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From the New York Times news section:

Psychiatry Confronts Its Racist Past, and Tries to Make Amends
But there is a lot to apologize for — from Reconstruction to today.

By Judith Warner
April 30, 2021

… In the late 20th century, psychiatry’s rank and file became a receptive audience for drug makers who were willing to tap into racist fears about urban crime and social unrest. (“Assaultive and belligerent?” read an ad that featured a Black man with a raised fist that appeared in the “Archives of General Psychiatry” in 1974. “Cooperation often begins with Haldol.”)

Now the American Psychiatric Association, which featured Rush’s image on its logo until 2015, is confronting that painful history and trying to make amends.

In January, the 176-year-old group issued its first-ever apology for its racist past. Acknowledging “appalling past actions” on the part of the profession, its governing board committed the association to “identifying, understanding, and rectifying our past injustices,” and pledged to institute “anti-racist practices” aimed at ending the inequities of the past in care, research, education and leadership.

White psychiatrists have pathologized Black behavior for hundreds of years, wrapping up racist beliefs in the mantle of scientific certainty and even big data.

… Psychiatry continued to pathologize — and sometimes demonize — African-Americans, with the result that, by the 1970s, the diagnosis of psychosis was handed out so often that the profession was essentially “turning schizophrenia into a Black man’s disorder of aggression and agitation,” said Dr. Hairston, a contributor to the 2019 book, “Racism and Psychiatry.”

From the World Journal of Psychiatry in 2014:

Racial disparities in psychotic disorder diagnosis: A review of empirical literature

Robert C Schwartz and David M Blankenship

Psychotic disorder diagnoses are common in the United States and internationally. However, racial disparities in rates of psychotic disorder diagnoses have been reported across time and mental health professions. This literature review provides an updated and comprehensive summary of empirical research on race and diagnosis of psychotic disorders spanning a 24-year period. Findings reveal a clear and pervasive pattern wherein African American/Black consumers show a rate of on average three to four higher than Euro-American/White consumers. Latino American/Hispanic consumers were also disproportionately diagnosed with psychotic disorders on average approximately three times higher compared to Euro-American/White consumers. In addition, a trend among international studies suggests that immigrant racial minority consumers receiving mental health services may be assigned a psychotic disorder diagnosis more frequently than native consumers sharing a majority racial background. Potential explanations for this phenomenon are discussed, including possible clinical bias and sociological causes such as differential access to healthcare and willingness to participate in mental health services. Directions for future research should include the exploration of disproportionate diagnoses according to race through qualitative interviewing as well as empirical investigation.

Another possible reason that blacks get diagnosed with schizophrenia so much is to help them get Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity verdicts for their high average level of violent crimes.

For example, currently, seemingly random attacks on Asian-Americans are much in the news. For example, from CBS Local News in San Francisco today:

Source: Man Arrested For Stabbing 2 Asian Woman in San Francisco Has Lengthy Arrest History

By Betty Yu May 6, 2021 at 6:24 am

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) — The man arrested for an unprovoked stabbing attack on two elderly Asian women in San Francisco has a long history of arrests, according to a police source.

San Francisco police identified the man as 54-year-old Patrick Thompson of San Francisco. A law enforcement source provided a surveillance image to KPIX 5 that was circulated among officers to find Thompson following the Tuesday attack on Market Street.

A witness snapped a photo of the same person from the back, moments after the attack at the bus stop that injured 84-year-old Chui Fong Eng and an unidentified 63-year-old Asian woman. …

According to a law enforcement source, Thompson has been arrested more than two dozen times in the last 20 years. He was placed under a psychiatric hold at least once. In 2019, he was arrested for battery.

KPIX 5 has learned that in 2017, he was arrested for stabbing a person at this homeless shelter on 5th and Bryant Streets with a pair of scissors. Police say it was another unprovoked attack.

My general impression is that non-robbery (i.e., irrational) lone wolf random attacks on people of other races are sometimes committed by youths showing off, but often by guys like Mr. Thompson with long track records of violence, who should be locked up, whether in prison or an asylum. The latter category tends to be heavily black male, even in San Francisco, a city with few blacks anymore (and a lot of white street people), because the Venn diagram of the intersection of Violent and Crazy is disproportionately populated by black men.

 
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  1. Defund psychiatry. Nuttier than the fruitcakes they treat.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Sergeant Prepper

    Psychiatry is a waste of an M.D. They're basically psychologists/therapists with the authority to prescribe medications. And for this you need 10 years of post-graduate training?

  2. Wokes should be apologizing to women, too.

    https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/depression-in-women/

    Depression in Women: 5 Things You Should Know

    ……………………….

    Depression is more common among women than men, likely due to certain biological, hormonal, and social factors that are unique to women.
    …………………………………………………………….

    That’s sexist. You cannot denounce racism without apologizing for sexism.

    You white guys have a long way to go …..

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Bardon Kaldian


    You white guys have a long way to go …..
     
    And the beatings will continue, well, forever.
  3. It’s basically impossible to make a trip on the New York City subways anymore without running across one or two blacks who are obviously mentally deranged. Sorry for my racist comment.

    • Agree: Polistra, Patrick in SC
    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
    • LOL: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @John Up North
    @peterike

    Try walking around Chicago.

    , @Achilleus
    @peterike


    It’s basically impossible to make a trip on the New York City subways anymore without running across one or two blacks who are obviously mentally deranged.
     
    Same on the LA Metro. Or just walking downtown.
    , @GamecockJerry
    @peterike

    Not racist - just redundant.

  4. Maybe higher IQ serves to mediate psychotic tendencies or channel them into more functional behaviours?

    The example of John Nash notwithstanding, schizophrenia is strongly inversely correlated with IQ.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Goingblankagain

    'Maybe higher IQ serves to mediate psychotic tendencies or channel them into more functional behaviours?'

    That seems likely to me.

  5. OT iSteve bait from the formidable Nicholas Wade… YetAnotherAnon indicated Wade’s piece on the origins of Covid 19 in another comment thread, and it would be a shame for it to get lost in the shuffle. The article is a great read and extremely persuasive: https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Thanks: Poirot
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @slumber_j

    Nicholas Wade pretty much blows open what these evil scum were up to in their virology labs. The way they did their holy grail called gain of function research in lab conditions that were far from secure. Chaotic as a Chinese fire drill.


    A second reason for the severe danger of novel coronaviruses has to do with the required levels of lab safety. There are four degrees of safety, designated BSL1 to BSL4, with BSL4 being the most restrictive and designed for deadly pathogens like the Ebola virus.

    The Wuhan Institute of Virology had a new BSL4 lab, but its state of readiness considerably alarmed the State Department inspectors who visited it from the Beijing embassy in 2018. “The new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” the inspectors wrote in a cable of January 19, 2018.

    The real problem, however, was not the unsafe state of the Wuhan BSL4 lab but the fact that virologists worldwide don’t like working in BSL4 conditions. You have to wear a space suit, do operations in closed cabinets, and accept that everything will take twice as long. So the rules assigning each kind of virus to a given safety level were laxer than some might think was prudent.

    Before 2020, the rules followed by virologists in China and elsewhere required that experiments with the SARS1 and MERS viruses be conducted in BSL3 conditions. But all other bat coronaviruses could be studied in BSL2, the next level down. BSL2 requires taking fairly minimal safety precautions, such as wearing lab coats and gloves, not sucking up liquids in a pipette, and putting up biohazard warning signs. Yet a gain-of-function experiment conducted in BSL2 might produce an agent more infectious than either SARS1 or MERS. And if it did, then lab workers would stand a high chance of infection, especially if unvaccinated.

    Much of Shi’s work on gain-of-function in coronaviruses was performed at the BSL2 safety level, as is stated in her publications and other documents. She has said in an interview with Science magazine that “[t]he coronavirus research in our laboratory is conducted in BSL-2 or BSL-3 laboratories.”

    “It is clear that some or all of this work was being performed using a biosafety standard — biosafety level 2, the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office — that would pose an unacceptably high risk of infection of laboratory staff upon contact with a virus having the transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2,” Ebright says.
     
    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @slumber_j

  6. Uh, if you get on Black Twitter and Twitter of Color on general you will see that they AGREE that there is a racism problem.

    You will find that most People of Color agree with following: not just medical education but all of medicine and our institutions are based on a caste system built on white supremacy

    The only people who disagree? white males

    Interesting that most mental health professionals agree with the article and are committed to change

    That tells you something right there

    • Replies: @fish
    @Tiny Duck

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C~EAAOSwNsdeZDSJ/s-l1600.jpg

  7. Bizarre that they refer to patients as “consumers”

    • Agree: gandydancer, sayless
  8. Altai says:

    Recently the Dallas Cowboys drafted Osa Odighizuwa from UCLA. His older brother Owa Odighizuwa was drafed in 2015 with the New York Giants. It brought up again the fact that their father, Peter Odighizuwa, an immigrant from Nigeria, killed 3 white people and injured 3 others in a mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law. An incident that would be widely known and covered if they were white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

    There was a puff piece (As much for his mother as for him) and implicit lay out to the rest of the media how the media should cover this (If they can’t avoid it) when Owa was drafted and contained much iSteve content.

    https://nypost.com/2015/05/09/a-murderous-father-a-battered-loving-mother-rooks-long-road-to-giants/

    Abieyuwa Odighizuwa’s first instinct was to protect her four young sons, but how was this possible? The oldest, 9-year-old Owa, feared he had rage inside him, like his father, feared he, too, was capable of inflicting harm and causing chaos.

    “He was so scared,’’ said the mother, called AB by everyone, dating back to when she was a child in Nigeria. “He was so scared. He told me, ‘Mom, I don’t want to be like my dad.’ And I told him, as long as I’m alive that’s not gonna happen.’

    Just to be clear, he didn’t ever get near his own family with the gun if he had any intent to and was taken alive at the university.

    There was so much for Owa to overcome. He and his second brother, Ighodaro — called Iggy by everyone — were shipped off to Nigeria when Owa was 3 and Iggy was 2, sent away by their broken-hearted mother, a five-year separation that allowed the boys to escape the indignities of the failing marriage of AB and Peter Odighizuwa.

    Owa, at a painfully young age, grew accustomed to hardship and separation. Child-care issues and marital instability forced AB, living at the time in Ohio and working in a hospital as a Certified Nurse Assistant, to make the gut-wrenching decision to send toddlers Owa and Iggy to live in her native Nigeria, with their grandmother, Peter’s mother.

    “I needed somebody that would be able to take care of the kids properly when I was at work, which was something their dad wasn’t willing to do most of the time,’’ AB said. “It was very difficult. I couldn’t go to a park and watch my kids play. That was one of the most devastating things.

    “It helped shape him a lot. In so many ways I can’t even describe. Nothing wrong with being with family, but there’s a difference between being with your parents and being with family members. He had to grow up. It has helped shape everything that he does.’’

    During the five years, AB only twice made it to Nigeria to see her boys.

    “It was not a very positive experience for me,’’ Owa said of his life in Nigeria. “A lot of physical abuse. Particularly on me. It’s weird. I wasn’t a bad kid.’’

    I don’t know how living with your grandparents for a few years is something to ‘overcome’ but it’s striking that they shipped them off so young, West African parenting patterns even when it involves a transatlantic flight and disrupts the children’s integration into the American education system.

    In the aftermath, it was determined Peter Odighizuwa, at the time 43 years old, had a history of mental instability. Dr. Jack Briggs, the country coroner, called him “a time-bomb waiting to go off’’ and stated it was “just a matter of him releasing his anger on the world, I guess.’’

    I don’t know, the two of them had a psycho father who abused them and have muscle tone that is extreme even by NFL standards, are they ticking time bombs too? I also like how they had 4 children despite neither having anything like the kind of income to do so and mom ships two of them off to her inlaws (Who apparently abused the two children) even while dad is still around. Were they that unruly? Doesn’t even go to see them more than 2 twice in 5 years. Low parental investment indeed.

    • Thanks: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Altai

    Altai, interesting that the mother, who usually gains custody, would ship her young sons off to Nigeria to escape "the indignities of a failing marriage." I was divorced and I know others who were too. None shipped their kids off. Most failing marriages include drama about visitation not exile. Strange story. Thank you.

    Replies: @Altai, @Gary in Gramercy

    , @Elli
    @Altai

    A Nigerian woman I knew, professional class, said many of her Nigerian friends planned to send their children back to Nigeria, to boarding school or relatives, by the age of 12 or so, to avoid American black influence in adolescence, and have them back in the US for college.

    Replies: @Altai, @AndrewR

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Altai

    I remember that incident, because of the two armed guys who disarmed him with their own weapons and their own guts. Thank God for them and their guns - this could have been way worse.

  9. It’s clear that it’s Whites who are pathologically mentally disturbed … only sociopaths could have developed the scientific method and conquered and modernised the known world, and the proceeded to let the conquered people be used by a cynical cabal to destroy all their accomplishments and themselves in less than a century.

  10. Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia while whites get more bipolar diagnoses. The studies I’ve read, however, are not all that consistent in their findings.

    What does seem fairly clear is that schizophrenia is about twice as common in urban as in rural populations. Suburbs are in between. Cochran thinks this is because it’s pathogenic in origin. I’m not so convinced by the crazy bug theory, but it’s food for thought.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Bill P

    It's social atomisation and isolation in big cities.

    https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/43/suppl_1/S37/3075454

    https://journals.lww.com/neuroreport/Fulltext/2017/06020/Social_isolation_induces_schizophrenia_like.8.aspx

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Bill P

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that's where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community--mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can't just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support--for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Reg Cæsar, @TWS, @Art Deco, @Anon, @J.Ross

    , @Elli
    @Bill P

    Black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean have much higher rates of schizophrenia in the US and the UK than they do in their native lands, also higher rates of autism, which rises the further north they go.

    Autism, schizophrenia, bipolar, major depression and ADHD share common genes but expression varies. Maybe stress is a trigger, maybe it is a vitamin D deficiency.

    Replies: @Feryl

    , @J.Ross
    @Bill P

    Psychology is still mostly fake but schizophrenia diagnosis is one of its solid hard science achievements: it's a chemical blood test.
    https://www.newsweek.com/blood-tests-detect-schizophrenia-mental-illness-493955

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Bill P


    Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia...
     
    Maybe it's weed.
  11. OT: National Review goes gaga over Tim Scott. Scott will show them Dems, that they are the “real racists”.

    Pure cuckbait.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/tim-scott-front-runner-for-2024/

    • Agree: gandydancer
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Daniel H

    Idk man, this is pretty based for NR:


    For this Tower of Babel to remain upright, the approximately half of Democrats who are Caucasian are going to have to remain quiescent if not enthusiastic about the white-hating revanchism being touted in the twice- or thrice-weekly preoccupation of the media in identifying, decrying, and promoting demonstrations about the latest episode of a white police officer shooting a (preferably underaged) unarmed black citizen. In this country of a third of a billion people, where firearms are so venerated, such incidents are numerous (though less frequent than those of the police shooting unarmed white people, which are not considered newsworthy)
     
    There is more explicitly anti-anti-white content too
  12. @Bill P
    Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia while whites get more bipolar diagnoses. The studies I've read, however, are not all that consistent in their findings.

    What does seem fairly clear is that schizophrenia is about twice as common in urban as in rural populations. Suburbs are in between. Cochran thinks this is because it's pathogenic in origin. I'm not so convinced by the crazy bug theory, but it's food for thought.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jonathan Mason, @Elli, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

  13. @Bill P
    Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia while whites get more bipolar diagnoses. The studies I've read, however, are not all that consistent in their findings.

    What does seem fairly clear is that schizophrenia is about twice as common in urban as in rural populations. Suburbs are in between. Cochran thinks this is because it's pathogenic in origin. I'm not so convinced by the crazy bug theory, but it's food for thought.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jonathan Mason, @Elli, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that’s where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community–mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can’t just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support–for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @Jonathan Mason

    Chicago Police say there's a lot of heroin in homeless encampments. I've noticed more homeless encampments in Chicago over the past few years. Some of the encampments actually block the sidewalk underpasses of North Lake Shore Drive that lead right up to the beaches. What a mess.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community–mainly because this is cheaper.
     
    Plus they are far more homogeneous than we, and actually have communities in which to treat them.

    Still, that didn't stop Martin Bryant, Thomas Hamilton, or Anders Breivik.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    , @TWS
    @Jonathan Mason

    Oh for God's sake would please stop talking about things you have neither the experience, nor education to understand? Tiny Duck is at least funny. You on the other hand are ignorant as dirt and less useful.

    , @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Clinical psychologists cannot do a bloody thing for schizophrenics.

    I'm sure there are schizophrenics who might benefit from occupational therapy, but among the menu of problems schizophrenics have, what's addressed by occupational therapy is not typically the principal impediment to them holding a job.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    , @Anon
    @Jonathan Mason

    Actually, let's abolish the ACLU.

    , @J.Ross
    @Jonathan Mason

    The reason people (including the Supreme Court) soured on institutionalization is actually illustrated by of all folks Geraldo Rivera near the start of his career.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDTr9XfWpI

  14. But there is a lot to apologize for — from Reconstruction to today.

    From Reconstruction?? Why stop there in historic terms, and not go back to Roman times…

  15. @Altai
    Recently the Dallas Cowboys drafted Osa Odighizuwa from UCLA. His older brother Owa Odighizuwa was drafed in 2015 with the New York Giants. It brought up again the fact that their father, Peter Odighizuwa, an immigrant from Nigeria, killed 3 white people and injured 3 others in a mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law. An incident that would be widely known and covered if they were white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

    There was a puff piece (As much for his mother as for him) and implicit lay out to the rest of the media how the media should cover this (If they can't avoid it) when Owa was drafted and contained much iSteve content.

    https://nypost.com/2015/05/09/a-murderous-father-a-battered-loving-mother-rooks-long-road-to-giants/

    Abieyuwa Odighizuwa’s first instinct was to protect her four young sons, but how was this possible? The oldest, 9-year-old Owa, feared he had rage inside him, like his father, feared he, too, was capable of inflicting harm and causing chaos.

    “He was so scared,’’ said the mother, called AB by everyone, dating back to when she was a child in Nigeria. “He was so scared. He told me, ‘Mom, I don’t want to be like my dad.’ And I told him, as long as I’m alive that’s not gonna happen.’
     
    Just to be clear, he didn't ever get near his own family with the gun if he had any intent to and was taken alive at the university.


    There was so much for Owa to overcome. He and his second brother, Ighodaro — called Iggy by everyone — were shipped off to Nigeria when Owa was 3 and Iggy was 2, sent away by their broken-hearted mother, a five-year separation that allowed the boys to escape the indignities of the failing marriage of AB and Peter Odighizuwa.

    ...

    Owa, at a painfully young age, grew accustomed to hardship and separation. Child-care issues and marital instability forced AB, living at the time in Ohio and working in a hospital as a Certified Nurse Assistant, to make the gut-wrenching decision to send toddlers Owa and Iggy to live in her native Nigeria, with their grandmother, Peter’s mother.

    “I needed somebody that would be able to take care of the kids properly when I was at work, which was something their dad wasn’t willing to do most of the time,’’ AB said. “It was very difficult. I couldn’t go to a park and watch my kids play. That was one of the most devastating things.

    “It helped shape him a lot. In so many ways I can’t even describe. Nothing wrong with being with family, but there’s a difference between being with your parents and being with family members. He had to grow up. It has helped shape everything that he does.’’

    During the five years, AB only twice made it to Nigeria to see her boys.

    “It was not a very positive experience for me,’’ Owa said of his life in Nigeria. “A lot of physical abuse. Particularly on me. It’s weird. I wasn’t a bad kid.’’

     

    I don't know how living with your grandparents for a few years is something to 'overcome' but it's striking that they shipped them off so young, West African parenting patterns even when it involves a transatlantic flight and disrupts the children's integration into the American education system.


    In the aftermath, it was determined Peter Odighizuwa, at the time 43 years old, had a history of mental instability. Dr. Jack Briggs, the country coroner, called him “a time-bomb waiting to go off’’ and stated it was “just a matter of him releasing his anger on the world, I guess.’’
     
    I don't know, the two of them had a psycho father who abused them and have muscle tone that is extreme even by NFL standards, are they ticking time bombs too? I also like how they had 4 children despite neither having anything like the kind of income to do so and mom ships two of them off to her inlaws (Who apparently abused the two children) even while dad is still around. Were they that unruly? Doesn't even go to see them more than 2 twice in 5 years. Low parental investment indeed.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Elli, @Paperback Writer

    Altai, interesting that the mother, who usually gains custody, would ship her young sons off to Nigeria to escape “the indignities of a failing marriage.” I was divorced and I know others who were too. None shipped their kids off. Most failing marriages include drama about visitation not exile. Strange story. Thank you.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Buffalo Joe

    Well, that is how the NY Post story puts it, the whole thing is a PR piece to address his father and make him, his brothers and mother look as good as possible. So it's not that she was shipping them off to reduce her burden, it's to 'save' them. Even though paragraphs later Owa says his paternal grandparents abused them and his time there was pretty miserable and reveals mom couldn't spring for plane tickets to even bring them home for Christmas for 5 years, only visiting them twice.

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buffalo Joe

    And then there's Ann Dunham...

  16. Next up “Psychosis of White women named Karen.” There, that will make everything better.

  17. @peterike
    It's basically impossible to make a trip on the New York City subways anymore without running across one or two blacks who are obviously mentally deranged. Sorry for my racist comment.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Achilleus, @GamecockJerry

    Try walking around Chicago.

  18. @Altai
    Recently the Dallas Cowboys drafted Osa Odighizuwa from UCLA. His older brother Owa Odighizuwa was drafed in 2015 with the New York Giants. It brought up again the fact that their father, Peter Odighizuwa, an immigrant from Nigeria, killed 3 white people and injured 3 others in a mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law. An incident that would be widely known and covered if they were white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

    There was a puff piece (As much for his mother as for him) and implicit lay out to the rest of the media how the media should cover this (If they can't avoid it) when Owa was drafted and contained much iSteve content.

    https://nypost.com/2015/05/09/a-murderous-father-a-battered-loving-mother-rooks-long-road-to-giants/

    Abieyuwa Odighizuwa’s first instinct was to protect her four young sons, but how was this possible? The oldest, 9-year-old Owa, feared he had rage inside him, like his father, feared he, too, was capable of inflicting harm and causing chaos.

    “He was so scared,’’ said the mother, called AB by everyone, dating back to when she was a child in Nigeria. “He was so scared. He told me, ‘Mom, I don’t want to be like my dad.’ And I told him, as long as I’m alive that’s not gonna happen.’
     
    Just to be clear, he didn't ever get near his own family with the gun if he had any intent to and was taken alive at the university.


    There was so much for Owa to overcome. He and his second brother, Ighodaro — called Iggy by everyone — were shipped off to Nigeria when Owa was 3 and Iggy was 2, sent away by their broken-hearted mother, a five-year separation that allowed the boys to escape the indignities of the failing marriage of AB and Peter Odighizuwa.

    ...

    Owa, at a painfully young age, grew accustomed to hardship and separation. Child-care issues and marital instability forced AB, living at the time in Ohio and working in a hospital as a Certified Nurse Assistant, to make the gut-wrenching decision to send toddlers Owa and Iggy to live in her native Nigeria, with their grandmother, Peter’s mother.

    “I needed somebody that would be able to take care of the kids properly when I was at work, which was something their dad wasn’t willing to do most of the time,’’ AB said. “It was very difficult. I couldn’t go to a park and watch my kids play. That was one of the most devastating things.

    “It helped shape him a lot. In so many ways I can’t even describe. Nothing wrong with being with family, but there’s a difference between being with your parents and being with family members. He had to grow up. It has helped shape everything that he does.’’

    During the five years, AB only twice made it to Nigeria to see her boys.

    “It was not a very positive experience for me,’’ Owa said of his life in Nigeria. “A lot of physical abuse. Particularly on me. It’s weird. I wasn’t a bad kid.’’

     

    I don't know how living with your grandparents for a few years is something to 'overcome' but it's striking that they shipped them off so young, West African parenting patterns even when it involves a transatlantic flight and disrupts the children's integration into the American education system.


    In the aftermath, it was determined Peter Odighizuwa, at the time 43 years old, had a history of mental instability. Dr. Jack Briggs, the country coroner, called him “a time-bomb waiting to go off’’ and stated it was “just a matter of him releasing his anger on the world, I guess.’’
     
    I don't know, the two of them had a psycho father who abused them and have muscle tone that is extreme even by NFL standards, are they ticking time bombs too? I also like how they had 4 children despite neither having anything like the kind of income to do so and mom ships two of them off to her inlaws (Who apparently abused the two children) even while dad is still around. Were they that unruly? Doesn't even go to see them more than 2 twice in 5 years. Low parental investment indeed.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Elli, @Paperback Writer

    A Nigerian woman I knew, professional class, said many of her Nigerian friends planned to send their children back to Nigeria, to boarding school or relatives, by the age of 12 or so, to avoid American black influence in adolescence, and have them back in the US for college.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Elli

    They were living in Grundy, Virginia at the time, about 80% white at the time, 18% black. She says she did this afterwards when she went to NYC to live with her brother and was scared of NYC 'swallowing' her children. So she left for the whitetopia (Particularly 20 years ago) of Portland.


    “I was concerned about New York swallowing up my kids and taking control, raising my kids for me, and I didn’t want that to happen,’’ AB said.
     
    , @AndrewR
    @Elli

    I'd much rather send my kid to a mostly white private school then send them to Nigeria. Then again I'm not Nigerian

  19. @Jonathan Mason
    @Bill P

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that's where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community--mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can't just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support--for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Reg Cæsar, @TWS, @Art Deco, @Anon, @J.Ross

    Chicago Police say there’s a lot of heroin in homeless encampments. I’ve noticed more homeless encampments in Chicago over the past few years. Some of the encampments actually block the sidewalk underpasses of North Lake Shore Drive that lead right up to the beaches. What a mess.

  20. @Buffalo Joe
    @Altai

    Altai, interesting that the mother, who usually gains custody, would ship her young sons off to Nigeria to escape "the indignities of a failing marriage." I was divorced and I know others who were too. None shipped their kids off. Most failing marriages include drama about visitation not exile. Strange story. Thank you.

    Replies: @Altai, @Gary in Gramercy

    Well, that is how the NY Post story puts it, the whole thing is a PR piece to address his father and make him, his brothers and mother look as good as possible. So it’s not that she was shipping them off to reduce her burden, it’s to ‘save’ them. Even though paragraphs later Owa says his paternal grandparents abused them and his time there was pretty miserable and reveals mom couldn’t spring for plane tickets to even bring them home for Christmas for 5 years, only visiting them twice.

  21. Elli says:
    @Bill P
    Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia while whites get more bipolar diagnoses. The studies I've read, however, are not all that consistent in their findings.

    What does seem fairly clear is that schizophrenia is about twice as common in urban as in rural populations. Suburbs are in between. Cochran thinks this is because it's pathogenic in origin. I'm not so convinced by the crazy bug theory, but it's food for thought.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jonathan Mason, @Elli, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

    Black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean have much higher rates of schizophrenia in the US and the UK than they do in their native lands, also higher rates of autism, which rises the further north they go.

    Autism, schizophrenia, bipolar, major depression and ADHD share common genes but expression varies. Maybe stress is a trigger, maybe it is a vitamin D deficiency.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @Elli

    Yep, it's the vitamin D thing. The opposite occurs with white people, white people tend to get crazier as you go further South (compare North Italy to Sicily, or Minnesota to Florida WRT the white population).

  22. @Jonathan Mason
    @Bill P

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that's where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community--mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can't just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support--for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Reg Cæsar, @TWS, @Art Deco, @Anon, @J.Ross

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community–mainly because this is cheaper.

    Plus they are far more homogeneous than we, and actually have communities in which to treat them.

    Still, that didn’t stop Martin Bryant, Thomas Hamilton, or Anders Breivik.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Runnin' Reg was actually the inspiration for Marathon Man. He's been observed White Flighting many times.

    Not his fault he got defeated by those chasing down White people.

    https://www.mauvais-genres.com/21924-thickbox_default/marathon-man-movie-still-n02-8x10-in-1976-john-schlesinger-dustin-hoffman.jpg

  23. Does the NYT publish anything that isn’t all about blaming Bad Old White People from the Past for whatever anymore?

    Psychiatry continued to pathologize — and sometimes demonize — African-Americans, with the result that, by the 1970s, the diagnosis of psychosis was handed out so often that the profession was essentially “turning schizophrenia into a Black man’s disorder of aggression and agitation,” said Dr. Hairston, a contributor to the 2019 book, “Racism and Psychiatry.”

    You can see where this is heading. Just like the rules which now say that you can’t discipline any black students until and unless you’ve punished an equal or greater number of white students, henceforth you won’t be able to diagnose (not to mention sequester) black psychos until you’ve found enough white people to tar and feather.

    And just as with school discipline, it’s going to mean wildly different standards for whites and blacks. That’s Equity!

    BTW. Given how thoroughly Jewish the practice of psychiatry has always been, will there be any kind of reckoning there? Just kidding.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Polistra

    Does the NYT publish anything that isn’t all about blaming Bad Old White People from the Past for whatever anymore?

    These pieces have become the 'General Hospital' of journalism, the longest running show in newspapers. The Association of Ball Bearing manufacturers comes to terms with their racist past, The Worshipful Fraternity of Tailors CTTWIRP, The Council on Foreign Relations CTTWIRP. It never gets old. (Just kidding about the CFR of course, they've collectively and individually never put a foot wrong. Walking between the raindrops is one of their core competencies.)

  24. @peterike
    It's basically impossible to make a trip on the New York City subways anymore without running across one or two blacks who are obviously mentally deranged. Sorry for my racist comment.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Achilleus, @GamecockJerry

    It’s basically impossible to make a trip on the New York City subways anymore without running across one or two blacks who are obviously mentally deranged.

    Same on the LA Metro. Or just walking downtown.

  25. @Bill P
    Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia while whites get more bipolar diagnoses. The studies I've read, however, are not all that consistent in their findings.

    What does seem fairly clear is that schizophrenia is about twice as common in urban as in rural populations. Suburbs are in between. Cochran thinks this is because it's pathogenic in origin. I'm not so convinced by the crazy bug theory, but it's food for thought.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jonathan Mason, @Elli, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

    Psychology is still mostly fake but schizophrenia diagnosis is one of its solid hard science achievements: it’s a chemical blood test.
    https://www.newsweek.com/blood-tests-detect-schizophrenia-mental-illness-493955

  26. “Cooperation often begins with Haldol”

    Sounds like a line of dialog from an early David Cronenberg film.

  27. If you stab old women in the street you should be hung by the neck until dead. No psychological evaluation is necessary, neither is long term care. If you harm random strangers on the street, you cannot be permitted to live – black, white. brown, or yellow.

    Hanging needs to make a comeback, and should be prescribed for a broad range of violent crimes.

    • Agree: TTSSYF, gandydancer
    • Replies: @lysias
    @Achilleus

    That's "hanged by the neck," not "hung".

    Replies: @Achilleus

  28. @slumber_j
    OT iSteve bait from the formidable Nicholas Wade... YetAnotherAnon indicated Wade's piece on the origins of Covid 19 in another comment thread, and it would be a shame for it to get lost in the shuffle. The article is a great read and extremely persuasive: https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    Replies: @Clyde

    Nicholas Wade pretty much blows open what these evil scum were up to in their virology labs. The way they did their holy grail called gain of function research in lab conditions that were far from secure. Chaotic as a Chinese fire drill.

    A second reason for the severe danger of novel coronaviruses has to do with the required levels of lab safety. There are four degrees of safety, designated BSL1 to BSL4, with BSL4 being the most restrictive and designed for deadly pathogens like the Ebola virus.

    The Wuhan Institute of Virology had a new BSL4 lab, but its state of readiness considerably alarmed the State Department inspectors who visited it from the Beijing embassy in 2018. “The new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” the inspectors wrote in a cable of January 19, 2018.

    The real problem, however, was not the unsafe state of the Wuhan BSL4 lab but the fact that virologists worldwide don’t like working in BSL4 conditions. You have to wear a space suit, do operations in closed cabinets, and accept that everything will take twice as long. So the rules assigning each kind of virus to a given safety level were laxer than some might think was prudent.

    Before 2020, the rules followed by virologists in China and elsewhere required that experiments with the SARS1 and MERS viruses be conducted in BSL3 conditions. But all other bat coronaviruses could be studied in BSL2, the next level down. BSL2 requires taking fairly minimal safety precautions, such as wearing lab coats and gloves, not sucking up liquids in a pipette, and putting up biohazard warning signs. Yet a gain-of-function experiment conducted in BSL2 might produce an agent more infectious than either SARS1 or MERS. And if it did, then lab workers would stand a high chance of infection, especially if unvaccinated.

    Much of Shi’s work on gain-of-function in coronaviruses was performed at the BSL2 safety level, as is stated in her publications and other documents. She has said in an interview with Science magazine that “[t]he coronavirus research in our laboratory is conducted in BSL-2 or BSL-3 laboratories.”

    “It is clear that some or all of this work was being performed using a biosafety standard — biosafety level 2, the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office — that would pose an unacceptably high risk of infection of laboratory staff upon contact with a virus having the transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2,” Ebright says.

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Thanks: Alden, Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Clyde

    And the Wuhan lab was funded by Fauci because gain of function research had been banned in the US as being too risky.

    An excellent article by Wade.

    , @slumber_j
    @Clyde

    Yeah. As I wrote to a friend today: Spoiler alert: my money’s on Bill Gates’ ending up with “Bat Lady”

  29. “Another possible reason that blacks get diagnosed with schizophrenia so much is to help them get Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity verdicts for their high average level of violent crimes.”

    Not quite, Mr. Sailer. I get it. You are unlikely to incur scrutiny from your fanbois and fangurlz when making these bold assertions. I thought you were all about data.

    As you know, it is a rarity with which the insanity defense is used, as it occurs in approximately one percent of all felony cases.

    https://racism.org/articles/law-and-justice/criminal-justice-and-racism/136-criminal-justice-generally/3165-racism-in-the-insanity-defense

    Studies of the insanity defense detail those who plead Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity (“NGRI”) as “primarily single, Caucasian, somewhat older and better educated than the usual defendant group, unemployed at the time of the insane offense, and with a history characterized by chronic unemployment, prior psychiatric treatment, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and previous arrests.” Studies describe successful acquittees as “older and better educated . . . more likely to have been diagnosed as schizophrenic and less likely to have had a history of drug abuse.” These studies find no difference, however, with respect to other variables such as ethnicity. It is difficult to reconcile the finding that the plea of NGRI is entered primarily by Caucasians with the conclusion that there is no racial disparity in groups of successful insanity acquittees.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Wade Hampton
    @Corvinus

    No doubt a website named "racism.org" curated by a black racist is a solid source of hard data.

    Mr. Sailer was trying to find a silver lining to the psychiatric profession's diagnosing "people of color" as psychotic at a rate 3-4 times whites.

    I guess all the diagnoses of "people of color" as psychotic is simply due to the fact that they are psychotic (and not an attempt to help a brother out as Mr. Sailer speculates).

    And while we are at it, the "racism.org" website highlights another front in World War Hair. Oh, the humanity!

    https://racism.org/articles/basic-needs/education/44-education-k-12/9451-what-s


    Students come to school to learn. Discriminatory hair policies make it difficult for Black students to authentically express themselves and simultaneously receive the same access to quality education as their white classmates. These hair policies create another barrier for Black students, particularly girls, largely because the policies have a disparate, negative effect on Black students. Furthermore, these hair policies spring from institutionalized racism and should not be allowed to persist.
     

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @gandydancer
    @Corvinus


    As you know, it is a rarity with which the insanity defense is used, as it occurs in approximately one percent of all felony cases.
     
    As you presumably know, it is a rarity for criminal cases to go to trial, and when they do the conviction rate is quite high. The value of a schizophrenia diagnosis will therefor usually lie in its value as a bargaining chip in negotiating the plea deal.

    I take it that Sailor was being sardonic, but he is absolutely right that greater black criminality presumably creates a greater demand for black "insanity" diagnoses relative to the demand for white "insanity" diagnoses, even if the effect is not absolutely large.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  30. Judith Warner:

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Mike Tre

    Injun squaw?

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @Morton's toes
    @Mike Tre

    Sir you are in the ballpark. This thread needs visual aid.

    https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2011/05/1.png

    Replies: @anon, @the one they call Desanex

    , @anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    https://hedgewik.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/5-stages-of-noticing-1.png

    Replies: @fish

    , @Sir Launcelot Canning
    @Mike Tre

    A face only a rabbi could love.

    , @Gaspar DeLaFunk
    @Mike Tre

    Trans?

  31. @Sergeant Prepper
    Defund psychiatry. Nuttier than the fruitcakes they treat.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Psychiatry is a waste of an M.D. They’re basically psychologists/therapists with the authority to prescribe medications. And for this you need 10 years of post-graduate training?

  32. @Bill P
    Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia while whites get more bipolar diagnoses. The studies I've read, however, are not all that consistent in their findings.

    What does seem fairly clear is that schizophrenia is about twice as common in urban as in rural populations. Suburbs are in between. Cochran thinks this is because it's pathogenic in origin. I'm not so convinced by the crazy bug theory, but it's food for thought.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jonathan Mason, @Elli, @J.Ross, @Jim Don Bob

    Psychosis is actually fairly evenly distributed across racial groups, but blacks seem to be more likely to get diagnosed with schizophrenia…

    Maybe it’s weed.

  33. “but often by guys like Mr. Thompson with long track records of violence, who should be locked up, whether in prison or an asylum.”

    Or repatriated to the ample bosom of mother Africa. Less expensive and more humane.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Mike Tre

    No, in a sane country he would have been executed long ago, with little fuss or bother. George Floyd is another one; he should have been executed rather than imprisoned for his involvement in a home invasion. We waste precious resources on these unsalvageable people. We seem to think we have the luxury of throwing money away endlessly. Time to get real.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  34. @Corvinus
    “Another possible reason that blacks get diagnosed with schizophrenia so much is to help them get Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity verdicts for their high average level of violent crimes.”

    Not quite, Mr. Sailer. I get it. You are unlikely to incur scrutiny from your fanbois and fangurlz when making these bold assertions. I thought you were all about data.

    As you know, it is a rarity with which the insanity defense is used, as it occurs in approximately one percent of all felony cases.

    https://racism.org/articles/law-and-justice/criminal-justice-and-racism/136-criminal-justice-generally/3165-racism-in-the-insanity-defense

    Studies of the insanity defense detail those who plead Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity (“NGRI”) as “primarily single, Caucasian, somewhat older and better educated than the usual defendant group, unemployed at the time of the insane offense, and with a history characterized by chronic unemployment, prior psychiatric treatment, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and previous arrests.” Studies describe successful acquittees as “older and better educated . . . more likely to have been diagnosed as schizophrenic and less likely to have had a history of drug abuse.” These studies find no difference, however, with respect to other variables such as ethnicity. It is difficult to reconcile the finding that the plea of NGRI is entered primarily by Caucasians with the conclusion that there is no racial disparity in groups of successful insanity acquittees.

    Replies: @Wade Hampton, @gandydancer

    No doubt a website named “racism.org” curated by a black racist is a solid source of hard data.

    Mr. Sailer was trying to find a silver lining to the psychiatric profession’s diagnosing “people of color” as psychotic at a rate 3-4 times whites.

    I guess all the diagnoses of “people of color” as psychotic is simply due to the fact that they are psychotic (and not an attempt to help a brother out as Mr. Sailer speculates).

    And while we are at it, the “racism.org” website highlights another front in World War Hair. Oh, the humanity!

    https://racism.org/articles/basic-needs/education/44-education-k-12/9451-what-s

    Students come to school to learn. Discriminatory hair policies make it difficult for Black students to authentically express themselves and simultaneously receive the same access to quality education as their white classmates. These hair policies create another barrier for Black students, particularly girls, largely because the policies have a disparate, negative effect on Black students. Furthermore, these hair policies spring from institutionalized racism and should not be allowed to persist.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Wade Hampton

    "No doubt a website named “racism.org” curated by a black racist is a solid source of hard data."

    The source cited the University of Miami Law Review.

    "Mr. Sailer was trying to find a silver lining to the psychiatric profession’s diagnosing “people of color” as psychotic at a rate 3-4 times whites."

    It's cute how you are characterizing something so patently disingenuous.

    "And while we are at it, the “racism.org” website highlights another front in World War Hair."

    World War Hair is a figment of iSteve's wild imagination.

  35. @Clyde
    @slumber_j

    Nicholas Wade pretty much blows open what these evil scum were up to in their virology labs. The way they did their holy grail called gain of function research in lab conditions that were far from secure. Chaotic as a Chinese fire drill.


    A second reason for the severe danger of novel coronaviruses has to do with the required levels of lab safety. There are four degrees of safety, designated BSL1 to BSL4, with BSL4 being the most restrictive and designed for deadly pathogens like the Ebola virus.

    The Wuhan Institute of Virology had a new BSL4 lab, but its state of readiness considerably alarmed the State Department inspectors who visited it from the Beijing embassy in 2018. “The new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” the inspectors wrote in a cable of January 19, 2018.

    The real problem, however, was not the unsafe state of the Wuhan BSL4 lab but the fact that virologists worldwide don’t like working in BSL4 conditions. You have to wear a space suit, do operations in closed cabinets, and accept that everything will take twice as long. So the rules assigning each kind of virus to a given safety level were laxer than some might think was prudent.

    Before 2020, the rules followed by virologists in China and elsewhere required that experiments with the SARS1 and MERS viruses be conducted in BSL3 conditions. But all other bat coronaviruses could be studied in BSL2, the next level down. BSL2 requires taking fairly minimal safety precautions, such as wearing lab coats and gloves, not sucking up liquids in a pipette, and putting up biohazard warning signs. Yet a gain-of-function experiment conducted in BSL2 might produce an agent more infectious than either SARS1 or MERS. And if it did, then lab workers would stand a high chance of infection, especially if unvaccinated.

    Much of Shi’s work on gain-of-function in coronaviruses was performed at the BSL2 safety level, as is stated in her publications and other documents. She has said in an interview with Science magazine that “[t]he coronavirus research in our laboratory is conducted in BSL-2 or BSL-3 laboratories.”

    “It is clear that some or all of this work was being performed using a biosafety standard — biosafety level 2, the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office — that would pose an unacceptably high risk of infection of laboratory staff upon contact with a virus having the transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2,” Ebright says.
     
    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @slumber_j

    And the Wuhan lab was funded by Fauci because gain of function research had been banned in the US as being too risky.

    An excellent article by Wade.

  36. Re: intersection of violent and crazy – albeit less violent version:

    https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhjPZGutI6moZInokN

    It’s a long (8 minutes+) video but worth watching:

    1. Gentrification meets black Karen.

    2. White liberal woman (in a move that I would have deemed inexplicable before reading so many “whiskey” comments here) shows her ass to the guy at minute 4:10

    3. The comments on worldstarhiphop are surprisingly mixed (about 1/3 in favor of the ranting black guy, about 1/3 opposed, and the remaining 1/3 commenting about the white girl’s ass cheeks.)

    https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video-c.php?v=wshhjPZGutI6moZInokN#comments-arena

  37. That pic looks like the guy who spat on me at the Embarcadero BART station on a Sunday morning around ‘08. When the cops cuffed him, he said, “why you always pickin’ on the black man?”

  38. @Polistra
    Does the NYT publish anything that isn't all about blaming Bad Old White People from the Past for whatever anymore?

    Psychiatry continued to pathologize — and sometimes demonize — African-Americans, with the result that, by the 1970s, the diagnosis of psychosis was handed out so often that the profession was essentially “turning schizophrenia into a Black man’s disorder of aggression and agitation,” said Dr. Hairston, a contributor to the 2019 book, “Racism and Psychiatry."
     
    You can see where this is heading. Just like the rules which now say that you can't discipline any black students until and unless you've punished an equal or greater number of white students, henceforth you won't be able to diagnose (not to mention sequester) black psychos until you've found enough white people to tar and feather.

    And just as with school discipline, it's going to mean wildly different standards for whites and blacks. That's Equity!

    BTW. Given how thoroughly Jewish the practice of psychiatry has always been, will there be any kind of reckoning there? Just kidding.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Does the NYT publish anything that isn’t all about blaming Bad Old White People from the Past for whatever anymore?

    These pieces have become the ‘General Hospital’ of journalism, the longest running show in newspapers. The Association of Ball Bearing manufacturers comes to terms with their racist past, The Worshipful Fraternity of Tailors CTTWIRP, The Council on Foreign Relations CTTWIRP. It never gets old. (Just kidding about the CFR of course, they’ve collectively and individually never put a foot wrong. Walking between the raindrops is one of their core competencies.)

  39. @Mike Tre
    Judith Warner:

    https://www.azquotes.com/public/pictures/authors/79/a9/79a90cf1a2aa1c1cc43f186dcc395466/5434eead1433d_judith_warner.jpg

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Morton's toes, @anonymous, @Sir Launcelot Canning, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Injun squaw?

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @James J O'Meara

    One presumes you're kidding. She looks as Jewish as Sheldon Adelson.

  40. @Wade Hampton
    @Corvinus

    No doubt a website named "racism.org" curated by a black racist is a solid source of hard data.

    Mr. Sailer was trying to find a silver lining to the psychiatric profession's diagnosing "people of color" as psychotic at a rate 3-4 times whites.

    I guess all the diagnoses of "people of color" as psychotic is simply due to the fact that they are psychotic (and not an attempt to help a brother out as Mr. Sailer speculates).

    And while we are at it, the "racism.org" website highlights another front in World War Hair. Oh, the humanity!

    https://racism.org/articles/basic-needs/education/44-education-k-12/9451-what-s


    Students come to school to learn. Discriminatory hair policies make it difficult for Black students to authentically express themselves and simultaneously receive the same access to quality education as their white classmates. These hair policies create another barrier for Black students, particularly girls, largely because the policies have a disparate, negative effect on Black students. Furthermore, these hair policies spring from institutionalized racism and should not be allowed to persist.
     

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “No doubt a website named “racism.org” curated by a black racist is a solid source of hard data.”

    The source cited the University of Miami Law Review.

    “Mr. Sailer was trying to find a silver lining to the psychiatric profession’s diagnosing “people of color” as psychotic at a rate 3-4 times whites.”

    It’s cute how you are characterizing something so patently disingenuous.

    “And while we are at it, the “racism.org” website highlights another front in World War Hair.”

    World War Hair is a figment of iSteve’s wild imagination.

    • LOL: Wade Hampton
  41. @Jonathan Mason
    @Bill P

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that's where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community--mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can't just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support--for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Reg Cæsar, @TWS, @Art Deco, @Anon, @J.Ross

    Oh for God’s sake would please stop talking about things you have neither the experience, nor education to understand? Tiny Duck is at least funny. You on the other hand are ignorant as dirt and less useful.

    • Agree: Alden, Harry Baldwin, Charon
  42. Psychiatry Confronts Its Racist Past

    Focusing on the past is a game for losers.

    For decades, the Left has accommodated and encouraged black personality disorder.

    https://counsellingresource.com/therapy/self-help/understanding/3/#:~:text=Blaming%20others%20is%20a%20classic%20personality%20disorder%20feature,for%20their%20behavior%20%E2%80%94%20even%20their%20criminal%20behavior.

    ‘Blaming others is a classic personality disorder feature and after believing this for many years, people with a Personality Disorder may not truly feel they are responsible for their behavior — even their criminal behavior. They have rethought, reworked, and excused their behaviors to the point that they fail to see that they are the common denominator in all their difficulties.’

    This psychosis is the root of black problems today.

  43. @Elli
    @Altai

    A Nigerian woman I knew, professional class, said many of her Nigerian friends planned to send their children back to Nigeria, to boarding school or relatives, by the age of 12 or so, to avoid American black influence in adolescence, and have them back in the US for college.

    Replies: @Altai, @AndrewR

    They were living in Grundy, Virginia at the time, about 80% white at the time, 18% black. She says she did this afterwards when she went to NYC to live with her brother and was scared of NYC ‘swallowing’ her children. So she left for the whitetopia (Particularly 20 years ago) of Portland.

    “I was concerned about New York swallowing up my kids and taking control, raising my kids for me, and I didn’t want that to happen,’’ AB said.

  44. Good article by Nicholas Wade:

    The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

  45. There are two types of criminal defendants:

    1. Those who will never break the law again.

    2. Those who will break the law every day they live.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @R.G. Camara

    Agreed, but how many of Type 1 are there really?

    I think Type 1 applies mostly to the executed.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    , @J.Ross
    @R.G. Camara

    Sancho Panza: therefore, let them all go, but surveilled -- and upon the first jaywalk, shoot.

    , @TWS
    @R.G. Camara

    White boy who gets jammed up for blocking his wife/girlfriend from beating him about the head and neck will usually stay away from the crazy. Assuming he's not a dirtbag. He'll still have to take the classes and do the community service but he'll probably be careful after that.

    Dirtbags and addicts will always return to their vomit and mire.

  46. @Altai
    Recently the Dallas Cowboys drafted Osa Odighizuwa from UCLA. His older brother Owa Odighizuwa was drafed in 2015 with the New York Giants. It brought up again the fact that their father, Peter Odighizuwa, an immigrant from Nigeria, killed 3 white people and injured 3 others in a mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law. An incident that would be widely known and covered if they were white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

    There was a puff piece (As much for his mother as for him) and implicit lay out to the rest of the media how the media should cover this (If they can't avoid it) when Owa was drafted and contained much iSteve content.

    https://nypost.com/2015/05/09/a-murderous-father-a-battered-loving-mother-rooks-long-road-to-giants/

    Abieyuwa Odighizuwa’s first instinct was to protect her four young sons, but how was this possible? The oldest, 9-year-old Owa, feared he had rage inside him, like his father, feared he, too, was capable of inflicting harm and causing chaos.

    “He was so scared,’’ said the mother, called AB by everyone, dating back to when she was a child in Nigeria. “He was so scared. He told me, ‘Mom, I don’t want to be like my dad.’ And I told him, as long as I’m alive that’s not gonna happen.’
     
    Just to be clear, he didn't ever get near his own family with the gun if he had any intent to and was taken alive at the university.


    There was so much for Owa to overcome. He and his second brother, Ighodaro — called Iggy by everyone — were shipped off to Nigeria when Owa was 3 and Iggy was 2, sent away by their broken-hearted mother, a five-year separation that allowed the boys to escape the indignities of the failing marriage of AB and Peter Odighizuwa.

    ...

    Owa, at a painfully young age, grew accustomed to hardship and separation. Child-care issues and marital instability forced AB, living at the time in Ohio and working in a hospital as a Certified Nurse Assistant, to make the gut-wrenching decision to send toddlers Owa and Iggy to live in her native Nigeria, with their grandmother, Peter’s mother.

    “I needed somebody that would be able to take care of the kids properly when I was at work, which was something their dad wasn’t willing to do most of the time,’’ AB said. “It was very difficult. I couldn’t go to a park and watch my kids play. That was one of the most devastating things.

    “It helped shape him a lot. In so many ways I can’t even describe. Nothing wrong with being with family, but there’s a difference between being with your parents and being with family members. He had to grow up. It has helped shape everything that he does.’’

    During the five years, AB only twice made it to Nigeria to see her boys.

    “It was not a very positive experience for me,’’ Owa said of his life in Nigeria. “A lot of physical abuse. Particularly on me. It’s weird. I wasn’t a bad kid.’’

     

    I don't know how living with your grandparents for a few years is something to 'overcome' but it's striking that they shipped them off so young, West African parenting patterns even when it involves a transatlantic flight and disrupts the children's integration into the American education system.


    In the aftermath, it was determined Peter Odighizuwa, at the time 43 years old, had a history of mental instability. Dr. Jack Briggs, the country coroner, called him “a time-bomb waiting to go off’’ and stated it was “just a matter of him releasing his anger on the world, I guess.’’
     
    I don't know, the two of them had a psycho father who abused them and have muscle tone that is extreme even by NFL standards, are they ticking time bombs too? I also like how they had 4 children despite neither having anything like the kind of income to do so and mom ships two of them off to her inlaws (Who apparently abused the two children) even while dad is still around. Were they that unruly? Doesn't even go to see them more than 2 twice in 5 years. Low parental investment indeed.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Elli, @Paperback Writer

    I remember that incident, because of the two armed guys who disarmed him with their own weapons and their own guts. Thank God for them and their guns – this could have been way worse.

  47. • Replies: @anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://img.memecdn.com/Do-I-Get-Bonus-Points-If-I-Act-Like-I-Care_o_101079.jpg

    , @Anon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Steve looks better than Matthew Perry.

    Go Steve!

  48. Allen says:

    Off topic, but Van Morrison is sparking outrage with a new song (released today) called “They Control the Media”. It’s interesting to say the least coming from a big name like him.

    Lyrics:

    They tell us that ignorance is bliss
    I guess for those that control the media it is
    They own the media
    They control the stories we are told
    If you ever try to go against them
    You will be ignored

    Cause they control, they control
    They control the narrative
    They perpetuate the myth
    Keep on telling you lies
    Tell you ignorance is bliss
    Believe it all and you’ll
    Never get wise to the truth
    Cause they control everything you do
    Everything you do
    Everything you do
    Everything you do

    They control the narrative
    They perpetuate the myth
    Keep on selling you lies
    Tell you ignorance is bliss
    Believe it all and you
    Never get the truth
    Never get wise, wise to their lies
    To their lies
    They control the media
    They control the media
    They control the media
    They control the media

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Allen

    Between this and his "No More Lockdowns" the dude is getting BASED.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUeuhM-NSjU

  49. @James J O'Meara
    @Mike Tre

    Injun squaw?

    Replies: @Polistra

    One presumes you’re kidding. She looks as Jewish as Sheldon Adelson.

  50. @R.G. Camara
    There are two types of criminal defendants:

    1. Those who will never break the law again.

    2. Those who will break the law every day they live.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @TWS

    Agreed, but how many of Type 1 are there really?

    I think Type 1 applies mostly to the executed.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Polistra

    Type 1's are folks who are law-abiding but have one bad day:

    -they have one too many drinks and hit an alcohol checkpoint;

    -they have a bad day and get into a fight at a bar or at a party;

    -the IRS or FBI guy needs one more to make his quota, so grabs the guy who's tax records are just slightly off and calls it fraud instead of mistake;

    -they run a red light and their legal and licensed handgun isn't locked up properly in the trunk or gun rack.

    -they speed just enough to piss off the cop who writes they were going 85 in a 35

    etc.

    Basically, normal, good people who will only brush with the law this once and then be so terrified they'll never do it again. Low-level OUI is the biggie. As the Broken Windows policy showed, 90% of people are actually very law-abiding and non-criminal (even blacks), it really is a small percentage of people who do most of the crimes, and they do multiple crimes.

  51. @R.G. Camara
    There are two types of criminal defendants:

    1. Those who will never break the law again.

    2. Those who will break the law every day they live.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @TWS

    Sancho Panza: therefore, let them all go, but surveilled — and upon the first jaywalk, shoot.

  52. @Mike Tre
    Judith Warner:

    https://www.azquotes.com/public/pictures/authors/79/a9/79a90cf1a2aa1c1cc43f186dcc395466/5434eead1433d_judith_warner.jpg

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Morton's toes, @anonymous, @Sir Launcelot Canning, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Sir you are in the ballpark. This thread needs visual aid.

    • Thanks: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @anon
    @Morton's toes

    Must be a pretty old advert, since they obviously used the late James Brown as a model.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon

    , @the one they call Desanex
    @Morton's toes

    Very weird illustration. Who’s to say it’s a black man? It could be Jimmy Hall of Wet Willie fame.
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3OahniOGJts/sddefault.jpg

  53. Blacks ain’t crazy; blacks just gotta black, that’s all.

  54. @Mike Tre
    "but often by guys like Mr. Thompson with long track records of violence, who should be locked up, whether in prison or an asylum."

    Or repatriated to the ample bosom of mother Africa. Less expensive and more humane.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    No, in a sane country he would have been executed long ago, with little fuss or bother. George Floyd is another one; he should have been executed rather than imprisoned for his involvement in a home invasion. We waste precious resources on these unsalvageable people. We seem to think we have the luxury of throwing money away endlessly. Time to get real.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Harry Baldwin

    True enough. Let's repatriate them before they have an opportunity to victimize somebody.

  55. anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    Judith Warner:

    https://www.azquotes.com/public/pictures/authors/79/a9/79a90cf1a2aa1c1cc43f186dcc395466/5434eead1433d_judith_warner.jpg

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Morton's toes, @anonymous, @Sir Launcelot Canning, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    • Thanks: Polistra, Mike Tre
    • Replies: @fish
    @anonymous


    Progression-The Corvinus Chronicles
     

    Replies: @Charon

  56. @Polistra
    @R.G. Camara

    Agreed, but how many of Type 1 are there really?

    I think Type 1 applies mostly to the executed.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Type 1’s are folks who are law-abiding but have one bad day:

    -they have one too many drinks and hit an alcohol checkpoint;

    -they have a bad day and get into a fight at a bar or at a party;

    -the IRS or FBI guy needs one more to make his quota, so grabs the guy who’s tax records are just slightly off and calls it fraud instead of mistake;

    -they run a red light and their legal and licensed handgun isn’t locked up properly in the trunk or gun rack.

    -they speed just enough to piss off the cop who writes they were going 85 in a 35

    etc.

    Basically, normal, good people who will only brush with the law this once and then be so terrified they’ll never do it again. Low-level OUI is the biggie. As the Broken Windows policy showed, 90% of people are actually very law-abiding and non-criminal (even blacks), it really is a small percentage of people who do most of the crimes, and they do multiple crimes.

  57. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/laaleen/status/1390417139362897922

    Replies: @anon, @Anon

  58. @Harry Baldwin
    @Mike Tre

    No, in a sane country he would have been executed long ago, with little fuss or bother. George Floyd is another one; he should have been executed rather than imprisoned for his involvement in a home invasion. We waste precious resources on these unsalvageable people. We seem to think we have the luxury of throwing money away endlessly. Time to get real.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    True enough. Let’s repatriate them before they have an opportunity to victimize somebody.

  59. @Morton's toes
    @Mike Tre

    Sir you are in the ballpark. This thread needs visual aid.

    https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2011/05/1.png

    Replies: @anon, @the one they call Desanex

    Must be a pretty old advert, since they obviously used the late James Brown as a model.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anon

    Rev. Al Sharpton's haircut for decades was modeled on James Brown's, who was sort of a substitute father for him.

    , @Anon
    @anon


    Must be a pretty old advert, since they obviously used the late James Brown as a model.
     
    It's Maxine Waters. The telltale difference is that Brown always had a flyaway stray curl over his eye, while Waters' hair is always completely sprayed down. Their facial features are identical.
  60. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Another black brawl at the Miami airport. You’d think if you were in Miami on vacation, you’d be pretty happy and mellow, but it seems to supercharge chimpouts. More ghetto blacks must be flying than usual. I hope they all get Covid.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Anon

    1. Obviously, it's not just Miami, or Atlanta, or Baltimore Philly or Chicago. This is happening everywhere there's a critical mass of them.

    2. I always think about the kids watching the grownups. What 'standards' might they be internalizing? Not to worry, it's all the fault of white supremacists.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Anon

    What the hell are these people fighting about?

    Replies: @anon, @Gary in Gramercy

  61. @Mike Tre
    Judith Warner:

    https://www.azquotes.com/public/pictures/authors/79/a9/79a90cf1a2aa1c1cc43f186dcc395466/5434eead1433d_judith_warner.jpg

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Morton's toes, @anonymous, @Sir Launcelot Canning, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    A face only a rabbi could love.

  62. Anon[292] • Disclaimer says:

    Another possible reason that blacks get diagnosed with schizophrenia so much is to help them get Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity verdicts for their high average level of violent crimes.

    Haha! Maybe. But this is not such a successful defense. Psychology Today in an article last year that 1 percent of criminal defendants try it, and a quarter of those succeed.

    I’d think you’d need a real attorney and some money for defense expenses to make a go of it.

    Then you get institutionalized for a while even if you are successful.

  63. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/laaleen/status/1390417139362897922

    Replies: @anon, @Anon

    Steve looks better than Matthew Perry.

    Go Steve!

  64. I have heard of a condition called ‘walking schizophrenia.’ Basically, some people, when stressed beyond the ability to cope, exhibit psychotic behavior. When the stress is removed, the psychosis dissipates. It must be stressful for negroes to live among negroes. What is the psychosis rate for tokens?

  65. @anon
    @Morton's toes

    Must be a pretty old advert, since they obviously used the late James Brown as a model.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon

    Rev. Al Sharpton’s haircut for decades was modeled on James Brown’s, who was sort of a substitute father for him.

  66. @Clyde
    @slumber_j

    Nicholas Wade pretty much blows open what these evil scum were up to in their virology labs. The way they did their holy grail called gain of function research in lab conditions that were far from secure. Chaotic as a Chinese fire drill.


    A second reason for the severe danger of novel coronaviruses has to do with the required levels of lab safety. There are four degrees of safety, designated BSL1 to BSL4, with BSL4 being the most restrictive and designed for deadly pathogens like the Ebola virus.

    The Wuhan Institute of Virology had a new BSL4 lab, but its state of readiness considerably alarmed the State Department inspectors who visited it from the Beijing embassy in 2018. “The new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” the inspectors wrote in a cable of January 19, 2018.

    The real problem, however, was not the unsafe state of the Wuhan BSL4 lab but the fact that virologists worldwide don’t like working in BSL4 conditions. You have to wear a space suit, do operations in closed cabinets, and accept that everything will take twice as long. So the rules assigning each kind of virus to a given safety level were laxer than some might think was prudent.

    Before 2020, the rules followed by virologists in China and elsewhere required that experiments with the SARS1 and MERS viruses be conducted in BSL3 conditions. But all other bat coronaviruses could be studied in BSL2, the next level down. BSL2 requires taking fairly minimal safety precautions, such as wearing lab coats and gloves, not sucking up liquids in a pipette, and putting up biohazard warning signs. Yet a gain-of-function experiment conducted in BSL2 might produce an agent more infectious than either SARS1 or MERS. And if it did, then lab workers would stand a high chance of infection, especially if unvaccinated.

    Much of Shi’s work on gain-of-function in coronaviruses was performed at the BSL2 safety level, as is stated in her publications and other documents. She has said in an interview with Science magazine that “[t]he coronavirus research in our laboratory is conducted in BSL-2 or BSL-3 laboratories.”

    “It is clear that some or all of this work was being performed using a biosafety standard — biosafety level 2, the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office — that would pose an unacceptably high risk of infection of laboratory staff upon contact with a virus having the transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2,” Ebright says.
     
    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @slumber_j

    Yeah. As I wrote to a friend today: Spoiler alert: my money’s on Bill Gates’ ending up with “Bat Lady”

  67. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Reminds me of Richard Pryor talking about feeling sad that there are so many black people in penitentiaries, and then, after spending some quality time talking to some of the black psychopaths in an Arizona prison, he suddenly understands…

  68. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community–mainly because this is cheaper.
     
    Plus they are far more homogeneous than we, and actually have communities in which to treat them.

    Still, that didn't stop Martin Bryant, Thomas Hamilton, or Anders Breivik.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Runnin’ Reg was actually the inspiration for Marathon Man. He’s been observed White Flighting many times.

    Not his fault he got defeated by those chasing down White people.

  69. @Tiny Duck
    Uh, if you get on Black Twitter and Twitter of Color on general you will see that they AGREE that there is a racism problem.

    You will find that most People of Color agree with following: not just medical education but all of medicine and our institutions are based on a caste system built on white supremacy

    The only people who disagree? white males

    Interesting that most mental health professionals agree with the article and are committed to change

    That tells you something right there

    Replies: @fish

  70. @anonymous
    @Mike Tre

    https://hedgewik.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/5-stages-of-noticing-1.png

    Replies: @fish

    Progression-The Corvinus Chronicles

    • Replies: @Charon
    @fish

    Don't forget art deco, who insists that at just 2% of the population they couldn't possibly wield substantial influence.

  71. @Corvinus
    “Another possible reason that blacks get diagnosed with schizophrenia so much is to help them get Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity verdicts for their high average level of violent crimes.”

    Not quite, Mr. Sailer. I get it. You are unlikely to incur scrutiny from your fanbois and fangurlz when making these bold assertions. I thought you were all about data.

    As you know, it is a rarity with which the insanity defense is used, as it occurs in approximately one percent of all felony cases.

    https://racism.org/articles/law-and-justice/criminal-justice-and-racism/136-criminal-justice-generally/3165-racism-in-the-insanity-defense

    Studies of the insanity defense detail those who plead Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity (“NGRI”) as “primarily single, Caucasian, somewhat older and better educated than the usual defendant group, unemployed at the time of the insane offense, and with a history characterized by chronic unemployment, prior psychiatric treatment, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, and previous arrests.” Studies describe successful acquittees as “older and better educated . . . more likely to have been diagnosed as schizophrenic and less likely to have had a history of drug abuse.” These studies find no difference, however, with respect to other variables such as ethnicity. It is difficult to reconcile the finding that the plea of NGRI is entered primarily by Caucasians with the conclusion that there is no racial disparity in groups of successful insanity acquittees.

    Replies: @Wade Hampton, @gandydancer

    As you know, it is a rarity with which the insanity defense is used, as it occurs in approximately one percent of all felony cases.

    As you presumably know, it is a rarity for criminal cases to go to trial, and when they do the conviction rate is quite high. The value of a schizophrenia diagnosis will therefor usually lie in its value as a bargaining chip in negotiating the plea deal.

    I take it that Sailor was being sardonic, but he is absolutely right that greater black criminality presumably creates a greater demand for black “insanity” diagnoses relative to the demand for white “insanity” diagnoses, even if the effect is not absolutely large.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @gandydancer

    "As you presumably know, it is a rarity for criminal cases to go to trial, and when they do the conviction rate is quite high."

    Quite high, huh. Nationally? Certain states? Please be specific here. Also, take into account:

    https://brandongaille.com/20-insanity-plea-statistics/


    In a 1991 study across multiple states, it was found that success rates for insanity pleas were about 25%.

    In the State of Colorado, a 44% success rate was discovered for cases that involved an insanity defense.

    Those with psychotic, affective, or mental disorders were the most likely to be acquitted because of an insanity defense.

    Bench trials are more likely to produce a successful insanity defense than jury trials.

    People who suffer from personality disorders and people charged with sex crimes are the least likely to find success with an insanity plea.

    People who have received 5 or more psychiatric hospitalizations are more likely to receive not guilty by reason of insanity verdict.
     
    "The value of a schizophrenia diagnosis will therefor usually lie in its value as a bargaining chip in negotiating the plea deal."

    It's probably more complicated and nuanced than that.

    "but he is absolutely right that greater black criminality presumably creates a greater demand for black “insanity” diagnoses relative to the demand for white “insanity” diagnoses, even if the effect is not absolutely large".

    He is speculating. Of course, if he (or you) can offer data here in support...
  72. “I can talk about Steve Sailer on this podcast? It has nothing to do with race…”

    at 31:20

  73. @Anon
    OT: Another black brawl at the Miami airport. You'd think if you were in Miami on vacation, you'd be pretty happy and mellow, but it seems to supercharge chimpouts. More ghetto blacks must be flying than usual. I hope they all get Covid.

    https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1390331090842394625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1390331090842394625%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F05%2Fanother-massive-brawl-breaks-miami-international-airport-weaves-go-flying-woman-dragged-across-floor-video%2F

    Replies: @Charon, @Jim Don Bob

    1. Obviously, it’s not just Miami, or Atlanta, or Baltimore Philly or Chicago. This is happening everywhere there’s a critical mass of them.

    2. I always think about the kids watching the grownups. What ‘standards’ might they be internalizing? Not to worry, it’s all the fault of white supremacists.

    • Thanks: Bubba
  74. @fish
    @anonymous


    Progression-The Corvinus Chronicles
     

    Replies: @Charon

    Don’t forget art deco, who insists that at just 2% of the population they couldn’t possibly wield substantial influence.

  75. @Jonathan Mason
    @Bill P

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that's where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community--mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can't just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support--for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Reg Cæsar, @TWS, @Art Deco, @Anon, @J.Ross

    so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Clinical psychologists cannot do a bloody thing for schizophrenics.

    I’m sure there are schizophrenics who might benefit from occupational therapy, but among the menu of problems schizophrenics have, what’s addressed by occupational therapy is not typically the principal impediment to them holding a job.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Art Deco

    No, the occupational therapy is to keep them occupied. There may also be recreational therapists.

    Anything to meet the supreme Court demand that they must be therapy other than drug therapy.

    You can't just imprison people and make them take drugs, even though that is what society wants to do.

    There is also a question of medical ethics. Medical treatment, for example administering psychotropic drugs, is supposed to be for the benefit of the individual receiving the drugs, not for the benefit of society at large, even though that is part of it.

    All doctors can do is recommend to a judge that a person continues to represent a danger to self or others. Usually judges go along with medical recommendations, but not always.

    So when a dangerous person is released and does harm self or others, then the doctors are not held responsible, and the judges are not held responsible either, because judges are above the law.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  76. In January, the 176-year-old group issued its first-ever apology for its racist past. Acknowledging “appalling past actions” on the part of the profession, its governing board committed the association to “identifying, understanding, and rectifying our past injustices,” and pledged to institute “anti-racist practices” aimed at ending the inequities of the past in care, research, education and leadership.

    Another indication that a large bloc of professional people, especially those prominent on guild boards, are frauds.

    They’d rather not acknowledge psychiatry’s real problems. Among them would be suffering from and promoting a chronic confusion between positive and normative observations, a long history of obfuscatory discourse, a long history of promoting quack therapies, and the implication in all of their interactions with patients that the patient is at fault for bad outcomes.

    There is one reason to maintain psychiatry as a subdiscipline, and that’s to supervise people who are a public order problem but whose specific behavior patterns make prisons a suboptimal milieu for them. That social function is in the realm of long-term care, not medicine (though some medical treatment is incorporated into long-term care). Some of them can be lightly supervised on an outpatient basis, a function more akin to that of a parole officer than a physician.

    These functions aside, the work of the mental health trade is a fee-for-service activity properly financed out of each household’s disposable income, not by third-party payments. And you should probably stay away from most of them.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Art Deco

    There have been several famous criminal cases in which one set of psychiatrists would say the defendant was insane, while another would claim he was sane. Same professional diagnostic techniques, opposite results.

    In the 1924 Leopold-Loeb "thrill killing," both sides had a set of "alienists," the term for psychiatrists at the time. Clarence Darrow decided the "Not Guilty by reason of insanity" defense wouldn't work and his clients would be convicted and hanged in a jury trial, so he pleaded them guilty. The ensuing sentencing hearing was a duel between the "alienists."

    Ironically, the judge (known as the most liberal judge on the Cook County bench), didn't base his decision on the alienists' arguments. Judge John Caverly sentenced them to "Life" because of the defendant's youth.

  77. White psychiatrists have pathologized Black behavior for hundreds of years, wrapping up racist beliefs in the mantle of scientific certainty and even big data.

    Knocking over convenience stores is pathological behavior in just about any society you’d care to name, whether or not said society has a visible black American population.

    • Agree: David In TN
  78. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone who has had to deal with blacks in any real capacity knows that the ‘schizophrenia’ accusation is, in fact, no mere insult.

    What was evolutionary selected for in the malarial hot house of west Africa, had great survival value in that particular environment.
    In today’s Economist run world, it appears that this behavioral characteristic also has great value in whipping dumb gullible feminized weak whites into line.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Troll: Corvinus
  79. @Bardon Kaldian
    Wokes should be apologizing to women, too.

    https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/depression-in-women/

    Depression in Women: 5 Things You Should Know

    ............................

    Depression is more common among women than men, likely due to certain biological, hormonal, and social factors that are unique to women.
    ......................................................................


    That's sexist. You cannot denounce racism without apologizing for sexism.

    You white guys have a long way to go .....

    Replies: @bomag

    You white guys have a long way to go …..

    And the beatings will continue, well, forever.

  80. Other than research on brain chemistry, which by now can also be considered woketarded propaganda, psychiatry is Jewish mind tricks.

    Shrink foot soldiers are waiting in the wings with scientific-sounding gobbledygook when (((the underminers))) finally pass legalized pedophilia and quietly remove it from the DSM.

  81. @Daniel H
    OT: National Review goes gaga over Tim Scott. Scott will show them Dems, that they are the "real racists".

    Pure cuckbait.


    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/tim-scott-front-runner-for-2024/

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Idk man, this is pretty based for NR:

    For this Tower of Babel to remain upright, the approximately half of Democrats who are Caucasian are going to have to remain quiescent if not enthusiastic about the white-hating revanchism being touted in the twice- or thrice-weekly preoccupation of the media in identifying, decrying, and promoting demonstrations about the latest episode of a white police officer shooting a (preferably underaged) unarmed black citizen. In this country of a third of a billion people, where firearms are so venerated, such incidents are numerous (though less frequent than those of the police shooting unarmed white people, which are not considered newsworthy)

    There is more explicitly anti-anti-white content too

  82. @Elli
    @Altai

    A Nigerian woman I knew, professional class, said many of her Nigerian friends planned to send their children back to Nigeria, to boarding school or relatives, by the age of 12 or so, to avoid American black influence in adolescence, and have them back in the US for college.

    Replies: @Altai, @AndrewR

    I’d much rather send my kid to a mostly white private school then send them to Nigeria. Then again I’m not Nigerian

  83. @Morton's toes
    @Mike Tre

    Sir you are in the ballpark. This thread needs visual aid.

    https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2011/05/1.png

    Replies: @anon, @the one they call Desanex

    Very weird illustration. Who’s to say it’s a black man? It could be Jimmy Hall of Wet Willie fame.

  84. Data supports the hypothesis that blacks have a genetic propensity for crime, murder, and violence. Observe FBI criminal statics, look at the booking sheets for your local parrish, county or city jail….. Since the 1964 civil rights act trillions of taxpayer dollars have been spent trying to “Uplift the negro”, as Lyndon Johnson put it. With no success. Every possible excuse has been used to justify their failure. After 57 years of trying to uplift them, they are still the same as always. Had NASA continued to be funded at the same level of the Apollo program, we could have had permanent manned Moon and Mars bases. Instead the Johnson administration decided to fund the give me dat programs that continue to this very day. Why does America waste resources trying to change the unchangeable? Genetics cannot be undone. Although I despise the thought of giving blacks reparations for slavery, that they never experienced…. there should be no reparations without repatriation back to darkest Africa. Then living in a black nation, fail or succeed, they could only blame or congratulate themselves.

  85. @Art Deco
    In January, the 176-year-old group issued its first-ever apology for its racist past. Acknowledging “appalling past actions” on the part of the profession, its governing board committed the association to “identifying, understanding, and rectifying our past injustices,” and pledged to institute “anti-racist practices” aimed at ending the inequities of the past in care, research, education and leadership.

    Another indication that a large bloc of professional people, especially those prominent on guild boards, are frauds.

    They'd rather not acknowledge psychiatry's real problems. Among them would be suffering from and promoting a chronic confusion between positive and normative observations, a long history of obfuscatory discourse, a long history of promoting quack therapies, and the implication in all of their interactions with patients that the patient is at fault for bad outcomes.

    There is one reason to maintain psychiatry as a subdiscipline, and that's to supervise people who are a public order problem but whose specific behavior patterns make prisons a suboptimal milieu for them. That social function is in the realm of long-term care, not medicine (though some medical treatment is incorporated into long-term care). Some of them can be lightly supervised on an outpatient basis, a function more akin to that of a parole officer than a physician.

    These functions aside, the work of the mental health trade is a fee-for-service activity properly financed out of each household's disposable income, not by third-party payments. And you should probably stay away from most of them.

    Replies: @David In TN

    There have been several famous criminal cases in which one set of psychiatrists would say the defendant was insane, while another would claim he was sane. Same professional diagnostic techniques, opposite results.

    In the 1924 Leopold-Loeb “thrill killing,” both sides had a set of “alienists,” the term for psychiatrists at the time. Clarence Darrow decided the “Not Guilty by reason of insanity” defense wouldn’t work and his clients would be convicted and hanged in a jury trial, so he pleaded them guilty. The ensuing sentencing hearing was a duel between the “alienists.”

    Ironically, the judge (known as the most liberal judge on the Cook County bench), didn’t base his decision on the alienists’ arguments. Judge John Caverly sentenced them to “Life” because of the defendant’s youth.

  86. @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Clinical psychologists cannot do a bloody thing for schizophrenics.

    I'm sure there are schizophrenics who might benefit from occupational therapy, but among the menu of problems schizophrenics have, what's addressed by occupational therapy is not typically the principal impediment to them holding a job.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    No, the occupational therapy is to keep them occupied. There may also be recreational therapists.

    Anything to meet the supreme Court demand that they must be therapy other than drug therapy.

    You can’t just imprison people and make them take drugs, even though that is what society wants to do.

    There is also a question of medical ethics. Medical treatment, for example administering psychotropic drugs, is supposed to be for the benefit of the individual receiving the drugs, not for the benefit of society at large, even though that is part of it.

    All doctors can do is recommend to a judge that a person continues to represent a danger to self or others. Usually judges go along with medical recommendations, but not always.

    So when a dangerous person is released and does harm self or others, then the doctors are not held responsible, and the judges are not held responsible either, because judges are above the law.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    No, the occupational therapy is to keep them occupied.

    You've confused occupational therapy with art therapy.


    You can’t just imprison people and make them take drugs, even though that is what society wants to do.

    Done routinely prior to about 1965. For a reason.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  87. @Jonathan Mason
    @Art Deco

    No, the occupational therapy is to keep them occupied. There may also be recreational therapists.

    Anything to meet the supreme Court demand that they must be therapy other than drug therapy.

    You can't just imprison people and make them take drugs, even though that is what society wants to do.

    There is also a question of medical ethics. Medical treatment, for example administering psychotropic drugs, is supposed to be for the benefit of the individual receiving the drugs, not for the benefit of society at large, even though that is part of it.

    All doctors can do is recommend to a judge that a person continues to represent a danger to self or others. Usually judges go along with medical recommendations, but not always.

    So when a dangerous person is released and does harm self or others, then the doctors are not held responsible, and the judges are not held responsible either, because judges are above the law.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    No, the occupational therapy is to keep them occupied.

    You’ve confused occupational therapy with art therapy.

    You can’t just imprison people and make them take drugs, even though that is what society wants to do.

    Done routinely prior to about 1965. For a reason.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Art Deco


    Done routinely prior to about 1965. For a reason.
     
    Yes but you can't do it now in the United States because the Supreme Court said you can't.
  88. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Add this to your collection of black on Asian attack, this one in Seattle’s Chinatown, on a Japanese woman, caught on video:

    https://komonews.com/news/local/suspect-in-chinatown-international-district-attack-had-worked-as-paramedic-in-emt

    The Seattle Times had an article on her recovery today, not a single mention of the attacker being black. But her boyfriend came out and said it:
    https://komonews.com/news/local/suspect-in-chinatown-international-district-attack-had-worked-as-paramedic-in-emt

    The couple said they believe the attack was racially motivated.

    “The guy that hit us was Black,” Poffenbarger said. “She’s Japanese. And I’m white.”

  89. @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    No, the occupational therapy is to keep them occupied.

    You've confused occupational therapy with art therapy.


    You can’t just imprison people and make them take drugs, even though that is what society wants to do.

    Done routinely prior to about 1965. For a reason.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Done routinely prior to about 1965. For a reason.

    Yes but you can’t do it now in the United States because the Supreme Court said you can’t.

  90. Which federal Supreme Court opinion says that?

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Art Deco

    I think he may be referring to Sell v. United States, 539 U.S. 166 (2003). However, my recollection of that case is that it limited the ability of a lower court to order a criminal defendant -- who had been determined incompetent to stand trial because of psychosis -- to take antipsychotic medication (or to have it forcibly administered to him) for the sole purpose of rendering him competent, and thus able to stand trial.

    I don't think the decision can stand for the broad proposition our Paquito en Quito is suggesting, but I don't have time to read the entire case right now.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason

  91. @Buffalo Joe
    @Altai

    Altai, interesting that the mother, who usually gains custody, would ship her young sons off to Nigeria to escape "the indignities of a failing marriage." I was divorced and I know others who were too. None shipped their kids off. Most failing marriages include drama about visitation not exile. Strange story. Thank you.

    Replies: @Altai, @Gary in Gramercy

    And then there’s Ann Dunham…

  92. @Art Deco
    Which federal Supreme Court opinion says that?

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    I think he may be referring to Sell v. United States, 539 U.S. 166 (2003). However, my recollection of that case is that it limited the ability of a lower court to order a criminal defendant — who had been determined incompetent to stand trial because of psychosis — to take antipsychotic medication (or to have it forcibly administered to him) for the sole purpose of rendering him competent, and thus able to stand trial.

    I don’t think the decision can stand for the broad proposition our Paquito en Quito is suggesting, but I don’t have time to read the entire case right now.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Gary in Gramercy

    https://law.jrank.org/pages/24781/O-Connor-v-Donaldson-Significance.html

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Gary in Gramercy

    O'Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in mental health law ruling that a state cannot constitutionally confine a non-dangerous individual who is capable of surviving safely in freedom by themselves or with the help of willing and responsible family members or friends. [Wikipedia]

    It is not the decision that mental patients have constitutional rights alone that is significant, but the way in which giving mental patients their Donaldson rights has been interpreted that is important.

    Since people cannot be held without treatment, then what is treatment?

    Current practice is that people being held involuntarily in a mental hospital must be treated by a multidisciplinary team headed by a qualified psychiatrist and including other disciplines such as psychologists, psychiatric nurses, a dietician, education, recreational, educational, and sometimes occupational and/or physical therapists. There is also a general practice physician and dentist, but usually the nurse acts as a proxy for them as they are busy elsewhere seeing patients.

    (Even mental hospitals recognize that it is not cost effective to have a salaried dentist in meetings all day.)

    The team must meet at a certain frequency, monthly or three monthly, to evaluate the progress of the patient and decide if they can be discharged from the hospital.

    Each discipline is required to have a written plan of treatment that is coordinated by a Treatment Team Coordinator. This treatment plan must have defined goals and objectives with time frames and be regularly updated. Each discipline must submit a written report to the coordinator for every patient every month.

    In addition, there has to be a board-certified psychiatrist for every x patients in the hospital, and a general physician on-site 24/7/365. There also have to be registered nurses present onsite 24/7/365 for every x number of patients. All physical ailments that cannot be treated by general practitioners must be referred to outside specialists at the taxpayers expense. (Hint: Lots of mental patients have diabetes and some psychotropic drugs tend to bring it on. Psychotropic drugs can cause weight gain, constipation and intestinal blockages. Some psychotropic drugs can make men grow breasts.)

    As you might imagine, providing this level of service is VERY expensive, especially as it involves state employees who get pensions, sick leave, and paid vacations.

    So that is why you can't just lock mentally ill people up because they are a nuisance.

    Actually I wish you could! Mentally ill people are shoved out into halfway houses and residential homes where they are often exploited by others and get involved in substance abuse, street drugs, and alcohol, leading to deterioration in their mental state and readmission to the hospital.

    Also, having little to do in the "community", instead of attending useless art therapy or home economy classes where they get achievement certificates for safely microwaving bacon, they may devote their time to panhandling (begging) in public or recycling used cigarette butts from gutters or walking up and down in public places mumbling about Jesus and space ships-- which is considered normal behavior in mental hospitals, but not so much outside.

  93. TWS says:
    @R.G. Camara
    There are two types of criminal defendants:

    1. Those who will never break the law again.

    2. Those who will break the law every day they live.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @TWS

    White boy who gets jammed up for blocking his wife/girlfriend from beating him about the head and neck will usually stay away from the crazy. Assuming he’s not a dirtbag. He’ll still have to take the classes and do the community service but he’ll probably be careful after that.

    Dirtbags and addicts will always return to their vomit and mire.

  94. @peterike
    It's basically impossible to make a trip on the New York City subways anymore without running across one or two blacks who are obviously mentally deranged. Sorry for my racist comment.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Achilleus, @GamecockJerry

    Not racist – just redundant.

  95. @Anon
    OT: Another black brawl at the Miami airport. You'd think if you were in Miami on vacation, you'd be pretty happy and mellow, but it seems to supercharge chimpouts. More ghetto blacks must be flying than usual. I hope they all get Covid.

    https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1390331090842394625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1390331090842394625%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F05%2Fanother-massive-brawl-breaks-miami-international-airport-weaves-go-flying-woman-dragged-across-floor-video%2F

    Replies: @Charon, @Jim Don Bob

    What the hell are these people fighting about?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jim Don Bob

    What difference, at this point, does it make?

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Jim Don Bob

    The big piece of chicken.

  96. @Achilleus
    If you stab old women in the street you should be hung by the neck until dead. No psychological evaluation is necessary, neither is long term care. If you harm random strangers on the street, you cannot be permitted to live - black, white. brown, or yellow.

    Hanging needs to make a comeback, and should be prescribed for a broad range of violent crimes.

    Replies: @lysias

    That’s “hanged by the neck,” not “hung”.

    • Replies: @Achilleus
    @lysias


    That’s “hanged by the neck,” not “hung”.
     
    Thanks for the correction!
  97. @Jonathan Mason
    @Bill P

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that's where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community--mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can't just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support--for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Reg Cæsar, @TWS, @Art Deco, @Anon, @J.Ross

    Actually, let’s abolish the ACLU.

  98. @Jim Don Bob
    @Anon

    What the hell are these people fighting about?

    Replies: @anon, @Gary in Gramercy

    What difference, at this point, does it make?

  99. @Allen
    Off topic, but Van Morrison is sparking outrage with a new song (released today) called "They Control the Media". It's interesting to say the least coming from a big name like him. https://youtu.be/J3Zg023J-ok

    Lyrics:

    They tell us that ignorance is bliss
    I guess for those that control the media it is
    They own the media
    They control the stories we are told
    If you ever try to go against them
    You will be ignored

    Cause they control, they control
    They control the narrative
    They perpetuate the myth
    Keep on telling you lies
    Tell you ignorance is bliss
    Believe it all and you’ll
    Never get wise to the truth
    Cause they control everything you do
    Everything you do
    Everything you do
    Everything you do

    They control the narrative
    They perpetuate the myth
    Keep on selling you lies
    Tell you ignorance is bliss
    Believe it all and you
    Never get the truth
    Never get wise, wise to their lies
    To their lies
    They control the media
    They control the media
    They control the media
    They control the media

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Between this and his “No More Lockdowns” the dude is getting BASED.

  100. @Jonathan Mason
    @Bill P

    I think a lot of schizophrenics graduate to inner cities because that's where there are places like group homes, Salvation Army, public transportation, plus proximity to mental health services, social security offices and such like.

    Inner cities are also more likely to have public spaces like parks and public libraries that are within walking distance, plus plenty of people around for begging and panhandling.

    A lot of these mentally ill street people are paranoid schizophrenics, a condition that is made worse by use of marijuana, other street drugs, to some extent alcohol, and by prescription drugs which are also trafficked and traded.

    Most developed countries seem to have moved from a model of institutionalizing the mentally ill to treating them in the community--mainly because this is cheaper.

    For example, the United States has the most expensive health care and dentistry in the world, but once you institutionalize people, then you are responsible for paying for all of their medical and dental needs, not just the psychiatric ones.

    And then the Supreme Court says that you can't just institutionalize people, but you have to provide them with some kind of therapy, so there have to be armies of psychologists and occupational therapists.

    Then the Supreme Court says that people kept in mental hospitals need to be given paid work, but this work cannot be anything that helps them to contribute to their own support--for example working on a hospital farm to grow vegetables.

    If we can just abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can probably solve the problem of mental illness.

    Replies: @John Up North, @Reg Cæsar, @TWS, @Art Deco, @Anon, @J.Ross

    The reason people (including the Supreme Court) soured on institutionalization is actually illustrated by of all folks Geraldo Rivera near the start of his career.

  101. ‘…Potential explanations for this phenomenon are discussed, including…sociological causes such as…willingness to participate in mental health services…’

    Ya think? Honestly…

  102. @Goingblankagain
    Maybe higher IQ serves to mediate psychotic tendencies or channel them into more functional behaviours?

    The example of John Nash notwithstanding, schizophrenia is strongly inversely correlated with IQ.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Maybe higher IQ serves to mediate psychotic tendencies or channel them into more functional behaviours?’

    That seems likely to me.

    • Agree: sayless
  103. @gandydancer
    @Corvinus


    As you know, it is a rarity with which the insanity defense is used, as it occurs in approximately one percent of all felony cases.
     
    As you presumably know, it is a rarity for criminal cases to go to trial, and when they do the conviction rate is quite high. The value of a schizophrenia diagnosis will therefor usually lie in its value as a bargaining chip in negotiating the plea deal.

    I take it that Sailor was being sardonic, but he is absolutely right that greater black criminality presumably creates a greater demand for black "insanity" diagnoses relative to the demand for white "insanity" diagnoses, even if the effect is not absolutely large.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “As you presumably know, it is a rarity for criminal cases to go to trial, and when they do the conviction rate is quite high.”

    Quite high, huh. Nationally? Certain states? Please be specific here. Also, take into account:

    https://brandongaille.com/20-insanity-plea-statistics/

    In a 1991 study across multiple states, it was found that success rates for insanity pleas were about 25%.

    In the State of Colorado, a 44% success rate was discovered for cases that involved an insanity defense.

    Those with psychotic, affective, or mental disorders were the most likely to be acquitted because of an insanity defense.

    Bench trials are more likely to produce a successful insanity defense than jury trials.

    People who suffer from personality disorders and people charged with sex crimes are the least likely to find success with an insanity plea.

    People who have received 5 or more psychiatric hospitalizations are more likely to receive not guilty by reason of insanity verdict.

    “The value of a schizophrenia diagnosis will therefor usually lie in its value as a bargaining chip in negotiating the plea deal.”

    It’s probably more complicated and nuanced than that.

    “but he is absolutely right that greater black criminality presumably creates a greater demand for black “insanity” diagnoses relative to the demand for white “insanity” diagnoses, even if the effect is not absolutely large”.

    He is speculating. Of course, if he (or you) can offer data here in support…

  104. CCZ says:

    “Keep Social-Justice Indoctrination Out of the Therapist’s Office”

    “A concerned London-based psychotherapist, Val Thomas, has warned of a new trend that she terms Critical Social Justice Therapy, or CSJT: “a practice that views people not as individual actors but rather as representatives of particular groups which are nested within systems of power and trains therapist-activists to diagnose patients through a collective lens.””

    https://quillette.com/2021/05/07/keep-social-justice-indoctrination-out-of-the-therapists-office/

  105. @lysias
    @Achilleus

    That's "hanged by the neck," not "hung".

    Replies: @Achilleus

    That’s “hanged by the neck,” not “hung”.

    Thanks for the correction!

  106. @Mike Tre
    Judith Warner:

    https://www.azquotes.com/public/pictures/authors/79/a9/79a90cf1a2aa1c1cc43f186dcc395466/5434eead1433d_judith_warner.jpg

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Morton's toes, @anonymous, @Sir Launcelot Canning, @Gaspar DeLaFunk

    Trans?

  107. @anon
    @Morton's toes

    Must be a pretty old advert, since they obviously used the late James Brown as a model.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon

    Must be a pretty old advert, since they obviously used the late James Brown as a model.

    It’s Maxine Waters. The telltale difference is that Brown always had a flyaway stray curl over his eye, while Waters’ hair is always completely sprayed down. Their facial features are identical.

  108. @Elli
    @Bill P

    Black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean have much higher rates of schizophrenia in the US and the UK than they do in their native lands, also higher rates of autism, which rises the further north they go.

    Autism, schizophrenia, bipolar, major depression and ADHD share common genes but expression varies. Maybe stress is a trigger, maybe it is a vitamin D deficiency.

    Replies: @Feryl

    Yep, it’s the vitamin D thing. The opposite occurs with white people, white people tend to get crazier as you go further South (compare North Italy to Sicily, or Minnesota to Florida WRT the white population).

    • Disagree: Muggles
  109. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Art Deco

    I think he may be referring to Sell v. United States, 539 U.S. 166 (2003). However, my recollection of that case is that it limited the ability of a lower court to order a criminal defendant -- who had been determined incompetent to stand trial because of psychosis -- to take antipsychotic medication (or to have it forcibly administered to him) for the sole purpose of rendering him competent, and thus able to stand trial.

    I don't think the decision can stand for the broad proposition our Paquito en Quito is suggesting, but I don't have time to read the entire case right now.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason

  110. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Art Deco

    I think he may be referring to Sell v. United States, 539 U.S. 166 (2003). However, my recollection of that case is that it limited the ability of a lower court to order a criminal defendant -- who had been determined incompetent to stand trial because of psychosis -- to take antipsychotic medication (or to have it forcibly administered to him) for the sole purpose of rendering him competent, and thus able to stand trial.

    I don't think the decision can stand for the broad proposition our Paquito en Quito is suggesting, but I don't have time to read the entire case right now.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason

    O’Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in mental health law ruling that a state cannot constitutionally confine a non-dangerous individual who is capable of surviving safely in freedom by themselves or with the help of willing and responsible family members or friends. [Wikipedia]

    It is not the decision that mental patients have constitutional rights alone that is significant, but the way in which giving mental patients their Donaldson rights has been interpreted that is important.

    Since people cannot be held without treatment, then what is treatment?

    Current practice is that people being held involuntarily in a mental hospital must be treated by a multidisciplinary team headed by a qualified psychiatrist and including other disciplines such as psychologists, psychiatric nurses, a dietician, education, recreational, educational, and sometimes occupational and/or physical therapists. There is also a general practice physician and dentist, but usually the nurse acts as a proxy for them as they are busy elsewhere seeing patients.

    (Even mental hospitals recognize that it is not cost effective to have a salaried dentist in meetings all day.)

    The team must meet at a certain frequency, monthly or three monthly, to evaluate the progress of the patient and decide if they can be discharged from the hospital.

    Each discipline is required to have a written plan of treatment that is coordinated by a Treatment Team Coordinator. This treatment plan must have defined goals and objectives with time frames and be regularly updated. Each discipline must submit a written report to the coordinator for every patient every month.

    In addition, there has to be a board-certified psychiatrist for every x patients in the hospital, and a general physician on-site 24/7/365. There also have to be registered nurses present onsite 24/7/365 for every x number of patients. All physical ailments that cannot be treated by general practitioners must be referred to outside specialists at the taxpayers expense. (Hint: Lots of mental patients have diabetes and some psychotropic drugs tend to bring it on. Psychotropic drugs can cause weight gain, constipation and intestinal blockages. Some psychotropic drugs can make men grow breasts.)

    As you might imagine, providing this level of service is VERY expensive, especially as it involves state employees who get pensions, sick leave, and paid vacations.

    So that is why you can’t just lock mentally ill people up because they are a nuisance.

    Actually I wish you could! Mentally ill people are shoved out into halfway houses and residential homes where they are often exploited by others and get involved in substance abuse, street drugs, and alcohol, leading to deterioration in their mental state and readmission to the hospital.

    Also, having little to do in the “community”, instead of attending useless art therapy or home economy classes where they get achievement certificates for safely microwaving bacon, they may devote their time to panhandling (begging) in public or recycling used cigarette butts from gutters or walking up and down in public places mumbling about Jesus and space ships– which is considered normal behavior in mental hospitals, but not so much outside.

  111. @Jim Don Bob
    @Anon

    What the hell are these people fighting about?

    Replies: @anon, @Gary in Gramercy

    The big piece of chicken.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke

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