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I dunno … martial law?

The New York Times Editorial Board plaintively asks:

What’s Obama’s Plan C for Immigration?
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD MAY 29, 2015

What a bad week it was for President Obama’s immigration policies, and for millions living in limbo in the United States.

A federal appeals panel swatted down Mr. Obama’s latest executive actions to limit deportations — key elements of his strategy to mend a broken immigration system through administrative fixes after a Republican House strangled full-scale legislative reform. It was the second time Republican-appointed judges, with partisan efficiency, picked apart what the administration said was a rock-solid legal argument for using its discretion to protect more than four million people from being deported. …

So what is Plan C? …

The administration also needs to rein in rogue agents who haven’t gotten the message that they cannot continue to seize everybody they find.

According to the courts, the bigger problem is rogue Presidents.

 
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  1. NYTimes: Democratic operatives with editorial pages, where the political ends justify the policy means.

    “How dare you suggest that ‘prosecutorial discretion’ doesn’t include 4-5 million ‘no deportation’ affidavits.”

    Plan C? I must’ve missed Plan B.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Forbes

    Plan A: GOP caves to amnesty

    Plan B: Go around the GOP to pass amnesty by executive action

    Plan C: DOJ coup???

  2. Steve, can we have your blogroll back, please?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Veracitor

    I presume it will be back when Ron gets done upgrading the software. In the meantime, sorry for the inconvenience.

  3. NYTimes: Democratic operatives with editorial pages. The political ends justify the policy means.

    How dare you suggest prosecutorial discretion doesn’t include 4-5 million “do not deport” affidavits!

    Facts inconvenient to The Narrative will be ignored.

  4. The American middle class is more worried about massive 3rd world immigration than the American underclass. You do not see opposition from the American underclass about unlimited immigration from countries with extremely different religions and cultures from that of The U.S.

    I think it is because the American underclass does not believe their welfare gravy train ride will ever end. They believe massive immigration will not bankrupt the country and result in them losing their government handouts.

    Steve should include the American underclass in his definition of the American fringe, because the American underclass have the same voting pattern as Nonwhites, the super wealthy elite, and Homosexuals.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Jefferson

    Likelihood of voting is correlated with level of education and income. The underclass must be cajoled into voting, that's why the Democrats are trying to make it easy as possible. It's also why they use fraud, if the underclass voted at the same rates as the overclass, fraud would not be needed.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    Underclass blacks tend to have their rage directed against the police, whites, and fellow underclass blacks. For a lot of them, day to day conflict often involves other gangs in their neighborhoods.

    Underclass and non-underclass whites have been cowed into submission over the last few decades. The 1980s was probably the last time when underclass whites would've felt comfortable asserting themselves on a large scale. Also, lots of them have fallen into drug addiction and alcoholism, so they're often too out of it to do much. Another issue is that there's a MUCH weaker sense of white American identity than they used to have, so it's hard to organize when you're so atomized.

    Back in the 80s, there were places like the all-white Southie projects, full of thuggish and racially antagonistic lower-class white delinquents. In 2015, there seem to many blacks who fall in that category, but close to zero whites. If there's ever a racial revolution from the underclass, it'll be blacks going after whites.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Jefferson

    , @Rob McX
    @Jefferson

    The black underclass is indifferent to immigration, as it is to most other political issues. Its representatives - Jackson, Sharpton, et al - support large-scale non-white immigration and amnesty, not because it's good for blacks (quite the contrary, of course), but because the people who give these representatives their power will not stand for anything else. Given the way blacks riot at perceived injustices, they would be a force to be reckoned with if they were incited to protest at the effects of immigration on them, e.g. Hispanics taking over their neighbourhoods. Hence the importance of having docile black "leaders" who who are all on board with the project to replace the American founding stock.

  5. Steve; do you have to pay the NYT fees to keep them supplying such a rich vein of Onion-grade material for you to work? I can’t believe that they keep providing this stuff for you at no cost.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Alfa158

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/08/importance-of-being-parodic.html

  6. It must be wonderful to be a part of Socialists ‘R Us. Come up with the phrase “broken immigration system” and you never have to strain your brain again…ever.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @ricpic

    "It must be wonderful to be a part of Socialists ‘R Us. Come up with the phrase “broken immigration system” and you never have to strain your brain again…ever."

    No kidding!

  7. I just said this but Holy essentially means a thing set apart. The Editors of the NYT learned this in yeshiva. America cannot be a thing set apart because there is only one true God, the God of Israel.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @David

    No editor of the NYT has ever been near a yeshiva, more is the pity.

    , @Anonymous
    @David

    There is something very wrong with you. I enjoy reading intelligent jew-obsessives but you sound like a radically unintelligent, yet jewy, anti-jew obsessive!


    Truly an idiot.

    , @sprfls
    @David

    The NYTimes Editorial Board aren't the Elders of Zion -- their identities are public. Not many Jews at all by my count (3, max 4). This percentage corresponds perfectly with how many Jews live in NYC.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/opinion/editorialboard.html

    Don't blame another group just because YOU idiots threw your own country to the garbage, as did others in Western Europe. Is Sweden also controlled by the Jewish media? How about Holland? LOL!

    Man up and take some responsibility for your own political and social downfall.

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @ben tillman

  8. Lol. “Rouge agents” that continue to enforce the law. Unreal.

  9. The editorial board has a name-o. In this case, probably Downes and Rosenthal. Both of whom I’ve written about and tweeted, and if enough had helped with that then we might be able to undercut them to their weak supporters and cause them to at least partly change their tune.

    Regarding Obama’s defeat, all those millions of illegal aliens will remain in the U.S. and might be covered by Obama’s *third* amnesty before he leaves office. Or, President Hillary might succeed where Obama failed. Obama didn’t really lose, he just didn’t win.

    It could have been a big loss for Obama if enough people had worked together doing smart things, but considering that hasn’t happened for many years I’m not looking for things to change.

  10. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    I am really sick of fecal-smeared toilet paper staring up at me and reeking from beside the toilets of public restrooms. I’m sick of the theft and rude mannerisms. I’m sick of the bullying of white students in schools. I am sick of the Lulac crowd taking over cities in my own country.

    But small actions can echo throughout the future. My mom grew up a Catholic in Houston in the 1960s when the Klan was still a thing. She always talked about Vidor, Texas with a slight amount of fear and disgust because they had the reputation of being he headquarters of the Klan. In 1991, they had a huge Klan rally to protest the first black family moving to town (you can find it on youtube.) Mind you, this is East Texas where even the small towns have a fairly sizable black population. Fast forward to today. How many blacks live in the East Texas town of Vidor? 7 out of 10,000 (07%). It is otherwise 97% white. Clearly, Klan rallies work long after they’ve ceased. Something to think about.

  11. Juju says:

    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work “legal Americans” don’t necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here “illegally.”

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it’s not is tantamount to claiming all this “birther” garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a “legitimate” concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn’t even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    • Replies: @Kudzu Bob
    @Juju

    Actually, Jujube Fruit, I get the impression that most of Steve's readers want all the Mestizos out of the US, even if that means we have to make our own beds. I know that I do. The rest of your post was just blahblahblah and not worth a response, except to say that you sure like to give the quote key on your laptop a workout. Maybe you should save wear and tear on your swollen pinky by hiring an illegal to press it for you.

    , @Anonymous
    @Juju

    You must be new here. Neither Steve Sailer nor most of his commentariat buy the corporate argument that illegal immigrants do the jobs that Americans just won't do. They do jobs that Americans won't do at the prices greedy corporate executives want to pay.

    , @WGG
    @Juju

    What you think you know about the average American's mindset is way off. We absolutely don't think it is okay for them to be here cornering the market in the trades and driving down wages. You're confusing us with CEO's. We don't want them here now *or* later. They broke in to abuse our genteel nature, and we want them gone at all costs.

    As Mexican or South American is not a race, it's not a racist view. Culturalist, perhaps. All other cultures assimilated because the spigot was cut off and so they were forced to. These people will never assimilate until they are forced to choose to be legal Americans without flitting back and forth across the border. Besides that, they suck up more welfare and commit more crime than the average native born citizen, so they are a drag on our culture, for which they have disdain anyway.

    I realize you are trolling, but until you've had a drunk Mexican threaten you with a filthy pocket knife or cheat you on a contracting job or beat on you for being white, you don't know what in the F you are talking about you moron. And, if you do like all those things, you should be locked up in a rubber room.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Juju

    Good lampoon.

    , @Anonymous
    @Juju

    You must be new here. You don't know the positions of the people you're talking to you. I don't want them here legally, illegally, documented, undocumented, citizen, alien, Predator, or whatever.

    , @ben tillman
    @Juju


    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core.
     
    No one has ever proposed a path to citizenship for illegals. Instead, the proposal is always to give them a special super-citizenship that gives them priority over White Americans and confers upon them all sorts of privileges and immunities that Whites do not get.

    And it is categorically impossible for opposition to immigration to be racist -- ever! If there is a racial angle, it is always -- tautologically -- the immigrants and their supporters who are the racists. Racism is bad; thus, it must be the aggressors rather than those defending themselves who are the racists. The immigrants are necessarily the aggressors, and the natives always act in defense of their interests.
    , @jill
    @Juju

    Legal immigration that has been averaging about 1 million per year since 1989 is simply not enough?
    http://www.dhs.gov/yearbook-immigration-statistics-2013-lawful-permanent-residents

    It is not about racism, it's about jobs. Jobs for Americans.

    The BLS reports that 23.1 million adult (16-plus) immigrants (legal and illegal) were working in November 2007 and 25.1 million were working in November of this year — a two million increase. For natives, 124.01 million were working in November 2007 compared to 122.56 million in November 2014 — a 1.46 million decrease. ( Native Americans accounted for 69 percent of the growth in the 16 and older population from 2007 to 2014. )
    http://cis.org/despite-recent-job-growth-native-employment-still-below-2007

    More than 5.46 million foreign nationals have received work permits from the federal government since 2009
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/397713/report-federal-government-issued-nearly-55-million-work-permits-foreign-nationals-2009

    American STEM jobs:
    DHS Program that converts foreign college graduates back to foreign students has denied American workers more than 430,000 jobs during the years 2009-2013
    http://www.cis.org/north/obscure-immigration-program-hurts-us-residents-both-young-and-old

    H-1B Visa Program:
    http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/h1b10min.html

    Information technology workers at Southern California Edison (SCE) are being laid off and replaced by workers from India. Some employees are training their H-1B visa holding replacements, and many have already lost their jobs.
    http://www.computerworld.com/article/2879083/southern-california-edison-it-workers-beyond-furious-over-h-1b-replacements.html

    A restructuring and H-1B use affect on Walt Disney Magic Kingdom’s IT operations
    http://tinyurl.com/oepbe4z

    So where is the racism Juju? I will tell you where it is. It's in the effect that open borders, illegal immigration, H-1B visas, globalization, GATT, WTO, NAFTA, and all the other free trade agreements has had on American Blacks...

    'Blacks disproportionately left the labor market, with the labor force participation rate for African Americans dropping by 0.3 percentage points to 60.2 percent, the lowest rate since December of 1977. The rate for African American men fell 0.7 percentage points to 65.6 percent, the lowest on record."
    http://www.cepr.net/blogs/cepr-blog/drop-in-unemployment-due-to-people-leaving-the-labor-force

    https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS11300031

    So who is the real racist Juju?

    , @Beach
    @Juju


    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work “legal Americans” don’t necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question.
     
    If you're going to put scare quotes around "legal Americans," why do you give a rip about illegals being granted citizenship? It clearly means nothing to you.
    , @Anonym
    @Juju

    It would be awesome if the Republicans did have a "racist" ideology.

    , @Anonymous
    @Juju


    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels
     
    No, it's not fine. Most definitely not. Not to anyone who would like to preserve the best that this country has to offer to its citizens.
    , @Anonymous
    @Juju

    Look.
    Who are the offenders here? The people who willingly and knowingly broke the law?
    Who are the people who have out stayed their welcome who are resented and not wanted by the people who they so rudely imposed themselves upon?
    Do you know the difference between right and wrong?, of basic morality? , of the quaint notion of a society run by the rule of law? Or the equally quaint notion that political power is, supposedly, ultimately in the hands of the citizens of a nation?

    The illegals willfully and knowingly broke the law of the land. As such they should be treated in exactly the same way as any other lawbreaker. To act otherwise is immoral and unconscionable. I do not know what moral codes you operate under, but a democratic polity must respect the rule of law, lest it descends into dictatorship.

    , @donut
    @Juju

    Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out .

    , @Nico
    @Juju

    Come on, man. As trolls go, you don't even hold a candle to Enrique.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Juju

    I think only three of my neighbors, out of forty homes, cut their own lawns. All of the landscape crews are white guys, and gals. The crew that replaced my roof and my neighbor's, all white. My friend has a concrete company and his crews are all white, with some blacks. The driveway sealing crew, nasty work, all white. The largest poultry farm, eggs, in NY State is a few miles away...bad to be down wind from them. They plow and plant hundreds of acres of land. Wyoming county, not far from here, has more cows, dairy, than people. Nary a Hispanic farmhand in sight. Whites are doing jobs that "Americans don't want to do" all around me. They must be racists.

    , @JSM
    @Juju

    racist

    Horrors! Vapors! I...I...I... I'll clutch my pearls, I will! You called me a...a...a... name!
    How...how could you?

    Actually, on second thought, if it'll get me what I want, that the imminvaders from Mexico and points south leave, I'll let you call me racist all day. Deal?

  12. >The administration also needs to rein in rogue agents who haven’t gotten the message that they cannot continue to seize everybody they find.<

    we need some "tea party" wetbacks.

  13. I suppose the best the NYT can hope for is that the illegals make plenty of phone calls to Mexico discussing their possible return.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Rob McX

    Certainly what Carlos Slim is hoping for...

  14. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The administration also needs to rein in rogue agents who haven’t gotten the message that they cannot continue to seize everybody they find.”

    Deer agentz, Wen u find ’em:

    Say “Hi”!

    Ask abot the time.

    Tel’em bout the Golden Rowds.

    Tel’em hav a goot sob story.

    B sewer to full out yor time cart.

  15. Plan C is Obama ignoring the courts and ordering that there be no civil deportation cases filed and that employers will not be prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @countenance

    Pretty much. The courts can't force Obama to enforce the law.

    Replies: @countenance, @HHSIII, @tsotha

  16. @countenance
    Plan C is Obama ignoring the courts and ordering that there be no civil deportation cases filed and that employers will not be prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    Pretty much. The courts can’t force Obama to enforce the law.

    • Replies: @countenance
    @Whiskey

    Essentially the meat of the court case is the work permits. No judge can make Obama enforce the law. So to get "deportation deferral," all Obama needs to do is sign an order that disallows whatever agency that would otherwise do so from filing civil deportation cases.

    The work permits are another matter. If the courts say he can't, then he can't. But there's a way around it even if they do. Simply sign an EO stating that employers won't be prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens.

    , @HHSIII
    @Whiskey

    They can send the U.S. Marshal after him.

    , @tsotha
    @Whiskey


    Pretty much. The courts can’t force Obama to enforce the law.
     
    Oh yes they can. It's call a "Writ of Mandamus", otherwise known as a "writ of do your damn job". It's not that the courts don't have the power. It's that they don't want to exercise that power.

    Replies: @Lot

  17. The dictatorship of the diversariat.

  18. This is too much to comprehend. The NYT has become an enemy of the historic American population. Imagine that statement. The NYT, along with the entire MSM, leftist blogosphere, and correct thinking people, are at war with the historic American middle class. They do not care that middle class wages have stagnated for over 40 years. They look upon us as ” those people who cling to their guns and religion”. Amazing.

  19. This and all other NYT articles about immigration should conclude with the phrase: “This message brought to you by Carlos Slim”

    “The administration also needs to rein in rogue agents who haven’t gotten the message that they cannot continue to seize everybody they find.”

    Will the administration rein in those rogue agents who harrass people for withdrawing their own money from the bank, in amounts and on a schedule of their own choosing?

  20. What a bad week it was for President Obama’s immigration policies, and for millions living in limbo in the United States.

    It was a good week for citizens who believe that the Executive Branch should enforce laws established by the Legislative Branch of the US Government.

  21. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Actually, Jujube Fruit, I get the impression that most of Steve’s readers want all the Mestizos out of the US, even if that means we have to make our own beds. I know that I do. The rest of your post was just blahblahblah and not worth a response, except to say that you sure like to give the quote key on your laptop a workout. Maybe you should save wear and tear on your swollen pinky by hiring an illegal to press it for you.

  22. @ricpic
    It must be wonderful to be a part of Socialists 'R Us. Come up with the phrase "broken immigration system" and you never have to strain your brain again...ever.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “It must be wonderful to be a part of Socialists ‘R Us. Come up with the phrase “broken immigration system” and you never have to strain your brain again…ever.”

    No kidding!

  23. “Juju says:

    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work “legal Americans” don’t necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here “illegally.””

    Yes, they are here illegally. I don’t want them here. Not to pick fruits, not to make beds, not for anything.

    “All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke!”

    Then puke. And choke on it.

    “At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why?”

    Why? Because it was a bad deal for actual Americans. At least the Republican rank-and-file managed to scare those GOP immigration-stooges into not voting their masters (i.e., donors) will.

    “Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it’s not is tantamount to claiming all this “birther” garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a “legitimate” concern. I think not.

    I agree. You do not think.

    “The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.”

    McCain is a corrupt, senile, blood-thirsty old fool.

    “To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.”

    Racism, Schmacism. I don’t care about your charges of “racism”. Besides, people have a right to be racist if they so choose. The american public has every right to exclude anyone they want for any reason at all.

    Oh, and by the way,………..go to Hell, nitwit.

  24. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    You must be new here. Neither Steve Sailer nor most of his commentariat buy the corporate argument that illegal immigrants do the jobs that Americans just won’t do. They do jobs that Americans won’t do at the prices greedy corporate executives want to pay.

  25. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:
    @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    What you think you know about the average American’s mindset is way off. We absolutely don’t think it is okay for them to be here cornering the market in the trades and driving down wages. You’re confusing us with CEO’s. We don’t want them here now *or* later. They broke in to abuse our genteel nature, and we want them gone at all costs.

    As Mexican or South American is not a race, it’s not a racist view. Culturalist, perhaps. All other cultures assimilated because the spigot was cut off and so they were forced to. These people will never assimilate until they are forced to choose to be legal Americans without flitting back and forth across the border. Besides that, they suck up more welfare and commit more crime than the average native born citizen, so they are a drag on our culture, for which they have disdain anyway.

    I realize you are trolling, but until you’ve had a drunk Mexican threaten you with a filthy pocket knife or cheat you on a contracting job or beat on you for being white, you don’t know what in the F you are talking about you moron. And, if you do like all those things, you should be locked up in a rubber room.

  26. @Whiskey
    @countenance

    Pretty much. The courts can't force Obama to enforce the law.

    Replies: @countenance, @HHSIII, @tsotha

    Essentially the meat of the court case is the work permits. No judge can make Obama enforce the law. So to get “deportation deferral,” all Obama needs to do is sign an order that disallows whatever agency that would otherwise do so from filing civil deportation cases.

    The work permits are another matter. If the courts say he can’t, then he can’t. But there’s a way around it even if they do. Simply sign an EO stating that employers won’t be prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens.

  27. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. “

    It’s this sort of thing that make me completely okay with racism and against multi-culturalism. After you go multi-cult, you never hear the end of it. You can’t do enough to satisfy all the imposing people. It just constant whining. Any time you decide you have interests to defend, it will be racist! racist! racist! forever and ever.

    I now believe that everyone is racist, though sometimes it gets expressed in warped ways. I am sure you are a racist. Your statement is completely racist. You are an anti-native-american racist. You should be ashamed to have so much racist hate within you!

    And how do you know that Americans don’t want those jobs? The real economy hasn’t been going up in a long time. You’re okay with stealing from Americans it seems. With open immigration, that stealing can go on forever. Perhaps the problem is you are not a good person.

  28. Best comment at the New York Times editorial:

    William Case Texas 10 hours ago

    The nation’s immigration system is “broken” because illegal immigrants who make it past the Border Patrol understand they have virtually no chance of being deported unless they are caught and convicted of a felony criminal offense. A full 95 percent of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s fiscal 2014 non-criminal removals involved recent border crossers, repeat immigration violators, or immigration court fugitives. Only five percent of illegal immigrants removed were removed simply for being in the country illegally.

    During fiscal year 2014. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement conducted only 102,224 removals of individuals apprehended in the interior of the United States. This represents about 0.9 percent of the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants. Of the 102,224 deported, 86,923 had been convicted of crimes. So ICE deported only 15,301 people for being in the country illegally.

    In addition to the deportation of illegal immigrants living in the United States, ICE conducted 213,719 removals of individuals apprehended at the border while attempting to unlawfully enter the United States. Of these individuals, 91,037 had criminal records. ICE turned back only 122,682 illegal border crossers who had no criminal records.

    However, about 48 percent of illegal immigrants enter the country lawfully, but overstay their visas.

    • Replies: @jill
    @Clyde

    "Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers."
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-documents-show-homeland-security-released-165900-convicted-criminal-aliens-throughout-u-s-as-of-april-26-2014/

  29. @Whiskey
    @countenance

    Pretty much. The courts can't force Obama to enforce the law.

    Replies: @countenance, @HHSIII, @tsotha

    They can send the U.S. Marshal after him.

  30. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Is there a plan that makes some use of or Department of Defense? Do they defend the border, or is that now passe?

    Border War (1910-1919):

    “…

    1910 – United States Army deploys to several border towns to protect American lives and property and to ensure that fighting between rebel and federal forces remains on the Mexican side of the border.

    1912 – U.S. troops in Naco, Arizona, begin construction of Fort Naco, one of 12 forts built by the United States Army along the border for protection against warring Mexican forces.

    1912 – United States Army continues garrisoning American border towns.”

    Cinco de Mayo:

    “1916 – On 5 May, Villa’s rebels attacked two more American border towns, Glenn Springs, Texas, and Boquillas, Texas.

    They could do it in 1916… (so what’s the problem today?):

    “1916 – President Wilson orders the National Guard to reinforce the United States Army garrisons at the border line. By August, an estimated 117,000 guardsmen were stationed along the border in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.”

    And here’s an interesting trivia footnote:

    “1918 – Permanent border wall established along the border of Nogales, Sonora, and Nogales, Arizona, after the Battle of Ambos Nogales…

    …The assault was successful and the Mexican troops with their German advisers were defeated. In all, 30-129 Mexicans, two Germans, and seven Americans died in the fighting. After the battle, German military activity in Sonora ceased. The Battle of Ambos Nogales was the last major engagement of the Border War.”

  31. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Good lampoon.

  32. • Replies: @Nathan Wartooth
    @JohnnyWalker123

    He gets to throw his voters a bone while staying true to his corporate overlords.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  33. A federal appeals panel swatted down Mr. Obama’s latest executive actions to limit deportations — key elements of his strategy to mend a broken immigration system through administrative fixes after a Republican House strangled full-scale legislative reform. It was the second time Republican-appointed judges, with partisan efficiency, picked apart what the administration said was a rock-solid legal argument for using its discretion to protect more than four million people from being deported. …

    The NYT is a bunch of shameless and malevolent liars. These “latest” executive actions have nothing whatsoever to do with limiting deportations. That was a fait accompli long ago. Maintaining the status quo hardly requires any orders. No, the “latest” actions consist of such things as giving illegal aliens work visas.

  34. Juju’s comment is a verbatim copy-paste of the comment by tquinlan on the NYT editorial Steve linked to.

  35. Ss quoted:

    The administration also needs to rein in rogue agents who haven’t gotten the message that they cannot continue to seize everybody they find.

    Right, officers of the court who enforce the law are apparently exceeding their rightful authority. Clearly they did not get the memo that border control is at the discretion of the executive. A policy that, we may safely conclude, is vigorously enforced by the resident of 1600 Pensylvania Avenue Washington.

  36. @Alfa158
    Steve; do you have to pay the NYT fees to keep them supplying such a rich vein of Onion-grade material for you to work? I can't believe that they keep providing this stuff for you at no cost.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  37. @Veracitor
    Steve, can we have your blogroll back, please?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I presume it will be back when Ron gets done upgrading the software. In the meantime, sorry for the inconvenience.

  38. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    You must be new here. You don’t know the positions of the people you’re talking to you. I don’t want them here legally, illegally, documented, undocumented, citizen, alien, Predator, or whatever.

  39. @JohnnyWalker123
    Rick Santorum wants to cut immigration by 25 percent.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/07/exclusive-rick-santorum-lays-out-plan-to-reduce-immigration-by-25-percent/

    Replies: @Nathan Wartooth

    He gets to throw his voters a bone while staying true to his corporate overlords.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Nathan Wartooth

    He's still better than Cruz/Rubio/Bush, who want to increase legal immigration. Cruz actually wants 400K-500K H1b visas handed out per year.

    The value in Santorum is not that he's going to win and cut immigration. The value is that he'll introduce legal immigration into the debates and there will be a vigorous public discussion of the issue. Then hopefully, our side can win the debate and legal immigration restrictionism can gain steam. So no matter who wins in 2016, we'll have less immigration.

    It's a hope, but a realistic hope. Why do you think that opinion journalists like David Brooks and Jennifer Rubin are so nervous about talk of cutting immigration? They understand that if this debate takes off, their side (Jews and oligarchs) could lose.

  40. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core.

    No one has ever proposed a path to citizenship for illegals. Instead, the proposal is always to give them a special super-citizenship that gives them priority over White Americans and confers upon them all sorts of privileges and immunities that Whites do not get.

    And it is categorically impossible for opposition to immigration to be racist — ever! If there is a racial angle, it is always — tautologically — the immigrants and their supporters who are the racists. Racism is bad; thus, it must be the aggressors rather than those defending themselves who are the racists. The immigrants are necessarily the aggressors, and the natives always act in defense of their interests.

  41. jill says:
    @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Legal immigration that has been averaging about 1 million per year since 1989 is simply not enough?
    http://www.dhs.gov/yearbook-immigration-statistics-2013-lawful-permanent-residents

    It is not about racism, it’s about jobs. Jobs for Americans.

    The BLS reports that 23.1 million adult (16-plus) immigrants (legal and illegal) were working in November 2007 and 25.1 million were working in November of this year — a two million increase. For natives, 124.01 million were working in November 2007 compared to 122.56 million in November 2014 — a 1.46 million decrease. ( Native Americans accounted for 69 percent of the growth in the 16 and older population from 2007 to 2014. )
    http://cis.org/despite-recent-job-growth-native-employment-still-below-2007

    More than 5.46 million foreign nationals have received work permits from the federal government since 2009
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/397713/report-federal-government-issued-nearly-55-million-work-permits-foreign-nationals-2009

    American STEM jobs:
    DHS Program that converts foreign college graduates back to foreign students has denied American workers more than 430,000 jobs during the years 2009-2013
    http://www.cis.org/north/obscure-immigration-program-hurts-us-residents-both-young-and-old

    H-1B Visa Program:
    http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/h1b10min.html

    Information technology workers at Southern California Edison (SCE) are being laid off and replaced by workers from India. Some employees are training their H-1B visa holding replacements, and many have already lost their jobs.
    http://www.computerworld.com/article/2879083/southern-california-edison-it-workers-beyond-furious-over-h-1b-replacements.html

    A restructuring and H-1B use affect on Walt Disney Magic Kingdom’s IT operations
    http://tinyurl.com/oepbe4z

    So where is the racism Juju? I will tell you where it is. It’s in the effect that open borders, illegal immigration, H-1B visas, globalization, GATT, WTO, NAFTA, and all the other free trade agreements has had on American Blacks…

    ‘Blacks disproportionately left the labor market, with the labor force participation rate for African Americans dropping by 0.3 percentage points to 60.2 percent, the lowest rate since December of 1977. The rate for African American men fell 0.7 percentage points to 65.6 percent, the lowest on record.”
    http://www.cepr.net/blogs/cepr-blog/drop-in-unemployment-due-to-people-leaving-the-labor-force

    https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS11300031

    So who is the real racist Juju?

  42. jill says:
    @Clyde
    Best comment at the New York Times editorial:

    William Case Texas 10 hours ago

    The nation’s immigration system is “broken” because illegal immigrants who make it past the Border Patrol understand they have virtually no chance of being deported unless they are caught and convicted of a felony criminal offense. A full 95 percent of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s fiscal 2014 non-criminal removals involved recent border crossers, repeat immigration violators, or immigration court fugitives. Only five percent of illegal immigrants removed were removed simply for being in the country illegally.

    During fiscal year 2014. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement conducted only 102,224 removals of individuals apprehended in the interior of the United States. This represents about 0.9 percent of the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants. Of the 102,224 deported, 86,923 had been convicted of crimes. So ICE deported only 15,301 people for being in the country illegally.

    In addition to the deportation of illegal immigrants living in the United States, ICE conducted 213,719 removals of individuals apprehended at the border while attempting to unlawfully enter the United States. Of these individuals, 91,037 had criminal records. ICE turned back only 122,682 illegal border crossers who had no criminal records.

    However, about 48 percent of illegal immigrants enter the country lawfully, but overstay their visas.

    Replies: @jill

    “Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-documents-show-homeland-security-released-165900-convicted-criminal-aliens-throughout-u-s-as-of-april-26-2014/

  43. @David
    I just said this but Holy essentially means a thing set apart. The Editors of the NYT learned this in yeshiva. America cannot be a thing set apart because there is only one true God, the God of Israel.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anonymous, @sprfls

    No editor of the NYT has ever been near a yeshiva, more is the pity.

  44. @Whiskey
    @countenance

    Pretty much. The courts can't force Obama to enforce the law.

    Replies: @countenance, @HHSIII, @tsotha

    Pretty much. The courts can’t force Obama to enforce the law.

    Oh yes they can. It’s call a “Writ of Mandamus”, otherwise known as a “writ of do your damn job”. It’s not that the courts don’t have the power. It’s that they don’t want to exercise that power.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @tsotha

    More specifically, the last resort for someone who disobeys a federal judge is being jailed indefinitely without bail for civil contempt. The most common contexts for this are people who refuse to testify when they have no right to refuse, and people who refuse to pay judgments.

    This is known as coercive rather than punitive incarceration and you get no jury or trial, rather you are jailed until you end your contempt. You also cannot be pardoned since you are not being jailed for a crime.

  45. @David
    I just said this but Holy essentially means a thing set apart. The Editors of the NYT learned this in yeshiva. America cannot be a thing set apart because there is only one true God, the God of Israel.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anonymous, @sprfls

    There is something very wrong with you. I enjoy reading intelligent jew-obsessives but you sound like a radically unintelligent, yet jewy, anti-jew obsessive!

    Truly an idiot.

  46. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work “legal Americans” don’t necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question.

    If you’re going to put scare quotes around “legal Americans,” why do you give a rip about illegals being granted citizenship? It clearly means nothing to you.

  47. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    It would be awesome if the Republicans did have a “racist” ideology.

  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels

    No, it’s not fine. Most definitely not. Not to anyone who would like to preserve the best that this country has to offer to its citizens.

  49. Of course, the NYT would never but never pontificate about ‘Democrat appointed judges picking apart with partisan efficiency’.

  50. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Look.
    Who are the offenders here? The people who willingly and knowingly broke the law?
    Who are the people who have out stayed their welcome who are resented and not wanted by the people who they so rudely imposed themselves upon?
    Do you know the difference between right and wrong?, of basic morality? , of the quaint notion of a society run by the rule of law? Or the equally quaint notion that political power is, supposedly, ultimately in the hands of the citizens of a nation?

    The illegals willfully and knowingly broke the law of the land. As such they should be treated in exactly the same way as any other lawbreaker. To act otherwise is immoral and unconscionable. I do not know what moral codes you operate under, but a democratic polity must respect the rule of law, lest it descends into dictatorship.

  51. @Nathan Wartooth
    @JohnnyWalker123

    He gets to throw his voters a bone while staying true to his corporate overlords.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    He’s still better than Cruz/Rubio/Bush, who want to increase legal immigration. Cruz actually wants 400K-500K H1b visas handed out per year.

    The value in Santorum is not that he’s going to win and cut immigration. The value is that he’ll introduce legal immigration into the debates and there will be a vigorous public discussion of the issue. Then hopefully, our side can win the debate and legal immigration restrictionism can gain steam. So no matter who wins in 2016, we’ll have less immigration.

    It’s a hope, but a realistic hope. Why do you think that opinion journalists like David Brooks and Jennifer Rubin are so nervous about talk of cutting immigration? They understand that if this debate takes off, their side (Jews and oligarchs) could lose.

  52. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out .

  53. “Juju says:

    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work “legal Americans” don’t necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here “illegally.””

    Yes, they are here illegally. I don’t want them here. Not to pick fruits, not to make beds, not for anything.

    “All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke!”

    Then puke. And choke on it.

    “At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why?”

    Why? Because it was a bad deal for actual Americans. At least the Republican rank-and-file managed to scare those GOP immigration-stooges into not voting their masters (i.e., donors) will.

    “Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it’s not is tantamount to claiming all this “birther” garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a “legitimate” concern. I think not.

    I agree. You do not think.

    “The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.”

    McCain is a corrupt, senile, blood-thirsty old fool.

    “To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.”

    Racism, Schmacism. I don’t care about your charges of “racism”. Besides, people have a right to be racist if they so choose. The american public has every right to exclude anyone they want for any reason, or no reason, at all.

  54. Lot says:
    @tsotha
    @Whiskey


    Pretty much. The courts can’t force Obama to enforce the law.
     
    Oh yes they can. It's call a "Writ of Mandamus", otherwise known as a "writ of do your damn job". It's not that the courts don't have the power. It's that they don't want to exercise that power.

    Replies: @Lot

    More specifically, the last resort for someone who disobeys a federal judge is being jailed indefinitely without bail for civil contempt. The most common contexts for this are people who refuse to testify when they have no right to refuse, and people who refuse to pay judgments.

    This is known as coercive rather than punitive incarceration and you get no jury or trial, rather you are jailed until you end your contempt. You also cannot be pardoned since you are not being jailed for a crime.

  55. @Forbes
    NYTimes: Democratic operatives with editorial pages, where the political ends justify the policy means.

    "How dare you suggest that 'prosecutorial discretion' doesn't include 4-5 million 'no deportation' affidavits."

    Plan C? I must've missed Plan B.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong

    Plan A: GOP caves to amnesty

    Plan B: Go around the GOP to pass amnesty by executive action

    Plan C: DOJ coup???

  56. @Jefferson
    The American middle class is more worried about massive 3rd world immigration than the American underclass. You do not see opposition from the American underclass about unlimited immigration from countries with extremely different religions and cultures from that of The U.S.

    I think it is because the American underclass does not believe their welfare gravy train ride will ever end. They believe massive immigration will not bankrupt the country and result in them losing their government handouts.

    Steve should include the American underclass in his definition of the American fringe, because the American underclass have the same voting pattern as Nonwhites, the super wealthy elite, and Homosexuals.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @JohnnyWalker123, @Rob McX

    Likelihood of voting is correlated with level of education and income. The underclass must be cajoled into voting, that’s why the Democrats are trying to make it easy as possible. It’s also why they use fraud, if the underclass voted at the same rates as the overclass, fraud would not be needed.

  57. @Jefferson
    The American middle class is more worried about massive 3rd world immigration than the American underclass. You do not see opposition from the American underclass about unlimited immigration from countries with extremely different religions and cultures from that of The U.S.

    I think it is because the American underclass does not believe their welfare gravy train ride will ever end. They believe massive immigration will not bankrupt the country and result in them losing their government handouts.

    Steve should include the American underclass in his definition of the American fringe, because the American underclass have the same voting pattern as Nonwhites, the super wealthy elite, and Homosexuals.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @JohnnyWalker123, @Rob McX

    Underclass blacks tend to have their rage directed against the police, whites, and fellow underclass blacks. For a lot of them, day to day conflict often involves other gangs in their neighborhoods.

    Underclass and non-underclass whites have been cowed into submission over the last few decades. The 1980s was probably the last time when underclass whites would’ve felt comfortable asserting themselves on a large scale. Also, lots of them have fallen into drug addiction and alcoholism, so they’re often too out of it to do much. Another issue is that there’s a MUCH weaker sense of white American identity than they used to have, so it’s hard to organize when you’re so atomized.

    Back in the 80s, there were places like the all-white Southie projects, full of thuggish and racially antagonistic lower-class white delinquents. In 2015, there seem to many blacks who fall in that category, but close to zero whites. If there’s ever a racial revolution from the underclass, it’ll be blacks going after whites.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Underclass blacks tend to have their rage directed against the police, whites, and fellow underclass blacks. For a lot of them, day to day conflict often involves other gangs in their neighborhoods.
     
    It's not just underclass blacks, it's all of them. Coates, Pitts, Smiley are all anti-white 24/7 and are not underclass. It's just that these upper class ones write better, that's all.
    , @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "Underclass and non-underclass whites have been cowed into submission over the last few decades."

    Last year a bunch of middle class White people in Murrieta, California were protesting on the streets over the U.S government for busing in large swaths of Illegal Immigrants into their city. They succeeded in not letting the U.S government use their city as a dumping ground for the Central American/Mexican Illegal Immigrant underclass.

    You would never see that type of political activism from underclass Whites. You only see it from middle class Whites.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  58. @Jefferson
    The American middle class is more worried about massive 3rd world immigration than the American underclass. You do not see opposition from the American underclass about unlimited immigration from countries with extremely different religions and cultures from that of The U.S.

    I think it is because the American underclass does not believe their welfare gravy train ride will ever end. They believe massive immigration will not bankrupt the country and result in them losing their government handouts.

    Steve should include the American underclass in his definition of the American fringe, because the American underclass have the same voting pattern as Nonwhites, the super wealthy elite, and Homosexuals.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @JohnnyWalker123, @Rob McX

    The black underclass is indifferent to immigration, as it is to most other political issues. Its representatives – Jackson, Sharpton, et al – support large-scale non-white immigration and amnesty, not because it’s good for blacks (quite the contrary, of course), but because the people who give these representatives their power will not stand for anything else. Given the way blacks riot at perceived injustices, they would be a force to be reckoned with if they were incited to protest at the effects of immigration on them, e.g. Hispanics taking over their neighbourhoods. Hence the importance of having docile black “leaders” who who are all on board with the project to replace the American founding stock.

  59. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    Underclass blacks tend to have their rage directed against the police, whites, and fellow underclass blacks. For a lot of them, day to day conflict often involves other gangs in their neighborhoods.

    Underclass and non-underclass whites have been cowed into submission over the last few decades. The 1980s was probably the last time when underclass whites would've felt comfortable asserting themselves on a large scale. Also, lots of them have fallen into drug addiction and alcoholism, so they're often too out of it to do much. Another issue is that there's a MUCH weaker sense of white American identity than they used to have, so it's hard to organize when you're so atomized.

    Back in the 80s, there were places like the all-white Southie projects, full of thuggish and racially antagonistic lower-class white delinquents. In 2015, there seem to many blacks who fall in that category, but close to zero whites. If there's ever a racial revolution from the underclass, it'll be blacks going after whites.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Jefferson

    Underclass blacks tend to have their rage directed against the police, whites, and fellow underclass blacks. For a lot of them, day to day conflict often involves other gangs in their neighborhoods.

    It’s not just underclass blacks, it’s all of them. Coates, Pitts, Smiley are all anti-white 24/7 and are not underclass. It’s just that these upper class ones write better, that’s all.

  60. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    Come on, man. As trolls go, you don’t even hold a candle to Enrique.

  61. gotta stop them deportations…it is lowering our Most Sacred And Holy GDP…..

  62. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    I think only three of my neighbors, out of forty homes, cut their own lawns. All of the landscape crews are white guys, and gals. The crew that replaced my roof and my neighbor’s, all white. My friend has a concrete company and his crews are all white, with some blacks. The driveway sealing crew, nasty work, all white. The largest poultry farm, eggs, in NY State is a few miles away…bad to be down wind from them. They plow and plant hundreds of acres of land. Wyoming county, not far from here, has more cows, dairy, than people. Nary a Hispanic farmhand in sight. Whites are doing jobs that “Americans don’t want to do” all around me. They must be racists.

  63. J.Ross says: • Website

    “The administration also needs to rein in rogue agents who haven’t gotten the message that they cannot continue to seize everybody they find.”

    This is really disturbing because of the border patrol agents complaining that they have been told to either just let everyone through or actually assist people in violating our laws. It is disturbing because of the use of the word “rogue,” which is coquettish in political journalism but a serious accusation in policing. It is baffling because surely a protected border would entail stopping every illegal you find in the same way that firefighters extinguish every flame they can find? It is pathetic because you can see how it is a bitter swipe-back after acknowledging a Defeat for The Side.
    Perhaps the most useful understanding of this sentence is in how it illustrates a fictitious ideological ecosystem in which one defeat can be softened by pre-staged phantoms.
    Here, the summary dissolution of our borders was defeated by the now-obvious fact that our Harvard Law graduate president is legally illiterate. But those in the know can shake their heads like a Wise Latina, what makes this worse is those Rogue Agents who, far from delivering invaders to Wolverine holding facilities where they will presumably learn how to wash dishes and be sexually abused by dishonest employers, are actually stopping illegals — as many as they can find. Similarly, if the President were to ram through some sort of policing reform, and it were successfully resisted by people made firm by the examples of diverse, Democrat-governed cities, those in the know can shake their Wise Latinas as though they were heads and nag, “and what makes that worse is that some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.”

  64. Nico says:

    It is however very telling (and highly encouraging!) that the most upvoted comments on the article are resolutely hostile to Obama’s immigration policy and to amnesty in general, and that even the “Times Picks” could not isolate enough pro-Third World comments to fill even half their quota.

    I’m just praying the other shoe drops as soon as possible.

  65. @David
    I just said this but Holy essentially means a thing set apart. The Editors of the NYT learned this in yeshiva. America cannot be a thing set apart because there is only one true God, the God of Israel.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anonymous, @sprfls

    The NYTimes Editorial Board aren’t the Elders of Zion — their identities are public. Not many Jews at all by my count (3, max 4). This percentage corresponds perfectly with how many Jews live in NYC.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/opinion/editorialboard.html

    Don’t blame another group just because YOU idiots threw your own country to the garbage, as did others in Western Europe. Is Sweden also controlled by the Jewish media? How about Holland? LOL!

    Man up and take some responsibility for your own political and social downfall.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @sprfls

    Representative democracy doesn't work with issues like this. it is hard for any individual to go against the MSM and the government when it is already bought and paid for.

    , @ben tillman
    @sprfls


    Don’t blame another group just because YOU idiots threw your own country to the garbage, as did others in Western Europe.
     
    What in the world are you talking about?

    Is Sweden also controlled by the Jewish media?
     
    I'm not sure how to respond, since your whole comment is made facetiously and in bad faith. But, yes, the Swedish mass communications media are largely Jewish-owned. The use of Sweden as an example to disprove the importance of Jewish influence has been debunked thoroughly and repeatedly.
  66. @Rob McX
    I suppose the best the NYT can hope for is that the illegals make plenty of phone calls to Mexico discussing their possible return.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Certainly what Carlos Slim is hoping for…

  67. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    Underclass blacks tend to have their rage directed against the police, whites, and fellow underclass blacks. For a lot of them, day to day conflict often involves other gangs in their neighborhoods.

    Underclass and non-underclass whites have been cowed into submission over the last few decades. The 1980s was probably the last time when underclass whites would've felt comfortable asserting themselves on a large scale. Also, lots of them have fallen into drug addiction and alcoholism, so they're often too out of it to do much. Another issue is that there's a MUCH weaker sense of white American identity than they used to have, so it's hard to organize when you're so atomized.

    Back in the 80s, there were places like the all-white Southie projects, full of thuggish and racially antagonistic lower-class white delinquents. In 2015, there seem to many blacks who fall in that category, but close to zero whites. If there's ever a racial revolution from the underclass, it'll be blacks going after whites.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Jefferson

    “Underclass and non-underclass whites have been cowed into submission over the last few decades.”

    Last year a bunch of middle class White people in Murrieta, California were protesting on the streets over the U.S government for busing in large swaths of Illegal Immigrants into their city. They succeeded in not letting the U.S government use their city as a dumping ground for the Central American/Mexican Illegal Immigrant underclass.

    You would never see that type of political activism from underclass Whites. You only see it from middle class Whites.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Jefferson

    You didn't mention the best part, where local Border Patrol agents were ready to throw down with the US Marshals and ICE SRT that were brought in to break up the crowds.

    If that would have happened, ir would have been Bundy Ranch on steroids.

  68. @sprfls
    @David

    The NYTimes Editorial Board aren't the Elders of Zion -- their identities are public. Not many Jews at all by my count (3, max 4). This percentage corresponds perfectly with how many Jews live in NYC.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/opinion/editorialboard.html

    Don't blame another group just because YOU idiots threw your own country to the garbage, as did others in Western Europe. Is Sweden also controlled by the Jewish media? How about Holland? LOL!

    Man up and take some responsibility for your own political and social downfall.

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @ben tillman

    Representative democracy doesn’t work with issues like this. it is hard for any individual to go against the MSM and the government when it is already bought and paid for.

  69. The black “leadership” is essentially composed of made men who work for the oligarchs/establishment. Witness Al Sharpton’s climb to the top. All it took was the burning down of a Jewish store to make him legit. And the next thing you know he’s breaking bread with big time establishment Lefties and given air time at opportunity.

  70. @Juju
    Apparently it is perfectly fine for all these illegal immigrants to pick our fruit and vegetables, mow our lawns, trim our hedges, take care of our children, make beds in hotels/motels plus a myriad of back breaking work "legal Americans" don't necessarily want to do, but granting them citizenship is out of the question. After all they are here "illegally."

    All this self righteousness the right wing exhibits makes me want to puke! At the heart of all this piousness is plain old racism disguised as legalism. When there was a deal on immigration in Congress the Republicans walked away from it. Why? Because it is a hot button issue they can use to their advantage in the 2016 presidential election. So much for being statesmen!

    Some of you may object to me saying that opposition to a path to citizenship for these 11 million immigrants is racist at its core. Saying that it's not is tantamount to claiming all this "birther" garbage about President Obama was nothing more than a "legitimate" concern. I think not. It only played to the Republican base and their racist ideology. The Republican leadership in Congress didn't even try to put a stop to it-that should tell you something about the morals of the Republican Party. The only Republican that acted decently was Senator McCain.

    To sum up, while it is perfectly ok for illegals to stay and work here, apparently it is not ok that they become citizens. You can hide behind legalism all you want but at the core it is racism.

    Replies: @Kudzu Bob, @Anonymous, @WGG, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Anonymous, @ben tillman, @jill, @Beach, @Anonym, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @donut, @Nico, @Buffalo Joe, @JSM

    racist

    Horrors! Vapors! I…I…I… I’ll clutch my pearls, I will! You called me a…a…a… name!
    How…how could you?

    Actually, on second thought, if it’ll get me what I want, that the imminvaders from Mexico and points south leave, I’ll let you call me racist all day. Deal?

  71. Juju says:

    May 31, 2015 at 1:03 am GMT • 300 Words

    Your rant is demolished by G**gling for Mexican immigration policy. Does Mexico do ANY of the things for foreigners that Mexicans (and their patrons) demand for Mexicans in America?

    No.

    Do Mexicans in Mexico take any of your kind of crap?

    No.

    Reciprocity: kryptonite for liberals.

  72. You would never see that type of political activism from underclass Whites. You only see it from middle class Whites.

    Sounds like a great reason to move those uppity middle class whites into the lower class.

    It’s this sort of thing that make me completely okay with racism and against multi-culturalism. After you go multi-cult, you never hear the end of it. You can’t do enough to satisfy all the imposing people. It just constant whining. Any time you decide you have interests to defend, it will be racist! racist! racist! forever and ever.

    Indeed. It’s amazing to me that racism isn’t more popular on just this sort of utilitarian ground.

    I now believe that everyone is racist, though sometimes it gets expressed in warped ways. I am sure you are a racist. Your statement is completely racist. You are an anti-native-american racist. You should be ashamed to have so much racist hate within you!

    Bingo. I am assured of my ability to convict ANYONE on charges of racism, as long as I get to question them for a few minutes. Ever major ideological camp in the west is so riddled with racism (liberal democrats and “anti-racists” very much included) that it’s impossible to not be a racist.

    So ICE deported only 15,301 people for being in the country illegally.

    And one has to wonder what was really going on in those 15K cases. Pissed off the wrong guy with relatives in gov’t, refused to play ball with authorities, etc.

    Don’t blame another group just because YOU idiots threw your own country to the garbage, as did others in Western Europe. Is Sweden also controlled by the Jewish media? How about Holland? LOL!

    Sweden and Holland have smaller Jewish populations (by %) than America, and much smaller demographic problems than America.

    Europe has smaller Jewish populations (by %) than America, and much smaller demographic problems than America. And much more viable right-wing, anti-immigration movements.

    Food for thought.

  73. @sprfls
    @David

    The NYTimes Editorial Board aren't the Elders of Zion -- their identities are public. Not many Jews at all by my count (3, max 4). This percentage corresponds perfectly with how many Jews live in NYC.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/opinion/editorialboard.html

    Don't blame another group just because YOU idiots threw your own country to the garbage, as did others in Western Europe. Is Sweden also controlled by the Jewish media? How about Holland? LOL!

    Man up and take some responsibility for your own political and social downfall.

    Replies: @MarkinLA, @ben tillman

    Don’t blame another group just because YOU idiots threw your own country to the garbage, as did others in Western Europe.

    What in the world are you talking about?

    Is Sweden also controlled by the Jewish media?

    I’m not sure how to respond, since your whole comment is made facetiously and in bad faith. But, yes, the Swedish mass communications media are largely Jewish-owned. The use of Sweden as an example to disprove the importance of Jewish influence has been debunked thoroughly and repeatedly.

  74. SF says:

    So at a recent city council meeting, this guy with a Ukranian accent makes some rambling remarks about water policy (a big issue, as the town is installing water meters, and a bottling plant is planning to start up just outside of town) He is on the fringe, wearing an aluminum foil hat to protect against radiation. The mayor politely asks him his name for the record. He says, well, I don’t have a name, my passport has expired. . . . Next day I see the police chief, and say, it looks like Nazar might not be here legally. Are you going to check into it. He says nah, not our problem.

  75. @Jefferson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "Underclass and non-underclass whites have been cowed into submission over the last few decades."

    Last year a bunch of middle class White people in Murrieta, California were protesting on the streets over the U.S government for busing in large swaths of Illegal Immigrants into their city. They succeeded in not letting the U.S government use their city as a dumping ground for the Central American/Mexican Illegal Immigrant underclass.

    You would never see that type of political activism from underclass Whites. You only see it from middle class Whites.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    You didn’t mention the best part, where local Border Patrol agents were ready to throw down with the US Marshals and ICE SRT that were brought in to break up the crowds.

    If that would have happened, ir would have been Bundy Ranch on steroids.

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