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The New York Times routinely runs articles about how the Obama Administration isn’t encouraging rioting and illegal immigration enough. These are obvious media set-ups with the Administration to justify the Administration moving even further to the left. Here’s the latest:

Unrest Over Race Is Testing Obama’s Legacy
By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and MICHAEL D. SHEAR DEC. 8, 2014

Some White House advisers say it is imperative for President Obama to address racial conflict during his final two years in office.

WASHINGTON — As crowds of people staged “die-ins” across the country last week to protest the deaths of unarmed black men at the hands of police officers, young African-American activists were in the Oval Office lodging grievances with President Obama.

He of all people — the first black president of the United States — was in a position to testify to the sense of injustice that African-Americans feel in dealing with the police every day, the activists told him. During the unrest that began with a teenager’s shooting in Ferguson, Mo., they hoped for a strong response. Why was he holding back?

Mr. Obama told the group that change is “hard and incremental,” a participant said, while reminding them that he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.

Obama’s life story remains galvanizingly fascinating to Obama …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7flZEDMT6I

When they said their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”

For Rasheen Aldridge Jr., 20, a community organizer from St. Louis who attended the meeting, it was not enough.

Are the late Zemir Begic’s St. Louis relatives invited to the Oval Office as well?

“It hurt that he didn’t seem to want to go out there and acknowledge that he understands our pain,” Mr. Aldridge said in an interview. “It would be a great mark on his presidential legacy if he would come out and touch an issue that everyone is scared to touch.”

Obama should go to Ferguson and personally shove Apu the shopkeeper, torch his Quikee Mart, then spraypaint “Snitches Get Stitches” on the charred wall.

But Mr. Obama has not been the kind of champion for racial justice that many African-Americans say this moment demands. In the days since grand juries in Missouri and Staten Island decided not to bring charges against white police officers who had killed unarmed black men, the president has not stood behind the protesters or linked arms with civil rights leaders.

He’s only inviting Al Sharpton to the Oval Office all the time.

From commenter Donut, here’s “Al Sharpton vs. the Teleprompter, #1:”

Back to the NYT:

… “I’m being pretty explicit about my concern, and being pretty explicit about the fact that this is a systemic problem, that black folks and Latinos and others are not just making this up,” Mr. Obama said, referring to his response to the killings in Ferguson and on Staten Island, where Eric Garner, 43, died after a police officer restrained him with a chokehold. People may be frustrated that he has not taken sides in the cases, Mr. Obama said, but “that I cannot do, institutionally.” He hinted that in private, his reactions have been stronger.

“I’ll leave it to people to speculate on what I’m saying to myself or Michelle when we’re alone at night,” the president said.

Oh boy …

… Mr. Obama has stepped up some of his rhetoric. In a huddle with Ms. Jarrett and Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr. in the Oval Office last month, the president ripped up the beginning of a speech he was about to give on immigration and added a pledge to advocates for change that “your president will be right there with you.”

… At this point, Mr. Obama’s response to Ferguson, Staten Island and the unrest across the country has diminished his image with important groups, according to new polling figures. Half the respondents in a Pew Research Center survey conducted Wednesday to Sunday disapproved of the president’s handling of race relations, compared with 40 percent who approved — a reversal from August, when 48 percent approved and 42 percent disapproved. While the majority of African-Americans still said the president had handled race relations well, support among them had dropped 16 points since polling in the summer.

Actually, the big news in the Pew poll is that by December whites disapprove of Obama’s handling of race relations by a 57-33 margin. That’s a lot bigger problem for Obama and Democrats in general than lessening enthusiasm among blacks.

For now, civil rights leaders continue to lobby Ms. Jarrett and other White House aides to pressure the president into seizing on the post-Ferguson anger. But Mr. Obama is limited in how directly he can engage. He sent representatives to the funeral of Michael Brown, the 18-year-old shot in Ferguson, and the youth’s parents said they thought it was better for Mr. Obama not to pay his respects in person rather than risk creating more chaos.

In Ms. Jarrett’s view, Mr. Brown’s death has unleashed a new energy among African-Americans on an issue that Mr. Obama is ready to embrace.

“New energy” = Looting and burning.

During the Oval Office meeting last week, she said, the president urged the young activists to keep up the pressure on society.

Like I said, this is a totally phony push-me / pull-you set-up.

Ms. Jarrett said he had told them, “Shoot for the sky.”

Is it really asking too much for the President to stop encouraging blacks angry about Ferguson to shoot? Aren’t hammers getting the job done well enough?

 
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  1. Based on my viewing of classic Westerns, “shoot for the sky” sounds more like a latino thing.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @josh

    I watched "Three Amigos" on Thanksgiving and kept thinking: "How can they afford all those bullets they're shooting into the sky?"

    Replies: @TWS

  2. @josh
    Based on my viewing of classic Westerns, "shoot for the sky" sounds more like a latino thing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I watched “Three Amigos” on Thanksgiving and kept thinking: “How can they afford all those bullets they’re shooting into the sky?”

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Steve Sailer

    Yet they do it at every celebration they can get away with it.

  3. Anonymous [AKA "Fred C"] says:

    Why is Sharpton still around after all these years?

    Lack of competition

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Anonymous


    Why is Sharpton still around after all these years?
     
    Because "you" keep bringing him up?
  4. And I’ve been mistaken for a sales clerk. So what?

    Does Obama think he’s always had a presidential aura that only a racist would miss?

    Yes, he probably does.

  5. I would be afraid to spend one night in a black neighborhood in my state. People get shot taking out their garbage. All white people know how dangerous black neighborhoods are.

  6. I imagine that if Obama could run for a third term his campaign slogan would be “Burn this bitch down!”

  7. “Mr. Obama told … them that he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.”

    See, he can multi-task.

  8. When they said their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”

    Say what you will about Obama, but he’s pretty good at off-the-cuff one-liners.

    By the way, isn’t it racist of these protestors to be so dismissive and disrespectful of our first black president?

  9. When they said their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”

    Say what you will about Obama, but he’s pretty good at off-the-cuff one-liners.

    By the way, isn’t it racist of these protestors to be so dismissive and disrespectful of our first black president?

    • Replies: @pyrrhus
    @691

    Wait, I thought that was Clinton!?

  10. When they said their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”

    For Rasheen Aldridge Jr., 20, a community organizer from St. Louis who attended the meeting, it was not enough

    Irony overload. First, the old community organizer trying to counsel the new community organizer, all from the Oval Office. And the new one (at the ripe old age of 20) has such an enormous sense of entitlement, he dismisses the entire exchange.

    Second, can you image what kind of language Obama and Michelle have used in discussing Mike Brown? I think most of Obama’s supporters would be shocked.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Steve from Detroit

    "Irony overload."

    Black folks have no sense of irony.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  11. He of all people — the first black president of the United States — was in a position to testify to the sense of injustice that African-Americans feel

    A half-white/half-Kenyan raised by UMC whites in Indonesia and Hawaii?

    How old are Pinch’s kids? They say greatness skips a generation.

  12. ” He’s only inviting Al Sharpton to the Oval Office all the time.”

    I thought he was inviting Sharpton to show his support for the mentally challenged or as they were called in days gone by “retards”.

  13. Sharpton is getting old and will soon need a replacement. Obamski is brushing up his credentials.

    Just wait until he’s out of office and can go full Bulworth. I think a lot of people, except perhaps regular readers here, will be shocked at the depths he is going to plumb. More interesting times than usual await us.

  14. In Ms. Jarrett’s view, Mr. Brown’s death has unleashed a new energy among African-Americans on an issue that Mr. Obama is ready to embrace.

    It sure didn’t translate into votes last month.

  15. I woke up eagerly waiting for the Sailer translation 🙂

    “he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.”

    I do high end white collar desk work, but I’ve been mistaken for a waiter and a store clerk and it was completely inoffensive. The idea that he presents that as some deep racist affront is bizarre.

    Beyond, being mistaken for a waiter, I actually did lots of food service work and yard work when I was younger. I’m proud of that and admire others that do hard, honest work. The idea that a waiter is some deep insult is offensive.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Massimo Heitor


    Beyond, being mistaken for a waiter, I actually did lots of food service work and yard work when I was younger. I’m proud of that and admire others that do hard, honest work. The idea that a waiter is some deep insult is offensive.
     
    It's more revealing than offensive. What kind of a scumbag thinks being mistaken for a waiter or valet is offensive?
    , @Anonymous
    @Massimo Heitor


    The idea that a waiter is some deep insult is offensive.
     
    This is a perennial problem with the Talented Tenth. WEB Du Bois flattered them too much. They consider themselves an order of magnitude better than the black proletariat and desperately seek affirmation from white folks that this is so.

    Unfortunately this contempt for blue collar work and the black proletariat has infected many of the black proletariat who could (at best) be good waiters and parking lot attendants. As a result, the black proletariat doesn't care whether illegal aliens take the blue collar jobs they used to do.

    Even worse, rich black folks reinforce the idea that blue collar work is inherently demeaning by hiring white folks as underlings, i.e. hiring white folks as their chauffeurs, nannies, and servants. They feel a frisson of racial pleasure in ordering white folks around. This, too, gets communicated to the black proletariat, who (sadly) ignore black businesses in order to shop at white businesses with white clerks.
  16. @Anonymous
    Why is Sharpton still around after all these years?

    Lack of competition

    Replies: @Truth

    Why is Sharpton still around after all these years?

    Because “you” keep bringing him up?

  17. “Obama should go to Ferguson and personally shove Apu the shopkeeper, torch his Quikee Mart, then spraypaint “Snitches Get Stitches” on the charred wall”

    It is interesting that vdare changes its anti immigrant line when there are black people doing something. Why is Apu even in this country? The rule of law completely collapsed under the Bush II years. Since the lawlessness was top down it did not involve petty street rioting.

    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
    @george

    Uh, Apu being here is irrelevant. "VDare" or people who are pro citizen and pro immigration restriction may want fewer "Apus" but nowhere have I ever seen one of them advocate violence against them.

    Being anti-immigration doesn't mean you are pro violence against immigrants you nincompoop.

  18. This statement, I think, reveals that Prez Obama knows the truth:

    “… black folks and Latinos and others are not just making this up… ”

    Well, yeah, they are… with your help!

  19. “Mr. Obama told the group that change is “hard and incremental,” a participant said, while reminding them that he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.”

    Unsuprising: like a waiter or parking valet, Obama is nothing but a hireling – a servutor of the wealthy interests who run the country.

  20. “Elli says:

    And I’ve been mistaken for a sales clerk. So what?

    Does Obama think he’s always had a presidential aura that only a racist would miss?

    Yes, he probably does.”

    Who among us has not been mistaken for an employee while at the hardware store or some such. As you say, Obama has a massive sense of entitlement as some kind of “chosen one”.

    • Replies: @J1234
    @Mr. Anon

    "Who among us has not been mistaken for an employee while at the hardware store or some such. "

    ---

    I went to volunteer at a soup kitchen once and was mistaken for a homeless person. I considered it a worthwhile learning experience rather than a humiliation.

    Replies: @NOTA

  21. “Truth says:

    @Fred C

    “”Why is Sharpton still around after all these years?””

    Because “you” keep bringing him up?”

    That is certainly a stupid comment, even for “Truth”. In a sane country, Sharpton would be an irrelevancy. He is a representative of the “black community” because black people want him to be their representative.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Mr. Anon

    Do they? Mostly, Sharpton seems to be a media whore. He appears on talking head programs with other people of similar intelligence and integrity, shows up whenever there are TV cameras and protests about some race-related issue, etc. I don't think he's ever been elected to anything, and it's hard to imagine anyone choosing him as their spokesman.

    , @Art Deco
    @Mr. Anon

    He is a representative of the “black community” because black people want him to be their representative.

    On his best day, he could get a third of the vote in a Democratic Party primary in New York City (running against a red haze denizen from the Upper West Side) jonesing for the privilege of being dispatched by Rudolph Giuliani. That was half-a-generation ago. He's 60. His best days are not ahead of him.

  22. @Massimo Heitor
    I woke up eagerly waiting for the Sailer translation :)

    "he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet."

    I do high end white collar desk work, but I've been mistaken for a waiter and a store clerk and it was completely inoffensive. The idea that he presents that as some deep racist affront is bizarre.

    Beyond, being mistaken for a waiter, I actually did lots of food service work and yard work when I was younger. I'm proud of that and admire others that do hard, honest work. The idea that a waiter is some deep insult is offensive.

    Replies: @Bill, @Anonymous

    Beyond, being mistaken for a waiter, I actually did lots of food service work and yard work when I was younger. I’m proud of that and admire others that do hard, honest work. The idea that a waiter is some deep insult is offensive.

    It’s more revealing than offensive. What kind of a scumbag thinks being mistaken for a waiter or valet is offensive?

  23. “I’ll leave it to people to speculate on what I’m saying to myself or Michelle when we’re alone at night,” the president said.

    Do we have to?

    He of all people — the first black president of the United States — was in a position to testify to the sense of injustice that African-Americans feel

    And also, only African Americans can understand the race problem because they see it from both sides. White Americans only see it from the white side but black Americans see it from both sides.

    That is because black Americans have to act white to get with the dominant culture. For instance during their day jobs (cough cough) they have to act white to get along at the office and the garage, so they know about all that.

    But the converse? that’s a no go Joe. White people get to be white all the time. Because they are so ultra dominant and awesome and impregnable that they are in no way affected by blacks and browns in their schools and neighborhoods. Whites are completely impervious to any influence from the 100 million-plus non-whites living amongst them and their children. Whites are still the majority (even if not among the youth!) and so therefore their perspective and lives have been changed not at all! and they have no say.

    Who wants to hear what the white side has to say anyways. It’s just some old guy in overalls and a straw hat and drunk at noon.

    There is a new job available, though it is more an avocation and they are not advertising for it in the classifieds (what do you think this is, 1965?); the pay is negligible but the notoriety is huge and they call it a demagogue.

    The book on most prominent display at Barnes and Nobles (waspy name alert!), facing outward into the concourse of the mall, was Stop the Coming Civil War by Michael Savage, so it would appear he’s the one for it: our own dearest and newest yenahu-ist is gonna break it down and let us know what’s up. They are so good at that it’s almost like they were made for it.

  24. All these people, starting with the president on down, are what’s known as lifelong ‘grievance collectors’, people who collect every single insult, slight, micro-aggression or imaginings of such since childhood and carry it around with them in their own personal gunny sack. They trot it out constantly for effect at the right moment. He was once mistaken for a waiter and then a parking valet? People were supposed to know automatically that he was royalty even on those days he wasn’t wearing his purple robes? I’ve also been mistaken for a mere servant a few times and also stopped by the cops who thought I looked like someone else. These ‘gunny sackers’ make a big show out of their hurt feelings then follow on with a public forgiveness of those who have sinned against them, making themselves seem even nobler, the sinners being admonished to now make restitution.
    Meanwhile, in the real world, every single white person I’ve known has had bad experiences with blacks: harassed, cursed at, assaulted, raped, mugged, stolen from, aggressed against, problematic employees, you name it. I knew one person murdered by blacks in front of his girlfriend. Begic? Whoozat? They are totally self-absorbed and are intrinsically incapable of any empathy that extends beyond tribalism. People have to quit projecting their own mentality upon other groups that evolved along different lines. Their thinking boils down to me me me. They’ve got a couple more years to indulge in what really interests them, which is themselves.

    • Replies: @Another Canadian
    @I am anonymous


    All these people, starting with the president on down, are what’s known as lifelong ‘grievance collectors’, people who collect every single insult, slight, micro-aggression or imaginings of such since childhood and carry it around with them in their own personal gunny sack. They trot it out constantly for effect at the right moment.
     
    You said a mouthful there. I believe everyone knows someone like this and the best thing you can do is get them out of your life.
  25. “I’ll leave it to people to speculate on what I’m saying to myself or Michelle when we’re alone at night,” the president said.

    I reckon it’s something along the lines of, “Fooled them again, didn’t we?”

  26. This from NYT in a city that cleaned up by ordering cops to get tough on blacks?

    Say one thing, do something other.

  27. I’ve never been mistaken as a waiter or sales clerk…

    But that’s because I dress so scummy everyone thinks I”m a bum

    🙂

  28. I don’t know what Obama and Michelle say when they are ‘alone at night’ though its something David Letterman might want to do a ‘Top Ten’ list on but I can well imagine but not print the racial slurs they would utter if one of their daughters showed up with a Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin or Dorian Johnson in tow as the father of their ‘baby’.

  29. the reason the corporate media (and their corporate backers) like it when blacks riot against white racism (which is mostly imaginary in these cases) is that such riots put most whites on the defensive regarding race. These riots instill white race guilt into many whites.

    Thus guiltified, thus cowed by white race guilt, most whites will be more afraid of speaking out against mass immigration of nonwhite third world cheap labor/potential consumer-shoppers.

    It’s all about money.

    Oh, that’s right. I forgot. You guys don’t want to see the mega-corporations behind the curtain.

    Forgive me. I will conform. Yeah, these riots and protests and the media egging them on is all about them dirty commie, socialist liberal cultural marxists. That’s all. Crazy stupid liberals versus pure, intelligent conservatives. That’s it.

    Each side has its own set of taboos. I must conform…must conform…must conform…

  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    People may be frustrated that he has not taken sides in the cases, Mr. Obama said, but “that I cannot do, institutionally.” He hinted that in private, his reactions have been stronger. “I’ll leave it to people to speculate on what I’m saying to myself or Michelle when we’re alone at night,” the president said.

    So just as April Glaspie gave a dog whistle to Saddam Hussein, Obama gives a dog whistle to Al Sharpton and friends.

  31. A classic ‘Pull the Tregroes, Negroes” scenario:

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @FredR

    Nice blast from the past.

    For folks who need a little background

    Sacrilege #6: JOAN BAEZ ...

    http://illfolks.blogspot.com/2007/06/sacrilege-6-joan-baez-pull-triggers.html


    Here's Joan protesting in 1965 (James Baldwin with the barefoot Baez) and in 2005 (re. the execution of "reformed" ex-crip Tookie Williams). But in 1972 the National Lampoon protested her, via parody.

    Oh, the sacrilege!

    How could they fug with such a well-meaning folkie?

    First thing they had to do was avoid using the inflammatory title "Pull the Triggers, NXXXXXX." They didn't need no stinkin' Sharpton to tell 'em not to be that rude. The Lampoon's "Radio Dinner" song was punningly if not cunningly titled "Pull the Tregroes." But the N-word was sung on that black vinyl of black humor.

    Written by Tony "Going too Far" Hendra, and performed by a Baez soundalike named Diana Reed, the song references George Jackson. In 1970 Jackson and two other inmates killed a prison guard. As one of the "Soledad Brothers" he wrote a few books and joined rivals Eldridge Cleaver and Black Panther Huey Newton as a pet of white liberals, the kind who condoned violence as long as it was "just across the bay."
    Liberals with the same perceived Baez bias against law enforcement probably admired Jackson's brother, who later in 1970 stormed into a Marin County courtroom and seized Judge Harold Haley as a hostage. Haley's face was blown off during the getaway, and Jackson was killed as well.

    In 1971, after receiving a gun smuggled to him by a well-meaning white guy, George Jackson shot prison guard Jere Graham in the head, execution-style, exclaiming, "Let's see if this works." Two more guards as well as two white prisoners bled to death before Jackson was gunned down and the prison riot brought under control.

    While it was actually Joan's ex-boyfriend Bob Dylan who came out of protest-song retirement to release a single called "George Jackson," the Lampoon gang mocked Baez instead.
    The mock Joan sings: "Just because I can't be there doesn't mean I don't care. So next time, Brother, off a pig for me." The chorus: "Pull the triggers, xxxxxxx, we're with you all the way, just across the bay."

    Later in the song Joan is crucified for being sanctimonious ("I'm the world's Madonna...I'm needed from Belfast to Bangladesh"). She confesses to trying to right "grievous wrongs" by writing "tedious songs." All these years later, Joan Baez is still singing her heart out, and sometimes wearing it on her sleeve.

    Pull the trigger on this download.
     
    Later parodied by National Lampoon in their show Lemmings as

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lampoon_Lemmings

  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Massimo Heitor
    I woke up eagerly waiting for the Sailer translation :)

    "he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet."

    I do high end white collar desk work, but I've been mistaken for a waiter and a store clerk and it was completely inoffensive. The idea that he presents that as some deep racist affront is bizarre.

    Beyond, being mistaken for a waiter, I actually did lots of food service work and yard work when I was younger. I'm proud of that and admire others that do hard, honest work. The idea that a waiter is some deep insult is offensive.

    Replies: @Bill, @Anonymous

    The idea that a waiter is some deep insult is offensive.

    This is a perennial problem with the Talented Tenth. WEB Du Bois flattered them too much. They consider themselves an order of magnitude better than the black proletariat and desperately seek affirmation from white folks that this is so.

    Unfortunately this contempt for blue collar work and the black proletariat has infected many of the black proletariat who could (at best) be good waiters and parking lot attendants. As a result, the black proletariat doesn’t care whether illegal aliens take the blue collar jobs they used to do.

    Even worse, rich black folks reinforce the idea that blue collar work is inherently demeaning by hiring white folks as underlings, i.e. hiring white folks as their chauffeurs, nannies, and servants. They feel a frisson of racial pleasure in ordering white folks around. This, too, gets communicated to the black proletariat, who (sadly) ignore black businesses in order to shop at white businesses with white clerks.

  33. he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.

    At the same time?

    Anyway, this is what happens when you sneak away from your date, or wife, and go have a smoke around back with the hired help.

  34. “I’ll leave it to people to speculate on what I’m saying to myself or Michelle when we’re alone at night,” the president said.”

    He probably says to her, “Not tonight, honey, I have a headache.”

  35. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    • Replies: @Hard Line Realist
    @The most deplorable one

    Would that be a case of Mississippi Burning?

    I think Obama wants to be remembered for creating a race war.

  36. @Steve from Detroit
    When they said their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”

    For Rasheen Aldridge Jr., 20, a community organizer from St. Louis who attended the meeting, it was not enough


    Irony overload. First, the old community organizer trying to counsel the new community organizer, all from the Oval Office. And the new one (at the ripe old age of 20) has such an enormous sense of entitlement, he dismisses the entire exchange.

    Second, can you image what kind of language Obama and Michelle have used in discussing Mike Brown? I think most of Obama's supporters would be shocked.

    Replies: @David In TN

    “Irony overload.”

    Black folks have no sense of irony.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @David In TN

    Kind of a stupid thing to say, Dave.

    Replies: @David In TN

  37. But Mr. Obama has not been the kind of champion for racial justice that many African-Americans say this moment demands.

    It’s been said before, but I’ll say it again: the defining fact about all of this is that these crappy non-lynchings really are the best the Dems and the blacks and the left can come up with:

    Tawana Brawley
    Duke Lacrosse Hoax
    Zimmerman Affair
    Ferguson Flap
    UVA Rape Hoax

    They’ve got a country with 300 million to work with, and these really are the best Great White Defendants they can come up with.

    It almost seems like they’re rioting because white America won’t give them anything real to complain about. “It’s Unjust that oppressive white America is hiding from us! We need to feed the PR Machine!”

  38. @george
    "Obama should go to Ferguson and personally shove Apu the shopkeeper, torch his Quikee Mart, then spraypaint “Snitches Get Stitches” on the charred wall"

    It is interesting that vdare changes its anti immigrant line when there are black people doing something. Why is Apu even in this country? The rule of law completely collapsed under the Bush II years. Since the lawlessness was top down it did not involve petty street rioting.

    Replies: @Aeronerauk

    Uh, Apu being here is irrelevant. “VDare” or people who are pro citizen and pro immigration restriction may want fewer “Apus” but nowhere have I ever seen one of them advocate violence against them.

    Being anti-immigration doesn’t mean you are pro violence against immigrants you nincompoop.

  39. And I’ve been mistaken for a sales clerk. So what?

    Does Obama think he’s always had a presidential aura that only a racist would miss?

    Yes, he probably does.

    In my youth, I was pulled over by the police and sat on the curb for 10 minutes while they talked on the radio. Apparently, I matched a description of a rape suspect. Oh, poor me, I’ve been harassed! I’ve been victimized! I’ve been racially profiled! No Justice, No Peace!

    Oh, wait, I’m white. Never mind.

    It sure didn’t translate into votes last month.

    Liberal troll at Politico was threatening all the cons with the 2016 election. Got to give ’em points for being totally full of shit. No half-measures.

  40. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The other day the thought struck me that black Americans racialize every single interaction with white officialdom – and perhaps non-officialdom – in which blacks somehow come out of as the perceived loser or victim. Yes, that’s right, whenever a white who for whatever reason ‘represents’ officialdom does something which is perceived as being to the detriment of a black, then a ‘racist’ animus must be thought of as guiding the white’s action.
    And this ‘trend’ only seems to intensify year on year. Clearly, if this default convention persists then in no possible way can black and white Americans live in the same polity, simply because whites will be disqualified entirely from dealing with blacks, on any basis whatsoever, if for no other reason.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Anonymous

    Do most blacks do this? The ones on TV do, because that gets ratings and it's easier than thinking. But blacks I interact with in my daily life sure don't.

  41. OT: The recent dismissal of conspiracy to murder charges against Shrien Dewani in South Africa has got to be one of the more perfect convergences of crazy. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-29914835

    1. Indian and international homosexual living in Britain (Shrien) is pressured into an arranged marriage with an educated Indian girl living in Sweden (Anni) by his wealthy parents.

    2. Anni’s wealthy parents throw a $300k wedding for their daughter in India, the home country, no doubt to impress their kin.

    3. The couple go to S. Africa for their honeymoon, where they are carjacked and Anni is murdered (and God knows what else) by three blacks.

    4. Hotel video and other records show Shrien meeting with one of the blacks repeatedly before the murder.

    5. The three blacks are convicted or otherwise plead and the big trial takes place to convict Shrien for conspiring to get rid of Anni because the whole marriage thing rather repulses him. “I tried mom and dad . . . but my wife got butchered. Give me a little space . . . for maybe thirty or so years and I’ll try again. I promise.”

    6. The prosecution is addled by three low-IQ impaired blacks whose inability to articulate and explain what they’d done to Anni and with Shrien enrages and confuses the judge and endangers the case. When the prosecution tries to introduce evidence via a German gay prostitute (“The Master”) that Shrien wanted to get rid of his wife to continue his pursuit of boot-licking and being “used” at gay orgies, the (female, white) judge is mortified that any such inclination on Shrien’s part can have any relevance to the supposed conspiracy to murder.

    7. The judge dismisses the case for lack of evidence.

    8. Shrien’s family throws a big bash for his defense team to celebrate this sound exercise of justice and presumably is out looking for another bride for their charming son.

    The insanity is world-wide. First, why are these Indians in Europe–who needs them–don’t we have enough of our own freaks? Next because Whites refuse to accept that blacks are intellectually limited, without hard, objective forensic evidence, you’ll have all sorts of horrors happening in the criminal justice system when you rely on blacks to explain themselves, the world, anything. Had the forensic evidence of Brown’s assault and subsequent bull-rush of Wilson been absent, Wilson would have been tried for murder. Zimmerman would have been convicted and in jail.

    Finally, most important, gay PC protocol seems to be moving up and up to triumph all other interests–something as obvious as a gay man from a traditional Indian world desperate to be rid of his meddlesome wife cannot be explored because being gay has nothing to do with . . . anything. It’s irrelevant. It’s the absolute no-notice zone.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @OsRazor

    I can't wait for the movie.

  42. @Mr. Anon
    "Truth says:

    @Fred C

    ""Why is Sharpton still around after all these years?""

    Because “you” keep bringing him up?"

    That is certainly a stupid comment, even for "Truth". In a sane country, Sharpton would be an irrelevancy. He is a representative of the "black community" because black people want him to be their representative.

    Replies: @NOTA, @Art Deco

    Do they? Mostly, Sharpton seems to be a media whore. He appears on talking head programs with other people of similar intelligence and integrity, shows up whenever there are TV cameras and protests about some race-related issue, etc. I don’t think he’s ever been elected to anything, and it’s hard to imagine anyone choosing him as their spokesman.

  43. “I’ll leave it to people to speculate on what I’m saying to myself or Michelle when we’re alone at night,” the president said.

    You were offended when your White grandmother wanted her bum husband to stand up for her after being harassed by a black male. You were in Rev Wright’s church for 20 years and dedicated a book to him. You made Eric Holder attorney general. You have Al Sharpton as a top advisor. You think Trayvon could have been your son.

    We know, Barack, we know.

    the president ripped up the beginning of a speech he was about to give on immigration and added a pledge to advocates for change that “your president will be right there with you.

    Steve, time to connect the Fergusons of America with immigration.

    Just spell out how the American establishment, Republican and Democrat, NEED Foreign Bodies because America’s Black Bodies are too dumb, lazy and violent.

    Lets just be honest here.

  44. Mrs. Hirshfield Davis apparently hasn’t read up on her Black History.

    This is disappointing because most public school children, who have 5 years of black history before they learn American history, could tell her how she’s Wrong.

    To Review it for her:

    Booker T Washington: believes in the electoral process, electing representatives and forming democratic coalitions.

    W.E.B. Dubois: believes in disrupting things, forcing change by getting into people’s faces, up to the point of provoking violence.

    Booker T Washington alone: civil rights progress seemingly reverses, and hard fought gains start to disappear.

    W.E.B. Dubois alone: Black provocations draw a white violent response resulting in a segregationist president.

    Booker T working with Dubois: The more Dubois provokes, the more power white people cede to the “reasonable one,” Booker T. This results in steady civil rights gains, until Booker T Washington dies and there is nobody of his stature to replace him.

    Every Child learns that black civil rights gain come from the social justice version of good cop / bad cop.

    Al Sharpton even gave away the game last week, encouraging agitation for exactly these reasons. Obama isn’t suppossed to provoke, he’s supposed to appear reasonable until Sharpton agitates enough for whites to turn over to Obama.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @josh

    I watched "Three Amigos" on Thanksgiving and kept thinking: "How can they afford all those bullets they're shooting into the sky?"

    Replies: @TWS

    Yet they do it at every celebration they can get away with it.

  46. The NYT is the coastal elite’s mouthpiece of choice. It does not at all reflect what the rest of country thinks or feels. I seriously doubt that the writers for the paper could find the states of Nebraska or Idaho on a map.

    But if you’re looking for what the elites want you to know, you’ve come to the right paper.

    As for Obama he is doing his best to egg blacks on to riot and blame whitey for all their ills, that’s quite obvious given his comments on the subject. Look it’s nothing new with him, look how he elevated to the national level what happened to that black professor back East when got into a scuffle with a cop. A normal president would never stoop to this level. This sort of behavior is the domain of the race agitator.

    I’d bet, that this Obama is the real Obama. Not the phony one whites voted for 2008 and ’12. And we’re going to be seeing a lot more hate coming from him, since he has nothing to lose.

  47. @David In TN
    @Steve from Detroit

    "Irony overload."

    Black folks have no sense of irony.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Kind of a stupid thing to say, Dave.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Art Deco

    Still more juvenile language on serious subjects.

  48. This survey report from Pew gives the breakdown of opinions about police by race, age, and party affiliation. Notably, blacks tend to have a lower opinion of police (in terms of appropriate use of force and policing themselves and racial discrimination) than whites, but whites don’t actually have all that positive an opinion. I think it’s clear to most everyone that the police can often get away with serious misbehavior.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @NOTA

    I think it’s clear to most everyone that the police can often get away with serious misbehavior.

    "Most everyone' would be about 30% of those surveyed.

    Replies: @NOTA

  49. @Mr. Anon
    "Truth says:

    @Fred C

    ""Why is Sharpton still around after all these years?""

    Because “you” keep bringing him up?"

    That is certainly a stupid comment, even for "Truth". In a sane country, Sharpton would be an irrelevancy. He is a representative of the "black community" because black people want him to be their representative.

    Replies: @NOTA, @Art Deco

    He is a representative of the “black community” because black people want him to be their representative.

    On his best day, he could get a third of the vote in a Democratic Party primary in New York City (running against a red haze denizen from the Upper West Side) jonesing for the privilege of being dispatched by Rudolph Giuliani. That was half-a-generation ago. He’s 60. His best days are not ahead of him.

  50. @Anonymous
    The other day the thought struck me that black Americans racialize every single interaction with white officialdom - and perhaps non-officialdom - in which blacks somehow come out of as the perceived loser or victim. Yes, that's right, whenever a white who for whatever reason 'represents' officialdom does something which is perceived as being to the detriment of a black, then a 'racist' animus must be thought of as guiding the white's action.
    And this 'trend' only seems to intensify year on year. Clearly, if this default convention persists then in no possible way can black and white Americans live in the same polity, simply because whites will be disqualified entirely from dealing with blacks, on any basis whatsoever, if for no other reason.

    Replies: @NOTA

    Do most blacks do this? The ones on TV do, because that gets ratings and it’s easier than thinking. But blacks I interact with in my daily life sure don’t.

  51. He better be careful he’s tip toeing the the micro-agression line with his fuming about being confused for a waiter. Everyone knows black male waiter is code for gay so a black guy being confused for a waiter is a compliment.

  52. @NOTA
    This survey report from Pew gives the breakdown of opinions about police by race, age, and party affiliation. Notably, blacks tend to have a lower opinion of police (in terms of appropriate use of force and policing themselves and racial discrimination) than whites, but whites don't actually have all that positive an opinion. I think it's clear to most everyone that the police can often get away with serious misbehavior.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    I think it’s clear to most everyone that the police can often get away with serious misbehavior.

    “Most everyone’ would be about 30% of those surveyed.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Art Deco

    On the first page, there is a question about how well the police do at holding officers accountable when misconduct occurs. The possible answers are excellent, good, only fair, or poor. 36% of the total population said poor, and 29% said only fair. That's more than half the population who thinks the police don't do a good job of holding officers accountable for misconduct.

    It's a pity that the protests and media circus are focused on the racial issues, because I suspect the goal of getting fewer black guys shot or beaten up by the cops would be accomplished much more easily by focusing on the need for independent investigations and prosecutions of police misconduct. Like a lot of other social issues, the actual solutions are kinda boring and unsexy and not very good at getting lots of low-information people out into the streets protesting.

  53. rich black folks reinforce the idea that blue collar work is inherently demeaning by hiring white folks as underlings, i.e. hiring white folks as their chauffeurs, nannies, and servants.

    There might be 400,000 people in this country who would qualify as ‘black upper class’, depending on what your boundary conditions. How many did you know so well that you knew what sort of domestic help they hired? And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    • Replies: @peterike
    @Art Deco

    And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    Where the hell do you live? In elite power cities chauffeured automobiles are everywhere.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @The Practical Conservative
    @Art Deco

    I've seen non-disabled folks with chauffeurs. Lebanese men, though.

    And hilariously (to me anyway), I am black, our household income is top 5%, and we have nannies and house cleaners, but they are not consistently white (weirdly they are often mixed-race actually). But we end up with (American born, non-immigrant) whites doing those domestic things for us 3 times out of 5 mainly because those sorts of whites are overwhelmingly the ones who will work legally and accept proper tax and employment regulations.

    , @slumber_j
    @Art Deco

    Plenty of people in NYC have drivers. Weirdly, it's way more common here than in LA.

    , @CJ
    @Art Deco

    And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer [sic] at any time since 1933?

    The president of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute is chauffeured around campus in an Audi A8.

    Behind RPI's Highly Paid Chief, Tales of an Imperial Air and Cowed Staff

  54. The NYT wrote:

    Mr. Obama’s response to Ferguson, Staten Island and the unrest across the country

    Interesting how it is “Staten Island” and not “New York”.

    • Replies: @JerryC
    @FactsAreImportant

    Good catch! Already otherizing one of the five Boroughs.

  55. Mr. Obama told the group that change is “hard and incremental,” a participant said, while reminding them that he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.

    Jaw. Drop.

    Mistaken for a waiter. And a parking valet. Once??? This is his story of horrible racism?

    I have been mistaken for a waiter more than once. And I have been mistaken for someone who works in a grocery store /drug store / hardware store dozens of times.

    So … I must be black.

  56. Just saw on Yahoo that William and Kate met Jay-Z and Beyoncé. This after meeting the black president, the black NYC First Lady at a school in Harlem and attending an NBA game. Has to be deliberate that they are doing this black black blackety black tour. Hope it turns white America against them; their popularity in the US is embarrassing.

    • Replies: @Patrick in SC
    @Hersh

    UK royalty meeting our de facto "royalty," followed by ritual ablution at a black school in Harlem.

  57. @FactsAreImportant
    The NYT wrote:

    Mr. Obama’s response to Ferguson, Staten Island and the unrest across the country
     
    Interesting how it is "Staten Island" and not "New York".

    Replies: @JerryC

    Good catch! Already otherizing one of the five Boroughs.

  58. @FredR
    A classic 'Pull the Tregroes, Negroes" scenario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NafrFdBXfrk

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    Nice blast from the past.

    For folks who need a little background

    Sacrilege #6: JOAN BAEZ …

    http://illfolks.blogspot.com/2007/06/sacrilege-6-joan-baez-pull-triggers.html

    Here’s Joan protesting in 1965 (James Baldwin with the barefoot Baez) and in 2005 (re. the execution of “reformed” ex-crip Tookie Williams). But in 1972 the National Lampoon protested her, via parody.

    Oh, the sacrilege!

    How could they fug with such a well-meaning folkie?

    First thing they had to do was avoid using the inflammatory title “Pull the Triggers, NXXXXXX.” They didn’t need no stinkin’ Sharpton to tell ’em not to be that rude. The Lampoon’s “Radio Dinner” song was punningly if not cunningly titled “Pull the Tregroes.” But the N-word was sung on that black vinyl of black humor.

    Written by Tony “Going too Far” Hendra, and performed by a Baez soundalike named Diana Reed, the song references George Jackson. In 1970 Jackson and two other inmates killed a prison guard. As one of the “Soledad Brothers” he wrote a few books and joined rivals Eldridge Cleaver and Black Panther Huey Newton as a pet of white liberals, the kind who condoned violence as long as it was “just across the bay.”
    Liberals with the same perceived Baez bias against law enforcement probably admired Jackson’s brother, who later in 1970 stormed into a Marin County courtroom and seized Judge Harold Haley as a hostage. Haley’s face was blown off during the getaway, and Jackson was killed as well.

    In 1971, after receiving a gun smuggled to him by a well-meaning white guy, George Jackson shot prison guard Jere Graham in the head, execution-style, exclaiming, “Let’s see if this works.” Two more guards as well as two white prisoners bled to death before Jackson was gunned down and the prison riot brought under control.

    While it was actually Joan’s ex-boyfriend Bob Dylan who came out of protest-song retirement to release a single called “George Jackson,” the Lampoon gang mocked Baez instead.
    The mock Joan sings: “Just because I can’t be there doesn’t mean I don’t care. So next time, Brother, off a pig for me.” The chorus: “Pull the triggers, xxxxxxx, we’re with you all the way, just across the bay.”

    Later in the song Joan is crucified for being sanctimonious (“I’m the world’s Madonna…I’m needed from Belfast to Bangladesh”). She confesses to trying to right “grievous wrongs” by writing “tedious songs.” All these years later, Joan Baez is still singing her heart out, and sometimes wearing it on her sleeve.

    Pull the trigger on this download.

    Later parodied by National Lampoon in their show Lemmings as

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lampoon_Lemmings

  59. Some people run around thinking everything is right with the world just because they have a good family good job and a fulfilling life. These jerks wouldn’t be so content if they were shot

  60. @The most deplorable one
    Not to mention lighter fluid:

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/09/she-couldnt-breathe-the-brutal-murder-of-19-year-old-jessica-lane-chambers-with-video/

    Replies: @Hard Line Realist

    Would that be a case of Mississippi Burning?

    I think Obama wants to be remembered for creating a race war.

  61. Mr. Obama told … them that he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.”

    What, he’s really not a waiter or a parking schlep?

  62. @OsRazor
    OT: The recent dismissal of conspiracy to murder charges against Shrien Dewani in South Africa has got to be one of the more perfect convergences of crazy. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-29914835

    1. Indian and international homosexual living in Britain (Shrien) is pressured into an arranged marriage with an educated Indian girl living in Sweden (Anni) by his wealthy parents.

    2. Anni's wealthy parents throw a $300k wedding for their daughter in India, the home country, no doubt to impress their kin.

    3. The couple go to S. Africa for their honeymoon, where they are carjacked and Anni is murdered (and God knows what else) by three blacks.

    4. Hotel video and other records show Shrien meeting with one of the blacks repeatedly before the murder.

    5. The three blacks are convicted or otherwise plead and the big trial takes place to convict Shrien for conspiring to get rid of Anni because the whole marriage thing rather repulses him. "I tried mom and dad . . . but my wife got butchered. Give me a little space . . . for maybe thirty or so years and I'll try again. I promise."

    6. The prosecution is addled by three low-IQ impaired blacks whose inability to articulate and explain what they'd done to Anni and with Shrien enrages and confuses the judge and endangers the case. When the prosecution tries to introduce evidence via a German gay prostitute ("The Master") that Shrien wanted to get rid of his wife to continue his pursuit of boot-licking and being "used" at gay orgies, the (female, white) judge is mortified that any such inclination on Shrien's part can have any relevance to the supposed conspiracy to murder.

    7. The judge dismisses the case for lack of evidence.

    8. Shrien's family throws a big bash for his defense team to celebrate this sound exercise of justice and presumably is out looking for another bride for their charming son.

    The insanity is world-wide. First, why are these Indians in Europe--who needs them--don't we have enough of our own freaks? Next because Whites refuse to accept that blacks are intellectually limited, without hard, objective forensic evidence, you'll have all sorts of horrors happening in the criminal justice system when you rely on blacks to explain themselves, the world, anything. Had the forensic evidence of Brown's assault and subsequent bull-rush of Wilson been absent, Wilson would have been tried for murder. Zimmerman would have been convicted and in jail.

    Finally, most important, gay PC protocol seems to be moving up and up to triumph all other interests--something as obvious as a gay man from a traditional Indian world desperate to be rid of his meddlesome wife cannot be explored because being gay has nothing to do with . . . anything. It's irrelevant. It's the absolute no-notice zone.

    Replies: @fnn

    I can’t wait for the movie.

  63. @Art Deco
    rich black folks reinforce the idea that blue collar work is inherently demeaning by hiring white folks as underlings, i.e. hiring white folks as their chauffeurs, nannies, and servants.

    There might be 400,000 people in this country who would qualify as 'black upper class', depending on what your boundary conditions. How many did you know so well that you knew what sort of domestic help they hired? And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    Replies: @peterike, @The Practical Conservative, @slumber_j, @CJ

    And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    Where the hell do you live? In elite power cities chauffeured automobiles are everywhere.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @peterike

    What's an 'elite power city'?

    Replies: @peterike

  64. People are constantly mistaking me for a liberal, due to what I look like and what I do.

    Boy, are they surprised when I start to talk…

  65. Let’s review. In order of decreasing significance:

    1) Climate change is happening. 2014 is on track to be the warmest year ever. 14 of the 15 warmest years have been this century. Ocean level rise as small as one foot displaces hundreds of millions of people. Changing weather patterns threaten world-wide food production.

    2) Peak oil had been delayed a few years through non-conventional sources, but a decline in liquid fuel is inevitable by 2020. Economies that depend on growth will falter and then cease to function.

    3) There is a failed state in the Near East with nuclear weapons, it’s own stressed economy and xenophobic leaders. I dare not speak its name.

    4) The dollar is the reserve currency for historical reasons, and may remain so for a few years more, but it is propped up now only by military force and tight oil production, both of which become less productive each passing year.

    5) ………55)

    56) College football is beset with scandal

    57) ……..191)

    192) Negroes in this country are angry because they still get prosecuted for rape and murder.

    What does Obama talk about? Race.

    Ergo, failed president.

  66. @peterike
    @Art Deco

    And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    Where the hell do you live? In elite power cities chauffeured automobiles are everywhere.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    What’s an ‘elite power city’?

    • Replies: @peterike
    @Art Deco

    What’s an ‘elite power city’?

    New York, San Francisco, LA, DC, Chicago, Boston.

  67. I don’t see how riots and shootings are not in the interest of Black leaders and voters. It has worked every time before: Blacks get more concessions, more set asides, more legal privileges, government INCREASES to monitor and control WHITES (not Blacks who are ceded a Road Warrior Thunderdome lawless environment see most urban Black areas) and guys like Sharpton get big cushy gigs exempt from taxes while Obama gets elected President.

    Nor would I discount Sharpton. With Black voters on angry near-riot mode at best, any chances for Hillary in the Primaries has gone up with the Kwik-Mart. Sharpton could very well replay the Obama 2007 playbook and capture the nomination — in Seattle and Berkeley not exactly Black hangouts the protesters are mostly young Whites as in LA.

    This is a message of domination. Of control. Of power. It has worked exceedingly well. There is no one in the conservative side offering a counter-message of power and domination: Weeping Johnny is hurrying to shovel money to illegal aliens crossing the border. Republicans have just given up opposing Obama’s Amnesty. [Out of the Watts, Detroit, LA Rodney King, and Crown Heights riots, only the latter two seem to have been a mixed bag — the LA Rodney King helping to elect both Clinton and Riordan; and Crown Heights making Al Sharpton a national figure eclipsing Jessie Jackson while electing Guiliani.]

    Enough riots and violence and Obama can simply issue executive orders on all sorts of things. Impacting Whites not Blacks on the negative side. And lets not forget — riots and violence will help stir turnout for a “really Radical Black Man” like Sharpton in 2016.

    Given that the Democratic Coalition in Steve’s words are a bunch of fringes, it is vital to get those fringes really, really mad plus offer them a “new” candidate speaking to their anger to boost turnout. Black voters are the core of the Democratic Coalition so its not outside the bounds of probability to see a President Sharpton in 2017 taking the oath of office if Republicans run Mitt or Jeb.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Whiskey

    Sharpton could very well replay the Obama 2007 playbook and capture the nomination — in Seattle and Berkeley not exactly Black hangouts the protesters are mostly young Whites as in LA.

    Put the bong down.

  68. @Art Deco
    rich black folks reinforce the idea that blue collar work is inherently demeaning by hiring white folks as underlings, i.e. hiring white folks as their chauffeurs, nannies, and servants.

    There might be 400,000 people in this country who would qualify as 'black upper class', depending on what your boundary conditions. How many did you know so well that you knew what sort of domestic help they hired? And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    Replies: @peterike, @The Practical Conservative, @slumber_j, @CJ

    I’ve seen non-disabled folks with chauffeurs. Lebanese men, though.

    And hilariously (to me anyway), I am black, our household income is top 5%, and we have nannies and house cleaners, but they are not consistently white (weirdly they are often mixed-race actually). But we end up with (American born, non-immigrant) whites doing those domestic things for us 3 times out of 5 mainly because those sorts of whites are overwhelmingly the ones who will work legally and accept proper tax and employment regulations.

  69. Footage of Obama being mistaken for a valet discovered:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    Footage of Obama being mistaken for a valet discovered:

     

    No chance of that. Valets lift things.
  70. @Anon
    Footage of Obama being mistaken for a valet discovered:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7flZEDMT6I

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Footage of Obama being mistaken for a valet discovered:

    No chance of that. Valets lift things.

  71. I am completely behind the grand jury’s decision on dismissing the charges in the Mike Brown case, and in agreement that it was a manufactured outrage and that the rioting and violence is unacceptable.

    But I’m a little baffled by the outcome in the case of Garner. How exactly could the officers in the case have been found faultless? I’m not talking about this as a racial issue at all but in terms of the [very bad] precedent it sets on the conduct of police officers.

    • Replies: @Hersh
    @Vendetta

    Vendetta,
    Do you think you saw the cop choke Garner to death? That's what I hear from the media on all sides, conservative and liberal, Fox News and MSNBC, etc. They think they SAW a man die in that video. Its factually incorrect. Garner died an hour later in the hospital.

    The grand jury saw 3 videos, one that's 7 minutes long and shows Garner after release from the "hold" (which is NOT very clear in any of the videos as to where the cop's arm was). Garner is breathing and can talk.

    The truth must be that the grand jury did not believe the medical examiner that the cop caused Garner's death. Just not what they saw with their own eyes: very obese man (who has asthma, bad heart, high blood pressure) in distress after physical altercation. If there was a trial, the defense would put on experts who would tell jury medical examiner is off base.

  72. “When a black man expressed his ‘rage,’ Eric Hoffer shot back, ‘Mister, it is easy to be full of rage. It is not easy to go out and build something.” — Thomas Sowell

  73. @Hersh
    Just saw on Yahoo that William and Kate met Jay-Z and Beyoncé. This after meeting the black president, the black NYC First Lady at a school in Harlem and attending an NBA game. Has to be deliberate that they are doing this black black blackety black tour. Hope it turns white America against them; their popularity in the US is embarrassing.

    Replies: @Patrick in SC

    UK royalty meeting our de facto “royalty,” followed by ritual ablution at a black school in Harlem.

  74. I suspect Obama has simply mismanaged the situation, as is his wont. Sure, the current situation started with an effort to goose black turnout for the 2014 election. But the Obama administration’s ideological proclivities have lead them down a dead end. They lose if they continue, and they lose if they abandon the course they’ve set out on.

    This is playing out as OWS did, only more destructively. The progressives thought they could ride that movement as an expression of class warfare. The problem is the public got fed up with protests and riots pretty quickly. Once that happened OWS was dropped by the establishment party.

    The amusing thing is that OWS was almost entirely an own goal. The protests were in Democratic-controlled cities–New York, LA, Portland, Davis–so the rest of the nation saw the protests as evidence that the Democrats couldn’t provide public order, and in fact encouraged street violence. Once the Democratic establishment decided they had enough and cracked down, it convinced the left wing that the establishment were a bunch of fascists. The Democrats lost on both ends, and conservatives were simply bystanders who happened to benefit.

    I suspect the same thing is happening with the current unrest. The whites and Latinos are unlikely to be enthusiastic about getting on board with the party of black riots. The unrest is primarily happening in urban Democratic strongholds, and the obvious question for the taxpaying class is “why am I voting for the politicians who can’t keep the roads clear of protestors when I’m driving to work?” And the crackdown, when it comes, will fall at the feet of politicians like Nixon, Cuomo and De Blasio.

  75. @Art Deco
    rich black folks reinforce the idea that blue collar work is inherently demeaning by hiring white folks as underlings, i.e. hiring white folks as their chauffeurs, nannies, and servants.

    There might be 400,000 people in this country who would qualify as 'black upper class', depending on what your boundary conditions. How many did you know so well that you knew what sort of domestic help they hired? And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    Replies: @peterike, @The Practical Conservative, @slumber_j, @CJ

    Plenty of people in NYC have drivers. Weirdly, it’s way more common here than in LA.

  76. @Art Deco
    @David In TN

    Kind of a stupid thing to say, Dave.

    Replies: @David In TN

    Still more juvenile language on serious subjects.

  77. Valerie Jarrett has quite a hatred of Whitey even though judging by her phenotype she is definitely not 80 percent Sub Saharan African like the average Black American. She certainly has more Caucasian admixture in her family tree than most African Americans. She is a High Yella like the late Lena Horne.

  78. Some White House advisers say it is imperative for President Obama to address racial conflict during his final two years in office.

    He’s not only incessantly addressed racial conflict since he’s been in office, he’s stoked racial conflict.

    …he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.

    I once was mistaken for a retail clerk.

  79. @Whiskey
    I don't see how riots and shootings are not in the interest of Black leaders and voters. It has worked every time before: Blacks get more concessions, more set asides, more legal privileges, government INCREASES to monitor and control WHITES (not Blacks who are ceded a Road Warrior Thunderdome lawless environment see most urban Black areas) and guys like Sharpton get big cushy gigs exempt from taxes while Obama gets elected President.

    Nor would I discount Sharpton. With Black voters on angry near-riot mode at best, any chances for Hillary in the Primaries has gone up with the Kwik-Mart. Sharpton could very well replay the Obama 2007 playbook and capture the nomination -- in Seattle and Berkeley not exactly Black hangouts the protesters are mostly young Whites as in LA.

    This is a message of domination. Of control. Of power. It has worked exceedingly well. There is no one in the conservative side offering a counter-message of power and domination: Weeping Johnny is hurrying to shovel money to illegal aliens crossing the border. Republicans have just given up opposing Obama's Amnesty. [Out of the Watts, Detroit, LA Rodney King, and Crown Heights riots, only the latter two seem to have been a mixed bag -- the LA Rodney King helping to elect both Clinton and Riordan; and Crown Heights making Al Sharpton a national figure eclipsing Jessie Jackson while electing Guiliani.]

    Enough riots and violence and Obama can simply issue executive orders on all sorts of things. Impacting Whites not Blacks on the negative side. And lets not forget -- riots and violence will help stir turnout for a "really Radical Black Man" like Sharpton in 2016.

    Given that the Democratic Coalition in Steve's words are a bunch of fringes, it is vital to get those fringes really, really mad plus offer them a "new" candidate speaking to their anger to boost turnout. Black voters are the core of the Democratic Coalition so its not outside the bounds of probability to see a President Sharpton in 2017 taking the oath of office if Republicans run Mitt or Jeb.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Sharpton could very well replay the Obama 2007 playbook and capture the nomination — in Seattle and Berkeley not exactly Black hangouts the protesters are mostly young Whites as in LA.

    Put the bong down.

  80. Does this mean the number of felons in the NHL will substantially increase?

    P. K. Subban

  81. @Art Deco
    rich black folks reinforce the idea that blue collar work is inherently demeaning by hiring white folks as underlings, i.e. hiring white folks as their chauffeurs, nannies, and servants.

    There might be 400,000 people in this country who would qualify as 'black upper class', depending on what your boundary conditions. How many did you know so well that you knew what sort of domestic help they hired? And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer at any time since 1933?

    Replies: @peterike, @The Practical Conservative, @slumber_j, @CJ

    And when has anyone seen a non-disabled person with a chauffer [sic] at any time since 1933?

    The president of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute is chauffeured around campus in an Audi A8.

    Behind RPI’s Highly Paid Chief, Tales of an Imperial Air and Cowed Staff

  82. When the US Post Office holds a public vote for the Sharpton commemorative stamp, I, for one, am voting for the young fat one and not the old thin one.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Ben Franklin

    Indeed.

  83. It is interesting that vdare changes its anti immigrant line when there are black people doing something. Why is Apu even in this country? The rule of law completely collapsed under the Bush II years. Since the lawlessness was top down it did not involve petty street rioting.

    No change, idiot.

    The position of those who support the enforcement of immigration laws do not ever promote the idea that anyone here legal or otherwise should be assaulted or robbed by thugs and have their property destroyed. Also, those who want immigration laws enforced complained about Bush as well, idiot.

  84. Looks like Obama may be planning to become a community organizer after his presidency.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
    @Luke Lea

    Yeah, I think that's part of it too. Obama aims to be a factor after the election, and an energized black demographic base that he can claim to speak for would be a powerful factor in Democratic party politics.

    It's incredibly destructive in the long run--one ethnic grievances start getting stoked it's very hard to tone that back down. Not that I think Obama worries about the integrity of institutions or anything.

    Replies: @Hersh

  85. “Art Deco says:

    On his best day, he could get a third of the vote in a Democratic Party primary in New York City (running against a red haze denizen from the Upper West Side) jonesing for the privilege of being dispatched by Rudolph Giuliani. That was half-a-generation ago. He’s 60. His best days are not ahead of him.”

    And that was a lot better than Thomas Sowell could ever hope to do among blacks (he might do pretty well among whites). Sharpton is viewed as a leader of the black community (whatever that really means) because he is one. He asserts that he is, the press treats him like he is, and if most blacks don’t like it, they don’t seem to bother to register the fact. He makes it a fact by acting as were it so.

  86. “NOTA says:

    I don’t think he’s ever been elected to anything, and it’s hard to imagine anyone choosing him as their spokesman.”

    He chose himself as a leader, and black people don’t seem to object. Ergo, he has become one.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @Mr. Anon

    By that logic, Sean Hannity is my spokesman, I guess. Or maybe some televangelist. But in reality, those are people chosen by media companies to speak on behalf of people like me, in the pursuit of the media companies' goals, which definitely aren't mine. Similarly, Sharpton gets on TV for reasons that have a lot to do with the media companies' agendas, and probably not a hell of a lot to do with how well he represents blacks or anyone else.

    This is a common feature of our world. One pretty effective way to co-opt or shut down an inconvenient political or social movement is to have the prestige media companies choose its spokesmen and put them on TV to tell the world what that movement thinks.

  87. “Art Deco says:

    “”I think it’s clear to most everyone that the police can often get away with serious misbehavior.””

    “Most everyone’ would be about 30% of those surveyed.”

    Is that the kind of specious reasoning that passes for your ostensibly sophisticated understanding of statistics?

    NOTA didn’t say most people believe that the police do often get away with serious misbehavior – he said most people believe that they can.

  88. @Luke Lea
    Looks like Obama may be planning to become a community organizer after his presidency.

    Replies: @Boomstick

    Yeah, I think that’s part of it too. Obama aims to be a factor after the election, and an energized black demographic base that he can claim to speak for would be a powerful factor in Democratic party politics.

    It’s incredibly destructive in the long run–one ethnic grievances start getting stoked it’s very hard to tone that back down. Not that I think Obama worries about the integrity of institutions or anything.

    • Replies: @Hersh
    @Boomstick

    "Obama aims to be a factor after the election, and an energized black demographic base that he can claim to speak for would be a powerful factor in Democratic party politics."

    So, the Democratic presidential primaries will be all about pandering to blacks. I don't see how the Democrats stop him, either. He'll just keep going around giving speeches about racism and he'll fold his executive amnesty in to the speeches.

  89. But I’m a little baffled by the outcome in the case of Garner. How exactly could the officers in the case have been found faultless?

    They tried to arrest somebody. He resisted arrest. In the course of resisting arrest he had a heart attack and died. That’s regrettable, but it’s hard to see how it is the officers “fault”. If he’d allowed them to handcuff him and take him back to the precinct he’d be alive today.

  90. Where the hell do you live? In elite power cities chauffeured automobiles are everywhere.

    Are you sure you’re not thinking of taxis?

    • Replies: @peterike
    @Greenstalk

    Are you sure you’re not thinking of taxis?

    No. But to be fair, the term "chauffeur" can be various things. One might better say "driver." A chauffeur calls to mind someone from Downton Abbey who lives with the rich people and is available 24 x 7. I'm sure people have those, but more likely is just a regular driver.

    A really rich person doesn't call up Joe's Limo and get just anybody to drive him. They will have a regular driver because these drivers often serve various other roles (procuring, protection). A lot of cops and ex-cops take on these rolls. I knew the cop who used to drive around the owner of a NY sports team, part time. The owner loved it because he had extra access to things because his driver could flash a badge, to say nothing of carrying a gun for protection.

    Hell, even Mr. Big on "Sex and the City" has a regular driver. These drivers can easily make upwards of $100,000 a year, though it's a tough job in terms of hours and availability. And I can imagine it's not fun if you're the driver for, say, some Russian oligarchs wife or some screeching billionaire yenta.

    But c'mon people, the really rich don't take taxis! Gimme a break.

  91. The social snobbery of the left never ceases to astound me. So Obama is offended he was once mistaken for a waiter and a parking valet, as if these are somehow shameful things to be. Waiters and parking valets work hard. Harder than Obama has ever worked.

  92. @Ben Franklin
    When the US Post Office holds a public vote for the Sharpton commemorative stamp, I, for one, am voting for the young fat one and not the old thin one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Indeed.

  93. @Art Deco
    @peterike

    What's an 'elite power city'?

    Replies: @peterike

    What’s an ‘elite power city’?

    New York, San Francisco, LA, DC, Chicago, Boston.

  94. @Vendetta
    I am completely behind the grand jury's decision on dismissing the charges in the Mike Brown case, and in agreement that it was a manufactured outrage and that the rioting and violence is unacceptable.

    But I'm a little baffled by the outcome in the case of Garner. How exactly could the officers in the case have been found faultless? I'm not talking about this as a racial issue at all but in terms of the [very bad] precedent it sets on the conduct of police officers.

    Replies: @Hersh

    Vendetta,
    Do you think you saw the cop choke Garner to death? That’s what I hear from the media on all sides, conservative and liberal, Fox News and MSNBC, etc. They think they SAW a man die in that video. Its factually incorrect. Garner died an hour later in the hospital.

    The grand jury saw 3 videos, one that’s 7 minutes long and shows Garner after release from the “hold” (which is NOT very clear in any of the videos as to where the cop’s arm was). Garner is breathing and can talk.

    The truth must be that the grand jury did not believe the medical examiner that the cop caused Garner’s death. Just not what they saw with their own eyes: very obese man (who has asthma, bad heart, high blood pressure) in distress after physical altercation. If there was a trial, the defense would put on experts who would tell jury medical examiner is off base.

  95. @Greenstalk
    Where the hell do you live? In elite power cities chauffeured automobiles are everywhere.

    Are you sure you're not thinking of taxis?

    Replies: @peterike

    Are you sure you’re not thinking of taxis?

    No. But to be fair, the term “chauffeur” can be various things. One might better say “driver.” A chauffeur calls to mind someone from Downton Abbey who lives with the rich people and is available 24 x 7. I’m sure people have those, but more likely is just a regular driver.

    A really rich person doesn’t call up Joe’s Limo and get just anybody to drive him. They will have a regular driver because these drivers often serve various other roles (procuring, protection). A lot of cops and ex-cops take on these rolls. I knew the cop who used to drive around the owner of a NY sports team, part time. The owner loved it because he had extra access to things because his driver could flash a badge, to say nothing of carrying a gun for protection.

    Hell, even Mr. Big on “Sex and the City” has a regular driver. These drivers can easily make upwards of $100,000 a year, though it’s a tough job in terms of hours and availability. And I can imagine it’s not fun if you’re the driver for, say, some Russian oligarchs wife or some screeching billionaire yenta.

    But c’mon people, the really rich don’t take taxis! Gimme a break.

  96. At least this teachable moment has led to some awesome Social Justice themed songs by melodic-hardcore bands like Stick To Your Guns! I’m glad these Stale Pale Males were inspired by Obama’s message to keep the pressure on.

    Modern day John Lennons, all of them <3.

    http://substreammagazine.com/2014/12/watch-stick-to-your-guns-what-choice-did-you-give-us/

  97. I think this has already been mentioned here, but the recent shooting of a knife-wielding black man by a white police officer in a NYC synagogue, is a good example of how the media instantly racializes news to support the narrative of white on black police brutality.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dramatic-video-shows-cop-shooting-stabbing-suspect-in-nyc-synagogue/

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/09/us/new-york-synagogue-stabbing/

    –Oh wait a second, in most of the reporting on this so far, you actually have to watch the video of the incident to see that the assailant was black and the police were white (including a large blond guy not unlike Darren Wilson). The guy who was shot, apparently had already wounded a rabbinical student who escaped before the police arrived. The assailant was shot later on when he lunged at a police officer with a knife, not reaching for a gun. If you think about it, the fact that the assailant was holding a knife, actually meant that his dominant hand was already occupied and he was less likely to have drawn a pistol even if he had had one. And why was an unarmored police officer standing close enough to risk being stabbed? I don’t expect the NYPD to be expert fencers who can parry a knife to the floor, but don’t they have knife-proof riot shields that they can use in these types of situations? Or, are all those being used out on Staten Island? One of those face shields would have been useful too. And what about Tasers? A possible heart attack is better than a guaranteed sucking chest-wound. At the very least, a Taser would have left less of a stain on the floor.

    Again, was this really a case of justifiable homicide? And if not, why aren’t the media all over this, selling it as another data point in the white police/black bodies holiday meme that they keep on regifting the public? Of course there’s a complicating factor here because the shooting was at a synagogue. But if you watch the longer version of the video, you can clearly hear some of the people there telling the police not to shoot. They weren’t very successful in deescalating the situation, yelling at the man to drop the knife, but then again someone had already been attacked and the deranged man kept on making threats. So if you don’t buy into the “snitches get stiches” logic, Jewish people and more specifically the members of that synagogue, shouldn’t be worried that they’ll be specifically blamed for this black man’s death. And yet, at a time when we’re being coached by the media to question even the very concept of a white police officer enforcing the law when a black person is the one breaking it, the media skirts around the very same racial angle that they’ve hyperventilated over in other cases.

    For consistency’s sake, they should have reported the offical races of the people involved, including that of the antisemitic assailant. Then they should have examined how this sort of thing might have been prevented and whether there are better ways that the police, of whatever race, can handle situations where someone has a knife but no gun. For a relevant starting point, they could have compared the details of this case with those from another recent case where the police shot a mentally unstable knife-wielding man in St. Louis, just a few months ago. Because the police in that case were white and the man with the knife was black, the media at the time, were mostly interested in a racial angle to the story and how they could use that to stoke the flames in Ferguson. Maybe, just maybe, if they had paid more attention to the the actual scenario in which the deranged person was shot, and had raised some legitimate questions for the police to think about, someone in the NYPD would have heard about it, and the police wouldn’t have had to shoot this man because they would have been able to restrain him using other means. That would have saved a black body and plenty of white ones too.

  98. @I am anonymous
    All these people, starting with the president on down, are what's known as lifelong 'grievance collectors', people who collect every single insult, slight, micro-aggression or imaginings of such since childhood and carry it around with them in their own personal gunny sack. They trot it out constantly for effect at the right moment. He was once mistaken for a waiter and then a parking valet? People were supposed to know automatically that he was royalty even on those days he wasn't wearing his purple robes? I've also been mistaken for a mere servant a few times and also stopped by the cops who thought I looked like someone else. These 'gunny sackers' make a big show out of their hurt feelings then follow on with a public forgiveness of those who have sinned against them, making themselves seem even nobler, the sinners being admonished to now make restitution.
    Meanwhile, in the real world, every single white person I've known has had bad experiences with blacks: harassed, cursed at, assaulted, raped, mugged, stolen from, aggressed against, problematic employees, you name it. I knew one person murdered by blacks in front of his girlfriend. Begic? Whoozat? They are totally self-absorbed and are intrinsically incapable of any empathy that extends beyond tribalism. People have to quit projecting their own mentality upon other groups that evolved along different lines. Their thinking boils down to me me me. They've got a couple more years to indulge in what really interests them, which is themselves.

    Replies: @Another Canadian

    All these people, starting with the president on down, are what’s known as lifelong ‘grievance collectors’, people who collect every single insult, slight, micro-aggression or imaginings of such since childhood and carry it around with them in their own personal gunny sack. They trot it out constantly for effect at the right moment.

    You said a mouthful there. I believe everyone knows someone like this and the best thing you can do is get them out of your life.

  99. Er, point I was trying to make is that Sharpton has held on to the spotlight as a black media figure only because he has so little talented competition.

    I can’t think of anyone who comes close besides O himself. Jesse Jackson has semi-retired. His son left politics and media due to mental health issues and legal problems. There’s that Dyson guy at Georgetown, and Ta-Nehisi Coates. Also this guy, Marc Lamont Hill, who can’t possibly have an IQ over 95:

  100. “For Rasheen Aldridge Jr., 20, a community organizer from St. Louis who attended the meeting”

    Let’s run that again. A TWENTY YEAR OLD community organizer. Twenty?? Really? Seriously?

    Even Obama didn’t get a head start on his Chicago gig til he was about 24. As he is a jr., its possible that he has two parents (or at least knew his biological father who may or may not be divorced). Unless this person turns out to be the offspring of a city council or a local politico among the Community, a twenty yr. old community organizer is pretty amazing.

    One of the Democrats’ future prospects coming up thru the ranks. Minor league AAA, get invited to the White House at age 20 before serving on city council (representing a community district) at age 22. Age 24-27, on the staff of a state senator before making a first run at Congress. So he’ll be in the bigs by age 28 or so. Perhaps he’ll get invited to speak at the Democrats ’16 National Convention as a reminder that “In this day of ‘hands up, don’t shoot’, the events of Ferguson has taught this nation that we still have a ways to go as well as more work to be done in the area of race relations.”

    Yup. A potential Democratic future prospect.

  101. All these people, starting with the president on down, are what’s known as lifelong ‘grievance collectors’, people who collect every single insult, slight, micro-aggression or imaginings of such since childhood and carry it around with them in their own personal gunny sack.

    “Personal Gunny Sack” could be the black version of Invisible Backpack for whites.

    I can well imagine but not print the racial slurs they would utter if one of their daughters showed up with a Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin or Dorian Johnson in tow as the father of their ‘baby’.

    Trayvon could have been Obama’s son, as he told us, but he sure as hell couldn’t be Obama’s son-in-law.

  102. When the US Post Office holds a public vote for the Sharpton commemorative stamp, I, for one, am voting for the young fat one and not the old thin one.

    Old, thin Al Sharpton looks like Juan Williams’ dad. Very similar faces.

  103. – I, for one, think that you make many good points, although I could do without the accompanying ‘I’m the only one who gets it’ tirades. I agree that, regarding immigration, the leaders of the Republican Party do not repeatedly act in diametric opposition to the express wishes of the vast majority of their constituents because they think it’s a savvy political career move. It’s clearly all about the Benjamins. Boehner and his ilk have been bought and paid for, and not by us. Hey, those beach house renovations don’t pay for themselves. However, you have lost me with whites feeling increased guilt due to black rioting. Several emotions come into play – anger at opportunistic theft and wanton destruction masquerading as angry young man statement-making, and sympathy for the poor sods who’ve busted their humps for years to grow a business, just to see it go up in flames chief among them- but not guilt.

    – I seriously doubt that the royal couple had much to do with the decidedly dusky itinerary laid out for them, thus far. The hand of Ms. McCray is evident. They were probably given a synopsis of the current lay of the political land in NYC and so were prepared, but William and Kate go with the flow, smiling and waving their way through their charmed lives, no matter where they are.

  104. Actually, in terms of actually pushing through legislation wholly favorable to black people (at the expense of white people), Lydon Johnson outclasses Obama in every single respect.

    Seriously, the Voting Rights Act, Affirmative Action etc., etc., are all LBJ.

    All Obama does is talk. LBJ was better than that, too.

    Quite incredible if you think about it. LBJ, the White Texan President, did the job a black president wouldn’t do.

    He also landed the US in a major military quagmire, but I digress…

  105. Mr. Obama told the group that change is “hard and incremental,” a participant said, while reminding them that he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.

    Me: Bwahahahahahaha!

    There is no doubt in my mind that Obama is telling the truth when he says he was once “mistaken for a waiter and parking valet.”

    What’s hilarious is that he has no clue how weird that probably sounds to some of these youngsters he’s talking to. What do you think the chances are that anybody ever mistook Michael Brown for a parking valet, or Trayvon Martin for a waiter? I am 100 percent certain that neither one of these young men ever experienced the indignity of shopping in a store and having a fellow shopper come up and ask them if they were sales clerks.

    Steve once touched on this in an article about the show “Mad Men.” We’re supposed to notice disapprovingly that all the blacks we see on the show are in menial service jobs, but what a lot of viewers actually notice is that the black people on the show have jobs, period. It has been many years since I’ve regularly encountered black people doing any sort of menial service work — particularly jobs that require extensive contact with the general public. I imagine this must be an alien experience to a 20-year-old.

    I am cracking up thinking of the likely reaction that Michael Brown would have had if some old lady had walked up to him in a restaurant and asked if he was the waiter. Oh, that’s rich. Poor Obama just doesn’t have a clue.

  106. @Mr. Anon
    "NOTA says:

    I don’t think he’s ever been elected to anything, and it’s hard to imagine anyone choosing him as their spokesman."

    He chose himself as a leader, and black people don't seem to object. Ergo, he has become one.

    Replies: @NOTA

    By that logic, Sean Hannity is my spokesman, I guess. Or maybe some televangelist. But in reality, those are people chosen by media companies to speak on behalf of people like me, in the pursuit of the media companies’ goals, which definitely aren’t mine. Similarly, Sharpton gets on TV for reasons that have a lot to do with the media companies’ agendas, and probably not a hell of a lot to do with how well he represents blacks or anyone else.

    This is a common feature of our world. One pretty effective way to co-opt or shut down an inconvenient political or social movement is to have the prestige media companies choose its spokesmen and put them on TV to tell the world what that movement thinks.

  107. @Art Deco
    @NOTA

    I think it’s clear to most everyone that the police can often get away with serious misbehavior.

    "Most everyone' would be about 30% of those surveyed.

    Replies: @NOTA

    On the first page, there is a question about how well the police do at holding officers accountable when misconduct occurs. The possible answers are excellent, good, only fair, or poor. 36% of the total population said poor, and 29% said only fair. That’s more than half the population who thinks the police don’t do a good job of holding officers accountable for misconduct.

    It’s a pity that the protests and media circus are focused on the racial issues, because I suspect the goal of getting fewer black guys shot or beaten up by the cops would be accomplished much more easily by focusing on the need for independent investigations and prosecutions of police misconduct. Like a lot of other social issues, the actual solutions are kinda boring and unsexy and not very good at getting lots of low-information people out into the streets protesting.

  108. As an aside, I am darkly amused that the prestige media still can’t call things done by Americans war crimes or torture, even when discussing a senate report that gives details about the torture and other war crimes carried out by the CIA.

  109. Beach wrote:

    – I, for one, think that you make many good points, although I could do without the accompanying ‘I’m the only one who gets it’ tirades.

    Well, um, because I guess I am the only one who gets it. I mean, the statistical anomaly alone must say something profound about the american political situation and about humans in general. The polls show us that the idea of national healthcare is (or was) supported by large numbers of americans. I have seen polls in the 70 plus percent. Same thing goes for decreasing immigration. Same thing goes for taxing the rich more. Huge super-majorities in the polls. And huge numbers of GOP voters are against affirmative action.

    The topics I mention above are important economic topics that are core to the central questions surrounding politics in america. Yet when have you ever heard a politician supporting all these ideas? How about a journalist/pundit? How about a well known american blogger? How about even just ONE american commentator in the comment section of any site in the world?!

    Now consider all the JILLIONS of speeches, opinion articles, blogposts and comments that have been written and that touch on these subjects. Can you find one single such writing/speech that lends support to both taxing the rich and decreasing immigration? How about one such writing/speech supporting national healthcare and decreasing immigration?

    No?

    OK, then find me one politician or media pundit or well known blogger who has recent prior speeches or writings giving support to the combination of ideas I outlined just above? No? You don’t find that absence strange?

    I do. It is an amazing statistical anomaly. And this weird, completely unnoticed and unremarked division, this ideological apartheid must surely be a very important aspect of the american political infrastructure. Yet completely unnoticed.

    How about finding one single major GOP politician these days that will say anything negative about affirmative action? Very strange, given the fact that so many GOP voters are against it. And nobody notices nuttin’.

    And don’t give me that stuff about how the GOP is now becoming more Leftist etc. All that RINO B.S. Please. That’s all just nonsense. Just focus on the facts on the ground, please.

    more:
    Beach wrote:

    I agree that, regarding immigration, the leaders of the Republican Party do not repeatedly act in diametric opposition to the express wishes of the vast majority of their constituents because they think it’s a savvy political career move. It’s clearly all about the Benjamins. Boehner and his ilk have been bought and paid for, and not by us. Hey, those beach house renovations don’t pay for themselves.

    Right. So why is this knowledge and assumption not a given, not acknowledged in the foreground of every single political discussion and blogpost and article written about american politics?

    beach wrote:

    However, you have lost me with whites feeling increased guilt due to black rioting. Several emotions come into play – anger at opportunistic theft and wanton destruction masquerading as angry young man statement-making, and sympathy for the poor sods who’ve busted their humps for years to grow a business, just to see it go up in flames chief among them- but not guilt.

    I disagree. There are large numbers of white americans who are being manipulated by these riots. Don’t forget that you are off the reservation. But there are lots of young white people who are not. And don’t forget that the largest bloc of americans of voting age are NON-political. They don’t vote. And of those who do vote, the largest bloc describe themselves as independent.

    And understand that the manufacturing of consent process does not require a majority. If a sufficient number of white americans are pushed into white race guilt, that bloc can be combined with other factions to generate a voting bloc of sufficient size to allow anti-populist policies to take effect.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @leftist conservative

    One nitpick: You can get a lot of popular support for various policies in polls when you omit some of the details. Would I like a national healthcare system that made sure everyone could see a doctor when they needed to, radically reduced costs, and kept the high end of the medical system intact and available for when I might need it? Yes, sign me up. Would I like the whatever disaster of a medical care reform bill that can get through Congress? Probably not so much.

  110. NOTA says:. . . Sharpton gets on TV for reasons that have a lot to do with the media companies’ agendas, and probably not a hell of a lot to do with how well he represents blacks or anyone else.

    I agree. As we’ve all noted, whites, Asians and Hispanics don’t have an official spokesman, only blacks do. The position seems to have been created by Martin Luther King, and subsequently grabbed by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. There is a significant element of the black population that is so dysfunctional and so alienated from the societal norms that the media feels it needs to speak to it through an ambassador. But who should that ambassador be? Obviously, someone who can draw a crowd of the black underclass, demonstrating his credibility. Not Ben Carson or Herman Cain, since the types of blacks who would identify with them are too busy to go to demonstrations and are not inclined to riot and loot. No, Al Sharpton is a perfect representative of the lowest element of the black population. An authentic low-life himself, he will speak for them.

  111. @Boomstick
    @Luke Lea

    Yeah, I think that's part of it too. Obama aims to be a factor after the election, and an energized black demographic base that he can claim to speak for would be a powerful factor in Democratic party politics.

    It's incredibly destructive in the long run--one ethnic grievances start getting stoked it's very hard to tone that back down. Not that I think Obama worries about the integrity of institutions or anything.

    Replies: @Hersh

    “Obama aims to be a factor after the election, and an energized black demographic base that he can claim to speak for would be a powerful factor in Democratic party politics.”

    So, the Democratic presidential primaries will be all about pandering to blacks. I don’t see how the Democrats stop him, either. He’ll just keep going around giving speeches about racism and he’ll fold his executive amnesty in to the speeches.

  112. @691

    When they said their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”
     
    Say what you will about Obama, but he's pretty good at off-the-cuff one-liners.

    By the way, isn't it racist of these protestors to be so dismissive and disrespectful of our first black president?

    Replies: @pyrrhus

    Wait, I thought that was Clinton!?

  113. @Mr. Anon
    "Elli says:

    And I’ve been mistaken for a sales clerk. So what?

    Does Obama think he’s always had a presidential aura that only a racist would miss?

    Yes, he probably does."

    Who among us has not been mistaken for an employee while at the hardware store or some such. As you say, Obama has a massive sense of entitlement as some kind of "chosen one".

    Replies: @J1234

    “Who among us has not been mistaken for an employee while at the hardware store or some such. ”

    I went to volunteer at a soup kitchen once and was mistaken for a homeless person. I considered it a worthwhile learning experience rather than a humiliation.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @J1234

    People see what they expect to see. If you expect to be treated well by most everyone, then someone mistaking you for aa waiter or valet or hardware store employee is just a funny mistake someonee made. If you expecct a certain fraction of people to see you as less than you are because of race or sex or something, the same event fits nicely into your model, and seems to be evidence of unconsciouss racism or bias or something.

  114. @leftist conservative
    Beach wrote:

    @leftist conservative – I, for one, think that you make many good points, although I could do without the accompanying ‘I’m the only one who gets it’ tirades.

     

    Well, um, because I guess I am the only one who gets it. I mean, the statistical anomaly alone must say something profound about the american political situation and about humans in general. The polls show us that the idea of national healthcare is (or was) supported by large numbers of americans. I have seen polls in the 70 plus percent. Same thing goes for decreasing immigration. Same thing goes for taxing the rich more. Huge super-majorities in the polls. And huge numbers of GOP voters are against affirmative action.

    The topics I mention above are important economic topics that are core to the central questions surrounding politics in america. Yet when have you ever heard a politician supporting all these ideas? How about a journalist/pundit? How about a well known american blogger? How about even just ONE american commentator in the comment section of any site in the world?!

    Now consider all the JILLIONS of speeches, opinion articles, blogposts and comments that have been written and that touch on these subjects. Can you find one single such writing/speech that lends support to both taxing the rich and decreasing immigration? How about one such writing/speech supporting national healthcare and decreasing immigration?

    No?

    OK, then find me one politician or media pundit or well known blogger who has recent prior speeches or writings giving support to the combination of ideas I outlined just above? No? You don't find that absence strange?

    I do. It is an amazing statistical anomaly. And this weird, completely unnoticed and unremarked division, this ideological apartheid must surely be a very important aspect of the american political infrastructure. Yet completely unnoticed.

    How about finding one single major GOP politician these days that will say anything negative about affirmative action? Very strange, given the fact that so many GOP voters are against it. And nobody notices nuttin'.

    And don't give me that stuff about how the GOP is now becoming more Leftist etc. All that RINO B.S. Please. That's all just nonsense. Just focus on the facts on the ground, please.

    more:
    Beach wrote:

    I agree that, regarding immigration, the leaders of the Republican Party do not repeatedly act in diametric opposition to the express wishes of the vast majority of their constituents because they think it’s a savvy political career move. It’s clearly all about the Benjamins. Boehner and his ilk have been bought and paid for, and not by us. Hey, those beach house renovations don’t pay for themselves.
     
    Right. So why is this knowledge and assumption not a given, not acknowledged in the foreground of every single political discussion and blogpost and article written about american politics?


    beach wrote:


    However, you have lost me with whites feeling increased guilt due to black rioting. Several emotions come into play – anger at opportunistic theft and wanton destruction masquerading as angry young man statement-making, and sympathy for the poor sods who’ve busted their humps for years to grow a business, just to see it go up in flames chief among them- but not guilt.
     
    I disagree. There are large numbers of white americans who are being manipulated by these riots. Don't forget that you are off the reservation. But there are lots of young white people who are not. And don't forget that the largest bloc of americans of voting age are NON-political. They don't vote. And of those who do vote, the largest bloc describe themselves as independent.

    And understand that the manufacturing of consent process does not require a majority. If a sufficient number of white americans are pushed into white race guilt, that bloc can be combined with other factions to generate a voting bloc of sufficient size to allow anti-populist policies to take effect.

    Replies: @NOTA

    One nitpick: You can get a lot of popular support for various policies in polls when you omit some of the details. Would I like a national healthcare system that made sure everyone could see a doctor when they needed to, radically reduced costs, and kept the high end of the medical system intact and available for when I might need it? Yes, sign me up. Would I like the whatever disaster of a medical care reform bill that can get through Congress? Probably not so much.

  115. @J1234
    @Mr. Anon

    "Who among us has not been mistaken for an employee while at the hardware store or some such. "

    ---

    I went to volunteer at a soup kitchen once and was mistaken for a homeless person. I considered it a worthwhile learning experience rather than a humiliation.

    Replies: @NOTA

    People see what they expect to see. If you expect to be treated well by most everyone, then someone mistaking you for aa waiter or valet or hardware store employee is just a funny mistake someonee made. If you expecct a certain fraction of people to see you as less than you are because of race or sex or something, the same event fits nicely into your model, and seems to be evidence of unconsciouss racism or bias or something.

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