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The New York Times explains that masked AntiFa goons beating up reporter Andy Ngo in Portland was, actually, when you stop and think about it, extremely complex, exaggerated, and much too boring to think about or even to remember. It’s kind of like how the Rolling Stone “Rape on Campus” hate hoax was really, when you get down to it, an incredibly dull story about insufficient attention being devoted to fully implementing appropriate journalistic fact-checking methodology. It didn’t have anything to do with a non-existent catfished fantasy figure named Haven Monahan organizing an annual fraternity initiation ritual gang rape on broken glass.

In Portland, a Punch and a Milkshake Rumor Feed a Fresh Round of Police Criticism

Multiple groups demonstrated in downtown Portland, Ore., on Saturday.
Credit
Dave Killen/The Oregonian, via Associated Press

Look at these horrifying Fascists attacking poor transgender black baby bodies! (These are the Fascists, right? Of course they are. If they weren’t, the NYT would tell us in the caption so we don’t get confused.)

By Mike Baker
July 1, 2019

It was by now a familiar scene of summer street warfare in Portland: Conservative marchers, this time pushing a #HimToo message in one of the nation’s most progressive cities, faced down a rowdy group of anti-fascist protesters.

Soon the tensions escalated, with a black-clad activist striking the conservative journalist Andy Ngo in the face while others slimed him with what protesters said were vegan coconut milkshakes. Mr. Ngo was left bloodied and obviously shaken, reporting the attack in a video livestreamed to his more than 140,000 Twitter followers when a city medic arrived to check on him.

“Where the hell were all of you?” Mr. Ngo demanded.

By Monday morning, the case was reverberating around the country through conservative circles, where prominent leaders were asking the same question. Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, called for a federal investigation, declaring without evidence that officials in Oregon’s largest city were allowing the violence as a result of their own liberal sympathies. A Portland State University professor called for impeaching the city’s Democratic mayor, Ted Wheeler.

Fueling the conservative alarm was the Portland Police Bureau’s own suggestion on Twitter during the height of the protests — later walked back slightly — that anti-fascist protesters had laced their milkshakes with quick-drying cement before lobbing them at the marchers.

With political polarization on the rise, the nation’s fraught conversations over immigration, race and policing are increasingly being held in tense street showdowns punctuated with eggs, bricks and, lately, milkshakes. Portland’s long history of street activism has made the city a central stage for many of those conflicts; this weekend’s protests left the police department facing unusual criticism that it had not only been slow to halt the violence, but with its questionable claim about cement milkshakes, had dramatically fueled the furor.

Mr. Ngo is an independent journalist in the Portland area who works with the online magazine Quillette, a publication which prides itself on taking on “dangerous” ideas — in some cases, writing about genetic notions of race, in others, about the shortfalls of feminism. Mr. Ngo has also written for The Wall Street Journal, including an opinion piece in 2018 highlighting the prominent display of Muslim identity as an example of “failed multiculturalism” in London.

He has a history of battling with anti-fascist groups, with the two sides sharing a mutual antipathy that dates back many months. The conservative journalist has built a prominent presence in part by going into situations where there may be conflict and then publicizing the results.

Before Saturday’s event, anti-fascist organizers had mentioned him by name. Mr. Ngo had written on social media that he was worried about the event.

“He’s a political pundit who certainly makes the most out of his conflicts, which sometimes turn violent on him,” said Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino. “But to his credit, I’ve never seen him be the physical aggressor in the posts that he’s made generally.”

Mr. Ngo also fund-raises on his social media platforms. A GoFundMe campaign created by Michelle Malkin, a conservative commentator, had raised about $150,000 to cover Mr. Ngo’s medical expenses as of Monday evening.

A lawyer for Mr. Ngo, Harmeet K. Dhillon, did not respond to messages seeking comment, but called out on Twitter to “Antifa criminals” whom she said “I plan to sue into oblivion and then sow salt into their yoga studios and avocado toast stands until nothing grows there, not even the glimmer of a violent criminal conspiracy aided by the effete impotence of a cowed city government.”

In Portland, demonstrations in recent years have led to clashes and violence. During one event last summer, skirmishes broke out that left a few people needing medical attention and the police with a collection of apparent weapons they had confiscated throughout the day. The city also saw other violent confrontations in 2017, with the police seizing bricks, knives and brass knuckles.

The department has in the past faced equally strong protests from left-wing groups over aggressive policing. Earlier this year, officials disclosed messages between a police bureau lieutenant and leaders of the far-right group Patriot Prayer, showing friendly exchanges and discussions about protests — messages which prompted many critics to accuse the department of having a built-in bias toward conservatives.

“This story, like many that have come before it, simply confirms what many in the community have already known — there are members of the Portland police force who work in collusion with right-wing extremists,” a city commissioner, Jo Ann Hardesty, said at the time. …

A version of this article appears in print on July 1, 2019, on Page A12 of the New York edition with the headline: Police Tactics Questioned Amid Violence in Oregon.

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  1. An absurd lie that the Portland Police side with conservatives.

    That has never happened.

    The mayor is a far left loon and he sets the antifa tone for Portland.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Robert Dolan

    Little more complicated. One Portland Police lieutenant was having chats with Joey Gibson, the organizer of Patriot Prayer, mostly planning logistics to make sure events ran smoothly. That got twisted by the media and local politicians though into "siding" with conservatives. Also, Antifa throws bottles and rocks, which cops don't like, and which leads to them eventually always getting dispersed, often with riot control agents. Patriot Prayer and the other right groups are better behaved, especially to police, so police naturally are better behaved back.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Svigor

    , @notanon
    @Robert Dolan

    it's almost certain most cops privately prefer patriot prayer but they'll obey the mayor's orders.

    , @LG
    @Robert Dolan

    There's documented proof that Portland Police had a cozy relationship with Patriot Prayer. The idea that there is an institutionalized sympathy among law enforcement and government officials for anti-statist, cop-hating anarchists is what's absurd.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/01/exclusive-video-shows-portland-officers-made-deal-with-far-right-group-leader

    https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/apr/24/pbb-patriot-prayer-logs/

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Alden

  2. Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no “anti-fascists,” because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term “anti-fascists” is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The “anti-fascists” bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT “journalists” who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Stop legitimizing violent communists. The new antifa is morally as corrupt as our granddaddies', but their death toll is lower for now

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Thomas
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    https://twitter.com/Blair_A_Nathan/status/1145745094592610305

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s
     
    A lot of the resistance groups in the war were hardly better than the nazis themselves. The French resistance were pretty much all Stalinists who didn't even oppose the nazis until they went to war with the U.S.S.R. After the war they engaged in some pretty heinous reprisals against the Vichy "collaborators."
    , @Desiderius
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well said.

    Antifa looks to be made up of almost exclusively UMC and above regressors to the mean in the line of Bill Ayers.

    Their LARPing is literally Quixotic. Unfortunately they’re not tilting at windmills but at regular Americans committed to defending our national heritage.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    The false term “anti-fascists” is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation
     
    Huey Long said that when fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.

    There have been plenty of examples of the truth of this, then and now.
    , @Anonymousse
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s
     
    I’m sure those heroes would have fought doubly hard against the terrible fascists if they could have known exactly what sort of progressive and vibrant future they were helping preserve for their great grandchildren.
    , @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s
     
    Who, in particular, do you have in mind?

    Name three.

    Replies: @ic1000

    , @Svigor
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "Genuine anti-fascist heroes"

    Citation needed.

    , @ben tillman
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no “anti-fascists,” because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.
     
    Fascism was a movement founded in 1919 to oppose Bolshevism. Are there any Bolsheviks today?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @ben tillman
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    The “anti-fascists” bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT “journalists” who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.
     
    The way they use the term "anti-fascist" is not the problem. The problem is the baggage they hang on the term "fascist".
  3. I think there’s going to be some serious violence once the campaign really gets under way in 2020.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @International Jew

    Not if the ratios keep going the way they’re going.

    , @Anon
    @International Jew

    I'm afraid you're right. The left is desperate not to lose this time. I think we're in danger of getting Civil War version 2.0. The issue that triggered the first Civil War was the inability of angry Democrats to accept the election of a Republican, and it can happen again. I don't want to see it, but frankly, it would do a lot of good to clear out leftists if their most fanatical were slaughtered en masse on the battlefield, and we would be able to force illegals back into their home countries, or just tried to shoot them if they tried to stick around.

    How else would it play out? We'd have to be reconquering enemy territory such as New England and the West Coast. A General Sherman type of war-destroying their economy and thus their warmaking capacity-would be aimed at wiping out their all businesses and housing. That would ruin them for a few generations as economic powers. Their expensive housing would be destroyed, so all the coasties would lose their equity in their houses and end up poor, jobless, and no roof over their head.

    As much as I'd hate to say it, conservatives would benefit massively from a Civil War. We'd be able to completely return economic power to the center, and shrink hostile population on the coasts, get rid of enemy aliens with the wrong values, and retake the coasts for conservatives. It would be easy to do it with modern weapons tech where you just fly a plane and push a button. Since coasties have disarmed themselves, armed troops sent in won't find any effective resistance, although ghettos will be more difficult to clean up. We could pay for the war via electronic seizure of invested assets from the rebellious population.

    Upon thinking about it further, screw all the worries and moral concerns about it. I'd go for it. It's win-win. Any pretext we can use that provokes them to violence is a useable excuse to mow them down.

    , @MBlanc46
    @International Jew

    The Left are obviously spoiling for it. If one can go by website comments, there are many on the Right who would welcome it. It’s certainly plausible that there will be some violence, and, perhaps, early incidents will spark later incidents. If violence does occur, I hope that those on the Right will govern themselves in such a way that the thuggish nature of the Left is made manifest.

  4. I saw Andy Ngo on Tucker Carlson tonight, and it’s remarkable that such a soft-spoken, small, gay Asian man is so brave. He desrves every dollar of the support he’s getting.

    Speaking of support, it’s a great thing to see conservatives helping out their own financially. Antifa has been supported in Portland for decades by certain wealthy institutions and individuals. This stuff makes a difference.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Bill P

    Look, I don't think anyone, whether on the Left or Right, should be beaten up for their political beliefs. Full stop.

    Ngo seems not so much right wing, but vaguely libertarian. Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He's putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    I would never step into this crowd unless I had a crew with cameras and fighting skills that had my back and even then, it's frankly just not worth it. I know full well that the police and the media are on antifa's side, especially in a place like Portland. Best to avoid stepping into a hornet's nest, but Ngo seems to relish the punishment. He is either autistic, sadistic or doing it to raise money. Likely, all three. The rational move is to avoid these people as they are violent and the system is on their side.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Thomas, @vinteuil, @notanon, @Paul Mendez

    , @Thoughts
    @Bill P

    Asian and Gay?

    How is he...Our Own?

    White people...oh dear....just so stupid.

    , @Svigor
    @Bill P

    Word is he's a homosexual performance artist who sets himself up to get attacked so he can get media coverage and donations.

    The fact that (((Big Media))) is showering him with attention and ignoring the huwhite guy who got his head split open is congruent.

    John Blum and Adam Kelly:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49029/watch-elderly-man-beaten-crowbar-another-has-head-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Don't hold your breath waiting for (((Big Media))) to show their pictures, play their video, or speak their names.

    https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2019/07/screen_shot_2019-07-01_at_10.49.10_am.png?itok=1YSdjTkQ

    Replies: @David, @bored identity, @bored identity, @Dr Van Nostrand

  5. Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Kronos


    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?
     
    "Neoliberal" would imply they're free-market conservatives or something. They're mostly left-anarchists or Communists. Though plenty I'm sure are ideologically flexible, enough to run local businesses (like Cider Riot), or take Soros money.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @CCZ
    @Kronos

    A Soros Jewish self-defense society?? Thank you Jewish Haaretz for reminding us that diversity, inclusion, and anti-white hate is our strength.

    "On America's Streets, Antifa's Militant Anti-fascism Isn't Terrorism - It's Self-defense"

    "After an anti-fascist punched a right-wing journalist in Portland, militant anti-fascists and Antifa - who counter far right violence - have been branded as 'violent gangs,' even 'terrorists.' Those definitions are completely wrong."

    By Stanislav Vysotsky, Assistant Professor of Sociology and Criminology at the University of Wisconsin - Whitewater. His research has been published in journals and the forthcoming book "Inside Antifa: The Tactics, Culture, and Practice of Militant Antifascism"

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-militant-anti-fascism-is-self-defense-1.7425726

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Anonymous
    @Kronos

    As the fashion-backward successors to the Free Mumia/Zapatista dirtbags from the '90s they are, I'd expect, very much against "neoliberal" globalization, in preference to the woker totalitarian-transgender forms of same. Ideologically Antifa is a mere grab-bag of whatever the most sullen middle-class twentysomethings in the college towns are on about these days.

    , @notanon
    @Kronos


    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization?
     
    both (minus the democratic)

    their self-conception is bolshevik - descendants of the Communist Party street militia of 1920s Germany whose attacks on the rallies of other parties led to the creation of the Brownshirts.

    https://images.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/08093346/Antifa-Conference-1932.png

    however in the modern context of Wall St. conning the Left into identity politics they are effectively the street militia of neo-liberal economics.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?
     
    some of the organizers / organizations will be getting funded by Wall St. (not necessarily knowingly) but most are doing it for ideological reasons.

    they mostly come from all-white and prosperous backgrounds so don't realize "no borders" is really all about unlimited cheap labor for billionaires.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @Gordo
    @Kronos


    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

     

    Soros mercenaries, police auxiliaries, establishment thugs.
    , @Kyle
    @Kronos

    They’re not Soros mercenaries, just useful idiots. The soros mercenary would be the one who organizes the face book group. The idiots who show up are really sincere in their convictions and are really stupid. None of them are getting payed by Soros, it’s disingenuous to think so. The people organizing antifa could be anyone. Soros mercenaries, Russian troll farms, tech savvy preteens in Israel. They might not be real people, they could be bots.

    , @Brad Smith
    @Kronos

    Anti-fa is organized much like the terrorist lefties of the 70's. There are well known figures in their groups who are the stars. The rest of the idiots flock around these stars and will do anything to become one. To become a anti-fa star you go out and commit violent acts or property damage etc. etc. They literally spend their time trying to rise in their hierarchy by seeing who can kiss up to the stars via more and more desperate acts of violence and destruction.

    So what it really amounts to is a bunch of immature piss-ants trying to look cool to their fellow idiots. The virtue signaling is just an excuse to destroy and tear down, in this sense they are simply Nihilistic children with no actual convictions.

    Their goal is to achieve star status among their fucked up peers, it has nothing to do with actually accomplishing anything else.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Kronos

    , @Paul Mendez
    @Kronos

    You’re overthinking things.

    Antifa is mainly young men who, like most young men, are simply looking for an excuse to fight and break stuff. The only aspect of Antifa I find puzzling is the occasional presence of obese white girls with purple hair.

    Replies: @Kronos

  6. Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation. The point being: Ngo was on the wrong side so he had it coming somehow. He was probably trying to push his face into somebody’s fist just to get attention.

    I especially like this passage:

    The conservative journalist has built a prominent presence in part by going into situations where there may be conflict and then publicizing the results.

    Has the NYT even referred to anybody ever as a “liberal journalist? ” (Admittedly, that’s usually redundant). But if he were a typical liberal journalist they’d be praising his brave risk taking to get a story. Instead, he’s the troublemaker for interfered with some antifa guy’s day out larping.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @Hypnotoad666


    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.
     
    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn't fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible. Or they describe the victim as being hit by a car, as though the car was to blame.

    I recall a few weeks back a story about a White woman mistakenly getting into a car she thought was her ride-share. They wrote she mistakenly entered the car, the door locks engaged, she could not get out and was later found to have been strangled.

    Minimizing what happened to Ngo is a piece of cake.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Alden

    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    @Hypnotoad666

    When NYT or other MSM journalists "go into situations where there may be conflict and then publicize the results", they're lionized as "war reporters" and hagiographified as the bravest people in the world. Even if they never left the hotel lobby.

    , @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.

    Use of the passive tense is another slimy NYT tell. Their Good Guys actively do good things. But bad things just seem to happen to wreckers and saboteurs, sorta tough luck but they musta kinda had it coming, don't you think? The reader has to be motivated to scour the article to its end (and between its lines) to figure out what actually happened.


    In Portland, demonstrations in recent years have led to clashes and violence. During one event last summer, skirmishes broke out that left a few people needing medical attention and the police with a collection of apparent weapons they had confiscated throughout the day. The city also saw other violent confrontations in 2017
     
    Looking at what Google News is able to do, it would be straightforward to train an AI like that on a set of articles, rating them on friendliness to antifa. This one's right at the mainstream's sweet spot.

    Replies: @J1234, @Known Fact

    , @dvorak
    @Hypnotoad666


    Has the NYT even referred to anybody ever as a “liberal journalist?
     
    Conservative Journalist is like White Hispanic - coined just-in-time to extend the Narrative to a current event. The neologism is not a concept, it is just an name to call.

    White Hispanic is what you call George Zimmerman and Conservative Journalist is what you call Andy Ngo.
  7. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    Stop legitimizing violent communists. The new antifa is morally as corrupt as our granddaddies’, but their death toll is lower for now

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AndrewR

    FORTUNE: Do not ever attempt to get an aviation license. You have zero ability to detect objects which are flying over your head.

  8. @Robert Dolan
    An absurd lie that the Portland Police side with conservatives.

    That has never happened.

    The mayor is a far left loon and he sets the antifa tone for Portland.

    Replies: @Thomas, @notanon, @LG

    Little more complicated. One Portland Police lieutenant was having chats with Joey Gibson, the organizer of Patriot Prayer, mostly planning logistics to make sure events ran smoothly. That got twisted by the media and local politicians though into “siding” with conservatives. Also, Antifa throws bottles and rocks, which cops don’t like, and which leads to them eventually always getting dispersed, often with riot control agents. Patriot Prayer and the other right groups are better behaved, especially to police, so police naturally are better behaved back.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Thomas

    Words are more important than deeds, the NYT would tell you.

    , @Svigor
    @Thomas


    Little more complicated. One Portland Police lieutenant was having chats with Joey Gibson, the organizer of Patriot Prayer, mostly planning logistics to make sure events ran smoothly. That got twisted by the media and local politicians though into “siding” with conservatives.
     
    That's better than what (((Big Media))) usually twists into cops "siding" with "fascists"; cops saving the oligarchs' mob's asses by forming a wall between them and the "fascists."

    In places like Portland, the cops are absolutely on the side of the oligarchs' mob. Orders straight from the top, boys. Same as the Portland gov't, from the mayor to the DA's office. Everyone knows this, except for NPCs, and perhaps the addle-pated, drugs-enstupored mobbers themselves.

  9. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  10. If Andy were a white man, no one would have heard of him. Much less the NYT.

    what protesters said were vegan coconut milkshakes

    Can you hear their chants? “Vegan coconut! Totally! We promise!”

    Definitely not: “Hey Hey Ho Ho Coconut Has Got to Go!”

    That was probably “the conservatives”..you know them

    • Replies: @68W58
    @Mr McKenna

    “Coconut” that’s intentional, given that that’s what Asian identity groups call conservative Asians (brown on the outside, white on the inside).

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Mr McKenna

    At least they're wringing some last use out of that 50 year old chant. I really do wish I was single right now, as I'd really be up for kicking some ass.

  11. @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    “Neoliberal” would imply they’re free-market conservatives or something. They’re mostly left-anarchists or Communists. Though plenty I’m sure are ideologically flexible, enough to run local businesses (like Cider Riot), or take Soros money.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Thomas

    Neoliberal in the Bill Clinton sense. “New Democrat” or “Third-Way” type of ideology. The term has different meanings in the US and UK.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrats

    Good article as “The Nation” goes.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-rise-and-fall-of-clintonism/

  12. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    She is also the lawyer representing Damore against google.

    Good for her.

    She is a Punjabi Sikh, and doesn’t mind fighting, apparently.

    Like the British, the RNC is outsourcing the mercenary positions to outsiders like DJT while they sit back and reap the benefits.

    She led the prayer at the RNC convention, in Punjabi, just prior to Trump getting the nomination.

    I suspect this is not the last we have heard from her.

    • Replies: @ACommenter
    @Anonymous

    sikhs tend to be conservative and pro-Anglo- they especially understand the threat of globalist 'invite the [muslim] world'

  13. Anonymous[415] • Disclaimer says:

    A lawyer for Mr. Ngo, Harmeet K. Dhillon, did not respond to messages seeking comment, but called out on Twitter to “Antifa criminals” whom she said

    “I plan to sue into oblivion and then sow salt into their yoga studios and avocado toast stands until nothing grows there, not even the glimmer of a violent criminal conspiracy aided by the effete impotence of a cowed city government.”

    Lol!

    Harmeet Kaur Dhillon, a defamation lawyer, used to be part of the Republican National Committee, iirc.

    She looks a bit like Nikki Haley, which is not surprising, since both of them are ethnic Indian Jat Sikhs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Though no doubt the IQ of the Ivy League-educated Dhillion is probably 40 points higher than Haley’s.

    , @indocon
    @Anonymous

    A true jatti. She is ex head of SF Republican Party.

  14. @Thomas
    @Robert Dolan

    Little more complicated. One Portland Police lieutenant was having chats with Joey Gibson, the organizer of Patriot Prayer, mostly planning logistics to make sure events ran smoothly. That got twisted by the media and local politicians though into "siding" with conservatives. Also, Antifa throws bottles and rocks, which cops don't like, and which leads to them eventually always getting dispersed, often with riot control agents. Patriot Prayer and the other right groups are better behaved, especially to police, so police naturally are better behaved back.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Svigor

    Words are more important than deeds, the NYT would tell you.

  15. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s

    A lot of the resistance groups in the war were hardly better than the nazis themselves. The French resistance were pretty much all Stalinists who didn’t even oppose the nazis until they went to war with the U.S.S.R. After the war they engaged in some pretty heinous reprisals against the Vichy “collaborators.”

  16. Mt. Trump,

    Send at least 30% of border refugees to Portland, especially the Congolese and Somali ones.

    Antifa seems curiously silent on Middle Eastern Wars dont they? $tarving Yemeni children? Kurdish and Syrian refugees? Im not callin’ em’ billionaire-supported sellouts or anything……..jus’ sayin’.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    @Anon

    Antifa support the Syrian Kurdish YPG:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnoIV8yxp1s

    Some Antifa have even supposedly been to the Kurdish sector of Syria for military training:

    https://www.infowars.com/report-antifa-receiving-military-training-in-syria-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-travelled-to-middle-east/

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Anon

    , @Anon
    @Anon

    Unfortunately you cannot prevent them from going to whatever state or city they want to once they are in the country.

  17. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    Well said.

    Antifa looks to be made up of almost exclusively UMC and above regressors to the mean in the line of Bill Ayers.

    Their LARPing is literally Quixotic. Unfortunately they’re not tilting at windmills but at regular Americans committed to defending our national heritage.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius


    Antifa looks to be made up of almost exclusively UMC and above regressors to the mean in the line of Bill Ayers.
     
    United Methodists?

    And isn't he Bill Uluru now?


    http://www.traveller.com.au/content/dam/images/h/1/c/k/9/a/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.h1cd1i.png/1553562116301.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Helena

  18. OT: the first minute of this is hysterical:

    If you don’t know who soph is, you should.

    • Replies: @Pat Shuff
    @Thomas

    Thanks, enjoyed that. Retired, I'm boomer cohort. She's a firehose of, well, content.

  19. a non-existent catfished fantasy figure

    Can we have a refresher on the difference between catfishing and gaslighting?

    Portland’s long history of street activism

    Ramona might have been a brat at times, but I don’t recall Beezus, Henry, and Ribsy ever engaging in “street activism”.

    Their creator is still kicking at 103, but hasn’t lived in Portland for decades. I wonder what she thinks about all this.

    http://www.beverlycleary.com

    “I plan to sue into oblivion and then sow salt into their yoga studios and avocado toast stands until nothing grows there, not even the glimmer of a violent criminal conspiracy aided by the effete impotence of a cowed city government.”

    This dot happens to be one tasty cherry.

    She has a way with invective words. Is she related to Dhillon Thomas or Bob Dhillon?

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Sam Patch
    @Reg Cæsar

    I thought Ramona, Beezus and the rest of the gang lived in Seattle. No?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  20. BS – this was yuge. The people that hit him will be prosecuted – female Asian prosecuter, oh my!

  21. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    The false term “anti-fascists” is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation

    Huey Long said that when fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.

    There have been plenty of examples of the truth of this, then and now.

  22. @AndrewR
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Stop legitimizing violent communists. The new antifa is morally as corrupt as our granddaddies', but their death toll is lower for now

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    FORTUNE: Do not ever attempt to get an aviation license. You have zero ability to detect objects which are flying over your head.

  23. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s

    I’m sure those heroes would have fought doubly hard against the terrible fascists if they could have known exactly what sort of progressive and vibrant future they were helping preserve for their great grandchildren.

  24. @Desiderius
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well said.

    Antifa looks to be made up of almost exclusively UMC and above regressors to the mean in the line of Bill Ayers.

    Their LARPing is literally Quixotic. Unfortunately they’re not tilting at windmills but at regular Americans committed to defending our national heritage.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Antifa looks to be made up of almost exclusively UMC and above regressors to the mean in the line of Bill Ayers.

    United Methodists?

    And isn’t he Bill Uluru now?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    Is this Antifa Rock?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Helena
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks for the giggle. There is certainly something very deviant about these European types who think hills are there for climbing. Thankfully visitors can now abandon those uncomfortable hiking boots and instead settle down to a bit of soothing sand painting.

  25. @Bill P
    I saw Andy Ngo on Tucker Carlson tonight, and it's remarkable that such a soft-spoken, small, gay Asian man is so brave. He desrves every dollar of the support he's getting.

    Speaking of support, it's a great thing to see conservatives helping out their own financially. Antifa has been supported in Portland for decades by certain wealthy institutions and individuals. This stuff makes a difference.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Thoughts, @Svigor

    Look, I don’t think anyone, whether on the Left or Right, should be beaten up for their political beliefs. Full stop.

    Ngo seems not so much right wing, but vaguely libertarian. Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He’s putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    I would never step into this crowd unless I had a crew with cameras and fighting skills that had my back and even then, it’s frankly just not worth it. I know full well that the police and the media are on antifa’s side, especially in a place like Portland. Best to avoid stepping into a hornet’s nest, but Ngo seems to relish the punishment. He is either autistic, sadistic or doing it to raise money. Likely, all three. The rational move is to avoid these people as they are violent and the system is on their side.

    • Disagree: Cloudbuster, Peter Frost
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Clifford Brown

    Didn't he just get spotted and then it was all over?

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    , @Thomas
    @Clifford Brown


    Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He’s putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?
     
    If he did expect this to happen, then I'd say he was looking to bait them into damaging themselves. He's likely caused Antifa and their defenders and enablers more trouble than anyone has managed to since Trump's inauguration.

    Even before this, Ngo's work should be deserving of the respect of the kind of people who frequent this blog, I should think. In addition to covering Antifa, he has been the only person exposing a recent spate of LGBT-whatever attempted hate hoaxes in Portland defaming Proud Boys, and he's documented the failure of multiculturalism in Islamicizing Britain. And he's done all of this regardless of how much easier it would be, on ascriptive and biographical factors alone, for him to be just another SJW journalist.

    Replies: @CCZ

    , @vinteuil
    @Clifford Brown


    He’s putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens.
     
    I'm trying to imagine how deeply evil you have to be for that to be your first reaction to this story - and I find I cannot do it.
    , @notanon
    @Clifford Brown


    What the fuck does he expect to happen?
     
    prove that local dem politicians have told the police to let antifa attack people?
    , @Paul Mendez
    @Clifford Brown

    While you’re at it, why don’t you opine on how autistic those Colonists were to put themselves in danger in places like Concord and Bunker Hill? After all, the rational move was to avoid those Redcoats, as they were violent and the system was on their side.

  26. So… if activists did to “Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino” what Antifa did to Andy, would it be, like, not a big deal? If so, why aren’t activists doing to Brian Levin what Antifa did to Andy?

    Blandly and smugly asking for for friend.

  27. There’s debate over who did and didn’t say what to articulate this basic point, but the great H.L. Mencken did say this:

    “Fascism is not likely to be identical with the kinds on tap in Germany, Italy and Russia; indeed, it is very apt to come in under the name of anti-Fascism.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @JimDandy

    Thanks!

    It feels like antifa are just idiotic pawns in someone else's game.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/04/anti-fascism/

  28. @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius


    Antifa looks to be made up of almost exclusively UMC and above regressors to the mean in the line of Bill Ayers.
     
    United Methodists?

    And isn't he Bill Uluru now?


    http://www.traveller.com.au/content/dam/images/h/1/c/k/9/a/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.h1cd1i.png/1553562116301.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Helena

    Is this Antifa Rock?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @El Dato

    It’s only fair since the other end is Confederate Rock.

  29. @Clifford Brown
    @Bill P

    Look, I don't think anyone, whether on the Left or Right, should be beaten up for their political beliefs. Full stop.

    Ngo seems not so much right wing, but vaguely libertarian. Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He's putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    I would never step into this crowd unless I had a crew with cameras and fighting skills that had my back and even then, it's frankly just not worth it. I know full well that the police and the media are on antifa's side, especially in a place like Portland. Best to avoid stepping into a hornet's nest, but Ngo seems to relish the punishment. He is either autistic, sadistic or doing it to raise money. Likely, all three. The rational move is to avoid these people as they are violent and the system is on their side.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Thomas, @vinteuil, @notanon, @Paul Mendez

    Didn’t he just get spotted and then it was all over?

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @El Dato

    No, he got jumped. Took several blows to the head.

  30. Isn’t it funny how a sainted gay POC who picks the wrong side suddenly turns into a slant-eyed faggot with a target on his back?

  31. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    1a. This shocks me. Is the New York Times in the midst of another period of Stephen Jay Gouldian “punctuated equilibrium” evolution to a yet even more biased stasis? And this is in the news section, not the opinion/editorial section, right? Ngo is basically a war reporter. Did the Times complain that Daniel Pearl was looking for trouble when his noggin was removed with a janbiya?

    1b. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ngo has been hospitalized for a “subarachnoid hemorrhage, or brain bleed.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/antifa-attacks-a-journalist-11562021361

    1c. What’s the deal with attorney Harmeet Dhillon. She comes across like a Gloria Allred of the right. She was representing James Damore, but is anything really happening there? She wouldn’t comment to the Times about Ngo, but she posted a series of what I think are slightly reckless tweets about the incident, some reportedly deleted. The right needs more Covington kid-style attorneys: Few words, lots of menace, real lawsuits pursued to the end.

    2. Mickey Kaus has risen from the dead. No one has seen him in the flesh for years, and his Twitter feed is rumored to be written by an AI bot. There have been occasional blurry smartphone photos posted online on cryptozoology forums of a disheveled, drooling guy with his comb-over blowing in the wind cruising through Venice in a dirty old Nissan Z with the vanity plate FLYING KAUSMAN. But this week comes the announcement of the Kausfiles newsletter. It looks very promising. It’s coherent, unlike his Twitter feed, and it mixes up the subject matter: immigration, cars, and more: https://kaus.substack.com/

    3. Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species. My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct (population to zero) if we don’t make certain changes relating to climate change. I haven’t heard this before. Sea level rising, increased temperature, latitudes nearer the poles becoming more livable and agricultural while equatorial countries become unpleasant, skin cancers, animal extinctions, starvation, wars, migration. But human extinction? Is this a serious claim? It’s not in the UN climate experts report; in fact, the UN projects quite a population boom (in Africa, at least). Why is Harris not being called on this sort of drama queening?

    Asked by Chuck Todd to describe her climate-change plan, Harris replied briskly and corrected his terms: The rapid warming of the planet should be called the “climate crisis” because “it’s an existential threat to us as a species.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/kamala-harris-first-mention-green-new-deal/592915/

    • LOL: fnn
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Anon


    My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct ....
     
    No, when Kamala Harriss refers to her species, she means the alien lizard species who actually run the show and are slowly torturing and killing Homo sapiens with their ungodly policies.
    , @El Dato
    @Anon


    Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species.
     
    The Promised Land may become uninhabitable.

    That would be sad. Mesopotamia is where it all started.
    , @Pericles
    @Anon

    "Existential threat" sounds very serious and learned, but can, if need be, be applied to whatever.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross

    , @Desiderius
    @Anon


    But human extinction? Is this a serious claim?
     
    If you believe human activity is a serious factor in the climate system, then sure. It would certainly be prudent to consider the possibility of that factor destabilizing what was heretofore a broadly homeostatic system.
    , @Peripatetic Commenter
    @Anon


    But human extinction? Is this a serious claim?
     
    Well, to be fair they are really only calling for the extinction of some humans, especially the ones that engage in thought crime.

    You might be one of those humans.
    , @Forbes
    @Anon

    After taking outrage to hysteria, the next level up is "existential threat"...

  32. istevefan says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation. The point being: Ngo was on the wrong side so he had it coming somehow. He was probably trying to push his face into somebody's fist just to get attention.

    I especially like this passage:

    The conservative journalist has built a prominent presence in part by going into situations where there may be conflict and then publicizing the results.
     
    Has the NYT even referred to anybody ever as a "liberal journalist? " (Admittedly, that's usually redundant). But if he were a typical liberal journalist they'd be praising his brave risk taking to get a story. Instead, he's the troublemaker for interfered with some antifa guy's day out larping.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Oleaginous Outrager, @ic1000, @dvorak

    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.

    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn’t fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible. Or they describe the victim as being hit by a car, as though the car was to blame.

    I recall a few weeks back a story about a White woman mistakenly getting into a car she thought was her ride-share. They wrote she mistakenly entered the car, the door locks engaged, she could not get out and was later found to have been strangled.

    Minimizing what happened to Ngo is a piece of cake.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @istevefan


    They wrote she mistakenly entered the car, the door locks engaged, she could not get out and was later found to have been strangled.
     
    Modern Stephen King novels basically write themselves.
    , @Pericles
    @istevefan


    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn’t fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible.

     

    Don't forget "tragically gone wrong".

    Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager

    , @Alden
    @istevefan

    It's all the car's fault.

  33. @El Dato
    @Clifford Brown

    Didn't he just get spotted and then it was all over?

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    No, he got jumped. Took several blows to the head.

  34. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimDandy
    There's debate over who did and didn't say what to articulate this basic point, but the great H.L. Mencken did say this:

    "Fascism is not likely to be identical with the kinds on tap in Germany, Italy and Russia; indeed, it is very apt to come in under the name of anti-Fascism."

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Thanks!

    It feels like antifa are just idiotic pawns in someone else’s game.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/04/anti-fascism/

  35. @Clifford Brown
    @Bill P

    Look, I don't think anyone, whether on the Left or Right, should be beaten up for their political beliefs. Full stop.

    Ngo seems not so much right wing, but vaguely libertarian. Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He's putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    I would never step into this crowd unless I had a crew with cameras and fighting skills that had my back and even then, it's frankly just not worth it. I know full well that the police and the media are on antifa's side, especially in a place like Portland. Best to avoid stepping into a hornet's nest, but Ngo seems to relish the punishment. He is either autistic, sadistic or doing it to raise money. Likely, all three. The rational move is to avoid these people as they are violent and the system is on their side.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Thomas, @vinteuil, @notanon, @Paul Mendez

    Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He’s putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    If he did expect this to happen, then I’d say he was looking to bait them into damaging themselves. He’s likely caused Antifa and their defenders and enablers more trouble than anyone has managed to since Trump’s inauguration.

    Even before this, Ngo’s work should be deserving of the respect of the kind of people who frequent this blog, I should think. In addition to covering Antifa, he has been the only person exposing a recent spate of LGBT-whatever attempted hate hoaxes in Portland defaming Proud Boys, and he’s documented the failure of multiculturalism in Islamicizing Britain. And he’s done all of this regardless of how much easier it would be, on ascriptive and biographical factors alone, for him to be just another SJW journalist.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    @Thomas

    To a leftist professor, he was a "fascist" there to "dox" antifa. And this intellect is on the public university payroll!!

    "Fascist doxing campaigns are designed to demonstrate to antifascists that the [white] supremacists know where they live and that they may be victims of violence for their oppositional activity."


    https://twitter.com/professor_stas/status/1145726811122393089

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Pericles, @Redneck farmer

  36. CCZ says:
    @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    A Soros Jewish self-defense society?? Thank you Jewish Haaretz for reminding us that diversity, inclusion, and anti-white hate is our strength.

    “On America’s Streets, Antifa’s Militant Anti-fascism Isn’t Terrorism – It’s Self-defense”

    “After an anti-fascist punched a right-wing journalist in Portland, militant anti-fascists and Antifa – who counter far right violence – have been branded as ‘violent gangs,’ even ‘terrorists.’ Those definitions are completely wrong.”

    By Stanislav Vysotsky, Assistant Professor of Sociology and Criminology at the University of Wisconsin – Whitewater. His research has been published in journals and the forthcoming book “Inside Antifa: The Tactics, Culture, and Practice of Militant Antifascism”

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-militant-anti-fascism-is-self-defense-1.7425726

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @CCZ

    “On America’s Streets, Antifa’s Militant Anti-fascism Isn’t Terrorism – It’s Self-defense”
     

    Is it the same kind of "self-defense" shown against obnoxious J in the early 30s in Germany?

    No?

    Then explain!


    “After an anti-fascist punched a right-wing journalist in Portland, militant anti-fascists and Antifa – who counter far right violence – have been branded as ‘violent gangs,’ even ‘terrorists.’ Those definitions are completely wrong.”
     
    Punching is a peaceful act. It's like preventively bombing stuff in Syria or shooting kids behind a chain-link fence.
  37. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    As the fashion-backward successors to the Free Mumia/Zapatista dirtbags from the ’90s they are, I’d expect, very much against “neoliberal” globalization, in preference to the woker totalitarian-transgender forms of same. Ideologically Antifa is a mere grab-bag of whatever the most sullen middle-class twentysomethings in the college towns are on about these days.

    • Agree: fish
  38. “…with a black-clad activist striking the conservative journalist Andy Ngo in the face while others slimed him with what protesters said were vegan coconut milkshakes. Mr. Ngo was left bloodied and obviously shaken…”

    bored identity simply can’t imagine how much of good laugh this graceful writer and a fierce digger * and his handlers at Ol’ Gray Ho had while allowing that pun to go in print.

    Mike Baker, the asset :

    https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2019/05/mike-baker-2.jpg?quality=70&auto=webp&crop=1:1&width=1000

    * https://www.nytco.com/press/comings-and-goings-on-national/

  39. @Thomas
    @Kronos


    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?
     
    "Neoliberal" would imply they're free-market conservatives or something. They're mostly left-anarchists or Communists. Though plenty I'm sure are ideologically flexible, enough to run local businesses (like Cider Riot), or take Soros money.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Neoliberal in the Bill Clinton sense. “New Democrat” or “Third-Way” type of ideology. The term has different meanings in the US and UK.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrats

    Good article as “The Nation” goes.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-rise-and-fall-of-clintonism/

  40. More graciousness and fierce digging:

    What a piece of scribe;

    Inquiring Antifa about their list of milkshake ingredients is like asking Reverend Jim about his Kool-Aid recipe.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    @bored identity

    Haven't seen any evidence for the cement claim (also worth pointing out that, IIRC, the Portland cops only passed it on as a rumor they heard and were investigating; they didn't make the claim themselves, as the JYT is claiming).

    Oh, speaking of po-po, this one didn't help their case much, AFAIC:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJ5f1JMKns&t=1211s

  41. @Anon
    Mt. Trump,

    Send at least 30% of border refugees to Portland, especially the Congolese and Somali ones.

    Antifa seems curiously silent on Middle Eastern Wars dont they? $tarving Yemeni children? Kurdish and Syrian refugees? Im not callin' em' billionaire-supported sellouts or anything........jus' sayin'.

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Anon

    Antifa support the Syrian Kurdish YPG:

    Some Antifa have even supposedly been to the Kurdish sector of Syria for military training:

    https://www.infowars.com/report-antifa-receiving-military-training-in-syria-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-travelled-to-middle-east/

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Digital Samizdat

    Antifa joins the CIA's proxy army in Syria.

    Wink, wink.

    , @Anon
    @Digital Samizdat

    Did Alex Jones make up his mind this time? I wouldn't read about Syrain Antifas only to find out that it was all fiction, like the fiction about Sandy Hook being fiction. I mean, I am not upset that he lied (either in 2016, or during the 2019 trial), but the mixed messages indicate a certain lack of spine and conviction.

    On the other hand, seeing someone quote inforwars at this time reminds me of those Evangelical small churches, where the leader tells them that The Second Coming is scheduled for next Wednesday. After the deadline passes, the leader can always trick his followers that god told him that the world got better, and apocalypse was rescheduled. The followers, who are gullible enough to believe the first "prophecy", are certainly going to accept this second "prophecy" as well. Alex Jones seems very convincing for some people.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

  42. “He’s a political pundit who certainly makes the most out of his conflicts, which sometimes turn violent on him,” said Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino. “But to his credit, I’ve never seen him be the physical aggressor in the posts that he’s made generally.”

    Does this skultalmuduggery ever end?

  43. Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, called for a federal investigation, declaring without evidence that officials in Oregon’s largest city were allowing the violence as a result of their own liberal sympathies.

    Good for him. Will he next demand an investigation of Charlottesville? [Holding my breath!]

  44. a Punch and a Milkshake Rumor

    “Roumor”?

    So…it didn’t really happen?

    • Replies: @guest
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Maybe the rumor is about what the milkshake contained? Which no one cares about, unless it was poisoned or something.

  45. CCZ says:
    @Thomas
    @Clifford Brown


    Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He’s putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?
     
    If he did expect this to happen, then I'd say he was looking to bait them into damaging themselves. He's likely caused Antifa and their defenders and enablers more trouble than anyone has managed to since Trump's inauguration.

    Even before this, Ngo's work should be deserving of the respect of the kind of people who frequent this blog, I should think. In addition to covering Antifa, he has been the only person exposing a recent spate of LGBT-whatever attempted hate hoaxes in Portland defaming Proud Boys, and he's documented the failure of multiculturalism in Islamicizing Britain. And he's done all of this regardless of how much easier it would be, on ascriptive and biographical factors alone, for him to be just another SJW journalist.

    Replies: @CCZ

    To a leftist professor, he was a “fascist” there to “dox” antifa. And this intellect is on the public university payroll!!

    “Fascist doxing campaigns are designed to demonstrate to antifascists that the [white] supremacists know where they live and that they may be victims of violence for their oppositional activity.”

    https://twitter.com/professor_stas/status/1145726811122393089

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @CCZ

    Yes, this.

    Men are women and women are men and we have always been at war with Eastasia.

    , @guest
    @CCZ

    "ideologically compelled to eliminate its enemies"

    I wish.

    , @Pericles
    @CCZ

    (Assistant) Professor Vysotsky cries out as he strikes you.

    https://uww.academia.edu/StanislavVysotsky

    Top review on RateMyProfessors: "Stas is amazing. Do not let most of these reviews deter you from taking him. Literally the easiest college class Ive ever taken."

    , @Redneck farmer
    @CCZ

    And some people really wonder why we want restrictions on immigration.

  46. @Anon
    1a. This shocks me. Is the New York Times in the midst of another period of Stephen Jay Gouldian "punctuated equilibrium" evolution to a yet even more biased stasis? And this is in the news section, not the opinion/editorial section, right? Ngo is basically a war reporter. Did the Times complain that Daniel Pearl was looking for trouble when his noggin was removed with a janbiya?

    1b. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ngo has been hospitalized for a "subarachnoid hemorrhage, or brain bleed." https://www.wsj.com/articles/antifa-attacks-a-journalist-11562021361

    1c. What's the deal with attorney Harmeet Dhillon. She comes across like a Gloria Allred of the right. She was representing James Damore, but is anything really happening there? She wouldn't comment to the Times about Ngo, but she posted a series of what I think are slightly reckless tweets about the incident, some reportedly deleted. The right needs more Covington kid-style attorneys: Few words, lots of menace, real lawsuits pursued to the end.

    2. Mickey Kaus has risen from the dead. No one has seen him in the flesh for years, and his Twitter feed is rumored to be written by an AI bot. There have been occasional blurry smartphone photos posted online on cryptozoology forums of a disheveled, drooling guy with his comb-over blowing in the wind cruising through Venice in a dirty old Nissan Z with the vanity plate FLYING KAUSMAN. But this week comes the announcement of the Kausfiles newsletter. It looks very promising. It's coherent, unlike his Twitter feed, and it mixes up the subject matter: immigration, cars, and more: https://kaus.substack.com/

    3. Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species. My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct (population to zero) if we don't make certain changes relating to climate change. I haven't heard this before. Sea level rising, increased temperature, latitudes nearer the poles becoming more livable and agricultural while equatorial countries become unpleasant, skin cancers, animal extinctions, starvation, wars, migration. But human extinction? Is this a serious claim? It's not in the UN climate experts report; in fact, the UN projects quite a population boom (in Africa, at least). Why is Harris not being called on this sort of drama queening?


    Asked by Chuck Todd to describe her climate-change plan, Harris replied briskly and corrected his terms: The rapid warming of the planet should be called the "climate crisis" because "it’s an existential threat to us as a species."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/kamala-harris-first-mention-green-new-deal/592915/
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @El Dato, @Pericles, @Desiderius, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Forbes

    My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct ….

    No, when Kamala Harriss refers to her species, she means the alien lizard species who actually run the show and are slowly torturing and killing Homo sapiens with their ungodly policies.

  47. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    @CCZ
    @Thomas

    To a leftist professor, he was a "fascist" there to "dox" antifa. And this intellect is on the public university payroll!!

    "Fascist doxing campaigns are designed to demonstrate to antifascists that the [white] supremacists know where they live and that they may be victims of violence for their oppositional activity."


    https://twitter.com/professor_stas/status/1145726811122393089

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Pericles, @Redneck farmer

    Yes, this.

    Men are women and women are men and we have always been at war with Eastasia.

  48. The Guardian’s Jason Wilson was photographed embedded with the antifa. He later wrote a dismissive article about the Ngo beating, and when he got some push back he wrote something about needing “self-care” and set his twitter to private.

    Clearly, cut from the same cloth as Enrique Lister.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @jimmyriddle


    he wrote something about needing “self-care” and set his twitter to private.
     
    Yeah. The content of those milkshakes is getting dubioser still.
    , @anonymous
    @jimmyriddle

    Was this photograph altered in photoshop or is this Guardian Newspaper J creature really....

    foaming at the mouth?

    JR
    Left Behind in Chicago

    , @guest
    @jimmyriddle

    They're not in drugs. They're on Which Side Are You On?

  49. @Digital Samizdat
    @Anon

    Antifa support the Syrian Kurdish YPG:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnoIV8yxp1s

    Some Antifa have even supposedly been to the Kurdish sector of Syria for military training:

    https://www.infowars.com/report-antifa-receiving-military-training-in-syria-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-travelled-to-middle-east/

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Anon

    Antifa joins the CIA’s proxy army in Syria.

    Wink, wink.

  50. @istevefan
    @Hypnotoad666


    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.
     
    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn't fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible. Or they describe the victim as being hit by a car, as though the car was to blame.

    I recall a few weeks back a story about a White woman mistakenly getting into a car she thought was her ride-share. They wrote she mistakenly entered the car, the door locks engaged, she could not get out and was later found to have been strangled.

    Minimizing what happened to Ngo is a piece of cake.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Alden

    They wrote she mistakenly entered the car, the door locks engaged, she could not get out and was later found to have been strangled.

    Modern Stephen King novels basically write themselves.

  51. Surprising how uninformative a headline containing Punch and Milkshake can be.

  52. @Hippopotamusdrome


    a Punch and a Milkshake Rumor

     

    "Roumor"?

    So...it didn't really happen?

    Replies: @guest

    Maybe the rumor is about what the milkshake contained? Which no one cares about, unless it was poisoned or something.

  53. @Anon
    1a. This shocks me. Is the New York Times in the midst of another period of Stephen Jay Gouldian "punctuated equilibrium" evolution to a yet even more biased stasis? And this is in the news section, not the opinion/editorial section, right? Ngo is basically a war reporter. Did the Times complain that Daniel Pearl was looking for trouble when his noggin was removed with a janbiya?

    1b. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ngo has been hospitalized for a "subarachnoid hemorrhage, or brain bleed." https://www.wsj.com/articles/antifa-attacks-a-journalist-11562021361

    1c. What's the deal with attorney Harmeet Dhillon. She comes across like a Gloria Allred of the right. She was representing James Damore, but is anything really happening there? She wouldn't comment to the Times about Ngo, but she posted a series of what I think are slightly reckless tweets about the incident, some reportedly deleted. The right needs more Covington kid-style attorneys: Few words, lots of menace, real lawsuits pursued to the end.

    2. Mickey Kaus has risen from the dead. No one has seen him in the flesh for years, and his Twitter feed is rumored to be written by an AI bot. There have been occasional blurry smartphone photos posted online on cryptozoology forums of a disheveled, drooling guy with his comb-over blowing in the wind cruising through Venice in a dirty old Nissan Z with the vanity plate FLYING KAUSMAN. But this week comes the announcement of the Kausfiles newsletter. It looks very promising. It's coherent, unlike his Twitter feed, and it mixes up the subject matter: immigration, cars, and more: https://kaus.substack.com/

    3. Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species. My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct (population to zero) if we don't make certain changes relating to climate change. I haven't heard this before. Sea level rising, increased temperature, latitudes nearer the poles becoming more livable and agricultural while equatorial countries become unpleasant, skin cancers, animal extinctions, starvation, wars, migration. But human extinction? Is this a serious claim? It's not in the UN climate experts report; in fact, the UN projects quite a population boom (in Africa, at least). Why is Harris not being called on this sort of drama queening?


    Asked by Chuck Todd to describe her climate-change plan, Harris replied briskly and corrected his terms: The rapid warming of the planet should be called the "climate crisis" because "it’s an existential threat to us as a species."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/kamala-harris-first-mention-green-new-deal/592915/
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @El Dato, @Pericles, @Desiderius, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Forbes

    Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species.

    The Promised Land may become uninhabitable.

    That would be sad. Mesopotamia is where it all started.

  54. @CCZ
    @Thomas

    To a leftist professor, he was a "fascist" there to "dox" antifa. And this intellect is on the public university payroll!!

    "Fascist doxing campaigns are designed to demonstrate to antifascists that the [white] supremacists know where they live and that they may be victims of violence for their oppositional activity."


    https://twitter.com/professor_stas/status/1145726811122393089

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Pericles, @Redneck farmer

    “ideologically compelled to eliminate its enemies”

    I wish.

  55. vegan coconut milkshakes

    “No animal was harmed in the beaning of this Nazi subhuman white Asian provocateur.”

  56. Fueling the conservative alarm was the Portland Police Bureau’s own suggestion on Twitter during the height of the protests — later walked back slightly — that anti-fascist protesters had laced their milkshakes with quick-drying cement before lobbing them at the marchers.

    So it’s true?

  57. @Anon
    1a. This shocks me. Is the New York Times in the midst of another period of Stephen Jay Gouldian "punctuated equilibrium" evolution to a yet even more biased stasis? And this is in the news section, not the opinion/editorial section, right? Ngo is basically a war reporter. Did the Times complain that Daniel Pearl was looking for trouble when his noggin was removed with a janbiya?

    1b. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ngo has been hospitalized for a "subarachnoid hemorrhage, or brain bleed." https://www.wsj.com/articles/antifa-attacks-a-journalist-11562021361

    1c. What's the deal with attorney Harmeet Dhillon. She comes across like a Gloria Allred of the right. She was representing James Damore, but is anything really happening there? She wouldn't comment to the Times about Ngo, but she posted a series of what I think are slightly reckless tweets about the incident, some reportedly deleted. The right needs more Covington kid-style attorneys: Few words, lots of menace, real lawsuits pursued to the end.

    2. Mickey Kaus has risen from the dead. No one has seen him in the flesh for years, and his Twitter feed is rumored to be written by an AI bot. There have been occasional blurry smartphone photos posted online on cryptozoology forums of a disheveled, drooling guy with his comb-over blowing in the wind cruising through Venice in a dirty old Nissan Z with the vanity plate FLYING KAUSMAN. But this week comes the announcement of the Kausfiles newsletter. It looks very promising. It's coherent, unlike his Twitter feed, and it mixes up the subject matter: immigration, cars, and more: https://kaus.substack.com/

    3. Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species. My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct (population to zero) if we don't make certain changes relating to climate change. I haven't heard this before. Sea level rising, increased temperature, latitudes nearer the poles becoming more livable and agricultural while equatorial countries become unpleasant, skin cancers, animal extinctions, starvation, wars, migration. But human extinction? Is this a serious claim? It's not in the UN climate experts report; in fact, the UN projects quite a population boom (in Africa, at least). Why is Harris not being called on this sort of drama queening?


    Asked by Chuck Todd to describe her climate-change plan, Harris replied briskly and corrected his terms: The rapid warming of the planet should be called the "climate crisis" because "it’s an existential threat to us as a species."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/kamala-harris-first-mention-green-new-deal/592915/
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @El Dato, @Pericles, @Desiderius, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Forbes

    “Existential threat” sounds very serious and learned, but can, if need be, be applied to whatever.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Pericles

    "Existential" used to mean sitting in a Paris cafe chain-smoking. Now it doesn't.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Mendez

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Pericles


    Existential threat” sounds very serious and learned,
     
    Like Camus and Sartre, or I guess they would just be "Existentialist threats."

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    , @J.Ross
    @Pericles

    Hasbarah. It comes from years of Israel saying that an unaimable modified WWII rocket the size of a child's arm is a new and potentially more complete Holocaust.

  58. @istevefan
    @Hypnotoad666


    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.
     
    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn't fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible. Or they describe the victim as being hit by a car, as though the car was to blame.

    I recall a few weeks back a story about a White woman mistakenly getting into a car she thought was her ride-share. They wrote she mistakenly entered the car, the door locks engaged, she could not get out and was later found to have been strangled.

    Minimizing what happened to Ngo is a piece of cake.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Alden

    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn’t fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible.

    Don’t forget “tragically gone wrong”.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    @Pericles

    "Poor bastards shouldn't have left their White Privilege cards at home!"

  59. @CCZ
    @Thomas

    To a leftist professor, he was a "fascist" there to "dox" antifa. And this intellect is on the public university payroll!!

    "Fascist doxing campaigns are designed to demonstrate to antifascists that the [white] supremacists know where they live and that they may be victims of violence for their oppositional activity."


    https://twitter.com/professor_stas/status/1145726811122393089

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Pericles, @Redneck farmer

    (Assistant) Professor Vysotsky cries out as he strikes you.

    https://uww.academia.edu/StanislavVysotsky

    Top review on RateMyProfessors: “Stas is amazing. Do not let most of these reviews deter you from taking him. Literally the easiest college class Ive ever taken.”

  60. @Hypnotoad666
    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation. The point being: Ngo was on the wrong side so he had it coming somehow. He was probably trying to push his face into somebody's fist just to get attention.

    I especially like this passage:

    The conservative journalist has built a prominent presence in part by going into situations where there may be conflict and then publicizing the results.
     
    Has the NYT even referred to anybody ever as a "liberal journalist? " (Admittedly, that's usually redundant). But if he were a typical liberal journalist they'd be praising his brave risk taking to get a story. Instead, he's the troublemaker for interfered with some antifa guy's day out larping.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Oleaginous Outrager, @ic1000, @dvorak

    When NYT or other MSM journalists “go into situations where there may be conflict and then publicize the results”, they’re lionized as “war reporters” and hagiographified as the bravest people in the world. Even if they never left the hotel lobby.

  61. @Clifford Brown
    @Bill P

    Look, I don't think anyone, whether on the Left or Right, should be beaten up for their political beliefs. Full stop.

    Ngo seems not so much right wing, but vaguely libertarian. Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He's putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    I would never step into this crowd unless I had a crew with cameras and fighting skills that had my back and even then, it's frankly just not worth it. I know full well that the police and the media are on antifa's side, especially in a place like Portland. Best to avoid stepping into a hornet's nest, but Ngo seems to relish the punishment. He is either autistic, sadistic or doing it to raise money. Likely, all three. The rational move is to avoid these people as they are violent and the system is on their side.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Thomas, @vinteuil, @notanon, @Paul Mendez

    He’s putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens.

    I’m trying to imagine how deeply evil you have to be for that to be your first reaction to this story – and I find I cannot do it.

  62. @Pericles
    @Anon

    "Existential threat" sounds very serious and learned, but can, if need be, be applied to whatever.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross

    “Existential” used to mean sitting in a Paris cafe chain-smoking. Now it doesn’t.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Steve Sailer

    Just goes to show how ephemeral existence truly is. Or something.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Haha, "existentialist" is a word USED by the deadbeat chain-smokers at the coffee shops. I'd never really even known what the word "existential" means, or used it in speaking or writing, until writing about the immigration invasion problem. Peak Stupidity explains.

    Replies: @Prester John

    , @Paul Mendez
    @Steve Sailer

    No, you’re thinking of Existentialism.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  63. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s

    Who, in particular, do you have in mind?

    Name three.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @vinteuil

    > Who, in particular, do you have in mind [genuine heroes who opposed fascists in the 1930s/40s]? Name three.

    OK. Without using Google, I'll nominate:
    - Jean Moulin (France)
    - Kurt Schusnigg (Austria) *
    - Rick Blaine (Casablanca)

    * Semi-ironic choice. Substitute: King of Denmark

    Replies: @J.Ross, @vinteuil

  64. @CCZ
    @Thomas

    To a leftist professor, he was a "fascist" there to "dox" antifa. And this intellect is on the public university payroll!!

    "Fascist doxing campaigns are designed to demonstrate to antifascists that the [white] supremacists know where they live and that they may be victims of violence for their oppositional activity."


    https://twitter.com/professor_stas/status/1145726811122393089

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Pericles, @Redneck farmer

    And some people really wonder why we want restrictions on immigration.

  65. @Pericles
    @istevefan


    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn’t fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible.

     

    Don't forget "tragically gone wrong".

    Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager

    “Poor bastards shouldn’t have left their White Privilege cards at home!”

  66. “a Molon Labe tattoo, a prominent slogan of contemporary fascism”

    https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1145699069677002752

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    Jews: Why are they so angry in the wrong country? The US has becoming a stomping ground of "my personal ethnic grievance - 'never again' vendetta" permanent bullshit peddlers. Soon whitey will protest against the Ottomans in front of Vienna --- no that's not going to happen.


    Young Jews on their way to ICE detention center in Elizabeth NJ.
     
    This is not how "on their way to" should be done.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @El Dato
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    That Twitter accounts is quite hate-filled, too. Shouldn't it be censored by Jack's Army of Minions.

    , @William Badwhite
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    FFS spending 20 seconds on a search engine and you learn that Molon Labe is not a "prominent slogan of contemporary fascism". Unless by "contemporary fascism" they mean "anything we don't like", which come to think of it IS what they mean by it.

    Its Greek for "come and take them" and there are several modern uses, none of which can be tied to "contemporary fascism" using any honest of the term.

    So we get it "Jewish Worker", you're just using the unfortunately too common Jewish argumentation techniques of lying and slander. Jack D, fix this please.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @guest

    , @guest
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    Jewish Worker? What is this, 1902? Or are they counting all the poor souls slaving away in sketch comedy writing rooms?

    By the way, stigmatizing "molon labe" is anti-Greek and more importantly anti-Spartan. These Jewish Workers don't want a phalanx of gleaming bronze coming at 'em, I tell you what.

  67. @CCZ
    @Kronos

    A Soros Jewish self-defense society?? Thank you Jewish Haaretz for reminding us that diversity, inclusion, and anti-white hate is our strength.

    "On America's Streets, Antifa's Militant Anti-fascism Isn't Terrorism - It's Self-defense"

    "After an anti-fascist punched a right-wing journalist in Portland, militant anti-fascists and Antifa - who counter far right violence - have been branded as 'violent gangs,' even 'terrorists.' Those definitions are completely wrong."

    By Stanislav Vysotsky, Assistant Professor of Sociology and Criminology at the University of Wisconsin - Whitewater. His research has been published in journals and the forthcoming book "Inside Antifa: The Tactics, Culture, and Practice of Militant Antifascism"

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-militant-anti-fascism-is-self-defense-1.7425726

    Replies: @El Dato

    “On America’s Streets, Antifa’s Militant Anti-fascism Isn’t Terrorism – It’s Self-defense”

    Is it the same kind of “self-defense” shown against obnoxious J in the early 30s in Germany?

    No?

    Then explain!

    “After an anti-fascist punched a right-wing journalist in Portland, militant anti-fascists and Antifa – who counter far right violence – have been branded as ‘violent gangs,’ even ‘terrorists.’ Those definitions are completely wrong.”

    Punching is a peaceful act. It’s like preventively bombing stuff in Syria or shooting kids behind a chain-link fence.

  68. @Oleaginous Outrager
    "a Molon Labe tattoo, a prominent slogan of contemporary fascism"


    https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1145699069677002752

    Replies: @El Dato, @El Dato, @William Badwhite, @guest

    Jews: Why are they so angry in the wrong country? The US has becoming a stomping ground of “my personal ethnic grievance – ‘never again’ vendetta” permanent bullshit peddlers. Soon whitey will protest against the Ottomans in front of Vienna — no that’s not going to happen.

    Young Jews on their way to ICE detention center in Elizabeth NJ.

    This is not how “on their way to” should be done.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @El Dato

    Really really tasteless obvious joke there in light of recent complaints.

  69. Slimed is a verb from “Ghost Busters.” Ngo’s getting slimed is just like Bill Murray. A joke, no harm done.

  70. @Oleaginous Outrager
    "a Molon Labe tattoo, a prominent slogan of contemporary fascism"


    https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1145699069677002752

    Replies: @El Dato, @El Dato, @William Badwhite, @guest

    That Twitter accounts is quite hate-filled, too. Shouldn’t it be censored by Jack’s Army of Minions.

  71. @jimmyriddle
    The Guardian's Jason Wilson was photographed embedded with the antifa. He later wrote a dismissive article about the Ngo beating, and when he got some push back he wrote something about needing "self-care" and set his twitter to private.


    https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1145605660303716353

    Clearly, cut from the same cloth as Enrique Lister.

    Replies: @El Dato, @anonymous, @guest

    he wrote something about needing “self-care” and set his twitter to private.

    Yeah. The content of those milkshakes is getting dubioser still.

  72. Have you guys thought that Antifa in Portland is an Implicitly White Movement?

    Michelle Malkin, Andy Ngo and Harmeet K. Dhillon…

    These are not white people. Not to mention, Harmeet’s twitter on avocado toast and yoga…though relevant to Meghan Markle, is an anti-white dogwhistle?

    Andy Ngo raised 150K? Organized by Michelle Malkin? Seriously? Are we just giving Asians more money now?

    Jews don’t go after Asians…none of these people will be out of a job.

    I’m with Antifa on this!

    The fat, blue haired white antifa types are right to want to run these ‘Asiatic Conservatives’ out of town

    I think there’s more going on here than meets the eye.

    I choose blood over water…even fat, blue-haired blood…Whites over Asians.

    Could Portland Antifa be a ProLe-white Anti-Asian movement?

    • Troll: vinteuil
    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    @Thoughts

    Brilliant generalship: "I side with the traitors because our skin is the same!"

    Go back to polluting the chans.

    , @Bragadocious
    @Thoughts

    Nice theory, but they're not pro-white.

    They actively interfere with ICE in their attempts to deport Fred Reed's sainted co-nationalists. They surround ICE and threaten them while the Portland police stands down.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Thoughts

    "Thoughts" is obviously a progressive troll trying to make this site seem like a bunch of nut-jobs. It's about as authentic as a NYT "hate crime" report involving a noose.

    But just like the noose hoaxes, the post is interesting because it shows how an SJW imagines his alt-right boogeyman.

  73. Not dull and forgettable, if you are to believe the article, Andy Ngo had it coming, for consorting with fascists and deplorables.

  74. Antifa will continue to crap on the Right until the Right puts them down.

  75. @Bill P
    I saw Andy Ngo on Tucker Carlson tonight, and it's remarkable that such a soft-spoken, small, gay Asian man is so brave. He desrves every dollar of the support he's getting.

    Speaking of support, it's a great thing to see conservatives helping out their own financially. Antifa has been supported in Portland for decades by certain wealthy institutions and individuals. This stuff makes a difference.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Thoughts, @Svigor

    Asian and Gay?

    How is he…Our Own?

    White people…oh dear….just so stupid.

  76. The Washington Post covered this in the most toothless way possible — with a bland AP story about “arrests.”

    But today, one of the main stories on thier front page is: “Lawmakers condemn ‘vulgar’ posts in secret border agent Facebook group.”

    In other words, they reversed reality. It’s words that harm, but sticks and stones actually don’t break bones.

  77. the media and local politicians covering for antifa violence makes antifa bolder which eventually leads to them jumping the shark with violence that the media and politicians can’t defend without showing their hand to normiecons.

    #

    separate but related… when a population shifts from familial morality policed by kin (honor killings etc) to a more universal morality policed by public virtue signalling how do sociopaths hide?

    what if become the biggest virtue-signalers to deflect attention onto other sinners?

    say that was correct then you’d expect to find a lot of the worst sociopaths among SJWs, especially SJW politicians, and you might expect the top layer of political SJWs in towns like Portland to be a hive of scum and villainy.

    (from my personal anecdotal experience this hypothesis fits the data)

    in which case a useful bit of “conservative” activism would be to look for SJW politicians who virtue signal the most strongly on a particular issue and reverse-project it e.g. a female SJW politician who signals hardest on feminist issues will be the most likely to have a Guatemalan slave house cleaner chained up in her basement, male SJW politicians who virtue signal most about feminism will be the most likely to be rapists etc and once you identify a potential mark go look for the proof.

    guerrilla journalism.

  78. @Robert Dolan
    An absurd lie that the Portland Police side with conservatives.

    That has never happened.

    The mayor is a far left loon and he sets the antifa tone for Portland.

    Replies: @Thomas, @notanon, @LG

    it’s almost certain most cops privately prefer patriot prayer but they’ll obey the mayor’s orders.

  79. @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization?

    both (minus the democratic)

    their self-conception is bolshevik – descendants of the Communist Party street militia of 1920s Germany whose attacks on the rallies of other parties led to the creation of the Brownshirts.

    however in the modern context of Wall St. conning the Left into identity politics they are effectively the street militia of neo-liberal economics.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    some of the organizers / organizations will be getting funded by Wall St. (not necessarily knowingly) but most are doing it for ideological reasons.

    they mostly come from all-white and prosperous backgrounds so don’t realize “no borders” is really all about unlimited cheap labor for billionaires.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @notanon

    This is similar to my own line of thought. The 1999 “Battle for Seattle” was one generally based on economics. While today’s “black-block” organizations appear only concerned with cultural issues. Essentially all appear to have connections with Colleges and Universities. The last part strongly suggests they are “Neoliberal” in nature and don’t seriously want to address economic/foreign policy.

  80. @Clifford Brown
    @Bill P

    Look, I don't think anyone, whether on the Left or Right, should be beaten up for their political beliefs. Full stop.

    Ngo seems not so much right wing, but vaguely libertarian. Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He's putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    I would never step into this crowd unless I had a crew with cameras and fighting skills that had my back and even then, it's frankly just not worth it. I know full well that the police and the media are on antifa's side, especially in a place like Portland. Best to avoid stepping into a hornet's nest, but Ngo seems to relish the punishment. He is either autistic, sadistic or doing it to raise money. Likely, all three. The rational move is to avoid these people as they are violent and the system is on their side.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Thomas, @vinteuil, @notanon, @Paul Mendez

    What the fuck does he expect to happen?

    prove that local dem politicians have told the police to let antifa attack people?

  81. @Anon
    Mt. Trump,

    Send at least 30% of border refugees to Portland, especially the Congolese and Somali ones.

    Antifa seems curiously silent on Middle Eastern Wars dont they? $tarving Yemeni children? Kurdish and Syrian refugees? Im not callin' em' billionaire-supported sellouts or anything........jus' sayin'.

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Anon

    Unfortunately you cannot prevent them from going to whatever state or city they want to once they are in the country.

  82. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    A lawyer for Mr. Ngo, Harmeet K. Dhillon, did not respond to messages seeking comment, but called out on Twitter to “Antifa criminals” whom she said

    “I plan to sue into oblivion and then sow salt into their yoga studios and avocado toast stands until nothing grows there, not even the glimmer of a violent criminal conspiracy aided by the effete impotence of a cowed city government.”
     
    Lol!

    Harmeet Kaur Dhillon, a defamation lawyer, used to be part of the Republican National Committee, iirc.

    She looks a bit like Nikki Haley, which is not surprising, since both of them are ethnic Indian Jat Sikhs.

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/12/340/340/Harmeet-Dhillon-Law-Attorney.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @indocon

    Though no doubt the IQ of the Ivy League-educated Dhillion is probably 40 points higher than Haley’s.

  83. @Thoughts
    Have you guys thought that Antifa in Portland is an Implicitly White Movement?


    Michelle Malkin, Andy Ngo and Harmeet K. Dhillon...


    These are not white people. Not to mention, Harmeet's twitter on avocado toast and yoga...though relevant to Meghan Markle, is an anti-white dogwhistle?


    Andy Ngo raised 150K? Organized by Michelle Malkin? Seriously? Are we just giving Asians more money now?

    Jews don't go after Asians...none of these people will be out of a job.

    I'm with Antifa on this!

    The fat, blue haired white antifa types are right to want to run these 'Asiatic Conservatives' out of town

    I think there's more going on here than meets the eye.

    I choose blood over water...even fat, blue-haired blood...Whites over Asians.

    Could Portland Antifa be a ProLe-white Anti-Asian movement?

    Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager, @Bragadocious, @Hypnotoad666

    Brilliant generalship: “I side with the traitors because our skin is the same!”

    Go back to polluting the chans.

  84. Shorter New York Times: “He was asking for it, with his GoPro camera and come-hither look.”

    Also “Video of the assaults? Video? Baby, who you gonna believe, me or your lyin’ eyes?”

  85. @Thomas
    OT: the first minute of this is hysterical: https://youtu.be/_16B2euF128

    If you don't know who soph is, you should.

    Replies: @Pat Shuff

    Thanks, enjoyed that. Retired, I’m boomer cohort. She’s a firehose of, well, content.

  86. @Pericles
    @Anon

    "Existential threat" sounds very serious and learned, but can, if need be, be applied to whatever.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross

    Existential threat” sounds very serious and learned,

    Like Camus and Sartre, or I guess they would just be “Existentialist threats.”

    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    @Hypnotoad666

    http://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2017/03/Existential-Threat.jpeg?resize=580%2C580

  87. @El Dato
    @Reg Cæsar

    Is this Antifa Rock?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    It’s only fair since the other end is Confederate Rock.

  88. Jack Hanson says:

    One of the more disgusting things to come out of this has been the supine conservative response to frame antifa as a “white supremacist” group and based it around the fact that they attacked a “gay asian”, thus tarring them with the sin of racism.

    Again, you think we gonna just elect our way out of this paradigm you got another thing coming.

  89. @International Jew
    I think there's going to be some serious violence once the campaign really gets under way in 2020.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon, @MBlanc46

    Not if the ratios keep going the way they’re going.

  90. Luis Enrique Marquez looks like a character out of EC Comics, the Vault-Keeper.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @the one they call Desanex

    I too noticed the saliva strands between his lips. Just short of foaming at the mouth.

  91. @Oleaginous Outrager
    "a Molon Labe tattoo, a prominent slogan of contemporary fascism"


    https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1145699069677002752

    Replies: @El Dato, @El Dato, @William Badwhite, @guest

    FFS spending 20 seconds on a search engine and you learn that Molon Labe is not a “prominent slogan of contemporary fascism”. Unless by “contemporary fascism” they mean “anything we don’t like”, which come to think of it IS what they mean by it.

    Its Greek for “come and take them” and there are several modern uses, none of which can be tied to “contemporary fascism” using any honest of the term.

    So we get it “Jewish Worker”, you’re just using the unfortunately too common Jewish argumentation techniques of lying and slander. Jack D, fix this please.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @William Badwhite

    Molon Labe is a popular slogan among gun rights activists. I don't know who else uses it. Progressives see gun rights people as their enemies, correctly.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @William Badwhite

    , @guest
    @William Badwhite

    Dude, you know 'contemporary fascism' means you, right?

    Replies: @William Badwhite

  92. @Steve Sailer
    @Pericles

    "Existential" used to mean sitting in a Paris cafe chain-smoking. Now it doesn't.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Mendez

    Just goes to show how ephemeral existence truly is. Or something.

  93. Anonymous[334] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe some real violence will be unleashed closer to 2020 and the media will have no other choice but to expose their fellow travelers?

  94. @Anon
    1a. This shocks me. Is the New York Times in the midst of another period of Stephen Jay Gouldian "punctuated equilibrium" evolution to a yet even more biased stasis? And this is in the news section, not the opinion/editorial section, right? Ngo is basically a war reporter. Did the Times complain that Daniel Pearl was looking for trouble when his noggin was removed with a janbiya?

    1b. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ngo has been hospitalized for a "subarachnoid hemorrhage, or brain bleed." https://www.wsj.com/articles/antifa-attacks-a-journalist-11562021361

    1c. What's the deal with attorney Harmeet Dhillon. She comes across like a Gloria Allred of the right. She was representing James Damore, but is anything really happening there? She wouldn't comment to the Times about Ngo, but she posted a series of what I think are slightly reckless tweets about the incident, some reportedly deleted. The right needs more Covington kid-style attorneys: Few words, lots of menace, real lawsuits pursued to the end.

    2. Mickey Kaus has risen from the dead. No one has seen him in the flesh for years, and his Twitter feed is rumored to be written by an AI bot. There have been occasional blurry smartphone photos posted online on cryptozoology forums of a disheveled, drooling guy with his comb-over blowing in the wind cruising through Venice in a dirty old Nissan Z with the vanity plate FLYING KAUSMAN. But this week comes the announcement of the Kausfiles newsletter. It looks very promising. It's coherent, unlike his Twitter feed, and it mixes up the subject matter: immigration, cars, and more: https://kaus.substack.com/

    3. Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species. My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct (population to zero) if we don't make certain changes relating to climate change. I haven't heard this before. Sea level rising, increased temperature, latitudes nearer the poles becoming more livable and agricultural while equatorial countries become unpleasant, skin cancers, animal extinctions, starvation, wars, migration. But human extinction? Is this a serious claim? It's not in the UN climate experts report; in fact, the UN projects quite a population boom (in Africa, at least). Why is Harris not being called on this sort of drama queening?


    Asked by Chuck Todd to describe her climate-change plan, Harris replied briskly and corrected his terms: The rapid warming of the planet should be called the "climate crisis" because "it’s an existential threat to us as a species."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/kamala-harris-first-mention-green-new-deal/592915/
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @El Dato, @Pericles, @Desiderius, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Forbes

    But human extinction? Is this a serious claim?

    If you believe human activity is a serious factor in the climate system, then sure. It would certainly be prudent to consider the possibility of that factor destabilizing what was heretofore a broadly homeostatic system.

  95. In Portland, a Punch and a Milkshake Rumor Feed a Fresh Round of Police Criticism

    Whoa. The whiplash was savage.

    I guess Blacks Lives Don’t Matter Anymore! Or maybe they don’t matter in Portland.

    Some day, the #LyingMSM will tell us which it is.

  96. @Anon
    1a. This shocks me. Is the New York Times in the midst of another period of Stephen Jay Gouldian "punctuated equilibrium" evolution to a yet even more biased stasis? And this is in the news section, not the opinion/editorial section, right? Ngo is basically a war reporter. Did the Times complain that Daniel Pearl was looking for trouble when his noggin was removed with a janbiya?

    1b. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ngo has been hospitalized for a "subarachnoid hemorrhage, or brain bleed." https://www.wsj.com/articles/antifa-attacks-a-journalist-11562021361

    1c. What's the deal with attorney Harmeet Dhillon. She comes across like a Gloria Allred of the right. She was representing James Damore, but is anything really happening there? She wouldn't comment to the Times about Ngo, but she posted a series of what I think are slightly reckless tweets about the incident, some reportedly deleted. The right needs more Covington kid-style attorneys: Few words, lots of menace, real lawsuits pursued to the end.

    2. Mickey Kaus has risen from the dead. No one has seen him in the flesh for years, and his Twitter feed is rumored to be written by an AI bot. There have been occasional blurry smartphone photos posted online on cryptozoology forums of a disheveled, drooling guy with his comb-over blowing in the wind cruising through Venice in a dirty old Nissan Z with the vanity plate FLYING KAUSMAN. But this week comes the announcement of the Kausfiles newsletter. It looks very promising. It's coherent, unlike his Twitter feed, and it mixes up the subject matter: immigration, cars, and more: https://kaus.substack.com/

    3. Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species. My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct (population to zero) if we don't make certain changes relating to climate change. I haven't heard this before. Sea level rising, increased temperature, latitudes nearer the poles becoming more livable and agricultural while equatorial countries become unpleasant, skin cancers, animal extinctions, starvation, wars, migration. But human extinction? Is this a serious claim? It's not in the UN climate experts report; in fact, the UN projects quite a population boom (in Africa, at least). Why is Harris not being called on this sort of drama queening?


    Asked by Chuck Todd to describe her climate-change plan, Harris replied briskly and corrected his terms: The rapid warming of the planet should be called the "climate crisis" because "it’s an existential threat to us as a species."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/kamala-harris-first-mention-green-new-deal/592915/
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @El Dato, @Pericles, @Desiderius, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Forbes

    But human extinction? Is this a serious claim?

    Well, to be fair they are really only calling for the extinction of some humans, especially the ones that engage in thought crime.

    You might be one of those humans.

  97. @Mr McKenna
    If Andy were a white man, no one would have heard of him. Much less the NYT.

    what protesters said were vegan coconut milkshakes
     
    Can you hear their chants? "Vegan coconut! Totally! We promise!"

    Definitely not: "Hey Hey Ho Ho Coconut Has Got to Go!"

    That was probably "the conservatives"..you know them

    Replies: @68W58, @Achmed E. Newman

    “Coconut” that’s intentional, given that that’s what Asian identity groups call conservative Asians (brown on the outside, white on the inside).

  98. The conservative journalist has built a prominent presence in part by going into situations where there may be conflict and then publicizing the results.

    Isn’t this what a reporter is supposed to do? It’s called reporting.

  99. @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Soros mercenaries, police auxiliaries, establishment thugs.

  100. @Hypnotoad666
    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation. The point being: Ngo was on the wrong side so he had it coming somehow. He was probably trying to push his face into somebody's fist just to get attention.

    I especially like this passage:

    The conservative journalist has built a prominent presence in part by going into situations where there may be conflict and then publicizing the results.
     
    Has the NYT even referred to anybody ever as a "liberal journalist? " (Admittedly, that's usually redundant). But if he were a typical liberal journalist they'd be praising his brave risk taking to get a story. Instead, he's the troublemaker for interfered with some antifa guy's day out larping.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Oleaginous Outrager, @ic1000, @dvorak

    > Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.

    Use of the passive tense is another slimy NYT tell. Their Good Guys actively do good things. But bad things just seem to happen to wreckers and saboteurs, sorta tough luck but they musta kinda had it coming, don’t you think? The reader has to be motivated to scour the article to its end (and between its lines) to figure out what actually happened.

    In Portland, demonstrations in recent years have led to clashes and violence. During one event last summer, skirmishes broke out that left a few people needing medical attention and the police with a collection of apparent weapons they had confiscated throughout the day. The city also saw other violent confrontations in 2017

    Looking at what Google News is able to do, it would be straightforward to train an AI like that on a set of articles, rating them on friendliness to antifa. This one’s right at the mainstream’s sweet spot.

    • Replies: @J1234
    @ic1000

    Is there a substantive difference between the NYT and The Nation anymore? I know the NYT reports on bridges collapsing and tornadoes, but in the political realm, I see almost no difference between the two publications. Maybe the NYT entertains occasional token opposing views to create an illusion of open-mindedness. I wonder when that will stop?

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    , @Known Fact
    @ic1000

    This is the style of journalism that routinely gives us "shots rang out" and "protests erupted."

    Replies: @International Jew

  101. @Mr McKenna
    If Andy were a white man, no one would have heard of him. Much less the NYT.

    what protesters said were vegan coconut milkshakes
     
    Can you hear their chants? "Vegan coconut! Totally! We promise!"

    Definitely not: "Hey Hey Ho Ho Coconut Has Got to Go!"

    That was probably "the conservatives"..you know them

    Replies: @68W58, @Achmed E. Newman

    At least they’re wringing some last use out of that 50 year old chant. I really do wish I was single right now, as I’d really be up for kicking some ass.

  102. Hire the Covington kid’s lawyer and sue the city into bankruptcy.

  103. @vinteuil
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live “fascists” in the 1930s and 1940s
     
    Who, in particular, do you have in mind?

    Name three.

    Replies: @ic1000

    > Who, in particular, do you have in mind [genuine heroes who opposed fascists in the 1930s/40s]? Name three.

    OK. Without using Google, I’ll nominate:
    – Jean Moulin (France)
    – Kurt Schusnigg (Austria) *
    – Rick Blaine (Casablanca)

    * Semi-ironic choice. Substitute: King of Denmark

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @ic1000

    Orwell.

    , @vinteuil
    @ic1000

    Jean Moulin, Kurt Schusnigg, Rick Blaine...

    I rest my case.

  104. @Anon
    1a. This shocks me. Is the New York Times in the midst of another period of Stephen Jay Gouldian "punctuated equilibrium" evolution to a yet even more biased stasis? And this is in the news section, not the opinion/editorial section, right? Ngo is basically a war reporter. Did the Times complain that Daniel Pearl was looking for trouble when his noggin was removed with a janbiya?

    1b. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ngo has been hospitalized for a "subarachnoid hemorrhage, or brain bleed." https://www.wsj.com/articles/antifa-attacks-a-journalist-11562021361

    1c. What's the deal with attorney Harmeet Dhillon. She comes across like a Gloria Allred of the right. She was representing James Damore, but is anything really happening there? She wouldn't comment to the Times about Ngo, but she posted a series of what I think are slightly reckless tweets about the incident, some reportedly deleted. The right needs more Covington kid-style attorneys: Few words, lots of menace, real lawsuits pursued to the end.

    2. Mickey Kaus has risen from the dead. No one has seen him in the flesh for years, and his Twitter feed is rumored to be written by an AI bot. There have been occasional blurry smartphone photos posted online on cryptozoology forums of a disheveled, drooling guy with his comb-over blowing in the wind cruising through Venice in a dirty old Nissan Z with the vanity plate FLYING KAUSMAN. But this week comes the announcement of the Kausfiles newsletter. It looks very promising. It's coherent, unlike his Twitter feed, and it mixes up the subject matter: immigration, cars, and more: https://kaus.substack.com/

    3. Kamala Harris in the debate declared that climate is an existential threat to the species. My translation: Homo Sapiens may go extinct (population to zero) if we don't make certain changes relating to climate change. I haven't heard this before. Sea level rising, increased temperature, latitudes nearer the poles becoming more livable and agricultural while equatorial countries become unpleasant, skin cancers, animal extinctions, starvation, wars, migration. But human extinction? Is this a serious claim? It's not in the UN climate experts report; in fact, the UN projects quite a population boom (in Africa, at least). Why is Harris not being called on this sort of drama queening?


    Asked by Chuck Todd to describe her climate-change plan, Harris replied briskly and corrected his terms: The rapid warming of the planet should be called the "climate crisis" because "it’s an existential threat to us as a species."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/06/kamala-harris-first-mention-green-new-deal/592915/
     

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @El Dato, @Pericles, @Desiderius, @Peripatetic Commenter, @Forbes

    After taking outrage to hysteria, the next level up is “existential threat”…

  105. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat
    @Anon

    Antifa support the Syrian Kurdish YPG:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnoIV8yxp1s

    Some Antifa have even supposedly been to the Kurdish sector of Syria for military training:

    https://www.infowars.com/report-antifa-receiving-military-training-in-syria-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-travelled-to-middle-east/

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Anon

    Did Alex Jones make up his mind this time? I wouldn’t read about Syrain Antifas only to find out that it was all fiction, like the fiction about Sandy Hook being fiction. I mean, I am not upset that he lied (either in 2016, or during the 2019 trial), but the mixed messages indicate a certain lack of spine and conviction.

    On the other hand, seeing someone quote inforwars at this time reminds me of those Evangelical small churches, where the leader tells them that The Second Coming is scheduled for next Wednesday. After the deadline passes, the leader can always trick his followers that god told him that the world got better, and apocalypse was rescheduled. The followers, who are gullible enough to believe the first “prophecy”, are certainly going to accept this second “prophecy” as well. Alex Jones seems very convincing for some people.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Anon

    Antifa's involvement with YPG militia is well established. Anarchists have supported Kurdish resistance in Turkey since the 1980's. Chomsky, the grandaddy of modern day anarchists, is a big proponent of their cause.

    The allegiance between the YPG and Antifa was solidified when Abdullah Öcalan, the leader of the PKK (The Kurdish Worker's Party) converted from revolutionary communism to a form of anarcho-syndicalism that is all the rage with the green hair types these days. Abdullah Öcalan also became a radical feminist while in prison.

    None of this is the least bit controversial. Supporting the Kurds is very en vogue among the Radical Left.

  106. Kyle says:
    @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    They’re not Soros mercenaries, just useful idiots. The soros mercenary would be the one who organizes the face book group. The idiots who show up are really sincere in their convictions and are really stupid. None of them are getting payed by Soros, it’s disingenuous to think so. The people organizing antifa could be anyone. Soros mercenaries, Russian troll farms, tech savvy preteens in Israel. They might not be real people, they could be bots.

  107. @Anonymous

    A lawyer for Mr. Ngo, Harmeet K. Dhillon, did not respond to messages seeking comment, but called out on Twitter to “Antifa criminals” whom she said

    “I plan to sue into oblivion and then sow salt into their yoga studios and avocado toast stands until nothing grows there, not even the glimmer of a violent criminal conspiracy aided by the effete impotence of a cowed city government.”
     
    Lol!

    Harmeet Kaur Dhillon, a defamation lawyer, used to be part of the Republican National Committee, iirc.

    She looks a bit like Nikki Haley, which is not surprising, since both of them are ethnic Indian Jat Sikhs.

    https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/12/340/340/Harmeet-Dhillon-Law-Attorney.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @indocon

    A true jatti. She is ex head of SF Republican Party.

  108. I’m amazed to see the NYT unashamedly describing violent protestors as “rowdy.” That euphemism is a cliché of biased journalism.

  109. @Reg Cæsar
    @Desiderius


    Antifa looks to be made up of almost exclusively UMC and above regressors to the mean in the line of Bill Ayers.
     
    United Methodists?

    And isn't he Bill Uluru now?


    http://www.traveller.com.au/content/dam/images/h/1/c/k/9/a/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.h1cd1i.png/1553562116301.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Helena

    Thanks for the giggle. There is certainly something very deviant about these European types who think hills are there for climbing. Thankfully visitors can now abandon those uncomfortable hiking boots and instead settle down to a bit of soothing sand painting.

  110. @Thoughts
    Have you guys thought that Antifa in Portland is an Implicitly White Movement?


    Michelle Malkin, Andy Ngo and Harmeet K. Dhillon...


    These are not white people. Not to mention, Harmeet's twitter on avocado toast and yoga...though relevant to Meghan Markle, is an anti-white dogwhistle?


    Andy Ngo raised 150K? Organized by Michelle Malkin? Seriously? Are we just giving Asians more money now?

    Jews don't go after Asians...none of these people will be out of a job.

    I'm with Antifa on this!

    The fat, blue haired white antifa types are right to want to run these 'Asiatic Conservatives' out of town

    I think there's more going on here than meets the eye.

    I choose blood over water...even fat, blue-haired blood...Whites over Asians.

    Could Portland Antifa be a ProLe-white Anti-Asian movement?

    Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager, @Bragadocious, @Hypnotoad666

    Nice theory, but they’re not pro-white.

    They actively interfere with ICE in their attempts to deport Fred Reed’s sainted co-nationalists. They surround ICE and threaten them while the Portland police stands down.

  111. @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.

    Use of the passive tense is another slimy NYT tell. Their Good Guys actively do good things. But bad things just seem to happen to wreckers and saboteurs, sorta tough luck but they musta kinda had it coming, don't you think? The reader has to be motivated to scour the article to its end (and between its lines) to figure out what actually happened.


    In Portland, demonstrations in recent years have led to clashes and violence. During one event last summer, skirmishes broke out that left a few people needing medical attention and the police with a collection of apparent weapons they had confiscated throughout the day. The city also saw other violent confrontations in 2017
     
    Looking at what Google News is able to do, it would be straightforward to train an AI like that on a set of articles, rating them on friendliness to antifa. This one's right at the mainstream's sweet spot.

    Replies: @J1234, @Known Fact

    Is there a substantive difference between the NYT and The Nation anymore? I know the NYT reports on bridges collapsing and tornadoes, but in the political realm, I see almost no difference between the two publications. Maybe the NYT entertains occasional token opposing views to create an illusion of open-mindedness. I wonder when that will stop?

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @J1234

    The token opposing views you are getting in the NYT are from the likes of David Brooks and Brett Stephens, so not even on the right, more like a facsimile of what leftists think the right believes.

  112. Meanwhile a white guy gets his head split open and it doesn’t even get mentioned, not even by Steve.

  113. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    “Genuine anti-fascist heroes”

    Citation needed.

  114. @Bill P
    I saw Andy Ngo on Tucker Carlson tonight, and it's remarkable that such a soft-spoken, small, gay Asian man is so brave. He desrves every dollar of the support he's getting.

    Speaking of support, it's a great thing to see conservatives helping out their own financially. Antifa has been supported in Portland for decades by certain wealthy institutions and individuals. This stuff makes a difference.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Thoughts, @Svigor

    Word is he’s a homosexual performance artist who sets himself up to get attacked so he can get media coverage and donations.

    The fact that (((Big Media))) is showering him with attention and ignoring the huwhite guy who got his head split open is congruent.

    John Blum and Adam Kelly:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49029/watch-elderly-man-beaten-crowbar-another-has-head-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for (((Big Media))) to show their pictures, play their video, or speak their names.

    • Agree: Liza
    • Replies: @David
    @Svigor

    The guy whose scalp was gashed was stepping in to help the guy in your picture when he was himself attacked. It's hard to believe stuff like what's in this video is taking place in a big American city in the current year.

    I suggest watching the first few seconds at 0.25 speed. The big guy takes three wailing blows.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwRYYvuupq4&has_verified=1

    , @bored identity
    @Svigor

    Gee.

    bored identity for a second had a feeling that he just witnesed another Ron Perlman's transition to Hellboy...

    , @bored identity
    @Svigor

    Gee.

    bored identity for a second had a feeling he was just witnessing another Ron Perlman's transition to Hellboy...

    , @Dr Van Nostrand
    @Svigor

    Err... You do realize the Daily Wire which feature this story is founded and edited by Ben SHAPIRO.

    Your impressive habit of self goals continues unabated .

  115. When globalists want to destabilize uncooperative regimes or ones they’ve targeted for destruction, they create, finance and arm insurgents (Bay of Pigs, Contras, Syrian Free Army, Libyan militias).

    Antifa are the same as those shadow armies. By creating an ideological framework, lavishly funding propaganda and legal protection, and providing journalistic cover, the globalists redirected assorted Western rabble into an insurgent army against nationalism and patriotism.

    Portland was famous for its WTO protests twenty years ago. Now, through skillful manipulation and the application of money, those energies have been harnessed to fight for the globalist agenda. Amazing.

    • Agree: sayless
  116. Quick! Name all the Antifa/BLM/IGD/BAMN thugs punished by the Trump Justice Department.

    If you said nothing, you’re absolutely right! Planning on committing violent crime? Make sure to first identify as a foreign-sponsored violent professional leftist activist! You may be arrested but the worst you’ll get is parole!

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @J.Ross


    Quick! Name all the Antifa/BLM/IGD/BAMN thugs punished by the Trump Justice Department.
     
    You have a point.

    But, while I won't say Trump is playing 4D chess on this, the actual thugs in the street are mostly dispensing red pills by destroying the prog narrative that they are the party of non-violence and love.

    So while it would be immensely satisfying to just beat the crap out of these douche bags (like the Proud Boys would like to do), or else put them in jail, their sheer obnoxiousness probably helps the Right.

    What would be really useful, would be a deep undercover operation that meticulously rolls up the chain from the street thugs at the bottom to the expose the financiers and organizers. They could probably be prosecuted for racketeering or some kind of federal conspiracy charges (prosecutors can always come up with something if they want). Maybe this could happen in a second Trump term.

    P.S., everyone speculates that Soros is behind Antifa. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, but is there any hard evidence out there?
  117. @Thomas
    @Robert Dolan

    Little more complicated. One Portland Police lieutenant was having chats with Joey Gibson, the organizer of Patriot Prayer, mostly planning logistics to make sure events ran smoothly. That got twisted by the media and local politicians though into "siding" with conservatives. Also, Antifa throws bottles and rocks, which cops don't like, and which leads to them eventually always getting dispersed, often with riot control agents. Patriot Prayer and the other right groups are better behaved, especially to police, so police naturally are better behaved back.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Svigor

    Little more complicated. One Portland Police lieutenant was having chats with Joey Gibson, the organizer of Patriot Prayer, mostly planning logistics to make sure events ran smoothly. That got twisted by the media and local politicians though into “siding” with conservatives.

    That’s better than what (((Big Media))) usually twists into cops “siding” with “fascists”; cops saving the oligarchs’ mob’s asses by forming a wall between them and the “fascists.”

    In places like Portland, the cops are absolutely on the side of the oligarchs’ mob. Orders straight from the top, boys. Same as the Portland gov’t, from the mayor to the DA’s office. Everyone knows this, except for NPCs, and perhaps the addle-pated, drugs-enstupored mobbers themselves.

  118. @ic1000
    @vinteuil

    > Who, in particular, do you have in mind [genuine heroes who opposed fascists in the 1930s/40s]? Name three.

    OK. Without using Google, I'll nominate:
    - Jean Moulin (France)
    - Kurt Schusnigg (Austria) *
    - Rick Blaine (Casablanca)

    * Semi-ironic choice. Substitute: King of Denmark

    Replies: @J.Ross, @vinteuil

    Orwell.

  119. @El Dato
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    Jews: Why are they so angry in the wrong country? The US has becoming a stomping ground of "my personal ethnic grievance - 'never again' vendetta" permanent bullshit peddlers. Soon whitey will protest against the Ottomans in front of Vienna --- no that's not going to happen.


    Young Jews on their way to ICE detention center in Elizabeth NJ.
     
    This is not how "on their way to" should be done.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Really really tasteless obvious joke there in light of recent complaints.

  120. @bored identity
    More graciousness and fierce digging:

    https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1145853023681425413


    What a piece of scribe;

    Inquiring Antifa about their list of milkshake ingredients is like asking Reverend Jim about his Kool-Aid recipe.

    Replies: @Svigor

    Haven’t seen any evidence for the cement claim (also worth pointing out that, IIRC, the Portland cops only passed it on as a rumor they heard and were investigating; they didn’t make the claim themselves, as the JYT is claiming).

    Oh, speaking of po-po, this one didn’t help their case much, AFAIC:

  121. @Pericles
    @Anon

    "Existential threat" sounds very serious and learned, but can, if need be, be applied to whatever.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross

    Hasbarah. It comes from years of Israel saying that an unaimable modified WWII rocket the size of a child’s arm is a new and potentially more complete Holocaust.

  122. 99.9% of those Antifa goons are products of the public edyukashun system.

  123. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @jimmyriddle
    The Guardian's Jason Wilson was photographed embedded with the antifa. He later wrote a dismissive article about the Ngo beating, and when he got some push back he wrote something about needing "self-care" and set his twitter to private.


    https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1145605660303716353

    Clearly, cut from the same cloth as Enrique Lister.

    Replies: @El Dato, @anonymous, @guest

    Was this photograph altered in photoshop or is this Guardian Newspaper J creature really….

    foaming at the mouth?

    JR
    Left Behind in Chicago

  124. What little mainstream coverage I’ve seen about these attacks mentions what Ngo claims, but never bothers to provide, or link to, video footage. Highly edited footage of the evil Covington smirkers was, of course, spread far and wide. Yet when something like this happens, suddenly nobody in the MSM knows how to find the widely available footage of Ngo being attacked.

    This happens a lot with the MSM. When the Odessa massacre occurred in the Ukraine in 2014, the BBC shrugged it shoulders and said there was a clash, and it was all just too hard to sort out. And yet, the very event had been live-streamed, and soon after it happened there was extensive documentation of who the aggressors were, even if some details will probably never be known in full. (A lot happened inside the building where the anti-Maidan protestors were hiding.) In that case, there was aggression from actual far right groups (albeit, of a Zionist oligarch funded variety), but playing it down fit the agenda when it came to the Ukraine.

    Oddly, a Quillette statement about the attack on Ngo favorable mentions the Maidan itself as a positive, justified example of a “spontaneous” violent uprising of the people.

  125. @ic1000
    @Hypnotoad666

    > Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.

    Use of the passive tense is another slimy NYT tell. Their Good Guys actively do good things. But bad things just seem to happen to wreckers and saboteurs, sorta tough luck but they musta kinda had it coming, don't you think? The reader has to be motivated to scour the article to its end (and between its lines) to figure out what actually happened.


    In Portland, demonstrations in recent years have led to clashes and violence. During one event last summer, skirmishes broke out that left a few people needing medical attention and the police with a collection of apparent weapons they had confiscated throughout the day. The city also saw other violent confrontations in 2017
     
    Looking at what Google News is able to do, it would be straightforward to train an AI like that on a set of articles, rating them on friendliness to antifa. This one's right at the mainstream's sweet spot.

    Replies: @J1234, @Known Fact

    This is the style of journalism that routinely gives us “shots rang out” and “protests erupted.”

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Known Fact

    Yes. Or, "when an initially peaceful protest turned violent". Obviously, every violent act occurs after some period of time when nothing violent was happening. It's like saying that I breathed after a period of not breathing.

  126. While Portland has outlawed carrying firearms openly, concealed carry is still lawful for those of us who hold the required permit.
    One of these days…

  127. @Thoughts
    Have you guys thought that Antifa in Portland is an Implicitly White Movement?


    Michelle Malkin, Andy Ngo and Harmeet K. Dhillon...


    These are not white people. Not to mention, Harmeet's twitter on avocado toast and yoga...though relevant to Meghan Markle, is an anti-white dogwhistle?


    Andy Ngo raised 150K? Organized by Michelle Malkin? Seriously? Are we just giving Asians more money now?

    Jews don't go after Asians...none of these people will be out of a job.

    I'm with Antifa on this!

    The fat, blue haired white antifa types are right to want to run these 'Asiatic Conservatives' out of town

    I think there's more going on here than meets the eye.

    I choose blood over water...even fat, blue-haired blood...Whites over Asians.

    Could Portland Antifa be a ProLe-white Anti-Asian movement?

    Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager, @Bragadocious, @Hypnotoad666

    “Thoughts” is obviously a progressive troll trying to make this site seem like a bunch of nut-jobs. It’s about as authentic as a NYT “hate crime” report involving a noose.

    But just like the noose hoaxes, the post is interesting because it shows how an SJW imagines his alt-right boogeyman.

    • Agree: ic1000
  128. @Hypnotoad666
    @Pericles


    Existential threat” sounds very serious and learned,
     
    Like Camus and Sartre, or I guess they would just be "Existentialist threats."

    Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

  129. @J1234
    @ic1000

    Is there a substantive difference between the NYT and The Nation anymore? I know the NYT reports on bridges collapsing and tornadoes, but in the political realm, I see almost no difference between the two publications. Maybe the NYT entertains occasional token opposing views to create an illusion of open-mindedness. I wonder when that will stop?

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    The token opposing views you are getting in the NYT are from the likes of David Brooks and Brett Stephens, so not even on the right, more like a facsimile of what leftists think the right believes.

  130. @Steve Sailer
    @Pericles

    "Existential" used to mean sitting in a Paris cafe chain-smoking. Now it doesn't.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Mendez

    Haha, “existentialist” is a word USED by the deadbeat chain-smokers at the coffee shops. I’d never really even known what the word “existential” means, or used it in speaking or writing, until writing about the immigration invasion problem. Peak Stupidity explains.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Existentialism" was the philosophical Big Man On Campus back when I went to college in the mid-Sixties. Sartre, Camus, Kierkegaard etc. were required reading for the coffeehouse set. They seem to have taken a back seat to their linear descendants Saussure, Derrida etc

    Replies: @Anonymous

  131. @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    Anti-fa is organized much like the terrorist lefties of the 70’s. There are well known figures in their groups who are the stars. The rest of the idiots flock around these stars and will do anything to become one. To become a anti-fa star you go out and commit violent acts or property damage etc. etc. They literally spend their time trying to rise in their hierarchy by seeing who can kiss up to the stars via more and more desperate acts of violence and destruction.

    So what it really amounts to is a bunch of immature piss-ants trying to look cool to their fellow idiots. The virtue signaling is just an excuse to destroy and tear down, in this sense they are simply Nihilistic children with no actual convictions.

    Their goal is to achieve star status among their fucked up peers, it has nothing to do with actually accomplishing anything else.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Brad Smith

    Thank for your comment. Do people outside of Antifa know who the local "stars" are, and why are they not prosecuted or sued in civil courts? It would seem even if they're not caught actively participating they could credibly be accused of conspiracy or "inciting" or something like that.

    Though I suppose the "why" is a question for AG Barr. If they can get Manafort in prison I'd think rolling up one of these clowns should be no problem.

    , @Kronos
    @Brad Smith

    You should read “Days of Rage.” Talks about all the underground groups from the 1960s and 1970s. I couldn’t believe how many bombings occurred during that timespan.

    But those social dynamics happened a lot. Especially in the Weather Underground.


    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LFZ84PC/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

    Replies: @Desiderius

  132. @Anon
    @Digital Samizdat

    Did Alex Jones make up his mind this time? I wouldn't read about Syrain Antifas only to find out that it was all fiction, like the fiction about Sandy Hook being fiction. I mean, I am not upset that he lied (either in 2016, or during the 2019 trial), but the mixed messages indicate a certain lack of spine and conviction.

    On the other hand, seeing someone quote inforwars at this time reminds me of those Evangelical small churches, where the leader tells them that The Second Coming is scheduled for next Wednesday. After the deadline passes, the leader can always trick his followers that god told him that the world got better, and apocalypse was rescheduled. The followers, who are gullible enough to believe the first "prophecy", are certainly going to accept this second "prophecy" as well. Alex Jones seems very convincing for some people.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    Antifa’s involvement with YPG militia is well established. Anarchists have supported Kurdish resistance in Turkey since the 1980’s. Chomsky, the grandaddy of modern day anarchists, is a big proponent of their cause.

    The allegiance between the YPG and Antifa was solidified when Abdullah Öcalan, the leader of the PKK (The Kurdish Worker’s Party) converted from revolutionary communism to a form of anarcho-syndicalism that is all the rage with the green hair types these days. Abdullah Öcalan also became a radical feminist while in prison.

    None of this is the least bit controversial. Supporting the Kurds is very en vogue among the Radical Left.

  133. Anon[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    I think there's going to be some serious violence once the campaign really gets under way in 2020.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon, @MBlanc46

    I’m afraid you’re right. The left is desperate not to lose this time. I think we’re in danger of getting Civil War version 2.0. The issue that triggered the first Civil War was the inability of angry Democrats to accept the election of a Republican, and it can happen again. I don’t want to see it, but frankly, it would do a lot of good to clear out leftists if their most fanatical were slaughtered en masse on the battlefield, and we would be able to force illegals back into their home countries, or just tried to shoot them if they tried to stick around.

    How else would it play out? We’d have to be reconquering enemy territory such as New England and the West Coast. A General Sherman type of war-destroying their economy and thus their warmaking capacity-would be aimed at wiping out their all businesses and housing. That would ruin them for a few generations as economic powers. Their expensive housing would be destroyed, so all the coasties would lose their equity in their houses and end up poor, jobless, and no roof over their head.

    As much as I’d hate to say it, conservatives would benefit massively from a Civil War. We’d be able to completely return economic power to the center, and shrink hostile population on the coasts, get rid of enemy aliens with the wrong values, and retake the coasts for conservatives. It would be easy to do it with modern weapons tech where you just fly a plane and push a button. Since coasties have disarmed themselves, armed troops sent in won’t find any effective resistance, although ghettos will be more difficult to clean up. We could pay for the war via electronic seizure of invested assets from the rebellious population.

    Upon thinking about it further, screw all the worries and moral concerns about it. I’d go for it. It’s win-win. Any pretext we can use that provokes them to violence is a useable excuse to mow them down.

  134. @Svigor
    @Bill P

    Word is he's a homosexual performance artist who sets himself up to get attacked so he can get media coverage and donations.

    The fact that (((Big Media))) is showering him with attention and ignoring the huwhite guy who got his head split open is congruent.

    John Blum and Adam Kelly:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49029/watch-elderly-man-beaten-crowbar-another-has-head-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Don't hold your breath waiting for (((Big Media))) to show their pictures, play their video, or speak their names.

    https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2019/07/screen_shot_2019-07-01_at_10.49.10_am.png?itok=1YSdjTkQ

    Replies: @David, @bored identity, @bored identity, @Dr Van Nostrand

    The guy whose scalp was gashed was stepping in to help the guy in your picture when he was himself attacked. It’s hard to believe stuff like what’s in this video is taking place in a big American city in the current year.

    I suggest watching the first few seconds at 0.25 speed. The big guy takes three wailing blows.

  135. @J.Ross
    Quick! Name all the Antifa/BLM/IGD/BAMN thugs punished by the Trump Justice Department.
    ...
    If you said nothing, you're absolutely right! Planning on committing violent crime? Make sure to first identify as a foreign-sponsored violent professional leftist activist! You may be arrested but the worst you'll get is parole!

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Quick! Name all the Antifa/BLM/IGD/BAMN thugs punished by the Trump Justice Department.

    You have a point.

    But, while I won’t say Trump is playing 4D chess on this, the actual thugs in the street are mostly dispensing red pills by destroying the prog narrative that they are the party of non-violence and love.

    So while it would be immensely satisfying to just beat the crap out of these douche bags (like the Proud Boys would like to do), or else put them in jail, their sheer obnoxiousness probably helps the Right.

    What would be really useful, would be a deep undercover operation that meticulously rolls up the chain from the street thugs at the bottom to the expose the financiers and organizers. They could probably be prosecuted for racketeering or some kind of federal conspiracy charges (prosecutors can always come up with something if they want). Maybe this could happen in a second Trump term.

    P.S., everyone speculates that Soros is behind Antifa. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised, but is there any hard evidence out there?

  136. Steve approve my comment u ninny

  137. I think many of the posters here give far too much credit to Antifa. While some of their self-styled “leaders” may indeed be directed by, uh, (((higher powers))) the vast majority of their street troops are just loser scumbags. Remember that kid in grade-school who got knocked down and sat in the puddle crying rather than fighting back? Remember that fat girl who nobody liked because she was also stupid and ugly? Remember the little sociopath who loved to torture kittens and fry insects under a magnifying glass? These people have grown larger with age but otherwise remain fundamentally unchanged. Now that nancy-boy Ted Wheeler and his black “Chief of Police” Danielle Outlaw have made it clear that Mordor on the Willamette has been placed under anarcho-tyranny, the walking rat-turds of Antifa see their chance for payback.
    It’s quite understandable when you think about it. If the situation were reversed – if instead it was now open season on Antifa trash, I’ll wager that a lot of us would be out there kicking black-bloc ass and taking names while the smirking police stood idly by. I expect that it must be very empowering to know that the “authorities” have your back and you can attack your enemies with complete impunity.
    It’s just too bad that our side can’t muster, say, 5000 stalwart demonstrators to take over the streets of downtown Portland, intimidate the police and squash the opposition like the insects they are. Sadly, though, we unilaterally limit our tactics because we hold ourselves to be law-abiding citizens. This virtually guarantees our defeat when the law has been perverted into a weapon to be wielded against us.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Macumazahn


    Remember that kid in grade-school who got knocked down and sat in the puddle crying rather than fighting back?
     
    Don’t victimize that kid. He was *drafted* into the skool.

    Nowadays, the kid (or his mom) who fights back gets punished for it. Nothing happens to the bullies.

    You’re just one of those monsters who feel that the skoolz should serve as a boot-camp to toughen-up kids.

    Replies: @Macumazahn

  138. A bit off-topic.

    Take a look at this piece:

    “Against Twenty-First-Century Race Science”
    by Tina Sikka

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/06/racism-science-genetic-testing-racecraft

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @Brás Cubas

    So that's where Lewontin and Rose hang out now, there are articles linked at the bottom of that article for both of them, still fighting for the cause, one lie at a time. I love how the people like that author who constantly condemn science for having biases promote their own with an absolute scientific certainty, i.e. races don't exist, races are more variable within then without, all health disparities are caused by the environment, genes have nothing to do with it. Everyone else who doesn't share their ideology is promoting biased science, they are promoting scientific truth even though they have no scientific training whatsoever, funny how that works.

  139. In NYTimesWorld, when somebody drives a car into a crowd of people it’s “racism and fascism”. When a group of Antifa’s beat up on some poor schlub it’s “complicated”.

  140. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Haha, "existentialist" is a word USED by the deadbeat chain-smokers at the coffee shops. I'd never really even known what the word "existential" means, or used it in speaking or writing, until writing about the immigration invasion problem. Peak Stupidity explains.

    Replies: @Prester John

    “Existentialism” was the philosophical Big Man On Campus back when I went to college in the mid-Sixties. Sartre, Camus, Kierkegaard etc. were required reading for the coffeehouse set. They seem to have taken a back seat to their linear descendants Saussure, Derrida etc

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Prester John


    “Existentialism” was the philosophical Big Man On Campus back when I went to college
     
    How is Existentialism defined?
  141. @Brad Smith
    @Kronos

    Anti-fa is organized much like the terrorist lefties of the 70's. There are well known figures in their groups who are the stars. The rest of the idiots flock around these stars and will do anything to become one. To become a anti-fa star you go out and commit violent acts or property damage etc. etc. They literally spend their time trying to rise in their hierarchy by seeing who can kiss up to the stars via more and more desperate acts of violence and destruction.

    So what it really amounts to is a bunch of immature piss-ants trying to look cool to their fellow idiots. The virtue signaling is just an excuse to destroy and tear down, in this sense they are simply Nihilistic children with no actual convictions.

    Their goal is to achieve star status among their fucked up peers, it has nothing to do with actually accomplishing anything else.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Kronos

    Thank for your comment. Do people outside of Antifa know who the local “stars” are, and why are they not prosecuted or sued in civil courts? It would seem even if they’re not caught actively participating they could credibly be accused of conspiracy or “inciting” or something like that.

    Though I suppose the “why” is a question for AG Barr. If they can get Manafort in prison I’d think rolling up one of these clowns should be no problem.

  142. @notanon
    @Kronos


    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization?
     
    both (minus the democratic)

    their self-conception is bolshevik - descendants of the Communist Party street militia of 1920s Germany whose attacks on the rallies of other parties led to the creation of the Brownshirts.

    https://images.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/08093346/Antifa-Conference-1932.png

    however in the modern context of Wall St. conning the Left into identity politics they are effectively the street militia of neo-liberal economics.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?
     
    some of the organizers / organizations will be getting funded by Wall St. (not necessarily knowingly) but most are doing it for ideological reasons.

    they mostly come from all-white and prosperous backgrounds so don't realize "no borders" is really all about unlimited cheap labor for billionaires.

    Replies: @Kronos

    This is similar to my own line of thought. The 1999 “Battle for Seattle” was one generally based on economics. While today’s “black-block” organizations appear only concerned with cultural issues. Essentially all appear to have connections with Colleges and Universities. The last part strongly suggests they are “Neoliberal” in nature and don’t seriously want to address economic/foreign policy.

  143. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no “anti-fascists,” because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    Fascism was a movement founded in 1919 to oppose Bolshevism. Are there any Bolsheviks today?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @ben tillman

    'Fascism was a movement founded in 1919 to oppose Bolshevism. Are there any Bolsheviks today?'

    No -- but there are certainly Fascists. The confusing bit is that they call themselves 'Antifas.'

    Fascists believed in using violence to suppress the expression of views they disagreed with. That's what they did; they went around physically attacking the demonstrators, printing presses, activists, and so on of their opponents.

    What do the 'Antifas' do?

    Replies: @guest

  144. @Reg Cæsar

    a non-existent catfished fantasy figure
     
    Can we have a refresher on the difference between catfishing and gaslighting?

    Portland’s long history of street activism
     
    Ramona might have been a brat at times, but I don't recall Beezus, Henry, and Ribsy ever engaging in "street activism".

    Their creator is still kicking at 103, but hasn't lived in Portland for decades. I wonder what she thinks about all this.

    http://www.beverlycleary.com

    “I plan to sue into oblivion and then sow salt into their yoga studios and avocado toast stands until nothing grows there, not even the glimmer of a violent criminal conspiracy aided by the effete impotence of a cowed city government.”
     
    This dot happens to be one tasty cherry.

    She has a way with invective words. Is she related to Dhillon Thomas or Bob Dhillon?

    Replies: @Sam Patch

    I thought Ramona, Beezus and the rest of the gang lived in Seattle. No?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Sam Patch

    Klickitat Street!


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klickitat_Street

    A Beverly Cleary Pilgrimage, From Yamhill to Klickitat Street

    http://media.oregonlive.com/living_impact/photo/ramona-statuejpg-0c5078fb8c0136a9.jpg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

  145. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no "anti-fascists," because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.

    The false term "anti-fascists" is clearly a form of malignant cultural appropriation, seeking to piggyback on, and to steal from, the moral credibility of those genuine heroes who actually did oppose real, live "fascists" in the 1930s and 1940s, back when such creatures were not imaginary but were very much flesh and blood.

    The "anti-fascists" bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT "journalists" who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The term needs to be decolonized. There is much here to unpack.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Thomas, @Hypnotoad666, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymousse, @vinteuil, @Svigor, @ben tillman, @ben tillman

    The “anti-fascists” bring great shame upon themselves, which shame is shared by NYT “journalists” who use the term uncritically, by blatantly stealing a moral badge of honor; their cowardice reeks of unearned privilege and outright cultural and moral colonialism.

    The way they use the term “anti-fascist” is not the problem. The problem is the baggage they hang on the term “fascist”.

  146. @Known Fact
    @ic1000

    This is the style of journalism that routinely gives us "shots rang out" and "protests erupted."

    Replies: @International Jew

    Yes. Or, “when an initially peaceful protest turned violent”. Obviously, every violent act occurs after some period of time when nothing violent was happening. It’s like saying that I breathed after a period of not breathing.

  147. @Macumazahn
    I think many of the posters here give far too much credit to Antifa. While some of their self-styled "leaders" may indeed be directed by, uh, (((higher powers))) the vast majority of their street troops are just loser scumbags. Remember that kid in grade-school who got knocked down and sat in the puddle crying rather than fighting back? Remember that fat girl who nobody liked because she was also stupid and ugly? Remember the little sociopath who loved to torture kittens and fry insects under a magnifying glass? These people have grown larger with age but otherwise remain fundamentally unchanged. Now that nancy-boy Ted Wheeler and his black "Chief of Police" Danielle Outlaw have made it clear that Mordor on the Willamette has been placed under anarcho-tyranny, the walking rat-turds of Antifa see their chance for payback.
    It's quite understandable when you think about it. If the situation were reversed - if instead it was now open season on Antifa trash, I'll wager that a lot of us would be out there kicking black-bloc ass and taking names while the smirking police stood idly by. I expect that it must be very empowering to know that the "authorities" have your back and you can attack your enemies with complete impunity.
    It's just too bad that our side can't muster, say, 5000 stalwart demonstrators to take over the streets of downtown Portland, intimidate the police and squash the opposition like the insects they are. Sadly, though, we unilaterally limit our tactics because we hold ourselves to be law-abiding citizens. This virtually guarantees our defeat when the law has been perverted into a weapon to be wielded against us.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education

    Remember that kid in grade-school who got knocked down and sat in the puddle crying rather than fighting back?

    Don’t victimize that kid. He was *drafted* into the skool.

    Nowadays, the kid (or his mom) who fights back gets punished for it. Nothing happens to the bullies.

    You’re just one of those monsters who feel that the skoolz should serve as a boot-camp to toughen-up kids.

    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    @Abolish_public_education

    I'm not victimizing anyone.
    Hell, I was that kid, until the day I stood up and punched the bully in the mouth. He and I became friends as we sat in the office waiting for the principal to arrive. Our parents were notified, and that was the end of it. Of course that was some 50 years ago, back when the girls in my school were still forbidden to wear pants.
    There's nothing monstrous about expecting kids to learn to stand up for themselves.

  148. Speaking as a resident of the rest of Oregon, can we just cede Portland to the state of Washington?

    We’d still be stuck with Eugene, but that, we can outvote.

    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    @Colin Wright

    Speaking as a resident of Washington, things are already so pozzed up here that ingesting even something as loathsome as shithole Portland could hardly make matters worse.

    How about we redraw the borders to create a new blue state West of the Cascades from California to Canada, and similarly a new red state East of the Cascades?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Kronos
    @Colin Wright

    I feel your pain. When I think of Portland, the inglorious Capital from the “Hunger Games” comes to mind. All the counties must offer tribute of some form or another.

  149. @ben tillman
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Since at present there are in fact no fascists, it follows that there also are no “anti-fascists,” because clearly there are no fascists for these poseurs to oppose.
     
    Fascism was a movement founded in 1919 to oppose Bolshevism. Are there any Bolsheviks today?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Fascism was a movement founded in 1919 to oppose Bolshevism. Are there any Bolsheviks today?’

    No — but there are certainly Fascists. The confusing bit is that they call themselves ‘Antifas.’

    Fascists believed in using violence to suppress the expression of views they disagreed with. That’s what they did; they went around physically attacking the demonstrators, printing presses, activists, and so on of their opponents.

    What do the ‘Antifas’ do?

    • Replies: @guest
    @Colin Wright

    Lots and lots of political groups use violence to suppress expression of disagreeable views. That's no kind of way to distinguish fascists.

    You might as well say they're fascist because they hold rallies and wear black.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  150. @Kronos
    Is Antifa more of a neoliberal or democratic socialist organization? I understand it’s like comparing the German SS to the SA but I’m curious.

    Or, are they really just Soros mercenaries?

    Replies: @Thomas, @CCZ, @Anonymous, @notanon, @Gordo, @Kyle, @Brad Smith, @Paul Mendez

    You’re overthinking things.

    Antifa is mainly young men who, like most young men, are simply looking for an excuse to fight and break stuff. The only aspect of Antifa I find puzzling is the occasional presence of obese white girls with purple hair.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Paul Mendez

    Perhaps, but what if they possess the same staying power akin to the “Weather Underground” or “Students for a Democratic Society?” The various “stars” of Antifa may stay in the upper echelons of the University system for decades.

    Honestly, I believe most Colleges and Universities will go belly up; similar to the Savings & Loans Crisis. But it might not happen.

    Replies: @Alden

  151. @Clifford Brown
    @Bill P

    Look, I don't think anyone, whether on the Left or Right, should be beaten up for their political beliefs. Full stop.

    Ngo seems not so much right wing, but vaguely libertarian. Ngo bad talks the Antifa street gang and then stupidly walks among these masked goons. What the fuck does he expect to happen? He's putting himself in physical danger in order to raise funds via gofundme.com after the inevitable happens. This is a gang of unhinged lunatics that feel empowered by the media and state to exact violence on their perceived political opponents. Why put yourself in such danger?

    I would never step into this crowd unless I had a crew with cameras and fighting skills that had my back and even then, it's frankly just not worth it. I know full well that the police and the media are on antifa's side, especially in a place like Portland. Best to avoid stepping into a hornet's nest, but Ngo seems to relish the punishment. He is either autistic, sadistic or doing it to raise money. Likely, all three. The rational move is to avoid these people as they are violent and the system is on their side.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Thomas, @vinteuil, @notanon, @Paul Mendez

    While you’re at it, why don’t you opine on how autistic those Colonists were to put themselves in danger in places like Concord and Bunker Hill? After all, the rational move was to avoid those Redcoats, as they were violent and the system was on their side.

  152. Pro-life activists milkshake a woman trying to enter a Planned Parenthood clinic. MSM – “Shaken But Not Stirred. It Was Only a Milkshake.”

  153. @Steve Sailer
    @Pericles

    "Existential" used to mean sitting in a Paris cafe chain-smoking. Now it doesn't.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Mendez

    No, you’re thinking of Existentialism.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Paul Mendez

    Hence the joke.

  154. @Svigor
    @Bill P

    Word is he's a homosexual performance artist who sets himself up to get attacked so he can get media coverage and donations.

    The fact that (((Big Media))) is showering him with attention and ignoring the huwhite guy who got his head split open is congruent.

    John Blum and Adam Kelly:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49029/watch-elderly-man-beaten-crowbar-another-has-head-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Don't hold your breath waiting for (((Big Media))) to show their pictures, play their video, or speak their names.

    https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2019/07/screen_shot_2019-07-01_at_10.49.10_am.png?itok=1YSdjTkQ

    Replies: @David, @bored identity, @bored identity, @Dr Van Nostrand

    Gee.

    bored identity for a second had a feeling that he just witnesed another Ron Perlman’s transition to Hellboy…

  155. @Colin Wright
    Speaking as a resident of the rest of Oregon, can we just cede Portland to the state of Washington?

    We'd still be stuck with Eugene, but that, we can outvote.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Kronos

    Speaking as a resident of Washington, things are already so pozzed up here that ingesting even something as loathsome as shithole Portland could hardly make matters worse.

    How about we redraw the borders to create a new blue state West of the Cascades from California to Canada, and similarly a new red state East of the Cascades?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Macumazahn

    'Speaking as a resident of Washington, things are already so pozzed up here that ingesting even something as loathsome as shithole Portland could hardly make matters worse.

    How about we redraw the borders to create a new blue state West of the Cascades from California to Canada, and similarly a new red state East of the Cascades?'

    Ahem. I happen to live in that great belt of Trump country that still sprawls across central and southern Oregon right to the Pacific.

    No way are you surrendering us to the forces of darkness,

  156. Pricks and dolts who walk and talk like fascists. Just another brand of totalitarianism. Shit flavored ice cream with 54 toppings to choose from.

  157. @Svigor
    @Bill P

    Word is he's a homosexual performance artist who sets himself up to get attacked so he can get media coverage and donations.

    The fact that (((Big Media))) is showering him with attention and ignoring the huwhite guy who got his head split open is congruent.

    John Blum and Adam Kelly:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49029/watch-elderly-man-beaten-crowbar-another-has-head-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Don't hold your breath waiting for (((Big Media))) to show their pictures, play their video, or speak their names.

    https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2019/07/screen_shot_2019-07-01_at_10.49.10_am.png?itok=1YSdjTkQ

    Replies: @David, @bored identity, @bored identity, @Dr Van Nostrand

    Gee.

    bored identity for a second had a feeling he was just witnessing another Ron Perlman’s transition to Hellboy…

  158. Someone just emailed me an article from the Oberlin college student newspaper that shoplifting is just “a rite of passage” Maybe for 10 year olds and candy bars back when Opie lived in Mayberry.

    She can sue the mayor personally for ordering the police to stand down. Blood on the brain is actually a brain hemorrhage which sounds awful but isn’t very serious. Usually its not serious. But when its serious its very very bad. Problem with Portland is that the only private sector industry if Nike headquarters. And Nike makes a fortune from those $400 shoes only blacks buy. Plus Colin Kapernick appears to be making all the decisions lately. Nike recalled its American flag 4th of july shoes because Kapernick said they’re racist.. The major industry is those 3rd rate colleges and the graduates who can’t get jobs but become social justice grant grifters.

    My very favorite part of the movie Evita is the part when the army goes into the newspaper office and arrests all the employees. I’ve loathed the NYSlimes ever since I picked up a copy of Eugene Lyons Assignment in Utopia and learned about the lies the NYSlimes told about Stalin.

  159. @istevefan
    @Hypnotoad666


    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation.
     
    They have had plenty of practice with watering down a story that doesn't fit the narrative. When a White is victimized by a non-White, they often write that the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time as though they were partially responsible. Or they describe the victim as being hit by a car, as though the car was to blame.

    I recall a few weeks back a story about a White woman mistakenly getting into a car she thought was her ride-share. They wrote she mistakenly entered the car, the door locks engaged, she could not get out and was later found to have been strangled.

    Minimizing what happened to Ngo is a piece of cake.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Alden

    It’s all the car’s fault.

  160. @Abolish_public_education
    @Macumazahn


    Remember that kid in grade-school who got knocked down and sat in the puddle crying rather than fighting back?
     
    Don’t victimize that kid. He was *drafted* into the skool.

    Nowadays, the kid (or his mom) who fights back gets punished for it. Nothing happens to the bullies.

    You’re just one of those monsters who feel that the skoolz should serve as a boot-camp to toughen-up kids.

    Replies: @Macumazahn

    I’m not victimizing anyone.
    Hell, I was that kid, until the day I stood up and punched the bully in the mouth. He and I became friends as we sat in the office waiting for the principal to arrive. Our parents were notified, and that was the end of it. Of course that was some 50 years ago, back when the girls in my school were still forbidden to wear pants.
    There’s nothing monstrous about expecting kids to learn to stand up for themselves.

  161. @the one they call Desanex
    Luis Enrique Marquez looks like a character out of EC Comics, the Vault-Keeper.
    https://66.media.tumblr.com/a122b515f69b7b3a89a292238b57296e/tumblr_n0buygrYmd1qki6r9o1_400.png

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I too noticed the saliva strands between his lips. Just short of foaming at the mouth.

  162. @William Badwhite
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    FFS spending 20 seconds on a search engine and you learn that Molon Labe is not a "prominent slogan of contemporary fascism". Unless by "contemporary fascism" they mean "anything we don't like", which come to think of it IS what they mean by it.

    Its Greek for "come and take them" and there are several modern uses, none of which can be tied to "contemporary fascism" using any honest of the term.

    So we get it "Jewish Worker", you're just using the unfortunately too common Jewish argumentation techniques of lying and slander. Jack D, fix this please.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @guest

    Molon Labe is a popular slogan among gun rights activists. I don’t know who else uses it. Progressives see gun rights people as their enemies, correctly.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin

    Right.

    , @William Badwhite
    @Harry Baldwin

    Its also the motto of the US Special Operations Command. My guess is that cop/ICE guy was either ex-special forces or is a gun rights supporter. He's not a "fascist" and the vile jewess slandering him should be called out for it.


    Progressives see gun rights people as their enemies, correctly.
     
    That doesn't make gun rights people "fascists". Precision in language is important and the left's constant twisting of words and redefining of terms needs to be resisted as much as possible.

    I'm sure people that know me are tired of hearing "You mean sex, not gender. Gender pertains to language" every time they say "gender"...
  163. @jimmyriddle
    The Guardian's Jason Wilson was photographed embedded with the antifa. He later wrote a dismissive article about the Ngo beating, and when he got some push back he wrote something about needing "self-care" and set his twitter to private.


    https://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1145605660303716353

    Clearly, cut from the same cloth as Enrique Lister.

    Replies: @El Dato, @anonymous, @guest

    They’re not in drugs. They’re on Which Side Are You On?

  164. @Colin Wright
    @ben tillman

    'Fascism was a movement founded in 1919 to oppose Bolshevism. Are there any Bolsheviks today?'

    No -- but there are certainly Fascists. The confusing bit is that they call themselves 'Antifas.'

    Fascists believed in using violence to suppress the expression of views they disagreed with. That's what they did; they went around physically attacking the demonstrators, printing presses, activists, and so on of their opponents.

    What do the 'Antifas' do?

    Replies: @guest

    Lots and lots of political groups use violence to suppress expression of disagreeable views. That’s no kind of way to distinguish fascists.

    You might as well say they’re fascist because they hold rallies and wear black.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @guest

    'Lots and lots of political groups use violence to suppress expression of disagreeable views. That’s no kind of way to distinguish fascists...'

    Who -- other than various other flavors of fascists -- did you have in mind?

  165. @William Badwhite
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    FFS spending 20 seconds on a search engine and you learn that Molon Labe is not a "prominent slogan of contemporary fascism". Unless by "contemporary fascism" they mean "anything we don't like", which come to think of it IS what they mean by it.

    Its Greek for "come and take them" and there are several modern uses, none of which can be tied to "contemporary fascism" using any honest of the term.

    So we get it "Jewish Worker", you're just using the unfortunately too common Jewish argumentation techniques of lying and slander. Jack D, fix this please.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @guest

    Dude, you know ‘contemporary fascism’ means you, right?

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @guest

    I believe I wrote "Unless by “contemporary fascism” they mean “anything we don’t like”, which come to think of it IS what they mean by it."

  166. @Oleaginous Outrager
    "a Molon Labe tattoo, a prominent slogan of contemporary fascism"


    https://twitter.com/JewishWorker/status/1145699069677002752

    Replies: @El Dato, @El Dato, @William Badwhite, @guest

    Jewish Worker? What is this, 1902? Or are they counting all the poor souls slaving away in sketch comedy writing rooms?

    By the way, stigmatizing “molon labe” is anti-Greek and more importantly anti-Spartan. These Jewish Workers don’t want a phalanx of gleaming bronze coming at ’em, I tell you what.

  167. @Robert Dolan
    An absurd lie that the Portland Police side with conservatives.

    That has never happened.

    The mayor is a far left loon and he sets the antifa tone for Portland.

    Replies: @Thomas, @notanon, @LG

    There’s documented proof that Portland Police had a cozy relationship with Patriot Prayer. The idea that there is an institutionalized sympathy among law enforcement and government officials for anti-statist, cop-hating anarchists is what’s absurd.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/01/exclusive-video-shows-portland-officers-made-deal-with-far-right-group-leader

    https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/apr/24/pbb-patriot-prayer-logs/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @LG

    'There’s documented proof that Portland Police had a cozy relationship with Patriot Prayer...'

    Some good news, then.

    , @Alden
    @LG

    So you believed something in the Guardian?

  168. Let’s just say that when a reporter gets roughed-up, despite such an incident possibly raising the reporter’s profile (e.g. Dan Rather in Chicago ‘68), that I don’t get too upset about it; beheading crosses the line.

    What this world needs to see is a prominent, left-wing reporter getting what’s coming, and who then, in self-defense, pulls out an illegal, concealed weapon, which he uses with lethal effectiveness.

    Regarding the Antifa thugs, let’s see them try to smash storefront windows — like they did in Berkeley — in LA’s Koreatown.

    Had this reporter — or one of the nearby witnesses — KO’d one of the attackers, it would have been glorious.

  169. fnn says:

    The idea that there is an institutionalized sympathy among law enforcement and government officials for anti-statist, cop-hating anarchists is what’s absurd.

    Operationally, they’re not “anti-statist” or “anarchist.” They attack those most hated by Wall Street, Silicon Valley and the security organs of the American Empire. You really have to be blind not to see that.

  170. Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino.

    The director of what?!

    Does he report to the Second Deputy Assistant of Orthogonal Microscopy?

    According to the taxpayers’ friends over at Transparent California, last year instructional faculty member Levin took home a total compensation package worth almost $100K.

    What’s my screen-name again?

  171. I know a few of these dipshits from the fringes of NYC politics. One is the son of a federal judge in New Jersey, another claimed to be an honest-to-goodness Stalinist before he drifted off into Palestine Solidarity situationism.

    They are without exception physically stunted, either doughy and weak or spindly and epicene, usually vegan, and they all dress like they’re in faggy emo bands. They f-ing love comic books, they call some of them ‘graphic novels’ ffs. They have tons of evil and/or retarded tats, and they’d never fight you or anyone else without 16 other little shits with them, and only then wearing a mask. Even then you could take out a couple because they are complete pussies and you can tell just by looking at them they cannot fight.

    However, letting these d-bags get away with this stuff will attract a few genuinely malevolent and dangerous people who like the idea of getting away with stuff. Sociopaths keep a lookout for opportunities like this.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    https://youtu.be/SgpaRFbkCfg

    , @J.Ross
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    One of the things 4chan did that you'll never hear about was Right Wing Safety Squads. Left-leaning youth collect self-destructive behaviors. Aging y-list "punk rockers" bed high school kids at "artistic spaces." By perusing free weeklies and classifieds a curious onlooker can identify "squats" -- off the books and out-of-code communal residences full of art projects and used as concert venues. The fire department might appreciate the tip. They didn't get one in time to prevent the Ghost Ship Fire, the details of which are rage-inducing: one door, amateur-made wood mezzanine with one egress, out of code wiring, every surface covered with flammable decorations, space packed for music concert. The only thing more maddening is the tone of the "administrator" chick NPR interviewed afterward.

  172. @Macumazahn
    @Colin Wright

    Speaking as a resident of Washington, things are already so pozzed up here that ingesting even something as loathsome as shithole Portland could hardly make matters worse.

    How about we redraw the borders to create a new blue state West of the Cascades from California to Canada, and similarly a new red state East of the Cascades?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Speaking as a resident of Washington, things are already so pozzed up here that ingesting even something as loathsome as shithole Portland could hardly make matters worse.

    How about we redraw the borders to create a new blue state West of the Cascades from California to Canada, and similarly a new red state East of the Cascades?’

    Ahem. I happen to live in that great belt of Trump country that still sprawls across central and southern Oregon right to the Pacific.

    No way are you surrendering us to the forces of darkness,

  173. @LG
    @Robert Dolan

    There's documented proof that Portland Police had a cozy relationship with Patriot Prayer. The idea that there is an institutionalized sympathy among law enforcement and government officials for anti-statist, cop-hating anarchists is what's absurd.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/01/exclusive-video-shows-portland-officers-made-deal-with-far-right-group-leader

    https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/apr/24/pbb-patriot-prayer-logs/

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Alden

    ‘There’s documented proof that Portland Police had a cozy relationship with Patriot Prayer…’

    Some good news, then.

  174. @Paul Mendez
    @Kronos

    You’re overthinking things.

    Antifa is mainly young men who, like most young men, are simply looking for an excuse to fight and break stuff. The only aspect of Antifa I find puzzling is the occasional presence of obese white girls with purple hair.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Perhaps, but what if they possess the same staying power akin to the “Weather Underground” or “Students for a Democratic Society?” The various “stars” of Antifa may stay in the upper echelons of the University system for decades.

    Honestly, I believe most Colleges and Universities will go belly up; similar to the Savings & Loans Crisis. But it might not happen.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Kronos

    Look at Kathy Boudin Bill Ayers Bernadette Dorhn Susan Rosenberg went straight from prison to professorship and soon well paid administrator

    Dohrn can’t even practice law in the state of Illinois because of her felony convictions. So one of the less insane universities in the country, Northwestern, hired her to teach in the law school. Her father in law being in the Board of Trustees night have had something to do with it.

    Replies: @Kronos

  175. @Colin Wright
    Speaking as a resident of the rest of Oregon, can we just cede Portland to the state of Washington?

    We'd still be stuck with Eugene, but that, we can outvote.

    Replies: @Macumazahn, @Kronos

    I feel your pain. When I think of Portland, the inglorious Capital from the “Hunger Games” comes to mind. All the counties must offer tribute of some form or another.

  176. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    I know a few of these dipshits from the fringes of NYC politics. One is the son of a federal judge in New Jersey, another claimed to be an honest-to-goodness Stalinist before he drifted off into Palestine Solidarity situationism.

    They are without exception physically stunted, either doughy and weak or spindly and epicene, usually vegan, and they all dress like they're in faggy emo bands. They f-ing love comic books, they call some of them 'graphic novels' ffs. They have tons of evil and/or retarded tats, and they'd never fight you or anyone else without 16 other little shits with them, and only then wearing a mask. Even then you could take out a couple because they are complete pussies and you can tell just by looking at them they cannot fight.

    However, letting these d-bags get away with this stuff will attract a few genuinely malevolent and dangerous people who like the idea of getting away with stuff. Sociopaths keep a lookout for opportunities like this.

    Replies: @Kronos, @J.Ross

  177. @guest
    @Colin Wright

    Lots and lots of political groups use violence to suppress expression of disagreeable views. That's no kind of way to distinguish fascists.

    You might as well say they're fascist because they hold rallies and wear black.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Lots and lots of political groups use violence to suppress expression of disagreeable views. That’s no kind of way to distinguish fascists…’

    Who — other than various other flavors of fascists — did you have in mind?

  178. @Sam Patch
    @Reg Cæsar

    I thought Ramona, Beezus and the rest of the gang lived in Seattle. No?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    • Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Reg Cæsar

    Who gouged out her poor little eyes? Does anybody else find it creepy to see holes where eyes should be?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  179. @Brad Smith
    @Kronos

    Anti-fa is organized much like the terrorist lefties of the 70's. There are well known figures in their groups who are the stars. The rest of the idiots flock around these stars and will do anything to become one. To become a anti-fa star you go out and commit violent acts or property damage etc. etc. They literally spend their time trying to rise in their hierarchy by seeing who can kiss up to the stars via more and more desperate acts of violence and destruction.

    So what it really amounts to is a bunch of immature piss-ants trying to look cool to their fellow idiots. The virtue signaling is just an excuse to destroy and tear down, in this sense they are simply Nihilistic children with no actual convictions.

    Their goal is to achieve star status among their fucked up peers, it has nothing to do with actually accomplishing anything else.

    Replies: @William Badwhite, @Kronos

    You should read “Days of Rage.” Talks about all the underground groups from the 1960s and 1970s. I couldn’t believe how many bombings occurred during that timespan.

    But those social dynamics happened a lot. Especially in the Weather Underground.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Kronos

    https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/comment-page-1/

    Link to blog article about book by David Hines, who writes good tweets about the logistics of lefty activists and why they kick our asses time and again - care more, work harder.

    https://twitter.com/hradzka/status/1146140071332069383

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Anonymous

  180. @Harry Baldwin
    @William Badwhite

    Molon Labe is a popular slogan among gun rights activists. I don't know who else uses it. Progressives see gun rights people as their enemies, correctly.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @William Badwhite

    Right.

  181. @Paul Mendez
    @Steve Sailer

    No, you’re thinking of Existentialism.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Hence the joke.

  182. @Kronos
    @Brad Smith

    You should read “Days of Rage.” Talks about all the underground groups from the 1960s and 1970s. I couldn’t believe how many bombings occurred during that timespan.

    But those social dynamics happened a lot. Especially in the Weather Underground.


    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LFZ84PC/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

    Replies: @Desiderius

    https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/comment-page-1/

    Link to blog article about book by David Hines, who writes good tweets about the logistics of lefty activists and why they kick our asses time and again – care more, work harder.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Desiderius

    I think it's more that the government permits them to organize.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    (Google Docs, if you have privacy concerns)
     
    What does this statement from his tweet mean?

    Replies: @Desiderius

  183. @Brás Cubas
    A bit off-topic.

    Take a look at this piece:

    "Against Twenty-First-Century Race Science"
    by Tina Sikka

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/06/racism-science-genetic-testing-racecraft

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow

    So that’s where Lewontin and Rose hang out now, there are articles linked at the bottom of that article for both of them, still fighting for the cause, one lie at a time. I love how the people like that author who constantly condemn science for having biases promote their own with an absolute scientific certainty, i.e. races don’t exist, races are more variable within then without, all health disparities are caused by the environment, genes have nothing to do with it. Everyone else who doesn’t share their ideology is promoting biased science, they are promoting scientific truth even though they have no scientific training whatsoever, funny how that works.

  184. Huey Long said that when fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.

    There have been plenty of examples of the truth of this, then and now.

    There’s debate over who did and didn’t say what to articulate this basic point, but the great H.L. Mencken did say this:

    “Fascism is not likely to be identical with the kinds on tap in Germany, Italy and Russia; indeed, it is very apt to come in under the name of anti-Fascism.”

    When you find yourself using the enemy’s pejoratives (“fascist”), it’s time for an inventory.

    Rightists need to stop doing this. Way too common for conservatives to find themselves criticizing Islam because anti-gay and anti-feminist, calling the Democrats the Real Racists, etc. Shows a lack of brains or balls. It’s fine to make talking points out of how phony the left is, but when you move from that to putting yourself forward as the REAL anti-racist, pro-feminist, pro-homosexualist, anti-fascist, etc., or criticizing racism, anti-feminism, anti-homosexualism, fascism, etc., then you’ve totally lost the fucking plot. At that point, you’re a leftist, kosher gonservative wing.

    No, these pro-open-borders, anti-white, pro-non-white, anti-nationalist, pro-homosexual, pro-tranny degenerates aren’t “fascists.”

    No, the use of street violence for political ends isn’t “facist”; fascism arose in REACTION to communism; fascist street violence was a REACTION to leftist street violence. The Soviets murdered millions of innocent people and fomented violent revolution throughout Europe before fascism became a force in the world.

    If he did expect this to happen, then I’d say he was looking to bait them into damaging themselves. He’s likely caused Antifa and their defenders and enablers more trouble than anyone has managed to since Trump’s inauguration.

    All of the supposed “damage” coming at the hands of (((Big Media))), so let’s just say I’m from Missouri on this one.

    And he’s done all of this regardless of how much easier it would be, on ascriptive and biographical factors alone, for him to be just another SJW journalist.

    His gofundme is probably grateful for his choice. SJW “journalists” are mostly weighing whether or not to learn to code at the moment.

    Andy Ngo raised 150K?

    Andy’s wallet is thanking Andy’s bravery as we speak.

    “Neoliberal” would imply they’re free-market conservatives or something. They’re mostly left-anarchists or Communists. Though plenty I’m sure are ideologically flexible, enough to run local businesses (like Cider Riot), or take Soros money.

    As someone else pointed out, in America neoliberal has its own meaning; basically, the politics of the modern leftist ruling class. Hillary Clinton, Hussein Obama, etc. Woke capital, intersectionalism, invade the world invite the world, etc.

    As for “antifa,” they’re morons who work for the oligarchs but are too stupid to know it, or too shitty to care. That’s why their positions and the positions of the average Fortune 500 board are identical. The “anarchist” or “communist” labels are just a pose to excuse their mob behavior and complement their LARP; they want a way to overstimulate their lizard brains while getting permission/praise from on high AND LARPing as plucky rebels. They’re the dregs of humanity, the sort long ago identified by the Frankfort Shul as their best mob muscle material.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Svigor

    Frankfort Shul, I like it.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Svigor

    Fascism is to the left of just about everything in America. Mussolini and Moseley agreed. Antifa are modern Black Shirts, amoral street thugs. Long and Mencken nailed it.

    As for using the Left's terminology (rightists didn't care for the faggy Fascists either), iStevers have often complained about "tax cuts for the rich", and I don't recall your calling them out for that.

    " DR3" is a hamfisted way of saying "Dems know the truth", that they implicitly admit to HBD. It's our job to force them to be explicit.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @guest
    @Svigor

    Antifa thugs are shock troops for the ruling order, much like blacks. No one expects black thugs to agree with neoliberalism or know what it is. They tend to have a wild range of political opinions, stuck together from a dozen different jigsaw puzzles. With some of the more colorful conspiracy theories around.

    Nevertheless, powers that be exploit them, sometimes to the extreme of shutting down entire cities.

  185. @Desiderius
    @Kronos

    https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/comment-page-1/

    Link to blog article about book by David Hines, who writes good tweets about the logistics of lefty activists and why they kick our asses time and again - care more, work harder.

    https://twitter.com/hradzka/status/1146140071332069383

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Anonymous

    I think it’s more that the government permits them to organize.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @ben tillman

    If you believe that to be the case you'd do well to read his material.

  186. @LG
    @Robert Dolan

    There's documented proof that Portland Police had a cozy relationship with Patriot Prayer. The idea that there is an institutionalized sympathy among law enforcement and government officials for anti-statist, cop-hating anarchists is what's absurd.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/01/exclusive-video-shows-portland-officers-made-deal-with-far-right-group-leader

    https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/apr/24/pbb-patriot-prayer-logs/

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Alden

    So you believed something in the Guardian?

  187. @Svigor

    Huey Long said that when fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.

    There have been plenty of examples of the truth of this, then and now.
     

    There’s debate over who did and didn’t say what to articulate this basic point, but the great H.L. Mencken did say this:

    “Fascism is not likely to be identical with the kinds on tap in Germany, Italy and Russia; indeed, it is very apt to come in under the name of anti-Fascism.”
     
    When you find yourself using the enemy's pejoratives ("fascist"), it's time for an inventory.

    Rightists need to stop doing this. Way too common for conservatives to find themselves criticizing Islam because anti-gay and anti-feminist, calling the Democrats the Real Racists, etc. Shows a lack of brains or balls. It's fine to make talking points out of how phony the left is, but when you move from that to putting yourself forward as the REAL anti-racist, pro-feminist, pro-homosexualist, anti-fascist, etc., or criticizing racism, anti-feminism, anti-homosexualism, fascism, etc., then you've totally lost the fucking plot. At that point, you're a leftist, kosher gonservative wing.

    No, these pro-open-borders, anti-white, pro-non-white, anti-nationalist, pro-homosexual, pro-tranny degenerates aren't "fascists."

    No, the use of street violence for political ends isn't "facist"; fascism arose in REACTION to communism; fascist street violence was a REACTION to leftist street violence. The Soviets murdered millions of innocent people and fomented violent revolution throughout Europe before fascism became a force in the world.

    If he did expect this to happen, then I’d say he was looking to bait them into damaging themselves. He’s likely caused Antifa and their defenders and enablers more trouble than anyone has managed to since Trump’s inauguration.
     
    All of the supposed "damage" coming at the hands of (((Big Media))), so let's just say I'm from Missouri on this one.

    And he’s done all of this regardless of how much easier it would be, on ascriptive and biographical factors alone, for him to be just another SJW journalist.
     
    His gofundme is probably grateful for his choice. SJW "journalists" are mostly weighing whether or not to learn to code at the moment.

    Andy Ngo raised 150K?
     
    Andy's wallet is thanking Andy's bravery as we speak.

    “Neoliberal” would imply they’re free-market conservatives or something. They’re mostly left-anarchists or Communists. Though plenty I’m sure are ideologically flexible, enough to run local businesses (like Cider Riot), or take Soros money.
     
    As someone else pointed out, in America neoliberal has its own meaning; basically, the politics of the modern leftist ruling class. Hillary Clinton, Hussein Obama, etc. Woke capital, intersectionalism, invade the world invite the world, etc.

    As for "antifa," they're morons who work for the oligarchs but are too stupid to know it, or too shitty to care. That's why their positions and the positions of the average Fortune 500 board are identical. The "anarchist" or "communist" labels are just a pose to excuse their mob behavior and complement their LARP; they want a way to overstimulate their lizard brains while getting permission/praise from on high AND LARPing as plucky rebels. They're the dregs of humanity, the sort long ago identified by the Frankfort Shul as their best mob muscle material.

    Replies: @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @guest

    Frankfort Shul, I like it.

  188. @Reg Cæsar
    @Sam Patch

    Klickitat Street!


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klickitat_Street

    A Beverly Cleary Pilgrimage, From Yamhill to Klickitat Street

    http://media.oregonlive.com/living_impact/photo/ramona-statuejpg-0c5078fb8c0136a9.jpg

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    Who gouged out her poor little eyes? Does anybody else find it creepy to see holes where eyes should be?

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @the one they call Desanex


    Who gouged out her poor little eyes? Does anybody else find it creepy to see holes where eyes should be?
     
    That's common in metal sculpture. One New Year's Eve afternoon, I put blue bubblegum in F Scott Fitzgerald's eyes. That night, I stood nearby to watch the reactions. One SJW threw a minor fit-- he accompanied two college girls-- and fished it out himself.
  189. @Kronos
    @Paul Mendez

    Perhaps, but what if they possess the same staying power akin to the “Weather Underground” or “Students for a Democratic Society?” The various “stars” of Antifa may stay in the upper echelons of the University system for decades.

    Honestly, I believe most Colleges and Universities will go belly up; similar to the Savings & Loans Crisis. But it might not happen.

    Replies: @Alden

    Look at Kathy Boudin Bill Ayers Bernadette Dorhn Susan Rosenberg went straight from prison to professorship and soon well paid administrator

    Dohrn can’t even practice law in the state of Illinois because of her felony convictions. So one of the less insane universities in the country, Northwestern, hired her to teach in the law school. Her father in law being in the Board of Trustees night have had something to do with it.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Alden

    I know, it’s quite extraordinary. I believe the PATRIOT ACT was written (partially) with them in mind. More FBI agents went to jail (Unit 47) than actual Weather Underground members.

  190. @Alden
    @Kronos

    Look at Kathy Boudin Bill Ayers Bernadette Dorhn Susan Rosenberg went straight from prison to professorship and soon well paid administrator

    Dohrn can’t even practice law in the state of Illinois because of her felony convictions. So one of the less insane universities in the country, Northwestern, hired her to teach in the law school. Her father in law being in the Board of Trustees night have had something to do with it.

    Replies: @Kronos

    I know, it’s quite extraordinary. I believe the PATRIOT ACT was written (partially) with them in mind. More FBI agents went to jail (Unit 47) than actual Weather Underground members.

  191. @Hypnotoad666
    Typical slimy NYT writing. Lots of obfuscation and snide insinuation. The point being: Ngo was on the wrong side so he had it coming somehow. He was probably trying to push his face into somebody's fist just to get attention.

    I especially like this passage:

    The conservative journalist has built a prominent presence in part by going into situations where there may be conflict and then publicizing the results.
     
    Has the NYT even referred to anybody ever as a "liberal journalist? " (Admittedly, that's usually redundant). But if he were a typical liberal journalist they'd be praising his brave risk taking to get a story. Instead, he's the troublemaker for interfered with some antifa guy's day out larping.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Oleaginous Outrager, @ic1000, @dvorak

    Has the NYT even referred to anybody ever as a “liberal journalist?

    Conservative Journalist is like White Hispanic – coined just-in-time to extend the Narrative to a current event. The neologism is not a concept, it is just an name to call.

    White Hispanic is what you call George Zimmerman and Conservative Journalist is what you call Andy Ngo.

  192. @ic1000
    @vinteuil

    > Who, in particular, do you have in mind [genuine heroes who opposed fascists in the 1930s/40s]? Name three.

    OK. Without using Google, I'll nominate:
    - Jean Moulin (France)
    - Kurt Schusnigg (Austria) *
    - Rick Blaine (Casablanca)

    * Semi-ironic choice. Substitute: King of Denmark

    Replies: @J.Ross, @vinteuil

    Jean Moulin, Kurt Schusnigg, Rick Blaine…

    I rest my case.

  193. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prester John
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Existentialism" was the philosophical Big Man On Campus back when I went to college in the mid-Sixties. Sartre, Camus, Kierkegaard etc. were required reading for the coffeehouse set. They seem to have taken a back seat to their linear descendants Saussure, Derrida etc

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Existentialism” was the philosophical Big Man On Campus back when I went to college

    How is Existentialism defined?

  194. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    @Kronos

    https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/comment-page-1/

    Link to blog article about book by David Hines, who writes good tweets about the logistics of lefty activists and why they kick our asses time and again - care more, work harder.

    https://twitter.com/hradzka/status/1146140071332069383

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Anonymous

    (Google Docs, if you have privacy concerns)

    What does this statement from his tweet mean?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anonymous

    Don't click the link if you have an insecure connection and don't want Google to know you've clicked it. Right now Google is more or less a giant pile of sugar attracting all manner of flies so may well be good advice.

  195. @Harry Baldwin
    @William Badwhite

    Molon Labe is a popular slogan among gun rights activists. I don't know who else uses it. Progressives see gun rights people as their enemies, correctly.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @William Badwhite

    Its also the motto of the US Special Operations Command. My guess is that cop/ICE guy was either ex-special forces or is a gun rights supporter. He’s not a “fascist” and the vile jewess slandering him should be called out for it.

    Progressives see gun rights people as their enemies, correctly.

    That doesn’t make gun rights people “fascists”. Precision in language is important and the left’s constant twisting of words and redefining of terms needs to be resisted as much as possible.

    I’m sure people that know me are tired of hearing “You mean sex, not gender. Gender pertains to language” every time they say “gender”…

  196. @ben tillman
    @Desiderius

    I think it's more that the government permits them to organize.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    If you believe that to be the case you’d do well to read his material.

  197. @guest
    @William Badwhite

    Dude, you know 'contemporary fascism' means you, right?

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    I believe I wrote “Unless by “contemporary fascism” they mean “anything we don’t like”, which come to think of it IS what they mean by it.”

  198. @Svigor

    Huey Long said that when fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.

    There have been plenty of examples of the truth of this, then and now.
     

    There’s debate over who did and didn’t say what to articulate this basic point, but the great H.L. Mencken did say this:

    “Fascism is not likely to be identical with the kinds on tap in Germany, Italy and Russia; indeed, it is very apt to come in under the name of anti-Fascism.”
     
    When you find yourself using the enemy's pejoratives ("fascist"), it's time for an inventory.

    Rightists need to stop doing this. Way too common for conservatives to find themselves criticizing Islam because anti-gay and anti-feminist, calling the Democrats the Real Racists, etc. Shows a lack of brains or balls. It's fine to make talking points out of how phony the left is, but when you move from that to putting yourself forward as the REAL anti-racist, pro-feminist, pro-homosexualist, anti-fascist, etc., or criticizing racism, anti-feminism, anti-homosexualism, fascism, etc., then you've totally lost the fucking plot. At that point, you're a leftist, kosher gonservative wing.

    No, these pro-open-borders, anti-white, pro-non-white, anti-nationalist, pro-homosexual, pro-tranny degenerates aren't "fascists."

    No, the use of street violence for political ends isn't "facist"; fascism arose in REACTION to communism; fascist street violence was a REACTION to leftist street violence. The Soviets murdered millions of innocent people and fomented violent revolution throughout Europe before fascism became a force in the world.

    If he did expect this to happen, then I’d say he was looking to bait them into damaging themselves. He’s likely caused Antifa and their defenders and enablers more trouble than anyone has managed to since Trump’s inauguration.
     
    All of the supposed "damage" coming at the hands of (((Big Media))), so let's just say I'm from Missouri on this one.

    And he’s done all of this regardless of how much easier it would be, on ascriptive and biographical factors alone, for him to be just another SJW journalist.
     
    His gofundme is probably grateful for his choice. SJW "journalists" are mostly weighing whether or not to learn to code at the moment.

    Andy Ngo raised 150K?
     
    Andy's wallet is thanking Andy's bravery as we speak.

    “Neoliberal” would imply they’re free-market conservatives or something. They’re mostly left-anarchists or Communists. Though plenty I’m sure are ideologically flexible, enough to run local businesses (like Cider Riot), or take Soros money.
     
    As someone else pointed out, in America neoliberal has its own meaning; basically, the politics of the modern leftist ruling class. Hillary Clinton, Hussein Obama, etc. Woke capital, intersectionalism, invade the world invite the world, etc.

    As for "antifa," they're morons who work for the oligarchs but are too stupid to know it, or too shitty to care. That's why their positions and the positions of the average Fortune 500 board are identical. The "anarchist" or "communist" labels are just a pose to excuse their mob behavior and complement their LARP; they want a way to overstimulate their lizard brains while getting permission/praise from on high AND LARPing as plucky rebels. They're the dregs of humanity, the sort long ago identified by the Frankfort Shul as their best mob muscle material.

    Replies: @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @guest

    Fascism is to the left of just about everything in America. Mussolini and Moseley agreed. Antifa are modern Black Shirts, amoral street thugs. Long and Mencken nailed it.

    As for using the Left’s terminology (rightists didn’t care for the faggy Fascists either), iStevers have often complained about “tax cuts for the rich”, and I don’t recall your calling them out for that.

    ” DR3″ is a hamfisted way of saying “Dems know the truth”, that they implicitly admit to HBD. It’s our job to force them to be explicit.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Reg Cæsar

    No, our job is to defeat them utterly. If they wish someday to contest that primacy they will indeed be forced to accept HBD, but you’re putting the cart ahead of the horse.

  199. @the one they call Desanex
    @Reg Cæsar

    Who gouged out her poor little eyes? Does anybody else find it creepy to see holes where eyes should be?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Who gouged out her poor little eyes? Does anybody else find it creepy to see holes where eyes should be?

    That’s common in metal sculpture. One New Year’s Eve afternoon, I put blue bubblegum in F Scott Fitzgerald’s eyes. That night, I stood nearby to watch the reactions. One SJW threw a minor fit– he accompanied two college girls– and fished it out himself.

  200. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    I know a few of these dipshits from the fringes of NYC politics. One is the son of a federal judge in New Jersey, another claimed to be an honest-to-goodness Stalinist before he drifted off into Palestine Solidarity situationism.

    They are without exception physically stunted, either doughy and weak or spindly and epicene, usually vegan, and they all dress like they're in faggy emo bands. They f-ing love comic books, they call some of them 'graphic novels' ffs. They have tons of evil and/or retarded tats, and they'd never fight you or anyone else without 16 other little shits with them, and only then wearing a mask. Even then you could take out a couple because they are complete pussies and you can tell just by looking at them they cannot fight.

    However, letting these d-bags get away with this stuff will attract a few genuinely malevolent and dangerous people who like the idea of getting away with stuff. Sociopaths keep a lookout for opportunities like this.

    Replies: @Kronos, @J.Ross

    One of the things 4chan did that you’ll never hear about was Right Wing Safety Squads. Left-leaning youth collect self-destructive behaviors. Aging y-list “punk rockers” bed high school kids at “artistic spaces.” By perusing free weeklies and classifieds a curious onlooker can identify “squats” — off the books and out-of-code communal residences full of art projects and used as concert venues. The fire department might appreciate the tip. They didn’t get one in time to prevent the Ghost Ship Fire, the details of which are rage-inducing: one door, amateur-made wood mezzanine with one egress, out of code wiring, every surface covered with flammable decorations, space packed for music concert. The only thing more maddening is the tone of the “administrator” chick NPR interviewed afterward.

  201. But, now, KASHOGGI!!! We must go to war with Saudi Arabia over this Noble Member of the Fourth Estate!

  202. @Svigor

    Huey Long said that when fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.

    There have been plenty of examples of the truth of this, then and now.
     

    There’s debate over who did and didn’t say what to articulate this basic point, but the great H.L. Mencken did say this:

    “Fascism is not likely to be identical with the kinds on tap in Germany, Italy and Russia; indeed, it is very apt to come in under the name of anti-Fascism.”
     
    When you find yourself using the enemy's pejoratives ("fascist"), it's time for an inventory.

    Rightists need to stop doing this. Way too common for conservatives to find themselves criticizing Islam because anti-gay and anti-feminist, calling the Democrats the Real Racists, etc. Shows a lack of brains or balls. It's fine to make talking points out of how phony the left is, but when you move from that to putting yourself forward as the REAL anti-racist, pro-feminist, pro-homosexualist, anti-fascist, etc., or criticizing racism, anti-feminism, anti-homosexualism, fascism, etc., then you've totally lost the fucking plot. At that point, you're a leftist, kosher gonservative wing.

    No, these pro-open-borders, anti-white, pro-non-white, anti-nationalist, pro-homosexual, pro-tranny degenerates aren't "fascists."

    No, the use of street violence for political ends isn't "facist"; fascism arose in REACTION to communism; fascist street violence was a REACTION to leftist street violence. The Soviets murdered millions of innocent people and fomented violent revolution throughout Europe before fascism became a force in the world.

    If he did expect this to happen, then I’d say he was looking to bait them into damaging themselves. He’s likely caused Antifa and their defenders and enablers more trouble than anyone has managed to since Trump’s inauguration.
     
    All of the supposed "damage" coming at the hands of (((Big Media))), so let's just say I'm from Missouri on this one.

    And he’s done all of this regardless of how much easier it would be, on ascriptive and biographical factors alone, for him to be just another SJW journalist.
     
    His gofundme is probably grateful for his choice. SJW "journalists" are mostly weighing whether or not to learn to code at the moment.

    Andy Ngo raised 150K?
     
    Andy's wallet is thanking Andy's bravery as we speak.

    “Neoliberal” would imply they’re free-market conservatives or something. They’re mostly left-anarchists or Communists. Though plenty I’m sure are ideologically flexible, enough to run local businesses (like Cider Riot), or take Soros money.
     
    As someone else pointed out, in America neoliberal has its own meaning; basically, the politics of the modern leftist ruling class. Hillary Clinton, Hussein Obama, etc. Woke capital, intersectionalism, invade the world invite the world, etc.

    As for "antifa," they're morons who work for the oligarchs but are too stupid to know it, or too shitty to care. That's why their positions and the positions of the average Fortune 500 board are identical. The "anarchist" or "communist" labels are just a pose to excuse their mob behavior and complement their LARP; they want a way to overstimulate their lizard brains while getting permission/praise from on high AND LARPing as plucky rebels. They're the dregs of humanity, the sort long ago identified by the Frankfort Shul as their best mob muscle material.

    Replies: @Alden, @Reg Cæsar, @guest

    Antifa thugs are shock troops for the ruling order, much like blacks. No one expects black thugs to agree with neoliberalism or know what it is. They tend to have a wild range of political opinions, stuck together from a dozen different jigsaw puzzles. With some of the more colorful conspiracy theories around.

    Nevertheless, powers that be exploit them, sometimes to the extreme of shutting down entire cities.

  203. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/pnjaban/status/1145597621622341632

    She is also the lawyer representing Damore against google.

    Good for her.

    She is a Punjabi Sikh, and doesn't mind fighting, apparently.

    Like the British, the RNC is outsourcing the mercenary positions to outsiders like DJT while they sit back and reap the benefits.

    She led the prayer at the RNC convention, in Punjabi, just prior to Trump getting the nomination.

    I suspect this is not the last we have heard from her.

    Replies: @ACommenter

    sikhs tend to be conservative and pro-Anglo- they especially understand the threat of globalist ‘invite the [muslim] world’

  204. @Reg Cæsar
    @Svigor

    Fascism is to the left of just about everything in America. Mussolini and Moseley agreed. Antifa are modern Black Shirts, amoral street thugs. Long and Mencken nailed it.

    As for using the Left's terminology (rightists didn't care for the faggy Fascists either), iStevers have often complained about "tax cuts for the rich", and I don't recall your calling them out for that.

    " DR3" is a hamfisted way of saying "Dems know the truth", that they implicitly admit to HBD. It's our job to force them to be explicit.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    No, our job is to defeat them utterly. If they wish someday to contest that primacy they will indeed be forced to accept HBD, but you’re putting the cart ahead of the horse.

  205. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    (Google Docs, if you have privacy concerns)
     
    What does this statement from his tweet mean?

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Don’t click the link if you have an insecure connection and don’t want Google to know you’ve clicked it. Right now Google is more or less a giant pile of sugar attracting all manner of flies so may well be good advice.

  206. @Svigor
    @Bill P

    Word is he's a homosexual performance artist who sets himself up to get attacked so he can get media coverage and donations.

    The fact that (((Big Media))) is showering him with attention and ignoring the huwhite guy who got his head split open is congruent.

    John Blum and Adam Kelly:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49029/watch-elderly-man-beaten-crowbar-another-has-head-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Don't hold your breath waiting for (((Big Media))) to show their pictures, play their video, or speak their names.

    https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2019/07/screen_shot_2019-07-01_at_10.49.10_am.png?itok=1YSdjTkQ

    Replies: @David, @bored identity, @bored identity, @Dr Van Nostrand

    Err… You do realize the Daily Wire which feature this story is founded and edited by Ben SHAPIRO.

    Your impressive habit of self goals continues unabated .

  207. @International Jew
    I think there's going to be some serious violence once the campaign really gets under way in 2020.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anon, @MBlanc46

    The Left are obviously spoiling for it. If one can go by website comments, there are many on the Right who would welcome it. It’s certainly plausible that there will be some violence, and, perhaps, early incidents will spark later incidents. If violence does occur, I hope that those on the Right will govern themselves in such a way that the thuggish nature of the Left is made manifest.

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