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The New York Times continues to deliver 100 octane iSteve content from extremely self-pitying young women of quasi-color. Granted, this might possibly be a Godfrey Elfwick/Titania McGrath-style parody, but Celine Tien appears to be an actual adventuress with sizable web presences as an actress and businesswoman.

I’m Chinese. That Doesn’t Mean I Have Coronavirus.
“If you’re scared of me, get up and leave.”

By Celine Tien
Ms. Tien is an entrepreneur.

March 7, 2020

Because of misplaced fear, Asians may be facing something more contagious than Covid-19: harassment and racism.

LOS ANGELES — I turned 24 last month. The day before my birthday, I walked into a nail salon to get myself a birthday manicure. After I was seated, a nail technician walked over. She was an Asian woman in her 50s. She sat down and I smiled at her. I couldn’t see if she smiled back because she was wearing a face mask.

NYT editor: “Are you sure your Santa Monica nail salon worker wasn’t a beefy middle aged white man wearing a MAGA hat and a Confederate flag t-shirt? The subscribers really like those kind of stories … Too much? … Okay, okay, we can still work with a Vietnamese woman racist … there just will need to be a scene toward the end where all the Asians unite in racial solidarity …”

The technician looked at my hands, as if considering their shape, and then suddenly asked, “Are you Chinese?”

“I am,” I responded. “Are you?”

“No,” she said quickly, “I am Vietnamese. We all are in the salon. But are you from-China Chinese?” She raised an eyebrow, her tone like the edge of a blade, sharp and cold.

I shifted uncomfortably in the seat, suddenly very aware she was holding my hands. “I’m from mainland China and Taiwan.”

“You know, we are scared of you Chinese people,” she said loudly, because you eat “weird” food “and bring it here. Chinese people, I don’t like you, you are so bad, so bad and so gross.”

“Also, my dad died defending Vietnam when you Chinese running dogs invaded the fatherland in 1979.”

Generally speaking, these NYT op-eds in which a young lady of color quotes something racist somebody said to the author are awfully improbable. But who knows what some impoverished indentured servant/manicurist/sex slave might have said …

There was a moment when I couldn’t even hear what she was saying anymore. I could only focus on the slight shifts in her face mask as she continued to rant.

Finally, my voice cracking, I said: “I just came back from China in January. If you’re scared of me, get up and leave.” The technician went silent.

Then I ripped off her mask and sneezed in her face. Victory was mine!

The manager, who had been listening nearby, ran over to intervene. When I looked up, I realized everyone in the salon had been listening. I turned to the woman on my right, then to the other workers who were to my left. Each person I turned to looked away. The room was silent.

The manager made my nail technician leave and apologized quietly, offering a free manicure. I bit my lips to stop the trembling.

This past month, I’ve made less eye contact with people when I’ve walked outside. When I felt like coughing, I smothered the urge by biting my tongue. When I went to shake someone’s hand at a party, I instinctively scanned their arm for the tiniest jerk back, a moment of hesitation. When I went to a restaurant in Santa Monica, Calif., the awareness of my being the only Chinese person sat heavier in my gut than anything I ate at lunch.

Santa Monica restaurants are of course notorious for the heaviness of their cuisine.

I wonder if she’s borderline anorexic/bulimic? Probably she’s just a bad writer, but if this is an authentic feeling, it sounds like she might have an eating disorder, which aren’t unknown among Santa Monica actress/entrepreneurs/whatevers.

Santa Monica is whiter than most other places in Southern California at 64% non-Hispanic white, but it’s 10% Asian. So it’s not like Chinese persons are so unicorn rare in Santa Monica that white people are constantly rushing up to them to touch their long, silken alluring tresses.

Have you ever noticed that a major theme in NYT Young-Lady-of-Color opeds is the intolerable ignominy of not being in the majority? It’s almost as if YLOC op-edists don’t like diversity, which is our strength, Peace Be Upon Diversity.

All the while, I watched news headlines snowball from unforgiving takedowns about Chinese people and their supposed “hygiene problems” to random pictures of Asian-Americans walking down the street splayed as cover art for articles about non-Asian coronavirus patients.

It dawned on me: Sensational reporting and social media were making fear more contagious than the virus itself.

I realized my friends in the United States read only the headlines about the coronavirus but knew nothing about the stories behind them. They didn’t hear from our family friend whose mother, a doctor, flew from Guangdong Province to Wuhan to volunteer with thousands of other hospital workers.

To be precise, I didn’t personally fly to Wuhan to volunteer with thousands of other hospital workers. I would have, but I was too busy updating my Instagram account. But racially, I did do that, more or less.

They didn’t see the lines etched into doctors’ and nurses’ faces from wearing face masks and goggles nonstop for weeks.

My non-Asian friends don’t have friends in China who carefully ration their meals into daily slivers because supermarket shelves are empty. They don’t see the internet activity in cities across Asia, where people come together to comfort one another during quarantine, to be together even when they are apart.

People in America aren’t sharing enough of these stories because what they really want to share is fear. Fear generated by the headlines that my friends whisper about over every meal.

Fear arouses us more. Fear is viral. When fear is coursing through every group chat, Instagram story, news headline, people don’t stop to ask: Are we hurting anyone by perpetuating it?

After I rushed home from the nail salon that day, my mother and I called the owner. We asked her to let us come into her store and speak to her staff. The owner agreed.

The next morning, my mother, two friends and I gathered in a circle with the entire salon staff of Asian women. At first, no one said anything. But slowly, one by one, they started asking questions that revealed their foremost fear: the coronavirus death rate.

I brought up a report by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention: It had the Covid-19 fatality rate at 2.3 percent. The latest report from the World Health Organization shows the global fatality rate at 3.4 percent, but the rate varies from country to country. In South Korea, where thousands have been tested and 35 have died, the rate is currently about 0.6 percent.

And considering that the number cases that are not reported — because of mild symptoms — is probably high, epidemiologists believe that the death rate could be under 1 percent, and even lower in China once you look outside of Wuhan. About 80 percent of Covid-19 cases appear to be mild and do not require medical treatment. They resolve on their own. Chinese analysts have found that 1.2 percent of Covid-19 cases are completely asymptomatic.

We also talked about how perpetuating harmful stereotypes that Chinese people eat “weird” food can be detrimental not just to Chinese people but also to all Asians. After all, to many Americans, we all look the same.

My voice a little unsteady, I shared with the women that the incident in the salon left me shaky for the rest of the day. That by nighttime, my anger had melted away to tears, leaving me collapsed on the couch.

But something haunted me more than the nail technician’s rant: The silence in the room when everyone heard it.

Silence is deafening. Silence is enabling. In my family people call me the pit bull because I’m the first to fight back if someone attacks my people. In the one moment I tried and failed to be my own pit bull, no one stepped in to be mine.

At the end of our conversation, there was a brief silence, and then a woman stepped forward. She said quietly: “This has happened to me too. People said bad things to me, too, because of virus.” The manager, who had been profusely apologizing, stopped. Her face softened to sadness.

“Customers come in and ask me again and again, am I Chinese, have I been to China, do I have the virus,” she said. “I didn’t know what to say before when people say bad things. Now I know.”

The moral of the story: All of us billions of Asians must band together against the Real Enemy: Fear, fear and White People. You Vietnamese Jungle Asians will of course be glad that you enjoy the leadership of us Chinese Fancy Asians.

The coronavirus is serious. It is worth taking protective measures against. I am also wary of it. But in the past few weeks, I’ve learned to be fearful of things possibly more contagious than Covid-19: racism and the silence of those who witness it.

If you see someone like me being harassed or attacked, step in. Say something. If you can’t say something, at least check on the person afterward. Share facts on social media about Covid-19, not fear.

I have a little brother I want to protect and parents who I hope can walk into a store and not be made to feel inhuman. With every word I write, I think: We cannot forsake love even in fear, because that’s when we need it most.

Celine Tien is the founder and chief executive of Flowly: Relaxation Training, a mobile virtual reality app for chronic pain and anxiety management.

Ms. Tien is clearly an expert at managing anxiety in order to relax.

 
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  1. black sea says:

    Cute.

    If only she could barely speak English.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • LOL: Jus' Sayin'...
  2. I give her credit for reporting that the offender was Vietnamese. She could have invented a white person for that role, at no risk that the Times might try verifying anything.

  3. Hail says: • Website

    In my family people call me the pit bull because I’m the first to fight back if someone attacks my people

    To quote Ann Coulter,

    Our new country’s going to be GREAT!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Charon
  4. Polynikes says:
    @International Jew

    She could try, but I don’t think there’s a nail shop in America that isn’t run by a Vietnamese family. I’m sure all the little princesses at the NYT know that instinctively and thus wouldn’t try and dare pass off such a lie.

    On the other hand, if she came back to her editor with a story about a Crips/Bloods turf war and said she interviewed gang leader Werner Gustofussön, her editors wouldn’t even blink.

    • LOL: Smithsonian_6
    • Replies: @mmack
  5. It will change.

    If, perhaps, as is very possible, the corona virus infections are associated with smoking tobacco, smokers will be complaining that people recoil from them in supermarkets as if they smell like ashtrays.

    That will get Chinese people off the scapegoat hook.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  6. Altai says:

    If you look up the main wikipedia article on the outbreak they have a whole section on the main page and entire article devoted to ‘Xenophobia and racism related to the 2019–20 coronavirus outbreak’. Is your country in their list?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak#Xenophobia_and_racism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia_and_racism_related_to_the_2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak

    It reminds me of when Arabs are asked about racism they all say lots of Americans ask them if they rode a camel to school and I’m thinking, in 2020? Haven’t stereotypes of Arabs taken a different hue? Who are these people who say things like that? Or is that their stereotype of what stereotypes they think Americans have of them? *Inception music*

    But I do find it funny that the first incident listed is just a deliveryman making a joke that may even have been meant to be funny and a Chinese guy flipping out and getting into a fight with him. We must protect Chinese supermarket owners from occasional edgy humour from their deliverymen inferiors.

    On 26 February 2020, an incident involving a fight was reported in La Plata between a Chinese supermarket owner and an Argentine delivery man. The fight was triggered because the delivery man jokingly said “¿Qué hacés, coronavirus?” (“What’s up, coronavirus?”), making a joke about Chinese people and the coronavirus. Both men ended up injured and the police later had to intervene.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    , @Charon
  7. Some people think Chinese and Whites are some sort of natural allies, most often these people are IQists like Jared Taylor or John Derbyshire.

    I think it should periodically he re-iterated that these people are our racial enemies. They will not be kind to us when they take over and they are all for diversity in Western countries…as long as it includes a Chinese overclass.

  8. El Dato says:

    That sultry look. Uhhh~~

    We have found the Real World Corona-Chan.

  9. Hail says: • Website

    I turned 24 last month. The day before my birthday, I walked into a nail salon to get myself a birthday manicure. After I was seated, a nail technician walked over.

    Nail technician.

    Celine Tien is the founder and chief executive of Flowly: Relaxation Training, a mobile virtual reality app for chronic pain and anxiety management.

    How did this person get an offer to write an op-ed in the New York Times?

    _______________

    CELINE TIEN
    – Born Feb. 1996 (her telling), close ties to “mainland China, Taiwan,” and Los Angeles;
    2000s: Several child actor roles in Hollywood;
    – Graduated high school in June 2013 (age 17);
    – Attended Yale, Fall 2013 to Spring 2017; involved in Yale Polo Team, Yale Business Society, Staff Reporter for Yale Daily News (first two years);
    Summer 2015 (on-site) and into 2016 (remote): Intern at “Pearl Studio 东方梦工厂” in Shanghai;
    Summer 2016: Intern at Dreamworks, Los Angeles;
    May 2017: Graduated, founder and ‘CEO’ of an app (to present).

    She is remarkably undistinguished to be writing an op-ed in the New York Times. Maybe in a small-town newspaper somewhere. What is going on?

  10. @International Jew

    She could have said that her manicurist was a beefy middle aged white man wearing a Confederate flag t-shirt and a MAGA hat.

  11. Realist says:

    O.T.

    We are back on fiat time. An hour stolen from the morning and given to the afternoon.
    This works great with our fiat monetary system…since time=money.

    • Replies: @jsm
    , @MBlanc46
  12. What are the chances a woman working in a Vietnamese nail salon speaks perfectly idiomatic and grammatical English?

    • LOL: Hail
  13. These stories remind me of the hero fantasies I occasionally had when I was young. I almost wished something bad would happen to someone near me so I could step in and be the hero. They started off ridiculous, like my 10-year-old self stopping a bank robbery, and became realistic, like my 18-year-old self rescuing a person after a car crash. Like that great scene in a Christmas Story where Ralphie imagines saving his family from the robber gang with his bb gun, and his family weeps and gushes over him. I assumed these are universal in boys or young men and non-existent with women, but now I know better. Minority women have their own hero fantasies.

  14. @Steve Sailer

    I ran out of LOLs already this morning. That was great!

    “Ya want I clean under them thar cuticles?”

  15. Silence is deafening. Silence is enabling. In my family people call me the pit bull.

    Better stay away from mainland China. They would probably try to eat you.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  16. @Hail

    In 2020, being a young female graduate of diversity opens the door to an article or two, or a year as a cub reporter with the New York Times, if you’ve majored in journalism or English at Yale, especially.

    It’s a thing, I’m told, by a person who fits exactly that description. There must be something to my young friend’s observation, or she wouldn’t have said it.

    • Replies: @Lugash
  17. Andrew M says:

    I wonder if blonde girls in majority-minority schools face endless questions about their uncommon hair.

  18. Anon[109] • Disclaimer says:

    “When I went to shake someone’s hand at a party, I instinctively scanned their arm for the tiniest jerk back, a moment of hesitation.” How would you like to be on the other end of one of those handshakes?

  19. Coag says:

    Back in the 80s Americans in Beijing would be asked by curious locals “Do you have AIDS? Do all Americans have AIDS?”

    • Replies: @anonguy
    , @epebble
  20. I’ve honestly never been into a nail salon (the one girlfriend who did all that nail stuff did it herself at home), but I was under the impression that the girls inside wear masks all the time for the fumes. I know I must have looked into a place walking by.

    … I shared with the women that the incident in the salon left me shaky for the rest of the day. That by nighttime, my anger had melted away to tears, leaving me collapsed on the couch.

    What, no work done today? How can you be an entrepreneur if you don’t get any work done? At 24 y/o, if you find yourself collapsed on the couch, perhaps you have a touch of the coronavirus.

    “Customers come in and ask me again and again, am I Chinese, have I been to China, do I have the virus,” she said. “I didn’t know what to say before when people say bad things. Now I know.”

    She just got done saying in her article that she DID just come back from China, in January. Does she lie to her customers, or was the “came back in January” bit a lie?

    I enjoy these iSteve posts based on his readings of the idiocy of the NY Times. The only thing that would have made this a lot better was some video … of whatever cat fight ensued at the end. Oriental women rolling around the nail salon, some with their clothes torn … off … scratching each other in the torso with bright-colored nails, … help me out … Alden?

    Steve, do you want hits, or not? You know we don’t read that rag – why didn’t you just embellish it with a cat fight at the end?

  21. @International Jew

    I give her credit for reporting that the offender was Vietnamese.

    In the 90s it was apparently the Koreans who were responsible for nail salon harassment.

  22. @International Jew

    In the UK, the Viet men (often illegals) run cannabis growing operations and the women (ditto?) run nail bars and ‘massage parlours’.

    It seems to be incredibly easy to come to the UK to “study” and never leave. Quyen Ngoc Nguyen came to “study business” in London but ended up running a nail bar in Newcastle with a sideline in fixing accommodation for fellow illegals or for cannabis farming.

    “As well as helping to run the nail salon, Miss Nguyen had a part of her life which was largely kept secret. She was involved in helping obtain and rent flats for people who did not have the necessary documents or permission to live and work in this country.

    Police inquiries with various estate agents and letting agents in the North East have shown that she would spend a lot of her spare time travelling around the region viewing and renting properties.

    Mr Hill said: “Police inquiries have also shown that some of the properties rented were used for farming cannabis. It is through the renting of properties that she came to know Unwin in April 2017. It is our case that the ancillary matter of cannabis farming is likely to have played a part in the events leading up to her death.””

    She met with two “property maintenance” guys who also had a sideline in stealing cannabis from said farms. What she didn’t know was that they were both murderers (of defenceless people during burglaries) released on licence by our useless Parole Board.

    You would just never guess what happened next.

    https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/nguyen-mcfall-unwin-murder-rape-14321387

    • Replies: @Tony
  23. Jimi says:

    The majority of ethnic tensions in America are now comprised of immigrant groups playing out their ethnic and racial tensions in this country.

    Turks vs Armenians
    South Asian Muslims vs Hindus
    Chinese vs Vietnamese

    Or Nashville, TN which is now home to gangs from rival Kurdish families.

    Is there anyone brave enough to tell these people that they need to let go of their ancestral ethnic grudges and assimilate?

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Pericles
  24. Hemid says:
    @Just Passing Through

    The Chinese are our rivals, not our enemies.

    Chinese-Americans (and -Canadians, and -Australians, and…) are our enemies—or so they say in all our mainstream media and in all their own niche media and on all the social media we’re all banned from for hating people on it.

    We should probably believe what they say, and even if not we should notice who they’re imitating when they talk like that.

  25. @Foreign Expert

    Right, and Steve is right that these Vietnamese girls could very well be the equivalent of indentured servants, sex slaves, etc. As I said, I’ve never been inside, but whatever happened to the Korean ladies that use to be in this business. Likely their English was better, but you could always speak to them in Korean if you were Frank Constanza:

  26. So it’s not like Chinese persons are so rare that white people are constantly rushing up to them to touch their long, silken tresses.

    Chinese women’s hair feels the opposite of silken

  27. Dumbo says:

    Isn’t there some bad blood between the Chinese and the Vietnamese? This is what I gathered from reading Lihn Dihn. And aren’t all the characters in this (fictional?) story women? So I don’t see where the “evil white male patriarchy” enters here, but I guess it’s their fault, somehow.

  28. @Hail

    One of the people paying for all the location shots in her Instagram is well-connected?

    • Replies: @Hail
  29. I remain unconvinced that a cute, rich, healthy 24 year old woman has any real problems.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  30. Anon[587] • Disclaimer says:

    The nasty bite of racism extends beyond epidemics:

    UK’s ‘Birdgirl’ a voice for equality and against racism in conservation
    How a UK teenager has become one of the world’s top young birdwatchers and an advocate for more diversity of people in conservation and environmental activism.

    https://www.dw.com/en/uk-birdgirls-fights-for-the-planet-and-equality-in-conservation/a-52527367

    Mya-Rose’s father is an avian enthusiast and cultivated a love of the hobby within his family. At 17-years-old, she’s now the youngest person to have spotted half the world’s known birds — an impressive 5,369 species.

    Yet as a young woman of Bangladeshi heritage, Mya-Rose noticed early on that there were very few people in the field who looked like her. “I found it really upsetting that other people just weren’t having the same opportunities.”

    She looks completely white in the photo and on YouTube. From internet photos her father seems English, and her mother has a light skinned ethnic vibe.

    Mya-Rose organized her first “Race Equality in Nature” conference to highlight this lack of diversity not only in access to nature, but also in conservation and environmental work. The environmental sector is among the least diverse in the UK —just over 3% of environment professionals identify as non-white minorities according to one study.

    The event brings NGOs, academics, young naturalists and representatives from black, Asian and minority ethnic and faith communities together to work out the complex reasons for the lack of diversity , she says.

    “It ranges from things like a lot of people in these communities not having appropriate clothes for English weather,” says Mya-Rose, “or this massive cultural fear of dogs, to much more difficult issues such as this feeling within the communities that the countryside is very white and elitist, and that they’re not welcome.”

    So nobody’s really doing anything discriminatory. Why can’t these issues be framed as introducing a field to a new group rather than shoehorning into a fake story about racism?

    I can’t wait for the Race Equality in Bluegrass movement.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  31. Anon[587] • Disclaimer says:

    random pictures of Asian-Americans walking down the street splayed as cover art for articles about non-Asian coronavirus patients.

    This reminds me of fat liberation folks complaining about the “headless fattie” photos that illustrate every article about obesity.

  32. @Jonathan Mason

    This week or next week are about to get crazy in the US, so fasten your seat belts.

    The first DC CV case had no foreign travel. That means the disease has been “in the wild” in DC for a while. There are now confirmed positive CV cases from both AIPAC and CPAC recent meetings. Combined with a gerontocracy that is very vulnerable to disease, this is about to get real in DC.

    The naked fear will be quite the spectacle…grab lots of popcorn.

    Everyone will be staying away from all politicians like they have the plague–which they may have!

    References:
    https://nypost.com/2020/03/07/first-coronavirus-case-confirmed-in-washington-dc/
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/coronavirus-washington-dc-first-case-123431

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  33. El Dato says:
    @Steve Sailer

    But women rarely go into THOSE kind of nail expert shops

    • Replies: @Meneldil
  34. The New York Times is full of these people. Look at the editorial board. It’s made up of people like Mara Gay who can’t even do basic math (it’s all over Twitter).

    Ones like Bari Weiss are profoundly ignorant of basic facts. Even more, she seems confused about her sexuality. She dated SNL star Kate McKinnon in college, then married a man. And is now back dating a woman. And she’s one of the more normal ones at the NYTs.

    This is not a serious institution. But I wonder who made the decision to hire this new crew?

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/opinion/editorialboard.html

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Father O'Hara
  35. Corvinus says:

    “The New York Times continues to deliver 100 octane iSteve content from extremely self-pitying young women of quasi-color.”

    Sailer’s Iron Rule of Femme Fatalism in action! A sardonic, prototypical Alt Right piece in which a male author offers “staccato grievance commentary”™ about some obscure female writer’s vignette as “proof” of the widespread influence of an Ivory Tower concept.

  36. Corvinus says:
    @Hail

    Exactly what British Islanders (English, Welsh, Cornish) said–aka Heritage Americans–when they invited in non-British Islanders. Thanks diversity!

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-anti-immigration-cartoon-entitled-unrestricted-immigration-and-its-32393339.html

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Clyde
  37. mmack says:

    O’Brien:
    If you want a vision of the future, Winston, imagine a young woman you don’t know, complaining about things you don’t care about, forever

    • Replies: @Forbes
  38. “No,” she said quickly, “I am Vietnamese. We all are in the salon. But are you from-China Chinese?” She raised an eyebrow, her tone like the edge of a blade, sharp and cold.

    Beaucoup bad blood between the Vietnamese and Chinese.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  39. Charon says:
    @Foreign Expert

    What are the chances that a “grievance” op-ed in the New York Times includes any verifiable facts?

  40. mmack says:
    @Polynikes

    Agreed on the Vietnamese running nail salons 💅🏻 . Here in Flatlandia, USA the two salons my wife patronizes are run by Vietnamese women. I’ve met them when I buy gift certificates for her as birthday or Christmas gifts. Oddly though, there are some men at the salons that do nail work too. But they are well outnumbered by women.

  41. I had a dinner party last night. For drinks I offered among other things Corona Beer with lime wedges to provide the prophylactic benefit of vitamin C. Big laughter all around. No Asians were offended in the course of this event.

    BTW, the name Celine Tien has a sort of musical quality to it.

    • Replies: @Hail
  42. Charon says:
    @Altai

    Who are these people who say things like that? Or is that their stereotype of what stereotypes they think Americans have of them?

    Bingo. That’s all they have left at this point. And since (along with American Negroes) they get most of their notions from Hollywood, many are ludicrous. Jussie Smollett for example. It even extends to rape fantasies and that evil Haven Monahan.

  43. ChrisZ says:

    Would it be funny or sad if it turned out the girl editorialist really DID have the virus?

    That might be something to keep tabs on.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Forbes
  44. Jazzbeaux says:

    So, the Times mocks Trump for saying the coronavirus is overblown, but gives young women of color a forum to say the same thing?

  45. Charon says:
    @Hail

    I’m the first to fight back if someone attacks my people

    But she’s American, right? So she’s going to be the first to defend Americans right?

    Good to know.

  46. kihowi says:

    “You know, we are scared of you Chinese people,” she said loudly, because you eat “weird” food “and bring it here. Chinese people, I don’t like you, you are so bad, so bad and so gross.”

    She then added:

    “But enough about that. How come you’re so beautiful and aren’t getting the kinds of parts you should be getting? What’s up with racist casting directors?”

    • Replies: @Jack D
  47. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    “Better dead than racist”

  48. Quebecer says:

    One more example of a fairly hot young lady using a bogus reason to attract more attention than her simple good looks would deserve. Ok, job done, on to the next caller

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  49. Fear arouses us more. Fear is viral. When fear is coursing through every group chat, Instagram story, news headline, people [guest columnists] don’t stop to ask [themselves]: Are we hurting anyone by perpetuating it?

    我帮你修好了。 Wok calling the kettle black.

    They didn’t hear from our family friend whose mother, a doctor, flew from Guangdong Province to Wuhan to volunteer with thousands of other hospital workers.

    Celine Tien = “Let niece in!”

    BTW, is Tien pronounced “Dion”, by any chance?

    In my family people call me the pit bull…

    If you think racism is bad, try breedism on for size:

    https://www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/pit-bull-bans-in-the-usa/

    She’s lucky her family didn’t have serve for dinner!

    (To be fair, this can go both ways: Dude Dies After His Pit Bull Eats His Nuts)

    Meanwhile (okay, five months ago), in Hongcouver, common sense from a judge, or merely race-trumps-“gender”, this time?

    Transgender woman’s waxing complaint dismissed by Human Rights Tribunal

  50. JohnnyD says:
    @International Jew

    True, Ms. Tien let it slip that all the Asian nationalities don’t really like each other. But she was also trying to shame other Asians for stereotyping the Chinese, when all Asians should come together by hating white people.

  51. Lot says:
    @Hail

    Her free app has 22 reviews.

    She’s really a trustafarian looking for a rich husband.

  52. Barnard says:
    @Foreign Expert

    Wouldn’t quoting her broken and incorrect Engrish be a firable offense at the New York Times?

  53. We also talked about how perpetuating harmful stereotypes that Chinese people eat “weird” food

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/05/asia/china-coronavirus-wildlife-consumption-ban-intl-hnk/index.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/27/shenzhen-could-be-first-city-in-china-to-ban-eating-of-dogs-and-cats

    can be detrimental not just to Chinese people but also to all Asians.

    “Hey, how about some racial solidarity here? Who’s side are you on? White Americans or Chinese?”

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  54. I think that we are learning that “what is best in life” for female Conans is to drive your satisfying emotional experience before you and to hear the lamentations of the lower-status women.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  55. @Lot

    Check out the doctors and institutions she’s claiming to work with for her pain management app.

    This mini-Theranos doesn’t pass the smell test.

    • Replies: @Lot
  56. For a refreshing balance, Elizabeth Cheng, a.k.a. Lizzy Sharer, is enjoying YouTube success simply by being friendly and a good sport. And, what with so many women not taking their husbands’ names, how often do you see one taking her boyfriend’s?

    LIZZY SHARER – FROM CARNEGIE MELLON TO YOUTUBE STAR

    Liz: Our target audience is probably ages four to twelve-ish, it kind of ranges.

    Gaah! Crosshairs aimed right into our living room!

    • Replies: @Clyde
  57. jsm says:
    @Realist

    Hi, Realist,

    An hour stolen from the morning and given to the afternoo

    n

    I know you’re joking, but this drives me nuts, because there are idiots out there who think that’s what really happens.

    No, Idiots Out There, we do not “take an hour from the morning and move it to the evening.” DST simply forces you to get up an hour earlier than you would otherwise, and because you are therefore tired earlier, sends you to bed an hour earlier, all the while lying to you that it’s 6 am / 10 PM *because the clock says so*, when in fact it’s 5 AM / 9 PM by the sun.

  58. It happens that a member of my family is married to a woman from China whose parents also now live near them in the US.

    I asked them how they are handling the virus situation.

    Answer: avoiding all other Chinese.

    A practical culture. It’s the ABCs (American Born Chinese) you’ve got to watch for. Too much assimilation, I guess.

  59. Lot says:

    Adult woman calls her mother crying because an untouchable made a impudent remark.

    Tiger mother screams and threatens nail salon owner. Result: sub minimum wage tipped workers must stop work so they can engage in a self-criticism, apology, and re-education session. Tiger cub writes NYT article about her feelings.

    • Agree: Fred C Dobbs, bomag, Hail, Charon
    • Thanks: Father O'Hara
    • LOL: Adam Smith
  60. Flemur says:

    I’m Not Chinese. That Means In The Absence Of Other Data That I’m Less Likely Than A Chinese Person To Have Coronavirus.

    And…coronavirus?

    The WHO named it covid-19 to purposely hide the fact that a much better name would be The Chinese Bat-Piss Plague.

    Any deaths in Sub-Saharan Africa yet? Last I heard there were only two cases, both of them Europeans, and no deaths.

  61. @Corvinus

    Exactly what British Islanders (English, Welsh, Cornish) said–aka Heritage Americans–when they invited in non-British Islanders. Thanks diversity!

    You really should thank the people you mock. If it wasn’t for their holding newcomers to the highest standards, assimilation would have taken place more slowly, if at all. Fewer failures would have returned home, as is the case today.

    Assimilation doesn’t occur automatically, at least not beyond very small numbers. That’s why it worked so much better in the South, Mexico, and Brazil– so many fewer to assimilate. Cherry-picking.

    This phenomenon never enters into the corvalculus.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  62. ATBOTL says:
    @Just Passing Through

    All younger pro-white people get this. The problem is these old boomer type IQ elitists.

  63. Corn says:

    “We also talked about how perpetuating harmful stereotypes that Chinese people eat “weird” food can be detrimental not just to Chinese people but also to all Asians. After all, to many Americans, we all look the same.”

    We all look the same to “them”, they’re gonna hate us, so let’s hate them together! Go Team!

  64. Corn says:

    “ In my family people call me the pit bull because I’m the first to fight back if someone attacks my people.”

    I started to notice twenty years ago when a white American spoke of “my people” they meant Americans.

    When non-whites speak of “my people” they mean anything but that.

    • Replies: @Hail
  65. “When I went to a restaurant in Santa Monica, Calif., the awareness of my being the only Chinese person sat heavier in my gut than anything I ate at lunch.”

    What makes it really bad is that, for lunch, she had a couple of bracioles you coulda busted a plate glass window with.

  66. I hope can walk into a store and not be made to feel inhuman.

    She sounds like Michelle Obama complaining, “We’ve both felt the sting of those daily slights throughout our entire lives — the folks who crossed the street in fear of their safety; the clerks who kept a close eye on us in all those department stores…”

    • Replies: @Charon
  67. Thea says:

    Nail salons are notorious sources of disease. A local one was responsible for spreading hep c. Can’t understand why anyone goes to them. Doing your own nails is cheaper and safer.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  68. @Just Passing Through

    Some people think Chinese and Whites are some sort of natural allies, most often these people are IQists like Jared Taylor or John Derbyshire.

    I think it should periodically he re-iterated that these people are our racial enemies. They will not be kind to us when they take over and they are all for diversity in Western countries…as long as it includes a Chinese overclass.

    Agreed – the smart non-whites (East Asians and, you know, that other very smart group) are who we should be the most wary of.

  69. BenKenobi says:

    Always with the “literally shaking”, oy vey.

    From the useless c*nts at the CBC: Woman told to go back to China in grocery store, VPD investigates.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/racist-attack-no-frills-covid-19-coronavirus-mask-slur-1.5488923

  70. The new Mars rover was named by a white kid from Virginia. It’s very revealing, after a critical component of human progress. Note that the kid uses the word “race” at least twice in his short acceptance speech.

    Also, why are we expected to remember “spring forward, fall back”, when in real life things tend to the opposite behavior? I almost always fall forward; I can’t remember the last time falling back. (Okay, two weeks ago under the flu when, crawling out of bed to do number three, I blacked out on the way to the loo. But that was a highly unusual event.)

    It’s easier to remember that clock changes are compensatory. When you start to shiver in the autumn, you are rewarded with an extra hour of sleep. When things warm up, you pay.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  71. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:

    Involved somewhere in this fracas between the AMW (A-AMW?) and Donut Lady’s exfiltrated niece is the black body attractor for nanoaggressive gravitons. Daylight saving, too, is problematic

  72. Thirdtwin says:

    What maudlin crap. All that’s missing is “slant-eyes”, only because it’s problematic for the who/whom in this narrative.

  73. @El Dato

    Umm, that would be a sullen look…

    FIFY

  74. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    You are the quintessence of the Kevin Bacon character in “Animal House”

  75. Alfa158 says:
    @Corvinus

    She’s clearly less obscure than Steve Sailer; she is published in “the newspaper of record”, and Steve isn’t. It isn’t Steve’s fault that they keep lobbing these bloopers right over the middle of the plate so he can smack them into the stands.
    Celine gave him Sailerbait, not only in the form of the this fabricated article, but the laughably sultry glamour poses. Maybe Steve can repay the favor, and we all know what’s she is really after. Steve should have some tall, handsome, Germanic looking young men in his family, so maybe he could set one of them up with her. (Well OK, assuming the kid’s Dun & Bradstreet rating is good enough.)

    • Replies: @Charon
    , @Corvinus
  76. Some segments of the population have really taken the opportunity presented by the Coronvirus outbreak’s initial association with China to lambast white people for racism…. not at all surprising. Some Asian-Americans seem really, really excited about it “It’s our chance, finally!!!” to go full-on Fuck-You Whitey. They typically get out-competed by blacks in this regard, so now is their time to shine and showcase resentment to the host/ founder populations of countries they or their parents/grandparents opted to move to.

    • Agree: Hail
  77. I think students these days are encouraged to write this kind of thing in school, and that college application forms ask kids to discuss barriers they’ve encountered and have overcome (with the result that even lucky kids from good families wind up overdramatizing tiny slights for the sake of big rewards).

    Fwiw, I think of these kinds of op-ed pieces as “college application essays.” They’ve been a real blight, but they’ve certainly become a major genre.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @SFG
  78. Charon says:
    @Alfa158

    “Don’t I look hot complaining about racism?”

  79. Her article has basically two parts:

    1) You are racist for thinking because i’m Chinese i’m more likely to have this corona virus.

    2) You should listen to me about the corona virus because i’m Chinese and have lots of family and friends dealing with the corona virus in its epicenter in China.

    In fairness, she separates these contradictory arguments by a few of paragraphs (of whiny narrative) which is more than you can say for Alexandra Phelan (just slamming them right next to each other).

    ~

    Also not she’s a “pit bull” for “her people”.

    And “her people” are not Americans, but Chinese.

    I was under the impression that there is a nation for people whose “people” are Chinese. She needs to go there immediately.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @ChrisZ
  80. Lugash says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Payola?

    Steve’s written about The Number that some parents people have to pay to get their dimwit children into Ivy League colleges and there’s the college admissions scandal that snared institutions a tier lower. Is it impossible to believe that parents are either bribing the editor under the table or it’s official company policy? An op-ed in the New York Times is a pretty impressive thing to put on your bio.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
    , @Charon
    , @Dumbo
  81. Charon says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    How dare white people try to avoid criminals? Don’t they know they’re supposed to be victims?

    They’re supposed to like it!

    And before you laugh, consider the fact that many do.

  82. Charon says:
    @Lugash

    Even if the editors at the NYT were susceptible to bribery, you wouldn’t have to pay them to run dreck like this. It’s what they live for.

    And they get hundreds of submissions daily so it’s just a matter of choosing one they like. One with good optics.

  83. Who knew that [working class] Vietnamese might not like [uppity] Chinese?

    Next they’ll be telling me that some Japanese and Koreans don’t gee and haw too well. Or Indians/Pakistanis, Irish/English, French/Germans, Jews/Arabs…well you get the picture.

    On the other hand [looks at pics]; she seems nice and Bubba does have some anxiety issues…

  84. Dumbo says:
    @Lugash

    An op-ed in the New York Times is a pretty impressive thing to put on your bio.

    Is it? Sometimes I think that the only one who reads these op-eds is Steve. I certainly only find out about them through the blog here.

  85. But what she really wants to know is…Do these pictures make me look sultry and sexy??🤔

  86. @Lot

    Adult woman calls her mother crying because an untouchable made a impudent remark.
    Tiger mother screams and threatens nail salon owner. Result: sub minimum wage tipped workers must stop work so they can engage in a self-criticism, apology, and re-education session. Tiger cub writes NYT article about her feelings.

    An excellent summary. Spot on.

  87. The Z Blog says: • Website

    Autoethnography is a wildly popular with the girls for a reason. That reason is girls like to talk about themselves.

    • Agree: Forbes
    • Troll: Corvinus
  88. @Lot

    At the very bottom it mentions the name of the company — Tamade LLC.

    Hm. One of the vilest insults in Chinese has the pinyin “tamade”. Coincidence or a joke on the non-Chinese?

    • Agree: Change that Matters
    • LOL: SOL
  89. Altai says:

    Somewhat on topic: More examples of the spread of the virus in NYS and NYC being mediated through Orthodox Jewish networks. Almost all (I think more than 80) the identified cases in New York are in New Rochelle and connected to the same synagogue which serves a prominent Orthodox enclave. This is probably why Israel was so quick in trying to shut down travel from the US today.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/06/rabbi-at-new-rochelle-coronavirus-synagogue-has-tested-positive/

    So far the lawyer who worked near Grand Central (Who lives in New Rochelle), the delegates who exposed others at AIPAC and the first case in Kansas (Popping up in a suburb with a very large Orthodox enclave from a woman who recently visited New Rochelle) all appear to be linked through the Orthodox community though the media won’t say it explicitly and the non-Jewish media doesn’t even hint.

    And now cases in Far Rockaway.

    Googles: Far Rockaway Orthodox Jews
    Keeping Peace Alive And Tensions Dormant;Diverse Far Rockaway Sees Room For Harmony as Jewish Enclave Grows June 10, 1996
    https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/10/world/keeping-peace-alive-tensions-dormant-diverse-far-rockaway-sees-room-for-harmony.html

    https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Rockaways/

    The original Jewish settlers were mostly Reform Jews, but a steady influx of Orthodox Jews ultimately transformed Far Rockaway into an area known for its famous rabbis, scholars, Jewish communal leaders, Jewish institutions – and its philanthropy. Sometimes Far Rockaway has been referred to as “Torah by the Sea”. Far Rockaway’s Jewish community has had a major impact on the development of Orthodox Jewry in the nearby Five Towns (Inwood, Lawrence, Cedarhurst, Woodmere, and Hewlett).

    Bayswater Vs. Far Rockaway
    https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/bayswater-vs-far-rockaway

    Bayswater is beautiful and pretty affordable (major pro), but you have to go through a challenging part of town to get to Far Rockaway, and you can feel almost like being isolated at times. It was hit pretty hard by Sandy.

    Far Rockaway has many shuls to choose from, several yeshivas for boys and girls of all ages, and is safe walking distance to the Five Towns also. Home values have risen in recent years, and the community is eclectic in its demographic. It would be my first choice of the two.

    In both neighborhoods, people DO say Good Shabbos to you, for the most part, or will answer if you say it first. Many young couples have been moving in to Bayswater in recent years, and are very happy there.

    I wonder if this isn’t the US equivalent of the church in South Korea. At this point the US has lost control, it’s a matter of delaying and hoping the warm weather slows down transmission enough for a breather before another wave comes in winter and before a vaccine is produced in enough supply to at least protect the vulnerable and health care workers.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Nicholas Stix
    , @Rob
  90. @Lot

    Tiger cub writes NYT article about her feelings.

    I’m Chinese. That Doesn’t Mean I Have Bat Soup Fever.
    By Celine Tien

  91. @black sea

    Eh, a hard 6 without the angles and airbrushing:

    Also, was Celine the number one baby name for girls born in China around 20 years ago? Or were her parents possibly fans of the most shallow and pretentious pop singer to come out of Canada in the 90’s?

  92. J1234 says:

    I’m Chinese. That Doesn’t Mean I Have Coronavirus.

    One good thing about the coronavirus, being suspected of having it makes you morally superior to others. And who doesn’t like being morally superior to others?

    “You know, we are scared of you Chinese people,” she said loudly, because you eat “weird” food “and bring it here. Chinese people, I don’t like you, you are so bad, so bad and so gross.”

    I’ve heard that the Vietnamese are pretty rude, as Asians go. If that nail salon employee actually said that, then she was being terribly rude. It seems the author should have a problem with Vietnamese rudeness, and little else.

    When I went to shake someone’s hand at a party, I instinctively scanned their arm for the tiniest jerk back, a moment of hesitation.

    As far as reluctance to shake hands goes, I live in a Midwestern state that hasn’t recorded any community transmission yet, and even I don’t shake hands. I’ve skipped church the last couple of weeks, too. How could people in California not be doing the same?

  93. SFG says:
    @Just Passing Through

    I think the people in charge may be thinking they can assimilate them into a mixed overclass. Kind of like the tiger mom’s Chewish kids.

  94. ChrisZ says:
    @AnotherDad

    I was under the impression that there is a nation for people whose “people” are Chinese. She needs to go there immediately.

    And for good, Dad. And for good.

  95. SFG says:
    @Paleo Retiree

    “Throughout my life, my whole existence has been shaped by my identity. It surrounds, guides, and limits me, weaving itself throughout my whole way of perceiving the world as an inescapable part of who am. My lived experience is inseparable from my identity, which has made my goals more difficulty and stymied me at every turn. The places I wanted to go would never accept me when they knew who I was. My way of being was alien to them, and they felt it as a threat to their way of being.

    It’s really hard to break into the alt-right as a person of partial Jewish ancestry…”

  96. SFG says:
    @candid_observer

    That was exactly what someone (was it Anton?) wrote on American Mind (I think?) a few months ago. American assimilation is alive and well–we can turn the kids of Chinese princelings, Arabic foreign ministers, and Nigerian physicians into blue-haired, easily triggered, finger-snapping SJWs.

    While alchemists can’t turn lead into gold, it’s apparently not so hard to turn gold into lead with a few protons–lead is quite energetically favored, it’s got a ‘magic number’ of 82 protons. Makes me think of the universities.

  97. CCR says:

    Nail technicians have been wearing face masks since before coronavirus was a thing. They do it to keep from inhaling nail dust all day long.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  98. utu says:

    Toronto April 2003

    THE RACIST FACE OF SARS
    https://archive.macleans.ca/article/2003/4/14/the-racist-face-of-sars

    Arguments: Adolf Hitler and his Nazi party…the Nazis felt…the purity of the Aryan “race.” Under Hitler’s 1933 eugenics law…The Nazis are largely gone…

    Conclusion: The perception is that SARS is contained to one group of people. It should be remembered that pathogens know no race or creed. …SARS is more than a test of our science: it is also, increasingly, a test of our values as a people.

  99. I wouldn’t call on this story but I would see her and raise with two orders of dim sum. It just sounds too cute and perfect to have happened anywhere but in the author’s feverish imagination.

  100. Charon says:
    @Lot

    That was supposed to be AGREE!

    • Replies: @Dissident
  101. Mr. Anon says:

    I’m Chinese. That Doesn’t Mean I Have Coronavirus.
    “If you’re scared of me, get up and leave.”

    By Celine Tien
    Ms. Tien is an entrepreneur Dragon Lady.

    By the way, that Jungle-Asian / Fancy-Asian thing seems to originate with the stand-up comic Ali Wong, who is funnier than the typical stand-up comic one sees nowadays, although she’s occasionally rather too crude.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  102. As Fred C Dobbs has an exceptionally clear crystal ball…

    Celine in the not-too-distant future meets a handsome young man afflicted with a raging case of Yellow Fever……and that young man then embarks upon the most miserable period of his life.

    • Replies: @Alden
  103. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus

    Sailer’s Iron Rule of Femme Fatalism in action! A sardonic, prototypical Alt Right piece in which a male author offers “staccato grievance commentary”™ about some obscure female writer’s vignette as “proof” of the widespread influence of an Ivory Tower concept.

    Yeah, that’s how I know when someone is obscure – when they’re published in the New York Times.

    Idiot.

    Steve’s commentary on this article was funny. Your commentary isn’t funny. Your commentary is stupid and unfunny, just as you yourself are.

    • Agree: SOL, Charon
  104. anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    More examples of the spread of the virus in NYS and NYC being mediated through Orthodox Jewish networks.

    How did it get into the NYC Orthodox community? Jews love of Chinese food?

    • Replies: @anon
  105. @candid_observer

    “married to a woman from China whose parents also now live near them in the US”

    Wow, who could have seen that one coming.

    • Replies: @Altai
  106. Clyde says:
    @Corvinus

    Shut up superannuated retard. Don’t you have a corona virus cruise to nowhere at the docks waiting/

    • Troll: Corvinus
  107. Anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:

    Look the bitch admitted she came back from china in january!

    Right there I would’ve tied her up in those kinky ropes they show on certain Asian websites.

    Let’s see what else she admits to after a weekend of ropey interrogation.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  108. Clyde says:

    For at least two weeks I have been reading that Chinatown Manhattan restaurants are empty and that you can bowl down the streets. Last Sunday the usual ChiCom buffet looked 1/3 down in attendance. We skipped today.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  109. Alden says:
    @Fred C Dobbs

    They will have 3 children. The 2 girls will look just like their tall, blue eyed, very fair skinned light brown curly haired Dad. The youngest, a boy will look very Asian.

    Celine will thus have a lifetime supply of articles bemoaning her angst about the appearance of her children.

  110. “If you’re scared of me, get up and leave.”

    OK!

  111. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Obviously the kid is using the word race to mean species; not sure why. I guess the indoctrination is successful enough to cement the phrase “human race” so that any concept of diversity of Homo Sapiens is verboten.

  112. Altai says:
    @ChrisZ

    In a couple months the number of people who haven’t been infected might be outnumbered by those who have.

    The reality to all this is that people are obviously more wary since the odds of a person of recent Chinese ancestry having connections and close contact with those recently in China is a hell of a lot higher. Nobody thinks Chinese people are congenitally infected. The reality is that Chinese like Indians are insecure about their status and thus more annoying in their neurotic response to any perceived slight to their status. But look on the bright side, it’s only 20-30 years before they stop being like this.

  113. @El Dato

    There is a west coast real estate agent named Corona Chan. I don’t know if her name has hurt her business lately.

  114. Lurker says:
    @Jimi

    Is there anyone brave enough to tell these people that they need to let go of their ancestral ethnic grudges and assimilate?

    Is there anyone brave enough to tell these people that they need to go?

  115. SFG says:
    @RichardTaylor

    The one who was taunting white people about being goblins (Sarah Jeong)?

    Weiss is interesting mostly because she’s actually fairly right-wing for her background–she’s criticized cancel culture and #MeToo, for instance. Still way too pro-immigration for my tastes. Basically they picked her out because she can please the older breed of Times reader that still believes in balance (liberals over 40, more or less) without making them read anything (criticism of immigration, for instance) that might make them cancel their subscription. Bret Stephens is a similar case.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @RichardTaylor
  116. Michael S says:

    Actually, it does. Literally every single Chinese person across the globe and at any point in time has SARS2 and is going to pass it on to 500 other people unless we lock them in their homes and cover the houses with bricks, starting today. In fact, we might as well just get it over with and empty the United States’s entire nuclear arsenal on China right now, right after deporting everyone who is more than 1/4 Chinese.

    Is that what you want to hear, Celine? Because that’s the argument you’re criticizing.

  117. El Dato says:

    So how about the airplanes?

  118. Tony says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    I read the article. I expected the murderers to be fellow Viets. It appears they were white guys even though race is not mentioned and no pictures of the suspects were shown.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  119. Altai says:
    @SFG

    There are plenty of Jewish commentators who are very pro-immigration and very anti-SJW culture for the same highly ethnocentric motivations. They know elements of it pose a danger potentially to Zionism and the Israel lobby. I mean it’s the blindly obvious cause that goes remarkably undermentioned in the social media sphere of the bourgeois millennial/gen z white women who seem able to drive anything to un-ignorable status in the media.

    Imagine if one day every news room had it’s editors have to answer questions of the morality of Israeli policies? Or why they have gotten progressively less coverage in recent years or why you’re not allowed to discuss it as freely as you can almost any other issue.

  120. Wilkey says:

    Most of these ridiculous NYT guest columns seem to be written by attractive young women of quasi-color with nothing novel to say and no real talent for writing. Their key attributes seem to be 1) attractive and 2) desperate for fame. Which tells me that somewhere at New York Times headquarters there’s an Op-Ed writers casting couch and a few #MeToo stories ripe for the telling.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  121. @jsm

    An hour stolen from the morning and given to the afternoo

    n

    Don’t you just hate those long, drawn-out summer afternoons?

    The hours are simply renamed. Everybody, put the pitchforks back. It’s a small price for living in the white man’s latitudes.

    February 30 Was a Real Date

    Calendar for Year 1712 (Sweden)

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Mr McKenna
  122. Pericles says:
    @Jimi

    Likewise, Sweden now hosts a number of Yugoslavian crime gangs (they were imported when there still was a Yugoslavia).

    A while ago I saw an ex-Yugoslavian crime movie on Swedish TV where the goons were discussing laying low in Sweden for a while. It felt … kind of meta?

  123. El Dato says:
    @Mr. Anon

    “If you’re scared of me, get up and leave.”

    Albert Camus.
    “The Plague”, 1947.

    Also, Camus revival in Japan!

    Albert Camus’ ‘Plague’ novel goes big in Japan thanks to coronavirus

  124. “Santa Monica restaurants are of course notorious for the heaviness of their cuisine.”

    The bill the stick-figure women pay for their lunch is quite heavy.

  125. @black sea

    Time for an eye exam.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  126. @Reg Cæsar

    Any hope of redirecting the Mars Rover to the cave where the giant crab-like monster hangs out? It’s pretty cool. See what you can do.

  127. @Quebecer

    fairly hot young lady

    Uh … no.

    I haven’t spent a lot of time in Quebec, but i don’t remember the folks there having some weird sub-normal appearance where an obviously average looking–if not outright “plain” girl–would be “fairly hot”.

  128. @jsm

    We change our clocks so that businesses, stores, government offices, schools, etc. etc. don’t have to change their hours, but we can still take advantage of the extra light in the summer.

    It may appeal to you … it may not.

    But it is not anything to get excited about.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    , @Realist
  129. Talk about Resting Bitch Face. Yikes!

  130. anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:

    “You know, we are scared of you Chinese people,” she said loudly, because you eat “weird” food “and bring it here.

    Didn’t happen. Vietnamese eat the same weird things and then some, like unhatched chicks. A Vietnamese and a Chinese talking about weird food would get excited discussing the best ways to prepare and eat it, and whether it enhances male libido and stamina.

    Chinese people, I don’t like you, you are so bad, so bad and so gross.

    Yep, manicurist totally said this to her customer before proceeding to do her nails.

    BTW, the spelling “Tien” suggests that her family had the money to flee mainland China for Taiwan in 1949 and her parents later moved on to the U.S. where they were graciously received as immigrants. Her connection with mainland China and Taiwan is basically non-existent, hence the appearance of the “family friend whose mother, a doctor, flew from Guangdong Province to Wuhan.”

    • Agree: Change that Matters
  131. Hail says: • Website
    @Corn

    I started to notice twenty years ago when a white American spoke of “my people” they meant Americans.

    When non-whites speak of “my people” they mean anything but that.

    I have used the term “my people,” ironically and in mixed company, to refer to basically White Middle America, and got confronted on it. (‘Ironically’ because one seldom hears whites say it; I don’t really even here it in the general sense of “all Americans.” I just don’t hear it ever.)

    Confronted on it by someone I was on very good terms with, too, before and after. It was a self-consciously ironic use but the person, who was Jewish, was still ‘triggered’ enough to step in and police that statement, as if to say, “People like you can’t use that! That’s for us, and others, not you! Come on.” (communicated indirectly).

  132. @RichardTaylor

    That reminds me,they had Liz Warren on SNL last night. Such bullshit.

  133. @AnotherDad

    Funny,thats how I feel about most Asian girls…

  134. Hail says: • Website
    @The Alarmist

    BTW, the name Celine Tien has a sort of musical quality to it.

    Doesn’t ‘Tien’ mean “heaven” in Chinese?

    Very convenient for ‘Celine’!

  135. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    I’ve always maintained that the chinese have some kind of emotional asperger’s going on. While they will earnestly attempt to participate in western culture, they always generate behavior that’s spectacularly tone deaf, often with unintended comedic results.

    In this case, it’s the young, beautiful, aggrieved minority, posing forlornly in front of her Tesla.

    Somebody give this poor asian girl a free supercharge. 😢

  136. Hail says: • Website
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Are you saying CELINE TIEN is —

    gasp

    gasp

    Privileged?

  137. @Tony

    There were very few Viet males in the UK 20 years ago to kill pensioners and set alight to their houses.

  138. El Dato says:

    Meanwhile, in the UK:

    NHS distributes ‘inclusive’ leaflet about smear tests for transgender men, forgets to mention women

    A leaflet created by Public Health England for the NHS presented specific instructions for transgender women who are invited to take part in smear tests, but don’t have a cervix and transgender men who do have one. There was no mention of just women – biological females who are encouraged to get the test every three to five years to avoid cancer.

    “If you are registered as male you will not receive invitations, but your GP or practice nurse can arrange an appointment for you if you have a cervix. If you are a trans woman you do not need a cervical screening,” the leaflet also reads, according to the Sunday Times.

    After the blunder was noticed, it was amended to say, “Cervical screening is for women and people with a cervix.”

    Public Health England (PHE) has defended the leaflet and said the wording is in the name of “inclusivity.”

    After a brief attack of nausea, I was wondering how “women and people with a cervix” could be advantageously named. The “cervixen”?

  139. Forbes says:
    @mmack

    Why bother waiting for the future–we’re experiencing it now…

  140. Forbes says:
    @ChrisZ

    It would serve her right.

  141. Lot says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Her type isn’t rare in California.

    She got money from Dad and used to to hire an Indian to write an app, and then hire a lawyer to incorporate.

    This lets her call herself a “founder” rather than a instagram addict-thot.

    Those three doctor dudea were probably paid $5,000 to use their likeness and “consult.” And why not?

    Her app is one of dozens of highly similar ones, many done by talented coders as a free little side project in their spare time. That’s why hers is free but nobody uses it.

    There’s a funny old blog that has nothing but ads by b-school students who can’t code but want to be a “tech founder” looking for coder coolies who will accept worthless “equity” or absurdly low pay.

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
  142. anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Doesn’t ‘Tien’ mean “heaven” in Chinese?

    That’s when you pronounce it with a different, level tone.

    Her name is pronounced with a rising tone and means “field.” In other words, the Tiens come from good Chinese kulak stock.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  143. Jack D says:
    @kihowi

    That didn’t happen. Vietnamese eat things that are equally weird and don’t regard the Chinese diet as strange. She’s putting imaginary white people words in the nail tech’s mouth.

    • Agree: Malcolm X-Lax
    • Replies: @Lot
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  144. @Steve Sailer

    “Y’all Chanaze?”
    As he leaned in,all I could see was a mop of blonde hair and his blue eyes above the mask. The odor of Jack Daniels and cigarettes assaulted my senses. I recoiled,which is OK because he was a white devil,not a pretty Chinese girl.
    “Ah hear y’all Chanaze got the sickness! An y’all eat weird food,food it aint proper lahk ta eat.”
    He was holding my hands.
    I flashed back to 3rd grade and my best friend,Becky White. I thought Becky,blonde haired and blue eyed,was everything I wanted to be…but never could. As the only Asian in my class,I felt the pain of being The Other.
    Becky leaned in to whisper in my ear. Oddly,the odor of Jack Daniels and cigarettes assaulted my senses.
    “I can’t play with you anymore. My mother said you’re Chinese and Chinese have diseases like bird flue and eat weird food.”
    The technician squeezed my hand.
    “Y’all been ta Chana lately?”
    My anger rose. They call me the pit bull. And with that,I felt something else. A slickness between my soft thighs…

  145. Peterike says:

    Girl shows lots of skin on her Instagram. I bet she only dates white guys.

  146. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    For me it is 17 Ventôse, year 228 of the revolutionary calendar.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  147. Forbes says:
    @Jack Armstrong

    1903: Polo is established at Yale.

    As the oldest team sport at Yale, and one of the oldest collegiate polo programs in the United States. Prior to 2009, Yale’s polo program and its 60+ ponies were housed in the Yale Armory, where for nearly a century polo players competed in its regulation-size indoor arena and, once upon a time, on the adjacent intramural fields. The Armory was constructed in 1916, and was first used as a cavalry training center during World War I before becoming home to polo at Yale.
    https://yalepolo.wixsite.com/yalepoloteam/history-of-yale-polo

    (Jeez, the above paragraph had two misspellings!)

  148. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    Viets eat “strange” shellfish and organ meats, but it isn’t trendy there to have exotic animals like bat, pangolin, etc for the heck of it.

    The only even semi-exotic meat was frog legs and snails which they got from their old French colonial masters. I didn’t even see insects like in Thailand.

    In general the nicer places in Vietnam try to be more French.

  149. @Justvisiting

    For those who haven’t seen these, there are two “must bookmark” CV data sites:

    US data (the CDC is not releasing data in real time but this geek is doing it):

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18oVRrHj3c183mHmq3m89_163yuYltLNlOmPerQ18E8w/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

    International data:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

  150. Jack D says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Asian girls benefit a lot from makeup. If you see one with and without makeup sometimes it’s hard to believe that it is the same person.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  151. JimB says:
    @Steve Sailer

    White people are still to blame. Tippi Hedren told the Vietnamese manicurist not to trust Chinese customers, because they will open up a shop next door and try to steal her business.

  152. @Lot

    For me it is 17 Ventôse, year 228 of the revolutionary calendar.

    We celebrated Rossini’s 55th birthday at the end of last month. He’s younger than Steve, and always will be now.

  153. George says:

    One more reason to be suspicious of immigration is old world animosities like but not limited to Vietnamese vs Chinese manifesting themselves in the US. If you want to be peeved by Vietnamese move back to China.

  154. @Lot

    Viets eat “strange” shellfish and organ meats, but it isn’t trendy there to have exotic animals like bat, pangolin, etc for the heck of it.

    My impression is that these things aren’t consumed for Jackass-type thrills, or even for sheer novelty value:

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/reference/traditional-chinese-medicine/

  155. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Somehow, a young hot asian girl in a working environment of horny middle-aged Jewish men at the NYT makes me feel like she’s going to do just fine in life, alto pouch she might have to used her sharp little Chinese elbows to get a place at the victimization table.

    Flashback:

    Nihilist Jew’s Sarah Silverman and Bill Maher attempt to make a racial industrial complex newbie know his place:

  156. @Jack D

    Asian girls benefit a lot from makeup. If you see one with and without makeup sometimes it’s hard to believe that it is the same person.

    I think women in general look better with make-up on, and Hollywood make-up artists are miracle-workers. I can only speak for the one time I came within several feet of Uma Thurman. If it weren’t for the gaggle of fans around her, I would have to look closely to tell that this was the glamor girl from her movies. And this was in the 90’s, when she was at the peak of her career.

    My impression is that Oriental women look worse with makeup. Too many cake it on – I wouldn’t say they look like gargoyles, but it’s disconcerting.

    • Replies: @Deckin
  157. donut says:
    @jsm

    https://www.livescience.com/50068-daylight-saving-time-heart-attacks.html

    Michigan is the only state that has studied this phenom but in Sweden it has been noted as well .

  158. @Jack D

    When the South Korean Park Ji-sung was playing soccer for Manchester United, only ten years back, opposing supporters would sing (to the tune of Lord Of The Dance):

    Park ! Park ! Whoever you may be,
    They eat dogs in your home country!
    But it could be worse – you could be a Scouse,
    Eating rats in your council house!

  159. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:

    It appears they were white guys even though race is not mentioned and no pictures of the suspects were shown.

    They were poofters. Anal Rape and torture for hours then setting the victim on fire is standard behaviour.
    Unwin is a surname local to North East England.

  160. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey

    Most of these ridiculous NYT guest columns seem to be written by attractive young women of quasi-color with nothing novel to say and no real talent for writing. Their key attributes seem to be 1) attractive and 2) desperate for fame. Which tells me that somewhere at New York Times headquarters there’s an Op-Ed writers casting couch and a few #MeToo stories ripe for the telling.

    Very insightful of you, and absolutely right. It’s the one “secret story” the NYT has yet to publish.

    Their scam is, their well known writers hold “writing seminars,” often out of town, which allows the NYT writer holding the seminar to pick and choose the babes he likes. Like David Lee Roth, they look down from the seminar stage, and pick the ripest female or male fruit. They have a meet and greet after the seminar, get the phone numbers of the better looking “aspiring writer” girls, married or not, and call them to meet individually for drinks in the city. Then, if things work out as usual, they fuck the girls/boys, give them an op ed piece in the NYT, then either carry on the relationship, or move on.

    This shit has been going on for decades at the NYT by some very esteemed writers and editors there. The NYT culture is very perverse and corrupt.

    I knew one gal personally who got caught up in it, and yes, she got a piece published in the NYT. She’d never been published before, anywhere. She wasn’t a professional writer. Because of that, I thought publishing her was pretty bold, but the esteemed writers of the NYT are known to be bold that way.

    The place is a cesspool, in that respect.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Anonymous
  161. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Jews celebrate Christmas at Chinese Restaurants; The outbreak started right after Christmas. QED

  162. This is totally an intra-Asian racial squabble that this hipster yellow chick is blaming on whitey so she can get an article into the NY Times.

    In many of the Wayans’ brothers parody movies (mostly directed by Keenan Ivory Wayans), there are often jokes about how Asians are extremely racist. Presumably, this is the Wayans’ brothers playing to the black ghetto part of their audiences, since whites think they are the only racists.

    Here’s an extremely funny example depicting this, where the Wayans brothers go into an Asian-owned convenience store:

  163. syonredux says:

    the awareness of my being the only Chinese person sat heavier in my gut than anything I ate at lunch.

    Kudos for not saying that you felt as though you had been punched in the gut….That one’s been done to death by the WOKE…..

  164. Alden says:

    All you guys will enjoy knowing what happened to the Women’s Month March in Pakistan. The Men of Pakistan gathered a mob threw stones at the women’s march.

  165. @El Dato

    Admit it.

    We will all laugh if this chick gets the virus.

  166. @Hail

    Her family name is 田 – a different Tian. This one means field.

  167. SFG says:
    @candid_observer

    Though, to be fair, these are the people who practiced martial arts that were supposed to protect them from bullets and a few decades later sent everyone to the countryside and tried to smelt iron in backyard furnaces, resulting in the largest famine in history. Every culture has its crazy period. We are going through one of ours.

  168. Lot says:

    CV/Financial Panic

    Italy death toll increases 57% in a single day, 10% of total confirmed CV deaths since the outbreak. Lower share in reality due to severe Chinese and Iranian underreporting though.

    Milan’s airport closing tomorrow, 25% of nation under quarantine with no travel in or out of zones.

    Futures point to 4.4% drop in US stock market at open, largest opening drop I believe since the 9-11 reopening.

    Oil drops 30%, $34 for brent and $30 for WTI. Probably the largest drop ever.

    Kirkland nursing home has had 26 of its 120 residents as of 2/19 die. Expected deaths over 3 weeks normally would be ~5 as it is an acute care facility. In other words of the 11 deaths there not blamed on CV, about 6 of them should be, and testing them would increase the official US death toll from 21 to 27.

  169. Corvinus says:
    @Alfa158

    “She’s clearly less obscure than Steve Sailer; she is published in “the newspaper of record”, and Steve isn’t.”

    She’s obscure to normies who do not read the NYT. And just because she is published, it does not mean she is read by those who subscribe to that publication or read it.

    “It isn’t Steve’s fault that they keep lobbing these bloopers right over the middle of the plate so he can smack them into the stands.”

    Bloopers according to Who/Whom?

  170. “I’m Chinese. That Doesn’t Mean I Have Coronavirus.”

    It also doesn’t mean that you don’t have it, either.

  171. @International Jew

    ‘I give her credit for reporting that the offender was Vietnamese. She could have invented a white person for that role…’

    In a Southern California nail salon? The story had to be kept credible.

    As it is, the whole enlightenment and reconciliation scene is a bit mawkish and contrived. I seriously doubt that bit happened — it was merely necessary lest Vietnamese appear to be part of the target.

  172. @SFG

    Basically they picked her out [Bari Weiss] because she can please the older breed of Times reader

    That’s a good point. That must be why she’s out in public so much compared to the others. But interestingly, her and guys like Bret Stephens don’t seem to be driving the train anymore. The diverse radicals they brought on, who I assume were supposed to be window dressing, are increasingly driving things.

    • Replies: @SFG
  173. She is so busted. I googled “Chinese” and “hygiene problems”; although 101,000 hits came back, I found nothing since the onset of Coronavirus. The most recent headline in Google News or story in the regular Google section was from March 2019. Most stories were from 2017-2019, and were about a Chinese restaurant chain. 

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  174. @syonredux

    “the awareness of being the only Chinese person sat heavier in my gut”

    …Aaaand, the only thing that can make my gut feel better is to bring lots more Chinese people to America, to make me feel less lonely. I’ll need lots and lots and lots and LOTS more Chinese people here, to help me feel at ease. Also to take all remaining spots at Stanford, Cal, UCLA, UCI, Harvard and Princeton. Also Exeter, Andover, Deerfield, Dalton, Stuyvesant, you get the idea. The gweilos can keep UC Riverside. Or they can give it to the Mexicans, not our problem.

  175. @Corvinus

    lol. Our personal paid media matters torll is back, and he’s not backing down until Mr. Soros tells him to!

    I do love his pathetic attempts to derail or attack the conversation. So laughable! He’s so bad at his job, its a wonder he gets a paycheck at all.

  176. @Nicholas Stix

    lol. Was this the same Google search that proved to you that “all Bloomberg does is win”?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  177. Jack D says:

    The next morning, my mother, two friends and I gathered in a circle with the entire salon staff of Asian women.

    Another thing that didn’t happen, unless maybe her mom agreed to pay for all of their time. Nail salon no makee money sit in conscious raise session. What does she think this is – Google? These people left Vietnam so they could GET AWAY from re-education camps.

    I realize it is op-ed but does the NYT do fact checking any more? Couldn’t they have asked for the name of the salon and spoken to the owner to confirm that this really happened? Or it is like nooses on college campuses – some stories are too good to check?

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @anonymous
  178. Anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:

    Off-topic, but important: Neil DeGrasse Tyson drops a bomb in Sway’s podcast at Shade 45(Eminem’s radio) regarding the heritability of intelligence:

    “People are in denial about this. We have no problem saying: “Oh, your kid looks like you, has your height and resembles you. But when it comes to things like ambition, or how smart you are, people don’t like to talk about it possibly being inherited. Because in a free Society, people don’t want anything external to their control to be limiting their ambitions. ”

    Of course, he follows that with a severe criticism of IQ tests, which I actually agree with to a large extent: no one truly has every defined what intelligence is, and the “experts” like Eysenck, Wechsler, Terman, Binet and Spearman couldn’t even agree on a definition. Also, believing that a test that measure skills that were not even relevant throughout most of human history, like rotating objects in your mind and completing number sequences, and which even today merely correlates with certain skills needed in the narrow field of academia, as the end-all-be-all of intelligence is outrageous. The argument that this is not a measure of intelligence is also evident in that many men who excel at these IQ tests have severe cognitive and social disabilities to the point they cannot survive in the World without assistance. We all know the “gifted” engineer with the IQ of 130 that cannot survive with his parents pushing 40, or the creative writer with the equally high IQ that obsesss over the same few themes over and over and has been committed to psychiatric institutions multiple times.

    A better definition of intelligence, which also fits Darwinian theory, and is much more complete and encompassing is that intelligence is the ability to survive in your environment. Going by that definition, the most intelligent people would be exceptional criminals like Sulla, Lenin, Genghis Khan and Napoleon. Concessions must be made to people like Newton and DaVinci. But even though their intelligence was very high, it was also fairly narrow. Newton would be exceptional at surviving at an environment where the laws of phsyics constantly switch, but since these laws are stable over at least billions of years, his intelligence is fairly narrow in usefullness. But it is extremely useful to discover these laws at least once, so he was very intelligent but in a narrow way. Here would be my definition of intelligence:

    “Intelligence is the ability to manipulate your environment to your advantage.”

    Here is the interview with DeGrasse Tyson. He talks about the heritiability of intelligence at 5:50:

  179. nebulafox says:
    @Lot

    Organs are common all over the region, even in squeaky clean Singapore. It’s not bad eating, either. “Exotic” meats are another story. I’ve found it is usually a regional thing. In Indonesia, fruit bat and related weird stuff is common in the outer islands, but since it isn’t halal, you’ll get much tamer versions in the Javanese big cities.

    Even within China, there’s differences in degree on this kind of thing: the Cantonese in particular have a stereotype as “exotic” eaters.

  180. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    In my few visits to Manhattan’s Chinatown I noticed that many of the residents have a nasty habit of hawking up and spitting on the sidewalk, even if other people are walking near. I assume that these are “right off the boat” types who have not yet learned Western ways, but even so…these days, such behavior would certainly keep me the hell out, at least until the Coronavirus has run its course.

  181. Lot says:
    @Jack D

    Could be a lie, but nail salons violate a lot of labor, immigration, and worker safety laws. Avoiding trouble when Dragon Mother got involved is plausible.

    As for fact checking, libels on whites are never fact checked. Prole Viet ladies I guess are honorary whites.

    More certain to be lies:

    “left me shaky for the rest of the day”

    “by nighttime, my anger had melted away to tears, leaving me collapsed”

    That women writers formulaically recount their emotions, often lying, is one reason they tend to be bad writers.

  182. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The Times has descended to the level of Newsday or the old Village Voice.
    Unfortunate…it was a great paper in prior years. The Sunday edition, in particular, was a real treat to a reading Boomer like me.

    Was.

  183. J.Ross says:

    Can’t believe that Jack Dorsey felt the need to post an anti-Semitic tweet for Interparanational Nakba Day: “Not today, Jews.” You’d think there’d be more flak.

  184. Then I ripped off her mask and sneezed in her face.

    How do you say dindu nuthin in Mandarin?

  185. @Hail

    If you see someone like me being harassed or attacked, step in. Say something.

    What if it’s not someone like you? What if it’s a white person having his head bashed in on the sidewalk? Just kidding.

  186. Pegasus says:

    She’s just an upper class Chinese snowflake. And look at her instagram. She wanted to be a model also. Oh but she’s a CEO… has an iphone only app called Flowly for “pain and anxiety relief”… with 4 reviews. All fake. Do not try to find it in the app store. You gotta go first to the website.

    Pretty pathetic to spin the whole thing as Racism and Discrimination in America, when to anyone with half a brain it is nothing more than a Chinese upper class spoiled brat (Yale) crying and throwing a tantrum in the NYT because she was treated and made to feel like an untouchable by a bottom of the barrel Vietnamese working in a nail parlor.

    It’s pure click bait. Urbanite snowflakes love this nothingburger stories. It also means the NYT is slowly downgrading and becoming a pedestrian content farm. A mix between Thought Catalog and Buzzfeed. Good.

    The funny thing is she seems to genuinely be suffering from some mild form of PTSD after the “traumatic” experience. Gotta love them snowflakes.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  187. @Reg Cæsar

    Thank you sir. As if the sun knows or cares what humans’ clocks say!

  188. @Anon

    The young lady has smartly realized that, given current trends there is no value in celebrating her British heritage and there is tons of money to be made as an ‘oppressed,’ South Asian racial grifter.

    She’s playing her cards quite well so far.

  189. @Hail

    Confronted on it by someone I was on very good terms with, too, before and after. It was a self-consciously ironic use but the person, who was Jewish, was still ‘triggered’ enough to step in and police that statement, as if to say, “People like you can’t use that! That’s for us, and others, not you! Come on.” (communicated indirectly).

    Core minoritarian thinking.

    It’s golfocaust logic:
    — Our golf clubs are virtuous ethnic solidarity.
    — Your golf clubs are … anti-Semitism!

    Ethnic pride, ethnic solidarity for me, but not for thee.

    I don’t know why anyone is conned by the verbal bilge from these creeps.

    • Replies: @Morris Applebaum IV
  190. The NYT is beyond parody at this point, the inmates are truly running the asylum, this stuff reads like Onion in 2005.

  191. @Just Passing Through

    Of course. Chinese people see blacks as dangerous and unpredictable, but certainly not the remotest threat to their world domination.

  192. The manager, who had been listening nearby, ran over to intervene. When I looked up, I realized everyone in the salon had been listening. I turned to the woman on my right, then to the other workers who were to my left. Each person I turned to looked away. The room was silent.

    The manager made my nail technician leave and apologized quietly, offering a free manicure. I bit my lips to stop the trembling.

    Aaaand…scene!

  193. @Thea

    Nail salons are notorious sources of disease. A local one was responsible for spreading hep c. Can’t understand why anyone goes to them. Doing your own nails is cheaper and safer.

    The whole nail thing is weird girl thing.

    Most of the fashion things girls obsess over–hair, clothes, makeup– while they can take some bizarre wrong turns, are at least things take can, done right, make girls appear more attractive than they are and catch more male attention.

    I consider myself–sample size one–pretty much a normative hetero guy. I’ve never cared or had any interest in a gals nails. I see them. My daughters and their friends have at various times turned their nails various shades. But they just don’t “do” much–basically anything–for a gal’s attractiveness. If they actually “pop” in any significant way it’s almost always negatively (and often a black gal overdoing it).

    Nails are just pretty much the very last thing in affecting female attractiveness. If a gal wants to play with them for fun … have at it. Why anyone would waste money on them is beyond me.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @nebulafox
    , @Thea
  194. anonguy says:
    @Coag

    In the late 70s Marines on ops in various NATO countries would routinely be asked by locals if it were true that all US Marines were convicted murderers.

    Very common, it was a Soviet propaganda thing.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  195. @Altai

    I lived in Far Rock for three years (1994-1997), and still go there periodically to get my taxes done and see one of my doctors. The Orthodox are almost all concentrated on one street, Beach 9th. The area is otherwise lousy with anti-Semitic, racist blacks who periodically attack them (e.g., slashing the men in the back).

    I was there to see my doctor in November 2012, two weeks after Hurricane Sandy hit, and she barely glanced the area. There was some wind damage to a fence outside a daycare center, but nothing else to be seen. A Northern Triangle (there’s a Salvadoran group there since the 1980s’ civil war) waitress at a Central American restaurant told me that the only problem had been a couple of days without electricity. The real damage was from the mixed middle (Beach 95th-Beach 100th Street, up to the white West End, where I live, up as high as segregated, locked-up Breezy Point (Beach 170s?), which lost over 100 homes to wind-driven fires.

    The Orthodox try and limit outside knowledge of the horrific black anti-Semitism and racism. In the mid-to-late 2000s, a Jew got a letter published in the Rockaway weekly, The Wave, complaining about the blacks, but he was immediately denounced by at least one other Orthodox reader.

    I couldn’t understand why he got denounced for telling the truth about their suffering, and why the second correspondent told outrageous lies extolling black-Jewish comity. But then I met a lovely Orthodox grandmother in the spring of 2010 who explained it all, in terms Steve would understand all too well.

    We were both admiring a very old but beautiful American luxury car with a for-sale sign on it, parked alongside my son’s elementary school playground. She said she was considering buying it for her daughter-in-law. In the course of our conversation, when I mentioned the letters exchange in The Wave, she said it was all about real estate values. If the truth had gotten out, housing prices would have tanked.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  196. @Corvinus

    “According to Who/Whom.”

    Great rebuttal, Socrates.

    If you think this drek is anything but a blooper, then you’re sillier than you come across in most of your comments. Her implausible story, coupled with her overwrought tale of suffering an emotional breakdown, make this woman’s op-ed self-evidently ridiculous.

    But here’s the most important point, so pay attention: This is not picking on what some 13 year old girl wrote in her diary. This is an op-ed in one of the most influential and widely circulated news sources in the world. She had time to reflect on what she wrote and the editors of the Times must’ve thought the thing had some merit. You might actually have a point if this was the Glenbrook North High School Torch, but it’s the freakin’ New York Times.

    You seem to be admitting it’s a pretty stupid piece and most certainly full of lies or at least exaggerations by saying, “nobody reads this stuff or takes it seriously so Steve is taking the low road by bringing stuff like this to our attention.” You’re awfully touchy about something allegedly so trifling.

    And this is “according to me” and everybody else who reads this blog.

    Tell us why, “according to you,” we are wrong in mocking this rubbish instead of just typing, “According to whom?” or “What are you going to do about it?”

    Go on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Corvinus
  197. SFG says:
    @RichardTaylor

    Thanks! Yeah, I don’t think we would have seen a ‘1619 project’ a few years ago. The older batch of liberals just didn’t hate America that much–they wanted to improve it, purify it, etc. Of course they were the ones who put these radical types in charge. There was that brouhaha a while back where the management wanted to report (correctly) that Trump had denounced racism after the El Paso shooting and the reporters didn’t want to because it wasn’t radical enough.

    Ironically if you look at the op-ed page it actually represents an elite liberal’s idea of intellectual diversity: they have Bari Weiss as a centrist, Bret Stephens as a quasi-neocon, Ross Douthat as a quasi-paleocon, and the usual array of liberals–David Brooks (centrist), Thomas Friedman (globalist neoliberal), Thomas Edsall (old-school liberal), Paul Krugman (economic liberal), Frank Bruni (gay), Jamelle Bouie (black), Charles Blow (black+gay), Michelle Goldberg (feminist). It’s kind of like a sampling of the whole American political spectrum, but shifted toward elite liberalism.

    Unz actually kind of tries to do the same thing, including a variety of nationalist contributors around the world with offsetting people on the borders of the alt-right like immigration-skeptic neocons (Prager comes to mind) and left-wing antiestablishment types.

  198. Jack D says:
    @Lot

    The nicer places in Vietnam try to be more French.

    Certain French items have worked their way into the regular Vietnamese diet in somewhat adapted but still recognizable form (baguettes, pate, coffee) but 99% of the population doesn’t eat French food per se.

  199. @Patrick in SC

    There are a huge number of minor web outlets that have lots of clickbait articles of this type. I mostly don’t call attention to them, unless it’s a novel argument that might become influential. I tend to work top down from the New York Times, which since 2014 has become ever more dominant, with large increases in revenue and market share that it’s taking away from old local newspapers.

  200. Neoconned says:
    @Foreign Expert

    As i often say “who cares, shes hot.”

    LET’S TALK ABOUT MY HAIR!!

    Anyway even if she’s telling the truth….it sound more like an intra Asian dispute than something i should be worried about. I guess she’s waiting for some tech white dude zillionaire to marry her or to make her his side broad.

  201. @Steve Sailer

    I tend to work top down from the New York Times, which since 2014 has become ever more dominant, with large increases in revenue and market share that it’s taking away from old local newspapers.

    Demonstrating that we do indeed have an unjust society. The New York Times, toxic-waste bilge pump of America.

  202. M_Young says:

    So this reminded me of ancient iSteve content and whatever happened to the dramatis personae . Like, whatever happened to V Stiviano.

    https://heavy.com/sports/2019/08/v-stiviano/

  203. @Justvisiting

    For those who haven’t seen these, there are two “must bookmark” CV data sites:

    One more.

    https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports

  204. @R.G. Camara

    Tell you what. Remove your dunce cap, repeat my search, post your results, and then you can put your dunce cap back on.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  205. Deckin says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Here’s why:

    Asian women have more 2-dimensional faces in general. So there’s just less of another dimension in which asymmetries can appear. Also, in those two dimensions, they tend to have widely spaced eyes and smallish chins. This gives the pleasing inverted triangularity–make up just needs to accentuate the underlying geometry. Dark eyes to balance bright red lip stick only adds to the effect.

    • Thanks: SOL
  206. @MikeatMikedotMike

    You gotta ask yourself, “Could I wake up every morning and look at that face across the breakfast table?”

  207. SFG says:
    @AnotherDad

    I think the idea is red nails simulate sexual excitement (like rouge and lipstick).

    Growing up all the colors were red or red-adjacent (pink, magenta, maroon). Then the weird colors like blue and green started coming in sometime around the 90s.

    I doubt the ladies understand the car thing either. Men and women are different, who knew?

    • Replies: @Dissident
  208. @J1234

    Driving a lot on America’s interstates recently, I’ve had opportunity to survey how many men wash their hands after standing at urinals at rest stops.

    Answer: roughly half.

    I’ve resolved never to shake hands with other men again. Rude beastards.

  209. Dissident says:
    @Charon

    FYI: It is possible to change a ‘reaction’, e.g., from ‘Disagree’ to ‘Agree’. But doing so appears to count toward the max three per eight-hour period quota.

  210. corona virus is a proven hoax have no idea why unz the jew is pushing is this fake news

  211. Dissident says:
    @SFG

    I think the idea is red nails simulate [sic] sexual excitement (like rouge and lipstick).

    Did you mean to write stimulate?

    At any rate, I note that halakha (Judaic law) prohibits the wearing of red-colored attire. The rationale given is essentially what you have articulated: excessively conspicuous; arousing of gratuitous lust.

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @Kratoklastes
  212. @Anonymous

    Newton lost a ton of money on tulip bulbs, which means something. I’m not exactly sure what it means, but it means something.

  213. nebulafox says:
    @AnotherDad

    I’m sure women would say the same thing about men and cars.

  214. Flowly?

    Sounds like what The Craw[1] would say if he meant “Flowery“.

    [1] Not “The Craw“… “The Craw!!”

  215. epebble says:
    @Coag

    In 1991, a guy I was working with in Southern California didn’t want to go to San Francisco customer site for fear of AIDS. That fear was fairly widespread. I found it strange since I had spent many weeks going there and never thought about it.

  216. SFG says:
    @Dissident

    Simulate, but they also stimulate! They look horny, so you get horny too. That’s the idea anyway.

  217. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    I suspect the Italian habit of greeting a person by kissing both cheeks is spreading Covid-19 very fast in that population. In contrast, German froideur may be helping slow down their spread.

  218. @Dissident

    No, he means ‘simulate‘: red, swollen lips (on the face-mouth or the lady-parts mouth) are signs of arousal.

    So when chicks play colouring-in on their faces, they go outside the lines on purpose when they smear coloured wax on their gobs. Weird, but there you have it.

    Same with (slightly) red cheeks etc: nowadays they use some form of tinted mud, but in the olden olden days women would pinch their own cheeks, or even bite their lips and put a schmeer of blood on their cheeks.

    Also, I vaguely remember something about high heels causing calves to be tensed and anterior pelvic tilt, so as to give the appearance of being prepared for penetration from behind. (Even while standing? Sounds like too much work).

    That last one probably doesn’t depend on the colour of the shoes, though.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
  219. Dissident says:
    @ThreeCranes

    From the February 28th episode of Radio Derb:

    I’ve already seen scattered references on Twitter about how unhygienic it is to shake hands.

    Well, yes, it is.[…]

    We don’t have much common sense in these things, though. I have always wondered why I’m supposed to wash my hands after using the urinal. I take a full shower every morning. At an average moment on an average day, I’m sure there are way more germs on my hands than there are on my generative organ; so it would make more sense to wash the organ after doing the business. I dutifully wash my hands anyway, just in case anyone’s looking.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    , @ThreeCranes
  220. Corn says:
    @J1234

    “As far as reluctance to shake hands goes, I live in a Midwestern state that hasn’t recorded any community transmission yet, and even I don’t shake hands. I’ve skipped church the last couple of weeks, too. How could people in California not be doing the same?”

    I admire the egalitarian spirit of the handshake instead of the elaborate bows and curtseys it replaced, but honestly, from a germ standpoint it’s a terrible greeting.

  221. Lot says:

    Iran’s state-run PressTV runs two different Unz-sourced articles pushing a theory on corona virus.

    You all will never, ever, guess who the Unzers are blaming:

    [MORE]

    the Jews! Well either them or the US military, or both.

    First article is just a reprint of an Unz article by Muslim convert “Dr.” Kevin Barrett:

    “US, Israel waging biological warfare on massive scale”

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/03/07/620357/US,-Israel-waging-biological-warfare-on-massive-scale

    Article 2 is a summary rather than a reprint of Phil Giraldi’s article on Unz.com

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/03/05/620213/Coronavirus-was-produced-in-a-laboratory

    Hate-America websites the world over love covering Giraldi’s brainbarfs because they can cite him as a “former CIA officer,” as is the case here.

    • Replies: @Hail
  222. @CCR

    What the technicians need are industrial strength masks to filter out the toluene and other volatile organic compounds commonly found in nail parlors, not those sad little paper things.

  223. Anon[190] • Disclaimer says:

    After looking it up, Iranians kiss each other on the cheek as a greeting, too.

    Done in by cultural customs!

  224. @Dissident

    Gotta love the Derb!

    • Agree: Hail
  225. @Hail

    And Celine means “heavenly,” from the Latin cælis.

    This chick is a bs artist.

  226. @ThreeCranes

    I agree with John Derbyshire, as you coincidentally discussed this very thing that he mentioned in his “February Diary”. How dirty is your dick? I’m not trying to be a jerk about this, 3-Cranes, but I’ve really wondered why people DO wash. Is it from touching the flush handle, maybe, if it doesn’t have sensors? A lot do just because they don’t want other people to think them rude.

    What’s nasty to think about is what kind of germs are on your shoelaces if you don’t have them tied right.

    BTW, in China I knew someone who would only flush public toilets with her foot! Yeah, she figured they were THAT dirty. That was in China.

  227. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Meh, compared to the white landwhales in the USA she’s fine.

    I’ve given up leering at 18 year old girls here in Washington state, because 70% are either overweight or possessed of strangely masculine facial structures. They simply aren’t as pretty as when I was an undergraduate decades ago, and diet has a lot to do with it.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  228. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer

    When I had a NYT deadtree in the 00s this guest op-ed tended to have a diverse selection of well-written and edited articles by top scientists, social scientists, and business leaders. Sometimes there’d be some lighthearted personal essays by Tom Wolfe-caliber authors.

    That it now is college-application personal-statement essays by woketard young misses illustrates where our society is headed.

    The communist method of marching through the institutions hasn’t slowed one bit under Trump aside from, thankfully, the federal courts and some parts of the exec branch.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  229. She’s probably mad that after she got her manicure for free, she wasn’t entitled to cucumber water – ‘Cucumber water for customer only!’

  230. @Kratoklastes

    “Anterior pelvic tilt” is nice. Declivity of the back (spine) above the pelvis is cool, and a less pronounced proclivity of the tummy is ideal. Ah, to be young again.

  231. The ‘I’m-American-but-still-Chinese’ crowd can’t wait to self-victimize.

    Here’s Jeff Yang, an angry tofu muncher spreading fake news on Twitter: “”Coronavirus related hate crime” is now officially a thing,” he writes, pointing to a New York Post article, which despite its hysterical lede concludes with this:

    “Police sources initially said that the attack was investigated as a possible coronavirus-related hate crime because both men were wearing surgical masks, but officials later said there was “absolutely no nexus between the attack and the Coronavirus.”

    Naturally, some Chinese Twitter thot (Jasmin Malik Chua – “fashion journalist, sustainability nerd, lapsed Singaporean”) chimes in with, “Dear God.” The pain.

    There are a lot like this one; a “lapsed” something or other until all of a sudden they’re not. Put her on a boat back to Singapore, or even better to Pakistan or wherever her husband comes from.

  232. Len says:

  233. @jbwilson24

    Meh, compared to the white landwhales in the USA she’s fine.

    I’ve given up leering at 18 year old girls here in Washington state, because 70% are either overweight or possessed of strangely masculine facial structures. They simply aren’t as pretty as when I was an undergraduate decades ago, and diet has a lot to do with it.

    To me this girl is flat out plain–or at least boringly average. She’s less attractive then the typical Asian girls my kids know. Something is off about her.

    But i’ll grant, that in doing any sort of attractiveness rating now, there are essentially two separate scales.
    — Natural features: what a girl looks like compared to what an average girl of her age naturally looks like; i.e. mentally ignoring all the fats and tats (and weird piercings, weird hair, etc. etc.–excluding those from the N for the sample

    — The sad reality on the ground today: what a girl looks like compared to what girls look like now, where just not being overweight and tatted makes a girl “attractive”

    I realize a big driver is that i’m simply not as horny as an old guy, as i was back then. But the truth is the girls were simply way cuter in the 60s and 70s, …. because they weren’t doing all the stuff girls do now to make themselves ugly. They just looked like … girls. Which is pretty darn nice!

  234. @Achmed E. Newman

    “BTW, in China I knew someone who would only flush public toilets with her foot! Yeah, she figured they were THAT dirty. That was in China.”

    Hey, flushing toilets (depressing/activating the flush handles or levers) by boot isn’t stupid. Well, these days especially 🙂

    I’ve seen some really bad toilets/latrines in my time. People like me don’t know what to do when first presented with holes in the ground and jars of newspaper for TP, but one adapts. Learn to squat on your haunches instead of s(h)itting on a ceramic toilet. Wash as much as possible. God, being ill in some places will make you wish for death.

  235. BTZ1980 says:

    How can someone simultaneously be “from mainland China and Taiwan”?

    Also, 50-year-old Vietnamese manicurists in the U.S. don’t speak that way. Sorry, but they just don’t. These quotes are clearly fabricated.

    • Replies: @Hail
  236. @ThreeCranes

    Like a bunch of blokes of my acquaintance, I view the whole ‘wash your hands after a pee‘ thing as completely retarded.

    It seems like it’s just ignorance plus prudery: people with the cognitive grunt of a 70 year old Methodist spinster, think that dicks are ‘dirty’ and so if you touch one your hands require “cleansing”.

    It makes FAR more sense to wash your hands before you touch your junk – the normal microflora/fauna in the weiner-region is far more benign than those on a person’s hands.

    Unless you have a UTI, there are less bacteria in your urine than there are in tap water (or rainwater for that matter). You would be better of pissing on your hands, than washing them.

    Perhaps it persisted as a public trope for reasons other than pure ignorance: if a mother can get it planted in her kids’ heads, at at least they get the peace of mind that little Johnny will have washed his mitts a couple of times a day.

    Obviously any time I have a gigantic, stinky shit, I wash my hands.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  237. @AnotherDad

    I also find it bewildering how many people are conned by the verbal bilge from creeps.

    I’ve never met a Jew who objected to Irish groups, or Italian, German (okay maybe one or two), Polish, Ukrainian, etc. However, some Jews get irritated by clubs who allow every single white person except Jews. It’s funny how that works.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Anonymous
  238. dr kill says:

    Cool, I don’t know anyone who is from ChiCom, so this young lat can be my special native guide. my burning question is about the proper method for preparing the Intermediate Horseshoe Bat. Would I be looked down upon for hsving my bat grilled or blackened? That boiled bat just looks so wrong.

  239. @Achmed E. Newman

    BTW, in China I knew someone who would only flush public toilets with her foot! Yeah, she figured they were THAT dirty.

    The univeristy I was at in the 1990s was at the forefront of the whole ‘international student’ money-machine. We had loads of Chinese (and Chinese-Malaysian) students.

    In mid-96 on the floor where my office was, we began to notice footprints on the toilet seats. I mentioned this to some of my mates whose offices were on the floor below. They had seen it too.

    Turns out that it was a group of Chinese students who studied together in one of the rooms on the 10th floor (the same floor as my mates’ offices).

    It was their habit to stand on the toilet seat (seat down), and squat to take a shit.

    This was mostly because the the toilets where they were from were what the French call “a l’arabe” (squat toilets – basically a ceramic overlay over a hole in the ground, albeit with a flush mechanism)…

    Given the shocking aim of blokes pissing in public toilets, the ceramic areas of those things is generally absolutely awash with semi-dried piss. Sitting on the toilet seat would be an alien idea, given what would happen if you sat on the ceramic in a squat toilet.

    Those squat toilets are hard on the thighs if you haven’t kept up your mobility: when I was in a detention centre in France in 2007, that was the type of dunny.

    Two years later, same centre… proper sitting-down bogs. DAMMIT… I had gotten in much better shape in the interim, and could hold a deep ‘Asian’ (flat-heel, ass-to-grass) squat for easily long enough.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  240. @Hail

    Sorry that my cousin said that and just want to encourage you to exercise your free speech and use the term “my people” regularly, particularly with your colleagues at work. Remember, it’s your right!

  241. @Steve Sailer

    But how many NYT subscribers will actually read this piece? I doubt all that many.

  242. I’ll bet Ms. Tian would look real hot dressed as Coronachan.

    (Can a white chick dress as Coronachan without being accused of cultural appropriation?)

    Also, given the fact that Coronachan is more dangerous for the elderly, are the Democrats going ahead with their presidential hootenanny this Summer? Imagine: Sanders, Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton, Clinton, Biden and all those other leftist old geezers close-together in a confined space. Coronachan would have a field day.

    • Replies: @Hail
  243. Hail says: • Website
    @Lot

    Press TV headline:

    Coronavirus was produced in a laboratory: Former CIA intel officer

    Dishonest headline. Not sure but I don’t think he actually said that. He echoed others in proposing the possibility, which remains pure speculation.

    I’m just glad they didn’t cite “ex US Navy figure MetallicMan.”

  244. Hail says: • Website
    @BTZ1980

    A lot of commenters have suggested this, and I would agree. But if she were going full-Smollett, pure-fabrication hoax, why not cast the villains as White? It would be easy.

    IOW, what’s the angle of making the villain a Southeast Asian? (Although in the end, after crying over their feelings, they all got along, in racial solidarity, as God intended.)

  245. @Lot

    That it now is college-application personal-statement essays by woketard young misses illustrates where our society is headed.

    Hey, these young ladies are just doing their part to help destroy the Four Olds.

  246. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Faulkner’s definition of Intelligence:

    “…the ability to cope with environment: which means to accept environment yet still retain at least something of personal liberty.”

    “A mule which will gallop for a half-mile in the single direction elected by its rider even one time becomes a neighborhood legend; one that will do it consistently time after time is an incredible phenomenon. Because, unlike a horse, a mule is far too intelligent to break its heart for glory running around the rim of a mile-long saucer. In fact, I rate mules second only to rats in intelligence, the mule followed in order by cats, dogs, and horses last—assuming of course that you accept my definition of intelligence: which is the ability to cope with environment: which means to accept environment yet still retain at least something of personal liberty.

    The rat of course I rate first. He lives in your house without helping you to buy it or build it or repair it or keep the taxes paid; he eats what you eat without helping you raise it or buy it or even haul it into the house; you cannot get rid of him; were he not a cannibal, he would long since have inherited the earth.

    The cat is third, with some of the same qualities but a weaker, punier creature; he neither toils nor spins, he is a parasite on you but he does not love you; he would die, cease to exist, vanish from the earth (I mean, in his so-called domestic form) but so far he has not had to. (There is the fable, Chinese I think, literary I am sure: of a period on earth when the dominant creatures were cats: who after ages of trying to cope with the anguishes of mortality—famine, plague, war, injustice, folly, greed—in a word, civilised government— convened a congress of the wisest cat philosophers to see if anything could be done: who after long deliberation agreed that the dilemma, the problems themselves were insoluble and the only practical solution was to give it up, relinquish, abdicate, by selecting from among the lesser creatures a species, race optimistic enough to believe that the mortal predicament could be solved and ignorant enough never to learn better. Which is why the cat lives with you, is completely dependent on you for food and shelter but lifts no paw for you and loves you not; in a word, why your cat looks at you the way it does.)

    The dog I rate fourth. He is courageous, faithful, monogamous in his devotion; he is your parasite too: his failure (as compared to the cat) is that he will work for you—I mean, willingly, gladly, ape any trick, no matter how silly, just to please you, for a pat on the head; as sound and first-rate a parasite as any, his failure is that he is a sycophant, believing that he has to show gratitude also; he will debase and violate his own dignity for your amusement; he fawns in return for a kick, he will give his life for you in battle and grieve himself to starvation over your bones.

    The horse I rate last. A creature capable of but one idea at a time, his strongest quality is timidity and fear. He can be tricked and cajoled by a child into breaking his limbs or his heart too in running too far too fast or jumping things too wide or hard or high; he will eat himself to death if not guarded like a baby; if he had only one gram of the intelligence of the most backward rat, he would be the rider.

    The mule I rate second. But second only because you can make him work for you. But that too only within his own rigid self-set regulations. He will not permit himself to eat too much. He will draw a wagon or a plow, but he will not run a race. He will not try to jump anything he does not indubitably know beforehand he can jump; he will not enter any place unless he knows of his own knowledge what is on the other side; he will work for you patiently for ten years for the chance to kick you once. In a word, free of the obligations of ancestry and the responsibilities of posterity, he has conquered not only life but death too and hence is immortal; were he to vanish from the earth today, the same chanceful biological combination which produced him yesterday would produce him a thousand years hence, unaltered, unchanged, incorrigible still within the limitations which he himself had proved and tested; still free, still coping.”

  247. Hail says: • Website
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Isn’t the term “Corona-Chan” itself a form of cultural appropriation?

    ‘Chan’ is Japanese, right, and COVID19 is Chinese (in origin) (or, if you prefer, Chinese bat in origin; or, possibly, that weird animal no one had ever heard of, but in any case native to the Chinese interior).

    If any aspiring CELINE TIENs out there are reading, there’s your idea for a new grievance op-ed, gratis, should you accept the challenge and if you have the courage.

    Angle: “Racists hatefully appropriate Japanese culture to racially attack Chinese people.” There’s your clay to be molded into a proper bludgeon against the Designated Common Enemy.

  248. I’m Aimee Mann, one of the most talented bassists and songwriters alive today. This does not mean I am a less talented bassist and songwriter than Geddy Lee and Neil Peart, respectively – veritable gods at what they do.

    The completely valid parallel is valid in this one case because of systemic Racism and Sexism. That is all. I should in no way be relegated to pretending to operate the camera and given a huge boost to my career by their fanbase and their own utter lack of sexism or racism combined with their admiration of my talent and their good will toward me by involving me in the first place….

  249. @Nicholas Stix

    lol. First, tell us all again about how great a campaigner Bloomber is, and how “all Bloomberg does is win.”

  250. @anonguy

    In the late 70s Marines on ops in various NATO countries would routinely be asked by locals if it were true that all US Marines were convicted murderers.

    Very common, it was a Soviet propaganda thing.

    Perhaps Hollywood had prepared their minds already?

  251. @Kratoklastes

    I had gotten in much better shape in the interim, and could hold a deep ‘Asian’ (flat-heel, ass-to-grass) squat for easily long enough.

    Now that I’m in my sixties, I really regret not stretching more, over the decades. It would be nice to be able to do what this guy can do.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  252. Rob says:
    @Altai

    I’ve been meaning to ask this in an appropriate thread, but I’ll ask it now. How smart are the super Jews, ultra-orthodox, chassids, whatever. Are they as bright as reform jews, but just have a retarded culture? Are they smart relative to generic Europeans, or smart whites like Episcopalians? I mean, in the general population IQ and religiosity are not strongly correlated. Especially not for joining or growing up in splintered, fundamentalist sects. Are they under selection for intelligence, even if they’re not smart, are the brighter kids boiling of in adulthood? Are they at least avoiding dysgenic reproduction like whites aren’t?

    There are going to be a lot of them in the future, or at least a lot of people descended from the,. It’d be nice to know if they’re good raw material.

    • Replies: @Kim
  253. MBlanc46 says:
    @Realist

    You don’t like it, move to Arizona.

  254. On the subject of race/ethnicity, it’s extremely annoying that the powers-that-be are asking us to take on faith their assertion that everyone is equally likely to be seriously affected by this bug. This smells of the AIDS era, when we were told that straight people were just as likely to get sick as gays who spent a good chunk of their evenings in bath houses. There are apparently facts about this pathogen’s demographics that we shouldn’t be allowed to have – for our own good, of course.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Bucky
  255. @Johann Ricke

    Okay, but nobody ever heard of this germ before New Year’s Eve. This isn’t like the 100 meter dash in the last 9 Olympics. It currently appears to have run amok in three quite different countries: China, Iran, and Italy. Why would you want to bet your life on the idea that you possess some kind of racial immunity?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  256. Kim says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Why do people wash their hands after pissing? Is that the question?

    1. Because a clean person takes the opportunity to wash his hands when he can throughout the day. Doorknobs, doors, keyboards and mouses, handshaking, eye and nose and mouth touching…

    2. Putting aside suggestion 1, because one’s dick sits all day inside a cotton sack alongside one’s shitty arsehole and the local bacteria migrate to one’s junk.

    But suggestion 1 is enough alone for me. Who cares how much precious soap I use?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    , @Lars Porsena
  257. Kim says:
    @Rob

    It seems to me that any thread at all on this site is suitable for posting a query such as yours. In fact, it may be that most threads here are already devoted to such questions.

  258. @anonymous

    So, would you fund that field worth plowing?

  259. @Anonymous

    My memory is going, I can’t remember which famous author (I thought Bellow but couldn’t find links) expected the pretty Guardian staffer to put out, now I can’t remember which UK author who ran a summer creative writing school on an agreeable Med island got accused of inappropriate behaviour.

    It sounds like a John Fowles short story – famous-ish writer and his overwhelmingly female students holed up in paradise location.

    https://www.chronicle.com/article/Why-Creative-Writing-Programs/242767

    “Students and former students say the male-dominated field, with its intimate workshops and reverence for stars, is particularly conducive to sexual misconduct and predatory behavior.”

    I’m shocked, shocked.

    “I am most proud of sniffing out talent,” Mr. Casey, who is now in his late 70s, was quoted as saying.

    Fnarr fnarr, press F for John Casey.

    https://www.chronicle.com/article/Prominent-Creative-Writing/241861

    I didn’t know Lemony Snicket had been cancelled. Or that she was a fat chap called Handler (fnarr fnarr again).

    https://forward.com/schmooze/395074/multiple-women-accuse-author-lemony-snicket-of-sexual-harassment/

    Or that the plagiarism mill includes papers on sexual harassment.

    https://gradesfixer.com/free-essay-examples/sexual-harassment/

  260. Realist says:
    @AnotherDad

    … but we can still take advantage of the extra light in the summer.

    There is no extra light.

  261. Bucky says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Except that gay susceptibility to AIDS was not due to genetics so much as it was behavior. You could argue that gays are “born that way” but that was just a factor in the creation of the behavior.

    Your logic is akin to the argument that ending the drug war will reduce black crime. Blacks are not genetically or culturally predisposed to drugs; they enter the drug trade due to their SES.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  262. Realist says:
    @jsm

    I know you’re joking, but this drives me nuts, because there are idiots out there who think that’s what really happens.

    I posted it tongue in cheek.

  263. @Steve Sailer

    It currently appears to have run amok in three quite different countries: China, Iran, and Italy.

    China is Iran’s principal trading partner. Huawei’s founder’s daughter, under indictment in Canada, is just the highest profile Chinese in regard to this illicit commercial relationship – the fish undoubtedly rots all the way down. Another way of putting this? There might be a significant Chinese community in Iran that is the principal victim of this bug locally.

    Whereas we know there is a significant Chinese community in the area of Italy currently affected by COVID-19. They apparently started showing up in the 90’s, as cheap labor shuttled in to cut costs while keeping the valuable “Made in Italy” label. The question remains – how much of the Italian body count consists of these residents?

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany

    It’s a matter of record that the Chinese have been dining on the critters whence this bug emerged, for thousands of years. In theory, their forebears should have been exposed to weaker variants of this given pathogen over the centuries, meaning natural selection should have done its work in eliminating genetic lines prone to serious illness, up to and including death.

    While it’s counter-intuitive that a region long exposed to this virus should be impacted to a greater extent than other regions, it would be nice to know whether the rampant speculation in regard to ACE-2 receptors, i.e. that non-Orientals are somehow less susceptible, is accurate. And that is what the deliberate decision to deny us the ethnicity/race mortality data in countries outside of China is keeping us from knowing.

  264. Corvinus says:
    @Patrick in SC

    “Great rebuttal, Socrates.”

    The response required rhetoric, not dialectic.

    “If you think this drek is anything but a blooper…”

    As Mr. Sailer stated to you in his message, it was clickbait. A piece that normies would not bother even reading. Yet, Mr. Sailer chose to employ his Iron Rule of Femme Fatalism.

    “This is an op-ed in one of the most influential and widely circulated news sources in the world.”

    And we assume that because she is writing in it, she is influential as well. Her “story” may get exposure, and the editors thought it was worthy of printing, but the NYT has a wide range of people to cater to, no different than Fox News or this fine blog.

    “You might actually have a point if this was the Glenbrook North High School Torch…”

    Your alma mater?

    “You seem to be admitting it’s a pretty stupid piece and most certainly full of lies or at least exaggerations…”

    Stupid piece? Yes. Full of lies? Maybe, maybe not. Exaggerations? Sure.

    “nobody reads this stuff or takes it seriously so Steve is taking the low road by bringing stuff like this to our attention.”

    ‘Tis true, so why would Mr. Sailer spill precious digital ink?

    • Replies: @Bel Riose
  265. Corvinus says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “You really should thank the people you mock.”

    I’m not mocking anyone. I’m simply pointing out how WASPs experienced an “invasion” of non-WASPs.

    “If it wasn’t for their holding newcomers to the highest standards…”

    And what are these “highest standards”? Are you directly or indirectly saying that the Poles, Italians, Slavs–non-WASPs–lacked those standards?

  266. @J1234

    I was at the Met Opera in NYC Saturday afternoon and there were more than a few empty seats, including two beside me that I knew had been sold, according to their website, for $320 each. That same day I got a mailer from them offering a 15% discount on upcoming tickets.

  267. @ThreeCranes

    A Texan and a Polack are standing at urinals at a highway rest stop. The Texan finishes his business, zips his fly, and prepares to leave.

    The Polack says, “Aren’t you going to wash your hands?”

    The Texan says, “No, why should I?”

    The Polack says, “Where I come from they teach you to wash your hands after you pee.”

    The Texan say, “Where I come from they teach you not to pee on your hands.”

    Ba-dum! I’ll be here all week. Try the veal, and don’t forget to tip your waiter.

  268. anon[119] • Disclaimer says:

    Photos of sultry Celine bring to mind The Miss Down Syndrome beauty pageant. Sorry.

  269. @Kim

    #1 is more of a reason to wash before you pee than after, which I have on occasion done. Your hands are way dirtier, because of all those doorknobs and petting dogs and stuff. If you wash after you pee you’re too late.

    #2…. that’s your problem. Maybe you should wipe better. Try wetting the TP for a couple of passes and then switch back to dry. Could also try wearing boxers.

  270. @PiltdownMan

    That effortless ass-to-grass “Third World Squat” is a thing Western babies and toddlers can do easily –

    By our teens most of us have to raise our heels off the ground to squat.

    It probably helps that a lot of folks with a ‘squatting’ culture (including Slavs and Russians) live under permanent caloric restriction (I was going to say “and can’t afford chairs” … but according to the gopnik meme all Slav squatters wear Adidas tracksuits, which cost more than a chair).

  271. @Just Passing Through

    There is no white supremacist as true of conviction as an Asian woman.

    If an Asian woman as beautiful as her doesn’t marry a top-shelf white guy, then she is doing something wrong.

  272. Bel Riose says:
    @Corvinus

    According to whom?

    And what are you going to do about it ?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  273. Thea says:
    @AnotherDad

    Women do their nails in an attempt to attract men. Sometimes we are misguided in what a particular man actually wants but our intent is to please you.

  274. @Kratoklastes

    Yeah, yeah. I too have heard that urine is sterile and wondered, like you, if that’s the case then why men don’t wash their hands before peeing? Or, as you say, pee on their hands.

    Ever smelt pee you left in the toilet overnight? It may be “sterile”, but it’s still disgusting, and the guy you’re shaking hands with got piss on them four hours ago. If urine is so wonderful, then why does the wet floor directly beneath the urinal smell so bad? Or urine that’s been standing in a urinal that has a broken flusher?

  275. @Anonymous

    God! Please! You are killing the language. Do people differ consistently and measurably on something like rotating objects in the mind? Let’s call that “intelligence”. We can call that other thing “cleverness”, “ability”, “the goods”, “a gift”, or “je ne sais quois”. Why? Because when you tell your neighbor that your friend is “intelligent”, they imagine a 130 IQ engineer, not Genghis Khan.

    I mean, just look at your own post. You say your new definition of “intelligence” is better because it’s more encompassing, then say we need to make exceptions for some people who don’t meet your definition. Why? Because they are obviously intelligent? Hello?!! HELLO!!!

    Which sound like comprehensible natural conversation?

    Becky: “Janice, Billy’s really intelligent, but he’s a bit awkward socially.”
    Janice: “Oh, I see. That’s a shame.”

    Becky: “Janice, Billy’s not very intelligent, but everybody likes him.”
    Janice: “That’s okay, then.”

    Becky: “Janice, Billy’s really intelligent, so I’m sure he’ll be captain of the basketball team.”
    Janice: “Of course! They always pick the most intelligent guy on the team.”

    Becky: “Janice, Billy’s not that intelligent, but I think he’s going to get a 1600 on his SAT.”
    Janice: “1600? After the way he asked you out? Wonders never cease…”

    But if you’re really wedded to your definition of intelligence, I guess we can deal with it…

    Becky: “Janice, how was Billy’s test?”
    Janice: “Great. You know, his brain is doubleplusgood.”

  276. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    This shit has been going on for decades at the NYT by some very esteemed writers and editors there. The NYT culture is very perverse and corrupt.

    I knew one gal personally who got caught up in it, and yes, she got a piece published in the NYT. She’d never been published before, anywhere. She wasn’t a professional writer. Because of that, I thought publishing her was pretty bold, but the esteemed writers of the NYT are known to be bold that way.

    The place is a cesspool, in that respect.

    I’m shocked, shocked, that this would happen at The Backward.

    It’s a garbage paper. If you want to know what local New Yorkers know and think, read the New York Post. If you want to know what our betters really think, try the Forward.

    The Jewish Forward – News That Matters To American Jews
    Jewish. Fearless. Since 1897.

    https://forward.com/

  277. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    No, intelligence is pretty correctly defined in the standard metrics. There are people who are high IQ but dysfunctional, neurotic, etc, just as there are people who have lower IQ but are street smart or have high “social quotient”. We all know likeable, agreeable people who can function in sales, call center, retail clerk positions and are business assets even though they’re as dumb as a ficus plant. But in positions where real cognition is required, they fail, and failure to diagnose and acknowledge that will lead to disaster for all concerned.

    Then there is the guy with reasonable cognition but terrible judgment, such as the famous Walt of Walt’s Junction (as, a decade and a half later, it’s still called in the BNSF Argentine Yard). Walt had been a walking Bad Luck Sheprock as an airline mechanic and when the airline went bankrupt got hired on as a brakeman with the railroad. He quickly acquired a reputation as a trouble magnet-around him, stuff broke, things went bad. His piece de resistance, after having established himself as such a scary co-worker that substantial numbers of his brother craft workers were begging officials to can him for their safety, involved throwing a switch that wrecked two locomotives and badly injured two crews. One engineer was so traumatized that he could literally not get back on a motor and got full medical retirement. Finally he was reluctantly cashiered. The thing is that he was not “dumb”, nor was he an unlikeable fellow. He just had spectacularly bad judgment and finally had to be gotten off the yard for everyone’s safety, including his own.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  278. Dissident says:
    @Bucky

    You could argue that gays are “born that way” but that was just a factor in the creation of the behavior.

    This touches upon the conflation that is perhaps the single most fundamental to sodomite propaganda; the one that, more than anything else, accounts for the staggering success that immensely powerful lobby has achieved.

    1.) No one is born buggering or even with a proclivity to be buggered* (i.e., anally penetrated).

    [MORE]

    (As a Black caller to talk-radio I heard years ago put-it when expressing his resentment at the linking of sodomites with Blacks as a designated victim class, “I was born Black. No one is born taking a [male generative organ] up his [orifice of elimination].”)

    2.) Perhaps some individuals may be born with a predisposition toward same-sex attraction.

    3.) Even if everyone were born with a sexual predisposition of one type or another, compelling evidence, logic and common sense suggest that there would almost certainly still be at least some whose sexuality would remain fluid (and subject to influence) until at least some point prior to the completion of adolescence.

    4.) Even in the case of fully-mature adults, there is evidence that suggests that change from homosexuality to heterosexuality may, at least in some cases, be possible. Such evidence includes the cases of John Maynard Keynes and New York City Mayor Bill De Blasio’s wife.

    5.) The prevailing, deeply entrenched worship of buggery in the Gay establishment and community notwithstanding, there are alternative, non-penetrative forms of male homosexual intercourse that are far safer, cleaner, less undignified, and more egalitarian than that dangerous and brutal act. Such alternatives include the phallus-on-phallus act that Man2Man Alliance founder Bill Weintraub has coined the term FROT for.

    *Sodomite propaganda would have one believe that being anally penetrated is perfectly natural for a Gay male. The reality is that extensive conditioning is required in order to overcome the aversion and reflexive repulsion that humans instinctively have for this unnatural invasion of what is clearly an exit-only structure. The psychological component of this conditioning begins as soon as a male “comes out” as Gay. Homosexual men, no matter how emphatically and unapologetically pro-homoerotic, who are critical of buggery and other endemic behaviors of the Gay community are not treated kindly by it.

  279. @Morris Applebaum IV

    I’ve never met a Jew who objected to Irish groups, or Italian, German (okay maybe one or two), Polish, Ukrainian, etc. However, some Jews get irritated by clubs who allow every single white person except Jews. It’s funny how that works.

    Pure minoritarian bildge. Morris, i know you guys are so pickled in this stuff, that you actually believe this is logically telling, but it’s simply not. It’s logical nonsense.

    First as a historical matter, the clubs we are talking about were not for “every single white person”. They were mostly very WASPy clubs for the WASP elite. (I don’t have those creds. My founding stock ancestors moved West busting sod and i’m half–and was raised–Catholic. ) They weren’t sending invitations to me.

    But even taking your example at face value–a club taking all white Christians but no Jews. What’s wrong with that? Nothing.

    Again–and i’ll repeat whenever this nonsense is trotted out–the Jews chose to live as a separate tribe. In the West, various tribes aceeded to Christianity and proceeded to detribalize and become just “the people” of a particular area. This is what–later–allowed the formation of coherent nation states with reasonable “trust at scale” that led to the rise of the West. The Jews rejected this in favor of maintaining their separate “chosen people” tribe–and in fact jacked up their religion with practices and ideology to separate themselves from the majority. (Jews who defected–thought “marrying the farmer’s daughter sounds pretty good to me”–are my ancestors, not yours.)

    The simple point: Jews are and behave as a separate distinct tribe. They engage in various tribal rituals and pro-tribal behavior. And in fact–stereotypes are true–they have patterns of behavior that are different from and can be off-putting to, non-Jews. (As do blacks and many other groups. People tend to like–and be most comfortable with–the behavior of *their* ethnic group.)

    It is entirely reasonable and justifiable for a guy to think “i really don’t want to sit here with my gin and tonic and listen to their constant blather”.

    These are also family meeting and mating clubs. It’s entirely reasonable and justifiable for a guy to think i do not want my daughter to get interested in a young man who is
    — not an Episcopalian
    or
    — not a Protestant
    or
    — not a Christian
    and want his club’s membership policies to reflect that.

    It’s true that post-War America was evolving more toward a generic pan-white American identity But again, (most) Jews chose to not be part of that by clinging to their own separate tribal identity. You keep your separate identity … don’t expect to be included in someone else’s.

    Your example is just that same old, same minoritarian nonsense from Jews: *Our* tribalism is ok, virtuous, good because we’re a poor oppressed … blah, blah, blah … minority. Your tribalism is ..l. vicious anti-Semitism, because you’re the majority.

    Sorry, but there is nothing compelling about that argument logically, ethnically or morally. (It doesn’t matter how many times you Jews stamp your feet and assert it.)

    A nation’s majority is just as entitled to their tribalism, their ethnic solidarity and preservation as anyone else. (In fact, if there’s an argument to be had, i’d say they are *more* entitled to it.)

    The majority is under no obligation to give minority tribes some sort of pass to be a tribal minority, but be included by the majority as well. None. The majority has every right to behave just as tribally and look out to preserve their ethnic interests. In fact, that is their duty.

  280. Corvinus says:
    @Bel Riose

    “And what are you going to do about it?”

    Actually, the more pertinent question is what are YOU going to do about it?

  281. @Dissident

    I read, not too long ago, that a Frenchman changes his underwear once a week.

    “No matter how much you shake and dance, the last few drops go down your pants.”

    I personally take a shower at least once a day, but doubt that everyone does so.

    You may believe anything you like, but telling others that your urine is sterile and that therefore they “should get over it” is equivalent to insisting that your farts objectively smell pleasant while other people’s stink.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  282. Dissident says:
    @ThreeCranes

    I read, not too long ago, that a Frenchman changes his underwear once a week.

    Whether he needs-to or not?

  283. @Anonymous

    “intelligence is the ability to survive in your environment. Going by that definition, the most intelligent people would be exceptional criminals like Sulla, Lenin, Genghis Khan and Napoleon.”

    We already have a term for that kind of “intelligence”; it’s called Machiavellianism.

  284. Clyde says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    FWIW …. and it’s not worth much in this. But I actually went to her youtube channel and her videos get 500 views each. No insta-youtube success for her!

  285. EldnahYm says:
    @Just Passing Through

    The Chinese will not be taking over. It takes an exceptionally pathetic people to lose politically to the Chinese. I’m not even sure the Canadians can manage it. There are plenty of more loquacious, politically savvy, fertile people out there than the Chinese.

  286. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    What’s the deal with Seagate, a little further down the coast?

    I first came across it while idly browsing Google Earth. It’s a strange little gated enclave off at the far end of the world.

  287. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Morris Applebaum IV

    This is disingenuous. Jews are paranoid people with a perennial conviction that powerful gentiles are conspiring against them. In the US, that means WASPs. It’s specifically WASP clubs that Jews wanted to join. They didn’t care what the Irish, Poles, etc. were talking about in their private clubhouses.

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