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From the New York Times:

Efforts to Rescue Migrants Caused Deadly, Unexpected Consequences
By STUART A. THOMPSON and ANJALI SINGHVI JUNE 14, 2017

Strategies to rescue migrants in the Mediterranean Sea and disrupt smuggling networks have had deadly, unexpected consequences, according to aid groups monitoring the crisis. …

Before 2014, rescues took place closer to Italy, with migrant boats traveling as far as Italian waters. By 2014, many rescues were occurring farther south in the Mediterranean.

By 2015, rescues reached even closer to the Libyan side of the Mediterranean Sea.

More recently, rescues were taking place closer to Libyan territorial waters.

Screenshot 2017-06-15 19.33.45

Rescuing migrants closer to the Libyan coast saved hundreds of people at sea. But critics said it introduced a deadly incentive for more migrants to risk the journey and for smugglers to launch more boats.

“Migrants and refugees – encouraged by the stories of those who had successfully made it in the past – attempt the dangerous crossing since they are aware of and rely on humanitarian assistance to reach the E.U.,” said a risk analysis by Frontex, the European Union border and coast guard agency.

Smugglers use flimsy boats and provide just enough fuel to reach the edge of Libyan waters. Drivers can remove the engine and head back to Libya on another boat, leaving the migrants adrift until help arrives.

It’s almost as if Europe could use a continent-wide political organization — it could be called, I don’t know, say, the European Union — and a continent-wide military alliance — maybe it could known as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization — to organize the defense of Europe from this invasion.

But, of course, in the real world, there are no such things as the EU and NATO. So, Europe is completely defenseless against the mighty Chadian invaders and their advanced technology:

 
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  1. Nice snark, but of course the Europeans don’t need NATO guided missile frigates to stop this, they could stop it by doing nothing. The only conclusion one can draw is that they actually want those people.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @bored identity
    @JerryC

    Of course they actually want those people.

    The European unelected apparatchiks had intentionaly set up Frontex to be used as Intercontinental Maritime Uber for Huddled Invading Masses.

    It would be like having Keith Ellison and Luis V. Gutierrez in direct charge of CBP & Border Patrol:




    (from McMuffinpedia)

    The European Border and Coast Guard Agency (EBCG), commonly called Frontex (from French: Frontières extérieures for "external borders") is an agency of the European Union headquartered in Warsaw.

    The agency initially struggled to recruit staff due to its location in Warsaw, which offered lower pay than some other cities, and the unclear agency mandate.

    According to its third amended Budget 2015, the agency had in that year 336 employees.

    Additionally it could make use of 78 employees which had been seconded from the member states.

    The Agency is able to launch joint operations, including the use of drones when necessary.

    The European Space Agency's earth observation system Copernicus provides the new Agency with real time satellite surveillance capabilities alongside the current Eurosur border surveillance system.

     

  2. I agree with Steve’s point here, but I think the dysphemism “invasion/invaders” is a bit overwrought—the migrants are a disorganized mass of unarmed civilians, not a Mongol horde or German army. I personally think “settlers/colonists” is a better fit: it captures the dangerous and transformational nature of mass migration without sounding LARPy/hysterical.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Deso Dogg

    The genocide of a race, the end of civilisation (sustained only by that race), and the ensuing ecological disaster and Malthusian death race are nothing to get hysterical about, after all....

    Replies: @Deso Dogg

    , @San Fernando Curt
    @Deso Dogg

    Right. It's mostly up to the second and third generations after footfall to launch the bloodbaths.

    , @TheJester
    @Deso Dogg

    The Germanic "invaders" in 4th and 5th Century Gaul and Italy were also the "settlers/colonists" you mention. They typically occupied land vacated by the demographic implosion of the Roman population. In some cases, the "invaders" made a point of paying for the land ... albeit the Romans had to take what was offered. However, history calls them "invaders" since they brought with them an alien social and political culture that replaced the Roman political and social order, similar to what is happening in Europe today.

    An antinatalist version of feminism was all the rage in 4th and 5th Century Rome as it is today in Europe and its colonial legacies. As the saying went, "Rome rules the world, but women rule Rome" ... and they weren't having babies.

    Replies: @anonymous, @neprof, @Deso Dogg

    , @guest
    @Deso Dogg

    "Home invader" is such a mean, inflammatory term, too. They don't even plan to stay more than a couple minutes, usually Let's call them home interior passersby.

    You'd probably call a Red Indian warning about the coming white invaders in 1492 a playacting doomsayer.

    "They're just settling here, geez."

    Replies: @Deso Dogg

  3. Efforts to Rescue Migrants Caused Deadly, Unexpected Consequences

    Every word they write is a lie, including and, the, and un-.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
  4. If you were a preacher, I would yell “Preach!”

    Nations with no borders are called “failed states”.

  5. Why not “rescue” Libyans right on the beach before they even board these dangerous vessels? Rescue them in the cities or out in the desert. Why not be their savior, steadfast and true.
    Why not come to their emotional rescue.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Trelane

    Can't you hear me knockin'?

    Pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name?

    You can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get just what you need.

    Start me up, I'm jumpin' Jack Fash.

    Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    , @MBlanc46
    @Trelane

    Don't give them ideas!

    Replies: @Travis

  6. the mighty Chadian invaders and their advanced technology:

    Hanging Chadians? Hanging on the gunwale, that is.

    I’m sorry, it’s cruel, but that picture called to mind this Todd Rundgren classic.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuRnTBDCrhk

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  7. Yeah this sort of thing is handled way better elsewhere.

  8. A good number of Europeans are profiting off this mass of migrants. There is no other explanation.

    • Replies: @San Fernando Curt
    @Yak-15

    A good number of cosmopolitan Europeans want to destroy real Europeans. There's another explanation for you. What do you think "never again" means anyway?

    Replies: @Yak-15

  9. Who could have predicted that by rewarding it, you’d get more of a given behaviour ?? I mean, who could have guessed?

    The word’s out in Affica now: all you have to do is get your toes wet and it’s free food, free housing, free medical care, and let’s not forget teh white wimmenz!

    But seriously, at this point you’d have to be insane if you didn’t leave your mud shack and ‘migrate’ northward. Have no fear though, we’ll be going back for the insane ones too.

  10. @Deso Dogg
    I agree with Steve's point here, but I think the dysphemism "invasion/invaders" is a bit overwrought---the migrants are a disorganized mass of unarmed civilians, not a Mongol horde or German army. I personally think "settlers/colonists" is a better fit: it captures the dangerous and transformational nature of mass migration without sounding LARPy/hysterical.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @San Fernando Curt, @TheJester, @guest

    The genocide of a race, the end of civilisation (sustained only by that race), and the ensuing ecological disaster and Malthusian death race are nothing to get hysterical about, after all….

    • Replies: @Deso Dogg
    @Autochthon

    >genocide
    >end of civilization
    >ecological disaster


    Thank you for demonstrating the hysteria I mentioned. I'm just curious, do you have any specific predictions about when/how these things will happen? For example do you think a continent wide conflict causing at least 15,000 casualties per year has a 50% chance of happening within ten years?

  11. They are rendered naked and helpless by the kryptonite of racism charges.

  12. @Deso Dogg
    I agree with Steve's point here, but I think the dysphemism "invasion/invaders" is a bit overwrought---the migrants are a disorganized mass of unarmed civilians, not a Mongol horde or German army. I personally think "settlers/colonists" is a better fit: it captures the dangerous and transformational nature of mass migration without sounding LARPy/hysterical.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @San Fernando Curt, @TheJester, @guest

    Right. It’s mostly up to the second and third generations after footfall to launch the bloodbaths.

    • Agree: Kyle McKenna
  13. @Yak-15
    A good number of Europeans are profiting off this mass of migrants. There is no other explanation.

    Replies: @San Fernando Curt

    A good number of cosmopolitan Europeans want to destroy real Europeans. There’s another explanation for you. What do you think “never again” means anyway?

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    @San Fernando Curt

    I wish I could send those cosmopolitan people to the direst parts of the third world I have personally seen. I want to watch them try to create something good in one of those countries and watch as it is periodically dismantled.

    I want them to be housed in an apartment complex with former childhood soldiers from Congo. I want them to reside amid Guatemalan squatters.

    They have to viscerally understand what is at stake.

  14. @Trelane
    Why not "rescue" Libyans right on the beach before they even board these dangerous vessels? Rescue them in the cities or out in the desert. Why not be their savior, steadfast and true.
    Why not come to their emotional rescue.

    https://youtu.be/PTxQ601mlAY

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @MBlanc46

    Can’t you hear me knockin’?

    Pleased to meet you, won’t you guess my name?

    You can’t always get what you want, but sometimes you get just what you need.

    Start me up, I’m jumpin’ Jack Fash.

    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    @BenKenobi

    Gotta give props to that one, sir.

  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Of course in the real world there is no such thing as NATO or the EU’.

    Truer than that, Steve.

    As Enoch Powell said either a nation is independent and sovereign or it is not – there is no compromise. Therefore, a sovereign Italy would have ‘done something’, never mind the (bollocks) ‘human rights’ laws, to save itself.

    But it ‘can’t’.

    As other EU nations are ‘sovereign’ (or are they not?) they have been compelled to take some invaders off the Italians. But will they?, in the final analysis who runs Hungary?, what’s the point of a having government if its hands are tied at the most pressing, crucial national crisis?

    As can be seen, the EU is a sick joke. A self contradictory illogical moronic sick joke.

    Unfortunately, due to Conservative Party incompetence and possible malice, the UK will probably now be most likely trapped in forever.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Anonymous

    And Powell was clear that the 1975 referendum was about more than a trade agreement. He himself said that the end of the nation state had been adequately debated by Heath et al.

  16. At this pace, they’ll be picking them up on the Libyan shore by the end of the year.

    Might as well start a ferry service.

    You could tie this in with Minority Report-type algorithms and just assume who the future refugees are going to be. Pick them up in the ferry before they go out and need to be rescued.

  17. NYT: “Remember the Population Bomb? It’s Still Ticking”

    NYT: European Rescues of Invaders Just Encourage More Invaders

    Have the powers-that-be just been stockpiling biological weapons to unleash on Europe all this time?

  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, it’s the autistically obsessional insistence amongst the dictatorial, unaccountable, unelected EU Commission that so called ‘Human Rights Legislation’ particularly the 1967 Geneva Refugee Convention, cannot be repealed, suspended or annulled, which is at the root of this madness.

    An ancient continent destroyed for the sake of a piece of paper.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Anonymous

    It is not unaccountable. Express reader alert.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  19. @BenKenobi
    @Trelane

    Can't you hear me knockin'?

    Pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name?

    You can't always get what you want, but sometimes you get just what you need.

    Start me up, I'm jumpin' Jack Fash.

    Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    Gotta give props to that one, sir.

  20. A swimming test would be part of any sensible immigration policy.

  21. Right now, the European Union is doing the smart thing…they’re penalizing Poland, Hungary , and the Czech Republic for not letting in refugees ( https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/06/eu-takes-legal-action-against-czech-republic-hungary-and-poland/530241/). I guess we’re supposed to save Eastern Europe from the Russians, so the EU can destroy it through massive immigration.

    • Replies: @Pepe
    @JohnnyD

    I haven't been to Italy since 2000, and I've never been south of Florence. My girlfriend has never been to Italy.

    I bought 3 guidebooks in April and was starting to plan a trip to central and southern Italy in May 2018.

    I'm seriously considering canceling that trip and going to Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Croatia instead. I'm not kidding. I'm 90% there.

    Anybody been to Rome, Naples and Sicily lately? The news out of Sicily sounds horrible.

  22. More recently, rescues were taking place closer to Libyan territorial waters.

    Actually, “rescues” are taking place on the Libyan beaches.

  23. Think of all the migrants who are dying in the Mediterranean because those Europen rescue vessels have to take them hundreds of miles to Europe after they’ve picked them up. If instead they dropped them off on Libyan shores, just a few miles away, they could be put immediately back into service rescuing other drowning migrants. Surely there’s some international treaty that gives a rescue vessel the right to enter a country’s territorial waters as part of a rescue mission. Why these people are being g.d. selfish to insist on taking them all the way to Europe.

  24. … unexpected consequences according to aid groups monitoring the crisis

    You can’t possibly be serious. What could possibly be more predictable than the effects of providing illiterate third-worlders free transportation and entry to the generous welfare states of northern Europe. They’re flying them into Sweden by the thousands as I type this.

  25. @JerryC
    Nice snark, but of course the Europeans don't need NATO guided missile frigates to stop this, they could stop it by doing nothing. The only conclusion one can draw is that they actually want those people.

    Replies: @bored identity

    Of course they actually want those people.

    The European unelected apparatchiks had intentionaly set up Frontex to be used as Intercontinental Maritime Uber for Huddled Invading Masses.

    It would be like having Keith Ellison and Luis V. Gutierrez in direct charge of CBP & Border Patrol:

    (from McMuffinpedia)

    The European Border and Coast Guard Agency (EBCG), commonly called Frontex (from French: Frontières extĂ©rieures for “external borders”) is an agency of the European Union headquartered in Warsaw.

    The agency initially struggled to recruit staff due to its location in Warsaw, which offered lower pay than some other cities, and the unclear agency mandate.

    According to its third amended Budget 2015, the agency had in that year 336 employees.

    Additionally it could make use of 78 employees which had been seconded from the member states.

    The Agency is able to launch joint operations, including the use of drones when necessary.

    The European Space Agency’s earth observation system Copernicus provides the new Agency with real time satellite surveillance capabilities alongside the current Eurosur border surveillance system.

  26. @Reg Cæsar

    the mighty Chadian invaders and their advanced technology:
     
    Hanging Chadians? Hanging on the gunwale, that is.

    I'm sorry, it's cruel, but that picture called to mind this Todd Rundgren classic.

    Replies: @dr kill

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @dr kill

    My favorite song of 1979.

  27. @Trelane
    Why not "rescue" Libyans right on the beach before they even board these dangerous vessels? Rescue them in the cities or out in the desert. Why not be their savior, steadfast and true.
    Why not come to their emotional rescue.

    https://youtu.be/PTxQ601mlAY

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @MBlanc46

    Don’t give them ideas!

    • Replies: @Travis
    @MBlanc46

    unfortunately the United States already does bring the Africans directly from Africa...we have granted 215,000 diversity visas to Africans over the last decade. Typically the winners of the green card lottery sponsor another 3 family members , so we have invited in 645,000 Africans thanks to our "diversity Lottery" since 2005. If we count the refugees we accepted from African nations the figure is closer to 900,000. So the United States is accepting more Africans each year than Europe.

    So our program is even more destructive, as they have a path to becoming citizens within 5 years.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  28. That name is called recidivism…repeat offender.

    http://hungarytoday.hu/news/pm-orban-want-hungarian-hungary-european-europe-22582

    Poland, Hungary, and Czechia (yes, Czechia, look it up) should launch a Go Fund Me campaign to pay the fines the EU is threatening to levy for not taking their “fair share ” of invaders. I’d contribute.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Tom-in-VA

    How many divisions has the EU?

    Well simply divide the total number of refugees by 10,000 and you'll have a rough estimate.

  29. @Deso Dogg
    I agree with Steve's point here, but I think the dysphemism "invasion/invaders" is a bit overwrought---the migrants are a disorganized mass of unarmed civilians, not a Mongol horde or German army. I personally think "settlers/colonists" is a better fit: it captures the dangerous and transformational nature of mass migration without sounding LARPy/hysterical.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @San Fernando Curt, @TheJester, @guest

    The Germanic “invaders” in 4th and 5th Century Gaul and Italy were also the “settlers/colonists” you mention. They typically occupied land vacated by the demographic implosion of the Roman population. In some cases, the “invaders” made a point of paying for the land … albeit the Romans had to take what was offered. However, history calls them “invaders” since they brought with them an alien social and political culture that replaced the Roman political and social order, similar to what is happening in Europe today.

    An antinatalist version of feminism was all the rage in 4th and 5th Century Rome as it is today in Europe and its colonial legacies. As the saying went, “Rome rules the world, but women rule Rome” … and they weren’t having babies.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @TheJester

    Well, the Goths fled west, to Europe, from their homeland in the Black Sea area, in fear of the Huns. Eventually they secured a toehold in Europe and we know how the rest of the story played out. The sub-Saharans are fleeing what amounts to a Hobbesian "state of nature", heading north to Europe. How THAT story will play out, God only knows!

    , @neprof
    @TheJester

    " Rome rules the world, but women rule Rome"

    Sounds like this could be an interesting academic project, Feminism and the Fall of Rome. Perhaps some brave, post-tenure academic could tackle such a thesis.

    , @Deso Dogg
    @TheJester


    The Germanic “invaders” in 4th and 5th Century Gaul and Italy were also the “settlers/colonists” you mention. They typically occupied land vacated by the demographic implosion of the Roman population. In some cases, the “invaders” made a point of paying for the land … albeit the Romans had to take what was offered. However, history calls them “invaders” since they brought with them an alien social and political culture that replaced the Roman political and social order, similar to what is happening in Europe today.
     
    The Germanic tribes who overran the western Roman empire were generally armed and organized, and thus capable of fighting and defeating Roman military forces in major engagements, e.g. at the battle of Adrianople.

    Do you think that the French or British armies are in any great danger of being defeated in pitched battle by a disorganized blob of unarmed Muslims?

    I agree with you that the colonization of Europe by the global south is a bad thing for the peoples of Europe; I just think it's ridiculous to say that it's LITERALLY as catastrophic as a military invasion.

    Incidentally, I would indeed say that describing the movement of Germanic peoples into the western Roman empire in the 4-5th centuries as just an invasion, the way one might say that e.g. Hannibal invaded Italy in the Second Punic War without any qualification, would be simplistic.
  30. @MBlanc46
    @Trelane

    Don't give them ideas!

    Replies: @Travis

    unfortunately the United States already does bring the Africans directly from Africa…we have granted 215,000 diversity visas to Africans over the last decade. Typically the winners of the green card lottery sponsor another 3 family members , so we have invited in 645,000 Africans thanks to our “diversity Lottery” since 2005. If we count the refugees we accepted from African nations the figure is closer to 900,000. So the United States is accepting more Africans each year than Europe.

    So our program is even more destructive, as they have a path to becoming citizens within 5 years.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Travis


    "So the United States is accepting more Africans each year than Europe."
     
    And that doesn't even count the visa overstayers. I've seen many Africans arrive here on tourist or educational visas. Not a single one ever returned home.
  31. THe EU and Nato were designed to solve the German problem, but unfortunately Germans had thought up a new way to destroy us.

  32. EU has a military defence pact built in that is separate from NATO (Madeline Albright nearly had a stroke) as part of the Lisbon treaty. As a consequence the globalist neo-cons went full out to try and kill Lisbon, they found a form of European integration they didn’t like. Didn’t work.

    So technically NATO is totally obsolete and only serves to potentially get Germany into another land war with Russia, but this time to save the Poles!

    Also have FRONTEX which is actually a pretty good organisation, it just has to follow orders, which are totally insane. But check out their reports, very thorough about who, how and why people are coming.

    Though technically FRONTEX is for both the EU and Schengen, so Iceland as a non-EU but full Schengen member, dispatches one of their coast guard (They have never had a standing army) vessels to the med to pick up illegal immigrants from West/Central Africa coming from North Africa and deposit them in Italy.

    http://icelandreview.com/news/2015/04/15/shots-fired-near-icelandic-coast-guard-vessel
    http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/icelandic-coast-guard-rescues-migrants-mediterranean-sea

    Although there are claims they are making a profit from the FRONTEX payments to the Icelandic coast guard to cover operational costs!
    http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/icelandic-taxpayers-have-profited-refugee-crisis-mediterranean

  33. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester
    @Deso Dogg

    The Germanic "invaders" in 4th and 5th Century Gaul and Italy were also the "settlers/colonists" you mention. They typically occupied land vacated by the demographic implosion of the Roman population. In some cases, the "invaders" made a point of paying for the land ... albeit the Romans had to take what was offered. However, history calls them "invaders" since they brought with them an alien social and political culture that replaced the Roman political and social order, similar to what is happening in Europe today.

    An antinatalist version of feminism was all the rage in 4th and 5th Century Rome as it is today in Europe and its colonial legacies. As the saying went, "Rome rules the world, but women rule Rome" ... and they weren't having babies.

    Replies: @anonymous, @neprof, @Deso Dogg

    Well, the Goths fled west, to Europe, from their homeland in the Black Sea area, in fear of the Huns. Eventually they secured a toehold in Europe and we know how the rest of the story played out. The sub-Saharans are fleeing what amounts to a Hobbesian “state of nature”, heading north to Europe. How THAT story will play out, God only knows!

  34. Unexpected? In about 1965 Milton Friedman said, “We economists don’t know much. But we do know two things: If you want more of something subsidize it. It you want less of something, penalize it”. Huh?

  35. @Tom-in-VA
    That name is called recidivism...repeat offender.

    http://hungarytoday.hu/news/pm-orban-want-hungarian-hungary-european-europe-22582

    Poland, Hungary, and Czechia (yes, Czechia, look it up) should launch a Go Fund Me campaign to pay the fines the EU is threatening to levy for not taking their "fair share " of invaders. I'd contribute.

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    How many divisions has the EU?

    Well simply divide the total number of refugees by 10,000 and you’ll have a rough estimate.

  36. The NYT comments section, usually a source of depression and awe, is surprisingly woke this morning. Yes, there are a few of the Europe-has-this-coming letters, but for the most part, even NYT readers seem aware of the pending existential catastrophe facing Europe.

  37. @TheJester
    @Deso Dogg

    The Germanic "invaders" in 4th and 5th Century Gaul and Italy were also the "settlers/colonists" you mention. They typically occupied land vacated by the demographic implosion of the Roman population. In some cases, the "invaders" made a point of paying for the land ... albeit the Romans had to take what was offered. However, history calls them "invaders" since they brought with them an alien social and political culture that replaced the Roman political and social order, similar to what is happening in Europe today.

    An antinatalist version of feminism was all the rage in 4th and 5th Century Rome as it is today in Europe and its colonial legacies. As the saying went, "Rome rules the world, but women rule Rome" ... and they weren't having babies.

    Replies: @anonymous, @neprof, @Deso Dogg

    ” Rome rules the world, but women rule Rome”

    Sounds like this could be an interesting academic project, Feminism and the Fall of Rome. Perhaps some brave, post-tenure academic could tackle such a thesis.

  38. @JohnnyD
    Right now, the European Union is doing the smart thing...they're penalizing Poland, Hungary , and the Czech Republic for not letting in refugees ( https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/06/eu-takes-legal-action-against-czech-republic-hungary-and-poland/530241/). I guess we're supposed to save Eastern Europe from the Russians, so the EU can destroy it through massive immigration.

    Replies: @Pepe

    I haven’t been to Italy since 2000, and I’ve never been south of Florence. My girlfriend has never been to Italy.

    I bought 3 guidebooks in April and was starting to plan a trip to central and southern Italy in May 2018.

    I’m seriously considering canceling that trip and going to Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Croatia instead. I’m not kidding. I’m 90% there.

    Anybody been to Rome, Naples and Sicily lately? The news out of Sicily sounds horrible.

  39. “Rescue” would presumably entail the collection the purported victims and return them to their launch point–not take them to their intended, if illegal and unauthorized, destination. The smugglers trafficking in human in human cargo would be discouraged from continued activity by the confiscation/destruction of their vessels.

  40. The small political units in Europe ought to start treating this as a deliberate attempt to wipe them out through the process of “TRANSFECTING,” the deliberate insertion of a foreign DNA into the body politic.

    As such, they need to bring back an institution that existed 100 years ago:

    “No military pomp attended its birth or decease. It was not a famous regiment with glamour and whatnot, but a great fighting corps, born for war only and not for parades. From the moment of its formation it was kicking. It was with much sadness that I recall its disbandment in 1922; like old soldiers it simply faded away”. So said former machine gunner George Coppard, in his epic autobiography “With a machine gun to Cambrai”.

    Yes, they need to bring back “The Machine Gun Corps.”

    http://www.1914-1918.net/mgc.htm

    The “Technicals” heavy machine gun equipped pickup trucks and GPMG armed motorcycles with sidecars, co-situated at fire brigade houses, would be ideal.

    They could provide a low-power AM radio transmitter that broadcasts a hostile message to the invaders: “Invade our beach and die!” like a US travel advisory.

    This is neither expensive or controversial: I bet you could get volunteers like for a fire department.

  41. Why is anyone shocked. France voted for more Muslims. There is little appetite to not have most Muslims and Africans.

    Only white men don’t like it. Because only they get screwed over.

  42. There could be a case for charging the EU with racketeering, seeing that it’s obviously colluding with the people trafficking gangs by picking up their cargo and finishing the job for them. There may be some law or treaty that compels EU countries to help any vessel in distress. But if they’re able to spot these vessels so soon, they can surely track them all the way from their point of departure in Africa – and that’s where they should deposit the passengers once they’ve rescued them.

    The cucked-out politicians talk about the traffickers “exploiting” the unfortunate immigrants. What actually happens is the immigrants pay a modest fare and in return they get permanent residency in Europe, which could be worth €1m over a lifetime for each one of them. That’s not exploitation, it’s the bargain of a lifetime. The only ones being screwed are the indigenous people of Europe.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  43. @Travis
    @MBlanc46

    unfortunately the United States already does bring the Africans directly from Africa...we have granted 215,000 diversity visas to Africans over the last decade. Typically the winners of the green card lottery sponsor another 3 family members , so we have invited in 645,000 Africans thanks to our "diversity Lottery" since 2005. If we count the refugees we accepted from African nations the figure is closer to 900,000. So the United States is accepting more Africans each year than Europe.

    So our program is even more destructive, as they have a path to becoming citizens within 5 years.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    “So the United States is accepting more Africans each year than Europe.”

    And that doesn’t even count the visa overstayers. I’ve seen many Africans arrive here on tourist or educational visas. Not a single one ever returned home.

  44. The Poles single-handedly saved European culture and civilization twice from outside forces that wished to destroy everything that it meant, in 1683 and in 1920. They’ve managed to preserve their distinct culture and religion in spite of having their nation dismembered and their intelligentsia exterminated or deported repeatedly by increasingly brutal occupiers throughout the centuries.

    When they warn Brussels on the lack of wisdom inherent in accepting unlimited boatloads of Third World migrants and the insanity of the idea of a Europe where native Europeans are a minority… it is almost as if Warsaw knows what it is talking about, or something.

    Oh, well. Judging by their refusal to play along with Juncker, we can at least count on the former Iron Curtain nations to preserve what can be preserved.

  45. @San Fernando Curt
    @Yak-15

    A good number of cosmopolitan Europeans want to destroy real Europeans. There's another explanation for you. What do you think "never again" means anyway?

    Replies: @Yak-15

    I wish I could send those cosmopolitan people to the direst parts of the third world I have personally seen. I want to watch them try to create something good in one of those countries and watch as it is periodically dismantled.

    I want them to be housed in an apartment complex with former childhood soldiers from Congo. I want them to reside amid Guatemalan squatters.

    They have to viscerally understand what is at stake.

  46. @Anonymous
    'Of course in the real world there is no such thing as NATO or the EU'.

    Truer than that, Steve.

    As Enoch Powell said either a nation is independent and sovereign or it is not - there is no compromise. Therefore, a sovereign Italy would have 'done something', never mind the (bollocks) 'human rights' laws, to save itself.

    But it 'can't'.

    As other EU nations are 'sovereign' (or are they not?) they have been compelled to take some invaders off the Italians. But will they?, in the final analysis who runs Hungary?, what's the point of a having government if its hands are tied at the most pressing, crucial national crisis?

    As can be seen, the EU is a sick joke. A self contradictory illogical moronic sick joke.

    Unfortunately, due to Conservative Party incompetence and possible malice, the UK will probably now be most likely trapped in forever.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    And Powell was clear that the 1975 referendum was about more than a trade agreement. He himself said that the end of the nation state had been adequately debated by Heath et al.

  47. @Anonymous
    Of course, it's the autistically obsessional insistence amongst the dictatorial, unaccountable, unelected EU Commission that so called 'Human Rights Legislation' particularly the 1967 Geneva Refugee Convention, cannot be repealed, suspended or annulled, which is at the root of this madness.

    An ancient continent destroyed for the sake of a piece of paper.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    It is not unaccountable. Express reader alert.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Philip Owen

    Just who, exactly, is the European Commission accountable too?

    Exactly who has the power to interrogate and dismiss commissioners?

    Exactly how is the policy direction of the Commission formed, agreed upon and made?

    How is the so-called 'European Parliament' anything other than a 'rubber-stamping' operation in that it has absolutely no power whatsoever to propose legislation or policy in its own right?

    Whatever happened to the national 'right of veto' of which Euro enthusiasts ensured us, back in the day, would act as the final, decisive 'safeguard' of national sovereignty?

    Why isn't Hungary, for example, using that veto right now over 'refugee' resettlement?

  48. @Deso Dogg
    I agree with Steve's point here, but I think the dysphemism "invasion/invaders" is a bit overwrought---the migrants are a disorganized mass of unarmed civilians, not a Mongol horde or German army. I personally think "settlers/colonists" is a better fit: it captures the dangerous and transformational nature of mass migration without sounding LARPy/hysterical.

    Replies: @Autochthon, @San Fernando Curt, @TheJester, @guest

    “Home invader” is such a mean, inflammatory term, too. They don’t even plan to stay more than a couple minutes, usually Let’s call them home interior passersby.

    You’d probably call a Red Indian warning about the coming white invaders in 1492 a playacting doomsayer.

    “They’re just settling here, geez.”

    • Replies: @Deso Dogg
    @guest

    Did you not read my comment? I agree that the migrant crisis is a bad thing, and I was suggesting "settlers" as a dysphemism to replace the euphemism "refugee".



    You’d probably call a Red Indian warning about the coming white invaders in 1492 a playacting doomsayer.

    “They’re just settling here, geez.”
     
    Uh....yeah, that's exactly my point? The settlement and colonization of the Americas by Europeans was pretty bad for Amerindians; leftists have turned this into the "settler colonialism" meme, which can be thrown back in their faces.
  49. It’s almost as if Europe could use a continent-wide political organization — it could be called, I don’t know, say, the European Union — and a continent-wide military alliance — maybe it could known as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization — to organize the defense of Europe from this invasion.

    I dunno, host. When Europe needs to be defended, don’t its leaders usually call on US industrialists to get rich supplying the materiel, and US citizens to supply the sons and now daughters?

    Consider everyone who already has devoted many hours and risked doxxing and such to rise to Europe’s defense via internet education, outreach, and guerrilla shitlordery intended to hearten resistance and move our Chattering Class off their ideological certainties in a way we could never do while among them in the flesh. (Here and elsewhere they can creep in, in the night, and read the Forbidden Things.)

    I’m going to demand a field commission and a veteran’s pension. Everybody else on the planet is demanding welfare from Europe, and the vast majority of them don’t even support the place or its native people.

  50. Jean Respaul s Camp of the Saints

    Respaul even predicted a Liberation Theology Catholic Pope from Sputh America who was wildly pro Muslim invaders

  51. @Autochthon
    @Deso Dogg

    The genocide of a race, the end of civilisation (sustained only by that race), and the ensuing ecological disaster and Malthusian death race are nothing to get hysterical about, after all....

    Replies: @Deso Dogg

    >genocide
    >end of civilization
    >ecological disaster

    Thank you for demonstrating the hysteria I mentioned. I’m just curious, do you have any specific predictions about when/how these things will happen? For example do you think a continent wide conflict causing at least 15,000 casualties per year has a 50% chance of happening within ten years?

  52. @TheJester
    @Deso Dogg

    The Germanic "invaders" in 4th and 5th Century Gaul and Italy were also the "settlers/colonists" you mention. They typically occupied land vacated by the demographic implosion of the Roman population. In some cases, the "invaders" made a point of paying for the land ... albeit the Romans had to take what was offered. However, history calls them "invaders" since they brought with them an alien social and political culture that replaced the Roman political and social order, similar to what is happening in Europe today.

    An antinatalist version of feminism was all the rage in 4th and 5th Century Rome as it is today in Europe and its colonial legacies. As the saying went, "Rome rules the world, but women rule Rome" ... and they weren't having babies.

    Replies: @anonymous, @neprof, @Deso Dogg

    The Germanic “invaders” in 4th and 5th Century Gaul and Italy were also the “settlers/colonists” you mention. They typically occupied land vacated by the demographic implosion of the Roman population. In some cases, the “invaders” made a point of paying for the land … albeit the Romans had to take what was offered. However, history calls them “invaders” since they brought with them an alien social and political culture that replaced the Roman political and social order, similar to what is happening in Europe today.

    The Germanic tribes who overran the western Roman empire were generally armed and organized, and thus capable of fighting and defeating Roman military forces in major engagements, e.g. at the battle of Adrianople.

    Do you think that the French or British armies are in any great danger of being defeated in pitched battle by a disorganized blob of unarmed Muslims?

    I agree with you that the colonization of Europe by the global south is a bad thing for the peoples of Europe; I just think it’s ridiculous to say that it’s LITERALLY as catastrophic as a military invasion.

    Incidentally, I would indeed say that describing the movement of Germanic peoples into the western Roman empire in the 4-5th centuries as just an invasion, the way one might say that e.g. Hannibal invaded Italy in the Second Punic War without any qualification, would be simplistic.

  53. @guest
    @Deso Dogg

    "Home invader" is such a mean, inflammatory term, too. They don't even plan to stay more than a couple minutes, usually Let's call them home interior passersby.

    You'd probably call a Red Indian warning about the coming white invaders in 1492 a playacting doomsayer.

    "They're just settling here, geez."

    Replies: @Deso Dogg

    Did you not read my comment? I agree that the migrant crisis is a bad thing, and I was suggesting “settlers” as a dysphemism to replace the euphemism “refugee”.

    You’d probably call a Red Indian warning about the coming white invaders in 1492 a playacting doomsayer.

    “They’re just settling here, geez.”

    Uh….yeah, that’s exactly my point? The settlement and colonization of the Americas by Europeans was pretty bad for Amerindians; leftists have turned this into the “settler colonialism” meme, which can be thrown back in their faces.

  54. In case anyone hasn’t notice, it was a similar breakdown in the control of the flow of people across national borders that immediately preceded the opening of the Berlin Wall and the fall of Communism.

  55. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Owen
    @Anonymous

    It is not unaccountable. Express reader alert.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Just who, exactly, is the European Commission accountable too?

    Exactly who has the power to interrogate and dismiss commissioners?

    Exactly how is the policy direction of the Commission formed, agreed upon and made?

    How is the so-called ‘European Parliament’ anything other than a ‘rubber-stamping’ operation in that it has absolutely no power whatsoever to propose legislation or policy in its own right?

    Whatever happened to the national ‘right of veto’ of which Euro enthusiasts ensured us, back in the day, would act as the final, decisive ‘safeguard’ of national sovereignty?

    Why isn’t Hungary, for example, using that veto right now over ‘refugee’ resettlement?

  56. @dr kill
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuRnTBDCrhk

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    My favorite song of 1979.

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