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From the New York Times news section:
Motive in Boulder Shooting Is Still a Mystery, Police Say
The gunman used a semiautomatic handgun that is essentially a shortened version of an AR-15-style rifle. He had purchased it legally six days before the attack.
“We, too, want to know why,” the Boulder police chief, Maris Herold, said at a news conference. “Why that King Soopers? Why Boulder? Why Monday? And unfortunately, at this time, we still don’t have those answers.”
By Jack Healy and Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs
March 26, 2021BOULDER, Colo. — Investigators searching for answers after the mass shooting in Boulder, Colo., this week still do not know why a gunman shot and killed 10 people at a crowded grocery store, the police chief said on Friday.
“We, too, want to know why,” the Boulder police chief, Maris Herold, said at a news conference. “Why that King Soopers? Why Boulder? Why Monday? And unfortunately, at this time, we still don’t have those answers.”
The semiautomatic weapon used in the shooting was legally purchased six days earlier at a gun store in Arvada, Colo., the chief said. That weapon, a Ruger AR-556 pistol, is essentially a shortened version of an AR-15-style rifle and is considered a handgun under Colorado law.
By the way, what is the gunman’s name?
The 21-year-old suspect, Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, was also found with a 9-millimeter handgun, but the authorities do not believe he fired it, the chief said.
Oh, I’m sort of picking up a clue, but let’s keep talking about guns if that’s what interests you.
Officials pledged to chase every lead and said they were working to determine whether there were any connections between the gunman and anyone in the supermarket. But they acknowledged the possibility that the gunman’s motives might never be known. It is not yet clear whether Mr. Alissa had ever been to the grocery store — which is about 15 miles north of his family’s house in Arvada — before the shooting, Chief Herold said.
“Sometimes you just don’t figure these things out, but I’m hoping we will,” she said.
… He said the F.B.I. and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were looking into the weapons that the gunman was found with at the scene “and other firearms in his possession,” though he did not elaborate.
A manager of the gun shop where the AR-556 was purchased, John Mark Eagleton of Eagle’s Nest Armory, said in a statement that Mr. Alissa had passed a background check and the sale had been approved by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
… Mr. Dougherty said the grocery store was still being analyzed by investigators, a painstaking process that includes going through every shelf of food and other items in search of bullets or other evidence.
Did Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa shoot at any particular kinds of food? Maybe he’s allergic to peanuts?
In response to a question, he said that the F.B.I. is still looking at any possibility of connections to international terrorism.
… The Times examined how weapons were obtained in 19 shootings from 2009 to 2018.
A huge sample of all the mass shootings in the U.S. from 2009 to 2018.
Many of the guns used in mass shootings are bought legally and with a federal background check.
At the state level, there is a checkerboard of gun laws that align with the partisan tilt of each state. While 13 Democratic-controlled states have restricted gun access in recent years, 14 Republican states have loosened their gun laws.
“At this point we don’t have any particular information to share in that regard,” he said. “We will continue to look into it.”
But those inquiries are part of a wide-ranging examination of any possible motive that still has produced no answers, he suggested.
“I think the victims’ families and the community are desperate to know the motive,” he said. “Whether or not we’re able to determine it remains to be seen.”
Well, I’m stumped too. But I’m sure that if we keep talking about guns, guns, guns, we’ll eventually stumble upon the subtle reason why Syrian Muslim refugee Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa murdered ten Regular-Americans.
English
Arabic
Chinese (Simplified)
Dutch
French
German
Hebrew
Hindi
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Spanish
Swedish
Maybe someone should, um… ask Mr. Alissa?
The killer's parents own a restaurant in Arvada. Right behind the
joint is the site of a mass shooting at a missionary training school in 2007.
That murderer was killed later by a security officer at a church in Colorado Springs.
“Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse. I mean, as long as I am not the actual casualty. That would be bad. Metaphorically bad, too. That would be good, you know, if I was not the casualty. But actually if diversity was? That would be bad, both metaphorically and actually, too. If you were the casualty? Metaphorically, that would be bad. But not as bad as if you were the actual casualty. And it would be worse if you were diverse, obviously, metaphorically and actually. In conclusion, black lives matter. Metaphorically. But actually, all lives matter. Metaphorically. I’ll take any questions.”
Diversity is our greatest strength.
Disregard any pattern which may cast doubt on the wisdom of this mantra. Seek out any other possible explanation to keep the dream alive. Gen. George Casey has shown the way.
Mentally unstable Syrian refugee would not shoot up innocent people if his family wasn’t able to immigrate, but he wouldn’t be able to do what he did without the access to weapons that he had. There is plenty of blame to go around here.
You're right, leftist. We should take away guns from the non-Whites that commit the majority of murders. Glad we agree.
Whites in the U.S. have a lower homicide rate than most of Europe, while Blacks have a higher homicide rate than some African nations, but of course you won't mention that.
Ahmad Alissa had ISIS sympathies and shot Whites. Of course you won't mention that either. But I don't think socialists are able to look for the real facts in any issue. You just repeat whatever your leftist media feed you.Replies: @Not Raul
“He hates these cans!”
Good one!
Turks camping near Constantinople. Motives unclear.
I thought CO was a gun state.
La Pierre always got it half-right when, after his perfunctory week of silence, he talked about a good guy with a gun. But then he discredited himself by reaffirming his support for federal background checks.
All federal gun laws violate #2, e.g. infringements. Abolish BATF.
That NYT article was sickening. I’m surprised the left-wing reporters didn’t attribute the killings to the bogeyman of Colorado leftists: the state’s Taxpayer Bill of Rights.
TaBOR, ratified in ‘92 but then weakened (of course) over the years, made it slightly less easy for politicians to impose new taxes, or to raise (presumably “good”, old) ones.
The result has been the unacceptable situation whereby Colorado school funding has been hindered in its divine right to rocket into the stratosphere.
REAL Americans!
It’s a riddle wrapped in a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a vest, to paraphrase Lisa Simpson.
I know this killers motives. He is evil, deranged and demon possessed. 90% chance he was on some psych drugs. He should be put in the express lane for the gas chamber. (thanks Ron White)
Just watch how all the wormy shrinks in the Justice System will swarm over this creature searching for explanations. All dubious shrinkology paid of course, in a massive waste for our taxes. Shrinks do nothing for free.
Aside from all those he killed. This critters trial and useless long term incarceration will cost at least three million dollars. When Zangara took pot shots at Roosevelt and Anton Cermak he was tried and executed in 30 days.
I'm sure the "wormy shrinks" will join the rest of the left in announcing that 3xAl is a victim of implicit bias; systemic racism; history of ________ and thus all non-POC need to pay and pay dearly for the damage done to him.Replies: @Clyde
Hatched from Christian do-gooderism, progressivism, modern "expertism" and shrink quackery. Now an ugly ball of grifting, rent-seeking lawyers, shrinks, bureaucrats. And, of course, now rife with minoritarianism and emotionalism.
The purpose of law--properly conceived--is not to "understand" or "rehabilitate", it is maintain public order. Basically to uphold the behavioral norms of the community/tribe/nation and provide conditions such that it can productively function and reproduce itself--avoid disintegrating into blood feuds and the like.
As JackD and other commenters have pointed out there isn't a magic bullet for stopping these killers.
Longer term returning to a normal healthy society--ending minoritarianism, ending immigration, return to patriarchy and normal family life--would be a huge win, chopping down the number of atomized angry young men.
But immediately, a more serious and male oriented criminal justice would help. No "understanding". No name up in lights. You are scum and described as loathsome scum. Speedy trial--there isn't much issue of guilt/innocence.
Then you are staked down near fire ant mound and midday sun. Victims relatives can piss or shit on you (or bring along for that purpose.) Then very slow boiling in oil. Just a toe. Brought back to consciousness, then a bit more. Public display--in the stocks. Some sexual humiliation. Maybe more boiling in oil. Final bit dragged through the streets, drawn and quartered and hung. Then remains put on a pole in your community for the crows and vultures to pick at.
If you want more of something ... subsidize it.
Want less ... make it unpleasant.Replies: @Jack D
Here’s a hint for the Times: five letter word that starts with “I” and ends with “slam.” As in, “I slam bullets into infidels.”
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.“ — Upton Sinclair
Incidentally, I’m starting to get the feeling that every branch of the Democrat base that’s clamoring for an end to the filibuster may have a good chance of screwing each other over, like a massed crowd that gets itself stuck in a doorway. It’s impossible to tell what kind of behind the scenes pressure the reptilian Chuck Schumer will apply. But assuming that the obstacles to ending the filibuster are Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, I don’t see making gun control or “civil rights” (read, teh bleggs) your issues to lead with are the way to convince Senators from states that are generally very pro-gun and each about 4% black.
https://youtu.be/1vrEljMfXYo?t=29Replies: @Thomas
Had he left a message explaining why he did it the media would still be searching for a “motive”.
The Orlando shooter interrupted his killing spree to call 911, explaining that he was an ISIS supporter avenging the death of an ISIS leader in Iraq. Yet the media buried this news and instead chose to portray the killer as a victim of anti-gay bias, even though he wasn’t gay.
I’m right there with you Steve, with “How to insert the Crazy Al shooting into the narrative”. I just figure his friends may well have called Mr. Ahmad Al Aliwi Al-Issa, either Crazy Al or Ahmad Triple-Al.
If you don’t know the song, or if you have chronic lyricosis like me, you may not have known these Paul Simon lyrics, but check out the verse here from Paul Simon’s 1986 song You Can Call Me Al:
Pretty weird, that. It even has a lyric about “Mr. Beerbelly”.
Imagine if you will...
From the name, I’d say he was a Christian Nationalist.
Steve, in conjunction with your theory on why African-American mass shootings leave so many more wounded than the deadlier Asian/White shootings:
Ammo choice. Is it possible gangland Hitmen cheap out on ammo and prefer using range rounds (full metal jacket) versus the more expensive (and recently impossible to find) hollow points. This would help explain why so many are hit and wounded, even while sitting in their homes blocks away from the shooting.
It’s a funny scene to imagine a Blood standing in the Ammo aisle at Cabellas having a retired-cop turned Cabellas employee helping explain to him what “stopping power” means in regards to purchasing ammunition.
He murdered 10 Regular, Non-Diverse Americans. Actually two of them had interesting sounding names, like they might have been immigrant names, but they both were probably Eastern European. Once upon a time that would have qualified them as more interesting than yet another black guy from the ghetto, but in the year 5 A.W. (After Wokeness) immigrants from Eastern Europe are just more boring whitebread people. What do they know about having to learn a second language or life under an oppressive regime?
But anyway….what are the odds, even in a Whitopia like Boulder, that the only people he came across to murder were white people? It would be really useful in determining his motive (as if we don’t already know) if we could see if he chose not to shoot at non-whites in the store, or just didn’t come across any.
Pretty much been scrubbed from the MSM.Replies: @anonymous
He came across plenty. Several neighborhoods just blocks away are 30%–40% Asian. Three federal national laboratories — the National Center for Atmospheric Research, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and National Institute of Standards and Technology — are in the neighborhood and employ thousands of Asians.
“And unfortunately, at this time, we still don’t have those answers.”
Well, not for a lack of the Police Chief’s social worker and diversity training:
When somebody tells me that they hate my guts and wish I was dead it is not something that sends my imagination off on any mystery voyage. I always just take them at their word. Saves time!
Ctrl + F for “gun” yields 19 hits within the article.
Ctrl + F for the terms immigrant, Syria, white, race, hate, Muslim, and Islam yields exactly zero.
Oh and they appear to have turned comments off for the article. Go figure.
Zero analysis at Washington post of the Arab shooter who deliberately killed 10 Whites Friday But endless analysis of the Oriental-shooting 2 weeks ago.
Where do the Muslims live in Boulder? Maybe he drove to an area where none live.
Did they ever come up with a motive for the Vegas shooting? I guess we’ll never know.
Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs = Such a horrible, long bogus. A rough, slobbering slouch. A slobbering ghoul chorus.
No doubt it was something haram. Perhaps the Rocky Mountain oysters? Hogshead Chin Wag ale?
They import Surly Darkness from Minnesota. He could have taken that personally.
Nah. It comes under things like agnotology, steganography, and other entries in Rex Sorgatz’s The Encyclopedia of Misinformation. It also has sections on gaslighting, red-pilling, the Overton window, etc., if anybody needs a refresher.
There are some typos in the table of contents. The best is “SHROUD OF TURING”.
The entry itself deals with the Shroud of Turin. However, there is another for the Turing test, so Alan is not left out.
The particular kinds of food sit up there on the shelf, all smug in their fancy packaging, just asking for it. But the four As guy should've just yelled at them. That's what I do.
It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. Who can even guess at his motive? He wasn’t even heard to shout the customary “allahu snackbar”.
Islamic immigrant ... but mad about immigration and Trump, and showing up this King Soopers perhaps to shoot Jews. (Otherwise kind of hard to work out why go to Boulder--not known as a hotbed of anti-immigration, Trump supporters.) Seems like, he managed to miss every single Jew in the joint and have a clean sweep of goyim--guessing, but believe i'd have heard about it otherwise.
-- Mass shooter bad
-- But Trump supporters very, very bad
-- Pro-immigration good
-- Immigrant good
-- Muslims good
-- Shooting a fellow minority, Jews very bad ... unless Stephen Miller.
There is a straightforward narrative here--Trump's tyranny drove him to it. But if it looks like he drove to Boulder and this particular King Soopers on a Jew hunt? ... then the verbal IQ required to make this narrative compliant ... well beyond what most journalists can muster.
But hey "AR-15".Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Jack D
Manchin is up for re-election in 2022. If he votes to end the filibuster and then they pass gun control, he better start playing this song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_West_Virginia
Lol at Steve & Boomer Co.
Boomers still can’t talk about the Oakland law earlier this week, with its defacto discrimination against Whites. Maybe it’s too much to handle? Maybe they thought they would be dead and gone before they saw this stuff enacted into law against their posterity? Bwut, bwut, bwut, demwacacy is the bwest system!
Nor can they talk about the California Supreme Court outlawing cash bail today.
Seriously, what a spineless generation. Here’s to hoping some new Corona strain runs the table on these dopes.
Well, I’m stumped too. But I’m sure that if we keep talking about guns, guns, guns, we’ll eventually stumble upon the subtle reason why Syrian refugee Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa murdered ten Regular-Americans.
Tis indeed a mystery, likely never to be solved.
But he must have practiced, no? Wonder if he had ear protection. It’d be weird to go into a building — an enclosed space — and start shooting without your ears getting blown out, ‘cuz you weren’t expecting the noise. True, it was a big building, but still.
If you don't know the song, or if you have chronic lyricosis like me, you may not have known these Paul Simon lyrics, but check out the verse here from Paul Simon's 1986 song You Can Call Me Al:Pretty weird, that. It even has a lyric about "Mr. Beerbelly".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bAReplies: @Cortes
A song referenced in “Hit and Run” by Lawrence Block. The guy who commissions the hit on the Black presidential candidate identified himself as “call me Al”; turned out to be a Wheeler from the Portland OR area…
Imagine if you will…
The gunman himself says his name is “Al Issa” but the MSM (and Steve!) insist that it’s “Alissa” or maybe Alyssa..
But at least you’re asking the important questions, Chief.
Funny how for certain killers of certain vics, the right people immediately know their motives, but other killers of certain vics, the right people are either at a complete loss, or have an odd sympathy for them (e.g., playing the crazy card for them).
Compare this Al-Al-Al incident to Derek Chauvin, of whom the press immediately knew planned and carried out the murder of G.F. (PHUH) and have repeated it at every chance.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/aeb0ad_9fca8c48fa7f42b4b09958bb085a4e5f~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_339,h_348,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/2020%20hogshead%20logo-01.webpThey import Surly Darkness from Minnesota. He could have taken that personally.Nah. It comes under things like agnotology, steganography, and other entries in Rex Sorgatz's The Encyclopedia of Misinformation. It also has sections on gaslighting, red-pilling, the Overton window, etc., if anybody needs a refresher.There are some typos in the table of contents. The best is "SHROUD OF TURING".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/2D80/production/_107884611_turingnote.jpg
The entry itself deals with the Shroud of Turin. However, there is another for the Turing test, so Alan is not left out.Replies: @Cortes, @SunBakedSuburb
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fifty
Whoa, I just had major deja vu.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/aeb0ad_9fca8c48fa7f42b4b09958bb085a4e5f~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_339,h_348,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/2020%20hogshead%20logo-01.webpThey import Surly Darkness from Minnesota. He could have taken that personally.Nah. It comes under things like agnotology, steganography, and other entries in Rex Sorgatz's The Encyclopedia of Misinformation. It also has sections on gaslighting, red-pilling, the Overton window, etc., if anybody needs a refresher.There are some typos in the table of contents. The best is "SHROUD OF TURING".
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/2D80/production/_107884611_turingnote.jpg
The entry itself deals with the Shroud of Turin. However, there is another for the Turing test, so Alan is not left out.Replies: @Cortes, @SunBakedSuburb
“Did Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa shoot at any particular kinds of food?”
The particular kinds of food sit up there on the shelf, all smug in their fancy packaging, just asking for it. But the four As guy should’ve just yelled at them. That’s what I do.
“Alissa” sounds Ashkenazi Jewish, or Russian, or maybe Spanish.
How did the killer spell his own name?
Here’s a hint for you, if you are interested in root causes:
Seven-letter word, first three letters are “Zio” and it ends with “ism.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty
A mix of taqiyya and realtalk, a welcome admission of US loyalty, trolling, or did his handlers insist on the first sentence? You pays your money and you takes your choice.
"Truth is so precious that it must always be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies" - Churchill.
"What is Truth?" - Pilate.
I think we should give the media a break on this one. After all, they haven’t even played the “Muslim community fears backlash after tomorrow’s shooting” card yet.
Perhaps the war on terror really is over!
Omar Mateen explicitly segregated whites from blacks telling the latter, “You people have suffered enough” but this didn’t figure into motive. Not sure how much clearer one could be than that.
Pretty much been scrubbed from the MSM.
“… we’ll eventually stumble upon the subtle reason why Syrian refugee Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa murdered ten Regular-Americans.”
Biden’s Bombing of Syria Is a Dangerous Step Backward
U.S. Airstrikes in Syria Target Iran-Backed Militias
Biden takes first military action with Syria strike on Iran-backed militias
Biden tells Congress Syria strikes are consistent with U.S. right to self-defense
I have the feeling that maybe we’ll never know.
I’m still stumped as to why he came up to Boulder from Arvada to shoot people at a supermarket. I know the lay of the land there, like the back of my hand, as they say, and I want to know why. Boulder is a separate and different place from the suburbs of Denver, where he lived.
Yep.
Hypothetically, pick the place on the Front Range where one is least likely to encounter an armed citizen...Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
I’ll help. We were overdue for another mass shooting by a crazy (fill in the blank) to keep the narrative going for gun control and more air strikes on (fill in the blank).
Conclusions:
1) We need to confiscate guns before midterm elections.
3) More airstrikes in Syria.
Oy vey!
Well, obviously, the impoverished Muslim immigrant living in the $800,000 house was trying to protect himself from white supremacists and neo-Nazis like the ones who committed “insurrection” against our “temple of democracy” Jan. 6.
Self-defense. Case dismissed!
Boulder is a separate and different place from the suburbs of Denver, where he lived.
Yep.
Hypothetically, pick the place on the Front Range where one is least likely to encounter an armed citizen…
https://www.colorado.edu/coloradan/sites/default/files/article-image/ed_rozek_1918-2009.jpgReplies: @black sea, @Joe Stalin
Presumably, this is NOT encouraging news.
Oh well.
you were rubbing your hands together after you pressed publish comment? Islam isn’t the root of the problem.
This.
Compare this Al-Al-Al incident to Derek Chauvin, of whom the press immediately knew planned and carried out the murder of G.F. (PHUH) and have repeated it at every chance.
LMAO, aren’t all handguns essentially a shortened version of a rifle? These fucking hysterics with their “military-style assault weapons” and such
“The gunman used a 9mm pistol, essentially a smaller version of the 50-calibre machine guns mounted on attack helicopters”
“used a shotgun, essentially a smaller version of the grapeshot cannons that Napoleon once used on rioting peasants”
“An AR-15 rifle, essentially a modernised version of the rifle that NAZIS carried when committing THE HOLOCAUST”
Suspect he saw himself as a soldier of Wokeness going to a foreign land to slay infidel/racist YT.
The magic words “semiautomatic” and “AR-15”.
No sign of “semiautomatic”. Must just be a regular old handgun where you pull the bolt open and slip a cartridge in each time.
AAAAI couldn’t have killed anyone with that! Besides no one ever dies from a 9mm … well unless shot by racist police.
But they know the Atlanta mass killer’s motive, even though Robert Aaron Long says he had a different motive.
Stephen Miller.
C’mon Jack, be fair. This is a legit toughy for the narrative.
Islamic immigrant … but mad about immigration and Trump, and showing up this King Soopers perhaps to shoot Jews. (Otherwise kind of hard to work out why go to Boulder–not known as a hotbed of anti-immigration, Trump supporters.) Seems like, he managed to miss every single Jew in the joint and have a clean sweep of goyim–guessing, but believe i’d have heard about it otherwise.
— Mass shooter bad
— But Trump supporters very, very bad
— Pro-immigration good
— Immigrant good
— Muslims good
— Shooting a fellow minority, Jews very bad … unless Stephen Miller.
There is a straightforward narrative here–Trump’s tyranny drove him to it. But if it looks like he drove to Boulder and this particular King Soopers on a Jew hunt? … then the verbal IQ required to make this narrative compliant … well beyond what most journalists can muster.
But hey “AR-15”.
Unfortunately, Al Issa is still alive and we will probably learn from him someday what his reasons were for picking that particular supermarket in Boulder. Since his mind is somewhat disordered (but not so disordered that he couldn't organize a plan to acquire weapons and a ballistic vest and kill 10 people) his reasons may not make a lot of sense to us, but they were sufficient for his purposes. It's not impossible that he had some specific beef with that particular supermarket - that he had felt that they insulted him in some way on a previous occasion or something like that.Replies: @Joseph Doaks, @AnotherDad
Maybe he figured that in a hipster-ish city like Boulder there was less chance that anyone would have been carrying.
Which location has a higher percentage of American Whites?
The NYT might be missing a bet here. Isn’t “Issa” (as in the murderer’s name al-Issa) the Arabic version of Jesus? Somehow connecting this Muslim terrorist to Christianity because of his name might be doing massive violence to the facts, but when has that ever stopped the NYT?
The police usually have nothing but contempt for the press and the public and they certainly don’t say what they really think about noteworthy cases of this kind.
In any case it is all idle speculation and chit chat at this point in time, and the question of what the real “motive” was will probably never be officially determined.
Very likely the defendant will be found not fit to plead by reason of insanity and there will be a long period of time while the state attempts to restore his fitness to plead.
Since he was apparently paranoid and lived in a predominantly white community, it’s not really surprising that his victims were white.
The motive does not seem to have been robbery or an attempt to make a profit, nor does it seem to have been an attempt at self martyrdom and going out in a blaze of glory and worldwide media coverage. Looks like he was just an old-fashioned lunatic.
fifteen minutesever."Seems to be incel/beta male rage. Legit the guy looks to be an overweight schlub in his 40s, but he is only a fresh 21. Maybe his parents lied about his age to get refugee status, dunno. Or he could just have really bad genes, which doomed him to a life of loneliness and resentment at the world.
I read somewhere that someone said that Biden’s bombing of Syria might have been what triggered him, so I’m just doing my part to help spread the rumor without personally endorsing that theory.
If you think that you have any future other than a concentration camp coming your way this story would throw cold water on your delusions. The cops have become pieces of shoot now. Where do you go for justice? There is simply no way this can be fixed. The whole cop crew is sticking their head in the sand at best. And at worst they actually believe what they are saying. In which case white genocide.
In any case it is all idle speculation and chit chat at this point in time, and the question of what the real "motive" was will probably never be officially determined.
Very likely the defendant will be found not fit to plead by reason of insanity and there will be a long period of time while the state attempts to restore his fitness to plead.
Since he was apparently paranoid and lived in a predominantly white community, it's not really surprising that his victims were white.
The motive does not seem to have been robbery or an attempt to make a profit, nor does it seem to have been an attempt at self martyrdom and going out in a blaze of glory and worldwide media coverage. Looks like he was just an old-fashioned lunatic.Replies: @you're doomed, @bomag, @J.Ross
yeah. like yourself.
This is similar to the decades long puzzlement suffered by the fbi after the El Al ticket counter at LAX was attacked by an Egyptian limo driver in 2002.
…not really OT since this is a subject that is always at the front of Steve’s mind:
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/03/26/chechnya-leader-ramzan-kadyrov-gay-purges-coronavirus-death-russia-vladimir-putin/
So far, so liberal.
I only he could restyle himself as a Hardcore Muslim Freedom Fighter Against [some dude targeted for regime change] to make the ludicrous headlines go away.
Well, Mavis, you could just ask the guy. AFAIK, he is still alive. He hasn’t been Einsteined yet.
Boulder is more Jewish than Denver.
But, yeah, I’d guess, as a commenter suggested, that Boulder is the least heavily armed place in Colorado. It’s definitely a safer choice for a mass shooter than is Colorado Springs.
Nor can they talk about the California Supreme Court outlawing cash bail today. Seriously, what a spineless generation. Here's to hoping some new Corona strain runs the table on these dopes.Replies: @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross
The Boulder massacre was an act of anti-White hate. They are talking about it.
Pretty much been scrubbed from the MSM.Replies: @anonymous
Anti-White violence. Say its name.
https://people.com/crime/orlando-pulse-shooting-tributes-to-49-victims/
He segregated whites from blacks and tried to spare the latter?
Based on the pictures of the victims and their names I'm going to have to say
No...and
No.
https://youtu.be/1vrEljMfXYo?t=29Replies: @Thomas
Manchin is up in 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_West_Virginia
We are commanded to always remember:
Diversity is our greatest strength.
Disregard any pattern which may cast doubt on the wisdom of this mantra. Seek out any other possible explanation to keep the dream alive. Gen. George Casey has shown the way.
You sound like a leftist, arguing we can’t do anything about black criminals, or homeless dope fiends, because “that doesn’t get at the root of the problem.” I’ve been reading this blog long enough to recognize that the interrelated issues of open borders and a zionized foreign policy are “the root of the problem.” Not every problem has to be discussed only and exclusively in reference to its root causes. It’s still worth noticing and knowing that allowing Muslims to reside in what their religion labels “the house of war” (that portion of the world not yet under Muslim rule) is unwise and predictably and invariably leads to violent death motivated by religion.
Anti white violence?
https://people.com/crime/orlando-pulse-shooting-tributes-to-49-victims/
He segregated whites from blacks and tried to spare the latter?
Based on the pictures of the victims and their names I’m going to have to say
No…and
No.
Yep.
Hypothetically, pick the place on the Front Range where one is least likely to encounter an armed citizen...Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
The thing is, people don’t understand the place like I did. Soldier of Fortune magazine was published there when I was there. A friend that I made TV shows with had parents who manufactured guns there. Yep, there was a gun company in good ‘ole Boulder. The truth is (or was, at least) that you could find anything there, and that was great!
We even had a political science professor there, Edward Rozek, with whom I spoke several times. He was a very patriotic American who would invite you to Thanksgiving dinner with his wife if you couldn’t get home. He had seen the worst of what communism creates. He was a great professor. (And I always thought he was CIA, which I thought was cool.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li9WbNKCwZMReplies: @Jim Christian
These dumb boomers imcluding Steve would rather spout cuckservative talking points about Islam than blame the Jews for destroying Syria, encouraging “minorities” like al-Issa to feel like they’re the victims of “whites,” and all the other factors that lead to anyone mass murdering strangers.
Count the tells.
1. 9 shot, 2 dead
2. Virginia Beach
3. Near midnight
4. “Impromptu Block Parties”
5. No photos or descriptions
6. No one co-operating with police
7. Mass media bored and uninterested
https://i.ibb.co/DDQsjKC/Capture-2021-03-27-09-02-51-2.png
More wypipos protesting for blacks.
To the woke, everything is violence except (woke) violence, which is speech.
Islamic immigrant ... but mad about immigration and Trump, and showing up this King Soopers perhaps to shoot Jews. (Otherwise kind of hard to work out why go to Boulder--not known as a hotbed of anti-immigration, Trump supporters.) Seems like, he managed to miss every single Jew in the joint and have a clean sweep of goyim--guessing, but believe i'd have heard about it otherwise.
-- Mass shooter bad
-- But Trump supporters very, very bad
-- Pro-immigration good
-- Immigrant good
-- Muslims good
-- Shooting a fellow minority, Jews very bad ... unless Stephen Miller.
There is a straightforward narrative here--Trump's tyranny drove him to it. But if it looks like he drove to Boulder and this particular King Soopers on a Jew hunt? ... then the verbal IQ required to make this narrative compliant ... well beyond what most journalists can muster.
But hey "AR-15".Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Jack D
Interesting. Al Issa (“of the family of Jesus”) was going to find him some Pharisees, just in time for Holy Week.
Just watch how all the wormy shrinks in the Justice System will swarm over this creature searching for explanations. All dubious shrinkology paid of course, in a massive waste for our taxes. Shrinks do nothing for free.
Aside from all those he killed. This critters trial and useless long term incarceration will cost at least three million dollars. When Zangara took pot shots at Roosevelt and Anton Cermak he was tried and executed in 30 days.Replies: @Jim Christian, @bomag, @AnotherDad
Well, Clyde those rapid executions were a long time back when citizens owned their courts. The DC Snipers killed 10 people and the ringleader of the two was put on rocket docket. His appeals were sent up ahead of all others’ to the various appellate courts, Virginia State Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court who affirmed his death sentence. With all that, it still took 5 years after his trial to kill him. His playmate Lee Malvo sits in Supermax to this day. He was but a hulking black yewt of ‘undetermined’ age and so he escaped the needle. There are teams of lawyers engaged in his appeals to get him a walk.
Seven letter word…?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty
A mix of taqiyya and realtalk, a welcome admission of US loyalty, trolling, or did his handlers insist on the first sentence? You pays your money and you takes your choice.
“Truth is so precious that it must always be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies” – Churchill.
“What is Truth?” – Pilate.
Ammo choice. Is it possible gangland Hitmen cheap out on ammo and prefer using range rounds (full metal jacket) versus the more expensive (and recently impossible to find) hollow points. This would help explain why so many are hit and wounded, even while sitting in their homes blocks away from the shooting.
It’s a funny scene to imagine a Blood standing in the Ammo aisle at Cabellas having a retired-cop turned Cabellas employee helping explain to him what “stopping power” means in regards to purchasing ammunition.Replies: @Jim Christian
Clark, good take. The only backstop hood rats consider is thin air. This guy Al was very disciplined. Virginia Tech shooter, same. The DC Snipers were in another class altogether. The Snipers aside (they were black), Steve’s theory, like many others, is spot on. Fire control is a While thing, a crazy Asian thing and for sure, crazy White-looking Muslim thing. Hollow points penetrate the shitty construction materials that make up residential housing these days. A .40S&W travels a mile. Cops send rounds out into the community all the time. Remember that UPS hijack in Florida a year or two back? 7 cops emptied two and three magazines each while surrounding the truck. Think they wrote some checks to those off-scene that were damaged one way or another? But for NDAs, the public would hear of these things. Every citizen should read the police trade publications and magazines. Shows what they’re up to.
Bullying is to blame, of course! He was bullied by People Without Color, so he snapped! Yes, that must be the reason!
Silly me: I thought the motive was to hurt and kill people.
Just watch how all the wormy shrinks in the Justice System will swarm over this creature searching for explanations. All dubious shrinkology paid of course, in a massive waste for our taxes. Shrinks do nothing for free.
Aside from all those he killed. This critters trial and useless long term incarceration will cost at least three million dollars. When Zangara took pot shots at Roosevelt and Anton Cermak he was tried and executed in 30 days.Replies: @Jim Christian, @bomag, @AnotherDad
Thanks for that historical note.
I’m sure the “wormy shrinks” will join the rest of the left in announcing that 3xAl is a victim of implicit bias; systemic racism; history of ________ and thus all non-POC need to pay and pay dearly for the damage done to him.
In any case it is all idle speculation and chit chat at this point in time, and the question of what the real "motive" was will probably never be officially determined.
Very likely the defendant will be found not fit to plead by reason of insanity and there will be a long period of time while the state attempts to restore his fitness to plead.
Since he was apparently paranoid and lived in a predominantly white community, it's not really surprising that his victims were white.
The motive does not seem to have been robbery or an attempt to make a profit, nor does it seem to have been an attempt at self martyrdom and going out in a blaze of glory and worldwide media coverage. Looks like he was just an old-fashioned lunatic.Replies: @you're doomed, @bomag, @J.Ross
“In the future, everyone will be crazy for
fifteen minutesever.”Well, not for a lack of the Police Chief's social worker and diversity training:Replies: @bomag
Reads like a parody.
https://www.colorado.edu/coloradan/sites/default/files/article-image/ed_rozek_1918-2009.jpgReplies: @black sea, @Joe Stalin
I spent a little time in Boulder in 1981. It was like some kind of Aryan Wonderland, with fit, tanned, and well-toned blond bodies running or cycling up and down the mountains, their immaculate white teeth glistening in the sun.
It made me feel pretty inadequate, and I was a rock-climber myself at the time.
AlsoThe FBI is currently deeply probing these utter mysteries.
https://i.postimg.cc/sxc3xHCN/special-agent-cooper-taking-a-break.jpg
https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3626554/ithaca-model-37-trench-gun-5.jpg
It's in Upper Sandusky now. It doesn't even rate regular Sandusky.Never mind bicycles, just walking in Ithaca will keep you toned. Look what it did to Ann Coulter's baby fat.
Could You Park Safely on the World’s Steepest Street?
Could better signs have helped? Official looks at similar Ithaca roads after Simeon's tragedy
Ulysses told tales about that land thousands of years ago. Beware.
Also
The FBI is currently deeply probing these utter mysteries.
https://s31242.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GettyImages-1198749619-1024x683.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZzoRj.jpegReplies: @El Dato
Actually he said “anyone who breaks the quarantine and infect others should be killed”.
So far, so liberal.
I only he could restyle himself as a Hardcore Muslim Freedom Fighter Against [some dude targeted for regime change] to make the ludicrous headlines go away.
She’s the real victim.
Very off-topic: Funnies censorship
From Paul Wilson’s story 1975 short sci-fi story “LIPDILEGGIN’”:
Today:
Paramount+ reportedly removes SpongeBob episode about ‘Clam Flu’ due to similarities with Covid-19 pandemic
"The gunman used a 9mm pistol, essentially a smaller version of the 50-calibre machine guns mounted on attack helicopters"
"used a shotgun, essentially a smaller version of the grapeshot cannons that Napoleon once used on rioting peasants"
"An AR-15 rifle, essentially a modernised version of the rifle that NAZIS carried when committing THE HOLOCAUST"Replies: @Jack D
Well in the same sense that a Honda Fit is a shortened version of a Mack dump truck.
The media are correct this time. The gun that he used is literally an AR-15 but with a shorter barrel than a normal AR-15 and with a “brace” instead of a “stock”. The latter is what makes it legally a ” large format pistol” instead of a “short barreled rifle” (rifle have stocks). SBR’s are specially taxed and regulated so it’s better to be classified a “pistol” for legal purposes but if you look at one of these they look virtually identical to SBR’s.
AR-15 “pistol” vs AR-15 “rifle”
AR-15 vs a normal pistol (Glock):
Early 19th century semi-automatic pistols would fit right in with braced AR-15 "pistols."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zcMNtvFjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlJ9qy_SCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DR2HCa9y4
Cartridge pistol with rounds in front of trigger guard; manual, not semi-auto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXHXXbAJ-lEReplies: @Jack D, @Sick 'n Tired
Therefore the NYT is being asinine
1. 9 shot, 2 dead
2. Virginia Beach
3. Near midnight
4. "Impromptu Block Parties"
5. No photos or descriptions
6. No one co-operating with police
7. Mass media bored and uninterestedReplies: @HammerJack
One more thing. The Daily Mail home page needs to watch its editing.
Islamic immigrant ... but mad about immigration and Trump, and showing up this King Soopers perhaps to shoot Jews. (Otherwise kind of hard to work out why go to Boulder--not known as a hotbed of anti-immigration, Trump supporters.) Seems like, he managed to miss every single Jew in the joint and have a clean sweep of goyim--guessing, but believe i'd have heard about it otherwise.
-- Mass shooter bad
-- But Trump supporters very, very bad
-- Pro-immigration good
-- Immigrant good
-- Muslims good
-- Shooting a fellow minority, Jews very bad ... unless Stephen Miller.
There is a straightforward narrative here--Trump's tyranny drove him to it. But if it looks like he drove to Boulder and this particular King Soopers on a Jew hunt? ... then the verbal IQ required to make this narrative compliant ... well beyond what most journalists can muster.
But hey "AR-15".Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Jack D
Although Boulder, because of the university, has more Jews than most places in Colorado, a Boulder supermarket is not really a good place to go Jew hunting, as Al Issa discovered. I really doubt that this was his reason for driving to Boulder. If that’s really your aim, wouldn’t you pick say a synagogue rather than a supermarket (not to give anyone any ideas)? Nor do I think he went there to go white people hunting. There were plenty of white people where he lived.
Unfortunately, Al Issa is still alive and we will probably learn from him someday what his reasons were for picking that particular supermarket in Boulder. Since his mind is somewhat disordered (but not so disordered that he couldn’t organize a plan to acquire weapons and a ballistic vest and kill 10 people) his reasons may not make a lot of sense to us, but they were sufficient for his purposes. It’s not impossible that he had some specific beef with that particular supermarket – that he had felt that they insulted him in some way on a previous occasion or something like that.
Yes! Unless he was part of a conspiracy or a terrorist cell --- and, remarkably, I have seen no speculation along those lines --- who cares?
The Pittsburgh synagogue killer was sort of the reverse of this killer. That a*hole was apparently--like me--pissed off about the refugee scam, and about Jewish pro-invasion activity. But then--genius!--doesn't go after say Chuck Schumer, or some NYT shill, or a Hollyweird producer of anti-white propaganda but shoots up some random Jews in ... Pittsburgh.
No synagogue or immediate Jewish connection one concludes--though Israel keeps the Arab-Jew thing omnipresent--that this a*hole's issue was more generically white people, anti-immigration sentiment, Trump.
But then "why Boulder?" Yeah it's a whitetopia. But it's well known as being more PC and good-white, ergo pretty anti-Trump. Plus as a college town has its share of immigrants and foreign students. Go outside of Boulder to any smaller city super-market and your generic white Trump voting percentage skyrockets. (Despite the demographic transition, Trump still got 40% of the vote in the state.) Heck, for Trump voting white people he'd probably have done better staying in Arvada.
Maybe he just didn't want to accidentally kill any of his friends or family and US36 was the easiest route out of town?Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
If they don’t describe the race, he’s black; if they cannot figure out the motive, they are admittimg that the motive was Islamic terrorism. Every single time.
In any case it is all idle speculation and chit chat at this point in time, and the question of what the real "motive" was will probably never be officially determined.
Very likely the defendant will be found not fit to plead by reason of insanity and there will be a long period of time while the state attempts to restore his fitness to plead.
Since he was apparently paranoid and lived in a predominantly white community, it's not really surprising that his victims were white.
The motive does not seem to have been robbery or an attempt to make a profit, nor does it seem to have been an attempt at self martyrdom and going out in a blaze of glory and worldwide media coverage. Looks like he was just an old-fashioned lunatic.Replies: @you're doomed, @bomag, @J.Ross
Way to not remember anything. All of his “friends” were alteady quoted in the last thread on this, talked about him constantly perceiving slights and explaining them as Islamophobia. Islam uniquely among the great world religions commands its followers to not tolerate perceived slights, especially those against Islam and its prophet, but also against oneself.
Unfortunately, Al Issa is still alive and we will probably learn from him someday what his reasons were for picking that particular supermarket in Boulder. Since his mind is somewhat disordered (but not so disordered that he couldn't organize a plan to acquire weapons and a ballistic vest and kill 10 people) his reasons may not make a lot of sense to us, but they were sufficient for his purposes. It's not impossible that he had some specific beef with that particular supermarket - that he had felt that they insulted him in some way on a previous occasion or something like that.Replies: @Joseph Doaks, @AnotherDad
“his reasons may not make a lot of sense to us, but they were sufficient for his purposes.”
Yes! Unless he was part of a conspiracy or a terrorist cell — and, remarkably, I have seen no speculation along those lines — who cares?
You’ve put your finger on the motive for the Boulder shooting. Whites make other races feel inadequate.
The “motive” is clear: the man was on Olanzapine of which one of the side effects is suicied–and its sister, homicide.
No doubt the Atlanta shooter was on a similar psycho-tropic drug all of which have those sister side effects.
The drugs they were taking for depression should be the story. Period.
Yes. This has been a recurring theme for over 30 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Gravure_shooting
Joe Wesbecker was on Prozac at the time he shot up the Louisville Courier printing plant. His shrink had been trying to get him off of that particular drug. One of the survivors recounted looking Wesbecker in the eyes and seeing nothing, "No one there".
The psychotropics can be useful, but they are not candy.Replies: @restless94110
Zyprexa weight gain
Yes, olanzapine is well known to cause weight gain by slowing down glucose and lipid metabolism, its a very effective drug though. Olanzapine is both very sedating and can cause extreme weight gain.Replies: @restless94110
Nor can they talk about the California Supreme Court outlawing cash bail today. Seriously, what a spineless generation. Here's to hoping some new Corona strain runs the table on these dopes.Replies: @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross
Your incisive analysis of our troubles is a generational one … and you call us spineless?
Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Paul Jolliffe, @Possumman
You beat me to it!
Nor can they talk about the California Supreme Court outlawing cash bail today. Seriously, what a spineless generation. Here's to hoping some new Corona strain runs the table on these dopes.Replies: @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross
… I’m sorry, were blacks in Oakland not already getting free fiatbucks?
Well, we did recently attack Syria.
Unfortunately, Al Issa is still alive and we will probably learn from him someday what his reasons were for picking that particular supermarket in Boulder. Since his mind is somewhat disordered (but not so disordered that he couldn't organize a plan to acquire weapons and a ballistic vest and kill 10 people) his reasons may not make a lot of sense to us, but they were sufficient for his purposes. It's not impossible that he had some specific beef with that particular supermarket - that he had felt that they insulted him in some way on a previous occasion or something like that.Replies: @Joseph Doaks, @AnotherDad
Yep. It’s a sketchy idea. I pondered the “why not a synagogue?” issue myself.
The Pittsburgh synagogue killer was sort of the reverse of this killer. That a*hole was apparently–like me–pissed off about the refugee scam, and about Jewish pro-invasion activity. But then–genius!–doesn’t go after say Chuck Schumer, or some NYT shill, or a Hollyweird producer of anti-white propaganda but shoots up some random Jews in … Pittsburgh.
No synagogue or immediate Jewish connection one concludes–though Israel keeps the Arab-Jew thing omnipresent–that this a*hole’s issue was more generically white people, anti-immigration sentiment, Trump.
But then “why Boulder?” Yeah it’s a whitetopia. But it’s well known as being more PC and good-white, ergo pretty anti-Trump. Plus as a college town has its share of immigrants and foreign students. Go outside of Boulder to any smaller city super-market and your generic white Trump voting percentage skyrockets. (Despite the demographic transition, Trump still got 40% of the vote in the state.) Heck, for Trump voting white people he’d probably have done better staying in Arvada.
Maybe he just didn’t want to accidentally kill any of his friends or family and US36 was the easiest route out of town?
This turd didn't want to be shahid, a martyr; he wore his ballistic vest while murdering the defenseless in case he were to encounter someone else with a gun able to end his useless, futile life, but took it off once people who could, indeed, were quite capable of killing his sorry ass showed up, and furthermore demonstrated their serious intent. He shed the vest, along with all articles of clothing excepting his underwear to show that he wasn't wearing an explosive vest.
Home free, to strut his puerile viciousness through the duration of a trial, glorying in his prowess in murdering inoffensive strangers.
Supermax time. Limit the chance another prisoner would take him out, make him live the rest of his life there, vicious coward.
Just watch how all the wormy shrinks in the Justice System will swarm over this creature searching for explanations. All dubious shrinkology paid of course, in a massive waste for our taxes. Shrinks do nothing for free.
Aside from all those he killed. This critters trial and useless long term incarceration will cost at least three million dollars. When Zangara took pot shots at Roosevelt and Anton Cermak he was tried and executed in 30 days.Replies: @Jim Christian, @bomag, @AnotherDad
You’re spot on here, Clyde. The whole modern “penal system” is a disaster.
Hatched from Christian do-gooderism, progressivism, modern “expertism” and shrink quackery. Now an ugly ball of grifting, rent-seeking lawyers, shrinks, bureaucrats. And, of course, now rife with minoritarianism and emotionalism.
The purpose of law–properly conceived–is not to “understand” or “rehabilitate”, it is maintain public order. Basically to uphold the behavioral norms of the community/tribe/nation and provide conditions such that it can productively function and reproduce itself–avoid disintegrating into blood feuds and the like.
As JackD and other commenters have pointed out there isn’t a magic bullet for stopping these killers.
Longer term returning to a normal healthy society–ending minoritarianism, ending immigration, return to patriarchy and normal family life–would be a huge win, chopping down the number of atomized angry young men.
But immediately, a more serious and male oriented criminal justice would help. No “understanding”. No name up in lights. You are scum and described as loathsome scum. Speedy trial–there isn’t much issue of guilt/innocence.
Then you are staked down near fire ant mound and midday sun. Victims relatives can piss or shit on you (or bring along for that purpose.) Then very slow boiling in oil. Just a toe. Brought back to consciousness, then a bit more. Public display–in the stocks. Some sexual humiliation. Maybe more boiling in oil. Final bit dragged through the streets, drawn and quartered and hung. Then remains put on a pole in your community for the crows and vultures to pick at.
If you want more of something … subsidize it.
Want less … make it unpleasant.
OTOH, if you commit a sin against Wokeness, then Woke society has no problem with swift mob trial and immediate career execution - from first Tweet revelation to firing is sometimes only a matter of hours.
The Orlando shooter interrupted his killing spree to call 911, explaining that he was an ISIS supporter avenging the death of an ISIS leader in Iraq. Yet the media buried this news and instead chose to portray the killer as a victim of anti-gay bias, even though he wasn't gay.Replies: @ginger bread man
Send a link to this please
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Mateen#Shooting_and_death
https://www.colorado.edu/coloradan/sites/default/files/article-image/ed_rozek_1918-2009.jpgReplies: @black sea, @Joe Stalin
Amazingly enough, Jewish Morton Grove, Illinois, which courtesy of Trustees Neil Cashman & Martin Ashman, passed a handgun ban (which exempted themselves as trustees) in 1981; they too also had a handgun manufacturer. (The anti-gun US & IL Judiciary upheld their ban.)
“Normal” only in the sense of “modern” i.e. cartridges in grip.
Early 19th century semi-automatic pistols would fit right in with braced AR-15 “pistols.”
Cartridge pistol with rounds in front of trigger guard; manual, not semi-auto.
The Pittsburgh synagogue killer was sort of the reverse of this killer. That a*hole was apparently--like me--pissed off about the refugee scam, and about Jewish pro-invasion activity. But then--genius!--doesn't go after say Chuck Schumer, or some NYT shill, or a Hollyweird producer of anti-white propaganda but shoots up some random Jews in ... Pittsburgh.
No synagogue or immediate Jewish connection one concludes--though Israel keeps the Arab-Jew thing omnipresent--that this a*hole's issue was more generically white people, anti-immigration sentiment, Trump.
But then "why Boulder?" Yeah it's a whitetopia. But it's well known as being more PC and good-white, ergo pretty anti-Trump. Plus as a college town has its share of immigrants and foreign students. Go outside of Boulder to any smaller city super-market and your generic white Trump voting percentage skyrockets. (Despite the demographic transition, Trump still got 40% of the vote in the state.) Heck, for Trump voting white people he'd probably have done better staying in Arvada.
Maybe he just didn't want to accidentally kill any of his friends or family and US36 was the easiest route out of town?Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
I think the reason already advanced, that Boulder had very restrictive gun laws, and was thus far more survivable for a mass shooter, makes sense, for starters.
This turd didn’t want to be shahid, a martyr; he wore his ballistic vest while murdering the defenseless in case he were to encounter someone else with a gun able to end his useless, futile life, but took it off once people who could, indeed, were quite capable of killing his sorry ass showed up, and furthermore demonstrated their serious intent. He shed the vest, along with all articles of clothing excepting his underwear to show that he wasn’t wearing an explosive vest.
Home free, to strut his puerile viciousness through the duration of a trial, glorying in his prowess in murdering inoffensive strangers.
Supermax time. Limit the chance another prisoner would take him out, make him live the rest of his life there, vicious coward.
Hatched from Christian do-gooderism, progressivism, modern "expertism" and shrink quackery. Now an ugly ball of grifting, rent-seeking lawyers, shrinks, bureaucrats. And, of course, now rife with minoritarianism and emotionalism.
The purpose of law--properly conceived--is not to "understand" or "rehabilitate", it is maintain public order. Basically to uphold the behavioral norms of the community/tribe/nation and provide conditions such that it can productively function and reproduce itself--avoid disintegrating into blood feuds and the like.
As JackD and other commenters have pointed out there isn't a magic bullet for stopping these killers.
Longer term returning to a normal healthy society--ending minoritarianism, ending immigration, return to patriarchy and normal family life--would be a huge win, chopping down the number of atomized angry young men.
But immediately, a more serious and male oriented criminal justice would help. No "understanding". No name up in lights. You are scum and described as loathsome scum. Speedy trial--there isn't much issue of guilt/innocence.
Then you are staked down near fire ant mound and midday sun. Victims relatives can piss or shit on you (or bring along for that purpose.) Then very slow boiling in oil. Just a toe. Brought back to consciousness, then a bit more. Public display--in the stocks. Some sexual humiliation. Maybe more boiling in oil. Final bit dragged through the streets, drawn and quartered and hung. Then remains put on a pole in your community for the crows and vultures to pick at.
If you want more of something ... subsidize it.
Want less ... make it unpleasant.Replies: @Jack D
Well maybe the anthill stuff is a little over the top (cruel and unusual punishment and all that) but a speedy trial and a swift execution is not too much to ask in such open and shut cases. As Clyde points out, we were still doing this within living memory. How did it get to be the norm that you would sit on death row for 20 years, if you are ever executed at all, no matter what kind of heinous crime you commit?
OTOH, if you commit a sin against Wokeness, then Woke society has no problem with swift mob trial and immediate career execution – from first Tweet revelation to firing is sometimes only a matter of hours.
In an (un)related development: 8 wounded, two dead. Yup, more white nationalism.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/27/us/virginia-beach-shootings/index.html
Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Paul Jolliffe, @Possumman
Only middle aged white guys (like me) could possibly get your joke from an obscure comedy from 1979.
Good one!
But anyway….what are the odds, even in a Whitopia like Boulder, that the only people he came across to murder were white people? It would be really useful in determining his motive (as if we don’t already know) if we could see if he chose not to shoot at non-whites in the store, or just didn’t come across any.
He came across plenty. Several neighborhoods just blocks away are 30%–40% Asian. Three federal national laboratories — the National Center for Atmospheric Research, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and National Institute of Standards and Technology — are in the neighborhood and employ thousands of Asians.
My husband and I were in Syria in the Spring of 2010, a year prior to the “Arab Spring.” We were with a small group and “to protect us” we had an armed, plain clothed government watcher with us at all times. It was a very scary place in many ways. At this time, Alissa was living in the US as he came as a small child, age 3 I think.
The way he behaves, he did not learn in Syria. I personally believe that he is mentally ill, perhaps paranoid. He assaulted his first victim at 18 which is about the age that mental illness displays itself. I think that he may well have been bullied about being Muslim but lots of people are bullied but they don’t buy weapons and kill people. Perhaps his family’s Islamic beliefs influenced him also.
His family came as refugees shortly after Bashir Assad came to power in 2000 after the death of his father. Syria was not at war. Why did the family get refugee status to the US? We don’t need any more refugees, Muslim or not.
There was one in Ithaca, too.
It’s in Upper Sandusky now. It doesn’t even rate regular Sandusky.
Never mind bicycles, just walking in Ithaca will keep you toned. Look what it did to Ann Coulter’s baby fat.
Could You Park Safely on the World’s Steepest Street?
Could better signs have helped? Official looks at similar Ithaca roads after Simeon’s tragedy
No doubt the Atlanta shooter was on a similar psycho-tropic drug all of which have those sister side effects.
The drugs they were taking for depression should be the story. Period.Replies: @anon, @Sick 'n Tired, @anonymous, @Clyde
The drugs they were taking for depression should be the story. Period.
Yes. This has been a recurring theme for over 30 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Gravure_shooting
Joe Wesbecker was on Prozac at the time he shot up the Louisville Courier printing plant. His shrink had been trying to get him off of that particular drug. One of the survivors recounted looking Wesbecker in the eyes and seeing nothing, “No one there”.
The psychotropics can be useful, but they are not candy.
It’s true that blaming an entire generation is juvenile. On the other hand, it’s depressing when the only people who are willing to defend White culture are 20-something underemployed White guys.
Take Nick Fuentes. He still lives at home with his parents. But in the past two years, he has gone from having a random youtube channel to having candidates run for Congress under the America First banner.
How is it that Boomers, with their monopoly on financial and institutional resources, couldn’t do the same over the past three decades? At some point, there is a Boomer Question that needs to be addressed, if only because White culture cannot afford a repeat of their generation.
The propaganda to which we were subjected, although different in many ways from that dumped on subsequent, younger cohorts, was still pretty overwhelming. The March Through the Institutions (hat tip Antonio Gramsci) was in full swing already; Hollywood, television, education, religion, etc. were rotten with propaganda aimed at getting us white people off balance, and as time went on, the active malevolence only ramped up. Those who didn't fall into step with the leftist/anti-white tsunami were at a great disadvantage, as all of the most powerful institutions lined up against them. "Credentialism" as the basis for acquiring social power was becoming ever more pervasive, but those who resisted the leftist surge were progressively shut out from becoming credentialed in the liberal arts and social "sciences". It's been a long downward spiral.
I'm sure the "wormy shrinks" will join the rest of the left in announcing that 3xAl is a victim of implicit bias; systemic racism; history of ________ and thus all non-POC need to pay and pay dearly for the damage done to him.Replies: @Clyde
I should have made it clear that Anton Cermack was mayor of Chicago. Was out campaigning with Franklin Roosevelt when Zangara shot at them, aiming for Roosevelt. Anyways, Cermack was killed. Zangara was tried, and was executed 33 days after his assassination attempt on Roosevelt. He got the electric chair in Florida that was famously called Ol’ Sparky.
Replies: @Yancey Ward, @Paul Jolliffe, @Possumman
I hope he didn’t start in the Asian food aisle! That would be racist.
Well the police better check for bullet holes in Cocoa Puffs and Brownie Mix also check for broken bottles of Mello Yello. Then we’ll know he’s a racist.
BULLSH*T. Guns have been widely available since the founding of the Republic, yet these mass shootings didn’t pick up steam since Columbine 1999. Semi-automatic rifles and high-capacity magazines have been mass produced in the U.S. since at least the 1920s Tommy gun. You can’t tie guns to mass shootings any more than crime to poverty.
“without the access to weapons that he had”
You’re right, leftist. We should take away guns from the non-Whites that commit the majority of murders. Glad we agree.
Whites in the U.S. have a lower homicide rate than most of Europe, while Blacks have a higher homicide rate than some African nations, but of course you won’t mention that.
Ahmad Alissa had ISIS sympathies and shot Whites. Of course you won’t mention that either. But I don’t think socialists are able to look for the real facts in any issue. You just repeat whatever your leftist media feed you.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Whites in certain states had a lower homicide rate than Whites in certain European countries; but your statement is shocking.
Early 19th century semi-automatic pistols would fit right in with braced AR-15 "pistols."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zcMNtvFjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlJ9qy_SCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DR2HCa9y4
Cartridge pistol with rounds in front of trigger guard; manual, not semi-auto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXHXXbAJ-lEReplies: @Jack D, @Sick 'n Tired
Early 20th century. Everything old is new again. Ever since Maxim figured out that you could use recoil force to eject and load the next round, it’s been hard to come up with anything fundamentally new and different. You can play around with the configurations (magazine in front of the trigger, magazine inside the pistol grip, trigger in front of the action, etc.) but it’s all variations on the same theme. Something will go out of style and then be resurrected decades later as if it was a completely new invention. In the case of the AR “pistols” they are driven strictly by the desired to get around the laws regulating sawed off rifles/shotguns.
The simple solution to mass shootings (in fact, the only solution) is for everyone to carry. And I mean, every one. At all times.
When every lunatic high on anti-depressants thinking about shooting up a supermarket, theater, campus, bar, restaurant and massage parlor knows for 100 percent certain that everybody will be packing heat?
Poof! End of mass shootings.
This would also work at all backyard parties and funerals in Chicago and Los Angeles.
In fact, as I say: it is the only thing that will work.
https://i.ibb.co/QPbRcTV/Capture-2021-03-27-09-03-22-2.pngReplies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Jim Christian
That mugshot is lightened compared to the real one, I’ve seen 3-4 of them and each one was lighter than the original, to make him appear more white.
No doubt the Atlanta shooter was on a similar psycho-tropic drug all of which have those sister side effects.
The drugs they were taking for depression should be the story. Period.Replies: @anon, @Sick 'n Tired, @anonymous, @Clyde
I would love to see the cocktail of psychotropic, anti-depression drugs many of these mass shooters are on or were off of at the time of their crimes. The media will dig into every little detailed aspect of their lives, except for that one.
Early 19th century semi-automatic pistols would fit right in with braced AR-15 "pistols."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zcMNtvFjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlJ9qy_SCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DR2HCa9y4
Cartridge pistol with rounds in front of trigger guard; manual, not semi-auto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXHXXbAJ-lEReplies: @Jack D, @Sick 'n Tired
Angel Eyes had the revolver version in “The Good, The Bad, The Ugly” trilogy.
You're right, leftist. We should take away guns from the non-Whites that commit the majority of murders. Glad we agree.
Whites in the U.S. have a lower homicide rate than most of Europe, while Blacks have a higher homicide rate than some African nations, but of course you won't mention that.
Ahmad Alissa had ISIS sympathies and shot Whites. Of course you won't mention that either. But I don't think socialists are able to look for the real facts in any issue. You just repeat whatever your leftist media feed you.Replies: @Not Raul
Where is the data on this?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Whites in certain states had a lower homicide rate than Whites in certain European countries; but your statement is shocking.
it’s very difficult to untangle the motives of the diverse and mysterious culture
The helicopter shot of the killer looked somewhat like Ron Jeremy walking towards a hot tub (albeit with a seeping leg wound and three cops hanging on him).
The killer’s parents own a restaurant in Arvada. Right behind the
joint is the site of a mass shooting at a missionary training school in 2007.
That murderer was killed later by a security officer at a church in Colorado Springs.
I love when Steve is a smart ass…..
Well, yeah, they’ve got to be very careful with that angle, as an overzealous devotion to investigative journalism might result in a hit to advertising revenue from…Big Pharma.
If they claim the motive was Islamic terrorism, the real motive was defense against Zionism.
No doubt the Atlanta shooter was on a similar psycho-tropic drug all of which have those sister side effects.
The drugs they were taking for depression should be the story. Period.Replies: @anon, @Sick 'n Tired, @anonymous, @Clyde
Is Olanzapine what caused Americans to kill hundreds of thousands of Muslims in their homelands over the past 20 years.
So Americans includes people from Russia, Turkey, Britain, Poland, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Saudi, and that One that I just can't think of right now?
What anti-depressants are you on, bud? Seek help.Replies: @anonymous
As a boomer, I hear ya, not that a blanket condemnation should be let stand, either.
The propaganda to which we were subjected, although different in many ways from that dumped on subsequent, younger cohorts, was still pretty overwhelming. The March Through the Institutions (hat tip Antonio Gramsci) was in full swing already; Hollywood, television, education, religion, etc. were rotten with propaganda aimed at getting us white people off balance, and as time went on, the active malevolence only ramped up. Those who didn’t fall into step with the leftist/anti-white tsunami were at a great disadvantage, as all of the most powerful institutions lined up against them. “Credentialism” as the basis for acquiring social power was becoming ever more pervasive, but those who resisted the leftist surge were progressively shut out from becoming credentialed in the liberal arts and social “sciences”. It’s been a long downward spiral.
Steve, as far as I know, does not blame the Jews for destroying Syria because he is not delusional and in fact the Jews did not destroy Syria.
The Sunnis are revolting against their Alawite overlords, much as Alawites have revolted against Sunni rulers in the past. The Israelis are just bit players trying to prevent the Iranians from building ballistic missile bases to rain ordnance on Israel much as Iran is using the Houthis to rain missiles on Saudi Arabia. People like you who ascribe your constricted view of the world on the Persians don’t seem to understand that they were civilized when your Northern European forebears were illiterate savages running around in animal skins. They spit on your bourgeois aspirations. Theirs is a world in which Persia ruled everything its armies could reach. Every ancient civilization is bemused at the decadence of the West and seeing an opportunity to rebuild and expand upon the empires they ruled in antiquity. Your aspirations for a quiet life are not theirs.
Common knowledge, but here ya go :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Mateen#Shooting_and_death
Classic jewish anti-White trope.
“Is Olanzapine what caused Americans to kill hundreds of thousands of Muslims in their homelands over the past 20 years.”
So Americans includes people from Russia, Turkey, Britain, Poland, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Saudi, and that One that I just can’t think of right now?
https://i.ibb.co/QPbRcTV/Capture-2021-03-27-09-03-22-2.pngReplies: @Sick 'n Tired, @Jim Christian
Dear Hemal is a Brahman Indian, the most racist group on the planet. She said “it’s always a White man. Always.”, clearly ignorant of the fact that it’s black men who are the shooters along with Muslims. And most of those black and Muslim shooters were always made into sympathetic victims who had their reasons. Well, I’ll take that tack. Of the relatively tiny number of White men who made the mass murder hall of fame, all were victims too. Of systemic racism in EEOCC hiring, of endless hectoring for being White, for being men, literally victims of Jewish-driven Feminism, Inc sexism and racism. Between the official rules of discrimination, the constant denigration, and now a generation of young White men is coming out of school having seen EVERY mention of White accomplishment diminished through the magic of critical race theory. They torment them with CRT from K all the way through college. These boys are victims, too, of virulent racism from THE SYSTEM that is now terrorizing THEM, even while inviting the world into their own country leaving less and less for them. They’re pissed for the same reasons blacks are pissed: unequal treatment, except blacks are allowed to burn entire cities down over their grievances, even with all the preferences given to blacks today, and glorification they receive to boot even as blacks murder Whites with impunity and scant notice in the reverse-racist media. White men suffer all this and the society has the nerve to ask why, having inflicted all this on White men, that they’re angry? And sometimes, people die. What do they expect but that White men are pissed off? Society is trying to kill them off and deny them any form of decent life. They’re pissed. They’re gonna explode in far greater numbers, White guys, some day soon. May they target a few who are to blame.
Funny, Time magazine did that with OJ Simpson’s mug shot except they darkened his face. Hell was raised over it, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li9WbNKCwZMReplies: @Jim Christian
That Rogak reminds me of a Ruger semiautomatic pistol a buddy of mine bought 30 or so years back. Stainless moving parts, aluminum frame. The whole thing seemed loose and rattley but it cycled every known brand of 9mm hollow points, even those stupid Hydro Shoks Federal put out back then. Compared to my Beretta it was a rattletrap but that Ruger was every inch a good dependable pistol. The test of a semiautomatic is the gun’s ability to cycle hollow points. Doesn’t seem like Rogak made the grade. Lotta competition in semiautomatics out there. Tx for the vid.
No doubt the Atlanta shooter was on a similar psycho-tropic drug all of which have those sister side effects.
The drugs they were taking for depression should be the story. Period.Replies: @anon, @Sick 'n Tired, @anonymous, @Clyde
Olanzapine (Zyprexa)
Zyprexa weight gain
Yes, olanzapine is well known to cause weight gain by slowing down glucose and lipid metabolism, its a very effective drug though. Olanzapine is both very sedating and can cause extreme weight gain.
Olanzapine may cause some people to be agitated, irritable, or display other abnormal behaviors. It may also cause some people to have suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
So a fat guy who shoots a lot of people (the mirror image of suicide). Yep, Olanzapine is the drug.
Yes. This has been a recurring theme for over 30 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Gravure_shooting
Joe Wesbecker was on Prozac at the time he shot up the Louisville Courier printing plant. His shrink had been trying to get him off of that particular drug. One of the survivors recounted looking Wesbecker in the eyes and seeing nothing, "No one there".
The psychotropics can be useful, but they are not candy.Replies: @restless94110
The disadvantages far far outweigh any good uses.
So a comment about mass shooters in the United States somehow has something to do–in your harried head–with US military actions in other countries?
What anti-depressants are you on, bud? Seek help.
Zyprexa weight gain
Yes, olanzapine is well known to cause weight gain by slowing down glucose and lipid metabolism, its a very effective drug though. Olanzapine is both very sedating and can cause extreme weight gain.Replies: @restless94110
From the Mayo Clinic:
Olanzapine may cause some people to be agitated, irritable, or display other abnormal behaviors. It may also cause some people to have suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
So a fat guy who shoots a lot of people (the mirror image of suicide). Yep, Olanzapine is the drug.
You left out a big one: Invasion of their homeland.
What anti-depressants are you on, bud? Seek help.Replies: @anonymous
You’d do well to educate yourself about the grievances held by a number of the Muslims who have committed mass killings in the United States.
When you are under the influence of these drugs, which have the side effects of suicide and homicide, any old excuse to go around killing people will do.
The ones that take that extra step are the ones that are on the anti-depressants, or have just gotten off them.
Don't change the subject. Insist that every story about whack jobs shooting up businesses and clubs have the shooters full pharmacology prominently in the story.
Isn’t Boulder an affluent community? Could well have wanted his victims to be what he considered “rich whites.”
You would do well to educate yourself to this fact. Everybody has their grievances about a lot of different things. But we don’t kill.
When you are under the influence of these drugs, which have the side effects of suicide and homicide, any old excuse to go around killing people will do.
The ones that take that extra step are the ones that are on the anti-depressants, or have just gotten off them.
Don’t change the subject. Insist that every story about whack jobs shooting up businesses and clubs have the shooters full pharmacology prominently in the story.
Really? NO mention that this store advertises about being a great place for Kosher products?
Nah, I mentioned it. It maybe gets lost in the list of all the ways the systemic racism has built against White men. The list is long, but distinguished, like my shoe size.
That’s all just legalities. The salient point is that a rifle is more dangerous, because it’s easier to shoot it accurately, and, worse, it’s more scarier, because it looks more like a DEADLY ASSAULT WEAPON
Therefore the NYT is being asinine