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From the NYT Magazine:

The Great Democratic Crack-Up of 2016

They may have a strong presidential candidate, but at every other level, the party’s politicians and activists are fighting to survive — and fighting with one another.

By ROBERT DRAPER MAY 12, 2015

Maryland might seem a peculiar venue for a blood feud over the future of the Democratic Party. It is the second-bluest state in the United States, after Massachusetts, according to Gallup; its registered Democrats, more than 30 percent of whom are black, outnumber registered Republicans two to one. Maryland is home to an immense federal work force and is one of the states most economically dependent on the federal government. Its gun-control laws are among the strictest in the nation. In 2012, Maryland and Maine became the first states to ratify same-sex marriage by popular vote. Barack Obama’s statewide margin of victory was roughly 26 points in 2008 and 2012, the fifth highest in the United States. The last time the G.O.P. won control of the Maryland State Legislature was in 1897. So reliable is its party affiliation that, as a Democratic senator’s chief of staff puts it, “If Maryland ever becomes a jeopardy state, then the whole thing is gone.”

This past March, when Barbara Mikulski, the longest-serving woman in United States Senate history, unexpectedly announced that she would not be seeking a sixth term in 2016, national progressive groups quickly threw their weight behind their dream candidate: Donna Edwards. A pugnacious former community organizer, Edwards is a four-term African-American congresswoman from Prince George’s County, one of the most affluent majority-black counties in the United States.

But she wasn’t the favorite of establishment Democrats. For them, the obvious choice to replace Mikulski was the seven-term congressman Chris Van Hollen, who is considered a progressive like Edwards, but has a reputation for coolheaded practicality and for working well with Republicans. Of the bills sponsored by Van Hollen in the previous session of Congress, 37 percent included at least one Republican co-sponsor. For Edwards, the corresponding figure was 0 percent. Where she is viewed as a warrior for liberal causes, he is seen as a conciliator, one whose let’s-sit-down-and-talk-this-over geniality led to his tenure as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee from 2007 to 2011 and, thereafter, to his designation as the House Democrats’ point man on bipartisan budget discussions. As their lead negotiator, Van Hollen has immersed himself in the sort of legislative sausage-making that typically entails compromise, like his expressed willingness, in 2012, to consider restructuring Social Security as part of an overall deficit-reduction agreement. To progressives, this was nothing less than apostasy.

Also, Chris Van Hollen, who represents rich Montgomery County in Congress, happens to be just about the whitest man in America, Deep State Division. Van Hollen’s father was an aide to Secretary of State Dean Acheson and then American ambassador to Sri Lanka. His mother was the top Afghan analyst for the State Department. Van Hollen’s like the Matt Damon character in The Good Shepherd who gets questioned by mobster Joe Pesci over what his Old American people own: “The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.”

My guess would be that the Democrats benefit from still having as a public face of the party some number of this kind of old-fashioned hereditary princeling with direct family ties to the Truman Administration’s waging of the Cold War. Just as the Republicans celebrate any GOP politician they can find who is from somewhat outside the Core (e.g., Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Mr. Columba Bush, etc.), logic suggests the Democrats should conversely find it tactically prudent to look favorably upon a good-looking representative like Van Hollen of the East Coast’s ancient Dutch/WASP elite that produced the Roosevelts.

But symmetrical logic is distasteful to Democrats. Moral asymmetry is their engine. Holding together the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes by demonizing Privileged Straight White Males like Van Hollen is too much fun and to necessary to turn off just for tactical reasons.

Progressives, of course, love that Edwards is not a backslapping insider. She has vigorously advocated for many of their pet causes — minimum-wage increases, college-tuition debt relief, overturning the Supreme Court’s Citizen’s United verdict so as to regulate corporate expenditures on political activity — that they maintain are popular with the public despite having failed to pass in Congress.

They also see her as a model progressive in another sense: Edwards is not a white male. …

Shortly after Freddie Gray died after being injured while in police custody in Baltimore, Edwards told me: “I reacted to what happened from my perspective raising a young black son in an environment that’s complicated. And one of the voices that’s so important but that’s been missing are black moms who are raising their children and worrying about what’s happened to our communities.” …

Van Hollen nonetheless enters the race as the front-runner, owing to his legislative accomplishments and to his extensive fund-raising connections as the former chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. But Thomas Schaller, a University of Maryland, Baltimore County, political-science professor, says: “Any financial advantage by him will probably be evened out by the sweat equity of progressive grass-roots volunteers. So resourcewise, this is a draw. The differentiator will be policy stuff. Her people are probably going to be poring over every committee vote and every statement to see where he was siding with Wall Street. The Van Hollen people will be doing the same thing. And sure, race is always a factor” — a factor, Schaller said, that would help Edwards in black-dominated counties but hurt her in the rural stretches of western Maryland and along the Chesapeake Bay, with emerging neighborhoods of Asian and Latino voters potentially proving decisive.

As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?

 
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  1. I don’t know from Chris Van Hollen, but Edwards is impressive on foreign policy issues I’ve seen her speak about at J Street. Takes what should be a patriotic American position.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    George Soros..."patriot"...
    , @Hepp
    Leftist blacks hate Israel because they see it as another way to stick it to the white man. It doesn't make them great patriots.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Can Van Hollen afford to take an independent foreign policy stance? Or maybe Matt Damon's James Jesus Angleton character is out of date and today would have to say: "The United States of America ... we built it but we don't own it any more."
    , @Nico
    You've been reading too much "American Conservative." In their bizarro land a "conservative" is not simply opposed to the Iraq war but in general opposed to military triumph and a hard line against enemies foreign and domestic, and supports anti-racist purges and gay marriage.
    , @Brother John
    Even if that were a logical stance, it's no more remarkable than a blind pig finding a truffle once in a while.
  2. As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?

    Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks."

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    , @Lackawanna
    Blacks are irrelvant in the western half of the country. As the Asian and Hispanic shares grow while the black share stays constant, Asians and Hispanics will increase their power in the Democratic party.

    I'm not buying this idea that black bad behavior will drive other minorities to the GOP. Why hasn't it happened already? After black rioters targeted Asians in 1992, the Asian vote began a long term shift towards the Democrats.
  3. It is the second-bluest state in the United States, after Massachusetts, according to Gallup; its registered Democrats, more than 30 percent of whom are black, outnumber registered Republicans two to one.

    That’s pretty nuts. Yes, 60% (or whatever) is greater than 30%, but the implication is that the number is *just* higher than 30%. Basically, 32-33% of Marylanders are Black, so this moronic article is saying that Maryland Blacks are less likely to be Democrats than are Maryland non-Blacks.

  4. This will be a real test of the delusions holding much of the Democratic Party together. The SWPL’s who think they run the show atop a mass of ward 8 voters who don’t have any real power. While the ward 8 voters remain deluded about what would happen if they ever wrested control away from the SWPL’s. It’ll come to a head in the primary. If the white guy wins, the Dems probably keep the seat. But my hunch is that there isn’t really any room in the Dem party for white guys anymore.

  5. @ingo


    As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?
     
    Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.

    “Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Is there a difference between East/SE Asians and South Asians?

    I do recall that the Indian diaspora votes much more D than other Asians, and considers the two GOP ethnically Indian but Christian Governors, to be race traitors.
    , @syonredux

    Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.
     
    Asian American academics are working very hard to make sure that their brethren know that the White Man is the enemy, always has been and always will be.
    , @syonredux

    “Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.
     
    Of course, East Asian hate Whitey academics do contain their own internal contradictions.For example, there's an East Asian female academic of my acquaintance, quite prominent in her field, chair of a department, etc.Her work is all about the evil White Man's exploitation of POC labor: Black slaves, Chinese coolies, "blackbirding" in the Pacific, etc.Mention opium to her, and you will get a 15 minute tirade on the cruel way that British drug pushers operated in 19th century China.

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man......
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    ""Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.""

    People like the author of the popular blog "Angry Asian Man". The people that Asians should be angry against are pretty much strictly limited to white people. He links to articles shaming Asians for being against affirmative action, but any mention of a violent crime or hate crime against Asians will always leave the race of the perpetrator blank (further digging will almost always reveal it to be a NAM).

    http://blog.angryasianman.com/?m=1
    , @Benjaminl
    Razib Khan pointed out a while ago that the number of Christian Asians has been going down. Apparently Christian Asians are more likely to vote GOP, and conversely -- the same as with white people.

    This was before the recent Pew study that found fewer [nominal] Christians in America now.
    , @Ragno
    Maybe. But one knockout game is worth a thousand Slant-eyed Justice Warriors.

    It doesn't help that many of these Margaret Cho-types are Margaret Cho-types; I'm guessing Asians don't get too enthused over shrill/pugnacious homosexuals purporting to represent them. Or at least as 'enthused' as any other race or ethne would be, race-traitors and tikkun olammers notwithstanding.
  6. And guess what issue is fueling the Van Hollen – Edwards feud?

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/it-begins-democrats-hand-out-anti-semitic-flyer-at-maryland-meeting/.

    Maryland might seem a peculiar venue for a blood feud over the future of the Democratic Party. It is the second-bluest state in the United States, after Massachusetts, according to Gallup; its registered Democrats, more than 30 percent of whom are black, outnumber registered Republicans two to one. Maryland is home to an immense federal work force and is one of the states most economically dependent on the federal government. Its gun-control laws are among the strictest in the nation. In 2012, Maryland and Maine became the first states to ratify same-sex marriage by popular vote. Barack Obama’s statewide margin of victory was roughly 26 points in 2008 and 2012, the fifth highest in the United States. The last time the G.O.P. won control of the Maryland State Legislature was in 1897. So reliable is its party affiliation that, as a Democratic senator’s chief of staff puts it, “If Maryland ever becomes a jeopardy state, then the whole thing is gone.”

    Actually, it makes perfect sense that solid blue territory is where debates about the path and future of a given political party will take place. Because the Democrat nominee will win the general election, the real race is the Democrat primary. And, homeostatic equilibrium readjusts within the Democrat Party. In that, the state of Maryland is not much different from the politics of a big city — All Democrats, but with two wings: Black Democrats and non-black (usually white) Democrats. Both factions will vote Democrat on Presidential election day, but oppose each other in their urban politics.

    Likewise, where you have areas where the Republican primary is the election, there are developing schisms and feuds, most notably, TPM vs RINO.

  7. — minimum-wage increases, college-tuition debt relief, overturning the Supreme Court’s Citizen’s United verdict so as to regulate corporate expenditures on political activity

    75% of the public supports raising the minimum wage and a similar percentage are in favor of overturning “Citizen’s United”. It’s appalling when only fringe candidates dare to take positions favored by the overwhelming majority of the population.

    Our parties argue over gay marriage and Bruce Jenner, while maintaining a bipartisan consensus on financialization, free trade, mass immigration, the warfare state, NSA surveillance, and supporting Israel. What a joke of a “democracy.”

    logic suggests the Democrats should conversely find it tactically prudent to look favorably upon a good-looking representative like Van Hollen of the East Coast’s ancient Dutch/WASP elite that produced the Roosevelts.

    But symmetrical logic is distasteful to Democrats. Moral asymmetry is their engine. Holding together the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes by demonizing Privileged Straight White Males like Van Hollen is too much fun and to necessary to turn off just for tactical reasons.

    From a marketing perspective, having Van Hollen as the party face makes sense. From the perspective of living in a country in which the non-wealthy are being squeezed to the limit, it’s not unreasonable to want alternatives.

    The bashing of straight white gentile males is obviously distasteful, but I see no reason to reflexively support Van Hollen.

  8. With Mikulski out of the race at long last, could MD now be considered a toss up election next year? Especially with the events in Baltimore front and center? Perhaps a GOP law and order candidate that could possibly appeal to Asians and a few Hispanics, as well as suburban whites?
    Sort of a Mitt Romney type. Granted, its a challenge, but Romney won governorship in MA, which was also a strong blue state so perhaps anything is possible.

    • Replies: @Andrew Jackson
    Maryland did just elect a GOP governor. Granted it was "a low turnout" mid term election, but still.
    , @countenance
    No Republican has even declared for this race yet. If any do, they'll be tokens or jokes. The real race is Edwards vs Van Hollen.
  9. In a sense it’s irrelevant. Whomever the Democrats will select will continue to stab whites in the back. It’s further aggravated by the GOP who supports many anti-white policies as well. Whites are practically the only group not represented by our elected officials.

    At least Blacks, Hispanics, Arabs, Jews all get special favors and free stuff from Uncle Sam. While middle-class whites in the private sector get bent over, their pockets picked, their neighborhoods infested with 3rd worlders and their jobs sent overseas.

  10. OT, Latest push to remove Andrew Jackson and put Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Well, in the picture Tubman looks more like a man than Jackson does; in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Sometimes I think American culture these days only exists for the lulz. I mean it is completely absurd.
    , @anon
    I think they'll rename Washington, DC in my lifetime.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Good Christ Almighty! That mug!This was the broad famous for saying,"Ain't I a woman too?"
  11. @nglaer
    I don't know from Chris Van Hollen, but Edwards is impressive on foreign policy issues I've seen her speak about at J Street. Takes what should be a patriotic American position.

    George Soros…”patriot”…

  12. @Steve Sailer
    "Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks."

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    Is there a difference between East/SE Asians and South Asians?

    I do recall that the Indian diaspora votes much more D than other Asians, and considers the two GOP ethnically Indian but Christian Governors, to be race traitors.

    • Replies: @anon
    South Asians think about politics the way Jews do because they are as clannish as Jews are. East Asians are less clannish than that. They would be more likely to enter into a coalition with whites. I'm not saying that they're actually likely to do that. Just more likely than South Asians.

    Hindu castes are extremely ancient, endogamous ethno-religious groups, just like traditional Judaism. Similar setups have produced similar mentalities.
    , @Curle
    Minority voters, which would include East Indians, vote overwhelmingly Labour in the UK.
    , @Scotty G. Vito
    Contrary to Gandhi & Nehru & all that, S. Asians are far less ideologically rigid and thus, more "pragmatic" than E. Asians, who will gladly leap forward onto millenarian psycho progressive undertakings if the wind gales that way. There is a counterfactual HBD meme going around -- no doubt weabo-inspired via the yellow-fever set -- that inside every E. Asian is a WN just dying to get out. Judge this against the historical record of their native cultures; or to put it in more traditional political terminology they earn like Episcopalians (or at least Methodists) but vote like Peoples Temple communards.
  13. Emphasize affirmative action, and you’ll have an Asian revolt against the Democratic Party. It happened in the California legislature

    • Replies: @tobe


    Emphasize affirmative action, and you’ll have an Asian revolt against the Democratic Party. It happened in the California legislature
     
    For no real reason, the thought popped into my head of a federal bureaucracy made up increasingly of Asians. It might actually be worse than the many black folks working there.
    , @Kyle a
    Not if they are from Vietnam nam or Laos
  14. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    With Mikulski out of the race at long last, could MD now be considered a toss up election next year? Especially with the events in Baltimore front and center? Perhaps a GOP law and order candidate that could possibly appeal to Asians and a few Hispanics, as well as suburban whites?
    Sort of a Mitt Romney type. Granted, its a challenge, but Romney won governorship in MA, which was also a strong blue state so perhaps anything is possible.

    Maryland did just elect a GOP governor. Granted it was “a low turnout” mid term election, but still.

  15. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    With Mikulski out of the race at long last, could MD now be considered a toss up election next year? Especially with the events in Baltimore front and center? Perhaps a GOP law and order candidate that could possibly appeal to Asians and a few Hispanics, as well as suburban whites?
    Sort of a Mitt Romney type. Granted, its a challenge, but Romney won governorship in MA, which was also a strong blue state so perhaps anything is possible.

    No Republican has even declared for this race yet. If any do, they’ll be tokens or jokes. The real race is Edwards vs Van Hollen.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    The best GOP performance in an MD senate election in the past 30 years was in 2006, Michael Steele got 44%. He rode that to being RNC Chairman.

    Much like the New England states, electing R Governors is one thing, but electing R Senators that will confirm another Scalia is another. Too many liberals want the whip hand of the feds on the South, no matter the cost fiscally.
  16. Kind of at a loss for words on Citizens United.

    I know that we have had a long history of things like union involvement in politics.

    But with the mechanics of the way the modern world works with media and well advertising expertise, Citizens United seems like one of the last spades of dirt thrown on the comfortable illusion that we have a democracy and an electorate that pays attention.

    The Lincoln/Douglas debates were a long time ago. In what increasingly looks like a foreign country (I think we are well on the way to “Idiocracy”).

    • Replies: @annamaria
    Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy
    "mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy
    In short: A Plutocracy.
    , @Curle

    Citizens United seems like one of the last spades of dirt thrown on the comfortable illusion that we have a democracy and an electorate that pays attention.
     
    Odd comment. From a constitutional perspective Citizen's United is entirely in line with the founder's intentions. The idea that speech should be restrained if it might influence or that the person funding speech determines whether it should be restrained or not is pathetically stupid if one takes free speech seriously.
  17. @iSteveFan
    OT, Latest push to remove Andrew Jackson and put Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill.

    Well, in the picture Tubman looks more like a man than Jackson does; in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Sometimes I think American culture these days only exists for the lulz. I mean it is completely absurd.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Well, in the picture Tubman looks more like a man than Jackson does…
     
    Robin Williams once held up a dollar bill and announced, "Barbara Bush!" He could have done likewise with a twenty. "Bette Davis!"
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Welcome, time traveler from the past! He goes by the name Muhammad Ali, as he has since 1964.
  18. I guess one man’s “crack-up” is another’s competitive primary. Since there’s no hint or suggestion that Republicans can or will gain enough from this to win the seat. Not that it would matter. So what was the point of this article again?

  19. @nglaer
    I don't know from Chris Van Hollen, but Edwards is impressive on foreign policy issues I've seen her speak about at J Street. Takes what should be a patriotic American position.

    Leftist blacks hate Israel because they see it as another way to stick it to the white man. It doesn’t make them great patriots.

  20. tobe says:
    @Grumpy Old Man
    Emphasize affirmative action, and you'll have an Asian revolt against the Democratic Party. It happened in the California legislature

    Emphasize affirmative action, and you’ll have an Asian revolt against the Democratic Party. It happened in the California legislature

    For no real reason, the thought popped into my head of a federal bureaucracy made up increasingly of Asians. It might actually be worse than the many black folks working there.

  21. map says:

    Maybe this is the secret genius of the GOP.

    The mass influx of Third-World immigrants and massive black empowerment is a method of flushing the intelligent and capable Leftist out of the Democratic Party. Essentially marginalizing the Right’s greatest threat.

    No Leftists is going to remain in a Party that they do not control. They are not going to be an ignored and put-upon minority no matter what they may say when the cameras are rolling.

  22. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Maj. Kong
    Is there a difference between East/SE Asians and South Asians?

    I do recall that the Indian diaspora votes much more D than other Asians, and considers the two GOP ethnically Indian but Christian Governors, to be race traitors.

    South Asians think about politics the way Jews do because they are as clannish as Jews are. East Asians are less clannish than that. They would be more likely to enter into a coalition with whites. I’m not saying that they’re actually likely to do that. Just more likely than South Asians.

    Hindu castes are extremely ancient, endogamous ethno-religious groups, just like traditional Judaism. Similar setups have produced similar mentalities.

  23. The whole motive behind the Left’s endorsement of mass immigration has been the belief that mass immigration will help leftist whites defeat conservative whites. What they never seem to have considered is that before racial minorities defeat conservative whites they will first defeat leftist whites within the Democratic Party. SWPL white Democrats get tingles up their legs with they get to occasionally embrace seemingly cool, hip black pols like Barack Obama. When grim reality sets in, however, and the Democrats become the party of Carrie Meek, Cynthia McKinney, Hank Johnson, and Luis Gutierrez, they will soon become disenchanted.

    Hillary Clinton’s defeat in the 2008 primaries is a direct result of the racial policies of the Democratic Party. But rather than exhibit any self-awareness of how they’ve harmed her chances at the presidency, she appears to have doubled down on open borders.

    In more and more states, the dynamics within the Democratic Party will become a vicious cycle: guys like Chris Van Hollen won’t won the primaries, so SWPL whites will abandon the Dems, so fewer and fewer whites will bother to run as Dems.

    It may be that the best hope for racial sanity isn’t simply electing more Republican senators like Jeff Sessions, but electing more Democratic senators like Donna Edwards.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Luis Gutierrez (PR) endorsed Rahm for re-election rather than the Mexican Chuy Garcia.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-chicago-mayor-race-met-0222-20150220-story.html#page=1

    The Latin red tide has it's own internal divisions, without a strong machine the Ds will be ripping themselves apart. The question will be whether the GOP is still relevant by the time the fratricide really gets going.
    , @jack
    I agree. Go Edwards. The sooner white males realize the democrats hate them and won't vote for them, the better.
    , @Nico
    I liked your rejoinder, but I think your lumping of urban white Democrats under the "SWPL" tag is far too simplistic.

    In fact, many white Democrats are nothing more than cynical opportunists who will play any tune to get into office. Some of them are former left-wing nutters with a few of the old nuts still roasting, like Hillary Clinton. Others, especially the ones ostensibly raised Catholic (often but not always straight-through in Catholic schools!), are pure vultures. Read: the Cuomos, the Kennedys (notwithstanding Ted Kennedy's monomaniacal obsession projects in latter years, but as Fulton J. Sheen said: if you don't live as you believe, you will end up believing in what you live!), Kirsten Gillibrand or Pat Quinn. (Or nearly EVERY prominent white Democratic politician from Illinois in living memory.)

    The cynic types are indeed likely to clash with the grassroots minorities when these latter become too big a nuissance (think the Miriam Oliphant catastrophe in Broward County, Florida), but they are also aware of the delicate territory they tread on. After all, actual, authentic SWPL/hipster electors often genuinely *like* minority candidates simply *because* they are minorities, and yet the cynic types, often (and increasingly) on shaky ground with the minorities, definitely need SWPL votes to win and do not hesitate to play to this constituency, whatever their actual worldview/lifestyle.

    On the ground level the Reagan Democrats, though badly reduced, do still exist, and these are the folk who would most directly clash with minorities. But since their material means are modest and they tend to go Republican at the national level and increasingly (though not necessarily) at the local level, they are mostly held in contempt by the cynics who view them as a nuissance and the minorities and SWPLs who want them (often literally literally) dead, when of course these three groups are not busy confiscating (through crime or public policy) what little the Reagan Democrats do have.
  24. @countenance
    No Republican has even declared for this race yet. If any do, they'll be tokens or jokes. The real race is Edwards vs Van Hollen.

    The best GOP performance in an MD senate election in the past 30 years was in 2006, Michael Steele got 44%. He rode that to being RNC Chairman.

    Much like the New England states, electing R Governors is one thing, but electing R Senators that will confirm another Scalia is another. Too many liberals want the whip hand of the feds on the South, no matter the cost fiscally.

  25. They also see her as a model progressive in another sense: Edwards is not a white male.

    Once that sentence gets all the way to “neither white nor male,” then the Ds are cooked.

  26. @Wilkey
    The whole motive behind the Left's endorsement of mass immigration has been the belief that mass immigration will help leftist whites defeat conservative whites. What they never seem to have considered is that before racial minorities defeat conservative whites they will first defeat leftist whites within the Democratic Party. SWPL white Democrats get tingles up their legs with they get to occasionally embrace seemingly cool, hip black pols like Barack Obama. When grim reality sets in, however, and the Democrats become the party of Carrie Meek, Cynthia McKinney, Hank Johnson, and Luis Gutierrez, they will soon become disenchanted.

    Hillary Clinton's defeat in the 2008 primaries is a direct result of the racial policies of the Democratic Party. But rather than exhibit any self-awareness of how they've harmed her chances at the presidency, she appears to have doubled down on open borders.

    In more and more states, the dynamics within the Democratic Party will become a vicious cycle: guys like Chris Van Hollen won't won the primaries, so SWPL whites will abandon the Dems, so fewer and fewer whites will bother to run as Dems.

    It may be that the best hope for racial sanity isn't simply electing more Republican senators like Jeff Sessions, but electing more Democratic senators like Donna Edwards.

    Luis Gutierrez (PR) endorsed Rahm for re-election rather than the Mexican Chuy Garcia.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-chicago-mayor-race-met-0222-20150220-story.html#page=1

    The Latin red tide has it’s own internal divisions, without a strong machine the Ds will be ripping themselves apart. The question will be whether the GOP is still relevant by the time the fratricide really gets going.

  27. Bet on Edwards. Can’t ride the tiger forever. And its essier to turn out urban voters than suburban ones. Then there is good old fashion voting fraud.

    Who is your take on being better at voting fraud? Clean cut scion of old money or an urban community organizer?

  28. As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them “the worrisome black party” or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?

    • Replies: @Nico

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them “the worrisome black party” or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?
     
    Reread the article. The potential of altered demographics to upset the figures you cite - which hold true FOR NOW - is the whole point. And when the balance does fall the other way, Asians will be confronted with a whole new reality.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white…
     
    I seem to recall another nonwhite Democrat in the Senate a few years back. But they chose him to illustrate the Peter Principle, and he now works from home in a nearby residence.
    , @Rifleman

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them “the worrisome black party” or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?
     
    I tried to explain this to Steve the Nerd who loves numbers and data etc but he is fixated on this "Black Party" nonsense and wont give up on it.

    It's like golf courses, ockham's razor, regression to the mean and diminishing marginal returns. All Steve-obsessions till the grave.

    Another data point - in the last election 50% of single White men apparently voted Democrat.

    They can't all be "wiggers".
  29. @nglaer
    I don't know from Chris Van Hollen, but Edwards is impressive on foreign policy issues I've seen her speak about at J Street. Takes what should be a patriotic American position.

    Can Van Hollen afford to take an independent foreign policy stance? Or maybe Matt Damon’s James Jesus Angleton character is out of date and today would have to say: “The United States of America … we built it but we don’t own it any more.”

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    we built it
     
    Don't tell Obama.
    , @D. K.
    Italian-American actor-director Robert De Niro, along with Jewish-American writer Eric Roth, of course, took a famous person of color-- Mexican-American James Jesus Angleton Moreno-- and turned him into a haute WASP character, Edward Wilson, played by Matt Damon. Funny how that sort of thing happens in Hollywood....
    , @syonredux
    The memory of WASP hegemony will persist long into the future.It will be a kind of ghost story that the Hispanic Mestizo America of the future will tell itself, a bogeyman that they will conjure from time to time as a way to instill unity.
  30. @SPMoore8
    Well, in the picture Tubman looks more like a man than Jackson does; in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Sometimes I think American culture these days only exists for the lulz. I mean it is completely absurd.

    Well, in the picture Tubman looks more like a man than Jackson does…

    Robin Williams once held up a dollar bill and announced, “Barbara Bush!” He could have done likewise with a twenty. “Bette Davis!”

  31. …one of the most affluent majority-black counties in the United States.

    “One of”? How many of them are there to choose from?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Prince George's County is often described as affluent in the national media, but in the DC area it's considered the worst part and a place to avoid, not simply because it's not as affluent as the national media portrays it, but because it has high crime rates and is considered the most dangerous part of the DC area.
  32. Nico says:
    @Truth

    As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?
     
    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them "the worrisome black party" or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them “the worrisome black party” or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?

    Reread the article. The potential of altered demographics to upset the figures you cite – which hold true FOR NOW – is the whole point. And when the balance does fall the other way, Asians will be confronted with a whole new reality.

  33. @Truth

    As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?
     
    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them "the worrisome black party" or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white…

    I seem to recall another nonwhite Democrat in the Senate a few years back. But they chose him to illustrate the Peter Principle, and he now works from home in a nearby residence.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    What is this, a brain teaser? We're supposed to figure out who you're talking about? Or maybe you assume it's obvious? I don't get the point of being so indirect.
  34. @Steve Sailer
    Can Van Hollen afford to take an independent foreign policy stance? Or maybe Matt Damon's James Jesus Angleton character is out of date and today would have to say: "The United States of America ... we built it but we don't own it any more."

    we built it

    Don’t tell Obama.

  35. @SPMoore8
    Well, in the picture Tubman looks more like a man than Jackson does; in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Sometimes I think American culture these days only exists for the lulz. I mean it is completely absurd.

    in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Welcome, time traveler from the past! He goes by the name Muhammad Ali, as he has since 1964.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    Can the man recognize, or respond to, either name, these days?
    , @Dave Pinsen

    Welcome, time traveler from the past!
     
    He probably still uses a flip phone.
    , @Danindc
    Agree with SPMoore - we are busy men- no time to figure out what crazy Muslim name blacks are coming up with - in my head I call them all Malik Shabazz
  36. @nglaer
    I don't know from Chris Van Hollen, but Edwards is impressive on foreign policy issues I've seen her speak about at J Street. Takes what should be a patriotic American position.

    You’ve been reading too much “American Conservative.” In their bizarro land a “conservative” is not simply opposed to the Iraq war but in general opposed to military triumph and a hard line against enemies foreign and domestic, and supports anti-racist purges and gay marriage.

    • Replies: @manton
    It's so much worse than that. The AmCon "foreign policy" is indistinguishable from the New Left's. The more another country or group hates America, the more vitriol it spits at us, the more it opposes us in every possible venue, the more it kills our people, the more the AmCon lunatics love it.

    Demented, traitorous worms to the last man.
  37. This is not an unusual occurrence in Maryland. The black population is all in the Baltimore Washington corridor and the congressional district have been gerrymandered like spokes on a wheel. The above the waterline explanation for the crazy districts is to ensure racial balance and make sure Democrats have an edge in every district. The under the waterline reason is to prevent a black pol from building a big power base in the state.

    In the last governor’s race, a black guy was on the Democrat ticket. He had been made Lt. Governor by the previous mayor to balance the ticket, but the party machine thought he was a dunce. When he ran for governor, they stood aside and let him run his own campaign. It was one of the dumbest, most disorganized campaign you can imagine. It was like he was trying to lose. The press just clammed up as they can’t criticize a black for anything.

    Larry Hogan, the Republican, won despite the fact no one knew his name. There’s an argument that a blank space would have won. It was simply people voting against a guy who never should have been in politics in the first place.

    In this race, a screeching black lesbian will not get very far. Blacks will not rally to her and the machine will back Van Hollen. Being a one party state, whites solve the race issue in the Democrat primary by voting against the black. Maryland may be blue, but it is nothing like Massachusetts.

    A note to the Jew-haters. Maryland has a large Jewish population. They also have a large Lubavitcher colony.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yes, there is a sizable Jewish population in the Baltimore area. There are lots of Jewish students at the University of Maryland. Tamir Goodman, the "Jewish Jordan", was from Towson, near Baltimore.
  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve,
    You should think of blacks in the Democrat Party as more of a vanguard, stormtroopers, if you will, who lead from the front, shouting and screaming, stamping their feet, but ultimately always but always getting their own way as big sissy big daddy whitey caves in to yet another demand and buys that chocolate sundae.
    Perhaps I’ve mixed metaphors too much, spoiled brats and Nazi stormtroopers, but you get my drift.
    The shock troopers to her typical demur Asian or to stoic landscaping Pablo might seem unseemly and embarrassing, but ultimately the hissy fits and whitey abandoning everything before him wins rich dividends. As the old school lefties put it, ‘their battle is our battle’.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    Politics is largely a kabuki show for the idiot masses, while the people who hold the real levers of power stay unseen and unmentioned by the MSM.

    The front men and women are just figureheads who give a bit of legitimacy to the notion we're a democracy instead of a oligarchy.

    Put another way, at the end of the day our politicians are little more than self-propelled slot machines you stuff money in one slot and out comes the desired legislation out the other end. The system is blatantly pay to play and the little people at best get some table scraps.
  39. @Grumpy Old Man
    Emphasize affirmative action, and you'll have an Asian revolt against the Democratic Party. It happened in the California legislature

    Not if they are from Vietnam nam or Laos

  40. @Truth

    As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?
     
    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them "the worrisome black party" or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white, as are 146/193 Representatives; why would they consider them “the worrisome black party” or are Asians much stupider than you have led us to believe?

    I tried to explain this to Steve the Nerd who loves numbers and data etc but he is fixated on this “Black Party” nonsense and wont give up on it.

    It’s like golf courses, ockham’s razor, regression to the mean and diminishing marginal returns. All Steve-obsessions till the grave.

    Another data point – in the last election 50% of single White men apparently voted Democrat.

    They can’t all be “wiggers”.

  41. @Steve Sailer
    Can Van Hollen afford to take an independent foreign policy stance? Or maybe Matt Damon's James Jesus Angleton character is out of date and today would have to say: "The United States of America ... we built it but we don't own it any more."

    Italian-American actor-director Robert De Niro, along with Jewish-American writer Eric Roth, of course, took a famous person of color– Mexican-American James Jesus Angleton Moreno– and turned him into a haute WASP character, Edward Wilson, played by Matt Damon. Funny how that sort of thing happens in Hollywood….

    • Replies: @manton
    Calling Angleton a "Mexican-American" as if he were the equivalent of some East LA homeboy is risible. His father was as WASP as they come. He married a Mexican girl while on campaign with Black Jack Pershing. Angleton himself was born in Boise. The old man's money bought a company in Milan, where the young J. Jesus was raised for a time. He was private school all the way, in England, and later at Yale.

    I recommend the book Cold Warrior. Angleton's reputation has risen since that came out, but it's still best one-volume treatment.
  42. @The Anti-Gnostic
    in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Welcome, time traveler from the past! He goes by the name Muhammad Ali, as he has since 1964.

    Can the man recognize, or respond to, either name, these days?

  43. Hoping your enemies self-destruct before they finish you off is a risky strategy.

  44. Tim says:

    “Any financial advantage by him will probably be evened out by the sweat equity of progressive grass-roots volunteers. So resourcewise, this is a draw.”

    Doubt it.

    Edwards supporters aren’t going to do the hard work of manning the phones, and knocking on doors. If they know a camera will be there, they’ll come out with a sign and say the right things, but if it’s not all about getting attention, they won’t care.

  45. If I were Edwards I’d have my election team very carefully analyze the fate of Cynthia McKinney.

    • Replies: @nglaer
    Donna Edwards is much smarter and more temperate than Cynthia McKinney.
  46. Patrick in SC [AKA "Patrick from SC"] says:

    demonizing Privileged Straight White Males like Van Hollen is too much fun and to* necessary to turn off just for tactical reasons.

    * too

    And Van Hollen was a great band!

  47. Van Hollen’s bio:

    Van Hollen was born in Karachi, Pakistan, the eldest of three children of American parents Edith Eliza (née Farnsworth) and Christopher Van Hollen.[3][4] His father was a Foreign Service officer who served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs (1969–72) and U.S. Ambassador to Sri Lanka and the Maldives (1972–76);[5] and his mother worked in the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department, where she served as chief of the intelligence bureau for South Asia.[6][7][8] He also lived in Turkey, India, and Sri Lanka.[7] He returned to the United States for his junior year of high school, and attended Middlesex School in Concord, Massachusetts, where his grandfather once taught.[7]

    He is an alumnus of the Kodaikanal International School, a very prestigious school in southern India. In 1982, Van Hollen graduated from Swarthmore College with a Bachelor of Arts degree in philosophy.[9] He continued his studies at Harvard University, where he earned a Master of Public Policy degree, concentrating in national security studies, from the John F. Kennedy School of Government in 1985.[9]

  48. @Steve Sailer
    "Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks."

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    Asian American academics are working very hard to make sure that their brethren know that the White Man is the enemy, always has been and always will be.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    While white academics are doing their level best to make sure their fellow whites know that their own race is the enemy and source of all evil in the world.

    But wait there's more!!! Every graduate also gets a boat load of debt $50,000 - $200,000.00 that cannot be discharged nor avoided unless they die. Just imagine starting out in life and already hobbled by massive debt. What a wonderful gift by big academia.
  49. White Liberals don’t actually *get* diversity and what it means when the demographics actually start tipping over.

  50. @Reg Cæsar

    45/46 Democratic Senators are white…
     
    I seem to recall another nonwhite Democrat in the Senate a few years back. But they chose him to illustrate the Peter Principle, and he now works from home in a nearby residence.

    What is this, a brain teaser? We’re supposed to figure out who you’re talking about? Or maybe you assume it’s obvious? I don’t get the point of being so indirect.

    • Replies: @Bob Arctor
    "I seem to recall another nonwhite Democrat in the Senate a few years back."

    Yeah Harry, it's pretty damn obvious. Think about it for a moment.
    , @BurplesonAFB
    Obama
    , @Truth
    Daniel Inouye. He's a lobbyist for the Pineapple industry now.
    , @Nico
    Oh, come on, man. It's so obvious.

    A lot of us saw it coming all the way back in 2004.
    , @AnAnon
    Obama
  51. @Steve Sailer
    "Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks."

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    “Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    Of course, East Asian hate Whitey academics do contain their own internal contradictions.For example, there’s an East Asian female academic of my acquaintance, quite prominent in her field, chair of a department, etc.Her work is all about the evil White Man’s exploitation of POC labor: Black slaves, Chinese coolies, “blackbirding” in the Pacific, etc.Mention opium to her, and you will get a 15 minute tirade on the cruel way that British drug pushers operated in 19th century China.

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man……

    • Replies: @Kat Grey
    He pays all her bills
    , @Desiderius

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man……
     
    And she was likely hired by a white man, and promoted to chair by white men, all of them knowing her shtick and thereby consciously choosing it. They chose it because it sells to the mamas who want their babies to grow up to be globalists and so will pay full tuition to have that shtick taught to their offspring.

    It's not personal, you see.
    , @Clyde

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man……
     
    Its a career decision.
  52. @Harry Baldwin
    What is this, a brain teaser? We're supposed to figure out who you're talking about? Or maybe you assume it's obvious? I don't get the point of being so indirect.

    “I seem to recall another nonwhite Democrat in the Senate a few years back.”

    Yeah Harry, it’s pretty damn obvious. Think about it for a moment.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    • @BurplesonAFB, @Truth, @Nico, @AnAnon

    C'mon, guys, don't be so hard on poor Harry. What with his Carteresque "clinging" homily, his shopping for rocket at Whole Foods, and his embrace of the rectal consummation of marriage, it can be easy to forget at times that the President isn't white. SHWPL, so to speak-- Stuff Half-White People Like.

    I do like Truth's suggestion of reducing the significance of the office to the level of a pineapple lobbyist. And, to keep the balance of powers, bring Congress and the Supreme Court down with him.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    Okay, mea culpa, temporary caffeine deficiency, early-onset Alzheimer's, etc. Next time I ask a dumb question I'll go with the anonymous handle.
  53. His momma called ‘im “Clay,” I’ma call ‘im “Clay.”

  54. @syonredux

    “Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.
     
    Of course, East Asian hate Whitey academics do contain their own internal contradictions.For example, there's an East Asian female academic of my acquaintance, quite prominent in her field, chair of a department, etc.Her work is all about the evil White Man's exploitation of POC labor: Black slaves, Chinese coolies, "blackbirding" in the Pacific, etc.Mention opium to her, and you will get a 15 minute tirade on the cruel way that British drug pushers operated in 19th century China.

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man......

    He pays all her bills

  55. @Harry Baldwin
    What is this, a brain teaser? We're supposed to figure out who you're talking about? Or maybe you assume it's obvious? I don't get the point of being so indirect.

    Obama

  56. @Harry Baldwin
    What is this, a brain teaser? We're supposed to figure out who you're talking about? Or maybe you assume it's obvious? I don't get the point of being so indirect.

    Daniel Inouye. He’s a lobbyist for the Pineapple industry now.

    • Replies: @Curle
    If so, he's doing his lobbying from the grave.

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=102291389

  57. Of the neoconservatives that the 2003 BBC documentary “The War Party” spotlighted; namely, William Kristol, Josh Muravchek, Meyrav Wurmser, Richard Perle, James Woolsey, Michael Ledeen, all but Kristol and Woolsey live in van Hollen’s Montgomery County district.

    Leading front men for AIPAC such as Mitchell Bard as well as J-Street, AIPAC’s back bench (J Ben Ami), also live in van Hollen’s district, as do Robert Kagan and numerous “scholars” from AEI and WINEP.

    There are sections of Montgomery County that are now called the Little Apple.

    Van Hollen’s district is home to Lockheed Martin’s corporate headquarters. The other defense majors have substantial corporate satellites in van Hollen’s district.

    Montgomery County’s Asian population is growing by leaps and bounds; it’s just a tenth of a percentage point behind the Jewish community in MoCo, and growing. MoCo has its Jewish quarters and its Chinese quarters, pretty much the way cities in the 20th century had their Irish, Italian and Polish neighborhoods.
    There’s a curious phenomenon among many upwardly-mobile Asians in MoCo: they go out of their way to add a Jewish name or two to their contact list, but they are semi-repulsed by the displays of conspicuous consumption among that community.

    A recent profile of Prince George’s County, Maryland, Edwards’ district, focused on the paradox that while PG county is indeed “one of the most affluent majority-black counties in the United States,” the County is stagnating because Whites are not eager to buy homes or start businesses in majority-black areas. PG County is, however, home to University of Maryland, a public university that is increasing its ability to compete with universities closer-in to DC such as George Washington and Georgetown, in its ability to advance influence-shapers and get “public intellectuals” on the DC media circuit (circus?).

    Gut feeling: in a matchup between van Hollen and Edwards, Edwards does not stand a chance.

    It would be interesting to see what would happen if a strong Republican candidate got on the ballot, but I don’t know who that would be. van Hollen is as close to Republican as one needs to be to represent a district where folks like the neoconservatives in The War Party have significant influence.

  58. PS in oh-so-sophisticated Montgomery County Maryland, home to Lockheed Martin, the Genome Project, National Institutes of Health, National Institutes of Standards and Technology, the entire catalog and borrowing system of the public library system has crashed and has been nonfunctioning for at least three days. There is no way to check out or check in library material.

    On the other hand, the help desk in India has offered to connect the Library System’s troubleshooter with a post-call survey to ensure that the call was handled satisfactorily —-

  59. @iSteveFan
    OT, Latest push to remove Andrew Jackson and put Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill.

    I think they’ll rename Washington, DC in my lifetime.

  60. Didn’t Frizzel Gray aka Kweise Mfume get pushed aside so Ben Cardin could have Maryland’s other Senate seat? Jews tend to want those Senate seats and they are about the only group in the Democrats ethnic circus to have the muscle to shove a ‘black candidate’ aside. Don’t think blacks would be willing to allow a Montgomery County Wasp to do the same even if it costs them the seat.

    The issue I guess will be can blacks get their underclass voters mobilized for a primary election.

  61. @ingo


    As I’ve been saying, a major political question is whether Asians and Latinos will view the GOP more as the resented White Party or the Democrats more as the worrisome Black Party?
     
    Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.

    Blacks are irrelvant in the western half of the country. As the Asian and Hispanic shares grow while the black share stays constant, Asians and Hispanics will increase their power in the Democratic party.

    I’m not buying this idea that black bad behavior will drive other minorities to the GOP. Why hasn’t it happened already? After black rioters targeted Asians in 1992, the Asian vote began a long term shift towards the Democrats.

    • Replies: @Mark
    The Republican party has tried to appeal more to the Christian right in recent years. This has hurt Republican attempts to woo Asians because most Asians aren't Christians and are reluctant to vote for a strongly Christian party. The Republicans could get more Asian votes by espousing socially conservative values in general that both Christians and Asians would like but at the same time not explicitly allying themselves with the Christian religion.
    , @Curle

    Why hasn’t it happened already? After black rioters targeted Asians in 1992, the Asian vote began a long term shift towards the Democrats.
     
    In '92 blacks targeted Koreans. I live in a community with a large Korean presence. Here they tend to align with the GOP. And, of course, Donald Sterling was criticized for catering to their desire to live separated from blacks.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/9/asian-vote-breaks-for-republicans-in-midterms/?page=all
    , @Anonymous
    Hispanics are already a larger percentage of the population than blacks are. The Dems can't really be the black party because there aren't enough blacks to rely on black votes alone to win elections at the national level. They'll need nonblacks to win elections. On the other hand, the Republicans are increasingly the white party because of increasing white discontent and disillusionment. As a result, the Republicans will be limited in how much they can appeal to nonwhites without jeopardizing white support. Presumably, nonwhites will be more reluctant to support the Republicans if they correctly sense that the Republicans are increasingly attracting white support out of discontent and disillusionment. And this reluctance will reinforce this white support for the Republicans. So I imagine the most likely scenario is for the Dems to continue to be a minority coalition party of various nonwhite groups and some whites and for the Republicans to be the white majority party.
  62. @syonredux

    Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.
     
    Asian American academics are working very hard to make sure that their brethren know that the White Man is the enemy, always has been and always will be.

    While white academics are doing their level best to make sure their fellow whites know that their own race is the enemy and source of all evil in the world.

    But wait there’s more!!! Every graduate also gets a boat load of debt $50,000 – $200,000.00 that cannot be discharged nor avoided unless they die. Just imagine starting out in life and already hobbled by massive debt. What a wonderful gift by big academia.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz

    While white academics are doing their level best to make sure their fellow whites know that their own race is the enemy and source of all evil in the world.
     
    Exactly. For cultural and probably genetic reasons, (East) Asians tend to be strongly socially-conformist. Since all the English Lit-type departments are filled with academics, both white and non-white, who spend much of their time denouncing white culture and white history, the Asians there conform to their role models. However, the overwhelming majority of Asian academics are actually in "real" subjects such as biology, engineering, chemistry, and math, and I'd very much doubt that almost any of them pay attention to such ideological nonsense, being mostly apolitical or vaguely liberal in a restrained way. The problem with "Syon" is that he/she incorrectly extrapolates from all the crazies encountered at English Lit conventions to university academics as a whole or even our entire society.

    Another commenter alluded to the Affirmative Action controversy last year in CA, and that also illustrates my point. As I recall, every single Asian Democrat in the Legislature initially supported reestablishing AA in university admissions and then were totally blindsided by the massive popular uprising among their Asian constituents. So they all immediately did a 180 and the Democratic Party ditched the entire proposal as dangerously divisive. Asian elected officials tend to be socially-conformist and since they hang out in Sacto with all the other liberal Democrats and lobbyists, they just go along with them on most issues.
  63. @Harry Baldwin
    What is this, a brain teaser? We're supposed to figure out who you're talking about? Or maybe you assume it's obvious? I don't get the point of being so indirect.

    Oh, come on, man. It’s so obvious.

    A lot of us saw it coming all the way back in 2004.

  64. @Steve Sailer
    Can Van Hollen afford to take an independent foreign policy stance? Or maybe Matt Damon's James Jesus Angleton character is out of date and today would have to say: "The United States of America ... we built it but we don't own it any more."

    The memory of WASP hegemony will persist long into the future.It will be a kind of ghost story that the Hispanic Mestizo America of the future will tell itself, a bogeyman that they will conjure from time to time as a way to instill unity.

  65. @Wilkey
    The whole motive behind the Left's endorsement of mass immigration has been the belief that mass immigration will help leftist whites defeat conservative whites. What they never seem to have considered is that before racial minorities defeat conservative whites they will first defeat leftist whites within the Democratic Party. SWPL white Democrats get tingles up their legs with they get to occasionally embrace seemingly cool, hip black pols like Barack Obama. When grim reality sets in, however, and the Democrats become the party of Carrie Meek, Cynthia McKinney, Hank Johnson, and Luis Gutierrez, they will soon become disenchanted.

    Hillary Clinton's defeat in the 2008 primaries is a direct result of the racial policies of the Democratic Party. But rather than exhibit any self-awareness of how they've harmed her chances at the presidency, she appears to have doubled down on open borders.

    In more and more states, the dynamics within the Democratic Party will become a vicious cycle: guys like Chris Van Hollen won't won the primaries, so SWPL whites will abandon the Dems, so fewer and fewer whites will bother to run as Dems.

    It may be that the best hope for racial sanity isn't simply electing more Republican senators like Jeff Sessions, but electing more Democratic senators like Donna Edwards.

    I agree. Go Edwards. The sooner white males realize the democrats hate them and won’t vote for them, the better.

  66. Steve, for all his good looks and for not being a black militant female, Chris Van Hollen nonetheless votes with his party on immigration. If he were Jewish this piece of yours would dwell less on his golden-boyness and concentrate instead on how he’s taking vengeance against the American people for having blackballed his grandfather at the country club.

    • Replies: @iffen
    So you want to make this post into something about Jews when it clearly is not about Jews.

    Why did you do this?
    , @syonredux

    If he were Jewish
     
    But he's not.Hence, no need to explore Jewish attitudes when Steve is writing about him.
  67. @International Jew
    Steve, for all his good looks and for not being a black militant female, Chris Van Hollen nonetheless votes with his party on immigration. If he were Jewish this piece of yours would dwell less on his golden-boyness and concentrate instead on how he's taking vengeance against the American people for having blackballed his grandfather at the country club.

    So you want to make this post into something about Jews when it clearly is not about Jews.

    Why did you do this?

    • Replies: @SecretaryNS
    Have you ever been to this site before? Click around some comment sections here, and you'll see posts being made into being about Jews frequently.
    , @International Jew
    Because at this blog, everything ultimately comes back to Jews. Just hang in there a bit.
    , @Anonymous
    I think IJ's point is that things like positions on immigration aren't being evaluated completely objectively when they're taken to mean one thing for one person, and another for other people.
  68. Edwards is black, female and a Democrat. If she can demonstrate that she is Lesbian, Bi or trans, she wins the electoral lottery.

  69. @Harry Baldwin
    What is this, a brain teaser? We're supposed to figure out who you're talking about? Or maybe you assume it's obvious? I don't get the point of being so indirect.

    Obama

  70. @International Jew
    Steve, for all his good looks and for not being a black militant female, Chris Van Hollen nonetheless votes with his party on immigration. If he were Jewish this piece of yours would dwell less on his golden-boyness and concentrate instead on how he's taking vengeance against the American people for having blackballed his grandfather at the country club.

    If he were Jewish

    But he’s not.Hence, no need to explore Jewish attitudes when Steve is writing about him.

  71. @Steve Sailer
    "Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks."

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    “”Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.””

    People like the author of the popular blog “Angry Asian Man”. The people that Asians should be angry against are pretty much strictly limited to white people. He links to articles shaming Asians for being against affirmative action, but any mention of a violent crime or hate crime against Asians will always leave the race of the perpetrator blank (further digging will almost always reveal it to be a NAM).

    http://blog.angryasianman.com/?m=1

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Angry Asian Man" thinks Asians in the U.S who adopt White culture are complete sellouts, but has nothing but praise for Asians in the U.S who adopt Black culture and use lots of Ebonics when they speak. So to him Lucy Liu is a sellout because she acts like a White girl, but Eddie Huang is his hero because he acts like an Asian version of a Wigger.
  72. Given their black Baltimore money pit and the above, it’s no wonder that Western portions of the state want to secede. Some Western New Yorker counties are talking about joining Pennsylvania as well. Right now they are prevented from taking advantage of the gas wealth under their feet by anti-frakking leftists in Albany. Corrupt minority urban zones, together with liberal affluent suburbs hold all too many majority white areas in permanent tax peonage.

    Such legal, representational exodus from minority dominated states doesn’t get enough positive play. I believe that it is legal. It needs to become a cause among traditional Americans.

  73. @syonredux

    “Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.
     
    Of course, East Asian hate Whitey academics do contain their own internal contradictions.For example, there's an East Asian female academic of my acquaintance, quite prominent in her field, chair of a department, etc.Her work is all about the evil White Man's exploitation of POC labor: Black slaves, Chinese coolies, "blackbirding" in the Pacific, etc.Mention opium to her, and you will get a 15 minute tirade on the cruel way that British drug pushers operated in 19th century China.

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man......

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man……

    And she was likely hired by a white man, and promoted to chair by white men, all of them knowing her shtick and thereby consciously choosing it. They chose it because it sells to the mamas who want their babies to grow up to be globalists and so will pay full tuition to have that shtick taught to their offspring.

    It’s not personal, you see.

  74. Mark says:
    @Lackawanna
    Blacks are irrelvant in the western half of the country. As the Asian and Hispanic shares grow while the black share stays constant, Asians and Hispanics will increase their power in the Democratic party.

    I'm not buying this idea that black bad behavior will drive other minorities to the GOP. Why hasn't it happened already? After black rioters targeted Asians in 1992, the Asian vote began a long term shift towards the Democrats.

    The Republican party has tried to appeal more to the Christian right in recent years. This has hurt Republican attempts to woo Asians because most Asians aren’t Christians and are reluctant to vote for a strongly Christian party. The Republicans could get more Asian votes by espousing socially conservative values in general that both Christians and Asians would like but at the same time not explicitly allying themselves with the Christian religion.

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    They vote democrat because they support the lions share of what the democrat party offers. as to the things they don't like, right now its the cost of doing business, and later they can challenge and perhaps change those things.
  75. @iffen
    So you want to make this post into something about Jews when it clearly is not about Jews.

    Why did you do this?

    Have you ever been to this site before? Click around some comment sections here, and you’ll see posts being made into being about Jews frequently.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Have you ever been to this site before? Click around some comment sections here, and you’ll see posts being made into being about Jews frequently."

    Don't blame the obsession with Jews on Steve Sailer, most of Steve's blogs have nothing to do with Jews. It's just that his readers always inject Jews into the equation. Steve's blogs talk a lot more about Blacks, immigration, World War T, rape culture, and pop culture than they do about Jews. But his readers always find a away to slip in the Jews into these conversations.

    If you want an example of a blogger on The Unz who only makes blogs about the Jews, than that's Philip Giraldi.
  76. @Anonymous
    Steve,
    You should think of blacks in the Democrat Party as more of a vanguard, stormtroopers, if you will, who lead from the front, shouting and screaming, stamping their feet, but ultimately always but always getting their own way as big sissy big daddy whitey caves in to yet another demand and buys that chocolate sundae.
    Perhaps I've mixed metaphors too much, spoiled brats and Nazi stormtroopers, but you get my drift.
    The shock troopers to her typical demur Asian or to stoic landscaping Pablo might seem unseemly and embarrassing, but ultimately the hissy fits and whitey abandoning everything before him wins rich dividends. As the old school lefties put it, 'their battle is our battle'.

    Politics is largely a kabuki show for the idiot masses, while the people who hold the real levers of power stay unseen and unmentioned by the MSM.

    The front men and women are just figureheads who give a bit of legitimacy to the notion we’re a democracy instead of a oligarchy.

    Put another way, at the end of the day our politicians are little more than self-propelled slot machines you stuff money in one slot and out comes the desired legislation out the other end. The system is blatantly pay to play and the little people at best get some table scraps.

  77. Donna Edwards. A pugnacious former community organizer, Edwards is a four-term ….

    See her photos. She is emaciated in some of them and looks lesbian in all of them. No husband mentioned @wiki. Another crazed SJW.

  78. @iffen
    So you want to make this post into something about Jews when it clearly is not about Jews.

    Why did you do this?

    Because at this blog, everything ultimately comes back to Jews. Just hang in there a bit.

  79. @nglaer
    I don't know from Chris Van Hollen, but Edwards is impressive on foreign policy issues I've seen her speak about at J Street. Takes what should be a patriotic American position.

    Even if that were a logical stance, it’s no more remarkable than a blind pig finding a truffle once in a while.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    Even if that were a logical stance, it’s no more remarkable than a blind pig finding a truffle once in a while.

     

    Truffle hogs use their snouts, not their eyes. Blindness would be a minor handicap to truffling.

    Perhaps Rep Edwards has good political olfactory. European explorers thought African chieftains dumb as rocks, but did note their keen sense of who among strangers held the power.
  80. After so many words have been redefined as slurs against blacks recently, whether applied to a violent criminal or a President or First Lady, I’m surprised that it’s okay to call a black woman “pugnacious” in print.

  81. @Sunbeam
    Kind of at a loss for words on Citizens United.

    I know that we have had a long history of things like union involvement in politics.

    But with the mechanics of the way the modern world works with media and well advertising expertise, Citizens United seems like one of the last spades of dirt thrown on the comfortable illusion that we have a democracy and an electorate that pays attention.

    The Lincoln/Douglas debates were a long time ago. In what increasingly looks like a foreign country (I think we are well on the way to "Idiocracy").

    Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy
    “mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence.”
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy
    In short: A Plutocracy.

  82. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    …one of the most affluent majority-black counties in the United States.
     
    "One of"? How many of them are there to choose from?

    Prince George’s County is often described as affluent in the national media, but in the DC area it’s considered the worst part and a place to avoid, not simply because it’s not as affluent as the national media portrays it, but because it has high crime rates and is considered the most dangerous part of the DC area.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Prince George’s County is often described as affluent in the national media, but in the DC area it’s considered the worst part and a place to avoid, not simply because it’s not as affluent as the national media portrays it, but because it has high crime rates and is considered the most dangerous part of the DC area."

    I have read on the internet that the reason Prince George's County has such a high crime rate is because a lot of the Black underclass from Baltimore and Washington D.C have migrated there. I read that it is a class integrated County where it is the norm for middle class Black households to live within walking distance to the housing projects and Section 8 housing. In other words there is little to no residential class segregation between middle class Blacks and the Black underclass in PG County. They all live within very close proximity to each other. So a Black household in PG County could be earning $80 thousand dollars a year for example, yet still live in a neighborhood that has 3rd world levels of crime.

    You rarely see this among Whites, where middle class/upper middle class Whites live within walking distance of the Black underclass or the White underclass.

  83. @The Z Blog
    This is not an unusual occurrence in Maryland. The black population is all in the Baltimore Washington corridor and the congressional district have been gerrymandered like spokes on a wheel. The above the waterline explanation for the crazy districts is to ensure racial balance and make sure Democrats have an edge in every district. The under the waterline reason is to prevent a black pol from building a big power base in the state.

    In the last governor's race, a black guy was on the Democrat ticket. He had been made Lt. Governor by the previous mayor to balance the ticket, but the party machine thought he was a dunce. When he ran for governor, they stood aside and let him run his own campaign. It was one of the dumbest, most disorganized campaign you can imagine. It was like he was trying to lose. The press just clammed up as they can't criticize a black for anything.

    Larry Hogan, the Republican, won despite the fact no one knew his name. There's an argument that a blank space would have won. It was simply people voting against a guy who never should have been in politics in the first place.

    In this race, a screeching black lesbian will not get very far. Blacks will not rally to her and the machine will back Van Hollen. Being a one party state, whites solve the race issue in the Democrat primary by voting against the black. Maryland may be blue, but it is nothing like Massachusetts.

    A note to the Jew-haters. Maryland has a large Jewish population. They also have a large Lubavitcher colony.

    Yes, there is a sizable Jewish population in the Baltimore area. There are lots of Jewish students at the University of Maryland. Tamir Goodman, the “Jewish Jordan”, was from Towson, near Baltimore.

  84. The Walmarts are going to have to give people $20.00 an hour for their otherwise worthless time to peddle cheap commie made stuff to people. The dumb commies have to work for under a buck an hour or the whole system goes to chaos. We need more weak links to expand the system. The people making the stuff get shit and the clerks peddling it get all the profit for doing basically nothing. Bloggs and Amazon are demolishing the superstores. Store Wars rages on.

  85. @iffen
    So you want to make this post into something about Jews when it clearly is not about Jews.

    Why did you do this?

    I think IJ’s point is that things like positions on immigration aren’t being evaluated completely objectively when they’re taken to mean one thing for one person, and another for other people.

  86. @The Anti-Gnostic
    in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Welcome, time traveler from the past! He goes by the name Muhammad Ali, as he has since 1964.

    Welcome, time traveler from the past!

    He probably still uses a flip phone.

  87. @Hapalong Cassidy
    ""Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.""

    People like the author of the popular blog "Angry Asian Man". The people that Asians should be angry against are pretty much strictly limited to white people. He links to articles shaming Asians for being against affirmative action, but any mention of a violent crime or hate crime against Asians will always leave the race of the perpetrator blank (further digging will almost always reveal it to be a NAM).

    http://blog.angryasianman.com/?m=1

    “Angry Asian Man” thinks Asians in the U.S who adopt White culture are complete sellouts, but has nothing but praise for Asians in the U.S who adopt Black culture and use lots of Ebonics when they speak. So to him Lucy Liu is a sellout because she acts like a White girl, but Eddie Huang is his hero because he acts like an Asian version of a Wigger.

    • Replies: @Curle

    Asians in the U.S who adopt Black culture and use lots of Ebonics when they speak.
     
    For a bizarre example of the type, check out this video of Laura Nyro's rapper son, half-white half-East Indian, starting at the 1 minute mark. In his defense his mother died when he was a child and he seems to have been raised (somewhat) by her lesbian friends.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4XbhAqpSMQ
  88. @SecretaryNS
    Have you ever been to this site before? Click around some comment sections here, and you'll see posts being made into being about Jews frequently.

    “Have you ever been to this site before? Click around some comment sections here, and you’ll see posts being made into being about Jews frequently.”

    Don’t blame the obsession with Jews on Steve Sailer, most of Steve’s blogs have nothing to do with Jews. It’s just that his readers always inject Jews into the equation. Steve’s blogs talk a lot more about Blacks, immigration, World War T, rape culture, and pop culture than they do about Jews. But his readers always find a away to slip in the Jews into these conversations.

    If you want an example of a blogger on The Unz who only makes blogs about the Jews, than that’s Philip Giraldi.

    • Replies: @iffen
    I do see comments that mention Jews because the commenter has Jews on the brain. What I couldn't understand is why IJ, assuming he is Jewish, would do the same.

    He previously stated that this site was anti-Semitic and I asked for specific instances (other than comments) and he did not respond.
  89. @Jus' Sayin'...
    If I were Edwards I'd have my election team very carefully analyze the fate of Cynthia McKinney.

    Donna Edwards is much smarter and more temperate than Cynthia McKinney.

  90. @syonredux

    “Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks.”

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.
     
    Of course, East Asian hate Whitey academics do contain their own internal contradictions.For example, there's an East Asian female academic of my acquaintance, quite prominent in her field, chair of a department, etc.Her work is all about the evil White Man's exploitation of POC labor: Black slaves, Chinese coolies, "blackbirding" in the Pacific, etc.Mention opium to her, and you will get a 15 minute tirade on the cruel way that British drug pushers operated in 19th century China.

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man......

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man……

    Its a career decision.

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    Paging Amy C.....
  91. @Wilkey
    The whole motive behind the Left's endorsement of mass immigration has been the belief that mass immigration will help leftist whites defeat conservative whites. What they never seem to have considered is that before racial minorities defeat conservative whites they will first defeat leftist whites within the Democratic Party. SWPL white Democrats get tingles up their legs with they get to occasionally embrace seemingly cool, hip black pols like Barack Obama. When grim reality sets in, however, and the Democrats become the party of Carrie Meek, Cynthia McKinney, Hank Johnson, and Luis Gutierrez, they will soon become disenchanted.

    Hillary Clinton's defeat in the 2008 primaries is a direct result of the racial policies of the Democratic Party. But rather than exhibit any self-awareness of how they've harmed her chances at the presidency, she appears to have doubled down on open borders.

    In more and more states, the dynamics within the Democratic Party will become a vicious cycle: guys like Chris Van Hollen won't won the primaries, so SWPL whites will abandon the Dems, so fewer and fewer whites will bother to run as Dems.

    It may be that the best hope for racial sanity isn't simply electing more Republican senators like Jeff Sessions, but electing more Democratic senators like Donna Edwards.

    I liked your rejoinder, but I think your lumping of urban white Democrats under the “SWPL” tag is far too simplistic.

    In fact, many white Democrats are nothing more than cynical opportunists who will play any tune to get into office. Some of them are former left-wing nutters with a few of the old nuts still roasting, like Hillary Clinton. Others, especially the ones ostensibly raised Catholic (often but not always straight-through in Catholic schools!), are pure vultures. Read: the Cuomos, the Kennedys (notwithstanding Ted Kennedy’s monomaniacal obsession projects in latter years, but as Fulton J. Sheen said: if you don’t live as you believe, you will end up believing in what you live!), Kirsten Gillibrand or Pat Quinn. (Or nearly EVERY prominent white Democratic politician from Illinois in living memory.)

    The cynic types are indeed likely to clash with the grassroots minorities when these latter become too big a nuissance (think the Miriam Oliphant catastrophe in Broward County, Florida), but they are also aware of the delicate territory they tread on. After all, actual, authentic SWPL/hipster electors often genuinely *like* minority candidates simply *because* they are minorities, and yet the cynic types, often (and increasingly) on shaky ground with the minorities, definitely need SWPL votes to win and do not hesitate to play to this constituency, whatever their actual worldview/lifestyle.

    On the ground level the Reagan Democrats, though badly reduced, do still exist, and these are the folk who would most directly clash with minorities. But since their material means are modest and they tend to go Republican at the national level and increasingly (though not necessarily) at the local level, they are mostly held in contempt by the cynics who view them as a nuissance and the minorities and SWPLs who want them (often literally literally) dead, when of course these three groups are not busy confiscating (through crime or public policy) what little the Reagan Democrats do have.

    • Replies: @Dew
    Democrats tend to view the white working class with indifference at best and contempt at worst. When the big election comes however, suddenly Democrats play somewhat nice with them and the white middle class in order to get votes.

    I know Republicans are generally meh but is their any real reason these days to vote for Dems if your white working class male? What do you gain from it?
  92. @Bob Arctor
    "I seem to recall another nonwhite Democrat in the Senate a few years back."

    Yeah Harry, it's pretty damn obvious. Think about it for a moment.

    • , , ,

    C’mon, guys, don’t be so hard on poor Harry. What with his Carteresque “clinging” homily, his shopping for rocket at Whole Foods, and his embrace of the rectal consummation of marriage, it can be easy to forget at times that the President isn’t white. SHWPL, so to speak– Stuff Half-White People Like.

    I do like Truth’s suggestion of reducing the significance of the office to the level of a pineapple lobbyist. And, to keep the balance of powers, bring Congress and the Supreme Court down with him.

  93. @Nico
    You've been reading too much "American Conservative." In their bizarro land a "conservative" is not simply opposed to the Iraq war but in general opposed to military triumph and a hard line against enemies foreign and domestic, and supports anti-racist purges and gay marriage.

    It’s so much worse than that. The AmCon “foreign policy” is indistinguishable from the New Left’s. The more another country or group hates America, the more vitriol it spits at us, the more it opposes us in every possible venue, the more it kills our people, the more the AmCon lunatics love it.

    Demented, traitorous worms to the last man.

  94. @D. K.
    Italian-American actor-director Robert De Niro, along with Jewish-American writer Eric Roth, of course, took a famous person of color-- Mexican-American James Jesus Angleton Moreno-- and turned him into a haute WASP character, Edward Wilson, played by Matt Damon. Funny how that sort of thing happens in Hollywood....

    Calling Angleton a “Mexican-American” as if he were the equivalent of some East LA homeboy is risible. His father was as WASP as they come. He married a Mexican girl while on campaign with Black Jack Pershing. Angleton himself was born in Boise. The old man’s money bought a company in Milan, where the young J. Jesus was raised for a time. He was private school all the way, in England, and later at Yale.

    I recommend the book Cold Warrior. Angleton’s reputation has risen since that came out, but it’s still best one-volume treatment.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Did Angleton know Ezra pound from idaho?
    , @D. K.
    I did not say that he was the equivalent of some mestizo low-rider from East L.A., chico; I said that he was a Mexican-American named James Jesus [pronounced "Hey, Zeus!" not "Geeze, us!"] Angleton Moreno (in his mother's home country)-- and, quess what? He was!

    He was born in Idaho, not in Manhattan or Boston. His father might have been a W.A.S.P., but his mother was a devout Roman Catholic. So was her son. He grew up in Roman Catholic Italy, not in Protestant England, let alone in blue-blood portions of Boston or Manhattan. Being rich and well-bred does not make one any less Mexican, nor any less Roman Catholic. The man was not a W.A.S.P.!

    According to the latter-day American Establishment, James Angleton was a "person of color" simply on the basis of his mother's birth-- and, as such, he himself also was presumed to be "oppressed" by the American majority, as a matter of law, and entitled to certain legal preferences, as recompense for that innate oppression.

    Yet, a decade or so ago, when Mr. De Niro and Mr. Roth put their ethnic and ideological heads together, they turned Mr. Angleton's colorful and interesting life story into precisely the type of bland "whitebread" story of supposedly unearned Northeastern W.A.S.P. privilege that one would expect to come out of Hollywood's nightmare factory.
    , @D. K.
    This is the early portion of his biography, from the Spartacus Educational Web site:

    ***

    James Jesus Angleton was born in Boise, Idaho, on 9th December, 1917. His father, Hugh Angleton, was a former cavalry officer who met his wife, a seventeen-year-old Mexican woman, Carmen Mercedes Moreno, while serving in Mexico, under General John J. Pershing. (1)

    Hugh Angleton was an executive of the National Cash Register Company. (2) Thomas McCoy, a family friend, described him as "a six-foot-four, raw-boned, red-faced farm boy; a broad super-friendly guy, who was the outgoing salesman type and a born trader. He and his son were as different as one can imagine." (3)

    Carmen Mercedes Moreno was a devout Catholic who insisted on giving him the name of Jesus. "As he grew older he became proud of his Mexican background - but, at the beginning, no. He never liked to use his middle name... Who likes to go around with a middle name of Jesus?" (4)

    In 1931 Hugh Angleton moved his family to Milan, for business reasons. He was very impressed with Benito Mussolini and his friend, Max Corvo, commented "Hugh Angleton... was ultra-conservative, a sympathizer with Fascist officials. He was certainly not unfriendly with the Fascists." (5) In 1933 Angleton was sent to Malvern College. (6) "He learned all about snobbery, prejudice, and school beatings. Before he left three years later he had served as a prefect, a corporal in the Officers' Training Corps, and joined the Old Malvern Society. He seems to have become more English than the English, a useful ruse perhaps for Malvern's lone half-Mexican Yank." (7) Angleton later recalled: "I was brought up in England in one of my formative years and I must confess that I learned, at least I was disciplined to learn, certain features of life, and what I regarded as duty." (8)

    James Jesus Angleton entered Yale University in 1937: "Angleton had already developed a distinctive personal style. He spoke with a slight English accent (probably not an affection after three years in the country), and was tall, athletic, bright, and handsome... By conventional standards he was a poor student, frequently missing class, excelling only in those subjects that interested him, and occasionally failing those that didn't." (9) A fellow student, Reed Whittemore, later commented: "All through Yale, Jim was backward at completing school papers... It may be that he was just lazy - or maybe he had a psychological problem. He had the class record for incompletes, but he could invariably whitewash over these missing grades because he had a favorable presence with the teachers, who for the most part liked him a lot." (10)

    Angleton and Whittemore edited a quarterly of original poetry, called Furioso, financed mostly by subscriptions raised by Whittemore's aunt. Angleton and Whittemore were both promising poets and other contributors included Archibald MacLeish, Ezra Pound, E.E. Cummings and William Carlos Williams. Whittemore later commented: "When we were short of money, which was most of the tune, we paid off our poets with fine Italian cravats from the stock that the Angleton haberdasher in Italy kept replenishing." (11)

    In the autumn of 1941 Angleton moved on to Harvard Law School. Soon afterwards he met Cicely Harriet d’Autremont: "There was nothing in the room except a large reproduction of El Greco's View of Toledo. It showed a huge unearthly green sky. Jim was standing underneath the picture. If anything went together, it was him and the picture. I fell madly in love at first sight. I'd never met anyone like him in my life. He was so charismatic. It was as if the lightning in the picture had suddenly struck me. He had an El Greco face. It was extraordinary." (12) They became engaged in April 1943, a few weeks after Angleton had been drafted into the United States Army. Hugh Angleton, disapproved of the relationship but the wedding took place quietly three months later on 17th July, in Battle Creek, Michigan. (13)

    James Hugh Angleton became a senior figure in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and was on the staff of Colonel William Donovan. It had been created by President Franklin D. Roosevelt soon after the outbreak of the Second World War. The OSS replaced the former American intelligence system, Office of the Coordinator of Information (OCI) that was considered to be ineffective. The OSS had responsibility for collecting and analyzing information about countries at war with the United States. It also helped to organize guerrilla fighting, sabotage and espionage.

    In August 1944, Lieutenant Colonel James Hugh Angleton and Norman Holmes Pearson, Angleton's former English professor at Yale University, contacted James R. Murphy, the head of the new X-2 CI (Counter Intelligence) branch of the OSS. On 25th September, 1943, Murphy issued a memo: "I would greatly appreciate it if you could get provisional security for Corporal James Angleton in order that he may commence OSS school on Monday. His father is with this branch... In addition young Angleton is very well known to Norman Pearson, who recommended him to me." (14)

    During his training James Jesus Angleton met Richard Helms, the former national advertising manager of the Indianapolis Times, who had joined the OSS in August 1943. In his autobiography, A Look Over My Shoulder (2003) he commented: "As a young man, Jim was bone thin, gaunt, and aggressively intellectual in aspect. His not entirely coincidental resemblance to T. S. Eliot was intensified by a European wardrobe, studious manner, heavy glasses, and lifelong interest in poetry." (15)

    ***

    (1) Charles J.V. Murphy, Time Magazine (24th February, 1975)

    (2) David Wise, Molehunt (1992) page 40

    (3) Thomas McCoy, interviewed by Jeff Goldberg (28th April, 1988)

    (4) Cicely Angleton, interviewed by Tom Mangold (30th May, 1988)

    (5) Max Corvo, interviewed by Jeff Goldberg (17th February, 1988)

    (6) Stephen Engelberg, New York Times (12th May, 1987)

    (7) Tom Mangold, Cold Warrior: James Jesus Angleton: The CIA's Master Spy Hunter (1991) page 34

    (8) James Jesus Angleton, interview in the television programme, This Week (November, 1976)

    (9) Tom Mangold, Cold Warrior: James Jesus Angleton: The CIA's Master Spy Hunter (1991) page 34

    (10) Reed Whittemore, interviewed by Tom Mangold (6th June, 1988)

    (11) Charles J.V. Murphy, Time Magazine (24th February, 1975)

    (12) Cicely Angleton, interviewed by Tom Mangold (30th May, 1988)

    (13) Tom Mangold, Cold Warrior: James Jesus Angleton: The CIA's Master Spy Hunter (1991) page 37

    (14) James R. Murphy, Office of Strategic Services memo (25th September, 1943)

    (15) Richard Helms, A Look Over My Shoulder (2003) page 153

    ***

    http://spartacus-educational.com/SSangleton.htm

    ***

    Here is his father's page at Find a Grave:

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7256026

    ***

    Hugh Angleton hardly seems to have been a haute W.A.S.P. of the Northeatern variety....
  95. @iSteveFan
    OT, Latest push to remove Andrew Jackson and put Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill.

    Good Christ Almighty! That mug!This was the broad famous for saying,”Ain’t I a woman too?”

  96. @Jefferson
    "Have you ever been to this site before? Click around some comment sections here, and you’ll see posts being made into being about Jews frequently."

    Don't blame the obsession with Jews on Steve Sailer, most of Steve's blogs have nothing to do with Jews. It's just that his readers always inject Jews into the equation. Steve's blogs talk a lot more about Blacks, immigration, World War T, rape culture, and pop culture than they do about Jews. But his readers always find a away to slip in the Jews into these conversations.

    If you want an example of a blogger on The Unz who only makes blogs about the Jews, than that's Philip Giraldi.

    I do see comments that mention Jews because the commenter has Jews on the brain. What I couldn’t understand is why IJ, assuming he is Jewish, would do the same.

    He previously stated that this site was anti-Semitic and I asked for specific instances (other than comments) and he did not respond.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    We had to wait only four days:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/matthew-weiner-explains-mad-men-is-about-white-power/#comment-951235
  97. Dew says:
    @Nico
    I liked your rejoinder, but I think your lumping of urban white Democrats under the "SWPL" tag is far too simplistic.

    In fact, many white Democrats are nothing more than cynical opportunists who will play any tune to get into office. Some of them are former left-wing nutters with a few of the old nuts still roasting, like Hillary Clinton. Others, especially the ones ostensibly raised Catholic (often but not always straight-through in Catholic schools!), are pure vultures. Read: the Cuomos, the Kennedys (notwithstanding Ted Kennedy's monomaniacal obsession projects in latter years, but as Fulton J. Sheen said: if you don't live as you believe, you will end up believing in what you live!), Kirsten Gillibrand or Pat Quinn. (Or nearly EVERY prominent white Democratic politician from Illinois in living memory.)

    The cynic types are indeed likely to clash with the grassroots minorities when these latter become too big a nuissance (think the Miriam Oliphant catastrophe in Broward County, Florida), but they are also aware of the delicate territory they tread on. After all, actual, authentic SWPL/hipster electors often genuinely *like* minority candidates simply *because* they are minorities, and yet the cynic types, often (and increasingly) on shaky ground with the minorities, definitely need SWPL votes to win and do not hesitate to play to this constituency, whatever their actual worldview/lifestyle.

    On the ground level the Reagan Democrats, though badly reduced, do still exist, and these are the folk who would most directly clash with minorities. But since their material means are modest and they tend to go Republican at the national level and increasingly (though not necessarily) at the local level, they are mostly held in contempt by the cynics who view them as a nuissance and the minorities and SWPLs who want them (often literally literally) dead, when of course these three groups are not busy confiscating (through crime or public policy) what little the Reagan Democrats do have.

    Democrats tend to view the white working class with indifference at best and contempt at worst. When the big election comes however, suddenly Democrats play somewhat nice with them and the white middle class in order to get votes.

    I know Republicans are generally meh but is their any real reason these days to vote for Dems if your white working class male? What do you gain from it?

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "Democrats tend to view the white working class with indifference at best and contempt at worst."

    The lady that Gordon Brown called "a bigoted woman" during the 2010 UK elections was asked who she was voting for this year. Her answer? Labour.

    A huge chunk of the Democratic Party base has no self-respect whatsoever.
  98. Basically, 32-33% of Marylanders are Black ….

    Really? That many? That’s larger than Tennessee, which is about 23 % black. Maryland is also probably blacker than either of the Carolinas.

  99. @Clyde

    This paragon of anti-White Man hatred is happily married to a White Man……
     
    Its a career decision.

    Paging Amy C…..

  100. Reagan Democrats ..

    Mostly Catholic whites. This group overlaps a lot with union members, including police and firefighter unions.

    … in the last election 50% of single White men apparently voted Democrat

    I don’t trust that. I suspect that many Hispanics are telling pollsters that they’re white.

  101. @Maj. Kong
    Is there a difference between East/SE Asians and South Asians?

    I do recall that the Indian diaspora votes much more D than other Asians, and considers the two GOP ethnically Indian but Christian Governors, to be race traitors.

    Minority voters, which would include East Indians, vote overwhelmingly Labour in the UK.

  102. …This has hurt Republican attempts to woo Asians because most Asians aren’t Christians ..

    But a large minority of East Asian Americans are, especially Koreans.

    Please tell us what points of Christian morality do not appeal to non-Christian East Asian Americans.

    “Asians” … similar to the “Hispanic” rubric … So broad that it is meaningless.

    What are you really trying to say, that Republicans should play up to Hindoos and Muslims?

  103. @Mark
    The Republican party has tried to appeal more to the Christian right in recent years. This has hurt Republican attempts to woo Asians because most Asians aren't Christians and are reluctant to vote for a strongly Christian party. The Republicans could get more Asian votes by espousing socially conservative values in general that both Christians and Asians would like but at the same time not explicitly allying themselves with the Christian religion.

    They vote democrat because they support the lions share of what the democrat party offers. as to the things they don’t like, right now its the cost of doing business, and later they can challenge and perhaps change those things.

  104. The Walmarts are going to have to give people $20.00 an hour …

    While reducing total hourly employee hours worked. It’s a publicity stunt into which you seem to have been suckered, sucker.

    More amusing is Facebook’s announcement that FB is going to pay a $15/hour minimum wage.
    In reality, all FB employees currently make more than that.

  105. @manton
    Calling Angleton a "Mexican-American" as if he were the equivalent of some East LA homeboy is risible. His father was as WASP as they come. He married a Mexican girl while on campaign with Black Jack Pershing. Angleton himself was born in Boise. The old man's money bought a company in Milan, where the young J. Jesus was raised for a time. He was private school all the way, in England, and later at Yale.

    I recommend the book Cold Warrior. Angleton's reputation has risen since that came out, but it's still best one-volume treatment.

    Did Angleton know Ezra pound from idaho?

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Did Angleton know Ezra pound from idaho?
     
    Timeframe argues against it.Pound was born in 1885 and left the state by the age of 18 months:

    Homer and Isabel married the following year, and Homer built for her a home in Hailey.[6] Isabel was unhappy in Hailey and took Ezra with her to New York in 1887 when he was 18 months old.[7] Homer followed and in 1889 found a job as an assayer at the Philadelphia Mint. The family moved to Jenkintown, Pennsylvania and in 1893 bought a six-bedroom house in Wyncote.[6]
     
    Angleton was born 1917.As near as I can tell, their relationship dates from Angleton's time at Yale, when he was editor of Furioso, a literary magazine.
  106. @rod1963
    While white academics are doing their level best to make sure their fellow whites know that their own race is the enemy and source of all evil in the world.

    But wait there's more!!! Every graduate also gets a boat load of debt $50,000 - $200,000.00 that cannot be discharged nor avoided unless they die. Just imagine starting out in life and already hobbled by massive debt. What a wonderful gift by big academia.

    While white academics are doing their level best to make sure their fellow whites know that their own race is the enemy and source of all evil in the world.

    Exactly. For cultural and probably genetic reasons, (East) Asians tend to be strongly socially-conformist. Since all the English Lit-type departments are filled with academics, both white and non-white, who spend much of their time denouncing white culture and white history, the Asians there conform to their role models. However, the overwhelming majority of Asian academics are actually in “real” subjects such as biology, engineering, chemistry, and math, and I’d very much doubt that almost any of them pay attention to such ideological nonsense, being mostly apolitical or vaguely liberal in a restrained way. The problem with “Syon” is that he/she incorrectly extrapolates from all the crazies encountered at English Lit conventions to university academics as a whole or even our entire society.

    Another commenter alluded to the Affirmative Action controversy last year in CA, and that also illustrates my point. As I recall, every single Asian Democrat in the Legislature initially supported reestablishing AA in university admissions and then were totally blindsided by the massive popular uprising among their Asian constituents. So they all immediately did a 180 and the Democratic Party ditched the entire proposal as dangerously divisive. Asian elected officials tend to be socially-conformist and since they hang out in Sacto with all the other liberal Democrats and lobbyists, they just go along with them on most issues.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    The problem with “Syon” is that he/she
     
    MMM, there's an idea.God knows that being a straight cis-man of Jewish-English-Scots ancestry isn't exactly doing my career any good.Maybe I could try pulling a "Mrs Garrison?" After all, these days you don't even need to take hormones and dress like a woman to be taken seriously as transgendered.....

    incorrectly extrapolates from all the crazies encountered at English Lit conventions to university academics as a whole or even our entire society.
     
    Ron you know as well as I do that those English Lit crazies punch above their weight.Same sex marriage was a lunatic fringe position 25 years ago, the kind of thing that was only taken seriously at MLA conferences.Look at it now.

    Another commenter alluded to the Affirmative Action controversy last year in CA, and that also illustrates my point. As I recall, every single Asian Democrat in the Legislature initially supported reestablishing AA in university admissions and then were totally blindsided by the massive popular uprising among their Asian constituents. So they all immediately did a 180 and the Democratic Party ditched the entire proposal as dangerously divisive. Asian elected officials tend to be socially-conformist and since they hang out in Sacto with all the other liberal Democrats and lobbyists, they just go along with them on most issues.
     
    They misplayed their hand.They should have specified in the legislation that only White Anglos would be discriminated against.


    If anyone wants to take the temperature of East Asian Academics, try Ronald Takaki:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Takaki

    Ronald Takaki was raised in a low-income area of Oahu, Hawaii. He was the descendant of Japanese immigrants who worked on the sugar plantations.[2] He was raised by his mother and Chinese stepfather following his father's death at age seven.[3] As a young boy, Takaki cared more for surfing than academics, earning the nickname "10-toes Takaki." During high school a Japanese American teacher, Rev. Shunji Nishi Ph.D[4] encouraged him to pursue college and wrote him a letter of recommendation for the College of Wooster in Wooster, Ohio.[3]

    His undergraduate experiences there caused him to begin asking the kinds of questions which evolved into the foundation of his career.[5] As one of only two Asian Americans on campus, he gained a new awareness of his ethnic identity.[3] He was awarded a bachelor's degree in history in 1961.[6]

    His graduate studies at the University of California, Berkeley led to a Masters degree in 1962 and a Ph.D in American history in 1967.[1] His dissertation was on the subject of American slavery, focusing on the rationale for slavery.[7] This work later became his first book: A Pro-Slavery Crusade: the Agitation to Reopen the African Slave Trade.[8]

    Takaki's personal experiences inspired him to devote his life to working for equality for Asian Americans and others. A seminal event in his life developed when his wife's family refused to accept him because they could only see him as a "jap"—not as a native-born American citizen just like any one else.[5]

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Different_Mirror
  107. … The issue I guess will be can blacks get their underclass voters mobilized for a primary election ..

    They can, if somebody else finances the mobilizing.

  108. … representational exodus …

    I.e., secession.

    … home to Lockheed Martin …

    Home to LM headquarters, conveniently located for Washington lobbying.

    Probably not many technical peepul there at LM hq.

  109. @Truth
    Daniel Inouye. He's a lobbyist for the Pineapple industry now.

    If so, he’s doing his lobbying from the grave.

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=102291389

  110. @Lackawanna
    Blacks are irrelvant in the western half of the country. As the Asian and Hispanic shares grow while the black share stays constant, Asians and Hispanics will increase their power in the Democratic party.

    I'm not buying this idea that black bad behavior will drive other minorities to the GOP. Why hasn't it happened already? After black rioters targeted Asians in 1992, the Asian vote began a long term shift towards the Democrats.

    Why hasn’t it happened already? After black rioters targeted Asians in 1992, the Asian vote began a long term shift towards the Democrats.

    In ’92 blacks targeted Koreans. I live in a community with a large Korean presence. Here they tend to align with the GOP. And, of course, Donald Sterling was criticized for catering to their desire to live separated from blacks.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/9/asian-vote-breaks-for-republicans-in-midterms/?page=all

  111. @The Anti-Gnostic
    in fact she looks a lot like Cassius Clay, or whatever name he goes by these days.

    Welcome, time traveler from the past! He goes by the name Muhammad Ali, as he has since 1964.

    Agree with SPMoore – we are busy men- no time to figure out what crazy Muslim name blacks are coming up with – in my head I call them all Malik Shabazz

  112. @Sunbeam
    Kind of at a loss for words on Citizens United.

    I know that we have had a long history of things like union involvement in politics.

    But with the mechanics of the way the modern world works with media and well advertising expertise, Citizens United seems like one of the last spades of dirt thrown on the comfortable illusion that we have a democracy and an electorate that pays attention.

    The Lincoln/Douglas debates were a long time ago. In what increasingly looks like a foreign country (I think we are well on the way to "Idiocracy").

    Citizens United seems like one of the last spades of dirt thrown on the comfortable illusion that we have a democracy and an electorate that pays attention.

    Odd comment. From a constitutional perspective Citizen’s United is entirely in line with the founder’s intentions. The idea that speech should be restrained if it might influence or that the person funding speech determines whether it should be restrained or not is pathetically stupid if one takes free speech seriously.

    • Replies: @Scotty G. Vito
    That commenter or individual(s) using the trade name has been around the blog years plumping for Campaign Finance Reform aka the Cochran-Conyers Electoral Immortality Act; formerly there was added emphasis on the serious work of this Larry Lessig character from the hard-nosed world of academia (who I take it has been replaced as white-prog heartthrob by Sacheen Littlewarren). Anyway "he" could always be counted on to bring up "money in politics" irrelevantly, even in discussions about Deflategate or movies in which Paul Walker was underutilized
  113. @Jefferson
    "Angry Asian Man" thinks Asians in the U.S who adopt White culture are complete sellouts, but has nothing but praise for Asians in the U.S who adopt Black culture and use lots of Ebonics when they speak. So to him Lucy Liu is a sellout because she acts like a White girl, but Eddie Huang is his hero because he acts like an Asian version of a Wigger.

    Asians in the U.S who adopt Black culture and use lots of Ebonics when they speak.

    For a bizarre example of the type, check out this video of Laura Nyro’s rapper son, half-white half-East Indian, starting at the 1 minute mark. In his defense his mother died when he was a child and he seems to have been raised (somewhat) by her lesbian friends.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    For a bizarre example of the type, check out this video of Laura Nyro’s rapper son, half-white half-East Indian, starting at the 1 minute mark. In his defense his mother died when he was a child and he seems to have been raised (somewhat) by her lesbian friends.

     

    Miss Nyro also suffered from increasingly severe mental illness. It's sad, because when she was still lucid, she could really write a song, and sing it, too. I detest the whole narcissistic "singer-songwriter" cult, but there were a handful who could pull it off. She was one.
    , @Jefferson
    Sometimes there is the occasional crack in the KKK Crazy Glue Alliance against cisgendered Heterosexual White males.

    Here is an article about an Asian guy named Eddie Huang and a Black Lesbian named Mia McKenzie arguing with each other on Twitter over who experiences the most racism in America, Black women or Asian men?
    http://www.racefiles.com/2015/05/07/when-asian-emasculation-meets-misogyny-on-eddie-huangs-black-feminist-problem/


    Cracks in the KKK Crazy Glue are absolutely unacceptable. This needs to be nipped in the bud ASAP.

  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lackawanna
    Blacks are irrelvant in the western half of the country. As the Asian and Hispanic shares grow while the black share stays constant, Asians and Hispanics will increase their power in the Democratic party.

    I'm not buying this idea that black bad behavior will drive other minorities to the GOP. Why hasn't it happened already? After black rioters targeted Asians in 1992, the Asian vote began a long term shift towards the Democrats.

    Hispanics are already a larger percentage of the population than blacks are. The Dems can’t really be the black party because there aren’t enough blacks to rely on black votes alone to win elections at the national level. They’ll need nonblacks to win elections. On the other hand, the Republicans are increasingly the white party because of increasing white discontent and disillusionment. As a result, the Republicans will be limited in how much they can appeal to nonwhites without jeopardizing white support. Presumably, nonwhites will be more reluctant to support the Republicans if they correctly sense that the Republicans are increasingly attracting white support out of discontent and disillusionment. And this reluctance will reinforce this white support for the Republicans. So I imagine the most likely scenario is for the Dems to continue to be a minority coalition party of various nonwhite groups and some whites and for the Republicans to be the white majority party.

  115. @manton
    Calling Angleton a "Mexican-American" as if he were the equivalent of some East LA homeboy is risible. His father was as WASP as they come. He married a Mexican girl while on campaign with Black Jack Pershing. Angleton himself was born in Boise. The old man's money bought a company in Milan, where the young J. Jesus was raised for a time. He was private school all the way, in England, and later at Yale.

    I recommend the book Cold Warrior. Angleton's reputation has risen since that came out, but it's still best one-volume treatment.

    I did not say that he was the equivalent of some mestizo low-rider from East L.A., chico; I said that he was a Mexican-American named James Jesus [pronounced “Hey, Zeus!” not “Geeze, us!”] Angleton Moreno (in his mother’s home country)– and, quess what? He was!

    He was born in Idaho, not in Manhattan or Boston. His father might have been a W.A.S.P., but his mother was a devout Roman Catholic. So was her son. He grew up in Roman Catholic Italy, not in Protestant England, let alone in blue-blood portions of Boston or Manhattan. Being rich and well-bred does not make one any less Mexican, nor any less Roman Catholic. The man was not a W.A.S.P.!

    According to the latter-day American Establishment, James Angleton was a “person of color” simply on the basis of his mother’s birth– and, as such, he himself also was presumed to be “oppressed” by the American majority, as a matter of law, and entitled to certain legal preferences, as recompense for that innate oppression.

    Yet, a decade or so ago, when Mr. De Niro and Mr. Roth put their ethnic and ideological heads together, they turned Mr. Angleton’s colorful and interesting life story into precisely the type of bland “whitebread” story of supposedly unearned Northeastern W.A.S.P. privilege that one would expect to come out of Hollywood’s nightmare factory.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    In double-checking my belief that the late James Jesus Angleton had been raised in his mother's Catholic faith, I was unable to prove or disprove it. I did find his wife's obituary in "The Washington Post" from September 25, 2011:

    ***

    "Cicely Angleton, 89, a poet and history scholar who was the wife of a former CIA director of counterintelligence, James J. Angleton, died Sept. 23 at her home in Great Falls. She had congestive heart failure, according to her daughter Guru Sangat Kaur Khalsa.

    "Mrs. Angleton was married in 1943 and graduated from Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y., in 1947.

    "She and her husband lived in Arlington County for many years. During the summers, they often vacationed in northern Wisconsin, where Mrs. Angleton wrote and directed musical plays for children.

    "She spent the summer of 1962 in southern France, where she studied the Cathars, a breakaway medieval sect of the Catholic Church. She devoted many years to studying the group and received a doctorate in medieval history from Catholic University in 1984.

    "After her husband’s death in 1987, Mrs. Angleton became a widely published poet, with several volumes of poetry. Many of her poems had a wry, humorous edge. She was interviewed for a Library of Congress series of podcasts called 'The Poet and the Poem.'

    "Cicely Harriet d’Autremont was born in Duluth, Minn., and grew up in Tucson.

    "She was a member of Rock Spring Congregational United Church of Christ in Arlington and often attended Washington-area gatherings of Radha Soami Satsang Beas, a meditative and spiritual group. She was also a longtime participant in programs of the Writer’s Center in Bethesda.

    "Survivors include three children, James C. Angleton of Los Angeles, Guru Sangat Kaur Khalsa of Great Falls and Siri Hari Kaur Angleton-Khalsa of Espanola, N.M.; two grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren."

    ***

    Whether her interest in the Cathars sprang from her own husband's religious background, I certainly do not know. Regardless, she and her husband both are buried in the same cemetery as his parents, in Boise, Idaho.
    , @syonredux

    He grew up in Roman Catholic Italy, not in Protestant England, let alone in blue-blood portions of Boston or Manhattan.
     
    Well, he did go to boarding school in England. Malvern College, CS Lewis's old school (he called it "Wyvern" in Surprised by Joy) :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvern_College

    And, of course, he was a Yale man, and, while an undergrad, carried out epistolary relationships with Eliot, Ezra Pound (a fellow Idahoan) , and EE Cummings.


    The reason why they dropped the Mexican mother from the backstory of his Good Shepherd doppelganger is because it goes against the narrative.Racist WASPs would never allow someone with a Mexican mother to attend Yale, let alone join the OSS (the joke in Washington went that the initials actually stood for Oh So Social).The same thing was done in A Beautiful Mind, where Alicia Lopez-Harrison de Lardé's (Nash's wife;played in the film by Jennifer Connelly) Salvadoran background goes unmentioned.Why? Because everyone knows that MIT (her alma mater) was closed to Hispanics in the '50s....


    The narrative needs to be protected.
  116. @Dew
    Democrats tend to view the white working class with indifference at best and contempt at worst. When the big election comes however, suddenly Democrats play somewhat nice with them and the white middle class in order to get votes.

    I know Republicans are generally meh but is their any real reason these days to vote for Dems if your white working class male? What do you gain from it?

    “Democrats tend to view the white working class with indifference at best and contempt at worst.”

    The lady that Gordon Brown called “a bigoted woman” during the 2010 UK elections was asked who she was voting for this year. Her answer? Labour.

    A huge chunk of the Democratic Party base has no self-respect whatsoever.

    • Replies: @Curle

    The lady that Gordon Brown called “a bigoted woman” during the 2010 UK elections was asked who she was voting for this year. Her answer? Labour.
     
    Yes, but a significant percentage of her former labourite colleagues voted UKIP or SNP this year. Here's a former Labour minister's analysis.

    Labour this time got “squeezed by two nationalisms,” as Labour grandee and former strategist Peter Mandelson said, by the Scottish National Party and by English nationalism, not just by the Conservatives but in the form of a strong U.K. Independence Party vote in northern England. The anti-immigration, anti-European Union UKIP hurt the Conservatives in the south, but it had a big impact among Labour voters in the north, and was the main reason that Labour’s shadow chancellor, Ed Balls, lost his seat in Leeds to the Tories.

    Labour needs to respond to members’ unease about immigration and the European Union, which requires freedom of movement and labor among its member states. On these issues, this time, Labour had little to say, acknowledging Blair-era laxness but simply arguing that European Union membership was a good thing and there had to be more control over immigration, without specifying how.
     

    , @Nico
    I should have mentioned that among former Reagan Democrats, one will count a few Democratic reverts - this does describe a few of the people I know from having grown up in Rochester, New York. Your point about having "no self-respect whatsoever" certainly applies to their ethnic consciousness, which has been destroyed by several decades of public school brainwashing. (New York, of course, is one of those states whose school curriculum has been most heavily influenced by John Dewey and his intellectual descendants.)

    Beyond the existential question, then, there is little reason for them to vote Republican (although as you point out the GOP is still out there as to whether to exploit the race card, which of course they should because they have little else in the way of attractive to play). The de-industrialization that followed their acquiescence to neoliberalism has hurt them more than anyone else in the country. They have to feel extremely betrayed.
  117. @D. K.
    I did not say that he was the equivalent of some mestizo low-rider from East L.A., chico; I said that he was a Mexican-American named James Jesus [pronounced "Hey, Zeus!" not "Geeze, us!"] Angleton Moreno (in his mother's home country)-- and, quess what? He was!

    He was born in Idaho, not in Manhattan or Boston. His father might have been a W.A.S.P., but his mother was a devout Roman Catholic. So was her son. He grew up in Roman Catholic Italy, not in Protestant England, let alone in blue-blood portions of Boston or Manhattan. Being rich and well-bred does not make one any less Mexican, nor any less Roman Catholic. The man was not a W.A.S.P.!

    According to the latter-day American Establishment, James Angleton was a "person of color" simply on the basis of his mother's birth-- and, as such, he himself also was presumed to be "oppressed" by the American majority, as a matter of law, and entitled to certain legal preferences, as recompense for that innate oppression.

    Yet, a decade or so ago, when Mr. De Niro and Mr. Roth put their ethnic and ideological heads together, they turned Mr. Angleton's colorful and interesting life story into precisely the type of bland "whitebread" story of supposedly unearned Northeastern W.A.S.P. privilege that one would expect to come out of Hollywood's nightmare factory.

    In double-checking my belief that the late James Jesus Angleton had been raised in his mother’s Catholic faith, I was unable to prove or disprove it. I did find his wife’s obituary in “The Washington Post” from September 25, 2011:

    ***

    “Cicely Angleton, 89, a poet and history scholar who was the wife of a former CIA director of counterintelligence, James J. Angleton, died Sept. 23 at her home in Great Falls. She had congestive heart failure, according to her daughter Guru Sangat Kaur Khalsa.

    “Mrs. Angleton was married in 1943 and graduated from Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y., in 1947.

    “She and her husband lived in Arlington County for many years. During the summers, they often vacationed in northern Wisconsin, where Mrs. Angleton wrote and directed musical plays for children.

    “She spent the summer of 1962 in southern France, where she studied the Cathars, a breakaway medieval sect of the Catholic Church. She devoted many years to studying the group and received a doctorate in medieval history from Catholic University in 1984.

    “After her husband’s death in 1987, Mrs. Angleton became a widely published poet, with several volumes of poetry. Many of her poems had a wry, humorous edge. She was interviewed for a Library of Congress series of podcasts called ‘The Poet and the Poem.’

    “Cicely Harriet d’Autremont was born in Duluth, Minn., and grew up in Tucson.

    “She was a member of Rock Spring Congregational United Church of Christ in Arlington and often attended Washington-area gatherings of Radha Soami Satsang Beas, a meditative and spiritual group. She was also a longtime participant in programs of the Writer’s Center in Bethesda.

    “Survivors include three children, James C. Angleton of Los Angeles, Guru Sangat Kaur Khalsa of Great Falls and Siri Hari Kaur Angleton-Khalsa of Espanola, N.M.; two grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren.”

    ***

    Whether her interest in the Cathars sprang from her own husband’s religious background, I certainly do not know. Regardless, she and her husband both are buried in the same cemetery as his parents, in Boise, Idaho.

  118. @Wilkey
    "Democrats tend to view the white working class with indifference at best and contempt at worst."

    The lady that Gordon Brown called "a bigoted woman" during the 2010 UK elections was asked who she was voting for this year. Her answer? Labour.

    A huge chunk of the Democratic Party base has no self-respect whatsoever.

    The lady that Gordon Brown called “a bigoted woman” during the 2010 UK elections was asked who she was voting for this year. Her answer? Labour.

    Yes, but a significant percentage of her former labourite colleagues voted UKIP or SNP this year. Here’s a former Labour minister’s analysis.

    Labour this time got “squeezed by two nationalisms,” as Labour grandee and former strategist Peter Mandelson said, by the Scottish National Party and by English nationalism, not just by the Conservatives but in the form of a strong U.K. Independence Party vote in northern England. The anti-immigration, anti-European Union UKIP hurt the Conservatives in the south, but it had a big impact among Labour voters in the north, and was the main reason that Labour’s shadow chancellor, Ed Balls, lost his seat in Leeds to the Tories.

    Labour needs to respond to members’ unease about immigration and the European Union, which requires freedom of movement and labor among its member states. On these issues, this time, Labour had little to say, acknowledging Blair-era laxness but simply arguing that European Union membership was a good thing and there had to be more control over immigration, without specifying how.

  119. @Brother John
    Even if that were a logical stance, it's no more remarkable than a blind pig finding a truffle once in a while.

    Even if that were a logical stance, it’s no more remarkable than a blind pig finding a truffle once in a while.

    Truffle hogs use their snouts, not their eyes. Blindness would be a minor handicap to truffling.

    Perhaps Rep Edwards has good political olfactory. European explorers thought African chieftains dumb as rocks, but did note their keen sense of who among strangers held the power.

  120. @Curle

    Asians in the U.S who adopt Black culture and use lots of Ebonics when they speak.
     
    For a bizarre example of the type, check out this video of Laura Nyro's rapper son, half-white half-East Indian, starting at the 1 minute mark. In his defense his mother died when he was a child and he seems to have been raised (somewhat) by her lesbian friends.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4XbhAqpSMQ

    For a bizarre example of the type, check out this video of Laura Nyro’s rapper son, half-white half-East Indian, starting at the 1 minute mark. In his defense his mother died when he was a child and he seems to have been raised (somewhat) by her lesbian friends.

    Miss Nyro also suffered from increasingly severe mental illness. It’s sad, because when she was still lucid, she could really write a song, and sing it, too. I detest the whole narcissistic “singer-songwriter” cult, but there were a handful who could pull it off. She was one.

  121. @D. K.
    I did not say that he was the equivalent of some mestizo low-rider from East L.A., chico; I said that he was a Mexican-American named James Jesus [pronounced "Hey, Zeus!" not "Geeze, us!"] Angleton Moreno (in his mother's home country)-- and, quess what? He was!

    He was born in Idaho, not in Manhattan or Boston. His father might have been a W.A.S.P., but his mother was a devout Roman Catholic. So was her son. He grew up in Roman Catholic Italy, not in Protestant England, let alone in blue-blood portions of Boston or Manhattan. Being rich and well-bred does not make one any less Mexican, nor any less Roman Catholic. The man was not a W.A.S.P.!

    According to the latter-day American Establishment, James Angleton was a "person of color" simply on the basis of his mother's birth-- and, as such, he himself also was presumed to be "oppressed" by the American majority, as a matter of law, and entitled to certain legal preferences, as recompense for that innate oppression.

    Yet, a decade or so ago, when Mr. De Niro and Mr. Roth put their ethnic and ideological heads together, they turned Mr. Angleton's colorful and interesting life story into precisely the type of bland "whitebread" story of supposedly unearned Northeastern W.A.S.P. privilege that one would expect to come out of Hollywood's nightmare factory.

    He grew up in Roman Catholic Italy, not in Protestant England, let alone in blue-blood portions of Boston or Manhattan.

    Well, he did go to boarding school in England. Malvern College, CS Lewis’s old school (he called it “Wyvern” in Surprised by Joy) :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvern_College

    And, of course, he was a Yale man, and, while an undergrad, carried out epistolary relationships with Eliot, Ezra Pound (a fellow Idahoan) , and EE Cummings.

    The reason why they dropped the Mexican mother from the backstory of his Good Shepherd doppelganger is because it goes against the narrative.Racist WASPs would never allow someone with a Mexican mother to attend Yale, let alone join the OSS (the joke in Washington went that the initials actually stood for Oh So Social).The same thing was done in A Beautiful Mind, where Alicia Lopez-Harrison de Lardé’s (Nash’s wife;played in the film by Jennifer Connelly) Salvadoran background goes unmentioned.Why? Because everyone knows that MIT (her alma mater) was closed to Hispanics in the ’50s….

    The narrative needs to be protected.

  122. @Steve Sailer
    Did Angleton know Ezra pound from idaho?

    Did Angleton know Ezra pound from idaho?

    Timeframe argues against it.Pound was born in 1885 and left the state by the age of 18 months:

    Homer and Isabel married the following year, and Homer built for her a home in Hailey.[6] Isabel was unhappy in Hailey and took Ezra with her to New York in 1887 when he was 18 months old.[7] Homer followed and in 1889 found a job as an assayer at the Philadelphia Mint. The family moved to Jenkintown, Pennsylvania and in 1893 bought a six-bedroom house in Wyncote.[6]

    Angleton was born 1917.As near as I can tell, their relationship dates from Angleton’s time at Yale, when he was editor of Furioso, a literary magazine.

  123. @Steve Sailer
    "Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks."

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    Razib Khan pointed out a while ago that the number of Christian Asians has been going down. Apparently Christian Asians are more likely to vote GOP, and conversely — the same as with white people.

    This was before the recent Pew study that found fewer [nominal] Christians in America now.

  124. @Ron Unz

    While white academics are doing their level best to make sure their fellow whites know that their own race is the enemy and source of all evil in the world.
     
    Exactly. For cultural and probably genetic reasons, (East) Asians tend to be strongly socially-conformist. Since all the English Lit-type departments are filled with academics, both white and non-white, who spend much of their time denouncing white culture and white history, the Asians there conform to their role models. However, the overwhelming majority of Asian academics are actually in "real" subjects such as biology, engineering, chemistry, and math, and I'd very much doubt that almost any of them pay attention to such ideological nonsense, being mostly apolitical or vaguely liberal in a restrained way. The problem with "Syon" is that he/she incorrectly extrapolates from all the crazies encountered at English Lit conventions to university academics as a whole or even our entire society.

    Another commenter alluded to the Affirmative Action controversy last year in CA, and that also illustrates my point. As I recall, every single Asian Democrat in the Legislature initially supported reestablishing AA in university admissions and then were totally blindsided by the massive popular uprising among their Asian constituents. So they all immediately did a 180 and the Democratic Party ditched the entire proposal as dangerously divisive. Asian elected officials tend to be socially-conformist and since they hang out in Sacto with all the other liberal Democrats and lobbyists, they just go along with them on most issues.

    The problem with “Syon” is that he/she

    MMM, there’s an idea.God knows that being a straight cis-man of Jewish-English-Scots ancestry isn’t exactly doing my career any good.Maybe I could try pulling a “Mrs Garrison?” After all, these days you don’t even need to take hormones and dress like a woman to be taken seriously as transgendered…..

    incorrectly extrapolates from all the crazies encountered at English Lit conventions to university academics as a whole or even our entire society.

    Ron you know as well as I do that those English Lit crazies punch above their weight.Same sex marriage was a lunatic fringe position 25 years ago, the kind of thing that was only taken seriously at MLA conferences.Look at it now.

    Another commenter alluded to the Affirmative Action controversy last year in CA, and that also illustrates my point. As I recall, every single Asian Democrat in the Legislature initially supported reestablishing AA in university admissions and then were totally blindsided by the massive popular uprising among their Asian constituents. So they all immediately did a 180 and the Democratic Party ditched the entire proposal as dangerously divisive. Asian elected officials tend to be socially-conformist and since they hang out in Sacto with all the other liberal Democrats and lobbyists, they just go along with them on most issues.

    They misplayed their hand.They should have specified in the legislation that only White Anglos would be discriminated against.

    If anyone wants to take the temperature of East Asian Academics, try Ronald Takaki:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Takaki

    Ronald Takaki was raised in a low-income area of Oahu, Hawaii. He was the descendant of Japanese immigrants who worked on the sugar plantations.[2] He was raised by his mother and Chinese stepfather following his father’s death at age seven.[3] As a young boy, Takaki cared more for surfing than academics, earning the nickname “10-toes Takaki.” During high school a Japanese American teacher, Rev. Shunji Nishi Ph.D[4] encouraged him to pursue college and wrote him a letter of recommendation for the College of Wooster in Wooster, Ohio.[3]

    His undergraduate experiences there caused him to begin asking the kinds of questions which evolved into the foundation of his career.[5] As one of only two Asian Americans on campus, he gained a new awareness of his ethnic identity.[3] He was awarded a bachelor’s degree in history in 1961.[6]

    His graduate studies at the University of California, Berkeley led to a Masters degree in 1962 and a Ph.D in American history in 1967.[1] His dissertation was on the subject of American slavery, focusing on the rationale for slavery.[7] This work later became his first book: A Pro-Slavery Crusade: the Agitation to Reopen the African Slave Trade.[8]

    Takaki’s personal experiences inspired him to devote his life to working for equality for Asian Americans and others. A seminal event in his life developed when his wife’s family refused to accept him because they could only see him as a “jap”—not as a native-born American citizen just like any one else.[5]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Different_Mirror

  125. Angleton miscellany:

    How did he pronounce his middle name anyway? His mother, presumably, used the Spanish mode, but what of the man himself? The evidence that I’ve seen is contradictory.Mailer, in Harlot’s Ghost, has a character pronounce it Spanish style, but that seems to be for needling purposes.

    Angleton seems to have picked up something of an RP accent while at Malvern. According to various sources, he maintained it for a couple of years at Yale before the Idaho and Ohio in his voice re-asserted themselves.

    Natty dresser. Savile Row bespoke suits.Wore them even in the hottest weather.

    In his correspondence, sometimes playfully signed his name “Jeem,” presumably in imitation of his mother’s way of addressing him.

  126. Nevermind Angleton, the wartime head of the OSS, the precursor to the CIA, was an Irishman named William “Wild Bill” Donovan. Donovan is referred to as the “Father of American Intelligence” and the “Father of Central Intelligence”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Donovan

  127. D. K. says:
    @manton
    Calling Angleton a "Mexican-American" as if he were the equivalent of some East LA homeboy is risible. His father was as WASP as they come. He married a Mexican girl while on campaign with Black Jack Pershing. Angleton himself was born in Boise. The old man's money bought a company in Milan, where the young J. Jesus was raised for a time. He was private school all the way, in England, and later at Yale.

    I recommend the book Cold Warrior. Angleton's reputation has risen since that came out, but it's still best one-volume treatment.

    This is the early portion of his biography, from the Spartacus Educational Web site:

    ***

    James Jesus Angleton was born in Boise, Idaho, on 9th December, 1917. His father, Hugh Angleton, was a former cavalry officer who met his wife, a seventeen-year-old Mexican woman, Carmen Mercedes Moreno, while serving in Mexico, under General John J. Pershing. (1)

    Hugh Angleton was an executive of the National Cash Register Company. (2) Thomas McCoy, a family friend, described him as “a six-foot-four, raw-boned, red-faced farm boy; a broad super-friendly guy, who was the outgoing salesman type and a born trader. He and his son were as different as one can imagine.” (3)

    Carmen Mercedes Moreno was a devout Catholic who insisted on giving him the name of Jesus. “As he grew older he became proud of his Mexican background – but, at the beginning, no. He never liked to use his middle name… Who likes to go around with a middle name of Jesus?” (4)

    In 1931 Hugh Angleton moved his family to Milan, for business reasons. He was very impressed with Benito Mussolini and his friend, Max Corvo, commented “Hugh Angleton… was ultra-conservative, a sympathizer with Fascist officials. He was certainly not unfriendly with the Fascists.” (5) In 1933 Angleton was sent to Malvern College. (6) “He learned all about snobbery, prejudice, and school beatings. Before he left three years later he had served as a prefect, a corporal in the Officers’ Training Corps, and joined the Old Malvern Society. He seems to have become more English than the English, a useful ruse perhaps for Malvern’s lone half-Mexican Yank.” (7) Angleton later recalled: “I was brought up in England in one of my formative years and I must confess that I learned, at least I was disciplined to learn, certain features of life, and what I regarded as duty.” (8)

    James Jesus Angleton entered Yale University in 1937: “Angleton had already developed a distinctive personal style. He spoke with a slight English accent (probably not an affection after three years in the country), and was tall, athletic, bright, and handsome… By conventional standards he was a poor student, frequently missing class, excelling only in those subjects that interested him, and occasionally failing those that didn’t.” (9) A fellow student, Reed Whittemore, later commented: “All through Yale, Jim was backward at completing school papers… It may be that he was just lazy – or maybe he had a psychological problem. He had the class record for incompletes, but he could invariably whitewash over these missing grades because he had a favorable presence with the teachers, who for the most part liked him a lot.” (10)

    Angleton and Whittemore edited a quarterly of original poetry, called Furioso, financed mostly by subscriptions raised by Whittemore’s aunt. Angleton and Whittemore were both promising poets and other contributors included Archibald MacLeish, Ezra Pound, E.E. Cummings and William Carlos Williams. Whittemore later commented: “When we were short of money, which was most of the tune, we paid off our poets with fine Italian cravats from the stock that the Angleton haberdasher in Italy kept replenishing.” (11)

    In the autumn of 1941 Angleton moved on to Harvard Law School. Soon afterwards he met Cicely Harriet d’Autremont: “There was nothing in the room except a large reproduction of El Greco’s View of Toledo. It showed a huge unearthly green sky. Jim was standing underneath the picture. If anything went together, it was him and the picture. I fell madly in love at first sight. I’d never met anyone like him in my life. He was so charismatic. It was as if the lightning in the picture had suddenly struck me. He had an El Greco face. It was extraordinary.” (12) They became engaged in April 1943, a few weeks after Angleton had been drafted into the United States Army. Hugh Angleton, disapproved of the relationship but the wedding took place quietly three months later on 17th July, in Battle Creek, Michigan. (13)

    James Hugh Angleton became a senior figure in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and was on the staff of Colonel William Donovan. It had been created by President Franklin D. Roosevelt soon after the outbreak of the Second World War. The OSS replaced the former American intelligence system, Office of the Coordinator of Information (OCI) that was considered to be ineffective. The OSS had responsibility for collecting and analyzing information about countries at war with the United States. It also helped to organize guerrilla fighting, sabotage and espionage.

    In August 1944, Lieutenant Colonel James Hugh Angleton and Norman Holmes Pearson, Angleton’s former English professor at Yale University, contacted James R. Murphy, the head of the new X-2 CI (Counter Intelligence) branch of the OSS. On 25th September, 1943, Murphy issued a memo: “I would greatly appreciate it if you could get provisional security for Corporal James Angleton in order that he may commence OSS school on Monday. His father is with this branch… In addition young Angleton is very well known to Norman Pearson, who recommended him to me.” (14)

    During his training James Jesus Angleton met Richard Helms, the former national advertising manager of the Indianapolis Times, who had joined the OSS in August 1943. In his autobiography, A Look Over My Shoulder (2003) he commented: “As a young man, Jim was bone thin, gaunt, and aggressively intellectual in aspect. His not entirely coincidental resemblance to T. S. Eliot was intensified by a European wardrobe, studious manner, heavy glasses, and lifelong interest in poetry.” (15)

    ***

    (1) Charles J.V. Murphy, Time Magazine (24th February, 1975)

    (2) David Wise, Molehunt (1992) page 40

    (3) Thomas McCoy, interviewed by Jeff Goldberg (28th April, 1988)

    (4) Cicely Angleton, interviewed by Tom Mangold (30th May, 1988)

    (5) Max Corvo, interviewed by Jeff Goldberg (17th February, 1988)

    (6) Stephen Engelberg, New York Times (12th May, 1987)

    (7) Tom Mangold, Cold Warrior: James Jesus Angleton: The CIA’s Master Spy Hunter (1991) page 34

    (8) James Jesus Angleton, interview in the television programme, This Week (November, 1976)

    (9) Tom Mangold, Cold Warrior: James Jesus Angleton: The CIA’s Master Spy Hunter (1991) page 34

    (10) Reed Whittemore, interviewed by Tom Mangold (6th June, 1988)

    (11) Charles J.V. Murphy, Time Magazine (24th February, 1975)

    (12) Cicely Angleton, interviewed by Tom Mangold (30th May, 1988)

    (13) Tom Mangold, Cold Warrior: James Jesus Angleton: The CIA’s Master Spy Hunter (1991) page 37

    (14) James R. Murphy, Office of Strategic Services memo (25th September, 1943)

    (15) Richard Helms, A Look Over My Shoulder (2003) page 153

    ***

    http://spartacus-educational.com/SSangleton.htm

    ***

    Here is his father’s page at Find a Grave:

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7256026

    ***

    Hugh Angleton hardly seems to have been a haute W.A.S.P. of the Northeatern variety….

  128. @Maj. Kong
    Is there a difference between East/SE Asians and South Asians?

    I do recall that the Indian diaspora votes much more D than other Asians, and considers the two GOP ethnically Indian but Christian Governors, to be race traitors.

    Contrary to Gandhi & Nehru & all that, S. Asians are far less ideologically rigid and thus, more “pragmatic” than E. Asians, who will gladly leap forward onto millenarian psycho progressive undertakings if the wind gales that way. There is a counterfactual HBD meme going around — no doubt weabo-inspired via the yellow-fever set — that inside every E. Asian is a WN just dying to get out. Judge this against the historical record of their native cultures; or to put it in more traditional political terminology they earn like Episcopalians (or at least Methodists) but vote like Peoples Temple communards.

  129. @Curle

    Citizens United seems like one of the last spades of dirt thrown on the comfortable illusion that we have a democracy and an electorate that pays attention.
     
    Odd comment. From a constitutional perspective Citizen's United is entirely in line with the founder's intentions. The idea that speech should be restrained if it might influence or that the person funding speech determines whether it should be restrained or not is pathetically stupid if one takes free speech seriously.

    That commenter or individual(s) using the trade name has been around the blog years plumping for Campaign Finance Reform aka the Cochran-Conyers Electoral Immortality Act; formerly there was added emphasis on the serious work of this Larry Lessig character from the hard-nosed world of academia (who I take it has been replaced as white-prog heartthrob by Sacheen Littlewarren). Anyway “he” could always be counted on to bring up “money in politics” irrelevantly, even in discussions about Deflategate or movies in which Paul Walker was underutilized

  130. @Bob Arctor
    "I seem to recall another nonwhite Democrat in the Senate a few years back."

    Yeah Harry, it's pretty damn obvious. Think about it for a moment.

    Okay, mea culpa, temporary caffeine deficiency, early-onset Alzheimer’s, etc. Next time I ask a dumb question I’ll go with the anonymous handle.

  131. @Curle

    Asians in the U.S who adopt Black culture and use lots of Ebonics when they speak.
     
    For a bizarre example of the type, check out this video of Laura Nyro's rapper son, half-white half-East Indian, starting at the 1 minute mark. In his defense his mother died when he was a child and he seems to have been raised (somewhat) by her lesbian friends.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4XbhAqpSMQ

    Sometimes there is the occasional crack in the KKK Crazy Glue Alliance against cisgendered Heterosexual White males.

    Here is an article about an Asian guy named Eddie Huang and a Black Lesbian named Mia McKenzie arguing with each other on Twitter over who experiences the most racism in America, Black women or Asian men?
    http://www.racefiles.com/2015/05/07/when-asian-emasculation-meets-misogyny-on-eddie-huangs-black-feminist-problem/

    Cracks in the KKK Crazy Glue are absolutely unacceptable. This needs to be nipped in the bud ASAP.

  132. @Anonymous
    Prince George's County is often described as affluent in the national media, but in the DC area it's considered the worst part and a place to avoid, not simply because it's not as affluent as the national media portrays it, but because it has high crime rates and is considered the most dangerous part of the DC area.

    “Prince George’s County is often described as affluent in the national media, but in the DC area it’s considered the worst part and a place to avoid, not simply because it’s not as affluent as the national media portrays it, but because it has high crime rates and is considered the most dangerous part of the DC area.”

    I have read on the internet that the reason Prince George’s County has such a high crime rate is because a lot of the Black underclass from Baltimore and Washington D.C have migrated there. I read that it is a class integrated County where it is the norm for middle class Black households to live within walking distance to the housing projects and Section 8 housing. In other words there is little to no residential class segregation between middle class Blacks and the Black underclass in PG County. They all live within very close proximity to each other. So a Black household in PG County could be earning $80 thousand dollars a year for example, yet still live in a neighborhood that has 3rd world levels of crime.

    You rarely see this among Whites, where middle class/upper middle class Whites live within walking distance of the Black underclass or the White underclass.

    • Replies: @Curle

    You rarely see this among Whites, where middle class/upper middle class Whites live within walking distance of the Black underclass or the White underclass.
     
    Proximity between the two is common in small towns, they have no other choice. But, you are touching on a topic raised in another thread; are there any urban white poor anymore (aside from isolated pockets) or are they mostly living in poorer suburbs and rural areas? In the past, in urban areas with large white populations, you'd have a fair population of urban poor living at a distance from the wealthier whites. Suburbs were where you found the middle class and some of the rich with a smattering of lower income. And rural areas have always had poor whites and a smattering of middle class and less frequently, rich.

    Today it seems poor whites have abandoned many cities for poor suburbs though there are still places like Tacoma, WA, heavy with whites who are of moderate income.
    , @Bill
    There is a trailer park within a mile or two of very many McMansion neighborhoods. Cause those are built on farms. Every developing exurb is this way.
  133. Unsolved Mystery.
    When the hell did Democrats get changed from Red to Blue? Answer: between the 1980 and 1984 elections. Check the election results on YouTube to verify.
    How did it happen? Well, that’s a mystery, but it happened all at once, in the whole media spectrum.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The custom was to change the blue-red affiliation every four years, but then it got permanently stuck with thelong 2000 election aftermath.
  134. Nico says:
    @Wilkey
    "Democrats tend to view the white working class with indifference at best and contempt at worst."

    The lady that Gordon Brown called "a bigoted woman" during the 2010 UK elections was asked who she was voting for this year. Her answer? Labour.

    A huge chunk of the Democratic Party base has no self-respect whatsoever.

    I should have mentioned that among former Reagan Democrats, one will count a few Democratic reverts – this does describe a few of the people I know from having grown up in Rochester, New York. Your point about having “no self-respect whatsoever” certainly applies to their ethnic consciousness, which has been destroyed by several decades of public school brainwashing. (New York, of course, is one of those states whose school curriculum has been most heavily influenced by John Dewey and his intellectual descendants.)

    Beyond the existential question, then, there is little reason for them to vote Republican (although as you point out the GOP is still out there as to whether to exploit the race card, which of course they should because they have little else in the way of attractive to play). The de-industrialization that followed their acquiescence to neoliberalism has hurt them more than anyone else in the country. They have to feel extremely betrayed.

  135. @robt
    Unsolved Mystery.
    When the hell did Democrats get changed from Red to Blue? Answer: between the 1980 and 1984 elections. Check the election results on YouTube to verify.
    How did it happen? Well, that's a mystery, but it happened all at once, in the whole media spectrum.

    The custom was to change the blue-red affiliation every four years, but then it got permanently stuck with thelong 2000 election aftermath.

  136. @Steve Sailer
    "Asians definitely resent whites less than they fear and loathe blacks."

    A lot of people in the media are working daily on changing that.

    Maybe. But one knockout game is worth a thousand Slant-eyed Justice Warriors.

    It doesn’t help that many of these Margaret Cho-types are Margaret Cho-types; I’m guessing Asians don’t get too enthused over shrill/pugnacious homosexuals purporting to represent them. Or at least as ‘enthused’ as any other race or ethne would be, race-traitors and tikkun olammers notwithstanding.

  137. @Jefferson
    "Prince George’s County is often described as affluent in the national media, but in the DC area it’s considered the worst part and a place to avoid, not simply because it’s not as affluent as the national media portrays it, but because it has high crime rates and is considered the most dangerous part of the DC area."

    I have read on the internet that the reason Prince George's County has such a high crime rate is because a lot of the Black underclass from Baltimore and Washington D.C have migrated there. I read that it is a class integrated County where it is the norm for middle class Black households to live within walking distance to the housing projects and Section 8 housing. In other words there is little to no residential class segregation between middle class Blacks and the Black underclass in PG County. They all live within very close proximity to each other. So a Black household in PG County could be earning $80 thousand dollars a year for example, yet still live in a neighborhood that has 3rd world levels of crime.

    You rarely see this among Whites, where middle class/upper middle class Whites live within walking distance of the Black underclass or the White underclass.

    You rarely see this among Whites, where middle class/upper middle class Whites live within walking distance of the Black underclass or the White underclass.

    Proximity between the two is common in small towns, they have no other choice. But, you are touching on a topic raised in another thread; are there any urban white poor anymore (aside from isolated pockets) or are they mostly living in poorer suburbs and rural areas? In the past, in urban areas with large white populations, you’d have a fair population of urban poor living at a distance from the wealthier whites. Suburbs were where you found the middle class and some of the rich with a smattering of lower income. And rural areas have always had poor whites and a smattering of middle class and less frequently, rich.

    Today it seems poor whites have abandoned many cities for poor suburbs though there are still places like Tacoma, WA, heavy with whites who are of moderate income.

  138. @Jefferson
    "Prince George’s County is often described as affluent in the national media, but in the DC area it’s considered the worst part and a place to avoid, not simply because it’s not as affluent as the national media portrays it, but because it has high crime rates and is considered the most dangerous part of the DC area."

    I have read on the internet that the reason Prince George's County has such a high crime rate is because a lot of the Black underclass from Baltimore and Washington D.C have migrated there. I read that it is a class integrated County where it is the norm for middle class Black households to live within walking distance to the housing projects and Section 8 housing. In other words there is little to no residential class segregation between middle class Blacks and the Black underclass in PG County. They all live within very close proximity to each other. So a Black household in PG County could be earning $80 thousand dollars a year for example, yet still live in a neighborhood that has 3rd world levels of crime.

    You rarely see this among Whites, where middle class/upper middle class Whites live within walking distance of the Black underclass or the White underclass.

    There is a trailer park within a mile or two of very many McMansion neighborhoods. Cause those are built on farms. Every developing exurb is this way.

  139. @iffen
    I do see comments that mention Jews because the commenter has Jews on the brain. What I couldn't understand is why IJ, assuming he is Jewish, would do the same.

    He previously stated that this site was anti-Semitic and I asked for specific instances (other than comments) and he did not respond.
    • Replies: @iffen
    You have not explained how this piece is anti-Semitic.

    I do have a question in my mind as to how many times one can point out the Jewish origin of people before it becomes something else.

    However, Weiner brought the Jewishness into the picture, not Steve. He is writing about the contradiction between what Weiner believes and some relevant personal history of his (Weiner’s).

    If I ask about the differing treatment of say “The Jim Jones Story” as opposed to “Masada” when the underlying premises are the same that does not make me anti-Semitic.

    Steve is being especially heavy handed in censoring comments to this thread, while letting the jewish apologists run free.

    @Is Steve Sailer a Jewish troublemaker? | Neoreactive
     
    I think you have already decided about Steve and you ignore the information that does not confirm your opinion.

    Serious question. Explain exactly how this piece is anti-Semitic.
  140. @International Jew
    We had to wait only four days:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/matthew-weiner-explains-mad-men-is-about-white-power/#comment-951235

    You have not explained how this piece is anti-Semitic.

    I do have a question in my mind as to how many times one can point out the Jewish origin of people before it becomes something else.

    However, Weiner brought the Jewishness into the picture, not Steve. He is writing about the contradiction between what Weiner believes and some relevant personal history of his (Weiner’s).

    If I ask about the differing treatment of say “The Jim Jones Story” as opposed to “Masada” when the underlying premises are the same that does not make me anti-Semitic.

    Steve is being especially heavy handed in censoring comments to this thread, while letting the jewish apologists run free.

    @Is Steve Sailer a Jewish troublemaker? | Neoreactive

    I think you have already decided about Steve and you ignore the information that does not confirm your opinion.

    Serious question. Explain exactly how this piece is anti-Semitic.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    When I said "we only needed to wait four days" I was responding to a commenter (maybe not you) who claimed Steve doesn't write about Jews much, that it's just the commenters who constantly bring up Jews. So there you go: yet another piece reflecting Steve's considerable interest in everything Jewish.

    At the same time, you've got me wrong if you think I'm here to sling accusations and whine about antisemitism the way others use "racism" as an all-purpose argument-ender. Steve's not Jewish and I don't expect him to love us. I suspect he's about average in the degree of his affection for us.

    He does write a lot about us, and I don't even hold that per se against him; frankly, there is a lot that's interesting about us and I can't be surprised that a curious and intelligent non-Jew thinks so too. So when you see me objecting, it's not because I'm offended (the way black people and their champions are) that an outsider dares talk about us at all without sticking to the narrow scripts and vocabulary that are approved. When I object, it's just that I think he's wrong. Now sometimes "wrong" means being off on his facts or (IMO) his interpretations. But at other times "wrong" is holding us to standards to which he does not hold non-Jews.

  141. @iffen
    You have not explained how this piece is anti-Semitic.

    I do have a question in my mind as to how many times one can point out the Jewish origin of people before it becomes something else.

    However, Weiner brought the Jewishness into the picture, not Steve. He is writing about the contradiction between what Weiner believes and some relevant personal history of his (Weiner’s).

    If I ask about the differing treatment of say “The Jim Jones Story” as opposed to “Masada” when the underlying premises are the same that does not make me anti-Semitic.

    Steve is being especially heavy handed in censoring comments to this thread, while letting the jewish apologists run free.

    @Is Steve Sailer a Jewish troublemaker? | Neoreactive
     
    I think you have already decided about Steve and you ignore the information that does not confirm your opinion.

    Serious question. Explain exactly how this piece is anti-Semitic.

    When I said “we only needed to wait four days” I was responding to a commenter (maybe not you) who claimed Steve doesn’t write about Jews much, that it’s just the commenters who constantly bring up Jews. So there you go: yet another piece reflecting Steve’s considerable interest in everything Jewish.

    At the same time, you’ve got me wrong if you think I’m here to sling accusations and whine about antisemitism the way others use “racism” as an all-purpose argument-ender. Steve’s not Jewish and I don’t expect him to love us. I suspect he’s about average in the degree of his affection for us.

    He does write a lot about us, and I don’t even hold that per se against him; frankly, there is a lot that’s interesting about us and I can’t be surprised that a curious and intelligent non-Jew thinks so too. So when you see me objecting, it’s not because I’m offended (the way black people and their champions are) that an outsider dares talk about us at all without sticking to the narrow scripts and vocabulary that are approved. When I object, it’s just that I think he’s wrong. Now sometimes “wrong” means being off on his facts or (IMO) his interpretations. But at other times “wrong” is holding us to standards to which he does not hold non-Jews.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    At the same time, you’ve got me wrong if you think I’m here to sling accusations and whine about antisemitism
     
    Checked the archives: I have written "semitism" just once (before this!). And I was commenting on someone else's use of the term.
  142. @International Jew
    When I said "we only needed to wait four days" I was responding to a commenter (maybe not you) who claimed Steve doesn't write about Jews much, that it's just the commenters who constantly bring up Jews. So there you go: yet another piece reflecting Steve's considerable interest in everything Jewish.

    At the same time, you've got me wrong if you think I'm here to sling accusations and whine about antisemitism the way others use "racism" as an all-purpose argument-ender. Steve's not Jewish and I don't expect him to love us. I suspect he's about average in the degree of his affection for us.

    He does write a lot about us, and I don't even hold that per se against him; frankly, there is a lot that's interesting about us and I can't be surprised that a curious and intelligent non-Jew thinks so too. So when you see me objecting, it's not because I'm offended (the way black people and their champions are) that an outsider dares talk about us at all without sticking to the narrow scripts and vocabulary that are approved. When I object, it's just that I think he's wrong. Now sometimes "wrong" means being off on his facts or (IMO) his interpretations. But at other times "wrong" is holding us to standards to which he does not hold non-Jews.

    At the same time, you’ve got me wrong if you think I’m here to sling accusations and whine about antisemitism

    Checked the archives: I have written “semitism” just once (before this!). And I was commenting on someone else’s use of the term.

    • Replies: @iffen
    OK

    I will do a reset.

    I was under the impression that you had described Unz Review as anti-Semitic and I was trying to understand what is here that would lead one to that point of view.

    I feel confident that I know my way around a racism argument, but I do not have that confidence when trying to decide whether some item or person is anti-Semitic. I really don't have a long-standing desire to sort it out but it seems to keep coming up in areas where I do have a great interest and I desire a better understanding of what constitutes anti-Semitism and what does not.
  143. @International Jew

    At the same time, you’ve got me wrong if you think I’m here to sling accusations and whine about antisemitism
     
    Checked the archives: I have written "semitism" just once (before this!). And I was commenting on someone else's use of the term.

    OK

    I will do a reset.

    I was under the impression that you had described Unz Review as anti-Semitic and I was trying to understand what is here that would lead one to that point of view.

    I feel confident that I know my way around a racism argument, but I do not have that confidence when trying to decide whether some item or person is anti-Semitic. I really don’t have a long-standing desire to sort it out but it seems to keep coming up in areas where I do have a great interest and I desire a better understanding of what constitutes anti-Semitism and what does not.

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