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From the New York Times news section:

Departures of Police Officers Accelerated During a Year of Protests

Retirements nationwide were up by 45 percent and resignations by 18 percent in the 12-month period ending in April.

By Neil MacFarquhar
Published June 11, 2021

… A survey of about 200 police departments indicates that retirements were up by 45 percent and resignations by 18 percent in the period between April 2020 and April 2021, when compared with the preceding 12 months. The percentage of officers who left tended to be larger for departments in big or medium-size cities

I.e., blacker cities.

, according to the Police Executive Research Forum

… Last year’s departures came against the backdrop of protests that erupted nationwide when George Floyd was murdered by a Minneapolis police officer, along with the police killings of Breonna Taylor in Louisville, Ky., and Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta. The aggressive tactics some officers used against protesters often compounded the vitriol against the police.

In contrast, the looting and arson by protesters didn’t happen. Who are you going to believe: Tucker Carlson and hundreds of hours of video?

The future of policing was called into question, with demands to defund departments or to assign some of their tasks to civilian agencies. The coronavirus pandemic also took a toll, with cities slashing budgets and some officers deciding that risking their health through potential exposure to the virus was endangering their families. The pandemic also brought a surge in the most violent crimes.

But the surge in the most violent crimes had nothing to do with the the media declaring the racial reckoning.

The New York Times used the phrase “racial reckoning” eight times between 1851 and May 24, 2020, but 98 times since. On the other hand, it could have used it even more because the NYT substitutes the term “pandemic” as the cause of any bad things that the racial reckoning caused. That’s because the racial reckoning is a Good Thing and therefore cannot have caused any Bad Things.

… Cities where demonstrations were robust last year experienced substantial departures from their police forces.

In New York, 2,600 officers retired in 2020, according to police statistics, after 1,509 retirements the year before. In Portland, Ore., 69 officers resigned and 75 retired from April 2020 to April 2021, versus 27 and 14 the previous year. In Seattle, resignations increased to 123 from 34 and retirements to 96 from 43.

Seattle ended up with 150 fewer patrol officers than expected, and for months, only slightly more than half of the highest-priority 911 calls have drawn responses within the targeted time of seven minutes, according to police statistics.

Many cities are also finding it harder to attract recruits, with the number of new hires in Portland falling to 30 from 69, and in Seattle to 44 from 119.

After skipping any police training last year for budgetary reasons, St. Paul, Minn., received 178 applications this year, down about half from the 366 received in 2016, said Sgt. Natalie Davis, a police spokeswoman.

While the city is authorized to have 620 police officers, it has about 580 at the moment. That means the department has moved officers onto patrol duties from specialized units like those that track drugs, gangs and guns, Sergeant Davis said.

You know, tracking drugs, gangs, and guns sounds pretty … RACIST. Gun control laws put a lot of black men in prison, so they’ve got to go, or maybe just make it illegal for whites to have long guns, while the government could provide every black youth with a handgun on his 14th birthday, along with posters of his favorite rappers holding pistols sideways to keep the death toll down.

There is widespread consensus that another reason retention has suffered is that police officers are asked to do too much. In addition to confronting crime, they also deal with mental health problems, addiction and homelessness, as well as the occasional lost dog.

All these different tasks that police are asked to do really cuts down on their donut shop time.

 
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  1. Good. Burn the cities down. Force people to live those places. Cities since the bronze age and earlier have acted as a sort of population leech for the nations. They take in the brightest and prettiest and run them into a sterile life of careerism and materialism.

    High density urban living is deeply contradictory to mankind’s evolutionary history of living in the countryside and saps a person of his vitality over time. It crushed fertility. Look at any East Asian metropolis, Seoul, Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong, they all have TFRs below 1. They have more dogs than babies. Its hardly much better in western megapolises like NY or London.

    They sap the vitality out of the countryside and fail to reproduce themselves. In the past they were an unavoidable evil because of the concentration of labor and capital they facilliated. In modern times, the internet, telerobotics and automation can greatly ammeriolate the need for large dense cities.

    Let people live in the countryside or rural areas where they have more of a semblance of historical living. Instead of wasting money on rent and fast food, they could instead have kids, live with their kin and build communities.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @Caspar von Everec

    Is there enough available arable land for all 7.5 billion humans to live, work, and play in rural, close-knit communities with their own houses/yards?

    Replies: @frankie p

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @Caspar von Everec

    Back here on Planet Earth, we have over 8 billion people and are headed for 12 before the end of the century.

    Replies: @frankie p

  2. On topic: the McCloskeys, the St Louis couple whose historical restored mansion was attacked by rioters, have been disarmed by a lunatic judge who wants them to die.

    • Thanks: BB753
    • Replies: @anon
    @J.Ross

    They pled to misdemeanors, this enables Mark McCloskey to keep his run for the Senate in 2022 going.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-plead-guilty-to-misdemeanors-after-brandishing-guns-outside-st-louis-mansion/

    The McCloskey's requested their guns be donated to an organization that could use them for fundraising. Denied by the judge, who insisted the guns be surrendered and destroyed.

    McCloskey's should be able to legally go buy some replacements if they wish.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @J.Ross, @James J O'Meara

    , @Muggles
    @J.Ross

    As with the other reply, they pled guilty to a couple of misdemeanors and a small fine ($2K).

    Yes, the firearms are gone but are replaceable. Of course none of the armed rioters had any judicial punishment, but nowadays, it's not what you do but who your friends are.

    Seattle/Portland antifa/BLM Chaz/Chad versus pro Trump DC rally on Jan. 6.

    One was an "insurrection" and the other events were "mostly peaceful protests."

    Meanwhile, as we read iSteve's blog here, the feds are interrogating his former golf buddies to determine exactly how many times he failed to give himself a penalty stroke. Some new form of Systemic Racism on his part.

    News at 11.

  3. I don’t see why any white person with options would seek work as a police officer in any community where he or she might confront a black on a more than occasional basis. I predict an increase in gated communities with private security for those who can afford it, and gang-style retributive violence security for poorer communities. In the short run, blacks are clearly on top, even if it is costing them a lot of self-inflicted casualties. In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Diversity Heretic


    I don’t see why any white person with options would seek work as a police officer in any community where he or she might confront a black on a more than occasional basis
     
    Well, you made the point. White proles in suburban America don't have too many options to find a job that pays a decent salary and awards excellent benefits. All of these "retiring" cops are in their 40s and 50s. They can "retire" because they have put in their twenty, are fully vested in their pensions and will receive healthcare for they and their wife until the day they die. Matchless opportunity for the white prole.
    , @Anonymous
    @Diversity Heretic


    In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.
     
    Highly doubtful. I sometimes wonder how Unz commenters are able to formulate such inaccurate views of the world. Asians are more inhibited than whites, and Hispanic Americans have actually tended to take in blacks, particularly in Florida and California's high desert region.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    , @KenH
    @Diversity Heretic


    Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.
     
    Latins and Asians won't curl up in a ball and suck their thumb if they are called racists. But in this bizarro world they could just as easily blame black savagery on white supremacy.
    , @Anon
    @Diversity Heretic

    Yes I think that if this country has any hope at all, it will involve 1) the decline of whites, who have shown themselves to be weak and ineffective and easy to manipulate by POC grifters, and 2) the rise and dominance of hispanics and asians, who lack whites' pathetic guilt complex, and who will vigorously put misbehaving blacks in their place.

    Replies: @Moses

  4. Maybe bringing back institutions for the mentally ill and keeping them in them will make cops lives easier? Or maybe we could have “Juneteenth Zones” where the police can’t enter, but the “citizens” can’t exit.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Redneck farmer

    Can’t we just bring back Africa then none of us have to pay for black dysfunction anymore?

    , @Known Fact
    @Redneck farmer

    NYC mayoral candidate Yang is under fire -- for saying people have a right to walk down the street without getting bashed in the head by some homeless person. This is now considered "insensitive." Kiss your cities goodbye, police or no police

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @Redneck farmer

    I like all of these great ideas but it's important to acknowledge that the society is moving in the opposite direction at warp speed.

  5. I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    • Agree: Sean, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Alarmist


    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.
     
    -
    Nowadays most cops make very good money and get very generous (and often tax-free) pensions. And a lot of them retire in their early 40’s and go on to double-dip. Most of them never have to fire their gun on the job.

    More than 30 police officers in Boston were paid more than $300,000 in 2020, according to a report from the Boston Globe.

    In addition to the 30 officers who made more than $300,000, 509 officers in the city earned at least $200,000, according to the report.

    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/more-than-30-boston-police-officers-netted-north-of-300k-in-2020-report/2368433/
     

    I’m sure there were more officers making over $300k than officers making under $100k.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    , @Thomas
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.
     
    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the "dismount," the last word that's the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    So it's not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can't afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @The Alarmist, @Muggles, @Moses, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Alden
    @The Alarmist

    Don’t forget affirmative action means hiring from the lowest IQ, most criminal and psychopathic demographic in America.

    , @John Johnson
    @The Alarmist

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    I don't see why anyone would join the police in current conditions.

    It's only high paying in cities like Chicago and NYC where you have to commute a few hours if you want a family. In Chicago the police will live sometimes 3-4 hours away and stay in a hotel to work 3 12s. Medical workers will do the same. This is the result of trying to look the other way on Black pathologies and what they do to neighborhoods (what the media calls White flight). In my profession I was offered a massive pay increase to work Chicago and they were using some old resume with references that didn't work.

    Maybe we should go ahead and built Robocop. Things are going to get worse and I don't see anyone lining up to police these areas.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    , @Ragno
    @The Alarmist

    We could still have a core concentration of men and women as solid and steadfast as in the 60s, or the 50s...... or the 1890s, for that matter.

    What we wouldn't have countenanced then, that we shrug our shoulders impotently at now, is turning our kids over to Professor Rabinowitz and the weaklings he educated a generation ago who will influence them to throw away any crucifixes in their vicinity - like around their necks - and follow in his Gramscian footsteps, adoringly, and return home to us as, uhhh..... finished products.

    Most of the neo-Bolsheviks training/perverting our kids to hate themselves, their forebears, their country and their God are no longer named things like Rabinowitz. They were all exposed to one, however; long enough and early enough for the imprinting to take, providing the good Professor and his tribesmen with cover the way those horrible Muslim terrorists hide their weapons caches among children and old people. You 'll think twice about clearing out the Augean stables when you see your own kids down there....because even caked in filth, they're your kids and they'll always be. And so we hesitate, and thus we lose. By way of deception these people wage war, you see.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    , @donut
    @The Alarmist

    I can't find the link now but this is a "no shitter" . About ten years or more back a Negro discharged from the army robbed a convenience store in Texas and murdered the clerk before returning to Baltimore where he saw that the BPD was hiring . The genius went down to apply for a position and one question asked if the applicant had committed any crimes . He actually confessed to the crime in Texas on the application. The BPD contacted the town in Texas and sure enough they had an unsolved murder that fit the description of the crime described by the aspiring police officer . He was extradited to Texas tried and convicted .
    In another example of a criminal mastermind from the ghetto about 20 years ago an aspiring bank robber walked into Baltimore city bank with a note demanding money . The note was written on a deposit slip from a different bank the teller God bless her pointed this out to the would be robber and told him he would have to go down the street to that bank . He actually walked out of the bank and down to the other bank where the police were waiting for him .
    I read both those stories in the B-more papers .
    To be fair White boys can be just as stupid I read this story about thirty years ago . Two White guys went to rob a payroll office in the one of the Carolinas N or S . There were too many people in the office when they arrived and so to kill the time until the office emptied out they filled out a couple of job applications while they waited . They then robbed the pay roll office and fled the scene . The police were able to capture them pretty quick tho because they left the two applications behind with their real names and addresses on them .

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Alarmist


    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club.
     
    BASED.

    This is exactly why we need a, "Fing Cool," button in the comment system.
    , @Old Brown Fool
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them
     
    Men cross oceans, climb treacherous peaks, land on the moon, go to the bottom of the oceans, face the charge of marauders, all risking their lives only when they know their society is backing them in their actions, and, should anything happen to them, their family will be taken care of.

    Withdraw that support, men will not venture out to defend their neighbours.
  6. The NYPD has already given up enforcing the law around Washington Square Park. The center of NYU’s campus is on the perimeter of this park, and the real estate surrounding it had been some of the most valuable in the city. For example, Alec Baldwin’s apartment is about two blocks away from the park (although I’m pretty sure he’s essentially taken the instigator’s advice and is staying at his home in the Hamptons indefinitely).

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/12/washington-square-park-instigator-says-neighbors-should-move/

    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    @Technite78

    For the record , I occasionally bump into Alec Baldwin at the bakery in Wainscott...quick pleasant conversations.... I have older cousins who were coached by his father on the football team....I am told that his father was a really great guy....When I see Alec in the bakery I have a hard time reconciling the Memory of his Father Alec with the guy I see in the Wainscott Bakery knowing full well that the son had to take it up the arse from from the repellant Harvey Wienstien-Tom Cruise next in line....

  7. Police officer/Sheriff Deputy offer a middle class income to working class men without college degrees so they should be a sought after position in Joe Biden’s America. That they aren’t says a lot about where America is heading under Biden.

  8. If the individual cops are finally acting on the facts before them, this is very, very good news. The cops (individually may be decent and well meaning) are in service of tyrants, guarding the crooked establishment, protecting the thieving class and their minions. It won’t be until all the good men STOP protecting that class that we can make any progress on destroying them.

    It ids a damned shame about the negroes, but if they would stop perpetrating crimes on each other in such grotesque numbers, it wouldn’t be a big deal. That isn’t likely to happen, so batten down, decent negroes. Storms a comin’.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Brian Reilly


    Storms a comin’
     
    Been comin' all my life and will still be when I'm gone.

    I'd strongly advise anyone counting on it getting here to revise your plans accordingly.

    https://twitter.com/vandrewattycpa/status/1405879597669961733?s=20
  9. So I guess the big cities will just replace the cops by deputizing the Bloods and the Crips? What could go wrong?

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Hannah Katz

    I think there's a long-game strategy to federalize local policing.

    , @JimDandy
    @Hannah Katz

    Well, I'll be.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDq3t_LLcZM

  10. NYT prose is inspiring.
    I’ll be visiting a few banks in the coming days. Be makin’ some robust withdrawals.

    • Agree: Cortes
    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Mr. Peabody

    Visiting in person? The only purpose of that could be to withdraw money in the form of paper currency. Perhaps reconsider.

  11. White cops with seniority are retiring en masse. They’d rather move to Florida and collect their pensions than spend a few more years on the job and run the risk of getting get Chauvinized.

    But that’s part of the plan. They will be replaced by young, woke minorities and women who will ride herd on white America in the future.

    • Replies: @Rob Lee
    @Dr. X

    Minority cops will only be able to ride herd on those whites stupid enough to stay in the big cities. The suburbs and rural environs will still overwhelmingly be policed by whites, who will retain the support of their more conservative denizens, and who will not put up with urbans rolling out to the countryside. Start looking for some property with clear shooting lanes and a preserved backstop (which ironically enough the nutty greens will keep verdant and undeveloped for you) and you’ll be fine. When I lived in middle PA the local cops had zero trouble shuffling the occasional, wayward hood rat who’d strayed too far from Pittsburgh or Philly out of their mortal coil with no repercussions.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    , @BenKenobi
    @Dr. X

    You assume that the writ of the feral US Govt will run.

    Things that cannot go on forever, won’t.

  12. Candace Owens has this figured out. Defund the police/back riots is INTENTIONAL destruction. Black communities are just collateral damage.

    The Left’s goal is federal police, doing away with all local police forces. [HR1 is to federalize local election control.] Lori Lightfoot cries, “Local cities can’t control this. They just can’t.” As she adopts policies that insure more crime.

    The end point is federal policing. Which is on the way to the greater goal: the end of states, Washington control of everything.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Gamecock

    But you know Candace Owens is just that token black person that “color blind” conservatives love to point to.

    , @Bill
    @Gamecock


    Candace Owens
     
    is a necon shill of modest ability, attractive to Boomers desperate to prove they aren't racist.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Gamecock

    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Gamecock

    Absolutely. It's the final goal of Abraham Lincoln, railroad lawyer, and you know that this could only mean that he was a made man in The Borg of his time. Gotta dissolve the Republic, while hypocritically claiming to do the opposite. Srreamlining, don't you know.

    And, unsurprisingly, using blacks as the instrument to "morally justify" the use of naked, centralizing force; he didn't seem to like them all that much, but he found them an convenient rationale for his self-appointed task as autocrat.

  13. Talking of a representative police force, is there evidence to show that they’re fatter on average than the general population?

    What’s the average age that American cops retire at? Does 20 years service equate to a liveable pension?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Henry's Cat

    Does 20 years service equate to a liveable pension?

    The clever thing is to get two pensions, for example, put in 20 years with the army and then 20 years on the police force. Alternatively, get a private sector job after doing your 20 years with the police. A dilemma police officers face is that, while they would qualify for a higher pension if they work additional years beyond 20, they risk losing their pension entirely if they get into a Chauvin-type situation. Police work and politics being what they are, there's no way to protect themselves from that.

  14. Here’s bit of good news to brighten up your day, gents.

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/juror-who-fell-for-killer-during-2012-trial-fatally-shot-in-nyc/

    Is that “poetic justice” or what?…lol

    • Agree: Farenheit
    • Thanks: northeast, bruce county
    • LOL: Spect3r
  15. One of the defining features of our political moment and the media’s reporting is a steadfast commitment to not understanding human behavior and how people respond to incentives.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Arclight

    They understand those things better than the representatives we elect do. They studied them specifically and were carefully taught by evil men.

    , @Jack D
    @Arclight

    Upton Sinclair once said that it is difficult to get a person to understand something when his/her/its salary depends on his/her/their not understanding it. (I've updated his language a bit so as to not trigger anyone).

    Replies: @Arclight

    , @Erik L
    @Arclight

    that has been a defining characteristic of everyone I know on the left ever

    , @gent
    @Arclight

    They absolutely do understand it. They just approve.

    , @Bill
    @Arclight

    Agree with gent. The right really has to turn loose of this bizarre idea that lefties are basically good, well-intentioned people who are just a little confused about how the world works.

    They are not like that. They want to hurt me and the people I care about.

  16. @Arclight
    One of the defining features of our political moment and the media's reporting is a steadfast commitment to not understanding human behavior and how people respond to incentives.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D, @Erik L, @gent, @Bill

    They understand those things better than the representatives we elect do. They studied them specifically and were carefully taught by evil men.

  17. Anonymous[882] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.


    Nowadays most cops make very good money and get very generous (and often tax-free) pensions. And a lot of them retire in their early 40’s and go on to double-dip. Most of them never have to fire their gun on the job.

    More than 30 police officers in Boston were paid more than $300,000 in 2020, according to a report from the Boston Globe.

    In addition to the 30 officers who made more than $300,000, 509 officers in the city earned at least $200,000, according to the report.

    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/more-than-30-boston-police-officers-netted-north-of-300k-in-2020-report/2368433/

    I’m sure there were more officers making over $300k than officers making under $100k.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Anonymous

    Cops can retire young. They'll be a little less young when many kids, born today, will start paying taxes. (15+ % of that revenue will get shoveled into PERS, e.g. for the benefit of those same ex-cops.) It'll be an unjust fifteen years or so til those kids, by then fully adult, will no longer have to pay for cop services they never received.

    It's outrageous how government "worker" (i.e. executive branch) retirees -- many (like FFs) with windfall pensions -- or their domestic partners, end up in the legislature, and even rise to leadership roles. That's an obvious violation of separation of powers, and a particularly offensive one at that: They spend most of their political capital working to increase salaries and especially pension benefits for their public union brethren. When they're finally term-limited out, there's always another ex-gov waiting in the wings to take their place.

    Meanwhile, more and more of the budget gets skimmed off to bailout PERS, leaving little money to pay for the cop services that taxpayers expect.

  18. • Replies: @Anon
    @Desiderius

    Before the Reformation, your average prosperous citizen felt he needed to live in a castle to protect himself against his own monarch. After the Reformation, landowners managed to gang up and tame the monarch, so mobs of proles and taxes became greater concerns.

    , @Supply and Demand
    @Desiderius

    Interesting that the part about the reformation wasn’t highlighted.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Peter D. Bredon

  19. Listen you VDare racists: the NYT so pwns you! It published an article showing how wrong people are to think Chicago has the highest murder rate in the country. Well it doesn’t. It’s seventh highest. So shut up already!

    • Replies: @Spect3r
    @Dan Smith

    Which city do they say is in the first place?
    Just curious, i dont care about your argument :)

  20. @Redneck farmer
    Maybe bringing back institutions for the mentally ill and keeping them in them will make cops lives easier? Or maybe we could have "Juneteenth Zones" where the police can't enter, but the "citizens" can't exit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Known Fact, @Hangnail Hans

    Can’t we just bring back Africa then none of us have to pay for black dysfunction anymore?

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
  21. Given that police forces aren’t being defunded and multiple openings exist it seems as though no thought is being given to who would actually want to be a police officer at this point. It just might be that a significant percentage of people who want to join are the last people that you’d want to be police officers. Some of these people, in turn, will end up making it through the process as a lack of alternative candidates will force the issue.

  22. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/scjohnson90/status/1405790370370367490?s=20

    Replies: @Anon, @Supply and Demand

    Before the Reformation, your average prosperous citizen felt he needed to live in a castle to protect himself against his own monarch. After the Reformation, landowners managed to gang up and tame the monarch, so mobs of proles and taxes became greater concerns.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
  23. And the supposedly center-right NY Post has endorsed a former squeegee man, who became an anti-White NYC cop as mayor. NYC is in big trouble after this election. Too much virtue signaling from the top echelon will now bring the city down. Shame, I made a decent living there and one of my kids is doing okay there, too. I guess they forgot the trouble they got into when they virtue signaled Dinkins in. Now that the city is under 50% Pale, it’s probably over. I had hopes the ever increasing Hispanic population might slow the decline, but it looks like they’ve decided to follow the blacks into poverty. Oh well.

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Rich

    Are NYC Hispanics PR, Dominican, and such? Mulatto Hispanics are hopefully worse than Mexicans. I say hopefully because there are way more Mexicans. It would be a shame if we lost the West Coast and SW to people as bad and sad as Dominicans.

    Replies: @Rich

    , @Hibernian
    @Rich

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Adams_(politician)

    He apparently had a minor juvenile record. You're not going to get a latter day Barry Goldwater in NYC.

    Replies: @Rich

  24. I think in the Bugman “mind” such as it is, racist white cops* departing the force is seen as a net positive even when accounting for the massive year-over-year increase in violent crime and especially murder. Of course, as you show, they’re not willing to account for the increase in crime and will take ridiculous measures to deny or obscure it – they think it’s a necessary noble lie because if the white proles found out that supine policing leads to increased crime they might vote the wrong way.

    The Bugmen have an adolescent view of police – they’re the guys who hassled them when they were loitering at the mall or who made them feel small and weak at some point. To them, the police are avatars of white male authority, and probably proxies for their fathers with whom they had less than functional relationships.

    *they’re all racist, and even the non-white cops are “white adjacent.”

  25. @Arclight
    One of the defining features of our political moment and the media's reporting is a steadfast commitment to not understanding human behavior and how people respond to incentives.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D, @Erik L, @gent, @Bill

    Upton Sinclair once said that it is difficult to get a person to understand something when his/her/its salary depends on his/her/their not understanding it. (I’ve updated his language a bit so as to not trigger anyone).

    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Jack D

    Definitely true for politicians - after all, you don't get elected by telling people things they don't want to hear.

    For journalists, it's galling to see them regularly laud themselves as an essential part of democracy when most have abandoned any pretext of neutral, fact-based reporting in favor of weaving narratives. that only suit one side of the political spectrum. I am under no illusions about the political bias of the media having generally been to the left for a couple of generations at least, but I am also old enough to remember when you could pick up the NYT or WaPo without every story burying the pertinent details at the very end that runs against the assertions of the lede.

  26. Anonymous[165] • Disclaimer says:

    If “diversity” and mass immigration is such a strength, why don’t nonwhite countries embrace it?

    Are the Vietnamese, for example, so stupid they can’t see the obvious benefits of “enriching” themselves with a flood of “New Vietnamese” from Africa and Pakistan? Are nonwhite peoples just so selfless that they allow white people to hoard this “vibrant” “gift” for themselves?

    And why do these humane and charitable NGOs generously direct all this “diversity” to white people, when nonwhite peoples need the “benefits” so much more?

    Maybe the goal of global one-way “diversity” is really something else? And “anti-racism” is really just anti-whiteism?

    • Agree: Rob, Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @jon
    @Anonymous


    If “diversity” and mass immigration is such a strength, why don’t nonwhite countries embrace it?
     
    Some do:

    Zimbabwe Begs White Farmers To Return As Nation Teeters On Brink Of ‘Manmade Starvation’
     
    https://newspunch.com/zimbabwe-begs-white-farmers-to-return-as-nation-teeters-on-brink-of-manmade-starvation/

    DIVERSITY IS AFRICA'S STRENGTH!

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

  27. There is widespread consensus that another reason retention has suffered is that police officers are asked to do too much. In addition to confronting crime, they also deal with mental health problems, addiction and homelessness, as well as the occasional lost dog.

    For people who purport to love science, these folks appear to have zero understanding of the scientific method or basic statistical reasoning. Part of the job of the police has ALWAYS been to deal with lost dogs and so on. Retirements have gone way up recently – has there been a change in canine behavior such that they are now MORE burdened than before by the search for Fluffy?

    Is there ANYTHING that has changed since say May 25th of last year? Are they really that stupid or are they rubbing our noses in the dog doo doo in order to humiliate us with their control over the narrative?

    • Thanks: Alden
  28. This is a feature not a bug: more promotions for preferred groups.

  29. anon[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    On topic: the McCloskeys, the St Louis couple whose historical restored mansion was attacked by rioters, have been disarmed by a lunatic judge who wants them to die.

    Replies: @anon, @Muggles

    They pled to misdemeanors, this enables Mark McCloskey to keep his run for the Senate in 2022 going.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-plead-guilty-to-misdemeanors-after-brandishing-guns-outside-st-louis-mansion/

    The McCloskey’s requested their guns be donated to an organization that could use them for fundraising. Denied by the judge, who insisted the guns be surrendered and destroyed.

    McCloskey’s should be able to legally go buy some replacements if they wish.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @anon

    Yeah, I think it's just those particular guns. Although not sure what would happen now on a background check.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @J.Ross
    @anon

    That judge is as much a lunatic who should decorate a tree as the idiot in Detroit who insisted that female genital mutilation was Constitutionally protected until the right phrasing could be composed. I'm sure the law talker reasoning is "I have a law degree, and can do whatever I want," and that judge's reasoning is that the guns themselves are both magic and morally informed, but the standard I in my puling ignorance expect is
    A, a person can be trusted to handle a firearm (the default until proven otherwise) or
    B, the person has demonstrated grounds to believe they cannot safely handle a firearm, in which case all their arms are taken and new purchase is prohibited. There should be a high standard of evidence here and self-defense can never constitute these grounds.
    Taking one gun but permitting another strikes me as capricious and illogical, in fact, I'm pretty sure it wasn't what the judge thought he was doing. Witchburning is closer. The guns are reminders that someone white dared to not take a knee, so they must be erased from the book of inanimate life.
    And the people who broke down the gate and invaded the property and issued death threats (including with guns of their own) -- yeah, I thought so. Save the thugs, execute the law school graduates.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @anon

    "Denied by the judge, who insisted the guns be surrendered and destroyed."

    Why destroyed? That seems like voodoo reasoning, on a par with digging up Stonewall Jackson's corpse. I suppose "gun violence" is a spooky entity that must be dealt with in such a way, as in a Lovecraft tale.

  30. anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting to see this article today. By coincidence just a few days ago the local Gannett rag had a top of the fold story regarding the local police – recruitment has gotten more difficult and fewer people are applying for The Job. This in Flyover, USA where the only BLM protests were small and mainly consisted of some college students, a few high school students, and aging Boomer “concerned citizens”. There was no “reckoning” out here last year. But it’s still difficult for the cop shop to remain staffed.

    It’s almost as if deliberately demoralizing cops in one city leads to morale changes in other places. Who could have seen that coming?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @anon

    It's easier to get hired as a cop in flyover country. I was talking to a local cop earlier this year who said he hoped to get on with the feds after a few years.

  31. @Arclight
    One of the defining features of our political moment and the media's reporting is a steadfast commitment to not understanding human behavior and how people respond to incentives.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D, @Erik L, @gent, @Bill

    that has been a defining characteristic of everyone I know on the left ever

  32. @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the “dismount,” the last word that’s the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.

    So it’s not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Thomas


    uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee
     
    How many different ways can you say "black" without actually using the word?

    Replies: @Thomas, @TWS, @Anonymous

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Thomas


    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.
     
    Eventually, they will change it again, so that the only requirement is that you don't actually show up to your interview high.
    , @The Alarmist
    @Thomas

    I guess they figure the higher pay will dissuade corruption. We didn’t have the swimming pools, flashy cars, and boats that some of the other cops in town had. Including overtime and detail work, your average cop’s pay of the ‘60s & ‘70s adjusted for inflation would barely make it into six figures.

    All levels of government used the “war for talent” of the ‘00s to overcome the “job security” pay gap and stuff their pockets.

    Replies: @res

    , @Muggles
    @Thomas


    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    From the NYT excerpt.

    Yes, by all means. There are literally tons of unemployed and otherwise unemployable social work grads, psych majors and Black Studies graduates who for some horrible reason can't find good paying employment. Sociologists are begging for jobs.

    So there we have it. Problem solved. Get those guys, gals, gays, trans and other oddwads out there on the streets with clipboards and sympathy. They can listen empathically and direct miscreants to the closest welfare office. If anyone knows how to deal with hard core thugs and crazies, it's a recent Brown sociology grad. Even Women's Studies!

    In fact, every current Old School cop should have a new Woke sociologist intern working at their side. Preferably in front. Much useful learning will occur, I just know it! You gotta believe!

    Replies: @Gamecock

    , @Moses
    @Thomas


    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    It occurs to me that the people pushing all this "defund the police" nonsense know that it will push out many veteran officers, and especially White veteran officers.

    I think that may be the point.

    The police are the only major institution remaining that the Left has yet to infiltrate and subvert.

    After Whites are gone they get to build up the police with non-Whites they control who have been whipped into an anti-White frenzy by 50 years of anti-White manufactured media spectacles like the St George canonization.

    Same thing is happening in the military.

    The Left is not stupid. They know exactly what they are doing.

    The objective of Power is Power. They're getting it.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Thomas


    So it’s not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.
     
    Washington DC actually hired guys with felony records in the late 1980s under the reign of Marion "bitch set me up" Barry.
  33. Wonder how many cops are leaving the force in cities with George Soros financed DAs. I can’t even imagine how Philadelphia even has one cop left with Larry Krasner as DA.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @R.C.
    @Old and Grumpy

    Good point. It seems that a statistical analysis could be relatively easily done. It would be valuable.
    And then, the NYT would put in on the front page! (Sarcasm.)
    R.C.

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Old and Grumpy

    Mike from Breaking Bad would have a way to deal with that prick.

  34. Progressives should be applauding the decline in police across our cities and the decline in the number of White police officers. They wanted to defund the police and they are seeing the results of this agenda. We should see an increase in crime and murders with a reduction in policing. The decline in our urban police forces will help curtail gentrification and make cities more affordable for Blacks while making the white suburbs prohibitively expensive for working class Americans.

  35. @Thomas
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.
     
    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the "dismount," the last word that's the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    So it's not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can't afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @The Alarmist, @Muggles, @Moses, @Jim Don Bob

    uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee

    How many different ways can you say “black” without actually using the word?

    • Agree: Gary in Gramercy
    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Jack D


    How many different ways can you say “black” without actually using the word?
     
    I've said before that getting "police who look like and come from the communities they serve" is much more of an uphill battle than people realize. Finding blacks who grew up in the 'hood and who made it to young adulthood with a clean criminal record, clean drug history, clean financial and driving histories, who can pass the medical and psychological screening, who are physically fit and have at least as much intellectual ability to understand as much law as a cop needs to understand, write a usable police report and testify cogently in court is not easy. Blacks who grew up poor but who still managed have that much going for them are fought over by colleges offering scholarships, internship and apprenticeship programs, and the like. More now in the last year than ever before. A candidate who would give up those other kinds of opportunities to be a cop, especially now, would be very, very unusual.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @TWS, @Arclight, @G. Poulin

    , @TWS
    @Jack D

    Don't forget, many cities were already allowing felons to get the racial diversity they wanted.

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Boy oh boy, so much sweet racism on this site!

    Are black people more dangerous than white people? Within a century of Hitler and Stalin that sounds like a pretty brave assertion to have confidence in.

    So maybe, just maybe, all us liberals have a point that income inequality breeds violence?

    21st century society is a social construct, just as any other society is. (Different hunter gatherer societies too, but that's an interesting albiet less relevant discussion than comparing the differing social constructs of say, 1940 Russia and Germany.)

    In America certain traits and backgrounds tend to be rewarded with lots and lots of cash and other goodies while those with different traits granted by nature and nurture tend to get punished quite harshly. And then they get punished for getting punished.

    The officially racist response is simple enough. We want what's good for whites. And a larger percentage of whites are likely to win in our current society than in one based upon physical strength. So, hooray! We made our preferred society. One where Aryan-based people tend to win. Sure, the fact that the majority of blacks lose out in this system means greater dangers for us and a greater tax burden but we racists are working on that. Imprison as many as possible and decrease their welfare and medical benefits at any opportune moment.

    That's a coherent argument.

    Those of you who fancy yourselves non-racist however have a bit of 'splainin to do. Not that race is the be all and end all. Lots of Out Of Africa people are punished by this system and lots of Bantus thrive. The question about income inequality applies there as well, but people on this site seem quite uninterested in that subject so we'll stick with race, lest expanding the conversation to white trash serves us nothing but a heaping bowl of red herring.

    So, if the bell curve shows clearly that distinction between different racial groups when it comes to who gets to live a long comfortable life and who gets to live in relative poverty and eventually chains, can you ceny that those who support this system are racist? Or at the least, not terribly concerned for those who by nature and nurture are condemned to live at the bottom of the American totem pole.

    If Han people are naturally more capable of foregoing that marshmallow so that on their deathbed they will have five, while the Bantu mind, evolved under different circumstances, is less capable of seeing beyond that gooey white sugariness doesn't that imply that racial inequality is built into the system? "Systemic", perhaps?

    Under these circumstances why should society's losers not stand up and fight? Does this explain to you why so many of the BLM-Antifa rioters are not black but actually poor whites whose nature and nurture condemned them to a bad life in America? They remain underrepresented of course because it's obviously easier to fight street battles at night in an easy to spot color war.

    The liberal view (my view) is that while we can not entirely equalize the life outcomes for every last citizen, we can get closer to it by reducing the wealth difference within the populace.

    Not to trigger any undercover snowflakes here but how about this: No one can inherit, in cash or assets, more than 3 million dollars.

    I would prefer the excess go to the better run charities (perhaps chosen by the pre-deceased), or if that's too complicated than to the national coffers, and if this too befuddles our tax attorneys than we can just burn the cash https://youtu.be/JnX-D4kkPOQ
    and melt the rest into an ever growing golden calf to be worshipped by those so inclined.

    Peace in our country has thus far been attained through euphemistic "pacification". Arrest every 2nd man at some point in his life, and 1 out of every 25 American men for a real prison sentence and walla. Peace be upon us.

    If that works for you, good and well. Embrace the understanding that you have clear racial preferences (if the word "racist" frightens you) and enjoy the occasional fireworks as the underclass fights back - whether piecemeal or en masse.

    As an American rather than an Economyer however I believe that we ought to make a few tweaks to such a system.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Eternally Antifascist

  36. @Redneck farmer
    Maybe bringing back institutions for the mentally ill and keeping them in them will make cops lives easier? Or maybe we could have "Juneteenth Zones" where the police can't enter, but the "citizens" can't exit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Known Fact, @Hangnail Hans

    NYC mayoral candidate Yang is under fire — for saying people have a right to walk down the street without getting bashed in the head by some homeless person. This is now considered “insensitive.” Kiss your cities goodbye, police or no police

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Known Fact


    a right to walk down the street without getting bashed in the head by some homeless person

     

    At this point, I’m not sure anyone still choosing to live in NYC should have the right to walk down the street without getting bashed in the head by some homeless person.

    It’s a future, not a bug.

    Now you’re in New York
    These streets will make you feel brand new
    Lights will inspaiya yoo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TC02VaB1Rw

  37. @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    Don’t forget affirmative action means hiring from the lowest IQ, most criminal and psychopathic demographic in America.

  38. And the boys of the NYPD choir are singing Take this job and shove it.

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
    @Ray P

    LOL. LOVE that song.

    So now instead of hiring Irish cops, they'll go for something like the Ton Ton Macouts? Not sure about the spelling on that.

    Today being Fathers' Day, Egg Day (Winlock, WA), AND Juneteenth (threefer), we had a parade here. It was marvelous. Not a face diaper in sight and hordes of people from about five surrounding towns. White, with maybe three or four brownish people, plus the taco truck (I wish he would move here) and the guy selling tamales. I saw ONE black guy and overheard him say he was from the next town over.

    Some kid (little girl) sang a terribly off-key rendition of the national anthem, but EVERYONE took their caps off, hands over their hearts, and applauded like mad when she finished (probably BECAUSE she finished--she was that bad). No one took a knee or even thought about it.

    Parade was raining candy and little kids were running everywhere. It made me tear up, because whilst I am aware of the evils this country has done, it was all so heartfelt and sweet, and the sense of community was so palpable. THIS was what America was supposed to be or should be.

    I am so glad I moved here. I mean, there's NOTHING here. A few stores (Small), maybe 10 all told, four bars, five restaurants, two gas stations (minority owned--one Chinese, the other Sikh), and a thrift store/restaurant/food bank combo. That's it. Not even a stop light.

    The Republicans made a HUGE entrance with something like five vehicles, buckets of candy, etc. Everyone clapped and howled approval, whilst the Democrats didn't even show up. I did not see ONE person who didn't applaud. Weird cuz everybody seems so friendly and liberalish, and this IS Western Washington, but it is SOLID MAGA country.

    YET, I've heard people here tell me all this CRT and race riot bullshit has them about ready to join the Klan. Things are going to explode.

    Nobody I know voted for Biden or Gov Inslee. The ones who didn't like Trump just sat it out.

    Me, I voted solid Republican, not cuz I like Republicans--I have been a Democrat my entire life, but I was just so disgusted with all the lies and what the Democrats have done over the last five years.

    I am so thankful to not be in a city of any sort or anywhere NEAR one.

  39. Gun control laws put a lot of black men in prison, so they’ve got to go, or maybe just make it illegal for whites to have long guns, while the government could provide every black youth with a handgun on his 14th birthday, along with posters of his favorite rappers holding pistols sideways to keep the death toll down.

    Guns for the black market.

  40. @Jack D
    @Arclight

    Upton Sinclair once said that it is difficult to get a person to understand something when his/her/its salary depends on his/her/their not understanding it. (I've updated his language a bit so as to not trigger anyone).

    Replies: @Arclight

    Definitely true for politicians – after all, you don’t get elected by telling people things they don’t want to hear.

    For journalists, it’s galling to see them regularly laud themselves as an essential part of democracy when most have abandoned any pretext of neutral, fact-based reporting in favor of weaving narratives. that only suit one side of the political spectrum. I am under no illusions about the political bias of the media having generally been to the left for a couple of generations at least, but I am also old enough to remember when you could pick up the NYT or WaPo without every story burying the pertinent details at the very end that runs against the assertions of the lede.

  41. Let’s see ,on one hand you can spend your golden years in the bosom of your family or the other where you spend it in prison ……which to choose …….tough one.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @tyrone


    Let’s see ,on one hand you can spend your golden years in the bosom of your family or the other where you spend it in prison ……which to choose …….tough one.
     
    It is with my family.
  42. @Jack D
    @Thomas


    uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee
     
    How many different ways can you say "black" without actually using the word?

    Replies: @Thomas, @TWS, @Anonymous

    How many different ways can you say “black” without actually using the word?

    I’ve said before that getting “police who look like and come from the communities they serve” is much more of an uphill battle than people realize. Finding blacks who grew up in the ‘hood and who made it to young adulthood with a clean criminal record, clean drug history, clean financial and driving histories, who can pass the medical and psychological screening, who are physically fit and have at least as much intellectual ability to understand as much law as a cop needs to understand, write a usable police report and testify cogently in court is not easy. Blacks who grew up poor but who still managed have that much going for them are fought over by colleges offering scholarships, internship and apprenticeship programs, and the like. More now in the last year than ever before. A candidate who would give up those other kinds of opportunities to be a cop, especially now, would be very, very unusual.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Thomas

    Corporate America fights over the talented tenth in the same way wealthy sports teams fight over limited talent available for certain positions.

    I watched as an inexperienced tenther was flown out from a Black city and given a management position over experienced White workers.

    Initially I thought his linkedin belonged to someone else because it didn't match the position at all and was filled with suspicious claims about his own company.

    He seemed like an ok guy but was clearly in over his head. He was there a few months and then in the middle of busy workday he went to his car and drove away.

    Anyways there is already a limited supply of tenthers in corporate America due to artificial demand and that is going to affect something like law enforcement where they would be taking a pay cut and putting their lives on the line. So these pleas to hire more Black police completely misunderstand the situation. Liberals imagine White police forces keeping out Blacks when the opposite is true. Every city has diversity recruitment incentives.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    , @TWS
    @Thomas

    It's not impossible to find men from minority communities that meet the standards. But any who do have far more opportunities presented to them on a platter.

    Replies: @Thomas

    , @Arclight
    @Thomas

    I remember maybe 15 years ago DC's attempts to have more cops who were from 'the community' resulted in the discovery that something like 20% of the police force had a criminal record. In my neighborhood pre-gentrification, the old timers would tell me that one upside to having whites move in was that we would actually call the police - people who had lived there in the 80s and 90s would not because in those days the odds were pretty good the cops would tell the perps who had dropped a dime, and that fear still was there.

    Interestingly for me, on the couple of occasions in which I happened to talk to black cops who had been called to the block, it was made clear they absolutely detested the lower class blacks that were the cause of their frequent visits. I know the media likes to report on 'police violence' and suspects getting treated roughly, but they never try to quantify the race of the cops most likely to mete it out, and I think I know why.

    Replies: @Corn, @Peter D. Bredon

    , @G. Poulin
    @Thomas

    Which means that the standards will be drastically lowered, in order to make the quotas. Police in the future will "look like the community" all right ---they'll be complete thugs with a rap sheet a mile long.

  43. Cities where demonstrations were robust

    “Robust demonstrations” is almost as good as “mostly peaceful protests.”

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @anon
    @res

    "Robust demonstrations" might be a good name for a coffee blend in a hipster java shop. Maybe I'll suggest it to one of the local ones.

  44. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:

    On-topic:

    Do any blacks live in Chicago anymore? The population of blacks seems to have exploded in Iowa the last six months. A shit ton of African immigrants as well. Daily shootings in every part of the QCA metro area.

    • Replies: @John Up North
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, Chicago is roughly 1/3 black. It seems to me that they're filtering out into the Northside of Chicago and out to the suburbs from their longtime strongholds on the West an South Sides of Chicago. We're all being enriched.

    , @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    After the butcher-scamsters of Postville, Iowa lost their cartel helots, they couldn't let it be a white town again, so Somalis were shipped in.

  45. @Thomas
    @Jack D


    How many different ways can you say “black” without actually using the word?
     
    I've said before that getting "police who look like and come from the communities they serve" is much more of an uphill battle than people realize. Finding blacks who grew up in the 'hood and who made it to young adulthood with a clean criminal record, clean drug history, clean financial and driving histories, who can pass the medical and psychological screening, who are physically fit and have at least as much intellectual ability to understand as much law as a cop needs to understand, write a usable police report and testify cogently in court is not easy. Blacks who grew up poor but who still managed have that much going for them are fought over by colleges offering scholarships, internship and apprenticeship programs, and the like. More now in the last year than ever before. A candidate who would give up those other kinds of opportunities to be a cop, especially now, would be very, very unusual.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @TWS, @Arclight, @G. Poulin

    Corporate America fights over the talented tenth in the same way wealthy sports teams fight over limited talent available for certain positions.

    I watched as an inexperienced tenther was flown out from a Black city and given a management position over experienced White workers.

    Initially I thought his linkedin belonged to someone else because it didn’t match the position at all and was filled with suspicious claims about his own company.

    He seemed like an ok guy but was clearly in over his head. He was there a few months and then in the middle of busy workday he went to his car and drove away.

    Anyways there is already a limited supply of tenthers in corporate America due to artificial demand and that is going to affect something like law enforcement where they would be taking a pay cut and putting their lives on the line. So these pleas to hire more Black police completely misunderstand the situation. Liberals imagine White police forces keeping out Blacks when the opposite is true. Every city has diversity recruitment incentives.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @John Johnson


    Corporate America fights over the talented tenth in the same way wealthy sports teams fight over limited talent available for certain positions.

    I watched as an inexperienced tenther was flown out from a Black city and given a management position over experienced White workers.
     
    That's wrong. Time for some lawsuits and a program of lawsuit after lawsuit until balance is achieved. Of course, the only ways to finance a program such as this are either grants from Daddy Warbucks (not likely) or funding from an organization dedicated to restoring balance in America, but the latter would be infiltrated by FBI instigators investigators and placed on terror watch lists. Because balance equals terror.
  46. • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks for posting! This was very informative. I like how the guest (James Craig?) said that the crime and murder rates in cities such as Chicago “are not due to a gun problem, but due to a criminal problem.” That nails it!!! Criminals: a) don’t give a damn about the law; and b) are willing to kill with whatever is handy. Journalists should be more willing to aggressively challenge politicians on the idea that “illegal guns” and buyback programs are the solution to sky-high murder rates. A true street criminal would have no interest in selling his gun to a buyback program (unless he’s about to use that money to upgrade to a better grade of pistol. Lol!).

  47. Last year’s departures came against the backdrop of protests

    It’s just a “backdrop” y0u know. Kind of like how gunfire just “erupts.”

    when George Floyd was murdered by a Minneapolis police officer

    He died of a massive drug overdose compounded by pre-existing ill health.

    The pandemic also brought a surge in the most violent crimes

    .

    Why would a pandemic which forces people to stay home “bring” a surge in violent crimes?
    Nonsensical.

    These “journalists” are the most mendacious gang of liars in the world. Even North Koreans get a Ministry of Information which is at least kinda, sorta pro-Korean. These creeps just want people, preferably white people, killed and maimed.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Patrick in SC

    "Why would a pandemic which forces people to stay home “bring” a surge in violent crimes?
    Nonsensical."

    I yield to no one in my contempt for journos, but I can see that works. People forced to spend all their time with spouse and kids instead of at the office or plant; making less money or losing their job entirely, etc. Same reasons murders and riots surge in hot weather.

  48. Retirement after 20 years, and a pension for life——not bad!

  49. @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    I don’t see why anyone would join the police in current conditions.

    It’s only high paying in cities like Chicago and NYC where you have to commute a few hours if you want a family. In Chicago the police will live sometimes 3-4 hours away and stay in a hotel to work 3 12s. Medical workers will do the same. This is the result of trying to look the other way on Black pathologies and what they do to neighborhoods (what the media calls White flight). In my profession I was offered a massive pay increase to work Chicago and they were using some old resume with references that didn’t work.

    Maybe we should go ahead and built Robocop. Things are going to get worse and I don’t see anyone lining up to police these areas.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @John Johnson

    "Maybe we should go ahead and built Robocop."

    Like going back to the moon or colonizing Mars, we could have built Robocop but spent the money uplifting the bleks instead. (h/t Paul Kersey)

  50. @res

    Cities where demonstrations were robust
     
    "Robust demonstrations" is almost as good as "mostly peaceful protests."

    Replies: @anon

    “Robust demonstrations” might be a good name for a coffee blend in a hipster java shop. Maybe I’ll suggest it to one of the local ones.

  51. @Jack D
    @Thomas


    uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee
     
    How many different ways can you say "black" without actually using the word?

    Replies: @Thomas, @TWS, @Anonymous

    Don’t forget, many cities were already allowing felons to get the racial diversity they wanted.

  52. @Thomas
    @Jack D


    How many different ways can you say “black” without actually using the word?
     
    I've said before that getting "police who look like and come from the communities they serve" is much more of an uphill battle than people realize. Finding blacks who grew up in the 'hood and who made it to young adulthood with a clean criminal record, clean drug history, clean financial and driving histories, who can pass the medical and psychological screening, who are physically fit and have at least as much intellectual ability to understand as much law as a cop needs to understand, write a usable police report and testify cogently in court is not easy. Blacks who grew up poor but who still managed have that much going for them are fought over by colleges offering scholarships, internship and apprenticeship programs, and the like. More now in the last year than ever before. A candidate who would give up those other kinds of opportunities to be a cop, especially now, would be very, very unusual.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @TWS, @Arclight, @G. Poulin

    It’s not impossible to find men from minority communities that meet the standards. But any who do have far more opportunities presented to them on a platter.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @TWS

    That was my point.

  53. “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

    – Someone

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    @Carol

    "Pacifists believe they have the right not to kill, but others always die in defense of that right."

    Falcone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvWX1drAfhg&list=FLHI4V8bOqocLaAwTk1_PvAg&index=1

    , @Anonymous
    @Carol

    Well yes Carol, we are aware of the motto of your sex.

    It isn't much to be proud of though.

    , @Bill
    @Carol

    Don't you hate that? Kipling almost said it. Orwell almost said it (consciously echoing Kipling almost saying it). It's like the famous not-quite-quote by Chesterton: "A man who won’t believe in God will believe in anything." He almost said this more than once but not quite.

  54. @Thomas
    @Jack D


    How many different ways can you say “black” without actually using the word?
     
    I've said before that getting "police who look like and come from the communities they serve" is much more of an uphill battle than people realize. Finding blacks who grew up in the 'hood and who made it to young adulthood with a clean criminal record, clean drug history, clean financial and driving histories, who can pass the medical and psychological screening, who are physically fit and have at least as much intellectual ability to understand as much law as a cop needs to understand, write a usable police report and testify cogently in court is not easy. Blacks who grew up poor but who still managed have that much going for them are fought over by colleges offering scholarships, internship and apprenticeship programs, and the like. More now in the last year than ever before. A candidate who would give up those other kinds of opportunities to be a cop, especially now, would be very, very unusual.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @TWS, @Arclight, @G. Poulin

    I remember maybe 15 years ago DC’s attempts to have more cops who were from ‘the community’ resulted in the discovery that something like 20% of the police force had a criminal record. In my neighborhood pre-gentrification, the old timers would tell me that one upside to having whites move in was that we would actually call the police – people who had lived there in the 80s and 90s would not because in those days the odds were pretty good the cops would tell the perps who had dropped a dime, and that fear still was there.

    Interestingly for me, on the couple of occasions in which I happened to talk to black cops who had been called to the block, it was made clear they absolutely detested the lower class blacks that were the cause of their frequent visits. I know the media likes to report on ‘police violence’ and suspects getting treated roughly, but they never try to quantify the race of the cops most likely to mete it out, and I think I know why.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Arclight


    I know the media likes to report on ‘police violence’ and suspects getting treated roughly, but they never try to quantify the race of the cops most likely to mete it out
     
    Back in the 00s there was a sketch comedy show on MTV or VH1 with a segment called Things Black People Fear. One thing the black comics said black people fear: black cops.

    White cops, they explained, are often restrained in dealing with blacks. They’re afraid of a career damaging lawsuit, complaint etc. Black cops don’t turn to Jello if someone yells racist, so the black comics explained they’ll often beat your ass faster than a white cop.
    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Arclight

    "Systematic racism" is the epicycle that accounts for that; the black cop per se serves the system of White Supremacy. In the old days it was "Uncle Tom" (see A Soldier's Story) but that was too individualistic and sporadic.

    "Hiring minorities" is so 1980s and "liberal". Wokesters know that makes no difference; only abolishing the police as such will do the job.

  55. @Thomas
    @Jack D


    How many different ways can you say “black” without actually using the word?
     
    I've said before that getting "police who look like and come from the communities they serve" is much more of an uphill battle than people realize. Finding blacks who grew up in the 'hood and who made it to young adulthood with a clean criminal record, clean drug history, clean financial and driving histories, who can pass the medical and psychological screening, who are physically fit and have at least as much intellectual ability to understand as much law as a cop needs to understand, write a usable police report and testify cogently in court is not easy. Blacks who grew up poor but who still managed have that much going for them are fought over by colleges offering scholarships, internship and apprenticeship programs, and the like. More now in the last year than ever before. A candidate who would give up those other kinds of opportunities to be a cop, especially now, would be very, very unusual.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @TWS, @Arclight, @G. Poulin

    Which means that the standards will be drastically lowered, in order to make the quotas. Police in the future will “look like the community” all right —they’ll be complete thugs with a rap sheet a mile long.

  56. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Fully one-third of this year’s high school graduates at the Indian tribe I am affiliated with joined the armed forces. In fact, every student with a “B” average or higher enlisted. There were no waivers, no affirmative action pass-throughs. Every student who joined was more qualified than 75% of the nation’s 18-24 year-olds.
    One thing for sure: 90 percent, maybe 99 percent, of these kids will never return to the rez except from time to time to visit relatives. They will disappear into the wider world, out-marry and have children and grandchildren who will just be generic Americans. They are an example of those in crummy situations who have any get-up-and-go getting up and going. It may be good for the country in a broad sense, but it’s very bad news for the tribes and explains a lot of the dysfunction on the rez.

    • Thanks: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    @Anonymous

    If the best of the tribe's youth is departing via the armed forces, I think you ought to ask what the tribe has to offer them. Why shouldn't they out-marry and become "generic" Americans? They apparently have less of an attachment to the tribe, and without nostalgia how can the tribe compete?
    Respectfully, "How Ya Gonna Keep 'em Down on the Farm (After They've Seen Paree)?"

  57. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/scjohnson90/status/1405790370370367490?s=20

    Replies: @Anon, @Supply and Demand

    Interesting that the part about the reformation wasn’t highlighted.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Supply and Demand

    He’s more carrot than stick.

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Supply and Demand

    Because that's where the trouble started? Says the man who likely would be an illiterate peasant hoeing rutabagas rather than typing away on a PC. Do you, like Richard Weaver, hate shoes too?

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

  58. @Thomas
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.
     
    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the "dismount," the last word that's the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    So it's not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can't afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @The Alarmist, @Muggles, @Moses, @Jim Don Bob

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Eventually, they will change it again, so that the only requirement is that you don’t actually show up to your interview high.

  59. @Arclight
    One of the defining features of our political moment and the media's reporting is a steadfast commitment to not understanding human behavior and how people respond to incentives.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D, @Erik L, @gent, @Bill

    They absolutely do understand it. They just approve.

  60. New York Times article from June, 1945:

    Deaths among men nationwide were up as were severe injuries in the 12-month period ending in April.

    …………………………………………

    The percentage of those who died or had severe injuries tended to be among young, military-aged men.

    ………………………………………….

    Last year’s deaths came against the backdrop of the ongoing World War.

    • LOL: J.Ross
  61. @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    We could still have a core concentration of men and women as solid and steadfast as in the 60s, or the 50s…… or the 1890s, for that matter.

    What we wouldn’t have countenanced then, that we shrug our shoulders impotently at now, is turning our kids over to Professor Rabinowitz and the weaklings he educated a generation ago who will influence them to throw away any crucifixes in their vicinity – like around their necks – and follow in his Gramscian footsteps, adoringly, and return home to us as, uhhh….. finished products.

    Most of the neo-Bolsheviks training/perverting our kids to hate themselves, their forebears, their country and their God are no longer named things like Rabinowitz. They were all exposed to one, however; long enough and early enough for the imprinting to take, providing the good Professor and his tribesmen with cover the way those horrible Muslim terrorists hide their weapons caches among children and old people. You ‘ll think twice about clearing out the Augean stables when you see your own kids down there….because even caked in filth, they’re your kids and they’ll always be. And so we hesitate, and thus we lose. By way of deception these people wage war, you see.

    • Agree: JerseyJeffersonian
    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Ragno

    "You ‘ll think twice about clearing out the Augean stables when you see your own kids down there….because even caked in filth, they’re your kids and they’ll always be. And so we hesitate, and thus we lose. "

    Calm down, Col. Kurtz. Your methods have become unsound.

  62. Looks like I am right again. I said years ago that de Blasio would turn NYC into Detroit, and looks like I was right.

    NYC is filled with blacks and Nuyoricans. These people have sky high crime rates and in order to keep high earners on Wall Street the crime has to be suppressed with fairly tough stop and frisk policies that target blacks and other high offending groups. That’s just reality. Of course black people don’t like it — even the law abiding figure their relatives should have the right to rob and beat people.

    So shootouts at Times Square will be commonplace. Broadway is a dead thing walking — even middle class White women won’t come if it means a shooting or beating. They love George Floyd from a DISTANCE. Not up close.

    NYC can’t recover. There is no reason for it to exist other than a stinking, poverty stricken urban hellhole from a John Carpenter movie. Wealth can and will move, its mobile, and Miami Beach looks good in January, now they can hole up in Martha’s Vineyard or in the Adirondacks. All Wall Street needs is a good data connection and some servers wired up to the exchanges for flash trading by program; the big shots can be anywhere in the world now. NYC can’t be a tourist place, tourists don’t like getting shot or beaten. And no one can turn around policing in NYC — that’s a feature of the permanent Regency that installed Biden. No black anywhere for anything can ever be arrested, ever. Period. All blacks have divine right of KANGZ to do what they please, particularly to Whites. That’s the law, as handed down by the Supremes and interpreted by 100,000 bureaucrats in the Federal Government.

    And as NYC goes, so goes LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, Austin, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Milwaukee, and every city in the US of any particular size. The only reason for them to exist is to provide fake ballots on Election day, and a gathering place for the street army of homeless, anti-fa weirdos, and black criminals that make up the core of Democrats and indeed, Democracy itself. Democracy cannot exist without a black street criminal keeping it real by shooting into a crowd or stabbing some White person to death. That’s the core of Democracy right there. I’m not being sarcastic, that really is what Democracy is when you get down to it.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    @Whiskey

    I think you’re being a little dramatic and overly pessimistic here my friend. “NYC can’t recover“??? Give me a break! I would say that New York was in even worse shape in the 60s and 70s in terms of crime. As we all know now, Giuliani introduced a law and order and “broken windows“ policing style which tremendously turned the city around. Sooner or later, it’s only a matter of time before the people of New York will again develop a taste for law and order policing. This will be nothing more than a cyclical development in the history of New York. After all, didn’t Santayana say that “people who forget the past are condemned to repeat it”???

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Whiskey

    And no one can turn around policing in NYC

    A former New York City police commissioner, I think it was Ray Kelly, was on Mark Simone's radio show month or so ago. He said it wouldn't be easy to turn around the situation in NYC at this point due to some of the procedures put into place by the ultra-left city council, as well as Governor Cuomo's no-cash-bail legislation which returns criminals to the streets as quickly as they're arrested.

  63. Gun control laws put a lot of black men in prison

    Uh, not really. Not in the gun-free paradise of NY anyway.

    This should be a bigger story. NYC is the nation’s poster child for tough gun laws, with mandatory prison sentences. And yet, the reality is that it’s a desk ticket, followed by a plea down to disorderly persons. That’s reality. So, liberals, spare me your bullshit about the NRA.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Bragadocious

    I wonder if he's being candid because De Blasio is a lame duck and the front runner to replace him is an ex-cop.

  64. Cops are also leaving ”urban” jobs to go elsewhere. The big story in Detroit right now is that newly trained recruits jump ship immediately:

    Detroit is tired of being used as a freebie training ground for other police departments.

    For years, city officials have complained Detroit’s police shortage is exacerbated by an exodus of recruits who receive free training through the city’s police academy only to leave for a suburban force upon graduation.

    Now, a bill in Lansing would allow cities throughout Michigan to claw back training money – about $18,000 in wages – from recruits who leave within five years.

    The poaching is so bad police from other departments have shown up at Detroit’s police academy graduation to recruit officers, said Detroit Police Commissioner Willie Bell.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Anon7

    I would say the city doing the poaching should have to repay Detroit for the training of the officer.

  65. @John Johnson
    @Thomas

    Corporate America fights over the talented tenth in the same way wealthy sports teams fight over limited talent available for certain positions.

    I watched as an inexperienced tenther was flown out from a Black city and given a management position over experienced White workers.

    Initially I thought his linkedin belonged to someone else because it didn't match the position at all and was filled with suspicious claims about his own company.

    He seemed like an ok guy but was clearly in over his head. He was there a few months and then in the middle of busy workday he went to his car and drove away.

    Anyways there is already a limited supply of tenthers in corporate America due to artificial demand and that is going to affect something like law enforcement where they would be taking a pay cut and putting their lives on the line. So these pleas to hire more Black police completely misunderstand the situation. Liberals imagine White police forces keeping out Blacks when the opposite is true. Every city has diversity recruitment incentives.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    Corporate America fights over the talented tenth in the same way wealthy sports teams fight over limited talent available for certain positions.

    I watched as an inexperienced tenther was flown out from a Black city and given a management position over experienced White workers.

    That’s wrong. Time for some lawsuits and a program of lawsuit after lawsuit until balance is achieved. Of course, the only ways to finance a program such as this are either grants from Daddy Warbucks (not likely) or funding from an organization dedicated to restoring balance in America, but the latter would be infiltrated by FBI instigators investigators and placed on terror watch lists. Because balance equals terror.

  66. @Thomas
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.
     
    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the "dismount," the last word that's the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    So it's not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can't afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @The Alarmist, @Muggles, @Moses, @Jim Don Bob

    I guess they figure the higher pay will dissuade corruption. We didn’t have the swimming pools, flashy cars, and boats that some of the other cops in town had. Including overtime and detail work, your average cop’s pay of the ‘60s & ‘70s adjusted for inflation would barely make it into six figures.

    All levels of government used the “war for talent” of the ‘00s to overcome the “job security” pay gap and stuff their pockets.

    • Replies: @res
    @The Alarmist


    All levels of government used the “war for talent” of the ‘00s to overcome the “job security” pay gap and stuff their pockets.
     
    Yes. This is something which I don't think has been discussed and/or covered in the media enough. Especially interesting was the transition from the classic mediocre pay/good benefits/security tradeoff of government work to good pay/good benefits/security present which is going to bankrupt state and local governments when the pension bills come due for those salary levels.
  67. @Technite78
    The NYPD has already given up enforcing the law around Washington Square Park. The center of NYU's campus is on the perimeter of this park, and the real estate surrounding it had been some of the most valuable in the city. For example, Alec Baldwin's apartment is about two blocks away from the park (although I'm pretty sure he's essentially taken the instigator's advice and is staying at his home in the Hamptons indefinitely).

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/12/washington-square-park-instigator-says-neighbors-should-move/

    Replies: @War for Blair Mountain

    For the record , I occasionally bump into Alec Baldwin at the bakery in Wainscott…quick pleasant conversations…. I have older cousins who were coached by his father on the football team….I am told that his father was a really great guy….When I see Alec in the bakery I have a hard time reconciling the Memory of his Father Alec with the guy I see in the Wainscott Bakery knowing full well that the son had to take it up the arse from from the repellant Harvey Wienstien-Tom Cruise next in line….

  68. Rob says:

    Are there any honest histories of Reconstruction? I would really like to know how black people acted with a government that was, at least a little, not trying to exploit or oppress them.

    If they behaved well, that means they might be able to self-govern. We let Indians tribes govern themselves with federal LE as a backstop. It does not work well, in that Native Americans do not have great outcomest., but I’m pretty sure they are better than blacks’.At the least, NA’s can see that they are somewhat responsible for their situations. Black people do not have anywhere to go where they are the government.

    Law Enforcement in the South did not have protecting and servicing blacks. The lawman was there to keep blacks from victimizing whites. As a white person, I can totally see the appeal. Probably would have voted for it, thinking black people would eat us if they could. But do they actually hate us?

    They hate the cops. Police have treated black people very badly, including a habit of telling criminals who called the cops. As a result, good people have no incentive to work with the police. Bad people start shooting at people they don’t like. Average people, because someone generally has the values and behaviors of his community, follow suit. If you could never call the cops, how long before your neighborhood fall apart? Probably a long time? I hear homeowner association-homeowner relationships can get very tense. What if you couldn’t use the courts to enforce contracts? Force might be your only option. Plus, n a suburb you can avoid people you don’t like.

    Government, and police especially, have no legitimate authority. They have power. They can come in and crack heads. They can bring more force than you and your buddies can, except in a riot. When the cops are around, black people do what they say, but not when they gone. Some cities have decided to fund themselves with fines. Ferguson was one of those. If every time you dealt with the cops, you got a few hundred dollar ticket, you’d like the cops a lot less.

    The big problem black people have is the cognitive gap. The impulsive thing is a problem. But the IQ gap means there is nothing worthwhile that black people can do in the economy. There is no draw to the middle class that immigrants experience, because black people can’t hack the work. Maybe this could be ameliorated by reducing immigrantion, but the underclass being both large and looking different will always be a problem.

    Separation is the only solution we have not tried that might be appealing to blacks and whites.. Separation is not segregation, where blacks were lesser people, subject to the polity but not a part of it. Separation is blacks living under black laws, with black cops, with black bosses, with black…is there any realistic economic activity for a black state?

    With separation as a goal, in year 20xx, worked towards gradually, maybe blacks would try to learn in school? They would not learn as much, but even dumb kids can learn something, Maybe they’d try to stay out of prison?

    What are possible solutions to race being real, and blacks averaging lower IQ?

    1) status quo – try to muddle through like it’s 2010 forever
    2) awokening – put blacks in positions they are not smart enough for. Pretend that they are competent. Turn the CEO or whatever into a figurehead position, and make some other title for the person making decisions
    3) de facto soft segregation – this is not quite status quo, though. AA would be gone, and blacks would sink or rise to their level. What to do with the ghettoes? I got Facing Reality today. This is basically Murray’s path, right
    4) paternalism – lots of whites sacrifice income and families to try to help blacks
    5) separation
    6)?

    What are societies options, assuming we Face Reality? What are our options if we ignore reality, but reality keeps happening?

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Rob

    "Separation is the only solution we have not tried that might be appealing to blacks and whites.. Separation is not segregation, where blacks were lesser people, subject to the polity but not a part of it. Separation is blacks living under black laws, with black cops, with black bosses, with black…is there any realistic economic activity for a black state?"

    Good point. Of course, there is a whole continent full of black states, but of course they're all shitholes, and only the dumbest wokester thinks that's "because colonialism"; in fact, colonialism accounts for whatever 1st world infrastructure and industry they inherited.

    The problem here is that a black state situated not in Africa but along side or in the middle of the USA would be constantly irritated by the comparison and constantly tempted to try to "avenge" the inequality. It would be Mexico on steroids as far as illegals go.

    Segregation was actually de facto separation; remember all the hullabaloo about "separate but equal" schools? The Supreme Court's ridiculous mantra, "separate but equal is inherently unequal" puts it in a nutshell. They were rejection separation in the name of the new absolute, Equality.

    Under segregation, blacks lived in de facto black areas -- call them "ghettos" if you must" -- as everyone knew. If you wanted to hear jazz, you went up to Harlem, or 57th street, etc. You did indeed have black cops, doctors, lawyers, etc. because blacks couldn't work/live in White areas and vice versa; but also no White wanted to live/work with blacks. Remember "It's just Chinatown, Jake"? Same thing.

    , @Corvinus
    @Rob

    "Are there any honest histories of Reconstruction?

    No True Scottsman Fallacy AND conformation bias. There are definitive accounts of Reconstruction that are honest and forthright. You just want to focus on only certain information that supports your narrative.

    "I would really like to know how black people acted with a government that was, at least a little, not trying to exploit or oppress them."

    To the contrary...

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-02-07/exploiting-black-labor-after-the-abolition-of-slavery

    https://www.history.com/news/black-codes-reconstruction-slavery

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/reconstruction-turbulent-post-civil-war-period-explained

    "The big problem black people have is the cognitive gap."

    Given your history of comments, you do, too.

    "Separation is the only solution we have not tried that might be appealing to blacks and whites."

    We do have separation. People can choose where to live and work today. But segregation is not coming back.

  69. @anon
    @J.Ross

    They pled to misdemeanors, this enables Mark McCloskey to keep his run for the Senate in 2022 going.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-plead-guilty-to-misdemeanors-after-brandishing-guns-outside-st-louis-mansion/

    The McCloskey's requested their guns be donated to an organization that could use them for fundraising. Denied by the judge, who insisted the guns be surrendered and destroyed.

    McCloskey's should be able to legally go buy some replacements if they wish.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @J.Ross, @James J O'Meara

    Yeah, I think it’s just those particular guns. Although not sure what would happen now on a background check.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @hhsiii

    ... in which case I still ask what was the point?

  70. @Anonymous
    On-topic:

    Do any blacks live in Chicago anymore? The population of blacks seems to have exploded in Iowa the last six months. A shit ton of African immigrants as well. Daily shootings in every part of the QCA metro area.

    Replies: @John Up North, @J.Ross

    Yeah, Chicago is roughly 1/3 black. It seems to me that they’re filtering out into the Northside of Chicago and out to the suburbs from their longtime strongholds on the West an South Sides of Chicago. We’re all being enriched.

  71. @Arclight
    @Thomas

    I remember maybe 15 years ago DC's attempts to have more cops who were from 'the community' resulted in the discovery that something like 20% of the police force had a criminal record. In my neighborhood pre-gentrification, the old timers would tell me that one upside to having whites move in was that we would actually call the police - people who had lived there in the 80s and 90s would not because in those days the odds were pretty good the cops would tell the perps who had dropped a dime, and that fear still was there.

    Interestingly for me, on the couple of occasions in which I happened to talk to black cops who had been called to the block, it was made clear they absolutely detested the lower class blacks that were the cause of their frequent visits. I know the media likes to report on 'police violence' and suspects getting treated roughly, but they never try to quantify the race of the cops most likely to mete it out, and I think I know why.

    Replies: @Corn, @Peter D. Bredon

    I know the media likes to report on ‘police violence’ and suspects getting treated roughly, but they never try to quantify the race of the cops most likely to mete it out

    Back in the 00s there was a sketch comedy show on MTV or VH1 with a segment called Things Black People Fear. One thing the black comics said black people fear: black cops.

    White cops, they explained, are often restrained in dealing with blacks. They’re afraid of a career damaging lawsuit, complaint etc. Black cops don’t turn to Jello if someone yells racist, so the black comics explained they’ll often beat your ass faster than a white cop.

  72. @Anonymous
    If "diversity" and mass immigration is such a strength, why don't nonwhite countries embrace it?

    Are the Vietnamese, for example, so stupid they can't see the obvious benefits of "enriching" themselves with a flood of "New Vietnamese" from Africa and Pakistan? Are nonwhite peoples just so selfless that they allow white people to hoard this "vibrant" "gift" for themselves?

    And why do these humane and charitable NGOs generously direct all this "diversity" to white people, when nonwhite peoples need the "benefits" so much more?

    Maybe the goal of global one-way "diversity" is really something else? And "anti-racism" is really just anti-whiteism?

    Replies: @jon

    If “diversity” and mass immigration is such a strength, why don’t nonwhite countries embrace it?

    Some do:

    Zimbabwe Begs White Farmers To Return As Nation Teeters On Brink Of ‘Manmade Starvation’

    https://newspunch.com/zimbabwe-begs-white-farmers-to-return-as-nation-teeters-on-brink-of-manmade-starvation/

    DIVERSITY IS AFRICA’S STRENGTH!

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @jon

    Turns out diversity IS strength... for black nations. They need Whites to provide basic services. Stronger together!

    Replies: @Malla

  73. @Dr. X
    White cops with seniority are retiring en masse. They'd rather move to Florida and collect their pensions than spend a few more years on the job and run the risk of getting get Chauvinized.

    But that's part of the plan. They will be replaced by young, woke minorities and women who will ride herd on white America in the future.

    Replies: @Rob Lee, @BenKenobi

    Minority cops will only be able to ride herd on those whites stupid enough to stay in the big cities. The suburbs and rural environs will still overwhelmingly be policed by whites, who will retain the support of their more conservative denizens, and who will not put up with urbans rolling out to the countryside. Start looking for some property with clear shooting lanes and a preserved backstop (which ironically enough the nutty greens will keep verdant and undeveloped for you) and you’ll be fine. When I lived in middle PA the local cops had zero trouble shuffling the occasional, wayward hood rat who’d strayed too far from Pittsburgh or Philly out of their mortal coil with no repercussions.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Rob Lee

    "When I lived in middle PA the local cops had zero trouble shuffling the occasional, wayward hood rat who’d strayed too far from Pittsburgh or Philly out of their mortal coil with no repercussions."

    How long before they remake My Cousin Vinnie with a black cast?

  74. @Caspar von Everec
    Good. Burn the cities down. Force people to live those places. Cities since the bronze age and earlier have acted as a sort of population leech for the nations. They take in the brightest and prettiest and run them into a sterile life of careerism and materialism.

    High density urban living is deeply contradictory to mankind's evolutionary history of living in the countryside and saps a person of his vitality over time. It crushed fertility. Look at any East Asian metropolis, Seoul, Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong, they all have TFRs below 1. They have more dogs than babies. Its hardly much better in western megapolises like NY or London.

    They sap the vitality out of the countryside and fail to reproduce themselves. In the past they were an unavoidable evil because of the concentration of labor and capital they facilliated. In modern times, the internet, telerobotics and automation can greatly ammeriolate the need for large dense cities.

    Let people live in the countryside or rural areas where they have more of a semblance of historical living. Instead of wasting money on rent and fast food, they could instead have kids, live with their kin and build communities.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Hangnail Hans

    Is there enough available arable land for all 7.5 billion humans to live, work, and play in rural, close-knit communities with their own houses/yards?

    • Replies: @frankie p
    @S. Anonyia

    No, there isn't enough arable land. Hence, look for an mRNA correction, coming soon to a global population near you.

  75. @J.Ross
    On topic: the McCloskeys, the St Louis couple whose historical restored mansion was attacked by rioters, have been disarmed by a lunatic judge who wants them to die.

    Replies: @anon, @Muggles

    As with the other reply, they pled guilty to a couple of misdemeanors and a small fine ($2K).

    Yes, the firearms are gone but are replaceable. Of course none of the armed rioters had any judicial punishment, but nowadays, it’s not what you do but who your friends are.

    Seattle/Portland antifa/BLM Chaz/Chad versus pro Trump DC rally on Jan. 6.

    One was an “insurrection” and the other events were “mostly peaceful protests.”

    Meanwhile, as we read iSteve’s blog here, the feds are interrogating his former golf buddies to determine exactly how many times he failed to give himself a penalty stroke. Some new form of Systemic Racism on his part.

    News at 11.

  76. @Thomas
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.
     
    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the "dismount," the last word that's the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    So it's not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can't afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @The Alarmist, @Muggles, @Moses, @Jim Don Bob

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.

    From the NYT excerpt.

    Yes, by all means. There are literally tons of unemployed and otherwise unemployable social work grads, psych majors and Black Studies graduates who for some horrible reason can’t find good paying employment. Sociologists are begging for jobs.

    So there we have it. Problem solved. Get those guys, gals, gays, trans and other oddwads out there on the streets with clipboards and sympathy. They can listen empathically and direct miscreants to the closest welfare office. If anyone knows how to deal with hard core thugs and crazies, it’s a recent Brown sociology grad. Even Women’s Studies!

    In fact, every current Old School cop should have a new Woke sociologist intern working at their side. Preferably in front. Much useful learning will occur, I just know it! You gotta believe!

    • Replies: @Gamecock
    @Muggles

    I saw that movie. The Enforcer, 1976.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

  77. @hhsiii
    @anon

    Yeah, I think it's just those particular guns. Although not sure what would happen now on a background check.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    … in which case I still ask what was the point?

  78. @Carol
    “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

    - Someone

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Anonymous, @Bill

    “Pacifists believe they have the right not to kill, but others always die in defense of that right.”

    Falcone.

  79. @Anonymous
    On-topic:

    Do any blacks live in Chicago anymore? The population of blacks seems to have exploded in Iowa the last six months. A shit ton of African immigrants as well. Daily shootings in every part of the QCA metro area.

    Replies: @John Up North, @J.Ross

    After the butcher-scamsters of Postville, Iowa lost their cartel helots, they couldn’t let it be a white town again, so Somalis were shipped in.

  80. @anon
    @J.Ross

    They pled to misdemeanors, this enables Mark McCloskey to keep his run for the Senate in 2022 going.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-plead-guilty-to-misdemeanors-after-brandishing-guns-outside-st-louis-mansion/

    The McCloskey's requested their guns be donated to an organization that could use them for fundraising. Denied by the judge, who insisted the guns be surrendered and destroyed.

    McCloskey's should be able to legally go buy some replacements if they wish.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @J.Ross, @James J O'Meara

    That judge is as much a lunatic who should decorate a tree as the idiot in Detroit who insisted that female genital mutilation was Constitutionally protected until the right phrasing could be composed. I’m sure the law talker reasoning is “I have a law degree, and can do whatever I want,” and that judge’s reasoning is that the guns themselves are both magic and morally informed, but the standard I in my puling ignorance expect is
    A, a person can be trusted to handle a firearm (the default until proven otherwise) or
    B, the person has demonstrated grounds to believe they cannot safely handle a firearm, in which case all their arms are taken and new purchase is prohibited. There should be a high standard of evidence here and self-defense can never constitute these grounds.
    Taking one gun but permitting another strikes me as capricious and illogical, in fact, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t what the judge thought he was doing. Witchburning is closer. The guns are reminders that someone white dared to not take a knee, so they must be erased from the book of inanimate life.
    And the people who broke down the gate and invaded the property and issued death threats (including with guns of their own) — yeah, I thought so. Save the thugs, execute the law school graduates.

  81. I have been right much more often than not in my predictions. Whites are going to begin to leave blue states first, and America altogether later. This will begin later this decade and increase rapidly by 2035.

  82. @Diversity Heretic
    I don't see why any white person with options would seek work as a police officer in any community where he or she might confront a black on a more than occasional basis. I predict an increase in gated communities with private security for those who can afford it, and gang-style retributive violence security for poorer communities. In the short run, blacks are clearly on top, even if it is costing them a lot of self-inflicted casualties. In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Anonymous, @KenH, @Anon

    I don’t see why any white person with options would seek work as a police officer in any community where he or she might confront a black on a more than occasional basis

    Well, you made the point. White proles in suburban America don’t have too many options to find a job that pays a decent salary and awards excellent benefits. All of these “retiring” cops are in their 40s and 50s. They can “retire” because they have put in their twenty, are fully vested in their pensions and will receive healthcare for they and their wife until the day they die. Matchless opportunity for the white prole.

  83. @Old and Grumpy
    Wonder how many cops are leaving the force in cities with George Soros financed DAs. I can't even imagine how Philadelphia even has one cop left with Larry Krasner as DA.

    Replies: @R.C., @James J O'Meara

    Good point. It seems that a statistical analysis could be relatively easily done. It would be valuable.
    And then, the NYT would put in on the front page! (Sarcasm.)
    R.C.

  84. Anonymous[233] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gamecock
    Candace Owens has this figured out. Defund the police/back riots is INTENTIONAL destruction. Black communities are just collateral damage.

    The Left's goal is federal police, doing away with all local police forces. [HR1 is to federalize local election control.] Lori Lightfoot cries, "Local cities can't control this. They just can't." As she adopts policies that insure more crime.

    The end point is federal policing. Which is on the way to the greater goal: the end of states, Washington control of everything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill, @JerseyJeffersonian

    But you know Candace Owens is just that token black person that “color blind” conservatives love to point to.

  85. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Thomas


    uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee
     
    How many different ways can you say "black" without actually using the word?

    Replies: @Thomas, @TWS, @Anonymous

    Boy oh boy, so much sweet racism on this site!

    Are black people more dangerous than white people? Within a century of Hitler and Stalin that sounds like a pretty brave assertion to have confidence in.

    So maybe, just maybe, all us liberals have a point that income inequality breeds violence?

    21st century society is a social construct, just as any other society is. (Different hunter gatherer societies too, but that’s an interesting albiet less relevant discussion than comparing the differing social constructs of say, 1940 Russia and Germany.)

    In America certain traits and backgrounds tend to be rewarded with lots and lots of cash and other goodies while those with different traits granted by nature and nurture tend to get punished quite harshly. And then they get punished for getting punished.

    The officially racist response is simple enough. We want what’s good for whites. And a larger percentage of whites are likely to win in our current society than in one based upon physical strength. So, hooray! We made our preferred society. One where Aryan-based people tend to win. Sure, the fact that the majority of blacks lose out in this system means greater dangers for us and a greater tax burden but we racists are working on that. Imprison as many as possible and decrease their welfare and medical benefits at any opportune moment.

    That’s a coherent argument.

    Those of you who fancy yourselves non-racist however have a bit of ‘splainin to do. Not that race is the be all and end all. Lots of Out Of Africa people are punished by this system and lots of Bantus thrive. The question about income inequality applies there as well, but people on this site seem quite uninterested in that subject so we’ll stick with race, lest expanding the conversation to white trash serves us nothing but a heaping bowl of red herring.

    So, if the bell curve shows clearly that distinction between different racial groups when it comes to who gets to live a long comfortable life and who gets to live in relative poverty and eventually chains, can you ceny that those who support this system are racist? Or at the least, not terribly concerned for those who by nature and nurture are condemned to live at the bottom of the American totem pole.

    If Han people are naturally more capable of foregoing that marshmallow so that on their deathbed they will have five, while the Bantu mind, evolved under different circumstances, is less capable of seeing beyond that gooey white sugariness doesn’t that imply that racial inequality is built into the system? “Systemic”, perhaps?

    Under these circumstances why should society’s losers not stand up and fight? Does this explain to you why so many of the BLM-Antifa rioters are not black but actually poor whites whose nature and nurture condemned them to a bad life in America? They remain underrepresented of course because it’s obviously easier to fight street battles at night in an easy to spot color war.

    The liberal view (my view) is that while we can not entirely equalize the life outcomes for every last citizen, we can get closer to it by reducing the wealth difference within the populace.

    Not to trigger any undercover snowflakes here but how about this: No one can inherit, in cash or assets, more than 3 million dollars.

    I would prefer the excess go to the better run charities (perhaps chosen by the pre-deceased), or if that’s too complicated than to the national coffers, and if this too befuddles our tax attorneys than we can just burn the cash

    and melt the rest into an ever growing golden calf to be worshipped by those so inclined.

    Peace in our country has thus far been attained through euphemistic “pacification”. Arrest every 2nd man at some point in his life, and 1 out of every 25 American men for a real prison sentence and walla. Peace be upon us.

    If that works for you, good and well. Embrace the understanding that you have clear racial preferences (if the word “racist” frightens you) and enjoy the occasional fireworks as the underclass fights back – whether piecemeal or en masse.

    As an American rather than an Economyer however I believe that we ought to make a few tweaks to such a system.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    We made our preferred society. One where Aryan-based people tend to win.
     
    Not just Aryan-based people. Jews, Asians, etc. Almost everyone except blacks, in fact.

    If blacks would prefer to live in and would thrive better in black run societies, there are plenty of them - most of the Caribbean, all of sub-Saharan Africa. You just need a plane ticket and you could live forever in Wakanda (OK, maybe in the real Wakanda ( say Zimbabwe or Ghana) the electricity goes in and out a lot, but they are run by black people for black people). But the flow seems to be in the other direction - they want the riches of a white society but not to play by the white man's rules. Can't have it both ways. Or maybe you can, for a while at least until it all falls apart.

    , @Eternally Antifascist
    @Anonymous

    @86.

    We notice that you specifically avoided stating what your net worth is on this date, as well as the net worth of any spouse that you may have as well as offspring.

    Like all mentally deluded classic liberals, you are exceedingly fast at giving away, or seizing surreptitiously for your own financial benefit, the assets of other people, particularly those who genetically would be classified as Caucasoid and who are decidedly NOT of the criminal or welfare class. Rather, being the mentally disturbed liberal that you claim to be, you drool at the prospect of looting, without any consequences, the assets of hard working highly intelligent citizens of this country!! And the motivation is obvious: it is only the intelligent hard working Caucasoid, and some Mongoloid, citizens that have acquired assets that have both financial and practical, useful merit!! By contrast, how much can you personally acquire from a Negroid welfare mother, probably 18 years of age, who already has 4 illegitimate bastards and $5 reserve and present cash???

    Instead of enabling you, and your ilk, to attempt to loot from the aforementioned class(es) of American citizens, I think that there should be a law (enforced on pain of death) that would compel you, and all liberals similar to you, to immediately SURRENDER all assets physical, financial, and real to the Treasury Department in order to reduce the taxes imposed upon the classes of American citizens (that I have previously described). You, your spouse(s), your offspring should not be allowed to possess ANYTHING other than the clothes that you wear so that the HHS Department could classify you, and all like you, as the MOST impoverished citizens of this country.

    And I would personally violate the Constitution so that unto the hundredth generation none of your descendants would ever own/possess anything other than the rags that they would wear!!!

  86. @Gamecock
    Candace Owens has this figured out. Defund the police/back riots is INTENTIONAL destruction. Black communities are just collateral damage.

    The Left's goal is federal police, doing away with all local police forces. [HR1 is to federalize local election control.] Lori Lightfoot cries, "Local cities can't control this. They just can't." As she adopts policies that insure more crime.

    The end point is federal policing. Which is on the way to the greater goal: the end of states, Washington control of everything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Candace Owens

    is a necon shill of modest ability, attractive to Boomers desperate to prove they aren’t racist.

    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Spect3r
    @Bill

    I also struggle to see what Conservatives see on her.
    I cant pint point exactly why but i really cant stand listening to her, seems to me she tries way too hard, i dont know, something seems off about her.

    , @Gamecock
    @Bill


    is a necon shill of modest ability, attractive to Boomers desperate to prove they aren’t racist
     
    Boomers are mature. They feel no need to prove anything to anybody. You project your immaturity.

    So when you watch Tucker Carlson, if he has Candace Owens on, you fast forward through it.

    HAH! You don't even watch Tucker Carlson, and you have never even watched Candace Owens. You are just reading from your Leftard playbook what to say if someone says "Candace Owens."
  87. @Arclight
    One of the defining features of our political moment and the media's reporting is a steadfast commitment to not understanding human behavior and how people respond to incentives.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Jack D, @Erik L, @gent, @Bill

    Agree with gent. The right really has to turn loose of this bizarre idea that lefties are basically good, well-intentioned people who are just a little confused about how the world works.

    They are not like that. They want to hurt me and the people I care about.

  88. @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    I can’t find the link now but this is a “no shitter” . About ten years or more back a Negro discharged from the army robbed a convenience store in Texas and murdered the clerk before returning to Baltimore where he saw that the BPD was hiring . The genius went down to apply for a position and one question asked if the applicant had committed any crimes . He actually confessed to the crime in Texas on the application. The BPD contacted the town in Texas and sure enough they had an unsolved murder that fit the description of the crime described by the aspiring police officer . He was extradited to Texas tried and convicted .
    In another example of a criminal mastermind from the ghetto about 20 years ago an aspiring bank robber walked into Baltimore city bank with a note demanding money . The note was written on a deposit slip from a different bank the teller God bless her pointed this out to the would be robber and told him he would have to go down the street to that bank . He actually walked out of the bank and down to the other bank where the police were waiting for him .
    I read both those stories in the B-more papers .
    To be fair White boys can be just as stupid I read this story about thirty years ago . Two White guys went to rob a payroll office in the one of the Carolinas N or S . There were too many people in the office when they arrived and so to kill the time until the office emptied out they filled out a couple of job applications while they waited . They then robbed the pay roll office and fled the scene . The police were able to capture them pretty quick tho because they left the two applications behind with their real names and addresses on them .

  89. “Racial reckoning” is a meme. In other words, an empty cliche’ relied upon by lazy, superficially educated apparatchiks as a substitute for real thought.

  90. No one as vicious, grasping, delusional, corrupt, self-righteous and callous as a PC leftie is against vigorous law enforcement. They’re not defunding THE police. They’re defunding OUR police. The NEW police will be their plaything and will be unleashed on dissidents and dissenters.

    Non-PCers think these people are just silly and misguided. They’re not; they’re downright BLOODY EVIL. Whatever emerges from this mess is going to be very unpleasant indeed.

    Meanwhile, any slum-dwellers who get above themselves will be quietly crushed and the NYT will say nothing.

  91. @Anonymous
    @The Alarmist


    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.
     
    -
    Nowadays most cops make very good money and get very generous (and often tax-free) pensions. And a lot of them retire in their early 40’s and go on to double-dip. Most of them never have to fire their gun on the job.

    More than 30 police officers in Boston were paid more than $300,000 in 2020, according to a report from the Boston Globe.

    In addition to the 30 officers who made more than $300,000, 509 officers in the city earned at least $200,000, according to the report.

    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/more-than-30-boston-police-officers-netted-north-of-300k-in-2020-report/2368433/
     

    I’m sure there were more officers making over $300k than officers making under $100k.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    Cops can retire young. They’ll be a little less young when many kids, born today, will start paying taxes. (15+ % of that revenue will get shoveled into PERS, e.g. for the benefit of those same ex-cops.) It’ll be an unjust fifteen years or so til those kids, by then fully adult, will no longer have to pay for cop services they never received.

    It’s outrageous how government “worker” (i.e. executive branch) retirees — many (like FFs) with windfall pensions — or their domestic partners, end up in the legislature, and even rise to leadership roles. That’s an obvious violation of separation of powers, and a particularly offensive one at that: They spend most of their political capital working to increase salaries and especially pension benefits for their public union brethren. When they’re finally term-limited out, there’s always another ex-gov waiting in the wings to take their place.

    Meanwhile, more and more of the budget gets skimmed off to bailout PERS, leaving little money to pay for the cop services that taxpayers expect.

  92. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carol
    “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

    - Someone

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Anonymous, @Bill

    Well yes Carol, we are aware of the motto of your sex.

    It isn’t much to be proud of though.

  93. @Muggles
    @Thomas


    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    From the NYT excerpt.

    Yes, by all means. There are literally tons of unemployed and otherwise unemployable social work grads, psych majors and Black Studies graduates who for some horrible reason can't find good paying employment. Sociologists are begging for jobs.

    So there we have it. Problem solved. Get those guys, gals, gays, trans and other oddwads out there on the streets with clipboards and sympathy. They can listen empathically and direct miscreants to the closest welfare office. If anyone knows how to deal with hard core thugs and crazies, it's a recent Brown sociology grad. Even Women's Studies!

    In fact, every current Old School cop should have a new Woke sociologist intern working at their side. Preferably in front. Much useful learning will occur, I just know it! You gotta believe!

    Replies: @Gamecock

    I saw that movie. The Enforcer, 1976.

    • Thanks: Muggles
    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Gamecock

    Don't forget that Larry the Cable Guy movie too.

  94. @Brian Reilly
    If the individual cops are finally acting on the facts before them, this is very, very good news. The cops (individually may be decent and well meaning) are in service of tyrants, guarding the crooked establishment, protecting the thieving class and their minions. It won't be until all the good men STOP protecting that class that we can make any progress on destroying them.

    It ids a damned shame about the negroes, but if they would stop perpetrating crimes on each other in such grotesque numbers, it wouldn't be a big deal. That isn't likely to happen, so batten down, decent negroes. Storms a comin'.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Storms a comin’

    Been comin’ all my life and will still be when I’m gone.

    I’d strongly advise anyone counting on it getting here to revise your plans accordingly.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
  95. Anonymous[351] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I don't see why any white person with options would seek work as a police officer in any community where he or she might confront a black on a more than occasional basis. I predict an increase in gated communities with private security for those who can afford it, and gang-style retributive violence security for poorer communities. In the short run, blacks are clearly on top, even if it is costing them a lot of self-inflicted casualties. In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Anonymous, @KenH, @Anon

    In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.

    Highly doubtful. I sometimes wonder how Unz commenters are able to formulate such inaccurate views of the world. Asians are more inhibited than whites, and Hispanic Americans have actually tended to take in blacks, particularly in Florida and California’s high desert region.

    • Agree: PaceLaw
    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, the Africans are really taking the Chinese for a ride. Playin' em like a fiddle.

    Of course, the real roll-overs are the Japanese. Just stick to their island, minding their own business.

  96. @Rich
    And the supposedly center-right NY Post has endorsed a former squeegee man, who became an anti-White NYC cop as mayor. NYC is in big trouble after this election. Too much virtue signaling from the top echelon will now bring the city down. Shame, I made a decent living there and one of my kids is doing okay there, too. I guess they forgot the trouble they got into when they virtue signaled Dinkins in. Now that the city is under 50% Pale, it's probably over. I had hopes the ever increasing Hispanic population might slow the decline, but it looks like they've decided to follow the blacks into poverty. Oh well.

    Replies: @Rob, @Hibernian

    Are NYC Hispanics PR, Dominican, and such? Mulatto Hispanics are hopefully worse than Mexicans. I say hopefully because there are way more Mexicans. It would be a shame if we lost the West Coast and SW to people as bad and sad as Dominicans.

    • Replies: @Rich
    @Rob

    You might find this hard to believe, but Dominicans, many of them, are bright, hard working people. Pro-cop and anti-black. Puerto Ricans are a mixed bag, but many, maybe even a majority, are pretty much integrated into American society in the NY area and side with Whites against the very criminally inclined black population. Mexicans and Central Americans are swarming the NY area right now and many seem to be hard workers, keep their heads down, do their jobs and are friendly when interacting with Whitey. I don't know if that will change after amnesty, but for now they're okay. There is, however, a very big gang problem with the Latin Americans, especially their children and I'm told by people whose kids go to school with them that it's getting worse. In the end, I think when this all plays out, we'll be lucky if we end up like Mexico, some good parts, some very bad parts and a lot of corruption, but a functioning society.

  97. My daughter retailed a story about the entire Portland Oregon Riot Squad (about sixty officers) resigning en masse.

    Hope it’s true.

    • Replies: @Spect3r
    @Colin Wright

    It is.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/entire-portland-police-unit-resigns-after-fellow-officer-targeted-by-politically-driven-assault-charge

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Colin Wright

    It's partially true, Colin. The resigned from the riot squad, but they didn't resign from their regular positions. I.e, they really didn't give up their jobs.

    Oh, and I got the story wholesale - cheaper that way. ;-}

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  98. @Caspar von Everec
    Good. Burn the cities down. Force people to live those places. Cities since the bronze age and earlier have acted as a sort of population leech for the nations. They take in the brightest and prettiest and run them into a sterile life of careerism and materialism.

    High density urban living is deeply contradictory to mankind's evolutionary history of living in the countryside and saps a person of his vitality over time. It crushed fertility. Look at any East Asian metropolis, Seoul, Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong, they all have TFRs below 1. They have more dogs than babies. Its hardly much better in western megapolises like NY or London.

    They sap the vitality out of the countryside and fail to reproduce themselves. In the past they were an unavoidable evil because of the concentration of labor and capital they facilliated. In modern times, the internet, telerobotics and automation can greatly ammeriolate the need for large dense cities.

    Let people live in the countryside or rural areas where they have more of a semblance of historical living. Instead of wasting money on rent and fast food, they could instead have kids, live with their kin and build communities.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Hangnail Hans

    Back here on Planet Earth, we have over 8 billion people and are headed for 12 before the end of the century.

    • Replies: @frankie p
    @Hangnail Hans

    No, the Davos crowd has plans for a culling of a significant portion of that 8 billion, and by the way, we don't have 8 billion yet. Look for the mRNA correction, not messy like traditional kill-offs like world wars, coming to a global population near you!

  99. @Anonymous
    OT: Fully one-third of this year's high school graduates at the Indian tribe I am affiliated with joined the armed forces. In fact, every student with a "B" average or higher enlisted. There were no waivers, no affirmative action pass-throughs. Every student who joined was more qualified than 75% of the nation's 18-24 year-olds.
    One thing for sure: 90 percent, maybe 99 percent, of these kids will never return to the rez except from time to time to visit relatives. They will disappear into the wider world, out-marry and have children and grandchildren who will just be generic Americans. They are an example of those in crummy situations who have any get-up-and-go getting up and going. It may be good for the country in a broad sense, but it's very bad news for the tribes and explains a lot of the dysfunction on the rez.

    Replies: @Macumazahn

    If the best of the tribe’s youth is departing via the armed forces, I think you ought to ask what the tribe has to offer them. Why shouldn’t they out-marry and become “generic” Americans? They apparently have less of an attachment to the tribe, and without nostalgia how can the tribe compete?
    Respectfully, “How Ya Gonna Keep ’em Down on the Farm (After They’ve Seen Paree)?”

  100. @Redneck farmer
    Maybe bringing back institutions for the mentally ill and keeping them in them will make cops lives easier? Or maybe we could have "Juneteenth Zones" where the police can't enter, but the "citizens" can't exit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Known Fact, @Hangnail Hans

    I like all of these great ideas but it’s important to acknowledge that the society is moving in the opposite direction at warp speed.

  101. @Rich
    And the supposedly center-right NY Post has endorsed a former squeegee man, who became an anti-White NYC cop as mayor. NYC is in big trouble after this election. Too much virtue signaling from the top echelon will now bring the city down. Shame, I made a decent living there and one of my kids is doing okay there, too. I guess they forgot the trouble they got into when they virtue signaled Dinkins in. Now that the city is under 50% Pale, it's probably over. I had hopes the ever increasing Hispanic population might slow the decline, but it looks like they've decided to follow the blacks into poverty. Oh well.

    Replies: @Rob, @Hibernian

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Adams_(politician)

    He apparently had a minor juvenile record. You’re not going to get a latter day Barry Goldwater in NYC.

    • Replies: @Rich
    @Hibernian

    Can we have a latter day Giuliani? How about a latter day Bloomberg, for all his faults? Okay, I'll even take a latter day Koch or Abe Beame. Adams will be worse than Dinkins, worse even, than Diblasio. This guy hates Whitey, has since his old NYPD days. He even had the "brains" to call Whitey interlopers for moving to Brooklyn because they were black neighborhoods. Forgetting that Whitey founded, built and lived in those neighborhoods for years before his people destroyed them.

  102. @Mr. Peabody
    NYT prose is inspiring.
    I'll be visiting a few banks in the coming days. Be makin' some robust withdrawals.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Visiting in person? The only purpose of that could be to withdraw money in the form of paper currency. Perhaps reconsider.

  103. @Known Fact
    @Redneck farmer

    NYC mayoral candidate Yang is under fire -- for saying people have a right to walk down the street without getting bashed in the head by some homeless person. This is now considered "insensitive." Kiss your cities goodbye, police or no police

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    a right to walk down the street without getting bashed in the head by some homeless person

    At this point, I’m not sure anyone still choosing to live in NYC should have the right to walk down the street without getting bashed in the head by some homeless person.

    It’s a future, not a bug.

    Now you’re in New York
    These streets will make you feel brand new
    Lights will inspaiya yoo

  104. I am sure a lot of these guys suffer from PTSD. Like the military they are serving behind enemy lines and are constantly unsure of who they can and cannot trust. Worse, they are liable to get stabbed in the back at the earliest convenience by the cities that employ them. They become inured to TNB, shootings including children, comrades who get shot, hurt, and fired and now arrested for upholding the law.

  105. @Carol
    “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

    - Someone

    Replies: @GeneralRipper, @Anonymous, @Bill

    Don’t you hate that? Kipling almost said it. Orwell almost said it (consciously echoing Kipling almost saying it). It’s like the famous not-quite-quote by Chesterton: “A man who won’t believe in God will believe in anything.” He almost said this more than once but not quite.

  106. @Supply and Demand
    @Desiderius

    Interesting that the part about the reformation wasn’t highlighted.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Peter D. Bredon

    He’s more carrot than stick.

  107. @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club.

    BASED.

    This is exactly why we need a, “Fing Cool,” button in the comment system.

  108. anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:

    You know, tracking drugs, gangs, and guns sounds pretty … RACIST. Gun control laws put a lot of black men in prison, so they’ve got to go, or maybe just make it illegal for whites to have long guns, while the government could provide every black youth with a handgun on his 14th birthday, along with posters of his favorite rappers holding pistols sideways to keep the death toll down.

    There is widespread consensus that another reason retention has suffered is that police officers are asked to do too much. In addition to confronting crime, they also deal with mental health problems, addiction and homelessness, as well as the occasional lost dog.

    All these different tasks that police are asked to do really cuts down on their donut shop time.

  109. @Whiskey
    Looks like I am right again. I said years ago that de Blasio would turn NYC into Detroit, and looks like I was right.

    NYC is filled with blacks and Nuyoricans. These people have sky high crime rates and in order to keep high earners on Wall Street the crime has to be suppressed with fairly tough stop and frisk policies that target blacks and other high offending groups. That's just reality. Of course black people don't like it -- even the law abiding figure their relatives should have the right to rob and beat people.

    So shootouts at Times Square will be commonplace. Broadway is a dead thing walking -- even middle class White women won't come if it means a shooting or beating. They love George Floyd from a DISTANCE. Not up close.

    NYC can't recover. There is no reason for it to exist other than a stinking, poverty stricken urban hellhole from a John Carpenter movie. Wealth can and will move, its mobile, and Miami Beach looks good in January, now they can hole up in Martha's Vineyard or in the Adirondacks. All Wall Street needs is a good data connection and some servers wired up to the exchanges for flash trading by program; the big shots can be anywhere in the world now. NYC can't be a tourist place, tourists don't like getting shot or beaten. And no one can turn around policing in NYC -- that's a feature of the permanent Regency that installed Biden. No black anywhere for anything can ever be arrested, ever. Period. All blacks have divine right of KANGZ to do what they please, particularly to Whites. That's the law, as handed down by the Supremes and interpreted by 100,000 bureaucrats in the Federal Government.

    And as NYC goes, so goes LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, Austin, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Milwaukee, and every city in the US of any particular size. The only reason for them to exist is to provide fake ballots on Election day, and a gathering place for the street army of homeless, anti-fa weirdos, and black criminals that make up the core of Democrats and indeed, Democracy itself. Democracy cannot exist without a black street criminal keeping it real by shooting into a crowd or stabbing some White person to death. That's the core of Democracy right there. I'm not being sarcastic, that really is what Democracy is when you get down to it.

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @Harry Baldwin

    I think you’re being a little dramatic and overly pessimistic here my friend. “NYC can’t recover“??? Give me a break! I would say that New York was in even worse shape in the 60s and 70s in terms of crime. As we all know now, Giuliani introduced a law and order and “broken windows“ policing style which tremendously turned the city around. Sooner or later, it’s only a matter of time before the people of New York will again develop a taste for law and order policing. This will be nothing more than a cyclical development in the history of New York. After all, didn’t Santayana say that “people who forget the past are condemned to repeat it”???

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @PaceLaw

    Yes, this is a completely artificial problem. We are effectively choosing it.

  110. @Henry's Cat
    Talking of a representative police force, is there evidence to show that they're fatter on average than the general population?

    What's the average age that American cops retire at? Does 20 years service equate to a liveable pension?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Does 20 years service equate to a liveable pension?

    The clever thing is to get two pensions, for example, put in 20 years with the army and then 20 years on the police force. Alternatively, get a private sector job after doing your 20 years with the police. A dilemma police officers face is that, while they would qualify for a higher pension if they work additional years beyond 20, they risk losing their pension entirely if they get into a Chauvin-type situation. Police work and politics being what they are, there’s no way to protect themselves from that.

  111. @Gamecock
    Candace Owens has this figured out. Defund the police/back riots is INTENTIONAL destruction. Black communities are just collateral damage.

    The Left's goal is federal police, doing away with all local police forces. [HR1 is to federalize local election control.] Lori Lightfoot cries, "Local cities can't control this. They just can't." As she adopts policies that insure more crime.

    The end point is federal policing. Which is on the way to the greater goal: the end of states, Washington control of everything.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Absolutely. It’s the final goal of Abraham Lincoln, railroad lawyer, and you know that this could only mean that he was a made man in The Borg of his time. Gotta dissolve the Republic, while hypocritically claiming to do the opposite. Srreamlining, don’t you know.

    And, unsurprisingly, using blacks as the instrument to “morally justify” the use of naked, centralizing force; he didn’t seem to like them all that much, but he found them an convenient rationale for his self-appointed task as autocrat.

  112. @Bardon Kaldian
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6hWHNRUycM

    Replies: @PaceLaw

    Thanks for posting! This was very informative. I like how the guest (James Craig?) said that the crime and murder rates in cities such as Chicago “are not due to a gun problem, but due to a criminal problem.” That nails it!!! Criminals: a) don’t give a damn about the law; and b) are willing to kill with whatever is handy. Journalists should be more willing to aggressively challenge politicians on the idea that “illegal guns” and buyback programs are the solution to sky-high murder rates. A true street criminal would have no interest in selling his gun to a buyback program (unless he’s about to use that money to upgrade to a better grade of pistol. Lol!).

  113. @Whiskey
    Looks like I am right again. I said years ago that de Blasio would turn NYC into Detroit, and looks like I was right.

    NYC is filled with blacks and Nuyoricans. These people have sky high crime rates and in order to keep high earners on Wall Street the crime has to be suppressed with fairly tough stop and frisk policies that target blacks and other high offending groups. That's just reality. Of course black people don't like it -- even the law abiding figure their relatives should have the right to rob and beat people.

    So shootouts at Times Square will be commonplace. Broadway is a dead thing walking -- even middle class White women won't come if it means a shooting or beating. They love George Floyd from a DISTANCE. Not up close.

    NYC can't recover. There is no reason for it to exist other than a stinking, poverty stricken urban hellhole from a John Carpenter movie. Wealth can and will move, its mobile, and Miami Beach looks good in January, now they can hole up in Martha's Vineyard or in the Adirondacks. All Wall Street needs is a good data connection and some servers wired up to the exchanges for flash trading by program; the big shots can be anywhere in the world now. NYC can't be a tourist place, tourists don't like getting shot or beaten. And no one can turn around policing in NYC -- that's a feature of the permanent Regency that installed Biden. No black anywhere for anything can ever be arrested, ever. Period. All blacks have divine right of KANGZ to do what they please, particularly to Whites. That's the law, as handed down by the Supremes and interpreted by 100,000 bureaucrats in the Federal Government.

    And as NYC goes, so goes LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, Austin, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Milwaukee, and every city in the US of any particular size. The only reason for them to exist is to provide fake ballots on Election day, and a gathering place for the street army of homeless, anti-fa weirdos, and black criminals that make up the core of Democrats and indeed, Democracy itself. Democracy cannot exist without a black street criminal keeping it real by shooting into a crowd or stabbing some White person to death. That's the core of Democracy right there. I'm not being sarcastic, that really is what Democracy is when you get down to it.

    Replies: @PaceLaw, @Harry Baldwin

    And no one can turn around policing in NYC

    A former New York City police commissioner, I think it was Ray Kelly, was on Mark Simone’s radio show month or so ago. He said it wouldn’t be easy to turn around the situation in NYC at this point due to some of the procedures put into place by the ultra-left city council, as well as Governor Cuomo’s no-cash-bail legislation which returns criminals to the streets as quickly as they’re arrested.

  114. @TWS
    @Thomas

    It's not impossible to find men from minority communities that meet the standards. But any who do have far more opportunities presented to them on a platter.

    Replies: @Thomas

    That was my point.

  115. @Thomas
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.
     
    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the "dismount," the last word that's the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    So it's not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can't afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @The Alarmist, @Muggles, @Moses, @Jim Don Bob

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.

    It occurs to me that the people pushing all this “defund the police” nonsense know that it will push out many veteran officers, and especially White veteran officers.

    I think that may be the point.

    The police are the only major institution remaining that the Left has yet to infiltrate and subvert.

    After Whites are gone they get to build up the police with non-Whites they control who have been whipped into an anti-White frenzy by 50 years of anti-White manufactured media spectacles like the St George canonization.

    Same thing is happening in the military.

    The Left is not stupid. They know exactly what they are doing.

    The objective of Power is Power. They’re getting it.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Moses

    "The police are the only major institution remaining that the Left has yet to infiltrate and subvert."

    I only wish you were right.

  116. @Dr. X
    White cops with seniority are retiring en masse. They'd rather move to Florida and collect their pensions than spend a few more years on the job and run the risk of getting get Chauvinized.

    But that's part of the plan. They will be replaced by young, woke minorities and women who will ride herd on white America in the future.

    Replies: @Rob Lee, @BenKenobi

    You assume that the writ of the feral US Govt will run.

    Things that cannot go on forever, won’t.

  117. @The Alarmist
    I watched my old man go off into the race riots of the sixties in a short-sleeve shirt, a helmet with face shield, a 38, brass knuckes, and a billy-club. He took a shotgun blast to his shoulder, but still brought the mo-fo down with his club. He went on to do another 15 years of policing. By the standards of cops in the sixties, many of today’s cops are found lacking, but at least they are still out there.

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas, @Alden, @John Johnson, @Ragno, @donut, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Old Brown Fool

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them

    Men cross oceans, climb treacherous peaks, land on the moon, go to the bottom of the oceans, face the charge of marauders, all risking their lives only when they know their society is backing them in their actions, and, should anything happen to them, their family will be taken care of.

    Withdraw that support, men will not venture out to defend their neighbours.

  118. @Bill
    @Gamecock


    Candace Owens
     
    is a necon shill of modest ability, attractive to Boomers desperate to prove they aren't racist.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Gamecock

    I also struggle to see what Conservatives see on her.
    I cant pint point exactly why but i really cant stand listening to her, seems to me she tries way too hard, i dont know, something seems off about her.

  119. @Dan Smith
    Listen you VDare racists: the NYT so pwns you! It published an article showing how wrong people are to think Chicago has the highest murder rate in the country. Well it doesn’t. It’s seventh highest. So shut up already!

    Replies: @Spect3r

    Which city do they say is in the first place?
    Just curious, i dont care about your argument 🙂

  120. South Africa example shows that taking early retirement is better, because the alternative is familicides. The way that the police defunding work in SA is that the entire area-defense network was dismantled, thereby doubling normal police work over larger areas resulting in an increase in farmmurders. It is an impossible task to police under these circumstances.

    • Thanks: J.Ross
  121. @Colin Wright
    My daughter retailed a story about the entire Portland Oregon Riot Squad (about sixty officers) resigning en masse.

    Hope it's true.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Achmed E. Newman

  122. @tyrone
    Let's see ,on one hand you can spend your golden years in the bosom of your family or the other where you spend it in prison ......which to choose .......tough one.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Let’s see ,on one hand you can spend your golden years in the bosom of your family or the other where you spend it in prison ……which to choose …….tough one.

    It is with my family.

    • Agree: tyrone
  123. Looks like Poso’s finally hit the big time.

    • LOL: LondonBob
  124. I don’t begrudge police & firemen their pensions (within reason), it’s the gaming of the system with overtime their final year that I don’t like.

  125. @Rob
    @Rich

    Are NYC Hispanics PR, Dominican, and such? Mulatto Hispanics are hopefully worse than Mexicans. I say hopefully because there are way more Mexicans. It would be a shame if we lost the West Coast and SW to people as bad and sad as Dominicans.

    Replies: @Rich

    You might find this hard to believe, but Dominicans, many of them, are bright, hard working people. Pro-cop and anti-black. Puerto Ricans are a mixed bag, but many, maybe even a majority, are pretty much integrated into American society in the NY area and side with Whites against the very criminally inclined black population. Mexicans and Central Americans are swarming the NY area right now and many seem to be hard workers, keep their heads down, do their jobs and are friendly when interacting with Whitey. I don’t know if that will change after amnesty, but for now they’re okay. There is, however, a very big gang problem with the Latin Americans, especially their children and I’m told by people whose kids go to school with them that it’s getting worse. In the end, I think when this all plays out, we’ll be lucky if we end up like Mexico, some good parts, some very bad parts and a lot of corruption, but a functioning society.

    • LOL: 3g4me
  126. @Diversity Heretic
    I don't see why any white person with options would seek work as a police officer in any community where he or she might confront a black on a more than occasional basis. I predict an increase in gated communities with private security for those who can afford it, and gang-style retributive violence security for poorer communities. In the short run, blacks are clearly on top, even if it is costing them a lot of self-inflicted casualties. In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Anonymous, @KenH, @Anon

    Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.

    Latins and Asians won’t curl up in a ball and suck their thumb if they are called racists. But in this bizarro world they could just as easily blame black savagery on white supremacy.

  127. @Hibernian
    @Rich

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Adams_(politician)

    He apparently had a minor juvenile record. You're not going to get a latter day Barry Goldwater in NYC.

    Replies: @Rich

    Can we have a latter day Giuliani? How about a latter day Bloomberg, for all his faults? Okay, I’ll even take a latter day Koch or Abe Beame. Adams will be worse than Dinkins, worse even, than Diblasio. This guy hates Whitey, has since his old NYPD days. He even had the “brains” to call Whitey interlopers for moving to Brooklyn because they were black neighborhoods. Forgetting that Whitey founded, built and lived in those neighborhoods for years before his people destroyed them.

  128. @Colin Wright
    My daughter retailed a story about the entire Portland Oregon Riot Squad (about sixty officers) resigning en masse.

    Hope it's true.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s partially true, Colin. The resigned from the riot squad, but they didn’t resign from their regular positions. I.e, they really didn’t give up their jobs.

    Oh, and I got the story wholesale – cheaper that way. ;-}

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Achmed E. Newman

    'It’s partially true, Colin. The resigned from the riot squad, but they didn’t resign from their regular positions. I.e, they really didn’t give up their jobs.'

    If I was a conservative multi-billionaire, I'd offer to underwrite a Police Officers' strike fund if they'd go out on strike. Say a department with a thousand officers -- put fifty million in the kitty and they could stay out for quite a while.

  129. He only symbolized that to the people like this commenter that Dick is talking about who have gotten things backward. Dick himself is wrong in a different way than Murray.

    Murray is wrong that white identity would be too strong (the danger is that it would be too weak and take everything down with it), Hanania is wrong that Whites have become more liberal.

    Doubling down on deracination is an imperial move and empires are structurally illiberal, which is why liberals like Greenwald are rightfully freaking out at the deep state capture of the institutions of American liberalism.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Desiderius

    'He only symbolized that to the people like this commenter that Dick is talking about who have gotten things backward. Dick himself is wrong in a different way than Murray...'

    As always with Trump, it was a matter of the alternative being worse.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  130. @PaceLaw
    @Whiskey

    I think you’re being a little dramatic and overly pessimistic here my friend. “NYC can’t recover“??? Give me a break! I would say that New York was in even worse shape in the 60s and 70s in terms of crime. As we all know now, Giuliani introduced a law and order and “broken windows“ policing style which tremendously turned the city around. Sooner or later, it’s only a matter of time before the people of New York will again develop a taste for law and order policing. This will be nothing more than a cyclical development in the history of New York. After all, didn’t Santayana say that “people who forget the past are condemned to repeat it”???

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Yes, this is a completely artificial problem. We are effectively choosing it.

  131. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Colin Wright

    It's partially true, Colin. The resigned from the riot squad, but they didn't resign from their regular positions. I.e, they really didn't give up their jobs.

    Oh, and I got the story wholesale - cheaper that way. ;-}

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘It’s partially true, Colin. The resigned from the riot squad, but they didn’t resign from their regular positions. I.e, they really didn’t give up their jobs.’

    If I was a conservative multi-billionaire, I’d offer to underwrite a Police Officers’ strike fund if they’d go out on strike. Say a department with a thousand officers — put fifty million in the kitty and they could stay out for quite a while.

  132. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/impoliticaljnky/status/1406268357783994385?s=20

    He only symbolized that to the people like this commenter that Dick is talking about who have gotten things backward. Dick himself is wrong in a different way than Murray.

    Murray is wrong that white identity would be too strong (the danger is that it would be too weak and take everything down with it), Hanania is wrong that Whites have become more liberal.

    Doubling down on deracination is an imperial move and empires are structurally illiberal, which is why liberals like Greenwald are rightfully freaking out at the deep state capture of the institutions of American liberalism.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘He only symbolized that to the people like this commenter that Dick is talking about who have gotten things backward. Dick himself is wrong in a different way than Murray…’

    As always with Trump, it was a matter of the alternative being worse.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Colin Wright

    Exactly. The only thing that matters is making a better one. And then another after that.

    Victory by induction.

    Replies: @res

  133. @anon
    @J.Ross

    They pled to misdemeanors, this enables Mark McCloskey to keep his run for the Senate in 2022 going.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-plead-guilty-to-misdemeanors-after-brandishing-guns-outside-st-louis-mansion/

    The McCloskey's requested their guns be donated to an organization that could use them for fundraising. Denied by the judge, who insisted the guns be surrendered and destroyed.

    McCloskey's should be able to legally go buy some replacements if they wish.

    Replies: @hhsiii, @J.Ross, @James J O'Meara

    “Denied by the judge, who insisted the guns be surrendered and destroyed.”

    Why destroyed? That seems like voodoo reasoning, on a par with digging up Stonewall Jackson’s corpse. I suppose “gun violence” is a spooky entity that must be dealt with in such a way, as in a Lovecraft tale.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  134. @Old and Grumpy
    Wonder how many cops are leaving the force in cities with George Soros financed DAs. I can't even imagine how Philadelphia even has one cop left with Larry Krasner as DA.

    Replies: @R.C., @James J O'Meara

    Mike from Breaking Bad would have a way to deal with that prick.

  135. @Patrick in SC

    Last year’s departures came against the backdrop of protests
     
    It's just a "backdrop" y0u know. Kind of like how gunfire just "erupts."

    when George Floyd was murdered by a Minneapolis police officer
     
    He died of a massive drug overdose compounded by pre-existing ill health.

    The pandemic also brought a surge in the most violent crimes
     
    .

    Why would a pandemic which forces people to stay home "bring" a surge in violent crimes?
    Nonsensical.

    These "journalists" are the most mendacious gang of liars in the world. Even North Koreans get a Ministry of Information which is at least kinda, sorta pro-Korean. These creeps just want people, preferably white people, killed and maimed.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    “Why would a pandemic which forces people to stay home “bring” a surge in violent crimes?
    Nonsensical.”

    I yield to no one in my contempt for journos, but I can see that works. People forced to spend all their time with spouse and kids instead of at the office or plant; making less money or losing their job entirely, etc. Same reasons murders and riots surge in hot weather.

  136. @John Johnson
    @The Alarmist

    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.

    I don't see why anyone would join the police in current conditions.

    It's only high paying in cities like Chicago and NYC where you have to commute a few hours if you want a family. In Chicago the police will live sometimes 3-4 hours away and stay in a hotel to work 3 12s. Medical workers will do the same. This is the result of trying to look the other way on Black pathologies and what they do to neighborhoods (what the media calls White flight). In my profession I was offered a massive pay increase to work Chicago and they were using some old resume with references that didn't work.

    Maybe we should go ahead and built Robocop. Things are going to get worse and I don't see anyone lining up to police these areas.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “Maybe we should go ahead and built Robocop.”

    Like going back to the moon or colonizing Mars, we could have built Robocop but spent the money uplifting the bleks instead. (h/t Paul Kersey)

  137. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Boy oh boy, so much sweet racism on this site!

    Are black people more dangerous than white people? Within a century of Hitler and Stalin that sounds like a pretty brave assertion to have confidence in.

    So maybe, just maybe, all us liberals have a point that income inequality breeds violence?

    21st century society is a social construct, just as any other society is. (Different hunter gatherer societies too, but that's an interesting albiet less relevant discussion than comparing the differing social constructs of say, 1940 Russia and Germany.)

    In America certain traits and backgrounds tend to be rewarded with lots and lots of cash and other goodies while those with different traits granted by nature and nurture tend to get punished quite harshly. And then they get punished for getting punished.

    The officially racist response is simple enough. We want what's good for whites. And a larger percentage of whites are likely to win in our current society than in one based upon physical strength. So, hooray! We made our preferred society. One where Aryan-based people tend to win. Sure, the fact that the majority of blacks lose out in this system means greater dangers for us and a greater tax burden but we racists are working on that. Imprison as many as possible and decrease their welfare and medical benefits at any opportune moment.

    That's a coherent argument.

    Those of you who fancy yourselves non-racist however have a bit of 'splainin to do. Not that race is the be all and end all. Lots of Out Of Africa people are punished by this system and lots of Bantus thrive. The question about income inequality applies there as well, but people on this site seem quite uninterested in that subject so we'll stick with race, lest expanding the conversation to white trash serves us nothing but a heaping bowl of red herring.

    So, if the bell curve shows clearly that distinction between different racial groups when it comes to who gets to live a long comfortable life and who gets to live in relative poverty and eventually chains, can you ceny that those who support this system are racist? Or at the least, not terribly concerned for those who by nature and nurture are condemned to live at the bottom of the American totem pole.

    If Han people are naturally more capable of foregoing that marshmallow so that on their deathbed they will have five, while the Bantu mind, evolved under different circumstances, is less capable of seeing beyond that gooey white sugariness doesn't that imply that racial inequality is built into the system? "Systemic", perhaps?

    Under these circumstances why should society's losers not stand up and fight? Does this explain to you why so many of the BLM-Antifa rioters are not black but actually poor whites whose nature and nurture condemned them to a bad life in America? They remain underrepresented of course because it's obviously easier to fight street battles at night in an easy to spot color war.

    The liberal view (my view) is that while we can not entirely equalize the life outcomes for every last citizen, we can get closer to it by reducing the wealth difference within the populace.

    Not to trigger any undercover snowflakes here but how about this: No one can inherit, in cash or assets, more than 3 million dollars.

    I would prefer the excess go to the better run charities (perhaps chosen by the pre-deceased), or if that's too complicated than to the national coffers, and if this too befuddles our tax attorneys than we can just burn the cash https://youtu.be/JnX-D4kkPOQ
    and melt the rest into an ever growing golden calf to be worshipped by those so inclined.

    Peace in our country has thus far been attained through euphemistic "pacification". Arrest every 2nd man at some point in his life, and 1 out of every 25 American men for a real prison sentence and walla. Peace be upon us.

    If that works for you, good and well. Embrace the understanding that you have clear racial preferences (if the word "racist" frightens you) and enjoy the occasional fireworks as the underclass fights back - whether piecemeal or en masse.

    As an American rather than an Economyer however I believe that we ought to make a few tweaks to such a system.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Eternally Antifascist

    We made our preferred society. One where Aryan-based people tend to win.

    Not just Aryan-based people. Jews, Asians, etc. Almost everyone except blacks, in fact.

    If blacks would prefer to live in and would thrive better in black run societies, there are plenty of them – most of the Caribbean, all of sub-Saharan Africa. You just need a plane ticket and you could live forever in Wakanda (OK, maybe in the real Wakanda ( say Zimbabwe or Ghana) the electricity goes in and out a lot, but they are run by black people for black people). But the flow seems to be in the other direction – they want the riches of a white society but not to play by the white man’s rules. Can’t have it both ways. Or maybe you can, for a while at least until it all falls apart.

  138. @Arclight
    @Thomas

    I remember maybe 15 years ago DC's attempts to have more cops who were from 'the community' resulted in the discovery that something like 20% of the police force had a criminal record. In my neighborhood pre-gentrification, the old timers would tell me that one upside to having whites move in was that we would actually call the police - people who had lived there in the 80s and 90s would not because in those days the odds were pretty good the cops would tell the perps who had dropped a dime, and that fear still was there.

    Interestingly for me, on the couple of occasions in which I happened to talk to black cops who had been called to the block, it was made clear they absolutely detested the lower class blacks that were the cause of their frequent visits. I know the media likes to report on 'police violence' and suspects getting treated roughly, but they never try to quantify the race of the cops most likely to mete it out, and I think I know why.

    Replies: @Corn, @Peter D. Bredon

    “Systematic racism” is the epicycle that accounts for that; the black cop per se serves the system of White Supremacy. In the old days it was “Uncle Tom” (see A Soldier’s Story) but that was too individualistic and sporadic.

    “Hiring minorities” is so 1980s and “liberal”. Wokesters know that makes no difference; only abolishing the police as such will do the job.

  139. @Supply and Demand
    @Desiderius

    Interesting that the part about the reformation wasn’t highlighted.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Peter D. Bredon

    Because that’s where the trouble started? Says the man who likely would be an illiterate peasant hoeing rutabagas rather than typing away on a PC. Do you, like Richard Weaver, hate shoes too?

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @Peter D. Bredon

    I’m descended from Hungarian metallurgists who scored a noble title after the crusade of Nicopolis. Emperor Sigismund was fond of the family’s handiwork, being the first European monarch to travel on campaign with cannon. Staying Catholic among domains full of Hussite heretics — particularly among the artisan classes — certainly helped more than it hurt.

  140. @Ragno
    @The Alarmist

    We could still have a core concentration of men and women as solid and steadfast as in the 60s, or the 50s...... or the 1890s, for that matter.

    What we wouldn't have countenanced then, that we shrug our shoulders impotently at now, is turning our kids over to Professor Rabinowitz and the weaklings he educated a generation ago who will influence them to throw away any crucifixes in their vicinity - like around their necks - and follow in his Gramscian footsteps, adoringly, and return home to us as, uhhh..... finished products.

    Most of the neo-Bolsheviks training/perverting our kids to hate themselves, their forebears, their country and their God are no longer named things like Rabinowitz. They were all exposed to one, however; long enough and early enough for the imprinting to take, providing the good Professor and his tribesmen with cover the way those horrible Muslim terrorists hide their weapons caches among children and old people. You 'll think twice about clearing out the Augean stables when you see your own kids down there....because even caked in filth, they're your kids and they'll always be. And so we hesitate, and thus we lose. By way of deception these people wage war, you see.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “You ‘ll think twice about clearing out the Augean stables when you see your own kids down there….because even caked in filth, they’re your kids and they’ll always be. And so we hesitate, and thus we lose. ”

    Calm down, Col. Kurtz. Your methods have become unsound.

  141. @Colin Wright
    @Desiderius

    'He only symbolized that to the people like this commenter that Dick is talking about who have gotten things backward. Dick himself is wrong in a different way than Murray...'

    As always with Trump, it was a matter of the alternative being worse.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Exactly. The only thing that matters is making a better one. And then another after that.

    Victory by induction.

    • Replies: @res
    @Desiderius


    Exactly. The only thing that matters is making a better one. And then another after that.

    Victory by induction.
     
    I like that phrase. Very similar to the way I use "forward progress" as something of a mantra when trying to deal with bad situations. Thanks.
  142. @Ray P
    And the boys of the NYPD choir are singing Take this job and shove it.

    Replies: @Pissedoffalese

    LOL. LOVE that song.

    So now instead of hiring Irish cops, they’ll go for something like the Ton Ton Macouts? Not sure about the spelling on that.

    Today being Fathers’ Day, Egg Day (Winlock, WA), AND Juneteenth (threefer), we had a parade here. It was marvelous. Not a face diaper in sight and hordes of people from about five surrounding towns. White, with maybe three or four brownish people, plus the taco truck (I wish he would move here) and the guy selling tamales. I saw ONE black guy and overheard him say he was from the next town over.

    Some kid (little girl) sang a terribly off-key rendition of the national anthem, but EVERYONE took their caps off, hands over their hearts, and applauded like mad when she finished (probably BECAUSE she finished–she was that bad). No one took a knee or even thought about it.

    Parade was raining candy and little kids were running everywhere. It made me tear up, because whilst I am aware of the evils this country has done, it was all so heartfelt and sweet, and the sense of community was so palpable. THIS was what America was supposed to be or should be.

    I am so glad I moved here. I mean, there’s NOTHING here. A few stores (Small), maybe 10 all told, four bars, five restaurants, two gas stations (minority owned–one Chinese, the other Sikh), and a thrift store/restaurant/food bank combo. That’s it. Not even a stop light.

    The Republicans made a HUGE entrance with something like five vehicles, buckets of candy, etc. Everyone clapped and howled approval, whilst the Democrats didn’t even show up. I did not see ONE person who didn’t applaud. Weird cuz everybody seems so friendly and liberalish, and this IS Western Washington, but it is SOLID MAGA country.

    YET, I’ve heard people here tell me all this CRT and race riot bullshit has them about ready to join the Klan. Things are going to explode.

    Nobody I know voted for Biden or Gov Inslee. The ones who didn’t like Trump just sat it out.

    Me, I voted solid Republican, not cuz I like Republicans–I have been a Democrat my entire life, but I was just so disgusted with all the lies and what the Democrats have done over the last five years.

    I am so thankful to not be in a city of any sort or anywhere NEAR one.

  143. @Bill
    @Gamecock


    Candace Owens
     
    is a necon shill of modest ability, attractive to Boomers desperate to prove they aren't racist.

    Replies: @Spect3r, @Gamecock

    is a necon shill of modest ability, attractive to Boomers desperate to prove they aren’t racist

    Boomers are mature. They feel no need to prove anything to anybody. You project your immaturity.

    So when you watch Tucker Carlson, if he has Candace Owens on, you fast forward through it.

    HAH! You don’t even watch Tucker Carlson, and you have never even watched Candace Owens. You are just reading from your Leftard playbook what to say if someone says “Candace Owens.”

  144. @Rob
    Are there any honest histories of Reconstruction? I would really like to know how black people acted with a government that was, at least a little, not trying to exploit or oppress them.

    If they behaved well, that means they might be able to self-govern. We let Indians tribes govern themselves with federal LE as a backstop. It does not work well, in that Native Americans do not have great outcomest., but I’m pretty sure they are better than blacks’.At the least, NA’s can see that they are somewhat responsible for their situations. Black people do not have anywhere to go where they are the government.

    Law Enforcement in the South did not have protecting and servicing blacks. The lawman was there to keep blacks from victimizing whites. As a white person, I can totally see the appeal. Probably would have voted for it, thinking black people would eat us if they could. But do they actually hate us?

    They hate the cops. Police have treated black people very badly, including a habit of telling criminals who called the cops. As a result, good people have no incentive to work with the police. Bad people start shooting at people they don’t like. Average people, because someone generally has the values and behaviors of his community, follow suit. If you could never call the cops, how long before your neighborhood fall apart? Probably a long time? I hear homeowner association-homeowner relationships can get very tense. What if you couldn’t use the courts to enforce contracts? Force might be your only option. Plus, n a suburb you can avoid people you don’t like.

    Government, and police especially, have no legitimate authority. They have power. They can come in and crack heads. They can bring more force than you and your buddies can, except in a riot. When the cops are around, black people do what they say, but not when they gone. Some cities have decided to fund themselves with fines. Ferguson was one of those. If every time you dealt with the cops, you got a few hundred dollar ticket, you’d like the cops a lot less.

    The big problem black people have is the cognitive gap. The impulsive thing is a problem. But the IQ gap means there is nothing worthwhile that black people can do in the economy. There is no draw to the middle class that immigrants experience, because black people can’t hack the work. Maybe this could be ameliorated by reducing immigrantion, but the underclass being both large and looking different will always be a problem.

    Separation is the only solution we have not tried that might be appealing to blacks and whites.. Separation is not segregation, where blacks were lesser people, subject to the polity but not a part of it. Separation is blacks living under black laws, with black cops, with black bosses, with black…is there any realistic economic activity for a black state?

    With separation as a goal, in year 20xx, worked towards gradually, maybe blacks would try to learn in school? They would not learn as much, but even dumb kids can learn something, Maybe they’d try to stay out of prison?

    What are possible solutions to race being real, and blacks averaging lower IQ?

    1) status quo - try to muddle through like it’s 2010 forever
    2) awokening - put blacks in positions they are not smart enough for. Pretend that they are competent. Turn the CEO or whatever into a figurehead position, and make some other title for the person making decisions
    3) de facto soft segregation - this is not quite status quo, though. AA would be gone, and blacks would sink or rise to their level. What to do with the ghettoes? I got Facing Reality today. This is basically Murray’s path, right
    4) paternalism - lots of whites sacrifice income and families to try to help blacks
    5) separation
    6)?

    What are societies options, assuming we Face Reality? What are our options if we ignore reality, but reality keeps happening?

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Corvinus

    “Separation is the only solution we have not tried that might be appealing to blacks and whites.. Separation is not segregation, where blacks were lesser people, subject to the polity but not a part of it. Separation is blacks living under black laws, with black cops, with black bosses, with black…is there any realistic economic activity for a black state?”

    Good point. Of course, there is a whole continent full of black states, but of course they’re all shitholes, and only the dumbest wokester thinks that’s “because colonialism”; in fact, colonialism accounts for whatever 1st world infrastructure and industry they inherited.

    The problem here is that a black state situated not in Africa but along side or in the middle of the USA would be constantly irritated by the comparison and constantly tempted to try to “avenge” the inequality. It would be Mexico on steroids as far as illegals go.

    Segregation was actually de facto separation; remember all the hullabaloo about “separate but equal” schools? The Supreme Court’s ridiculous mantra, “separate but equal is inherently unequal” puts it in a nutshell. They were rejection separation in the name of the new absolute, Equality.

    Under segregation, blacks lived in de facto black areas — call them “ghettos” if you must” — as everyone knew. If you wanted to hear jazz, you went up to Harlem, or 57th street, etc. You did indeed have black cops, doctors, lawyers, etc. because blacks couldn’t work/live in White areas and vice versa; but also no White wanted to live/work with blacks. Remember “It’s just Chinatown, Jake”? Same thing.

  145. @jon
    @Anonymous


    If “diversity” and mass immigration is such a strength, why don’t nonwhite countries embrace it?
     
    Some do:

    Zimbabwe Begs White Farmers To Return As Nation Teeters On Brink Of ‘Manmade Starvation’
     
    https://newspunch.com/zimbabwe-begs-white-farmers-to-return-as-nation-teeters-on-brink-of-manmade-starvation/

    DIVERSITY IS AFRICA'S STRENGTH!

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    Turns out diversity IS strength… for black nations. They need Whites to provide basic services. Stronger together!

    • Replies: @Malla
    @James J O'Meara

    More Whites and Yellows go and live in brown and black nations more the brown-black nations benefit. Exception maybe some Chinese communities in some South East Asian countries.
    On the other hand uncontrolled brown black migration to White Yellow countries eventually takes them towards third world conditions.
    Simple Rule.
    Africa needs to eventually understand it needs outside talent. Or it can languish behind forever.

  146. @Rob Lee
    @Dr. X

    Minority cops will only be able to ride herd on those whites stupid enough to stay in the big cities. The suburbs and rural environs will still overwhelmingly be policed by whites, who will retain the support of their more conservative denizens, and who will not put up with urbans rolling out to the countryside. Start looking for some property with clear shooting lanes and a preserved backstop (which ironically enough the nutty greens will keep verdant and undeveloped for you) and you’ll be fine. When I lived in middle PA the local cops had zero trouble shuffling the occasional, wayward hood rat who’d strayed too far from Pittsburgh or Philly out of their mortal coil with no repercussions.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    “When I lived in middle PA the local cops had zero trouble shuffling the occasional, wayward hood rat who’d strayed too far from Pittsburgh or Philly out of their mortal coil with no repercussions.”

    How long before they remake My Cousin Vinnie with a black cast?

  147. @Gamecock
    @Muggles

    I saw that movie. The Enforcer, 1976.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    Don’t forget that Larry the Cable Guy movie too.

  148. @Anonymous
    @Diversity Heretic


    In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.
     
    Highly doubtful. I sometimes wonder how Unz commenters are able to formulate such inaccurate views of the world. Asians are more inhibited than whites, and Hispanic Americans have actually tended to take in blacks, particularly in Florida and California's high desert region.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    Yeah, the Africans are really taking the Chinese for a ride. Playin’ em like a fiddle.

    Of course, the real roll-overs are the Japanese. Just stick to their island, minding their own business.

  149. @Moses
    @Thomas


    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    It occurs to me that the people pushing all this "defund the police" nonsense know that it will push out many veteran officers, and especially White veteran officers.

    I think that may be the point.

    The police are the only major institution remaining that the Left has yet to infiltrate and subvert.

    After Whites are gone they get to build up the police with non-Whites they control who have been whipped into an anti-White frenzy by 50 years of anti-White manufactured media spectacles like the St George canonization.

    Same thing is happening in the military.

    The Left is not stupid. They know exactly what they are doing.

    The objective of Power is Power. They're getting it.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    “The police are the only major institution remaining that the Left has yet to infiltrate and subvert.”

    I only wish you were right.

  150. Anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I don't see why any white person with options would seek work as a police officer in any community where he or she might confront a black on a more than occasional basis. I predict an increase in gated communities with private security for those who can afford it, and gang-style retributive violence security for poorer communities. In the short run, blacks are clearly on top, even if it is costing them a lot of self-inflicted casualties. In the long run, Latins and Asians are going to tire of black dysfunction and, lacking the inhibitions of whites, simply put blacks on reservations.

    Replies: @Daniel H, @Anonymous, @KenH, @Anon

    Yes I think that if this country has any hope at all, it will involve 1) the decline of whites, who have shown themselves to be weak and ineffective and easy to manipulate by POC grifters, and 2) the rise and dominance of hispanics and asians, who lack whites’ pathetic guilt complex, and who will vigorously put misbehaving blacks in their place.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Anon

    Just say you hate Whites already and be done with it.

    You’re a subcon or possibly Asian. Good for you looking our for your tribal interests.

  151. @S. Anonyia
    @Caspar von Everec

    Is there enough available arable land for all 7.5 billion humans to live, work, and play in rural, close-knit communities with their own houses/yards?

    Replies: @frankie p

    No, there isn’t enough arable land. Hence, look for an mRNA correction, coming soon to a global population near you.

  152. @Hangnail Hans
    @Caspar von Everec

    Back here on Planet Earth, we have over 8 billion people and are headed for 12 before the end of the century.

    Replies: @frankie p

    No, the Davos crowd has plans for a culling of a significant portion of that 8 billion, and by the way, we don’t have 8 billion yet. Look for the mRNA correction, not messy like traditional kill-offs like world wars, coming to a global population near you!

  153. @Anon7
    Cops are also leaving ”urban” jobs to go elsewhere. The big story in Detroit right now is that newly trained recruits jump ship immediately:

    Detroit is tired of being used as a freebie training ground for other police departments.

    For years, city officials have complained Detroit’s police shortage is exacerbated by an exodus of recruits who receive free training through the city’s police academy only to leave for a suburban force upon graduation.

    Now, a bill in Lansing would allow cities throughout Michigan to claw back training money – about $18,000 in wages – from recruits who leave within five years.

    The poaching is so bad police from other departments have shown up at Detroit’s police academy graduation to recruit officers, said Detroit Police Commissioner Willie Bell.
     

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    I would say the city doing the poaching should have to repay Detroit for the training of the officer.

  154. @Anon
    @Diversity Heretic

    Yes I think that if this country has any hope at all, it will involve 1) the decline of whites, who have shown themselves to be weak and ineffective and easy to manipulate by POC grifters, and 2) the rise and dominance of hispanics and asians, who lack whites' pathetic guilt complex, and who will vigorously put misbehaving blacks in their place.

    Replies: @Moses

    Just say you hate Whites already and be done with it.

    You’re a subcon or possibly Asian. Good for you looking our for your tribal interests.

  155. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Boy oh boy, so much sweet racism on this site!

    Are black people more dangerous than white people? Within a century of Hitler and Stalin that sounds like a pretty brave assertion to have confidence in.

    So maybe, just maybe, all us liberals have a point that income inequality breeds violence?

    21st century society is a social construct, just as any other society is. (Different hunter gatherer societies too, but that's an interesting albiet less relevant discussion than comparing the differing social constructs of say, 1940 Russia and Germany.)

    In America certain traits and backgrounds tend to be rewarded with lots and lots of cash and other goodies while those with different traits granted by nature and nurture tend to get punished quite harshly. And then they get punished for getting punished.

    The officially racist response is simple enough. We want what's good for whites. And a larger percentage of whites are likely to win in our current society than in one based upon physical strength. So, hooray! We made our preferred society. One where Aryan-based people tend to win. Sure, the fact that the majority of blacks lose out in this system means greater dangers for us and a greater tax burden but we racists are working on that. Imprison as many as possible and decrease their welfare and medical benefits at any opportune moment.

    That's a coherent argument.

    Those of you who fancy yourselves non-racist however have a bit of 'splainin to do. Not that race is the be all and end all. Lots of Out Of Africa people are punished by this system and lots of Bantus thrive. The question about income inequality applies there as well, but people on this site seem quite uninterested in that subject so we'll stick with race, lest expanding the conversation to white trash serves us nothing but a heaping bowl of red herring.

    So, if the bell curve shows clearly that distinction between different racial groups when it comes to who gets to live a long comfortable life and who gets to live in relative poverty and eventually chains, can you ceny that those who support this system are racist? Or at the least, not terribly concerned for those who by nature and nurture are condemned to live at the bottom of the American totem pole.

    If Han people are naturally more capable of foregoing that marshmallow so that on their deathbed they will have five, while the Bantu mind, evolved under different circumstances, is less capable of seeing beyond that gooey white sugariness doesn't that imply that racial inequality is built into the system? "Systemic", perhaps?

    Under these circumstances why should society's losers not stand up and fight? Does this explain to you why so many of the BLM-Antifa rioters are not black but actually poor whites whose nature and nurture condemned them to a bad life in America? They remain underrepresented of course because it's obviously easier to fight street battles at night in an easy to spot color war.

    The liberal view (my view) is that while we can not entirely equalize the life outcomes for every last citizen, we can get closer to it by reducing the wealth difference within the populace.

    Not to trigger any undercover snowflakes here but how about this: No one can inherit, in cash or assets, more than 3 million dollars.

    I would prefer the excess go to the better run charities (perhaps chosen by the pre-deceased), or if that's too complicated than to the national coffers, and if this too befuddles our tax attorneys than we can just burn the cash https://youtu.be/JnX-D4kkPOQ
    and melt the rest into an ever growing golden calf to be worshipped by those so inclined.

    Peace in our country has thus far been attained through euphemistic "pacification". Arrest every 2nd man at some point in his life, and 1 out of every 25 American men for a real prison sentence and walla. Peace be upon us.

    If that works for you, good and well. Embrace the understanding that you have clear racial preferences (if the word "racist" frightens you) and enjoy the occasional fireworks as the underclass fights back - whether piecemeal or en masse.

    As an American rather than an Economyer however I believe that we ought to make a few tweaks to such a system.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Eternally Antifascist

    @86.

    We notice that you specifically avoided stating what your net worth is on this date, as well as the net worth of any spouse that you may have as well as offspring.

    Like all mentally deluded classic liberals, you are exceedingly fast at giving away, or seizing surreptitiously for your own financial benefit, the assets of other people, particularly those who genetically would be classified as Caucasoid and who are decidedly NOT of the criminal or welfare class. Rather, being the mentally disturbed liberal that you claim to be, you drool at the prospect of looting, without any consequences, the assets of hard working highly intelligent citizens of this country!! And the motivation is obvious: it is only the intelligent hard working Caucasoid, and some Mongoloid, citizens that have acquired assets that have both financial and practical, useful merit!! By contrast, how much can you personally acquire from a Negroid welfare mother, probably 18 years of age, who already has 4 illegitimate bastards and $5 reserve and present cash???

    Instead of enabling you, and your ilk, to attempt to loot from the aforementioned class(es) of American citizens, I think that there should be a law (enforced on pain of death) that would compel you, and all liberals similar to you, to immediately SURRENDER all assets physical, financial, and real to the Treasury Department in order to reduce the taxes imposed upon the classes of American citizens (that I have previously described). You, your spouse(s), your offspring should not be allowed to possess ANYTHING other than the clothes that you wear so that the HHS Department could classify you, and all like you, as the MOST impoverished citizens of this country.

    And I would personally violate the Constitution so that unto the hundredth generation none of your descendants would ever own/possess anything other than the rags that they would wear!!!

  156. @Bragadocious

    Gun control laws put a lot of black men in prison

     

    Uh, not really. Not in the gun-free paradise of NY anyway.

    https://twitter.com/NYPDShea/status/1405843604216627206

    This should be a bigger story. NYC is the nation's poster child for tough gun laws, with mandatory prison sentences. And yet, the reality is that it's a desk ticket, followed by a plea down to disorderly persons. That's reality. So, liberals, spare me your bullshit about the NRA.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    I wonder if he’s being candid because De Blasio is a lame duck and the front runner to replace him is an ex-cop.

  157. @Peter D. Bredon
    @Supply and Demand

    Because that's where the trouble started? Says the man who likely would be an illiterate peasant hoeing rutabagas rather than typing away on a PC. Do you, like Richard Weaver, hate shoes too?

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

    I’m descended from Hungarian metallurgists who scored a noble title after the crusade of Nicopolis. Emperor Sigismund was fond of the family’s handiwork, being the first European monarch to travel on campaign with cannon. Staying Catholic among domains full of Hussite heretics — particularly among the artisan classes — certainly helped more than it hurt.

  158. res says:
    @The Alarmist
    @Thomas

    I guess they figure the higher pay will dissuade corruption. We didn’t have the swimming pools, flashy cars, and boats that some of the other cops in town had. Including overtime and detail work, your average cop’s pay of the ‘60s & ‘70s adjusted for inflation would barely make it into six figures.

    All levels of government used the “war for talent” of the ‘00s to overcome the “job security” pay gap and stuff their pockets.

    Replies: @res

    All levels of government used the “war for talent” of the ‘00s to overcome the “job security” pay gap and stuff their pockets.

    Yes. This is something which I don’t think has been discussed and/or covered in the media enough. Especially interesting was the transition from the classic mediocre pay/good benefits/security tradeoff of government work to good pay/good benefits/security present which is going to bankrupt state and local governments when the pension bills come due for those salary levels.

  159. @Desiderius
    @Colin Wright

    Exactly. The only thing that matters is making a better one. And then another after that.

    Victory by induction.

    Replies: @res

    Exactly. The only thing that matters is making a better one. And then another after that.

    Victory by induction.

    I like that phrase. Very similar to the way I use “forward progress” as something of a mantra when trying to deal with bad situations. Thanks.

  160. @anon
    Interesting to see this article today. By coincidence just a few days ago the local Gannett rag had a top of the fold story regarding the local police - recruitment has gotten more difficult and fewer people are applying for The Job. This in Flyover, USA where the only BLM protests were small and mainly consisted of some college students, a few high school students, and aging Boomer "concerned citizens". There was no "reckoning" out here last year. But it's still difficult for the cop shop to remain staffed.

    It's almost as if deliberately demoralizing cops in one city leads to morale changes in other places. Who could have seen that coming?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    It’s easier to get hired as a cop in flyover country. I was talking to a local cop earlier this year who said he hoped to get on with the feds after a few years.

  161. @Thomas
    @The Alarmist


    There was no shortage of people willing to walk into harm’s way when the larger society supported them, but we are seeing now the result of a critical mass of society and, more importantly, the so-called leadership taking a knee to the thugs. Defunding the police not only gives us fewer police; it also leaves policing attractive only for sociopaths and grifters.
     
    The last few paragraphs of the Times story (what I call the "dismount," the last word that's the takeaway they want readers to come away with):

    Some police agencies are responding by trying to widen the pool of applicants, in some cases using federal dollars from the American Rescue Plan to buttress their efforts.

    The New York Police Department recently waived its $40 registration fee for people who want to take the police test, officials said. In April, applications jumped by about a quarter, with 14,502 people signing up.

    Some cities lowered the amount of college education recruits needed, while Allentown, Pa., proposed that a ban on recruits who had used marijuana up to three years before be reduced to one year.

    Police officials and experts said the changes could present an opportunity for departments to focus on what kind of men and women become officers at a time when there is widespread public support for change.

    “It is not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink who you want to be a police officer,” said Philip M. Stinson, a former officer who is now a professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.
     
    So it's not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can't afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr. Anon, @The Alarmist, @Muggles, @Moses, @Jim Don Bob

    So it’s not necessarily a bad thing to have to rethink whether uneducated recent pot users who can’t afford a $40 testing fee are who you want to be police officers. I would have to call that assessment optimistic.

    Washington DC actually hired guys with felony records in the late 1980s under the reign of Marion “bitch set me up” Barry.

  162. “In contrast, the looting and arson by protesters didn’t happen. Who are you going to believe: Tucker Carlson and hundreds of hours of video?…But the surge in the most violent crimes had nothing to do with the the media declaring the racial reckoning.”

    Of course there were protests that ended up in rioting and violence. But it appears most protests were peaceful. So, iSteve, there is a treasure trove of data here about recent demonstrations. Right in your wheelhouse. Analyze it objectively, then write a definitive narrative rather than assume correlation = causation.

    https://elephrame.com/textbook/BLM

    https://acleddata.com/special-projects/us-crisis-monitor/

  163. @Rob
    Are there any honest histories of Reconstruction? I would really like to know how black people acted with a government that was, at least a little, not trying to exploit or oppress them.

    If they behaved well, that means they might be able to self-govern. We let Indians tribes govern themselves with federal LE as a backstop. It does not work well, in that Native Americans do not have great outcomest., but I’m pretty sure they are better than blacks’.At the least, NA’s can see that they are somewhat responsible for their situations. Black people do not have anywhere to go where they are the government.

    Law Enforcement in the South did not have protecting and servicing blacks. The lawman was there to keep blacks from victimizing whites. As a white person, I can totally see the appeal. Probably would have voted for it, thinking black people would eat us if they could. But do they actually hate us?

    They hate the cops. Police have treated black people very badly, including a habit of telling criminals who called the cops. As a result, good people have no incentive to work with the police. Bad people start shooting at people they don’t like. Average people, because someone generally has the values and behaviors of his community, follow suit. If you could never call the cops, how long before your neighborhood fall apart? Probably a long time? I hear homeowner association-homeowner relationships can get very tense. What if you couldn’t use the courts to enforce contracts? Force might be your only option. Plus, n a suburb you can avoid people you don’t like.

    Government, and police especially, have no legitimate authority. They have power. They can come in and crack heads. They can bring more force than you and your buddies can, except in a riot. When the cops are around, black people do what they say, but not when they gone. Some cities have decided to fund themselves with fines. Ferguson was one of those. If every time you dealt with the cops, you got a few hundred dollar ticket, you’d like the cops a lot less.

    The big problem black people have is the cognitive gap. The impulsive thing is a problem. But the IQ gap means there is nothing worthwhile that black people can do in the economy. There is no draw to the middle class that immigrants experience, because black people can’t hack the work. Maybe this could be ameliorated by reducing immigrantion, but the underclass being both large and looking different will always be a problem.

    Separation is the only solution we have not tried that might be appealing to blacks and whites.. Separation is not segregation, where blacks were lesser people, subject to the polity but not a part of it. Separation is blacks living under black laws, with black cops, with black bosses, with black…is there any realistic economic activity for a black state?

    With separation as a goal, in year 20xx, worked towards gradually, maybe blacks would try to learn in school? They would not learn as much, but even dumb kids can learn something, Maybe they’d try to stay out of prison?

    What are possible solutions to race being real, and blacks averaging lower IQ?

    1) status quo - try to muddle through like it’s 2010 forever
    2) awokening - put blacks in positions they are not smart enough for. Pretend that they are competent. Turn the CEO or whatever into a figurehead position, and make some other title for the person making decisions
    3) de facto soft segregation - this is not quite status quo, though. AA would be gone, and blacks would sink or rise to their level. What to do with the ghettoes? I got Facing Reality today. This is basically Murray’s path, right
    4) paternalism - lots of whites sacrifice income and families to try to help blacks
    5) separation
    6)?

    What are societies options, assuming we Face Reality? What are our options if we ignore reality, but reality keeps happening?

    Replies: @James J O'Meara, @Corvinus

    “Are there any honest histories of Reconstruction?

    No True Scottsman Fallacy AND conformation bias. There are definitive accounts of Reconstruction that are honest and forthright. You just want to focus on only certain information that supports your narrative.

    “I would really like to know how black people acted with a government that was, at least a little, not trying to exploit or oppress them.”

    To the contrary…

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-02-07/exploiting-black-labor-after-the-abolition-of-slavery

    https://www.history.com/news/black-codes-reconstruction-slavery

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/reconstruction-turbulent-post-civil-war-period-explained

    “The big problem black people have is the cognitive gap.”

    Given your history of comments, you do, too.

    “Separation is the only solution we have not tried that might be appealing to blacks and whites.”

    We do have separation. People can choose where to live and work today. But segregation is not coming back.

  164. @James J O'Meara
    @jon

    Turns out diversity IS strength... for black nations. They need Whites to provide basic services. Stronger together!

    Replies: @Malla

    More Whites and Yellows go and live in brown and black nations more the brown-black nations benefit. Exception maybe some Chinese communities in some South East Asian countries.
    On the other hand uncontrolled brown black migration to White Yellow countries eventually takes them towards third world conditions.
    Simple Rule.
    Africa needs to eventually understand it needs outside talent. Or it can languish behind forever.

  165. @Hannah Katz
    So I guess the big cities will just replace the cops by deputizing the Bloods and the Crips? What could go wrong?

    Replies: @JimDandy, @JimDandy

    I think there’s a long-game strategy to federalize local policing.

  166. @Hannah Katz
    So I guess the big cities will just replace the cops by deputizing the Bloods and the Crips? What could go wrong?

    Replies: @JimDandy, @JimDandy

    Well, I’ll be.

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