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Back in February 2020, the Establishment Press was mostly worrying about the pandemic in terms of how it could lead to racism against Asians by Trump supporters. Now, during the Biden Era, with blacks being caught on video perhaps a little more often than normal attacking blacks (or it could just be randomness or it could just be that blacks have been exuberantly acting out violently more than usual toward everybody all during the Racial Reckoning), they are back to worrying about how Trump is at fault.

N.B.A. Investigating After Jeremy Lin Said He Was Called ‘Coronavirus’

Lin, who is Taiwanese-American, said on social media that he had been called “coronavirus” on the court. He has been playing in the N.B.A.’s developmental league.

“Being a 9 year NBA veteran doesn’t protect me from being called ‘coronavirus’ on the court,” Lin wrote in a post on social media.

By Michael Levenson
Feb. 27, 2021, 12:05 a.m. ET

The N.B.A. G League said on Friday that it was investigating a report by Jeremy Lin, one of the best-known Asian-American players in basketball, that he had been called “coronavirus” on the court.

What race was this NBA trash-talker anyway?

Lin disclosed the slur in a Facebook post on Thursday in which he denounced the racism and discrimination faced by Asian-Americans. It was a prominent example of the rising tide of bigotry that many Asian-Americans say they have endured since last year, when former President Donald J. Trump began describing the coronavirus as the “China virus.”

Trump’s use of the term “China virus” will evidently have longer-lasting deleterious impact than even FDR’s redlining and the white supremacist Tuskegee Institute’s Tuskegee study.

… A former Harvard basketball player, Lin became a breakout sensation in the 2011-12 N.B.A. season when, as a relative unknown on the bench, he took over as a guard for the Knicks and tore through the league, prompting a wave of excitement that became known as “Linsanity.” He scored more points in his first five starts than any other player in nearly 40 years, peaking with 38 against the Los Angeles Lakers.

And then … he stopped being a sensation when his 7-game-long Hot Hand turned cold again, as I pointed in my review of Michael Lewis’s biography of Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman. Tversky was famous for “disproving” the theory of the Hot Hand in the NBA. But I watched Lin’s 38 point game and thought it highly unlikely that he could keep up his hot hand that allowed him to sink absurd shots.

In his Facebook post on Thursday, Lin, 32, pointed to a generational shift among Asian-Americans.

“We are tired of being told that we don’t experience racism, we are tired of being told to keep our heads down and not make trouble,” he wrote. “We are tired of Asian American kids growing up and being asked where they’re REALLY from, of having our eyes mocked, of being objectified as exotic or being told we’re inherently unattractive.”

Somebody, please touch my hair!

 
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  1. Will this put the changing of the NBA’s jumping man logo into Kobe Bryant in jeopardy?

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/kyrie-irving-nba-change-logo-black-kings-built-the-league

    I know what you’re thinking, how do you make a monochrome 2d logo of a man into anyone? Well maybe possibly a white guy served as it’s inspiration and therefore it’s wrong and evil. You might also ask how you turn it into Kobe Bryant but these would be codes for white supremacy.

    “Gotta Happen,” Irving wrote on his Instagram. “Idc what anyone says. BLACK KINGS BUILT THE LEAGUE.”

    Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told TMZ Sports that he’s on board with changing the NBA logo to Bryant. He said that he “would support it.”

    “I just think it’s so much more than basketball,” Cuban told TMZ. “He brought so many people together.”

    There’s a joke about the violent rape he committed and that up until his death you were free to bring up but that would be in bad taste. It’s 2021 we need to make the logo of this multi-billion dollar company into a rapist.

    • Replies: @Traveler 3468
    @Altai

    The jump man logo is by Nike, not the NBA, and features Michael Jordan's silhouette. Some people in LA want to change the silhouette on the NBA logo from Jerry West to Kobe Bryant.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    , @Truth
    @Altai


    It’s 2021 we need to make the logo of this multi-billion dollar company into a rapist.
     
    I think there would have to be two silhouettes on the logo then; and where would you put the basketball? Seems a little busy if you ask me.
  2. Was the clock at 2:30?

    • LOL: Ganderson
  3. More broadly on Jeremy Lin, I looked into his story and the only reason he got any play on the game that started ‘Linsanity’ was because so many guys were injured. Once they recovered he was largely put back on the bench. It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.

    This guy got into Harvard, I don’t know what, if anything he had to talk about with his teammates but I can’t imagine the class and race divide made him terribly popular. But this just isn’t talked about.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Altai

    Not true.

    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn't move to his left very well. For a month he was killing it. It was a sneak attack since he didn't go to a basketball school and his game was not known. If he had Tiger Woods' dad or Serena Williams' dad he would never have been allowed to progress with only one half of an offense game.

    I am all for making a rapist the symbol of the league. My favorite current basketball fact is by far the most effective current offensive play in the NBA is James Harden flopping behind the 3 point line and taking his gimme free-throw-shooting-percentage to the foul line for three free throws.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Altai, @Bragadocious, @Paperback Writer

    , @Ganderson
    @Altai

    How white is Ivy League hoops?

    , @AndrewR
    @Altai

    His tale is a real chink in the armor of the coalition of the fringes

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Altai


    It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.
     
    Which black guys? Floyd Mayweather called bullshit on Linsanity, but I never heard anyone else do the same. My guess is that the black players in the NBA were bemused and thought it was all part of the game.
    , @Anonymous
    @Altai

    I remember following the NBA actively at the time, it was truly bizarre how well he did for a while. I think it was just "right place right time." Carmelo Anthony, who never worked well with Mike D'Antoni's fast-paced philosophy, went out, and then probably as you said some other injuries happened, and then all of a sudden Jeremy Lin started doing really well in the system, basically playing as Steve Nash for a bit. (D'Antoni was Nash's coach in Phoenix)

    I think defenses smarted up to him very but he was still a pretty functional player for a while, and got a very nice contract in the offseason if i remember correctly. I bet he could play productive minutes on a team now, but he's nothing special, and in the NBA teams will give up on guys fast if they (1) aren't stars and (2) don't have the potential to become stars. It's hard to overestimate how competitive the NBA really is.

  4. CONTEXT ALERT: Before you share this content, you might want to know that fact-checking sites, Snopes.com and Associated Press have determined the following educational video ought to be included, in the interest of fortified accuracy

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Anonymous

    That's hilarious. And so sad knowing that now, just nine years later, no one would dare broadcast that.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous

    In fairness, think how many points Lin would have scored if he could open his eyes all the way.

  5. It’s not just the coronavirus. Or even America. Thirteen months ago, before the panicdemic, Berlin shut down a popular North Korean hostel:

    Berlin court rules hostel at North Korean Embassy must close

    Asians get no respect in the West. But what soul-stirring architecture!

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Reg Cæsar

    That building looks to be a clone of the old San Francisco Hilton which Norman Mailer lambasted around 1962.

    , @Muggles
    @Reg Cæsar

    A hostel in the North Korean embassy in Berlin?

    That's the answer to the question: what is the least desirable housing in Germany?

    No Dogs Allowed Outside of Kitchen!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  6. Is “Coronavirus” really an insult? It doesn’t makes sense – are they saying he’s a virus? Athletes trash talk all the time to get a psychological advantage. By mentioning this now I think Lin is admitting he won’t be able to make it back to the NBA from the G League – everyone will think he’s a crybaby now…but he wasn’t going to make it back anyway. Maybe he’s pulling a Kaepernick.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Traveler 3468

    Longtime Chicago based NFL reporter (Hub Arkush) mentioned often that one of the stipulations for sideline reporters made by the NFL is that they cannot report on what they hear on the sidelines from players unless it was in the form of a direct quote.

    It seems pretty obvious that the word "nigga" is heard often on those sidelines. The NFL averts its ears to that inconvenient truth.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Polistra
    @Traveler 3468


    Is “Coronavirus” really an insult? It doesn’t makes sense – are they saying he’s a virus? Athletes trash talk all the time
     
    Dude, dude. It's a five-syllable word. For some people that's a lot harder than sinking a three-pointer, know what I mean? Show some respect.
  7. The timing of this, though…
    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Ron Mexico


    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

     

    https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1365096349079924739

    Yugoslavia (and more broadly speaking the entire former Soviet Union) is full of Slavic hardmen.

    Home land of Ivan Drago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHNcAZYPY_E

    By the way, if you want to understand what that movie was really about, watch the above video from 0:29-1:10.

    Ivan Drago isn't meant to represent just Russia. He's also meant to represent Nazi Germany. That's why they chose the Nordic-looking Dolph Lundren to play Ivan Drago. That's also why they have him kill Black boxer Apollo Creed.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Traveler 3468

    , @Technite78
    @Ron Mexico

    I can tell you what immigrants escaping from the Yugoslavian civil war think of African-Americans.

    Not much. When I lived in San Diego I used a car service that employed mostly 30-something Serbians. They hustled their asses off to make good in the US... and fully appreciated how lucky they were to have escaped the hell of multicultural Yugoslavia. They were also shocked at how lazy and stupid African-Americans were... and they weren't the least bit intimidated by them; the Serbians considered themselves both tougher and smarter (and they were very likely correct in their assessment).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  8. “… often than normal attacking blacks” : Did you mean to say Asians here, blacks attacking Asians? Or maybe I’m missing the point.

    • Agree: Roderick Spode
  9. one of the best-known Asian-American players in basketball

    I literally can’t name any others since Yao Ming retired.

    I watched Lin’s 38 point game and thought it highly unlikely that he could keep up his hot hand that allowed him to sink absurd shots

    ESPN SportsCenter anchor Max Bretos was suspended for noticing that once his hot hand ended Lin seemed to have a chink in his armor, which is reminiscent of this clip from Scrubs. The true punchline is under the fold.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnG4aplkw4s

    [MORE]
    Bretos’ wife is Chinese

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @ScarletNumber

    Being married to an Asian woman does not de facto make one not racist against Asians. A lot of white men with Yellow Fever have this idea that they are “saving” these women from an inferior culture, and still have nothing but contempt for that culture (cough cough Derb).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Captain Tripps

  10. Michael Levenson’s next story will be on the words Taiwanese basketballers use to trash talk each other in Taiwan.

    Are there any men under 30 left in America?

  11. $15 minimum wage now!

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Yeah, and if Biden keeps on making blunders like this he may find that he "lost" the Presidency in 2024 with a 15 million vote margin rather than a 7 million margin.

    Sigh. There is no remedy for stupid.

    , @ben tillman
    @JohnnyWalker123

    David Bier is pretty smart.

  12. Anon[413] • Disclaimer says:

    “We are tired of Asian American kids growing up and being asked where they’re REALLY from, of having our eyes mocked, of being objectified as exotic or being told we’re inherently unattractive.”

    There’s definitely a male-female devide here.

    Steve on inter/intra-racial altraction:

    https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/color/articles/sailer.html

    This was before the big data analyses of dating sites:

    https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/

    Asian men are less masculine than black women, but Asian women are quite popular, as long as they are not woke.

    Let’s give Philippe Rushton the last word:

    When Bogaert and I averaged the ethnographic data on erect penis size we again found the 3-way pattern— Blacks averaged 6.25 to 8 inches in length (15.9 to 20.3 cm) and 2 inches in diameter (5.1 cm); Caucasians 5.5 to 6 inches in length (14-15.3 cm) and 1.3 to 1.6 inches in diameter (3.3-4.1 cm); and East Asians averaged 4 to 5.5 inches in length (10-14 cm) and 1.25 inches in diameter (3.2 cm).

    The same literature described the female dimensions as proportionate to those for males, with Blacks having larger vaginas and East Asians smaller ones, relative to Caucasians.

    A new focus on penis size has come in the wake of the AIDS crisis…. Both the World Health Organization’s Specifications and Guidelines for Condom Procurement, and the United Nations’ International Organization for Standardization have recommended a 49-mm-width condom for Asia, a 52-mm-width for North America and Europe, and a 53-mm-width for Africa. China is now manufacturing its own condoms, 49-mm. In Thailand, where several ergonomic studies have been conducted, female prostitutes say that size 52-mm condoms bunch up during intercourse causing irritation. Adolescent male users report that even the 49-mm ones slip off during intercourse.

    Bogaert and I also found that the races differed in testicular size. A 1989 article in Nature reported that, on average, East Asians = 9 grams and Europeans = 21 grams, a difference too large to be due just to Europeans having a larger body size (Harvey & May, 1989). The authors of the article said the size difference meant that Whites could produce twice the number of sperm per day as East Asians. (We were unable to find information on the relative testicle size of Blacks.)

    Rushton PH D, J Philippe . Odyssey: My Life as a Controversial Evolutionary Psychologist (p. 258).

  13. “We are tired of Asian American kids growing up and being asked where they’re REALLY from…”

    Then stop referring to yourselves as Asian-Americans.

  14. @Ron Mexico
    The timing of this, though...
    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Technite78

    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

    Yugoslavia (and more broadly speaking the entire former Soviet Union) is full of Slavic hardmen.

    Home land of Ivan Drago.

    By the way, if you want to understand what that movie was really about, watch the above video from 0:29-1:10.

    Ivan Drago isn’t meant to represent just Russia. He’s also meant to represent Nazi Germany. That’s why they chose the Nordic-looking Dolph Lundren to play Ivan Drago. That’s also why they have him kill Black boxer Apollo Creed.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Ivan Drago isn’t meant to represent just Russia. He’s also meant to represent Nazi Germany. That’s why they chose the Nordic-looking Dolph Lundren to play Ivan Drago. That’s also why they have him kill Black boxer Apollo Creed.
     
    "Rocky IV: A Robert Chartoff-Irwin Winkler Production"
    , @J.Ross
    @JohnnyWalker123

    ... but plenty of Slavs have features like that, and are racist and violent ... I mean I get that late Hollywood (and definitely now) can only tell one story, but it really doesn't follow ...

    , @Traveler 3468
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Wait, do mean to tell me the slow raising of the picture of Drago was simply to highlight his blue eyes, blond hair, and Aryan features?

  15. We’re getting into the endgame here where Asians (among other groups) are getting in on victim politics and will try to claim their place on victimhood totem pole.

    During the election cycle and post Summer of George, several of my long time asian friends/acquaintances retconned their childhoods here in the US to include the massive racial discrimination that they faced.

    It was interesting/disturbing to hear, as I went to school with them. They were popular enough (certainly not picked on, or pariahs), dated white girls, went to parties, got solid educations, and went on to become very successful adults.

    They’re not “coming over to our side”; they view themselves just as oppressed as blacks. It’s every group for themselves. Once whitey is toppled over and defeated, no one is going to like what comes next.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Thanks: That Would Be Telling
    • Replies: @Tono Bungay
    @joe_mama

    The appalling feature of the present is that you simply cannot get attention unless you present yourself as a victim, preferably of evil white men. The traditional virtues get no encouragement. Who urges self-restraint today? Who urges thrift? Who urges appreciation for what you have?

    , @Jefferson
    @joe_mama

    What I learned from Asian Americans is that they have the broadest definition of White on the planet. They could be violently attacked by someone who is as Black Skinned as a Sudanese Dinka and still claim that their attacker is a White Supremacist!

  16. JFC when did men become such pussies? I’ve been called every name in the book on and off the field, and that’s just by my friends.

    • LOL: Polistra
  17. A few of points about “on being asked where are you REALLY from”

    1) That is just how some people speak, particularly the less educated. They don’t use terms such as ethnicity when enquiring about someone’s background. I once asked someone what their ethnic background was and they didn’t understand the question until I re-worded it. The non-college educated just don’t have the same vocabulary as the college educated, and I detect a bit of snobbery when people complain about the “where are you really from ” question. Razib Khan mentioned once that he was asked while travelling abroad “Who are your people?” I think that’s how I’ll ask it from now on.

    2) Do some non-white people not realize that they’re not being singled out as being foreign or not belonging? That this how all white people talk to each other. Discussion of ethnic backgrounds was common topic of discussion when I was growing up and still is. In fact with the exception of some French-Canadians and Italians every white person I knew was descended from multiple European ethnicities. It led to interesting convos. How are we supposed to enjoy and learn from diversity if you can’t ask about it.

    3) In my experience enquiring about someone’s background is actually a sign of cosmopolitan curiosity. It’s the parochial and ignorant who don’t give a f***. Some of my older relatives who didn’t have the opportunity to travel the world loved to ask people where they were from.

    4)snobbery: “You’re a loser and beneath me if you even have to ask. It should be obvious by my name what my ethnic background is. A more sophisticated person would know that. I can’t believe I even have to talk to you.” This is the attitude I pick up when I read these complaints.

    5) Normal well-adjusted people of all backgrounds actually like talking about their backgrounds. I’ve not had any bad experiences discussing ethnicity IRL.

    Sorry for the long comment, but this has been a pet peeve. of mine

    • Replies: @Marty
    @eded

    I used to frequent a magazine store owned by an Egyptian. One day he fairly yelled at me, “what religion are you!??” (full disclosure: this may have been around the time I referred to his stepdaughter as a bitch)

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @AnotherDad
    @eded

    Good comment eded--all five points.

    Whining about "where are you from" is ridiculous. Heck under minoritarianism everyone is supposed to scurry around and be a hyphenated something or another.

    If you treated them as just another white kid--which is actually the treatment Asians get in predominantly white American suburbs--the touchy ones would find some way to complain about the "whitening" they were getting or their background being dismissed or something.

    , @vhrm
    @eded

    You're right on all points and it's only the critical race theory micro-aggression people that have made this all weird by divorcing the question from the intent.

    And it's all totally artificial BS. Minorities do this with each other even in group as much as you described your Italian American friends doing it and for the same reasons. Like you can hang out with latino people and they'll be asking each other where they're from, where their parents are from etc.

    You can hang out with a bunch of, say, chines americans and they'll be talking about the same stuff and laughing about how "oh i would have sworn you're Korean" and "are you SURE you don't have any mongolian grandparents?" and things like that.

    And if we're going to get right down to it... black guys might ask you where you're from in the real "do you belong here" sense of "we don't like people from that neighborhood and maybe we need to teach you a lesson for being here"...

    , @Ganderson
    @eded

    I for one am tired of the anti Swedish bias I experience daily, the shouts of “Hey squarehead- go eat some lutfisk!”; Thursday as I was walking my dog I overheard a man complain to his wife about all the herring chokers moving into the neighborhood. Not only that, but during the Oilers- Leafs game I saw someone throw a meatball onto the ice at Adam Larsson. And if all that weren’t bad enough, someone told me a “Sven and Ole “ joke yesterday. I’ve had enough, I’ll tell ya. I’m gonna march on my local Irish pub....

    Replies: @Muggles

  18. “We are tired of being told that we don’t experience racism, we are tired of being told to keep our heads down and not make trouble,” he wrote. “We are tired of Asian American kids growing up and being asked where they’re REALLY from, of having our eyes mocked, of being objectified as exotic or being told we’re inherently unattractive.”

    Linskinned.

  19. @JohnnyWalker123
    $15 minimum wage now!

    https://twitter.com/USTechWorkers/status/1365831320065224705

    Replies: @Daniel H, @ben tillman

    Yeah, and if Biden keeps on making blunders like this he may find that he “lost” the Presidency in 2024 with a 15 million vote margin rather than a 7 million margin.

    Sigh. There is no remedy for stupid.

  20. @Traveler 3468
    Is "Coronavirus" really an insult? It doesn't makes sense - are they saying he's a virus? Athletes trash talk all the time to get a psychological advantage. By mentioning this now I think Lin is admitting he won't be able to make it back to the NBA from the G League - everyone will think he's a crybaby now...but he wasn't going to make it back anyway. Maybe he's pulling a Kaepernick.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Polistra

    Longtime Chicago based NFL reporter (Hub Arkush) mentioned often that one of the stipulations for sideline reporters made by the NFL is that they cannot report on what they hear on the sidelines from players unless it was in the form of a direct quote.

    It seems pretty obvious that the word “nigga” is heard often on those sidelines. The NFL averts its ears to that inconvenient truth.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Mike Tre


    It seems pretty obvious that the word “nigga” is heard often on those sidelines. The NFL averts its ears to that inconvenient truth.
     
    WOW, ya think?
  21. @Ron Mexico
    The timing of this, though...
    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Technite78

    I can tell you what immigrants escaping from the Yugoslavian civil war think of African-Americans.

    Not much. When I lived in San Diego I used a car service that employed mostly 30-something Serbians. They hustled their asses off to make good in the US… and fully appreciated how lucky they were to have escaped the hell of multicultural Yugoslavia. They were also shocked at how lazy and stupid African-Americans were… and they weren’t the least bit intimidated by them; the Serbians considered themselves both tougher and smarter (and they were very likely correct in their assessment).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Truth

  22. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Calling coronavirus “China virus” or “Chinese virus” is incredibly racist. Can you imagine if anyone had called HIV “black virus”, or Ebola “African virus”, H1N1 “Mexican virus”, Zika “Brazilian virus”? No one would ever dare because they’d be crucified. But Trump continues to call it “China virus” and neocon mouthpiece Breitbart is even worse, calling it “Chinese virus” for a year and counting.

    It’s all incredibly classless and nasty.

    I’m also getting tired of Steve’s incessant whining about Trump/whites being “victims” even when it’s clear Asians are being victimized here.

    • Replies: @Traveler 3468
    @anon

    If COVID-19 was released by China's government on purpose, it should probably be called the China Virus.

    , @Polistra
    @anon


    I’m also getting tired of Steve’s incessant whining about Trump/whites being “victims” even when it’s clear Asians are being victimized here.
     
    Perhaps you missed the point that while asians are being victimized whites are being blamed for it. Whites, who had nothing to do with it.

    I offer this assistance while not being quite certain if your objections are serious.

    , @International Jew
    @anon

    Ebola is a river in the Congo.

    , @Tono Bungay
    @anon

    I disagree, anon317. I keep hearing about the British strain and the South African and Brazilian strains. Isn't that objectionable, too? (I'd say of course not.) As for Asian victims, have you ever asked yourself how welcome millions of Occidentals would be in China or Japan?

  23. @Reg Cæsar
    It's not just the coronavirus. Or even America. Thirteen months ago, before the panicdemic, Berlin shut down a popular North Korean hostel:


    Berlin court rules hostel at North Korean Embassy must close


    Asians get no respect in the West. But what soul-stirring architecture!


    https://www.dw.com/image/50051184_101.jpg

    Replies: @Marty, @Muggles

    That building looks to be a clone of the old San Francisco Hilton which Norman Mailer lambasted around 1962.

  24. @Traveler 3468
    Is "Coronavirus" really an insult? It doesn't makes sense - are they saying he's a virus? Athletes trash talk all the time to get a psychological advantage. By mentioning this now I think Lin is admitting he won't be able to make it back to the NBA from the G League - everyone will think he's a crybaby now...but he wasn't going to make it back anyway. Maybe he's pulling a Kaepernick.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Polistra

    Is “Coronavirus” really an insult? It doesn’t makes sense – are they saying he’s a virus? Athletes trash talk all the time

    Dude, dude. It’s a five-syllable word. For some people that’s a lot harder than sinking a three-pointer, know what I mean? Show some respect.

    • LOL: 36 ulster, Escher
  25. @Technite78
    @Ron Mexico

    I can tell you what immigrants escaping from the Yugoslavian civil war think of African-Americans.

    Not much. When I lived in San Diego I used a car service that employed mostly 30-something Serbians. They hustled their asses off to make good in the US... and fully appreciated how lucky they were to have escaped the hell of multicultural Yugoslavia. They were also shocked at how lazy and stupid African-Americans were... and they weren't the least bit intimidated by them; the Serbians considered themselves both tougher and smarter (and they were very likely correct in their assessment).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, the Joker. He is a complete player, has outside game and inside game. Triple double waiting to happen.

    , @anon
    @Steve Sailer


    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.
     
    The Scots Irish target for destruction the most talented races: Serbs, Germanics, the Sunni minority in Iraqi. The impulse is to degrade the competition.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

     

    I remember that on signs and posters in Smokey Stover. It's supposed to mean "Merry Christmas" in Gaelic.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/e4/93/c2e493402547268a9e81c03a87c31d98.jpg

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510rFfj6VJL.jpg

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @JMcG

    , @Truth
    @Steve Sailer

    No Steve, the best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is LeBron James.

    The Lakers are 24-11 without their second-best player, the Nuggets are 18-15.

  26. @anon
    Calling coronavirus "China virus" or "Chinese virus" is incredibly racist. Can you imagine if anyone had called HIV "black virus", or Ebola "African virus", H1N1 "Mexican virus", Zika "Brazilian virus"? No one would ever dare because they'd be crucified. But Trump continues to call it "China virus" and neocon mouthpiece Breitbart is even worse, calling it "Chinese virus" for a year and counting.

    It's all incredibly classless and nasty.

    I'm also getting tired of Steve's incessant whining about Trump/whites being "victims" even when it's clear Asians are being victimized here.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Polistra, @International Jew, @Tono Bungay

    If COVID-19 was released by China’s government on purpose, it should probably be called the China Virus.

  27. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Ron Mexico


    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

     

    https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1365096349079924739

    Yugoslavia (and more broadly speaking the entire former Soviet Union) is full of Slavic hardmen.

    Home land of Ivan Drago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHNcAZYPY_E

    By the way, if you want to understand what that movie was really about, watch the above video from 0:29-1:10.

    Ivan Drago isn't meant to represent just Russia. He's also meant to represent Nazi Germany. That's why they chose the Nordic-looking Dolph Lundren to play Ivan Drago. That's also why they have him kill Black boxer Apollo Creed.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Traveler 3468

    Ivan Drago isn’t meant to represent just Russia. He’s also meant to represent Nazi Germany. That’s why they chose the Nordic-looking Dolph Lundren to play Ivan Drago. That’s also why they have him kill Black boxer Apollo Creed.

    “Rocky IV: A Robert Chartoff-Irwin Winkler Production”

  28. @anon
    Calling coronavirus "China virus" or "Chinese virus" is incredibly racist. Can you imagine if anyone had called HIV "black virus", or Ebola "African virus", H1N1 "Mexican virus", Zika "Brazilian virus"? No one would ever dare because they'd be crucified. But Trump continues to call it "China virus" and neocon mouthpiece Breitbart is even worse, calling it "Chinese virus" for a year and counting.

    It's all incredibly classless and nasty.

    I'm also getting tired of Steve's incessant whining about Trump/whites being "victims" even when it's clear Asians are being victimized here.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Polistra, @International Jew, @Tono Bungay

    I’m also getting tired of Steve’s incessant whining about Trump/whites being “victims” even when it’s clear Asians are being victimized here.

    Perhaps you missed the point that while asians are being victimized whites are being blamed for it. Whites, who had nothing to do with it.

    I offer this assistance while not being quite certain if your objections are serious.

  29. This abuse of Asians in the NBA is getting out of hand.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Bragadocious

    That was a truly great moment in male one-upmanship.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iODDxjp936A

  30. @Altai
    More broadly on Jeremy Lin, I looked into his story and the only reason he got any play on the game that started 'Linsanity' was because so many guys were injured. Once they recovered he was largely put back on the bench. It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.

    This guy got into Harvard, I don't know what, if anything he had to talk about with his teammates but I can't imagine the class and race divide made him terribly popular. But this just isn't talked about.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Ganderson, @AndrewR, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous

    Not true.

    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn’t move to his left very well. For a month he was killing it. It was a sneak attack since he didn’t go to a basketball school and his game was not known. If he had Tiger Woods’ dad or Serena Williams’ dad he would never have been allowed to progress with only one half of an offense game.

    I am all for making a rapist the symbol of the league. My favorite current basketball fact is by far the most effective current offensive play in the NBA is James Harden flopping behind the 3 point line and taking his gimme free-throw-shooting-percentage to the foul line for three free throws.

    • Thanks: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Traveler 3468
    @Morton's toes

    If Lin had Tiger Woods' dad, would he also have Tiger's driving skills?

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    , @Altai
    @Morton's toes

    My mistake, I just assumed that after the guys got over their injuries that they benched him more than you'd assume. The resentment that seems to exist towards him and how much the Asian fanbase (Which seems to be the fastest growing segment, basketball and the NBA seems to be the official sport of immigrants in North America) went crazy over him is real though. It's the Spike Lee offense taking of Larry Bird being so beloved all over again.

    I mean, during the summer they played this during a lot of NBA game half-times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbW9NnMTDS0

    , @Bragadocious
    @Morton's toes

    Lin would have been fine in the league under D'Antoni's Paul Westhead-style offense and matador defensive scheme. Lin wasn't just a scorer--he was making scrubs like Landry Fields look like all-stars with his drive and kick skills.

    The problem was Carmelo, who resented the hell out of Lin and got D'Antoni fired. When Melo returned from his injury on Feb. 20 2012 Linsanity was over. Lin was no longer running the offense, Melo was. If Lin's coronavirus, Melo is stage 4 cancer.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Morton's toes


    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn’t move to his left very well.
     
    Why didn't Lin's coaches figure that one out and drill him? If Lin's so smart then why didn't he work on his game?

    Replies: @Morton's toes

  31. @anon
    Calling coronavirus "China virus" or "Chinese virus" is incredibly racist. Can you imagine if anyone had called HIV "black virus", or Ebola "African virus", H1N1 "Mexican virus", Zika "Brazilian virus"? No one would ever dare because they'd be crucified. But Trump continues to call it "China virus" and neocon mouthpiece Breitbart is even worse, calling it "Chinese virus" for a year and counting.

    It's all incredibly classless and nasty.

    I'm also getting tired of Steve's incessant whining about Trump/whites being "victims" even when it's clear Asians are being victimized here.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Polistra, @International Jew, @Tono Bungay

    Ebola is a river in the Congo.

  32. @eded
    A few of points about "on being asked where are you REALLY from"

    1) That is just how some people speak, particularly the less educated. They don't use terms such as ethnicity when enquiring about someone's background. I once asked someone what their ethnic background was and they didn't understand the question until I re-worded it. The non-college educated just don't have the same vocabulary as the college educated, and I detect a bit of snobbery when people complain about the "where are you really from " question. Razib Khan mentioned once that he was asked while travelling abroad "Who are your people?" I think that's how I'll ask it from now on.

    2) Do some non-white people not realize that they're not being singled out as being foreign or not belonging? That this how all white people talk to each other. Discussion of ethnic backgrounds was common topic of discussion when I was growing up and still is. In fact with the exception of some French-Canadians and Italians every white person I knew was descended from multiple European ethnicities. It led to interesting convos. How are we supposed to enjoy and learn from diversity if you can't ask about it.

    3) In my experience enquiring about someone's background is actually a sign of cosmopolitan curiosity. It's the parochial and ignorant who don't give a f***. Some of my older relatives who didn't have the opportunity to travel the world loved to ask people where they were from.

    4)snobbery: "You're a loser and beneath me if you even have to ask. It should be obvious by my name what my ethnic background is. A more sophisticated person would know that. I can't believe I even have to talk to you." This is the attitude I pick up when I read these complaints.

    5) Normal well-adjusted people of all backgrounds actually like talking about their backgrounds. I've not had any bad experiences discussing ethnicity IRL.

    Sorry for the long comment, but this has been a pet peeve. of mine

    Replies: @Marty, @AnotherDad, @vhrm, @Ganderson

    I used to frequent a magazine store owned by an Egyptian. One day he fairly yelled at me, “what religion are you!??” (full disclosure: this may have been around the time I referred to his stepdaughter as a bitch)

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Marty

    This is hilarious to anyone who has dealt with Arabs because (1) per the culture of their region of origin they often have to know what religion you are as a precondition for basic courtesy (ie, it's actually not supposed to be as creepy as it sounds), and (2) the Arab's normal tone is often angry-sounding shouting when the sentiment is friendly. The idea is that this evil world exasperates moral hardworking people, therefore, to certify how moral and hardworking you are, be sure to scream demands at your friends.

  33. @Anonymous
    CONTEXT ALERT: Before you share this content, you might want to know that fact-checking sites, Snopes.com and Associated Press have determined the following educational video ought to be included, in the interest of fortified accuracy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZbrtEYB5l8

    Replies: @International Jew, @Hypnotoad666

    That’s hilarious. And so sad knowing that now, just nine years later, no one would dare broadcast that.

  34. @Morton's toes
    @Altai

    Not true.

    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn't move to his left very well. For a month he was killing it. It was a sneak attack since he didn't go to a basketball school and his game was not known. If he had Tiger Woods' dad or Serena Williams' dad he would never have been allowed to progress with only one half of an offense game.

    I am all for making a rapist the symbol of the league. My favorite current basketball fact is by far the most effective current offensive play in the NBA is James Harden flopping behind the 3 point line and taking his gimme free-throw-shooting-percentage to the foul line for three free throws.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Altai, @Bragadocious, @Paperback Writer

    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Traveler 3468


    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?
     
    Tiger got his driving skills from his mother.

    Replies: @Anon

  35. Jeremy Lin is tired of playing in the G League.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @eee


    Jeremy Lin is tired of playing in the G League.
     
    "It's all so tiresome."
  36. @Morton's toes
    @Altai

    Not true.

    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn't move to his left very well. For a month he was killing it. It was a sneak attack since he didn't go to a basketball school and his game was not known. If he had Tiger Woods' dad or Serena Williams' dad he would never have been allowed to progress with only one half of an offense game.

    I am all for making a rapist the symbol of the league. My favorite current basketball fact is by far the most effective current offensive play in the NBA is James Harden flopping behind the 3 point line and taking his gimme free-throw-shooting-percentage to the foul line for three free throws.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Altai, @Bragadocious, @Paperback Writer

    My mistake, I just assumed that after the guys got over their injuries that they benched him more than you’d assume. The resentment that seems to exist towards him and how much the Asian fanbase (Which seems to be the fastest growing segment, basketball and the NBA seems to be the official sport of immigrants in North America) went crazy over him is real though. It’s the Spike Lee offense taking of Larry Bird being so beloved all over again.

    I mean, during the summer they played this during a lot of NBA game half-times.

  37. @eded
    A few of points about "on being asked where are you REALLY from"

    1) That is just how some people speak, particularly the less educated. They don't use terms such as ethnicity when enquiring about someone's background. I once asked someone what their ethnic background was and they didn't understand the question until I re-worded it. The non-college educated just don't have the same vocabulary as the college educated, and I detect a bit of snobbery when people complain about the "where are you really from " question. Razib Khan mentioned once that he was asked while travelling abroad "Who are your people?" I think that's how I'll ask it from now on.

    2) Do some non-white people not realize that they're not being singled out as being foreign or not belonging? That this how all white people talk to each other. Discussion of ethnic backgrounds was common topic of discussion when I was growing up and still is. In fact with the exception of some French-Canadians and Italians every white person I knew was descended from multiple European ethnicities. It led to interesting convos. How are we supposed to enjoy and learn from diversity if you can't ask about it.

    3) In my experience enquiring about someone's background is actually a sign of cosmopolitan curiosity. It's the parochial and ignorant who don't give a f***. Some of my older relatives who didn't have the opportunity to travel the world loved to ask people where they were from.

    4)snobbery: "You're a loser and beneath me if you even have to ask. It should be obvious by my name what my ethnic background is. A more sophisticated person would know that. I can't believe I even have to talk to you." This is the attitude I pick up when I read these complaints.

    5) Normal well-adjusted people of all backgrounds actually like talking about their backgrounds. I've not had any bad experiences discussing ethnicity IRL.

    Sorry for the long comment, but this has been a pet peeve. of mine

    Replies: @Marty, @AnotherDad, @vhrm, @Ganderson

    Good comment eded–all five points.

    Whining about “where are you from” is ridiculous. Heck under minoritarianism everyone is supposed to scurry around and be a hyphenated something or another.

    If you treated them as just another white kid–which is actually the treatment Asians get in predominantly white American suburbs–the touchy ones would find some way to complain about the “whitening” they were getting or their background being dismissed or something.

  38. @Anonymous
    CONTEXT ALERT: Before you share this content, you might want to know that fact-checking sites, Snopes.com and Associated Press have determined the following educational video ought to be included, in the interest of fortified accuracy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZbrtEYB5l8

    Replies: @International Jew, @Hypnotoad666

    In fairness, think how many points Lin would have scored if he could open his eyes all the way.

  39. ‘“We are tired of Asian American kids growing up and being asked where they’re REALLY from….’
    says somebody who insists on telling everybody where he is REALLY from.

    Don’t insist on being called African-American or Asian-American and then complain when people think you come from Asia or Africa.

  40. @Marty
    @eded

    I used to frequent a magazine store owned by an Egyptian. One day he fairly yelled at me, “what religion are you!??” (full disclosure: this may have been around the time I referred to his stepdaughter as a bitch)

    Replies: @J.Ross

    This is hilarious to anyone who has dealt with Arabs because (1) per the culture of their region of origin they often have to know what religion you are as a precondition for basic courtesy (ie, it’s actually not supposed to be as creepy as it sounds), and (2) the Arab’s normal tone is often angry-sounding shouting when the sentiment is friendly. The idea is that this evil world exasperates moral hardworking people, therefore, to certify how moral and hardworking you are, be sure to scream demands at your friends.

    • Thanks: bomag
  41. @eded
    A few of points about "on being asked where are you REALLY from"

    1) That is just how some people speak, particularly the less educated. They don't use terms such as ethnicity when enquiring about someone's background. I once asked someone what their ethnic background was and they didn't understand the question until I re-worded it. The non-college educated just don't have the same vocabulary as the college educated, and I detect a bit of snobbery when people complain about the "where are you really from " question. Razib Khan mentioned once that he was asked while travelling abroad "Who are your people?" I think that's how I'll ask it from now on.

    2) Do some non-white people not realize that they're not being singled out as being foreign or not belonging? That this how all white people talk to each other. Discussion of ethnic backgrounds was common topic of discussion when I was growing up and still is. In fact with the exception of some French-Canadians and Italians every white person I knew was descended from multiple European ethnicities. It led to interesting convos. How are we supposed to enjoy and learn from diversity if you can't ask about it.

    3) In my experience enquiring about someone's background is actually a sign of cosmopolitan curiosity. It's the parochial and ignorant who don't give a f***. Some of my older relatives who didn't have the opportunity to travel the world loved to ask people where they were from.

    4)snobbery: "You're a loser and beneath me if you even have to ask. It should be obvious by my name what my ethnic background is. A more sophisticated person would know that. I can't believe I even have to talk to you." This is the attitude I pick up when I read these complaints.

    5) Normal well-adjusted people of all backgrounds actually like talking about their backgrounds. I've not had any bad experiences discussing ethnicity IRL.

    Sorry for the long comment, but this has been a pet peeve. of mine

    Replies: @Marty, @AnotherDad, @vhrm, @Ganderson

    You’re right on all points and it’s only the critical race theory micro-aggression people that have made this all weird by divorcing the question from the intent.

    And it’s all totally artificial BS. Minorities do this with each other even in group as much as you described your Italian American friends doing it and for the same reasons. Like you can hang out with latino people and they’ll be asking each other where they’re from, where their parents are from etc.

    You can hang out with a bunch of, say, chines americans and they’ll be talking about the same stuff and laughing about how “oh i would have sworn you’re Korean” and “are you SURE you don’t have any mongolian grandparents?” and things like that.

    And if we’re going to get right down to it… black guys might ask you where you’re from in the real “do you belong here” sense of “we don’t like people from that neighborhood and maybe we need to teach you a lesson for being here”…

  42. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Ron Mexico


    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

     

    https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1365096349079924739

    Yugoslavia (and more broadly speaking the entire former Soviet Union) is full of Slavic hardmen.

    Home land of Ivan Drago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHNcAZYPY_E

    By the way, if you want to understand what that movie was really about, watch the above video from 0:29-1:10.

    Ivan Drago isn't meant to represent just Russia. He's also meant to represent Nazi Germany. That's why they chose the Nordic-looking Dolph Lundren to play Ivan Drago. That's also why they have him kill Black boxer Apollo Creed.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Traveler 3468

    … but plenty of Slavs have features like that, and are racist and violent … I mean I get that late Hollywood (and definitely now) can only tell one story, but it really doesn’t follow …

  43. Steve, what exactly is your point here? Of course “we’re all going after China and the Chinese now” was pushed by Trump–noisily, 24/7, on all channels, aided and abetted by flunkies like Tucker Carlson. Of course impressionable negro youngsters were going to pick up from him that Chinese are fair game. Nuances like Lin being Taiwanese, and both Taiwan and Mainland China actually being among the places where the virus is best under control (and has been for close to a year), will elude sports kids.

    The impression is that Trump supporters like his boorish, ugly, ugly side because it reflects their own mentality. But what good has it done. Remember 2016? “America is in crisis. It can be fixed, but not by Hillary; only I can.” What has come of it? Did Trump voters ever feel “We can catch a breath, the grown-ups are in charge now and righting the ship”? Did the USA recover some national cohesion under Trump’s watch? To ask such questions is to answer them.

    To elaborate: can you imagine Trump calling Epstein’s blackmail operation “The jew pedophile scandal”? Day in day out? They’d have put him in an asylum.

    • Replies: @WJ
    @Ma Laoshi

    Is there any doubt, at all, that it originated in China? Is there any doubt that the Chinese covered it up and then tried to claim that it wasn't spread by community contact? Is there any doubt that China banned air travel from Wuhan to the rest of China, while still allowing international air travel out of Wuhan? Calling it just the China Virus is being quite charitable to those filthy a holes.

    Replies: @Ma Laoshi

    , @bomag
    @Ma Laoshi


    But what good has it done. Remember 2016? “America is in crisis. It can be fixed, but not by Hillary; only I can.” What has come of it? Did Trump voters ever feel “We can catch a breath, the grown-ups are in charge now and righting the ship”? Did the USA recover some national cohesion under Trump’s watch? To ask such questions is to answer them.
     
    We got a few things; still better than Hillary.

    The lasting value will probably be in revealing that there is little institutional conservatism anywhere near Washington, DC. If we can't do something about that, it doesn't matter who we elect.
  44. We are tired of being told that we don’t experience racism, we are tired of being told to keep our heads down and not make trouble,” he wrote. “We are tired of Asian American kids growing up and being asked where they’re REALLY from, of having our eyes mocked, of being objectified as exotic or being told we’re inherently unattractive.

    This litany is so word perfect it suggests Jeremy or one of his underlins copy and pasted it from somewhere.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Henry's Cat

    Or his agent wrote it up for him.

  45. Unless you are a crybaby these days, you just can’t get any respect!

  46. @joe_mama
    We're getting into the endgame here where Asians (among other groups) are getting in on victim politics and will try to claim their place on victimhood totem pole.

    During the election cycle and post Summer of George, several of my long time asian friends/acquaintances retconned their childhoods here in the US to include the massive racial discrimination that they faced.

    It was interesting/disturbing to hear, as I went to school with them. They were popular enough (certainly not picked on, or pariahs), dated white girls, went to parties, got solid educations, and went on to become very successful adults.

    They're not "coming over to our side"; they view themselves just as oppressed as blacks. It's every group for themselves. Once whitey is toppled over and defeated, no one is going to like what comes next.

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Jefferson

    The appalling feature of the present is that you simply cannot get attention unless you present yourself as a victim, preferably of evil white men. The traditional virtues get no encouragement. Who urges self-restraint today? Who urges thrift? Who urges appreciation for what you have?

    • Agree: bomag
  47. @anon
    Calling coronavirus "China virus" or "Chinese virus" is incredibly racist. Can you imagine if anyone had called HIV "black virus", or Ebola "African virus", H1N1 "Mexican virus", Zika "Brazilian virus"? No one would ever dare because they'd be crucified. But Trump continues to call it "China virus" and neocon mouthpiece Breitbart is even worse, calling it "Chinese virus" for a year and counting.

    It's all incredibly classless and nasty.

    I'm also getting tired of Steve's incessant whining about Trump/whites being "victims" even when it's clear Asians are being victimized here.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Polistra, @International Jew, @Tono Bungay

    I disagree, anon317. I keep hearing about the British strain and the South African and Brazilian strains. Isn’t that objectionable, too? (I’d say of course not.) As for Asian victims, have you ever asked yourself how welcome millions of Occidentals would be in China or Japan?

    • Agree: bomag
  48. @joe_mama
    We're getting into the endgame here where Asians (among other groups) are getting in on victim politics and will try to claim their place on victimhood totem pole.

    During the election cycle and post Summer of George, several of my long time asian friends/acquaintances retconned their childhoods here in the US to include the massive racial discrimination that they faced.

    It was interesting/disturbing to hear, as I went to school with them. They were popular enough (certainly not picked on, or pariahs), dated white girls, went to parties, got solid educations, and went on to become very successful adults.

    They're not "coming over to our side"; they view themselves just as oppressed as blacks. It's every group for themselves. Once whitey is toppled over and defeated, no one is going to like what comes next.

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Jefferson

    What I learned from Asian Americans is that they have the broadest definition of White on the planet. They could be violently attacked by someone who is as Black Skinned as a Sudanese Dinka and still claim that their attacker is a White Supremacist!

  49. Later, Lin said:

    “I know this will disappoint some of you but I’m not naming or shaming anyone. What good does it do in this situation for someone to be torn down? It doesn’t make my community safer or solve any of our long-term problems with racism.”

    So I think we can surmise it was a Black player who said it.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @ADL Pyramid of Hate

    "So I think we can surmise it was a Black player who said it." I think it is a good bet that anything said on a pro basketball court is voiced by a black player.

    , @anon
    @ADL Pyramid of Hate


    “I know this will disappoint some of you but I’m not naming or shaming anyone. What good does it do in this situation for someone to be torn down.
     
    Because then the blame would fall on the real perpetrator and not become a false accusation against the innocent, which is what Lin has made it here.

    And because it wound out pressure on the perpetrator to stop the behavior Lin objects to.

    It doesn’t make my community safer or solve any of our long-term problems with racism.”
     
    “My community”? What community is that, Jeremy? And this guy has the gall to complain people ask him where he’s from.

    Lin sounds like an inconsiderate, self-centered, racist jerk.
  50. Asian Americans are holding anti-White supremacist rallies in California and New York as a response to the increased wave of Black on Asian violence. Asian Americans really are a Clown World people. This would be like LGBTQ Americans holding a rally to blame Televangelist Joel Osteen for ISIS member Omar Mateen committing the Allahu Akbar massacre at The Pulse Night Club in Orlando, Florida!

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
    @Jefferson

    Well, those rallies are BLM-adjacent wokery, hence firmly in clown world; no doubt about it. But is that true for Asian Americans as a whole? I'd guess they'd be pretty conservative--in a traditional sense, not bible&gun freaks. And they keep up with whitey just fine by actually studying in school, thank you very much. At least, that's how it works with Asians here in Asia. But then the entire US has become such a clown world that it may affect anyone who sets foot there, especially the young; maybe this last part is closer to the root cause?

    , @Ma Laoshi
    @Jefferson

    To elaborate, the only organisation I've seen so far that has stood up and denounced Critical Race Theory as a toxic, divisive fraud is the association of Chinese Americans in New York. Can you imagine similar words coming out of the GOP, or a major university? As others have noted, all it takes to note the fundamental phoniness of BLM is the venom with which they denounce and repulse would-be allies proposing "all lives matter". Are whites going to make a similar mistake vis-a-vis their Asian fellow countrymen?

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @Captain Tripps
    @Jefferson

    Jefferson, its been awhile. Welcome back.

  51. @Ma Laoshi
    Steve, what exactly is your point here? Of course "we're all going after China and the Chinese now" was pushed by Trump--noisily, 24/7, on all channels, aided and abetted by flunkies like Tucker Carlson. Of course impressionable negro youngsters were going to pick up from him that Chinese are fair game. Nuances like Lin being Taiwanese, and both Taiwan and Mainland China actually being among the places where the virus is best under control (and has been for close to a year), will elude sports kids.

    The impression is that Trump supporters like his boorish, ugly, ugly side because it reflects their own mentality. But what good has it done. Remember 2016? "America is in crisis. It can be fixed, but not by Hillary; only I can." What has come of it? Did Trump voters ever feel "We can catch a breath, the grown-ups are in charge now and righting the ship"? Did the USA recover some national cohesion under Trump's watch? To ask such questions is to answer them.

    To elaborate: can you imagine Trump calling Epstein's blackmail operation "The jew pedophile scandal"? Day in day out? They'd have put him in an asylum.

    Replies: @WJ, @bomag

    Is there any doubt, at all, that it originated in China? Is there any doubt that the Chinese covered it up and then tried to claim that it wasn’t spread by community contact? Is there any doubt that China banned air travel from Wuhan to the rest of China, while still allowing international air travel out of Wuhan? Calling it just the China Virus is being quite charitable to those filthy a holes.

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
    @WJ

    Doubt that it originated in China? Yes, some; see retroactive analysis of clinical samples, X-rays, etc, showing the virus was all over the place as early as fall 2019. Of course, nobody disagrees that the first big outbreak was in Wuhan. But you don't sound as if such minutiae will bother you.

    Chinese cover-up: well apart from sending that red alert to the WHO on 31 Dec 2019, which somehow reached all adjacent countries regardless of political color but not the best country evah. Oh wait, the CDC was informed separately like three days later. I've seen myself reporters of Dutch TV, reporting freely from on the ground in Wuhan "This is a ghost city now as a massive quarantine operation is underway"; this was well before the virus reached Western shores. But if Trump says it then it must be true; I mean, who could doubt him?

    Air-travel restrictions: among the more serious mistakes the Chinese made when, starting from zero, they were scrambling to understand the crisis, and were reacting reflexively to all-out American political assault. The Chinese-language internet at this time was critical of their own authorities, which had me saying "yeah, but let's also see how others will manage". Of course, planes don't just magically materialize at overseas airports: civilized countries like New Zealand, Taiwan, and Vietnam, and Mongolia took responsibility for their own borders; the US did not. But if you're satisfied with how the US handled the crisis then hey, whatever works for you.

    I mean, this was all in front of our eyes, right? Trump pawned it off to Prince Jared like everything else, and the latter rather openly went "Epidemic Shmepidemic; it's more, like, a business opportunity. We'll ship our respirators to the Motherland, my google buddies will make a nice website, and all will be good. As for the goyim, maybe the individual states can do something for them if they can afford it."

    "those filthy a holes" Making my point for me.

  52. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Truth

    Yes, the Joker. He is a complete player, has outside game and inside game. Triple double waiting to happen.

    • Agree: Swamp Fox
  53. @Traveler 3468
    @Morton's toes

    If Lin had Tiger Woods' dad, would he also have Tiger's driving skills?

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?

    Tiger got his driving skills from his mother.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @OilcanFloyd



    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?
     
    Tiger got his driving skills from his mother.
     
    Are Descendants of American Slaves good drivers? What do the statistics say?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @OilcanFloyd

  54. @Altai
    More broadly on Jeremy Lin, I looked into his story and the only reason he got any play on the game that started 'Linsanity' was because so many guys were injured. Once they recovered he was largely put back on the bench. It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.

    This guy got into Harvard, I don't know what, if anything he had to talk about with his teammates but I can't imagine the class and race divide made him terribly popular. But this just isn't talked about.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Ganderson, @AndrewR, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous

    How white is Ivy League hoops?

  55. @eded
    A few of points about "on being asked where are you REALLY from"

    1) That is just how some people speak, particularly the less educated. They don't use terms such as ethnicity when enquiring about someone's background. I once asked someone what their ethnic background was and they didn't understand the question until I re-worded it. The non-college educated just don't have the same vocabulary as the college educated, and I detect a bit of snobbery when people complain about the "where are you really from " question. Razib Khan mentioned once that he was asked while travelling abroad "Who are your people?" I think that's how I'll ask it from now on.

    2) Do some non-white people not realize that they're not being singled out as being foreign or not belonging? That this how all white people talk to each other. Discussion of ethnic backgrounds was common topic of discussion when I was growing up and still is. In fact with the exception of some French-Canadians and Italians every white person I knew was descended from multiple European ethnicities. It led to interesting convos. How are we supposed to enjoy and learn from diversity if you can't ask about it.

    3) In my experience enquiring about someone's background is actually a sign of cosmopolitan curiosity. It's the parochial and ignorant who don't give a f***. Some of my older relatives who didn't have the opportunity to travel the world loved to ask people where they were from.

    4)snobbery: "You're a loser and beneath me if you even have to ask. It should be obvious by my name what my ethnic background is. A more sophisticated person would know that. I can't believe I even have to talk to you." This is the attitude I pick up when I read these complaints.

    5) Normal well-adjusted people of all backgrounds actually like talking about their backgrounds. I've not had any bad experiences discussing ethnicity IRL.

    Sorry for the long comment, but this has been a pet peeve. of mine

    Replies: @Marty, @AnotherDad, @vhrm, @Ganderson

    I for one am tired of the anti Swedish bias I experience daily, the shouts of “Hey squarehead- go eat some lutfisk!”; Thursday as I was walking my dog I overheard a man complain to his wife about all the herring chokers moving into the neighborhood. Not only that, but during the Oilers- Leafs game I saw someone throw a meatball onto the ice at Adam Larsson. And if all that weren’t bad enough, someone told me a “Sven and Ole “ joke yesterday. I’ve had enough, I’ll tell ya. I’m gonna march on my local Irish pub….

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Ganderson


    I for one am tired of the anti Swedish bias I experience daily
     
    You should move out of those Norwegian slums you live in...
  56. @ADL Pyramid of Hate
    Later, Lin said:

    “I know this will disappoint some of you but I'm not naming or shaming anyone. What good does it do in this situation for someone to be torn down? It doesn't make my community safer or solve any of our long-term problems with racism."
     
    So I think we can surmise it was a Black player who said it.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @anon

    “So I think we can surmise it was a Black player who said it.” I think it is a good bet that anything said on a pro basketball court is voiced by a black player.

  57. @ScarletNumber

    one of the best-known Asian-American players in basketball
     
    I literally can't name any others since Yao Ming retired.

    I watched Lin’s 38 point game and thought it highly unlikely that he could keep up his hot hand that allowed him to sink absurd shots
     
    ESPN SportsCenter anchor Max Bretos was suspended for noticing that once his hot hand ended Lin seemed to have a chink in his armor, which is reminiscent of this clip from Scrubs. The true punchline is under the fold.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnG4aplkw4sBretos' wife is Chinese

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    Being married to an Asian woman does not de facto make one not racist against Asians. A lot of white men with Yellow Fever have this idea that they are “saving” these women from an inferior culture, and still have nothing but contempt for that culture (cough cough Derb).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    Being married to an Asian woman does not de facto make one not racist against Asians.
     
    Your unironic use of the word “Asian” reveals that you consider it to be legitimate classification of a group of human beings. That demonstrates that it is you who is racist.
    , @Captain Tripps
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    I never got the sense that Mr. Derbyshire had contempt for Chinese culture. Rather, my sense is that he finds many things admirable and many things to criticize (like his own native English culture) about that culture. His contempt, if one could characterize it that way, seems confined to the authoritarian streak of the Chinese government, since it is based on the political philosophy of communism. Which is understandable from someone born and raised within the Anglo culture, which gave us the Magna Carta Libertatum, a real attempt to check the authority of an authoritarian ruler.

  58. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Truth

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    The Scots Irish target for destruction the most talented races: Serbs, Germanics, the Sunni minority in Iraqi. The impulse is to degrade the competition.

  59. anon[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @ADL Pyramid of Hate
    Later, Lin said:

    “I know this will disappoint some of you but I'm not naming or shaming anyone. What good does it do in this situation for someone to be torn down? It doesn't make my community safer or solve any of our long-term problems with racism."
     
    So I think we can surmise it was a Black player who said it.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @anon

    “I know this will disappoint some of you but I’m not naming or shaming anyone. What good does it do in this situation for someone to be torn down.

    Because then the blame would fall on the real perpetrator and not become a false accusation against the innocent, which is what Lin has made it here.

    And because it wound out pressure on the perpetrator to stop the behavior Lin objects to.

    It doesn’t make my community safer or solve any of our long-term problems with racism.”

    “My community”? What community is that, Jeremy? And this guy has the gall to complain people ask him where he’s from.

    Lin sounds like an inconsiderate, self-centered, racist jerk.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  60. I’ve always admired guys like Lin for being able to stomach the “culture” of a league like the NBA. His IQ is probably equal the the sum total of rest of the team put together. I’m sure he’s put up with lots of name calling but the lameness of being called “corona virus” prolly broke the camel’s back.

  61. @Altai
    Will this put the changing of the NBA's jumping man logo into Kobe Bryant in jeopardy?

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/kyrie-irving-nba-change-logo-black-kings-built-the-league

    I know what you're thinking, how do you make a monochrome 2d logo of a man into anyone? Well maybe possibly a white guy served as it's inspiration and therefore it's wrong and evil. You might also ask how you turn it into Kobe Bryant but these would be codes for white supremacy.

    "Gotta Happen," Irving wrote on his Instagram. "Idc what anyone says. BLACK KINGS BUILT THE LEAGUE."

    Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told TMZ Sports that he’s on board with changing the NBA logo to Bryant. He said that he "would support it."

    "I just think it's so much more than basketball," Cuban told TMZ. "He brought so many people together."
     
    There's a joke about the violent rape he committed and that up until his death you were free to bring up but that would be in bad taste. It's 2021 we need to make the logo of this multi-billion dollar company into a rapist.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Truth

    The jump man logo is by Nike, not the NBA, and features Michael Jordan’s silhouette. Some people in LA want to change the silhouette on the NBA logo from Jerry West to Kobe Bryant.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Traveler 3468

    Did Jerry West ever rape a black woman? No? Then he's unqualified to be the league's symbol.

    Replies: @Truth

  62. @Ma Laoshi
    Steve, what exactly is your point here? Of course "we're all going after China and the Chinese now" was pushed by Trump--noisily, 24/7, on all channels, aided and abetted by flunkies like Tucker Carlson. Of course impressionable negro youngsters were going to pick up from him that Chinese are fair game. Nuances like Lin being Taiwanese, and both Taiwan and Mainland China actually being among the places where the virus is best under control (and has been for close to a year), will elude sports kids.

    The impression is that Trump supporters like his boorish, ugly, ugly side because it reflects their own mentality. But what good has it done. Remember 2016? "America is in crisis. It can be fixed, but not by Hillary; only I can." What has come of it? Did Trump voters ever feel "We can catch a breath, the grown-ups are in charge now and righting the ship"? Did the USA recover some national cohesion under Trump's watch? To ask such questions is to answer them.

    To elaborate: can you imagine Trump calling Epstein's blackmail operation "The jew pedophile scandal"? Day in day out? They'd have put him in an asylum.

    Replies: @WJ, @bomag

    But what good has it done. Remember 2016? “America is in crisis. It can be fixed, but not by Hillary; only I can.” What has come of it? Did Trump voters ever feel “We can catch a breath, the grown-ups are in charge now and righting the ship”? Did the USA recover some national cohesion under Trump’s watch? To ask such questions is to answer them.

    We got a few things; still better than Hillary.

    The lasting value will probably be in revealing that there is little institutional conservatism anywhere near Washington, DC. If we can’t do something about that, it doesn’t matter who we elect.

  63. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Ron Mexico


    I sometimes wonder what African born, or former Yugoslavia born, players think about how pussified US players are.

     

    https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1365096349079924739

    Yugoslavia (and more broadly speaking the entire former Soviet Union) is full of Slavic hardmen.

    Home land of Ivan Drago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHNcAZYPY_E

    By the way, if you want to understand what that movie was really about, watch the above video from 0:29-1:10.

    Ivan Drago isn't meant to represent just Russia. He's also meant to represent Nazi Germany. That's why they chose the Nordic-looking Dolph Lundren to play Ivan Drago. That's also why they have him kill Black boxer Apollo Creed.

    Replies: @Polistra, @J.Ross, @Traveler 3468

    Wait, do mean to tell me the slow raising of the picture of Drago was simply to highlight his blue eyes, blond hair, and Aryan features?

  64. Have our Chinese masters approved this change?

  65. @JohnnyWalker123
    $15 minimum wage now!

    https://twitter.com/USTechWorkers/status/1365831320065224705

    Replies: @Daniel H, @ben tillman

    David Bier is pretty smart.

  66. Yeah, totally a coincidence that attacks on Asians skyrocketed after conservatives AND liberals scapegoated Asians and tried to pin everything on China.

    If you follow black media, you will see a lot of black influencers taking talking points on China directly from Epoch Times. Black conservatives like Candace Owen’s of course parroted all of Trumps anti China rhetoric.

    Anglos using blacks to push out “Chinese Influence” is exactly what Jews do to gentile whites. So I know the posters here know the game.

    • Agree: Ma Laoshi
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Tor597


    Yeah, totally a coincidence that attacks on Asians skyrocketed after conservatives AND liberals scapegoated Asians and tried to pin everything on China.
     
    Is there any doubt the virus came from China?

    Is there any doubt that Chinese spy on the United States government and on United States individuals and companies?
  67. “inherently unattractive” — that would be the Asian males specifically. And mostly they are being told that by Asian females with snow fever.

  68. @Altai
    More broadly on Jeremy Lin, I looked into his story and the only reason he got any play on the game that started 'Linsanity' was because so many guys were injured. Once they recovered he was largely put back on the bench. It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.

    This guy got into Harvard, I don't know what, if anything he had to talk about with his teammates but I can't imagine the class and race divide made him terribly popular. But this just isn't talked about.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Ganderson, @AndrewR, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous

    His tale is a real chink in the armor of the coalition of the fringes

  69. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Truth

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    I remember that on signs and posters in Smokey Stover. It’s supposed to mean “Merry Christmas” in Gaelic.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar

    You can actually make a 2-wheel car like that.

    https://live.staticflickr.com/8336/8379687865_b40d6aaac3_w.jpg

    https://live.staticflickr.com/8227/8380770516_edf6bc26bf_w.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @JMcG
    @Reg Cæsar

    That would be “Nollaig Shona Duit.” Which is pronounced nothing like the way it looks as though it should be.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  70. This is in the NBAs developmental league and I am surprised they even gave Lin a roster spot as he is already past his prime. The G League, as they call it, is even less white than the NBA. Based on a quick check of current rosters it is less than 10% white.

  71. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

     

    I remember that on signs and posters in Smokey Stover. It's supposed to mean "Merry Christmas" in Gaelic.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/e4/93/c2e493402547268a9e81c03a87c31d98.jpg

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510rFfj6VJL.jpg

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @JMcG

    You can actually make a 2-wheel car like that.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Joe Stalin

    I've never seen a sidecar without a bike attached.

    Oh, wait...


    https://craftybartending.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Sidecar-Cocktail-1.jpg

  72. @Morton's toes
    @Altai

    Not true.

    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn't move to his left very well. For a month he was killing it. It was a sneak attack since he didn't go to a basketball school and his game was not known. If he had Tiger Woods' dad or Serena Williams' dad he would never have been allowed to progress with only one half of an offense game.

    I am all for making a rapist the symbol of the league. My favorite current basketball fact is by far the most effective current offensive play in the NBA is James Harden flopping behind the 3 point line and taking his gimme free-throw-shooting-percentage to the foul line for three free throws.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Altai, @Bragadocious, @Paperback Writer

    Lin would have been fine in the league under D’Antoni’s Paul Westhead-style offense and matador defensive scheme. Lin wasn’t just a scorer–he was making scrubs like Landry Fields look like all-stars with his drive and kick skills.

    The problem was Carmelo, who resented the hell out of Lin and got D’Antoni fired. When Melo returned from his injury on Feb. 20 2012 Linsanity was over. Lin was no longer running the offense, Melo was. If Lin’s coronavirus, Melo is stage 4 cancer.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Bragadocious

    Carmelo Anthony was one of the greatest college players ever. When he was drafted there were a (very) few people saying he was a better #1 pick than LeBron James.

    Did you follow his three-game career with the Houston Rockets? That was one of the more hilarious stories ever in the NBA. Lin was a Rocket too. He was always a decent player but his first month of NBA action was a tyro.

  73. @OilcanFloyd
    @Traveler 3468


    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?
     
    Tiger got his driving skills from his mother.

    Replies: @Anon

    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?

    Tiger got his driving skills from his mother.

    Are Descendants of American Slaves good drivers? What do the statistics say?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Blacks seem to be relatively not bad drivers, although the last chapter of Thomas Pynchon's "Gravity Rainbow" starts off with some comments about the ghetto-crazy driving on the Harbor Freeway in LA which will no doubt someday get him cancelled.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @Anon


    Are Descendants of American Slaves good drivers? What do the statistics say?
     
    I don't know. My comment just seemed in keeping with the spirit of the thread.
  74. @WJ
    @Ma Laoshi

    Is there any doubt, at all, that it originated in China? Is there any doubt that the Chinese covered it up and then tried to claim that it wasn't spread by community contact? Is there any doubt that China banned air travel from Wuhan to the rest of China, while still allowing international air travel out of Wuhan? Calling it just the China Virus is being quite charitable to those filthy a holes.

    Replies: @Ma Laoshi

    Doubt that it originated in China? Yes, some; see retroactive analysis of clinical samples, X-rays, etc, showing the virus was all over the place as early as fall 2019. Of course, nobody disagrees that the first big outbreak was in Wuhan. But you don’t sound as if such minutiae will bother you.

    Chinese cover-up: well apart from sending that red alert to the WHO on 31 Dec 2019, which somehow reached all adjacent countries regardless of political color but not the best country evah. Oh wait, the CDC was informed separately like three days later. I’ve seen myself reporters of Dutch TV, reporting freely from on the ground in Wuhan “This is a ghost city now as a massive quarantine operation is underway”; this was well before the virus reached Western shores. But if Trump says it then it must be true; I mean, who could doubt him?

    Air-travel restrictions: among the more serious mistakes the Chinese made when, starting from zero, they were scrambling to understand the crisis, and were reacting reflexively to all-out American political assault. The Chinese-language internet at this time was critical of their own authorities, which had me saying “yeah, but let’s also see how others will manage”. Of course, planes don’t just magically materialize at overseas airports: civilized countries like New Zealand, Taiwan, and Vietnam, and Mongolia took responsibility for their own borders; the US did not. But if you’re satisfied with how the US handled the crisis then hey, whatever works for you.

    I mean, this was all in front of our eyes, right? Trump pawned it off to Prince Jared like everything else, and the latter rather openly went “Epidemic Shmepidemic; it’s more, like, a business opportunity. We’ll ship our respirators to the Motherland, my google buddies will make a nice website, and all will be good. As for the goyim, maybe the individual states can do something for them if they can afford it.”

    “those filthy a holes” Making my point for me.

  75. Anon[321] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tor597
    Yeah, totally a coincidence that attacks on Asians skyrocketed after conservatives AND liberals scapegoated Asians and tried to pin everything on China.

    If you follow black media, you will see a lot of black influencers taking talking points on China directly from Epoch Times. Black conservatives like Candace Owen's of course parroted all of Trumps anti China rhetoric.

    Anglos using blacks to push out "Chinese Influence" is exactly what Jews do to gentile whites. So I know the posters here know the game.

    Replies: @Anon

    Yeah, totally a coincidence that attacks on Asians skyrocketed after conservatives AND liberals scapegoated Asians and tried to pin everything on China.

    Is there any doubt the virus came from China?

    Is there any doubt that Chinese spy on the United States government and on United States individuals and companies?

  76. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @ScarletNumber

    Being married to an Asian woman does not de facto make one not racist against Asians. A lot of white men with Yellow Fever have this idea that they are “saving” these women from an inferior culture, and still have nothing but contempt for that culture (cough cough Derb).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Captain Tripps

    Being married to an Asian woman does not de facto make one not racist against Asians.

    Your unironic use of the word “Asian” reveals that you consider it to be legitimate classification of a group of human beings. That demonstrates that it is you who is racist.

  77. A 32 year old never has been in a developmental league?

    Pro sports gets weirder and weirder. Thankfully I have left that nonsense behind

  78. @Jefferson
    Asian Americans are holding anti-White supremacist rallies in California and New York as a response to the increased wave of Black on Asian violence. Asian Americans really are a Clown World people. This would be like LGBTQ Americans holding a rally to blame Televangelist Joel Osteen for ISIS member Omar Mateen committing the Allahu Akbar massacre at The Pulse Night Club in Orlando, Florida!

    Replies: @Ma Laoshi, @Ma Laoshi, @Captain Tripps

    Well, those rallies are BLM-adjacent wokery, hence firmly in clown world; no doubt about it. But is that true for Asian Americans as a whole? I’d guess they’d be pretty conservative–in a traditional sense, not bible&gun freaks. And they keep up with whitey just fine by actually studying in school, thank you very much. At least, that’s how it works with Asians here in Asia. But then the entire US has become such a clown world that it may affect anyone who sets foot there, especially the young; maybe this last part is closer to the root cause?

  79. @Anon
    @OilcanFloyd



    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?
     
    Tiger got his driving skills from his mother.
     
    Are Descendants of American Slaves good drivers? What do the statistics say?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @OilcanFloyd

    Blacks seem to be relatively not bad drivers, although the last chapter of Thomas Pynchon’s “Gravity Rainbow” starts off with some comments about the ghetto-crazy driving on the Harbor Freeway in LA which will no doubt someday get him cancelled.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Anybody who would cancel him isn't smart enough to read to the end.

  80. @Reg Cæsar
    It's not just the coronavirus. Or even America. Thirteen months ago, before the panicdemic, Berlin shut down a popular North Korean hostel:


    Berlin court rules hostel at North Korean Embassy must close


    Asians get no respect in the West. But what soul-stirring architecture!


    https://www.dw.com/image/50051184_101.jpg

    Replies: @Marty, @Muggles

    A hostel in the North Korean embassy in Berlin?

    That’s the answer to the question: what is the least desirable housing in Germany?

    No Dogs Allowed Outside of Kitchen!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Muggles


    A hostel in the North Korean embassy in Berlin?

     

    Run by Turks, no less.
  81. @eee
    Jeremy Lin is tired of playing in the G League.

    Replies: @Muggles

    Jeremy Lin is tired of playing in the G League.

    “It’s all so tiresome.”

  82. @Ganderson
    @eded

    I for one am tired of the anti Swedish bias I experience daily, the shouts of “Hey squarehead- go eat some lutfisk!”; Thursday as I was walking my dog I overheard a man complain to his wife about all the herring chokers moving into the neighborhood. Not only that, but during the Oilers- Leafs game I saw someone throw a meatball onto the ice at Adam Larsson. And if all that weren’t bad enough, someone told me a “Sven and Ole “ joke yesterday. I’ve had enough, I’ll tell ya. I’m gonna march on my local Irish pub....

    Replies: @Muggles

    I for one am tired of the anti Swedish bias I experience daily

    You should move out of those Norwegian slums you live in…

  83. @Jefferson
    Asian Americans are holding anti-White supremacist rallies in California and New York as a response to the increased wave of Black on Asian violence. Asian Americans really are a Clown World people. This would be like LGBTQ Americans holding a rally to blame Televangelist Joel Osteen for ISIS member Omar Mateen committing the Allahu Akbar massacre at The Pulse Night Club in Orlando, Florida!

    Replies: @Ma Laoshi, @Ma Laoshi, @Captain Tripps

    To elaborate, the only organisation I’ve seen so far that has stood up and denounced Critical Race Theory as a toxic, divisive fraud is the association of Chinese Americans in New York. Can you imagine similar words coming out of the GOP, or a major university? As others have noted, all it takes to note the fundamental phoniness of BLM is the venom with which they denounce and repulse would-be allies proposing “all lives matter”. Are whites going to make a similar mistake vis-a-vis their Asian fellow countrymen?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Ma Laoshi


    Can you imagine similar words coming out of the GOP, or a major university?
     
    Excellent point.
  84. @Anon
    @OilcanFloyd



    If Lin had Tiger Woods’ dad, would he also have Tiger’s driving skills?
     
    Tiger got his driving skills from his mother.
     
    Are Descendants of American Slaves good drivers? What do the statistics say?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @OilcanFloyd

    Are Descendants of American Slaves good drivers? What do the statistics say?

    I don’t know. My comment just seemed in keeping with the spirit of the thread.

  85. @Bragadocious
    @Morton's toes

    Lin would have been fine in the league under D'Antoni's Paul Westhead-style offense and matador defensive scheme. Lin wasn't just a scorer--he was making scrubs like Landry Fields look like all-stars with his drive and kick skills.

    The problem was Carmelo, who resented the hell out of Lin and got D'Antoni fired. When Melo returned from his injury on Feb. 20 2012 Linsanity was over. Lin was no longer running the offense, Melo was. If Lin's coronavirus, Melo is stage 4 cancer.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    Carmelo Anthony was one of the greatest college players ever. When he was drafted there were a (very) few people saying he was a better #1 pick than LeBron James.

    Did you follow his three-game career with the Houston Rockets? That was one of the more hilarious stories ever in the NBA. Lin was a Rocket too. He was always a decent player but his first month of NBA action was a tyro.

  86. Now, during the Biden Era, with blacks being caught on video perhaps a little more often than normal attacking blacks

    I think you mean Asians.

  87. @Morton's toes
    @Altai

    Not true.

    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn't move to his left very well. For a month he was killing it. It was a sneak attack since he didn't go to a basketball school and his game was not known. If he had Tiger Woods' dad or Serena Williams' dad he would never have been allowed to progress with only one half of an offense game.

    I am all for making a rapist the symbol of the league. My favorite current basketball fact is by far the most effective current offensive play in the NBA is James Harden flopping behind the 3 point line and taking his gimme free-throw-shooting-percentage to the foul line for three free throws.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Altai, @Bragadocious, @Paperback Writer

    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn’t move to his left very well.

    Why didn’t Lin’s coaches figure that one out and drill him? If Lin’s so smart then why didn’t he work on his game?

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Paperback Writer

    When they asked Billy Martin why he put up with all of Reggie Jackson's antics he replied:


    You have your racehorses, and you have your mules, and you can beat a mule with a 2 x 4 all you want; he ain't ever gonna win the Kentucky Derby.
     
    Surely Chris Paul has done all the drills but you don't get left moving equal to right moving without rare biophysics gifts.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  88. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

     

    I remember that on signs and posters in Smokey Stover. It's supposed to mean "Merry Christmas" in Gaelic.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/e4/93/c2e493402547268a9e81c03a87c31d98.jpg

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510rFfj6VJL.jpg

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @JMcG

    That would be “Nollaig Shona Duit.” Which is pronounced nothing like the way it looks as though it should be.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @JMcG


    That would be “Nollaig Shona Duit.”

     

    Then "Nikola Jokić" is actually closer than "Notary Sojac".

    Which is pronounced nothing like the way it looks as though it should be.
     
    The first rule of all the Gaelic tongues, and likely of the Brythonic as well. When people say that English has the worst spelling in the world, I reply that it isn't even the third-worst in the British Isles. (We won't even get into Tibetan.)



    https://tours.pocketsights.com/media/2639/9ebb38e953ad4695b642639f231eb071_medium.jpg
  89. @Altai
    More broadly on Jeremy Lin, I looked into his story and the only reason he got any play on the game that started 'Linsanity' was because so many guys were injured. Once they recovered he was largely put back on the bench. It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.

    This guy got into Harvard, I don't know what, if anything he had to talk about with his teammates but I can't imagine the class and race divide made him terribly popular. But this just isn't talked about.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Ganderson, @AndrewR, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous

    It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.

    Which black guys? Floyd Mayweather called bullshit on Linsanity, but I never heard anyone else do the same. My guess is that the black players in the NBA were bemused and thought it was all part of the game.

  90. @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar

    You can actually make a 2-wheel car like that.

    https://live.staticflickr.com/8336/8379687865_b40d6aaac3_w.jpg

    https://live.staticflickr.com/8227/8380770516_edf6bc26bf_w.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve never seen a sidecar without a bike attached.

    Oh, wait…

  91. @Muggles
    @Reg Cæsar

    A hostel in the North Korean embassy in Berlin?

    That's the answer to the question: what is the least desirable housing in Germany?

    No Dogs Allowed Outside of Kitchen!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    A hostel in the North Korean embassy in Berlin?

    Run by Turks, no less.

  92. @Paperback Writer
    @Morton's toes


    Jeremy Lin tore the league up until they got enough video on him and figured out he couldn’t move to his left very well.
     
    Why didn't Lin's coaches figure that one out and drill him? If Lin's so smart then why didn't he work on his game?

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    When they asked Billy Martin why he put up with all of Reggie Jackson’s antics he replied:

    You have your racehorses, and you have your mules, and you can beat a mule with a 2 x 4 all you want; he ain’t ever gonna win the Kentucky Derby.

    Surely Chris Paul has done all the drills but you don’t get left moving equal to right moving without rare biophysics gifts.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Morton's toes

    The Dodgers had some success in the 1950-1960s teaching right handed hitting minor leaguers like Maury Wills to become ambidextrous switch-hitters, but the fad hurt a lot of careers as well. If a kid starts switch-hitting as an adolescent, that can work, but changing at age 19 seldom does.

    And batting is pretty easy. Throwing is tougher. There have only been a tiny number of ambidextrous pitchers in major league history, like 2 or 3, even though there are obvious platoon advantages plus less strain on the arm(s).

    A lot of players go back and forth between playing third base (where you have to be right handed) and first base (where it helps to be left handed), but I've never heard of a big leaguer switching throwing arms depending on his position.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

  93. @Morton's toes
    @Paperback Writer

    When they asked Billy Martin why he put up with all of Reggie Jackson's antics he replied:


    You have your racehorses, and you have your mules, and you can beat a mule with a 2 x 4 all you want; he ain't ever gonna win the Kentucky Derby.
     
    Surely Chris Paul has done all the drills but you don't get left moving equal to right moving without rare biophysics gifts.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The Dodgers had some success in the 1950-1960s teaching right handed hitting minor leaguers like Maury Wills to become ambidextrous switch-hitters, but the fad hurt a lot of careers as well. If a kid starts switch-hitting as an adolescent, that can work, but changing at age 19 seldom does.

    And batting is pretty easy. Throwing is tougher. There have only been a tiny number of ambidextrous pitchers in major league history, like 2 or 3, even though there are obvious platoon advantages plus less strain on the arm(s).

    A lot of players go back and forth between playing third base (where you have to be right handed) and first base (where it helps to be left handed), but I’ve never heard of a big leaguer switching throwing arms depending on his position.

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @Steve Sailer

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1086995-baseballs-25-best-switch-hitters-of-all-time/

    Switch hitting is like impossible.There are only 4-5 names on that list a casual baseball fan would recognize. Did Maury Wills ever make the Hall of Fame? Would people even be talking about Wills as a Hall of Famer if he didn't have that 104 stolen bases year?

    Mickey Mantle was even a freakier freak of nature than Chris Paul.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  94. @JMcG
    @Reg Cæsar

    That would be “Nollaig Shona Duit.” Which is pronounced nothing like the way it looks as though it should be.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That would be “Nollaig Shona Duit.”

    Then “Nikola Jokić” is actually closer than “Notary Sojac”.

    Which is pronounced nothing like the way it looks as though it should be.

    The first rule of all the Gaelic tongues, and likely of the Brythonic as well. When people say that English has the worst spelling in the world, I reply that it isn’t even the third-worst in the British Isles. (We won’t even get into Tibetan.)

  95. @Traveler 3468
    @Altai

    The jump man logo is by Nike, not the NBA, and features Michael Jordan's silhouette. Some people in LA want to change the silhouette on the NBA logo from Jerry West to Kobe Bryant.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    Did Jerry West ever rape a black woman? No? Then he’s unqualified to be the league’s symbol.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Nicholas Stix


    Did Jerry West ever rape a black woman? No? Then he’s unqualified to be the league’s symbol.
     
    I think the question you mean to ask is, "Was Jerry West ever convicted of raping a black woman*?"

    I would say that you are probably unqualified to answer the first question, unless, of course, you have worked as his manservant, since, at least his rookie year in 1960 (I don't know if blacks were allowed into the University of West Virginia at that time).

    (*Of course, that dude you are thinking of was never convicted of raping a white one either, but maybe you went from working at the Jerry West estate to the "victim's" hotel in Denver. That would be some coincidence!)

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @AceDeuce

  96. @Henry's Cat

    We are tired of being told that we don’t experience racism, we are tired of being told to keep our heads down and not make trouble,” he wrote. “We are tired of Asian American kids growing up and being asked where they’re REALLY from, of having our eyes mocked, of being objectified as exotic or being told we’re inherently unattractive.
     
    This litany is so word perfect it suggests Jeremy or one of his underlins copy and pasted it from somewhere.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    Or his agent wrote it up for him.

  97. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @ScarletNumber

    Being married to an Asian woman does not de facto make one not racist against Asians. A lot of white men with Yellow Fever have this idea that they are “saving” these women from an inferior culture, and still have nothing but contempt for that culture (cough cough Derb).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Captain Tripps

    I never got the sense that Mr. Derbyshire had contempt for Chinese culture. Rather, my sense is that he finds many things admirable and many things to criticize (like his own native English culture) about that culture. His contempt, if one could characterize it that way, seems confined to the authoritarian streak of the Chinese government, since it is based on the political philosophy of communism. Which is understandable from someone born and raised within the Anglo culture, which gave us the Magna Carta Libertatum, a real attempt to check the authority of an authoritarian ruler.

  98. @Jefferson
    Asian Americans are holding anti-White supremacist rallies in California and New York as a response to the increased wave of Black on Asian violence. Asian Americans really are a Clown World people. This would be like LGBTQ Americans holding a rally to blame Televangelist Joel Osteen for ISIS member Omar Mateen committing the Allahu Akbar massacre at The Pulse Night Club in Orlando, Florida!

    Replies: @Ma Laoshi, @Ma Laoshi, @Captain Tripps

    Jefferson, its been awhile. Welcome back.

  99. @Steve Sailer
    @Morton's toes

    The Dodgers had some success in the 1950-1960s teaching right handed hitting minor leaguers like Maury Wills to become ambidextrous switch-hitters, but the fad hurt a lot of careers as well. If a kid starts switch-hitting as an adolescent, that can work, but changing at age 19 seldom does.

    And batting is pretty easy. Throwing is tougher. There have only been a tiny number of ambidextrous pitchers in major league history, like 2 or 3, even though there are obvious platoon advantages plus less strain on the arm(s).

    A lot of players go back and forth between playing third base (where you have to be right handed) and first base (where it helps to be left handed), but I've never heard of a big leaguer switching throwing arms depending on his position.

    Replies: @Morton's toes

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1086995-baseballs-25-best-switch-hitters-of-all-time/

    Switch hitting is like impossible.There are only 4-5 names on that list a casual baseball fan would recognize. Did Maury Wills ever make the Hall of Fame? Would people even be talking about Wills as a Hall of Famer if he didn’t have that 104 stolen bases year?

    Mickey Mantle was even a freakier freak of nature than Chris Paul.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Morton's toes


    Did Maury Wills ever make the Hall of Fame?
     
    No. The closest he came was in his 2nd year of being on the ballot, when he got 40.6% when he needed 75%, so not even close.

    Also, he was a lousy manager. He attempted to gain an advantage by having the grounds' crew misdraw the batters boxes. Unfortunately, he tried this against the Oakland A's, who were managed by Billy Martin. Billy noticed right away and called him out on it. For this reason and myriad others, Bill James has referred to Maury as a disaster of a human being.
  100. @Altai
    Will this put the changing of the NBA's jumping man logo into Kobe Bryant in jeopardy?

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/kyrie-irving-nba-change-logo-black-kings-built-the-league

    I know what you're thinking, how do you make a monochrome 2d logo of a man into anyone? Well maybe possibly a white guy served as it's inspiration and therefore it's wrong and evil. You might also ask how you turn it into Kobe Bryant but these would be codes for white supremacy.

    "Gotta Happen," Irving wrote on his Instagram. "Idc what anyone says. BLACK KINGS BUILT THE LEAGUE."

    Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told TMZ Sports that he’s on board with changing the NBA logo to Bryant. He said that he "would support it."

    "I just think it's so much more than basketball," Cuban told TMZ. "He brought so many people together."
     
    There's a joke about the violent rape he committed and that up until his death you were free to bring up but that would be in bad taste. It's 2021 we need to make the logo of this multi-billion dollar company into a rapist.

    Replies: @Traveler 3468, @Truth

    It’s 2021 we need to make the logo of this multi-billion dollar company into a rapist.

    I think there would have to be two silhouettes on the logo then; and where would you put the basketball? Seems a little busy if you ask me.

  101. @Mike Tre
    @Traveler 3468

    Longtime Chicago based NFL reporter (Hub Arkush) mentioned often that one of the stipulations for sideline reporters made by the NFL is that they cannot report on what they hear on the sidelines from players unless it was in the form of a direct quote.

    It seems pretty obvious that the word "nigga" is heard often on those sidelines. The NFL averts its ears to that inconvenient truth.

    Replies: @Truth

    It seems pretty obvious that the word “nigga” is heard often on those sidelines. The NFL averts its ears to that inconvenient truth.

    WOW, ya think?

  102. @Steve Sailer
    @Technite78

    The best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is Nikola Jokić of Serbia.

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Truth

    No Steve, the best player in the NBA this year after 32 games is LeBron James.

    The Lakers are 24-11 without their second-best player, the Nuggets are 18-15.

  103. @Bragadocious
    This abuse of Asians in the NBA is getting out of hand.

    https://zonecoverage.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/USATSI_15600721_168390100_lowres-683x1024.jpg

    Replies: @Truth

    That was a truly great moment in male one-upmanship.

  104. @Nicholas Stix
    @Traveler 3468

    Did Jerry West ever rape a black woman? No? Then he's unqualified to be the league's symbol.

    Replies: @Truth

    Did Jerry West ever rape a black woman? No? Then he’s unqualified to be the league’s symbol.

    I think the question you mean to ask is, “Was Jerry West ever convicted of raping a black woman*?”

    I would say that you are probably unqualified to answer the first question, unless, of course, you have worked as his manservant, since, at least his rookie year in 1960 (I don’t know if blacks were allowed into the University of West Virginia at that time).

    (*Of course, that dude you are thinking of was never convicted of raping a white one either, but maybe you went from working at the Jerry West estate to the “victim’s” hotel in Denver. That would be some coincidence!)

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Truth

    Yes, I went from working as Jerry West's manservant to the victim’s hotel in Denver. However did you guess?!

    , @AceDeuce
    @Truth

    Kobe's rape hotel was in Eagle, Colorado, which is 125 miles from Denver.

    Yes, negroes went to WVU, the main Hidden Figures negress went to the grad school when Jerry West was in elementary school.

    If you or any other cuck needed any proof about the Kobester and his raping, go to the Smoking Gun website and check out the transcript of the Colorado cops' initial interview with him. It runs 40 pages, give or take, and it gives an accurate portrayal of what a lowlife Kobe is. Not to worry, the White cops are more tender and deferential to him than most mothers are with their newborn babies. Kobe even cries when he's caught in one of several lies.

  105. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    If you’re man enough to call it “Chinese virus”, then be man enough to take the responsibility when Asians get beat up for the sentiment of hatred that your rhetoric helped rile up. I’m sick of Steve’s incessant whining about whites being victims at every turn. Trump is responsible for this shit with all the hatred he riled up against China. Asians are racially distinct, easy to tell apart from other ethnics but don’t easy to tell apart among themselves. All Asians are implicated by his racist rhetoric.

    Trump and his minion’s demonization of China is worse than the left’s demonization of Russia — Russians are not as easy to tell apart. As I said I dare him and all those who continue to call this “Chinese virus” to also refer to HIV as “Black Virus”, Ebola as “African virus”, H1N1 as “Mexican virus”. Man up! Otherwise you’re just a craven bully going after easy victims.

    Saying UK “strain” or South African “strain” is totally different from calling it “British virus” or “South African virus”. Anyone with any two bits brain can tell the difference.

    If you hate China so much, stop doing any and all business with China, ban all entry of Chinese, expel all current and former Chinese citizens from US soil, but stop with the demonization.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @anon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0T2JSpWO_w
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlr_AUIxvIs

    , @Ma Laoshi
    @anon

    Like I wrote elsewhere on this page: can you imagine Trump calling Epstein’s blackmail operation “The jew pedophile scandal”? Day in day out? They’d have put him in an asylum. And this while in that case, all the evidence suggests that the full institutional weight of Mossad was indeed behind it--something that'll have to be carefully Photoshopped out of Ghislaine Maxwell's trail.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @anon

    Says the anonymous coward. Man up, indeed!

    Russia vs. Red China is a false comparison. Russia has not attacked us, while Red China attacked the entire world (outside of its borders), with the biggest germ warfare attack in history.

    Ultimately, your entire comment was based on a hoax. Trump supporters have never engaged in racial attacks against Chinese or other East Asians. All but one of them were by racist blacks; the other case was allegedly by a hispanic named Mateo.

    I immediately debunked this new york times hoax:

    "Russia Hoax, Impeachment Hoax Didn't Stop Trump, So NEW YORK TIMES Tries Anti Asian Hate-Crimes Hoax"
    https://vdare.com/articles/russia-hoax-impeachment-hoax-didn-t-stop-trump-so-new-york-times-tries-anti-asian-hate-crimes-hoax

    , @William Badwhite
    @anon


    ban all entry of Chinese, expel all current and former Chinese citizens from US soil
     
    An excellent idea, though I suspect you'd keep whining anyway.
  106. @anon
    If you're man enough to call it "Chinese virus", then be man enough to take the responsibility when Asians get beat up for the sentiment of hatred that your rhetoric helped rile up. I'm sick of Steve's incessant whining about whites being victims at every turn. Trump is responsible for this shit with all the hatred he riled up against China. Asians are racially distinct, easy to tell apart from other ethnics but don't easy to tell apart among themselves. All Asians are implicated by his racist rhetoric.

    Trump and his minion's demonization of China is worse than the left's demonization of Russia -- Russians are not as easy to tell apart. As I said I dare him and all those who continue to call this "Chinese virus" to also refer to HIV as "Black Virus", Ebola as "African virus", H1N1 as "Mexican virus". Man up! Otherwise you're just a craven bully going after easy victims.

    Saying UK "strain" or South African "strain" is totally different from calling it "British virus" or "South African virus". Anyone with any two bits brain can tell the difference.

    If you hate China so much, stop doing any and all business with China, ban all entry of Chinese, expel all current and former Chinese citizens from US soil, but stop with the demonization.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Ma Laoshi, @Nicholas Stix, @William Badwhite

  107. @Ma Laoshi
    @Jefferson

    To elaborate, the only organisation I've seen so far that has stood up and denounced Critical Race Theory as a toxic, divisive fraud is the association of Chinese Americans in New York. Can you imagine similar words coming out of the GOP, or a major university? As others have noted, all it takes to note the fundamental phoniness of BLM is the venom with which they denounce and repulse would-be allies proposing "all lives matter". Are whites going to make a similar mistake vis-a-vis their Asian fellow countrymen?

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Can you imagine similar words coming out of the GOP, or a major university?

    Excellent point.

  108. @anon
    If you're man enough to call it "Chinese virus", then be man enough to take the responsibility when Asians get beat up for the sentiment of hatred that your rhetoric helped rile up. I'm sick of Steve's incessant whining about whites being victims at every turn. Trump is responsible for this shit with all the hatred he riled up against China. Asians are racially distinct, easy to tell apart from other ethnics but don't easy to tell apart among themselves. All Asians are implicated by his racist rhetoric.

    Trump and his minion's demonization of China is worse than the left's demonization of Russia -- Russians are not as easy to tell apart. As I said I dare him and all those who continue to call this "Chinese virus" to also refer to HIV as "Black Virus", Ebola as "African virus", H1N1 as "Mexican virus". Man up! Otherwise you're just a craven bully going after easy victims.

    Saying UK "strain" or South African "strain" is totally different from calling it "British virus" or "South African virus". Anyone with any two bits brain can tell the difference.

    If you hate China so much, stop doing any and all business with China, ban all entry of Chinese, expel all current and former Chinese citizens from US soil, but stop with the demonization.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Ma Laoshi, @Nicholas Stix, @William Badwhite

    Like I wrote elsewhere on this page: can you imagine Trump calling Epstein’s blackmail operation “The jew pedophile scandal”? Day in day out? They’d have put him in an asylum. And this while in that case, all the evidence suggests that the full institutional weight of Mossad was indeed behind it–something that’ll have to be carefully Photoshopped out of Ghislaine Maxwell’s trail.

  109. @Morton's toes
    @Steve Sailer

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1086995-baseballs-25-best-switch-hitters-of-all-time/

    Switch hitting is like impossible.There are only 4-5 names on that list a casual baseball fan would recognize. Did Maury Wills ever make the Hall of Fame? Would people even be talking about Wills as a Hall of Famer if he didn't have that 104 stolen bases year?

    Mickey Mantle was even a freakier freak of nature than Chris Paul.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Did Maury Wills ever make the Hall of Fame?

    No. The closest he came was in his 2nd year of being on the ballot, when he got 40.6% when he needed 75%, so not even close.

    Also, he was a lousy manager. He attempted to gain an advantage by having the grounds’ crew misdraw the batters boxes. Unfortunately, he tried this against the Oakland A’s, who were managed by Billy Martin. Billy noticed right away and called him out on it. For this reason and myriad others, Bill James has referred to Maury as a disaster of a human being.

  110. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    More broadly on Jeremy Lin, I looked into his story and the only reason he got any play on the game that started 'Linsanity' was because so many guys were injured. Once they recovered he was largely put back on the bench. It was an open secret that the black guys hated his guts and felt insulted by the mania that took place around him.

    This guy got into Harvard, I don't know what, if anything he had to talk about with his teammates but I can't imagine the class and race divide made him terribly popular. But this just isn't talked about.

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Ganderson, @AndrewR, @Paperback Writer, @Anonymous

    I remember following the NBA actively at the time, it was truly bizarre how well he did for a while. I think it was just “right place right time.” Carmelo Anthony, who never worked well with Mike D’Antoni’s fast-paced philosophy, went out, and then probably as you said some other injuries happened, and then all of a sudden Jeremy Lin started doing really well in the system, basically playing as Steve Nash for a bit. (D’Antoni was Nash’s coach in Phoenix)

    I think defenses smarted up to him very but he was still a pretty functional player for a while, and got a very nice contract in the offseason if i remember correctly. I bet he could play productive minutes on a team now, but he’s nothing special, and in the NBA teams will give up on guys fast if they (1) aren’t stars and (2) don’t have the potential to become stars. It’s hard to overestimate how competitive the NBA really is.

  111. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Blacks seem to be relatively not bad drivers, although the last chapter of Thomas Pynchon's "Gravity Rainbow" starts off with some comments about the ghetto-crazy driving on the Harbor Freeway in LA which will no doubt someday get him cancelled.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Anybody who would cancel him isn’t smart enough to read to the end.

  112. The fact is that covid-19 was created in a laboratory in Wuhun, however, what has been suppressed or perhaps not known is the U.S. collaborated with China in the 70s. If one wants to discuss it’s etiology then peer no further than that which was aforementioned. This was created as a bio-weapon and as one can plainly see, there has been no cure found. One of the reasons it is indestructible is because it mutates, which makes it’s structure more powerful with each succeeding mutation. This bio-weapon has mutated more than several times, as the mainstream has indicated, but that is inaccurate as this virus has mutated 6-10 times since it’s discovery and that may be a low-end count. More mutations are forthcoming from South Africa, Brazil and perhaps Great Britain. Human beings of this planet have not discovered a cure because, at this time. they are incapable of discovering one.

  113. @anon
    If you're man enough to call it "Chinese virus", then be man enough to take the responsibility when Asians get beat up for the sentiment of hatred that your rhetoric helped rile up. I'm sick of Steve's incessant whining about whites being victims at every turn. Trump is responsible for this shit with all the hatred he riled up against China. Asians are racially distinct, easy to tell apart from other ethnics but don't easy to tell apart among themselves. All Asians are implicated by his racist rhetoric.

    Trump and his minion's demonization of China is worse than the left's demonization of Russia -- Russians are not as easy to tell apart. As I said I dare him and all those who continue to call this "Chinese virus" to also refer to HIV as "Black Virus", Ebola as "African virus", H1N1 as "Mexican virus". Man up! Otherwise you're just a craven bully going after easy victims.

    Saying UK "strain" or South African "strain" is totally different from calling it "British virus" or "South African virus". Anyone with any two bits brain can tell the difference.

    If you hate China so much, stop doing any and all business with China, ban all entry of Chinese, expel all current and former Chinese citizens from US soil, but stop with the demonization.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Ma Laoshi, @Nicholas Stix, @William Badwhite

    Says the anonymous coward. Man up, indeed!

    Russia vs. Red China is a false comparison. Russia has not attacked us, while Red China attacked the entire world (outside of its borders), with the biggest germ warfare attack in history.

    Ultimately, your entire comment was based on a hoax. Trump supporters have never engaged in racial attacks against Chinese or other East Asians. All but one of them were by racist blacks; the other case was allegedly by a hispanic named Mateo.

    I immediately debunked this new york times hoax:

    “Russia Hoax, Impeachment Hoax Didn’t Stop Trump, So NEW YORK TIMES Tries Anti Asian Hate-Crimes Hoax”
    https://vdare.com/articles/russia-hoax-impeachment-hoax-didn-t-stop-trump-so-new-york-times-tries-anti-asian-hate-crimes-hoax

    • Thanks: David In TN
  114. @Truth
    @Nicholas Stix


    Did Jerry West ever rape a black woman? No? Then he’s unqualified to be the league’s symbol.
     
    I think the question you mean to ask is, "Was Jerry West ever convicted of raping a black woman*?"

    I would say that you are probably unqualified to answer the first question, unless, of course, you have worked as his manservant, since, at least his rookie year in 1960 (I don't know if blacks were allowed into the University of West Virginia at that time).

    (*Of course, that dude you are thinking of was never convicted of raping a white one either, but maybe you went from working at the Jerry West estate to the "victim's" hotel in Denver. That would be some coincidence!)

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @AceDeuce

    Yes, I went from working as Jerry West’s manservant to the victim’s hotel in Denver. However did you guess?!

  115. @Truth
    @Nicholas Stix


    Did Jerry West ever rape a black woman? No? Then he’s unqualified to be the league’s symbol.
     
    I think the question you mean to ask is, "Was Jerry West ever convicted of raping a black woman*?"

    I would say that you are probably unqualified to answer the first question, unless, of course, you have worked as his manservant, since, at least his rookie year in 1960 (I don't know if blacks were allowed into the University of West Virginia at that time).

    (*Of course, that dude you are thinking of was never convicted of raping a white one either, but maybe you went from working at the Jerry West estate to the "victim's" hotel in Denver. That would be some coincidence!)

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @AceDeuce

    Kobe’s rape hotel was in Eagle, Colorado, which is 125 miles from Denver.

    Yes, negroes went to WVU, the main Hidden Figures negress went to the grad school when Jerry West was in elementary school.

    If you or any other cuck needed any proof about the Kobester and his raping, go to the Smoking Gun website and check out the transcript of the Colorado cops’ initial interview with him. It runs 40 pages, give or take, and it gives an accurate portrayal of what a lowlife Kobe is. Not to worry, the White cops are more tender and deferential to him than most mothers are with their newborn babies. Kobe even cries when he’s caught in one of several lies.

  116. @anon
    If you're man enough to call it "Chinese virus", then be man enough to take the responsibility when Asians get beat up for the sentiment of hatred that your rhetoric helped rile up. I'm sick of Steve's incessant whining about whites being victims at every turn. Trump is responsible for this shit with all the hatred he riled up against China. Asians are racially distinct, easy to tell apart from other ethnics but don't easy to tell apart among themselves. All Asians are implicated by his racist rhetoric.

    Trump and his minion's demonization of China is worse than the left's demonization of Russia -- Russians are not as easy to tell apart. As I said I dare him and all those who continue to call this "Chinese virus" to also refer to HIV as "Black Virus", Ebola as "African virus", H1N1 as "Mexican virus". Man up! Otherwise you're just a craven bully going after easy victims.

    Saying UK "strain" or South African "strain" is totally different from calling it "British virus" or "South African virus". Anyone with any two bits brain can tell the difference.

    If you hate China so much, stop doing any and all business with China, ban all entry of Chinese, expel all current and former Chinese citizens from US soil, but stop with the demonization.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Ma Laoshi, @Nicholas Stix, @William Badwhite

    ban all entry of Chinese, expel all current and former Chinese citizens from US soil

    An excellent idea, though I suspect you’d keep whining anyway.

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