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From a New York Times opinion columnist:
Is This the Trump Tipping Point?
I know. We’ve said we’ve been here a thousand times before. This time feels different.
By Jennifer Senior
Opinion columnistJune 7, 2020
You never want to say that you’ve reached a tipping point with this administration. Donald J. Trump has proved to be the Nosferatu of American politics: heartless, partial to Slavs, beneath grace and thus far impervious to destruction.
Yup, that’s what she said: “partial to Slavs.”
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Dirty Slav Lover. He even married two (not at the same time).
partial to Slavs : Bad, but’s OK to accuse someone of this. No problem.
partial to Blacks: Good, but it’s never OK to accuse someone of this. If you do, you are unpersoned.
That’s all you need to know.
Deep…deep. I mean…like, you know, heavy. “Nosferatu”; “Partial to Slavs.”
The Gray Hag has been featuring some profound thinkers lately .
Slavs with names like Kushner, Mnuchin and Netanyahu.
Useful might be a 21st-century misery index quantifying how Slavs, Kulaks, whatever have you have suffered in the last 50 yrs or 100 yrs or whatever span of time one wishes to consider. Then compare it to the “plight” of the African-American (to use term Jesse Jackson coined around 1980). Then act accordingly.
I did a search in the comments on ‘Slav’ in the comments. There was only one comment that references this phrase – someone said that it made him laugh.
I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don’t they? So it means that they delete such comments.
I'm guessing the Polish/Czech/Hungarian jetsetter with Ivy degrees who reads the NYT thinks she's either (a) referring to Putin and Russia, in which case no problem, because a lot of these other countries resent Russia for pretty sound historical reasons or (b) one of those nasty provincial people back home who voted for Kaczynski, Orban, etc., not her, a nice person who reads the NYT and thinks Soros is a good guy. (If she is Russian, file under (b).)
Slavic-Americans of other persuasions would be less likely to read the NYT.
Or she's got parentheses, in which case she chuckles at the dig at those Cossacks she remembers from a story handed down by great-Grandma or Fiddler on the Roof.Replies: @John Derbyshire
Steve, I wish you commented a bit more. Sometimes we normal mortal cannot understand your deep thoughts.
Partial to Slavs: Eastern Europeans like his wife? Not partial to others tribes like Brits, Germanic, or Southern Europeans? Why?
Or Slavs as the root in the name “slave”? Trump seems to be partial to ex-slaves and allows them to riot, regurgitate insane theories about repression of Blacks, which originate from White leftists.
And, of course, Trump would never dare to be “racist”, aka race realist, though he sometimes disobeys the #PCGagOrder (never speak negatively of ‘minorities’ as not to cause ‘prejudice’)
That is so bizarre. Slavs? Granted, the NYT hates Eastern Europe because 1) they’re white and 2) Poland and especially Hungary have resisted the Flood to some degree, but Slavs per se? I wonder if she knows the etymology.
That’s the part that keeps them up nights. “We’ve tried everything!”
As many here have noted, Trump is hardly our idea of an ideal leader, but he annoys the royal F out of them and for that, we thank him.
Barack Obama is considered an "ideal leader" by many.
Is it a good thing for us to have deified (apotheosized) "leaders" incarnate?
Wow just wow I can’t even. Imagine making that very same statement with just one minor word substitution!
The fake news new york times is partial to jews. Here's why that's a problem:
partial to Slavs : Bad, but's OK to accuse someone of this. No problem.
partial to Blacks: Good, but it's never OK to accuse someone of this. If you do, you are unpersoned.
That's all you need to know.Replies: @Neil Templeton
Slavs had a slave history long before 1619. Not in American elementary textbooks of course. I’m sick of this shit.
Russians and American blacks were freed from slavery at about the same time (1861-2). Since that time Russians built a world empire and launched Sputnik. What did American blacks accomplished?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cDLZqe735k
It's their prerogative.
Dear goodness, so the next level isn’t accusing someone of being “partial to whites”, but instead calling out individual white ethnic race partiality.
I guess that’s the preferred camel’s nose to getting outright white hatred accepted.
Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.
She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine:
She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine.'
It is hard to come up any other explanation for why she'd assume being 'partial to Slavs' was a bad thing.
Donald Trump, Slavophile. As if today’s rhetoric wasn’t already like something straight out of Dostoyevsky’s Demons.
Hmm, why would she feel animus to Slavs…
https://www.jewishbookcouncil.org/jennifer-senior
Apparently, The Backward has a high reverse gear, much like a few classic huge cars that had the same number of speeds reverse as going forward. The old Maybachs come to mind. I remember listening to some asshat WWII vet in St. Louis tell about how they got a confiscated nazi staff car like this up to 60 mph in reverse on the Autobahn. Wound up wrecking and totaling it. It would be worth millions now. Unfortunately the jerks doing it survived.
“But why doesn’t he like me? Is it my hair?“
Sailer’s law of female journalism strikes again.
I wonder how much Russophobia is driven by female jealousy of Slavic women?
According to Google that phrase has never been used before. So that’s something.
I wonder if all the looting and rioting reminds Ms. Senor of Cossacks and Pogroms.
There is the term “Slavophile.” These were 19th century Russian intellectuals, including Dostoevsky, who sought to unite all the Slavic people against Western Europe. But I don’t think this is what Ms. Senoir had in mind.
Orthodoxy is sexy and winning converts. This underlying dynamic is why they were so paranoid about Putin and are so paranoid about Orban (although Huns are only Slav adjacent, Poles like Posobiec also set off alram bells) in the first place.Replies: @SFG
They’ve blessed us with towering intellects like Ta-Nehisi Coates.
It sounds like a non-sequitur until you remember the people who dictate and limit culture in the US historically overseeing, enslaving, and genociding Eastern Europeans. Jennifer Senior: Ted Talks and New Yorker/New York Times twaddle, in other words, a person whose employment depends on her race.
Thanks for the malicious fantasy. Always an education.
I guess it’s supposed to be funny, but I’m not sure why. Like, “Here’s something witty: Trump is Nosferatu who is Romanian, and Romanians are not-really but sort-of Slavs, and Trump is married to a leggy Slav, and oh remember that Russian conspiracy theory that was like 3+ years of bullshit from my cousins? Yeah, Russians are Slavs. So, umm. Ha ha.”
Worst Jewish comedian award?
Why should it be in American textbooks? This nation was not founded by or for slavs. We would be damn better off had the borders been slammed shut in 1790. The slavs are not our people nor will they ever be.
Few people know that Captain John Smith went to Poland
to recruit artisans before his famous voyage. They landed with him
in 1607, and helped to establish what became known as the Jamestown
colony. Even fewer people know that Poland and England were major allies
at the time when Poland as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
was at the height of its power around 1600, and was the largest and most powerful
country in Europe. Poland was a major exporter of wheat, and Polish
ships sailed regularly to London carrying wheat, etc. Shakespeare and Newton
grew healthy and strong on Polish wheat. Polish merchants and seamen even
had a small Polish section in London which is commemorated by Poland Street
in the Soho district.
Of course, I shouldn’t have to add that Gen. Kosciuszko from Poland played
an important role in the American Revolution, was friends with both Washington
and Jefferson, and designed West Point while Gen. Pulaski lost his life fighting
for the independence of the new republic. There are many towns and even
cities in the U.S, named Warsaw and Pulaski. There are more statues erected
in the U.S. in honor of Gen. Kosciuszko than any other person except Washington.
In fact one of them, located in front of the White House, was defaced in recent
riots.
10 million Polish Americans. True, not very many compared
to German- or Italian-Americans.
Americans are so ignorant of world history that many of them presume all societies that had slaves only used blacks. That is if they are even aware nations other than the U.S practiced slavery- some aren’t.
Seriously the focus on American history is why we are so damned nutty. Because no one wants to be “on the wrong side of history” and we definitely present our saga as a good guys vs bad guys struggle.
Pulaski, Kosciuszko, etc.Replies: @Mike Zwick
So let's actually think about that rather than simply regurgitating the utter stupidities of VDARE.
Quakers, Unitarians, and Universalists were all planted here from dear old England by 1790. I assert that per capita they did as much for nascent Leftism in the US as did the Jews later. In fact, without the WASP born and bred heretical groups, Jews never could have hoped to hit the ground running when they began to arrive in large numbers.
And then there is the sordid history of Leftism produced by the church that is the direct descendants of New England Anglo-Saxon Puritans: Congregational. Have you any idea of how much ultra liberalism Congregationalists produced just in the 18th and 19th centuries?
The vast majority of Congregationalist churches formed the United Church of Christ in the 1950s. It has been the most overall Liberal church in the country since then.Replies: @Art Deco
Great. That should help him in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
Jest stronniczy w stosunku do Słowian! To jest funkcja, a nie błąd!
Yes, the resemblance between “Slav” and “slave” is not a coincidence. They are etymologically connected because of the Slavs’ history of being enslaved.
The NYT article has in it a lot of visceral hatred of Trump, slavs, republicans and whoever is not saluting the flag of Saint Floyd. The comments there are just as appalling.
I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad
Eastern European Christian immigrants tended to go west to somewhere between Buffalo and the Twin Cities, especially Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago. I think the ones in NYC might tend to read the Post.
There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called "the Dom" which stood for "Polski Dom (something)".also
https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/
Indeed, Warhol was originally "Warhola", and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .Replies: @Anon 2, @RSDB
Eastern European or Slavic women are possibly the most attractive women in that part of the larger world.
Why wouldn’t a normal man be partial to one? Listen to her speak.
I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon
Trump's sharp eye for female beauty is yet another factor driving the NYT ilk crazy.
As sad as it sounds, a large number of Americans have no idea what a Slav is. Some will think she misspelled slave. Perhaps that’s her intent?
Probably Democratic voters don’t even know why they should be upset about the Ukraine/impeachment brouhaha. Ukrainians are honorary non-Slavs to her I guess.
We’re gonna need a bigger “Early Life” section.
Mystifying. Does this refer to POTUS’ taste in women or to his support from nefarious foreign agents?
If it’s women, there’s an easy solution. The Donald should separate from Melania and start cohabiting with a Black lady.
And, if it’s foreign agents, then the Donald should decline Mr Putin’s help and start making approaches to President Xi.
I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad
As a Slavic American I have to say I’m not actually offended in the slightest that the NYT is deploying this as an insult. I just wish others wouldn’t be so thin skinned. I know the world has gone crazy but I don’t actually get offended by Polish jokes. I’m sure a critical race theorist could swing in on a chandelier and explain how that shows just how entrenched my white privilege and unconscious bias are.
The word slave is connected with Slavs because a large fraction of the slaves sold in medieval Europe and Osman Empire were of Slavic origin. See e.g. the Slavic (Slave) Quay in Venice, one of main slave markets in medieval Europe.
The NYT article has in it a lot of visceral hatred of Trump, slavs, republicans and whoever is not saluting the flag of Saint Floyd. The comments there are just as appalling.
The term “Slav” will soon be banned, because it triggers people by reminding them of that other almost identical word, but spelled with an “e” at the end. Say “Eastern European” instead.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slave#Etymology
But Western Slavs (Polish, Czech, Slovak) inhabit Central
Europe, Eastern Slavs (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, ...)
inhabit Eastern Europe and much of Asia, and Southern
Slavs (Slovenians, Serbs, Croats, ...) inhabit Southern Europe.
The Slavic territory is the largest territory on earth.
these people are literally still hopping mad about relatively minor stuff that happened to them 100+ years ago.
I’m a Slav, and in the interests of full transparency, I did receive the support packet the neurotic Jewess below is concerned about. I just want to add that it’s about time us Slavs got some love. Ever since the dissolution of Czechoslovakia, we never get to have anything nice around Eastern Europe!
As another commentator pointed out, the word “slave” is derived from the word “Slav”, because so many Slavic people were enslaved:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/slave#Etymology
“This time feels different” is the funny part. The 1001st time, but this time it’s different.
Maybe she meant to write “Rasputin” instead of Nosferatu.
It’s all part of Trump’s reverse holocaust plans:
Maybe she likes to sing and wanted to get into Yale to join its well-regarded Slavic chorus, but was rejected and had to settle for Princeton instead?
If you want to know what’s going on in NYC you read the Post. If you want to know what’s really going on in the heads of the power elite, you read the Jewish Daily Forward, and a few other periodicals. The New York Times is only good for bird cage lining, provided you don’t mind offending the intelligence of the bird.
There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called “the Dom” which stood for “Polski Dom (something)”.
also
https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/
Indeed, Warhol was originally “Warhola”, and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .
No, that’s exactly what she had in mind.
Orthodoxy is sexy and winning converts. This underlying dynamic is why they were so paranoid about Putin and are so paranoid about Orban (although Huns are only Slav adjacent, Poles like Posobiec also set off alram bells) in the first place.
Underestimate us Slavs, and you might wind up… unpleasantly surprised.
Oh, yes that’s right we’re BACK!!
Wouldn’t it make more sense to call him Rasputin? Czarist elements tried removing him (literally by hook and crook) but failed numerous times.
Obviously “Slav” is just a code word for “Russia”. So this is a more subtle form of Russiagate. Bad Orange Hitler being “partial to Slavs” means he’s Putler’s doublesekret agent!
Some people don’t seem to have a lot of cards in their deck .I guess that’s why they keep playing the same ones.
Rather a strange comment. Writer apparently thinks Slavs, a very broad group, are bad in some unspecified way. Melania is the best looking first lady in the entire history of the US, is multi-lingual and obviously intelligent. She’d be getting glowing press treatment were she the spouse of any other president. Put her next to this Senior person and choose which one you prefer.
https://youtu.be/JXdbseRz0lcReplies: @PiltdownMan
The moon landing could never have happened without sassy black ladies!
Standard stereotype in Europe:
Germanics are scientific (and obsessed with weapons).
Romance people (Italians, French, Spanish, …) are artistic.
Slavs are spiritual.
God seems to like Slavs – there are 240 million Slavs, and only 120 million
Germanics (incl. 20 million Scandinavians). That’s why Hitler never had
a chance. Let’s not forget, “The meek shall inherit the earth,” and the Slavs,
unlike the Germanics, were never known for their arrogance.
The Slavs see the Celts (Irish, Scotch, Welsh) and the Portuguese
as their natural allies. In fact, to the Polish or Russian ear Portuguese
sounds vaguely Slavonic. There is a growing amount of intermarriage
between the Polish and the Iberians. Huge numbers of Spanish
and Portuguese students spend a year or two in Poland under the
Erasmus student exchange program. The other day I saw a comment
under a Polish pop song (sung by Sanah, famous 21-year-old Polish
vocalist) on YouTube, made by a young Portuguese fellow, “Oh, how
I crave to be Polish, but I’m not.” Polish music is staging a resurgence.
Polish vocalists, Roxie Wegiel (13 years old) and Viki Gabor (12 years old)
won the Junior Eurovision song contests two years in a row. Polish
rappers like Mata and Taco Hemingway get 200-300 million views on
YouTube, which is Dua Lipa territory.
So here’s a good follow:
https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1269701193992933377?s=20
Interesting that Churchill came up in that context since I just caught this last night:
Kind of eerie that I’ve been saying the exact same thing about the flaw in American education that Nixon convicted the Chinese of fifty years ago. Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted.
If someone who is on Twitter could pass this clip along to AgeofShoddy I’d appreciate it.
A multicultural society:
No more football, etc.
I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.Replies: @Ganderson, @Reg Cæsar
Re: Slavs as Eastern European
But Western Slavs (Polish, Czech, Slovak) inhabit Central
Europe, Eastern Slavs (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, …)
inhabit Eastern Europe and much of Asia, and Southern
Slavs (Slovenians, Serbs, Croats, …) inhabit Southern Europe.
The Slavic territory is the largest territory on earth.
I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad
NYT commenters base their perspectives of Slavs from memes. (They’re like rednecks but on a whole other level.)
I guess New York Times columnists can’t be bothered to know that Nosferatu was supposed to be Romanian, and that Romanians aren’t entirely slavic.
It must be nice having orthodontists and plastic surgeons in the family.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/667869819712435641/
Back when it used disqus I was banned from commenting at National Review for calling them Slavophobes. I was just being proportionate to the baseless accusations in the article too.
Truthfully the honeymoon between Jews and Russians (even Russian Communists) was relatively brief, starting with the Revolution and ending with the birth of Israel. Communism was supposed to be internationalist but in truth Soviet Communism was jealously nationalist (a circle that they never really squared) so there was no room for divided loyalty. But it took a while for the Jewish Fellow Travelers in the West to get the message that the love affair back home was over and they continued to love Russia even after Russia no longer loved them back.
Well, there’s one good thing you can say about Hitler; he was never partial to Slavs.
‘Nosferatu’ is just a synonym for ‘vampire’.
The name of the vampire in the film Nosferatu was ‘Count Orlok.’
I have never seen that film, but I have seen two other F W Murnau films, Faust, and Sunrise: A song of Two Humans.
I recommend both for people interested in cinematography. Sunrise has beautiful pictorialism-esque cinematography, as well as some interesting effects.
https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1269701193992933377?s=20
Interesting that Churchill came up in that context since I just caught this last night:
https://youtu.be/BeXOQIwPRoU?t=283
Kind of eerie that I've been saying the exact same thing about the flaw in American education that Nixon convicted the Chinese of fifty years ago. Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted.
If someone who is on Twitter could pass this clip along to AgeofShoddy I'd appreciate it.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @nebulafox
That video shows the cuckish nature of Nixon. The biggest thing in the heart of a soft White fella is to connect emotionally with a Leftist.
God, let’s hope so!
Welp.
It is all over for DJT.
This womyn that everyone reads everyday called Trump a: Nosferatu !
No way he recovers from that.
Does the New York Times even fact check its opinion columnists?
Is Jennifer Senior a Jew?
Jews are perfectly at home in the Anglosphere and among WASP Elites. And Jews tend to HATE Russia and Russians, and have unrelenting contempt for other Slavs.
There is meaning there for those able to see and hear.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_great_lord/snM5AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=partial%20to%20Slavs
Jest stronniczy w stosunku do Słowian! To jest funkcja, a nie błąd!
Replies: @Lot
I don’t think most Polish Americans in the Midwest and PA are aware Poles are part of a larger Slavic group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KRc-ceWE2EReplies: @anon
over the past week I have become conscious of anything “ghetto” in my life or appearing on TV – now I take steps to banish such things instead of allowing it to pollute me.
No more football, etc.
I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.
The walls are closing in! The beginning of the end! Bombshell!
Trump partial to Slavs, coming from a Jewess? Takes one to know one. He must’ve picked that up from working with the Jews since his early days in NYC. After all, how many hundreds of years did the Jews try to conquer Poland, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Hungary and most of all, Russia? Jews are practically obsessed with the Slavs. Ashkenazi Jews are from Eastern Europe, hence many are mixed with Slavs.
Mask off
I don’t know. The accent kinda killed it. She also comes across a little cold. First Ladies have to be all American, warm and bubbly to be popular.
Twice as many blacks were killed in Chicago on May 31, 2020, as were unarmed blacks killed by police in the entire United States in all of 2019.
https://twitter.com/nicolegelinas/status/1270191236821979136?s=20
Nosferatu is Dracula is Vlad the Impaler is Vladimir Putin?
https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1269701193992933377?s=20
Interesting that Churchill came up in that context since I just caught this last night:
https://youtu.be/BeXOQIwPRoU?t=283
Kind of eerie that I've been saying the exact same thing about the flaw in American education that Nixon convicted the Chinese of fifty years ago. Are here we are with our shortage of Churchills as Dick predicted.
If someone who is on Twitter could pass this clip along to AgeofShoddy I'd appreciate it.Replies: @RichardTaylor, @nebulafox
I think it was cool of Nixon to do that. Ever since McKinley’s assassination, the Presidency has been a protected bubble by necessity. One of the few times that bubble was pierced, and he did it at a time of unrest where he was probably really was risking his physical security.
As far as the greater point goes, when you make credentionalism a purpose unto itself, you get a society befitting that. Part of the explosion of mental illness in the younger generation probably has something to do with the nonstop feeling of going across a proverbial minefield. The wrong mistake, from an ill-timed comment to the wrong grade, and you blow yourself up. This is assuming you aren’t already screwed before you realized what the stakes ever were, which includes a lot of “lumpy” talent: diamonds in the rough, late bloomers or misfits, whatever you want to call it.
One of the big strengths of the US has traditionally been that lumpy talent has had the ability to make something of itself, but that’s become less and less true over the past few decades as the pseudo-meritocracy entrenched itself. Perversely, we rhetorically praise difference and the willingness to be different more than ever, while in reality, tolerating the real stuff less than ever.
At least she knows she needs confirmation of what is real. Someone could start by informing her she is on planet earth.
In general, Euro women are much more lithe than American women. Even when you adjust for ethnicity and body fat percentage, you notice this. The steatopygous/voluptuous body type is more common out here in America, even among White women.
I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?
One of the few things the EU did right was aggressively banning harmful and questionable food additives that are perfectly legal in the US:
Food Ingredients Banned in Europe But Not USA
https://lactobacto.com/2019/01/16/food-ingredients-banned-in-europe-but-not-usa/
could be code for “Trump is a Russian asset”, inline with their 3 year long hoax.
In another context the remark could potentially be funny — not hilarious, but passable. However, she overestimated her own wit, as putting in time at the shrillest, most bonkers, most superstitious op-ed page of the major dailies can do to you. Prestigious Racism forms the vanguard against Supremacist Mind Waves
University educated American SJW’s are so dumb: Slavs are not Russians. I know what she meant, but Slavs are not Russians.
I so hate American, Coastal, Ivy-League educated, Democrat-voting women…they are so obnoxious and mostly, ugly who no man would want. I hated these women in college, and I hate them more now. They deserve to die alone and unloved by anyone – they have caused so much destruction to Milennials. No one cares about them, especially after Covid year, 2020…all those miserable cheerleaders of death and disease need to just disappear.
I hadn’t thought the time ripe for an e-campaign to rebrand MAGA as Alt-Existentialism with memey codewords/dog whistles of esoteric reference to the Underground Man; but no matter how off the mark it is, it would at least really confuse the New York media drones.
There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called "the Dom" which stood for "Polski Dom (something)".also
https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/
Indeed, Warhol was originally "Warhola", and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .Replies: @Anon 2, @RSDB
Andy Warhol was of Slovak origin, as was Kim Novak
Trump should stop being partial to slavs and instead date someone else, say for instance, Jennifer Senior.
There were some Slavs in NYC, reading the biographies of Andy Warhol, and his favorite pop singer Debbie Harry, they talk about Polish and Ukrainian neighborhoods: the Velvet Underground got their start in a facility called "the Dom" which stood for "Polski Dom (something)".also
https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-hippest-club-in-the-1960s-east-village/
Indeed, Warhol was originally "Warhola", and was raised in the non-Roman, Catholic Church, although he attended Mass occasionally at a Roman Catholic parish .Replies: @Anon 2, @RSDB
There seem to be an awful lot of Ukrainians in the East Village.
Right? And though I don’t exactly hasten to add material in their favor, I do prefer R&B and Jazz to most Russian music I’ve heard. Maybe I’m biased through experience?
Because they’re the finest writers the world has ever known.
I think that the opposite has become the case, and the resentment among our elites (sic) arising from that drives the present madness. See the movie Young Adult to see this reality distilled. People who dodge the bullet of “making it” end up having productive, happy lives while those uprooted to join the elite end up miserable failures.
He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.
Trump married a Jew?Replies: @black sea, @sayless
Steve should check his facts better.
Jews are perfectly at home in the Anglosphere and among WASP Elites. And Jews tend to HATE Russia and Russians, and have unrelenting contempt for other Slavs.
There is meaning there for those able to see and hear.Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Bill Jones
The NYT has realized that we’ve caught on to their “Dear Fellow White People” routine.
So they’re ramping up the game a bit today:
See how bad you are, My Fellow White Christians? You created all the Evil in the world–TD is so right about you all–and collective guilt applies to White Christians, oh you’d better believe it does. Remember, White Speech is Violence, White Silence is Violence. White Action is Violence, White inaction is violence.
If you’re beginning to get the idea, my FWC people, that “we” believe violence against you is justified, always and everywhere, you’re beginning to catch on. Have a nice day!
NYT - " She works for Humanities Tennessee, an independent affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities, as editor of Chapter 16, a daily web publication that documents the literary life of Tennessee. "
Not what Ch16 says. She's not mentioned at all on their site. Editor is Maria Browning.
https://chapter16.org/about-us/I'll have twenty dollars on childless wine aunt at evens, please.
Paul Gottfried is as good as its gets for Jews in recent academia. Even he is eaten up with anti-Slavic and pro-Germanic biases and bigotries (remember, Angles and Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Dutch, and Danes are linguistically and culturally Germanic: WASP is a Germanic culture). Gottfried asserts that the reason - perhaps almost the only reason - that so many Jews coming to the US starting in the 1870s were radical and criminal is that they came from the Russian Empire, or parts of Poland ruled by Austrians or Berliners. His idea is that those bad Jews were bad because of Slavic culture. Yet, the 'literary' language of 100% of them would have been Germanic (either Yiddish or standard German), and the primary daily language of nearly 100% of them would have Germanic (Yiddish).
The Polish and Russian Jews were culturally and linguistically Germanic by choice. Did those Jews have low IQs? Did they get tricked into choosing Germanic?
And how and why dd Jews switch from Continental Germanic to WASP Germanic?
Are Jews both high IQ and very cunning and focused on advancing themselves at the expense of all others? If so, then Jewish choice of Germanic languages and cultures, as well as Jewish hatred of things Slavic, should tell you almost all you need to know about which European cultures are a way out of this horror story that is the Anglo-Zionist Empire.
Re: This nation was not founded by Slavs
Few people know that Captain John Smith went to Poland
to recruit artisans before his famous voyage. They landed with him
in 1607, and helped to establish what became known as the Jamestown
colony. Even fewer people know that Poland and England were major allies
at the time when Poland as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
was at the height of its power around 1600, and was the largest and most powerful
country in Europe. Poland was a major exporter of wheat, and Polish
ships sailed regularly to London carrying wheat, etc. Shakespeare and Newton
grew healthy and strong on Polish wheat. Polish merchants and seamen even
had a small Polish section in London which is commemorated by Poland Street
in the Soho district.
Of course, I shouldn’t have to add that Gen. Kosciuszko from Poland played
an important role in the American Revolution, was friends with both Washington
and Jefferson, and designed West Point while Gen. Pulaski lost his life fighting
for the independence of the new republic. There are many towns and even
cities in the U.S, named Warsaw and Pulaski. There are more statues erected
in the U.S. in honor of Gen. Kosciuszko than any other person except Washington.
In fact one of them, located in front of the White House, was defaced in recent
riots.
There are about 15 million Slavic Americans, among them
10 million Polish Americans. True, not very many compared
to German- or Italian-Americans.
I thought Nosferatu liked German birds?
Jews really dislike Slavs. It’s strong, and comes spewing out in odd contexts. Blonde jokes are largely slavophobic. Polish jokes are indisputably antislavitic. I can’t think of many others in an American context. American. I wonder what it comes from.
Jews dislike all the ethnic groups they’ve had significant interactions with. Germans, Slavs, White Americans, Palestinians/Arabs…while today’s Jews in the professional/managerial class on up view blacks as useful stormtroopers against Whites, Jews who dealt on a day-to-day basis with blacks strongly disliked them. Though to be fair, blacks have that effect on most everyone. Is it fear turning to hate? Is it simply the inter group friction caused by different personality traits in different populations causing friction?
Jews disliked WASPs (while coveting the women) because Jews were trying to displace WASPs, and in many ways, the two ethnics are opposites, at least in their stereotypical ideal incarnations. That doesn’t seem to be the cause of Jewish hatred for Slavs. Is it? It’s hard to exploit people and think highly of them at the same time. So that’s part of it. Maybe it was fear of the indebted and tax-farmed peasantry rising up. Or perhaps fear that the nobility would mount strong Westernizing campaigns, and uplifted peasantry would compete for the niches Jews occupied, as was mentioned in an earlier thread.
Jack D, why do you have such a negative view of Slavs?
The reality is that it wasn't all negative, in either direction. What you had going on was a love/hate thing, not unlike the relationship between blacks and whites in America. My parents had Polish friends their entire lives. In the war, there were Polish people who hid Jews at great risk to their lives and others who would rat them out to the Germans for a sack of sugar.Replies: @Art Deco
‘Oy vey! The Chosenites are usually at least a little more subtle than this.
She looks about as painfully Jewish as you could imagine.’
It is hard to come up any other explanation for why she’d assume being ‘partial to Slavs’ was a bad thing.
Probably some oblique overwrought ‘clever’ reference to Bram Stoker’s ‘Dracula’ drinking the blood of the locals in Transylvania, combined with the ethnicity of his missus.
And best read in the original Slav, of course.
He married a Jew, a WASP, and a Slav.
Trump married a Jew?
Because the myopic focus on American history is asinine as our country is only 250 years old. It leads to stupid ideas like American exceptionalism, the shining city on a hill, globohomo, and hysterical BLM mania.
Americans are so ignorant of world history that many of them presume all societies that had slaves only used blacks. That is if they are even aware nations other than the U.S practiced slavery- some aren’t.
Seriously the focus on American history is why we are so damned nutty. Because no one wants to be “on the wrong side of history” and we definitely present our saga as a good guys vs bad guys struggle.
People who want you dead see your sense of fair play and raise you weaponized fake-outrage.
You call with good humor, and then they push all-in with unhinged oppression that the Cheka would find excessive.
Your move.
Trump married a Jew?Replies: @black sea, @sayless
If Ivana were Jewish, wouldn’t Ivanka have been Jewish from birth, even if she was raised in a secular home? I mention this because people generally say that she converted to Judaism after marrying her husband.
She was Czech, not Jewish. Ivanka can speak some Czech.
Ivana, Trump’s first wife, was born Ivana Zelničkova in Czechoslovakia.
She was Czech, not Jewish. Ivanka can speak some Czech.
Jennifer Senior is Jewish and apparently has their common view that Slavs are mostly useful for selling liquor to and for loaning money to at usurious rates (shylocking).
I’ll take the bait:
Pulaski, Kosciuszko, etc.
Is this a ‘real’ Christian or a childless wine aunt?
NYT – ” She works for Humanities Tennessee, an independent affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities, as editor of Chapter 16, a daily web publication that documents the literary life of Tennessee. ”
Not what Ch16 says. She’s not mentioned at all on their site. Editor is Maria Browning.
https://chapter16.org/about-us/
I’ll have twenty dollars on childless wine aunt at evens, please.
A Jew? Ivana ex-Trump is a Czech, not a Jewish person.
Steve should check his facts better.
She is not altogether wrong (despite idiotic phrasing). Slavophone world is impervious to self-destructive negrolatry. Trump is close to that position, although, of course, in a completely different cultural context.
Why the snark?
Barack Obama is considered an “ideal leader” by many.
Is it a good thing for us to have deified (apotheosized) “leaders” incarnate?
Apparently God Himself is partial to Slavs:
1. He gave them the largest territory on earth, stretching from the Oder river
all the way to Vladivostok;
2. He gave them the largest population in Europe, 240 million people.
Poland, for example, is a nation of storytellers. It has a higher number
of Nobel Prizes in Literature per capita than either Russia or the U. S.
Sapkowski’s worldwide success is not an accident. Sapkowski is known
for the Witcher Saga and the Hussite Trilogy.
Nosferatu was an anti-Semitic meme in its day.
Doesn’t this woman even know the history of anti-Semitism.
More education required.
If an NYT columnist calls Donald Trump Nosferatu, does this mean the end of the gothic vampire romance.
I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad
They do delete sufficiently critical comments.
I’m guessing the Polish/Czech/Hungarian jetsetter with Ivy degrees who reads the NYT thinks she’s either (a) referring to Putin and Russia, in which case no problem, because a lot of these other countries resent Russia for pretty sound historical reasons or (b) one of those nasty provincial people back home who voted for Kaczynski, Orban, etc., not her, a nice person who reads the NYT and thinks Soros is a good guy. (If she is Russian, file under (b).)
Slavic-Americans of other persuasions would be less likely to read the NYT.
Or she’s got parentheses, in which case she chuckles at the dig at those Cossacks she remembers from a story handed down by great-Grandma or Fiddler on the Roof.
Such a confusing comment.
After wracking my brains, I decided that maybe “partial to Slavs” is not meant to be a flaw – after all, her list of Trump’s traits also includes “impervious to destruction”. But then in what sense is the original Nosferatu “partial to Slavs”? Well, he lives among them and preys upon them. So is she trying to make us see Ivana and Melania as brides of Dracula? In which case it is a Trumpophobic remark, not a Slavophobic one.
However, obviously most people interpreted it as Slavophobic. And I’ve learned enough about American elites by now to expect a Slavophobic journalist to be Jewish, an expectation which turned out to be true in this case. So even if the most coherent reading of the phrase that I can find, is Trumpophobic, is it nonetheless intended to sound Slavophobic?
Faced with all these ambiguities, I retreat to simpler bedrock convictions, such as my belief that the New York Times is a blight on western culture. I wish it would cease to exist. But apparently it is becoming more influential as local newspapers go out of business.
Orthodoxy is sexy and winning converts. This underlying dynamic is why they were so paranoid about Putin and are so paranoid about Orban (although Huns are only Slav adjacent, Poles like Posobiec also set off alram bells) in the first place.Replies: @SFG
You have the history and tradition of the Catholic Church without the truly horrifying pedophilia scandal.
This comment from this past January 15th, in which I cited and linked-to this comment by HA from August 2018, and also linked-to the article Homosexuality and the Church Crisis (Brian Clowes, 2010)
I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon
Maybe.
One of the few things the EU did right was aggressively banning harmful and questionable food additives that are perfectly legal in the US:
Food Ingredients Banned in Europe But Not USA
https://lactobacto.com/2019/01/16/food-ingredients-banned-in-europe-but-not-usa/
Slav actually means “fame and glory”, which explains why it is in so many Slavic first names, but yeah, it is also the root word of “slave” for a historical reason.
So, "Slavs" are those who speak or those whose words can be understood. For all Slavic speakers, Germans, their closest "other" neighbors, were N(i)emci, i.e. those who are "mute", people whose language is incomprehensible.
You respond with, “My people have overcome much, much worse throughout their long and distinguished history than petty insults from easily offended garbage like you. Your move.”
One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and “foreign”, but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her. I see her as the opposite to a lot of popular female celebrities – say an actress like Reese Witherspoon, for example – who come across as warm and bubbly on the surface, but are unmistakably brittle underneath.
Perhaps it endears her to you, but I doubt it endears you to her. In all likelihood she doesn't know anything about you. (How did I Do, Reg?)Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
I find it hard to believe that not one NYT commenters had complained. They must have some Slavic readers, don't they? So it means that they delete such comments.Replies: @Hibernian, @415 reasons, @Kronos, @SFG, @Svevlad
it’s a funny failure on their part anyway. We Slavs are unoffendable, bar blatantly calling for genocide. Anything else is treated simply as bantz
I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon
They put sugar in everything over here, including bread.
I just read that for the first time last week and it felt very timely for a book written by a dead guy in a Slavic country.
This poor, tortured girl needs an intervention. Just because her pain is not emanating from where she thinks it is, it doesn’t mean it isn’t real.
He was Rusyn. The Carpathians are where the East and West Slavic nations collide. Don’t you dare tell them they are the same people, no matter what the DNA might say.
No more football, etc.
I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.Replies: @Ganderson, @Reg Cæsar
And, sort of topically, they were Minnesotans.
Really?
So let’s actually think about that rather than simply regurgitating the utter stupidities of VDARE.
Quakers, Unitarians, and Universalists were all planted here from dear old England by 1790. I assert that per capita they did as much for nascent Leftism in the US as did the Jews later. In fact, without the WASP born and bred heretical groups, Jews never could have hoped to hit the ground running when they began to arrive in large numbers.
And then there is the sordid history of Leftism produced by the church that is the direct descendants of New England Anglo-Saxon Puritans: Congregational. Have you any idea of how much ultra liberalism Congregationalists produced just in the 18th and 19th centuries?
The vast majority of Congregationalist churches formed the United Church of Christ in the 1950s. It has been the most overall Liberal church in the country since then.
Jews dislike all the ethnic groups they’ve had significant interactions with. Germans, Slavs, White Americans, Palestinians/Arabs...while today’s Jews in the professional/managerial class on up view blacks as useful stormtroopers against Whites, Jews who dealt on a day-to-day basis with blacks strongly disliked them. Though to be fair, blacks have that effect on most everyone. Is it fear turning to hate? Is it simply the inter group friction caused by different personality traits in different populations causing friction?
Jews disliked WASPs (while coveting the women) because Jews were trying to displace WASPs, and in many ways, the two ethnics are opposites, at least in their stereotypical ideal incarnations. That doesn’t seem to be the cause of Jewish hatred for Slavs. Is it? It’s hard to exploit people and think highly of them at the same time. So that’s part of it. Maybe it was fear of the indebted and tax-farmed peasantry rising up. Or perhaps fear that the nobility would mount strong Westernizing campaigns, and uplifted peasantry would compete for the niches Jews occupied, as was mentioned in an earlier thread.
Jack D, why do you have such a negative view of Slavs?Replies: @Ganderson, @Jack D
I worked in New York City for the better part of 10 years. Got to know many Jews, most of whom loved blacks in the abstract and disliked blacks in the particular.
Technically, you are right. Just, it seems that, etymologically, self-referential word “slovo” (letter, word,..) is the root for all Slavophone native speakers (you have both /a/ & /o/ options: sla- & slo-).
So, “Slavs” are those who speak or those whose words can be understood. For all Slavic speakers, Germans, their closest “other” neighbors, were N(i)emci, i.e. those who are “mute”, people whose language is incomprehensible.
Jews dislike all the ethnic groups they’ve had significant interactions with. Germans, Slavs, White Americans, Palestinians/Arabs...while today’s Jews in the professional/managerial class on up view blacks as useful stormtroopers against Whites, Jews who dealt on a day-to-day basis with blacks strongly disliked them. Though to be fair, blacks have that effect on most everyone. Is it fear turning to hate? Is it simply the inter group friction caused by different personality traits in different populations causing friction?
Jews disliked WASPs (while coveting the women) because Jews were trying to displace WASPs, and in many ways, the two ethnics are opposites, at least in their stereotypical ideal incarnations. That doesn’t seem to be the cause of Jewish hatred for Slavs. Is it? It’s hard to exploit people and think highly of them at the same time. So that’s part of it. Maybe it was fear of the indebted and tax-farmed peasantry rising up. Or perhaps fear that the nobility would mount strong Westernizing campaigns, and uplifted peasantry would compete for the niches Jews occupied, as was mentioned in an earlier thread.
Jack D, why do you have such a negative view of Slavs?Replies: @Ganderson, @Jack D
The question is why to Slavs have such negative views of Jews?
The reality is that it wasn’t all negative, in either direction. What you had going on was a love/hate thing, not unlike the relationship between blacks and whites in America. My parents had Polish friends their entire lives. In the war, there were Polish people who hid Jews at great risk to their lives and others who would rat them out to the Germans for a sack of sugar.
OTOH, in Bulgaria, less than 2% of the population was Jewish and Jews were generally artisans.Replies: @Jack D
It sounds like a non-sequitur until you remember the people who dictate and limit culture in the US historically overseeing, enslaving, and genociding Eastern Europeans.
Thanks for the malicious fantasy. Always an education.
So let's actually think about that rather than simply regurgitating the utter stupidities of VDARE.
Quakers, Unitarians, and Universalists were all planted here from dear old England by 1790. I assert that per capita they did as much for nascent Leftism in the US as did the Jews later. In fact, without the WASP born and bred heretical groups, Jews never could have hoped to hit the ground running when they began to arrive in large numbers.
And then there is the sordid history of Leftism produced by the church that is the direct descendants of New England Anglo-Saxon Puritans: Congregational. Have you any idea of how much ultra liberalism Congregationalists produced just in the 18th and 19th centuries?
The vast majority of Congregationalist churches formed the United Church of Christ in the 1950s. It has been the most overall Liberal church in the country since then.Replies: @Art Deco
This is insanity squared. The number of people even nominally associated with some body of Congregationalists, Unitarians, or Quakers in this country sums to fewer than two million and none of these bodies have ever been consequential outside of New England and Pennsylvania.
As for your small numbers notion -- have Jews ever amounted to more than 2.5% of the US population? Have Jews done damage from the Left to the US that makes it seem as if the nation is maybe 40, even 50, % Jewish?Replies: @Art Deco
I just finished it (for the first time) last week. I had been hearing people saying exactly what you say about it for the past few years–from Jordan Peterson to the late Justin Raimondo over at AntiWar.com. Y’all are right.
If I recall correctly, his 10 authors from 1000 to 2000 were: Thomas Aquinas, Dante, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Voltaire, Gibbon, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Proust and Joyce.Replies: @JimDandy
2020 is an excellent time to be paying attention to this book.
Yeah, like big-shouldered, scowling bug-eyed Michelle Obama.
The reality is that it wasn't all negative, in either direction. What you had going on was a love/hate thing, not unlike the relationship between blacks and whites in America. My parents had Polish friends their entire lives. In the war, there were Polish people who hid Jews at great risk to their lives and others who would rat them out to the Germans for a sack of sugar.Replies: @Art Deco
Jews were populous enough to be obtrusive in Eastern Europe and there was a considerable period of time when you had a great deal of occupational segmentation on ethnic and confessional lines. The extreme case was in interwar Poland, wherein 10% of the population was Jewish and most merchants, artisans, and professionals were Jewish or German. In Hungary a century ago, north of 40% of those who passed state baccalaureate examinations were Jews. In Roumania, Jews were about 5% of the population. What was salient there was that Roumanian boyars by the early 20th century had commonly given up active management of their holdings and subcontracted that to a class of entrepreneurs that you see confusingly referred to as ‘tenant farmers’. The people who operated these agricultural trusts were commonly Jews and the most common Jewish-gentile relation was between the Roumanian peasant and the Jewish tenant. Roumanian peasants at the time had their own holdings (in old-school open fields), but also had contractual obligations to provide labor on domenical holdings to which the boyars had the allodial rights and the ‘tenant’s actually operated. There was considerable antagonism incorporated into these relationships. Interestingly, though, the intensely anti-semitic parties in Roumania between the wars were not agrarian parties and didn’t specifically recruit peasants.
OTOH, in Bulgaria, less than 2% of the population was Jewish and Jews were generally artisans.
Their language isn’t at all Slavic, it’s Latin based, and they have the only historical, traditional, Orthodox liturgy in a Latin based language.
When she said “Partial to Slavs” she meant that President Trump admires beautiful women. And Slavic women are beautiful. Many of them are blond, and have a great figure. Bear in mind that according to the tenets of feminism, there is no such thing as female beauty. Stamping out beauty is necessary to create perfect equality. After all, we can’t have a bunch of beautiful women running around; what would the mousy Jewish girls, and the the Hippopotamus black girls do? They would be oppressed by unfair male standards of beauty! If you look at the statue of the deformed woman in London, you will understand that beauty is just an artificial social construct. It doesn’t exist.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/559924166150912563/
How much of this “truly horrifying pedophilia scandal” is real and how much is a smallish number of homosexual bad-boy priests being blown out of all proportion by the same media who tell us that white against black crime is the problem?
The movement to have all whites all agree to drop all their different ethnic cultures for some non-Elite form of WASP – you have no choice but to be white people as understood by WASPs – is exactly what the Elites of the Anglo-Zionist Empire desire. And they are not ignorant, nor are they stupid. When it comes to their insatiable desires to amass more power, they are as cunning as Satan’s best student.
Paul Gottfried is as good as its gets for Jews in recent academia. Even he is eaten up with anti-Slavic and pro-Germanic biases and bigotries (remember, Angles and Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Dutch, and Danes are linguistically and culturally Germanic: WASP is a Germanic culture). Gottfried asserts that the reason – perhaps almost the only reason – that so many Jews coming to the US starting in the 1870s were radical and criminal is that they came from the Russian Empire, or parts of Poland ruled by Austrians or Berliners. His idea is that those bad Jews were bad because of Slavic culture. Yet, the ‘literary’ language of 100% of them would have been Germanic (either Yiddish or standard German), and the primary daily language of nearly 100% of them would have Germanic (Yiddish).
The Polish and Russian Jews were culturally and linguistically Germanic by choice. Did those Jews have low IQs? Did they get tricked into choosing Germanic?
And how and why dd Jews switch from Continental Germanic to WASP Germanic?
Are Jews both high IQ and very cunning and focused on advancing themselves at the expense of all others? If so, then Jewish choice of Germanic languages and cultures, as well as Jewish hatred of things Slavic, should tell you almost all you need to know about which European cultures are a way out of this horror story that is the Anglo-Zionist Empire.
Pulaski, Kosciuszko, etc.Replies: @Mike Zwick
And Mike Ditka, Mike Krzyzewski, Carl Yastrzemski etc..
That you are ignorant of what these groups have done means only that you are ignorant. I suggest you start your education by learning the roles of these groups in Abolitionism, in founding and administering the NEA (which began as purely anti-Catholic- that was the reason for it), in devising and administering Reconstruction, in founding and administering social welfare groups and agencies that were necessary for the spreading of every manner of Big Government Liberalism.
As for your small numbers notion — have Jews ever amounted to more than 2.5% of the US population? Have Jews done damage from the Left to the US that makes it seem as if the nation is maybe 40, even 50, % Jewish?
You mean I haven't imbibed your fantasies.
In The Crown Churchill has the most stereotypically upper class British manner, although he has some close competition form Tommy Lascelles and Lord Mountbatten, not from any of the Royals other than Mountbatten, IMHO. Others, including at least one peer, Lord Altringham, are like Ducky Mallard’s British buddies (in London, he’s the only Scot) in an episode of NCIS where he goes back home to meet a frenemy who stole (and married) his girl, back in the day. They have very mild accents, they could almost be Americans, Northeasterners, of course. Ducky’s frenemy is the only one I remember who has a mildly posh manner.
Also in the Crown, McMillan seems to me to be almost like a certain type of New Englander, maybe exemplified by Silent Cal Coolidge (who was one of the characters in For Greater Glory.)
Hmmmm....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-johnson-slams-protest-thuggery-after-cops-hurt-churchill-statue-defaced/
UK’s Johnson slams protest ‘thuggery’ after cops hurt, Churchill statue defaced
https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2020/06/000_1T13AV-e1591612936701-640x400.jpg
Will they publish my new Op Ed?
The fake news new york times is partial to jews. Here’s why that’s a problem:
Happen to agree.
They don’t have many present adherents, but historically they were influential in shaping WASP culture. Four US presidents, both Presidents Adams, Fillmore and Taft, were Unitarians (some had traditional Christian tendencies while Jefferson and some other congregants in traditional churches had deist tendencies similar to the Unitarians.) Hoover and Nixon were Quakers.
Hoover and Nixon grew up in a Friends congregation. Nixon's private writings suggest his actual religious views were the sparest sort of liberal protestantism tending to deism, and, of course, he enlisted in the Navy in 1942. Now look at the revealed preferences of these two men. Hoover's private home was this 5,000 sq foot International Style mess:
https://www.nps.gov/places/lou-henry-and-herbert-hoover-house.htm
The Nixons owned two homes which had 17,000 sq feet between them. There's plain living for you.
I have no clue what you mean by 'WASP culture'. The denominations in question were important in New England and Pennsylvania, not anywhere else. And no, I don't think our interlocutor is going to show his work in substantiating the claim that our contemporary disorders are attributable to the culture of early 19th century protestant confessions.
Churchill?
Hmmmm….
https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-johnson-slams-protest-thuggery-after-cops-hurt-churchill-statue-defaced/
UK’s Johnson slams protest ‘thuggery’ after cops hurt, Churchill statue defaced
In his book The Old World in the New written in 1920, E.A. Ross didn’t have too many good things to say about the Slavs. They were generally characterized as poverty stricken stupid sloppy drunken brutes and wife beaters. Many went to the South to become farmers, others worked in the mines. Ross also said they were ugly with sloping short foreheads as opposed to the tall forehead good looking Anglos, Nordics and Germans(which he called “Alpines”).
Gotta love the good old days when you could publish a tell-it-like-it-is book like that and still be a professor of political science at Stanford. It was what kept America sane, when we were all allowed to tell the truth. But Ross forewarned us in the same book that everyone was already afraid to offend the Jews even then as they were well organized and controlled the media. He also said the Jews were over sensitive, unscrupulous, pleasure seeking, and ugly.
As for your small numbers notion -- have Jews ever amounted to more than 2.5% of the US population? Have Jews done damage from the Left to the US that makes it seem as if the nation is maybe 40, even 50, % Jewish?Replies: @Art Deco
That you are ignorant of what these groups have done means only that you are ignorant.
You mean I haven’t imbibed your fantasies.
It’s very real.
Demons is doubtlessly one of 3-5 greatest novels ever written. John Updike compiled the list of 10 greatest works of Western literature in the past millennium. Demons was his Dostoevsky choice.
If I recall correctly, his 10 authors from 1000 to 2000 were: Thomas Aquinas, Dante, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Voltaire, Gibbon, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Proust and Joyce.
By Paul Blumenthal
@Huffpo
You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.
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Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox
To wit, the president of Croatia.
Trump’s sharp eye for female beauty is yet another factor driving the NYT ilk crazy.
OTOH, in Bulgaria, less than 2% of the population was Jewish and Jews were generally artisans.Replies: @Jack D
The most intense anti-Semitism comes from upwardly mobile native groups who wish to REPLACE the Jews in their middle man minority/professional role but can’t successfully compete with them in the open market. The folks at the bottom of the heap are generally happy with their Jewish intermediaries or at least realize that whoever replaces them, even if they are of the same ethnicity as they are, is not going to treat them any better.
You saw this in the US with, for example, the Ocean Hill–Brownsville school brouhaha where the black school board wanted to get rid of the Jewish teachers so that they could replace them with their buddies. I doubt that the black school kids would really have been well served by having their Jewish teachers replaced by less competent blacks, but the black teachers given sinecures would surely have enjoyed it.
I know lots of Slavs here around Sacramento, and I must say they conform to every conceivable stereotype, both good and bad. Much of Ukraine and Belarus seem to live in the burbs here. They are all Trump voters (if they’re citizens).
One thing that really endears me to Melania Trump is that she really does come across as cold and “foreign”, but if you care to notice, once you see her interacting with people, children in particular, there is such a straightforward sweetness and softness and authentic sense of duty about her.
Perhaps it endears her to you, but I doubt it endears you to her. In all likelihood she doesn’t know anything about you. (How did I Do, Reg?)
Perhaps it endears her to you, but I doubt it endears you to her. In all likelihood she doesn't know anything about you. (How did I Do, Reg?)Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
But Melania and I are besties!
A couple of Slavs just got in trouble. Serbian soccer player Aleksandar Katai was released from the Los Angeles Galaxy last Friday following a day of indignant protests by fans outside Dignity Health Sports Park. His wife Tea Katai made Instagram posts comparing police-brutality protestors to cattle, called for violent action against them (“shoot the s***s”), and captioned an image of a supposed looter carrying off a pair of sneakers with “Black Nikes Matter.” Here’s a picture of them:
Recent Slavic immigrants from Eastern Europe are the most anti-left. They escaped communism, don’t need to go right back into it.
I'm guessing the Polish/Czech/Hungarian jetsetter with Ivy degrees who reads the NYT thinks she's either (a) referring to Putin and Russia, in which case no problem, because a lot of these other countries resent Russia for pretty sound historical reasons or (b) one of those nasty provincial people back home who voted for Kaczynski, Orban, etc., not her, a nice person who reads the NYT and thinks Soros is a good guy. (If she is Russian, file under (b).)
Slavic-Americans of other persuasions would be less likely to read the NYT.
Or she's got parentheses, in which case she chuckles at the dig at those Cossacks she remembers from a story handed down by great-Grandma or Fiddler on the Roof.Replies: @John Derbyshire
Hungarians are not Slavs.
That’s one reason why the Polish and the Hungarians have been
so close. Their common destiny is to closely guard the territory
called Central Europe.
https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/podhoretz-no-jewish-russophile.jpgReplies: @Jack D
Apparently when Bernie Sanders went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, being a Jewish Russophile was NOT noxious. I guess it really depends on which Russians you love. Since the downfall of Communism, the Left and the Right have completely swapped their positions on love of Russia. But everyone in America today seems to have the attention span of a flea and no sense of irony.
Truthfully the honeymoon between Jews and Russians (even Russian Communists) was relatively brief, starting with the Revolution and ending with the birth of Israel. Communism was supposed to be internationalist but in truth Soviet Communism was jealously nationalist (a circle that they never really squared) so there was no room for divided loyalty. But it took a while for the Jewish Fellow Travelers in the West to get the message that the love affair back home was over and they continued to love Russia even after Russia no longer loved them back.
Has anyone ever done a study of the class roots of Russian intellectuals, generals, etc. based on common Serf surnames and the like? I know that in the UK, people with Norman surnames are still socially prominent almost 1,000 years after the Norman Conquest. The Revolution was highly disruptive but I would bet that did not fully erase social differences.
Anatoly Karlin did an analysis of Soviet scientist surnames by ethnicity, but I don’t think he did one by class. You could ask him.
I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon
But it was not always so. In my youth during the ’50s & ’60s, most American women were slender and well-groomed, and virtually none of them engaged in any organized sports.
That, and high-fructose corn syrup, introduced in the 1970s, and especially non-caloric artificial sweeteners like Aspartame, approved in 1974, which reduce the satiety signal, among other bad effects on the body’s microbiome leading to inflammation, and weight gain, along with even more serious health outcomes like cancer, brain tumors, cardiovascular disease, seizures, strokes, dementia, Alzheimer’s disease, mood disorders, and kidney function decline.
With all that, weight gain, increased appetite, and obesity might seem like relatively minor problems, if you can stand fat chicks.
Aspartame: Decades of Science Point to Serious Health Risks
A thin American girl will be more voluptuous/curvy than a thin Euro girl.
When husband and wife are both New York writers, there’s probably subtle but intense in-house pressure to out-woke each other
Art, your big blind spot is culture and those groups have been (and still are) at the forefront of American culture from the very beginning.
Both. Vicious cycle. Anti-Papist allergic reaction to Catholic communities being more anti-fragile than Cool Mom Protestants. Protestants infected Catholics like HIV-Poz infect other gays, then things took their course.
Clearly it’s time they learned!
No more football, etc.
I had forgotten how good the Andrews Sisters were. Thanks.Replies: @Ganderson, @Reg Cæsar
They were seen as a joke at the time, as was Sammy Kaye. The Osmonds of the ’40s.
The Gray Hag has been featuring some profound thinkers lately .Replies: @Buck Ransom, @Forbes
“Partial to Slavs.”
Slavs with names like Kushner, Mnuchin and Netanyahu.
If I recall correctly, his 10 authors from 1000 to 2000 were: Thomas Aquinas, Dante, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Voltaire, Gibbon, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Proust and Joyce.Replies: @JimDandy
ALT-RIGHT CHAMPIONING POORLY-WRITTEN RUSSIAN NOVEL
By Paul Blumenthal
@Huffpo
You’ve probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don’t feel too bad, there’s a reason the book is so obscure–it’s a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky’s petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800’s. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar’s standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as “an embarrassing mess” that “to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky’s legacy” it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.
***
Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.
https://celestialtimepiece.com/2015/01/28/tragic-rites-in-dostoyevskys-the-possessed/
I agree with that, generally speaking. I can remember a time, however, when – right here in the US – a Slavic surname implied a lack of sophistication or even a lack of beauty for a woman. I never thought that perception was even remotely accurate, but some folks believed that back when I was a kid.
BTW, on the subject of Melania’s speaking voice, she’s apparently fluent in five languages – I believe the same five languages that Slavoj Zizek can speak. It isn’t just the women of Slovenia who are beautiful. The country itself is quite spectacular, based on the pictures I’ve seen.
That’s another interesting difference. American women are way more likely to play sports or do activities like cross fit, strength training, or pilates. So even think American girls have a different type of body shape.
A thin American girl will be more voluptuous/curvy than a thin Euro girl.
Was there EVER an immigrant group that met Ross’s (and your) beauty standards as compared to Anglos? You can say a lot about the Slavs and their relationship with alcohol but as far as beauty goes, they are not a bad looking group (at least the young females). Immigrants tend to be working class and I think the average working class Slav is a more handsome specimen than the average working class Brit and tends to have more teeth. In 1900 this would have been even more true – working class Brits were stunted by poor diet.
And beauty isn’t everything. The “beautiful” Germans certainly did not act beautifully in the 20th century.
But anyway I want to thank you for standing up for poor Slavs (probably mostly Poles and Ukrainians) from a century ago; your comment is correct.
They became pop stars.
It’s their prerogative.
Somebody, maybe the late Charles Portis of True Grit fame, wrote a semi-comic semi-fictionalized essay in Harper’s in the 1980s about the stereotypical European city that I think was based on Ljubljana, Slovenia that was both satirical and made me want to move there. Whenever I see a feature during the Winter Olympics on a Slovenian lady skier, Slovenia looks wonderful.
By Paul Blumenthal
@Huffpo
You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.
***
Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox
Updike is practically a neo-Nazi these days, right?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/feb/17/pushing-back-why-its-time-for-women-to-rewrite-the-story
Imagine if a Slavic writer had accused the President of being “partial to Jews.” They would be fired and then vilified by the entire Jewish controlled media.
A Slav in the media got forced out this week, that editor in Philadelphia. Clearly, Slavic Privilege in the media is keeping the People of Color down.
The Gray Hag has been featuring some profound thinkers lately .Replies: @Buck Ransom, @Forbes
I’m still stuck at “Nosferatu.”
Here’s 1979 film version writer/director Werner Herzog, from wiki…
I’m not certain the effect Jennifer Senior was going for, but I doubt her obscure reference does it.
USA blacks, with occasional lapses, keep beating the Russians/Soviets in basketball at the Olympics.
Rather than a cosmetic surgeon, more likely the photographer knew to pose her straight on the nose, with the head tilting down in order to diminish her proboscis.
“just a penis with a thesaurus” and one of the “Great Male Narcissists”
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/feb/17/pushing-back-why-its-time-for-women-to-rewrite-the-story
Slavs Rule! Partly because I am part Slavic myself. But ask yourself this: will we have to change the word because it’s based on “slave”?
By Paul Blumenthal
@Huffpo
You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.
***
Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox
Jokes aside, this is what Joyce Carol Oates wrote about this novel:
https://celestialtimepiece.com/2015/01/28/tragic-rites-in-dostoyevskys-the-possessed/
Corrected for usage, with imprecise language crossed out, and additions in bold:
Unfortunately, the one area in which we would be well-served by no racial quotas, given that the consequences are literally life-long, for both the recipients of the service, as well as for future potential crime victims, is one where racial quotas are enforced with the greatest zeal.
I’m not sure “Anon” necessarily agrees with Ross’s assessments so much as with the values of a society that allowed him to publish them and still be seriously regarded.
But anyway I want to thank you for standing up for poor Slavs (probably mostly Poles and Ukrainians) from a century ago; your comment is correct.
Why leave to move to this crap hole country?
Germanics are scientific (and obsessed with weapons).
Romance people (Italians, French, Spanish, ...) are artistic.
Slavs are spiritual.
God seems to like Slavs - there are 240 million Slavs, and only 120 million
Germanics (incl. 20 million Scandinavians). That’s why Hitler never had
a chance. Let’s not forget, “The meek shall inherit the earth,” and the Slavs,
unlike the Germanics, were never known for their arrogance.
The Slavs see the Celts (Irish, Scotch, Welsh) and the Portuguese
as their natural allies. In fact, to the Polish or Russian ear Portuguese
sounds vaguely Slavonic. There is a growing amount of intermarriage
between the Polish and the Iberians. Huge numbers of Spanish
and Portuguese students spend a year or two in Poland under the
Erasmus student exchange program. The other day I saw a comment
under a Polish pop song (sung by Sanah, famous 21-year-old Polish
vocalist) on YouTube, made by a young Portuguese fellow, “Oh, how
I crave to be Polish, but I’m not.” Polish music is staging a resurgence.
Polish vocalists, Roxie Wegiel (13 years old) and Viki Gabor (12 years old)
won the Junior Eurovision song contests two years in a row. Polish
rappers like Mata and Taco Hemingway get 200-300 million views on
YouTube, which is Dua Lipa territory.Replies: @Ancient Briton
Does Anybody have anything nice to say about the English? [No Irish NeedApply]
I didn’t want to make a redundant comment but having been to Russia and seen such a high percentage of drop-dead gorgeous women in Moscow, I suspect that a lot of this comes from Senior being shortchanged in the looks department.
Well it is true that I saw a far higher percentage of young Russian women that you would call hot compared to the percentage of Russian men you would call handsome. In one Russian bar the hostess (who spoke English) even admitted that the women are stunning the men not so much.
Eisehower’s mother started out as an anabaptist and ended up in the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He, on the other hand, spent 40 years in the military. There’s some influence.
Hoover and Nixon grew up in a Friends congregation. Nixon’s private writings suggest his actual religious views were the sparest sort of liberal protestantism tending to deism, and, of course, he enlisted in the Navy in 1942. Now look at the revealed preferences of these two men. Hoover’s private home was this 5,000 sq foot International Style mess:
https://www.nps.gov/places/lou-henry-and-herbert-hoover-house.htm
The Nixons owned two homes which had 17,000 sq feet between them. There’s plain living for you.
I have no clue what you mean by ‘WASP culture’. The denominations in question were important in New England and Pennsylvania, not anywhere else. And no, I don’t think our interlocutor is going to show his work in substantiating the claim that our contemporary disorders are attributable to the culture of early 19th century protestant confessions.
Watch the women’s events at international track and field meetings. The Slavic women are not only beautiful but they kick some serious ass athletically. Makes one forget about all of the hatred which we have been taught.
Speaking of Nosferatu, has anybody seen him and Rod Rosenstein together?
No, I can't recall ever seeing Rod Rosenstein and Peter Strzok together. Why do you ask?
https://i.imgflip.com/2e2u1b.gif
I am so glad I know now why my wildly politically incorrect views on everything have had zero impact on my bottom line. President Trump is protecting me. Only Unity Save the Serbs.
“Can’t successfully compete” with Jews is a notion that is entirely dependent on a relative comparison between the protections and hostilities allowed for each competing group.
Jews tend to afforded the most protections and available hostile measures, and so they do not very often compete on a playing field that is anything but vertical in their favor.
Actually, Jews are expected by their detractors to tolerate artillery barrages on border towns, among other things.
I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon
High fructose corn syrup in America
Jews have never gotten over the Cossack uprisings in the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth.
https://static.vesti.rs/slike-4/TEA-KATAI-EKSKLUZIVNO-ZA-KURIR-Nisam-rasista-Huligani-idu-gradom-i-lome-SMUCILO-MI-SE-DA-GLEDAM-NASILJE.jpg
Recent Slavic immigrants from Eastern Europe are the most anti-left. They escaped communism, don't need to go right back into it.Replies: @Denis
They didn’t “escape from communism”, the guy started playing in American teams a few years ago, and they are not particularly “anti-left”. The woman just made some statements on the internet that, to her, seemed like innocuous commentary. This is what people do in most of the world, they speak freely, without policing themselves. She was under the mistaken impression that that was permissible in the west; it is not.
There is an obvious cosmetic surgery scar on the right side of her nose. And her teeth have been capped.
Speaking of Nosferatu, has anybody seen him and Rod Rosenstein together?
No, I can’t recall ever seeing Rod Rosenstein and Peter Strzok together. Why do you ask?
I read Demons earlier this year, also for the first time.
2020 is an excellent time to be paying attention to this book.
Partial to Slavs: Eastern Europeans like his wife? Not partial to others tribes like Brits, Germanic, or Southern Europeans? Why?
Or Slavs as the root in the name "slave"? Trump seems to be partial to ex-slaves and allows them to riot, regurgitate insane theories about repression of Blacks, which originate from White leftists.
And, of course, Trump would never dare to be "racist", aka race realist, though he sometimes disobeys the #PCGagOrder (never speak negatively of 'minorities' as not to cause 'prejudice')Replies: @Uncle Sam
The word Slav has nothing to do with slaves or slavery. It originates from the Slavic word “slava” which means, depending on the Slavic language in question , glory, fame, greatness, blessed, anointed or a national or religious festival or holiday. It has no negative connotations or implications.
Know your enemy.
Politicians giving out hats for their supporters to wear is bad. Cause, you know, Hitler.
That’s a translation.
By Paul Blumenthal
@Huffpo
You've probably heard of Fyodor Dostoyevsky's greatest novels, Crime & Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, but how about Demons? No? Don't feel too bad, there's a reason the book is so obscure--it's a disaster. This cartoonish polemic was Dostoyevsky's petty attempt at settling old scores with literary rivals by lampooning them and the burgeoning Russian progressive movement of the late 1800's. Once an unabashed social justice warrior himself, the author ended up an ultra conservative reactionary after being lined up for what would turn out to be a fake firing squad and a stint in the gulag succeeded in scaring him straight (by the Czar's standards, anyway.) Though literary critics have unanimously dismissed Demons as "an embarrassing mess" that "to this day still threatens to torpedo Dostoevsky's legacy" it has experienced a recent revival in white nationalist and Neo-Nazi circles.
***
Just kidding. Fake news. I wrote that, in anticipation of what will actually be written if the book keeps getting praised by the wrong people.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @nebulafox
Demons is a seriously underrated book, and a depressingly relevant one.
I think part of the reason for its lack of popularity in the West is because its the most political of Dostoevsky’s works, and his ideology is hard to adopt yourself if you aren’t Russian. Doesn’t mean it isn’t worth reading at all, but it does require a bit of background knowledge about what Dostoevsky and men like him actually believed to get the most out of it. C&P and the Brothers are easier to just dive into without any.
The translation I read was excellent, but the idiots omitted the censored chapter and put it in the footnotes! So I didn't read it until the very end. It might be the best/most important chapter in the book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)#Censored_chapter
I have copied below YetAnotherAnon’s response to this comment of yours that appears further down in the thread, as his echoes my own. Below his quoted comment, please find additional questions and material of my own.
To SFG and anyone else who shares the view he expressed, I would ask the following questions.
On what basis do you feel confident making such a summary condemnation? How much do you actually know about the matter-in-question? How much time and effort have you invested in informing yourself of what the other side—
Have you considered whether the use of the term pedophilia in reporting on the scandal, as opposed to pederasty, may reflect a deliberate effort to deceive? An effort to deflect attention from any specifically homosexual aspect of the scandal? Of the accusers, how many were prepubescent children– girls and boys, respectively? How many post-pubescent adolescent males?
Related:
This comment from this past January 15th, in which I cited and linked-to this comment by HA from August 2018, and also linked-to the article Homosexuality and the Church Crisis (Brian Clowes, 2010)
Did the word “Slav” come from the word “slave,” or did the word “slave” come from the word “Slav”?
Eastern European women are notably better looking than their Western counterparts, especially Ukrainian and Russian women. Back in the days when there was a relationship between marriage and childbearing, if 30% of the men were slaughtered in consecutive generations the few survivors had their pick of the best looking women.
It’s amazing what 100 years of selective breeding can do.
Jews tend to afforded the most protections and available hostile measures,
Actually, Jews are expected by their detractors to tolerate artillery barrages on border towns, among other things.
Her teeth aren’t toilet-bowl white. They haven’t been capped. Cigarette smoking is uncommon among the young nowadays, so they don’t have stained teeth. Among people of a certain vintage, you also see teeth that are discolored because they were given anti-biotics at the wrong time in their youth. You don’t see that among the young, either. Orthodontics has been the mode among common-and-garden bourgeois for 50 years and among wage earners for about 30 years. There is no cosmetic surgery scar outside of your imagination.
She’s not the only one who’s had a little work done.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/667869819712435641/
This is really to commenter Jack D: care to respond to this? You’re always quick to respond to me, so I thought you might want to respond to the “painfully Jewish” bit.
I wonder why. Could it be the hormones in the food?Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @SFG, @Sparkon, @Flip, @Anon
They walk instead of driving. Less junk food.
Jews are perfectly at home in the Anglosphere and among WASP Elites. And Jews tend to HATE Russia and Russians, and have unrelenting contempt for other Slavs.
There is meaning there for those able to see and hear.Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Bill Jones
“Is Jennifer Senior a Jew?”
Do you have to ask?
That question replaces my initial one “Is the Pope Catholic?” because their is currently doubt as to the Papacy.
The depiction of the progressives–particularly that meeting where they can’t even really decide whether or not it’s a meeting–requires no research to grasp. But you’re right, it’s his most political novel–and his darkest. And it’s long. It took me awhile to really get into it, I must admit. All the interpersonal-relationships drama, and so on. But, ultimately, it blew me away. It really starts firing on all cylinders from that meeting (which is hilarious) on.
The translation I read was excellent, but the idiots omitted the censored chapter and put it in the footnotes! So I didn’t read it until the very end. It might be the best/most important chapter in the book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)#Censored_chapter
Trump married a Jew?Replies: @black sea, @sayless
OT, kaganovitch, yes, Orthodox Jewish/Dominican, I live in Washington Heights.
Genetically, Hungarians are heavily slavicized Magyars.
That’s one reason why the Polish and the Hungarians have been
so close. Their common destiny is to closely guard the territory
called Central Europe.