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The New York Times has evidently decided to stop categorizing individuals in the news by their race. From the NYT:

Who Is DeWayne Craddock, the Suspect in the Virginia Beach Shooting?

Police officers outside the Virginia Beach Municipal Center on Friday. CreditCreditChip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Well, if that moody, obscure photo doesn’t answer the question “Who Is DeWayne Craddock?” in just one glance, I don’t know what would. That’s clearly the most informative photo possible to be chosen to illustrate an article with a “Who Is” headline.

By The New York Times
June 1, 2019

Before DeWayne Antonio Craddock stormed a Virginia Beach municipal complex on Friday, where law enforcement officials said he slaughtered a dozen people and injured several others, he had made his living in public service.

Mr. Craddock, 40, who was killed during a protracted shootout with the police, had been an engineer with the Department of Public Utilities, the city’s water and sanitary sewer services branch. …

No mention of race anywhere in the article …

The suspect had no obvious criminal history, court records show, although he did have several traffic violations over the years.

He earned a bachelor of science degree in civil engineering from Old Dominion University in Virginia.

In 1996, he enlisted in the Virginia National Guard, where he was assigned to the First Battalion, 111th Field Artillery Regiment, in Norfolk as a cannon crew member, according to a state National Guard spokesman. He was discharged in 2002 at the rank of specialist.

So, clearly, he’s just another law-abiding Angry White Man with an engineering degree and National Guard experience. An obvious Trump voter.

When will something be done about the White Male Menace?

 
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  1. As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….

    • Replies: @lhtness
    Hands up, don't shoot.
    , @Paul Jolliffe
    I will give the NYT credit for coming up with a plausible scenario, something that so far, no other news agency has done:

    "But a person close to Virginia Beach’s city government, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said that the suspect had no history of behavioral problems until recently, when he had begun acting strangely and getting into physical “scuffles” with other city workers.

    The person said that tensions had escalated in the past week, adding that the man had gotten into a violent altercation on city grounds and was told that disciplinary action would be taken."

    So Craddock recently began "acting strangely" and violently. Drugs? Schizophrenia? (MKULTRA?)
    , @Alec Leamas

    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….
     
    There is a substantial proportion of people who glean all of their information about criminal justice and firearms from television and films and as a consequence believe that your average Law Enforcement Officer has the skill and wherewithal during a firefight to "shoot the gun out of his [the perpetrator's] hand" or "shoot him [the perpetrator] in the leg."

    Of course this runs entirely counter to decades of rulings regarding the Constitutional use of deadly force and law enforcement training developed on this basis, neglects the fact that discharging the weapon is itself an exercise in deadly force, that this sort of circus level trick shot would probably be beyond the abilities of most competitive pistol shooters in range conditions, and that your average local LEO's firearms training and proficiency is not particularly impressive.
    , @Vabeachbabe
    Because you don’t bring a bean bag to a GUN FIGHT, jackass.
    , @Twodees Partain
    De Wayne Craddock was openly black, but probably identified as white, so the shooting was the fault of white people...... or something like that.
    , @europeasant
    "Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him……."

    Or give him a hug because he looks like a lot of the doctors, engineers lawyer that I see on TV.
  2. Mr. Craddock, 40, who was killed during a protracted shootout with the police, had been an engineer with the Department of Public Utilities

    Oh, no. Ed Norton goes postal. Watch out, Ralph!

  3. So many people in mainstream media are shameless hypocrites.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I like it. There isn't the slightest pretense at objectivity. They are genuinely the enemy of the European descended, english speaking peoples of the United States.

    Its like reading or listening to Tokyo Rose or the SPLC.
  4. Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….

    Why couldn’t they just pay him reparations for slavery and elect him mayor of Virginia Beach?

    • LOL: Liza
  5. VDARE account mentions race; shows photo. CNN article; WSJ article omit mention. Guess he was just another angry employee. Lots of them of all races. Nothing to look at here-

    • Replies: @2stateshmustate
    Perhaps, but I suspect the MSM want to imply he is white.
  6. It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows? There’s a serious movement afoot to expunge criminal records…
    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/692322738/scrubbing-the-past-to-give-those-with-a-criminal-record-a-second-chance

    If we called such people “undocumented” then for once it wouldn’t be a euphemism.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    From the article:

    "A recent survey showed that more than 80 percent of managers — and two-thirds of human resource professionals — "feel that the value workers with criminal records bring to the organization is as high as or higher than that of workers without records.""

    If that's really true, why would anyone need or even want to have a criminal record expunged, since apparently they work harder and probably do the jobs non-criminals won't do?
    , @prime noticer
    "It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows?"

    ban the box is a serious political movement. though i doubt this guy was an ex-con.

    as you comment though it starts getting harder to know since police departments are now going back and expunging records here and there.
    , @Anon
    Christ.
    Why has democracy to turn into this after a while?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    If we called such people “undocumented” then for once it wouldn’t be a euphemism.
     
    Ex-Dox® will be sold over-the-counter.
    , @TWS
    I had been arresting a murderer for decades. My son, who became an officer after me also arrested this person dozens of times. Convicted of dozens of felony and misdemeanor crimes the news paper reported, "no record". It's real and it's happening.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    There are millions of blacks aand Hispanics who are criminals, yet whose crimes were being routinely expunged going back to at least 1991 (just in my personal experience). Every time they committed assault and battery, they would initially be charged with misdemeanor assault or harassment, and they would get an "ACD" (adjournment in contemplation of dismissal). After six months, it would be expunged. Sometimes the ACD would be conditional on paying compensation to the victim (e.g., for eyeglasses they'd deliberately broken), but they'd never pay a dime. Others would just ignore their court date.

    Virtually all such cases are eventually expunged.

    If you are a white crime victim of these mopes, you too, will usually also be arrested. Black (and sometimes white) female witnesses routinely lie to police on behalf of racist black perps. So, the vic ends up having to spend a couple days cleaning a city park, and can't get any work, because "due diligence, diversity-style," not only means not conducting background checks on blacks, but performing fine-tooth comb checks on white male applicants.

    The real crime rate is many times higher than the official one.
  7. @Buffalo Joe
    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn't they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him.......

    Hands up, don’t shoot.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Ih, missed out on a chance to be an icon.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Hands up, don’t shoot.
     
    The instructions are the opposite at this Asian clinic:


    https://medicalcodingandbillingcertification.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Sperm-Bank.jpg
  8. Hmmmm, gives going postal a new twist.

  9. @International Jew
    It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows? There's a serious movement afoot to expunge criminal records...
    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/692322738/scrubbing-the-past-to-give-those-with-a-criminal-record-a-second-chance

    If we called such people "undocumented" then for once it wouldn't be a euphemism.

    From the article:

    “A recent survey showed that more than 80 percent of managers — and two-thirds of human resource professionals — “feel that the value workers with criminal records bring to the organization is as high as or higher than that of workers without records.””

    If that’s really true, why would anyone need or even want to have a criminal record expunged, since apparently they work harder and probably do the jobs non-criminals won’t do?

    • LOL: Father O'Hara
    • Replies: @snorlax
    In the old DOS game Crisis in the Kremlin, you, playing the role of Soviet General Secretary, would occasionally get a "KGB opinion poll." If you were a repressive ruler in the Brezhnev mold, your job approval would always be somewhere between 80 and 100%, depending on how repressive you were.
    , @Alden
    The big problem is that workers with criminal records continue their criminal activities, get caught and have to take days and days off work to speak with attorneys, parole officers, and for preliminary court appearances.
  10. I give Craddock’s mother credit for spelling his name DeWayne. DuWayne would have been a dead giveaway that he was Black, Dwayne would have probably been White, but DeWayne could go either way.
    The only good thing about this incident is that since he was not a White, the hoplophobes will quickly memory-hole it instead of using it to push gun confiscation.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Alfa. old spelling, Today it would be D'Wayne or D-Wayne. Probably throw a III after his name.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    As soon as I saw "DeWayne", I knew he was black.
    , @TWS
    No. Work in law enforcement. Dwayne might be black or white any other variant is black. Except for the most wiggerish of hillbillies nobody tries to match the sheer stupid spelling.
    , @Prester John
    Maybe he should have been named "Rerun" ("Ree Run"?) and be done with it.
    , @Known Fact
    Tampa Bay has the thoroughly white baseball announcer Dewayne Staats -- he reminds me of the phase Robert (Brady Bunch) Reed went through with a perm
  11. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paul
    So many people in mainstream media are shameless hypocrites.

    I like it. There isn’t the slightest pretense at objectivity. They are genuinely the enemy of the European descended, english speaking peoples of the United States.

    Its like reading or listening to Tokyo Rose or the SPLC.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    They derive deep satisfaction from delivering the message that they are in charge, they will do anything to us that makes them feel good, and there is nothing we can do about it. Indeed even more deliciously, half of us will even applaud them for doing it. It’s scarily fascinating that we are living through one of the great inflection points in human history.
    , @Desiderius
    Not all of them, just the ones outside the ruling class.
  12. To be fair to the NYT, the last time they showed the photo of a Black perpetrator of a mass shooting, an NYT subscriber drove to Washington DC and shot up a baseball practice being held by the Congressional Black Caucus. I may not be remembering the details perfectly.

    • LOL: RVBlake, DCThrowback
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    Hmm. That shooter at the baseball practice must have been black. Because all mass murderers are black, right?
  13. CCZ says:

    NYT is just following the lead of The Root (AKA: Black News, Black Opinions, Black Politics, Black Culture, and the perpetual pursuit of reparations and examples of evil White “Beckys” oppressing black bodies).

    https://www.theroot.com/suspect-identified-in-virginia-beach-mass-shooting-1835173238

    Neither the word “black” nor a photograph of Mr. Craddock appears in the article.

    But right below the article is a link to: “Kamala Harris Says If She’s Elected President, She Will Ban AR-15-Style Guns, the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings.”

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    CCZ, you will find a calmness when you swear off The Root cold turkey. Believe me. Most racist site on the inter net.
    , @Clyde

    Neither the word “black” nor a photograph of Mr. Craddock appears in the article.
     
    Cannot disrupt the narrative and make the fat plump female ethno-avengers on staff go nutso.
    , @El Dato

    "the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings."
     
    Back to the FN FAL then?
    , @Ray Huffman
    But right below the article is a link to: “Kamala Harris Says If She’s Elected President, She Will Ban AR-15-Style Guns, the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings.”

    Good thing mine's an AK-74. And she's not getting it anyway.
  14. Mass murder race identification is only needed if the shooter is white.

    That is the contemporary narrative.

  15. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, back in MAGA country, raceless, genderless criminals behave with utter disregard for policing and laws. NYT says, ” some people did something. ”

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/6/1/18648305/chicago-weekend-shootings-31-4-killed

    Not even Saturday night yet.

    • Replies: @M_Young
    It would be interesting to see if there is a 'catchup' effect. The super cold weather this winter obviously suppressed the Chitown homicide rate...will it recover as things warm up?
  16. So, he wasn’t a postal worker?

  17. A black with an engineering degree would make him one of the talented tenth. Perhaps the NYT can do a feature on the rampant racism in the offices of the City of Virginia Beach that drove him over the edge. Knowing nothing about the place, Virginia Beach sounds like where Haven Monahan surfs.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Knowing nothing about the place, Virginia Beach sounds like where Haven Monahan surfs.
     
    Unsurprisingly, you’re exactly wrong.
    , @William Badwhite
    Its mostly a nice place. Sort of San Diego on the Atlantic in the sense there is a heavy Navy presence and decent surfing.

    Being just "around the corner" from Norfolk, it is home to lots of retired Naval officers. Naval Air Station Oceana is there also.

    There is a downtown with a boardwalk that can get pretty "urban" though at certain times. There a lot of suburb-type neighborhoods. Its still a pretty nice place to live but has gotten blacker over the years.
  18. The Beeb took their lead from on high:

    Authorities said they would only refer to him by name once, in order to focus attention on the victims.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48483618

    • Replies: @Pericles
    That's a new one. And as a result, we get to see the killed ones but not the killer.

    It's the same in Sweden, btw, except the media here have the convention to just mention the age of the perpetrator, like "22 year old man", and you get to figure out the rest yourself. This is apparently because what if the person arrested turned out to be innocent or not convicted? What about his or her life then, heartless goyim? Anyway, it can help lead to an amazing naivete regarding crime and the causers of crime; I have experienced it myself.
  19. Maybe we can take a few seconds to remember Lily Burk, who would be 27 right now, and no doubt in a totally useless but still nice to have profession right now, NPR assistant producer or something.

    Notice the oblique photo the Times published of her murderer, something like 5 days after he was caught*.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Anyone started a pool on how long his “life without parole” will lady? 15 years? 20? 12?
    , @anonymous
    If there is one silver lining in a dark cloud about negroes, at least they have brains that are so full of shite that it makes them easy to catch. They leave fingerprints or DNA on everything, don't understand that there is such a thing as video cameras and they usually brag about their crimes to someone.
  20. No mention of race anywhere in the article …

    Maybe they figured that with a name like DeWayne, it was not necessary to spell out race.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    Yes. At Yahoo "News" they didn't mention the killer's race, then they mentioned his name and the clouds cleared immediately.
  21. No, you’re doing it wrong, Steve. This incident is just another brick in the wall that is white racism.

    @tariqnasheed @AdviseShowMedia @TheBlackChannel @ProfBlacktruth Wait so they apprehended the Parkland shooter who killed 17 ALIVE, Dylan Roof who killed 9 ALIVE, Robert Bowers who killed 11 ALIVE but they kill this likely mentally ill employee. https://t.co/rRElYwCx5T— Jay Barney (@JayBarney13) June 1, 2019

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Just keep in mind that Tariq Nasheed is not part of The Establishment. He's a hustler who has his own niche of angry poor black guys. I rather respect him for going his own way. He's not representative of the Conventional Wisdom.
  22. how many of the government employed african ‘engineers’ are actually engineers? i know some of them really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only.

    in my old neighborhood when i was growing up i was friends with a good guy was paid like $80,000 a year to be an ‘engineer’ and he was really more like a maintenance manager. he did a good job but i would never describe him as an engineer. he was also a good gardener who taught other people about how to do it right.

    i read a more serious documentary about the NASA moon missions which said there were 12 african engineers working on the project, who i’m gonna assume were real deal actual engineers. that’s 12 out of thousands of people, which is probably the reality on serious projects. i know they exist, but they’re not common at all. president kennedy also kept that guy, ed dwight, in the astronaut pool, when he really shouldn’t have been there. but at least dwight was a real pilot who was genuinely trying his best, even if he should have washed out every step of the astronaut training, like the other candidates who also came in last in all the tests.

    it was disappointing when obama came in and told chuck bolden that the NASA mission now was muslim outreach.

    • Replies: @A Name
    This guy was actually a licensed PE, meaning that he passed the FE and PE exams in addition to getting a real engineering degree. No affirmative action there. (Although to be fair, the relatively few black people who can pull that off have great employment prospects, especially in the public sector.)
    , @Anonymous
    Ed Dwight was a pilot of average ability competing against superstars. But among blacks he was a superstar. Pretty typical pattern.
    , @James Graham

    how many of the government employed african ‘engineers’ are actually engineers? i know some of the.m really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only
     
    Tis nothing new.

    Back in the golden Watson years, IBM's computer repair guys were "Customer Engineers."
    , @Simply Simon
    Back in the old days of steam engines on railroads the "driver" was called an engineer even though he had no engineering degree. But the name does fit since he's actually operating an engine. Oddly enough in Great Britain the engineer equivalent was called the driver.
    , @mpnd07
    "African Engineer" not a real engineer. "Some of them", wow!!! I am guessing his Civil Engineering Degree from Old Dominion University would classify him as a "real engineer". Or, maybe his Professional Engineering License would classify him as a real engineer.

    What is certain: 1) DeWayne is a murderer; 2) You are an a$$.
  23. @M_Young
    No, you're doing it wrong, Steve. This incident is just another brick in the wall that is white racism.

    @tariqnasheed @AdviseShowMedia @TheBlackChannel @ProfBlacktruth Wait so they apprehended the Parkland shooter who killed 17 ALIVE, Dylan Roof who killed 9 ALIVE, Robert Bowers who killed 11 ALIVE but they kill this likely mentally ill employee. https://t.co/rRElYwCx5T— Jay Barney (@JayBarney13) June 1, 2019
     

    Just keep in mind that Tariq Nasheed is not part of The Establishment. He’s a hustler who has his own niche of angry poor black guys. I rather respect him for going his own way. He’s not representative of the Conventional Wisdom.

  24. @International Jew
    It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows? There's a serious movement afoot to expunge criminal records...
    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/692322738/scrubbing-the-past-to-give-those-with-a-criminal-record-a-second-chance

    If we called such people "undocumented" then for once it wouldn't be a euphemism.

    “It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows?”

    ban the box is a serious political movement. though i doubt this guy was an ex-con.

    as you comment though it starts getting harder to know since police departments are now going back and expunging records here and there.

  25. But I thought that race is nothing but a social construct . . .

    • Replies: @Anon
    I wonder, still, what social constructs are? Are they social constructs too?
  26. Who Is DeWayne Craddock, the Suspect in the Virginia Beach Shooting?

    clearly, he’s just another law-abiding Angry White Man with an engineering degree and National Guard experience.

    Wrong. If forced to guess race solely on his ethnically revealing name, I’d say he’s a relative of Billy “Crash.”

    https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0001/327/MI0001327987.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Crash Craddock's middle name was Wayne. Something about the name Wayne just aint right.
    BTW,Crash's first hit was called "Boom Boom Baby."
    Too soon...?
  27. @Anonymous
    Meanwhile, back in MAGA country, raceless, genderless criminals behave with utter disregard for policing and laws. NYT says, " some people did something. "

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/6/1/18648305/chicago-weekend-shootings-31-4-killed

    Not even Saturday night yet.

    It would be interesting to see if there is a ‘catchup’ effect. The super cold weather this winter obviously suppressed the Chitown homicide rate…will it recover as things warm up?

  28. As soon as I heard “public employee”, “Virginia Beach” and “disgruntled”, I figured the guy was probably black. One could spend the day “owning” blacks (and, typically, white females) who tweeted all night about “white men”. I can’t however since I have been banned for wrongthink.

  29. As soon as I heard that this was a workplace shooting, I assumed that the perpetrator was black. This was confirmed by the police stating they would name the perpetrator only once. This was a cue to the media not to investigate or try to learn anything from the perpetrator’s identity.

    David Cole in a recent Takimag article broke down the race/mass shooting axis like this:

    1.) White mass shooters tend to be ideological. They write manifestos, then kill random people they’ve never met. They often pick a temple or mosque or church that has nothing to do with them. They kill perfect strangers in the name of The Cause.

    2.) Black mass shooters tend to kill people they know in the workplace. It’s not ideological, it’s personal.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/oh-what-a-lovely-race-war/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    But there are also whites and Asians who shoot up their schools and workplaces for mostly personal reasons.

    The big difference in mass shootings, broadly defined as 4 or more casualties, are between those who don't try to get away (Suicide Shooters) and those who do (Murder Shooters). The death tolls of Murder Shooters are lower because they don't stick around to finish off the wounded. The latter are mostly black.

  30. @Neuday
    A black with an engineering degree would make him one of the talented tenth. Perhaps the NYT can do a feature on the rampant racism in the offices of the City of Virginia Beach that drove him over the edge. Knowing nothing about the place, Virginia Beach sounds like where Haven Monahan surfs.

    Knowing nothing about the place, Virginia Beach sounds like where Haven Monahan surfs.

    Unsurprisingly, you’re exactly wrong.

    • Replies: @reactionry
    Murph The Surf's Up!*
    Or: No Executioner's Song of Roland*?
    Or: Do The Math- Fields Medal Winner**


    Mr. Monahan would have been in exactly the wrong place and time had he attended the April, 2013 Black College Weekend in Virginia Beach. However, Haven might have found a safer surfer haven in the older***, tamer, whiter Virginia Beach gala also described in the link below.

    Tragically, a horse present at the Virginia Beach follies was killed by a cinder block ala Reginald Denny. Fortunately, none of the rioters were run over by a mounted policeperson ala the White Nationalist NASCAR Champion of Charlottesvile, James Alex Fields**.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/05/whitewashing_black_college_beach_week.html

    * Convicted murderer Jack Roland* Murphy looked more than a little like "Haven Monahan" - and for all I know, might have had "dinner with Andre" the Giant or the ubiquitous Steve Sailer (seriously - the data base of the brainy S.S. is such that he's not very many degrees removed from a helluva lotta' famous people - generally taking the form of something like - A cousin of one of my kindergarten classmates broke up the marriage of a famous physicist who had been mentored by Feynman after suffering a career-ending accident in his capacity as Murph's drummer. (whew! sure glad i never show signs of ressentiment!))

    *** older - see Beach Blanket Nursing Home Bingo

    See also: Neighborhood Cinder Block Party

  31. In the style of Kommisar Mueller:

    If he were white, we would have told you.

  32. @For what it's worth
    As soon as I heard that this was a workplace shooting, I assumed that the perpetrator was black. This was confirmed by the police stating they would name the perpetrator only once. This was a cue to the media not to investigate or try to learn anything from the perpetrator's identity.

    David Cole in a recent Takimag article broke down the race/mass shooting axis like this:

    1.) White mass shooters tend to be ideological. They write manifestos, then kill random people they've never met. They often pick a temple or mosque or church that has nothing to do with them. They kill perfect strangers in the name of The Cause.

    2.) Black mass shooters tend to kill people they know in the workplace. It's not ideological, it's personal.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/oh-what-a-lovely-race-war/

    But there are also whites and Asians who shoot up their schools and workplaces for mostly personal reasons.

    The big difference in mass shootings, broadly defined as 4 or more casualties, are between those who don’t try to get away (Suicide Shooters) and those who do (Murder Shooters). The death tolls of Murder Shooters are lower because they don’t stick around to finish off the wounded. The latter are mostly black.

    • Replies: @For what it's worth
    Thank you for the kind response. I think that Cole was onto something there. Have the guys with manifestos tended to be black? I thought we'd had a spate of white guys with manifestos who were taken alive. If I recall correctly, Cole also said that the manifesto-guys used to be Suicide Shooters, whereas now that's less often true. Hmm.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    I was stunned to learn that Martin Bryant is still alive.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11601251
  33. @prime noticer
    how many of the government employed african 'engineers' are actually engineers? i know some of them really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only.

    in my old neighborhood when i was growing up i was friends with a good guy was paid like $80,000 a year to be an 'engineer' and he was really more like a maintenance manager. he did a good job but i would never describe him as an engineer. he was also a good gardener who taught other people about how to do it right.

    i read a more serious documentary about the NASA moon missions which said there were 12 african engineers working on the project, who i'm gonna assume were real deal actual engineers. that's 12 out of thousands of people, which is probably the reality on serious projects. i know they exist, but they're not common at all. president kennedy also kept that guy, ed dwight, in the astronaut pool, when he really shouldn't have been there. but at least dwight was a real pilot who was genuinely trying his best, even if he should have washed out every step of the astronaut training, like the other candidates who also came in last in all the tests.

    it was disappointing when obama came in and told chuck bolden that the NASA mission now was muslim outreach.

    This guy was actually a licensed PE, meaning that he passed the FE and PE exams in addition to getting a real engineering degree. No affirmative action there. (Although to be fair, the relatively few black people who can pull that off have great employment prospects, especially in the public sector.)

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    PE is a total progressivist, Big Government sort of credential.

    I’ve known many, very talented engineers who work in the private sector.

    I doubt that few of them had even heard of such a credential, much less possessed one.

  34. @Steve Sailer
    But there are also whites and Asians who shoot up their schools and workplaces for mostly personal reasons.

    The big difference in mass shootings, broadly defined as 4 or more casualties, are between those who don't try to get away (Suicide Shooters) and those who do (Murder Shooters). The death tolls of Murder Shooters are lower because they don't stick around to finish off the wounded. The latter are mostly black.

    Thank you for the kind response. I think that Cole was onto something there. Have the guys with manifestos tended to be black? I thought we’d had a spate of white guys with manifestos who were taken alive. If I recall correctly, Cole also said that the manifesto-guys used to be Suicide Shooters, whereas now that’s less often true. Hmm.

    • Replies: @Hidden Cat
    Dorner, the rogue black cop of a few years ago in SoCal who killed several, had a manifesto, which I read. It was interesting, detailed descriptions of race issues in his dept. Racism in every possible direction. Hardly limited to white on black or white on POC

    Eliot Rodgers the killer a few years ago in Isla Vista/Santa Barbara - who iirc was half white half Asian also left a manifesto. Very confused about race and himself. More or less hated his Asian side. He did try to get into a sorority but the girls were spooked and kept him out. Among others, he killed 3 young Asian males in one location. He trued to decapitate them using heavy knife and sledgehammer.
  35. Takeaway: Do not hire blacks!
    Diversity requires you to hire blacks you normally wouldn’t. When they cause problems,they are given chance after chance,as you dare not fire them. They become embittered and decide they’re being persecuted because of race. They get angry and long for revenge–and they’re still around ,a ticking bomb.
    People need to stand up against the inclusion leviathan.

  36. I’ll be interested in discovering why he was disgruntled (affirmative incompetence?)

    • Replies: @a reader

    I’ll be interested in discovering why he was disgruntled
     
    Obviously the guy has been disgruntled for a looong time.
  37. @Buffalo Joe
    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn't they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him.......

    I will give the NYT credit for coming up with a plausible scenario, something that so far, no other news agency has done:

    “But a person close to Virginia Beach’s city government, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said that the suspect had no history of behavioral problems until recently, when he had begun acting strangely and getting into physical “scuffles” with other city workers.

    The person said that tensions had escalated in the past week, adding that the man had gotten into a violent altercation on city grounds and was told that disciplinary action would be taken.”

    So Craddock recently began “acting strangely” and violently. Drugs? Schizophrenia? (MKULTRA?)

    • Replies: @Ed
    Schizophrenia usually begins to occur an individual’s late teens, early 20s.

    The municipal government should have gotten the police involved. Someone that is fighting at work has issues. He should have been terminated also. They probably gave him a break since he’s black and a long term employee. It appears 11 people died as a result.
  38. @Neuday
    A black with an engineering degree would make him one of the talented tenth. Perhaps the NYT can do a feature on the rampant racism in the offices of the City of Virginia Beach that drove him over the edge. Knowing nothing about the place, Virginia Beach sounds like where Haven Monahan surfs.

    Its mostly a nice place. Sort of San Diego on the Atlantic in the sense there is a heavy Navy presence and decent surfing.

    Being just “around the corner” from Norfolk, it is home to lots of retired Naval officers. Naval Air Station Oceana is there also.

    There is a downtown with a boardwalk that can get pretty “urban” though at certain times. There a lot of suburb-type neighborhoods. Its still a pretty nice place to live but has gotten blacker over the years.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Do they duckpin? Or is that just in Baltimore?

    I've always wondered why they never got pro basketball back after the Squires folded. Same with Louisville.
    , @Anonymous
    It's a pretty nice place as long as you watch out for the occasional falling fighter jet
    http://pilotonline.com/news/military/local/article_78fcc292-7731-53d5-aba0-d7c084307a69.html
    , @Alden
    A friend whose father lives near Norfolk told me it's the typical military hell hole due to the black navy people and their thug children and spouses, lots of shoplifting by the spouses and standard hell hole public schools due to the black thug kids.
  39. The NYT article is cowardly and hypocritical as usual.

  40. The suspect had no obvious criminal history, court records show, although he did have several traffic violations over the years.

    Could be indicative of an alcohol or drug problem.

  41. Even the Daily Mail is working The Narrative on this one.

    They’ve already reduced their coverage to a single small-headline story way down their homepage.

    There’s no photo of Craddock. He was a ‘crazed gunman’. He was an ex-national guardsman. There is no motive to report.

    The story itself quickly moves on to a long quotation from one of Craddock’s coworkers:

    Bizarrely, just moments before going on the shooting rampage, Craddock was spotted brushing his teeth in the office restrooms where he exchanged pleasantries with a colleague and wished him a good weekend.

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: ‘He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate. I said “Hey, how you doing? What are you doing this weekend?” It was just a brief conversation.

    ‘I’m sure I’m going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,’ Scott told CNN. ‘I worked with him. He was what I thought was a good person. When we were together, we would talk about family, friends, things that we were going to do, trips we were going to take and things like that.’

    Scott said he worked with Craddock, whom a Virginia government source has called a ‘disgruntled employee,’ for several years. Scott said he doesn’t want the shooter ‘painted as an evil person’ adding that ‘something happened, but it wasn’t his nature.’

    Just an ordinary good person who’s really fastidious about his dental hygiene, and who should not be ‘painted as an evil person’.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    The current UK Daily Mail coverage of DeWayne has photos of him and honest coverage.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7094943/PICTURED-Virginia-Beach-gunman-40-indiscriminately-shot-dead-12-colleagues.html
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    That’s an old article:

    PUBLISHED: 09:14 EDT, 1 June 2019 | UPDATED: 17:04 EDT, 1 June 2019

    As of my comment’s timestamp, this is the top article on

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html :

    PUBLISHED: 19:07 EDT, 1 June 2019 | UPDATED: 21:08 EDT, 1 June 2019

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7094943/PICTURED-Virginia-Beach-gunman-40-indiscriminately-shot-dead-12-colleagues.html

    Complete with prominent pictures of the shooter both on main page and in article.
    , @bored identity



    ‘I’m sure I’m going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,’

     

    No witness would be so bluntly, too soon, unfiltered if the crazed gunman was melanin deficient.



    Scott said he doesn’t want the shooter ‘painted as an evil person’

     

    This imbecile, that also doubles as a member of the Central Safety Committee for the City of Virginia Beach, is one step away from starting a Go Fund Me page for DeWayne's future monument :

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-scott-35467945


    http://i.qkme.me/3rcwsp.jpg
    , @anon
    There was always a mini-rush of people brushing teeth after lunch at my old office. I think it was mainly about breath.
    , @El Dato

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: ‘He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate.
     
    Oh man the crisis actor spotters / conspiracy theorists will be all over this like flies on rancid butter.
  42. A white guy did it, right?

  43. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer
    how many of the government employed african 'engineers' are actually engineers? i know some of them really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only.

    in my old neighborhood when i was growing up i was friends with a good guy was paid like $80,000 a year to be an 'engineer' and he was really more like a maintenance manager. he did a good job but i would never describe him as an engineer. he was also a good gardener who taught other people about how to do it right.

    i read a more serious documentary about the NASA moon missions which said there were 12 african engineers working on the project, who i'm gonna assume were real deal actual engineers. that's 12 out of thousands of people, which is probably the reality on serious projects. i know they exist, but they're not common at all. president kennedy also kept that guy, ed dwight, in the astronaut pool, when he really shouldn't have been there. but at least dwight was a real pilot who was genuinely trying his best, even if he should have washed out every step of the astronaut training, like the other candidates who also came in last in all the tests.

    it was disappointing when obama came in and told chuck bolden that the NASA mission now was muslim outreach.

    Ed Dwight was a pilot of average ability competing against superstars. But among blacks he was a superstar. Pretty typical pattern.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    A “superstar”, military pilot is someone who has dropped more than 5 million pounds of napalm on third-world villagers.
  44. the media are blatantly and overtly anti-white and their anti-white narrative makes them accessory to murder.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  45. Wow, watching the Streisand Effect, in all its glory!

    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
    AKA "Gilmore's Law."
  46. @International Jew
    It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows? There's a serious movement afoot to expunge criminal records...
    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/692322738/scrubbing-the-past-to-give-those-with-a-criminal-record-a-second-chance

    If we called such people "undocumented" then for once it wouldn't be a euphemism.

    Christ.
    Why has democracy to turn into this after a while?

  47. @PaceLaw
    But I thought that race is nothing but a social construct . . .

    I wonder, still, what social constructs are? Are they social constructs too?

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat

    So, naturalists observe, a flea
    Has smaller fleas that on him prey;
    And these have smaller still to bite ’em;
    And so proceed ad infinitum.
     
  48. @Anonymous
    I like it. There isn't the slightest pretense at objectivity. They are genuinely the enemy of the European descended, english speaking peoples of the United States.

    Its like reading or listening to Tokyo Rose or the SPLC.

    They derive deep satisfaction from delivering the message that they are in charge, they will do anything to us that makes them feel good, and there is nothing we can do about it. Indeed even more deliciously, half of us will even applaud them for doing it. It’s scarily fascinating that we are living through one of the great inflection points in human history.

  49. @International Jew
    It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows? There's a serious movement afoot to expunge criminal records...
    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/692322738/scrubbing-the-past-to-give-those-with-a-criminal-record-a-second-chance

    If we called such people "undocumented" then for once it wouldn't be a euphemism.

    If we called such people “undocumented” then for once it wouldn’t be a euphemism.

    Ex-Dox® will be sold over-the-counter.

  50. @Steve Sailer
    But there are also whites and Asians who shoot up their schools and workplaces for mostly personal reasons.

    The big difference in mass shootings, broadly defined as 4 or more casualties, are between those who don't try to get away (Suicide Shooters) and those who do (Murder Shooters). The death tolls of Murder Shooters are lower because they don't stick around to finish off the wounded. The latter are mostly black.

    I was stunned to learn that Martin Bryant is still alive.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11601251

    • Replies: @Pericles

    He was sentenced to 35 life sentences - or 1035 years without parole.

     

    By the way, that's just 2.5x more than the merciless drive-by slayer of Charlottesville, James Fields, got.
  51. @Oleaginous Outrager
    From the article:

    "A recent survey showed that more than 80 percent of managers — and two-thirds of human resource professionals — "feel that the value workers with criminal records bring to the organization is as high as or higher than that of workers without records.""

    If that's really true, why would anyone need or even want to have a criminal record expunged, since apparently they work harder and probably do the jobs non-criminals won't do?

    In the old DOS game Crisis in the Kremlin, you, playing the role of Soviet General Secretary, would occasionally get a “KGB opinion poll.” If you were a repressive ruler in the Brezhnev mold, your job approval would always be somewhere between 80 and 100%, depending on how repressive you were.

  52. @lhtness
    Hands up, don't shoot.

    Ih, missed out on a chance to be an icon.

  53. @Alfa158
    I give Craddock’s mother credit for spelling his name DeWayne. DuWayne would have been a dead giveaway that he was Black, Dwayne would have probably been White, but DeWayne could go either way.
    The only good thing about this incident is that since he was not a White, the hoplophobes will quickly memory-hole it instead of using it to push gun confiscation.

    Alfa. old spelling, Today it would be D’Wayne or D-Wayne. Probably throw a III after his name.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Alfa. old spelling, Today it would be D’Wayne or D-Wayne. Probably throw a III after his name.
     
    Pretty soon it will be T'Wayne for the trans she hopes he will be. Might even give this name to a baby girl. We live in accelerated times.
  54. @CCZ
    NYT is just following the lead of The Root (AKA: Black News, Black Opinions, Black Politics, Black Culture, and the perpetual pursuit of reparations and examples of evil White "Beckys" oppressing black bodies).

    https://www.theroot.com/suspect-identified-in-virginia-beach-mass-shooting-1835173238

    Neither the word "black" nor a photograph of Mr. Craddock appears in the article.

    But right below the article is a link to: "Kamala Harris Says If She’s Elected President, She Will Ban AR-15-Style Guns, the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings."

    CCZ, you will find a calmness when you swear off The Root cold turkey. Believe me. Most racist site on the inter net.

  55. @CCZ
    NYT is just following the lead of The Root (AKA: Black News, Black Opinions, Black Politics, Black Culture, and the perpetual pursuit of reparations and examples of evil White "Beckys" oppressing black bodies).

    https://www.theroot.com/suspect-identified-in-virginia-beach-mass-shooting-1835173238

    Neither the word "black" nor a photograph of Mr. Craddock appears in the article.

    But right below the article is a link to: "Kamala Harris Says If She’s Elected President, She Will Ban AR-15-Style Guns, the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings."

    Neither the word “black” nor a photograph of Mr. Craddock appears in the article.

    Cannot disrupt the narrative and make the fat plump female ethno-avengers on staff go nutso.

  56. @Buffalo Joe
    Alfa. old spelling, Today it would be D'Wayne or D-Wayne. Probably throw a III after his name.

    Alfa. old spelling, Today it would be D’Wayne or D-Wayne. Probably throw a III after his name.

    Pretty soon it will be T’Wayne for the trans she hopes he will be. Might even give this name to a baby girl. We live in accelerated times.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    T'Pring (Arlene Martel)
    http://www.arlenemartel.com/auto/pics/martel54s.jpg


    She made a pretty decent retirement income from one guest appearance on Star Trek

    I always thought the name was a play on "tip-ring" a telephone term for a wire pair based on which side went to the "tip" (self explanatory) or "ring" (the side of the shaft-if it's split there's a tip, ring and sleeve, tip and ring if only 2 conductors) of the 1/4" plug used on switchboards like in the Lily Tomlin skits.
  57. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Even the Daily Mail is working The Narrative on this one.

    They've already reduced their coverage to a single small-headline story way down their homepage.

    There's no photo of Craddock. He was a 'crazed gunman'. He was an ex-national guardsman. There is no motive to report.

    The story itself quickly moves on to a long quotation from one of Craddock's coworkers:


    Bizarrely, just moments before going on the shooting rampage, Craddock was spotted brushing his teeth in the office restrooms where he exchanged pleasantries with a colleague and wished him a good weekend.

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: 'He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate. I said "Hey, how you doing? What are you doing this weekend?" It was just a brief conversation.

    'I'm sure I'm going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,' Scott told CNN. 'I worked with him. He was what I thought was a good person. When we were together, we would talk about family, friends, things that we were going to do, trips we were going to take and things like that.'

    Scott said he worked with Craddock, whom a Virginia government source has called a 'disgruntled employee,' for several years. Scott said he doesn't want the shooter 'painted as an evil person' adding that 'something happened, but it wasn't his nature.'
     

    Just an ordinary good person who's really fastidious about his dental hygiene, and who should not be 'painted as an evil person'.

    The current UK Daily Mail coverage of DeWayne has photos of him and honest coverage.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7094943/PICTURED-Virginia-Beach-gunman-40-indiscriminately-shot-dead-12-colleagues.html

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    Yes, they've updated the story so it's much more straightforward. Thanks.
    , @Paul Mendez
    From the Daily Mail article:

    Another neighbor - Clarisa Morel, 22, - told CNN Craddock was in front of his apartment with two others smoking what smelled like marijuana around two months ago.
     
    Another example of sudden-onset mental illness brought about by today’ super-potent strains of pot?
  58. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Even the Daily Mail is working The Narrative on this one.

    They've already reduced their coverage to a single small-headline story way down their homepage.

    There's no photo of Craddock. He was a 'crazed gunman'. He was an ex-national guardsman. There is no motive to report.

    The story itself quickly moves on to a long quotation from one of Craddock's coworkers:


    Bizarrely, just moments before going on the shooting rampage, Craddock was spotted brushing his teeth in the office restrooms where he exchanged pleasantries with a colleague and wished him a good weekend.

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: 'He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate. I said "Hey, how you doing? What are you doing this weekend?" It was just a brief conversation.

    'I'm sure I'm going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,' Scott told CNN. 'I worked with him. He was what I thought was a good person. When we were together, we would talk about family, friends, things that we were going to do, trips we were going to take and things like that.'

    Scott said he worked with Craddock, whom a Virginia government source has called a 'disgruntled employee,' for several years. Scott said he doesn't want the shooter 'painted as an evil person' adding that 'something happened, but it wasn't his nature.'
     

    Just an ordinary good person who's really fastidious about his dental hygiene, and who should not be 'painted as an evil person'.

    That’s an old article:

    PUBLISHED: 09:14 EDT, 1 June 2019 | UPDATED: 17:04 EDT, 1 June 2019

    As of my comment’s timestamp, this is the top article on

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html :

    PUBLISHED: 19:07 EDT, 1 June 2019 | UPDATED: 21:08 EDT, 1 June 2019

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7094943/PICTURED-Virginia-Beach-gunman-40-indiscriminately-shot-dead-12-colleagues.html

    Complete with prominent pictures of the shooter both on main page and in article.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    Yes, thanks, the DM has updated the story with the essential elements now included. It's much better.
  59. @Anonymous
    I like it. There isn't the slightest pretense at objectivity. They are genuinely the enemy of the European descended, english speaking peoples of the United States.

    Its like reading or listening to Tokyo Rose or the SPLC.

    Not all of them, just the ones outside the ruling class.

  60. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Even the Daily Mail is working The Narrative on this one.

    They've already reduced their coverage to a single small-headline story way down their homepage.

    There's no photo of Craddock. He was a 'crazed gunman'. He was an ex-national guardsman. There is no motive to report.

    The story itself quickly moves on to a long quotation from one of Craddock's coworkers:


    Bizarrely, just moments before going on the shooting rampage, Craddock was spotted brushing his teeth in the office restrooms where he exchanged pleasantries with a colleague and wished him a good weekend.

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: 'He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate. I said "Hey, how you doing? What are you doing this weekend?" It was just a brief conversation.

    'I'm sure I'm going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,' Scott told CNN. 'I worked with him. He was what I thought was a good person. When we were together, we would talk about family, friends, things that we were going to do, trips we were going to take and things like that.'

    Scott said he worked with Craddock, whom a Virginia government source has called a 'disgruntled employee,' for several years. Scott said he doesn't want the shooter 'painted as an evil person' adding that 'something happened, but it wasn't his nature.'
     

    Just an ordinary good person who's really fastidious about his dental hygiene, and who should not be 'painted as an evil person'.

    ‘I’m sure I’m going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,’

    No witness would be so bluntly, too soon, unfiltered if the crazed gunman was melanin deficient.

    Scott said he doesn’t want the shooter ‘painted as an evil person’

    This imbecile, that also doubles as a member of the Central Safety Committee for the City of Virginia Beach, is one step away from starting a Go Fund Me page for DeWayne’s future monument :

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-scott-35467945

  61. @For what it's worth
    Thank you for the kind response. I think that Cole was onto something there. Have the guys with manifestos tended to be black? I thought we'd had a spate of white guys with manifestos who were taken alive. If I recall correctly, Cole also said that the manifesto-guys used to be Suicide Shooters, whereas now that's less often true. Hmm.

    Dorner, the rogue black cop of a few years ago in SoCal who killed several, had a manifesto, which I read. It was interesting, detailed descriptions of race issues in his dept. Racism in every possible direction. Hardly limited to white on black or white on POC

    Eliot Rodgers the killer a few years ago in Isla Vista/Santa Barbara – who iirc was half white half Asian also left a manifesto. Very confused about race and himself. More or less hated his Asian side. He did try to get into a sorority but the girls were spooked and kept him out. Among others, he killed 3 young Asian males in one location. He trued to decapitate them using heavy knife and sledgehammer.

  62. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Even the Daily Mail is working The Narrative on this one.

    They've already reduced their coverage to a single small-headline story way down their homepage.

    There's no photo of Craddock. He was a 'crazed gunman'. He was an ex-national guardsman. There is no motive to report.

    The story itself quickly moves on to a long quotation from one of Craddock's coworkers:


    Bizarrely, just moments before going on the shooting rampage, Craddock was spotted brushing his teeth in the office restrooms where he exchanged pleasantries with a colleague and wished him a good weekend.

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: 'He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate. I said "Hey, how you doing? What are you doing this weekend?" It was just a brief conversation.

    'I'm sure I'm going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,' Scott told CNN. 'I worked with him. He was what I thought was a good person. When we were together, we would talk about family, friends, things that we were going to do, trips we were going to take and things like that.'

    Scott said he worked with Craddock, whom a Virginia government source has called a 'disgruntled employee,' for several years. Scott said he doesn't want the shooter 'painted as an evil person' adding that 'something happened, but it wasn't his nature.'
     

    Just an ordinary good person who's really fastidious about his dental hygiene, and who should not be 'painted as an evil person'.

    There was always a mini-rush of people brushing teeth after lunch at my old office. I think it was mainly about breath.

  63. @Alfa158
    I give Craddock’s mother credit for spelling his name DeWayne. DuWayne would have been a dead giveaway that he was Black, Dwayne would have probably been White, but DeWayne could go either way.
    The only good thing about this incident is that since he was not a White, the hoplophobes will quickly memory-hole it instead of using it to push gun confiscation.

    As soon as I saw “DeWayne”, I knew he was black.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    'As soon as I saw “DeWayne”, I knew he was black.'

    As soon as I saw they were being evasive, I figured he was black.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    As soon as I saw “DeWayne”, I knew he was black.
     
    I once knew a DuWayne. Not only was he white, he was from one of the whitest states. Or at least least-black.

    Whites are less afraid of sounding black if there are no blacks in the vicinity. Scandinavians in the upper Midwest had a penchant for names like Leroy and Delores [sic].

    It's really funny that Wayne became fashionable among the lower orders in the UK. It came from America, where it honored Mad Anthony, who fought the British. I've met a couple of American Brocks, which is the same thing in the other direction.
  64. @Desiderius

    Knowing nothing about the place, Virginia Beach sounds like where Haven Monahan surfs.
     
    Unsurprisingly, you’re exactly wrong.

    Murph The Surf’s Up!*
    Or: No Executioner’s Song of Roland*?
    Or: Do The Math- Fields Medal Winner**

    Mr. Monahan would have been in exactly the wrong place and time had he attended the April, 2013 Black College Weekend in Virginia Beach. However, Haven might have found a safer surfer haven in the older***, tamer, whiter Virginia Beach gala also described in the link below.

    Tragically, a horse present at the Virginia Beach follies was killed by a cinder block ala Reginald Denny. Fortunately, none of the rioters were run over by a mounted policeperson ala the White Nationalist NASCAR Champion of Charlottesvile, James Alex Fields**.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/05/whitewashing_black_college_beach_week.html

    * Convicted murderer Jack Roland* Murphy looked more than a little like “Haven Monahan” – and for all I know, might have had “dinner with Andre” the Giant or the ubiquitous Steve Sailer (seriously – the data base of the brainy S.S. is such that he’s not very many degrees removed from a helluva lotta’ famous people – generally taking the form of something like – A cousin of one of my kindergarten classmates broke up the marriage of a famous physicist who had been mentored by Feynman after suffering a career-ending accident in his capacity as Murph’s drummer. (whew! sure glad i never show signs of ressentiment!))

    *** older – see Beach Blanket Nursing Home Bingo

    See also: Neighborhood Cinder Block Party

  65. The first report that I saw had no picture and no mention of the perp’s race. I inferred that he was black.

  66. Anon[242] • Disclaimer says:

    New York Magazine is on the case:

    Everything We Know About the Virginia Beach Shooting

    Except the race of the shooter. And what he looks like.

    We know what the victims look like, however:

    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/06/01/01-virginia-beach-victims.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.jpg

    The Victims

    Some of the 12 workers killed in Friday’s attack had worked for the city of Virginia Beach for decades. They included men and women, both white and black, and across a range of ages.

    Thanks, New York, for identifying the races of the victims.

    Nice photo of a mourner. Who is black:

    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/06/01/01-virginia-beach-shooting-memorial.w700.h467.jpg

    The shooter:

    The Shooter

    DeWayne Craddock was a 40-year-old certified professional engineer at the Virginia Beach public utilities department, where he had worked for 15 years…. At least one anonymous Virginia government official has referred to Craddock as a “disgruntled employee,” but that characterization has not been confirmed, as of Saturday, either.

    Virginia Beach Police Chief James Cervera also said when he released the shooter’s name that the police would only be referring to his name that one time and never again — in order to keep the focus on the victims. As of Saturday, authorities have also not released a photo of Craddock, who is black.

    Wait … the shooter is what?!?

    Let’s count the paragraphs.

    Paragraph 31 out of 39.

    Like the New York Times. for stories like this, you need to read New York Magazine articles backwards, or at least jump to the end after polishing off the first half dozen paragraphs to make sure that there are no Easter eggs buried down there.

  67. Has the MSM begun to question whether his victims were racists and deserved it? In the Hartfort, CT shooting of 2010, they made it look like the shooter, who was about to be fired for theft, was being racially harassed by his fellow employees. We then had to endure the humiliating spectacle of victims’ family members going before the cameras to tell the world their deceased love one was not a racist..

    • Replies: @Anon

    Has the MSM begun to question whether his victims were racists and deserved it?
     
    Sadly, this jujitsu move didn't pan out after it surfaced that three out of twelve victims were black:

    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/06/01/01-virginia-beach-victims.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.jpg

    But on the other hand, who ever heard of a government office with only 25 percent black employees? There is definitely something racist going on with that.

  68. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Alfa. old spelling, Today it would be D’Wayne or D-Wayne. Probably throw a III after his name.
     
    Pretty soon it will be T'Wayne for the trans she hopes he will be. Might even give this name to a baby girl. We live in accelerated times.

    T’Pring (Arlene Martel)

    She made a pretty decent retirement income from one guest appearance on Star Trek

    I always thought the name was a play on “tip-ring” a telephone term for a wire pair based on which side went to the “tip” (self explanatory) or “ring” (the side of the shaft-if it’s split there’s a tip, ring and sleeve, tip and ring if only 2 conductors) of the 1/4″ plug used on switchboards like in the Lily Tomlin skits.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    The elderly Vulcan priestess in that ep was named T'Pau, so the T thing must have some deep gender-based meaning. Martel scored a sci-fi exacta by also appearing in one of The Outer Limits' best shows, Demon With a Glass Hand.
  69. @istevefan
    Has the MSM begun to question whether his victims were racists and deserved it? In the Hartfort, CT shooting of 2010, they made it look like the shooter, who was about to be fired for theft, was being racially harassed by his fellow employees. We then had to endure the humiliating spectacle of victims' family members going before the cameras to tell the world their deceased love one was not a racist..

    Has the MSM begun to question whether his victims were racists and deserved it?

    Sadly, this jujitsu move didn’t pan out after it surfaced that three out of twelve victims were black:

    But on the other hand, who ever heard of a government office with only 25 percent black employees? There is definitely something racist going on with that.

    • Replies: @europeasant
    "Sadly, this jujitsu move didn’t pan out after it surfaced that three out of twelve victims were black"

    So he was not a Racist, but you're forgetting that there was probably "Institutionalized Racism" to blame.

    "Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions. It is reflected in disparities regarding wealth, income, criminal ".

    Or maybe he was a "Victim of Microaggressions".

    "Microaggression is a term used for brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioural, or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative prejudicial slights and insults toward any group".

    Or ........Etc Etc Etc.
  70. Anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    The race of the guy is so hushed up that you could probably get away with planting some fake news articles claiming that the shooter was a known white supremacist, and that he yelled racist slurs as he shot people. Someone saw him do an OK sign. Or that his Facebook page linked to neo-Nazi sites. Maybe come up with a fake photo of a white guy.

    It would be funny to see how far you could get such fake news to travel, and how the media would deal with rebutting such fake news, given that they don’t want to talk about race.

    Another problem for the left: The guy used a couple of hand gun. Not an AR-15 in sight.

    I think if challenged, the media will point at this:

    The Push to Not Name Mass Shooters Is Catching On

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/the-push-to-not-name-mass-shooters-is-catching-on.html

    “I know that you have an obligation to report the name, the identity. I know you have the obligation to put out a picture,” he said. “But soon, very soon, let us move past focusing on the identity of the suspects and their images and focus instead on the innocent victims of this crime and the investigation itself.”

    Except no picture this time.

    • Replies: @Bruce County
    62 out 110 0f the biggest mass shooters in the US were non-white... so we can guess it to be black or other 50% of the time when no other info comes to light in the press immediately.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
  71. NYT pretends to be race blind and not to mention race of criminals. In reality, they obey the anti-white racist german PresseKodex12.1

    http://sincerity.net/stylebook-dishonest/
    describes this in all detail ….

  72. Unlike the NYT, the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police at The Daily Beast are very proud of themselves for doxing a working-class Black guy for posting the video of Nancy Pelosi where she seemed to be slurring her words.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/we-found-shawn-brooks-the-guy-behind-the-viral-drunk-pelosi-video

  73. I knew he was black from the beginning – they were all, all of them, hedging about the perp’s (dead one) background. If he had been an ISIS or a nutter white guy with multiple magazines he would have been: Bingo for the leftist journalists. This story will be very interesting how much Leftists have to contort themselves! Killing 11 is more than 9, – tough for media to play the anti white card.

  74. A black shooter, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

  75. Anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Five of the nine victims went to Old Dominion University. It seems like they have quite an employment pipeline to the local government. One of the five was a black guy who didn’t graduate; three of the four whites were civil engineers, one a woman with a masters in civil engineering.

    https://odu.edu/news/2019/6/letter_from_presiden

    • Replies: @Ed
    ODU is in Norfolk which is a commutable distance to VA Beach. It’s also a state school, which has become increasingly popular with minorities in particular blacks. So it’s a perfect school for college graduates from humble backgrounds to pursue a career in government which offers lifetime, stable employment.
  76. Mr. Craddock, 40, who was killed during a protracted shootout with the police, had been an engineer with the Department of Public Utilities …

    Craddock’s shootings were an engineering proposal gone wrong.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Probably a meter reader.

    Not someone with the skills to go out and light pilot lights for new customers or fix stoves, furnaces water heaters when there's something wrong. That's a Senior Engineer Technician .
  77. @Henry's Cat
    The Beeb took their lead from on high:

    Authorities said they would only refer to him by name once, in order to focus attention on the victims.
     
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48483618

    That’s a new one. And as a result, we get to see the killed ones but not the killer.

    It’s the same in Sweden, btw, except the media here have the convention to just mention the age of the perpetrator, like “22 year old man”, and you get to figure out the rest yourself. This is apparently because what if the person arrested turned out to be innocent or not convicted? What about his or her life then, heartless goyim? Anyway, it can help lead to an amazing naivete regarding crime and the causers of crime; I have experienced it myself.

  78. @Reg Cæsar
    I was stunned to learn that Martin Bryant is still alive.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11601251

    He was sentenced to 35 life sentences – or 1035 years without parole.

    By the way, that’s just 2.5x more than the merciless drive-by slayer of Charlottesville, James Fields, got.

  79. The Zionist Voice, operating under the cover name Breitbart, also carefully avoids any reference to the content of the shooter’s skin and has no photo of him in its short article. The picture is the standard flowers-memorial-and-police-tape scene.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/01/report-site-of-virginia-beach-shooting-another-gun-free-zone/

  80. @Malcolm X-Lax
    As soon as I saw "DeWayne", I knew he was black.

    ‘As soon as I saw “DeWayne”, I knew he was black.’

    As soon as I saw they were being evasive, I figured he was black.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    It would have been in the headline in CAPS if he'd been white.
  81. @Clyde
    The current UK Daily Mail coverage of DeWayne has photos of him and honest coverage.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7094943/PICTURED-Virginia-Beach-gunman-40-indiscriminately-shot-dead-12-colleagues.html

    Yes, they’ve updated the story so it’s much more straightforward. Thanks.

  82. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    That’s an old article:

    PUBLISHED: 09:14 EDT, 1 June 2019 | UPDATED: 17:04 EDT, 1 June 2019

    As of my comment’s timestamp, this is the top article on

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html :

    PUBLISHED: 19:07 EDT, 1 June 2019 | UPDATED: 21:08 EDT, 1 June 2019

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7094943/PICTURED-Virginia-Beach-gunman-40-indiscriminately-shot-dead-12-colleagues.html

    Complete with prominent pictures of the shooter both on main page and in article.

    Yes, thanks, the DM has updated the story with the essential elements now included. It’s much better.

  83. I believe the NYT’s policy is only to mention race when it is “relevant.”

  84. Ed says:
    @Paul Jolliffe
    I will give the NYT credit for coming up with a plausible scenario, something that so far, no other news agency has done:

    "But a person close to Virginia Beach’s city government, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said that the suspect had no history of behavioral problems until recently, when he had begun acting strangely and getting into physical “scuffles” with other city workers.

    The person said that tensions had escalated in the past week, adding that the man had gotten into a violent altercation on city grounds and was told that disciplinary action would be taken."

    So Craddock recently began "acting strangely" and violently. Drugs? Schizophrenia? (MKULTRA?)

    Schizophrenia usually begins to occur an individual’s late teens, early 20s.

    The municipal government should have gotten the police involved. Someone that is fighting at work has issues. He should have been terminated also. They probably gave him a break since he’s black and a long term employee. It appears 11 people died as a result.

    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    There’s growing suspicion that some strains of today’s marijuana, cultivated to be “trippy,” can bring on episodes of paranoia and delusions in previously healthy individuals.
  85. Ed says:
    @Anon
    Five of the nine victims went to Old Dominion University. It seems like they have quite an employment pipeline to the local government. One of the five was a black guy who didn't graduate; three of the four whites were civil engineers, one a woman with a masters in civil engineering.

    https://odu.edu/news/2019/6/letter_from_presiden

    ODU is in Norfolk which is a commutable distance to VA Beach. It’s also a state school, which has become increasingly popular with minorities in particular blacks. So it’s a perfect school for college graduates from humble backgrounds to pursue a career in government which offers lifetime, stable employment.

  86. @Anon
    I wonder, still, what social constructs are? Are they social constructs too?

    So, naturalists observe, a flea
    Has smaller fleas that on him prey;
    And these have smaller still to bite ’em;
    And so proceed ad infinitum.

  87. @Sergeant Prepper

    No mention of race anywhere in the article …
     
    Maybe they figured that with a name like DeWayne, it was not necessary to spell out race.

    Yes. At Yahoo “News” they didn’t mention the killer’s race, then they mentioned his name and the clouds cleared immediately.

  88. KenH says:

    A name like DeWayne is pretty much a dead giveaway that it’s a dindu which in this case it is. But since the shooter was black the (((media))) coverage is bland and race neutral. The template for a black mass shooter is that authorities just can’t seem to find a motive and that they’re “searching for answers” all the while attacking the second amendment.

    But if it’s discovered that the black mass shooter hated white people then white racism drove him to commit the shooting and he is the real victim, not the “racist” white people that he murdered.

    If the shooter is white and his victims are Jewish or non-white then he’s a white nationalist and white people are collectively guilty. The only way to atone for the act is to bestow even more special rights and privileges upon Jews, blacks and other non-whites than they already have and also import a few million more squatemalans.

  89. @Clyde
    The current UK Daily Mail coverage of DeWayne has photos of him and honest coverage.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7094943/PICTURED-Virginia-Beach-gunman-40-indiscriminately-shot-dead-12-colleagues.html

    From the Daily Mail article:

    Another neighbor – Clarisa Morel, 22, – told CNN Craddock was in front of his apartment with two others smoking what smelled like marijuana around two months ago.

    Another example of sudden-onset mental illness brought about by today’ super-potent strains of pot?

  90. @Anon

    Has the MSM begun to question whether his victims were racists and deserved it?
     
    Sadly, this jujitsu move didn't pan out after it surfaced that three out of twelve victims were black:

    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2019/06/01/01-virginia-beach-victims.nocrop.w710.h2147483647.jpg

    But on the other hand, who ever heard of a government office with only 25 percent black employees? There is definitely something racist going on with that.

    “Sadly, this jujitsu move didn’t pan out after it surfaced that three out of twelve victims were black”

    So he was not a Racist, but you’re forgetting that there was probably “Institutionalized Racism” to blame.

    “Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions. It is reflected in disparities regarding wealth, income, criminal “.

    Or maybe he was a “Victim of Microaggressions”.

    “Microaggression is a term used for brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioural, or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative prejudicial slights and insults toward any group”.

    Or ……..Etc Etc Etc.

  91. @Ed
    Schizophrenia usually begins to occur an individual’s late teens, early 20s.

    The municipal government should have gotten the police involved. Someone that is fighting at work has issues. He should have been terminated also. They probably gave him a break since he’s black and a long term employee. It appears 11 people died as a result.

    There’s growing suspicion that some strains of today’s marijuana, cultivated to be “trippy,” can bring on episodes of paranoia and delusions in previously healthy individuals.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Interesting.

    In that case, there will be an increasing number of "events" in the next few years.
    , @HA
    "There’s growing suspicion that some strains of today’s marijuana, cultivated to be “trippy,” can bring on episodes of paranoia and delusions..."

    Plain old regular old-time weed does that as well. High-potency strains double the chance of psychosis, so that is a complication worth mentioning, but the problem exists even without that.


    Now a new study published Tuesday in the The Lancet Psychiatry shows that consuming pot on a daily basis and especially using high-potency cannabis increases the odds of having a psychotic episode later....The study found that those who used pot daily were three times more likely to have a psychotic episode compared with someone who never used the drug...Those who started using cannabis at 15 or younger had a slightly more elevated risk than those who started using in later years...Use of high-potency weed almost doubled the odds of having psychosis compared with someone who had never smoked weed, explains Di Forti. And for those who used high-potency pot on a daily basis, the risk of psychosis was even greater — four times greater than those who had never used.
     
  92. @Buffalo Joe
    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn't they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him.......

    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….

    There is a substantial proportion of people who glean all of their information about criminal justice and firearms from television and films and as a consequence believe that your average Law Enforcement Officer has the skill and wherewithal during a firefight to “shoot the gun out of his [the perpetrator’s] hand” or “shoot him [the perpetrator] in the leg.”

    Of course this runs entirely counter to decades of rulings regarding the Constitutional use of deadly force and law enforcement training developed on this basis, neglects the fact that discharging the weapon is itself an exercise in deadly force, that this sort of circus level trick shot would probably be beyond the abilities of most competitive pistol shooters in range conditions, and that your average local LEO’s firearms training and proficiency is not particularly impressive.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Alec, thank you.
    , @Anon
    Most perps will drop their weapons and surrender if you wing them in the earlobe. For the few who continue in their attack, take of their left pinkie.

    Anyone with a carry license has the responsibility to master these minimal skills.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    C'mon, Man! I saw the Lone Ranger shoot a guy's gun out his hand all the time! Marshall Dillon and the Rifleman too.
  93. @Alec Leamas

    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….
     
    There is a substantial proportion of people who glean all of their information about criminal justice and firearms from television and films and as a consequence believe that your average Law Enforcement Officer has the skill and wherewithal during a firefight to "shoot the gun out of his [the perpetrator's] hand" or "shoot him [the perpetrator] in the leg."

    Of course this runs entirely counter to decades of rulings regarding the Constitutional use of deadly force and law enforcement training developed on this basis, neglects the fact that discharging the weapon is itself an exercise in deadly force, that this sort of circus level trick shot would probably be beyond the abilities of most competitive pistol shooters in range conditions, and that your average local LEO's firearms training and proficiency is not particularly impressive.

    Alec, thank you.

    • Replies: @Bruce County
    Good cop, bad cop who cares.. They are trained to kill ..They have spit seconds to make that choice.. Kill or be killed. Aim for mass, squeeze several times.
  94. Maybe they could just call him DeWayne “Crash” Craddock.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_%22Crash%22_Craddock

  95. @International Jew
    It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows? There's a serious movement afoot to expunge criminal records...
    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/692322738/scrubbing-the-past-to-give-those-with-a-criminal-record-a-second-chance

    If we called such people "undocumented" then for once it wouldn't be a euphemism.

    I had been arresting a murderer for decades. My son, who became an officer after me also arrested this person dozens of times. Convicted of dozens of felony and misdemeanor crimes the news paper reported, “no record”. It’s real and it’s happening.

  96. @Malcolm X-Lax
    As soon as I saw "DeWayne", I knew he was black.

    As soon as I saw “DeWayne”, I knew he was black.

    I once knew a DuWayne. Not only was he white, he was from one of the whitest states. Or at least least-black.

    Whites are less afraid of sounding black if there are no blacks in the vicinity. Scandinavians in the upper Midwest had a penchant for names like Leroy and Delores [sic].

    It’s really funny that Wayne became fashionable among the lower orders in the UK. It came from America, where it honored Mad Anthony, who fought the British. I’ve met a couple of American Brocks, which is the same thing in the other direction.

  97. @Alfa158
    I give Craddock’s mother credit for spelling his name DeWayne. DuWayne would have been a dead giveaway that he was Black, Dwayne would have probably been White, but DeWayne could go either way.
    The only good thing about this incident is that since he was not a White, the hoplophobes will quickly memory-hole it instead of using it to push gun confiscation.

    No. Work in law enforcement. Dwayne might be black or white any other variant is black. Except for the most wiggerish of hillbillies nobody tries to match the sheer stupid spelling.

  98. @William Badwhite
    Its mostly a nice place. Sort of San Diego on the Atlantic in the sense there is a heavy Navy presence and decent surfing.

    Being just "around the corner" from Norfolk, it is home to lots of retired Naval officers. Naval Air Station Oceana is there also.

    There is a downtown with a boardwalk that can get pretty "urban" though at certain times. There a lot of suburb-type neighborhoods. Its still a pretty nice place to live but has gotten blacker over the years.

    Do they duckpin? Or is that just in Baltimore?

    I’ve always wondered why they never got pro basketball back after the Squires folded. Same with Louisville.

  99. @Meretricious
    I'll be interested in discovering why he was disgruntled (affirmative incompetence?)

    I’ll be interested in discovering why he was disgruntled

    Obviously the guy has been disgruntled for a looong time.

  100. @Alec Leamas

    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….
     
    There is a substantial proportion of people who glean all of their information about criminal justice and firearms from television and films and as a consequence believe that your average Law Enforcement Officer has the skill and wherewithal during a firefight to "shoot the gun out of his [the perpetrator's] hand" or "shoot him [the perpetrator] in the leg."

    Of course this runs entirely counter to decades of rulings regarding the Constitutional use of deadly force and law enforcement training developed on this basis, neglects the fact that discharging the weapon is itself an exercise in deadly force, that this sort of circus level trick shot would probably be beyond the abilities of most competitive pistol shooters in range conditions, and that your average local LEO's firearms training and proficiency is not particularly impressive.

    Most perps will drop their weapons and surrender if you wing them in the earlobe. For the few who continue in their attack, take of their left pinkie.

    Anyone with a carry license has the responsibility to master these minimal skills.

    • LOL: Alden
  101. Neighbor said he was a pot head. There is a strong connection between today’s super high THC and violent/schizophrenic behavior. Maybe hip media and even hipper politicians should stop pushing the legalization of this stuff. Some serious study of the relationship between mass shooters and THC is needed. Big Weed Inc and the politicians that want the tax money don’t care about Americans turning their brains into crap.

  102. So a certified college degreed engineer (civil, no less) musters out of the National Guard as a private on a cannon crew. What does that say about Craddock and all of his privileges and free passes in life as well as the academic rigors of Old Dominion State University?

    One would think that a degreed civil engineer would muster out of the Guard at least as a second lieutenant. If black, a Lt. Colonel.

  103. Paddock shot someone again? You’d think that after Las Vegas they would keep him locked up. Oh, wait Craddock.

    The FBI should keep an eye out on all people named Haddock buying guns, just to be safe.

  104. @Anon
    The race of the guy is so hushed up that you could probably get away with planting some fake news articles claiming that the shooter was a known white supremacist, and that he yelled racist slurs as he shot people. Someone saw him do an OK sign. Or that his Facebook page linked to neo-Nazi sites. Maybe come up with a fake photo of a white guy.

    It would be funny to see how far you could get such fake news to travel, and how the media would deal with rebutting such fake news, given that they don't want to talk about race.

    Another problem for the left: The guy used a couple of hand gun. Not an AR-15 in sight.

    I think if challenged, the media will point at this:

    The Push to Not Name Mass Shooters Is Catching On

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/the-push-to-not-name-mass-shooters-is-catching-on.html


    “I know that you have an obligation to report the name, the identity. I know you have the obligation to put out a picture,” he said. “But soon, very soon, let us move past focusing on the identity of the suspects and their images and focus instead on the innocent victims of this crime and the investigation itself.”
     
    Except no picture this time.

    62 out 110 0f the biggest mass shooters in the US were non-white… so we can guess it to be black or other 50% of the time when no other info comes to light in the press immediately.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/

  105. @CCZ
    NYT is just following the lead of The Root (AKA: Black News, Black Opinions, Black Politics, Black Culture, and the perpetual pursuit of reparations and examples of evil White "Beckys" oppressing black bodies).

    https://www.theroot.com/suspect-identified-in-virginia-beach-mass-shooting-1835173238

    Neither the word "black" nor a photograph of Mr. Craddock appears in the article.

    But right below the article is a link to: "Kamala Harris Says If She’s Elected President, She Will Ban AR-15-Style Guns, the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings."

    “the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings.”

    Back to the FN FAL then?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Back to the FN FAL then?
     
    In other words, the product of the Wallonian regional government. Are they legal where they're made, or is it like Jack Daniel's?


    https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/272555844325_/Wallonia-Belgium-Map-Flag-STICKER-bumper-decal-car.jpg
  106. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Even the Daily Mail is working The Narrative on this one.

    They've already reduced their coverage to a single small-headline story way down their homepage.

    There's no photo of Craddock. He was a 'crazed gunman'. He was an ex-national guardsman. There is no motive to report.

    The story itself quickly moves on to a long quotation from one of Craddock's coworkers:


    Bizarrely, just moments before going on the shooting rampage, Craddock was spotted brushing his teeth in the office restrooms where he exchanged pleasantries with a colleague and wished him a good weekend.

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: 'He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate. I said "Hey, how you doing? What are you doing this weekend?" It was just a brief conversation.

    'I'm sure I'm going to hear all kinds of things about DeWayne, but I liked him,' Scott told CNN. 'I worked with him. He was what I thought was a good person. When we were together, we would talk about family, friends, things that we were going to do, trips we were going to take and things like that.'

    Scott said he worked with Craddock, whom a Virginia government source has called a 'disgruntled employee,' for several years. Scott said he doesn't want the shooter 'painted as an evil person' adding that 'something happened, but it wasn't his nature.'
     

    Just an ordinary good person who's really fastidious about his dental hygiene, and who should not be 'painted as an evil person'.

    Joseph Scott, an engineering technician with the department of public works, said: ‘He was in there brushing his teeth, which he always did after he ate.

    Oh man the crisis actor spotters / conspiracy theorists will be all over this like flies on rancid butter.

  107. @Paul Mendez
    There’s growing suspicion that some strains of today’s marijuana, cultivated to be “trippy,” can bring on episodes of paranoia and delusions in previously healthy individuals.

    Interesting.

    In that case, there will be an increasing number of “events” in the next few years.

  108. Got on Google and had to scroll down numerous links before a photo of the gunman confirmed confirmed what anyone with half a brain could intuit–that he was, uh, um, a “Person of Color”.

  109. @Alfa158
    I give Craddock’s mother credit for spelling his name DeWayne. DuWayne would have been a dead giveaway that he was Black, Dwayne would have probably been White, but DeWayne could go either way.
    The only good thing about this incident is that since he was not a White, the hoplophobes will quickly memory-hole it instead of using it to push gun confiscation.

    Maybe he should have been named “Rerun” (“Ree Run”?) and be done with it.

  110. It’s gone. It came and went. Finished. Done. Let’s get back to the victimhood of Jussie Smollett

  111. @Buffalo Joe
    Alec, thank you.

    Good cop, bad cop who cares.. They are trained to kill ..They have spit seconds to make that choice.. Kill or be killed. Aim for mass, squeeze several times.

  112. @CCZ
    NYT is just following the lead of The Root (AKA: Black News, Black Opinions, Black Politics, Black Culture, and the perpetual pursuit of reparations and examples of evil White "Beckys" oppressing black bodies).

    https://www.theroot.com/suspect-identified-in-virginia-beach-mass-shooting-1835173238

    Neither the word "black" nor a photograph of Mr. Craddock appears in the article.

    But right below the article is a link to: "Kamala Harris Says If She’s Elected President, She Will Ban AR-15-Style Guns, the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings."

    But right below the article is a link to: “Kamala Harris Says If She’s Elected President, She Will Ban AR-15-Style Guns, the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings.”

    Good thing mine’s an AK-74. And she’s not getting it anyway.

  113. @FUBSY
    Wow, watching the Streisand Effect, in all its glory!

    AKA “Gilmore’s Law.”

  114. @Colin Wright
    'As soon as I saw “DeWayne”, I knew he was black.'

    As soon as I saw they were being evasive, I figured he was black.

    It would have been in the headline in CAPS if he’d been white.

  115. @Alec Leamas

    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….
     
    There is a substantial proportion of people who glean all of their information about criminal justice and firearms from television and films and as a consequence believe that your average Law Enforcement Officer has the skill and wherewithal during a firefight to "shoot the gun out of his [the perpetrator's] hand" or "shoot him [the perpetrator] in the leg."

    Of course this runs entirely counter to decades of rulings regarding the Constitutional use of deadly force and law enforcement training developed on this basis, neglects the fact that discharging the weapon is itself an exercise in deadly force, that this sort of circus level trick shot would probably be beyond the abilities of most competitive pistol shooters in range conditions, and that your average local LEO's firearms training and proficiency is not particularly impressive.

    C’mon, Man! I saw the Lone Ranger shoot a guy’s gun out his hand all the time! Marshall Dillon and the Rifleman too.

  116. @Cagey Beast
    To be fair to the NYT, the last time they showed the photo of a Black perpetrator of a mass shooting, an NYT subscriber drove to Washington DC and shot up a baseball practice being held by the Congressional Black Caucus. I may not be remembering the details perfectly.

    Hmm. That shooter at the baseball practice must have been black. Because all mass murderers are black, right?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    No the joke is that the media can pretend the mass shooting of members Congress (!!) never happened, if doing so suits their agenda. Had it been as I described, the shooting at the Congressional baseball practice would have been ranked alongside 9/11 and the attack on Pearl Harbour.
  117. “There’s growing suspicion that some strains of today’s marijuana, cultivated to be “trippy,” can bring on episodes of paranoia and delusions in previously healthy individuals.”

    we’re pretty sure this is a real thing that’s happening. 2019 THC levels damage the brain in specific ways.

    how it relates to shootings, if at all, remains unknown.

    that trend of ‘dabbing’ started out as marijuana culture. dabbing was supposed to mimic people’s reaction to using a form of marijuana called shatter. that stuff is just a solid block of THC that you vaporize then inhale. nothing like shatter exists in nature, or ever existed until recently.

  118. Strange that a 40-year-old white collar professional would be living in an apartment complex with a bunch of 20 somethings. Maybe he was bad with money or got wiped out in a divorce.

  119. @A Name
    This guy was actually a licensed PE, meaning that he passed the FE and PE exams in addition to getting a real engineering degree. No affirmative action there. (Although to be fair, the relatively few black people who can pull that off have great employment prospects, especially in the public sector.)

    PE is a total progressivist, Big Government sort of credential.

    I’ve known many, very talented engineers who work in the private sector.

    I doubt that few of them had even heard of such a credential, much less possessed one.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    On "signed and sealed" drawings in construction a PE stamp must be on them. It is for liability issues.
    , @mpnd07
    Well, in 1980 my college room-mate's father sat for the PE exam - it was a bear. He received his Master Degree from Princeton. Ran is own engineering consulting business. It is not a government credential - it is kind of like a accountant sitting for the CPA exam - getting that professional credential. Some very talented people are not able to achieve that accomplishment. Nonetheless, you go ahead with your attempt to diminish the accomplishment of many.
  120. A couple of short notes:

    1) weapon used here was a single .45 auto, not the dreaded “assault rifle.” This pistol is a basic very old military weapon, which he must have reloaded several times since the magazines on these things are usually at most a dozen rounds. He also shot repeatedly at police. So again, it’s not the weapon, it’s the perp.

    2) as to motive, claimed to be a total mystery. Perhaps. I have a theory based on circumstantial evidence, the “dogs that aren’t barking” kind. First, he’s a loner gym buff guy. Second, a “hasty” and unusual very quick end to his first, long ago, only marriage. Third, he’s a decent looking 40 YO black male with zero reported other ex wives, baby mamas, illegitimate kids, or current/former girlfriends who usually get quoted in these things about “he was a good man.” Fourth, most middle class blacks like him are Christians who attend black church regularly. But no appearance of pastor or preacher telling us he was basically a quiet guy, moral churchgoer, etc. “and we can’t understand this” kind of lament. Fifth, no grieving, shocked family members on the scene or being quoted about how this act was “uncharacteristic”, etc.

    So no females (and no other obvious relationships). No religious or family ties. No kids. A 40 YO black man w/ a good job and lives alone? This is all circumstantial, but it suggests a conflicted, closeted gay black man. Perhaps filled with rage/resentment over his sexuality and inner shame at being gay. No friends or family ties. Lashes out at the only place (other than gym) he regularly goes.

    No way of knowing more yet. But if he was on the down low, this is another reason why MSM are keeping his persona under wraps. Don’t want to change any useful narratives, do we?

  121. @prime noticer
    how many of the government employed african 'engineers' are actually engineers? i know some of them really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only.

    in my old neighborhood when i was growing up i was friends with a good guy was paid like $80,000 a year to be an 'engineer' and he was really more like a maintenance manager. he did a good job but i would never describe him as an engineer. he was also a good gardener who taught other people about how to do it right.

    i read a more serious documentary about the NASA moon missions which said there were 12 african engineers working on the project, who i'm gonna assume were real deal actual engineers. that's 12 out of thousands of people, which is probably the reality on serious projects. i know they exist, but they're not common at all. president kennedy also kept that guy, ed dwight, in the astronaut pool, when he really shouldn't have been there. but at least dwight was a real pilot who was genuinely trying his best, even if he should have washed out every step of the astronaut training, like the other candidates who also came in last in all the tests.

    it was disappointing when obama came in and told chuck bolden that the NASA mission now was muslim outreach.

    how many of the government employed african ‘engineers’ are actually engineers? i know some of the.m really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only

    Tis nothing new.

    Back in the golden Watson years, IBM’s computer repair guys were “Customer Engineers.”

    • Replies: @Alden
    Back when the local university still had American full time tenured janitors, they wanted to get the same pay as bull dozer operators because they operated "heavy machinery" or floor polishers. It didn't work.

    That movie hidden figures, about black women who worked in the space program is on continually today. I won't be watching

    , @Jim Don Bob
    Programmers are now Software Engineers. People seem to think replacing one useful word with several high sounding words makes them seem intelligent.
  122. @M_Young
    Maybe we can take a few seconds to remember Lily Burk, who would be 27 right now, and no doubt in a totally useless but still nice to have profession right now, NPR assistant producer or something.

    Notice the oblique photo the Times published of her murderer, something like 5 days after he was caught*.

    Anyone started a pool on how long his “life without parole” will lady? 15 years? 20? 12?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Anyone started a pool on how long his “life without parole” will lady?
     
    Okay, your fingers slipped and hit adjacent keys, but that is an interesting verb. Will he be someone's prison bitch?

    I suspect nobody opposes prison resegregation more than the softer, lighter black cons, because without whites around, they're next in line. Hold on to that soap!
  123. @MBlanc46
    Anyone started a pool on how long his “life without parole” will lady? 15 years? 20? 12?

    Anyone started a pool on how long his “life without parole” will lady?

    Okay, your fingers slipped and hit adjacent keys, but that is an interesting verb. Will he be someone’s prison bitch?

    I suspect nobody opposes prison resegregation more than the softer, lighter black cons, because without whites around, they’re next in line. Hold on to that soap!

  124. Pardon me, and I might be misremembering, but did Steve ever post on the Dylan Roof shooting or the last one that was a white dude? Once the shooter was black though, woo wee!!!

    If I have my facts straight, then this really is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. You both pander to your audiences for the almighty dollar, no need for either side to claim impartiality. Jeez.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    If both pot and kettle are black, how can Steve be rayciss?
  125. eah says:

    Teachers allegedly told to favor black students in ‘racial equity’ training

    In controversial “implicit bias” training, New York City’s public-school educators have been told to focus on black children over white ones — and one Jewish superintendent who described her family’s Holocaust tragedies was scolded and humiliated, according to firsthand accounts.

  126. @El Dato

    "the Weapon of Choice in Mass Shootings."
     
    Back to the FN FAL then?

    Back to the FN FAL then?

    In other words, the product of the Wallonian regional government. Are they legal where they’re made, or is it like Jack Daniel’s?

  127. @lhtness
    Hands up, don't shoot.

    Hands up, don’t shoot.

    The instructions are the opposite at this Asian clinic:

  128. HA says:
    @Paul Mendez
    There’s growing suspicion that some strains of today’s marijuana, cultivated to be “trippy,” can bring on episodes of paranoia and delusions in previously healthy individuals.

    “There’s growing suspicion that some strains of today’s marijuana, cultivated to be “trippy,” can bring on episodes of paranoia and delusions…”

    Plain old regular old-time weed does that as well. High-potency strains double the chance of psychosis, so that is a complication worth mentioning, but the problem exists even without that.

    Now a new study published Tuesday in the The Lancet Psychiatry shows that consuming pot on a daily basis and especially using high-potency cannabis increases the odds of having a psychotic episode later….The study found that those who used pot daily were three times more likely to have a psychotic episode compared with someone who never used the drug…Those who started using cannabis at 15 or younger had a slightly more elevated risk than those who started using in later years…Use of high-potency weed almost doubled the odds of having psychosis compared with someone who had never smoked weed, explains Di Forti. And for those who used high-potency pot on a daily basis, the risk of psychosis was even greater — four times greater than those who had never used.

  129. @Abolish_public_education
    PE is a total progressivist, Big Government sort of credential.

    I’ve known many, very talented engineers who work in the private sector.

    I doubt that few of them had even heard of such a credential, much less possessed one.

    On “signed and sealed” drawings in construction a PE stamp must be on them. It is for liability issues.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    Liability =
    legalistic =
    government certified “expert” =
    high professional fees =
    billable hours for lawyers.

    Quintessential progressivism.

  130. @Alfa158
    I give Craddock’s mother credit for spelling his name DeWayne. DuWayne would have been a dead giveaway that he was Black, Dwayne would have probably been White, but DeWayne could go either way.
    The only good thing about this incident is that since he was not a White, the hoplophobes will quickly memory-hole it instead of using it to push gun confiscation.

    Tampa Bay has the thoroughly white baseball announcer Dewayne Staats — he reminds me of the phase Robert (Brady Bunch) Reed went through with a perm

    • Replies: @Prester John
    He did the Yankee games back in the Eighties for awhile.
  131. @Anonymous
    T'Pring (Arlene Martel)
    http://www.arlenemartel.com/auto/pics/martel54s.jpg


    She made a pretty decent retirement income from one guest appearance on Star Trek

    I always thought the name was a play on "tip-ring" a telephone term for a wire pair based on which side went to the "tip" (self explanatory) or "ring" (the side of the shaft-if it's split there's a tip, ring and sleeve, tip and ring if only 2 conductors) of the 1/4" plug used on switchboards like in the Lily Tomlin skits.

    The elderly Vulcan priestess in that ep was named T’Pau, so the T thing must have some deep gender-based meaning. Martel scored a sci-fi exacta by also appearing in one of The Outer Limits’ best shows, Demon With a Glass Hand.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    TOS canonically Vulcan male names started with S-Spock, Sarek, Stonn-and females were T'P(something), T'Pring, T'pau. They broke canonicity by making Kirstie Scieno Alley's character Saavik in the movie.

    Much later Jolene Blalock was T'Pol, so they recovered, sort of.
  132. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite
    Its mostly a nice place. Sort of San Diego on the Atlantic in the sense there is a heavy Navy presence and decent surfing.

    Being just "around the corner" from Norfolk, it is home to lots of retired Naval officers. Naval Air Station Oceana is there also.

    There is a downtown with a boardwalk that can get pretty "urban" though at certain times. There a lot of suburb-type neighborhoods. Its still a pretty nice place to live but has gotten blacker over the years.

    It’s a pretty nice place as long as you watch out for the occasional falling fighter jet
    http://pilotonline.com/news/military/local/article_78fcc292-7731-53d5-aba0-d7c084307a69.html

  133. @Dtbb
    On "signed and sealed" drawings in construction a PE stamp must be on them. It is for liability issues.

    Liability =
    legalistic =
    government certified “expert” =
    high professional fees =
    billable hours for lawyers.

    Quintessential progressivism.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    I agree with you but my point is it is all private sector. Ask your buddies.
  134. @Anonymous
    Ed Dwight was a pilot of average ability competing against superstars. But among blacks he was a superstar. Pretty typical pattern.

    A “superstar”, military pilot is someone who has dropped more than 5 million pounds of napalm on third-world villagers.

  135. @Buffalo Joe
    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn't they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him.......

    Because you don’t bring a bean bag to a GUN FIGHT, jackass.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Va, just saw your reply. I guess you didn't realize I was being sarcastic. And just so you don't feel bad, you are not the first to call me Jackass.
  136. Dewayne Antonio Craddock, what else could he be but black? Antonio Sanchez or Sidari could be Italian or hispanic/ Dewayne Craddock could be British White, But Dewayne Antonio Craddock can’t be anything but black

    By their names ye shall know them.

    • Replies: @mpnd07
    Your name is misspelled. I think you meant to type A$$hole.
  137. @James Graham

    how many of the government employed african ‘engineers’ are actually engineers? i know some of the.m really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only
     
    Tis nothing new.

    Back in the golden Watson years, IBM's computer repair guys were "Customer Engineers."

    Back when the local university still had American full time tenured janitors, they wanted to get the same pay as bull dozer operators because they operated “heavy machinery” or floor polishers. It didn’t work.

    That movie hidden figures, about black women who worked in the space program is on continually today. I won’t be watching

  138. @Abolish_public_education
    Liability =
    legalistic =
    government certified “expert” =
    high professional fees =
    billable hours for lawyers.

    Quintessential progressivism.

    I agree with you but my point is it is all private sector. Ask your buddies.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    The fast food industry is tied to the private sector.

    The “liability” (tort) industry is tied to DEM donors.

  139. @prime noticer
    how many of the government employed african 'engineers' are actually engineers? i know some of them really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only.

    in my old neighborhood when i was growing up i was friends with a good guy was paid like $80,000 a year to be an 'engineer' and he was really more like a maintenance manager. he did a good job but i would never describe him as an engineer. he was also a good gardener who taught other people about how to do it right.

    i read a more serious documentary about the NASA moon missions which said there were 12 african engineers working on the project, who i'm gonna assume were real deal actual engineers. that's 12 out of thousands of people, which is probably the reality on serious projects. i know they exist, but they're not common at all. president kennedy also kept that guy, ed dwight, in the astronaut pool, when he really shouldn't have been there. but at least dwight was a real pilot who was genuinely trying his best, even if he should have washed out every step of the astronaut training, like the other candidates who also came in last in all the tests.

    it was disappointing when obama came in and told chuck bolden that the NASA mission now was muslim outreach.

    Back in the old days of steam engines on railroads the “driver” was called an engineer even though he had no engineering degree. But the name does fit since he’s actually operating an engine. Oddly enough in Great Britain the engineer equivalent was called the driver.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Still is.
  140. @Emma Lazarus Plimsoll

    Mr. Craddock, 40, who was killed during a protracted shootout with the police, had been an engineer with the Department of Public Utilities ...
     
    Craddock's shootings were an engineering proposal gone wrong.

    Probably a meter reader.

    Not someone with the skills to go out and light pilot lights for new customers or fix stoves, furnaces water heaters when there’s something wrong. That’s a Senior Engineer Technician .

  141. @William Badwhite
    Its mostly a nice place. Sort of San Diego on the Atlantic in the sense there is a heavy Navy presence and decent surfing.

    Being just "around the corner" from Norfolk, it is home to lots of retired Naval officers. Naval Air Station Oceana is there also.

    There is a downtown with a boardwalk that can get pretty "urban" though at certain times. There a lot of suburb-type neighborhoods. Its still a pretty nice place to live but has gotten blacker over the years.

    A friend whose father lives near Norfolk told me it’s the typical military hell hole due to the black navy people and their thug children and spouses, lots of shoplifting by the spouses and standard hell hole public schools due to the black thug kids.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    White skoolz suck, too.
    , @William Badwhite
    As I said in my post, its been getting blacker and blacker. It used to be Va Beach was pretty white, while the hoodrats stayed around Norfolk or up in Hampton Roads or Newport News (home of Michael Vick, winner of the Nobel Prize in dog-fighting).

    As is often the case (due to racism), the whites in Virginia Beach had the "good" schools while the poor blacks in Norfolk, Chesapeake, etc were forced to attend the bad schools, so there's been a fair amount of blacks moving into Va Beach to ruin, err I mean to attend the better schools.

    If wikipedia is to be believed its now about 20% black (up from 9% in 1970). The football player Plaxico Burress that accidentally shot himself in the leg is from Va Beach. Given the data points that 1) he was named "Plaxico" and 2) that he accidentally shot himself (while clubbing in NYC, where possession of a handgun gets you mandatory jail time), see if you can guess the gentleman's race?

    If you're white there, you want to keep pushing south. Sandbridge is nice for example. There are still a lot of good neighborhoods in Va Beach in the suburban areas.
  142. @Oleaginous Outrager
    From the article:

    "A recent survey showed that more than 80 percent of managers — and two-thirds of human resource professionals — "feel that the value workers with criminal records bring to the organization is as high as or higher than that of workers without records.""

    If that's really true, why would anyone need or even want to have a criminal record expunged, since apparently they work harder and probably do the jobs non-criminals won't do?

    The big problem is that workers with criminal records continue their criminal activities, get caught and have to take days and days off work to speak with attorneys, parole officers, and for preliminary court appearances.

  143. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Pardon me, and I might be misremembering, but did Steve ever post on the Dylan Roof shooting or the last one that was a white dude? Once the shooter was black though, woo wee!!!

    If I have my facts straight, then this really is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. You both pander to your audiences for the almighty dollar, no need for either side to claim impartiality. Jeez.

    If both pot and kettle are black, how can Steve be rayciss?

  144. @Dtbb
    I agree with you but my point is it is all private sector. Ask your buddies.

    The fast food industry is tied to the private sector.

    The “liability” (tort) industry is tied to DEM donors.

  145. @Alden
    A friend whose father lives near Norfolk told me it's the typical military hell hole due to the black navy people and their thug children and spouses, lots of shoplifting by the spouses and standard hell hole public schools due to the black thug kids.

    White skoolz suck, too.

  146. @J1234

    Who Is DeWayne Craddock, the Suspect in the Virginia Beach Shooting?
     

    clearly, he’s just another law-abiding Angry White Man with an engineering degree and National Guard experience.
     

    Wrong. If forced to guess race solely on his ethnically revealing name, I'd say he's a relative of Billy "Crash."

    https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0001/327/MI0001327987.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

    Crash Craddock’s middle name was Wayne. Something about the name Wayne just aint right.
    BTW,Crash’s first hit was called “Boom Boom Baby.”
    Too soon…?

  147. @Alden
    A friend whose father lives near Norfolk told me it's the typical military hell hole due to the black navy people and their thug children and spouses, lots of shoplifting by the spouses and standard hell hole public schools due to the black thug kids.

    As I said in my post, its been getting blacker and blacker. It used to be Va Beach was pretty white, while the hoodrats stayed around Norfolk or up in Hampton Roads or Newport News (home of Michael Vick, winner of the Nobel Prize in dog-fighting).

    As is often the case (due to racism), the whites in Virginia Beach had the “good” schools while the poor blacks in Norfolk, Chesapeake, etc were forced to attend the bad schools, so there’s been a fair amount of blacks moving into Va Beach to ruin, err I mean to attend the better schools.

    If wikipedia is to be believed its now about 20% black (up from 9% in 1970). The football player Plaxico Burress that accidentally shot himself in the leg is from Va Beach. Given the data points that 1) he was named “Plaxico” and 2) that he accidentally shot himself (while clubbing in NYC, where possession of a handgun gets you mandatory jail time), see if you can guess the gentleman’s race?

    If you’re white there, you want to keep pushing south. Sandbridge is nice for example. There are still a lot of good neighborhoods in Va Beach in the suburban areas.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    the whites in Virginia Beach had the “good” schools while the poor blacks .. were forced to attend the bad school

    “Good”, in your context, means “sucks less”.

    It’s not funny that one group of innocent [young!] people must serve 10+ year sentences in crappy, ruinous, often physically dangerous public skoolz (prisons) for the “crime” of being born into poor households.
  148. @William Badwhite
    As I said in my post, its been getting blacker and blacker. It used to be Va Beach was pretty white, while the hoodrats stayed around Norfolk or up in Hampton Roads or Newport News (home of Michael Vick, winner of the Nobel Prize in dog-fighting).

    As is often the case (due to racism), the whites in Virginia Beach had the "good" schools while the poor blacks in Norfolk, Chesapeake, etc were forced to attend the bad schools, so there's been a fair amount of blacks moving into Va Beach to ruin, err I mean to attend the better schools.

    If wikipedia is to be believed its now about 20% black (up from 9% in 1970). The football player Plaxico Burress that accidentally shot himself in the leg is from Va Beach. Given the data points that 1) he was named "Plaxico" and 2) that he accidentally shot himself (while clubbing in NYC, where possession of a handgun gets you mandatory jail time), see if you can guess the gentleman's race?

    If you're white there, you want to keep pushing south. Sandbridge is nice for example. There are still a lot of good neighborhoods in Va Beach in the suburban areas.

    the whites in Virginia Beach had the “good” schools while the poor blacks .. were forced to attend the bad school

    “Good”, in your context, means “sucks less”.

    It’s not funny that one group of innocent [young!] people must serve 10+ year sentences in crappy, ruinous, often physically dangerous public skoolz (prisons) for the “crime” of being born into poor households.

  149. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Known Fact
    The elderly Vulcan priestess in that ep was named T'Pau, so the T thing must have some deep gender-based meaning. Martel scored a sci-fi exacta by also appearing in one of The Outer Limits' best shows, Demon With a Glass Hand.

    TOS canonically Vulcan male names started with S-Spock, Sarek, Stonn-and females were T’P(something), T’Pring, T’pau. They broke canonicity by making Kirstie Scieno Alley’s character Saavik in the movie.

    Much later Jolene Blalock was T’Pol, so they recovered, sort of.

    • Replies: @JSM
    Since we're sperging out here, Saavik was not born on Vulcan, she was a Romulan-Vulcan hybrid born on Hellguard. (This according to the novelization of the movie by Vonda McIntyre.) Therefore it's not surprising her name does not follow Vulcan conventions.
  150. @International Jew
    It says Craddock had no criminal record, but who knows? There's a serious movement afoot to expunge criminal records...
    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/692322738/scrubbing-the-past-to-give-those-with-a-criminal-record-a-second-chance

    If we called such people "undocumented" then for once it wouldn't be a euphemism.

    There are millions of blacks aand Hispanics who are criminals, yet whose crimes were being routinely expunged going back to at least 1991 (just in my personal experience). Every time they committed assault and battery, they would initially be charged with misdemeanor assault or harassment, and they would get an “ACD” (adjournment in contemplation of dismissal). After six months, it would be expunged. Sometimes the ACD would be conditional on paying compensation to the victim (e.g., for eyeglasses they’d deliberately broken), but they’d never pay a dime. Others would just ignore their court date.

    Virtually all such cases are eventually expunged.

    If you are a white crime victim of these mopes, you too, will usually also be arrested. Black (and sometimes white) female witnesses routinely lie to police on behalf of racist black perps. So, the vic ends up having to spend a couple days cleaning a city park, and can’t get any work, because “due diligence, diversity-style,” not only means not conducting background checks on blacks, but performing fine-tooth comb checks on white male applicants.

    The real crime rate is many times higher than the official one.

  151. @obwandiyag
    Hmm. That shooter at the baseball practice must have been black. Because all mass murderers are black, right?

    No the joke is that the media can pretend the mass shooting of members Congress (!!) never happened, if doing so suits their agenda. Had it been as I described, the shooting at the Congressional baseball practice would have been ranked alongside 9/11 and the attack on Pearl Harbour.

  152. Anonymous[535] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simply Simon
    Back in the old days of steam engines on railroads the "driver" was called an engineer even though he had no engineering degree. But the name does fit since he's actually operating an engine. Oddly enough in Great Britain the engineer equivalent was called the driver.

    Still is.

  153. @Anonymous
    TOS canonically Vulcan male names started with S-Spock, Sarek, Stonn-and females were T'P(something), T'Pring, T'pau. They broke canonicity by making Kirstie Scieno Alley's character Saavik in the movie.

    Much later Jolene Blalock was T'Pol, so they recovered, sort of.

    Since we’re sperging out here, Saavik was not born on Vulcan, she was a Romulan-Vulcan hybrid born on Hellguard. (This according to the novelization of the movie by Vonda McIntyre.) Therefore it’s not surprising her name does not follow Vulcan conventions.

  154. @Buffalo Joe
    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn't they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him.......

    De Wayne Craddock was openly black, but probably identified as white, so the shooting was the fault of white people…… or something like that.

  155. @Known Fact
    Tampa Bay has the thoroughly white baseball announcer Dewayne Staats -- he reminds me of the phase Robert (Brady Bunch) Reed went through with a perm

    He did the Yankee games back in the Eighties for awhile.

  156. @Jim Given
    VDARE account mentions race; shows photo. CNN article; WSJ article omit mention. Guess he was just another angry employee. Lots of them of all races. Nothing to look at here-

    Perhaps, but I suspect the MSM want to imply he is white.

  157. Deffo a honkey.

    I’ve watched so many (((adverts))) for home cameras here in cuckstain & the burglars are always White. The coil friends OTOH are dindus!

    I’m sure the ARSES are completely reppin reality & not blinded by their protruding ratlike cheeks, squishy head & swarthy hooked nose – 20-20 vision!!!!

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Are you developing your own futuristic lingo, kind of like the one in Clockwork Orange?
  158. @Buffalo Joe
    As soon as it becomes common knowledge that Craddock is black, and he was killed by the police the protests will start. Why couldn't they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him.......

    “Why couldn’t they just tase him, pepper spray him, bean bag him…….”

    Or give him a hug because he looks like a lot of the doctors, engineers lawyer that I see on TV.

  159. @Mr. Curious
    Deffo a honkey.

    I've watched so many (((adverts))) for home cameras here in cuckstain & the burglars are always White. The coil friends OTOH are dindus!

    I'm sure the ARSES are completely reppin reality & not blinded by their protruding ratlike cheeks, squishy head & swarthy hooked nose - 20-20 vision!!!!

    Are you developing your own futuristic lingo, kind of like the one in Clockwork Orange?

  160. @James Graham

    how many of the government employed african ‘engineers’ are actually engineers? i know some of the.m really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only
     
    Tis nothing new.

    Back in the golden Watson years, IBM's computer repair guys were "Customer Engineers."

    Programmers are now Software Engineers. People seem to think replacing one useful word with several high sounding words makes them seem intelligent.

  161. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @M_Young
    Maybe we can take a few seconds to remember Lily Burk, who would be 27 right now, and no doubt in a totally useless but still nice to have profession right now, NPR assistant producer or something.

    Notice the oblique photo the Times published of her murderer, something like 5 days after he was caught*.

    If there is one silver lining in a dark cloud about negroes, at least they have brains that are so full of shite that it makes them easy to catch. They leave fingerprints or DNA on everything, don’t understand that there is such a thing as video cameras and they usually brag about their crimes to someone.

  162. @Vabeachbabe
    Because you don’t bring a bean bag to a GUN FIGHT, jackass.

    Va, just saw your reply. I guess you didn’t realize I was being sarcastic. And just so you don’t feel bad, you are not the first to call me Jackass.

  163. Amy Harmon Retweeted:

    NYT:

    ‘I Will Not Say His Name’: Police Try to End Notoriety of Gunmen in Mass Shootings

    By Alan Blinder, Amy Harmon and Richard A. Oppel Jr

  164. @prime noticer
    how many of the government employed african 'engineers' are actually engineers? i know some of them really are, but i bet a lot of them are engineers in name only.

    in my old neighborhood when i was growing up i was friends with a good guy was paid like $80,000 a year to be an 'engineer' and he was really more like a maintenance manager. he did a good job but i would never describe him as an engineer. he was also a good gardener who taught other people about how to do it right.

    i read a more serious documentary about the NASA moon missions which said there were 12 african engineers working on the project, who i'm gonna assume were real deal actual engineers. that's 12 out of thousands of people, which is probably the reality on serious projects. i know they exist, but they're not common at all. president kennedy also kept that guy, ed dwight, in the astronaut pool, when he really shouldn't have been there. but at least dwight was a real pilot who was genuinely trying his best, even if he should have washed out every step of the astronaut training, like the other candidates who also came in last in all the tests.

    it was disappointing when obama came in and told chuck bolden that the NASA mission now was muslim outreach.

    “African Engineer” not a real engineer. “Some of them”, wow!!! I am guessing his Civil Engineering Degree from Old Dominion University would classify him as a “real engineer”. Or, maybe his Professional Engineering License would classify him as a real engineer.

    What is certain: 1) DeWayne is a murderer; 2) You are an a$$.

  165. @Alden
    Dewayne Antonio Craddock, what else could he be but black? Antonio Sanchez or Sidari could be Italian or hispanic/ Dewayne Craddock could be British White, But Dewayne Antonio Craddock can't be anything but black

    By their names ye shall know them.

    Your name is misspelled. I think you meant to type A$$hole.

  166. @Abolish_public_education
    PE is a total progressivist, Big Government sort of credential.

    I’ve known many, very talented engineers who work in the private sector.

    I doubt that few of them had even heard of such a credential, much less possessed one.

    Well, in 1980 my college room-mate’s father sat for the PE exam – it was a bear. He received his Master Degree from Princeton. Ran is own engineering consulting business. It is not a government credential – it is kind of like a accountant sitting for the CPA exam – getting that professional credential. Some very talented people are not able to achieve that accomplishment. Nonetheless, you go ahead with your attempt to diminish the accomplishment of many.

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