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From the New York Times news section:

Biden Effort to Combat Hunger Marks ‘a Profound Change’

As millions of Americans lack enough to eat, the administration is rapidly increasing aid — with an eye toward a permanent safety net expansion.

By Jason DeParle
April 4, 2021

WASHINGTON — With more than one in 10 households reporting that they lack enough to eat, the Biden administration is accelerating a vast campaign of hunger relief that will temporarily increase assistance by tens of billions of dollars and set the stage for what officials envision as lasting expansions of aid.

After all, Americans these days are so gaunt-looking. Here’s a list of synonyms for how skinny Americans are in 2021:

thin
scrawny
scraggly
bony
angular
rawboned
hollow-cheeked
gaunt
as thin as a rake
skin-and-bones
sticklike
size-zero
emaciated
skeletal
pinched
undernourished
underfed
slim
lean
slender
rangy
lanky
spindly
gangly
gangling
gawky
looking like a bag of bones
anorexic
anorectic
spindle-shanked
starveling

Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

 
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  1. The ag sector is one of America’s most important treasures, and this will only strengthen it. If you want to fight a trade war you’ll need to support our President and our hungry minorities; if not, by all means do what Putin and Xi want you to do — that is, vote Republican. They will happily cripple this country for a quick buck.

  2. The not having enough to eat is usually the last 2 or 3 days of the month. Most of these individuals will end up eating any increases in food aid earlier in the month. That’s why they’re be hungry, but still overweight.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  3. AKAHorace says:

    After all, Americans these days are so gaunt-looking. Here’s a list of synonyms for how skinny Americans are in 2021:

    If you only have enough money for food like macaroni and cheese or bread, you could be both undernourished and fat.

  4. El Dato says:

    “Black Hawk Down: America” edition soon!

    Will food be redirected from the White House doggos to malnourished mall rats?

    But this is not only not impossible, but highly likely. Relentless money printing, disappearance of manufacturing jobs and the increase of (high-child-count) underclasses does have effects.

    Here’s one from the UK, and that was even before the Corona Stress and Brexit-at-the-wrong-moment decision:

    British children go hungry on vacation without free school meals

    Millions of pupils who qualify for free school meals during term time are going hungry while on vacation because their families are struggling to cope with the rising cost of food, MPs and peers have warned.

    The All Party Parliamentary Group on Hunger says children are regularly living on crisps (potato chips) and energy drinks when school canteens close at holiday time.

    According to its latest report, compiled over the course of a two-month inquiry, an estimated 1 million children from the poorest backgrounds rely on free school meals.

    Dr. Philippa Whitford, vice chair of the group, said losing access to free meals could “simply be the final straw which overwhelms some families’ ability to keep their children fed and, particularly, nourished.”

    She also warned that being ill-nourished does not necessarily result in underweight children, but also in overweight ones.

    “Hidden hunger does not just result in underweight children … those who are eating a stodgy low-protein diet, with no fresh fruit or vegetables, can end up both obese and yet malnourished,” she said.

    Responding to the findings, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) said the employment rate is at its joint highest since 1975 [weird, eh?], while the number of children growing up in unemployed households is at a record low. [even weirder]

    It said £90 billion ($115 billion) per year is being set aside for working age benefits to create a social “safety net.”

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Lurker
    , @Alden
  5. Well, technically a person can look fat and still be malnourished. An example is kwashiorkor. But I would like to know who started this ‘Americans are starving!’ tosh because I’ve seen it used as an excuse for crime several times over the last year or two.

    • Replies: @profnasty
  6. Yes, if you actually wanted to improve poor people’s nutrition, you would enroll them in a special program where the price of food actually doubled. So those frozen pizzas would be 12 dollars each instead of 6. Under such a program, the 59 cent cans of butter beans would still be start looking more appealing–in addition to being more healthy.

    I’ve known people on SNAP and they were always sad getting off the program because spending other people’s money allowed them to splurge on expensive food they would never buy with their own money. When it’s your own money, you get the chuck, not the porterhouse. This behavior, of course, is the real goal.

  7. Who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

    Some of the millions of obese /and or – demented?

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  8. Nodwink says:

    Maybe they should start a racist blog, and then e-beg their way to a decent meal. A definite lack of entrepreneurial spirit.

  9. paum says:

    Speaking at the recent conference, Mr. Vilsack cast these efforts as part of a fight for racial justice. A former agriculture secretary under President Barack Obama, he called himself an “older white guy” and added, “I haven’t had the experience of being Black.” But he said an equity commission in the department would re-evaluate policies to ensure racial fairness.

    You white people could never understand our hunger; nor, mind you, could you ever sate it. White people.

    Reassured by a reporter that her benefit increase had not been a mistake, Ms. Kirby, the Indianapolis mother, recently returned to the grocery store where her shortage of funds had led to humiliation in the checkout line.

    This time, she brought her children, no longer afraid they would ask for food she could not afford. She bought the frozen pizzas she had been forced to discard in the earlier visit

    This is the fat white single mother shown in a photo from the article feeding her kids junk food. “We’re so poor we couldn’t even afford frozen pizza or even boxes of Cookie Crisp! Why must we starve so!”

    “I don’t even know how to explain it,” referring to her eased worries. “It’s like a physical relief. I just knew everything would be OK.”

    That feeling when the greasy cardboard-flavored pizza joins its innumerable relatives in your ever growing ring of belly fat.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @CCZ
  10. Mike Tre says:

    “Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

    The cloud people who read the NYT, for starters; maybe the NYT writes these pieces so the rich white/jewish ladies have something to talk about at the next Manhattan cocktail party.

    • Thanks: GeneralRipper
  11. As an Australian farmer I can only dream of the influence the US farm lobby has over the government.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Boomthorkell
  12. To be fair, in America poor people tend to be the ones with obesity problems. Effete coastal liberals are the ones in skinny jeans with zumba instructors and peleton workouts. Rural whites and urban blacks tend to be the ones with obesity problems, and self-reporting “my household doesn’t have enough to eat” is probably an attempt to say “we’re tired of eating the processed crap that’s killing us”.

  13. theMann says:

    “Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?”

    Do we really want to get into that?

    “Sneak Attack” on Pear Harbor
    Gulf of Tonkin
    Iraq caused 9-11, no wait, Saudi Terrorists, no wait…….

    The Covid

    Wa wa wa wa Wacism……..

    As a Nation, do we have anything left but propaganda, and do ordinary Americans believe anything else?

    In any case, food prices everywhere are going up rapidly, and that is going to be very unpleasant, very soon.

  14. Anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:

    Some are fooled, but the real point for the foolers is the sadistic thrill of proclaiming it, knowing you know it’s garbage, with the satisfaction of logical-rhetorical immunity

  15. neutral says:

    This has be from an April fools joke, are there really people in America who can seriously believe this propaganda? Especially if they use images of chubby people that are supposedly not eating enough.

  16. Altai says:

    OT: Chauvin’s lawyer is showing this image to jurors in the trial, claiming it shows that Chauvin had his knee on Floyd’s shoulder not his neck. It would be amazing to see the reaction if his bodycam footage exonerated him.

    And continuing the metldown and inability of the educated urban classes to articulate why borders are anything but oppression, the latest MCU show, ‘The Falcon And The Winter Soldier’ which has already featured a scene where world famous superhero Falcon is wrongly harassed by police with guns drawn, has as it’s villains a terrorist group, ‘The Flag Smashers’, who want to overthrown all governments and abolish borders. And, predictably, the types of people who are MCU fanboys, media and the actors themselves have a hard time explaining in 2021 why they are the villains.

    Here is a picture of the head writer.

    He was also one of the writers of the ‘Confederate’ tv show that never got made and is a writer on Empire. But anyway, it’s 2021 and we have TV shows about black superheroes being hassled by police with guns drawn and sympathetic terrorists who just want to abolish all borders.

  17. If tens of millions of Americans don’t have enough to eat, isn’t step zero not letting any more hungry mouths into the country?

  18. ChrisZ says:

    Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

    Clearly the “modal NYT subscriber” Steve captured so perfectly in his April 2 post, here:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-modal-nyt-subscribers-reaction-to-todays-capitol-hill-attack/

    Aside from being quite witty, that post showed (again) how the Times presents news primarily to excite the narrow prejudices of its readers.

    There are many such readers, and however credulous they may be, they are also influential. I expect to be hearing a lot from the great and the good in coming days about the scandal of American hunger.

  19. “If you tell a lie long enough, it becomes …….politics.”
    and if you have the sleezy media on your side it becomes reality.

    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
  20. Covid-19 death rates 10 times higher in countries where most adults are overweight, report finds

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/health/obesity-covid-death-rate-intl/index.html

    “In the US, close to three-quarters of the population is either overweight or obese, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention”

    Why aren’t we fat-shaming people instead of mask-shaming them?

    The team examined mortality data from Johns Hopkins University (JHU) and the World Health Organization (WHO) and found that of 2.5 million Covid-19 deaths reported by the end of February, 2.2 million were in countries where more than half the population is overweight.

    In an analysis of data and studies from more than 160 countries, the researchers found that Covid-19 mortality rates increased along with countries’ prevalence of obesity. They note that the link persisted even after adjusting for age and national wealth.

    • Agree: Forbes
    • Thanks: epebble
  21. Presumably, some of that 33 million is toddlers who go hungry because their mom’s out partying, or forgot to feed them, or figured if a slap to the head stopped the crying then they must not be so hungry after all.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  22. @Altai

    Chauvin’s lawyer is showing this image to jurors in the trial, claiming it shows that Chauvin had his knee on Floyd’s shoulder not his neck.

    I see no such thing. Chauvin’s lawyer is screwing up bigtime.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @sayless
    , @Anonymous
  23. donut says:

    They’re talking about the 33 million “Americans” who are headed for the border .

    • LOL: Kylie
  24. @theMann

    As a Nation, do we have anything left but propaganda, and do ordinary Americans believe anything else?

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987

  25. @Hateful Hornytoad

    More than 10% of households are on food stamps and SNAP pays about $5 per person per day, so many people may have the perception that they do not have enough to eat.

    Additionally I believe that the population in general has lost cooking and food preparation skills over the last several decades, and has become more dependent on expensive prepared pre-cooked or microwaveable food.

    Additionally it is likely that many poor people have relatively limited access to sources of fresh
    bread, fruitt, vegetables and meat, poultry, and fish.such as large supermarkets, and get a lot of their diet from convenience stores such as the Dollar General chain.

    I know when I was living in Jacksonville, Florida some neighborhoods only had so-called ‘food stores’ that mostly sold cigarettes, beer, lottery tickets, and potato chips.

    However it does seem unlikely that 10% of households are suffering from real malnutrition or starvation.

  26. slumber_j says:
    @Hateful Hornytoad

    Rural whites and urban blacks tend to be the ones with obesity problems, and self-reporting “my household doesn’t have enough to eat” is probably an attempt to say “we’re tired of eating the processed crap that’s killing us”.

    Obese people famously seldom think they’ve eaten enough: that’s a big part of the problem right there. If they actually self-reported not having enough to eat (a big “if”), it seems more likely to me that they were thinking of their personal insatiability.

    Anyway it’s the Cargills and Archer Daniels Midlands of the world that are responsible for the fake food that’s killing people, and I’m quite sure they pulled out all the lobbying stops for “hunger relief”–which will now be given to the mostly poor (as you correctly point out) obese people of the USA, good and hard.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  27. Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

    The same people who are fooled into believing that there are a lot of “hate”crimes committed against non-white people in America — and who ignore, or even support, the hatred against white gentiles that is growing now.

    The same people who believe that “systemic racism” is the reason why certain groups of Americans still can’t seem to climb the socio-econimic ladder.

    The same people who haven’t figured out that “disparate impact” is a logical fallacy.

    The same people who don’t believe that blacks commit vastly more crimes per capita than anybody else.

    The same people who think guns cause violence.

    The same people who think it is okay to restrict free speech.

    The same people who think the SPLC is a “non-profit” organization. The same people who think the ADL works for the good and was organized to do so.

    The same people who are unaware that most recycling makes no sense, that some of it is a scam, and that some of their stuff gets sent to China and dumped into the ocean.

    The same people who believe in “renewable energy,” who have no idea how much of their modern life depends on oil and gas.

    The same Tesla drivers who forget where the electricity that goes into the HEAVY batteries in their taxpayer-subsidized cars come from. The same ones who still oppose the nuclear energy that might possibly make their cars make any sense at all.

    The same lactose-intolerant idiots who think they are “vegans,” “non-gluten,” “organic,” and shop at Whole Foods.

    Etc…

  28. Anonymous[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    Get glasses..

    • LOL: Jus' Sayin'...
  29. Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

    I wonder the same. Who indeed is fooled?

    American poor evidently get more to eat than I do.

  30. tyrone says:

    Wait a second !…Jason Deparle forgot to say” WOMEN AND MINORITIES HARDEST HIT” !!… this white male must be fired immediately.

  31. On the next page they are discussing how Americans are the most obese nation on Earth.

  32. Perhaps 33 million fat Americans said what fat people often say.

    “I’m starving!”

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  33. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Normaly I would hardeeharhar on this because it is pretty ridiculous sounding. But a college friend went on to become an academic specializing in “food security” in the United States, and he’s pretty bright, so I thought I’d take a look at his blog:

    http://usfoodpolicy.blogspot.com

    Going into it my thoughts are:

    — Two in three Americans are overweight or obese, i.e. over BMI 25 and very few are under BMI 18.5, the cutoff for underweight.

    — I’m guessing that most underweight people are middle or upperclass women with eating disorders.

    — Weight comes from macronutrients, carbs, fat, protein. What about malnutrition from micronutrients? Is there a scurvy, beriberi, or pellagra epidemic? I don’t think so.

    — Schools are open to everyone, including illegal alien kids, and meals are served, breakfast and lunch.

    So who exactly are these people? Show me some statistics on region, employment, age, public programs enrolled in. Who are they? The US Food Policy blog seems to have nothing on that.

    Are we talking about illegal alien parents and black moms on drugs and their kids, if they don’t attend school? If so, it’s more of an immigration and “blacks are broken” problem than a food shortage problem. There are a zillion ways to get ahold of food, looking at that blog and other sources.

    These guys do the surveys of food insecurity:

    https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-us/

    This is how they define it:

    https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-us/definitions-of-food-security.aspx

    Food Insecurity

    Low food security (old label=Food insecurity without hunger): reports of reduced quality, variety, or desirability of diet. Little or no indication of reduced food intake.

    Very low food security (old label=Food insecurity with hunger): reports of multiple indications of disrupted eating patterns and reduced food intake.

    First of all, some portion of the “food insecure” aren’t hungry, according to that. Hmmm.

    Second, “disrupted eating patterns”? I know that some surveys of eating disorders include quesitons like, “Have you skipped a meal in the last month?” If so, and if you trip a couple of other switches, you have an eating disorder, according to the authorities. So if you go to the Cheesecake Factory once a month and skip lunch on those days (but nevertheless end up eating 5,000 calories) then you have been medicalized.

    This breaks things down a little:

    Frequency of Food Insecurity During the Year
    ERS analyzed responses to questions in the food security survey about how frequently various food-insecure conditions occurred during the year, whether they occurred during the 30 days prior to the survey, and, if so, for how many days. Findings include:

    – About one-fourth of households with very low food security at any time during the year experienced it rarely or occasionally—in only 1 or 2 months of the year.

    – For three-fourths, very low food security recurred in 3 or more months of the year.

    – For about one-fourth of food-insecure households and one-third of those with very low food security, the occurrence was frequent or chronic.

    – On average, households that were food insecure at some time throughout the year were food insecure in 7 months during the year.

    – On average, households with very low food security at some time throughout the year experienced it in 7 months during the year.

    So even for most of the food insecure, however loosely that is defined, they are not food insecure that often. Considering that so many are fat, and that most diets make you feel hungry, how is being food insecure different from an elite woman doing the Master Cleanse or other diet a couple of times a year?

    My suspicion is that you need to drill down into the statistics and find out what is real and what is analogous to “Cheesecake Factory anorexia.” And then, FOLLOW THE MONEY. What happens to the money dispursed to fight food insecurity? I suspect there are nonprofits that have six-figure administrators involved. There is probably a whole insecurity-industrial complex benefiting from these panics.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Jack D
    , @HA
  34. craig says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Damn right the population has lost food preparation skills. Women as a class deliberately scorned cultivating any of the skills that contribute to a healthy and happy domestic life, and stopped learning them at mother’s feet. Cooking used to be an essential life skill; now it is treated as a self-improvement hobby like exercise, taught via TV and internet and books and paid classes.

    And a lot fewer poor people have access to sources of fresh food than had it this time last year, since they burned and looted their local supermarkets in the name of “Social Justice”. No sympathy.

    • Replies: @TWS
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  35. @Anon

    Back during the Crack Years, I used to see emaciated looking people on the street in Chicago. They all looked like they preferred crack to food.

  36. peterike says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Additionally it is likely that many poor people have relatively limited access to sources of fresh bread, fruitt, vegetables and meat, poultry, and fish

    Why do people believe this nonsense? Then why do you always see SNAP purchasers in supermarkets that have ALL THOSE THINGS wheeling along carts full of junk? PS – Fresh bread isn’t healthy.

  37. Dumbo says:

    Even the homeless in the U.S. are fat. I remember once in San Diego watching a lot of homeless queuing for food distribution by some charity – they were not giving soup, but pizza. Most of the homeless were obese.

    In some government jobs, such as the DMV, being obese appears to be a requirement.

    I guess “not enough to eat” means eating too much junk food and being malnourished.

    But after “transgender rights”, “war on Covid” and “war on Russia/China”, the Biden presidency has found time for yet another stupid thing…

  38. Does on believe the NYT or one’s own lyin’ eyes???

    • Thanks: Lot
    • LOL: Alden, Adam Smith
  39. @AKAHorace

    You obviously have never bothered (or have selectively memory-holed) to notice some of the shrimp, pork chops, steaks, and potato chips (brand name tata chips, on a per pound basis are more expensive than fresh organic fair trade asparagus and artichokes) getting paid for with an EBT card by some lard-ass shopper in front of you in the check out lane.

    • Agree: Muggles
  40. Brutusale says:

    Every trip to the supermarket involves “noticing” those in the checkout line with their groceries. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone pay with the Little Blue Card (Massachusetts SNAP card) that didn’t have a healthy supply of sugar water in their cart. Like 180-pound 12-year olds need Gatorade because they’re so dehydrated from all the exercise they’re getting!

  41. People who want to be.

    It’s a fascinating thing. Church I grew up in had all sorts of meaningful ministries and now the people who go there hired a Prog who doesn’t even believe in God and his big thing is an obviously fake “hunger” ministry consisting of “food drives” where people drive up in their new pickups and fupas on Wednesday to pick up the food the congregation drops off on Sunday. They make sure not to be there when the food is actually given away.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  42. Dan Smith says:

    Note that the featured families in the article are headed by females. No sperm donor in sight. All in accordance with the destruction of two parent families begun in 1965 with the “war on poverty.” It was war alright, and poverty won.

  43. Just about every administration ritually declares “war on hunger” (as well as cancer). Wait til all those new food deserts suddenly get created this summer

  44. My wife and I volunteer at an inner city soup kitchen. Pre covid we used to make 125 to 165 lunches. Now we prepare 450 to 550 lunch-dinner combos. Drive on the I-90 into Cleveland and pass the sprawling new Greater Cleveland Food Bank, most larger cities have one. It’s not as if people aren’t trying to help. And, for what it’s worth, most of the food at the soup kitchen and food banks is donated as are the funds to buy food stock and supplies.

  45. CCZ says:
    @paum

    Money not just for frozen pizza, but those other dietary staples, Coca-Cola, Ben & Jerry’s, Lays Chips, Ritz Crackers, Haggen-Dazs, Pepsi, that are fighting “systematic racism” and “whiteness” and donating to blm.

  46. @slumber_j

    you nailed it. If you’re huge, you’re going to need more than what you get with SNAP to fill you up. And huge parents tend to have huger kids.

    I have lots of obese friends and they tend to be lots of fun. What do you think? Are fat people funnier and more sociable? They have no problem making fun of themselves, for instance. And sitting around and yakking and continuously slicing up more cheesecake is a wonderful way to spend an afternoon.

    Oh, and finally, don’t fall into the habit of blaming big corporate entities for people’s individual choices. If you’re fat, it’s on you, not someone else.

  47. Jack D says:
    @AKAHorace

    Chicken and eggs are both high in protein and as cheap as bread and macaroni. Vegetables are cheap too. If people are eating a lot of mac and cheese, it’s because they like it, not because they can’t afford more nutritious food. It’s like what Steve says – nobody is fooled except those who want to be fooled.

    The food stamp allowance for a family of 5 is $807. For the past year I have been feeding 5 people virtually every meal and we had all of our groceries delivered so I know exactly how much we were spending on food – it was right around $800/month. I made no effort to economize – we ordered whatever we cared to eat. We ate like kings. Nobody was undernourished, nobody was malnourished, nobody got fat, nobody got skinny.

  48. @El Dato

    “those who are eating a stodgy low-protein diet, with no fresh fruit or vegetables, can end up both obese and yet malnourished”

    I shop at a Lidl frequented by the underclass (there were two incidents of people legging it pursued by staff within five minutes on my last visit, though that’s exceptional. But they have security guards on Friday nights and weekends).

    Fruit and veg are pretty cheap – if you don’t want to peel, a kilo of frozen mixed vegetables is about 75p, less than a dollar, and apparently still full of vitamins. Fresh carrots are 40p a kilo. I love a processed sausage or burger as much as anyone, but you can get diced beef or chicken breast, fresh or frozen, at very reasonable prices. A wholemeal loaf is 45p or about 40c.

    It’s not shortage of money that piles some trolleys with ready meals, sugary soft drinks, potato waffles and chocolate mousse. All of these things have their place (as does take away food), but not day in day out.

  49. @Steve Sailer

    Nowadays everybody is taking some sort of antidepressant. One of the side effects of those is weight gain.

    I have a skinny relative who, as a ballerina, was way too thin. She was also depressed and anxious. The meds she got on enabled her to add 10 important pounds.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  50. @Buzz Mohawk

    That’s a lot of typing to say, “tards.”

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  51. Those who complain that schools are underfunded deliberately overlook the significant amount of tax dollars burned on “free” school lunches.

    (They count the credentialed-nutritionist as a teacher, I’m sure.)

    Public education. Great news for food service contractors.

    [MORE]

    I am so sick and tired of seeing “EBT accepted” signs at convenience stores. Some huge percentage of their sales — the junkiest “food” around — must come from EBT.

    At the grocery store checkout aisle, it’s disgusting to behold the contents of an EBT’s cart: An overflow of 2 liter bottles of sugary beverages, assorted sweets, frozen boxes of fried foods, meats so gross a dog wouldn’t eat them, etc. Those people look like they’re going to have a heart attack right in the parking lot.

    In stark contrast, the carts of after-tax paying customers are full of items like organic fruits and vegetables, fresh salmon, low-fat milk and poultry, etc. Those customers look like they just came back from the gym.

    • Replies: @peterike
  52. Anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I don’t know the methodology of the USDA food insecurity surveys, but would they be surfacing crack addicts? Do crack addicts talk to strangers on the phone? Do they return mailed surveys from the government? Do they even have stable addresses attached to their names and known to the government? Does the USDA send civil servants door to door in abandoned building flophouses?

  53. The modern world is incredibly complex, and offers an unprecedented range of choices, options and information. There are certainly millions and millions of Americans who lack the cognitive capacity to effectively negotiate our modern cornucopia in a healthy manner. Of course, by making it easier for them to breed, Biden is not doing society any favors long term. That said, I don’t see any political leader willing to grapple with the fact that the world continues to add millions of surplus human beings, who exist only to consume, every year.

  54. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Right – it’s Alice in Wonderland, where they have defined “hunger” to not actually mean “hunger” and lots of people make a really nice living off of this bogus definition. To me, this is an insult to the memory of my parents and all millions of the others who suffered true hunger in their lives. They are cynically playing on our natural sympathy for those who are truly starving in order to pick our pockets.

  55. @International Jew

    “some of that 33 million is toddlers who go hungry because their mom’s out partying”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9409313/Teen-mother-went-online-sell-concert-tickets-day-starved-babys-body-found.html

    A teenager who went partying for six days and left her baby to starve to death took to social media to sell concert tickets on the day her 20-month-old daughter’s body was found.

    The family of Verphy Kudi, 19, say they are ‘broken’ by the tragedy after the mother yesterday admitted manslaughter at Lewes Crown Court.

    Her daughter Asiah died in a flat at a ‘supported housing’ block in Brighton in December 2019 after being left alone for six days with no food or water.

    The baby died when her mother, Kudi, left her behind to travel to London, Coventry and Solihull in celebration of her 18th birthday.

    A post-mortem examination and forensic tests found that Asiah starved, was dehydrated and developed flu. Her cause of death was given as neglect.

    It has since emerged that Kudi, an aspiring Pretty Little Thing model, had attempted to sell concert tickets on Twitter on the day that her daughter’s body was found.

    Cameras showed Kudi leaving the building on December 5 at 5.39pm.

    She did not return until December 11, when at 6.06pm she dialled 999 telling a call handler her baby would not wake up.

    A few days later, staff at the Brighton mother and baby unit for teenagers contacted police after reviewing CCTV footage.

    I don’t think this is the kind of Black History they’ll be teaching in schools.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @El Dato
  56. ic1000 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz, not really OT, and in the spirit of your list, here is a seventh impossible thing to believe before breakfast.

    It’s NYT reporters John Eligon and Tim Arango explaining that Minneapolis judge Peter Cahill denied Derek Chauvin his constitutional right to a fair trial by quashing Chauvin’s lawyer’s motion for a Change of Venue.

    Looming over everything is a palpable unease over what the 12 jurors will decide in the trial of Derek Chauvin, who is facing second- and third-degree murder charges, as well as manslaughter, after being captured on video kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck for more than nine minutes in May.

    Many worry that an acquittal could set back the work that has been done to reform public safety and to attempt healing, and put the city right back where it was last summer with buildings ablaze and the streets roiling with anger.

    “People don’t have much faith that he’s going to be convicted,” said Pastor Brian Herron of Zion Baptist Church in the neighborhood Near North, the historic heart of Black Minneapolis. “I think there’s hope that he is, but we have seen this movie before. We’ve watched this movie over and over and over again. We can recite the lines.”

    You twelve jurors live in such a nice city. As friendly neighbors, we worry about you, your families, and your homes! Sure would be a pity if your votes again set our city’s buildings ablaze and again roiled its streets with anger.

    Those three paragraphs are in the middle of a l-o-n-g backgrounder that’s not about Chauvin’s trial, Ten Months After George Floyd’s Death, Minneapolis Residents Are at War Over Policing.

    One of Sailer’s insightful memes identifies Upside Down Reporting as a key element of the NYT’s corporate strategy. Here is an amusing explanation.

    Eligon and Arango reward diligent readers with key information; all they gotta do is scour the entire News Section. Meanwhile, the Outer Party subscriber base remains placid.

    What’s a catchy name for this variation?

  57. @Redneck farmer

    Anyone capable of applying for food stamps doesn’t run out of food the last few days of the month.

    Only homeless/semi-homeless people and drug addicts go hungry unintentionally.

  58. Jiminy says:

    Here a lot of uni students say that they struggle to have proper meals, after they have paid their rent. You also hear of single mothers finding it hard to feed their kids as well. But on the other hand a lot of people seem to spend too much money on takeaways instead of buying fruit and vegetables. Their excuse is that it’s just too expensive to buy fresh, which is hard to believe.
    About 2 out of 3 adults here are overweight or obese, which is similar to the US, so you wonder who really are the starving hordes. Food nutritionists have said that you can actually be malnourished if you live on a diet high in salty, fatty takeaways, which a lot of people do nowadays.
    I know by going by what my neighbours say, even though they have ongoing money problems and have trouble finding school lunches for their kids, they always seem to have money for drugs, booze, the pokies and mobile phones. All of the necessities of life.
    I remember my mum used to say that when they were kids they would have bread and dripping to eat. And I know my dads family used to eat small bandicoots and turtles that they would sometimes catch.
    I honestly find it hard to believe that people today can be dying of starvation in these lands of plenty.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Reg Cæsar
  59. @AKAHorace

    No you can’t. Not unless you eat pounds of Mac N Cheese and bread everyday, which approaches the prices of eating smaller balanced meals. Calories in, calories out.

    Plus, beans and rice are cheaper than bread and boxed Mac n cheese and few people will be malnourished on that. Spanish rice and black beans mixed with a little shredded cheese/salsa is cheap, tasty, and nutritious.

    • Agree: Muggles
  60. @Hateful Hornytoad

    Nobody is forcing them to eat processed crap. Rice, beans, chicken are all cheap. It’s their fault for getting fat off fast food and frozen pizza.

    A lot of rural whites and rural blacks are obese because they don’t drink alcohol, or drink little of it. I’m not kidding. Food is their vice instead and they have a warped sense of what size is healthy. I can visit certain rural Wal-Marts and be the thinnest adult between 25-65 in there, and yet I’d be probably be considered overweight in Asia and bordering overweight in Europe. Some of these rural people actually don’t even eat that much processed crap, just eat too much and too often.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  61. I think malnutrition is quite this prevalent among those millions, billions of Americans who by accident of history, of birth, and of course systemic racism are trapped outside US borders in their native countries. Like their ancestors before them since time immemorial.
    “American” is now a meaningless concept as a national category. It’s simply an ambition, globally.

    • Agree: sayless, Ragno
    • Replies: @sayless
  62. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:

    Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

    People who want their biases confirmed. For a start, Biden voters who want to believe that many bad things done by you-know-who are being reversed. Because he was a bad man! Bad! Their minds are made up and they do not want to be bothered with pesky facts such as “percent of Americans who are obese”, even though they can see this at the local stores.

    It’s an emotional need, not a rational one.

  63. ic1000 says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    People who live in Food Deserts are dying to buy more farm-to-table organic broccoli and artisanal parsnips. But greedy corporations refuse to allow them to draw down their SNAP balances with those purchases, instead forcing them into aisles stocked with Pringles, Hydrox, and frozen pizzas.

    I can’t think of a single explanation for why every Rust Belt City grocery store doesn’t have a Produce Section as extensive and well-presented as those at The Fresh Market.https://media.glassdoor.com/l/d2/0d/c1/b9/produce-department-at-the-fresh-market.jpg
    A commenter at Lion of the Blogosphere once noted (as have others, doubtlessly),

    The worst thing about being poor in present-day America is not material privation. The worst part about being poor in today’s America is having to live around lots of other poor people.

    • Agree: Gordo, Mark G.
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  64. fish says:
    @Steve Sailer

    They all looked like they preferred crack to food.

    They did.

  65. @stillCARealist

    Nowadays everybody is taking some sort of antidepressant. One of the side effects of those is weight gain.

    Not so fast, chum. I make a point of only taking depressants, and stick to a strict regimen.
    Bitter, stout, scrumpy, gin, rum, vodka, whisky (even bourbon at a pinch), and wine if I’m compelled to.
    I’ll admit it does tend to make one a touch porky, if you don’t watch out.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  66. Wilkey says:

    There is no reason whatsoever to go starving in this country. We have food stamps and WIC vouchers that provide more than enough for any reasonable person. We also have soup kitchens and food banks galore. If you’ve ever volunteered at a food bank you would know about the massive amounts of perfectly good food that are dumped on the average “customer.” Their only real compliant is that it may not be their preferred food or brand. But, to coin a phrase, beggars can’t be choosers.

    We’ve all grown up seeing pictures of people who are genuinely starving, almost always in Africa. How many of us have ever seen such a person in he United States? Not once in my 40+ years, and I’ve lived in about 10 different cities. The closest we get are anorexics and drug addicts, and they are malnourished entirely as a result of choice/mental illness/addiction. It is not for lack of food.

    People often say that healthy food is expensive, but its not that expensive. Frozen fruit isn’t too unreasonable. Frozen vegetables are even cheaper. Take a $5 tub of oatmeal and $8 for 3 gallons of milk and you’ve got the start of a healthy breakfast for 6 weeks.

    The only other people people we get who are malnourished are people who don’t (or won’t) eat right. If the Left genuinely wanted to fix this problem, they would make food stamps more like the Women, Infants & Children (WIC) vouchers that I guess are still around. They are designed to steer mothers to buy healthy food for their children. There are only certain types of food they are allowed to buy, and Coca Cola, pork rinds, and New York strip aren’t on the list.

    But the Left, in spite of their overall tendency towards authoritarianism, has repeatedly refused to turn food stamps into a WIC-like program. They fully realize it would piss of the 13% of the country (and 20%+ of their voters) that they so heavily rely on. Without those voters they are toast.

  67. Wilkey says:

    There is no reason whatsoever to go starving in this country. We have food stamps and WIC vouchers that provide more than enough for any reasonable person. We also have soup kitchens and food banks galore. If you’ve ever volunteered at a food bank you would know about the massive amounts of perfectly good food that are dumped on the average “customer.” Their only real compliant is that it may not be their preferred food or brand. But, to coin a phrase, beggars can’t be choosers.

    We’ve all grown up seeing pictures of people who are genuinely starving, almost always in Africa. How many of us have ever seen such a person in the United States? Not once in my 40+ years, and I’ve lived in about 10 different cities. The closest we get are anorexics and drug addicts, and they are malnourished entirely as a result of choice/mental illness/addiction. It is not for lack of food.

    People often say that healthy food is expensive, but its not that expensive. Frozen fruit isn’t too unreasonable. Frozen vegetables are even cheaper. Take a $5 tub of oatmeal and $8 for 3 gallons of milk and you’ve got the start of a healthy breakfast for 6 weeks.

    The only other people people we get who are malnourished are people who don’t (or won’t) eat right. If the Left genuinely wanted to fix this problem, they would make food stamps more like the Women, Infants & Children (WIC) vouchers that I guess are still around. They are designed to steer mothers to buy healthy food for their children. There are only certain types of food they are allowed to buy, and Coca Cola, pork rinds, and New York strip aren’t on the list.

    But the Left, in spite of their overall tendency towards authoritarianism, has repeatedly refused to turn food stamps into a WIC-like program. They fully realize it would piss of the 13% of the country (and 20%+ of their voters) that they so heavily rely on. Without those voters they are toast.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  68. @Charles St. Charles

    Charles, Charles, Charles, you must learn to dismiss the discomfort occasioned by maintaining contradictory thoughts in your mind.

    This is, after all, one of the corollaries to The Great Reset; if you can but Learn to Truly Know Nothing, Our Elites can be Truly Happy.

    Your being Happy? Meh.

  69. @YetAnotherAnon

    I’ve found to my chagrin that LiDL fruit’n’veg is not only cheaper (until the Brexit/plandemic blockades intervened) but much, much fresher than Tesco’s, Saino’s or even Morrison’s.
    Only Waitrose along with LiDL gets above the “in the (compost) bin as soon as you get it home” imminent putrescence bar.
    Don’t know about Aldi much (rare round here), and I don’t want to have to put on a dinner jacket and white tie just so I can visit M&S proper.

    LiDL’s meats, OTOH, do tend to make my blood run slightly cold. I have tried them, determinedly, but ..
    God knows where they get them from.
    Morry’s or Waitrose for that.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  70. @ic1000

    Thank you.

    Here is what I think is the most terrifying, to a white person, paragraph that you shared:

    Many worry that an acquittal could set back the work that has been done to reform public safety and to attempt healing…

    Nowhere in that is there any concern expressed for the defendant’s rights under the Constitution. He has a Constitutional right to a trial by an impartial jury, but the NYT is only concerned about setting back work that has been done, blah, blah, blah.

    And, right then and there, the writers go back to the threat of anarcho-tyranny:

    … and put the city right back where it was last summer with buildings ablaze and the streets roiling with anger.

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @Pericles
  71. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Millions receive Food Stamps (old name) via ebt cards. It’s easy to get it. There’s food banks and free meals at churches and schools have been providing huge amounts of food. Lots is wasted and thrown away by picky recipients. No one really goes hungry except children of drug addicts who sell the food and ebt benefits for cash to buy drugs. Druggies and moochers are in line at the food giveaways. Anyone on the inside of social services knows what a lie this hunger routine is. Your average person gets taken in by the hype.

  72. Off-topic, but On-topic for press credibility. WSJ article today:

    Violence Spurs Many Asian-Americans to Activism for First Time
    Atlanta spa shooting deaths and rising reports of hate crimes during pandemic have pulled in families who had avoided discussing race

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/violence-spurs-many-asian-americans-to-activism-for-first-time-11617701400?mod=hp_lead_pos10

    WSJ article does not contain the word “black” (or even “Black”).

    Currently 114 comments, and ALL BUT ONE have been deleted!

    The one remaining comment:

    I am an Asian immigrant. Having been in the US for more than two decades, I never felt unsafe until recent few years. And many of my Asian friends feel the same way. That’s why we want to stand up and speak out. We don’t like the hatred and misunderstanding towards Asian. We have worked really hard and paid our taxes. We volunteered. We donated to hospitals and police department to help them fight Covid-19. We are polite and friendly to others and we tell our kids to do the same thing. We try to be model citizens. However, we have been neglected, misunderstood and even hated.

    We are seeking our American dream just like everyone else on this land. I don’t think anyone has the right to tell us “You do not belong here”.
    Y
    Ye Wang42 minutes ago

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Calvin Hobbes
    , @res
  73. @Charles St. Charles

    The US is run by crazy cat ladies who ‘care so deeply about animals’ that they keep bringing more into their house to live knee-deep in filth and disease.

  74. When was the last time someone died of starvation in the United States?

  75. Wilkey says:
    @stillCARealist

    Oh, and finally, don’t fall into the habit of blaming big corporate entities for people’s individual choices. If you’re fat, it’s on you, not someone else.

    Yes and no. Mostly yes, of course. But I’ve noticed that some stores (cough, WalMart!) are really damn good at steering customers into the junk food sections. Or maybe they are just catering to their customer base. At WalMart the frozen pizzas take up a 100 foot aisle and the frozen vegetables only about half that length – and 90% of the frozen vegetable aisle is some form of potatoes. And of course they put the Twinkies and Ding Dongs right by the bread.

    WalMart may be cheaper on individual items, but one or two additional junk food purchases they trick you into making negates all of that savings.

  76. @The Alarmist

    Oh, come on, Alarmist. That was staged, man, had to be.

    Fake news. That’s one big-ass piece of fake news!

    OK, but seriously, my feeling is that the NY Times writers in question don’t go to Wal-Mart or anywhere like it. They go to Manhattan bars and eateries, NYC Chinese grocery stores, their psychoanalysts, and they gym. They may cross the country, with a view of all the other Americans … on the airplane, but then out of SFO to downtown to go to offices there, San Francisco bars and eateries, Chinese grocery stores, and the gym …

    That’s it.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Adam Smith
  77. unit472 says:

    When I am ‘hungry’ I eat food. I keep a lot of it in my kitchen. You can do this with less than $10 per day unless you want a steak or have someone else cook your meals. Anyone who is not feeding their children should be arrested and charged with child abuse.

  78. @Desiderius

    Indeed. Yours is an interesting interpretation of the concept as it applies to (some people) in our country.

  79. @peterike

    Fresh bread isn’t healthy.

    Way too many processed carbs in that stuff.

    I was looking at rolls and muffins in the supermarket bakery the other day and a sign said the hamburger buns had 280 calories.

    Madness!

    • Replies: @Alden
  80. @stillCARealist

    I have lots of obese friends and they tend to be lots of fun. What do you think? Are fat people funnier and more sociable?

    I’ve noticed a lot of morbidly obese guys tend to clown and yuk it up, likely as a means of compensating for their grossly distended bodies.

    It works.

    Most people lap up the cheap emotional manipulation and theatrics like mother’s milk.

  81. @Buffalo Joe

    We’re doing more than trying – we’ve funded belt, suspenders, and spandex waistbands with our treasure, time, and effort through law, NGO, and personal volunteering.

    At some point you’ve got to figure out that you’re all involved in an elaborate LARP rather than doing anything substantive.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  82. @Wilkey

    There will come a generation with the balls to outlaw the poison – Bloomberg was right on that one – and they will crush us all underfoot. They may already be here.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  83. After all, Americans these days are so gaunt-looking. Here’s a list of synonyms for how skinny Americans are in 2021:

    “Bread Stick In A Bow Tie” about Buscemi’s character in Boardwalk Empire said by some half Italian-American actor who is darn good and he married an Irish woman and people with Irish and Italian ancestry are thick on the ground on the east coast of the USA.

    John of Gaunt was born in Ghent in Flanders and the Gaunt didn’t mean slender.

    John of Gaunt brings up Inman, Bayne, Armytage, Bland, Hardin, Buttner, Stovall, Wilkins, Lampley, Paxson, Bezer, Withers, Lawrence, Russell, Kitson, Manners, Daubney, Donington, St. Leger, Hungerford, Kerby, Fox, Bailey and others.

    Those are the some of the surnames of my people.

    John of Gaunt and Robin the Bold and the Inman blood.

    Brings us back to Berkeley and Sailer and “They, They, They, They, They, They, They Call it Stormy Monday” and back to Jerry Brown and Tom Steyer and the killer of the beautiful Inman woman in Berkeley.

    Inman was the surname of the beautiful lady killed by Pablo Gomez in Berkeley.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  84. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:

    Accepting the premise that 10% of the US population “lack enough to eat” what is the distribution ? If I go to a city of 100,000 people and assume there are 10,000 people there who “lack enough to eat”, where are they? How can I see them?

    Suppose they are working min-wage jobs, many such jobs are visible to the public; retail, for example. Where can I see convenience store clerks, baristas, fast-food kitchen staff, big-box shelf stockers, etc. who “lack enough to eat”. With hotels reopening, where are the maintenance and cleaning staff people who “lack enough to eat”? If I go to a truck stop and look at the employees & customers, which ones “lack enough to eat”?

    Hmm.

    Maybe I can find them if I go to a smaller town, of 20,000 people. There should be 2,000 people in such a town who “lack enough to eat”, once again where are they? Drill down further to the town of 200, who are the 20 people who “lack enough to eat”?

    How many years have the various programs such as WIC been in existence? 60? 70? Adding more money to the existing, or maybe creating yet another layer on top is hardly “a profound change”, except to the deeply ignorant.

    Well, whatever. I’m sure this is totally fact based, because everyone in the Biden admin f’ing loves science, so there must be some obvious sciencey facts I’m missing. Anyone able to help me out? I know which way I came in…

  85. @AKAHorace

    What if you only have enough EBT money to trade with the local Yemeni shopkeeper for lottery tickets and blunt wraps?

  86. About forty years ago, when I was about 18 or 19 y/o, I broke my ankle playing pick-up basketball and couldn’t work for a couple of weeks. I applied for and was allocated an emergency 1-time allocation of $60 in food stamps.

    Over the past couple of months, I had been snacking on chocolate every afternoon at work, and put on an inch of fat around my waist. I’ve ceased the snacking and am now cutting way back on sugar intake.

  87. OT:

    Steve, remember how poorly it was working out for commercial air travel safety in the US that we employed highly trained white males who excelled as pilots in the military?

    Good news! Diversity will soon strengthen our weak pilot class!

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/business/2021/4/6/22369893/united-airlines-pilot-shortage-flight-academy-diverse-pipeline-training-scholarships

    United Airlines says it will train 5,000 pilots this decade, including taking on applicants with no flying experience, and plans for half of them to be women or people of color.

    All of those forged-in-fire elite military pilots trained at taxpayer expense who would love to slide into a six figure easy mode flying jobs in the private sector are rotting in the fields or something. A true shortage.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  88. slumber_j says:
    @stillCARealist

    Are fat people funnier and more sociable?

    The funniest person I’ve ever known has a long history of obesity, so quite possibly: it’s Falstaffianism, basically.

    Oh, and finally, don’t fall into the habit of blaming big corporate entities for people’s individual choices.

    I’m not in the habit of principally blaming anyone but individuals for individual choices, although individual choices are often influenced by environment of course. In recognition of this, public policy historically has tried to nudge people away from their worst inclinations. I’m pretty sure the agribusiness lobby has been doing all it can to reverse that in this case–under the fake-moralistic cloak of hunger relief, and all at taxpayer expense. I do blame them for that.

    • Agree: theMann, Desiderius
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  89. Brutusale says:
    @Jack D

    Exactly right, but you have to put forth a modicum of creativity and effort with the chicken and eggs. Pepsi and Frito-Lay make no such demands.

    We’ve definitely regressed in this. I don’t know anybody, black, white or other, preparing meals like the previous generations, other than a couple of obsessed foodie friends (whose intensely curated meals are as bland as anything out of a plastic container). With both parents working it’s difficult to cook every night, but I live in SWPLville among the stay-at-home mommies and DINKs, and they’re not cooking much, either. The Chinkey Flu has only exacerbated the takeout craze, first due to the fear of others that TPTB instilled, then to support local businesses.

    My lunatic girlfriend not only cooks at least six days a week but shops for the ingredients most days. It’s the way her immigrant grandmother did it, it’s the way her mother did it, so it’s all she’s ever known; three generations of accumulated knowledge of where to get the good stuff. My Covid 10 is due to leftovers.

    I probably should have prefaced this with a Boomer Alert.

  90. Re school “free lunches”:

    When I was in High School in the early ’80s, some of the free lunch recipients would sell their monthly free lunch card for $5, then just say they lost it and get another.

  91. @Charles Pewitt

    John Inman played the flamboyant Mr Humphries in “Are You Being Served?” I think it’s a Furness/Lancashire-over-the-Sands name mostly? He was from Preston.

    Daubney. Is that D’Aubigny or D’Albini??

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  92. @Nodwink

    “racist blog”

    Racism is the weapon of privileged persons who hold economic, political, and cultural power. Sounds a lot like the black ladies of BLM. Steve’s office is his closet. His work, whilst completely relevant in our happy time, is not eligible to receive any of that woke corporate cash.

    “A definite lack of entrepreneurial spirit”

    This is something that is missing from the overclass of colour: innovation brought about by years of grinding away at a trade or profession. The passport to success for well-fed and pampered BIPOC elites is their colour and the none too subtle threats of racial violence.

  93. craig says:
    @ic1000

    Echoing Glenn Reynolds’ observation about “anti-war” protesters:

    Social Justice Warriors are not “anti-lynching” at all, they’re just on the other side. The 2020s BLM’s preferred who/whom being an inversion of the 1920s KKK’s, SJWs are all for it.

  94. Jack D says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Verphy Kudi and the late Asiah.

    She was a victim of systemic racism, which afflicts all white countries. I hope that they give Verphy a very lenient sentence because she is not the one at fault – the system failed her. Perhaps her social worker could be held criminally responsible instead, assuming she is white – she is the one truly at fault.

  95. @Wilkey

    Frozen fruit isn’t too unreasonable. Frozen vegetables are even cheaper. Take a $5 tub of oatmeal and $8 for 3 gallons of milk

    Alright if you’ve got an American-sized fridge/freezer and haven’t been cut off by the utility co. Or blackouts.

    One of the main reasons Brit lumpens eat such utter manure is “fuel poverty”. Always has been an issue, right back into prehistory, on this grotesquely overpopulated island.

    Very much self-inflicted, but nonetheless real.
    Can’t cook, can’t heat their burrows, keep perishables fresh or even keep clean (particularly in winter, c.f. “can’t heat”). Better just buy some more ciggies (appetite suppressant) and Captain Morgan, and order in some Maccy D or kebab-shop munchy-boxes and cans of something hyperactivity-inducing for the kids.

    They would be arraigned if they tried anything other than Greeny-Approved fuels to try and cook their food or warm themselves. Even burning bits of scrap wood, paper, leaves, turf or animal dung in a proper fireplace or stove would have the (official) forces of Global Purity down on them like a ton of bricks.
    God help them if they found some coal, on the tip or at the beach.

    Gas and electric only, By Order. Now pay up.

    • Replies: @photondancer
  96. @Brutusale

    “obsessed foodie friends … intensely curated meals”

    How can you spend time around such people and not want to punch them into oblivion?

    “I probably should have prefaced this with a Boomer Alert”

    Yes, that would’ve been nice.

  97. @Altai

    Nothing says schizophrenia quite like blue eyes and ‘fro. See the DSM. These folks need to speak with one of William Friedman’s taxicab drivers and learn that America is the only country in the world where the poor people are fat.

    Uber has a gap in their corporate training.

  98. Anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, the *average* American woman has a waist measurement of 36 inches (!) .

    Not too long ago, this measurement would have been considered on the big side for a beefy six foot plus man. Now, consider that the typical American woman is 5′ 6″ or so tall, and half of them have got bigger waist sizes than 36″. Also, factor in that younger women are skewing the average lower, and your not left with a very pretty sight ……..

  99. @Dan Smith

    My grandfather used to say “When they declared war on poverty, I was the first one arrested.”

  100. Anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:

    Food Deserts …… Food Deserts ……. all is food deserts.

  101. @Jack D

    lel
    .. and speaking of “fault”, I never knew black females were capable of parthogenesis. Fairly intimidating if true.
    Or is there some other, alternatively-gendered black individual (going by the baby’s looks) we should be looking at, who is noticeable only by his traditional absence?

  102. Jack D says:
    @Wilkey

    But I’ve noticed that some stores (cough, WalMart!) are really damn good at steering customers into the junk food sections.

    Damn that WalMart! Not only do they steer you into the frozen pizza aisle but they beam special mind control rays to their customers which forces them to open the door to the freezer case and put stack of frozen pizza in their cart. Later on, when you get to the frozen vegetable section, the doors are rigged to administer an electric shock so no one ever touches the vegetables. (I wear a tinfoil lined hat and rubber gloves so it doesn’t work on me).

    Alternatively, WalMart has algorithms that allocate shelf space (especially in the freezer case where space is at a premium) in accordance with the demand for each item. If there is a lot of shelf space allocated to some category of food, it is because that category is really popular with WalMart’s customers. Based on the fact that the average WalMart customer appears to weigh around 300 lbs., that would be pizza.

    BTW, if you don’t want to be tempted by the junk food and are not eager to wait in line behind the sows filling their carts with junk food that they will pay for with their EBT card, WalMart has a free (yes completely free) service whereby you can order your groceries online and someone else will go up and down the aisles and pick the stuff off the shelf for you, so you can avoid even seeing the pizza case. The prices are identical to those in the store – you even come out ahead a little because if something is out of stock they will usually substitute a larger size or a brand name item. When your order is ready, you pull into a special parking space and they bring the stuff out and put it in the back of your car. If you get home and the tomatoes are not to your liking or whatever, you just let them know and they credit your account without quibbling.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @J.Ross
  103. @Jack D

    Thank you, Jack.

    Now, extrapolate your noted pocket-picking behavior along yet more Axes of Grifting, and behold that far-famed, All-American Spirit of Entrepreneurialism at work.

    When some behavior is incentivized, you get more of it, lots more. We have a Culture of Shamelessness going on. Here are some thoughts from Confucius drawn from Chapter Two of his Analects:

    The Master said, “He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it.”

    The Master said, “In the Book of Poetry are three hundred pieces, but the design of them all may be embraced in one sentence ‘Having no depraved thoughts.’”

    The Master said, “If the people be led by laws, and uniformity sought to be given them by punishments, they will try to avoid the punishment, but have no sense of shame. If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good.”

    We don’t have virtue as a qualification for our leaders, so scratch that. Depraved thoughts are assiduously promoted by our leaders, and “Kulture” in general, so oopsie. Punishment for transgressions is, well, spotty, so even that lower level of aspiration for social discipline is impeded. Lack of virtue, uniformity, and propriety makes the installation of anything approaching a well-grounded sense of shame (emphatically not white priviledge) as a social organizational principle a lost cause. The cost of nihilism is pretty high. Kung Fu Tze was no fool.

  104. Pericles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Here is what I think is the most terrifying, to a white person, paragraph that you shared:

    Perhaps it’s time to start feeling angry rather than afraid. A bit of fight instead of flight.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  105. @Buffalo Joe

    I know a politically connected (machine type), very left-wing person. It founded several social justice enterprises, including a city food bank (which it now chairs).

    The altruist lives in a very nice house. Its kids went to elite private schools, all the way through.

    [MORE]

    In ‘21-‘22, Chicago public schools expect to spend $6.9B, including:

    • $244M in USG (federal taxpayer provided) “free” lunches.
    $619M for pensions.

    Revenues:

    • $3.3B in local property taxes
    • $0.2B in other local sources
    • $0.1B from city gov (taxpayers), xfer to pensions
    • $1.7B in state direct funding
    • $0.36B in state “grants”
    • $1.2B from the USG (including CARES)

    Prior to virus, Chicago public schools (dis-) served around 355,000 kids.

    When CHI schoolies complain about how their schools are underfunded, they point to the state’s “measly” $7,200, direct funding per-student statistic.

    As you can see, the true figure is no less than $19,400 per kid, a number that still doesn’t count very costly (e.g. union scale) capital projects.

  106. @Achmed E. Newman

    I lived on the Upper East Side … in my view, the edge of the city started at the east side of Central Park, but this pretty much captures how a typical denizen of Manhattan views the world:

  107. Barnard says:
    @Jack D

    You can buy cheap prepared food also, there are cheap mac and cheese and other easily prepared food options like that. $807 a month is almost $27 a day. In addition to food stamps, any city of even modest size will have numerous programs or charities to provide food for people. The kids of the family in your example will be eligible for two free meals daily at school as well.

    Proponents of the hunger narrative quickly fall back to their lines about “food deserts” and “food insecurity” which if you press them for a definition on just mean these people can’t plan ahead more than a few hours. Someone should run an experiment, offer a person who claims to be food insecure a well prepared, nutritious meal delivered daily to their home for free for a week or a $10 gift card to the nearest fast food place. See how many take the gift card.

  108. @AKAHorace

    I’m posting here, early on this comment thread, because I’m both saddened and surprised that no commenter on this site up through the 93rd seems familiar with Auntie Fee. Any discussion of the food habits of poorer Americans should include at least a passing reference to this woman, the Julia Child of the ghetto. This is a typical example of her cooking videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIMCpevwTs. They demonstrate creative ways of using cheap, pre-prepared food products to generate meals that apparently appeal to the the USA’s Negro urban underclass. (I admit that several of her recipes had me tempted.)

    Do a search on YouTube for “Auntie Fee”. There are many other videos like the one just above. The videos are amusing. They give interesting insights into how the urban underclass gets by. Auntie Fee died in the past year or so. The outpouring of tributes suggested that she had a large audience

  109. @YetAnotherAnon

    Fruit and veg are pretty cheap

    Sure – provided you’re happy with inedible crap picked green and “ripened” on the way to market. I haven’t seen decent fruit or veggies in the supermarket for years. I have to buy it from the farmer’s market or from the Mexican guy who sits up a stand in town every summer. And it ain’t cheap.

  110. @Nodwink

    Starting an anti-white racist blog and e-begging raises more funds and quicker these days, and requires less actual research and thought. Competition for such positions is getting fierce in the MSM though. If you hate the outside world enough, one can even make the Atlantic Council!

    Remember that photo of the fat black woman in green asking the audience to PayPal her?

  111. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    The good news is that the Taliban will line up all the vendors of poison and publicly behead them. The bad news is that you’re including in that group.

    Bloomberg was not right. We don’t need a nanny state. I don’t want the government telling me what I can drink – we tried that once with alcohol and it didn’t work. I don’t want the government picking winners and losers and taxing certain items more than others in an effort to shape our behavior. I don’t want the government to shape my behavior according to their preference and picking my pocket while they are at it.

    What I do want is for the government not to be SUBSIDIZING junk food consumption. Anything that you subsidize you get more of. We are subsidizing obesity so we get more obesity. If there are poor people who can’t afford to buy their own food, then the government has every right to give them only nutritious foods or vouchers that may only be used to buy nutritious food. Beggars can’t be choosers. If the nutritious food that they get for free is not to their liking, then maybe they’ll be motivated to earn their own money and then they can buy whatever they like.

  112. @stillCARealist

    Cheap corn syrup and corn makes fat easy. That’s one government subsidy away from a more balanced diet.

  113. sayless says:
    @International Jew

    To be fair to Chauvin’s defense attorney: He’s by himself. Apparently he does have a junior assistant, but she only passed the bar within the last couple of weeks. The prosecution has about a dozen people and they can team tag, step in for one another if someone is feeling unwell or getting tired. (From the Legal Insurrection blog.)

    I give the man credit for being willing to take the case, really. The city of Minneapolis awarded Floyd’s family 27 million dollars during jury selection and reinstated the third degree murder charge.

    They wouldn’t even change the venue.

    It’s a show trial. Derek Chauvin doesn’t have a snowball’s chance. Hope I’m wrong.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  114. @Jack D

    Someone should ask the father about this — if they can find him.

  115. J.Ross says:

    I improved my life in many ways by dieting severely (by American standards) in “ordinary time” and enjoying indulgent foods only on “holidays,” which is what most of our ancestors did. Room temperature, no-preparation, budget friendly protein (say, tuna), flanked by fermented or pickled vegetables (say, a pickle — requires refrigeration until use but doesn’t make you deal with the workplace microwave) and dried fruit (WalMart is refreshingly helpful here, they also have a brand of freeze-dried chocolate-covered berries which I haven’t seen at other stores). Food fattens you but it can also impoverish you, in both time and money.
    These people are probably depending on restaurants until a working class or less paycheck runs out.

  116. Old Prude says:
    @Dieter Kief

    One aspect of the propaganda is to make the food pantries zones of virtue where the starving are fed. In reality they are places immigrants scam American suckers to give them free food.

  117. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Traveling I was once forced to discover in horror that in some places WalMart is the grocery store; I was delighted to be corrected finding that there’s plenty of healthy food at WalMart, if anyone wants it and is willing to step one more aisle.

  118. Old Prude says:
    @Hannah Katz

    She can turn her torso owl-like 180 degrees. Amazing.

  119. Dennis Dale says: • Website

    I guess the NYT is talking about our crackhead population.

  120. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @Calvin Hobbes

    On average, Asians are not protesters. In Asia, they just endure their crappy governments. The main problem is their Asian temperament. They are stoic, unemotional personalities, which means they just endure instead of complain. To complain means they lose face and stand out so they become the nail that needs to be hammered down.

    • Replies: @Shango
    , @TTSSYF
  121. @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t know Achmed. That photo might be staged, but it might be real. The isle seems too small for all but the smallest of walmarts.

    I was at Costco the other day and there were four old, overweight people in electric scooters in one isle. Two going each way. It looked a little like Mr. Alarmist’s picture but the isle was much longer and much wider. It was quite silly to see.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  122. DMS says:

    Steve, you underestimate how difficult it is to obtain 8,000 calories a day for most people.

  123. @Nodwink

    Don’t you mean a “rathisth blog,” nancy boy?

    • Replies: @Nodwink
  124. @stillCARealist

    There is a limited subset of people who appear to suffer from genetic metabolic issues, and despite best efforts they truly struggle to avoid obesity. One of my wife’s friends falls into that category; she is careful about intake, is definitely intelligent enough to understand that, but who comes from a family in which this seems to be a besetting problem.

    As so many here seem to be great believers in differing genetic legacies, recall that some racial groups evolved in an environment in which food was often scarce, and anything consumed beyond the needs of immediate bodily survival was laid down against future times of scarcity in the form of body fat, and suffer more from the overplus of unhealthful dietary choices promoted in our country.

    Yet we all, regardless of race, are confronted with this reality, but escape from the food propaganda is made difficult not only through the active disinformation, but also through the corruption of channels of reputedly helpful information, channels supposedly neutral, with distorted nutritional information now largely institutionalized through corporate capture of government agencies, and even universities and medical authorities. When Monsanto, or Cargill, and their ilk throw their weight around (heh), they get action that conduces to their bottom lines regardless of the derangement to sound nutritional advice and choices.

    Also remember that much land around major population centers of today was taken out of agricultural production to accomodate suburbanization. Local dairy operations which used to deliver really fresh products to a local area – even within cities – were killed off in favor of distribution through supermarkets. Similarly with local produce and livestock producers. The push to easily handled processed food also followed rapidly.

  125. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Norm der Ploom

    The elite wants food security– avoids potential Achilles heel and the cost is small potatoes.

    The subsidies are essentially a form of industry regulation. Govt putting hand on the scale of free market. An absolute free market will deliver those shortages because it overoptimizes and snuffs out redundancies. Becomes fragile. See: the recent power outage fiasco in Texas.

  126. Rahan says:

    Potatoes + cabbage + canned animal protein is super cheap and will not make you a tub of lard. It’s boring, but it’s a million times better than frozen crap and packaged snacks. And it’s super duper cheap. That’s all it takes.

  127. The only people who go to bed hungry in America are the stupid and children of the stupid.

  128. TWS says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Same with meth. I’ve worked with prisoners for decades either as a cop, probation officer, counselor etc and every single one that complained about having to steal food admitted they sold their food assistance for drugs. Now there are hobos who travel from office to office get the max bennies commit any number of crimes then move on. Walmart and the like are their favorite targets.

    Steal the minimum necessary to avoid a felony charge then either do the return items scam or sell the stuff. Super common.

    I had a senior citizen try it right in front of me while I was in my DOC clothes with my id on my chest in bum duck flyover state. I told the worker, “She’s robbing you.” He replied, “yup” as if were as common as green stamps.

  129. George says:

    IMO Children in public school got a significant portion of the calories from meals served in school. So I can imagine there being a problem caused by shutting the schools down. It is not impossible to believe that 1 in 10 Americans are having trouble maintaining minimum calories, especially during the pandemic.

  130. TWS says:
    @craig

    I had to learn to cook from my grandmother. My mom couldn’t cook to save her life. I made most dinners at her house from the time I was about eight. She never learned to cook either. Grown woman with a couple of masters and a PhD and couldn’t boil water.

  131. @Calvin Hobbes

    Currently 114 comments, and ALL BUT ONE have been deleted!

    All comments (133 comments, last time I saw) on the WSJ article have been deleted now.

  132. You people are the same people who said poor people weren’t starving back in the 1950s before food stamps. It really doesn’t matter what the truth of the matter is. You just need to find your little old time-honored way to politicize everything under the sun, from the sun itself to double-entry bookkeeping.

    But thank god this little c&p job proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that poor people are richer than rich people.

    Thank god for that at least.

  133. Mr. Anon says:
    @AKAHorace

    If you only have enough money for food like macaroni and cheese or bread, you could be both undernourished and fat.

    Yeah I read that in Michael Harrington’s The Other America 35 years ago too. It was probably BS even then. When Harrington wrote that book in 1962 there might have been some actual hunger in America. But now? Maybe among some homeless people, but other than that? Does anybody in America act hungry? When they break into stores during a riot, do they steal bread? No, they’re boosting liquor, TVs, and athletic shoes.

  134. When the debt bubble collapses, there will be 330 million people lacking enough food. But have no fear, our wonderful, woke government will prioritize who get rations. The keywords will be equity, reparations, revenge and genocide.

    I’m sure novel coronavirus 19 is real just as I am sure it was created in a bioweapons lab, and not in China, either. I suspect that the mRNA vaccines do more than provide protection against the virus; possibilities range from prions to creating a pathway for novel coronavirus 21, which would be more lethal by design.

    The root problem is not enough resources to sustain the population. Historically, that problem is solved by one tribe annihilating a competing tribe. In the current situation the tribes are intermingled; a lethal coronavirus made more lethal through gene therapy masquerading as a vaccine solves that problem.

    As stated by Gail Tverberg on March 25:

    The real story is that the world economy has reached “Limits to Growth.” There is too much population relative to resources that can be extracted in a given week, month or year. The return on human labor has fallen too low. This low return on human labor leads to what we call wage disparity. A factory worker or farmer in Africa or India earns a whole lot less than most people in the US or Europe. Even within the rich countries there is a lot of wage disparity.

    The pandemic has allowed governments to provide fixes to the “not enough energy to go around” problem, while they loudly proclaim that what they are providing is fixes to the COVID-19 problem.

  135. Fat asses are always hungry.

  136. Lurker says:
    @El Dato

    Millions of pupils who qualify for free school meals during term time

    More likely to be non-white immigrants and descendants per capita. In short: pay up whitey.

  137. Alden says:
    @El Dato

    Last time I went into a 7-11 to use the ATM because it’s free for my bank, I noticed the 1.75 Oz bags of potato chips are now $2.29. That comes to $25.00 a pound as best I can figure as I really don’t know how to convert cost per 1.75 ounces to cost per pound.

    At the local high end supermarket a 3 pound bag of raw potatoes is $3.00sometimes $2.50 or .75.
    99 cent store $1.00 for a 3 pound bag of potatoes. Low end supermarket $2.50 a 5 pound bag of potatoes. Those 5 pound bags of frozen hash browns and French fries cost more but are very cheap compared to small bags of potato chips.

    Question Why can’t the Mother’s buy raw potatoes and cook them for the kids? Boiling and frying might be too difficult but sticking potatoes into an oven or microwave is very very simple. The bags of frozen ones have directions on the bag. How hard can it be?

    The local Jewish Community news paper had one of those slobbering articles about how a poor black woman had to take the bus ( gasp in horror and dismay) to buy a couple weeks worth of food with the EBT card. The idiot bought several cans of baked beans.

    Bags of dried beans are very very cheap about $2.00 for a 14 Oz bag. And dried beans boil up to about 3 cups cooked for 1 cup of dried beans. And you can flavor them as you wish instead of that weird chemical taste.

    Recipe for delicious garbanzos . Boil then simmer till soft enough to eat. It takes a long time. Prepare salad , walnut or olive oil with fresh garlic squished in and a little salt in a flat bottomed serving dish. Flat bottom makes it easier to marinate the garbanzos . Drain garbanzos While still very hot pour in dish and stir around in the garlic oil. Eat warm or cold Keep in fridge to add to salads .

    Use the French proportion of just a little oil and throughly mix many times instead of the American proportion of drowning salad in dressing

  138. Alden says:

    Food is about the only thing the USA still manufactures. And it’s very profitable. The reason all the gas stations no longer do repairs is that the gas companies forced the franchise operators to switch to selling candy and chips. The chips and candy make a massive profit compared to auto repair.

    Thinking of junk food, don’t forget to boycott Coke.

  139. Forbes says:
    @AKAHorace

    they lack enough to eat

    Seems a pretty amorphous measure. When the #1 long-term health problem is overweight/obesity, leading to diabetes, high blood pressure/hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and other problems, including more severe C-19 symptoms, this is the tail wagging the dog.

  140. @Sparkling Wiggle

    When was the last time someone died of starvation in the United States?

    Karen Carpenter?

    (too soon??)

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  141. @Charles St. Charles

    Our invaders don’t look like they have ever been hungry. I guess the chubby look goes with their shiny new footwear and cellphones.

    • Replies: @Charles St. Charles
  142. @Wilkey

    Regional tastes may vary.

    In my local Walmart in North Florida they always have nonfrozen freshly made pizzas available which are better value and quality than the frozen ones.

    Frozen pizzas are also available, but in much more limited quantities than described above.

    My preference is to get the basic tomato and cheese pizza and then add herbs and toppings to your taste at home, bake, and enjoy. This is not much more expensive than making it from scratch yourself, and a lot less work.

    One of the great Walmart deals is a ready-cooked rotisserie chicken for $5 (maybe a different price where you live.)

    Okay it is one of those factory produced chickens that is all water and loses its weight after being cooked, but you still get a decent amount of tasty breast meat and the remains of the chicken carcass that can be used to make soup stock for another day.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  143. Muggles says:

    “More than 1 in 10 households report…”

    Yes, you can then claim almost anything is true.

    No clean laundry!

    Someone sick!

    Always broke!

    etc.

    I’m sure the author was careful to balance this “news” with data from health authorities about the Obesity Epidemic and data showing the ever growing fattening of America’s children.

    Any “hunger” or lack of food is situational. You are too doped up or drunk to shop for food for your kids. Or didn’t make it to the free food pantry because you had to bail out your “life partner” again.

    Etc. Some are anorectic. Deliberate. Long time hard core alcoholics and drug users are often skeletal since this abuse deadens normal hunger pangs. Sure there are isolated households where the adults are too lazy to obtain food. Some maybe very old and “out of it.”

    But food is abundant (so far despite now communist rule) and fatness kills far more than hunger.

    I guess in the NYT newsroom they have special mirrors where when you gaze into them, you find yourself in some dystopia like N. Korea, surrounded by KKK members burning crosses, starving children at your feet. That’ll get you pumped up for the latest Narrative screed you pump out. At the top, a helpful first sentence is provided “Due to policies pushed by Trump and the GOP we now have …”

  144. @AKAHorace

    After all, Americans these days are so gaunt-looking. Here’s a list of synonyms for how skinny Americans are in 2021:

    If you only have enough money for food like macaroni and cheese or bread, you could be both undernourished and fat.

    On an inflated adjusted basis food is actually cheaper than it was in the 1970s. Most everything else (housing, healthcare, post-secondary education, etc.) is more expensive.

    What these people seem to be complaining of isn’t a lack of food, but a lack of money/vouchers at the end of the month to buy the food that they want after they’ve spent money on other non-necessities. I sincerely doubt that these people are complaining about the nutritional quality of the macaroni and cheese that they eat by the bucket.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  145. res says:
    @Jiminy

    Here a lot of uni students say that they struggle to have proper meals, after they have paid their rent.

    Try asking those same uni students how much per month they spend on things like Starbucks, alcohol, and concerts.

    they always seem to have money for drugs, booze, the pokies and mobile phones. All of the necessities of life.

    Ahh, you made basically the same point. Except I forgot phones ; )

    • Replies: @photondancer
    , @rexl
  146. sayless says:
    @Expletive Deleted

    And that’s the political rhetoric now.

    “Americans” are everyone in general, and nobody in particular.

  147. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    The last White American social worker was hired in 1970. All the save blacks from themselves agencies are no Whites Need Apply.

    Black Natural parents are terrible. Black foster home parents are terrible. Black group homes for girls are factories for the production of teen prostitutes and the next generation of black bastards. Black group homes for boys are factories for the production of criminals and homeless. Blacks are terrible.

    OT a car AD crept through my AD blocker. I was shocked to see a White couple buying the car from a White salesman. The dialogue was in Turkish. That explains why the actors were White.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  148. @Jonathan Mason

    It’s easy and fun to make your own pizza.

    Get a pizza stone and put it in the oven at 500 F. Pizza restaurants will actually sell you their dough. We buy it from three different places at about $4 per large pizza. Put tomato sauce on it, mozzarella cheese, and any additional toppings if you want them. Bake for 10-15 minutes until it looks right to you. Enjoy.

    If you don’t have a place that will sell you dough, it’s not that hard to make it, and you can always buy it pre-made in one form or another.

    Our Emile Henry pizza stone, made in France, is a clever kind of ceramic, about $50:

  149. res says:
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Currently 114 comments, and ALL BUT ONE have been deleted!

    Sounds like a record. Worth a screen shot?

  150. @Wilkey

    Not just Wal Mart. In every standard corporate chain grocery store (IGA, Piggly Wiggly, Jewel, Safeway, Giant, Food Lion, Aldi’s, Lidl, etc.), when you walk in the entrance, next time do a detailed mental survey of what is on display when you walk in, and what are featured at the “end-of-the-aisle” sections. 80% of it is processed less-than-optimal items, such as snacks, drinks, sugar heavy cereals and associated items. Its good to visit a Whole Foods, or Sprouts, or Fresh Market, where they emphasize the fresh produce section right up front. Heck, around this region, even in the Korean-owned chains (Lotte, H-Mart) you have to go through the fresh produce and fresh seafood/meat sections to get to the canned/processed aisles elsewhere in the stores.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    , @photondancer
  151. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @AKAHorace

    If you only have enough money for food like macaroni and cheese or bread, you could be both undernourished and fat.

    This is BS. This might have been true in the Victorian era when bakers would adulterate flour with stuff like chalk and plaster of Paris to make more money, but all packaged and processed food today is heavily fortified with minerals and vitamins.

    In fact, people who eat more “whole foods” are likely to be more undernourished today because all the whole grains and vegetables they eat have a lot of fiber and antinutrients that leech vitamins and minerals from the body.

    People spend a lot of time and energy today buying whole foods in order to signal wealth, class, and sophistication, and rationalize it by saying that it’s much healthier than eating the more refined, packaged food that everybody ate 50 years, even though it really isn’t.

    • Agree: Alden
  152. sayless says:
    @Sparkling Wiggle

    During the Great Depression. Massively overlooked.

  153. My guess would be that more Americans are cold than hungry — it can be far more costly to heat your home in winter than it is to put reasonable food on the table, but for some reason there are countless appeals about hungry children compared to lack of heat. Of course if you live in subsidized housing your heat is probably subsidized as well.

    Meanwhile United Airlines just pledged to hire or train 2500 new pilots of color or womanhood

  154. Arclight says:

    The problem is that huge numbers of Americans lack the basic skill of obtaining relatively cheap raw or canned food and converting it into a nutritious meal. You can buy a whole chicken for $5, a 5lb bag of potatoes for $3, and a couple pounds of fresh green beans for another $5 and feed a family of 5.

    However, it takes about an hour of effort to part out the chicken, roast it, and make mashed potatoes and steamed green beans, and far too many people would rather hit Chik-Fil-A and spend $30 for five orders of chicken nuggets, fries and sodas.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Bill P
  155. Regarding the comments on being both malnourished and fat: a minimum level of IQ seems almost necessary for healthy eating in the modern world. And it’s largely independent of income. If you have high time preference and don’t consume much information, Twinkies and Big Macs are just too tempting.

    I wonder how much the association between IQ and longevity is the result of this phenomenon vs some other health benefit or indicator that’s connected to IQ. Similarly, is the relative leanness of yuppies compared to The People of Walmart the result of IQ genes or metabolism genes? I’m certainly not predisposed to leanness and was even a somewhat chubby kid. But I’m smart enough and intellectual enough to discover and practice things like intermittent fasting, avoiding too many carbs etc. which keeps me comfortably below 20% body fat well into my 40s. I’m convinced my 90-IQ doppelganger would be at least 50 pounds heavier.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  156. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You know, before the pandemic I used to be like you. My food shopping was done mostly at Trader Joe’s and Wegman’s (both upscale SWPL kind of stores if they are not in your region). The only time I set foot in WalMart was to buy stuff like motor oil and car batteries (BTW, WalMart offers these at good prices for high quality items).

    But the pandemic disrupted my shopping habits. You know what – a bunch of bananas is a bunch of bananas. WalMart sells mostly national brands (e.g. Chiquita bananas). They even have organic bananas if you are so inclined and their prices tend to be pretty low. I am never going back to the old way. I don’t need to go up and down the aisles to pick out my own package of toilet paper and Cheerios. That’s a big waste of time, especially if WalMart is willing to provide this service for free. If I want a piece of fancy cheese I’ll go back into Whole Foods or the like, but at least 3/4 of my grocery list is for commodity or brand name items where the item that they sell at WalMart is identical to what you would get in some “upscale” store. Frankly the most odious part (sometimes literally) of going into a WalMart was the other customers and if you do curbside pickup, that part is eliminated.

    Since I have been vaccinated I’ve been going back into stores but as it happens, my local Wegman’s is directly across the street from a WalMart. I’ll pick up 3/4 of what I need by curbside delivery from WalMart and then I’ll run into the Wegmans and get my stinky French cheese and sea bass, etc. and spend 1/4 of the time that I would formerly spend in there.

    Wegmans also offers curbside delivery but everything is marked up vs. the store prices because they contract with Instacart. I really don’t understand the economics of how WalMart is able to pay someone $15 per hour in my area (with a $2 night premium – I see their help wanted signs outside the building) to go up and down the aisles picking out sacks of potatoes and bottles of detergent for me but it’s none of my business. I assume this is not a model that they are going to be able to sustain (they are doing stuff like this so that they don’t get crushed by Amazon) but it’s fun while it lasts.

  157. Alden says:
    @craig

    Another crabby old woman less childless woman hating codger living in a studio and eating micro wave pizza.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  158. @YetAnotherAnon

    It’s not shortage of money that piles some trolleys with ready meals, sugary soft drinks, potato waffles and chocolate mousse.

    At least you’re no longer putting alum and plaster of Paris in the bread, or borax in the souring milk to mask the taste.

    • Replies: @Ben Kurtz
  159. Wilkey says:
    @Captain Tripps

    Not just Wal Mart. In every standard corporate chain grocery store (IGA, Piggly Wiggly, Jewel, Safeway, Giant, Food Lion, Aldi’s, Lidl, etc.), when you walk in the entrance, next time do a detailed mental survey of what is on display when you walk in, and what are featured at the “end-of-the-aisle” sections

    Oh, I know. Perhaps it’s just me, but I noticed years ago that Walmart seems to be exceptionally good at placing the junk food in spots where it draws my attention. I don’t do a lot of shopping there, not least because they have the nastiest produce of any store around, but it does seem to be a lot easier to make it out of even a Kroger-owned store without throwing some junk food in the cart.

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
  160. @ic1000

    Pringles, Hydrox, and frozen pizzas

    Where do you get Hydrox? It’s Oreos, Oreos, Oreos everywhere today.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  161. Jack D says:
    @Arclight

    The economics of restaurants, generally speaking, is that food cost should not constitute more than 25% of your gross revenue on average. Some items may be marked up more (soda and french fries) and some items may be marked up less (seafood) but if your total food cost is running much above 25% of gross revenue you’re in trouble because you need the other 75% to pay rent, labor, utilities, taxes and fees, insurance, advertising, packaging materials for takeout, etc. and still (hopefully) earn a profit on top of that. Almost none of these costs apply at home on a marginal cost basis – you are already paying rent or mortgage, your labor is free, you’re already heating your house and you already own plates, etc. In addition to food, the only marginal cost is a few pennies worth of utilities to cook the food and maybe some paper napkins.

    Therefore, the same meal that costs you $13 to feed 5 people at home is going to cost you at least $50 or more when you eat out. If you are talking about a tablecloth restaurant, a lot more. What sit down place nowadays other than perhaps a humble diner in a rural area is going to give you a chicken entree with a starch and a vegetable for $10? A new upscale Italian place just open in my area and the chicken entrees are $24 and up and this is not including appetizer, drinks, dessert, tax, tip, etc. If you could get out of that place for less than $50/head it would be a miracle. For $250, I could feed a family of 5 nicely for more than a week.

  162. Clyde says:
    @Sparkling Wiggle

    When was the last time someone died of starvation in the United States?

    People in the US are dying of the opposite, obesity. Covid has taken many obese people. I have read morbid obesity is the worst thing to have with Covid flying around. I just read about a British Muslim MP from Manchester, he had three family members die of Cov-19. In the details were that all were at least 83 years old.

    One of the largest Medicaid-Medicare expenditures is for diabetes caused primarily by obesity.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  163. @Expletive Deleted

    I’ve found to my chagrin that LiDL fruit’n’veg is not only cheaper…

    Don’t know about Aldi much (rare round here)

    Lidl and Aldi were founded by competing German brothers, the Adidas and Puma of food.

    The opposite is true in the US Midwest; Aldi is much more common. Aldi seems to vary in stock by location– small towns, college towns and neighborhoods, upscale suburbs, and ghettoes. Their healthier items are harder to find in the last.

    They track their sales in each place and adjust accordingly.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Jack D
  164. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    For a while you would have needed a time machine since Hydrox were not produced between 1999 and 2015. Ironically, Hydrox were the original chocolate sandwich cookie and Oreos were the copy. But in 2015 they were reintroduced by another manufacturer. They didn’t even have to pay royalties since the last owner (Kellogg’s) had abandoned the trademark.

    If you can’t find them, maybe it’s because the Nabisco (nowadays called Mondelez) drivers are hiding them behind the Oreos:

    https://www.foodandwine.com/news/oreo-hydrox-rivalry-ftc-complaint

    If you can’t find them locally they sell them on Amazon. They are made in the USA while Oreos are Hecho in Mexico. Nabisco got sick of paying American workers a living wage and paying inflated prices for US sugar so they moved most of their cookie production to Mexico. Because of the power of the sugar /corn syrup lobby and import tariffs, US sugar prices are 50 to 100% higher than world prices but if you make cookies in Mexico with Mexican sugar there is no tariff under NAFTA.

    • Thanks: ic1000
  165. @Jack D

    But the pandemic disrupted my shopping habits. You know what – a bunch of bananas is a bunch of bananas. WalMart sells mostly national brands (e.g. Chiquita bananas). They even have organic bananas if you are so inclined and their prices tend to be pretty low. I am never going back to the old way. I don’t need to go up and down the aisles to pick out my own package of toilet paper and Cheerios. That’s a big waste of time, especially if WalMart is willing to provide this service for free. If I want a piece of fancy cheese I’ll go back into Whole Foods or the like, but at least 3/4 of my grocery list is for commodity or brand name items where the item that they sell at WalMart is identical to what you would get in some “upscale” store.

    I think you’re spiting yourself here – the upscale market that carries imported cheeses, high quality cuts of meat and 15 varieties of fresh fish most likely counts on the sale of the dry goods and boxed items at a premium to subsidize the stocking of the high quality perishables.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  166. Ben Kurtz says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Today’s enlightened Whole Foods shoppers are delighted to pay extra for “Almondmilk” fortified with chalk. For the calcium, you see.

    https://www.bluediamond.com/brand/almond-breeze/almondmilk/original

    (Third ingredient is “Calcium Carbonate,” which is fancyspeak for “Chalk”.)

    Everything old is new again.

    • LOL: photondancer
    • Replies: @Jack D
  167. @Reg Cæsar

    No, it’s Aldi which is split between two brothers.

    Aldi Nord is responsible for its stores in Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Poland, Spain, Denmark, and Portugal, and also operates the Trader Joe’s markets in the United States. Aldi Süd’s responsibilities are in the United States (operating under the Aldi name), Austria and Slovenia (as Hofer), Italy, Great Britain, Ireland, Australia, and Switzerland.

    In the UK, Aldi and Lidl are big competitors, they monitor each other’s prices and adjust accordingly. I prefer Lidl for most food, but Aldi for the hardware items – I’m still kicking myself for not buying their electric log splitter three years ago, not seen it since. Lidl also feature cheap wine offers most weekends, and while a wine buff wouldn’t be impressed, it’s drinkable (Spanish Cava at £4 over Easter).

  168. @Brutusale

    My lunatic girlfriend not only cooks at least six days a week but shops for the ingredients most days.

    Keep her!

    Well, depending on the level of lunaticity …

  169. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Lidl and Aldi were founded by competing German brothers, the Adidas and Puma of food.

    Not true. Lidl and Aldi have no relationship though they are both German companies with similar business models. Aldi itself was founded by two brothers who at one point in the 1960s quarreled and split the company between them – one brother got northern Germany and one got the southern part. Later they divided up the world between them. They both get to use the Aldi name in their respective territories. Aldi Süd runs the Aldi stores in America. Aldi Nord owns Trader Joe’s but can’t use the Aldi name here.

    Aldi has been in the US since the 1970s and has far more stores here – a couple of thousand. Lidl has only been here a few years and has under 100 stores in the US at this time. The original Aldi stores were very low frills and sort of grim looking and tended to be in low income areas and catered to rock bottom shoppers. They looked sort of like what you would expect a food store to look like in a Communist country if food was actually in good supply in Communist countries, which it never is (the state owned liquor stores in Pennsylvania used to have that same grim look). Stacks of flour and sugar sitting right on the floor on forklift pallets and not much decoration. Lately they have moved more upscale with fancy modern decor and more modern prices to match. You can’t eat decor – they should have left the stores alone.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  170. Bill P says:
    @Arclight

    Yes, they need to start teaching home ec again. Lots of people on food stamps use them up well before the end of the month. The culprit is often frozen dinners and processed foods.

    BTW, you can actually get 15lbs of potatoes for $3. I’ve done some calculations and bulk carbs sell at a pretty flat rate, whether it’s rice, flour, corn or potatoes. Chili peppers, which are very healthy vegetables, cost about $1/ pound. Even good fish is pretty reasonable at $6/pound for Alaskan cod, and if you want luxury $8/pound for sockeye when it’s on sale. Dried beans are about $.80/pound. Lard and oil are also ridiculously cheap.

    All you need is a good collection of spices and you can cook restaurant quality meals for a family of four for no more than $10 per day.

    Just the other day I cooked up a big pot of ranchero beans for my neighbors that probably cost me about $7, and most of that was the chorizo.

    I regularly make mashed potatoes for the kids. Homemade lasagna, battered cod, schnitzel, chili con carne, pasta e fagioli, etc. And every couple weeks we smoke a pork butt or brisket at my friend’s farm where we have access to buckets of farmer’s cheese, and I collaborate with his half-Mexican girlfriend on big batches of Chipotle chili sauce for enchiladas and tamales made from fresh masa. Our next plan is to try to manufacture brunost (we both had Norwegian grandparents) with the gallons of whey leftover from all the goat cheese. Oh, and that’s not to mention my neighbors who work on an oyster farm and occasionally bring an entire barrel of oysters for grilling on their deck.

    All of this costs us next to nothing besides our time.

    I don’t know how on earth anyone could starve in the midst of this cornucopia. We even feed the guard dogs (lots of coyotes around) freshly killed chickens and rabbits.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Alden
  171. @peterike

    pete, My wife got her Covid vaccine in Buffalo’s inner city at the pharmacy of a local large grocery chain. Store was new, spotless, well stocked and basically empty. It is on a bus line and has a large parking lot. Check out the local corner stores where you can buy cheap cigarettes that the owner buys on the reservation and resells (not legal) always people walking in and out. Take a bus easily from most of the inner city to Walden Ave. and travel to the Walmart superstore in the first ring suburb of Cheektowaga. Majority of the shoppers seem to be black and so are a lot of staff. Take a convenient Bailey Ave. bus to the farmers market at Bailey and Clinton. Sometimes you have to put some effort into taking care of yourself and your kids. Every child in Buffalo gets a free school lunch regardless of income. No lunch shaming in the city.

  172. peterike says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    I am so sick and tired of seeing “EBT accepted” signs at convenience stores. Some huge percentage of their sales — the junkiest “food” around — must come from EBT.

    To say nothing of the massive fraud carried out by various Arab and SubCon proprietors of these establishments. What, the gubmint says you can’t buy beer and cigarettes with SNAP? Of course you can! Just ask friendly Mr. Patel. He’ll sell you whatever you want. Ok, maybe it’s $1.25 on the dollar, but what do you care, it’s free money. And you’re really Jonesing for those Newports and a forty.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  173. @Wilkey

    One reason Food Stamps originally never focused on better nutrition was because it was a Department of Agriculture program and so was aimed at the needs of the farmers not the poor. Food Stamps evolved from the surplus food program that distributed bulk food items to keep surpluses low. In the late fifties every one ate margarine except those poor who got big loaves of surplus butter from their social worker. They also got dried beans.

    • Replies: @RAZ
  174. Some years ago a Harvard study identified key counties in the US where there was a hunger crisis. I noticed the story because my parent’s home county in the Ozarks was on the list. My mother and I laughed at it, because we knew that no one in that county was going hungry.
    The professors at Harvard were looking at reported income levels and the price of food in grocery stores. People in that county are growing, ranching, hunting, and fishing much of the food they eat. Plus, they do business in cash and report as little of their true income as possible.

  175. Jack D says:
    @Ben Kurtz

    The whole non-dairy “milk’ thing is a sham. They really shouldn’t be allowed to call their products “milk”. It’s a massive fraud. Milk comes from cows and other mammals, not from nuts and grains. Call it “almond flavored beverage” but don’t call it milk.

    People drink this stuff and give it to their kids under the mistaken illusion that it is the nutritional equivalent of milk, when the stuff is 98% water. Almond milk has almost no protein in it (1 gram per serving – you’d need to drink half a gallon to get the protein in 1 glass of milk). A glass of almond milk has a total of about 4 or 5 almonds in it. Yes you read that right folks. It’s barely even an almond beverage – it’s an almond FLAVORED beverage.The rest is the chalk (sorry, calcium) that you mention, sugar, salt, a thickener (a sort of slime produced by bacterial fermentation) to give it more mouthfeel than the water that it is, and added vitamins and minerals so that the nutrition facts don’t look so grim. So you are paying $3 or so for a half a gallon of mainly tap water.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  176. @Jack D

    Almost none of these costs apply at home on a marginal cost basis – you are already paying rent or mortgage, your labor is free, you’re already heating your house and you already own plates, etc.

    Your labor is never free. Your time is an irreplaceable limited resource that is constantly slipping through your fingers, and you never know what your remaining balance is.

    • Thanks: Captain Tripps
  177. @Jiminy

    …money for drugs, booze, the pokies and mobile phones.

    Don’t know about Oz, but in the States, “the pokies” seem designed to make you hungry. The only value at casinos (other than card-counting, for which you will be banned) is the buffets.

    Incidentally, casino gambling was prohibited in every state but Nevada and part of New Jersey when the Supreme Court ruled these laws couldn’t apply to Indian reservations. After which the industry exploded. (And some state laws relaxed, to let anaboriginals– or postaboriginals, whatever– compete.)

    Have the abos in Oz been following this? In New Zealand, only the Maoris can deal in jade, a major export.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
  178. It’s not propaganda, Steve. It’s a parked reference for assholes to cite in online debates: “You don’t think my ‘food justice’ nonprofit needs more public funding?!? Check out this article in the New York Times, you ignorant bigot!”

  179. Arclight says:
    @Jack D

    Interesting info on the restaurant economics. But your overall point is what I was getting at – for a pretty low cost, you can make restaurant quality food for your family if you can be bothered to do so.

    It’s not rocket science and a lot of people can learn how to do this, but of course many never do. I would support EBT cards being restricted to a fairly narrow range of food products to make it harder for recipients to just load up on garbage.

  180. Alden says:
    @craig

    Another scumbag POS childless woman less crabby old repressed gay codger creep living in a studio on microwave pizza bloviating his hatred of women. Because you have no wife GF or kids you POS you assume that cooking is the total responsibility of the wife and kids and husband never enter the kitchen.

    If you had kids, you’d know that by the time they’re 10 they often get dinner started after school because they’re hungry and fixing snacks anyway.

    I assume you believe that a wife who gets up at 6/ 30 am shoves a fried egg and toast sandwich at the kids gets them dressed and in the car by 7/30 and doesn’t get home till six pm has all the responsibility for feeding husband and kids.

    Which is proof you’ve never had a wife woman or kids in your life you woman hating old coot. FYI husbands and kids do help with food shopping cooking and cleaning up. But you don’t know that because you don’t have a wife and children and don’t maintain a family home. Because you’re a celibate woman hater. Did you notice many Men of UNZ wrote about food shopping and cooking and don’t expect the wives to do all the cooking. That’s how it is.

    My 4 kids and 8 grandchildren all started real cooking by the time they were 10 and even younger. And that’s normal you scumbag POS woman hater. And the husbands cook food shop too. All of them.

    What kind of imaginary world do you live in where coining is the sole responsibility of the wife? 1900 rich family with cooks and maids? 1950 middle class family wife who doesn’t work kids who don’t enter the kitchen?

    Someone mentioned it takes a long time to cut up a whole chicken. It doesn’t. My sister and husband actually timed me several times. Less than 2 minutes to cut a whole chicken into 4 pieces. Of course I’m very skilled efficient and fast. Plus I have carbon, not useless can never be properly sharpened stainless steel cleavers and knives.
    So, FYI you woman hating old codger, here’s how to fix a cooked from scratch dinner for 6 people in 20-40 minutes from the time mom gets home at 6 PM with no help from anyone.

    Let’s start with the oven fried chicken as it’s called as it takes longest and kids love it.
    Chicken mashed potatoes vegetable salad

    Turn on oven to 500 degrees not to cook chicken at that temp but to get hot as preparing the chicken takes only a few minutes. Cut up whole chicken less than 3 minutes. Dump chicken pieces into your bag of flour sage paprika garlic salt whatever you like. Not prepared bread crumbs. A bag you prepared a few days ago
    and keep in the fridge till it’s used up. Oil on a timed baking sheet with some thrice clarified bacon fat for delicious flavor. Put in oven. Don’t peel potatoes. Chop them up so the shreds of skin will be small. By this time oven will be hit turn down to 400. Halfway through, use pancake turner to turn chicken over Boil some frozen or fresh vegetables Kids love canned corn.
    Stab a fork into potatoes. If done drain return to pot cover and turn flame back on for a couple minutes. Add butter sour cream plain yogurt salt and mash with potato masher or whisk. Russet potatoes take a little longer than other potatoes. After the chicken is in the oven and potatoes and vegetable is boiling you should have time to chop up some lettuce cabbage cucumbers whatever oils and vinegar for a salad,

    When the chicken is done, a chicken dinner in 40 minutes or less

    Even faster, thin steaks pork chops chicken liver noodles vegetable and salad, 20 25 minutes. Enter kitchen turn on oven to 250 degrees Take meat out if fridge unwrap. Put in oven turn heat to 200. Put big pot of water to boil. Put vegetables in pot. Kids love Brussels sprouts. Even faster is spinach do let’s cook fresh spinach tonight

    Heat 2 cast iron or stainless steel frying pans from the restaurant supply store. Chop up
    spinach. Put noodles in boiling water. Lots of oil in one frying pan. Sprinkle meat with your SSP equal amounts of salt sugar and just a little pepper. Fry the steaks or pork chops Put spinach is the other frying pan no oil needed Stir spinach while frying the meat. When pork chops are almost done add sliced apple and onion steak mushrooms onion and Worcester sauce. Drain noodles add butter cream cheese or sour cream and stir around.

    Dinner for 6 in 20-40 minutes. Husband can do something if the kids are too little. Kids 12 and over are perfectly happy to have dinner ready when parents get home. Especially if it means they don’t have to clean up or do the dishes. And get to cook what they want and eat snacks

    It’s really obvious which Men of UNZ are married and have kids and know how to cook And very obvious which Men of UNZ have no women children or gay partners and know nothing about food shopping cooking batterie de cuisine knives and cleavers efficiency anything but microwave pizzas like you

    Every possible topic the woman haters jump in with their ignorance Go to hell

    • Replies: @anon
    , @petit bourgeois
    , @craig
  181. @Jack D

    It’s a massive fraud. Milk comes from cows and other mammals, not from nuts and grains. Call it “almond flavored beverage” but don’t call it milk.

    Likewise, you don’t call tisanes “tea”, cavies “pigs”, anemones “dollars”, and cousins of walruses “lions”, right?

    Almonds and other nuts may lack much in full proteins, but the point is, as with beans, do they have enough complementary amino acids to make full proteins in tandem with grains? That’s why beans-and-rice is so common a dish worldwide. It fulfills.

    So you are paying $3 or so for a half a gallon of mainly tap water.

    As with beer, but only half a pint. It’s like human and chimp genes– it’s that 2% that makes all the difference.

    Some of us have to avoid cow’s milk. Cheese doesn’t float one’s granola, so almond milk it is. Also, it keeps Steve’s part of the world afloat. 81% of the planet’s almonds are produced in California.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  182. Jack D says:
    @Bill P

    I don’t know how on earth anyone could starve in the midst of this cornucopia.

    The same way that people end up ignorant even though all the accumulated knowledge of civilization is literally at your fingertips.

  183. Mr. Anon says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What’s WalMart?

    I wouldn’t shop in a WallyWorld if they payed me. F**k them. They have beggared a lot of America with their sharp and ruthless business practices, as Steve has often recounted here. And all the while they hid behind an American flag and later behind their friendly-good-neighbor-pose, and now behind a bunch of wokeness. It turns out that there is a steep price for cheap merchandise.

  184. @Jack D

    We buy a lot of our commodity items — like toilet paper and paper towels, cases of black beans, etc. — at a warehouse place called BJ’s. I love the name for it’s nasty connotation.

    I keep months of supplies in our basement store room, because I am one of those paranoid, deplorable Americans who are crazy enough to think our just-in-time logistical system might hiccup and have a problem someday.

    • Agree: TontoBubbaGoldstein
  185. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Aside from tisanes, the other items you mention are not consumed, at least not in the US. It’s not a linguistic issue, it’s a truth in labeling, consumer fraud issue. No one is selling sea lions in the grocery store.

    Tisanes as “tea” come the closest to being on point, but it’s a minor issue compared to milk which is an important source of nutrition, especially for children. And most tisanes cannot be mistaken for real tea – the taste and color is usually quite different whereas they try to make “almond milk” appear like real milk. Maybe there should be a law requiring it to be tinted with green food coloring so people won’t get mixed up.

    As far as avoiding cow’s milk, lactose free milk is now widely available. There may be other reasons (religious, allergic, vegan, etc.) for avoiding cow’s milk but lactose intolerance is the main issue and lactose free milk is the solution. AFAIK 100% of American fresh milk comes from America.

    If your beer is 98% water then you need to change brands.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  186. JimB says:

    In America, food insecurity simply means that your neighborhood supermarket burned down in the last riot so you have to take a bus crosstown to shoplift Skittles and Arizona Ice Tea.

  187. 216 says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    A goal to improve higher ed is mandatory quotas for right-wing academics.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  188. @The Alarmist

    You would have to cut my legs off before I’d ride one of those.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  189. @AKAHorace

    “If you only have enough money for food like macaroni and cheese or bread, you could be both undernourished and fat.”

    That is a bullshit lie. Eggs are practically free and the best natural protein source available. Milk is also cheap protein.

    I took the foodstamp challenge many years ago: can you eat well on $200/month? I did it for two months and spent just $160/month eating mostly eggs, milk, beans, rice, ham, cheese, and a daily multivitamin, plus simple spices to make the food tasty. I had 40 bucks left over for tea, vodka, and Rockstars.

    Most poor people are imbeciles with no self-control, so they gorge on cheap carbs instead of cheap proteins.

    Uncle Samantha lies to us 24/7/365.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    , @glib
    , @Old Prude
  190. Alden says:
    @Bill P

    No one needs to take home EC to learn how to cook. My Mom didn’t take home EC. Neither did I or my 4 siblings. One brother is actually the best cook of all 5 of us. Our 4 kids and 8 grand children never took home EC. Our kids cooked dinner 3 or 4 nights a week by the time they were 12 because they wanted too. They and the grandkids read the cook books. Grandkids use the numerous recipes on their phones.

    We’re a cold hearted ice people WASP family and all the men love to cook. Except my husband. He cooks a lot but doesn’t love it like the other guys do. Probably because he had to whip up dinners for 4 hungry kids when we were young.

    You don’t even have to buy a cook book any more. Just look on your phone Don’t even need to open your laptop.

    I do recommend a general cook book like Joy of Cooking for beginners. Because it has entire chapters about every kind of food stoves equipment efficiency etc. Daughter started cooking dinner for the whole family at 11. She said all she did was look in the fridge and read Joy of Cooking. She said she really didn’t follow the recipes just read the chapters about cakes about poultry about beef about pork about pasta about ovens etc.

    And most of all, carbon steel knives and cleavers cast iron frying pans a small kitchen and a gas stove if possible. Although the State of California wants to banish gas stoves in favor of electric.

    Just buy some food and cook it. Even hamburgers.

    • Agree: ic1000, Muggles, Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  191. @Dan Smith

    Dan, Time magazine had a cover story, different covers for different locals, “Teaching in America.” One female teacher making $79,000 per year and sharing a bed with her daughter. Another working 20 hours per week at Walmart, his $120K didn’t provide him with the life style he wanted. Another having to sell plasma because her $59K didn’t go far enough. The MSM will find these weepy stories to drive their agenda.

  192. @216

    Especially in the English, History, Sociology, and Political Science departments.

  193. Shango says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Do you believe the story on how Reagan “shipped” crack into the black community.
    ?

  194. @Jack D

    Jack, my cousin’s sons would say “Dad we’re hungry.” He would respond…”Make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.” They would say…”I don’t a PBJ sandwich.” He would end the conversation with…”Then you are not hungry. Any hungry person would eat a PBJ sandwich.”

    • Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein
  195. Muggles says:
    @Arclight

    I would support EBT cards being restricted to a fairly narrow range of food products to make it harder for recipients to just load up on garbage.

    There are already some restrictions, but not many. Alcohol, cigs and probably some others.

    However they don’t work too well, as some recipients either sell those cards for a discount to get cash or trade legit purchases to others for booze or cigs, probably everything else.

    Interesting here how some topics generate a lot of comments. Food, in this instance. Also films, sometimes TV, actors, etc.

    I will say the the mainly aging boomers here (well, some) have lots of good tips for saving on groceries. All very sound. Back in my penniless student days I learned how to eat well but cheaply, using many of the suggestions here. Farmers markets, little meat/fish (back then) and avoiding crap. I have no sympathy for complaints about hunger or food “being expensive.”

    I like bison which you can get at a local Kroger. When I bought a nice strip steak slightly on sale there once (it’s expensive), and noted the price upon checkout. A nice (young, black female) clerk volunteered the idea of cutting it up, making it into a small stew or meat cube sauce, and using that over rice. Something we had done already. She was probably a single mother and I thought her suggestion was very nice and also accurate. I took the time to go to their web site and give her a special thank you. Really the only time that’s ever happened, a money stretching tip from a checker.

    Another tip for milk drinkers: non fat milk tastes good (enough, you learn to lose the “fat taste” once you avoid it in foods/drinks) and keeps at least twice as long as the regular stuff.

    Final tip: get a full sized freezer or even half sized for a family. Buy things on sale. You can cook up a lot of food/meals at once and freeze the rest for later. After you have one, you’ll regard the fridge freezers as just temp storage for common things. A half or 3/4 size freezer isn’t costly and if you’re the kind who likes to shop, can probably pick up a used one on Craigs List or similar place. So for a few hundred or even less, you can get one to last forever.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  196. @Pericles

    Yes, Dear Pericles,

    What would you suggest we do? We have the fear, as you say. Many of us have the fight you suggest within ourselves.

    Many of us are armed.

    What would you suggest we do now?

    Keep in mind, some of us have options and do not have to stick around to find out what happens.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  197. bomag says:
    @JohnPlywood

    I doubt any of this money (“money”) filters down to the ag sector.

    Meanwhile, Biden’s minions are trying to kill ag in Colorado.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  198. @Alden

    I cooked on a wood-burning stove in my log cabin for seven months. Then I moved in with my dad, and we cooked together. I even taught him my beans and rice recipe. He taught me many things, including the Belgian waffle recipe I use to this day. (Beat the egg whites. You don’t need baking powder at all. The air in the whites is all you need. Fold them in.)

    I worked as a cook in a cafeteria one year to earn room and board in college. Then I worked as a prep cook at a semi-famous Boulder restaurant that summer. Cher came there, and we were all on alert! LOL.

    Many years later, I married the most fantastic woman who cooks like a five-star chef. I am in food heaven.

    Cook. Indeed. Just cook.

    • Replies: @Alden
  199. Dumbo says:
    @Alden

    But where is he wrong?

    Cooking used to be a thing done mostly by women (wives/ mothers/ grandmothers) who generally excelled at it or at least were able to prepare good and generally healthy food. (Except for barbecues, which were prepared by men, but those were arguably less healthy). And that was true even among the poor.

    Nowadays, for many women it became more of a lifestyle thing, and more about “gourmet” food than daily stuff, while for many others, it is viewed as “oppression” or just something they are just not so interested in.

    I suppose the rich still eat very well, but the middle classes a bit less well than before (food is getting pricier too), and the poor, basically they don’t cook at all and just eat atrocious readymade food. No wonder most people are obese.

  200. Mike Tre says:
    @Jack D

    Look at the kid’s eyes. She knows she’s fucked.

  201. Muggles says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Most poor people are imbeciles with no self-control, so they gorge on cheap carbs instead of cheap proteins.

    Uncle Samantha lies to us 24/7/365.

    Although I often disagree with you, you did good here today, with this one.

    I think cooking is a lost art. People too “busy” watching screens or something. Electronic drugs.

    There is a reason why around every population center, they are ringed with businesses which sell $2 worth of food for $12. Yes, some cheap labor, rent, build-out. It is hard to find any other product/service with such high markups.

    Yet strangely, these places are frequented with poorer people who claim that they can’t afford to eat properly. It is worse than lottery tickets. A waste of money but they don’t kill you in the long run.

  202. @Jack D

    Jack, my heart aches to know that that baby suffered such a painfull death. There is no place for her POS mother in humane society.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  203. @Buzz Mohawk

    I use a Lodge 15″ cast iron skillet to make homemade pizzas. Works like a charm.

    But lately I have been making pizza bread in the cast iron skillet using frozen garlic-buttered Texas toast from the freezer aisle. Way better than Pizza Hut or Domino’s. Just remember to use whole milk mozzarella (not that part skim crap) and Boar’s Head pepperoni (not that Hormel crap). It’s also good with some jalapeno infused “hot” honey drizzled on top.

  204. @George

    School cafeteria workers kept their jobs (e.g government paychecks). Obviously, they prepared the school nutritionist-certified pig-s* via Zoom.

    They also promptly received “stimulus” checks for their hardships.

    Meanwhile, members of my household (negatively impacted as much as anyone) are still waiting for our virus-related (tax refund, actually) checks; IRS hasn’t processed our 1040s.

  205. About 20 years ago in the DC area, there were numerous billboards with a picture of a sad looking white boy under the words, “One in 4 children in the DC area go to bed hungry.”

    It turns out that the study methodology was to ask a bunch of 9 year old boys if they wanted something to eat before bed.

    This kind of stuff is so obviously slanted that my BS meter goes off right away. It’s been going on for so long that I don’t believe any of it any more.

  206. Today I ran into a friend who’s a CEO of a food distribution company. I asked him how work was. He said “we’ve got a ton of demand but can’t get people to show up to to work.” I asked what he meant, and he explained that the “economic assistance payments” plus frequently extended unemployment benefits were disincentivizing people from working in their warehouses.

    They pay between $15-20 per hour, which is more than you’ll make on unemployment, but the margin’s not so much greater as to motivate people to come and work. He explained that this is the case throughout the whole food distribution and grocery store supply chain, so companies are having to raise wages or just be unable to fulfill orders, leading to the rising food prices that we’re all seeing at the stores.

    Another fun consequence of “generous benefits” from the Democrats.

  207. @Whereismyhandle

    United Airlines says it will train 5,000 pilots this decade, including taking on applicants with no flying experience, and plans for half of them to be women or people of color.

    Yeah, I’m going to just run out and buy an RV, thanks.

  208. bomag says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Improvement would be to reduce the thing’s footprint in perpetuating the left-wing Narrative.

  209. @Jack D

    It depends on whether you live in a more expensive or a cheaper part of the country.

    I can take my wife and two kids to Golden Corral and eat for a total bill of about $40, which includes starters, entrees, and desserts plus soft drinks with refills.

    You can eat as much as you want, and of course if you don’t like something, you can just get a new plate and eat something else instead.

    The children will sometimes have three desserts!

    To make the same meal at home would not be practical as youwould have to prepare a number of different dishes, however if everybody eats the same thing, then of course it is much cheaper to cook at home, plus you probably have leftovers to eat tomorrow or to take to work tomorrow and reheat, or you can use the leftover mashed potato to make fish cakes for breakfast.

    Here in Ecuador you can get two-course lunch at the beach with a drink for $3 dollars and 50 cents, but there isn’t much choice and it is more like eating a family meal. A typical meal would be fish soup for starters, fish with rice, tostones, avocado, and cucumber for entree, and a plastic cup of lemonade to wash it down.

    You wonder how the restaurants can survive on such small margins, but of course they are all run by families and there are no outside employees.

    Schools in the US really need to educate children better in home economics.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    , @anon
  210. @Jack D

    She is the poster child for bringing back the death sentence.

    • Agree: Charles St. Charles
  211. Shango says:
    @Anon

    I’ll take them over urban city trash dindu every damn day of the week.

  212. @Old and Grumpy

    Our invaders don’t look like they have ever been hungry. I guess the chubby look goes with their shiny new footwear and cellphones.

    Agreed, the best looking desperate asylum seekers I’ve ever seen.

    Unfortunately, no matter how chubby they look today, they’ll be hungry again tomorrow.

  213. @Wilkey

    But I’ve noticed that some stores (cough, WalMart!) are really damn good at steering customers into the junk food sections.

    Here in Florida we shop at Walmart. Of course, AnotherMom usually does our shopping. (She gathers, while i hunt the big game on-line.)

    But when i go, i have to use the non-food entrance so i won’t be tempted by all that useless fresh produce junk–which they put right up front!!!–and can get safely to my aisles in the back with the healthy, energy providing, chips and beer.

    • LOL: Captain Tripps
    • Replies: @Alden
  214. @JohnPlywood

    …you’ll need to support our President…

    Which one? The one that actually won the election? Or the one that stole it and sits in the White House today drooling into his tapioca?

  215. @JohnnyWalker123

    While higher education needs to be improved, increasing the number of tenure-track faculty isn’t the way to do it. Most of the adjuncts have Ph.D.’s, and it’s criminal that they were sold a bill of goods, but the solution is to stop producing so many in useless subjects.

    • Agree: ic1000, AnotherDad
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    , @AKAHorace
  216. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    I drank or tried to drink almond milk once. We had a house guest who claims to be lactose intolerant. And she eats oatmeal and raisins for breakfast every day. So I had to buy some liberal fad weird white beverage for her. She also claims to be allergic to sugar. So I read the label and bought unsweetened almond milk.

    There was some left. I like cocoa made with half and half. I made some and decided might as well add some of the almond milk. About an ounce to a cup of cocoa just a little. The little bit of almond milk made it inedible. Had to throw the cocoa away. Tasted the non sweetened almond milk. Absolutely disgusting and weird. Didn’t taste like almonds at all. I bet most of the almond milk sold has much sugar and vanilla in it as egg nog and that’s most of what’s sold.

    Mom taught us to read labels. Do you ever read the calorie count on whole-wheat, whole grain healthy bread? About double the calories of a piece of plain white bread. The wholesome healthy whole grain bread gets a lot of calories from molasses and other sugar. That’s why it’s so delicious. Another thing about boring old white bread. It doesn’t taste good so I don’t eat several slices with lots of soft butter.

    Real purpose of bread is to have eggs cheese many delicious kinds of meat pickles sardines smoked fish mustard onions and yummy things heaped on it.

  217. @Alden

    What no huge lumps of meat.

    You must be a communist.

  218. @Nodwink

    While I wouldn’t call this a racist blog per se, I do find it funny that a blogger and his readers who believe in HBD seem to have a hard time grasping that some people are more likely to be fat than others. They believe it for intelligence and they believe it in speed, especially when running the 100 meter dash or playing cornerback in the NFL, but when it comes to weight and being fat, we are all created equal for some reason. Goes to show that fat shaming is the last acceptable prejudice.

  219. Jiminy says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Australia’s got about twenty casinos spread across the country, but I wouldn’t really know if aboriginal tribes own any. I don’t think they do, but they could be shareholders in any that are listed on the exchange. As could any one of course. It’s not like the Indians there who own casinos on their reserves. Blacks own things like Ayres rock and Kakadu and you have to pay to see those areas. So they make a lot of money from those as well as from different types of mines that whites work. But as for the pokies, Australia has a whopping 18% of the machines in the world. Sports clubs have them as well as pubs. And honestly I’ve never tried one.

  220. @ScarletNumber

    You fucking retard.

    Adjuncts HAVE JOBS. Aduncts are ALREADY TEACHING. Adjuncts make colleges SHITLOADS OF MONEY. Colleges NEED adjuncts because their boards make all these shit investments and blow the rest of the non-profit profits on (unnecessary, pointless) new sports facilities and (unnecessary, pointless) new administration buildings.

    Nobody’s saying adjuncts who don’t have jobs should get tenure you idiot. They’re saying that the adjuncts who have jobs should be given tenure. Because, for one thing, adjuncts are better teachers than tenured professors. Besides the fact that those who do the work should be paid for it, and paid what the job is really worth.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
  221. If sleepy Joe really wants to do something to improve the lives and livelihoods of poor and working class Americans he can do so with a stroke of his pen–stop immigration; enforce the border and halt all immigration visas.

    Food is a complete non-issue. America has had cheap food relative to the rest of the world for its entire history and food production and distribution have only become even more efficient and cheaper during my lifetime. Ridiculously so. (Ok, the “organic” thing creates less efficient, more expensive food, but the poor aren’t spending their dollars on that particular fetish.)

    In contrast, immigration has eroded lower skilled American’s employment and wages and raised everyone’s housing costs dramatically. Stop it and there will be more jobs available and everyone will start getting higher wages and eventually see cheaper housing.

    ~~

    The effective and morally decent program:
    — Immigration control for the “deserving poor”
    — Birth control for the “undeserving poor”; (I.e. people who can’t/won’t hold a job even with a closed labor market where jobs are available.)

    We–badly–need “conservatives” who are willing to fire back at all this laughable minoritarian nonsense with these straightforward truths. Conservatives who actually want conserve something–the American nation.

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Alden
  222. @Alden

    One of my favorite movies is Babette’s Feast.

    If you have not seen it, you simply must.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Alden
  223. @Jonathan Mason

    There are cheap and expensive restaurants everywhere. Golden Corral is extremely low quality chain food, there are certainly better options around you even for a cheap family meal out. Golden Corrals are only in large population centers. Surely there’s some Mexican or seafood nearby that’s better.

  224. Alden says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Before he got married my dairy farmer brother and roommate lived in a farm house with a wood burning stove and cooked all their food because it was a rural area. No restaurants. It seemed to work fine.

    Start with pre formed hamburgers and Rice a Roni . Add a little woscester sauce mushrooms and onions to the hamburger.

    A scrumptious to die for snack or dinner 3 ingredients 5 minutes. Baguette or loaf of unsliced French bread. Chop into 1 1/2 inch pieces crust on each piece. Chop up extra sharp cheddar cheese. Even Kraft is ok as long as its extra sharp. Sprinkle basil on it. Put in oven or toaster oven till cheese melts. Eat with fork and mild red wine, not harsh merlot.

    Microwave is ok but microwave makes the bread chewy instead of crunchy.

    Do you like rice? Here’s another Brown or white rice whatever you like Brown takes more water and longer time to cook. Fry minced onion in the pot first add water rice low salt chicken broth big tablespoon medium strength curry powder lots of raisins little chunks of orange peel, just the peel no pith and some unsalted chopped pecans or walnuts. When the water is mostly absorbed taste and add salt to taste.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  225. @Jack D

    Nanny State lol.

    Beats your eunuch state who can’t even keep your children from having their dicks cut off.

    The whole world is laughing at your impotence.

  226. @Arclight

    Government “workers” should get “paid” via EBT, whereby all of their intended political campaign donations, NYT subscriptions, Starbucks lattes, etc. can be e-jected.

    Also, until education vouchers are available to everyone (but any such system is horrible), EBT should not be allowed to pay for private school.

  227. Maybe if Biden & the $ellout E$tabli$hment stopped admitting millions of poor foreign imminvaders across our southern border, the percentage of Americans – not just people who happen to be here on our soil – who lack enough to eat would decrease?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  228. @Alden

    1 3/4 oz. > 7/4 oz. > 7/(4 x 16) > 7/64 lb.
    $2.29/7 = 32.7c per (1/4 oz.)
    0.327 x 64 = $20.93/lb. (-ish; had to get the longest sliderule out to check those last dollar bits because I no longer trust my mental arith.).
    Maybe the oil and salt are real expensive??

    Told you I was old ..

    As for beans, peas and other dried legumes, make sure you bung a good dose of bicarb. in the soak, or avoid elevators, public transport and other enclosed environments for at least a week. Your associates will thank you.

    Breaking the new oven in last night, on a whim I chucked in some big taters and gave them 1hr 20min @ 200°C/390F (-ish). Only needed a bit of butter and salt, but I went nuts and chucked in chopped parsley, pickled gherkins, veteran sour cream and some leftover rashers I found lurking in the fridge. I chucked those last in with the spuds 15 min from the end and chopped them up.

    Could only manage two of those boys. Fridged the rest. No doubt they’ll be haunting my lunches for the rest of the week. Baked beans are stellar in those, like grated cheese.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  229. @Auntie Analogue

    No they’re needed to keep the crops from rotting in the fields.

  230. El Dato says:

    Very OT:

    ‘Wokescolds ruining comic books’: Jordan Peterson and fans notice Captain America villain sounds an awful lot like him

    When will our host make a guest appearance in the D.C. Universe?

    I can see it…

    In “Captain Mallmerica vs. iPhone Steve” we will see Captain Mallmerica fight “iPhone Steve”, a mysterious hacker who Nazi-converts Californian residents by hacking their iPhone and pumping their brain full of subliminal racist messages. When iPhone Steve brainhacks a black guy, Tennesee Goats, and makes him attack and blow up the Capitol with dual-wielded AR-15, America finally decides he has to be held to account.

    Captain Mallmerica is seconded by Wonder Xeman, a muscular transsexual who identifies as a girl and likes to handle Mallmerica with the might of Thor’s hammer, and managed by Commander Bidet and his “Looks Like America” gang from a flying Bordello. Bidet’s crack-smoking son, “Golden” Bidet, works as consultant on the board of Woke Capital (for a fee) and saves the day by having everyone connect to the NSA, thus enabling the tracing of iPhone Steve in an orgiastic CGI showdown. Putin and Xe also star as hapless bikers.

  231. @Wilkey

    Food Stamps/SNAP is not even aimed at the needs/wishes of American farmers anymore. It’s more aimed at the needs/wishes of junk food processors who target native populations with “food” (that is in turn aimed at the needs/wishes of mylar packaging manufacturers and Madison Ave. more than the farmers) and specialty food importers/retailers that target our immigrant welfare using populations.

  232. Alden says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I’ve seen it. I’m somewhat into French cooking because I like the precise chopping and dicing and exactness. I’ve made googie googie Very simple just cream puff dough with guyere or any hard cheese grated into it. The proper French way is to form the little blobs of dough into a ring. I usually just make it into individual cheese puffs. And croque en bouche a cream puff tower with caramel sauce holding the layers together. I’m really not much of a baker. Too fattening. Granddaughters are really into it. One makes jelly rolls and chocolate log cakes. Learned from a cook book or iPhone recipe. Did it perfectly the first time used a clean pillow case instead of a dishtowel

    Pie crust has been ruined by the Mrs Buttinsky liberal witches who banned lard. It’s easy to make perfect flaky crunchy pie crust with real lard. Lucky we have enough Hispanics in Ca you can always find real pig Manteca.

    • Replies: @Jiminy
    , @Buzz Mohawk
  233. @Alden

    Bags of frozen fries, hash browns etc. have the infinitely valuable property of saving untold numbers of children, pets, neighbours etc. from the clumsy from-scratch efforts of intoxicated “parents”, and the concomitant hideous fiery deaths of all concerned.
    I thoroughly approve of oven chips (fries to you lot), onion rings, and so on. Even chicken goujons (tendies, as I suppose you say).
    We still get the occasional drunken old geezer blowing the (brownstone) front wall out of his apartment trying to make (English-type) chips on a gas hob.

  234. @ScarletNumber

    There have always been the fat among us, but not like there are these days. Andrew Anglin has extensive essays on obesity, diet, food additives, plastic packaging, hormones, low IQ etc.

  235. Given the likelihood of war in the Donbass and who stands to profit maybe Russiagate was allowed to linger as long as it has without serious opposition or proper prosecution because the people who would have had to sign off on those things see it as a useful way to neutralize anti-war sentiment that might prevent a nice little lucrative war with Russia.

    • Agree: J.Ross
  236. El Dato says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    an aspiring Pretty Little Thing model

    Like those “aspiring rappers” who need to be removed to remote desert islands where they can aspire to fend for themselves.

  237. @Wilkey

    Whilst I agree with your overall point, and with the other comments here, that these people often just prefer unhealthy food to fruit and veg, I will just note that keeping a week’s worth of frozen vegies and milk on hand requires a working, medium sized refrigerator and freezer. There are probably a few people out there who don’t have that. Appliances also increase the electricity bill and require expensive repairs when they break down.

  238. @Jack D

    The original Aldi stores were very low frills and sort of grim looking and tended to be in low income areas and catered to rock bottom shoppers.

    Thug gunned down at Aldi.

    Lately they have moved more upscale with fancy modern decor and more modern prices to match. You can’t eat decor – they should have left the stores alone.

    That and all the TV ads didn’t help keep prices down.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  239. @ScarletNumber

    Goes to show that fat shaming is the last acceptable prejudice.

    Whatever you say, tubby.

  240. @stillCARealist

    I’m fat, but only moderately jolly. I’m a tad too spergy to be lots of fun.

  241. Alden says:
    @AnotherDad

    Many supermarkets have big florist sections in the major entrance from the parking lot. It’s really nice to walk into beautiful flowers before another horrible food shopping chore. The only thing that tempts me is cheese, good cheese. Food shopping just symbolizes woman’s work is never done.

    Buy food, put away food, cut up food, cook food, serve food, put food away again, clean up , do dishes, empty dishwasher, put dishes away, soak pans over night , wash outside of pots and pans with ammonia or copper cleaner every once in a while, empty garbage . Repeat repeat repeat and repeat till death.

    Probably why I hate open plan houses with a huge kitchen always in sight unless you go into the bedroom and shut the door. Work work work and it’s never finished.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  242. @ScarletNumber

    While I wouldn’t call this a racist blog per se, I do find it funny that a blogger and his readers who believe in HBD seem to have a hard time grasping that some people are more likely to be fat than others.

    SN, i doubt very much Steve is in denial of these metabolic propensities, and i sure as heck am not.

    I’m not off in some fringe, but i’m probably a standard deviation from normal toward “natural fat”. I was a fat kid–with some overeating–while my brother could pack it away and was trim.

    I’ve spent my life very conscious that i can’t just “eat what i feel like” or i’ll blimp up. Yet i’m only sporting about 10 lbs of excess adipose tissue. (157 this morning.) I don’t eat until noon. Eat a light dinner and try to wrap no later than 7ish so i’m getting 15 hours or so for my body to get into ketosis. I don’t starve myself and enjoy food very much. But keep the meals in check. Light on sweets, rarely dessert unless holidays/birthdays or entertaining–and still often skip or go small. Avoid the big carb dumps. And drinking only occasionally–again with company. Today’s my fast day for April–i do at least one every month, simply to demonstrate will. All my efforts keep me … even. And, of course, i know–you know–guys who can pack it away and don’t put on weight. (Or at least they could until they got up in years and their metabolism slowed.)

    But Americans overall have packed on an average extra 25lbs, during my lifetime. The average American man when i was kid, looked something like me–a bit of extra flab. Now? Sooooeey.
    When i was a kid, the moms in my neighborhood–the moms!–would were on average … pretty nice looking women. (A few–like my mom–would be considered MILFs today. Every boy thought Mrs. Murphy was hot.) American women now … holy cow. The average American woman weighs more than i do.

    The genetic propensity didn’t change. American health authorities gave bad advice–the whole “low fat” carb heavy nonsense. (Exactly the wrong advice. It’s fast carbs making Americans fat.) But the driver is simply that food in America is dirt cheap relative to incomes–even for the working class–and about half of Americans simply do not have the will power–or else the desire–to contain their eating.

    Being fat, is simply not like being dumb. One can make the most of your IQ, keep your brain active and acquire knowledge. But you really can’t just make your cerebral cortex bigger or your synapses fire faster. One can push back from the plate–and get your ass up out of the chair.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @Anon
  243. @Jonathan Mason

    Neighborhoods with only convenience or food stores as you said, JM, are mostly food deserts. Grocery stores have long since fled those neighborhoods because of theft and lousy workforce. They were all over DC, in Maryland outside of DC and of course Baltimore was and is full of them. They’re mostly in black areas, of course. And I can believe kids are in starvation mode there, outside of the crap they eat.

  244. @Expletive Deleted

    I’ve seen preppers making the same point about how banning non-approved sources of energy facilitates social control. Food for thought. I shall have to look more into it.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  245. Amazing how many people pretty much “live” on fast food.

    That is the perfect recipe for obesity, heart disease, diabetes etc… etc…

    Another consequence of the continued war on the family and feminism.

  246. notsaying says:
    @Jack D

    The $807 figure would be the maximum, which most people don’t get.

    If everybody got the maximum there would a lot fewer people going hungry. There are millions of families of 5 who get less than half of that a month in Food Stamps, some less than a quarter. The government assumes that people can supplement Food Stamps with cash from their jobs but with the much higher rents and other expenses that people have, that is often not possible, or at least not 100%.

    I can only tell you that where I live most of the people are white and even the almost all white towns have about half the kids on free or reduced lunch. The Food Bank is very heavily used and now they send some kids home with food backpacks over the weekend. The high school at the county seat which does have some minorities serves breakfast, lunch, snack and dinner. Most of the students in this small city qualify for free or reduced lunch.

    Another segment with food needs are the elderly. If you have income of around $14,500 for one person, you only get $16 in Food Stamps. If half your income goes to rent, you might not have enough for food after paying other bills.

    So yeah, I find this 33 million figure believable.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  247. @The Alarmist

    I see those in DC and Boston in the offices. There’s Boston or DC or NYC and the the Pacific with the requisite desert sands and cactus. The rest of the world doesn’t matter either. Boston is a real life brain trust, but NYC is discovering its not as important as it thinks. I saw some fluff in WSJ that luxury categories of residential RE selling again right alongside of near panic articles about all the square footage of commercial office space that’s vacant and may remain so. Luxury flats aren’t going to feed the bulldogs. NYC, given the situation, along with all the other great cities drove commercial out. Not necessary and since the police have been stood down, it isn’t safe anymore anyway. They screwed up. Covid proves, we don’t NEED NYC, anymore. Or any crime ridden city.

  248. @AnotherDad

    That’s a lot of typing to say that Americans are now fat. It’s the truth. What the commenter and others do not seem to understand is that the same averages apply here as anywhere else. Americans are — on average — now much fatter than ever before. This is obvious to anyone old enough to remember, or to anyone who just bothers to look at old photographs or films.

    Travel overseas. Then you will become very self-conscious of how big you are, even if you are not fat. Americans are big. Very big. And it is obvious to everyone else.

    People who jump up and argue against this have a fat problem. Bluntly put, but true.

    Why do so many Americans get prescribed blood pressure medicines? Because they are fat, and because the pharmaceutical companies conspired to lower the standards for blood pressure. The fact is, even if you are healthy, athletic and slim, your blood pressure will rise as you age. That is normal.

    Being fat with an outsized American diet and slovenly, unhealthy lifestyle is not. Get outside. Move around. Do something besides eat and watch TV. And don’t expect a gym membership or your weights in the basement to do the trick. You have to move around. You have to put your body to work. — And not just lift weights, BTW. Don’t fool yourself and become an overweight, muscle-lifter. That happens. Get real and get out.

  249. I have a family member who works in property development in Australia. He told me that a representative from a fast food chain that was building a new restaurant joked that his mission was to make Australians as fat and unhealthy as possible.

    Many a true word….

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  250. @Adam Smith

    Near where I live, an old New England mill town an old fat lady tipped herself off a curb from one of those and was run over by a National Grid powerline service truck. It was messy, as in call the fire department to hose away the goo. They’re all over the place. The stores have them lined up by the dozen. ADA, no doubt. Fatties are on the list.

    • LOL: Alden
  251. @ScarletNumber

    You’re not skinny, I take it. (Neither am I, to be sure.)

    For some reason, the only guys who rib me about my weight are conservative boomer men with gay millennial sons. I’m on friendly terms with most of them, so I just smile and nod until the conversation drifts to another subject.

    One day, a guy I know was telling me, “My son was chubby as a kid. I used to ride him pretty hard about his weight problem. He got pretty upset at times, but he ended up thanking me in the end.”

    I smiled and thought to myself, “That’s good, because gays tend to demand physical perfection. You rode your son hard so that, one day, he could ride his boyfriend even harder. No doubt his years of overeating taught him how to swallow even the bulkiest sticks of sausage. You must be so proud.”

    Another guy likes to brag about his son the doctor. Sometimes I’m tempted to make a snide remark. (Alas, I never do.)

    “Did your son ever consider going into proctology? It’s a lucrative field. Anal-reconstructive surgery is a booming business these days. But, like they say, a doctor who treats himself has a fool for a patient. Hey, did I ever tell you the anecdote I heard about the gay guy whose sphincter lost its elasticity? Well, one evening, he was at an elegant dinner party, wearing a classy white outfit … oh, I’m digressing. Tell me about your son’s most recent trip to Amsterdam again. Now, I forget – is he a cokehead or a heroin addict?”

    Most of the time, the *real* conversation is the one going on inside my head. The crap coming out of my mouth is just polite boilerplate.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  252. Alden says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Check out the calories in a slice of plain white bread and whole grain healthy bread. 100 for the plain white and 180-220 for the healthy liberal snob bread.

    Is anyone but me old enough to remember when bagels were small? They are the size of saucers nowadays. I don’t like them. There’s a reataurant near me that has piles of cinnamon rolls displayed. Huge enough for 2 people 3 inches high about 5 inches diameter.

  253. Jack D says:
    @Alden

    Verphy lives (and Asiah lived) in the UK so there might be some white social workers left.

    • Replies: @Alden
  254. ic1000 says:
    @ScarletNumber

    > I do find it funny that a blogger and his readers who believe in HBD seem to have a hard time grasping that some people are more likely to be fat than others.

    I’m a reader here (worse — an HBD-believing Boomer reader), yet I find this point easy to grasp. Common sense, my lyin’ eyes, and now genetics papers all agree. Genes matter, and they make some people more likely to be fat than others.

    Common sense, my and others’ memories, and statistics also tell me that Americans are much more obese than when I was a youth. Environment also matters, as others on this thread have noted.

  255. @ic1000

    Another reminder that blacks have nothing against lynching in principle, they just don’t like being the ones lynched. They’re delighted to lynch others, such as police officers.

    Similar to the way that Leftists have no principled objection to “MaCarthyite” tactics, they just want to be in charge of them. (Nothing McCarthy did comes near to what the Left in this country has been doing to its opponents.)

  256. @Stan Adams

    Most of the time, the *real* conversation is the one going on inside my head. The crap coming out of my mouth is just polite boilerplate.

    And I thought I was he only one…

  257. TTSSYF says:
    @Anon

    That pretty much describes the professionals in my office.

  258. Jack D says:
    @notsaying

    The government assumes that people can supplement Food Stamps with cash from their jobs

    How dare they assume that. The government should pay everyone a guaranteed income and we can all stay home and play video games. The tax revenue generated from computerized trading profits will pay for some of it and for the rest we’ll just print up money. What could go wrong?

    • Replies: @notsaying
  259. J.Ross says:
    @Alden

    Watching the excellent Night They Raided Minsky’s I was really struck by the minor historical detail (I don’t know if this is true) that “an order of bagel” consisted of two untoasted unbuttered bagels. The bagels I ate in the late eighties and early nineties were already much bigger than a baseball.

  260. J.Ross says:
    @Goingblankagain

    Excellent point. Recall that panel “we want to make brands religions and make consumers fanatics.” Almost everything now going wrong can be traced back to companies (which would be perfectly respectable if they were just trying to sell you a plane ticket or a soda pop) deciding that they are God.

  261. J.Ross says:
    @Alden

    Listen to this, it’s like if I whined about long distance running or Lagertha complained about sobriety.

  262. Alden says:
    @AnotherDad

    We need tribal White Nationalists, not conservatives. Even if you believe conservative ideas positions and activities are useful and good for Whites, conservatism is a total failure.

    Time to get rid of conservatism.

  263. @res

    I don’t agree. Between work and study I spent almost 15 years on the campus of a major Australian university. My observations were that the ones splashing money around on coffee (Starbucks is not common here), booze and concerts either live with their parents or get a subsidy from them. The students living in a share house, with only the government allowance and a minimum wage part-time job for income, mostly do watch their pennies.

    It’s also increasingly difficult to live a normal life without a mobile phone so I will give them a pass on that. Again, the people sporting the very latest and most expensive models are not the ones scraping by on Austudy and 10 hours/week at K-Mart.

  264. @Lot

    If old Ashleigh and Stacey “Tank” Abrams cut their intake back enough to get their BMIs back down into double digits, that would probably free up enough food to solve the whole food insecurity problem.

  265. Alden says:
    @Jack D

    Oh, perhaps if they live in western Wales Devon or Cornwall night be a few near retirement White social workers.

  266. rexl says:
    @res

    Yes, all of the migrants had phones. A fellow was pushing a shopping down our street and had a mobile phone. By the way, none of the migrants would be described by any of the words listed by Steve.

  267. Cato says:

    We have rich country problems: obesity, not caloric deprivation. The “poorer” the American, the more likely he/she is to be obese. Not what one would see in Niger.

  268. Kaz says:
    @AKAHorace

    Rice, lentils, beans, are nutritious and extremely cheap.

    That aside junk food is so fortified that the main problem with it now is the lack of fiber and consuming excess calories.

  269. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, the 90 percent continue to gorge on food:

    Family of the Fresno man who died in taco eating contest is suing Grizzlies’ owner
    https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article250448501.html

    The son of a Fresno man who died during an amateur taco eating contest in 2019 is suing the organizers of the event for negligence.

    Marshall Hutchings, 18, alleges that his father Dana Hutchings, 41, was not made aware of the risks and danger involved in a food eating competition.

    The event was held on Aug. 13, 2019, at Chukchansi Park during a Fresno Grizzlies minor league baseball game.

    The goal of the competition was for amateur competitors to devour as many tacos as possible during a certain amount of time. Professionals in the sport take great care to train and make themselves physically ready to participate, said Hutchings’ attorney, Martin Taleisnik, of the Sawl Law Group.

    Hutchings, who had never participated in an event like that before, collapsed several minutes into the eating contest. He had a mouth full of chewed and unchewed tacos obstructing his respiratory system, according to the lawsuit.

    Chukchansi staff rushed on stage and began cardiopulmonary resuscitation and used an automated external defibrillator. They also called 911 and when emergency personnel arrived they found Hutchings unconscious. He was taken to Community Regional Medical Center where he was later pronounced dead.

    The Fresno County Coroner’s Office later determined that Hutchings died of choking.

  270. @Buzz Mohawk

    Pizza started out as street food. It is very easy to make from scratch, and if one is really pushed for time use flatbread for the base. Omelettes and crepes can be made in 5 minutes. Soup is stupidly easy to make: add vegetables to water and heat. All of these are cheap and quick. Historically people have had far less cash and leisure time than we do today, yet they still cooked. No way I’m going to believe this ‘people are starving’ myth.

  271. HA says:
    @Anon

    “Second, ;disrupted eating patterns;? I know that some surveys of eating disorders include quesitons like, ;Have you skipped a meal in the last month?;”

    I haven’t read the article, so I’m going on what I learned the last time I listened to a reporter make an issue of this. Once he got to the “fine print” stage, he let slip that a significant portion of these people have mental-illness and/or substance issues. For example, meth has this magical way of melting away the pounds (and even teeth, based on the photos I’ve seen). So, if mom is regularly hitting that, and baby-daddy is behind bars, or else one of them is struggling with untreated schizophrenia or BPD, there’s a good chance mealtime occasionally becomes a sporadic affair. Sometimes the result is obesity, sometimes it’s malnutrition (and frequently, it’s both). All this has no doubt been exacerbated in the last year given the many children who are at home due to lockdowns. At least when the children were in school, the meals were regular and relatively nutritious.

    Making people aware of what is driving this tends to dampen the sympathy, and giving more benefits drug abusers and otherwise neglectful parents isn’t generally a popular issue with voters, so don’t expect reporters to be upfront about all this. That being said, I already noted I don’t have a subscription, and if the article clearly spells all this out, good for them.

  272. @bomag

    If you sincerely doubt (“doubt”) that, I advise you to use your brain as a filter for 000 buckshot.

    Colorado is not an important ag state and consumes more in infrastructure for ag than it produces in ag. Show me how Biden was trying to kill ag in Kansas or Nebraska.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
  273. @Captain Tripps

    Odd. In Australia the supermarket entrance is always into the fresh food section (Aldi is an exception because they tend not to sell produce here). You will often have to walk past the aisles of processed food to get to the meat or dairy aisles though.

    This reminds me of the hilarity some friends and I had several years ago with an American holiday ‘cookbook’ we’d found. Reading through it, most of the recipes didn’t involve actual cooking but rather assembling pre-prepared substances. E.g. buy a pie crust, empty a tin of pumpkin pie filling into it, sprinkle some flavoring on top. I suppose if you’ve been brought up on that, you might even prefer it to a pumpkin pie made from scratch.

  274. Wilkey says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    What these people seem to be complaining of isn’t a lack of food, but a lack of money/vouchers at the end of the month to buy the food that they want after they’ve spent money on other non-necessities.

    Yes, this. I occasionally had to scrimp for money between paychecks back in my first two years or so of college. The next 20 years of college went much better (/sarc). If you had asked me at the time I might have said that I was “starving,” but all that really meant was that I was having to get by on the canned tuna fish and frozen broccoli that I had bought weeks before but didn’t really want to eat.

    Ironically I now love broccoli and tuna fish and won’t go near much of the stuff my 19-year-old self thought of as “food.”

  275. anon[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I can take my wife and two kids to Golden Corral

    That company isn’t even in all 57 states yet.
    When did they expand to South America?

    • LOL: S. Anonyia
  276. wren says:

    OT: I debated checking the anagram site for Fantahun Girma Woldesenbet, but decided to leave it for the local pro.

  277. @Anonymous Jew

    I think it’s even easier than that. Junk food just tastes good. Mmmm…. sugar, fat, salt, calories… mmmmm…

    Do you value your waistline or not? If you do, for whatever reasons, you’ll resist the junk and stay thin. Think about booze. Drunkenness feels good, and it’s fun. So you drink too much and waste money, time, energy, and dignity. But if you value sobriety and all that comes with it, you’ll abstain (or moderate if you can).

    All risky behavior could come under this umbrella too. Fast-driving, gambling, pot, showing off, staying out all night. It’s fun and it feels good.

  278. notsaying says:
    @Jack D

    You don’t offer any real answers to the problems, just anger and resentment that they exist.

    I have said what I have seen in a mostly white area. Things are getting worse for the people in my county, not better. I think tens of millions of white American families are finding it harder and harder to live like their own parents and grandparents did. The downhill spiral is painful and mostly unreported. But the reality is borne out in statistics of increased hunger, substance abuse, mental illness and suicide.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Desiderius
  279. RAZ says:
    @Patrick Boyle

    True.

    Food Stamps were enacted for the benefit of American farmers. Not for the benefit of poor underfed American consumers.

    A program that limited SNAP purchases to real food wouldn’t bother me. But crap like soda and chips are permitted. And good luck if you think you can get anywhere working against the lobbyists for Frito Lay to change that. And see Williamson of National Review in his “Big White Ghetto” about Appalachia (virtually all white) and the use of EBT enabled purchase of cases of soda to barter for drugs.

  280. @sayless

    @sayless It’s a show trial. Derek Chauvin doesn’t have a snowball’s chance. Hope I’m wrong.

    If it’s any consolation, you are not wrong. Even so, it’s going to be a long summer, and it’s not a bad idea to make sure that fire extinguishers and extra sheets of plywood are at hand.

    No matter the outcome of the trial there will be unrest. Never thought I’d write something like that. Bummer.

  281. @Hannah Katz

    “I CAN’T BREATHE”

    It might help, miss, if you took those basketballs out of your pockets.

    • LOL: Hannah Katz
  282. @Lot

    “/ASHLEIGHTHELION”?

    More like Ashleigh the walrus.

  283. Jack D says:
    @notsaying

    Sure if you take drugs or consume alcohol excessively it’s hard to feed your family. And that’s depressing and sometimes leads to suicide. The solution is not to take drugs or consume alcohol excessively. (This means you, Hunter Biden.)

    If you are in an area of the country that is economically depressed, move to an area that is not. People walk here all the way from Guatemala to get work and when they get here they find it. They find it because they are willing to do an honest days work and willing to travel to where the work is.

    If living like your parents means getting hired at the tire factory when you finish high school and staying there until you retire and knowing that the union will save your ass if you show up drunk or stoned, then no you can’t live like your parents anymore. You’re gonna have to show some initiative and make some effort. I realize that not everyone can learn to code but there’s gotta be SOMETHING that you can do if you go out there and hustle. Paint houses. Fix small engines. Put up fences. Anything. If you sit on your ass and play video games and smoke dope it’s not going to come to you.

  284. @photondancer

    Before the last (ever) miners’ strike of ’84, antinuclear sentiment was huge in the island. Protests, sabotage, riots, the lot. But not for the reasons any honest capitalist or free-marketeer might suspect. Very little hippy-dippyness involved (although the record may differ due to it being entirely the product of Norf Lahndahn Liberals).

    Eliminating the coal industry (thanks, MacGregor; I hope you enjoyed rotting to death at Blue Rocks, alone in the pissing rain. Obvously totally worth it, eh?) was the keystone of total central governmental control over the populace. That and “cheap” North Sea gas. The plan was to transition over to pure nuclear using those as a stop-gap.
    Then anyone who kicked off .. could be turned off. Streetlights to hospitals, stoves to trains. Telly to traffic lights.
    TOTAL CONTROL! Of the most intimate aspects of their physical lives and (keenly anticipated) deaths. The bureaucrats’ wet-dream.

    So people figured this out for themselves, and went “AtomKraft? Nein Danke!” (but in English, Welsh and Gaelic, the freaks). “Coal not dole!”

    Thank God the Chinks got involved recently, and fucked the whole scheme up royally just by .. acting like chinks.

    • Replies: @photondancer
  285. @Brutusale

    We’ve started cooking about everything. My wife enjoys it and it helps me get my greens.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  286. @Alden

    Is anyone but me old enough to remember when bagels were small? They are the size of saucers nowadays.

    Portion sizes for everything are insane now.

    The appetizers at most restaurants easily serve as a full-sized meal for the few Americans that aren’t total fatties.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, S. Anonyia
  287. @notsaying

    I was trying to make ends meet substitute teaching ten years ago and looked into some food banks so I know that’s out there, but that’s a question of not being able to make it on our own not of lack of support being there. With the way Bidan’s framing this he’s just doing the same thing that’s already been done twelve times over, like pretty much everything else he’s doing.

    Solutions should focus on what’s standing in the way of people supporting ourselves (#1 of course open borders) which would kill both birds with one stone.

    • Replies: @notsaying
  288. @JohnPlywood

    “Kill yourself for disagreeing with me.”

    “Colorado doesn’t matter, and one shouldn’t ever bother in investing federal funds in a possibly less than profitable region/persons.” (What a libertarian take from you, good sir! What might even say…rightoid?)

    “Show me how this is ruining the state that doesn’t matter.” (Ignoring the proffered link to initiative 16 and then further investigating it.)

    Nice way to rhetorically cover your bases!

  289. MBlanc46 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The only way to improve it is to dismantle it and rebuild it from the ground up.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  290. @The Alarmist

    Thanks. I’ve seen this one before, and I was kind of picturing it when I wrote that comment.

  291. “Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?”

    The same people who were fooled by the NYT declaring that there was no famine in Ukraine in 1933.

    Jason DeParle can be the Walter Duranty of his generation.

  292. @Jack D

    I want to move to Palestine, and mine the copious salt of the Jordan Valley (my forefathers were primitive yet adventurous industrial chemists). How do I slip in under the wire without LYING??

  293. @Desiderius

    Is this some sort of circumlocution to dodge impropriety at Easter?
    Do tell.

  294. @George

    Nope, the whole time, the school district was distributing not just lunches but 2 meals per day for parents to rip off the taxpayer for errr, pick up, and then they made it 10 meals per week to be picked up on Mondays. Food is extremely cheap. I think WIC has been mentioned already multiple times along with the SNAP cards. You are not aware of what goes on in this country, George.

    Any complaints about lacking food are lies or just severe laziness.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  295. Malcolm Y says:

    If you listen to radio, as I do, especially late at night you tend to hear a lot of public service announcements. Well they have the one on “food insecurity” it’s the usual Ad Council and some government bureau; and they have fairly famous people like Danica Patrick the girl race car driver or some guys from the Goo Goo Dolls (?) and their saying stuff like Matilda signs up for every after school activity so she can get something eat so she won’t drop dead of starvation. But I thought someone debunked this stuff years ago by reading the questions making up this survey which were vague and designed to get the desired answer. I think they were like “In the past month have you postponed a meal?” Evidently this crap has everlasting life.

  296. @Norm der Ploom

    Switzerland manages it in a way without getting everyone fat on Corn Goods.

  297. Jack D says:
    @Joe Stalin

    The good samaritan shooter was a fine upstanding citizen – just the kind of immigrant that America needs. We also need his 9 children:

    http://archive.jsonline.com/news/crime/convicted-of-tax-fraud-gun-rights-advocate-now-must-relinqish-firearms-b99492486z1-302221901.html/

  298. @Charles St. Charles

    (too soon??)

    Too late, more like it. Why didn’t you say anything to her? I really like their stuff, BTW, no kidding.

    That guitarist is really jamming starting @ 01:32, then more at the end.

  299. Ragno says:
    @Ragno

    Hey, come ON already!!

    Again?!? ….NINE hours in moderation?

    If you’ve got some long-held grudge against me (?) then be a goddamn man about it and say it out loud.

    • Replies: @Ragno
  300. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    •Troll

  301. Jiminy says:
    @Alden

    It’s funny you should say lard is hard to get, because when I read that I remembered how two years ago butter was very hard to find. The price of butter went high and bakers were having trouble sourcing enough for their businesses. No idea what caused it though, maybe ongoing droughts. Whereas I remember watching my wife’s old gran sitting down with her arm wildly swinging the butter churn, fat spraying everywhere up the wall, whirring away. Half an hour later, butter. And a gran with one big arm, like a fiddler crab.

  302. @Expletive Deleted

    Interesting. I don’t pay much attention to the news so the China thing had passed me by.

    I was too young at the time to think about why Thatcher wanted to destroy the coal miners. Now it makes more sense. In The Day of the Triffids Wyndham has coal mining areas as being the only ones known to survive the catastrophe relatively well thanks to their strong communities. They lose no time in setting themselves up while everyone else is floundering around trying to find someone to rescue them.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  303. Jack D says:
    @Expletive Deleted

    200°C/390F (-ish)

    By a happy coincidence, right at the range of typical oven temperatures (160-200C or so) the Fahrenheit temperature is almost exactly (or in the case of 160C, exactly) double the Celsius so if you ever see a foreign recipe in America (or vice versa) you can just double (halve) the Celsius (or F) and this will get you close enough. Many ovens run up to 25F or more different than their set temperature so being off by a few degrees in your conversion isn’t going to make any difference.

    If you don’t have all day to bake your potatoes, give them 5 or 6 minutes in the microwave first to get the centers heated up and then 30 min in the oven at 400F to finish. The results will be indistinguishable from potatoes that were made completely in the oven. You can’t really bake potatoes in the microwave but giving them a head start in this way is very effective.

    • Thanks: photondancer
  304. @Alden

    Don’t mince words Alden, say what you really mean.

    Kidding aside, you’re right. My parents and grandparents started teaching me how to cook around age ten. It’s what happens in healthy families.

    Grandpa fought in Tinian, Saipan and Guadalcanal, and taught me how to make USMC shit on a shingle with milk gravy. A hearty breakfast for certain. He also invented the hot dog taquito.

    Grandma was from New Zealand, so I learned how to make lamb chops, boiled potatoes and dandelion greens. I still have her recipe for 1950’s style ground beef tacos.

    Mom let me deep fry fries after school unsupervised with lots of Lawry’s season salt. She’ll tell you I’m a better cook than her at Thanksgiving.

    Dad taught me how to make a bolognese sauce so I could have dinner ready by the time the folks got home from work.

    All of these are essential skills to living a full life, along with knowing how to be a shade tree mechanic.

    As for knives, carbon is great and stays really sharp. But I invested in some really expensive damascus steel knives from Japan. Best of both worlds: layered carbon and stainless. You should try one sometime.

    • Replies: @Alden
  305. Jack D says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Actually I think it is the other way around. The $20/lb cheese allows Wegmans to sell store brand chicken for $1 /lb and 5 lbs. of store brand flour for $1.20. Anything in Wegman’s labeled “family pack” tends to be a pretty good deal – I gather that they do this to compete with Costco.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  306. notsaying says:
    @Jack D

    I am sorry that you are happy to see our jobs going to illegal immigrants who are better people than us and assume our own people don’t want to work hard.

  307. Michelle says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Wow, you commenters are really showing your true colors to accuse this guy of being a “Troll”. What a bunch of scummy bastards are allowed to comment here. Just shows what a champion of free speech, Steve really is.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  308. glib says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    You are somewhat correct. Store milk is such a vile concoction I doubt it could contribute to anyone’s health. You can probably make it quite a bit healthier with an (expensive) yogurt maker and some kefir seeds. Beans from the store have very high amounts of gliphosate in them these days, since it is common practice to dry the crop before combining to avoid combine jams.

    Since you can not gorge on proteins without side effects, let me mention that beef back fat is given away almost free (in my case, for free). Then you can gorge on much healthier tallow without limitations, specially if grass fed. If you find the right producer, he will try to give away (grass fed) organ meat that normal customers don’t want. I am amazed always when I buy a yearly supply of vit. B12 for $2 (one lamb liver). am often gifted or given a steep discount on tongue, spleen, heart, kidney, and lamb heads. Bones are often free, if you can afford to simmer them for two days, and freeze the broth.

    But they are all niche opportunities that will vanish over time. It is really difficult (IMO, impossible) while buying at big boxes only. Supermarket food is just one of the means for the ongoing mass depopulation.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Anon
  309. @Achmed E. Newman

    Why didn’t you say anything to her?

    Well, I was in Elementary School.

    Their music was omnipresent on ‘70s AM radio, you couldn’t miss it. A talented lady with a messed up head.

    That dude can really make the guitar face, right?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  310. notsaying says:
    @Desiderius

    Certainly all the immigration that has gone on since the 1970s has made life a lot more difficult as it is for lower income people. Greatly increasing immigration like Biden wants to do is madness. We can only hope Biden isn’t able to import as much additional poverty as he planned.

    We have to get wages up. More vo-tech training would be a great idea, as would taking steps to reduce the college dropout rates.

    Increased housing costs present the biggest challenge to many people but as the population grows at a much higher rate than we add affordable housing, the situation is only getting worse every year. If housing and healthcare keep going up above the general inflation rate, that will eat up all the gains of an increased minimum wage and more.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  311. @Jack D

    Maybe there should be a law requiring it to be tinted with green food coloring so people won’t get mixed up.

    Wisconsin once prohibited food coloring in margarine, which is otherwise white. Quebec did, too, until 2008.

    Yellow margarine was banned in Wisconsin until 1967, the last ban of its kind. The law was overturned only after one state senator (who was particularly anti-oleo) agreed to a blind taste test. He chose margarine over butter and allowed the law to be reversed. It turns out that, for health reasons, his family was secretly serving him margarine smuggled in from another state, which is why he thought it was butter!

    https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/wisconsin-waged-war-on-margarine-and-the-dairy-industry-won/

    The 1870s Dairy Lobby Turned Margarine Pink So People Would Buy Butter– Margarine or butter? The question has deep roots, and you shouldn’t even ask it in Wisconsin

  312. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    You’re suggesting that a genetic propensity for obesity simply means a slower metabolism. But that’s not the main issue. People get fat because they eat too much, and it’s the propensity to eat too much that’s genetic.

    It turns out that “the will power–or else the desire–to contain… eating” is precisely what the gene variants associated with obesity affect. GWAS studies have found that they act on the brain.

    You’ve described eating strategies that work reasonably well for you, but the empirical evidence suggests that they don’t work as well for other people who aren’t you. Yes, they would work if people followed them, but “having willpower and desire to follow eating strategies” isn’t somehow off in another sphere that’s disconnected from a genetic propensity to obesity. They’re different sides of the same coin.

    Yes, most fat contemporary Americans would have been thin in 1950. But the genes that create motivation to eat junk food cause obesity when junk food is ubiquitous. Which it is now but wasn’t then.

  313. @Achmed E. Newman

    Bastards are you stalking me?

    Valerie the sweet jew girl who didn’t even know she was jewish and neither did I (apart from her flagrantly semitic surname? How does that work?) who was my first love, from way back in high school from 14 to 2nd year uni looked exactly like Saint Karen, but thinner (and less … feral? what is it?) at the time (synchronous).

    Not the later Skeletor diseased version. Pay attention to the “Lead Sister ” version. At 0:45, from here

    “A star on earth, and a star in heaven”.
    Her star, or even her planet’s got its own astronomical number. Somewhere at the back of the Horsehead, I believe.
    The only enticement I have to live as long as I have, is to see good people get there.

    C’mon NASA. C’mon Elon! Sort your shit out, and let’s do it.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  314. @Achmed E. Newman

    The Carpenters were the pride of Downey, California.

    Karen was a helluva drummer too!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  315. AKAHorace says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Most of the adjuncts have Ph.D.’s, and it’s criminal that they were sold a bill of goods, but the solution is to stop producing so many in useless subjects.

    This is also a problem in useful STEM subjects. Most lab work in done by Ph.D. students. There are simply not enough tenure track positions for them. As they don’t have a lot of experience they are more likely to make mistakes; as they need to produce results they are under pressure to overstate their results. As profs have little direct experience of lab work (especially in molecular biology where techniques are constantly changing) they don’t get good practical advice from them.

    Profs should be given technicians to do their lab work and not be assessed on how many Ph.Ds they produce. Technicians would produce more reliable results and not be under pressure to get results that pointed one way or another (e.g. supporting the profs theories, being dramatic enough to be publishable). Continually working with technicians would keep the profs in touch with practical laboratory problems. Producing fewer Ph.Ds would mean that the degree would be a better investment of time.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  316. AKAHorace says:
    @Michelle

    Wow, you commenters are really showing your true colors to accuse this guy of being a “Troll”. What a bunch of scummy bastards are allowed to comment here. Just shows what a champion of free speech, Steve really is.

    Omar Mateen describes anyone who disagrees with him as a “troll”. He has made fun of Sailer for talking about his experience surviving cancer. You are right, Sailer has a remarkable devotion to free speach.

    • Agree: ic1000
  317. @photondancer

    Willing to chat, but I reckon elsewhere, to avoid compromising our glorious links-and-fairway-striding host.
    It’s still a hot topic out here on the reef.
    “Who betrayed the miners?” People get filled in even now.
    And “No-one likes a scab, son”, generations later. Their families did pay, but government will not admit it.
    Did you ever hear of the strike of ’08 in NZ, Blackball and that?

    My g-grandad went to navvy on the railways all up and down both the north island and then the south. Where all his kids were born. Grandma was born at Ahaura. The coal-owners had locked them out in Lancs. (Inglandistan). Because they went on strike when the wages were cut. His entire family were colliers since way back.
    Seems like you can never get away from it. Wat do?

  318. @AKAHorace

    That’s interesting.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  319. Alden says:
    @petit bourgeois

    I just get furious at these guys who blame everything on women . Including the ridiculous claim women don’t know how to cook. Or refuse to cook. Fast food restaurants are really geared for single men. But most men cook for themselves. And all families cook. And kids like to cook.

    Some people have told me their kids and teens came home from school and watched cooking shows. They’re eating snacks anyway in the kitchen. So they start cooking often following the cook show recipes. Of course that was when it was Rachel Ray etc cooking meals not cooking contests.

    UNZ should rename the site Wehatewomen.com

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  320. Alden says:
    @glib

    I love liver high protein low calorie . Never cooked it much husband won’t eat it.

  321. Anon[886] • Disclaimer says:
    @glib

    Isn’t a lot of that a risk of Mad Cow disease?

    • Replies: @glib
  322. @Alden

    Thank you for the cooking tips and recipes!

    • Thanks: Alden
  323. Nodwink says:
    @Aeronerauk

    If this post upset you, then you can chill by downloading “Montero (Call Me By Your Name)” by Lil Nas X.

    ENJOY!

  324. @Alden

    Pie crust has been ruined by the Mrs Buttinsky liberal witches who banned lard. It’s easy to make perfect flaky crunchy pie crust with real lard. Lucky we have enough Hispanics in Ca you can always find real pig Manteca.

    I have the benefit of a wife from an old country. She learned all about ingredients from her grandmother. She found a Hungarian delicatessen that sells lard, duck fat, and other things she uses. When we walk in, she speaks Hungarian with the man who owns the place. I stand there and smell the smoked meats that are hanging behind the man. He smokes them in the back part of the building. My eyes have been opened, as have my other senses.

  325. Old Prude says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Rockstar is vile and deceptive. I thought I would be getting methamphetamines and cocaine. Nothing doing, but now I can boast I’ve tasted horse piss.

  326. @Half Canadian

    I would imagine at least one of those pictured has a diabetic amputation in their future.

  327. @George

    They still got the meals at drop off / pick up times. In my part of MI everyone qualified who had school age kids. We received an $800 EBT card, as well. Purchased a load of meats and poultry with it to go into our freezer in garage. It’s all a subsidized racket. No one, though, is starving.

  328. Seriously, who is fooled by this kind of propaganda?

    biden voters and any shitlib paid to promote lies.

  329. @Charles St. Charles

    Mr. St. Charles, I was joking regarding your telling her, of course. Yes, that’s what I noticed too about the guitarist! It’s nice playing, but I don’t think it’s so difficult, and he’s so into it, that his facial expression was required. It was for the girls, I’m sure – maybe Karen.

  330. @petit bourgeois

    I hadn’t known they were Californians, P.B. Yeah, I put her drumming just under that of John Bonham. I kid! At least she didn’t choke on her own vomit, a thing that happened to many of those hard-drinking drug taking rockers like Bonham. She probably didn’t eat enough to vomit, so there was that …

  331. glib says:
    @Anon

    no. it is all grass fed and I have to go to the producer to get the meat. Mad cow cases are always related to cows eating cows.

  332. craig says:
    @Alden

    Struck a nerve, I see. Not one but two spittle-flecked replies from you to the same comment!

    Not yet a codger (GenX), got an ‘old woman’ and a grown child, a house I own outright, and cook Southern food from scratch regularly. You’re going to have to come up with new material.

  333. @Alden

    UNZ should rename the site Wehatewomen.com

    To be fair, no one hates some particular woman more than some other woman. Even the ex-wife is more hated by the second wife than she is by her ex-husband.

  334. ic1000 says:
    @AKAHorace

    A college grad typically enrolls in a biomedical PhD program because he or she aspires to be an independent scientist and run their own lab, some day.

    Biomedical research is expensive. The number of independent labs is constrained by the budgets of the funders (NIH, NSF, Howard Hughes, Wellcome Trust, etc.). These grow at low-single-digit percentages, annually — almost flat, ex-inflation.

    Suppose each established lab graduates a student every other year. These newly minted scientists have no trouble with the next rung in the academic research ladder, working as postdoctoral fellows and such. But after that: trouble.

    To a large extent, you are joining the back of a queue, to apply for a position that has opened up after a currently-funded Principal Investigator has retired, died, or changed careers.

    Of course, there are alternatives: you can move to industry, take an adjunct position, drive for Uber Eats, or become a science journalist (in declining order of desirability).

    Funders get a lot of bang per buck, because most of the bench work is done by postdocs and students. Their pay is much lower than would be merited by their specialized skills and their hours worked — compensation comes in the form of future opportunities. Specifically, the chance to found and run an independent academic lab.

    This career path is structured like a pyramid scheme. If applicants to PhD programs were less naive and came to understand how the odds work against their dreams, many would choose to do something else.

  335. @Expletive Deleted

    Daubney. Is that D’Aubigny or D’Albini??

    I was never too good at spelling and that was the spelling on the internet for my dad’s people.

    Daubney reminds me of Dabney Coleman and he was a good comedic foil to Parton and Fonda and Tomlin in 9 to 5.

    Coleman has Randolph and Wharton ancestry and he might have got the Dabney from somebody who knew some family history and he was born in Texas and the southerners are more likely to have Norman ancestry than Northerners who were East Anglian.

    George Washington was an Anglo-Norman with Saxon and Norman blood just like William the Conqueror and Washington led the effort to topple the existing Ruling Class and install an American born Ruling Class with the Massachusetts people and the mid-Atlantic people.

    Huntington says British Protestant settler nation.

    Buchanan says European Christian.

    I say both are right to describe the ancestral origins of the USA.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  336. BB753 says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    Maybe the plan is for illegal immigrants to be on the menu for starving Americans. As gross as it sounds, it would at least make more sense than the usual propaganda: we need more immigrants ’cause they fix everything because of reasons…unknown.
    Make America more like Mexico… of old, with cannibalism and mexicans turned into much needed proteins.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  337. @Jack D

    If you don’t have all day to bake your potatoes, give them 5 or 6 minutes in the microwave first to get the centers heated up and then 30 min in the oven at 400F to finish.

    Still way too much time and effort.

    Quarter baking potato, place on ceramic dish, microwave on high (1100W) for 4 minutes, remove, apply butter, seasonings, etc. to taste, enjoy.

    Hey, I’m not dead yet!

  338. Ragno says:
    @Ragno

    My complaint gets posted, but the original comments never do: they now languish in Moderator Jail for nearly 24 hours!!

    OK, I get it….well, I don’t, but I can certainly take a hint – particularly when they’re this heavy-handed.

    Take care.

  339. This is too much discussion.
    Read ‘The Carnivore Code’.

  340. AKAHorace says:

    This career path is structured like a pyramid scheme. If applicants to PhD programs were less naive and came to understand how the odds work against their dreams, many would choose to do something else.

    You cannot blame applicants to Ph.D. programs for what is happening, universities have every incentive to deceive them. If funders can be made to understand how the way this is organised leads to continual publication of false results we might get some changes. As it is there is very little discussion of the incentives for fraud and poor results that are baked into the organization of research.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    , @black sea
  341. @Muggles

    Interesting here how some topics generate a lot of comments. Food, in this instance. Also films, sometimes TV, actors, etc.

    And sports. We all love sports.

    Another tip for milk drinkers: non fat milk tastes good

    No, it really doesn’t. It’s white water at that point.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  342. Pericles says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    How about some sullen resentfulness, ready to explode into violent rage, against the fedgov, HR, police, media, etc? Also a bit of white solidarity against the enemy.

    If you’re alone, perhaps better to emigrate.

  343. @S. Anonyia

    Some of these rural people actually don’t even eat that much processed crap, just eat too much and too often.

    That’s the thing. They still eat like farmers, because their ma learned from her ma that was how you have to feed the family. And anything less leaves them feeling short-changed, even though they only expend those precious calories flicking the TV remote, dabbing at their phones, or tooling around in the truck.
    Not stumbling lopsided up a furrow looking at a horse’s bumhole all day long, in the sleet.

    It happens here, either the “grandad was an agricultural labourer” syndrome, or among the recently created Underclass, where they still demand to feed like they were spending 10 hours a day hewing in an 18″ seam, pouring tons of molten iron into moulds, or stoking boilers. They certainly drink like they still did that.

    Perhaps another world war and its consequent rationing would have some beneficial side-effects. My old mum recalled almost freaking out with joy when she got an orange in her Christmas stocking during the War sometime, somehow (uncles, who’d been in Sicily?), along with the inevitable ‘improving book’ from pre-War stock. No chocs, of course, and too young for ten Woodbines (unladylike).

  344. Muggles says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I agree about sports, though some here say they don’t care for it.

    As for non fat milk, taste is subjective. Once you lose the mouth-feel “taste” of fats, non fat tastes just fine. As for being colored water as you suggest, non fat milk has 8 grams of protein per cup, the same as ordinary milk. So it’s great for a high protein/low carb type of eating regime that I try to stick with.

    Though if you aren’t lactose tolerant you won’t drink either kind.

    “Powdered milk” on the other hand, which my Dad made us drink sometimes, tastes horrible.

  345. @AKAHorace

    Actually I can blame them. Incentive to commit fraud does not justify the fraud. I was one who saw the pyramid, asked myself whether I really wanted to get on the ‘publish or perish’ treadmill and write loads of papers to substandard journals that nobody would read and didn’t add anything to the world, and said no. I’ve been skeptical of universities and academia ever since. A small percentage are keeping the ideal alive but the rest are time wasters. Academia as a whole has become a massive kindergarden, a way of keeping people off the streets.

  346. @Charles Pewitt

    I only got up your nose about this because chasing my own mediaeval forebears I fell across an absolutely enormous and squabbly discussion (hey! it’s the internet innit) on whether Dabney/Daubney and other later and recorded surnames were the one Norman strand or the other.

    Seems the distinction was crucial during Stephen v. Matilda times, or even as late as King Henry “Curtmantle”.
    The upshot was for me that it was far more likely to be d’Albini, in this area (where I’m from) due to much later Beauchamp patronage, handing out bits of land and fairly bogus “knighthoods” to anyone who would line up with them. The d’Aubigny lot were somewhat more successful, elsewhere in England.
    But now nobody has a grip on it, whether the surname is one or t’other. And I’d love to find out.

    Spelling, and politics, eh? A curse.

    Mum’s lot were Molyneux, and fairly easily hunted out for my family history purposes since they’ve stuck to that to this day (you should see the spelling variants for that one!), rather than whatever estate they managed to wangle out of their feudal superiors (kin by blood or marriage) like dad’s people. Basically the name of their particular (big) farm or parish, so the family name got forgotten.

    • Thanks: Charles Pewitt
  347. @ScarletNumber

    Still not an excuse for the level of obesity we see in the U.S.

    I know I’m genetically prone to being overweight. I was a chubby kid. When I was a decent distance runner in high school I was the biggest girl out there who finished near the front. I was built more like a softball player or soccer defender even running 40 miles a week. Not fat, but BMI around 22-23, when most runners around me were probably underweight.

    Yet I’m not fat in my early 30s because I have willpower. Intense exercise, portion control, intermittent fasting keep my BMI just under 25. When I slack, my blood pressure goes up. My husband follows a similar regimen.

    Meanwhile on my mother’s side of the family (I don’t take after them) almost everyone is quite fat, even though they were all good-looking beanpoles in photos taken before 2000. All of my cousins and friends who were cute and skinny as kids have given up by now and order appetizers, desserts, etc when they go out to eat. They overfeed their kids. They consider me the neurotic health freak from “the city.”

  348. @slumber_j

    Are fat people funnier and more sociable?

    The funniest person I’ve ever known has a long history of obesity, so quite possibly: it’s Falstaffianism, basically.

    On the other hand…

    Chubby Jack Leonard: ”You know, my wife is an acrobat.”

    Slender Jack Paar: ”She’d have to be.”

    NA🐳ALT.

  349. @Jack D

    If you don’t have all day to bake your potatoes, give them 5 or 6 minutes in the microwave first to get the centers heated up and then 30 min in the oven at 400F to finish.

    LOL You’ve spent 35 minutes going between two ovens, timing things twice, and saved a whopping 25 minutes off what you imply is an “all day” process, which is simply leaving the potatoes alone for one hour, the normal way, in a single, regular oven.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  350. Anonymous[222] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    Chauvin’s lawyer is screwing up bigtime.

    Could you elaborate on that?

  351. black sea says:
    @AKAHorace

    You cannot blame applicants to Ph.D. programs for what is happening, universities have every incentive to deceive them.

    “Blame” may not be the right word, but the students who are deceived about their career prospects, by and large, want to be deceived. There is an abundance of information about demographic projections, undergraduate enrollment numbers, percentage of contingent faculty, and hiring in various fields. If you are applying for a PhD, you’ve already gained a pretty good idea of how universities operate. And some graduate programs are pretty blunt about their students’ prospects. I once knew a guy who’d been accepted to a PhD program at Notre Dame. His graduate director told him that, while they would be happy to have him, he shouldn’t expect a job offer upon graduation. The guy enrolled anyway, but his father was a banker in Manhattan, so there you go . . . .

  352. @Buzz Mohawk

    LOL You’ve spent 35 minutes going between two ovens, timing things twice, and saved a whopping 25 minutes off what you imply is an “all day” process, which is simply leaving the potatoes alone for one hour, the normal way, in a single, regular oven.

    Boil them like eggs and be done with it.

    Too hot in summer to boil or bake at will and New England gets much hotter than England and the heat starting in Tennessee driving south with the one you love is bad for baking or boiling in summer.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  353. @Charles Pewitt

    Try baking them in a wood-burning stove in a log cabin in the middle of August. Boiling them won’t make any difference, because your soup pot uses the same fire for heat. You go sit outside with your dog while things cook. It’s actually paradise.

  354. profnasty says:
    @photondancer

    In America, if you’re poor, you’ll have to get by on lobster, snow crab and fois gras. That’s the truth. Believe it or not.

  355. profnasty says:
    @Altai

    A knee on the neck is appropriate.
    A knee on the throat is a hole other ball game.
    George Floyd Austin III killed himself.
    Worthless dope head.
    Hasn’t committed a crime in almost a year. That’s a first for him.

  356. @BB753

    Cerdo largo? Makes sense — from enriching us with their cuisine to enriching us AS cuisine.

    • LOL: BB753
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