. If we can get over the hump of the CIA-intelligence communities, it’s only a matter of time before we have the whole government. I don’t think the intelligence community realizes this is a fight they can’t win. You cannot fight your own incoming president like this when he has the power to hire, fire, and prosecute you.

  144. Jack Hanson says:

    Its kind of amazing that these people are so tone deaf towards an event that would put them in real, physical danger.

    Kristoff and the rest of the NYT/Fake News/Deep State apparatus don’t get their chance of being tied to a pickup truck and dragged to death after judgment by a Deplorable’s Tribune increases exponentially if they try to force President Trump out.

  145. @wiseguy
    The coining of the term "Fake News" by the leftist establishment was a more horrific blunder than they even realize yet.
    Trump and the right will likely soon move beyond excoriating just Fake News and use the Fake descriptor to delegitimize, or at least impugn, all of the other phony stuff in the left's arsenal:

    Fake Education—The indoctrination that passes itself off as a real education that teaches man important truths.

    Fake Entertainment—The propaganda, like female Ghostbusters or Modern Family, that pretends to be actual entertainment.

    Fake Art—The modern monstrosities that debase and revolt man instead of uplift him like true art.

    Fake Intelligence—"The election was hacked by Muh Russians."

    Fake Work—The worthless jobs that our economy has become saturated with. See affirmative action jobs, HR cat-lady workers, and all the time wasting activities implemented by managers and regulators for CYA purposes.

    One could go on and on in this vein.

    Replies: @Robert Weissberg, @Rifleman

    Great insights. I live in NYC and have noticed a thriving market in fakes. Many look just like fakes but people buy them anyhow. Perhaps this is post-modern consumerism–no distinction between fake and real.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Robert Weissberg


    Perhaps this is post-modern consumerism–no distinction between fake and real.
     
    Wasn't that the essence of Baudrillard's argument -- except that he extended it to everything in postmodern life, not just consumerism?
  146. @Whiskey
    This is all orchestrated. Not by Soros though no doubt he is funding it. But Soros is too old and tired to be behind it. No its his main man ... the dude he funded for decades, the ex President himself. One Barack Hussein Obama. Still living in DC.

    NO ex President ever stuck around in DC. None. All wanted to get the hell out as soon as possible. Who sticks around in DC? An Ex President angling to return.

    The playbook is obvious. Get some Federal Judge to declare Trump guilt of "treason" or racism or sexism or Islamaphobia or something. Because its Tuesday or he didn't grovel enough to the religion of pieces, whatever. Pence has to go too, because racism!

    Then "to heal the planet" etc, the Judge orders the LightWorker himself, Barack Hussein Obama, to rule for the next ten years. Just to move the "healing process" along. And have more healing. Blue haired sluts, angry shaven headed Black lesbians, ugly fat White lesbians, gay nancy boys, Lena Dunham, Sarah Silverman, the NYT, the CIA, FBI, IRS, Government bureaucracy , John Lettuce McCain, "Light in his loafers" Lindsay Grahmnesty, Sing A Long with Mitch McConnell, and your new neighbor, Abu Jihad Mohammed Jihad Hijab Jihad will all begin to heal. [You'll need to heal too, if you survive Abu Jihad Mohammed ... aw the hell with it, Jihad's explosions from the bomb factory in his duplex.]

    That's the Raila Odinga Playbook. Obama got elected because the Good Whites, cucked feminist scandis all, overwhelmed us Bad Whites as fairly cucked scandi candidates like Juan McCain and Mittens Romney depressed Bad White turnout. Just like his cousin in Kenya, Obama won't go quietly. He'll burn down the country until it accedes to the "logic" of making him another Kim Jong Un.

    In no way is Obama even remotely American. Kenyan/Indonesian with hefty dose of Pakistan thrown in yes. But American, no. This is his cousin Raila Odinga's playbook. Civil War has started.

    Replies: @eD, @BB753, @Diversity Heretic

    “NO ex President ever stuck around in DC. None. All wanted to get the hell out as soon as possible. Who sticks around in DC? An Ex President angling to return.”

    Woodrow Wilson hung around DC after leaving office, died there, and is entombed in the National Cathedral.

    John Quincy Adams was a Congressman and William Howard Taft a Supreme Court justice after their administrations ended. Both jobs involve spending lots of time in DC.

    George Washington lived in a place reachable by the DC metro, though to be fair the national capitol at the time was located in Philadelphia.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @eD

    In fairness to Whiskey, Wilson was a semi-invalid by the time he left office, and your other examples involved ex-Presidents with jobs that required them to be in Washington. All of them were before the modern Cult of the Imperial President. I don't think, however, Obama really wants to return, but he does like the limelight of DC and he may well become the de facto opposition spokesman if the Democratic Party can't keep the coalition of the fringes togehter.

  147. @Random Dude on the Internet
    @Chase

    They are definitely trying to prime the pump for a color revolution style coup. They forget that this isn't Europe and the party that is in power has dozens of millions of well armed supporters who aren't going to sit idly by while petulant leftists and angry illegal immigrants try to overthrow their government. George Soros seems to forget about this bit of political calculus. I think he just assumes to keep having enough riots until the other side just concedes, which is how they seem to do things in Europe.

    This is why the GOP will win the 2018 midterms: any goodwill the Democrats had with moderates and independents is quickly being burned through. These people prize stability above all else (aka the "MUH 401K" factor) and the Democrats throwing a perpetual fit is rubbing John and Jane Normie the wrong way even if they voted for Clinton or Johnson in 2016. Add in some anti-white DNC leadership and you got guaranteed gains by the GOP in 2018. That is good news because then John McCain and Lindsey Graham lose all of their power and can be ignored.

    Replies: @Pericles

    The Rainbow Revolution.

  148. @Amasius
    LoL @ liberals fighting to remove Trump. Do they have any idea who Mike Pence is? Goodbye all forms of welfare, goodbye "LGBT" "rights," goodbye Roe V. Wade, goodbye remaining jobs that haven't been outsourced yet, hello bigass wars in the Middle East maybe Russia too. Pence would basically get to rule as a dictator with heavy Republican majorities marching in lockstep with his evangelical-libertarian neocon policies. But you'll get your precious immigrants! Plenty of them when they pass "immigration reform" and amnesty the 40 million and up the greencards to 5 million a year and quadruple H1B visas. That's all that matters, right!?

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian, @MusicalE

    I agree with this, I am not a Trump fan, but Pence would be 100% worst. I come to the point that I really don’t care anymore. If Trump gets impeached as my fellow liberals want, the things that you wrote are going to come to pass. When I get calls to resist when we going to war with Russia and the draft gets imposed I am just going to laugh.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @MusicalE


    I agree with this, I am not a Trump fan, but Pence would be 100% worst. I come to the point that I really don’t care anymore. If Trump gets impeached as my fellow liberals want, the things that you wrote are going to come to pass. When I get calls to resist when we going to war with Russia and the draft gets imposed I am just going to laugh.
     
    Don't worry, there won't be any conventional war. It will start with hypersonic MRVs turning the geographical location of Deep State-- the Acela corridor-- to glass. And within 20 minutes the Bay Area and LA. Then the war will begin.
  149. @IHTG
    To be fair, Trump is kind of doing the same to them

    Replies: @Joe Walker, @Mr. Anon

    An important distinction is that we can’t vote out the media. Unlike Trump, the media is not answerable to the people. Even if people won’t purchase the products of the media, they can still find sympathetic billionaires like Carlos Slim to keep them in business.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Joe Walker

    Oh, I don't know. There are boycotts. Breitbart is now website number 29 even after being dropped by a variety of big businesses. Sure Carlos Slim can prop up a few outlets like the NYT but legacy media are dropping like flies.

    There's no formal procedure for voting them out, but you can attack a media outlet by boycotting it and encouraging its advertisers to drop it.

  150. @Opinionator
    @Mr. Anon

    Who cried?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Martha Raddatz, for one. There may have been others, I don’t know. What is clear is that the response of the on-air presenters of most every network revealed that they are not neutral reporters, conveying the news, but rather partisan actors, taking a side. The same goes for the late-night talk-show hosts, who used to view themselves purely as entertainers, but now obviously don’t mind alienating half of their potential audience.

  151. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I’m beginning to wonder if the Deep State’s attempt to get rid of Trump and his people has less to do with liberal ideology and more to do with the fact that the remaining Obama bureaucrats are so utterly tainted by corruption, graft, bribery, kickbacks (ala big city Detroit or Chicago-style corruption), and even more heinous things that they’re all going to jail the minute this is found out by the Trump people, and their war on Trump is a desperate attempt to stave off this fate.

    Just to give one example, if the CIA helped create ISIS, which everyone seems to think is true, of course they’d want to keep Trump from scrutinizing their involvement in the nastiest terrorist organization ever. The CIA people who did this deserve to be raked over the coals in war crime trials akin to the Nuremberg trials after the fall of Nazi Germany. If this happened at Obama’s orders, he needs to tried as well.

    One thing I’ve always noticed about Obama is that he corrupts all of his followers. At some point or another he demands that they do something morally appalling or break the law to support him, and they always comply without a qualm.

  152. I read on some Wall Street Journal fan site that the New York Times is buying bots from China to increase readership and subscriber counts. Anyone have any verification on this? (Seems too good to be true!)

    This is SCREAMING federal investigation and fraud. My my, wouldn’t that be something? To see NYT brass frog-marched past the cameras for defrauding customers and investors? Not to mention the “China hacking our political process in collusion with Big Media” angle.

    the Judge orders the LightWorker himself, Barack Hussein Obama, to rule for the next ten years.

    Whis, you’ve really gone off the deep end with this “third term for Hussein” thing. Thanks for that.

  153. @Massimo Heitor
    Who does the NYT think they are? They can't remove the president because they don't like him. And they can't just fabricate some nonsense legal trick to push him out of office either.

    They have to respect the sitting president who was fairly elected president.

    Replies: @JimB, @mobi

    They have to respect the sitting president who was fairly elected president.

    I’m afraid they don’t ‘have to’ do anything just because you or I want them to.

  154. @AndrewR
    @TangoMan

    They don't have to explicitly provide a "mea culpa." They just have to stop being hacks. People can intuitively detect fair treatment. I used to hold a number of media organizations in high regard until one day I just realized that they were no longer deserving of my respect. It's not like any of them just came out and said "we are shameless whores of globalist scum and will lap up every drop of globalist jizz for an extra nickle." But this was the overwhelming subtext.

    Replies: @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Steve, could you please delete comments about licking semen off the floor?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @40 Acres and A Kardashian

    Maybe you have the best handle ever.

  155. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    When did I start using the term "deep state?"

    When I got back from Turkey in 2009?

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/06/deep-state.html

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Bill P

    “Not in my lifetime”

    “They’re not all like that”

    We are moving out of that stage of language usage. That means the politics is changing. I believe those two phrases were designed to stifle or paralyze any attempt to change the course of American politics. Taught in schools? Talk radio? TV or movies? Newspapers? I don’t know when and where they started.

    I hope we can dislodge the use of the word “establishment” too. Ruling Class and Deep State are much more sinister and evocative of darkness and dread.

  156. @Opinionator
    @CrunchybutRealistCon

    There is simply no way that a Pim Fortuyn event would be taken in stride by the public now. If Trump disappeared and was replaced by Deep State connivers w/ a Neocon agenda, it would lead to fissures too deep. A civil war, or at the least, civil disobedience would be so widespread as to make the US ungovernable.

    I don't see that happening. His supporters hold effectively no real power in our country other than their right to cast a vote every four years. They are fragmented, lacking formal power positions, relatively unskilled, and demoralized. And they are too law abiding.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @mobi

    I don’t see that happening. His supporters hold effectively no real power in our country other than their right to cast a vote every four years. They are fragmented, lacking formal power positions, relatively unskilled, and demoralized. And they are too law abiding.

    This is all very true – until, suddenly, it isn’t.

    Peace, order, and complacency, by implication, always precede their disappearance.

    The tensions are building, undeniably. Shockingly quickly. In that case, events have a way of ‘coming out nowhere’, and spiraling out of anyone’s control. They truly do.

    The powderkeg-waiting-for-a-lit-match analogy seems apropo here. Or ‘the shot heard round the world’, even better (who would have guessed what would follow?)

    Removing Trump, most assuredly, would not dial down the buildup.

    The genie well and truly is part-way out of the bottle, which is why they’re getting so hysterical in the first place.

  157. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    When did I start using the term "deep state?"

    When I got back from Turkey in 2009?

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/06/deep-state.html

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Bill P

    Yes, it was after you went to Turkey. I found it a bit boring at the time, partly because a former boss used to talk about the same thing a lot (although he would use the term “Byzantine”), but it turned out that you were really on to something. I never would have guessed that the term would catch on as it has and come to be used so widely. Maybe it’s because it’s got a catchy sort of ominous sound to it. Whatever the case, good work; as you’ve been suggesting recently, people may need conceptual tools to understand what’s going on, and “deep state” is a good one. I bet our grandkids will be reading about the “deep state” in history books someday.

  158. @snorlax
    @Autochthon

    Council on Foreign Relations. A blast-from-the-past favorite of conspiracy theorists during the John Birch Society era. Anyway they're WASPy Republican realists with Russophile tendencies, so they're pro-Trump for the most part.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, is as “WASPy” as Madeleine Albright.

    Richard Hass is a Jewish globalizer who pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration and endless overseas war.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Charles Pewitt

    I believe he's connected to the Haass Russell family that owns most of Levi Strauss jeans.

  159. @wiseguy
    The coining of the term "Fake News" by the leftist establishment was a more horrific blunder than they even realize yet.
    Trump and the right will likely soon move beyond excoriating just Fake News and use the Fake descriptor to delegitimize, or at least impugn, all of the other phony stuff in the left's arsenal:

    Fake Education—The indoctrination that passes itself off as a real education that teaches man important truths.

    Fake Entertainment—The propaganda, like female Ghostbusters or Modern Family, that pretends to be actual entertainment.

    Fake Art—The modern monstrosities that debase and revolt man instead of uplift him like true art.

    Fake Intelligence—"The election was hacked by Muh Russians."

    Fake Work—The worthless jobs that our economy has become saturated with. See affirmative action jobs, HR cat-lady workers, and all the time wasting activities implemented by managers and regulators for CYA purposes.

    One could go on and on in this vein.

    Replies: @Robert Weissberg, @Rifleman

    The coining of the term “Fake News” by the leftist establishment was a more horrific blunder than they even realize yet.

    Fake History – when “Hidden Figures” and cast win Oscars for their “black women pioneer the Space age” movie.

  160. @Hail
    Trump won, but "the regime" still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically "get rid of" them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.


    https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/832590618027102208

    Replies: @Patrick Harris, @Lurker, @snorlax, @wren, @ben tillman

    Trump won, but “the regime” still exists, still holds effective power.

    The regime: a network of thousands of unelected, aggressively self-righteous types, prone to nation-wrecking, foreign and domestic.

    As they are not up for election, there is no way to democratically “get rid of” them (to quote Mr. Kristol).

    How quaint! A latter day aristocracy.

    “Aristicrcay” is government by the best. Perhaps “kakistocracy” is the word you’re looking for.

    Kakistocracy is government by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens.

  161. @King Baeksu
    As far as our national politics are concerned, at least, the remit of the New York Times at present is to engage in PsyOps on behalf of the Establishment. The solution is to make it understood by as many people as possible that it is no longer a respectable or reliable news organization (if it ever was), given that many of its readers are still under the delusion that it actually is. One might note the President Trump invariably refers to it as the "failing New York Times," so he is doing his own part to undermine the brand. A continued assault on the Old Gray Lady via social media and elsewhere seems the best long-term strategy.

    For several years I taught at a university in Northeast China, from 2010-2013. One class I even used a column by Paul Krugman as reading material, which nearly provoked a revolt by my students as the bias against China was apparent even to non-native speakers of English. (Not long afterwards, the site was blocked by the "Great Fire Wall.") It's clear that Chinese nationalism – along with US or Russian nationalism – is an affront to the US-ensconced Establishment and the heavy hitters at the New York Times, given their own globalist agenda.

    Going by their comments, it says something about the provincialism of America's liberal "elites" that they seem to have a less sophisticated understanding of what the New York Times is all about than even 19-year-old Chinese undergraduates whose parents were either farmers or factory workers for the most part. If they wish to continue to read the New York Times, that's fine, but they must be disabused of the fiction that it is still in the business of peddling actual news. It is propaganda first and foremost, and therefore no longer deserves any of the lingering "prestige" that it has managed to accrue over the years.

    The Jew York Times is indeed fake news. That's right, I just said it.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Going by their comments, it says something about the provincialism of America’s liberal “elites” that they seem to have a less sophisticated understanding of what the New York Times is all about than even 19-year-old Chinese undergraduates whose parents were either farmers or factory workers for the most part. If they wish to continue to read the New York Times, that’s fine, but they must be disabused of the fiction that it is still in the business of peddling actual news. It is propaganda first and foremost, and therefore no longer deserves any of the lingering “prestige” that it has managed to accrue over the years.

    Edward Bernays — Freud’s double nephew, member of the Creel Committee, and the man who sold cigarettes to women as Torches of Freedom — reported in his 1928 book Propaganda that he had looked at the front page of a New York Times edition and ascertained that half the stories were propaganda.

  162. @Autochthon
    The easiest way to escape the man is of course to leave. Sacred and holy immigration to diverse and vibrant places without white privilege issues a clarion call to all this lot. I hear Libya has barely any restrictions at all on it's borders, no Christianity to speak of, and not many Europeans at all – a veritable Paradise for these people! Yet they will not leave. Not even the ones who promised to (Dunham, Cyrus, Handler, et al.).

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    The one question that they can’t answer: Why do all of their beloved people of color want to come to the racist, misogynist, fascist hellhole that they hate so much?

  163. @40 Acres and A Kardashian
    @AndrewR

    Steve, could you please delete comments about licking semen off the floor?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Maybe you have the best handle ever.

  164. @donut
    @Pseudonymic Handle

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwPRH_u2rl8

    Replies: @neutral, @donut

    Subscribe to Black Pigeon .

  165. @Joe Walker
    @IHTG

    An important distinction is that we can't vote out the media. Unlike Trump, the media is not answerable to the people. Even if people won't purchase the products of the media, they can still find sympathetic billionaires like Carlos Slim to keep them in business.

    Replies: @SFG

    Oh, I don’t know. There are boycotts. Breitbart is now website number 29 even after being dropped by a variety of big businesses. Sure Carlos Slim can prop up a few outlets like the NYT but legacy media are dropping like flies.

    There’s no formal procedure for voting them out, but you can attack a media outlet by boycotting it and encouraging its advertisers to drop it.

  166. Maybe you have the best handle ever.

    Falls far short of the “Trump places the world’s smallest Make America Great Again hat on a Zika-head baby” guy.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    @Svigor

    "Trump places the world’s smallest Make America Great Again hat on a Zika-head baby”
    Mr crankypants Unz yelled at us for having long nics.

  167. @Whiskey
    This is all orchestrated. Not by Soros though no doubt he is funding it. But Soros is too old and tired to be behind it. No its his main man ... the dude he funded for decades, the ex President himself. One Barack Hussein Obama. Still living in DC.

    NO ex President ever stuck around in DC. None. All wanted to get the hell out as soon as possible. Who sticks around in DC? An Ex President angling to return.

    The playbook is obvious. Get some Federal Judge to declare Trump guilt of "treason" or racism or sexism or Islamaphobia or something. Because its Tuesday or he didn't grovel enough to the religion of pieces, whatever. Pence has to go too, because racism!

    Then "to heal the planet" etc, the Judge orders the LightWorker himself, Barack Hussein Obama, to rule for the next ten years. Just to move the "healing process" along. And have more healing. Blue haired sluts, angry shaven headed Black lesbians, ugly fat White lesbians, gay nancy boys, Lena Dunham, Sarah Silverman, the NYT, the CIA, FBI, IRS, Government bureaucracy , John Lettuce McCain, "Light in his loafers" Lindsay Grahmnesty, Sing A Long with Mitch McConnell, and your new neighbor, Abu Jihad Mohammed Jihad Hijab Jihad will all begin to heal. [You'll need to heal too, if you survive Abu Jihad Mohammed ... aw the hell with it, Jihad's explosions from the bomb factory in his duplex.]

    That's the Raila Odinga Playbook. Obama got elected because the Good Whites, cucked feminist scandis all, overwhelmed us Bad Whites as fairly cucked scandi candidates like Juan McCain and Mittens Romney depressed Bad White turnout. Just like his cousin in Kenya, Obama won't go quietly. He'll burn down the country until it accedes to the "logic" of making him another Kim Jong Un.

    In no way is Obama even remotely American. Kenyan/Indonesian with hefty dose of Pakistan thrown in yes. But American, no. This is his cousin Raila Odinga's playbook. Civil War has started.

    Replies: @eD, @BB753, @Diversity Heretic

    Nah, Obama is too dumb and lazy to be planning a coup. It’s Soros and the Permanent Government (including the Deep State). No Scandis are involved.

  168. @Anon
    Now, I've seen everything.

    WWP or World War Pewdiepie.

    I can't believe the media picked a fight with a goofball named pewdiepie.

    What is this world coming to?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ulkykn7jc

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted, @silviosilver

    It seems like a textbook case of the “pour encourager les autres” mindset that’s been with us for decades (with respect to race). It’s also possible he came into the crosshairs of media powerbrokers thanks to the efforts rank-and-file SJWs, and therefore even if it were judged unwise to persecute someone as tame as pdp, it may have been judged even more unwise to disappoint the SJW street brigades – out of fear for one’s own position for “ignoring” pdp’s horrific racism and anti-semitism if nothing else.

  169. @Anonymous
    Alex Jones says insiders are trying to force Trump's longtime personal security team out of the picture.

    I had wondered about this and apparently Trump still has two layers of security and never let the SS take over completely.

    Lots of recent evidence that the SS has institutional problems........

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted, @Alden

    “Institutional problems” Actually they are affirmative action problems.

  170. @Charles Pewitt
    @snorlax

    Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, is as "WASPy" as Madeleine Albright.

    Richard Hass is a Jewish globalizer who pushes nation-wrecking mass immigration and endless overseas war.

    Replies: @Alden

    I believe he’s connected to the Haass Russell family that owns most of Levi Strauss jeans.

  171. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Autochthon

    It's the Crash, Fire, Rescue trucks that support Trump. He favors buying more foam for foaming the runways, you know, with all the Asiana operations on the west coast.

    It is hard for me to keep all of these acronyms straight too. We have a Feral app agency for that, the Joint Agency for the Creation of Acronyms and Stupid Shit - JACASS. If you need an acronym decoded, like stat, try to get JACASS on the blower.

    Replies: @Alden

    I used to work for a county agency whose mission was to release black criminals from prison

    Madison Area Group Guidance On Target or, MAGGOT

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Alden

    And do you REMEMBER the scandal when the Fitchburg/Allied sister group formed...then was forcibly dissolved by a passel of coked up drag queens from Club de Wash?

    Sad times. Wigs, sequins, fake eyelashes, and feather boas all over the place.

  172. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MusicalE
    @Amasius

    I agree with this, I am not a Trump fan, but Pence would be 100% worst. I come to the point that I really don't care anymore. If Trump gets impeached as my fellow liberals want, the things that you wrote are going to come to pass. When I get calls to resist when we going to war with Russia and the draft gets imposed I am just going to laugh.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I agree with this, I am not a Trump fan, but Pence would be 100% worst. I come to the point that I really don’t care anymore. If Trump gets impeached as my fellow liberals want, the things that you wrote are going to come to pass. When I get calls to resist when we going to war with Russia and the draft gets imposed I am just going to laugh.

    Don’t worry, there won’t be any conventional war. It will start with hypersonic MRVs turning the geographical location of Deep State– the Acela corridor– to glass. And within 20 minutes the Bay Area and LA. Then the war will begin.

  173. @Svigor

    Maybe you have the best handle ever.
     
    Falls far short of the "Trump places the world's smallest Make America Great Again hat on a Zika-head baby" guy.

    Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...

    “Trump places the world’s smallest Make America Great Again hat on a Zika-head baby”
    Mr crankypants Unz yelled at us for having long nics.

  174. @Robert Weissberg
    @wiseguy

    Great insights. I live in NYC and have noticed a thriving market in fakes. Many look just like fakes but people buy them anyhow. Perhaps this is post-modern consumerism--no distinction between fake and real.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    Perhaps this is post-modern consumerism–no distinction between fake and real.

    Wasn’t that the essence of Baudrillard’s argument — except that he extended it to everything in postmodern life, not just consumerism?

  175. Haha Paul Walker, were you that guy?

    ***

    There will be no war with Russia, come Pence or anyone else, the MotU have a Hell of a lot more to lose than the Russians do in toe to toe nukl’r combat. The MotU will practice Brinksmanship, pushing to see how much they can nibble off of Russia, but if they get a bloody nose over it, they’ll pivot, not escalate to a broader shooting war. I could see a proxy war or two, maybe.

    This is all assuming the MotU don’t have some insane ace up their sleeve, like a ballistic missile shield that can really counter earnest nuclear strikes from Russia.

  176. anon • Disclaimer says:

    If the country is in such awful shape and so divided, then why is the US Stock Market at record high levels? Why is the $US 20 to 25% stronger than it was 3 years ago?

    1. All the talking heads are too old to even participate in a bar fight, much less a revolution.

    2. The ‘youth’ that could trash up their universities care about micro aggressions. Triggering. Safe Spaces.

    3. This has something to do with Twitter and Facebook. There IS a Revolution of people in the midst of a revolution in their mind, reinforced with endless typing to each other on line. We have a revolution on Twitter. And we have a print media that barely exists in print anymore. They no longer buy ink by the barrel.

    4. We also have a real world where very few watch cable news 24/7. Where people actually have to go to work and live.

    5. The most burning issues are ones that have zero impact on people in their day to day lives. Immigration is a long term catastrophe, but short term is not particularly noticeable to anyone I know. The wars are far away. Are we going to really mix it up with Russia? There seems to be an enormous effort to conflate Russia with the USSR.

    The US economy is the best in the developed world. People aren’t hungry, they are obese. Nothing that is being obsessed over is causing anyone a physical problem in the real world. Their feelings are hurt.

    And the Trump presidency? It is starting to look like nothing is going to happen. Which, best case, means no new wars. Immigration law won’t be changed, but it will be enforced to a slightly greater extent. And the issue can’t be ignored. Everything else? There is too much FUD (fear uncertainty doubt) to do anything big.

    BUT ….

    Simply doing nothing is a huge improvement. Its enough to have created a burst of optimism and animal spirits in the economy.

    The US has never been safer.

    In addition to the fact we have no serious military rivals and the best performing economy post 2008 among developed countries, we are now the worlds largest petroleum producer. We have what now looks like a sustainable competitive advantage for at least a couple of decades in cheap natural gas. Roughly half of our persistent balance of payments deficit has been due to oil imports. It is mostly gone. The thrust of the peak oil argument was that it was both inevitable and would be highly disruptive at minimum and more likely economically catastrophic. Instead, what we have seen is gasoline prices that were ‘too low’ and North Dakota is no longer booming.

    There has never been more to argue about on Twitter. Bloviation has never been as cheap, accessible, and ubiquitous.

    And less to care enough about to even suffer a bloody nose, much less fight another civil war.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @anon

    What is the revolution on Twitter to which you refer?

  177. @Random Dude on the Internet
    > How Can We Get Rid of Trump?

    On January 20, 2025

    Replies: @Parsifal

    Once Trump gets Congressional supermajority and enough states legislatures in 2020 the 22nd amendment will be repealed.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Parsifal

    I doubt it. Even Trump will be 78 at that age, and though I approve of him, even he has to go sometime. I'd rather have someone on the right who's younger than him be in charge in 8 years.

  178. The best answer to “How Can We Get Rid Of Trump?” is “why do you use the word we, paleface?”

  179. @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I used to work for a county agency whose mission was to release black criminals from prison

    Madison Area Group Guidance On Target or, MAGGOT

    Replies: @Olorin

    And do you REMEMBER the scandal when the Fitchburg/Allied sister group formed…then was forcibly dissolved by a passel of coked up drag queens from Club de Wash?

    Sad times. Wigs, sequins, fake eyelashes, and feather boas all over the place.

  180. @anon
    If the country is in such awful shape and so divided, then why is the US Stock Market at record high levels? Why is the $US 20 to 25% stronger than it was 3 years ago?

    1. All the talking heads are too old to even participate in a bar fight, much less a revolution.

    2. The 'youth' that could trash up their universities care about micro aggressions. Triggering. Safe Spaces.

    3. This has something to do with Twitter and Facebook. There IS a Revolution of people in the midst of a revolution in their mind, reinforced with endless typing to each other on line. We have a revolution on Twitter. And we have a print media that barely exists in print anymore. They no longer buy ink by the barrel.

    4. We also have a real world where very few watch cable news 24/7. Where people actually have to go to work and live.

    5. The most burning issues are ones that have zero impact on people in their day to day lives. Immigration is a long term catastrophe, but short term is not particularly noticeable to anyone I know. The wars are far away. Are we going to really mix it up with Russia? There seems to be an enormous effort to conflate Russia with the USSR.

    The US economy is the best in the developed world. People aren't hungry, they are obese. Nothing that is being obsessed over is causing anyone a physical problem in the real world. Their feelings are hurt.

    And the Trump presidency? It is starting to look like nothing is going to happen. Which, best case, means no new wars. Immigration law won't be changed, but it will be enforced to a slightly greater extent. And the issue can't be ignored. Everything else? There is too much FUD (fear uncertainty doubt) to do anything big.

    BUT ....

    Simply doing nothing is a huge improvement. Its enough to have created a burst of optimism and animal spirits in the economy.

    The US has never been safer.

    In addition to the fact we have no serious military rivals and the best performing economy post 2008 among developed countries, we are now the worlds largest petroleum producer. We have what now looks like a sustainable competitive advantage for at least a couple of decades in cheap natural gas. Roughly half of our persistent balance of payments deficit has been due to oil imports. It is mostly gone. The thrust of the peak oil argument was that it was both inevitable and would be highly disruptive at minimum and more likely economically catastrophic. Instead, what we have seen is gasoline prices that were 'too low' and North Dakota is no longer booming.

    There has never been more to argue about on Twitter. Bloviation has never been as cheap, accessible, and ubiquitous.

    And less to care enough about to even suffer a bloody nose, much less fight another civil war.

    Replies: @Opinionator

    What is the revolution on Twitter to which you refer?

  181. @Parsifal
    @Random Dude on the Internet

    Once Trump gets Congressional supermajority and enough states legislatures in 2020 the 22nd amendment will be repealed.

    Replies: @Anon

    I doubt it. Even Trump will be 78 at that age, and though I approve of him, even he has to go sometime. I’d rather have someone on the right who’s younger than him be in charge in 8 years.

  182. @Whiskey
    This is all orchestrated. Not by Soros though no doubt he is funding it. But Soros is too old and tired to be behind it. No its his main man ... the dude he funded for decades, the ex President himself. One Barack Hussein Obama. Still living in DC.

    NO ex President ever stuck around in DC. None. All wanted to get the hell out as soon as possible. Who sticks around in DC? An Ex President angling to return.

    The playbook is obvious. Get some Federal Judge to declare Trump guilt of "treason" or racism or sexism or Islamaphobia or something. Because its Tuesday or he didn't grovel enough to the religion of pieces, whatever. Pence has to go too, because racism!

    Then "to heal the planet" etc, the Judge orders the LightWorker himself, Barack Hussein Obama, to rule for the next ten years. Just to move the "healing process" along. And have more healing. Blue haired sluts, angry shaven headed Black lesbians, ugly fat White lesbians, gay nancy boys, Lena Dunham, Sarah Silverman, the NYT, the CIA, FBI, IRS, Government bureaucracy , John Lettuce McCain, "Light in his loafers" Lindsay Grahmnesty, Sing A Long with Mitch McConnell, and your new neighbor, Abu Jihad Mohammed Jihad Hijab Jihad will all begin to heal. [You'll need to heal too, if you survive Abu Jihad Mohammed ... aw the hell with it, Jihad's explosions from the bomb factory in his duplex.]

    That's the Raila Odinga Playbook. Obama got elected because the Good Whites, cucked feminist scandis all, overwhelmed us Bad Whites as fairly cucked scandi candidates like Juan McCain and Mittens Romney depressed Bad White turnout. Just like his cousin in Kenya, Obama won't go quietly. He'll burn down the country until it accedes to the "logic" of making him another Kim Jong Un.

    In no way is Obama even remotely American. Kenyan/Indonesian with hefty dose of Pakistan thrown in yes. But American, no. This is his cousin Raila Odinga's playbook. Civil War has started.

    Replies: @eD, @BB753, @Diversity Heretic

    Would the military and law enforcement obey Obama’s orders under those circumstances, or under any remotely similar circumstances? It may finally come down to that. Civil War II in the U.S. won’t be War Between the States, but a whole lot of regular military, National Guard, federal, state, local police and even sheriffs deciding just whose orders they’re going to follow and whose side they’re going to line up on. The decentralized nature of the U.S. military and law enforcement is the wild card when rival presidents start issuing contradictory orders, not armed civilians.

    I don’t think Obama personally wants to come back–he really didn’t like the job and he’d have to work harder under the circumstances Whiskey describes. Hillary, on the other hand, assuming her medications can keep her health problems at bay, would be itching to pull some kind of a de facto coup.

  183. @eD
    @Whiskey

    "NO ex President ever stuck around in DC. None. All wanted to get the hell out as soon as possible. Who sticks around in DC? An Ex President angling to return."

    Woodrow Wilson hung around DC after leaving office, died there, and is entombed in the National Cathedral.

    John Quincy Adams was a Congressman and William Howard Taft a Supreme Court justice after their administrations ended. Both jobs involve spending lots of time in DC.

    George Washington lived in a place reachable by the DC metro, though to be fair the national capitol at the time was located in Philadelphia.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    In fairness to Whiskey, Wilson was a semi-invalid by the time he left office, and your other examples involved ex-Presidents with jobs that required them to be in Washington. All of them were before the modern Cult of the Imperial President. I don’t think, however, Obama really wants to return, but he does like the limelight of DC and he may well become the de facto opposition spokesman if the Democratic Party can’t keep the coalition of the fringes togehter.

  184. @IHTG
    To be fair, Trump is kind of doing the same to them

    Replies: @Joe Walker, @Mr. Anon

    To be fair, Trump is kind of doing the same to them

    No, that is not fair, and he is not doing that to them. He is not calling for them to be abolished, nor is he supressing them.

    Freedom of the Press does not mean they have the privelege of being exempt from criticism. Freedom of the Press does not mean that any particular press outlet has any particular right to be called on at a press conference.

  185. Release the hounds! Or forevermore be silenced.

    Don’t worry: Mr Kristof and his odious brethren will be sure to explain that you’re obviously choosing to voluntarily hold your peace, or you would surely be speaking up. (This, uh, IS a free country…..yes?)

    But understand that their first order of business, post-Trump, will be to hold a demonic conclave of all our juiced-in and unelected cultural Marxists, the better to hurriedly deface our foundational documents; thus forevermore ensuring that any future Trumps be lawfully smothered in the cradle.

    It’s not that Brimelow was right – it will come to blood – so much as it is that ever believing it would come to anything else was never more than wishful thinking. If last June in San Jose didn’t underline that inescapable truth, then Berkeley just three weeks ago did – and in red.

  186. @NOTA
    And the answer is obvious--wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That's how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Jefferson

    “And the answer is obvious–wait about three years, and then nominate someone appealing to the voters (not just the donors) to run against him, and beat him in the 2020 elections. That’s how you get rid of a president you think is doing a lousy job.”

    Nicholas Kristof is talking about wanting a 1963 Dallas scenario for Donald J. Trump, wink wink. Read between the lines man.

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