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From the New York Times:
Body Believed to Be That of Mollie Tibbetts, Iowa College Student, Is Found
By Christina Caron and Melissa Gomez
Aug. 21, 2018A body believed to be that of Mollie Tibbetts, a 20-year-old student at the University of Iowa who vanished a month ago after going for a jog, was found on Tuesday morning, investigators announced. A 24-year-old resident of rural Poweshiek County has been charged with first-degree murder in the killing.
The body was found in a field southeast of Brooklyn, Iowa. Ms. Tibbetts was last seen nearby on July 18, Rick Rahn, a special agent of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation, said at a news conference.
“The identity has not been confirmed, however, we believe it to be the body of Mollie Tibbetts,” Mr. Rahn said. The authorities did not say what the specific cause of death was; an autopsy is scheduled for Wednesday.
The man charged in the killing is Cristhian
Somebody should do a study of the average number of initial words a typical New York Times subscriber can read in a typical New York Times article without any facts being mentioned that might prove uncomfortable to his/her/their worldview. For example, in this article, if the reader gives up on the story after reading the 155th word — “Cristhian” — he/she/they is going to take away the message:
“The murderer is another homicidal Jesus-loving Republican redneck whose low IQ trailer trash mother couldn’t even spell ‘Christian’ right.”
If you read far enough into New York Times stories, however, usually a fact or two emerges less supportive of the View from Park Slope. For example:
Bahena Rivera, an undocumented immigrant, he said. He said that Mr. Rivera had lived in the area for four to seven years but did not say where he was from.
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Did it strike anyone as odd that before the cops found the murderer, the media kept showing pictures of Mollie with her boyfriend, Dalton Jack? That’s where they wanted the story to go: devious white male pretends he didn’t murder his lover, but he really did. (In fact, I just typed his name from memory because I’d heard it so often.)
That’s what happened in that other case where the guy strangled his wife and two daughters, and the media was pleased. That story will remain huge for months, because the narrative was fulfilled. But poor Mollie had the misfortune of being killed by a member of the kindest, hardest working group of people to ever walk the earth, so she’ll be removed from public view in short order.
Then Jennifer Wilbanks showed up alive. So the narrative had to shift to what a terrible person her fiancé had to be to drive her to fake a kidnapping.
Then it came out Jennifer was as nutty as a peanut patch. So the issue was dropped. The accuse the intimate partner narrative was so blatant in that case that it was the first time I really “noticed” the overt bias around it.
Well, under the Zeroth Amendment as displayed on the Statue of Liberty, everyone is a potential resident of the USA.
Of course, the fact that he chose to illegally enter the US is neither here nor there and borders are actually illegal, at least according to some obscure Buddhist Religious law.
I’ll give it to WaPo, they actually admitted it in the headline. Admittedly, that will probably change.
Breitbart shows how to do it right:
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/21/illegal-alien-charged-with-first-degree-murder-of-mollie-tibbetts/
OT MASSIVE FAILURE
A much bad news has already come put today this is bigger
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DECLINES TO PROSECUTE IMRAN AWAN
Imran Awan was a Pakistani scammer who, in addition to several minor crimes, was the head IT guy for several of the Congressional Democrats including people on important national security committees, and it is known that he was stealing information. He was stopped trying to flee the country.
And apparently all of that is legal.
What is it going to take? Is everyone high?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/21/ex-dem-it-aide-imran-awan-avoids-jail-time-after-attorneys-complain-about-trump.html
The farmer or company that was employing him should be fined into bankruptcy.
And if these people have done some sort of lame ass compliance with the law, then Trump needs to be proposing a law that closes that loophole and puts in mandatory E-verify.
This case is even better--a*hole killed American girl. This is way, way better than the crap the enemy does with this child pulled from its (non) mother. Go full dog and pony. Sue the bastards enabling this. Introduce the legislation that makes it easy for people to go after the bastards employing these people. Demonize the Democrats who oppose it as killer enablers who sacrifice Americans on the alter of open borders.
Make this election--and Trump's re-election--about precisely this immigration issue. Border, security, jobs, wages, housing, affordable family formation, schools, traffic congestion, sprawl, environmental protection, etc. etc. etc.
...Yarrabee Farms co-owner and manager Dane Lang clarified Wednesday afternoon that the farm did not use a federal E-Verify check on suspect Cristhian Rivera, despite the company's claim earlier in the day that it did.
Totally off topic, but I don’t understand the way the US operates at all.
How bad is the situation for Donald Trump? It strikes me that they might have “got him”.
The USA is a strange country far away, but what happens there impacts us directly. His election victory has been more important in NZ than the election of our own PM, Jacinda Ardern who is just another career politician like all the others currently trashing the Western World. She has nothing new to say and has only really done one thing of note, banning sales of real estate to non-Kiwis.
I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.
>nothing happens to Trump but
>Mueller got a tremendous encouragement and will be continuing his fake investigation with more vigor and
>the mass media will all be reporting that Trump is now doomed.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.'
Yeah. However, I suspect they may in fact 'get him.' Pence would probably prove more biddable.
On to Tehran. Our master wishes it.Replies: @Rosie
While I agree that many, if not most, readers of news do not read many, or at least not most, news articles through from start to finish, I do have a somewhat difficult time believing that many, if any, readers of the news actually would stop their reading of a news article in the middle of a murder suspect’s name’s being cited!?!
The judge who let Imran Awan go is a Democrat, an Obama appointee, and very much an iStevey mulatto mafia mess:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_S._Chutkan
If I were his defense attorney I would immediately request a change of venue to San Francisco, where it’s perfectly legal for undocumented dreamers to murder Beckys. Of course San Francisco isnt in Iowa, but I’m sure that judge in Hawaii could find a way to justify it.
How bad is the situation for Donald Trump? It strikes me that they might have "got him".
The USA is a strange country far away, but what happens there impacts us directly. His election victory has been more important in NZ than the election of our own PM, Jacinda Ardern who is just another career politician like all the others currently trashing the Western World. She has nothing new to say and has only really done one thing of note, banning sales of real estate to non-Kiwis.
I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.Replies: @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @istevefan, @candid_observer, @Anon
What happened today was
>nothing happens to Trump but
>Mueller got a tremendous encouragement and will be continuing his fake investigation with more vigor and
>the mass media will all be reporting that Trump is now doomed.
I suggest every time the name Emmitt Till is uttered, 100 people should shout the name MOLLIE TIBBETS. For decades.
RIP Mollie.
She was out having a run near her home when this filthy dirtbag began harassing her. You shouldn't be taking your life in your hands when you go for a nice enjoyable run.Replies: @Boethiuss, @Lowe
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlGBc-UU4AAkHiS.jpgReplies: @eah, @istevefan, @S. Anonyia
How bad is the situation for Donald Trump? It strikes me that they might have "got him".
The USA is a strange country far away, but what happens there impacts us directly. His election victory has been more important in NZ than the election of our own PM, Jacinda Ardern who is just another career politician like all the others currently trashing the Western World. She has nothing new to say and has only really done one thing of note, banning sales of real estate to non-Kiwis.
I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.Replies: @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @istevefan, @candid_observer, @Anon
‘…I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.’
Yeah. However, I suspect they may in fact ‘get him.’ Pence would probably prove more biddable.
On to Tehran. Our master wishes it.
What difference does it make if he is a nonwhite illegal alien or a nonwhite legal immigrant?
Answer:0….unless you believe like Donald Trump does that it is absolutely urgent to legally import nonwhite legal immigrants into America so they can vote Native Born White Americans into a White Racial Foreigner within the borders of America…
Unfortunately her social media shows her to have been a fellow white person. Very sad–all the way around.
That's what happened in that other case where the guy strangled his wife and two daughters, and the media was pleased. That story will remain huge for months, because the narrative was fulfilled. But poor Mollie had the misfortune of being killed by a member of the kindest, hardest working group of people to ever walk the earth, so she'll be removed from public view in short order.Replies: @Barnard, @mmack
Her boyfriend was fortunate to be hundreds of miles away when the murder took place. If he would been staying in the area the FBI would have grilled him for days while completely ignoring any other suspects.
I'm sure they would have gotten a confession.
A group foto of the proud NC statue topplers (rumor is the statue did not put up much resistance) — lots of white kids.
Per a comment at Chateau Heartiste, Molly Tibbetts apparently hated White people. Twitterer Jay Stang noted she got what she wanted, good and hard. Molly Tibbetts tweet
Anyway, now that it's clear she was murdered by a vibrant, diverse POC, we'll soon hear about how there is "no evidence" of any racial motive, as if that makes the victim any less dead.
But obviously she did not "hate white people" and obviously she did not get what she wanted.
By the standards of anyone with any sense, she seems to have been a beautiful and idealistic young woman.
One of the many tragedies here is that so many like her, by which I mean genuinely beautiful and idealistic young women, are brainwashed into thinking that expressing disdain for white people attaches one to some deeper moral truth. At the risk of raising the hackles of some of the more rationalistic readers, I'd say it is pretty damn Satanic.Replies: @Pericles
Let me be clear. I mean that as opposed to the murdered girl having been a white girl who was behaving properly.
However, my thoughts are similar to Sporadic's. Plenty of these young white girls are not nasties. They are simply compliant, compliant to the norms society is giving them. The truly evil people are the ones pushing this ideology, saying "nation of immigrants", "diversity is our strength", "no one is illegal", "abolish ICE" in academia, Hollyweird, in Congress, on the pages of the NYT.
Mollie Tibbetts: “I hate white people!”
https://mobile.twitter.com/motibbs/status/940792919266680833
Apparently, this woman is minding her own business, house sitting for her boyfriend and going out for a jog in the neighborhood. The illegal immigrant somehow sees her on the road parks his car and starts to run with her. Somehow the murder ensues.
There is no good answer. Either she was being stalked, or the perpetrator had some other prior acquaintance with her, or he didn't and just happened to see her to commit a crime of opportunity in f****ng Brooklyn, Iowa.Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
Probably a hog farm based on location. But I agree.
OT It wasn’t all bad news today.
https://twitter.com/CatlinNyaa/status/1031951136415260678
Homer Hickam, son of a West Virginia coal miner, American author, Vietnam veteran (6 years Army Officer), and a former NASA engineer. His 1998 memoir Rocket Boys (also published as October Sky) was a New York Times Best Seller and was the basis for the 1999 film October Sky depicting his life as a coal miner's son who was inspired by the launch of Sputnik 1 in 1957 to take up rocketry against his father's wishes and eventually become a NASA engineer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eXPBhy7i10Replies: @J.Ross
The propaganda with young people these days is total. She’s murdered because of it.
But the Washington Post “fact-checker” told me that Trump’s portrayal of illegals from Mexico is “false.” I’m sure they’ll be sending a reporter right over to Mollie Tibbetts’s family to tell them “the facts” about illegals, and how Trump has been lying to them…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.46a5f5a7cda2
For example, they tell us building a wall won't work because it will not keep out 100 percent of everyone who ever tries to cross the border. Hence, it is judged a failure and we mustn't countenance it.
On the other hand if the democrats push a program like Head Start that is clearly far from perfect, it must be failing because it wasn't properly funded, and thus it gets more money and continues.
Now when Trump states they are not sending their best, but rather they are sending rapists, murderers, etc., the media will consider that false if 100 percent of the Mexican immigrants are not actual rapists, murderers etc. Trump never meant to imply 100 percent of Mexican border crossers were hardcore felons. But since there are obviously quite a bit of nonviolent ones, Trump must be completely wrong.
Meanwhile Hillary called every Trump voter a deplorable and the media did not do a "fact-check" to set the record straight.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
A massive civil suit against whatever company or companies employed Bahena Rivera would be a good place to start, assuming he hadn’t been issued one of Obama’s Invade the USA Freely cards.
Why doesn't the government prosecute the employers and send them to federal prison. That would stop illegal immigration!
Of course there is a shortage of cheap labor after the baby boomer generation women aborted half of an entire generation of American children.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2018/05/10/mount-pleasant-iowa-immigration-raid-ice-concrete-factory-arrests-illegal/598404002/
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/public-safety/ice-raids-mpc-enterprises-in-mount-pleasant-20180509
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2018/06/27/iowa-ice-mount-pleasant-immigration-postville-customs-enforcement-mount-eldora-hardin-county-crime/739326002/
A much bad news has already come put today this is bigger
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DECLINES TO PROSECUTE IMRAN AWAN
Imran Awan was a Pakistani scammer who, in addition to several minor crimes, was the head IT guy for several of the Congressional Democrats including people on important national security committees, and it is known that he was stealing information. He was stopped trying to flee the country.
And apparently all of that is legal.
What is it going to take? Is everyone high?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/21/ex-dem-it-aide-imran-awan-avoids-jail-time-after-attorneys-complain-about-trump.htmlReplies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Lars Porsena
The Jeff Sessions Justice Department is the enemy of the American people.
Reading to the 155th word? Surely you joke. What NYT subscriber and resident of the upper west side read past the second sentence:
Or possible titillated by the next sentence, went a little further.
But seriously, readers of the NYT wouldn’t know whether the coed victim’s school was located in Ames or Cedar Rapids–much less where Brooklyn, Iowa is located.
As there’s not a great white defendant to obsess over, the point of the article is to obscure the inconvenient fact of the perpetrator with a barrage of details that serve to trivialize the crime.
How bad is the situation for Donald Trump? It strikes me that they might have "got him".
The USA is a strange country far away, but what happens there impacts us directly. His election victory has been more important in NZ than the election of our own PM, Jacinda Ardern who is just another career politician like all the others currently trashing the Western World. She has nothing new to say and has only really done one thing of note, banning sales of real estate to non-Kiwis.
I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.Replies: @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @istevefan, @candid_observer, @Anon
You underestimate Trump. He is the President. They have not “got him.”
For we have got
Donald Trump
And they have not!
https://twitter.com/CatlinNyaa/status/1031951136415260678Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @CCZ
God bless you J. Ross – this makes my day!
We really should start calling the “reporters/journolisters” what they really are : obfuscationists.
Mueller will almost certainly indict and perp walk Trump. That’s how the elite operate.
Get ready for a President Maxine Waters. Whitey outlawed 1 … 2 … 3.
We have a South African not Brazilian future.
Subtlety and irony, son. They can be used as humorous devices.
RIP Mollie.Replies: @Danindc, @Father O'Hara
I’ve been going with Channon Christian for the last few years.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlGBc-UU4AAkHiS.jpgReplies: @eah, @istevefan, @S. Anonyia
I like the H G Wells story The Time Machine — also Rod Taylor as an actor so that movie version too — but now I see Wells did not have to go so far into the future to find the Eloi (think Camp of the Saints here too).
The FBI would have pinned it on the innocent boyfriend – even if they knew the illegal was responsible. One problem is the illegals. The bigger problem is the enablers of the illegals. Is the FBI on our side? I would not bet on it.
I guess her killer wasn’t impressed.
Anyway, now that it’s clear she was murdered by a vibrant, diverse POC, we’ll soon hear about how there is “no evidence” of any racial motive, as if that makes the victim any less dead.
Dead white Beckys es quien nosotros es!
Steve, it’s time to start taking seriously the possibility that the NYT is trolling you.
The Washington Post – the perfect confluence of dishonesty, sophistry and villainy producing propaganda for the likes of TD and Corvinus.
Would that a greater good could come of her murder, even though it’s too late for her.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.'
Yeah. However, I suspect they may in fact 'get him.' Pence would probably prove more biddable.
On to Tehran. Our master wishes it.Replies: @Rosie
Trump is going to have to deal with the Press. Couldn’t he engineer some kind of hostile takeover of CNN or something? Desperate times call for desperate measures.
To all of the white people here who will say….An Illegal Mexican did this. Of course! No way it could have been a white man!
Just wanted to drop this here link of a white man taping and killing a Japanese woman in the very low crime country of Japan.
See! White Americans kill Japanese women all the time, so why should there be this hysteria over a brown guy killing a white girl?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5433455/American-tourist-26-suspected-Japanese-womans-murder.html
In your glee to disparage whites, you abase yourself like a typical cuck. Try harder next time...
One murder of a Japanese woman by a Russian-born American=White Americans killing Japanese women all the time? You're not even really trying.
"Bayraktar, who calls himself Jake, was born in Russia and moved to the US aged 9."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5460117/Pictured-tourist-decapitated-Tinder-date-Japan.html
Since I don't approve of whites making anti-white statements or people hooking up with strangers they meet online, I am not hysterical over either murder. I do think these two savages should be executed, though.
Cue video of the insufferable Peter Strzok fagsmirking at the House committee.
She’s a Coudenhove-Kalergi poster child.
Welp…ya boy Pete hit the big time today… A dinner party ! Is this the kudlow from coke rehab at bear stearns ? Id always thought Brimelow abstemious.
Eloi gonna Eloi!
was this guy a DREAMer?
either way, starting to get restless with trump.
Get ready for a President Maxine Waters. Whitey outlawed 1 ... 2 ... 3.
We have a South African not Brazilian future.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lowe, @Charles Erwin Wilson
If Trump countered with a reverse Seven Days in May, would conservatives support him, or stare numbly at their screens between low mumbles of, “muh principles, muh Constitution?”
A much bad news has already come put today this is bigger
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DECLINES TO PROSECUTE IMRAN AWAN
Imran Awan was a Pakistani scammer who, in addition to several minor crimes, was the head IT guy for several of the Congressional Democrats including people on important national security committees, and it is known that he was stealing information. He was stopped trying to flee the country.
And apparently all of that is legal.
What is it going to take? Is everyone high?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/21/ex-dem-it-aide-imran-awan-avoids-jail-time-after-attorneys-complain-about-trump.htmlReplies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Lars Porsena
That is truly bizarre.
https://twitter.com/CatlinNyaa/status/1031951136415260678Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @CCZ
Unfortunately the NASA honcho has since apologized for punching down and says he’s going to get her an even better internship than the one she had. Did you really expect otherwise??
How I hate clownworld.
Yeah, after seeing the news about Mollie Tibbetts I went over to the NYT homepage to see how prominently the story was featured. It was on the main page, but just about at the bottom, as a secondary story under a secondary heading for USA-specific news articles. And the headline of course was just that ‘a body believed to be that of Mollie Tibbetts has been found’; nothing about the killer.
Steve, you’ve got this one nailed: the NYT’s absolute mastery of narrative maintenance is encapsulated in the phrase ‘resident of rural Poweshiek County’.
That ‘rural’ is all the average NYT reader needs to know.
Yeah, whether it’s a result of Steve’s influence or not, I just noticed that he part about being an undocumented immigrant is now on the 2nd sentence of the story.
RIP Mollie.Replies: @Danindc, @Father O'Hara
The name SHOULD be a battlecry ; most likely she’ll be forgotten quickly.
She was out having a run near her home when this filthy dirtbag began harassing her. You shouldn’t be taking your life in your hands when you go for a nice enjoyable run.
This illegal immigrant thing, or "I hate white people", whatever, all this might be more closely related to the crime that we've been told so far.Replies: @bj
Get ready for a President Maxine Waters. Whitey outlawed 1 ... 2 ... 3.
We have a South African not Brazilian future.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lowe, @Charles Erwin Wilson
None of that is going to happen. You sound like a nut.
WSJ and Fox – Illegal
Times, CNN -undocumented
At 24, if he has been here 7 years, doesn’t that make him a Valedictorian DREAMER?
Valedictorian DREAMERS are entitled to kill Beckies aren’t they? Isn’t that who we are now? And besides, other news outlets shared the fact that she threatened to call the cops on our hero for stalking her – that’s why he says he murdered her.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/2018/08/21/mollie-tibbetts-found-dead-missing-iowa-student-search-brooklyn-update-latest-girl-facebook-reddit/1050165002/
I think we should file this one under Trump’s Luck
And a double propaganda win because of her vicious anti-White tweets
Sad to think for the family to have to lose her twice
The nyt died long ago.
Needs to be taken off life support.
Like Sharon.
How bad is the situation for Donald Trump? It strikes me that they might have "got him".
The USA is a strange country far away, but what happens there impacts us directly. His election victory has been more important in NZ than the election of our own PM, Jacinda Ardern who is just another career politician like all the others currently trashing the Western World. She has nothing new to say and has only really done one thing of note, banning sales of real estate to non-Kiwis.
I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.Replies: @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @istevefan, @candid_observer, @Anon
A couple of things to keep in mind about this current episode in US politics:
1) Manafort was found guilty on items totally unrelated to Trump and the 2016 campaign. This whole investigation was started to prove “Russian” collusion. So far that is not even on the radar screen.
2) The Cohen guilty plea today is still small potatoes. Maybe it was some kind of campaign finance violation. But once again it had nothing to do with the original purpose of the special council.
If you examine any presidential candidate, winner or loser, under a similar microscope you will find campaign finance violations too. There is no way a candidate raises a billion dollars for an election without some of it being dirty.
For example, an American can give $2700 per year to an individual candidate. But some rich guys will give their kids or employees another $2700 so that the kid or employee will immediately turn around and donate to the preferred candidate. That is a violation and it most certainly happens. If you have the resources to scour over a candidate, you will probably find such violations.
3) The 3rd week of August of an election year is the “Bermuda Triangle” of political news. Some people are on vacation. Others are sending their kids back to school. Outside of people on blogs like this, no one is thinking politics. So no one is going to care in November what has taken place this week.
Usually in US politics you like to drop the “October Surprise” on your opponent when you are 2 weeks or so away from the election. People are paying attention then and the opponent might not have enough time to defend himself. If this is all Mueller has, then he has shot his wad prematurely.
4) Of course they could still have the real Russia collusion stuff, but are just waiting to unload it in October. But it doesn’t appear that is the case. Mueller had to get something and maybe this is the extent to what he will get. It would have been humiliating for Mueller to be given a multi-million dollar budget and almost two years to come up with nothing.
Highlighting illegal aliens’ crimes is great for everyone but most Americans. R/w grifters get page views, r/w leaders get to posture, and l/w leaders can then posture to their base. It’s good for grifters, but bad for the USA.
It’s good and necessary to point out facts, but if the goal is stopping amnesty harping on illegal aliens’ crimes obviously does not work. The push for amnesty continues despite Trump, Breitbart, Sailer, etc. etc. harping on it.
In fact, Trump and others harp on illegal aliens’ crimes in order to get amnesty. Those on left end of the curve only hear the “secure the border” part, they don’t hear the “immigration reform” aka amnesty part. They aren’t exactly reliable: they thought for years that Trump was against amnesty until he repeatedly removed all doubt.
The solution to these problems is to finally make arguments that undercut Dem leaders to their base, not just arguments that are good for page views. Trump, Breitbart, this site, etc. never make those arguments because their goal isn’t to stop amnesty, it’s just to increase their page views.
Obviously it’s not going to change anything for Miss Tibbetts, but it would be useful to know the whys and wherefores of this incident and I hope we find out.
Apparently, this woman is minding her own business, house sitting for her boyfriend and going out for a jog in the neighborhood. The illegal immigrant somehow sees her on the road parks his car and starts to run with her. Somehow the murder ensues.
There is no good answer. Either she was being stalked, or the perpetrator had some other prior acquaintance with her, or he didn’t and just happened to see her to commit a crime of opportunity in f****ng Brooklyn, Iowa.
How bad is the situation for Donald Trump? It strikes me that they might have "got him".
The USA is a strange country far away, but what happens there impacts us directly. His election victory has been more important in NZ than the election of our own PM, Jacinda Ardern who is just another career politician like all the others currently trashing the Western World. She has nothing new to say and has only really done one thing of note, banning sales of real estate to non-Kiwis.
I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.Replies: @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @istevefan, @candid_observer, @Anon
Most likely, this thing will backfire on the Dems.
A BS charge against Trump on campaign financing irregularities almost certainly wouldn’t hold up in court, if he were actually indicted on it — which, as sitting President, he surely would not be.
If it’s used as a basis for impeachment, then it will fall way short of “high crimes and misdemeanors”, and will go nowhere in the Senate.
But the problem for the Dems is that they are going to be pushed into supporting impeachment by their rabid base. But most voters will find the prospect of impeachment absurd and destructive under the circumstances. That’s what most thought of Bill Clinton’s impeachment, and he had much more serious charges against him.
I’m sure most Dems running for Congress don’t want to have a push for impeachment hanging over them. That’s why they’ve backed far off from it to date.
But, again, now they may be forced into it, over a nothingburger “offense”.
Given the dynamics, this development, somewhat paradoxically, may well favor the Republicans. Overreaching does stuff like that.
Wow.
Thanks.
Rule of thumb with NY Times articles: the most important info is usually buried in paragraph 31.
Daily Mail tweet has the correct spin.
Mollie Tibbetts voiced a few leftist opinions, but her twitter feed doesn’t seem to have been overrun with them. She was a TEENAGER, and voicing all the leftwing nonsense we’ve come to expect from that demographic. But she was still a teenager – a white girl from Iowa, attending college in Iowa, apparently raised in a religious home and dating a white guy. What are the odds she would have eventually come to her senses, had she not been mugged…no, raped and murdered…by reality? Probably better than 50%, especially with so much of the country shifting in that direction. She was not a hardened, hateful leftist getting what she wanted good and hard. By no means did she deserve her fate.
I don't believe anyone is implying she deserved to be murdered by an illegal Mestizo - quite the contrary. My personal comment was written with great bitterness - that a lovely, young White woman was raised in what should have been a safe, wholesome, middle-American environment, yet the (((cultural marxists))) still managed to infect her with ethnomasochism, and she ended up dead at the hands of a misbegotten piece of semi-human filth.
Almost no one deserves their fate though.
She was out having a run near her home when this filthy dirtbag began harassing her. You shouldn't be taking your life in your hands when you go for a nice enjoyable run.Replies: @Boethiuss, @Lowe
Yeah, if in fact it happened that way. I don’t know of course, but for now I don’t believe it. Get out your google maps and look at the streets she was running down. An illegal immigrant, or anybody really, is somehow randomly hanging out there? No. He knew who he was looking for.
This illegal immigrant thing, or “I hate white people”, whatever, all this might be more closely related to the crime that we’ve been told so far.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/cristhian-rivera-christian-social-media-facebook/
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/us/unc-silent-sam-confederate-statue/index.html
Here’s a facebook page featuring the perp and his gun collection.
He is probably a cartel meth dealer, if the guns are his.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/cristhian-rivera-christian-social-media-facebook/
https://twitter.com/CatlinNyaa/status/1031951136415260678Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Anonymous, @CCZ
He displayed tons more grace than she did, but he comes from and represents a very different culture.
Homer Hickam, son of a West Virginia coal miner, American author, Vietnam veteran (6 years Army Officer), and a former NASA engineer. His 1998 memoir Rocket Boys (also published as October Sky) was a New York Times Best Seller and was the basis for the 1999 film October Sky depicting his life as a coal miner’s son who was inspired by the launch of Sputnik 1 in 1957 to take up rocketry against his father’s wishes and eventually become a NASA engineer.
The NYTimes has updated the article so that it now says “undocumented immigrant” in the first paragraph.
This illegal immigrant thing, or "I hate white people", whatever, all this might be more closely related to the crime that we've been told so far.Replies: @bj
The perps baby momma knew Mollie.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/cristhian-rivera-christian-social-media-facebook/
Ha, ha, ha. This brings up a point I made about a year ago…
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I’m really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by “ordinary” I’m excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone’s paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We’re almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can’t quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can’t find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn’t the whole issue pretty ridiculous?…
We have seen your kind before. You had your way in Russia and in China. And now you want to have your way in America?
Who are you? Because when I read your response, I am pretty sure that you and the goat head on your mantle have been speaking again.
There should be zero murders in America perpetrated by illegal aliens. If you don't know this you don't belong here.
Would you sing the same pathetic tune if it were your child killed by a person who should not be here?Replies: @Wilkey
Killer Desemaret was illegal immigrant from Haiti, in-and-out of mental health system. Victim was a police officer, trying to calm the agitated killer down, when Desemaret grabbed the officer's gun and shot him in the head.
https://www.news-press.com/story/news/2018/07/28/fort-myers-florida-police-officer-dies-gun-shot-wound/857332002/
REPLYAGREE/DISAGREE/ETC. THIS COMMENTER THIS THREAD HIDE THREAD
D. K. says:November 11, 2017 at 2:18 pm GMTFrom the Wikipedia.org entry on MS-13:“According to New York’s 2nd district representative Peter King[,] MS-13 were responsible for 17 murders between January 2016 and April 2016 in Long Island.[31]”Would you care to amend your comment, at all, Mr. Unz?• Replies: @iffen
REPLYAGREE/DISAGREE/ETC. THIS COMMENTER THIS THREAD HIDE THREAD ***Oddly enough, Mr. Unz, you contributed no further to that particular comment thread."Is a puzzlement!" --Yul Brynner qua 'King Mongkut of Siam' in "The King and I" (1956)
ok separate out the negroes killing each other and the illegals wetbacks randomly killing white/black Americans and let us have that discussion.
But on a different note, has anyone every tried to analyze murder stats by dividing them into domestic vs criminal/criminal vs random? I suspect that the lines are not always clear. If a woman at first engages sympathetically with a guy who later murders her, is that "domestic"? If a guy shows some interest in criminal activity, but then withdraws after he has seen "too much" and gets punished, is that criminal on criminal? I do suspect that if you draw the lines widely, then the number of "random" murder victims (including workplace killings, etc.) is a small portion of the whole.
Ronny defends killer illegal alien Mexicans but can't defend his own race.
What self-hate hath wrought.
This increases deaths from alcoholism, opiates, crime, drunk driving, and the whole spectrum of medical problems. The cumulative effect of all that extra death and suffering, summed over the US population, is presumably a lot more than "ten whites each year".The other point of these murder stories is that these losses were preventable, by having a sane policy on borders and immigration.
"As many as 7,500 Americans -- 20 per day -- are killed annually by unlicensed drivers, and Rosenberg calculates that more than half are the victims of illegal immigrants."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/30/dad-turns-grief-from-sons-death-into-quest-to-tabulate-toll-illegal-drivers.html
10 per day adds up, especially over a decade. I'm assuming that most of the impaired illegal immigrants are Hispanic.
If the illegals were all MS-13 gangbangers the right's struggle would be much easier. The reaction would be hard and complete. Instead they are fairly peaceable and largely hard-working. That makes them infinitely more dangerous. As may be expected Hispanics (citizen, immigrant, illegal, whatever) may be expected vote in tribal patterns, with a high degree of support for the Democrats, a pattern that in whites would be (and is) regarded as some sort of vile nazi/racist aggression (hence the late Ms. Tibbetts disdain for white people). If they left gets enough, they seize power. If they have the power, the leftist paradise will fall into the usual chaotic struggle, which only a dictator can resolve. Cromwell, Napoleon, Stalin, that's the way to rack up real death tolls.
I think the Flight 93 Election essay was a tremendous eye-opener for me. But it was dialectic that sways the intellect. A dead girl in a ditch is rhetoric, that moves emotions.
We live in an emotional world and always have.Replies: @Ron Unz
I don’t know what to call this observation, but I’ve observed over the years that any policy we push, or any statement we make must be 100 percent correct, else it is either a policy failure or a false statement. The democrats are obviously not held to that standard.
For example, they tell us building a wall won’t work because it will not keep out 100 percent of everyone who ever tries to cross the border. Hence, it is judged a failure and we mustn’t countenance it.
On the other hand if the democrats push a program like Head Start that is clearly far from perfect, it must be failing because it wasn’t properly funded, and thus it gets more money and continues.
Now when Trump states they are not sending their best, but rather they are sending rapists, murderers, etc., the media will consider that false if 100 percent of the Mexican immigrants are not actual rapists, murderers etc. Trump never meant to imply 100 percent of Mexican border crossers were hardcore felons. But since there are obviously quite a bit of nonviolent ones, Trump must be completely wrong.
Meanwhile Hillary called every Trump voter a deplorable and the media did not do a “fact-check” to set the record straight.
Thanks.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
What about other causes of death besides murder? I seem to hear more about Americans of all stripes being killed by illegals driving poorly or drunk.
And Jeff Sessions is, in the mind of John Derbyshire, the shining light of this administration. John, I don’t get it.
Thanks.
Here’s a screenshot I took of the original version, with the original placement of “undocumented” highlighted in blue:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlGBc-UU4AAkHiS.jpgReplies: @eah, @istevefan, @S. Anonyia
Correction: Lots of white trash.
Get ready for a President Maxine Waters. Whitey outlawed 1 ... 2 ... 3.
We have a South African not Brazilian future.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Lowe, @Charles Erwin Wilson
No, no and no. You are pretending that Trump is nothing more that a reality-TV star. Trump is the President. And Trump is not stupid.
@59 Wilkey: ” She was not a hardened, hateful leftist getting what she wanted good and hard. By no means did she deserve her fate.”
I don’t believe anyone is implying she deserved to be murdered by an illegal Mestizo – quite the contrary. My personal comment was written with great bitterness – that a lovely, young White woman was raised in what should have been a safe, wholesome, middle-American environment, yet the (((cultural marxists))) still managed to infect her with ethnomasochism, and she ended up dead at the hands of a misbegotten piece of semi-human filth.
Apparently, this woman is minding her own business, house sitting for her boyfriend and going out for a jog in the neighborhood. The illegal immigrant somehow sees her on the road parks his car and starts to run with her. Somehow the murder ensues.
There is no good answer. Either she was being stalked, or the perpetrator had some other prior acquaintance with her, or he didn't and just happened to see her to commit a crime of opportunity in f****ng Brooklyn, Iowa.Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
Even if she actually did hate white people, she did not deserve to be murdered by an illegal alien.
But how?? We still don't know the important hows and whys of this whole thing. Like Steve talks about how the NTSB investigates plane crashes, therefore it is important that the NTSB is organizationally independent of the FAA, which regulates air traffic.
What was the prior acquaintance of those two people. Was it in person, online, both, neither? Was it personal, SJW-hobby related, career related?
This is obviously a very bad thing morally and shouldn't have happened. But beyond that, it's also a horrible thing logistically. People like Bahena Rivera should never be alone with Mollie Tibbetts, should never even know who Mollie Tibbetts is, while she's minding her own business in Brooklyn, Iowa, and if that's not the case, there's some important things we have to figure out and make adjustments to.
She was out having a run near her home when this filthy dirtbag began harassing her. You shouldn't be taking your life in your hands when you go for a nice enjoyable run.Replies: @Boethiuss, @Lowe
How about when you go for any other kind of run, than a nice, enjoyable one?
For example, they tell us building a wall won't work because it will not keep out 100 percent of everyone who ever tries to cross the border. Hence, it is judged a failure and we mustn't countenance it.
On the other hand if the democrats push a program like Head Start that is clearly far from perfect, it must be failing because it wasn't properly funded, and thus it gets more money and continues.
Now when Trump states they are not sending their best, but rather they are sending rapists, murderers, etc., the media will consider that false if 100 percent of the Mexican immigrants are not actual rapists, murderers etc. Trump never meant to imply 100 percent of Mexican border crossers were hardcore felons. But since there are obviously quite a bit of nonviolent ones, Trump must be completely wrong.
Meanwhile Hillary called every Trump voter a deplorable and the media did not do a "fact-check" to set the record straight.Replies: @Harry Baldwin
Meanwhile Hillary called every Trump voter a deplorable and the media did not do a “fact-check” to set the record straight.
FACT CHECK: Hillary described half of Trump’s voters as “a basket of deplorables,” not every one.
A teenager of 21 years old?
She turned 20 on May 8. Most or even all of the Tweets she wrote that people are citing were written before May 8. So yes, a teenager.
There is something to be said about the contradiction between her political opinions and who actually murdered her, but she just was a young woman still learning about life who still clung to the blame whitey beliefs the MSM and the education establishment encouraged her - you might say brainwashed her - into believing. If some hardcore 40 y.o. open borders shill had been raped and murdered by an illegal I'd feel no small amount of schadenfreude. But Mollie was a completely innocent victim.Replies: @BB753
She was born May '98.
https://twitter.com/josey_jewell/status/1021035443956174849/photo/1
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
So, Ron Unz, how many whites is the acceptable threshold to you? One clearly is not enough to satisfy your bloodlust. And 10 must not be either. Is it 10,000 or 10 million?
We have seen your kind before. You had your way in Russia and in China. And now you want to have your way in America?
Who are you? Because when I read your response, I am pretty sure that you and the goat head on your mantle have been speaking again.
There should be zero murders in America perpetrated by illegal aliens. If you don’t know this you don’t belong here.
Amen. She was 20. She didn’t deserve this.
The church sponsors illegals in Iowa. They get arrested and the court date is far in the future, so they are now legal to work and live in the USA until the court date.
Why doesn’t the government prosecute the employers and send them to federal prison. That would stop illegal immigration!
Of course there is a shortage of cheap labor after the baby boomer generation women aborted half of an entire generation of American children.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2018/05/10/mount-pleasant-iowa-immigration-raid-ice-concrete-factory-arrests-illegal/598404002/
https://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/public-safety/ice-raids-mpc-enterprises-in-mount-pleasant-20180509
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2018/06/27/iowa-ice-mount-pleasant-immigration-postville-customs-enforcement-mount-eldora-hardin-county-crime/739326002/
To paraphrase Churchill, Jeff Sessions is a sheep in sheep’s clothing.
Agree.
Park Slope is due for a name change. It’s insulting to Asians, particularly Koreans, half of whom are named Park.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
One murder is a tragedy but 10 is a statistic, right?
Would you sing the same pathetic tune if it were your child killed by a person who should not be here?
This exactly. Yes, Mollie's murderer could have just as easily been a white redneck from Iowa, so some people argue that illegal immigration has nothing to do with it. Plenty of young white women who are murdered are murdered by white guys. But Mollie's murderer was a man who came into our country without permission from the American people and took whatever he wanted, including the life of a young American woman in order to (presumably) satisfy his sexual desire. That is the mark not of an immigrant, but of an invader. That's why it matters that her murderer was an illegal.
The other half are married to them.
The cop at the press conference at least used the term “illegal alien.”
Although illegal aliens and immigrants prefer urban areas, this shows that they are even invading rural regions.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
No murder is ‘very mundane’.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
Uh yeah Ron, what do you think the media coverage in Mexico looks like when a gringo gets into a drunk driving accident and kills a Mexican?
Homer Hickam, son of a West Virginia coal miner, American author, Vietnam veteran (6 years Army Officer), and a former NASA engineer. His 1998 memoir Rocket Boys (also published as October Sky) was a New York Times Best Seller and was the basis for the 1999 film October Sky depicting his life as a coal miner's son who was inspired by the launch of Sputnik 1 in 1957 to take up rocketry against his father's wishes and eventually become a NASA engineer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eXPBhy7i10Replies: @J.Ross
You’d think somebody excited about a NASA internship would know who he is.
I understand the cynical reactions of some people.
But obviously she did not “hate white people” and obviously she did not get what she wanted.
By the standards of anyone with any sense, she seems to have been a beautiful and idealistic young woman.
One of the many tragedies here is that so many like her, by which I mean genuinely beautiful and idealistic young women, are brainwashed into thinking that expressing disdain for white people attaches one to some deeper moral truth. At the risk of raising the hackles of some of the more rationalistic readers, I’d say it is pretty damn Satanic.
How bad is the situation for Donald Trump? It strikes me that they might have "got him".
The USA is a strange country far away, but what happens there impacts us directly. His election victory has been more important in NZ than the election of our own PM, Jacinda Ardern who is just another career politician like all the others currently trashing the Western World. She has nothing new to say and has only really done one thing of note, banning sales of real estate to non-Kiwis.
I am praying for the Donald not to be overthrown.
He is winning and the Zeitgeist is changing. The non-stop screaming of the swamp creatures is proof of that.Replies: @J.Ross, @Colin Wright, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @istevefan, @candid_observer, @Anon
Manafort isn’t talking about Trump at all to Mueller, conviction or no conviction, and I doubt Cohen will either. Cohen plea-bargained very fast after getting caught to give himself the lightest penalty possible.
The one thing both these guys remember is that Trump, as president, has the power to pardon them. If they try to talk to Mueller to set up Trump for a fall, there will be no pardon from an irate Trump, and Pence won’t give them a pardon because he doesn’t care about them. They’re not Pence’s own guys. The situation will only go well for them if they keep their mouths shut, and they know it.
All Trump has to do it wait until after midterms are over to pardon them. It’s two long years to the next election, and the issues that sunk Cohen and Manafort don’t matter much to the average American, who is sick of all this talk about Russia, Russia, Russia.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
Lightning is not something that we can control. Choosing to make no effort whatsoever to perform the duties of government while still expecting taxes to be paid is something that is completely controllable.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
Classy.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
Here’s another recent one that (AFAIK) did not receive any national attention:
Killer Desemaret was illegal immigrant from Haiti, in-and-out of mental health system. Victim was a police officer, trying to calm the agitated killer down, when Desemaret grabbed the officer’s gun and shot him in the head.
https://www.news-press.com/story/news/2018/07/28/fort-myers-florida-police-officer-dies-gun-shot-wound/857332002/
Yeah, yeah, yeat, got it, got it.
But how?? We still don’t know the important hows and whys of this whole thing. Like Steve talks about how the NTSB investigates plane crashes, therefore it is important that the NTSB is organizationally independent of the FAA, which regulates air traffic.
What was the prior acquaintance of those two people. Was it in person, online, both, neither? Was it personal, SJW-hobby related, career related?
This is obviously a very bad thing morally and shouldn’t have happened. But beyond that, it’s also a horrible thing logistically. People like Bahena Rivera should never be alone with Mollie Tibbetts, should never even know who Mollie Tibbetts is, while she’s minding her own business in Brooklyn, Iowa, and if that’s not the case, there’s some important things we have to figure out and make adjustments to.
“A teenager of 21 years old?”
She turned 20 on May 8. Most or even all of the Tweets she wrote that people are citing were written before May 8. So yes, a teenager.
There is something to be said about the contradiction between her political opinions and who actually murdered her, but she just was a young woman still learning about life who still clung to the blame whitey beliefs the MSM and the education establishment encouraged her – you might say brainwashed her – into believing. If some hardcore 40 y.o. open borders shill had been raped and murdered by an illegal I’d feel no small amount of schadenfreude. But Mollie was a completely innocent victim.
Unfortunately, college brainwashing usually lasts a lifetime, the same as college debt! Many older women keep the same liberal open borders mentality throughout their whole life. With Mollie Tibbets we will never know.
As always, my advice for parents remains the same: don't send your daughters to college!
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
Why does someone– let alone someone who publicly proclaims that he has an IQ of over 200!– lie so blithely, when the actual record of what he actually claimed, just late last year, is actually still there, so that anyone who is actually interested may actually track down, and then actually display, for all the world to see, the actual proof that the man now is actually lying about what he actually claimed, just late last year?
“Lord only knows…,” and He ain’t talkin’!
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Ron Unz says:
November 11, 2017 at 2:01 pm GMT • 200 Words
Well, I didn’t pay much attention to the VA election, but near the end the newspapers and the web were filled with stories about the extremely “racially divisive” TV commercials both for and against Gillespie…
Apparently, his campaign ran commercials on the terrible, deadly threat from the Salvadoran M-13 gang, and implied that his opponent was soft on them.
Not long afterwards, some Democratic group ran a commercial on the terrible, deadly threat from the KKK, and implied that Gillespie was soft on them.
Over the last decade, I think there have been close to 200,000 murders across America. I’d be surprised if even 20 of them were committed by M-13 members, and I’d guess that the body-count due to members of the KKK/Neo-Nazis/Skinheads was roughly in the same range.
So the Republicans accused the Democrats of being Martians, and the Democrats accused the Republicans of being Venusians. Politics as usual in America these days….
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D. K. says:
November 11, 2017 at 2:18 pm GMT
From the Wikipedia.org entry on MS-13:
“According to New York’s 2nd district representative Peter King[,] MS-13 were responsible for 17 murders between January 2016 and April 2016 in Long Island.[31]”
Would you care to amend your comment, at all, Mr. Unz?
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Oddly enough, Mr. Unz, you contributed no further to that particular comment thread.
“Is a puzzlement!” –Yul Brynner qua ‘King Mongkut of Siam’ in “The King and I” (1956)
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
“There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders.”
ok separate out the negroes killing each other and the illegals wetbacks randomly killing white/black Americans and let us have that discussion.
Rhinos love cheap labor……
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/21/missing-university-of-iowa-student-mollie-tibbetts-was-murdered-by-an-illegal-alien/#more-153131
John Carifidy says:
August 21, 2018 at 10:33 pm
Revera’s employer, Craig Lang, was likely able to keep things under wraps with the FBI. His roots run deep in Iowa agriculture, state and national politics. He and his family own and farm on an industrial scale several thousand acres, and employ a large number of immigrant farm laborers. Lang was a University of Iowa Regent for six years, part of that time was president of that board, and is a past president of the national Farm Bureau. He had hoped to be appointed Iowa’s Secretary of Agriculture following the resignation of Bill Northey, and ran for the position in the June 2018 GOP Convention.
This guy is a politically connected Republican that hires illegal immigrants because it’s cheaper, with no fear of employment laws. He’s obviously not dedicated to MAGA, and I don’t want him representing my State’s interests in any capacity. I’m sorry I have to declare the same party affiliation as his to vote in a primary. He’s part of the swamp that needs draining, and I wish he’d get the hell off my ‘side’.
For a big time farmer, if true, he’s collected very little farm welfare. This makes me a bit skeptical of the story. It’s possible that his operation is under a corporate name so this could be just a portion of the taxpayer money he’s sucked from us.
https://farm.ewg.org/persondetail.php?custnumber=A06679731
I agree with you 100%.
Almost no one deserves their fate though.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-latest-trump-cites-tibbetts-case-at-west-virginia-rally/2018/08/21/d4638222-a5a2-11e8-ad6f-080770dcddc2_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.17f221d36df1
The immigrant from Mexico charged in the kidnapping and murder of an Iowa college student worked at a dairy farm owned by the family of a prominent state Republican leader.
Yarrabee Farms said in a statement that Cristhian Bahena Rivera had worked at its farms for the last four years and was an employee in good standing. The company said it was shocked to hear that Rivera had been charged in the death of 20-year-old Mollie Tibbetts.
Spokesman Dane Lang said Tuesday night that Yarrabee Farms is a “small family farm” owned by him and his father, Craig Lang, who has long been a prominent Iowa farmer and political figure.
Craig Lang previously served as president of the Iowa Farm Bureau and president of the Iowa Board of Regents, which governs the state’s public universities. In June, he lost a close GOP primary in the race for state agriculture secretary.
https://farm.ewg.org/addrsearch.php?s=yup&stab=US&zip=&last=Lang&stab=IA&first=Craig&fullname=Yarrabee&stab2=IA&b=Search++Businesses
So WE all paid to have this girl butchered. Doesn’t that give you a warm tingling feeling?
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
It isn’t ridiculous for rhetorical purposes. It is no doubt perfectly true that illegal immigrants are not routinely murdering beautiful young white girls, but people find this sort of thing easier to grasp than graphs about average wages and so on, and claims about elites actively seeking to create a constantly replenishing underclass.
But on a different note, has anyone every tried to analyze murder stats by dividing them into domestic vs criminal/criminal vs random? I suspect that the lines are not always clear. If a woman at first engages sympathetically with a guy who later murders her, is that “domestic”? If a guy shows some interest in criminal activity, but then withdraws after he has seen “too much” and gets punished, is that criminal on criminal? I do suspect that if you draw the lines widely, then the number of “random” murder victims (including workplace killings, etc.) is a small portion of the whole.
If you’re going to be a pedant you might wonna get your facts straight….
She was born May ’98.
https://twitter.com/josey_jewell/status/1021035443956174849/photo/1
August 21, 2018 at 10:33 pm
Revera’s employer, Craig Lang, was likely able to keep things under wraps with the FBI. His roots run deep in Iowa agriculture, state and national politics. He and his family own and farm on an industrial scale several thousand acres, and employ a large number of immigrant farm laborers. Lang was a University of Iowa Regent for six years, part of that time was president of that board, and is a past president of the national Farm Bureau. He had hoped to be appointed Iowa’s Secretary of Agriculture following the resignation of Bill Northey, and ran for the position in the June 2018 GOP Convention.This guy is a politically connected Republican that hires illegal immigrants because it’s cheaper, with no fear of employment laws. He’s obviously not dedicated to MAGA, and I don’t want him representing my State’s interests in any capacity. I’m sorry I have to declare the same party affiliation as his to vote in a primary. He’s part of the swamp that needs draining, and I wish he’d get the hell off my ‘side’.Replies: @Boethiuss, @Stan d Mute
I don’t know how much of this is true, if any. But I know I want somebody to find out and tell me.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
New Mexico (47% Hispanic – highest in the nation) has the 2nd worst crime rate in the nation (only behind Alaska) and is ranked by US News as the least safe state overall.
Stupid question, but is she any relation to the guitarist Steve Tibbetts. I don’t see that last name much.
Would you sing the same pathetic tune if it were your child killed by a person who should not be here?Replies: @Wilkey
Would you sing the same pathetic tune if it were your child killed by a person who should not be here?
This exactly. Yes, Mollie’s murderer could have just as easily been a white redneck from Iowa, so some people argue that illegal immigration has nothing to do with it. Plenty of young white women who are murdered are murdered by white guys. But Mollie’s murderer was a man who came into our country without permission from the American people and took whatever he wanted, including the life of a young American woman in order to (presumably) satisfy his sexual desire. That is the mark not of an immigrant, but of an invader. That’s why it matters that her murderer was an illegal.
August 21, 2018 at 10:33 pm
Revera’s employer, Craig Lang, was likely able to keep things under wraps with the FBI. His roots run deep in Iowa agriculture, state and national politics. He and his family own and farm on an industrial scale several thousand acres, and employ a large number of immigrant farm laborers. Lang was a University of Iowa Regent for six years, part of that time was president of that board, and is a past president of the national Farm Bureau. He had hoped to be appointed Iowa’s Secretary of Agriculture following the resignation of Bill Northey, and ran for the position in the June 2018 GOP Convention.This guy is a politically connected Republican that hires illegal immigrants because it’s cheaper, with no fear of employment laws. He’s obviously not dedicated to MAGA, and I don’t want him representing my State’s interests in any capacity. I’m sorry I have to declare the same party affiliation as his to vote in a primary. He’s part of the swamp that needs draining, and I wish he’d get the hell off my ‘side’.Replies: @Boethiuss, @Stan d Mute
If true, this traitor needs to be prosecuted as an accessory to murder. If the invader/murderer hadn’t worked for him (a crime) he wouldn’t have been in Brooklyn to kill the girl.
For a big time farmer, if true, he’s collected very little farm welfare. This makes me a bit skeptical of the story. It’s possible that his operation is under a corporate name so this could be just a portion of the taxpayer money he’s sucked from us.
https://farm.ewg.org/persondetail.php?custnumber=A06679731
Exactly. I was meaning to make the same comment about the illegal delivery boy killing in NYC. The obvious question: what restaurant did he work for? RICO their ass!
And if these people have done some sort of lame ass compliance with the law, then Trump needs to be proposing a law that closes that loophole and puts in mandatory E-verify.
This case is even better–a*hole killed American girl. This is way, way better than the crap the enemy does with this child pulled from its (non) mother. Go full dog and pony. Sue the bastards enabling this. Introduce the legislation that makes it easy for people to go after the bastards employing these people. Demonize the Democrats who oppose it as killer enablers who sacrifice Americans on the alter of open borders.
Make this election–and Trump’s re-election–about precisely this immigration issue. Border, security, jobs, wages, housing, affordable family formation, schools, traffic congestion, sprawl, environmental protection, etc. etc. etc.
The immigrant from Mexico charged in the kidnapping and murder of an Iowa college student worked at a dairy farm owned by the family of a prominent state Republican leader.
Yarrabee Farms said in a statement that Cristhian Bahena Rivera had worked at its farms for the last four years and was an employee in good standing. The company said it was shocked to hear that Rivera had been charged in the death of 20-year-old Mollie Tibbetts.
Spokesman Dane Lang said Tuesday night that Yarrabee Farms is a “small family farm” owned by him and his father, Craig Lang, who has long been a prominent Iowa farmer and political figure.
Craig Lang previously served as president of the Iowa Farm Bureau and president of the Iowa Board of Regents, which governs the state’s public universities. In June, he lost a close GOP primary in the race for state agriculture secretary.Replies: @Stan d Mute
Well now. $1,000,000 in farm welfare paid to this treasonous piece of shit who enabled the invader/murderer to kill an innocent American girl.
https://farm.ewg.org/addrsearch.php?s=yup&stab=US&zip=&last=Lang&stab=IA&first=Craig&fullname=Yarrabee&stab2=IA&b=Search++Businesses
So WE all paid to have this girl butchered. Doesn’t that give you a warm tingling feeling?
Yeah yeah, maybe that could work, but I don’t like it. What I like better is, send ICE out to Yarrabee Farms tomorrow, and clean house on their shit. Donald Trump can order that done this minute. I wonder if the farmer would actually have enough balls to complain about it. Tough shit either way really.
And if it really is the case that their workforce is legal, or successfully scammed e-Verify, then our problem isn’t with the farmer. But either way, I want to know.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
https://twitter.com/JanetTavakoli/status/1028768990020206592
He is a white male from West Virginia named Homer and, most importantly, he did not appear in “Hidden Figures,” the only history of NASA that really matters to today’s diversity and inclusion, Twitter obsessed, millennials.
Yarrabee Farms, a big operation.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
Ha, ha, ha.
Ronny defends killer illegal alien Mexicans but can’t defend his own race.
What self-hate hath wrought.
We shall win
For we have got
Donald Trump
And they have not!
Steve, you deleted my previous comment about white people killing Japanese women didn’t you?
The white people here will blame Mexicans, and make it seem like whites could never do the same, but white people do it all the time.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/05/02/national/crime-legal/u-s-man-indicted-killing-woman-osaka/
Surely a Mayflower descendant!
Illegal aliens, improving the vitality of Iowa communities, one homicide at a time.
https://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txCriminalAlienStatistics.htm
(*These numbers are understated as explained in the link)
Needless to say, illegals [and their legal brethren] are profoundly altering the quality of life in Texas. What happens here will spread to you. There really is no greater issue where the future of America is concerned.
Good.
Let me be clear. I mean that as opposed to the murdered girl having been a white girl who was behaving properly.
However, my thoughts are similar to Sporadic’s. Plenty of these young white girls are not nasties. They are simply compliant, compliant to the norms society is giving them. The truly evil people are the ones pushing this ideology, saying “nation of immigrants”, “diversity is our strength”, “no one is illegal”, “abolish ICE” in academia, Hollyweird, in Congress, on the pages of the NYT.
The white people here will blame Mexicans, and make it seem like whites could never do the same, but white people do it all the time.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/05/02/national/crime-legal/u-s-man-indicted-killing-woman-osaka/Replies: @anon, @blahbahblah
The American suspect: Yevgeniy Vasilievich Bayraktar.
Surely a Mayflower descendant!
Bare Minimum: Illegal aliens given no quarter in the US. No jobs, no welfare, no licenses, no bank accounts. Immediate deportation. Repeat offenders –> hard labor. No birthright citizenship to foreign nationals.
Hard Mode: Undo some of the damage already done by rescinding citizenship of recent anchor babies.
Any short-term economic dislocation resulting from the above will be well worth it in the long run.
Ha ha ha.
How I hate clownworld.
The statue in question is called ‘Silent Sam’ and it’s (or was) on the UNC campus at Chapel Hill — UNC Chapel Hill is a fairly selective school — I think very probably a large majority (if not almost all) of the topplers are UNC students, so it’s a stretch to call them “white trash” — which is kind of the point really: the propaganda has infiltrated and rearranged the minds of even the more intelligent white kids.
Behavior is a better indicator of WT. And public vandalism is such a behavior. Those in the photo would be the first to claim they hate Whites, and would call out Whites who don't measure up to their standards as WT. They would mock poor Whites too.
They are trash in my eyes and I will refer to them as such. The bonus is it might be a term that draws blood with them like cuckservative has done with GOPe.Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
But obviously she did not "hate white people" and obviously she did not get what she wanted.
By the standards of anyone with any sense, she seems to have been a beautiful and idealistic young woman.
One of the many tragedies here is that so many like her, by which I mean genuinely beautiful and idealistic young women, are brainwashed into thinking that expressing disdain for white people attaches one to some deeper moral truth. At the risk of raising the hackles of some of the more rationalistic readers, I'd say it is pretty damn Satanic.Replies: @Pericles
The problem with idealism is if your ideals are evil.
ron unz is really not very smart on this issue. i was almost killed by illegals who crashed into my car. how many americans are killed by illegals just from that?
also note the really stupid use of this statistical argument – the getting hit by lightning thing. used by many people, not just by our host here. but it’s always stupid and wrong. why?
almost all people successfully avoid getting hit by lightning, by, you know, TRYING TO AVOID getting hit by lightning. it’s not a random thing at all, like winning the lottery, which they always somehow conflate the probability of the two events.
what if people were TRYING TO GET HIT by lightning, instead of always trying to avoid it? then i bet a lot more people would get hit by lightning, and those statistics about the probability of getting hit by lightning, would be greatly changed, and the old odds would be totally worthless. like ron’s opinion on this topic.
jamming 30 million illegals into the US is like deliberately trying to get everybody hit by lightning.
(FBI joined in the search for Mollie Tibbets early on.)
There are apparently rather loose physical standards for FBI agents these days.
My company deals with a lot of military. You would not believe all the double and triple chinned folks, even among the younger enlisteds and junior officers.
As I rhetorically ask my wife when she complains about poor service at our local Post Office, “What do you expect when they hire to meet a quota?”
You sure? Joking? The NASA intern twit seems to be trans (?) with the name Naomi but called “he”. You can’t tell the players these days even with a scorecard.
There are apparently rather loose physical standards for FBI agents these days.
http://www.lauthmissingpersons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Screenshot-46.pngReplies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @mmack
There are loose standards in all agencies and branches of the armed forces now.
My company deals with a lot of military. You would not believe all the double and triple chinned folks, even among the younger enlisteds and junior officers.
The white people here will blame Mexicans, and make it seem like whites could never do the same, but white people do it all the time.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/05/02/national/crime-legal/u-s-man-indicted-killing-woman-osaka/Replies: @anon, @blahbahblah
White? I generally take a broader view of “whiteness” than most here, but the guy is central asian… he looks turkish. Almost certainly from a muslim minority in Russia or the stans.
I know exactly what that photo depicts and I stand by my WT remark. WT does not necessarily mean one is poor, otherwise there would be no need for the term ‘poor white trash’.
Behavior is a better indicator of WT. And public vandalism is such a behavior. Those in the photo would be the first to claim they hate Whites, and would call out Whites who don’t measure up to their standards as WT. They would mock poor Whites too.
They are trash in my eyes and I will refer to them as such. The bonus is it might be a term that draws blood with them like cuckservative has done with GOPe.
Hope these callow fools posted this to their ubiquitous Facebook pages, and that it comes back to haunt them later. I'm sure that self-righteous assholes who take it upon themselves to destroy things that hurt their widdle feelz will be popular with employers. Self-doxxing out of their own arrogance would be sweet.
“If it saves only one life.”
The above is a favorite liberal trope, unless it doesn’t fit the Narrative.
That's what happened in that other case where the guy strangled his wife and two daughters, and the media was pleased. That story will remain huge for months, because the narrative was fulfilled. But poor Mollie had the misfortune of being killed by a member of the kindest, hardest working group of people to ever walk the earth, so she'll be removed from public view in short order.Replies: @Barnard, @mmack
It’s not really odd, or unexpected. Way back in 2005 during the “Runaway Bride” case the fair, even handed media (especially calm, rational ex-Prosecutor Nancy “What about the children?” Grace) had her fiancé tried, convicted, and ready to be sentenced in the court of public opinion.
Then Jennifer Wilbanks showed up alive. So the narrative had to shift to what a terrible person her fiancé had to be to drive her to fake a kidnapping.
Then it came out Jennifer was as nutty as a peanut patch. So the issue was dropped. The accuse the intimate partner narrative was so blatant in that case that it was the first time I really “noticed” the overt bias around it.
There are apparently rather loose physical standards for FBI agents these days.
http://www.lauthmissingpersons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Screenshot-46.pngReplies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @mmack
eah,
As I rhetorically ask my wife when she complains about poor service at our local Post Office, “What do you expect when they hire to meet a quota?”
In order to qualify for DACA you have to be in residence in the country since ‘07, so he doesn’t have DACA.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
The analogue of your Vioxx analysis applies here. The rare cases of murder are just an easy-to-meme synecdoche for the much larger costs of Third World invasion, which include actuarial effects hundreds (or thousands) of times larger than your number. Hosting tens of millions of illegals and amnestied-illegals and their children and relatives, for several decades, has led to a decline of jobs and wages (for natives), deterioration of the medical system, and an expansion of the drug trade.
This increases deaths from alcoholism, opiates, crime, drunk driving, and the whole spectrum of medical problems. The cumulative effect of all that extra death and suffering, summed over the US population, is presumably a lot more than “ten whites each year”.
The other point of these murder stories is that these losses were preventable, by having a sane policy on borders and immigration.
Nearly 40k likes for something so puerile.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
It isn’t homicide as much as impaired driving:
“As many as 7,500 Americans — 20 per day — are killed annually by unlicensed drivers, and Rosenberg calculates that more than half are the victims of illegal immigrants.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/30/dad-turns-grief-from-sons-death-into-quest-to-tabulate-toll-illegal-drivers.html
10 per day adds up, especially over a decade. I’m assuming that most of the impaired illegal immigrants are Hispanic.
not sure if posted already, but yet another illegal murderer, this time in minnesota.
Deported Mexican kills his ex-girlfriend
Looks like an illegal murdered his legal mexican or puerto rican girlfriend.
i would guess the murders aren’t as rare as is being argued here. they probably kill dozens of US citizens a year, maybe a hundred, if reported accurately. how many people do illegal gang members kill? seems like 2 or 3 per month just in new york. i’d bet the same in texas at minimum, probably more going by those prison reports.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlGBc-UU4AAkHiS.jpgReplies: @eah, @istevefan, @S. Anonyia
Are these college students? Why do they all look 14?
Just wanted to drop this here link of a white man taping and killing a Japanese woman in the very low crime country of Japan.
See! White Americans kill Japanese women all the time, so why should there be this hysteria over a brown guy killing a white girl?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5433455/American-tourist-26-suspected-Japanese-womans-murder.htmlReplies: @Maus, @Kylie
Last name Bayraktar. Sounds like a former Soviet from one of the stans. Hardly a good ole boy from Heritage America.
In your glee to disparage whites, you abase yourself like a typical cuck. Try harder next time…
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
It’s a eye-grabber. Saying that an illegal murdered an American has a lot more “gut punch” factor than 20M rather ordinary people have come into the country to establish demographic force that will enable to the left to establish permanent dominance.
If the illegals were all MS-13 gangbangers the right’s struggle would be much easier. The reaction would be hard and complete. Instead they are fairly peaceable and largely hard-working. That makes them infinitely more dangerous. As may be expected Hispanics (citizen, immigrant, illegal, whatever) may be expected vote in tribal patterns, with a high degree of support for the Democrats, a pattern that in whites would be (and is) regarded as some sort of vile nazi/racist aggression (hence the late Ms. Tibbetts disdain for white people). If they left gets enough, they seize power. If they have the power, the leftist paradise will fall into the usual chaotic struggle, which only a dictator can resolve. Cromwell, Napoleon, Stalin, that’s the way to rack up real death tolls.
I think the Flight 93 Election essay was a tremendous eye-opener for me. But it was dialectic that sways the intellect. A dead girl in a ditch is rhetoric, that moves emotions.
We live in an emotional world and always have.
You opponents have almost total control of the mainstream media and the social media as well. They can get away with using lots of dishonest propaganda in a way that your side cannot.
An even bigger problem is that the people who totally control the Internet and social media mostly live here in Silicon Valley, which is very heavily Hispanic and immigrant. So if you go around saying things about Hispanic immigrants that they absolutely know from personal experience are totally ridiculous, they'll decide you're just a bunch of liars or lunatics, and more easily succumb to the demands of the ADL and the SPLC to ban you from every form of social media and Internet service.
That's basically the trade-off. You can energize your base, but risk losing credibility with the people who can just kick you off the Internet....Replies: @D. K., @Tex
>The farmer or company that was employing him should be fined into bankruptcy.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlOVlf-U0AAIE12.jpgReplies: @Corn
Damn liberals….. so if my kid turns into a cokehead I’m obligated to let other cokeheads move in to?
Followup:
…Yarrabee Farms co-owner and manager Dane Lang clarified Wednesday afternoon that the farm did not use a federal E-Verify check on suspect Cristhian Rivera, despite the company’s claim earlier in the day that it did.
If the illegals were all MS-13 gangbangers the right's struggle would be much easier. The reaction would be hard and complete. Instead they are fairly peaceable and largely hard-working. That makes them infinitely more dangerous. As may be expected Hispanics (citizen, immigrant, illegal, whatever) may be expected vote in tribal patterns, with a high degree of support for the Democrats, a pattern that in whites would be (and is) regarded as some sort of vile nazi/racist aggression (hence the late Ms. Tibbetts disdain for white people). If they left gets enough, they seize power. If they have the power, the leftist paradise will fall into the usual chaotic struggle, which only a dictator can resolve. Cromwell, Napoleon, Stalin, that's the way to rack up real death tolls.
I think the Flight 93 Election essay was a tremendous eye-opener for me. But it was dialectic that sways the intellect. A dead girl in a ditch is rhetoric, that moves emotions.
We live in an emotional world and always have.Replies: @Ron Unz
Well, at least that’s a perfectly rational attitude to take. However, there’s a problem with your analysis…
You opponents have almost total control of the mainstream media and the social media as well. They can get away with using lots of dishonest propaganda in a way that your side cannot.
An even bigger problem is that the people who totally control the Internet and social media mostly live here in Silicon Valley, which is very heavily Hispanic and immigrant. So if you go around saying things about Hispanic immigrants that they absolutely know from personal experience are totally ridiculous, they’ll decide you’re just a bunch of liars or lunatics, and more easily succumb to the demands of the ADL and the SPLC to ban you from every form of social media and Internet service.
That’s basically the trade-off. You can energize your base, but risk losing credibility with the people who can just kick you off the Internet….
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The 2010 United States Census reported that Palo Alto had a population of 64,403.[39] The population density was 2,497.5 people per square mile (964.3/km²). The racial makeup of Palo Alto was 41,359 (64.2%) White, 17,461 (27.1%) Asian, 1,197 (1.9%) African American, 121 (0.2%) Native American, 142 (0.2%) Pacific Islander, 1,426 (2.2%) from other races, and 2,697 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3,974 persons (6.2%).
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I guess that living among black and brown people in a multicultural, majority-minority California is just not everyone's cup of tea, eh?
https://northerncaliforniamostwanted.org/default.aspx?menuitemid=721&category=LawEnforcementFugitives
We all pray, Mr. Unz, that those three white felons who escaped from Alcatraz, back when you were a baby, are recaptured soon, so that you and your neighbors may go back to sleeping peacefully in your beds, with your doors all unlocked, in your multicultural utopia.Replies: @D. K.
In other words, I don't think we have any credibility to lose with people who can kick us off Twitter, Facebook, denounce us in Slate, the Atlantic, etc.
I'd say that it's easier to push the "look at this violent illegal alien" line than to assert that whites have the right to vote for what's in their best interest en bloc. Trump walked a fine line openly saying the former, but as far as I could see, has avoided saying the latter openly, even if that was the basis for his winning the White House. Other than Steve Sailer and Ann Coulter, it's not a common thing to hear. But push the concept of whites having a common identity, common interest, and a right to act on it, too hard, too visibly, and you get demonized as a white nationalist/nazi which puts limits on who you can reach. It's not so much a matter of losing credibility with gatekeepers as giving them a lever to destroy your credibility with the people you want to reach. Poor Mollie Tibbetts read the election returns and was moved to declare her hatred of whites just for having a visible voting pattern. More importantly, as you say, they do control the gates and can be as dishonest as they want.
I think the strategy is to accept the risk, but mitigate it by having some platform that is not directly under hostile control. That's why I like the Unz Review! Taki's too. Of course, that's easier said than done, as you well know.
We definitely have to play the role of media guerrillas. How to get around the stranglehold the left has is sort of like seeing a giant cliff and saying you just have to climb it. Trump's tweeting and Q are examples of the presidency playing the role of media guerrilla. It can be done but it's very difficult.
the FBI would have grilled him for days
I’m sure they would have gotten a confession.
Just wanted to drop this here link of a white man taping and killing a Japanese woman in the very low crime country of Japan.
See! White Americans kill Japanese women all the time, so why should there be this hysteria over a brown guy killing a white girl?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5433455/American-tourist-26-suspected-Japanese-womans-murder.htmlReplies: @Maus, @Kylie
“White Americans kill Japanese women all the time, so why should there be this hysteria over a brown guy killing a white girl?”
One murder of a Japanese woman by a Russian-born American=White Americans killing Japanese women all the time? You’re not even really trying.
“Bayraktar, who calls himself Jake, was born in Russia and moved to the US aged 9.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5460117/Pictured-tourist-decapitated-Tinder-date-Japan.html
Since I don’t approve of whites making anti-white statements or people hooking up with strangers they meet online, I am not hysterical over either murder. I do think these two savages should be executed, though.
Genuine class, if misguided.
You opponents have almost total control of the mainstream media and the social media as well. They can get away with using lots of dishonest propaganda in a way that your side cannot.
An even bigger problem is that the people who totally control the Internet and social media mostly live here in Silicon Valley, which is very heavily Hispanic and immigrant. So if you go around saying things about Hispanic immigrants that they absolutely know from personal experience are totally ridiculous, they'll decide you're just a bunch of liars or lunatics, and more easily succumb to the demands of the ADL and the SPLC to ban you from every form of social media and Internet service.
That's basically the trade-off. You can energize your base, but risk losing credibility with the people who can just kick you off the Internet....Replies: @D. K., @Tex
You live in Palo Alto, don’t you, Mr. Unz?
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The 2010 United States Census reported that Palo Alto had a population of 64,403.[39] The population density was 2,497.5 people per square mile (964.3/km²). The racial makeup of Palo Alto was 41,359 (64.2%) White, 17,461 (27.1%) Asian, 1,197 (1.9%) African American, 121 (0.2%) Native American, 142 (0.2%) Pacific Islander, 1,426 (2.2%) from other races, and 2,697 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3,974 persons (6.2%).
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I guess that living among black and brown people in a multicultural, majority-minority California is just not everyone’s cup of tea, eh?
https://northerncaliforniamostwanted.org/default.aspx?menuitemid=721&category=LawEnforcementFugitives
We all pray, Mr. Unz, that those three white felons who escaped from Alcatraz, back when you were a baby, are recaptured soon, so that you and your neighbors may go back to sleeping peacefully in your beds, with your doors all unlocked, in your multicultural utopia.
https://northerncaliforniamostwanted.org/default.aspx?MenuItemID=719&MenuGroup=NC+Most+Wanted+Public
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The 2010 United States Census reported that Palo Alto had a population of 64,403.[39] The population density was 2,497.5 people per square mile (964.3/km²). The racial makeup of Palo Alto was 41,359 (64.2%) White, 17,461 (27.1%) Asian, 1,197 (1.9%) African American, 121 (0.2%) Native American, 142 (0.2%) Pacific Islander, 1,426 (2.2%) from other races, and 2,697 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3,974 persons (6.2%).
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I guess that living among black and brown people in a multicultural, majority-minority California is just not everyone's cup of tea, eh?
https://northerncaliforniamostwanted.org/default.aspx?menuitemid=721&category=LawEnforcementFugitives
We all pray, Mr. Unz, that those three white felons who escaped from Alcatraz, back when you were a baby, are recaptured soon, so that you and your neighbors may go back to sleeping peacefully in your beds, with your doors all unlocked, in your multicultural utopia.Replies: @D. K.
Sorry, I meant to link to Northern California’s most-wanted page, where the three Alcatraz escapees from June 1962 are all still listed, not to Northern California’s captured-or-deceased page [supra]:
https://northerncaliforniamostwanted.org/default.aspx?MenuItemID=719&MenuGroup=NC+Most+Wanted+Public
also note the really stupid use of this statistical argument - the getting hit by lightning thing. used by many people, not just by our host here. but it's always stupid and wrong. why?
almost all people successfully avoid getting hit by lightning, by, you know, TRYING TO AVOID getting hit by lightning. it's not a random thing at all, like winning the lottery, which they always somehow conflate the probability of the two events.
what if people were TRYING TO GET HIT by lightning, instead of always trying to avoid it? then i bet a lot more people would get hit by lightning, and those statistics about the probability of getting hit by lightning, would be greatly changed, and the old odds would be totally worthless. like ron's opinion on this topic.
jamming 30 million illegals into the US is like deliberately trying to get everybody hit by lightning.Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
Fair hispanic population in Camden, NJ where I work. Don’t think they always know what the signs say, particularly “yield”. “That’s a funny word, wonder what it means…” BLAM.
Behavior is a better indicator of WT. And public vandalism is such a behavior. Those in the photo would be the first to claim they hate Whites, and would call out Whites who don't measure up to their standards as WT. They would mock poor Whites too.
They are trash in my eyes and I will refer to them as such. The bonus is it might be a term that draws blood with them like cuckservative has done with GOPe.Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
The statue destroyers could largely be yankees, or 2nd generation yankee new carpetbaggers. Still trashy, but from preset ideological reasons. Alien invaders in Dixie, but feeling themselves entitled to shit on local sensibilities. Realistically, they come from another country, after all.
Hope these callow fools posted this to their ubiquitous Facebook pages, and that it comes back to haunt them later. I’m sure that self-righteous assholes who take it upon themselves to destroy things that hurt their widdle feelz will be popular with employers. Self-doxxing out of their own arrogance would be sweet.
You opponents have almost total control of the mainstream media and the social media as well. They can get away with using lots of dishonest propaganda in a way that your side cannot.
An even bigger problem is that the people who totally control the Internet and social media mostly live here in Silicon Valley, which is very heavily Hispanic and immigrant. So if you go around saying things about Hispanic immigrants that they absolutely know from personal experience are totally ridiculous, they'll decide you're just a bunch of liars or lunatics, and more easily succumb to the demands of the ADL and the SPLC to ban you from every form of social media and Internet service.
That's basically the trade-off. You can energize your base, but risk losing credibility with the people who can just kick you off the Internet....Replies: @D. K., @Tex
Yes and no. I think that your analysis of risk is that the media oligarchy evaluates the right’s propaganda to decide what is honest and credible and what isn’t. My blanket assumption is that they consider it all toxic garbage and will get around to banning every last scrap of it when they can. I suspect what is holding them back is some internal consideration of when is a good time to strike.
In other words, I don’t think we have any credibility to lose with people who can kick us off Twitter, Facebook, denounce us in Slate, the Atlantic, etc.
I’d say that it’s easier to push the “look at this violent illegal alien” line than to assert that whites have the right to vote for what’s in their best interest en bloc. Trump walked a fine line openly saying the former, but as far as I could see, has avoided saying the latter openly, even if that was the basis for his winning the White House. Other than Steve Sailer and Ann Coulter, it’s not a common thing to hear. But push the concept of whites having a common identity, common interest, and a right to act on it, too hard, too visibly, and you get demonized as a white nationalist/nazi which puts limits on who you can reach. It’s not so much a matter of losing credibility with gatekeepers as giving them a lever to destroy your credibility with the people you want to reach. Poor Mollie Tibbetts read the election returns and was moved to declare her hatred of whites just for having a visible voting pattern. More importantly, as you say, they do control the gates and can be as dishonest as they want.
I think the strategy is to accept the risk, but mitigate it by having some platform that is not directly under hostile control. That’s why I like the Unz Review! Taki’s too. Of course, that’s easier said than done, as you well know.
We definitely have to play the role of media guerrillas. How to get around the stranglehold the left has is sort of like seeing a giant cliff and saying you just have to climb it. Trump’s tweeting and Q are examples of the presidency playing the role of media guerrilla. It can be done but it’s very difficult.
There are supposedly 11M illegal immigrants in the country and something like 15K annual murders. But I'm really not sure than more than 10 of the latter involve ordinary killings of whites by illegals (by "ordinary" I'm excluding rival drug-dealers shooting each other or wives stabbing husbands or that sort of thing). If so, then the typical white would be more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by an illegal immigrant.
One point I made is that given all the hair-trigger reactions of immigration activists and immigration websites, any such killing would probably get a considerable amount of attention these days. I think that anyone's paying attention to such a very mundane killing in Iowa would tend to support that claim.
We're almost two-thirds into 2018, and I can't quite believe this is the first such incident of the year. But maybe some of the energetic commenters here can scour the archives of Breitbart and the Daily Stormer and at least locate five or six previous cases.
I mean, if you can't find even ten whites killed each year by 11M illegals, isn't the whole issue pretty ridiculous?...Replies: @istevefan, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @RIPmollie, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Sgt. Joe Friday, @J.Ross, @Bleuteaux, @PennTothal, @D. K., @newrouter, @SporadicMyrmidon, @Wilkey, @eah, @gda, @academic gossip, @Anon, @Tex, @Anonymous
As a regular reader of the Daily Stormer, though not Breitbart, I am indeed amused at how much difficulty their staff has in finding examples of the allegedly gigantic violent criminal threat that immigrants pose to white Americans. Most of their “race war” section consists of reprinting reports of crimes committed by blacks, rather than by Hispanic or Asian immigrants.
She turned 20 on May 8. Most or even all of the Tweets she wrote that people are citing were written before May 8. So yes, a teenager.
There is something to be said about the contradiction between her political opinions and who actually murdered her, but she just was a young woman still learning about life who still clung to the blame whitey beliefs the MSM and the education establishment encouraged her - you might say brainwashed her - into believing. If some hardcore 40 y.o. open borders shill had been raped and murdered by an illegal I'd feel no small amount of schadenfreude. But Mollie was a completely innocent victim.Replies: @BB753
Most victims are innocent. I never implied that Mollie Tibbets deserved her sad fate. Some people mature slowly in Political matters. Others change their views overnight. Take my own case. Thanks to my independent readings and to my father’s common sense, by age nineteen I was a full-blown reactionary. Until then, I’d been a luke-warm liberal, as befits a young college student. Exposure to actual nutty leftists in college, to vicious and greedy union men during strikes and the utter lawlessness of streets also helped in shaping my mind. My political change took less than 3 months, as I became a grown man, still immature in many ways but not in the political realm. (by age 19 I looked 24 years old).
Unfortunately, college brainwashing usually lasts a lifetime, the same as college debt! Many older women keep the same liberal open borders mentality throughout their whole life. With Mollie Tibbets we will never know.
As always, my advice for parents remains the same: don’t send your daughters to college!