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From the New York Times news section:

Minnesota Officer Who Shot Daunte Wright Meant to Fire Taser, Chief Says

Officials from Brooklyn Center said that the fatal shooting was an “accidental discharge,” and released body-camera video of the encounter.

By Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs and Julie Bosman
April 12, 2021

BROOKLYN CENTER, Minn. — The police officer who killed a man in a Minneapolis suburb on Sunday did so accidentally, officials said Monday, releasing a graphic body-camera video that appeared to depict the officer shouting, “Taser!” before firing her gun.

“It is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their Taser, but instead shot Mr. Wright with a single bullet,” Chief Tim Gannon of the Brooklyn Center Police Department said of the shooting on Sunday of Daunte Wright, 20, during a traffic stop. “This appears to me, from what I viewed, and the officer’s reaction and distress immediately after, that this was an accidental discharge that resulted in a tragic death of Mr. Wright.”

The officer, who was not publicly identified, has been placed on administrative leave, officials said. Chief Gannon said that Mr. Wright had been initially pulled over because of an expired registration on the vehicle he was driving. The video showed a brief struggle between Mr. Wright and police officers before one of the officers fired her gun.

After the officer fired, she is heard on the video saying, “Holy shit. I just shot him.”

In the hours after the shooting on Sunday afternoon, protests, violence and looting broke out in Brooklyn Center, a suburb of 30,000 people north of Minneapolis. The shooting comes amid a national reckoning over police misconduct and the killings of Black people by the police; Mr. Wright was Black. City officials did not identify the race of the police officer.

At no point does the article state that the inept shooter was a “woman” or was “female.” But if you read carefully, you might notice the pronouns “her” and “she.” But Shattering The Stereotype that black men are always gunned down by racist white male cops is not a high priority at the Times.

This sounds like the Botham Jean shooting in which the accountant was killed in his own apartment by a confused woman cop who thought she was at her own apartment door because she’d gotten off at the wrong floor of the building.

A big difference, however, is that Mr. Jean was wholly innocent (and his survivors in his family behaved superbly to avoid stoking racial hate), while Mr. Wright was wanted for arrest on a gross misdemeanor warrant. And he was arrested for aggravated robbery in February. (Aggravated robbery is robbery using a dangerous weapon.)

As a post-George Floyd Black man (by the way, in the spirit of the times, shouldn’t “man” be capitalized when used with Black? E.g., “A Black Man punched up at a white-privileged white male, who was hospitalized with a broken skull.”), Mr. Wright enjoys the protection of the new Zeroth Amendment of the Bill of Rights: “No Black Man need submit to arrest unless he’s damn well in the mood to be arrested.”

So his getting back in the car, presumably intending to drive off unarrested (or perhaps to grab a gun and start shooting), is what made the incompetent woman cop grab for her taser and instead come up with her gun.

From another NYT article:

He was facing two misdemeanor charges after the Minneapolis police said he had carried a pistol without a permit and had run from officers last June.

In other words, the cops on Sunday were already scared, with good reason, when they got out of the squad car that Wright might be packing an illegal gun again and that he might either use it on them or again flee arrest.

Adrenaline, it’s a helluva drug.

By the way, that reminds me that the Biden Administration is making a big push on gun control … at the same time that the Biden-aligned Establishment is pushing against enforcing existing gun control laws on people who carry illegal concealed weapons as long as they are black: Why are we constantly trying to arrest black men who are merely found to be carrying an illegal handgun? What harm has a black man packing an undocumented pistol ever caused anybody? Why are cops being distracted from the real murder menace: white men with scary-looking rifles?

Democrats are so blinded by racist hate that they have no clue what effective gun control looks like even though their media wing saw it up close and personal in New York: It looks like Bloomberg Era NYPD arresting dirtbags carrying illegal handguns. That drove the NYC murder rate down to Yogi Berra Era levels.

 
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  1. Jack D says:

    The lady cop had good reason to be fearful. The open warrant was because he had missed a court appearance for carrying a pistol without a permit and then fleeing (and they would have known this). Notice a pattern? If they had NOT fired and he shot those two female cops would this be a national story? Would white people go to Daunte’s neighborhood and burn it down?

    In addition, Wright also had previous run-ins with law enforcement. According to court records, he was charged with a petty misdemeanor twice in August 2019—once for selling marijuana and another for disorderly conduct. In February, Wright was charged with aggravated robbery. He was released conditionally, according to jail records. Are any of these angels EVER anything other that POS’s? (Botham John was an exception but even in his case the cops found weed in his apartment. )

    Having female cops may not be such a good idea. I think back in the day fearless Sgt. Frank Rizzo would have taken out his nightstick and bashed that melanzan in the ribs a few time to teach him a lesson about how you shouldn’t resist arrest. OTOH, he probably would NOT have shot him.

  2. “News” is coming at us fast in the Biden-Harris era.

    Austin East High/Magnet HS

    2800 M L King Jr Ave
    Knoxville, TN 37914
    SchoolDigger Rank:
    332nd of 342 Tennessee High Schools
    Total minority enrollment 87%.

    Info missing from the “News”. CNN says it’s probably a white male with an assault rifle.

    • Thanks: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Wilkey
    , @Anonymous
  3. Minneapolis has a habit of incompetent diversity hires accidentally killing suspects (and others).

    Exhibit One: Mohamed Noor, who in 2017 shot an unarmed Australian woman and was subsequently convicted of murder.

  4. It is hard to imagine mistaking the weight and sight picture of a fully loaded Glock with that of a taser.

    But really, if the Young Black Man had not decided to engage in the traditional Black “trial by combat” thing, it all would have turned out differently.

    Minneapolis looks like hell on Earth. I imagine that, winters aside, it was probably once a pleasant place. Oh well, that’s America.

    • Agree: tyrone, anonymouseperson
    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    , @Kibernetika
  5. So his getting back in the car, presumably intending to drive off unarrested, is what made the incompetent woman cop grab for her taser and instead come up with her gun.

    There’s going to be a lot more of this, given how many competent older cops are leaving forces nationwide. Not to mention the related phenomenon of Defund the Police.

    This one happens to be female, but there are more and more incompetent male officers as well, and it’s just ramping up. The future promises to be more and more ‘interesting’.

  6. Best insurance for the costumed criminal class: Always yell ‘Taser!’ thrice before firing anything. Lucky us.

    BTW, there is no ‘accidental’ gun firing here or in most cases; negligent at best.

    • Replies: @mpegmunoiwvnpm
  7. anon[237] • Disclaimer says:

    That is not an accidental discharge of a firearm. That is a negligent discharge of a firearm.

    An accidental discharge would be something such as “the officer dropped the firearm and when it hit the pavement the gun fired”. This is a training issue, a mindset issue, arguably an intelligence issue, but it was not an accidental discharge. It was a negligent discharge.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Anon
  8. Barnard says:

    It is has been 11 months since the peaceful protests in honor St. George Floyd. I would assume a majority of the competent police officers in the MSP metro area have left their jobs, either for early retirement or moved to another job. Maybe the outer suburbs and exburb cops are going to try and ride it out, but inner ring suburb cops have to be looking for a good exit. According to the Census Bureau, Brooklyn Center is 29% black and only 44.5% white, non Hispanic. Without question, that is plenty of time for any remaining good cops to get out of Brooklyn Center, if they ever would have been hard up enough to take a job there in the first place.

  9. Apparently, “TASER confusion” caused the death of another saintly negro martyr, Oscar Grant, right, wouldn’t you know, as he was in the process of “turning his life around”. This incident, which occurred in Oakland, California, inspired the propaganda film Fruitvale Station, starring none other than the world’s sexiest man, Michael B. Jordan, of Black Panther renown.

    Negroes are not involved in such incidents as a result of “racism” or even bad luck but as a consequence of the assiduity of their criminal and anti-social behavior. There are only two ways to prevent the deaths of young negroes at the hands of law enforcement. One is for negroes to behave less criminally. The other is for their criminal behavior to be decriminalized. We all know which of those options liberals and the negroes themselves prefer.

    • Agree: Just another serf
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @throtler
  10. Any possibility the female cop is an Asian lesbian? With two adopted Black kids?

  11. I’m always surprised at how quickly American cops are reportedly fired. I thought police unions were meant to be strong. Or is the firing announcement just the first step in an administrative process? In the UK, cops, in extreme cases, can get their police pensions cancelled too. Does that happen in America?

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Reg Cæsar
  12. @Jack D

    Having female cops may not be such a good idea.

    Female cops are valuable in anything involving female or child victims. In particular, they are very valuable in domestic violence cases (which consume a huge amount of police resources).

    They are often useless in anything involving physical confrontation with male felons; they struggle to project authority and, as in this case, are given to panic.

  13. Mistaking your Glock for your Taser? That is pure incompetence.

    I’m not saying she did the wrong thing. Busting a cap in Devauntavious certainly saved the criminal justice system thousands if not millions and it came to the right result. A little too “Judge Dredd” for contemporary America, but OK. So Minnesota will have to cut another $30million check in the ghetto lottery. That’s why we have the Federal Reserve.

    But her incompetence is just another argument for women’s role being strictly limited to “Kinder, Kueche, Kirche”. Nicht Polizei.

  14. Alfa158 says:

    I have to compliment any cop who actually makes an attempt to do their job. How tempting must it be to, not do something obvious like park behind the doughnut shop and take a nap, but roll down the windows, cruise around seeing nothing, I tell you nothing, and enjoying the breeze until your shift ends.
    See an expired tag; no you didn’t see it. A couple of guys on a corner exchanging a wad of money for a small plastic bag, nothing to see. Laquisha calls in that her baby daddy has violated a protection order and is trying to get away with her car and their three kids in the back? Sure, turn on your siren, but observe all traffic laws getting there, drive at the speed limit, stop at all red lights, maybe make a couple of wrong turns, find a legal parking space to carefully parallel park your patrol car, so that maybe by the time you amble up to the scene the situation is already safely out of your hands. Use up time by going to something innocuous like a porch pirate complaint and spend the rest of your shift interviewing the complainant in depth, canvassing the neighborhood, then finish by spending a couple of hours writing out an excruciatingly detailed report with the length and complexity of an Umberto Eco novel.

  15. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    The kid had a low-status, obese white trash mom, and an absent brainless black dad. For black folks, weak moms and no dads are the standard recipe for oppositional defiance disorder too common to poor dumb black kids. That ain’t changing anytime soon.

    That aside, when you’re detained by police, and proceed to dive back into your car, it might not be that you’re trying to get away. It might be you want to reach your firearm to shoot a policeman in the head as quickly as possible. Cops have to make split second decisions that, if wrong, means they’re dead, or worse, wards of the state following a brain-damaging head wound.

    Check out the link to every cops nightmare:

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/2680182/horror-video-cop-killed-new-mexico/

    Conclusion: Silly black people, with no discernible local, let alone national leadership of African Americans, and no shaming of cowardly black men and women who have children they don’t want to raise, means more no account, no dad having, dumb black hillbilly boys are going to get shot.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
  16. @Jack D

    Having female cops is a bad idea, but Steve is being way hard on her in this case.

    Andy Ngo has a lot of good info, as usual.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @anon
    , @Jack D
  17. The officer, who was not publicly identified…

    A report showed two of the city’s female cops together, one apparently the Taser-toter. Both were blond.

    Here is a Facebook photo of a blond BC cop from six years ago. She might be one of the two in the more recent picture, but I can’t relocate it after seeing it just an hour ago.

    Whatever other problems Brooklyn Center may have, they sure hire attractive lady cops. Not the porkers you see elsewhere. And they make smaller targets!

  18. tyrone says:

    Women cops are good for searching female suspects and comforting small children not arresting black dudes.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
  19. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: I was reading a discussion about the crazy housing market. Once the snow melted, suddenly it’s like every Millennial is bolting for the country. This has been going on ever since Covid, but it’s now like every person in that age bracket has realized that out-of-control minorities and big city Democratic pols have made cities forever unworkable as an idea, so they’ve given up on cities. They realize big city riots and mass looting are here to stay as long as Democratic pols are too gutless to face down the criminal class.

    I never thought the lawless, Wild West would come back–and in America’s big cities, too.

    Hopefully, this is the first step before Millennials give up permanently on voting Democrat.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  20. J.Ross says:

    The audio is hilarious because of the pitch.
    The gay guy from Top Gear once commented on a video of an American police tasing by observing, “And they sing a little song when they tase you! That’s disturbing.” One of the NPR pieces that wasn’t brazenly dishonest noted that police frequently misuse tasers because you need to be an impractical distance away for them to work (the original taser just worked, period; the distance requirement is a result of a jealous and hostile takeover by an inferior company). And there’s the fact that, taller police being more naturally intimidating, they just have an easier time of it, whereas shorter cops have to resort to force more often because morons think they can take them.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @L. Guapo
  21. Barnard says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    The Noor shooting was much worse as he had absolutely no reason to have any weapon drawn. This woman was dealing with a suspect who was being placed under arrest and was attempting to flee. Based on her own words on video she was negligent, but Noor is in another category.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  22. @Reg Cæsar

    Kate, meet Katie. No contest.

    (Kate is a kind of female version of Sheskey, the blond bicycle riding cop in the Jacob Blake case, except Sheskey did all the right things. But my point is they are nice white civic-minded people who got unlucky with obstreperous blacks. This will dissuade decent people like them from joining LE.)

    https://www.nbcnews.com/video/mother-of-daunte-wright-recounts-last-phone-call-with-son-during-fatal-traffic-stop-110060101899

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  23. J.Ross says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s Minnesota, the genetics are German, Swedish, or Somali.

  24. Farenheit says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Any possibility the female cop is an Asian lesbian? With two adopted Black kids?

    Despite the post from Reg Caesar, I’m putting my money on a woman like Officer Willams from Reno 911. Big..black..and sassy!!

  25. J.Ross says:
    @Paperback Writer

    As seems to almost always be the trend, we should be grateful for this tragic accident.

  26. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    God, I certainly hope so. For the sake of our nation.

  27. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says:
    @Goingblankagain

    This problem could be solved with a little equity. Recognize that women have trouble apprehending offenders, so we just allow the female cops to shoot to kill instead of apprehend.

    There, problem solved.

  28. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Having female cops is a bad idea, but Steve is being way hard on her in this case.

    You’re showing off your ignorance again. It doesn’t matter what Wright’s FaceBook pix show, all that matters is the officer’s use of lethal force and whether it fits legal structure or not.

    This is a negligent discharge, and it’s gonna cost the city a lot of money just for a start. A training issue, a mindset issue, possibly an intelligence issue.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @CauCasiAnn
  29. I understand everyone’s points about the lady officer being hyped up on adrenaline.

    Sadly, the average Television Watching News Believer doesn’t.

  30. @Wade Hampton

    Also das Bett but that doesn’t have a K

    • Replies: @Tono Bungay
    , @ben tillman
  31. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:

    Check out the link to every cops nightmare:

    That is a real nightmare. From viewing the vid one learns that the cop pulled over the white pickup truck for dark windows; some state or local areas have limits on window tint. So a typical, every day, mundane traffic stop. Get ticketed and drive on. Except for some detail about insurance or ownership.

    The driver is cooperative right up to the moment the cop asks him to walk back to the cruiser for a full ID. Presumably the check would have pulled up something like an open felony warrant, or perhaps the truck had illegal chemicals hidden away & was on a “hot list”….but whatever it was, the driver committed to killing the cop at that moment. At that distance he does not have to be a crack shot, just lucky enough. Very bad news for the officer and his family.

    The good news is later on the pickup truck driver gets forced off the road by other cops and decides to have a gun fight with them as well. Problem solved.

    Now imagine that you, dear reader, happened to be in one of the cars or trucks that drove right past this situation. You notice a very bad thing happening on the Interstate shoulder, what should you do? What would you do?

    • Replies: @68W58
    , @CCZ
  32. Anon[149] • Disclaimer says:

    This sounds like the Botham Jean shooting in which the accountant was killed in his own apartment by a confused woman cop who thought she was at her own apartment door because she’d gotten off at the wrong floor of the building.

    Women are terrible at navigation and orientation.

  33. Wilkey says:
    @Alfa158

    This comment is why I read the comments.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @schnellandine
  34. Wilkey says:
    @HammerJack

    Info missing from the “News”. CNN says it’s probably a white male with an assault rifle.

    And suddenly “news” sites everywhere, whose headlines made no mention of Phillip Adams’s race, and who dropped the story as quickly as possible, will be screaming “WHITE MAN SHOOTS UP BLACK SCHOOL!” at us for the next four months.

  35. @HammerJack

    As police forces become more woke, reasonable whites will choose to avoid working for them. Over the next 10 to 15 years, police forces will be filled more and more by POX and the most mercenary whites.

    This will hurt both blacks and whites, though I honestly care only about my people.

  36. @Alfa158

    I want cops to do their job protecting my people. What they do in black neighborhoods isn’t my concern.

  37. Hibernian says:
    @anon

    An accidental discharge would be something such as “the officer dropped the firearm and when it hit the pavement the gun fired”.

    That also is negligent.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @Anon
  38. @Just another serf

    Minneapolis looks like hell on Earth. I imagine that, winters aside, it was
    probably once a pleasant place.

    For the life of me, I can’t remember anything like this ever happening on
    The Mary Tyler Moore Show.

    • Agree: Just another serf
  39. Stogumber says:

    Has nobody wondered about the sentence: “The officer had the intention to deploy their taser”? “Their” would normally be the correct form if the cop was transgender. It could further on easily be replaced by “her” if someone forgets to stick to the correct, but for him unusual, term “their”.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
  40. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:

    Could this have been avoided if we had been more accepting of the Trans movement?

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  41. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    That is not an accidental discharge of a firearm. That is a negligent discharge of a firearm.

    An accidental discharge would be something such as “the officer dropped the firearm and when it hit the pavement the gun fired”. This is a training issue, a mindset issue, arguably an intelligence issue, but it was not an accidental discharge. It was a negligent discharge.

    The incompetence was trying to draw a taser rather than a firearm on a man who had warrants out for illegal possession of a firearm, was wrestling with police, and was trying to lunge back into a car.

  42. It would be so great if the lady cop who shot young Daunte Wright was black.

    Suddenly, the reaction would be, “Never mind”.

  43. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian

    That also is negligent.

    What is negligent about a police officer drawing a her gun on a suspect who has a warrant out for illegal possession of a firearm, is wrestling with police, and is attempting to dive back into his motor vehicle?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Hibernian
  44. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The lady cop had good reason to be fearful.

    Did she have good reason to draw a firearm and discharge it into the suspect? Assume both were knowing and intentional.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Hypnotoad666
  45. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    Isn’t this female cop more guilty of murder than Chauvin? Neither intended to kill their perp. But we know she pulled her gun and shot the perp and he died soon thereafter. We’re not sure if it was Floyd’s deadly level or Fentanyl or Chauvin’s knee or a weird combination of both which led to an asphyxiation or cardiac arrest death.

  46. Dr. X says:

    “It is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their Taser, but instead shot Mr. Wright with a single bullet”

    When I was in third grade I was taught that “their” is a plural pronoun.

    After the officer fired, she is heard on the video saying, “Holy shit. I just shot him.”

    I always laugh bitterly and sardonically when I hear lefties say “Only the police and military should be allowed to have guns because they have the proper training.”

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @FPD72
    , @Reg Cæsar
  47. @Wilkey

    You read the comments for twisted paeans to the Nuremberg defense?

  48. Neoconned says:

    I’ve noted before how female cops scare the hell out of me…..mainly because theyre gunhappy….

    There’s a video out there from 2012ish where a female cop is tazing some old white dude with a ponytail……hes writhing on the ground in pain screaming…..she keeps screaming DON’T RESIST…..

    This incident reinforces my previous beliefs…..

  49. JimDandy says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Traits like that certainly never helped help any Proud Boys. Media narratives are immutably hierarchical and allow no complicating facts.

  50. Anonymous[302] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack

    Why is every episode of youths shooting other youths in or near a school — urban, invariably run by a female career-bureaucrats — an automatic exhibit for more federal “anti-gun-violence” grants?

    These go to the cities and counties, not necessarily their police. Does this ritual effect any reduction of Wild West gunplay? Isn’t it just wealth transfer from the taxpayer to loyal Democrat-voting administrative hens?

  51. If the cop had indeed been a white guy, the assertion that he mistook a Glock for a Taser would have been met with open derision in the press, and there would have been calls for the police chief to resign, for his racist deflection of a fib. But it’s a lady, so I expect the stories will now turn to how this was a tragedy, and expect there will be at least some references to her own trauma and heartache. Some, but not too much, as she is white.

    As for Daunte Wright, assuming that coverage doesn’t vanish entirely, future coverage will focus on how systemic racism caused his life to unravel, and forced him to make poor choices, but how he was, at age 20, on the cusp of setting his life straight.

    • Replies: @6dust6
    , @JimDandy
  52. @Anonymous

    Don’t chu be dissin’ no Hillbilly Boyz you punk-ass bitch.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  53. @Alfa158

    How tempting must it be to, not do something obvious like park behind the doughnut shop and take a nap, but roll down the windows, cruise around seeing nothing, I tell you nothing, and enjoying the breeze until your shift ends.

    Minnesota is a doughnut desert. Krispy Kreme was a quick fad, then disappeared just as quickly. The same is true of Tim Horton’s. One was awfully close to the riot– but had closed the year before!

    It looks like all the Twin Cities Tim Hortons locations are closed
    The doughnut chain didn’t even last three years in the metro.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    , @Clyde
  54. 6dust6 says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Was the lady police officer white? Hard to tell what was what by what I saw on the news. Plus no mention of her race.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  55. JimDandy says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Female Officers Often Make Tragic Mistakes Due To Unrelenting Sexist Culture of Policing.

    Not a real headline, yet.

    • LOL: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @photondancer
  56. notsaying says:

    “In other words, the cops on Sunday were already scared, with good reason, when they got out of the squad car that Wright might be packing an illegal gun again and that he might either use it on them or again flee arrest.

    Adrenaline, it’s a helluva drug.”

    We need to talk about cops and their fears. It is a long overdue discussion.

    The obvious explanation for a lot of law enforcement behavior is that cops in America are afraid. In some places they are afraid of many if not most of the younger men they police. Overall America is a very violent nation and has been for centuries, much more prone to violence and using guns than any of our peer rich nations around the world. Our cops are not crazy for being afraid but sometimes their fears lead them to overreact.

    It is a mistake for cops to not talk about how fear drives their actions. It is a mistake for people to be unwilling to acknowledge and accept how violent we are, including white people. It is a mistake not to acknowledge and face the overwhelming violence in poor minority neighborhoods, recognize how it affects the lives of all who live there and be willing to do whatever it takes to reduce it.

    Things will not get better until we acknowledge and take action on the obvious truths we have tried to hide from ourselves.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Hank Archer
    , @Anon
  57. Make it easy on the cops. Berkeley cops can’t pull over cars with expired registration, missing plates or non operating mechanical features such as lights. Turn the streets over to the miscreants. In all honesty I have been stopped for an expired inspection sticker at least twice, but I haven’t been tased or shot, yet. Bad piece of police work in this case.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  58. @Richard of Melbourne

    Noor wasn’t stable enough to be a police officer. He should have been fired, not prosecuted for murder. I’m Australian but that conviction was a miscarriage of justice.

    Police have to be more balanced than average. How many of us could do the job consistently well? [email protected]

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Wilkey
    , @Pericles
  59. Tellingly, the headline to the New York Times detailing events is

    What to Know About the Police Shooting of Daunte Wright

    Not “what is known about …” nor even “what you should know about …” but, rather, what is approved by the Times for you to know.

  60. @6dust6

    Was the lady police officer white? Hard to tell what was what by what I saw on the news.

    All I could see was her hand, which was very pale, and what I could hear was her voice and accent, which sounded, well, white.

  61. @Anon

    While shouting “Taser Taser!”

    • Replies: @Anon
  62. @schnellandine

    A MISTAKEN gun firing. She meant to pull the trigger, but thought she was shooting a taser. Apparently.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  63. I am so sick and tired of the smears that the government throws around (and shamelessly echoed by the press) in order to victimize people.

    • He was pulled over for .. “expired tags”. A $117 fine. Once again we see that cop(s!) are glorified TAX COLLECTORS; for the schools.

    There was a “warrant” (failure to appear). He never received notice.

    He had been charged with a “gross misdemeanor” (carrying without a PERMIT).

    He’d been previously accused of wrongdoing (selling pot).

    Those were all completely ridiculous, victimless (i.e. non-) crimes, yet we’re supposed to think he had it coming.

    [MORE]

    In MN, criminal/traffic/etc. fines are allocated such that the first $75 (i.e. the “surcharge”), and at least 1/3 of the amount above that, all go to the state’s general fund; figure HALF of that goes to schools. (In many states, ALL such fines are reserved for public education purposes.)

    Had the cops not killed him, the mulcting would have caused his eventual, out-of-pocket no doubt to shoot up to over $1,000.

    Cha-ching! A real payday for the schools.

    Naturally, when schoolies complain about “underfunding”, they neglect to count the very real cost of the unionized cops employed to shakedown motorists, and indeed, the darn near entire, traffic court system.

    (In MN, if someone fights the ticket, or if it was issued by a state trooper, ALL of the fine heads over to the GF.)

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Buffalo Joe
    , @jon
    , @El Dato
  64. Happens to White male cops too.

  65. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    my vaginaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  66. Dumbo says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    He should have been fired, not prosecuted for murder.

    ???

    No, first of all, he shouldn’t have been hired. But, since he was, and shot someone for no reason, the murder charge seems appropriate.

    It’s like they hire some incompetent black or transgender surgeon because of AA, then the surgeon kills the patient by mistakenly removing his heart instead of his kidney, or some other gross error, should he not be tried for medical malpractice?

    Police have to be more balanced than average. How many of us could do the job consistently well?

    True, but the onus is on those who hire. In certain professions in particular, there should be no AA or politically correct hiring. It’s like the NFL or the NBA hires mostly blacks because they run faster etc. Fine. But then, why should the police or fire brigade hire women or transgenders or whatever, instead of just getting those who are more fit to do the job?

    • Replies: @Lurker
  67. utu says:
    @notsaying

    “…fear drives their actions…” – Fear is invoked in defense like that by Betty Shelby who killed Terrence Crutcher. But it is the impunity that sets the threshold for shooting very low.

    She stood in line with three other cops and it was her who shot Terrence Crutcher. If Betty Shelby was not acquitted perhaps there would be less unnecessary shootings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Terence_Crutcher

  68. @J.Ross

    On St. Mark’s Place in East Greenwich Village in 1982, I heard a woman screaming in rage. I figured it was a homeless crazy woman, but it turned out to be 5’2″ woman NYPC cop trying to keep a 6’8″ black man from preventing her male partner arresting his friend. My impression afterwards was that little lady’s rage was an act to make the giant black man fear that she really would shoot him. But it could be she really was out of control from adrenaline.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @R.G. Camara
    , @Anon
  69. @Anon

    I addressed this (regarding genetic upgrades of IQ) in my recent Counter-Currents article, “Look Out Honey ‘Cause I’m Using Technology!”

    Conservatives hate technology (e.g. Heidegger) because it allows Liberals to accomplish their goals.

    Conservative: There’s two genders, dad gum it! God/Nature intended men and women to perform different tasks!

    Liberal: We invented transwomen. Fixed it for you.

    At the end of the day, Conservatives are no different than apocalyptic Christians, waiting in their bunkers for the “inevitable” revenge of God/Nature, while Liberals go from triumph to triumph on the wings of reason and science.

    They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” — 2 Peter 3:4

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  70. Wilkey says:

    Yet another arrest gone wrong where Diversity Did Not Make Us Stronger.

    Philando Castille was killed by a Hispanic cop.

    Justine Diamond was killed by a black Somali cop.

    Freddie Gray was killed by several black cops.

    Botham Jean was killed by a female cop.

    George Floyd died while being arrested by black and Asian cops.

    That Army lieutenant was pepper sprayed by a Hispanic cop.

    And now this guy, whose arrest involved a female cop and at least one black cop.

    My point is not to say that these officers were all in the wrong. It’s to say that those who do believe they are in the wrong are also the kind most likely to believe that “diveristy makes us stronger,” and that somehow fewer white men on the beat will make our neighborhoods safer. Hard to square those beliefs with the police shootings that have been the source of so much contention.

    And now probably several hundred or thousands more people will be killed this year than otherwise would have been, as politicians and the media go about on another spree of police demonization yet again, and the cops decide that it’s safer to sit in a parking lot and sip coffee.

    But the vast majority of those extra deaths will be people who buy all this BLM nonsense, so I guess I can’t be bothered to care.

    • Agree: notsaying
    • Replies: @photondancer
  71. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    What is negligent about a police officer drawing a her gun on a suspect who has a warrant out for illegal possession of a firearm, is wrestling with police, and is attempting to dive back into his motor vehicle?

    While shouting “Taser Taser!”

    Yes, while shouting “Taser Taser!”

    That doesn’t change the point I am trying (perhaps poorly) to make. Or I may not grasp the one you are making.

    Under those very dangerous circumstances, would the officer have been justified in drawing her gun—intentionally—and discharging it? If so, why the hubbub?

    One could even argue that if there was any incompetence on the part of the officer, it was in choosing a taser over a firearm in those circumstances. The suspect posed all kinds of threats, to her, to her partner, to the immediate public of nearby pedestrians and motorists. To not mention to the general public (see the warrants for his arrest and his social media tracks).

    • Agree: Rosie
  72. @Alfa158

    “The Names of the Ho’s”?

    • Replies: @Cortes
  73. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Wouldn’t your fear be heightened if you just saw on your computer that the guy you just stopped is wanted on an open warrant for unlicensed firearms possession and fleeing from the police and here you are and the guy is fleeing AGAIN? You don’t have a lot of time to contemplate this all before Daunte starts to take off but the last time the guy fled he had a pistol – it stands to reason that he might have one now too.

    It appears that she did not intend to shoot Daunte with her pistol. She intended to draw her taser instead but became confused. I really don’t blame her because this has happened to a lot of cops – you can’t imagine the stress that they are under, the fear of being shot by the POS’s that they have to deal with every day and their crazy cleverness when it comes to violence – concealing weapons up their butt and so on – nothing is off limits. I do blame the police depts for even giving them tasers which are worthless to begin with and apparently issuing them in a way that causes confusion. If this was the 1st time that it happened I would blame the cop but this has happened many time so something is wrong with the holstering such that they can be confused with each other under stressful conditions.

    • Agree: CCZ
    • Thanks: Rosie
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    , @Neuday
  74. Wilkey says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    Noor wasn’t stable enough to be a police officer. He should have been fired, not prosecuted for murder. I’m Australian but that conviction was a miscarriage of justice.

    Being “unstable” is not an excuse for murdering someone, whether they’re a civilian or a cop. Noor had no reason to point his weapon at Diamond, and no reason to consider her a threat.

    The Brooklyn Center officer had every reason to have a firearm drawn. In fact it was her obligation to have it drawn. The fact that she drew the wrong weapon means that she probably should not be a police officer, but it doesn’t make her guilty of murder.

  75. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Back in the day, NYC cops used to be big beefy Irish men who resembled Frank (the “Irishman”) Sheeran and who were issued nightsticks that they could use to subdue or threaten unruly persons.

    Then they made 5’2″ women cops and instead of nightsticks either they were left with their pistols or else unreliable tasers. I’m not sure this was an improvement. There are a lot of things in our society that I’m not sure are improvements.

    • Agree: JMcG, PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  76. Jack D says:
    @Goingblankagain

    Then they should put these cops on some kind of special squad for domestic situations, not have them on the beat trying to subdue Gentle Giants who are resisting arrest.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  77. The other day I had a police officer knock on my door and said they had gotten a 911 call from the apartment complex and had I seen or heard anything suspicious lately. Which is fine. The thing that was odd was her height. Estimate 5’2″. No way was she 5’5″. I cannot imagine her attempting to deal with an actual violent criminal. I wonder how much they have to bench press or dead lift in the fitness test.

    • Thanks: SafeNow
  78. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    Judging by her hands, she’s white. Judging by Minnesota, she’s blonde.

    Judging by the way she needlessly interfered with the black cop who already had the situation under control, thereby giving the suspect a chance to escape, she’s a woman.

  79. JMcG says:
    @Henry's Cat

    The Union will generally take the dismissal case to arbitration. It has a duty to represent its members, and if it doesn’t, can itself be subject to a lawsuit by the wronged member. There would be no obligation to represent in the case of criminal activity.
    Many times, if an officer is acquitted of whatever charge he may have been dismissed for, the Union and the employer will negotiate a settlement which can include reinstatement and back pay.
    The Union cannot act to prevent the dismissal, but once the dismissal occurs, it can then work on behalf of its member.

    I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve been involved in many an arbitration case from the Union side.

  80. @Alfa158

    You sir, either are, or have been in patrol. Your grasp of the current climate is spot on.

  81. JMcG says:
    @Alfa158

    Police cars are universally tracked by GPS these days. Many police cars are equipped with license plate readers now, so the shift supervisor knows as well as the cop if a registration is expired or if a car is registered to someone with a warrant. The laptop has a camera, the cops wear body cameras, they all have front and rear-facing dash cams too.
    No way in hell would I want to be a cop these days. The job gets approximately the same level of respect as a garbage collector and it’s rapidly getting worse.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  82. SafeNow says:

    Most police departments have firearms practice only about twice a year. This is not nearly often enough; the psychomotor skills are extremely perishable. Also, dry-firing with a trainer gun can be done anywhere. Good trainers have the identical heft and feel of a Glock. A friend here in Calif. had a concealed-carry permit years ago, and to maintain his permit, he had to go to the range twice a month. Article on training:

    https://www.police1.com/police-training/articles/police-firearms-training-how-often-should-you-be-shooting-RNSWpyCwLzR9Csrf/

    • Replies: @anon
  83. @Paperback Writer

    Good heavens, look at all that chain link! Never a good sign… Didn’t notice any Little Free Libraries. They don’t last in poor neighborhoods because they get emptied en masse.

    The Brooklyns are mostly blue-collar exurbs, and seem to have attracted minorities by their relatively low prices. White ladies like this one are not rare. Note her pronunciation of insurance.

    Here, ma’am, let Tony Sheridan show you how it’s done:

    Even Jimmy Reed will suffice:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Ganderson
  84. 68W58 says:
    @anon

    It’s a fair question. I suppose that the best thing to do, maybe the only thing to do, would be to find a place to wait safely for the gunman to leave and then try to render aid. But I do wonder that if you did that what the reaction of responding police might be. After all, they come upon one of their fellows dead or dying and don’t know what you are doing there-that could be dangerous for you. I still think it might be the right thing to do, but I would like to hear what a cop thinks about your question.

  85. JMcG says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    Driving around without registration is driving around without insurance. That’s not a victimless crime. If you don’t want to pay, stay the eff off the streets. Look at the pictures posted above of the dead sc**bag with fistfuls of 100.00 bills.

    • Agree: Paperback Writer
    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
  86. @Henry's Cat

    I thought police unions were meant to be strong.

    Only when they endorse Democrats.

  87. @Just another serf

    It is hard to imagine mistaking the weight and sight picture of a fully loaded Glock with that of a taser.

    Yes. I’m no cop and am not very familiar with current day cop training, but do they advise going around with a round in the chamber and the safety off? Can’t imagine that. Or did she actually draw and chamber a round and consciously disengage the safety and fire?

    This cop responded the way a gangbanger would! Poorly. And with similar results.

    The ancients had this bizarre notion of testing for level of training, ability and operational fitness. Alas, those days are long gone.

  88. Mr. Anon says:

    OT – Mexican thieves hijack truck carrying radioactive material:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/extremely-dangerous-radioactive-material-stolen-mexico-truck-hijacking

    Ah, not again! Don’t you hate it when that happens!?

    • LOL: Paperback Writer
    • Replies: @Neoconned
  89. Dr. X says:
    @Wade Hampton

    Mistaking your Glock for your Taser? That is pure incompetence.

    I always thought cops were supposed to carry the taser in a position opposite their firearm — i.e., a right handed cop would carry the taser on the left side in a crossdraw position to avoid confusion with the strong-side carry of the pistol.

    If that was the policy of the BCPD, then it was a major fuck-up indeed on her part.

    But if both the pistol and the taser were holstered on the strong side, then the department has a major training screwup on its hands as well.

    I also thought tasers were bright yellow for the purpose of avoiding confusion with the duty pistol.

    If George Floyd’s baby mamas got $27 million because he died of a drug overdose, the lawyers are probably going to sue for triple that amount in this case.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @ES
    , @vhrm
  90. @Jack D

    Back in the day, NYC cops used to be big beefy Irish men who resembled Frank (the “Irishman”) Sheeran and who were issued nightsticks that they could use to subdue or threaten unruly persons

    Pretty much the same devolution in the police forces seems to have happened over in the UK.

    From the Manchester Evening News:

    An official police photogrpah of ‘Scarface’ Alf Foster in the 1920s (Image: Greater Manchester Police)

    In a post on history section of their website GMP say: “He is said to have struck fear into the villains of Collyhurst and Miles Platting with his formidable stature – weighing in at 20 stones – and imposing presence.

    “He was known locally as Scarface due to a deep wound across his left cheek. Many fanciful stories were told about how he had gained his scar – which no doubt helped build his reputation – in reality, he was wounded by shrapnel while fighting in the trenches.

    “He is said to have mastered the art of bringing down a fleeing miscreant with a well-aimed throw of his sergeants’ stick.

    “Such was his reputation that parents would only have threaten an unruly child with a visit from Scarface and order was soon restored.

    Some Manchester police officers today:

  91. @Abolish_public_education

    A_p_e, In Buffalo the new cash wells are the school zone speed cameras….15 MPH. The one I got a warning for is right off the expressway. The speed zone on Best Ave covers atleast three full blocks. Camera company splits 50-50 with the city. This will last until too many members of the community are ticketed. In my town the speed in front of the HS is 45 mph, turn the corner and it is 15. Rarely see a trooper or sheriff ticketing, rarely see drivers exceeding the 15 mph by more than 5 mph

    • Replies: @BigJimSportCamper
  92. @PiltdownMan

    Pilt, do good little boys get a visit from the two lady cops? Asking for a friend.

    • LOL: PiltdownMan
  93. Gamecock says:

    Mr. Wright had been initially pulled over because of an expired registration on the vehicle he was driving. The video showed a brief struggle between Mr. Wright and police officers before one of the officers fired her gun.

    So how did that work out for you, Mr. Wright?

  94. Dr. X says:
    @Kibernetika

    but do they advise going around with a round in the chamber and the safety off? Can’t imagine that. Or did she actually draw and chamber a round and consciously disengage the safety and fire?

    Literally all cops carry with a round in the chamber, and probably 90% or more of them today are issued striker-fired semiautomatics with no safety, such as Glock 19s and S&W M&Ps.

    The relatively few cops that are still carrying DA/SA pistols with a safety lever (such as the Beretta 92/96) are going to carry them with the safety lever off. The longer double-action first pull provides a margin of “safety” the same way a double action revolver does.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  95. @Stogumber

    Is there any doubt it was written the way it was to intentionally obfuscate that it was a woman? These stories always fit the same pattern where they have bizarre use of language or extreme dereliction of journalistic duty (ignoring Who? What? Where?) to avoid including hate facts.

  96. @Kibernetika

    Kiber, I fired a 9 mm Glock at a range two weeks ago in the Cleveland area. The barrel and receiver were steel, almost everything else was plastic. Pretty lightweight hand gun.

  97. @Kibernetika

    I’m also not a cop. But carrying a pistol in their line of business, without a round chambered would be crazy. It’s clearly a Glock and they have no separate safety as you might see on a 1911 or other pistols with a traditional safety.

    This was a cop with poor skills. Evidence suggests that policing Blacks is an incomprehensibly dangerous job. It’s a horrible job any way you look at it. Just always ugly and soul crushing.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Kibernetika
  98. anon[571] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    It doesn’t matter what Wright’s FaceBook pix show, all that matters is the officer’s use of lethal force and whether it fits legal structure or not.

    It was reasonable of the officer to use lethal force.

  99. dvorak says:

    I got stopped by a lady cop in my / Automobile / She said get out an’ spread yo’ legs / And then she tried to cop a feel (Feel, Feel)
    [NSFW] [All-time great outro]

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  100. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @SafeNow

    Most police departments have firearms practice only about twice a year.

    Or once per year in some smaller places. Firearms Training Officers (FTO’s) have some cool stories, like “he came to the range right off shift and there was no mag in his gun” or “he came to the range right off shift and he had the wrong caliber ammo in his mag” or “he came to the range off shift and his gun didn’t work because it was gooed closed with something sticky, like dried out soda”. Cops also break their radios from time to time. It’s all just issue gear.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @nokangaroos
  101. Lurker says:
    @Dumbo

    No, first of all, he shouldn’t have been hired

    First of all, he should have been in Africa.

    • Agree: William Badwhite, Kylie
    • LOL: JMcG, Dumbo, nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
  102. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kibernetika

    Yes. I’m no cop and am not very familiar with current day cop training, but do they advise going around with a round in the chamber and the safety off? Can’t imagine that.

    In the US a police sidearm is presumed to be loaded with a round chambered. Other countries have different standards.

    Or did she actually draw and chamber a round and consciously disengage the safety and fire?

    On a Glock the primary safety is in the middle of the trigger. Generally no external safety[1]. Here is a brief explanation.

    https://www.australianpolice.com.au/the-glock-22-pistol/

    This cop responded the way a gangbanger would! Poorly. And with similar results.

    Nah, she hit the guy, not the passenger and not someone down the street, so higher accuracy than gang types.

    [1] The only real “safety device” is between the ears.

  103. unit472 says:

    I’ve hear police canine units are expensive but so is Ben Crump and his ilk. Equipping police with a 150 lbs rottweiller might be a better alternative. A police officer can determine what bankers call VAR or value at risk during a traffic stop. He/she can chose whether or not to take the canine unit out to assist or leave it in the back of their SUV. There will be disproportionate impact because stopping a neatly dressed middle aged motorist for a traffic violation is less risky than stopping a hoodrat with an outstanding warrant.

    Would Michael Brown, George Floyd or some other BLM hero resisted arrest IF officers Derrick Wilson of Chauvin had been able to deploy a 150 lbs rottweiller first? I’ve even seen video where an officer can deploy the canine remotely, i.e. ‘release the hound’ from his vehicle if the situation goes ‘south’

    A pity its devolved to this but not many criminals are willing to engage in hand to mouth combat with a large dog and it buys the human officer ( police canine units are considered LEO) valuable time to respond if they do.

  104. Lurker says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Sgt. Foster looks like a member of the Not Fucking Around Constabulary.

    Those police ladies may look pretty but useless . . . however one of their colleagues has pushed the boundaries of faggotry seemingly beyond that which should be scientifically possible.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7357390/backlash-after-cop-dresses-lgbt-bee

    • LOL: schnellandine
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  105. Jack D says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Daunte seems to be the usual POS (are there ANY upstanding young black males who resist arrest or are they always thugs?) and really no great loss but his family will collect millions anyway. He hadn’t really done anything (yet) that deserved execution (as far as we know) but a sane society would say “no great loss. Our society is better off without this thug. I hope other young males learn from this not to resist arrest because thing can go wrong in an instant.”

    George Floyd’s brother was weeping on the witness stand today about what a great man he was but then he mentioned that he hadn’t seen his brother since his mother’s funeral in 2018. If he was such a great guy, why did you never see him?

  106. anonymous[265] • Disclaimer says:
    @Just another serf

    This was a cop with poor skills. Evidence suggests that policing Blacks is an incomprehensibly dangerous job.

    The officer was justified in using lethal force. The suspect was in possession of a deadly weapon (the car itself) and could have had other deadly weapons within the car.

  107. @Kibernetika

    Yes. I’m no cop and am not very familiar with current day cop training, but do they advise going around with a round in the chamber and the safety off? Can’t imagine that. Or did she actually draw and chamber a round and consciously disengage the safety and fire?

    Glocks have a trigger safety.

    I’ve read that you can get a manual safety for Glocks in Massachusetts (as well as an after market add-on).

    Israeli Carry?
    by Bill Kincheloe ([email protected])

    Israeli Carry?

    For those of you that don’t know, “Israeli Carry” is the practice carrying a pistol without a round in the chamber. The Israelis didn’t invent the practice but it got the name from Israeli armed forces policy.

    A little background: When Israel was founded, “drop safe” firearms were not as common as today and the fledgling state had a mixed bag of armaments scrounged from all over the world. They also have a conscript military which forces them to deal with all-comers. There is some value to a manual of arms the accommodates a variety of weapons and skill levels.

    Those early days were the definitive time in Israel’s history and so became enshrined in tradition, like ideas from the Revolutionary War have been in the US. While other military and police forces have largely abandoned the practice, it has remained in Israel. Israel’s military is very competent and capable, an exception to the rule regarding conscript armies. This lends more credibility to their ideas.

    Armed Forces do not start gunfights at “social distances” if they can avoid it and generally not with pistols. Military policies on pistols (and more) are generally driven by officers worried about the effect on their careers if some 17 y/o does something stupid. We are more concerned with personal protection, however, and should look at the problem differently.

    Most interpersonal violence occurs at distances that make un-chambered carry
    impractical. It is difficult to rob or rape someone from across the street so the problem often becomes clear at arms length or closer. Frequently the victim is forced to draw while wresting or fending off an attacker or after being knocked or thrown to the ground. The need for two hands complicates all of that.

    “Israeli Carry” is much slower. The Israelis train hard to mitigate this disadvantage but it will never be as fast as a chambered draw.

    Advantages
    1. Safer (safer than safe is pretty safe, right?)
    2. Safer if you leave a loaded pistol laying around (but we don’t do that, right?)
    3. Safer in the case of a gun grab (but we conceal or use retention holsters, right?)

    Disadvantages
    1. Requires two hands (or advanced techniques that new shooter are unlikely to know)
    2. Slower
    3. Difficult if in physical contact with an assailant
    4. Makes it easier for the assailant to disarm the defender
    5. The defender can’t shoot from retention or during the press out

    https://www.creedmoortrainingacademy.com/blog/israeli-carry

  108. JMcG says:
    @Dr. X

    Glocks do have a safety, the blade in the trigger face that must be depressed before the pistol will fire. I’m not a fan, but millions are.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    , @schnellandine
  109. @JMcG

    The job gets approximately the same level of respect as a garbage collector and it’s rapidly getting worse.

    Much of the ‘respect’ cops got was from the self-serving farce/delusion they wove about having the most dangeresterous job ever. Yet garbage worker stats have historically shown their profession as being more fatal per capita than cop ‘work’ (cops mostly loaf). So, based on ‘risking their lives for the community’, why should not garbage workers be accorded more respect? They get the shit without the swagger, and are regularly derided casually by the likes of you, for comparison shorthand.

    Were I forced to be one or the other, only one is noble work, and it isn’t costumed criminality; the only choice would be garbageman.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  110. @unit472

    Jacob Blake of Kenosha waved a gun around in a bar in 2015 and then resisted arrest. But Racine police sent K-9 officer Dozer to subdue him, which was better for Blake than getting shot 7 times as in 2020.

  111. L. Guapo says:
    @J.Ross

    I’m pretty sure Clarkson, May and Hammond are all man, man.

    • Replies: @Mr Mox
  112. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Note to primitive Negroes who attempt to mourn-kill the police during your wildings:

    Try it, and that’s an impact munitions to the face, son:

  113. @mpegmunoiwvnpm

    A MISTAKEN gun firing. She meant to pull the trigger, but thought she was shooting a taser. Apparently.

    Okay, mistaken. Therefore negligent.

    • Replies: @Anon
  114. @Jack D

    ‘…In addition, Wright also had previous run-ins with law enforcement. According to court records, he was charged with a petty misdemeanor twice in August 2019—once for selling marijuana and another for disorderly conduct. In February, Wright was charged with aggravated robbery…’

    This is really the story. If you keep having interactions with the police, the odds that eventually one will go sideways keeps climbing.

    So every now and then, chronic criminals wind up getting killed by the police. Sometimes justifiably, sometimes unjustifiably…but it really is all a matter of the odds. Get busted by the police often enough, sooner or later someone will make a mistake.

    • Agree: slumber_j
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  115. @anon

    “he came to the range off shift and his gun didn’t work because it was gooed closed with something sticky, like dried out soda”.

    This what happens if you lubricate a gun with something like TriFlon and it sits around for years untouched. Clean and lubricate your weapon every once in a while.

  116. Ganderson says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Gordon’s Bakery in Dinkytown used to have great donuts, as well as yummy sweet rolls. Not there anymore AFAIK. Here in the 413 we have both DD and Tim’s, but the best is the Donut Dip in West Springfield. No other donut places are even close.

  117. Hibernian says:
    @Anon

    There are no accidental firearm discharges, only negligent ones. Dropping the gun on the ground would be negligent. same principle applies with cars; when there is an “accident,” one or both of the drivers are negligent.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Jack D
  118. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hibernian

    There are no accidental firearm discharges, only negligent ones.

    Nope. The officer acted reasonably under the circumstances.

  119. Ganderson says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Brooklyn Center is a first-ring suburb- it borders on Minneapolis, the part of the North side that was still white when I was in school. Dunno if it still is; guessing not. Jesse Ventura used to be the mayor. Brooklyn Park is second ring.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    , @Reg Cæsar
  120. Veracitor says:

    Taser/pistol confusion is both understandable, and I suggest, likely forgivable. Current-model “police” Tasers are shaped like automatic pistols and some departments encourage officers to carry them like pistols in belt holsters, accepting the well-known risk that even a respectable, competent officer may draw the wrong weapon in a tense situation.

    “So what?” you say. “That officer shouldn’t have drawn her pistol when she wanted her Taser, right? She must be incompetent because she is a woman.”

    So we’re all speculating her, but consider this: that woman officer may have carried her pistol in a “retention holster” that forces her to make some fancy moves to draw that pistol at all. She may have drilled assiduously to make those moves to draw her pistol smoothly, thereby training her subconscious “muscle memory” to move her hand to her pistol and twiddle her fingers just right to get her pistol out of its straightjacket so she can present it to the threat.

    Now, do you suppose that officer trained as much with the Taser? I wouldn’t have, because (a) if the Taser is the appropriate weapon in some situation, then that situation cannot be very dire (or else the pistol would be appropriate), so I should have plenty of time to draw the Taser; and (b) the Taser is in a different and (probably) simpler holster– I would not want training to draw the Taser to override or confuse the extremely complex and vital muscle memory I need to draw my pistol from its retention holster.

    It may well turn out that at a conscious level the officer wished to draw her Taser but in the stress of the moment her (generally admirable) training led her hand subconsciously to her pistol. If the incident provokes any policy changes, maybe those should involve keeping Tasers in patrol cars rather than on belts or some similar hack to prompt officers to reach for Tasers only in low-risk situations and in a manner which minimizes weapon confusion.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @PiltdownMan
  121. @PiltdownMan

    Thanks, great profile.

    In my Northeast Baltimore neighborhood when I was a kid we had a well known beat cop whom was nicknamed Wyatt Earp. In reality he was Joseph Prybl, Krysz Symanz or something Ski. Big old Polish guy. He was a good man. Fair, cordial, but not overly friendly.

    This was when cops carried .38 Smith Wesson “Police Special” revolvers.

    I can picture him walking down the road, whistling and flipping his nightstick with the leather thong around his wrist.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  122. Jack D says:
    @Hibernian

    same principle applies with cars; when there is an “accident,” one or both of the drivers are negligent.

    This is not true. Most accidents involve negligence but not all. You could have a sudden mechanical failure of the brakes or steering. You could be driving at a safe speed and suddenly hit a patch of invisible black ice. There could be an unmarked hazard in the road. Etc.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  123. @Reg Cæsar

    Dear Reg:

    You could have added that in Minnesota, blondes have more gun and that their trigger-happy harpy hijinks go way beyond any Ashli Babbittry.
    It must Sauk to be you.
    BTW, Ex-Officer Noor is appealing his conviction on the grounds that he had been (sorry) “spooked” by a down under thundering of “Bibbidi-Babbitty-Blondie-BOO!”

    Staying Centered,
    Sinclair “Jason” Lewis,
    The F. Scott Fitzgerald House
    @theJustineDiamondAsBigAsTheRitz
    599 Summit Pale Ale Avenue
    Sauk Centre, Minnesota

    cc Jason Lewis*, Camp Crystalnacht Lake, MN

    Also see – Increasingly trending upwards: Male ROGD ending in Lorena Bobbittry, A Killing Spree of Babbittry Grows in Brooklyn Center

    [MORE]

    * Fact Checking:
    1. Mr. Lewis has never advocated the use of firearms, Tasers or machetes to punish camp counselors engaged in fornication.
    2. He has lost fewer races than Harold Stassen.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  124. @Lurker

    …one of their colleagues has pushed the boundaries of faggotry seemingly beyond that which should be scientifically possible.

    Bee civil. It’s clearly a case of rapid onset phylum dysphoria.

    Kanye manœuvre those louvres, mate officer?

  125. @Jack D

    If he was such a great guy, why did you never see him?

    It’s because he didn’t feel worthy of being in The Presence.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  126. anon[400] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m always surprised at how quickly American cops are reportedly fired.

    Never mind the cop, we have another firing.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/daunte-wright-shooting-brooklyn-center-city-manager-fired-call-due-process-police-officer

    Elliot is the city mayor, Boganey is the city manager.

    Both Elliott and Boganey addressed potential disciplinary action toward the officer during a press conference earlier in the day. At the time, Elliott called for the officer to be fired. “Let me be very clear – my position is that we cannot afford to make mistakes that lead to the loss of life of other people in our profession,” Elliott said. “I do fully support releasing the officer of her duties.”

    Ok…

    Before leaving the podium, Elliott noted that Boganey, as city manager, had the authority to determine whether the officer would be fired. Boganey noted that he would not take immediate action to remove the officer. “All employees working for the city of Brooklyn Center are entitled to due process with respect to discipline,” Boganey said. “This employee will receive due process and that’s really all that I can say today.”

    When pressed on whether he personally felt the officer should be fired, Boganey again called for due process.

    And then?

    The Brooklyn Center City Council voted to fire Boganey, a longtime city employee, during an emergency meeting, the Star Tribune reported. At the same meeting, the council voted to give the mayor command authority over the city’s police department.

    What experience does the mayor have in running a po-lice department? And why so sudden to fire the city manager? Does he get some due process, or is his position strictly at-will?

    During a virtual workshop after the meeting, Council Member Kris Lawrence-Anderson said she voted to fire Boganey out of fear of potential reprisals from protestors if she did not, according to the newspaper.

    Oh, ok. Seems legit. As long as there’s a good reason, not just some emotional reaction.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  127. Anon7 says:

    The NYTimes rushed out an article on instances when an officer fired a gun instead of their taser, and examples are given of white male officers who shot instead of tasing.

    However, useful information was inadvertently included:

    “In most cases, Deputy Obayashi said, the confusion occurs when officers carry both weapons on the same side of their body, or holster their stun guns on the opposite side of their body in such a way that it is easier for them to reach across with a dominant hand and cross-draw without deliberating.

    “In six of the nine cases from the 2012 article, including the shooting in Oakland, the officers carried both weapons on the same, “strong-hand” side of their bodies.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/04/12/us/tasers-guns-daunte-wright.amp.html

    So, what’s the training policy in this town?

    • Replies: @jon
  128. Danindc says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Huh? She interfered with the black cop? Wtf are you talking about?

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  129. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:

    The problem is not that she is a woman. The problem is that she is a black woman.

    :
    :
    :
    :

    (I actually don’t know that, but there is nothing in the article that I found to abuse me of the notion)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  130. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Veracitor

    “So what?” you say. “That officer shouldn’t have drawn her pistol when she wanted her Taser, right? She must be incompetent because she is a woman.”

    Would she have been justified in drawing her pistol?

  131. El says:
    @Jack D

    “… even in his case the cops found weed in his apartment.”

    If I’m encountering a person know to be violent, I would hope they are stone, if not then sober but what I fear most is the violent, unreasonable drunk.

    Try not to march to the rules of the same state that is fucking us over with it’s racist laws.

  132. @Jack D

    I appreciate your sentiments but one nitpick: Daunte wasn’t executed. It was an accident.

    And anyway, he’s got a Junior so his glorious genes will continue, at least until Daunte Jr. gets himself killed prematurely (inshallah).

    Now look at that egg donor of his. Look at him. At 20 he’s a father sperm donor with live issue.

    If that don’t tell you everything that’s wrong with modern Amurrica, nothing does.

  133. JMcG says:
    @Jack D

    In Pennsylvania, no fault accrues to the driver if he hits a whitetail deer. If you swerve to avoid one and strike something else, the fault is then the driver’s.

  134. @Jack D

    PS – Where the fuck did the name Daunte come from, and I know that it’s the moronic version of “Dante” but why would blacks name their kids something Italian?

  135. @Veracitor

    Taser/pistol confusion is both understandable, and I suggest, likely forgivable. Current-model “police” Tasers are shaped like automatic pistols and some departments encourage officers to carry them like pistols in belt holsters, accepting the well-known risk that even a respectable, competent officer may draw the wrong weapon in a tense situation.

    Police grade Tasers seem to be made in black and bright yellow versions. It would make sense for the police to order only the yellow versions, to avoid any mix-ups in the heat of the moment, as they say happened in the Brooklyn Center case.

    Could it be that police departments avoid the yellow versions because they don’t look like they mean business, and so, are less likely to elicit compliance?

  136. Dan Smith says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    She was a 26 year veteran of the force. So not a rookie mistake. Even females can tell the difference between right and left. She warned her her fellow cops she was going to tase the perp but was holding her handgun.

  137. El says:

    So nice to see Minnesota making the national news so frequently. Before the good christians enriched the place, nothing news worthy ever happened.

  138. ES says:
    @Dr. X

    I wonder if there is a design flaw in the tasers in that this is not the first case of a pistol being mistaken for the taser. I doubt a bright yellow color is sufficient. In a situation like this the cop will be looking at her target, not at the weapon she drew. Maybe the taser grip and trigger needs to be redesigned to be less like that of a pistol. While a pistol may need to be fired immediately when it is drawn, a taser, being the nonlethal alternative, should not need to be fired immediately. That should should allow for a different design less optimized for speed.

    No sympathy though for either the dead perp–his jumping back in the car when the male cop was unable to get the cuffs on him on the first try was the primary factor in his death–or the state of Minnesota which has pandered to its Black criminals and continues to import more from Somalia.

  139. “accidental discharge”

    Never a good thing.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Kylie
  140. @notsaying

    Violence among Americans of European descent today is roughly the same as among 21st century Dutch.

    America’s violence issue is not being caused by heritage Americans.

  141. @Almost Missouri

    Judging by her hands, she’s white. Judging by Minnesota, she’s blonde.

    Judging by the way she needlessly interfered with the black cop who already had the situation under control, thereby giving the suspect a chance to escape, she’s a woman.

    It’s like the attack of the killer Karen!

  142. Marty says:
    @Alfa158

    I got a look at police hands-off culture just last night. I was driving home to SF from Yosemite. Had no intention of being in Oakland, but missed my cut-off for the San Mateo bridge. Figured I’d get off and turn around, but the exit I picked was packed, really backed up. As I got closer cars already stuck in the exit were crawling over the median to get back on the freeway. Reason? There was a sideshow going on.

  143. @Anon

    Her hands look fair in her body cam video.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
  144. Zoos says:

    Kill it with fire!

  145. @Buzz Mohawk

    “accidental discharge”

    Never a good thing.

    • Replies: @Alden
  146. @Colin Wright

    What’s “aggravated robbery” and why is it worse than robbery, which seems pretty bad in and of itself?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  147. Clyde says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That’s good for Minnesota because donuts are crap sugary poison. Give you a lard ass.

  148. Mike Tre says:
    @Goingblankagain

    “Female cops are valuable in anything involving female or child victims. In particular, they are very valuable in domestic violence cases (which consume a huge amount of police resources).”

    This is why god made social workers. Take away their gun and hand them a screening tool.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  149. JMcG says:
    @schnellandine

    You’re right, that was a thoughtless comparison on my part, one I shouldn’t have made.

  150. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @schnellandine

    Okay, mistaken. Therefore negligent.

    Her “mistake” was a reasonable one under the circumstance. And anyways, she would have been justified drawing her pistol because of the danger the suspect posed.

    Suppose he pulled a gun on her and starts firing rounds into her and the other officer?

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  151. Dnought says:
    @Alfa158

    Problem is…your supervisors expect you to make arrests. They know there is crap going on out there, and if you aren’t making arrests, your performance evaluations become very poor indeed.

  152. @Jack D

    But but but Doc Rivers and Greg Popovich say that black men are being “cancelled.”

  153. @Jack D

    Are any of these angels EVER anything other that POS’s? (Botham John was an exception but even in his case the cops found weed in his apartment. )

    What do you wish to imply by mentioning he had weed? You would find weed in the apartments of some of the most law-abiding and productive members of society.

  154. @reactionry

    2. He has lost fewer races than Harold Stassen.

    My first vote in Minnesota was cast for Stassen, in his last race.

    https://www.ourcampaigns.com/CandidateDetail.html?CandidateID=8199

    The next three elections for the House seat in that historically Irish district were contested by my old neighbor Prof. Ian Maitland of the Carlson School of Management. His Oxford accent was gentle and soothing, but didn’t play well with the voters.

  155. @Steve Sailer

    What’s “aggravated robbery” and why is it worse than robbery, which seems pretty bad in and of itself?

    “First and formost,” that is “absolutely certain” to be when, for a “brief moment,” an “anonymous stranger” in “close proximity” to a member of the “general public,” takes something by force, often a “basic necessity.”

    Sometimes criminals will “collaborate together,” and “completely surround” the victim.

    There is a “current trend” of taking “foreign imports” via carjacking.

    Often, though, “aggravated robbery” happens near an “ATM machine.”

    In other words, it is the “exact same” thing as robbery, only “more worse.”

    All seriousness aside, one can assume it means more time in the slammer, or an opportunity to force a suspect to plea bargain down to mere “robbery.” If the suspect is accused of saying something “racist” during the robbery, well then, one can suppose it becomes an “aggravated hate robbery.”

    (That’ll be $300 for excellently good legal consultation. Mail it back.)

  156. The word on the street (metaphorically speaking) now is that the cop was a negro woman.

  157. Dr. X says:
    @JMcG

    Glocks do have a safety, the blade in the trigger face that must be depressed before the pistol will fire. I’m not a fan, but millions are.

    Well, yes, of course, that is one of multiple “passive safeties” on modern striker-fired pistols. But I think the previous poster was referring to a manual safety lever that needs to be actively disengaged to shoot the pistol, like on a 1911.

  158. @allahu akbar

    Her hands look fair in her cop cam video.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  159. Cato says:

    Cops should all be recruited from the biggest and strongest kids who you remember as getting into fights after school. Guys like that will seldom be tempted to use deadly force — they prefer taking care of things with their fists. A woman, confronted with a dangerous hoodlum, really has no choice but to reach for a weapon. In this case, the wrong weapon.

  160. @Danindc

    Huh? She interfered with the black cop? Wtf are you talking about?

    The black cop was cuffing the suspect, who was standing with his hands behind his back and complying. Before the cuffs are on, she comes over and appears to be trying to check the suspect’s jacket pockets – a task that would have been better done after the suspect was cuffed. As she interferes, the suspect takes his chance to escape.

    She is incompetent in more ways than one. In fact she is a complete liability. If she had not been present, the other two officers would have handled the situation, the suspect would now be alive and in the slammer and there would be no news story.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Danindc
  161. CCZ says:
    @Ganderson

    “…guessing not.”

    Correct: “Council member on racism, changing face of Brooklyn Center,” February 13, 2019 (some excerpts below):

    Brooklyn Center City Council Member April Graves is looking to change the face and landscape of the city’s political system by working within it.

    Nearly 30 percent of the city’s residents are African American or are of African descent. Yet, Graves noted, until recently the council did not look like its residents.

    “When I first ran [in 2014], there was no one of color on the council or running. No women — especially single mothers like myself, which make up a fair amount of the population. It didn’t make sense in a city this diverse.”

    “We passed a resolution around racial economic equity.”

    “We’ve increased the diversity of our leadership. More people of color are on the staff.”

    “Also, immigration issues, particularly [as it concerns] the Liberian community. A lot of them are scared under DED and Temporary Protected Status. Both are about to expire.”

    “I always considered myself to be a community organizer and activist, not a politician. I still feel that way, though I’m an elected official. Especially for communities of color,….”

    “What powers, what controls do we have to switch this corrupt system that’s been in place for years that disproportionately, negatively impacts people of color? And as soon we get leadership of color, we want to see things change immediately.”

    “I do, too. But, we need to recognize that people of color in political positions are in a system that [remains] racist and was set up to keep us out. It’s not easy to automatically make changes.”

    “All types of approaches are needed. There are those who need to be calling out racism and discrimination, shutting down traffic.”

    https://spokesman-recorder.com/2019/02/13/council-member-on-racism-changing-face-of-brooklyn-center/

  162. @Ganderson

    Brooklyn Center is a first-ring suburb… Jesse Ventura used to be the mayor.

    Ventura was mayor of Brooklyn Park. Nearly identical demographics, except two-and-a-half times the size.

    Even the locals can’t keep the two Brooklyns straight!

    • Replies: @Ganderson
  163. @JMcG

    Re your reply on garbagemen, that’s strong stuff, and unexpected.

    On the Glock trigger safety, finally tackled the Glock action after years of owning them. It’s a gas to research, especially for mods. Anyway, in finally figuring it out and fully dismantling, it hit me that most of the ‘experts’ jawing on gun nut sites didn’t understand the Glock marketing on safeties (‘Safe Action’), while still parroting it.

    [MORE]

    You may know, to an extent I didn’t, that the Glock trigger ‘safety’ is highly misleadingly named, given conventional term use. It can’t be de-clouded by calling it an internal safety, the usual method, because it’s external. And it doesn’t at all fulfill the function of what has long been understood by ‘a safety’ (less ‘internal’).

    I gather you’d agree that Glock didn’t help anything by implying the trigger safety was more than it is, especially since their action is really nifty. But safe? Rarely carry any of my Glocks chambered. Too easy to fire, including while drawing. Seems to me that their Safe Action is mostly designed as a robust and interlinked preventer of drop fires, not NDs from twitchy trigger operators.

    My prior experience was with DA semis, at least on first pull. The Glocks still give me pause, though my favorites.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @JMcG
    , @Joe Stalin
  164. anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    As she interferes, the suspect takes his chance to escape.

    Blacks have destroyed so many White lives by resisting arrest.

  165. Anonymous[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    BCA identifies officer in Daunte Wright shooting

    Kim Potter: 5 Rapid Truths You Need to Know

    It was a good shoot. The suspect was attempting to flee and could have pulled a gun on the officers or injured someone with his car.

    Have authorities released the name of the black man who killed Ashli Babbit?

  166. black sea says:
    @PiltdownMan

    One of the most succinct explanations of effective policing, from a retired British cop who had worked some notorious areas of London back in his day:

    “We knew how to be nice to the nice people, and nasty to the nasty people.”

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  167. jon says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    Those were all completely ridiculous, victimless (i.e. non-) crimes, yet we’re supposed to think he had it coming.

    He “had it coming” for the same reason almost all of these BLM cases had it coming, he resisted arrest. He was out of his car, hands behind his back, about to be cuffed. If he made a better choice right then, he’d still be alive.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  168. @Jack D

    I agree about the female cops. At least this one didn’t react by exclaiming, “I am so fucked!” as Amber Guyger and the woman who wrecked the navy ship did. It’s all about *them*, don’t you know? Really, those two were a bit like the DC carjacker/murderer who complained that her phone was still in the car.

    You’re probably also right about Rizzo and the eggplant. And of course the driver’s record and warrants would give them cause for concern. But back to the first point.

    All these high-profile police killings in the Minneapolis area have been diversity hires from Yanez to Noor to this woman, except Chauvin. But was he even a killer? If so, was he following departmental procedure?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  169. Lurker says:
    @Paperback Writer

    “Oh stewardess, I speak moronic”

    • LOL: Lot
  170. @black sea

    “We knew how to be nice to the nice people, and nasty to the nasty people.”

    That’s pretty much it, and that’s usually what happens.

    There is a problem, though, when a cop has trouble making that distinction, or doesn’t care. If you look a certain way and fit a profile in his simple mind, then you’d better be extra polite and try your best to follow his orders. This from long-haired experience in the wrong part of Denver one night.

    Related: People are full of shit when they claim cops are worse based on race. It’s not race, except in the sense that they know the odds are much higher that you are a bad dude if you are of certain ones. Trust me, you don’t have to be of any particular race for them to treat you like shit.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  171. @Anon

    Her “mistake” was a reasonable one under the circumstance.

    Pulling a gun when a Taser’s intended is about the biggest, most unreasonable screwup anyone could make, because the subsequent trigger pull is based on woefully incorrect premises. The entire chain of command, including the mayor, would have resigned over it had they adequate honor. BTW, I’m not speaking hyperbolically. Fully serious.

    And anyways, she would have been justified drawing her pistol because of the danger the suspect posed.

    And? Classic example of the fallacy of irrelevant conclusion. She’s not being lambasted by me for ‘drawing her pistol’.

    Suppose he pulled a gun on her and starts firing rounds into her and the other officer?

    First, that isn’t a question. (Appears to be an epidemic of unnecessary ‘?’s at this site.)

    Given your supposition, I assume you intend to argue the thing from their point of view. My PoV is I don’t much care in isolation what harm befalls costumed marauders. However, from the popular dogma PoV, of course she should drill the detainee upon the first clear sign of his material intent to seriously harm. Not what happened, and it appears you know that.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Reg Cæsar
  172. anon[232] • Disclaimer says:
    @schnellandine

    If the existing Glock trigger system is not to your liking, you can try the “New York” trigger.
    Reviewed here. Some find it feels a lot like a DA revolver.

    https://gundigest.com/gun-reviews/range-report-glock-new-york-trigger

    • Thanks: schnellandine
    • Replies: @schnellandine
  173. @Lurker

    Well, yes. You win.

    • Thanks: Lurker
  174. JMcG says:
    @schnellandine

    I don’t own a Glock, though I’ve fired many of them. I’m uncomfortable carrying any semi-auto that doesn’t have a thumb operated safety. Those that do, I would carry with a chambered round. It’s a subject that requires careful consideration, for sure.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  175. @James J O'Meara

    You tend to see Jews — excuse me, “Judaics” — everywhere, just like Birchers used to see Communists behind every tree, in every book, every public act (e.g., fluoridation). For a smart, erudite guy like you, it’s a fine line between “singleness of purpose” and “monomania.”

    In mitigation, however, anyone who can borrow an essay title from “Search and Destroy,” and make it work, is o.k. in my book. Yasher koach.

  176. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says:
    @notsaying

    Afraid? No one becomes a cop who is afraid of going into action against the bad guys. That’s not the way reality works. That’s like being a surgeon who is afraid of performing surgery, or an astronaut who is afraid of going into outer space.

    Cops really do have a different mentality than ordinary people. They are very confident of their ability to handle anything, including criminal black guys.

    The cop who shot the black guy dead was a 25 year veteran of the force. Which is, unluckily for her, going to make her excuse of grabbing the wrong weapon not fly at all with a jury.

  177. @Almost Missouri

    You’re right. What was she thinking?

  178. @Paperback Writer

    They liked the Godfather movies, but didn’t think “Michael” or “Sonny” sounded sufficiently Guido-ish? (Obviously, “Fredo” is a non-starter.)

    That still doesn’t solve the mystery of how they ever heard of Dante (the writer) in the first place. Back to the drawing board.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  179. @Anon

    I never thought the lawless, Wild West would come back–and in America’s big cities, too.

    I never thought anyone would be stupid enough to embrace communism again either, but the b*tch is back with a vengeance.

    Those that never lived through the last cycle and weren’t inculcated with how awful it was and what mistakes they were will embrace it again.

    Lord forgive us.

  180. FPD72 says:
    @Dr. X

    I always laugh bitterly and sardonically when I hear lefties say “Only the police and military should be allowed to have guns because they have the proper training.”

    I have read that in Texas, those who possess a License to Carry (which replaced the old Concealed Handgun License) have a lower crime rate than police. However, I can’t find a citation to that effect. What I could find is that LTC holders are convicted of crimes at a rate of 1/15th the rate of non-LTC holders.

  181. @Steve Sailer

    These days many feminists have been trained in the Elizabeth Theranos fake-deep voice training, thinking it will make them sound more authoritative. It doesn’t, it just makes them sound robotoic and weird and silly.

    But its also hard on their vocal chords (try yourself talking an octave lower all day, it friggin hurts), so I have no idea how they would yell in such a voice, I assume they just drop the charade and shriek in a typical female tone (which actually more effective at getting attention and making people help).

    Instead of going fake mannish, they should take a page out of Margaret Thatcher’s book, who managed to sound in control and powerful without falling into either feminist-henpecking-nagging tone or from sounding like a woman doing a bad impression of a man. Her vocal training montage in The Iron Lady was great.

  182. Dnought says:
    @Paperback Writer

    He was a Minnesota guy right? Maybe Mom and Dad were Vikings fans…..

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Daunte_Culpepper

    Wright would be about the right age to be named after him.

    Doesn’t explain why Daunte Culpepper was given a bastardized version of the name of a 14th Century Italian writer though…..

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @David
  183. Anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben tillman

    All these high-profile police killings in the Minneapolis area have been diversity hires from Yanez to Noor to this woman

    The MEN of UNZ would rather disparage a White women and see her life destroyed than put responsibility on the black who instigated the confrontation.

    There are plenty of White male officers who, when confronted with uncooperative suspects, take action in good faith that laypersons judge to be “mistakes.” Maybe police work is a difficult job and we should give policr some leeway in judgment so long as they appear to be acting in good faith?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @anon42342
  184. Anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    There is a problem, though, when a cop has trouble making that distinction, or doesn’t care. If you look a certain way and fit a profile in his simple mind, then you’d better be extra polite and try your best to follow his orders.

    All minds, including—or even especially—the smart ones (when the aren’t under brainwashing coercion), are pattern recognition machines. That is, they “profile.” Maybe citizens should be more responsible for not fitting certain patterns and for being polite and following orders. Is that asking too much? Police officers put their lives on the line every day. What is your responsibility?

  185. jon says:
    @James N. Kennett

    Brian Peters, head of the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association, said Potter was working Sunday as a field training officer, training a new officer.

    I guess that explains why the black cop was struggling to get the handcuffs on, and why she walked up and reached her hands in while he was still not handcuffed.

    The officers then learned Wright, who has a one-year-old son, had an outstanding warrant against him.

    Why is that information in this sentence? Just wanted everyone to know that there is a baby without a father before they let us know that the father might have been a piece of shit, I guess.

    • Replies: @jon
  186. jon says:
    @jon

    Brian Peters, head of the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association, said Potter was working Sunday as a field training officer, training a new officer.

    So that black cop was probably a post-Floyd diversity hire – that worked out well.

    • Replies: @Alden
  187. Dogberry says:

    The taser is on her left side.

  188. vhrm says:
    @Dr. X

    They carry on the weak side but idk if they set it up for strong hand cross-body draw or for weak hand deployment.
    (https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explainer-officer-gun-taser-77031088 )

    It’s no doubt a fuck up, but it’s something that’s happened several times before so it’s definitely something that can happen without any “mens rea“.

    In California the famous case like this is the 2009 case where a BART cop shot a dude who was on the ground at his feet. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Oscar_Grant#Taser_confusion ) (though as wiki points out he was carrying his taser for strong hand draw)

    I wouldn’t be surprised or dismayed if the current case ends up with tasers being redesigned over the next several years to be less gun like. Since they don’t have significant recoil maybe have a thumb trigger like Star Trek phasers or pepper spray.

  189. @Anon

    It looked to me like the male black cop who first tried to cuff the guy couldn’t get it done. Was there something wrong with the handcuffs? Or did he screw something up?

    Then lady cop comes and reaches in the perp’s pocket for some reason. Then the black cop steps back and that gives the perp the opening to try to run. Lady cop grabs gun instead of taser. Whoops. Shit happens.

    The cops were at worst negligent in response to the perp’s deliberate attempt to illegally flee due to his outstanding warrants. Legally speaking, I call it as offsetting penalties. Unfortunately, they don’t get to replay the down. But that’s the chance you take when you resist arrest and run from the cops.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  190. Ed says:
    @Goingblankagain

    Exactly. In this regard maybe borrowing from the Islamic world would be wise: female officers deal with women and family issues. Leave the curtailing of male violence to men.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  191. Rosie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Judging by the way she needlessly interfered with the black cop who already had the situation under control, thereby giving the suspect a chance to escape, she’s a woman.

    Is this supposed to be a joke?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  192. Polistra says:

    OT, but apparently Tucker Carlson was on fire last night.
    He’s definitely not backing down–he’s doubling down.

    You wonder if people even debate questions like this in countries that don’t hate themselves, like Japan or South Korea or Israel.

    Go to the Anti-Defamation League’s (ADL) website sometime if you’d like a glimpse of what an unvarnished conversation about a country’s national interest might look like.

    [Tucker then quotes exactly what was mentioned by Steve a few days ago]

    “It is unrealistic and unacceptable,” the ADL continues, “to expect the State of Israel to voluntarily subvert its own sovereign existence and nationalist identity and become a vulnerable minority within what was once its own territory.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-immigration-demographic-change-democrats-elections

    For a prominent, major-media figure–even at Fox–Tucker is going way out on a limb.
    It’s impressive, and even amazing. Where will this lead?

  193. @Dnought

    Spelling the name “Daunte” tells people who have never heard anyone mention Dante know how to pronounce the name.

    It’s one of the more pro-social ghetto names. Blacks have kind of colonized names beginning with D in recent decades, but this one is easy to spell and especially easy to pronounce and alludes to a great man of the past.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  194. @PiltdownMan

    Concerning the two English lady police officers:

    “Oh Manchester, so much to answer for…”

  195. Rosie says:
    @Wade Hampton

    But her incompetence is just another argument for women’s role being strictly limited to “Kinder, Kueche, Kirche”. Nicht Polizei.

    This is absurd. In order for this to be another argument for oppressing women, you would previously have had to have articulated at least one good one.

    Of course, the concerns about women’s physical inability to subdue male suspects are very well-taken, but then the vast majority of paid employment has nothing to do with subduing male suspects, does it?

    I’ll even allow that a previous commenter is correct that women are more prone to panic, and, perhaps, therefore should be categorically excluded from this type of work. Of course, we should always be careful what we wish for.

    • Replies: @bomag
  196. Rosie says:
    @Ed

    Exactly. In this regard maybe borrowing from the Islamic world would be wise: female officers deal with women and family issues. Leave the curtailing of male violence to men.

    Your measured response is most welcome. It’s a breath of fresh air compared to the hysterical reactionaries on this site who apparently believe that the existence of an arguably incompetent female police officer is cause to run women out of the workforce and deny us the right to earn a living.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @El Dato
    , @Mike Tre
  197. Alden says:

    A few facts we’ll never see in the media.

    1 The car was hijacked just that morning Because it involves an assault on the driver, hijacking’s a more serious crime than theft.

    2 Duante had a warrant.

    3 Duante had a loaded gun.

    I wonder what race the officer is. Non White affirmative action women are over represented in government jobs including police. All the articles state she’s a woman. But no mention of her race. Hmmmm
    We all know what that means.

    • LOL: schnellandine
  198. El Dato says:

    Adrenaline, it’s a helluva drug.

    The solution:

    “Please get out of that car. Friendly Black Citizen. Friendly Black Citizen.”

    Why are we constantly trying to arrest black men who are merely found to be carrying an illegal handgun? What harm has a black man packing an undocumented pistol ever caused anybody? Why are cops being distracted from the real murder menace: white men with scary-looking rifles?

    Plus so-called “ghost guns” which must be a major, major thing, whatever they are. Maybe they are the guns Holder released by the ton into Mexico like it’s Fallujah?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

  199. Mr. Anon says:
    @Rosie

    It’s a breath of fresh air compared to the hysterical reactionaries on this site who apparently believe that the existence of an arguably incompetent female police officer is cause to run women out of the workforce and deny us the right to earn a living.

    Nobody here is saying that. You’re delusional.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  200. Alden says:
    @jon

    Somali affirmative action Minneapolis Officer Noor, who shot Justin Dimond who called 911 WAS the training officer. At least he didn’t shoot the cadet he was training.

  201. El Dato says:
    @Rosie

    Leona knows it’s tough out there:

  202. Mr. Anon says:

    From the cop-cam video, it seemed like the one male officer (the black one) who was cuffing the guy had things under control, until the female officer got involved and they lost control of the suspect and the situation. What was she doing?

  203. Anon[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @schnellandine

    of course she should drill the detainee upon the first clear sign of his material intent to seriously harm. Not what happened, and it appears you know that.

    That’s exactly what happened. His resisting arrest, his warrant for illegal possession of a firearm, his diving into his car, was enough to show he presented serious danger to others.

    Either a drawn gun or a drawn taser would have been appropriate. If anything, given the danger he posed, the taser was insufficient.

    Pulling a gun when a Taser’s intended is about the biggest, most unreasonable screwup anyone could make, because the subsequent trigger pull is based on woefully incorrect premises.

    The grounds that justify a taser are not mutually exclusive with the grounds that justify a gun. The “premises” overlap.

  204. @Anonymous

    I do agree with you.

    What I am saying is, long ago I experienced police being very rude and aggressive when I was being polite and following their directions. That was when I had long hair and happened to be in a part of a city where, I guess, there was a lot of crime.

    I totally agree that politeness and respect are called for. Uh, you know, that’s how I have always acted, and most cops have been perfectly polite and professional in return.

    No one has a responsibility to look a certain way, though. Profiling is first based on looks. Yes, I know pattern recognition is part of intelligence, but should I have cut my hair so as not to fit a pattern? (I eventually did anyway, and things changed, sort of like how I got more dates when I shaved off my beard during another time.)

    Look, it’s no big deal, and I didn’t suffer, probably because I have the intelligence and emotional control typical of a white person.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  205. Mr. Anon says:
    @Polistra

    For a prominent, major-media figure–even at Fox–Tucker is going way out on a limb.
    It’s impressive, and even amazing. Where will this lead?

    I saw his show last night too, and I agree: Wow! The demographics-is-destiny argument, even when denuded of any racial implications, is pretty out-there for TV. First time a lot of that has ever been said in the MSM, as far as I know.

    He’s stepping into Glenn Beck territory, although Carlson is smarter and more stable than Beck is, so maybe he can navigate it without blowing up his prime-time gig.

  206. Alden says:

    The MEN OF UNZ are dam fool idiot assholes jumping in this cop because she’s a woman who killed a. criminal. Darryl Wilson George Zimmerman Derek Chauvin the Baltimore cops who bounced a black man to death in back of the police van, the ones who killed the car thief kidnapper in Kenosha WI Daniel Shaver, Dylan Noble Errol Chang beat up Rodney King are all men.

    One woman cop kills a black criminal with warrants out driving a stolen car and the women less childless repressed gay old codgers rant that women shouldn’t be cops.

    I estimate the ratio over the last 10 years is 20 men cops to 1 women cops killed suspects.

    The MEN OF UNZ what a crew of losers.

    • LOL: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Anonymous
    , @Art Deco
    , @Sean
  207. Anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    Judging by the way she needlessly interfered with the black cop who already had the situation under control, thereby giving the suspect a chance to escape, she’s a woman.

    Is this supposed to be a joke?

    Right. The black officer didn’t seem to know how to put on handcuffs. Maybe he was a trainee. I feel sorry for him. But everyone here wants to blame the White officer for what was a justifiable shoot.

  208. @Anonymous

    The MEN of UNZ would rather disparage a White women and see her life destroyed than put responsibility on the black who instigated the confrontation.

    Cops don’t defend us, I don’t defend them. And speaking of lives destroyed, that’s what the boneheaded ass was paid for that day—destroying a life. Save the flowery emotion-strings. Cops are officially our enemy now, because they’re the front line of the emerging selective-enforcement ‘white supremacy’ scam, including ‘CoViD’ tyranny/hysteria.

    Maybe police work is a difficult job and we should give policr some leeway in judgment so long as they appear to be acting in good faith?

    No.

    Police officers put their lives on the line every day.

    Statistically, not even close to my occupation. Have any worshipful stunt language for me or the ~10 major occupations which routinely blow away your sainted coppers in the category of fatality rate?

    Of course not. You probably didn’t even know.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  209. @Zoos

    Seems like people _really_ need something to believe in…

    • Replies: @Zoos
  210. @Paperback Writer

    QB Daunte Culpepper of Minnesota Vikings. An All-pro for a few years.

  211. El Dato says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    He was pulled over for .. “expired tags”. A $117 fine. Once again we see that cop(s!) are glorified TAX COLLECTORS; for the schools.

    There was a “warrant” (failure to appear). He never received notice.

    He had been charged with a “gross misdemeanor” (carrying without a PERMIT).

    He’d been previously accused of wrongdoing (selling pot).

    I’m sorry Dave. Deep causal analysis reveals that none of the above caused “the accident”.

    But what we really want to know is whether the Counter-Looting is justified?

    • Replies: @CCZ
  212. Pericles says:
    @Donald A Thomson

    Noor wasn’t stable enough to be a police officer. He should have been fired, not prosecuted for murder. I’m Australian but that conviction was a miscarriage of justice.

    Noor, without warning, while sitting in the squad car, shot and killed the woman who came to report after calling in a crime. But let’s not be too hasty with the firings yet. Maybe, just maybe, he should instead have been put on admin leave with backpay and full reinstatement after a suitable period had passed. Let’s make it a month, or at least a week, perhaps with mandatory counseling after experiencing such a traumatic event. You’re so hard hearted, Don.

    PS. The woman killed was Australian too, if memory serves. C’est la vie.

  213. Pericles says:
    @jon

    He just wanted to be free, maaan.

    • Replies: @new Stalin
  214. black sea says:
    @Cortes

    I realize I’m jumping back a few topics on this site, but it turns out that rapper DMX was a big fan of the TV series “The Golden Girls.” I just keep liking this guy more and more. I guess he saw it as a sort of DeVine Comedy.

  215. Women are weak. In my town even the tiniest traffic infractions resulting in a stop by a lady cop brings at least two cars manned by, well, men. It’s the perfect example. If we were focused on our survival, such nonsense would render our current situation under feminist tyranny laughable, worthy only of scornful mockery. We used to ignore white feminist fat asses. Hence, our decline. Never shoulda let em outta the kitchen. Barefoot or not.

  216. @Mike Tre

    Social workers have less authority and generally aren’t that useful. They don’t have the presence and mentality needed to adequately talk even non-dangerous people down and negotiate.

    While female cops aren’t the fittest/smartest women around (fitness is correlated with class way more in women than in men; it’s why the military has a hard time with recruiting females- the women out there who can meet standards have UMC jobs and don’t need the military for a living) they still command more respect than pale, frumpy and shrill social workers, due to the uniform, training experiences, and other psychological factors.

    You definitely need female cops for dealing with female suspects/victims and certain domestic issues, this is recognized even in places like Pakistan or Iran.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  217. Rosie says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Nobody here is saying that. You’re delusional.

    See Comment #13.

    You need to pay more attention to what you’re reading. Since it’s not your rights being attacked, you don’t notice.

    • Replies: @kihowi
    , @Mr. Anon
  218. @schnellandine

    I’m not a huge cop fan but realistically they are at least more useful to the average American than members of our military. For one, they cost less. Some cops bumble around and mess up (and in small towns they can even be a menace out of boredom with their speed traps and bullying attitudes) but I imagine things would get worse with fewer of them around. Urban cops in particular. They are so laidback where I live you can drive drunk, stoned, or without a tag as long as you aren’t actively endangering anyone (not recommended, just saying). They simply have bigger issues to deal with. One watched me roll through a neighborhood stop sign when I was running late the other day and did nothing.

    On the other hand, I imagine things would get better worldwide with fewer US service members around in need of things to do to justify the gravy train. Yet never such hate directed at them, although like cops most of them are not at risk of serious danger and sit around often.

    Unrelated but I also think it’s weird that the most egregious cop mishaps have happened in Minnesota. Another example of something in the water there.

  219. Rosie says:
    @Alden

    The MEN OF UNZ are dam fool idiot assholes jumping in this cop because she’s a woman who killed a. criminal. Darryl Wilson George Zimmerman Derek Chauvin the Baltimore cops who bounced a black man to death in back of the police van, the ones who killed the car thief kidnapper in Kenosha WI Daniel Shaver, Dylan Noble Errol Chang beat up Rodney King are all men.

    One woman cop kills a black criminal with warrants out driving a stolen car and the women less childless repressed gay old codgers rant that women shouldn’t be cops.

    It’s remarkable how they pounce, isn’t it?

    It almost seems like they have a double standard. With women, only perfection will suffice.

    • LOL: HammerJack
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Paperback Writer
  220. @Cortes

    Remember, alfa158’s original premise was that a cop — to run out the clock on his shift and make sure he got home alive, in one piece and with no controversy surrounding his conduct that day — would interview witnesses with mind-numbing thoroughness and write reports at the level of detail of an Umberto Eco novel.

    Ergo, The Names of the Ho’s and F**k You, Pandemic! (for Foucault’s Pendulum).

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @Paperback Writer
  221. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    The MEN OF UNZ should start their own site wehatewhitewomenbecausewenevergotlaidinourlives .com

    When I was young the sure tell if a man was gay was his disdainful attitude and nasty remarks about women. Very similar to the comments the MEN OF UNZ make about women.

    The MEN OF UNZ just danced for joy when a Muslim immigrant terrorist bombed a concert in Manchester UK and murdered 22 concert goers mostly young British girls. The White women hating MEN OF UNZ rejoiced when White woman Tessa Majors was murdered by 3 black 8 th graders. Who were hidden by their families and only turned in by a store owner whose store the thugs often raided.

    The MEN OF UNZ again rejoiced when short thin mid fifties Deborah Staggs was attacked and had 26 bones broken by a young black man 8 inches taller and 80 pounds bigger than Deborah.
    The MEN OF UNZ defend Jeffrey Epstein extortionist blackmailer crooked financier embezzler probably Israeli spy because he did what the MEN OF UNZ really want to do, control and use a harem of 11-17 year old girls for sex and sadistic pleasure.

    Some of the gay MEN OF UNZ are vociferously d defending former less than mediocre NFL player Adams who killed 6 Whites.

  222. @HammerJack

    The folk who are Woke do not jest:
    “No Black Shall be Under Arrest.”
    With the Swartes unhinged
    And the Blankes infringed,
    The Sun’s goin’ down in the West.

  223. Zoos says:
    @JimSpriggs

    Seems like people _really_ need something to believe in…

    I strongly suspect there is something I would call a “Cult Gene.”

    It’s expressed with more force in some, than in others. The religion doesn’t matter, in and of itself. Maybe it’s a lateral gene to the one that creates the part of our brains to react deeply to the wonders of the world. Back in the day, when there were far less people on the planet, the “cult gene” might have somehow been a positive, useful gene expression that enhanced chances of community survival.

    Maybe it’s part of the same gene expression, but whether you cry about the death of Christ, your ancestors alleged mistreatment of Africans, or that you deeply disappointed Tom Cruise, it’s buried in your brain, working 24/7, and you must atone for your wretchedness by making an honest sacrifice to the father, and bear the burden he gives you, till the end of your days.

  224. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thank again for the pictures Reg. 52, is that the waist measurement? Only about 10 inches shorter than I am tall. Yikes!

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  225. AndrewR says:
    @Jack D

    Lmao he had weed therefore the shooting was somewhat justified? God you are awful.

    • Replies: @Bill
  226. @HammerJack

    The folk who are woke do not jest:
    “No Black Shall be Under Arrest.”
    With the Blankes infringed
    And the Swartes unhinged,
    The Sun’s going down in the West.

    • Thanks: black sea
  227. CCZ says:

    OT, but “thematically” related. “Youths” in Northern Ireland are acting melanin enriched, but the media is calling the violence “riots” and not “peaceful protests.” And “US President Joe Biden has called for calm as violence continues on the streets of Belfast.” As they say, “That’s rich”!!

  228. anon42342 says:
    @Anonymous

    I think you’re being unfair here, I think the Men of Unz are behaving fine here (as expected), but I agree that in general I don’t like seeing people being mocking or dismissive of white women. The war on whites definitely extends to the women, many of whom have no idea how much they’re hated. Hating women of your own race is not good morality.

    • Agree: El Dato, Ben tillman
  229. @Richard of Melbourne

    Noor didn’t accidentally kill Damond. It was murder. Naturally the SJWs are outraged he was convicted. He’ll probably end up being commemorated like Emmett Till.

  230. AndrewR says:
    @Rosie

    You two should exchange contact info so you can rant about how much you hate men instead of filling up the comment sections with your racist feminism.

    • LOL: black sea
    • Replies: @Rosie
  231. AndrewR says:
    @Alden

    Why don’t you stay on a feminist blog where your hatred of men is shared by all? Yes they won’t like your super-low-IQ racist takes, but no one here but Rosie appreciates your vicious misandric rants.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Alden
  232. @Polistra

    What a magnificent Lion, bold, passionate, articulate and rigourous, the Overton Window regarding demographic replacement the most pressing crisis has been shattered, it’s up to the Republican politicians to articulate this probably greatest ever public policy speech on TV into policy. WOW. Well roared Lion.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @HammerJack
  233. @anon

    My favourite …

    “He had been issued the gun 2 years ago, never taken it out of the leather,
    never fired it (all the officers were using the same gun to qualify so they´d have to clean only one), had no idea how to take it down (A Walther PP! You literally could train a chimp to do it in under 5 seconds) and the cartridges were dark green.”

    My prescription would be minimum 2000 rds initial training and 50 full-caliber high-stress
    per week (and dry/sub-caliber whenever possible) if you intend to carry it in harm´s way. What PD is going to put up with that?
    The Glock is as close to idiot-proof as it gets and very light for its performance –
    all major selling points.

    • Replies: @anon
  234. @Buffalo Joe

    While its plausible that a fuller investigation will support your claim of “bad piece of police work” (the female officer does seem to have miscalculated), you’re making a false comparison with routine stops that you’ve experienced in your own life. Unless you can testify that there was a warrant out for your arrest at the time of the stops. This piece of trash was not shot over a sticker. He ended up being shot because he was already wanted for arrest and when he realized that the police had identified him he started to put up a fight. There is absolutely no “white privilege” in the USA which allows a white person to get away with that kind of behavior more than a black punk can. It’s just that whites are statistically less likely to have a criminal record which triggers an incident like this after they’ve been stopped by police.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Buffalo Joe
  235. @JimDandy

    Yet.

    I’ve seen this exact argument used to excuse poor performance by female doctors, so expect to see it for policewomen soon.

  236. @Alden

    52, is that the waist measurement? Only about 10 inches shorter than I am tall. Yikes!

    52 is the number of Depends in the case, not the size. The size is large, denoted with an ‘L’ on the box.

  237. @Wilkey

    “Hard to square those beliefs with the police shootings that have been the source of so much contention”

    How many people have retconned their memories of all of these to having been committed by a white man? Although I don’t think Damond is remembered at all.

  238. Anon[576] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    From the New York Times:

    The manual also says that “reasonable efforts should be made to target lower center mass and avoid the head, neck, chest and groin” if an officer is using a Taser.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/13/us/daunte-wright-taser-gun.html

    So, avoid:

    1. Upper mass

    2. Peripheral mass, i.e. non-center mass

    3. Head

    4. Neck

    5. Chest

    6. Groin

    So what’s left to target the Taser on (which seems hard to sharpshoot with to begin with)?

    1. Left leg, or is this not center mass?

    2. Right leg, ditto.

    3. Belly, as long as you avoid chest and groin?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Cortes
    , @Reg Cæsar
  239. So this maybe belongs in the World War Hair series but I was amused to see that the mostly peaceful protests in Minnesota included both a Hair and Wigs place, and, of course Nike.

    Theme of ’21: Satire is Dead.

  240. @unit472

    I once heard a rottweiler barking in an underground concourse, thus giving it added depth and echo. It’s probably still the most chilling sound I’ve ever heard.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  241. @Buck Ransom

    You should see Ted Baxter when he’s angry.

  242. El Dato says:
    @Steve Sailer

    That’s all pretty daunting.

    Also, expect name decolonization in showbiz:

    It’s fine for black celebs to ‘reclaim’ their real names, but let’s not assume all anglicisation is discrimination

    A Hollywood star has stated she wants the Zulu spelling of her name used from now on. That’s fair enough, but anglicisation of names is generally not forced on anyone and suggestions it objectifies people are misplaced.

    Everyone has a right to their chosen name. The actress formerly known as Thandie Newton attracted a lot of attention recently, when she announced she was changing hers.

    At the start of her career, a director omitted a ‘w’ in the credits of her first movie, so Thandiwe became Thandie and it stuck.

    Now, though, she is reverting to Thandiwe, although curiously that is actually her middle name. Her first name is Melanie, and it’s unclear why she chose not to use that in her professional life.

    On the decision to ‘reclaim her name’, Newton said, “The thing I’m most grateful for in our business right now is being in the company of others who truly see me. [?] And to not be complicit in the objectification of black people as ‘others’, which is what happens when you’re the only one.” [??]

    Thank God, Unicode was standardized in the 90s, so we can encode everything properly.

    Also, the Good Ship Thandiwe IV being pursued by the Trumpian Avenger:

  243. @Polistra

  244. kihowi says:
    @Rosie

    Nobody is “attacking your rights”, Rosie. People are voicing opinions. Literally nothing is being done to you.

    You’re providing a good illustration of why women don’t belong in the police force. Not taking things personally is extremely important, let alone dramatically exaggerating every perceived insult so you can play the victim. A female police officer might conclude that something a suspect says is actually “attacking her rights” and act accordingly.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  245. bomag says:
    @Rosie

    …but then the vast majority of paid employment has nothing to do with subduing male suspects, does it?

    I suppose not.

    But having life as a worker unit trump motherhood does not look to have served us particularly well.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  246. @Alden

    I used to know a very nice social worker who was driven to mental breakdown by the things that happened to the (nearly all white British) kids who were her caseload. She was still functioning after a fashion, but wasn’t a happy bunny at all, burned out by her late 30s. I got a slight vibe from her that all men were implicated in the terrible things she’d encountered.

    I never see any links to these alleged praises/justifications of bombers, rapists etc.

    “The best way to sustain an argument is never to submit any evidence in its defence”.

    • Replies: @Alden
  247. Dan Hayes says:
    @Buck Ransom

    Now hard to believe but pre-World War II Minneapolis was a KKK stronghold!

    • Replies: @CCZ
  248. Had the suspect been allowed to drive off and then committed another crime,
    who would the media blame?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  249. @Gary in Gramercy

    I think you’re onto something.

    Re: the Daunte Culpepper suggestion of other commenters, well, obviously Daunte the Dead was named after him. But how did Culpepper’s baby momma (yes, I checked: she was single when he was born, and serving time in the joint for armed robbery) come to name him this?

    I can’t say exactly, but somehow “Dante” found its way into the black American female consciousness. Recall that NYC’s idiot mayor named his kid “Dante.” Being half-Italian, and a middle class white man, at least Wilhelm-de Blasio knows how to spell the name. It indicates to me that for whatever reason, Dante became a something among black women.

    Now, how, exactly, I dunno, but I think the Italian admiration is a genuine thing among them, and yes, it peaked as a result of The Godfather. Which is ironic. Let’s all recall the scene where the heads of the families get together and coldly discuss selling heroin to blacks. “What does it matter? They’re animals,” says one godfather.

    (Compare and contrast that with the hatred all the frantic Jewish liberalism has brought on… but I digress.)

    Some black woman somewhere started the trend, and it spread. This is something I’ve noticed about black women: when one does it, they all do. False lashes, nails, wearing fluffy slippers on the street, weird variant pronunciations of certain words–you name it, when one does it, they ALL do.

    So, some black woman named her son Dante. Boom! The addition of the “u” came about naturally, as Steve Sailer suggests, for phonetic reasons. But it had nothing to do with the dude who wrote The Divine Comedy, although this has comedic aspects. I’m laughing so hard I’m crying.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @ben tillman
  250. notsaying says:

    I was looking up something about Daunte Wright and this came up. I didn’t bring up the whole article because I have used up my Washington Post free articles.

    “Daunte Wright, who had a two-year-old son, dropped out of high school about two years ago because of a learning disability, his father said. Since then, he worked in retail and fast-food …”

    This made me want to scream in frustration. If you have a learning disability that is all the more reason to stay in school, not a reason to drop out. What is happening to common sense in America?

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @adfggg
  251. @Jack D

    Daunte the Dead doesn’t look like a Gentle Giant to me; he appears to have been more of the loping, lean type of middleweight, or maybe even a welterweight. These guys, with their long arms and lightning reflexes, can really pack a punch.

    Yes, Daunte the Dead was a low-IQ POS, but what’s Jonathan Greenblatt’s excuse? Why is the ADL openly siding with Black Lives Matter? This is a horrible misstep. I can say for a fact that the overwhelming majority of Jews I know loathe BLM. As usual, most of them are too scared to say so, but they do.

    No sooner was Daunte the Dead dead, than Jonathan Greenblatt tweeted this:

    • Replies: @Ganderson
  252. @Jack D

    Botham John was an exception but even in his case the cops found weed in his apartment

    1) His last name was Jean.

    2) The poor guy was literally sitting in his apartment minding his own business. Don’t be an asshole by implying he did anything wrong.

    • Agree: El Dato
  253. Ganderson says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’ll be damned. I always thought Mr. Janos had been Mayor of Brooklyn Center. Old age, memory slipping. When I was manager of a pizza parlor in Brooklyn Park (early 80s) the Brooklyns were 100% white.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  254. @Buzz Mohawk

    What police require in my experience is for you to be not merely polite and to demonstrate compliance, but meekness and submissiveness.

    I have no problems with this because I realize it’s a game. I am neither meek nor submissive, I just act that way to avoid difficulties in certain situations, such as with authority figures like cops.

    Blacks have a huge problem with this because, like children, they are always challenging authority. They have no real authority over anyone, least of all themselves. They have tremendous influence over the spineless whites who run our society, but that’s not true authority. If whites with balls ever took over, their power would be gone.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Sean
  255. Sean says:
    @Alden

    Due to mass entertainment, people have unrealistic expectations of the police; it’s a secure safe (>10X less chance of being killed than than forestry and fishing) well paid job with a great pension, not the Airborne Rangers. Women can be good cops but they make terrible combat solders. It is not fair on women to involve them in high risk situations and expect them to perform with masculine confidence, which is objectively ift-times a species of foolhardiness. Cop lady did the feminine physical equivalent of mansplaining, and then in the dangerous situation created, she lacked the confidence in her ability against a lightening fast young black male, and rationally took the decision to shoot him dead just to be on the safe side. Cognitive dissonance protestations (Taser! Taser!) to the contrary. There is no doubt in my mind that is what happened, though perhaps unconsciously. Will she be found guilty of murder as Amber Guyger was for a genuine mistake? Of course not. Watching this will do policewomen a great deal of good inasmuch as it will help them know their limitations.

    The MEN OF UNZ defend Jeffrey Epstein extortionist blackmailer crooked financier embezzler probably Israeli spy because he did what the MEN OF UNZ really want to do, control and use a harem of 11-17 year old girls for sex and sadistic pleasure

    You are being self-contradictory Alden. Jeffery Epstein undoubtedly did have a sexual orientation towards underage girls, and became a criminal when took steps to gratify his interest, which rather suggests it was not a means to the end of blackmailing others. If there was blackmail, Maxwell would would not have been left alive to talk about it, especially as she didn’t even leave the country–even though could not have been extradited from France–during the several months after Epstein’s death, making it inevitable she’d be put on trial. It was just Epstein, if there was anyone else behind him in a blackmail racket they would not have taken the chance of her flipping.

    You cannot assert the existence of high level conspricy when they are leaving witnesses not only alive, but facing very long sentences. Scarpa was BTW the Mafia hit guy the FBI used against the KKK.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Jiminy
  256. Cortes says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    For avoidance of doubt, I resisted putting “F** you, Pendejo” for ambiguity – best not to make enemies per incuriam.

    And the “accidental” switch from Taser to firearm is Eco-friendly enough, really, Daunte’s very own “Experience in Translation.”

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  257. @Paperback Writer

    There are worse black names than Daunte.

    Blacks like having black only first names, so ones that can be spelled and pronounced are a reasonable compromise.

  258. @Kenn Gividen

    If you flee arrest in your car, the cops are supposed to chase you, right?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Buffalo Joe
    , @AceDeuce
  259. adfggg says:
    @Alfa158

    I want that job! I owe La Queefa NOTHING, and I care about her children as much as she — not at all.

    Officer Chauvin was called to the scene of a black stealing from an Arab, and found the black dying from an OD. I’d have smiled while watching the aspiring rapper expire.

    • Agree: Alden
  260. El Dato says:
    @Anon

    These instructions exist only so that, if someone complains later, the superior in charge can point to the manual and say …. “AH-HA! You didn’t follow the rules”.

    Tasers alone already exist (since the mid-00s IIRC) because people absorbed too many bullets for reasons of sudden movements.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  261. adfggg says:
    @notsaying

    The best way to solve a problem is to keep beating your head against a wall.

    The widespread belief, or false hope, that education solves everything, including for those immune to its effects, is one of the great social ills of our nation. The dim are better off getting what work can still be done with a strong back and a weak mind, or a weak pulse and a fogged mirror, while they can.

  262. @Ray Caruso

    There are only two ways to prevent the deaths of young negroes at the hands of law enforcement.

    There is, actualy a third; If their aim was better, they could improve the rate at which they kill each other.

    • Thanks: Jim Bob Lassiter
  263. Anon7 says:
    @jon

    Thanks! So, now we know how they train and what their policy is. So, did the woman cop follow the policy? Perhaps we’ll find out.

    The biggest question I have going forward is whether or not this woman cop is going to be crucified for shooting a black man. In other words, will this (apparently white) female cop be treated the way a white male cop would be treated?

    So far, it looks like women cops get a pass.

    Let’s suppose that this is the way it works out. Does that mean that police departments should ONLY hire women cops, because it immunizes them from the ultimate horror of white cops shooting black men?

    • Replies: @Cortes
  264. David says:
    @Dnought

    A movie version of The Count of Monte Cristo came out right around the time Daunte was born. Maybe he was named after the swarthy Edmond Dantès.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  265. El Dato says:
    @photondancer

    “Underground Rottweiler” is a good name for a Techno band that you can listen to while you brandschatz Minneapolis (but do blacks listen to Techno? Is it a white thing? Like dogs?)

    Also:

    Wayne Dupree: Unless the breakdown between police and black people in America is fixed soon, we’ll have a full-scale race war

    ​It has always been a hard and fast rule that an apprehended person never gets back into their vehicle unless directed to by the police officer. Never. In this case, it seems the officer was already aware that the suspect had an outstanding warrant, making the traffic stop automatically more potentially dangerous for the cop. But we don’t know; we weren’t there. The offender should have known what might happen if he tried to get back into his vehicle, especially after ignoring the officer’s repeated orders not to do so. No police officer is going just to let you go in this situation.

    ​My solution? We need to seriously raise the level of understanding about the consequences of running from or ignoring a law enforcement officer in general. This absolutely has to stop because otherwise we are headed for an all-out race war. I blame Barack Obama mostly, but it has been building since we started creating tribalism under the auspices of “diversity,” where we taught our children to resent how their ancestors were treated under slavery, and brainwashed them into believing they were owed and that the only way to fix it is to rebel and protest.

    Why not put it on the school curriculum?

  266. Neuday says:
    @Jack D

    Typical female behavior. Once excited, her mouth said “Taser”, but her body said “Gun”.

    • LOL: Rosie
  267. Cortes says:
    @Anon

    The aura. Periphery only.

  268. @David

    A pretty good movie.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  269. @Skyler the Weird

    Geschlechtsverkehr (die Schaffung eines Kindes) ist in “Kinder” enthalten.

  270. Ganderson says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Most Jews of my acquaintance are extremely liberal and woke and care deeply about black people in general, about individual blacks, not so much.

  271. Bill says:
    @AndrewR

    Jack D, Paul Kersey, and Nicholas Stix would like you to believe that bleks are your real enemy. If you’re too smart for that, Curtis Yarvin is there to tell you Puritans are your real enemy.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @AndrewR
  272. CCZ says:
    @Dan Hayes

    “The Brooklyn Center City Council discussed changing names of buildings and city connections to one of the city’s most famous residents, Earle Brown. In a book on the history of the Ku Klux Klan in Minnesota, the author says the former sheriff was a member of the KKK. Recently Brooklyn Center Schools voted to change the name of Earle Brown Elementary.”

  273. Mr. Anon says:
    @Rosie

    I repeat. You’re delusional.

  274. anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick McNally

    • Replies: @JMcG
  275. Mike Tre says:
    @dvorak

    Bought this album when it came out but sadly as I age I cannot stand the vocals (or the lyrics) any longer. But yes, the outro is a great one; reminiscent of the outro to Hotel California. The effects used with the bass guitar during the verses are also remarkable.

    BSSM has great deep cuts as well: My Lovely Man, The Righteous and the Wicked, and the title track are all outstanding songs, and with a less annoying vocalist would be even better. John Frusciante went to Chatsworth HS, only a couple of miles from where I lived in LA.

  276. Rosie says:
    @kihowi

    Nobody is “attacking your rights”, Rosie. People are voicing opinions. Literally nothing is being done to you.

    Blah, blah, blah. This is so silly.

    Nobody is doing anything to me, that’s true. They’re just advocating the something be done to me: that I be deprived of my right to earn a living. Why would I not “take that personally”?

  277. Rosie says:
    @bomag

    I suppose not.

    But having life as a worker unit trump motherhood does not look to have served us particularly well.

    That is another question altogether. If you think women should be SAHM, we can debate that question. If that is your real concern, pouncing on female failures in fields that don’t play to our strengths is not the way to go about advocating for it. It is pretextual and transparently dishonest.

    For what it’s worth, I still haven’t seen any evidence that women’s workforce participation is responsible for low birth rates. Birth rates among highly-educated career women are trending upwards. Developed countries with higher rates of SAHM don’t fare any better.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  278. @Jack D

    A number of years ago in Paterson there was a homeless man who was the victim of a prank played by the local youths who attended John F. Kennedy High School one day after school. He ended up dying. Immediately the entire family came out of the woodwork to tell the world what a good son/brother/uncle he was and how he would be sorely missed. Meanwhile, they let the guy live on the streets of Paterson without a second thought.

  279. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    They are not blond, but fake blond.

    How can Westerners be so naïve about fake blond hair? It’s actually sad.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  280. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Judging by her hands, she’s white. Judging by Minnesota, she’s blonde.

    As it turns out, she was a fake blond with brown eyes. As expected for Minnesota and the decrepit, inverted, counterfeit Western world in general.

  281. @anon

    Then get out. This is extortion plain and simple. Humans make mistakes and none of these massive payouts should be legal.

  282. JMcG says:
    @El Dato

    Tasers exist because nightsticks look problematic on video and because female cops often aren’t strong enough to properly use them.

  283. Danindc says:
    @James N. Kennett

    She is definitely incompetent but didn’t disrupt the black cop. It’s quite clear.

  284. Alden says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Just read the comments the White women hating MEN OF UNZ made about the 22 White women and girls killed by a brown Muslim terrorists in the Manchester bombing, Tessa Majors murdered by 3 black 8th graders and Deborah Stags short, thin mid 50s White woman beaten by a black man 26 bones broken including a shattered kneecap.

    It’s all right here on the UNZ website.

    White MEN OF UNZ rejoicing when White women are murdered by black and brown men. Every single time a White woman is attacked by a black man, the MEN OF UNZ rejoice.

    And if you want more White babies born, do what my husband and his brothers did. Find a White woman and have some White children.

    The MEN OF UNZ, incel childless wifeless womanless ancient codgers ranting that White birth rates are down. The MEN OF UNZ don’t even know it takes a man and a woman to make a baby.

  285. Alden says:
    @Bill

    Andrew R is a black man who even defends the S Carolina murder of 6 Whites by a black man.
    He calls the massacre a “ very complicated incident” 6 Whites including 2 young children murdered and Andrew R claims it was “ a very complicated incident”

    Boycott Footlocker the company gave 200 million to BLM

    • Troll: AndrewR
  286. Alden says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It wasn’t Daunte’s car. It was a stolen car hijacked that morning. There aughta be a law.
    Cops can’t stop drivers of stolen vehicles.
    How dare they impose Eurocentric White norms on the sacred black criminals.

  287. @Cortes

    “F**k you, pendejo!” Very good. I wish I had said that.

    (“You will, Oscar, you will.”)

    • LOL: Cortes
  288. @GeneralRipper

    General, I grew up in Buffalo in the Bailey-Kensington neighborhood. Bailey Ave was lined with businesses, some being store fronts with a residence behind or above. Buffalo Police Precinct #13 was on Bailey so we had beat cops walking the street. Some of the cops could really twirl their night sticks, toss it out and then catch it on the way back. So go home cut off a broom handle, drill a small hole in it and insert a leather thong and I have my own night stick and numerous lumps, bumps and bruises from trying to match the beat cop. Big mistake taking night sticks and batons away from cops. The Rodney King beat down was responsible for that, Rodney lived to say…”Can’t we all just get along?” Mr. Wright would still be here with some bumps, lump and bruises.

    • Thanks: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  289. David says:

    Interesting Gun Violence Archive statistic: the first 12 days of April 2020 in Minneapolis had one gun crime and one gun casualty, while the same period this year had 19 gun crimes and 22 gun casualties (so far reported).

  290. @anon

    FourZeroZero, now start a recall petiton for Council Member Kris Lawrence-Anderson. She has shown she will caved to any demands out of fear. The Teachers’ Union would probably make her wet her pants.

  291. @schnellandine

    Problem with a Glock-style safety is if you happen to toss the gun into a bag or drawer, you might get a pen or pencil caught between the trigger guard and trigger and then: *BLAM* a most unwanted discharge.

    An external safety mitigates something like this:

    I prefer something like a Walther PPK/S trigger: Double Action/ Single Action. I remember reading an article in a NY newspaper where an engineer was killed and his daughter wounded in an elevator. He was armed with a Walther pistol that was UNCHAMBERED.

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  292. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Due to mass entertainment, people have unrealistic expectations of the police; it’s a secure safe (>10X less chance of being killed than than forestry and fishing) well paid job with a great pension, not the Airborne Rangers.

    It is still considered one of the most dangerous jobs. The overall rate of fatality risk can be misleading as there’s significant variation. There are lots of cops in safe rural areas and small towns that have very little chance of facing dangerous criminals. While serving in urban areas, black areas, crime heavy areas, etc. is significantly more dangerous.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Whiskey
  293. @Rosie

    Honestly a lot of the pushing for SAHMs comes from a place of social and economic insecurity from these men. So in a sense they are victims of greater forces like us all, but their goalposts are flawed. Shrinking labor pool comes more from automation and immigration than from women’s labor participation. As you noted, most working women tend to enter fields that play to their strengths. Many men would rather work gig economy jobs when they could qualify for “pink collar” work that pays better. With America more downwardly mobile than ever, and decades of Hollywood propaganda about average guys scoring hot women, these middle-class men believe they are being deprived of their “happily ever after,” same as the kooky cat ladies who spend their whole lives searching for Mr Right.

    If you notice wealthy guys like doctors who have SAHM wives don’t make a huge deal about it. Because they are secure in their status. Wealthy men also aren’t threatened by working women or being married to them. A lot of truly blue-collar men aren’t either (they need the money!). The main complainers are the downwardly mobile middle class, and those with more verbalist inclinations especially.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Anonymous
  294. Anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    One woman cop kills a black criminal with warrants out driving a stolen car and the women less childless repressed gay old codgers rant that women shouldn’t be cops.

    I estimate the ratio over the last 10 years is 20 men cops to 1 women cops killed suspects.

    You’re not doing a very good job here to dispel the stereotype that women are not very good at math compared to men. This is the sort of mathematical “reasoning” you see African-Americans engage in on Twitter and elsewhere online to argue that whites are more crime and violence prone than blacks are.

    Comparing the absolute numbers of men and women cops involved in these episodes is irrelevant. The number of men cops involved in these situations vastly outnumbers women cops.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  295. Two Cleveland police officers involved in a fatal car chase, were given Letters of Discipline by the city, but before a hearing by a citizens review board. The cops pursued a car that was hijacked, at gun point on W117th and entered onto the I-90 going West before exiting at Eddy Ave. The hijacked car jumped a curb and killed 13 year old Tamia Chappman who was walking home from school. The cops requested permission to pursue but that came after the pursuit began. The driver of the car, a 15 year old black youth, was charged with murder and is awaiting trial. His partner in crime is in detention for four years. The city has been notified that by giving a Letter of Discipline before the citizens review board hearing, no further action may be taken against the cops. I don’t know if the city was aware of that but that seems fair to me.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @AceDeuce
  296. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Goingblankagain

    Female cops are valuable in anything involving female or child victims. In particular, they are very valuable in domestic violence cases (which consume a huge amount of police resources).

    They are often useless in anything involving physical confrontation with male felons; they struggle to project authority and, as in this case, are given to panic.

    You’re describing some sort of counseling or social support work or caregiving. Not law enforcement.

    How are female cops valuable in confronting, subduing, arresting a violent man engaging in domestic violence?

    If they’re valuable in assisting and looking after victims, that’s not police work.

  297. @Kibernetika

    but do they advise going around with a round in the chamber and the safety off?

    A firearm without a round in the chamber is unloaded, and an unloaded firearm is useless.

  298. Marie H says:

    I used to work for a public jurisdiction and I know many law enforcement officers including many females. Not all law enforcement officers do patrol duties. One officer I know does white collar crime as a detective. She has a degree in business. Another female officer specialized in domestic violence, pedophilia, child support issues. She is retired but she was the lead investigator on a case which made national headlines for ages.
    I know another officer who liked patrol. She was 6 feet tall and smart. She moved so I don’t have further information.
    I had a female officer tell me that some of her male colleagues tended to pull their firearms more frequently than she would have in domestic situations. I have no way to judge so will leave it at that.
    I know another officer who did detective work on a case involving DNA evidence and the main crime was breaking and entering. How did the perp do that?
    So, I can say, with facts, that females can perform well in law enforcement.
    The officer in question made an error not associated with her size. Men make mistakes also, not associated with their size.

    • Thanks: vhrm, photondancer
  299. Mr Mox says:
    @L. Guapo

    Ross probably had James May confused with Stephen Fry. They could easily be mistaken for brothers.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  300. Anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    The cops pursued a car that was hijacked, at gun point on W117th and entered onto the I-90 going West before exiting at Eddy Ave. The hijacked car jumped a curb and killed 13 year old Tamia Chappman who was walking home from school.

    The Brooklyn Center officer possibly saved innocent lives by stopping Daunte Wright before he could shoot someone or flee in the motor vehicle.

  301. @William Badwhite

    A firearm without a round in the chamber is unloaded, and an unloaded firearm is useless.

    An infantile invocation of the fallacy of equivocation, revealed obviously false by the logical conclusion from the false premise: ‘A firearm without a round in the chamber is useless.’

    If you say you believe that, you’re lying. May as well say that a holstered firearm is useless. No more holsters!

    Total, obvious disingenuousness.

  302. e.272 says:

    Replying to several comments above about the physical strength and size required to be a cop:

    https://celebritynews.pk/derek-chauvin-2/

    5’9″, 154 lbs

    I don’t know how accurate that is. It is based on looking at photos of Chauvin. George Floyd was 6’4″, 225 lbs. Makes you understand why Chauvin did not want Floyd to get back up on his feet. Floyd might (assuming he did not OD) be alive today if he were arrested by a bigger cop.

  303. @Alden

    Put that box of wine away, honey, and go sleep it off.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Troll: Rosie
  304. Anon7 says:
    @Cortes

    I should probably keep that to myself. Lefty socialist Democrats don’t know much about religion, and I don’t want to give them ideas.

    “Crucify? That’s a thing? Could we do that to them?”

    • Replies: @Cortes
  305. Sean says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Charles Murray pointed out that very few of the men in power have ever been in a fight (physical altercation) in their lives. Among women real fighting is rare in all social classes. Nothing in Officer Kim Potter’s exierience prepared her for facing a cat–quick black youth who might pull a gun from under the seat, so she erred on the side of caution and minimized the danger to herself by killing him. Virtually no women have ever fought a man. The video makes it look like she set him off by touching him. Then she got scared and shot him.

  306. CCZ says:

    Some videos they want released; some not.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brittany-hill-shooting-chicago-police-video-leaked-mother-shot-holding-her-baby/

    CBS 2 legal analyst Irv Miller said the footage should not have been leaked and that the thousands of views the video has generated could complicate the prosecution of this case.

    He also discussed what this means for prosecuting the two men who have been accused of the murder.

    “By having this leaked, to have the public see it now could result in problems later on in the trial because jurors, and we’re all potential jurors, can’t be exposed to things like this prior to the trial,” Miller said

    The leaked video could make it difficult to find an unbiased jury, and force the trial to be relocated.

    Unedited video:

    • Replies: @lysias
  307. @schnellandine

    Schnel, for those who don’t know…with a Glock for instance, you insert the loaded magazine, you then have to pull back on the receiver and release it to chamber a round. Not chambering a round means the gun is super safe, however totally unless you just intend to scare someone.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    , @schnellandine
  308. anon[182] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder if Marshall and Sanow would classify this as a “one-shot stop”?

  309. @Rosie

    Rosie, cops should have a “Rosie” at their side. Best attack dog on iSteve. Dog was meant is a good way, like loyal and protective.

    • Thanks: Rosie
  310. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    Comparing the absolute numbers of men and women cops involved in these episodes is irrelevant. The number of men cops involved in these situations vastly outnumbers women cops.

    She doesn’t have to do that. The initial burden is on you to produce evidence that women cops are particularly likely to shoot people without cause. This incident does not provide any such evidence.

    • Agree: Paperback Writer
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  311. Sean says:
    @Anon

    She has just resigned. I hope other policewomen will learn from this, and stand aside to let the policemen deal with suspect men. The normal procedure in practice from what I have seen is women are just there to be a witness and search female suspects. Some want to do the guy stuff, but it bruises some male suspects’ egos to submit to female cops.

  312. @Grahamsno(G64)

    It would be extraordinary if we had a political leader of any stripe offering this level of articulation and integrity. I don’t see one anywhere. Do you?

    This is the level of argument that could save a civilization. I’ve said it before, but Tucker had better be very, very careful about his personal safety, and that of his family.

    He’s making some very powerful enemies, and they’re the kind who will stop at nothing to vanquish a voice like Tucker Carlson.

  313. anon[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @nokangaroos

    never taken it out of the leather

    A lot of cops regard the sidearm as some kind of badge of office, rather than a tool. This seems to be more pronounced in Europe. This reduces the pistol to something like a magic totem, and in the emergency that becomes a problem.

    Your firing reco is legit, but to ask the question What PD is going to put with that? just answers it.

    The Glock is as close to idiot-proof as it gets and very light for its performance –
    all major selling points.

    Eh, you’re just being patriotic, here.

    I really like the part about “cartridge cases were dark green”, that’s poetic. No fiction writer would even dream it up, because they would not expect anyone to seriously believe it. I totally believe it.

  314. JMcG says:
    @William Badwhite

    My friend with the NFA MAC-10 disagrees.

  315. @Steve Sailer

    Steve, many cities have no pursuit. Cops can not chase. Article at Cleveland.com yesterday about two cops getting “Letters of Discipline” for a pursuit* that ended when a car, hijacked at gun point, jumped a curb and killed a 13 year old girl. Same in Berkeley, U Berkeley cop chased a car which ran over a homeless women sleeping on the sidewalk. The women had been in the same place, near an intersection, for two days before she was run over. *(Cleveland requires cops to get permission from a supervisor before they can pursue. Permission came after the pursuit started.)

  316. Rosie says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Honestly a lot of the pushing for SAHMs comes from a place of social and economic insecurity from these men.

    I used to think this was a low blow designed to psychologize the debate and pathologize conservative men. No longer. That is clearly what is going on here. I would have more respect for them if they would just come right out and be honest about their concerns.

    If you genuinely believe that there isn’t enough work to go around, and wouldn’t be even without immigrants, then it’s not necessarily unreasonable to say that married men should be preferred for those jobs. Note that I may or may not agree with that, but either way it is a legitimate position that a fair-minded nonmisogynist might hold.

    Of course, they would need proof that in fact there is not enough work, and that there are no less draconian and/or more fair measures to deal with that problem, such as, for example, a universal basic income that would ease women’s and men’s fears about relying on one income.

    They can’t possibly meet this burden, of course, because there is no opportunity to even attempt any other solutions. Hence the prevaricating, hasty generalizing, etc.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
  317. @Paperback Writer

    Some black woman somewhere started the trend, and it spread. This is something I’ve noticed about black women: when one does it, they all do.

    Probably even more true of white women.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  318. lysias says:
    @CCZ

    Why wasn’t Chauvin’s trial moved to, say, Duluth?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ic1000
  319. Cortes says:
    @Anon7

    Perhaps reserve it for financial crimes?

    When governing Spain, future short-lived Emperor Galba is supposed to have had a Roman citizen crucified for embezzlement of his pupil’s funds while acting as tutor. The droll Galba answered the predictable objections along the lines of “But he’s a Roman citizen: you can’t have him crucified” by ordering the execution party to build the cross larger than usual and paint it white and then carry out the sentence.

  320. J.Ross says:
    @Mr Mox

    What is this faith in Hammond’s heterosexuality, especially given the opinions of Clarkson and May regarding it?

  321. vhrm says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Not chambering a round means the gun is super safe, however totally unless you just intend to scare someone.

    It’s amusing to bring it up on this site but carrying with an empty chamber is de rigueur in Israel hence it is sometimes called “Israeli carry”. e.g.

    To qualify for duty, all Israeli military commandos and police units must meet an Israeli draw standard of 1.2 seconds for placing the first round on target at eight meters with a handgun, starting unchambered, no round under the firing pin. I doubt that most chambered-carrying U.S. gun owners can match that at the gun range, much less in the field.

    As a former IDF soldier and current U.S. civilian, I always carry chambered and train my students to do so. But I fully understand those who choose to carry a loaded magazine, but without a round chambered, whether for safety or psychological comfort, and regardless of each gun’s safety mechanisms.
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/truth-israeli-carry/

    Anyhow, with regard to this situation, even if police were to carry empty chamber (and i’ve never heard of any American police force that does) they would train to rack the slide as part of their draw. It would be as much part of drawing the gun as is “putting your hand on the grip”, “wrap fingers around grip”, “rock back” (if your holster has that sort of retention system), “pull up”, etc. Due to training, all of this would be one thing anyway.

    By the time the gun was ever pointed at a potential target it would be ready to fire anyway; it would just take a fraction of a second longer to get there. Would this sub-second action or sound of racking provide an interrupt to the conscious brain that it is using a pistol rather than a taser? i don’t think it’s knowable without actual studies (that would be fairly hard to do (1) ) but i doubt it.

    1) maybe speed drills where you have to engage targets under time pressure with either taser or pistol and see if the error rate is higher with one carry condition or another? But to have it be meaningful you’d probably have to have people trained extensively in one way or another of carry. Maybe the Army could do it with cohorts of MPs. Train some of them to always carry and train one way, and the others the other way and then over months and years run them through drills like the above and see if one group has greater error rates than others.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    , @John Johnson
  322. AndrewR says:
    @Bill

    Alden is an appallingly dishonest cat lady who is off her meds and stalks people in order to lie about them and poison the well

  323. @Rosie

    Several people here have defended her, Rosie.

  324. @Gary in Gramercy

    Awesome premise for a black comedy.

  325. @Buffalo Joe

    Not chambering a round means the gun is super safe, however totally unless you just intend to scare someone.

    If a child is unable to even approach racking a slide on a given pistol, it’s safe to leave that child alone with that pistol, loaded and unchambered—contrary to a billion ignorant leftists.

    However, it isn’t safe to attack a capable shooter who has the same gun, same condition. Why? Sophistry notwithstanding, the delay to fire the weapon is a mere 1/4 second. In other words, the disadvantage discussion is accurate only when centered on the delay factor, not some binary fantasy proposition from a High Plains Drifter LARP.

    The reality is not, as pretended, that of someone posing with an unloaded gun, which is among the stupidest ploys on the gun scene.

    I argue in the other direction regarding showing a weapon. In my repeated experience, the best use of a gun is when it’s kept undisclosed until it can be so no longer. In the closest call I’ve had, I chambered a round, quietly, as the burglar approached. Useless gun not, which means it wasn’t useless with an empty chamber—only slightly slower, which in that case was irrelevant. Next stop, Rocket Science!

  326. @Sean

    “Nothing in Officer Kim Potter’s experience prepared her for facing a cat–quick black youth who might pull a gun from under the seat”

    Hadn’t she been in the job 25 years? She must have faced many, surely?

    Not that I think women officers – or small or out of shape male officers either – are suited to roles where a scrap might break out or the suspect might leg it. Urban officers need to be pretty quick over 100m. Most criminals are male, so should be most police officers, or you’re really handing the initiative on the streets to the crims.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/green-lanes-police-stab-boy-critical-haringay-b929357.html

    Police are probing a possible link between the stabbing and a robbery on a nearby popular jogging route in Finsbury Park, where they later found a discarded gun. The suspect, described by police as a slim black man, dressed all in black and carrying a grey man bag, was chased by police from Parkland Walk before fleeing towards Upper Tollington Road. After the chase police found a discarded bag containing a firearm.

    No arrests have been made.

    • Replies: @Sean
  327. @Dr. X

    I always laugh bitterly and sardonically when I hear lefties say “Only the police and military should be allowed to have guns because they have the proper training.”

    KLM had recently instituted new rules for pilots at the time of the Tenerife collision (to this day the deadliest ever) such as tighter sleep requirements and longer breaks between flights. Upon hearing of the accident, those at KLM headquarters rushed to find the head of the safety program who had instituted the new policies, so he could start the investigation.

    He wasn’t available. He was the pilot at Tenerife.

    It certainly wasn’t incompetence. The captain was one of the top pilots at the airline, highly respected by colleagues and management. Which is why he was given the position in the first place. It was a perfect storm of conflicting incentives of the new and old policies, leading to a rash decision in the heat of the moment.

    For a detailed description of this and other cases where highly rational people make irrational decisions, check out the Brafmans’ Sway: The Irresistible Pull of Irrational Behavior .

    • Replies: @Sean
  328. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @lysias

    Why wasn’t Chauvin’s trial moved to, say, Duluth?

    Because Hennepin County Judge Cahill rejected a request for change of venue.

    In other news, the same judge Cahill refused to sequester (isolate) the jury even though one juror is from the area of last night’s riots peaceful protests.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/george-floyd-chauvin-trial-jury-1.5984002

  329. @Ganderson

    When I was manager of a pizza parlor in Brooklyn Park (early 80s) the Brooklyns were 100% white.

    But they were blue-collar white, weren’t they? And thus relatively affordable. A classic case of the well-off neighborhoods pushing integration, which for economic reasons always takes place in the have-nots’ territory.

    I always associated the Brooklyns with Boschwitz’s Plywood Minnesota, but I guess that was in Fridley.

    The Northstar commuter line follows the east bank of the Mississippi, so it goes through Fridley and misses the Brooklyns. Is Fridley gentrifying yet?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Ganderson
  330. @Joe Stalin

    I prefer something like a Walther PPK/S trigger: Double Action/ Single Action.

    I like a DAO pistol very much, though haven’t checked the market lately. Happy with my Glocks, usually kept unchambered, but might pick up a NY trigger to try. When in grizz country or similar I switch to full-time chambered, and do not draw casually.

    • Replies: @anon
  331. Rosie says:
    @AndrewR

    You two should exchange contact info so you can rant about how much you hate men instead of filling up the comment sections with your racist feminism.

    Rosie: Anecdotes of women police officers making mistakes does not justify excluding women from police work.

    AndrewR: Manhating feminist! Burn the Witch!

  332. @schnellandine

    An infantile invocation of the fallacy of equivocation…If you say you believe that, you’re lying…Total, obvious disingenuousness.

    Aww, look who has discovered multi-syllabic words! Fresh off your course in Philosophy 101 (Intro to Logic) at Brisbane U. Nice to see you stretching your wings young fella!

    I suppose you could throw the firearm at someone. Otherwise an unloaded firearm is not of much use. It is true an unloaded one can fairly quickly (though not instantly) be made into a loaded one (i.e. chambering a round in the case of a semi-automatic, or loading the cylinders on a revolver), but if you’d like to try that while attempting to subdue a Daunte, I’d love to watch (really, I would).

    May as well say that a holstered firearm is useless

    A holstered firearm is potentially useful, but currently useless. Unless you’d like to shoot yourself in the foot (something else I’d like to watch).

    • Replies: @schnellandine
  333. Mike Tre says:
    @S. Anonyia

    “You definitely need female cops for dealing with female suspects/victims and certain domestic issues…”

    I don’t agree. Police can bring female suspect/victims back to the station in a controlled environment and then female social workers can take it from there. Further, I don’t believe that female police would be content with being segregated and relegated to dealing with female domestic issues. They became police for access to authority (telling men what to do) or to be an armed welfare recipient.

    Women should not be police, firefighters, paramedics, or enlisted in the military. A sane country (which excludes Pakistan and Iran) would understand this.

  334. Mike Tre says:
    @Rosie

    Telling females they cannot be police officers is not “running them out of the workforce”. Stop lying.

  335. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    I used to think this was a low blow designed to psychologize the debate and pathologize conservative men. No longer. That is clearly what is going on here. I would have more respect for them if they would just come right out and be honest about their concerns.

    Conservatives, the alt-right, manosophere, etc. have been quite explicit about this for years and have repeated it ad nauseam: undermining patriarchal and sexist norms such as SAHMs reduces economic and marriage prospects for many men.

    You have said that the gender and marriage norms that prevailed in 1950s America were too sexist and are unacceptable. That’s fine and you’re entitled to your views, but this means that any solutions you envision are incompatible with those who support 1950s norms. They’re fundamentally incompatible visions. Instead of trying to force these conflicting visions on the other side, there should be separate societies for each.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  336. @Anonymous

    How can Westerners be so naïve about fake blond hair? It’s actually sad.

    Jeez, we just glanced at her picture. We’re not looking to marry her! If we (and she) were younger and single, then a closer examination would be in order.

    Green, blue, and orange hair dyes are actually preferable to the more natural colors. You know they are faking from the start. The truth will come out– in the rinse– soon enough.

    Is this other Brooklyn Center cop fake, too? Good dyeing job if she is.

    https://www.facebook.com/SOMinnesota/photos/pcb.10155747778675702/10155747777540702/?type=3&theater

  337. Anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite

    I don’t think there are a lot of people who consider a gun with full magazine inside it to be unloaded.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  338. @Sean

    Charles Murray pointed out that very few of the men in power have ever been in a fight (physical altercation) in their lives. Among women real fighting is rare in all social classes.

    That’s interesting (to me at least) because I have long wondered at the seemingly unjustified self-confidence of assholes in leadership positions under whom I have personally labored — and of course also our famous political and corporate rulers.

    Most give me the strong stink of never having dealt with either a tough fight, a debilitating problem, or a serious challenge from anyone. And so, here they are, ruling us. Fuck them.

    • Agree: Cortes
  339. @ben tillman

    They all tend to “cycle” together when they live or work as a group, so conformity is the rule, rather than the exception.

  340. @William Badwhite

    It is true an unloaded one can fairly quickly

    No, I was assured such a gun is useless. Therefore, it stays useless. Kind of like how an unstarted car is forever useless, or how beginning a journey is useless because you aren’t yet at the destination.

    (though not instantly) be made into a loaded one

    No, it’s instantly—faster even than it takes you to retreat from a silly untenable position while pretending otherwise.

    I normally carry unchambered. Under pressure I ably unholstered my gun, chambered a round, and dealt with a burglar. That gun was not useless. Your post was wrong. Now talk about syllables.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  341. CCZ says:
    @anon

    Brooklyn Center, MN Mayor: “I don’t believe that officers need to necessarily have weapons every time they’re making a traffic stop.”

  342. Sean says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    That pilot was going to lose money and have a blemish on his record, yet what he did in taking off without permission was extremely dangerous to his life and limb.

    When in a man, DNA drives him to be a big hero, taking risks for that rock star pay off. In a woman, that same behavior would be counterproductive, from her DNA’s point of view. Hence, compared to a policewoman a male cop is, relatively speaking, going to be more worried about their image than dying.

    Once she was in it, the policewoman’s brain wasn’t being irrational in instantly calculating she would be better off killing Wright, that was the safest thing to do at that moment; she lost her job, but to a woman, so what?

  343. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @S. Anonyia

    If you notice wealthy guys like doctors who have SAHM wives don’t make a huge deal about it. Because they are secure in their status. Wealthy men also aren’t threatened by working women or being married to them. A lot of truly blue-collar men aren’t either (they need the money!). The main complainers are the downwardly mobile middle class, and those with more verbalist inclinations especially.

    A society with broad based, lifelong monogamous marriages depends on most women being SAHMs and men being husband providers.

    Removing the norm of SAHMs introducing greater economic independence for women disrupts and destabilizes this pattern of broad based lifelong monogamous marriage.

    Doctors and other high earning, wealthy men are generally high enough above the income/wealth threshold and are insulated from this. In fact, they arguably benefit because it provides them with a greater pool of young women in the workplace and dating market that in previous generations would have been attached and married off already.

  344. Art Deco says:
    @Alden

    Darryl Wilson

    Darren Wilson, and his conduct was fully justified.

    George Zimmerman

    Straightforward self-defense claim.

    Derek Chauvin

    Nothing untoward about his conduct. Show trial ongoing.

    the Baltimore cops who bounced a black man to death in back of the police van, t

    They did nothing of the kind. Security camera video from commercial establishments assembled along the route demonstrated the driver was operating the vehicle normally. (There was only one driver, by the way). The arrestee in the other compartment emerged completely unharmed and said that Gray had been bouncing off the walls. There’s a reason the prosecutor was completely humiliated in that case.

    he ones who killed the car thief kidnapper in Kenosha WI

    Also a justified shooting.

    beat up Rodney King are all men.

    King attacked the assembled officers. His traveling companions were sitting in the car unharmed. The four officers with the nightsticks had to intervene forcefully to prevent the lady cop on the scene from shooting King.

    • Agree: Dnought
    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Alden
  345. Art Deco says:
    @Rosie

    They’re just advocating the something be done to me: that I be deprived of my right to earn a living.

    The ‘they’ in this case is one poster who signs himself ‘Wade Hampton’. And he was likely trolling you. (Or he’s unaware that there’s never been a time when division of labor between men and women was so strict).

    Not sure of the granular details of this particular case. Am aware that women and protective services occupations are usually a bad fit and that a mess of lawyers and politicians have been for decades attempting to pump up the numbers of women in these occupations contra the preferences of market participants, convention, or good sense. They do this by relaxing performance metrics for female aspirants. The place for women in law enforcement is as civilian investigators with technical specialties or as jail matrons and guards in women’s prisons. Every once in a while you’ll find a female candidate who can pass the performance metrics male applicants do.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Rosie
  346. Kylie says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “‘accidental discharge’

    Never a good thing.”

    Never? Oh, come now.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  347. Sean says:
    @Alden

    Policewoman.

    Policewomen are rarer and not put in situations where they have to use guns Kimberly Potter and Amber Guyger show one of the lesser understood reasons for that common sense policy.

    This may be of interest to you
    https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2017/10/probation_officer_charged_in_h.html

  348. ic1000 says:
    @lysias

    > Why wasn’t Chauvin’s trial moved to, say, Duluth?

    I was going to say, “To ask the question is to answer it.” But it’s more insightful to consider why journalists of the Upper Class Media refuse to entertain this question at all.

    The LAPD cops who beat/subdued (your choice) Rodney King got a jury of their peers in the changed venue of Simi Valley, which delivered the wrong verdict. Derek Chauvin’s hypothetical “right to a fair trial” is unimportant, when the hunger of Progressive Minneapolis for justice/vengeance (your choice) must be satisfied. If some jurors stray, they will be more easily corrected than would their counterparts in faraway Duluth.

  349. @Hypnotoad666

    Well said. I just wanted to say one more thing, using your last sentence — “But that’s the chance you take when you resist arrest and run from the cops” — as a point of departure.

    Every single time a black dies in any kind of altercation with law enforcement, we are compelled to sit through acres of stories about how black mothers (curiously, black fathers are never around for this parental task) have to give their children “The Talk.” You know, The Talk about how to behave when police officers pull you over in your car (or one of your friends’ cars), or stop you on the street. I’ve read these stories plenty of times, and while maybe it’s just for show, I get the slightest hint that the mothers who give their kids — mostly their sons — The Talk seem serious about telling those kids that mouthing off to cops is senseless, and can only lead to bigger problems.

    And yet, we have depressingly similar incidents cropping up all over. Is toxic black masculinity at fault? By contrast, I would never run from the police, even if I had outstanding warrants — but I can’t run from a grandma in a wheelchair. I’d hire a lawyer, and fight the matter in court — but, sure, I was a lawyer for nearly two decades; I know that the law often turns on whether one side or another complied with the niceties of all manner of procedural rules, i.e., what laymen call “technicalities.” A good criminal defense lawyer could probably find some defect in each of the outstanding warrants, thereby calling into question the police’s right to stop me in the first place.

    Maybe those black moms, worriedly giving their sons The Talk, should tell them something like this:

    “If you’re stopped by the police, don’t say anything, other than ‘yes, sir, Officer,’ and ‘no, sir, Officer.’ Don’t give them any reason to beat you, much less shoot you. And for Heaven’s sake, son, don’t try to make a break for it! That’s just asking to get shot 43 times, just to make sure they got you dead.

    “If they ask you anything more than where’s your I.D., just tell them you want a lawyer. If they’ve stopped the wrong guy — maybe the warrants they have are defective, maybe the perp they’re looking for bears a slight resemblance to you (remember, to white folk, we all look alike) — we can argue about it in court, with a lawyer who’s paid to argue for a living, in front of a judge. There, you have a chance of coming out on top. But arguing with a policeman who has a gun and isn’t afraid to use it, you don’t have a chance. Keep your wits about you, son, and remember, your mother loves you very much.”

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  350. @Rosie

    If you believed that women were only interested in men for material provision and you were a man who wanted a woman to want him, then you too would be highly interested in making a million more acceptable rationalizations for keeping women out of the work place

    Believe the first part and be single and heterosexual and you would be silly to not push for the latter

    Of course, believing the first part requires an extremely wounded ego and sense of self

    • Replies: @Rosie
  351. @Steve Sailer

    That version of The Count of Monte Christo was pretty faithful to what is a Great story and had Jim Calavezial (or something) as the Count. He also played Jesus in Mel Gibson’s Passion of the Christ.

  352. @Buffalo Joe

    Big mistake taking night sticks and batons away from cops.

    Yep, it used to be:
    1) I am 6′ 220 pounds and imposing
    2) night stick
    3) choke hold
    4) taser
    5) gun

    Women can’t do #1, and 2 and 3 are out because it looks bad on video, so the female cop has to start with #4.

    One time I saw a cop hit a guy with a night stick. It looked very persuasive. I quickly left the area.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  353. anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @schnellandine

    When in grizz country or similar I switch to full-time chambered, and do not draw casually.

    If you are genuinely concerned about bears, and insist on a Glock, the only choice is G20. However that’s really below the power floor.

    Situational awareness and a good knowledge of bear habits & instincts are equally, if not more, important. Never run from any bear, it just announces that you are food, triggering the chase instinct.

    Any North American bear can run faster uphill than a human can run downhill.
    Never run from a bear.

    • Agree: schnellandine
  354. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    Conservatives, the alt-right, manosophere, etc. have been quite explicit about this for years and have repeated it ad nauseam: undermining patriarchal and sexist norms such as SAHMs reduces economic and marriage prospects for many men.

    Fair enough. At least you’re honest. This is about opportunities for men, not women’s supposed incompetence.

    Now, let’s talk about opportunities for men. Women didn’t outsource your jobs to foreign sweatshops and import a reserve labor pool to undermine your wages. Plutocrats (almost all of whom are male) did that, and you know it.

    So now the question becomes: Why are you unwilling to consider the possibility that foreign competition is the problem rather than women’s participation in the workforce? You can’t prove otherwise, and you can’t act on your proposals for a reactionary crackdown on women. Indeed, so long as you continue to antagonize White women, you won’t get anything done on the foreign competition front either.

    They’re fundamentally incompatible visions.

    Ah, yes. The relativistic discourse of competing “visions.” You cannot prove that your proposed reactionary crackdown on women is necessary, so you resort to the old “live and let live” standby. Fair enough. If you can get women to voluntarily sign a social compact that consigns them to de jure second-class citizenship voluntarily, far be it from me to stand in your way.

    But I will say this. We need a divorce. If turning back the clock on women’s rights is your priority, then you and your ilk need to get out of White nationalism. You are not pro-White and you are harmful to the cause. Take the alt-right brand with you, please, and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  355. Rosie says:
    @Art Deco

    The ‘they’ in this case is one poster who signs himself ‘Wade Hampton’.

    I note for the record that, instead of objecting to that deranged reactionary misogynists, you’re here criticizing me for noticing that there are deranged reactionary misogynists around here.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  356. @Patrick McNally

    Patrick, the police pulled him over. He has warrants. An officer was cuffing him. She interferred. She had her gun in hand. Her gun is matte black. The taser is canary yellow. She carried her gun on her right hip. She carried her taser on her left hip. I am not anti cop, pro criminal or anti women. I still say this was bad policing on her part. We’re good.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  357. @Rosie

    Now, let’s talk about opportunities for men. Women didn’t outsource your jobs to foreign sweatshops and import a reserve labor pool to undermine your wages. Plutocrats (almost all of whom are male) did that, and you know it.

    Oh they’ll blame Jews for that and then try to forget that the 1950s Supreme court was a WASP club.

    You see wealthy Whites like Bill Gates would really like to do what is in the best interest of working class Whites but they are held back by those other globalists.

    How can these ridiculously wealthy globalists even do anything when all they have is money?

    Let’s also not forget that race denial based conservatism has been led by White men.

    A bunch of White men got together and decided it was best for the country to lie about race and push for tax cuts. White men have been pushing right-based race denial for decades even when nature in response has said not really.

    So yea spare me this blaming women crap.

  358. Marty says:
    @Alden

    How dare they impose Eurocentric White norms on the sacred black criminals.

    In ‘94 I made this same point to a guy on the Berkeley campus regarding O.J., – “black people can’t be bound by white concepts of murder.” Pretty sure my tongue was firmly enough in cheek, but he looked at me like I was deranged.

  359. @BigJimSportCamper

    BigJim, I’m Joe, who’s Clarence? Stay safe in WNY.

  360. @Gary in Gramercy

    The black women who blabber on about “The Talk” which you mention always present things in a framework where the poor little innocent black boy has been stopped by malicious police. They never address the issue of “But mommy, what if I just stole a bunch of cigarillos and shook up the scrawny store clerk?” But this is the more typically scenario which unfolds. It doesn’t help to teach black to be cooperative with police unless you first teach them not to commit crimes. The black women who on about “The Talk” typically leave that last detail out.

    • Replies: @Alden
  361. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    It’s not uncommon for ghettoes to have previously been prosperous areas, South Shore and parts of Hyde Park and Kenwood in Chicago, for example.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  362. @Anon

    How would they shoot a Peter Chiodo?

    On May 8, 1991 five Lucchese assassins ambushed Chiodo and his friend in a black van with [U]zi submachine guns at a gas station in Staten Island where he was working on a car. Chiodo received 21 bullet wounds in the hands, arms, legs, torso, shoulders, and his face but survived the attack, his friend died instantly from multiple gunshot wounds. over 200 shots were fired at him, that destroyed his car he was hiding behind. Doctors credited Chiodo’s 500 pound (227 kg.) weight for saving his life.

    https://mafia.wikia.org/wiki/Peter_Chiodo

    That’s about 36 stone, for you Brits.

    According to Chiodo, he decided to become a government witness to protect his family. The government quickly brought Chiodo’s immediate family into the federal Witness Protection Program.

    As a fellow commenter asked when I posted this story before, “How?”

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  363. George says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “She is the police union president and a veteran officer who served on a law enforcement honor guard.”

    I wonder if her responsibilities typically involved any actual policing?

    • Agree: Hibernian
  364. @Hibernian

    It’s not uncommon for ghettoes to have previously been prosperous areas, South Shore and parts of Hyde Park and Kenwood in Chicago, for example.

    And vice versa. Georgetown was once the ghetto of DC, when the rest of the city was fine.

  365. Maybe someone here can clarify: do cops carry with a round chambered? Even with a gun that has no safety? I can (sort of) understand reaching for the taser and instead grabbing the Glock. But did she also pull back the slide to chamber a round?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @JMcG
  366. Had to post this. The Buffalo Common Council voted, 6-3, to remove school zone speed cameras and replace them with…”Non punitive traffic calming features, such as speed bumps” A new level of woke speak…traffic calming.

  367. Whiskey says: • Website
    @vhrm

    There is considerable debate upon this.

    Fairbairn and Sykes in the 1920’s book “Shooting to Live With the One Handed Gun” advocate for uniformed patrol officers, the 1911 with all safeties removed and a loaded magazine, no round in the chamber. This duplicates the modern Glock. They instituted that, regular training that took advantage of the body’s natural reactions under stress (instead of fighting it), shooting houses for training, and regular weapons maintenance while in the brutal conditions of 1920’s Shanghai and cut officer fatality down considerably. Their problem was mass training lots of officers as fast as possible with simple as possible methods to give them a chance against dangerous gangsters in 1920s Shanghai.

    Interestingly enough, they considered a cut down revolver in .45 ACP or 45 Colt to be the best for plainclothes detectives and the fastest into action. For years, the revolver in either a big bore (45 Colt, 45 ACP in moonclips, 44 Special) or later, .357 was THE answer for concealed carry serious gunfighters wearing a badge. Jelly Bryce and Jim Cirillo both carried revolvers separated by about 40 years. The latter being the most successful gunfighter ever as part of the NYPD Stakeout squad. He wrote about his experiences in his book “Guns Bullets and Gunfights” and thought the modern double action revolver was the fastest and most powerful into action.

    The .357 Magnum had a lot of people using it in and around the Border, but also the 1911. Which had many advocates and seems to be the preferred gun for undercover narcotics officers who bet their lives on their firearm literally. Frank Serpico used a similar Browning Hi-Power to save his life in his shooting that left him permanently disabled. The 1911 pattern is flat, slim, can be had in powerful cartridges that are fast, penetrate barriers, and are flat shooting: 10mm, .38 Super auto, .357 Sig, .40 S&W besides the slow but heavy 45 ACP.

    Glocks like most military sidearms are meant to be carried without a round in the chamber — it has a five pound trigger pull and no safety. However many police officers carry it with a round in the chamber, NDs being common as you can expect, as they might have only hand available, need it very quickly. Watch the Youtube channel Active Self Protection, for how many of these incidents happen and you can see: A. the person/officer is generally surprised and has no warning, B. Multiple assailants, C. Only a microsecond to react.

    The Israeli method is probably best for Glocks because of their design, but it does have its drawbacks. It is no longer used I believe by the Israeli military and was an artifact of earlier plethora of models of autoloaders requiring a uniform training method to deploy rapidly.

    There was a guide who was killed by a Grizzly in Wyoming when his client who had a Glock 20 could not rack the slide and ran away. In brown bear country the Glock 20 is severely underpowered even with the ultra hot loads from boutique manufacturers. People in Alaska are carrying them because they are light.

    For those interested, Paul Harrell has a video comparing round in chamber, and not, and why someone might want or might not want to carry (depends on the gun, local laws, training, holster). Lenny Magill of the Glock Store has a video on Youtube explaining why he carries his Glock in condition 3 (empty chamber, full magazine). In a decent holster, double action revolvers are very safe to carry with full chambers and very slow to reload even with moonclips if your name is not Jerry Miculek.

    Police generally receive poor training, among them the command to “FIRE” and keep firing upon gun shots. This is a training error that results upon lots of rounds loosed when maybe they should not be — tasers are shaped like glocks often and carried in hip holsters. Etc. Training police is expensive and bad training results in bad shootings, over and over again. The LAPD unloaded upon a truck they thought had Chris Dorner and instead had two Latino women delivering newspapers. Better training would have prevented that (fortunately the women were not killed or seriously injured but their truck was a total loss).

    • Thanks: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @vhrm
    , @Kibernetika
  368. JMcG says:
    @AndrewR

    Alden offers a lot of insight into what goes on with the criminal class. I believe she was involved in the probation system. I appreciate a great deal of what she posts. Rosie fights her corner, there’s nothing wrong with that at all. Neither strikes me as unintelligent, as nor do you.
    It’s just an Internet comments section, after all. It sometimes feels like the joke about the meeting of IRA commanders. First thing on the agenda? The split.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  369. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Anon

    Police work takes a heavy toll on cops. They roll up on suicides, traffic accidents, murders, etc. and see things about humanity that most never have to look at. Often involving little kids.

    Suicide remains a leading cause of death. Broken marriages are common. It is a very high stress occupation. Very rarely do the ever encounter nice people.

    • Agree: JMcG
  370. Rosie says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    Of course, believing the first part requires an extremely wounded ego and sense of self

    Indeed. It is quite bizarre. It is chiefly fathers who are interested in suitors for material provision, usually for benevolent reasons, and good fathers resist this impulse.

    @4:00

  371. Art Deco says:
    @Rosie

    I thought he was needling you. In any case, my comments are not on moderation, but they are limited to three per hour. Not using up my budget on him.

  372. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    Maybe someone here can clarify: do cops carry with a round chambered?

    US cops do. Other countries have other policies.

    Even with a gun that has no safety?

    The Glock has 3 safety mechanisms.

    I can (sort of) understand reaching for the taser and instead grabbing the Glock.

    That appears to be what happened.

    But did she also pull back the slide to chamber a round?

    No.

    • Thanks: Anonymous Jew
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  373. JMcG says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    I’ve posted it here before, but I once had a Philadelphia Highway Patrolman whack me across the shoulder blades with a nightstick. I instantly lost interest in anything except not being hit again.

  374. @Reg Cæsar

    They shot Chicago’s “Tokyo Joe” Ken Ito three times in the head and then he sang like a canary to the government.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Hibernian
  375. @Buffalo Joe

    He has warrants.

    Oh, boy, does he have warrants. Mr. Andy Ngo to the rescue (meaning I learned about it from his Twitter feed):

    EXCLUSIVE: Daunte Wright had a warrant out for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges after ‘choking and holding a woman at gunpoint for $820 in 2019,’ court papers reveal

    This is ANOTHER Jacob Blake case. Except Daunte got dinged.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467375/Daunte-Wright-warrant-arrest-attempted-aggravated-robbery-charges.html

  376. @Rosie

    None of the sane people here is advocating depriving you of the right to make a living. They think that opportunity should be based on merit. This would mean no female firefighters because women are weaker than men.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  377. CCZ says:
    @El Dato

    Some think so:

  378. @Buffalo Joe

    Avoid driving in school zones at lunchtime. Mobs of clueless kids headed for the nearest junk food shops cross the street wherever they please.

    Also avoid them at around 2:30. SUVs driven by aggressive, entitled school parents (or their nannies) converge on the sites and block traffic in both directions, park illegally, etc.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  379. JMcG says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    Yes, cops carry with a round chambered. If the pistol is a Glock, once the pistol is drawn, a press of the trigger will fire a round.

    • Thanks: Anonymous Jew
  380. siv says:

    Mr. Wright was wanted for arrest on a gross misdemeanor warrant. And he was arrested for aggravated robbery in February. (Aggravated robbery is robbery using a dangerous weapon.

    Sounds worse than it is. The gross misdemeanor is carrying w/o a permit and evading police. The aggravated robbery was, reportedly, collecting rent from a roommate.

    Still didn’t deserve to get capped for non violent resisting arrest and attempting to flee by a 26 year veteran “training officer” and public employee union chief diversity-hire who reportedly couldn’t tell her 3lb+ loaded Glock from a 12oz plastic taser that she’d been holding and pointing for at least FIVE SECONDS per her bodycam.

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  381. vhrm says:
    @Whiskey

    For American cops there are at least 2 additional issues about carrying empty chamber i can think of (in addition to the “it takes two hands” thing mentioned in the videos which i think is significant enough in itself)

    1) as we’ve seen in various bodycam videos (including Floyd’s 2019 arrest shown in court today and 2020 arrest ) cops seem to pull out their guns a fair amount. In each of those cases they’d have to rack to load which would be construed as more aggressive than just drawing the gun.

    2) like in both of these Floyd vids the cops didn’t fire their weapons and then reholstered them and had to continue with the arrests. Well… if they were used to carrying empty chamber (and perhaps they have less careful gun handling skills because they’re used to that extra margin of safety) now they’d have to remember that they have one IN the chamber. Returning the gun to its previous condition is actually a bit involved:
    a) take out mag
    b) rack to eject the chambered round
    c) catch or pick up the ejected round
    d) put said round back in the magazine (or in your pocket at least to put in the mag later)
    e) insert the magazine into the gun.

    it’s not that this is hard and you’d do stuff generally like this anytime you’re practicing at the range, but when would a cop DO this after drawing his gun? out in the street by his car? back at the station? Seems like this kind of complication would increase the chances of a mishap.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  382. @vhrm

    By the time the gun was ever pointed at a potential target it would be ready to fire anyway; it would just take a fraction of a second longer to get there. Would this sub-second action or sound of racking provide an interrupt to the conscious brain that it is using a pistol rather than a taser? i don’t think it’s knowable without actual studies (that would be fairly hard to do (1) ) but i doubt it.

    There are two valid sides to this argument.

    There have been shootings where the cop had to draw and fire.

    But if you added a thumb safety I would like to think it would just become instinctive. Making them rack the slide would probably be too much especially since they could accidentally half rack it.

    But then you have cases where instinct fails like this recent shooting. There would probably still be the occasional cop that unthumbs the safety and still thinks taser. The really need to stress test the recruits but that would probably fail out too many females and the establishment can’t have that.

  383. @Anonymous

    I don’t think there are a lot of people who consider a gun with full magazine inside it to be unloaded.

    But you can have a full mag of 20-to-a-gazillion rounds inserted into a lower without chambering a round, and that’s still unloaded, IMHO.

  384. @Whiskey

    FWIW, I would defer to Paul Harrell. He ain’t no dummy.

  385. @Just another serf

    Damn, keeping to my 1911s. Thanks.

    • Agree: JMcG
  386. AceDeuce says:
    @Steve Sailer

    When George Bailey ran off after scuffling with Bert the cop in It’s a Wonderful Life, Bert promptly drew his gun and fired several rounds at George as he was running away.

  387. AceDeuce says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    A lot of “urban” high schools these days have several (4-5) cop cars in place twice a day–when the little darlings are going to school in the morning, and when they leave in the afternoon–for exactly that reason.

    The kids usually have to stay in school for lunch-again for that same reason.

  388. Jiminy says:

    It’s funny how little things can turn into big things in the blink of an eye. Just one simple mishap.
    It reminds me of the time my ex-wife accidentally salted my meal with ant powder, an unfortunate mistake now that I look back on it. But we can laugh about these things thank god. Something poor old Daunte can’t do. But if she had grazed him, wouldn’t they be laughing about it now down at the pub. “ Hey pig, remember that time when you dang popped me instead of tazering me.”

  389. AceDeuce says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Eddy Road (not avenue) is east from W 117th Street, not west.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  390. @Sean

    “Charles Murray pointed out that very few of the men in power have ever been in a fight (physical altercation) in their lives. Among women real fighting is rare in all social classes”

    I’ve reflected on this also. It has undesirable consequences since they end up with unrealistic ideas of how physical conflicts play out, and can enact daft policies on the basis of their misconceptions.

  391. @Buffalo Joe

    BigJim, I’m Joe, who’s Clarence?

    This Clarence doesn’t have a branch chapel of the wonderfully-named Amigone Funeral Home. But Amigone buries a Clarence this week:

    https://www.amigone.com

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  392. Sean says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    She is a former head of the police union, so probably had some silly ideas; thought like you do that with all that experience she’d be able to cope. Actually the fresh faced policeman had it under control so she (maybe his training officer) decided to act like she was capable, aand touched Wright, who instantly went crazy. Policewomen do the same tasks as policemen in training, but in the street? No they don’t.

    The situation she inadvertently created was one of risk and uncertainty. A 20 years’ young black male is going to be a blur of motion compared to a woman pushing 50; she knew had a history involving carrying a gun, and might have one in the car, and if so his action in reaching for it under the seat would be faster then her reaction. The costs of underrating the threat exceed the costs of a false alarm, so the only sensible thing to was to shoot Wright. She was a bit conflicted about it, but on close examination this does not look like a mistake at all.

    • Replies: @Alden
  393. Jiminy says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    If you’re Joe, then where the hell is Josh.

  394. Neoconned says:
    @Mr. Anon

    If you google “hijack radioactive” youll see old boneheaded instances of thos happening in Mexico of all places……its happened here as well, fwiw….

  395. Anonymous[437] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    She doesn’t have to do that. The initial burden is on you to produce evidence that women cops are particularly likely to shoot people without cause. This incident does not provide any such evidence.

    She is trying to refute the very reasonable hypothesis that women make worse police officers than men by comparing the absolute numbers of men and women cops involved in these sorts of episodes. The hypothesis is reasonable precisely because it’s supported by everyone’s real world experience and evidence. Comparing absolute numbers is totally irrelevant as the number of men cops involved in these situations vastly outnumbers women cops.

    This sort of poor mathematical reasoning is precisely what you see from blacks on Twitter and elsewhere who try to refute the reasonable hypothesis that blacks are more violence and crime prone by pointing out absolute numbers for crime stats, rather than rates.

    Incidentally:

    • Thanks: Sean
    • Replies: @Rosie
  396. @siv

    Where did you get this “collecting rent” story from? When I looked up the stuff about “Daunte Wright” and “rent” what I came out with was a story that he had stolen money from someone who intended to use that money for rent, but not that he himself was a landlord collecting rent from a tenant. They say that Wright and another man went “to a party” and ended up staying at the home of 2 women (who apparently were stupid enough to let them hang around their house as late as 2:30 AM).

    http://www.the-sun.com/news/2697094/daunte-wright-allegedly-choked-woman-steal-money/

    Are you implying that Wright was actually a legitimate rent-collector? I’ll have to see some reference for that.

    • Thanks: Alden
  397. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    She doesn’t have to do that. The initial burden is on you to produce evidence that women cops are particularly likely to shoot people without cause. This incident does not provide any such evidence.

    She is trying to refute the very reasonable hypothesis that women make worse police officers than men by comparing the absolute numbers of men and women cops involved in these sorts of episodes. The hypothesis is reasonable precisely because it’s supported by everyone’s real world experience and evidence. Comparing absolute numbers is totally irrelevant as the number of men cops involved in these situations vastly outnumbers women cops.

    This sort of poor mathematical reasoning is precisely what you see from blacks on Twitter and elsewhere who try to refute the reasonable hypothesis that blacks are more violence and crime prone by pointing out absolute numbers for crime stats, rather than rates.

    Incidentally:

  398. Jiminy says:
    @Sean

    Maxwell being left alive is only logical. Don’t forget that she is jewish, so her future safety is guaranteed. She did not run and hide, because it was obviously Epstein running the honeypot. The bad guy is dead, so it won’t be long before Maxwell is released back to the jews as a hero.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  399. @schnellandine

    No, I was assured such a gun is useless

    No you weren’t. Nobody was talking to you. You chimed in later, like an obnoxious child.

    I normally carry unchambered

    This I believe.

    Under pressure I ably unholstered my gun, chambered a round, and dealt with a burglar

    I believe that you believe that. And then you slapped him with your glove and called him an “unscrupulous, contemptible, devious knave!”

    Good heavens boy, put down the keyboard and the game console and go experience life.

  400. @AceDeuce

    Ace, you are absolutely correct. I exit at W117 when I visit my children, so I see the Target Store where the carjacking occured. He entered the I-90 heading east, taking him into East Cleveland where he ran over the 13 year old girl. Thank you.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  401. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, you’re too funny and when the Amigone family used to have their signage in cursive it was Am i gone. That crematory, in a residential neighborhood, has drastically affected home values.

  402. throtler says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Thank you for pointing out the Oscar Grant incident. The male cop did the same thing as this female cop was supposed to have done. Some men are so down on women that they want to forget that a male did it too.

  403. Alden says:

    The evil White cop, Shetsky who shot car thief kidnapper Jacob Blake in Kenosha WI was exonerated and is back at work.

    It’s really unpredictable. Like a lightening strike what happens to a White cop who kills a black. Potter’s entitled to her pension. If I were her I’d get on a plane to another country and let the union or another lawyer handle her pension details. If she has kids and spouse they can visit her. Remember the White woman cop persecuted by the civil rights for all but Whites division of the justice department because the police dog bit a black thug who needed some stitches Trump finally pardoned her after she served 10 years.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  404. Alden says:
    @Sean

    The young black man cop she was training could not get the handcuffs on another young black man. So the 26 year experienced officer intervened to help and thanks be to god another criminal armed robber driving a stolen car will never steal another person’s property again.

    Wright and his friend strong armed aggravated robbed a woman while criminally trespassing. The MEN OF UNZ must be sooo proud of another man beating and robbing a woman.

    Visit California and you’ll see 4 to 6 5’7 Hispanic and Asian men cops questioning a 6’4 270 black man. LAPD doesn’t get out of their cars until 5 or 6 of the Mexican midgets are on the scene. Even if it’s just a homeless acting weird.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Sean
  405. Alden says:
    @AndrewR

    Andrew R You are the black man who claims the black NFL less than mediocre Adams who slaughtered 6 Whites including 2 young children wasn’t murder but a “ very complicated incident”

    You’re a black man who believes Adams, a black man was justified in massacring 6 Whites. I hope one of your fellow black men does to you what black men do to each other and soon.

    I’m a White Nationalist. You’re a black man who justifies blacks murdering Whites.
    T
    Obviously we can never agree.

  406. @anon

    Even with a gun that has no safety?

    The Glock has 3 safety mechanisms.

    None of which are the traditional trigger safety that people are talking about when they say that the Glock has no safety.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
  407. Ganderson says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Dunno, haven’t been to Friendly Fridley in a while- when I lived in MN I used to get my hockey stuff at Dave’s Sport Shop on Central north of 694 , which I think is in Fridley, but might be in Blaine, and stop at the White Castle, also on Central but south of 694.

  408. @anon

    Read the NY trigger review today. Language there leads me again to wonder whether a reviewer understands the Glock action and in which net direction the stock trigger spring acts.

    Think of Your Glock as a Revolver

    [MORE]

    One thing the New York trigger group gives you, in addition to a heavier pull, is a double action revolver feel. It transfers the resistance into a vertical orientation as opposed to a horizontal one. For this reason it’s often installed to help revolver shooters transition to the Glock. To me, it feels like my Smith & Wesson Model 629, with a long “roll through” — almost as if a cylinder is rotating.

    Given how many people apparently believe that the stock trigger spring resists the trigger, the wording is perhaps suspiciously vague. I suspect he doesn’t understand how the NYT works. Why not state directly and clearly what the mod does, starting with the purpose of the stock spring’s orientation?

    For that matter, how often have you seen it stated openly what the primary trigger-resistance spring is? Damned sure isn’t the trigger spring, even when it’s a NY trigger spring.

    Would love to read an engineer geeking about the stock trigger spring orientation (angle).

  409. Alden says:
    @Art Deco

    Because of your hatred of White women, you deliberately misinterpreted my comment.

    My point was that the White women hating MEN OF UNZ defended the White and black men who were accused of killing Freddy Gray, Mike Brown, Martin, Floyd, Blake and other black criminals.

    But the White women hating MEN OF UNZ wont defend a White woman who shot a black criminal because a black man couldn’t get the cuffs in a black criminal.

    FYI all you White women haters wondering what aggravated robbery is, in your state it might be termed armed or strong armed robbery. Robbery, physically taking something from a person. Strong, armed armed, aggravated by force in Wright’s case, strangulation

    If White men such as the Supreme Court justices governors presidents senators congressmen state assembly men city council men and mayors those White men running the country would not have rammed through the affirmative action law in 1868 and Griggs vs Duke Power 1973 during the White man Johnson and Nixon administrations

    1968-1973 all but about 8 percent Congress and state assembly critters who imposed affirmative action on you White men were White men. The judges senators governors etc were all White men.

    And for all you abortion freaks, the SC justices who legalized abortion in Roe vs Wade were all White men and I believe only one Jew.

    White men have only White men if the greatest generation for the fact that those White men made the laws and court findings and rulings that are now and will destroy White Americans.

    “ disproportionate representation is in and of itself clear and present evidence of discrimination “

    That was the finding in Griggs vs Duke Power 1973. It wasn’t a White woman who wrote that It was a White Christian man , Chief Justice William Brennan, may he burn in hell forever and ever amen.

    You MEN OF UNZ’s ignoring affirmative action is clear and present evidence that most of the MEN OF UNZ don’t have children. If you had children you would worry about affirmative action instead of the abortions birth control tattoos hair dye sex lives and divorces of of other people you don’t know and will never meet.

    Kim Potter is a police officer because powerful White men made the laws and court rulings that forced the department to hire her.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  410. Alden says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Ask any teacher or school administrator about black women and their kids boys and girls. Dey mammas install toxic masculinity from the time blacks can walk. Always be aggressive always be a bully. Never back down.

    Could be a lifetime of being an aggressive bully towards school teachers, school bus drivers and school security officers conditions black thugs to be aggressive bullies towards police officers. It’s all YT’s fault as usual.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  411. It was just announced that Officer Potter has been charged with second-degree manslaughter by the Dakota County Attorney’s office.

  412. @Joe Stalin

    They shot Chicago’s “Tokyo Joe” Ken Ito three times in the head

  413. @schnellandine

    First, that isn’t a question.

    That would depend on the pitch at the end of the sentence. Perhaps the ? is the commenter’s way of signaling a high-rising terminal. Similar to /sarc.

  414. @Buffalo Joe

    I know you are Joe.

    When you said ‘In my town the speed in front of the HS is 45 mph, turn the corner and it is 15’ that’s how it is at the Clarence HS, hence my asking ‘Clarence?’.

    And thanks, but I’m tired of safety, I want freedom. Enjoy your comments. See ya.

  415. Art Deco says:
    @Alden

    I see you’ve been having some more quality time.

  416. JMcG says:
    @Jiminy

    Her father didn’t make out so well.

  417. Cortes says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Those speed bumps (aka “sleeping policemen”) are very effective in traffic calming. Try speeding down along a series of them and enjoy the visit to the mechanic. Together with road narrowing and breaking up long straight sections with chicanes, their introduction has been helpful in reining in the “boy racers” in residential areas.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  418. AceDeuce says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Thanks. I didn’t mean to be a geography [email protected], or pedantic–I was just confused—then again I usually am. LOL.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  419. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    She is trying to refute the very reasonable hypothesis that women make worse police officers than men by comparing the absolute numbers of men and women cops involved in these sorts of episodes.

    No she wasn’t, she was refuting the very unreasonable attempt to protect women make worse police officers by recourse to isolated incidents such as this.

    This sort of poor mathematical reasoning is precisely what you see from blacks on Twitter and elsewhere who try to refute the reasonable hypothesis that blacks are more violence and crime prone by pointing out absolute numbers for crime stats, rather than rates.

    It’s not poor mathematical reasoning unless there is in fact evidence that women are disproportionately likely to kill suspects, which you only now bothered to provide. By contrast, greater proportional criminality of black men has been exhaustively established as opposed to the preliminary and tentative evidence you cite here.

    Of course, even if it is true that women are disproportionately likely to kill unarmed suspects, one can certainly question what follows from that. You claim that this implies that they are “worse police officers.” Like all subjective evaluations, this implies a value judgment: That police officers who are more likely to shoot unarmed suspects are “worse,” ipso facto, regardless of whether or not the shooting was justified.

    There are numerous problems with this claim. First of all, a police officer is entitled to shoot a suspect I reasonable self-defense. The threshold for reasonable fear will be lower for a woman, and even for a smaller man. That is the suspect’s problem, not the police officer’s. Second, you would have to ascertain that there are no countervailing strengths of women police officers such as ability to establish rapport with witnesses and solve cases, that would negate the claim of male superiority. Third, you would have to show that there is no reasonable, less draconian method to correct this imbalance.

    Of course, I don’t really care much one way or the other. If you want to advocate for banning women from law enforcement roles, you will have set a precedent by which women may likewise exclude men from our turf. If it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  420. Rosie says:
    @Paperback Writer

    None of the sane people here is advocating depriving you of the right to make a living.

    Then why does noone respond to the insane ones, as in comment #13?

    They think that opportunity should be based on merit. This would mean no female firefighters because women are weaker than men.

    No, it wouldn’t. However high you set the standards, a handful of women will be able to meet them, and you can’t deliberately design the test to ensure they cannot.

    There should be no male counselors, because women are more empathetic than men.

    There should be no male teachers, because men are more likely to be pedophiles than women.

    There should be no male taxi drivers, because men are more likely to have fatal car crashes than women.

    How far down this road shall we go?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Paperback Writer
  421. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    There should be no male teachers

    Oh, and pastors, priests, and rabbis should all be women. That would put a stop to these abuse scandals but quick, wouldn’t it? Sure, some of those offenders were gay, but then, how could we know for sure? Better just to exclude men altogether.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  422. vhrm says:
    @Rosie

    Oh, and pastors, priests, and rabbis should all be women. That would put a stop to these abuse scandals but quick, wouldn’t it?

    Heh heh… the female teachers having sex with students has been happening quite regularly:

    e.g.
    https://www.newsherald.com/story/news/2020/05/17/arizona-teacher-to-be-sentenced-for-having-sex-with-13-year-old-she-may-have-been-grooming-another-s/112576380/

    It has been such a thing that there’s even a South Park episode one it:

    Nicceeeee…

    However, i fully support your main point. On sex, like race, there’s a lot of overlap in the abilities of different groups and we should treat people like individuals. If they qualify to the standards for the work then do the work.

    Also, shooting people is a VERY small part of police work all in all and the incidences of shooting unarmed people are even smaller.

    In general, in order to even start arguing for a category based exclusion you’d have to show that the best performing woman performs worse than the worst performing man if all available jobs of that type were filled.

    ( the ship has sailed on the argument that introducing women to a men’s only env. degrades their performance / distracts them / hurts esprit de corps, etc. i mean i think there IS an effect / something lost, but i think letting qualified women participate trumps that. (except that i do support single-sex education to a certain degree) )

    • Replies: @Rosie
  423. AndrewR says:
    @JMcG

    Alden is absolutely insane. She stalks me and accuses me of being a black black supremacist just because I didn’t rush to paint the NFL player massacre in the crudest racial terms.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  424. @Rosie

    Then why does noone respond to the insane ones, as in comment #13?

    We sane people ignore them. Suggest you do the same.

    However high you set the standards, a handful of women will be able to meet them, and you can’t deliberately design the test to ensure they cannot.

    False, and you know it. I’ve come to the conclusion you’re a troll.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  425. Rosie says:
    @Paperback Writer

    False, and you know it.

    True, and I can prove it:

    What sort of fitness test could you devise you exclude this gal?

    I’ve come to the conclusion you’re a troll.

    Like I GAF.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Buffalo Joe
  426. Rosie says:
    @AndrewR

    I didn’t rush to paint the NFL player massacre in the crudest racial terms.

    Lol my achin’ sides! Heaven forbid AndrewR, one of the most hateful misogynists on this site, say something “crude.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  427. Rosie says:
    @vhrm

    ( the ship has sailed on the argument that introducing women to a men’s only env. degrades their performance / distracts them / hurts esprit de corps, etc. i mean i think there IS an effect / something lost, but i think letting qualified women participate trumps that. (except that i do support single-sex education to a certain degree) )

    Philosophers have been debating the question of Individual v. Society since forever. I’m happy to report the dissident right has it all worked out. The answer depends on whether we’re talking about men’s individual rights or women’s individual rights:

    Men’s individual rights > Collective interests of society > Women’s individual rights

  428. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    How much power can you pack into 100 pounds?

    Look at how the male announcers and audience members cheer her on!

  429. AndrewR says:
    @Rosie

    I love women more than your dad loved you. Granted, that’s not saying much

  430. Sean says:
    @Alden

    Wright and his friend strong armed aggravated robbed a woman while criminally trespassing. The MEN OF UNZ must be sooo proud of another man beating and robbing a woman.

    The most masculine men have other ways of getting money out of ladies

    So the 26 year experienced officer intervened

    White woman in her fifth decade (not Chyna) cannot successfully subdue a young half caste who was too much for a large and strong black cop in his physical prime. Shocking ? Not particularly. Someone of her experience ought to have known that the use of weapons would become more likely if she interfered.

  431. @Cortes

    Cortes, the potholes in WNY streets and roads are more effective than speed bumps aka “sleeping policemen.” I was pointing out that they are described as “traffic calming” devices as opposed to something like speed management features…we’re good. stay safe.

  432. @Rosie

    Rosie, excuse my language but, hang a dick on her and I would like to be built like that.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  433. @AceDeuce

    Ace, no offense taken. Must have been a hell of a chase because they had to go back through “Dead Man’s Curve” on the I-90. Who designs an expressway with a 90 degree curve? Stay safe.

  434. @Pericles

    Had the negroe being arrested not decided to attempt an escape, he would still be breathing today.

  435. @Buffalo Joe

    LOL. Now I know Rosie’s a troll, because this one is so predictable. I *knew* s/he’d respond with one of these pictures.

    One, the bodybuilder must be drinking testosterone morning, noon, and night. She’s not really athletic, she’s a fake freak who is good for nothing other than posing. A ballerina is more athletic than she.

    Two, and this is the kicker – any natural born female who is exceptionally athletic would be able to use that in the real world to get more money than a firefighter does, without the risk. Firefighters are chosen from the average population, and there are no women in the average population who can do what a firefighter is called upon to do.

    Joe, really – would you want to look like that? I think most women think this is offputting and excessive. But I get your point.

    I think Rosie may well be the Elena Ferrante of this blog.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  436. Sean says:
    @Alden

    The young black man cop she was training could not get the handcuffs on another young black man. So the 26 year experienced officer intervened to help

    I have actually watched it now. Wright wasn’t putting his hands together to be cuffed, but he was only subtly acting up: he seems to have been clasping one wrist with the other hand. They were very close and the large black cop was behind Wright with no gap between then, so Wright was trapped. The black cop told Wright to stop the wrist trick and cooperate while keeping a left handed grip on Wright’s hand . Potter tried to intervene and touched Wright’s elbow then stuck her hand between Wright and the cop, he realized what she was trying to do and stepped away keeping his grip. When Wright realized the black cop was now standing back at right angles and the woman was leaning in to touch him he stopped clasping his wrist and pivoted round to get in the driver’s seat, breaking the black cop’s grip on Wrights hand. Wright now had both hands free. The black cop ended up facing at right angles to Wright in the driver seat and was trying to grab ahold of him, While that was happening, Potter went round the back of the black cop and made him step aside again, then drew and discharged a firearm. She could very easily have killed the third cop on the passenger side of the car during the incident. Or the black one even.

    Visit California and you’ll see 4 to 6 5’7 Hispanic and Asian men cops questioning a 6’4 270 black man. LAPD doesn’t get out of their cars until 5 or 6 of the Mexican midgets are on the scene. Even if it’s just a homeless acting weird.

    That is an argument for hiring cops by the pound. As appears to be the case with the large black cop who towered over the puny Wright and had him at a disadvantage, until Potter decided to take charge.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  437. Hibernian says:
    @Joe Stalin

    The hitmen loaded their own cartridges to avoid detection. They didn’t put in enough powder. Also, the perps shot Ito in the head at an oblique angle, and he played dead. As for the hardness of his head, I’m not sure. The hitmen were then whacked; I think at least one was tortured, so he would tell the other one’s whereabouts.

  438. Hibernian says:
    @Alden

    If I were her I’d get on a plane to another country…

    Flight to avoid prosecution. That’d ensure the loss of her pension.

  439. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    No she wasn’t, she was refuting the very unreasonable attempt to protect women make worse police officers by recourse to isolated incidents such as this.

    There’s no recourse to isolated incidents like this. Rather this incident is a sensational example illustrating and supporting the preponderance of evidence and real world experience that women make worse police officers than men. Women cops could never shoot a criminal and they would still be worse at enforcing the law against violent male criminals.

    It’s not poor mathematical reasoning unless there is in fact evidence that women are disproportionately likely to kill suspects, which you only now bothered to provide. By contrast, greater proportional criminality of black men has been exhaustively established as opposed to the preliminary and tentative evidence you cite here.

    The evidence provided wasn’t even necessary. It’s just a courtesy. Just as stats and studies aren’t necessary to establish that blacks are more violence and crime prone. People already have plenty of evidence from life experience that women are less able to subdue and enforce the law against physically larger, stronger, faster male criminals, and that blacks are more violence and crime prone.

    Of course, I don’t really care much one way or the other. If you want to advocate for banning women from law enforcement roles, you will have set a precedent by which women may likewise exclude men from our turf. If it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.

    I don’t think most men here would have a problem with banning men from traditionally female roles.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  440. @Sean

    Lots to be said for favoring big strong men in police recruitment. Big Irish cops did a pretty good job of patrolling US city streets in 1900.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  441. Rosie says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Two, and this is the kicker – any natural born female who is exceptionally athletic would be able to use that in the real world to get more money than a firefighter does, without the risk.

    So you admit some women are athletic enough to be firefighters. Good.

    Your claim that they could earn more money doing something else is highly questionable, and you provide no evidence for it.

    If you would just be reasonable rather than a chauvinist douchebag, I think you would find me quite agreeable. I dispute that the overwhelming majority of people who are qualified to be firefighters are male. You should leave it that and shut your mouth.

  442. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    Rather this incident is a sensational example illustrating and supporting the preponderance of evidence and real world experience that women make worse police officers than men.

    You still haven’t provided any evidence to justify this claim.

    People already have plenty of evidence from life experience that women are less able to subdue and enforce the law against physically larger, stronger, faster male criminals,

    That’s only true to the extent that you consider criminals’ right to resist arrest without fatal consequences to be more important than a woman’s right to choose her own profession. You are entitled to that opinion, but you are not entitled to deny that it is anything more than your opinion.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Anonymous
  443. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    BTW, Super Sandy is a PE teacher. I would imagine PE teachers make about the same as firefighters, amirite?

  444. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    I don’t think most men here would have a problem with banning men from traditionally female roles.

    Note the evasion of the question concerning clergy sex abuse scandals.

    BYW, I haven’t been able to dig up the study in that tweet you posted. I’d like to have a closer look at it, but there is no identifying information in the shot you posted.

    • Replies: @vhrm
  445. Rosie says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Big Irish cops did a pretty good job of patrolling US city streets in 1900.

    I suspect their effectiveness was less a function of bigness than support from the community.

    Violent crime had been going down, despite growing numbers of women police officers, until the recent BLM unpleasantness.

    https://www.kuow.org/stories/why-they-left-seattle-police-in-their-own-blistering-words

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Bel Riose
  446. Sean says:
    @Rosie

    No one worries much about violent crime its blacks being shot by the police that creates the crisis.

    But don’t let it be a black and a white one
    Cause they’ll slam ya down to the street top
    Black police showing out for the white cop

    NWA, ‘Fuck The Police’

    There needs to be better pay for recruitment of large blacks males as police. They’ll be more capable of making suspects fear them, less likely to try anything.

  447. Bel Riose says:
    @Rosie

    “I suspect their effectiveness was less a function of bigness than support from the community.”

    You haven’t provided any evidence to justify this claim.

    You are entitled to that opinion, but you are not entitled to deny that it is anything more than your opinion.

    If you would just be reasonable rather than a feminist douchebag, I think you would find the Men of Unz quite agreeable. We contend that the overwhelming majority of people who are qualified to be firefighters are male. You should leave it that and shut your mouth.

    • LOL: photondancer
  448. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    So you admit some women are athletic enough to be firefighters. Good.

    The woman in your video is certainly fit and athletic, but that’s not sufficient to be a fireman.

    Firemen need to be able to carry and handle heavy equipment and bodies, at the same time. They need to be able to generate lots of force. Force is mass times acceleration, so size is a big factor in generating force.

    The woman in the video is fit but is doing bodyweight, calisthenic type movements through a padded agility obstacle course.

    Kids are also very good at this sort of thing, as they tend to be more flexible and agile. They can handle monkey bars and jungle gyms better than many adult men. That doesn’t mean they’d make better firemen than adult men.

  449. vhrm says:
    @Rosie

    Note the evasion of the question concerning clergy sex abuse scandals.

    BYW, I haven’t been able to dig up the study in that tweet you posted. I’d like to have a closer look at it, but there is no identifying information in the shot you posted.

    I believe you’re talking to two different Anons but the paper in the tweet is
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2870189

    “Do white police officers unfairly target black suspects?” by
    – John R. Lott, Jr of Crime Prevention Research Center
    – Carlisle E. Moody of College of William & Mary and the Crime Prevention Research Center
    November 15, 2016

    Also, re clergy sex abuse scandals, as mentioned above, women teachers have sex w/ their students too (both male and female)
    e.g. https://www.newsherald.com/story/news/2020/05/17/arizona-teacher-to-be-sentenced-for-having-sex-with-13-year-old-she-may-have-been-grooming-another-s/112576380/

    (though, het cis homophobe sexist that i am, i think the female teacher -> male student thing, while i’m sure IS damaging abuse sometimes probably mostly isn’t. i suspect it’s prosecuted primarily so that men don’t use the lack of prosecution as an excuse to do the same)

  450. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    You still haven’t provided any evidence to justify this claim.

    Most people already know that in general, men are physically larger, stronger, faster, more coordinated, etc. and thus make better police officers.

    That’s only true to the extent that you consider criminals’ right to resist arrest without fatal consequences to be more important than a woman’s right to choose her own profession.

    The point of law enforcement is the enforcement. If everybody always complied with the law and immediately turned themselves in to the authorities every time they broke the law, we wouldn’t need police officers.

    Criminals also have guns. You’re mistaken if you think women cops’ physical disadvantage can be made up for by being trigger happy when trying to arrest criminals. The criminals will just respond by engaging in shootouts every time they see the police, and men are better at shooting guns than women are. Male cops will be more effective than female cops in shootouts with male criminals.

  451. @Rosie

    “o you admit some women are athletic enough to be firefighters.

    Theoretically. So what?

    Your claim that they could earn more money doing something else is highly questionable, and you provide no evidence for it.

    You just did.

    You should leave it that and shut your mouth.

    Ditto.

  452. @Alden

    It wasn’t Daunte’s car. It was a stolen car hijacked that morning. There aughta be a law.
    Cops can’t stop drivers of stolen vehicles.
    How dare they impose Eurocentric White norms on the sacred black criminals.

    I’d change that to “How dare they impose Eurocentric White *global* norms on the sacred black African American criminals.” Prior to short-lived European rule, African societies tended to treat theft as a capital offense. Shaka Zulu notoriously had cattle thieves trampled to death.

  453. @John Johnson

    Exactly: I have two Glocks so that’s where I was going.

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