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From the New York Times news section on Saturday:

It’s More Than Just Tragic’: Ma’Khia Bryant and the Burden of Black Girlhood

The fatal shooting of a 16-year-old in Columbus, Ohio, highlights the different standards that young Black girls are held to.

By Alisha Haridasani Gupta
April 24, 2021, 2:30 p.m. ET

“Ma’Khia Bryant was a child.”
— Brittany Cooper, the author of “Eloquent Rage”

It happened in a matter of seconds.

On Tuesday, in Columbus, Ohio, a police officer fatally shot Ma’Khia Bryant, a 16-year-old Black girl.

Body-camera footage shows Officer Nicholas Reardon, who was responding to a 911 call, arriving at a chaotic scene, with several people engaged in a heated fight, outside Ms. Bryant’s foster home.

As the officer gets out of his vehicle, Ms. Bryant is seen lunging at a woman with what appears to be a knife in her hand. Then, seconds later, in the frenzy and chaos, she lunges at another woman.

“Hey! Hey!” Officer Reardon says as he pulls out his gun. “Get down! Get down!”

He fires four quick shots, killing Ms. Bryant in an instant.

The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation is conducting a third-party investigation. And some experts, after watching the footage, have pointed out that Ms. Bryant was armed and seemed to be acting erratically, deeming the use of deadly force justifiable.

But the timing of the shooting — on the same day that the former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murdering George Floyd last May — underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.

In other words, to all you bad people who watched the video multiple times and are amazed at Officer Nick “O’Time” Reardon’s white coolness in making the right decision amidst black violent chaos, well, that’s not part of The Narrative.

Ms. Bryant’s young age — so evident in her giggly TikTok videos, dancing and doing her hair like any teenage girl — also highlights the unique burden of Black girls: In media coverage, Ms. Bryant has consistently been referred to as a woman, and her behavior and her body size have been scrutinized to suggest that she presented a large, uncontainable threat to everyone at the scene.

Actually, I think it was her 8-inch knife that attracted the most comment.

“Ma’Khia Bryant was a child,” Brittany Cooper, author of “Eloquent Rage,” said on MSNBC on Thursday. “The way that she has been talked about — because she is a big girl — people see her as the aggressor. They don’t see her humanity. They have adultified her.”

Because of layers of gendered racism, adults tend to view Black girls as more threatening, more aggressive, more mature and less innocent than white girls of the same age,

Especially when they are trying to disembowel other girls with a big knife.

robbing Black girls of the freedom to be children

In particular, the freedom to be children slashing with giant knives at other children.

, according to a 2017 report by the Georgetown Law Center on Poverty and Inequality.

The report found that Black girls as young as 5 years old are held to adultlike standards and, in turn, receive harsher punishments for their behavior: Black girls are more likely to be suspended or arrested at school than their white peers

Surely, you knew many Beckys and Karens at your suburban white bread school who lashed out with blades at the other girls? But how many white girls got in trouble each year for attempted murder?

often for minor infractions, like using their cellphones or throwing tantrums. In another report by the same researchers, one girl recalled that in elementary school, during a game at recess, she had thrown a ball and it had hit another girl in the face. She was then accused of assault and battery. Others shared that if they spoke up in class, they were labeled sassy or outspoken, while their white peers were seen as intelligent.

Though Black boys also face the same adultification bias, the experience of Black girls has been and still is largely overlooked.

To unpack these issues, In Her Words caught up with Dr. Jamilia Blake, a co-author of the Georgetown Law Center on Poverty and Inequality report and a psychology professor at Texas A&M University, and Dr. Monique Morris, executive director of Grantmakers for Girls of Color and author of the book “Pushout: The Criminalization of Black Girls in School.”

Let’s take an example of a black girl going absolutely berserk with homicidal rage and make it into yet another example of how white people, who are the only people in the world who ever do anything, misperceive blacks as tending to be more violent than, say, Brahmins.

The conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

So imagine what it was really like.

Let’s start with adultification bias. What does it mean, and how does it manifest in schools or interactions with law enforcement?

Jamilia Blake: When Black girls are not seen as children, that’s adultification bias. They’re not seen as being innocent; they’re not seen as needing nurturing; they’re seen as more adultlike, and what it is, is dehumanization. Black girls are not afforded the same freedoms that are guaranteed in childhood, like exploration, the ability to make mistakes or the benefit of the doubt. How it looks in school is this general perception of Black girls’ behavior being very volitional and menacing, and even more so if they voice their concerns and raise awareness — everything that they do is kind of seen as problematic. They are constantly monitored, they receive more severe disciplinary actions, and they aren’t even able to be sad or cry. And I don’t think many educators, law professionals, mental health professionals and individuals who interact with children are even aware of it — I don’t think they know that the adultification bias may be driving the punitiveness and the severity of their responses to Black girls.

Also, the occasional homicidal knife assaults.

Monique Morris: Adultification bias is also age compression. This is a way to erase the normal adolescent behavior and development that we have come to associate with young people, and it heightens our propensity to respond to young people as if they’re fully developed adults — referring to girls as women, not allowing them to make mistakes, even how we define their responses to conditions. So when there are things that negatively impact them and they speak up against it, we as adults associate this Black girl behavior with some of the same tropes and stereotypes that have plagued Black womanhood for centuries. Their way of responding and defending themselves is read to be combative, and their way of challenging structures of oppression are deemed to be aggressive. That leaves very little opportunity for us to really think about the prevalence of trauma in their lives.

Right, and the very harmful “angry Black woman” trope is always in the wings …

MM: Exactly. And sometimes people think about the emotions as mutually exclusive — like you can’t express anger and also be victimized by systems of oppression.

Clearly, what Ma’Khia needed was to express her emotions even more. Don’t just try to murder girls with a knife when an axe would let you express your feelings more fully.

We have to really think about the host of environmental conditions as part of the tapestry shaping their life outcomes — to strip them of this context facilitates the adultification bias and, in many ways, reduces the institutional capacity to be responsive.

JB: Right, exactly. The ability to express a range of emotions, whether that’s in response to oppressive conditions or not, is a function of being human. So what is happening to Black girls and children is that we’re robbing them of the essential aspects of what it means to be a human being.

What were your thoughts when you watched the body-camera footage?

JB: For me as a mother — I have a 16-year-old — whenever videos of these incidents come out, I wait a significant amount of time to watch it because I don’t want to see the loss of life of another young Black person for something senseless. It really tears away at your soul. At any given time, that could have been me; that could have been my daughter, my niece or any of the girls that I work with. So when I did see the video, I saw someone who just reacted and didn’t take a lay of the land in terms of what was happening, didn’t ask questions, didn’t try to interrupt the fight.

She’s talking about Officer Reardon.

MM: You’re not alone — I took my time to watch it, too, and originally I was not going to watch the video. We have seen so many cases, and it’s retraumatizing to watch this footage over and over. I also have a teenage daughter, a 17-year-old, who has had a pretty strong reaction to the way the media has covered this shooting — showing, for example, snippets and clips from the footage without issuing trigger warnings. This routine display of violence, in this way, also contributes to that dehumanization and adultification of our young people as they have to absorb all of this and also function as if everything is normal.

All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.

I’ve done that, many times. Who hasn’t disarmed a homicidal girl with a melee weapon?

 
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  1. Which is the funnier quote?

    “And some experts, after watching the footage, have pointed out that Ms. Bryant was armed and seemed to be acting erratically”

    or

    “All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.”

  2. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:

    Officer Nick “O’Time” Reardon’s white coolness in making the right decision amidst black violent chaos

    Nicely put, Steve.

    • Agree: NickG, Realist
    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Anonymous

    In Officer Reardon's "white coolness in making the right decision," he was channeling Alvin C. York and Audie Murphy.

    , @RonaldB
    @Anonymous

    It's obvious that all the fuzzy rationalizations are a means of trying to find some charge that will stick on officer Reardon. They want to charge him with murder but the optics are too blatant that the shooting was justified. So, they'll toss meaningful but pithy-sounding generalizations around for a few weeks, or until the next shooting of a black man resisting arrest. Now, imagine if he had shot a black girl attacking a white girl instead of a black girl attacking a black girl. The riots would begin immediately, and there would be no worry that the story would gain traction. Hannity, in covering the incident, took special care to emphasize with every sentence "He saved a black girl." Heaven forbid someone saves a white girl.

  3. “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Paleo Retiree

    The reporter on that story, Alisha Haridasani Gupta, is billed as a “gender reporter.”

    In these times, especially, I expect that that’s a prestigious job description in the environs such as the New York Times, with fierce competition for the slot from graduates of the various gender studies programs at our elite universities (the NYT is a very Yale-Harvard kind of place.)

    Ms. Gupta’s credentials, going by her listed background online, don’t quite fit that mold—a Hong Konger of Indian descent, she has a degree from the decent, but hardly elite City University in London and a Masters in International Affairs with a focus on war and conflict.

    As with fields such as engineering, contract computer programming, convenience stores in small-town America and so on previously, South Asians are pretty good at spotting the next trending prestige career opportunity for themselves.

    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking. Add pot-stirring to the list of opportunities immigrants look forward to taking advantage of, when they envision themselves moving here.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk, @Rob McX

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paleo Retiree

    Here's my favorite paragraph:


    But the timing of the shooting — on the same day that the former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murdering George Floyd last May — underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.
     
    What?

    What does anything have to do with anything in that paragraph? Who is beating the drum, by the way? Where is the "police brutality" and "systemic racism." Those are narratives, buddy, not truths. This is an alternate universe where nothing has to make sense and the New York Times makes the truth. Ergo, Officer Reardon = Officer Chauvin = killer.

    Fuck this shit.

    And the readers eat it all up. To hell with them. And they are, you know, edumacated, mostly professional. Who else reads the God damned New York Times? And they believe this shit. They have to be the stupidest people in America. What a joke.

    Replies: @Abe, @ThreeCranes

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Paleo Retiree


    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?
     
    Someone who was promoted from the food section beat?


    Loads of Layers: Our 10 Best Savory Layered Recipes

    5 Mind-Blowing Layered Recipes


    https://img.buzzfeed.com/thumbnailer-prod-us-east-1/fb2da9f1eb574cf4bab1261eb741dd7d/final.jpg

    , @Anonymous
    @Paleo Retiree

    Actually, the entire Economist-whipped western political and elite governing class.

    - That's who.

    , @Ian Smith
    @Paleo Retiree

    Ambitious, brown nosing Brahmins.

    Replies: @gent

    , @ic1000
    @Paleo Retiree

    > “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Readers should jump ahead six of Steve's insomniac-on-a-roll posts to Who Is the Headkicker in the Stabby Columbus Brouhaha?

    It turns out that investigative journalism is alive and well, even if it's a job that the NYT's Brahmin import gendered-racism reporter won't do. Instead, Sailer helpfully points to a blog post by "Turtleboy", who delved into social media and (of course) local court records to provide the context for Knife Girl's Fifteen Minutes (15 seconds?) of Fame.

    Context that -- somehow! -- Lester Holt and the rest of the Prestige Media have completely missed.

    , @Op
    @Paleo Retiree

    My sister-in-law.

  4. Ugh. Officer Reardon, please just shoot me now. I can’t stand this anymore.

    The New York Times is a criminal organization.

    • LOL: notsaying, sayless
  5. Every article by an Indian journalist should come with a ‘transparency statement’ disclosing the full extent to which they and their families have benefited from the caste system.

    Also, this: “All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.”

    Can someone please provide videos of this happening. In the Insta-TT era, there must be at least one, right?

    • Agree: Daniel H, Batman
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Change that Matters

    Here are a couple more black girls, whose stimulus checks didn't come in time.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9453065/USPS-worker-savagely-beaten-two-women-trying-stimulus-checks.html

    Did we miss this gem? I can't keep track.

    Postal routes & letter carriers should be segregated.

    , @bro3886
    @Change that Matters

    Every article by an Indian "journalist" should come with a statement that they came to America to live as parasites on white culture and the white population, they sure as hell didn't move to Ethiopia. And that they almost always burn with hatred against the native population common to racist colonialists.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @CCZ
    @Change that Matters

    Black "girls" fight, black "girl" wields knife (knife at :45 in video, but whole video is "enlightening"), no white police, (not even social workers), lots of black folks, and no one killed. See, the solution is so simple. Just leave them to themselves!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNQ8mtrlSI4

  6. One way to think about a “child” (probably the default way most people have thought about it historically) is someone who is not grown enough to be a threat in melee combat.

    • Agree: donut, AndrewR, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @thinklikea1l

    The "people" defending her used the same script with that weirdo in Columbia who got bullied by the roid raging drill sergeant. He was 21 with a mustache but people were like "STOP CALLING HIM A YOUNG MAN, HE'S A CHILD, STOP ADULTIFYING BLACK CHILDREN" lmao

  7. If he had tried to “de-escelate” the situation and the girl in pink was gutted, Reardon would be accused of not doing enough to protect black bodies.

    At this point the only winning move for a white cop is to not play the game.

    • Agree: NickG, Liza, Jack D, David In TN
  8. Facts be damned. Zombie wokesters never stop.

  9. we’ve moved past he dindu nuffin to knife fights aren’t a big deal.

    • Agree: ThreeCranes, Forbes
  10. anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    The CIA-media is going to beat up white America with black-guilt until white America gets with the invade-the-world program. Im not kidding. Do what we want our we will use race to beat you into submission. They are flexing their media muscle, letting you know they can gin up hysteria over anything at any time……..so get with the Ukraine, Iran, South China Sea, Vaccine program or you will be punished with riots.

    The idiot commentators are only spouting what executive producers and directors yell at them to say in meetings. Zucker at CNN has been recorded in meetings with the on-air talent doing just this………and who is above Zucker, telling him what to push that we dont get to see? Eho is hos handler? Sticks, carrots, and Skinner

  11. If it wasn’t a Black writing this they would be completely mocked and laughed at…truly, imagine a White person writing something like this and the ridicule they would receive — instead we’re suppose to treat this seriously, as something a moron didn’t write — for one reason only….

    • Replies: @anon
    @Getaclue

    If it wasn’t a Black writing this t

    Did you look at the author's name?

  12. NYT: We Are Not Going to Let Knife Girl Go

    Toldya.

    I wish it were otherwise, but it ain’t.

    Anti-whiteness is the whole of the law now. The rest is commentary.

    • Agree: ThreeCranes, Ben tillman
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Almost Missouri


    Anti-whiteness is the whole of the law now. The rest is commentary.
     
    Agree.

    The root of all the evil here is minoritarianism: Evil white flyover gentile oppressors must be crushed; immigrated and integrated and beaten and taxed and stolen from until they can't hurt us poor oppressed minorities no more. Same shit we've got for 50+ now.


    But there does seem to be a particular--turbo charging--element here, female emotionalism:

    JB: For me as a mother — I have a 16-year-old — whenever videos of these incidents come out, I wait a significant amount of time to watch it because I don’t want to see the loss of life of another young Black person for something senseless. It really tears away at your soul.
     
    Hey the contemporary world is pissing me off as well. And with much more reason--something really has been stolen from me. (Blacks keep getting more and more stuff ... just never enough.)

    But while the whole thing pisses me off, i do not have some sort of little soul tearing moment at:
    -- every phony hate crime,
    -- another Stalinist show trial verdict,
    -- the latest Hollyweird anti-white propaganda piece,
    -- another academia Maoist outrage
    -- the latest Bret Stephens'--or other media Jew's--piece pissing on white working and middle class people and gloating about their replacement
    -- more anti-white nonsense from Biden or Pelosi or Chucky Schumer
    ...

    Yeah, i hate these people with ever fiber of my being and badly, badly, badly want to get myself and my family out from under--and as far away--from them as i can; back to some sort of "America".

    But i'm not turning each incident into my own personal soul tearing drama.

    A lot of women just don't seem to be designed for hearing about "the world". Those intense emotional reactions are there for ... your stuff. What you actually see. Your family.
  13. OT?

    I, a white man, have spent most of my weekend arguing with my spouse, a white female, about whether our 15 yo white child should take a high status (for a kid) VERY part time job (10 or so hours a week).

    I think its a bad idea, my wife, who is I think a little star struck by the “status” of the job (which is localized to a discrete community) thinks its a big positive step forward for our kid.

    Regardless of the situation, my overall point is, these are the concerns white people have for their children vs other communities in the US.

    Anyway, I feel like we are

    “robbing [my white kid’s] of the freedom to be children”

    By making them getting a high status summer job at age 15. White man’s burden.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Paul Rise


    I, a white man, have spent most of my weekend arguing with my spouse, a white female, about whether our 15 yo white child should take a high status (for a kid) VERY part time job (10 or so hours a week).
     
    High status in whose eyes? Her peers? Future employers? College admissions? Why does this matter?

    I am having difficulty imagining any high status job that could be performed by a 15-year-old, much less one that is only 10 hours/week. Can you elaborate while preserving anonymity?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    , @AndrewR
    @Paul Rise

    Infantalizing your daughter isn't doing her any favors. What else would she be doing with that "freedom"? Using TikTok?

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Paul Rise

    10 hours a week during the summer isn't depriving anyone of anything, especially a 15 y/o, unless your family is so rich that it would impede on planned trips. She should be able to work 20 without breaking a sweat.

  14. It takes an incredible amount of shamelessness to create this sort of strawman version of what happened in Columbus, but NYTimes writers have done it once again. Reardon literally had no chance to talk Bryant out of attacking the girl in pink- it was literally shoot Bryant or allow Bryant to finish whatever it was she was doing with that knife in that instant. And, even worse- we all know what the narrative would have been had Reardon not acted and Bryant killed or severely injured the girl in pink- the narrative would have blamed Reardon for that, too.

    But, I guess according to the NYTimes, Reardon probably should have asked the bystanders the girl’s name, looked up her TikTok videos so that he would have known she was “young”. I saw and knew exactly what Reardon did when he pulled up on the scene- I would have put Bryant’s age between 14 and 30, but in the heat of the moment, I would not have even given a sh*t what her age was- the only facts that matter in that instant was the knife and the girl Bryant was about to stab. Talk about arm-chair quaterbacking on a Monday morning.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Yancey Ward

    Our rulers are absolutely demonic, which means that we will owe them nothing when we remove them from power

    , @Sick 'n Tired
    @Yancey Ward

    It is really no different than dealing with child soldiers in African countries, yes they are 10 years old, but they won't hesitate to mow you down with an AK-47, or hack you up with a machete if they are told to. And what is your only recourse in that moment, but to kill a child who's intent is ending your life. Quite a conundrum.

  15. Within the week, the girl in pink will give a news conference with Benjamin Crump in which she will say she wasn’t worried about getting stabbed, that she and Bryant were very good friends, and will probably say that she didn’t see a knife.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Yancey Ward


    It takes an incredible amount of shamelessness to create this sort of strawman version of what happened in Columbus, but NYTimes writers have done it once again.
     
    Give a zombie wokester an inch, and it will take a mile.
  16. @Paleo Retiree
    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Ian Smith, @ic1000, @Op

    The reporter on that story, Alisha Haridasani Gupta, is billed as a “gender reporter.”

    In these times, especially, I expect that that’s a prestigious job description in the environs such as the New York Times, with fierce competition for the slot from graduates of the various gender studies programs at our elite universities (the NYT is a very Yale-Harvard kind of place.)

    Ms. Gupta’s credentials, going by her listed background online, don’t quite fit that mold—a Hong Konger of Indian descent, she has a degree from the decent, but hardly elite City University in London and a Masters in International Affairs with a focus on war and conflict.

    As with fields such as engineering, contract computer programming, convenience stores in small-town America and so on previously, South Asians are pretty good at spotting the next trending prestige career opportunity for themselves.

    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking. Add pot-stirring to the list of opportunities immigrants look forward to taking advantage of, when they envision themselves moving here.

    • Thanks: Charon
    • Replies: @Peterike
    @PiltdownMan

    So black children are like little adults. And black adults are mostly like overgrown children. That’s what I got out of this discussion.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @PiltdownMan


    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking.
     
    Oh but they do have a "dog in the hunt." They are the dogs who are doing their part to weaken White Americans, thus making it easier for South Asians and others to take top levels in America, a country their people did not build.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR

    , @Rob McX
    @PiltdownMan


    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking.
     
    Mercenaries imported for the war against whites. If Reardon had let Knife-Girl kill her victim, Gupta would have a 1000-word article ready in a couple of days about how police will watch blacks being murdered while having full power to prevent it.
  17. @PiltdownMan
    @Paleo Retiree

    The reporter on that story, Alisha Haridasani Gupta, is billed as a “gender reporter.”

    In these times, especially, I expect that that’s a prestigious job description in the environs such as the New York Times, with fierce competition for the slot from graduates of the various gender studies programs at our elite universities (the NYT is a very Yale-Harvard kind of place.)

    Ms. Gupta’s credentials, going by her listed background online, don’t quite fit that mold—a Hong Konger of Indian descent, she has a degree from the decent, but hardly elite City University in London and a Masters in International Affairs with a focus on war and conflict.

    As with fields such as engineering, contract computer programming, convenience stores in small-town America and so on previously, South Asians are pretty good at spotting the next trending prestige career opportunity for themselves.

    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking. Add pot-stirring to the list of opportunities immigrants look forward to taking advantage of, when they envision themselves moving here.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk, @Rob McX

    So black children are like little adults. And black adults are mostly like overgrown children. That’s what I got out of this discussion.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @Peterike

    That's what I've distilled years of reading and commenting here down to. The other side of the "adultificatioin" coin is the "infantilization" of all minorities.

    Now that women and womanly men run our society and report our news, every minority person is to be regarded and treated as an infant in day care.

    There it is distilled down to one sentence.

    Straight White men are abhorrent because they don't bring the needed sensitivity and tenderness to bear upon the problems faced by these helpless infants. Instead they bring the Reality Principles of autonomy, objectivity, responsibility and competence i.e. "adultification" to the table. These are poisons to the fantasy world created and sustained by the women who run the daycare agency that our society has become.

    Gay men are okay both because they are fellow "victims" and because they are especially sensitive, non-judgmental and nurturing (supposedly). Gay men are non-threatening. (Most women have no clue as to the brutal nature of gay sex nor to the predatory behavior of gay men towards random men they encounter when on the prowl.)

    As in olden days, women's input should largely be restricted to educating children from the forth grade down. There are some exceptions and we should allow for this, but in the main, women have no interest in adopting a neutral, objective perspective. They should be tested and if they show no capacity for such thinking, then, fine, let them run the daycares and educate infants. Affirmative action is responsible for this mess. Standardized testing would quickly sort it out. Juries too should be selected by testing.

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

  18. “ the different standards that young Black girls are held to”

    I’m trying to remember: did I ever discuss stabbing or other knife use with my daughter? Is that supposed to be part of “The Talk”?

    “ the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.”

    I thought that was just the car next to me at the light; I couldn’t believe the bass.

    “ adults tend to view Black girls as more threatening, more aggressive, more mature and less innocent than white girls”

    Is that why big corporations hire all the black females they can find?

    “ they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.”

    Besides, can’t you just shoot them in the leg or something? Black cops in the movies can do it.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Anon7

    Blacks in the movies are just amazing!

    That's what I want to be when I grow up.

  19. @Paleo Retiree
    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Ian Smith, @ic1000, @Op

    Here’s my favorite paragraph:

    But the timing of the shooting — on the same day that the former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murdering George Floyd last May — underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.

    What?

    What does anything have to do with anything in that paragraph? Who is beating the drum, by the way? Where is the “police brutality” and “systemic racism.” Those are narratives, buddy, not truths. This is an alternate universe where nothing has to make sense and the New York Times makes the truth. Ergo, Officer Reardon = Officer Chauvin = killer.

    Fuck this shit.

    And the readers eat it all up. To hell with them. And they are, you know, edumacated, mostly professional. Who else reads the God damned New York Times? And they believe this shit. They have to be the stupidest people in America. What a joke.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Here’s my favorite paragraph:

    But the timing of the shooting — on the same day that the former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murdering George Floyd last May — underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.
     
    What?

    What does anything have to do with anything in that paragraph?
     

    Was it also Slicey McBoxcutterFace’s half-birthday as well?

    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4f349aa3-3149-439e-a2cd-43158b791581

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Disagree.

    They are not just "the stupidest people in America" They are the stupidest people on Earth.

  20. “All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.”

    Officer Reardon yelled “Hey Hey.” Too generic. And without the F word, an utterance might not even get heard. So what’s the secret sauce? …and its gotta work real fast. Hey Hey seems wrong. Might as well be Latin. Suggestions for a Reardon who only has seconds:

    1. LeBron! LeBron! LeBron say dropit, and you F… duh Cop-it!
    2. Drop-da-knife cash is in my car! New F..ing City program – drop-knife cash!

    But seriously…what’s the fast secret sauce that’s better than Hey Hey? What would a black cop say?
    Would simply having been a black officer suffice?.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @SafeNow

    Perhaps "Hey ,Hey , this is library"?

    Replies: @Charon

  21. Black girls are more likely to be suspended or arrested at school for often for minor infractions, like using their cellphones or throwing tantrums.

    Sounds like the school equivalent of broken windows policing, which dramatically reduced crime.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  22. It’s disorienting to live in a culture that’s so prosperous, the elite have the mental energy (such as it is) and leisure to indulge in these increasingly bizarre, often delusional causes. Talk about privilege.

    It goes without saying that our competitors welcome and exploit the current madness. We make it so easy for them. Our universities educate and employ them; our corporations employ them. The most difficult task our rivals have these days is not determining what our weaknesses are, but rather how to most effectively exploit them.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Kibernetika


    It’s disorienting to live in a culture that’s so prosperous, the elite have the mental energy (such as it is) and leisure to indulge in these increasingly bizarre, often delusional causes. Talk about privilege.

     

    When I first read this, I read it this way:

    It’s disorienting to live in a culture that’s so prepostererous, the elite have the mental energy (such as it is) and leisure to indulge in these increasingly bizarre, often delusional causes. Talk about privilege.
     
  23. “Ma’Khia Bryant was a child.”
    — Brittany Cooper, the author of “Eloquent Rage”

    Anyone notice the size of MaKilla?

    She wasn’t just fat. She was BIG.

    She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem.

    I think the NYT should update their shitty style book by, as a rule, opting to refrain from referring to anyone as a “child” past puberty.

    In MaKilla’s case, “teen hulk” would be an accurate descriptive.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Zoos

    I thought "water buffalo" myself .

    , @CCZ
    @Zoos


    "She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem."
     
    Maybe, or maybe not; Ms. Cooper does carry a lot of padding:

    https://twitter.com/BlackWomenOWN/status/1173695998989721601

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Harry Baldwin

    , @AndrewR
    @Zoos

    To the extent most black people (including Cooper) are mentally children, she's not wrong. There's a reason that, until like 60 years ago, no one really believed that blacks and whites could ever live as equals.

    Replies: @CCZ

  24. @PiltdownMan
    @Paleo Retiree

    The reporter on that story, Alisha Haridasani Gupta, is billed as a “gender reporter.”

    In these times, especially, I expect that that’s a prestigious job description in the environs such as the New York Times, with fierce competition for the slot from graduates of the various gender studies programs at our elite universities (the NYT is a very Yale-Harvard kind of place.)

    Ms. Gupta’s credentials, going by her listed background online, don’t quite fit that mold—a Hong Konger of Indian descent, she has a degree from the decent, but hardly elite City University in London and a Masters in International Affairs with a focus on war and conflict.

    As with fields such as engineering, contract computer programming, convenience stores in small-town America and so on previously, South Asians are pretty good at spotting the next trending prestige career opportunity for themselves.

    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking. Add pot-stirring to the list of opportunities immigrants look forward to taking advantage of, when they envision themselves moving here.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk, @Rob McX

    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking.

    Oh but they do have a “dog in the hunt.” They are the dogs who are doing their part to weaken White Americans, thus making it easier for South Asians and others to take top levels in America, a country their people did not build.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Oh but they do have a “dog in the hunt.” They are the dogs who are doing their part to weaken White Americans, thus making it easier for South Asians and others to take top levels in America, a country their people did not build.
     
    • Agree: Anonymous
    , @AndrewR
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I've heard it suggested that South Asians, being so similar to Jews in all the worst ways, are being set up as a scapegoat for Jews to use when SHTF and Americans are looking for someone to blame. In the long term, it's probably not in Indians' best interests to alienate the white man.

  25. In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jackbnimbl

    True, but it’s mostly their small children. Call it delayed abortion and black women’s homicide rates fall.
    Why mostly small children? Because the little ones are smaller and more fragile.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Anonymous
    @Jackbnimbl


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable .
     
    Citation needed. Implausible.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Jackbnimbl, @res

    , @Ed Case
    @Jackbnimbl

    I read that the average African/American woman has higher Testosterone levels than the average white North American man
    Even allowing for younger black women not wearing excess clothing, that's still freaky.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jackbnimbl

    Who do they kill?

    , @res
    @Jackbnimbl


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years
     
    The data are not presented in a way which makes this comparison easy, but page 14 (Figures 22a-d) of this document
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
    has statistics by age/sex/race from 1980-2008 which seem to indicate this was true from about 1980 to the early 1990s.

    It is harder to find recent data like this though.

    One interesting point is that black women had the largest decrease in homicide offending rates between 1980 and 2008.

    Replies: @Firstdown 111, @Jackbnimbl

  26. It’s amazing how unclear people are to the meanings of ordinary words.

    And some experts, after watching the footage, have pointed out that Ms. Bryant was armed and seemed to be acting erratically

    She wasn’t acting ‘erratically’. She was quite single minded and purposive in her actions. She went with a knife at first at one woman (girl?); and when that was blunted, she turned and attempted to stab, in a very non-erratic fashion, pink woman (girl).

    Forget that the ‘gender reporter’ for The NY Times can’t possibly be expected to have a clear grasp of ordinary English, but don’t they have proof readers anymore?

  27. they’ll let knife girl go when the next video of a police shooting comes up, which should be in about 2 weeks.

    this is a new permanent media cycle in America, unless something is done to stop it. it is a highly effective way to attack the country, law enforcement, generate riots, and spread CRT concepts. they’ll never stop by themselves.

    • Agree: Abe, Ben tillman
  28. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:

    I am starting to think there is more to this media psyop than meets the eye. Yes, they want White people to deporioritize themselves, that’s obvious and even admitted. They want blacks to target Whites as victims- also seems obvious. But I wonder if all this murder porn of black people reaching supersaturation on the flickering screens is to get black people to actually mourn the death of other black people.

    Just trying to figure out the ruling block’s motives. I mean, black dysfunction is an obvious problem, especially the high murder rates. Yes, I think the masters like the ability to turn Cat 5 Chimpouts on and off like a spigot. But in the long run, something will have to be done about the chaos and the killing.

    Think of it like the 70 years of Holocaust saturation. Decade after decade of melodrama on screen, stage and print said, “This is very important to your life.” Americans who didn’t cry at their own parents’ funerals start blubbering at mention of Schindler’s List. That is the power of media.

    From a psychological perspective, it makes sense to only use black deaths caused by White people (a tiny minority of black cause of death.) Getting all weepy over black on black crime just causes a potential black criminal to have his defenses up. But the blood libel against Whites might have equal proposed benefit for the blacks who actually begin to mourn a fellow black stranger, and thus prevent a future murder?

    I highly doubt it will work. But never underestimate the hubris of our rulers.

  29. This is a way to erase the normal adolescent behavior and development that we have come to associate with young people

    If this is normal adolescent behavior, wouldn’t any civilized society seek to erase it? Unless the young person is Wolfgang Puck, but then confine him to the kitchen, and his targets to game birds.

    …for minor infractions, like using their cellphones or throwing tantrums.

    Or using tantrums and throwing their cellphones. At others.

    Let’s start with adultification bias.

    Adultification bias = Discount a fiat alibi.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Runnin' Reg, since you've had to White Flight so many times to stay segregated, I was wondering if you pack light as a matter of practice?

    https://www.breizh-info.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/white-flight.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  30. Anon[222] • Disclaimer says:

    According to a 2017 report by the Georgetown Law Center on Poverty and Inequality.

    The report found that Black girls as young as 5 years old are held to adultlike standards and, in turn, receive harsher punishments for their behavior: Black girls are more likely to be suspended or arrested at school than their white peers

    Here’s the report:

    https://www.law.georgetown.edu/poverty-inequality-center/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2017/08/girlhood-interrupted.pdf

    https://www.law.georgetown.edu/news/black-girls-viewed-as-less-innocent-than-white-girls-georgetown-law-research-finds-2/

    Here are some findings from the report:

    “This new evidence of what we call the ‘adultification’ of black girls may help explain why black girls in America are disciplined much more often and more severely than white girls – across our schools and in our juvenile justice system,” said Epstein.

    The new report reveals that adults think:

    – Black girls seem older than white girls of the same age.
    – Black girls need less nurturing than white girls.
    – Black girls need less protection than white girls.
    – Black girls need to be supported less than white girls.
    – Black girls need to be comforted less than white girls.
    – Black girls are more independent than white girls.
    – Black girls know more about adult topics than white girls.
    – Black girls know more about sex than white girls.

    [MORE]

    Numbers 2 through 5 are restatements of the same thing, and are fuzzy qualitative opinions, so let’s skip those.

    Numbers 1 and 6 simply express the fact that blacks mature faster than whites or Asians, including but not limited to physical size. This is not controversial among researchers. These findings are based on measuring stuff scientifically.

    Numbers 7 and 8 seem to be about black girls maturing faster specifically in the area of sex, which again is not controversial. Menarche is 9 to 12 months earlier than white girls (up to two years earlier than Asian girls), first sexual experience a year earlier, and first pregnancy a year earlier. This is true in the U.S., in the Carribean, in black-governed countries in Africa as well as Haiti, and in urban and rural settings. It’s a well-established finding.

    Anyway, the whole reason that this topic of “black girls are unfairly felt to be adultish” is a thing these days is that it’s considered an effective new tactic to use against the problem that black girl students are disciplined more, suspended more, referred to the police more, charged more frequently with a crime, less likely to have their criminal charges dismissed or pled down, and so on.

    All this is because everyone sees black girls as adults. It has nothing to do with their behavior. The only explanation to differential treatment is that the racist whitey hegemonic patriarchy of white supremacy is out to destroy our beautiful, knife-wielding, TikTokCute black girly-girls.

    • Replies: @cityview
    @Anon

    Lists like this one aren't brand new; they have been around for a while. I agree to some extent with the reasoning here, but I think it is class-based rather than race-based, for the most part. I think all girls from lower-income families tend to be treated as more adultlike, less in need of comforting, etc. This callous treatment is often coming from other family members.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Forbes
    @Anon

    In other words, adults are treating/responding to black girls based on conduct, behavior, appearance (seem older), not based on precise chronological age.

    What adults think is not the relevant category. It would be an unusual school or school district that didn't know the age and grade of the student when discipline was imposed.


    may help explain why black girls in America are disciplined much more often and more severely than white girls
     
    Why? School discipline would be based on conduct and behavior. More often? Frequency of conduct and behavior would be the first clue.
  31. @Paleo Retiree
    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Ian Smith, @ic1000, @Op

    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Someone who was promoted from the food section beat?

    Loads of Layers: Our 10 Best Savory Layered Recipes

    5 Mind-Blowing Layered Recipes

  32. I saw someone who just reacted and didn’t take a lay of the land in terms of what was happening, didn’t ask questions, didn’t try to interrupt the fight

    This whole situation reminds me of Dirty Harry (2:11) and The Naked Gun

    • LOL: Aeronerauk
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @ScarletNumber

    In today's Clown-World World, it's hard to imagine that the answer to the question "Who should we get to play the mayor of San Francisco?" would be: John Vernon.

    If I lived in San Francisco, and John Vernon was on the ballot..............I'd vote for him. Frisco could do a lot worse. And has.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon

    , @william munny
    @ScarletNumber

    I didn't realize for years that the Mayor in the Naked Gun later became Tony Soprano's mom.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  33. I propose that we let knife girl go. Clif High has moved to bitchute and his latest videos are great theater. He thinks the covid operation is a depopulation operation. Like Prince Philip who wanted to be reincarnated as a deadly plague virus. A lot of those weirdos really believe in reincarnation. Like Pythagoras and Hyperborean Apollo.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Morton's toes


    Clif High has moved to bitchute and his latest videos are great theater. He thinks the covid operation is a depopulation operation.
     
    Sigh. Some people are just so insensate.

    If the powers that be wanted depopulation, they wouldn’t pushing immigration at all costs, printing up trillions of dollars in “stimulus,” and enforcing a censorship ban on the World’s Most Important Graph.

  34. Makia could have grown up, and had 8 kids, and maybe 50 grandkids. Possibly as many as 20 of those grandkids could have become law-abiding citizens. Maybe a couple of them would have contributed to society in some meaningful way. We should mourn the loss of those kids.

    Maybe the pink girl will have extra babies to make up for Makia.

  35. Anybody know at what BMI the 21-foot Rule no longer applies?

    • LOL: James Speaks
  36. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paleo Retiree

    Here's my favorite paragraph:


    But the timing of the shooting — on the same day that the former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murdering George Floyd last May — underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.
     
    What?

    What does anything have to do with anything in that paragraph? Who is beating the drum, by the way? Where is the "police brutality" and "systemic racism." Those are narratives, buddy, not truths. This is an alternate universe where nothing has to make sense and the New York Times makes the truth. Ergo, Officer Reardon = Officer Chauvin = killer.

    Fuck this shit.

    And the readers eat it all up. To hell with them. And they are, you know, edumacated, mostly professional. Who else reads the God damned New York Times? And they believe this shit. They have to be the stupidest people in America. What a joke.

    Replies: @Abe, @ThreeCranes

    Here’s my favorite paragraph:

    But the timing of the shooting — on the same day that the former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murdering George Floyd last May — underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.

    What?

    What does anything have to do with anything in that paragraph?

    Was it also Slicey McBoxcutterFace’s half-birthday as well?

    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4f349aa3-3149-439e-a2cd-43158b791581

  37. @Jackbnimbl
    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Ed Case, @Paperback Writer, @res

    True, but it’s mostly their small children. Call it delayed abortion and black women’s homicide rates fall.
    Why mostly small children? Because the little ones are smaller and more fragile.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Alden

    And it's not always just their own children.

    https://vdare.com/articles/michelle-malkin-the-matter-of-tori-rose-smith-s-life

  38. I have a bone to pick: You keep referring to “a big knife,” or “an eight-inch knife,” or “a homicidal knife;” whereas The New York Times Style Manual clearly indicates that the correct expression should be, “what appeared to be a big knife,” or “what appeared to be homicidal knife,” etc.

    In fact, your account would have been much clearer had you written something like “911 received a call about what appeared to be a girl brandishing what appeared to be knife in what appeared to be an attack against what appeared to be another girl pinned against what appeared to be a car.”

    On an unrelated note, Ms. Gupta writes, “The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation is conducting a third-party investigation.” For the purposes of brevity, no doubt, she appears to have omitted the fact that in Ohio this is standard procedure in all police-related shootings.

    The New York Times appears to have outdone itself.

    • Thanks: Rob
    • LOL: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @black sea



    “A not unblack dog was chasing a not unsmall rabbit across a not ungreen field.”


     
    George Orwell, of course, in his truly far-seeing essay Politics and the English Language.

    https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit

    Replies: @duncsbaby

  39. @black sea
    I have a bone to pick: You keep referring to "a big knife," or "an eight-inch knife," or "a homicidal knife;" whereas The New York Times Style Manual clearly indicates that the correct expression should be, "what appeared to be a big knife," or "what appeared to be homicidal knife," etc.

    In fact, your account would have been much clearer had you written something like "911 received a call about what appeared to be a girl brandishing what appeared to be knife in what appeared to be an attack against what appeared to be another girl pinned against what appeared to be a car."

    On an unrelated note, Ms. Gupta writes, "The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation is conducting a third-party investigation." For the purposes of brevity, no doubt, she appears to have omitted the fact that in Ohio this is standard procedure in all police-related shootings.

    The New York Times appears to have outdone itself.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    “A not unblack dog was chasing a not unsmall rabbit across a not ungreen field.”

    George Orwell, of course, in his truly far-seeing essay Politics and the English Language.

    https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @PiltdownMan

    It too me awhile to upack that not unblack dog, it kept not unclawing and not ugrowling at me.

  40. Eight inches? Looked like less than six to me.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Ralph L

    Eight inches? Looked like less than six to me.

    Well, you know how it is. Some guys are always exaggerating.

    , @Ed Case
    @Ralph L

    They're being tricky.
    If newspapers are gunning for the stabber, they'll add the handle length to the blade length, so a 4 inch blade becomes a 9 inch knife.
    In this case, the blade appears to be 8 inches at least, so if the NYT was trying to hang Knife Girl, they'd be calling it a 13 inch knife.
    Just my opinion, no experience, a 2 or 3 inch blade on a normal size handle would be much easier to control and probably deadlier, if that was the user's intent.

    , @bro3886
    @Ralph L

    That's what she said!

  41. @Yancey Ward
    Within the week, the girl in pink will give a news conference with Benjamin Crump in which she will say she wasn't worried about getting stabbed, that she and Bryant were very good friends, and will probably say that she didn't see a knife.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    It takes an incredible amount of shamelessness to create this sort of strawman version of what happened in Columbus, but NYTimes writers have done it once again.

    Give a zombie wokester an inch, and it will take a mile.

  42. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paul Rise
    OT?

    I, a white man, have spent most of my weekend arguing with my spouse, a white female, about whether our 15 yo white child should take a high status (for a kid) VERY part time job (10 or so hours a week).

    I think its a bad idea, my wife, who is I think a little star struck by the "status" of the job (which is localized to a discrete community) thinks its a big positive step forward for our kid.

    Regardless of the situation, my overall point is, these are the concerns white people have for their children vs other communities in the US.

    Anyway, I feel like we are

    "robbing [my white kid's] of the freedom to be children"

    By making them getting a high status summer job at age 15. White man's burden.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber

    I, a white man, have spent most of my weekend arguing with my spouse, a white female, about whether our 15 yo white child should take a high status (for a kid) VERY part time job (10 or so hours a week).

    High status in whose eyes? Her peers? Future employers? College admissions? Why does this matter?

    I am having difficulty imagining any high status job that could be performed by a 15-year-old, much less one that is only 10 hours/week. Can you elaborate while preserving anonymity?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    High end high-school age (or younger) models work only part time, and the most successful ones do have a lot of status in their particular social and professional milieu. But they are few and far between.

    https://i.imgur.com/gRsfDRv.jpg?1

    Replies: @Anonymous

  43. Anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jackbnimbl
    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Ed Case, @Paperback Writer, @res

    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable .

    Citation needed. Implausible.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Anonymous

    Not implausible at all. The statistics are hard to locate, but I too recall seeing them a few years ago. Men account for 7 times as many murders as women, and if you consider that blacks commit murder at a rate 7 or 8 times that of whites, it is certainly plausible that black women are committing at least as many murders per capita as are white men.

    , @Jackbnimbl
    @Anonymous

    I believe I saw it on one of audacious epigones articles. I’m sure it’s suppressed by google and I don’t have all day to look, but definetly out there somewhere

    , @res
    @Anonymous

    What makes it implausible? Your religious beliefs? Take a look at my comment above. It appears no longer to be true (though hard to verify since the Obama-era gutting of race based crime statistics), but the data I see indicates it was true from 1980 into the early 1990s.

  44. Anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    @PiltdownMan


    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking.
     
    Oh but they do have a "dog in the hunt." They are the dogs who are doing their part to weaken White Americans, thus making it easier for South Asians and others to take top levels in America, a country their people did not build.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR

    Oh but they do have a “dog in the hunt.” They are the dogs who are doing their part to weaken White Americans, thus making it easier for South Asians and others to take top levels in America, a country their people did not build.

    • Agree: Anonymous

  45. So, to avoid adultifying any black males who are not yet of legal age, they should always be addressed loudly and clearly as “Boy”. Good to know.

    • LOL: ThreeCranes
  46. @SafeNow
    “All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.”

    Officer Reardon yelled “Hey Hey.” Too generic. And without the F word, an utterance might not even get heard. So what’s the secret sauce? ...and its gotta work real fast. Hey Hey seems wrong. Might as well be Latin. Suggestions for a Reardon who only has seconds:

    1. LeBron! LeBron! LeBron say dropit, and you F... duh Cop-it!
    2. Drop-da-knife cash is in my car! New F..ing City program - drop-knife cash!

    But seriously...what’s the fast secret sauce that’s better than Hey Hey? What would a black cop say?
    Would simply having been a black officer suffice?.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Perhaps “Hey ,Hey , this is library”?

    • LOL: ThreeCranes
    • Replies: @Charon
    @kaganovitch

    Definitely fighting words...

  47. Steve, your description of KKKrazy Glue as the binding agent of the Democratic / Elite coalition was insightful, but you did not grasp the full implications.

    1. It can’t be turned off. Ever. First, the coalition hate hate hates each other: Jews, Blacks, Asians, Indians, AWFLs (box wine aunts) etc. The only thing holding that up is hate of White men and Whites in general and it requires ever more KKKrazy Glue to keep them together. Second, the hate is a drug, a hit, and the need for ever more of it particularly in blacks, White women, and Indians is apparent. [Interestingly the decision of the Obama Media to label Zimmerman “White Hispanic” seems to have convinced Latinos they are the other White meat on the menu]. Third, the elite running the nation really hate White people and ordinary White men with a passion, this is not “the Joooosssss! what was the question” but the organic hate for creating and maintaining modern industrial society which the new hereditary elite despise due to the constant churn of elites and families that threaten their dynastic interests. Of what use a Kennedy, a Walton, a Gates if modern industrial society erodes the bootlegging fortune, makes Wal-Mart bankrupt, and Microsoft obsolete? White men are agents of change and from Buchenwald Greta to Bill the Gates himself they want to stop the world and get off. Their dynastic ambitions depend upon it. No accident that Game of Thrones and Harry Potter are their touchstones.

    2. A declining economy propped up with financial tricks: running the money printer go brrr, “financial repression” (zero interest rates for savers, forcing money into speculative stocks) means competition for status, positions, and possessions makes well, a Rwandan solution to the White problem inevitable. The author of this hit piece on White men and the black women quoted will only do better if they basically kill all the White people and take their stuff and positions. This is basically their only way to better themselves and they’v figured it out.

    3. Media influences them into thinking that every White person is a secret Nazi and that they will be easy to kill. Contempt for White people permeates particularly black thinking, but also that of Asians and Indians. This is particularly true of the urbanized professional class who have no idea of the scope of American geography, the hobbies and habits and beloved movies and TV shows of White people who have been quietly and instinctively “prepping” for what they only unconsciously understand will be an attempt to kill them all. Lately, the unconscious knowledge has become overt, as crimestop has failed and the euphemisms of zombies etc. has been overt statement of facts. While White men seem to view Walter White, Tony Soprano, and Tyler Durden as heroes to emulate, non Whites figure that all White dudes are easily conquered villains like those who get their butt kicked by those waify butt kicking babes. They seem to think Wakanda is real.

    I think we are not years, but likely maybe only six months from full on Rwandan style violence egged on by the media and authorized by the government largely in response to another lockdown attempt. Which we all know is coming.

    Fox News is reporting the Gov. Newsom of California wanted F 15Cs buzzing and possibly using other measures against crowds in Huntington Beach protesting against him. The orders were given in texts and phone calls to leave no written trace. Already the Democratic Legislature has voted to make the names and addresses of people signing the recall petition public and various groups including BLM have vowed to attack said signers in every way: get their employers to fire them, show up at their home and attack them, etc.

  48. Black girls are more likely to be suspended or arrested at school than their white peers .. often for minor infractions, like using their cellphones

    I just did a search and found out that such anti-free speech regulations are not unusual. California even has a law that allows districts to enforce such policies (“except during emergencies”).

    It’s really something how kids get drafted into horrible, often physically dangerous public schools, and then are ordered to shut up when they’re inside. The districts don’t want the kids recording what goes on in their miserable classrooms (and then uploading the embarrassing video into the public domain); teachers should be required to wear body cams, anyhow.

    [MORE]

    When police get called to a school and end up arresting one of its students, the cause rarely involves (common, physical) bullying or even a (not so uncommon) loaded gun in a backpack. It happens when a kid KOs a teacher, or when a six year old boy uses his thumb and index finger to symbolize pointing a gun, i.e. terrorism.

    • Replies: @unit472
    @Abolish_public_education

    School buses are required to have video cams on them so, on occasion we get to see fights and bullying taking place. Why what goes on in public schools is hidden is something of a mystery. You'd think parents would want to see the evidence if their child is suspended or claims to been assaulted or bullied. Obviously school administrators would prefer to not have the public see how horribly run these institutions are but it would be real eye opener if people could see what they are getting for their tax dollars.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

  49. There seems to have been remarkably little coverage of the guy who joined Knife Girl in chasing her first target, and who kicked that girl’s head as if he was making a good try at killing her. Who is he, and what did he have to do with it? What, indeed, was the whole scene about? Why isn’t the New York Times explaining that instead of publishing nonsense?

    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Joe S.Walker

    All I've been able to make out is that it was the foster mother's birthday so two of her ex-foster children came by to wish her happy birthday (they may have been Pink Girl and the Girl Who Got Knocked Down, but I don't know that for sure). One of the visitors made a mean comment about how messy Ma'Khia was keeping her room and told her to do a better job because their old foster mother didn't deserve to have a messy house. Or something like that.

    How that got to the 15 seconds that Officer Reardon witnessed, I don't know. Nor do I know who Mr. Headkicker is.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    , @Firstdown 111
    @Joe S.Walker

    I noticed that too, very strange. Who was that guy? He was part of it, with knife girl.

    , @Dutch Fagan
    @Joe S.Walker

    The kicker is the dead girl’s father. She had called him because of the arguement with the two other girls. The two girls were former foster children who came by to celebrate the foster mother’s birthday.

  50. In media coverage, Ms. Bryant has consistently been referred to as a woman,

    Is this really true? I have not seen her referred to as ‘a woman’.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @kaganovitch


    I have not seen her referred to as ‘a woman’.
     
    Because she’s more cetacean than woman.

    Officer Nick tore Baby Beluga a new blow hole.
    , @cityview
    @kaganovitch

    I thought at the beginning of the coverage, she was referred to as a young woman over and over again. In doing this, the reporters, etc., were diligently conforming to the usage that I remember a huge uproar being made over more than forty years ago. Between about 1975-1980, there was an enormous effort made to use terms like anchorwoman, policewoman, spokeswoman, councilwoman, women's room, women's college. And after that, or maybe a few years later, I remember it being settled in the professional classes. So it is very ironic for me to see now "how dare you call her a young woman--she is a child!" That was the opposite of what was preferred by so many for years.

    (My own preference was then and is now for gender-neutral terms like spokesperson, councilperson, etc. But that wasn't really what caught on.)

  51. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Morton's toes
    I propose that we let knife girl go. Clif High has moved to bitchute and his latest videos are great theater. He thinks the covid operation is a depopulation operation. Like Prince Philip who wanted to be reincarnated as a deadly plague virus. A lot of those weirdos really believe in reincarnation. Like Pythagoras and Hyperborean Apollo.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Clif High has moved to bitchute and his latest videos are great theater. He thinks the covid operation is a depopulation operation.

    Sigh. Some people are just so insensate.

    If the powers that be wanted depopulation, they wouldn’t pushing immigration at all costs, printing up trillions of dollars in “stimulus,” and enforcing a censorship ban on the World’s Most Important Graph.

    • Agree: El Dato
  52. One hopes that Ma’Khia’s funeral will reflect our nation’s profound sense of loss to a grieving world, and that President Biden will deliver a 90-minute eulogy before lighting an eternal flame.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Buck Ransom

    Unless light to medium groundfire breaks out.

  53. @Zoos

    “Ma’Khia Bryant was a child.”
    — Brittany Cooper, the author of “Eloquent Rage”
     
    Anyone notice the size of MaKilla?

    She wasn’t just fat. She was BIG.

    She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem.

    I think the NYT should update their shitty style book by, as a rule, opting to refrain from referring to anyone as a "child" past puberty.

    In MaKilla's case, "teen hulk" would be an accurate descriptive.

    Replies: @donut, @CCZ, @AndrewR

    I thought “water buffalo” myself .

  54. @Joe S.Walker
    There seems to have been remarkably little coverage of the guy who joined Knife Girl in chasing her first target, and who kicked that girl's head as if he was making a good try at killing her. Who is he, and what did he have to do with it? What, indeed, was the whole scene about? Why isn't the New York Times explaining that instead of publishing nonsense?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Firstdown 111, @Dutch Fagan

    All I’ve been able to make out is that it was the foster mother’s birthday so two of her ex-foster children came by to wish her happy birthday (they may have been Pink Girl and the Girl Who Got Knocked Down, but I don’t know that for sure). One of the visitors made a mean comment about how messy Ma’Khia was keeping her room and told her to do a better job because their old foster mother didn’t deserve to have a messy house. Or something like that.

    How that got to the 15 seconds that Officer Reardon witnessed, I don’t know. Nor do I know who Mr. Headkicker is.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer

    Is there any way to determine (or guess) if Ma'Khia's foster parents were in it for the monthly state provided stipend money? These range from $500-$1100 depending on the official rates in the state the foster home is in, for children who are not deemed to be "special needs." For special needs kids, the rates are significantly higher.

    The amounts are modest, but some people do get into fostering in the hopes of being able to skim off excess from the state subsidy funds provided for the care of a particular foster child.

    The presence of so many similar age girls in one foster location makes me wonder.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker

  55. @Getaclue
    If it wasn't a Black writing this they would be completely mocked and laughed at...truly, imagine a White person writing something like this and the ridicule they would receive -- instead we're suppose to treat this seriously, as something a moron didn't write -- for one reason only....

    Replies: @anon

    If it wasn’t a Black writing this t

    Did you look at the author’s name?

  56. I grew up around a lot of blacks, and have seen a few fairly extreme examples of black girl-on-girl violence. One that I remember particularly vividly involved a couple of girls beating another one with a tree branch that was about as thick as a baseball bat.

    Most violent episodes revolved around sexual competition. Usually the pretty one got the worst of it. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was behind the big girl going after the girl in pink with a knife.

    It is indeed a major cultural difference. Nobody would have much sympathy for a big, hefty white girl physically assaulting a much prettier romantic rival. Especially not progressive, elite whites. Honestly, I don’t think black Africans would think too highly of it, either. It’s a very strange sexual inversion unique to American black culture.

    If white progressive women knew what was good for them, they wouldn’t encourage this. If it’s normalized, the skinny, progressive, yoga pants ladies shopping at Whole Foods are going to be in trouble. Most of us white guys aren’t going to step in on their behalf like Nick Reardon did.

    It’s kind of like the trans thing. White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don’t know what else to do. It’s sad.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bill P


    White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don’t know what else to do. It’s sad.
     
    It isn’t the women’s fault. They are born followers. It is up to men—White men—to lead. But White men have abdicated their role. They cower in fear or have sold out.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Anonymous

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Bill P

    I agree with your perceptive comment.

    After hours was fight time at my high school and a ring of black students forming an arena around a couple of black gorgongladiators was the highlight of their day. The spectators enjoyed themselves immensely.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Bill P


    I don’t think black Africans would think too highly of it, either. It’s a very strange sexual inversion unique to American black culture
     
    I don't think black Africans think too highly of African-Americans generally speaking

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKbN8_exfhU
  57. @Ralph L
    Eight inches? Looked like less than six to me.

    Replies: @anon, @Ed Case, @bro3886

    Eight inches? Looked like less than six to me.

    Well, you know how it is. Some guys are always exaggerating.

    • LOL: Muggles
  58. @PiltdownMan
    @black sea



    “A not unblack dog was chasing a not unsmall rabbit across a not ungreen field.”


     
    George Orwell, of course, in his truly far-seeing essay Politics and the English Language.

    https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    It too me awhile to upack that not unblack dog, it kept not unclawing and not ugrowling at me.

    • LOL: PiltdownMan
  59. …underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.

    Racial undertones, anyone?

  60. @Buck Ransom
    One hopes that Ma'Khia's funeral will reflect our nation's profound sense of loss to a grieving world, and that President Biden will deliver a 90-minute eulogy before lighting an eternal flame.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    Unless light to medium groundfire breaks out.

  61. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill P
    I grew up around a lot of blacks, and have seen a few fairly extreme examples of black girl-on-girl violence. One that I remember particularly vividly involved a couple of girls beating another one with a tree branch that was about as thick as a baseball bat.

    Most violent episodes revolved around sexual competition. Usually the pretty one got the worst of it. I wouldn't be surprised if this was behind the big girl going after the girl in pink with a knife.

    It is indeed a major cultural difference. Nobody would have much sympathy for a big, hefty white girl physically assaulting a much prettier romantic rival. Especially not progressive, elite whites. Honestly, I don't think black Africans would think too highly of it, either. It's a very strange sexual inversion unique to American black culture.

    If white progressive women knew what was good for them, they wouldn't encourage this. If it's normalized, the skinny, progressive, yoga pants ladies shopping at Whole Foods are going to be in trouble. Most of us white guys aren't going to step in on their behalf like Nick Reardon did.

    It's kind of like the trans thing. White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don't know what else to do. It's sad.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @ThreeCranes, @ScarletNumber

    White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don’t know what else to do. It’s sad.

    It isn’t the women’s fault. They are born followers. It is up to men—White men—to lead. But White men have abdicated their role. They cower in fear or have sold out.

    • Replies: @Bill P
    @Anonymous

    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you'll end up in jail.

    It works if you can pay her off, but that doesn't kick in until you're at the top 5% income level. Otherwise, women have to be either exceptionally wise and sensible during their reproductive years (lol), or they have to be brought up to that role. Both together are as rare as young men who are top 5% earners, and most probably go to those men anyway (assortative mating).

    Where does that leave the rest of us?

    We don't really live in a civilized society anymore. Our relationships with the opposite sex resemble those of the barbaric Vikings and Iroquois more than they do Victorian Anglos. Might as well accept that fact and deal with it instead of giving men bad advice like "she just wants you to be a leader." I'm friends with a number of married women and I never hear them say that -- not even the ones who go to church.

    Not to say they're bad women, but the idea is just absurd to them. And why shouldn't it be?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ThreeCranes

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    But, surely, isn't that *EXACTLY* what the 100+ year elitist push toward 'sex equality' was/is all about?

  62. @Steve Sailer
    @Joe S.Walker

    All I've been able to make out is that it was the foster mother's birthday so two of her ex-foster children came by to wish her happy birthday (they may have been Pink Girl and the Girl Who Got Knocked Down, but I don't know that for sure). One of the visitors made a mean comment about how messy Ma'Khia was keeping her room and told her to do a better job because their old foster mother didn't deserve to have a messy house. Or something like that.

    How that got to the 15 seconds that Officer Reardon witnessed, I don't know. Nor do I know who Mr. Headkicker is.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Is there any way to determine (or guess) if Ma’Khia’s foster parents were in it for the monthly state provided stipend money? These range from $500-$1100 depending on the official rates in the state the foster home is in, for children who are not deemed to be “special needs.” For special needs kids, the rates are significantly higher.

    The amounts are modest, but some people do get into fostering in the hopes of being able to skim off excess from the state subsidy funds provided for the care of a particular foster child.

    The presence of so many similar age girls in one foster location makes me wonder.

    • Replies: @Joe S.Walker
    @PiltdownMan

    If they were, it looks as if they were earning it.

  63. Gloria Steinem infamously granted Bill Clinton the “one free grope rule” on the pages of the NYT.

    Therefore it’s totally appropriate for a “one free stab rule” to be bestowed on all black teenaged girls by the same Grey Whore.

  64. As the officer gets out of his vehicle, Ms. Bryant is seen lunging at a woman with what appears to be a knife in her hand.

    It appeared to be a knife because it was………..you know………….a knife.

    To unpack these issues, In Her Words caught up with Dr. Jamilia Blake,…..

    People who “unpack” issues should pack them back up and get lost.

  65. Anonymous[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch
    In media coverage, Ms. Bryant has consistently been referred to as a woman,

    Is this really true? I have not seen her referred to as 'a woman'.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @cityview

    I have not seen her referred to as ‘a woman’.

    Because she’s more cetacean than woman.

    Officer Nick tore Baby Beluga a new blow hole.

  66. @Anonymous
    @Jackbnimbl


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable .
     
    Citation needed. Implausible.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Jackbnimbl, @res

    Not implausible at all. The statistics are hard to locate, but I too recall seeing them a few years ago. Men account for 7 times as many murders as women, and if you consider that blacks commit murder at a rate 7 or 8 times that of whites, it is certainly plausible that black women are committing at least as many murders per capita as are white men.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  67. They have adultified her

    Let’s start with adultification bias.

    OK, let’s. “Adultify” and “adultification” [the latter almost always followed by “bias”] appear 8x in the excerpts that Mr. Sailer quotes; 10x in the original article. Almost as bad as reading one of those “misdisinformation” rants. Language frames the narrative — when they try that hard to beat you over the head with a particular neologism, it must have an important narrative purpose.

    Looks like this is the main point: “It’s not necessarily either/or on the adultification bias or racialized violence, but the adultification is informed by the history of racialized violence.” So it looks as if this “adultifinicating” process is a direct cause of “racialized violence — i.e. makes Evil Whitey shoot innocent Blacks for no reason. According to this Gupta pajeet and the Sulzberger Blog, anyway.

    Just one minor problem. 4th paragraph of the NYT’s screed:

    As the officer gets out of his vehicle, Ms. Bryant is seen lunging at a woman with what appears to be a knife in her hand. Then, seconds later, in the frenzy and chaos, she lunges at another woman.

    Wait a minute… just how old were the females that the stabber attacked? Could there perhaps be some subcontinentally-perpetrated adultinizing going on here? Let’s see what the Daily Fail has to say:

    “Ma’Khia Bryant’s foster mother has revealed the 16-year-old and two other girls had a brawl over a messy house and an unmade bed before the teen was shot dead by police.
    Angela Moore said two of her former foster children came to Columbus, Ohio, on Tuesday for her birthday when the argument between the youngsters broke out.”

    Obvious adultifornication is obvious. Which obviously means… racialized violence! Unwarranted violent oppression of GOCs [Girls of Color] by Gupta supremacist imperialists! This Gupta is perpetrating exactly the same sort of adultificatory assault on innocent girls that she accuses others of! And her attack is even worse! Because she’s adultifinying two GOCs!

    Very problematic in the current year. It’s like an double adultificide, or something.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @James Forrestal

    Good catch.

  68. @Anonymous
    @Paul Rise


    I, a white man, have spent most of my weekend arguing with my spouse, a white female, about whether our 15 yo white child should take a high status (for a kid) VERY part time job (10 or so hours a week).
     
    High status in whose eyes? Her peers? Future employers? College admissions? Why does this matter?

    I am having difficulty imagining any high status job that could be performed by a 15-year-old, much less one that is only 10 hours/week. Can you elaborate while preserving anonymity?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    High end high-school age (or younger) models work only part time, and the most successful ones do have a lot of status in their particular social and professional milieu. But they are few and far between.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @PiltdownMan

    You're right, VERY bad idea. Two words: Roman Polanski. Wait four words, Roman Polanski, Harvey Weinstein. Actually, six words Roman Polanski, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein. Hold on eight words...Unless you're prepared to be by your daughters side for every minute of those ten hours per week to monitor things letting your daughter engage in that kind of work is pants on head tier stupid. And it won't improve as she gets older or becomes successful, from top to bottom that entire industry is built on sleaze, and advancement is predicated on one thing and one thing only.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  69. @Reg Cæsar

    This is a way to erase the normal adolescent behavior and development that we have come to associate with young people...
     
    If this is normal adolescent behavior, wouldn't any civilized society seek to erase it? Unless the young person is Wolfgang Puck, but then confine him to the kitchen, and his targets to game birds.

    ...for minor infractions, like using their cellphones or throwing tantrums.
     
    Or using tantrums and throwing their cellphones. At others.

    Let’s start with adultification bias.
     
    Adultification bias = Discount a fiat alibi.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Runnin’ Reg, since you’ve had to White Flight so many times to stay segregated, I was wondering if you pack light as a matter of practice?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor

    This is getting old, Corv.

  70. @Zoos

    “Ma’Khia Bryant was a child.”
    — Brittany Cooper, the author of “Eloquent Rage”
     
    Anyone notice the size of MaKilla?

    She wasn’t just fat. She was BIG.

    She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem.

    I think the NYT should update their shitty style book by, as a rule, opting to refrain from referring to anyone as a "child" past puberty.

    In MaKilla's case, "teen hulk" would be an accurate descriptive.

    Replies: @donut, @CCZ, @AndrewR

    “She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem.”

    Maybe, or maybe not; Ms. Cooper does carry a lot of padding:

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @CCZ


    “I hate when people talk about Black women being obese. I hate it, because it becomes a way to blame us for a set of conditions that we didn’t create.” –
     
    Fat just happens?

    Imagine the general prohibition sign with the words

    OBLATE
    LARD
    NOIR
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @CCZ

    I thought Professor Crunk was the character Eddie Murphy played in The Nutty Professor, but I checked and it was Professor Klump. Close, though!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS8zi7Dg8TM&t=3s

  71. In a fair and balanced trial, the defense witnesses need to be harassed and hopefully prosecuted, so that in future trials no one ever would testify against the prosecution. Freedom!

    • Replies: @Redman
    @reiner Tor

    This is really incredible if true. It will have a complete chilling effect on future defense experts whose views may be generally accepted by the scientific community but don’t fit the political narrative.

    Also, the NYP article misstates Fowler’s opinions. It mentions the carbon monoxide and Floyd’s bad heart, but leaves out the fentanyl/meth combo (Speedball) Floyd had just taken. Baker, the Minneapolis ME(who also testified), said the drug combo alone would be enough to kill Floyd. Baker admitted he’s listed Fentanyl as the COD on hundreds of death certificates with the same or much less of it in the toxicology reports.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  72. When caregivers say they have have experience in disarming armed girls there may be some truth in what they are saying. Many years ago at a party at our flat I disarmed a 15 year old girl armed with a large kitchen knife. The girl in question had taken exception to what one of the other 15 year old girls had said to her and sought out our cutlery drawer to arm herself and seek revenge. When I confronted the armed girl I had to make a call: was she full of shit and an ineffectual knife wielder, or was she a real threat? I decided that she was full of shit and took the knife off her (and hid the cutlery drawer) without any problems. It helped that she was a small girl who didn’t look like she knew what she was doing and I knew all our knives were blunt as hell. Everyone involved was white. If she had been a 15 stone girl she may have needed a punch in the face to ensure the upper hand before being disarmed.

    • Replies: @StevenotSailer
    @Hector Ramon

    Did you even bother to watch the video? The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie's gut. There wasn't enough time to say anything to discourage the attack; it was either shoot and drop the assailant or not shoot and watch pinkie get the shiv in her gut. Next time, speak from a place of reality. Otherwise, step away from your keyboard and let the grownups discuss.

    Replies: @James Forrestal, @Hector Ramon

    , @Redman
    @Hector Ramon

    “Caregivers” probably do have experiences to share about all sorts of crazy things. But what is the relevance of that when analyzing the “reasonably prudent police officer”?

    The point is that the NYT writer is trying to squeeze the last drops from this dish rag of a news story to support the BLM/woke narrative. This story is pretty much dead. And will be by the coming week.

    , @res
    @Hector Ramon

    Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    Replies: @ic1000

  73. @ScarletNumber

    I saw someone who just reacted and didn’t take a lay of the land in terms of what was happening, didn’t ask questions, didn’t try to interrupt the fight
     
    This whole situation reminds me of Dirty Harry (2:11) and The Naked Gun

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRA5FBtbHHM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEK0Sbq4o8

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @william munny

    In today’s Clown-World World, it’s hard to imagine that the answer to the question “Who should we get to play the mayor of San Francisco?” would be: John Vernon.

    If I lived in San Francisco, and John Vernon was on the ballot…………..I’d vote for him. Frisco could do a lot worse. And has.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Mr. Anon

    Vernon tried to pivot a bit after his success in Animal House, but he never achieved the level of Leslie Nielsen.

    , @anon
    @Mr. Anon

    John Vernon.

    No.

    1. He's dead, Jim.
    2. He's too good for them.

    Scorpio for Mayor. It's what they deserve.

  74. @Anonymous
    @Bill P


    White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don’t know what else to do. It’s sad.
     
    It isn’t the women’s fault. They are born followers. It is up to men—White men—to lead. But White men have abdicated their role. They cower in fear or have sold out.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Anonymous

    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you’ll end up in jail.

    It works if you can pay her off, but that doesn’t kick in until you’re at the top 5% income level. Otherwise, women have to be either exceptionally wise and sensible during their reproductive years (lol), or they have to be brought up to that role. Both together are as rare as young men who are top 5% earners, and most probably go to those men anyway (assortative mating).

    Where does that leave the rest of us?

    We don’t really live in a civilized society anymore. Our relationships with the opposite sex resemble those of the barbaric Vikings and Iroquois more than they do Victorian Anglos. Might as well accept that fact and deal with it instead of giving men bad advice like “she just wants you to be a leader.” I’m friends with a number of married women and I never hear them say that — not even the ones who go to church.

    Not to say they’re bad women, but the idea is just absurd to them. And why shouldn’t it be?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you’ll end up in jail.
     
    Of the eight most populous states, only Texas and Ohio have had female governors. Texas is a weak-governor state. Ohio's sole lady governor served eleven days as a placeholder..

    Americans will let women govern, but not govern a lot of Americans.

    Replies: @anon, @ScarletNumber

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Bill P

    Again and again I'm impressed by the high quality of the commenting here on Unz. What you say is, unfortunately, all too true.

  75. The New York Times bemoans and bewails the adultification of the attempted murderer as a woman and insists she was just a child.

    The intended victims were women, of course.

    ‘As the officer gets out of his vehicle, Ms. Bryant is seen lunging at a woman with what appears to be a knife in her hand. Then, seconds later, in the frenzy and chaos, she lunges at another woman.’

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Steven Carr


    The intended victims were women, of course.
     
    Wow - good catch.
  76. The fatal shooting of a 16-year-old in Columbus, Ohio, highlights the different standards that young Black girls are held to.

    Shocking honesty from the NY Times.

  77. I read two interesting things about this case today. One was that the mother is going to sue the foster care system; she will have the help from both a law firm and a PR firm. Interesting that she is choosing to bypass going after the cop. Of course he didn’t do anything wrong and I am glad he is going to be left alone but I wonder why her lawyers decided to bypass him.

    The second thing is that she has at least one other of her four living children in foster care. The way the article was worded implied they had been in foster care for awhile. I hope it comes out why they were put into foster care. Mom has said she was trying to get them out but as the author pointed out, people with kids in foster care sometimes say that even when it isn’t true.

    I would love to know if any of what the women in the NYT article claim about black girls being constantly and consistently treated badly can be backed up with studies. A lot of black kids go to school where there are few if any whites so there is no favoring whites over blacks. Do minority teachers treat them unfairly too?

    To me it makes sense that kids from homes and neighborhoods where adults don’t know how to behave are disciplined more at school. The kids go to school upset and miserable a lot and then act up. Where is the surprise? I would act up too if I had parents like them. I have to wonder where black boys figure into this. They have more behavioral problems than whites too.

  78. “Ma’Khia Bryant was a child,”

    LOL. 16 year olds are NOT children. But in any case, they say that children shouldn’t play with knives. Although I was a cub and a boy scout and we all used knives and no one ever though of using them to stab someone else with it.

    they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.

    No, you have to counterattack aggressors with more lethality. “He pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way.”

    Anyway, poor girl, but you have to be pretty stupid to attack someone with a knife in front of armed police.

    P.S. I just watched the video for the first time and have no idea what happened. Stab girl tries to attack other girl first, an adult male kicks the head of this girl who falls to the ground, then she attacks girl in pink with a knife, with an officer pointing a gun at her telling her to stop.

    Surreal.

    If I was a police officer, I would probably have shot everyone around just to be safe (except for the puppy, the puppy didn’t do nothin.)

    But, I’ve seen other similar videos, and this kind of chaotic massive brawls seem to be common among a certain subset of black people.

    And yet, from the video, they have nice houses, nice cars, doesn’t seem a bad neighborhood to live, it’s not a slum.

    (I’m sure the same thing could have happened in a rich white suburb…)

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @Dumbo

    Prefabricated homes always look nice.

  79. @Bill P
    @Anonymous

    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you'll end up in jail.

    It works if you can pay her off, but that doesn't kick in until you're at the top 5% income level. Otherwise, women have to be either exceptionally wise and sensible during their reproductive years (lol), or they have to be brought up to that role. Both together are as rare as young men who are top 5% earners, and most probably go to those men anyway (assortative mating).

    Where does that leave the rest of us?

    We don't really live in a civilized society anymore. Our relationships with the opposite sex resemble those of the barbaric Vikings and Iroquois more than they do Victorian Anglos. Might as well accept that fact and deal with it instead of giving men bad advice like "she just wants you to be a leader." I'm friends with a number of married women and I never hear them say that -- not even the ones who go to church.

    Not to say they're bad women, but the idea is just absurd to them. And why shouldn't it be?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ThreeCranes

    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you’ll end up in jail.

    Of the eight most populous states, only Texas and Ohio have had female governors. Texas is a weak-governor state. Ohio’s sole lady governor served eleven days as a placeholder..

    Americans will let women govern, but not govern a lot of Americans.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    •Dolt

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Reg Cæsar


    Of the eight most populous states, only Texas and Ohio have had female governors.
     
    As per the last official census, Michigan was the 8th-most populous state.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  80. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    High end high-school age (or younger) models work only part time, and the most successful ones do have a lot of status in their particular social and professional milieu. But they are few and far between.

    https://i.imgur.com/gRsfDRv.jpg?1

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You’re right, VERY bad idea. Two words: Roman Polanski. Wait four words, Roman Polanski, Harvey Weinstein. Actually, six words Roman Polanski, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein. Hold on eight words…Unless you’re prepared to be by your daughters side for every minute of those ten hours per week to monitor things letting your daughter engage in that kind of work is pants on head tier stupid. And it won’t improve as she gets older or becomes successful, from top to bottom that entire industry is built on sleaze, and advancement is predicated on one thing and one thing only.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Anonymous

    Agreed. But there's almost a stereotype of young girl models being accompanied by their watchful mothers every step of the way. That, of course, can go either way—the mother might be protective and watchful, or be an amoral monster who is in it only for her own emotional needs.

    I have a friend whose daughter was a clothing and fashion brands model until the age of 16. Her dad, my buddy, never let her out of his sight for even a second. Admittedly, that's an unusual case. He has a bit of a grim and imposing physical presence, so that did provide an additional layer of deterrence.

  81. Off Topic:

    The Associated Press has been putting out articles for more than a week about the President of Mexico wanting the US to get involved in a make-work environmental project planting trees in Mexico and The Northern Triangle of Central America to keep people from migrating. So far, so good.

    But then he wants us to give these men US temporary work visas so they can come up here and work legally off and on for a few years during a number of six months periods and then we would give them citizenship. Huh? Why would we do that? How does us giving people work visas and citizenship reduce immigration? It doesn’t! How stupid do they think we are?

    Harris is going to talk about this with him on May 7. We will find out how dumb the Biden administration really is if they fall for something as obviously counterproductive as this program would be for us. I can’t believe Mexico even has the nerve to suggest it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9507809/Mexican-leader-talk-Kamala-Harris-migration.html

  82. @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you’ll end up in jail.
     
    Of the eight most populous states, only Texas and Ohio have had female governors. Texas is a weak-governor state. Ohio's sole lady governor served eleven days as a placeholder..

    Americans will let women govern, but not govern a lot of Americans.

    Replies: @anon, @ScarletNumber

    •Dolt

  83. @Anonymous
    @PiltdownMan

    You're right, VERY bad idea. Two words: Roman Polanski. Wait four words, Roman Polanski, Harvey Weinstein. Actually, six words Roman Polanski, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein. Hold on eight words...Unless you're prepared to be by your daughters side for every minute of those ten hours per week to monitor things letting your daughter engage in that kind of work is pants on head tier stupid. And it won't improve as she gets older or becomes successful, from top to bottom that entire industry is built on sleaze, and advancement is predicated on one thing and one thing only.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Agreed. But there’s almost a stereotype of young girl models being accompanied by their watchful mothers every step of the way. That, of course, can go either way—the mother might be protective and watchful, or be an amoral monster who is in it only for her own emotional needs.

    I have a friend whose daughter was a clothing and fashion brands model until the age of 16. Her dad, my buddy, never let her out of his sight for even a second. Admittedly, that’s an unusual case. He has a bit of a grim and imposing physical presence, so that did provide an additional layer of deterrence.

  84. @Dumbo

    “Ma’Khia Bryant was a child,”

     

    LOL. 16 year olds are NOT children. But in any case, they say that children shouldn't play with knives. Although I was a cub and a boy scout and we all used knives and no one ever though of using them to stab someone else with it.

    they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.

     

    No, you have to counterattack aggressors with more lethality. "He pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way."

    Anyway, poor girl, but you have to be pretty stupid to attack someone with a knife in front of armed police.

    P.S. I just watched the video for the first time and have no idea what happened. Stab girl tries to attack other girl first, an adult male kicks the head of this girl who falls to the ground, then she attacks girl in pink with a knife, with an officer pointing a gun at her telling her to stop.

    Surreal.

    If I was a police officer, I would probably have shot everyone around just to be safe (except for the puppy, the puppy didn't do nothin.)

    But, I've seen other similar videos, and this kind of chaotic massive brawls seem to be common among a certain subset of black people.

    And yet, from the video, they have nice houses, nice cars, doesn't seem a bad neighborhood to live, it's not a slum.

    (I'm sure the same thing could have happened in a rich white suburb...)

    Replies: @John Up North

    Prefabricated homes always look nice.

  85. CNN: We are not letting Chauvin go.

    CNN looks deep into Derek Chauvin’s EYES to keep George Floyd story alive

    Revealing another chapter in the Protocol of the Elders of Whiteness.

    Also, those courtrooom sketches are hideous and tendentious.

    The narrative, promulgated at once by activists, politicians, journalists and corporations, was that the verdict was just the beginning, and that the nation (or rather its white population) still had to “do the work” to uproot and eradicate racism for good.

    For CNN, doing this “work” involved looking into Chauvin’s soul through his eyes. In a piece of ‘analysis’ published on Saturday, writer John Blake looked into Chauvin’s eyes and saw “something worse than hate” – “indifference.”

    To Blake, a freeze-framed image of Chauvin looking nonchalant as he knelt on Floyd’s back “tells a story about racism that many people don’t want to hear.” The killer cop’s lack of interest, the argument goes, makes him more racist than if he had screamed epithets into Floyd’s ear.

    “Violent acts of White racism grab the headlines,” Blake wrote. “But the most pervasive forms of racism take root when White judges, cops, politicians and ordinary people look the other way to not see what is happening right in front of their faces.”

    A CNN director straight-up admitted this month that the network sees itself as allied with the BLM cause, and pushes stories of white-on-black violence because – direct quote – viewers “lap it up.”

    Chauvin was a ratings hit, just like Floyd’s death last year propelled CNN’s ratings to their highest level in 40 years.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
    @El Dato

    So by that logic, CNN believes it will be a sign of progress if we see cops kill with more hate in their eyes...

  86. Knife fights among black girls are nothing new. A relative of mine was a teacher for CPS from the 1920s to the 1950s. Over the years she saw her share of black violence. She always recalled an incident where blood squirted up to the ceiling as a result of two black girls in a knife fight. I don’t believe my relative was ever injured.

  87. @Anon

    According to a 2017 report by the Georgetown Law Center on Poverty and Inequality.

    The report found that Black girls as young as 5 years old are held to adultlike standards and, in turn, receive harsher punishments for their behavior: Black girls are more likely to be suspended or arrested at school than their white peers
     

    Here's the report:

    https://www.law.georgetown.edu/poverty-inequality-center/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2017/08/girlhood-interrupted.pdf

    https://www.law.georgetown.edu/news/black-girls-viewed-as-less-innocent-than-white-girls-georgetown-law-research-finds-2/

    Here are some findings from the report:


    “This new evidence of what we call the ‘adultification’ of black girls may help explain why black girls in America are disciplined much more often and more severely than white girls – across our schools and in our juvenile justice system,” said Epstein.

    The new report reveals that adults think:

    - Black girls seem older than white girls of the same age.
    - Black girls need less nurturing than white girls.
    - Black girls need less protection than white girls.
    - Black girls need to be supported less than white girls.
    - Black girls need to be comforted less than white girls.
    - Black girls are more independent than white girls.
    - Black girls know more about adult topics than white girls.
    - Black girls know more about sex than white girls.
     

    Numbers 2 through 5 are restatements of the same thing, and are fuzzy qualitative opinions, so let's skip those.

    Numbers 1 and 6 simply express the fact that blacks mature faster than whites or Asians, including but not limited to physical size. This is not controversial among researchers. These findings are based on measuring stuff scientifically.

    Numbers 7 and 8 seem to be about black girls maturing faster specifically in the area of sex, which again is not controversial. Menarche is 9 to 12 months earlier than white girls (up to two years earlier than Asian girls), first sexual experience a year earlier, and first pregnancy a year earlier. This is true in the U.S., in the Carribean, in black-governed countries in Africa as well as Haiti, and in urban and rural settings. It's a well-established finding.

    Anyway, the whole reason that this topic of "black girls are unfairly felt to be adultish" is a thing these days is that it's considered an effective new tactic to use against the problem that black girl students are disciplined more, suspended more, referred to the police more, charged more frequently with a crime, less likely to have their criminal charges dismissed or pled down, and so on.

    All this is because everyone sees black girls as adults. It has nothing to do with their behavior. The only explanation to differential treatment is that the racist whitey hegemonic patriarchy of white supremacy is out to destroy our beautiful, knife-wielding, TikTokCute black girly-girls.

    Replies: @cityview, @Forbes

    Lists like this one aren’t brand new; they have been around for a while. I agree to some extent with the reasoning here, but I think it is class-based rather than race-based, for the most part. I think all girls from lower-income families tend to be treated as more adultlike, less in need of comforting, etc. This callous treatment is often coming from other family members.

    • Agree: notsaying
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @cityview

    Are all girls from lower income families six and a half feet tall?

  88. @Change that Matters
    Every article by an Indian journalist should come with a 'transparency statement' disclosing the full extent to which they and their families have benefited from the caste system.

    Also, this: "All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone."

    Can someone please provide videos of this happening. In the Insta-TT era, there must be at least one, right?

    Replies: @Polistra, @bro3886, @CCZ

    Here are a couple more black girls, whose stimulus checks didn’t come in time.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9453065/USPS-worker-savagely-beaten-two-women-trying-stimulus-checks.html

    Did we miss this gem? I can’t keep track.

    Postal routes & letter carriers should be segregated.

  89. “what appears to be a knife in her hand”

    There it is!

    We’ve gone from the nonsense of the news media obsessively saying “alleged criminal”, as if “innocent until proven guilty” applied outside a courtroom, to applying that silly standard even to inanimate objects.

  90. @kaganovitch
    In media coverage, Ms. Bryant has consistently been referred to as a woman,

    Is this really true? I have not seen her referred to as 'a woman'.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @cityview

    I thought at the beginning of the coverage, she was referred to as a young woman over and over again. In doing this, the reporters, etc., were diligently conforming to the usage that I remember a huge uproar being made over more than forty years ago. Between about 1975-1980, there was an enormous effort made to use terms like anchorwoman, policewoman, spokeswoman, councilwoman, women’s room, women’s college. And after that, or maybe a few years later, I remember it being settled in the professional classes. So it is very ironic for me to see now “how dare you call her a young woman–she is a child!” That was the opposite of what was preferred by so many for years.

    (My own preference was then and is now for gender-neutral terms like spokesperson, councilperson, etc. But that wasn’t really what caught on.)

  91. Anonymous[624] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Retiree
    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Ian Smith, @ic1000, @Op

    Actually, the entire Economist-whipped western political and elite governing class.

    – That’s who.

  92. By Alisha Haridasani Gupta
    April 24, 2021, 2:30 p.m. ET

    She is the author of the above NY Times piece. With their wacky names etc. And the foreigner fueled wacki-tude continues onward. Hysterical, whitey despising, Foreign women. Irrelevant if she was born here or immigrated, anti-white all the same.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Clyde

    That's the one sold by Coke. Aquafina is the one sold by Pepsi. But both are actually municipal tapwater.

    , @Bumpkin
  93. Anonymous[624] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Bill P


    White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don’t know what else to do. It’s sad.
     
    It isn’t the women’s fault. They are born followers. It is up to men—White men—to lead. But White men have abdicated their role. They cower in fear or have sold out.

    Replies: @Bill P, @Anonymous

    But, surely, isn’t that *EXACTLY* what the 100+ year elitist push toward ‘sex equality’ was/is all about?

  94. Who needs the Babylon Bee when we’ve got the New York Times?

    Actually, the weird thing is that the Bee would never dare this article as satire; yet somehow the Times can print it in all seriousness.

    • Agree: Charon
  95. Because of layers of gendered racism, adults tend to view Black girls as more threatening, more aggressive, more mature and less innocent than white girls of the same age,

    True this.

    Hundreds show up in US park for pool noodle Josh fight

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/hundreds-show-up-in-us-park-for-pool-noodle-josh-fight/ar-BB1g1oFb?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAnZ9Ug

    Why didn’t the police shut this whiteboy melee down?

  96. I would guess the average author such a NYT article has never in his or her life spent at least 10 minutes in the same room with a person like the young women who got shot. Also I guess the average NYT reporter would actively avoid such a situation.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Erik Sieven

    They do everything possible in their living patterns to avoid "a person like the young women who got shot."

  97. @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer

    Is there any way to determine (or guess) if Ma'Khia's foster parents were in it for the monthly state provided stipend money? These range from $500-$1100 depending on the official rates in the state the foster home is in, for children who are not deemed to be "special needs." For special needs kids, the rates are significantly higher.

    The amounts are modest, but some people do get into fostering in the hopes of being able to skim off excess from the state subsidy funds provided for the care of a particular foster child.

    The presence of so many similar age girls in one foster location makes me wonder.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker

    If they were, it looks as if they were earning it.

  98. @Steven Carr
    The New York Times bemoans and bewails the adultification of the attempted murderer as a woman and insists she was just a child.

    The intended victims were women, of course.

    'As the officer gets out of his vehicle, Ms. Bryant is seen lunging at a woman with what appears to be a knife in her hand. Then, seconds later, in the frenzy and chaos, she lunges at another woman.'

    Replies: @vinteuil

    The intended victims were women, of course.

    Wow – good catch.

  99. @Jackbnimbl
    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Ed Case, @Paperback Writer, @res

    I read that the average African/American woman has higher Testosterone levels than the average white North American man
    Even allowing for younger black women not wearing excess clothing, that’s still freaky.

  100. @Clyde

    By Alisha Haridasani Gupta
    April 24, 2021, 2:30 p.m. ET
     
    She is the author of the above NY Times piece. With their wacky names etc. And the foreigner fueled wacki-tude continues onward. Hysterical, whitey despising, Foreign women. Irrelevant if she was born here or immigrated, anti-white all the same.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bumpkin

    That’s the one sold by Coke. Aquafina is the one sold by Pepsi. But both are actually municipal tapwater.

  101. @Ralph L
    Eight inches? Looked like less than six to me.

    Replies: @anon, @Ed Case, @bro3886

    They’re being tricky.
    If newspapers are gunning for the stabber, they’ll add the handle length to the blade length, so a 4 inch blade becomes a 9 inch knife.
    In this case, the blade appears to be 8 inches at least, so if the NYT was trying to hang Knife Girl, they’d be calling it a 13 inch knife.
    Just my opinion, no experience, a 2 or 3 inch blade on a normal size handle would be much easier to control and probably deadlier, if that was the user’s intent.

  102. @cityview
    @Anon

    Lists like this one aren't brand new; they have been around for a while. I agree to some extent with the reasoning here, but I think it is class-based rather than race-based, for the most part. I think all girls from lower-income families tend to be treated as more adultlike, less in need of comforting, etc. This callous treatment is often coming from other family members.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Are all girls from lower income families six and a half feet tall?

  103. It could have been the punctuation in her name that caused her to turn violent.

    • Agree: notsaying
  104. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Sigh.

    The lunatics are now running the asylum.

    There is no use trying to use reason with the folks getting published in the New York Times or those who look to the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, WaPost, Hollywood – look to the J Lib Media for moral guidance, political guidance.

    These people are crazy or just enablers to the BLM Hutu murderous mobs rampaging with their machetes.

    My daily excursions walking or god forbid trying to drive in urban Chicago are increasingly feeling like something out of the Walking Dead.

    J Ryan
    Left behind in Chicago

    • Replies: @Charon
    @anonymous

    I hear you bro, and commiserate.

    It's hell to be left behind.

  105. @Hector Ramon
    When caregivers say they have have experience in disarming armed girls there may be some truth in what they are saying. Many years ago at a party at our flat I disarmed a 15 year old girl armed with a large kitchen knife. The girl in question had taken exception to what one of the other 15 year old girls had said to her and sought out our cutlery drawer to arm herself and seek revenge. When I confronted the armed girl I had to make a call: was she full of shit and an ineffectual knife wielder, or was she a real threat? I decided that she was full of shit and took the knife off her (and hid the cutlery drawer) without any problems. It helped that she was a small girl who didn't look like she knew what she was doing and I knew all our knives were blunt as hell. Everyone involved was white. If she had been a 15 stone girl she may have needed a punch in the face to ensure the upper hand before being disarmed.

    Replies: @StevenotSailer, @Redman, @res

    Did you even bother to watch the video? The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie’s gut. There wasn’t enough time to say anything to discourage the attack; it was either shoot and drop the assailant or not shoot and watch pinkie get the shiv in her gut. Next time, speak from a place of reality. Otherwise, step away from your keyboard and let the grownups discuss.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    @StevenotSailer


    The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie’s gut.
     
    Yeah, no kidding. Screaming "I'm gonna stab the fuck out of you, bitch!" immediately prior to the attack sounds a little more like murderous intent that mere hysteria/ posturing, too.

    https://i.postimg.cc/kGj5wB72/Stab-Girl-Winds-Up.jpg

    I mean, look at that -- she's stepping into it with a big windup, hand low, ready to pivot her upper body into the strike and rip upward.

    As her co-ethnics would say, she ain't playin'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypvKOtz4jCo
    , @Hector Ramon
    @StevenotSailer

    I did watch the video. I think the police officer made the right call in this situation.

    My point was that Steve rejected the idea of disarming a knife wielder out of hand. I am speaking from a point of reality: I have disarmed a knife wielding "girl". By the same token the father of a psychotic young woman I worked with tried to take a knife off her to stop her harming herself. He was stabbed to death. Then she stabbed everyone else in her parents house and then went next door and stabbed a neighbour and was on her way to stab more people when she was brought down by a police dog. The other stabbing victims all survived. She wasn't shot and she is currently residing in the secure wing of a mental hospital. That is the kind of experience that might prompt some people to question the outcome here. If you've seen people survive knife attacks, you've seen knife armed suspects taken down by dogs and you've seen caregivers disarm girls making dramatic gestures with knives you might question why this latest girl had to die. Such people may not be reasonable in their expectations but there is some reality behind their stance.

  106. @PiltdownMan
    @Paleo Retiree

    The reporter on that story, Alisha Haridasani Gupta, is billed as a “gender reporter.”

    In these times, especially, I expect that that’s a prestigious job description in the environs such as the New York Times, with fierce competition for the slot from graduates of the various gender studies programs at our elite universities (the NYT is a very Yale-Harvard kind of place.)

    Ms. Gupta’s credentials, going by her listed background online, don’t quite fit that mold—a Hong Konger of Indian descent, she has a degree from the decent, but hardly elite City University in London and a Masters in International Affairs with a focus on war and conflict.

    As with fields such as engineering, contract computer programming, convenience stores in small-town America and so on previously, South Asians are pretty good at spotting the next trending prestige career opportunity for themselves.

    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking. Add pot-stirring to the list of opportunities immigrants look forward to taking advantage of, when they envision themselves moving here.

    Replies: @Peterike, @Buzz Mohawk, @Rob McX

    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking.

    Mercenaries imported for the war against whites. If Reardon had let Knife-Girl kill her victim, Gupta would have a 1000-word article ready in a couple of days about how police will watch blacks being murdered while having full power to prevent it.

  107. @Change that Matters
    Every article by an Indian journalist should come with a 'transparency statement' disclosing the full extent to which they and their families have benefited from the caste system.

    Also, this: "All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone."

    Can someone please provide videos of this happening. In the Insta-TT era, there must be at least one, right?

    Replies: @Polistra, @bro3886, @CCZ

    Every article by an Indian “journalist” should come with a statement that they came to America to live as parasites on white culture and the white population, they sure as hell didn’t move to Ethiopia. And that they almost always burn with hatred against the native population common to racist colonialists.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @bro3886

    One would have thought that Idi Amin, Kenyatta and the revolt in Zanzibar would have taught Indians a thing or two ....

    Replies: @anon

  108. @CCZ
    @Zoos


    "She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem."
     
    Maybe, or maybe not; Ms. Cooper does carry a lot of padding:

    https://twitter.com/BlackWomenOWN/status/1173695998989721601

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Harry Baldwin

    “I hate when people talk about Black women being obese. I hate it, because it becomes a way to blame us for a set of conditions that we didn’t create.” –

    Fat just happens?

    Imagine the general prohibition sign with the words

    OBLATE
    LARD
    NOIR

  109. @Ralph L
    Eight inches? Looked like less than six to me.

    Replies: @anon, @Ed Case, @bro3886

    That’s what she said!

  110. Short version: White man, they hate you and want you dead.

    Whites are trapped in a situation that would in other circumstances be classed as some kind of psychological torture. If they try to protect themselves from blacks, they’re doomed. If they’re charged with protecting blacks from each other, they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. There is no course of action they can take that will prevent people like Gupta from stoking up the hatred against them.

    Until last year, there might have been some hope of resolving these problems in the existing political framework. Not any more. Short of separating themselves entirely and forming their own nations, whites can’t do anything to fix the problem.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Rob McX

    Very true, only it's been that way for more than 50 years now. Whites are now--finally-- confronting this (or, more accurately are being forced to confront this). I think video and the Internet have contributed to this, in a good way, as has the yuuuge decline that America has had in the past 50 years, due largely to these same people. We're close to endgame kicking off. Whether we stay stalled for a while is the question, but we're on the 5 yard line.

  111. @thinklikea1l
    One way to think about a "child" (probably the default way most people have thought about it historically) is someone who is not grown enough to be a threat in melee combat.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    The “people” defending her used the same script with that weirdo in Columbia who got bullied by the roid raging drill sergeant. He was 21 with a mustache but people were like “STOP CALLING HIM A YOUNG MAN, HE’S A CHILD, STOP ADULTIFYING BLACK CHILDREN” lmao

  112. @ScarletNumber

    I saw someone who just reacted and didn’t take a lay of the land in terms of what was happening, didn’t ask questions, didn’t try to interrupt the fight
     
    This whole situation reminds me of Dirty Harry (2:11) and The Naked Gun

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRA5FBtbHHM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEK0Sbq4o8

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @william munny

    I didn’t realize for years that the Mayor in the Naked Gun later became Tony Soprano’s mom.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @william munny

    She aged a lot in those 10 years between 60 and 70. She was brilliant as that cold, calculating, narcissistic Italian mother, yet she won her Emmys for being Lou Grant's boss.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  113. @anonymous
    Sigh.

    The lunatics are now running the asylum.

    There is no use trying to use reason with the folks getting published in the New York Times or those who look to the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, WaPost, Hollywood - look to the J Lib Media for moral guidance, political guidance.

    These people are crazy or just enablers to the BLM Hutu murderous mobs rampaging with their machetes.

    My daily excursions walking or god forbid trying to drive in urban Chicago are increasingly feeling like something out of the Walking Dead.

    J Ryan
    Left behind in Chicago

    Replies: @Charon

    I hear you bro, and commiserate.

    It’s hell to be left behind.

  114. It’s interesting to see that it is always the policeman who is obliged to “deescalate”, never the neighbours or else. In this case, there were a lot people around (mostly Black, it seems). Obviously they did not deescalate, most of them did not even try. Probably someone tried to deescalate, failed and then called the police.

  115. Cormac McCarthy pretty much nailed the whole situation:

    “It takes very little to govern good people. Very little.
    And bad people cant be governed at all. Or if they could, I never heard of it.”

    No Country for Old Men

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @AceDeuce

    Good people are like Border Collies, biddable. Once they get the general principle, Border Collies only need to be given an indication. They won't tolerate being treated roughly, won't put up with a low-class master. They insist that their master be at least as intelligent and well mannered as they are.

    I recall once approaching a friend's house and cutting across his lawn. My Border Collie literally turned and gave me "the look" as she followed the sidewalk up to his front door as if to say, "What in the hell do you think you're doing?"

    Replies: @David In TN

  116. @Peterike
    @PiltdownMan

    So black children are like little adults. And black adults are mostly like overgrown children. That’s what I got out of this discussion.

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    That’s what I’ve distilled years of reading and commenting here down to. The other side of the “adultificatioin” coin is the “infantilization” of all minorities.

    Now that women and womanly men run our society and report our news, every minority person is to be regarded and treated as an infant in day care.

    There it is distilled down to one sentence.

    Straight White men are abhorrent because they don’t bring the needed sensitivity and tenderness to bear upon the problems faced by these helpless infants. Instead they bring the Reality Principles of autonomy, objectivity, responsibility and competence i.e. “adultification” to the table. These are poisons to the fantasy world created and sustained by the women who run the daycare agency that our society has become.

    Gay men are okay both because they are fellow “victims” and because they are especially sensitive, non-judgmental and nurturing (supposedly). Gay men are non-threatening. (Most women have no clue as to the brutal nature of gay sex nor to the predatory behavior of gay men towards random men they encounter when on the prowl.)

    As in olden days, women’s input should largely be restricted to educating children from the forth grade down. There are some exceptions and we should allow for this, but in the main, women have no interest in adopting a neutral, objective perspective. They should be tested and if they show no capacity for such thinking, then, fine, let them run the daycares and educate infants. Affirmative action is responsible for this mess. Standardized testing would quickly sort it out. Juries too should be selected by testing.

    • Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @ThreeCranes


    Now that women and womanly men run our society and report our news, every minority person is to be regarded and treated as an infant in day care.
     
    Not just minorities
  117. @Anon7
    “ the different standards that young Black girls are held to”

    I’m trying to remember: did I ever discuss stabbing or other knife use with my daughter? Is that supposed to be part of “The Talk”?

    “ the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.”

    I thought that was just the car next to me at the light; I couldn’t believe the bass.

    “ adults tend to view Black girls as more threatening, more aggressive, more mature and less innocent than white girls”

    Is that why big corporations hire all the black females they can find?

    “ they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.”

    Besides, can’t you just shoot them in the leg or something? Black cops in the movies can do it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKojFoPzQoQ

    Replies: @Charon

    Blacks in the movies are just amazing!

    That’s what I want to be when I grow up.

  118. @kaganovitch
    @SafeNow

    Perhaps "Hey ,Hey , this is library"?

    Replies: @Charon

    Definitely fighting words…

  119. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paleo Retiree

    Here's my favorite paragraph:


    But the timing of the shooting — on the same day that the former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murdering George Floyd last May — underscored, for many, the incessant drumbeat of police brutality and systemic racism.
     
    What?

    What does anything have to do with anything in that paragraph? Who is beating the drum, by the way? Where is the "police brutality" and "systemic racism." Those are narratives, buddy, not truths. This is an alternate universe where nothing has to make sense and the New York Times makes the truth. Ergo, Officer Reardon = Officer Chauvin = killer.

    Fuck this shit.

    And the readers eat it all up. To hell with them. And they are, you know, edumacated, mostly professional. Who else reads the God damned New York Times? And they believe this shit. They have to be the stupidest people in America. What a joke.

    Replies: @Abe, @ThreeCranes

    Disagree.

    They are not just “the stupidest people in America” They are the stupidest people on Earth.

    • Agree: sayless
  120. @Paleo Retiree
    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Ian Smith, @ic1000, @Op

    Ambitious, brown nosing Brahmins.

    • Replies: @gent
    @Ian Smith

    They're not actually Brahmins, they're Vaisya pretending.

  121. @Paleo Retiree
    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Ian Smith, @ic1000, @Op

    > “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Readers should jump ahead six of Steve’s insomniac-on-a-roll posts to Who Is the Headkicker in the Stabby Columbus Brouhaha?

    It turns out that investigative journalism is alive and well, even if it’s a job that the NYT’s Brahmin import gendered-racism reporter won’t do. Instead, Sailer helpfully points to a blog post by “Turtleboy”, who delved into social media and (of course) local court records to provide the context for Knife Girl’s Fifteen Minutes (15 seconds?) of Fame.

    Context that — somehow! — Lester Holt and the rest of the Prestige Media have completely missed.

  122. @reiner Tor
    In a fair and balanced trial, the defense witnesses need to be harassed and hopefully prosecuted, so that in future trials no one ever would testify against the prosecution. Freedom!

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1386072324642938880

    Replies: @Redman

    This is really incredible if true. It will have a complete chilling effect on future defense experts whose views may be generally accepted by the scientific community but don’t fit the political narrative.

    Also, the NYP article misstates Fowler’s opinions. It mentions the carbon monoxide and Floyd’s bad heart, but leaves out the fentanyl/meth combo (Speedball) Floyd had just taken. Baker, the Minneapolis ME(who also testified), said the drug combo alone would be enough to kill Floyd. Baker admitted he’s listed Fentanyl as the COD on hundreds of death certificates with the same or much less of it in the toxicology reports.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Redman

    Well, rule of law n sheeit.

    TBH I don’t think the cop did anything wrong, perhaps he could have checked the heartbeat of George Floyd, but it’s questionable if his life could have been saved. It’s certainly not like he deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars.

  123. @Anonymous
    @Jackbnimbl


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable .
     
    Citation needed. Implausible.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Jackbnimbl, @res

    I believe I saw it on one of audacious epigones articles. I’m sure it’s suppressed by google and I don’t have all day to look, but definetly out there somewhere

  124. It’s More Than Just Tragic

    One indirect factor to observe is how much conditioning the NYT readership needs to accept The Narrative.

    Daffy’s beak drops to the ground. Daffy reaches down, picks it up and puts it back on his face with a snap.

    He walks Elmer away by the arm.

    Elmer: More briefing?

    Daffy: More briefing…

    https://www.theclassictoons.com/321/duck-rabbit-duck/

    The headline says it all. The NYT readership cares more about this troubled girl than all of us sh*tbirds” in awe of this police officer.

    You know, it wasn’t that long ago that the NYT would have written a sensible 10,000 article detailing how the system (e.g. Social Services; Foster Care) had failed this girl.

    No, we’ve evolved beyond those terrible, awful traditional notions of “adultification.” Like a child having to leave school to provide for his family, or missing out on rites of passage because of, say, needing to care for a sick parent.

    robbing Black girls of the freedom to be children

    Perhaps we need public service announcements, including most especially on TikTok, informing one and all that a condition precedent of “freedom,” however defined, is learning to keep you hands to yourself.

    No self-respecting teenager wants to be treated like a child. Except insofar as having access to the food growing in the refrigerator and such.

  125. @Bill P
    I grew up around a lot of blacks, and have seen a few fairly extreme examples of black girl-on-girl violence. One that I remember particularly vividly involved a couple of girls beating another one with a tree branch that was about as thick as a baseball bat.

    Most violent episodes revolved around sexual competition. Usually the pretty one got the worst of it. I wouldn't be surprised if this was behind the big girl going after the girl in pink with a knife.

    It is indeed a major cultural difference. Nobody would have much sympathy for a big, hefty white girl physically assaulting a much prettier romantic rival. Especially not progressive, elite whites. Honestly, I don't think black Africans would think too highly of it, either. It's a very strange sexual inversion unique to American black culture.

    If white progressive women knew what was good for them, they wouldn't encourage this. If it's normalized, the skinny, progressive, yoga pants ladies shopping at Whole Foods are going to be in trouble. Most of us white guys aren't going to step in on their behalf like Nick Reardon did.

    It's kind of like the trans thing. White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don't know what else to do. It's sad.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @ThreeCranes, @ScarletNumber

    I agree with your perceptive comment.

    After hours was fight time at my high school and a ring of black students forming an arena around a couple of black gorgongladiators was the highlight of their day. The spectators enjoyed themselves immensely.

  126. @Alden
    @Jackbnimbl

    True, but it’s mostly their small children. Call it delayed abortion and black women’s homicide rates fall.
    Why mostly small children? Because the little ones are smaller and more fragile.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  127. @Ian Smith
    @Paleo Retiree

    Ambitious, brown nosing Brahmins.

    Replies: @gent

    They’re not actually Brahmins, they’re Vaisya pretending.

    • Thanks: Ian Smith
  128. @Bill P
    @Anonymous

    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you'll end up in jail.

    It works if you can pay her off, but that doesn't kick in until you're at the top 5% income level. Otherwise, women have to be either exceptionally wise and sensible during their reproductive years (lol), or they have to be brought up to that role. Both together are as rare as young men who are top 5% earners, and most probably go to those men anyway (assortative mating).

    Where does that leave the rest of us?

    We don't really live in a civilized society anymore. Our relationships with the opposite sex resemble those of the barbaric Vikings and Iroquois more than they do Victorian Anglos. Might as well accept that fact and deal with it instead of giving men bad advice like "she just wants you to be a leader." I'm friends with a number of married women and I never hear them say that -- not even the ones who go to church.

    Not to say they're bad women, but the idea is just absurd to them. And why shouldn't it be?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ThreeCranes

    Again and again I’m impressed by the high quality of the commenting here on Unz. What you say is, unfortunately, all too true.

  129. @william munny
    @ScarletNumber

    I didn't realize for years that the Mayor in the Naked Gun later became Tony Soprano's mom.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    She aged a lot in those 10 years between 60 and 70. She was brilliant as that cold, calculating, narcissistic Italian mother, yet she won her Emmys for being Lou Grant’s boss.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @ScarletNumber

    She was also, early in her career, the original plain-Jane girlfriend in the live TV broadcast of Paddy Chayefsky's Marty in 1953, opposite Rod Steiger as Marty. This was two years before the movie. Well worth seeking out--in some ways it's better than the film (which is also quite good).

  130. @Paul Rise
    OT?

    I, a white man, have spent most of my weekend arguing with my spouse, a white female, about whether our 15 yo white child should take a high status (for a kid) VERY part time job (10 or so hours a week).

    I think its a bad idea, my wife, who is I think a little star struck by the "status" of the job (which is localized to a discrete community) thinks its a big positive step forward for our kid.

    Regardless of the situation, my overall point is, these are the concerns white people have for their children vs other communities in the US.

    Anyway, I feel like we are

    "robbing [my white kid's] of the freedom to be children"

    By making them getting a high status summer job at age 15. White man's burden.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber

    Infantalizing your daughter isn’t doing her any favors. What else would she be doing with that “freedom”? Using TikTok?

  131. @Yancey Ward
    It takes an incredible amount of shamelessness to create this sort of strawman version of what happened in Columbus, but NYTimes writers have done it once again. Reardon literally had no chance to talk Bryant out of attacking the girl in pink- it was literally shoot Bryant or allow Bryant to finish whatever it was she was doing with that knife in that instant. And, even worse- we all know what the narrative would have been had Reardon not acted and Bryant killed or severely injured the girl in pink- the narrative would have blamed Reardon for that, too.

    But, I guess according to the NYTimes, Reardon probably should have asked the bystanders the girl's name, looked up her TikTok videos so that he would have known she was "young". I saw and knew exactly what Reardon did when he pulled up on the scene- I would have put Bryant's age between 14 and 30, but in the heat of the moment, I would not have even given a sh*t what her age was- the only facts that matter in that instant was the knife and the girl Bryant was about to stab. Talk about arm-chair quaterbacking on a Monday morning.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Sick 'n Tired

    Our rulers are absolutely demonic, which means that we will owe them nothing when we remove them from power

  132. @Buzz Mohawk
    @PiltdownMan


    Ms. Gupta is one of several South Asian women who’ve opined or reported on race relations in America, I’ve noticed, over the last few years, despite having no actual dog in that hunt, personally speaking.
     
    Oh but they do have a "dog in the hunt." They are the dogs who are doing their part to weaken White Americans, thus making it easier for South Asians and others to take top levels in America, a country their people did not build.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR

    I’ve heard it suggested that South Asians, being so similar to Jews in all the worst ways, are being set up as a scapegoat for Jews to use when SHTF and Americans are looking for someone to blame. In the long term, it’s probably not in Indians’ best interests to alienate the white man.

  133. @Paleo Retiree
    “Layers of gendered racism“??? Who writes, let alone thinks, like this?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Ian Smith, @ic1000, @Op

    My sister-in-law.

  134. @AceDeuce
    Cormac McCarthy pretty much nailed the whole situation:

    "It takes very little to govern good people. Very little.
    And bad people cant be governed at all. Or if they could, I never heard of it."

    No Country for Old Men

    Replies: @ThreeCranes

    Good people are like Border Collies, biddable. Once they get the general principle, Border Collies only need to be given an indication. They won’t tolerate being treated roughly, won’t put up with a low-class master. They insist that their master be at least as intelligent and well mannered as they are.

    I recall once approaching a friend’s house and cutting across his lawn. My Border Collie literally turned and gave me “the look” as she followed the sidewalk up to his front door as if to say, “What in the hell do you think you’re doing?”

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @ThreeCranes

    I have a mixed breed Border Collie and that's how she is.

  135. I wonder why it took so long for the confrontation to boil over into the violence we’ve seen. Who can stay worked up for >10 minutes, or did the arrival of the po’ leece set her and the head-kicker off again? Was the kickee the 911 caller?

  136. @Paul Rise
    OT?

    I, a white man, have spent most of my weekend arguing with my spouse, a white female, about whether our 15 yo white child should take a high status (for a kid) VERY part time job (10 or so hours a week).

    I think its a bad idea, my wife, who is I think a little star struck by the "status" of the job (which is localized to a discrete community) thinks its a big positive step forward for our kid.

    Regardless of the situation, my overall point is, these are the concerns white people have for their children vs other communities in the US.

    Anyway, I feel like we are

    "robbing [my white kid's] of the freedom to be children"

    By making them getting a high status summer job at age 15. White man's burden.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @ScarletNumber

    10 hours a week during the summer isn’t depriving anyone of anything, especially a 15 y/o, unless your family is so rich that it would impede on planned trips. She should be able to work 20 without breaking a sweat.

  137. @Hector Ramon
    When caregivers say they have have experience in disarming armed girls there may be some truth in what they are saying. Many years ago at a party at our flat I disarmed a 15 year old girl armed with a large kitchen knife. The girl in question had taken exception to what one of the other 15 year old girls had said to her and sought out our cutlery drawer to arm herself and seek revenge. When I confronted the armed girl I had to make a call: was she full of shit and an ineffectual knife wielder, or was she a real threat? I decided that she was full of shit and took the knife off her (and hid the cutlery drawer) without any problems. It helped that she was a small girl who didn't look like she knew what she was doing and I knew all our knives were blunt as hell. Everyone involved was white. If she had been a 15 stone girl she may have needed a punch in the face to ensure the upper hand before being disarmed.

    Replies: @StevenotSailer, @Redman, @res

    “Caregivers” probably do have experiences to share about all sorts of crazy things. But what is the relevance of that when analyzing the “reasonably prudent police officer”?

    The point is that the NYT writer is trying to squeeze the last drops from this dish rag of a news story to support the BLM/woke narrative. This story is pretty much dead. And will be by the coming week.

  138. @Kibernetika
    It's disorienting to live in a culture that's so prosperous, the elite have the mental energy (such as it is) and leisure to indulge in these increasingly bizarre, often delusional causes. Talk about privilege.

    It goes without saying that our competitors welcome and exploit the current madness. We make it so easy for them. Our universities educate and employ them; our corporations employ them. The most difficult task our rivals have these days is not determining what our weaknesses are, but rather how to most effectively exploit them.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    It’s disorienting to live in a culture that’s so prosperous, the elite have the mental energy (such as it is) and leisure to indulge in these increasingly bizarre, often delusional causes. Talk about privilege.

    When I first read this, I read it this way:

    It’s disorienting to live in a culture that’s so prepostererous, the elite have the mental energy (such as it is) and leisure to indulge in these increasingly bizarre, often delusional causes. Talk about privilege.

  139. @Jackbnimbl
    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Ed Case, @Paperback Writer, @res

    Who do they kill?

  140. @ScarletNumber
    @william munny

    She aged a lot in those 10 years between 60 and 70. She was brilliant as that cold, calculating, narcissistic Italian mother, yet she won her Emmys for being Lou Grant's boss.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    She was also, early in her career, the original plain-Jane girlfriend in the live TV broadcast of Paddy Chayefsky’s Marty in 1953, opposite Rod Steiger as Marty. This was two years before the movie. Well worth seeking out–in some ways it’s better than the film (which is also quite good).

  141. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @bro3886
    @Change that Matters

    Every article by an Indian "journalist" should come with a statement that they came to America to live as parasites on white culture and the white population, they sure as hell didn't move to Ethiopia. And that they almost always burn with hatred against the native population common to racist colonialists.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    One would have thought that Idi Amin, Kenyatta and the revolt in Zanzibar would have taught Indians a thing or two ….

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    Dude, that's history book stuff. Nobody who is hip in the Current Year cares about it.

    "The only thing we learn from history is that history is boring stuff that's hard to learn".

  142. @Anonymous

    Officer Nick “O’Time” Reardon’s white coolness in making the right decision amidst black violent chaos
     
    Nicely put, Steve.

    Replies: @David In TN, @RonaldB

    In Officer Reardon’s “white coolness in making the right decision,” he was channeling Alvin C. York and Audie Murphy.

  143. Way back 30 odd years ago, in my high school of 600 students we only had about 5 black girls in the student body. Two were fairly “White” coming from intact families, their fathers were professionals. The two made good grades and dressed “white”. Two of the others were “ghetto”. I only remember one girl fight happening in my four years of high school. Of course it was the two ghetto black girls fighting over the affections of one of the three black guys at the school. It lasted five minutes and ranged from one end of the hallway to the other. One was short and fat, she straightened her hair. The other was about a foot taller and had a small afro. The short one started pulling hair and there were clumps of afro along the entire length of the hall.

  144. @Anonymous

    Officer Nick “O’Time” Reardon’s white coolness in making the right decision amidst black violent chaos
     
    Nicely put, Steve.

    Replies: @David In TN, @RonaldB

    It’s obvious that all the fuzzy rationalizations are a means of trying to find some charge that will stick on officer Reardon. They want to charge him with murder but the optics are too blatant that the shooting was justified. So, they’ll toss meaningful but pithy-sounding generalizations around for a few weeks, or until the next shooting of a black man resisting arrest. Now, imagine if he had shot a black girl attacking a white girl instead of a black girl attacking a black girl. The riots would begin immediately, and there would be no worry that the story would gain traction. Hannity, in covering the incident, took special care to emphasize with every sentence “He saved a black girl.” Heaven forbid someone saves a white girl.

  145. @Zoos

    “Ma’Khia Bryant was a child.”
    — Brittany Cooper, the author of “Eloquent Rage”
     
    Anyone notice the size of MaKilla?

    She wasn’t just fat. She was BIG.

    She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem.

    I think the NYT should update their shitty style book by, as a rule, opting to refrain from referring to anyone as a "child" past puberty.

    In MaKilla's case, "teen hulk" would be an accurate descriptive.

    Replies: @donut, @CCZ, @AndrewR

    To the extent most black people (including Cooper) are mentally children, she’s not wrong. There’s a reason that, until like 60 years ago, no one really believed that blacks and whites could ever live as equals.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @CCZ
    @AndrewR

    Sadly, Ms. ("Professor Crunk") Cooper's "childishness" is partially underwritten by New Jersey taxpayers, as she is a $112,000 a year Associate Professor of Women's and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers University. She also writes "a top race blog" as voted by "The Root - The Blacker the Content the Sweeter the Truth."

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

  146. This melancholy Sunday morning, just 3 days after her tragic death, there is
    comfort and consolation for all of us in knowing that Ma’Khia is now seated
    at the right hand of George Floyd.

  147. @Erik Sieven
    I would guess the average author such a NYT article has never in his or her life spent at least 10 minutes in the same room with a person like the young women who got shot. Also I guess the average NYT reporter would actively avoid such a situation.

    Replies: @David In TN

    They do everything possible in their living patterns to avoid “a person like the young women who got shot.”

  148. @ThreeCranes
    @Peterike

    That's what I've distilled years of reading and commenting here down to. The other side of the "adultificatioin" coin is the "infantilization" of all minorities.

    Now that women and womanly men run our society and report our news, every minority person is to be regarded and treated as an infant in day care.

    There it is distilled down to one sentence.

    Straight White men are abhorrent because they don't bring the needed sensitivity and tenderness to bear upon the problems faced by these helpless infants. Instead they bring the Reality Principles of autonomy, objectivity, responsibility and competence i.e. "adultification" to the table. These are poisons to the fantasy world created and sustained by the women who run the daycare agency that our society has become.

    Gay men are okay both because they are fellow "victims" and because they are especially sensitive, non-judgmental and nurturing (supposedly). Gay men are non-threatening. (Most women have no clue as to the brutal nature of gay sex nor to the predatory behavior of gay men towards random men they encounter when on the prowl.)

    As in olden days, women's input should largely be restricted to educating children from the forth grade down. There are some exceptions and we should allow for this, but in the main, women have no interest in adopting a neutral, objective perspective. They should be tested and if they show no capacity for such thinking, then, fine, let them run the daycares and educate infants. Affirmative action is responsible for this mess. Standardized testing would quickly sort it out. Juries too should be selected by testing.

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    Now that women and womanly men run our society and report our news, every minority person is to be regarded and treated as an infant in day care.

    Not just minorities

  149. Perhaps the officer responding should have tried to contact Dr. Jane Goodall for assistance…….

  150. Who hasn’t disarmed a homicidal girl with a melee weapon??

    Most would feel confident of their ability to do so by shooting her in the back from a couple of yards away although not with the textbook stance and good trigger control of Quadruple Tap Reardon, but to answer your question, my feeling would be apparently homicidal persons threateningly advancing on others have had knives taken off them a lot especially if they are females. I would point out that Pinkie who certainly knew that Bryant had a knife rushed to blindside Bryant.

    Had there ever been a 16 years’ old girl deliberately shot dead by a police officer in the US before Bryant? The following is a statistical plausibility argument that may require a little more than the usual attention. What are the odds that this historical outlier or standing alone in a subclass of one occurrence having happened in a year when police shootings have been extremely low in number would be a perfect one that shines like a diamond?

    I would note that Reardon said immediately before opening fire “Hey! Hey! Get Down, Get Down”, and immediately afterwards his explanation was “She had a knife”. He was within his rights, but it was a safe-from-his-point-of-view solution rather than anything admirable.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Sean

    Most would feel confident of their ability to do so by shooting her in the back from a couple of yards away

    Then we could take those people to a pistol range, set up a simplified version of the situation and have them actually try, while on video. The results would be edifying.

    Or even just set up a FATS simulator.

    my feeling would be apparently homicidal persons threateningly advancing on others have had knives taken off them a lot especially if they are females.

    Your feeling would be non-relevant, since you have no evidence to offer.

    Replies: @Sean

  151. @James Forrestal

    They have adultified her
     

    Let’s start with adultification bias.
     
    OK, let's. "Adultify" and "adultification" [the latter almost always followed by "bias"] appear 8x in the excerpts that Mr. Sailer quotes; 10x in the original article. Almost as bad as reading one of those "misdisinformation" rants. Language frames the narrative -- when they try that hard to beat you over the head with a particular neologism, it must have an important narrative purpose.

    Looks like this is the main point: "It’s not necessarily either/or on the adultification bias or racialized violence, but the adultification is informed by the history of racialized violence." So it looks as if this "adultifinicating" process is a direct cause of "racialized violence -- i.e. makes Evil Whitey shoot innocent Blacks for no reason. According to this Gupta pajeet and the Sulzberger Blog, anyway.

    Just one minor problem. 4th paragraph of the NYT's screed:

    As the officer gets out of his vehicle, Ms. Bryant is seen lunging at a woman with what appears to be a knife in her hand. Then, seconds later, in the frenzy and chaos, she lunges at another woman.
     
    Wait a minute... just how old were the females that the stabber attacked? Could there perhaps be some subcontinentally-perpetrated adultinizing going on here? Let's see what the Daily Fail has to say:

    "Ma'Khia Bryant's foster mother has revealed the 16-year-old and two other girls had a brawl over a messy house and an unmade bed before the teen was shot dead by police.
    Angela Moore said two of her former foster children came to Columbus, Ohio, on Tuesday for her birthday when the argument between the youngsters broke out."

    Obvious adultifornication is obvious. Which obviously means... racialized violence! Unwarranted violent oppression of GOCs [Girls of Color] by Gupta supremacist imperialists! This Gupta is perpetrating exactly the same sort of adultificatory assault on innocent girls that she accuses others of! And her attack is even worse! Because she's adultifinying two GOCs!

    Very problematic in the current year. It's like an double adultificide, or something.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Good catch.

  152. An assailant with a knife even against a gun is still incredibly dangerous. People can cover ground very quickly and deal out a fatal blow. People watch too many movies and assume a gun is like a ray gun that one bullet will instantly incapacitate them (just shoot them in the leg!). Reality is a lot harder.

  153. @Mr. Anon
    @ScarletNumber

    In today's Clown-World World, it's hard to imagine that the answer to the question "Who should we get to play the mayor of San Francisco?" would be: John Vernon.

    If I lived in San Francisco, and John Vernon was on the ballot..............I'd vote for him. Frisco could do a lot worse. And has.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon

    Vernon tried to pivot a bit after his success in Animal House, but he never achieved the level of Leslie Nielsen.

  154. @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Go ahead and try leading your wife; you’ll end up in jail.
     
    Of the eight most populous states, only Texas and Ohio have had female governors. Texas is a weak-governor state. Ohio's sole lady governor served eleven days as a placeholder..

    Americans will let women govern, but not govern a lot of Americans.

    Replies: @anon, @ScarletNumber

    Of the eight most populous states, only Texas and Ohio have had female governors.

    As per the last official census, Michigan was the 8th-most populous state.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @ScarletNumber

    And with today's announcement, Michigan has now fallen to 10th behind Georgia and North Carolina, making Reg Cæsar's post officially correct.

  155. @Bill P
    I grew up around a lot of blacks, and have seen a few fairly extreme examples of black girl-on-girl violence. One that I remember particularly vividly involved a couple of girls beating another one with a tree branch that was about as thick as a baseball bat.

    Most violent episodes revolved around sexual competition. Usually the pretty one got the worst of it. I wouldn't be surprised if this was behind the big girl going after the girl in pink with a knife.

    It is indeed a major cultural difference. Nobody would have much sympathy for a big, hefty white girl physically assaulting a much prettier romantic rival. Especially not progressive, elite whites. Honestly, I don't think black Africans would think too highly of it, either. It's a very strange sexual inversion unique to American black culture.

    If white progressive women knew what was good for them, they wouldn't encourage this. If it's normalized, the skinny, progressive, yoga pants ladies shopping at Whole Foods are going to be in trouble. Most of us white guys aren't going to step in on their behalf like Nick Reardon did.

    It's kind of like the trans thing. White ladies just keep shooting themselves in the foot, and what do they do? They scream at and attack their men, because they don't know what else to do. It's sad.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @ThreeCranes, @ScarletNumber

    I don’t think black Africans would think too highly of it, either. It’s a very strange sexual inversion unique to American black culture

    I don’t think black Africans think too highly of African-Americans generally speaking

  156. @Rob McX
    Short version: White man, they hate you and want you dead.

    Whites are trapped in a situation that would in other circumstances be classed as some kind of psychological torture. If they try to protect themselves from blacks, they're doomed. If they're charged with protecting blacks from each other, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. There is no course of action they can take that will prevent people like Gupta from stoking up the hatred against them.

    Until last year, there might have been some hope of resolving these problems in the existing political framework. Not any more. Short of separating themselves entirely and forming their own nations, whites can't do anything to fix the problem.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Very true, only it’s been that way for more than 50 years now. Whites are now–finally– confronting this (or, more accurately are being forced to confront this). I think video and the Internet have contributed to this, in a good way, as has the yuuuge decline that America has had in the past 50 years, due largely to these same people. We’re close to endgame kicking off. Whether we stay stalled for a while is the question, but we’re on the 5 yard line.

  157. @Anon

    According to a 2017 report by the Georgetown Law Center on Poverty and Inequality.

    The report found that Black girls as young as 5 years old are held to adultlike standards and, in turn, receive harsher punishments for their behavior: Black girls are more likely to be suspended or arrested at school than their white peers
     

    Here's the report:

    https://www.law.georgetown.edu/poverty-inequality-center/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2017/08/girlhood-interrupted.pdf

    https://www.law.georgetown.edu/news/black-girls-viewed-as-less-innocent-than-white-girls-georgetown-law-research-finds-2/

    Here are some findings from the report:


    “This new evidence of what we call the ‘adultification’ of black girls may help explain why black girls in America are disciplined much more often and more severely than white girls – across our schools and in our juvenile justice system,” said Epstein.

    The new report reveals that adults think:

    - Black girls seem older than white girls of the same age.
    - Black girls need less nurturing than white girls.
    - Black girls need less protection than white girls.
    - Black girls need to be supported less than white girls.
    - Black girls need to be comforted less than white girls.
    - Black girls are more independent than white girls.
    - Black girls know more about adult topics than white girls.
    - Black girls know more about sex than white girls.
     

    Numbers 2 through 5 are restatements of the same thing, and are fuzzy qualitative opinions, so let's skip those.

    Numbers 1 and 6 simply express the fact that blacks mature faster than whites or Asians, including but not limited to physical size. This is not controversial among researchers. These findings are based on measuring stuff scientifically.

    Numbers 7 and 8 seem to be about black girls maturing faster specifically in the area of sex, which again is not controversial. Menarche is 9 to 12 months earlier than white girls (up to two years earlier than Asian girls), first sexual experience a year earlier, and first pregnancy a year earlier. This is true in the U.S., in the Carribean, in black-governed countries in Africa as well as Haiti, and in urban and rural settings. It's a well-established finding.

    Anyway, the whole reason that this topic of "black girls are unfairly felt to be adultish" is a thing these days is that it's considered an effective new tactic to use against the problem that black girl students are disciplined more, suspended more, referred to the police more, charged more frequently with a crime, less likely to have their criminal charges dismissed or pled down, and so on.

    All this is because everyone sees black girls as adults. It has nothing to do with their behavior. The only explanation to differential treatment is that the racist whitey hegemonic patriarchy of white supremacy is out to destroy our beautiful, knife-wielding, TikTokCute black girly-girls.

    Replies: @cityview, @Forbes

    In other words, adults are treating/responding to black girls based on conduct, behavior, appearance (seem older), not based on precise chronological age.

    What adults think is not the relevant category. It would be an unusual school or school district that didn’t know the age and grade of the student when discipline was imposed.

    may help explain why black girls in America are disciplined much more often and more severely than white girls

    Why? School discipline would be based on conduct and behavior. More often? Frequency of conduct and behavior would be the first clue.

  158. @Jackbnimbl
    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years

    Replies: @Alden, @Anonymous, @Ed Case, @Paperback Writer, @res

    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years

    The data are not presented in a way which makes this comparison easy, but page 14 (Figures 22a-d) of this document
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
    has statistics by age/sex/race from 1980-2008 which seem to indicate this was true from about 1980 to the early 1990s.

    It is harder to find recent data like this though.

    One interesting point is that black women had the largest decrease in homicide offending rates between 1980 and 2008.

    • Replies: @Firstdown 111
    @res

    Thanks for posting that, the stupid FBI and DOJ hide any bad black stats now

    , @Jackbnimbl
    @res

    Thanks for posting. Very hard to find stats anymore

    Replies: @res

  159. @Anonymous
    @Jackbnimbl


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable .
     
    Citation needed. Implausible.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Jackbnimbl, @res

    What makes it implausible? Your religious beliefs? Take a look at my comment above. It appears no longer to be true (though hard to verify since the Obama-era gutting of race based crime statistics), but the data I see indicates it was true from 1980 into the early 1990s.

  160. @Hector Ramon
    When caregivers say they have have experience in disarming armed girls there may be some truth in what they are saying. Many years ago at a party at our flat I disarmed a 15 year old girl armed with a large kitchen knife. The girl in question had taken exception to what one of the other 15 year old girls had said to her and sought out our cutlery drawer to arm herself and seek revenge. When I confronted the armed girl I had to make a call: was she full of shit and an ineffectual knife wielder, or was she a real threat? I decided that she was full of shit and took the knife off her (and hid the cutlery drawer) without any problems. It helped that she was a small girl who didn't look like she knew what she was doing and I knew all our knives were blunt as hell. Everyone involved was white. If she had been a 15 stone girl she may have needed a punch in the face to ensure the upper hand before being disarmed.

    Replies: @StevenotSailer, @Redman, @res

    Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @res

    > Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D., who stated:


    All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.
     
    Doctor Professor Morris is not some random with an opinion, she is an established authority on the issues of foster care professionals' core competencies in disarming girls in the midst of a knife fight.

    To drive home that point, after "MORE" I have listed the education and employment history that Doctor Professor Morris posts on LinkedIn. You can see that every one of her dozen experiences since college is directly relevant to how the Knife Girl encounter should have been managed. She is the exact opposite of an Ivory Tower grifter and know-it-all.

    Ms. Gupta's interview of Doctor Professor Morris effectively skewers Officer Reardon by highlighting his failures. Before going to press should, Ms. Gupta or her editors have briefly wondered whether Doctor Professor Morris knows what she's talking about? Obviously not!

    San Francisco University High School
    1990-94 - Columbia University, B.A.
    1994-96 - Columbia University, M.S. in Urban Planning
    2001-21 - Author
    2005-07 - Director, Discrimination Research Center
    2007-08 - VP, NAACP
    2010-13 - Consultant specializing in fairness, diversity, and inclusion
    2012-13 - Soros Justice Fellow, Open Society Foundation
    2012-18 - Adjunct Faculty, St. Mary's College
    2013 - Fielding University, Ed.D. Dissertation: "Conceptualizing a Culturally Competent and Gender-Responsive Learning Environment for Northern California Black Girls in Confinement"
    2014 - Adjunct Faculty, CSU Sacramento
    2014-15 - Adjunct Faculty, UCSF
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    Replies: @AnotherDad, @res, @ThreeCranes

  161. @Joe S.Walker
    There seems to have been remarkably little coverage of the guy who joined Knife Girl in chasing her first target, and who kicked that girl's head as if he was making a good try at killing her. Who is he, and what did he have to do with it? What, indeed, was the whole scene about? Why isn't the New York Times explaining that instead of publishing nonsense?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Firstdown 111, @Dutch Fagan

    I noticed that too, very strange. Who was that guy? He was part of it, with knife girl.

  162. @res
    @Jackbnimbl


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years
     
    The data are not presented in a way which makes this comparison easy, but page 14 (Figures 22a-d) of this document
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
    has statistics by age/sex/race from 1980-2008 which seem to indicate this was true from about 1980 to the early 1990s.

    It is harder to find recent data like this though.

    One interesting point is that black women had the largest decrease in homicide offending rates between 1980 and 2008.

    Replies: @Firstdown 111, @Jackbnimbl

    Thanks for posting that, the stupid FBI and DOJ hide any bad black stats now

  163. @Change that Matters
    Every article by an Indian journalist should come with a 'transparency statement' disclosing the full extent to which they and their families have benefited from the caste system.

    Also, this: "All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone."

    Can someone please provide videos of this happening. In the Insta-TT era, there must be at least one, right?

    Replies: @Polistra, @bro3886, @CCZ

    Black “girls” fight, black “girl” wields knife (knife at :45 in video, but whole video is “enlightening”), no white police, (not even social workers), lots of black folks, and no one killed. See, the solution is so simple. Just leave them to themselves!!!!

  164. @Mr. Anon
    @ScarletNumber

    In today's Clown-World World, it's hard to imagine that the answer to the question "Who should we get to play the mayor of San Francisco?" would be: John Vernon.

    If I lived in San Francisco, and John Vernon was on the ballot..............I'd vote for him. Frisco could do a lot worse. And has.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon

    John Vernon.

    No.

    1. He’s dead, Jim.
    2. He’s too good for them.

    Scorpio for Mayor. It’s what they deserve.

  165. @Abolish_public_education
    Black girls are more likely to be suspended or arrested at school than their white peers .. often for minor infractions, like using their cellphones

    I just did a search and found out that such anti-free speech regulations are not unusual. California even has a law that allows districts to enforce such policies (“except during emergencies”).

    It’s really something how kids get drafted into horrible, often physically dangerous public schools, and then are ordered to shut up when they’re inside. The districts don’t want the kids recording what goes on in their miserable classrooms (and then uploading the embarrassing video into the public domain); teachers should be required to wear body cams, anyhow.

    When police get called to a school and end up arresting one of its students, the cause rarely involves (common, physical) bullying or even a (not so uncommon) loaded gun in a backpack. It happens when a kid KOs a teacher, or when a six year old boy uses his thumb and index finger to symbolize pointing a gun, i.e. terrorism.

    Replies: @unit472

    School buses are required to have video cams on them so, on occasion we get to see fights and bullying taking place. Why what goes on in public schools is hidden is something of a mystery. You’d think parents would want to see the evidence if their child is suspended or claims to been assaulted or bullied. Obviously school administrators would prefer to not have the public see how horribly run these institutions are but it would be real eye opener if people could see what they are getting for their tax dollars.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @unit472

    Otherwise clueless parents, who audited their kids’ Zoom classes, must have come away pretty astonished.

  166. Having come out of the house knife in hand, had she killed Pinky, it would have been murder in the first degree. Reardon didn’t stop manslaughter; he stopped first degree murder.

  167. @res
    @Hector Ramon

    Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    Replies: @ic1000

    > Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D., who stated:

    All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.

    Doctor Professor Morris is not some random with an opinion, she is an established authority on the issues of foster care professionals’ core competencies in disarming girls in the midst of a knife fight.

    To drive home that point, after “MORE” I have listed the education and employment history that Doctor Professor Morris posts on LinkedIn. You can see that every one of her dozen experiences since college is directly relevant to how the Knife Girl encounter should have been managed. She is the exact opposite of an Ivory Tower grifter and know-it-all.

    Ms. Gupta’s interview of Doctor Professor Morris effectively skewers Officer Reardon by highlighting his failures. Before going to press should, Ms. Gupta or her editors have briefly wondered whether Doctor Professor Morris knows what she’s talking about? Obviously not!

    [MORE]

    San Francisco University High School
    1990-94 – Columbia University, B.A.
    1994-96 – Columbia University, M.S. in Urban Planning
    2001-21 – Author
    2005-07 – Director, Discrimination Research Center
    2007-08 – VP, NAACP
    2010-13 – Consultant specializing in fairness, diversity, and inclusion
    2012-13 – Soros Justice Fellow, Open Society Foundation
    2012-18 – Adjunct Faculty, St. Mary’s College
    2013 – Fielding University, Ed.D. Dissertation: “Conceptualizing a Culturally Competent and Gender-Responsive Learning Environment for Northern California Black Girls in Confinement”
    2014 – Adjunct Faculty, CSU Sacramento
    2014-15 – Adjunct Faculty, UCSF
    2014-18 – Co-Founder and President, National Black Women’s Justice Institute
    2020-21 – Executive Director, Grantmakers for Girls of Color

    • LOL: James Forrestal
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @ic1000

    "Separate nations"

    and

    "Go bake cookies"

    pretty much cover it.

    , @res
    @ic1000


    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D.,
    ...

     

    That's sarcasm, right? Sorry, but there is so much disingenuous trolling here my sarcasm detector is having trouble.

    If it's not sarcasm, please elaborate. Because I would be very interested in even a single example of one of those people being able to stop a knife attack in progress. Especially at the same range as Reardon was.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000

    , @ThreeCranes
    @ic1000

    Wow! She's put in a lot of hours training. Can't wait to see her in the Octagon.

  168. @Almost Missouri

    NYT: We Are Not Going to Let Knife Girl Go
     
    Toldya.

    I wish it were otherwise, but it ain't.

    Anti-whiteness is the whole of the law now. The rest is commentary.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Anti-whiteness is the whole of the law now. The rest is commentary.

    Agree.

    The root of all the evil here is minoritarianism: Evil white flyover gentile oppressors must be crushed; immigrated and integrated and beaten and taxed and stolen from until they can’t hurt us poor oppressed minorities no more. Same shit we’ve got for 50+ now.

    But there does seem to be a particular–turbo charging–element here, female emotionalism:

    JB: For me as a mother — I have a 16-year-old — whenever videos of these incidents come out, I wait a significant amount of time to watch it because I don’t want to see the loss of life of another young Black person for something senseless. It really tears away at your soul.

    Hey the contemporary world is pissing me off as well. And with much more reason–something really has been stolen from me. (Blacks keep getting more and more stuff … just never enough.)

    But while the whole thing pisses me off, i do not have some sort of little soul tearing moment at:
    — every phony hate crime,
    — another Stalinist show trial verdict,
    — the latest Hollyweird anti-white propaganda piece,
    — another academia Maoist outrage
    — the latest Bret Stephens’–or other media Jew’s–piece pissing on white working and middle class people and gloating about their replacement
    — more anti-white nonsense from Biden or Pelosi or Chucky Schumer

    Yeah, i hate these people with ever fiber of my being and badly, badly, badly want to get myself and my family out from under–and as far away–from them as i can; back to some sort of “America”.

    But i’m not turning each incident into my own personal soul tearing drama.

    A lot of women just don’t seem to be designed for hearing about “the world”. Those intense emotional reactions are there for … your stuff. What you actually see. Your family.

  169. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Runnin' Reg, since you've had to White Flight so many times to stay segregated, I was wondering if you pack light as a matter of practice?

    https://www.breizh-info.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/white-flight.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    This is getting old, Corv.

  170. @ic1000
    @res

    > Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D., who stated:


    All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.
     
    Doctor Professor Morris is not some random with an opinion, she is an established authority on the issues of foster care professionals' core competencies in disarming girls in the midst of a knife fight.

    To drive home that point, after "MORE" I have listed the education and employment history that Doctor Professor Morris posts on LinkedIn. You can see that every one of her dozen experiences since college is directly relevant to how the Knife Girl encounter should have been managed. She is the exact opposite of an Ivory Tower grifter and know-it-all.

    Ms. Gupta's interview of Doctor Professor Morris effectively skewers Officer Reardon by highlighting his failures. Before going to press should, Ms. Gupta or her editors have briefly wondered whether Doctor Professor Morris knows what she's talking about? Obviously not!

    San Francisco University High School
    1990-94 - Columbia University, B.A.
    1994-96 - Columbia University, M.S. in Urban Planning
    2001-21 - Author
    2005-07 - Director, Discrimination Research Center
    2007-08 - VP, NAACP
    2010-13 - Consultant specializing in fairness, diversity, and inclusion
    2012-13 - Soros Justice Fellow, Open Society Foundation
    2012-18 - Adjunct Faculty, St. Mary's College
    2013 - Fielding University, Ed.D. Dissertation: "Conceptualizing a Culturally Competent and Gender-Responsive Learning Environment for Northern California Black Girls in Confinement"
    2014 - Adjunct Faculty, CSU Sacramento
    2014-15 - Adjunct Faculty, UCSF
    2014-18 - Co-Founder and President, National Black Women's Justice Institute
    2020-21 - Executive Director, Grantmakers for Girls of Color

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @res, @ThreeCranes

    “Separate nations”

    and

    “Go bake cookies”

    pretty much cover it.

  171. @ThreeCranes
    @AceDeuce

    Good people are like Border Collies, biddable. Once they get the general principle, Border Collies only need to be given an indication. They won't tolerate being treated roughly, won't put up with a low-class master. They insist that their master be at least as intelligent and well mannered as they are.

    I recall once approaching a friend's house and cutting across his lawn. My Border Collie literally turned and gave me "the look" as she followed the sidewalk up to his front door as if to say, "What in the hell do you think you're doing?"

    Replies: @David In TN

    I have a mixed breed Border Collie and that’s how she is.

  172. @res
    @Jackbnimbl


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable . Not sure if this still holds true but it was the case for years
     
    The data are not presented in a way which makes this comparison easy, but page 14 (Figures 22a-d) of this document
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
    has statistics by age/sex/race from 1980-2008 which seem to indicate this was true from about 1980 to the early 1990s.

    It is harder to find recent data like this though.

    One interesting point is that black women had the largest decrease in homicide offending rates between 1980 and 2008.

    Replies: @Firstdown 111, @Jackbnimbl

    Thanks for posting. Very hard to find stats anymore

    • Replies: @res
    @Jackbnimbl

    You (and Firstdown 111) are welcome. If you like statistics like that you might want to check out this comment about the NCVS historical data.
    https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/?showcomments#comment-4206835

    A bit more discussion here.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/merry-christmas-6/#comment-4371872

  173. @El Dato
    CNN: We are not letting Chauvin go.

    CNN looks deep into Derek Chauvin’s EYES to keep George Floyd story alive

    Revealing another chapter in the Protocol of the Elders of Whiteness.

    Also, those courtrooom sketches are hideous and tendentious.

    The narrative, promulgated at once by activists, politicians, journalists and corporations, was that the verdict was just the beginning, and that the nation (or rather its white population) still had to “do the work” to uproot and eradicate racism for good.

    For CNN, doing this “work” involved looking into Chauvin’s soul through his eyes. In a piece of ‘analysis’ published on Saturday, writer John Blake looked into Chauvin’s eyes and saw “something worse than hate” – “indifference.”
     

    To Blake, a freeze-framed image of Chauvin looking nonchalant as he knelt on Floyd’s back “tells a story about racism that many people don't want to hear.” The killer cop’s lack of interest, the argument goes, makes him more racist than if he had screamed epithets into Floyd’s ear.

    “Violent acts of White racism grab the headlines,” Blake wrote. “But the most pervasive forms of racism take root when White judges, cops, politicians and ordinary people look the other way to not see what is happening right in front of their faces.”
     

    A CNN director straight-up admitted this month that the network sees itself as allied with the BLM cause, and pushes stories of white-on-black violence because – direct quote – viewers “lap it up.”

     


    Chauvin was a ratings hit, just like Floyd’s death last year propelled CNN’s ratings to their highest level in 40 years.
     
    https://twitter.com/SophNar0747/status/1385986747352289282

    Replies: @Sollipsist

    So by that logic, CNN believes it will be a sign of progress if we see cops kill with more hate in their eyes…

  174. @StevenotSailer
    @Hector Ramon

    Did you even bother to watch the video? The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie's gut. There wasn't enough time to say anything to discourage the attack; it was either shoot and drop the assailant or not shoot and watch pinkie get the shiv in her gut. Next time, speak from a place of reality. Otherwise, step away from your keyboard and let the grownups discuss.

    Replies: @James Forrestal, @Hector Ramon

    The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie’s gut.

    Yeah, no kidding. Screaming “I’m gonna stab the fuck out of you, bitch!” immediately prior to the attack sounds a little more like murderous intent that mere hysteria/ posturing, too.

    I mean, look at that — she’s stepping into it with a big windup, hand low, ready to pivot her upper body into the strike and rip upward.

    As her co-ethnics would say, she ain’t playin’.

  175. @ic1000
    @res

    > Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D., who stated:


    All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.
     
    Doctor Professor Morris is not some random with an opinion, she is an established authority on the issues of foster care professionals' core competencies in disarming girls in the midst of a knife fight.

    To drive home that point, after "MORE" I have listed the education and employment history that Doctor Professor Morris posts on LinkedIn. You can see that every one of her dozen experiences since college is directly relevant to how the Knife Girl encounter should have been managed. She is the exact opposite of an Ivory Tower grifter and know-it-all.

    Ms. Gupta's interview of Doctor Professor Morris effectively skewers Officer Reardon by highlighting his failures. Before going to press should, Ms. Gupta or her editors have briefly wondered whether Doctor Professor Morris knows what she's talking about? Obviously not!

    San Francisco University High School
    1990-94 - Columbia University, B.A.
    1994-96 - Columbia University, M.S. in Urban Planning
    2001-21 - Author
    2005-07 - Director, Discrimination Research Center
    2007-08 - VP, NAACP
    2010-13 - Consultant specializing in fairness, diversity, and inclusion
    2012-13 - Soros Justice Fellow, Open Society Foundation
    2012-18 - Adjunct Faculty, St. Mary's College
    2013 - Fielding University, Ed.D. Dissertation: "Conceptualizing a Culturally Competent and Gender-Responsive Learning Environment for Northern California Black Girls in Confinement"
    2014 - Adjunct Faculty, CSU Sacramento
    2014-15 - Adjunct Faculty, UCSF
    2014-18 - Co-Founder and President, National Black Women's Justice Institute
    2020-21 - Executive Director, Grantmakers for Girls of Color

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @res, @ThreeCranes

    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D.,

    That’s sarcasm, right? Sorry, but there is so much disingenuous trolling here my sarcasm detector is having trouble.

    If it’s not sarcasm, please elaborate. Because I would be very interested in even a single example of one of those people being able to stop a knife attack in progress. Especially at the same range as Reardon was.

    • Replies: @anon
    @res

    That’s sarcasm, right?

    Obviously so. Peek below the MORE and see. For a start, her CV is somewhat lacking in SEAL-level close-quarter combat training.

    ...my sarcasm detector is having trouble

    Needs recalibration, that's all. Nothing serious. Maybe a break from Teh AlGore Webz for a day or two?

    , @ic1000
    @res

    > That’s sarcasm, right?

    Right. There is literally nothing in the professional experience of Doctor (Adjunct) Professor Monique W. Morris Ed.D. to suggest that she knows more about de-escalating girlish knife fights than does any other fan of Law & Order. Reporterette Gupta could have gotten better insights, had she dropped by 'Cheers' during Happy Hour to interview Norm.*

    Yet her editor at the New York Times gave a green light to this rubbish. The publisher published it.

    .
    * a fictional barfly

    Replies: @anon

  176. @ic1000
    @res

    > Perhaps, but those people (and you as well?) seem unable to recognize the difference between someone holding a knife and someone actively attacking with it.

    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D., who stated:


    All the foster care professionals and others who work with girls who I’ve spoken to have said that they, as non-police officers, have been able to disarm girls with a knife engaged in a fight without shooting someone.
     
    Doctor Professor Morris is not some random with an opinion, she is an established authority on the issues of foster care professionals' core competencies in disarming girls in the midst of a knife fight.

    To drive home that point, after "MORE" I have listed the education and employment history that Doctor Professor Morris posts on LinkedIn. You can see that every one of her dozen experiences since college is directly relevant to how the Knife Girl encounter should have been managed. She is the exact opposite of an Ivory Tower grifter and know-it-all.

    Ms. Gupta's interview of Doctor Professor Morris effectively skewers Officer Reardon by highlighting his failures. Before going to press should, Ms. Gupta or her editors have briefly wondered whether Doctor Professor Morris knows what she's talking about? Obviously not!

    San Francisco University High School
    1990-94 - Columbia University, B.A.
    1994-96 - Columbia University, M.S. in Urban Planning
    2001-21 - Author
    2005-07 - Director, Discrimination Research Center
    2007-08 - VP, NAACP
    2010-13 - Consultant specializing in fairness, diversity, and inclusion
    2012-13 - Soros Justice Fellow, Open Society Foundation
    2012-18 - Adjunct Faculty, St. Mary's College
    2013 - Fielding University, Ed.D. Dissertation: "Conceptualizing a Culturally Competent and Gender-Responsive Learning Environment for Northern California Black Girls in Confinement"
    2014 - Adjunct Faculty, CSU Sacramento
    2014-15 - Adjunct Faculty, UCSF
    2014-18 - Co-Founder and President, National Black Women's Justice Institute
    2020-21 - Executive Director, Grantmakers for Girls of Color

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @res, @ThreeCranes

    Wow! She’s put in a lot of hours training. Can’t wait to see her in the Octagon.

    • Agree: ic1000
  177. @AndrewR
    @Zoos

    To the extent most black people (including Cooper) are mentally children, she's not wrong. There's a reason that, until like 60 years ago, no one really believed that blacks and whites could ever live as equals.

    Replies: @CCZ

    Sadly, Ms. (“Professor Crunk”) Cooper’s “childishness” is partially underwritten by New Jersey taxpayers, as she is a $112,000 a year Associate Professor of Women’s and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers University. She also writes “a top race blog” as voted by “The Root – The Blacker the Content the Sweeter the Truth.”

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @CCZ

    As a New Jersey resident, I must report another egregious story from Rutgers' Camden campus:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/rutgers-students-now-receive-trigger-warnings-greek-roman-literature-history/

    This guy appears to be from Australia. However, I particularly loved the response this crap elicited from a student. Read the story to see what this student said.

    I used to work on this campus in the law school library. Wow.

  178. @unit472
    @Abolish_public_education

    School buses are required to have video cams on them so, on occasion we get to see fights and bullying taking place. Why what goes on in public schools is hidden is something of a mystery. You'd think parents would want to see the evidence if their child is suspended or claims to been assaulted or bullied. Obviously school administrators would prefer to not have the public see how horribly run these institutions are but it would be real eye opener if people could see what they are getting for their tax dollars.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    Otherwise clueless parents, who audited their kids’ Zoom classes, must have come away pretty astonished.

  179. @Anonymous
    @bro3886

    One would have thought that Idi Amin, Kenyatta and the revolt in Zanzibar would have taught Indians a thing or two ....

    Replies: @anon

    Dude, that’s history book stuff. Nobody who is hip in the Current Year cares about it.

    “The only thing we learn from history is that history is boring stuff that’s hard to learn”.

  180. anon[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Who hasn’t disarmed a homicidal girl with a melee weapon??
     
    Most would feel confident of their ability to do so by shooting her in the back from a couple of yards away although not with the textbook stance and good trigger control of Quadruple Tap Reardon, but to answer your question, my feeling would be apparently homicidal persons threateningly advancing on others have had knives taken off them a lot especially if they are females. I would point out that Pinkie who certainly knew that Bryant had a knife rushed to blindside Bryant.

    Had there ever been a 16 years' old girl deliberately shot dead by a police officer in the US before Bryant? The following is a statistical plausibility argument that may require a little more than the usual attention. What are the odds that this historical outlier or standing alone in a subclass of one occurrence having happened in a year when police shootings have been extremely low in number would be a perfect one that shines like a diamond?

    I would note that Reardon said immediately before opening fire "Hey! Hey! Get Down, Get Down", and immediately afterwards his explanation was "She had a knife". He was within his rights, but it was a safe-from-his-point-of-view solution rather than anything admirable.

    Replies: @anon

    Most would feel confident of their ability to do so by shooting her in the back from a couple of yards away

    Then we could take those people to a pistol range, set up a simplified version of the situation and have them actually try, while on video. The results would be edifying.

    Or even just set up a FATS simulator.

    my feeling would be apparently homicidal persons threateningly advancing on others have had knives taken off them a lot especially if they are females.

    Your feeling would be non-relevant, since you have no evidence to offer.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @anon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aae7fNSfWwg

    You can see the distance that police know can be covered almost instantaneously by a rush. And looking at the neighbor video. Bryant's knife was held way way back behind her; Reardon could have covered that ground is he had reacted appropriate to the circumstances. Pinkie and Bryant were moving back together in contact.

    https://youtu.be/9UJQxV8TAZw?t=41

    While all this might not have been easy to take in A good police officer would go be the rule of thumb that a young girl was probably not going to kill, and had confidence in his ability to grab her. Reardon lacks a commanding presence, did not seem to know what to do, then was half hearted at stopping Bryant physically, but he is obviously practiced at gun drills. He said "Get Down twice, but did not tell her to drop the knife. He is not a bad guy like Chauvin is, just not someone who can cope with surprises.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon

  181. @res
    @ic1000


    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D.,
    ...

     

    That's sarcasm, right? Sorry, but there is so much disingenuous trolling here my sarcasm detector is having trouble.

    If it's not sarcasm, please elaborate. Because I would be very interested in even a single example of one of those people being able to stop a knife attack in progress. Especially at the same range as Reardon was.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000

    That’s sarcasm, right?

    Obviously so. Peek below the MORE and see. For a start, her CV is somewhat lacking in SEAL-level close-quarter combat training.

    …my sarcasm detector is having trouble

    Needs recalibration, that’s all. Nothing serious. Maybe a break from Teh AlGore Webz for a day or two?

  182. @res
    @ic1000


    Sorry, res, you are in the wrong. For her NYT article, Ms. Gupta (she/her) deposed Monique W. Morris Ed.D.,
    ...

     

    That's sarcasm, right? Sorry, but there is so much disingenuous trolling here my sarcasm detector is having trouble.

    If it's not sarcasm, please elaborate. Because I would be very interested in even a single example of one of those people being able to stop a knife attack in progress. Especially at the same range as Reardon was.

    Replies: @anon, @ic1000

    > That’s sarcasm, right?

    Right. There is literally nothing in the professional experience of Doctor (Adjunct) Professor Monique W. Morris Ed.D. to suggest that she knows more about de-escalating girlish knife fights than does any other fan of Law & Order. Reporterette Gupta could have gotten better insights, had she dropped by ‘Cheers’ during Happy Hour to interview Norm.*

    Yet her editor at the New York Times gave a green light to this rubbish. The publisher published it.

    .
    * a fictional barfly

    • Replies: @anon
    @ic1000

    Reporterette Gupta could have gotten better insights, had she dropped by ‘Cheers’ during Happy Hour to interview Norm.*

    Eh....if I may interject...Cliff Clavin would be the obvious go-to for any advice on yer knife fighting, from basic to advanced. Y'know?

  183. @ic1000
    @res

    > That’s sarcasm, right?

    Right. There is literally nothing in the professional experience of Doctor (Adjunct) Professor Monique W. Morris Ed.D. to suggest that she knows more about de-escalating girlish knife fights than does any other fan of Law & Order. Reporterette Gupta could have gotten better insights, had she dropped by 'Cheers' during Happy Hour to interview Norm.*

    Yet her editor at the New York Times gave a green light to this rubbish. The publisher published it.

    .
    * a fictional barfly

    Replies: @anon

    Reporterette Gupta could have gotten better insights, had she dropped by ‘Cheers’ during Happy Hour to interview Norm.*

    Eh….if I may interject…Cliff Clavin would be the obvious go-to for any advice on yer knife fighting, from basic to advanced. Y’know?

    • Agree: Sollipsist
    • LOL: ic1000
  184. @Jackbnimbl
    @res

    Thanks for posting. Very hard to find stats anymore

    Replies: @res

    You (and Firstdown 111) are welcome. If you like statistics like that you might want to check out this comment about the NCVS historical data.
    https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/?showcomments#comment-4206835

    A bit more discussion here.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/merry-christmas-6/#comment-4371872

  185. @Joe S.Walker
    There seems to have been remarkably little coverage of the guy who joined Knife Girl in chasing her first target, and who kicked that girl's head as if he was making a good try at killing her. Who is he, and what did he have to do with it? What, indeed, was the whole scene about? Why isn't the New York Times explaining that instead of publishing nonsense?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Firstdown 111, @Dutch Fagan

    The kicker is the dead girl’s father. She had called him because of the arguement with the two other girls. The two girls were former foster children who came by to celebrate the foster mother’s birthday.

  186. @Yancey Ward
    It takes an incredible amount of shamelessness to create this sort of strawman version of what happened in Columbus, but NYTimes writers have done it once again. Reardon literally had no chance to talk Bryant out of attacking the girl in pink- it was literally shoot Bryant or allow Bryant to finish whatever it was she was doing with that knife in that instant. And, even worse- we all know what the narrative would have been had Reardon not acted and Bryant killed or severely injured the girl in pink- the narrative would have blamed Reardon for that, too.

    But, I guess according to the NYTimes, Reardon probably should have asked the bystanders the girl's name, looked up her TikTok videos so that he would have known she was "young". I saw and knew exactly what Reardon did when he pulled up on the scene- I would have put Bryant's age between 14 and 30, but in the heat of the moment, I would not have even given a sh*t what her age was- the only facts that matter in that instant was the knife and the girl Bryant was about to stab. Talk about arm-chair quaterbacking on a Monday morning.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Sick 'n Tired

    It is really no different than dealing with child soldiers in African countries, yes they are 10 years old, but they won’t hesitate to mow you down with an AK-47, or hack you up with a machete if they are told to. And what is your only recourse in that moment, but to kill a child who’s intent is ending your life. Quite a conundrum.

  187. @CCZ
    @Zoos


    "She could certainly beat the holy crap out of Ms. Cooper without any problem."
     
    Maybe, or maybe not; Ms. Cooper does carry a lot of padding:

    https://twitter.com/BlackWomenOWN/status/1173695998989721601

    Replies: @James Speaks, @Harry Baldwin

    I thought Professor Crunk was the character Eddie Murphy played in The Nutty Professor, but I checked and it was Professor Klump. Close, though!

  188. @CCZ
    @AndrewR

    Sadly, Ms. ("Professor Crunk") Cooper's "childishness" is partially underwritten by New Jersey taxpayers, as she is a $112,000 a year Associate Professor of Women's and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers University. She also writes "a top race blog" as voted by "The Root - The Blacker the Content the Sweeter the Truth."

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian

    As a New Jersey resident, I must report another egregious story from Rutgers’ Camden campus:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/rutgers-students-now-receive-trigger-warnings-greek-roman-literature-history/

    This guy appears to be from Australia. However, I particularly loved the response this crap elicited from a student. Read the story to see what this student said.

    I used to work on this campus in the law school library. Wow.

    • Thanks: CCZ
  189. @StevenotSailer
    @Hector Ramon

    Did you even bother to watch the video? The knife-wielding beluga had a full head of steam and was about a nanosecond from plunging her shiv into pinkie's gut. There wasn't enough time to say anything to discourage the attack; it was either shoot and drop the assailant or not shoot and watch pinkie get the shiv in her gut. Next time, speak from a place of reality. Otherwise, step away from your keyboard and let the grownups discuss.

    Replies: @James Forrestal, @Hector Ramon

    I did watch the video. I think the police officer made the right call in this situation.

    My point was that Steve rejected the idea of disarming a knife wielder out of hand. I am speaking from a point of reality: I have disarmed a knife wielding “girl”. By the same token the father of a psychotic young woman I worked with tried to take a knife off her to stop her harming herself. He was stabbed to death. Then she stabbed everyone else in her parents house and then went next door and stabbed a neighbour and was on her way to stab more people when she was brought down by a police dog. The other stabbing victims all survived. She wasn’t shot and she is currently residing in the secure wing of a mental hospital. That is the kind of experience that might prompt some people to question the outcome here. If you’ve seen people survive knife attacks, you’ve seen knife armed suspects taken down by dogs and you’ve seen caregivers disarm girls making dramatic gestures with knives you might question why this latest girl had to die. Such people may not be reasonable in their expectations but there is some reality behind their stance.

  190. @Clyde

    By Alisha Haridasani Gupta
    April 24, 2021, 2:30 p.m. ET
     
    She is the author of the above NY Times piece. With their wacky names etc. And the foreigner fueled wacki-tude continues onward. Hysterical, whitey despising, Foreign women. Irrelevant if she was born here or immigrated, anti-white all the same.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Bumpkin

  191. @anon
    @Sean

    Most would feel confident of their ability to do so by shooting her in the back from a couple of yards away

    Then we could take those people to a pistol range, set up a simplified version of the situation and have them actually try, while on video. The results would be edifying.

    Or even just set up a FATS simulator.

    my feeling would be apparently homicidal persons threateningly advancing on others have had knives taken off them a lot especially if they are females.

    Your feeling would be non-relevant, since you have no evidence to offer.

    Replies: @Sean

    You can see the distance that police know can be covered almost instantaneously by a rush. And looking at the neighbor video. Bryant’s knife was held way way back behind her; Reardon could have covered that ground is he had reacted appropriate to the circumstances. Pinkie and Bryant were moving back together in contact.

    While all this might not have been easy to take in A good police officer would go be the rule of thumb that a young girl was probably not going to kill, and had confidence in his ability to grab her. Reardon lacks a commanding presence, did not seem to know what to do, then was half hearted at stopping Bryant physically, but he is obviously practiced at gun drills. He said “Get Down twice, but did not tell her to drop the knife. He is not a bad guy like Chauvin is, just not someone who can cope with surprises.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Sean

    Are you insane?

    Reardon stepped in and broke up Ma'K the Knife's attempt to murder Dreads Girl. He must have been utterly shocked when she then charged Pink Girl. That's insanely violent. But he still did the right thing and stopped her from disemboweling Pink Girl.

    , @anon
    @Sean

    Linking to video does not substitute for actual real-world testing. This is keyboard-jockey stuff. You can perform the Tueller drill with an Airsoft so no one gets hurt, and it will teach you more than 100 videos. Similarly you could set up something like the situation Reardon rolled into. Actually doing something real will teach more than keyboard commandoing.

    A good police officer would go be the rule of thumb that a young girl was probably not going to kill, and had confidence in his ability to grab her.

    You clearly don't know anything about this subject. It appears that you have found a new chew-toy to mumble over, that's all.

  192. @Sean
    @anon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aae7fNSfWwg

    You can see the distance that police know can be covered almost instantaneously by a rush. And looking at the neighbor video. Bryant's knife was held way way back behind her; Reardon could have covered that ground is he had reacted appropriate to the circumstances. Pinkie and Bryant were moving back together in contact.

    https://youtu.be/9UJQxV8TAZw?t=41

    While all this might not have been easy to take in A good police officer would go be the rule of thumb that a young girl was probably not going to kill, and had confidence in his ability to grab her. Reardon lacks a commanding presence, did not seem to know what to do, then was half hearted at stopping Bryant physically, but he is obviously practiced at gun drills. He said "Get Down twice, but did not tell her to drop the knife. He is not a bad guy like Chauvin is, just not someone who can cope with surprises.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon

    Are you insane?

    Reardon stepped in and broke up Ma’K the Knife’s attempt to murder Dreads Girl. He must have been utterly shocked when she then charged Pink Girl. That’s insanely violent. But he still did the right thing and stopped her from disemboweling Pink Girl.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  193. @Redman
    @reiner Tor

    This is really incredible if true. It will have a complete chilling effect on future defense experts whose views may be generally accepted by the scientific community but don’t fit the political narrative.

    Also, the NYP article misstates Fowler’s opinions. It mentions the carbon monoxide and Floyd’s bad heart, but leaves out the fentanyl/meth combo (Speedball) Floyd had just taken. Baker, the Minneapolis ME(who also testified), said the drug combo alone would be enough to kill Floyd. Baker admitted he’s listed Fentanyl as the COD on hundreds of death certificates with the same or much less of it in the toxicology reports.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Well, rule of law n sheeit.

    TBH I don’t think the cop did anything wrong, perhaps he could have checked the heartbeat of George Floyd, but it’s questionable if his life could have been saved. It’s certainly not like he deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars.

  194. anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @anon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aae7fNSfWwg

    You can see the distance that police know can be covered almost instantaneously by a rush. And looking at the neighbor video. Bryant's knife was held way way back behind her; Reardon could have covered that ground is he had reacted appropriate to the circumstances. Pinkie and Bryant were moving back together in contact.

    https://youtu.be/9UJQxV8TAZw?t=41

    While all this might not have been easy to take in A good police officer would go be the rule of thumb that a young girl was probably not going to kill, and had confidence in his ability to grab her. Reardon lacks a commanding presence, did not seem to know what to do, then was half hearted at stopping Bryant physically, but he is obviously practiced at gun drills. He said "Get Down twice, but did not tell her to drop the knife. He is not a bad guy like Chauvin is, just not someone who can cope with surprises.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon

    Linking to video does not substitute for actual real-world testing. This is keyboard-jockey stuff. You can perform the Tueller drill with an Airsoft so no one gets hurt, and it will teach you more than 100 videos. Similarly you could set up something like the situation Reardon rolled into. Actually doing something real will teach more than keyboard commandoing.

    A good police officer would go be the rule of thumb that a young girl was probably not going to kill, and had confidence in his ability to grab her.

    You clearly don’t know anything about this subject. It appears that you have found a new chew-toy to mumble over, that’s all.

  195. In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable.

    Citation needed. Implausible.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr69/nvsr69-13-508.pdf

    [Data for homicide by firearm discharge, which is the vast majority of homicides. 2018]

    939 killed by black females, ~6.5% of the population.

    .065 X 330,000,000 = 21,450,000 / 939 = 1 per 22,843

    3,303 killed by white males, ~35% of the population.

    .35 X 330,000,000 = 115,500,000 / 3303 = 1 per 34,968

    So black women murder at a rate 1.5X white men.

    BWTM:

    6,998 killed by black men.

    .065 X 330,000,000 = 21,450,000 / 6,998 = 1 per 3,065

    An order of magnitude > white men and about 7:1 to black women.

    Think about that. One in 3000 black males will commit a murder this year.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Gamecock

    Just out of interest, what is the homicide perpetration rate for white women?
    I expect it to be miniscule.

    Whatever else you can say about white women, they are not murderous in the literal sense.

  196. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gamecock


    In the US, black women murder at a higher per capita rate than white men, which is pretty remarkable.
     
    Citation needed. Implausible.
     
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr69/nvsr69-13-508.pdf

    [Data for homicide by firearm discharge, which is the vast majority of homicides. 2018]


    939 killed by black females, ~6.5% of the population.

    .065 X 330,000,000 = 21,450,000 / 939 = 1 per 22,843


    3,303 killed by white males, ~35% of the population.

    .35 X 330,000,000 = 115,500,000 / 3303 = 1 per 34,968


    So black women murder at a rate 1.5X white men.

    BWTM:

    6,998 killed by black men.

    .065 X 330,000,000 = 21,450,000 / 6,998 = 1 per 3,065

    An order of magnitude > white men and about 7:1 to black women.

    Think about that. One in 3000 black males will commit a murder this year.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Just out of interest, what is the homicide perpetration rate for white women?
    I expect it to be miniscule.

    Whatever else you can say about white women, they are not murderous in the literal sense.

  197. 949. Bout the same as black women. But white women are about 35% of the population, vs 6.5% for black women.

    35 / 6.5 = 5.4X

    I should have noted before that these are DEATH figures, not murderer figures. But they are still good, because, generally, blacks kill blacks, whites kill whites, and Asians don’t kill anyone.

  198. @ScarletNumber
    @Reg Cæsar


    Of the eight most populous states, only Texas and Ohio have had female governors.
     
    As per the last official census, Michigan was the 8th-most populous state.

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    And with today’s announcement, Michigan has now fallen to 10th behind Georgia and North Carolina, making Reg Cæsar’s post officially correct.

  199. One Hand: Black children develop physically much earlier than White children; this from walking to puberty.

    The Other Hand: My’Khia was just a child, a baby…
    whut dindunuffin, and could have been tazered or shot in the leg…
    because “kids” have been having knife fights for eons.

    Pick a hand.
    Be careful of the hand with bull excrement all over it.

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