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From a New York Times opinion columnist:

Is This the Trump Tipping Point?

I know. We’ve said we’ve been here a thousand times before. This time feels different.

By Jennifer Senior
Opinion columnist

June 7, 2020

You never want to say that you’ve reached a tipping point with this administration. Donald J. Trump has proved to be the Nosferatu of American politics: heartless, partial to Slavs, beneath grace and thus far impervious to destruction.

Yup, that’s what she said: “partial to Slavs.”

 
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  1. Dirty Slav Lover. He even married two (not at the same time).

    partial to Slavs : Bad, but’s OK to accuse someone of this. No problem.

    partial to Blacks: Good, but it’s never OK to accuse someone of this. If you do, you are unpersoned.

    That’s all you need to know.

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Jack D

    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course. I'm sick of this shit.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @ben tillman

  2. Deep…deep. I mean…like, you know, heavy. “Nosferatu”; “Partial to Slavs.”

    The Gray Hag has been featuring some profound thinkers lately .

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    @Prester John

    "Partial to Slavs."

    Slavs with names like Kushner, Mnuchin and Netanyahu.

    , @Forbes
    @Prester John

    I'm still stuck at "Nosferatu."

    Here's 1979 film version writer/director Werner Herzog, from wiki...


    Herzog saw his film as a parable about the fragility of order in a staid, bourgeois town. "It is more than a horror film", he says. "Nosferatu is not a monster, but an ambivalent, masterful force of change.
     
    I'm not certain the effect Jennifer Senior was going for, but I doubt her obscure reference does it.
  3. Russ says:

    Useful might be a 21st-century misery index quantifying how Slavs, Kulaks, whatever have you have suffered in the last 50 yrs or 100 yrs or whatever span of time one wishes to consider. Then compare it to the “plight” of the African-American (to use term Jesse Jackson coined around 1980). Then act accordingly.

    • Agree: Antiwar7
  4. I did a search in the comments on ‘Slav’ in the comments. There was only one comment that references this phrase – someone said that it made him laugh.

    I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don’t they? So it means that they delete such comments.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @inertial

    Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @415 reasons
    @inertial

    As a Slavic American I have to say I’m not actually offended in the slightest that the NYT is deploying this as an insult. I just wish others wouldn’t be so thin skinned. I know the world has gone crazy but I don’t actually get offended by Polish jokes. I’m sure a critical race theorist could swing in on a chandelier and explain how that shows just how entrenched my white privilege and unconscious bias are.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @stillCARealist

    , @Kronos
    @inertial

    NYT commenters base their perspectives of Slavs from memes. (They’re like rednecks but on a whole other level.)

    https://youtu.be/7_Xsi3hRG8Y

    https://youtu.be/o3omZn87LbA

    , @SFG
    @inertial

    They do delete sufficiently critical comments.

    I'm guessing the Polish/Czech/Hungarian jetsetter with Ivy degrees who reads the NYT thinks she's either (a) referring to Putin and Russia, in which case no problem, because a lot of these other countries resent Russia for pretty sound historical reasons or (b) one of those nasty provincial people back home who voted for Kaczynski, Orban, etc., not her, a nice person who reads the NYT and thinks Soros is a good guy. (If she is Russian, file under (b).)

    Slavic-Americans of other persuasions would be less likely to read the NYT.

    Or she's got parentheses, in which case she chuckles at the dig at those Cossacks she remembers from a story handed down by great-Grandma or Fiddler on the Roof.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire

    , @Svevlad
    @inertial

    it's a funny failure on their part anyway. We Slavs are unoffendable, bar blatantly calling for genocide. Anything else is treated simply as bantz

  5. Steve, I wish you commented a bit more. Sometimes we normal mortal cannot understand your deep thoughts.

    Partial to Slavs: Eastern Europeans like his wife? Not partial to others tribes like Brits, Germanic, or Southern Europeans? Why?
    Or Slavs as the root in the name “slave”? Trump seems to be partial to ex-slaves and allows them to riot, regurgitate insane theories about repression of Blacks, which originate from White leftists.
    And, of course, Trump would never dare to be “racist”, aka race realist, though he sometimes disobeys the #PCGagOrder (never speak negatively of ‘minorities’ as not to cause ‘prejudice’)

    • Replies: @Uncle Sam
    @Sincerity.net

    The word Slav has nothing to do with slaves or slavery. It originates from the Slavic word "slava" which means, depending on the Slavic language in question , glory, fame, greatness, blessed, anointed or a national or religious festival or holiday. It has no negative connotations or implications.

  6. That is so bizarre. Slavs? Granted, the NYT hates Eastern Europe because 1) they’re white and 2) Poland and especially Hungary have resisted the Flood to some degree, but Slavs per se? I wonder if she knows the etymology.

    thus far impervious to destruction.

    That’s the part that keeps them up nights. “We’ve tried everything!”

    As many here have noted, Trump is hardly our idea of an ideal leader, but he annoys the royal F out of them and for that, we thank him.

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @Coemgen
    @Mr McKenna


    As many here have noted, Trump is hardly our idea of an ideal leader ...
     
    Why the snark?

    Barack Obama is considered an "ideal leader" by many.

    Is it a good thing for us to have deified (apotheosized) "leaders" incarnate?
    , @AnotherGuessModel
    @Mr McKenna


    Slavs per se? I wonder if she knows the etymology.
     
    Slav actually means "fame and glory", which explains why it is in so many Slavic first names, but yeah, it is also the root word of "slave" for a historical reason.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  7. Wow just wow I can’t even. Imagine making that very same statement with just one minor word substitution!

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
    @anon215

    Will they publish my new Op Ed?

    The fake news new york times is partial to jews. Here's why that's a problem:

  8. @Jack D
    Dirty Slav Lover. He even married two (not at the same time).

    partial to Slavs : Bad, but's OK to accuse someone of this. No problem.

    partial to Blacks: Good, but it's never OK to accuse someone of this. If you do, you are unpersoned.

    That's all you need to know.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course. I’m sick of this shit.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.
     
    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon 2, @Anon 2, @S. Anonyia, @Anon5, @Jake

    , @ben tillman
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619.
     
    Yes, the resemblance between "Slav" and "slave" is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs' history of being enslaved.

    Replies: @Black-hole creator, @Anonymous

  9. Russians and American blacks were freed from slavery at about the same time (1861-2). Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik. What did American blacks accomplished?

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    @JimB

    They've blessed us with towering intellects like Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    , @snorlax
    @JimB

    The moon landing could never have happened without sassy black ladies!

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    , @Jack D
    @JimB


    Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik.
     
    Has anyone ever done a study of the class roots of Russian intellectuals, generals, etc. based on common Serf surnames and the like? I know that in the UK, people with Norman surnames are still socially prominent almost 1,000 years after the Norman Conquest. The Revolution was highly disruptive but I would bet that did not fully erase social differences.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @JimB

    They became pop stars.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cDLZqe735k

    It's their prerogative.

    , @Forbes
    @JimB

    USA blacks, with occasional lapses, keep beating the Russians/Soviets in basketball at the Olympics.

  10. Dear goodness, so the next level isn’t accusing someone of being “partial to whites”, but instead calling out individual white ethnic race partiality.

    I guess that’s the preferred camel’s nose to getting outright white hatred accepted.

  11. Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.

    She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine:

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @DextersLabRat

    We're gonna need a bigger "Early Life" section.

    , @JimB
    @DextersLabRat

    It must be nice having orthodontists and plastic surgeons in the family.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Jane Plain

    , @Colin Wright
    @DextersLabRat

    'Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.

    She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine.'

    It is hard to come up any other explanation for why she'd assume being 'partial to Slavs' was a bad thing.

    , @Jane Plain
    @DextersLabRat

    This is really to commenter Jack D: care to respond to this? You're always quick to respond to me, so I thought you might want to respond to the "painfully Jewish" bit.

  12. Donald Trump, Slavophile. As if today’s rhetoric wasn’t already like something straight out of Dostoyevsky’s Demons.

    • Replies: @william munny
    @JimDandy

    I just read that for the first time last week and it felt very timely for a book written by a dead guy in a Slavic country.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  13. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, The Backward has a high reverse gear, much like a few classic huge cars that had the same number of speeds reverse as going forward. The old Maybachs come to mind. I remember listening to some asshat WWII vet in St. Louis tell about how they got a confiscated nazi staff car like this up to 60 mph in reverse on the Autobahn. Wound up wrecking and totaling it. It would be worth millions now. Unfortunately the jerks doing it survived.

  14. “But why doesn’t he like me? Is it my hair?“

    Sailer’s law of female journalism strikes again.

  15. I wonder how much Russophobia is driven by female jealousy of Slavic women?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @Daniel Chieh

    I didn't want to make a redundant comment but having been to Russia and seen such a high percentage of drop-dead gorgeous women in Moscow, I suspect that a lot of this comes from Senior being shortchanged in the looks department.

  16. partial to Slavs

    According to Google that phrase has never been used before. So that’s something.

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    @ScarletNumber

    There is the term "Slavophile." These were 19th century Russian intellectuals, including Dostoevsky, who sought to unite all the Slavic people against Western Europe. But I don't think this is what Ms. Senoir had in mind.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous

    , @Percy Gryce
    @ScarletNumber

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_great_lord/snM5AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=partial%20to%20Slavs

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  17. I wonder if all the looting and rioting reminds Ms. Senor of Cossacks and Pogroms.

    • Replies: @Mister.Baseball
    @JohnnyD

    It's all part of Trump's reverse holocaust plans:

    https://twitter.com/JakeTurx/status/1270131159360581641

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

  18. @ScarletNumber

    partial to Slavs
     
    According to Google that phrase has never been used before. So that's something.

    Replies: @JohnnyD, @Percy Gryce

    There is the term “Slavophile.” These were 19th century Russian intellectuals, including Dostoevsky, who sought to unite all the Slavic people against Western Europe. But I don’t think this is what Ms. Senoir had in mind.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @JohnnyD

    No, that's exactly what she had in mind.

    Orthodoxy is sexy and winning converts. This underlying dynamic is why they were so paranoid about Putin and are so paranoid about Orban (although Huns are only Slav adjacent, Poles like Posobiec also set off alram bells) in the first place.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Anonymous
    @JohnnyD

    I hadn't thought the time ripe for an e-campaign to rebrand MAGA as Alt-Existentialism with memey codewords/dog whistles of esoteric reference to the Underground Man; but no matter how off the mark it is, it would at least really confuse the New York media drones.

  19. @JimB
    Russians and American blacks were freed from slavery at about the same time (1861-2). Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik. What did American blacks accomplished?

    Replies: @JohnnyD, @snorlax, @Jack D, @JohnnyWalker123, @Forbes

    They’ve blessed us with towering intellects like Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    • Agree: Unladen Swallow
  20. It sounds like a non-sequitur until you remember the people who dictate and limit culture in the US historically overseeing, enslaving, and genociding Eastern Europeans. Jennifer Senior: Ted Talks and New Yorker/New York Times twaddle, in other words, a person whose employment depends on her race.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @J.Ross

    It sounds like a non-sequitur until you remember the people who dictate and limit culture in the US historically overseeing, enslaving, and genociding Eastern Europeans.

    Thanks for the malicious fantasy. Always an education.

  21. I guess it’s supposed to be funny, but I’m not sure why. Like, “Here’s something witty: Trump is Nosferatu who is Romanian, and Romanians are not-really but sort-of Slavs, and Trump is married to a leggy Slav, and oh remember that Russian conspiracy theory that was like 3+ years of bullshit from my cousins? Yeah, Russians are Slavs. So, umm. Ha ha.”

    Worst Jewish comedian award?

  22. @Neil Templeton
    @Jack D

    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course. I'm sick of this shit.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @ben tillman

    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.

    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Chris Mallory

    Because they're the finest writers the world has ever known.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Anon 2
    @Chris Mallory

    Re: This nation was not founded by Slavs

    Few people know that Captain John Smith went to Poland
    to recruit artisans before his famous voyage. They landed with him
    in 1607, and helped to establish what became known as the Jamestown
    colony. Even fewer people know that Poland and England were major allies
    at the time when Poland as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
    was at the height of its power around 1600, and was the largest and most powerful
    country in Europe. Poland was a major exporter of wheat, and Polish
    ships sailed regularly to London carrying wheat, etc. Shakespeare and Newton
    grew healthy and strong on Polish wheat. Polish merchants and seamen even
    had a small Polish section in London which is commemorated by Poland Street
    in the Soho district.

    Of course, I shouldn’t have to add that Gen. Kosciuszko from Poland played
    an important role in the American Revolution, was friends with both Washington
    and Jefferson, and designed West Point while Gen. Pulaski lost his life fighting
    for the independence of the new republic. There are many towns and even
    cities in the U.S, named Warsaw and Pulaski. There are more statues erected
    in the U.S. in honor of Gen. Kosciuszko than any other person except Washington.
    In fact one of them, located in front of the White House, was defaced in recent
    riots.

    , @Anon 2
    @Chris Mallory

    There are about 15 million Slavic Americans, among them
    10 million Polish Americans. True, not very many compared
    to German- or Italian-Americans.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Chris Mallory

    Because the myopic focus on American history is asinine as our country is only 250 years old. It leads to stupid ideas like American exceptionalism, the shining city on a hill, globohomo, and hysterical BLM mania.

    Americans are so ignorant of world history that many of them presume all societies that had slaves only used blacks. That is if they are even aware nations other than the U.S practiced slavery- some aren’t.

    Seriously the focus on American history is why we are so damned nutty. Because no one wants to be “on the wrong side of history” and we definitely present our saga as a good guys vs bad guys struggle.

    , @Anon5
    @Chris Mallory

    I'll take the bait:

    Pulaski, Kosciuszko, etc.

    Replies: @Mike Zwick

    , @Jake
    @Chris Mallory

    Really?

    So let's actually think about that rather than simply regurgitating the utter stupidities of VDARE.

    Quakers, Unitarians, and Universalists were all planted here from dear old England by 1790. I assert that per capita they did as much for nascent Leftism in the US as did the Jews later. In fact, without the WASP born and bred heretical groups, Jews never could have hoped to hit the ground running when they began to arrive in large numbers.

    And then there is the sordid history of Leftism produced by the church that is the direct descendants of New England Anglo-Saxon Puritans: Congregational. Have you any idea of how much ultra liberalism Congregationalists produced just in the 18th and 19th centuries?

    The vast majority of Congregationalist churches formed the United Church of Christ in the 1950s. It has been the most overall Liberal church in the country since then.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  23. Yup, that’s what she said: “partial to Slavs.”

    Great. That should help him in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Wisconsin.

    Jest stronniczy w stosunku do Słowian! To jest funkcja, a nie błąd!

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t think most Polish Americans in the Midwest and PA are aware Poles are part of a larger Slavic group.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  24. @Neil Templeton
    @Jack D

    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course. I'm sick of this shit.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @ben tillman

    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619.

    Yes, the resemblance between “Slav” and “slave” is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs’ history of being enslaved.

    • Replies: @Black-hole creator
    @ben tillman


    Yes, the resemblance between “Slav” and “slave” is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs’ history of being enslaved.
     
    The word slave is connected with Slavs because a large fraction of the slaves sold in medieval Europe and Osman Empire were of Slavic origin. See e.g. the Slavic (Slave) Quay in Venice, one of main slave markets in medieval Europe.

    The NYT article has in it a lot of visceral hatred of Trump, slavs, republicans and whoever is not saluting the flag of Saint Floyd. The comments there are just as appalling.
    , @Anonymous
    @ben tillman


    Yes, the resemblance between “Slav” and “slave” is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs’ history of being enslaved.
     
    Did the word “Slav” come from the word “slave,” or did the word “slave” come from the word “Slav”?
  25. @inertial
    I did a search in the comments on 'Slav' in the comments. There was only one comment that references this phrase - someone said that it made him laugh.

    I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad

    Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hibernian


    Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.
     
    If you want to know what's going on in NYC you read the Post. If you want to know what's really going on in the heads of the power elite, you read the Jewish Daily Forward, and a few other periodicals. The New York Times is only good for bird cage lining, provided you don't mind offending the intelligence of the bird.

    There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called "the Dom" which stood for "Polski Dom (something)".

    People

    Jonas Mekas
    Lou Reed
    Moe Tucker
    Sterling Morrison
    John Cale

    The Velvet Underground continued playing for these Factory-produced events, renamed the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, a continuation of multimedia experiments that were taking place downtown. Elaine Summers had already staged her Fantastic Gardens mixed-media event in February 1964 at Judson Church, where film projections were splashed on the ceiling, walls, and floor, and the audience participated with small handheld mirrors. The results were stunning, and unprecedented. As the space was enveloped by a cacophony of lighting effects, music, movement, spoken word, and cinema, dance pioneer Sally Stackhouse performed on the balcony in front of a film of herself dancing. In his Village Voice column, Jonas Mekas argued that Fantastic Gardens was “by far the most successful and most ambitious attempt to use the many possible combinations of film and live action to create an aesthetic experience.” Two years later, Warhol did much the same when he projected performance footage of the Velvet Underground while they played in the Exploding Plastic Inevitable at the Dom.

    From Chapter 11 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore
    Debbie Harry and Chris Stein Discover the Velvet Underground
    People

    Chris Stein
    Debbie Harry
    Joey Freeman

    The Velvet Underground won over future Blondie cofounders Debbie Harry and Chris Stein, who saw them on separate occasions around 1967. “The stage was bright and colorful and beautiful,” Harry said of a show she saw not long after she moved to the Lower East Side. “I remember Nico was wearing a chartreuse outfit and it was stunning. It was just beautiful to look at, as well as to hear, and I remember Andy being there in the balcony. Andy Warhol was running the lights, and it was just this beautiful burst of colors and vibrations. The projections behind them were just so lovely and impressionistic, but also dark and scary at the same time. I guess I was drawn to the darkness.” Stein and his teenage pals loved the group’s debut album, and one day in 1967 they realized every garage band’s dream: opening for the Velvet Underground. “My friend Joey Freeman’s job was basically to go wake up Andy at his house,” Stein recalled, “and one day he told me that the band that was supposed to open for the Velvet Underground had cancelled. We just went up there, set up, and played at a place called the Gymnasium.” That casual pickup band was sometimes known as First Crow on the Moon, which Stein didn’t really take seriously, but the show itself was a life-changing event. “That Velvet Underground show was completely awesome, in every sense of that word,” Stein said. “It was just overpowering.”

    From Chapter 15 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore
     
    also
    https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/



    Indeed, Warhol was originally "Warhola", and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .

    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church


    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church is a historic Eastern Catholic church in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States. It is located in the neighborhood of Four Mile Run, which is an isolated section of Greenfield at the bottom of Junction Hollow. Its address is 506 Saline Street.

    Today it is best known for having been the family church of the artist Andy Warhol. Because it faces the heavily traveled Interstate 376, or Parkway East, it is an architectural landmark for many commuters who look upon its onion domes and Slavic-style crosses.
     

    Replies: @Anon 2, @RSDB

  26. Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.

    Why wouldn’t a normal man be partial to one? Listen to her speak.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @trelane

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon

    , @Russ
    @trelane


    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.
     
    To wit, the president of Croatia.

    Trump's sharp eye for female beauty is yet another factor driving the NYT ilk crazy.
    , @J1234
    @trelane


    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.
     
    I agree with that, generally speaking. I can remember a time, however, when - right here in the US - a Slavic surname implied a lack of sophistication or even a lack of beauty for a woman. I never thought that perception was even remotely accurate, but some folks believed that back when I was a kid.

    BTW, on the subject of Melania's speaking voice, she's apparently fluent in five languages - I believe the same five languages that Slavoj Zizek can speak. It isn't just the women of Slovenia who are beautiful. The country itself is quite spectacular, based on the pictures I've seen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Thea

  27. As sad as it sounds, a large number of Americans have no idea what a Slav is. Some will think she misspelled slave. Perhaps that’s her intent?

    Probably Democratic voters don’t even know why they should be upset about the Ukraine/impeachment brouhaha. Ukrainians are honorary non-Slavs to her I guess.

    • Agree: Not Only Wrathful
  28. @DextersLabRat
    Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.

    She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52ee8f54e4b0186ede027e97/1411487077985-7WV8NJ92I03096TDQM5T/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPXPXkDKELR1g_Z8WfKorcJ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1URa2vM_mLhkY6JSJWNdRLcMU-vJyRaTcmfwfpV6wiKO5_78dgROcH-kL0R2Wc765bg/JenniferSenior.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @JimB, @Colin Wright, @Jane Plain

    We’re gonna need a bigger “Early Life” section.

    • LOL: Malcolm X-Lax
  29. Mystifying. Does this refer to POTUS’ taste in women or to his support from nefarious foreign agents?

    If it’s women, there’s an easy solution. The Donald should separate from Melania and start cohabiting with a Black lady.

    And, if it’s foreign agents, then the Donald should decline Mr Putin’s help and start making approaches to President Xi.

  30. @inertial
    I did a search in the comments on 'Slav' in the comments. There was only one comment that references this phrase - someone said that it made him laugh.

    I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad

    As a Slavic American I have to say I’m not actually offended in the slightest that the NYT is deploying this as an insult. I just wish others wouldn’t be so thin skinned. I know the world has gone crazy but I don’t actually get offended by Polish jokes. I’m sure a critical race theorist could swing in on a chandelier and explain how that shows just how entrenched my white privilege and unconscious bias are.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @415 reasons

    People who want you dead see your sense of fair play and raise you weaponized fake-outrage.

    You call with good humor, and then they push all-in with unhinged oppression that the Cheka would find excessive.

    Your move.

    Replies: @AnotherGuessModel

    , @stillCARealist
    @415 reasons

    I know lots of Slavs here around Sacramento, and I must say they conform to every conceivable stereotype, both good and bad. Much of Ukraine and Belarus seem to live in the burbs here. They are all Trump voters (if they're citizens).

  31. @ben tillman
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619.
     
    Yes, the resemblance between "Slav" and "slave" is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs' history of being enslaved.

    Replies: @Black-hole creator, @Anonymous

    Yes, the resemblance between “Slav” and “slave” is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs’ history of being enslaved.

    The word slave is connected with Slavs because a large fraction of the slaves sold in medieval Europe and Osman Empire were of Slavic origin. See e.g. the Slavic (Slave) Quay in Venice, one of main slave markets in medieval Europe.

    The NYT article has in it a lot of visceral hatred of Trump, slavs, republicans and whoever is not saluting the flag of Saint Floyd. The comments there are just as appalling.

  32. The term “Slav” will soon be banned, because it triggers people by reminding them of that other almost identical word, but spelled with an “e” at the end. Say “Eastern European” instead.

    • Replies: @Antiwar7
    @PiltdownMan

    As another commentator pointed out, the word "slave" is derived from the word "Slav", because so many Slavic people were enslaved:
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slave#Etymology

    , @Anon 2
    @PiltdownMan

    Re: Slavs as Eastern European

    But Western Slavs (Polish, Czech, Slovak) inhabit Central
    Europe, Eastern Slavs (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, ...)
    inhabit Eastern Europe and much of Asia, and Southern
    Slavs (Slovenians, Serbs, Croats, ...) inhabit Southern Europe.
    The Slavic territory is the largest territory on earth.

  33. these people are literally still hopping mad about relatively minor stuff that happened to them 100+ years ago.

  34. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m a Slav, and in the interests of full transparency, I did receive the support packet the neurotic Jewess below is concerned about. I just want to add that it’s about time us Slavs got some love. Ever since the dissolution of Czechoslovakia, we never get to have anything nice around Eastern Europe!

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    At least she knows she needs confirmation of what is real. Someone could start by informing her she is on planet earth.

    , @Kyle
    @Anonymous

    Politicians giving out hats for their supporters to wear is bad. Cause, you know, Hitler.

  35. @PiltdownMan
    The term "Slav" will soon be banned, because it triggers people by reminding them of that other almost identical word, but spelled with an "e" at the end. Say "Eastern European" instead.

    Replies: @Antiwar7, @Anon 2

    As another commentator pointed out, the word “slave” is derived from the word “Slav”, because so many Slavic people were enslaved:
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slave#Etymology

    • Thanks: PiltdownMan
  36. “This time feels different” is the funny part. The 1001st time, but this time it’s different.

  37. Maybe she meant to write “Rasputin” instead of Nosferatu.

  38. @JohnnyD
    I wonder if all the looting and rioting reminds Ms. Senor of Cossacks and Pogroms.

    Replies: @Mister.Baseball

    It’s all part of Trump’s reverse holocaust plans:

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    @Mister.Baseball

    This poor, tortured girl needs an intervention. Just because her pain is not emanating from where she thinks it is, it doesn't mean it isn't real.

  39. By Jennifer Senior
    Opinion columnist

    You never want to say that you’ve reached a tipping point with this administration. Donald J. Trump has proved to be the Nosferatu of American politics: heartless, partial to Slavs, beneath grace and thus far impervious to destruction.

    Maybe she likes to sing and wanted to get into Yale to join its well-regarded Slavic chorus, but was rejected and had to settle for Princeton instead?

  40. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian
    @inertial

    Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.

    If you want to know what’s going on in NYC you read the Post. If you want to know what’s really going on in the heads of the power elite, you read the Jewish Daily Forward, and a few other periodicals. The New York Times is only good for bird cage lining, provided you don’t mind offending the intelligence of the bird.

    There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called “the Dom” which stood for “Polski Dom (something)”.

    People

    Jonas Mekas
    Lou Reed
    Moe Tucker
    Sterling Morrison
    John Cale

    The Velvet Underground continued playing for these Factory-produced events, renamed the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, a continuation of multimedia experiments that were taking place downtown. Elaine Summers had already staged her Fantastic Gardens mixed-media event in February 1964 at Judson Church, where film projections were splashed on the ceiling, walls, and floor, and the audience participated with small handheld mirrors. The results were stunning, and unprecedented. As the space was enveloped by a cacophony of lighting effects, music, movement, spoken word, and cinema, dance pioneer Sally Stackhouse performed on the balcony in front of a film of herself dancing. In his Village Voice column, Jonas Mekas argued that Fantastic Gardens was “by far the most successful and most ambitious attempt to use the many possible combinations of film and live action to create an aesthetic experience.” Two years later, Warhol did much the same when he projected performance footage of the Velvet Underground while they played in the Exploding Plastic Inevitable at the Dom.

    From Chapter 11 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore
    Debbie Harry and Chris Stein Discover the Velvet Underground
    People

    Chris Stein
    Debbie Harry
    Joey Freeman

    The Velvet Underground won over future Blondie cofounders Debbie Harry and Chris Stein, who saw them on separate occasions around 1967. “The stage was bright and colorful and beautiful,” Harry said of a show she saw not long after she moved to the Lower East Side. “I remember Nico was wearing a chartreuse outfit and it was stunning. It was just beautiful to look at, as well as to hear, and I remember Andy being there in the balcony. Andy Warhol was running the lights, and it was just this beautiful burst of colors and vibrations. The projections behind them were just so lovely and impressionistic, but also dark and scary at the same time. I guess I was drawn to the darkness.” Stein and his teenage pals loved the group’s debut album, and one day in 1967 they realized every garage band’s dream: opening for the Velvet Underground. “My friend Joey Freeman’s job was basically to go wake up Andy at his house,” Stein recalled, “and one day he told me that the band that was supposed to open for the Velvet Underground had cancelled. We just went up there, set up, and played at a place called the Gymnasium.” That casual pickup band was sometimes known as First Crow on the Moon, which Stein didn’t really take seriously, but the show itself was a life-changing event. “That Velvet Underground show was completely awesome, in every sense of that word,” Stein said. “It was just overpowering.”

    From Chapter 15 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore

    also
    https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/

    Indeed, Warhol was originally “Warhola”, and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .

    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church

    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church is a historic Eastern Catholic church in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States. It is located in the neighborhood of Four Mile Run, which is an isolated section of Greenfield at the bottom of Junction Hollow. Its address is 506 Saline Street.

    Today it is best known for having been the family church of the artist Andy Warhol. Because it faces the heavily traveled Interstate 376, or Parkway East, it is an architectural landmark for many commuters who look upon its onion domes and Slavic-style crosses.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @Anonymous

    Andy Warhol was of Slovak origin, as was Kim Novak

    Replies: @william munny

    , @RSDB
    @Anonymous

    There seem to be an awful lot of Ukrainians in the East Village.

  41. @JohnnyD
    @ScarletNumber

    There is the term "Slavophile." These were 19th century Russian intellectuals, including Dostoevsky, who sought to unite all the Slavic people against Western Europe. But I don't think this is what Ms. Senoir had in mind.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous

    No, that’s exactly what she had in mind.

    Orthodoxy is sexy and winning converts. This underlying dynamic is why they were so paranoid about Putin and are so paranoid about Orban (although Huns are only Slav adjacent, Poles like Posobiec also set off alram bells) in the first place.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Desiderius

    You have the history and tradition of the Catholic Church without the truly horrifying pedophilia scandal.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dissident

  42. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Underestimate us Slavs, and you might wind up… unpleasantly surprised.

    Oh, yes that’s right we’re BACK!!

  43. Wouldn’t it make more sense to call him Rasputin? Czarist elements tried removing him (literally by hook and crook) but failed numerous times.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Kronos

    https://youtu.be/SYnVYJDxu2Q

  44. anon[127] • Disclaimer says:

    Obviously “Slav” is just a code word for “Russia”. So this is a more subtle form of Russiagate. Bad Orange Hitler being “partial to Slavs” means he’s Putler’s doublesekret agent!

    Some people don’t seem to have a lot of cards in their deck .I guess that’s why they keep playing the same ones.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  45. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Rather a strange comment. Writer apparently thinks Slavs, a very broad group, are bad in some unspecified way. Melania is the best looking first lady in the entire history of the US, is multi-lingual and obviously intelligent. She’d be getting glowing press treatment were she the spouse of any other president. Put her next to this Senior person and choose which one you prefer.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @anonymous


    She’d be getting glowing press treatment were she the spouse of any other president.
     
    I don't know. The accent kinda killed it. She also comes across a little cold. First Ladies have to be all American, warm and bubbly to be popular.

    Replies: @AnotherGuessModel, @anonymous

  46. @Kronos
    Wouldn’t it make more sense to call him Rasputin? Czarist elements tried removing him (literally by hook and crook) but failed numerous times.

    https://youtu.be/JXdbseRz0lc

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  47. @JimB
    Russians and American blacks were freed from slavery at about the same time (1861-2). Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik. What did American blacks accomplished?

    Replies: @JohnnyD, @snorlax, @Jack D, @JohnnyWalker123, @Forbes

    The moon landing could never have happened without sassy black ladies!

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @snorlax

    Right? And though I don't exactly hasten to add material in their favor, I do prefer R&B and Jazz to most Russian music I've heard. Maybe I'm biased through experience?

  48. Standard stereotype in Europe:

    Germanics are scientific (and obsessed with weapons).
    Romance people (Italians, French, Spanish, …) are artistic.
    Slavs are spiritual.

    God seems to like Slavs – there are 240 million Slavs, and only 120 million
    Germanics (incl. 20 million Scandinavians). That’s why Hitler never had
    a chance. Let’s not forget, “The meek shall inherit the earth,” and the Slavs,
    unlike the Germanics, were never known for their arrogance.

    The Slavs see the Celts (Irish, Scotch, Welsh) and the Portuguese
    as their natural allies. In fact, to the Polish or Russian ear Portuguese
    sounds vaguely Slavonic. There is a growing amount of intermarriage
    between the Polish and the Iberians. Huge numbers of Spanish
    and Portuguese students spend a year or two in Poland under the
    Erasmus student exchange program. The other day I saw a comment
    under a Polish pop song (sung by Sanah, famous 21-year-old Polish
    vocalist) on YouTube, made by a young Portuguese fellow, “Oh, how
    I crave to be Polish, but I’m not.” Polish music is staging a resurgence.
    Polish vocalists, Roxie Wegiel (13 years old) and Viki Gabor (12 years old)
    won the Junior Eurovision song contests two years in a row. Polish
    rappers like Mata and Taco Hemingway get 200-300 million views on
    YouTube, which is Dua Lipa territory.

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    @Anon 2

    Does Anybody have anything nice to say about the English? [No Irish NeedApply]

  49. So here’s a good follow:

    Interesting that Churchill came up in that context since I just caught this last night:

    Kind of eerie that I’ve been saying the exact same thing about the flaw in American education that Nixon convicted the Chinese of fifty years ago. Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted.

    If someone who is on Twitter could pass this clip along to AgeofShoddy I’d appreciate it.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Desiderius

    That video shows the cuckish nature of Nixon. The biggest thing in the heart of a soft White fella is to connect emotionally with a Leftist.


    Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted
     
    God, let's hope so!

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @nebulafox
    @Desiderius

    I think it was cool of Nixon to do that. Ever since McKinley's assassination, the Presidency has been a protected bubble by necessity. One of the few times that bubble was pierced, and he did it at a time of unrest where he was probably really was risking his physical security.

    As far as the greater point goes, when you make credentionalism a purpose unto itself, you get a society befitting that. Part of the explosion of mental illness in the younger generation probably has something to do with the nonstop feeling of going across a proverbial minefield. The wrong mistake, from an ill-timed comment to the wrong grade, and you blow yourself up. This is assuming you aren't already screwed before you realized what the stakes ever were, which includes a lot of "lumpy" talent: diamonds in the rough, late bloomers or misfits, whatever you want to call it.

    One of the big strengths of the US has traditionally been that lumpy talent has had the ability to make something of itself, but that's become less and less true over the past few decades as the pseudo-meritocracy entrenched itself. Perversely, we rhetorically praise difference and the willingness to be different more than ever, while in reality, tolerating the real stuff less than ever.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  50. A multicultural society:

    • Thanks: Moses
    • Replies: @anon
    @newrouter

    over the past week I have become conscious of anything "ghetto" in my life or appearing on TV - now I take steps to banish such things instead of allowing it to pollute me.
    No more football, etc.
    I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Reg Cæsar

  51. @PiltdownMan
    The term "Slav" will soon be banned, because it triggers people by reminding them of that other almost identical word, but spelled with an "e" at the end. Say "Eastern European" instead.

    Replies: @Antiwar7, @Anon 2

    Re: Slavs as Eastern European

    But Western Slavs (Polish, Czech, Slovak) inhabit Central
    Europe, Eastern Slavs (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, …)
    inhabit Eastern Europe and much of Asia, and Southern
    Slavs (Slovenians, Serbs, Croats, …) inhabit Southern Europe.
    The Slavic territory is the largest territory on earth.

  52. @inertial
    I did a search in the comments on 'Slav' in the comments. There was only one comment that references this phrase - someone said that it made him laugh.

    I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad

    NYT commenters base their perspectives of Slavs from memes. (They’re like rednecks but on a whole other level.)

  53. I guess New York Times columnists can’t be bothered to know that Nosferatu was supposed to be Romanian, and that Romanians aren’t entirely slavic.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Mr. Anon

    Their language isn't at all Slavic, it's Latin based, and they have the only historical, traditional, Orthodox liturgy in a Latin based language.

  54. @DextersLabRat
    Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.

    She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52ee8f54e4b0186ede027e97/1411487077985-7WV8NJ92I03096TDQM5T/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPXPXkDKELR1g_Z8WfKorcJ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1URa2vM_mLhkY6JSJWNdRLcMU-vJyRaTcmfwfpV6wiKO5_78dgROcH-kL0R2Wc765bg/JenniferSenior.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @JimB, @Colin Wright, @Jane Plain

    It must be nice having orthodontists and plastic surgeons in the family.

    • LOL: Cortes
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @JimB

    Rather than a cosmetic surgeon, more likely the photographer knew to pose her straight on the nose, with the head tilting down in order to diminish her proboscis.

    Replies: @JimB

    , @Jane Plain
    @JimB

    She's not the only one who's had a little work done.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/667869819712435641/

  55. Back when it used disqus I was banned from commenting at National Review for calling them Slavophobes. I was just being proportionate to the baseless accusations in the article too.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Harold

    Apparently when Bernie Sanders went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, being a Jewish Russophile was NOT noxious. I guess it really depends on which Russians you love. Since the downfall of Communism, the Left and the Right have completely swapped their positions on love of Russia. But everyone in America today seems to have the attention span of a flea and no sense of irony.

    Truthfully the honeymoon between Jews and Russians (even Russian Communists) was relatively brief, starting with the Revolution and ending with the birth of Israel. Communism was supposed to be internationalist but in truth Soviet Communism was jealously nationalist (a circle that they never really squared) so there was no room for divided loyalty. But it took a while for the Jewish Fellow Travelers in the West to get the message that the love affair back home was over and they continued to love Russia even after Russia no longer loved them back.

  56. Well, there’s one good thing you can say about Hitler; he was never partial to Slavs.

  57. ‘Nosferatu’ is just a synonym for ‘vampire’.

    The name of the vampire in the film Nosferatu was ‘Count Orlok.’

    I have never seen that film, but I have seen two other F W Murnau films, Faust, and Sunrise: A song of Two Humans.

    I recommend both for people interested in cinematography. Sunrise has beautiful pictorialism-esque cinematography, as well as some interesting effects.

  58. @Desiderius
    So here's a good follow:

    https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1269701193992933377?s=20

    Interesting that Churchill came up in that context since I just caught this last night:

    https://youtu.be/BeXOQIwPRoU?t=283

    Kind of eerie that I've been saying the exact same thing about the flaw in American education that Nixon convicted the Chinese of fifty years ago. Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted.

    If someone who is on Twitter could pass this clip along to AgeofShoddy I'd appreciate it.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @nebulafox

    That video shows the cuckish nature of Nixon. The biggest thing in the heart of a soft White fella is to connect emotionally with a Leftist.

    Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted

    God, let’s hope so!

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @RichardTaylor

    In The Crown Churchill has the most stereotypically upper class British manner, although he has some close competition form Tommy Lascelles and Lord Mountbatten, not from any of the Royals other than Mountbatten, IMHO. Others, including at least one peer, Lord Altringham, are like Ducky Mallard's British buddies (in London, he's the only Scot) in an episode of NCIS where he goes back home to meet a frenemy who stole (and married) his girl, back in the day. They have very mild accents, they could almost be Americans, Northeasterners, of course. Ducky's frenemy is the only one I remember who has a mildly posh manner.

    Also in the Crown, McMillan seems to me to be almost like a certain type of New Englander, maybe exemplified by Silent Cal Coolidge (who was one of the characters in For Greater Glory.)

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  59. Welp.
    It is all over for DJT.
    This womyn that everyone reads everyday called Trump a: Nosferatu !
    No way he recovers from that.

  60. Does the New York Times even fact check its opinion columnists?

  61. Is Jennifer Senior a Jew?

    Jews are perfectly at home in the Anglosphere and among WASP Elites. And Jews tend to HATE Russia and Russians, and have unrelenting contempt for other Slavs.

    There is meaning there for those able to see and hear.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Jake

    The NYT has realized that we've caught on to their "Dear Fellow White People" routine.

    So they're ramping up the game a bit today:


    An Open Letter to My Fellow White Christians

    Our sins are grievous, but we are not yet beyond redemption.

    By Margaret Renkl
    Contributing Opinion Writer
    June 8, 2020

    NASHVILLE — Since long before it was a country, our country has been in flames. When we arrived on our big ships and decimated this land’s original peoples with our viruses and our guns, when we used our Christian faith as a justification for killing both “heretic” and “heathen,” we founded this country in flames. And every month, every week, every day, for the last 400 years, we have been setting new fires.

    White Christians who came before us captured human beings and beat them and raped them and stole their babies from them and stole their parents from them and stole their husbands and their wives from them and locked them in chains and made them work in inhuman conditions. Our spiritual ancestors went to church and listened to their pastors argue that these human beings weren’t human at all.

    Our pastors don’t tell us that anymore, but we are still setting fires.

    Christians set a fire every time we allow our leaders to weaponize our fears against us. We set a fire every time our faith in good police officers prevents us from seeing the bad ones. Christian voters preserve a system that permits police violence, unjust prosecutions and hellhole prisons filled with people who should have received the same addiction treatment we give our own troubled kids.

    We set a fire every time we fail to scrutinize a police culture that allows an officer’s own fear and hatred to justify the most casual brutality against another human being.

    Make yourself look. Study the air of perfect nonchalance on Derek Chauvin’s face as he kneels on the neck of George Floyd. Register the blithe indifference in his posture, the way he puts his hand in his pocket as though he were just walking along the street on a sunny summer day. Nothing in his whole body suggests concern. He is not the least bit troubled by taking another human life.

    We created Derek Chauvin.
     

    See how bad you are, My Fellow White Christians? You created all the Evil in the world--TD is so right about you all--and collective guilt applies to White Christians, oh you'd better believe it does. Remember, White Speech is Violence, White Silence is Violence. White Action is Violence, White inaction is violence.

    If you're beginning to get the idea, my FWC people, that "we" believe violence against you is justified, always and everywhere, you're beginning to catch on. Have a nice day!

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Jake

    , @Bill Jones
    @Jake

    "Is Jennifer Senior a Jew?"

    Do you have to ask?

    That question replaces my initial one "Is the Pope Catholic?" because their is currently doubt as to the Papacy.

  62. @ScarletNumber

    partial to Slavs
     
    According to Google that phrase has never been used before. So that's something.

    Replies: @JohnnyD, @Percy Gryce

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Percy Gryce

    That's a translation.

  63. @Reg Cæsar

    Yup, that’s what she said: “partial to Slavs.”
     
    Great. That should help him in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Wisconsin.

    Jest stronniczy w stosunku do Słowian! To jest funkcja, a nie błąd!

    Replies: @Lot

    I don’t think most Polish Americans in the Midwest and PA are aware Poles are part of a larger Slavic group.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Lot


    I don’t think most Polish Americans in the Midwest and PA are aware Poles are part of a larger Slavic group.
     
    Clearly it's time they learned!
  64. @newrouter
    A multicultural society:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KRc-ceWE2E

    Replies: @anon

    over the past week I have become conscious of anything “ghetto” in my life or appearing on TV – now I take steps to banish such things instead of allowing it to pollute me.
    No more football, etc.
    I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @anon

    And, sort of topically, they were Minnesotans.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.
     
    They were seen as a joke at the time, as was Sammy Kaye. The Osmonds of the '40s.
  65. The walls are closing in! The beginning of the end! Bombshell!

  66. Anon[341] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump partial to Slavs, coming from a Jewess? Takes one to know one. He must’ve picked that up from working with the Jews since his early days in NYC. After all, how many hundreds of years did the Jews try to conquer Poland, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and most of all, Russia? Jews are practically obsessed with the Slavs. Ashkenazi Jews are from Eastern Europe, hence many are mixed with Slavs.

  67. @anonymous
    Rather a strange comment. Writer apparently thinks Slavs, a very broad group, are bad in some unspecified way. Melania is the best looking first lady in the entire history of the US, is multi-lingual and obviously intelligent. She'd be getting glowing press treatment were she the spouse of any other president. Put her next to this Senior person and choose which one you prefer.

    Replies: @Anon

    She’d be getting glowing press treatment were she the spouse of any other president.

    I don’t know. The accent kinda killed it. She also comes across a little cold. First Ladies have to be all American, warm and bubbly to be popular.

    • Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
    @Anon

    One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and "foreign", but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her. I see her as the opposite to a lot of popular female celebrities - say an actress like Reese Witherspoon, for example - who come across as warm and bubbly on the surface, but are unmistakably brittle underneath.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @anonymous
    @Anon


    First Ladies have to be all American, warm and bubbly to be popular.
     
    Yeah, like big-shouldered, scowling bug-eyed Michelle Obama.
  68. Twice as many blacks were killed in Chicago on May 31, 2020, as were unarmed blacks killed by police in the entire United States in all of 2019.

  69. Nosferatu is Dracula is Vlad the Impaler is Vladimir Putin?

  70. @Desiderius
    So here's a good follow:

    https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1269701193992933377?s=20

    Interesting that Churchill came up in that context since I just caught this last night:

    https://youtu.be/BeXOQIwPRoU?t=283

    Kind of eerie that I've been saying the exact same thing about the flaw in American education that Nixon convicted the Chinese of fifty years ago. Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted.

    If someone who is on Twitter could pass this clip along to AgeofShoddy I'd appreciate it.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @nebulafox

    I think it was cool of Nixon to do that. Ever since McKinley’s assassination, the Presidency has been a protected bubble by necessity. One of the few times that bubble was pierced, and he did it at a time of unrest where he was probably really was risking his physical security.

    As far as the greater point goes, when you make credentionalism a purpose unto itself, you get a society befitting that. Part of the explosion of mental illness in the younger generation probably has something to do with the nonstop feeling of going across a proverbial minefield. The wrong mistake, from an ill-timed comment to the wrong grade, and you blow yourself up. This is assuming you aren’t already screwed before you realized what the stakes ever were, which includes a lot of “lumpy” talent: diamonds in the rough, late bloomers or misfits, whatever you want to call it.

    One of the big strengths of the US has traditionally been that lumpy talent has had the ability to make something of itself, but that’s become less and less true over the past few decades as the pseudo-meritocracy entrenched itself. Perversely, we rhetorically praise difference and the willingness to be different more than ever, while in reality, tolerating the real stuff less than ever.

    • Agree: snorlax, CJ
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @nebulafox

    I think that the opposite has become the case, and the resentment among our elites (sic) arising from that drives the present madness. See the movie Young Adult to see this reality distilled. People who dodge the bullet of "making it" end up having productive, happy lives while those uprooted to join the elite end up miserable failures.

  71. @Anonymous
    I’m a Slav, and in the interests of full transparency, I did receive the support packet the neurotic Jewess below is concerned about. I just want to add that it’s about time us Slavs got some love. Ever since the dissolution of Czechoslovakia, we never get to have anything nice around Eastern Europe!

    https://twitter.com/joshlecash/status/1270090115130380288?s=20

    Replies: @anon, @Kyle

    At least she knows she needs confirmation of what is real. Someone could start by informing her she is on planet earth.

  72. @trelane
    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.

    Why wouldn't a normal man be partial to one? Listen to her speak.

    https://youtu.be/Gdb_gjyyvpo?t=57

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Russ, @J1234

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @JohnnyWalker123


    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?
     
    Maybe.

    One of the few things the EU did right was aggressively banning harmful and questionable food additives that are perfectly legal in the US:

    Food Ingredients Banned in Europe But Not USA

    https://lactobacto.com/2019/01/16/food-ingredients-banned-in-europe-but-not-usa/
    , @SFG
    @JohnnyWalker123

    They put sugar in everything over here, including bread.

    , @Sparkon
    @JohnnyWalker123


    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women.
     
    But it was not always so. In my youth during the '50s & '60s, most American women were slender and well-groomed, and virtually none of them engaged in any organized sports.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?
     
    That, and high-fructose corn syrup, introduced in the 1970s, and especially non-caloric artificial sweeteners like Aspartame, approved in 1974, which reduce the satiety signal, among other bad effects on the body's microbiome leading to inflammation, and weight gain, along with even more serious health outcomes like cancer, brain tumors, cardiovascular disease, seizures, strokes, dementia, Alzheimer's disease, mood disorders, and kidney function decline.

    With all that, weight gain, increased appetite, and obesity might seem like relatively minor problems, if you can stand fat chicks.

    Aspartame: Decades of Science Point to Serious Health Risks

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Flip
    @JohnnyWalker123

    High fructose corn syrup in America

    , @Anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    They walk instead of driving. Less junk food.

  73. could be code for “Trump is a Russian asset”, inline with their 3 year long hoax.

  74. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    In another context the remark could potentially be funny — not hilarious, but passable. However, she overestimated her own wit, as putting in time at the shrillest, most bonkers, most superstitious op-ed page of the major dailies can do to you. Prestigious Racism forms the vanguard against Supremacist Mind Waves

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Anonymous

    When husband and wife are both New York writers, there's probably subtle but intense in-house pressure to out-woke each other

  75. University educated American SJW’s are so dumb: Slavs are not Russians. I know what she meant, but Slavs are not Russians.

    I so hate American, Coastal, Ivy-League educated, Democrat-voting women…they are so obnoxious and mostly, ugly who no man would want. I hated these women in college, and I hate them more now. They deserve to die alone and unloved by anyone – they have caused so much destruction to Milennials. No one cares about them, especially after Covid year, 2020…all those miserable cheerleaders of death and disease need to just disappear.

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
  76. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyD
    @ScarletNumber

    There is the term "Slavophile." These were 19th century Russian intellectuals, including Dostoevsky, who sought to unite all the Slavic people against Western Europe. But I don't think this is what Ms. Senoir had in mind.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous

    I hadn’t thought the time ripe for an e-campaign to rebrand MAGA as Alt-Existentialism with memey codewords/dog whistles of esoteric reference to the Underground Man; but no matter how off the mark it is, it would at least really confuse the New York media drones.

  77. @Anonymous
    @Hibernian


    Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.
     
    If you want to know what's going on in NYC you read the Post. If you want to know what's really going on in the heads of the power elite, you read the Jewish Daily Forward, and a few other periodicals. The New York Times is only good for bird cage lining, provided you don't mind offending the intelligence of the bird.

    There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called "the Dom" which stood for "Polski Dom (something)".

    People

    Jonas Mekas
    Lou Reed
    Moe Tucker
    Sterling Morrison
    John Cale

    The Velvet Underground continued playing for these Factory-produced events, renamed the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, a continuation of multimedia experiments that were taking place downtown. Elaine Summers had already staged her Fantastic Gardens mixed-media event in February 1964 at Judson Church, where film projections were splashed on the ceiling, walls, and floor, and the audience participated with small handheld mirrors. The results were stunning, and unprecedented. As the space was enveloped by a cacophony of lighting effects, music, movement, spoken word, and cinema, dance pioneer Sally Stackhouse performed on the balcony in front of a film of herself dancing. In his Village Voice column, Jonas Mekas argued that Fantastic Gardens was “by far the most successful and most ambitious attempt to use the many possible combinations of film and live action to create an aesthetic experience.” Two years later, Warhol did much the same when he projected performance footage of the Velvet Underground while they played in the Exploding Plastic Inevitable at the Dom.

    From Chapter 11 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore
    Debbie Harry and Chris Stein Discover the Velvet Underground
    People

    Chris Stein
    Debbie Harry
    Joey Freeman

    The Velvet Underground won over future Blondie cofounders Debbie Harry and Chris Stein, who saw them on separate occasions around 1967. “The stage was bright and colorful and beautiful,” Harry said of a show she saw not long after she moved to the Lower East Side. “I remember Nico was wearing a chartreuse outfit and it was stunning. It was just beautiful to look at, as well as to hear, and I remember Andy being there in the balcony. Andy Warhol was running the lights, and it was just this beautiful burst of colors and vibrations. The projections behind them were just so lovely and impressionistic, but also dark and scary at the same time. I guess I was drawn to the darkness.” Stein and his teenage pals loved the group’s debut album, and one day in 1967 they realized every garage band’s dream: opening for the Velvet Underground. “My friend Joey Freeman’s job was basically to go wake up Andy at his house,” Stein recalled, “and one day he told me that the band that was supposed to open for the Velvet Underground had cancelled. We just went up there, set up, and played at a place called the Gymnasium.” That casual pickup band was sometimes known as First Crow on the Moon, which Stein didn’t really take seriously, but the show itself was a life-changing event. “That Velvet Underground show was completely awesome, in every sense of that word,” Stein said. “It was just overpowering.”

    From Chapter 15 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore
     
    also
    https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/



    Indeed, Warhol was originally "Warhola", and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .

    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church


    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church is a historic Eastern Catholic church in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States. It is located in the neighborhood of Four Mile Run, which is an isolated section of Greenfield at the bottom of Junction Hollow. Its address is 506 Saline Street.

    Today it is best known for having been the family church of the artist Andy Warhol. Because it faces the heavily traveled Interstate 376, or Parkway East, it is an architectural landmark for many commuters who look upon its onion domes and Slavic-style crosses.
     

    Replies: @Anon 2, @RSDB

    Andy Warhol was of Slovak origin, as was Kim Novak

    • Replies: @william munny
    @Anon 2

    He was Rusyn. The Carpathians are where the East and West Slavic nations collide. Don't you dare tell them they are the same people, no matter what the DNA might say.

  78. Trump should stop being partial to slavs and instead date someone else, say for instance, Jennifer Senior.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Tusk

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Bardon Kaldian

  79. @Anonymous
    @Hibernian


    Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.
     
    If you want to know what's going on in NYC you read the Post. If you want to know what's really going on in the heads of the power elite, you read the Jewish Daily Forward, and a few other periodicals. The New York Times is only good for bird cage lining, provided you don't mind offending the intelligence of the bird.

    There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called "the Dom" which stood for "Polski Dom (something)".

    People

    Jonas Mekas
    Lou Reed
    Moe Tucker
    Sterling Morrison
    John Cale

    The Velvet Underground continued playing for these Factory-produced events, renamed the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, a continuation of multimedia experiments that were taking place downtown. Elaine Summers had already staged her Fantastic Gardens mixed-media event in February 1964 at Judson Church, where film projections were splashed on the ceiling, walls, and floor, and the audience participated with small handheld mirrors. The results were stunning, and unprecedented. As the space was enveloped by a cacophony of lighting effects, music, movement, spoken word, and cinema, dance pioneer Sally Stackhouse performed on the balcony in front of a film of herself dancing. In his Village Voice column, Jonas Mekas argued that Fantastic Gardens was “by far the most successful and most ambitious attempt to use the many possible combinations of film and live action to create an aesthetic experience.” Two years later, Warhol did much the same when he projected performance footage of the Velvet Underground while they played in the Exploding Plastic Inevitable at the Dom.

    From Chapter 11 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore
    Debbie Harry and Chris Stein Discover the Velvet Underground
    People

    Chris Stein
    Debbie Harry
    Joey Freeman

    The Velvet Underground won over future Blondie cofounders Debbie Harry and Chris Stein, who saw them on separate occasions around 1967. “The stage was bright and colorful and beautiful,” Harry said of a show she saw not long after she moved to the Lower East Side. “I remember Nico was wearing a chartreuse outfit and it was stunning. It was just beautiful to look at, as well as to hear, and I remember Andy being there in the balcony. Andy Warhol was running the lights, and it was just this beautiful burst of colors and vibrations. The projections behind them were just so lovely and impressionistic, but also dark and scary at the same time. I guess I was drawn to the darkness.” Stein and his teenage pals loved the group’s debut album, and one day in 1967 they realized every garage band’s dream: opening for the Velvet Underground. “My friend Joey Freeman’s job was basically to go wake up Andy at his house,” Stein recalled, “and one day he told me that the band that was supposed to open for the Velvet Underground had cancelled. We just went up there, set up, and played at a place called the Gymnasium.” That casual pickup band was sometimes known as First Crow on the Moon, which Stein didn’t really take seriously, but the show itself was a life-changing event. “That Velvet Underground show was completely awesome, in every sense of that word,” Stein said. “It was just overpowering.”

    From Chapter 15 of The Downtown Pop Underground — order online, or from a local independent bookstore
     
    also
    https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/



    Indeed, Warhol was originally "Warhola", and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .

    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church


    St. John Chrysostom Byzantine Catholic Church is a historic Eastern Catholic church in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States. It is located in the neighborhood of Four Mile Run, which is an isolated section of Greenfield at the bottom of Junction Hollow. Its address is 506 Saline Street.

    Today it is best known for having been the family church of the artist Andy Warhol. Because it faces the heavily traveled Interstate 376, or Parkway East, it is an architectural landmark for many commuters who look upon its onion domes and Slavic-style crosses.
     

    Replies: @Anon 2, @RSDB

    There seem to be an awful lot of Ukrainians in the East Village.

  80. @snorlax
    @JimB

    The moon landing could never have happened without sassy black ladies!

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Right? And though I don’t exactly hasten to add material in their favor, I do prefer R&B and Jazz to most Russian music I’ve heard. Maybe I’m biased through experience?

  81. @Chris Mallory
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.
     
    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon 2, @Anon 2, @S. Anonyia, @Anon5, @Jake

    Because they’re the finest writers the world has ever known.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Desiderius

    And best read in the original Slav, of course.

  82. @nebulafox
    @Desiderius

    I think it was cool of Nixon to do that. Ever since McKinley's assassination, the Presidency has been a protected bubble by necessity. One of the few times that bubble was pierced, and he did it at a time of unrest where he was probably really was risking his physical security.

    As far as the greater point goes, when you make credentionalism a purpose unto itself, you get a society befitting that. Part of the explosion of mental illness in the younger generation probably has something to do with the nonstop feeling of going across a proverbial minefield. The wrong mistake, from an ill-timed comment to the wrong grade, and you blow yourself up. This is assuming you aren't already screwed before you realized what the stakes ever were, which includes a lot of "lumpy" talent: diamonds in the rough, late bloomers or misfits, whatever you want to call it.

    One of the big strengths of the US has traditionally been that lumpy talent has had the ability to make something of itself, but that's become less and less true over the past few decades as the pseudo-meritocracy entrenched itself. Perversely, we rhetorically praise difference and the willingness to be different more than ever, while in reality, tolerating the real stuff less than ever.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    I think that the opposite has become the case, and the resentment among our elites (sic) arising from that drives the present madness. See the movie Young Adult to see this reality distilled. People who dodge the bullet of “making it” end up having productive, happy lives while those uprooted to join the elite end up miserable failures.

  83. @Tusk
    Trump should stop being partial to slavs and instead date someone else, say for instance, Jennifer Senior.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Steve Sailer

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    Trump married a Jew?

    Replies: @black sea, @sayless

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Steve Sailer

    A Jew? Ivana ex-Trump is a Czech, not a Jewish person.

    Steve should check his facts better.

  84. @Jake
    Is Jennifer Senior a Jew?

    Jews are perfectly at home in the Anglosphere and among WASP Elites. And Jews tend to HATE Russia and Russians, and have unrelenting contempt for other Slavs.

    There is meaning there for those able to see and hear.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Bill Jones

    The NYT has realized that we’ve caught on to their “Dear Fellow White People” routine.

    So they’re ramping up the game a bit today:

    [MORE]

    An Open Letter to My Fellow White Christians

    Our sins are grievous, but we are not yet beyond redemption.

    By Margaret Renkl
    Contributing Opinion Writer
    June 8, 2020

    NASHVILLE — Since long before it was a country, our country has been in flames. When we arrived on our big ships and decimated this land’s original peoples with our viruses and our guns, when we used our Christian faith as a justification for killing both “heretic” and “heathen,” we founded this country in flames. And every month, every week, every day, for the last 400 years, we have been setting new fires.

    White Christians who came before us captured human beings and beat them and raped them and stole their babies from them and stole their parents from them and stole their husbands and their wives from them and locked them in chains and made them work in inhuman conditions. Our spiritual ancestors went to church and listened to their pastors argue that these human beings weren’t human at all.

    Our pastors don’t tell us that anymore, but we are still setting fires.

    Christians set a fire every time we allow our leaders to weaponize our fears against us. We set a fire every time our faith in good police officers prevents us from seeing the bad ones. Christian voters preserve a system that permits police violence, unjust prosecutions and hellhole prisons filled with people who should have received the same addiction treatment we give our own troubled kids.

    We set a fire every time we fail to scrutinize a police culture that allows an officer’s own fear and hatred to justify the most casual brutality against another human being.

    Make yourself look. Study the air of perfect nonchalance on Derek Chauvin’s face as he kneels on the neck of George Floyd. Register the blithe indifference in his posture, the way he puts his hand in his pocket as though he were just walking along the street on a sunny summer day. Nothing in his whole body suggests concern. He is not the least bit troubled by taking another human life.

    We created Derek Chauvin.

    See how bad you are, My Fellow White Christians? You created all the Evil in the world–TD is so right about you all–and collective guilt applies to White Christians, oh you’d better believe it does. Remember, White Speech is Violence, White Silence is Violence. White Action is Violence, White inaction is violence.

    If you’re beginning to get the idea, my FWC people, that “we” believe violence against you is justified, always and everywhere, you’re beginning to catch on. Have a nice day!

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Mr McKenna

    Is this a 'real' Christian or a childless wine aunt?

    NYT - " She works for Humanities Tennessee, an independent affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities, as editor of Chapter 16, a daily web publication that documents the literary life of Tennessee. "

    Not what Ch16 says. She's not mentioned at all on their site. Editor is Maria Browning.

    https://chapter16.org/about-us/


    Growing up in Alabama, Renkl was a devoted reader, an explorer of riverbeds and red-dirt roads, and a fiercely loved daughter. Here, in brief essays, she traces a tender and honest portrait of her complicated parents—her exuberant, creative mother; her steady, supportive father—and of the bittersweet moments that accompany a child’s transition to caregiver.

    And here, braided into the overall narrative, Renkl offers observations on the world surrounding her suburban Nashville home. Ringing with rapture and heartache, these essays convey the dignity of bluebirds and rat snakes, monarch butterflies and native bees. As these two threads haunt and harmonize with each other, Renkl suggests that there is astonishment to be found in common things: in what seems ordinary, in what we all share. For in both worlds—the natural one and our own—“the shadow side of love is always loss, and grief is only love’s own twin.”
     
    I'll have twenty dollars on childless wine aunt at evens, please.
    , @Jake
    @Mr McKenna

    The movement to have all whites all agree to drop all their different ethnic cultures for some non-Elite form of WASP - you have no choice but to be white people as understood by WASPs - is exactly what the Elites of the Anglo-Zionist Empire desire. And they are not ignorant, nor are they stupid. When it comes to their insatiable desires to amass more power, they are as cunning as Satan's best student.

    Paul Gottfried is as good as its gets for Jews in recent academia. Even he is eaten up with anti-Slavic and pro-Germanic biases and bigotries (remember, Angles and Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Dutch, and Danes are linguistically and culturally Germanic: WASP is a Germanic culture). Gottfried asserts that the reason - perhaps almost the only reason - that so many Jews coming to the US starting in the 1870s were radical and criminal is that they came from the Russian Empire, or parts of Poland ruled by Austrians or Berliners. His idea is that those bad Jews were bad because of Slavic culture. Yet, the 'literary' language of 100% of them would have been Germanic (either Yiddish or standard German), and the primary daily language of nearly 100% of them would have Germanic (Yiddish).

    The Polish and Russian Jews were culturally and linguistically Germanic by choice. Did those Jews have low IQs? Did they get tricked into choosing Germanic?

    And how and why dd Jews switch from Continental Germanic to WASP Germanic?

    Are Jews both high IQ and very cunning and focused on advancing themselves at the expense of all others? If so, then Jewish choice of Germanic languages and cultures, as well as Jewish hatred of things Slavic, should tell you almost all you need to know about which European cultures are a way out of this horror story that is the Anglo-Zionist Empire.

  85. @Chris Mallory
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.
     
    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon 2, @Anon 2, @S. Anonyia, @Anon5, @Jake

    Re: This nation was not founded by Slavs

    Few people know that Captain John Smith went to Poland
    to recruit artisans before his famous voyage. They landed with him
    in 1607, and helped to establish what became known as the Jamestown
    colony. Even fewer people know that Poland and England were major allies
    at the time when Poland as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
    was at the height of its power around 1600, and was the largest and most powerful
    country in Europe. Poland was a major exporter of wheat, and Polish
    ships sailed regularly to London carrying wheat, etc. Shakespeare and Newton
    grew healthy and strong on Polish wheat. Polish merchants and seamen even
    had a small Polish section in London which is commemorated by Poland Street
    in the Soho district.

    Of course, I shouldn’t have to add that Gen. Kosciuszko from Poland played
    an important role in the American Revolution, was friends with both Washington
    and Jefferson, and designed West Point while Gen. Pulaski lost his life fighting
    for the independence of the new republic. There are many towns and even
    cities in the U.S, named Warsaw and Pulaski. There are more statues erected
    in the U.S. in honor of Gen. Kosciuszko than any other person except Washington.
    In fact one of them, located in front of the White House, was defaced in recent
    riots.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  86. @Chris Mallory
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.
     
    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon 2, @Anon 2, @S. Anonyia, @Anon5, @Jake

    There are about 15 million Slavic Americans, among them
    10 million Polish Americans. True, not very many compared
    to German- or Italian-Americans.

  87. I thought Nosferatu liked German birds?

  88. Rob says:

    Jews really dislike Slavs. It’s strong, and comes spewing out in odd contexts. Blonde jokes are largely slavophobic. Polish jokes are indisputably antislavitic. I can’t think of many others in an American context. American. I wonder what it comes from.

    Jews dislike all the ethnic groups they’ve had significant interactions with. Germans, Slavs, White Americans, Palestinians/Arabs…while today’s Jews in the professional/managerial class on up view blacks as useful stormtroopers against Whites, Jews who dealt on a day-to-day basis with blacks strongly disliked them. Though to be fair, blacks have that effect on most everyone. Is it fear turning to hate? Is it simply the inter group friction caused by different personality traits in different populations causing friction?

    Jews disliked WASPs (while coveting the women) because Jews were trying to displace WASPs, and in many ways, the two ethnics are opposites, at least in their stereotypical ideal incarnations. That doesn’t seem to be the cause of Jewish hatred for Slavs. Is it? It’s hard to exploit people and think highly of them at the same time. So that’s part of it. Maybe it was fear of the indebted and tax-farmed peasantry rising up. Or perhaps fear that the nobility would mount strong Westernizing campaigns, and uplifted peasantry would compete for the niches Jews occupied, as was mentioned in an earlier thread.

    Jack D, why do you have such a negative view of Slavs?

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Rob

    I worked in New York City for the better part of 10 years. Got to know many Jews, most of whom loved blacks in the abstract and disliked blacks in the particular.

    , @Jack D
    @Rob

    The question is why to Slavs have such negative views of Jews?

    The reality is that it wasn't all negative, in either direction. What you had going on was a love/hate thing, not unlike the relationship between blacks and whites in America. My parents had Polish friends their entire lives. In the war, there were Polish people who hid Jews at great risk to their lives and others who would rat them out to the Germans for a sack of sugar.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  89. @DextersLabRat
    Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.

    She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52ee8f54e4b0186ede027e97/1411487077985-7WV8NJ92I03096TDQM5T/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPXPXkDKELR1g_Z8WfKorcJ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1URa2vM_mLhkY6JSJWNdRLcMU-vJyRaTcmfwfpV6wiKO5_78dgROcH-kL0R2Wc765bg/JenniferSenior.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @JimB, @Colin Wright, @Jane Plain

    ‘Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.

    She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine.’

    It is hard to come up any other explanation for why she’d assume being ‘partial to Slavs’ was a bad thing.

  90. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:

    Probably some oblique overwrought ‘clever’ reference to Bram Stoker’s ‘Dracula’ drinking the blood of the locals in Transylvania, combined with the ethnicity of his missus.

  91. @Desiderius
    @Chris Mallory

    Because they're the finest writers the world has ever known.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    And best read in the original Slav, of course.

  92. @Steve Sailer
    @Tusk

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Bardon Kaldian

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    Trump married a Jew?

    • Replies: @black sea
    @kaganovitch

    If Ivana were Jewish, wouldn't Ivanka have been Jewish from birth, even if she was raised in a secular home? I mention this because people generally say that she converted to Judaism after marrying her husband.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    , @sayless
    @kaganovitch

    OT, kaganovitch, yes, Orthodox Jewish/Dominican, I live in Washington Heights.

  93. @Chris Mallory
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.
     
    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon 2, @Anon 2, @S. Anonyia, @Anon5, @Jake

    Because the myopic focus on American history is asinine as our country is only 250 years old. It leads to stupid ideas like American exceptionalism, the shining city on a hill, globohomo, and hysterical BLM mania.

    Americans are so ignorant of world history that many of them presume all societies that had slaves only used blacks. That is if they are even aware nations other than the U.S practiced slavery- some aren’t.

    Seriously the focus on American history is why we are so damned nutty. Because no one wants to be “on the wrong side of history” and we definitely present our saga as a good guys vs bad guys struggle.

  94. @415 reasons
    @inertial

    As a Slavic American I have to say I’m not actually offended in the slightest that the NYT is deploying this as an insult. I just wish others wouldn’t be so thin skinned. I know the world has gone crazy but I don’t actually get offended by Polish jokes. I’m sure a critical race theorist could swing in on a chandelier and explain how that shows just how entrenched my white privilege and unconscious bias are.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @stillCARealist

    People who want you dead see your sense of fair play and raise you weaponized fake-outrage.

    You call with good humor, and then they push all-in with unhinged oppression that the Cheka would find excessive.

    Your move.

    • Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
    @BenKenobi

    You respond with, "My people have overcome much, much worse throughout their long and distinguished history than petty insults from easily offended garbage like you. Your move."

  95. @kaganovitch
    @Steve Sailer

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    Trump married a Jew?

    Replies: @black sea, @sayless

    If Ivana were Jewish, wouldn’t Ivanka have been Jewish from birth, even if she was raised in a secular home? I mention this because people generally say that she converted to Judaism after marrying her husband.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @black sea

    Ivana, Trump’s first wife, was born Ivana Zelničkova in Czechoslovakia.
    She was Czech, not Jewish. Ivanka can speak some Czech.

  96. @black sea
    @kaganovitch

    If Ivana were Jewish, wouldn't Ivanka have been Jewish from birth, even if she was raised in a secular home? I mention this because people generally say that she converted to Judaism after marrying her husband.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    Ivana, Trump’s first wife, was born Ivana Zelničkova in Czechoslovakia.
    She was Czech, not Jewish. Ivanka can speak some Czech.

  97. Jennifer Senior is Jewish and apparently has their common view that Slavs are mostly useful for selling liquor to and for loaning money to at usurious rates (shylocking).

  98. @Chris Mallory
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.
     
    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon 2, @Anon 2, @S. Anonyia, @Anon5, @Jake

    I’ll take the bait:

    Pulaski, Kosciuszko, etc.

    • Replies: @Mike Zwick
    @Anon5

    And Mike Ditka, Mike Krzyzewski, Carl Yastrzemski etc..

  99. @Mr McKenna
    @Jake

    The NYT has realized that we've caught on to their "Dear Fellow White People" routine.

    So they're ramping up the game a bit today:


    An Open Letter to My Fellow White Christians

    Our sins are grievous, but we are not yet beyond redemption.

    By Margaret Renkl
    Contributing Opinion Writer
    June 8, 2020

    NASHVILLE — Since long before it was a country, our country has been in flames. When we arrived on our big ships and decimated this land’s original peoples with our viruses and our guns, when we used our Christian faith as a justification for killing both “heretic” and “heathen,” we founded this country in flames. And every month, every week, every day, for the last 400 years, we have been setting new fires.

    White Christians who came before us captured human beings and beat them and raped them and stole their babies from them and stole their parents from them and stole their husbands and their wives from them and locked them in chains and made them work in inhuman conditions. Our spiritual ancestors went to church and listened to their pastors argue that these human beings weren’t human at all.

    Our pastors don’t tell us that anymore, but we are still setting fires.

    Christians set a fire every time we allow our leaders to weaponize our fears against us. We set a fire every time our faith in good police officers prevents us from seeing the bad ones. Christian voters preserve a system that permits police violence, unjust prosecutions and hellhole prisons filled with people who should have received the same addiction treatment we give our own troubled kids.

    We set a fire every time we fail to scrutinize a police culture that allows an officer’s own fear and hatred to justify the most casual brutality against another human being.

    Make yourself look. Study the air of perfect nonchalance on Derek Chauvin’s face as he kneels on the neck of George Floyd. Register the blithe indifference in his posture, the way he puts his hand in his pocket as though he were just walking along the street on a sunny summer day. Nothing in his whole body suggests concern. He is not the least bit troubled by taking another human life.

    We created Derek Chauvin.
     

    See how bad you are, My Fellow White Christians? You created all the Evil in the world--TD is so right about you all--and collective guilt applies to White Christians, oh you'd better believe it does. Remember, White Speech is Violence, White Silence is Violence. White Action is Violence, White inaction is violence.

    If you're beginning to get the idea, my FWC people, that "we" believe violence against you is justified, always and everywhere, you're beginning to catch on. Have a nice day!

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Jake

    Is this a ‘real’ Christian or a childless wine aunt?

    NYT – ” She works for Humanities Tennessee, an independent affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities, as editor of Chapter 16, a daily web publication that documents the literary life of Tennessee. ”

    Not what Ch16 says. She’s not mentioned at all on their site. Editor is Maria Browning.

    https://chapter16.org/about-us/

    Growing up in Alabama, Renkl was a devoted reader, an explorer of riverbeds and red-dirt roads, and a fiercely loved daughter. Here, in brief essays, she traces a tender and honest portrait of her complicated parents—her exuberant, creative mother; her steady, supportive father—and of the bittersweet moments that accompany a child’s transition to caregiver.

    And here, braided into the overall narrative, Renkl offers observations on the world surrounding her suburban Nashville home. Ringing with rapture and heartache, these essays convey the dignity of bluebirds and rat snakes, monarch butterflies and native bees. As these two threads haunt and harmonize with each other, Renkl suggests that there is astonishment to be found in common things: in what seems ordinary, in what we all share. For in both worlds—the natural one and our own—“the shadow side of love is always loss, and grief is only love’s own twin.”

    I’ll have twenty dollars on childless wine aunt at evens, please.

  100. @Steve Sailer
    @Tusk

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Bardon Kaldian

    A Jew? Ivana ex-Trump is a Czech, not a Jewish person.

    Steve should check his facts better.

  101. She is not altogether wrong (despite idiotic phrasing). Slavophone world is impervious to self-destructive negrolatry. Trump is close to that position, although, of course, in a completely different cultural context.

  102. @Mr McKenna
    That is so bizarre. Slavs? Granted, the NYT hates Eastern Europe because 1) they're white and 2) Poland and especially Hungary have resisted the Flood to some degree, but Slavs per se? I wonder if she knows the etymology.

    thus far impervious to destruction.
     
    That's the part that keeps them up nights. "We've tried everything!"

    As many here have noted, Trump is hardly our idea of an ideal leader, but he annoys the royal F out of them and for that, we thank him.

    Replies: @Coemgen, @AnotherGuessModel

    As many here have noted, Trump is hardly our idea of an ideal leader …

    Why the snark?

    Barack Obama is considered an “ideal leader” by many.

    Is it a good thing for us to have deified (apotheosized) “leaders” incarnate?

  103. Apparently God Himself is partial to Slavs:

    1. He gave them the largest territory on earth, stretching from the Oder river
    all the way to Vladivostok;

    2. He gave them the largest population in Europe, 240 million people.

    Poland, for example, is a nation of storytellers. It has a higher number
    of Nobel Prizes in Literature per capita than either Russia or the U. S.
    Sapkowski’s worldwide success is not an accident. Sapkowski is known
    for the Witcher Saga and the Hussite Trilogy.

  104. Nosferatu was an anti-Semitic meme in its day.

    Doesn’t this woman even know the history of anti-Semitism.

    More education required.

  105. If an NYT columnist calls Donald Trump Nosferatu, does this mean the end of the gothic vampire romance.

  106. SFG says:
    @inertial
    I did a search in the comments on 'Slav' in the comments. There was only one comment that references this phrase - someone said that it made him laugh.

    I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad

    They do delete sufficiently critical comments.

    I’m guessing the Polish/Czech/Hungarian jetsetter with Ivy degrees who reads the NYT thinks she’s either (a) referring to Putin and Russia, in which case no problem, because a lot of these other countries resent Russia for pretty sound historical reasons or (b) one of those nasty provincial people back home who voted for Kaczynski, Orban, etc., not her, a nice person who reads the NYT and thinks Soros is a good guy. (If she is Russian, file under (b).)

    Slavic-Americans of other persuasions would be less likely to read the NYT.

    Or she’s got parentheses, in which case she chuckles at the dig at those Cossacks she remembers from a story handed down by great-Grandma or Fiddler on the Roof.

    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    @SFG

    Hungarians are not Slavs.

    Replies: @Anon 2

  107. Such a confusing comment.

    After wracking my brains, I decided that maybe “partial to Slavs” is not meant to be a flaw – after all, her list of Trump’s traits also includes “impervious to destruction”. But then in what sense is the original Nosferatu “partial to Slavs”? Well, he lives among them and preys upon them. So is she trying to make us see Ivana and Melania as brides of Dracula? In which case it is a Trumpophobic remark, not a Slavophobic one.

    However, obviously most people interpreted it as Slavophobic. And I’ve learned enough about American elites by now to expect a Slavophobic journalist to be Jewish, an expectation which turned out to be true in this case. So even if the most coherent reading of the phrase that I can find, is Trumpophobic, is it nonetheless intended to sound Slavophobic?

    Faced with all these ambiguities, I retreat to simpler bedrock convictions, such as my belief that the New York Times is a blight on western culture. I wish it would cease to exist. But apparently it is becoming more influential as local newspapers go out of business.

  108. @Desiderius
    @JohnnyD

    No, that's exactly what she had in mind.

    Orthodoxy is sexy and winning converts. This underlying dynamic is why they were so paranoid about Putin and are so paranoid about Orban (although Huns are only Slav adjacent, Poles like Posobiec also set off alram bells) in the first place.

    Replies: @SFG

    You have the history and tradition of the Catholic Church without the truly horrifying pedophilia scandal.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @SFG

    How much of this "truly horrifying pedophilia scandal" is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

    , @Dissident
    @SFG

    I have copied below YetAnotherAnon's response to this comment of yours that appears further down in the thread, as his echoes my own. Below his quoted comment, please find additional questions and material of my own.


    How much of this “truly horrifying pedophilia scandal” is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?
     
    To SFG and anyone else who shares the view he expressed, I would ask the following questions.

    On what basis do you feel confident making such a summary condemnation? How much do you actually know about the matter-in-question? How much time and effort have you invested in informing yourself of what the other side-- those that dissent from the prevailing, Respectable, Main Stream Media-promoted Narrative-- have to say? Have you sought-out any sources that defend or even merely give voice to any of the accused or even convicted entities?

    Have you considered whether the use of the term pedophilia in reporting on the scandal, as opposed to pederasty, may reflect a deliberate effort to deceive? An effort to deflect attention from any specifically homosexual aspect of the scandal? Of the accusers, how many were prepubescent children-- girls and boys, respectively? How many post-pubescent adolescent males?

    Related:
    This comment from this past January 15th, in which I cited and linked-to this comment by HA from August 2018, and also linked-to the article Homosexuality and the Church Crisis (Brian Clowes, 2010)

  109. @JohnnyWalker123
    @trelane

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    Maybe.

    One of the few things the EU did right was aggressively banning harmful and questionable food additives that are perfectly legal in the US:

    Food Ingredients Banned in Europe But Not USA

    https://lactobacto.com/2019/01/16/food-ingredients-banned-in-europe-but-not-usa/

  110. @Mr McKenna
    That is so bizarre. Slavs? Granted, the NYT hates Eastern Europe because 1) they're white and 2) Poland and especially Hungary have resisted the Flood to some degree, but Slavs per se? I wonder if she knows the etymology.

    thus far impervious to destruction.
     
    That's the part that keeps them up nights. "We've tried everything!"

    As many here have noted, Trump is hardly our idea of an ideal leader, but he annoys the royal F out of them and for that, we thank him.

    Replies: @Coemgen, @AnotherGuessModel

    Slavs per se? I wonder if she knows the etymology.

    Slav actually means “fame and glory”, which explains why it is in so many Slavic first names, but yeah, it is also the root word of “slave” for a historical reason.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @AnotherGuessModel

    Technically, you are right. Just, it seems that, etymologically, self-referential word "slovo" (letter, word,..) is the root for all Slavophone native speakers (you have both /a/ & /o/ options: sla- & slo-).

    So, "Slavs" are those who speak or those whose words can be understood. For all Slavic speakers, Germans, their closest "other" neighbors, were N(i)emci, i.e. those who are "mute", people whose language is incomprehensible.

  111. @BenKenobi
    @415 reasons

    People who want you dead see your sense of fair play and raise you weaponized fake-outrage.

    You call with good humor, and then they push all-in with unhinged oppression that the Cheka would find excessive.

    Your move.

    Replies: @AnotherGuessModel

    You respond with, “My people have overcome much, much worse throughout their long and distinguished history than petty insults from easily offended garbage like you. Your move.”

  112. @Anon
    @anonymous


    She’d be getting glowing press treatment were she the spouse of any other president.
     
    I don't know. The accent kinda killed it. She also comes across a little cold. First Ladies have to be all American, warm and bubbly to be popular.

    Replies: @AnotherGuessModel, @anonymous

    One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and “foreign”, but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her. I see her as the opposite to a lot of popular female celebrities – say an actress like Reese Witherspoon, for example – who come across as warm and bubbly on the surface, but are unmistakably brittle underneath.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @AnotherGuessModel

    One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and “foreign”, but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her.


    Perhaps it endears her to you, but I doubt it endears you to her. In all likelihood she doesn't know anything about you. (How did I Do, Reg?)

    Replies: @AnotherGuessModel

  113. @inertial
    I did a search in the comments on 'Slav' in the comments. There was only one comment that references this phrase - someone said that it made him laugh.

    I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad

    it’s a funny failure on their part anyway. We Slavs are unoffendable, bar blatantly calling for genocide. Anything else is treated simply as bantz

  114. @JohnnyWalker123
    @trelane

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon

    They put sugar in everything over here, including bread.

  115. @JimDandy
    Donald Trump, Slavophile. As if today's rhetoric wasn't already like something straight out of Dostoyevsky's Demons.

    Replies: @william munny

    I just read that for the first time last week and it felt very timely for a book written by a dead guy in a Slavic country.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @william munny

    I just finished it (for the first time) last week. I had been hearing people saying exactly what you say about it for the past few years--from Jordan Peterson to the late Justin Raimondo over at AntiWar.com. Y'all are right.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @The Last Real Calvinist

  116. @Mister.Baseball
    @JohnnyD

    It's all part of Trump's reverse holocaust plans:

    https://twitter.com/JakeTurx/status/1270131159360581641

    Replies: @Not Only Wrathful

    This poor, tortured girl needs an intervention. Just because her pain is not emanating from where she thinks it is, it doesn’t mean it isn’t real.

  117. @Anon 2
    @Anonymous

    Andy Warhol was of Slovak origin, as was Kim Novak

    Replies: @william munny

    He was Rusyn. The Carpathians are where the East and West Slavic nations collide. Don’t you dare tell them they are the same people, no matter what the DNA might say.

  118. @anon
    @newrouter

    over the past week I have become conscious of anything "ghetto" in my life or appearing on TV - now I take steps to banish such things instead of allowing it to pollute me.
    No more football, etc.
    I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Reg Cæsar

    And, sort of topically, they were Minnesotans.

  119. @Chris Mallory
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course.
     
    Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon 2, @Anon 2, @S. Anonyia, @Anon5, @Jake

    Really?

    So let’s actually think about that rather than simply regurgitating the utter stupidities of VDARE.

    Quakers, Unitarians, and Universalists were all planted here from dear old England by 1790. I assert that per capita they did as much for nascent Leftism in the US as did the Jews later. In fact, without the WASP born and bred heretical groups, Jews never could have hoped to hit the ground running when they began to arrive in large numbers.

    And then there is the sordid history of Leftism produced by the church that is the direct descendants of New England Anglo-Saxon Puritans: Congregational. Have you any idea of how much ultra liberalism Congregationalists produced just in the 18th and 19th centuries?

    The vast majority of Congregationalist churches formed the United Church of Christ in the 1950s. It has been the most overall Liberal church in the country since then.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jake

    This is insanity squared. The number of people even nominally associated with some body of Congregationalists, Unitarians, or Quakers in this country sums to fewer than two million and none of these bodies have ever been consequential outside of New England and Pennsylvania.

    Replies: @Jake, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

  120. @Rob
    Jews really dislike Slavs. It’s strong, and comes spewing out in odd contexts. Blonde jokes are largely slavophobic. Polish jokes are indisputably antislavitic. I can’t think of many others in an American context. American. I wonder what it comes from.

    Jews dislike all the ethnic groups they’ve had significant interactions with. Germans, Slavs, White Americans, Palestinians/Arabs...while today’s Jews in the professional/managerial class on up view blacks as useful stormtroopers against Whites, Jews who dealt on a day-to-day basis with blacks strongly disliked them. Though to be fair, blacks have that effect on most everyone. Is it fear turning to hate? Is it simply the inter group friction caused by different personality traits in different populations causing friction?

    Jews disliked WASPs (while coveting the women) because Jews were trying to displace WASPs, and in many ways, the two ethnics are opposites, at least in their stereotypical ideal incarnations. That doesn’t seem to be the cause of Jewish hatred for Slavs. Is it? It’s hard to exploit people and think highly of them at the same time. So that’s part of it. Maybe it was fear of the indebted and tax-farmed peasantry rising up. Or perhaps fear that the nobility would mount strong Westernizing campaigns, and uplifted peasantry would compete for the niches Jews occupied, as was mentioned in an earlier thread.

    Jack D, why do you have such a negative view of Slavs?

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Jack D

    I worked in New York City for the better part of 10 years. Got to know many Jews, most of whom loved blacks in the abstract and disliked blacks in the particular.

  121. @AnotherGuessModel
    @Mr McKenna


    Slavs per se? I wonder if she knows the etymology.
     
    Slav actually means "fame and glory", which explains why it is in so many Slavic first names, but yeah, it is also the root word of "slave" for a historical reason.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Technically, you are right. Just, it seems that, etymologically, self-referential word “slovo” (letter, word,..) is the root for all Slavophone native speakers (you have both /a/ & /o/ options: sla- & slo-).

    So, “Slavs” are those who speak or those whose words can be understood. For all Slavic speakers, Germans, their closest “other” neighbors, were N(i)emci, i.e. those who are “mute”, people whose language is incomprehensible.

  122. @Rob
    Jews really dislike Slavs. It’s strong, and comes spewing out in odd contexts. Blonde jokes are largely slavophobic. Polish jokes are indisputably antislavitic. I can’t think of many others in an American context. American. I wonder what it comes from.

    Jews dislike all the ethnic groups they’ve had significant interactions with. Germans, Slavs, White Americans, Palestinians/Arabs...while today’s Jews in the professional/managerial class on up view blacks as useful stormtroopers against Whites, Jews who dealt on a day-to-day basis with blacks strongly disliked them. Though to be fair, blacks have that effect on most everyone. Is it fear turning to hate? Is it simply the inter group friction caused by different personality traits in different populations causing friction?

    Jews disliked WASPs (while coveting the women) because Jews were trying to displace WASPs, and in many ways, the two ethnics are opposites, at least in their stereotypical ideal incarnations. That doesn’t seem to be the cause of Jewish hatred for Slavs. Is it? It’s hard to exploit people and think highly of them at the same time. So that’s part of it. Maybe it was fear of the indebted and tax-farmed peasantry rising up. Or perhaps fear that the nobility would mount strong Westernizing campaigns, and uplifted peasantry would compete for the niches Jews occupied, as was mentioned in an earlier thread.

    Jack D, why do you have such a negative view of Slavs?

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Jack D

    The question is why to Slavs have such negative views of Jews?

    The reality is that it wasn’t all negative, in either direction. What you had going on was a love/hate thing, not unlike the relationship between blacks and whites in America. My parents had Polish friends their entire lives. In the war, there were Polish people who hid Jews at great risk to their lives and others who would rat them out to the Germans for a sack of sugar.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Jews were populous enough to be obtrusive in Eastern Europe and there was a considerable period of time when you had a great deal of occupational segmentation on ethnic and confessional lines. The extreme case was in interwar Poland, wherein 10% of the population was Jewish and most merchants, artisans, and professionals were Jewish or German. In Hungary a century ago, north of 40% of those who passed state baccalaureate examinations were Jews. In Roumania, Jews were about 5% of the population. What was salient there was that Roumanian boyars by the early 20th century had commonly given up active management of their holdings and subcontracted that to a class of entrepreneurs that you see confusingly referred to as 'tenant farmers'. The people who operated these agricultural trusts were commonly Jews and the most common Jewish-gentile relation was between the Roumanian peasant and the Jewish tenant. Roumanian peasants at the time had their own holdings (in old-school open fields), but also had contractual obligations to provide labor on domenical holdings to which the boyars had the allodial rights and the 'tenant's actually operated. There was considerable antagonism incorporated into these relationships. Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn't specifically recruit peasants.

    OTOH, in Bulgaria, less than 2% of the population was Jewish and Jews were generally artisans.

    Replies: @Jack D

  123. @J.Ross
    It sounds like a non-sequitur until you remember the people who dictate and limit culture in the US historically overseeing, enslaving, and genociding Eastern Europeans. Jennifer Senior: Ted Talks and New Yorker/New York Times twaddle, in other words, a person whose employment depends on her race.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    It sounds like a non-sequitur until you remember the people who dictate and limit culture in the US historically overseeing, enslaving, and genociding Eastern Europeans.

    Thanks for the malicious fantasy. Always an education.

  124. @Jake
    @Chris Mallory

    Really?

    So let's actually think about that rather than simply regurgitating the utter stupidities of VDARE.

    Quakers, Unitarians, and Universalists were all planted here from dear old England by 1790. I assert that per capita they did as much for nascent Leftism in the US as did the Jews later. In fact, without the WASP born and bred heretical groups, Jews never could have hoped to hit the ground running when they began to arrive in large numbers.

    And then there is the sordid history of Leftism produced by the church that is the direct descendants of New England Anglo-Saxon Puritans: Congregational. Have you any idea of how much ultra liberalism Congregationalists produced just in the 18th and 19th centuries?

    The vast majority of Congregationalist churches formed the United Church of Christ in the 1950s. It has been the most overall Liberal church in the country since then.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    This is insanity squared. The number of people even nominally associated with some body of Congregationalists, Unitarians, or Quakers in this country sums to fewer than two million and none of these bodies have ever been consequential outside of New England and Pennsylvania.

    • Replies: @Jake
    @Art Deco

    That you are ignorant of what these groups have done means only that you are ignorant. I suggest you start your education by learning the roles of these groups in Abolitionism, in founding and administering the NEA (which began as purely anti-Catholic- that was the reason for it), in devising and administering Reconstruction, in founding and administering social welfare groups and agencies that were necessary for the spreading of every manner of Big Government Liberalism.

    As for your small numbers notion -- have Jews ever amounted to more than 2.5% of the US population? Have Jews done damage from the Left to the US that makes it seem as if the nation is maybe 40, even 50, % Jewish?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    They don't have many present adherents, but historically they were influential in shaping WASP culture. Four US presidents, both Presidents Adams, Fillmore and Taft, were Unitarians (some had traditional Christian tendencies while Jefferson and some other congregants in traditional churches had deist tendencies similar to the Unitarians.) Hoover and Nixon were Quakers.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    Art, your big blind spot is culture and those groups have been (and still are) at the forefront of American culture from the very beginning.

  125. @william munny
    @JimDandy

    I just read that for the first time last week and it felt very timely for a book written by a dead guy in a Slavic country.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    I just finished it (for the first time) last week. I had been hearing people saying exactly what you say about it for the past few years–from Jordan Peterson to the late Justin Raimondo over at AntiWar.com. Y’all are right.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @JimDandy

    Demons is doubtlessly one of 3-5 greatest novels ever written. John Updike compiled the list of 10 greatest works of Western literature in the past millennium. Demons was his Dostoevsky choice.

    If I recall correctly, his 10 authors from 1000 to 2000 were: Thomas Aquinas, Dante, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Voltaire, Gibbon, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Proust and Joyce.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @JimDandy

    I read Demons earlier this year, also for the first time.

    2020 is an excellent time to be paying attention to this book.

  126. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @anonymous


    She’d be getting glowing press treatment were she the spouse of any other president.
     
    I don't know. The accent kinda killed it. She also comes across a little cold. First Ladies have to be all American, warm and bubbly to be popular.

    Replies: @AnotherGuessModel, @anonymous

    First Ladies have to be all American, warm and bubbly to be popular.

    Yeah, like big-shouldered, scowling bug-eyed Michelle Obama.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  127. @Jack D
    @Rob

    The question is why to Slavs have such negative views of Jews?

    The reality is that it wasn't all negative, in either direction. What you had going on was a love/hate thing, not unlike the relationship between blacks and whites in America. My parents had Polish friends their entire lives. In the war, there were Polish people who hid Jews at great risk to their lives and others who would rat them out to the Germans for a sack of sugar.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Jews were populous enough to be obtrusive in Eastern Europe and there was a considerable period of time when you had a great deal of occupational segmentation on ethnic and confessional lines. The extreme case was in interwar Poland, wherein 10% of the population was Jewish and most merchants, artisans, and professionals were Jewish or German. In Hungary a century ago, north of 40% of those who passed state baccalaureate examinations were Jews. In Roumania, Jews were about 5% of the population. What was salient there was that Roumanian boyars by the early 20th century had commonly given up active management of their holdings and subcontracted that to a class of entrepreneurs that you see confusingly referred to as ‘tenant farmers’. The people who operated these agricultural trusts were commonly Jews and the most common Jewish-gentile relation was between the Roumanian peasant and the Jewish tenant. Roumanian peasants at the time had their own holdings (in old-school open fields), but also had contractual obligations to provide labor on domenical holdings to which the boyars had the allodial rights and the ‘tenant’s actually operated. There was considerable antagonism incorporated into these relationships. Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn’t specifically recruit peasants.

    OTOH, in Bulgaria, less than 2% of the population was Jewish and Jews were generally artisans.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn’t specifically recruit peasants.
     
    The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can't successfully compete with them in the open market. The folks at the bottom of the heap are generally happy with their Jewish intermediaries or at least realize that whoever replaces them, even if they are of the same ethnicity as they are, is not going to treat them any better.

    You saw this in the US with, for example, the Ocean Hill–Brownsville school brouhaha where the black school board wanted to get rid of the Jewish teachers so that they could replace them with their buddies. I doubt that the black school kids would really have been well served by having their Jewish teachers replaced by less competent blacks, but the black teachers given sinecures would surely have enjoyed it.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Anon

  128. @Mr. Anon
    I guess New York Times columnists can't be bothered to know that Nosferatu was supposed to be Romanian, and that Romanians aren't entirely slavic.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Their language isn’t at all Slavic, it’s Latin based, and they have the only historical, traditional, Orthodox liturgy in a Latin based language.

  129. When she said “Partial to Slavs” she meant that President Trump admires beautiful women. And Slavic women are beautiful. Many of them are blond, and have a great figure. Bear in mind that according to the tenets of feminism, there is no such thing as female beauty. Stamping out beauty is necessary to create perfect equality. After all, we can’t have a bunch of beautiful women running around; what would the mousy Jewish girls, and the the Hippopotamus black girls do? They would be oppressed by unfair male standards of beauty! If you look at the statue of the deformed woman in London, you will understand that beauty is just an artificial social construct. It doesn’t exist.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/559924166150912563/

  130. @SFG
    @Desiderius

    You have the history and tradition of the Catholic Church without the truly horrifying pedophilia scandal.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dissident

    How much of this “truly horrifying pedophilia scandal” is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @YetAnotherAnon


    and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion
     
    Happen to agree.
    , @Hibernian
    @YetAnotherAnon

    It's very real.

    , @Desiderius
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Both. Vicious cycle. Anti-Papist allergic reaction to Catholic communities being more anti-fragile than Cool Mom Protestants. Protestants infected Catholics like HIV-Poz infect other gays, then things took their course.

  131. Jake says:
    @Mr McKenna
    @Jake

    The NYT has realized that we've caught on to their "Dear Fellow White People" routine.

    So they're ramping up the game a bit today:


    An Open Letter to My Fellow White Christians

    Our sins are grievous, but we are not yet beyond redemption.

    By Margaret Renkl
    Contributing Opinion Writer
    June 8, 2020

    NASHVILLE — Since long before it was a country, our country has been in flames. When we arrived on our big ships and decimated this land’s original peoples with our viruses and our guns, when we used our Christian faith as a justification for killing both “heretic” and “heathen,” we founded this country in flames. And every month, every week, every day, for the last 400 years, we have been setting new fires.

    White Christians who came before us captured human beings and beat them and raped them and stole their babies from them and stole their parents from them and stole their husbands and their wives from them and locked them in chains and made them work in inhuman conditions. Our spiritual ancestors went to church and listened to their pastors argue that these human beings weren’t human at all.

    Our pastors don’t tell us that anymore, but we are still setting fires.

    Christians set a fire every time we allow our leaders to weaponize our fears against us. We set a fire every time our faith in good police officers prevents us from seeing the bad ones. Christian voters preserve a system that permits police violence, unjust prosecutions and hellhole prisons filled with people who should have received the same addiction treatment we give our own troubled kids.

    We set a fire every time we fail to scrutinize a police culture that allows an officer’s own fear and hatred to justify the most casual brutality against another human being.

    Make yourself look. Study the air of perfect nonchalance on Derek Chauvin’s face as he kneels on the neck of George Floyd. Register the blithe indifference in his posture, the way he puts his hand in his pocket as though he were just walking along the street on a sunny summer day. Nothing in his whole body suggests concern. He is not the least bit troubled by taking another human life.

    We created Derek Chauvin.
     

    See how bad you are, My Fellow White Christians? You created all the Evil in the world--TD is so right about you all--and collective guilt applies to White Christians, oh you'd better believe it does. Remember, White Speech is Violence, White Silence is Violence. White Action is Violence, White inaction is violence.

    If you're beginning to get the idea, my FWC people, that "we" believe violence against you is justified, always and everywhere, you're beginning to catch on. Have a nice day!

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Jake

    The movement to have all whites all agree to drop all their different ethnic cultures for some non-Elite form of WASP – you have no choice but to be white people as understood by WASPs – is exactly what the Elites of the Anglo-Zionist Empire desire. And they are not ignorant, nor are they stupid. When it comes to their insatiable desires to amass more power, they are as cunning as Satan’s best student.

    Paul Gottfried is as good as its gets for Jews in recent academia. Even he is eaten up with anti-Slavic and pro-Germanic biases and bigotries (remember, Angles and Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Dutch, and Danes are linguistically and culturally Germanic: WASP is a Germanic culture). Gottfried asserts that the reason – perhaps almost the only reason – that so many Jews coming to the US starting in the 1870s were radical and criminal is that they came from the Russian Empire, or parts of Poland ruled by Austrians or Berliners. His idea is that those bad Jews were bad because of Slavic culture. Yet, the ‘literary’ language of 100% of them would have been Germanic (either Yiddish or standard German), and the primary daily language of nearly 100% of them would have Germanic (Yiddish).

    The Polish and Russian Jews were culturally and linguistically Germanic by choice. Did those Jews have low IQs? Did they get tricked into choosing Germanic?

    And how and why dd Jews switch from Continental Germanic to WASP Germanic?

    Are Jews both high IQ and very cunning and focused on advancing themselves at the expense of all others? If so, then Jewish choice of Germanic languages and cultures, as well as Jewish hatred of things Slavic, should tell you almost all you need to know about which European cultures are a way out of this horror story that is the Anglo-Zionist Empire.

  132. @Anon5
    @Chris Mallory

    I'll take the bait:

    Pulaski, Kosciuszko, etc.

    Replies: @Mike Zwick

    And Mike Ditka, Mike Krzyzewski, Carl Yastrzemski etc..

  133. Jake says:
    @Art Deco
    @Jake

    This is insanity squared. The number of people even nominally associated with some body of Congregationalists, Unitarians, or Quakers in this country sums to fewer than two million and none of these bodies have ever been consequential outside of New England and Pennsylvania.

    Replies: @Jake, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

    That you are ignorant of what these groups have done means only that you are ignorant. I suggest you start your education by learning the roles of these groups in Abolitionism, in founding and administering the NEA (which began as purely anti-Catholic- that was the reason for it), in devising and administering Reconstruction, in founding and administering social welfare groups and agencies that were necessary for the spreading of every manner of Big Government Liberalism.

    As for your small numbers notion — have Jews ever amounted to more than 2.5% of the US population? Have Jews done damage from the Left to the US that makes it seem as if the nation is maybe 40, even 50, % Jewish?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jake

    That you are ignorant of what these groups have done means only that you are ignorant.

    You mean I haven't imbibed your fantasies.

  134. @RichardTaylor
    @Desiderius

    That video shows the cuckish nature of Nixon. The biggest thing in the heart of a soft White fella is to connect emotionally with a Leftist.


    Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted
     
    God, let's hope so!

    Replies: @Hibernian

    In The Crown Churchill has the most stereotypically upper class British manner, although he has some close competition form Tommy Lascelles and Lord Mountbatten, not from any of the Royals other than Mountbatten, IMHO. Others, including at least one peer, Lord Altringham, are like Ducky Mallard’s British buddies (in London, he’s the only Scot) in an episode of NCIS where he goes back home to meet a frenemy who stole (and married) his girl, back in the day. They have very mild accents, they could almost be Americans, Northeasterners, of course. Ducky’s frenemy is the only one I remember who has a mildly posh manner.

    Also in the Crown, McMillan seems to me to be almost like a certain type of New Englander, maybe exemplified by Silent Cal Coolidge (who was one of the characters in For Greater Glory.)

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Hibernian

    Churchill?

    Hmmmm....

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-johnson-slams-protest-thuggery-after-cops-hurt-churchill-statue-defaced/

    UK’s Johnson slams protest ‘thuggery’ after cops hurt, Churchill statue defaced

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2020/06/000_1T13AV-e1591612936701-640x400.jpg

  135. @anon215
    Wow just wow I can't even. Imagine making that very same statement with just one minor word substitution!

    Replies: @bigdicknick

    Will they publish my new Op Ed?

    The fake news new york times is partial to jews. Here’s why that’s a problem:

  136. @YetAnotherAnon
    @SFG

    How much of this "truly horrifying pedophilia scandal" is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

    and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion

    Happen to agree.

  137. @Art Deco
    @Jake

    This is insanity squared. The number of people even nominally associated with some body of Congregationalists, Unitarians, or Quakers in this country sums to fewer than two million and none of these bodies have ever been consequential outside of New England and Pennsylvania.

    Replies: @Jake, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

    They don’t have many present adherents, but historically they were influential in shaping WASP culture. Four US presidents, both Presidents Adams, Fillmore and Taft, were Unitarians (some had traditional Christian tendencies while Jefferson and some other congregants in traditional churches had deist tendencies similar to the Unitarians.) Hoover and Nixon were Quakers.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Hibernian

    Eisehower's mother started out as an anabaptist and ended up in the Jehovah's Witnesses. He, on the other hand, spent 40 years in the military. There's some influence.

    Hoover and Nixon grew up in a Friends congregation. Nixon's private writings suggest his actual religious views were the sparest sort of liberal protestantism tending to deism, and, of course, he enlisted in the Navy in 1942. Now look at the revealed preferences of these two men. Hoover's private home was this 5,000 sq foot International Style mess:

    https://www.nps.gov/places/lou-henry-and-herbert-hoover-house.htm

    The Nixons owned two homes which had 17,000 sq feet between them. There's plain living for you.


    I have no clue what you mean by 'WASP culture'. The denominations in question were important in New England and Pennsylvania, not anywhere else. And no, I don't think our interlocutor is going to show his work in substantiating the claim that our contemporary disorders are attributable to the culture of early 19th century protestant confessions.

  138. @Hibernian
    @RichardTaylor

    In The Crown Churchill has the most stereotypically upper class British manner, although he has some close competition form Tommy Lascelles and Lord Mountbatten, not from any of the Royals other than Mountbatten, IMHO. Others, including at least one peer, Lord Altringham, are like Ducky Mallard's British buddies (in London, he's the only Scot) in an episode of NCIS where he goes back home to meet a frenemy who stole (and married) his girl, back in the day. They have very mild accents, they could almost be Americans, Northeasterners, of course. Ducky's frenemy is the only one I remember who has a mildly posh manner.

    Also in the Crown, McMillan seems to me to be almost like a certain type of New Englander, maybe exemplified by Silent Cal Coolidge (who was one of the characters in For Greater Glory.)

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Churchill?

    Hmmmm….

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-johnson-slams-protest-thuggery-after-cops-hurt-churchill-statue-defaced/

    UK’s Johnson slams protest ‘thuggery’ after cops hurt, Churchill statue defaced

  139. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    In his book The Old World in the New written in 1920, E.A. Ross didn’t have too many good things to say about the Slavs. They were generally characterized as poverty stricken stupid sloppy drunken brutes and wife beaters. Many went to the South to become farmers, others worked in the mines. Ross also said they were ugly with sloping short foreheads as opposed to the tall forehead good looking Anglos, Nordics and Germans(which he called “Alpines”).

    Gotta love the good old days when you could publish a tell-it-like-it-is book like that and still be a professor of political science at Stanford. It was what kept America sane, when we were all allowed to tell the truth. But Ross forewarned us in the same book that everyone was already afraid to offend the Jews even then as they were well organized and controlled the media. He also said the Jews were over sensitive, unscrupulous, pleasure seeking, and ugly.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon

    Was there EVER an immigrant group that met Ross's (and your) beauty standards as compared to Anglos? You can say a lot about the Slavs and their relationship with alcohol but as far as beauty goes, they are not a bad looking group (at least the young females). Immigrants tend to be working class and I think the average working class Slav is a more handsome specimen than the average working class Brit and tends to have more teeth. In 1900 this would have been even more true - working class Brits were stunted by poor diet.

    And beauty isn't everything. The "beautiful" Germans certainly did not act beautifully in the 20th century.

    Replies: @RSDB

    , @MarkinLA
    @Anon

    Well it is true that I saw a far higher percentage of young Russian women that you would call hot compared to the percentage of Russian men you would call handsome. In one Russian bar the hostess (who spoke English) even admitted that the women are stunning the men not so much.

  140. @Jake
    @Art Deco

    That you are ignorant of what these groups have done means only that you are ignorant. I suggest you start your education by learning the roles of these groups in Abolitionism, in founding and administering the NEA (which began as purely anti-Catholic- that was the reason for it), in devising and administering Reconstruction, in founding and administering social welfare groups and agencies that were necessary for the spreading of every manner of Big Government Liberalism.

    As for your small numbers notion -- have Jews ever amounted to more than 2.5% of the US population? Have Jews done damage from the Left to the US that makes it seem as if the nation is maybe 40, even 50, % Jewish?

    Replies: @Art Deco

    That you are ignorant of what these groups have done means only that you are ignorant.

    You mean I haven’t imbibed your fantasies.

  141. @YetAnotherAnon
    @SFG

    How much of this "truly horrifying pedophilia scandal" is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

    It’s very real.

  142. @JimDandy
    @william munny

    I just finished it (for the first time) last week. I had been hearing people saying exactly what you say about it for the past few years--from Jordan Peterson to the late Justin Raimondo over at AntiWar.com. Y'all are right.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Demons is doubtlessly one of 3-5 greatest novels ever written. John Updike compiled the list of 10 greatest works of Western literature in the past millennium. Demons was his Dostoevsky choice.

    If I recall correctly, his 10 authors from 1000 to 2000 were: Thomas Aquinas, Dante, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Voltaire, Gibbon, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Proust and Joyce.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Bardon Kaldian

    ALT-RIGHT CHAMPIONING POORLY-WRITTEN RUSSIAN NOVEL

    By Paul Blumenthal
    @Huffpo


    You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.

    ***

    Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox

  143. @trelane
    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.

    Why wouldn't a normal man be partial to one? Listen to her speak.

    https://youtu.be/Gdb_gjyyvpo?t=57

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Russ, @J1234

    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.

    To wit, the president of Croatia.

    Trump’s sharp eye for female beauty is yet another factor driving the NYT ilk crazy.

  144. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Jews were populous enough to be obtrusive in Eastern Europe and there was a considerable period of time when you had a great deal of occupational segmentation on ethnic and confessional lines. The extreme case was in interwar Poland, wherein 10% of the population was Jewish and most merchants, artisans, and professionals were Jewish or German. In Hungary a century ago, north of 40% of those who passed state baccalaureate examinations were Jews. In Roumania, Jews were about 5% of the population. What was salient there was that Roumanian boyars by the early 20th century had commonly given up active management of their holdings and subcontracted that to a class of entrepreneurs that you see confusingly referred to as 'tenant farmers'. The people who operated these agricultural trusts were commonly Jews and the most common Jewish-gentile relation was between the Roumanian peasant and the Jewish tenant. Roumanian peasants at the time had their own holdings (in old-school open fields), but also had contractual obligations to provide labor on domenical holdings to which the boyars had the allodial rights and the 'tenant's actually operated. There was considerable antagonism incorporated into these relationships. Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn't specifically recruit peasants.

    OTOH, in Bulgaria, less than 2% of the population was Jewish and Jews were generally artisans.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn’t specifically recruit peasants.

    The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can’t successfully compete with them in the open market. The folks at the bottom of the heap are generally happy with their Jewish intermediaries or at least realize that whoever replaces them, even if they are of the same ethnicity as they are, is not going to treat them any better.

    You saw this in the US with, for example, the Ocean Hill–Brownsville school brouhaha where the black school board wanted to get rid of the Jewish teachers so that they could replace them with their buddies. I doubt that the black school kids would really have been well served by having their Jewish teachers replaced by less competent blacks, but the black teachers given sinecures would surely have enjoyed it.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D

    Corrected for usage, with imprecise language crossed out, and additions in bold:


    I doubt that the black school kids would really have been well served by having their Jewish teachers replaced by less incompetent blacks, but the black teachers given sinecures would surely have enjoyed it.
     
    Unfortunately, the one area in which we would be well-served by no racial quotas, given that the consequences are literally life-long, for both the recipients of the service, as well as for future potential crime victims, is one where racial quotas are enforced with the greatest zeal.
    , @Anon
    @Jack D


    The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can’t successfully compete with them in the open market.
     
    "Can't successfully compete" with Jews is a notion that is entirely dependent on a relative comparison between the protections and hostilities allowed for each competing group.

    Jews tend to afforded the most protections and available hostile measures, and so they do not very often compete on a playing field that is anything but vertical in their favor.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  145. @415 reasons
    @inertial

    As a Slavic American I have to say I’m not actually offended in the slightest that the NYT is deploying this as an insult. I just wish others wouldn’t be so thin skinned. I know the world has gone crazy but I don’t actually get offended by Polish jokes. I’m sure a critical race theorist could swing in on a chandelier and explain how that shows just how entrenched my white privilege and unconscious bias are.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @stillCARealist

    I know lots of Slavs here around Sacramento, and I must say they conform to every conceivable stereotype, both good and bad. Much of Ukraine and Belarus seem to live in the burbs here. They are all Trump voters (if they’re citizens).

  146. @AnotherGuessModel
    @Anon

    One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and "foreign", but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her. I see her as the opposite to a lot of popular female celebrities - say an actress like Reese Witherspoon, for example - who come across as warm and bubbly on the surface, but are unmistakably brittle underneath.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and “foreign”, but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her.

    Perhaps it endears her to you, but I doubt it endears you to her. In all likelihood she doesn’t know anything about you. (How did I Do, Reg?)

    • Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
    @kaganovitch

    But Melania and I are besties!

  147. @kaganovitch
    @AnotherGuessModel

    One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and “foreign”, but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her.


    Perhaps it endears her to you, but I doubt it endears you to her. In all likelihood she doesn't know anything about you. (How did I Do, Reg?)

    Replies: @AnotherGuessModel

    But Melania and I are besties!

  148. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    A couple of Slavs just got in trouble. Serbian soccer player Aleksandar Katai was released from the Los Angeles Galaxy last Friday following a day of indignant protests by fans outside Dignity Health Sports Park. His wife Tea Katai made Instagram posts comparing police-brutality protestors to cattle, called for violent action against them (“shoot the s***s”), and captioned an image of a supposed looter carrying off a pair of sneakers with “Black Nikes Matter.” Here’s a picture of them:

    Recent Slavic immigrants from Eastern Europe are the most anti-left. They escaped communism, don’t need to go right back into it.

    • Replies: @Denis
    @Anon

    They didn't "escape from communism", the guy started playing in American teams a few years ago, and they are not particularly "anti-left". The woman just made some statements on the internet that, to her, seemed like innocuous commentary. This is what people do in most of the world, they speak freely, without policing themselves. She was under the mistaken impression that that was permissible in the west; it is not.

  149. @SFG
    @inertial

    They do delete sufficiently critical comments.

    I'm guessing the Polish/Czech/Hungarian jetsetter with Ivy degrees who reads the NYT thinks she's either (a) referring to Putin and Russia, in which case no problem, because a lot of these other countries resent Russia for pretty sound historical reasons or (b) one of those nasty provincial people back home who voted for Kaczynski, Orban, etc., not her, a nice person who reads the NYT and thinks Soros is a good guy. (If she is Russian, file under (b).)

    Slavic-Americans of other persuasions would be less likely to read the NYT.

    Or she's got parentheses, in which case she chuckles at the dig at those Cossacks she remembers from a story handed down by great-Grandma or Fiddler on the Roof.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire

    Hungarians are not Slavs.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    @John Derbyshire

    Genetically, Hungarians are heavily slavicized Magyars.
    That’s one reason why the Polish and the Hungarians have been
    so close. Their common destiny is to closely guard the territory
    called Central Europe.

  150. @Harold
    Back when it used disqus I was banned from commenting at National Review for calling them Slavophobes. I was just being proportionate to the baseless accusations in the article too.


    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/podhoretz-no-jewish-russophile.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D

    Apparently when Bernie Sanders went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, being a Jewish Russophile was NOT noxious. I guess it really depends on which Russians you love. Since the downfall of Communism, the Left and the Right have completely swapped their positions on love of Russia. But everyone in America today seems to have the attention span of a flea and no sense of irony.

    Truthfully the honeymoon between Jews and Russians (even Russian Communists) was relatively brief, starting with the Revolution and ending with the birth of Israel. Communism was supposed to be internationalist but in truth Soviet Communism was jealously nationalist (a circle that they never really squared) so there was no room for divided loyalty. But it took a while for the Jewish Fellow Travelers in the West to get the message that the love affair back home was over and they continued to love Russia even after Russia no longer loved them back.

  151. @JimB
    Russians and American blacks were freed from slavery at about the same time (1861-2). Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik. What did American blacks accomplished?

    Replies: @JohnnyD, @snorlax, @Jack D, @JohnnyWalker123, @Forbes

    Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik.

    Has anyone ever done a study of the class roots of Russian intellectuals, generals, etc. based on common Serf surnames and the like? I know that in the UK, people with Norman surnames are still socially prominent almost 1,000 years after the Norman Conquest. The Revolution was highly disruptive but I would bet that did not fully erase social differences.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jack D

    Anatoly Karlin did an analysis of Soviet scientist surnames by ethnicity, but I don't think he did one by class. You could ask him.

  152. @Jack D
    @JimB


    Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik.
     
    Has anyone ever done a study of the class roots of Russian intellectuals, generals, etc. based on common Serf surnames and the like? I know that in the UK, people with Norman surnames are still socially prominent almost 1,000 years after the Norman Conquest. The Revolution was highly disruptive but I would bet that did not fully erase social differences.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Anatoly Karlin did an analysis of Soviet scientist surnames by ethnicity, but I don’t think he did one by class. You could ask him.

  153. @JohnnyWalker123
    @trelane

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women.

    But it was not always so. In my youth during the ’50s & ’60s, most American women were slender and well-groomed, and virtually none of them engaged in any organized sports.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    That, and high-fructose corn syrup, introduced in the 1970s, and especially non-caloric artificial sweeteners like Aspartame, approved in 1974, which reduce the satiety signal, among other bad effects on the body’s microbiome leading to inflammation, and weight gain, along with even more serious health outcomes like cancer, brain tumors, cardiovascular disease, seizures, strokes, dementia, Alzheimer’s disease, mood disorders, and kidney function decline.

    With all that, weight gain, increased appetite, and obesity might seem like relatively minor problems, if you can stand fat chicks.

    Aspartame: Decades of Science Point to Serious Health Risks

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Sparkon


    virtually none of them engaged in any organized sports
     
    That's another interesting difference. American women are way more likely to play sports or do activities like cross fit, strength training, or pilates. So even think American girls have a different type of body shape.

    A thin American girl will be more voluptuous/curvy than a thin Euro girl.
  154. @Anonymous
    In another context the remark could potentially be funny -- not hilarious, but passable. However, she overestimated her own wit, as putting in time at the shrillest, most bonkers, most superstitious op-ed page of the major dailies can do to you. Prestigious Racism forms the vanguard against Supremacist Mind Waves

    Replies: @Known Fact

    When husband and wife are both New York writers, there’s probably subtle but intense in-house pressure to out-woke each other

  155. @Art Deco
    @Jake

    This is insanity squared. The number of people even nominally associated with some body of Congregationalists, Unitarians, or Quakers in this country sums to fewer than two million and none of these bodies have ever been consequential outside of New England and Pennsylvania.

    Replies: @Jake, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

    Art, your big blind spot is culture and those groups have been (and still are) at the forefront of American culture from the very beginning.

  156. @YetAnotherAnon
    @SFG

    How much of this "truly horrifying pedophilia scandal" is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Hibernian, @Desiderius

    Both. Vicious cycle. Anti-Papist allergic reaction to Catholic communities being more anti-fragile than Cool Mom Protestants. Protestants infected Catholics like HIV-Poz infect other gays, then things took their course.

  157. @Lot
    @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t think most Polish Americans in the Midwest and PA are aware Poles are part of a larger Slavic group.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t think most Polish Americans in the Midwest and PA are aware Poles are part of a larger Slavic group.

    Clearly it’s time they learned!

  158. @anon
    @newrouter

    over the past week I have become conscious of anything "ghetto" in my life or appearing on TV - now I take steps to banish such things instead of allowing it to pollute me.
    No more football, etc.
    I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Reg Cæsar

    I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.

    They were seen as a joke at the time, as was Sammy Kaye. The Osmonds of the ’40s.

  159. @Prester John
    Deep...deep. I mean...like, you know, heavy. "Nosferatu"; "Partial to Slavs."

    The Gray Hag has been featuring some profound thinkers lately .

    Replies: @Buck Ransom, @Forbes

    “Partial to Slavs.”

    Slavs with names like Kushner, Mnuchin and Netanyahu.

  160. @Bardon Kaldian
    @JimDandy

    Demons is doubtlessly one of 3-5 greatest novels ever written. John Updike compiled the list of 10 greatest works of Western literature in the past millennium. Demons was his Dostoevsky choice.

    If I recall correctly, his 10 authors from 1000 to 2000 were: Thomas Aquinas, Dante, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Voltaire, Gibbon, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Proust and Joyce.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    ALT-RIGHT CHAMPIONING POORLY-WRITTEN RUSSIAN NOVEL

    By Paul Blumenthal
    @Huffpo

    You’ve probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don’t feel too bad, there’s a reason the book is so obscure–it’s a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky’s petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800’s. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar’s standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as “an embarrassing mess” that “to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky’s legacy” it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.

    ***

    Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    Updike is practically a neo-Nazi these days, right?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @JimDandy

    Jokes aside, this is what Joyce Carol Oates wrote about this novel:
    https://celestialtimepiece.com/2015/01/28/tragic-rites-in-dostoyevskys-the-possessed/

    , @nebulafox
    @JimDandy

    Demons is a seriously underrated book, and a depressingly relevant one.

    I think part of the reason for its lack of popularity in the West is because its the most political of Dostoevsky's works, and his ideology is hard to adopt yourself if you aren't Russian. Doesn't mean it isn't worth reading at all, but it does require a bit of background knowledge about what Dostoevsky and men like him actually believed to get the most out of it. C&P and the Brothers are easier to just dive into without any.

    Replies: @JimDandy

  161. @trelane
    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.

    Why wouldn't a normal man be partial to one? Listen to her speak.

    https://youtu.be/Gdb_gjyyvpo?t=57

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Russ, @J1234

    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.

    I agree with that, generally speaking. I can remember a time, however, when – right here in the US – a Slavic surname implied a lack of sophistication or even a lack of beauty for a woman. I never thought that perception was even remotely accurate, but some folks believed that back when I was a kid.

    BTW, on the subject of Melania’s speaking voice, she’s apparently fluent in five languages – I believe the same five languages that Slavoj Zizek can speak. It isn’t just the women of Slovenia who are beautiful. The country itself is quite spectacular, based on the pictures I’ve seen.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @J1234

    Somebody, maybe the late Charles Portis of True Grit fame, wrote a semi-comic semi-fictionalized essay in Harper's in the 1980s about the stereotypical European city that I think was based on Ljubljana, Slovenia that was both satirical and made me want to move there. Whenever I see a feature during the Winter Olympics on a Slovenian lady skier, Slovenia looks wonderful.

    , @Thea
    @J1234

    Why leave to move to this crap hole country?

  162. @Sparkon
    @JohnnyWalker123


    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women.
     
    But it was not always so. In my youth during the '50s & '60s, most American women were slender and well-groomed, and virtually none of them engaged in any organized sports.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?
     
    That, and high-fructose corn syrup, introduced in the 1970s, and especially non-caloric artificial sweeteners like Aspartame, approved in 1974, which reduce the satiety signal, among other bad effects on the body's microbiome leading to inflammation, and weight gain, along with even more serious health outcomes like cancer, brain tumors, cardiovascular disease, seizures, strokes, dementia, Alzheimer's disease, mood disorders, and kidney function decline.

    With all that, weight gain, increased appetite, and obesity might seem like relatively minor problems, if you can stand fat chicks.

    Aspartame: Decades of Science Point to Serious Health Risks

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    virtually none of them engaged in any organized sports

    That’s another interesting difference. American women are way more likely to play sports or do activities like cross fit, strength training, or pilates. So even think American girls have a different type of body shape.

    A thin American girl will be more voluptuous/curvy than a thin Euro girl.

  163. @Anon
    In his book The Old World in the New written in 1920, E.A. Ross didn't have too many good things to say about the Slavs. They were generally characterized as poverty stricken stupid sloppy drunken brutes and wife beaters. Many went to the South to become farmers, others worked in the mines. Ross also said they were ugly with sloping short foreheads as opposed to the tall forehead good looking Anglos, Nordics and Germans(which he called "Alpines").

    Gotta love the good old days when you could publish a tell-it-like-it-is book like that and still be a professor of political science at Stanford. It was what kept America sane, when we were all allowed to tell the truth. But Ross forewarned us in the same book that everyone was already afraid to offend the Jews even then as they were well organized and controlled the media. He also said the Jews were over sensitive, unscrupulous, pleasure seeking, and ugly.

    Replies: @Jack D, @MarkinLA

    Was there EVER an immigrant group that met Ross’s (and your) beauty standards as compared to Anglos? You can say a lot about the Slavs and their relationship with alcohol but as far as beauty goes, they are not a bad looking group (at least the young females). Immigrants tend to be working class and I think the average working class Slav is a more handsome specimen than the average working class Brit and tends to have more teeth. In 1900 this would have been even more true – working class Brits were stunted by poor diet.

    And beauty isn’t everything. The “beautiful” Germans certainly did not act beautifully in the 20th century.

    • Replies: @RSDB
    @Jack D

    I'm not sure "Anon" necessarily agrees with Ross's assessments so much as with the values of a society that allowed him to publish them and still be seriously regarded.

    But anyway I want to thank you for standing up for poor Slavs (probably mostly Poles and Ukrainians) from a century ago; your comment is correct.

  164. @JimB
    Russians and American blacks were freed from slavery at about the same time (1861-2). Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik. What did American blacks accomplished?

    Replies: @JohnnyD, @snorlax, @Jack D, @JohnnyWalker123, @Forbes

    They became pop stars.

    It’s their prerogative.

  165. @J1234
    @trelane


    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.
     
    I agree with that, generally speaking. I can remember a time, however, when - right here in the US - a Slavic surname implied a lack of sophistication or even a lack of beauty for a woman. I never thought that perception was even remotely accurate, but some folks believed that back when I was a kid.

    BTW, on the subject of Melania's speaking voice, she's apparently fluent in five languages - I believe the same five languages that Slavoj Zizek can speak. It isn't just the women of Slovenia who are beautiful. The country itself is quite spectacular, based on the pictures I've seen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Thea

    Somebody, maybe the late Charles Portis of True Grit fame, wrote a semi-comic semi-fictionalized essay in Harper’s in the 1980s about the stereotypical European city that I think was based on Ljubljana, Slovenia that was both satirical and made me want to move there. Whenever I see a feature during the Winter Olympics on a Slovenian lady skier, Slovenia looks wonderful.

  166. @JimDandy
    @Bardon Kaldian

    ALT-RIGHT CHAMPIONING POORLY-WRITTEN RUSSIAN NOVEL

    By Paul Blumenthal
    @Huffpo


    You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.

    ***

    Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox

    Updike is practically a neo-Nazi these days, right?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    “just a penis with a thesaurus” and one of the “Great Male Narcissists”

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/feb/17/pushing-back-why-its-time-for-women-to-rewrite-the-story

  167. Imagine if a Slavic writer had accused the President of being “partial to Jews.” They would be fired and then vilified by the entire Jewish controlled media.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @ATBOTL

    A Slav in the media got forced out this week, that editor in Philadelphia. Clearly, Slavic Privilege in the media is keeping the People of Color down.

  168. @ATBOTL
    Imagine if a Slavic writer had accused the President of being "partial to Jews." They would be fired and then vilified by the entire Jewish controlled media.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A Slav in the media got forced out this week, that editor in Philadelphia. Clearly, Slavic Privilege in the media is keeping the People of Color down.

  169. @Prester John
    Deep...deep. I mean...like, you know, heavy. "Nosferatu"; "Partial to Slavs."

    The Gray Hag has been featuring some profound thinkers lately .

    Replies: @Buck Ransom, @Forbes

    I’m still stuck at “Nosferatu.”

    Here’s 1979 film version writer/director Werner Herzog, from wiki…

    Herzog saw his film as a parable about the fragility of order in a staid, bourgeois town. “It is more than a horror film”, he says. “Nosferatu is not a monster, but an ambivalent, masterful force of change.

    I’m not certain the effect Jennifer Senior was going for, but I doubt her obscure reference does it.

  170. @JimB
    Russians and American blacks were freed from slavery at about the same time (1861-2). Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik. What did American blacks accomplished?

    Replies: @JohnnyD, @snorlax, @Jack D, @JohnnyWalker123, @Forbes

    USA blacks, with occasional lapses, keep beating the Russians/Soviets in basketball at the Olympics.

  171. @JimB
    @DextersLabRat

    It must be nice having orthodontists and plastic surgeons in the family.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Jane Plain

    Rather than a cosmetic surgeon, more likely the photographer knew to pose her straight on the nose, with the head tilting down in order to diminish her proboscis.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Forbes

    There is an obvious cosmetic surgery scar on the right side of her nose. And her teeth have been capped.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  172. @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    Updike is practically a neo-Nazi these days, right?

    Replies: @JimDandy

    “just a penis with a thesaurus” and one of the “Great Male Narcissists”

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/feb/17/pushing-back-why-its-time-for-women-to-rewrite-the-story

  173. Slavs Rule! Partly because I am part Slavic myself. But ask yourself this: will we have to change the word because it’s based on “slave”?

  174. @JimDandy
    @Bardon Kaldian

    ALT-RIGHT CHAMPIONING POORLY-WRITTEN RUSSIAN NOVEL

    By Paul Blumenthal
    @Huffpo


    You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.

    ***

    Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox

    Jokes aside, this is what Joyce Carol Oates wrote about this novel:
    https://celestialtimepiece.com/2015/01/28/tragic-rites-in-dostoyevskys-the-possessed/

  175. @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn’t specifically recruit peasants.
     
    The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can't successfully compete with them in the open market. The folks at the bottom of the heap are generally happy with their Jewish intermediaries or at least realize that whoever replaces them, even if they are of the same ethnicity as they are, is not going to treat them any better.

    You saw this in the US with, for example, the Ocean Hill–Brownsville school brouhaha where the black school board wanted to get rid of the Jewish teachers so that they could replace them with their buddies. I doubt that the black school kids would really have been well served by having their Jewish teachers replaced by less competent blacks, but the black teachers given sinecures would surely have enjoyed it.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Anon

    Corrected for usage, with imprecise language crossed out, and additions in bold:

    I doubt that the black school kids would really have been well served by having their Jewish teachers replaced by less incompetent blacks, but the black teachers given sinecures would surely have enjoyed it.

    Unfortunately, the one area in which we would be well-served by no racial quotas, given that the consequences are literally life-long, for both the recipients of the service, as well as for future potential crime victims, is one where racial quotas are enforced with the greatest zeal.

  176. RSDB says:
    @Jack D
    @Anon

    Was there EVER an immigrant group that met Ross's (and your) beauty standards as compared to Anglos? You can say a lot about the Slavs and their relationship with alcohol but as far as beauty goes, they are not a bad looking group (at least the young females). Immigrants tend to be working class and I think the average working class Slav is a more handsome specimen than the average working class Brit and tends to have more teeth. In 1900 this would have been even more true - working class Brits were stunted by poor diet.

    And beauty isn't everything. The "beautiful" Germans certainly did not act beautifully in the 20th century.

    Replies: @RSDB

    I’m not sure “Anon” necessarily agrees with Ross’s assessments so much as with the values of a society that allowed him to publish them and still be seriously regarded.

    But anyway I want to thank you for standing up for poor Slavs (probably mostly Poles and Ukrainians) from a century ago; your comment is correct.

  177. @J1234
    @trelane


    Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.
     
    I agree with that, generally speaking. I can remember a time, however, when - right here in the US - a Slavic surname implied a lack of sophistication or even a lack of beauty for a woman. I never thought that perception was even remotely accurate, but some folks believed that back when I was a kid.

    BTW, on the subject of Melania's speaking voice, she's apparently fluent in five languages - I believe the same five languages that Slavoj Zizek can speak. It isn't just the women of Slovenia who are beautiful. The country itself is quite spectacular, based on the pictures I've seen.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Thea

    Why leave to move to this crap hole country?

  178. @Anon 2
    Standard stereotype in Europe:

    Germanics are scientific (and obsessed with weapons).
    Romance people (Italians, French, Spanish, ...) are artistic.
    Slavs are spiritual.

    God seems to like Slavs - there are 240 million Slavs, and only 120 million
    Germanics (incl. 20 million Scandinavians). That’s why Hitler never had
    a chance. Let’s not forget, “The meek shall inherit the earth,” and the Slavs,
    unlike the Germanics, were never known for their arrogance.

    The Slavs see the Celts (Irish, Scotch, Welsh) and the Portuguese
    as their natural allies. In fact, to the Polish or Russian ear Portuguese
    sounds vaguely Slavonic. There is a growing amount of intermarriage
    between the Polish and the Iberians. Huge numbers of Spanish
    and Portuguese students spend a year or two in Poland under the
    Erasmus student exchange program. The other day I saw a comment
    under a Polish pop song (sung by Sanah, famous 21-year-old Polish
    vocalist) on YouTube, made by a young Portuguese fellow, “Oh, how
    I crave to be Polish, but I’m not.” Polish music is staging a resurgence.
    Polish vocalists, Roxie Wegiel (13 years old) and Viki Gabor (12 years old)
    won the Junior Eurovision song contests two years in a row. Polish
    rappers like Mata and Taco Hemingway get 200-300 million views on
    YouTube, which is Dua Lipa territory.

    Replies: @Ancient Briton

    Does Anybody have anything nice to say about the English? [No Irish NeedApply]

  179. @Daniel Chieh
    I wonder how much Russophobia is driven by female jealousy of Slavic women?

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    I didn’t want to make a redundant comment but having been to Russia and seen such a high percentage of drop-dead gorgeous women in Moscow, I suspect that a lot of this comes from Senior being shortchanged in the looks department.

  180. @Anon
    In his book The Old World in the New written in 1920, E.A. Ross didn't have too many good things to say about the Slavs. They were generally characterized as poverty stricken stupid sloppy drunken brutes and wife beaters. Many went to the South to become farmers, others worked in the mines. Ross also said they were ugly with sloping short foreheads as opposed to the tall forehead good looking Anglos, Nordics and Germans(which he called "Alpines").

    Gotta love the good old days when you could publish a tell-it-like-it-is book like that and still be a professor of political science at Stanford. It was what kept America sane, when we were all allowed to tell the truth. But Ross forewarned us in the same book that everyone was already afraid to offend the Jews even then as they were well organized and controlled the media. He also said the Jews were over sensitive, unscrupulous, pleasure seeking, and ugly.

    Replies: @Jack D, @MarkinLA

    Well it is true that I saw a far higher percentage of young Russian women that you would call hot compared to the percentage of Russian men you would call handsome. In one Russian bar the hostess (who spoke English) even admitted that the women are stunning the men not so much.

  181. @Hibernian
    @Art Deco

    They don't have many present adherents, but historically they were influential in shaping WASP culture. Four US presidents, both Presidents Adams, Fillmore and Taft, were Unitarians (some had traditional Christian tendencies while Jefferson and some other congregants in traditional churches had deist tendencies similar to the Unitarians.) Hoover and Nixon were Quakers.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Eisehower’s mother started out as an anabaptist and ended up in the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He, on the other hand, spent 40 years in the military. There’s some influence.

    Hoover and Nixon grew up in a Friends congregation. Nixon’s private writings suggest his actual religious views were the sparest sort of liberal protestantism tending to deism, and, of course, he enlisted in the Navy in 1942. Now look at the revealed preferences of these two men. Hoover’s private home was this 5,000 sq foot International Style mess:

    https://www.nps.gov/places/lou-henry-and-herbert-hoover-house.htm

    The Nixons owned two homes which had 17,000 sq feet between them. There’s plain living for you.

    I have no clue what you mean by ‘WASP culture’. The denominations in question were important in New England and Pennsylvania, not anywhere else. And no, I don’t think our interlocutor is going to show his work in substantiating the claim that our contemporary disorders are attributable to the culture of early 19th century protestant confessions.

  182. Watch the women’s events at international track and field meetings. The Slavic women are not only beautiful but they kick some serious ass athletically. Makes one forget about all of the hatred which we have been taught.

  183. Speaking of Nosferatu, has anybody seen him and Rod Rosenstein together?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Steve in Greensboro

    Speaking of Nosferatu, has anybody seen him and Rod Rosenstein together?

    No, I can't recall ever seeing Rod Rosenstein and Peter Strzok together. Why do you ask?


    https://i.imgflip.com/2e2u1b.gif

  184. I am so glad I know now why my wildly politically incorrect views on everything have had zero impact on my bottom line. President Trump is protecting me. Only Unity Save the Serbs.

  185. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn’t specifically recruit peasants.
     
    The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can't successfully compete with them in the open market. The folks at the bottom of the heap are generally happy with their Jewish intermediaries or at least realize that whoever replaces them, even if they are of the same ethnicity as they are, is not going to treat them any better.

    You saw this in the US with, for example, the Ocean Hill–Brownsville school brouhaha where the black school board wanted to get rid of the Jewish teachers so that they could replace them with their buddies. I doubt that the black school kids would really have been well served by having their Jewish teachers replaced by less competent blacks, but the black teachers given sinecures would surely have enjoyed it.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke, @Anon

    The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can’t successfully compete with them in the open market.

    “Can’t successfully compete” with Jews is a notion that is entirely dependent on a relative comparison between the protections and hostilities allowed for each competing group.

    Jews tend to afforded the most protections and available hostile measures, and so they do not very often compete on a playing field that is anything but vertical in their favor.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Jews tend to afforded the most protections and available hostile measures,

    Actually, Jews are expected by their detractors to tolerate artillery barrages on border towns, among other things.

  186. @JohnnyWalker123
    @trelane

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon

    High fructose corn syrup in America

  187. Jews have never gotten over the Cossack uprisings in the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth.

  188. @Anon
    A couple of Slavs just got in trouble. Serbian soccer player Aleksandar Katai was released from the Los Angeles Galaxy last Friday following a day of indignant protests by fans outside Dignity Health Sports Park. His wife Tea Katai made Instagram posts comparing police-brutality protestors to cattle, called for violent action against them (“shoot the s***s”), and captioned an image of a supposed looter carrying off a pair of sneakers with “Black Nikes Matter.” Here's a picture of them:

    https://static.vesti.rs/slike-4/TEA-KATAI-EKSKLUZIVNO-ZA-KURIR-Nisam-rasista-Huligani-idu-gradom-i-lome-SMUCILO-MI-SE-DA-GLEDAM-NASILJE.jpg

    Recent Slavic immigrants from Eastern Europe are the most anti-left. They escaped communism, don't need to go right back into it.

    Replies: @Denis

    They didn’t “escape from communism”, the guy started playing in American teams a few years ago, and they are not particularly “anti-left”. The woman just made some statements on the internet that, to her, seemed like innocuous commentary. This is what people do in most of the world, they speak freely, without policing themselves. She was under the mistaken impression that that was permissible in the west; it is not.

  189. @Forbes
    @JimB

    Rather than a cosmetic surgeon, more likely the photographer knew to pose her straight on the nose, with the head tilting down in order to diminish her proboscis.

    Replies: @JimB

    There is an obvious cosmetic surgery scar on the right side of her nose. And her teeth have been capped.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @JimB

    Her teeth aren't toilet-bowl white. They haven't been capped. Cigarette smoking is uncommon among the young nowadays, so they don't have stained teeth. Among people of a certain vintage, you also see teeth that are discolored because they were given anti-biotics at the wrong time in their youth. You don't see that among the young, either. Orthodontics has been the mode among common-and-garden bourgeois for 50 years and among wage earners for about 30 years. There is no cosmetic surgery scar outside of your imagination.

  190. @Steve in Greensboro
    Speaking of Nosferatu, has anybody seen him and Rod Rosenstein together?

    Replies: @anon

    Speaking of Nosferatu, has anybody seen him and Rod Rosenstein together?

    No, I can’t recall ever seeing Rod Rosenstein and Peter Strzok together. Why do you ask?

  191. @JimDandy
    @william munny

    I just finished it (for the first time) last week. I had been hearing people saying exactly what you say about it for the past few years--from Jordan Peterson to the late Justin Raimondo over at AntiWar.com. Y'all are right.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @The Last Real Calvinist

    I read Demons earlier this year, also for the first time.

    2020 is an excellent time to be paying attention to this book.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  192. @Sincerity.net
    Steve, I wish you commented a bit more. Sometimes we normal mortal cannot understand your deep thoughts.

    Partial to Slavs: Eastern Europeans like his wife? Not partial to others tribes like Brits, Germanic, or Southern Europeans? Why?
    Or Slavs as the root in the name "slave"? Trump seems to be partial to ex-slaves and allows them to riot, regurgitate insane theories about repression of Blacks, which originate from White leftists.
    And, of course, Trump would never dare to be "racist", aka race realist, though he sometimes disobeys the #PCGagOrder (never speak negatively of 'minorities' as not to cause 'prejudice')

    Replies: @Uncle Sam

    The word Slav has nothing to do with slaves or slavery. It originates from the Slavic word “slava” which means, depending on the Slavic language in question , glory, fame, greatness, blessed, anointed or a national or religious festival or holiday. It has no negative connotations or implications.

  193. @Anonymous
    I’m a Slav, and in the interests of full transparency, I did receive the support packet the neurotic Jewess below is concerned about. I just want to add that it’s about time us Slavs got some love. Ever since the dissolution of Czechoslovakia, we never get to have anything nice around Eastern Europe!

    https://twitter.com/joshlecash/status/1270090115130380288?s=20

    Replies: @anon, @Kyle

    Politicians giving out hats for their supporters to wear is bad. Cause, you know, Hitler.

  194. @Percy Gryce
    @ScarletNumber

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_great_lord/snM5AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=partial%20to%20Slavs

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    That’s a translation.

  195. @JimDandy
    @Bardon Kaldian

    ALT-RIGHT CHAMPIONING POORLY-WRITTEN RUSSIAN NOVEL

    By Paul Blumenthal
    @Huffpo


    You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.

    ***

    Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox

    Demons is a seriously underrated book, and a depressingly relevant one.

    I think part of the reason for its lack of popularity in the West is because its the most political of Dostoevsky’s works, and his ideology is hard to adopt yourself if you aren’t Russian. Doesn’t mean it isn’t worth reading at all, but it does require a bit of background knowledge about what Dostoevsky and men like him actually believed to get the most out of it. C&P and the Brothers are easier to just dive into without any.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @nebulafox

    The depiction of the progressives--particularly that meeting where they can't even really decide whether or not it's a meeting--requires no research to grasp. But you're right, it's his most political novel--and his darkest. And it's long. It took me awhile to really get into it, I must admit. All the interpersonal-relationships drama, and so on. But, ultimately, it blew me away. It really starts firing on all cylinders from that meeting (which is hilarious) on.

    The translation I read was excellent, but the idiots omitted the censored chapter and put it in the footnotes! So I didn't read it until the very end. It might be the best/most important chapter in the book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)#Censored_chapter

  196. @SFG
    @Desiderius

    You have the history and tradition of the Catholic Church without the truly horrifying pedophilia scandal.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dissident

    I have copied below YetAnotherAnon’s response to this comment of yours that appears further down in the thread, as his echoes my own. Below his quoted comment, please find additional questions and material of my own.

    How much of this “truly horrifying pedophilia scandal” is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?

    To SFG and anyone else who shares the view he expressed, I would ask the following questions.

    On what basis do you feel confident making such a summary condemnation? How much do you actually know about the matter-in-question? How much time and effort have you invested in informing yourself of what the other side

    [MORE]
    those that dissent from the prevailing, Respectable, Main Stream Media-promoted Narrative– have to say? Have you sought-out any sources that defend or even merely give voice to any of the accused or even convicted entities?

    Have you considered whether the use of the term pedophilia in reporting on the scandal, as opposed to pederasty, may reflect a deliberate effort to deceive? An effort to deflect attention from any specifically homosexual aspect of the scandal? Of the accusers, how many were prepubescent children– girls and boys, respectively? How many post-pubescent adolescent males?

    Related:
    This comment from this past January 15th, in which I cited and linked-to this comment by HA from August 2018, and also linked-to the article Homosexuality and the Church Crisis (Brian Clowes, 2010)

  197. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman
    @Neil Templeton


    Slavs had a slave history long before 1619.
     
    Yes, the resemblance between "Slav" and "slave" is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs' history of being enslaved.

    Replies: @Black-hole creator, @Anonymous

    Yes, the resemblance between “Slav” and “slave” is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs’ history of being enslaved.

    Did the word “Slav” come from the word “slave,” or did the word “slave” come from the word “Slav”?

  198. Eastern European women are notably better looking than their Western counterparts, especially Ukrainian and Russian women. Back in the days when there was a relationship between marriage and childbearing, if 30% of the men were slaughtered in consecutive generations the few survivors had their pick of the best looking women.

    It’s amazing what 100 years of selective breeding can do.

  199. @Anon
    @Jack D


    The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can’t successfully compete with them in the open market.
     
    "Can't successfully compete" with Jews is a notion that is entirely dependent on a relative comparison between the protections and hostilities allowed for each competing group.

    Jews tend to afforded the most protections and available hostile measures, and so they do not very often compete on a playing field that is anything but vertical in their favor.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Jews tend to afforded the most protections and available hostile measures,

    Actually, Jews are expected by their detractors to tolerate artillery barrages on border towns, among other things.

  200. @JimB
    @Forbes

    There is an obvious cosmetic surgery scar on the right side of her nose. And her teeth have been capped.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Her teeth aren’t toilet-bowl white. They haven’t been capped. Cigarette smoking is uncommon among the young nowadays, so they don’t have stained teeth. Among people of a certain vintage, you also see teeth that are discolored because they were given anti-biotics at the wrong time in their youth. You don’t see that among the young, either. Orthodontics has been the mode among common-and-garden bourgeois for 50 years and among wage earners for about 30 years. There is no cosmetic surgery scar outside of your imagination.

  201. @JimB
    @DextersLabRat

    It must be nice having orthodontists and plastic surgeons in the family.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Jane Plain

    She’s not the only one who’s had a little work done.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/667869819712435641/

  202. @DextersLabRat
    Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.

    She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52ee8f54e4b0186ede027e97/1411487077985-7WV8NJ92I03096TDQM5T/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPXPXkDKELR1g_Z8WfKorcJ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1URa2vM_mLhkY6JSJWNdRLcMU-vJyRaTcmfwfpV6wiKO5_78dgROcH-kL0R2Wc765bg/JenniferSenior.jpg

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @JimB, @Colin Wright, @Jane Plain

    This is really to commenter Jack D: care to respond to this? You’re always quick to respond to me, so I thought you might want to respond to the “painfully Jewish” bit.

  203. @JohnnyWalker123
    @trelane

    In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.

    I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon

    They walk instead of driving. Less junk food.

  204. @Jake
    Is Jennifer Senior a Jew?

    Jews are perfectly at home in the Anglosphere and among WASP Elites. And Jews tend to HATE Russia and Russians, and have unrelenting contempt for other Slavs.

    There is meaning there for those able to see and hear.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Bill Jones

    “Is Jennifer Senior a Jew?”

    Do you have to ask?

    That question replaces my initial one “Is the Pope Catholic?” because their is currently doubt as to the Papacy.

  205. @nebulafox
    @JimDandy

    Demons is a seriously underrated book, and a depressingly relevant one.

    I think part of the reason for its lack of popularity in the West is because its the most political of Dostoevsky's works, and his ideology is hard to adopt yourself if you aren't Russian. Doesn't mean it isn't worth reading at all, but it does require a bit of background knowledge about what Dostoevsky and men like him actually believed to get the most out of it. C&P and the Brothers are easier to just dive into without any.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    The depiction of the progressives–particularly that meeting where they can’t even really decide whether or not it’s a meeting–requires no research to grasp. But you’re right, it’s his most political novel–and his darkest. And it’s long. It took me awhile to really get into it, I must admit. All the interpersonal-relationships drama, and so on. But, ultimately, it blew me away. It really starts firing on all cylinders from that meeting (which is hilarious) on.

    The translation I read was excellent, but the idiots omitted the censored chapter and put it in the footnotes! So I didn’t read it until the very end. It might be the best/most important chapter in the book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)#Censored_chapter

  206. @kaganovitch
    @Steve Sailer

    He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.

    Trump married a Jew?

    Replies: @black sea, @sayless

    OT, kaganovitch, yes, Orthodox Jewish/Dominican, I live in Washington Heights.

  207. @John Derbyshire
    @SFG

    Hungarians are not Slavs.

    Replies: @Anon 2

    Genetically, Hungarians are heavily slavicized Magyars.
    That’s one reason why the Polish and the Hungarians have been
    so close. Their common destiny is to closely guard the territory
    called Central Europe.

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