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From the New York Times news section:
Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure
What is it like when a city abandons a neighborhood and the police vanish? Business owners describe a harrowing experience of calling for help and being left all alone.
By Nellie Bowles
Aug. 7, 2020SEATTLE — Faizel Khan was being told by the news media and his own mayor that the protests in his hometown were peaceful, with “a block party atmosphere.”
But that was not what he saw through the windows of his Seattle coffee shop. He saw encampments overtaking the sidewalks. He saw roving bands of masked protesters smashing windows and looting.
Young white men wielding guns
The NYT won’t call them Antifa yet in the hopes that readers assume these are the terrifying white supremacist wreckers they’ve heard so much about and thus not be offended by this article by not getting the point.
would harangue customers as well as Mr. Khan, a gay man of Middle Eastern descent who moved here from Texas so he could more comfortably be out.
The CHAZ/CHOP zone on Capitol Hill was the gay district, so the gay business owners are mad.
To get into his coffee shop, he sometimes had to seek the permission of self-appointed armed guards to cross a border they had erected.
“They barricaded us all in here,” Mr. Khan said. “And they were sitting in lawn chairs with guns.”
For 23 days in June, about six blocks in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood were claimed by left-wing demonstrators and declared police-free. Protesters hailed it as liberation — from police oppression, from white supremacy — and a catalyst for a national movement.
In the wake of the killing of George Floyd by the Minneapolis police, the Black Lives Matter movement is calling to defund the police, arguing that the criminal justice system is inherently racist.
NYT in December 2020: Remember what we told you about the “killing” of George Floyd? Well, never mind …
… That has left small-business owners as lonely voices in progressive areas, arguing that police officers are necessary and that cities cannot function without a robust public safety presence. In Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland, Ore., many of those business owners consider themselves progressive, and in interviews they express support for the Black Lives Matter movement. But they also worry that their businesses, already debilitated by the coronavirus pandemic, will struggle to survive if police departments and city governments cannot protect them.
On Capitol Hill, business crashed as the Seattle police refused to respond to calls to the area. Officers did not retake the region until July 1, after four shootings, including two fatal ones.
Now a group of local businesses owners — including a locksmith, the owner of a tattoo parlor, a mechanic, the owners of a Mexican restaurant and Mr. Khan — is suing the city. The lawsuit claims that “Seattle’s unprecedented decision to abandon and close off an entire city neighborhood, leaving it unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public” resulted in enormous property damage and lost revenue.
The Seattle lawsuit — and interviews with shop owners in cities like Portland and Minneapolis — underscores a key question: Can businesses still rely on local governments, which are now rethinking the role of the police, to keep them safe? The issue is especially tense in Seattle, where the city government not only permitted the establishment of a police-free zone, but provided infrastructure like concrete barriers and portable toilets to sustain it. …
Many are nervous about speaking out lest they lend ammunition to a conservative critique of the Black Lives Matter movement. In Portland, Elizabeth Snow McDougall, the owner of Stevens-Ness legal printers, emphasized her support for the cause before describing the damage done to her business.
“One window broken, then another, then another, then another. Garbage to clean off the sidewalk in front of the store every morning. Urine to wash out of our doorway alcove. Graffiti to remove,” Ms. McDougall wrote in an email. “Costs to board up and later we’ll have costs to repair.” ….
One mid-July morning in the neighborhood, workers in orange vests were mopping off the sidewalks and power-spraying graffiti off the sides of buildings. Two window repair guys said they had their hands full for weeks. Shattered street lamps were being unscrewed and replaced.
A confusing array of security teams wandered around, armed with handguns and rifles. Some wore official-looking private security uniforms. Others wore casual clothes and lanyards identifying their affiliation with Black Lives Matter. A third group wore all black with no identifying labels and declined to name their group affiliation.
When a tall man in a trench coat and hiking boots walked over to question Mr. Khan, the man spread his coat open, revealing several pistols on harnesses around his chest and waist. He presented a badge on a lanyard that read “Black Lives Matter Community Patrol.”
His name is Rick Hearns and he identified himself as a longtime security guard and mover who is now a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said as he handed out his business card. (Mr. Khan said he and his neighbors are now paying thousands of dollars a month for protection from Iconic Global, a Washington State-based private security contractor.)
Mr. Hearns has had bad experiences with the police in his own life. He says he wants police reform, but he was appalled by the violent tactics and rhetoric he witnessed during the occupation.
He blamed the destruction and looting on “opportunists,” but also said that much of the damage on Capitol Hill came from a distinct contingent of violent, armed white activists. “It’s antifa,” he said.
So, we are finally told that the armed white guys are “antifa” (but not Antifa) 1,337 words into the article: the usual NYT practice of delaying un-PC facts until after most readers have gotten bored and moved on from the article.
“They don’t want to see the progress we’ve made. They want chaos.”
Many of the business owners on Capitol Hill agreed: Much of the violence they saw and the intimidation of their patrons came from a group these business owners identified as antifa, which they distinguished from the Black Lives Matter movement. “The idea of taking up the Black movement and turning it into a white occupation, it’s white privilege in its finest definition,” Mr. Khan said. “And that’s what they did.”
Antifa, which stands for anti-fascist, is a radical, leaderless leftist political movement that uses armed, violent protest as a method to create what supporters say is a more just and equitable country. They have a strong presence in the Pacific Northwest, including the current protests in Portland.
But Rep. Jerry Nadler said Antifa was just a myth!
When the occupation in Seattle started in early June, Mayor Jenny Durkan seemed almost amused. “We could have the Summer of Love,” she said.
After President Trump took aim at the governor of Washington State and Seattle’s mayor on June 11, Ms. Durkan defended the occupation on Twitter as “a peaceful expression of our community’s collective grief and their desire to build a better world,” she wrote, pointing to the “food trucks, spaghetti potlucks, teach-ins, and movies.”
The lawsuit by the small-business owners, filed by the firm Calfo Eakes on June 24, seizes on such language, pointing out that the city knew what was happening and provided material support for the occupation. …
Good that they found a GAY, BLACK AND INDIGENOUS, PERSON OF COLOUR, so their readership can be sure that his concerns are valid.
The NYT readers I know (sadly, I know several) are absolutely convinced that 99% of the violence has come from right-wing saboteurs, and the other 1% is because you are racist for asking.
Knock the NYT’s disinformation techniques all you want, people–they’re very effective.
Remember that politics is like advertising: You don’t have to fool the smart people, you have only to fool the most people.
Which is exactly why what we're really witnessing is nothing less than
Who do they want to protect the protestors from the extreme right racists ?Replies: @Mr McKenna
The Supreme Court has ruled that you have no right to police protection.
"Prior to launching their police defunding campaign, leftists already knew the firmness of their legal ground. DeShaney and Gonzales are two SCOTUS decisions, products of the conservative majority ... yet beloved by (and hugely useful to) leftists. Simplified, SCOTUS ruled that you have no legal right to police protection. That’s why city leaders in hellholes like Portland, Seattle, and New York can legally do what they’re doing. They have absolutely no obligation to provide police protection for their citizens. The left’s beloved anarcho-tyranny is not a violation of your rights. As my favorite constitutional law scholar Eugene Volokh told me last week, “The remedy for inadequate policing is political—retaliation against elected officials at the polls—and not legal.”
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-waning-luxury-of-being-color-blind/
Cole explains that city leaders are not legally enforced to protect their citizens, but they are well enforced to care about equal treatment, so the shopkeepers can only win a lawsuit if they show that they are whites and have been subject to an anti-white activity.
I have never heard about DeShaney and Gonzales - the Seattle gay shopkeepers either, I presume -, and I would like Steve to enlighten us about this matter.
” The CHAZ/CHOP Zone was a gay district “.
So, that’s what ‘chaz-chop’ means: some typically unspeakable bathhouse crowd abominable practice.
For instance, that time he was apprehended after committing a felony?
Who gave them permission to do that??
Thought it was AntiFA = Anti–Fascist Action
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Incidentally, the wiki article on the topic is mainly written by the ADL.
Soon all of wiki will be written by the ADL! One Fine Day!
Final confirmation they think ‘Defund the IDF’ will be a slogan thrown at reps across America real soon. Too late.
That sounds more BDSM than BLM.
Faizel Khan = Flak in haze.
Calfo Eakes = Fake solace. Koala feces.
How dumb do they think their readers are? Washington has a governor, Washington State a president:
This is this like a 2020-style weak echo of 30’s-style anaemic reporting on the glorious Soviet Revolution and meekly noticing that it is, in fact, controversial and in need of interrogation?
Nellie Bowles
Will she stay at the Times?
And is it pure happenstance that the same day Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler has awoken (“The Wheeler has awoken!!”) to the unglorious presence of people unwittingly creating Trumpian propaganda by trying to peacefully burn down a police precinct with police still inside?
Also OT: Weird things in Britain
Police stop RT interview with asylum seeker as we investigate the controversy of migrants living in hotels all around the UK
Not so much a devious plan to assemble muscle for the coming Sorosian takeover more than a shakedown operation of the dumb Whiteys who suffer in silence lest they be called Nazis.
Whenever Serco is mentioned you know someone is getting solid taxpayer bucks for catering operations which turn out to be sub-par and dirty whenever the kimono is lifted. You somehow get the vague feeling that it’s a feeder pipe for fresh money into various elite pockets, but I might be mistaken.
From Wikipedia:
Oh.
I’m cool with the property destruction and maiming people with lasers. That’s all good clean cosplay fun. But you gotta stop now cause it’s bad visuals and helps Trump.Replies: @Inquiring Mind
>The NYT won’t call them Antifa yet in the hopes that readers assume these are the terrifying white supremacist wreckers they’ve heard so much about and thus not be offended by this article by not getting the point.
Nobody’s buying that and they know it. The MSM basically decided not to report about the worst spate of civil unrest we’ve had in at least half a century, and it has finally become untenable to not do so. Sulzburger has basically chosen his paper’s fate as a response to Trump: it is now a slightly more classe version of Slate or Vox. That’s his right, but it is also the right of the American people to treat it as such, credibility-wise. Citing the NYT no longer gives you the kind of backing that it once did.
I don’t agree with Michael Tracey politically, but I’m very thankful for his conscientious evidence-gathering on the riots that the media can’t memory hole. Those pictures… it looks worse than 1968. He emphasizes that a lot of the store owners who just had their lives ruined are immigrants who-though they don’t support Trump-do have less-than-PC views about Antifa and BLM. This completely undermines the MSM narrative, so don’t expect them to bring that up. Conservative media can exploit this if they don’t overplay their hand and try to elicit support of the Republicans: you have think beyond Trump and play the long game.
>But Rep. Jerry Nadler said Antifa was just a myth!
A myth that’s also totally awesome. Millennial/Zoomer ideology revolves around this passive-aggressive doublethink.
Why? Because that’s the world we were raised in, at the mercy of impersonal bureaucracies that you can only neutralize through “buzz words”, where you are basically always monitored and one resume gap-that could be caused for the most capricious reasons in the neoliberal world-could mean a permanently hobbled life, and where the game is to petition the authorities to take your side rather than change things yourself. Is it any wonder that mental illness has exploded?
Other generations had challenges that, for many, would have been harder. But for people trying to get off the ground in the first place, and there are more of them thanks to our systematic rentierizing and oligarchization of the economy, it’s a massive disadvantage to not be able to simply disappear and start over.
Anyone who sets up shop in Seattle can safely be assumed to be a bolshie –
so what standing do they claim?
“Mr. Hearns has had bad experiences with the police in his own life.”
– Gawd, I LOVE their euphemisms.
Pelosi
Why not? English orthography has always been a joke…..
heart/death/dearth/deal
blood/cool/door
Aughinleck…
Nancy Pelosi had a spat with Judy Woodruff of all people. Only Fox is carrying the story near as I can tell. All of the other news outlets return ads for Pelosi masquerading as news reports.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/nancy-pelosi-pbs-judy-woodruff-advocate-gop. Pelosi’s point was that if anyone asks her something she doesn’t want to be asked, or if they don’t phrase it the way she wants it phrased, they’re either a Republican, a Nazi, a Russian, a White Supremacist, or (most likely) all of the above.
From (((Steven Pinker)))’s The Blank Slate:
Nellie Bly was the pen name of a late 19th century New York reporter who went around the world in 72 Days:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly
"She ran her company as a model of social welfare, replete with health benefits and recreational facilities. But Bly was hopeless at understanding the financial aspects of her business and ultimately lost everything. Unscrupulous employees bilked the firm of hundreds of thousands of dollars, troubles compounded by a protracted and costly bankruptcy litigation."
All women are like that (AWALT).
Notice how the NYT backed down when Tucker Carlson suggested their folks could be doxxed too? Woke for thee but not for me.
If you voted for politicians who eschewed the needs of the many to virtue signal their blackety black blah wokeness ie ignoring the vast majority to ameliorate and assuage a tiny minority then they need to be charged with dereliction of duty and Not allowed to hold public office ever again. These spineless capitulators Who OPENLY EGGED ON The RIOTING right from the outset BEFORE the facts on Floyd were in should be sued back to the Stone Age and serve prison time.
Did someone flip the switch on these riots ……..suddenly Wheeler is all hard -ass and the NYTs is turning sour ………internal polling must be bad ………Does Trump win again?
It's all planned, bought and paid for. Protests do not suddenly "erupt" and just as suddenly end, like some 1950s musical where the characters spontaneously burst into song and are instantly surrounded by three dozen dancers in spangled tightsReplies: @Anon
Not so peaceful protests expected in Colindale (North London) today after a 14 year old black kid was arrested yesterday on suspicion of street dealing (police found 13 bags of cannabis at or near the scene).
Two activists from a local tax-n-trust-funded black organisation
https://www.4frontproject.org/about
Got in the face of the police and were themselves arrested. (Police deleted this tweet for being too near the truth i.e. “provocative”)
Other people blockaded the station last night and another arrest was made. Demo planned for 1 pm UK time, shout outs from all far-left and GoodWhite accounts to come and join. The usual suspects will be hoping for a re-run of the 2011 riots, which also coincided with the first year of a Conservative government.
It’s damn hot in London at present. The same people who tried to get Dominic Cummings cancelled for sitting in a car for 400 miles will be linking arms on the sweaty, sticky streets. The usual modus operandui is – demo all day, riot after dark – but I think this may start early, certainly there’ll be people who want it to.
They never stop lying and misleading. Ever.
The main tactic is lying by omission (e.g. that elderly couple visiting their son’s grave), or by leaving out the race of the perp, as here.
The second technique is to slip in the descriptive phrase: “Thoroughly discredited,” “citing no evidence,” “but many say,” “contrary to most experts,” “but studies show just the opposite,” “far right” extremists.”
Guilt by association: “A position long advocated by far right and neo-Nazi groups.”
And of course, “Twitter exploded in outrage…” As if that speaks for everybody.
Without ever mentioning that Twitter consensus has been rigged by throwing thousands of people (including moi) off for opposing the racist Left.
Whenever Serco is mentioned, I get flashbacks. I was there when DasFleet was privatised.
There’s a folk song called “Nellie Bly” that is very charming but easy to play. It was one of the first things I learned, when I was starting to play piano, age five. Not that it matters, but it has a lot of sentimental value for me.
The comments are brutal to the narrative.
And Les wins the Internet today with this fine example of Poe’s Law:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
David Cole:
“Prior to launching their police defunding campaign, leftists already knew the firmness of their legal ground. DeShaney and Gonzales are two SCOTUS decisions, products of the conservative majority … yet beloved by (and hugely useful to) leftists. Simplified, SCOTUS ruled that you have no legal right to police protection. That’s why city leaders in hellholes like Portland, Seattle, and New York can legally do what they’re doing. They have absolutely no obligation to provide police protection for their citizens. The left’s beloved anarcho-tyranny is not a violation of your rights. As my favorite constitutional law scholar Eugene Volokh told me last week, “The remedy for inadequate policing is political—retaliation against elected officials at the polls—and not legal.”
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-waning-luxury-of-being-color-blind/
Cole explains that city leaders are not legally enforced to protect their citizens, but they are well enforced to care about equal treatment, so the shopkeepers can only win a lawsuit if they show that they are whites and have been subject to an anti-white activity.
I have never heard about DeShaney and Gonzales – the Seattle gay shopkeepers either, I presume -, and I would like Steve to enlighten us about this matter.
What is going on at the NY Times? How did this get published? The writer has an interesting background …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bowles
… but you need an editor or six on board to get something like this in the Times.
http://www.nelliebowles.com
Lesbian, apparently, 31 years old (from her Linkedin account):
One of her archived Times articles is about how gay penguins are better parents.
Attended an elite California boarding school:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cate_School
… as well as an elite private school in an elite SF neighborhood:
https://www.hamlin.org/
Then Columbia, Rhodes Scholar finalist, Fulbright fellow.
Did you know that Dorothy Kilgallen of What’s My Line (best time killer on YouTube) fame did something similar?
She only heard about the event a short while before it started, so after convincing her editor to let her go she had to get zillions of visas and tickets.
Don’t forget: Umbrella Man single-handedly set off the orgy of looting and burning in Minneapolis. Otherwise it was a peaceful protest/department store crawl.
Every single person who wants to abolish the police should visit a big jail. In a big jail you you have every stripe of criminal. Everything from guys who failed to pay a stack of tickets and pissed off a judge to guys who’ve killed their neighbor and barbequed their dog on the front lawn.
Those with eyes and ears would learn. The rest would be a salutary lesson for the salvageable.
Good comment.
I suppose it has always been so, e.g. the medieval Church and the King’s court; institutions we like to think we are beyond, but evidently not.
You can purchase AntiFa merchandise on Amazon last I looked. Does Bezos still live in Seattle? Hopefully the people that buy merchandise on his website will pay his mansion a visit.
I think you’re hopeful but I hope you’re right.
I wonder if Mr. Khan has defaulted on his SBA loan.
The CHAZ folks made the mistake of protesting outside Jenny Durkan’s home, led by some obnoxious Indian lady.
The cops were unleashed and within a few hours the CHAZ was cleared.
Don’t mess with the people who count.
The readers’ comments on that piece and the NYT’s treatment of them are instructive and completely unsurprising. Many of the most reader-recommended comments are harshly critical of the paper’s unapologetic whitewashing of the CHAZ business in all of its earlier coverage, yet nowhere does that criticism appear in the “Times Picks.”
New York Times readers are adept at finding out about something late, like a new restaurant or art exhibit, and pretending they knew about it all along.
Black Lives Matter has learned a lot about organizational methods and planning from the white man. Badges, Business cards, the works. Not to mention protection money rackets.
Mr. Soros must be happy to see his money put to good use.
It seems like most middle-class blacks make a living shaking down whitey for something or other, instead of earning it honestly. They have their jobs because of affirmative action, not because they were the best person to hire.
I have zero sympathy for the gay brown Muslim man who undoubtedly voted for the politicians that called off the police for over a month. Then they have the gall to sue the city for enacting policies they themselves voted for! I bet Mr Khan even blacked out his social media in solidarity with the Bureau of Land Management and talked about how evil racist cops oppressed his brown body. They paid the price for their beliefs and now want the city to bail them out
That’s what happened with Occupy Wall Street — now you see them, now you don’t, quietly gone just about overnight. When the polling tanked, you can assume.
It’s all planned, bought and paid for. Protests do not suddenly “erupt” and just as suddenly end, like some 1950s musical where the characters spontaneously burst into song and are instantly surrounded by three dozen dancers in spangled tights
Recruiters are obviously sent to wealthy college kids at whatever venues (school social scene, College Democrats, following graduate assistants to organized meetings, whatever). Only relatively wealthy people could take 2 months off to occupy anything. Thats how I knew it wasnt organic. People were living thete. No "shifts" that the employed would have to peruse.
The recruiters would be paid by someone.....
The politicians are sucking up to the lefties because they want to be re-elected. If facing a choice of losing a lawsuit or losing political office, they’ll lose the lawsuit. Taxpayers pay for the lawsuit. But the politicians pay for it personally if they lose their office. That’s more important to them than any lawsuit.
We need to press criminal charges against mayors who refuse to protect cities. The threat of jail time will make them react. We need to make it a Federal crime if a mayor blocks, thwarts, or interferes with police being able to protect the city. That way it’s 20 years in the big house if any of these liberal mayors side with the rioters.
It’s the only way to prevent another dozen Detroits from appearing.
Mr. Soros must be happy to see his money put to good use.Replies: @Anon
Poor blacks rob, but middle-class blacks have gotten organized enough to create a mafia.
It seems like most middle-class blacks make a living shaking down whitey for something or other, instead of earning it honestly. They have their jobs because of affirmative action, not because they were the best person to hire.
They can’t turn it off. Police are effectively defunded now nationally. Even a small percentage of black men around creates a massive crime wave that can only be addressed by the clamp-down. And that clamp down requires police to bet that their political masters will not throw them to the mob, charge them with crimes, put them in prison or even to death for some black criminal ending up dead.
After Ferguson, Chicago, Baltimore, Minneapolis, etc. that bet is not sustainable. No cop black or White would make that bet. So the cops that do remain will drive and wave. That’s all they will do, besides ticket White people for stuff and arrest Whites for self-defense. Anarcho-Tyranny here we come.
White women love it — its every Twilight movie and such come to life, with real life violence and their own Air BnB host / rapper / warlord of their own. They can be mini Kardashians. No wonder most White women support blm and most White men oppose it.
For everyone else, it will be hell. The charging of Mr. Jackie Lacey by Xavier Becerra shocked me, I figured he would leave a fellow Dem alone. It shows that the Soros faction is fully in charge of California at least and likely the entire Party. Since they not the Clintons now are the big money machine. Becerra would like to be Governor which takes money and that means going full Soros since the Clintons are no longer handing out campaign contributions to build their political machine.
The NYT can run a single article midlly critical of anti-fa and blm. Meanwhile Soros is handing out money like crazy to make sure the police are totally defunded and black criminals can do as they want.
Anti fa have already come into the suburbs, and the NFAC are marching around in White Georgia and Missouri suburbs. Pulling motorists out of cars if they are White and beating them — and the cops do nothing because THEY ARE THE LAW. Just as anti-fa ARE THE LAW.
It will only grow, and massively, when not if Biden wins in a landslide. He’s too weak and indebted to Soros money and Soros not him controls the Dem party through money. Every Soros funded anti-fa and blm operator knows they will have lots of “fun” breaking into the suburbs and enacting the Purge movies which are the model for the Soros left. And that is EXACTLY Soros plan. He wants a reaction from the suburbs, so that there will be support for a military regime which will be hard-left Pol Pot style and will let him totally loot the country.
That’s his whole motivation — GREED. He wants to destroy the US like he wanted to destroy Thailand, or Malaysia, or Israel, or Hungary. Just so he can loot the remains.
Are you nuts?
Calm down, man.
And that’s coming from a woman.
Looks like BLM is bad for the Coalition of Fringes. It turns out that gay and immigrant business owners like having the cops protect their businesses from looters and riots.
The main tactic is lying by omission (e.g. that elderly couple visiting their son's grave), or by leaving out the race of the perp, as here.
The second technique is to slip in the descriptive phrase: "Thoroughly discredited," "citing no evidence," "but many say," "contrary to most experts," "but studies show just the opposite," "far right" extremists."
Guilt by association: "A position long advocated by far right and neo-Nazi groups."
And of course, "Twitter exploded in outrage..." As if that speaks for everybody.Replies: @ChrisZ, @Nicholas Stix
Another despicable tactic: “experts say…”
Dog that did not bark department: scan for “extortion” or “intimidation” in the New Duranty Times article. Well, I guess that settles it!
Seattle residents who had to live under the Antifa occupation in the CHOP/SPAZ are afraid to speak out for fear of retribution if they do so. They are intimidated by masked men wearing pointy
robeshoodies who sometimes carry guns but are always ready to use violence for political ends.It’s almost as if we are witnessing the birth of a nation.
Then she married an aging industrialist and took over his company after he died.
“She ran her company as a model of social welfare, replete with health benefits and recreational facilities. But Bly was hopeless at understanding the financial aspects of her business and ultimately lost everything. Unscrupulous employees bilked the firm of hundreds of thousands of dollars, troubles compounded by a protracted and costly bankruptcy litigation.”
All women are like that (AWALT).
The cops were unleashed and within a few hours the CHAZ was cleared.
Don't mess with the people who count.Replies: @Dave3
Affluent White Female Liberals turn into Law-and-Order Nazis the moment they sense a threat to their personal safety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray-Hill_riot
Ted Wheeler:
I’m cool with the property destruction and maiming people with lasers. That’s all good clean cosplay fun. But you gotta stop now cause it’s bad visuals and helps Trump.
Your post is on the mark.Replies: @Dissident
Mr. Khan belongs back in the middle east. He can be “comfortably out” there.
Judy Woodruff appears to have a biography of Ulysses S. Grant on her shelves. That alone makes her a white supremacist in 2020.
Knock the NYT's disinformation techniques all you want, people--they're very effective.
Remember that politics is like advertising: You don't have to fool the smart people, you have only to fool the most people.Replies: @Richard B, @Knox
True.
Which is exactly why what we’re really witnessing is nothing less than
One would hope that mainstream cons would have taken notice of this example that fighting fire with fire, or that the best defense is a good offense, and learned from it.
Alas, this hope is likely misplaced.
The main tactic is lying by omission (e.g. that elderly couple visiting their son's grave), or by leaving out the race of the perp, as here.
The second technique is to slip in the descriptive phrase: "Thoroughly discredited," "citing no evidence," "but many say," "contrary to most experts," "but studies show just the opposite," "far right" extremists."
Guilt by association: "A position long advocated by far right and neo-Nazi groups."
And of course, "Twitter exploded in outrage..." As if that speaks for everybody.Replies: @ChrisZ, @Nicholas Stix
“Twitter exploded in outrage…”
Without ever mentioning that Twitter consensus has been rigged by throwing thousands of people (including moi) off for opposing the racist Left.
The Democrats definitely have a problem.
In their arrogant minoritarian stupidity they thought “Let’s let the oppressed blacks show they’ve had enough of those racist white gentiles and their oppression … Trump will be toast.”
Problem is the deplorable white gentiles aren’t the ones who need the police. We predominately do not live in the Democrat cities. If in the big metro areas we tend to live in white suburbs. Many of us are small town and rural. In general–outside the south–our areas don’t tend to have many blacks and are low crime. And we are armed. Take away police and we are capable of dealing with the little crime in our areas ourselves.
It is precisely white liberals, living “the good life” in big metros, who really need to have police–and especially to have the police messing with blacks. (Sure, they are trying to push blacks out to the boonies with Section 8 and AFFH … but they’re a long ways off yet.)
Defund the police? Go ahead … and pass the popcorn.
I notice senile Joe came out against it — a sure sign he, or his handlers, know it’s a dumb idea.
I think the vast majority of antifa are pretty comfortable with the fact that they serve Big Capital, and are extrajudicial enforcers for The Man.
You seem strangely astonished by chutzpah; it’s par for the course in west Asian populations. And it makes sense, when you think about it – how can brown guy score big in a depolicing lawsuit without first having a leftist gov’t in place?
Non compos mentis. And you put on this embarrassing display of Rube Goldberg logic solely to avoid facing the truth: the regime running this country into the ground is a jevvish one.
I have an idea. Let’s replace the various mayors and governors with the now-obligatory annoying mimes perpetually grandstanding behind/beside them on behalf of what one must assume are the tens of millions of deaf-mutes hanging on to every acted-out word of every local press conference. They can’t be any more selfish or incompetent than the public “servants” they’re translating into Basic Spazz – but they might be incrementally less traitorous to the Constitution!
I always liked watching the news broadcasts for the deaf as a child, with sign language, a rolling large print script on the screen, and a slow talking narrator. This was 20-25 years ago, and it was established then. It's not new. No one objects to it, and it makes you look petty, mean spirited and childish to keep trying to bring it up. (And contrary to seeming popular belief, live subtitles are both worse in quality and harder to do.)
It's like objecting to the increasing use of audio books, on the grounds that only X% of people are blind/visually impaired. Sure, but most people would like them to have reading material, it's not costing *that* much and hey, a lot of people with good sight enjoy them too.
I’m cool with the property destruction and maiming people with lasers. That’s all good clean cosplay fun. But you gotta stop now cause it’s bad visuals and helps Trump.Replies: @Inquiring Mind
Hit the wrong button.
Your post is on the mark.
Knock the NYT's disinformation techniques all you want, people--they're very effective.
Remember that politics is like advertising: You don't have to fool the smart people, you have only to fool the most people.Replies: @Richard B, @Knox
Do they also want to defend the police ?
Who do they want to protect the protestors from the extreme right racists ?
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Isn’t being deaf these days effectively a choice?
Putin dropped in a Russian SpecOps team to sabotage the largely peaceful protest I hear, meanwhile back in the real world, the latest I’ve heard is that Minneapolis could lose one-third of it’s police department ( early retirement ) by the end of the year, and because of the coronavirus there is no money to hire replacements. I guess they will find out what not having a police department is like, despite the police referendum not being on the ballot.
It's all planned, bought and paid for. Protests do not suddenly "erupt" and just as suddenly end, like some 1950s musical where the characters spontaneously burst into song and are instantly surrounded by three dozen dancers in spangled tightsReplies: @Anon
100% Known Fact.
Recruiters are obviously sent to wealthy college kids at whatever venues (school social scene, College Democrats, following graduate assistants to organized meetings, whatever). Only relatively wealthy people could take 2 months off to occupy anything. Thats how I knew it wasnt organic. People were living thete. No “shifts” that the employed would have to peruse.
The recruiters would be paid by someone…..
Who do they want to protect the protestors from the extreme right racists ?Replies: @Mr McKenna
You’re trying to make their brains explode, aren’t you.
“Young white men wielding guns.”
Not TECHNICALLY a lie. The Talmud is strong in this one.
Couldn’t Mr. Khan simply have moved to Austin?
I have been informed that Austin is like San Francisco in Texas, sans people casually defecating in the streets. Is that correct?
Of course, “more comfortably be out,” could also be read as, “enjoys sporting dildo hat during Gay Pride parades,” in which case, Seattle really does seem the ideal place for him.
No doubt there are small towns when it might be socially uncomfortable to be openly homosexual, but I suspect that is true in many states. But there would be very little threat of physical harm. The days of going to parks at night in order to “roll queers” are long past. I think the major threat to homosexual safety is their disproportionate participation in neighborhood gentrification; like all pioneers, they face violence at the hands of indigenous people.Replies: @Dissident, @Anonymousse
They all support Black Lives Matter, huh?
I’ll bet they do, as the journalists will dox them if they express any reservations whatsoever.
It must be great to live in a free country…
In their arrogant minoritarian stupidity they thought "Let's let the oppressed blacks show they've had enough of those racist white gentiles and their oppression ... Trump will be toast."
Problem is the deplorable white gentiles aren't the ones who need the police. We predominately do not live in the Democrat cities. If in the big metro areas we tend to live in white suburbs. Many of us are small town and rural. In general--outside the south--our areas don't tend to have many blacks and are low crime. And we are armed. Take away police and we are capable of dealing with the little crime in our areas ourselves.
It is precisely white liberals, living "the good life" in big metros, who really need to have police--and especially to have the police messing with blacks. (Sure, they are trying to push blacks out to the boonies with Section 8 and AFFH ... but they're a long ways off yet.)
Defund the police? Go ahead ... and pass the popcorn.Replies: @Celt Darnell
I don’t disagree, except that I think the Dems lost control of this golem some time ago. Even the least intelligent Dem pol understands at some level that campaigning to abolish the police is electoral suicide.
I notice senile Joe came out against it — a sure sign he, or his handlers, know it’s a dumb idea.
I have been informed that Austin is like San Francisco in Texas, sans people casually defecating in the streets. Is that correct?
Of course, "more comfortably be out," could also be read as, "enjoys sporting dildo hat during Gay Pride parades," in which case, Seattle really does seem the ideal place for him.Replies: @FPD72
Mr. Khan must have moved a LONG time ago. Even Texas A&M (Aggies) elected a homosexual student body president, although much to the chagrin of Rick Perry. My city councilman is a gay activist ( but then, I do live in Austin). The sheriff in Dallas County is a lesbian. Some Dallas and Houston neighborhoods are heavily homosexual.
No doubt there are small towns when it might be socially uncomfortable to be openly homosexual, but I suspect that is true in many states. But there would be very little threat of physical harm. The days of going to parks at night in order to “roll queers” are long past. I think the major threat to homosexual safety is their disproportionate participation in neighborhood gentrification; like all pioneers, they face violence at the hands of indigenous people.
HIV Among Gay and Bisexual Men
But sure I think back in the 90’s uh matthew sheppard or brandon teena or something... although that also turned out to have actually been over drugs anyway. So more like on that documentary Law and Order than the real case, but you get the idea.Replies: @Dissident
So, we are finally told that the armed white guys are “antifa” (but not Antifa) 1,337 words into the article
And I’m the first to kick the leet joke here? The only way this would have been more appropriate is if it would have been the 1,488th word in the article.
Not at all astonished, Lebanese and high caste Indians have always acted like Jews in the diaspora. I just have no sympathy, and saying it out loud makes the deception clear
Remember those guys who crashed the planes into the World Trade Center? They were protestors.
No, what they were voting for is for the government to give them whitey’s stuff, effectively. Which is why appeals to blacks or other groups on the basis of some kind of muh values conservatism inc. gibberish will never work. You’re never going to beat “vote for me and I’ll give you whitey’s stuff.” Especially not with some shopworn 1960s nonsense that the passage of time has proven false. Not that these people voting for whitey’s stuff would be able to figure out why it’s false, or even care. Libertarian types assume you can just tell Paco, Shitavious and Ahmed about ideological constructs like The Free Market which even if these people had the intelligence to logically work out what this purely ivory tower construct supposedly means, would determine it’s not in their interest compared to voting for whitey’s stuff.
There are some Peace Rioters who need to get Peace Arrested and sent to a Peaceful Prison how dose that sound?
After Ferguson, Chicago, Baltimore, Minneapolis, etc. that bet is not sustainable. No cop black or White would make that bet. So the cops that do remain will drive and wave. That's all they will do, besides ticket White people for stuff and arrest Whites for self-defense. Anarcho-Tyranny here we come.
White women love it -- its every Twilight movie and such come to life, with real life violence and their own Air BnB host / rapper / warlord of their own. They can be mini Kardashians. No wonder most White women support blm and most White men oppose it.
For everyone else, it will be hell. The charging of Mr. Jackie Lacey by Xavier Becerra shocked me, I figured he would leave a fellow Dem alone. It shows that the Soros faction is fully in charge of California at least and likely the entire Party. Since they not the Clintons now are the big money machine. Becerra would like to be Governor which takes money and that means going full Soros since the Clintons are no longer handing out campaign contributions to build their political machine.
The NYT can run a single article midlly critical of anti-fa and blm. Meanwhile Soros is handing out money like crazy to make sure the police are totally defunded and black criminals can do as they want.
Anti fa have already come into the suburbs, and the NFAC are marching around in White Georgia and Missouri suburbs. Pulling motorists out of cars if they are White and beating them -- and the cops do nothing because THEY ARE THE LAW. Just as anti-fa ARE THE LAW.
It will only grow, and massively, when not if Biden wins in a landslide. He's too weak and indebted to Soros money and Soros not him controls the Dem party through money. Every Soros funded anti-fa and blm operator knows they will have lots of "fun" breaking into the suburbs and enacting the Purge movies which are the model for the Soros left. And that is EXACTLY Soros plan. He wants a reaction from the suburbs, so that there will be support for a military regime which will be hard-left Pol Pot style and will let him totally loot the country.
That's his whole motivation -- GREED. He wants to destroy the US like he wanted to destroy Thailand, or Malaysia, or Israel, or Hungary. Just so he can loot the remains.Replies: @Anon
“ White women love it — its every Twilight movie and such come to life, with real life violence and their own Air BnB host / rapper / warlord of their own. They can be mini Kardashians. No wonder most White women support blm and most White men oppose it.”
Are you nuts?
Calm down, man.
And that’s coming from a woman.
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Friendly advice: stop trying to make fetch happen. The people you need to win over (and many you already have) are neutral to positive on this. If nothing else, it’s puzzling that you’re expending so much (any) energy on this.
I always liked watching the news broadcasts for the deaf as a child, with sign language, a rolling large print script on the screen, and a slow talking narrator. This was 20-25 years ago, and it was established then. It’s not new. No one objects to it, and it makes you look petty, mean spirited and childish to keep trying to bring it up. (And contrary to seeming popular belief, live subtitles are both worse in quality and harder to do.)
It’s like objecting to the increasing use of audio books, on the grounds that only X% of people are blind/visually impaired. Sure, but most people would like them to have reading material, it’s not costing *that* much and hey, a lot of people with good sight enjoy them too.
Possibly it’s because we have never had so many grandstanding local politicians hogging the teevee announcing their virtue on a daily basis. Possibly it’s because the recession has hit mimes hardest of all – time was when a man could feed his family on walking against the wind for lunchtime crowds and tourists…..no more.
But the sheer number of these folks, and the shameless theatricality of their spazzing, is such that their entertainment value has sadly deteriorated from hilarious to annoying. Perhaps there are now too damn many of them, all competing with one another. Or maybe there’s something about watching our major cities collapsing and burning before subhuman mobs who can no longer be turned off with a Soros finger-snap that simply leaches all the good cheer out of a fellow. They could all be replaced with simple subtitles tomorrow, although I’m sure there are plenty of posturing Boss Democrats who would sorely miss the instant distraction from their extra-Constitutional bullying.
Well, in a world that’s learned (i.e., been forced) to accept trannies, bronies, Desmond Is Amazing and Rachel Dolezal, it wouldn’t surprise me to discover that there are now more people wishing they were deaf-mutes than actual deaf-mutes.
It should surprise me but , you know….. fetch happens.
Your post is on the mark.Replies: @Dissident
You should be able to change a “reaction” by simply clicking the one you intended.
No doubt there are small towns when it might be socially uncomfortable to be openly homosexual, but I suspect that is true in many states. But there would be very little threat of physical harm. The days of going to parks at night in order to “roll queers” are long past. I think the major threat to homosexual safety is their disproportionate participation in neighborhood gentrification; like all pioneers, they face violence at the hands of indigenous people.Replies: @Dissident, @Anonymousse
I think a greater risk than that for homosexually active males is their disproportionate participation in high-risk sexual practices* and recreational drug use (often directly related). If the anarchy worsens or even continues unabated, however, I suppose the threat it poses could eventually surpass that of wanton promiscuity.
*The statistics speak for themselves: Gay and Bisexual Men’s Health
HIV Among Gay and Bisexual Men
Sounds like a libertarian paradise!
No doubt there are small towns when it might be socially uncomfortable to be openly homosexual, but I suspect that is true in many states. But there would be very little threat of physical harm. The days of going to parks at night in order to “roll queers” are long past. I think the major threat to homosexual safety is their disproportionate participation in neighborhood gentrification; like all pioneers, they face violence at the hands of indigenous people.Replies: @Dissident, @Anonymousse
Another threat to homosexual safety would be all the meth and cocaine… also having their rectum distended and losing bowel control from being anally traumatize by dozens of strange men with a variety of incurable diseases. There’s also the danger of being killed by the mentally ill homosexual they might have an open relationship with… or by the person by far most likely to kill them, namely themselves
But sure I think back in the 90’s uh matthew sheppard or brandon teena or something… although that also turned out to have actually been over drugs anyway. So more like on that documentary Law and Order than the real case, but you get the idea.
But sure I think back in the 90’s uh matthew sheppard or brandon teena or something... although that also turned out to have actually been over drugs anyway. So more like on that documentary Law and Order than the real case, but you get the idea.Replies: @Dissident
Indeed. I neglected to include murder and suicide in my comment just above in which I mentioned or at least alluded-to the rest of the threats to homosexualy-active males that you did.