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From the NY Times:

Once in the Vanguard of Diversity, Knicks Build a Future That Echoes the Past

On Pro Basketball
By HARVEY ARATON AUG. 12, 2017

A reliable and deserving piñata for critics since the turn of the century, the Knicks are suddenly drawing applause for going all-in on front-office diversity, for being progressively bold, for doing the right thing.

Please be advised: This is not the first time in the team’s long but recently stormy social history that it has been at the forefront of minority advancement. …

With the promotion of Steve Mills to team president from general manager last month and the hiring of Scott Perry to replace Mills, the Knicks have the only African-American president-and-general-manager tandem in the league. … The Knicks did not stop there. Mills and Perry added Gerald Madkins as assistant general manager, Craig Robinson as vice president for player development and Harold Ellis as director of player personnel. All are black.

Nothing is more Diverse than “All are black.”

Hey, where did I hear the name Craig Robinson before?

Like in Michelle Robinson Obama?

C’mon, Jimmy Dolan, go for it: Appoint Barack head coach of the Knicks! He’s got nothing better to do and he’d love an excuse to move to New York with its much better golf courses than DC.

Richard Lapchick, a human rights activist and watchdog on racial and gender hiring practices in the sports industry, is not easily impressed. His report cards on race and gender for the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at the University of Central Florida have for years statistically laid bare the challenges that minorities have faced climbing the coaching and administrative ladders in professional and big-time college sports.

… He has known Mills since the early 1990s, and worked with him on the league’s diversity training strategies.

… That rings familiar to what was said in the fall of 1979, when the Knicks crossed another racial threshold. Coming out of training camp, Coach Red Holzman cut his remaining white players and began the season with the first all-black Knicks team — which was soon to play Detroit in the first N.B.A. game without a white player.

Now that’s diversity!

 
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  1. If African-Americans tend to be better basketball players than others (European-Americans, etc.) then it is ok with me if they dominate the teams.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    If African-Americans tend to be better basketball players than others (European-Americans, etc.) then it is ok with me if they dominate the teams.
     
    Yes, and by extension:

    If white men tend to be better at almost everything else, then it is okay with me if they dominate everything else.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    The most exciting player on the Knicks now is white.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/894058402120441857
    , @anon
    Knicks have already had a black President. Here he is, being deposed, in a racially-controversial exchange (by the standards of the prevailing zeitgeist) as part of the sexual harassment lawsuit filed against him. And the female plaintiff (who won an eight-figure settlement) was also a black Knicks executive.

    So it would seem to me that this isn't the Knicks first brush with diversity...
  2. You still need to LGBTize and BLMify the black players to achieve full score.

    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    There's a striking similarity between BLM and Haiti's Tonton Macoute paramilitary force. They are both supported by the authorities (the deep state Clintonites and Soros brigade in BLM's case), and they both inflict a reign of terror, sending the murder rate sky-high in their own communities. Mythology is important, with the Haitians preferring Voodoo, and BLM imaging that it's still 1965 in Selma, Alabama.
  3. Having all-black basketball teams is great news for spreading HBD-awareness. Barack Obama for example was HBD-aware about African’s differential abilities in some sports (I think he enthused about a book written by John Entine). So we should applaud loudly when all-black NBA teams play one another.

    The African-American average superiority in basketball might have to do with relative arm length, along with other features like sprinting speed which are important in basketball.

    Then, later on, after that HBD message is absorbed, we can talk about educational achievement and crime rates, which also have a genetic component.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Being aware of human biodiversity is anti-diversity. Unless you are Obama, and then it's okay because he's diverse.
  4. @Peter Johnson
    Having all-black basketball teams is great news for spreading HBD-awareness. Barack Obama for example was HBD-aware about African's differential abilities in some sports (I think he enthused about a book written by John Entine). So we should applaud loudly when all-black NBA teams play one another.

    The African-American average superiority in basketball might have to do with relative arm length, along with other features like sprinting speed which are important in basketball.

    Then, later on, after that HBD message is absorbed, we can talk about educational achievement and crime rates, which also have a genetic component.

    Being aware of human biodiversity is anti-diversity. Unless you are Obama, and then it’s okay because he’s diverse.

    • Replies: @O'Really
    But will Obama recommend Entine's book to his brother-in-law, Craig Robinson, who is the Knicks' new vice president for player development?
    , @res

    Being aware of human biodiversity is anti-diversity. Unless you are Obama, and then it’s okay because he’s diverse.
     
    Does anyone have a link to his actual statements (I tried searching)? Did he give a balanced discussion or just say blacks are better at X?

    Do you really think Obama would get a pass about a non-Narrative friendly (i.e. minorities and women are better) HBD observation?

    First chapter of
    Taboo
    Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We Are Afraid to Talk About It
    By JON ENTINE
    http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/e/entine-taboo.html
  5. @Peter Johnson
    If African-Americans tend to be better basketball players than others (European-Americans, etc.) then it is ok with me if they dominate the teams.

    If African-Americans tend to be better basketball players than others (European-Americans, etc.) then it is ok with me if they dominate the teams.

    Yes, and by extension:

    If white men tend to be better at almost everything else, then it is okay with me if they dominate everything else.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Peter Johnson
    Yes agreed that would be ok as well. Just as long as we do not have to live the lie that all groups are identically talented at all activities.
  6. @Steve Sailer
    Being aware of human biodiversity is anti-diversity. Unless you are Obama, and then it's okay because he's diverse.

    But will Obama recommend Entine’s book to his brother-in-law, Craig Robinson, who is the Knicks’ new vice president for player development?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @Barnard
    I think that would be a triggering event for a guy like Craig Robinson. Based on ability, he should be a Division II or III college coach.
  7. @Peter Johnson
    If African-Americans tend to be better basketball players than others (European-Americans, etc.) then it is ok with me if they dominate the teams.

    The most exciting player on the Knicks now is white.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Another example of his athleticism.
    https://youtu.be/-yG1UQd7gx4
  8. @Dave Pinsen
    The most exciting player on the Knicks now is white.
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/894058402120441857

    Another example of his athleticism.

    • Replies: @O'Really
    Ironically, the Knicks last season had more active white players than just about any team in the league.
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Blocking shots like that is extremely racist.
    , @It's All Ball Bearings
    That's why he is nicknamed The Unicorn. It is depressing to think he has to play for the Knicks.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Growing up far way from vibrancy, he never absorbed the dogma that blacks are supa affletes and no white man can possibly compete with them. He doesn't know that he's not supposed to be any good.
  9. I wonder what the typical braindead joe lunchbucket sports enthusiast thinks when bludgeoned with DIVERSITY RACISM BLACKETY BLACK BLACK non stop 24 7 on his sports pages and ESPN channels.
    Is he as sick of it as the few woke individuals?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    They are sick of it and have been complaining about it to ESPN in large numbers. ESPN started a new version of Sportscenter about a year ago with two black hosts that also covers entertainment and politics. It did not go over well, the response to people who complained was to call them racist.
    , @SteveRogers42
    I be sick of it.
  10. @O'Really
    But will Obama recommend Entine's book to his brother-in-law, Craig Robinson, who is the Knicks' new vice president for player development?

    Thanks.

  11. @Buzz Mohawk

    If African-Americans tend to be better basketball players than others (European-Americans, etc.) then it is ok with me if they dominate the teams.
     
    Yes, and by extension:

    If white men tend to be better at almost everything else, then it is okay with me if they dominate everything else.

    Yes agreed that would be ok as well. Just as long as we do not have to live the lie that all groups are identically talented at all activities.

  12. @Dave Pinsen
    Another example of his athleticism.
    https://youtu.be/-yG1UQd7gx4

    Ironically, the Knicks last season had more active white players than just about any team in the league.

  13. @Dave Pinsen
    Another example of his athleticism.
    https://youtu.be/-yG1UQd7gx4

    Blocking shots like that is extremely racist.

  14. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Johnson
    If African-Americans tend to be better basketball players than others (European-Americans, etc.) then it is ok with me if they dominate the teams.

    Knicks have already had a black President. Here he is, being deposed, in a racially-controversial exchange (by the standards of the prevailing zeitgeist) as part of the sexual harassment lawsuit filed against him. And the female plaintiff (who won an eight-figure settlement) was also a black Knicks executive.

    So it would seem to me that this isn’t the Knicks first brush with diversity…

  15. I’ve been asking for years, “Where’s the affirmative action for Whites in the NBA, or Asians in the NFL?” No one seems to mind that sports teams are meritocracies.
    It is indeed good for HBD – take a look at Manute Bol and Manu Tuiasosopo, then tell me HBD is a myth.

  16. @El Dato
    You still need to LGBTize and BLMify the black players to achieve full score.

    There’s a striking similarity between BLM and Haiti’s Tonton Macoute paramilitary force. They are both supported by the authorities (the deep state Clintonites and Soros brigade in BLM’s case), and they both inflict a reign of terror, sending the murder rate sky-high in their own communities. Mythology is important, with the Haitians preferring Voodoo, and BLM imaging that it’s still 1965 in Selma, Alabama.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Perhaps BLM would have gone around killing all the black dogs like the Tonton Macoute if Pres. Hillary had had a scary dream about black dogs?
  17. @TelfoedJohn
    There's a striking similarity between BLM and Haiti's Tonton Macoute paramilitary force. They are both supported by the authorities (the deep state Clintonites and Soros brigade in BLM's case), and they both inflict a reign of terror, sending the murder rate sky-high in their own communities. Mythology is important, with the Haitians preferring Voodoo, and BLM imaging that it's still 1965 in Selma, Alabama.

    Perhaps BLM would have gone around killing all the black dogs like the Tonton Macoute if Pres. Hillary had had a scary dream about black dogs?

    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    There is competition for the nickname One-Ton Macoute:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/black-lives-matter-organizer-triggered-white-people-demands-money-being-fat-black-bi

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/09/22/milo-blm-cared-black-lives-youd-firebombing-mcdonalds/

    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/make-it-right/meet-the-woman-behind-black-lives-matter-the-hashtag-that-became-a-civil-rights-movement
  18. @O'Really
    But will Obama recommend Entine's book to his brother-in-law, Craig Robinson, who is the Knicks' new vice president for player development?

    I think that would be a triggering event for a guy like Craig Robinson. Based on ability, he should be a Division II or III college coach.

  19. @jesse helms think-alike
    I wonder what the typical braindead joe lunchbucket sports enthusiast thinks when bludgeoned with DIVERSITY RACISM BLACKETY BLACK BLACK non stop 24 7 on his sports pages and ESPN channels.
    Is he as sick of it as the few woke individuals?

    They are sick of it and have been complaining about it to ESPN in large numbers. ESPN started a new version of Sportscenter about a year ago with two black hosts that also covers entertainment and politics. It did not go over well, the response to people who complained was to call them racist.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    Dr. Boyce Watkins, a former Syracuse finance professor, said that he was told that ESPN has several shows with black hosts because so many black men are unemployed and watch the channel all day.

    https://youtu.be/B7NIItQUDBg?list=FLxuc_KloQXdNjZtORFTAxng&t=852
    , @SteveRogers42
    Vote with your wallets, gentlemen.
  20. If NBA players made the same money as teachers and the coaches/execs were paid like high school principals, I doubt anyone would be very concerned about ‘diversity’ in its ranks.

    Obviously the same in tech – no one is concerned about the lopsided over representation of women in teaching or nursing because the pay is pretty ordinary.

    • Replies: @David Allan coe
    Teachers and nurses actually have a higher standard of living , typically earning $50,000 - $80,000 even in state like Pennsylvania and areas with much lower housing costs than Silicon Valley...my mother is a nurse and has been making over $75,000 per year since 1997..still working at age 74....my sister earns $80,000 per year as a teacher, gets summers off and is home each day at 4:00...she lives in PA and is a member of a country club and has a nice home in Montgomery County, her husband is a state trooper.

    A women has a much better opportunity to marry a doctor working as a nurse, as my mother and aunt both married physicians they met at the hospitals where they worked...
  21. Nothing is more Diverse than “All are black.”

    “Diversity” is an Orwellian code word that means “dispossession of white heterosexual males.”

    It’s never intended to refer to actual diversity…

  22. @Steve Sailer
    Perhaps BLM would have gone around killing all the black dogs like the Tonton Macoute if Pres. Hillary had had a scary dream about black dogs?
    • Replies: @RonaldB
    Your first reference focuses on reparations.

    Here is the timeline, from what I can figure:

    Slavery existed from about 1607 to 1865. During that time, southern blacks were extraordinarily productive. They built buildings, constructed factories, developed farms, cut roads, and planted and harvested crops, which we are still eating today. This is the basis of the claim for reparations: that Americans are existing off stolen labor and capital.

    Once the slaves were freed, the productivity of blacks took a nosedive. They were not allowed to enter professions, were denied licenses, and were not allowed access to capital.

    Thus, the claim that the US was built on the backs of slaves refers to all the extraordinary productivity exhibited by blacks before 1865, and the fact that we are still living on the fruits of that productivity, since blacks were not productive since then, due to discrimination and bigotry.
  23. I say make it all black. Every position including the engineering and maintenance of all NBA facilities. Make all the pilots who fly the teams around black and all the maintenance on said planes be by blacks. All announcers black, all coaches, scouts, team accountants, lawyers, all black. Give away 5,000 tickets to Trayvon’s cousins for each and every game plus free beer. Etc, etc, etc. I mean everything that touches the NBA, black, black, black.

    • LOL: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Russ
    The ensuing entertainment would extend well beyond the basketball court. An analogue, as it were, to Rep. Hank Johnson fretting that a North Korean missile direct strike might flip or capsize Guam.
    , @anonymous
    Maintenance? Ok...they can sweep the floors and empty the waste paper baskets but I draw the line at engineering. We don't want the buildings to collapse.
    , @Njguy73
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46kXH6GGtT0
    , @MBlanc46
    You forgot the free purple drank.
  24. Didn’t know the NBA was still around; used to watch John Havlicek on TV when I was in high school; it was winter and there was no baseball or football.

    • Replies: @Njguy73
    You like hockey?
  25. You hear this sentiment a lot with the NFL, probably because it has a bigger audience. To me, it’s always been crazy talk. I mean, take race out of the equation. Gronk is a really good player, but could he be Belichick? No one in their right mind would think so. Without the rose-tinted glasses of racial inequality no one on the Left would even think so. But that is what they are saying in aggregate.

    The NBA is a bit more complicated because it is even blacker. On certain levels of non-black, you risk offending the players, so there’s a distortion effect in management. One reason Donald Sterling was forced to sell his team was because he said there should be more white chearleaders. This proposition was based on fanservice to a whiter audience. It made sense, even egalitarian sense, but just not SJW sense.

  26. @Arclight
    If NBA players made the same money as teachers and the coaches/execs were paid like high school principals, I doubt anyone would be very concerned about 'diversity' in its ranks.

    Obviously the same in tech - no one is concerned about the lopsided over representation of women in teaching or nursing because the pay is pretty ordinary.

    Teachers and nurses actually have a higher standard of living , typically earning $50,000 – $80,000 even in state like Pennsylvania and areas with much lower housing costs than Silicon Valley…my mother is a nurse and has been making over $75,000 per year since 1997..still working at age 74….my sister earns $80,000 per year as a teacher, gets summers off and is home each day at 4:00…she lives in PA and is a member of a country club and has a nice home in Montgomery County, her husband is a state trooper.

    A women has a much better opportunity to marry a doctor working as a nurse, as my mother and aunt both married physicians they met at the hospitals where they worked…

  27. @Steve Sailer
    Being aware of human biodiversity is anti-diversity. Unless you are Obama, and then it's okay because he's diverse.

    Being aware of human biodiversity is anti-diversity. Unless you are Obama, and then it’s okay because he’s diverse.

    Does anyone have a link to his actual statements (I tried searching)? Did he give a balanced discussion or just say blacks are better at X?

    Do you really think Obama would get a pass about a non-Narrative friendly (i.e. minorities and women are better) HBD observation?

    First chapter of
    Taboo
    Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We Are Afraid to Talk About It
    By JON ENTINE
    http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/e/entine-taboo.html

    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    Athleticism is a hard thing to define.

    One big thing favors blacks in sports, at least the big American sports that people follow (besides baseball), is how the setup of the game favors quick twitch and speed.

    These sports evolved this way, with no consideration for stacking the deck for black players.

    But I could change the makeup of football almost totally with these two changes:

    1) Tall grass. I mean tall grass like Notre Dame used to have. Everyone has to have tall grass. Even the astroturf stuff has to be "Tall." You want big thick ankles and calves now. No more gazelle legs.

    2) Single platoon football. Limited substitutions. You have to play 60 minutes, and play an offensive and defensive position. Like college football before that rule change in the 50's or early 60's.

    Also think that allowing offensive linemen to use their hands totally changes the games, i.e. legalize holding. That's not as ridiculous as it sounds, my thinking is you just made speed rushing or blitzing outside linebacker pass rushes basically impossible.

    Totally changes the game. That means we have to bring back bump and run coverage, another thing that devalues speed guys.

    This is a long winded way to say I'm not altogether sure blacks are better athletes. This is my dispassionate view, with no political or racial sentiment involved with it to the best of my knowledge.

    Yeah, I know East Africans, endurance, etc. But they give up something for that in all around ability.

    So what is "athleticism," and what is a true test of it? I know we have the decathlon, it would have to be something that treated the same elements.

    But sports like American football... too many specialists. Nose tackles that couldn't really be anything but nose tackles. Pas s rush specialists.

    Basketball seems to my eye to be really geared towards quick twitch. But at the same time the best body type for it (tall, slender, long arms and legs) is a build you see more blacks than anyone else have.

    Sports like baseball and soccer seem like they have room for almost every gamut of athleticism though.
  28. @res

    Being aware of human biodiversity is anti-diversity. Unless you are Obama, and then it’s okay because he’s diverse.
     
    Does anyone have a link to his actual statements (I tried searching)? Did he give a balanced discussion or just say blacks are better at X?

    Do you really think Obama would get a pass about a non-Narrative friendly (i.e. minorities and women are better) HBD observation?

    First chapter of
    Taboo
    Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We Are Afraid to Talk About It
    By JON ENTINE
    http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/e/entine-taboo.html

    Athleticism is a hard thing to define.

    One big thing favors blacks in sports, at least the big American sports that people follow (besides baseball), is how the setup of the game favors quick twitch and speed.

    These sports evolved this way, with no consideration for stacking the deck for black players.

    But I could change the makeup of football almost totally with these two changes:

    1) Tall grass. I mean tall grass like Notre Dame used to have. Everyone has to have tall grass. Even the astroturf stuff has to be “Tall.” You want big thick ankles and calves now. No more gazelle legs.

    2) Single platoon football. Limited substitutions. You have to play 60 minutes, and play an offensive and defensive position. Like college football before that rule change in the 50’s or early 60’s.

    Also think that allowing offensive linemen to use their hands totally changes the games, i.e. legalize holding. That’s not as ridiculous as it sounds, my thinking is you just made speed rushing or blitzing outside linebacker pass rushes basically impossible.

    Totally changes the game. That means we have to bring back bump and run coverage, another thing that devalues speed guys.

    This is a long winded way to say I’m not altogether sure blacks are better athletes. This is my dispassionate view, with no political or racial sentiment involved with it to the best of my knowledge.

    Yeah, I know East Africans, endurance, etc. But they give up something for that in all around ability.

    So what is “athleticism,” and what is a true test of it? I know we have the decathlon, it would have to be something that treated the same elements.

    But sports like American football… too many specialists. Nose tackles that couldn’t really be anything but nose tackles. Pas s rush specialists.

    Basketball seems to my eye to be really geared towards quick twitch. But at the same time the best body type for it (tall, slender, long arms and legs) is a build you see more blacks than anyone else have.

    Sports like baseball and soccer seem like they have room for almost every gamut of athleticism though.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    Fast twitch muscle fiber?
    , @SteveRogers42
    It all depends on the definition of "athleticism". If our popular professional sports were based on strength, durability, and direct combativeness, rather than short sprints and vertical jumps, our ESPN superstars would look like the Olympic wrestling team, or the competitors in the World's Strongest Man. Or like the classes at BUDS and Pararescue Indoc.

    Floyd Mayweather wouldn't fare too well fighting bareknuckle under London Prize Ring Rules.
    , @Bugg
    Having a son play high school and now college OL has shown me things have changed a lot since my brief Pop Warner days. White guys actually are statistically very prominent at OL positions.At college camps the OL and QB slots are the only place you see a majority of white guys. Further the speed and strength training have made blocking defenders without using your hands impossible. In fact at all levels it's understood you cannot hit the center until he snaps the ball. Otherwise the defense would destroy him while prone every play. And all of those things would get quarterbacks hurt. And the effort needed to play both ways is now simply impossible. My son played both ways in HS; he was exhausted by the end. In a local all star game playing only OL he was even more tired facing better players for half the time.
    , @SteveRogers42
    When The Narrative stacks the deck, even the concept of athleticism becomes a bit fuzzy.

    http://modernheretic3000.blogspot.com/2017/08/meet-wyomings-amazing-unknown.html
  29. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I say make it all black. Every position including the engineering and maintenance of all NBA facilities. Make all the pilots who fly the teams around black and all the maintenance on said planes be by blacks. All announcers black, all coaches, scouts, team accountants, lawyers, all black. Give away 5,000 tickets to Trayvon's cousins for each and every game plus free beer. Etc, etc, etc. I mean everything that touches the NBA, black, black, black.

    The ensuing entertainment would extend well beyond the basketball court. An analogue, as it were, to Rep. Hank Johnson fretting that a North Korean missile direct strike might flip or capsize Guam.

  30. Lapchick has a looonnnggg history with the Knicks and diversity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lapchick

    His daddy drafted the first NBA negro player, Sweetwater Clifton, as Knicks coach in 1950!

    Knicks fans were none too happy about that…

    I like the suggestion to just cut to the chase and make it the NBA; Negro Basketball Association. All negro; all the time.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    aka Nothing But Africans
  31. @TelfoedJohn
    There is competition for the nickname One-Ton Macoute:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/black-lives-matter-organizer-triggered-white-people-demands-money-being-fat-black-bi

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/09/22/milo-blm-cared-black-lives-youd-firebombing-mcdonalds/

    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/make-it-right/meet-the-woman-behind-black-lives-matter-the-hashtag-that-became-a-civil-rights-movement

    Your first reference focuses on reparations.

    Here is the timeline, from what I can figure:

    Slavery existed from about 1607 to 1865. During that time, southern blacks were extraordinarily productive. They built buildings, constructed factories, developed farms, cut roads, and planted and harvested crops, which we are still eating today. This is the basis of the claim for reparations: that Americans are existing off stolen labor and capital.

    Once the slaves were freed, the productivity of blacks took a nosedive. They were not allowed to enter professions, were denied licenses, and were not allowed access to capital.

    Thus, the claim that the US was built on the backs of slaves refers to all the extraordinary productivity exhibited by blacks before 1865, and the fact that we are still living on the fruits of that productivity, since blacks were not productive since then, due to discrimination and bigotry.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Tiny Duck, is that you?

    If not, then you start with the reparations Ronald. Be my guest.

  32. @Barnard
    They are sick of it and have been complaining about it to ESPN in large numbers. ESPN started a new version of Sportscenter about a year ago with two black hosts that also covers entertainment and politics. It did not go over well, the response to people who complained was to call them racist.

    Dr. Boyce Watkins, a former Syracuse finance professor, said that he was told that ESPN has several shows with black hosts because so many black men are unemployed and watch the channel all day.

    • Replies: @Dee
    "ESPN has several shows with black hosts because so many black men are unemployed and watch the channel all day"

    Why would ESPN want an audience with no money? Advertisers want the womyn that are spending 80% of all disposable income to be the viewers....can't see the negro womyn sitting down next to the unemployed negro dude and watching ESPN; they can't take the time away from their govt job at the DMV or the Post Office....where they get the disposable income, that advertisers crave.
    , @Bleuteaux
    Isn't this at least part of the reason that half (or whatever) of all commercials are black these days?
    , @bored identity
    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced game tickets and consequentially feed the NBeAst?

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced jerseys & sneakers and consequentially feed the NBeAst?

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced subscription on ESPN and consequentially feed the NBeAst?

    Exactly!

    Now, you wanna watch Inferior Whitey still being the Quickest, Strongest, Smartest , and Best Conditioned World Master of Athleticism?


    bored identity has a Sport, Made Just for You, Bubba :


    https://youtu.be/pg56eXpnQ5Y
  33. @Dave Pinsen
    Another example of his athleticism.
    https://youtu.be/-yG1UQd7gx4

    That’s why he is nicknamed The Unicorn. It is depressing to think he has to play for the Knicks.

  34. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I say make it all black. Every position including the engineering and maintenance of all NBA facilities. Make all the pilots who fly the teams around black and all the maintenance on said planes be by blacks. All announcers black, all coaches, scouts, team accountants, lawyers, all black. Give away 5,000 tickets to Trayvon's cousins for each and every game plus free beer. Etc, etc, etc. I mean everything that touches the NBA, black, black, black.

    Maintenance? Ok…they can sweep the floors and empty the waste paper baskets but I draw the line at engineering. We don’t want the buildings to collapse.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Says who (or is that whom)?
  35. “Dont Be a Sucker !”, or “How Did I Miss My Boat for D-Day Extravaganza While Shootin’ Hoops on Duty” :

    (From McMuffinpedia )

    “…Red Holzman attended the University of Baltimore and later the City College of New York, where he played for two years until graduation in 1942.

    Holzman joined the United States Navy in the same year, and played on the Norfolk, Virginia Naval Base team for two years. … ”

    NBA Finals Solution:

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced game tickets and consequentially feed the N-BeAst?

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced jerseys & sneakers and consequentially feed the N-BeAst?

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced subscription on ESPN and consequentially feed the N-BeAst?

    Exactly!

    Now, you wanna watch Inferior Whitey still being the Quickest, Strongest, Smartest, and Best Conditioned World Master of Athleticism?

    bored identity has a Sport Made Just for You, Bubba :

  36. @Triumph104
    Dr. Boyce Watkins, a former Syracuse finance professor, said that he was told that ESPN has several shows with black hosts because so many black men are unemployed and watch the channel all day.

    https://youtu.be/B7NIItQUDBg?list=FLxuc_KloQXdNjZtORFTAxng&t=852

    “ESPN has several shows with black hosts because so many black men are unemployed and watch the channel all day”

    Why would ESPN want an audience with no money? Advertisers want the womyn that are spending 80% of all disposable income to be the viewers….can’t see the negro womyn sitting down next to the unemployed negro dude and watching ESPN; they can’t take the time away from their govt job at the DMV or the Post Office….where they get the disposable income, that advertisers crave.

  37. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I say make it all black. Every position including the engineering and maintenance of all NBA facilities. Make all the pilots who fly the teams around black and all the maintenance on said planes be by blacks. All announcers black, all coaches, scouts, team accountants, lawyers, all black. Give away 5,000 tickets to Trayvon's cousins for each and every game plus free beer. Etc, etc, etc. I mean everything that touches the NBA, black, black, black.

  38. @TheOldOne
    Didn't know the NBA was still around; used to watch John Havlicek on TV when I was in high school; it was winter and there was no baseball or football.

    You like hockey?

  39. Because of teh interwebs and some white sports geek dude, we know how the 1979 -80 All Blacks did. They didn’t qualify for playoffs, which I understand in basketball means they sucked.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979%E2%80%9380_New_York_Knicks_season

  40. It’ll be great to see the Knicks flounder!

  41. When Neo-Stalinists say “diversity”‘ substitute “non-white”. That usually clarifies their meaning.

  42. @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I say make it all black. Every position including the engineering and maintenance of all NBA facilities. Make all the pilots who fly the teams around black and all the maintenance on said planes be by blacks. All announcers black, all coaches, scouts, team accountants, lawyers, all black. Give away 5,000 tickets to Trayvon's cousins for each and every game plus free beer. Etc, etc, etc. I mean everything that touches the NBA, black, black, black.

    You forgot the free purple drank.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    And the skittles.
  43. @Sunbeam
    Athleticism is a hard thing to define.

    One big thing favors blacks in sports, at least the big American sports that people follow (besides baseball), is how the setup of the game favors quick twitch and speed.

    These sports evolved this way, with no consideration for stacking the deck for black players.

    But I could change the makeup of football almost totally with these two changes:

    1) Tall grass. I mean tall grass like Notre Dame used to have. Everyone has to have tall grass. Even the astroturf stuff has to be "Tall." You want big thick ankles and calves now. No more gazelle legs.

    2) Single platoon football. Limited substitutions. You have to play 60 minutes, and play an offensive and defensive position. Like college football before that rule change in the 50's or early 60's.

    Also think that allowing offensive linemen to use their hands totally changes the games, i.e. legalize holding. That's not as ridiculous as it sounds, my thinking is you just made speed rushing or blitzing outside linebacker pass rushes basically impossible.

    Totally changes the game. That means we have to bring back bump and run coverage, another thing that devalues speed guys.

    This is a long winded way to say I'm not altogether sure blacks are better athletes. This is my dispassionate view, with no political or racial sentiment involved with it to the best of my knowledge.

    Yeah, I know East Africans, endurance, etc. But they give up something for that in all around ability.

    So what is "athleticism," and what is a true test of it? I know we have the decathlon, it would have to be something that treated the same elements.

    But sports like American football... too many specialists. Nose tackles that couldn't really be anything but nose tackles. Pas s rush specialists.

    Basketball seems to my eye to be really geared towards quick twitch. But at the same time the best body type for it (tall, slender, long arms and legs) is a build you see more blacks than anyone else have.

    Sports like baseball and soccer seem like they have room for almost every gamut of athleticism though.

    Fast twitch muscle fiber?

  44. @Triumph104
    Dr. Boyce Watkins, a former Syracuse finance professor, said that he was told that ESPN has several shows with black hosts because so many black men are unemployed and watch the channel all day.

    https://youtu.be/B7NIItQUDBg?list=FLxuc_KloQXdNjZtORFTAxng&t=852

    Isn’t this at least part of the reason that half (or whatever) of all commercials are black these days?

  45. Problem is Steve Mills has been really, really bad at his job with the Knicks for a very long time. James Dolan, if he wanted a zero BS GM who has won a championship he could hire Joe Dumars. Dumars happens to be a black guy, but one he does not spend his days worrying about office politics. But alas, Joe Dumars might actually tell Dolan things he might not like to hear. Instead Dolan prefers Steve Mills blowing sunshine…around the office.

  46. Coach Red Holzman cut his remaining white players and began the season with the first all-black Knicks team — which was soon to play Detroit in the first N.B.A. game without a white player.

    Two points worth noting…

    1) The Knicks missed the playoffs that year.

    2) Detroit’s coach was Dick Vitale, who ended up getting fired 12 games into the season.

    • Replies: @bored identity
    "Dont Be a Sucker!" ,

    or :

    "How Red Missed His Boat for D-Day Extravaganza While Shootin' Hoops on Duty" :



    (From McMuffinpedia )

    "...Red Holzman attended the University of Baltimore and later the City College of New York, where he played for two years until graduation in 1942.

    Holzman joined the United States Navy in the same year, and played on the Norfolk, Virginia Naval Base team for two years. ... "

     

  47. Does anyone care about bakaball?

    And then there is women’s bakaball. Remember when the NBA had a woman player, cutting edge taht was.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    The same sportswriters who obsess over Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens don't care at all that there is by design practically no PED drug testing in the NBA. Based on the physiques either these guys are living in the gym 24/7 or gobbling up some great vitamins. With even minimal drug testing the NBA might be a 3 on 3 league.
  48. @Dave Pinsen
    Another example of his athleticism.
    https://youtu.be/-yG1UQd7gx4

    Growing up far way from vibrancy, he never absorbed the dogma that blacks are supa affletes and no white man can possibly compete with them. He doesn’t know that he’s not supposed to be any good.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    That was Steve's theory.

    Prove them wrong!

    https://youtu.be/-XOzeCjqdt8
  49. @jesse helms think-alike
    I wonder what the typical braindead joe lunchbucket sports enthusiast thinks when bludgeoned with DIVERSITY RACISM BLACKETY BLACK BLACK non stop 24 7 on his sports pages and ESPN channels.
    Is he as sick of it as the few woke individuals?

    I be sick of it.

  50. @Barnard
    They are sick of it and have been complaining about it to ESPN in large numbers. ESPN started a new version of Sportscenter about a year ago with two black hosts that also covers entertainment and politics. It did not go over well, the response to people who complained was to call them racist.

    Vote with your wallets, gentlemen.

  51. @willieskull68
    Does anyone care about bakaball?

    And then there is women's bakaball. Remember when the NBA had a woman player, cutting edge taht was.

    The same sportswriters who obsess over Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens don’t care at all that there is by design practically no PED drug testing in the NBA. Based on the physiques either these guys are living in the gym 24/7 or gobbling up some great vitamins. With even minimal drug testing the NBA might be a 3 on 3 league.

  52. @Sunbeam
    Athleticism is a hard thing to define.

    One big thing favors blacks in sports, at least the big American sports that people follow (besides baseball), is how the setup of the game favors quick twitch and speed.

    These sports evolved this way, with no consideration for stacking the deck for black players.

    But I could change the makeup of football almost totally with these two changes:

    1) Tall grass. I mean tall grass like Notre Dame used to have. Everyone has to have tall grass. Even the astroturf stuff has to be "Tall." You want big thick ankles and calves now. No more gazelle legs.

    2) Single platoon football. Limited substitutions. You have to play 60 minutes, and play an offensive and defensive position. Like college football before that rule change in the 50's or early 60's.

    Also think that allowing offensive linemen to use their hands totally changes the games, i.e. legalize holding. That's not as ridiculous as it sounds, my thinking is you just made speed rushing or blitzing outside linebacker pass rushes basically impossible.

    Totally changes the game. That means we have to bring back bump and run coverage, another thing that devalues speed guys.

    This is a long winded way to say I'm not altogether sure blacks are better athletes. This is my dispassionate view, with no political or racial sentiment involved with it to the best of my knowledge.

    Yeah, I know East Africans, endurance, etc. But they give up something for that in all around ability.

    So what is "athleticism," and what is a true test of it? I know we have the decathlon, it would have to be something that treated the same elements.

    But sports like American football... too many specialists. Nose tackles that couldn't really be anything but nose tackles. Pas s rush specialists.

    Basketball seems to my eye to be really geared towards quick twitch. But at the same time the best body type for it (tall, slender, long arms and legs) is a build you see more blacks than anyone else have.

    Sports like baseball and soccer seem like they have room for almost every gamut of athleticism though.

    It all depends on the definition of “athleticism”. If our popular professional sports were based on strength, durability, and direct combativeness, rather than short sprints and vertical jumps, our ESPN superstars would look like the Olympic wrestling team, or the competitors in the World’s Strongest Man. Or like the classes at BUDS and Pararescue Indoc.

    Floyd Mayweather wouldn’t fare too well fighting bareknuckle under London Prize Ring Rules.

  53. @Sunbeam
    Athleticism is a hard thing to define.

    One big thing favors blacks in sports, at least the big American sports that people follow (besides baseball), is how the setup of the game favors quick twitch and speed.

    These sports evolved this way, with no consideration for stacking the deck for black players.

    But I could change the makeup of football almost totally with these two changes:

    1) Tall grass. I mean tall grass like Notre Dame used to have. Everyone has to have tall grass. Even the astroturf stuff has to be "Tall." You want big thick ankles and calves now. No more gazelle legs.

    2) Single platoon football. Limited substitutions. You have to play 60 minutes, and play an offensive and defensive position. Like college football before that rule change in the 50's or early 60's.

    Also think that allowing offensive linemen to use their hands totally changes the games, i.e. legalize holding. That's not as ridiculous as it sounds, my thinking is you just made speed rushing or blitzing outside linebacker pass rushes basically impossible.

    Totally changes the game. That means we have to bring back bump and run coverage, another thing that devalues speed guys.

    This is a long winded way to say I'm not altogether sure blacks are better athletes. This is my dispassionate view, with no political or racial sentiment involved with it to the best of my knowledge.

    Yeah, I know East Africans, endurance, etc. But they give up something for that in all around ability.

    So what is "athleticism," and what is a true test of it? I know we have the decathlon, it would have to be something that treated the same elements.

    But sports like American football... too many specialists. Nose tackles that couldn't really be anything but nose tackles. Pas s rush specialists.

    Basketball seems to my eye to be really geared towards quick twitch. But at the same time the best body type for it (tall, slender, long arms and legs) is a build you see more blacks than anyone else have.

    Sports like baseball and soccer seem like they have room for almost every gamut of athleticism though.

    Having a son play high school and now college OL has shown me things have changed a lot since my brief Pop Warner days. White guys actually are statistically very prominent at OL positions.At college camps the OL and QB slots are the only place you see a majority of white guys. Further the speed and strength training have made blocking defenders without using your hands impossible. In fact at all levels it’s understood you cannot hit the center until he snaps the ball. Otherwise the defense would destroy him while prone every play. And all of those things would get quarterbacks hurt. And the effort needed to play both ways is now simply impossible. My son played both ways in HS; he was exhausted by the end. In a local all star game playing only OL he was even more tired facing better players for half the time.

    • Replies: @Mark Tea
    The QB and OL have to remember all the plays. The defense is pretty much just attack. Have not looked it up but I think majority of NFL have all-black defenses and many top NCAAs do too. The concern about head injuries looks only to accentuate this, NFL may be going the way of NBA.

    OTOH I always wonder--why are all the field goal kickers white? I can't remember a non-white in the NFL since Alex Huerta back in the 70s or 80s? Even the punters, haven't seen one since Reggie Roby.

  54. @Triumph104
    Dr. Boyce Watkins, a former Syracuse finance professor, said that he was told that ESPN has several shows with black hosts because so many black men are unemployed and watch the channel all day.

    https://youtu.be/B7NIItQUDBg?list=FLxuc_KloQXdNjZtORFTAxng&t=852

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced game tickets and consequentially feed the NBeAst?

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced jerseys & sneakers and consequentially feed the NBeAst?

    For Who-Whom Inferior Whitey buys overpriced subscription on ESPN and consequentially feed the NBeAst?

    Exactly!

    Now, you wanna watch Inferior Whitey still being the Quickest, Strongest, Smartest , and Best Conditioned World Master of Athleticism?

    bored identity has a Sport, Made Just for You, Bubba :

  55. @ScarletNumber

    Coach Red Holzman cut his remaining white players and began the season with the first all-black Knicks team — which was soon to play Detroit in the first N.B.A. game without a white player.
     
    Two points worth noting...

    1) The Knicks missed the playoffs that year.

    2) Detroit's coach was Dick Vitale, who ended up getting fired 12 games into the season.

    “Dont Be a Sucker!” ,

    or :

    “How Red Missed His Boat for D-Day Extravaganza While Shootin’ Hoops on Duty” :

    (From McMuffinpedia )

    “…Red Holzman attended the University of Baltimore and later the City College of New York, where he played for two years until graduation in 1942.

    Holzman joined the United States Navy in the same year, and played on the Norfolk, Virginia Naval Base team for two years. … ”

  56. @anonymous
    Maintenance? Ok...they can sweep the floors and empty the waste paper baskets but I draw the line at engineering. We don't want the buildings to collapse.

    Says who (or is that whom)?

  57. @MBlanc46
    You forgot the free purple drank.

    And the skittles.

  58. @SteveRogers42
    Growing up far way from vibrancy, he never absorbed the dogma that blacks are supa affletes and no white man can possibly compete with them. He doesn't know that he's not supposed to be any good.

    That was Steve’s theory.

    Prove them wrong!

  59. @Dee
    Lapchick has a looonnnggg history with the Knicks and diversity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lapchick

    His daddy drafted the first NBA negro player, Sweetwater Clifton, as Knicks coach in 1950!

    Knicks fans were none too happy about that...

    I like the suggestion to just cut to the chase and make it the NBA; Negro Basketball Association. All negro; all the time.

    aka Nothing But Africans

  60. @RonaldB
    Your first reference focuses on reparations.

    Here is the timeline, from what I can figure:

    Slavery existed from about 1607 to 1865. During that time, southern blacks were extraordinarily productive. They built buildings, constructed factories, developed farms, cut roads, and planted and harvested crops, which we are still eating today. This is the basis of the claim for reparations: that Americans are existing off stolen labor and capital.

    Once the slaves were freed, the productivity of blacks took a nosedive. They were not allowed to enter professions, were denied licenses, and were not allowed access to capital.

    Thus, the claim that the US was built on the backs of slaves refers to all the extraordinary productivity exhibited by blacks before 1865, and the fact that we are still living on the fruits of that productivity, since blacks were not productive since then, due to discrimination and bigotry.

    Tiny Duck, is that you?

    If not, then you start with the reparations Ronald. Be my guest.

  61. @Bugg
    Having a son play high school and now college OL has shown me things have changed a lot since my brief Pop Warner days. White guys actually are statistically very prominent at OL positions.At college camps the OL and QB slots are the only place you see a majority of white guys. Further the speed and strength training have made blocking defenders without using your hands impossible. In fact at all levels it's understood you cannot hit the center until he snaps the ball. Otherwise the defense would destroy him while prone every play. And all of those things would get quarterbacks hurt. And the effort needed to play both ways is now simply impossible. My son played both ways in HS; he was exhausted by the end. In a local all star game playing only OL he was even more tired facing better players for half the time.

    The QB and OL have to remember all the plays. The defense is pretty much just attack. Have not looked it up but I think majority of NFL have all-black defenses and many top NCAAs do too. The concern about head injuries looks only to accentuate this, NFL may be going the way of NBA.

    OTOH I always wonder–why are all the field goal kickers white? I can’t remember a non-white in the NFL since Alex Huerta back in the 70s or 80s? Even the punters, haven’t seen one since Reggie Roby.

  62. @Sunbeam
    Athleticism is a hard thing to define.

    One big thing favors blacks in sports, at least the big American sports that people follow (besides baseball), is how the setup of the game favors quick twitch and speed.

    These sports evolved this way, with no consideration for stacking the deck for black players.

    But I could change the makeup of football almost totally with these two changes:

    1) Tall grass. I mean tall grass like Notre Dame used to have. Everyone has to have tall grass. Even the astroturf stuff has to be "Tall." You want big thick ankles and calves now. No more gazelle legs.

    2) Single platoon football. Limited substitutions. You have to play 60 minutes, and play an offensive and defensive position. Like college football before that rule change in the 50's or early 60's.

    Also think that allowing offensive linemen to use their hands totally changes the games, i.e. legalize holding. That's not as ridiculous as it sounds, my thinking is you just made speed rushing or blitzing outside linebacker pass rushes basically impossible.

    Totally changes the game. That means we have to bring back bump and run coverage, another thing that devalues speed guys.

    This is a long winded way to say I'm not altogether sure blacks are better athletes. This is my dispassionate view, with no political or racial sentiment involved with it to the best of my knowledge.

    Yeah, I know East Africans, endurance, etc. But they give up something for that in all around ability.

    So what is "athleticism," and what is a true test of it? I know we have the decathlon, it would have to be something that treated the same elements.

    But sports like American football... too many specialists. Nose tackles that couldn't really be anything but nose tackles. Pas s rush specialists.

    Basketball seems to my eye to be really geared towards quick twitch. But at the same time the best body type for it (tall, slender, long arms and legs) is a build you see more blacks than anyone else have.

    Sports like baseball and soccer seem like they have room for almost every gamut of athleticism though.

    When The Narrative stacks the deck, even the concept of athleticism becomes a bit fuzzy.

    http://modernheretic3000.blogspot.com/2017/08/meet-wyomings-amazing-unknown.html

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