This essay doesn’t make any sense, it might as well have been written by some AI chatbot. I don’t even see the point of commenting on it.

Cleopatra was culturally Black.

There was no such thing as “Black culture” back then. This whole thing feels like these idiots are trying to apply American modern current pop culture rules to Antiquity.

there is no meaningful sense in which she — or anyone else of her era — would have identified as white.

Again, an idiotic anachronism. They wouldn’t be talking about “identifying as white” back then. But, even for modern standards, she was as white as white can be. Cleopatra wasn’t Black, she wasn’t even Egyptian, she was European (Greek).

Apparently the recent Allen, Texas mass shooter was a VDare and Unz Review reader:

Says he was radicalized through reading American Renaissance and VDARE, then meeting a white nationalists in the Army. He laughs at the fact that non-whites can be racist too, adding "gotcha." Says he walked around with an "It's Okay to Be White" t-shirt.

— Alexander Reid Ross (@areidross) May 8, 2023

almost done… shooter lists a variety of fav articles from the sources you'd expect… Jared Taylor, Gavin McInnes, Daily Stormer, but also some of those you often see in lefty circles like Philip Giraldi, Mike Whitney, Unz Review… pic.twitter.com/RPS83lPFhP

— Alexander Reid Ross (@areidross) May 8, 2023

Aren’t they confusing Cleopatra with Cleopatra Jones?

Btw, did black Cleo have black Nubian slaves?

Both the authors, Nally and Gilbert, both received their PhDs from the University of Virginia—one in classics, and the other in philosophy—with somewhat adjacent interests (though all women academics in the humanities nowadays cite gender studies.) I assume they know each other from graduate school and are academic collaborators.

Mr. Sailer is correct, of course. The piece is defensive, and they must be seeking to build up some woke cred to help safeguard their careers. Presumably, if you’re a white woman in academia these days, focusing merely on gender isn’t enough. It has to be race and gender, with the emphasis on the former.

Hey, hey, hey, this is library!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/05/12/noisy-library-defense-essay/

It’s okay for libraries to be loud! Take it from me, a librarian.

It is part of a horrible new epidemic where dishonesty is enforced to hide difficult facts about human biodiversity.

1. The Race-IQ gap, which we know is mostly genetic, is entirely due to structural racism because we say it is.
2. There is no difference between Black vesus non-Black rates of criminal violence because we say there isn’t (even though we know that this is lie by simply consulting crime statistics).
3. Sub-Saharan African societies developed written culture and modern technology to the same level as any other regions because we say they did (totally and obviously false).
4. Cleopatra, whom we know was of European ancestry, is actually of sub-Saharan ancestry because we say she was.

Proudly lying is the new fashion accessory. What a terrible shame to see the NYTimes flushed down the toilet of dishonesty like this. Can it be saved?

but she kicked a lot of ass in the meantime which makes her black too.

I can handle that. What bothers me (disclaimer: everything bothers me, according to the curbside diagnosis by a shrink) is when the casting decision is she was a superb scholar, which makes her black.

That’s a very cute, Happy Days white chick nose, and a very proper white supremacist name, Edith Gwendolyn Nally. Understandable that you need to do some woke virtue signaling to atone.

Erin Moran
American actress (1960-2017)

Cleopatra was black.

You bet.

Just like that earlier hot Egyptian queen, Nefertiti.

Wait — Nefertiti’s bust shows her as a white woman. Must have been an ancient case of appropriation.

Cleo’s parents may have been siblings, half-siblings, or cousins, but her paternal grandmother was unknown and her father illegitimate. So it appears that by her time, the strict sibling-pairing had loosened and the genes “aired out” (to use Steve’s phrase) a bit.

On the subject of strange genealogy, last week in the missus’s home county a drunk driver panicked and shot dead the 29-year-old officer who had stopped him, escaping and eventually taking his own life. Deep in the dozens of testimonials published, only one mention of family was made– the officer “leaves a wife… and infant son”.

That leaves open the question whether this poor child has any natural parents left. We don’t know if the officer or “her wife” gave birth to the boy. The obituary is no help.

“Loud Librarians”

Also see from The Music Man: Marion [Barry] the totalitarian librarian. See also Black Egyptians burning down the Library of Alexandria, Minnesota.

“yapping Anubis” -From BS Eliot’s Marina del Oswald: “Those who sharpen the tooth of the Snoop Dog, meaning Death…”

Some have argued that Cleopatra was culturally Mexican because incest (HT Ann Coulter)

In the credits to this “black Cleopatra” film, I’m curious, do they call her assistants “slaves” or “enslaved people?”

You’re still reading the New York Times?!

That’s not what I call taking it easy.

Cleopatra was culturally Black.

So she drank malt liquor and talked in movie theaters? WTF is “culturally black” supposed to mean for a Greek-speaking queen who lived 2,000 years before American “black culture” even existed?

But Rachel Dolezal is a loser

….Poor Rachel ,if she had just called herself a dude maybe she could have knocked Anhueser -Busch back ten billion.

This is another case of liberal women using race when what they really want to talk about is sex. By this standard, somebody like Mata Hari, for example, would also be “culturally black”.

OT

New York City Is Set to Ban Weight Discrimination
The City Council approved a bill on Thursday to include weight on a list of characteristics protected against discrimination, offering protections in employment and housing.

And height, also.

This law is for employment and housing. Will hate speech and hate crime status follow? Get an extra five years for pick-pocketing a fat person?

I can understand housing, but you kind of want to hire who you want to hire, exclusive of real discrimination. And there’s no upper limit. You cannot discriminate against BMI 50?

It’s nation time:
Who Will Survive America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEh6kfpvso&pp=ygUld2hvIHdpbGwgc3Vydml2ZSBhbWVyaWNhIGFtaXJpIGJhcmFrYQ%3D%3D

WTF

First day at the job and I’m already loving it pic.twitter.com/IdeToW21fl

— Not Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaccarina) May 12, 2023

Off topic

The Irish Times got tricked into publishing a fake article written by AI

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-times-removes-article-suggesting-fake-tan-is-racist-amid-suggestion-it-was-ai-generated/a289268428.html

You need the read the wisdom of Jada Pinkett-Smith or get slapped by her husband, Will Smith, you bigots!

“too” not “to”

Surpised they used BC and not the noxious BCE.

OT please keep posting Steve, in you absence I have been reading Andrew Anglin and fear he may be radicalising me!

It’s things like this that put a positive light on the browning of America, the rise of a multipolar world, and the end of what might be called an American cultural center or consensus.

Yes, westernized elites from South Asian, Middle East, and Hispanic backgrounds repeat what they learned from white snobs, but eventually there hits a critical mass of their people and it stops. The lawsuit about this would not have happened in the 1990’s. Arabs would have gone along to get along back then. Likewise, the Muslim apologetics from Indian-American elites is running into the face of a broader, Hindutva-friendly diaspora.

Blacks, particularly talented tenth types, do realize how good they had it in a WASP and Ashkenazi-led America, but that gravy train is going to stop in about 10-20 years. This is just the shrill screams of denial as the American century comes to a close. In 20 years time, there will be no more movies like Glory being made.

I could be wrong, who knows?

In 2000 years, it will be fund to see the same discussion about Elon Musk: A successful entrepreneur and builder of a business empire, a visionary coming from Africa, he must be black.
On the other hand, he left so many kids that the future scientists will be able to reproduce his genome….

Helen of Troy was black too, don’t you know.

Black Cleopatra. Queen Charlotte,Anne Boleyn, Heathcliff and various lords and ladies in Bridgerton and Mr Malcolm’s List make these movies unwatchable because you can never suspend your disbelief.They look ridiculous.

Steve, you really need an editor. Those last few paragraphs have more typos than usual.

Next week the NYT will earnestly tell us that Julius Caesar was a Crip, and his assassins were Bloods.

Roman poet Propertius famously called Cleopatra a whore queen (meretrix regina)

Dr. Haley argues that Cleopatra’s experience was part of a history of oppression of Black women.

If being called a ho makes one black, I’m worried about Ivanhoe.

American wokeness is causing a huge anti-America, anti-black and anti-jewish backlash that is already affecting major geopolitical events. An entire generation of conservative young people from every culture in the world now see the aforementioned trifecta the font of evil. This will have powerful consequences for geopolitics down the line.

Jews are using blacks as a golem to attack everyone else and everyone else knows it. Massive blowback is coming.

RIP Twitter.

Elon’s time a the helm will be remembered as a brief Prague Spring before totalitarianism overcame it completely.

*I know it ‘s a parody tweet, but like most parody nowadays, it will be real soon.

Oh? You know,with a couple of drinks…

Is there any point in refuting this stuff?

It’s not like they’re gonna say, “Oh whoops, everything we believe is based on lies!”

Seems to me that these endless attempts to insert black Africans into western history only reflect the burning shame that these people must still feel about being black. To them, the only history that has any value is western history, so they must somehow fit their benighted ancestors into our narrative so they can “feel good” about themselves. What’s so wrong about celebrating their forebears for who they were, for the cultures they developed to survive conditions unique to Africa? I come from a long line of anonymous but doubtlessly oppressed European and British peasants – I don’t need to pretend I am related to the bloody King of England to respect them or myself.

Once schools become de facto day care centers, the following is inevitable:

“Libraries” where the majority of patrons are not reading books.

“Book stores” that sell more baubles and trinkets than books.

Remind me again what great insights or productivity or … anything we have gained with this “women can do anything men can do better” idea and program?

The main civilization critical/destroying issue before us is the minoritarianism and the immivasion. But I think any effort to save the West–ex. separate nations from the rainbows–needs to include a full and complete de-programming of this “you go girl!” nonsense and a full and complete understanding of sexual dimorphism.

The in the bottom photo is kinda cute. Which one is it–Nally or Gilber?

In a word: “No.”

Example #1,234,986 of why we need separate communities.

If you have your own community, you don’t have to deal with these annoying people, at least not as often.

Whites (or the various white subgroups) need to wake up to fact that America, its culture and its institutions, are no longer theirs. We either accept the new America where we are a despised and persecuted minority or we form our own communities where we’re reasonably free.

We’ll never get rid of people like these women in New America, but you can keep them out of your community.

In a word: “No.”

And for the reason given.

If it gets sloppy enough it may convince people to the other side because they can smell the BS. But I am hardly an expert here.

Hey, hey, hey, this is library!

Was that YOU, Twinkie?!

OK, seriously, we are very lucky not to have a library system run by Washington Post readers. OTOH, we don’t stay that long – we put things on hold via the website, then pick them up – friendly people who know us by face are at the local branch.

Cleopatra was black. You may even have evidence to the contrary. But would it … [hey, watch it, Citizen. You’re skating on some thing ice here.] … who thinks Cleopatra must have been black because reasons.

Cleopatra was black.

Yes, and 2 + 2 = 5. You have learned to love Big Fat-Assed Sister.

This is what you get when the academy becomes dominated by females. You get sophistry and idiocy and childish stupidity and an emphasis on emotions and on fitting in, not to mention cattiness. Women are not scholars or intellectuals, period. I have met a few women who were competent teachers, but none were intellectuals.

Females have made zero contributions to the advancement of human knowledge — not to powered flight, radio, television, computing, mathematics, metallurgy, engineering, biology, physics — nothing. It has all been men. (Yes, before you mention Madam Curie, the ONE exception does not disprove the rule).

I worked in colleges and universities with supposedly “educated” females. There is nothing, literally nothing of value any of them had to offer.

You can tell Steve is on vacation because of all the typos.

Just keep making data-laden arguments to the anti-white Left because that’s totally going to work!

You don’t argue against a religion (anti-whitism in this case), you just expose it for it is.

The worst offenders are white. The Stuff White People Like crowd, the hipsters and assorted others. They have no loyalty to white people. In fact, I doubt they have much loyalty to their own families. They may send them to a nice school but that’s because they treat their kids as ornaments that they wish to brag on to others for social status points.

Contrary to what Steve and a lot of people think, these white liberals are a moral repulsive and even sociopathic crowd. They aren’t “nice” guys even if they superficially act that way. Morally good people aren’t always “nice”.

I’m sure the Mean White Ladies that traumatize white children in school love this kind of thing. Anyone who had to sit through these teachers know they get off on harming white children, especially the boys.

Of course not. Old America is parrot dead. CivNat whites lost control of the country’s commanding heights a generation or two ago.

Institutions are downstream from culture which is downstream from biology. Change the people, and you change everything.

Despite what people like Steve, Michael Anton and other CivNats believe, Enlightenment ideals embodied in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence are not “natural” rights ingrained in all peoples.

Those ideals were designed by and for a specific group of people – Anglo-American men – at a specific time. Those ideals were natural only to them.

That’s what Steve can’t understand. He believes that the Founding Fathers’ principles are universal and good, so everyone will adopt them if we can just show them how great those principles are.

Steve is Yankee missionary at heart. He must save the foreign heathen and bring them into the flock – whether they want it or not. But this time, the foreign heathen have moved into town and taken over, so they don’t have to listen to missionary Steve.

CNBC yesterday… two female hosts were discussing how more generous maternal leave was making things *worse* for career women by allowing them to stay home longer, thereby giving their male counterparts an advantage by actually being at work and getting things done.

Their solution? Longer and potentially *mandatory* paternal leave to even out the work absences. It’s hard for me to imagine the delusion that makes that seem like a reasonable and practical way to “level the playing field” (an impossible task).

You’re still reading the New York Times?!

That’s not what I call taking it easy

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When the NYT serves up iSteve content as juicy as this, he can’t resist.

Plus, his comments almost wrote themselves.

It meant that people kept asking to touch her hair.

NYT piece w/o paywall here:

https://archive.is/pYTGd

And here’s a passage from the piece that Steve did not quote, but which I think is quite remarkable:

Dr. Haley has said that she was struck by the experience, early in her life and career, of encountering Black American communities that seemed to view Cleopatra as one of their own. Building on that experience, Dr. Haley’s academic work on Cleopatra adopts a more complex criterion for racial identification than skin color alone. “When we say, in general, that the ancient Egyptians were Black and, more specifically, that Cleopatra was Black,” Dr. Haley wrote, “we claim them as part of a culture and history that has known oppression and triumph, exploitation and survival.”

[Ergo, if blacks want you to count as black, then you count as black, at least if you’re not around anymore to object.]

Hey, hey, hey, this is library!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/05/12/noisy-library-defense-essay/

It’s okay for libraries to be loud! Take it from me, a librarian.

Twinkie, I think your noisy library is is a pretty nice little micro example of the overall illogic/destruction of minoritarianism.

The traditional Anglo library norm was “quiet”–oriented for the needs/mentality of the actual serious scholar–a guy.

But this norm doesn’t fit the personality/needs of some other types of people–primarily blacks who are “non-quiet” and to a lesser extent young women who are not big into “thought” and feel a deep need to chat.

Do those people get to blow up the traditional Anglo library norm? Well under minoritarianism … yes! Yes they do. That white guy norm is “oppressing” them.

At root any one community/society can only have one set of shared public norms–libraries, streets, subways, airplanes, offices, restaurants, shopping malls, movie theatres, parks, swimming pools … And for a civilization to survive and reproduce itself those must be the norms of the majority, that create and maintain the civilization with those norms. Else–by definition–that civilization is gone, to be replaced by another.

When I got my 23andMe results, it told me not only that I was white but exactly where my ancestors came from in Europe, and its results corresponded exactly with my family’s oral history.

It strikes that one problem with the black American community is a lack of resolution about what it means to come from Africa.

Of course, promoting this knowledge presents the problem of whether black Americans can really understand or cope with it. Nevertheless, from a political perspective, promoting genetic specificity and accuracy among “blacks” would be beneficial.

Doesn’t all this ludicrous blackwashing of history naturally beg the question of modern-day blacks, “Ok…so what have you done lately?” Did evil YT somehow not only make off with the historical record to erase the prominent place of genius blacks throughout recorded time, but also manage to dumb them down to the point that they are nought but useless parasites in the modern technological world?

If you used to be kangz, why ain’t you kangz no mo’? Ancient White savages stole your mojo and somehow stripped you of those 40 missing IQ points? Shot your flying pyramids out of the skies with their primitive spears? Reduced you to babbling in profanity-laced baby talk and screeching about how maff is raciss?

Don’t look now, Shit’avious, but it ain’t just your filthy undershorts that’s hangin’ out.

So instead of Liz Taylor they should have cast … Ruby Dee? Barbara McNair? Diahann Carroll?

On the other hand, the actor who plays Julius Caesar looks very much like his statues. Roman legionnaires could have been like that. The court and the people are almost like contemporary Sudanese. It is entertainment pretending to be history. Let them enjoy the phantasy.

I like to think this stuff is self-refuting. It is all protesting too much; and we get gems like this: there is no meaningful sense in which she… would have identified as white.

But then, cults can last a long, long time.

Actually, cross-chronological black culture is believable from a Race Realist perspective. If blacks are and have been lower IQ and show and have shown certain psychological profiles, we can expect them to express a certain “blackness” across time.

Of course, this raises the question of how much “blacks” are one thing or many things.

Nevertheless, it is not totally insane to suggest that some African of centuries ago was “culturally black”…. unless we know that they were not actually black!!!!

If it’s authentic portrayals of African leaders you want, forget Elizabeth Taylor, think Johnny Weissmuller and the Tarzan films. These were ground-breaking in their use of genuine negroes (no blackface here) as tribal chiefs and witch doctors. Granted, there were sporadic instances of spear-throwing and pot-boiling, but the real bad guys were invariably pencil-moustachioed white guys looking to misappropriate ivory, gold or diamonds.

Seriously. I don’t know how anyone with an IQ above room temperature can bear to read this crap, but yet Steve does so day in and day out, keeping us informed of the nonsense coming out of the normiesphere like some sort of reverse Prometheus. He should be living like a prince for his services, instead of working out of a closet and driving second-hand gangster mobiles.

I am of the opinion that if the new, separated nation were serious, it would have to reset universal suffrage back to its original form–white, land-owning men only. Then we can tweak it from there via careful deliberation. But certainly, women should never again be allowed into politics, ever.

I mean, Aristophanes saw this coming before Christ. All of our modern day experiments with women in politics have proven him correct. We gave it the good old college try, but the misogynists were ultimately right. Time to eat crow, take the L, and set things right.

Back before Google locked down the algorithm, one of the prompts for “Why are black people so …” was “Why are black people so loud?”

What is the problem, here? It is also well-known that Queen Consort Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz was black. In fact, most of the European royal houses were black, a fact that has been hidden from us until quite recently. Long live Harry the Spare, the new Black Prince. And is it not time for an African Pope or two? Just be careful to make them friendly to intersectionality.

Well, blacks are loud. It’s one of their more indisputable characteristics.

A black library would logically be a much louder library.

How long until we see the Tucker Carlson version of that suspension?

It Makes Us Feel Good to Say She Was Black

This is pretty much the rationale for every single thing we say and do with regard to blacks. At this point, society is almost totally disconnected from reality on anything to do with black people, and it’s getting worse not better. Plan accordingly.

Well, it’s not as if anyone is supposed to be studying any more. Anyone “we” care about, I mean.

Studying is supremacist, just like merit and competence. Hard work? Ha! We’re going to be much better off without these evil things.

But where do those norms come from?

Institutions (in this case a library) are downstream from culture (not being loud in a public place that’s not a ballgame) which is downstream from biology (Anglo-Americans and, thankfully, most other Europeans).

Change the people, and you change everything.

In a sense, those people saying that forcing black people to act like whites oppresses them are correct. You are imposing a culture on them, just as they are imposing their culture (and thus biology) on you by being loud in a library.

This is why colorblind civic nationalism will never work. It’s literally unnatural and nature always wins, even if it takes some time.

I liked the part where Coach Reartep III had to lash all the Nubians.

The reason I will be voting for DeSantis in the primary is he’s the first and only GOP governor who is doing something concrete about the incredibly offensive fact that public universities are funding full time white-hate propagandists like this.

“University of Missouri” “Mississippi State”. Those are blood-red states and the tenth-tier GOP idiots running them let this go on and on. Both these women appear to have been hired recently!

Imagine for a moment who DeSantis would appoint to power positions in DC given his appointment of Chris Rufo to run a Florida public university. Trump, meanwhile, put ditzy heiress Betsy DeVos in charge of the Department of Education, and she was actually worse than Obama in funneling federal money to scammy trade schools.

Fear of a Black Cleopatra

One of the tells of how bogus an ideology is how much its propaganda has to straw man the opposition.

We see it again and again and again–“homophobia”, “xenophobia”, “islamophobia”. Opposition to homosexual propaganda and normalization is just that. “Homoaversion” or “homodisgust” might be accurate. But mostly just “prizes normal healthy sexuality and sexual dimorphism”. And the later two of course just mean “want to preserve our own community/nation with our traditional culture and norms”.

There is, of course, no “fear of a black Cleopatra” just as there is no fear of chess playing gorillas. The whole idea is just bogus and the insistence on it annoying.

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If there’s a psychological element to analyze it is “why do blacks–especially black women–insist on pretending non-black stuff is theirs?” Cleopatra, Bridgerton

I think the answer is straightforward: because blacks have created nothing interesting themselves.

You don’t see Chinese claiming say George Washington is Chinese. The other actual civilizations–China, India, Persia, etc.–while wildly overshadowed by the breakout of Western Civilization the past 500 years–have their own rich cultures with their own mythology, literature, music, art, science, invention and cities and civilization … existing from antiquity. Blacks in contrast …

‘ …. identified as white ….. ‘.

Sorry, but there is an ancient Greek term, contemporary with Cleopatra, and used by the ancient Greek authors to describe black Africans. They were called ‘Ethiopians’. This was before the contemporary nation of that name ever existed.
‘Ethiopian’ in Greek simply means ‘one of burnt visage’. Hence, a demarcation in the ancient Greek mind existed between black and non black (white?) types of mankind.

Won’t this bother the homeless trying to get some sleep? or the perverts surfing the internet for porn?

The woke crowd think we must do our best to understand other cultures on their own terms. It’s racist to worry about child marriage, female genital cutting, witch murders, and Mauritanian slavery, bigot.

But understanding prior periods of history on their own terms is forbidden. For example, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, despite their manifest greatness, must be repudiated.

How about understanding Cleopatra within her cultural context. Was she culturally black? Did she live in similar conditions, have similar ideas and attitudes, have a similar personality structure as American black women in 2023?

It would be equally absurd to think of her as culturally white, meaning a person of any ethnicity who shares the values of enlightened western civilization (the attack on “whiteness” is demonstrably not genetic but an attack on values). She lived in utterly different circumstances.

Thinking about how to respond to these idiots makes me feel idiotic. Maybe humiliation is the point of their militant fraudulence.

So much like Oprah and Michelle!

The reason I will be voting for DeSantis in the primary is he’s the first and only GOP governor who is doing something concrete about the incredibly offensive fact that public universities are funding full time white-hate propagandists like this.

DeSantis is a politician not a savior.

But as a politician … beats the hell out of what the Republicans have had on offer for years. Whenever this comes up socially with my neighbors/friends here, I’ve said voting for DeSantis in 2018 was the most bang for the buck of any vote I’ve ever cast. And it gets universal consent. How we sailed through the pandemic–a month of feeling-it-out bogosity, then sanity (kids back in school in the fall)–compared to the they-just-won’t-stop-the-beating nonsense that went on and on in the blue states, just day and night, stunning.

DeSantis is smart, and articulate–can actually explain his ideas/arguments–and actually fights and as you note, appoints some actually competent people who try to get stuff done.

Trump … not so much.

Trump had a real opportunity after office to be a driver of the Republicans becoming a real nationalist populist party. Just say “I’m not planning on running–as long as the Republicans step up to the plate and offer real MAGA candidates who will fight for the interests of Americans. I’m going to get out there and campaign and fight for every MAGA candidate. And make sure we have leaders who will actually fight for the American people and nation.”

But then that would be about the American people and not Donald J. Trump.

The big-nosed “Berlin Cleopatra” looks kinda Jewish to me.

Relatedly, Mary Lefkowitz spent 20 years as the leading academic refuter of Black Egypt and Black Ancient Greece lies, and later wrote a book about the nasty reprisals she suffered from black professors.
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Lefkowitz earned her B.A. from Wellesley College in 1957, Phi Beta Kappa with honors in Greek, and received her Ph.D. in Classical Philology from Radcliffe College (now part of Harvard University) in 1961. She returned to Wellesley College in 1959 as an instructor in Greek.

The pinnacle of Mary Lefkowitz’s controversy surrounding Afrocentrism in the classics took form in her years-long scholarly debate with Martin Bernal. Bernal is the author of Black Athena: The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilization, a work that argues the deep influence of Egyptian (and therefore African) influence on Greek culture, language, and society. The claims that Martin Bernal argues in his text alarmed Lefkowitz to such an extreme that she wrote two texts. The first, Black Athena: Revisited, is a collection of essays edited by Lefkowitz that responds directly to Bernal’s work with strong criticism. The second, Not Out of Africa: How Afrocentrism Became an Excuse to Teach Myth As History, is a text devoted to Lefkowitz’s anti-Afrocentrism argument, tying in her arguments against Bernal.

She was attacked in newsletters from the Wellesley Africana Studies Department by her colleague Tony Martin, which turned into a rancorous, personal conflict with anti-Semitic elements. Martin stated in May 1994 at Cornell University that “Black people should interpret their own reality. . . . Jews have been in the forefront of efforts to thwart the interpretation of our own history.”

In another incident described in her book, Yosef A. A. Ben-Jochannan, the author of Africa: The Mother of Western Civilization, gave the Martin Luther King lecture at Wellesley in 1993. Lefkowitz attended this lecture with her husband, Sir Hugh Lloyd-Jones. In that lecture, Ben-Jochannan stated that Aristotle stole his philosophy from the Library of Alexandria, Egypt. During the question and answer session following the lecture, Lefkowitz asked Ben-Jochannan, “How would that have been possible, when the library was not built until after his death?” Ben-Jochannan replied that the dates were uncertain. Sir Hugh responded, “Rubbish!” Lefkowitz writes that Ben-Jochannan proceeded to tell those present that “they could and should believe what black instructors told them” and “that although they might think that Jews were all ‘hook-nosed and sallow faced,’ there were other Jews who looked like himself.”

It’s all Greek to me.

Blacks have the Queen of Sheba and the Nubian Dynasty in Ancient Egypt, who actually existed and looked black.

The moment I saw that she was a professor of philosophy, I knew she was an affirmative action hire. You can immediately tell, because such a hire will never simply get a job in “philosophy.” For years, it was “philosophy/women’s studies.” Now, apparently, it’s Philosophy/Race, Ethnic, and Gender Studies.

(All but one of the females I went to grad school with in philosophy got jobs in “philosophy/women’s studies,” and they were all nullities. Two-thirds of my Ph.D. classmates were men (app. 67/100), but two-thirds of the ones who got tenure-track jobs were females.) One had a hobby horse of “collage.” So, she gave a talk in our aesthetics class on “collage,” but without ever defining or explaining the term she was supposedly talking about. The prof asked her, “What do you mean by ‘collage’?” She got aggressive: “What do you mean, what do I mean by ‘montage’?!” He backed off. Already in 1986, a full prof could get hit with a sexual harassment attack simply for doing his job. Her? She got a cheap ph.d., a tenure-track position in philosophy/women’s studies, and has been a prof phoning it in for 30 years now. As for the men, very few got anything better than adjunct work. In that same class in aesthetics, I gave a talk on “The Unity of the Late Collingwood’s Philosophy,” including his The Principles of Art. The same girl sat with her clique afterwards, and asked nobody in particular of my paper, “What was that all about?” I responded, “What do you mean, ‘What was that all about?!’” That shut her up. Feminazis hate the life of the mind. She had just heard me talk about how the central concept of Collingwood’s aesthetics, the “total imaginative experience,” was also central to his psychology for understanding history. But she’d heard nothing.)

https://www.gwennally.com/

“I am an Assistant Professor of Philosophy and an Associate Faculty member in the Classics Program and the Race, Ethnic, and Gender Studies Department at the University of Missouri, Kansas City.

“I received my Ph.D. in Philosophy from the University of Virginia in 2014, and have also held positions at the University of Richmond (2014-15) and Skidmore College (2015-16).

“My research focuses on ancient Greek philosophy, the history of ideas, the philosophy of love, sex, and gender, feminist philosophy, epistemology, and the philosophy of race (especially in Greco-Roman sources).

“I am at work on a coedited volume, Believing Ancient Women: Feminist Epistemologies for Greece and Rome (under contract with the Intersectionality in Classical Antiquity Series at Edinburgh University Press), which deploys recent feminist epistemological frameworks to critically reinterpret Greek and Roman literary, philosophical, and material sources.

“I regularly teach courses on ancient Greek philosophy, social and political philosophy, feminist philosophy, philosophy of love, sex, and gender, and reproductive ethics. I have recently been developing a course on the philosophy of technology, and have been expanding my ancient philosophy course to include sources from across the ancient Mediterranean world.”

I mean, I’m just gonna say what we’re all thinkin–Greeks ain’t that white, amirite?

WTF

First day at the job and I’m already loving it pic.twitter.com/IdeToW21fl

— Not Linda Yaccarino (@lindayaccarina) May 12, 2023

Not WTF.

WEF!

https://www.weforum.org/people/linda-yaccarino

https://www.outkick.com/new-twitter-ceo-linda-yaccarino-is-a-vaccine-pushing-pro-mask-wearing-wef-globalist/

But keep thinking that Elon “Brain Chip” Musk is on your side – the cool billionaire oligarch who is a tribune of the people.

The piece is defensive, and they must be seeking to build up some woke cred to help safeguard their careers.

It won’t help them if they say or write the wrong thing. They can be watsoned as quick as anyone else.

Elon exhibiting his gallows humour. Fearing its time-suck power I decided against signing up. But I do appreciate Twitter and its ability to provide a platform for peeps to express themselves in text and images.

The corporatist managerial hag assigned to run the company speaks of Elon’s own role in the power system: Howard Hughes. Like HH, Elon has a juicy collection of global infrastructure from which all sorts of skullduggery can be launched. My warning to Elon/Howard: Stay away from drugs. A chemical addiction will bring the Mormon candymen into your life whilst you decay in the penthouse suite at the Desert Inn with eyes gone blurry from the candy and the endless loop of Gene Scott and Ice Station Zebra.

Will Ptolemy Smith: KEEP MY WIFE’S NAME OUT OF YOUR SUB-SAHARAN MOUTH!

Steve’s on vacation? For how long? There are three five gallon tubs of egg salad waiting for him at his post office. (I’m worried about the mayonnaise)

She certainly wouldn’t have identified as sub-Saharan, but that’s not the point. The point is she was a beautiful and strong African queen, which means she was black.

How long until afro-centrists start claiming that 18 century German-born queens of England were actually black?

After all, it’s even been on television, so it must be true, huh?

When you’re dealing with the ancients, there’s enough ambiguity to allow this interpretation: that she was black.

Ask yourself this, how do you know, for sure, that she wasn’t black?

She probably, almost certainly was white, but we can’t be close to 100% sure of this.

“The main civilization critical/destroying issue before us is the minoritarianism and the immivasion. But I think any effort to save the West–ex. separate nations from the rainbows–needs to include a full and complete de-programming of this ‘you go girl!’”

That “you go girl!” is what allows everything else destroying our country to do so. Because there is no destructive movement in the West that does not enjoy the support of “empowered” leftist women, black or white. They get it wrong every single time. Every. Single. Time.

They can’t be stopped. But my hope is they can be contained.

You’re still reading the New York Times?!

That’s not what I call taking it easy.

Heh. I suspect on the Right there’s two extremes to this. One Wall Street Journal editorial writer said he’d read the NYT on his commuter train in from New Jersey and by the time he arrived he was properly angry to write some really good copy.

At the other end, surely by now it’s become so ludicrous the right sort of person can read it for laughs, but here also as ammo for the copy he’s going to write.

The Fringe doesn’t want to read or hear the word “normal”, because it would imply that they aren’t–and, of course, they’re right! End of story? Absolutely–in a sane, reasonable society. Unfortunately, we don’t live in a sane, reasonable society. We live in a society that has gone totally bonkers after having handed the megaphone over to people for whom squaring the circle is a way of life.

Haven’t soiled my hands with a copy of the Gray Hag in well over twenty years.

Well, Cleopatra married her brother (sibling marriage was the Egyptian leadership custom at the time) just like Somalian born US Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.

So Omar and Cleo have that in common. Cleo was African but not sub Saharan African.

She slept around with other powerful men, just like Beyonce, so there’s that cultural similarity with an African descendant person.

Cleo died by poison, like many American black women. Though by a snake bite, not fentanyl or heroin.

She had illegitimate children by Julius Caesar, like most American black mothers do, though not by him of course..

So there’s that evidence.

However actual Egyptians are pretty racist (I’ve been there). To them “African” okay but “African Negro” are not the same thing.

Images of Cleopatra do not depict her with an “Afro” hairstyle or kinky hair.

Why do contemporary Woke cultural appropriators demand that we accept their fairy tale view of ancient history? They do this with no apology or explanation other than such acts selfishly make them feel better about themselves. Pathetic.

Genghis Khan wasn’t German either…

But I think any effort to save the West–ex. separate nations from the rainbows–needs to include a full and complete de-programming of this “you go girl!” nonsense and a full and complete understanding of sexual dimorphism.

The breakup of the U.S. becomes more likely as the productive parts of the population flee from woke leftist dominated blue states and concentrate in red states.

Blue state governors like Newsom or Cuomo have a reverse Midas touch. Newly released IRS data show that in 2020 California and New York together lost 300,000 households and 53 billion dollars in Adjusted Gross Income. Other big losers were the blue states Illinois, Massachusetts, and New Jersey. The biggest winner from this was Republican run Florida. Florida gained 39 billion dollars in AGI in 2020. The second biggest winner was Republican run Texas, gaining 11 billion dollars in AGI that year.

A main cause of this was the high taxes in blue states. According to the Tax Foundation, the ten states with the highest out migration levels had an average of the 39th most taxpayer-friendly tax system. The ten states they were most likely to move to averaged the sixteenth most taxpayer friendly system. Other big factors in people leaving blue states were the overly harsh Covid lockdowns they imposed and the insane crime policies and pandering to blacks they adopted which Steve Sailer regularly discusses here. The only thing woke leftists are good at is strangling the goose that lays the golden eggs.

“The history of ideas” eh?

The history of ideas!!! Jesus, give me strength.

Unless dragooned inside a library by school teachers, you rarely see any blacks in an actual reading library.

Well, some of the homeless bathroom users or chair sleepers are black. So a few.

I’m sure the racial stats on users of library cards would be very revealing. Based on reported reading scores from large urban areas, heavily black, many can’t even read.

So I guess if you can’t read in a library and the computers are all being used, blacks will just talk loudly, rap, dance and annoy everyone else.

Sadly, going to a library or even reading is looked down upon in the ‘hood as ‘acting White.’

Blacks who live in middle/upper class neighborhoods where their dysfunctional culture isn’t predominant are the exceptions to this. Or African black immigrants.

[…] “empowered” leftist women, black or white … can’t be stopped.

The mass graves of the 20th Century say differently.

That’s one of the biggest problems we’re facing if we want to reform our existing society instead of for example letting it all crash (which history suggests is fairly unlikely) and build a new one. There’s large sets of people who are net negatives, who if left alone will just continue to tear down anything good.

Some can be salvaged, and maybe this is more true for women. With sufficiently serious threats others who have value, think of healthcare workers for example, can in theory be kept in their lane. But there’s large fractions, in absolute numbers millions of people who are entirely incompatible with a functioning (gentile) civilization. In this case there’s the trope of substituting cats for children so they aren’t even contributing members of the next generation (some do help with nephews and nieces), collectively their innate fundamental duty.

Yeah, think about that word ‘duty‘ for a bit, and how alien it is to Clown World except in the sense of a duty to destroy.

These people must be physically removed from our society one way or another. Exile/aliyah, Coventry in the Heinlein short story sense, concentration camps, gulags, mass graves, the methods don’t really matter except to what they do to the people implementing the policy, going along with it, etc. which is actually a very big thing. But ultimate not compared to achieving physical separation so we and our children can have normal enough lives without their predations, the latest big one “the American Tradition of Poisoning, Mutilating, and Sterilizing Children,” theirs’ and others’.

This is a implacably harsh thing to contemplate let alone accept and most are I’m pretty sure incapable of it as things stand today. Even harder when we’re talking about women in a completely broken “market” for marriage, plus we all have or had our mothers, whether or not they were monsters. Plenty of us sisters as well. But I don’t think there’s any escaping it, actively or by default.

(As for fertility, in theory those who actually reproduce will eventually inherit their societies … if they weren’t getting swamped by hordes of immvaders, as I recall AnotherDat pointing out.)

Egypt to make its own documentary on Queen Cleopatra in response to Netflix’s historical revisionism.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2023/05/09/egypt-queen-cleopatra-netflix/

Is this GPTSteve?

I commented,
[…] “empowered” leftist women, black or white … can’t be stopped.”

And That Would Be Telling replied, “The mass graves of the 20th Century say differently.”

I’m sorry I wasn’t clearer. I say what I mean but forget to say things which, to me, are a given.

I should have said, “‘Empowered’ leftist women, black or white, can’t be stopped without the use of force.”

We are rapidly reaching the point at which some of us will think, “So be it, then. By any means necessary will work if that’s the only option to rid our society of this destructive, senseless lunacy.”

I personally believe such women are so invested in their arrogant delusions that they cannot be divested of them.

Let’s hope that Steve is getting all the “healthful exercise in the fresh sea breezes” that he needs.

Now is a good time to tell him how much we appreciate his work.

Happy Mother’s Day, Steve!

This sort of bankrupt narrative-cope seems to have a fairly long history. Ellul wrote the following nearly half a century ago.

Betrayal of the West:

There was a Nubian civilization, obviously negroid, and arguably worthy of pride. Quite a far remove from Atlanta. About as silly as me taking credit for Newton. But why can’t blacks more legitimately celebrate just that?

A Nubian dynasty ruled Egypt from about 712 BC to 653 BC. As with many conquests, it was a thin stratum ruling over native masses. Nubians were replaced by a native dynasty, who were replaced by a Persian dynasty, who were replaced by several native dynasties, who were replaced by a Persian dynasty…skipping some centuries…who were replaced by the Ptolemaic Dynasty from 305 BC to 30BC that had been originated by a general from Alexander the Great’s army.

Macedonian-Americans rebel! Stand up for yourselves! Reclaim your heritage!

The abuse of Cleopatra’s ethnicity exemplifies what I call the Incongruous Negro Phenomenon. A Negro appears where one would least expect him.

Hollywood used to annoyingly portray most smart scientists as nerdish Jews. Now they are almost uniformly black. Cal Tech and MIT have suddenly become about half Thomas Sowells and Glenn Lourys but without their good ideas.

Cleopatra was black? Turn it off. Heimdall was black? Turn it off. Achilles was black? Turn it off. Roman soldiers in Britain were black? Turn it off. David Copperfield was Hindu? Turn it off.

Dumping Somalis in Minneapolis?

Kamala Harris?

Affirmative Action?

If you tell an Ethopian he’s “black”, he might punch you in the face. Ethiopians do not consider themselves black. Genetically, Ethiopians are closer to Caucasians and do not share DNA with Bantus.

The whole thing is too weird for words.

The actual facts are that Cleopatra (philology: look at her damn name, Cornell West!) was a Greco-Persian white chick who slept around with a bunch of Italian-Europeans who proceeded to conquer her country, and she didn’t fight back. Why is this something that joggers want to be proud of? Well, they got nothing else, I guess; but I could say the same thing as an Irishman too, and I’m not walking around squawking about it.

And no, sorry joggers, the Egyptians were not black, and they didn’t think they lived in a place called Africa (a Roman term), they thought they lived in Kemet, the Two Kingdoms, which was good enough for them. And they did in fact influence Greek culture, just not in the way that Kwazi Zim-Zab or whatever his name is, thinks that they did. Who wouldn’t influence all the people around them, if you had an ancient and powerful culture, but you couldn’t do sculpture or philosophy all that well? And again, sorry, not Bantus, and not even Africans as we think about it now.

Put it this way: the Egyptians knew the Pythagorean relationship, not the theory (the practical mathematical thing) but they knew it from long experience in land management, but they couldn’t prove it. The Greeks learned how to prove it.

Although Liz Taylor’s political tour de force in the movie is pretty amazing.

Unless dragooned inside a library by school teachers, you rarely see any blacks in an actual reading library.

I used to regularly use the library of a nearby Ivy League university. There was a public area which I could enter without having to show a university ID and in it there were computer terminals that allowed you to access private data bases like JStor as well as numerous specialized digitized newspaper and journal archives. I was doing research at the time and this was a great resource until the local black teens realized that they could use these terminals to look at rap videos, World Star Hiphop, etc. You were only supposed to use a terminal for an hour, but the security guard would come over to a teen who was monopolizing a terminal, stand next to him with a disapproving look which the teen would ignore, and then walk away, understanding that his job would be forfeit should he create an unpleasant incident. Eventually the university solved the problem by completely closing the library to the public.

Cal Tech and MIT have suddenly become about half Thomas Sowells and Glenn Lourys but without their good ideas.

What were those “good ideas”–marrying White women?

The great Nicholas Stix. Where have you been? Used to enjoy reading your stuff back in the old days. You should be a regular here.

Blacks have the Queen of Sheba and the Nubian Dynasty in Ancient Egypt, who actually existed and looked black.

I’m not any kind of biblical or ancient history scholar. But my guess is whoever was behind the “Queen of Sheba” legend, would look like an Arab–maybe a current Yemeni–not even an Ethiopean, much less very “black” in the American sense. But who knows.

The Kushites who took over Egypt–and they seem to have run it as Egypt, language, culture, they didn’t build that civilization–would probably be “black” enough in the broad American sense, though they still aren’t West African blacks. (South Sudan split over what broad scale you’d could call Arab-black diversity.)

If our yammering black ladies want to get Netflix money to make picture after picture after picture–sort of Holocaust style–about the wonderfulness of black women in the Nubian dynasty … or the Great Zimbabwe … or (more aptly) the Mali Empire or the slave trade or life on the plantation go for it!

But–and my point–they instead eagerly want to pretend to be Cleopatra or 18th century European nobility and royalty … because the actual achievements and culture of blacks is so meagre.

Netflix also just BLACKwashed (“historically revised”) Queen Charlotte of England, who was in reality the white wife of King George III during the American Revolution.

Steve keeps running and running and running … and not getting anywhere.

Almost like the beach–and our culture and civilization–are moving the other way.

Dumping Somalis in Minneapolis?

I knew quite a few Minnesomalimen in my work. They don’t swallow any more of this “woke” crap than Latin Americans or East Asians or Punjaratis do. But they know who holds the whip here, and keep their heads down.

Let’s hope that Steve is getting all the “healthful exercise in the fresh sea breezes” that he needs.

OTOH, Steve knows how California really works for Whitey…

https://m4uhd.tv/watch-movie-the-naked-prey-1965-244867.html

It also just occurred to me that they are using their trademark capital B “Black” in saying Cleopatra was “culturally Black.” So they are using “Black” as the proper noun that they have currently defined it. I.e., as part of the distinct modern racial consciousness that defines Black people in contrast to small “w” white people.

Here’s an easy way to debunk the idea that Cleopatra was “Black:” Did anyone in ancient Rome think that Cleopatra banging Julius Caesar and Marc Antony were “interracial relationships?”

Yes, sir!

Steve represents you and me and others here. He is indeed a hero. Individually, we don’t have to agree. In fact, that would not be possible or desirable among free people like us.

Our culture is indeed moving the other way — while we “notice.”

What to do?

Thank you for your contributions here. I am occasionally sympathetic and reflective, you see, and I see you.

Exactly! Florida has been so much better off for 4 years of the good Governor, and hopefully his style and abilities would work a bit to help the nation at large. I wrote about a fun short trip we made to an undisclosed destination on the west coast in Fun Folks in Free Florida. I mean, I’ve never seen a tourist store blatantly selling Conservative-ad hats, etc, DeSantis, some Trump, and plenty of anti-Bai-Dien stuff along with the usual “Old fishermen never die – they just smell that way” and sharks’ teeth, etc.

The 20-year-back Yankee transplant who owned the place we stayed at very boldly talked politics to me – she was glad to get a check/cash, as we both agreed giving the Feds money was bad for all of us. The attitude of Federalism – US Gov’t can go fuck itself – that DeSantis is demonstrating by his actions is hopefully spreading widely. Just that alone is a good thing.

Trump is good for some things. One of them is spreading the truth in front of many millions in front of a hostile, bitchy, self-appointed prosecuting attorney on TV, as he did the other night. That was awesome.

That doesn’t give me any confidence he’d get a damn thing done if he gets elected in ’24 though.

The latter paragraph describes iSteve, but that’s just it. It’s putting him back in work mode, rather than Taking it Easy mode. I warned him.

Steve, it might seem like there’s a world of trouble on your mind. I know you are looking for a jogger that won’t dox you as a blogger, but they’re so damn hard to find …

Regarding Gwen Nally: You’d really like to flog her, but you’re busy playing frogger…

(That didn’t really work… you know it don’t come easy.)

I see the new Peter Pan has a black Tinkerbell and a Peter Pan who’s Guatemalan or something. Captain Hook remains wyatt. As usual, the villain is the best character anyway.

Imagine the outrage if a story by an African was filmed with white actors. You can only imagine it, though, because they didn’t even create Black Panther. However, our local public library relentlessly promotes black children’s books almost exclusively, in a town that’s >95% white. To be fair, it seems like a good number of kids at the local elementary school are the product of absentee African dads.

“Kushites… would probably be “black” enough in the broad American sense, though they still aren’t West African blacks.“

I think it is pretty common for ADOS with ~25% white ancestry to look like Ethiopians or whatever you call the non-skinny South Sudanese: dark skin but Caucasian-shifted faces. Michelle Obama as a girl for example. Her strong build makes her look more West African as an adult.

Pics here:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/13/michelle-obama-wanted-everything-read-exclusive-extract-memoir-becoming

Dr. Haley argues that Cleopatra’s experience was part of a history of oppression of Black women.

Not even the most fervent, and yap-doggy Times readers… not even AOC… has or will read that graph. Even true believers know it’s a lame excuse for subclass historical accomplishment.

That’s a man and he doesn’t look very African.

I will answer in good faith and say that the authors probably mean that she occupied the space of the “other” for the Romans. Because the Romans were Western, and therefore white, Cleopatra was non-Western, and therefore black. It makes sense in the context of the jogger race’s extreme narcissism and parochialism. Of course the ultimate lesson here is the same as it always is: do not engage with blacks

These people must be physically removed from our society one way or another.

As you well know, that’s exactly how they are talking about white people.
Well, white men anyway.

The only difference is they have the power to effectuate their desire to have white men removed from the scene. And white men don’t have any. That is, the white men who object to the hostile elite’s destructive mission. Unfortunately for those white men, they’re reduced to posting comments at TUR.

So, without any institutional power it’s hard to see how you’re going to be able to remove them from the scene before they get to you.

Ummm, maybe he’s tapering off, instead of going cold turkey, which is for turkeys???

Or “Embrace the healing power of ‘and’?” and he’s doing one item a day or so while resting between sprinting on the beach of veldt as we’ve seen real live pictures of???

How can we miss him if he won’t go away?

… Steve knows how California really works for Whitey…

Yet he stays there, with his wife and offspring.

I thank God my family left the very same area in 1968, when I was just 8 years old.

(Oh, yes, my oldest sister stayed behind, and I visited her there many times… and so on…even lived in
Seal Beach for half a year…)

“‘Empowered’ leftist women, black or white, can’t be stopped without the use of force.”

That’s true in any case.

But to apply that force you need to be well-funded, well-organized, and highly motivated. You also need to have power – lots of it. And those who want “‘Empowered’ leftist women, black or white, stopped with the use of force” don’t have any.

So, until that changes any resistance will have to come in the form of guerrila warfare.
How do you think that’ll turn out? One can predict any number of scenarios.

Certainly one that comes to mind is that the hostile elite will hire all of the kill hungry white men they can find (won’t be hard, lots of them out there), pay them more $ than they can count, and have them kill the white men who won’t bow before their new slave masters. The purpose of white on white in this case will be for maximum humiliation*, of course. And also to further protect their white useful idiots and poc proxies.

In fact, in a way, isn’t this what’s already happening?

*They could even record the slaughter and put it on TV, Youtube, etc. etc. etc.

Hollywood used to annoyingly portray most smart scientists as nerdish Jews. Now they are almost uniformly black.

One of the earliest examples I can think of was the computer whiz in Die Hard:

“The police have themselves an RV!”

Females have made zero contributions to the advancement of human knowledge — not to powered flight, radio, television, computing, mathematics, metallurgy, engineering, biology, physics….

Ummm, no. Hard no, and unlike you I don’t necessarily include Madam Curie who I have suspicious of and limited respect for.

As long as we’re talking nuclear science, see Lise Meitner. Continuing to stick to fields I’ve studied to some degree, in programming languages and their tools such as compilers, Grace Hopper, Fran Allen, and Barbara Liskov. There are a fair number more who are claimed to be the real thing but I’ve not looked at the claims and their work to be sure enough to cite here.

They’re rare exceptions, and space should be made for them, but they’re also just that, rare enough the bias should be strongly against for example using them as examples to inspire other women who aren’t up to this.

The features shown in the bust are not dissimilar to those of Alexander in the famous mural.

And so Artificial [sic] Intelligence continues on, while we run along the beach.

Grimes (Clair Boucher) already exists in Artificial Intelligence form, as she willingly encourages people to teach AI to create things in her voice, image, and writing style.

https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/

“The funniest thing abt all these ai vocals is I physically cannot annunciate this clearly. grimes pronouncing things normally creates an uncanny valley, Unless ur lisping etc the grimes voice will always have a notable distinction from my voice. Interesting”

The evolution continues…

Meanwhile back on the crime beat.

1% of people were accountable for 63% of all violent crime convictions

http://www.isegoria.net/

Sometimes a nose is just a nose.

Let me guess…Who’s loud, even disruptive, in a library?

I’m ok with American blacks claiming the ancient Egyptians were black, but only if they start acting like the ancient Egyptians. You know, civilized?

Personally, I am a fan of the articles where the female author(s) are mystified that other women found out during the lockdowns…. they’d rather stay home with the kids than deal with their coworkers.

“Professors” who reference “hip-hop” (the most inane name for anything ever, and appropriately so) are the perfect markers for the End of Everything.

It’s weird how there’s never a Black Anne Frank or a Black Golda Meir.

Almost as if only one demographic is targeted for historical Black retconning.

Reminds me of an old story about Milton Friedman (I think) touring China in the 1960s. His Chinese host proudly pointed to thousands of men digging by hand with spades. “Look Mr Friedman! In China there is no unemployment. All men can work!”

Friedman quipped “Why not take away their shovels, give them spoons? Then you can employ even more!”

Did anyone in ancient Rome think that Cleopatra banging Julius Caesar and Marc Antony were “interracial relationships?”

Don’t give them ideas – of reframing those relationships as 1) white supremacist patriarchy raping BLACK! queens or 2) of the Romans being also BLACK! (the nascency of which can be seen in the “Black Roman Britain” nonsense gaining currency).

Cal Tech and MIT have suddenly become about half Thomas Sowells and Glenn Lourys

That would be vastly more preferable to the current paradigm, whether fantastical (Wakandan Science) or real (affirmative action).

The Coen brothers made a Super 8 version of this in their Minnesota backyard as kids. I hope it was in one of the warmer months.

In other news, Pocatello’s notoriety for having the worst municipal flag ever may finally have been surpassed:

That’s right. That’s their flag.

Ptolemaic Egypt was so segregated that Cleopatra was the first monarch to actually learn Egyptian. Her whole family had inbred rather than mix with the locals as Seleucus I Nicator did.

>Did anyone in ancient Rome think that Cleopatra banging Julius Caesar and Marc Antony were “interracial relationships?”

While I don’t think the Romans viewed it in those precise terms, Augustus’ propaganda war against Antony invoked long-standing Roman fears about Eastern temptresses and their feminizing tendencies, and as far as we can tell, it worked.

Their provincial flag, though, has a nice Czechoukrainian vibe:

Wow, she looks exactly like a woman I’d imagine one with a name Gwendolyn would look.

Btw, Gwenn or Gwyn is literally “white” in Breton and Welsh, respectively.

Cleopatra was certainly Black but the white Egyptians of the time posthumously revised her Black African ancestry, presumably because they were jealous of her unique hair and exceptional skin tone.

Ancient Egypt had an awesome history before this whitewashing white supremacist revisionism, and now with increasing opportunities for Black and Brown communities to voice their narratives we’ll finally be able to explore the untold truth of this era.

I look forward to deepening my understanding of a possible 3,000-year-long policy that resembles affirmative action, implemented to mitigate the privileges bestowed upon white Egyptians. This policy would serve as a significant measure of reparations, not only recognizing the systemic discrimination, slavery, and segregation faced by Black Egyptians, but also acknowledging their considerable contributions – crucial elements in the formation of the country.

Ptolemaic Egypt was so segregated that Cleopatra was the first monarch to actually learn Egyptian.

National hero Carl Gustaf Mannerheim didn’t learn Finnish until his fifties. It was his tenth language.

we claim them as part of a culture and history that has known oppression and triumph, exploitation and survival

Of course in this case, Cleopatra and her Ptolemaic ancestors were the ones doing the oppressing and exploiting, which actions were the bases of their triumphs and survival.

OT – Some kind of brouhaha at a Democratic Farmer Labor (DFL) party meeting in Minneapolis:

Meanwhile in Minneapolis.

Democrat DFL convention earlier today.

Police were called. This gets wild.pic.twitter.com/S7fxH6WaDt

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) May 14, 2023

“Our Democracy”, huh?

Look at me. Look at me. This is Our Democracy now.

Parenthetically, anyone at this meeting look like a farmer or a laborer (including the white people)? When was the last time that the DFL was actually run by an F or an L?

Seal Beach! I had the lower apartment in the house southmost along the beachwalk, near the chainlink of the Naval Munitions Depot. Very quiet end of the beach. Good neighbors in the nearest house, Long Beach State students, and I had four headsets for music to offer my visitors. Out front was perfect beauty and the long, long roll of the waves, which I tried to emulate in poetry, in long lines with the page turned sideways landscape mode, letting the thought spend itself fully before the sweep back to the opening of the next line. Of course y0u enjoyed the unpretentious little business street and fishing pier.

Make Reading Physical Books great again. Before they get “made safe”, of course.

Btw, Gwenn or Gwyn is literally “white” in Breton and Welsh, respectively.

Guinevere is Welsh for “white ghost”. It was the top girl’s name in the US for 15 years in its Cornish form, Jennifer. By the way, the Social Security Administration’s annual list of name rankings came out yesterday. Steve is split between two spellings, but combining them you get 2,250 born in 2022, just behind Tyler and just ahead of Jesus.

Here is Hollywood’s idea of a “white ghost”, Jennifer from Black Lightning:

Just another day in Holland…

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— Forum voor Democratie (@fvdemocratie) May 10, 2023

I think we focus too much on what black people think. Do you think a random aspirant raper in the UK knows who Anne Boleyn is, for example, and feels better because she was negrified in a silly TV show? As always, they are used by the ((same)) people to push their agenda of absolute egalitarianism. Negroes are indeed troublesome, they demonstrate too much the lie of the equality of human races. Let’s forge for them a false history and false accomplishments.

Ingrid Bergman and Marlene Dietrich were actually black. Both of Wakandan descent. It’s true.

The important thing is: how does she look in a bikini? That’s all that matters.

The whole thing is too weird for words.

Is it any weirder than what they’re teaching children now, namely that men can become women, men can get pregnant, etc.??

I remember the first famous case of this nuttiness. It was Renée Richards back in the 1970’s. A Jewish medical doctor from Queens, Richard Raskind, who wanted to be a woman and had a “sex-reassignment” surgery. He then started competing as a women in tennis.

A local investigative reporter from KFMB-TV in San Diego, Richard Carlson, outed this local tennis player, Dr. Renée Richards, as man. You might recognize that name, Richard Carlson, because he has a son who was just fired by Fox News.

Thanks for this.

They must have really struggled to place the tiara on that huge afro. Note also how they always try to magnify these kinky negroid hair with beautifying products (or even wigs ).

The dog is very funny too. In reality he would have quickly ended in the pot.

I’m ok with a black Cleopatra. In fact I hope they really don’t hold back, and make the production as authentic as possible — lines spoken in black street talk, guys sagging their pants (or whatever the Egyptians wore), and lots of girl-on-girl fights.

I’m sure the racial stats on users of library cards would be very revealing.

This 2015 Pew survey gives statistics like that.
https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2015/03/17/chapter-1-using-public-libraries/

Seems to indicate blacks and whites are pretty similar. The biggest difference I see is in Table 1.1 stating almost 50% more blacks (proportionally) visit libraries weekly (19% vs 13%).

I’d be interested in knowing more about the sampling process. For instance, high school graduation rates of their sample. In 2019 for the US 79.6% of blacks and 89.4% of whites graduated high school.
https://datacenter.aecf.org/data/tables/10120-high-school-graduation-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity

Lizzo instead of Liz. I’ll spare you the photo.

Okay, so the ancient Egyptians were black. And they wuz Kangs.

And it’s very well known that the ancient Hebrews were slaves in Egypt.

And that means that the Egyptians, who were black, owe reparations to the Hebrews.

Which means that the blacks owe reparations to the Jews.

And I am Jewish.

Which means that the blacks owe me approximately 1 billion dollars in reparations, as there are thousands of years of interest, not a paltry 400 years, as as is the case with ADOS.

So it’s time to PAY UP, SUCKAHS!!!

But I am a reasonable man. So I will happily accept as reparations for me and my co-ethnics instead of money, the repatriation of the entire American black and European black populations from everywhere in the world back to Africa.

It’s a win-win all around!!

Was the CIA responsible for the botched assassination attempt on Michael Jackson?

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— Kirby Sommers (@LandlordLinks) May 13, 2023

Julia Streicherettes? Can we turn that into a thing?

I’m not a careful research guy, just an annoying anecdotal jerk. But sometimes annoying anecdotes can tell you more than proper data.

Here is my explanation: simple version is, white people go to bookstores and buy stuff (and also a lot of coffee) in order to sit in peace and quiet because too many libraries are now basically homeless shelters and insane asylums. Black people who go to libraries do this because they live in a “book-store desert” as it were, so that’s where they go to get some peace and quiet and some “me-time” away from… well, other black people.

I know the whole drill because I did this as a kid, because my grade school sucked and I got tired of getting beat up all the time, so I spent a lot of time at the local library, just as a form of escape. And because the books were badly and incoherently shelved, I started reading Kafka by accident when I was looking for crappy science fiction. Believe it or not, I accidentally read Ulysses in 6th grade because I was looking for a book about bank robberies, and they put Joyce there by mistake. I opened it up at random because I had heard that it was a dirty book, and I started reading the insane “night-town / Circe” episode. I read it about 15 times in a row before I decided to try and read the rest of the book. So, yeah, public libraries, I’m a fan. Even built one, once.

As a kid I had a “great man theory” history book, which outlined in 2 or 3 pages the lives of all sorts of influential great-man people like, well Benjamin Franklin: a “great man” if the phrase has any meaning at all.

One of the mini-bios was of Andrew Carnegie, detailing his theories of philanthropy. His page had a very memorable ending: apparently he once said, “A man who dies rich, dies disgraced.” The editor ended the passage with this — “Andrew Carnegie did not die a pauper; but he also did not die disgraced.” I thought that was a keeper.

Jada Pinkett Smith: Back in 1994, newsweek quoted Pinkett as saying that she looked better than any White woman.

If a White woman had said she looked better than any black woman, her career would have been over. Smith, of course, suffered no negative consequences.

As always, the best library joke of all time…

“DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM DEFEATS TRUMAN DECIMAL SYSTEM”

And the second best library joke…

LOUD DRUNK GUY: Hey, bitch! Where can I get some booze and some pornography?

LIBRARIAN: Sir, please! This is a library!

LOUD DRUNK GUY: Oh, I’m sorry. (VERY QUIET WHISPER) Hey, bitch, where can I get some booze and pornography?

Do you think a random aspirant raper in the UK knows who Anne Boleyn is

Excellent typo bro!

That truth doesn’t matter to white libtards has long been evident.

What is fast becoming apparent, however, is that white libtards believe that the main cultural task of western societies is to help black people feel good about being black people, in the vain hope that this, eventually, will make black people stop behaving like black people – because no one, not even white libtards, really likes the way real black people really behave.

Dr. Nally is an associate professor of philosophy at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. Dr. Gilbert is an assistant professor of classics at Mississippi State University.

So they got their PhDs in ‘who/whom’ sciences where true empirical failure states or replication doesn’t exist unlike the hard sciences so it’s really who gains control of a journal or who is in control to funnel their graduate students to top positions. The soft sciences are academically quite Nietzschean.

Does one need a PhD to look at a portrait on a coin, look at a bust? Read what people said about themselves? Because that’s all anyone has to go on and it all suggests Cleopatra was not Sub-Saharan.

Netflix’s casting was informed by the views of Shelley Haley, a renowned classicist and Cleopatra expert, who claims that, although evidence of her ancestry and physical attributes are inconclusive, Cleopatra was culturally Black.

We’ve just established that means nothing and that the soft academic subjects are increasingly a joke. But it seems Shelley Haley is currently the head of the main US association of classicists since 2021 but she has been the incumbent since before Jan 2020 so no Floyd hysteria election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Haley

Here is an interview.

https://classicalstudies.org/scs-blog/clairecatenacciogmailcom/blog-women-classics-conversation-scs-president-elect-shelley

CC: How did you come to Classics?

SH: I’m an accidental Classicist. I was raised by my grandmother, my father’s mother. My own mother died when I was quite young. My grandmother drummed into us four kids that we would finish school and get our education. What she had wanted more than anything else for herself was to be an elementary school teacher, but because she was a black woman living in upstate New York, she had to leave school in order to support her family.

I’m not saying you wouldn’t bet on a black woman circa late 1800s/early 1900s in upstate New York wouldn’t have felt pressure to end her education to go straight to work. But it wasn’t because she was black, it was because she was poor. MLK getting a bullet just as he was pivoting towards class politics has had astounding impacts on black politics.

My father was very good at cutting hair, and he used to cut my brothers’ hair, but he didn’t want to be a barber. What he really wanted to be, in the terminology of the time, was “the great Negro novelist.” It didn’t happen, sadly. He was a sports journalist, and he worked in Chicago. That’s where he met my mother, who was working for the black newspaper, The Chicago Defender. He was the sports journalist for that paper. Then my parents lived in D.C. for a while. Even before my mother’s death, my father bounced around a lot. He was frustrated, and he drank too much, and he could never really keep a steady job. I learned all this as an adult. As a child, I didn’t know much.

…

When I got into Syracuse, I was really excited. I went to my father to show him the letter. He read the letter, and then he said, “Why do you want to go to college?” I was totally confused. I said, “You always said you wanted one of us to follow you to Syracuse.” He said, “Yeah, but I thought it’d be one of the boys.” I said, “What difference does that make?” He said, “You’re not going to use this. You’re going to stay here and you’re going to take care of me.” That’s how it was in my family. I am the eldest daughter. I was supposed to be the caretaker of my parents.

I’m sure the parents of her sadly deceased mother were overjoyed that their grandchildren were being looked after by the mother of their deadbeat dad and not themselves. (Well, maybe they were actually) The dad had quite a few nice jobs, actually, you can read the whole interview to see them all, some of them occurred when they were still an intact family.

But I was talking about Syracuse. At the time when I was an undergraduate, the campus was very contentious, because of the protest against the Vietnam War and because of the rise of black nationalism and the Black Panthers. Students for a Democratic Society actually started at Syracuse. All of these different ideas were totally new to me. I remember feeling that same sense of isolation from the black students at Syracuse as I had back in Hampton. I felt more comfortable sitting with the friends I had made who happened to be white, and not at the “black table.” Because of this, the black kids decided I didn’t want to be black. But those just weren’t categories in my head.

…

“Well, what have you taken that you enjoyed taking?” And I said, “Well, I really like Latin. In fact, I just started Greek because I like Latin so much.” So he said, “Well, major in Latin.” So that’s what I did. I started taking lots of Latin, as well as Greek. I studied abroad, in Florence. I took an art history course and I took a course on the history of opera, which still sticks with me.

There was a very small group of black students at Syracuse, and we all knew each other. When it got around that I was going to major in Latin, it was a big deal. I remember one young woman, the most fiercely intellectual of the group, who just intimidated me totally with her intellect and presence. She came up to me at the lunch table and she goes, “What the hell you think you’re doing, Latin?” And I said, “What do you mean?” She said, “Latin? What are you going to do for black people with Latin?” She thought I was a traitor. I said, “Well, you know, I think we need black people who are successful at a lot of different things.” And she said, “You need to be out there. You need to be visible. Latin is invisible.” Oh, she was so mad. She was just so mad. She thought I was a total sellout.

And our hero had the last laugh by making everything she did in the classics field about blackness and eventually becoming head of the US classics pyramid. And who can remember the angry black woman who berated her? She has no name.

Neither she nor the woman seems to have thought about economics or class. I’m sure that won’t cause any problems two generations later…

The linked article title is a shout out to Public Enemy’s 1990 album Fear of a Black Planet.

Just thought I should point that out.

You should probably re-read it in that light.

A sentiment on which I reckon we could all come together and agree.

That Alexander Reid Ross dog is a macher, he should get started on the tranny murderer manifesto. The feds are just spinning their wheels and scratching their heads.

These animals should be fed to sharks.

We are the Sons of Cleopatra,the Mother of Our Race!!
Arise,Ye White Men!
Oh Cleopatra Give Us Strength that we may slay our enemies!
Cleopatra! White Like Me!

Ah, that explains it. Cleopatra was just Alexander in drag. Or was it the other way around?

Lol, no dude, they want white women removed. That’s why all the white women on TV have been replaced by women of color but the men are still white.

It was called the ” Greek ” nose, an attribute of beauty. Now, too long and ” thick ” for modern taste. So for Cleopatra bust.

Oh, I’m sorry. I think it was in fact a funny freudian lapsus scriptae..

So sick of Trump. So sick of the ego. So sick of the circus.

I will vote for him if that’s the only choice next year, but he isn’t my first choice by any means.

I am becoming ever more despondent at the way a certain subset of the right is in the thrall of what could only be described as a personality cult. And they insist that the only candidate they will support is the one guy who a large majority of Americans say – unfairly or not – is unacceptable.

Trump wasn’t even on the ballot in 2018 and 2022 and yet most democrat voters said he was the one thing they were voting against. And even if there was rampant fraud and irregularities in 2020, the only reason those things worked was because the margins in a few key states were so tight to begin with that the fraud was able to overcome it…. and those margins were small because most people just don’t like Trump.

Don’t get me wrong, I personally think Trump is way better than Biden or any other crazy woke democrat, and I actually kind of like him in a vacuum and I thought he did a better job as president than he is given credit for… but if the goal is to win the election in 2024, the republicans would do much better with a different candidate, and there is a much better one without all the Trump baggage.

Imagine for a moment who DeSantis would appoint to power positions….

You meant, of course, “Imagine for a moment whom DeSantis would appoint to power positions…” I trust a learned man such as America’s Governor would appoint people who [that’s the right pronoun in this context] know that there is as much difference between “who” and “whom” as between”I” and “me” or “he” and “him” or “she” and “her.” You obviously fail that test.

Kenneth Branagh directed a version of As You Like It like this too.
I didn’t like it.

https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/why-do-fools-fall-in-love-aired-on-october-23-1971-susan-news-photo/101597134?adppopup=true
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The original ‘Joanie’ was the late Susan Neher. Not everyone’s cup o’ Joe, but you get points for red hair and freckles.

The only thing woke leftists are good at is strangling the goose that lays the golden eggs.

I had this realization during the Obamacare wars more than years ago.

“Who’s going to pay for all these new goodies for the people who already have health insurance?”

“The people who are already paying for it… their employers!”*

* yes yes I know that employers never actually pay for mandated stuff, the employees ultimately do, but the leftists definitely don’t know that.

Almost zero.

And nobody expects that from them.

Which is perception of female sex, not just in the decadent West: Eros. Nothing else. Girls and women are all about seeking male attention, showing titillating body parts, using cosmetic surgery to look better, modeling/whoring, ….

When some actress poses in the nude in her 40s/50s & looks erotic, everybody screams-whoa, in that age! Without females, the fashion industry would die out (as well as all beauty industries).

Go to any page of newspapers & you’ll see females as sexual objects. Of course, there will be one or two of them because they’re good or important in their chosen professions, but, as a group …

Byron was right:Man’s love is of man’s life a part; it is a woman’s whole existence.

When a man is physically ugly, that’s unpleasant; with women, it’s a disaster.

In the valley where I spent my early years nobody had books in their house, except for my parents who had some Reader’s Digest condensed books. The little library in my backwoods town catapulted me from rural confines to a thousand distant horizons. When I found out, maybe around age 9, that Carnegie did this, and why he did it, I was awestruck.

Last summer I hunted it down, and it is still there, still small, 65 years later.

….”people experiencing enslavement”.

That’s actually pretty damned funny. Man-bun (the fellow with the mic) is completely unable to control the crowd of hajib-wearing blimps, despite his pleas and gaveling.

The “documentary” has basically the lowest score possible on Rotten Tomatoes.

https://gamerant.com/queen-cleopatra-netflix-rotten-tomatoes-score-review-bomb-why/

More information at this post linked to by your article.
https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/when-few-do-great-harm

What is interesting is that the 2014 Swedish study underlying most of those pages only looks at people born in Sweden. Here is the paper.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/

No first-generation immigrants were included in this study, due to missing and/or incomplete data.

Would have been interesting to see an analysis of later generations of immigrants, but they did not see fit to do that (might not matter since lag time from immivasion not long enough). And of course no mention of race in the paper.

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/were-the-ancient-egyptians-black-or-white-scientists-now-know/

Good point long thin nose and small chin.

Good points. I would add that libraries are (purposefully) more than just books these days. In particular, movies and internet access. The internet access aspect probably changes the user demographics quite a bit.

19% of blacks visiting a library weekly still surprises me. I would like to understand more about that.

IMHO data and anecdotes work best together.

“Jesus was Black. So was Cleopatra! Know your history.” – Paul Mooney

“Santa Claus IS white!” – Megyn Kelly

Lol, no dude, they want white women removed.

That very well may be.
Wouldn’t doubt it, but don’t know for sure, since I don’t watch much TV.

Either way, that wasn’t my point. My point was that there are still white women out there celebrating the replacement of white men.

19% of blacks visiting a library weekly still surprises me. I would like to understand more about that.

Here in Miami the main downtown library is bum central. They can sit in air-conditioned comfort and use the computers all day long. What’s not to like?

The free-condom dispensers in the bathroom are always empty.

When the Roman poet Propertius famously called Cleopatra a whore queen (meretrix regina), he laced his misogynist tirade with allusions to Egypt, such as the “noxious” city of Alexandria and the “yapping” Egyptian god Anubis.

Not to be the one not getting the joke that their whole argument is nonsense, but how does this support the idea that Cleopatra was black (sorry, ‘culturally Black’)?

In the late 1st century good Romans like Propertius (he was born to to a noble family in modern-day Umbria, Italy), saw the city of Alexandria as wealthy, decadent and non-masculine — it had nothing to do with black. And Anubis is a god with a canine head, which presumably explains the ‘yapping’ thing.

The top photograph is of Edith Gwendolyn Nally. The lower photograph is of Mary Hamil Gilbert.

Cleopatra gets a 1% score from regular people on ‘Rotten Tomatoes’
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwELzvmXoAIg5Qg?format=jpg&name=small

I wonder if Uncle Miltie actually said that. It’s a paraphrasing of an old saw about labor unions that I heard decades ago, before Milton Friedman was a household name. It goes: Union Boss: “One hundred men with shovels could be doing the work of that backhoe!” Company manager: “I agree, but why not one thousand men with teaspoons?” So, your “quote” may be about as accurate as the “Let them eat cake” quote attributed to a certain 18th Century queen consort of France.

Don’t forget stated preferences are often – even usually – not the same as revealed preferences.

Surveys of this type are generally useless. You need actual usage data, which, of course, we’ll never get. And don’t ask for it either, you racist!

Maybe. But Pakistani Muslims in England and Dominicans in NYC mostly elect anti-white social conservatives. Muslims elected to Congress however are all woke accross-the-board leftists. Somalis also have a high illegitimacy rate.

A big mummy study estimated ancient Egyptians were 10.5% subsaharan, with little change from ~1000BC to the Roman era, compared to about 18% SSA for modern Muslim Egyptians.

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That’s very cool. When was it? I lived for six or seven months of the year 1978 at my sister’s place on 7th Street, a block from the beach, and about two blocks from “the unpretentious little business street and fishing pier. That was on the north side, opposite you.

Somalis also have a high illegitimacy rate.

Do you have a source for this claim? Their high fertility within marriage would reduce their total rate. The two guys I knew best at my company had 13 children between them, all with their wives.

That’s a high standard for their sluts to compete with!

The director of one of their agencies told a local newspaper that while Minneapolis’s community was the most successful economically in the whole diaspora, it also suffered the most family breakdown. Presumably he meant post-marital, not pre-marital.

So they are assimilating, just to the wrong things, e.g., “no-fault” divorce. Corruption is a two-way street.

I really should have included this, so here it is, laden with beautiful memories of Anna and Seal Beach…

Good points. I would add that libraries are (purposefully) more than just books these days. In particular, movies and internet access. The internet access aspect probably changes the user demographics quite a bit.

My sister was a head librarian at a high school library for thirty years. Computers with internet access did change the nature of libraries. According to her, the kids spent large amounts of time playing games and looking at videos on the internet instead of browsing the library shelves. She said literary classics like Dickens or Hemingway were seldom checked out. I’ve seen the same thing personally in Indianapolis public library branches. This is especially the case in black neighborhoods. They get the library card to access the internet, not to take out books.

The original rationale for government funding of public libraries was they served a valuable educational function. However, they have largely turned into places to check out popular fiction and movies and to use the internet for entertainment purposes. Most big city librarians are liberal, so the political books they buy are mostly leftist propaganda like Howard Zinn or Ibram X. Kendi. They also allow the homeless to camp out there. This is unfortunate for the few inner-city children who want to use libraries for educational purposes or as a refuge from big city violence or social dysfunction.

At first I thought this was about the chokehold death on the NYC subway. 🤦‍♂️

To be fair, is there any organic genuine interest in Anne Frank at all, before you’d try to race-swap it? That was the original Forced Meme.

All American jr HS students assigned to read it 1980-? already know it is a dumb, fake, and groomy piece of work. Even “I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings” has more narrative structure and details of her life compelling to kidbrains.

“Farewell To Manzanar” absolutely blows

The NYT was lost a long time ago, it’s never coming back. The whole marketing system is based on telling their readers what they want to hear, and guess what? this nonsense is what they want to hear, it’s dead Jim.

All too true. Though sometimes reality is captured. For instance, this 2016 survey partially validates my internet point.
https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2016/09/09/library-usage-and-engagement/

Library users who take advantage of libraries’ computers and internet connections are more likely to be young, black, female, and lower income.

White immigrants have a 12.7% illegitimacy rate, black immigrants 34.2, Asian immigrants 10.9%. Black economic migrants’ offspring generally regress toward the native black mean.

The fact that apparently all the Somalis you know are gainfully employed indicates your sample isn’t representative.

That was my “Summer of ’78.”

My sound track would have been from The Mamas and the Papas, or Grace Slick, and … or … a decade earlier. Thanks for sharing an endless summer from one of the undeveloped southern California beach towns between Alamitos Bay and Newport Harbor from another time. It was an idyll until you had to turn from the Pacific perfection and drive into the intensity of the LA basin. Better to linger tanning on the sand, with the slight accent of the Netherlands in the emerald green swimsuit next to you. Good to recall as of course it doesn’t last forever.

Last time I saw Seal Beach they’d had to mount a huge berm along the beach against a tsunami, which alas impeded the ocean view. Still, I’m tempted to check real estate prices. But then I think of driving LA, and wonder whether I’d last ten minutes after decades of rural ambling.

black immigrants 34.2

This figure lumps in various Caribbean as well as African cultures, which can vary dramatically. East and West Africa differ more than any two societies in Europe do. On top of that, Somalis are quite different from their immediate neighbors in Kenya, Ethiopia, and Eritrea. (Djibouti and North East Province in Kenya are mostly Somali themselves.)

They also take their religion seriously, a faith that takes family issues seriously, to the point of stoning.

You need to supply data that pertain to Somalimen specifically. They are sui generis.

The fact that apparently all the Somalis you know are gainfully employed indicates your sample isn’t representative.

One issue is the sham divorce– dad pretends to abandon so mom gets more in benefits. If they continue to produce children, this would up the bastardy rate– on paper. The family is still intact, just physically separated, like guest workers in the Gulf.

Cleopatra, long nose small chin, looks very much like the the present royal family of Britain. King Charles, his aunt Princess Margaret, brother Prince Edward , grandfather George 6 great uncle Edward 8 great grandfather George 5. But not like brother Prince Andrew short nose square jaw who looks like his father Henry Herbert.