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In the New York Times TV section, veteran iSteve Content Generator Salamishah Tillet, professor of African-American and African studies and creative writing at Rutgers University, Newark where she teaches a class on “Black Rage,” brings us up to date on the important cultural trend in her favorite romance shows:

Interracial Romance, With Black Women as the Stars
In “Insecure,” “Love Is Blind” and “The Lovebirds,” these leading ladies are pushing back against dating bias in the real world.

By Salamishah Tillet
May 22, 2020
Updated 1:34 p.m. ET

… The Molly-Andrew relationship is part of a larger cultural trend in which black women, especially those of medium-to-dark-brown complexions — long positioned at the bottom of the aesthetic and social hierarchy in the United States because of racist standards — are increasingly appearing as leading ladies and romantic ideals in interracial relationships onscreen. In some cases, these are works created by black women themselves, like Rae’s “Insecure.” …

Ultimately, none of these interracial narratives can make up for our country’s violent racial past or the way that history continues to plague us. The trend remains mostly symbolic, with black women still on the lowest rung of the socio-economic ladder. Every once in a while, however, these fictionalized romances and reality show couples give us something to cheer for: a happily ever after in which the male partner acknowledges and begins to unravel his own racial privilege, not just out of love, but because it is the right thing to do.

 
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  1. Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian
    • LOL: Kronos
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Thomm

    Yeah, but how many different baby mamas? Do you have an excel spreadsheet to keep track of those.

    Also, I am skeptical that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder really had a total of 21 children. I think that's just how often the women promised that the kids looked like them. (Sorry about that one).

    Replies: @black sea, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Thomm


    Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children.
     
    Correction: the number of children they admit to.
    , @Hibernian
    @Thomm

    Mr. Charles and Mr. Wonder were blind, and also very successful. Also, many of these men you have listed have 4,5, or 6 kids.. You could go to an Irish neighborhood, like Beverly in Chicago, and find the same phenomenon.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @MBlanc46

    , @anon
    @Thomm


    They have not forgotten what is important.
     
    Just as my cows have not forgotten natural fertilizer improves soil.

    Don't mistake irresponsibility as thoughtfulness.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomm


    Barry White : 9
     
    "Mama, my love gonna come down on you like a squatting hippopotamus."

    -- p. 72: https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Audio/Archive-HiFI-Stereo/70s/HiFi-Stereo-Review-1975-12.pdf

    John Singleton : 7
     
    The name may fit him, but not them.

    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
     
    "Charles fathered a total of 12 children with ten different women"-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Charles#Relationships_and_children

    Jack certainly hit the road.

    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11

     

    That's punching above their weight class.

    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
     
    Son Rohan and Lauryn Hill gave him five American grandchildren. Raggamuffin was born in the US and lives in Miami now. Ziggy has four with his Israeli wife, and three more from earlier relationships. Don't know if any of those three are American, but that's Ziggy's voice on the opening and closing credits of the Arthur kids cartoons.
    , @syonredux
    @Thomm


    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW
     
    The equation is simple: BM-WW involves evil Beckys with good hair stealing quality Black men. Even worse, it makes Black women have negative feelings about their bad hair.....


    https://dlisted.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/eddie.jpg



    WM-BW, in contrast, puts those arrogant Beckys in their place and makes Black women feel pretty.....


    https://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Rick-Michonne.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @Duke84

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Thomm

    This is an important comment that should not be dismissed lightly.

    I don't know celebrity biographies, but I'm almost certain that vast majority of white, even "sexy" celebrities did not have as much children, with very few exceptions (Brando?).

    I guess this is because black women- and those pairings are, with a few exceptions, with black females - have retained procreative potential/irresponsibility, unlike white females.

    Replies: @Thoughts, @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Thomm

    Berry Gordy is an exceptional offense in that his offspring were utterly talentless. Despite that, two of them managed to assault the auditory senses of the general public: Rockwell in the 80’s with “Somebody’s Watching Me”, which was a hit only because his Dad pulled strings and got Michael Jackson to sing the chorus, and then decades later Redfoo hit the charts with the horrific “I’m Sexy and I Know it.”

    , @RAZ
    @Thomm

    Followers of the quiverfull movement. But the Duggars (19, and still counting?) have them all beat except for Elijah. Though Duggars had them all together.

    Except for a few outliers, most of those on the list are about 4 or 5 kids. Maybe not that different from well known famous white entertainers/sports figures who have had several wives? I just randomly looked up Bob Dylan and he had 6.

    Replies: @njguy73

    , @Morton's toes
    @Thomm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Murphy

    14 children with 9 women

    I believe Calvin Murphy is the last athlete I ever heard a sports news reporter make an issue of it. The closest we have come in recent years is some chaff at the end of the reports on Bill O'Brien trading Deandre Hopkins for next-to-nothing. At some point between Calvin Murphy and Deandre Hopkins this became a topic that the audience was better off without any accurate information.

    , @njguy73
    @Thomm

    Don't forget:

    Calvin Murphy: 14
    Antonio Cromartie: 14
    Shawn Kemp: 7

    And then there's Screamin' Jay Hawkins. He may have had up to 75.

    Replies: @Thomm

    , @VinnyVette
    @Thomm

    And those are only the ones they know about! Gottsa be some baby Mama's out there unaccounted for!

    , @Mike Tre
    @Thomm

    " They have not forgotten what is important. "

    Yeah, dump and run.

    Don't pretend like negroes in general have any clue about the importance of reproductive rates. If something feels good now, it doesn't matter what consequences follow.

    , @dcthrowback
    @Thomm

    I love the tale of "Screaming'" Jay Hawkins, who had a website set up to identify his 30+ kids he fathered while touring the world on the basis of his (truly excellent) "I Put A Spell On You".

    Travis Henry, RB, of Buffalo Bills fame - 9 kids. Antonio Cromartie being unable to name his 8 kids was a staple .mov from HBO's excellent "Hard Knocks" NFL Training camp series:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ecCL7-E0M

    Being the big man means never having to worry about the future. In many cases, it will just take care of itself.

    , @james wilson
    @Thomm

    Ha, no. In many cases this has nothing to do with the men, everything to do with women drawn to money and fame. The men are donors. No money or fame? Still no shortage of donors. Dennis Rodman's father totaled 23. Since there is a great shortage of suitable males other standards are substituted.
    Also, MLK, 4 that you know of. Many of those numbers are low.

    , @Art Deco
    @Thomm

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children.

    Almost no one is famous. The total fertility rate for black women is 2.1 children per woman per lifetime. While we're at it, about 1/2 of the people on your list would not have been out of the ordinary in my parents' circle of friends. Four or five children is a sweet complement; it's not a 'huge' complement.

    , @obwandiyag
    @Thomm

    Screamin' Jay Hawkins

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Thomm

    Screamin' Jay Hawkins: 33 identified, claimed 57 or sometimes 75.

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @Thomm

    Eddie Murphy has 10 children? If he learned how to distinguish between a real woman and a tranny, he'd have still more.

  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamishah_Tillet

    Check out her wiki. It is all self-authored. I will give her credit for looking 75% on the scale of blackitude and not some bitchy Creole-Octaroon-Megan Markle-light skin fake artist/ We are getting some truth from this 40+ girl. Who btw…… Cov19 or no Cov19, this useless eater parasite is currently gettin’ paid via taxpayers via Rutgers U.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Clyde

    That’s one long wiki bio. A ton of fluff.

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Clyde

    It appears that she is/has been a "Silk Burner" or Chinese academic looking types have a hobby as a chimney sweep.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/rutgersnewark/27361576148

    , @Kibernetika
    @Clyde

    Well, I must confess to fantasizing about Stacey Abrams as a romantic partner. We don't have much in common, but I imagine scooching up next to her at a bar. Yeah. Now husky voice, and whispering in her ear that she reminds me of a fertility figurine from the paleolithic.

    And I've got good insurance, so her inevitable type-2 diabetes is no problem. I want to put her in the bath tub, figure her mass from the displacement of water, whisper "eureka" in her ear and: Touch. Her. Hair.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Pericles

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @Clyde

    The bottom line is she's rejecting black guys; odds are her "serial rapist" was black. She's also hinting that, in her view, eugenics/selective breeding would necessitate making whiter and whiter descendants.

  3. How long before Thomas Jefferson is celebrated for lusting after a black woman and therefore raising black women’s self-esteem?

    Black Self-Esteem has rapidly ascended to become our society’s highest deity and all our communal and personal rituals and theologies must serve to support it.

    • LOL: Tsar Nicholas
    • Replies: @Lloyd1927
    @Coag

    Sally Hemings was 3/4 white (the daughter of Jefferson's father-in-law).

    The only known descriptions of Hemings come from another slave at Monticello, Isaac Jefferson, who stated that she was "mighty near white ... very handsome, long straight hair down her back," and Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall, who once recalled Jefferson's grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph's description of Hemings: "[She was] light colored and decidedly good looking."

    So, while blacks foolishly claim Hemings as an icon and black women imagine resting their kinky heads on the breast of the great TJ, the truth is very different.

    Replies: @Coag, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob, @Mr. Grey, @Truth

    , @Slimer
    @Coag

    POC Self-Esteem, with Indian men, East Asian men and black women leading the charge...against what's now termed sexual racism, which is a fancy way of describing the state of being undesired by white people.

    Asian-American man plans lawsuit to stop 'sexual racism' on Grindr
    After seeing “Not interested in Asians” on the profile of a fellow Grindr user, Sinakhone Keodara threatened the gay dating app with a class-action lawsuit.
     

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/asian-american-man-threatens-class-action-discrimination-suit-against-grindr-n890946

    After 'sexual racism' accusations, gay dating app Grindr gets 'Kindr'
    Grindr launched the new "Kindr" initiative this week to combat "racism, bullying, or other forms of toxic behavior" on its popular gay dating app.

     

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/after-sexual-racism-accusations-gay-day-app-grindr-gets-kindr-n912196

    Journal Article
    Sexual Racism: Intimacy as a Matter of Justice
    Sonu Bedi
    The Journal of Politics
    Vol. 77, No. 4 (October 2015), pp. 998-1011
     

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/682749?seq=1

    https://faculty-directory.dartmouth.edu/sonu-s-bedi

    Heterosexual black men and Latinos seem to be the only POC not partaking in this movement. If they are I can't find any examples of it online.

  4. Author’s bio says she got raped in college. Twice.

    Something doesn’t seem right. There’s no mention of her calling the police afterwards. You’d think the second time, you’d wise up and want to get the guy in trouble. Was she dating only blacks back then?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Anon


    Author’s bio says she got raped in college. Twice.

    Something doesn’t seem right.
     

    Maybe she made it up, maybe she didn't. Who's to know? I do know this: no self-respecting and even remotely-feminist woman in the year 2020 would dare venture into the public realm without a couple of rape histories to relate. Very seldom were they ever reported (or even mentioned) at or near the time they are supposed to have occurred. Ya gotta hand that one to Jackie Coakley--she wasted no time telling her story.

    Replies: @dcthrowback

    , @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Either she has had an incredible run of bad luck, or she's very imprudent about who she spends time with where, or she's lying her tuchus off.

    , @Pop Warner
    @Anon

    A white man smirked at her, which we all know is one of the most violent and heinous acts of white supremacy known

  5. I wonder if any of the recent cultural conservatives and revisionists of the post-WWII American cultural scene has written a good book on the enlistment of daytime TV soap operas in the selling of the cultural revolution to American women. The normalization of casual sex, divorce, homosexual lifestyles, etc. seems to owe a lot to these topics receiving emotional moving, persuasive presentation on the soaps.

    • Agree: flyingtiger
    • Thanks: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Father Coughlin
    @Jim Given

    Not an expert, but when I watched YATR with the presbytera I never really saw casual sex of the meet a stranger at the bar and go home that night variety. And YATR resisted fahggots and inter-racial for a long time... longer than did prime time TV.

    The divorce is mostly plot-driven. Its darn hard to keep a soap going as long as they want it to if your most popular characters only get married once. I've always found soap operas "more real", in both dialogue and plot, than their prime time TV "serious" counterparts ... and less propagandistic.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  6. Sorry, but black women can blame their own men if they aren’t considered pretty enough to play the love/lust interests in Hollywood. Black male stars demanded and got mulatto women (most of them the daughters of white mothers) to play their supposedly “black” leading ladies or sexual interests in movies, TV and videos. This practice can be so ridiculous that a black male will be paired with a woman white enough to play an Italian in a “Godfather” movie and we are supposed to sit back and be “color-blind” about it, pretending that the women are “black.”. If black males WANTED to play opposite women as black as themselves, Hollywood would have accommodated them.

    • Agree: Pop Warner
    • Replies: @anon
    @Lloyd1927

    Negro male actors probably have very little say in who plays opposite them. Mr. Cohen director does what Mr. Glickstein producer expects him to do. Actor Lewarne Jackson is told to play the love interest of the blackest of black Latoya Jefferson or the high yaller Lavine Mackindrick or be out of a job. Lewarne Jackson might be giving the impression to the media that he has a say in running the show (and Mr. Glickstein promotes that) which shows "black empowerment" is practiced in Hollywood and makes Mr. Glickstein and Mr. Cohen look good in the eyes of Liberals and government.

  7. This author emphasizes an essential aspect of modern marriage, one which cannot be discussed enough: marriage as therapy. But not the one-on-one form with Freud as paradigm. Rather, the Marxist-style (and prep-school style) confession of ones sins and acts of bourgeois unconsciousness to a group. I’m not sure if this would involve a group of mixed-race couples, and what activities, if any, would transpire after the round of group confessions. If I were good at this sort of thing, I would make up my ow religion.

    • Agree: Thoughts
    • Replies: @Thoughts
    @Jim Given

    Genius. Genius comment.


    Marriage as therapy

  8. She forgot to mention Mickey Donovan (played by Jon Voigt). He may not be a civil rights hero, but he’s a big fan of brown sugar.

  9. @Coag
    How long before Thomas Jefferson is celebrated for lusting after a black woman and therefore raising black women’s self-esteem?

    Black Self-Esteem has rapidly ascended to become our society’s highest deity and all our communal and personal rituals and theologies must serve to support it.

    Replies: @Lloyd1927, @Slimer

    Sally Hemings was 3/4 white (the daughter of Jefferson’s father-in-law).

    The only known descriptions of Hemings come from another slave at Monticello, Isaac Jefferson, who stated that she was “mighty near white … very handsome, long straight hair down her back,” and Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall, who once recalled Jefferson’s grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph’s description of Hemings: “[She was] light colored and decidedly good looking.”

    So, while blacks foolishly claim Hemings as an icon and black women imagine resting their kinky heads on the breast of the great TJ, the truth is very different.

    • Replies: @Coag
    @Lloyd1927

    Your white man’s “truth” withers away feebly before the high altar of Black Self-Esteem. Sally Hemings, like Cleopatra, was as dark as Precious. Amen.

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Lloyd1927

    The truth is, that the science (e.g. DNA regarding Hemmings' children paternity) is far from settled. This was all brought to a head by Fawn Brodie's 1974 biography on TJ. The one child of Hemmings was exhumed. The DNA tests showed that TJ in fact was NOT the father. There are other historical primary accounts that give credence that if anyone was the father to Hemmings' children, besides other slaves, it would've been TJ's nephew Randolph, who tended to hang out with slaves, make music and dance around, unlike his more reserved and much older uncle.

    Something to consider: In his will, Thomas Jefferson freed all his slaves, except for...Sally Hemmings.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Lloyd1927

    One of the more despicable things the loathsome BJC did was to promote this canard against TJ to distract attention from his antics.

    , @Mr. Grey
    @Lloyd1927

    I think she was actually 7/8th's white.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Truth
    @Lloyd1927

    Yes, Sally Hemmings was Jefferson's wife's 13 year old sister.

    Classy conservative there.

  10. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Yeah, but how many different baby mamas? Do you have an excel spreadsheet to keep track of those.

    Also, I am skeptical that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder really had a total of 21 children. I think that’s just how often the women promised that the kids looked like them. (Sorry about that one).

    • LOL: JMcG
    • Replies: @black sea
    @Hypnotoad666

    BB King's sperm count was so low that he'd been told by doctors that he could never father children. He accepted all of the kids (many the result of liaisons on the road) whose mothers claimed King as the father, but there are doubts as to whether all of those claims are genuine.

    Replies: @VinnyVette

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Hypnotoad666


    Also, I am skeptical that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder really had a total of 21 children. I think that’s just how often the women promised that the kids looked like them. (Sorry about that one).
     
    I'm sure their olfactory capabilities were in fine working order. Better than most, as with their hearing.
  11. @Lloyd1927
    @Coag

    Sally Hemings was 3/4 white (the daughter of Jefferson's father-in-law).

    The only known descriptions of Hemings come from another slave at Monticello, Isaac Jefferson, who stated that she was "mighty near white ... very handsome, long straight hair down her back," and Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall, who once recalled Jefferson's grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph's description of Hemings: "[She was] light colored and decidedly good looking."

    So, while blacks foolishly claim Hemings as an icon and black women imagine resting their kinky heads on the breast of the great TJ, the truth is very different.

    Replies: @Coag, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob, @Mr. Grey, @Truth

    Your white man’s “truth” withers away feebly before the high altar of Black Self-Esteem. Sally Hemings, like Cleopatra, was as dark as Precious. Amen.

  12. It had some perks for Larry David…(I’d do anything to get Susie Greene out of my house.)

    • LOL: Jim Christian
  13. @Hypnotoad666
    @Thomm

    Yeah, but how many different baby mamas? Do you have an excel spreadsheet to keep track of those.

    Also, I am skeptical that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder really had a total of 21 children. I think that's just how often the women promised that the kids looked like them. (Sorry about that one).

    Replies: @black sea, @Reg Cæsar

    BB King’s sperm count was so low that he’d been told by doctors that he could never father children. He accepted all of the kids (many the result of liaisons on the road) whose mothers claimed King as the father, but there are doubts as to whether all of those claims are genuine.

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    @black sea

    How are you knowledgeable of BB Kings sperm count?

    Replies: @black sea

  14. @Coag
    How long before Thomas Jefferson is celebrated for lusting after a black woman and therefore raising black women’s self-esteem?

    Black Self-Esteem has rapidly ascended to become our society’s highest deity and all our communal and personal rituals and theologies must serve to support it.

    Replies: @Lloyd1927, @Slimer

    POC Self-Esteem, with Indian men, East Asian men and black women leading the charge…against what’s now termed sexual racism, which is a fancy way of describing the state of being undesired by white people.

    Asian-American man plans lawsuit to stop ‘sexual racism’ on Grindr
    After seeing “Not interested in Asians” on the profile of a fellow Grindr user, Sinakhone Keodara threatened the gay dating app with a class-action lawsuit.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/asian-american-man-threatens-class-action-discrimination-suit-against-grindr-n890946

    After ‘sexual racism’ accusations, gay dating app Grindr gets ‘Kindr’
    Grindr launched the new “Kindr” initiative this week to combat “racism, bullying, or other forms of toxic behavior” on its popular gay dating app.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/after-sexual-racism-accusations-gay-day-app-grindr-gets-kindr-n912196

    Journal Article
    Sexual Racism: Intimacy as a Matter of Justice
    Sonu Bedi
    The Journal of Politics
    Vol. 77, No. 4 (October 2015), pp. 998-1011

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/682749?seq=1

    https://faculty-directory.dartmouth.edu/sonu-s-bedi

    Heterosexual black men and Latinos seem to be the only POC not partaking in this movement. If they are I can’t find any examples of it online.

  15. a happily ever after in which the male partner acknowledges and begins to unravel

    FIFY Honey, and didn’t even have to change a word.

  16. Yes, what is unsaid about African societies is the matriarchal manner of them.

    We have a 20% chance of a president Stacey Abrams.

    • Replies: @Slimer
    @Bucky

    Women in matriarchal societies can't pop out babies left and right since they have to work. Currently they're only 1/3 of Africa's labor force, hence the birth rate is so high. African Americans are somewhat matriarchal as reflected in birthrates, which are only high among long term welfare recipients not the general poulation.

  17. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children.

    Correction: the number of children they admit to.

  18. Salamishah Tillet ???

    What’s up with the legacy media hiring only people with names that seem like they come from a J.R.R. Tolkien fantasy?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Franz

    Franz, or Mediterranean Deli..."The Salami Shah"

  19. @Anon
    Author's bio says she got raped in college. Twice.

    Something doesn't seem right. There's no mention of her calling the police afterwards. You'd think the second time, you'd wise up and want to get the guy in trouble. Was she dating only blacks back then?

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Art Deco, @Pop Warner

    Author’s bio says she got raped in college. Twice.

    Something doesn’t seem right.

    Maybe she made it up, maybe she didn’t. Who’s to know? I do know this: no self-respecting and even remotely-feminist woman in the year 2020 would dare venture into the public realm without a couple of rape histories to relate. Very seldom were they ever reported (or even mentioned) at or near the time they are supposed to have occurred. Ya gotta hand that one to Jackie Coakley–she wasted no time telling her story.

    • Replies: @dcthrowback
    @Mr McKenna

    unprovable Come-uppies just as important as the pieces of paper that say Phd from an Ivy League school in scoring high in our current twitter Wokemon tournament

  20. If she wants to date that dishy Engineering Prof down the hall, instead of writing tortured NYT op-eds, she should just ask him out.

    Pro Tip for first date romance: race guilt is not a winning strategy.

    • LOL: Father O'Hara
  21. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Mr. Charles and Mr. Wonder were blind, and also very successful. Also, many of these men you have listed have 4,5, or 6 kids.. You could go to an Irish neighborhood, like Beverly in Chicago, and find the same phenomenon.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Hibernian

    And coincidentally, many African-Americans have Irish surnames. This doesn't exactly make much sense, as most Irish Americans didn't own slaves in the 19th century. It's understandable that many African-Americans would tend to have Scots-Irish surnames (as many of them do in addition to having Irish surnames), but that is a strange phenomenon.

    Like, how did they get Irish surnames if their ancestors' masters weren't Irish themselves?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Art Deco, @kikz

    , @MBlanc46
    @Hibernian

    That was sure the case when I was a kid in the 1950s. I’m a bit skeptical that it’s still the case.

  22. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, a black woman is an astonishing *20x* more likely to murder a white spouse than a white woman is to murder her white husband.

    Whatever else white women might be, the are, typically, not deadly.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @Anonymous


    Whatever else white women might be, the are, typically, not deadly.

     

    White women are sacrificial lambs on the altar of multiculturalism and don't even know it.

    A recent example from Sweden…

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/19/girl-17-decapitated-boyfriend-ended-relationship-12723956/

    She had a picture of Tupac Shakur as her Facebook cover page. Moved from her house at 15 to live with a 21-year-old Muslim refugee and her good, progressive parents allowed it.

    As the late Lawrence Auster used to say, the modern progressive world is basically a machine to kill white women.

    But hey, they beat corona without a lockdown yay.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Anonymous

    "Whatever else White women might be, they are, typically, not deadly."

    By refusing en masse to bear White children, White women have in fact become the deadliest force the White race has ever encountered.

    , @RoyaleWCheese
    @Anonymous

    Where did you get that stat exactly?

  23. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    They have not forgotten what is important.

    Just as my cows have not forgotten natural fertilizer improves soil.

    Don’t mistake irresponsibility as thoughtfulness.

  24. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:

    You might scoff, but I’ve long harbored the opinion that one ultimate aim of all the so called ‘equalities’ and racial preference legislation, rules, culture, mores etc, that have plagued the USA since the mid 1960s is to legally force, under duress of government sanction, white men to marry black women.
    You might laugh and dismiss it, but just think how the American state has shamelessly and obtusely intruded itself into individuals’ intimate and private behavior, personal choices, preferences etc etc whenever to twin dogmas of ‘race’ and ‘equality’ can possibly be inserted by a complainant, and white people are the subject of the complaint.

    Sorry to be crude, but if you are a white man and ‘equality’ is concerned, the US government, far more intolerant, tyrannical and intolerant than anything Stalin, Hitler or Mao ever devised, won’t even let you shit in peace.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    In July 2022 the Abrams Administration promulgated the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Coupling Rule pursuant to the Fair Coupling Act. It requires white women and men which receive, directly or indirectly, Federal money for any reason whatsoever to examine whether there are any barriers to fair coupling or mating practices that promote bias based on any protected class under the Fair Coupling Act, and to create a plan for rectifying fair coupling barriers. The intention is to promote equal mating opportunities and level the playing field so that all communities may experience the quality romance and amenities that are important for marginalized pulchritude’s self-esteem. Civil rights groups have hailed the rule citing decades-long patterns of government-sponsored segregation and discriminatory practices, while conservatives have decried it as "social engineering."...

  25. Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism, Academic Corollary

  26. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    I’d consider dating a black woman–if her entire family was unfortunately killed by a meteor first.

  27. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Barry White : 9

    “Mama, my love gonna come down on you like a squatting hippopotamus.”

    — p. 72: https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Audio/Archive-HiFI-Stereo/70s/HiFi-Stereo-Review-1975-12.pdf

    John Singleton : 7

    The name may fit him, but not them.

    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)

    “Charles fathered a total of 12 children with ten different women”– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Charles#Relationships_and_children

    Jack certainly hit the road.

    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11

    That’s punching above their weight class.

    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).

    Son Rohan and Lauryn Hill gave him five American grandchildren. Raggamuffin was born in the US and lives in Miami now. Ziggy has four with his Israeli wife, and three more from earlier relationships. Don’t know if any of those three are American, but that’s Ziggy’s voice on the opening and closing credits of the Arthur kids cartoons.

  28. The Molly-Andrew relationship is part of a larger cultural trend in which black women, especially those of medium-to-dark-brown complexions — long positioned at the bottom of the aesthetic and social hierarchy in the United States because of racist standards — are increasingly appearing as leading ladies and romantic ideals in interracial relationships onscreen.

    Think of it as aesthetic affirmative action. Americans must convince themselves that women who look like this

    are just as attractive as women who look like this

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    Uh, most US men aren't buying it, not even other races are buying it. And, did you really HAVE to post that pic of the first....the first....person?

    Goodness Gracious.

    Replies: @syonredux, @fish

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @syonredux

    syon, she got her hair head rubbed down to a nub.

    , @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    Ah, Monica Bellucci, arguably the most beautiful woman of all times(exaggeration? No: watch this: https://youtu.be/Jh_JN8hco_0)

    But Ms.Bellucci is an *extreme* outlier. She is a one-in-a-billion beauty. How many white women look like her? I've never seen any. I have seen a few beautiful white women, but not like this. Most look very plain. It's pretty silly to use an extreme outlier like Monica Bellucci to argue that white women as a whole are more attractive than black women.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @syonredux

    , @Truth
    @syonredux

    Again Old Sport, both boys.

    Bellucci could do Globetrotter tricks with that 12 inch hand on top of his head.

    Replies: @syonredux

  29. @Hibernian
    @Thomm

    Mr. Charles and Mr. Wonder were blind, and also very successful. Also, many of these men you have listed have 4,5, or 6 kids.. You could go to an Irish neighborhood, like Beverly in Chicago, and find the same phenomenon.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @MBlanc46

    And coincidentally, many African-Americans have Irish surnames. This doesn’t exactly make much sense, as most Irish Americans didn’t own slaves in the 19th century. It’s understandable that many African-Americans would tend to have Scots-Irish surnames (as many of them do in addition to having Irish surnames), but that is a strange phenomenon.

    Like, how did they get Irish surnames if their ancestors’ masters weren’t Irish themselves?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Ireland, then, was an integral part of the UK.
    So, not unlikely, many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Art Deco
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Because there isn't a discrete distinction between a protestant and a Catholic surname in Ireland, though protestants are much more prevalent among the holders of some surnames than others. Also, some surnames which appear Irish are more Scottish in origin (McCollum is one).

    , @kikz
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    irish overseers, perhaps? may've adopted the overseer's name as CV, as they did owner's name following the War of Northern Aggression.

  30. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

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    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    The equation is simple: BM-WW involves evil Beckys with good hair stealing quality Black men. Even worse, it makes Black women have negative feelings about their bad hair…..

    WM-BW, in contrast, puts those arrogant Beckys in their place and makes Black women feel pretty…..

    • Replies: @Anonymous (n)
    @syonredux

    So hold on, are you saying you prefer that the media push the black male white female pairing over the reverse? Because if so, and assuming you're a white male, that's pretty cucked.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux, @Truth

    , @Duke84
    @syonredux

    I remember when Eddie Murphy was on a talk show a long time ago and he said he would only date black women and the audience cheered.

    Replies: @syonredux

  31. My God! It’s full of subtext!

    I ain’t touchin’ this one with a ten foot clown-pole.

  32. @Lloyd1927
    @Coag

    Sally Hemings was 3/4 white (the daughter of Jefferson's father-in-law).

    The only known descriptions of Hemings come from another slave at Monticello, Isaac Jefferson, who stated that she was "mighty near white ... very handsome, long straight hair down her back," and Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall, who once recalled Jefferson's grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph's description of Hemings: "[She was] light colored and decidedly good looking."

    So, while blacks foolishly claim Hemings as an icon and black women imagine resting their kinky heads on the breast of the great TJ, the truth is very different.

    Replies: @Coag, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob, @Mr. Grey, @Truth

    The truth is, that the science (e.g. DNA regarding Hemmings’ children paternity) is far from settled. This was all brought to a head by Fawn Brodie’s 1974 biography on TJ. The one child of Hemmings was exhumed. The DNA tests showed that TJ in fact was NOT the father. There are other historical primary accounts that give credence that if anyone was the father to Hemmings’ children, besides other slaves, it would’ve been TJ’s nephew Randolph, who tended to hang out with slaves, make music and dance around, unlike his more reserved and much older uncle.

    Something to consider: In his will, Thomas Jefferson freed all his slaves, except for…Sally Hemmings.

    • Agree: Thoughts
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    The one child of Hemmings was exhumed.

     

    Sally Hemings had 6 children of whom 4 survived to adulthood.

    The DNA tests showed that TJ in fact was NOT the father.
     
    That never happened.

    However, DNA testing on surviving Hemings descendants show that at least one branch (ironically one that crossed the color line and became "white" again) has Jefferson DNA, although as you point out we can't say which Jefferson (although the Carr nephews have been ruled out) . However there is a lot of evidence that points to TJ.

    https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

    Replies: @james wilson, @Nicholas Stix

  33. @syonredux
    @Thomm


    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW
     
    The equation is simple: BM-WW involves evil Beckys with good hair stealing quality Black men. Even worse, it makes Black women have negative feelings about their bad hair.....


    https://dlisted.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/eddie.jpg



    WM-BW, in contrast, puts those arrogant Beckys in their place and makes Black women feel pretty.....


    https://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Rick-Michonne.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @Duke84

    So hold on, are you saying you prefer that the media push the black male white female pairing over the reverse? Because if so, and assuming you’re a white male, that’s pretty cucked.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Anonymous (n)

    Perhaps I should try writing my comments in Newspeak....

    WM+ BW is doupleplusgood, but BM+WW is doubleplusungood.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n)

    , @syonredux
    @Anonymous (n)


    So hold on, are you saying you prefer that the media push the black male white female pairing over the reverse? Because if so, and assuming you’re a white male, that’s pretty cucked.

     

    No, that's not what I'm saying.
    , @Truth
    @Anonymous (n)


    assuming you’re a white male, that’s pretty cucked.
     
    assuming you’re a white male, that’s pretty cucked.

    LOL, well you won the prize with that part alone.

    Do you want the Teddy Bear or the Kupie doll?
  34. @syonredux

    The Molly-Andrew relationship is part of a larger cultural trend in which black women, especially those of medium-to-dark-brown complexions — long positioned at the bottom of the aesthetic and social hierarchy in the United States because of racist standards — are increasingly appearing as leading ladies and romantic ideals in interracial relationships onscreen.
     
    Think of it as aesthetic affirmative action. Americans must convince themselves that women who look like this


    http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/danai-gurira-4.jpg

    are just as attractive as women who look like this


    https://earthenergyreader.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/monica-bellucci-1024x768-24236.jpg

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Buffalo Joe, @Anonymous, @Truth

    Uh, most US men aren’t buying it, not even other races are buying it. And, did you really HAVE to post that pic of the first….the first….person?

    Goodness Gracious.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Uh, most US men aren’t buying it, not even other races are buying it.
     
    Nobody said that breaking racist conditioning was easy......


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f8/07/d1/f807d149750a199b3ed36986241f303c.jpg



    https://maggiemcneill.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ludovico-technique.jpg

    Replies: @bruce county

    , @fish
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I don't think you are giving this idea a fair chance! Tell you what we'll double date.....


    https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/abrams%20joy%201.PNG?itok=F79BYpuM



    Do you want Sullen or Stupid?

  35. @Hypnotoad666
    @Thomm

    Yeah, but how many different baby mamas? Do you have an excel spreadsheet to keep track of those.

    Also, I am skeptical that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder really had a total of 21 children. I think that's just how often the women promised that the kids looked like them. (Sorry about that one).

    Replies: @black sea, @Reg Cæsar

    Also, I am skeptical that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder really had a total of 21 children. I think that’s just how often the women promised that the kids looked like them. (Sorry about that one).

    I’m sure their olfactory capabilities were in fine working order. Better than most, as with their hearing.

  36. Here it is, the crowning vindication of Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism.

  37. Black women are looking for a silver tongued White devil like Joe Biden.

  38. @Bucky
    Yes, what is unsaid about African societies is the matriarchal manner of them.

    We have a 20% chance of a president Stacey Abrams.

    Replies: @Slimer

    Women in matriarchal societies can’t pop out babies left and right since they have to work. Currently they’re only 1/3 of Africa’s labor force, hence the birth rate is so high. African Americans are somewhat matriarchal as reflected in birthrates, which are only high among long term welfare recipients not the general poulation.

  39. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Hibernian

    And coincidentally, many African-Americans have Irish surnames. This doesn't exactly make much sense, as most Irish Americans didn't own slaves in the 19th century. It's understandable that many African-Americans would tend to have Scots-Irish surnames (as many of them do in addition to having Irish surnames), but that is a strange phenomenon.

    Like, how did they get Irish surnames if their ancestors' masters weren't Irish themselves?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Art Deco, @kikz

    Ireland, then, was an integral part of the UK.
    So, not unlikely, many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    "many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business."

    You know nothing about historical Ireland. Your average Irishman was too dirt-poor to own a plantation. After Oliver Cromwell, the rich Irish and the 'Irish nobility' were all aristocratic English families exported from England.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @kikz

  40. anon[796] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    You might scoff, but I've long harbored the opinion that one ultimate aim of all the so called 'equalities' and racial preference legislation, rules, culture, mores etc, that have plagued the USA since the mid 1960s is to legally force, under duress of government sanction, white men to marry black women.
    You might laugh and dismiss it, but just think how the American state has shamelessly and obtusely intruded itself into individuals' intimate and private behavior, personal choices, preferences etc etc whenever to twin dogmas of 'race' and 'equality' can possibly be inserted by a complainant, and white people are the subject of the complaint.

    Sorry to be crude, but if you are a white man and 'equality' is concerned, the US government, far more intolerant, tyrannical and intolerant than anything Stalin, Hitler or Mao ever devised, won't even let you shit in peace.

    Replies: @anon

    In July 2022 the Abrams Administration promulgated the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Coupling Rule pursuant to the Fair Coupling Act. It requires white women and men which receive, directly or indirectly, Federal money for any reason whatsoever to examine whether there are any barriers to fair coupling or mating practices that promote bias based on any protected class under the Fair Coupling Act, and to create a plan for rectifying fair coupling barriers. The intention is to promote equal mating opportunities and level the playing field so that all communities may experience the quality romance and amenities that are important for marginalized pulchritude’s self-esteem. Civil rights groups have hailed the rule citing decades-long patterns of government-sponsored segregation and discriminatory practices, while conservatives have decried it as “social engineering.”…

  41. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    Uh, most US men aren't buying it, not even other races are buying it. And, did you really HAVE to post that pic of the first....the first....person?

    Goodness Gracious.

    Replies: @syonredux, @fish

    Uh, most US men aren’t buying it, not even other races are buying it.

    Nobody said that breaking racist conditioning was easy……

    • LOL: Dtbb
    • Replies: @bruce county
    @syonredux

    If Obama had a son.

  42. As a not-black man, I’ve never wanted for black women to lust after, so I don’t know what this writer is talking about:

    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/nia-long-picture-id83163173

    However, a smart, conscientious woman of good character appears to be slim pickings regardless of race. Maybe this woman from a video I saw yesterday qualifies, also happens to be gorgeous (though not my type for looks, not that I’d let that get in the way):

  43. @Anonymous (n)
    @syonredux

    So hold on, are you saying you prefer that the media push the black male white female pairing over the reverse? Because if so, and assuming you're a white male, that's pretty cucked.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux, @Truth

    Perhaps I should try writing my comments in Newspeak….

    WM+ BW is doupleplusgood, but BM+WW is doubleplusungood.

    • LOL: Fluesterwitz
    • Replies: @Anonymous (n)
    @syonredux

    Now you're just spouting gibberish. That's still an improvement over cuckoldry however, so I do give you props for taking baby steps in the right direction.

    Replies: @Charon

  44. I remember a piece on PBS where some black woman was complaining about the racial implications of the fact that an interracial couple she knew (a white man and a black woman, I believe the woman was her friend) had decided to have a “plantation-style” wedding.

    Implied in the story was that the husband was unaware of his privilege and of how insensitive such a theme for a wedding would be.

    Not considered was the issue of which member of the couple was almost certainly the one who chose (and indeed, who cared) what the theme of the wedding was and who probably did 90% of the planning for the wedding.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Glaivester

    Women of all races at least agree it's always the husband or boyfriend's fault.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Glaivester

    Glav, Anni DiFranco is from Buffalo, and was big in music and women issues. Then she hosted a conference at a 5 star resort that was called Amelia Island Plantation. Hounded poor Anni for her insensitivity. 1619 was yesterday.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

  45. @Anonymous
    Apparently, a black woman is an astonishing *20x* more likely to murder a white spouse than a white woman is to murder her white husband.

    Whatever else white women might be, the are, typically, not deadly.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @RoyaleWCheese

    Whatever else white women might be, the are, typically, not deadly.

    White women are sacrificial lambs on the altar of multiculturalism and don’t even know it.

    A recent example from Sweden…

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/19/girl-17-decapitated-boyfriend-ended-relationship-12723956/

    She had a picture of Tupac Shakur as her Facebook cover page. Moved from her house at 15 to live with a 21-year-old Muslim refugee and her good, progressive parents allowed it.

    As the late Lawrence Auster used to say, the modern progressive world is basically a machine to kill white women.

    But hey, they beat corona without a lockdown yay.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dumbo

    No.
    Auster got it completely wrong.

    The modern world is a conspiracy to put women 'on top' of men.

    Only, the reality is not as exciting or enjoyable.

  46. @syonredux
    @Anonymous (n)

    Perhaps I should try writing my comments in Newspeak....

    WM+ BW is doupleplusgood, but BM+WW is doubleplusungood.

    Replies: @Anonymous (n)

    Now you’re just spouting gibberish. That’s still an improvement over cuckoldry however, so I do give you props for taking baby steps in the right direction.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Anonymous (n)

    Well Mr. Syon, it appears that your interlocutor isn't exactly the literary type.

  47. @Glaivester
    I remember a piece on PBS where some black woman was complaining about the racial implications of the fact that an interracial couple she knew (a white man and a black woman, I believe the woman was her friend) had decided to have a "plantation-style" wedding.

    Implied in the story was that the husband was unaware of his privilege and of how insensitive such a theme for a wedding would be.

    Not considered was the issue of which member of the couple was almost certainly the one who chose (and indeed, who cared) what the theme of the wedding was and who probably did 90% of the planning for the wedding.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Buffalo Joe

    Women of all races at least agree it’s always the husband or boyfriend’s fault.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • LOL: dcthrowback
  48. Robert de Niro apart, at least one white man steps up: professor Ari Nagel.

    https://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Pericles

    I now see to my delight that the NY Post even has an entire category named 'Ari Nagel' where you can follow the professor's adventures.

    https://nypost.com/tag/ari-nagel/

    , @njguy73
    @Pericles

    Why is that guy not more famous?

  49. @Pericles
    Robert de Niro apart, at least one white man steps up: professor Ari Nagel.

    https://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/

    Replies: @Pericles, @njguy73

    I now see to my delight that the NY Post even has an entire category named ‘Ari Nagel’ where you can follow the professor’s adventures.

    https://nypost.com/tag/ari-nagel/

  50. @Anonymous
    Apparently, a black woman is an astonishing *20x* more likely to murder a white spouse than a white woman is to murder her white husband.

    Whatever else white women might be, the are, typically, not deadly.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @RoyaleWCheese

    “Whatever else White women might be, they are, typically, not deadly.”

    By refusing en masse to bear White children, White women have in fact become the deadliest force the White race has ever encountered.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  51. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    This is an important comment that should not be dismissed lightly.

    I don’t know celebrity biographies, but I’m almost certain that vast majority of white, even “sexy” celebrities did not have as much children, with very few exceptions (Brando?).

    I guess this is because black women- and those pairings are, with a few exceptions, with black females – have retained procreative potential/irresponsibility, unlike white females.

    • Replies: @Thoughts
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Clint Eastwood forced his ex gf to have an abortion in the 80s. She had no children.

    But this is just par for the course for liberals. They are Satans.

    Replies: @gate666

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Mick Jagger has I think 8. Paul Weller too, and he's still in his 50s, just.

    McCartney 5
    Lennon 2
    Harrison 1
    Starkey 3

    Plant 3
    Daltry 8 (he only found out about 3 of them quite recently)

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  52. @Jim Given
    This author emphasizes an essential aspect of modern marriage, one which cannot be discussed enough: marriage as therapy. But not the one-on-one form with Freud as paradigm. Rather, the Marxist-style (and prep-school style) confession of ones sins and acts of bourgeois unconsciousness to a group. I'm not sure if this would involve a group of mixed-race couples, and what activities, if any, would transpire after the round of group confessions. If I were good at this sort of thing, I would make up my ow religion.

    Replies: @Thoughts

    Genius. Genius comment.

    Marriage as therapy

  53. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Thomm

    This is an important comment that should not be dismissed lightly.

    I don't know celebrity biographies, but I'm almost certain that vast majority of white, even "sexy" celebrities did not have as much children, with very few exceptions (Brando?).

    I guess this is because black women- and those pairings are, with a few exceptions, with black females - have retained procreative potential/irresponsibility, unlike white females.

    Replies: @Thoughts, @YetAnotherAnon

    Clint Eastwood forced his ex gf to have an abortion in the 80s. She had no children.

    But this is just par for the course for liberals. They are Satans.

    • Replies: @gate666
    @Thoughts

    clint is not a liberal.

  54. This is just the Good Cop version of, Three Cheers for White Genocide!

    Remember, the math of interracial offspring is very simple:

    White Plus White Equals White.

    White Plus Non-White Equals Non-White.

    and also,

    White Plus Non-White Equals Anti-White Non-White, as well as Negative Opportunity Cost in one less potential White.

    Whether it is a BM-WF coupling or WM-BF coupling, the resulting offspring is B, with W resources co-opted and used to nurture it. IOW it is a demographic POC win-win, n’importe quoi.

    Keep in mind also that NYT is fully controlled not by Shimshillah and Danitra, but by Tovah and Judith. It is their will that is expressed here, simply by editorial decision to publish.

    This, “Hey, let’s have some WM-BF romances!” is just the candy-coated version of the real message, which is, LOL White men, we’re getting POCs to bogart all your fine wimminz! Best make do with brillo-haids and rope-haids, because that’s all your pasty low-T Soyboy ass can pull from now on.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  55. @Anonymous (n)
    @syonredux

    Now you're just spouting gibberish. That's still an improvement over cuckoldry however, so I do give you props for taking baby steps in the right direction.

    Replies: @Charon

    Well Mr. Syon, it appears that your interlocutor isn’t exactly the literary type.

    • Agree: syonredux
  56. Couldn’t bear to read the whole article – does she mention the hair?

  57. Long as we don’t romance Asian women, right…?

    (The double standards make sense in terms of intrasexual competition. And Asian men and black women lose out, as you pointed out 25 years ago.)

    • Replies: @ADL Pyramid of Hate
    @SFG

    I just read that article (assuming you’re referring to the one in National Review) last week. Being about the same age as the article, I always find it refreshing to be reminded that most contemporary woke neuroses differ in degree but not kind from those of days gone by.

  58. @Clyde
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamishah_Tillet

    Check out her wiki. It is all self-authored. I will give her credit for looking 75% on the scale of blackitude and not some bitchy Creole-Octaroon-Megan Markle-light skin fake artist/ We are getting some truth from this 40+ girl. Who btw...... Cov19 or no Cov19, this useless eater parasite is currently gettin' paid via taxpayers via Rutgers U.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Kibernetika, @Bard of Bumperstickers

    That’s one long wiki bio. A ton of fluff.

  59. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo
    @Anonymous


    Whatever else white women might be, the are, typically, not deadly.

     

    White women are sacrificial lambs on the altar of multiculturalism and don't even know it.

    A recent example from Sweden…

    https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/19/girl-17-decapitated-boyfriend-ended-relationship-12723956/

    She had a picture of Tupac Shakur as her Facebook cover page. Moved from her house at 15 to live with a 21-year-old Muslim refugee and her good, progressive parents allowed it.

    As the late Lawrence Auster used to say, the modern progressive world is basically a machine to kill white women.

    But hey, they beat corona without a lockdown yay.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    No.
    Auster got it completely wrong.

    The modern world is a conspiracy to put women ‘on top’ of men.

    Only, the reality is not as exciting or enjoyable.

  60. @Thoughts
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Clint Eastwood forced his ex gf to have an abortion in the 80s. She had no children.

    But this is just par for the course for liberals. They are Satans.

    Replies: @gate666

    clint is not a liberal.

  61. “Ultimately, none of these interracial narratives can make up for our country’s violent racial past or the way that history continues to plague us.”

    Violent racial past? Is Salamishah aware of the immensity of the current rate of black-on-white violent crime? She should try to pay attention.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Paul

    Agree, but it's not just the current rate. It's been extreme for over 50 years now. And ignored by the national media for just as long.

  62. Just as are black men, white men are more attracted to white women.

  63. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:

    , not just out of love, but because it is the right thing to do.

    Like gravity, it’s not just the right thing to do, it’s the law. See: Christopher Caldewll, _The Age of Entitlement: America since the Sixties_

  64. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Berry Gordy is an exceptional offense in that his offspring were utterly talentless. Despite that, two of them managed to assault the auditory senses of the general public: Rockwell in the 80’s with “Somebody’s Watching Me”, which was a hit only because his Dad pulled strings and got Michael Jackson to sing the chorus, and then decades later Redfoo hit the charts with the horrific “I’m Sexy and I Know it.”

  65. is Charlemagne french or german?

  66. They want their kids to have straighter hair.

  67. RAZ says:
    @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Followers of the quiverfull movement. But the Duggars (19, and still counting?) have them all beat except for Elijah. Though Duggars had them all together.

    Except for a few outliers, most of those on the list are about 4 or 5 kids. Maybe not that different from well known famous white entertainers/sports figures who have had several wives? I just randomly looked up Bob Dylan and he had 6.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @RAZ

    Norman Mailer had 8, as has Mick Jagger as of this post.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  68. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Murphy

    14 children with 9 women

    I believe Calvin Murphy is the last athlete I ever heard a sports news reporter make an issue of it. The closest we have come in recent years is some chaff at the end of the reports on Bill O’Brien trading Deandre Hopkins for next-to-nothing. At some point between Calvin Murphy and Deandre Hopkins this became a topic that the audience was better off without any accurate information.

  69. TGGP says: • Website

    I don’t know about her first two examples, but the male lead of “The Lovebirds” is Kumail Nanjiani. He would have been classified as caucasian prior to the 1980s, but now he’s officially a Person of Color and the reviews I’ve read of the film indicate that both leads are wary of the police due to the assumption that they will be racist (are there any notable instances in the U.S of police being racist against south Asians?).

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @TGGP

    No one would ever consider Kumali Nanjiani white.

  70. @Lloyd1927
    @Coag

    Sally Hemings was 3/4 white (the daughter of Jefferson's father-in-law).

    The only known descriptions of Hemings come from another slave at Monticello, Isaac Jefferson, who stated that she was "mighty near white ... very handsome, long straight hair down her back," and Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall, who once recalled Jefferson's grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph's description of Hemings: "[She was] light colored and decidedly good looking."

    So, while blacks foolishly claim Hemings as an icon and black women imagine resting their kinky heads on the breast of the great TJ, the truth is very different.

    Replies: @Coag, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob, @Mr. Grey, @Truth

    One of the more despicable things the loathsome BJC did was to promote this canard against TJ to distract attention from his antics.

  71. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Don’t forget:

    Calvin Murphy: 14
    Antonio Cromartie: 14
    Shawn Kemp: 7

    And then there’s Screamin’ Jay Hawkins. He may have had up to 75.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    @njguy73

    Thanks. I will add these into a future update. I have limited the list to people who were famous in the 1950-2000 period, as I am disinclined to get up to date on the newest black celebrities. For example, Deontay Wilder also has 8.

    For the time period in question, there are also :

    Coolio : 10
    Eazy-E : 11
    Kurupt : 6
    Kokane : 8
    Floyd Mayweather Sr. : 5
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. : 5

    Jay Hawkins was confirmed at 33+. The real number may be much higher.

  72. @Pericles
    Robert de Niro apart, at least one white man steps up: professor Ari Nagel.

    https://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/

    Replies: @Pericles, @njguy73

    Why is that guy not more famous?

  73. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Thomm

    This is an important comment that should not be dismissed lightly.

    I don't know celebrity biographies, but I'm almost certain that vast majority of white, even "sexy" celebrities did not have as much children, with very few exceptions (Brando?).

    I guess this is because black women- and those pairings are, with a few exceptions, with black females - have retained procreative potential/irresponsibility, unlike white females.

    Replies: @Thoughts, @YetAnotherAnon

    Mick Jagger has I think 8. Paul Weller too, and he’s still in his 50s, just.

    McCartney 5
    Lennon 2
    Harrison 1
    Starkey 3

    Plant 3
    Daltry 8 (he only found out about 3 of them quite recently)

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It would be interesting that people who know something about those celebrities make a list (or lists) on the topic & put them in various categories (era, occupation,..).

    As I vaguely remember, Louis Armstrong and Wilt Chamberlain didn't have children, or maybe 1 or 2; Dean Martin had a bunch of them.

    Just, actors & film stars seem to have less children, statistically, than athletes & especially singers/musicians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Pericles

  74. Here in the Bay Area, there is a new trend wherein average to handsome hipster guys are hooking up with smoking hot, educated black girls with really nice personalities. I started noticing it at the dog park before the shut down. They bring their small dogs to the park. I also have seen more mixed lesbian couples, in which the black halves are very pretty. I think that these women are just not into black inner city culture, sharing their alpha males with other baby Mamas and walking pit bulls instead of Yorkies. These girls are natural and not done up with weaves and fake nails.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @Michelle


    smoking hot, educated black girls with really nice personalities.
     
    These ladies actually do exist, but they are rare and the only ones I have ever met were very light-skinned.

    Replies: @Michelle

    , @anon
    @Michelle

    By the complementary way you describe black women you are either one yourself or you want to get yourself one.

    Replies: @Michelle

    , @vhrm
    @Michelle

    The issue is that even if she's fine now and maybe even always a white guy will end up with "black" kids.
    And in our culture there's a not insignificant chance that they'll grow up "woke" and hate their father for being a slaver who "raped" their mom because ... red lining and Ever Till.

    imo the issue isn't primarily the people, it's the racial grievance. (although it's true too that since becoming more HBD aware ... concerns about reversion to norm and stuff make me think of trying not to make dysgenic reproductive choices)

    Replies: @Michelle

  75. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    Uh, most US men aren't buying it, not even other races are buying it. And, did you really HAVE to post that pic of the first....the first....person?

    Goodness Gracious.

    Replies: @syonredux, @fish

    I don’t think you are giving this idea a fair chance! Tell you what we’ll double date…..

    Do you want Sullen or Stupid?

  76. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Lloyd1927

    The truth is, that the science (e.g. DNA regarding Hemmings' children paternity) is far from settled. This was all brought to a head by Fawn Brodie's 1974 biography on TJ. The one child of Hemmings was exhumed. The DNA tests showed that TJ in fact was NOT the father. There are other historical primary accounts that give credence that if anyone was the father to Hemmings' children, besides other slaves, it would've been TJ's nephew Randolph, who tended to hang out with slaves, make music and dance around, unlike his more reserved and much older uncle.

    Something to consider: In his will, Thomas Jefferson freed all his slaves, except for...Sally Hemmings.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The one child of Hemmings was exhumed.

    Sally Hemings had 6 children of whom 4 survived to adulthood.

    The DNA tests showed that TJ in fact was NOT the father.

    That never happened.

    However, DNA testing on surviving Hemings descendants show that at least one branch (ironically one that crossed the color line and became “white” again) has Jefferson DNA, although as you point out we can’t say which Jefferson (although the Carr nephews have been ruled out) . However there is a lot of evidence that points to TJ.

    https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

    • Replies: @james wilson
    @Jack D

    No, the dates of birth point to Tom's brother. Tom was typical of the 18th century lord of manor, social distancing even of good looking quadroons was ingrained. Breeding with slaves would ruin a man's place in the social scene faster than all else, and women of that class would be damn sure that it did. Black historians love to think TJ and Sally had their thing, proving at the same time that we are really all the same and also that white's raped blacks. Tom didn't refrain because he's sainted and carved on Mt. Rushmore but because as a man of his time the act of screwing a slave was repugnant to him. This too is a sin of course in the 21st.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Jack D

    That's a hoax site, Jack. There is no evidence that points to Thomas Jefferson having fathered any of Sally Hemings' children. The hoaxers can't even keep their lies straight (did she have six or seven children?), which is typical for this sort of thing.

    The "story" of Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson is America's ur-race hoax.

    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2019/07/giving-thomas-jefferson-business-sally.html

    Replies: @Art Deco

  77. @TGGP
    I don't know about her first two examples, but the male lead of "The Lovebirds" is Kumail Nanjiani. He would have been classified as caucasian prior to the 1980s, but now he's officially a Person of Color and the reviews I've read of the film indicate that both leads are wary of the police due to the assumption that they will be racist (are there any notable instances in the U.S of police being racist against south Asians?).

    Replies: @prosa123

    No one would ever consider Kumali Nanjiani white.

  78. Why would she or any other black want white genes watering down the black gene pool seeing as they despise whites? My only guess is locking down a trophy white man and the social status that elicits “Trump’s” poisoning their superior gene pool! How selfish! How “Karen” of her to suggest such a thing!

  79. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    And those are only the ones they know about! Gottsa be some baby Mama’s out there unaccounted for!

  80. @black sea
    @Hypnotoad666

    BB King's sperm count was so low that he'd been told by doctors that he could never father children. He accepted all of the kids (many the result of liaisons on the road) whose mothers claimed King as the father, but there are doubts as to whether all of those claims are genuine.

    Replies: @VinnyVette

    How are you knowledgeable of BB Kings sperm count?

    • Replies: @black sea
    @VinnyVette

    The Daily Mail, though this article raises the same issue:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/bb-kings-estate-war-15-897351

  81. Where are all the race/equality obsessed Jewish men? Time for them to step up. Their black heroines await. We need more Jussie Smolletts.

  82. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    ” They have not forgotten what is important. ”

    Yeah, dump and run.

    Don’t pretend like negroes in general have any clue about the importance of reproductive rates. If something feels good now, it doesn’t matter what consequences follow.

  83. “NYT: to Make Up for Centuries of White Privilege, White Men Should Romance Black Women”

    It’s almost like Salamishah knows negro women have the lowest SMV of all races and that’s why white men should only have access to them.

  84. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    I love the tale of “Screaming’” Jay Hawkins, who had a website set up to identify his 30+ kids he fathered while touring the world on the basis of his (truly excellent) “I Put A Spell On You”.

    Travis Henry, RB, of Buffalo Bills fame – 9 kids. Antonio Cromartie being unable to name his 8 kids was a staple .mov from HBO’s excellent “Hard Knocks” NFL Training camp series:

    Being the big man means never having to worry about the future. In many cases, it will just take care of itself.

  85. @Mr McKenna
    @Anon


    Author’s bio says she got raped in college. Twice.

    Something doesn’t seem right.
     

    Maybe she made it up, maybe she didn't. Who's to know? I do know this: no self-respecting and even remotely-feminist woman in the year 2020 would dare venture into the public realm without a couple of rape histories to relate. Very seldom were they ever reported (or even mentioned) at or near the time they are supposed to have occurred. Ya gotta hand that one to Jackie Coakley--she wasted no time telling her story.

    Replies: @dcthrowback

    unprovable Come-uppies just as important as the pieces of paper that say Phd from an Ivy League school in scoring high in our current twitter Wokemon tournament

  86. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

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    Ha, no. In many cases this has nothing to do with the men, everything to do with women drawn to money and fame. The men are donors. No money or fame? Still no shortage of donors. Dennis Rodman’s father totaled 23. Since there is a great shortage of suitable males other standards are substituted.
    Also, MLK, 4 that you know of. Many of those numbers are low.

  87. @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Uh, most US men aren’t buying it, not even other races are buying it.
     
    Nobody said that breaking racist conditioning was easy......


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f8/07/d1/f807d149750a199b3ed36986241f303c.jpg



    https://maggiemcneill.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ludovico-technique.jpg

    Replies: @bruce county

    If Obama had a son.

  88. @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    The one child of Hemmings was exhumed.

     

    Sally Hemings had 6 children of whom 4 survived to adulthood.

    The DNA tests showed that TJ in fact was NOT the father.
     
    That never happened.

    However, DNA testing on surviving Hemings descendants show that at least one branch (ironically one that crossed the color line and became "white" again) has Jefferson DNA, although as you point out we can't say which Jefferson (although the Carr nephews have been ruled out) . However there is a lot of evidence that points to TJ.

    https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

    Replies: @james wilson, @Nicholas Stix

    No, the dates of birth point to Tom’s brother. Tom was typical of the 18th century lord of manor, social distancing even of good looking quadroons was ingrained. Breeding with slaves would ruin a man’s place in the social scene faster than all else, and women of that class would be damn sure that it did. Black historians love to think TJ and Sally had their thing, proving at the same time that we are really all the same and also that white’s raped blacks. Tom didn’t refrain because he’s sainted and carved on Mt. Rushmore but because as a man of his time the act of screwing a slave was repugnant to him. This too is a sin of course in the 21st.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @james wilson

    According to the Hemings sons, TJ never screwed around with any of the slaves but he made a special exception for Sally who, supposedly being the 1/2 sister of his late and beloved wife and 3/4 white, resembled her a lot. Whoever was the father of Hemings's sons, some of them were white enough to move north and live as white people.

    Personally I don't buy into the "Jefferson was a person of such high character that it's impossible that he slept with a slave" argument. Humans, even those of supposedly high character, are capable of a lot of things when it comes to matter of the heart (or regions lower than the heart).

  89. Ah, matters of the heart. I got confused about dating early in adolescence when my decidedly, white hillbilly dad told me if I ever brought a Puerto Rican girl home he would kick my ass. This came from a guy who in post-WWII Texas married a Mexican/American girl. Go figure.

    I learned my lesson. I may have dated one or two but I never brought them home. Dunno what he would have done if I had brought a black girl home.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Enemy of Earth

    First I've heard of hillbillies even being aware of Puerto Ricans.

    Replies: @Enemy of Earth

  90. Assuming Rashida Jones does not count here, I have to go way way back to Barbara McNair to find a black woman I ever found even fleetingly attractive – and she like so many others had to fight a tragic lifelong battle against bad hairstyles.

  91. @Lloyd1927
    @Coag

    Sally Hemings was 3/4 white (the daughter of Jefferson's father-in-law).

    The only known descriptions of Hemings come from another slave at Monticello, Isaac Jefferson, who stated that she was "mighty near white ... very handsome, long straight hair down her back," and Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall, who once recalled Jefferson's grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph's description of Hemings: "[She was] light colored and decidedly good looking."

    So, while blacks foolishly claim Hemings as an icon and black women imagine resting their kinky heads on the breast of the great TJ, the truth is very different.

    Replies: @Coag, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob, @Mr. Grey, @Truth

    I think she was actually 7/8th’s white.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Mr. Grey

    ...15/16th's going once...
    ...Twice...
    ...The gentleman in the back bids 31/32'nds...

  92. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children.

    Almost no one is famous. The total fertility rate for black women is 2.1 children per woman per lifetime. While we’re at it, about 1/2 of the people on your list would not have been out of the ordinary in my parents’ circle of friends. Four or five children is a sweet complement; it’s not a ‘huge’ complement.

  93. @Anon
    Author's bio says she got raped in college. Twice.

    Something doesn't seem right. There's no mention of her calling the police afterwards. You'd think the second time, you'd wise up and want to get the guy in trouble. Was she dating only blacks back then?

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Art Deco, @Pop Warner

    Either she has had an incredible run of bad luck, or she’s very imprudent about who she spends time with where, or she’s lying her tuchus off.

  94. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Hibernian

    And coincidentally, many African-Americans have Irish surnames. This doesn't exactly make much sense, as most Irish Americans didn't own slaves in the 19th century. It's understandable that many African-Americans would tend to have Scots-Irish surnames (as many of them do in addition to having Irish surnames), but that is a strange phenomenon.

    Like, how did they get Irish surnames if their ancestors' masters weren't Irish themselves?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Art Deco, @kikz

    Because there isn’t a discrete distinction between a protestant and a Catholic surname in Ireland, though protestants are much more prevalent among the holders of some surnames than others. Also, some surnames which appear Irish are more Scottish in origin (McCollum is one).

  95. @Franz
    Salamishah Tillet ???

    What's up with the legacy media hiring only people with names that seem like they come from a J.R.R. Tolkien fantasy?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Franz, or Mediterranean Deli…”The Salami Shah”

  96. @syonredux

    The Molly-Andrew relationship is part of a larger cultural trend in which black women, especially those of medium-to-dark-brown complexions — long positioned at the bottom of the aesthetic and social hierarchy in the United States because of racist standards — are increasingly appearing as leading ladies and romantic ideals in interracial relationships onscreen.
     
    Think of it as aesthetic affirmative action. Americans must convince themselves that women who look like this


    http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/danai-gurira-4.jpg

    are just as attractive as women who look like this


    https://earthenergyreader.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/monica-bellucci-1024x768-24236.jpg

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Buffalo Joe, @Anonymous, @Truth

    syon, she got her hair head rubbed down to a nub.

  97. @Clyde
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamishah_Tillet

    Check out her wiki. It is all self-authored. I will give her credit for looking 75% on the scale of blackitude and not some bitchy Creole-Octaroon-Megan Markle-light skin fake artist/ We are getting some truth from this 40+ girl. Who btw...... Cov19 or no Cov19, this useless eater parasite is currently gettin' paid via taxpayers via Rutgers U.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Kibernetika, @Bard of Bumperstickers

    It appears that she is/has been a “Silk Burner” or Chinese academic looking types have a hobby as a chimney sweep.

    Salamishah Tillet and John Kuo Wei Tchen

  98. @Anonymous
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Ireland, then, was an integral part of the UK.
    So, not unlikely, many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business.

    Replies: @Anon

    “many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business.”

    You know nothing about historical Ireland. Your average Irishman was too dirt-poor to own a plantation. After Oliver Cromwell, the rich Irish and the ‘Irish nobility’ were all aristocratic English families exported from England.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Ever heard of the Carroll family?- one of the biggest slaveowners in the old South.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anon

    This is a common misconception.
    Although relatively few in number, and subject to religious discrimination, there were well-to-do Catholic families in Ireland during the time of British government.
    The notion that all Catholic Irishmen were hard scrabble peasants, without a professional class, landowners and tradespeople between them is simply false.
    It goes without saying that priests were recruited from 'good' families, for example.

    , @kikz
    @Anon

    many irish were overseers...........................................

  99. @Glaivester
    I remember a piece on PBS where some black woman was complaining about the racial implications of the fact that an interracial couple she knew (a white man and a black woman, I believe the woman was her friend) had decided to have a "plantation-style" wedding.

    Implied in the story was that the husband was unaware of his privilege and of how insensitive such a theme for a wedding would be.

    Not considered was the issue of which member of the couple was almost certainly the one who chose (and indeed, who cared) what the theme of the wedding was and who probably did 90% of the planning for the wedding.

    Replies: @Pericles, @Buffalo Joe

    Glav, Anni DiFranco is from Buffalo, and was big in music and women issues. Then she hosted a conference at a 5 star resort that was called Amelia Island Plantation. Hounded poor Anni for her insensitivity. 1619 was yesterday.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Buffalo Joe

    That was pretty hysterical. As I recall not one of the critics was descended from slaves. The people descended from slaves also never gave a shit about the Robert Lee and Jefferson Davis statues.

    I wonder if Difranco's agent that set up the plantation gig got fired. Pretty sure she doesn't call around and set up her facilities rental arrangements herself.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  100. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

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    Screamin’ Jay Hawkins

  101. @SFG
    Long as we don't romance Asian women, right...?

    (The double standards make sense in terms of intrasexual competition. And Asian men and black women lose out, as you pointed out 25 years ago.)

    Replies: @ADL Pyramid of Hate

    I just read that article (assuming you’re referring to the one in National Review) last week. Being about the same age as the article, I always find it refreshing to be reminded that most contemporary woke neuroses differ in degree but not kind from those of days gone by.

  102. Since H0llywood considers white men to be the evilest of evil men ever I don’t think we will see a lot of white men-black women romantic comedies anytime soon

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Andy

    But the point is 1) they can use it as a way to demonstrate how irredeemable white men are and at the same time 2) demonstrate their only possible path to reconciliation.

  103. This high paternity rate is why Black men are the Master Race. Having lots of kids supported by others is winning strategy. Beta male provision is for losers.

    And yes President Abrams or Biden will make it mandatory for White people to marry Blacks and illegal for White people to have sex or kids together.

    Gentler kinder final solution to Whitey.

    You should have clapped.

  104. @Michelle
    Here in the Bay Area, there is a new trend wherein average to handsome hipster guys are hooking up with smoking hot, educated black girls with really nice personalities. I started noticing it at the dog park before the shut down. They bring their small dogs to the park. I also have seen more mixed lesbian couples, in which the black halves are very pretty. I think that these women are just not into black inner city culture, sharing their alpha males with other baby Mamas and walking pit bulls instead of Yorkies. These girls are natural and not done up with weaves and fake nails.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @anon, @vhrm

    smoking hot, educated black girls with really nice personalities.

    These ladies actually do exist, but they are rare and the only ones I have ever met were very light-skinned.

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @Justvisiting

    There are some who are very, if not all African. A lot of African immigrants are different than inner city Blacks and some white guys who like Black women prefer really Black women. Like guys who prefer Asian women prefer them to Amerasians and Eurasians. Robert De Niro is one who likes his women distinctively African looking.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

  105. @VinnyVette
    @black sea

    How are you knowledgeable of BB Kings sperm count?

    Replies: @black sea

    The Daily Mail, though this article raises the same issue:

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/bb-kings-estate-war-15-897351

  106. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Mick Jagger has I think 8. Paul Weller too, and he's still in his 50s, just.

    McCartney 5
    Lennon 2
    Harrison 1
    Starkey 3

    Plant 3
    Daltry 8 (he only found out about 3 of them quite recently)

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    It would be interesting that people who know something about those celebrities make a list (or lists) on the topic & put them in various categories (era, occupation,..).

    As I vaguely remember, Louis Armstrong and Wilt Chamberlain didn’t have children, or maybe 1 or 2; Dean Martin had a bunch of them.

    Just, actors & film stars seem to have less children, statistically, than athletes & especially singers/musicians.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "actors & film stars seem to have less children, statistically, than athletes & especially singers/musicians"

    By the time an actor/film star is famous, he's not doing the round of provincial theatres any more (and middle class girls more likely to use contraception). But athletes and musicians tour a lot of different places, and the athletes probably hit the clubs more.

    , @Pericles
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Leonardo di Caprio should have impregnated a large number of young models by now, but how many kids does he actually have?

    Replies: @Michelle

  107. NYT: to Make Up for Centuries of White Privilege, White Men Should Romance Black Women

    Some white men tried that before 1865. Doesn’t seem to get good reviews.

  108. @Paul
    "Ultimately, none of these interracial narratives can make up for our country’s violent racial past or the way that history continues to plague us."


    Violent racial past? Is Salamishah aware of the immensity of the current rate of black-on-white violent crime? She should try to pay attention.

    Replies: @Charon

    Agree, but it’s not just the current rate. It’s been extreme for over 50 years now. And ignored by the national media for just as long.

  109. Anonymous[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Anonymous

    "many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business."

    You know nothing about historical Ireland. Your average Irishman was too dirt-poor to own a plantation. After Oliver Cromwell, the rich Irish and the 'Irish nobility' were all aristocratic English families exported from England.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @kikz

    Ever heard of the Carroll family?- one of the biggest slaveowners in the old South.

  110. @Enemy of Earth
    Ah, matters of the heart. I got confused about dating early in adolescence when my decidedly, white hillbilly dad told me if I ever brought a Puerto Rican girl home he would kick my ass. This came from a guy who in post-WWII Texas married a Mexican/American girl. Go figure.

    I learned my lesson. I may have dated one or two but I never brought them home. Dunno what he would have done if I had brought a black girl home.

    Replies: @Charon

    First I’ve heard of hillbillies even being aware of Puerto Ricans.

    • Replies: @Enemy of Earth
    @Charon

    Well then, I reckon you don't get out and about a whole bunch.

  111. Anonymous[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Anonymous

    "many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business."

    You know nothing about historical Ireland. Your average Irishman was too dirt-poor to own a plantation. After Oliver Cromwell, the rich Irish and the 'Irish nobility' were all aristocratic English families exported from England.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @kikz

    This is a common misconception.
    Although relatively few in number, and subject to religious discrimination, there were well-to-do Catholic families in Ireland during the time of British government.
    The notion that all Catholic Irishmen were hard scrabble peasants, without a professional class, landowners and tradespeople between them is simply false.
    It goes without saying that priests were recruited from ‘good’ families, for example.

  112. This is a sensitive topic & I don’t think much reliable stuff had been published on it (mostly, people lie or succumb to stereotypes). My impression, and I could be wrong, that on erotic level:

    * romances, and I mean really romances between blacks and whites are extremely rare

    * with regard to physical attraction, which could grow into something deeper or lasting:

    a) white men desiring black women? Very rare

    b) black women desiring white men? Very rare

    c) black men desiring white women? Common, perhaps very common

    d) white women desiring black men? Hard to assess, but neither very rare nor common. Probably rare, but common enough. Category d, as different from categories a, b and c, has many elements of fetishism, media brainwashing and virtue signalling (narcissism and conformism).

    Steve did write a good article about IR attraction (black males statistically more “masculine” than whites & Asian females more “feminine” than white females), but there is, I think, more to it (media influences, different cultures’ reactions to visually alien “others”, increase of general promiscuity in a culture etc.).

    And one should not overlook that in many relations between sexes there is a strong element of psychopathology. I would say that female masochism is more widespread than male sadism. Just consider this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pantoliano

    After a Sopranos episode in which his character brutally beat a young stripper to death, during an interview he stated, “After the episode aired a lot more women started hitting on me. I thought it was very revealing.”

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Women should have never been given the voting franchise. Before the feminists come out in droves, hear me out.

    During the time of slavery, the slave owner or his overseer would "introduce" themselves to their newly-acquired slaves by punishing one male slave brutally for committing a minor infraction in front of the slave women.

    After witnessing this, slave women did everything they could to keep their male slaves in check, making the male slaves "behave themselves". They did not want to see their brethren punished, so they exerted much control over the slave community. This is one of the oldest "psychological tricks in the book", and was used to good effect by slave owners..

    Fast forward to the present-day, where black males use the oldest trick in the book to procure white women--guilt. "You won't date me because I'm black"--the proper response SHOULD be "That's right, I don't date outside of my race". Instead, weak-willed white women fall for the "siren song" of "racism" and submit themselves to blacks, destroying their genetic future in the process.
    I realize that there are good, strong-willed white women out there, BUT there are too many who are not.

    The voting franchise should be limited to property-owners, heads of households, current and former military and veterans, those who are financially responsible, and retirees. Excluded would be those on the public dole.

  113. @Andy
    Since H0llywood considers white men to be the evilest of evil men ever I don't think we will see a lot of white men-black women romantic comedies anytime soon

    Replies: @Charon

    But the point is 1) they can use it as a way to demonstrate how irredeemable white men are and at the same time 2) demonstrate their only possible path to reconciliation.

  114. @Anon
    Author's bio says she got raped in college. Twice.

    Something doesn't seem right. There's no mention of her calling the police afterwards. You'd think the second time, you'd wise up and want to get the guy in trouble. Was she dating only blacks back then?

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Art Deco, @Pop Warner

    A white man smirked at her, which we all know is one of the most violent and heinous acts of white supremacy known

    • LOL: kikz
  115. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Hibernian

    And coincidentally, many African-Americans have Irish surnames. This doesn't exactly make much sense, as most Irish Americans didn't own slaves in the 19th century. It's understandable that many African-Americans would tend to have Scots-Irish surnames (as many of them do in addition to having Irish surnames), but that is a strange phenomenon.

    Like, how did they get Irish surnames if their ancestors' masters weren't Irish themselves?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Art Deco, @kikz

    irish overseers, perhaps? may’ve adopted the overseer’s name as CV, as they did owner’s name following the War of Northern Aggression.

  116. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    "many Irishmen got caught up in whole southern plantation business."

    You know nothing about historical Ireland. Your average Irishman was too dirt-poor to own a plantation. After Oliver Cromwell, the rich Irish and the 'Irish nobility' were all aristocratic English families exported from England.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @kikz

    many irish were overseers…………………………………….

  117. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lloyd1927
    Sorry, but black women can blame their own men if they aren't considered pretty enough to play the love/lust interests in Hollywood. Black male stars demanded and got mulatto women (most of them the daughters of white mothers) to play their supposedly "black" leading ladies or sexual interests in movies, TV and videos. This practice can be so ridiculous that a black male will be paired with a woman white enough to play an Italian in a "Godfather" movie and we are supposed to sit back and be "color-blind" about it, pretending that the women are "black.". If black males WANTED to play opposite women as black as themselves, Hollywood would have accommodated them.

    Replies: @anon

    Negro male actors probably have very little say in who plays opposite them. Mr. Cohen director does what Mr. Glickstein producer expects him to do. Actor Lewarne Jackson is told to play the love interest of the blackest of black Latoya Jefferson or the high yaller Lavine Mackindrick or be out of a job. Lewarne Jackson might be giving the impression to the media that he has a say in running the show (and Mr. Glickstein promotes that) which shows “black empowerment” is practiced in Hollywood and makes Mr. Glickstein and Mr. Cohen look good in the eyes of Liberals and government.

  118. In the picture, which one is the man and which is the woman.

  119. @Michelle
    Here in the Bay Area, there is a new trend wherein average to handsome hipster guys are hooking up with smoking hot, educated black girls with really nice personalities. I started noticing it at the dog park before the shut down. They bring their small dogs to the park. I also have seen more mixed lesbian couples, in which the black halves are very pretty. I think that these women are just not into black inner city culture, sharing their alpha males with other baby Mamas and walking pit bulls instead of Yorkies. These girls are natural and not done up with weaves and fake nails.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @anon, @vhrm

    By the complementary way you describe black women you are either one yourself or you want to get yourself one.

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @anon

    You are too silly. I am 1percent North African, by way of my Portuguese 6th great grandma. And, if I want a Black girlfriend, I can have one right now. What planet are you from, that you don't know that women can get sex from men or women any time they want it?

  120. Sure, have Halle Berry orAlicia Keys drop me an email.

  121. @Bardon Kaldian
    This is a sensitive topic & I don't think much reliable stuff had been published on it (mostly, people lie or succumb to stereotypes). My impression, and I could be wrong, that on erotic level:

    * romances, and I mean really romances between blacks and whites are extremely rare

    * with regard to physical attraction, which could grow into something deeper or lasting:

    a) white men desiring black women? Very rare

    b) black women desiring white men? Very rare

    c) black men desiring white women? Common, perhaps very common

    d) white women desiring black men? Hard to assess, but neither very rare nor common. Probably rare, but common enough. Category d, as different from categories a, b and c, has many elements of fetishism, media brainwashing and virtue signalling (narcissism and conformism).

    Steve did write a good article about IR attraction (black males statistically more "masculine" than whites & Asian females more "feminine" than white females), but there is, I think, more to it (media influences, different cultures' reactions to visually alien "others", increase of general promiscuity in a culture etc.).

    And one should not overlook that in many relations between sexes there is a strong element of psychopathology. I would say that female masochism is more widespread than male sadism. Just consider this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pantoliano

    After a Sopranos episode in which his character brutally beat a young stripper to death, during an interview he stated, "After the episode aired a lot more women started hitting on me. I thought it was very revealing."
     

    Replies: @anarchyst

    Women should have never been given the voting franchise. Before the feminists come out in droves, hear me out.

    During the time of slavery, the slave owner or his overseer would “introduce” themselves to their newly-acquired slaves by punishing one male slave brutally for committing a minor infraction in front of the slave women.

    After witnessing this, slave women did everything they could to keep their male slaves in check, making the male slaves “behave themselves”. They did not want to see their brethren punished, so they exerted much control over the slave community. This is one of the oldest “psychological tricks in the book”, and was used to good effect by slave owners..

    Fast forward to the present-day, where black males use the oldest trick in the book to procure white women–guilt. “You won’t date me because I’m black”–the proper response SHOULD be “That’s right, I don’t date outside of my race”. Instead, weak-willed white women fall for the “siren song” of “racism” and submit themselves to blacks, destroying their genetic future in the process.
    I realize that there are good, strong-willed white women out there, BUT there are too many who are not.

    The voting franchise should be limited to property-owners, heads of households, current and former military and veterans, those who are financially responsible, and retirees. Excluded would be those on the public dole.

  122. @njguy73
    @Thomm

    Don't forget:

    Calvin Murphy: 14
    Antonio Cromartie: 14
    Shawn Kemp: 7

    And then there's Screamin' Jay Hawkins. He may have had up to 75.

    Replies: @Thomm

    Thanks. I will add these into a future update. I have limited the list to people who were famous in the 1950-2000 period, as I am disinclined to get up to date on the newest black celebrities. For example, Deontay Wilder also has 8.

    For the time period in question, there are also :

    Coolio : 10
    Eazy-E : 11
    Kurupt : 6
    Kokane : 8
    Floyd Mayweather Sr. : 5
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. : 5

    Jay Hawkins was confirmed at 33+. The real number may be much higher.

  123. @Bardon Kaldian
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It would be interesting that people who know something about those celebrities make a list (or lists) on the topic & put them in various categories (era, occupation,..).

    As I vaguely remember, Louis Armstrong and Wilt Chamberlain didn't have children, or maybe 1 or 2; Dean Martin had a bunch of them.

    Just, actors & film stars seem to have less children, statistically, than athletes & especially singers/musicians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Pericles

    “actors & film stars seem to have less children, statistically, than athletes & especially singers/musicians”

    By the time an actor/film star is famous, he’s not doing the round of provincial theatres any more (and middle class girls more likely to use contraception). But athletes and musicians tour a lot of different places, and the athletes probably hit the clubs more.

  124. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux

    The Molly-Andrew relationship is part of a larger cultural trend in which black women, especially those of medium-to-dark-brown complexions — long positioned at the bottom of the aesthetic and social hierarchy in the United States because of racist standards — are increasingly appearing as leading ladies and romantic ideals in interracial relationships onscreen.
     
    Think of it as aesthetic affirmative action. Americans must convince themselves that women who look like this


    http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/danai-gurira-4.jpg

    are just as attractive as women who look like this


    https://earthenergyreader.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/monica-bellucci-1024x768-24236.jpg

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Buffalo Joe, @Anonymous, @Truth

    Ah, Monica Bellucci, arguably the most beautiful woman of all times(exaggeration? No: watch this: https://youtu.be/Jh_JN8hco_0)

    But Ms.Bellucci is an *extreme* outlier. She is a one-in-a-billion beauty. How many white women look like her? I’ve never seen any. I have seen a few beautiful white women, but not like this. Most look very plain. It’s pretty silly to use an extreme outlier like Monica Bellucci to argue that white women as a whole are more attractive than black women.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Anonymous

    How can 15 million black dudes be wrong? Wait, scratch that.

    , @syonredux
    @Anonymous


    . It’s pretty silly to use an extreme outlier like Monica Bellucci to argue that white women as a whole are more attractive than black women.
     
    Think of it this way: When it comes to the Belle Curve, Europeans have significantly more outliers on the Right Side than do Blacks....


    https://waldinadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/sophia-loren.jpeg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c5/88/01/c58801f823d6701998953a0a81bf5a19.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/13/96/dd/1396dddbd969fb9c7531d6ce9f93bd38.jpg
  125. @Charon
    @Enemy of Earth

    First I've heard of hillbillies even being aware of Puerto Ricans.

    Replies: @Enemy of Earth

    Well then, I reckon you don’t get out and about a whole bunch.

  126. @Buffalo Joe
    @Glaivester

    Glav, Anni DiFranco is from Buffalo, and was big in music and women issues. Then she hosted a conference at a 5 star resort that was called Amelia Island Plantation. Hounded poor Anni for her insensitivity. 1619 was yesterday.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    That was pretty hysterical. As I recall not one of the critics was descended from slaves. The people descended from slaves also never gave a shit about the Robert Lee and Jefferson Davis statues.

    I wonder if Difranco’s agent that set up the plantation gig got fired. Pretty sure she doesn’t call around and set up her facilities rental arrangements herself.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Morton's toes

    Mort, well they lost out because we stayed there and it was spectacular. And if you really want to make a statement, don't even live in the former slave states. Move to.....oh, wait a minute, never mind.

  127. @Justvisiting
    @Michelle


    smoking hot, educated black girls with really nice personalities.
     
    These ladies actually do exist, but they are rare and the only ones I have ever met were very light-skinned.

    Replies: @Michelle

    There are some who are very, if not all African. A lot of African immigrants are different than inner city Blacks and some white guys who like Black women prefer really Black women. Like guys who prefer Asian women prefer them to Amerasians and Eurasians. Robert De Niro is one who likes his women distinctively African looking.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Michelle

    As they say, the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

    Replies: @Michelle, @Jim Don Bob

  128. @james wilson
    @Jack D

    No, the dates of birth point to Tom's brother. Tom was typical of the 18th century lord of manor, social distancing even of good looking quadroons was ingrained. Breeding with slaves would ruin a man's place in the social scene faster than all else, and women of that class would be damn sure that it did. Black historians love to think TJ and Sally had their thing, proving at the same time that we are really all the same and also that white's raped blacks. Tom didn't refrain because he's sainted and carved on Mt. Rushmore but because as a man of his time the act of screwing a slave was repugnant to him. This too is a sin of course in the 21st.

    Replies: @Jack D

    According to the Hemings sons, TJ never screwed around with any of the slaves but he made a special exception for Sally who, supposedly being the 1/2 sister of his late and beloved wife and 3/4 white, resembled her a lot. Whoever was the father of Hemings’s sons, some of them were white enough to move north and live as white people.

    Personally I don’t buy into the “Jefferson was a person of such high character that it’s impossible that he slept with a slave” argument. Humans, even those of supposedly high character, are capable of a lot of things when it comes to matter of the heart (or regions lower than the heart).

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  129. @Morton's toes
    @Buffalo Joe

    That was pretty hysterical. As I recall not one of the critics was descended from slaves. The people descended from slaves also never gave a shit about the Robert Lee and Jefferson Davis statues.

    I wonder if Difranco's agent that set up the plantation gig got fired. Pretty sure she doesn't call around and set up her facilities rental arrangements herself.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Mort, well they lost out because we stayed there and it was spectacular. And if you really want to make a statement, don’t even live in the former slave states. Move to…..oh, wait a minute, never mind.

  130. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Screamin’ Jay Hawkins: 33 identified, claimed 57 or sometimes 75.

  131. @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    Ah, Monica Bellucci, arguably the most beautiful woman of all times(exaggeration? No: watch this: https://youtu.be/Jh_JN8hco_0)

    But Ms.Bellucci is an *extreme* outlier. She is a one-in-a-billion beauty. How many white women look like her? I've never seen any. I have seen a few beautiful white women, but not like this. Most look very plain. It's pretty silly to use an extreme outlier like Monica Bellucci to argue that white women as a whole are more attractive than black women.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @syonredux

    How can 15 million black dudes be wrong? Wait, scratch that.

  132. @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    Ah, Monica Bellucci, arguably the most beautiful woman of all times(exaggeration? No: watch this: https://youtu.be/Jh_JN8hco_0)

    But Ms.Bellucci is an *extreme* outlier. She is a one-in-a-billion beauty. How many white women look like her? I've never seen any. I have seen a few beautiful white women, but not like this. Most look very plain. It's pretty silly to use an extreme outlier like Monica Bellucci to argue that white women as a whole are more attractive than black women.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose, @syonredux

    . It’s pretty silly to use an extreme outlier like Monica Bellucci to argue that white women as a whole are more attractive than black women.

    Think of it this way: When it comes to the Belle Curve, Europeans have significantly more outliers on the Right Side than do Blacks….

  133. This white dude has impregnated dozens of black ladies by request.:

    https://nypost.com/2019/06/15/the-sperminators-50th-baby-mama-is-a-homeless-18-year-old-from-the-bronx/

    Here’s the issue, all the Single (black) ladies. It’s like how Public Enemy explained the One Drop rule in their seminal album Fear of a Black Planet:

    White Man/Black Woman: Black baby
    Black Man/White Woman: Black baby

    Also, the child is likely to grow up and go into the lucrative Mulattos Hating Whitey racket.

  134. Vomit. Just my two cents…

  135. Boxer Sonny Liston’s father sired 25 chilluns.

  136. @Thomm
    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW

    ____________________________________________

    The fact is, famous black men have a huge number of children. They have not forgotten what is important. Below is a list I compiled of black men who were famous at any point between 1950 and 2000, and the number of children. The numbers are surprisingly high :

    Elijah Muhammad : 23
    George Foreman : 10
    Ray Charles : 12 (!!!)
    Sammy Davis Jr. : 4
    Harry Bellafonte : 4
    James Meredith : 4
    Richard Pryor : 7
    James Brown : 13
    BB King : 15
    Richard Roundtree : 5
    Sidney Poitier : 6
    Fats Domino : 8
    Otis Redding : 4
    Chuck Berry : 4
    Sam Cooke : 6 (would have had more)
    Louis Farrakhan : 9
    MLK : 4 (would have had more)
    Ralph Abernathy : 5
    Jesse Jackson : 6
    Willie Brown : 4
    Muhammad Ali : 9
    Mike Tyson : 8
    Evander Holyfield : 11
    Berry Gordy : 8
    Jackie Jackson : 4
    Jermaine Jackson : 7
    Stevie Wonder : 9 (!!!)
    Quincy Jones : 7
    Barry White : 9
    Isaac Hayes : 14
    Bob Marley : 9 (not an American, technically, but still).
    Philip Bailey : 7
    Curtis Mayfield : 10
    Jackie Wilson : 9
    Al Green : 6
    Lou Rawls : 4
    Bill Cosby : 5
    Ahmad Rashad : 5
    Ben Vereen : 5
    Robert Guillaume : 5
    Lawrence Fishburne : 4
    Larry Holmes : 5
    Ernie Hudson : 4
    Fred Williamson : 6
    Morgan Freeman : 4
    Yaphet Kotto : 6
    Eddie Murphy : 10
    Phillip Michael Thomas : 11
    Denzel Washington : 4
    Cuba Gooding Sr : 4
    Wesley Snipes : 5
    Doug Williams : 8
    OJ Simpson : 5
    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar : 5
    Michael Jordan : 5
    Scottie Pippen : 5
    Karl Malone : 7
    Shaquille O’Neal : 5
    Emmitt Smith : 4
    William ‘Fridge’ Perry : 4
    Deion Sanders : 5
    MC Hammer : 5
    Bobby Brown : 7
    P Diddy : 6
    Master P : 7
    Snoop Dogg : 4
    MC Ren : 5
    Dr. Dre : 6
    Warren G : 4
    John Singleton : 7
    Ice Cube : 4
    Steve Harvey : 7
    Eddie Griffin : 9
    Tracy Morgan : 4
    Kanye West : 4

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Mr McKenna, @Hibernian, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @Bardon Kaldian, @Hapalong Cassidy, @RAZ, @Morton's toes, @njguy73, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre, @dcthrowback, @james wilson, @Art Deco, @obwandiyag, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Kolya Krassotkin

    Eddie Murphy has 10 children? If he learned how to distinguish between a real woman and a tranny, he’d have still more.

  137. @Clyde
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamishah_Tillet

    Check out her wiki. It is all self-authored. I will give her credit for looking 75% on the scale of blackitude and not some bitchy Creole-Octaroon-Megan Markle-light skin fake artist/ We are getting some truth from this 40+ girl. Who btw...... Cov19 or no Cov19, this useless eater parasite is currently gettin' paid via taxpayers via Rutgers U.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Kibernetika, @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Well, I must confess to fantasizing about Stacey Abrams as a romantic partner. We don’t have much in common, but I imagine scooching up next to her at a bar. Yeah. Now husky voice, and whispering in her ear that she reminds me of a fertility figurine from the paleolithic.

    And I’ve got good insurance, so her inevitable type-2 diabetes is no problem. I want to put her in the bath tub, figure her mass from the displacement of water, whisper “eureka” in her ear and: Touch. Her. Hair.

    • LOL: Enemy of Earth
    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Kibernetika

    You ain't right, boy.

    , @Pericles
    @Kibernetika

    Just take that weave in both hands and crush it.

  138. @Michelle
    @Justvisiting

    There are some who are very, if not all African. A lot of African immigrants are different than inner city Blacks and some white guys who like Black women prefer really Black women. Like guys who prefer Asian women prefer them to Amerasians and Eurasians. Robert De Niro is one who likes his women distinctively African looking.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    As they say, the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I trust your experience, Jim!

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    I like my coffee the way I like my women. Hot, black, and picked up at 7-11.

  139. @Anonymous
    Apparently, a black woman is an astonishing *20x* more likely to murder a white spouse than a white woman is to murder her white husband.

    Whatever else white women might be, the are, typically, not deadly.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @RoyaleWCheese

    Where did you get that stat exactly?

  140. @Clyde
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamishah_Tillet

    Check out her wiki. It is all self-authored. I will give her credit for looking 75% on the scale of blackitude and not some bitchy Creole-Octaroon-Megan Markle-light skin fake artist/ We are getting some truth from this 40+ girl. Who btw...... Cov19 or no Cov19, this useless eater parasite is currently gettin' paid via taxpayers via Rutgers U.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Kibernetika, @Bard of Bumperstickers

    The bottom line is she’s rejecting black guys; odds are her “serial rapist” was black. She’s also hinting that, in her view, eugenics/selective breeding would necessitate making whiter and whiter descendants.

  141. @Lloyd1927
    @Coag

    Sally Hemings was 3/4 white (the daughter of Jefferson's father-in-law).

    The only known descriptions of Hemings come from another slave at Monticello, Isaac Jefferson, who stated that she was "mighty near white ... very handsome, long straight hair down her back," and Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall, who once recalled Jefferson's grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph's description of Hemings: "[She was] light colored and decidedly good looking."

    So, while blacks foolishly claim Hemings as an icon and black women imagine resting their kinky heads on the breast of the great TJ, the truth is very different.

    Replies: @Coag, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jim Don Bob, @Mr. Grey, @Truth

    Yes, Sally Hemmings was Jefferson’s wife’s 13 year old sister.

    Classy conservative there.

  142. @Anonymous (n)
    @syonredux

    So hold on, are you saying you prefer that the media push the black male white female pairing over the reverse? Because if so, and assuming you're a white male, that's pretty cucked.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux, @Truth

    So hold on, are you saying you prefer that the media push the black male white female pairing over the reverse? Because if so, and assuming you’re a white male, that’s pretty cucked.

    No, that’s not what I’m saying.

  143. @Kibernetika
    @Clyde

    Well, I must confess to fantasizing about Stacey Abrams as a romantic partner. We don't have much in common, but I imagine scooching up next to her at a bar. Yeah. Now husky voice, and whispering in her ear that she reminds me of a fertility figurine from the paleolithic.

    And I've got good insurance, so her inevitable type-2 diabetes is no problem. I want to put her in the bath tub, figure her mass from the displacement of water, whisper "eureka" in her ear and: Touch. Her. Hair.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Pericles

    You ain’t right, boy.

  144. @syonredux

    The Molly-Andrew relationship is part of a larger cultural trend in which black women, especially those of medium-to-dark-brown complexions — long positioned at the bottom of the aesthetic and social hierarchy in the United States because of racist standards — are increasingly appearing as leading ladies and romantic ideals in interracial relationships onscreen.
     
    Think of it as aesthetic affirmative action. Americans must convince themselves that women who look like this


    http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/danai-gurira-4.jpg

    are just as attractive as women who look like this


    https://earthenergyreader.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/monica-bellucci-1024x768-24236.jpg

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Buffalo Joe, @Anonymous, @Truth

    Again Old Sport, both boys.

    Bellucci could do Globetrotter tricks with that 12 inch hand on top of his head.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Truth

    I'm really starting to worry about you, dear boy. This is getting a tad obsessive....




    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*7qzY2nYNklWQDeLa0N_ueA.jpeg

    Replies: @Truth

  145. @Anonymous (n)
    @syonredux

    So hold on, are you saying you prefer that the media push the black male white female pairing over the reverse? Because if so, and assuming you're a white male, that's pretty cucked.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux, @Truth

    assuming you’re a white male, that’s pretty cucked.

    assuming you’re a white male, that’s pretty cucked.

    LOL, well you won the prize with that part alone.

    Do you want the Teddy Bear or the Kupie doll?

  146. That’s a very long-winded way to spell “inferiority complex.”

  147. @Truth
    @syonredux

    Again Old Sport, both boys.

    Bellucci could do Globetrotter tricks with that 12 inch hand on top of his head.

    Replies: @syonredux

    I’m really starting to worry about you, dear boy. This is getting a tad obsessive….

    • Replies: @Truth
    @syonredux


    This is getting a tad obsessive….
     
    I would agree.

    I would estimate you have put up the same picture 4o times now.

    Replies: @syonredux

  148. @Hibernian
    @Thomm

    Mr. Charles and Mr. Wonder were blind, and also very successful. Also, many of these men you have listed have 4,5, or 6 kids.. You could go to an Irish neighborhood, like Beverly in Chicago, and find the same phenomenon.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @MBlanc46

    That was sure the case when I was a kid in the 1950s. I’m a bit skeptical that it’s still the case.

  149. @Mr. Grey
    @Lloyd1927

    I think she was actually 7/8th's white.

    Replies: @Truth

    …15/16th’s going once…
    …Twice…
    …The gentleman in the back bids 31/32’nds…

  150. @syonredux
    @Truth

    I'm really starting to worry about you, dear boy. This is getting a tad obsessive....




    https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*7qzY2nYNklWQDeLa0N_ueA.jpeg

    Replies: @Truth

    This is getting a tad obsessive….

    I would agree.

    I would estimate you have put up the same picture 4o times now.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Truth


    I would agree.

    I would estimate you have put up the same picture 4o times now.
     
    Yes, it does seem that you're not making much progress......But we're here for you. Whenever you're ready to unburden yourself.....



    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2017/08/30/rucovershi_copy.jpg

    Replies: @Truth

  151. @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    The one child of Hemmings was exhumed.

     

    Sally Hemings had 6 children of whom 4 survived to adulthood.

    The DNA tests showed that TJ in fact was NOT the father.
     
    That never happened.

    However, DNA testing on surviving Hemings descendants show that at least one branch (ironically one that crossed the color line and became "white" again) has Jefferson DNA, although as you point out we can't say which Jefferson (although the Carr nephews have been ruled out) . However there is a lot of evidence that points to TJ.

    https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/

    Replies: @james wilson, @Nicholas Stix

    That’s a hoax site, Jack. There is no evidence that points to Thomas Jefferson having fathered any of Sally Hemings’ children. The hoaxers can’t even keep their lies straight (did she have six or seven children?), which is typical for this sort of thing.

    The “story” of Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson is America’s ur-race hoax.

    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2019/07/giving-thomas-jefferson-business-sally.html

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Nicholas Stix

    The 'hoax site' you're referring to is the site of the museum at Monticello. Their docents can be pretty funny. You half expect them to tell you Jefferson's noodling around in his basement anticipated high-energy physics by 150 years. I suspect they're on the level with this.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  152. @Truth
    @syonredux


    This is getting a tad obsessive….
     
    I would agree.

    I would estimate you have put up the same picture 4o times now.

    Replies: @syonredux

    I would agree.

    I would estimate you have put up the same picture 4o times now.

    Yes, it does seem that you’re not making much progress……But we’re here for you. Whenever you’re ready to unburden yourself…..

    • Replies: @Truth
    @syonredux


    But we’re here for you. Whenever you’re ready to unburden yourself…..
     
    I don't think you're my type.

    Replies: @syonredux

  153. @anon
    @Michelle

    By the complementary way you describe black women you are either one yourself or you want to get yourself one.

    Replies: @Michelle

    You are too silly. I am 1percent North African, by way of my Portuguese 6th great grandma. And, if I want a Black girlfriend, I can have one right now. What planet are you from, that you don’t know that women can get sex from men or women any time they want it?

  154. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Michelle

    As they say, the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

    Replies: @Michelle, @Jim Don Bob

    I trust your experience, Jim!

  155. @syonredux
    @Truth


    I would agree.

    I would estimate you have put up the same picture 4o times now.
     
    Yes, it does seem that you're not making much progress......But we're here for you. Whenever you're ready to unburden yourself.....



    https://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/2017/08/30/rucovershi_copy.jpg

    Replies: @Truth

    But we’re here for you. Whenever you’re ready to unburden yourself…..

    I don’t think you’re my type.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Truth


    But we’re here for you. Whenever you’re ready to unburden yourself…..

    I don’t think you’re my type.
     
    Of course not, dear boy. We all know about your proclivities.....


    http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/11/jenkins1.png
  156. Well, heck, if Haile Berry is available, I have a white friend who would be interested.

  157. @Truth
    @syonredux


    But we’re here for you. Whenever you’re ready to unburden yourself…..
     
    I don't think you're my type.

    Replies: @syonredux

    But we’re here for you. Whenever you’re ready to unburden yourself…..

    I don’t think you’re my type.

    Of course not, dear boy. We all know about your proclivities…..

  158. vhrm says:
    @Michelle
    Here in the Bay Area, there is a new trend wherein average to handsome hipster guys are hooking up with smoking hot, educated black girls with really nice personalities. I started noticing it at the dog park before the shut down. They bring their small dogs to the park. I also have seen more mixed lesbian couples, in which the black halves are very pretty. I think that these women are just not into black inner city culture, sharing their alpha males with other baby Mamas and walking pit bulls instead of Yorkies. These girls are natural and not done up with weaves and fake nails.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @anon, @vhrm

    The issue is that even if she’s fine now and maybe even always a white guy will end up with “black” kids.
    And in our culture there’s a not insignificant chance that they’ll grow up “woke” and hate their father for being a slaver who “raped” their mom because … red lining and Ever Till.

    imo the issue isn’t primarily the people, it’s the racial grievance. (although it’s true too that since becoming more HBD aware … concerns about reversion to norm and stuff make me think of trying not to make dysgenic reproductive choices)

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @vhrm

    Here in the Bay Area, that is not much of an issue. If you have a fear of that happening, but prefer a bit of coffee with your cream, move here. I know many half Black people and they love their white parents.

  159. @Nicholas Stix
    @Jack D

    That's a hoax site, Jack. There is no evidence that points to Thomas Jefferson having fathered any of Sally Hemings' children. The hoaxers can't even keep their lies straight (did she have six or seven children?), which is typical for this sort of thing.

    The "story" of Sally Hemings and Thomas Jefferson is America's ur-race hoax.

    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2019/07/giving-thomas-jefferson-business-sally.html

    Replies: @Art Deco

    The ‘hoax site’ you’re referring to is the site of the museum at Monticello. Their docents can be pretty funny. You half expect them to tell you Jefferson’s noodling around in his basement anticipated high-energy physics by 150 years. I suspect they’re on the level with this.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Art Deco

    The Monticello Foundation may not be a hoax site, but they rolled over on the Sally Hemmings bs years ago and now all her peeps are invited to TJ's parties. Disgraceful.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  160. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Michelle

    As they say, the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

    Replies: @Michelle, @Jim Don Bob

    I like my coffee the way I like my women. Hot, black, and picked up at 7-11.

  161. Hasn’t Shonda Rhimes been pushing this stuff on her Scandal and How to Get Away with Murder ABC soap opera night time shows? How effective has that been in promoting BF & WM couples? I haven’t seen any in the past few years in Chicago.

  162. @RAZ
    @Thomm

    Followers of the quiverfull movement. But the Duggars (19, and still counting?) have them all beat except for Elijah. Though Duggars had them all together.

    Except for a few outliers, most of those on the list are about 4 or 5 kids. Maybe not that different from well known famous white entertainers/sports figures who have had several wives? I just randomly looked up Bob Dylan and he had 6.

    Replies: @njguy73

    Norman Mailer had 8, as has Mick Jagger as of this post.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @njguy73

    Jagger might not be done. For some women, getting knocked up by Mick Jagger is probably a good career move and a good reproductive strategy.

    Replies: @Michelle

  163. @Bardon Kaldian
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It would be interesting that people who know something about those celebrities make a list (or lists) on the topic & put them in various categories (era, occupation,..).

    As I vaguely remember, Louis Armstrong and Wilt Chamberlain didn't have children, or maybe 1 or 2; Dean Martin had a bunch of them.

    Just, actors & film stars seem to have less children, statistically, than athletes & especially singers/musicians.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Pericles

    Leonardo di Caprio should have impregnated a large number of young models by now, but how many kids does he actually have?

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @Pericles

    I never thought of that. Though, he has a lot of money to support kids, he has no talent nor good looks to pass on. I liked him in Once Upon a Time, but he is no great shakes in the acting dept. Tiger Woods, however, has talent and should have more kids. He should have had a few with Lindsey Vonn. Clint Eastwood is still good for a few more. He has looks and talent to spare.

  164. @Kibernetika
    @Clyde

    Well, I must confess to fantasizing about Stacey Abrams as a romantic partner. We don't have much in common, but I imagine scooching up next to her at a bar. Yeah. Now husky voice, and whispering in her ear that she reminds me of a fertility figurine from the paleolithic.

    And I've got good insurance, so her inevitable type-2 diabetes is no problem. I want to put her in the bath tub, figure her mass from the displacement of water, whisper "eureka" in her ear and: Touch. Her. Hair.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Pericles

    Just take that weave in both hands and crush it.

  165. @Jim Given
    I wonder if any of the recent cultural conservatives and revisionists of the post-WWII American cultural scene has written a good book on the enlistment of daytime TV soap operas in the selling of the cultural revolution to American women. The normalization of casual sex, divorce, homosexual lifestyles, etc. seems to owe a lot to these topics receiving emotional moving, persuasive presentation on the soaps.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

    Not an expert, but when I watched YATR with the presbytera I never really saw casual sex of the meet a stranger at the bar and go home that night variety. And YATR resisted fahggots and inter-racial for a long time… longer than did prime time TV.

    The divorce is mostly plot-driven. Its darn hard to keep a soap going as long as they want it to if your most popular characters only get married once. I’ve always found soap operas “more real”, in both dialogue and plot, than their prime time TV “serious” counterparts … and less propagandistic.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Father Coughlin

    If you say so. My mother didn't care for them or watch them. Based on the bits she'd seen, what hit her was how opinionated and officious the characters were in regard to each other's domestic lives; she'd never had friends like that.

    What perplexes one about soap operas is that the actors, writers, &c can produce the amount of content they do. They have to produce about 250 episodes per year. I once saw an interview with a retired actress where she discussed the production process of a 1/2 hour prime time comedy. She said in her time (ca. 1971), generating a half-hour episode required four long work days.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  166. @Art Deco
    @Nicholas Stix

    The 'hoax site' you're referring to is the site of the museum at Monticello. Their docents can be pretty funny. You half expect them to tell you Jefferson's noodling around in his basement anticipated high-energy physics by 150 years. I suspect they're on the level with this.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    The Monticello Foundation may not be a hoax site, but they rolled over on the Sally Hemmings bs years ago and now all her peeps are invited to TJ’s parties. Disgraceful.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jim Don Bob

    Not sure what their invitation list is; seems an occult bit of information. Some of Hemings' children were sired by Jefferson males, though not provably Jefferson himself. Has the foundation been putting out pamphlets treating his paternity as established fact?

  167. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:

    … professor of African-American and African studies and creative writing at Rutgers University, Newark where she teaches a class on “Black Rage”

    With so many colleges switching to online classes, and so many colleges and universities will go bankrupt – we can hope that one consequence of COVID-19 is to effectively destroy the American college system. Make it Darwinian. Only practical classes survive. i.e. agriculture, accounting, and such. All the other stuff can be self-taught. Read Plato on your own if interested, etc.

  168. @Jim Don Bob
    @Art Deco

    The Monticello Foundation may not be a hoax site, but they rolled over on the Sally Hemmings bs years ago and now all her peeps are invited to TJ's parties. Disgraceful.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Not sure what their invitation list is; seems an occult bit of information. Some of Hemings’ children were sired by Jefferson males, though not provably Jefferson himself. Has the foundation been putting out pamphlets treating his paternity as established fact?

  169. @Father Coughlin
    @Jim Given

    Not an expert, but when I watched YATR with the presbytera I never really saw casual sex of the meet a stranger at the bar and go home that night variety. And YATR resisted fahggots and inter-racial for a long time... longer than did prime time TV.

    The divorce is mostly plot-driven. Its darn hard to keep a soap going as long as they want it to if your most popular characters only get married once. I've always found soap operas "more real", in both dialogue and plot, than their prime time TV "serious" counterparts ... and less propagandistic.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    If you say so. My mother didn’t care for them or watch them. Based on the bits she’d seen, what hit her was how opinionated and officious the characters were in regard to each other’s domestic lives; she’d never had friends like that.

    What perplexes one about soap operas is that the actors, writers, &c can produce the amount of content they do. They have to produce about 250 episodes per year. I once saw an interview with a retired actress where she discussed the production process of a 1/2 hour prime time comedy. She said in her time (ca. 1971), generating a half-hour episode required four long work days.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Art Deco

    I overheard a middle-aged character actress talking about getting hired by a soap opera to film a three episode story arc. She was highly impressed by the efficiency: she arrived at 8am and left by 10am, with her contribution to the 3 episodes in the can.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  170. @Art Deco
    @Father Coughlin

    If you say so. My mother didn't care for them or watch them. Based on the bits she'd seen, what hit her was how opinionated and officious the characters were in regard to each other's domestic lives; she'd never had friends like that.

    What perplexes one about soap operas is that the actors, writers, &c can produce the amount of content they do. They have to produce about 250 episodes per year. I once saw an interview with a retired actress where she discussed the production process of a 1/2 hour prime time comedy. She said in her time (ca. 1971), generating a half-hour episode required four long work days.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I overheard a middle-aged character actress talking about getting hired by a soap opera to film a three episode story arc. She was highly impressed by the efficiency: she arrived at 8am and left by 10am, with her contribution to the 3 episodes in the can.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Steve Sailer

    Leonard Nimoy was once interviewed and the subject turned to his spot appearances on Dragnet in the 1950s. He said Jack Webb's outfit, Mark Vii Productions, had one imperative, and that was to keep production costs to a minimum. He said you didn't have a clue what was going on in a scene because different parts of the dialog were filmed separately. They also did not re-shoot whole scenes. The direction was, "OK, we'll move back one line and...". Not a lot of art to it.

  171. @syonredux
    @Thomm


    Then she should be just as satisfied with BM-WW as with WM-BW
     
    The equation is simple: BM-WW involves evil Beckys with good hair stealing quality Black men. Even worse, it makes Black women have negative feelings about their bad hair.....


    https://dlisted.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/eddie.jpg



    WM-BW, in contrast, puts those arrogant Beckys in their place and makes Black women feel pretty.....


    https://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Rick-Michonne.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous (n), @Duke84

    I remember when Eddie Murphy was on a talk show a long time ago and he said he would only date black women and the audience cheered.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Duke84


    I remember when Eddie Murphy was on a talk show a long time ago and he said he would only date black women and the audience cheered.
     
    Of course, Eddie's Black paramours tend not to be completely anthracitic.....

    http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Nicole-Murphy-Eddie-Murphy.jpg

  172. @Steve Sailer
    @Art Deco

    I overheard a middle-aged character actress talking about getting hired by a soap opera to film a three episode story arc. She was highly impressed by the efficiency: she arrived at 8am and left by 10am, with her contribution to the 3 episodes in the can.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Leonard Nimoy was once interviewed and the subject turned to his spot appearances on Dragnet in the 1950s. He said Jack Webb’s outfit, Mark Vii Productions, had one imperative, and that was to keep production costs to a minimum. He said you didn’t have a clue what was going on in a scene because different parts of the dialog were filmed separately. They also did not re-shoot whole scenes. The direction was, “OK, we’ll move back one line and…”. Not a lot of art to it.

  173. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @njguy73
    @RAZ

    Norman Mailer had 8, as has Mick Jagger as of this post.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Jagger might not be done. For some women, getting knocked up by Mick Jagger is probably a good career move and a good reproductive strategy.

    • Replies: @Michelle
    @Anonymous

    Absolutely! Same for Clint Eastwood. He still has the great genes.

  174. Maybe if black women lost some weight off their booty they could land a white man. A lot of white men would go for a nice slim ass negress.

  175. @Duke84
    @syonredux

    I remember when Eddie Murphy was on a talk show a long time ago and he said he would only date black women and the audience cheered.

    Replies: @syonredux

    I remember when Eddie Murphy was on a talk show a long time ago and he said he would only date black women and the audience cheered.

    Of course, Eddie’s Black paramours tend not to be completely anthracitic…..

  176. You know, as much as you all have been over-analyzing and over intellectualizing in these comments, you all have ingnored one important thing:

    A male’s deeply held beliefs and convictions can very easily get tossed out a window when he gets offered vagina. At that point, black women suddenly aren’t so unattractive to him.

  177. @vhrm
    @Michelle

    The issue is that even if she's fine now and maybe even always a white guy will end up with "black" kids.
    And in our culture there's a not insignificant chance that they'll grow up "woke" and hate their father for being a slaver who "raped" their mom because ... red lining and Ever Till.

    imo the issue isn't primarily the people, it's the racial grievance. (although it's true too that since becoming more HBD aware ... concerns about reversion to norm and stuff make me think of trying not to make dysgenic reproductive choices)

    Replies: @Michelle

    Here in the Bay Area, that is not much of an issue. If you have a fear of that happening, but prefer a bit of coffee with your cream, move here. I know many half Black people and they love their white parents.

  178. @Anonymous
    @njguy73

    Jagger might not be done. For some women, getting knocked up by Mick Jagger is probably a good career move and a good reproductive strategy.

    Replies: @Michelle

    Absolutely! Same for Clint Eastwood. He still has the great genes.

  179. @Pericles
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Leonardo di Caprio should have impregnated a large number of young models by now, but how many kids does he actually have?

    Replies: @Michelle

    I never thought of that. Though, he has a lot of money to support kids, he has no talent nor good looks to pass on. I liked him in Once Upon a Time, but he is no great shakes in the acting dept. Tiger Woods, however, has talent and should have more kids. He should have had a few with Lindsey Vonn. Clint Eastwood is still good for a few more. He has looks and talent to spare.

  180. Babs says:

    I just can’t stand this. Blacks want so badly to mix with White Supremacists. My definition of RACISM: The desperation of non Whites to live around and off of White and if possible to mix with Whites. White people who oppose this are racist. There are dozens of quotes from Jews about how all the races will mix and there will be one brown race in the world. Except for the jew of course who will remain jewish.

    This will get lots of promotion.

    https://www.facebook.com/New-Native-Americans-115291023209856/

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