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From the New York Times:

The Real Threat of ‘Joker’ Is Hiding in Plain Sight

What the film wants to say — about mental illness or class divisions in society — is not as interesting as what it accidentally says about whiteness.

New York Times critics keep trying to come up with arguments about why Joker is NOT interesting.

By Lawrence Ware, Oct. 9, 2019, 1:34 p.m. ET

This article contains spoilers for “Joker.”

Before “Joker” opened last weekend, much was being made of how its tale of a murderous villain echoed news stories of mass shooters and incel threats, and how the film might encourage unbalanced viewers to commit acts of violence. As it turned out, it mainly inspired audiences to open their wallets for the biggest October opening ever.

What about the lunatic who early Saturday morning beat to death four sleeping homeless guys at the extremely Jokerish corner of Bowery and East Broadway in Manhattan’s Chinatown? This 24-year-old maniac had been arrested 14 times but was still out on the street again, kind of like The Joker always gets acquitted for reason of insanity.

Despite the immense anticipation in the press that white males were going to run amok in response to the movie, nobody seems to have asked whether this 24-year-old maniac was influenced in some way by the movie that had just opened after a $120 million marketing campaign.

Why not?

Oh, because the killer is a black Dominican immigrant. So, never mind …

I don’t understand the assumption that only white males are interested in Batman universe movies. These are immensely valuable properties because huge numbers of people show up to see them, which suggests they have broad appeal across racial lines.

… Still, what struck me most is that what the film wants to say — about mental illness or class divisions in American society — is not as interesting as what it accidentally says about whiteness. For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked. It shows the delusions that many white men have about their place in society and the brutality that can result when that place is denied.

The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.

And though Fleck says he often feels invisible, had he been black, he truly would have been — except, of course, when he came into contact with the police. They’d be sure to see him.

Etcetera etcetera

Anyway, here’s my review, Arkham’s Razor:

Thus, Joker has gotten berserk negative reviews, noteworthy for their incoherence and anger at the film’s evenhanded politics.

My impression is that the screenwriters put in a lot of effort to make their allegorical allusions balanced. I don’t know if that makes it a better movie, but its centrist politics appears to be outraging the critics.

Here’s Media Analytics’ graph of the New York Times’ usage of “whiteness:”

Like a lot of the hate jargon of the Great Awokening, “whiteness” spikes upward in 2014 and then soars in 2015.

Generally speaking, unless you are a Polar explorer, an interior decorator, or an albino, use of the term “whiteness” is prima facie evidence of racial animus.

 
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  1. The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    • Replies: @Mr. Trace, KTMP
    "In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest."

    I cherish my memories of getting mugged in NYC (in Manhattan and another borough). Those experiences taught me something that polite society cannot entertain.

    Let's hope that sanity returns and that Bill Wilhelm (a.k.a. "de Blasio") will soon be gone. Now, I must confess to an urge to touch his children's hair. His kids will be in competition with the Obama kids, though. Can't wait to experience these future political clashes!

    , @Oleaginous Outrager

    A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible.
     
    Al Sharpton's turned that same mental illness into a lifelong career.
    , @Logan
    Homeless people are always invisible. Certainly as individuals. The Right generally doesn't care about them at all, the Left only when they as a group can be turned into a convenient weapon to use against its enemies.
    , @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.
    , @TWS
    Yup about as trustworthy as a needle found in an alley
    , @Jack D

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    You're giving Ware too much credit. It has always been understood that Gotham City is a thinly veiled version of NYC - this is not an original observation on his part nor is it much of a stretch given the way that Gotham has always been depicted in the comics and later the movies. Nor would it have really made any difference if Gotham was Chicago instead of NY.
    , @Anonymouse
    All the bums passed out in doorways of the Bowery when I first saw them as a teenager circa 1948 were white.
    , @Mireya martinez
    The joker was influenced by a silent film from 1928, called “the man who laughs “
  2. Lawrence Ware:

    Objectivity Illustrated.

    • LOL: Father O'Hara, TWS
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    Teaching Assistant Professor Lawrence Ware (M.A. in Philosophy) has a publication record that includes Marvel’s Newly Renumbered Comic Books Reveal Its Historic Disinterest in Promoting Black Superheroes.

    http://philosophy.okstate.edu/component/content/article?id=124:lawrence-ware

    , @The chicks are packed! The chicks are packed!
    Nice crisp, striped shirt and navy blazer! Funny, though—it’s a very white look.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Lawrence Ware =

    A renewal crew.
    Renew race law.
    We were carnal.


    https://c.cdn-expressen.se/images/cc/17/cc17c72256ff421bbcca08f37214026d/[email protected]

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTbGxd0iou0
    , @Hypnotoad666
    He wants to be a super-villain, but feels that systemic racism is holding him back.
    , @Svevlad
    Heh, dressed like a white dude... Perhaps he should try an African outfit. Oh wait, he probably can't track down from which nation he originates lul
    , @DWright
    He looks very angry.
    , @Antonius
    I wonder if Black hubris can be explained by Reverse Body Dysmorphia, only expanded to include cognitive abilities (inverted of course) morality (most certainly inverted) and reality (most certainly inverted). I would say the afflicted suffer from Reverse body, cognitive, morality, and reality disorder: the aforementioned malady explaining why an otherwise homely, hypocritical mediocrity can bestride the world like a colossus. Reality would be the only cure and readily available were it not for the perfidy of the nose.
  3. There seems to be a worldwide campaign to imply base motives to the Joker movie in the Right Kind of Media.

  4. Hey, they might end up banning clowns in whiteface! And mimes too!

    • Replies: @Hail

    banning clowns in whiteface
     
    Is that a call to ban approx. half the members of Congress --?
    , @Glaivester
    That would be a decision typical of our *auguste* elites.
  5. 1. Archive.org, please. Avoid giving the NY Times or any other corporate leftist site hits.

    2. It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it—trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about.

    3. Thanks for the promotion of my comment to your last article’s main body.

    • Replies: @Days of Broken Arrows
    "It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it—trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about."

    That's not why they're harping on this movie. They're making a big deal out of it because it's a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control -- and that white men are the real danger and ready to go berserk at any moment.

    This is, of course, a lies. So why do they want people to think this?

    Because making people think whites are the problem obscures the fact that it's really black violence that's out of control. For example, I saw one write-up related to this movie that mentions that white terrorism in the U.S. has now killed over 150 people total. That sounds bad...until you remember that in Baltimore and Chicago alone that many people are killed in a few months by blacks.

    In short, this movie is a way for the press to spread a lie. Fear of the movie is an allegory about fear of white men...who are statistically not the group we should be fearing.
    , @Rob McX

    It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them.
     
    I think what they fear far more is a calm and sober realization by whites of what's being done to them, and a rational reaction on their part to solve the problem. Shooting sprees by emotionally unbalanced white men only feeds into the Narrative.
    , @J.Ross
    Regarding point 2: nobody will do anything, our last conversation will be about why there's gas coming out of the communal shower heads, and the left absolutely knows that white mass shootings are statistically invisible but hypes them, to be able to blame whites for something, and to avoid talking about Muslims or blacks. Leftist hype about the imaginary "incel shooter" epidemic is an adaptation of the claim that serial killers and pedophiles are proprietarily white.
  6. How does “white supremacy left unchecked” lead to a so-so remake of “King of Comedy”?

  7. For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.

    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    • Agree: Aft
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    So, unchecked white supremecy is largely, structurally phallic? To channel TD, why do all the girls get Jungle Fever then?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?
     
    So is African population growth.



    Crisis engulfs Gabon hospital founded to atone for colonial crimes


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/25940699c9f0524bbfae0de1903ada3ee8e28f37/0_0_4090_3057/master/4090.jpg?width=645&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=38a4e0b4e82e31ce0514b68e5581d7fe

    https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/app/uploads/2016/01/529567901-1017x1024.jpg
    , @Franz Liszt von Raiding
    ‘Unchecked Whiteness’ leads to too many people doing the moonwalk as in actually walking on the moon.

    Unchecked blackness leads to LOTS OF MEMORY HOLING
    , @TWS
    Best comment this morning.
    , @Nick Diaz
    You forggot to mention colonialism, slavery, World War I and II, debt slavery to Western banks and the Nazi Holocaust.
    , @Alden
    Thank you thank you

    May I add survival of mother’s and babies in childbirth and eradication of smallpox, typhoid typhus Scarlett fever tuberculosis diphtheria polio cholera and other deadly diseases.
    , @Colin Wright
    'What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?'

    Hey. Post pictures of what happens when black supremacy is left unchecked.

    Guid 'n bluidy. Who wants to look at a bunch of pictures of buildings?
  8. Nick, my son, went to the 7:00 PM Thursday showing at a suburban cineplex, and he said the audience was at least 60% Mexican. Our burb is only about 10% Mexican.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Mexicans love the Joker. I don't know if that's derived from Cesar Romero or from their sense of stylistic extremity.
    , @Anon
    Well, what sort of people did you expect to see at a movie for children?
    , @Thea
    That’s interesting as our host has been noting for over a decade that people most will to pay to see movies in the cinema are Hispanics, far above their proportion of the population. The trends seems to continue.
  9. OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!? It’s because he was homosexual, isn’t it, you hateful bigot? Say, if one must submit a photograph of one’s forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania….

    • Troll: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    A photoshopped selfie with Maria Callas or Judy Garland
    , @The Alarmist

    Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!?
     
    Charles Nelson Riley would be more interesting, FFS.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNSoylFwwjk

    , @Mr. Anon
    Like a lot of D-list (E-list? F-list?) celebrities, Taylor is one of those people whose death only elicits the question "He was still alive?"
    , @JimB

    Say, if one must submit a photograph of one’s forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania….
     
    One’s wrist.
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    What the actual fuck is "sodomania"? Part of the Caught From Behind series?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!?
     
    CNN: RT "is dead at 84"
    Washington Post: RT "dies at 88"
    Who ya gonna believe?

    Rip Taylor and Rip Torn were born the same year and died the same year. One was an Elmer and one an Elmore.

    It's like their only purpose in life was to confuse us.
  10. In fairness, The Times published a surprisingly balanced commentary this weekend that criticized the over the top hot takes approach to Joker.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/magazine/the-joker-movie.html

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
    Wow. It's like someone managed to slip in some real journalism into the NYT.
  11. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Lawrence Ware:

    https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/lawrencewareosu.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&strip=all

    Objectivity Illustrated.
    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    A black professor writing about how pop culture something something black black blackety black. I’m shocked! Although the most annoying thing is the misuse of ‘disinterest.’
    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    I clicked on his Ok-State, phil dept web page.

    His office hours: Tuesday 12:00 to 1:00.

    So a student taking his class who needs some help has one hour during the entire week to catch him.
    Here is what the student will likely encounter.
    Student arrives promptly at noon. Sees sign on door, "Be back in 15 minutes.
    12:30 Professor Ware arrives. To student: "Give me 10 minutes to make a call."
    12:50: Professor Ware to student, "Come in please. Excuse me while I eat my sandwich."
    12:52: Professor Ware to student: "Excuse me while I take this call" (His girlfriend is on the line)
    12:59: Professor to student: "Can you come back in two weeks? I'm not going to be here next Tuesday."
  12. Joker sure made one thing clear: this Halloween (22 days away), half of all white adult male costumes will be clowns, either Phoenix’s Joker or Pennywise from this year’s It.

    I remember when Ledger died and The Dark Knight came out, and that Halloween every Goth-wannabe and out-of-work actor and sad, lonely, friendless high school kid was dressing up like him.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    We had kids dressed up as Steve Jobs for a number of years.
  13. @PiltdownMan
    Teaching Assistant Professor Lawrence Ware (M.A. in Philosophy) has a publication record that includes Marvel’s Newly Renumbered Comic Books Reveal Its Historic Disinterest in Promoting Black Superheroes.

    http://philosophy.okstate.edu/component/content/article?id=124:lawrence-ware

    A black professor writing about how pop culture something something black black blackety black. I’m shocked! Although the most annoying thing is the misuse of ‘disinterest.’

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Guy has a master's degree. In philosophy (not an easy discipline, if properly studied and taught). Doesn't have the vocabulary of a reasonably intelligent high-school student (who would know what "disinterested" means). Oh, and he has been hired by a college to teach!

    All you need to know about the state of "education."
    , @bigdicknick
    A black academic who makes everything about race and misuses words? Now I've heard of everything!
  14. @Autochthon
    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!? It's because he was homosexual, isn't it, you hateful bigot? Say, if one must submit a photograph of one's forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania....

    A photoshopped selfie with Maria Callas or Judy Garland

  15. > It shows the delusions that many white men have about their place in society and the brutality that can result when that place is denied.<

    The question : Who or whom is denying " white men have about their place in society " is left unanswered.

    • Replies: @Hail

    Who or whom is denying " white men have about their place in society "
     
    Cf.:

    23 Writers With Messages For Straight White Male Publishing
     


    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/11/enhanced/webdr02/original-24300-1429113176-3.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/13/enhanced/webdr09/original-1734-1429117439-11.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/11/enhanced/webdr04/original-1550-1429112515-28.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/12/enhanced/webdr10/original-18755-1429114336-3.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/12/enhanced/webdr14/original-18759-1429113700-26.jpg
  16. I don’t understand the assumption that only white males are interested in Batman universe movies. These are immensely valuable properties because huge numbers of people show up to see them, which suggests they have broad appeal across racial lines.

    I remember when I was 21 I had a job at a convenience store and this black radical would come in (wore a T-shirt that said ‘Jesus was a Black Man!) and get the latest issue of The Savage Sword of Conan right before the run came to an end (perhaps the most un PC book BC it didn’t shy away from depicting blacks as savages). I used to be a fan and once told him so, and that I thought the artwork had slipped in recent years. He agreed, even naming some of the artists that had worked on the magazine, and even a few I didn’t remember.

    But I wonder what minority, esp. black, readership of comic books was, say, 20 or more years ago before the biz fell into the crapper. On a really good election year, a Republican will get almost 10 percent of the black vote, and that’s a trivial number, but is that percentage still a trivial number when it comes to a mass produced item? Or then again, maybe the blacks that were into comic books wanted to read about white super heroes, which would explain why most of the 70s and 80s black super heroes were relegated to team comics after initial runs in their own books.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    Black guys in comics were either "poor oppressed" dudes or else "noble leader" types, both because the writers were pushing an agenda and also because they were terrified of being called racist.

    I remember reading letters to the editor in a comic book where a black reader praised the minor-league black hero "Rocket Racer" because, although he was black, he didn't have some "violent ghetto" backstory and didn't talk like he was some kind of jive turkey (I'm paraphrasing here).

    Basically, black dudes into comics liked the comic book characters who, ya know, were just like them (and all non-black comic dudes) : nerds or angsty dudes or wannabe heroes, not some poor noble savage oppressed by whitey.
    , @Anonymous
    Anime is surprisingly popular with blacks (guys)
    , @OscarWildeLoveChild
    Blacks privately love White Culture and White people, and are in fact, obsessed with White people. What whites do, don't do, think, don't think...how whites sing, dance, make music, make love, go to war, fight, eat, drink, and go to the bathroom. They are also obsessed with white skin, light colored eyes and white beauty. The love watching shows about Vikings, the Celts, invasions, war, Greece, Rome, British Royalty, Colonial America and WW2. They do so privately, via various outlets, although you rarely find them at a museum or national park.

    No matter how worded, how contorted or crafted, when you have been around a lot of blacks over a long period of time, you realize how they just cannot stop talking about white people. That's a fact.
  17. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    “In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.”

    I cherish my memories of getting mugged in NYC (in Manhattan and another borough). Those experiences taught me something that polite society cannot entertain.

    Let’s hope that sanity returns and that Bill Wilhelm (a.k.a. “de Blasio”) will soon be gone. Now, I must confess to an urge to touch his children’s hair. His kids will be in competition with the Obama kids, though. Can’t wait to experience these future political clashes!

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    I cherish my memories of getting mugged in NYC (in Manhattan and another borough). Those experiences taught me something that polite society cannot entertain.
     
    Utterly invisible, until you got mugged. As I was, too, in 1978 and 1980, iirc.
  18. Don’t discount corporate espionage. Disney has a lot of networking, money and interest in making sure Warner Brothers characters-in-tights are forever uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. The Batman portion of DC is box office threat #1 to Disney-Marvel in a US Market where studios still make the bulk of their actual money.

    Disney doesn’t really care how they massage it, just as long as their reasoning leads to the WB properties as being thought of as uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. So the editors or whoever pass it on down the line to reviewers approach it the only way they know how, by dragging their current year hot-takes into it.

    They do care very much about Warner Bros-D.C. as a competitor. Kevin Feige threw a fit when Wonder Woman beat their female superhero movie to theaters, and Marvel often makes decisions to try to head off possible D.C. ones.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Interesting angle. Yes, I can believe that.
    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    Joker just broke the record for highest Tuesday gross in October and looks headed towards a really good second weekend, so it seems to be having the opposite effect. Trump did win after all. There's an audience for problematic movies that white men enjoy, a massively untapped one even.
    , @ChrisZ
    Good insight. Fans usually imagine that decisions are “artistic,” but you rarely go wrong looking at the money angle. It’s all just business.
    , @Alden
    Good point. I’m no intellectual, but my first thought about anything is Who Benefits. Next is What competitor is targeted.

    Beef causes heart attacks Fish prevents heart attacks Meat causes obesity. Healthy carbs cause slimness.

    It’s just negative advertising. Criticize the competition.
  19. He’s a clown in full clown makeup, wig and costume. The uprising is sparked by a race-non-specific murderer.

  20. “I don’t understand the assumption that only white males are interested in Batman universe movies.”

    I could be wrong (and I will ask around) but i get the impression that black men really dig Batman.

  21. The film really stressed class division. I thought the clown masks lean far more toward “Occupy Wall Street” than Antifa.

    Three Wall Street guys were killed in the film, which likely agitated the Clinton Democrat intellectuals. Perhaps being white is just showing sympathy for anyone of the working class?

  22. Anon[908] • Disclaimer says:

    The author seems unable to separate a fictional narrative from reality.

    There are tens if not hundreds of thousands mentally ill homeless White men in the United States.

    Within this confused construct, leave it to the same writer to lament that only a fictional mentally ill White man can lead a fictional violent communist revolution.

    Are these people specifically given educations, jobs, and contributing writer opportunities to demonstrate their lack of cognitive ability to the World?

    • Replies: @anon

    The author seems unable to separate a fictional narrative from reality.


    This appears to be a feature of the Woke.
  23. Steve, I literally just deleted a post about being nervous with Kershaw as a reliever. I thought it sounded ridiculous.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    I was just about to post OT on this as well.

    Kershaw comes in in relief with a 3-1 lead. He throws 6 pitches, and gets a strikeout -- and gives up two home runs. Well, he certainly managed to pack a lot of drama into his very very very brief appearance, I guess.

    His post-season reputation is swirling rapidly already; it'll be down the chute if the Dodgers don't pull this one out.
    , @Anonymous
    Roberts got too clever by half. Just go to Urías or Kelly for the 8th.
  24. It shows the delusions that many white men have about their place in society and the brutality that can result when that place is denied.

    Because their actual place in society is that of privileged oppressor. These pathetic white losers don’t seem to understand that, chumps that they are. That’s what makes them supremecists – their frustration at being powerless. Or something. Anyway, a lot of the right sort of people believe it, so it must be true.

    A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible.

    Or he’d become a gangster-rapper. A decade before he might have joined the black panthers.

  25. @syonredux

    For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.
     
    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    http://www.peconsultingcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chrysler-Building2.jpg


    http://runawayjuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/paris-france-eiffel-tower.jpg

    https://designergirlee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/new-palace-of-westminster.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a53s4jyCqqU

    So, unchecked white supremecy is largely, structurally phallic? To channel TD, why do all the girls get Jungle Fever then?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    Do they? None of the White girls that I know have ever dated a Black man, and most of them are Leftists (I'm an academic; being around Leftists is an occupational necessity ).
  26. @Autochthon
    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!? It's because he was homosexual, isn't it, you hateful bigot? Say, if one must submit a photograph of one's forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania....

    Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!?

    Charles Nelson Riley would be more interesting, FFS.

  27. @Mister.Baseball
    Don't discount corporate espionage. Disney has a lot of networking, money and interest in making sure Warner Brothers characters-in-tights are forever uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. The Batman portion of DC is box office threat #1 to Disney-Marvel in a US Market where studios still make the bulk of their actual money.

    Disney doesn't really care how they massage it, just as long as their reasoning leads to the WB properties as being thought of as uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. So the editors or whoever pass it on down the line to reviewers approach it the only way they know how, by dragging their current year hot-takes into it.

    They do care very much about Warner Bros-D.C. as a competitor. Kevin Feige threw a fit when Wonder Woman beat their female superhero movie to theaters, and Marvel often makes decisions to try to head off possible D.C. ones.

    Interesting angle. Yes, I can believe that.

  28. @Anon
    The author seems unable to separate a fictional narrative from reality.

    There are tens if not hundreds of thousands mentally ill homeless White men in the United States.

    Within this confused construct, leave it to the same writer to lament that only a fictional mentally ill White man can lead a fictional violent communist revolution.

    Are these people specifically given educations, jobs, and contributing writer opportunities to demonstrate their lack of cognitive ability to the World?


    The author seems unable to separate a fictional narrative from reality.

    This appears to be a feature of the Woke.

  29. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Steve, I literally just deleted a post about being nervous with Kershaw as a reliever. I thought it sounded ridiculous.

    I was just about to post OT on this as well.

    Kershaw comes in in relief with a 3-1 lead. He throws 6 pitches, and gets a strikeout — and gives up two home runs. Well, he certainly managed to pack a lot of drama into his very very very brief appearance, I guess.

    His post-season reputation is swirling rapidly already; it’ll be down the chute if the Dodgers don’t pull this one out.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    Jack Morris and Curt Schilling he is not. And then Maeda strikes out the side. Roberts's post-season rep is swirling as well.
    , @jJay
    Kershaw is a veteran, well studied (by batters) starting pitcher. Starting pitchers are inclined to establish themselves for an inning or two, perhaps giving up a run or two, until they settle in for another four or so innings.

    Was this Coach Robert's call or Rick Honeycutt's (another great name)? I'd love to have some inside baseball on that.

    I'd have a put the less familiar Urias in there, based on my three years of coaching Little League. It doesn't take much to have an opinion.

    Congrats to the Nats.
    , @Prester John
    Well, the Dodgers didn't "pull this one out." Kershaw has been a bust in the post-season but, nevertheless, will make the Hall I believe, based upon his body of work.
  30. @Autochthon
    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!? It's because he was homosexual, isn't it, you hateful bigot? Say, if one must submit a photograph of one's forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania....

    Like a lot of D-list (E-list? F-list?) celebrities, Taylor is one of those people whose death only elicits the question “He was still alive?”

  31. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Lawrence Ware:

    https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/lawrencewareosu.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&strip=all

    Objectivity Illustrated.

    Nice crisp, striped shirt and navy blazer! Funny, though—it’s a very white look.

  32. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

    The world would be a better place if there were White Liberation from Jewish Supremacism.

    JSP or Jewish Supremacist Power sees whites as their prize horse.

    Whites need to say GET OFF MY BACK.

    If whites stopped supporting Jewish supremacism, there will be peace with Russia, no more Wars for Israel, and finally some justice for Palestinians.

  33. So I guess his complaint is that black homeless men aren’t smart enough to become supervillains…

  34. Sometimes random events occur in clusters and coincidences obviously happen. But I had just texted my buddy who is a true lifelong Dodgers fan (whereas I’m a bandwagon noob from Tobacco Rd) that it made me nervous. He was like “me too!”. And then boom boom.

    • Replies: @anon
    How the heck did the Dodgers lose to a drugstore chain, anyway?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875789275668918273/7l9RDOnl_400x400.jpg
  35. Joker commits the crime of being somewhat sympathetic to a straight white man who is legitimately downtrodden and acts out irrationally as a result. It also shows violent urban crime perpetrated by People of Pigment, which shocked me when I watched it because I can’t remember the last time the muggers/robbers/etc in a major Hollywood film weren’t white guys. To the shitstream media, this means it’s Nazi propaganda.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  36. “A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible.”

    The irony with this, of course, is that poor white men are basically invisible to America’s most important newspaper The New York Times, which devotes extensive daily coverage to the plight of poor black men.

    • Agree: Herbert West
  37. @Ian Smith
    A black professor writing about how pop culture something something black black blackety black. I’m shocked! Although the most annoying thing is the misuse of ‘disinterest.’

    Guy has a master’s degree. In philosophy (not an easy discipline, if properly studied and taught). Doesn’t have the vocabulary of a reasonably intelligent high-school student (who would know what “disinterested” means). Oh, and he has been hired by a college to teach!

    All you need to know about the state of “education.”

    • Agree: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @bomag

    All you need to know about the state of “education.”
     
    Yes.

    And we have accepted decline in this and other institutions in the name of fairness, equality, a hand up, a jump start, etc.; but I'm not seeing the upside: what have we gotten for all this compromise, other than more non-performance, more complaints, and more demands?
  38. @The Last Real Calvinist
    I was just about to post OT on this as well.

    Kershaw comes in in relief with a 3-1 lead. He throws 6 pitches, and gets a strikeout -- and gives up two home runs. Well, he certainly managed to pack a lot of drama into his very very very brief appearance, I guess.

    His post-season reputation is swirling rapidly already; it'll be down the chute if the Dodgers don't pull this one out.

    Jack Morris and Curt Schilling he is not. And then Maeda strikes out the side. Roberts’s post-season rep is swirling as well.

  39. @Mister.Baseball
    Don't discount corporate espionage. Disney has a lot of networking, money and interest in making sure Warner Brothers characters-in-tights are forever uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. The Batman portion of DC is box office threat #1 to Disney-Marvel in a US Market where studios still make the bulk of their actual money.

    Disney doesn't really care how they massage it, just as long as their reasoning leads to the WB properties as being thought of as uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. So the editors or whoever pass it on down the line to reviewers approach it the only way they know how, by dragging their current year hot-takes into it.

    They do care very much about Warner Bros-D.C. as a competitor. Kevin Feige threw a fit when Wonder Woman beat their female superhero movie to theaters, and Marvel often makes decisions to try to head off possible D.C. ones.

    Joker just broke the record for highest Tuesday gross in October and looks headed towards a really good second weekend, so it seems to be having the opposite effect. Trump did win after all. There’s an audience for problematic movies that white men enjoy, a massively untapped one even.

  40. @BB753
    Hey, they might end up banning clowns in whiteface! And mimes too!

    banning clowns in whiteface

    Is that a call to ban approx. half the members of Congress –?

    • LOL: BB753
  41. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Sometimes random events occur in clusters and coincidences obviously happen. But I had just texted my buddy who is a true lifelong Dodgers fan (whereas I'm a bandwagon noob from Tobacco Rd) that it made me nervous. He was like "me too!". And then boom boom.

    How the heck did the Dodgers lose to a drugstore chain, anyway?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Dodgers got beat fair and square.

    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

  42. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Lawrence Ware:

    https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/lawrencewareosu.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&strip=all

    Objectivity Illustrated.

    Lawrence Ware =

    A renewal crew.
    Renew race law.
    We were carnal.

    • LOL: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    That last one is quite a metaphor.
  43. @anon
    How the heck did the Dodgers lose to a drugstore chain, anyway?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875789275668918273/7l9RDOnl_400x400.jpg

    Dodgers got beat fair and square.

    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    • Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    No doubt. They won 90-some games. Strasburg is nasty and Scherzer is an animal.
    , @anon
    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    Good enough to beat the Dodgers, that's for true.
    Walgreens is a good retail chain, too.

    https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/mlb/500/wsh.png

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875789275668918273/7l9RDOnl_400x400.jpg
    , @William Badwhite
    The Nationals were 19-31 in May. Since then they've been one of the best teams in baseball (top 2-3 record, something like that). Also only the Dodgers scored more runs in the regular season. Strasburg, Scherzer, Corbin, Rendon, Soto, Howie Kendrick - the Nationals are loaded.

    Dodgers had a great season. Its not like they lost to the Marlins.
    , @Jim Christian

    Dodgers got beat fair and square.
     
    Been happening the last couple of years with the Dodgers, Steve. Still, I got the distinct impression last year that the Dodgers would rather have lost, tanked the game-whatever against the Red Sox. Ok, not tanked, but after all, with the Series done, no need to go back to cold, rain-soaked Boston for game 6/7. Perhaps a mitigating factor to the disappointment of losing? No trip to Boston, no cold and rain, deal done. Just stay in LA, clean out the locker and go play golf, tee-time at Riviera, 1PM, see you in March. Given my opinion of the lack of vigor of their effort, I also have to say I think Price got far more credit for his effort than HE deserved. A piss-ant all year, intensely disliked by the press, he was all of a sudden deified for one lousy game, vindicated. I hate when that happens for his sort. And he gloats, to boot.

    Didn't get those impressions about the Dodgers this year. Their bats went cold on the wrong night and of course, Kelly hung one up for consideration resulting in the Grand Slam. Speaking of vindicated, Cora must have seen something in Joe Kelly that he let Kelly go this year to the upset of the press, given the Red Sox' shitty bullpen this year. But Kelly made it all good last night, heh..

  44. @newrouter
    > It shows the delusions that many white men have about their place in society and the brutality that can result when that place is denied.<

    The question : Who or whom is denying " white men have about their place in society " is left unanswered.

    Who or whom is denying ” white men have about their place in society “

    Cf.:

    23 Writers With Messages For Straight White Male Publishing

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @El Dato
    The only one without a placard of with an aggressive and insulting nature or one that apparently implies that the author is so woke that he/she/they would glady take the Goebbels Family way out if so asked ... is the East Asian guy.
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    - "Let us abolish you."

    - "We don't need you."

    - " Take a vacation."

    ...say those taking full advantage of the technologies and institutions created by straight, white men.

    (Those women and people of color wanting to displace straight white men must begin showing their true commitment to their cause by refusing to use technologies and institutions developed by straight white men. No electricity, no electronics, no cars, trains or planes. No antibiotics, no sterile surgery, no refrigeration, no supermarkets, no public schools or academies, no calculus, no chemistry, no formal logic ...)

    That will really show those awful straight white men!
  45. I went to see Tim Burton’s BATMAN the weekend it opened in 1989, at a theater in Washington DC. Two black guys got into a brutal fistfight in the row right in front of me. I yelled, “Somebody call Batman!”
    Howard Stern used to joke a lot about blacks getting the Batman symbol carved into their hair.

  46. @syonredux

    For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.
     
    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    http://www.peconsultingcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chrysler-Building2.jpg


    http://runawayjuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/paris-france-eiffel-tower.jpg

    https://designergirlee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/new-palace-of-westminster.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a53s4jyCqqU

    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    So is African population growth.

    Crisis engulfs Gabon hospital founded to atone for colonial crimes

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Crisis engulfs Gabon hospital founded to atone for colonial crimes
     
    That's some pretty serious retconning going on there. Schweitzer would have been surprised that it lasted so long, after his death.

    Albert Schweitzer was an altogether remarkable man with many talents, and he founded his hospital in Lambarene, Gabon primarily because of moral compulsions that sprang from his Christian faith.

    The New York Times and Reuters obituary from 1965 was more real.



    Schweitzer regarded most native Africans as children, as primitives. It was said that he had scarcely ever talked with an adult African on adult terms. He had little but contempt for the nationalist movement, for his attitudes were firmly grounded in 19th-century benevolence. Although thousands of Africans called him "le grand docteur," others plastered his village with signs, "Schweitzer, Go Home!"

    Needs Held Elementary

    "At this stage," Schweitzer said in 1963, "Africans have little need for advanced training. They need very elementary schools run along the old missionary plan, with the Africans going to school for a few hours every day and then going back to the fields. Agriculture, not science or industrialization, is their greatest need."

    His attitude was sharply expressed in a story he liked to tell of his orange trees. "I let the Africans pick all the fruit they want," he said. "You see, the good Lord has protected the trees. He made the Africans too lazy to pick them bare."
     

    https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0114.html

    Part of my high school English syllabus was a well known biography of Albert Schweitzer, All Men Are Brothers.

  47. @Steve Sailer
    Dodgers got beat fair and square.

    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    No doubt. They won 90-some games. Strasburg is nasty and Scherzer is an animal.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    That’s nice to hear. DC is not used to winning big post season games. I like that Dodger team a lot btw but they need a new manager.
  48. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Lawrence Ware:

    https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/lawrencewareosu.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&strip=all

    Objectivity Illustrated.

    He wants to be a super-villain, but feels that systemic racism is holding him back.

  49. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    No doubt. They won 90-some games. Strasburg is nasty and Scherzer is an animal.

    That’s nice to hear. DC is not used to winning big post season games. I like that Dodger team a lot btw but they need a new manager.

    • Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    I am not in the business of second guessing coaches(***), but all my spidey senses were flaring when Kershaw was up in the bullpen.

    (*** comes from hearing people questioning Dean Smith. You learn to be like, uh, who the eff do you think you are???? )
  50. @Reg Cæsar

    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?
     
    So is African population growth.



    Crisis engulfs Gabon hospital founded to atone for colonial crimes


    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/25940699c9f0524bbfae0de1903ada3ee8e28f37/0_0_4090_3057/master/4090.jpg?width=645&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=38a4e0b4e82e31ce0514b68e5581d7fe

    https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/app/uploads/2016/01/529567901-1017x1024.jpg

    Crisis engulfs Gabon hospital founded to atone for colonial crimes

    That’s some pretty serious retconning going on there. Schweitzer would have been surprised that it lasted so long, after his death.

    Albert Schweitzer was an altogether remarkable man with many talents, and he founded his hospital in Lambarene, Gabon primarily because of moral compulsions that sprang from his Christian faith.

    The New York Times and Reuters obituary from 1965 was more real.


    Schweitzer regarded most native Africans as children, as primitives. It was said that he had scarcely ever talked with an adult African on adult terms. He had little but contempt for the nationalist movement, for his attitudes were firmly grounded in 19th-century benevolence. Although thousands of Africans called him “le grand docteur,” others plastered his village with signs, “Schweitzer, Go Home!”

    Needs Held Elementary

    “At this stage,” Schweitzer said in 1963, “Africans have little need for advanced training. They need very elementary schools run along the old missionary plan, with the Africans going to school for a few hours every day and then going back to the fields. Agriculture, not science or industrialization, is their greatest need.”

    His attitude was sharply expressed in a story he liked to tell of his orange trees. “I let the Africans pick all the fruit they want,” he said. “You see, the good Lord has protected the trees. He made the Africans too lazy to pick them bare.”

    https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0114.html

    Part of my high school English syllabus was a well known biography of Albert Schweitzer, All Men Are Brothers.

    • Replies: @bomag

    "... Agriculture, not science or industrialization, is their greatest need.”
     
    Well, the modern world has met that need far too well.

    Be careful what you wish for.
    , @Bardon Kaldian
    You are probably aware that MSM is in denial of other, much more radical Schweitzer quote:


    I have given my life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilisation must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status; white, the superior, and they the inferior; for whenever a white man seeks to live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour him, and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit to this people let white men from anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa remember that you must continually retain this status; you the master, and they the inferior, like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternise with them as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you."
     
    As for "Joker"- this stuff is as "deep" as is this film analysis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUGmWlkJZk
  51. @Danindc
    That’s nice to hear. DC is not used to winning big post season games. I like that Dodger team a lot btw but they need a new manager.

    I am not in the business of second guessing coaches(***), but all my spidey senses were flaring when Kershaw was up in the bullpen.

    (*** comes from hearing people questioning Dean Smith. You learn to be like, uh, who the eff do you think you are???? )

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    My vague impression is that this year as a starter Kershaw tended to give up homers early then settled down and generally held the line enough for the Dodgers to come back and win, which makes him less than ideal as a reliever.

    Plus he threw Anthony Rendon, one of the three best hitters in the league, an 89 mph fastball. 89 mph fastballs worked okay for Fernando Valenzuela in 1981, but nowadays hitters are so optimized to hit homers ...

    , @Polynikes
    Well Dean Smith wasn’t really a great tactician or game coach. He was an amazing recruiter, but he probably did less with more talent than anyone.
  52. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    I am not in the business of second guessing coaches(***), but all my spidey senses were flaring when Kershaw was up in the bullpen.

    (*** comes from hearing people questioning Dean Smith. You learn to be like, uh, who the eff do you think you are???? )

    My vague impression is that this year as a starter Kershaw tended to give up homers early then settled down and generally held the line enough for the Dodgers to come back and win, which makes him less than ideal as a reliever.

    Plus he threw Anthony Rendon, one of the three best hitters in the league, an 89 mph fastball. 89 mph fastballs worked okay for Fernando Valenzuela in 1981, but nowadays hitters are so optimized to hit homers …

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.
    , @anonymous
    ... , as is the ball.

    You guys need to let go. Boycott Ba$hball.

    , @Impolitic
    I've seen more of the Dodgers in the last week than I have all year, and I've got to say: they must be the whitest team in baseball. Have they got a NE Patriots thing going on?
    , @Danindc
    If he takes out Kershaw after the strikeout it’s redemption somewhat for Clayton. Instead, he’ll be a basket case. They had relievers ready to go esp Maeda.

    Playoff baseball is really fun w second guessing
  53. @South Texas Guy

    I don’t understand the assumption that only white males are interested in Batman universe movies. These are immensely valuable properties because huge numbers of people show up to see them, which suggests they have broad appeal across racial lines.
     
    I remember when I was 21 I had a job at a convenience store and this black radical would come in (wore a T-shirt that said 'Jesus was a Black Man!) and get the latest issue of The Savage Sword of Conan right before the run came to an end (perhaps the most un PC book BC it didn't shy away from depicting blacks as savages). I used to be a fan and once told him so, and that I thought the artwork had slipped in recent years. He agreed, even naming some of the artists that had worked on the magazine, and even a few I didn't remember.

    But I wonder what minority, esp. black, readership of comic books was, say, 20 or more years ago before the biz fell into the crapper. On a really good election year, a Republican will get almost 10 percent of the black vote, and that's a trivial number, but is that percentage still a trivial number when it comes to a mass produced item? Or then again, maybe the blacks that were into comic books wanted to read about white super heroes, which would explain why most of the 70s and 80s black super heroes were relegated to team comics after initial runs in their own books.

    Black guys in comics were either “poor oppressed” dudes or else “noble leader” types, both because the writers were pushing an agenda and also because they were terrified of being called racist.

    I remember reading letters to the editor in a comic book where a black reader praised the minor-league black hero “Rocket Racer” because, although he was black, he didn’t have some “violent ghetto” backstory and didn’t talk like he was some kind of jive turkey (I’m paraphrasing here).

    Basically, black dudes into comics liked the comic book characters who, ya know, were just like them (and all non-black comic dudes) : nerds or angsty dudes or wannabe heroes, not some poor noble savage oppressed by whitey.

  54. @Autochthon
    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!? It's because he was homosexual, isn't it, you hateful bigot? Say, if one must submit a photograph of one's forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania....

    Say, if one must submit a photograph of one’s forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania….

    One’s wrist.

    • LOL: bomag
  55. @South Texas Guy

    I don’t understand the assumption that only white males are interested in Batman universe movies. These are immensely valuable properties because huge numbers of people show up to see them, which suggests they have broad appeal across racial lines.
     
    I remember when I was 21 I had a job at a convenience store and this black radical would come in (wore a T-shirt that said 'Jesus was a Black Man!) and get the latest issue of The Savage Sword of Conan right before the run came to an end (perhaps the most un PC book BC it didn't shy away from depicting blacks as savages). I used to be a fan and once told him so, and that I thought the artwork had slipped in recent years. He agreed, even naming some of the artists that had worked on the magazine, and even a few I didn't remember.

    But I wonder what minority, esp. black, readership of comic books was, say, 20 or more years ago before the biz fell into the crapper. On a really good election year, a Republican will get almost 10 percent of the black vote, and that's a trivial number, but is that percentage still a trivial number when it comes to a mass produced item? Or then again, maybe the blacks that were into comic books wanted to read about white super heroes, which would explain why most of the 70s and 80s black super heroes were relegated to team comics after initial runs in their own books.

    Anime is surprisingly popular with blacks (guys)

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    The black love of Yu Gi Oh is a phenom I can't decipher.
  56. @R.G. Camara
    1. Archive.org, please. Avoid giving the NY Times or any other corporate leftist site hits.

    2. It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it---trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about.

    3. Thanks for the promotion of my comment to your last article's main body.

    “It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it—trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about.”

    That’s not why they’re harping on this movie. They’re making a big deal out of it because it’s a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control — and that white men are the real danger and ready to go berserk at any moment.

    This is, of course, a lies. So why do they want people to think this?

    Because making people think whites are the problem obscures the fact that it’s really black violence that’s out of control. For example, I saw one write-up related to this movie that mentions that white terrorism in the U.S. has now killed over 150 people total. That sounds bad…until you remember that in Baltimore and Chicago alone that many people are killed in a few months by blacks.

    In short, this movie is a way for the press to spread a lie. Fear of the movie is an allegory about fear of white men…who are statistically not the group we should be fearing.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Hail

    it’s a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control
     
    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn't even really register on the international press radar.
    , @Jack D
    It's not some great conspiracy to make white people look bad, it has to do with how people process statistical information. For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes. But most people are more afraid of getting on a jet than they are of driving to the airport. And a jet crash where 100 people die is going to make the front page of the newspaper while the 80 different fatal car crashes that occurred that same day scattered across the country are not.


    Likewise, people (who are mostly black males living in the ghetto and not like you anyway) getting shot 1 or 2 at a time (even if it add up to thousands over the course of a year) is processed differently and handled by the media differently than 1 mass shooter killing 58 people and wounding hundreds all at once and this has nothing to do with racism or anti-whitism.
    , @Lurker
    Very much an example of them using fiction to say something about the real world.
    , @Anonymous
    I disagree they're boosting the status of the film because it's leftist propaganda through and through they're just gas-lighting everyone. They've been doing this for awhile yet few seem to mention it most just take them at their word when you really shouldn't. Fool's hear the media and think "Oh they hate this film, i should go support it just to anger them." when really it's just a trick to get you to sit through their agitprop and give them money.
  57. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible.

    Al Sharpton’s turned that same mental illness into a lifelong career.

  58. @Autochthon
    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!? It's because he was homosexual, isn't it, you hateful bigot? Say, if one must submit a photograph of one's forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania....

    What the actual fuck is “sodomania”? Part of the Caught From Behind series?

    • Replies: @TWS
    Lol well done sir!
    , @Lurker
    Sodomania is a small principality close by, and allied to, Wakanda.
  59. “Doctor NYT, do your really think it is appropriate to apply extreme and shitty Black Tropes? Oh, ok then.”

    And though Fleck says he often feels invisible, had he been black, he truly would have been invisible

    That would have made “Joker Black Panther Invisible Man”, a worthy opponent of not only of Batman, but possibly of Superman.

    And for the next trick, invoke studies!!

    Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.

    Basically, if the Joker had been black, this would have been a movie about liberatory retribution.

    He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy.

    Unlike Black Joker, who would have started Joker BLM.

  60. @Steve Sailer
    My vague impression is that this year as a starter Kershaw tended to give up homers early then settled down and generally held the line enough for the Dodgers to come back and win, which makes him less than ideal as a reliever.

    Plus he threw Anthony Rendon, one of the three best hitters in the league, an 89 mph fastball. 89 mph fastballs worked okay for Fernando Valenzuela in 1981, but nowadays hitters are so optimized to hit homers ...

    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian

    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.
     
    That was so folksy, so Bob Ryan, heh..
  61. @Steve Sailer
    My vague impression is that this year as a starter Kershaw tended to give up homers early then settled down and generally held the line enough for the Dodgers to come back and win, which makes him less than ideal as a reliever.

    Plus he threw Anthony Rendon, one of the three best hitters in the league, an 89 mph fastball. 89 mph fastballs worked okay for Fernando Valenzuela in 1981, but nowadays hitters are so optimized to hit homers ...

    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    That pitch was destroyed - statcast (for what its worth) said it went 449 feet. As soon as the camera cut to watch the flight, the first thing I noticed was Bellinger and whoever was in RF just standing there watching it.
  62. @Days of Broken Arrows
    "It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it—trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about."

    That's not why they're harping on this movie. They're making a big deal out of it because it's a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control -- and that white men are the real danger and ready to go berserk at any moment.

    This is, of course, a lies. So why do they want people to think this?

    Because making people think whites are the problem obscures the fact that it's really black violence that's out of control. For example, I saw one write-up related to this movie that mentions that white terrorism in the U.S. has now killed over 150 people total. That sounds bad...until you remember that in Baltimore and Chicago alone that many people are killed in a few months by blacks.

    In short, this movie is a way for the press to spread a lie. Fear of the movie is an allegory about fear of white men...who are statistically not the group we should be fearing.

    it’s a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control

    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn’t even really register on the international press radar.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Not only that but that "Muslim guy" was undercover informer and had the list of the other undercover informers on his home PC.
    , @Dieter Kief
    For days, it was "a man" in the news. Only after a few days and after the French Minister of the Interiors had admitted, that big mistakes had been made in the past, concerning the terrorist, it became step by step known, that it was indeed a terrorist attack. - Oh, one of the big mistakes of the French police and politics: Not having looked into the background of Muslim terrorist connections, the man has obviously had - and which the police had known, without doing anything about it, before it was too late.

    French President Emmanuel Macron attacked the weak liberal way with Muslim terrorism this week, calling it an obvious failure.
    , @J.Ross
    Of course not. Muslim violence is just something you'll have to get used to.
    , @a reader

    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn’t even really register on the international press radar.
     
    Well, not only was he muslim, but ...
  63. @Steve Sailer
    My vague impression is that this year as a starter Kershaw tended to give up homers early then settled down and generally held the line enough for the Dodgers to come back and win, which makes him less than ideal as a reliever.

    Plus he threw Anthony Rendon, one of the three best hitters in the league, an 89 mph fastball. 89 mph fastballs worked okay for Fernando Valenzuela in 1981, but nowadays hitters are so optimized to hit homers ...

    … , as is the ball.

    You guys need to let go. Boycott Ba$hball.

  64. @Hail

    Who or whom is denying " white men have about their place in society "
     
    Cf.:

    23 Writers With Messages For Straight White Male Publishing
     


    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/11/enhanced/webdr02/original-24300-1429113176-3.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/13/enhanced/webdr09/original-1734-1429117439-11.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/11/enhanced/webdr04/original-1550-1429112515-28.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/12/enhanced/webdr10/original-18755-1429114336-3.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/12/enhanced/webdr14/original-18759-1429113700-26.jpg

    The only one without a placard of with an aggressive and insulting nature or one that apparently implies that the author is so woke that he/she/they would glady take the Goebbels Family way out if so asked … is the East Asian guy.

  65. @Hail

    it’s a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control
     
    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn't even really register on the international press radar.

    Not only that but that “Muslim guy” was undercover informer and had the list of the other undercover informers on his home PC.

  66. @The Alarmist
    So, unchecked white supremecy is largely, structurally phallic? To channel TD, why do all the girls get Jungle Fever then?

    Do they? None of the White girls that I know have ever dated a Black man, and most of them are Leftists (I’m an academic; being around Leftists is an occupational necessity ).

    • Replies: @Logan
    How does one acquire such information?

    Have you really asked each of them, "Have you ever dated a black man?"

    Seems to me that asking the question would be, as they say, "problematic."

    , @Charon
    I can't imagine where you are then. Don't they watch TV and movies?
    , @Jack D
    I think that high status black men (e.g. black professors, guys like Obama Sr. and Jr.) have no problem finding white women in academic circles who are willing to date them. Someone who combines the masculinity of blacks with intellectualism is a dream date (although they rarely make good long term mates because black men, even high status ones, rarely stick around). The problem is that there aren't that many high status black men. Obama Jr. would have almost surely married a white woman if he hadn't decided that he would have a career as a professional black "activist" instead of say a diplomat in the State Dept. (he was really born to do the latter).
    , @nebulafox
    I've got a very close relative who is married to a black man. He's a professional with multiple graduate degrees, though: he is the kind of guy who'd do OK with educated women of any background.

    Other cultures are a different story. See the Chinese washer commercial.

  67. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Lawrence Ware:

    https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/lawrencewareosu.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&strip=all

    Objectivity Illustrated.

    Heh, dressed like a white dude… Perhaps he should try an African outfit. Oh wait, he probably can’t track down from which nation he originates lul

  68. So a man beat to death four homeless persons on a boardwalk at the corner of the Bowery and East Broadway in NYC.

    (This is happened the first time in this world, right – four homeless people beat to death by one person?)

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The homeless in American law are what Scientology calls "fair game" except when a Hollywood alt-right pereception management project was just released.
    , @Jack D
    A sidewalk, not a boardwalk. In America, boardwalks are usually found at the beach and rarely anywhere else. Old West towns sometimes had wooden sidewalks but I don't think they were called boardwalks.

    For sanitary reasons NYC sidewalks have been concrete or other hard materials for a long time, especially down on the Lower East Side. In the 19th century most streets were made of cobblestone or brick paving blocks but asphalt paving was pioneered on the LES because it was thought to be easier to hose down in crowded ghetto areas with pushcart vendors, etc. It was understood to be less aesthetically pleasing than other paving materials but in the ghetto sanitation trumped aesthetics. A wooden sidewalk would have been a slimy mess in no time.
    , @prosa123
    The four killings were separate incidents - the homeless weren't together on a single corner, but were sleeping separately within a couple blocks of each other.
  69. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    Homeless people are always invisible. Certainly as individuals. The Right generally doesn’t care about them at all, the Left only when they as a group can be turned into a convenient weapon to use against its enemies.

  70. I prefer my white supremacy checked.

    • Replies: @Alden
    This White supremacist prefers black gray and White houndstooth.
    , @Lagertha
    pants, just not pants.
  71. @Hail

    it’s a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control
     
    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn't even really register on the international press radar.

    For days, it was “a man” in the news. Only after a few days and after the French Minister of the Interiors had admitted, that big mistakes had been made in the past, concerning the terrorist, it became step by step known, that it was indeed a terrorist attack. – Oh, one of the big mistakes of the French police and politics: Not having looked into the background of Muslim terrorist connections, the man has obviously had – and which the police had known, without doing anything about it, before it was too late.

    French President Emmanuel Macron attacked the weak liberal way with Muslim terrorism this week, calling it an obvious failure.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    Let me guess, it was an "isolated incident" but not to worry "lessons have been learned".
  72. @Autochthon
    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!? It's because he was homosexual, isn't it, you hateful bigot? Say, if one must submit a photograph of one's forearm to prove negritude, a body wonders what must be photographed to indicate sodomania....

    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!?

    CNN: RT “is dead at 84”
    Washington Post: RT “dies at 88”
    Who ya gonna believe?

    Rip Taylor and Rip Torn were born the same year and died the same year. One was an Elmer and one an Elmore.

    It’s like their only purpose in life was to confuse us.

    • Replies: @TWS
    Rip Torn is dead? He was a talented actor. The other guy was third seat from the right on random game shows.
    , @Autochthon
    Rip Torn had six children. Rip Taylor maybe fantasised about having six children....

    (Thanks; I'll be here all week. Please tip your bartenders and waitresses generously.)
    , @Nicholas Stix
    Rip Torn was a significant figure: Although he appeared in an ungodly number of shlock productions which are not even remembered by those who appeared in them, he was integral to the success of one of the funniest sitcoms of all time, The Larry Sanders Show, and he once tried to kill (alas, unsuccessfully) Norman Mailer, while shooting a movie together.
  73. @syonredux
    Do they? None of the White girls that I know have ever dated a Black man, and most of them are Leftists (I'm an academic; being around Leftists is an occupational necessity ).

    How does one acquire such information?

    Have you really asked each of them, “Have you ever dated a black man?”

    Seems to me that asking the question would be, as they say, “problematic.”

    • Replies: @syonredux

    How does one acquire such information?
     
    In some cases, they had to confess to their unconscious racism. Back in grad school, I attended a seminar where the prof made us reveal our dating histories. The White girls all admitted that they had never dated a non-White man.

    In other instances, they've simply revealed it during conversations about race (frequent conversations about race are de rigueur in academia)


    With some of them, I'm basing it on what I've observed. I.e., I've none girl X for ten years and none of her 10-12 boyfriends have been Black.
  74. @Chris from Gresham (though not for long)
    Nick, my son, went to the 7:00 PM Thursday showing at a suburban cineplex, and he said the audience was at least 60% Mexican. Our burb is only about 10% Mexican.

    Mexicans love the Joker. I don’t know if that’s derived from Cesar Romero or from their sense of stylistic extremity.

  75. @Dieter Kief
    So a man beat to death four homeless persons on a boardwalk at the corner of the Bowery and East Broadway in NYC.

    (This is happened the first time in this world, right - four homeless people beat to death by one person?)

    The homeless in American law are what Scientology calls “fair game” except when a Hollywood alt-right pereception management project was just released.

  76. Anon[276] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    A nice variation on “It’s OK to be White” and “Islam is Right about Women: “Google Uyghurs.”

    On the other hand, I’m on the fence about concentration camps for Muslim minorities in a relatively homogeneous country like China. A stitch in time saves nine. A little Hitlering today may save China from the wonders of diversity down the line. In the way the U.S. federalism allows A-B experiments in different states, China is doing a B experiment to Europe’s A.

    They want to avoid Uyghur Lives Matter. Uyghurs barbecuing and napping anywhere they want, Uyghur disparate impact, Uyghur ghettos full of gun violence because of Uyghur redlining, Affirmative action Uyghurs “who have to work twice as hard to get anywhere” because of implicit bias.

  77. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.

    “Gotham” is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.

    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman’s Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the ’60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Metropolis always had the vibes of a UN bureaucratic city. I remember there being lots of statues to various heroes. Would Superman approve of them being torn down?

    Meanwhile, complete NAZI TERROR FAIL by someone called "Stephan B." (was reported as being 34 years old, then 30, now 27):

    https://www.rt.com/news/470605-halle-shooting-synagogue-how-happened/
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    In the TV show “Smallville”, Metropolis seems to be a stand-in for Kansas City, as the characters seem to act as though it’s a hop, skip, and step away from their titular Kansas hometown.
    , @PiltdownMan

    “Gotham” is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:
     
    Indeed, but the fictional Gotham of the Batman comics and movies is a rather gothic artistic creation that is only loosely connected to the actual, real-life New York City of our times, or the 1970s. Lawrence Ware's dishonesty lies in pretending that the two are the same, and are interchangeable. He then doubles down by implying that mentally ill black people were singled out for neglect and would end up on the street, while white ones were not. In the actual New York City of the 1970s, there was little difference, as anyone who lived there can likely recall.

    I was very proud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!
     

    Lol! Me, too. I must have been about ten or eleven.
    , @Jack Henson
    There's a map showing Metropolis as supposedly in Delaware, Gotham as NYC, and Central City in Philly IIRC.
    , @Jack D
    The best explanation I have seen is "Metropolis is New York in the daytime; Gotham City is New York at night."
    , @Rex Little

    Superman’s Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto
     
    In the Smallville TV series, Smallville itself was in Kansas, and they often spoke of Metropolis as if it was nearby. So it pretty much would have to be Kansas City. Maybe Denver, but that's over 3 hours away from even the nearest part of Kansas.
    , @Lurker
    I always assumed Gotham was NYC and Metropolis was LA.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Apparently the use of back alleys which are common in Chicago but rare in New York and where Batman does most of his beating up of hoods is evidence that the creators of Gotham were referencing the Windy City more than the Big Apple back when they created the city.

    From what I understand it's kind of an alternate geographical history anyway, Gotham is supposedly in New Jersey and Superman's Metropolis is in Delaware, neither of which have New York or Chicago sized cities in our world. Of course Gotham is a long standing nickname for New York, but the association that people had with organized crime and Chicago in 1930's ( When Batman was developed ) have lead some to think it is Chicago with the New York nickname.

  78. https://bgr.com/2019/10/09/tarantula-mating-san-francisco-bay-area-california/
    Still, locals are warned that coming across one or more tarantulas will likely be commonplace for a short while, and residents may even spot males fighting. Like many other species, male tarantulas will attempt to beat down fellow spiders they see as threats and will attack one another for the right to mate with females.

  79. @syonredux

    For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.
     
    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    http://www.peconsultingcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chrysler-Building2.jpg


    http://runawayjuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/paris-france-eiffel-tower.jpg

    https://designergirlee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/new-palace-of-westminster.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a53s4jyCqqU

    ‘Unchecked Whiteness’ leads to too many people doing the moonwalk as in actually walking on the moon.

    Unchecked blackness leads to LOTS OF MEMORY HOLING

  80. Also by Lawrence Ware:

    How to Survive, Be Safe and Thrive at a Predominantly White Institution

    I experienced many firsts when I left home for college. First car, first full-time job, first time being racially profiled and first time being called n—ger. Life comes at you fast if you’re black at a predominantly white institution.

    No one prepared me for the multiple assaults on my humanity that I experienced at a PWI.

    The interesting question here is this: how did he, and how do others like him, get a platform in the NYT? — what is the decision-making process there? — are they rated on a scale of anti-whiteness/how many unverifiable anti-white anecdotes are in their writing? — and it’s not just the NYT: do a search to see where else he’s been published.

    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1181951417419911169
    , @William Badwhite

    first time being racially profiled
     
    He means "first time something happened I didn't like, which I attribute to my being black"

    first time being called n—ger
     
    This almost certainly didn't happen unless it was by another black.

    No one prepared me for the multiple assaults on my humanity that I experienced at a PWI.
     
    And yet here you (still) are.
    , @bomag

    I wish someone had prepared me for the racism I would experience during my first year of college. I was able to survive and thrive, but it was not without emotional labor.
     
    LOL

    He's a soldier at war; a spy behind enemy lines. All of us should nurture such a martial mentality.
  81. @eah
    Also by Lawrence Ware:

    How to Survive, Be Safe and Thrive at a Predominantly White Institution


    I experienced many firsts when I left home for college. First car, first full-time job, first time being racially profiled and first time being called n—ger. Life comes at you fast if you’re black at a predominantly white institution.

    No one prepared me for the multiple assaults on my humanity that I experienced at a PWI.
     

    The interesting question here is this: how did he, and how do others like him, get a platform in the NYT? -- what is the decision-making process there? -- are they rated on a scale of anti-whiteness/how many unverifiable anti-white anecdotes are in their writing? -- and it's not just the NYT: do a search to see where else he's been published.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Professor Kevin MacDonald:

    Anti-White hate is now firmly ensconced in the academic world and the establishment in general.

     

    I say:

    This is why the word WHITE has been used for the name of the new patriotic political party called WHITE CORE AMERICA.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is anti-White and anti-Christian and anti-European American. Anti-White animosity is pushed by the hostile JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Tens of millions of American Whites born after 1965 want a political party to advance the interests of Whites as Whites. White Core America is the new political party that will dislodge the treasonous Republican Party from power.

    Warren or Biden as the Democrat Party presidential nominee guarantees that the Green Party will get millions of votes. White Core America will get even more votes than the Green Party from White Christian Americans who want a political party that advances the interests of Whites and the interests of White families and the interests of the White Christian Ancestral Core of the USA.
  82. @R.G. Camara
    1. Archive.org, please. Avoid giving the NY Times or any other corporate leftist site hits.

    2. It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it---trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about.

    3. Thanks for the promotion of my comment to your last article's main body.

    It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them.

    I think what they fear far more is a calm and sober realization by whites of what’s being done to them, and a rational reaction on their part to solve the problem. Shooting sprees by emotionally unbalanced white men only feeds into the Narrative.

  83. @PiltdownMan
    Teaching Assistant Professor Lawrence Ware (M.A. in Philosophy) has a publication record that includes Marvel’s Newly Renumbered Comic Books Reveal Its Historic Disinterest in Promoting Black Superheroes.

    http://philosophy.okstate.edu/component/content/article?id=124:lawrence-ware

    I clicked on his Ok-State, phil dept web page.

    His office hours: Tuesday 12:00 to 1:00.

    So a student taking his class who needs some help has one hour during the entire week to catch him.
    Here is what the student will likely encounter.
    Student arrives promptly at noon. Sees sign on door, “Be back in 15 minutes.
    12:30 Professor Ware arrives. To student: “Give me 10 minutes to make a call.”
    12:50: Professor Ware to student, “Come in please. Excuse me while I eat my sandwich.”
    12:52: Professor Ware to student: “Excuse me while I take this call” (His girlfriend is on the line)
    12:59: Professor to student: “Can you come back in two weeks? I’m not going to be here next Tuesday.”

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    A whole hour! To be fair, the type of student that would take one of his ridiculous courses is not the type of student that goes to a professor's office for help. It would be easier to fail, then complain.
  84. @syonredux
    Do they? None of the White girls that I know have ever dated a Black man, and most of them are Leftists (I'm an academic; being around Leftists is an occupational necessity ).

    I can’t imagine where you are then. Don’t they watch TV and movies?

  85. We really need to start ignoring such convoluted pseudo-intellectual nonsense. This guy’s bunk makes as much sense as that black professor who talks about “ice” people and “sun” people.

    We’ve been indulging such people for far too long. They don’t deserve the honor of having their goofy thoughts and wishful thinking taken seriously. Ignoring them or laughing outright is far better than attempting any kind of serious dialog.

  86. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    Metropolis always had the vibes of a UN bureaucratic city. I remember there being lots of statues to various heroes. Would Superman approve of them being torn down?

    Meanwhile, complete NAZI TERROR FAIL by someone called “Stephan B.” (was reported as being 34 years old, then 30, now 27):

    https://www.rt.com/news/470605-halle-shooting-synagogue-how-happened/

  87. @Steve Sailer
    My vague impression is that this year as a starter Kershaw tended to give up homers early then settled down and generally held the line enough for the Dodgers to come back and win, which makes him less than ideal as a reliever.

    Plus he threw Anthony Rendon, one of the three best hitters in the league, an 89 mph fastball. 89 mph fastballs worked okay for Fernando Valenzuela in 1981, but nowadays hitters are so optimized to hit homers ...

    I’ve seen more of the Dodgers in the last week than I have all year, and I’ve got to say: they must be the whitest team in baseball. Have they got a NE Patriots thing going on?

  88. Like Eskimos, the NY Times have 43 terms for whiteness.

  89. @Reg Cæsar
    Lawrence Ware =

    A renewal crew.
    Renew race law.
    We were carnal.


    https://c.cdn-expressen.se/images/cc/17/cc17c72256ff421bbcca08f37214026d/[email protected]

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTbGxd0iou0

    That last one is quite a metaphor.

  90. @PiltdownMan

    Crisis engulfs Gabon hospital founded to atone for colonial crimes
     
    That's some pretty serious retconning going on there. Schweitzer would have been surprised that it lasted so long, after his death.

    Albert Schweitzer was an altogether remarkable man with many talents, and he founded his hospital in Lambarene, Gabon primarily because of moral compulsions that sprang from his Christian faith.

    The New York Times and Reuters obituary from 1965 was more real.



    Schweitzer regarded most native Africans as children, as primitives. It was said that he had scarcely ever talked with an adult African on adult terms. He had little but contempt for the nationalist movement, for his attitudes were firmly grounded in 19th-century benevolence. Although thousands of Africans called him "le grand docteur," others plastered his village with signs, "Schweitzer, Go Home!"

    Needs Held Elementary

    "At this stage," Schweitzer said in 1963, "Africans have little need for advanced training. They need very elementary schools run along the old missionary plan, with the Africans going to school for a few hours every day and then going back to the fields. Agriculture, not science or industrialization, is their greatest need."

    His attitude was sharply expressed in a story he liked to tell of his orange trees. "I let the Africans pick all the fruit they want," he said. "You see, the good Lord has protected the trees. He made the Africans too lazy to pick them bare."
     

    https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0114.html

    Part of my high school English syllabus was a well known biography of Albert Schweitzer, All Men Are Brothers.

    “… Agriculture, not science or industrialization, is their greatest need.”

    Well, the modern world has met that need far too well.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  91. @Mister.Baseball
    Don't discount corporate espionage. Disney has a lot of networking, money and interest in making sure Warner Brothers characters-in-tights are forever uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. The Batman portion of DC is box office threat #1 to Disney-Marvel in a US Market where studios still make the bulk of their actual money.

    Disney doesn't really care how they massage it, just as long as their reasoning leads to the WB properties as being thought of as uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. So the editors or whoever pass it on down the line to reviewers approach it the only way they know how, by dragging their current year hot-takes into it.

    They do care very much about Warner Bros-D.C. as a competitor. Kevin Feige threw a fit when Wonder Woman beat their female superhero movie to theaters, and Marvel often makes decisions to try to head off possible D.C. ones.

    Good insight. Fans usually imagine that decisions are “artistic,” but you rarely go wrong looking at the money angle. It’s all just business.

  92. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    In the TV show “Smallville”, Metropolis seems to be a stand-in for Kansas City, as the characters seem to act as though it’s a hop, skip, and step away from their titular Kansas hometown.

    • Replies: @anon
    Comic books can pretend to be set in NYC, but for TV production costs, some Canadian prairie town won the rights to stand in for Metropolis.
  93. @Steve Sailer
    My vague impression is that this year as a starter Kershaw tended to give up homers early then settled down and generally held the line enough for the Dodgers to come back and win, which makes him less than ideal as a reliever.

    Plus he threw Anthony Rendon, one of the three best hitters in the league, an 89 mph fastball. 89 mph fastballs worked okay for Fernando Valenzuela in 1981, but nowadays hitters are so optimized to hit homers ...

    If he takes out Kershaw after the strikeout it’s redemption somewhat for Clayton. Instead, he’ll be a basket case. They had relievers ready to go esp Maeda.

    Playoff baseball is really fun w second guessing

  94. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    Yup about as trustworthy as a needle found in an alley

  95. @syonredux

    For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.
     
    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    http://www.peconsultingcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chrysler-Building2.jpg


    http://runawayjuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/paris-france-eiffel-tower.jpg

    https://designergirlee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/new-palace-of-westminster.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a53s4jyCqqU

    Best comment this morning.

  96. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    “Gotham” is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    Indeed, but the fictional Gotham of the Batman comics and movies is a rather gothic artistic creation that is only loosely connected to the actual, real-life New York City of our times, or the 1970s. Lawrence Ware’s dishonesty lies in pretending that the two are the same, and are interchangeable. He then doubles down by implying that mentally ill black people were singled out for neglect and would end up on the street, while white ones were not. In the actual New York City of the 1970s, there was little difference, as anyone who lived there can likely recall.

    I was very proud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Lol! Me, too. I must have been about ten or eleven.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Across the river from Gotham City is New Guernsey. At least in the TV edition. If that isn't a clue...

    I had always assumed "Gotham" was an architectural reference, but, no, it comes from this place:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham,_Nottinghamshire

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wise_Men_of_Gotham


    Detail is gone into here:


    https://pictures.abebooks.com/TULA3/18296889958.jpg


    There are a bunch of such Gothamite tales:

    https://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/2005/5/29
    http://pitt.edu/~dash/type1287.html#gotham
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Wise-Men-of-Gotham

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y3WNNo06WC0/W9IOKS9Bp1I/AAAAAAAAAbQ/A7DQX8kjeaUHvM3iXofZAZb6v31W-P-vgCLcBGAs/s1600/wise-men-of-gotham.jpg

  97. What accounts for the spike in 1996? The large winter storms of the winter of 95-96 in the Northeast? Or Clinton Get-Out-The-Vote agitation?

  98. @Mr. Trace, KTMP
    "In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest."

    I cherish my memories of getting mugged in NYC (in Manhattan and another borough). Those experiences taught me something that polite society cannot entertain.

    Let's hope that sanity returns and that Bill Wilhelm (a.k.a. "de Blasio") will soon be gone. Now, I must confess to an urge to touch his children's hair. His kids will be in competition with the Obama kids, though. Can't wait to experience these future political clashes!

    I cherish my memories of getting mugged in NYC (in Manhattan and another borough). Those experiences taught me something that polite society cannot entertain.

    Utterly invisible, until you got mugged. As I was, too, in 1978 and 1980, iirc.

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    All the bums passed out in doorways of the Bowery when I first saw them as a teenager circa 1948 were white.

    In 1968 I got stabbed by 2 PR teenagers in the Lower East Side.
  99. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Steve, I literally just deleted a post about being nervous with Kershaw as a reliever. I thought it sounded ridiculous.

    Roberts got too clever by half. Just go to Urías or Kelly for the 8th.

  100. @Autochthon
    Guy has a master's degree. In philosophy (not an easy discipline, if properly studied and taught). Doesn't have the vocabulary of a reasonably intelligent high-school student (who would know what "disinterested" means). Oh, and he has been hired by a college to teach!

    All you need to know about the state of "education."

    All you need to know about the state of “education.”

    Yes.

    And we have accepted decline in this and other institutions in the name of fairness, equality, a hand up, a jump start, etc.; but I’m not seeing the upside: what have we gotten for all this compromise, other than more non-performance, more complaints, and more demands?

  101. OT: The wogs begin at the Oder.

  102. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Lawrence Ware:

    https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/lawrencewareosu.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&strip=all

    Objectivity Illustrated.

    He looks very angry.

  103. Samuel Brett, a dangerous bitter misogynistic white racist stale male incel deplorable trailer park xenophobe loser on the way out and some invisible black guy.

    NYT Opinion: “That description is racist to black people”.

  104. @Oleaginous Outrager
    What the actual fuck is "sodomania"? Part of the Caught From Behind series?

    Lol well done sir!

  105. @Reg Cæsar

    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!?
     
    CNN: RT "is dead at 84"
    Washington Post: RT "dies at 88"
    Who ya gonna believe?

    Rip Taylor and Rip Torn were born the same year and died the same year. One was an Elmer and one an Elmore.

    It's like their only purpose in life was to confuse us.

    Rip Torn is dead? He was a talented actor. The other guy was third seat from the right on random game shows.

  106. If the Joker were played by a black man, it would get called out as racist for showing him in whiteface.

  107. @R.G. Camara
    1. Archive.org, please. Avoid giving the NY Times or any other corporate leftist site hits.

    2. It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it---trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about.

    3. Thanks for the promotion of my comment to your last article's main body.

    Regarding point 2: nobody will do anything, our last conversation will be about why there’s gas coming out of the communal shower heads, and the left absolutely knows that white mass shootings are statistically invisible but hypes them, to be able to blame whites for something, and to avoid talking about Muslims or blacks. Leftist hype about the imaginary “incel shooter” epidemic is an adaptation of the claim that serial killers and pedophiles are proprietarily white.

  108. @Hail

    it’s a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control
     
    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn't even really register on the international press radar.

    Of course not. Muslim violence is just something you’ll have to get used to.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    Or, as John Kerry said, we can work to make it nothing more than a mere "nuisance."
  109. Is the casting on this one an insult? Or is this the one exception to the rule that anyone could have played the role?

  110. The critic uses “white” or “whiteness” 13 times in one short piece. When I searched for him, one of the first hits bore this headline:

    “LAWRENCE WARE: Will not stop talking about racism”

    I’ll bet he won’t.

    If a white person ranted and raved about the blacks or da Joos an equal # of times, the NY Times would have no problem seeing that this person was racially obsessed and seeing things that just aren’t there. I see people like this commenting on Unz – the Jooz turn my milk sour, they are the power behind the Saudi throne, etc. and these people couldn’t come within a mile of being printed in the NY Times. The editors would hit the delete button on their submissions so fast that your head would spin. They would bag it as toxic waste and have it removed by a contractor. But this uh.. joker… gets ink in the NY Times because he’s obsessed about white people and that’s OK.

    His entire thesis is that if the Fleck character was black he would have been treated differently in 1981 – maybe this is true but he offers no evidence. Even if true, it’s not helpful to say the same thing 13 times. Certainly when it comes to 2019 he’s wrong. The Central Park 5, who, even if they did not rape that white woman were up to no good by their own admission (by up to no good, I don’t mean putting toilet paper in trees, I mean robbing and beating people unconscious). But pretty soon they are going to be putting their pictures on the currency at the rate we are going.

  111. I saw Joker this afternoon, in IMAX!, expecting a comic book. Joaquin Phoenix has a very expressive fact that has the structure of the Joker. But I thought he got a bit hammy, maybe because the movie, at 2 hours, was at least 30 minutes too long and he got bored. The side plot with the black chick added nothing. I didn’t see any overtly political message.

    All you cheap movie hounds should check out AMC’s Stub-1 movie pass. For as little as $18 a month, you can see 3 AMC movies per week. There is no extra charge for Imax, Dolby, etc. and the online “convenience charge” is waived. Plus you only have to commit for 3 months. The Joker in Imax was $19.89. When it was over, I walked into the lobby and booked Downton Abbey which started in 15 minutes for $15.79. Total cost to me: $0.00.

  112. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.

    You’re giving Ware too much credit. It has always been understood that Gotham City is a thinly veiled version of NYC – this is not an original observation on his part nor is it much of a stretch given the way that Gotham has always been depicted in the comics and later the movies. Nor would it have really made any difference if Gotham was Chicago instead of NY.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    Jack D, all true, but see my reply above. Lawrence Ware pretends that arguments about the fictional and the real settings are fully equivalent and interchangeable, and expects that we won't notice. Gotham of the Batman "world" may indeed be New York City, thinly veiled, but it is nevertheless a fiction, a fictional creation and artifice. It is not the actual New York City, in the here and now, or in the historical 1970s.
  113. @Jack D

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    You're giving Ware too much credit. It has always been understood that Gotham City is a thinly veiled version of NYC - this is not an original observation on his part nor is it much of a stretch given the way that Gotham has always been depicted in the comics and later the movies. Nor would it have really made any difference if Gotham was Chicago instead of NY.

    Jack D, all true, but see my reply above. Lawrence Ware pretends that arguments about the fictional and the real settings are fully equivalent and interchangeable, and expects that we won’t notice. Gotham of the Batman “world” may indeed be New York City, thinly veiled, but it is nevertheless a fiction, a fictional creation and artifice. It is not the actual New York City, in the here and now, or in the historical 1970s.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Sometimes my wife will wake up and will be at angry at me for something that I just did to her in the dream that has just concluded. I point out to her that this was just a dream and I didn't actually commit the offense I am accused of so she has no reason to be mad at me. She say, "Yes, but it was just like you to do that."

    Grievance has its own emotional logic and doesn't follow the white man's logic with its finicky requirements for evidence and arrows of causation, etc.
  114. OT: The white male who got the Nobel for literature is being criticised by neocons for questioning the neocon account of the Balkan war.

    Molly McKew
    Writer. Information warfare expert. Foreign Policy and Strategy Consultant. [email protected]

  115. The NYT seems to be written by bots which are stuck in some sort of “whiteness” loop.

  116. @PiltdownMan

    Crisis engulfs Gabon hospital founded to atone for colonial crimes
     
    That's some pretty serious retconning going on there. Schweitzer would have been surprised that it lasted so long, after his death.

    Albert Schweitzer was an altogether remarkable man with many talents, and he founded his hospital in Lambarene, Gabon primarily because of moral compulsions that sprang from his Christian faith.

    The New York Times and Reuters obituary from 1965 was more real.



    Schweitzer regarded most native Africans as children, as primitives. It was said that he had scarcely ever talked with an adult African on adult terms. He had little but contempt for the nationalist movement, for his attitudes were firmly grounded in 19th-century benevolence. Although thousands of Africans called him "le grand docteur," others plastered his village with signs, "Schweitzer, Go Home!"

    Needs Held Elementary

    "At this stage," Schweitzer said in 1963, "Africans have little need for advanced training. They need very elementary schools run along the old missionary plan, with the Africans going to school for a few hours every day and then going back to the fields. Agriculture, not science or industrialization, is their greatest need."

    His attitude was sharply expressed in a story he liked to tell of his orange trees. "I let the Africans pick all the fruit they want," he said. "You see, the good Lord has protected the trees. He made the Africans too lazy to pick them bare."
     

    https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0114.html

    Part of my high school English syllabus was a well known biography of Albert Schweitzer, All Men Are Brothers.

    You are probably aware that MSM is in denial of other, much more radical Schweitzer quote:

    I have given my life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilisation must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status; white, the superior, and they the inferior; for whenever a white man seeks to live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour him, and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit to this people let white men from anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa remember that you must continually retain this status; you the master, and they the inferior, like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternise with them as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you.”

    As for “Joker”- this stuff is as “deep” as is this film analysis

    • Replies: @El Dato
    This clip is actually good, although the geek monologue reminds me of Good Will Hunting.

    "Story of two female Manhattan book editors fresh out of college, both finding love and themselves while frequenting the local disco."

    A likely story!!
  117. @Anonymous
    Anime is surprisingly popular with blacks (guys)

    The black love of Yu Gi Oh is a phenom I can’t decipher.

  118. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    There’s a map showing Metropolis as supposedly in Delaware, Gotham as NYC, and Central City in Philly IIRC.

  119. @PiltdownMan
    Jack D, all true, but see my reply above. Lawrence Ware pretends that arguments about the fictional and the real settings are fully equivalent and interchangeable, and expects that we won't notice. Gotham of the Batman "world" may indeed be New York City, thinly veiled, but it is nevertheless a fiction, a fictional creation and artifice. It is not the actual New York City, in the here and now, or in the historical 1970s.

    Sometimes my wife will wake up and will be at angry at me for something that I just did to her in the dream that has just concluded. I point out to her that this was just a dream and I didn’t actually commit the offense I am accused of so she has no reason to be mad at me. She say, “Yes, but it was just like you to do that.”

    Grievance has its own emotional logic and doesn’t follow the white man’s logic with its finicky requirements for evidence and arrows of causation, etc.

  120. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    The best explanation I have seen is “Metropolis is New York in the daytime; Gotham City is New York at night.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That is good.
    , @BB753
    In the early comics, Gotham was more like Chicago, with its mobsters and kingpins. Where did they draw the inspiration for Arkham asylum? Was there a similar institution in either New York or Chicago?
  121. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    Superman’s Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto

    In the Smallville TV series, Smallville itself was in Kansas, and they often spoke of Metropolis as if it was nearby. So it pretty much would have to be Kansas City. Maybe Denver, but that’s over 3 hours away from even the nearest part of Kansas.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    In the Smallville TV series, Smallville itself was in Kansas, and they often spoke of Metropolis as if it was nearby. So it pretty much would have to be Kansas City. Maybe Denver, but that’s over 3 hours away from even the nearest part of Kansas.

    What about Wichita, Tulsa, Omaha?
  122. @Dieter Kief
    So a man beat to death four homeless persons on a boardwalk at the corner of the Bowery and East Broadway in NYC.

    (This is happened the first time in this world, right - four homeless people beat to death by one person?)

    A sidewalk, not a boardwalk. In America, boardwalks are usually found at the beach and rarely anywhere else. Old West towns sometimes had wooden sidewalks but I don’t think they were called boardwalks.

    For sanitary reasons NYC sidewalks have been concrete or other hard materials for a long time, especially down on the Lower East Side. In the 19th century most streets were made of cobblestone or brick paving blocks but asphalt paving was pioneered on the LES because it was thought to be easier to hose down in crowded ghetto areas with pushcart vendors, etc. It was understood to be less aesthetically pleasing than other paving materials but in the ghetto sanitation trumped aesthetics. A wooden sidewalk would have been a slimy mess in no time.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Yes, of course, JackD, a sidewalk. Thanks. That there is a class-system of sidewalk pavement is interesting. So tar is a ghetto-stuff. Reminds of the rocks I saw on Tuesday, up in the Austrian Kalkalpen - all covered with tar - black as the night. Ghetto rocks?! - They caught my eye for their natural ugliness... I grow a little bit wild myself soon as I'm in the mountains and have to crawl back when I return into the iron cage of obedience (Max Weber), called civilization...

    (I dislike the word sidewalk a little bit. Putting pedestrians aside - I associate something like this with this word. Except for that: It is at least a first world-first, isn't it: That one man beats for homeless persons to death on a sidewalk in a big city? - I'm still thinking about it.)

  123. I feel sorry for all the old guys here bragging about comic books: my generation got to spend our days kill prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto!

    So, the Joker: first off, Heath Ledger, this guy isn’t. This is yet another example of declining creativity for American popular culture. Think of something new, folks. Secondly, near as I can tell, if the Joker in this film was black, it’d be example of how American society is so viciously racist against black people that it portrays them as law-breaking psychotics for the New York Times.

    As usual, it is a no-win situation when dealing with the woke: you are Racist either way, Racist. So, you don’t bother. Give them the attention you would have given the Moral Panic types of previous eras if you are an aspiring creator: as a target of mockery or something to ignore. Not something to deal with rationally. You have to understand that modern wokeness is akin far more to religion than politics.

    So, make fun of them, ignore them, troll them instead. They are moral scolds. They cannot stand mockery of any kind. They’ll blow their top. Comic gold for the bold.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @anon
    As usual, it is a no-win situation when dealing with the woke: you are Racist either way, Racist. So, you don’t bother. Give them he attention you would have given the Moral Panic types of previous era

    You mean like Tipper Gore?

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FuI5eBZPsOo/0.jpg

    Did she have as big a megaphone as the Woke do?

    Vinyl records are back. I wonder if backward masking is back, too? Ya Hozna!

    https://media.wnyc.org/i/800/0/c/85/1/578958407.jpg
  124. @syonredux
    Do they? None of the White girls that I know have ever dated a Black man, and most of them are Leftists (I'm an academic; being around Leftists is an occupational necessity ).

    I think that high status black men (e.g. black professors, guys like Obama Sr. and Jr.) have no problem finding white women in academic circles who are willing to date them. Someone who combines the masculinity of blacks with intellectualism is a dream date (although they rarely make good long term mates because black men, even high status ones, rarely stick around). The problem is that there aren’t that many high status black men. Obama Jr. would have almost surely married a white woman if he hadn’t decided that he would have a career as a professional black “activist” instead of say a diplomat in the State Dept. (he was really born to do the latter).

    • Replies: @Alden
    Not this White woman.

    Men are primarily for conceiving beautiful White children with. Can’t do that unless the woman is a Scandinavian or Irish blue eyed blonde and the black man is a butterscotch colored 0ctoroon.

    Plus, black men are just not sexually attractive. Many are good looking in the standard black way. They’re all charming and flirtatious without going too far. But they’re sexually repulsive because they’re negroes however wonderful they are.

    Lots of asian men are attractive and the kids are very good looking. Same with Arab MENA types. For some reason, even the best looking Indians are icky but handsome Arabs are attractive.

    White women and black men, never ever ever.
    , @sayless
    Can’t agree Jack D., conflating masculinity with egotism, nope. That stratospheric self-esteem is comical.
  125. @Steve Sailer
    Dodgers got beat fair and square.

    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    Good enough to beat the Dodgers, that’s for true.
    Walgreens is a good retail chain, too.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    I'm surprised no one else picked up on the similarity between the two logos. And that Walmart hasn't bitched about it.
  126. @syonredux
    Do they? None of the White girls that I know have ever dated a Black man, and most of them are Leftists (I'm an academic; being around Leftists is an occupational necessity ).

    I’ve got a very close relative who is married to a black man. He’s a professional with multiple graduate degrees, though: he is the kind of guy who’d do OK with educated women of any background.

    Other cultures are a different story. See the Chinese washer commercial.

  127. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox
    I feel sorry for all the old guys here bragging about comic books: my generation got to spend our days kill prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto!

    So, the Joker: first off, Heath Ledger, this guy isn't. This is yet another example of declining creativity for American popular culture. Think of something new, folks. Secondly, near as I can tell, if the Joker in this film was black, it'd be example of how American society is so viciously racist against black people that it portrays them as law-breaking psychotics for the New York Times.

    As usual, it is a no-win situation when dealing with the woke: you are Racist either way, Racist. So, you don't bother. Give them the attention you would have given the Moral Panic types of previous eras if you are an aspiring creator: as a target of mockery or something to ignore. Not something to deal with rationally. You have to understand that modern wokeness is akin far more to religion than politics.

    So, make fun of them, ignore them, troll them instead. They are moral scolds. They cannot stand mockery of any kind. They'll blow their top. Comic gold for the bold.

    As usual, it is a no-win situation when dealing with the woke: you are Racist either way, Racist. So, you don’t bother. Give them he attention you would have given the Moral Panic types of previous era

    You mean like Tipper Gore?

    Did she have as big a megaphone as the Woke do?

    Vinyl records are back. I wonder if backward masking is back, too? Ya Hozna!


  128. Scowling indicates seriousness.

    Lawrence is a Professor of Black Black Blackedy Black Studies. But oddly enough, not at an HBCU. Which means he be appropriatin’ some book learning.

  129. This article is nothing but a call to purge all White men everywhere from all walks of life. It’s likely to happen, as either Hillary or Warren compete for the Black vote and best Trump. That is if a judge does not order him removed.

    Sessions and Kelly wanted to 25th Amendment Trump.

    Purging all White men had a lot of appeal to White women. They all get to move up and are honorary non Whites.

    Of course purged White men have every incentive to follow a Napoleon.

  130. What the film wants to say — about mental illness or class divisions in society — is not as interesting as what it accidentally says about whiteness.

    The Black guy who wrote this is a lantern holder for the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire. This black guy is paid money by the Sulzberger Mob to deflect any attention away from the money-grubbing scum in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    The plutocrat globalizers are stealing the Hell out of every damn thing in sight that they can financialize and grab money from, and this Black boob says look at that Honky over there walking around as White as a bowl of rice.

    This is the kind of globalizer stooge boy Black guy boob who is displacing Asian students and White Christian students at Harvard and other universities and colleges.

    White Core America must immediately begin to take back the corporate propaganda apparatus from the clutches of the JEW/WASP ruling class.

    Wealth gaps and income inequality and asset bubbles are bursting out all over the place and this house slave Black boob just does what the JEW/WASP ruling class says. You’ll see more and more scum like Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris and Beto O’Rourke and Pete Buttigieg and Cory Booker and this Black boob writer earn their pay as bought and paid for politician whores by deflecting any attention away from the plutocrat globalizers and the evil and immoral scum in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    WHITE CORE AMERICA RISING!

  131. @The Last Real Calvinist
    I was just about to post OT on this as well.

    Kershaw comes in in relief with a 3-1 lead. He throws 6 pitches, and gets a strikeout -- and gives up two home runs. Well, he certainly managed to pack a lot of drama into his very very very brief appearance, I guess.

    His post-season reputation is swirling rapidly already; it'll be down the chute if the Dodgers don't pull this one out.

    Kershaw is a veteran, well studied (by batters) starting pitcher. Starting pitchers are inclined to establish themselves for an inning or two, perhaps giving up a run or two, until they settle in for another four or so innings.

    Was this Coach Robert’s call or Rick Honeycutt’s (another great name)? I’d love to have some inside baseball on that.

    I’d have a put the less familiar Urias in there, based on my three years of coaching Little League. It doesn’t take much to have an opinion.

    Congrats to the Nats.

  132. @Steve Sailer
    Dodgers got beat fair and square.

    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    The Nationals were 19-31 in May. Since then they’ve been one of the best teams in baseball (top 2-3 record, something like that). Also only the Dodgers scored more runs in the regular season. Strasburg, Scherzer, Corbin, Rendon, Soto, Howie Kendrick – the Nationals are loaded.

    Dodgers had a great season. Its not like they lost to the Marlins.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, they sounded like trouble. The Dodgers have an amazing amount of depth but in a short series that matters less.
  133. @The Last Real Calvinist
    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.

    That pitch was destroyed – statcast (for what its worth) said it went 449 feet. As soon as the camera cut to watch the flight, the first thing I noticed was Bellinger and whoever was in RF just standing there watching it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Reminded me of St. Louis slugger Jack Clark's blast in 1985 that kept the Dodgers out of the World Series. Somebody asked the poor Dodger relief pitcher if he ever had any hope that it wouldn't leave the ballpark?

    "Yeah ... uh, sure ... if it hit the Goodyear Blimp and dropped straight down."

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Yeah, it's depressing when your outfielders don't even move.

    When I was a high school pitcher back in the day, I gave up only one home run in two seaons of varsity ball. Unfortunately, it was a no-doubter just like the Soto job. I remember my left fielder, who's still a good friend of mine, standing stock still watching it fly, then turning to stare at me even before it seemed like the ball had landed. Not a good day.

    What's got to be especially frustrating for Kershaw is the home run he gave up to Rendon first. I don't know if Kershaw threw a weak fastball or a slider for that one; his problem is that he's lost velocity on his fastball, badly, but for some odd reason his slider hasn't lost any speed at all, so now the pitches come in at the same speed. Anyway, Rendon didn't hit it all that hard, but it carried and carried and barely made it out. In the past, i.e. before the introduction of this year's Very Special Baseball, that's a fairly routine fly out to warning track.

    For a flyball pitcher -- actually, for any MLB pitcher -- the likelihood of giving up this kind of 'cheap' home run has to get into your head.

  134. I don’t understand the assumption that only white males are interested in Batman universe movies. These are immensely valuable properties because huge numbers of people show up to see them, which suggests they have broad appeal across racial lines.

    Everything has to be boxed up in neat packages. Only one dimension is allowed, even if life in reality is multi-dimensional and nuanced.

  135. I got as far as the claim that the homeless black man with a Spanish name who killed other homeless men is White. Oh well, just about everything in the NYTimes is the opposite of truth.

  136. @Dieter Kief
    For days, it was "a man" in the news. Only after a few days and after the French Minister of the Interiors had admitted, that big mistakes had been made in the past, concerning the terrorist, it became step by step known, that it was indeed a terrorist attack. - Oh, one of the big mistakes of the French police and politics: Not having looked into the background of Muslim terrorist connections, the man has obviously had - and which the police had known, without doing anything about it, before it was too late.

    French President Emmanuel Macron attacked the weak liberal way with Muslim terrorism this week, calling it an obvious failure.

    Let me guess, it was an “isolated incident” but not to worry “lessons have been learned”.

  137. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    I always assumed Gotham was NYC and Metropolis was LA.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The Batman and Superman characters have been going since the 1930s in various forms - comics, radio, TV, movies and there is very little consistency between the various media or even within the same medium as storylines peter out and it is necessary to "reboot" the characters and settings. So Gotham and Metropolis have been literally all over the map - sometimes they are twin cities across a bay, sometimes Bruce Wayne has to fly from one to the other on his jet. But generally speaking they (even Metropolis which is a sunnier place than dark and brooding Gotham) are depicted as being more "urban" and "east coast" looking than LA and lacking in palm trees, etc. Downtown LA in the '30s had a small skyscraper core but nothing compared to NY or Chicago and nothing like the skyline of Metropolis. Metropolis is also often depicted as sitting on a waterfront or lakefront ala Toronto or Chicago whereas downtown LA is (unusually) well away from any large body of water (unless you count the trickle of the LA River which actually explains its original placement in the semi-desert that Southern California once was). So of all the places that Metropolis might be, LA is not usually one of them.
    , @Steve Sailer
    The Superman creators were kids from Cleveland, so the cover illustration of the fine fictionalized version of their story, The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, shows that wild 1930ish skyscraper in Cleveland.

    But, generally, Metropolis is more or less New York, as is Gotham City.

    Christopher Nolan, from Evanston, got some mileage out of using Chicago for his first two Batman movies, then Pittsburgh, both of which have impressive skylines less familiar than Manhattan's.

    , @Alden
    I always thought Gotham was NYC but maybe Metropolis was small, maybe Kansas city Peoria Toledo Indianapolis. He was raised on a farm and went to the nearest city to work on the newspaper. I bought Tarzan my brothers bought Superman so we never had Batman comics.
  138. @Jack D
    I think that high status black men (e.g. black professors, guys like Obama Sr. and Jr.) have no problem finding white women in academic circles who are willing to date them. Someone who combines the masculinity of blacks with intellectualism is a dream date (although they rarely make good long term mates because black men, even high status ones, rarely stick around). The problem is that there aren't that many high status black men. Obama Jr. would have almost surely married a white woman if he hadn't decided that he would have a career as a professional black "activist" instead of say a diplomat in the State Dept. (he was really born to do the latter).

    Not this White woman.

    Men are primarily for conceiving beautiful White children with. Can’t do that unless the woman is a Scandinavian or Irish blue eyed blonde and the black man is a butterscotch colored 0ctoroon.

    Plus, black men are just not sexually attractive. Many are good looking in the standard black way. They’re all charming and flirtatious without going too far. But they’re sexually repulsive because they’re negroes however wonderful they are.

    Lots of asian men are attractive and the kids are very good looking. Same with Arab MENA types. For some reason, even the best looking Indians are icky but handsome Arabs are attractive.

    White women and black men, never ever ever.

    • Agree: Father O'Hara
    • Replies: @fish

    White women and black men, never ever ever.
     
    You're spoiling Whiskeys narrative……..
  139. @Days of Broken Arrows
    "It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it—trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about."

    That's not why they're harping on this movie. They're making a big deal out of it because it's a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control -- and that white men are the real danger and ready to go berserk at any moment.

    This is, of course, a lies. So why do they want people to think this?

    Because making people think whites are the problem obscures the fact that it's really black violence that's out of control. For example, I saw one write-up related to this movie that mentions that white terrorism in the U.S. has now killed over 150 people total. That sounds bad...until you remember that in Baltimore and Chicago alone that many people are killed in a few months by blacks.

    In short, this movie is a way for the press to spread a lie. Fear of the movie is an allegory about fear of white men...who are statistically not the group we should be fearing.

    It’s not some great conspiracy to make white people look bad, it has to do with how people process statistical information. For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes. But most people are more afraid of getting on a jet than they are of driving to the airport. And a jet crash where 100 people die is going to make the front page of the newspaper while the 80 different fatal car crashes that occurred that same day scattered across the country are not.

    Likewise, people (who are mostly black males living in the ghetto and not like you anyway) getting shot 1 or 2 at a time (even if it add up to thousands over the course of a year) is processed differently and handled by the media differently than 1 mass shooter killing 58 people and wounding hundreds all at once and this has nothing to do with racism or anti-whitism.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes.
     
    If you took the mortality rate of air vs car travel as a % of trips taken, I suspect the numbers would greatly favor cars. Imagine that instead of driving to the grocery store, we flew there, just like the Jetsons.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    You're kidding, right? You sound like the people who look at an obviously racially motivated atrocity, like say, the Knoxville Horror, and immediately proclaim, "The motivation was robbery. Race had nothing to do with it."

    I no longer try and change such people's minds.
    , @bomag

    It’s not some great conspiracy to make white people look bad, it has to do with how people process statistical information.
     
    I see your point, but there is still quite a bit of bias in reporting crime differences.
  140. @Days of Broken Arrows
    "It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it—trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about."

    That's not why they're harping on this movie. They're making a big deal out of it because it's a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control -- and that white men are the real danger and ready to go berserk at any moment.

    This is, of course, a lies. So why do they want people to think this?

    Because making people think whites are the problem obscures the fact that it's really black violence that's out of control. For example, I saw one write-up related to this movie that mentions that white terrorism in the U.S. has now killed over 150 people total. That sounds bad...until you remember that in Baltimore and Chicago alone that many people are killed in a few months by blacks.

    In short, this movie is a way for the press to spread a lie. Fear of the movie is an allegory about fear of white men...who are statistically not the group we should be fearing.

    Very much an example of them using fiction to say something about the real world.

  141. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy.

    It’s a sad day when the NYT features an article by a critic who clearly doesn’t understand the concept of fiction.

  142. @Jack D
    A sidewalk, not a boardwalk. In America, boardwalks are usually found at the beach and rarely anywhere else. Old West towns sometimes had wooden sidewalks but I don't think they were called boardwalks.

    For sanitary reasons NYC sidewalks have been concrete or other hard materials for a long time, especially down on the Lower East Side. In the 19th century most streets were made of cobblestone or brick paving blocks but asphalt paving was pioneered on the LES because it was thought to be easier to hose down in crowded ghetto areas with pushcart vendors, etc. It was understood to be less aesthetically pleasing than other paving materials but in the ghetto sanitation trumped aesthetics. A wooden sidewalk would have been a slimy mess in no time.

    Yes, of course, JackD, a sidewalk. Thanks. That there is a class-system of sidewalk pavement is interesting. So tar is a ghetto-stuff. Reminds of the rocks I saw on Tuesday, up in the Austrian Kalkalpen – all covered with tar – black as the night. Ghetto rocks?! – They caught my eye for their natural ugliness… I grow a little bit wild myself soon as I’m in the mountains and have to crawl back when I return into the iron cage of obedience (Max Weber), called civilization…

    (I dislike the word sidewalk a little bit. Putting pedestrians aside – I associate something like this with this word. Except for that: It is at least a first world-first, isn’t it: That one man beats for homeless persons to death on a sidewalk in a big city? – I’m still thinking about it.)

    • Replies: @Kronos
    You might get a kick out of this.

    https://youtu.be/vxopfjXkArM
  143. @PiltdownMan

    “Gotham” is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:
     
    Indeed, but the fictional Gotham of the Batman comics and movies is a rather gothic artistic creation that is only loosely connected to the actual, real-life New York City of our times, or the 1970s. Lawrence Ware's dishonesty lies in pretending that the two are the same, and are interchangeable. He then doubles down by implying that mentally ill black people were singled out for neglect and would end up on the street, while white ones were not. In the actual New York City of the 1970s, there was little difference, as anyone who lived there can likely recall.

    I was very proud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!
     

    Lol! Me, too. I must have been about ten or eleven.

    Across the river from Gotham City is New Guernsey. At least in the TV edition. If that isn’t a clue…

    I had always assumed “Gotham” was an architectural reference, but, no, it comes from this place:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham,_Nottinghamshire

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wise_Men_of_Gotham

    Detail is gone into here:

    There are a bunch of such Gothamite tales:

    https://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/2005/5/29
    http://pitt.edu/~dash/type1287.html#gotham
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Wise-Men-of-Gotham

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Washington Irving is said to have started the nickname "Gotham" for New York in 1807.
  144. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows
    "It really seems the Left is terrified that Real Soon some spark is going to ignite and drive the white guys into a mega, murderous revolt against them. Hence why they all jumped on Joker before seeing it—trying to snuff out any potential spark amongst the tinder they laid about."

    That's not why they're harping on this movie. They're making a big deal out of it because it's a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control -- and that white men are the real danger and ready to go berserk at any moment.

    This is, of course, a lies. So why do they want people to think this?

    Because making people think whites are the problem obscures the fact that it's really black violence that's out of control. For example, I saw one write-up related to this movie that mentions that white terrorism in the U.S. has now killed over 150 people total. That sounds bad...until you remember that in Baltimore and Chicago alone that many people are killed in a few months by blacks.

    In short, this movie is a way for the press to spread a lie. Fear of the movie is an allegory about fear of white men...who are statistically not the group we should be fearing.

    I disagree they’re boosting the status of the film because it’s leftist propaganda through and through they’re just gas-lighting everyone. They’ve been doing this for awhile yet few seem to mention it most just take them at their word when you really shouldn’t. Fool’s hear the media and think “Oh they hate this film, i should go support it just to anger them.” when really it’s just a trick to get you to sit through their agitprop and give them money.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    A triple bank shot! Only see movies the Left loves because they are only pretending to hate the ones that they hate to trick you into seeing them. Oh, wait, don't see those either. In fact, don't see any movies - they're all Leftist propaganda.
  145. So… is this movie Sailor Approved?

    I would like to see its stamp of approval before I pay money to see it.

  146. @R.G. Camara
    Joker sure made one thing clear: this Halloween (22 days away), half of all white adult male costumes will be clowns, either Phoenix's Joker or Pennywise from this year's It.

    I remember when Ledger died and The Dark Knight came out, and that Halloween every Goth-wannabe and out-of-work actor and sad, lonely, friendless high school kid was dressing up like him.

    We had kids dressed up as Steve Jobs for a number of years.

  147. @Jack D
    I think that high status black men (e.g. black professors, guys like Obama Sr. and Jr.) have no problem finding white women in academic circles who are willing to date them. Someone who combines the masculinity of blacks with intellectualism is a dream date (although they rarely make good long term mates because black men, even high status ones, rarely stick around). The problem is that there aren't that many high status black men. Obama Jr. would have almost surely married a white woman if he hadn't decided that he would have a career as a professional black "activist" instead of say a diplomat in the State Dept. (he was really born to do the latter).

    Can’t agree Jack D., conflating masculinity with egotism, nope. That stratospheric self-esteem is comical.

  148. @Lurker
    I always assumed Gotham was NYC and Metropolis was LA.

    The Batman and Superman characters have been going since the 1930s in various forms – comics, radio, TV, movies and there is very little consistency between the various media or even within the same medium as storylines peter out and it is necessary to “reboot” the characters and settings. So Gotham and Metropolis have been literally all over the map – sometimes they are twin cities across a bay, sometimes Bruce Wayne has to fly from one to the other on his jet. But generally speaking they (even Metropolis which is a sunnier place than dark and brooding Gotham) are depicted as being more “urban” and “east coast” looking than LA and lacking in palm trees, etc. Downtown LA in the ’30s had a small skyscraper core but nothing compared to NY or Chicago and nothing like the skyline of Metropolis. Metropolis is also often depicted as sitting on a waterfront or lakefront ala Toronto or Chicago whereas downtown LA is (unusually) well away from any large body of water (unless you count the trickle of the LA River which actually explains its original placement in the semi-desert that Southern California once was). So of all the places that Metropolis might be, LA is not usually one of them.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    OK thanks, also I suppose LA looms larger these days, but perhaps less so when these comics were new.
    , @Autochthon
    But what about Star City and Coast City? No love for them?
  149. @Anonymous
    I disagree they're boosting the status of the film because it's leftist propaganda through and through they're just gas-lighting everyone. They've been doing this for awhile yet few seem to mention it most just take them at their word when you really shouldn't. Fool's hear the media and think "Oh they hate this film, i should go support it just to anger them." when really it's just a trick to get you to sit through their agitprop and give them money.

    A triple bank shot! Only see movies the Left loves because they are only pretending to hate the ones that they hate to trick you into seeing them. Oh, wait, don’t see those either. In fact, don’t see any movies – they’re all Leftist propaganda.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I never implied that you should see films they love or that every film is some sort of trick. It's apparent by the level of hyperbole what media they're promoting for this purpose. There have been many examples of this since Trump's election in all forms of media.

    SJW outrage is a marketing tool of elites to promote empire friendly beliefs in opposition to things like closing the border or having a normal nation not an empire. They're also beliefs Trump has promoted by going out of his way to prove he's not racist because white racial consciousness is a threat to the empire far greater than "race doesn't matter" or "legal not illegal immigration is good" beliefs which maintain domestic stability in an increasingly diverse society.

    There was an elevation in white racial awareness leading up to Trump's election and the over the top media rhetoric post-election is realigning the overton window back into the "common sense" beliefs of neo-conservatism or neo-liberalism pick your poison. People are longing for the old status quo because of the threat of open borders and the open media attacks on white people.
  150. @eah
    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1181951417419911169

    Professor Kevin MacDonald:

    Anti-White hate is now firmly ensconced in the academic world and the establishment in general.

    I say:

    This is why the word WHITE has been used for the name of the new patriotic political party called WHITE CORE AMERICA.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is anti-White and anti-Christian and anti-European American. Anti-White animosity is pushed by the hostile JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Tens of millions of American Whites born after 1965 want a political party to advance the interests of Whites as Whites. White Core America is the new political party that will dislodge the treasonous Republican Party from power.

    Warren or Biden as the Democrat Party presidential nominee guarantees that the Green Party will get millions of votes. White Core America will get even more votes than the Green Party from White Christian Americans who want a political party that advances the interests of Whites and the interests of White families and the interests of the White Christian Ancestral Core of the USA.

  151. @eah
    Also by Lawrence Ware:

    How to Survive, Be Safe and Thrive at a Predominantly White Institution


    I experienced many firsts when I left home for college. First car, first full-time job, first time being racially profiled and first time being called n—ger. Life comes at you fast if you’re black at a predominantly white institution.

    No one prepared me for the multiple assaults on my humanity that I experienced at a PWI.
     

    The interesting question here is this: how did he, and how do others like him, get a platform in the NYT? -- what is the decision-making process there? -- are they rated on a scale of anti-whiteness/how many unverifiable anti-white anecdotes are in their writing? -- and it's not just the NYT: do a search to see where else he's been published.

    first time being racially profiled

    He means “first time something happened I didn’t like, which I attribute to my being black”

    first time being called n—ger

    This almost certainly didn’t happen unless it was by another black.

    No one prepared me for the multiple assaults on my humanity that I experienced at a PWI.

    And yet here you (still) are.

    • Replies: @Charon

    This almost certainly didn’t happen unless it was by another black.
     
    Good catch. That maintains the "plausible deniability" thing the NYT likes. Though everyone here knows full well it wasn't his first time for that. Self-reported anecdotes always count as Truth when they support the Narrative.
  152. @Alden
    Not this White woman.

    Men are primarily for conceiving beautiful White children with. Can’t do that unless the woman is a Scandinavian or Irish blue eyed blonde and the black man is a butterscotch colored 0ctoroon.

    Plus, black men are just not sexually attractive. Many are good looking in the standard black way. They’re all charming and flirtatious without going too far. But they’re sexually repulsive because they’re negroes however wonderful they are.

    Lots of asian men are attractive and the kids are very good looking. Same with Arab MENA types. For some reason, even the best looking Indians are icky but handsome Arabs are attractive.

    White women and black men, never ever ever.

    White women and black men, never ever ever.

    You’re spoiling Whiskeys narrative……..

  153. @Stephen Paul Foster
    I clicked on his Ok-State, phil dept web page.

    His office hours: Tuesday 12:00 to 1:00.

    So a student taking his class who needs some help has one hour during the entire week to catch him.
    Here is what the student will likely encounter.
    Student arrives promptly at noon. Sees sign on door, "Be back in 15 minutes.
    12:30 Professor Ware arrives. To student: "Give me 10 minutes to make a call."
    12:50: Professor Ware to student, "Come in please. Excuse me while I eat my sandwich."
    12:52: Professor Ware to student: "Excuse me while I take this call" (His girlfriend is on the line)
    12:59: Professor to student: "Can you come back in two weeks? I'm not going to be here next Tuesday."

    A whole hour! To be fair, the type of student that would take one of his ridiculous courses is not the type of student that goes to a professor’s office for help. It would be easier to fail, then complain.

  154. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    All the bums passed out in doorways of the Bowery when I first saw them as a teenager circa 1948 were white.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The black bums were all up in Harlem. In those days, even Skid Row was segregated, that's how racist America was.

    I feel as if the character of the bum has disappeared, replaced by "the homeless". In those days, real estate in NY was cheap enough that even bums could afford to stay in flophouses and not sleep outdoors except in nice weather. Bums were mostly just alcoholics whereas the homeless are usually mentally ill and/or drug addicts.
  155. @syonredux

    For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.
     
    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    http://www.peconsultingcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chrysler-Building2.jpg


    http://runawayjuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/paris-france-eiffel-tower.jpg

    https://designergirlee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/new-palace-of-westminster.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a53s4jyCqqU

    You forggot to mention colonialism, slavery, World War I and II, debt slavery to Western banks and the Nazi Holocaust.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    You forggot to mention colonialism,
     
    Been around since prehistoric times...

    slavery,
     
    Ditto

    World War I and II,
     
    Big wars have been around for a long time........For example. the Mongol Conquests....

    Colin McEvedy, Atlas of World Population History (1978):
    China Proper: In the text, he states that the population declined by 35 million as the Mongols reduced the country to subjugation during the 13th Century. In the Chart, the population drops from 115M to 85M between 1200 and 1300 CE. (p.172)
    Iran: Charted population declined from 5.0M to 3.5M
    Afghanistan: from 2.50M to 1.75M
    Russia-in-Europe: 7.5M to 7M
    This indicates a total population decline of some 37.75 million.
     

    debt slavery to Western banks
     
    Now you're just being anti-Semitic....

    and the Nazi Holocaust.
     
    Lotsa Holocausts to go around, dear boy....


    Here's a couple of good ones.Turkish Genocide of the Armenians:

    1915-18 (generally included in the Death Tolls for World War One)
    Britannica: 600,000
    Dict.Wars: 600,000 died of starvation, disease and exhaustion
    Steven Katz in Is the Holocaust Unique? (Rosenbaum, ed.): 475,800 - 775,800
    Encarta: 800,000
    Kuper: 800,000
    Sabrina Tavernise, “Nearly a Million Genocide Victims, Covered in a Cloak of Amnesia”, New York Times, March 8, 2009. “According to a long-hidden document that belonged to the interior minister of the Ottoman Empire, 972,000 Ottoman Armenians disappeared from official population records from 1915 through 1916.” [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/world/europe/09turkey.html]
    Martin Gilbert, A History of the Twentieth Century: 1,000,000
    Eckhardt: 1,000,000 civ.
    Robert Melson in Is the Holocaust Unique?: 1,000,000
    Christopher Walker, Armenia : The Survival of a Nation (1980): 1,000,000 (in Turkey, 1915-16), plus an additional 50-100,000 (invasion of the Caucasus, 1918)
    Alan Palmer, The Decline & Fall of the Ottoman Empire (1992)
    Official Turkish est.: 300,000
    max. Armenian claims: 2M
    probable: >1,300,000 during war and aftermath
    Porter: 1,000,000 to 1,500,000
    Rummel: 1,404,000 domestic, 83,000 foreign
    War Annual 8 (1997): 1,500,000

     


    The Dzungar genocide was the mass extermination of the Mongol Buddhist Dzungar people, at the hands of the Manchu Qing dynasty of China.[2] The Qianlong Emperor ordered the genocide due to the rebellion in 1755 by Dzungar leader Amursana against Qing rule, after the dynasty first conquered the Dzungar Khanate with Amursana's support. The genocide was perpetrated by Manchu generals of the Qing army sent to crush the Dzungars, supported by Uyghur allies and vassals due to the Uyghur revolt against Dzungar rule.
     

    The Dzungar Khanate was a confederation of several Tibetan Buddhist Oirat Mongol tribes that emerged in the early 17th century, and the last great nomadic empire in Asia. Some scholars estimate that about 80% of the Dzungar population, or around 500,000 to 800,000 people, were killed by a combination of warfare and disease during or after the Qing conquest in 1755–1757.[3][4] After wiping out the native population of Dzungaria, the Qing government then resettled Han, Hui, Uyghur, and Xibe people on state farms in Dzungaria along with Manchu Bannermen to repopulate the area.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide
  156. @Dieter Kief
    Yes, of course, JackD, a sidewalk. Thanks. That there is a class-system of sidewalk pavement is interesting. So tar is a ghetto-stuff. Reminds of the rocks I saw on Tuesday, up in the Austrian Kalkalpen - all covered with tar - black as the night. Ghetto rocks?! - They caught my eye for their natural ugliness... I grow a little bit wild myself soon as I'm in the mountains and have to crawl back when I return into the iron cage of obedience (Max Weber), called civilization...

    (I dislike the word sidewalk a little bit. Putting pedestrians aside - I associate something like this with this word. Except for that: It is at least a first world-first, isn't it: That one man beats for homeless persons to death on a sidewalk in a big city? - I'm still thinking about it.)

    You might get a kick out of this.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    I did. Thanks!
    To blame walkers for the death of automobilists is the kind of capitalism gone wild Max Weber - oh, ok: The kind of capitalism which is definitely over the top. Didn't know the history of the term jaywalkers too. Jays love to walk around, though. Magpies even more so.

    A few days ago I saw a pair of eastern hooded crows who made it to the south of Germany. They specialized in patrolling in a supermarket parking lot and did not fly at all as long as I watched them (ca 20 minutes). This technique seemed to serve them well - they found all kinds of food there without much effort. The numerous cars rolling in and out were no problem for them at all.
  157. @PiltdownMan

    I cherish my memories of getting mugged in NYC (in Manhattan and another borough). Those experiences taught me something that polite society cannot entertain.
     
    Utterly invisible, until you got mugged. As I was, too, in 1978 and 1980, iirc.

    All the bums passed out in doorways of the Bowery when I first saw them as a teenager circa 1948 were white.

    In 1968 I got stabbed by 2 PR teenagers in the Lower East Side.

  158. @Reg Cæsar
    I prefer my white supremacy checked.


    https://scotweb-objects.com/images/thumbnailer/112x182/tartanmill/swhdr/the-balmoral-kilt-traditional-8-yard-kilt-with-flashes/tartanmill-the-balmoral-kilt-traditional-8-yard-kilt-with-flashes-1.jpg

    https://cdn.royalandawesome.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/r/p/rpad_1.1555329835.jpg

    https://assets.scotlandshop.com/assets.scotlandshop.com/products/206_3.jpg?mtime=20180723100641

    https://www.tomjames.com/pics/catalog/2016SP//large/Formal-049.jpg

    This White supremacist prefers black gray and White houndstooth.

  159. No Ware would be caught dead with both shoulders naked.
    Koko B. Ware: Wears a macaw called “Frankie” on his shoulder

    Lawrence Ware: Wears a chip called “blackness” on his shoulder

  160. @Bardon Kaldian
    You are probably aware that MSM is in denial of other, much more radical Schweitzer quote:


    I have given my life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilisation must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status; white, the superior, and they the inferior; for whenever a white man seeks to live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour him, and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit to this people let white men from anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa remember that you must continually retain this status; you the master, and they the inferior, like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternise with them as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you."
     
    As for "Joker"- this stuff is as "deep" as is this film analysis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUGmWlkJZk

    This clip is actually good, although the geek monologue reminds me of Good Will Hunting.

    “Story of two female Manhattan book editors fresh out of college, both finding love and themselves while frequenting the local disco.”

    A likely story!!

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    I am not talking about "The Last Days of Disco" (which is something like a cult movie - https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-last-days-of-disco-1998). Just referring to a comical analysis of "Lady and the Tramp", which gives us layers of meanings similar to those read into "Joker"- which is, actually, surreal.
    ------
    Stillman listens to how people talk, and knows what it reveals about them. His characters have been supplied by their Ivy League schools with the techniques but not the subjects of intelligent conversation, and so they discuss "The Lady and the Tramp" with the kind of self-congratulatory earnestness that French students would reserve for Marx and Freud.
  161. Mad props for the link in your Joker review to the Cyrus speech at the beginning of The Warriors. I’ll see your ‘can you dig it’ and raise you a ‘because it’s ALL our turf!’

  162. @syonredux

    For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.
     
    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    http://www.peconsultingcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chrysler-Building2.jpg


    http://runawayjuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/paris-france-eiffel-tower.jpg

    https://designergirlee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/new-palace-of-westminster.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a53s4jyCqqU

    Thank you thank you

    May I add survival of mother’s and babies in childbirth and eradication of smallpox, typhoid typhus Scarlett fever tuberculosis diphtheria polio cholera and other deadly diseases.

  163. The Civil War just wasn’t worth it….I’m really starting to hate Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain…….

  164. @William Badwhite

    first time being racially profiled
     
    He means "first time something happened I didn't like, which I attribute to my being black"

    first time being called n—ger
     
    This almost certainly didn't happen unless it was by another black.

    No one prepared me for the multiple assaults on my humanity that I experienced at a PWI.
     
    And yet here you (still) are.

    This almost certainly didn’t happen unless it was by another black.

    Good catch. That maintains the “plausible deniability” thing the NYT likes. Though everyone here knows full well it wasn’t his first time for that. Self-reported anecdotes always count as Truth when they support the Narrative.

  165. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    A triple bank shot! Only see movies the Left loves because they are only pretending to hate the ones that they hate to trick you into seeing them. Oh, wait, don't see those either. In fact, don't see any movies - they're all Leftist propaganda.

    I never implied that you should see films they love or that every film is some sort of trick. It’s apparent by the level of hyperbole what media they’re promoting for this purpose. There have been many examples of this since Trump’s election in all forms of media.

    SJW outrage is a marketing tool of elites to promote empire friendly beliefs in opposition to things like closing the border or having a normal nation not an empire. They’re also beliefs Trump has promoted by going out of his way to prove he’s not racist because white racial consciousness is a threat to the empire far greater than “race doesn’t matter” or “legal not illegal immigration is good” beliefs which maintain domestic stability in an increasingly diverse society.

    There was an elevation in white racial awareness leading up to Trump’s election and the over the top media rhetoric post-election is realigning the overton window back into the “common sense” beliefs of neo-conservatism or neo-liberalism pick your poison. People are longing for the old status quo because of the threat of open borders and the open media attacks on white people.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    People are longing for the old status quo because of the threat of open borders and the open media attacks on white people.
     
    Why do you say that? From what I've seen, people are still holding firm in their beliefs.
  166. @Mister.Baseball
    Don't discount corporate espionage. Disney has a lot of networking, money and interest in making sure Warner Brothers characters-in-tights are forever uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. The Batman portion of DC is box office threat #1 to Disney-Marvel in a US Market where studios still make the bulk of their actual money.

    Disney doesn't really care how they massage it, just as long as their reasoning leads to the WB properties as being thought of as uninteresting, underwhelming, and downright bad for you. So the editors or whoever pass it on down the line to reviewers approach it the only way they know how, by dragging their current year hot-takes into it.

    They do care very much about Warner Bros-D.C. as a competitor. Kevin Feige threw a fit when Wonder Woman beat their female superhero movie to theaters, and Marvel often makes decisions to try to head off possible D.C. ones.

    Good point. I’m no intellectual, but my first thought about anything is Who Benefits. Next is What competitor is targeted.

    Beef causes heart attacks Fish prevents heart attacks Meat causes obesity. Healthy carbs cause slimness.

    It’s just negative advertising. Criticize the competition.

  167. @Ian Smith
    A black professor writing about how pop culture something something black black blackety black. I’m shocked! Although the most annoying thing is the misuse of ‘disinterest.’

    A black academic who makes everything about race and misuses words? Now I’ve heard of everything!

  168. @Hail

    it’s a way to make it seem like violent crime by white males is out of control
     
    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn't even really register on the international press radar.

    Meanwhile, a Muslim massacred four French police officers last week. It didn’t even really register on the international press radar.

    Well, not only was he muslim, but …

  169. NYT is what happens when Jewish Supremacism goes unchecked. Reaches new levels of mendacity and hypocrisy.

  170. The 2007 (the last trial took place two months ago) Christian-Newsom torture murders are what happens when black criminality is excused and rationalized.

  171. @Kronos
    You might get a kick out of this.

    https://youtu.be/vxopfjXkArM

    I did. Thanks!
    To blame walkers for the death of automobilists is the kind of capitalism gone wild Max Weber – oh, ok: The kind of capitalism which is definitely over the top. Didn’t know the history of the term jaywalkers too. Jays love to walk around, though. Magpies even more so.

    A few days ago I saw a pair of eastern hooded crows who made it to the south of Germany. They specialized in patrolling in a supermarket parking lot and did not fly at all as long as I watched them (ca 20 minutes). This technique seemed to serve them well – they found all kinds of food there without much effort. The numerous cars rolling in and out were no problem for them at all.

  172. @El Dato
    This clip is actually good, although the geek monologue reminds me of Good Will Hunting.

    "Story of two female Manhattan book editors fresh out of college, both finding love and themselves while frequenting the local disco."

    A likely story!!

    I am not talking about “The Last Days of Disco” (which is something like a cult movie – https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-last-days-of-disco-1998). Just referring to a comical analysis of “Lady and the Tramp”, which gives us layers of meanings similar to those read into “Joker”- which is, actually, surreal.
    ——
    Stillman listens to how people talk, and knows what it reveals about them. His characters have been supplied by their Ivy League schools with the techniques but not the subjects of intelligent conversation, and so they discuss “The Lady and the Tramp” with the kind of self-congratulatory earnestness that French students would reserve for Marx and Freud.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    I see.
    , @Jack D
    Joke's on you. The French discuss Jerry Lewis movies with the same degree of seriousness.
  173. I wondered what caused the blip in the NYT’s use of “whiteness” in 1997. A Google search suggests an answer.

    30 Nov 1997 – Margaret Talbot article on hot new academic field of whiteness studies

    https://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/30/magazine/getting-credit-for-being-white.html

  174. @Reg Cæsar

    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!?
     
    CNN: RT "is dead at 84"
    Washington Post: RT "dies at 88"
    Who ya gonna believe?

    Rip Taylor and Rip Torn were born the same year and died the same year. One was an Elmer and one an Elmore.

    It's like their only purpose in life was to confuse us.

    Rip Torn had six children. Rip Taylor maybe fantasised about having six children….

    (Thanks; I’ll be here all week. Please tip your bartenders and waitresses generously.)

  175. @Steve Sailer
    Dodgers got beat fair and square.

    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    Dodgers got beat fair and square.

    Been happening the last couple of years with the Dodgers, Steve. Still, I got the distinct impression last year that the Dodgers would rather have lost, tanked the game-whatever against the Red Sox. Ok, not tanked, but after all, with the Series done, no need to go back to cold, rain-soaked Boston for game 6/7. Perhaps a mitigating factor to the disappointment of losing? No trip to Boston, no cold and rain, deal done. Just stay in LA, clean out the locker and go play golf, tee-time at Riviera, 1PM, see you in March. Given my opinion of the lack of vigor of their effort, I also have to say I think Price got far more credit for his effort than HE deserved. A piss-ant all year, intensely disliked by the press, he was all of a sudden deified for one lousy game, vindicated. I hate when that happens for his sort. And he gloats, to boot.

    Didn’t get those impressions about the Dodgers this year. Their bats went cold on the wrong night and of course, Kelly hung one up for consideration resulting in the Grand Slam. Speaking of vindicated, Cora must have seen something in Joe Kelly that he let Kelly go this year to the upset of the press, given the Red Sox’ shitty bullpen this year. But Kelly made it all good last night, heh..

  176. @The Last Real Calvinist
    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.

    . . . and then he served that hanging slider to Soto on a platter with a nice autumnal garnish. It was terrible.

    That was so folksy, so Bob Ryan, heh..

  177. @Hapalong Cassidy
    In the TV show “Smallville”, Metropolis seems to be a stand-in for Kansas City, as the characters seem to act as though it’s a hop, skip, and step away from their titular Kansas hometown.

    Comic books can pretend to be set in NYC, but for TV production costs, some Canadian prairie town won the rights to stand in for Metropolis.

  178. The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981

    Steve, you know how you do a Ctrl-F for “immi-” or “migr-” in stories about structural employment, and invariably come up with nothing? You should search for “Goetz” in stories like this.

  179. @Dieter Kief
    So a man beat to death four homeless persons on a boardwalk at the corner of the Bowery and East Broadway in NYC.

    (This is happened the first time in this world, right - four homeless people beat to death by one person?)

    The four killings were separate incidents – the homeless weren’t together on a single corner, but were sleeping separately within a couple blocks of each other.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    Thanks for the clarification.

    In the article linked by Steve Sailer, I read:

    "The program, run by the nonprofit Center for Court Innovation, provides defendants with mental-health counseling, drug treatment, job training, and other services, its website says."

    Unless the inmate, after having been set free, decides not to show up at the "Center For Court Innovation". - It's buy now, pay later social engineering at the cost of the four homeless persons in this case - and a fifth one, who suffered severe injuries.
  180. @Rex Little

    Superman’s Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto
     
    In the Smallville TV series, Smallville itself was in Kansas, and they often spoke of Metropolis as if it was nearby. So it pretty much would have to be Kansas City. Maybe Denver, but that's over 3 hours away from even the nearest part of Kansas.

    In the Smallville TV series, Smallville itself was in Kansas, and they often spoke of Metropolis as if it was nearby. So it pretty much would have to be Kansas City. Maybe Denver, but that’s over 3 hours away from even the nearest part of Kansas.

    What about Wichita, Tulsa, Omaha?

    • Replies: @Rex Little

    What about Wichita, Tulsa, Omaha?
     
    I suppose those are possible. But they're all smaller than KC, and the latter two are farther from the nearest part of Kansas.

    When I used to watch the show, I had Metropolis pegged as St. Louis, until I looked at a map and realized that city is all the way on the other side of Missouri. (I lived in California at the time, and grew up on the East coast, so my knowledge of Midwest geography is spotty.)
  181. @prosa123
    The four killings were separate incidents - the homeless weren't together on a single corner, but were sleeping separately within a couple blocks of each other.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    In the article linked by Steve Sailer, I read:

    “The program, run by the nonprofit Center for Court Innovation, provides defendants with mental-health counseling, drug treatment, job training, and other services, its website says.”

    Unless the inmate, after having been set free, decides not to show up at the “Center For Court Innovation”. – It’s buy now, pay later social engineering at the cost of the four homeless persons in this case – and a fifth one, who suffered severe injuries.

  182. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    I am not in the business of second guessing coaches(***), but all my spidey senses were flaring when Kershaw was up in the bullpen.

    (*** comes from hearing people questioning Dean Smith. You learn to be like, uh, who the eff do you think you are???? )

    Well Dean Smith wasn’t really a great tactician or game coach. He was an amazing recruiter, but he probably did less with more talent than anyone.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Well, basketball coach Dean Smith of U of North Carolina DID win one NCAA championship with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins.
  183. @Hail

    Who or whom is denying " white men have about their place in society "
     
    Cf.:

    23 Writers With Messages For Straight White Male Publishing
     


    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/11/enhanced/webdr02/original-24300-1429113176-3.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/13/enhanced/webdr09/original-1734-1429117439-11.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/11/enhanced/webdr04/original-1550-1429112515-28.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/12/enhanced/webdr10/original-18755-1429114336-3.jpg

    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-04/15/12/enhanced/webdr14/original-18759-1429113700-26.jpg

    – “Let us abolish you.”

    – “We don’t need you.”

    – ” Take a vacation.”

    …say those taking full advantage of the technologies and institutions created by straight, white men.

    (Those women and people of color wanting to displace straight white men must begin showing their true commitment to their cause by refusing to use technologies and institutions developed by straight white men. No electricity, no electronics, no cars, trains or planes. No antibiotics, no sterile surgery, no refrigeration, no supermarkets, no public schools or academies, no calculus, no chemistry, no formal logic …)

    That will really show those awful straight white men!

  184. @PiltdownMan

    The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies have shown.
     
    "... Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 ..."

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside. In point of fact, homeless white guys in the Bowery in 1981 were utterly invisible, just as black guys were, as anyone who has memories of New York City from that time can attest.

    Many, if not most, of the op-eds in the New York Times and Washington Post are characterized by their mendacity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/2019/10/04/down-out-new-york-citys-bowery-s/?nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader&outputType=accessibility

    The joker was influenced by a silent film from 1928, called “the man who laughs “

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    I didn't know that, or about the earlier movie. But now that you mention it, I remember that when I was a little kid, about four or five, PiltdownBrother2, a teenager, used to scare me by showing me pictures from this Classics Illustrated comic book version.

    https://archive.org/details/ClassicsIllustrated071TheManWhoLaughs

    http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/9781620281130_p0_v2_s260x420.JPG
    , @PiltdownMan
    I didn't know that, or about the earlier movie. But now that you mention it, I remember that when I was a little kid, about four or five, PiltdownBrother2, a teenager, used to scare me by showing me pictures from this Classics Illustrated comic book version.

    https://archive.org/details/ClassicsIllustrated071TheManWhoLaughs

    http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/9781620281130_p0_v2_s260x420.JPG
    , @Lurker
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0019130/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
  185. @Polynikes
    Well Dean Smith wasn’t really a great tactician or game coach. He was an amazing recruiter, but he probably did less with more talent than anyone.

    Well, basketball coach Dean Smith of U of North Carolina DID win one NCAA championship with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    He won a 2nd in 93 (Chris Webber timeout)
  186. The joker was influenced by a silent film in 1982 called the man who laughs.

  187. @Reg Cæsar
    Across the river from Gotham City is New Guernsey. At least in the TV edition. If that isn't a clue...

    I had always assumed "Gotham" was an architectural reference, but, no, it comes from this place:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham,_Nottinghamshire

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wise_Men_of_Gotham


    Detail is gone into here:


    https://pictures.abebooks.com/TULA3/18296889958.jpg


    There are a bunch of such Gothamite tales:

    https://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/2005/5/29
    http://pitt.edu/~dash/type1287.html#gotham
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Wise-Men-of-Gotham

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y3WNNo06WC0/W9IOKS9Bp1I/AAAAAAAAAbQ/A7DQX8kjeaUHvM3iXofZAZb6v31W-P-vgCLcBGAs/s1600/wise-men-of-gotham.jpg

    Washington Irving is said to have started the nickname “Gotham” for New York in 1807.

  188. @Lurker
    I always assumed Gotham was NYC and Metropolis was LA.

    The Superman creators were kids from Cleveland, so the cover illustration of the fine fictionalized version of their story, The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, shows that wild 1930ish skyscraper in Cleveland.

    But, generally, Metropolis is more or less New York, as is Gotham City.

    Christopher Nolan, from Evanston, got some mileage out of using Chicago for his first two Batman movies, then Pittsburgh, both of which have impressive skylines less familiar than Manhattan’s.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    Thanks. I should admit I have rarely looked at any of these comics. In fact I've only bought one Batman incarnation - the Frank Miller reboot in the 1980s.
  189. @William Badwhite
    That pitch was destroyed - statcast (for what its worth) said it went 449 feet. As soon as the camera cut to watch the flight, the first thing I noticed was Bellinger and whoever was in RF just standing there watching it.

    Reminded me of St. Louis slugger Jack Clark’s blast in 1985 that kept the Dodgers out of the World Series. Somebody asked the poor Dodger relief pitcher if he ever had any hope that it wouldn’t leave the ballpark?

    “Yeah … uh, sure … if it hit the Goodyear Blimp and dropped straight down.”

  190. @William Badwhite
    The Nationals were 19-31 in May. Since then they've been one of the best teams in baseball (top 2-3 record, something like that). Also only the Dodgers scored more runs in the regular season. Strasburg, Scherzer, Corbin, Rendon, Soto, Howie Kendrick - the Nationals are loaded.

    Dodgers had a great season. Its not like they lost to the Marlins.

    Yeah, they sounded like trouble. The Dodgers have an amazing amount of depth but in a short series that matters less.

  191. @William Badwhite
    That pitch was destroyed - statcast (for what its worth) said it went 449 feet. As soon as the camera cut to watch the flight, the first thing I noticed was Bellinger and whoever was in RF just standing there watching it.

    Yeah, it’s depressing when your outfielders don’t even move.

    When I was a high school pitcher back in the day, I gave up only one home run in two seaons of varsity ball. Unfortunately, it was a no-doubter just like the Soto job. I remember my left fielder, who’s still a good friend of mine, standing stock still watching it fly, then turning to stare at me even before it seemed like the ball had landed. Not a good day.

    What’s got to be especially frustrating for Kershaw is the home run he gave up to Rendon first. I don’t know if Kershaw threw a weak fastball or a slider for that one; his problem is that he’s lost velocity on his fastball, badly, but for some odd reason his slider hasn’t lost any speed at all, so now the pitches come in at the same speed. Anyway, Rendon didn’t hit it all that hard, but it carried and carried and barely made it out. In the past, i.e. before the introduction of this year’s Very Special Baseball, that’s a fairly routine fly out to warning track.

    For a flyball pitcher — actually, for any MLB pitcher — the likelihood of giving up this kind of ‘cheap’ home run has to get into your head.

  192. @Jack D
    The best explanation I have seen is "Metropolis is New York in the daytime; Gotham City is New York at night."

    That is good.

  193. @Clifford Brown
    In fairness, The Times published a surprisingly balanced commentary this weekend that criticized the over the top hot takes approach to Joker.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/magazine/the-joker-movie.html

    Wow. It’s like someone managed to slip in some real journalism into the NYT.

  194. @Steve Sailer
    Well, basketball coach Dean Smith of U of North Carolina DID win one NCAA championship with Michael Jordan, James Worthy, and Sam Perkins.

    He won a 2nd in 93 (Chris Webber timeout)

  195. You all will be thrilled to know that there is a new movie coming out about Mr. Rogers starring Tom Hanks.

  196. @Chris from Gresham (though not for long)
    Nick, my son, went to the 7:00 PM Thursday showing at a suburban cineplex, and he said the audience was at least 60% Mexican. Our burb is only about 10% Mexican.

    Well, what sort of people did you expect to see at a movie for children?

  197. @BB753
    Hey, they might end up banning clowns in whiteface! And mimes too!

    That would be a decision typical of our *auguste* elites.

  198. @South Texas Guy

    I don’t understand the assumption that only white males are interested in Batman universe movies. These are immensely valuable properties because huge numbers of people show up to see them, which suggests they have broad appeal across racial lines.
     
    I remember when I was 21 I had a job at a convenience store and this black radical would come in (wore a T-shirt that said 'Jesus was a Black Man!) and get the latest issue of The Savage Sword of Conan right before the run came to an end (perhaps the most un PC book BC it didn't shy away from depicting blacks as savages). I used to be a fan and once told him so, and that I thought the artwork had slipped in recent years. He agreed, even naming some of the artists that had worked on the magazine, and even a few I didn't remember.

    But I wonder what minority, esp. black, readership of comic books was, say, 20 or more years ago before the biz fell into the crapper. On a really good election year, a Republican will get almost 10 percent of the black vote, and that's a trivial number, but is that percentage still a trivial number when it comes to a mass produced item? Or then again, maybe the blacks that were into comic books wanted to read about white super heroes, which would explain why most of the 70s and 80s black super heroes were relegated to team comics after initial runs in their own books.

    Blacks privately love White Culture and White people, and are in fact, obsessed with White people. What whites do, don’t do, think, don’t think…how whites sing, dance, make music, make love, go to war, fight, eat, drink, and go to the bathroom. They are also obsessed with white skin, light colored eyes and white beauty. The love watching shows about Vikings, the Celts, invasions, war, Greece, Rome, British Royalty, Colonial America and WW2. They do so privately, via various outlets, although you rarely find them at a museum or national park.

    No matter how worded, how contorted or crafted, when you have been around a lot of blacks over a long period of time, you realize how they just cannot stop talking about white people. That’s a fact.

  199. @Mireya martinez
    The joker was influenced by a silent film from 1928, called “the man who laughs “

    I didn’t know that, or about the earlier movie. But now that you mention it, I remember that when I was a little kid, about four or five, PiltdownBrother2, a teenager, used to scare me by showing me pictures from this Classics Illustrated comic book version.

    https://archive.org/details/ClassicsIllustrated071TheManWhoLaughs

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I remember Classics Illustrated comic books. I read a bunch of them. They were kind of like a 10 year old's Cliffs Notes.

    2) Saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood today. Very funny. It was 2 hours 43 minutes but never lagged. Pitt and Di Caprio were excellent without turning it into a buddy movie.
  200. @Reg Cæsar
    I prefer my white supremacy checked.


    https://scotweb-objects.com/images/thumbnailer/112x182/tartanmill/swhdr/the-balmoral-kilt-traditional-8-yard-kilt-with-flashes/tartanmill-the-balmoral-kilt-traditional-8-yard-kilt-with-flashes-1.jpg

    https://cdn.royalandawesome.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/r/p/rpad_1.1555329835.jpg

    https://assets.scotlandshop.com/assets.scotlandshop.com/products/206_3.jpg?mtime=20180723100641

    https://www.tomjames.com/pics/catalog/2016SP//large/Formal-049.jpg

    pants, just not pants.

  201. @Mireya martinez
    The joker was influenced by a silent film from 1928, called “the man who laughs “

    I didn’t know that, or about the earlier movie. But now that you mention it, I remember that when I was a little kid, about four or five, PiltdownBrother2, a teenager, used to scare me by showing me pictures from this Classics Illustrated comic book version.

    https://archive.org/details/ClassicsIllustrated071TheManWhoLaughs

  202. @PiltdownMan
    I didn't know that, or about the earlier movie. But now that you mention it, I remember that when I was a little kid, about four or five, PiltdownBrother2, a teenager, used to scare me by showing me pictures from this Classics Illustrated comic book version.

    https://archive.org/details/ClassicsIllustrated071TheManWhoLaughs

    http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/9781620281130_p0_v2_s260x420.JPG

    I remember Classics Illustrated comic books. I read a bunch of them. They were kind of like a 10 year old’s Cliffs Notes.

    2) Saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood today. Very funny. It was 2 hours 43 minutes but never lagged. Pitt and Di Caprio were excellent without turning it into a buddy movie.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    My uncle gave my my cousin's big collection of Classics Illustrated. I feel more confident in discussions of English literature because I can always say, "Yes, I've read David Copperfield," although I don't mention I read it in comic book form.
  203. @prosa123
    In the Smallville TV series, Smallville itself was in Kansas, and they often spoke of Metropolis as if it was nearby. So it pretty much would have to be Kansas City. Maybe Denver, but that’s over 3 hours away from even the nearest part of Kansas.

    What about Wichita, Tulsa, Omaha?

    What about Wichita, Tulsa, Omaha?

    I suppose those are possible. But they’re all smaller than KC, and the latter two are farther from the nearest part of Kansas.

    When I used to watch the show, I had Metropolis pegged as St. Louis, until I looked at a map and realized that city is all the way on the other side of Missouri. (I lived in California at the time, and grew up on the East coast, so my knowledge of Midwest geography is spotty.)

  204. @Jim Don Bob
    I remember Classics Illustrated comic books. I read a bunch of them. They were kind of like a 10 year old's Cliffs Notes.

    2) Saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood today. Very funny. It was 2 hours 43 minutes but never lagged. Pitt and Di Caprio were excellent without turning it into a buddy movie.

    My uncle gave my my cousin’s big collection of Classics Illustrated. I feel more confident in discussions of English literature because I can always say, “Yes, I’ve read David Copperfield,” although I don’t mention I read it in comic book form.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    I loved Classics Illustrated. Sometimes I read the original as well.
    , @Cromwellforever
    I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but Thomas Wayne looking a bit like a fat old Arthur was really good casting.
    , @Kylie
    No wonder you're not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren't really suited to comic book form.
  205. @The Last Real Calvinist
    I was just about to post OT on this as well.

    Kershaw comes in in relief with a 3-1 lead. He throws 6 pitches, and gets a strikeout -- and gives up two home runs. Well, he certainly managed to pack a lot of drama into his very very very brief appearance, I guess.

    His post-season reputation is swirling rapidly already; it'll be down the chute if the Dodgers don't pull this one out.

    Well, the Dodgers didn’t “pull this one out.” Kershaw has been a bust in the post-season but, nevertheless, will make the Hall I believe, based upon his body of work.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Kershaw has pitched almost 160 innings, about 3/4ths of a full season, in the postseason and his postseason ERA is 2 runs higher than his regular season ERA. That's pretty bad.
  206. ‘…white supremacy is left unchecked.’

    White supremacy’s been unchecked?

    Nobody ever tells me these things.

  207. @syonredux

    For it is essentially a depiction of what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked.
     
    What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?

    http://www.peconsultingcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chrysler-Building2.jpg


    http://runawayjuno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/paris-france-eiffel-tower.jpg

    https://designergirlee.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/new-palace-of-westminster.jpg


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a53s4jyCqqU

    ‘What does happen when White Supremacy is left unchecked?’

    Hey. Post pictures of what happens when black supremacy is left unchecked.

    Guid ‘n bluidy. Who wants to look at a bunch of pictures of buildings?

  208. @anon
    The Washington Nationals struck me as a really good team.

    Good enough to beat the Dodgers, that's for true.
    Walgreens is a good retail chain, too.

    https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/mlb/500/wsh.png

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875789275668918273/7l9RDOnl_400x400.jpg

    I’m surprised no one else picked up on the similarity between the two logos. And that Walmart hasn’t bitched about it.

  209. @Jack D
    It's not some great conspiracy to make white people look bad, it has to do with how people process statistical information. For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes. But most people are more afraid of getting on a jet than they are of driving to the airport. And a jet crash where 100 people die is going to make the front page of the newspaper while the 80 different fatal car crashes that occurred that same day scattered across the country are not.


    Likewise, people (who are mostly black males living in the ghetto and not like you anyway) getting shot 1 or 2 at a time (even if it add up to thousands over the course of a year) is processed differently and handled by the media differently than 1 mass shooter killing 58 people and wounding hundreds all at once and this has nothing to do with racism or anti-whitism.

    For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes.

    If you took the mortality rate of air vs car travel as a % of trips taken, I suspect the numbers would greatly favor cars. Imagine that instead of driving to the grocery store, we flew there, just like the Jetsons.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I don't think so. Aside from the one lady who got sucked out the window last year, I don't think ANYONE has been killed on a US carrier big jet since 2001 or so.
  210. (N)obody seems to have asked whether this 24-year-old maniac was influenced in some way by the movie that had just opened after a $120 million marketing campaign.

    Why not?

    Oh, because the killer is a black Dominican immigrant. So, never mind …

    Clearly you weren’t paying attention 30-odd years ago, when the nation thrilled to Robocop’s violent exploits helping incorruptible black & female cops fight depraved dope-pushing white street-gangs in a future Detroit even more hellish than the present midwestern wasteland.

    Ever since then, it’s been Teens Ahoy!……except on movie and television screens, where it never is.

  211. @Steve Sailer
    My uncle gave my my cousin's big collection of Classics Illustrated. I feel more confident in discussions of English literature because I can always say, "Yes, I've read David Copperfield," although I don't mention I read it in comic book form.

    I loved Classics Illustrated. Sometimes I read the original as well.

  212. @Prester John
    Well, the Dodgers didn't "pull this one out." Kershaw has been a bust in the post-season but, nevertheless, will make the Hall I believe, based upon his body of work.

    Kershaw has pitched almost 160 innings, about 3/4ths of a full season, in the postseason and his postseason ERA is 2 runs higher than his regular season ERA. That’s pretty bad.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    Right, and if you take a look at his postseason numbers, it's pretty obvious what his problem is: home runs.

    His other numbers -- i.e. WHIP, strikeout rate, etc. -- are all still very good. But he's given up 24 home runs in those 160 innings, which pro-rates out to about 34 over a typical 225 inning season.

    In his best years (sticking with the regular seasons only) Kershaw was really, really good at avoiding home runs. For example, in 2014 he pitched just about 200 regular season innings, and gave up only 9 home runs.

    But he can't keep the ball in the park in the playoffs, and it's killing him and the Dodgers.
  213. @Reg Cæsar

    OT; For the love of confetti, Mr. Sailer: Are you never going to write an insightful elegy about superstar Rip Taylor!?
     
    CNN: RT "is dead at 84"
    Washington Post: RT "dies at 88"
    Who ya gonna believe?

    Rip Taylor and Rip Torn were born the same year and died the same year. One was an Elmer and one an Elmore.

    It's like their only purpose in life was to confuse us.

    Rip Torn was a significant figure: Although he appeared in an ungodly number of shlock productions which are not even remembered by those who appeared in them, he was integral to the success of one of the funniest sitcoms of all time, The Larry Sanders Show, and he once tried to kill (alas, unsuccessfully) Norman Mailer, while shooting a movie together.

  214. @Jack D
    It's not some great conspiracy to make white people look bad, it has to do with how people process statistical information. For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes. But most people are more afraid of getting on a jet than they are of driving to the airport. And a jet crash where 100 people die is going to make the front page of the newspaper while the 80 different fatal car crashes that occurred that same day scattered across the country are not.


    Likewise, people (who are mostly black males living in the ghetto and not like you anyway) getting shot 1 or 2 at a time (even if it add up to thousands over the course of a year) is processed differently and handled by the media differently than 1 mass shooter killing 58 people and wounding hundreds all at once and this has nothing to do with racism or anti-whitism.

    You’re kidding, right? You sound like the people who look at an obviously racially motivated atrocity, like say, the Knoxville Horror, and immediately proclaim, “The motivation was robbery. Race had nothing to do with it.”

    I no longer try and change such people’s minds.

  215. @Johann Ricke

    For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes.
     
    If you took the mortality rate of air vs car travel as a % of trips taken, I suspect the numbers would greatly favor cars. Imagine that instead of driving to the grocery store, we flew there, just like the Jetsons.

    I don’t think so. Aside from the one lady who got sucked out the window last year, I don’t think ANYONE has been killed on a US carrier big jet since 2001 or so.

  216. @Steve Sailer
    Kershaw has pitched almost 160 innings, about 3/4ths of a full season, in the postseason and his postseason ERA is 2 runs higher than his regular season ERA. That's pretty bad.

    Right, and if you take a look at his postseason numbers, it’s pretty obvious what his problem is: home runs.

    His other numbers — i.e. WHIP, strikeout rate, etc. — are all still very good. But he’s given up 24 home runs in those 160 innings, which pro-rates out to about 34 over a typical 225 inning season.

    In his best years (sticking with the regular seasons only) Kershaw was really, really good at avoiding home runs. For example, in 2014 he pitched just about 200 regular season innings, and gave up only 9 home runs.

    But he can’t keep the ball in the park in the playoffs, and it’s killing him and the Dodgers.

  217. @Steve Sailer
    My uncle gave my my cousin's big collection of Classics Illustrated. I feel more confident in discussions of English literature because I can always say, "Yes, I've read David Copperfield," although I don't mention I read it in comic book form.

    I don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but Thomas Wayne looking a bit like a fat old Arthur was really good casting.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I thought the Thomas Wayne actor looked too much like Alec Baldwin. I was distracted by asking myself: "Is that Alec Baldwin? If it is, he's gotten puffier. Maybe Baldwin went to Rene Zellwegger's plastic surgeon?"
  218. @Cromwellforever
    I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but Thomas Wayne looking a bit like a fat old Arthur was really good casting.

    I thought the Thomas Wayne actor looked too much like Alec Baldwin. I was distracted by asking myself: “Is that Alec Baldwin? If it is, he’s gotten puffier. Maybe Baldwin went to Rene Zellwegger’s plastic surgeon?”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I think the role was originally supposed to go to Baldwin but then Baldwin became associated with Trump because of his SNL appearances so it became a little too obvious that Thomas Wayne was supposed to be a Trumpian figure.
  219. @Bardon Kaldian
    I am not talking about "The Last Days of Disco" (which is something like a cult movie - https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-last-days-of-disco-1998). Just referring to a comical analysis of "Lady and the Tramp", which gives us layers of meanings similar to those read into "Joker"- which is, actually, surreal.
    ------
    Stillman listens to how people talk, and knows what it reveals about them. His characters have been supplied by their Ivy League schools with the techniques but not the subjects of intelligent conversation, and so they discuss "The Lady and the Tramp" with the kind of self-congratulatory earnestness that French students would reserve for Marx and Freud.

    I see.

  220. @Oleaginous Outrager
    What the actual fuck is "sodomania"? Part of the Caught From Behind series?

    Sodomania is a small principality close by, and allied to, Wakanda.

  221. @Jack D
    The Batman and Superman characters have been going since the 1930s in various forms - comics, radio, TV, movies and there is very little consistency between the various media or even within the same medium as storylines peter out and it is necessary to "reboot" the characters and settings. So Gotham and Metropolis have been literally all over the map - sometimes they are twin cities across a bay, sometimes Bruce Wayne has to fly from one to the other on his jet. But generally speaking they (even Metropolis which is a sunnier place than dark and brooding Gotham) are depicted as being more "urban" and "east coast" looking than LA and lacking in palm trees, etc. Downtown LA in the '30s had a small skyscraper core but nothing compared to NY or Chicago and nothing like the skyline of Metropolis. Metropolis is also often depicted as sitting on a waterfront or lakefront ala Toronto or Chicago whereas downtown LA is (unusually) well away from any large body of water (unless you count the trickle of the LA River which actually explains its original placement in the semi-desert that Southern California once was). So of all the places that Metropolis might be, LA is not usually one of them.

    OK thanks, also I suppose LA looms larger these days, but perhaps less so when these comics were new.

  222. @Steve Sailer
    The Superman creators were kids from Cleveland, so the cover illustration of the fine fictionalized version of their story, The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, shows that wild 1930ish skyscraper in Cleveland.

    But, generally, Metropolis is more or less New York, as is Gotham City.

    Christopher Nolan, from Evanston, got some mileage out of using Chicago for his first two Batman movies, then Pittsburgh, both of which have impressive skylines less familiar than Manhattan's.

    Thanks. I should admit I have rarely looked at any of these comics. In fact I’ve only bought one Batman incarnation – the Frank Miller reboot in the 1980s.

  223. @Mireya martinez
    The joker was influenced by a silent film from 1928, called “the man who laughs “
  224. @J.Ross
    Of course not. Muslim violence is just something you'll have to get used to.

    Or, as John Kerry said, we can work to make it nothing more than a mere “nuisance.”

  225. @eah
    Also by Lawrence Ware:

    How to Survive, Be Safe and Thrive at a Predominantly White Institution


    I experienced many firsts when I left home for college. First car, first full-time job, first time being racially profiled and first time being called n—ger. Life comes at you fast if you’re black at a predominantly white institution.

    No one prepared me for the multiple assaults on my humanity that I experienced at a PWI.
     

    The interesting question here is this: how did he, and how do others like him, get a platform in the NYT? -- what is the decision-making process there? -- are they rated on a scale of anti-whiteness/how many unverifiable anti-white anecdotes are in their writing? -- and it's not just the NYT: do a search to see where else he's been published.

    I wish someone had prepared me for the racism I would experience during my first year of college. I was able to survive and thrive, but it was not without emotional labor.

    LOL

    He’s a soldier at war; a spy behind enemy lines. All of us should nurture such a martial mentality.

  226. @Jack D
    It's not some great conspiracy to make white people look bad, it has to do with how people process statistical information. For example, almost no one is killed in crashes of scheduled US flagged full size airliners anymore, while over 100 people are killed EVERY SINGLE DAY in car crashes. But most people are more afraid of getting on a jet than they are of driving to the airport. And a jet crash where 100 people die is going to make the front page of the newspaper while the 80 different fatal car crashes that occurred that same day scattered across the country are not.


    Likewise, people (who are mostly black males living in the ghetto and not like you anyway) getting shot 1 or 2 at a time (even if it add up to thousands over the course of a year) is processed differently and handled by the media differently than 1 mass shooter killing 58 people and wounding hundreds all at once and this has nothing to do with racism or anti-whitism.

    It’s not some great conspiracy to make white people look bad, it has to do with how people process statistical information.

    I see your point, but there is still quite a bit of bias in reporting crime differences.

  227. anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    It seems to be open season on “whiteness”. Gotta divert that POC attention away from those high rents, gentrification, and public school segregation where important people live and back to flyover whitey elsewhere. Here’s an article from the NYT back in August:

    “White Filmmakers Addressing (or Avoiding) Whiteness Onscreen. Movies as different as “The Nightingale,” “Midsommar” and “The Last Black Man in San Francisco” are all processing the legacy of privilege.

    “A few years ago, on their wildly popular podcast “Bodega Boys,” the comedians Desus Nice and Kid Mero coined the term “caucacity,” which was essentially a portmanteau of Caucasian and audacity. They employed it to marvel at the baffling behaviors of white folks, like a predilection for pumpkin spice anything. Over time, it became widely used internet shorthand for the ways in which white entitlement, flagrant displays of privilege and exceptions that eluded other groups weave their way through our society.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/movies/white-privilege-nightingale-midsommar.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

    Caucacity. Lol. Has anyone checked the ADL banned words list to see if caucasity is on it?

  228. anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    Now that we are on the subject of race and media, I thought perhaps you’d be amused to find out what your old friend Genius T. Coates is up to these days: he’s been writing a Captain America comic book for the last several months; the entire series revolves around his paranoid racism of whites, and he thinks he’s being sly about it. A good writer he is not.

    Synopsis:

    Coates portrays his characters as oppressed POC fighting “the man” (whitey) when they are, in fact, “the man” themselves. Coates accomplishes this feat of mental gymnastics in his Captain America run through Hydra, a veiled reference to neo-Nazis, having taken over the country (Trump). Steve Rodgers and his POC friends fight back against the man and his many, many, maaannny confederate flags — of which Coates incongruously stuffs into countless scenes.

    In several issues of this series, Coats vicariously lives out his fantasies of racial revenge against “the man” through America’s favorite white male superhero, Steve Rogers – popularly known by his superhero identity as Captain America. Let’s examine a short list of what your kids are being forced to read these days*:

    [MORE]

    Issue #14

    This issue revolves around Captain America and a sexy POC woman assaulting white men in an Iowa bar – one that just so happens to bizarrely feature a confederate flag … in Iowa. Yes, you read that correctly. Your eyes are fine. Oh, and if you look closely at one of the panels, there are TWO different confederate flags in this scene, back-to-back – the national flag AND the battle flag. Iowa. Sly. Right. This kind of historical contradiction isn’t new for Coates. He once wrote an X-Men comic book were he portrayed a heavily gentrified modern Harlem as overwhelmingly poor and black and policed by racist robot cops. I certainly don’t recall the first part at least. Brainfog, maybe?

    Just before the violence starts, the female POC character claims “times are changing.” Then another description states that there “used to be an order of things” (POC being in their place). It’s an underhanded reference justifying the female POC character’s later violence against her white male detractors. Specifically, it’s a version of the left’s “always punch Nazis” rhetoric. It’s a justification for violence. Sly. Then the action really starts. Captain America and his friend attack – literally – the white men in the bar (at least one of them is blond, of course) and then later insult them as incels while crowing about generic girl power. Rogers then claims he knew guys like this in the war, haters who didn’t care about death camps and who wouldn’t stand up for the Jews**.

    Lol, exactly those kinds of guys whom he assaulted in that bar fought in and won that war. My head hurts. I’m tempted to recall an old John Derbyshire column where he refers to Coates as a blathering imbecile (or some other equally fitting pejorative) and implies he’d be better off digging ditches.

    And the mysterious bad guys they’re hunting down in this story? Yeah, they’re confederate flag wielding masked gunmen, too. Confederate flags everywhere.

    Other dialogue gems from this masterpiece …

    Steve Rodgers, Captain America:

    “Losers who dream of shooting up a school.”

    As opposed to Coates daydreaming about beating up his old high school tormentors.

    “Deaf Injun chick … who fights like a girl.”

    After she beats up a bunch of white men. You go girl, slay. Could totally happen in real life.

    Steve Rodgers, Captain America:

    “…because the head cheerleader never went behind the bleachers with them.”

    Sure buddy. Guys in comic books like yourself got all the girls in high school.

    Steve Rodgers, Captain America:

    “Man-babies who never made it to state.”

    You’re the one writing comic books for a living, guy.

    *Well, not quite. Comic book sales are in the toilet. It’s almost as if the predominantly white male consumer doesn’t want to buy this stuff or something. Disney is now outsourcing Star Wars to the Japanese because they can’t rely on their own NYC-based operation to not screw it up with bad art and racist, unpopular story lines.

    **The Captain America character specifically says, “Jackasses who didn’t care one hoot about the death camps or massacres or Jews. They just want somebody to beat on.” Hey. Guy. That wasn’t common knowledge at the time. Even years after for most people. There’s a ditch over here that needs to be dug. Writing. You’re not good at it.

    https://comics.gocollect.com/guide/view/1021156

    Issue #13

    From Polygon (a leftist videogame publication):

    “… you’ve got Steve Rogers defending undocumented migrant workers along the United States’ southern border* by beating the crap out of a Confederate flag-wearing local militia — all as part of an attempt to rehabilitate his image after the whole Hydra thing.”

    https://www.polygon.com/comics/2019/9/3/20847404/captain-america-marvel-comics-illegal-migrants-black-panther-doctor-strange

    https://comics.gocollect.com/guide/view/1019216

    The Hydra thing was when the previous writer got mad that Donald Trump won the election and took it out on white male Captain America by claiming he was ALWAYS a secret Nazi. It didn’t go over well with customers. It’s also kinda funny how literally every bad guy in this guy’s warped reality has a confederate flag on them – at the Mexican border, in Iowa, the Rust Belt, probably more if I looked. Really, they’re not that common, Neil. How’s that ditch coming?

    *This seems to be a common trope nowadays for some reason. In the latest Jack Reacher movie, the screenwriter added a scene that wasn’t in the book: white male Tom Cruise defends illegal aliens from racist white hick cops. The deepstate really must not want any white male heroes standing up for their own people.

    Issue #15

    This is an upcoming title. Let’s see if we can guess what it’s about from the description.

    “’THE LEGEND OF STEVE’ CONTINUES! Steve Rogers’ mission to clear his reputation and to re-establish the good name of Captain America continues, as he and Jessica Drew, Spider-Woman, tackle a familiar old foe who is contaminating the water supply of a large rust-belt city!”

    Yup, I’m sure you guessed it. This is a reference to Flint, Michigan’s water troubles. Specifically, it’s an allusion to the old black conspiracy theory of the government spreading AIDs around through contaminating vending machines. The “familiar old foe” is a group of racists who wear confederate flag masks and are described as Jew-hating / woman-hating incels. And I’m not exaggerating. The villains are gunmen who wear confederate flag masks. Literally. They’re also an allusion to white male mass shooters, even though most mass shooters are not white. Normal people might ask what role this Rust Belt city had in letting its water supply deteriorate, but Coats and cadre just use it as an excuse to blame whitey.

    https://comics.gocollect.com/guide/view/1022479

  229. @Anonymous
    I never implied that you should see films they love or that every film is some sort of trick. It's apparent by the level of hyperbole what media they're promoting for this purpose. There have been many examples of this since Trump's election in all forms of media.

    SJW outrage is a marketing tool of elites to promote empire friendly beliefs in opposition to things like closing the border or having a normal nation not an empire. They're also beliefs Trump has promoted by going out of his way to prove he's not racist because white racial consciousness is a threat to the empire far greater than "race doesn't matter" or "legal not illegal immigration is good" beliefs which maintain domestic stability in an increasingly diverse society.

    There was an elevation in white racial awareness leading up to Trump's election and the over the top media rhetoric post-election is realigning the overton window back into the "common sense" beliefs of neo-conservatism or neo-liberalism pick your poison. People are longing for the old status quo because of the threat of open borders and the open media attacks on white people.

    People are longing for the old status quo because of the threat of open borders and the open media attacks on white people.

    Why do you say that? From what I’ve seen, people are still holding firm in their beliefs.

  230. anon[408] • Disclaimer says:

    “New York Times critics keep trying to come up with arguments about why Joker is NOT interesting.”

    Could it not be more obvious that the NYT is government-controlled propaganda? They lied about Iraq, they attack the economic policies opposed by the ruling class, and now they lead a coordinated effort across the media against a movie the government deems subversive. Similarly, The Guardian, the same government-controlled outfit exposed by Glenn Greenwald for publishing fake propaganda about Julian Assange, tried to divert attention away from The Joker by encouraging people to see a movie called Cuck, a bigoted portrayal of white men.

    It’s just so obvious:

  231. @Jack D
    The best explanation I have seen is "Metropolis is New York in the daytime; Gotham City is New York at night."

    In the early comics, Gotham was more like Chicago, with its mobsters and kingpins. Where did they draw the inspiration for Arkham asylum? Was there a similar institution in either New York or Chicago?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Arkham only comes into the Batman story line in the 1970s and was not part of the original storyline. I guess it is something like Bellevue Hospital which was NYC's public insane asylum.

    https://www.scoutingny.com/the-creepiest-hospital-in-manhattan-arkham-asylum-in-nyc/
  232. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Lawrence Ware:

    https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/lawrencewareosu.jpg?quality=99&strip=all&strip=all

    Objectivity Illustrated.

    I wonder if Black hubris can be explained by Reverse Body Dysmorphia, only expanded to include cognitive abilities (inverted of course) morality (most certainly inverted) and reality (most certainly inverted). I would say the afflicted suffer from Reverse body, cognitive, morality, and reality disorder: the aforementioned malady explaining why an otherwise homely, hypocritical mediocrity can bestride the world like a colossus. Reality would be the only cure and readily available were it not for the perfidy of the nose.

  233. @Bardon Kaldian
    I am not talking about "The Last Days of Disco" (which is something like a cult movie - https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-last-days-of-disco-1998). Just referring to a comical analysis of "Lady and the Tramp", which gives us layers of meanings similar to those read into "Joker"- which is, actually, surreal.
    ------
    Stillman listens to how people talk, and knows what it reveals about them. His characters have been supplied by their Ivy League schools with the techniques but not the subjects of intelligent conversation, and so they discuss "The Lady and the Tramp" with the kind of self-congratulatory earnestness that French students would reserve for Marx and Freud.

    Joke’s on you. The French discuss Jerry Lewis movies with the same degree of seriousness.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    Because they've become Germans' epigones. No "real" German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)

    A commentator obwa...(whatever), who is a person of color, summed -never mind his anti-white ramblings - it perfectly:


    Absolute proof that you guys are complete douchebags.

    I mean, Batman movies? Adults actually going to see Batman movies?

    And you all cry and moan about the decadence and infantilization of Western society.

    And then you go to Batman movies. And compare them to philosophers and Renaissance painters.

    You are complete, un-self-aware, childish braindead douchbags.
     
  234. @Steve Sailer
    I thought the Thomas Wayne actor looked too much like Alec Baldwin. I was distracted by asking myself: "Is that Alec Baldwin? If it is, he's gotten puffier. Maybe Baldwin went to Rene Zellwegger's plastic surgeon?"

    I think the role was originally supposed to go to Baldwin but then Baldwin became associated with Trump because of his SNL appearances so it became a little too obvious that Thomas Wayne was supposed to be a Trumpian figure.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  235. @Jack D
    The Batman and Superman characters have been going since the 1930s in various forms - comics, radio, TV, movies and there is very little consistency between the various media or even within the same medium as storylines peter out and it is necessary to "reboot" the characters and settings. So Gotham and Metropolis have been literally all over the map - sometimes they are twin cities across a bay, sometimes Bruce Wayne has to fly from one to the other on his jet. But generally speaking they (even Metropolis which is a sunnier place than dark and brooding Gotham) are depicted as being more "urban" and "east coast" looking than LA and lacking in palm trees, etc. Downtown LA in the '30s had a small skyscraper core but nothing compared to NY or Chicago and nothing like the skyline of Metropolis. Metropolis is also often depicted as sitting on a waterfront or lakefront ala Toronto or Chicago whereas downtown LA is (unusually) well away from any large body of water (unless you count the trickle of the LA River which actually explains its original placement in the semi-desert that Southern California once was). So of all the places that Metropolis might be, LA is not usually one of them.

    But what about Star City and Coast City? No love for them?

  236. @Anonymouse
    All the bums passed out in doorways of the Bowery when I first saw them as a teenager circa 1948 were white.

    The black bums were all up in Harlem. In those days, even Skid Row was segregated, that’s how racist America was.

    I feel as if the character of the bum has disappeared, replaced by “the homeless”. In those days, real estate in NY was cheap enough that even bums could afford to stay in flophouses and not sleep outdoors except in nice weather. Bums were mostly just alcoholics whereas the homeless are usually mentally ill and/or drug addicts.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Bums were mostly just alcoholics whereas the homeless are usually mentally ill and/or drug addicts.
     
    Yeah, I drove a cab in NYC around 1970 and the garage was on 125th Street and Broadway. There were a couple of bums who hung around the area (IIRC they slept under the West Side Highway). I would talk to them from time to time and it was no problem. They were just drunks who liked being bums.
  237. @Chris from Gresham (though not for long)
    Nick, my son, went to the 7:00 PM Thursday showing at a suburban cineplex, and he said the audience was at least 60% Mexican. Our burb is only about 10% Mexican.

    That’s interesting as our host has been noting for over a decade that people most will to pay to see movies in the cinema are Hispanics, far above their proportion of the population. The trends seems to continue.

  238. @PhysicistDave
    PiltdownMan wrote:

    “… Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 …”

    How easy it is to turn a purely fictional setting into reality with a little parenthetical aside.
     
    "Gotham" is a very longstanding nickname for NYC:

    As nickname for New York City, first used 1807 by Washington Irving in his Salmagundi Papers.
     
    I was very prooud of myself as a grade-school kid when I figured out that Batman lived in NYC!

    Superman's Metropolis is more problematic: apparently a mishmash of NYC, Cleveland, and Toronto (!). As a kid back in the '60s, my guess had been Chicago (I remember one reference to a big lake nearby), but I was always uncertain.

    Apparently the use of back alleys which are common in Chicago but rare in New York and where Batman does most of his beating up of hoods is evidence that the creators of Gotham were referencing the Windy City more than the Big Apple back when they created the city.

    From what I understand it’s kind of an alternate geographical history anyway, Gotham is supposedly in New Jersey and Superman’s Metropolis is in Delaware, neither of which have New York or Chicago sized cities in our world. Of course Gotham is a long standing nickname for New York, but the association that people had with organized crime and Chicago in 1930’s ( When Batman was developed ) have lead some to think it is Chicago with the New York nickname.

  239. @Jack D
    Joke's on you. The French discuss Jerry Lewis movies with the same degree of seriousness.

    Because they’ve become Germans’ epigones. No “real” German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)

    A commentator obwa…(whatever), who is a person of color, summed -never mind his anti-white ramblings – it perfectly:

    Absolute proof that you guys are complete douchebags.

    I mean, Batman movies? Adults actually going to see Batman movies?

    And you all cry and moan about the decadence and infantilization of Western society.

    And then you go to Batman movies. And compare them to philosophers and Renaissance painters.

    You are complete, un-self-aware, childish braindead douchbags.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    No “real” German or Russian
     
    Is that like a "true Scotsman"?
    , @syonredux

    No “real” German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons

     

    Dunno.....


    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v1w97lCLD28/VGP2ROsVIuI/AAAAAAAAaJw/xABdwi8pmME/s1600/02.jpg

    http://jessnevins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/captainmors.png

    (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)
     
    Dunno. Seems to me that the French were the ones who pioneered the whole "let's-take-pop-culture-seriously" business.....
    , @Alden
    The high IQ Japanese have a major comic and anime industry as well as graphic novels. Only difference between comics and graphic novels is length and hard covers.

    Batman’s like King Arthur Star Wars Tom Sawyer and the myths and boy hero fairy tales.
    It’s a dark tale of revenge on all criminals for the death of his parents killed in front of him when he was 5.

    The comics were just comics. The TV show had a lot of humor and was suitable for5& 6 year olds. The movies are dark almost horror stories for adults. Batman movies are top ticket sellers all over the world. Not just us dumb TV watching retard White trash live then and buy tickets. That’s the test isn’t it how many tickets are sold.
  240. @Steve Sailer
    My uncle gave my my cousin's big collection of Classics Illustrated. I feel more confident in discussions of English literature because I can always say, "Yes, I've read David Copperfield," although I don't mention I read it in comic book form.

    No wonder you’re not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren’t really suited to comic book form.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    No wonder you’re not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren’t really suited to comic book form.
     
    I would love to see a Classic Comics version of The Ambassadors.....
    , @syonredux

    No wonder you’re not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren’t really suited to comic book form.

    I would love to see a Classic Comics version of The Ambassadors…..
     
    Extra points if one of the chapters is out of order.
  241. @Nick Diaz
    You forggot to mention colonialism, slavery, World War I and II, debt slavery to Western banks and the Nazi Holocaust.

    You forggot to mention colonialism,

    Been around since prehistoric times…

    slavery,

    Ditto

    World War I and II,

    Big wars have been around for a long time……..For example. the Mongol Conquests….

    Colin McEvedy, Atlas of World Population History (1978):
    China Proper: In the text, he states that the population declined by 35 million as the Mongols reduced the country to subjugation during the 13th Century. In the Chart, the population drops from 115M to 85M between 1200 and 1300 CE. (p.172)
    Iran: Charted population declined from 5.0M to 3.5M
    Afghanistan: from 2.50M to 1.75M
    Russia-in-Europe: 7.5M to 7M
    This indicates a total population decline of some 37.75 million.

    debt slavery to Western banks

    Now you’re just being anti-Semitic….

    and the Nazi Holocaust.

    Lotsa Holocausts to go around, dear boy….

    Here’s a couple of good ones.Turkish Genocide of the Armenians:

    1915-18 (generally included in the Death Tolls for World War One)
    Britannica: 600,000
    Dict.Wars: 600,000 died of starvation, disease and exhaustion
    Steven Katz in Is the Holocaust Unique? (Rosenbaum, ed.): 475,800 – 775,800
    Encarta: 800,000
    Kuper: 800,000
    Sabrina Tavernise, “Nearly a Million Genocide Victims, Covered in a Cloak of Amnesia”, New York Times, March 8, 2009. “According to a long-hidden document that belonged to the interior minister of the Ottoman Empire, 972,000 Ottoman Armenians disappeared from official population records from 1915 through 1916.” (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/world/europe/09turkey.html%5D
    Martin Gilbert, A History of the Twentieth Century: 1,000,000
    Eckhardt: 1,000,000 civ.
    Robert Melson in Is the Holocaust Unique?: 1,000,000
    Christopher Walker, Armenia : The Survival of a Nation (1980): 1,000,000 (in Turkey, 1915-16), plus an additional 50-100,000 (invasion of the Caucasus, 1918)
    Alan Palmer, The Decline & Fall of the Ottoman Empire (1992)
    Official Turkish est.: 300,000
    max. Armenian claims: 2M
    probable: >1,300,000 during war and aftermath
    Porter: 1,000,000 to 1,500,000
    Rummel: 1,404,000 domestic, 83,000 foreign
    War Annual 8 (1997): 1,500,000

    The Dzungar genocide was the mass extermination of the Mongol Buddhist Dzungar people, at the hands of the Manchu Qing dynasty of China.[2] The Qianlong Emperor ordered the genocide due to the rebellion in 1755 by Dzungar leader Amursana against Qing rule, after the dynasty first conquered the Dzungar Khanate with Amursana’s support. The genocide was perpetrated by Manchu generals of the Qing army sent to crush the Dzungars, supported by Uyghur allies and vassals due to the Uyghur revolt against Dzungar rule.

    The Dzungar Khanate was a confederation of several Tibetan Buddhist Oirat Mongol tribes that emerged in the early 17th century, and the last great nomadic empire in Asia. Some scholars estimate that about 80% of the Dzungar population, or around 500,000 to 800,000 people, were killed by a combination of warfare and disease during or after the Qing conquest in 1755–1757.[3][4] After wiping out the native population of Dzungaria, the Qing government then resettled Han, Hui, Uyghur, and Xibe people on state farms in Dzungaria along with Manchu Bannermen to repopulate the area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide

    • Replies: @Logan
    All quite true.

    However, you can't compare numbers of dead from the 20th century to numbers of dead from earlier periods. Clearly, you need to compare percentage of world dead. Or at least use both.
  242. @Logan
    How does one acquire such information?

    Have you really asked each of them, "Have you ever dated a black man?"

    Seems to me that asking the question would be, as they say, "problematic."

    How does one acquire such information?

    In some cases, they had to confess to their unconscious racism. Back in grad school, I attended a seminar where the prof made us reveal our dating histories. The White girls all admitted that they had never dated a non-White man.

    In other instances, they’ve simply revealed it during conversations about race (frequent conversations about race are de rigueur in academia)

    With some of them, I’m basing it on what I’ve observed. I.e., I’ve none girl X for ten years and none of her 10-12 boyfriends have been Black.

  243. @BB753
    In the early comics, Gotham was more like Chicago, with its mobsters and kingpins. Where did they draw the inspiration for Arkham asylum? Was there a similar institution in either New York or Chicago?

    Arkham only comes into the Batman story line in the 1970s and was not part of the original storyline. I guess it is something like Bellevue Hospital which was NYC’s public insane asylum.

    https://www.scoutingny.com/the-creepiest-hospital-in-manhattan-arkham-asylum-in-nyc/

    • Agree: BB753
  244. @Bardon Kaldian
    Because they've become Germans' epigones. No "real" German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)

    A commentator obwa...(whatever), who is a person of color, summed -never mind his anti-white ramblings - it perfectly:


    Absolute proof that you guys are complete douchebags.

    I mean, Batman movies? Adults actually going to see Batman movies?

    And you all cry and moan about the decadence and infantilization of Western society.

    And then you go to Batman movies. And compare them to philosophers and Renaissance painters.

    You are complete, un-self-aware, childish braindead douchbags.
     

    No “real” German or Russian

    Is that like a “true Scotsman”?

  245. @Bardon Kaldian
    Because they've become Germans' epigones. No "real" German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)

    A commentator obwa...(whatever), who is a person of color, summed -never mind his anti-white ramblings - it perfectly:


    Absolute proof that you guys are complete douchebags.

    I mean, Batman movies? Adults actually going to see Batman movies?

    And you all cry and moan about the decadence and infantilization of Western society.

    And then you go to Batman movies. And compare them to philosophers and Renaissance painters.

    You are complete, un-self-aware, childish braindead douchbags.
     

    No “real” German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons

    Dunno…..

    (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)

    Dunno. Seems to me that the French were the ones who pioneered the whole “let’s-take-pop-culture-seriously” business…..

    • Replies: @Onebelowall
    That's a good point. A lot of the early comic book heroes took their cues from the Pulp novel heroes. Thing is...wasn't it adults who were reading the pulps, not kids? It seems that this stuff is older than people think.
  246. @Jack D
    The black bums were all up in Harlem. In those days, even Skid Row was segregated, that's how racist America was.

    I feel as if the character of the bum has disappeared, replaced by "the homeless". In those days, real estate in NY was cheap enough that even bums could afford to stay in flophouses and not sleep outdoors except in nice weather. Bums were mostly just alcoholics whereas the homeless are usually mentally ill and/or drug addicts.

    Bums were mostly just alcoholics whereas the homeless are usually mentally ill and/or drug addicts.

    Yeah, I drove a cab in NYC around 1970 and the garage was on 125th Street and Broadway. There were a couple of bums who hung around the area (IIRC they slept under the West Side Highway). I would talk to them from time to time and it was no problem. They were just drunks who liked being bums.

  247. @syonredux

    You forggot to mention colonialism,
     
    Been around since prehistoric times...

    slavery,
     
    Ditto

    World War I and II,
     
    Big wars have been around for a long time........For example. the Mongol Conquests....

    Colin McEvedy, Atlas of World Population History (1978):
    China Proper: In the text, he states that the population declined by 35 million as the Mongols reduced the country to subjugation during the 13th Century. In the Chart, the population drops from 115M to 85M between 1200 and 1300 CE. (p.172)
    Iran: Charted population declined from 5.0M to 3.5M
    Afghanistan: from 2.50M to 1.75M
    Russia-in-Europe: 7.5M to 7M
    This indicates a total population decline of some 37.75 million.
     

    debt slavery to Western banks
     
    Now you're just being anti-Semitic....

    and the Nazi Holocaust.
     
    Lotsa Holocausts to go around, dear boy....


    Here's a couple of good ones.Turkish Genocide of the Armenians:

    1915-18 (generally included in the Death Tolls for World War One)
    Britannica: 600,000
    Dict.Wars: 600,000 died of starvation, disease and exhaustion
    Steven Katz in Is the Holocaust Unique? (Rosenbaum, ed.): 475,800 - 775,800
    Encarta: 800,000
    Kuper: 800,000
    Sabrina Tavernise, “Nearly a Million Genocide Victims, Covered in a Cloak of Amnesia”, New York Times, March 8, 2009. “According to a long-hidden document that belonged to the interior minister of the Ottoman Empire, 972,000 Ottoman Armenians disappeared from official population records from 1915 through 1916.” [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/world/europe/09turkey.html]
    Martin Gilbert, A History of the Twentieth Century: 1,000,000
    Eckhardt: 1,000,000 civ.
    Robert Melson in Is the Holocaust Unique?: 1,000,000
    Christopher Walker, Armenia : The Survival of a Nation (1980): 1,000,000 (in Turkey, 1915-16), plus an additional 50-100,000 (invasion of the Caucasus, 1918)
    Alan Palmer, The Decline & Fall of the Ottoman Empire (1992)
    Official Turkish est.: 300,000
    max. Armenian claims: 2M
    probable: >1,300,000 during war and aftermath
    Porter: 1,000,000 to 1,500,000
    Rummel: 1,404,000 domestic, 83,000 foreign
    War Annual 8 (1997): 1,500,000

     


    The Dzungar genocide was the mass extermination of the Mongol Buddhist Dzungar people, at the hands of the Manchu Qing dynasty of China.[2] The Qianlong Emperor ordered the genocide due to the rebellion in 1755 by Dzungar leader Amursana against Qing rule, after the dynasty first conquered the Dzungar Khanate with Amursana's support. The genocide was perpetrated by Manchu generals of the Qing army sent to crush the Dzungars, supported by Uyghur allies and vassals due to the Uyghur revolt against Dzungar rule.
     

    The Dzungar Khanate was a confederation of several Tibetan Buddhist Oirat Mongol tribes that emerged in the early 17th century, and the last great nomadic empire in Asia. Some scholars estimate that about 80% of the Dzungar population, or around 500,000 to 800,000 people, were killed by a combination of warfare and disease during or after the Qing conquest in 1755–1757.[3][4] After wiping out the native population of Dzungaria, the Qing government then resettled Han, Hui, Uyghur, and Xibe people on state farms in Dzungaria along with Manchu Bannermen to repopulate the area.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide

    All quite true.

    However, you can’t compare numbers of dead from the 20th century to numbers of dead from earlier periods. Clearly, you need to compare percentage of world dead. Or at least use both.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    All quite true.

    However, you can’t compare numbers of dead from the 20th century to numbers of dead from earlier periods. Clearly, you need to compare percentage of world dead. Or at least use both.
     
    On a percentage basis, the Mongol Conquests probably come out on top.
  248. @syonredux

    No “real” German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons

     

    Dunno.....


    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v1w97lCLD28/VGP2ROsVIuI/AAAAAAAAaJw/xABdwi8pmME/s1600/02.jpg

    http://jessnevins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/captainmors.png

    (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)
     
    Dunno. Seems to me that the French were the ones who pioneered the whole "let's-take-pop-culture-seriously" business.....

    That’s a good point. A lot of the early comic book heroes took their cues from the Pulp novel heroes. Thing is…wasn’t it adults who were reading the pulps, not kids? It seems that this stuff is older than people think.

  249. @Logan
    All quite true.

    However, you can't compare numbers of dead from the 20th century to numbers of dead from earlier periods. Clearly, you need to compare percentage of world dead. Or at least use both.

    All quite true.

    However, you can’t compare numbers of dead from the 20th century to numbers of dead from earlier periods. Clearly, you need to compare percentage of world dead. Or at least use both.

    On a percentage basis, the Mongol Conquests probably come out on top.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I’ve read 2 biographies of Gengis Khan. And a couple books about the 800AD Turks who had to retreat west because of the Mongols

    Apparently the reason Mongols killed so many was their economy. They lived by horse and sheep herds and hunting. When other central Asians settled down and built towns and planted fields and orchards that cut down on grazing for the Mongolia herds and the wild animals disappeared.

    The Mongols didn’t want slaves and taxpayers. They wanted the sedentary people gone. That’s why they slaughtered instead of enslaved and destroyed towns farms and orchards.

    They wanted a sea of grass from Poland to China and the Black Sea to Siberia. And no other ethnic tribal group within a thousand miles.
    , @Ian M.

    On a percentage basis, the Mongol Conquests probably come out on top.
     
    I'd go with Cain's murder of Abel. Wiped out 25% of the world population.
  250. @syonredux

    All quite true.

    However, you can’t compare numbers of dead from the 20th century to numbers of dead from earlier periods. Clearly, you need to compare percentage of world dead. Or at least use both.
     
    On a percentage basis, the Mongol Conquests probably come out on top.

    I’ve read 2 biographies of Gengis Khan. And a couple books about the 800AD Turks who had to retreat west because of the Mongols

    Apparently the reason Mongols killed so many was their economy. They lived by horse and sheep herds and hunting. When other central Asians settled down and built towns and planted fields and orchards that cut down on grazing for the Mongolia herds and the wild animals disappeared.

    The Mongols didn’t want slaves and taxpayers. They wanted the sedentary people gone. That’s why they slaughtered instead of enslaved and destroyed towns farms and orchards.

    They wanted a sea of grass from Poland to China and the Black Sea to Siberia. And no other ethnic tribal group within a thousand miles.

    • Replies: @Logan
    This was never really true. "The Mongols" who conquered so much of the world were not, and simply could not be, the same as the itsy-bitsy tribe that Genghis initially took control of. Instead, as with pretty much all great conquering peoples (Zulus, Romans, Muslims, etc.) they grew by assimilating others.

    Sometimes the others joined voluntarily (signing up with a winning side is often popular), sometimes they were defeated in battle, their leaders killed, and the rank and file assimilated. Sometimes Genghis even left enemy leaders alive and recruited them into his own service. Notably Jebe, who had personally shot an arrow into GK and 'fessed up to it after being captured. He became one of GK's most successful and loyal subordinates.

    Below the level of the royal family, the Mongols were intensely meritocratic, promoting men for courage and competence, not "connections." As under Napoleon, every soldier potentially carried a marshall's baton in his saddlebags.

    Now early in their career they indeed did have the idea you mention. They reportedly planned to kill all the Chinese and convert their fields into pastureland. Till a wise old Chinese scholar-official working for GK pointed out that ranching Chinese was a LOT more profitable than ranching sheep. Since the Mongols were at least as fond of money, wine and women as anybody else, they bought into this idea.

    Which doesn't mean they weren't utterly ruthless when their dominance was resisted. What is now Iraq, Iran and Central Asia had been maj0r centers of world civilization for millenia. Conquerors rolled in, took over, destroyed the cities and in many cases the irrigation systems on which that civilization depended. The local peasants rebuilt the irrigation systems, life hiccuped but went roughly on as before.

    Then the Mongols rolled in, destroyed the irrigation systems and cities, and pretty much killed all the peasants, leaving nobody to rebuild. You can make an excellent case that these areas have STILL not fully recovered from this devastation.

  251. @Lurker
    I always assumed Gotham was NYC and Metropolis was LA.

    I always thought Gotham was NYC but maybe Metropolis was small, maybe Kansas city Peoria Toledo Indianapolis. He was raised on a farm and went to the nearest city to work on the newspaper. I bought Tarzan my brothers bought Superman so we never had Batman comics.

  252. @Bardon Kaldian
    Because they've become Germans' epigones. No "real" German or Russian would pay any attention to such cartoons (with a caveat- American triumphant simpletonization has infested much of the Western world.)

    A commentator obwa...(whatever), who is a person of color, summed -never mind his anti-white ramblings - it perfectly:


    Absolute proof that you guys are complete douchebags.

    I mean, Batman movies? Adults actually going to see Batman movies?

    And you all cry and moan about the decadence and infantilization of Western society.

    And then you go to Batman movies. And compare them to philosophers and Renaissance painters.

    You are complete, un-self-aware, childish braindead douchbags.
     

    The high IQ Japanese have a major comic and anime industry as well as graphic novels. Only difference between comics and graphic novels is length and hard covers.

    Batman’s like King Arthur Star Wars Tom Sawyer and the myths and boy hero fairy tales.
    It’s a dark tale of revenge on all criminals for the death of his parents killed in front of him when he was 5.

    The comics were just comics. The TV show had a lot of humor and was suitable for5& 6 year olds. The movies are dark almost horror stories for adults. Batman movies are top ticket sellers all over the world. Not just us dumb TV watching retard White trash live then and buy tickets. That’s the test isn’t it how many tickets are sold.

  253. @Alden
    I’ve read 2 biographies of Gengis Khan. And a couple books about the 800AD Turks who had to retreat west because of the Mongols

    Apparently the reason Mongols killed so many was their economy. They lived by horse and sheep herds and hunting. When other central Asians settled down and built towns and planted fields and orchards that cut down on grazing for the Mongolia herds and the wild animals disappeared.

    The Mongols didn’t want slaves and taxpayers. They wanted the sedentary people gone. That’s why they slaughtered instead of enslaved and destroyed towns farms and orchards.

    They wanted a sea of grass from Poland to China and the Black Sea to Siberia. And no other ethnic tribal group within a thousand miles.

    This was never really true. “The Mongols” who conquered so much of the world were not, and simply could not be, the same as the itsy-bitsy tribe that Genghis initially took control of. Instead, as with pretty much all great conquering peoples (Zulus, Romans, Muslims, etc.) they grew by assimilating others.

    Sometimes the others joined voluntarily (signing up with a winning side is often popular), sometimes they were defeated in battle, their leaders killed, and the rank and file assimilated. Sometimes Genghis even left enemy leaders alive and recruited them into his own service. Notably Jebe, who had personally shot an arrow into GK and ‘fessed up to it after being captured. He became one of GK’s most successful and loyal subordinates.

    Below the level of the royal family, the Mongols were intensely meritocratic, promoting men for courage and competence, not “connections.” As under Napoleon, every soldier potentially carried a marshall’s baton in his saddlebags.

    Now early in their career they indeed did have the idea you mention. They reportedly planned to kill all the Chinese and convert their fields into pastureland. Till a wise old Chinese scholar-official working for GK pointed out that ranching Chinese was a LOT more profitable than ranching sheep. Since the Mongols were at least as fond of money, wine and women as anybody else, they bought into this idea.

    Which doesn’t mean they weren’t utterly ruthless when their dominance was resisted. What is now Iraq, Iran and Central Asia had been maj0r centers of world civilization for millenia. Conquerors rolled in, took over, destroyed the cities and in many cases the irrigation systems on which that civilization depended. The local peasants rebuilt the irrigation systems, life hiccuped but went roughly on as before.

    Then the Mongols rolled in, destroyed the irrigation systems and cities, and pretty much killed all the peasants, leaving nobody to rebuild. You can make an excellent case that these areas have STILL not fully recovered from this devastation.

  254. @Kylie
    No wonder you're not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren't really suited to comic book form.

    No wonder you’re not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren’t really suited to comic book form.

    I would love to see a Classic Comics version of The Ambassadors…..

  255. @Kylie
    No wonder you're not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren't really suited to comic book form.

    No wonder you’re not a fan of Henry James. His novels aren’t really suited to comic book form.

    I would love to see a Classic Comics version of The Ambassadors…..

    Extra points if one of the chapters is out of order.

  256. @syonredux

    All quite true.

    However, you can’t compare numbers of dead from the 20th century to numbers of dead from earlier periods. Clearly, you need to compare percentage of world dead. Or at least use both.
     
    On a percentage basis, the Mongol Conquests probably come out on top.

    On a percentage basis, the Mongol Conquests probably come out on top.

    I’d go with Cain’s murder of Abel. Wiped out 25% of the world population.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    The Mongols didn't quite hit that level. They only managed to cause the deaths of approx 10% of the Earth's population.
  257. @Ian M.

    On a percentage basis, the Mongol Conquests probably come out on top.
     
    I'd go with Cain's murder of Abel. Wiped out 25% of the world population.

    The Mongols didn’t quite hit that level. They only managed to cause the deaths of approx 10% of the Earth’s population.

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