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From the New York Times movie section:

Stop Blaming History for Your All-White, All-Male Movie

Movies like “1917,” “The Irishman,” and “Ford v Ferrari” have all used their historical settings as a shield to deflect diversity critiques. But the past had people of color and women, too.

By Aisha Harris
Ms. Harris is an Op-Ed staff editor and writer.

Feb. 6, 2020

… When it comes to filmmakers guarding themselves against critiques for telling the same-old stories about white men, history is a powerful shield.

A quick glance at the best picture nominees reveals just how impenetrable that armor is: Of the nine films in this category, all but two spend the majority of their running times at least 39 years in the past. Each of these period pieces is overwhelmingly homogeneous when it comes to race, gender or both; the fact that they are set firmly in the past seemingly allows them to exist without much pushback.

“Ford v Ferarri,” for instance, is based on the true story of the rivalry between the rugged American car manufacturing behemoth and the Italian luxury carmaker during the 1960s. It’s the quintessential white “dad movie” — guys racing cars, guys talking about cars, guys arguing over cars. …

And in the comments section for a Newsweek article critical of Ms. Elliott’s “Ford v Ferrari” review, a reader snarkily wondered what she makes of NASA during the John F. Kennedy era. “Our walking on the moon, the space race should all be forgotten because there were no women or people of color,” they wrote.

“Wrong. Black females put men into outer space,” someone responded.

Indeed — Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson were mathematicians and engineers who worked at NASA during the height of the space race, yet it wasn’t until the 2016 release of the aptly titled movie dramatization of their lives, “Hidden Figures,” that the women were given their due onscreen.

There are countless other examples of women, people of color and L.G.B.T.Q. people being erased or sidelined from historically based films.

… All-white period dramas set in Tudor England overshadow the scholarly research that has in recent years uncovered a significant African presence and integration into English life during this era. (And they were not all enslaved.)

… Instead, the root of the criticisms of “The Irishman,” “1917” and the others like them for being so white and male seems to be a sense of weariness and boredom.

Why do the same stories about the same types of people keep getting made?

Because the most talented directors, writers, and actors tend to be white men?

… As Sage Young wrote in an essay on the ill-served wife character in “Ford v Ferrari” for NBC News, 61 women have driven in the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Where are their high-octane onscreen depictions?

Because the best finish by a woman at Le Mans was a 4th place in 1932?

That reminds me of a general pattern — there tend to be quite a few famous women race car drivers, aviatrixes, painters, etc. in their own day, just not in history. They tend to get squeezed out as their pastimes get more competitive and professionalized.

… British actors of color are finding more roles in period pieces, including David Oyelowo in last year’s PBS and BBC “Les Misérables” miniseries.

Yet there remains this pervasive assumption that the past was overwhelmingly white and male, and this blanket judgment gives filmmakers and Hollywood too-easy a pass. Not unlike our school textbooks, the movie industry cherry-picks from “history.” Certainly filmmakers should have the artistic freedom to make a movie about white men racing cars or white men in crime organizations. But let’s not pretend that this isn’t also a choice — a choice dictated not by the past, but by an erroneous (and perhaps unconscious) belief that white men have done the most and lived the most interesting lives of us all.

But what if — horrible as this thought is even to conceive –white men have done the most and lived the most interesting lives of us all?

After such knowledge, what forgiveness?

 
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  1. anon_382 says:

    women have unearned privilege

    • Replies: @taki
  2. “All-white period dramas set in Tudor England overshadow the scholarly research that has in recent years uncovered a significant African presence and integration into English life during this era. (And they were not all enslaved.)”

    Now that’s a lie. This is lie. There were no people of color in England during the Tudor Monarchy. Why would there have been? Integration? Come on. How would they have gotten there on their own from Nigeria, Uganda, etc? The African region that would’ve been thought of first that had the nautical means to sail to the UK was the region of Northern Africa, re: Islam. And Islam and Western Christendom weren’t on friendly terms during this era. And, England didn’t bring in peoples to work their farms and pick their cotton on the plantations. That’s another continent and another century away.

    Perhaps the writer is mistaking Tudor England for the later Georgian England. I mean, the official chronicles of those years certainly would’ve made mention of the fact that gaggles of Shantaviouses, Delroys, and Shanequas were living in the Midlands on the feudal manor estate of the fourth Earl of Warwick. As recently as 1950, the total population of blacks in the UK hovered at best about 1%. Therefore, going back five centuries or more would certainly not even put the total number at that.

    Why is it so important for diversity keepers that they need to prove that non-whites have always existed in historically white lands? No one makes the claim that whites lived in historically black lands thousands of years ago.

    And this whole “Peoples of color” thing. WHITE IS A COLOR.

    It does appear though, as if whenever an all white historical cast is done on a picture, that these hacks are going to push. It’s like eventually, the producers are going to have to push back and state the obvious: “NO, Rachel Jeantel, there were no black folks in England during the time of King Arthur, Richard the Lionheart, or during the merrie olde time of good King Henry the VIII. Sorry, but you can’t have that piece of history, it doesn’t belong to you.”

    It’s when these ignorant asinine statements are made in MSM that the push back has to be stated: PROVE IT. This is the historical factual record, that for centuries, white people actually lived in homogenous areas, with no contact from non-whites (blacks). Non-whites didn’t set foot in, much less reside among ordinary folks in England for centuries. And for much of Western Europe, for that matter. No one ever questioned that for centuries, and it’s a little late in the ball game to do so now. They can have Wakanda, and we’ll take England.

  3. aviatrixes

    It’s great that you bring back these classy old words, but it’s important to make sure they’re used correctly.

    aviatrix
    noun, plural a·vi·a·tri·ces”

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/aviatrix

    Another dictionary rudely added “Dated”, as if Rosalie Maggio is the final authority on these things. But the risk with “dated”, or worse, “archaic” terms is that we’ve forgotten how to use them. I cringe every time I see a modern writer misuse thou or ye, or know where –est and –eth go.

    Certainly filmmakers should have the artistic freedom to make a movie about white men racing cars or white men in crime organizations.

    But not about nonwhite men in crime organizations.

  4. Aisha Harris
    Ms. Harris is an Op-Ed staff editor and writer.

    Roxane Gay, Sarah Jeong, Jamelle Bouie, Farhad Manjoo, and on and on. Such is today’s New York Times. Meanwhile, all the Republicans have to show in November is that they’re significantly less psychotic than the Democrats. Are they up to it?

  5. guest says:

    If the past had people of color and wommenz in it, then why does the NYT badmouth it so often?

    Huh, BIGOTS?

    • Replies: @Lurker
  6. guest says:

    You are addressing one argument, Steve. Which is:

    why not pick stories about women/coloreds to tell?

    Which has too obvious an answer. The real question raised by the NYT is:

    why not jam characters who don’t belong into whatever stories you choose to tell?

    That’s what the Miserable does, and as a plus it probably both annoys and confuses audiences.

  7. guest says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Are we at a point yet where all organized crime has to be British/WASP or German, like happened to movie villains at least for a time?

    • Replies: @Michelle
  8. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Looks like the old Civil Defense logo at first glance.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  9. I notice that a lot of period pieces on Netflix use conspicuous amounts of racially diversity as well. For example, on Downton Abbey, which takes place in 1920s upper-crust Britain, they created an entire female character of aristocratic blood who first cavorted with a black American jazz musician and then later ended up marrying a rich and handsome Jewish financier. In “the Crown”, you’ll often see black men in 1950s England both working front-and-center in the factories visited by Queen Elizabeth II and also being in attendance at London high-society parties. The directors can ostensibly get away with this but know that what they’re really doing is creating a false illusion about how life really was back then.

  10. Typical leftist immersed in pop culture, they demand something ahistorical be put into movies, they then use the fact something appeared in a movie as “proof” that it actually happened in reality, fictionalized history becomes history.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  11. What it must be to wake every morning and know all the advantages in life come from the people you hate.

    • Agree: bomag
  12. The Jujutsu move here would be to cast a black woman as Hitler or Cortez.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  13. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Not only are they lying about the European past having so many and so prominent POCs, they are also lying about the current crop of movies not having them. 1917 was full of anachronistic Africans inserted randomly among the British infantry (but not among the Germans, strangely, lol). And then the infamous Sikh soldier character…

    There were Indian and African troops on the Western front of WWI, but they were not randomly sprinkled among the European troops; they served in their own units, speaking their own languages. They were—to use the now scarlet word—segregated. But then the Scots were segregated from the Northumberlanders were segregated from the Warwickshiremen were segregated from the Londoners etc., so what’s the big deal about segregation anyway?

    At least the Sikh was remotely plausible as perhaps someone who was separated from his regiment hitching a ride back to his sector, but all the random insertions were a much more insidious dishonesty, being more subtle yet further from reality.

  14. Lurker says:
    @guest

    Yes, if we always had diversity why do we now need it all over again?

  15. Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson were mathematicians and engineers who worked at NASA during the height of the space race

    To call them mathematicians is a stretch.

    • Replies: @guest
    , @Abe
    , @Hibernian
    , @Jack D
    , @Fox
  16. guest says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Hey buddy, they knew arithmetic. Can you boast of such achievements?

    • LOL: ben tillman
  17. guest says:
    @Almost Missouri

    During the sequence where Our Hero took a break to listen to an out-of-tune singer, the camera lingered for long enough on the face of a black soldier, center-screen, that I was sure it had to be deliberate frontlash against lack-of-diversity criticism.

    By the way, the Sikh was not depicted as having been separated from his unit. He did an impression of an officer he had in common with the soldiers present. I mean, he could be a quick study but I don’t think we’re supposed to believe we were in the presence of the Rich Little of the Great War.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Almost Missouri
  18. If you don’t like a certain kind of movie, then don’t buy a ticket. If European historical dramas involving white people are offensive to your sensibilities then by all means go see some fantasy superhero movie, or whatever meets with your approval.

    But the New York Times and it’s ilk have decided that the whole movie industry should actually be run as a public utility that must comply with PC “community standards.”

    What a nasty organization is the NYT. It’s mission is basically to take everything worthwhile about America and the West, and to dissolve it into some fake PC Third World soup.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Mike_from_SGV
  19. @Dave Pinsen

    Agree. If they want to POC-ify the protagonists, they should have to POC-ify the antagonists as well.

    It’s like the recent Cheddar Man controversy where woke archaeologists want to make stone age Britons black. Of course, stone age hunter-gatherers were also vicious cannibals, so woke archaeology is implicitly accusing blacks of being vicious cannibals, but somehow whenever cannibalism comes up, the ancient hunter-gatherers magically revert to being white again.

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Dissident
  20. Beckow says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    …scholarly research…

    The key point, the lynchpin of this nuttiness, is that there probably is ‘scholarly research‘ that has actually been published and presented that claims ‘well integrated‘ Africans in Tudor England. All the media hacks have to do is cherry-pick and exaggerate.

    When academia is overtaken by ideological zeal we get dysfunctional culture. Hollywood makes movies about fearless Viking female warriors, about lesbian lovers at medieval courts, and about heroic GI’s liberating concentration camps, in eastern Europe no less. Then they lamely refer to ‘scholastic studies’ for support. I think there were scholastic studies no long ago claiming that Africa was populated by weird species that has not discovered iron, writing or the institution of marriage. Can we refer to those when we make Wakanda II?

  21. Abe says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson were mathematicians and engineers who worked at NASA during the height of the space race

    To call them mathematicians is a stretch.

    Not to be vulgar (OK, I love to be vulgar) they were Casio pocket calculators that got periods.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  22. dearieme says:

    There was a handful of “black” (Caribbean mulatto) officers in the British Army in WWI. To pretend that they were representative would be daft but I suppose a sufficiently skilled scriptwriter could have one in a story without being absurdly preachy.

    There were many regiments from the Indian Army on the Western Front (and elsewhere) so it would be easy to show them without preachiness. Come to that there were lots of Chinese coolies, hired not to fight but to do logistics work. Someone gifted could probably write a decent yarn about them.

    But anyone who uncritically projects current obsessions onto the world of, say, 1917 is just being an ass.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @nebulafox
  23. Abe says:

    “Ford v Ferarri,” for instance, is based on the true story of the rivalry between the rugged American car manufacturing behemoth and the Italian luxury carmaker during the 1960s. It’s the quintessential white “dad movie” — guys racing cars, guys talking about cars, guys arguing over cars.

    While Ms. Aisha is complaining about someone’s complaining about a movie review complaining… Elon Musk is right here right now living a life that will be the stuff of at least a dozen “dad movies” (FORD VS FERRARI, THE AVIATOR, TUCKER A MAN AND HIS DREAM- let’s hope not MULLHOLLAND DRIVE) and he’s not even freakin’ 50 yet!

    Poor Aisha (basic black name with Muslim cultural appropriation on top?)- coulda been a historical game-changer and sent a Le Ferrari to Mars too, but the emotional labor of writing meta articles about Oscar diversity bean-counting was her great undoing…

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
  24. I suspect that if we made a movie about say, Shaka Zulu massacring and landgrabbing all before him, that would be racist.

    • Replies: @RebelWriter
    , @moshe
  25. @Beckow

    Viking female warriors

    Leif Ericson’s sister, Ms. Ericdottir, was the Scourge of the Skraelings.

    • LOL: Muggles
  26. @Canadian Observer

    Evelyn Waugh’s first novel, 1928’s “Decline and Fall,” features a black American jazz singer, Chokey, who is sleeping with Lady Metroland.

    I’m thinking that there was pretty much one guy who was cutting a swath through fashionable society.

  27. slumber_j says:

    yet it wasn’t until the 2016 release of the aptly titled movie dramatization of their lives, “Hidden Figures,” that the women were given their due onscreen.

    You gotta love the blunt stupidity of that “aptly titled”–maybe one of the NYT-est things ever written.

    A minor obsession of mine is the dogged witlessness of headlines in the Times, with their comma-riddled overcomplication and occasional horrifying stabs at humor. I guess the paper has now opened a new front in its quest, letting us all in on what the filmmakers did there with that movie title. Amazing.

    • Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki
  28. conatus says:

    OFF TOPIC
    This article from the Silver Spring, Maryland Patch is all about the Hair War.
    What happened to Freedom of Association for Hair?

    Cowsills
    “Give me me a head with long beautiful hair
    “Shining, gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen”

    ‘Flaxen waxen’ shall be no more

    politics & government
    Shared from Rockville, MD
    Discrimination Against Natural Hairstyles Illegal Under New Law
    Montgomery County’s new law, dubbed the CROWN ACT, prohibits discrimination based on natural hairstyle.
    By Alessia Grunberger, Patch Staff
    Feb 7, 2020 1:15 pm ET
    Montgomery County’s new law, dubbed the CROWN ACT, prohibits discrimination based on natural hairstyle.
    Montgomery County’s new law, dubbed the CROWN ACT, prohibits discrimination based on natural hairstyle. (Michael Dodge/Stringer, Getty Images)

    ROCKVILLE, MD — In Montgomery County, it is now illegal to discriminate against people based on their natural hairstyle.

    Effective Feb. 6, The CROWN Act — which stands for Creating a Respectful and Open World for Natural Hair — prohibits discrimination in employment, housing, and other public services based on natural hairstyles historically associated with race. Afros, twists, curls, braids, and locks are all protected under this new law.

    A person who is discriminated against because of a natural hairstyle can seek a civil penalty of up to $5,000 through the county’s Office of Human Rights.

    Councilmember Will Jawando and Council President Nancy Navarro, both Democrats, introduced the measure to the county council in September 2019.

    Jawando said these “outdated standards” of beauty and grooming are used as a “weapon to discriminate against people of color.” And that such standards are introduced to minority groups at a young age — be it through television or school dress codes.

    “I will never forget the first time one of my daughters asked me why her hair wasn’t straight like the girls on television,” Jawando said last year. “I told her she was beautiful the way she was created, and that I would fight to ensure that no one would force her, or her hair, to be otherwise.”

    Navarro, who is a mother of two Afro-Latina daughters, said she also knows the effect that certain grooming standards have on people of color.

    “(The CROWN Act) is another step forward for advancing racial equity in Montgomery County – employees should not have to fear retaliation for simply choosing a hairstyle,” said Navarro when the bill was first introduced. “As a mother of two amazing Afro-Latina daughters, I know the struggles of a society that puts arbitrary constraints on one of the most personal expressions of culture and ethnicity – a person’s hairstyle.”

  29. Beckow says:
    @Steve Sailer

    …Ms. Ericdottir, was the Scourge of the Skraelings.

    Yep, she yelled at the hapless Greenland Aborigines and flashed her boob. That calls for a movie of its own. But are Eskimos considered POC? It could be messy, gender-color confusion…

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Autochthon
  30. Momus says:
    @guest

    Lots of Australians aboriginals enlisted and fought in WW1.

    • Replies: @guest
    , @Almost Missouri
  31. anonymous[815] • Disclaimer says:

    The protagonists of those movies aren’t Hindu-American dorks with arranged marriages.The white kids are confused.

  32. “there tend to be quite a few famous women race car drivers, aviatrixes, painters, etc. in their own day, just not in history.”

    Just to be pedantic, the plural of aviatrix is aviatrices. See Aviatrices Romae antiquae, published DCCXIV.

  33. “Why do the same stories about the same types of people keep getting made?”

    Because identity politics is boring.

    Because you can get as much grievance mongering, self pity, racial matyrdom, and anti white horseshit as you want for free from the mainstream media.

    Because Americans in the civil rights era and beyond are the most tedious, mendacious, childish, ignorant, stupid, one dimensional, timid, codependent, cucked, weak minded people who have ever existed, and there are no interesting stories to tell about them.

    Because everyone-even “colored people”- secretly wishes they were living in a country like the us was, instead of the cheap, shabby, slobby, loud, banal mess this place is today.

  34. Medvedev says:
    @Almost Missouri

    hey were not randomly sprinkled among the European troops; they served in their own units, speaking their own languages. They were—to use the now scarlet word—segregated

    Correct. And to add to this, most of the fighting was carried out by White soldiers while Blacks carried out supportive role:

    Once deployed, all fighting was carried out by white soldiers, while the BWIR were given support work loading ammunition, laying cables and digging trenches. Most were unarmed.
    https://retronaut.com/content/1914-1918-black-british-forces-of-wwi

    Africans inserted randomly among the British infantry (but not among the Germans, strangely, lol).

    Every negative trait should be associated with Whites and Whites only. Whenever Black or POCs are responsible never mention, deflect or try to blame Whitey.
    Just like this story:

    Rural Montana Had Already Lost Too Many Native Women. Then Selena Disappeared.
    For decades, with little public notice, Native women have gone missing or been found murdered. The search for Selena Not Afraid showed how much things had changed.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/us/selena-not-afraid-missing-montana.html

    Why so many ‘Native women’ are missing or murdered? Who is responsible for this?

  35. Hibernian says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    No one ever questioned that for centuries, and it’s a little late in the ball game to do so now.

    That’s the rational answer. It has precious little support anymore.

  36. El Dato says:
    @Abe

    To call them mathematicians is a stretch.

    Well, as Captain Kirk said in the 2014 J.J. Abrams diversity docudrama:

    “Punch it!”

    Also:

    … British actors of color are finding more roles in period pieces, including David Oyelowo in last year’s PBS and BBC “Les Misérables” miniseries.

    How the cuck is there a “person of color” in post-Congress-of-Vienna France?

    There isn’t even one in Jules Verne stories.

  37. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Aviatrix is so commonly used as the singular form in newspaper articles, etc., that it seems to be an accepted practice. I remember this clearly WRT Amelia Earhart going back to when I was a kid.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  38. El Dato says:

    Aisha Harris does not provide a serious critique, but a heartfelt call to disallow or possibly outlaw all “movies” not full of diversity crap and awkwardly shoehorned negro/femgro/colgro superiority, produced according to written requirements of the Diversity Sages of Babylon, under penalty of canceling or even death. Then the populace should probably be “invited” to watch it. It’s Stalin at the theatre, fulminating against reactionary works. Unserious, hateful bullshit.

    Meanwhile, from RT, we get TWO critiques for the price of one:

    ‘Feminist upgrade’ takes on ‘misogynist nonsense’: ‘Birds of Prey’ is teaching filmmakers exactly how NOT to sell a movie

    And also:

    DC’s ‘Birds of Prey’ hates men, but wants their money – no wonder it’s bombing at the box office

    What’s so bizarre about the supposed girl power message of the movie is that, while it relentlessly tells us that men are despicable creatures, all of the female characters are lionized for trying to behave like men. As with the recent batch of feminist movies such as 2019’s ‘Charlie’s Angels’ reboot and ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’, ‘Birds of Prey’ believes that feminism means women should act like men.

    Even more baffling is the cinematic schizophrenia of ‘Birds of Prey’, as it obviously loathes men yet is so desperate for their attention it serves up a steady supply of hyper-violence. As Harley Quinn says, “nothing gets a guy’s attention like violence… blow something up, shoot someone.”

    This is what happens when you put a confused agenda ahead of a good story

    Totally coincidentally, the New York Times published an op-ed by actress Brit Marling, titled ‘I Don’t Want to be the Strong Female Lead’ on the day ‘Birds of Prey’ premiered.

    In the piece Marling describes strong female leads by saying “She’s an assassin, a spy, a soldier, a superhero, a CEO. She can make a wound compress out of a maxi pad while on the lam. She’s got MacGyver’s resourcefulness but looks better in a tank top.”

    In some ways this applies to ‘Birds of Prey’, since the women in it are smarter, tougher and stronger than the men, except they have been stripped of their sex appeal in a convoluted attempt to be pro-feminist.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  39. The epicenters of the Great Awokening were universities and Hollywood (especially Quentin Tarantino whose Django Unchained might have triggered resentment).

    Now Hollywood, the greatest allies of the Great Intersectionalitarian Cultural Revolution, seems to be turning its back on them, including Tarantino.

    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/01/220956/golden-globes-2019-winners-old-people-of-color-diversity-women

    Meanwhile, the climate on American universities has quietly cooled down a lot (even Berkeley!)

    https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-campus-free-speech-crisis-ended-last-year/

    I would say we are in the equivalent year of 1970 with relation to the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution and the Gang of Four are fighting back.

  40. Hibernian says:
    @ScarletNumber

    In those days people with baccalaureate degrees in math were calculating clerks – people with backgrounds that might qualify them for entry level IT positions today. They were certainly not aero engineers at the time; a few or at least one of them might have become one later on.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    , @Jack D
  41. @Almost Missouri

    It could be argued that the French Army by 1917 was the most ethnically diverse army ever fielded. They had troops from African colonies, Indochina, Algeria etc.

    Of course, it could also be argued WWI was a bad idea so there’s not much to celebrate in 1917.

  42. @Redneck farmer

    But they did. It was a mini-series that ran in the 80’s. It was actually very well done. I recorded it on VHS, and rewatched it many times. I’ve not seen it broadcast in decades, but you can watch it on YouTube.

  43. @Abe

    50+ years after civil rights we still aren’t getting the amazing inventions racism stopped blacks from inventing.

  44. @Steve Sailer

    This is making the tails appear to be the mean. There WERE a handful of female Viking warriors, who were probably fearsome against monks and farmers, but would die in seconds against a male Viking warrior. There WERE a handful of blacks in Scotland; about 20 or so, at some point in the middle ages. We know they existed because their genes are detectable today in some Scots. In the overall history of both of these, neither female Viking warriors or black Scots contributed enough to be significant, but are talismans for the woke.

    Where blacks were more numerous than anywhere else in British history was the navy of the late 18th and early 19th centuries. There were also Asian sailors, eastern and southern, as well as Islanders, in the British navy as well. In a movie about the British navy of the time, diverse characters would be historically authentic. In a movie about 12th Century Scotland, they would not.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  45. Arclight says:

    The end of this post gets at what all the wokeness is really about: The people of Western civilization cannot be forgiven for their success.

    So while trying to make the case that Western civ is really not all that great, they also try to horn in on it by claiming POCs were present all along and playing key roles.

    • Agree: Ian Smith
  46. Medvedev says:

    “Wrong. Black females put men into outer space,” someone responded.

    Why so many Blacks, like Aisha Harris, are megalomaniacs full of themselves?
    In one paragraph they can blame that engineering field/NASA was all-White, no Blacks allowed and at the same time claim that “Black females put men into space”. There is no point arguing, most Blacks have ego beyond reach despite having IQ of a mildly retarded White/Asian.

    The most hilarious part in the movie (if I recall it correctly) … “who knows linear algebra?”. Literally no one in the office full of White people (best and brightest scientists, engineers, mathematicians of their time) knows linear algebra. Black female genius to the rescue!

  47. guest says:
    @Momus

    That was not an aboriginal. In any case, did colonials mix with regulars like that? I doubt it.

  48. bomag says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    But the New York Times and it’s ilk have decided that the whole movie industry should actually be run as a public utility that must comply with PC “community standards.”

    This.

    Last time I checked, there are plenty of foreign movies; the Times can spend some time telling us how great those are, and most don’t have a white person in sight.

    Or maybe the ambition of reporters can hector Nollywood and Bollywood about THEIR lack of diversity.

    More likely, there will be hand-wringing about the best Youtube videos having too much White influence.

  49. guest says:
    @Steve Sailer

    That’s a satire, featuring a man getting expelled from Oxford do for having his pants stolen, as well as a character called Lady Circumference with a son named Tangent. Perhaps we should take it with a grain of salt.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  50. @Hibernian

    My dad had a master’s degree in mathematics, and in early 1942, for a few months, was assigned to the war effort as a civilian “computer”, computing ballistics trajectories for the military. He recalled that the job was like being on a chain-gang for anyone with any mathematical talent or training, and that the work was mind-numbingly limited and boring.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Deadite
  51. guest says:
    @Canadian Observer

    I don’t know enough to say whether a negro jazz outfit would be invited to play a country estate in the 20s. If they did, you can be sure they’d watch the lilly-white young ladies around them.

    I do know New Money in that period would be looking to marry into titled families. But Jewish New Money? I dunno. The family would make a bigger deal about it than shown. I don’t remember whether this or that side was compelled to convert, but you’d think both sides would at least to pretend about the faith of potential children.

  52. Jack D says:

    Last night I was listening to NPR radio and they had their “black” show on and the host was interviewing a Bernie campaign volunteer and her complaint was that New Hampshire was too white. She felt it should be less white so that she could feel more comfortable there but at the very least they should hold the first primary someplace that is less white.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Altai
  53. bomag says:
    @Some Guy

    …actress Gabrielle Union… claimed she was fired from NBC’s America’s Got Talent after being told that her hairstyles were “too black.” Other actresses point to the discrimination that occurs pretty much every time they sit in a hair and makeup chair

    It all has to burn.

    “This isn’t specifically for vanity. It’s the fact that systemic racism is so deeply ingrained in our industry that we are so forgotten about all of the time that this is normal.”

    But then burning is far too nice of a consequence.

  54. @SteveSailer – i keep reading your titles thinking you’re just exaggerating and paraphrasing to be funny…. then i look and it’s the actual title…

  55. @Mr McKenna

    Listening to ugly Cajun James Carville rage about this is pretty funny.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/7/21123518/trump-2020-election-democratic-party-james-carville

    “I want to give you an example of the problem here. A few weeks ago, Binyamin Appelbaum, an economics writer for the New York Times, posted a snarky tweet about how LSU canceled classes for the National Championship game. And then he said, do the “Warren/Sanders free public college proposals include LSU, or would it only apply to actual schools?”

    You know how fucking patronizing that is to people in the South or in the middle of the country? First, LSU has an unusually high graduation rate, but that’s not the point. It’s the goddamn smugness. This is from a guy who lives in New York and serves on the Times editorial board and there’s not a single person he knows that doesn’t pat him on the back for that kind of tweet. He’s so fucking smart.”

    Seems like only a matter of time before some rogue member of the Twitterati tries to get Carville cancelled. But how to harpoon him?

    • Replies: @Servant of Gla'aki
  56. Jack D says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Johnson had a background as a high school math teacher. She seemed to be the most qualified of the bunch and was promoted accordingly (meaning that she was given more challenging work than just endlessly adding up columns of numbers).

    What people don’t realize is that organizations are always desperate for talent. If anyone (black, blue or green) shows any talent then they get used because talent is always in short supply. OTOH, the black women that they kept in a back room adding up numbers were there for a reason also.

  57. moshe says:
    @Redneck farmer

    The only reason you have even heard of Shaka Zulu is because of the incredibly famous eponymous series that is streaming on Netflix.

    Oh, and David Duke would call it racist.

    (It’s damn good)

  58. Neoconned says:

    Once upon a time I wanted to be a director, like seriously wanted to move to L.A. etc

    Glad I didnt. What w everything shifting to Netflix etc I dunno if there’s as much creative freedom as there was in the 90s, probably not.

    I’d be having my mod life crisis now given the studios & producers weren’t enough to derail a good idea from fruition….

  59. Jack D says:
    @Hibernian

    For the most part someone with a BS in math would have (eventually) been given something more challenging than being a “computer” (this was the name of that job), if they showed any ability. For example, someone had to set up the problems that the others would solve. Being a “computer” was mostly women’s work because men could not withstand the boredom. In the old days, it was well understood that women were better for certain jobs like telephone operator, typist, electronic assembly, etc. just as men were better for other jobs.

    At Los Alamos, Feynman was given a bunch of male draftees right out of high school but who had been screened for mathematical talent to be his computers. They were supposed to operate the IBM punch card machines which were crude mechanical computers. At first, they were not told what they were working on for security reasons and they were bored out of their minds and their productivity was low. Feynman got permission to tell them a little bit about what problem they were trying to solve. Soon they divided themselves up into competing teams and each team thought up clever ways to speed up their work – they color coded the decks of cards and solved problems in parallel, etc. and their productivity went up exponentially.

  60. @Momus

    If you see* the movie, you’ll see these guys** are not Abos.

    Also, if you’ve been checking the Abo front in World War Woke, you’ll have noticed a lot of “Abos” are fairly white.

    *Which I can’t recommend doing. The movie is not really all that great, for the reasons that Steve gave in his tepid review. I rather regret the ten bucks or whatever I spent on it.

    **They are depicted as if separate characters, but they may in fact have been a single actor re-interspersed through ensuing scenes.

  61. Blubb says:

    We may just as well ask: why is everyone before the year ca 1910 always dirty, even if his profession would not give any cause for having dirt in the face?
    Why are Roman and medieval times always depicted with white marble and brown and white houses and churches, when in fact they were painted RIOTOUSLY with colour? Why do Vikings appear in plain weave, when their clothes were usually richly patterned reminiscent of Indian traditional clothing?

    And lastly, dear Pocks, if you have interesting stories to tell, WHY ARE YOU NOT TELLING THEM?! I’m so bored by what Hollywood offers us, same old, same old, why are we not hearing of Shasta the spider warrior or whatever? PLEASE, I BEG YOU! Write it! I’m so bored…

  62. @conatus

    “prohibits discrimination … based on natural hairstyles historically associated with race. Afros … are all protected under this new law.”

    I’ve never seen an actual African with an “Afro”, so I wonder how it qualifies as a “natural historical” hairstyle? Maybe now the 1970s is ancient natural history?

  63. jimla says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    There were Blacks in England in the Tudor Era, Queen Catherine of Aragon brought over her Black servants. Remember the pirates: They attacked Spanish ships with slaves on it. Some of those were brought over to England. Since there were no plantations in England they remained a curiosity but mostly nobody cared and they intermarried within their class.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  64. Lurker says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    They certainly confuse using fictional TV/movies to illustrate a point with using them to prove a point. They do this a lot.

    • Agree: Servant of Gla'aki
  65. Medvedev says:

    “Wrong. Black females put men into outer space,”

    Even in today world with push for affirmative action and diversity Blacks comprise ~2% of engineers at leading Tech companies. 20-25% females would translate into 0.4-0.5% of all being Black females.
    How many of them aren’t diversity hires and were truly hired based on merit? Hard to say, but half will be too generous, which leaves us with less than 0.2%. In today world, where major companies can source Black talent from all over Africa to fill diversity positions which they cannot possibly fill with Whites/Indians/Asians ))))

    And we are to believe that during evil Jim Crow era, segregation, “no Blacks allowed” policies, when Blacks comprised just 10% of population, when we didn’t outsource best and brightest from Africa to fill diversity hire positions … “Black females put men into outer space”. Utter bullsh*t.

    If you want to talk about talent, last year Hungary won 1 Gold, 3 Silver and 2 Bronze medals in the International Math olympiad.
    I dare anyone who claims Black genius to find 6 Black medalists in Math Olympiad in the past 50 years.
    What 1 billion Black Africa and 40 million American Blacks produced in the last 50 years compared with what Hungary produced in one year alone

    https://www.imo-official.org/year_country_r.aspx?year=2019

    • Replies: @Duke84
  66. Ragno says:

    Unfortunately for the Times and their identity-politics hires, the one female pioneer in male-dominated arenas who didn’t require her accomplishments to be ginned up by Walter Duranty-type “journalism” was the great Nazi aviatrix Hanna Reitsch.

    To characterize her life story as thrilling and inspirational is to undersell it….hers is a story that the Times toads would have to gin down, by inventing spurious RAF boyfriends, anti-Nazi grandads held hostage by the Reich, scenes of Hanna spitting on Hitler’s portrait, ad nauseum. None of which were remotely true, of course. Indeed, the most thrilling & inspirational aspects of her life, aside from her courageous feats of aviation, were her dedication to her country, her immunity to cowardice and enemy propaganda, and her willingness to recognize the limitations of her sex as the natural order.

    No, they wouldn’t dare dramatize the actual life and deeds of Hanna Reitsch….not if they expect to continue selling younger generations airbrushed myths like Amelia Earhart.

    • Replies: @Fox
  67. Lurker says:
    @conatus

    Jawando said these “outdated standards” of beauty and grooming are used as a “weapon to discriminate against people of color.”

    Jawando the beauty mutilator.

  68. @guest

    Yeah, you’re right. I gave Mendes too much credit.

  69. Because the most talented directors, writers, and actors tend to be white men?

    Either that, or stories about amazing things that white men have accomplished are more interesting than stories about “my hair.”

  70. @Beckow

    What scholarly research? Peer reviewed and all? Then she should post a link to it if its so well known and established. That’d be like claiming that there’s scholarly research that DNA is a figment of imagination and does not exist. Anyone can claim that there’s scholarly research for anything without presenting the proof. Think about it. For centuries, no one ever questioned that the UK was 100% caucasian. Now suddenly a few years ago, we’re expected to just take their word for it and that yeah, blacks existed in Tudor England. Seriously? Then present the proof.

    How did they arrive there? Remember, England didn’t start gaining Carribbean colonies until the seventeenth century, and those Africans brought to the New World were for slaves. England itself didn’t practice slavery in England (due to Christianity, among other factors). And why the UK itself need slavery when they already had more than enough workers in their own nation? Its almost as if the writer subconsciously thinks that “Well, the US currently brings in immigrants of color to do the jobs that Americans just won’t do, so obviously this type of thing has always existed in white nations.” What jobs were Africans doing in 16th century Kent, Suffolk, Norfolk, York, and Manchester that native whites weren’t doing? Doesn’t make sense, doesn’t add up.

    It’s time to call BS on these throwaway lines so casually tossed around by hacks. Would this writer have even gotten a job at the NYT if she were not a POC? Think Jayson Blair some years back.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  71. @Beckow

    Boob? was she a monomamarrarian?

    • Replies: @Beckow
  72. @Steve Sailer

    From wikipedia:

    When she returned to her husband, Freydis claimed Helgi and Finnbogi had beaten her, and, calling him a coward, demanded that he exact revenge on her behalf, or else she would divorce him. He gathered his men and killed Helgi and Finnbogi as well as the men in their camp when they were sleeping. When he refused to kill the five women in the camp, Freydis herself picked up an axe and massacred them.

  73. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    But what if — horrible as this thought is even to conceive –white men have done the most and lived the most interesting lives of us all?

    Why the need for blacks to part of white history than their own?

    And what percentage of Brits were black in Tudor England? And why would that be a point of pride for blacks when the Britain back then was imperialist?

    Blacks:

    1. “white history was racist, imperialist, murderous, and shit.”

    2. “blacks had a proud role in white history and shit.”

    That would imply blacks happily collaborated in white history’s ‘crimes’.

    Blacks:

    1. “sending whiteys to the moon was a massive waste of money that could have been spent on black folks.”

    2. “it was black women who done send the white boys to the moon. it’s about black pride.”

    Sheeeeeeiiiit.

    Of the nine films in this category, all but two spend the majority of their running times at least 39 years in the past.

    The dreaded past. Then, why do they deep drudging up the Civil Rights era to make movies? That was LONG ago.

    Also, why no movies about Nakba? Why no movies about how BLM increased murder rates? Yeah, let’s have more real truth.

    Btw, epic movies tend to take place in the past turned mythic/nostalgic.

    GODFATHER came out in the 70s but was about the 40s.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  74. white men have done the most and lived the most interesting lives of us all?

    No man is an island.

    When his story is told so to is the story of those who made him.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Wilkey
  75. Art Deco says:

    Indeed — Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson were mathematicians and engineers who worked at NASA during the height of the space race, yet it wasn’t until the 2016 release of the aptly titled movie dramatization of their lives, “Hidden Figures,” that the women were given their due onscreen.

    None of these women were engineers and I don’t believe any of them had a research degree in mathematics or statistics. At least one did publish in professional and academic literature. They were subaltern technicians employed by NASA. There’s nothing to belittle there, it’s just that randomly selected professional-technical civil service employees are seldom the subject of biopics, so the film itself wouldn’t be their ‘due’.

    About the author “She is an alumnus of Northwestern University and New York University with degrees in theatre and cinema studies.” Richard Grenier offered about a generation back that film reviewers tend to live in a ‘cinematographical culture’ and believe that they can glean all they need to know about the world by going to the movies. It would appear that this is still a problem.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  76. I’m really starting to hate February. Peak Negro Fatigue … plus, of course, the crappy weather where I live.

    Hibernation may be the answer.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  77. Art Deco says:

    That reminds me of a general pattern — there tend to be quite a few famous women race car drivers, aviatrixes, painters, etc. in their own day, just not in history. They tend to get squeezed out as their pastimes get more competitive and professionalized.

    You get someone whose a satisfactory rank-and-file performer who gets a great deal of attention due to the novelty of it all. Danica Patrick would be a recent example. Denise McCluggage was a remarkable dynamo in her prime and had a hatfull of personal accomplishments that most of us do not. One thing she did was compete on the auto racing circuit. She was a competitor and one of the boys, but that was all she was in that sphere. What Amelia Earhart was doing was being done by dozens of others (and she had peers among women pilots who were dubious about her technical skills).

  78. J.Ross says:

    Mass shooting in … Thailand?
    Shooter is soldier or ex-soldier, gun looks like H&K G3 (7.62 NATO) like much of Western Europe used. Weapons taken from a military base. Some of the shots are supposed to have been over a distance. Victims possibly 20. Thai government will issue a statement at midnight local.
    It is claimed the assailant got screwed buying his house (“For the last time Franklin, I’m sorry you lost money but it’s not going in!”). This has more to do with the original incident of the Arab Spring than with the lies and unchallenged ritual repetitions the media babbles about mass shooters. He was apparently screwed by a superior officer exploiting social class privileges. All these New Americans we have coming in now, all of them, come from the global ethical norm, which requires mercilessly tricking people. In the past that person is then supposed to just weep and be your slave forever. Now they can fight back, and that’s a bad thing.

  79. You know, this push for diversity should be called what it is, “mainstreaming”. Just like putting retards with regular kids in public schools.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  80. inertial says:

    “Wrong. Black females put men into outer space,” someone responded.

    I’m pretty sure this was sarcasm, but Ms. Harris is not equipped to understand that. How long before one of the Times’ affirmative action journalists quotes Steve Sailer?

  81. donut says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’m not really into aviatrices but for those who are PornHub has a whole category of that sort of thing .

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  82. Mr. Anon says:

    Indeed — Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson were mathematicians and engineers who worked at NASA during the height of the space race, yet it wasn’t until the 2016 release of the aptly titled movie dramatization of their lives, “Hidden Figures,” that the women were given their due onscreen.

    Indeed – “Hidden Figures” was a concatenation of lies. The very title of the movie being the first one – it is made out to be some kind of mathematical term. It isn’t. None of the women portrayed were “mathemeticians”. And the vignette shown were the SBL (Sassy Black Lady) programs an IBM 7030 when the IBM technicians themselves are completely befuddled by it was obvious BS.

  83. @Steve Sailer

    The Lady Metroland character was a clear allusion to Nancy Cunard (the shipping heiress), as is the female aristocrat in Downton Abbey depicted as having an affair with a black American jazz musician. It was Nancy Cunard, not her paramour, that cut the swath.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Cunard

  84. Wilkey says:
    @Desiderius

    A mother’s contribution includes the lifetime contributions of her children, her grandchildren, and so on. If she decides not to create that life, that entire chain of being ends. Mothers create for the next thousand years… not the next fiscal quarter.

    So very true. For reasons we could argue over for generations, women do not rise to the same heights of achievement as men do. Smart women can spend their lifetimes trying to achieve at the same level as the smartest men, and often have few if any children in their efforts to do so. But smart women are more likely to have smart sons who achieve great things than to achieve greatness themselves.

    The average person doesn’t know much about the mothers of Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton, but we all know that they had mothers, who were probably extremely intelligent themselves. If instead of having become mothers they had spent their lives trying to achieve intellectual greatness they would probably have contributed not 1/100th of what their sons accomplished, and we would have missed out on all that their sons gave to the world.

    What idiocy feminism has given the world.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  85. Anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:

    RIP Orson Bean, 91

    Hit by a car. Was it a drunken steezer?

  86. Altai says:
    @Canadian Observer

    In fairness there would have been the first waves of the ‘Windrush’ generation Jamaicans in factories at the time. I’ve never seen it so perhaps they exaggerate the numbers. But among the upper classes in the 50s? That’s just silly, there wouldn’t even be many independent Sub-Saharan countries at the time if they’re supposed to be foreign dignitaries.

  87. … scholarly research that has in recent years uncovered a significant African presence and integration into English life during this era.

    Uhhh, OK. I’ll play. I vaguely recall an article discussing “African” remains dating to the 13th century being unearthed in England, and there were even pictures of very black Africans in knights’ armour, but the further discussion indicated the person was a North African, from lands that had been occupied by Phoenecians, Romans, Vandals, etc.

    But hey: Nobody defeats a Black Knight!

    • Replies: @Aldon
  88. Fox says:
    @ScarletNumber

    In the past, i.e., before the age of electronic calculating machines, tables of logarithms, sine, cosh, exponentials, etc. were often calculated by mathematics students at universities in recitation and exercise sessions, as homework or special assignment by inserting numbers in complicated mathematical expressions and then getting busy with multiplying, dividing, etc. very crooked numbers. These calculations are tedious, repetitive and require care. They were double- and triple-checked by successive classes and eventually printed in bookform for use by people who use them. That’s where a 200 page book with logarithms, hyperbolic function values, etc. was coming from 100, even 70 years ago. Nowadays, it is a trivial task to obtain these numbers with high accuracy from a cheap pocket calculator, but it wasn’t like that in the past.
    My understanding of the role of these black, female and possibly LGBTX “mathematicians” is that they did exactly that, they inserted numbers into complicated equations, which were worked out by engineers, physicists, and perhaps chemists and astronomers, and which only could be solved numerically (i.e., by plugging in numbers successfully and doing tedious adding, multiplying, dividing and subtracting).
    This was important, but only footwork.

  89. Altai says:
    @Jack D

    Mosley explains. “Unfortunately a lot of the people who spend the most time with black and brown skin find it difficult to get these opportunities because the [unionized] makeup and hair industry is nepotistic in nature.

    Non-actors in union.
    Hollwood Reporter: Is this racist?

  90. @Art Deco

    Evidently Hedy Lamarr was legit, if only as a dilettante.

  91. even the Smithsonian is doing this now. they made a recent series called Europe’s Last Warrior Kings, and in the episode about 1066 and William the Conqueror, they show one of his main guys as some random african. it’s total bullshit.

    i posted in an Anatoly thread how in fictional shows and movies, they’ve been making the scientist or computer genius an african guy going back into the 80s, but i recently saw some British sci fi from the 70s, and even there, they made the computer genius a blackish mulatto guy.

  92. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    i live in a small Norwegian town, i was born in 1975.
    I DID NOT SEE A NEGRO IRL BEFORE I WAS 12, THE FIRST VIETNAMESE BOAT REFUGEE CAME IN 1983. That Vietnamese family was THE only foreign family in our town until the murcan terrorist regime started bombing The Balkans… So the arguments the woke crowd is spewing, falls kind of flat here, bur we still hear it tho…

    • Thanks: Lot
  93. @Wilkey

    One can play tennis with a Stradivarius but, with rare exceptions, one would lose to a man using a racket designed for that purpose. More importantly, one would do grevious harm to an invaluable instrument designed for a higher one.

  94. danand says:

    Article from NBC news:

    New study shows racism may shorten black Americans’ lifespans
    The study’s results link stress from increased experiences with racial discrimination to more rapid aging in African Americans.

    Feb. 5, 2020, 12:06 PM PST
    By Liam Knox

    African Americans who reported more experiences with racial discrimination are likely to age faster, adding to evidence that racism is not only a “social and moral dilemma” but also a “public health issue,” according to an Auburn University study published last month.

    According to the study, encountering racism can lead to higher levels of stress, which in turn causes cells to age more rapidly. The adverse health effects of racism on African Americans are well documented, but the Auburn study focuses on its effects on telomeres, pieces of DNA that protect cells.

    The results show a link between increased experiences with racial discrimination and the more rapid shortening of those telomeres, an indication of cell aging.

    “Our results point to how racial discrimination, a particular type of social toxin that disproportionately impacts African Americans, becomes embedded at the cellular level,” David Chae, director of Auburn’s Society, Health and Racial Equity Lab, who led the research team, said in a statement.

    Nearly 400 African Americans from Birmingham, Alabama; Chicago; Minneapolis; and Oakland, California, participated in the study, which began in 2000 and was published in the journal Health Psychology. At the time the study began, they were 40 years old on average.

    Sierra Carter, a psychology professor at Georgia State University and the leader of another study on racism and aging published in September, said the Auburn study’s results are in line with a growing body of research on the role racism plays in lowering life expectancy for African Americans. She said that over time, experiences with racism and even chronic worrying about it can cause significant “wear and tear” by increasing one’s allostatic load, the lifelong buildup of stress, which accelerates aging and puts African Americans at greater risk for chronic illnesses.

    “If we start thinking about racial discrimination as a chronic social stimuli, it fits in with all our models, both medical models and psychological models, of what happens when your body is never able to reach a balanced state,” she said. “Your body is trying to find that balance, that homeostasis, but it isn’t able to get there because stressor continues to happen.”

    Carter’s study looked at how the stress of racism can lead to accelerated aging in African American children, while the Auburn study focused on middle-age adults. But the results, Carter said, point to the same conclusion: Racism’s effects on the mind and body warrant further exploration.

    According to the Auburn study, participants experienced racial discrimination “on the street or in public” more than anywhere else. The two next most common settings were in the office or while trying to get hired.

    Carter said that one practical response to the growing body of research on racism, aging and chronic illness would be for health services institutions to recognize that racial sensitivity is an essential part of ensuring healthy outcomes for a diverse patient pool.

    “Just like we have things like trauma-informed care, I believe we need to have racism-informed care,” she said.

    For Chae, the Auburn study results carry a lesson: Racism is alive and well, and its harm goes beyond the social, economic and political realms.

    “Racism continues to be a pressing social and moral dilemma, as well as a public health issue,” he wrote.

    Carter agreed and added that Americans’ inability to recognize behavior or treatment that is racist only contributes to those public health issues. Her prescription: open and honest conversations about race.

    “Our society has a long history of difficulty addressing its past and present racist practices,” she said. “What prevents things from happening is people have these fears of what doing something racist means about them personally, when really a conversation needs to be had. People are dying.”

  95. J1234 says:

    Stop Blaming History for Your All-White, All-Male Movie

    As Sage Young wrote in an essay on the ill-served wife character in “Ford v Ferrari” for NBC News, 61 women have driven in the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Where are their high-octane onscreen depictions?

    Steve said:
    Because the best finish by a woman at Le Mans was a 4th place in 1932?

    Radical left to white males: We hate you…and while we’re on the subject, why aren’t you more encouraging to us non-whites and females about our accomplishments?

    And in the comments section for a Newsweek article critical of Ms. Elliott’s “Ford v Ferrari” review, a reader snarkily wondered what she makes of NASA during the John F. Kennedy era. “Our walking on the moon, the space race should all be forgotten because there were no women or people of color,” they wrote.

    “Wrong. Black females put men into outer space,” someone responded.

    Indeed — Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson were mathematicians and engineers who worked at NASA during the height of the space race, yet it wasn’t until the 2016 release of the aptly titled movie dramatization of their lives, “Hidden Figures,” that the women were given their due onscreen.

    Who needs history books when you have Hollywood?

    • Replies: @Nachum
  96. FC says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I think this statement comes from these new consensuses that start from an ambiguous research to a biased article and become the “truth”

    In this case, I think the initial source of disinformation come from this text:

    https://www.publicmedievalist.com/uncovering-african/

  97. anon[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    My dad had a master’s degree in mathematics, and in early 1942, for a few months, was assigned to the war effort as a civilian “computer”, computing ballistics trajectories for the military

    A very critical job that chewed up man hours like crazy. It was so important and time consuming that electro-mechanical analog machines called “computers” were built to speed up the process of getting trajectory manuals created. Later versions of those “computer” machines were installed on battleships such as the Iowa class to finely aim the main battery, with inputs from the hull movement, the local temperature and humidity, etc. The result was deadly downrange.

  98. anon[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    What Amelia Earhart was doing was being done by dozens of others (and she had peers among women pilots who were dubious about her technical skills).

    Amelia Earhart was not the first woman to fly across the Atlantic. She was the first woman passenger to be flown across the Atlantic. This particular “first woman” game has been going on for longer than 50 years.

  99. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “WHITE IS A COLOR”.

    White is the colour out of space. White is an illusion. Now fade out whitey, but leave behind your civilization because we need indoor plumbing.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  100. Anonymous[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    Women are smaller than men and so women pilots were breaking aviation records in the canvas-and-wire era when every pound of weight counted. That’s all. People make too much of this.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  101. Barnard says:
    @Canadian Observer

    My wife watched Downton Abbey, I didn’t see all the episodes but caught enough of them to notice that plot line involving the young aristocrat. I commented to her that the show was obviously going to great lengths to include all these progressive plot points, those you mentioned, the gay footman, the daughter going to Switzerland to have her illegitimate child, but none of the characters are demonstrated to be devout members of the Church of England. During that time period, at least 30-40% would have attended church regularly, but that is mostly ignore this in the show. The only episode I remember seeing with overtly positive Christian references was a Christmas episode where traditional carols were sung. This article quotes the historical advisor saying the producers were concerned it would offend their “atheistic audience.” All of this is intentionally to create a false picture of the past.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/why-downton-abbey-has-no-traces-of-god-and-christianity-150419/

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Hypnotoad666
  102. @Reg Cæsar

    “I cringe every time I see a modern writer misuse thou or ye”

    How about “betwixt” or “whilst”? I could be put in jail for what I do to those words.

    “But not about nonwhite men in crime organizations.”

    Back in 1973 British secret agent James Bond tangled with an all black crime organization that controlled its minions through the use of voodoo. I believe Roger Moore was the only Bond who took baths. During the above Caribbean adventure he even shaved in a bathtub.

  103. @conatus

    “the Hair War.”

    Steve Sailer is the Dick Cheney of the Hair War.

  104. ATBOTL says:

    OT:

    UC Berkeley removes racist John Boalt’s name from law school

    https://www.berkeleyside.com/2020/01/30/uc-berkeley-removes-racist-john-boalts-name-from-law-school

    There are lot of iSteve themes in this one.

  105. Elli says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Here is a claim that 30 % of skeletons buried in a medieval Black Plague grave in London had non-European morphology.

    https://www.medievalists.net/2019/09/black-death-burials-reveal-the-diversity-of-londons-medieval-population/

    While the researchers dismiss the Asian morphologies as most likely false positives, they embrace the African morphologies as correct. They published in the journal Bioarchaeology of Marginalized People.

    They deduced that some of the Europeans had migrated from other parts of Great Britain but there is nothing in the recap about DNA or isotope analysis of the assigned African skeletons.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  106. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    And this whole “Peoples of color” thing. WHITE IS A COLOR.

    You are wrong, on a technicality. White is not a color:

    Why Do We Not List Black and White as Colors in Physics?

    However, we are still people of color. Pink is very much a color.

    Thomas Sowell titled a book after a friend’s quip:

    We are pink nationalists! Let’s start hijacking!

  107. Alfa158 says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It’s also a simple matter of money. There are lots of Africans living in England now and some of them are professional actors, who want work. If historical dramas continued to be truthful they would be shut out of those acting jobs. Therefore if an African wants to play Achilles, you’d better suit him up, and nobody had better remark on the fact that an Achaean helmet engineered to protect a European head and face doesn’t really fit a more prognathic African face.

  108. The reason Hollywood doesn’t cast blacks as historical geniuses like Michael Faraday is simply because blacks are not credible–and audiences know it. The same principle obtains as to why it would be absurd to cast a black as James Bond. Why? Because the essence of Bond was high IQ, not sexiness.

  109. @Anonymous

    Looks like the old Civil Defense logo at first glance.

    Both are concerned with safe spaces.

  110. @Art Deco

    Here’s what you’re looking for.
    Samuel Johnson: “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”

  111. MB says: • Website
    @Canadian Observer

    Yo man, we all know what is on the wall of Plato’s cave big screen is the the unadulterated Truth/Reality.
    So suck it up and deal with it.

    Everything you know is wrong.
    At least be honest and admit it.
    Reality has finally been presented to you and you can’t handle it and a lot of other things.

    Lemme see
    Diversity – check
    Climate change
    Only whites are racist/nazis.
    Epstein killed himself.
    Yeah that ought about do it for now.
    You can be dismissed.
    Take him back to his cell, officer.

  112. iffen says:

    I’ll take anachronisms for $200, Alex.

    I watched 1917 yesterday and it was a very unremarkable film. The only aspect that I thought was superior was what I understand to be cinematography.

    The Sikh, the mulattoes and pure Africans were dispersed within the units in conspicuous roles and scenes, and not as distinct homogenous units from the British Empire.

    I don’t know why people have their panties in a wad, people have forever projected their desires and vision back into their history and mythology.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  113. As a society our future will be one of giving undue attention to those who demand it and can enforce their demands with emotional blackmail or physical intimidation. If we are so weak as to accept constant social subduction by our ad hoc superiors, we deserve to disappear.

  114. Deadite says:
    @PiltdownMan

    My understanding is that Einstein did something similar where he was tasked to look at the heating and cooling of ship gun barrels. So your dad was in excellent company.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  115. Beckow says:
    @Bill Jones

    …monomamarrarian?

    She had two, took out only one – it didn’t take much to scare a few Eskimos. My guess is she also had lower back pain, that would explain the yelling. In any case, a fierce Viking female warrior…

  116. vinteuil says:
    @dearieme

    anyone who uncritically projects current obsessions onto the world of, say, 1917 is just being an ass.

    Yup.

    And there are a lot of asses around.

    And they’ve got the megaphone.

  117. Duke84 says:
    @Medvedev

    No black has ever won a Nobel science prize either.

  118. Johannes says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Yes, this very thing struck me too about 1917. It didn’t kill the film for me, but it felt like an awkward shoehorn of diversity into the film…

  119. I have not read ANY comments yet, so forgive me if I repeat anything. This editorial has done nothing but make this guy want to go ahead and see some of these movies. Nope, it’s not out of spite for the NY Times (this time), but simply because Miss Harris makes the movies sound well worth attending. Yea, I haven’t been since First Man. I’m smuggling in my own gummies again, though…

    However, if anyone still listens to these bat-shit luny people at the NY Times, then I guess it’s back to comic books, rehashes, sequels and prequels, right? I’ll be at the house.

  120. Nachum says:
    @J1234

    I went to the Newsweek site and added a comment to that effect.

  121. @Almost Missouri

    The new movie Gretel and Hansel has a gratuitous black guy who helps the kids. And the new Bond movie has a sassy black double O agent.

    I have negro fatigue.

    • Replies: @Sol
    , @MEH 0910
  122. @Bill Jones

    “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.” – Samuel Johnson

    One of my favorite quotes. It becomes more and more relevant with each passing day.

    • Replies: @sayless
  123. @Barnard

    Maggie Smith stole that entire show lock, stock, and barrel – and not for the progtards. They got owned worse than they did in Mad Men.

    Probably why they’ve finally stopped with the SJW product placements in movies like Hollywood and Ford v. Ferrari.

  124. Anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Actually no. Weight was that critical only in the very earliest days and in areas like Formula One air racing with strict arbitrary rules. By the day of the earliest women pilots, airplanes were much bigger.

    F1 air racing was dominated by a woman, Judy Wagner, but her husband was the brains behind the operation and she was caught cheating with illegal nitrous oxide. She was never thought of highly enough to be offered an Unlimited ride.

  125. J.Ross says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    And even where there are quibbles like the embassy of the Thai king to the king of France, these geniuses were boneheaded enough to specify a significant presense, so, yeah, we are living in Airstrip One. There was no significant black presence in the British Isles at all, even afturr de Weend-rush. In America we had so many blacks that their numbers were an issue in initially calculating state populations for electoral purposes: did that question come up once in England, prior to, say, Thatcher? (Catholics do not count as black for this issue.)

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  126. In visual representation arts & entertainment, if you mix with normative looks, it all turns out to be either hilarious or idiotic.

    You may take some white guy to play a role of some other white guy, lighter or darker, it wouldn’t matter. East- West, North- South: wouldn’t make much difference. Just, you cannot – if you have common sense left & you’re not living in the 50s or the 60s Hollywood – take a white guy to play the role of an east Asian, Hindu Indian or any other race.

    What, on the other hand, you can do is to adapt narratives from one part of the world to another (Shakespeare & Dostoevsky in Japan, say).

    The insurmountable gap is this: there are hugely more male stories than female stories; also, there are incredibly more Western (broadly European) stories than non-Western ones. Among non-Western tales, the big three are Islam, India & China (plus culturally & “racially” close countries). Among Africans, American Indians, Polynesians, .. there is no much stuff, both historically & re cultural significance. Almost everything is parochial.

    Even within a country like the US, just glance on the sheer output of narrative fiction worthy of film adaptation, written from the 1950s to the 2010s. Whites are now ca. 60-65% of the US; their good or great narrative fiction share is way over 95%.

    Also, apart from chick lit, most notable female fiction writers don’t write about specifically female issues.

    Such is life.

  127. Thirdeye says:

    I suppose the current day Formula One superstar Lewis Hamilton would tick the diversity box for a movie, but the problem is that modern Formula One racing is such a tightly controlled, technical strategy driven enterprise that it would be a real challenge to make a dramatically interesting movie about it. There’s no opportunity for the greatness of a Nuvolari, Fangio, Clark, or Brabham.

    • Replies: @captflee
  128. @jimla

    Dr. Johnson had a black slave.

    • Replies: @captflee
  129. J.Ross says:
    @iffen

    A real and free film industry would make E.E. Cummings’ Enormous Room. It does have a black soldier, but raises all the wrong questions, which these movies are supposed to settle. Its black soldier buys the wrong uniform and impersonates a general for a week of partying in Paris with gullible foreigners and their straying wives, and is therefore clearly an unusually bright guy. Its narrator-protagonist is sent to a French concentration camp because his buddy refused to hate Germans in a private letter.
    I notice total vindication regarding Straw Nazism worries, here and in Wonder Woman. They really did just rush a costume change for bog standard Wachtmeister Schulzes from central casting. That’s an important task for the Ministry of Truth, and it should not be forgiven or overlooked, because in real history the aftermath of WWI was characterized by nearly every literate person recognizing not only that the war was a mistake but that they had been taken in by mass media lies. It is very important to the establishment that the sort of mind set which could make Renoir’s Great Illusion become incomprehensible, that the distinct typical German of the two world wars be blurred into a single caricature of ungrateful murderous rage and brainless totalitarian obedience.
    The Holocaust as our mytho-ideological foundational event must become every event, so that everything that ever happened is seen to contain within it a tortured reflection of one of the most unique and aberrant events in history. The Imperial Germans, who gave the Jews a better deal than almost anyone else, must be shown to be as brutal as Nazis if not as anti-Semitic. It is funny otherwise that the French, who have far greater reason, do not generally show WWI Germans as bad as the English do.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @anon
    , @guest
    , @iffen
  130. @guest

    Waugh’s life is extremely well documented, so it’s not impossible to look up the real black American who Chokey was based on in “Decline and Fall.”

    • Replies: @Alden
  131. “Why do the same stories about the same types of people keep getting made?”

    They aren’t the same stories or the same types, but if they were and the matter was to color, it might simply be based on the demographics, that’s what most white people want to see. And movie making is creative, and informational, even on occasion enlightening, but it is also motivated to make money.

    “Because the most talented directors, writers, and actors tend to be white men?”

    No. Because there are some 220 million whites and it is unlikely they will pay to see movies that are largely about others, having established for themselves the upper tiers of attention. That’s not about talent anymore than our elected officials are white and the best and the brightest. Clearly recent history rebuts “the most talented” refrain.

    Hmmmm . . . and after all this time, I thought the catch all, “destiny is demographic” was something of a given. I take it this response grants that Jews, most Jews are in fact white.

  132. What if the members of the race grievance industry retooled their business and began to make the sort of movies with the sort of actors that they always complain are missing?

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  133. J.Ross says:
    @Deadite

    And Isaac Asimov, L. Sprague de Camp, and Robert A. Heinlein were at a Philadelphia Naval aviation experimentation site with an awful cafeteria. Pretty much every recognized genius or very bright egg not playing god in New Mexico was in similar tedious but vital work, and those who could joined the military.
    And this guy:
    https://medium.com/@penguinpress/an-excerpt-from-how-not-to-be-wrong-by-jordan-ellenberg-664e708cfc3d
    The book this is from is stupid, and in places wrong, but the anecdote is solid.

  134. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Its almost as if the writer subconsciously thinks that “Well, the US currently brings in immigrants of color to do the jobs that Americans just won’t do, so obviously this type of thing has always existed in white nations.”

    No, no, no. This author, like almost all of them, knows the truth of the matter. It’s just that no matter what lie like this she makes, nobody well-known will ever call here on it. She knows that.

  135. @Art Deco

    Amelia Earhart had a navigator with her in that part-way around the world trip. Back in those days, navigating was a BIG part of piloting. She didn’t listen to the guy and took a wrong turn upon arrival at the African coastline (from Brazil). That one turned out OK, but that last one … Those proto-air-traffic-controllers out there in the Pacific, men all of them, did the best they could.

  136. @Bill Jones

    Rosie!! Get TF over here!

    No, just let the meatloaf burn, or use your phone!

  137. Muggles says:

    As of this writing (Sat. 2/8) the probable Best Picture Oscar (so the odds tell us) and probably best Actor/Supporting Actor is the expensive fairy tale Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

    Of course that should also be warning. About the horrific Charles Manson “family” murders. Only this time it is they who are violently killed, not the actual victims. See? Not hard to fabricate history, even stuff that happened only a few decades ago.

    Not very “diverse” but Tarantino can get away with it because it includes a) a happy ending (formerly considered pretty trite and old fashioned) b) two of the hottest middle aged male actors in their prime, eye candy for nearly everyone who makes films/greenlights them and c) gushes with gallons of blood which seems to please the box office. Oh, and don’t forget it is a narcissistic project, “all about us!” which is filmdom’s favorite subject.

    Perfect for a year when Deplorables are the Main Enemy. I might even suggest that this is the implicit meta theme here. Manson cultists as “deplorables” who are successfully fought off by just us regular old Hollywood hands, no one special. Just Industry Guys.

    So artificial reality isn’t just about race or gender. It’s a whole new World o’ Woke. There is a reason why politically, there is no diversity in Hollywood. Maybe Tarantino’s next film will be about the 2016 election, but re-made to show how the Russians stole it from Hillary. Bloodbath ending at Trump Tower on election night. Hey, this practically writes itself!

  138. I grew up in Bethpage, NY, where the Lunar Module was built at Grumman. Our town was 99.9% white, as were most of the towns around us. I pretty much never interacted with a black person until I went to college in South Carolina. My friends dad’s put the man on the moon. None identified as a POC woman.

  139. If civilization had been left in female hands, we would still be living in grass huts.

    Camille Paglia

  140. Sol says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Let them build Wakanda in Liberia.

    • Replies: @Ed
  141. @Hibernian

    Aviatrix is so commonly used as the singular form in newspaper articles, etc., that it seems to be an accepted practice. I remember this clearly WRT Amelia Earhart going back to when I was a kid.

    Aviatrix is the correct singular form. Reg was commenting on the incorrect “aviatrixes’ rather than ‘aviatrices’

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  142. @SunBakedSuburb

    The word colour is spelled C-O-L-O-R. As in co-lor or cal-lar. Not co-lore or co-lure.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  143. @Reg Cæsar

    In the crayola box, white is definitely a color. Looking at paint, white is definitely a color.

    • Replies: @Dube
  144. @Elli

    The Black Death occured or started up, ca.1348-51. This is before the Age of Exploration was fully underway. So the likelihood that they go that far back in UK history would be total BS. Immigration as the term is understood in 2020, simply didn’t exist. Families didn’t simply pack up from one continent and journey thousands of miles to a land that they weren’t sure even existed, barely heard of, or, just decided to go live on a whim, or because they were “refugees”.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  145. @Barnard

    Actually, the “gay footman” character started out as an evil, dishonest and manipulative queen. But in the subsequent seasons they naturally had to redeem him.

  146. Hibernian says:

    Jean Baptiste Point du Sable was the founder of what later became Chicago. Maybe not exactly representative of his era.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baptiste_Point_du_Sable

    The greatest number of people of color who were involved in the early history of Chicago were Indians and part Indians (including du Sable’s wife and children.) Prominent among them: Archange Ouilmette, Indian princess and wife of the French settler after whom the affluent suburb of Wilmette was named, and Billy Caldwell/Chief Sauganash, half Indian go between in negotiations between Whites and Indians.

  147. sayless says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    St. Nina of Georgia evangelized Georgia; she was formally ordained as an evangelist in church, at the altar. She preached, but did not baptize or chrismate or consecrate, no sacerdotal functions.

    There were other women saints who preached, Saint Priscilla, St. Thekla. Not a tremendous number, but enough to establish that in principle there’s no objection to women preaching.

    Samuel Johnson didn’t know everything.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  148. @Reg Cæsar

    According to the experts at Crayola, circa 1972, my flesh is flesh-colored. Is that so wrong? No one objected at the time…

    Nope, according to Google it was called “peach”.
    https://shop.asmdss.com/products/offensive-crayons-classic

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  149. @Jack D

    What people don’t realize is that organizations are always desperate for talent. If anyone (black, blue or green) shows any talent then they get used because talent is always in short supply.

    I don’t think this is true. A lot of talent in the world is wasted because companies have other priorities. For example Steve is a talented writer and observer of the world, yet he writes for Unz and Taki.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  150. Ed says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I was so enraged by this as I watched what was otherwise a good movie. A Sikh as you say would have been with an Indian unit. The odds of an Indian being born and raised in the UK then are almost nil.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  151. Ed says:
    @Sol

    Speaking of Wakanda, Liberia

  152. J.Ross says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Yeah, this plus the promotion twist in Eastern Promises. In most cultures talent is punished as a potential threat to the existing order: it is allowed to flourish only when it fits unobtrusively into that order.

  153. @Jefferson Temple

    because they can’t–LOL. Spike Lee is the best they have, and he sucks

  154. Michelle says:
    @guest

    The great actor Peter Stormare explained, in an interview, that he arrived in America at the time wherein Hollywood was no longer allowed to portray “Minorities” as criminals. What ethnic group is it safe for us to portray as criminals? Russians, that’s who! So Stormare lied about being able to fake a Russian accent and rode, and is still riding, the wave of portraying Russian, Eastern and (Rarely) Scandinavian bad guys.

  155. Ed says:
    @Canadian Observer

    It’s thought the black Downton Abbey character was inspired by Leslie Hutchinson a black jazz singer who is thought to have had a long affair with Lady Mountbatten. Evidently the press got wind of it and the story was released. It ruined him and Mountbattens sued the tabloids for libel. Lady Mountbatten would later famously cuckold her husband with Nehru, so she probably slept with the black guy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Hutchinson

  156. Anonymous[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Even if it was permitted, British-resident Indians are unlikely to have joined British regiments due to dietary, hygiene, uniform and equipment issues. It would have been a huge headache.

  157. Ganderson says:
    @Canadian Observer

    Not to mention the black Tommies in 1917

  158. Fox says:
    @Ragno

    I like to bring up the name of Elly Beinhorn (1907 -2007) also. She was record flier, her strength were very long solo flights.

  159. @Mr McKenna

    I’m confused. Does that sign mean I have to be all of these to use this restroom?

  160. nebulafox says:
    @J.Ross

    > The Imperial Germans, who gave the Jews a better deal than almost anyone else, must be shown to be as brutal as Nazis if not as anti-Semitic.

    Imperial Germany did have the occasional anti-Semitic tendencies: DDG the Judenzahlung. That said, I do agree that it cannot be stated enough that this bore no resemblance whatsoever to the genocidal aims of the Third Reich. That, and for every Judenzahlung for the Central Powers, you had a Dreyfus Affair or a Union of the Russian People among the Allies. Anti-Semitism was far from a specifically German thing in late bourgeois age Europe.

    (Interestingly, it was commonly acknowledged that the most anti-Semitic city in Europe that wasn’t controlled by the Tsar was Vienna-it is telling that the only place in the Reich where the Kristallnacht met with genuine popular enthusiasm was Vienna, where so many of the local Nazis were of Hitler’s own psychological type and origins. There were people in Hitler’s inner circle during the early 1930s who thought that his “Balkan” style mania toward Jews was something he picked up in the Viennese slums as a failed, frustrated young man, and God knows why he couldn’t just let it go already now that he’d completely turned his life around and had everything.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Fox
  161. @J.Ross

    Exactly. There you go.

    Believe it or not, England during late middle ages/Renaissance could actually count, and they had something called a Royal Census to determine their nation’s populations. Again, if the UK’s total percentage of non-whites as late as 1950 hovered around 1%, the idea that it was even at that level in 1500-1600 is utterly ridiculous. I mean, do we find in the nineteenth century London MP elections that the East End had to send their best pols over to SoHo and Limehouse to court all the coloreds so that they’d tick the right boxes and vote once more for the Liberal Democrats instead of for those nasty, hated Torries? Seriously?

    The question still remains, brought on in no small part to Steve’s useful noticing of History and whites: Why exactly do non-whites have such a problem that historically there were solid white spaces, with no blacks, period? Why should they freak out at the very notion when it simply wasn’t a thing to do so before say, the rise of Black Studies and books such as Black Athena? Also, doesn’t the very idea that historical studies are subjective based make them less relevant than say, science or mathematics? Of course, then perhaps one will need to make the case for black mathematics and black science. Similar to the Nazi’s attempt to define “Jewish” science.

    Must admit here and now that this willingness for one to go to the mat, as well as go to bat for one’s tribe (or one’s race) at all costs in every single facet of life, so that it is publicly acknowledged in the law, in schools, in the government, pop culture, etc. is fascinating. And, why is it that other races are not afforded the same courtesy to do the same for their tribes and races?

    Nietzsche must be rolling in his grave to hear the idea that those who haven’t made significant contributions to world civilization, (characterized as the weak) are now running the show and demand to be included in the official narrative of the strong, just because they’re woke enough to say and demand that it be so.

    • Replies: @Sako
  162. nebulafox says:
    @dearieme

    There were *tons* of colonial soldiers in both the British and French armies during WWI. Sikhs (not a religion for wimps) in particular enhanced heir martial reputation among the British for their service during the Great War.

    Other major belligerent powers also used subject troops who proved to be quite loyal, from Lettow-Vorbeck’s saga down in Africa to the Bosniak legion of the Habsburgs. Many Muslim soldiers of Turkic or Central Asian extraction also served the Tsars until the bitter end, despite the outbreak of the Basmachi insurgency in 1916. All the more remarkable considering they were taking on the Ottomans.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  163. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    >What people don’t realize is that organizations are always desperate for talent.

    Talent that they don’t have to train in any way and will meet the HR-crafted, nonsensical expectations to a T (5 years experience in a technology that has existed for 3), can pay as low wages as possible, and expect 100% loyalty for 0% security in return.

    And then they whine they can’t find anybody.

    The reality is if you are an average company, you will get average talent. Employers, for some reason, seem to think they are exempt from the laws of life and expect the government to permanently subsidize their fantasies.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  164. Rob Lee says:

    “an erroneous (and perhaps unconscious) belief that white men have done the most and lived the most interesting lives of us all.”

    Indeed. As Steve intimates, were it not for the labors of white men, this pathetic creature would be squatting in the mud somewhere, shaping food with her hands and muttering some incomprehensible drivel, instead of sitting in an air-conditioned office, wearing comfortable clothes and typing this crap – in English. White men gave her all of this, and the freedom to criticize them for it in turn.

    The absence of self-awareness of these people is simply astounding. In any sane world, the only thing coming out of this person’s mouth – and thousands like her – would be effing gratitude.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  165. @HammerJack

    No one objected at the time…

    Umm, people did object at the time. That’s why it was changed. Also, living in New Jersey, I see plenty of Italian and Greek people who are not flesh colored, even thought they are ostensibly white.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  166. Lagertha says:

    What, What???????? my dog died and Bjorn died on ‘Vikings. ‘

    People will always kill each other – people need to fight for survival like, wolves did 15,000,000 mil years ago, Is it bad that I want Dogs to Win? People did ‘friend’ dogs/wolves – without this pact, humans would not have survived.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  167. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    That’s an important task for the Ministry of Truth, and it should not be forgiven or overlooked, because in real history the aftermath of WWI was characterized by nearly every literate person recognizing not only that the war was a mistake but that they had been taken in by mass media lies. It is very important to the establishment that the sort of mind set which could make Renoir’s Great Illusion become incomprehensible, that the distinct typical German of the two world wars be blurred into a single caricature of ungrateful murderous rage and brainless totalitarian obedience

    Mashing and blurring WW I and WW II together serves another purpose. It effectively erases the Weimar years.

    Forget about the hyperinflation that wiped out average people’s life savings.

    Which put average people in poverty sometimes overnight.

    Likewise the mass unemployment.

    Which fostered large scale prostitution

    Not just in Berlin but in all German cities

    As well as the civil unrest that included street fights between political militias and attempted coups d’etat

    There are people who want all of this history to be erased. One must ask why they want that.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  168. @Jack D

    What people don’t realize is that organizations are always desperate for talent. If anyone (black, blue or green) shows any talent then they get used because talent is always in short supply.

    Jack, that is ridiculous.

  169. Diversity-grifters, rent seekers , and parasites. What is important is not historical accuracy or art, but “gimme a job. And money”.

  170. @Hypnotoad666

    China is quarantining the corona virus, and American leftist culture is quarantining white achievement which they view as disgusting.

  171. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    I do agree that it cannot be stated enough that this bore no resemblance whatsoever to the genocidal aims of the Third Reich.

    This doesn’t even begin to touch it. The Judenzählung was a stupid idea pushed by ill willed people but all it was was a census which was supposedly going to cast the Jews in a bad light by “proving” that a disproportionate # of them were not serving on the front lines during WWI. In the end, nothing came of it. This is in a whole ‘nuther league than the Holocaust. This is like comparing what the woman on the escalator did to Genius T. Coates’s kid to kidnapping 10 million Africans into slavery.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  172. @nebulafox

    Talent that they don’t have to train in any way and will meet the HR-crafted, nonsensical expectations to a T (5 years experience in a technology that has existed for 3), can pay as low wages as possible, and expect 100% loyalty for 0% security in return.

    And then they whine they can’t find anybody.

    Yup. Anyone that disagrees with this is welcome to go retrieve a STEM job specification so the STEM-associated folks here can breakdown exactly how delusional some of these postings are.

    Employers, for some reason, seem to think they are exempt from the laws of life and expect the government to permanently subsidize their fantasies.

    The defense industry in particular is addicted to the Pentagon gravy train. It’s so bad that competitive business opportunities exist if your firm decides to limit its government gouging markup to 250%, instead of 300% like the greedy guys in the next city over.

    Employers really, really hate it when the employee exercises their at-will rights. You can see their mental gears grind to a halt because they can’t process the situation at hand.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  173. Certainly filmmakers should have the artistic freedom to make a movie about white men racing cars or white men in crime organizations.

    They should, but making movies is mostly a commercial enterprise and you have to consider who the audience for movies will be and how to get the widest distribution.

    Movies are rather like fast food restaurants in the sense that if your take-out restaurant chain serves hot food items that have little appeal for black customers or Hispanics, you are likely to reduce the size of the potential market for fast food sales in any particular location, the result being that most fast food is bland to the extreme, being designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

    Black people watch a lot of TV and movies, so if your product is negatively perceived in that market segment, it can never be a commercial plus.

    This is why Simon Cowell hires people like Gabrielle Union as judges on his TV talent shows–just marketing to that audience segment. The show has open auditions for the contestants, but I doubt they used the same process to select the judges from qualified entertainers to screen for their superior ability to evaluate acts, make interesting comments, and project the image desired by the show producers.

  174. “When it comes to filmmakers guarding themselves against critiques…”

    This is such an institutionalized barbarism that, after 40-or-so years, nobody notices it anymore. The AA hire (named after the child wife of the pedophile Muhammad, who raped her at the age of nine, and who practiced slavery) is talking about criticism.

  175. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    I ain’t arguing.

    If anything, Germany’s Jews disproportionately served at the front lines relative to other nations. Several of the dudes who would win Nobel Prizes in physics or chemistry in the future and would be kicked out by the Nazis were WWI vets. Karl Schwarzchild died from an illness he contracted in Russia shortly after solving the first GR equation, and he was around 40 when he volunteered.

    • Replies: @Fox
  176. @Cloudswrest

    That’s an observation worth stealing.

    • Replies: @Cloudswrest
  177. Lagertha says:
    @Lagertha

    I don’t like people, Anymore….people are worthless because they are all cruel.

  178. Alden says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Chokey was based on Hutch Hutchison a black Caribbean musician who worked in Europe. He had a notorious sex affair with Edwina Countess Mountbatten Her husband was gay always had things going with other men.

  179. Anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:
    @sayless

    Based on Pauline injunctions, most conservative churches do not have female pastors or elders. I’ll led Don VB quote chapter and verse.

    There was a TV series awhile back that starred Ellen Greene ((yes, everyone knows)) as a reformed wayward woman turned gospel singer that got into that as I recall.

    • Replies: @sayless
  180. nebulafox says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    >Yup. Anyone that disagrees with this is welcome to go retrieve a STEM job specification so the STEM-associated folks here can breakdown exactly how delusional some of these postings are.

    Present! It’s all a lie, and younger Americans know it these days. The only ones who go into STEM are those who like it too much to care, or have parents that force you to. (Or both: such as me.) Mind, I *do* think the US would be better off with more scientists and engineers, and less lawyers and MBAs. But you need to actually provide the jobs for your graduates.

    What’s going on now is a complete perversion of normal market mechanisms, in effect subjecting one side of the equation (the employees) to intensified versions of them while exempting the other (the employers). In a normal market, if there’s a contraction in the labor supply, you’ve got to shell out higher wages if you are hiring. That’s life, just as much as when the market is flooded, they get to be choosey. But we don’t do that. We instead give them a permanent subsidy through outsourcing and open immigration, in effect creating an artificially flooded market.

    When you combine this with the rising costs of just about everything in a rentier economy needed for family formation or basic survival (it does not help that things like health care are tied to your employer, neo-feudal style), it is hardly a wonder that the largely 20/30-something New Right has little time for the free-market fetishism and CEO worshipping of the GOP.

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @guest
  181. guest says:
    @J.Ross

    That interwar period is a bit remembered. I mean, they make fun of lies about cutting off the hands of Belgian children, and we get to hear about how the munitions industries were behind it all, and so forth. However, any comprehensive review runs a risk of being labelled dirty, rotten “revisionism.”

    Historical revisionism has a bad name these days. For good reason from the perspective of the ruling intellectual class. Not so bad as conspiracy theory, but bad enough.

    They lack a word for whatever it is they do, by the way. Mainstream I guess it was called at one poimt. Sometimes we call them Court Historians. They’re the ones who saw the backlash against saber-rattling mass media and instead of “won’t get fooled again” took notes to figure out how to fool people better next time. Your Walter Lippmans and Eddie Bernayses.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  182. guest says:
    @nebulafox

    That CEO worshipping never really took off. It was more excuse-making, and even then the CEOs were kinda abstract. Unless they happened to be historical figures, kept at arm’s length.

    Exceptions were praised, but by all kinds not just free marketeers. Steve Jobs, etc.

    Even in the novels of Ayn Rand, like 90% of the tycoon characters are despicable.

  183. @Mr McKenna

    “Inclusive Restroom”, aka: “Fukkit, we are only paying for one toilet.”

  184. “scholarly research”

    It doesn’t exist. However, liars like this Aisha Harris person can assert that, because for a generation or more, overpriced private universities (OPUs) have hired black supremacists to endowed chairs not in spite of their being frauds, but because of it, and newspapers and publishing houses have paid them (and very well, at that) to be professional liars.

    Since at least 1997, Annette Gordon-Reed has promoted the Sally Hemings Hoax. Long after she was exposed, she continued to get publishing contracts for more fake books repeating the same lies, a fraudulent Pulitzer Prize, and then Harvard gave her a professorship in its law school.

    “Annette Gordon-Reed is the Charles Warren Professor of American Legal History at Harvard Law School and a Professor of History in the Faculty of Arts and Sciences at Harvard University, and formerly the Carol K. Pforzheimer Professor at the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study (2010-2016) and the Harold Vyvyan Harmsworth Visiting Professor of American History at Queen’s College, University of Oxford (2014-2015). She won the Pulitzer Prize in History in 2009 for The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family (W.W. Norton, 2009), a subject she had previously written about in Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy (University Press of Virginia, 1997)….”
    https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/10329/Gordon-Reed

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2009/04/giving-thomas-jefferson-business-sally.html

    Then again, Harvard had much earlier hired “critical race theory” hoaxer Derrick Bell and Black Panther Charles Ogletree (Henry “Skip” Gates Jr. Hoax) to tenured professorships at HLS.

    Carol Anderson, a chaired “history” professor at OPU Emory, wrote a book in 2016, White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, in which she lied in asserting not only that Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown were “murdered,” but that the wealth of antebellum America was 80% produced by cotton.

    Any lie these racist scoundrels make up, while sitting on the potty and then publishing, becomes ipso facto, “scholarly research.”

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Aldon
  185. AOC (who apparently holds a bachelor’s degree in economics from Boston University) says we should all listen to her guiding light, the famous British economist Milton Keynes, after whom a New Town in England was named.

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y on Instagram:

    “I was just reading today about how in 1930, famed economist Milton Keynes predicted that by 2030 GDP and technology would have advanced so much that it would allow everyday people to work as little as FIFTEEN HOURS a week and provide for their families”

    Confronted with her idiocy, Rep AOC responded “UGGGH TYPO”

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Hibernian
  186. @ScarletNumber

    living in New Jersey, I see plenty of Italian and Greek people who are not flesh colored

    I’m gonna just let you figure this one out. To say any more would surely be unkind.

  187. @guest

    They lack a word for whatever it is they do, by the way.

    This is no accident. Language governs thought, so if the words are removed from parlance you won’t be so tempted to think Wrong Thoughts.

  188. iffen says:
    @J.Ross

    It is funny otherwise that the French, who have far greater reason, do not generally show WWI Germans as bad as the English do.

    The portrayal of the German soldiers as particularly evil and odious was noticeable. They had the German pilot of a crashed and burning plane stab a British soldier who had helped pull him from the burning wreckage. I doubt that even a low-down sneaky Jap kamikaze would have behaved like that.

    I view the anachronistic sprinkling of brown and black faces in a historical scene as a Green Grocer Sign. Some signs are small and some are large, but if you are going to sell groceries you have to have a sign. The flip side of that is that I like to be able to go to a grocery store and buy groceries.

    so that everything that ever happened is seen to contain within it a tortured reflection of one of the most unique and aberrant events in history.

    Yes, the unrelenting me, me, me of some can be grating; see slavery in America.

    “He who controls the present, controls the past…”

    RIP George Orwell

    • Replies: @guest
  189. MEH 0910 says:
    @El Dato

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  190. MEH 0910 says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Colour_Out_of_Space

    The Colour Out of Space” is a science fiction/horror short story by American author H. P. Lovecraft, written in March 1927. In the tale, an unnamed narrator pieces together the story of an area known by the locals as the “blasted heath” in the wild hills west of the fictional town of Arkham, Massachusetts. The narrator discovers that many years ago a meteorite crashed there, poisoning every living being nearby; vegetation grows large but foul tasting, animals are driven mad and deformed into grotesque shapes, and the people go insane or die one by one.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  191. MEH 0910 says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Bananas – J. Edgar Hoover

  192. dearieme says:
    @nebulafox

    Nah, regiments of Sikhs (and Hindus and Moslems) would have been in the Indian Army not the British Army – different organisation. But there would have been West Indies regiment/s in the British Army and presumably African regiments too. The interesting topic is officers – how many coloured officers commanded white troops in the British Army in WW1? There was a handful from the West Indies. Whether there were others I don’t know. I dare say that anyone who looked even marginally white might have been welcomed.

    There would have been Maoris in the Anzacs I’d think – whether any were officers I have no idea. But the Maori population was far smaller in 1917 than it is now.

    WKPD reports: “After the First World War the British started the process of Indianisation, by which Indians were promoted into higher officer ranks. Indian cadets were sent to study in Great Britain at the Royal Military College, Sandhurst, and were given full commissions as King’s Commissioned Indian Officers. The KCIOs were equivalent in every way to British commissioned officers and had full authority over British troops [meaning white troops in the Indian Army] .”

    Moreover: “Some KCIOs were attached to British Army units for a part of their careers.” So obviously they would command white troops.

    It follows that any military dramas set between the two World Wars might reasonably show Indian officers in both the Indian and British Armies.

  193. I once worked on a job in Milton Keynes in the early 70’s. I don’t remember the exact year, but it was when Abba were at the peak of their success and I associate the town irrevocably with their hit Take A Chance On Me.

    Milton Keynes was built from scratch as a kind of American style town on a more-or-less greenfield site incorporating a few hamlets and is the home of Britain’s Open University. The area has been occupied since the Bronze Age and incorporates Bletchley Park which was famous as the World War II code breaking center.

    The name of the village of Milton Keynes goes back to the middle ages and has nothing to do with the economist or with the poet John Milton, author of Paradise Lost, although if Milton Keynes ever was an earthly suburban paradise, that is no longer the case.

    I am sure the city will be most grateful to AOC for giving it front page publicity and that there will be trivia questions about the mention for years to come.

    • Replies: @captflee
  194. Sally Hemmings, far from mere hoaxing. And among white researchers still a possibility. If it were anyone not affiliated with the founding, there would be little controversy or discussion. But in reality, given the record of these types of relationships even in colonial times, hardly a leap of faith. Anyone familiar with President Jeffersion knows full well his reputation isn’ hinged on his relational life but his conduct as a founder and there’s plenty to be disappoined about, without discounting his contribution

    https://www.biography.com/historical-figure/sally-hemings

    https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/thomas-jefferson-and-sally-hemings-a-brief-account/

  195. sayless says:
    @Anonymous

    There were deaconesses serving in at least the Armenian church as late as the late nineteenth century but that seems to have faded out. I’ve seen photographs of them in diaconal vestments.

  196. Fox says:
    @nebulafox

    What’s Judenzahlung? Zahlung = payment. Were the Jews paid something? Or were they required to pay something?
    As to other parts of your statement, Jews had it very good in Germany, and they were appreciating this. Only after a promise could be extracted from the British regarding the occupation of Palestine did the American Jews through their channels such as press, finance, political backdoor dealings, switch their side from pro-German to anti-German in 1916, preparing the American public for war against Germany, followed a year after by the Balfour Declaration.
    It’s that easy to switch sides.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  197. “… Instead, the root of the criticisms of “The Irishman,” “1917” and the others like them for being so white and male seems to be a sense of weariness and boredom.”

    My only critique would be to 1917, given that hundreds of thousands of nonwhites were the first to die in those early battles, including along maginot line. We don’t know much about that history because it simply is not something that is part of the traditional record.

    What many of you call “anti-white” is really just additional history that we are confronted with. And that dissonance of making room for additional narrative can be a pain. I t certainly is for me, because it suggests new understanding of events. No blacks were probably not high number among whites in Europe. But many people are surprised, angry, disappointed that its even a possibility – because it simply is not part of our lore. Like discovering that there were women pilots in the US in 1922. It suggests some reconsideration about just how downtrodden the opposite sex was in US life. Certainly the lives of upper middle class and above lives.

    ——————————————-

    Laugh. I also agree that there’s only so much whites can tolerate of before they get tired of having to adjust to new information. One needs to actually digest and adapt before moving on . . . I am not sure how many blacks get that.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Ozymandias
  198. @MEH 0910

    Get woke, go broke!

    More seriously, you’d think the savvy, story-telling creatives in Hollyweird would have realized that, on film, the Harley Quinn character is best in support, not as a lead shouldering the entire film.

    I’m also amused Hollyweird managed to find a dumpier looking Asian than Kelly Tran or Akwafina and managed to cast the disturbingly man-faced Jurnee Smollett in a femme fatale role.

  199. Fox says:
    @nebulafox

    The laws of 1933 and after to diminish Jewish influence Germany exempted Jews serving in the military in the First War. So what was the point you were trying to make? Hitler’s friend, long-term comrade and chauffeur Emil Maurice was a Jew.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  200. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    People lived and died within 25 miles of where they were born until quite recently.

  201. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    This is lie. There were no people of color in England during the Tudor Monarchy.

    I doubt there where zero Negroes in Tudor England. But still way, WAY less than 1/2 of one percent of the population, so your assertion is fundamentally correct.

  202. @slumber_j

    I guess the paper has now opened a new front in its quest, letting us all in on what the filmmakers did there with that movie title. Amazing.

    They probably assume the average New York Times reader is a fat, alcoholic 62-year-old catlady who thinks Amy Klobuchar is amazing. And they’re probably correct (both in whom their audience is, and in their need to explain to that audience even the most simple, rudimentary, and unfunny “jokes”).

  203. @HammerJack

    Confronted with her idiocy, Rep AOC responded “UGGGH TYPO”

    Oh well…

  204. Dube says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    …White is not a color….

    That’s what they told me when i asked for my money back. I bought a bucket of white paint and it was empty.

  205. @Chris Handsome

    “You know how fucking patronizing that is to people in the South or in the middle of the country? First, LSU has an unusually high graduation rate, but that’s not the point. It’s the goddamn smugness. This is from a guy who lives in New York and serves on the Times editorial board and there’s not a single person he knows that doesn’t pat him on the back for that kind of tweet. He’s so fucking smart.”

    Even James Carville is being pushed into Deplorable status….

    • Replies: @Chris Handsome
  206. anon[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    My only critique would be to 1917, given that hundreds of thousands of nonwhites were the first to die in those early battles, including along maginot line. We don’t know much about that history because it simply is not something that is part of the traditional record.

    Lol. It’s true we do not know much about fake history.Allow me to once again educate you:

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Maginot_Line

  207. captflee says:
    @Thirdeye

    As an F1 fan of five decades I fear that you are all too right.

    Say what you will regarding Mr.Hamilton, like MS before him he has certainly managed to place his posterior in some dominant machinery, which seems to account for rather a lot. Of driving talent he obviously has tons; a podium in one’s first F1 race and missing the World Championship by a single point at the end of one’s maiden season are eye-opening achievements. OTOH, in the modern era, most mistakes that in the 60s would have resulted in a funeral have in the last couple of decades been rendered not nearly so dangerous, so comparisons between eras are at best problematic.

    With the increasing professionalization of the sport there have, alas, come other less interesting aspects, such as the PR flacks babysitting the drivers, lest they be tempted to utter a syllable not pre-approved by corporate HQ. 2008 was as much a nail biter as 1976, but I’d be surprised to see anyone make a movie about that; there’s just not the interpersonal drama of Hunt vs.Lauda, not to mention Hunt’s purported bedding of three and thirty BOAC stews in the days running up to the race…not sure that would play well in the MeToo era.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  208. captflee says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Perhaps ol’ Sam was closer to being a man for our times than previously advertised. Motes and beams… Ah,well! Perhaps we are all hypocrites.

    “How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?”

  209. J.Ross says:
    @anon

    Excellent point, huge miss on my part. I once encountered a homosexual who had never stopped to notice that the supposed “tolerance” of the Weimar era just happened to coincide with abrupt and extreme poverty. He was under the impression that it was some kind of civilizational fluke, which is exactly how it is taught. It didn’t come up but he probably also thinks that “we the people” voted for “marriage equality.”
    But it’s not like we’re living in —
    https://postimg.cc/Cn7m7mbs
    And then, one day, for no reason at all, people voted for Hitler.

  210. CCZ says:

    No school to prison pipeline when “Cody Jarrett” was incarcerated? Is the the absence of blacks in 1930s-40s prison movies racist?

  211. Ninety-second Oscars awards tonight. Sixty seconds would be enough for me.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  212. @Ed

    ” The odds of an Indian being born and raised in the UK then are almost nil.”

    These two, both wealthy Parsis and both MPs before 1900, probably had some kids. And there may have been some born to Lascar seamen in British ports like London and Liverpool – “Lascar” covered anything from Bombay to Borneo.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dadabhai_Naoroji
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mancherjee_Bhownaggree

    • Replies: @captflee
  213. J.Ross says:
    @MEH 0910

    One of his best: the Atlanta Radio Theater group has a good adaptation but too dark for kids. Recently HPL, who enjoyed some late popularity among wierd nonconformist kids and then by conformist plebbiters, was targeted for unpersonning because of a fixed idea that he was primarily a racist (as opposed to being primarily an author). So the idea was all the nonconformist true Lovecraft fans were going to bow to artificial peer pressure. Without retreading all the probably familiar biographical complications of the HPL The Racist thesis, anyone familiar with the stories will know that he almost always reserved a place for his own people as the bad guys. His childhood was characterized by a family coming down in the world and succumbing to madness, and these two themes regularly appear.*
    So it is in Colour, where the whole action of the story concerns a degenerating rural family. It is unusual in Lovecraft in that all supernatural content can be removed leaving two alternatives. In the story as written a family is parasitized by a truly alien entity. The effects of this parasitism overlap with a kind of nightmare extreme of isolation, poverty, weakness, decay, cancer, and reduction. The entity in an adaptation could be called a meteorite and the effects could be “explained” in-story as especially bad radiation. And again the meteor could be removed and bucolic isolation itself could be the “bad guy.” In all these events the younger HPL had a thorough horror of — his pure lower class white WASP neighbors.
    There is one weak point which should probably be removed in any adaptation, a now-comical Keystone Kops debacle. But the rest of the story argues for pardoning this.

    *REH, who answered HPL’s advocacy for civilization with a counter-argument for barbarism, had grown up in Texas boomtowns where material development guaranteed moral destruction. Both were thoughtful and widely read men, but the over-arching themes of each are clearly reactions to childhood experience.

  214. @EliteCommInc.

    “My only critique would be to 1917, given that hundreds of thousands of nonwhites were the first to die in those early battles, including along maginot line.”

    Hundreds of thousands of nonwhites died on the Maginot Line in 1917? The Maginot Line wasn’t even built until the thirties.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  215. J.Ross says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Is the Oscar race fake-controversy really to disguise the fact that not even film enthusiasts care about the Oscars any more?

  216. Svevlad says:

    If I ever run for some office, I’d add into my campaign that I would not only allow these types to be beaten, I’d make it mandatory

    Society advanced by 1000 years I bet would be the effect

  217. captflee says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    The genetic material spread round the globe by seamen of various ilks presents an interesting study. Here in my little port town one can even today encounter their offspring, including a noted local businessman, referred to here occasionally as “the world’s tallest Pilipino”(and this town is proud of its tall half-Filipino sons, the most prominent of whom is in the College Football HOF).

  218. @Steve Sailer

    Evelyn Waugh’s first novel, 1928’s “Decline and Fall,” features a black American jazz singer, Chokey, who is sleeping with Lady Metroland.

    We Calvinists watched the BBC adaptation of ‘Decline and Fall’ recently. It’s very amusing. We were shocked when Chokey made his appearance: he’s lampooned just as vehemently as any of the other characters; in fact, Dr Fagan, played by David Suchet (aka Hercule Poirot), openly mocks the characteristically-black grammar in Chokey’s spoken English.

    In general, the BBC is becoming extremely woke, but in this case they seemed to have been more faithful to the spirit of the source material.

    The depiction of Otto, Mrs Beste-Chetwynde’s German-architect fiance, is also merciless and very funny.

  219. guest says:
    @iffen

    We don’t have any reason to believe the German pilot stabbed his rescuers out of pure malevolence. Unless he says something in German I didn’t understand, like “Die, English scum! I stab at thou because I thirst for blood much like the leech!”

    The pilot might have simply been out of his mind. Regular people are known to lash out at their rescuers.

    More anti-Germanic was the purported booby trap of a mine-works that the movie implied had been rigged to trick British soldiers into blowing themselves up. Because that played upon stereotypes of German engineering know-how, efficiency, and cruelty (people don’t appreciate being buried alive).

  220. When Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay) saw Africa he actually said:

    “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat.”

    If African-Americans today were honest, they’d say the same thing. The fact that they’re still here is a dead give-away.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  221. Hibernian says:
    @kaganovitch

    Sorry, I mentally inserted an “of” after “plural” and ignored the “s” at the end of “aviatrices.”

  222. @Reactionary Utopian

    And don’t forget that March is Women’s History Month!

  223. Hibernian says:
    @HammerJack

    This “typo” business started about 10-25 years ago. Every error is a “typo.” No, a typo is when you type a “q” in place of a “w” because they’re next to each other on the keyboard.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  224. Hibernian says:
    @Ozymandias

    There were WW1 forts in the same general area.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  225. Jack D says:
    @Fox

    Actually it was zählung and it means counting or in this case a census. It was an anti-Semitically motivated census during WWI which was supposed to show that Jews were under-represented in front line combat roles.

  226. @Hibernian

    “There were WW1 forts in the same general area.”

    True. There are medieval castles in the same general area. But they’re not the Maginot Line, because the Maginot Line was built in the 1930s.

  227. Jack D says:
    @Fox

    No he wasn’t. One of his 8 great-grandparents was Jewish. This did not make him Jewish even under Nazi laws but it was too much Jewish blood for membership in the SS which required racial purity back to 1750, so Himmler tried to kick him out. However, Hitler liked him and had him declared to be an Honorary Aryan.

  228. @Servant of Gla'aki

    Or political genius James Carville is putting on his best down-home Louisiana man performance while coolly, rationally calculating how to best recapture those critical Deplorables in Wisconsin and Michigan. Not many LSU fans north of the Bayou though.

  229. @Beckow

    The Eternal Champion, The White Wolf, Elric of Melniboné, also once had doings with the Skrælings…it did not end well for anyone involved…but then, it would not, would it, since he was so insufferably…white….

  230. @RebelWriter

    Right. Boudica and Elizabeth I are not evidence that great leaders have been overwhelmingly female, or even as often female as male.

    • Replies: @Aldon
  231. Aldon says:
    @The Alarmist

    There’s been push to make North Africa just Black Men Land. Been that way since Egypt was forced into a “Black Civilization.”

    We know from genetics that North Africa populations are far more similar to Europeans than say, Swahili speakers.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  232. Aldon says:
    @Autochthon

    Boudica led a mass chimpout that got crushed.

    Elizabeth refused to carry on her lineage.

    Neither were remotely good cases for women ruling.

  233. @Aldon

    Then there’s that whole out of Africa thing, where anything that suggests we might not all have originated in Africa is brutally repressed.

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  234. @captflee

    Evidently Carroll Shelby was quite the horn dog but they left that out of Ford Vs. Ferrari.

  235. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    If Ms Harris desires movies with black characters, how about a film on the 70’s Zebra Murders? Or if you want something more recent, am interesting film (or TV miniseries) could be made on the Christian-Newsom torture-murders.

    About a dozen years ago there was an attempt to make a film on the Zebra murders. The hook was to have black detectives (Jamie Foxx was to star) the heroes, solving the case. Which was a lie. Two black detectives worked on it (all SFPD detectives were pulled in), but had nothing to do with solving it.

    As it turned out, it wasn’t green-lighted.

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  236. Dissident says:
    @Almost Missouri

    It’s like the recent Cheddar Man controversy where woke archaeologists want to make stone age Britons black.

    Now that’s just cheesy.

  237. @Mr McKenna

    eww…

    I’ll just exclude myself…

    Anyway, I think we have all heard ads alluding the wonderfullness of some great some product, service or event because it is exclusive: exclusive offer, exclusive event, exclusive opportunity.

    It’s like people already know that exclusive is good, and inclusive is bad.

  238. Aldon says:
    @David In TN

    They wouldn’t greenlight it since the MSM and children’s stories meme the notion that seriak killing is a White Male habit despite actual crime stats. Just compare the MSM’s focus on someone like Ted Bundy and the use of cartoon mass killers like Batman’s The Joker with how little spotlight men like those Negro Muslim snipers get.

  239. Aldon says:
    @The Alarmist

    It’s called African Multiregionalism now.

  240. This Shiksa of Color NYT columnist knows exactly what is expected of her.

    Loudly bitching about all those (((“Whites”))) running Hollywood is always a good career move.

  241. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Offering them a reasonably attractive or at least plausible out-reparations with separation-would do wonders in making it clear to those who stay that they are dependent on our goodwill. The USA is Whitey’s house. We are not making you stay. If you do, these are the house rules. We will enfiorce them. Yes, you are free to complain. But do so after you get on the jet and you hear the thump-thump-thump of the gear retracting. Just understand your feet will never tread on American soil again.

  242. Sako says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    The question still remains, brought on in no small part to Steve’s useful noticing of History and whites: Why exactly do non-whites have such a problem that historically there were solid white spaces, with no blacks, period?

    Because it was inside “white spaces” that most great scientific breakthroughs were attained, where the Scientific Revolution emerged, where almost all the greatest philosophy, poetry, and fiction was written, the best paintings were painted and best music composed.

    This is true, by the way, even if we’re talking about a non-white high achiever or genius. For instance, this is the first paragraph of the Wikipedia entry for Chandrasekhar:

    “Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar FRS[1] (19 October 1910 – 21 August 1995)[3] was an American astrophysicist of Indian origin who spent his professional life in the United States.[4] He was awarded the 1983 Nobel Prize for Physics with William A. Fowler for “…theoretical studies of the physical processes of importance to the structure and evolution of the stars”. His mathematical treatment of stellar evolution yielded many of the current theoretical models of the later evolutionary stages of massive stars and black holes.[5][6] The Chandrasekhar limit is named after him.”

    He lived and worked his whole life in the United States. His mind was shaped by white Western ways of thinking and perceiving. In their heart of hearts, even the most recalcitrant wokesters and anti-white agitators know or sense the uniqueness of western civilization and what it’s given to the world. Art and science without the contributions of whites would scarcely exist. So resentful, envious ideologues want to claim a vastly larger share of that greatness for non-whites than is warranted.

  243. Aldon says:

    All you need to do to counter those yapping about how some Berber or whatever being in France means King Richard can look like Kunta Kinte or that Victorian London can have the same demographics as Detroit is just ask when a White man will be cast as Kang Panther, Frederick Douglass or Shaka Zulu. And then ask when a movie set in Iron Age China will have tons of Whites walking around. It’s a cutting retort, but these degenerates don’t give a damn about Steven Crowder whoever calling them hypocrites. This is all about humiliation and dominance.

    Just look at how they acted over that Exodus movie. Read between the lines and you’ll see that they seek to drive Whitey from film and other arts.

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