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From the New York Times:

How to Develop an Appetite for Insects

Scientists who study bugs are thinking harder about how to turn them into good food.

By JoAnna Klein, Sept. 26, 2019

Repeat after me: entomophagy.

It’s derived from Greek and Latin: “entomon,” meaning “insect,” and “phagus,” as in “feeding on.”

Some think it’s the future of food.

In 2013, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations released a report declaring the need to swap traditional protein sources for insects to support a sustainable future. The report helped drive an explosion of efforts all dedicated to making mealworms your next meal. …

When Christopher Columbus returned from the Americas, he and members of his expedition used the insect-eating of the native inhabitants as an example of savagery, and as justification for dehumanizing people he would later enslave, said Julie Lesnik, an anthropologist at Wayne State University and author of “Edible Insects and Human Evolution.”

While it wasn’t the only factor, the colonial era deepened the stigmatization of entomophagy in mainland Europe, and in turn among European settlers in the Americas. Further distaste grew as insects threatened profitable agricultural monocultures supported by slavery and industrialization. …

Even in the United States, Kutzadika’a people, or “fly eaters,” cherish salty pupae from Mono Lake in California.

In other words, even the other bands of impoverished Paiute Indians in the Great Basin made fun of these poor bastards as “eaters of the brine fly pupae.”

That’s quite a future to look forward to.

I’ve been to undrinkable Mono Lake and seen the swarming alkali flies.

Yum-yum.

But entomophagy advocates think reprogramming can transform people’s attitudes toward insects. For instance, kale, sushi, lobster and even olive oil or tomatoes were once scorned and unfamiliar in some cultures.

But change can come about. With education and by acknowledging negative feelings toward eating insects, adults can try to resist passing them to their children.

“It will really benefit them if they don’t think bugs are gross,” she added. “Because it’s our kids’ generation that’s going to have to be able to solve those problems.” …

In the United States, black soldier flies, good at converting waste products to protein, have long been used as feed for poultry and farmed fish….

That kind of research could be a model for eventually mass producing other insects for human consumption, like mealworms or crickets, which we’re a long way off from growing in ways that could feed the masses.

 
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  1. Anon[215] • Disclaimer says:

    The irony is that one of the first guys to promote eating insects was Arthur De Vany, who is the godfather of the “paleo” diet and lifestyle of eating mostly meat and protein and lifting weights. De Vany claims eating insects is “paleo” and that we have some sort of enzyme specially designed to digest insects.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anon

    John Durant, who wrote The Paleo Manifesto, and leans right, is an investor in a cricket protein company.

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @Anon

    If only we had an enzyme specially designed to digest horseshit. I'll develop a taste for insects, as soon as Maureen Dowd and the rest of the masthead of The Paper of Altered Record each swallow one in front of me.

    , @guest
    @Anon

    HiCavemen were hunter-gatherers, and as such either hunted or gathered bugs. Whichever applies.

    It may have slipped everyone's notice, but mankind developed a thing called agriculture. Which includes herding large beasts containing meat far more efficiently productive of human energy when cut up and consumed. I don't advise going back to bugs anymore than walking across our continent to get back to the folks' place for Thanksgiving instead of exploiting motorized lighter-than-air travel.

    , @Anon
    @Anon

    Anybody who eats Paleo needs to be warned about the fundamental Paleo problem.

    Gout.

    But hey, go ahead and enjoy your mature years with kidney damage and severe joint pain if you want to eat like that.

    The reason humans rarely eat insects has to do with the fundamental problem of calories in and calories out. If you expend more calories trying to catch it than you gain in eating it, then it makes no sense to turn it into a food source.

    The one main exception in the past has been locusts. See the Biblical locusts and honey, for example. If the insect is large (meaning it delivers a decent amount of protein per critter), and it arrives in a compact mass (in the way locusts do) which makes it easier to catch it with something like nets, then it tends to be eaten by people.

    But locusts and honey will really give you gout. Sugar's a culprit in making your uric acid rise, especially fructose.

  2. This is all starting to remind me of the 1970s, somehow.

    • LOL: Daniel H
    • Replies: @Mr Ecks
    @Asdf

    The 70's were never as bad as today's ^&*%show has become.

  3. I, for one, am extremely glad the NYT has a paywall. If their reporters can go around licking mosquitoes off the walls and chewing on their shoes to get at the bedbugs, let ’em.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @Anon

    Bedbugs??? Anti-Semite you are!

  4. I’m not going to eat them.

    I’m not going to eat Soylent Green, either.

    I really beginning to hate this fucking world.

  5. This would make it possible to increase population and maintain the current environmental footprint. If we started housing people in stackable shipping container units and feeding them toasted grass hoppers as a protein staple, we could accommodate 1.5 billion more immigrants. The American economy would be the largest in the world.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @byrresheim
    @Kyle

    Make America Great Again!

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Kyle

    Bingo!!

    Several days or weeks ago, I recommended Steve and immigration restrictionists tie the meat issue in to the immigration issue. Every Starting Strength or CrossFit or Ketogenic Dieter should be fighting immigration.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Kyle

    Strongly agree.

  6. “by JoAnna Klein”

    No further questions, your honor.

    Mm, look, tasty insects! Eat your bugs, goyim. We’d love to join you, but sadly we can’t, because bugs aren’t kosher.

    We’ll just have the steak instead.

    But those toasted ladybugs just look delish! And so cute, too! Oy, the things we miss out on!

  7. Eat the bugs, bigot.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    @BenKenobi

    If you don't eat your bugs you won't get any pudding!

  8. From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.

    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Dan NOSowitz? Anti-Semite!

    , @John Cunningham
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Those "Jewish" names are totally bogus, and so are the comments. I don't have any problems with bugs as animal food. I'll skip it myself tho.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Lot
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Poor Dan Nosowitz, he writes more than 900 articles for Modern Farmer, and the first to go viral and generate a lot of comments is among Countersemite Community.

    Replies: @Charon

    , @Daniel Williams
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Those comments are hilarious. Thanks!

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Let me see if I got this straight.

    A guy named "Nosowitz" of all things, has got a "scheme" to "trick" the, um, "Americans" into eating bugs.

    Did somebody accidentally put Julius Streicher's nephew on the payroll?

    , @Whitey Whiteman III
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    "Goy protein", they might call it.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The best comment was attributed to that scary-looking Swedish girl:

    "Eat the bugs! Now!"

    , @Dumbo
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Comments appear to have been removed from the article? Can't see them. I wonder why.

  9. Delicious insects will rampage in your mouth and shred your DNA, annihilating your taste buds and leaving you healthy forever!

    • Troll: Chrisnonymous
  10. I can see it now: CBS reboots 2 Broke Girls, but instead of raising money to open a cupcake shop, it’ll be to open an insect-food cafe.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    @njguy73

    The Hallmark Channel will one up that in a heartbeat.

  11. Let them eat chitin. Chew before you swallow plebs. We need to make room for all those new Americans coming in.

    • Replies: @JRM
    @anon

    Chitin causes leaky gut. If you search pubmed, you'll see that chitin and related molecule chitosan are potential drug delivery vehicles because they increase intestinal permeability which allows drugs to pass into the bloodstream. The downside of leaky gut is increased inflammation and immune response from undigested food particles, gut bacteria and pathogens entering the body.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

  12. Elites to hoi-polloi:

    Nobody likes you,
    Everybody hates you,
    We think you should go ouside,
    And eat worms!

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Mr. Anon


    We think you should go ouside,
    And eat worms!
     
    Ah, you had worms? Worms were a luxury!

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  13. Bret Stephens should start it off by eating all the bed bugs in the Times building.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @cliff arroyo
    @anon

    You want him to commit.... cannibalism?!?!?!

  14. @Anon
    I, for one, am extremely glad the NYT has a paywall. If their reporters can go around licking mosquitoes off the walls and chewing on their shoes to get at the bedbugs, let 'em.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara

    Bedbugs??? Anti-Semite you are!

  15. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    Dan NOSowitz? Anti-Semite!

  16. istevefan says:

    Obviously people who read this blog know there is an ongoing cold, civil war among Whites worldwide. We sometimes refer to the two sides as the good Whites versus the bad Whites. Of course we are the bad Whites and are rightfully proud of this.

    One major difference I’ve noticed between the two groups is that the good Whites are forever on the offensive. Their motors never stop. It’s as if all they do is think of shit, no matter how ridiculous, and come out with one suggestion after another. It’s almost as if they have some sort of quota to meet for the number of new ideas they generate per quarter.

    Meanwhile the bad Whites are strictly defensive and have to constantly respond to the new bullshit the good Whites come up with. Bad Whites seem OK with letting people live their own lives and would rarely come up with any solutions for problems which don’t exist.

    This eating bugs crap is just another in a long line of crap coming from the good Whites. What freaking business is it of theirs what we eat? Why do they have to have a say into every facet of other peoples’ lives?

    Also, does eating insects only apply to bad Whites? Or do the good Whites intend to force the entire planet to change their diets? Given the way they ignore China and India on so-called climage change issues, my guess is the new insect diet and 100 square foot studios are only for us, the bad Whites.

    Maybe it’s a dominance thing. Like in 1984 when Winston was forced to say that four fingers were really five. They are already forcing us to address grown men as “Ma’am”. Now they seem to want to force us to literally eat shit and live in repurposed concrete conduit.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @istevefan

    It’s a city thing. Every country has a “Hunger Games” like relationship between their Provence(s) and Capital City.

    “You give us your shit (food) you country bumpkin and we’ll socially guide you however we wish.”

    Replies: @Lagertha

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @istevefan

    The Good Whites are the fixers, the perfecters, the shapers of human nature, the social engineers. They are substitute saviors who strive to redeem us, their inferiors, their subjects, by remaking us -- not in their own image, but in the image of who they perceive themselves to be.

    C S Lewis had their number. He called them the Conditioners. Read The Abolition of Man -- or That Hideous Strength, if you prefer a fictional depiction.

    Lewis also had a very clear opinion on the wellspring of the Conditioners' terrible energy. Let's just say it bubbles up from a place far below any aquifer.

    Replies: @donvonburg

    , @GermanReader2
    @istevefan

    What really infuriates me is that the people pushing this lifestyle (insect-eating, no cars etc.) on others on average are BIGGER polluters than the people they criticize. I would have a grudging respect for them if they practiced what they preached. Instead, my impression of them is that they criticize others as a sort of atonement for their own flaws, which are bigger than the flaws of the people they criticize.
    In Germany for example politicians and voters of the Green Party are the people who fly most frequently and the longest distances. Even politicians, who want to severely restrict cars in order to fight climate change, fly several times a year to such faraway places (from Germany) as Asia, Australia and America on holiday. This has led to people on the right combing the Instagram-pages of the most vocal climate-change activists/politicians, make some funny videos/montages about their trips and assign hashtags such as #LongdistanceLuisa and #KerosineKatha.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnmXD5F1ZpQ

    (This is #KerosineKatha a politician of the Green Party, who campaigned against the enlargement of the airport in the city she lived in)

    Replies: @El Dato, @istevefan

  17. This is a bit like deciding that if the house is on fire, it’d be a good idea to dress more lightly.

    The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities, not that we don’t eat bugs.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Colin Wright

    “The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Jon Baptist
    @Colin Wright


    world population is soaring to unprecedented densities
     
    You agree then with Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world.
    Since overpopulation is such a problem, the elitists of the world, whose ideas you apparently support, instituted the Population Council that promote homosexuality as documented in the Jaffe Memo of 1969.
    Eugenicists promoted and established Planned Parenthood and setup shop primarily to eliminate growing families in the inner cities and solve the "Negro Problem" as stated by Margaret Sanger.
    Supremacists like Bill Gates fund and promote vaccines throughout the world to minimize the "carbon footprint" of humanity.
    The CFR and its members, like George Soros for example, fund young proxy warriors like Greta Thurnberg and David Hogg through the media that is completely linked within the CFR to brainwash younger generations into giving up all of their personal control to the totalitarian and tyrannical One World Government.
    And yes. There is also the cute and fuzzy Jews, of course, that implemented feminism, control government policy and continually raise taxes for the middle and lower goy classes to take moms out of the home and making them wage slaves instead of nurturing children and maintaining the family unit.
    A couple of questions come to mind. If overpopulation is such a problem, why do not the alarmists-supremacists of the world bite the bullet first.....economically? Secondly, if the mass media absolutely lie about everything, why should we believe them when they chant in unison that more people living in the world is such a huge problem?

    Mass media is a helluva drug. Read more articles and archives at places like Unz and watch less of CNN.
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1169416370318204929/pu/vid/720x400/U_9q9kK1Iw9E4jrN.mp4

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Reg Cæsar

  18. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    Those “Jewish” names are totally bogus, and so are the comments. I don’t have any problems with bugs as animal food. I’ll skip it myself tho.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @John Cunningham


    Those “Jewish” names are totally bogus
     
    You’re telling me Shoah Shekelberg and Rubs Handstein aren’t real names?

    Replies: @Lot

  19. @anon
    Let them eat chitin. Chew before you swallow plebs. We need to make room for all those new Americans coming in.

    Replies: @JRM

    Chitin causes leaky gut. If you search pubmed, you’ll see that chitin and related molecule chitosan are potential drug delivery vehicles because they increase intestinal permeability which allows drugs to pass into the bloodstream. The downside of leaky gut is increased inflammation and immune response from undigested food particles, gut bacteria and pathogens entering the body.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    @JRM

    Yeah, bugs have been around a long time. If we’re not eating them now, there’s likely a reason.

    People eat all kinds of things that are every bit as disgusting as, say, a beetle: snails, lobster, etc. So we’re not against eating invertebrates. There must be some reason why insects didn’t become part of the western diet.

  20. the good Whites are forever on the offensive

    From 1949-1989, goodwhites demanded international socialism because the alternative was nuclear war.

    From 1989-present, goodwhites have demanded international socialism because the alternative is climate catastrophe.

    International socialism is the eternal solution-looking-for-a-problem.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @dvorak


    International socialism is the eternal solution-looking-for-a-problem.

     

    Genesis 11:4: Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth."

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @dvorak


    From 1949-1989, goodwhites demanded international socialism because the alternative was nuclear war.
     
    Never mind the fact that they are the only ones who have ever waged it.
    , @SF
    @dvorak

    I'm sure there are a lot of right wing survivalists researching edible insects, not as a moral good, but as a way to survive when things get really bad and there isn't any game to shoot.

  21. As long as the contents are properly labeled.

    • Replies: @Kibernetika
    @Hypnotoad666

    Yes! The Frog and Peach was a great restaurant, too:

    https://youtu.be/iuE_a1pTsO4

  22. Anon[126] • Disclaimer says:

    By framing anti bug eating as a colonialist evil, SJWs and POC will of course lead the way in eating bug gourmet cuisine. And I’m sure they’ll do it by actually eating raw grubs rather than vegan hamburgers with 3 percent processed grasshopper powder.

    A common Japanese travel variety show stunt involves sending a prim, young female Japanese singer or actress to some jungleland country and have the natives offer her raw grubs to eat. I think the producers put the natives up to this. This recently happened in a home stay with Australian aborigines program. I’m pretty sure they don’t eat bugs, but granny still knew where to find them in old logs, and sure enough the actress was soon choking them down. By the way, purebred aborigine women are butt ugly beyond imagination. The kids are kind of cute in a weird way, and then things quickly go south. Whenever you see an attractive “aborigine” woman, know that she is 1/32 aborigine, 31/32 descendant of English beauty queens.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    Aboriginal women tend to be mouthy and violent.
    That usually has consequences.
    Here's my [second hand] Abo story.
    A group of ringers [cattle station workers on horseback] sat down for smoko.
    The Abo caught a green frog, put it between 2 slices of bread, and ate it.

    This happened on a station south of Maryborough, Queensland, in the Fifties.

  23. @JRM
    @anon

    Chitin causes leaky gut. If you search pubmed, you'll see that chitin and related molecule chitosan are potential drug delivery vehicles because they increase intestinal permeability which allows drugs to pass into the bloodstream. The downside of leaky gut is increased inflammation and immune response from undigested food particles, gut bacteria and pathogens entering the body.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Yeah, bugs have been around a long time. If we’re not eating them now, there’s likely a reason.

    People eat all kinds of things that are every bit as disgusting as, say, a beetle: snails, lobster, etc. So we’re not against eating invertebrates. There must be some reason why insects didn’t become part of the western diet.

  24. It was Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy who upon learning to her horror that the cars outside her private Chapel belonged to her servants cried “What’s the point of being rich if ordinary people can have nice things too.”

    Ot Bill Dr Blasio surrendered. NYC schools will not be desegregated. Too bad. Our betters deserve diversity good and hard.

    • Replies: @Studley
    @Whiskey

    It was Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy who upon learning to her horror that the cars outside her private Chapel belonged to her servants cried “What’s the point of being rich if ordinary people can have nice things too.”

    Or did she? I'm no Kennedy defender but I thought the original story was that Rose, being devoutly Catholic, and under old Joe's influence, with the care of all these children, didn't get out much (as the saying goes). By the 1960's, amazed to know that the staff at Hyannisport were driving to their day jobs. "There is no function or party tonight, what are all these cars parked here for?"

  25. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    Poor Dan Nosowitz, he writes more than 900 articles for Modern Farmer, and the first to go viral and generate a lot of comments is among Countersemite Community.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Lot

    "Nosowitz" is a gag name, right?

    Replies: @Barnard

  26. @Colin Wright
    This is a bit like deciding that if the house is on fire, it'd be a good idea to dress more lightly.

    The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities, not that we don't eat bugs.

    Replies: @Lot, @Jon Baptist

    “The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Lot

    '“The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.'

    Virtually all of it. Almost all countries have populations that are greater than those they had a hundred years ago, and most have populations that are several times what they were a hundred years ago. We've gone from 120 million to about 320 million, China's population has increased about four-fold, Mexico's nine-fold, etc. Go back two hundred years and the numbers start getting silly. Go back further, and well... China's population, for example, historically fluctuated between sixty and one hundred and twenty million. Now it's a billion and a half.

    Objectively, we have a planet that is suffering from an infestation of humans, and even when there are other causes for our problems, the overpopulation aggravates matters. If, for example, global population was two billion, we wouldn't really have to worry about how our cattle were contributing to global warming.

    As I say, a proposal that we eat bugs isn't a solution; it's proof that there's a problem.

    Replies: @Charon, @Icy Blast, @nebulafox

  27. entomophagy advocates think reprogramming can transform people’s attitudes

    Let the brainwashing begin.

    Humans evolved to eat lots of things (often differing between region in what they can tolerate: lactose and alcohol for most Europeans, higher arsenic tolerance among rice-farming groups). Not a lot of bugs in that history.

    Disgust reactions and food taboos shared worldwide aren’t socially constructed.

    Lobster can cause allergies in a substantial minority of people and it’s still basically a dirty bottom-feeder. Tomatoes and other nightshades are known to cause issues.

    And the “sushi” part is a joke. Unfamiliar to some cultures for a long time (because it requires massive supply chains to keep fresh-ish) is different than universally available and despised.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @Aft


    For instance, kale, sushi, lobster and even olive oil or tomatoes were once scorned and unfamiliar in some cultures.
     
    Yes: that sentence, which you allude to in your comment, struck me as almost completely stupid.

    Most foods were once unfamiliar to most cultures; when that changes, cultures are usually eager to adopt the "new" delicious foodstuff. Conversely, everyone in the world is familiar with bugs and always has been, yet most peoples have historically scorned them as a food source.

    Specific items in that list are evidence of either insincerity or ignorance on the author's part, but it's not worth the trouble to address them all.
  28. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    Those comments are hilarious. Thanks!

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Daniel Williams

    You’re welcome, and I agree.

    Some interesting perspectives in the comments section:


    Barbara Spectre

    I think there’s a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time America has not yet learned how to be insect eaters, and I think we’re going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. America has not yet learned how to be bug eaters.

    America is not going to be the monolithic meat eaters that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Americans to make. They are now going into an insect eating mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, America will not survive.
     

    Fly Larvae

    Please god no I have a family, we just want to coexist please I fucking beg of you
     

    Mysterious Señor Hilter

    Why are all these Jews in the comments?
     
  29. https://www.unz.com/akarlin/world-population/

    In case the bug-lovers haven’t noticed, it’s a lot easier to genetically engineer plants and animals than engineer humans into bug digestion. Crop yields will continue to climb and it’s fairly straightforward to also engineer up the protein content of many grains. Those have another order of magnitude of room to grow, way easier than us devolving into bug-eaters.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Aft

    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Aft

    Increasing protein does slow down yield increases, though.

    , @Fidelios Automata
    @Aft

    But that wouldn't sufficiently punish us for White Privilege, Patriarchy and CO2 emissions.

  30. @istevefan
    Obviously people who read this blog know there is an ongoing cold, civil war among Whites worldwide. We sometimes refer to the two sides as the good Whites versus the bad Whites. Of course we are the bad Whites and are rightfully proud of this.

    One major difference I've noticed between the two groups is that the good Whites are forever on the offensive. Their motors never stop. It's as if all they do is think of shit, no matter how ridiculous, and come out with one suggestion after another. It's almost as if they have some sort of quota to meet for the number of new ideas they generate per quarter.

    Meanwhile the bad Whites are strictly defensive and have to constantly respond to the new bullshit the good Whites come up with. Bad Whites seem OK with letting people live their own lives and would rarely come up with any solutions for problems which don't exist.

    This eating bugs crap is just another in a long line of crap coming from the good Whites. What freaking business is it of theirs what we eat? Why do they have to have a say into every facet of other peoples' lives?

    Also, does eating insects only apply to bad Whites? Or do the good Whites intend to force the entire planet to change their diets? Given the way they ignore China and India on so-called climage change issues, my guess is the new insect diet and 100 square foot studios are only for us, the bad Whites.

    Maybe it's a dominance thing. Like in 1984 when Winston was forced to say that four fingers were really five. They are already forcing us to address grown men as "Ma'am". Now they seem to want to force us to literally eat shit and live in repurposed concrete conduit.

    Replies: @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @GermanReader2

    It’s a city thing. Every country has a “Hunger Games” like relationship between their Provence(s) and Capital City.

    “You give us your shit (food) you country bumpkin and we’ll socially guide you however we wish.”

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Kronos

    Is that a threat? Well, You just witnessed, over the last 2 years, that: designs suck.

    Replies: @Kronos

  31. @Mr. Anon
    Elites to hoi-polloi:

    Nobody likes you,
    Everybody hates you,
    We think you should go ouside,
    And eat worms!

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    We think you should go ouside,
    And eat worms!

    Ah, you had worms? Worms were a luxury!

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    Ah, you had worms? Worms were a luxury!
     
    Luxury!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHFZBUTA4k
  32. Pretend it’s shrimp with wings.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    Shrimp once tried to kill me via my immune system.

  33. @istevefan
    Obviously people who read this blog know there is an ongoing cold, civil war among Whites worldwide. We sometimes refer to the two sides as the good Whites versus the bad Whites. Of course we are the bad Whites and are rightfully proud of this.

    One major difference I've noticed between the two groups is that the good Whites are forever on the offensive. Their motors never stop. It's as if all they do is think of shit, no matter how ridiculous, and come out with one suggestion after another. It's almost as if they have some sort of quota to meet for the number of new ideas they generate per quarter.

    Meanwhile the bad Whites are strictly defensive and have to constantly respond to the new bullshit the good Whites come up with. Bad Whites seem OK with letting people live their own lives and would rarely come up with any solutions for problems which don't exist.

    This eating bugs crap is just another in a long line of crap coming from the good Whites. What freaking business is it of theirs what we eat? Why do they have to have a say into every facet of other peoples' lives?

    Also, does eating insects only apply to bad Whites? Or do the good Whites intend to force the entire planet to change their diets? Given the way they ignore China and India on so-called climage change issues, my guess is the new insect diet and 100 square foot studios are only for us, the bad Whites.

    Maybe it's a dominance thing. Like in 1984 when Winston was forced to say that four fingers were really five. They are already forcing us to address grown men as "Ma'am". Now they seem to want to force us to literally eat shit and live in repurposed concrete conduit.

    Replies: @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @GermanReader2

    The Good Whites are the fixers, the perfecters, the shapers of human nature, the social engineers. They are substitute saviors who strive to redeem us, their inferiors, their subjects, by remaking us — not in their own image, but in the image of who they perceive themselves to be.

    C S Lewis had their number. He called them the Conditioners. Read The Abolition of Man — or That Hideous Strength, if you prefer a fictional depiction.

    Lewis also had a very clear opinion on the wellspring of the Conditioners’ terrible energy. Let’s just say it bubbles up from a place far below any aquifer.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    C S Lewis had their number. He called them the Conditioners. Read The Abolition of Man — or That Hideous Strength, if you prefer a fictional depiction.

    Lewis also had a very clear opinion on the wellspring of the Conditioners’ terrible energy. Let’s just say it bubbles up from a place far below any aquifer.
     
    Lewis, of course, was right.

    These people see themselves as The Good, when in fact they are rotten to the core.
    The rotter who knows he's rotten is bad enough, but one that thinks he is right with the world and with whatever God there might be is the one to really watch for.

    J-schools and teacher colleges are breeding grounds for this. It's so embedded that the only solution is to limit one's reading to small crank publications where one knows they're biased but knows what their bias is. That's the only way I know of to get away from J-school trained "journalists". The old learn-the-trade guys are all long since dead.

    Schools are a tougher nut. I don't know what I'd do if I had school age kids today. Homeschool? Maybe. Or set up a charter school where old pre-wokeness books are used exclusively except for sciences and current events. Heavy use of technical nonfiction as literature especially for boys, old 1930s and 1940s basic math and reading for younger kids. Lots of DIY projects, learning to use resources like libraries, that kind of thing. Computer use strictly controlled-with an Apple II like machine for math and English drills, early on and then the Ras Pi in junior high school and high school to learn computing concepts but that isn't as important as anyone thinks. Maybe driving a Model T around the baseball diamond as part of American History class along with typing one whole paper on a typewriter, building a foxhole radio, learning to shoot a muzzle loading rifle.

    The genuinely collegeworthy kids should also get Latin and maybe koine Greek, the rest heavy emphasis on vo-tech prep.

    No easy answers here. Some Christian schools (denominational or not) are good and some as bad as the public schools.

    Replies: @slumber_j

  34. Bugfood for Bugmen.

    Enjoy this culinary revolution, having returned from sitting in a cubicle for eight hours shuffling papers, punching code or arranging numbers in spreadsheets in return for Fedbucks, while dining alone in your half-shipping-container ‘microhouse’, during which the telescreen pipes clips of Greta Thunberg in full ‘Longhouse shaming’ mode: ‘How dare you??!’

    And don’t forget to feel grateful to your masters: why, they could replace you on a whim with any one of 5 billion others should they so wish. And they should, given the ineradicable guilt you carry for having been born with one form of DNA. So, just shutup and eat the bugs, bigot.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Stebbing Heuer

    This ought to be the jacket blurb for a new edition of

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Merchants

    (As a mere “working stiff” our hero, star-class advertising executive Mitch Courtenay, gets well acquainted with modern food...)

  35. I ate cooked silkworm pupae as snacks when I was little. They were common in East Asia. They were pretty nutty and delicious, I thought at the time.

    I probably wouldn’t like them so much now 40+ years later.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Twinkie

    love you, Twinkie - I think it is best not to start a war between us (love you babe) about the most disgusting piscean and meatish (:D) things we should not like....like....not like...since the media tells us to like......hahhahhahahaaa

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Twinkie

    Because, thank God, you're not po yellow trash anymore!

    Replies: @Twinkie

  36. It’s certainly important prolefeed for the future, but also not kosher so we obviously can’t join you in your dietary choices. This NYT Very Special episode will be dedicated to all of you, however.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Pericles

    It’s certainly important prolefeed for the future, but also not kosher so we obviously can’t join you in your dietary choices. This NYT Very Special episode will be dedicated to all of you, however.

    Of course the Sulzbergers and their ilk haven't kept kosher for more than a century, but whatever.

    Replies: @Pericles

    , @Gordo
    @Pericles

    Yes, meat banned but usual groups will be exempt for religious reasons.

    Harold Covington predicted this.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

  37. make the staff eat and sample the cockroaches in their apt. I mean…..don’t write an article that Middle Class people will never see.…they have not read or bought your NYT in 2 years. Sometimes it is time to fuck-off.

  38. @dvorak

    the good Whites are forever on the offensive
     
    From 1949-1989, goodwhites demanded international socialism because the alternative was nuclear war.

    From 1989-present, goodwhites have demanded international socialism because the alternative is climate catastrophe.

    International socialism is the eternal solution-looking-for-a-problem.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Reg Cæsar, @SF

    International socialism is the eternal solution-looking-for-a-problem.

    Genesis 11:4: Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth.”

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    When did the fear of being dispersed transmogrify into the Outward Urge?

  39. Remember that if you don’t start eating yummy bugs, your country won’t be able to take in another half billion of diverse wonderful migrants. It just won’t work.

  40. @anon
    Bret Stephens should start it off by eating all the bed bugs in the Times building.

    Replies: @cliff arroyo

    You want him to commit…. cannibalism?!?!?!

  41. @Lot
    @Colin Wright

    “The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘“The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.’

    Virtually all of it. Almost all countries have populations that are greater than those they had a hundred years ago, and most have populations that are several times what they were a hundred years ago. We’ve gone from 120 million to about 320 million, China’s population has increased about four-fold, Mexico’s nine-fold, etc. Go back two hundred years and the numbers start getting silly. Go back further, and well… China’s population, for example, historically fluctuated between sixty and one hundred and twenty million. Now it’s a billion and a half.

    Objectively, we have a planet that is suffering from an infestation of humans, and even when there are other causes for our problems, the overpopulation aggravates matters. If, for example, global population was two billion, we wouldn’t really have to worry about how our cattle were contributing to global warming.

    As I say, a proposal that we eat bugs isn’t a solution; it’s proof that there’s a problem.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Colin Wright

    The relationship of the human race to the natural world is almost precisely that of a cancer to a living organism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Icy Blast
    @Colin Wright

    Actually over-population is not a "problem" or an "issue" or a "crisis." But I've learned over the decades to not bother a religious Malthusian-Darwinist with facts. He or she is impervious to facts and is usually a devout watcher of PBS documentaries.

    Having said that, if you start killing people, you will have to be stopped.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @nebulafox
    @Colin Wright

    Well, the good news is that most of the developing world has gotten their act together. Outside of a few outliers and Africa, the level of dramatically reduced birth rates would have been altogether inconceivable for those looking at the data 50 years ago.

    The bad news is Africa: something has got to give. Nigeria simply does not have the ability to support population that is larger than the United States. Places like Rwanda and Uganda are seeing birth rates decline, so it can happen, but it isn't happening consistently enough continent-wide to avoid the risk of Malthusian disaster in the future. That, and in places like India or Bangladesh, the birth rate might be down to 2 kids per woman, but the population crest is yet to arrive. Already the population pressure makes its effect felt for young people on the subcontinent: the amount of competition to get a basic standard of living is insane.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  42. make the staff eat and sample the cockroaches in their apt. I mean…..don’t write an article that Middle Class people will never see.…they have not read or bought your NYT in 2 years. Sometimes it is time to fuck-off.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Lagertha

    AGREED, Lagertha!

    Indeed, the clock in the NY Times office has just gone half past a monkey's ass and it seconds away from "time to fuck off".

    I have no idea what this Gordon Lightfoot epic has to do with the subject, but thanks. That is one of my favorites. Prost!

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Lagertha

    , @Lagertha
    @Lagertha

    Most people on the coasts, like (90% of the USA) have no idea who the Great Lake Coasts people were - those people do not equate with coasts. Let that burn, right now.

    It just snowed 3 feet in my son's town.

  43. @Aft
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/world-population/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/us-crop-yields-1866-2014-300x300.png

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zs3CELduimU/VC7QENbMv-I/AAAAAAAAFjs/qmJriJYrGsE/s280/Screen%2BShot%2B2014-10-03%2Bat%2B12.32.57%2BPM.png

    In case the bug-lovers haven't noticed, it's a lot easier to genetically engineer plants and animals than engineer humans into bug digestion. Crop yields will continue to climb and it's fairly straightforward to also engineer up the protein content of many grains. Those have another order of magnitude of room to grow, way easier than us devolving into bug-eaters.

    Replies: @Anon, @Redneck farmer, @Fidelios Automata

    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.
     
    But they tasted better.

    Mark Schatzker examined cookbooks from the early 20th century and found that chicken recipes rarely called for more than salt and pepper, even though great-grandma had a full rack of spices to employ. They simply weren't needed. The fast was in the bird itself.

    Now, after a century of breeding for size and disease resistance, the flavor is gone. So here come the dressings and all the calories with them.

    I wish he got around to doing a video about chicken, but his one on chocolate (in which he looks like Butt-Head's more intelligent twin) makes the same point:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzEn_tduKOY


    Don't miss his other ones on Irish stew and vegetable murder.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Redneck farmer, @Romanian, @Anon

  44. @Twinkie
    I ate cooked silkworm pupae as snacks when I was little. They were common in East Asia. They were pretty nutty and delicious, I thought at the time.

    I probably wouldn’t like them so much now 40+ years later.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Redneck farmer

    love you, Twinkie – I think it is best not to start a war between us (love you babe) about the most disgusting piscean and meatish (:D) things we should not like….like….not like…since the media tells us to like……hahhahhahahaaa

  45. I can’t decide which of the Democrat contenders, jostling curently to be the most Woke on the global-warming evils of meat and proposing to outlaw cheeseburgers if elected, is going to run on a promise to make it law you have to eat insects.

    Beto O’Roach?
    Joe Spiden?*
    Peter Butterfly?
    Kamala Harris bed bug killer? (will fail to gain PETA endorsement- nor NYT’s Brett Stevens’)
    Flyawatha? (started life as a white larva called Liz, but metamorphosed in adulthood)

    (*Okay, I know I know, spiders aren’t insects. Don’t flame me.)

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Ano

    I don’t have enough comments to lol. Flyaway, lol.

    Replies: @Rob

  46. I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent. Optimize for health. Consume a pill or a nutrient solution rather than food.

    Insects are an option. I suspect algae, plant, fungus, or bean or sprouted grain options might be more practical than insects.

    Many doctors and nutritionists say that vegan diets with some supplements are best for human health. Insects are obviously animals and not vegan or vegetarian. If insects aren’t super food healthy, then why bother?

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Massimo Heitor

    Best parody I've read this morning. Thank you.

    , @peterike
    @Massimo Heitor


    Many doctors and nutritionists say that vegan diets with some supplements are best for human health.

     

    Yes, many do say that, and they are all dead wrong.
    , @Random Smartaleck
    @Massimo Heitor


    I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent.
     
    I really don't understand all the hubbub about Soylent. It's just yet another variation on enteric feeding formulas for people using g-tubes and in like situations, which have been around for ages. It's only seen as something new and exciting by Silicon Valley gammas who have bought the marketing hype.

    And speaking as someone who was dependent on these formulas for a time... No, real food is far, far better, and provides better nutrition by far. Yes, they will keep you alive, but I would hope that more than mere survival is your goal...

    Replies: @Massimo Heitor, @Massimo Heitor

  47. We’re run by lizard people. Of course they like the idea of eating insects!

  48. Meat eaters

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Anonymous

    The SCTV version of how Vidal and Mailer got along is much better:

    "We asked Norman Mailer to write a 60-second commercial for Tyde. Let's see how he made out."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVc8LGlR69c

    "Tyde. Best damn detergent in America."

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

  49. @Kronos
    @istevefan

    It’s a city thing. Every country has a “Hunger Games” like relationship between their Provence(s) and Capital City.

    “You give us your shit (food) you country bumpkin and we’ll socially guide you however we wish.”

    Replies: @Lagertha

    Is that a threat? Well, You just witnessed, over the last 2 years, that: designs suck.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Lagertha

    I live in a moderate sized town.

    I’m just voicing what they (city slickers) think.

  50. @Lot
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Poor Dan Nosowitz, he writes more than 900 articles for Modern Farmer, and the first to go viral and generate a lot of comments is among Countersemite Community.

    Replies: @Charon

    “Nosowitz” is a gag name, right?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Charon

    No, he is real and content in his twitter feed is consistent with wanting to force the masses to eat bugs.


    He just read the comments to this article and claims this isn't the first time this has happened.

    https://twitter.com/dannosowitz/status/1177575078248308736

  51. I will not eat green bugs and ham, Sam I am!

  52. @John Cunningham
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Those "Jewish" names are totally bogus, and so are the comments. I don't have any problems with bugs as animal food. I'll skip it myself tho.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Those “Jewish” names are totally bogus

    You’re telling me Shoah Shekelberg and Rubs Handstein aren’t real names?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If Shoah Shekelberg isn’t real then who’s been doing my tax returns all these years????


    [just kidding I use Turbotax]

    [j/k, as a “resident” of the Cayman Islands, I don’t pay US taxes]

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  53. @Daniel Williams
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Those comments are hilarious. Thanks!

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You’re welcome, and I agree.

    Some interesting perspectives in the comments section:

    Barbara Spectre

    I think there’s a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time America has not yet learned how to be insect eaters, and I think we’re going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. America has not yet learned how to be bug eaters.

    America is not going to be the monolithic meat eaters that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Americans to make. They are now going into an insect eating mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, America will not survive.

    Fly Larvae

    Please god no I have a family, we just want to coexist please I fucking beg of you

    Mysterious Señor Hilter

    Why are all these Jews in the comments?

  54. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    Let me see if I got this straight.

    A guy named “Nosowitz” of all things, has got a “scheme” to “trick” the, um, “Americans” into eating bugs.

    Did somebody accidentally put Julius Streicher’s nephew on the payroll?

    • LOL: Hail
  55. orthodox jews can’t eat bugs because all insects except locusts are not kosher. wonder if that bible rule of no eating insects was for a good reason.

  56. @Colin Wright
    @Lot

    '“The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.'

    Virtually all of it. Almost all countries have populations that are greater than those they had a hundred years ago, and most have populations that are several times what they were a hundred years ago. We've gone from 120 million to about 320 million, China's population has increased about four-fold, Mexico's nine-fold, etc. Go back two hundred years and the numbers start getting silly. Go back further, and well... China's population, for example, historically fluctuated between sixty and one hundred and twenty million. Now it's a billion and a half.

    Objectively, we have a planet that is suffering from an infestation of humans, and even when there are other causes for our problems, the overpopulation aggravates matters. If, for example, global population was two billion, we wouldn't really have to worry about how our cattle were contributing to global warming.

    As I say, a proposal that we eat bugs isn't a solution; it's proof that there's a problem.

    Replies: @Charon, @Icy Blast, @nebulafox

    The relationship of the human race to the natural world is almost precisely that of a cancer to a living organism.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Charon

    'The relationship of the human race to the natural world is almost precisely that of a cancer to a living organism.'

    Arguably -- but I'm firmly on the side of the cancer.

    I'd just rather leave my host in good health -- and the less we metastasize, the less we need to circumscribe our own behavior to ensure that.

    I can go ahead and chop down trees and have a campfire every night -- so long as I don't have a hundred million buddies doing the same thing. The fewer of us there are, the more we can just do as we please.

    It irritates me that I have to throw back any non-hatchery coho salmon I catch. Cut down on how many other people there are out there fishing and doing all the rest of it, and I won't have to.

  57. Fear Factor and early years of Survivor had insect-eating challenges a lot. The episode with this challenge was particularly memorable:

    • Replies: @Aft
    @AnonAnon

    Joe Rogan should invite Greta the demon child onto his podcast to eat some bugs.


    OT, shiv of the month:


    She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see! https://t.co/1tQG6QcVKO— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2019
     
  58. Anon[732] • Disclaimer says:

    Dear iSteve readers,
    I have a friend who’s planning to visit a very progressive part of America, and wants to know if there’s any safety risk run if a Tiny Duck sees you drink in public an insect smoothie made with cows milk through a Trump 2020 plastic straw.

    Thanks in advance.

  59. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Is this a “Let’s Talk about My Hair” story, or a Juicey Smolier “Fake Hate Crime” story?:

    Three boys accused of assaulting girl, cutting her dreadlocks at private Virginia school
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sixth-grade-boys-accused-of-assaulting-classmate-cutting-her-hair-at-private-virginia-school/2019/09/26/4383b83e-e085-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    There’s a certain glass-table rape over-the-top aspect to the story. Were there any witnesses? And the word “nappy” is sort of like “noose,” in that it’s not something that white people use or think about that often, but black people are obsessed with it. And carrying around scissors on the schoolyard is like carrying around a vial of bleach while out taking a nighttime walk.

    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @Anon

    I'm betting hoax. But maybe a pathetic one, as opposed to Smollet-like crime of self-promotion.

    I read the story on MSN, and it's the typical premature, credulous account to which we've become accustomed. But it also features a TV news segment in which the child is interviewed:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boys-accused-of-pinning-down-black-girl-and-cutting-dreadlocks/ar-AAHUF8l?ocid=spartanntp

    To me, the girl is sympathetic when she says she feels she doesn't deserve to be in a Christian school. But I suspect the reporter didn't understand what the girl meant, and only ran the clip for its emotional impact. My supposition is that the girl is genuinely unhappy in this private school environment (for reasons anyone here could guess). Apparently she lives with her grandmother--there's no mention of parents--so that's another potential source of unhappiness in her life. Self-mutilation of one sort or another seems to be a common way that young girls express unhappiness; cutting one's hair is a fairly benign variety.

    So a young girl cuts her hair in a moment of deep negative emotion. Perhaps she regrets it, but her grandmother notices, and the embarassed kid makes up a dramatic story where she's the victim. The grandmother lodges a complaint; maybe there really are some kids who tease the girl; it could all have been dealt with in a sensitive way.

    But that's when the credulous press gets into the act, hungry to exploit any whiff of racism and promote it to national prominence. Now everyone involved is backed into a corner, with no graceful way to back out, "revise" the story, apologize and quietly get on with life.

    I don't doubt there may be some chicanery on the grandmother's part, and the girl is obviously wrong to have started the hoax to begin with (if that's indeed the case). And if she's accused innocent boys as her assailants (indeed even if she vaguely fingered a gang of "white boys") she's done a terrible thing that deserves consequences. But what she doesn't deserve, as a 12-year-old kid, is to be exploited as the latest face of the national "cause celebre" of our psychotic elites.

    Replies: @Alden, @Aft

    , @Stealth
    @Anon

    We're all brought up to trust the press/evening news, but now, anytime I hear a story that supports the white-people-bad narrative, I ask myself things like, "did this really happen," and "what are they not telling us?"

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  60. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Is this a “Let’s Talk about My Hair” story, or a Juicey Smoliyay “Fake Hate Crime” story?:

    Three boys accused of assaulting girl, cutting her dreadlocks at private Virginia school
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sixth-grade-boys-accused-of-assaulting-classmate-cutting-her-hair-at-private-virginia-school/2019/09/26/4383b83e-e085-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    There’s a certain glass-table rape over-the-top aspect to the story. Were there any witnesses? And the word “nappy” is sort of like “noose,” in that it’s not something that white people use or think about that often, but black people are obsessed with it. And carrying around scissors on the schoolyard is like carrying around a vial of bleach while out taking a nighttime walk.

    • Replies: @Con Moto
    @Anon

    How many 12 year-old boys know the word nappy (or care)?

  61. I wouldn’t want to eat insects, but larvae looks eatable.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    @Anonymous

    This is reminding me of high school history class and the Diet of Worms.

  62. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:

    Actually, I have no problem with this.

    If modern technology is able to harvest the natural, efficient protein building characteristics of the order insecta, and by industrial processing render this into a pure, wholesome power like product, so much the better.
    Mainly, it’s a moral point. The consumption of animal meat means the killing of warm blooded vertebrates with developed spinal/cerebral/nervous systems – creatures which are our kin with one step removed. Creatures which feel pain, anguish and fear to the degree that warm blooded enervated man does.
    Insects – biological robots with no cerebral development are many rungs down entirely – at the nexus of proto animal life.
    At some stage of the genus Homo’s evolution as a higher humanitarian being, this switch in protein consumption will inevitably be made. Its corollary is the general increase in Homo intelligence and consciousness.

    • LOL: TWS
  63. @Pericles
    It's certainly important prolefeed for the future, but also not kosher so we obviously can't join you in your dietary choices. This NYT Very Special episode will be dedicated to all of you, however.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gordo

    It’s certainly important prolefeed for the future, but also not kosher so we obviously can’t join you in your dietary choices. This NYT Very Special episode will be dedicated to all of you, however.

    Of course the Sulzbergers and their ilk haven’t kept kosher for more than a century, but whatever.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @kaganovitch


    Of course the Sulzbergers and their ilk haven’t kept kosher for more than a century, but whatever.

     

    Do they still have a right to return to Israel? Anyway, I expect that, should the need arise, something can be finessed ahead of time.
  64. Skilled rhetoric by the NYT to associate dislike of insects with the depredations of slavery and colonialism.

    For instance, kale, sushi, lobster and even olive oil or tomatoes were once scorned and unfamiliar in some cultures.

    This is why Israeli settlers still uproot olive trees owned by Palestinians to this day.

    But change can come about. With education and by acknowledging negative feelings toward eating insects, adults can try to resist passing them to their children.

    I have the bad feeling someone is currently feeding Greta new information in a seminar.

  65. OT – I never realised Hans Asperger (of syndrome fame) has been Cancelled.

    https://www.autism.org.uk/about/what-is/asperger.aspx#Problematic

    “Asperger syndrome shares its name with Hans Asperger, a prominent figure in the early research into autism who worked as a paediatrician in Austria in the 20th century, including during the time of the Nazis. An eight-year study into his relationship with the Nazi regime was published in 2018, concluding that he assisted in their euthanasia programme.

    This provoked a big debate among autistic people and their family members, particularly those who identify with the term ‘Asperger’. We are listening closely to the response to this news so we can continue to make sure the language we use to describe autism reflects the preferences of autistic people and their families. “

    But I thought the Great and Good were cool with euthanasia?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @YetAnotherAnon

    While Aspies now need to consider whether they are two steps away from MENGELE HIMSELF and may need to undergo problem-reassignment treatment:

    Lengthy article in RT on the frankly unhealthy (to put it mildly; I actually think the Hoofed One has a Hoof in here) transgender industry:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/469766-transgender-pharma-drugs-surgery/


    Thus, with many millions of dollars in profit on the line, do the medical community and pharmaceutical companies have an incentive to promote risky hormonal treatment, together with the radical surgical procedures, to the public?

    Something similar is happening now in the United States with the deadly opioid epidemic. Big Pharma played no small part in getting these powerful painkillers to patients regardless of the safety hazards involved [I wonder who could be behind Big Pharma?]. According to The Kelsey Coalition, the situation with regards to hormone treatment is nearly identical.

    By way of example, the for-profit advocacy group cited Endo Pharmaceuticals, a pill manufacturer, which lost over $10 million in settling opioid lawsuits and was forced to abandon production of the pill. Instead, as the Kelsey Coalition told RT, the company is now “focusing on their testosterone line of products.” That may not sound like such a terrible thing, until it is realized that “almost every vocal pro-medicalization ‘gender expert’ in the US has an association with Endo Pharmaceutical as an advisor,” the group claimed.
     

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Alden

  66. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @John Cunningham


    Those “Jewish” names are totally bogus
     
    You’re telling me Shoah Shekelberg and Rubs Handstein aren’t real names?

    Replies: @Lot

    If Shoah Shekelberg isn’t real then who’s been doing my tax returns all these years????

    [just kidding I use Turbotax]

    [j/k, as a “resident” of the Cayman Islands, I don’t pay US taxes]

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Lot


    [j/k, as a “resident” of the Cayman Islands, I don’t pay US taxes]
     
    Comments following a 2016 iSteve article where Steve suggested paying suspected terrorists to leave Europe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/better-a-terrorist-hegira-out-of-europe-than-into-europe

    Jenner Ickham Errican

    Commenters are scoffing at Steve’s suggestion of a 20,000 Euro payout and a penalty of 20 years in prison for subsequent trespassers, assuming that 20 grand is too low an incentive for banishment. However, a recent article in Kiplinger’s Personal Finance made the case that if the money is invested in a Vanguard no-load index fund while the investor is serving 20 years (no expenses, three hots and a cot), the return could be quite impressive.

    Dave Pinsen

    Will these stupid index fund hypotheticals never cease? First we got the ones about how Trump would have made more money if he had somehow inherited his father’s entire estate circa 1999 in the mid-70s. Now we have one envisioning an investor who has a lump sum but zero expenses for 20 years because he’s in jail. He’d be lucky his lump sum doesn’t get given to his victims as restitution.

    Jenner Ickham Errican

    I believe the Kiplinger’s article said the hypothetical jailbird had already hidden his account in the Caimans, which from what I gather are rather fearsome and would scare away most forensic accountants.

    OT, any thoughts on Brexit speculation plays? I’ve already acquired 100k USD worth of physical Quality Street, but I’m wondering if I should have grabbed more.
     
  67. @Anon
    The irony is that one of the first guys to promote eating insects was Arthur De Vany, who is the godfather of the "paleo" diet and lifestyle of eating mostly meat and protein and lifting weights. De Vany claims eating insects is "paleo" and that we have some sort of enzyme specially designed to digest insects.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @guest, @Anon

    John Durant, who wrote The Paleo Manifesto, and leans right, is an investor in a cricket protein company.

  68. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Is this a “Let’s Talk about My Hair” story, or a Juicey Smoleeyay “Fake Hate Crime” story?:

    Three boys accused of assaulting girl, cutting her dreadlocks at private Virginia school
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sixth-grade-boys-accused-of-assaulting-classmate-cutting-her-hair-at-private-virginia-school/2019/09/26/4383b83e-e085-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    There’s a certain glass-table rape over-the-top aspect to the story. Were there any witnesses? And the word “nappy” is sort of like “noose,” in that it’s not something that white people use or think about that often, but black people are obsessed with it. And carrying around scissors on the schoolyard is like carrying around a vial of bleach while out taking a nighttime walk.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Anon

    The story has gone national now, my local news station has it on their website. Questions I had:

    1. No one noticed she hadn't been eating lunch because the boys had been stealing it for weeks?
    2. No students or teachers noticed she was being held down, gagged and assaulted on a playground full of students?
    3. No students or teachers the rest of the day noticed that the dreads we cut off one side of her head the rest of the day?

    That the school uses the term alleged victim makes me think they already know it is a hoax.

  69. @Stebbing Heuer
    Bugfood for Bugmen.

    Enjoy this culinary revolution, having returned from sitting in a cubicle for eight hours shuffling papers, punching code or arranging numbers in spreadsheets in return for Fedbucks, while dining alone in your half-shipping-container 'microhouse', during which the telescreen pipes clips of Greta Thunberg in full 'Longhouse shaming' mode: 'How dare you??!'

    And don't forget to feel grateful to your masters: why, they could replace you on a whim with any one of 5 billion others should they so wish. And they should, given the ineradicable guilt you carry for having been born with one form of DNA. So, just shutup and eat the bugs, bigot.

    Replies: @Cortes

    This ought to be the jacket blurb for a new edition of

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Merchants

    (As a mere “working stiff” our hero, star-class advertising executive Mitch Courtenay, gets well acquainted with modern food…)

  70. @Pericles
    It's certainly important prolefeed for the future, but also not kosher so we obviously can't join you in your dietary choices. This NYT Very Special episode will be dedicated to all of you, however.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Gordo

    Yes, meat banned but usual groups will be exempt for religious reasons.

    Harold Covington predicted this.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Gordo

    A lot of prison conversions are related to better food for Halal inmates...

  71. @Anon
    @Aft

    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.

    But they tasted better.

    Mark Schatzker examined cookbooks from the early 20th century and found that chicken recipes rarely called for more than salt and pepper, even though great-grandma had a full rack of spices to employ. They simply weren’t needed. The fast was in the bird itself.

    Now, after a century of breeding for size and disease resistance, the flavor is gone. So here come the dressings and all the calories with them.

    I wish he got around to doing a video about chicken, but his one on chocolate (in which he looks like Butt-Head’s more intelligent twin) makes the same point:

    Don’t miss his other ones on Irish stew and vegetable murder.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Reg Cæsar

    That should read "The taste was in the bird itself." Beaten by Besos [sic] again.

    , @Redneck farmer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Also, they get slaughtered earlier. If you eat a chicken that's been around for nine months, instead of three, there's some taste.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Romanian
    @Reg Cæsar

    My father grows his own vegetables, chickens and sometimes ducks, geese and turkeys. He has different breeds for eggs and meat, but they are the peasant variety, so not much difference. There is little meat on the chickens, but it is very flavored. I think that the problem is also with the stuff they pump into the chickens to get them growing even faster and to keep them healthy while they are, pun intended, cooped up in the industrial farm space. The difference between what I eat at or from home and what I get from a restaurant or supermarket is significant. Going to supermarkets abroad, such as the US, it is even more so.

    , @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think salt and pepper is all you need today, especially salt, rubbed on the raw chicken a day before cooking it. If you are frying and you want spicy, cayenne pepper can go in the flour with salt and pepper.

    The author of the old Big Secrets book series many years ago got a zip lock full of Kentucky Fried Chicken pre-seasoned flour mix from an insider (i.e, a kid working a part time job), and had a lab test it. Verdict: The 11 herbs and spices are salt, pepper, ... and that's it. If you do any batter frying you know that you have to put a ton of powdered spices in the flour to even taste it. So the lab couldn't have missed ingredients 3 and above if they were in there.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

  72. @Lot
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If Shoah Shekelberg isn’t real then who’s been doing my tax returns all these years????


    [just kidding I use Turbotax]

    [j/k, as a “resident” of the Cayman Islands, I don’t pay US taxes]

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    [j/k, as a “resident” of the Cayman Islands, I don’t pay US taxes]

    Comments following a 2016 iSteve article where Steve suggested paying suspected terrorists to leave Europe:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/better-a-terrorist-hegira-out-of-europe-than-into-europe

    Jenner Ickham Errican

    Commenters are scoffing at Steve’s suggestion of a 20,000 Euro payout and a penalty of 20 years in prison for subsequent trespassers, assuming that 20 grand is too low an incentive for banishment. However, a recent article in Kiplinger’s Personal Finance made the case that if the money is invested in a Vanguard no-load index fund while the investor is serving 20 years (no expenses, three hots and a cot), the return could be quite impressive.

    Dave Pinsen

    Will these stupid index fund hypotheticals never cease? First we got the ones about how Trump would have made more money if he had somehow inherited his father’s entire estate circa 1999 in the mid-70s. Now we have one envisioning an investor who has a lump sum but zero expenses for 20 years because he’s in jail. He’d be lucky his lump sum doesn’t get given to his victims as restitution.

    Jenner Ickham Errican

    I believe the Kiplinger’s article said the hypothetical jailbird had already hidden his account in the Caimans, which from what I gather are rather fearsome and would scare away most forensic accountants.

    OT, any thoughts on Brexit speculation plays? I’ve already acquired 100k USD worth of physical Quality Street, but I’m wondering if I should have grabbed more.

  73. I’ll take real bugs over laboratory-produced Frankenmeat any day. You can buy them coated with chocolate, too. Needless to say, bugs beat buggery. So this is an improvement in the conversation.

    Are insects even kosher?

    (Are centaurs insects? They have six limbs.)

    I’ve been to undrinkable Mono Lake and seen the swarming alkali flies.

    Yum-yum.

    Is that near Clap Lake or Drip Pond?

    Not an insect, but the creature with the most legs, Illacme plenipes, is a native of the Bay Area. No word on how it tastes.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2233339/The-astonishing-millipede-750-legs-fighting-life-California.html


    750-Leg Millipede Even Weirder Than Thought

  74. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @istevefan

    The Good Whites are the fixers, the perfecters, the shapers of human nature, the social engineers. They are substitute saviors who strive to redeem us, their inferiors, their subjects, by remaking us -- not in their own image, but in the image of who they perceive themselves to be.

    C S Lewis had their number. He called them the Conditioners. Read The Abolition of Man -- or That Hideous Strength, if you prefer a fictional depiction.

    Lewis also had a very clear opinion on the wellspring of the Conditioners' terrible energy. Let's just say it bubbles up from a place far below any aquifer.

    Replies: @donvonburg

    C S Lewis had their number. He called them the Conditioners. Read The Abolition of Man — or That Hideous Strength, if you prefer a fictional depiction.

    Lewis also had a very clear opinion on the wellspring of the Conditioners’ terrible energy. Let’s just say it bubbles up from a place far below any aquifer.

    Lewis, of course, was right.

    These people see themselves as The Good, when in fact they are rotten to the core.
    The rotter who knows he’s rotten is bad enough, but one that thinks he is right with the world and with whatever God there might be is the one to really watch for.

    J-schools and teacher colleges are breeding grounds for this. It’s so embedded that the only solution is to limit one’s reading to small crank publications where one knows they’re biased but knows what their bias is. That’s the only way I know of to get away from J-school trained “journalists”. The old learn-the-trade guys are all long since dead.

    Schools are a tougher nut. I don’t know what I’d do if I had school age kids today. Homeschool? Maybe. Or set up a charter school where old pre-wokeness books are used exclusively except for sciences and current events. Heavy use of technical nonfiction as literature especially for boys, old 1930s and 1940s basic math and reading for younger kids. Lots of DIY projects, learning to use resources like libraries, that kind of thing. Computer use strictly controlled-with an Apple II like machine for math and English drills, early on and then the Ras Pi in junior high school and high school to learn computing concepts but that isn’t as important as anyone thinks. Maybe driving a Model T around the baseball diamond as part of American History class along with typing one whole paper on a typewriter, building a foxhole radio, learning to shoot a muzzle loading rifle.

    The genuinely collegeworthy kids should also get Latin and maybe koine Greek, the rest heavy emphasis on vo-tech prep.

    No easy answers here. Some Christian schools (denominational or not) are good and some as bad as the public schools.

    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @donvonburg

    In my experience the great majority of people who write for the NYT don't have J-school degrees but worked on the Harvard Crimson or whatever as undergraduates.

    Replies: @El Dato

  75. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.
     
    But they tasted better.

    Mark Schatzker examined cookbooks from the early 20th century and found that chicken recipes rarely called for more than salt and pepper, even though great-grandma had a full rack of spices to employ. They simply weren't needed. The fast was in the bird itself.

    Now, after a century of breeding for size and disease resistance, the flavor is gone. So here come the dressings and all the calories with them.

    I wish he got around to doing a video about chicken, but his one on chocolate (in which he looks like Butt-Head's more intelligent twin) makes the same point:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzEn_tduKOY


    Don't miss his other ones on Irish stew and vegetable murder.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Redneck farmer, @Romanian, @Anon

    That should read “The taste was in the bird itself.” Beaten by Besos [sic] again.

  76. During my year in Thailand I witnessed the locals eating beetles and such, just pulling them off a tree or bush. Our houseboy would scoop the flying ants, washed in piles onto the veranda during monsoon rains, by the handful. He offered me some. No thanks.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @John Henry

    If you want something more substantial, do consider the tarantula.

    https://foodfuntravel.com/eating-spiders-tarantula-phnom-penh-cambodia/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_spider

    Here is a review from what appears to be a foodie Conditioner site.


    They arrive dried and stiff. But we soaked them in oil, added some spice and then pan fried them. Perfect. Talk about getting the conversation going. It's all anyone talked about for the first half of the dinner. It took some time but by the end of the dinner, all six of us had tried our tarantula and three of us ate it all. Moving on to scorpions next.

     

    https://www.edibleinsects.com/edible-bugs/edible-tarantulas/
  77. America from cowboys and Indians to bugbois and Bangladeshis.

  78. @Aft
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/world-population/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/us-crop-yields-1866-2014-300x300.png

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zs3CELduimU/VC7QENbMv-I/AAAAAAAAFjs/qmJriJYrGsE/s280/Screen%2BShot%2B2014-10-03%2Bat%2B12.32.57%2BPM.png

    In case the bug-lovers haven't noticed, it's a lot easier to genetically engineer plants and animals than engineer humans into bug digestion. Crop yields will continue to climb and it's fairly straightforward to also engineer up the protein content of many grains. Those have another order of magnitude of room to grow, way easier than us devolving into bug-eaters.

    Replies: @Anon, @Redneck farmer, @Fidelios Automata

    Increasing protein does slow down yield increases, though.

  79. Supposedly Hornet’s larvaes are delicious:

  80. @Twinkie
    I ate cooked silkworm pupae as snacks when I was little. They were common in East Asia. They were pretty nutty and delicious, I thought at the time.

    I probably wouldn’t like them so much now 40+ years later.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @Redneck farmer

    Because, thank God, you’re not po yellow trash anymore!

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Redneck farmer

    Never was poor. Was middle class growing up in Asia. Roasted silkworm pupae was popular all over East Asia and consumed by many people: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beondegi

    They are actually kind of a super food - loaded with protein and fiber and minimal carbs/sugar. Promotes fat- and sugar-burning:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4241922/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422715/

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  81. @kaganovitch
    @Pericles

    It’s certainly important prolefeed for the future, but also not kosher so we obviously can’t join you in your dietary choices. This NYT Very Special episode will be dedicated to all of you, however.

    Of course the Sulzbergers and their ilk haven't kept kosher for more than a century, but whatever.

    Replies: @Pericles

    Of course the Sulzbergers and their ilk haven’t kept kosher for more than a century, but whatever.

    Do they still have a right to return to Israel? Anyway, I expect that, should the need arise, something can be finessed ahead of time.

  82. Our elites:
    “Repeat after me: shit sandwich.”

  83. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.
     
    But they tasted better.

    Mark Schatzker examined cookbooks from the early 20th century and found that chicken recipes rarely called for more than salt and pepper, even though great-grandma had a full rack of spices to employ. They simply weren't needed. The fast was in the bird itself.

    Now, after a century of breeding for size and disease resistance, the flavor is gone. So here come the dressings and all the calories with them.

    I wish he got around to doing a video about chicken, but his one on chocolate (in which he looks like Butt-Head's more intelligent twin) makes the same point:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzEn_tduKOY


    Don't miss his other ones on Irish stew and vegetable murder.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Redneck farmer, @Romanian, @Anon

    Also, they get slaughtered earlier. If you eat a chicken that’s been around for nine months, instead of three, there’s some taste.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Redneck farmer


    Also, they get slaughtered earlier. If you eat a chicken that’s been around for nine months, instead of three, there’s some taste.
     
    That's what he says about Irish stew-- use mutton, not lamb.



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u__2sny_ve0


    But don't do what this other Torontonian does-- she's apparently on laughing gas:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jwGRzPnzqr8


    "It Doesn't Taste Like Chicken", indeed. When I want something that doesn't taste like chicken, I'll buy chicken. It's cheaper and easier!
  84. @John Henry
    During my year in Thailand I witnessed the locals eating beetles and such, just pulling them off a tree or bush. Our houseboy would scoop the flying ants, washed in piles onto the veranda during monsoon rains, by the handful. He offered me some. No thanks.

    Replies: @Pericles

    If you want something more substantial, do consider the tarantula.

    https://foodfuntravel.com/eating-spiders-tarantula-phnom-penh-cambodia/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_spider

    Here is a review from what appears to be a foodie Conditioner site.

    They arrive dried and stiff. But we soaked them in oil, added some spice and then pan fried them. Perfect. Talk about getting the conversation going. It’s all anyone talked about for the first half of the dinner. It took some time but by the end of the dinner, all six of us had tried our tarantula and three of us ate it all. Moving on to scorpions next.

    https://www.edibleinsects.com/edible-bugs/edible-tarantulas/

  85. @Kyle
    This would make it possible to increase population and maintain the current environmental footprint. If we started housing people in stackable shipping container units and feeding them toasted grass hoppers as a protein staple, we could accommodate 1.5 billion more immigrants. The American economy would be the largest in the world.

    Replies: @byrresheim, @Chrisnonymous, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Make America Great Again!

  86. So, rather than working to curb population growth in Africa, India, and other parts of the Third World and risk being called racists so we can continue to eat as we do, we all have to be shamed into eating insects.

    I despise the global Left.

  87. Chances JoAnna Klein has ever eaten an insect on purpose:

    Approximately less than zero %.

    “That kind of research could be a model for eventually mass producing other insects for human consumption,”

    …while I, Jo capital A nna Klein, will continue to eat chicken Caesar salads with a glass of white wine for lunch.

  88. They want to groom poor people to eat bugs because it’s bad for climate change, but the rich will in all likelihood continue to enjoy their rib eye steaks. I guess average is over.
    This article ticks all the boxes: climate change, white guilt, and growing inequality as a fact of life. What a future we have to look forward to!

  89. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    “Goy protein”, they might call it.

  90. I’m amazed the NYT reporter didn’t claim insects taste like chicken. That will get me to eat anything. I did eat some deep fried crickets once when I visited Oahaxa, Mexico. Didn’t taste like chicken. Very crunchy and oily. The batter helped.

  91. Veganism and bug eating are the Next Big Push from the left. We’re already starting to see the idea that meat eating leads to “climate change” being floated. Next expect to see *studies “proving” that eating meat not only causes cancer in those who consume it, but also those who are exposed to it through sight or smell. There is a precedent for this with second hand smoking of course. A vegan woman in Australia recently tried to sue a neighbour to stop them from barbecuing meat because as a vegan, the smell sickened her.

    The good news is that Hispanics, Moslems, blacks and Asians, none of whom give two flying fucks about the environment, will never go along with the idea of giving up meat. So you may lose your steak and roast White man but you’ll always be able to get a nice kebob or beef taco.

  92. @Aft

    entomophagy advocates think reprogramming can transform people’s attitudes
     
    Let the brainwashing begin.


    Humans evolved to eat lots of things (often differing between region in what they can tolerate: lactose and alcohol for most Europeans, higher arsenic tolerance among rice-farming groups). Not a lot of bugs in that history.

    Disgust reactions and food taboos shared worldwide aren't socially constructed.

    Lobster can cause allergies in a substantial minority of people and it's still basically a dirty bottom-feeder. Tomatoes and other nightshades are known to cause issues.

    And the "sushi" part is a joke. Unfamiliar to some cultures for a long time (because it requires massive supply chains to keep fresh-ish) is different than universally available and despised.

    Replies: @slumber_j

    For instance, kale, sushi, lobster and even olive oil or tomatoes were once scorned and unfamiliar in some cultures.

    Yes: that sentence, which you allude to in your comment, struck me as almost completely stupid.

    Most foods were once unfamiliar to most cultures; when that changes, cultures are usually eager to adopt the “new” delicious foodstuff. Conversely, everyone in the world is familiar with bugs and always has been, yet most peoples have historically scorned them as a food source.

    Specific items in that list are evidence of either insincerity or ignorance on the author’s part, but it’s not worth the trouble to address them all.

    • Agree: jim jones
  93. @Anon
    OT

    Is this a “Let’s Talk about My Hair” story, or a Juicey Smoliyay “Fake Hate Crime” story?:

    Three boys accused of assaulting girl, cutting her dreadlocks at private Virginia school
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sixth-grade-boys-accused-of-assaulting-classmate-cutting-her-hair-at-private-virginia-school/2019/09/26/4383b83e-e085-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    There’s a certain glass-table rape over-the-top aspect to the story. Were there any witnesses? And the word “nappy” is sort of like “noose,” in that it’s not something that white people use or think about that often, but black people are obsessed with it. And carrying around scissors on the schoolyard is like carrying around a vial of bleach while out taking a nighttime walk.

    Replies: @Con Moto

    How many 12 year-old boys know the word nappy (or care)?

  94. @donvonburg
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    C S Lewis had their number. He called them the Conditioners. Read The Abolition of Man — or That Hideous Strength, if you prefer a fictional depiction.

    Lewis also had a very clear opinion on the wellspring of the Conditioners’ terrible energy. Let’s just say it bubbles up from a place far below any aquifer.
     
    Lewis, of course, was right.

    These people see themselves as The Good, when in fact they are rotten to the core.
    The rotter who knows he's rotten is bad enough, but one that thinks he is right with the world and with whatever God there might be is the one to really watch for.

    J-schools and teacher colleges are breeding grounds for this. It's so embedded that the only solution is to limit one's reading to small crank publications where one knows they're biased but knows what their bias is. That's the only way I know of to get away from J-school trained "journalists". The old learn-the-trade guys are all long since dead.

    Schools are a tougher nut. I don't know what I'd do if I had school age kids today. Homeschool? Maybe. Or set up a charter school where old pre-wokeness books are used exclusively except for sciences and current events. Heavy use of technical nonfiction as literature especially for boys, old 1930s and 1940s basic math and reading for younger kids. Lots of DIY projects, learning to use resources like libraries, that kind of thing. Computer use strictly controlled-with an Apple II like machine for math and English drills, early on and then the Ras Pi in junior high school and high school to learn computing concepts but that isn't as important as anyone thinks. Maybe driving a Model T around the baseball diamond as part of American History class along with typing one whole paper on a typewriter, building a foxhole radio, learning to shoot a muzzle loading rifle.

    The genuinely collegeworthy kids should also get Latin and maybe koine Greek, the rest heavy emphasis on vo-tech prep.

    No easy answers here. Some Christian schools (denominational or not) are good and some as bad as the public schools.

    Replies: @slumber_j

    In my experience the great majority of people who write for the NYT don’t have J-school degrees but worked on the Harvard Crimson or whatever as undergraduates.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @slumber_j

    Can't be all bad

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/9/26/bacon-on-wheels/


    The bacon-chauvinism and crusade against health food “quinoa, kale, granola” is also, to some extent, branding. “The market is a little oversaturated with healthy food trends,” Williams says. The truck’s salad option, then, is not a betrayal of this bacon-centric ethos, but instead part of their business plan, along with the vegan alternative (fried zucchini chips) offered at their cafe.
     
  95. Snowpiercer is not a documentary.

  96. Funny, how many idiots are out there who think eating insects (or – gasp! – worms) is somehow worse than eating shrimps, crabs, snails or oysters.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @bossel

    Mountain oysters taste better than all of what you mentioned.

    , @TTSSYF
    @bossel

    So people are "idiots" because they like shrimp cocktail but are not so thrilled at the idea of substituting chilled worms? I take it you're trying out all of the latest recipes for entrees made with insects or worms and inviting family and friends over so they can get over being "idiots" and their (no-doubt) socially-constructed aversion to dragonfly chips and humus with a side of pureed worm juice, followed by spaghetti with sautéed worms and fresh marinara?

    , @S. Anonyia
    @bossel

    Clearly not a coastal dweller are you? Huge difference.

  97. @AnonAnon
    Fear Factor and early years of Survivor had insect-eating challenges a lot. The episode with this challenge was particularly memorable:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zc6_UCgd4KU

    Replies: @Aft

    Joe Rogan should invite Greta the demon child onto his podcast to eat some bugs.

    OT, shiv of the month:

    She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see! https://t.co/1tQG6QcVKO— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2019

  98. Can’t they write an article about what is essentially a scientific (or any kind of article) without working racism or slavery into it? Also, the real problem with the human race isn’t what we eat, it is that there are just too many of use in the world.

  99. @istevefan
    Obviously people who read this blog know there is an ongoing cold, civil war among Whites worldwide. We sometimes refer to the two sides as the good Whites versus the bad Whites. Of course we are the bad Whites and are rightfully proud of this.

    One major difference I've noticed between the two groups is that the good Whites are forever on the offensive. Their motors never stop. It's as if all they do is think of shit, no matter how ridiculous, and come out with one suggestion after another. It's almost as if they have some sort of quota to meet for the number of new ideas they generate per quarter.

    Meanwhile the bad Whites are strictly defensive and have to constantly respond to the new bullshit the good Whites come up with. Bad Whites seem OK with letting people live their own lives and would rarely come up with any solutions for problems which don't exist.

    This eating bugs crap is just another in a long line of crap coming from the good Whites. What freaking business is it of theirs what we eat? Why do they have to have a say into every facet of other peoples' lives?

    Also, does eating insects only apply to bad Whites? Or do the good Whites intend to force the entire planet to change their diets? Given the way they ignore China and India on so-called climage change issues, my guess is the new insect diet and 100 square foot studios are only for us, the bad Whites.

    Maybe it's a dominance thing. Like in 1984 when Winston was forced to say that four fingers were really five. They are already forcing us to address grown men as "Ma'am". Now they seem to want to force us to literally eat shit and live in repurposed concrete conduit.

    Replies: @Kronos, @The Last Real Calvinist, @GermanReader2

    What really infuriates me is that the people pushing this lifestyle (insect-eating, no cars etc.) on others on average are BIGGER polluters than the people they criticize. I would have a grudging respect for them if they practiced what they preached. Instead, my impression of them is that they criticize others as a sort of atonement for their own flaws, which are bigger than the flaws of the people they criticize.
    In Germany for example politicians and voters of the Green Party are the people who fly most frequently and the longest distances. Even politicians, who want to severely restrict cars in order to fight climate change, fly several times a year to such faraway places (from Germany) as Asia, Australia and America on holiday. This has led to people on the right combing the Instagram-pages of the most vocal climate-change activists/politicians, make some funny videos/montages about their trips and assign hashtags such as #LongdistanceLuisa and #KerosineKatha.

    (This is #KerosineKatha a politician of the Green Party, who campaigned against the enlargement of the airport in the city she lived in)

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @GermanReader2

    You have to make Global Warming to fight Global Warming!

    (This is probably literally true; there is a lot of concrete to be poured to set up all those nuclear reactors .. what's that? verboten too? ohferchristsake)

    , @istevefan
    @GermanReader2

    I'm surprised the authorities have not punished the people who made that parody. Surely they must have hurt the woman's feelings.

    Also, why would a German Green politician go to Little Rock?

  100. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Mr. Anon


    We think you should go ouside,
    And eat worms!
     
    Ah, you had worms? Worms were a luxury!

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Ah, you had worms? Worms were a luxury!

    Luxury!

  101. I always wondered about the British upper class forcing the Irish to grow beef and grain for them to eat top shelf, and forcing those same Irish to eat rotting potatoes and watch their children die. Not “How could they be that evil”, I have been a lawyer long enough to know an Ivy League will poison children without a second thought if it increases his stock options. Rather, how could they be that dumb. That wasn’t a chemical byproduct slipped into the air or water out of sight, they were spiking the football into their victims’ faces over and over, and it ended up costing them for a century.

    Now it is happening again, here in the States. “My family will eat Whole Foods and Wygu, you eat insect protein, scumy worker class. I am infecting your communities with Muslims, and will force you to bow to them, scum workers. Here come the illegals, to take your pay increases and let me buy a third vacation home, scum workers.”

  102. This has nothing to do with insects.

    But you might be very interested in the tweets from these LA multimillionaires.

    https://www.riaintel.com/article/b1hbd09jz4900d/a-bloomberg-columnists-ria-is-spewing-hatred-at-police-wed-be-better-off-if-all-cops-were-dead

  103. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    The best comment was attributed to that scary-looking Swedish girl:

    “Eat the bugs! Now!”

  104. @Colin Wright
    @Lot

    '“The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.'

    Virtually all of it. Almost all countries have populations that are greater than those they had a hundred years ago, and most have populations that are several times what they were a hundred years ago. We've gone from 120 million to about 320 million, China's population has increased about four-fold, Mexico's nine-fold, etc. Go back two hundred years and the numbers start getting silly. Go back further, and well... China's population, for example, historically fluctuated between sixty and one hundred and twenty million. Now it's a billion and a half.

    Objectively, we have a planet that is suffering from an infestation of humans, and even when there are other causes for our problems, the overpopulation aggravates matters. If, for example, global population was two billion, we wouldn't really have to worry about how our cattle were contributing to global warming.

    As I say, a proposal that we eat bugs isn't a solution; it's proof that there's a problem.

    Replies: @Charon, @Icy Blast, @nebulafox

    Actually over-population is not a “problem” or an “issue” or a “crisis.” But I’ve learned over the decades to not bother a religious Malthusian-Darwinist with facts. He or she is impervious to facts and is usually a devout watcher of PBS documentaries.

    Having said that, if you start killing people, you will have to be stopped.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Icy Blast

    Ah, you seem of the libertarian-forever-cornucopia persuasion. Don't let reality mug you early.


    Having said that, if you start killing people, you will have to be stopped.
     
    You and what army in what circumstances and where?
  105. @Charon
    @Lot

    "Nosowitz" is a gag name, right?

    Replies: @Barnard

    No, he is real and content in his twitter feed is consistent with wanting to force the masses to eat bugs.

    He just read the comments to this article and claims this isn’t the first time this has happened.

  106. @Kyle
    This would make it possible to increase population and maintain the current environmental footprint. If we started housing people in stackable shipping container units and feeding them toasted grass hoppers as a protein staple, we could accommodate 1.5 billion more immigrants. The American economy would be the largest in the world.

    Replies: @byrresheim, @Chrisnonymous, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Bingo!!

    Several days or weeks ago, I recommended Steve and immigration restrictionists tie the meat issue in to the immigration issue. Every Starting Strength or CrossFit or Ketogenic Dieter should be fighting immigration.

  107. Tikkun olam for the Goyim.

  108. @Kyle
    This would make it possible to increase population and maintain the current environmental footprint. If we started housing people in stackable shipping container units and feeding them toasted grass hoppers as a protein staple, we could accommodate 1.5 billion more immigrants. The American economy would be the largest in the world.

    Replies: @byrresheim, @Chrisnonymous, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Strongly agree.

  109. @Massimo Heitor
    I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent. Optimize for health. Consume a pill or a nutrient solution rather than food.

    Insects are an option. I suspect algae, plant, fungus, or bean or sprouted grain options might be more practical than insects.

    Many doctors and nutritionists say that vegan diets with some supplements are best for human health. Insects are obviously animals and not vegan or vegetarian. If insects aren't super food healthy, then why bother?

    Replies: @TWS, @peterike, @Random Smartaleck

    Best parody I’ve read this morning. Thank you.

  110. What the author wants is for white people to face the indignity of switching to an insect diet. Let Africans and others just continue to hunt endangered species to extinction. And I don’t think many Indians would be sold on the idea of eating flies.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Rob McX

    A fly could be a reincarnation of one of their luckless ancestors.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    I don’t think many Indians would be sold on the idea of eating flies.
     
    You don't know where that fly has been! Also, untouchables are anything but untouchable:


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-children-beaten-death-defecating-public-village-modi-gates-a9121511.html

    The Gates Foundation is coming to the rescue, though. And there is this charming salvo in the bowels battle:



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQFW20SNv0

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

  111. I think we evolved not to have bugs, despite their ample abundance, because of their associations with death, decay and pestilence. Kind of like why rabbit meat is a delicacy but we don’t have rats. Shrimps are basically water bugs, and we have been having them for ages. Maybe their aquatic nature makes them ‘clean’.

  112. Totally off topic: I just read somewhere that the Italians, after being forced to get rid of Salvini, have finally struck back at the European Union in their own unique fashion. They are now fast tracking the citizenship papers of all the refugee migrants being dumped off on them by NGOs. Once they receive citizenship they can go anywhere in the European Union and will most likely be quickly relocating to the more prosperous member states such as France, Germany and England…

    The Italians have once again shown their ability to undercut the major authority figures of Europe while seeming to surrender…

  113. @Colin Wright
    This is a bit like deciding that if the house is on fire, it'd be a good idea to dress more lightly.

    The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities, not that we don't eat bugs.

    Replies: @Lot, @Jon Baptist

    world population is soaring to unprecedented densities

    You agree then with Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world.
    Since overpopulation is such a problem, the elitists of the world, whose ideas you apparently support, instituted the Population Council that promote homosexuality as documented in the Jaffe Memo of 1969.
    Eugenicists promoted and established Planned Parenthood and setup shop primarily to eliminate growing families in the inner cities and solve the “Negro Problem” as stated by Margaret Sanger.
    Supremacists like Bill Gates fund and promote vaccines throughout the world to minimize the “carbon footprint” of humanity.
    The CFR and its members, like George Soros for example, fund young proxy warriors like Greta Thurnberg and David Hogg through the media that is completely linked within the CFR to brainwash younger generations into giving up all of their personal control to the totalitarian and tyrannical One World Government.
    And yes. There is also the cute and fuzzy Jews, of course, that implemented feminism, control government policy and continually raise taxes for the middle and lower goy classes to take moms out of the home and making them wage slaves instead of nurturing children and maintaining the family unit.
    A couple of questions come to mind. If overpopulation is such a problem, why do not the alarmists-supremacists of the world bite the bullet first…..economically? Secondly, if the mass media absolutely lie about everything, why should we believe them when they chant in unison that more people living in the world is such a huge problem?

    Mass media is a helluva drug. Read more articles and archives at places like Unz and watch less of CNN.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Jon Baptist

    'You agree then with Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world...'

    The equivalent of that would be asserting because I felt the Versailles Treaty was unfair to Germany that I approved of gassing the Jews.

    No...I don't need to agree with 'Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world' to observe that world population has reached unprecedented heights and that this fact is contributing to a wide range of problems and forcing us to limit our freedom in various ways that we otherwise wouldn't have to.

    Ultimately, if I'm the only driver on the freeway, it's basically my business how fast I want to drive. If it's bumper to bumper, some regulation will indeed be necessary.

    Here's a more ordinary example. My wife and I were up in Idaho -- still the land of the free, but now with a lot more people exercising their freedom. So there was this lake: totally unregulated camping, no fees, go there and be a free American.

    It looked pretty good when we pulled in, too. Beautiful...until we got a closer look.

    Human and dog feces everywhere. No Paternalistic government charging camping fees and putting in pit toilets, you see.

    Now, with a tenth as many Idahoans, total freedom could work. With the numbers the state has now, total freedom's not so hot.

    So no, I don't need to agree with 'Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world' to note that there are more other people around than I would like.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jon Baptist


    Jews, of course, that implemented feminism
     
    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist. When Seneca Falls was invaded by harridans, Jewesses were still in the shtetls.

    You and Colin should find something to agree on-- you both likely believe those of us wrong who think "the fewer Mohammedans, the better".

    The "unprecedented densities" isn't even debatable, as this graphic shows. The West, and much of the East, has already solved its growth problem-- if it weren't for immigration.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @ATBOTL, @Jon Baptist, @S. Anonyia

  114. @Ano
    I can't decide which of the Democrat contenders, jostling curently to be the most Woke on the global-warming evils of meat and proposing to outlaw cheeseburgers if elected, is going to run on a promise to make it law you have to eat insects.

    Beto O'Roach?
    Joe Spiden?*
    Peter Butterfly?
    Kamala Harris bed bug killer? (will fail to gain PETA endorsement- nor NYT's Brett Stevens')
    Flyawatha? (started life as a white larva called Liz, but metamorphosed in adulthood)

    (*Okay, I know I know, spiders aren't insects. Don't flame me.)

    Replies: @Rob

    I don’t have enough comments to lol. Flyaway, lol.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Rob

    Flyawatha, dammit.

  115. Will there be kosher insects for consumption?

  116. @Massimo Heitor
    I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent. Optimize for health. Consume a pill or a nutrient solution rather than food.

    Insects are an option. I suspect algae, plant, fungus, or bean or sprouted grain options might be more practical than insects.

    Many doctors and nutritionists say that vegan diets with some supplements are best for human health. Insects are obviously animals and not vegan or vegetarian. If insects aren't super food healthy, then why bother?

    Replies: @TWS, @peterike, @Random Smartaleck

    Many doctors and nutritionists say that vegan diets with some supplements are best for human health.

    Yes, many do say that, and they are all dead wrong.

  117. @Rob
    @Ano

    I don’t have enough comments to lol. Flyaway, lol.

    Replies: @Rob

    Flyawatha, dammit.

  118. @njguy73
    I can see it now: CBS reboots 2 Broke Girls, but instead of raising money to open a cupcake shop, it'll be to open an insect-food cafe.

    Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter

    The Hallmark Channel will one up that in a heartbeat.

  119. 45 years ago inflation was 10 or more percent a year and wages were stagnant. Every nutritionist in the country was urging eat carbs avoid meat as it causes. heart failure and the fat in meat caused chubbiness. Then the feds got into it. The FDA food pyramid advocated massive carbs little meat.

    Never mentioned was that a high carb diet had always been deemed fattening and low carb high protein diets were slimming.

    45 years later the average American is 30 pounds heavier than the average in 1974. And the problem is no longer unfashionable chubbiness. It’s outright 100 pounds overweight morbid obesity.

  120. @Anonymous
    Meat eaters

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb1w_qoioOk

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    The SCTV version of how Vidal and Mailer got along is much better:

    “We asked Norman Mailer to write a 60-second commercial for Tyde. Let’s see how he made out.”

    “Tyde. Best damn detergent in America.”

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    @Inquiring Mind

    That was funny as hell.

    SCTV has aged so much better than SNL.

  121. @BenKenobi
    Eat the bugs, bigot.

    Replies: @Ancient Briton

    If you don’t eat your bugs you won’t get any pudding!

    • LOL: Rosie, Mr McKenna
  122. In case you haven’t noticed, there has been a concerted effort to demonize meat eating lately. This has always been a smoldering issue on the Enviro-Left, but it’s flared up a bit recently with recent headlines about German scientists promoting cannibalism to save the climate and UN spokespeople condemning cattle ranching.

    Another leg of this stool has been the propaganda campaign to mainstream Impossible Meat by promoting it in fast food joints. Now Burger King has the impossible wopper and Qdoba the impossible burrito. I even saw an impossible slider at freaking White Castle, of all places. If there is anywhere that epitomizes the idea of cheap, greasy burgers for working class dudes working in round the clock shifts at the factories in America’s industrial heartland, it is White Castle. I happen to like that atmosphere and Impossible meat has no place there. It is not coincidental that the company is also being propped up by an Impossibly Overvalued IPO.

    Furthermore, this whole idea of eating insects does not in and of itself multiply the amount of protein in the food chain. Insects do not have some alchemical ability to transform non-nitrogen into nitrogen; therefore they will still have to be fertilized and farmed. It is not clear how exactly this is supposed to help anything.

    On the other hand, termites do harbor nitrogen fixing gut bacteria and human activity already produces a huge amount of cellulosic waste (corn stalks, for example) that the termites can eat. The termites can then be converted into animal feed. Having a corn farm in association with a termite farm in association with a chicken farm might actually be a clever and natural way of utilizing resources efficiently, but I don’t think this is what these jerks have in mind.

  123. @Rob McX
    What the author wants is for white people to face the indignity of switching to an insect diet. Let Africans and others just continue to hunt endangered species to extinction. And I don't think many Indians would be sold on the idea of eating flies.

    Replies: @BB753, @Reg Cæsar

    A fly could be a reincarnation of one of their luckless ancestors.

  124. It’s all about humiliation. That’s all it ever is now.

  125. If you want to eat bugs, you can buy crickets or mealworms in any pet store, but as a source of protein, they cost more than filet mignon.

    That’s because any large-scale conversion of vegetable matter into animal protein requires feedlots. Outside the tropics, insects need fully-enclosed, heated feedlots. That gets expensive fast, in both money and CO2 emissions.

  126. @YetAnotherAnon
    OT - I never realised Hans Asperger (of syndrome fame) has been Cancelled.

    https://www.autism.org.uk/about/what-is/asperger.aspx#Problematic


    "Asperger syndrome shares its name with Hans Asperger, a prominent figure in the early research into autism who worked as a paediatrician in Austria in the 20th century, including during the time of the Nazis. An eight-year study into his relationship with the Nazi regime was published in 2018, concluding that he assisted in their euthanasia programme.

    This provoked a big debate among autistic people and their family members, particularly those who identify with the term ‘Asperger’. We are listening closely to the response to this news so we can continue to make sure the language we use to describe autism reflects the preferences of autistic people and their families. "
     

    But I thought the Great and Good were cool with euthanasia?

    Replies: @El Dato

    While Aspies now need to consider whether they are two steps away from MENGELE HIMSELF and may need to undergo problem-reassignment treatment:

    Lengthy article in RT on the frankly unhealthy (to put it mildly; I actually think the Hoofed One has a Hoof in here) transgender industry:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/469766-transgender-pharma-drugs-surgery/

    Thus, with many millions of dollars in profit on the line, do the medical community and pharmaceutical companies have an incentive to promote risky hormonal treatment, together with the radical surgical procedures, to the public?

    Something similar is happening now in the United States with the deadly opioid epidemic. Big Pharma played no small part in getting these powerful painkillers to patients regardless of the safety hazards involved [I wonder who could be behind Big Pharma?]. According to The Kelsey Coalition, the situation with regards to hormone treatment is nearly identical.

    By way of example, the for-profit advocacy group cited Endo Pharmaceuticals, a pill manufacturer, which lost over $10 million in settling opioid lawsuits and was forced to abandon production of the pill. Instead, as the Kelsey Coalition told RT, the company is now “focusing on their testosterone line of products.” That may not sound like such a terrible thing, until it is realized that “almost every vocal pro-medicalization ‘gender expert’ in the US has an association with Endo Pharmaceutical as an advisor,” the group claimed.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @El Dato

    I'm really not shocked, TBH. In the pre-1945 German speaking world, utterly obedient, dutiful, honest boys would have had sympathy, much more than "typical" children.

    Asperger's basic thesis was that the above-average intelligence ones could serve society quite well if given proper support, and that had resonance in a culture that was rigid, strict, clear, and prized things that high-functioning autistics tended to epitomize.

    , @Alden
    @El Dato

    It’s probably because transgender treatment is now covered by insurance. It’s no longer an elective paid by the patient costing whatever the Dr thinks he she can get, like cosmetic plastic surgery. Before it was covered by insurance, few could easily afford the hormones and surgery. Now It’s covered by insurance and the patient has already paid for it. Or in some cases. The taxpayers. Soon the local free county hospitals will open up a tranny clinic along with peds ortho etc

  127. Uh, pardon a silly question, but aren’t we in the middle of a great insect die-off?

    https://www.laboratoryequipment.com/article/2019/02/insect-die-worldwide-loss-40-percent-species-predicted

    I guess they have to settle for mass sterilsation of humans à la Paul Ehrlich.

  128. @slumber_j
    @donvonburg

    In my experience the great majority of people who write for the NYT don't have J-school degrees but worked on the Harvard Crimson or whatever as undergraduates.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Can’t be all bad

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/9/26/bacon-on-wheels/

    The bacon-chauvinism and crusade against health food “quinoa, kale, granola” is also, to some extent, branding. “The market is a little oversaturated with healthy food trends,” Williams says. The truck’s salad option, then, is not a betrayal of this bacon-centric ethos, but instead part of their business plan, along with the vegan alternative (fried zucchini chips) offered at their cafe.

  129. OT but an answer to the recurrent question here: how would the space race turned out if 1960s America had been as identity-obsessed as it is now?

    • Replies: @jim jones
    @International Jew

    How many women have won a Formula 1 Grand Prix race?

    , @El Dato
    @International Jew

    Strong space wymen who need no radiation shielding or spare delta-V to get things done.

    It's getting to the point where there is a ludicrous make-believe effort that "West-based" males and females are two different species that are in some competition. For the sparse resource of sports-groupie like bragging rights.

    So it not "Red Moon", it's "Male Moon"!!

    Eagerly awaiting a movie about the African Space Programme, beating everyone to the goal in the early 60s, because in an alternate history cross-atlantic slavery was never implemented and the US could not get all the black power to pull rocketry through.

    Here's Soviet Mars, FTW!

    https://i.imgur.com/eEmDlzJ.jpg

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @Neuday
    @International Jew

    The music for the trailer is Dream On. Indeed.

    If we're to send females into space it would make sense to ensure only those over 40 go, for obvious reasons. I'm not saying that all women over 40 should be shot into space, no sir-ee.

  130. So…
    We are to end animal husbandry (unstated but implied) in order to farm pestilence?
    I just don’t see that ending up in the way they envision.
    Perhaps the apocalypse is nigh?

  131. The left is in the midst of (among many other things) an anti-evolutionary panic. Is there a defined psychological disorder for something like that? Of course, I don’t mean anti-evolutionary in a biological sense, but in a cultural sense.

    They seem to believe that everything that evolved in culture – specifically, their own culture – must be rejected and replaced with a re-engineered and reinvented substitute…not just basic societal structure, but every last thing. Evolved preferences and tastes can never work because evolved things have roots in the past and the past is essentially evil (unless, of course, it’s some other culture’s past…and the poorer the culture the better.)

    I guess the appeal is that with mass reinvention and social engineering a movement can put it’s moral stamp on every last aspect of society. The left can then claim to have invented the world. What a sense of power that must bring! Food, clothing, music and everything else can be divided into moral or immoral. Sound kind of 12th century? More than a little bit…so I guess some aspects of our past actually were pretty evil.

  132. “Don’t Stop Heavin’”.

    From stomach bugs to earworms: NPR recently reported that, according to Nielsen, Journey’s convenience store nasal drone classic about a wannabe whatever from Windsor, Ontario is the most downloaded track from the 20th century:

    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/16/760315306/journey-dont-stop-believin-american-anthem

  133. @Gordo
    @Pericles

    Yes, meat banned but usual groups will be exempt for religious reasons.

    Harold Covington predicted this.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    A lot of prison conversions are related to better food for Halal inmates…

  134. @Rob McX
    What the author wants is for white people to face the indignity of switching to an insect diet. Let Africans and others just continue to hunt endangered species to extinction. And I don't think many Indians would be sold on the idea of eating flies.

    Replies: @BB753, @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t think many Indians would be sold on the idea of eating flies.

    You don’t know where that fly has been! Also, untouchables are anything but untouchable:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-children-beaten-death-defecating-public-village-modi-gates-a9121511.html

    The Gates Foundation is coming to the rescue, though. And there is this charming salvo in the bowels battle:

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Reg Cæsar

    A Boy And His Turds.

  135. @International Jew
    OT but an answer to the recurrent question here: how would the space race turned out if 1960s America had been as identity-obsessed as it is now?
    https://youtu.be/N3RjayAF0b4

    Replies: @jim jones, @El Dato, @Neuday

    How many women have won a Formula 1 Grand Prix race?

  136. OT, but much more important. Here is the video of blacks murdering John Weed in Maryland.

    Make sure every white person you know sees this video:

    This video should have 200,000,000 views.

  137. Let them eat cicadas.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @JimB

    It’s not a bug. It’s a feature.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  138. Well if you take the bible seriously, you shouldn’t be eating pork or shellfish but you should be eating crickets.

  139. Hah. Starbucks was feeding their customer bug derivatives for years.

    “Starbucks Corp. is phasing out the use of a natural coloring derived from crushed beetles in its Strawberry Frappuccinos and smoothies, as well as a few sweet treats, after a storm kicked up by the vegan community. ”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303513404577354022580498552

    “Food makers may not want to dwell on it, but the ingredient that gives Dannon Boysenberry yogurt and Tropicana Ruby Red Grapefruit juice their distinctive colors comes from crushed female cochineal beetles.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB113833159673257881

  140. I am surprised at all the negativity about eating insects here. I am old enough to remember when even in the Bay Area most people considered eating raw fish disgusting. How did that turn out?

    Most people have chitinase (I get that if you are of pure Anglo stock you may not have it). If not, mushrooms would give you leaky gut. That takes care of the crunchy ones.

    To the contrary of what people posted here, larvae at least are more digestible than regular meat. They taste good. And larvae have a nearly ideal fat/protein ratio, as well as larger amounts of micro-nutrients than meat (zinc, copper, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins B for starters). Would you rather eat a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar? Because that is what you ate this morning for breakfast. Even if it is not mutant and GMO, it is hell on your gut and your insulin.

    Really, most people here have only a veneer of a scientific approach to things. I am enthusiastic that goof fat (the really limiting macro-nutrient in our food supply) can be obtained directly from wood, in amounts per acre far exceeding the amounts obtained through grazing. But insects are not a complete animal replacement. They lack the essential fatty acids of fatty fish, the retinol of liver and eyes, and the vit. D of pastured lard. Although I wonder how many of you eat liver and lard.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @glib

    I eat liver and would eat lard were it easily available to me, so I'll bite.

    Although not particularly common, raw meat and fish were occasionally consumed in the West before the introduction of sushi (carpaccio, steak tartare, ceviche...). Likewise, seaweed used to be eaten in some places in the British Isles. In fact, in Philadelphia-style steak, we can see that at least some people preferred raw or extremely rare levels of cooking. So, the "ick" factor of raw fish was more habituation than anything, owing to the fish supply chains in the West, which didn't deliver fresh fish to many places outside coastal cities, and the fish dishes of the cultures, which often prepared fish whole or in fillets (nobody eats raw fillet, even in Japan).

    Insects, I believe, tap into more inborn disgust reactions related to infestation and disease avoidance--feces, worms, maggots, flies, cockroaches and many other things related to death or rot trigger feelings that are rooted not in habit but in biology. I think this is why we have escargot, but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.

    I will grant that some other forms of insect may not trigger these reactions. I have never eaten a cricket, but I'm not turned off by them and would definitely in the right circumstance. I think insects that feed on rot are often flat and wide or wriggly due to the requirements of their lifestyles, but insects like crickets with more varied 3D shapes are potentially more appetizing. However, as Intelligent Dasein points out, something like termites is probably more efficient.

    Howevee, as many other commenters have pointed out, the only reason to choose crickets over cows is the environmental and economic pressure of immigration. (Here I discount vegan arguments as beneath discussion.). But even so, the contribution of the beef/dairy industry to greenhouse gases is miniscule compared to something like transportation, but where are the people saying we need to curtail trade or travel in order to keep increasing our population??

    Replies: @glib, @glib, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Alden
    @glib

    I love liver. Mostly because it’s meat and very low calorie. I like chicken and beef liver equally.

    , @TTSSYF
    @glib

    I don't eat organ meat because I don't like it, and I don't eat liver because it is the body's garbage can. I also don't chow down on lard, except to bake with it occasionally.

    You, Chrisnonymous, Anon, and others who like liver and lead and are open to worm smoothies can lead the charge. I'll continue to eat a diet heavy in fresh vegetables, avocados, soy burgers, fish, and chicken, with the occasional dinner of pork or beef. I suppose that makes me a Bad White, but oh well.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Steve in Greensboro
    @glib

    Would I rather eat a bowl of mealworms for breakfast or "a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar?"

    Is this a trick question?

    Replies: @glib

    , @DogAnecdote
    @glib

    Thank you. I think you may have meant something other than “goof fat,” but you make a good point.

    People can get protein from just about anywhere, but the essential fatty acids of which our brains are in large part made are, banning heroic techno-effort, to be found only in animal sources.

    All that aside, one may follow the principle of the zookeeper. If you want the animals to do well, feed them a diet as closely resembling that of their wild conspeciates as possible.

    The diet of wild humans is known, and those with an investigative bent can discover it by looking at things such as the ph of human stomachs, strontium-isotope analysis of the teeth of wild human populations, behavior of wild humans, etc.

    If you rely on books, magazine articles and the like to do the investigation for you, however, you are doomed to be misled.

    I’d reveal the answer, but all the eat-your-vegetables types will pile on.

  141. @Anon
    OT

    Is this a “Let’s Talk about My Hair” story, or a Juicey Smolier “Fake Hate Crime” story?:

    Three boys accused of assaulting girl, cutting her dreadlocks at private Virginia school
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sixth-grade-boys-accused-of-assaulting-classmate-cutting-her-hair-at-private-virginia-school/2019/09/26/4383b83e-e085-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    There’s a certain glass-table rape over-the-top aspect to the story. Were there any witnesses? And the word “nappy” is sort of like “noose,” in that it’s not something that white people use or think about that often, but black people are obsessed with it. And carrying around scissors on the schoolyard is like carrying around a vial of bleach while out taking a nighttime walk.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Stealth

    I’m betting hoax. But maybe a pathetic one, as opposed to Smollet-like crime of self-promotion.

    I read the story on MSN, and it’s the typical premature, credulous account to which we’ve become accustomed. But it also features a TV news segment in which the child is interviewed:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boys-accused-of-pinning-down-black-girl-and-cutting-dreadlocks/ar-AAHUF8l?ocid=spartanntp

    To me, the girl is sympathetic when she says she feels she doesn’t deserve to be in a Christian school. But I suspect the reporter didn’t understand what the girl meant, and only ran the clip for its emotional impact. My supposition is that the girl is genuinely unhappy in this private school environment (for reasons anyone here could guess). Apparently she lives with her grandmother–there’s no mention of parents–so that’s another potential source of unhappiness in her life. Self-mutilation of one sort or another seems to be a common way that young girls express unhappiness; cutting one’s hair is a fairly benign variety.

    So a young girl cuts her hair in a moment of deep negative emotion. Perhaps she regrets it, but her grandmother notices, and the embarassed kid makes up a dramatic story where she’s the victim. The grandmother lodges a complaint; maybe there really are some kids who tease the girl; it could all have been dealt with in a sensitive way.

    But that’s when the credulous press gets into the act, hungry to exploit any whiff of racism and promote it to national prominence. Now everyone involved is backed into a corner, with no graceful way to back out, “revise” the story, apologize and quietly get on with life.

    I don’t doubt there may be some chicanery on the grandmother’s part, and the girl is obviously wrong to have started the hoax to begin with (if that’s indeed the case). And if she’s accused innocent boys as her assailants (indeed even if she vaguely fingered a gang of “white boys”) she’s done a terrible thing that deserves consequences. But what she doesn’t deserve, as a 12-year-old kid, is to be exploited as the latest face of the national “cause celebre” of our psychotic elites.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @ChrisZ

    That’s how the Twanna Brawley thing started. She wanted to avoid a beating by step father for staying out late. So she claimed she’d been kidnapped raped and beaten by s several upstate KKKers

    If you’ve ever worked in law enforcement or child services you know how viciously black women treat their children. That’s why they are way over represented in the foster home group home, placed in relatives homes, reform school population.
    Horrible grand mothers horrible mothers horrible children for thousands of years in Africa the Caribbean America or Europe.

    Given their lack of normal emotional and intellectual development most of them are incapable of raising normal children. Or the children are genetically incapable of growing up normal. Whatever

    From foster homes to prisons, blacks are the burden we bear. And I for one am sick of it.

    , @Aft
    @ChrisZ


    "They called me an 'attention-seeker'"
     
    Right.... They used the term "nappy" and called her an "attention-seeker" (said no white person, and no bully, ever, respectively)

    She wants to quit the school, she feels a little bit guilty about how she's going about it, and it probably has something to do with her odd looks and sexuality (and tension with her pastor parents...)
  142. @International Jew
    OT but an answer to the recurrent question here: how would the space race turned out if 1960s America had been as identity-obsessed as it is now?
    https://youtu.be/N3RjayAF0b4

    Replies: @jim jones, @El Dato, @Neuday

    Strong space wymen who need no radiation shielding or spare delta-V to get things done.

    It’s getting to the point where there is a ludicrous make-believe effort that “West-based” males and females are two different species that are in some competition. For the sparse resource of sports-groupie like bragging rights.

    So it not “Red Moon”, it’s “Male Moon”!!

    Eagerly awaiting a movie about the African Space Programme, beating everyone to the goal in the early 60s, because in an alternate history cross-atlantic slavery was never implemented and the US could not get all the black power to pull rocketry through.

    Here’s Soviet Mars, FTW!

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @El Dato

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhJKzuOb2w

  143. @Anon
    OT

    Is this a “Let’s Talk about My Hair” story, or a Juicey Smoleeyay “Fake Hate Crime” story?:

    Three boys accused of assaulting girl, cutting her dreadlocks at private Virginia school
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sixth-grade-boys-accused-of-assaulting-classmate-cutting-her-hair-at-private-virginia-school/2019/09/26/4383b83e-e085-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    There’s a certain glass-table rape over-the-top aspect to the story. Were there any witnesses? And the word “nappy” is sort of like “noose,” in that it’s not something that white people use or think about that often, but black people are obsessed with it. And carrying around scissors on the schoolyard is like carrying around a vial of bleach while out taking a nighttime walk.

    Replies: @Barnard

    The story has gone national now, my local news station has it on their website. Questions I had:

    1. No one noticed she hadn’t been eating lunch because the boys had been stealing it for weeks?
    2. No students or teachers noticed she was being held down, gagged and assaulted on a playground full of students?
    3. No students or teachers the rest of the day noticed that the dreads we cut off one side of her head the rest of the day?

    That the school uses the term alleged victim makes me think they already know it is a hoax.

  144. @Colin Wright
    @Lot

    '“The problem is that world population is soaring to unprecedented densities”

    Certain parts of it.'

    Virtually all of it. Almost all countries have populations that are greater than those they had a hundred years ago, and most have populations that are several times what they were a hundred years ago. We've gone from 120 million to about 320 million, China's population has increased about four-fold, Mexico's nine-fold, etc. Go back two hundred years and the numbers start getting silly. Go back further, and well... China's population, for example, historically fluctuated between sixty and one hundred and twenty million. Now it's a billion and a half.

    Objectively, we have a planet that is suffering from an infestation of humans, and even when there are other causes for our problems, the overpopulation aggravates matters. If, for example, global population was two billion, we wouldn't really have to worry about how our cattle were contributing to global warming.

    As I say, a proposal that we eat bugs isn't a solution; it's proof that there's a problem.

    Replies: @Charon, @Icy Blast, @nebulafox

    Well, the good news is that most of the developing world has gotten their act together. Outside of a few outliers and Africa, the level of dramatically reduced birth rates would have been altogether inconceivable for those looking at the data 50 years ago.

    The bad news is Africa: something has got to give. Nigeria simply does not have the ability to support population that is larger than the United States. Places like Rwanda and Uganda are seeing birth rates decline, so it can happen, but it isn’t happening consistently enough continent-wide to avoid the risk of Malthusian disaster in the future. That, and in places like India or Bangladesh, the birth rate might be down to 2 kids per woman, but the population crest is yet to arrive. Already the population pressure makes its effect felt for young people on the subcontinent: the amount of competition to get a basic standard of living is insane.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @nebulafox

    '...but it isn’t happening consistently enough continent-wide to avoid the risk of Malthusian disaster in the future. '

    The only thing that disturbs me about the Malthusian disaster is what'll happen en route to it.

    Lots of stupid protests demanding still more food aid for the poor Africans, still more blacks flooding into the rest of the world, total degradation of the environment in subsaharan Africa, and lots of unpleasant news footage.

    In my (frankly brutal, racist) view, we should just cut to it and limit the gross toll by having the disaster now -- while the numbers are smaller and the environment is less degraded. Why wait to see four hundred and fifty million Nigerians die horribly as the population of that state falls from five hundred million to fifty million when we can pull the plug now and watch a mere two hundred million die as it falls from three hundred million to one hundred million?

    Halt all exports of food and vaccines to the region. Halt exports of munitions as well -- just out of curiosity. I'm fairly sure the blacks can't or won't manufacture their own smallpox vaccine -- but will they prove capable of manufacturing more Kalashnikov ammunition?

  145. I’ve eaten bugs in Southeast Asia before. The larvae tasted good. I did not care for the other stuff, but that’s more because I’m hopelessly bad with manual dexterity than the taste: I have trouble eating crab or chicken off the bone, too.

    What irks me about this isn’t the idea of eating bugs, but the fact that our elites/gentry classes are specifically pushing this, among other things, so that they can invite 300 million more people in to secure their neo-feudal aims. Just as you’ll never see an upper-middle class liberal sending their kid to a “Diverse” school, they will continue eating steak as they nag other Americans to shift their tastes. Their prescriptions are for the serfs.

    And that’s causing the social fabric to rot. Say what you will about the English nobility, they were the first to put on their armor, they were the first on the ships, the first to disembark halfway around the world, the first over the trenches, the first up in the skies. That’s why they lasted so long-and why they never recovered from 1916. Our ruling classes are the polar opposite. They say one thing and do another. They are delusional enough to think that the hoi polloi will not notice that, and that this will not have consequences when they start imitating their behavior. You can get away with that, but not without hollowing out your legitimacy, if all you’ve got is the perch that you sit on. That can have fatal consequences if the wrong series of events happen. You won’t survive a hard enough storm without strong foundations.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous, BB753
  146. @El Dato
    @YetAnotherAnon

    While Aspies now need to consider whether they are two steps away from MENGELE HIMSELF and may need to undergo problem-reassignment treatment:

    Lengthy article in RT on the frankly unhealthy (to put it mildly; I actually think the Hoofed One has a Hoof in here) transgender industry:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/469766-transgender-pharma-drugs-surgery/


    Thus, with many millions of dollars in profit on the line, do the medical community and pharmaceutical companies have an incentive to promote risky hormonal treatment, together with the radical surgical procedures, to the public?

    Something similar is happening now in the United States with the deadly opioid epidemic. Big Pharma played no small part in getting these powerful painkillers to patients regardless of the safety hazards involved [I wonder who could be behind Big Pharma?]. According to The Kelsey Coalition, the situation with regards to hormone treatment is nearly identical.

    By way of example, the for-profit advocacy group cited Endo Pharmaceuticals, a pill manufacturer, which lost over $10 million in settling opioid lawsuits and was forced to abandon production of the pill. Instead, as the Kelsey Coalition told RT, the company is now “focusing on their testosterone line of products.” That may not sound like such a terrible thing, until it is realized that “almost every vocal pro-medicalization ‘gender expert’ in the US has an association with Endo Pharmaceutical as an advisor,” the group claimed.
     

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Alden

    I’m really not shocked, TBH. In the pre-1945 German speaking world, utterly obedient, dutiful, honest boys would have had sympathy, much more than “typical” children.

    Asperger’s basic thesis was that the above-average intelligence ones could serve society quite well if given proper support, and that had resonance in a culture that was rigid, strict, clear, and prized things that high-functioning autistics tended to epitomize.

  147. The thinking probably goes — “If they’ll buy and read the NYSlimes and believe it why not convince them to eat bugs?”

  148. @Anon
    The irony is that one of the first guys to promote eating insects was Arthur De Vany, who is the godfather of the "paleo" diet and lifestyle of eating mostly meat and protein and lifting weights. De Vany claims eating insects is "paleo" and that we have some sort of enzyme specially designed to digest insects.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @guest, @Anon

    If only we had an enzyme specially designed to digest horseshit. I’ll develop a taste for insects, as soon as Maureen Dowd and the rest of the masthead of The Paper of Altered Record each swallow one in front of me.

  149. @International Jew
    OT but an answer to the recurrent question here: how would the space race turned out if 1960s America had been as identity-obsessed as it is now?
    https://youtu.be/N3RjayAF0b4

    Replies: @jim jones, @El Dato, @Neuday

    The music for the trailer is Dream On. Indeed.

    If we’re to send females into space it would make sense to ensure only those over 40 go, for obvious reasons. I’m not saying that all women over 40 should be shot into space, no sir-ee.

  150. @Anonymous
    Pretend it's shrimp with wings.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Shrimp once tried to kill me via my immune system.

  151. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @dvorak


    International socialism is the eternal solution-looking-for-a-problem.

     

    Genesis 11:4: Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth."

    Replies: @El Dato

    When did the fear of being dispersed transmogrify into the Outward Urge?

  152. @Massimo Heitor
    I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent. Optimize for health. Consume a pill or a nutrient solution rather than food.

    Insects are an option. I suspect algae, plant, fungus, or bean or sprouted grain options might be more practical than insects.

    Many doctors and nutritionists say that vegan diets with some supplements are best for human health. Insects are obviously animals and not vegan or vegetarian. If insects aren't super food healthy, then why bother?

    Replies: @TWS, @peterike, @Random Smartaleck

    I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent.

    I really don’t understand all the hubbub about Soylent. It’s just yet another variation on enteric feeding formulas for people using g-tubes and in like situations, which have been around for ages. It’s only seen as something new and exciting by Silicon Valley gammas who have bought the marketing hype.

    And speaking as someone who was dependent on these formulas for a time… No, real food is far, far better, and provides better nutrition by far. Yes, they will keep you alive, but I would hope that more than mere survival is your goal…

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
    @Random Smartaleck


    I really don’t understand all the hubbub about Soylent. It’s just yet another variation on...
     
    Sure. Soylent is similar to Ensure. They are both meal replacement drinks. The big difference is the branding: Ensure is presented as normal food. Soylent is presented as this post-food futurist product.
    , @Massimo Heitor
    @Random Smartaleck


    And speaking as someone who was dependent on these formulas for a time… No, real food is far, far better, and provides better nutrition by far. Yes, they will keep you alive, but I would hope that more than mere survival is your goal…
     
    I'd absolutely like more than survival, I'd like optimal health. More strength, more energy, a sharp mind, I'd like to feel great, and even look nice, and not have a belly. Food is a tool to do that.

    I'm sorry to hear you were dependent on those formulas... I've been fortunate to not have been in that situation.

    Also, the current versions of Ensure + Soylent type products, they probably aren't that special. But, ideally, I'd like scientists + engineering types to create super foods.
  153. @bossel
    Funny, how many idiots are out there who think eating insects (or - gasp! - worms) is somehow worse than eating shrimps, crabs, snails or oysters.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @TTSSYF, @S. Anonyia

    Mountain oysters taste better than all of what you mentioned.

  154. @GermanReader2
    @istevefan

    What really infuriates me is that the people pushing this lifestyle (insect-eating, no cars etc.) on others on average are BIGGER polluters than the people they criticize. I would have a grudging respect for them if they practiced what they preached. Instead, my impression of them is that they criticize others as a sort of atonement for their own flaws, which are bigger than the flaws of the people they criticize.
    In Germany for example politicians and voters of the Green Party are the people who fly most frequently and the longest distances. Even politicians, who want to severely restrict cars in order to fight climate change, fly several times a year to such faraway places (from Germany) as Asia, Australia and America on holiday. This has led to people on the right combing the Instagram-pages of the most vocal climate-change activists/politicians, make some funny videos/montages about their trips and assign hashtags such as #LongdistanceLuisa and #KerosineKatha.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnmXD5F1ZpQ

    (This is #KerosineKatha a politician of the Green Party, who campaigned against the enlargement of the airport in the city she lived in)

    Replies: @El Dato, @istevefan

    You have to make Global Warming to fight Global Warming!

    (This is probably literally true; there is a lot of concrete to be poured to set up all those nuclear reactors .. what’s that? verboten too? ohferchristsake)

  155. @Icy Blast
    @Colin Wright

    Actually over-population is not a "problem" or an "issue" or a "crisis." But I've learned over the decades to not bother a religious Malthusian-Darwinist with facts. He or she is impervious to facts and is usually a devout watcher of PBS documentaries.

    Having said that, if you start killing people, you will have to be stopped.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Ah, you seem of the libertarian-forever-cornucopia persuasion. Don’t let reality mug you early.

    Having said that, if you start killing people, you will have to be stopped.

    You and what army in what circumstances and where?

  156. @Inquiring Mind
    @Anonymous

    The SCTV version of how Vidal and Mailer got along is much better:

    "We asked Norman Mailer to write a 60-second commercial for Tyde. Let's see how he made out."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVc8LGlR69c

    "Tyde. Best damn detergent in America."

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    That was funny as hell.

    SCTV has aged so much better than SNL.

  157. @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    I don’t think many Indians would be sold on the idea of eating flies.
     
    You don't know where that fly has been! Also, untouchables are anything but untouchable:


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-children-beaten-death-defecating-public-village-modi-gates-a9121511.html

    The Gates Foundation is coming to the rescue, though. And there is this charming salvo in the bowels battle:



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQFW20SNv0

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    A Boy And His Turds.


  158. From a less species-centric Green position, one might suppose that humans are the infestation that needs to be controlled by insects. I’ve always doubted the pop wisdom that an ET attack would unite mankind. I, myself, would probably conspire with the aliens at this point. Seeing the population of NYC devoured by Horrible Hamilton would give me deep pleasure.

  159. @dvorak

    the good Whites are forever on the offensive
     
    From 1949-1989, goodwhites demanded international socialism because the alternative was nuclear war.

    From 1989-present, goodwhites have demanded international socialism because the alternative is climate catastrophe.

    International socialism is the eternal solution-looking-for-a-problem.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Reg Cæsar, @SF

    From 1949-1989, goodwhites demanded international socialism because the alternative was nuclear war.

    Never mind the fact that they are the only ones who have ever waged it.

  160. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    Reading articles like this, one can’t help but get the feeling that the insect-eating drive isn’t really about environmental benefits(assuming they even exist). If it were about saving Mother Earth, they’d be pushing for increased vegetable consumption, replacing a increasing amount of meat with legumes/pulses. It’s like the elites have decided that this is a way for them to test just how much control they have over us. Get them to east insects and you can make ’em do anything.

  161. OT: Someone mentioned this earlier on the UK Supreme Court thread, but I thought it was interesting: Labour votes to throw UK borders wide open, and give all UK residents full voting rights.

    Conservatives in the US pursue small-bore initiatives like high-tech gerrymandering, requiting voters to present ID’s to vote (the nerve of them), and so on. But the Left knows how to really fix elections. If you need a million more votes to win, simply import them.

  162. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Apologies if this has already been mentioned but possible hate hoax:
    White students ‘cut off’ black girl’s dreadlocks in Virginia

    Amari Allen says the assault happened during break time at her private school in Springfield, Virginia, on Monday.

    She alleges that the boys held her down on a slide and called her hair “ugly” and “nappy” and cut some off.

    The alleged attack took place at the Immanuel Christian School, where the US Vice-President’s wife teaches.

    $12 000 tuition according to the article

    “The boys came up to me and they ambushed me sort of, like caged me in,” Ms Allen told local media.

    “And so they put their hands over my mouth. They put my hands behind my back and they started cutting my hair and told me that I was ugly.”

    “They like took my lunch and ate it in front of me and told me I didn’t deserve it, that I could just starve and stuff like that,” Ms Allen added.

    Sounds like black girl with low self-esteem projecting. Maybe she secretly wants a weave make from an Indian lady’s tresses. Also, how many white tween boys have nappy in their vocabulary in 2019? I always thought of it as a black expression, which I never heard until the Imus uproar.

    The family say the incident only came to light on Wednesday when her grandmother noticed her hair was suddenly different lengths.

    So a black girl was assaulted by three white boys out of the blue and didn’t tell anyone for two days? This sounds way too much like modern black hair-insecurity psychodrama. My bullshit detector is howling.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Also, how many white tween boys have nappy in their vocabulary in 2019? I always thought of it as a black expression...
     
    Millions. It's an "All-Black" expression:


    https://www.kmart.co.nz/wcsstore/Kmart/images/ncatalog/f/9/41930649-1-f.jpg
    , @Alden
    @Anonymous

    Here’s my take on it ;from an experienced mother.

    The girl herself with or without a black girl friend snipped at her hair for whatever reason. When grandma noticed it, grandma reacted in the traditional black mamma grandma way. As they always do, black grandma reacted with shrieking slapping and shaming. So the girl made the story up.

    Probably the girl wanted shorter braids or a different hairstyle. She’d asked mamma or grandma and been shrieked at. So she tried it herself.

    The word nappy is a sure give away. And how did this get into national news? Probably because Mrs Pence teaches there. Evil evil bad White southern baptists and evangelicals.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  163. @nebulafox
    @Colin Wright

    Well, the good news is that most of the developing world has gotten their act together. Outside of a few outliers and Africa, the level of dramatically reduced birth rates would have been altogether inconceivable for those looking at the data 50 years ago.

    The bad news is Africa: something has got to give. Nigeria simply does not have the ability to support population that is larger than the United States. Places like Rwanda and Uganda are seeing birth rates decline, so it can happen, but it isn't happening consistently enough continent-wide to avoid the risk of Malthusian disaster in the future. That, and in places like India or Bangladesh, the birth rate might be down to 2 kids per woman, but the population crest is yet to arrive. Already the population pressure makes its effect felt for young people on the subcontinent: the amount of competition to get a basic standard of living is insane.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘…but it isn’t happening consistently enough continent-wide to avoid the risk of Malthusian disaster in the future. ‘

    The only thing that disturbs me about the Malthusian disaster is what’ll happen en route to it.

    Lots of stupid protests demanding still more food aid for the poor Africans, still more blacks flooding into the rest of the world, total degradation of the environment in subsaharan Africa, and lots of unpleasant news footage.

    In my (frankly brutal, racist) view, we should just cut to it and limit the gross toll by having the disaster now — while the numbers are smaller and the environment is less degraded. Why wait to see four hundred and fifty million Nigerians die horribly as the population of that state falls from five hundred million to fifty million when we can pull the plug now and watch a mere two hundred million die as it falls from three hundred million to one hundred million?

    Halt all exports of food and vaccines to the region. Halt exports of munitions as well — just out of curiosity. I’m fairly sure the blacks can’t or won’t manufacture their own smallpox vaccine — but will they prove capable of manufacturing more Kalashnikov ammunition?

  164. @JimB
    Let them eat cicadas.

    Replies: @Cortes

    It’s not a bug. It’s a feature.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Cortes

    In the tradition of "It's a floor wax and a dessert topping," it's a bug and an appetizer.

    Replies: @Cortes

  165. @Jon Baptist
    @Colin Wright


    world population is soaring to unprecedented densities
     
    You agree then with Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world.
    Since overpopulation is such a problem, the elitists of the world, whose ideas you apparently support, instituted the Population Council that promote homosexuality as documented in the Jaffe Memo of 1969.
    Eugenicists promoted and established Planned Parenthood and setup shop primarily to eliminate growing families in the inner cities and solve the "Negro Problem" as stated by Margaret Sanger.
    Supremacists like Bill Gates fund and promote vaccines throughout the world to minimize the "carbon footprint" of humanity.
    The CFR and its members, like George Soros for example, fund young proxy warriors like Greta Thurnberg and David Hogg through the media that is completely linked within the CFR to brainwash younger generations into giving up all of their personal control to the totalitarian and tyrannical One World Government.
    And yes. There is also the cute and fuzzy Jews, of course, that implemented feminism, control government policy and continually raise taxes for the middle and lower goy classes to take moms out of the home and making them wage slaves instead of nurturing children and maintaining the family unit.
    A couple of questions come to mind. If overpopulation is such a problem, why do not the alarmists-supremacists of the world bite the bullet first.....economically? Secondly, if the mass media absolutely lie about everything, why should we believe them when they chant in unison that more people living in the world is such a huge problem?

    Mass media is a helluva drug. Read more articles and archives at places like Unz and watch less of CNN.
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1169416370318204929/pu/vid/720x400/U_9q9kK1Iw9E4jrN.mp4

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Reg Cæsar

    ‘You agree then with Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world…’

    The equivalent of that would be asserting because I felt the Versailles Treaty was unfair to Germany that I approved of gassing the Jews.

    No…I don’t need to agree with ‘Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world’ to observe that world population has reached unprecedented heights and that this fact is contributing to a wide range of problems and forcing us to limit our freedom in various ways that we otherwise wouldn’t have to.

    Ultimately, if I’m the only driver on the freeway, it’s basically my business how fast I want to drive. If it’s bumper to bumper, some regulation will indeed be necessary.

    Here’s a more ordinary example. My wife and I were up in Idaho — still the land of the free, but now with a lot more people exercising their freedom. So there was this lake: totally unregulated camping, no fees, go there and be a free American.

    It looked pretty good when we pulled in, too. Beautiful…until we got a closer look.

    Human and dog feces everywhere. No Paternalistic government charging camping fees and putting in pit toilets, you see.

    Now, with a tenth as many Idahoans, total freedom could work. With the numbers the state has now, total freedom’s not so hot.

    So no, I don’t need to agree with ‘Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world’ to note that there are more other people around than I would like.

  166. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.
     
    But they tasted better.

    Mark Schatzker examined cookbooks from the early 20th century and found that chicken recipes rarely called for more than salt and pepper, even though great-grandma had a full rack of spices to employ. They simply weren't needed. The fast was in the bird itself.

    Now, after a century of breeding for size and disease resistance, the flavor is gone. So here come the dressings and all the calories with them.

    I wish he got around to doing a video about chicken, but his one on chocolate (in which he looks like Butt-Head's more intelligent twin) makes the same point:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzEn_tduKOY


    Don't miss his other ones on Irish stew and vegetable murder.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Redneck farmer, @Romanian, @Anon

    My father grows his own vegetables, chickens and sometimes ducks, geese and turkeys. He has different breeds for eggs and meat, but they are the peasant variety, so not much difference. There is little meat on the chickens, but it is very flavored. I think that the problem is also with the stuff they pump into the chickens to get them growing even faster and to keep them healthy while they are, pun intended, cooped up in the industrial farm space. The difference between what I eat at or from home and what I get from a restaurant or supermarket is significant. Going to supermarkets abroad, such as the US, it is even more so.

  167. @Charon
    @Colin Wright

    The relationship of the human race to the natural world is almost precisely that of a cancer to a living organism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘The relationship of the human race to the natural world is almost precisely that of a cancer to a living organism.’

    Arguably — but I’m firmly on the side of the cancer.

    I’d just rather leave my host in good health — and the less we metastasize, the less we need to circumscribe our own behavior to ensure that.

    I can go ahead and chop down trees and have a campfire every night — so long as I don’t have a hundred million buddies doing the same thing. The fewer of us there are, the more we can just do as we please.

    It irritates me that I have to throw back any non-hatchery coho salmon I catch. Cut down on how many other people there are out there fishing and doing all the rest of it, and I won’t have to.

  168. @Redneck farmer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Also, they get slaughtered earlier. If you eat a chicken that's been around for nine months, instead of three, there's some taste.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Also, they get slaughtered earlier. If you eat a chicken that’s been around for nine months, instead of three, there’s some taste.

    That’s what he says about Irish stew– use mutton, not lamb.

    But don’t do what this other Torontonian does– she’s apparently on laughing gas:

    “It Doesn’t Taste Like Chicken”, indeed. When I want something that doesn’t taste like chicken, I’ll buy chicken. It’s cheaper and easier!

  169. @Anon
    OT

    Is this a “Let’s Talk about My Hair” story, or a Juicey Smolier “Fake Hate Crime” story?:

    Three boys accused of assaulting girl, cutting her dreadlocks at private Virginia school
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/sixth-grade-boys-accused-of-assaulting-classmate-cutting-her-hair-at-private-virginia-school/2019/09/26/4383b83e-e085-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

    There’s a certain glass-table rape over-the-top aspect to the story. Were there any witnesses? And the word “nappy” is sort of like “noose,” in that it’s not something that white people use or think about that often, but black people are obsessed with it. And carrying around scissors on the schoolyard is like carrying around a vial of bleach while out taking a nighttime walk.

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Stealth

    We’re all brought up to trust the press/evening news, but now, anytime I hear a story that supports the white-people-bad narrative, I ask myself things like, “did this really happen,” and “what are they not telling us?”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Stealth

    'We’re all brought up to trust the press/evening news, but now, anytime I hear a story that supports the white-people-bad narrative, I ask myself things like, “did this really happen,” and “what are they not telling us?”'

    They don't have to actually lie (although they do that as well).

    Selective story hour will suffice. That's usually what we get.

  170. @Anonymous
    OT: Apologies if this has already been mentioned but possible hate hoax:
    White students 'cut off' black girl's dreadlocks in Virginia

    Amari Allen says the assault happened during break time at her private school in Springfield, Virginia, on Monday.

    She alleges that the boys held her down on a slide and called her hair "ugly" and "nappy" and cut some off.

    The alleged attack took place at the Immanuel Christian School, where the US Vice-President's wife teaches.
     
    $12 000 tuition according to the article

    "The boys came up to me and they ambushed me sort of, like caged me in," Ms Allen told local media.

    "And so they put their hands over my mouth. They put my hands behind my back and they started cutting my hair and told me that I was ugly."

    "They like took my lunch and ate it in front of me and told me I didn't deserve it, that I could just starve and stuff like that," Ms Allen added.
     
    Sounds like black girl with low self-esteem projecting. Maybe she secretly wants a weave make from an Indian lady's tresses. Also, how many white tween boys have nappy in their vocabulary in 2019? I always thought of it as a black expression, which I never heard until the Imus uproar.

    The family say the incident only came to light on Wednesday when her grandmother noticed her hair was suddenly different lengths.
     
    So a black girl was assaulted by three white boys out of the blue and didn't tell anyone for two days? This sounds way too much like modern black hair-insecurity psychodrama. My bullshit detector is howling.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Also, how many white tween boys have nappy in their vocabulary in 2019? I always thought of it as a black expression…

    Millions. It’s an “All-Black” expression:

  171. @Cortes
    @JimB

    It’s not a bug. It’s a feature.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    In the tradition of “It’s a floor wax and a dessert topping,” it’s a bug and an appetizer.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Steve Sailer

    Only an appetizer until it’s reformed *

    Then it’s

    Entree..Cicada Porterhouse...

    Still, good for the Dominionists and Jews who shave.

    * https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0109nr5

  172. @Hypnotoad666
    As long as the contents are properly labeled.

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2odo4b

    Replies: @Kibernetika

    Yes! The Frog and Peach was a great restaurant, too:

  173. @Steve Sailer
    @Cortes

    In the tradition of "It's a floor wax and a dessert topping," it's a bug and an appetizer.

    Replies: @Cortes

    Only an appetizer until it’s reformed *

    Then it’s

    Entree..Cicada Porterhouse…

    Still, good for the Dominionists and Jews who shave.

    * https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0109nr5

  174. @Anonymous
    OT: Apologies if this has already been mentioned but possible hate hoax:
    White students 'cut off' black girl's dreadlocks in Virginia

    Amari Allen says the assault happened during break time at her private school in Springfield, Virginia, on Monday.

    She alleges that the boys held her down on a slide and called her hair "ugly" and "nappy" and cut some off.

    The alleged attack took place at the Immanuel Christian School, where the US Vice-President's wife teaches.
     
    $12 000 tuition according to the article

    "The boys came up to me and they ambushed me sort of, like caged me in," Ms Allen told local media.

    "And so they put their hands over my mouth. They put my hands behind my back and they started cutting my hair and told me that I was ugly."

    "They like took my lunch and ate it in front of me and told me I didn't deserve it, that I could just starve and stuff like that," Ms Allen added.
     
    Sounds like black girl with low self-esteem projecting. Maybe she secretly wants a weave make from an Indian lady's tresses. Also, how many white tween boys have nappy in their vocabulary in 2019? I always thought of it as a black expression, which I never heard until the Imus uproar.

    The family say the incident only came to light on Wednesday when her grandmother noticed her hair was suddenly different lengths.
     
    So a black girl was assaulted by three white boys out of the blue and didn't tell anyone for two days? This sounds way too much like modern black hair-insecurity psychodrama. My bullshit detector is howling.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Here’s my take on it ;from an experienced mother.

    The girl herself with or without a black girl friend snipped at her hair for whatever reason. When grandma noticed it, grandma reacted in the traditional black mamma grandma way. As they always do, black grandma reacted with shrieking slapping and shaming. So the girl made the story up.

    Probably the girl wanted shorter braids or a different hairstyle. She’d asked mamma or grandma and been shrieked at. So she tried it herself.

    The word nappy is a sure give away. And how did this get into national news? Probably because Mrs Pence teaches there. Evil evil bad White southern baptists and evangelicals.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Alden

    It's international news. The article I linked to was on the BBC website. I'm sure this is the kind of hard-hitting journalism John Reith had in mind when he founded the Beeb.

  175. @dvorak

    the good Whites are forever on the offensive
     
    From 1949-1989, goodwhites demanded international socialism because the alternative was nuclear war.

    From 1989-present, goodwhites have demanded international socialism because the alternative is climate catastrophe.

    International socialism is the eternal solution-looking-for-a-problem.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @Reg Cæsar, @SF

    I’m sure there are a lot of right wing survivalists researching edible insects, not as a moral good, but as a way to survive when things get really bad and there isn’t any game to shoot.

  176. Eating insects isn’t very difficult, really. It’s not as tasty as a can of SpaghettiOs (yummy: carbs and sugar!), but that’s what Texas Pete is for. Or spaghetti sauce. Most guys who have had to eat insects die from causes unrelated to bugs!

  177. @El Dato
    @International Jew

    Strong space wymen who need no radiation shielding or spare delta-V to get things done.

    It's getting to the point where there is a ludicrous make-believe effort that "West-based" males and females are two different species that are in some competition. For the sparse resource of sports-groupie like bragging rights.

    So it not "Red Moon", it's "Male Moon"!!

    Eagerly awaiting a movie about the African Space Programme, beating everyone to the goal in the early 60s, because in an alternate history cross-atlantic slavery was never implemented and the US could not get all the black power to pull rocketry through.

    Here's Soviet Mars, FTW!

    https://i.imgur.com/eEmDlzJ.jpg

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  178. @El Dato
    @YetAnotherAnon

    While Aspies now need to consider whether they are two steps away from MENGELE HIMSELF and may need to undergo problem-reassignment treatment:

    Lengthy article in RT on the frankly unhealthy (to put it mildly; I actually think the Hoofed One has a Hoof in here) transgender industry:

    https://www.rt.com/usa/469766-transgender-pharma-drugs-surgery/


    Thus, with many millions of dollars in profit on the line, do the medical community and pharmaceutical companies have an incentive to promote risky hormonal treatment, together with the radical surgical procedures, to the public?

    Something similar is happening now in the United States with the deadly opioid epidemic. Big Pharma played no small part in getting these powerful painkillers to patients regardless of the safety hazards involved [I wonder who could be behind Big Pharma?]. According to The Kelsey Coalition, the situation with regards to hormone treatment is nearly identical.

    By way of example, the for-profit advocacy group cited Endo Pharmaceuticals, a pill manufacturer, which lost over $10 million in settling opioid lawsuits and was forced to abandon production of the pill. Instead, as the Kelsey Coalition told RT, the company is now “focusing on their testosterone line of products.” That may not sound like such a terrible thing, until it is realized that “almost every vocal pro-medicalization ‘gender expert’ in the US has an association with Endo Pharmaceutical as an advisor,” the group claimed.
     

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Alden

    It’s probably because transgender treatment is now covered by insurance. It’s no longer an elective paid by the patient costing whatever the Dr thinks he she can get, like cosmetic plastic surgery. Before it was covered by insurance, few could easily afford the hormones and surgery. Now It’s covered by insurance and the patient has already paid for it. Or in some cases. The taxpayers. Soon the local free county hospitals will open up a tranny clinic along with peds ortho etc

  179. @ChrisZ
    @Anon

    I'm betting hoax. But maybe a pathetic one, as opposed to Smollet-like crime of self-promotion.

    I read the story on MSN, and it's the typical premature, credulous account to which we've become accustomed. But it also features a TV news segment in which the child is interviewed:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boys-accused-of-pinning-down-black-girl-and-cutting-dreadlocks/ar-AAHUF8l?ocid=spartanntp

    To me, the girl is sympathetic when she says she feels she doesn't deserve to be in a Christian school. But I suspect the reporter didn't understand what the girl meant, and only ran the clip for its emotional impact. My supposition is that the girl is genuinely unhappy in this private school environment (for reasons anyone here could guess). Apparently she lives with her grandmother--there's no mention of parents--so that's another potential source of unhappiness in her life. Self-mutilation of one sort or another seems to be a common way that young girls express unhappiness; cutting one's hair is a fairly benign variety.

    So a young girl cuts her hair in a moment of deep negative emotion. Perhaps she regrets it, but her grandmother notices, and the embarassed kid makes up a dramatic story where she's the victim. The grandmother lodges a complaint; maybe there really are some kids who tease the girl; it could all have been dealt with in a sensitive way.

    But that's when the credulous press gets into the act, hungry to exploit any whiff of racism and promote it to national prominence. Now everyone involved is backed into a corner, with no graceful way to back out, "revise" the story, apologize and quietly get on with life.

    I don't doubt there may be some chicanery on the grandmother's part, and the girl is obviously wrong to have started the hoax to begin with (if that's indeed the case). And if she's accused innocent boys as her assailants (indeed even if she vaguely fingered a gang of "white boys") she's done a terrible thing that deserves consequences. But what she doesn't deserve, as a 12-year-old kid, is to be exploited as the latest face of the national "cause celebre" of our psychotic elites.

    Replies: @Alden, @Aft

    That’s how the Twanna Brawley thing started. She wanted to avoid a beating by step father for staying out late. So she claimed she’d been kidnapped raped and beaten by s several upstate KKKers

    If you’ve ever worked in law enforcement or child services you know how viciously black women treat their children. That’s why they are way over represented in the foster home group home, placed in relatives homes, reform school population.
    Horrible grand mothers horrible mothers horrible children for thousands of years in Africa the Caribbean America or Europe.

    Given their lack of normal emotional and intellectual development most of them are incapable of raising normal children. Or the children are genetically incapable of growing up normal. Whatever

    From foster homes to prisons, blacks are the burden we bear. And I for one am sick of it.

  180. @Faraday's Bobcat
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1892_Nebraska_Bugeaters_football_team

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer

    I still have a Bugeaters T-shirt I bought in Nebraska back in the '80s. It was unofficial then, but the school has sincejumped on the retro bandwagon. It brought me a lot of compliments.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  181. @Jon Baptist
    @Colin Wright


    world population is soaring to unprecedented densities
     
    You agree then with Bernie Sanders and the rest of the psychos of the world.
    Since overpopulation is such a problem, the elitists of the world, whose ideas you apparently support, instituted the Population Council that promote homosexuality as documented in the Jaffe Memo of 1969.
    Eugenicists promoted and established Planned Parenthood and setup shop primarily to eliminate growing families in the inner cities and solve the "Negro Problem" as stated by Margaret Sanger.
    Supremacists like Bill Gates fund and promote vaccines throughout the world to minimize the "carbon footprint" of humanity.
    The CFR and its members, like George Soros for example, fund young proxy warriors like Greta Thurnberg and David Hogg through the media that is completely linked within the CFR to brainwash younger generations into giving up all of their personal control to the totalitarian and tyrannical One World Government.
    And yes. There is also the cute and fuzzy Jews, of course, that implemented feminism, control government policy and continually raise taxes for the middle and lower goy classes to take moms out of the home and making them wage slaves instead of nurturing children and maintaining the family unit.
    A couple of questions come to mind. If overpopulation is such a problem, why do not the alarmists-supremacists of the world bite the bullet first.....economically? Secondly, if the mass media absolutely lie about everything, why should we believe them when they chant in unison that more people living in the world is such a huge problem?

    Mass media is a helluva drug. Read more articles and archives at places like Unz and watch less of CNN.
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1169416370318204929/pu/vid/720x400/U_9q9kK1Iw9E4jrN.mp4

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Reg Cæsar

    Jews, of course, that implemented feminism

    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist. When Seneca Falls was invaded by harridans, Jewesses were still in the shtetls.

    You and Colin should find something to agree on– you both likely believe those of us wrong who think “the fewer Mohammedans, the better”.

    The “unprecedented densities” isn’t even debatable, as this graphic shows. The West, and much of the East, has already solved its growth problem– if it weren’t for immigration.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    You don't seem to understand.

    Suffragettes were in no wise the same as feminists. Giving women the right to vote might arguably have had long-term unintended corrosive effects on the polity, but suffragettes for all their supposed shrewishness still knew they were women, and they knew what women are and want and are supposed to do. They may have been deluded about what the vote would do to femininity (and this was discussed at length by their opponents) but since it was a first-time experiment, there was no way to know or prove anything.

    Feminists on the other hand told women to want to be imitation men. There would no longer really be women as such, just Men Type A and mini-Men Type B. Women were told to swap the home for an office cubicle, then to neglect their children, then to delay having children, then to not have children at all, then to adopt the foreign replacement children of aliens, then to give the whole thing up for white wine and cats, and just let the foreign invaders do all the woman stuff for them.

    This of course has had devastating (and entirely predictable) effects on White fertility and White family formation, resulting in the catastrophic White death spiral we see today.

    And yes, Jews were overwhelmingly the leaders on all fronts of this genocidal movement.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @ATBOTL
    @Reg Cæsar

    WASPs were completely responsible for that atrocious movement. We don't talk about the WASP problem enough. I'm gonna call it the WQ from now on.

    We need to talk more about the history of WASP liberals in Britain and America. It's really important and understudied. I for one wish we didn't have to talk about Jews so much. Jews force us to talk about them by creating most of the anti-white propaganda in the media and leading the effort to censor pro-white voices.

    , @Jon Baptist
    @Reg Cæsar


    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist
     
    The word "suffragist" was not in my post. I was referring to crazy radical feminism.
    "Naomi Wolf pointed out in the Fall 2005 issue of Heeb, feminism and Judaism go together like Courtney Love and hitting people with microphones" -
    https://forward.com/culture/2305/why-are-there-so-many-jewish-feminists/
    https://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2013/02/20/the-feminist-movement-what-happened-and-why/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think he means Jewish women started second wave feminism, primarily because they were sick of the poor treatment their religion/culture subjected women to by their husbands, especially relative to the WASPs whom Jews considered their rivals for money/influence at the time. There was a lot of psychology embedded in second wave feminism. It changed the divorce rate, whereas first wave feminism didn’t much.

    First wave feminism was about the vote. It didn’t really change social roles or family structure/planning for the majority of women or the family. Wealthy and middle class women were mostly housewives, poorer and working class women worked in factories, farms etc as they always had, and first wave feminism allowed talented women who weren’t that interested in family obligations to have more of a chance to formally enter fields like law, science, medicine etc. Though in most post-Renaissance European societies (maybe less so in America because it was a frontier) wealthy women already had considerable influence in the arts, music, fashion, writing, etc. As tastemakers and creators- there were probably more famous female painters in the 1700s in Europe than today!

    Third wave feminism was led by gen X punkettes who wanted to be feminists and get the perks of feminism while also going back to lipstick and pink and sexy clothing without feeling guilty.

    We are on the 4th wave now, intersectional feminism. It is primarily led by vocal high T “lesbians” aka transvestites (they are not surgically altered for the most part, so it’s hard to call them transgendered) as well as various women of color obsessed with post-colonial theory, and a few nicety-nice shy white women who had a bad time in high school and want to stop other women from wearing sexy clothing. This group acts as the doormat/foundation to prop up their tranny overlords.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  182. @Steve Sailer
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    Thanks!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I still have a Bugeaters T-shirt I bought in Nebraska back in the ’80s. It was unofficial then, but the school has sincejumped on the retro bandwagon. It brought me a lot of compliments.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Skimming the comments, I at first thought you mentioned a Rugeaters T-shirt... gotta get me one of those! I thought.

  183. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From Modern Farmer :

    This Trick Might Actually Get Americans to Eat Bugs

    Dan Nosowitz

    The quest to get Americans to eat bugs has not, in any kind of broad systemic way, caught on.
     
    Check out the comments below the article—who knew Jews were so obsessed with modern farming?

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @John Cunningham, @Lot, @Daniel Williams, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Whitey Whiteman III, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo

    Comments appear to have been removed from the article? Can’t see them. I wonder why.

  184. @Random Smartaleck
    @Massimo Heitor


    I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent.
     
    I really don't understand all the hubbub about Soylent. It's just yet another variation on enteric feeding formulas for people using g-tubes and in like situations, which have been around for ages. It's only seen as something new and exciting by Silicon Valley gammas who have bought the marketing hype.

    And speaking as someone who was dependent on these formulas for a time... No, real food is far, far better, and provides better nutrition by far. Yes, they will keep you alive, but I would hope that more than mere survival is your goal...

    Replies: @Massimo Heitor, @Massimo Heitor

    I really don’t understand all the hubbub about Soylent. It’s just yet another variation on…

    Sure. Soylent is similar to Ensure. They are both meal replacement drinks. The big difference is the branding: Ensure is presented as normal food. Soylent is presented as this post-food futurist product.

  185. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jon Baptist


    Jews, of course, that implemented feminism
     
    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist. When Seneca Falls was invaded by harridans, Jewesses were still in the shtetls.

    You and Colin should find something to agree on-- you both likely believe those of us wrong who think "the fewer Mohammedans, the better".

    The "unprecedented densities" isn't even debatable, as this graphic shows. The West, and much of the East, has already solved its growth problem-- if it weren't for immigration.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @ATBOTL, @Jon Baptist, @S. Anonyia

    You don’t seem to understand.

    Suffragettes were in no wise the same as feminists. Giving women the right to vote might arguably have had long-term unintended corrosive effects on the polity, but suffragettes for all their supposed shrewishness still knew they were women, and they knew what women are and want and are supposed to do. They may have been deluded about what the vote would do to femininity (and this was discussed at length by their opponents) but since it was a first-time experiment, there was no way to know or prove anything.

    Feminists on the other hand told women to want to be imitation men. There would no longer really be women as such, just Men Type A and mini-Men Type B. Women were told to swap the home for an office cubicle, then to neglect their children, then to delay having children, then to not have children at all, then to adopt the foreign replacement children of aliens, then to give the whole thing up for white wine and cats, and just let the foreign invaders do all the woman stuff for them.

    This of course has had devastating (and entirely predictable) effects on White fertility and White family formation, resulting in the catastrophic White death spiral we see today.

    And yes, Jews were overwhelmingly the leaders on all fronts of this genocidal movement.

    • Agree: Cortes, Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    And yes, Jews were overwhelmingly the leaders on all fronts of this genocidal movement.
     
    Betty Friedan just copied Simone de Beauvoir, who probably sold more in English translation than in her native land. Jews aren't a particularly innovative race.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  186. @Redneck farmer
    @Twinkie

    Because, thank God, you're not po yellow trash anymore!

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Never was poor. Was middle class growing up in Asia. Roasted silkworm pupae was popular all over East Asia and consumed by many people: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beondegi

    They are actually kind of a super food – loaded with protein and fiber and minimal carbs/sugar. Promotes fat- and sugar-burning:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4241922/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422715/

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Twinkie

    Were they flavored in Korea when you ate them? (They are flavored in Japan.)

    I saw Africans eating huge, huge larvae of something once on TV, but they preferred to eat in them in a kind of thick stew made from the peanut butter they were given by aide workers. I think usually insects eaten as food are highly spiced or sweetened and have the bejesus cooked out of them first.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  187. @Random Smartaleck
    @Massimo Heitor


    I am excited and optimistic about more engineered nutrition like Soylent.
     
    I really don't understand all the hubbub about Soylent. It's just yet another variation on enteric feeding formulas for people using g-tubes and in like situations, which have been around for ages. It's only seen as something new and exciting by Silicon Valley gammas who have bought the marketing hype.

    And speaking as someone who was dependent on these formulas for a time... No, real food is far, far better, and provides better nutrition by far. Yes, they will keep you alive, but I would hope that more than mere survival is your goal...

    Replies: @Massimo Heitor, @Massimo Heitor

    And speaking as someone who was dependent on these formulas for a time… No, real food is far, far better, and provides better nutrition by far. Yes, they will keep you alive, but I would hope that more than mere survival is your goal…

    I’d absolutely like more than survival, I’d like optimal health. More strength, more energy, a sharp mind, I’d like to feel great, and even look nice, and not have a belly. Food is a tool to do that.

    I’m sorry to hear you were dependent on those formulas… I’ve been fortunate to not have been in that situation.

    Also, the current versions of Ensure + Soylent type products, they probably aren’t that special. But, ideally, I’d like scientists + engineering types to create super foods.

  188. @GermanReader2
    @istevefan

    What really infuriates me is that the people pushing this lifestyle (insect-eating, no cars etc.) on others on average are BIGGER polluters than the people they criticize. I would have a grudging respect for them if they practiced what they preached. Instead, my impression of them is that they criticize others as a sort of atonement for their own flaws, which are bigger than the flaws of the people they criticize.
    In Germany for example politicians and voters of the Green Party are the people who fly most frequently and the longest distances. Even politicians, who want to severely restrict cars in order to fight climate change, fly several times a year to such faraway places (from Germany) as Asia, Australia and America on holiday. This has led to people on the right combing the Instagram-pages of the most vocal climate-change activists/politicians, make some funny videos/montages about their trips and assign hashtags such as #LongdistanceLuisa and #KerosineKatha.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnmXD5F1ZpQ

    (This is #KerosineKatha a politician of the Green Party, who campaigned against the enlargement of the airport in the city she lived in)

    Replies: @El Dato, @istevefan

    I’m surprised the authorities have not punished the people who made that parody. Surely they must have hurt the woman’s feelings.

    Also, why would a German Green politician go to Little Rock?

  189. @Anon
    The irony is that one of the first guys to promote eating insects was Arthur De Vany, who is the godfather of the "paleo" diet and lifestyle of eating mostly meat and protein and lifting weights. De Vany claims eating insects is "paleo" and that we have some sort of enzyme specially designed to digest insects.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @guest, @Anon

    HiCavemen were hunter-gatherers, and as such either hunted or gathered bugs. Whichever applies.

    It may have slipped everyone’s notice, but mankind developed a thing called agriculture. Which includes herding large beasts containing meat far more efficiently productive of human energy when cut up and consumed. I don’t advise going back to bugs anymore than walking across our continent to get back to the folks’ place for Thanksgiving instead of exploiting motorized lighter-than-air travel.

  190. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jon Baptist


    Jews, of course, that implemented feminism
     
    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist. When Seneca Falls was invaded by harridans, Jewesses were still in the shtetls.

    You and Colin should find something to agree on-- you both likely believe those of us wrong who think "the fewer Mohammedans, the better".

    The "unprecedented densities" isn't even debatable, as this graphic shows. The West, and much of the East, has already solved its growth problem-- if it weren't for immigration.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @ATBOTL, @Jon Baptist, @S. Anonyia

    WASPs were completely responsible for that atrocious movement. We don’t talk about the WASP problem enough. I’m gonna call it the WQ from now on.

    We need to talk more about the history of WASP liberals in Britain and America. It’s really important and understudied. I for one wish we didn’t have to talk about Jews so much. Jews force us to talk about them by creating most of the anti-white propaganda in the media and leading the effort to censor pro-white voices.

  191. @Lagertha
    @Kronos

    Is that a threat? Well, You just witnessed, over the last 2 years, that: designs suck.

    Replies: @Kronos

    I live in a moderate sized town.

    I’m just voicing what they (city slickers) think.

  192. @glib
    I am surprised at all the negativity about eating insects here. I am old enough to remember when even in the Bay Area most people considered eating raw fish disgusting. How did that turn out?

    Most people have chitinase (I get that if you are of pure Anglo stock you may not have it). If not, mushrooms would give you leaky gut. That takes care of the crunchy ones.

    To the contrary of what people posted here, larvae at least are more digestible than regular meat. They taste good. And larvae have a nearly ideal fat/protein ratio, as well as larger amounts of micro-nutrients than meat (zinc, copper, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins B for starters). Would you rather eat a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar? Because that is what you ate this morning for breakfast. Even if it is not mutant and GMO, it is hell on your gut and your insulin.

    Really, most people here have only a veneer of a scientific approach to things. I am enthusiastic that goof fat (the really limiting macro-nutrient in our food supply) can be obtained directly from wood, in amounts per acre far exceeding the amounts obtained through grazing. But insects are not a complete animal replacement. They lack the essential fatty acids of fatty fish, the retinol of liver and eyes, and the vit. D of pastured lard. Although I wonder how many of you eat liver and lard.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Alden, @TTSSYF, @Steve in Greensboro, @DogAnecdote

    I eat liver and would eat lard were it easily available to me, so I’ll bite.

    Although not particularly common, raw meat and fish were occasionally consumed in the West before the introduction of sushi (carpaccio, steak tartare, ceviche…). Likewise, seaweed used to be eaten in some places in the British Isles. In fact, in Philadelphia-style steak, we can see that at least some people preferred raw or extremely rare levels of cooking. So, the “ick” factor of raw fish was more habituation than anything, owing to the fish supply chains in the West, which didn’t deliver fresh fish to many places outside coastal cities, and the fish dishes of the cultures, which often prepared fish whole or in fillets (nobody eats raw fillet, even in Japan).

    Insects, I believe, tap into more inborn disgust reactions related to infestation and disease avoidance–feces, worms, maggots, flies, cockroaches and many other things related to death or rot trigger feelings that are rooted not in habit but in biology. I think this is why we have escargot, but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.

    I will grant that some other forms of insect may not trigger these reactions. I have never eaten a cricket, but I’m not turned off by them and would definitely in the right circumstance. I think insects that feed on rot are often flat and wide or wriggly due to the requirements of their lifestyles, but insects like crickets with more varied 3D shapes are potentially more appetizing. However, as Intelligent Dasein points out, something like termites is probably more efficient.

    Howevee, as many other commenters have pointed out, the only reason to choose crickets over cows is the environmental and economic pressure of immigration. (Here I discount vegan arguments as beneath discussion.). But even so, the contribution of the beef/dairy industry to greenhouse gases is miniscule compared to something like transportation, but where are the people saying we need to curtail trade or travel in order to keep increasing our population??

    • Replies: @glib
    @Chrisnonymous

    I fully concur with many here that insects are being pushed for sinister reasons. Just like global warming and mass immigration. I also concur that "cows create global warming" is not only an hoax, it is the opposite of truth. The effect of properly pastured animals is to create soil (that is, store carbon). Many videos by Allan Savory on youtube, but here is an american farmer on bio-mimicry and how ruminants are indispensable to the bacterial cycle that drives fertility

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yPjoh9YJe italian bug eaterMk&t=2359s

    (discussion on ruminants starts at around 22:00 but the whole video is worth watching). This guy does very well financially by using cows, and he even stores carbon for us.

    This said, two points

    1) the (white) country of carpaccio also eats bugs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu

    and those bugs are live and unpurged (just like we did in the old days. Unknown to most posters here, humans behaved like regular carnivores and regularly ate the full entrails of their kill). And, most shockingly, the italian bug eaters in Barbagia have the highest longevity in the world (the men. The women are second). you would have to buy the book to find out. Conclusion: bug eating is a fairly universal feature of mankind.

    https://www.bluezones.com/books/

    2) I recognize the potential for vast human health improvement, for us to get rid of grains, which are a tremendous source of disease through insulin resistance, inflammation, leaky gut, and blood-brain barrier jumping by unsavory molecules. You can grow good fat and proteins from wood!

    I am a near carnivore, and would welcome the opportunity to have that many more options. I would limit myself to high fat insects, larvae and termites. Alas, I only got to try them when traveling. But, honestly, those who despise bugs because they like their oatmeal cookie, I look down on them.

    , @glib
    @Chrisnonymous

    Oh, another thing. I have a network of grass-fed farmers since 2006. I treat them well (easy to do, they are salt of the earth types), pay immediately, and give them simple orders (say, a whole steer). They too treat me well, and I often get freebies. Bones for bone broth, including marrow bones, offal (beef, heart, tongue), bovine backfat for tallow, and although I never got leaf fat from a pig, I did get skin fat for free. It is then a simple procedure to make and store tens of pounds of tallow and lard.

    All this noble food, free, no doubt due to other customers only wanting muscle meat. so give it a try if you are in a good area (I am in Michigan). But bug larvae are noble food as well.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Chrisnonymous


    ...but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.
     
    Do they serve their mascot in UCSC's dining halls?




    https://timekeepingscore.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/top10_mascots_banana_alt.jpg?w=260

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  193. @Twinkie
    @Redneck farmer

    Never was poor. Was middle class growing up in Asia. Roasted silkworm pupae was popular all over East Asia and consumed by many people: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beondegi

    They are actually kind of a super food - loaded with protein and fiber and minimal carbs/sugar. Promotes fat- and sugar-burning:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4241922/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21422715/

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Were they flavored in Korea when you ate them? (They are flavored in Japan.)

    I saw Africans eating huge, huge larvae of something once on TV, but they preferred to eat in them in a kind of thick stew made from the peanut butter they were given by aide workers. I think usually insects eaten as food are highly spiced or sweetened and have the bejesus cooked out of them first.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Chrisnonymous

    I had them in both Japan and South Korea, and both were flavored.

  194. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer

    I still have a Bugeaters T-shirt I bought in Nebraska back in the '80s. It was unofficial then, but the school has sincejumped on the retro bandwagon. It brought me a lot of compliments.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Skimming the comments, I at first thought you mentioned a Rugeaters T-shirt… gotta get me one of those! I thought.

  195. @Stealth
    @Anon

    We're all brought up to trust the press/evening news, but now, anytime I hear a story that supports the white-people-bad narrative, I ask myself things like, "did this really happen," and "what are they not telling us?"

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘We’re all brought up to trust the press/evening news, but now, anytime I hear a story that supports the white-people-bad narrative, I ask myself things like, “did this really happen,” and “what are they not telling us?”’

    They don’t have to actually lie (although they do that as well).

    Selective story hour will suffice. That’s usually what we get.

  196. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    You don't seem to understand.

    Suffragettes were in no wise the same as feminists. Giving women the right to vote might arguably have had long-term unintended corrosive effects on the polity, but suffragettes for all their supposed shrewishness still knew they were women, and they knew what women are and want and are supposed to do. They may have been deluded about what the vote would do to femininity (and this was discussed at length by their opponents) but since it was a first-time experiment, there was no way to know or prove anything.

    Feminists on the other hand told women to want to be imitation men. There would no longer really be women as such, just Men Type A and mini-Men Type B. Women were told to swap the home for an office cubicle, then to neglect their children, then to delay having children, then to not have children at all, then to adopt the foreign replacement children of aliens, then to give the whole thing up for white wine and cats, and just let the foreign invaders do all the woman stuff for them.

    This of course has had devastating (and entirely predictable) effects on White fertility and White family formation, resulting in the catastrophic White death spiral we see today.

    And yes, Jews were overwhelmingly the leaders on all fronts of this genocidal movement.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    And yes, Jews were overwhelmingly the leaders on all fronts of this genocidal movement.

    Betty Friedan just copied Simone de Beauvoir, who probably sold more in English translation than in her native land. Jews aren’t a particularly innovative race.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    That is a little like saying Eldridge Cleaver was only copying Harriet Beecher Stowe.

    If that's all you've got, then you basically agree, but will only say so sideways. On to jollier matters, like eating bugs!

  197. @Alden
    @Anonymous

    Here’s my take on it ;from an experienced mother.

    The girl herself with or without a black girl friend snipped at her hair for whatever reason. When grandma noticed it, grandma reacted in the traditional black mamma grandma way. As they always do, black grandma reacted with shrieking slapping and shaming. So the girl made the story up.

    Probably the girl wanted shorter braids or a different hairstyle. She’d asked mamma or grandma and been shrieked at. So she tried it herself.

    The word nappy is a sure give away. And how did this get into national news? Probably because Mrs Pence teaches there. Evil evil bad White southern baptists and evangelicals.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s international news. The article I linked to was on the BBC website. I’m sure this is the kind of hard-hitting journalism John Reith had in mind when he founded the Beeb.

  198. @ChrisZ
    @Anon

    I'm betting hoax. But maybe a pathetic one, as opposed to Smollet-like crime of self-promotion.

    I read the story on MSN, and it's the typical premature, credulous account to which we've become accustomed. But it also features a TV news segment in which the child is interviewed:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boys-accused-of-pinning-down-black-girl-and-cutting-dreadlocks/ar-AAHUF8l?ocid=spartanntp

    To me, the girl is sympathetic when she says she feels she doesn't deserve to be in a Christian school. But I suspect the reporter didn't understand what the girl meant, and only ran the clip for its emotional impact. My supposition is that the girl is genuinely unhappy in this private school environment (for reasons anyone here could guess). Apparently she lives with her grandmother--there's no mention of parents--so that's another potential source of unhappiness in her life. Self-mutilation of one sort or another seems to be a common way that young girls express unhappiness; cutting one's hair is a fairly benign variety.

    So a young girl cuts her hair in a moment of deep negative emotion. Perhaps she regrets it, but her grandmother notices, and the embarassed kid makes up a dramatic story where she's the victim. The grandmother lodges a complaint; maybe there really are some kids who tease the girl; it could all have been dealt with in a sensitive way.

    But that's when the credulous press gets into the act, hungry to exploit any whiff of racism and promote it to national prominence. Now everyone involved is backed into a corner, with no graceful way to back out, "revise" the story, apologize and quietly get on with life.

    I don't doubt there may be some chicanery on the grandmother's part, and the girl is obviously wrong to have started the hoax to begin with (if that's indeed the case). And if she's accused innocent boys as her assailants (indeed even if she vaguely fingered a gang of "white boys") she's done a terrible thing that deserves consequences. But what she doesn't deserve, as a 12-year-old kid, is to be exploited as the latest face of the national "cause celebre" of our psychotic elites.

    Replies: @Alden, @Aft

    “They called me an ‘attention-seeker’”

    Right…. They used the term “nappy” and called her an “attention-seeker” (said no white person, and no bully, ever, respectively)

    She wants to quit the school, she feels a little bit guilty about how she’s going about it, and it probably has something to do with her odd looks and sexuality (and tension with her pastor parents…)

  199. @Chrisnonymous
    @glib

    I eat liver and would eat lard were it easily available to me, so I'll bite.

    Although not particularly common, raw meat and fish were occasionally consumed in the West before the introduction of sushi (carpaccio, steak tartare, ceviche...). Likewise, seaweed used to be eaten in some places in the British Isles. In fact, in Philadelphia-style steak, we can see that at least some people preferred raw or extremely rare levels of cooking. So, the "ick" factor of raw fish was more habituation than anything, owing to the fish supply chains in the West, which didn't deliver fresh fish to many places outside coastal cities, and the fish dishes of the cultures, which often prepared fish whole or in fillets (nobody eats raw fillet, even in Japan).

    Insects, I believe, tap into more inborn disgust reactions related to infestation and disease avoidance--feces, worms, maggots, flies, cockroaches and many other things related to death or rot trigger feelings that are rooted not in habit but in biology. I think this is why we have escargot, but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.

    I will grant that some other forms of insect may not trigger these reactions. I have never eaten a cricket, but I'm not turned off by them and would definitely in the right circumstance. I think insects that feed on rot are often flat and wide or wriggly due to the requirements of their lifestyles, but insects like crickets with more varied 3D shapes are potentially more appetizing. However, as Intelligent Dasein points out, something like termites is probably more efficient.

    Howevee, as many other commenters have pointed out, the only reason to choose crickets over cows is the environmental and economic pressure of immigration. (Here I discount vegan arguments as beneath discussion.). But even so, the contribution of the beef/dairy industry to greenhouse gases is miniscule compared to something like transportation, but where are the people saying we need to curtail trade or travel in order to keep increasing our population??

    Replies: @glib, @glib, @Reg Cæsar

    I fully concur with many here that insects are being pushed for sinister reasons. Just like global warming and mass immigration. I also concur that “cows create global warming” is not only an hoax, it is the opposite of truth. The effect of properly pastured animals is to create soil (that is, store carbon). Many videos by Allan Savory on youtube, but here is an american farmer on bio-mimicry and how ruminants are indispensable to the bacterial cycle that drives fertility

    italian bug eaterMk&t=2359s

    (discussion on ruminants starts at around 22:00 but the whole video is worth watching). This guy does very well financially by using cows, and he even stores carbon for us.

    This said, two points

    1) the (white) country of carpaccio also eats bugs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu

    and those bugs are live and unpurged (just like we did in the old days. Unknown to most posters here, humans behaved like regular carnivores and regularly ate the full entrails of their kill). And, most shockingly, the italian bug eaters in Barbagia have the highest longevity in the world (the men. The women are second). you would have to buy the book to find out. Conclusion: bug eating is a fairly universal feature of mankind.

    https://www.bluezones.com/books/

    2) I recognize the potential for vast human health improvement, for us to get rid of grains, which are a tremendous source of disease through insulin resistance, inflammation, leaky gut, and blood-brain barrier jumping by unsavory molecules. You can grow good fat and proteins from wood!

    I am a near carnivore, and would welcome the opportunity to have that many more options. I would limit myself to high fat insects, larvae and termites. Alas, I only got to try them when traveling. But, honestly, those who despise bugs because they like their oatmeal cookie, I look down on them.

  200. Anon[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    My mom mentioned to me the other day about how small chicken parts were when she was a young woman. A breast was that size of her tiny palm.
     
    But they tasted better.

    Mark Schatzker examined cookbooks from the early 20th century and found that chicken recipes rarely called for more than salt and pepper, even though great-grandma had a full rack of spices to employ. They simply weren't needed. The fast was in the bird itself.

    Now, after a century of breeding for size and disease resistance, the flavor is gone. So here come the dressings and all the calories with them.

    I wish he got around to doing a video about chicken, but his one on chocolate (in which he looks like Butt-Head's more intelligent twin) makes the same point:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzEn_tduKOY


    Don't miss his other ones on Irish stew and vegetable murder.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Redneck farmer, @Romanian, @Anon

    I think salt and pepper is all you need today, especially salt, rubbed on the raw chicken a day before cooking it. If you are frying and you want spicy, cayenne pepper can go in the flour with salt and pepper.

    The author of the old Big Secrets book series many years ago got a zip lock full of Kentucky Fried Chicken pre-seasoned flour mix from an insider (i.e, a kid working a part time job), and had a lab test it. Verdict: The 11 herbs and spices are salt, pepper, … and that’s it. If you do any batter frying you know that you have to put a ton of powdered spices in the flour to even taste it. So the lab couldn’t have missed ingredients 3 and above if they were in there.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    There probably are 11 herbs and spices but only salt, pepper and MSG probably make any difference. The rest are trace amounts probably put in by the Colonel to make restaurant owners think they got something for their money.

    The list has been published in a couple of places. It isn't really secret. No one duplicates KFC because it really isn't that good. Most supermarkets with ready to go food counters and cafeteria areas make better fried chicken than KFC, or other popular chains. Even "Go Chicken Go" is a lot better than KFC.

    https://gochickengo.com/

    , @Alden
    @Anon

    I think I still have that Big Secrets book. I think, vaguely remember, KFC secret herbs and spices had MSG as well as plain old salt and pepper. Lots of sage is the secret for chicken and pork.

    Replies: @Anon

  201. @Chrisnonymous
    @glib

    I eat liver and would eat lard were it easily available to me, so I'll bite.

    Although not particularly common, raw meat and fish were occasionally consumed in the West before the introduction of sushi (carpaccio, steak tartare, ceviche...). Likewise, seaweed used to be eaten in some places in the British Isles. In fact, in Philadelphia-style steak, we can see that at least some people preferred raw or extremely rare levels of cooking. So, the "ick" factor of raw fish was more habituation than anything, owing to the fish supply chains in the West, which didn't deliver fresh fish to many places outside coastal cities, and the fish dishes of the cultures, which often prepared fish whole or in fillets (nobody eats raw fillet, even in Japan).

    Insects, I believe, tap into more inborn disgust reactions related to infestation and disease avoidance--feces, worms, maggots, flies, cockroaches and many other things related to death or rot trigger feelings that are rooted not in habit but in biology. I think this is why we have escargot, but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.

    I will grant that some other forms of insect may not trigger these reactions. I have never eaten a cricket, but I'm not turned off by them and would definitely in the right circumstance. I think insects that feed on rot are often flat and wide or wriggly due to the requirements of their lifestyles, but insects like crickets with more varied 3D shapes are potentially more appetizing. However, as Intelligent Dasein points out, something like termites is probably more efficient.

    Howevee, as many other commenters have pointed out, the only reason to choose crickets over cows is the environmental and economic pressure of immigration. (Here I discount vegan arguments as beneath discussion.). But even so, the contribution of the beef/dairy industry to greenhouse gases is miniscule compared to something like transportation, but where are the people saying we need to curtail trade or travel in order to keep increasing our population??

    Replies: @glib, @glib, @Reg Cæsar

    Oh, another thing. I have a network of grass-fed farmers since 2006. I treat them well (easy to do, they are salt of the earth types), pay immediately, and give them simple orders (say, a whole steer). They too treat me well, and I often get freebies. Bones for bone broth, including marrow bones, offal (beef, heart, tongue), bovine backfat for tallow, and although I never got leaf fat from a pig, I did get skin fat for free. It is then a simple procedure to make and store tens of pounds of tallow and lard.

    All this noble food, free, no doubt due to other customers only wanting muscle meat. so give it a try if you are in a good area (I am in Michigan). But bug larvae are noble food as well.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @glib

    I currently live overseas in a large urban area. Betwwen the expanses of concrete betwwen me and the farms and the language barrier and the lack of familiarity with that type of thing, buying direct from farmers is too difficult. But I used to do that in the US and will again when I move home. One of my last purchases in the US was a half sheep, including the heart. Had a delicious slow-cooked mutton leg, bone in.
    Good memories.

    As to the bug issue, there are of course exceptions, as you and commenter Twinkie pointed out. However, I think my comments about avoidance of things associated with rot is generally true and based in biology, not culture.

    If we start eating bugs, they will be processed into powders and pre-packaged protein supplements, I'd wager.

    Replies: @glib

  202. @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    And yes, Jews were overwhelmingly the leaders on all fronts of this genocidal movement.
     
    Betty Friedan just copied Simone de Beauvoir, who probably sold more in English translation than in her native land. Jews aren't a particularly innovative race.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    That is a little like saying Eldridge Cleaver was only copying Harriet Beecher Stowe.

    If that’s all you’ve got, then you basically agree, but will only say so sideways. On to jollier matters, like eating bugs!

  203. If we wouldn’t take up the metric system just because they say so, what makes them think eating bugs will be any different?

    • LOL: Thea
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @The Plutonium Kid

    Give it up. The metric system is objectively superior.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  204. Anon[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    The irony is that one of the first guys to promote eating insects was Arthur De Vany, who is the godfather of the "paleo" diet and lifestyle of eating mostly meat and protein and lifting weights. De Vany claims eating insects is "paleo" and that we have some sort of enzyme specially designed to digest insects.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @guest, @Anon

    Anybody who eats Paleo needs to be warned about the fundamental Paleo problem.

    Gout.

    But hey, go ahead and enjoy your mature years with kidney damage and severe joint pain if you want to eat like that.

    The reason humans rarely eat insects has to do with the fundamental problem of calories in and calories out. If you expend more calories trying to catch it than you gain in eating it, then it makes no sense to turn it into a food source.

    The one main exception in the past has been locusts. See the Biblical locusts and honey, for example. If the insect is large (meaning it delivers a decent amount of protein per critter), and it arrives in a compact mass (in the way locusts do) which makes it easier to catch it with something like nets, then it tends to be eaten by people.

    But locusts and honey will really give you gout. Sugar’s a culprit in making your uric acid rise, especially fructose.

  205. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think salt and pepper is all you need today, especially salt, rubbed on the raw chicken a day before cooking it. If you are frying and you want spicy, cayenne pepper can go in the flour with salt and pepper.

    The author of the old Big Secrets book series many years ago got a zip lock full of Kentucky Fried Chicken pre-seasoned flour mix from an insider (i.e, a kid working a part time job), and had a lab test it. Verdict: The 11 herbs and spices are salt, pepper, ... and that's it. If you do any batter frying you know that you have to put a ton of powdered spices in the flour to even taste it. So the lab couldn't have missed ingredients 3 and above if they were in there.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

    There probably are 11 herbs and spices but only salt, pepper and MSG probably make any difference. The rest are trace amounts probably put in by the Colonel to make restaurant owners think they got something for their money.

    The list has been published in a couple of places. It isn’t really secret. No one duplicates KFC because it really isn’t that good. Most supermarkets with ready to go food counters and cafeteria areas make better fried chicken than KFC, or other popular chains. Even “Go Chicken Go” is a lot better than KFC.

    https://gochickengo.com/

  206. My peers and I ate chocolate covered ants and grasshoppers when we were in junior high circa 1960. It made sense. We were 12 year old boys. I suppose that when the elites gave reduced the masses to starvation in a few decades, crickets might start looking appetizing. But only when the alternative is imminent death.

  207. Next up:

    “Most Americans believe food only comes from living organisms, consequently they have little idea how nutritious dirt is, nor what a delight for the taste buds it can be.”

  208. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jon Baptist


    Jews, of course, that implemented feminism
     
    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist. When Seneca Falls was invaded by harridans, Jewesses were still in the shtetls.

    You and Colin should find something to agree on-- you both likely believe those of us wrong who think "the fewer Mohammedans, the better".

    The "unprecedented densities" isn't even debatable, as this graphic shows. The West, and much of the East, has already solved its growth problem-- if it weren't for immigration.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @ATBOTL, @Jon Baptist, @S. Anonyia

    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist

    The word “suffragist” was not in my post. I was referring to crazy radical feminism.
    “Naomi Wolf pointed out in the Fall 2005 issue of Heeb, feminism and Judaism go together like Courtney Love and hitting people with microphones” –
    https://forward.com/culture/2305/why-are-there-so-many-jewish-feminists/
    https://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2013/02/20/the-feminist-movement-what-happened-and-why/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jon Baptist


    The word “suffragist” was not in my post.
     
    Suffragist, feminist... what's the damn difference?

    I'm not denying Jewish involvement in feminism, only saying that they came late to the party.
  209. @glib
    @Chrisnonymous

    Oh, another thing. I have a network of grass-fed farmers since 2006. I treat them well (easy to do, they are salt of the earth types), pay immediately, and give them simple orders (say, a whole steer). They too treat me well, and I often get freebies. Bones for bone broth, including marrow bones, offal (beef, heart, tongue), bovine backfat for tallow, and although I never got leaf fat from a pig, I did get skin fat for free. It is then a simple procedure to make and store tens of pounds of tallow and lard.

    All this noble food, free, no doubt due to other customers only wanting muscle meat. so give it a try if you are in a good area (I am in Michigan). But bug larvae are noble food as well.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    I currently live overseas in a large urban area. Betwwen the expanses of concrete betwwen me and the farms and the language barrier and the lack of familiarity with that type of thing, buying direct from farmers is too difficult. But I used to do that in the US and will again when I move home. One of my last purchases in the US was a half sheep, including the heart. Had a delicious slow-cooked mutton leg, bone in.
    Good memories.

    As to the bug issue, there are of course exceptions, as you and commenter Twinkie pointed out. However, I think my comments about avoidance of things associated with rot is generally true and based in biology, not culture.

    If we start eating bugs, they will be processed into powders and pre-packaged protein supplements, I’d wager.

    • Replies: @glib
    @Chrisnonymous

    I agree about that too. Big food will find ways to process bugs into something unhealthy. Glad you like heart, I eat it raw at least once a week.

  210. One the bright side, this would solve our obesity problem.

  211. @Chrisnonymous
    @glib

    I currently live overseas in a large urban area. Betwwen the expanses of concrete betwwen me and the farms and the language barrier and the lack of familiarity with that type of thing, buying direct from farmers is too difficult. But I used to do that in the US and will again when I move home. One of my last purchases in the US was a half sheep, including the heart. Had a delicious slow-cooked mutton leg, bone in.
    Good memories.

    As to the bug issue, there are of course exceptions, as you and commenter Twinkie pointed out. However, I think my comments about avoidance of things associated with rot is generally true and based in biology, not culture.

    If we start eating bugs, they will be processed into powders and pre-packaged protein supplements, I'd wager.

    Replies: @glib

    I agree about that too. Big food will find ways to process bugs into something unhealthy. Glad you like heart, I eat it raw at least once a week.

  212. @Jon Baptist
    @Reg Cæsar


    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist
     
    The word "suffragist" was not in my post. I was referring to crazy radical feminism.
    "Naomi Wolf pointed out in the Fall 2005 issue of Heeb, feminism and Judaism go together like Courtney Love and hitting people with microphones" -
    https://forward.com/culture/2305/why-are-there-so-many-jewish-feminists/
    https://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2013/02/20/the-feminist-movement-what-happened-and-why/

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The word “suffragist” was not in my post.

    Suffragist, feminist… what’s the damn difference?

    I’m not denying Jewish involvement in feminism, only saying that they came late to the party.

  213. @glib
    I am surprised at all the negativity about eating insects here. I am old enough to remember when even in the Bay Area most people considered eating raw fish disgusting. How did that turn out?

    Most people have chitinase (I get that if you are of pure Anglo stock you may not have it). If not, mushrooms would give you leaky gut. That takes care of the crunchy ones.

    To the contrary of what people posted here, larvae at least are more digestible than regular meat. They taste good. And larvae have a nearly ideal fat/protein ratio, as well as larger amounts of micro-nutrients than meat (zinc, copper, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins B for starters). Would you rather eat a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar? Because that is what you ate this morning for breakfast. Even if it is not mutant and GMO, it is hell on your gut and your insulin.

    Really, most people here have only a veneer of a scientific approach to things. I am enthusiastic that goof fat (the really limiting macro-nutrient in our food supply) can be obtained directly from wood, in amounts per acre far exceeding the amounts obtained through grazing. But insects are not a complete animal replacement. They lack the essential fatty acids of fatty fish, the retinol of liver and eyes, and the vit. D of pastured lard. Although I wonder how many of you eat liver and lard.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Alden, @TTSSYF, @Steve in Greensboro, @DogAnecdote

    I love liver. Mostly because it’s meat and very low calorie. I like chicken and beef liver equally.

  214. @Anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think salt and pepper is all you need today, especially salt, rubbed on the raw chicken a day before cooking it. If you are frying and you want spicy, cayenne pepper can go in the flour with salt and pepper.

    The author of the old Big Secrets book series many years ago got a zip lock full of Kentucky Fried Chicken pre-seasoned flour mix from an insider (i.e, a kid working a part time job), and had a lab test it. Verdict: The 11 herbs and spices are salt, pepper, ... and that's it. If you do any batter frying you know that you have to put a ton of powdered spices in the flour to even taste it. So the lab couldn't have missed ingredients 3 and above if they were in there.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Alden

    I think I still have that Big Secrets book. I think, vaguely remember, KFC secret herbs and spices had MSG as well as plain old salt and pepper. Lots of sage is the secret for chicken and pork.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Alden

    That's right. I had forgotten about about the MSG.

    If there is anything else in the chicken flour, it must be in homeopathic quantities.

  215. anon[883] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    By framing anti bug eating as a colonialist evil, SJWs and POC will of course lead the way in eating bug gourmet cuisine. And I'm sure they'll do it by actually eating raw grubs rather than vegan hamburgers with 3 percent processed grasshopper powder.

    A common Japanese travel variety show stunt involves sending a prim, young female Japanese singer or actress to some jungleland country and have the natives offer her raw grubs to eat. I think the producers put the natives up to this. This recently happened in a home stay with Australian aborigines program. I'm pretty sure they don't eat bugs, but granny still knew where to find them in old logs, and sure enough the actress was soon choking them down. By the way, purebred aborigine women are butt ugly beyond imagination. The kids are kind of cute in a weird way, and then things quickly go south. Whenever you see an attractive "aborigine" woman, know that she is 1/32 aborigine, 31/32 descendant of English beauty queens.

    Replies: @anon

    Aboriginal women tend to be mouthy and violent.
    That usually has consequences.
    Here’s my [second hand] Abo story.
    A group of ringers [cattle station workers on horseback] sat down for smoko.
    The Abo caught a green frog, put it between 2 slices of bread, and ate it.

    This happened on a station south of Maryborough, Queensland, in the Fifties.

  216. @Asdf
    This is all starting to remind me of the 1970s, somehow.

    Replies: @Mr Ecks

    The 70’s were never as bad as today’s ^&*%show has become.

  217. @Whiskey
    It was Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy who upon learning to her horror that the cars outside her private Chapel belonged to her servants cried "What's the point of being rich if ordinary people can have nice things too."

    Ot Bill Dr Blasio surrendered. NYC schools will not be desegregated. Too bad. Our betters deserve diversity good and hard.

    Replies: @Studley

    It was Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy who upon learning to her horror that the cars outside her private Chapel belonged to her servants cried “What’s the point of being rich if ordinary people can have nice things too.”

    Or did she? I’m no Kennedy defender but I thought the original story was that Rose, being devoutly Catholic, and under old Joe’s influence, with the care of all these children, didn’t get out much (as the saying goes). By the 1960’s, amazed to know that the staff at Hyannisport were driving to their day jobs. “There is no function or party tonight, what are all these cars parked here for?”

  218. @bossel
    Funny, how many idiots are out there who think eating insects (or - gasp! - worms) is somehow worse than eating shrimps, crabs, snails or oysters.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @TTSSYF, @S. Anonyia

    So people are “idiots” because they like shrimp cocktail but are not so thrilled at the idea of substituting chilled worms? I take it you’re trying out all of the latest recipes for entrees made with insects or worms and inviting family and friends over so they can get over being “idiots” and their (no-doubt) socially-constructed aversion to dragonfly chips and humus with a side of pureed worm juice, followed by spaghetti with sautéed worms and fresh marinara?

  219. @glib
    I am surprised at all the negativity about eating insects here. I am old enough to remember when even in the Bay Area most people considered eating raw fish disgusting. How did that turn out?

    Most people have chitinase (I get that if you are of pure Anglo stock you may not have it). If not, mushrooms would give you leaky gut. That takes care of the crunchy ones.

    To the contrary of what people posted here, larvae at least are more digestible than regular meat. They taste good. And larvae have a nearly ideal fat/protein ratio, as well as larger amounts of micro-nutrients than meat (zinc, copper, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins B for starters). Would you rather eat a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar? Because that is what you ate this morning for breakfast. Even if it is not mutant and GMO, it is hell on your gut and your insulin.

    Really, most people here have only a veneer of a scientific approach to things. I am enthusiastic that goof fat (the really limiting macro-nutrient in our food supply) can be obtained directly from wood, in amounts per acre far exceeding the amounts obtained through grazing. But insects are not a complete animal replacement. They lack the essential fatty acids of fatty fish, the retinol of liver and eyes, and the vit. D of pastured lard. Although I wonder how many of you eat liver and lard.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Alden, @TTSSYF, @Steve in Greensboro, @DogAnecdote

    I don’t eat organ meat because I don’t like it, and I don’t eat liver because it is the body’s garbage can. I also don’t chow down on lard, except to bake with it occasionally.

    You, Chrisnonymous, Anon, and others who like liver and lead and are open to worm smoothies can lead the charge. I’ll continue to eat a diet heavy in fresh vegetables, avocados, soy burgers, fish, and chicken, with the occasional dinner of pork or beef. I suppose that makes me a Bad White, but oh well.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @TTSSYF

    Well, I don't intend to start eating insects unless there is no other source of protein. I can believe that bugs might be healthier, actually, than tofu, but I think I would choose tofu and accept the downsides.

    However, you write as though eating organ meats is new-fangled, but it isn't. Liver, in particular, was a staple in the past. It is not we who are venturing into new territory, but you. Your diet of "healthy meats" and "plant-based foods" is part of humanity's 20th-century social experimentation. In the realm of economics, we had experiments with central planning that failed in the disaster of the USSR. In health, we had an experiment with "low-fat, high-carb, whole grains, etc". People like glib and I contend that this experiment has failed in the obesity and health epidemics of our current society.

    Going back to eating like our grandparents did or eating like the French or whatever is the "paleocon" solution, while ketogenic diets are the "Austrian" response of the dietary realm, in the sense that they are highly theoretical and severe. My guess is that we need intermittent doses of Austrian school on the road back to paleocon life.

    Anyway, your diet doesn't make you one of the BadWhites, it makes you one of the GoodWhites, in step with government, media, and elite opinionating. Maybe you'll turn out just fine, but I prefer my "cornucopia of deplorables", including liver and lard, any day.

  220. @Lagertha
    make the staff eat and sample the cockroaches in their apt. I mean.....don't write an article that Middle Class people will never see....they have not read or bought your NYT in 2 years. Sometimes it is time to fuck-off.

    https://youtu.be/BXgvrx5wpE8

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lagertha

    AGREED, Lagertha!

    Indeed, the clock in the NY Times office has just gone half past a monkey’s ass and it seconds away from “time to fuck off”.

    I have no idea what this Gordon Lightfoot epic has to do with the subject, but thanks. That is one of my favorites. Prost!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Half past the monkey's ass and quarter to his balls" was one of those crazy old man rants my old man would let out when drunk. Must have been a thing in the 40s or early 50s.

    , @Lagertha
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Love yah, darlin.

  221. they came late to the party

    No. No they did not. They were there from the beginning constructing radical feminism. Now their spawn like JoAnna (Every Single Time) Klein of the NYT is promoting the eating of bugs.
    “Sanger — the future founder of Planned Parenthood — and her sister, Ethel Byrne, met a young Jewish immigrant named Fania Mindell. On October 16, 1919, the trio opened the country’s first birth control clinic” –
    https://forward.com/culture/359288/meet-the-jewish-woman-who-helped-lay-the-groundwork-for-planned-parenthood/

    …and then there is Goldman highlighted by the Jewish Press under https://jwa.org/womenofvalor/goldman

    “Emma Goldman is known as a rebel, an anarchist, an ardent proponent of birth control and free speech, a feminist.”
    https://www.thoughtco.com/emma-goldman-3529234

    Emma Goldman: McKinley Assassination Conspirator? –
    https://www.loc.gov/rr/news/topics/goldman.html

  222. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jon Baptist


    Jews, of course, that implemented feminism
     
    I challenge you to name a single Jewish suffragist. When Seneca Falls was invaded by harridans, Jewesses were still in the shtetls.

    You and Colin should find something to agree on-- you both likely believe those of us wrong who think "the fewer Mohammedans, the better".

    The "unprecedented densities" isn't even debatable, as this graphic shows. The West, and much of the East, has already solved its growth problem-- if it weren't for immigration.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @ATBOTL, @Jon Baptist, @S. Anonyia

    I think he means Jewish women started second wave feminism, primarily because they were sick of the poor treatment their religion/culture subjected women to by their husbands, especially relative to the WASPs whom Jews considered their rivals for money/influence at the time. There was a lot of psychology embedded in second wave feminism. It changed the divorce rate, whereas first wave feminism didn’t much.

    First wave feminism was about the vote. It didn’t really change social roles or family structure/planning for the majority of women or the family. Wealthy and middle class women were mostly housewives, poorer and working class women worked in factories, farms etc as they always had, and first wave feminism allowed talented women who weren’t that interested in family obligations to have more of a chance to formally enter fields like law, science, medicine etc. Though in most post-Renaissance European societies (maybe less so in America because it was a frontier) wealthy women already had considerable influence in the arts, music, fashion, writing, etc. As tastemakers and creators- there were probably more famous female painters in the 1700s in Europe than today!

    Third wave feminism was led by gen X punkettes who wanted to be feminists and get the perks of feminism while also going back to lipstick and pink and sexy clothing without feeling guilty.

    We are on the 4th wave now, intersectional feminism. It is primarily led by vocal high T “lesbians” aka transvestites (they are not surgically altered for the most part, so it’s hard to call them transgendered) as well as various women of color obsessed with post-colonial theory, and a few nicety-nice shy white women who had a bad time in high school and want to stop other women from wearing sexy clothing. This group acts as the doormat/foundation to prop up their tranny overlords.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @S. Anonyia


    there were probably more famous female painters in the 1700s in Europe than today!
     
    That's damning with faint praise.
  223. @The Plutonium Kid
    If we wouldn't take up the metric system just because they say so, what makes them think eating bugs will be any different?

    Replies: @El Dato

    Give it up. The metric system is objectively superior.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    The metric system is objectively superior.
     
    Is base 10?

    Four inches is a third of a foot and a ninth of a yard. Fourpence was a third of a shilling and a sixtieth of a pound.

    What's a third of a meter, or a dollar?

    Or a seventh? Three bob were a seventh of a guinea.


    Five and ten are overrated.

  224. @Chrisnonymous
    @Twinkie

    Were they flavored in Korea when you ate them? (They are flavored in Japan.)

    I saw Africans eating huge, huge larvae of something once on TV, but they preferred to eat in them in a kind of thick stew made from the peanut butter they were given by aide workers. I think usually insects eaten as food are highly spiced or sweetened and have the bejesus cooked out of them first.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I had them in both Japan and South Korea, and both were flavored.

  225. @bossel
    Funny, how many idiots are out there who think eating insects (or - gasp! - worms) is somehow worse than eating shrimps, crabs, snails or oysters.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @TTSSYF, @S. Anonyia

    Clearly not a coastal dweller are you? Huge difference.

  226. @glib
    I am surprised at all the negativity about eating insects here. I am old enough to remember when even in the Bay Area most people considered eating raw fish disgusting. How did that turn out?

    Most people have chitinase (I get that if you are of pure Anglo stock you may not have it). If not, mushrooms would give you leaky gut. That takes care of the crunchy ones.

    To the contrary of what people posted here, larvae at least are more digestible than regular meat. They taste good. And larvae have a nearly ideal fat/protein ratio, as well as larger amounts of micro-nutrients than meat (zinc, copper, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins B for starters). Would you rather eat a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar? Because that is what you ate this morning for breakfast. Even if it is not mutant and GMO, it is hell on your gut and your insulin.

    Really, most people here have only a veneer of a scientific approach to things. I am enthusiastic that goof fat (the really limiting macro-nutrient in our food supply) can be obtained directly from wood, in amounts per acre far exceeding the amounts obtained through grazing. But insects are not a complete animal replacement. They lack the essential fatty acids of fatty fish, the retinol of liver and eyes, and the vit. D of pastured lard. Although I wonder how many of you eat liver and lard.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Alden, @TTSSYF, @Steve in Greensboro, @DogAnecdote

    Would I rather eat a bowl of mealworms for breakfast or “a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar?”

    Is this a trick question?

    • Replies: @glib
    @Steve in Greensboro

    not really. I do think wheat in particular and grains in general are serf food. Sugar is even worse.

  227. @TTSSYF
    @glib

    I don't eat organ meat because I don't like it, and I don't eat liver because it is the body's garbage can. I also don't chow down on lard, except to bake with it occasionally.

    You, Chrisnonymous, Anon, and others who like liver and lead and are open to worm smoothies can lead the charge. I'll continue to eat a diet heavy in fresh vegetables, avocados, soy burgers, fish, and chicken, with the occasional dinner of pork or beef. I suppose that makes me a Bad White, but oh well.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Well, I don’t intend to start eating insects unless there is no other source of protein. I can believe that bugs might be healthier, actually, than tofu, but I think I would choose tofu and accept the downsides.

    However, you write as though eating organ meats is new-fangled, but it isn’t. Liver, in particular, was a staple in the past. It is not we who are venturing into new territory, but you. Your diet of “healthy meats” and “plant-based foods” is part of humanity’s 20th-century social experimentation. In the realm of economics, we had experiments with central planning that failed in the disaster of the USSR. In health, we had an experiment with “low-fat, high-carb, whole grains, etc”. People like glib and I contend that this experiment has failed in the obesity and health epidemics of our current society.

    Going back to eating like our grandparents did or eating like the French or whatever is the “paleocon” solution, while ketogenic diets are the “Austrian” response of the dietary realm, in the sense that they are highly theoretical and severe. My guess is that we need intermittent doses of Austrian school on the road back to paleocon life.

    Anyway, your diet doesn’t make you one of the BadWhites, it makes you one of the GoodWhites, in step with government, media, and elite opinionating. Maybe you’ll turn out just fine, but I prefer my “cornucopia of deplorables”, including liver and lard, any day.

  228. @S. Anonyia
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think he means Jewish women started second wave feminism, primarily because they were sick of the poor treatment their religion/culture subjected women to by their husbands, especially relative to the WASPs whom Jews considered their rivals for money/influence at the time. There was a lot of psychology embedded in second wave feminism. It changed the divorce rate, whereas first wave feminism didn’t much.

    First wave feminism was about the vote. It didn’t really change social roles or family structure/planning for the majority of women or the family. Wealthy and middle class women were mostly housewives, poorer and working class women worked in factories, farms etc as they always had, and first wave feminism allowed talented women who weren’t that interested in family obligations to have more of a chance to formally enter fields like law, science, medicine etc. Though in most post-Renaissance European societies (maybe less so in America because it was a frontier) wealthy women already had considerable influence in the arts, music, fashion, writing, etc. As tastemakers and creators- there were probably more famous female painters in the 1700s in Europe than today!

    Third wave feminism was led by gen X punkettes who wanted to be feminists and get the perks of feminism while also going back to lipstick and pink and sexy clothing without feeling guilty.

    We are on the 4th wave now, intersectional feminism. It is primarily led by vocal high T “lesbians” aka transvestites (they are not surgically altered for the most part, so it’s hard to call them transgendered) as well as various women of color obsessed with post-colonial theory, and a few nicety-nice shy white women who had a bad time in high school and want to stop other women from wearing sexy clothing. This group acts as the doormat/foundation to prop up their tranny overlords.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    there were probably more famous female painters in the 1700s in Europe than today!

    That’s damning with faint praise.

  229. @El Dato
    @The Plutonium Kid

    Give it up. The metric system is objectively superior.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The metric system is objectively superior.

    Is base 10?

    Four inches is a third of a foot and a ninth of a yard. Fourpence was a third of a shilling and a sixtieth of a pound.

    What’s a third of a meter, or a dollar?

    Or a seventh? Three bob were a seventh of a guinea.

    Five and ten are overrated.

  230. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Lagertha

    AGREED, Lagertha!

    Indeed, the clock in the NY Times office has just gone half past a monkey's ass and it seconds away from "time to fuck off".

    I have no idea what this Gordon Lightfoot epic has to do with the subject, but thanks. That is one of my favorites. Prost!

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Lagertha

    “Half past the monkey’s ass and quarter to his balls” was one of those crazy old man rants my old man would let out when drunk. Must have been a thing in the 40s or early 50s.

  231. @Chrisnonymous
    @glib

    I eat liver and would eat lard were it easily available to me, so I'll bite.

    Although not particularly common, raw meat and fish were occasionally consumed in the West before the introduction of sushi (carpaccio, steak tartare, ceviche...). Likewise, seaweed used to be eaten in some places in the British Isles. In fact, in Philadelphia-style steak, we can see that at least some people preferred raw or extremely rare levels of cooking. So, the "ick" factor of raw fish was more habituation than anything, owing to the fish supply chains in the West, which didn't deliver fresh fish to many places outside coastal cities, and the fish dishes of the cultures, which often prepared fish whole or in fillets (nobody eats raw fillet, even in Japan).

    Insects, I believe, tap into more inborn disgust reactions related to infestation and disease avoidance--feces, worms, maggots, flies, cockroaches and many other things related to death or rot trigger feelings that are rooted not in habit but in biology. I think this is why we have escargot, but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.

    I will grant that some other forms of insect may not trigger these reactions. I have never eaten a cricket, but I'm not turned off by them and would definitely in the right circumstance. I think insects that feed on rot are often flat and wide or wriggly due to the requirements of their lifestyles, but insects like crickets with more varied 3D shapes are potentially more appetizing. However, as Intelligent Dasein points out, something like termites is probably more efficient.

    Howevee, as many other commenters have pointed out, the only reason to choose crickets over cows is the environmental and economic pressure of immigration. (Here I discount vegan arguments as beneath discussion.). But even so, the contribution of the beef/dairy industry to greenhouse gases is miniscule compared to something like transportation, but where are the people saying we need to curtail trade or travel in order to keep increasing our population??

    Replies: @glib, @glib, @Reg Cæsar

    …but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.

    Do they serve their mascot in UCSC’s dining halls?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    I am always stumped by sportsball questions.

  232. I’ve begun to think that the so-called Rootless Cosmopolitans are trying to provoke an American Intifada. This was easy to do in Palestine. All they had to do is have their Ziofascist PM visit the Temple Mount to outrage honor-obsessed Arab males. Here they’ve been spitting on our culture, heritage, and economic hopes since 1965 and except for occasional outbreaks like the Militia Movement and the Alt-Right, Americans are totally oblivious.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Fidelios Automata


    I’ve begun to think that the so-called Rootless Cosmopolitans are trying to provoke an American Intifada.
     
    They have no idea what they are in for if they succeed. It will be far and away their biggest rout since 70 AD.
  233. @Aft
    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/world-population/

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/us-crop-yields-1866-2014-300x300.png

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zs3CELduimU/VC7QENbMv-I/AAAAAAAAFjs/qmJriJYrGsE/s280/Screen%2BShot%2B2014-10-03%2Bat%2B12.32.57%2BPM.png

    In case the bug-lovers haven't noticed, it's a lot easier to genetically engineer plants and animals than engineer humans into bug digestion. Crop yields will continue to climb and it's fairly straightforward to also engineer up the protein content of many grains. Those have another order of magnitude of room to grow, way easier than us devolving into bug-eaters.

    Replies: @Anon, @Redneck farmer, @Fidelios Automata

    But that wouldn’t sufficiently punish us for White Privilege, Patriarchy and CO2 emissions.

  234. @Anonymous
    I wouldn't want to eat insects, but larvae looks eatable.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMbKnyq8BSc

    Replies: @Buck Ransom

    This is reminding me of high school history class and the Diet of Worms.

  235. @Steve in Greensboro
    @glib

    Would I rather eat a bowl of mealworms for breakfast or "a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar?"

    Is this a trick question?

    Replies: @glib

    not really. I do think wheat in particular and grains in general are serf food. Sugar is even worse.

  236. @Fidelios Automata
    I've begun to think that the so-called Rootless Cosmopolitans are trying to provoke an American Intifada. This was easy to do in Palestine. All they had to do is have their Ziofascist PM visit the Temple Mount to outrage honor-obsessed Arab males. Here they've been spitting on our culture, heritage, and economic hopes since 1965 and except for occasional outbreaks like the Militia Movement and the Alt-Right, Americans are totally oblivious.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I’ve begun to think that the so-called Rootless Cosmopolitans are trying to provoke an American Intifada.

    They have no idea what they are in for if they succeed. It will be far and away their biggest rout since 70 AD.

  237. @Reg Cæsar
    @Chrisnonymous


    ...but, as far as I know, no dishes made from slugs, even though a slug and a de-shelled snail are essentially the same.
     
    Do they serve their mascot in UCSC's dining halls?




    https://timekeepingscore.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/top10_mascots_banana_alt.jpg?w=260

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    I am always stumped by sportsball questions.

  238. @glib
    I am surprised at all the negativity about eating insects here. I am old enough to remember when even in the Bay Area most people considered eating raw fish disgusting. How did that turn out?

    Most people have chitinase (I get that if you are of pure Anglo stock you may not have it). If not, mushrooms would give you leaky gut. That takes care of the crunchy ones.

    To the contrary of what people posted here, larvae at least are more digestible than regular meat. They taste good. And larvae have a nearly ideal fat/protein ratio, as well as larger amounts of micro-nutrients than meat (zinc, copper, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins B for starters). Would you rather eat a beautiful croissant made with (mutant) wheat and (GMO) sugar? Because that is what you ate this morning for breakfast. Even if it is not mutant and GMO, it is hell on your gut and your insulin.

    Really, most people here have only a veneer of a scientific approach to things. I am enthusiastic that goof fat (the really limiting macro-nutrient in our food supply) can be obtained directly from wood, in amounts per acre far exceeding the amounts obtained through grazing. But insects are not a complete animal replacement. They lack the essential fatty acids of fatty fish, the retinol of liver and eyes, and the vit. D of pastured lard. Although I wonder how many of you eat liver and lard.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Alden, @TTSSYF, @Steve in Greensboro, @DogAnecdote

    Thank you. I think you may have meant something other than “goof fat,” but you make a good point.

    People can get protein from just about anywhere, but the essential fatty acids of which our brains are in large part made are, banning heroic techno-effort, to be found only in animal sources.

    All that aside, one may follow the principle of the zookeeper. If you want the animals to do well, feed them a diet as closely resembling that of their wild conspeciates as possible.

    The diet of wild humans is known, and those with an investigative bent can discover it by looking at things such as the ph of human stomachs, strontium-isotope analysis of the teeth of wild human populations, behavior of wild humans, etc.

    If you rely on books, magazine articles and the like to do the investigation for you, however, you are doomed to be misled.

    I’d reveal the answer, but all the eat-your-vegetables types will pile on.

  239. @Alden
    @Anon

    I think I still have that Big Secrets book. I think, vaguely remember, KFC secret herbs and spices had MSG as well as plain old salt and pepper. Lots of sage is the secret for chicken and pork.

    Replies: @Anon

    That’s right. I had forgotten about about the MSG.

    If there is anything else in the chicken flour, it must be in homeopathic quantities.

  240. @Lagertha
    make the staff eat and sample the cockroaches in their apt. I mean.....don't write an article that Middle Class people will never see....they have not read or bought your NYT in 2 years. Sometimes it is time to fuck-off.

    https://youtu.be/BXgvrx5wpE8

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Lagertha

    Most people on the coasts, like (90% of the USA) have no idea who the Great Lake Coasts people were – those people do not equate with coasts. Let that burn, right now.

    It just snowed 3 feet in my son’s town.

  241. trust in you matters

  242. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Lagertha

    AGREED, Lagertha!

    Indeed, the clock in the NY Times office has just gone half past a monkey's ass and it seconds away from "time to fuck off".

    I have no idea what this Gordon Lightfoot epic has to do with the subject, but thanks. That is one of my favorites. Prost!

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Lagertha

    Love yah, darlin.

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