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From the New York Daily News:

Stasi: San Bernardino killers were radical, ISIS-loving monsters — but one of their victims was just as bigoted
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Saturday, December 5, 2015, 7:57 PM

by Linda Stasi

They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

One man spent his free time writing frightening, NRA-loving, hate-filled screeds on Facebook about the other’s religion.

The other man quietly stewed and brewed his bigotry, collecting the kind of arsenal that the Facebook poster would have envied.

What they didn’t realize is that except for their different religions they were in many ways similar men who even had the same job….

The other man, the victim, Nicholas Thalasinos, was a radical Born Again Christian/Messianic Jew, who also connected with his future wife online and had traveled across the country to meet her.

The killer, however, became half of an Islamic Bonnie & Clyde, while the other died as the male equivalent of Pamela Geller.

The killers deserve every disgusting adjective thrown at them. And more.

But the victim is also inaccurately being eulogized as a kind and loving religious man.

Make no mistake, as disgusting and deservedly dead as the hate-filled fanatical Muslim killers were, Thalasinos was also a hate-filled bigot. Death can’t change that. But in the U.S., we don’t die for speaking our minds. Or we’re not supposed to anyway.

Thalasinos was an anti-government, anti-Islam, pro-NRA, rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy, who posted that it would be “Freaking Awesome” if hateful Ann Coulter was named head of Homeland Security.

I’m guessing this isn’t a parody, although it’s possible that it is.

Assuming it’s not, have you ever noticed how often people who accuse other folks of being full of hate are really haters themselves?

 
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  1. Stasi? that seems a fitting name for her

    • Agree: Vendetta, ATX Hipster
    • Replies: @a Newsreader
    It's Tom Wolfe's world. We're only living in it.
    , @Evocatus
    Fun Fact. Mizz Stasi is married to Sid Davidoff, formerly the body man for liberal WASP mayor John Lindsay. Davidoff had some notable run ins with New York's outer borough white ethnics, who were not to fond of Mr. Lindsay's patrician style proto-SJWism. He once almost got into a fistfight with Mike Long, future chairman of the New York State Conservative Party and he beat up a young Conservative Party activist named George Marlin, who was handing out campaign literature for William F. Buckley during his run for mayor in 1965. Marlin would be the Conservative parties candidate for mayor in 1993 againstDavid Dinkins and Rudy Giuliani.
  2. I think we’re really at the point where the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.

    • Replies: @Hail

    the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.
     
    Except that it still controls the vast, decentralized apparatus for socializing the young. New recruits. It works on most.

    One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of "Dr. King"? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas, but in the end the cult won out by the early or mid 1990s even in the "reddest" areas...something like that. Thus most of those under 40 today, and all of those under 30, were subject to this indoctrination from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man, even most self-described "strong conservatives".

    , @ogunsiron
    I wish.
    I've known about "bodies", "intersectionality", "white gaze", "safe spaces" and a lot of the other fashionable nonsense for years. I used to think that as people learned about those stupid ideas, the left would indeed lose much credibility. Instead, I often feel like I'm surrounded by crazy people everywhere nowadays. I'd probably go nuts if I were still going to university.
    Media is grotesquely corrupted and I'm witnessing something I never thought I'd witness: Credible threats on freedom of speech in the usa!
    I'm used to free speech not meaning anything in Canada or the rest of the western world but I did not see the all out assault on free speech coming.
  3. When conservatives are on the losing side of a culture war, say porn or sex ed, they don’t come across as this unhinged, maybe because they’re used to losing on the culture front. Liberals though are losing on guns and immigration and it’s funny watching them lash out. Thankfully they’ll never buy guns and lash out that way, all we have to worry about is having our senses overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil as liberals turn to aromatherapy to deal with their angst.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    … all we have to worry about is having our senses overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil as liberals turn to aromatherapy to deal with their angst.
     
    She comes in incense and patchouli…

    So that's what that song was about. We're now in the year of the cat.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    Liberals though are losing on guns and immigration and it’s funny watching them lash out.

    They are?
    , @ganderson
    I guess we'll "find what's waiting inside". And- Al Stewart's "Last Days of the Century" seems prescient these days - " I hear the hosts of Mohammad coming..."
  4. A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe. No wonder she’s happy he’s dead.

    Stasi, as a name? That’s some truth in advertising.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe.
     
    "Messianic Jews" are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate).

    Which is neither here nor there, though. Thalasinos sounds like he was a good guy. Maybe an iSteve reader.
  5. “Linda Stasi”?

    Will there be more articles forthcoming from Jennifer Gestapo, Ashley Komitet, and Sara Mukhabarat?

    • Agree: Percy Gryce
    • Replies: @greysquirrell
    I chuckled.
    , @Sigourney Uighur
    Lol also Mohammed Savak and Cristina Securitate
  6. BIG BUT. So a free and open exchange of ideas and opinions is now not only forbidden but grounds to murder people while shooting up the Christmas party. Ms. Stasi is now saying essentially that Mr. Thalasinos’ views justified his murder. Remarkable for someone who’s employment relies on the 1st Amendment. And if you do not agree with her you’re hateful bigot who deserve getting murdered.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    Very much so.

    This isn't anything new either, the Lefty blogs during the Bush years was full of such vile c**p. Heck after 7/11 London and Madrid bombings the Lefties here were ecstatic and jumping for joy. See their logic or what passes for it is nearly identical to a rapist's line of thinking that boils down "she had it coming because she dressed provocatively".

    You ever wonder where Stalin and the Nazis got their willing executioners? It is among people like Stasi. They already objectified people(the way psychopaths do) and since they don't believe in rights for anyone but their kind, pulling the trigger is easy.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Its the Attack Of The Brain Dead Vicious White Bitches!!! They're everywhere!
  7. … that means that anyone with https://www.unz.com/isteve in their browser history will be deemed as enemy combatants as opposed to victims in any workplace homicide.

    • Replies: @Thomas Fuller
    Luckily I am a man of leisure and have always managed to avoid anything resembling work. It's a pity I wasn't born in 1900, for then I could have joined the Drones Club along with Bertie Wooster, Boko Fittleworth, and Barmy Fungy Phipps.

    PS These posts are submitted by my valet.
    , @reiner Tor

    … that means that anyone with https://www.unz.com/isteve in their browser history will be deemed as enemy combatants as opposed to victims in any workplace homicide.
     
    If only. I'm sure she thinks we're unlawful combatants. And she's not alone in that.
  8. Surname of “Stasi” wow…is that creepy or what.

    Mort Zuckerman is quite the hater himself, of the Constitution and the values of traditional America.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    Speaking of Zuckerman, the latest Guns & Ammo (1/16) editorial talks about how "The Guns & Ammo Facebook page has been flagged for falling under 'Promoting the Private Sale of Guns."

    Also, he, Eric R. Poole, said typing "Guns And Ammo Facebook" into Google resulted in "Nothing!"

    So, the gun controllers are slowly trying to dry up access to pro-gun ideas on the Internet.

    Mr. Poole asks: "What are we going to do about it? Email me your thoughts at [email protected]"
  9. New York Daily News has been running on high-octane stupid ever since this terrorist attack. WTF is going on?

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @countenance
    They're riding PR herd for the Democrat strategy that started after Paris and now has kicked into ultra high gear after SB, divert attention away from the Muslim-ness of the doers, and scream loudly about the guns, and on top of that, impugn the victims.
  10. Maybe they think that their effort to keep us from noticing things about the perpetrators aren’t working, so now it’s time to get people to think that the victims deserved it.

  11. @TangoMan
    When conservatives are on the losing side of a culture war, say porn or sex ed, they don't come across as this unhinged, maybe because they're used to losing on the culture front. Liberals though are losing on guns and immigration and it's funny watching them lash out. Thankfully they'll never buy guns and lash out that way, all we have to worry about is having our senses overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil as liberals turn to aromatherapy to deal with their angst.

    … all we have to worry about is having our senses overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil as liberals turn to aromatherapy to deal with their angst.

    She comes in incense and patchouli…

    So that’s what that song was about. We’re now in the year of the cat.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate; Year of the Cat remains one of my favorites.
  12. Foto from 2013 — ‘Linda Stasi and Donald Trump’ — I wonder if she regards Trump today as a “hate-filled bigot” — rather unfortunate name, Stasi.

  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a great, eye-opening point. They are us and we are them. I myself even spent that day in a work conference, which aside from not ending with me killing 14 people, was EXACTLY the same thing they did. It’s uncanny- I mean I’m married as well, which aside from my wife not suggesting that I kill or helping me to kill 14 people, is exactly the relationship two of them had. I’ve also joined a religious group in the past, which, aside from suggesting that I be nice to strangers rather than murder 14 of them, seems to be exactly what they did. I’m having a hard time telling the difference between them and me and I know for a fact I didn’t kill 14 people!

    My eyes are opened.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Beautiful. Thanks.
  14. overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil

    Have you ever smelled pure patchouli? The fact that dirty hippies like it doesn’t mean it reeks. The smell reminds me of the air right before a thunderstorm.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It smells like swamp ass.
    , @SPMoore8
    Big upvote on Patchouli,Sandalwood, Frangipani. That's nostrilalgia.
  15. by Linda Stasi

    What’s her middle name? Cheka?

    • Replies: @Gilbert Ratchet
    "What’s her middle name? Cheka?"

    Ogpu

  16. @Wyrd
    New York Daily News has been running on high-octane stupid ever since this terrorist attack. WTF is going on?

    They’re riding PR herd for the Democrat strategy that started after Paris and now has kicked into ultra high gear after SB, divert attention away from the Muslim-ness of the doers, and scream loudly about the guns, and on top of that, impugn the victims.

    • Replies: @Wyrd
    Can't argue with that. I figured they were still raging the terrorists weren't white guys after all.
  17. • Replies: @Wilkey
    I have to wonder if at least a few elite universities are currently reconsidering their affirmative action policies. Probably not, but the promises to spend more money on negro studies programs or whatever may just be a way of saying "nice doggie" while looking for a way to keep these fanatics off campus. I can't imagine these universities are thrilled with the publicity they're getting, especially the images of black students ranting at the president of Princeton and the professor at Yale. Nothing would shut them up faster than the current year's freshmen looking around in 2-3 and noticing there are a lot fewer black students around.
    , @advancedatheist
    If universities have to give blacks "free" tuition, that should come with the condition that blacks get the tuition waiver if they major in subjects which have market value after graduation, like nursing or accounting or something similar.
    , @Anon
    Free tuition for blacks students isn't going anything. If the blacks are getting in free because of the color of their skin, some smart white student will show up with a lawyer and say, "Charging me full tuition because of the color of my skin is discrimination. I want 10 million. Pay up."

    There are a lot of white students facing a ton of debt. They'll be really, really angry if blacks pay no tuition while they themselves have to shoulder the entire burden. Trust me, this is an explosive legal issue. White students will be in an uproar once they think the matter through and smarten up. What's the best way to to through college, after all? Pile on debt, or win enough money out of your school in a settlement so big that you'll never have to work again? Obviously, you hire a lawyer and win the lottery.

    Colleges will have to dig deeply into their endowments to pay for both blacks who want free tuition as well as pay damages to the huge numbers of white students who will be suing the crap out of them. Those schools will go bust. No way will any college open this can of worms.
  18. The only acceptable hatred is hatred directed at the hateful!

  19. These people are disgusting in the way they try to make murder victims out to be somehow the actual guilty ones. Sort of how mass killer Omar Thornton was treated as if he were the aggrieved victim. Another day in America.

  20. A Leftoids greatest fear is conservative words being spread around public places(i.e. college campuses, public airways, Facebook, Twitter etc…)

    Non-Lefties are afraid of bullets being spread around public places.

    So Lefties view conservative words the same way other people view bullets. This is interesting to contemplate. What is the process by which people turn into Leftoids? It must be some form of runaway status whoring.

  21. @Lot

    overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil
     
    Have you ever smelled pure patchouli? The fact that dirty hippies like it doesn't mean it reeks. The smell reminds me of the air right before a thunderstorm.

    It smells like swamp ass.

  22. @Bugg
    BIG BUT. So a free and open exchange of ideas and opinions is now not only forbidden but grounds to murder people while shooting up the Christmas party. Ms. Stasi is now saying essentially that Mr. Thalasinos' views justified his murder. Remarkable for someone who's employment relies on the 1st Amendment. And if you do not agree with her you're hateful bigot who deserve getting murdered.

    Very much so.

    This isn’t anything new either, the Lefty blogs during the Bush years was full of such vile c**p. Heck after 7/11 London and Madrid bombings the Lefties here were ecstatic and jumping for joy. See their logic or what passes for it is nearly identical to a rapist’s line of thinking that boils down “she had it coming because she dressed provocatively”.

    You ever wonder where Stalin and the Nazis got their willing executioners? It is among people like Stasi. They already objectified people(the way psychopaths do) and since they don’t believe in rights for anyone but their kind, pulling the trigger is easy.

    • Replies: @flyover hick
    "You ever wonder where Stalin and the Nazis got their willing executioners? It is among people like Stasi. They already objectified people(the way psychopaths do) and since they don’t believe in rights for anyone but their kind, pulling the trigger is easy."


    Linda “Stasi” – truth really is stranger than fiction.
    You make a point that I’ve tried to get across to conservative family and friends for years.
    Namely, that when it comes to liberals, typical conservatives don’t truly understand with whom they’re dealing with.

    In a different time and a different place, a lot of liberals would be torturing conservatives in the Lubyanka and enjoying it.

  23. The Daily News has been bleeding money for a while. Zuckerman has suggested that without union concessions both among printing, delivery and writing staffs he will take the entire operation on line either several days a week or completely. There have been a series of buyouts with every part of the operation and layoffs of writing staff. Was a time the News was viewed as the middle class paper but now they are tyring to out Times the Times. Like all hard copy newspapers it’s shrunk dramatically. Anyone under 30 doesn’t buy a newspaper any more and they don’t expect to pay for content.

    It’s main competition is Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post. On the books, the Post also loses money. But Murdoch bought up all the local weekly neighborhood papers and pennysavers. Those are all chock full of advertising revenue, he can recycle content cheaply and it keeps the printing presses rolling. So the while The Post part of his operation loses money on the books it’s offset by integrating those very profitable operations. Murdoch has offered Zuckerman the chance to consolidate printing and delivery operations and Zuckerman has refused.

    Stasi actually left the Post for the News.Perhaps she is going overboard with the rest of the News trying to appeal to liberals. But the Times has that niche all locked up.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Under 30? Does anyone under 60 buy newspapers? I read my parents' newspapers cover to cover as a kid but that was when the internet was still a wee bairn. Paying for news seems like paying for water now.
  24. @Reg Cæsar
    "Linda Stasi"?

    Will there be more articles forthcoming from Jennifer Gestapo, Ashley Komitet, and Sara Mukhabarat?

    I chuckled.

  25. Not only might the left lose next year’s Presidential elections but they could be out of power for a generation. The National mood is changing and they know it better than anyone.

  26. havel

    >VII

    LET US now imagine that one day something in our greengrocer snaps and he stops putting up the slogans merely to ingratiate himself. He stops voting in elections he knows are a farce. He begins to say what he really thinks at political meetings. And he even finds the strength in himself to express solidarity with those whom his conscience commands him to support. In this revolt the greengrocer steps out of living within the lie. He rejects the ritual and breaks the rules of the game. He discovers once more his suppressed identity and dignity. He gives his freedom a concrete significance. His revolt is an attempt to live within the truth.

    The bill is not long in coming. He will be relieved of his post as manager of the shop and transferred to the warehouse. His pay will be reduced. His hopes for a holiday in Bulgaria will evaporate. His children’s access to higher education will be threatened. His superiors will harass him and his fellow workers will wonder about him. Most of those who apply these sanctions, however, will not do so from any authentic inner conviction but simply under pressure from conditions, the same conditions that once pressured the greengrocer to display the official slogans. They will persecute the greengrocer either because it is expected of them, or to demonstrate their loyalty, or simply as part of the general panorama, to which belongs an awareness that this is how situations of this sort are dealt with, that this, in fact, is how things are always done, particularly if one is not to become suspect oneself. The executors, therefore, behave essentially like everyone else, to a greater or lesser degree: as components of the post-totalitarian system, as agents of its automatism, as petty instruments of the social auto-totality.

    Thus the power structure, through the agency of those who carry out the sanctions, those anonymous components of the system, will spew the greengrocer from its mouth. …<

    http://vaclavhavel.cz/showtrans.php?cat=eseje&val=2_aj_eseje.html&typ=HTML

  27. havel maybe= trump. there’s sometimes a trump card. “for entertainment only”

  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Real estate shark Mort Zuckerman had this newspaper for sale on the market for many months. No buyers. Last I heard he took it off the market.

    I don’t need to look up the details NY Daily News is another shell that Does. Not. Matter. Like Newsweek which actually sold for $1.

    All the world’s a stage. Most newspaper “subscribers” are nonexistent. Most twitter followers are bots.

    These billionaires buy up the media and puppeteer the politicians. They are scum. That is all.

  29. Stasi’s disgusting hit-piece on a murdered man stops short (barely) of saying he deserved to be murdered. But she goes all the way in saying Thalassios had no right to earn a living, for having the temerity to differ from the narrative.

    We have freedom of speech but even so, a city worker should refrain from such public bigotry. Municipal workers have been fired for spewing and posting racial and sexual slurs.

    It’s a textbook bit of SJWery. You have the right to free speech, but if you use it, your livelihood should be taken away.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    It’s a textbook bit of SJWery. You have the right to free speech, but if you use it, your livelihood should be taken away.
     
    That's because liberals DON'T believe in free speech.

    Also, Stasi is well-known in NYC as a humorless scold.
  30. This is part of a well orchestrated White House campaign to make owning a gun the same as owning a black guy. The new “N” word is NRA. Every liberal pol is running ads talking about how “they stood up to the NRA” which means nothing in the physical world, but in the dreamscape of Progressive politics it means everything.

    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles. Then the left side makes clear that you are disqualified from polite company if you are on the wrong side of history and the right side surrenders.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Yes. It always works. Until it doesn't.

    When they do make the play for gun confiscation the interesting question is how far it goes. The Democrat party believes it can nationalize the police and then use them to take the guns.

    Of course, it won't work. At least for now, the military won't enforce it and will take our side. And if you just consider deer hunters, all by themselves there are too many rifle owners to realize gun confiscation.

    But if it were tried, what of the needless bloodshed? It could be worthy of the 1860s.
    , @anon
    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles.

    I don't know. The NRA actually seems to have been pretty on the ball with this one. They've always been the one group that has fought and won.

    Part of the reason is because all of the anti-gun people in the media own guns themselves. All of them. And they're not about to give them up.

    One of the best examples I've seen was when Ben Affleck was on Bill Maher's show, talking about gun control, and Maher just assumed that Affleck owned guns, and he admitted that he did. You could hear a sort of collective gasp from the audience.

    That's why it won't really work this time to just expel people from polite society.
    , @Boomstick
    The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency--it's one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades--at least since the 60's, and explicitly since the Clinton 90's, when they made it a goal to "de-normalize" gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it's a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn't work. As a result they're a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill.
  31. @countenance
    OT

    Sailer Echo Syndrome:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/05/70-black-campus-groups-plan-protests-demand-free-tuition-black-students/

    It all boils down to gibsmedat and dindunuffins.

    I have to wonder if at least a few elite universities are currently reconsidering their affirmative action policies. Probably not, but the promises to spend more money on negro studies programs or whatever may just be a way of saying “nice doggie” while looking for a way to keep these fanatics off campus. I can’t imagine these universities are thrilled with the publicity they’re getting, especially the images of black students ranting at the president of Princeton and the professor at Yale. Nothing would shut them up faster than the current year’s freshmen looking around in 2-3 and noticing there are a lot fewer black students around.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I had a comment a few weeks ago predicting exactly this happening.

    In short, it will be very subtle, with black admissions going down by maybe a percentage point, and only in a third of selective schools, not all of them. But that's how the black set asides are set: there is no big meeting, schools just pick a target demographic and will only change it very slowly over time. When they feel changes are needed to their targets, they change them just a tad, and keep going if and only if they see their peer schools joining them.

    The thing is, black students are already more costly than white students. They pay less tuition when they are there, hurt the school's SAT/GPA stats and employment after graduation numbers, and donate less later on. Schools are aware of the cost and willing to pay it as long as their competitors are doing the same. But having to do things like move murals, annoy alumni, set up special "diversity centers," hire a bunch of "culturally sensitive peer counselors" and so on make the cost of a "diverse student body" that much higher.

    When Princeton caves and moves its Wilson mural, it is going to cost some huge number like $350,000 to do it properly. The cost of changing Harvard Law's logo, in use for more than 100 years, will be in the millions in direct costs and turn off tens of millions in donations.
  32. Stasi is just another useful idiot enforcing sharia law: you’re not allowed to “slander” Islam, Moslems, Mohammed, or anything or anyone else regarded as Islamic, so that messianic Jew Nicholas Thalasinos, one of the victims slain in the Farooks’ jihad mass murders, had it coming, you see.

    In sharia law slander means anything said or written that offends a Moslem, even when what is said is factually true. This aligns perfectly with identity politics Social Justice Warriors taking umbrage at “microaggressions” and “hate speech.” Like Moslems, and for all their lies about “embracing Diversity,” proglodytes are anti-pluralist despots hell bent on dictating, policing and enforcing conformance to their views and strictures – in the federal cabinet Loretta Lynch being a prime exemplar with her stated intent to prosecute speech that “edges toward violence.” Pity Ms. Lynch seems not to have noticed, let alone not to have remarked upon, the “holy” Koran’s plentiful hateful commands to Moslems to persecute and commit violence upon the kuffar.

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    "Expecting a jihad to follow Christian moral logic is like trying to get a dog high on catnip." --Ann Sterzinger
  33. “Thalasinos was an anti-government, anti-Islam, pro-NRA, rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy, who posted that it would be “Freaking Awesome” if hateful Ann Coulter was named head of Homeland Security.”

    So Nicholas Thalasinos deserved to die because he is a fan of Ann Coulter. But Michael Brown who punched a police officer and tried to steal his gun did not deserve to die.

    Having Right Wing political thought is considered worst than than attempting to murder a police officer.

  34. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:

    The juxtaposition of the first two sentences clearly places the blame for the “rampage” on Thalasinos. She is completely insane.

  35. http://www.staradvertiser.com/breaking-news/woman-in-deadly-california-rampage-had-become-more-devout/

    OT?

    “The FBI would not say what it was looking for, but a neighbor said an old friend of Farook’s lives there. More than three years ago, that person bought the two assault rifles later used in the shooting, but authorities haven’t been able to talk to him because he checked himself into a mental hospital after the attack, said a law enforcement official who was not allowed to discuss the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity.”

    These people were well coached.
    They went off too soon.

    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    "These people were well coached.
    They went off too soon. "

    I agree. One of the flaws In an Al Qaeda or ISIS type operation is that it is almost more of an idea, rather than a top-down commanded group (such as the IRA). I think Jonah Goldberg had something to say about this shortly after 9/11.

    This organizational model can work well initially because it makes it difficult to locate and prosecute/nullify the leaders.

    However, had the Paris attackers waited just another six months to a year before their attack, Europe, and possibly England, would have had many thousands more "refugees," probably containing at least a few hundred more ISIS operatives. They could have struck simultaneously all over Europe, causing real shock and damage to European society, and temporarily at least, making eastern Europe vulnerable to moves by Russia. Instead, European countries now face pressure from citizens to dial back acceptance of "refugees."

    The San Bernadino attack functions similarly as an alarm for the American people, although on a much smaller scale.
  36. @Lot

    overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil
     
    Have you ever smelled pure patchouli? The fact that dirty hippies like it doesn't mean it reeks. The smell reminds me of the air right before a thunderstorm.

    Big upvote on Patchouli,Sandalwood, Frangipani. That’s nostrilalgia.

  37. The NY Times is also really cranking up the anti-white frontlash, though no single article is as vile as Stasi’s equating a victim of mass murder with the murderer.

    Here’s some of the articles they are promoting, just in the past couple days, just in their “opinion” page.

    1. Unsigned Editorial, Fear Ignorance, Not Muslims

    The problem isn’t the Muslim tendency to commit mass murder, it is white people fearing being mass murdered.

    Wherever the investigation leads, Americans must guard against overreaction, and subdue the panicked reflex of distrust and hatred toward the Americans among us who are Muslims. This has been a problem at least since 9/11 and will remain one as long as ignorance about Islam remains deep and widespread.

    Apart from the terrorism, first cousin and uncle-niece incestuous marriages, polygamy and wife beating, the general air of anti-social belligerence Muslims display in public, protests and shrieking about racism, low-IQ/high-fertility welfare mooching, antisemitism, and general barbarism the Muslim immigration brings, I have to say I am very much not looking forward to the coming decade’s media campaign to help me overcome my “ignorance about Islam.” I kind of know what’s coming, as Canada and England are way ahead of us in aggro SJW promotion of Islam:

    – Articles about how burqas are empowering for women and how ignorant whitey needs to learn about the various types of burqas, niqabs, qubos, wa-qopqqos, etc.

    – Campaigns to make Eid a paid holiday on par with Christmas

    – Lawsuits about pork and face covering laws

    – Transparently propagandic articles about Muslim immigrants doing things other than terrorism and welfare fraud like it is an awesome remarkable thing, like the British Muslim woman who won a baking contest reality show and enjoyed several months of fawning MSM coverage for it.

    – Cartoons starting to all feature little “Syeds” and “Fatimas” who are prefect little children who react with a mature magnanimity to the crude racism of the white characters

    – Glowing articles by white converts to Islam and how their life is now so much better

    2. “News Analysis” In Danger in Afghanistan, Unable to Flee

    Propaganda for more immigration of violent low IQ people who hate Americans

    3. Opinion: America Needs a National Slavery Monument

    Slavery was abolished 150 years ago, but the hereditary guilt of whites shall never end.

    4. Nick Kristof: Hysteria about Refugees, but Blindness about Guns

    5. Editorial: The Unfair Treatment of Ebola Workers

    Instead of helping, quarantines actually made the fight against the virus more difficult.

    A few Ebola outbreaks in America that shut down entire cities and cause people to vomit blood until they die is a reasonable price to pay on top of the billions we already spend to keep Africa’s population explosion humming along.

    6. Editorial: End the Gun Epidemic in America

    7. Op-Ed: Cognitive Therapy for the Country

    Article by “a professor of clinical psychiatry and the director of the psychopharmacology clinic” stating that people who support Trump have a mental illness.

    But that doesn’t mean that we should check our brain at the door once we’ve been traumatized and let ourselves be ruled by our emotions.

    Unfortunately, that is exactly what some of our presidential candidates have done in recent weeks. Donald J. Trump would deport all illegal immigrants, and Ben Carson would monitor mosques. Since a vast majority of immigrants and Muslims are neither terrorists nor criminals, these are laughably irrational proposals that would do nothing to diminish danger.

    8. Editorial: Tough Talk and a Cowardly Vote on Terrorism

    9. Editorial cartoon: A Gun Culture Christmas

    How about a gun-culture Ramadan cartoon? Oh wait, the last cartoonist who published something like that was gunned down in his office by a Muslim terrorist. And others who have made such cartoons have had other attempts on their lives in Texas and Denmark.

    10. Video Series: Race in America: Your Stories

    White people suck: personal reflections by a diverse group of people

    This isn’t even all of it! Look for yourself:
    http://www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html

    What a great illustration of how the American left is evolving into a purely anti-white political movement, not one focused on protecting the economic interests of the working and middle classes.

    • Agree: snorlax
    • Replies: @TangoMan
    What a great illustration of how the American left is evolving into a purely anti-white political movement, not one focused on protecting the economic interests of the working and middle classes.

    A modern day Leftist has no choice but to defend the Coalition of the Fringes that they've assembled and the most satisfying way of doing that is to demonize those who are not on the Left. What this does though is it shrinks the margins on the pool of whites who lean left and accelerates white flight from the Democrats towards the Republicans, which in turn amps up the anti-white animus to an even higher level.

    All around the West we saw the same phenomenon play out - Leftist parties having to import 3rd worlders for their votes.

    https://youtu.be/EFTThC17vqI?t=3m24s

    The quest for power has led them down this path and they have to keep doubling down at every stage. They didn't start out as rabidly anti-white, but as whites consistently defect away from the Left, the Left has to signal to the remaining whites that they're better than the defectors, meanwhile they replace the departed whites with new 3rd worlders.
    , @iSteveFan

    Nick Kristof: Hysteria about Refugees, but Blindness about Guns
     
    You could easily swap words and come up with the title of a relevant article, "Hysteria about Guns, but Blindness about Refugees".
  38. @countenance
    OT

    Sailer Echo Syndrome:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/05/70-black-campus-groups-plan-protests-demand-free-tuition-black-students/

    It all boils down to gibsmedat and dindunuffins.

    If universities have to give blacks “free” tuition, that should come with the condition that blacks get the tuition waiver if they major in subjects which have market value after graduation, like nursing or accounting or something similar.

  39. @countenance
    They're riding PR herd for the Democrat strategy that started after Paris and now has kicked into ultra high gear after SB, divert attention away from the Muslim-ness of the doers, and scream loudly about the guns, and on top of that, impugn the victims.

    Can’t argue with that. I figured they were still raging the terrorists weren’t white guys after all.

  40. @ben tillman

    by Linda Stasi
     
    What's her middle name? Cheka?

    “What’s her middle name? Cheka?”

    Ogpu

  41. The Inland Empire where the San Bernardino mass shootings took place used to be a solid Republican region in presidential elections. But that all changed in 2008 when Hussein turned The Inland Empire blue and he did it again in 2012 due to the Mexicanization of the region. The Inland Empire has experienced huge White flight.

    I wonder if Orange County in the long term will eventually go the way of The Inland Empire in presidential elections? If Republicans lose Orange County to the Democrats, the GOP might as close up all of their California offices for good because Orange County is the last bastion of any signs of Republicanism in California.

    But in the short term, will Donald Trump win Orange County in next year’s presidential elections? Is there still enough White voters there for him to carry that county? I assume most Vietnamese voters there will not vote for The Donald due to his views on immigration. I am sure a lot of Viets in Orange County will become Hillary Clinton Republicans, the same way many White Democrats in the 1980s became Reagan Democrats.

    • Replies: @Bert
    Oh shut up. I lived there and you don't know anything about it, so don't talk like you do.
    , @Justin
    GOP is permanently dead in Cali anyway, whites are fleeing and the only growth is coming from immigration. I assume when America collapses Californian Asians will consolidate their control via whatever mechanism seems most convenient at the time (possibly involving rooftop Koreans).
  42. Why is only ‘hate speech’ a problem?

    How about obscene speech, stupid speech, dumb speech, deceitful speech, retarded speech, obnoxious speech, infantile speech, paranoid speech, pompous speech, demented speech, arrogant speech, self-righteous speech, etc?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Why is only ‘hate speech’ a problem?

    How about obscene speech, stupid speech, dumb speech, deceitful speech, retarded speech, obnoxious speech, infantile speech, paranoid speech, pompous speech, demented speech, arrogant speech, self-righteous speech, etc?"

    According to the Left, Right Wingers have a monopoly on all of those types of speeches that you mentioned. Left Wingers are the epitome of perfection.
  43. @The Z Blog
    This is part of a well orchestrated White House campaign to make owning a gun the same as owning a black guy. The new "N" word is NRA. Every liberal pol is running ads talking about how "they stood up to the NRA" which means nothing in the physical world, but in the dreamscape of Progressive politics it means everything.

    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles. Then the left side makes clear that you are disqualified from polite company if you are on the wrong side of history and the right side surrenders.

    Yes. It always works. Until it doesn’t.

    When they do make the play for gun confiscation the interesting question is how far it goes. The Democrat party believes it can nationalize the police and then use them to take the guns.

    Of course, it won’t work. At least for now, the military won’t enforce it and will take our side. And if you just consider deer hunters, all by themselves there are too many rifle owners to realize gun confiscation.

    But if it were tried, what of the needless bloodshed? It could be worthy of the 1860s.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    The Russian word "устрашение" translates to "deterrence" AND "intimidation."

    Right now, AR-15 prices are pretty much rock bottom, and have been because production has caught up with demand since Sandy Hook. The people who wanted one on the first wave are satiated, and bargains abound.

    Let's face it, every AR-15 purchased now represents a vote of "No Confidence" in the regime and it's power base, the MSM and Democrats. They fear the AR-15 because it represents the very same power they command via government edict.

    I urge everyone to buy one (at a minimum) and spit in Obama's eye.

    After you get one, I urge everyone to sign up for Project Appleseed marksmanship training where you will learn how to properly shoot a semi-automatic rifle. (RWVA.org - Revolutionary War Veteran's Association) Learn how to make hits on a 400 yard target with a rack grade rifle and open sights. Google "Project Appleseed" for youtube videos.
  44. @Wilkey
    I have to wonder if at least a few elite universities are currently reconsidering their affirmative action policies. Probably not, but the promises to spend more money on negro studies programs or whatever may just be a way of saying "nice doggie" while looking for a way to keep these fanatics off campus. I can't imagine these universities are thrilled with the publicity they're getting, especially the images of black students ranting at the president of Princeton and the professor at Yale. Nothing would shut them up faster than the current year's freshmen looking around in 2-3 and noticing there are a lot fewer black students around.

    I had a comment a few weeks ago predicting exactly this happening.

    In short, it will be very subtle, with black admissions going down by maybe a percentage point, and only in a third of selective schools, not all of them. But that’s how the black set asides are set: there is no big meeting, schools just pick a target demographic and will only change it very slowly over time. When they feel changes are needed to their targets, they change them just a tad, and keep going if and only if they see their peer schools joining them.

    The thing is, black students are already more costly than white students. They pay less tuition when they are there, hurt the school’s SAT/GPA stats and employment after graduation numbers, and donate less later on. Schools are aware of the cost and willing to pay it as long as their competitors are doing the same. But having to do things like move murals, annoy alumni, set up special “diversity centers,” hire a bunch of “culturally sensitive peer counselors” and so on make the cost of a “diverse student body” that much higher.

    When Princeton caves and moves its Wilson mural, it is going to cost some huge number like $350,000 to do it properly. The cost of changing Harvard Law’s logo, in use for more than 100 years, will be in the millions in direct costs and turn off tens of millions in donations.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    I think that the real price for diversity isn't the upfront cost, but the backend cost imposed by reducing donations.

    Every percent of increased diversity is a lost percent of potential big donors. This will be felt all around in a few years, as larger and larger swaths of the alumni fail to make it big, but it will especially be felt in those institutions which have been largely white male in the past, such as technical schools. It's pretty obvious MIT will hit a major downfall in its donations -- that will be the price to be paid for bringing in a half female class, combined with all manner of other kinds of "diversity".
    , @Wilkey
    Indeed. How often do people see video of Ivy League students in their element? Yet here we have some very public video of supposedly cream-of-the-crop black Ivy League students and it's just not that impressive. I know there are lots of truly brilliant students at Princeton and Yale, but in my mind their reputation took a huge hit. Can't imagine it hasn't been damaged in the minds of lots of others, too.
    , @Feeeeney
    But those costs don't hurt the people who control the universities in the short run, only in the long run. In the short run, agreeing with the demands means more administrator positions. So from the point of view of the people who run the universities, what's not to love.
  45. @Reg Cæsar
    "Linda Stasi"?

    Will there be more articles forthcoming from Jennifer Gestapo, Ashley Komitet, and Sara Mukhabarat?

    Lol also Mohammed Savak and Cristina Securitate

  46. We need a new 9/11 commission report to see how many of the 3000 dead were actually haters and deserved to die on that day.

    Let’s not waste our sympathy on any 9/11 victim who made a joke about Muslims or homos.

    • Replies: @Cryptogenic
    Already partially accomplished.

    "They were not human to me. Black, white, or whatever, they were menaces of nature; they were the fire, the comet, the storm, which could — with no justification — shatter my body."
    , @SPMoore8
    What I find interesting in a lot of articles about the victims of terrorist attacks is that the victims are invariably described as "innocent", as if that even needed to be said. For one thing, it implies that there might be some mass killings in which the victims were "guilty" and "deserving."
  47. Many bourgeois people in the Greater Los Angeles metropolitan area refer to San Bernardino as a ghetto trash city. It is not as bad as Compton, but it is still an undesirable city full of Mexican gangs and meth houses. San Bernardino makes Rancho Cucamonga look like Beverly Hills and Newport Beach in comparison.

    • Replies: @eah
    San Bernardino: Broken City

    Demographics of San Bernardino -- from 2/3 white in 1970 to less than 20% today. Of course that's just a coincidence.
    , @Hail

    refer to San Bernardino as a ghetto trash city.
     
    San Bernardino City, 215,000 people. (Wiki).
    1940: 90%+ seems likely (98% "White"; Hispanic Origin not asked.)
    1970: 66% White Non-Hispanic
    1990: 46% White Non-Hispanic
    2010: 19% White Non-Hispanic

    San Bernardino County, 2.1 million. (Census Bureau).
    2015: 30% White Non-Hispanic

  48. @Lot
    The NY Times is also really cranking up the anti-white frontlash, though no single article is as vile as Stasi's equating a victim of mass murder with the murderer.

    Here's some of the articles they are promoting, just in the past couple days, just in their "opinion" page.

    1. Unsigned Editorial, Fear Ignorance, Not Muslims

    The problem isn't the Muslim tendency to commit mass murder, it is white people fearing being mass murdered.

    Wherever the investigation leads, Americans must guard against overreaction, and subdue the panicked reflex of distrust and hatred toward the Americans among us who are Muslims. This has been a problem at least since 9/11 and will remain one as long as ignorance about Islam remains deep and widespread.
     

    Apart from the terrorism, first cousin and uncle-niece incestuous marriages, polygamy and wife beating, the general air of anti-social belligerence Muslims display in public, protests and shrieking about racism, low-IQ/high-fertility welfare mooching, antisemitism, and general barbarism the Muslim immigration brings, I have to say I am very much not looking forward to the coming decade's media campaign to help me overcome my "ignorance about Islam." I kind of know what's coming, as Canada and England are way ahead of us in aggro SJW promotion of Islam:

    - Articles about how burqas are empowering for women and how ignorant whitey needs to learn about the various types of burqas, niqabs, qubos, wa-qopqqos, etc.

    - Campaigns to make Eid a paid holiday on par with Christmas

    - Lawsuits about pork and face covering laws

    - Transparently propagandic articles about Muslim immigrants doing things other than terrorism and welfare fraud like it is an awesome remarkable thing, like the British Muslim woman who won a baking contest reality show and enjoyed several months of fawning MSM coverage for it.

    - Cartoons starting to all feature little "Syeds" and "Fatimas" who are prefect little children who react with a mature magnanimity to the crude racism of the white characters

    - Glowing articles by white converts to Islam and how their life is now so much better

    2. "News Analysis" In Danger in Afghanistan, Unable to Flee

    Propaganda for more immigration of violent low IQ people who hate Americans


    3. Opinion: America Needs a National Slavery Monument

    Slavery was abolished 150 years ago, but the hereditary guilt of whites shall never end.


    4. Nick Kristof: Hysteria about Refugees, but Blindness about Guns


    5. Editorial: The Unfair Treatment of Ebola Workers


    Instead of helping, quarantines actually made the fight against the virus more difficult.
     
    A few Ebola outbreaks in America that shut down entire cities and cause people to vomit blood until they die is a reasonable price to pay on top of the billions we already spend to keep Africa's population explosion humming along.


    6. Editorial: End the Gun Epidemic in America


    7. Op-Ed: Cognitive Therapy for the Country


    Article by "a professor of clinical psychiatry and the director of the psychopharmacology clinic" stating that people who support Trump have a mental illness.


    But that doesn’t mean that we should check our brain at the door once we’ve been traumatized and let ourselves be ruled by our emotions.

    Unfortunately, that is exactly what some of our presidential candidates have done in recent weeks. Donald J. Trump would deport all illegal immigrants, and Ben Carson would monitor mosques. Since a vast majority of immigrants and Muslims are neither terrorists nor criminals, these are laughably irrational proposals that would do nothing to diminish danger.
     

    8. Editorial: Tough Talk and a Cowardly Vote on Terrorism

    9. Editorial cartoon: A Gun Culture Christmas

    How about a gun-culture Ramadan cartoon? Oh wait, the last cartoonist who published something like that was gunned down in his office by a Muslim terrorist. And others who have made such cartoons have had other attempts on their lives in Texas and Denmark.

    10. Video Series: Race in America: Your Stories

    White people suck: personal reflections by a diverse group of people

    This isn't even all of it! Look for yourself:
    www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html

    What a great illustration of how the American left is evolving into a purely anti-white political movement, not one focused on protecting the economic interests of the working and middle classes.

    What a great illustration of how the American left is evolving into a purely anti-white political movement, not one focused on protecting the economic interests of the working and middle classes.

    A modern day Leftist has no choice but to defend the Coalition of the Fringes that they’ve assembled and the most satisfying way of doing that is to demonize those who are not on the Left. What this does though is it shrinks the margins on the pool of whites who lean left and accelerates white flight from the Democrats towards the Republicans, which in turn amps up the anti-white animus to an even higher level.

    All around the West we saw the same phenomenon play out – Leftist parties having to import 3rd worlders for their votes.

    The quest for power has led them down this path and they have to keep doubling down at every stage. They didn’t start out as rabidly anti-white, but as whites consistently defect away from the Left, the Left has to signal to the remaining whites that they’re better than the defectors, meanwhile they replace the departed whites with new 3rd worlders.

    • Replies: @Lot

    Leftist parties having to import 3rd worlders for their votes.
     
    That's their plan, but it tends to fail as the white reaction to increased third world populations usually more than off-sets the voters of the migrants who manage to become citizens and bother to vote.
  49. @Lot
    I had a comment a few weeks ago predicting exactly this happening.

    In short, it will be very subtle, with black admissions going down by maybe a percentage point, and only in a third of selective schools, not all of them. But that's how the black set asides are set: there is no big meeting, schools just pick a target demographic and will only change it very slowly over time. When they feel changes are needed to their targets, they change them just a tad, and keep going if and only if they see their peer schools joining them.

    The thing is, black students are already more costly than white students. They pay less tuition when they are there, hurt the school's SAT/GPA stats and employment after graduation numbers, and donate less later on. Schools are aware of the cost and willing to pay it as long as their competitors are doing the same. But having to do things like move murals, annoy alumni, set up special "diversity centers," hire a bunch of "culturally sensitive peer counselors" and so on make the cost of a "diverse student body" that much higher.

    When Princeton caves and moves its Wilson mural, it is going to cost some huge number like $350,000 to do it properly. The cost of changing Harvard Law's logo, in use for more than 100 years, will be in the millions in direct costs and turn off tens of millions in donations.

    I think that the real price for diversity isn’t the upfront cost, but the backend cost imposed by reducing donations.

    Every percent of increased diversity is a lost percent of potential big donors. This will be felt all around in a few years, as larger and larger swaths of the alumni fail to make it big, but it will especially be felt in those institutions which have been largely white male in the past, such as technical schools. It’s pretty obvious MIT will hit a major downfall in its donations — that will be the price to be paid for bringing in a half female class, combined with all manner of other kinds of “diversity”.

  50. @Anon
    Why is only 'hate speech' a problem?

    How about obscene speech, stupid speech, dumb speech, deceitful speech, retarded speech, obnoxious speech, infantile speech, paranoid speech, pompous speech, demented speech, arrogant speech, self-righteous speech, etc?

    “Why is only ‘hate speech’ a problem?

    How about obscene speech, stupid speech, dumb speech, deceitful speech, retarded speech, obnoxious speech, infantile speech, paranoid speech, pompous speech, demented speech, arrogant speech, self-righteous speech, etc?”

    According to the Left, Right Wingers have a monopoly on all of those types of speeches that you mentioned. Left Wingers are the epitome of perfection.

  51. iSteveFan says:

    This is somewhat similar to the media questioning whether Omar Thornton’s victims were racists who deserved to be shot. Though admittedly this goes beyond what they did to those poor souls.

    I wish Lawrence Auster were still alive and blogging. So much of what is happening is exactly what he used to write about. Here is his first law and corollary of majority-minority relations:

    The worse any designated minority or alien group behaves in a liberal society, the bigger become the lies of Political Correctess in covering up for that group.

    The more egregiously any non-Western or non-white group behaves, the more evil whites are made to appear for noticing and drawing rational conclusions about that group’s bad behavior.

    • Replies: @Hail

    I wish Lawrence Auster were still alive and blogging.
     
    Search for Auster's "Freedom From Islam Act" for a radical but peaceable solution to the Islam Problem (and achievable with minimal social disruption, given the will), more relevant to Europe than the USA. Nevermind, here it is.

    "American Freedom from Islam Act": https://t.co/TV8DnEutjB Main points: End Islamic inflow, encourage repatriation. pic.twitter.com/C7TBr9fhCR— Hail (@Hail__To_You) December 5, 2015
     

    The United States shall encourage the voluntary departure of Muslim naturalized citizens and their native-born descendants by offering all Muslim persons over the age of eighteen $50,000 each in a one-time fee to give up any claim of U.S. residency or citizenship, to return to their native land, and never to seek to return. The federal government will assure that departing Muslims will receive a fair market price for their real property, investments, and other property that they must sell prior to leaving the United States.
     
  52. Thalasinos was an … anti-government … kinda guy

    And that is because …

    He asked, “EVERY POLITICIAN IS A MORON?”

  53. The Stasi was run by more than 30 years by the half-jew Markus Wolf, when the Belin Wall falled he almost escapes to israel.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    Markus Wolf ran the Stasi's foreign intelligence division, not the entire organization.
  54. Thalasinos was an … anti-Islam … kinda guy

    I think he should get points off on account of the fact that he was, ultimately, in the end, killed by a Muslim.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    I think he should get points off on account of the fact that he was, ultimately, in the end, killed by a Muslim.
     
    An honest paper would've run the headline: RIGHT-WING VICTIM'S OPINIONS VALIDATED.
  55. @Lot
    The NY Times is also really cranking up the anti-white frontlash, though no single article is as vile as Stasi's equating a victim of mass murder with the murderer.

    Here's some of the articles they are promoting, just in the past couple days, just in their "opinion" page.

    1. Unsigned Editorial, Fear Ignorance, Not Muslims

    The problem isn't the Muslim tendency to commit mass murder, it is white people fearing being mass murdered.

    Wherever the investigation leads, Americans must guard against overreaction, and subdue the panicked reflex of distrust and hatred toward the Americans among us who are Muslims. This has been a problem at least since 9/11 and will remain one as long as ignorance about Islam remains deep and widespread.
     

    Apart from the terrorism, first cousin and uncle-niece incestuous marriages, polygamy and wife beating, the general air of anti-social belligerence Muslims display in public, protests and shrieking about racism, low-IQ/high-fertility welfare mooching, antisemitism, and general barbarism the Muslim immigration brings, I have to say I am very much not looking forward to the coming decade's media campaign to help me overcome my "ignorance about Islam." I kind of know what's coming, as Canada and England are way ahead of us in aggro SJW promotion of Islam:

    - Articles about how burqas are empowering for women and how ignorant whitey needs to learn about the various types of burqas, niqabs, qubos, wa-qopqqos, etc.

    - Campaigns to make Eid a paid holiday on par with Christmas

    - Lawsuits about pork and face covering laws

    - Transparently propagandic articles about Muslim immigrants doing things other than terrorism and welfare fraud like it is an awesome remarkable thing, like the British Muslim woman who won a baking contest reality show and enjoyed several months of fawning MSM coverage for it.

    - Cartoons starting to all feature little "Syeds" and "Fatimas" who are prefect little children who react with a mature magnanimity to the crude racism of the white characters

    - Glowing articles by white converts to Islam and how their life is now so much better

    2. "News Analysis" In Danger in Afghanistan, Unable to Flee

    Propaganda for more immigration of violent low IQ people who hate Americans


    3. Opinion: America Needs a National Slavery Monument

    Slavery was abolished 150 years ago, but the hereditary guilt of whites shall never end.


    4. Nick Kristof: Hysteria about Refugees, but Blindness about Guns


    5. Editorial: The Unfair Treatment of Ebola Workers


    Instead of helping, quarantines actually made the fight against the virus more difficult.
     
    A few Ebola outbreaks in America that shut down entire cities and cause people to vomit blood until they die is a reasonable price to pay on top of the billions we already spend to keep Africa's population explosion humming along.


    6. Editorial: End the Gun Epidemic in America


    7. Op-Ed: Cognitive Therapy for the Country


    Article by "a professor of clinical psychiatry and the director of the psychopharmacology clinic" stating that people who support Trump have a mental illness.


    But that doesn’t mean that we should check our brain at the door once we’ve been traumatized and let ourselves be ruled by our emotions.

    Unfortunately, that is exactly what some of our presidential candidates have done in recent weeks. Donald J. Trump would deport all illegal immigrants, and Ben Carson would monitor mosques. Since a vast majority of immigrants and Muslims are neither terrorists nor criminals, these are laughably irrational proposals that would do nothing to diminish danger.
     

    8. Editorial: Tough Talk and a Cowardly Vote on Terrorism

    9. Editorial cartoon: A Gun Culture Christmas

    How about a gun-culture Ramadan cartoon? Oh wait, the last cartoonist who published something like that was gunned down in his office by a Muslim terrorist. And others who have made such cartoons have had other attempts on their lives in Texas and Denmark.

    10. Video Series: Race in America: Your Stories

    White people suck: personal reflections by a diverse group of people

    This isn't even all of it! Look for yourself:
    www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html

    What a great illustration of how the American left is evolving into a purely anti-white political movement, not one focused on protecting the economic interests of the working and middle classes.

    Nick Kristof: Hysteria about Refugees, but Blindness about Guns

    You could easily swap words and come up with the title of a relevant article, “Hysteria about Guns, but Blindness about Refugees”.

  56. Ms. Stasi has said some anti-government words herself:

    This week’s vote to restrict entry of 10,000 Syrian refugees … proves that hatred … runs deepest among our elected officials whose own refugee families were saved by being allowed to enter the United States.

    Sen. Ted Cruz: You are a disgrace to … the United States of America.

    Sen. Marco Rubio: You too, have brought shame upon your … country

    Then there are the governors … who are also rushing headlong into inhumanity.

    delusional presidential candidate Rick Santorum

    the greatest … belongs to the 47 hypocritical Democrat representatives … who preach compassion but voted for inhumanity

  57. @Lot
    I had a comment a few weeks ago predicting exactly this happening.

    In short, it will be very subtle, with black admissions going down by maybe a percentage point, and only in a third of selective schools, not all of them. But that's how the black set asides are set: there is no big meeting, schools just pick a target demographic and will only change it very slowly over time. When they feel changes are needed to their targets, they change them just a tad, and keep going if and only if they see their peer schools joining them.

    The thing is, black students are already more costly than white students. They pay less tuition when they are there, hurt the school's SAT/GPA stats and employment after graduation numbers, and donate less later on. Schools are aware of the cost and willing to pay it as long as their competitors are doing the same. But having to do things like move murals, annoy alumni, set up special "diversity centers," hire a bunch of "culturally sensitive peer counselors" and so on make the cost of a "diverse student body" that much higher.

    When Princeton caves and moves its Wilson mural, it is going to cost some huge number like $350,000 to do it properly. The cost of changing Harvard Law's logo, in use for more than 100 years, will be in the millions in direct costs and turn off tens of millions in donations.

    Indeed. How often do people see video of Ivy League students in their element? Yet here we have some very public video of supposedly cream-of-the-crop black Ivy League students and it’s just not that impressive. I know there are lots of truly brilliant students at Princeton and Yale, but in my mind their reputation took a huge hit. Can’t imagine it hasn’t been damaged in the minds of lots of others, too.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrXaQu_qGeo
  58. Thalasinos was also a hate-filled bigot.

    anti-Islam

    posted screeds like, “You can stick your Muslim Million Man march up your asses,”

    Vs.

    Stasi: Evangelical nuts should practice what Jesus preached, not reach for their guns over Starbucks cups

    THIS GUY’S CHOCK FULL O’ NUTS

    Do ultraconservative evangelicals see a conspiracy behind every (non) Christmas tree?

    former … pastor-turned-Internet evangelical hysteric Joshua Feuerstein, whose nutbag rant outside a Starbucks has nearly broken the Internet

    • Replies: @NOTA
    Attention-seeking asshole meets attention-seeking asshole.
  59. It’s hard to believe that such piss-poor writing and irrational rhetoric is published in a major American newspaper. Also weird because The Daily News, while ostensibly Liberal, is traditionally “Liberal” in the way Middle Village, Queens is “Liberal”. Basically, the Daily News is for traditional conservative Democrats who are not the rabid Right Wingers who read the Post, but too Middle Brow for the New York Times. Basically, Democrats who supported Guiliani.

    This article in contrast is full-on HuffPo/ Gawker in tone. Perhaps, the Daily News has decided to “Lean In” like MSNBC did a few years back. We’ll see how that works out for them.

    The level of vitriol towards the victim who was a Messianic Jew on Twitter was rather shocking. John Podhoretz was particularly upset by Nicholas Thalasinos’ religious affiliation, but even John Podhoretz, who contributes a weekly “BOMB IRAN NOW” opinion column for the Daily News, was disgusted by Stasi’s article. Hopefully, other sensible voices push back in this direction.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    What is "Messianic Jew" anyway?
    , @Evocatus
    "This article in contrast is full-on HuffPo/ Gawker in tone. Perhaps, the Daily News has decided to “Lean In” like MSNBC did a few years back. We’ll see how that works out for them."

    Don't forget they've hired fake black man Shaun King as a "justice correspondent" and regularly publish columns from Al Sharpton. The Daily News has been looking for a buyer with deep pockets for some time now. My guess is that they are trying to attract a SJW type billionaire like the gay Facebook guy who bought the New Republic.
    , @Forbes
    Podhoretz's columns appear in the NYPost.
  60. @Jefferson
    Many bourgeois people in the Greater Los Angeles metropolitan area refer to San Bernardino as a ghetto trash city. It is not as bad as Compton, but it is still an undesirable city full of Mexican gangs and meth houses. San Bernardino makes Rancho Cucamonga look like Beverly Hills and Newport Beach in comparison.

    San Bernardino: Broken City

    Demographics of San Bernardino — from 2/3 white in 1970 to less than 20% today. Of course that’s just a coincidence.

  61. rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy

    It’s no longer good enough to merely not want abortion to be banned. You need to support state funding of PP and free abortion.

    • Replies: @Samfranfan

    ...You need to support state funding of PP and free abortion.
     
    What percentage of babies aborted by PP are white? Free birth control and first trimester abortion is not all bad. It's the unborn white babies that I care about.
  62. Jesus, Steve. Has your goal these past few days been to make me understand why feminists request “trigger warnings” all the time?

    Because as much as I hate to admit it, I get it now.

    Maybe the right should start calling them “rustle warnings”, so that we can get our jimmies prepared.

  63. Assuming it’s not, have you ever noticed how often people who accuse other folks of being full of hate are really haters themselves?

    There’s nothing new under the sun, this being other wise known as Potiphar’s wife complex (Gen. 39:12-15).
    Or projection, if you prefer the freudian substitute.
    The communists had the smear down to a science: Always accuse your opponent of what you yourself are guilty of, loudly and at length.

    Similar/related to the Himmler’s Big Lie [Black Lies Matter]
    or the Red Herring/Bait and Switch(?) [ImmigrationGun Control]

  64. They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

    That quote is from the article. Look at it carefully. There were 14 killed in this terrorist attack. Linda Gestapo notes that only 13 innocent people lost their lives.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    Just how many hate-filled, bigoted individuals does the CA government employ?
    , @G Pinfold
    She's also erased Ms jihad. What does a girl need to do to be taken seriously?
    , @Hail

    They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

    That quote is from the article. Look at it carefully. There were 14 killed in this terrorist attack. Linda Gestapo notes that only 13 innocent people lost their lives.
     
    It could be that she got her facts wrong and presumed the fourteen figure included Farook the jihadi Health Department employee. The total dead were actually 16 -- fourteen killed at the party and the two Muslim assailants later killed by police.
    , @AnAnon
    That looks like a lawsuit against the NYDN, given the obvious implications.
  65. The demented Ms Stasi may have provided a service, inadvertently. We are told frequently that the motive remains a mystery. Well now we have it. Thalasinos had to go. His bigotry could not stand.
    It was a workplace dispute; a failure to communicate, so to speak. The Muslim’s just wanted a Sharia-friendly vibe, and here comes this hostile presence, with views antithetical to jihad. And not just that, but he’s popular and well-liked, and mentally stable and non-murderous. Well, you can understand that this was a powder keg.

  66. Nick Kristof lays it on pretty thick in this Syrian Refugee Opinion piece. Israel, you see, is doing its part to move Muslim refugees into the West, why don’t you do the same? Love the dig against European volunteers. I actually can’t believe this is real.

    Someone needs to tell all those American WWII vets who liberated the concentration camps that they were complicit in Anne Frank’s murder.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/opinion/sunday/hysteria-about-refugees-but-blindness-on-guns.html

    Here in Lesbos, the fears seem way overdrawn. Some of the first aid workers Syrian refugees meet when they land on the beach are Israeli doctors, working for an Israeli medical organization called IsraAID. The refugees say they are surprised, but also kind of delighted.

    “We were happy to see them,” said Tamara, a 20-year-old Syrian woman in jeans with makeup and uncovered hair. The presence of Jews, Muslims and Christians side by side fit with the tolerance and moderation that she craved.

    Iris Adler, an Israeli doctor volunteering with IsraAID, said the refugees were often excited to receive assistance from Israelis. “We are still in close touch with many of them,” she said, including a mother whose baby she delivered on the beach after landing. Hostility to Israeli aid workers, she said, came not from refugees but, rather, from some European volunteers.

    Historically, we Americans have repeatedly misperceived outsiders as threats. In 1938 and again in 1941, one desperate Jewish family in Europe tried to gain refugee status in the United States but failed, along with countless thousands of others. That was Anne Frank’s family.

    So while it was the Nazis who murdered Anne, we Americans were in some sense complicit.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    Maybe the Vatican could set up some doctors on the borders of Israel to facilitate the entry of migrant Muslems into Israel
  67. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @TangoMan
    They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

    That quote is from the article. Look at it carefully. There were 14 killed in this terrorist attack. Linda Gestapo notes that only 13 innocent people lost their lives.

    Just how many hate-filled, bigoted individuals does the CA government employ?

  68. Linda Stasi has written a novel called The Sixth Station about a journalist named Alessandra Russo. Because Alessandra is publicly kissed by a notorious Moslem terrorist, she is falsely accused of murder. Therefore, she investigates the history of the Roman Catholic.

    One review summarizes this plot development as follows:

    On the run from unknown enemies, Alessandra finds herself on the trail of a global conspiracy and a story that could shake the world to its foundations. Is [Moslem terrorist] Demiel ben Yusef the Second Coming or the Antichrist? The truth may lie in the secret history of the Holy Family, a group of Templars who defied the church, and a mysterious relic stained with the sacred blood of Christ Himself ….

    Here is an excerpt of an interview of Stasi about her novel:

    Q: So is there really a relic that exists in a monastery deep in the mountains of Italy that may contain the DNA of Jesus?

    A: I believe that it does. It’s called il Volto Santo and is the true Veil of Veronica, which is celebrated as part of the Stations of the Cross in almost every Catholic Church in the world.

    The thing I discovered is, however, that there never was a saint — or a woman– named Veronica. That is a story made up by the Church. ….

    Q: The main character in The Sixth Station is a Manhattan-based reporter who works for a large metropolitan newspaper. I know the story is fictitious, but how much of the story is based on your experience working as a reporter?

    A: You can’t write honestly about a newsroom or a reporter without having been one. That’s why so many TV shows and movies get it wrong. A tabloid newsroom is a rough and tumble place. Not a place for sissies. ….

    Q: What do you say to cynics or to those whose feathers may have been ruffled with the controversial subject matter you tackle in The Sixth Station?

    A: For one thing I prove that Saint Veronica, who is celebrated in The Sixth Station of the Cross, and for whom the fourth and most important pillar of the entire Vatican is dedicated, is a total fiction story. She never existed — but the story was made up because the Church wouldn’t have allowed the most important relic in all of Christendom to be placed in the hands of a woman they denigrated –Mary Magdalen.

    Did I mean to upend a 2,000 year old belief? No.

    As a reporter, did I have a choice? No — not once I found out the truth, I didn’t.

    http://us.macmillan.com/thesixthstation/lindastasi

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jill-rachel-jacobs/six-questions-for-linda-s_b_2526164.html

    • Replies: @anon
    Because Alessandra is publicly kissed by a notorious Moslem terrorist, she is falsely accused of murder. Therefore, she investigates the history of the Roman Catholic.

    Oh, well yeah. I mean, what else would you do?
    , @anowow
    The way to deal with that DaVinci code b.s. is to blow a lefty or bien pensant centrist's mind and go Dutch Radical and tell them that Jesus is probably simply a historicized version of a Levantine fertility god, ergo Mary Magdalene and many other characters in the Gospel are as historical as Noah.
  69. @TangoMan
    They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

    That quote is from the article. Look at it carefully. There were 14 killed in this terrorist attack. Linda Gestapo notes that only 13 innocent people lost their lives.

    She’s also erased Ms jihad. What does a girl need to do to be taken seriously?

  70. @Wilkey
    I think we're really at the point where the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.

    the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.

    Except that it still controls the vast, decentralized apparatus for socializing the young. New recruits. It works on most.

    One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of “Dr. King”? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas, but in the end the cult won out by the early or mid 1990s even in the “reddest” areas…something like that. Thus most of those under 40 today, and all of those under 30, were subject to this indoctrination from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man, even most self-described “strong conservatives”.

    • Replies: @wren
    It is funny to watch the poor teachers apotheosize MLK on one hand and then villify anyone who plagiarizes anything on the other.

    In their defense I suppose, this aspect of the man is down the memory hole though.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early '80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.
    , @ATX Hipster
    A good chunk of English class every year I was in high school was devoted to black and feminist literature. A book I read in 10th grade put forward as plausible the idea that Jesus may have been black.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of “Dr. King”? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas,"

    I attended high school in California in the late 70s / early 80s. We didn't get a big dose of MLK propaganda. I'm sure he was mentioned, but not so much that I can rememer any specific example. Very few of my teachers in HS were SJWs, and on the whole I think they were pretty knowledgeable about what they taught, and were good conscientious teachers.

    It's probably vastly different now. I'm sure that my old school is, today, thoroughly bathed in every liberal SJW narrative there is.
    , @Daniel Williams

    Thus most of those under 40 ... were subject to this indoctrination [about MLK] from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man ...
     
    Entirely correct. I remember hearing for the first time about his plagiarism charges and being scandalized—I'm mid-thirties—and uncomfortable with the person who told me. (Actual blasphemy, on the other hand, tellingly elicited no response.)

    Learning the truth about that guy is powerful. Same thing with Mandela.
  71. @rod1963
    Very much so.

    This isn't anything new either, the Lefty blogs during the Bush years was full of such vile c**p. Heck after 7/11 London and Madrid bombings the Lefties here were ecstatic and jumping for joy. See their logic or what passes for it is nearly identical to a rapist's line of thinking that boils down "she had it coming because she dressed provocatively".

    You ever wonder where Stalin and the Nazis got their willing executioners? It is among people like Stasi. They already objectified people(the way psychopaths do) and since they don't believe in rights for anyone but their kind, pulling the trigger is easy.

    “You ever wonder where Stalin and the Nazis got their willing executioners? It is among people like Stasi. They already objectified people(the way psychopaths do) and since they don’t believe in rights for anyone but their kind, pulling the trigger is easy.”

    Linda “Stasi” – truth really is stranger than fiction.
    You make a point that I’ve tried to get across to conservative family and friends for years.
    Namely, that when it comes to liberals, typical conservatives don’t truly understand with whom they’re dealing with.

    In a different time and a different place, a lot of liberals would be torturing conservatives in the Lubyanka and enjoying it.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    "Linda Stasi."

    A name Tom Wolfe couldn't make up.
    , @Bill B.
    The historian Simon Epstein made almost exactly this point in his book The French Paradox a few years ago.

    The loudest antiracists in the 1920s and 1930s in France, including several who had sworn undying love for equality and justice for all, astonishingly became enthusiastic members of the proto-fascist Vichy government and many happily lauded Hitler's "vision".

    Many others, including such as Sartre and Camus, actually did very litttle to resist the Germans in practice but spent the post-war years lecturing the world on how to fight oppression.

    In fact - against progressiive myth - conservative and royalist figures formed the backbone of the resistants aligned with De Gaulle etc.

    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_paradoxe_français

    https://maximetandonnet.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/resume-livre-le-paradoxe-francais/
  72. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @The Z Blog
    This is part of a well orchestrated White House campaign to make owning a gun the same as owning a black guy. The new "N" word is NRA. Every liberal pol is running ads talking about how "they stood up to the NRA" which means nothing in the physical world, but in the dreamscape of Progressive politics it means everything.

    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles. Then the left side makes clear that you are disqualified from polite company if you are on the wrong side of history and the right side surrenders.

    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles.

    I don’t know. The NRA actually seems to have been pretty on the ball with this one. They’ve always been the one group that has fought and won.

    Part of the reason is because all of the anti-gun people in the media own guns themselves. All of them. And they’re not about to give them up.

    One of the best examples I’ve seen was when Ben Affleck was on Bill Maher’s show, talking about gun control, and Maher just assumed that Affleck owned guns, and he admitted that he did. You could hear a sort of collective gasp from the audience.

    That’s why it won’t really work this time to just expel people from polite society.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Anti-gun Sam Donaldson admitted he owns a handgun, and anti-gun columnist Carl Rowan was discovered to have owned a pistol when he shot someone with it, but pro-gun Pat Buchanan claims he doesn't own one.
  73. @TangoMan
    They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

    That quote is from the article. Look at it carefully. There were 14 killed in this terrorist attack. Linda Gestapo notes that only 13 innocent people lost their lives.

    They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

    That quote is from the article. Look at it carefully. There were 14 killed in this terrorist attack. Linda Gestapo notes that only 13 innocent people lost their lives.

    It could be that she got her facts wrong and presumed the fourteen figure included Farook the jihadi Health Department employee. The total dead were actually 16 — fourteen killed at the party and the two Muslim assailants later killed by police.

  74. @iSteveFan
    This is somewhat similar to the media questioning whether Omar Thornton's victims were racists who deserved to be shot. Though admittedly this goes beyond what they did to those poor souls.

    I wish Lawrence Auster were still alive and blogging. So much of what is happening is exactly what he used to write about. Here is his first law and corollary of majority-minority relations:

    The worse any designated minority or alien group behaves in a liberal society, the bigger become the lies of Political Correctess in covering up for that group.

    The more egregiously any non-Western or non-white group behaves, the more evil whites are made to appear for noticing and drawing rational conclusions about that group’s bad behavior.
     

    I wish Lawrence Auster were still alive and blogging.

    Search for Auster’s “Freedom From Islam Act” for a radical but peaceable solution to the Islam Problem (and achievable with minimal social disruption, given the will), more relevant to Europe than the USA. Nevermind, here it is.

    "American Freedom from Islam Act": https://t.co/TV8DnEutjB Main points: End Islamic inflow, encourage repatriation. pic.twitter.com/C7TBr9fhCR— Hail (__To_You) December 5, 2015

    The United States shall encourage the voluntary departure of Muslim naturalized citizens and their native-born descendants by offering all Muslim persons over the age of eighteen $50,000 each in a one-time fee to give up any claim of U.S. residency or citizenship, to return to their native land, and never to seek to return. The federal government will assure that departing Muslims will receive a fair market price for their real property, investments, and other property that they must sell prior to leaving the United States.

  75. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know anybody who reads this kind of garbage non-ironically, but don’t at least SOME of the people reading it have to be thinking that events proved that Nicholas Thalasinos was right?

    I mean, you spend all your time ranting about how violent Muslims are, and then a couple of them kill you. That’s so perfect, it could have been in that Alanis Morrisette song “Ironic”.

  76. @Jefferson
    Many bourgeois people in the Greater Los Angeles metropolitan area refer to San Bernardino as a ghetto trash city. It is not as bad as Compton, but it is still an undesirable city full of Mexican gangs and meth houses. San Bernardino makes Rancho Cucamonga look like Beverly Hills and Newport Beach in comparison.

    refer to San Bernardino as a ghetto trash city.

    San Bernardino City, 215,000 people. (Wiki).
    1940: 90%+ seems likely (98% “White”; Hispanic Origin not asked.)
    1970: 66% White Non-Hispanic
    1990: 46% White Non-Hispanic
    2010: 19% White Non-Hispanic

    San Bernardino County, 2.1 million. (Census Bureau).
    2015: 30% White Non-Hispanic

  77. @Hail

    the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.
     
    Except that it still controls the vast, decentralized apparatus for socializing the young. New recruits. It works on most.

    One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of "Dr. King"? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas, but in the end the cult won out by the early or mid 1990s even in the "reddest" areas...something like that. Thus most of those under 40 today, and all of those under 30, were subject to this indoctrination from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man, even most self-described "strong conservatives".

    It is funny to watch the poor teachers apotheosize MLK on one hand and then villify anyone who plagiarizes anything on the other.

    In their defense I suppose, this aspect of the man is down the memory hole though.

  78. @Hail

    the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.
     
    Except that it still controls the vast, decentralized apparatus for socializing the young. New recruits. It works on most.

    One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of "Dr. King"? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas, but in the end the cult won out by the early or mid 1990s even in the "reddest" areas...something like that. Thus most of those under 40 today, and all of those under 30, were subject to this indoctrination from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man, even most self-described "strong conservatives".

    In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early ’80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early ’80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks."

    A lot of K-12 teachers in the early 1980s were Social Justice Warriors in 1968, the year MLK was assassinated.
    , @Tom-in-VA
    Man, that's like playing Herod in the Christmas play. You must've been really popular.
    , @Samfranfan

    In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early ’80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.
     
    In my deep south high school of the late 1970s, I played on the basketball team with 10 blacks. Once during an away game at an all black school, each time I went to the free throw line the crowd chanted "two, four, six, eight, nine, get that honkey off the line!" True story.
  79. We know from Journolist, other scandals, that the Democratic Party and its priestly caste, kudos to Buchanon for pointing that out, co-ordinate like Dan Rather. [That’s a joke, son.]

    Obama is going to give a national speech tomorrow right at the Sunday Night Football kickoff. My guess is that Obama will:

    A. Blame Muslim terrorism on evil YT, and the evil YT racism rays from being evil YT.
    B. Tell Americans not to celebrate Christmas at least in public, as that oppresses Muslims, and do other surrender based things that Marshall Petain would have balked at.
    C. Issue an executive order seizing all private firearms and nationalizing the police to do it.

    Obama has no intention of ever leaving office. What, give up all that money-making opportunity to Hillary! He hates her more than Trump. And Trump would probably jail him.

    Look at what happened to Rahm Emmanuel. He’s already being pressed to resign, and it looks like that campaign will really swing and Chicago burn when the weather turns nicer in the Spring. I don’t see any dash for cash, run for the exits, from people in the Obama Administration. Not like the late Bush, Clinton, and Bush 1 administrations when people were leaving in droves to private lobbying positions. That’s the dog not barking.

    Is Obama really that different from say, Marion Barry, or Jessie Jackson, or the shrieking Black coeds at Ivy League universities? Not really. If you’re trying to predict what Obama will do, ask yourself what Marion Barry would do off the crack. Then you have your answer.

    I certainly hope I’m wrong. But disarming the average American so that thugs of sufficient vibrancy can do as they will is the number one goal of both Blacks and liberal Whites.

    Slaves don’t own weapons. Only free men do and both Blacks and liberal Whites want us as slaves.

    As a practical matter, it would be better for everyone who could get a concealed carry licence to carry at all places including government offices etc. ISIS and ISIS inspired Muslims are attacking soft targets, places like the San Bernadino center, places too numerous and spread out to defend with police. There are not enough police to cover every movie theater, mall, government building, office park, and parade.

    Israelis have lived with this for years and their solution was to arm their populace as much as possible. Weapons ownership and proficiency can focus the mind. They are by their nature dangerous and like riding a motorcycle demand utter concentration and discipline. They demand adult control and focus.

    As for SB, it has long been known as “the 909” and KROQ’s Kevin and Bean had this Greenbrier song on their 2005 Christmas CD:

    Will that change long term? Most of SoCal looks down on the Inland Empire as White Trash, i.e. those not born rich or who didn’t get rich quick.

  80. @The Z Blog
    This is part of a well orchestrated White House campaign to make owning a gun the same as owning a black guy. The new "N" word is NRA. Every liberal pol is running ads talking about how "they stood up to the NRA" which means nothing in the physical world, but in the dreamscape of Progressive politics it means everything.

    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles. Then the left side makes clear that you are disqualified from polite company if you are on the wrong side of history and the right side surrenders.

    The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency–it’s one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades–at least since the 60’s, and explicitly since the Clinton 90’s, when they made it a goal to “de-normalize” gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it’s a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn’t work. As a result they’re a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Part of their frustration comes from the San Bernardino terrorists being so unhelpful - so soon after Obama mocked Republicans for being afraid of Muslim women immigrants, a Muslim woman immigrant gives everyone a reason to be afraid of them.
    , @Maj. Kong
    Guns appear to be far more accepted by R leaning women than 10, 20 years ago. The tendency of
    "Fudds", or hunters supporting bans on evil looking guns, is also diminished. I credit the expansion of concealed carry, and the popularity of video game first person shooters, for this trend.

    It's not hard to remember that in the 90s, it wasn't just guns that were targeted, we had serious pushes in Congress for a crackdown on media violence towards the youth market. The V-Chip, Tipper Gore, Jack Thompson.

    When the NRA head blamed video games for the Newtown shooting, he showed his age, it was a 90s defense that no longer makes sense in the era of microaggressions.

    I'd also credit the increase in gun safe marketing, when I was younger I recall parents receiving pamphlets in school/doctors office saying to ask other parents about "guns in the home" before your kid visited. Think of how the abortion views were affected by the spread of ultrasound technology.

    For gun rights in this country, its a philosophical "fatal ground" in the vein of Sun Tzu. Their supporters will lobby intensely because they subconsciously fear genocide if it passes at the federal level. In other English speaking countries, mass distrust of the state is not ingrained in the people. In the US, mining labor disputes were often violently crushed, in the UK and Australia, they led to Labour party governments. Their fatal ground isn't guns, its the welfare state. Labour fear mongers about "NHS privatization" more than any elected Republican on guns.
    , @Jefferson
    "The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency–it’s one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades–at least since the 60′s, and explicitly since the Clinton 90′s, when they made it a goal to “de-normalize” gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it’s a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn’t work. As a result they’re a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill."

    Liberals hate the fact that in the eyes of most Americans, pro-second amendment lobby groups like The NRA are not considered a fringe group like ISIS and NAMBLA for example. They hate the fact that being pro-second amendment is considered such a mainstream political view for large swaths of the American people.
    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    I always argued that it wasn't Florida that lost Gore the 2000 election; it was West Virginia. That state had gone blue every election except Reagan in '84 up to that point. Win that state, and Gore oesn't need Florida. It was primarily Gore's anti-gun stance which cost him West Virginia.
  81. The hateful Pam Geller replied today to Ms Lynch’s statement that hateful talk will no longer be tolerated in the US.

    It gave me chuckle, anyway.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/05/pamela-geller-loretta-lynch-wants-ban-violent-talk-ban-quran/

  82. @Boomstick
    The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency--it's one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades--at least since the 60's, and explicitly since the Clinton 90's, when they made it a goal to "de-normalize" gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it's a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn't work. As a result they're a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill.

    Part of their frustration comes from the San Bernardino terrorists being so unhelpful – so soon after Obama mocked Republicans for being afraid of Muslim women immigrants, a Muslim woman immigrant gives everyone a reason to be afraid of them.

  83. Seems like exhibit A on the dangers of getting so obsessed with rooting out the crimethink in people’s hearts that you completely overlook their actual deeds. And eventually end up embarrassing yourself by morally equating a couple who murdered 14 people with someone who posted not-nice stuff on Facebook!

    It reads like an over-the-top parody of the bad-words-equals-violence crowd.

  84. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @countenance
    OT

    Sailer Echo Syndrome:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/05/70-black-campus-groups-plan-protests-demand-free-tuition-black-students/

    It all boils down to gibsmedat and dindunuffins.

    Free tuition for blacks students isn’t going anything. If the blacks are getting in free because of the color of their skin, some smart white student will show up with a lawyer and say, “Charging me full tuition because of the color of my skin is discrimination. I want 10 million. Pay up.”

    There are a lot of white students facing a ton of debt. They’ll be really, really angry if blacks pay no tuition while they themselves have to shoulder the entire burden. Trust me, this is an explosive legal issue. White students will be in an uproar once they think the matter through and smarten up. What’s the best way to to through college, after all? Pile on debt, or win enough money out of your school in a settlement so big that you’ll never have to work again? Obviously, you hire a lawyer and win the lottery.

    Colleges will have to dig deeply into their endowments to pay for both blacks who want free tuition as well as pay damages to the huge numbers of white students who will be suing the crap out of them. Those schools will go bust. No way will any college open this can of worms.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Colleges will have to dig deeply into their endowments to pay for both blacks who want free tuition as well as pay damages to the huge numbers of white students who will be suing the crap out of them. Those schools will go bust. No way will any college open this can of worms.
     
    I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have been doing something close to this for decades.
  85. @Dave Pinsen
    In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early '80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.

    “In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early ’80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.”

    A lot of K-12 teachers in the early 1980s were Social Justice Warriors in 1968, the year MLK was assassinated.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The high school in that town had portraits of African kings on the wall, including a pharaoh depicted as a black man with Jeri Curls.
  86. @Boomstick
    The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency--it's one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades--at least since the 60's, and explicitly since the Clinton 90's, when they made it a goal to "de-normalize" gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it's a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn't work. As a result they're a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill.

    Guns appear to be far more accepted by R leaning women than 10, 20 years ago. The tendency of
    “Fudds”, or hunters supporting bans on evil looking guns, is also diminished. I credit the expansion of concealed carry, and the popularity of video game first person shooters, for this trend.

    It’s not hard to remember that in the 90s, it wasn’t just guns that were targeted, we had serious pushes in Congress for a crackdown on media violence towards the youth market. The V-Chip, Tipper Gore, Jack Thompson.

    When the NRA head blamed video games for the Newtown shooting, he showed his age, it was a 90s defense that no longer makes sense in the era of microaggressions.

    I’d also credit the increase in gun safe marketing, when I was younger I recall parents receiving pamphlets in school/doctors office saying to ask other parents about “guns in the home” before your kid visited. Think of how the abortion views were affected by the spread of ultrasound technology.

    For gun rights in this country, its a philosophical “fatal ground” in the vein of Sun Tzu. Their supporters will lobby intensely because they subconsciously fear genocide if it passes at the federal level. In other English speaking countries, mass distrust of the state is not ingrained in the people. In the US, mining labor disputes were often violently crushed, in the UK and Australia, they led to Labour party governments. Their fatal ground isn’t guns, its the welfare state. Labour fear mongers about “NHS privatization” more than any elected Republican on guns.

  87. @Niccolò Arminius
    A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe. No wonder she's happy he's dead.

    Stasi, as a name? That's some truth in advertising.

    A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe.

    “Messianic Jews” are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate).

    Which is neither here nor there, though. Thalasinos sounds like he was a good guy. Maybe an iSteve reader.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Messianic Jews are Jewish apostates. Well, not really "apostates" since there is no Pope of the Jews to decide "who's a Jew". But since his mother is/was a Jew, the dead guy is a Jew (albeit misguided) for at least 90% of Jews on Earth.

    In other news, another bunch of Torah-true, Shabbos-obedient,"Messianic" Jews (Chabad/Lubavitchers) have started a new ad campaign to get Palestinians to follow the seven Noachide Laws (the Jewish laws for Gentiles) and to recognize deceased Rabbi Schneerson as the Messiah.

    See http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2015/12/chabad-launches-special-mitzvah-campaign-for-palestinians-promoting-7-laws-of-noah-dead-rebbe-as-mes-678.html
    , @NOTA
    Obviously, it doesn't matter how nice a guy he was. You dont get to kill someone because they're a jerk. Stasi's line of argument is equivalent to the one where someone justifies raping some girl because she was wearing a short miniskirt and had a reputation for putting out.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "“Messianic Jews” are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate)."

    Apparently a lot of them are Jews in the ethnic sense, which is the only sense that Jews care about. I don't know if this poor guy was, but it's certainly possible.
    , @Niccolò Arminius
    The ones I've met were/are all ethnic Jews on one side or the other, mostly maternal or both.
  88. With Lindsey Graham still polling at zero percent less than 2 months before the Republican primaries begin, he has finally snapped with anger knowing that he does not have a snowball’s chance in hell of ever winning the Republican nomination. This week he was taking shots at his own Party’s voting base for being too Right Wing on immigration and abortion as well as admit to being bitter about the fact that Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are way ahead of him in the polls. Lindsey Graham does not even pretend to be a Conservative anymore, he is revealing his true colors just like Karl Rove has done recently. RINO’s from the Dubya Bush “Compassionate Conservatives For More 3rd World Immigration And More Tax Cuts For Billionaires” era like Karl Rove and Lindsey Graham are being put out to pasture. Their time is up, there time is no longer now. They are too Left Wing for this new brand of Republican voters who are mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore. Those two clowns are better of jumping ship to The Democratic Party.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    And South Carolina's "conservative" voters reelect Graham every time.
    , @jill
    Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Marco Rubio voted to continue to allow large-scale Muslim immigration
    "The amendment, offered Sen. Rand Paul, would have suspended visa issuances to more than 30 Muslim countries with active Jihadist populations."

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/12/04/sens-rubio-graham-vote-continue-muslim-immigration-countries-jihadist-movements/
  89. @Clifford Brown
    It's hard to believe that such piss-poor writing and irrational rhetoric is published in a major American newspaper. Also weird because The Daily News, while ostensibly Liberal, is traditionally "Liberal" in the way Middle Village, Queens is "Liberal". Basically, the Daily News is for traditional conservative Democrats who are not the rabid Right Wingers who read the Post, but too Middle Brow for the New York Times. Basically, Democrats who supported Guiliani.

    This article in contrast is full-on HuffPo/ Gawker in tone. Perhaps, the Daily News has decided to "Lean In" like MSNBC did a few years back. We'll see how that works out for them.

    The level of vitriol towards the victim who was a Messianic Jew on Twitter was rather shocking. John Podhoretz was particularly upset by Nicholas Thalasinos' religious affiliation, but even John Podhoretz, who contributes a weekly "BOMB IRAN NOW" opinion column for the Daily News, was disgusted by Stasi's article. Hopefully, other sensible voices push back in this direction.

    What is “Messianic Jew” anyway?

    • Replies: @Lot
    A Jew who converts to evangelical Christianity but keeps a few random Jewish cultural customs, most often seen down south.

    Evangelicals love this and treat them like rock stars. I think we are worth five normal converts.

    Jews for Jesus is a specific group that tends to annoy practicing Jews with aggressive in person marketing.
    , @Josh
    Jews for Jesus. I'm surprised you don't know about them. Organized Jewry is *not* sympathetic.
    , @Big Bill
    I agree with what Lot says. But the "random customs" are not a triviality, but the core of the problem. Messianic Jews are a major psychic threat to your typical, 90% assimilated Western Jew precisely because of those "random customs".

    Most Jews, like most Western Christians, are not particularly devout. Their Judaism rests in familiar songs, familiar food, familiar rituals, familiar liturgy, and familiar dress: the lighting of candles, the dreidel, the kippah, the tallit, the Hebrew prayers, attending services a couple times a year.

    Imagine you could keep all those things, (along with the belief that you are still "chosen" by God and therefore special) but align yourself a bit closer to the dominant Christian culture by professing to believe Jesus was the Messiah.

    The incredible seductiveness is that everything would "feel" pretty much the same. Heck, if your kids became "Messianic" you might not even know when they came home for Passover. The prayers, the kippah, the dreidel, the food, the songs, everything would be the same.

    But what about THEIR kids? Given the dominating position of Christian culture in the West, it is a tiny, almost imperceptible next step to marrying a Christian, or attending a generic Christian church. And then they are gone forever.

    I know Buddhist Jews, agnostic Jews, even atheist Jews. None of them freak out their parents or fellow Jews. Think about it. How strange that a Jew who denies the very existence of God Almighty in ANY form whatsoever is much less of a threat to your typical half-assimilated Jew than a Jew who believes Jesus is the Messiah. Why? Because the atheist Jew will still partake in ritual Jewish life and will marry a Jew. He may be a "draft dodger" (so to speak) but at least he has not "gone over to the enemy's camp".

    Heck, most Jews aren't even bothered by the Lubavitcher Jews who say Rabbi Schneerson is the Messiah. Why? The chance that a liberal Jewish kid would go "full Lubavitch" are pretty damn slim (and even if they did, they would still breed race pure). In contrast to Lubavitch Messianists, however, being dissolved into generic, thoughtless, workaday Christianity is incredibly easy, given that their kids are surrounded by Christians and share their values, culture and decadence.

    Think of Messianic Jews as a "gateway drug" for half-assimilated Jews (aka "neo-Christians" as Rabbi Tendler calls them) and you can understand their tremendous anxiety and fear.

    See e.g. http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/27/local/me-36790
    , @ivvenalis
    Basically, a Christian who also follows Jewish law. There are two flavors: Jewish converts to Christianity who don't want to abandon their traditions ("Jews for Jesus", which goes over with regular Jews about two rungs below the Third Reich) and Evangelical Christians who choose for whatever reason to follow Jewish law, usually on a very autodidactic basis.
  90. A “Messianic Jew” (or “Jew for Jesus”, as we always used to call them in Manchester) is a believer in Jesus as the Messiah, who also follows Jewish customs and laws, to a greater or lesser extent. Most of them also believe in Jesus’ divinity. They’re Christians.

    That said: targeted by an Islamic terrorist for his beliefs (probably), attacked by the gutter press after his death for not being a good enough victim – if there was ever a Messianic Jew that merited honorary membership in the Tribe, it’s the poor deceased.

    • Replies: @shk12344
    Messianic Jews regard themselves as Jews, not Christians.
  91. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Basically, what the NYT is saying, when you cut through all the extraneous bullshit, is that, in the USA, at least, where the NYT has a modicum of power and influence, individuals ‘deserve’ to die – in this case being summarily gunned down on the spot with no hint of hearing, trial or ceremony, for the crime of having thoughts and opinions the NYT doesn’t agree with.

    So, the NYT shows us its true colors – and puts itself in the distinguished company of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Somoza, Idi Amin, Galtieri etc.

    Not even in Orwell with his dystopian fantasies could have described the sheer cruelty and intolerance of the NYT – In terms of brutality Genghis Khan is the role model.

    • Replies: @Thea
    They were grave dancing sat the news of 500,000 dead working class whites a couple of weeks ago and no one big called them out (paging Trump.)

    Will there be a charity drive to help these suffering folks? Or just more encouragement for them to continue offing themselves?

    What if they end up adopting the Muslim way of suicide?
  92. @Boomstick
    The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency--it's one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades--at least since the 60's, and explicitly since the Clinton 90's, when they made it a goal to "de-normalize" gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it's a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn't work. As a result they're a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill.

    “The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency–it’s one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades–at least since the 60′s, and explicitly since the Clinton 90′s, when they made it a goal to “de-normalize” gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it’s a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn’t work. As a result they’re a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill.”

    Liberals hate the fact that in the eyes of most Americans, pro-second amendment lobby groups like The NRA are not considered a fringe group like ISIS and NAMBLA for example. They hate the fact that being pro-second amendment is considered such a mainstream political view for large swaths of the American people.

  93. @Mike Sylwester
    Linda Stasi has written a novel called The Sixth Station about a journalist named Alessandra Russo. Because Alessandra is publicly kissed by a notorious Moslem terrorist, she is falsely accused of murder. Therefore, she investigates the history of the Roman Catholic.

    One review summarizes this plot development as follows:


    On the run from unknown enemies, Alessandra finds herself on the trail of a global conspiracy and a story that could shake the world to its foundations. Is [Moslem terrorist] Demiel ben Yusef the Second Coming or the Antichrist? The truth may lie in the secret history of the Holy Family, a group of Templars who defied the church, and a mysterious relic stained with the sacred blood of Christ Himself ....
     
    Here is an excerpt of an interview of Stasi about her novel:

    Q: So is there really a relic that exists in a monastery deep in the mountains of Italy that may contain the DNA of Jesus?

    A: I believe that it does. It's called il Volto Santo and is the true Veil of Veronica, which is celebrated as part of the Stations of the Cross in almost every Catholic Church in the world.

    The thing I discovered is, however, that there never was a saint -- or a woman-- named Veronica. That is a story made up by the Church. ....

    Q: The main character in The Sixth Station is a Manhattan-based reporter who works for a large metropolitan newspaper. I know the story is fictitious, but how much of the story is based on your experience working as a reporter?

    A: You can't write honestly about a newsroom or a reporter without having been one. That's why so many TV shows and movies get it wrong. A tabloid newsroom is a rough and tumble place. Not a place for sissies. ....

    Q: What do you say to cynics or to those whose feathers may have been ruffled with the controversial subject matter you tackle in The Sixth Station?

    A: For one thing I prove that Saint Veronica, who is celebrated in The Sixth Station of the Cross, and for whom the fourth and most important pillar of the entire Vatican is dedicated, is a total fiction story. She never existed -- but the story was made up because the Church wouldn't have allowed the most important relic in all of Christendom to be placed in the hands of a woman they denigrated --Mary Magdalen.

    Did I mean to upend a 2,000 year old belief? No.

    As a reporter, did I have a choice? No -- not once I found out the truth, I didn't.
     

    http://us.macmillan.com/thesixthstation/lindastasi

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jill-rachel-jacobs/six-questions-for-linda-s_b_2526164.html

    Because Alessandra is publicly kissed by a notorious Moslem terrorist, she is falsely accused of murder. Therefore, she investigates the history of the Roman Catholic.

    Oh, well yeah. I mean, what else would you do?

  94. Linda Stasi used to write decent tv reviews in the Post. Liberal for that paper but not unhinged. It’s interesting though because initial reports were sayings things like how shocking it was because the killer was so normal and even got along with the Jewish guy at work and then it became obvious he had gotten into arguments with an opinionated messianic Jew. It’s like Seinfeld with Uncle Leo: “can you blame him?”

  95. Sad news everyone, the new Canadian Liberal government has withdrawn funding for the Victims of Communism memorial. I suppose they didn’t want to offend Canada’s communists.

    The federal Liberals won’t fund the Victims of Communism or Mother Canada monuments, sources tell Global News.

    Both were public-private ventures that garnered the support of former Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative government.

    Now, it appears, both are merely private endeavours if they go forward at all. . . .

    The Victims of Communism memorial was supposed to be beside the Supreme Court of Canada in Ottawa — something Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin and Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson, among others, opposed.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/historypicss/status/672085331462721536
  96. @Jefferson
    "In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early ’80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks."

    A lot of K-12 teachers in the early 1980s were Social Justice Warriors in 1968, the year MLK was assassinated.

    The high school in that town had portraits of African kings on the wall, including a pharaoh depicted as a black man with Jeri Curls.

  97. @TangoMan
    Sad news everyone, the new Canadian Liberal government has withdrawn funding for the Victims of Communism memorial. I suppose they didn't want to offend Canada's communists.

    The federal Liberals won’t fund the Victims of Communism or Mother Canada monuments, sources tell Global News.

    Both were public-private ventures that garnered the support of former Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative government.

    Now, it appears, both are merely private endeavours if they go forward at all. . . .

    The Victims of Communism memorial was supposed to be beside the Supreme Court of Canada in Ottawa — something Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin and Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson, among others, opposed.
     
  98. @Nathan Cook
    A "Messianic Jew" (or "Jew for Jesus", as we always used to call them in Manchester) is a believer in Jesus as the Messiah, who also follows Jewish customs and laws, to a greater or lesser extent. Most of them also believe in Jesus' divinity. They're Christians.

    That said: targeted by an Islamic terrorist for his beliefs (probably), attacked by the gutter press after his death for not being a good enough victim – if there was ever a Messianic Jew that merited honorary membership in the Tribe, it's the poor deceased.

    Messianic Jews regard themselves as Jews, not Christians.

  99. @Steve Sailer
    What is "Messianic Jew" anyway?

    A Jew who converts to evangelical Christianity but keeps a few random Jewish cultural customs, most often seen down south.

    Evangelicals love this and treat them like rock stars. I think we are worth five normal converts.

    Jews for Jesus is a specific group that tends to annoy practicing Jews with aggressive in person marketing.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    No, Messianic Judaism is its own denomination (or family of denominations) and they have their own congregations and retain a lot of the language and customs of Judaism. In America they seem to be pretty well dispersed across the country and are by no means confined to, or even disproportionate to, the South.

    There are even about 100 Messianic Jewish congregations in Israel. Yeah, Jews who become Baptists, Mormons, etc., are sometimes treated like rock stars, but they aren't Messianic Jews.

  100. @TangoMan
    When conservatives are on the losing side of a culture war, say porn or sex ed, they don't come across as this unhinged, maybe because they're used to losing on the culture front. Liberals though are losing on guns and immigration and it's funny watching them lash out. Thankfully they'll never buy guns and lash out that way, all we have to worry about is having our senses overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil as liberals turn to aromatherapy to deal with their angst.

    Liberals though are losing on guns and immigration and it’s funny watching them lash out.

    They are?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Yes they are losing, and losing badly.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/24/what-americans-want-to-do-about-illegal-immigration/

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/29/gallup-poll-only-seven-percent-of-americans-want-more-immigration/

    More Americans said they had a favorable opinion of North Korea (11 percent) than wanted to than wanted to increase immigration (7 percent). The poll data are overwhelming; politicians will disregard public opinion on this issue at their peril: Remember RINO Eric Cantor and how he lost the primary to David Brat? (Cantor was denying the border was being overrun as the media was showing human waves over taking it during the two weeks before the election)

    * Gallup (1/29/15): By a more than 5-to-1 margin (39% vs. 7%), Americans who are dissatisfied with current immigration levels want less rather than more

    * Pew (2012): 69% say we should “restrict and control people coming to live in our country more than we do now” (including 59% of Hispanics)

    * Reuters (8/7/14): By a nearly 3-to-1 margin (45% vs. 17%), Americans think immigration rates should be reduced, not increased

    * Princeton Survey Research Associates (6/23/13): 61% say that there “should be restrictions” on the number of STEM-related foreign workers allowed to enter the U.S.

    * Gallup (6/8/14): By a 2-to-1 margin (41% vs. 22%), Americans think immigration should be decreased rather than increased

    * The Polling Company (8/14/14): By a staggering 10-to-1 margin (75% vs. 8%), Americans believe that a business seeking workers should raise wages and improve working conditions before hiring new labor from abroad

    Why do you think Trump is leading by so great a margin.

    They are losing badly, soon the voter importation pipeline will be cut and their illegals sent home.....
  101. I can’t bother myself to learn what being a “Messianic Jew” means exactly, although, based on the general tendencies of the evangelical movement, I think I do have a vague idea. That being said, a few things are clear to me, from the name “Nicholas Thalasinos”, plus a very quick web search, that aren’t to some of the other commenters:

    (1) Nicholas Thalasinos was not an ethnic Jew.
    (2) Nicholas Thalasinos was not a convert Jew.

    If I had any previous knowledge of ethnic Jews, and an interest in HBD anthropology, I would possibly also have an opinion about whether the kind of behavior and mental attitude displayed by the late Mr. Thomasinos is compatible with even the most fringe specimens of ethnic Jews.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    It seems I am wrong.
  102. @TangoMan
    What a great illustration of how the American left is evolving into a purely anti-white political movement, not one focused on protecting the economic interests of the working and middle classes.

    A modern day Leftist has no choice but to defend the Coalition of the Fringes that they've assembled and the most satisfying way of doing that is to demonize those who are not on the Left. What this does though is it shrinks the margins on the pool of whites who lean left and accelerates white flight from the Democrats towards the Republicans, which in turn amps up the anti-white animus to an even higher level.

    All around the West we saw the same phenomenon play out - Leftist parties having to import 3rd worlders for their votes.

    https://youtu.be/EFTThC17vqI?t=3m24s

    The quest for power has led them down this path and they have to keep doubling down at every stage. They didn't start out as rabidly anti-white, but as whites consistently defect away from the Left, the Left has to signal to the remaining whites that they're better than the defectors, meanwhile they replace the departed whites with new 3rd worlders.

    Leftist parties having to import 3rd worlders for their votes.

    That’s their plan, but it tends to fail as the white reaction to increased third world populations usually more than off-sets the voters of the migrants who manage to become citizens and bother to vote.

  103. @Brás Cubas
    I can't bother myself to learn what being a "Messianic Jew" means exactly, although, based on the general tendencies of the evangelical movement, I think I do have a vague idea. That being said, a few things are clear to me, from the name "Nicholas Thalasinos", plus a very quick web search, that aren't to some of the other commenters:

    (1) Nicholas Thalasinos was not an ethnic Jew.
    (2) Nicholas Thalasinos was not a convert Jew.

    If I had any previous knowledge of ethnic Jews, and an interest in HBD anthropology, I would possibly also have an opinion about whether the kind of behavior and mental attitude displayed by the late Mr. Thomasinos is compatible with even the most fringe specimens of ethnic Jews.

    It seems I am wrong.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    Sorry for all the comings and goings, but I was right after all (apparently):

    http://www.jta.org/2015/12/04/default/messianic-san-bernandino-victim-was-gentile-supporter-of-israel-the-jewish-people

    Thanks, Steve (hope you'll publish this one).
    , @WhatEvvs
    Where did you find out you were wrong? Thalasinos struck me as an ethnic Greek who picked up some customs, et voila, Messianic Jew. I know about Jews for Jesus but I thought he wasn't one.

    BTW, Ms. Stasi tweeted about this particular column no less than five times.
  104. @International Jew

    A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe.
     
    "Messianic Jews" are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate).

    Which is neither here nor there, though. Thalasinos sounds like he was a good guy. Maybe an iSteve reader.

    Messianic Jews are Jewish apostates. Well, not really “apostates” since there is no Pope of the Jews to decide “who’s a Jew”. But since his mother is/was a Jew, the dead guy is a Jew (albeit misguided) for at least 90% of Jews on Earth.

    In other news, another bunch of Torah-true, Shabbos-obedient,”Messianic” Jews (Chabad/Lubavitchers) have started a new ad campaign to get Palestinians to follow the seven Noachide Laws (the Jewish laws for Gentiles) and to recognize deceased Rabbi Schneerson as the Messiah.

    See http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2015/12/chabad-launches-special-mitzvah-campaign-for-palestinians-promoting-7-laws-of-noah-dead-rebbe-as-mes-678.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Only some of the Lubavitchers think that the late rebbe Schneersohn was the messiah.
    , @ogunsiron
    Are they signing the palestinians up for classes in water carrying and wood cutting ?
  105. @Wilkey
    Indeed. How often do people see video of Ivy League students in their element? Yet here we have some very public video of supposedly cream-of-the-crop black Ivy League students and it's just not that impressive. I know there are lots of truly brilliant students at Princeton and Yale, but in my mind their reputation took a huge hit. Can't imagine it hasn't been damaged in the minds of lots of others, too.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Scary. You would think these students, who are probably well-traveled, would at least be prompted to wonder why the seasons are backwards in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres, and how that could be possible if the seasons were the result of the earth's distance to the sun.

    It's also a good example of how abolishing one misconception can sometimes just give rise to others. "The earth's orbit is a circle!" "No, it's not a circle, it's an ellipse!" Teacher then draws an elliptical earth orbit that looks far less like the actual orbit of the earth than...a circle.

    , @res
    How in depth did the interviewers go? What I would like to see is this series of questions:
    1. What causes the seasons?
    2. How sure are you of your answer?
    3. How do you explain the seasons being opposite in the northern and southern hemispheres?
    , @International Jew
    I think that's a bit unfair. High school science is all biology, chemistry and physics (unless, ironically, you're not a "college prep track" student and you take "earth science"). Grade school is your last chance to be taught astronomy and as it happens none of my teachers ever covered it. They taught us many other interesting things but science is a big field and you can't cover it all, or even all that's accessible to children.

    At age 37, with Comet Hyakutake wowing us all, I distinctly remember wondering, for the first time in my life, what accounts for the phases of the moon. And that I spent at least ten minutes making sketches before I figured it out. Prior to that, if you'd walked up to me with a microphone, I would have sounded just as "stupid" as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that's Harvard).
  106. @Anonymous
    It's a great, eye-opening point. They are us and we are them. I myself even spent that day in a work conference, which aside from not ending with me killing 14 people, was EXACTLY the same thing they did. It's uncanny- I mean I'm married as well, which aside from my wife not suggesting that I kill or helping me to kill 14 people, is exactly the relationship two of them had. I've also joined a religious group in the past, which, aside from suggesting that I be nice to strangers rather than murder 14 of them, seems to be exactly what they did. I'm having a hard time telling the difference between them and me and I know for a fact I didn't kill 14 people!

    My eyes are opened.

    Beautiful. Thanks.

  107. @Steve Sailer
    What is "Messianic Jew" anyway?

    Jews for Jesus. I’m surprised you don’t know about them. Organized Jewry is *not* sympathetic.

  108. @Reg Cæsar

    … all we have to worry about is having our senses overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil as liberals turn to aromatherapy to deal with their angst.
     
    She comes in incense and patchouli…

    So that's what that song was about. We're now in the year of the cat.

    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate; Year of the Cat remains one of my favorites.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Yeah, I heard Year of the Cat in McDonalds this morning and it still sounded great, even though it is almost 40 years old.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate...
     
    He's lived in California since the late '70s, and has a place in Napa Valley. He was the first rock-star œnophile, and calls himself the victim of "a great red wine conspiracy".

    A sense of humor, too!
  109. Marine Le Pen is about to become the governor of France’s third largest region:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3347586/France-s-far-right-National-course-massive-gains-regional-elections-seizing-fears-refugee-crisis-Paris-terror-attacks.html

    Her party could win as many as 6 of the 13 regional elections.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    See also this article in the FT:

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/673305208500436992
  110. @Bugg
    The Daily News has been bleeding money for a while. Zuckerman has suggested that without union concessions both among printing, delivery and writing staffs he will take the entire operation on line either several days a week or completely. There have been a series of buyouts with every part of the operation and layoffs of writing staff. Was a time the News was viewed as the middle class paper but now they are tyring to out Times the Times. Like all hard copy newspapers it's shrunk dramatically. Anyone under 30 doesn't buy a newspaper any more and they don't expect to pay for content.

    It's main competition is Rupert Murdoch's New York Post. On the books, the Post also loses money. But Murdoch bought up all the local weekly neighborhood papers and pennysavers. Those are all chock full of advertising revenue, he can recycle content cheaply and it keeps the printing presses rolling. So the while The Post part of his operation loses money on the books it's offset by integrating those very profitable operations. Murdoch has offered Zuckerman the chance to consolidate printing and delivery operations and Zuckerman has refused.

    Stasi actually left the Post for the News.Perhaps she is going overboard with the rest of the News trying to appeal to liberals. But the Times has that niche all locked up.

    Under 30? Does anyone under 60 buy newspapers? I read my parents’ newspapers cover to cover as a kid but that was when the internet was still a wee bairn. Paying for news seems like paying for water now.

  111. Read the comments, everyone is jumping on her for equating nasty Internet writing with mass murder.

  112. @Steve Sailer
    What is "Messianic Jew" anyway?

    I agree with what Lot says. But the “random customs” are not a triviality, but the core of the problem. Messianic Jews are a major psychic threat to your typical, 90% assimilated Western Jew precisely because of those “random customs”.

    Most Jews, like most Western Christians, are not particularly devout. Their Judaism rests in familiar songs, familiar food, familiar rituals, familiar liturgy, and familiar dress: the lighting of candles, the dreidel, the kippah, the tallit, the Hebrew prayers, attending services a couple times a year.

    Imagine you could keep all those things, (along with the belief that you are still “chosen” by God and therefore special) but align yourself a bit closer to the dominant Christian culture by professing to believe Jesus was the Messiah.

    The incredible seductiveness is that everything would “feel” pretty much the same. Heck, if your kids became “Messianic” you might not even know when they came home for Passover. The prayers, the kippah, the dreidel, the food, the songs, everything would be the same.

    But what about THEIR kids? Given the dominating position of Christian culture in the West, it is a tiny, almost imperceptible next step to marrying a Christian, or attending a generic Christian church. And then they are gone forever.

    I know Buddhist Jews, agnostic Jews, even atheist Jews. None of them freak out their parents or fellow Jews. Think about it. How strange that a Jew who denies the very existence of God Almighty in ANY form whatsoever is much less of a threat to your typical half-assimilated Jew than a Jew who believes Jesus is the Messiah. Why? Because the atheist Jew will still partake in ritual Jewish life and will marry a Jew. He may be a “draft dodger” (so to speak) but at least he has not “gone over to the enemy’s camp”.

    Heck, most Jews aren’t even bothered by the Lubavitcher Jews who say Rabbi Schneerson is the Messiah. Why? The chance that a liberal Jewish kid would go “full Lubavitch” are pretty damn slim (and even if they did, they would still breed race pure). In contrast to Lubavitch Messianists, however, being dissolved into generic, thoughtless, workaday Christianity is incredibly easy, given that their kids are surrounded by Christians and share their values, culture and decadence.

    Think of Messianic Jews as a “gateway drug” for half-assimilated Jews (aka “neo-Christians” as Rabbi Tendler calls them) and you can understand their tremendous anxiety and fear.

    See e.g. http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/27/local/me-36790

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Reform, agnostic and atheist Jews marry out at high rates these days. And dreidels are Hanukkah-specific. They have nothing to do with Passover.
    , @Lot
    Seems that you, me, and International Jew here all disagree with the wikipedia definition of Messianic Jew which seems to reserve the term for someone goes to a quasi-Jewish Christian church. I had no idea there were so many of these churchs, 300+ in the USA and 100+ in Israel.

    That is not at all how the term was used where I grew up, where there were far too few Jews to form a congregation of evangelical converts.

    Imagine you could keep all those things, (along with the belief that you are still “chosen” by God and therefore special) but align yourself a bit closer to the dominant Christian culture by professing to believe Jesus was the Messiah.
     
    The conversos in my family all went Lutheran or Catholic and had no desire to keep any Jewish customs other than a mild marriage preference for fellow assimilated Ashkenazi, whether practicing Jews, fellow conversos, or baptized at birth half breeds.

    My experience with evangelical Christianity is mostly going to bible camp with my best friend several summers in a row. I did not particularly want to go the first year since it involved waking up early in the summer, but my mother announced I was going after talking with his mother and I enjoyed it.
    , @gcochran
    If it was about racial purity - there wouldn't be a 70% intermarriage rate. That's not the reason.
  113. @andy
    Stasi? that seems a fitting name for her

    It’s Tom Wolfe’s world. We’re only living in it.

    • Replies: @wren
    When I heard about the stabbing in Art Basel yesterday, my first thought was that some bazillionaire had bought some invisible art before another could get their hands on it, a la Back To Blood.
  114. collecting the kind of arsenal that the Facebook poster would have envied.

    What gun guy would envy an “arsenal” of two common, inexpensive pistols and two common, inexpensive rifles?

    Most would call that a starter pack.

    Now if those 5000 rounds were all 22LR, that might cause some envy, but 5000 rounds isn’t much for most shooters to have on hand.

  115. @Anon
    We need a new 9/11 commission report to see how many of the 3000 dead were actually haters and deserved to die on that day.

    Let's not waste our sympathy on any 9/11 victim who made a joke about Muslims or homos.

    Already partially accomplished.

    “They were not human to me. Black, white, or whatever, they were menaces of nature; they were the fire, the comet, the storm, which could — with no justification — shatter my body.”

  116. @Hippopotamusdrome

    Thalasinos was also a hate-filled bigot.
    ...
    anti-Islam
    ...
    posted screeds like, “You can stick your Muslim Million Man march up your asses,”

     

    Vs.

    Stasi: Evangelical nuts should practice what Jesus preached, not reach for their guns over Starbucks cups

    THIS GUY’S CHOCK FULL O’ NUTS

    Do ultraconservative evangelicals see a conspiracy behind every (non) Christmas tree?
    ...
    former ... pastor-turned-Internet evangelical hysteric Joshua Feuerstein, whose nutbag rant outside a Starbucks has nearly broken the Internet

     

    Attention-seeking asshole meets attention-seeking asshole.

  117. So this Gun owning, self-defense advocating, Fedgov distrusting, Islamophobic shooting victim held disgusting, evil, incorrect opinions…

    …that turned out to be very justified. Prophetic, even.

  118. @International Jew

    A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe.
     
    "Messianic Jews" are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate).

    Which is neither here nor there, though. Thalasinos sounds like he was a good guy. Maybe an iSteve reader.

    Obviously, it doesn’t matter how nice a guy he was. You dont get to kill someone because they’re a jerk. Stasi’s line of argument is equivalent to the one where someone justifies raping some girl because she was wearing a short miniskirt and had a reputation for putting out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Is there any substantive evidence at all that he antagonized, bullied or abused the murderer?

    Even if he did, then this could never be construed as 'justifying' the murders.
  119. @TangoMan
    When conservatives are on the losing side of a culture war, say porn or sex ed, they don't come across as this unhinged, maybe because they're used to losing on the culture front. Liberals though are losing on guns and immigration and it's funny watching them lash out. Thankfully they'll never buy guns and lash out that way, all we have to worry about is having our senses overwhelmed with the reek of patchouli oil as liberals turn to aromatherapy to deal with their angst.

    I guess we’ll “find what’s waiting inside”. And- Al Stewart’s “Last Days of the Century” seems prescient these days – ” I hear the hosts of Mohammad coming…”

  120. @NOTA
    Obviously, it doesn't matter how nice a guy he was. You dont get to kill someone because they're a jerk. Stasi's line of argument is equivalent to the one where someone justifies raping some girl because she was wearing a short miniskirt and had a reputation for putting out.

    Is there any substantive evidence at all that he antagonized, bullied or abused the murderer?

    Even if he did, then this could never be construed as ‘justifying’ the murders.

  121. Wow that was vicious – a huge next step down, that the any “Conservative” victims of Islamic terrorism/mass murder are jet as bad, the same as the worst Islamic terrorists, slavers etc.

    Before this, I thought the worst it would get would by lying PC Leftists like Doonesbury’s Gary Trudeau who insisted that the Algerian Islamic murderers of the French cartoonists and the Jewish shop keeper were just marginalized victims of racial discrimination who went Jihadist mass murderers because French/Western society didn’t love them enough.

    Now the next horrible step down the lying PC Left descent to Dante’s Infernal is to defame the dead Conservatives, say they are as bad as the worst Islamic mass murderers.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Obviously the next step is to drop the pretence that killing conservatives is even wrong.
  122. @Maj. Kong
    Surname of "Stasi" wow...is that creepy or what.

    Mort Zuckerman is quite the hater himself, of the Constitution and the values of traditional America.

    Speaking of Zuckerman, the latest Guns & Ammo (1/16) editorial talks about how “The Guns & Ammo Facebook page has been flagged for falling under ‘Promoting the Private Sale of Guns.”

    Also, he, Eric R. Poole, said typing “Guns And Ammo Facebook” into Google resulted in “Nothing!”

    So, the gun controllers are slowly trying to dry up access to pro-gun ideas on the Internet.

    Mr. Poole asks: “What are we going to do about it? Email me your thoughts at [email protected]

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Mort Zuckerman (owner of the NY Daily News) is not the same person as Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook).
  123. @Boomstick
    The gun rights people have been very effective at countering this tendency--it's one of the few American traditionalist groups that have resisted it, and others can learn from them.

    Progs have been trying to do demonize guns for decades--at least since the 60's, and explicitly since the Clinton 90's, when they made it a goal to "de-normalize" gun ownership. The gun people basically told them to shove it, organized the hell out of their voters, and then ruthlessly enforced compliance with their beliefs by the politicians. In anything like a competitive district it's a bad idea to cross the NRA. Politicians are naturally squishes, and the NRA simply makes it more painful to sell out to the progs than it is to give the NRA what it wants, ie be left alone. The NRA also developed a good think tank bench, and the law review articles on gun rights laid the foundation for the Heller and McDonald decisions, which recognized an individual right to own guns.

    I think this is the root of the current Obama faction frustration about guns. They went to their playbook, and it didn't work. As a result they're a unhinged, and trying more of the same, only with more shrill.

    I always argued that it wasn’t Florida that lost Gore the 2000 election; it was West Virginia. That state had gone blue every election except Reagan in ’84 up to that point. Win that state, and Gore oesn’t need Florida. It was primarily Gore’s anti-gun stance which cost him West Virginia.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    West Virginia or Tennessee either one. Even Carter in 1980 and Mondale in 1984 won their home states against Reagan. Gore's anti gun stance made sure he couldn't carry his home state.
    , @David In TN
    And Al Gore also lost his (supposed) home state of Tennessee in 2000. Gore would have won had he carried Tennessee. Florida wouldn't have mattered.
  124. @flyover hick
    "You ever wonder where Stalin and the Nazis got their willing executioners? It is among people like Stasi. They already objectified people(the way psychopaths do) and since they don’t believe in rights for anyone but their kind, pulling the trigger is easy."


    Linda “Stasi” – truth really is stranger than fiction.
    You make a point that I’ve tried to get across to conservative family and friends for years.
    Namely, that when it comes to liberals, typical conservatives don’t truly understand with whom they’re dealing with.

    In a different time and a different place, a lot of liberals would be torturing conservatives in the Lubyanka and enjoying it.

    “Linda Stasi.”

    A name Tom Wolfe couldn’t make up.

  125. @Jefferson
    With Lindsey Graham still polling at zero percent less than 2 months before the Republican primaries begin, he has finally snapped with anger knowing that he does not have a snowball's chance in hell of ever winning the Republican nomination. This week he was taking shots at his own Party's voting base for being too Right Wing on immigration and abortion as well as admit to being bitter about the fact that Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are way ahead of him in the polls. Lindsey Graham does not even pretend to be a Conservative anymore, he is revealing his true colors just like Karl Rove has done recently. RINO's from the Dubya Bush "Compassionate Conservatives For More 3rd World Immigration And More Tax Cuts For Billionaires" era like Karl Rove and Lindsey Graham are being put out to pasture. Their time is up, there time is no longer now. They are too Left Wing for this new brand of Republican voters who are mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore. Those two clowns are better of jumping ship to The Democratic Party.

    And South Carolina’s “conservative” voters reelect Graham every time.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    And South Carolina’s “conservative” voters reelect Graham every time.
     
    They're not interested in politics.
  126. @Hail

    the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.
     
    Except that it still controls the vast, decentralized apparatus for socializing the young. New recruits. It works on most.

    One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of "Dr. King"? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas, but in the end the cult won out by the early or mid 1990s even in the "reddest" areas...something like that. Thus most of those under 40 today, and all of those under 30, were subject to this indoctrination from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man, even most self-described "strong conservatives".

    A good chunk of English class every year I was in high school was devoted to black and feminist literature. A book I read in 10th grade put forward as plausible the idea that Jesus may have been black.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    "Jesus may have been black": did they prefer that Judas stay white though?
    , @Lot

    A good chunk of English class every year I was in high school was devoted to black and feminist literature.
     
    We had a generic diversity English textbook, so we read quite a few stories about hispanic children in the Southwest even though the entire high school did not have a single hispanic student. Or any asians for that matter. One that was particularly alarming involved a Mexican-American boy who witnessed a rat bite off the ear of his infant brother.
  127. @Dave Pinsen
    In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early '80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.

    Man, that’s like playing Herod in the Christmas play. You must’ve been really popular.

  128. Leftist conservative [AKA "radical_centrist"] says: • Website

    there is a very insightful comment below that Daily News article linked above (by a commentor named Stewie Griffin:

    “All the News can do these days to stay relevant is write inflammatory columns and headlines to get people to click and read. It’s the only way they can get any money to stay afloat.

    What is so troubling to me is that the News claims it knows how to fix terrorism, the NRA, homeless and many other ills that affect Americans. Real important stuff … BUT THEN WHY CAN’T IT FIX ITS BALANCE SHEET TO MAKE A PROFIT? IT IS LOSING MONEY AND STAFFERS ARE QUITTING AND WALKING OUT IN DROVES.”

    So true! The news media business model (including the NY Daily News and many other similar newspapers) has been so damaged by the internet that almost all the media outlets (other than TV) have had to become inflammatory clickbait factories. One of the best choices for inflammatory clickbait articles is racial tensions. In essence the news media has had to resort to promoting and developing a race war in order to get clicks and survive. TV news has not had to do this because the internet is not yet at the stage where it can compete with TV news. Now, as for computer geeks like me, I don’t even watch TV any more. But there is still a majority of americans who watch TV. And the really dominant media print outlets like NYT and WaPo etc are still strong enough to be able to avoid stirring up racial tensions via clickbait.

    But as for most other media outlets, it comes down to either exploit racial tensions or shut down.

    The ironic thing about this dynamic is that the media is hooked directly into corporate profits. The higher profits go, the more ads the corporations can buy in the media.

    But this clickbait race-war model that is developing on print media websites is already stirring up a lot of backlash among whites. And whites still make up two thirds of america. The Trump phenomenon is partly fed by the media clickbait race war dynamic. When this white backlash comes to fruition it will shut down mass immigration, which will curtail corporate profits, which will kill off a lot of media outlets. Hoist on their own petard, etc.

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative
    part of what is going on here is a financial war of attrition in the news media. Newspapers like the Daily News are struggling to survive on the internet. The best way to do that is inflammatory clickbait, and richest soil there is the race war, terrorism fear, etc. These once-haughty newspapers are now having to pander to the "base" instincts of whites who don't like multiculturalism. They use this race war clickbait to inflame and outrage and get clicks.

    You still have the big boys of the newspaper world that refuse to give in to this clickbait race war dynamic. NY Times WaPo et al are still solvent enough to toe the corporate line on anti-white multiculturalism, and they take the moderate, restrained, above it all approach...for the time being...and there are always billionaires willing to fund the continued dissemination of this pro-establishment propaganda.

    But outlets like The Daily News --no rich savior in sight--are headed the way of Breitbart or Salon eventually. Choose a side and let the race war commence. The siren call of white readers will eventually send them that way. One by one, they come to that financial fork in the road.

  129. Despite all the self-congratulations we americans indulge in for our freedom of speech, there’s a good reason for the informal rule that sex, politics and religion should not be discussed with outsiders.

  130. @Chiron
    The Stasi was run by more than 30 years by the half-jew Markus Wolf, when the Belin Wall falled he almost escapes to israel.

    Markus Wolf ran the Stasi’s foreign intelligence division, not the entire organization.

  131. Leftist conservative [AKA "radical_centrist"] says: • Website
    @Leftist conservative
    there is a very insightful comment below that Daily News article linked above (by a commentor named Stewie Griffin:

    "All the News can do these days to stay relevant is write inflammatory columns and headlines to get people to click and read. It's the only way they can get any money to stay afloat.

    What is so troubling to me is that the News claims it knows how to fix terrorism, the NRA, homeless and many other ills that affect Americans. Real important stuff ... BUT THEN WHY CAN'T IT FIX ITS BALANCE SHEET TO MAKE A PROFIT? IT IS LOSING MONEY AND STAFFERS ARE QUITTING AND WALKING OUT IN DROVES."
     

    So true! The news media business model (including the NY Daily News and many other similar newspapers) has been so damaged by the internet that almost all the media outlets (other than TV) have had to become inflammatory clickbait factories. One of the best choices for inflammatory clickbait articles is racial tensions. In essence the news media has had to resort to promoting and developing a race war in order to get clicks and survive. TV news has not had to do this because the internet is not yet at the stage where it can compete with TV news. Now, as for computer geeks like me, I don't even watch TV any more. But there is still a majority of americans who watch TV. And the really dominant media print outlets like NYT and WaPo etc are still strong enough to be able to avoid stirring up racial tensions via clickbait.

    But as for most other media outlets, it comes down to either exploit racial tensions or shut down.

    The ironic thing about this dynamic is that the media is hooked directly into corporate profits. The higher profits go, the more ads the corporations can buy in the media.

    But this clickbait race-war model that is developing on print media websites is already stirring up a lot of backlash among whites. And whites still make up two thirds of america. The Trump phenomenon is partly fed by the media clickbait race war dynamic. When this white backlash comes to fruition it will shut down mass immigration, which will curtail corporate profits, which will kill off a lot of media outlets. Hoist on their own petard, etc.

    part of what is going on here is a financial war of attrition in the news media. Newspapers like the Daily News are struggling to survive on the internet. The best way to do that is inflammatory clickbait, and richest soil there is the race war, terrorism fear, etc. These once-haughty newspapers are now having to pander to the “base” instincts of whites who don’t like multiculturalism. They use this race war clickbait to inflame and outrage and get clicks.

    You still have the big boys of the newspaper world that refuse to give in to this clickbait race war dynamic. NY Times WaPo et al are still solvent enough to toe the corporate line on anti-white multiculturalism, and they take the moderate, restrained, above it all approach…for the time being…and there are always billionaires willing to fund the continued dissemination of this pro-establishment propaganda.

    But outlets like The Daily News –no rich savior in sight–are headed the way of Breitbart or Salon eventually. Choose a side and let the race war commence. The siren call of white readers will eventually send them that way. One by one, they come to that financial fork in the road.

  132. Whatever spurred the carnage, the end result was the murder and maiming of innocent people enjoying a holiday party.

    Keeping an arsenal is a protected right, but using the term, “Christmas” party? Now that could be trouble.

    Thr last two sentences of Stasi’s column. Please interpret.

    • Replies: @nglaer
    Keeping an arsenal is a protected right, but using the term, “Christmas” party? Now that could be trouble.

    Sorry, the above was the last sentence. The most curious.
  133. Thalasinos saved lives.

    Farook was manufacturing bombs for a long time, obviously planning to eventually commit an act of terrorism.

    If he had patiently waited until he was ready, and had chosen a different target, he could have killed far more than 14 people.

    The conservative points of view expressed by Thalasinos at the Christmas party enraged Farook, causing him to act prematurely against a less than ideal target.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    With respect to the "premature detonation" theory of the San Bernardino attack, didn't a group of the 9-11 hijackers almost get into a "parking lot rage incident" on their journey to Destiny.

    I am speaking of some familiarity with Near Eastern culture (think of the general part of the world where the ancestors of the Governor of Ohio come from) where a person can get worked up over some minor slight and lose track of the bigger picture and mission.

    You would think that someone who has a "bigger operation" going down would keep their cool so as not to blow Op Sec, but maybe certain cultures don't grasp the "wait till you see the whites of their eyes" principle.
  134. @Steve Sailer
    What is "Messianic Jew" anyway?

    Basically, a Christian who also follows Jewish law. There are two flavors: Jewish converts to Christianity who don’t want to abandon their traditions (“Jews for Jesus”, which goes over with regular Jews about two rungs below the Third Reich) and Evangelical Christians who choose for whatever reason to follow Jewish law, usually on a very autodidactic basis.

  135. @nglaer
    Whatever spurred the carnage, the end result was the murder and maiming of innocent people enjoying a holiday party.

    Keeping an arsenal is a protected right, but using the term, “Christmas” party? Now that could be trouble.


    Thr last two sentences of Stasi's column. Please interpret.

    Keeping an arsenal is a protected right, but using the term, “Christmas” party? Now that could be trouble.

    Sorry, the above was the last sentence. The most curious.

  136. @eric
    ... that means that anyone with https://www.unz.com/isteve in their browser history will be deemed as enemy combatants as opposed to victims in any workplace homicide.

    Luckily I am a man of leisure and have always managed to avoid anything resembling work. It’s a pity I wasn’t born in 1900, for then I could have joined the Drones Club along with Bertie Wooster, Boko Fittleworth, and Barmy Fungy Phipps.

    PS These posts are submitted by my valet.

  137. Mortimer Zuckerman is the owner of the New York Daily News.

  138. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Yes. It always works. Until it doesn't.

    When they do make the play for gun confiscation the interesting question is how far it goes. The Democrat party believes it can nationalize the police and then use them to take the guns.

    Of course, it won't work. At least for now, the military won't enforce it and will take our side. And if you just consider deer hunters, all by themselves there are too many rifle owners to realize gun confiscation.

    But if it were tried, what of the needless bloodshed? It could be worthy of the 1860s.

    The Russian word “устрашение” translates to “deterrence” AND “intimidation.”

    Right now, AR-15 prices are pretty much rock bottom, and have been because production has caught up with demand since Sandy Hook. The people who wanted one on the first wave are satiated, and bargains abound.

    Let’s face it, every AR-15 purchased now represents a vote of “No Confidence” in the regime and it’s power base, the MSM and Democrats. They fear the AR-15 because it represents the very same power they command via government edict.

    I urge everyone to buy one (at a minimum) and spit in Obama’s eye.

    After you get one, I urge everyone to sign up for Project Appleseed marksmanship training where you will learn how to properly shoot a semi-automatic rifle. (RWVA.org – Revolutionary War Veteran’s Association) Learn how to make hits on a 400 yard target with a rack grade rifle and open sights. Google “Project Appleseed” for youtube videos.

    • Replies: @jack ryan
    Nah....

    Get weapons that are practice that you/we can use.

    What weapons did the Left use to take over our media and our schools, universities. Certainly not AR 15s.

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn't end their activists' lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.

    If you are in to 1st amendment, get practical guns that you can use.

    22 bolt action rifle - target practice and shooting vermin. It's a lot better than nothing for home invaders

    12 gauge shot gun, home defense. It's loud and will get rioters to run the other direction.

    Revolver hand gun SW 38 special - easily concealed deadly at short range.

    Most everything else is very impractical. When has an AR 15 ever, ever been used to win us anything?
    , @wren
    And for folks who don't want to be on the blacklists of unz readers AND registered gun owners, they can purchase 80% lowers without any paperwork involved.
  139. 2Mintzin1 [AKA "Mike"] says:
    @Langley
    http://www.staradvertiser.com/breaking-news/woman-in-deadly-california-rampage-had-become-more-devout/

    OT?

    "The FBI would not say what it was looking for, but a neighbor said an old friend of Farook’s lives there. More than three years ago, that person bought the two assault rifles later used in the shooting, but authorities haven’t been able to talk to him because he checked himself into a mental hospital after the attack, said a law enforcement official who was not allowed to discuss the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity."

    These people were well coached.
    They went off too soon.

    “These people were well coached.
    They went off too soon. ”

    I agree. One of the flaws In an Al Qaeda or ISIS type operation is that it is almost more of an idea, rather than a top-down commanded group (such as the IRA). I think Jonah Goldberg had something to say about this shortly after 9/11.

    This organizational model can work well initially because it makes it difficult to locate and prosecute/nullify the leaders.

    However, had the Paris attackers waited just another six months to a year before their attack, Europe, and possibly England, would have had many thousands more “refugees,” probably containing at least a few hundred more ISIS operatives. They could have struck simultaneously all over Europe, causing real shock and damage to European society, and temporarily at least, making eastern Europe vulnerable to moves by Russia. Instead, European countries now face pressure from citizens to dial back acceptance of “refugees.”

    The San Bernadino attack functions similarly as an alarm for the American people, although on a much smaller scale.

  140. also a hate-filled bigot

    Ergo don’t worry so much, some people actually need killing.

  141. @Anon
    We need a new 9/11 commission report to see how many of the 3000 dead were actually haters and deserved to die on that day.

    Let's not waste our sympathy on any 9/11 victim who made a joke about Muslims or homos.

    What I find interesting in a lot of articles about the victims of terrorist attacks is that the victims are invariably described as “innocent”, as if that even needed to be said. For one thing, it implies that there might be some mass killings in which the victims were “guilty” and “deserving.”

  142. @Lot
    A Jew who converts to evangelical Christianity but keeps a few random Jewish cultural customs, most often seen down south.

    Evangelicals love this and treat them like rock stars. I think we are worth five normal converts.

    Jews for Jesus is a specific group that tends to annoy practicing Jews with aggressive in person marketing.

    No, Messianic Judaism is its own denomination (or family of denominations) and they have their own congregations and retain a lot of the language and customs of Judaism. In America they seem to be pretty well dispersed across the country and are by no means confined to, or even disproportionate to, the South.

    There are even about 100 Messianic Jewish congregations in Israel. Yeah, Jews who become Baptists, Mormons, etc., are sometimes treated like rock stars, but they aren’t Messianic Jews.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?
  143. @Jefferson
    The Inland Empire where the San Bernardino mass shootings took place used to be a solid Republican region in presidential elections. But that all changed in 2008 when Hussein turned The Inland Empire blue and he did it again in 2012 due to the Mexicanization of the region. The Inland Empire has experienced huge White flight.

    I wonder if Orange County in the long term will eventually go the way of The Inland Empire in presidential elections? If Republicans lose Orange County to the Democrats, the GOP might as close up all of their California offices for good because Orange County is the last bastion of any signs of Republicanism in California.

    But in the short term, will Donald Trump win Orange County in next year's presidential elections? Is there still enough White voters there for him to carry that county? I assume most Vietnamese voters there will not vote for The Donald due to his views on immigration. I am sure a lot of Viets in Orange County will become Hillary Clinton Republicans, the same way many White Democrats in the 1980s became Reagan Democrats.

    Oh shut up. I lived there and you don’t know anything about it, so don’t talk like you do.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Oh shut up. I lived there and you don’t know anything about it, so don’t talk like you do."

    You shut your trap. What I said about San Bernardino being a ghetto trash city is 100 percent fact. Which is why San Bernardino has one of the highest per capita murder rates in the state of California. The reason your broke butt lives there is because you can not afford to live in any of the nicer parts of The Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan Area.
  144. I don’t know all the nuances of these groups, but the Messianic Judaism/Christian Zionism is huge in the South.

    An example: I taught at a high school with a large ROTC program. We had a Jewish faculty member whose son was in the Israeli army. He came and spoke to the ROTC kids, with approval from the instructors (two tour Vietnam vets). Several of them (mostly with Baptist or Pentacostal backgrounds) wanted to fight for Israel. They believed doctrinally that this was the right thing to do. These were 16 year old kids.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "He came and spoke to the ROTC kids, with approval from the instructors (two tour Vietnam vets). Several of them (mostly with Baptist or Pentacostal backgrounds) wanted to fight for Israel. They believed doctrinally that this was the right thing to do."

    For the ROTC instructors to permit their charges to be proslytzed on behalf of a foreign power - to the extent that they would want to fight for a foreign power - would seem to me to be a dereliction of duty. To indulgen them in the belief that they should fight for some other people not thier own is equally wrong. They should not be encouraging that.
  145. @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrXaQu_qGeo

    Scary. You would think these students, who are probably well-traveled, would at least be prompted to wonder why the seasons are backwards in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres, and how that could be possible if the seasons were the result of the earth’s distance to the sun.

    It’s also a good example of how abolishing one misconception can sometimes just give rise to others. “The earth’s orbit is a circle!” “No, it’s not a circle, it’s an ellipse!” Teacher then draws an elliptical earth orbit that looks far less like the actual orbit of the earth than…a circle.

  146. If this is not a parody, the advantage? The Left and its ethnic pets are showing their hypocritical hateful hand before European Americans are plunged into an ever smaller minority and demographically and ‘random crime’ erased, as in South Africa.

  147. @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrXaQu_qGeo

    How in depth did the interviewers go? What I would like to see is this series of questions:
    1. What causes the seasons?
    2. How sure are you of your answer?
    3. How do you explain the seasons being opposite in the northern and southern hemispheres?

  148. @Anonymous
    Basically, what the NYT is saying, when you cut through all the extraneous bullshit, is that, in the USA, at least, where the NYT has a modicum of power and influence, individuals 'deserve' to die - in this case being summarily gunned down on the spot with no hint of hearing, trial or ceremony, for the crime of having thoughts and opinions the NYT doesn't agree with.

    So, the NYT shows us its true colors - and puts itself in the distinguished company of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Somoza, Idi Amin, Galtieri etc.

    Not even in Orwell with his dystopian fantasies could have described the sheer cruelty and intolerance of the NYT - In terms of brutality Genghis Khan is the role model.

    They were grave dancing sat the news of 500,000 dead working class whites a couple of weeks ago and no one big called them out (paging Trump.)

    Will there be a charity drive to help these suffering folks? Or just more encouragement for them to continue offing themselves?

    What if they end up adopting the Muslim way of suicide?

  149. @Jefferson
    With Lindsey Graham still polling at zero percent less than 2 months before the Republican primaries begin, he has finally snapped with anger knowing that he does not have a snowball's chance in hell of ever winning the Republican nomination. This week he was taking shots at his own Party's voting base for being too Right Wing on immigration and abortion as well as admit to being bitter about the fact that Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are way ahead of him in the polls. Lindsey Graham does not even pretend to be a Conservative anymore, he is revealing his true colors just like Karl Rove has done recently. RINO's from the Dubya Bush "Compassionate Conservatives For More 3rd World Immigration And More Tax Cuts For Billionaires" era like Karl Rove and Lindsey Graham are being put out to pasture. Their time is up, there time is no longer now. They are too Left Wing for this new brand of Republican voters who are mad as hell and are not going to take it anymore. Those two clowns are better of jumping ship to The Democratic Party.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Marco Rubio voted to continue to allow large-scale Muslim immigration
    “The amendment, offered Sen. Rand Paul, would have suspended visa issuances to more than 30 Muslim countries with active Jihadist populations.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/12/04/sens-rubio-graham-vote-continue-muslim-immigration-countries-jihadist-movements/

  150. Islam is the greatest problem humanity has ever faced. Step one is the expulsion of all Muslims in the West.

  151. @Lot
    Marine Le Pen is about to become the governor of France's third largest region:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3347586/France-s-far-right-National-course-massive-gains-regional-elections-seizing-fears-refugee-crisis-Paris-terror-attacks.html

    Her party could win as many as 6 of the 13 regional elections.

    See also this article in the FT:

    • Replies: @Lot

    With 13 regions up for grabs, the FN could come first in six of them in the first round with 30 per cent of the votes nationally, a recent Ipsos/Steria survey suggests. This could translate into victory in one or two regions in the second round — a first for the party.
     
    Maybe FN will do even better! There is no doubt there is a shy Tory effect going on with these polls, the question is how much. How many people are willing to say they are going to vote for someone who is being prosecuted for "hate speech" by the government in a country where the government employs 1/3 of the population?


    The party that attracts the biggest share of the vote in the second round automatically gets a quarter of the seats in the regional council to add to its tally.
     
    So for Calais/Nord, FN is polling 40% in the first round, and maybe will get up to 42% after minor parties are eliminated. They will then have a 67% share of the regional assembly.

    I don't see how, with the bonus, FN won't do better than 1 or 2 regions. They poll 30% overall and are, right now, just barely the largest party. How can you be the largest party nationwide, and a bonus is given to the largest party, and only take 2 of 13 regions? All they need to do is both come in first and do better than 25% of the vote to win a region.
  152. @Clifford Brown
    It's hard to believe that such piss-poor writing and irrational rhetoric is published in a major American newspaper. Also weird because The Daily News, while ostensibly Liberal, is traditionally "Liberal" in the way Middle Village, Queens is "Liberal". Basically, the Daily News is for traditional conservative Democrats who are not the rabid Right Wingers who read the Post, but too Middle Brow for the New York Times. Basically, Democrats who supported Guiliani.

    This article in contrast is full-on HuffPo/ Gawker in tone. Perhaps, the Daily News has decided to "Lean In" like MSNBC did a few years back. We'll see how that works out for them.

    The level of vitriol towards the victim who was a Messianic Jew on Twitter was rather shocking. John Podhoretz was particularly upset by Nicholas Thalasinos' religious affiliation, but even John Podhoretz, who contributes a weekly "BOMB IRAN NOW" opinion column for the Daily News, was disgusted by Stasi's article. Hopefully, other sensible voices push back in this direction.

    “This article in contrast is full-on HuffPo/ Gawker in tone. Perhaps, the Daily News has decided to “Lean In” like MSNBC did a few years back. We’ll see how that works out for them.”

    Don’t forget they’ve hired fake black man Shaun King as a “justice correspondent” and regularly publish columns from Al Sharpton. The Daily News has been looking for a buyer with deep pockets for some time now. My guess is that they are trying to attract a SJW type billionaire like the gay Facebook guy who bought the New Republic.

  153. @Tex
    Stasi's disgusting hit-piece on a murdered man stops short (barely) of saying he deserved to be murdered. But she goes all the way in saying Thalassios had no right to earn a living, for having the temerity to differ from the narrative.

    We have freedom of speech but even so, a city worker should refrain from such public bigotry. Municipal workers have been fired for spewing and posting racial and sexual slurs.
     
    It's a textbook bit of SJWery. You have the right to free speech, but if you use it, your livelihood should be taken away.

    It’s a textbook bit of SJWery. You have the right to free speech, but if you use it, your livelihood should be taken away.

    That’s because liberals DON’T believe in free speech.

    Also, Stasi is well-known in NYC as a humorless scold.

  154. @andy
    Stasi? that seems a fitting name for her

    Fun Fact. Mizz Stasi is married to Sid Davidoff, formerly the body man for liberal WASP mayor John Lindsay. Davidoff had some notable run ins with New York’s outer borough white ethnics, who were not to fond of Mr. Lindsay’s patrician style proto-SJWism. He once almost got into a fistfight with Mike Long, future chairman of the New York State Conservative Party and he beat up a young Conservative Party activist named George Marlin, who was handing out campaign literature for William F. Buckley during his run for mayor in 1965. Marlin would be the Conservative parties candidate for mayor in 1993 againstDavid Dinkins and Rudy Giuliani.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Marlin also wrote the party's history. It's worth reading, but watch the anti-nativist speed bump at the opening. The CPNYS is primarily an outer-borough pissed-off ethnics' party, whether they like it or not.
  155. @Mike Sylwester
    Linda Stasi has written a novel called The Sixth Station about a journalist named Alessandra Russo. Because Alessandra is publicly kissed by a notorious Moslem terrorist, she is falsely accused of murder. Therefore, she investigates the history of the Roman Catholic.

    One review summarizes this plot development as follows:


    On the run from unknown enemies, Alessandra finds herself on the trail of a global conspiracy and a story that could shake the world to its foundations. Is [Moslem terrorist] Demiel ben Yusef the Second Coming or the Antichrist? The truth may lie in the secret history of the Holy Family, a group of Templars who defied the church, and a mysterious relic stained with the sacred blood of Christ Himself ....
     
    Here is an excerpt of an interview of Stasi about her novel:

    Q: So is there really a relic that exists in a monastery deep in the mountains of Italy that may contain the DNA of Jesus?

    A: I believe that it does. It's called il Volto Santo and is the true Veil of Veronica, which is celebrated as part of the Stations of the Cross in almost every Catholic Church in the world.

    The thing I discovered is, however, that there never was a saint -- or a woman-- named Veronica. That is a story made up by the Church. ....

    Q: The main character in The Sixth Station is a Manhattan-based reporter who works for a large metropolitan newspaper. I know the story is fictitious, but how much of the story is based on your experience working as a reporter?

    A: You can't write honestly about a newsroom or a reporter without having been one. That's why so many TV shows and movies get it wrong. A tabloid newsroom is a rough and tumble place. Not a place for sissies. ....

    Q: What do you say to cynics or to those whose feathers may have been ruffled with the controversial subject matter you tackle in The Sixth Station?

    A: For one thing I prove that Saint Veronica, who is celebrated in The Sixth Station of the Cross, and for whom the fourth and most important pillar of the entire Vatican is dedicated, is a total fiction story. She never existed -- but the story was made up because the Church wouldn't have allowed the most important relic in all of Christendom to be placed in the hands of a woman they denigrated --Mary Magdalen.

    Did I mean to upend a 2,000 year old belief? No.

    As a reporter, did I have a choice? No -- not once I found out the truth, I didn't.
     

    http://us.macmillan.com/thesixthstation/lindastasi

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jill-rachel-jacobs/six-questions-for-linda-s_b_2526164.html

    The way to deal with that DaVinci code b.s. is to blow a lefty or bien pensant centrist’s mind and go Dutch Radical and tell them that Jesus is probably simply a historicized version of a Levantine fertility god, ergo Mary Magdalene and many other characters in the Gospel are as historical as Noah.

  156. @Lot
    I had a comment a few weeks ago predicting exactly this happening.

    In short, it will be very subtle, with black admissions going down by maybe a percentage point, and only in a third of selective schools, not all of them. But that's how the black set asides are set: there is no big meeting, schools just pick a target demographic and will only change it very slowly over time. When they feel changes are needed to their targets, they change them just a tad, and keep going if and only if they see their peer schools joining them.

    The thing is, black students are already more costly than white students. They pay less tuition when they are there, hurt the school's SAT/GPA stats and employment after graduation numbers, and donate less later on. Schools are aware of the cost and willing to pay it as long as their competitors are doing the same. But having to do things like move murals, annoy alumni, set up special "diversity centers," hire a bunch of "culturally sensitive peer counselors" and so on make the cost of a "diverse student body" that much higher.

    When Princeton caves and moves its Wilson mural, it is going to cost some huge number like $350,000 to do it properly. The cost of changing Harvard Law's logo, in use for more than 100 years, will be in the millions in direct costs and turn off tens of millions in donations.

    But those costs don’t hurt the people who control the universities in the short run, only in the long run. In the short run, agreeing with the demands means more administrator positions. So from the point of view of the people who run the universities, what’s not to love.

  157. @International Jew

    A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe.
     
    "Messianic Jews" are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate).

    Which is neither here nor there, though. Thalasinos sounds like he was a good guy. Maybe an iSteve reader.

    ““Messianic Jews” are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate).”

    Apparently a lot of them are Jews in the ethnic sense, which is the only sense that Jews care about. I don’t know if this poor guy was, but it’s certainly possible.

  158. “Thalasinos was an anti-government, anti-Islam, pro-NRA, rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy, who posted that it would be “Freaking Awesome” if hateful Ann Coulter was named head of Homeland Security.”

    I.e., he believed in a bunch of perfectly normal, lawful, all-american things. Since when is it hate filled to be “anti-government”? This Stasi-creature is aptly named.

    In any case, isn’t this “blaming the victim” – a charge that harpies like Stasi like to level at others?

  159. @Joe Stalin
    The Russian word "устрашение" translates to "deterrence" AND "intimidation."

    Right now, AR-15 prices are pretty much rock bottom, and have been because production has caught up with demand since Sandy Hook. The people who wanted one on the first wave are satiated, and bargains abound.

    Let's face it, every AR-15 purchased now represents a vote of "No Confidence" in the regime and it's power base, the MSM and Democrats. They fear the AR-15 because it represents the very same power they command via government edict.

    I urge everyone to buy one (at a minimum) and spit in Obama's eye.

    After you get one, I urge everyone to sign up for Project Appleseed marksmanship training where you will learn how to properly shoot a semi-automatic rifle. (RWVA.org - Revolutionary War Veteran's Association) Learn how to make hits on a 400 yard target with a rack grade rifle and open sights. Google "Project Appleseed" for youtube videos.

    Nah….

    Get weapons that are practice that you/we can use.

    What weapons did the Left use to take over our media and our schools, universities. Certainly not AR 15s.

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn’t end their activists’ lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.

    If you are in to 1st amendment, get practical guns that you can use.

    22 bolt action rifle – target practice and shooting vermin. It’s a lot better than nothing for home invaders

    12 gauge shot gun, home defense. It’s loud and will get rioters to run the other direction.

    Revolver hand gun SW 38 special – easily concealed deadly at short range.

    Most everything else is very impractical. When has an AR 15 ever, ever been used to win us anything?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    Well, the weapons you recommend have no range. Everything is not spitting distance combat. That's why the standard US military infantry weapon is the M4 carbine. Ever try stocking up on .22LR ammo? Good luck with that. 12 gauge ammo is big and heavy. Yes, a shotgun it is good for police use, not so good if you are engaged in battle. Even better would be a 7.62mm NATO weapon.

    Note that Project Appleseed is open to anybody with a rifle. There's even a more-or-less quasi-official Appleseed rifle, a .22LR semi-automatic magazine rifle. The whole idea behind PA is to get people to feel confident with their weapon so as to reliably engage targets at a distance. Do you want someone to be able to pick you off because you can't reach out and touch them?

    When has an AR-15 ever been used to win us anything? Well, it makes anti-gunners really, REALLY SCARED. Remember Handgun Control, Inc. and how for years and years, they asserted they just wanted your handgun and not your rifle? Then they slowly changed their tune and added ARs to their list of weapons to be declared verboten. It exposed the Brady Campaign as the LIARS that they are.

    "'Assault Weapons: Mass Produced Mayhem', highlights how the availability of assault weapons has changed the balance of power between law enforcement and criminals, endangering police officers and communities."

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/resources/assault-weapons-mass-produced-mayhem

    So yeah, the AR-15 is PURE INTIMIDATION ("deterrence") for the American Left. It won us the truth from the gun controllers. They want ALL the guns.
    , @Harold

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn’t end their activists’ lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.
     
    The left used comedy and sexy girls.
    , @27 year old
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff
  160. @Steve Sailer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrXaQu_qGeo

    I think that’s a bit unfair. High school science is all biology, chemistry and physics (unless, ironically, you’re not a “college prep track” student and you take “earth science”). Grade school is your last chance to be taught astronomy and as it happens none of my teachers ever covered it. They taught us many other interesting things but science is a big field and you can’t cover it all, or even all that’s accessible to children.

    At age 37, with Comet Hyakutake wowing us all, I distinctly remember wondering, for the first time in my life, what accounts for the phases of the moon. And that I spent at least ten minutes making sketches before I figured it out. Prior to that, if you’d walked up to me with a microphone, I would have sounded just as “stupid” as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that’s Harvard).

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    As you pointed out, those Harvard students managed to sound very confident while asserting the wrong reason for the change of the seasons. A couple of them even managed to sound didactic and condescending. Their confidence was completely untethered to any actual knowledge. In modern America, BS is often valued more than actual knowledge or experience, and I guess these Harvard grads have learned that lesson well.

    One should bear that in mind when one of them confidently lectures you that there is no such thing as race or about any of the other pieties of our current society.
    , @Anonymous
    In my high school everyone took earth science, and about 94% of us went to college - many of us to excellent colleges. I wasn't someone who liked science all that much, but I loved earth science. I'm glad I had the opportunity to take it. It taught me a lot about the world. And taking it in 9th grade seemed like the perfect time.
    , @Anonymous
    I would have sounded just as “stupid” as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that’s Harvard).

    Exactly. It's kind of funny to see the confidence they exude when giving an answer that is completely wrong.
    , @Wilkey
    No, it's perfectly fair. What causes the changing of the seasons and the phases of the moon are two of the earliest questions that piqued man's intellectual (and religious) curiosity. The fact that so many students are graduating from this nation's preeminent university without having ever learned these simple answers is pretty damn depressing. It wouldn't take one day's instruction in a high school physics class to adequately explain both.
  161. Islam will decapitate Leftism in the public square.

    Linda Stasi

    Ve haff vays of making you love ze Diversity.

    Will there be more articles forthcoming from Jennifer Gestapo, Ashley Komitet, and Sara Mukhabarat?

    I’m holding out for Sue GRU and Barb NKVD. Maybe Lotta KGB and Paula Partisan.

    See their logic or what passes for it is nearly identical to a rapist’s line of thinking that boils down “she had it coming because she dressed provocatively”.

    THIS. I see this “logic” from leftists constantly.

    (the way psychopaths do)

    That too. Individual leftists may not be mostly psychopathic, but leftism shows a lot of signs.

    We have freedom of speech but even so, a city worker should refrain from such public bigotry. Municipal workers have been fired for spewing and posting racial and sexual slurs.

    The fact that he wasn’t fired for it might have something to do with Jewish Privilege.

    Maybe we should get the Stasi to look into this Jewish Privilege.

    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles. Then the left side makes clear that you are disqualified from polite company if you are on the wrong side of history and the right side surrenders.

    The difference being, the leftists don’t usually swim against the current (the current being which side the money’s on). They are on “gun control.” And they’ve been losing every time. If anything, the 2nd Amendment crowd has been gaining ground.

    I wish Lawrence Auster were still alive and blogging. So much of what is happening is exactly what he used to write about. Here is his first law and corollary of majority-minority relations:

    I like that law. Lord knows I had my issues with Auster (not least of which was his refusal to acknowledge his law’s obvious applicability to Jews), but he was right on with that one. Exhibit A is how 9/11 improved the entertainment biz’ treatment of Arabs. You couldn’t make a movie like Cannonball Run today.

    I think he should get points off on account of the fact that he was, ultimately, in the end, killed by a Muslim.

    Yeah, talk about the truth being no defense.

  162. This Stasi harpy is also a litigious hypocrite:

    Linda Stasi Files Suit Against City

  163. @International Jew
    I think that's a bit unfair. High school science is all biology, chemistry and physics (unless, ironically, you're not a "college prep track" student and you take "earth science"). Grade school is your last chance to be taught astronomy and as it happens none of my teachers ever covered it. They taught us many other interesting things but science is a big field and you can't cover it all, or even all that's accessible to children.

    At age 37, with Comet Hyakutake wowing us all, I distinctly remember wondering, for the first time in my life, what accounts for the phases of the moon. And that I spent at least ten minutes making sketches before I figured it out. Prior to that, if you'd walked up to me with a microphone, I would have sounded just as "stupid" as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that's Harvard).

    As you pointed out, those Harvard students managed to sound very confident while asserting the wrong reason for the change of the seasons. A couple of them even managed to sound didactic and condescending. Their confidence was completely untethered to any actual knowledge. In modern America, BS is often valued more than actual knowledge or experience, and I guess these Harvard grads have learned that lesson well.

    One should bear that in mind when one of them confidently lectures you that there is no such thing as race or about any of the other pieties of our current society.

  164. “Assuming it’s not, have you ever noticed how often people who accuse other folks of being full of hate are really haters themselves?”

    The Left seems to traffic in projection.

  165. @flyover hick
    "You ever wonder where Stalin and the Nazis got their willing executioners? It is among people like Stasi. They already objectified people(the way psychopaths do) and since they don’t believe in rights for anyone but their kind, pulling the trigger is easy."


    Linda “Stasi” – truth really is stranger than fiction.
    You make a point that I’ve tried to get across to conservative family and friends for years.
    Namely, that when it comes to liberals, typical conservatives don’t truly understand with whom they’re dealing with.

    In a different time and a different place, a lot of liberals would be torturing conservatives in the Lubyanka and enjoying it.

    The historian Simon Epstein made almost exactly this point in his book The French Paradox a few years ago.

    The loudest antiracists in the 1920s and 1930s in France, including several who had sworn undying love for equality and justice for all, astonishingly became enthusiastic members of the proto-fascist Vichy government and many happily lauded Hitler’s “vision”.

    Many others, including such as Sartre and Camus, actually did very litttle to resist the Germans in practice but spent the post-war years lecturing the world on how to fight oppression.

    In fact – against progressiive myth – conservative and royalist figures formed the backbone of the resistants aligned with De Gaulle etc.

    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_paradoxe_français

    https://maximetandonnet.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/resume-livre-le-paradoxe-francais/

    • Replies: @AnAnon
    This is why I ultimately don't think that Islam beheading leftism in the public square matters. these are virtue signalers and nothing else.
  166. @Auntie Analogue
    Stasi is just another useful idiot enforcing sharia law: you're not allowed to "slander" Islam, Moslems, Mohammed, or anything or anyone else regarded as Islamic, so that messianic Jew Nicholas Thalasinos, one of the victims slain in the Farooks' jihad mass murders, had it coming, you see.

    In sharia law slander means anything said or written that offends a Moslem, even when what is said is factually true. This aligns perfectly with identity politics Social Justice Warriors taking umbrage at "microaggressions" and "hate speech." Like Moslems, and for all their lies about "embracing Diversity," proglodytes are anti-pluralist despots hell bent on dictating, policing and enforcing conformance to their views and strictures - in the federal cabinet Loretta Lynch being a prime exemplar with her stated intent to prosecute speech that "edges toward violence." Pity Ms. Lynch seems not to have noticed, let alone not to have remarked upon, the "holy" Koran's plentiful hateful commands to Moslems to persecute and commit violence upon the kuffar.

    “Expecting a jihad to follow Christian moral logic is like trying to get a dog high on catnip.” —Ann Sterzinger

  167. @Hail

    the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.
     
    Except that it still controls the vast, decentralized apparatus for socializing the young. New recruits. It works on most.

    One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of "Dr. King"? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas, but in the end the cult won out by the early or mid 1990s even in the "reddest" areas...something like that. Thus most of those under 40 today, and all of those under 30, were subject to this indoctrination from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man, even most self-described "strong conservatives".

    “One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of “Dr. King”? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas,”

    I attended high school in California in the late 70s / early 80s. We didn’t get a big dose of MLK propaganda. I’m sure he was mentioned, but not so much that I can rememer any specific example. Very few of my teachers in HS were SJWs, and on the whole I think they were pretty knowledgeable about what they taught, and were good conscientious teachers.

    It’s probably vastly different now. I’m sure that my old school is, today, thoroughly bathed in every liberal SJW narrative there is.

  168. @eric
    ... that means that anyone with https://www.unz.com/isteve in their browser history will be deemed as enemy combatants as opposed to victims in any workplace homicide.

    … that means that anyone with https://www.unz.com/isteve in their browser history will be deemed as enemy combatants as opposed to victims in any workplace homicide.

    If only. I’m sure she thinks we’re unlawful combatants. And she’s not alone in that.

  169. What is “Messianic Jew” anyway?

    As Nathan says, I think it means “Jew for Jesus,” basically. I.e., one of the few forms of apostasy (other than converting to Christianity) that Jews take seriously. Oddly, “Messianism” is huge within hard-core Judaism, and has nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity; it’s very cult-of-personality oriented.

    Sad news everyone, the new Canadian Liberal government has withdrawn funding for the Victims of Communism memorial. I suppose they didn’t want to offend Canada’s communists.

    Well, not the mass-murdering communists, anyway.

    Is there any substantive evidence at all that he antagonized, bullied or abused the murderer?

    We’ve been over this. Refusing to submit to Allah, and Muhammed his Prophet (PBUH), is antagonistic, bullying, and abusive toward Muslims.

    Even if he did, then this could never be construed as ‘justifying’ the murders.

    Kaffir dog.

    And South Carolina’s ignorant, know-nothing, chump “conservative” voters reelect Graham every time.

    FIFY. I do not profess to understand SC “conservatives.” I suspect Graham relies on a lot of votes from little old ladies in pillbox hats.

    I urge everyone to buy one (at a minimum) and spit in Obama’s eye.

    Two at least, in case one fails.

  170. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    I think that's a bit unfair. High school science is all biology, chemistry and physics (unless, ironically, you're not a "college prep track" student and you take "earth science"). Grade school is your last chance to be taught astronomy and as it happens none of my teachers ever covered it. They taught us many other interesting things but science is a big field and you can't cover it all, or even all that's accessible to children.

    At age 37, with Comet Hyakutake wowing us all, I distinctly remember wondering, for the first time in my life, what accounts for the phases of the moon. And that I spent at least ten minutes making sketches before I figured it out. Prior to that, if you'd walked up to me with a microphone, I would have sounded just as "stupid" as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that's Harvard).

    In my high school everyone took earth science, and about 94% of us went to college – many of us to excellent colleges. I wasn’t someone who liked science all that much, but I loved earth science. I’m glad I had the opportunity to take it. It taught me a lot about the world. And taking it in 9th grade seemed like the perfect time.

  171. @John Gruskos
    Thalasinos saved lives.

    Farook was manufacturing bombs for a long time, obviously planning to eventually commit an act of terrorism.

    If he had patiently waited until he was ready, and had chosen a different target, he could have killed far more than 14 people.

    The conservative points of view expressed by Thalasinos at the Christmas party enraged Farook, causing him to act prematurely against a less than ideal target.

    With respect to the “premature detonation” theory of the San Bernardino attack, didn’t a group of the 9-11 hijackers almost get into a “parking lot rage incident” on their journey to Destiny.

    I am speaking of some familiarity with Near Eastern culture (think of the general part of the world where the ancestors of the Governor of Ohio come from) where a person can get worked up over some minor slight and lose track of the bigger picture and mission.

    You would think that someone who has a “bigger operation” going down would keep their cool so as not to blow Op Sec, but maybe certain cultures don’t grasp the “wait till you see the whites of their eyes” principle.

  172. @International Jew
    I think that's a bit unfair. High school science is all biology, chemistry and physics (unless, ironically, you're not a "college prep track" student and you take "earth science"). Grade school is your last chance to be taught astronomy and as it happens none of my teachers ever covered it. They taught us many other interesting things but science is a big field and you can't cover it all, or even all that's accessible to children.

    At age 37, with Comet Hyakutake wowing us all, I distinctly remember wondering, for the first time in my life, what accounts for the phases of the moon. And that I spent at least ten minutes making sketches before I figured it out. Prior to that, if you'd walked up to me with a microphone, I would have sounded just as "stupid" as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that's Harvard).

    I would have sounded just as “stupid” as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that’s Harvard).

    Exactly. It’s kind of funny to see the confidence they exude when giving an answer that is completely wrong.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The head lawyer at the marketing research firm where I worked had several stories about the advantages of a Harvard education. They mostly involved giving yourself a pep talk when a big negotiation was going badly that included the phrase "I am a Harvard man!" He said that "East of Suez," you could utter the phrase "I am a Harvard man" out loud with good results. The one place never ever to say that was Cambridge, MA, where homeless dudes might chime in with "Me too."
  173. @Hapalong Cassidy
    I always argued that it wasn't Florida that lost Gore the 2000 election; it was West Virginia. That state had gone blue every election except Reagan in '84 up to that point. Win that state, and Gore oesn't need Florida. It was primarily Gore's anti-gun stance which cost him West Virginia.

    West Virginia or Tennessee either one. Even Carter in 1980 and Mondale in 1984 won their home states against Reagan. Gore’s anti gun stance made sure he couldn’t carry his home state.

  174. @yaqub the mad scientist
    I don't know all the nuances of these groups, but the Messianic Judaism/Christian Zionism is huge in the South.

    An example: I taught at a high school with a large ROTC program. We had a Jewish faculty member whose son was in the Israeli army. He came and spoke to the ROTC kids, with approval from the instructors (two tour Vietnam vets). Several of them (mostly with Baptist or Pentacostal backgrounds) wanted to fight for Israel. They believed doctrinally that this was the right thing to do. These were 16 year old kids.

    “He came and spoke to the ROTC kids, with approval from the instructors (two tour Vietnam vets). Several of them (mostly with Baptist or Pentacostal backgrounds) wanted to fight for Israel. They believed doctrinally that this was the right thing to do.”

    For the ROTC instructors to permit their charges to be proslytzed on behalf of a foreign power – to the extent that they would want to fight for a foreign power – would seem to me to be a dereliction of duty. To indulgen them in the belief that they should fight for some other people not thier own is equally wrong. They should not be encouraging that.

  175. http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-stump-for-trump-duo-bring-down-the-house-at-candidates-nc-rally/

    OT–Steve wrote I think that Trump would do a lot better with blacks than most GOP candidates.
    I agree, the above a data point. (Wasn’t there a San Diego linebacking trio about twenty years ago who called themselves “border patrol”?)

  176. @Brás Cubas
    It seems I am wrong.

    Sorry for all the comings and goings, but I was right after all (apparently):

    http://www.jta.org/2015/12/04/default/messianic-san-bernandino-victim-was-gentile-supporter-of-israel-the-jewish-people

    Thanks, Steve (hope you’ll publish this one).

  177. Just one little thing about the Nicholas Thalasinos that makes him look nuts to me. I’ve never seen anyone put an American Flag pin through his collar anywhere let alone at his wedding. It suggests that he was rather expressive of his political views. Not a good reason to kill him or consider him equal to a killer, of course.

  178. @International Jew
    I think that's a bit unfair. High school science is all biology, chemistry and physics (unless, ironically, you're not a "college prep track" student and you take "earth science"). Grade school is your last chance to be taught astronomy and as it happens none of my teachers ever covered it. They taught us many other interesting things but science is a big field and you can't cover it all, or even all that's accessible to children.

    At age 37, with Comet Hyakutake wowing us all, I distinctly remember wondering, for the first time in my life, what accounts for the phases of the moon. And that I spent at least ten minutes making sketches before I figured it out. Prior to that, if you'd walked up to me with a microphone, I would have sounded just as "stupid" as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that's Harvard).

    No, it’s perfectly fair. What causes the changing of the seasons and the phases of the moon are two of the earliest questions that piqued man’s intellectual (and religious) curiosity. The fact that so many students are graduating from this nation’s preeminent university without having ever learned these simple answers is pretty damn depressing. It wouldn’t take one day’s instruction in a high school physics class to adequately explain both.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    I'm more inclined to give a pass to ignorance about the phases of the moon.

    But how do you not know about the explanation of the seasons? There are just too many facts that need to be explained by the tilt of the earth. It's not just the seasons, in the sense of temperature, it's also why the days get shorter and longer, why in the artic circle there are days in which the sun doesn't rise, why the rays of the sun are more oblique in the winter.

    How do these students explain these facts of which I'm sure they are perfectly aware?
    , @International Jew

    It wouldn’t take one day’s instruction in a high school physics class to adequately explain both.
     
    But you'd have to take that day. And it would come at the expense of something else.

    Lefties get very worked up about schools that don't teach evolution. Well, how bad is that? Where in life would ignorance of Darwin put you at a disadvantage? In fact, maybe it would be better for all if people thought their fellow man was made in God's image.
    And I say that as someone who fully accepts evolution (including the politically radioactive idea that it didn't take a vacation during the last 50,000 years).

    I think teaching kids something about quantum mechanics would be at least as worthwhile as teaching them evolution or astronomy. At its tiniest scale, the world is a weird weird place. And a surprising amount of quantum mechanics is intelligible without resort to any math — Richard Feynmann proved that with a few outstanding little books.

  179. @ATX Hipster
    A good chunk of English class every year I was in high school was devoted to black and feminist literature. A book I read in 10th grade put forward as plausible the idea that Jesus may have been black.

    “Jesus may have been black”: did they prefer that Judas stay white though?

  180. @Hapalong Cassidy
    I always argued that it wasn't Florida that lost Gore the 2000 election; it was West Virginia. That state had gone blue every election except Reagan in '84 up to that point. Win that state, and Gore oesn't need Florida. It was primarily Gore's anti-gun stance which cost him West Virginia.

    And Al Gore also lost his (supposed) home state of Tennessee in 2000. Gore would have won had he carried Tennessee. Florida wouldn’t have mattered.

    • Replies: @Flip
    I always thought Diebold had something to do with that.
  181. @Wilkey
    No, it's perfectly fair. What causes the changing of the seasons and the phases of the moon are two of the earliest questions that piqued man's intellectual (and religious) curiosity. The fact that so many students are graduating from this nation's preeminent university without having ever learned these simple answers is pretty damn depressing. It wouldn't take one day's instruction in a high school physics class to adequately explain both.

    I’m more inclined to give a pass to ignorance about the phases of the moon.

    But how do you not know about the explanation of the seasons? There are just too many facts that need to be explained by the tilt of the earth. It’s not just the seasons, in the sense of temperature, it’s also why the days get shorter and longer, why in the artic circle there are days in which the sun doesn’t rise, why the rays of the sun are more oblique in the winter.

    How do these students explain these facts of which I’m sure they are perfectly aware?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    There are just too many facts that need to be explained by the tilt of the earth. How do these [Harvard] students explain these facts of which I’m sure they are perfectly aware?

    Are they? Once you have the theory in mind you find that a lot of facts fit in with it, but plenty of urban people do fine in life without ever noticing connections between various facts. For example, in the 1980s-19902 I put a lot of effort into thinking about arbitraging golf course twilight time greens fees so that I could play expensive courses for a major discount and still have enough time to finish 18 holes before dark. My golf friends appreciated my ability to pick out twilight times for us that were a good deal from ones that were a bad deal, but weren't all that interested in my rhapsodizing about the general theory of the tilt of the earth and all the other phenomena that flowed from that.

    , @International Jew

    How do these students explain these facts of which I’m sure they are perfectly aware?
     
    These days, the safe answer to anything about the temperature, is CO2.
  182. @TangoMan
    They were two hate-filled, bigoted municipal employees interacting in one department. Now 13 innocent people are dead in unspeakable carnage.

    That quote is from the article. Look at it carefully. There were 14 killed in this terrorist attack. Linda Gestapo notes that only 13 innocent people lost their lives.

    That looks like a lawsuit against the NYDN, given the obvious implications.

  183. @jack ryan
    Wow that was vicious - a huge next step down, that the any "Conservative" victims of Islamic terrorism/mass murder are jet as bad, the same as the worst Islamic terrorists, slavers etc.

    Before this, I thought the worst it would get would by lying PC Leftists like Doonesbury's Gary Trudeau who insisted that the Algerian Islamic murderers of the French cartoonists and the Jewish shop keeper were just marginalized victims of racial discrimination who went Jihadist mass murderers because French/Western society didn't love them enough.

    Now the next horrible step down the lying PC Left descent to Dante's Infernal is to defame the dead Conservatives, say they are as bad as the worst Islamic mass murderers.

    Obviously the next step is to drop the pretence that killing conservatives is even wrong.

  184. @anon
    The important thing to know is that this tactic has worked every time it has been tried. The Left side of the bipartisan fusion party declares on some issue of morality like gay marriage and the right side of the party trembles.

    I don't know. The NRA actually seems to have been pretty on the ball with this one. They've always been the one group that has fought and won.

    Part of the reason is because all of the anti-gun people in the media own guns themselves. All of them. And they're not about to give them up.

    One of the best examples I've seen was when Ben Affleck was on Bill Maher's show, talking about gun control, and Maher just assumed that Affleck owned guns, and he admitted that he did. You could hear a sort of collective gasp from the audience.

    That's why it won't really work this time to just expel people from polite society.

    Anti-gun Sam Donaldson admitted he owns a handgun, and anti-gun columnist Carl Rowan was discovered to have owned a pistol when he shot someone with it, but pro-gun Pat Buchanan claims he doesn’t own one.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    So did the now-deceased New York Times' Arthur Ochs Sulzberger (He had a CCW permit.) and Dan Rather (I think I read that he carried a .357 Mag in country of Vietnam.)

    Pat Buchanan doesn't own a pistol? I recall years ago him alluding to a 'gun problem' so I don't know. But for damn sure he owns an AR-15 because he was given one which he displayed while running for President!

    , @WhatEvvs
    The publisher of the NY Times (Sulzberger, not Slim) is said to have a gun permit. I don't know if this is true or not.
  185. @a Newsreader
    It's Tom Wolfe's world. We're only living in it.

    When I heard about the stabbing in Art Basel yesterday, my first thought was that some bazillionaire had bought some invisible art before another could get their hands on it, a la Back To Blood.

  186. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Thalasinos was an ... anti-Islam ... kinda guy

     

    I think he should get points off on account of the fact that he was, ultimately, in the end, killed by a Muslim.

    I think he should get points off on account of the fact that he was, ultimately, in the end, killed by a Muslim.

    An honest paper would’ve run the headline: RIGHT-WING VICTIM’S OPINIONS VALIDATED.

    • Agree: Travis
  187. @Joe Stalin
    The Russian word "устрашение" translates to "deterrence" AND "intimidation."

    Right now, AR-15 prices are pretty much rock bottom, and have been because production has caught up with demand since Sandy Hook. The people who wanted one on the first wave are satiated, and bargains abound.

    Let's face it, every AR-15 purchased now represents a vote of "No Confidence" in the regime and it's power base, the MSM and Democrats. They fear the AR-15 because it represents the very same power they command via government edict.

    I urge everyone to buy one (at a minimum) and spit in Obama's eye.

    After you get one, I urge everyone to sign up for Project Appleseed marksmanship training where you will learn how to properly shoot a semi-automatic rifle. (RWVA.org - Revolutionary War Veteran's Association) Learn how to make hits on a 400 yard target with a rack grade rifle and open sights. Google "Project Appleseed" for youtube videos.

    And for folks who don’t want to be on the blacklists of unz readers AND registered gun owners, they can purchase 80% lowers without any paperwork involved.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    And don't forget the "Iron Glock" where you construct the frame from pieces of sheet metal.

    http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/214022-Iron-Glock

    Other people have constructed AR-15 frames by melting slabs of plastic and fusing them together.

    Check youtube.

    And don't forget, you can convert your Glock to a selective fire machine pistol by replacing the rear slide plate. Just google for images of "Glock auto sear."
  188. @Harry Baldwin
    Anti-gun Sam Donaldson admitted he owns a handgun, and anti-gun columnist Carl Rowan was discovered to have owned a pistol when he shot someone with it, but pro-gun Pat Buchanan claims he doesn't own one.

    So did the now-deceased New York Times’ Arthur Ochs Sulzberger (He had a CCW permit.) and Dan Rather (I think I read that he carried a .357 Mag in country of Vietnam.)

    Pat Buchanan doesn’t own a pistol? I recall years ago him alluding to a ‘gun problem’ so I don’t know. But for damn sure he owns an AR-15 because he was given one which he displayed while running for President!

  189. @Hail

    the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.
     
    Except that it still controls the vast, decentralized apparatus for socializing the young. New recruits. It works on most.

    One example. When did children start being earnestly indoctrinated into the cult of "Dr. King"? Late 1970s in the Bluest areas, lagging in more moderate areas and then still firmly opposed in red areas, but in the end the cult won out by the early or mid 1990s even in the "reddest" areas...something like that. Thus most of those under 40 today, and all of those under 30, were subject to this indoctrination from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man, even most self-described "strong conservatives".

    Thus most of those under 40 … were subject to this indoctrination [about MLK] from kindergarten onward. And today an enormous monument to that man stands in Washington. You will meet only few Whites today who do not profess to adore the man …

    Entirely correct. I remember hearing for the first time about his plagiarism charges and being scandalized—I’m mid-thirties—and uncomfortable with the person who told me. (Actual blasphemy, on the other hand, tellingly elicited no response.)

    Learning the truth about that guy is powerful. Same thing with Mandela.

  190. @Diversity Heretic
    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate; Year of the Cat remains one of my favorites.

    Yeah, I heard Year of the Cat in McDonalds this morning and it still sounded great, even though it is almost 40 years old.

    • Replies: @el topo
    I'm a big fan of "Time Passages" myself. So hazily beautiful, so 70s shag-carpet cheesy in the best possible way.
  191. @Bugg
    BIG BUT. So a free and open exchange of ideas and opinions is now not only forbidden but grounds to murder people while shooting up the Christmas party. Ms. Stasi is now saying essentially that Mr. Thalasinos' views justified his murder. Remarkable for someone who's employment relies on the 1st Amendment. And if you do not agree with her you're hateful bigot who deserve getting murdered.

    Its the Attack Of The Brain Dead Vicious White Bitches!!! They’re everywhere!

  192. @Big Bill
    I agree with what Lot says. But the "random customs" are not a triviality, but the core of the problem. Messianic Jews are a major psychic threat to your typical, 90% assimilated Western Jew precisely because of those "random customs".

    Most Jews, like most Western Christians, are not particularly devout. Their Judaism rests in familiar songs, familiar food, familiar rituals, familiar liturgy, and familiar dress: the lighting of candles, the dreidel, the kippah, the tallit, the Hebrew prayers, attending services a couple times a year.

    Imagine you could keep all those things, (along with the belief that you are still "chosen" by God and therefore special) but align yourself a bit closer to the dominant Christian culture by professing to believe Jesus was the Messiah.

    The incredible seductiveness is that everything would "feel" pretty much the same. Heck, if your kids became "Messianic" you might not even know when they came home for Passover. The prayers, the kippah, the dreidel, the food, the songs, everything would be the same.

    But what about THEIR kids? Given the dominating position of Christian culture in the West, it is a tiny, almost imperceptible next step to marrying a Christian, or attending a generic Christian church. And then they are gone forever.

    I know Buddhist Jews, agnostic Jews, even atheist Jews. None of them freak out their parents or fellow Jews. Think about it. How strange that a Jew who denies the very existence of God Almighty in ANY form whatsoever is much less of a threat to your typical half-assimilated Jew than a Jew who believes Jesus is the Messiah. Why? Because the atheist Jew will still partake in ritual Jewish life and will marry a Jew. He may be a "draft dodger" (so to speak) but at least he has not "gone over to the enemy's camp".

    Heck, most Jews aren't even bothered by the Lubavitcher Jews who say Rabbi Schneerson is the Messiah. Why? The chance that a liberal Jewish kid would go "full Lubavitch" are pretty damn slim (and even if they did, they would still breed race pure). In contrast to Lubavitch Messianists, however, being dissolved into generic, thoughtless, workaday Christianity is incredibly easy, given that their kids are surrounded by Christians and share their values, culture and decadence.

    Think of Messianic Jews as a "gateway drug" for half-assimilated Jews (aka "neo-Christians" as Rabbi Tendler calls them) and you can understand their tremendous anxiety and fear.

    See e.g. http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/27/local/me-36790

    Reform, agnostic and atheist Jews marry out at high rates these days. And dreidels are Hanukkah-specific. They have nothing to do with Passover.

  193. Deserves it for being right?

  194. @Big Bill
    Messianic Jews are Jewish apostates. Well, not really "apostates" since there is no Pope of the Jews to decide "who's a Jew". But since his mother is/was a Jew, the dead guy is a Jew (albeit misguided) for at least 90% of Jews on Earth.

    In other news, another bunch of Torah-true, Shabbos-obedient,"Messianic" Jews (Chabad/Lubavitchers) have started a new ad campaign to get Palestinians to follow the seven Noachide Laws (the Jewish laws for Gentiles) and to recognize deceased Rabbi Schneerson as the Messiah.

    See http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2015/12/chabad-launches-special-mitzvah-campaign-for-palestinians-promoting-7-laws-of-noah-dead-rebbe-as-mes-678.html

    Only some of the Lubavitchers think that the late rebbe Schneersohn was the messiah.

  195. Border Fence fail:

    200 Africans illegally enter Israel over fence
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4735534,00.html

    Free market at work: Smugglers charge some $3,000 for Europe, and only $600-$1,500 to Israel

    Deportation fail:

    Pakistan blocks 30 migrants deported from Greece
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35003261

  196. @Joe Stalin
    Speaking of Zuckerman, the latest Guns & Ammo (1/16) editorial talks about how "The Guns & Ammo Facebook page has been flagged for falling under 'Promoting the Private Sale of Guns."

    Also, he, Eric R. Poole, said typing "Guns And Ammo Facebook" into Google resulted in "Nothing!"

    So, the gun controllers are slowly trying to dry up access to pro-gun ideas on the Internet.

    Mr. Poole asks: "What are we going to do about it? Email me your thoughts at [email protected]"

    Mort Zuckerman (owner of the NY Daily News) is not the same person as Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    Mort Zuckerman (owner of the NY Daily News) is not the same person as Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook).

     

    Hey! Who aksed you, motherzucker?
    , @Joe Stalin
    Oh, damn it! I mistook one billionaire gun controller for another billionaire gun controller. Zuckerman pushes his gun control on "The McLaughlin Group" and Zuckerberg wants to flood us with zillions of foreigners. Come to think of it, there's not much difference politically between them!
  197. @Clifford Brown
    It's hard to believe that such piss-poor writing and irrational rhetoric is published in a major American newspaper. Also weird because The Daily News, while ostensibly Liberal, is traditionally "Liberal" in the way Middle Village, Queens is "Liberal". Basically, the Daily News is for traditional conservative Democrats who are not the rabid Right Wingers who read the Post, but too Middle Brow for the New York Times. Basically, Democrats who supported Guiliani.

    This article in contrast is full-on HuffPo/ Gawker in tone. Perhaps, the Daily News has decided to "Lean In" like MSNBC did a few years back. We'll see how that works out for them.

    The level of vitriol towards the victim who was a Messianic Jew on Twitter was rather shocking. John Podhoretz was particularly upset by Nicholas Thalasinos' religious affiliation, but even John Podhoretz, who contributes a weekly "BOMB IRAN NOW" opinion column for the Daily News, was disgusted by Stasi's article. Hopefully, other sensible voices push back in this direction.

    Podhoretz’s columns appear in the NYPost.

  198. Christopher Hitchens was certainly right about religion being the root of all evil.

    It is a pity, because there are a lot of good things about religion like providing schools and hospitals and activities for families, musical education, great art, fine architecture, wonderful music, suitable ceremonies for marriages and funerals, and so on, but once people start taking religious dogma seriously there will always be those who become obsessed with it and lose their minds.

    No, wine is not literally converted into human blood. No, there is no life after death. No, God is not great and even if he was, he should have no role in the government of nations.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    No, wine is not literally converted into human blood. No, there is no life after death. No, God is not great and even if he was, he should have no role in the government of nations.
     
    You sound awfully, uh, dogmatic in your assertions. Almost as if you had some occult insight into those subjects that have vexed and perplexed millions of other humans beings—including people like Isaac Newton and Georges Lemaître— throughout history.

    It's never sufficient to say that you personally don't believe in those things, is it?
    , @Tracy

    Christopher Hitchens was certainly right about religion being the root of all evil.

    It is a pity, because there are a lot of good things about religion like providing schools and hospitals and activities for families, musical education, great art, fine architecture, wonderful music, suitable ceremonies for marriages and funerals, and so on, but once people start taking religious dogma seriously there will always be those who become obsessed with it and lose their minds.

    No, wine is not literally converted into human blood. No, there is no life after death. No, God is not great and even if he was, he should have no role in the government of nations.
     
    Ohhhh, so they're all alike, are they? Islam is Christianity is the Old Testament religion is Judaism is Buddhism and so on like that? You just listed a huge list of things that are great about Christianity, and you could add science (it was a Franciscan monk who even came up with the scientific method) -- but haven't seemed to notice that those things didn't come from Islam or post-Temple Judaism, etc.

    Why have you totally overlooked the evils done in the name of atheism? Do the names Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot ring a bell? Care to add up the number of people they killed and try to find any remotely similar number when it comes to Christianity? And care to find any Christians-caused slaughter that was condoned by Christian authority and by the religion itself (unlike Islam, which does condone slaughter, or post-Temple Judaism which is as racist as it gets, etc.)?

    And what evils are you thinking of when it comes to traditional, classic (not Protestant) Christianity? The defensive wars called the Crusades -- those wars which, if they'd not been fought, would have you living under Shariah law right now? The Spanish Inquisition that everyone thinks they know about, with very few having an actual clue? (see this video and this URL for some info)

    Catholicism and Orthodoxy don't teach that wine is "literally" converted to human blood; they teach that the wine becomes the Blood of Christ in terms of substance, not in terms of accidents. We know the priest isn't consuming corpuscles, for ex.

    And yes, there is life after death, and God is great. And without Him having a role in shaping a nation's views of the True, Good, and Beautiful (as determined by Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium, the same forces that shaped Western Civilization for almost 2,000 years), whose views of those should we base our laws on? Yours?
  199. @Big Bill
    I agree with what Lot says. But the "random customs" are not a triviality, but the core of the problem. Messianic Jews are a major psychic threat to your typical, 90% assimilated Western Jew precisely because of those "random customs".

    Most Jews, like most Western Christians, are not particularly devout. Their Judaism rests in familiar songs, familiar food, familiar rituals, familiar liturgy, and familiar dress: the lighting of candles, the dreidel, the kippah, the tallit, the Hebrew prayers, attending services a couple times a year.

    Imagine you could keep all those things, (along with the belief that you are still "chosen" by God and therefore special) but align yourself a bit closer to the dominant Christian culture by professing to believe Jesus was the Messiah.

    The incredible seductiveness is that everything would "feel" pretty much the same. Heck, if your kids became "Messianic" you might not even know when they came home for Passover. The prayers, the kippah, the dreidel, the food, the songs, everything would be the same.

    But what about THEIR kids? Given the dominating position of Christian culture in the West, it is a tiny, almost imperceptible next step to marrying a Christian, or attending a generic Christian church. And then they are gone forever.

    I know Buddhist Jews, agnostic Jews, even atheist Jews. None of them freak out their parents or fellow Jews. Think about it. How strange that a Jew who denies the very existence of God Almighty in ANY form whatsoever is much less of a threat to your typical half-assimilated Jew than a Jew who believes Jesus is the Messiah. Why? Because the atheist Jew will still partake in ritual Jewish life and will marry a Jew. He may be a "draft dodger" (so to speak) but at least he has not "gone over to the enemy's camp".

    Heck, most Jews aren't even bothered by the Lubavitcher Jews who say Rabbi Schneerson is the Messiah. Why? The chance that a liberal Jewish kid would go "full Lubavitch" are pretty damn slim (and even if they did, they would still breed race pure). In contrast to Lubavitch Messianists, however, being dissolved into generic, thoughtless, workaday Christianity is incredibly easy, given that their kids are surrounded by Christians and share their values, culture and decadence.

    Think of Messianic Jews as a "gateway drug" for half-assimilated Jews (aka "neo-Christians" as Rabbi Tendler calls them) and you can understand their tremendous anxiety and fear.

    See e.g. http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/27/local/me-36790

    Seems that you, me, and International Jew here all disagree with the wikipedia definition of Messianic Jew which seems to reserve the term for someone goes to a quasi-Jewish Christian church. I had no idea there were so many of these churchs, 300+ in the USA and 100+ in Israel.

    That is not at all how the term was used where I grew up, where there were far too few Jews to form a congregation of evangelical converts.

    Imagine you could keep all those things, (along with the belief that you are still “chosen” by God and therefore special) but align yourself a bit closer to the dominant Christian culture by professing to believe Jesus was the Messiah.

    The conversos in my family all went Lutheran or Catholic and had no desire to keep any Jewish customs other than a mild marriage preference for fellow assimilated Ashkenazi, whether practicing Jews, fellow conversos, or baptized at birth half breeds.

    My experience with evangelical Christianity is mostly going to bible camp with my best friend several summers in a row. I did not particularly want to go the first year since it involved waking up early in the summer, but my mother announced I was going after talking with his mother and I enjoyed it.

  200. @ATX Hipster
    A good chunk of English class every year I was in high school was devoted to black and feminist literature. A book I read in 10th grade put forward as plausible the idea that Jesus may have been black.

    A good chunk of English class every year I was in high school was devoted to black and feminist literature.

    We had a generic diversity English textbook, so we read quite a few stories about hispanic children in the Southwest even though the entire high school did not have a single hispanic student. Or any asians for that matter. One that was particularly alarming involved a Mexican-American boy who witnessed a rat bite off the ear of his infant brother.

  201. @Dave Pinsen
    See also this article in the FT:

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/673305208500436992

    With 13 regions up for grabs, the FN could come first in six of them in the first round with 30 per cent of the votes nationally, a recent Ipsos/Steria survey suggests. This could translate into victory in one or two regions in the second round — a first for the party.

    Maybe FN will do even better! There is no doubt there is a shy Tory effect going on with these polls, the question is how much. How many people are willing to say they are going to vote for someone who is being prosecuted for “hate speech” by the government in a country where the government employs 1/3 of the population?

    The party that attracts the biggest share of the vote in the second round automatically gets a quarter of the seats in the regional council to add to its tally.

    So for Calais/Nord, FN is polling 40% in the first round, and maybe will get up to 42% after minor parties are eliminated. They will then have a 67% share of the regional assembly.

    I don’t see how, with the bonus, FN won’t do better than 1 or 2 regions. They poll 30% overall and are, right now, just barely the largest party. How can you be the largest party nationwide, and a bonus is given to the largest party, and only take 2 of 13 regions? All they need to do is both come in first and do better than 25% of the vote to win a region.

  202. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Brás Cubas
    It seems I am wrong.

    Where did you find out you were wrong? Thalasinos struck me as an ethnic Greek who picked up some customs, et voila, Messianic Jew. I know about Jews for Jesus but I thought he wasn’t one.

    BTW, Ms. Stasi tweeted about this particular column no less than five times.

  203. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Anti-gun Sam Donaldson admitted he owns a handgun, and anti-gun columnist Carl Rowan was discovered to have owned a pistol when he shot someone with it, but pro-gun Pat Buchanan claims he doesn't own one.

    The publisher of the NY Times (Sulzberger, not Slim) is said to have a gun permit. I don’t know if this is true or not.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I wrote a column mentioning concealed carry permits in NYC as of a decade+ ago:

    "A 2002 Newsday article reported that private citizens licensed to pack heat on the streets of Manhattan included Robert De Niro, Harvey Keitel, Howard Stern, Donald Trump, Steven Seagal, William F. Buckley, Chazz Palminteri, Winthrop Rockefeller, Don Imus, and Buddy Hackett."

    http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_whites_steve_sailer/print#ixzz3taEkc0a7

    A fairly rightist tilt to this list of NYC celebrities.

    Don't know about Sulzberger.

  204. Serious question. …what are the odds of this incident happening while coincidentally an active shooter drill was taking place nearby?

    • Replies: @anon
    In order to know that, we'd have to know a) how often they do active shooter drills, and b) how near counts as "nearby".

    Do you know?
  205. So according to the Stasi (amazing!), this Coulter-liking victim was just as bad as the perps…This demented expression of modern leftism could stir some rather primitive emotions in some relatives of the victim, I believe..

  206. @WhatEvvs
    The publisher of the NY Times (Sulzberger, not Slim) is said to have a gun permit. I don't know if this is true or not.

    I wrote a column mentioning concealed carry permits in NYC as of a decade+ ago:

    “A 2002 Newsday article reported that private citizens licensed to pack heat on the streets of Manhattan included Robert De Niro, Harvey Keitel, Howard Stern, Donald Trump, Steven Seagal, William F. Buckley, Chazz Palminteri, Winthrop Rockefeller, Don Imus, and Buddy Hackett.”

    http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_whites_steve_sailer/print#ixzz3taEkc0a7

    A fairly rightist tilt to this list of NYC celebrities.

    Don’t know about Sulzberger.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    OK, I looked it up. If NNDB is to be believed:

    http://www.nndb.com/people/638/000024566/

    But they could be referencing the Newsday article.
  207. @Hippopotamusdrome


    rabidly anti-Planned Parenthood kinda guy

     

    It's no longer good enough to merely not want abortion to be banned. You need to support state funding of PP and free abortion.

    …You need to support state funding of PP and free abortion.

    What percentage of babies aborted by PP are white? Free birth control and first trimester abortion is not all bad. It’s the unborn white babies that I care about.

  208. @candid_observer
    I'm more inclined to give a pass to ignorance about the phases of the moon.

    But how do you not know about the explanation of the seasons? There are just too many facts that need to be explained by the tilt of the earth. It's not just the seasons, in the sense of temperature, it's also why the days get shorter and longer, why in the artic circle there are days in which the sun doesn't rise, why the rays of the sun are more oblique in the winter.

    How do these students explain these facts of which I'm sure they are perfectly aware?

    There are just too many facts that need to be explained by the tilt of the earth. How do these [Harvard] students explain these facts of which I’m sure they are perfectly aware?

    Are they? Once you have the theory in mind you find that a lot of facts fit in with it, but plenty of urban people do fine in life without ever noticing connections between various facts. For example, in the 1980s-19902 I put a lot of effort into thinking about arbitraging golf course twilight time greens fees so that I could play expensive courses for a major discount and still have enough time to finish 18 holes before dark. My golf friends appreciated my ability to pick out twilight times for us that were a good deal from ones that were a bad deal, but weren’t all that interested in my rhapsodizing about the general theory of the tilt of the earth and all the other phenomena that flowed from that.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Here is an addition to your twilight musings. Find golf courses that are in bankruptcy. They need to keep the greens, etc in good condition, so should remain playable. One upside is that you won't have much competition for tee times throughout the day.

    If you don't mind a bit of heat, try some Coachella Valley courses during the summer. If you get too warm, you can always spend some time retrieving balls in the water hazards, but watch out for the leeches! Who said there wasn't much wildlife in California?
  209. @L7's
    Serious question. ...what are the odds of this incident happening while coincidentally an active shooter drill was taking place nearby?

    In order to know that, we’d have to know a) how often they do active shooter drills, and b) how near counts as “nearby”.

    Do you know?

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    In order to know that, we’d have to know a) how often they do active shooter drills, and b) how near counts as “nearby”.

    Do you know?
     

    You'd think those factors would be relevant, but another way of looking at it prompts another question: How often do Muslim mass murders coincide with active shooter (or active bomber or active airline hijacking drills)? And the answer is "surprisingly often". It happened on both 9/11/01 in the US and 7/7 in London.
  210. @Anonymous
    I would have sounded just as “stupid” as those Harvard grads (though I would have delivered my misconceptions with less confidence, but that’s Harvard).

    Exactly. It's kind of funny to see the confidence they exude when giving an answer that is completely wrong.

    The head lawyer at the marketing research firm where I worked had several stories about the advantages of a Harvard education. They mostly involved giving yourself a pep talk when a big negotiation was going badly that included the phrase “I am a Harvard man!” He said that “East of Suez,” you could utter the phrase “I am a Harvard man” out loud with good results. The one place never ever to say that was Cambridge, MA, where homeless dudes might chime in with “Me too.”

  211. @Big Bill
    I agree with what Lot says. But the "random customs" are not a triviality, but the core of the problem. Messianic Jews are a major psychic threat to your typical, 90% assimilated Western Jew precisely because of those "random customs".

    Most Jews, like most Western Christians, are not particularly devout. Their Judaism rests in familiar songs, familiar food, familiar rituals, familiar liturgy, and familiar dress: the lighting of candles, the dreidel, the kippah, the tallit, the Hebrew prayers, attending services a couple times a year.

    Imagine you could keep all those things, (along with the belief that you are still "chosen" by God and therefore special) but align yourself a bit closer to the dominant Christian culture by professing to believe Jesus was the Messiah.

    The incredible seductiveness is that everything would "feel" pretty much the same. Heck, if your kids became "Messianic" you might not even know when they came home for Passover. The prayers, the kippah, the dreidel, the food, the songs, everything would be the same.

    But what about THEIR kids? Given the dominating position of Christian culture in the West, it is a tiny, almost imperceptible next step to marrying a Christian, or attending a generic Christian church. And then they are gone forever.

    I know Buddhist Jews, agnostic Jews, even atheist Jews. None of them freak out their parents or fellow Jews. Think about it. How strange that a Jew who denies the very existence of God Almighty in ANY form whatsoever is much less of a threat to your typical half-assimilated Jew than a Jew who believes Jesus is the Messiah. Why? Because the atheist Jew will still partake in ritual Jewish life and will marry a Jew. He may be a "draft dodger" (so to speak) but at least he has not "gone over to the enemy's camp".

    Heck, most Jews aren't even bothered by the Lubavitcher Jews who say Rabbi Schneerson is the Messiah. Why? The chance that a liberal Jewish kid would go "full Lubavitch" are pretty damn slim (and even if they did, they would still breed race pure). In contrast to Lubavitch Messianists, however, being dissolved into generic, thoughtless, workaday Christianity is incredibly easy, given that their kids are surrounded by Christians and share their values, culture and decadence.

    Think of Messianic Jews as a "gateway drug" for half-assimilated Jews (aka "neo-Christians" as Rabbi Tendler calls them) and you can understand their tremendous anxiety and fear.

    See e.g. http://articles.latimes.com/1997/sep/27/local/me-36790

    If it was about racial purity – there wouldn’t be a 70% intermarriage rate. That’s not the reason.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    If it was about racial purity – there wouldn’t be a 70% intermarriage rate. That’s not the reason.
     
    What's the intermarriage rate in Israel?
  212. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @yaqub the mad scientist
    Liberals though are losing on guns and immigration and it’s funny watching them lash out.

    They are?

    Yes they are losing, and losing badly.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/24/what-americans-want-to-do-about-illegal-immigration/

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/29/gallup-poll-only-seven-percent-of-americans-want-more-immigration/

    More Americans said they had a favorable opinion of North Korea (11 percent) than wanted to than wanted to increase immigration (7 percent). The poll data are overwhelming; politicians will disregard public opinion on this issue at their peril: Remember RINO Eric Cantor and how he lost the primary to David Brat? (Cantor was denying the border was being overrun as the media was showing human waves over taking it during the two weeks before the election)

    * Gallup (1/29/15): By a more than 5-to-1 margin (39% vs. 7%), Americans who are dissatisfied with current immigration levels want less rather than more

    * Pew (2012): 69% say we should “restrict and control people coming to live in our country more than we do now” (including 59% of Hispanics)

    * Reuters (8/7/14): By a nearly 3-to-1 margin (45% vs. 17%), Americans think immigration rates should be reduced, not increased

    * Princeton Survey Research Associates (6/23/13): 61% say that there “should be restrictions” on the number of STEM-related foreign workers allowed to enter the U.S.

    * Gallup (6/8/14): By a 2-to-1 margin (41% vs. 22%), Americans think immigration should be decreased rather than increased

    * The Polling Company (8/14/14): By a staggering 10-to-1 margin (75% vs. 8%), Americans believe that a business seeking workers should raise wages and improve working conditions before hiring new labor from abroad

    Why do you think Trump is leading by so great a margin.

    They are losing badly, soon the voter importation pipeline will be cut and their illegals sent home…..

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    They are losing badly, soon the voter importation pipeline will be cut and their illegals sent home…..

     

    Polling poorly is not the same as losing. Being removed from office is losing.
  213. @Jonathan Mason
    Christopher Hitchens was certainly right about religion being the root of all evil.

    It is a pity, because there are a lot of good things about religion like providing schools and hospitals and activities for families, musical education, great art, fine architecture, wonderful music, suitable ceremonies for marriages and funerals, and so on, but once people start taking religious dogma seriously there will always be those who become obsessed with it and lose their minds.

    No, wine is not literally converted into human blood. No, there is no life after death. No, God is not great and even if he was, he should have no role in the government of nations.

    No, wine is not literally converted into human blood. No, there is no life after death. No, God is not great and even if he was, he should have no role in the government of nations.

    You sound awfully, uh, dogmatic in your assertions. Almost as if you had some occult insight into those subjects that have vexed and perplexed millions of other humans beings—including people like Isaac Newton and Georges Lemaître— throughout history.

    It’s never sufficient to say that you personally don’t believe in those things, is it?

  214. @Dave Pinsen
    In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early '80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.

    In my mostly-black elementary school, in the early ’80s, we put on a play about civil rights, and I played the bus driver who called the cops on Rosa Parks.

    In my deep south high school of the late 1970s, I played on the basketball team with 10 blacks. Once during an away game at an all black school, each time I went to the free throw line the crowd chanted “two, four, six, eight, nine, get that honkey off the line!” True story.

  215. @David In TN
    And Al Gore also lost his (supposed) home state of Tennessee in 2000. Gore would have won had he carried Tennessee. Florida wouldn't have mattered.

    I always thought Diebold had something to do with that.

  216. If it was about racial purity – there wouldn’t be a 70% intermarriage rate. That’s not the reason.

    Science is independently verifiable, right? Is the 70% figure?

    And if the data’s open, how come we still don’t know how many Jews marry blacks? I’ve been wanting to know for years (and baiting Jews into finding out for me that whole time, by claiming they don’t marry blacks because racist).

    And for folks who don’t want to be on the blacklists of unz readers AND registered gun owners, they can purchase 80% lowers without any paperwork involved.

    Private sales are a lot less hassle.

  217. @Anon
    Free tuition for blacks students isn't going anything. If the blacks are getting in free because of the color of their skin, some smart white student will show up with a lawyer and say, "Charging me full tuition because of the color of my skin is discrimination. I want 10 million. Pay up."

    There are a lot of white students facing a ton of debt. They'll be really, really angry if blacks pay no tuition while they themselves have to shoulder the entire burden. Trust me, this is an explosive legal issue. White students will be in an uproar once they think the matter through and smarten up. What's the best way to to through college, after all? Pile on debt, or win enough money out of your school in a settlement so big that you'll never have to work again? Obviously, you hire a lawyer and win the lottery.

    Colleges will have to dig deeply into their endowments to pay for both blacks who want free tuition as well as pay damages to the huge numbers of white students who will be suing the crap out of them. Those schools will go bust. No way will any college open this can of worms.

    Colleges will have to dig deeply into their endowments to pay for both blacks who want free tuition as well as pay damages to the huge numbers of white students who will be suing the crap out of them. Those schools will go bust. No way will any college open this can of worms.

    I’m pretty sure a lot of schools have been doing something close to this for decades.

  218. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I wrote a column mentioning concealed carry permits in NYC as of a decade+ ago:

    "A 2002 Newsday article reported that private citizens licensed to pack heat on the streets of Manhattan included Robert De Niro, Harvey Keitel, Howard Stern, Donald Trump, Steven Seagal, William F. Buckley, Chazz Palminteri, Winthrop Rockefeller, Don Imus, and Buddy Hackett."

    http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_whites_steve_sailer/print#ixzz3taEkc0a7

    A fairly rightist tilt to this list of NYC celebrities.

    Don't know about Sulzberger.

    OK, I looked it up. If NNDB is to be believed:

    http://www.nndb.com/people/638/000024566/

    But they could be referencing the Newsday article.

  219. @David In TN
    And South Carolina's "conservative" voters reelect Graham every time.

    And South Carolina’s “conservative” voters reelect Graham every time.

    They’re not interested in politics.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    'They're not interested in politics."

    Basically true. Self-described "conservatives" in a state like South Carolina like to think everything is just fine, and to be told that.

  220. @Diversity Heretic
    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate; Year of the Cat remains one of my favorites.

    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate…

    He’s lived in California since the late ’70s, and has a place in Napa Valley. He was the first rock-star œnophile, and calls himself the victim of “a great red wine conspiracy”.

    A sense of humor, too!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    Oops… I meant "vast".

    Gotta brush up my RodhamClinton.
    , @ben tillman

    He’s lived in California since the late ’70s, and has a place in Napa Valley. He was the first rock-star œnophile, and calls himself the victim of “a great red wine conspiracy”.

    A sense of humor, too!
     

    It's rare, and an amazing treat, to discover a true 1960's classic that one was unaware of for all these decades, but I did that last year with Love Chronicles. I loved Year of the Cat and On the Border as a kid, but I had no idea what he had done earlier.
  221. @Anonymous
    Mort Zuckerman (owner of the NY Daily News) is not the same person as Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook).

    Mort Zuckerman (owner of the NY Daily News) is not the same person as Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook).

    Hey! Who aksed you, motherzucker?

  222. @Reg Cæsar

    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate...
     
    He's lived in California since the late '70s, and has a place in Napa Valley. He was the first rock-star œnophile, and calls himself the victim of "a great red wine conspiracy".

    A sense of humor, too!

    Oops… I meant “vast”.

    Gotta brush up my RodhamClinton.

  223. @Wilkey
    No, Messianic Judaism is its own denomination (or family of denominations) and they have their own congregations and retain a lot of the language and customs of Judaism. In America they seem to be pretty well dispersed across the country and are by no means confined to, or even disproportionate to, the South.

    There are even about 100 Messianic Jewish congregations in Israel. Yeah, Jews who become Baptists, Mormons, etc., are sometimes treated like rock stars, but they aren't Messianic Jews.

    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    In the USA typically moving from Christian to Jewish. In Israel the opposite.
    , @Tracy

    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?
     
    I know you were asking Wilkey this question, but I've got an answer for you: they're typically Jews who come to have faith in Christ. But the way many Evangelicals are -- not having tradition, craving a sense of heritage, but poisoned against Catholicism, seemingly unaware of the very existence of Orthodoxy, and brainwashed with Dispensationalist heresy -- they're sort of the same thing really. Protestants wearing prayer shawls, calling Jesus "Yeshua," blowing shofars -- drives me nuts.
    , @Wilkey
    No idea. I don't believe I've ever knowingly met a Messianic Jew. My chief claim to expertise on the subject is that for about 2 years I lived about 2 blocks from a Messianic Jewish congregation, and that I once read the better part of a Wikipedia article on the subject. Good ole reliable Wikipedia seems to suggest it' s about 50/50, and a visit to one MJ site tells me that most of the rabbis have typical Jewish surnames. I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of the couples at MJ congregations started out as interfaith and found Messianic Judaism an acceptable compromise.

    The term "Messianic Jew" certainly seems as if it could be some sort of generic term for Jews who have converted to Catholicism, Methodism, or whatever, but it isn't.
  224. @anon
    In order to know that, we'd have to know a) how often they do active shooter drills, and b) how near counts as "nearby".

    Do you know?

    In order to know that, we’d have to know a) how often they do active shooter drills, and b) how near counts as “nearby”.

    Do you know?

    You’d think those factors would be relevant, but another way of looking at it prompts another question: How often do Muslim mass murders coincide with active shooter (or active bomber or active airline hijacking drills)? And the answer is “surprisingly often”. It happened on both 9/11/01 in the US and 7/7 in London.

  225. @Reg Cæsar

    Another Al Stewart fan! I think that his songs are first rate...
     
    He's lived in California since the late '70s, and has a place in Napa Valley. He was the first rock-star œnophile, and calls himself the victim of "a great red wine conspiracy".

    A sense of humor, too!

    He’s lived in California since the late ’70s, and has a place in Napa Valley. He was the first rock-star œnophile, and calls himself the victim of “a great red wine conspiracy”.

    A sense of humor, too!

    It’s rare, and an amazing treat, to discover a true 1960’s classic that one was unaware of for all these decades, but I did that last year with Love Chronicles. I loved Year of the Cat and On the Border as a kid, but I had no idea what he had done earlier.

  226. @Evocatus
    Fun Fact. Mizz Stasi is married to Sid Davidoff, formerly the body man for liberal WASP mayor John Lindsay. Davidoff had some notable run ins with New York's outer borough white ethnics, who were not to fond of Mr. Lindsay's patrician style proto-SJWism. He once almost got into a fistfight with Mike Long, future chairman of the New York State Conservative Party and he beat up a young Conservative Party activist named George Marlin, who was handing out campaign literature for William F. Buckley during his run for mayor in 1965. Marlin would be the Conservative parties candidate for mayor in 1993 againstDavid Dinkins and Rudy Giuliani.

    Marlin also wrote the party’s history. It’s worth reading, but watch the anti-nativist speed bump at the opening. The CPNYS is primarily an outer-borough pissed-off ethnics’ party, whether they like it or not.

  227. @gcochran
    If it was about racial purity - there wouldn't be a 70% intermarriage rate. That's not the reason.

    If it was about racial purity – there wouldn’t be a 70% intermarriage rate. That’s not the reason.

    What’s the intermarriage rate in Israel?

    • Replies: @Discordiax

    What’s the intermarriage rate in Israel?
     
    Selection effect there. The Jews who are concerned with the survival of "the Jews" have largely moved to Israel. The ones who remain are almost as subject to Jewish ethnomasochism as they are to white ethnomasochism. Certainly enough that criticizing intermarriage excites at least limited crimestop.
    , @Anonymous
    A high percentage of the non-Jews in Israel are Muslim Arabs whom it would be dangerous for Jews to marry. The Orthodox rabbinate also has control of marriage among Jews in Israel and refuses to marry Jews and non-Jews, including those of partial Jewish ancestry. Couples of that nature must travel elswhere to marry, a barrier (cost, hassle) that probably limits intermarriage to some degree. The Orthodox rabbinate has no such power over secular or Reform Jews in the United States.
    , @ogunsiron
    From what I can see, the jewish people goes through short burts of intense mixing with non jews, followed by centuries of endogamy.
    We seem to be living through one of those burts of mixing with non-jews, outside of israel itself.
  228. @Anonymous
    Yes they are losing, and losing badly.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/08/24/what-americans-want-to-do-about-illegal-immigration/

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/29/gallup-poll-only-seven-percent-of-americans-want-more-immigration/

    More Americans said they had a favorable opinion of North Korea (11 percent) than wanted to than wanted to increase immigration (7 percent). The poll data are overwhelming; politicians will disregard public opinion on this issue at their peril: Remember RINO Eric Cantor and how he lost the primary to David Brat? (Cantor was denying the border was being overrun as the media was showing human waves over taking it during the two weeks before the election)

    * Gallup (1/29/15): By a more than 5-to-1 margin (39% vs. 7%), Americans who are dissatisfied with current immigration levels want less rather than more

    * Pew (2012): 69% say we should “restrict and control people coming to live in our country more than we do now” (including 59% of Hispanics)

    * Reuters (8/7/14): By a nearly 3-to-1 margin (45% vs. 17%), Americans think immigration rates should be reduced, not increased

    * Princeton Survey Research Associates (6/23/13): 61% say that there “should be restrictions” on the number of STEM-related foreign workers allowed to enter the U.S.

    * Gallup (6/8/14): By a 2-to-1 margin (41% vs. 22%), Americans think immigration should be decreased rather than increased

    * The Polling Company (8/14/14): By a staggering 10-to-1 margin (75% vs. 8%), Americans believe that a business seeking workers should raise wages and improve working conditions before hiring new labor from abroad

    Why do you think Trump is leading by so great a margin.

    They are losing badly, soon the voter importation pipeline will be cut and their illegals sent home.....

    They are losing badly, soon the voter importation pipeline will be cut and their illegals sent home…..

    Polling poorly is not the same as losing. Being removed from office is losing.

  229. @candid_observer
    I'm more inclined to give a pass to ignorance about the phases of the moon.

    But how do you not know about the explanation of the seasons? There are just too many facts that need to be explained by the tilt of the earth. It's not just the seasons, in the sense of temperature, it's also why the days get shorter and longer, why in the artic circle there are days in which the sun doesn't rise, why the rays of the sun are more oblique in the winter.

    How do these students explain these facts of which I'm sure they are perfectly aware?

    How do these students explain these facts of which I’m sure they are perfectly aware?

    These days, the safe answer to anything about the temperature, is CO2.

  230. @ben tillman

    If it was about racial purity – there wouldn’t be a 70% intermarriage rate. That’s not the reason.
     
    What's the intermarriage rate in Israel?

    What’s the intermarriage rate in Israel?

    Selection effect there. The Jews who are concerned with the survival of “the Jews” have largely moved to Israel. The ones who remain are almost as subject to Jewish ethnomasochism as they are to white ethnomasochism. Certainly enough that criticizing intermarriage excites at least limited crimestop.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Selection effect there.
     
    That's non-responsive. The point is that the 70% figure is false (because the exogamy rate for Jews in Israel is close to zero) and irrelevant to any analysis of whether "racial purity" is important to the Jewish community (since Israeli Jews continue to produce plenty of "racially pure" Jews).

    The Jews who are concerned with the survival of “the Jews” have largely moved to Israel.
     

    There's no theoretical or empirical basis for this claim.

    The ones who remain are almost as subject to Jewish ethnomasochism as they are to white ethnomasochism.
     

    There is no Jewish ethnomasochism, and "white ethnomasochism" is inapplicable.
  231. @Wilkey
    No, it's perfectly fair. What causes the changing of the seasons and the phases of the moon are two of the earliest questions that piqued man's intellectual (and religious) curiosity. The fact that so many students are graduating from this nation's preeminent university without having ever learned these simple answers is pretty damn depressing. It wouldn't take one day's instruction in a high school physics class to adequately explain both.

    It wouldn’t take one day’s instruction in a high school physics class to adequately explain both.

    But you’d have to take that day. And it would come at the expense of something else.

    Lefties get very worked up about schools that don’t teach evolution. Well, how bad is that? Where in life would ignorance of Darwin put you at a disadvantage? In fact, maybe it would be better for all if people thought their fellow man was made in God’s image.
    And I say that as someone who fully accepts evolution (including the politically radioactive idea that it didn’t take a vacation during the last 50,000 years).

    I think teaching kids something about quantum mechanics would be at least as worthwhile as teaching them evolution or astronomy. At its tiniest scale, the world is a weird weird place. And a surprising amount of quantum mechanics is intelligible without resort to any math — Richard Feynmann proved that with a few outstanding little books.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I think teaching kids something about quantum mechanics would be at least as worthwhile as teaching them evolution or astronomy. At its tiniest scale, the world is a weird weird place. And a surprising amount of quantum mechanics is intelligible without resort to any math — Richard Feynmann proved that with a few outstanding little books."

    That is actually a problem with popular treatments of science nowadays. They focus on things like quarks and black holes rather than thermodynamics or mechanics. It is not possible to really understand all that abstruse science without understanding the basics: Why is it that leaving the refrigerator door open does not make your house cooler? Why is it bad to tailgate people? Why should you add the creamer to the coffee earlier if you want to keep it warmer.

    Why it is warmer in the summer and cooler in the winter? That can be explained rather simply; it is a matter of geometry. It is something that a Harvard Grad ought to know. Or at least, if he doesn't know it, he shouldn't be lecturing me about race or global warming.
  232. @International Jew

    A Messianic Jew, huh? He betrayed the NYDN Tribe.
     
    "Messianic Jews" are Christians who follow some Jewish traditions (more explicitly than other Christians do, at any rate).

    Which is neither here nor there, though. Thalasinos sounds like he was a good guy. Maybe an iSteve reader.

    The ones I’ve met were/are all ethnic Jews on one side or the other, mostly maternal or both.

  233. @jack ryan
    Nah....

    Get weapons that are practice that you/we can use.

    What weapons did the Left use to take over our media and our schools, universities. Certainly not AR 15s.

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn't end their activists' lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.

    If you are in to 1st amendment, get practical guns that you can use.

    22 bolt action rifle - target practice and shooting vermin. It's a lot better than nothing for home invaders

    12 gauge shot gun, home defense. It's loud and will get rioters to run the other direction.

    Revolver hand gun SW 38 special - easily concealed deadly at short range.

    Most everything else is very impractical. When has an AR 15 ever, ever been used to win us anything?

    Well, the weapons you recommend have no range. Everything is not spitting distance combat. That’s why the standard US military infantry weapon is the M4 carbine. Ever try stocking up on .22LR ammo? Good luck with that. 12 gauge ammo is big and heavy. Yes, a shotgun it is good for police use, not so good if you are engaged in battle. Even better would be a 7.62mm NATO weapon.

    Note that Project Appleseed is open to anybody with a rifle. There’s even a more-or-less quasi-official Appleseed rifle, a .22LR semi-automatic magazine rifle. The whole idea behind PA is to get people to feel confident with their weapon so as to reliably engage targets at a distance. Do you want someone to be able to pick you off because you can’t reach out and touch them?

    When has an AR-15 ever been used to win us anything? Well, it makes anti-gunners really, REALLY SCARED. Remember Handgun Control, Inc. and how for years and years, they asserted they just wanted your handgun and not your rifle? Then they slowly changed their tune and added ARs to their list of weapons to be declared verboten. It exposed the Brady Campaign as the LIARS that they are.

    “‘Assault Weapons: Mass Produced Mayhem’, highlights how the availability of assault weapons has changed the balance of power between law enforcement and criminals, endangering police officers and communities.”

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/resources/assault-weapons-mass-produced-mayhem

    So yeah, the AR-15 is PURE INTIMIDATION (“deterrence”) for the American Left. It won us the truth from the gun controllers. They want ALL the guns.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    A shotgun is a devastating, flesh-ripping, bone smashing tool of mayhem-at point blank range. At any distance, against even the most casually hardened targets, it is useless, except when configured very specially and with specific, otherwise useless, ammunition.

    Its effectiveness as a tool of offense or defense against state actors or any organized group can be judged by one fact: throughout most of the Soviet Union's history shotguns and shells were readily available to almost anyone.

    Law enforcement uses shotguns a lot but a large part of that is for things civilians either have no use for or which they won't sell you the specialized ammo and accessories for if you did.

    State and large organized nonstate actors fear accurate, centerfire rifles capable of sustained fire first and foremost, and small concealable handguns second. Shotguns, heavy and awkward target or large game rifles, and rimfire rifles much less so, along with muzzle loaders and so forth.

    The AR-15 based aftermarket/commodity guns-put together out of informal-standard, widely available parts like 1911 pistols, small block Chevy and Harley-Davidson engines and Fender guitars-are popular targets for gun controller invective because they look menacing. However most states do not allow the .223 cartridge the AR fires for deer hunting because it will not reliably stop whitetail deer humanely. I'd far rather have a good short bolt rifle of the "scout rifle" type chambered .243, .308 or similar than an AR if cacking bad guys was really my objective.
  234. @Anonymous
    Mort Zuckerman (owner of the NY Daily News) is not the same person as Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook).

    Oh, damn it! I mistook one billionaire gun controller for another billionaire gun controller. Zuckerman pushes his gun control on “The McLaughlin Group” and Zuckerberg wants to flood us with zillions of foreigners. Come to think of it, there’s not much difference politically between them!

  235. @Bill B.
    The historian Simon Epstein made almost exactly this point in his book The French Paradox a few years ago.

    The loudest antiracists in the 1920s and 1930s in France, including several who had sworn undying love for equality and justice for all, astonishingly became enthusiastic members of the proto-fascist Vichy government and many happily lauded Hitler's "vision".

    Many others, including such as Sartre and Camus, actually did very litttle to resist the Germans in practice but spent the post-war years lecturing the world on how to fight oppression.

    In fact - against progressiive myth - conservative and royalist figures formed the backbone of the resistants aligned with De Gaulle etc.

    https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_paradoxe_français

    https://maximetandonnet.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/resume-livre-le-paradoxe-francais/

    This is why I ultimately don’t think that Islam beheading leftism in the public square matters. these are virtue signalers and nothing else.

  236. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?

    In the USA typically moving from Christian to Jewish. In Israel the opposite.

  237. Wouldn’t this usually be seen as “blaming the victim”? Change a few words:

    One woman spent his free time writing frightening, feminism-loving, sex-filled screeds on Facebook about the other’s religion.

    The other person quietly stewed and brewed his bigotry, collecting the kind of arsenal that the Facebook poster would have envied.

    What they didn’t realize is that except for their different religions they were in many ways similar people who even had the same job….

    The woman, the victim, Carrie Bradshaw, was a radical secularist/Jew, who also connected with her future spouse online and had traveled across the country to meet him.

    The killer, however, became half of an anti-seculist Bonnie & Clyde, while the other died as the male equivalent of Pamela Geller.

    The killers deserve every disgusting adjective thrown at them. And more.

    But the victim is also inaccurately being eulogized as a kind and loving secular woman.

    Make no mistake, as disgusting and deservedly dead as the hate-filled fanatical anti-feminist killers were, Bradshaw was also a hate-filled bigot. Death can’t change that. But in the U.S., we don’t die for speaking our minds. Or we’re not supposed to anyway.

    Bradshaw was a pro-government, anti-religion, pro-NOW, rabidly pro-Planned Parenthood kinda gal, who posted that it would be “Freaking Awesome” if hateful Stephen Colbert was named head of Homeland Security.

  238. @jack ryan
    Nah....

    Get weapons that are practice that you/we can use.

    What weapons did the Left use to take over our media and our schools, universities. Certainly not AR 15s.

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn't end their activists' lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.

    If you are in to 1st amendment, get practical guns that you can use.

    22 bolt action rifle - target practice and shooting vermin. It's a lot better than nothing for home invaders

    12 gauge shot gun, home defense. It's loud and will get rioters to run the other direction.

    Revolver hand gun SW 38 special - easily concealed deadly at short range.

    Most everything else is very impractical. When has an AR 15 ever, ever been used to win us anything?

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn’t end their activists’ lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.

    The left used comedy and sexy girls.

    • Replies: @BB753
    And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else.
  239. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?

    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?

    I know you were asking Wilkey this question, but I’ve got an answer for you: they’re typically Jews who come to have faith in Christ. But the way many Evangelicals are — not having tradition, craving a sense of heritage, but poisoned against Catholicism, seemingly unaware of the very existence of Orthodoxy, and brainwashed with Dispensationalist heresy — they’re sort of the same thing really. Protestants wearing prayer shawls, calling Jesus “Yeshua,” blowing shofars — drives me nuts.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    So this poor dead Greek fellow in San Bernardino, did he start out Jewish and become a Jew for Jesus or did he start out Christian and become a more Jewish Christian? Or something else?
  240. @jack ryan
    Nah....

    Get weapons that are practice that you/we can use.

    What weapons did the Left use to take over our media and our schools, universities. Certainly not AR 15s.

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn't end their activists' lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.

    If you are in to 1st amendment, get practical guns that you can use.

    22 bolt action rifle - target practice and shooting vermin. It's a lot better than nothing for home invaders

    12 gauge shot gun, home defense. It's loud and will get rioters to run the other direction.

    Revolver hand gun SW 38 special - easily concealed deadly at short range.

    Most everything else is very impractical. When has an AR 15 ever, ever been used to win us anything?
  241. @Jonathan Mason
    Christopher Hitchens was certainly right about religion being the root of all evil.

    It is a pity, because there are a lot of good things about religion like providing schools and hospitals and activities for families, musical education, great art, fine architecture, wonderful music, suitable ceremonies for marriages and funerals, and so on, but once people start taking religious dogma seriously there will always be those who become obsessed with it and lose their minds.

    No, wine is not literally converted into human blood. No, there is no life after death. No, God is not great and even if he was, he should have no role in the government of nations.

    Christopher Hitchens was certainly right about religion being the root of all evil.

    It is a pity, because there are a lot of good things about religion like providing schools and hospitals and activities for families, musical education, great art, fine architecture, wonderful music, suitable ceremonies for marriages and funerals, and so on, but once people start taking religious dogma seriously there will always be those who become obsessed with it and lose their minds.

    No, wine is not literally converted into human blood. No, there is no life after death. No, God is not great and even if he was, he should have no role in the government of nations.

    Ohhhh, so they’re all alike, are they? Islam is Christianity is the Old Testament religion is Judaism is Buddhism and so on like that? You just listed a huge list of things that are great about Christianity, and you could add science (it was a Franciscan monk who even came up with the scientific method) — but haven’t seemed to notice that those things didn’t come from Islam or post-Temple Judaism, etc.

    Why have you totally overlooked the evils done in the name of atheism? Do the names Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot ring a bell? Care to add up the number of people they killed and try to find any remotely similar number when it comes to Christianity? And care to find any Christians-caused slaughter that was condoned by Christian authority and by the religion itself (unlike Islam, which does condone slaughter, or post-Temple Judaism which is as racist as it gets, etc.)?

    And what evils are you thinking of when it comes to traditional, classic (not Protestant) Christianity? The defensive wars called the Crusades — those wars which, if they’d not been fought, would have you living under Shariah law right now? The Spanish Inquisition that everyone thinks they know about, with very few having an actual clue? (see this video and this URL for some info)

    Catholicism and Orthodoxy don’t teach that wine is “literally” converted to human blood; they teach that the wine becomes the Blood of Christ in terms of substance, not in terms of accidents. We know the priest isn’t consuming corpuscles, for ex.

    And yes, there is life after death, and God is great. And without Him having a role in shaping a nation’s views of the True, Good, and Beautiful (as determined by Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium, the same forces that shaped Western Civilization for almost 2,000 years), whose views of those should we base our laws on? Yours?

  242. @Tracy

    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?
     
    I know you were asking Wilkey this question, but I've got an answer for you: they're typically Jews who come to have faith in Christ. But the way many Evangelicals are -- not having tradition, craving a sense of heritage, but poisoned against Catholicism, seemingly unaware of the very existence of Orthodoxy, and brainwashed with Dispensationalist heresy -- they're sort of the same thing really. Protestants wearing prayer shawls, calling Jesus "Yeshua," blowing shofars -- drives me nuts.

    So this poor dead Greek fellow in San Bernardino, did he start out Jewish and become a Jew for Jesus or did he start out Christian and become a more Jewish Christian? Or something else?

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    According to this article, Thalasinos was raised Catholic, was basically a non-believer ("pagan"), and only converted to Messianic Judaism in adulthood.
    , @International Jew
    Thalasinos is a very unlikely surname for a Jew. His mother could have been Jewish of course, but you'd think she would have at least held out for a more religiously neutral name than Nicholas. Jews — even the most assimilated — never name their kids Nicholas.
  243. @Clifford Brown
    Nick Kristof lays it on pretty thick in this Syrian Refugee Opinion piece. Israel, you see, is doing its part to move Muslim refugees into the West, why don't you do the same? Love the dig against European volunteers. I actually can't believe this is real.

    Someone needs to tell all those American WWII vets who liberated the concentration camps that they were complicit in Anne Frank's murder.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/opinion/sunday/hysteria-about-refugees-but-blindness-on-guns.html

    Here in Lesbos, the fears seem way overdrawn. Some of the first aid workers Syrian refugees meet when they land on the beach are Israeli doctors, working for an Israeli medical organization called IsraAID. The refugees say they are surprised, but also kind of delighted.

    “We were happy to see them,” said Tamara, a 20-year-old Syrian woman in jeans with makeup and uncovered hair. The presence of Jews, Muslims and Christians side by side fit with the tolerance and moderation that she craved.

    Iris Adler, an Israeli doctor volunteering with IsraAID, said the refugees were often excited to receive assistance from Israelis. “We are still in close touch with many of them,” she said, including a mother whose baby she delivered on the beach after landing. Hostility to Israeli aid workers, she said, came not from refugees but, rather, from some European volunteers.

    Historically, we Americans have repeatedly misperceived outsiders as threats. In 1938 and again in 1941, one desperate Jewish family in Europe tried to gain refugee status in the United States but failed, along with countless thousands of others. That was Anne Frank’s family.

    So while it was the Nazis who murdered Anne, we Americans were in some sense complicit.
     

    Maybe the Vatican could set up some doctors on the borders of Israel to facilitate the entry of migrant Muslems into Israel

  244. @wren
    And for folks who don't want to be on the blacklists of unz readers AND registered gun owners, they can purchase 80% lowers without any paperwork involved.

    And don’t forget the “Iron Glock” where you construct the frame from pieces of sheet metal.

    http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/214022-Iron-Glock

    Other people have constructed AR-15 frames by melting slabs of plastic and fusing them together.

    Check youtube.

    And don’t forget, you can convert your Glock to a selective fire machine pistol by replacing the rear slide plate. Just google for images of “Glock auto sear.”

  245. @Discordiax

    What’s the intermarriage rate in Israel?
     
    Selection effect there. The Jews who are concerned with the survival of "the Jews" have largely moved to Israel. The ones who remain are almost as subject to Jewish ethnomasochism as they are to white ethnomasochism. Certainly enough that criticizing intermarriage excites at least limited crimestop.

    Selection effect there.

    That’s non-responsive. The point is that the 70% figure is false (because the exogamy rate for Jews in Israel is close to zero) and irrelevant to any analysis of whether “racial purity” is important to the Jewish community (since Israeli Jews continue to produce plenty of “racially pure” Jews).

    The Jews who are concerned with the survival of “the Jews” have largely moved to Israel.

    There’s no theoretical or empirical basis for this claim.

    The ones who remain are almost as subject to Jewish ethnomasochism as they are to white ethnomasochism.

    There is no Jewish ethnomasochism, and “white ethnomasochism” is inapplicable.

  246. @Steve Sailer
    Okay, is somebody converting to Messianic Judaism typically moving part way from Jewish to Christian or typically moving part way from Christian to Jewish?

    No idea. I don’t believe I’ve ever knowingly met a Messianic Jew. My chief claim to expertise on the subject is that for about 2 years I lived about 2 blocks from a Messianic Jewish congregation, and that I once read the better part of a Wikipedia article on the subject. Good ole reliable Wikipedia seems to suggest it’ s about 50/50, and a visit to one MJ site tells me that most of the rabbis have typical Jewish surnames. I wouldn’t be shocked if a lot of the couples at MJ congregations started out as interfaith and found Messianic Judaism an acceptable compromise.

    The term “Messianic Jew” certainly seems as if it could be some sort of generic term for Jews who have converted to Catholicism, Methodism, or whatever, but it isn’t.

  247. @Steve Sailer
    So this poor dead Greek fellow in San Bernardino, did he start out Jewish and become a Jew for Jesus or did he start out Christian and become a more Jewish Christian? Or something else?

    According to this article, Thalasinos was raised Catholic, was basically a non-believer (“pagan”), and only converted to Messianic Judaism in adulthood.

    • Replies: @Hail

    converted to Messianic Judaism in adulthood
     
    Does this just mean he started to really, really like Jews (more than the typical American is supposed to)?

    Messianic Judaism, formerly known as Philo-Semitism. (?).
    , @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
  248. @International Jew

    It wouldn’t take one day’s instruction in a high school physics class to adequately explain both.
     
    But you'd have to take that day. And it would come at the expense of something else.

    Lefties get very worked up about schools that don't teach evolution. Well, how bad is that? Where in life would ignorance of Darwin put you at a disadvantage? In fact, maybe it would be better for all if people thought their fellow man was made in God's image.
    And I say that as someone who fully accepts evolution (including the politically radioactive idea that it didn't take a vacation during the last 50,000 years).

    I think teaching kids something about quantum mechanics would be at least as worthwhile as teaching them evolution or astronomy. At its tiniest scale, the world is a weird weird place. And a surprising amount of quantum mechanics is intelligible without resort to any math — Richard Feynmann proved that with a few outstanding little books.

    “I think teaching kids something about quantum mechanics would be at least as worthwhile as teaching them evolution or astronomy. At its tiniest scale, the world is a weird weird place. And a surprising amount of quantum mechanics is intelligible without resort to any math — Richard Feynmann proved that with a few outstanding little books.”

    That is actually a problem with popular treatments of science nowadays. They focus on things like quarks and black holes rather than thermodynamics or mechanics. It is not possible to really understand all that abstruse science without understanding the basics: Why is it that leaving the refrigerator door open does not make your house cooler? Why is it bad to tailgate people? Why should you add the creamer to the coffee earlier if you want to keep it warmer.

    Why it is warmer in the summer and cooler in the winter? That can be explained rather simply; it is a matter of geometry. It is something that a Harvard Grad ought to know. Or at least, if he doesn’t know it, he shouldn’t be lecturing me about race or global warming.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  249. @Wilkey
    According to this article, Thalasinos was raised Catholic, was basically a non-believer ("pagan"), and only converted to Messianic Judaism in adulthood.

    converted to Messianic Judaism in adulthood

    Does this just mean he started to really, really like Jews (more than the typical American is supposed to)?

    Messianic Judaism, formerly known as Philo-Semitism. (?).

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Was Ariel Sharon like this on one side of his family? He looked half-Jewish, half-Slav and it sounds like that's what he was: his mother's side of the family had belonged to a "Judaizing" Christian sect in Russia.
  250. @Wilkey
    According to this article, Thalasinos was raised Catholic, was basically a non-believer ("pagan"), and only converted to Messianic Judaism in adulthood.

    Thanks.

  251. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    If it was about racial purity – there wouldn’t be a 70% intermarriage rate. That’s not the reason.
     
    What's the intermarriage rate in Israel?

    A high percentage of the non-Jews in Israel are Muslim Arabs whom it would be dangerous for Jews to marry. The Orthodox rabbinate also has control of marriage among Jews in Israel and refuses to marry Jews and non-Jews, including those of partial Jewish ancestry. Couples of that nature must travel elswhere to marry, a barrier (cost, hassle) that probably limits intermarriage to some degree. The Orthodox rabbinate has no such power over secular or Reform Jews in the United States.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    A high percentage of the non-Jews in Israel are Muslim Arabs whom it would be dangerous for Jews to marry. The Orthodox rabbinate also has control of marriage among Jews in Israel and refuses to marry Jews and non-Jews, including those of partial Jewish ancestry. Couples of that nature must travel elswhere to marry, a barrier (cost, hassle) that probably limits intermarriage to some degree. The Orthodox rabbinate has no such power over secular or Reform Jews in the United States.
     
    So you agree that Jews marry one another in Israel, and the (apparently exaggerated) exogamy rate in the US is therefore irrelevant to Cochran's claim regarding racial purity.
  252. @Hail

    converted to Messianic Judaism in adulthood
     
    Does this just mean he started to really, really like Jews (more than the typical American is supposed to)?

    Messianic Judaism, formerly known as Philo-Semitism. (?).

    Was Ariel Sharon like this on one side of his family? He looked half-Jewish, half-Slav and it sounds like that’s what he was: his mother’s side of the family had belonged to a “Judaizing” Christian sect in Russia.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    His mother came from a subbotnik (sabbatarian) family that converted to judaism. Sabbatarianism -as in Sabbath keeping and other judaizing heterodoxies - cropped up in eastern Europe quite a bit. It was usually suppressed by the authorities but many small communities survived.
  253. Does Rev. John Hagee qualify as a Messianic Jew?

  254. @Anonymous
    A high percentage of the non-Jews in Israel are Muslim Arabs whom it would be dangerous for Jews to marry. The Orthodox rabbinate also has control of marriage among Jews in Israel and refuses to marry Jews and non-Jews, including those of partial Jewish ancestry. Couples of that nature must travel elswhere to marry, a barrier (cost, hassle) that probably limits intermarriage to some degree. The Orthodox rabbinate has no such power over secular or Reform Jews in the United States.

    A high percentage of the non-Jews in Israel are Muslim Arabs whom it would be dangerous for Jews to marry. The Orthodox rabbinate also has control of marriage among Jews in Israel and refuses to marry Jews and non-Jews, including those of partial Jewish ancestry. Couples of that nature must travel elswhere to marry, a barrier (cost, hassle) that probably limits intermarriage to some degree. The Orthodox rabbinate has no such power over secular or Reform Jews in the United States.

    So you agree that Jews marry one another in Israel, and the (apparently exaggerated) exogamy rate in the US is therefore irrelevant to Cochran’s claim regarding racial purity.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Israeli Jews primarily marry other Israeli Jews because other Israeli Jews form a majority of the population, and Jews and Palestinians are generally not accepting of each other as marriage partners. In the U.S., the numbers of non-Jews is vastly greater than the number of Jews. Moreover, secular and Reform American Jews generally don't have the same kind of poisoned relationship with American non-Jews as Israeli Jews have with Palestinians.
  255. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    A high percentage of the non-Jews in Israel are Muslim Arabs whom it would be dangerous for Jews to marry. The Orthodox rabbinate also has control of marriage among Jews in Israel and refuses to marry Jews and non-Jews, including those of partial Jewish ancestry. Couples of that nature must travel elswhere to marry, a barrier (cost, hassle) that probably limits intermarriage to some degree. The Orthodox rabbinate has no such power over secular or Reform Jews in the United States.
     
    So you agree that Jews marry one another in Israel, and the (apparently exaggerated) exogamy rate in the US is therefore irrelevant to Cochran's claim regarding racial purity.

    Israeli Jews primarily marry other Israeli Jews because other Israeli Jews form a majority of the population, and Jews and Palestinians are generally not accepting of each other as marriage partners. In the U.S., the numbers of non-Jews is vastly greater than the number of Jews. Moreover, secular and Reform American Jews generally don’t have the same kind of poisoned relationship with American non-Jews as Israeli Jews have with Palestinians.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    If you're trying to disagree with me, you're not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn't matter whether Jews in the US marry out.
  256. @ben tillman

    And South Carolina’s “conservative” voters reelect Graham every time.
     
    They're not interested in politics.

    ‘They’re not interested in politics.”

    Basically true. Self-described “conservatives” in a state like South Carolina like to think everything is just fine, and to be told that.

  257. @Anonymous
    Israeli Jews primarily marry other Israeli Jews because other Israeli Jews form a majority of the population, and Jews and Palestinians are generally not accepting of each other as marriage partners. In the U.S., the numbers of non-Jews is vastly greater than the number of Jews. Moreover, secular and Reform American Jews generally don't have the same kind of poisoned relationship with American non-Jews as Israeli Jews have with Palestinians.

    If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Tell me what other sizable (>10% of population) groups are in Israel for Israeli Jews to marry besides Jews and Palestinians. When Jews have options to marry out that aren't likely to get them killed, as they have in the West, the less religious are willing to marry out.
    , @Jefferson
    "If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out."

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Brazil, Argetina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.
    , @Jefferson
    If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israel could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys still marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Argentina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.
    , @Jefferson
    If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israel could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys still marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Argentina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.
  258. @Steve Sailer
    Was Ariel Sharon like this on one side of his family? He looked half-Jewish, half-Slav and it sounds like that's what he was: his mother's side of the family had belonged to a "Judaizing" Christian sect in Russia.

    His mother came from a subbotnik (sabbatarian) family that converted to judaism. Sabbatarianism -as in Sabbath keeping and other judaizing heterodoxies – cropped up in eastern Europe quite a bit. It was usually suppressed by the authorities but many small communities survived.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This could be true but it's more likely a myth.

    I know a bit about it and I'd happily give 3:1 regarding Sharon.
  259. One way to understand the liberal ideology of Whites like Linda Stasi is as a branch of Christianity. Stasi labors under the original sin of “White Privilege” from which she feels can be unburdened only by her faith in “Social Justice”. It is not that she hates the poor Nicholas Thalasinos. It is his sin of liking Ann Coulter that Stasi hates. Thought can be sinful for liberals just as for Christians. Thalasinos too could have been redeemed if he had become a liberal. “Hate the sin, love the sinner”.

    Perhaps Linda Stasi has read Ann Coulter and even, heaven forbid, Steve Sailer, and found herself drawn to their heretical ideas. It could be that it is the fear for her own soul that causes Stasi to denounce Nicholas Thalasinsos so vehemently.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    One way to understand the liberal ideology of Whites like Linda Stasi is as a branch of Christianity.
     
    Social Justice is essentially a Christian heresy. It's Christianity without the God stuff and the Jesus stuff (a bit like the Church of England).
  260. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    Yeah, I heard Year of the Cat in McDonalds this morning and it still sounded great, even though it is almost 40 years old.

    I’m a big fan of “Time Passages” myself. So hazily beautiful, so 70s shag-carpet cheesy in the best possible way.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    The whole album is good. I think I have the vinyl 33 rpm in the basement.
  261. @ben tillman
    If you're trying to disagree with me, you're not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn't matter whether Jews in the US marry out.

    Tell me what other sizable (>10% of population) groups are in Israel for Israeli Jews to marry besides Jews and Palestinians. When Jews have options to marry out that aren’t likely to get them killed, as they have in the West, the less religious are willing to marry out.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Tell me what other sizable (>10% of population) groups are in Israel for Israeli Jews to marry besides Jews and Palestinians. When Jews have options to marry out that aren’t likely to get them killed, as they have in the West, the less religious are willing to marry out.
     
    You keep missing the point (which is a response to Cochran's comment about intermarriage). The fact that there is a reservoir of endogamous Jews (whose existence you may rationalize as you wish) means that (contra Cochran's comment above) intermarriage in the US is not necessarily inconsistent with a concern for Jewish "racial purity".
  262. @el topo
    I'm a big fan of "Time Passages" myself. So hazily beautiful, so 70s shag-carpet cheesy in the best possible way.

    The whole album is good. I think I have the vinyl 33 rpm in the basement.

  263. @Steve Sailer
    So this poor dead Greek fellow in San Bernardino, did he start out Jewish and become a Jew for Jesus or did he start out Christian and become a more Jewish Christian? Or something else?

    Thalasinos is a very unlikely surname for a Jew. His mother could have been Jewish of course, but you’d think she would have at least held out for a more religiously neutral name than Nicholas. Jews — even the most assimilated — never name their kids Nicholas.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    IJ, you've got no business using that name when you can speak so authoritatively and so very very wrongly.

    Aside for how common out is among British Jews, it's not at all unknown among American Jews, even religiously oriented ones.
  264. @Harold

    The Left uses smears, doxing, protests, shouting down opposing speakers, fire alarms, maybe a water ballon filled with vile liquids. The Left doesn’t end their activists’ lives by using scary guns like AR 15s.
     
    The left used comedy and sexy girls.

    And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else."

    Swishkrieg
    , @Harold
    Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc. are comedies featuring sexy girls: Debra Messing, Sofía Vergara. No one was hankering to watch a show about gays; they sold gays to us using comedy and sexy girls. Normalising homosexuality was the medicine they thought we needed, comedy and sexy girls were the spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down.
    , @Jefferson
    "And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else."

    At least Modern Family and Will & Grace are realistic in that they portray most Homosexual male characters on the show as having a lisp and feminine mannerisms just like in real life. They could have easily gone the PC route and portrayed most of the Homosexual male characters as having no lisp and thus being indistinguishable from Heterosexual men to prove that we are all the same, but they didn't.
  265. @Steve Sailer
    There are just too many facts that need to be explained by the tilt of the earth. How do these [Harvard] students explain these facts of which I’m sure they are perfectly aware?

    Are they? Once you have the theory in mind you find that a lot of facts fit in with it, but plenty of urban people do fine in life without ever noticing connections between various facts. For example, in the 1980s-19902 I put a lot of effort into thinking about arbitraging golf course twilight time greens fees so that I could play expensive courses for a major discount and still have enough time to finish 18 holes before dark. My golf friends appreciated my ability to pick out twilight times for us that were a good deal from ones that were a bad deal, but weren't all that interested in my rhapsodizing about the general theory of the tilt of the earth and all the other phenomena that flowed from that.

    Here is an addition to your twilight musings. Find golf courses that are in bankruptcy. They need to keep the greens, etc in good condition, so should remain playable. One upside is that you won’t have much competition for tee times throughout the day.

    If you don’t mind a bit of heat, try some Coachella Valley courses during the summer. If you get too warm, you can always spend some time retrieving balls in the water hazards, but watch out for the leeches! Who said there wasn’t much wildlife in California?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Here is an addition to your twilight musings. Find golf courses that are in bankruptcy. They need to keep the greens, etc in good condition, so should remain playable. One upside is that you won’t have much competition for tee times throughout the day.
     
    Then Japan is the place to go. A short article in the FT Weekend tells how golf is dying out among the young Japanese-- who are dying out themselves. Courses are closing left and right.

    One firm is specializing in converting them to solar farms.

    Hey, Steve could do a hybrid golfitecture/sunlight/demographics post!
  266. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The byline is seriously “Stasi?” Someone’s taking a piss, or the NYDN has now become training wheels for the teenage monsters before they graduate to the New Republic & Vox… This is good for the L.A. Daily News (*view from Woodland Hills) assuming newspapers still exist a year from now

  267. @Balaji
    One way to understand the liberal ideology of Whites like Linda Stasi is as a branch of Christianity. Stasi labors under the original sin of “White Privilege” from which she feels can be unburdened only by her faith in “Social Justice”. It is not that she hates the poor Nicholas Thalasinos. It is his sin of liking Ann Coulter that Stasi hates. Thought can be sinful for liberals just as for Christians. Thalasinos too could have been redeemed if he had become a liberal. “Hate the sin, love the sinner”.

    Perhaps Linda Stasi has read Ann Coulter and even, heaven forbid, Steve Sailer, and found herself drawn to their heretical ideas. It could be that it is the fear for her own soul that causes Stasi to denounce Nicholas Thalasinsos so vehemently.

    One way to understand the liberal ideology of Whites like Linda Stasi is as a branch of Christianity.

    Social Justice is essentially a Christian heresy. It’s Christianity without the God stuff and the Jesus stuff (a bit like the Church of England).

    • Replies: @Harold
    Christianity as interpreted and practiced by Europeans and Social Justice resemble each other because they are both, in part, expressions of innate European predilections.
  268. @Jefferson
    The Inland Empire where the San Bernardino mass shootings took place used to be a solid Republican region in presidential elections. But that all changed in 2008 when Hussein turned The Inland Empire blue and he did it again in 2012 due to the Mexicanization of the region. The Inland Empire has experienced huge White flight.

    I wonder if Orange County in the long term will eventually go the way of The Inland Empire in presidential elections? If Republicans lose Orange County to the Democrats, the GOP might as close up all of their California offices for good because Orange County is the last bastion of any signs of Republicanism in California.

    But in the short term, will Donald Trump win Orange County in next year's presidential elections? Is there still enough White voters there for him to carry that county? I assume most Vietnamese voters there will not vote for The Donald due to his views on immigration. I am sure a lot of Viets in Orange County will become Hillary Clinton Republicans, the same way many White Democrats in the 1980s became Reagan Democrats.

    GOP is permanently dead in Cali anyway, whites are fleeing and the only growth is coming from immigration. I assume when America collapses Californian Asians will consolidate their control via whatever mechanism seems most convenient at the time (possibly involving rooftop Koreans).

  269. @Ivy
    Here is an addition to your twilight musings. Find golf courses that are in bankruptcy. They need to keep the greens, etc in good condition, so should remain playable. One upside is that you won't have much competition for tee times throughout the day.

    If you don't mind a bit of heat, try some Coachella Valley courses during the summer. If you get too warm, you can always spend some time retrieving balls in the water hazards, but watch out for the leeches! Who said there wasn't much wildlife in California?

    Here is an addition to your twilight musings. Find golf courses that are in bankruptcy. They need to keep the greens, etc in good condition, so should remain playable. One upside is that you won’t have much competition for tee times throughout the day.

    Then Japan is the place to go. A short article in the FT Weekend tells how golf is dying out among the young Japanese– who are dying out themselves. Courses are closing left and right.

    One firm is specializing in converting them to solar farms.

    Hey, Steve could do a hybrid golfitecture/sunlight/demographics post!

    • Replies: @Harold

    golf is dying out among the young Japanese—who are dying out themselves.
     
    Why are there so few young people around? They must be dying out. :-P
    , @Rifleman

    Hey, Steve could do a hybrid golfitecture/sunlight/demographics post!
     
    Don't encourage him, please.
  270. @dfordoom

    One way to understand the liberal ideology of Whites like Linda Stasi is as a branch of Christianity.
     
    Social Justice is essentially a Christian heresy. It's Christianity without the God stuff and the Jesus stuff (a bit like the Church of England).

    Christianity as interpreted and practiced by Europeans and Social Justice resemble each other because they are both, in part, expressions of innate European predilections.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Christianity as interpreted and practiced by Europeans and Social Justice resemble each other because they are both, in part, expressions of innate European predilections.
     
    That could well be true. It would be interesting to know if any HBDers have done any work on that subject. Did Christianity mould European civilisation or was it the other way around?

    Of course it would be even more interesting to know where such innate European predilections came from. Were they there from the beginning or did they arrive in one of the many waves of immigration? Are these predilections stronger in northern Europeans than southern Europeans? Is there a genetic reason for the relative failure of the Reformation in southern Europe?

    Is Social Justice more closely related to Protestantism than Catholicism? Is this due to the nature of Protestantism or is it due to different genetics in the Protestant parts of Europe?

    Do eastern Europeans share these predilections? Do slavic peoples share them?
  271. @Reg Cæsar

    Here is an addition to your twilight musings. Find golf courses that are in bankruptcy. They need to keep the greens, etc in good condition, so should remain playable. One upside is that you won’t have much competition for tee times throughout the day.
     
    Then Japan is the place to go. A short article in the FT Weekend tells how golf is dying out among the young Japanese-- who are dying out themselves. Courses are closing left and right.

    One firm is specializing in converting them to solar farms.

    Hey, Steve could do a hybrid golfitecture/sunlight/demographics post!

    golf is dying out among the young Japanese—who are dying out themselves.

    Why are there so few young people around? They must be dying out. 😛

  272. Currently a agnostic Christian traditionalist who may or may not go to a Christmas Eve service this year. I was brought up in a strong evangelical protestant household. In my formative years it was a minimum of three trips to church every week. It was there I was first exposed to “Jews for Jesus” in Sunday night services. They were occasional guest speakers and as a previous comment noted, they were treated like rock stars. Fast forward 15 years or so, the next time I came across Jews for Jesus (JFJ) was in the work place. In a adjacent work group were two members of the tribe, one of them had converted to JFJ. This is where I first learned what most Jews think about this group and it’s vehement. Frequent yelling bout’s, close to fisticuffs and those wonderful trips to HR. Fast forward a few more years and I’m now dating a non religious Jewish girl. She was always very curious of my Christian upbringing so much so that as a joke I bought her The Complete Idiots Guide to Jesus. She was nonplussed in my Christmas Eve church attendance and my parents prayers at the dinner table. However one time I brought up JFJ and she went all ballistic like the Sigourney Weaver character in Ghostbusters after she became possessed by Zuul. Whoa where did that come from? For whatever reason, I think JFJ is right up there with the Nazi’s for the average Jew.

  273. @kaganovitch
    His mother came from a subbotnik (sabbatarian) family that converted to judaism. Sabbatarianism -as in Sabbath keeping and other judaizing heterodoxies - cropped up in eastern Europe quite a bit. It was usually suppressed by the authorities but many small communities survived.

    This could be true but it’s more likely a myth.

    I know a bit about it and I’d happily give 3:1 regarding Sharon.

  274. @International Jew
    Thalasinos is a very unlikely surname for a Jew. His mother could have been Jewish of course, but you'd think she would have at least held out for a more religiously neutral name than Nicholas. Jews — even the most assimilated — never name their kids Nicholas.

    IJ, you’ve got no business using that name when you can speak so authoritatively and so very very wrongly.

    Aside for how common out is among British Jews, it’s not at all unknown among American Jews, even religiously oriented ones.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    Aside for how common out is among British Jews
     
    Typo?

    Can you find me any links to Jews named Nicholas?
  275. @Big Bill
    Messianic Jews are Jewish apostates. Well, not really "apostates" since there is no Pope of the Jews to decide "who's a Jew". But since his mother is/was a Jew, the dead guy is a Jew (albeit misguided) for at least 90% of Jews on Earth.

    In other news, another bunch of Torah-true, Shabbos-obedient,"Messianic" Jews (Chabad/Lubavitchers) have started a new ad campaign to get Palestinians to follow the seven Noachide Laws (the Jewish laws for Gentiles) and to recognize deceased Rabbi Schneerson as the Messiah.

    See http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2015/12/chabad-launches-special-mitzvah-campaign-for-palestinians-promoting-7-laws-of-noah-dead-rebbe-as-mes-678.html

    Are they signing the palestinians up for classes in water carrying and wood cutting ?

  276. @Harold
    Christianity as interpreted and practiced by Europeans and Social Justice resemble each other because they are both, in part, expressions of innate European predilections.

    Christianity as interpreted and practiced by Europeans and Social Justice resemble each other because they are both, in part, expressions of innate European predilections.

    That could well be true. It would be interesting to know if any HBDers have done any work on that subject. Did Christianity mould European civilisation or was it the other way around?

    Of course it would be even more interesting to know where such innate European predilections came from. Were they there from the beginning or did they arrive in one of the many waves of immigration? Are these predilections stronger in northern Europeans than southern Europeans? Is there a genetic reason for the relative failure of the Reformation in southern Europe?

    Is Social Justice more closely related to Protestantism than Catholicism? Is this due to the nature of Protestantism or is it due to different genetics in the Protestant parts of Europe?

    Do eastern Europeans share these predilections? Do slavic peoples share them?

    • Replies: @Harold
    All interesting questions.

    HBDChick’s work is related to the subject. Part of her thesis is that the Church banned cousin marriage, resulting in a society without a clan based structure, this in turn selected for different personality types than otherwise would have been selected for.

    Then there is the question of why the Church was able to make their ban stick.

    Kevin MacDonald has some hypotheses regarding egalitarianism and the hunter gatherer past, specifically of Northern Europeans. As does Curt Doolittle, I believe. I haven’t looked much into these.

    Do eastern Europeans share these predilections? Do slavic peoples share them?
     
    This is related to the Hajnal line which HBDChick has written much about.

    In general, I think some people put too much emphasis on ideas. Ideas are only successful if the soil in which they are planted is suited to them. The scientific revolution wasn’t due to the mere idea of empiricsim. Alhazen outlined the scientific method without inducing a scientific revolution; the seed was there but the ground was dry.
  277. @BB753
    And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else.

    “And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else.”

    Swishkrieg

  278. @Wilkey
    I think we're really at the point where the Left, American and European, has slid all the way down the slippery slope into the abyss of irrelevancy.

    I wish.
    I’ve known about “bodies”, “intersectionality”, “white gaze”, “safe spaces” and a lot of the other fashionable nonsense for years. I used to think that as people learned about those stupid ideas, the left would indeed lose much credibility. Instead, I often feel like I’m surrounded by crazy people everywhere nowadays. I’d probably go nuts if I were still going to university.
    Media is grotesquely corrupted and I’m witnessing something I never thought I’d witness: Credible threats on freedom of speech in the usa!
    I’m used to free speech not meaning anything in Canada or the rest of the western world but I did not see the all out assault on free speech coming.

  279. San Bernardino is undesirable enough that I doubt that any multi-millionaire lottery winner in Southern California has ever said for example “Now that I won $30 million dollars in California’s Super Lotto Plus, I am going to purchase a home in San Bernardino because I have always dreamed of living there. You know you have made it in life if you live in San Bernardino”.

  280. @Bert
    Oh shut up. I lived there and you don't know anything about it, so don't talk like you do.

    “Oh shut up. I lived there and you don’t know anything about it, so don’t talk like you do.”

    You shut your trap. What I said about San Bernardino being a ghetto trash city is 100 percent fact. Which is why San Bernardino has one of the highest per capita murder rates in the state of California. The reason your broke butt lives there is because you can not afford to live in any of the nicer parts of The Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan Area.

    • Replies: @Bert
    I don't live there anymore, dumbass.

    You are the most worthless, stupid poster here and I'm not the only one who thinks that. You probably don't even have a life judging from the endless amount of times you comment on Steve's blog.
  281. @BB753
    And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else.

    Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc. are comedies featuring sexy girls: Debra Messing, Sofía Vergara. No one was hankering to watch a show about gays; they sold gays to us using comedy and sexy girls. Normalising homosexuality was the medicine they thought we needed, comedy and sexy girls were the spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    So that's why Paul Lynde was the center square!
    , @Justin
    In what world is Debra Messing sexy? I only remember seeing maybe 2 or 3 episodes, but Megan Mulally was actually more attractive than her (in addition to being 100x funnier.)
  282. @Harold
    Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc. are comedies featuring sexy girls: Debra Messing, Sofía Vergara. No one was hankering to watch a show about gays; they sold gays to us using comedy and sexy girls. Normalising homosexuality was the medicine they thought we needed, comedy and sexy girls were the spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down.

    So that’s why Paul Lynde was the center square!

  283. @ben tillman
    If you're trying to disagree with me, you're not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn't matter whether Jews in the US marry out.

    “If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Brazil, Argetina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    “If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.
     
    Jefferson, please don't butt into a conversation that you haven't paid attention to. You embarrass yourself.
  284. @BB753
    And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else.

    “And gays. Lots of gays. (Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc,). Ad nauseam . Until you start to like them. Or else.”

    At least Modern Family and Will & Grace are realistic in that they portray most Homosexual male characters on the show as having a lisp and feminine mannerisms just like in real life. They could have easily gone the PC route and portrayed most of the Homosexual male characters as having no lisp and thus being indistinguishable from Heterosexual men to prove that we are all the same, but they didn’t.

  285. @dfordoom

    Christianity as interpreted and practiced by Europeans and Social Justice resemble each other because they are both, in part, expressions of innate European predilections.
     
    That could well be true. It would be interesting to know if any HBDers have done any work on that subject. Did Christianity mould European civilisation or was it the other way around?

    Of course it would be even more interesting to know where such innate European predilections came from. Were they there from the beginning or did they arrive in one of the many waves of immigration? Are these predilections stronger in northern Europeans than southern Europeans? Is there a genetic reason for the relative failure of the Reformation in southern Europe?

    Is Social Justice more closely related to Protestantism than Catholicism? Is this due to the nature of Protestantism or is it due to different genetics in the Protestant parts of Europe?

    Do eastern Europeans share these predilections? Do slavic peoples share them?

    All interesting questions.

    HBDChick’s work is related to the subject. Part of her thesis is that the Church banned cousin marriage, resulting in a society without a clan based structure, this in turn selected for different personality types than otherwise would have been selected for.

    Then there is the question of why the Church was able to make their ban stick.

    Kevin MacDonald has some hypotheses regarding egalitarianism and the hunter gatherer past, specifically of Northern Europeans. As does Curt Doolittle, I believe. I haven’t looked much into these.

    Do eastern Europeans share these predilections? Do slavic peoples share them?

    This is related to the Hajnal line which HBDChick has written much about.

    In general, I think some people put too much emphasis on ideas. Ideas are only successful if the soil in which they are planted is suited to them. The scientific revolution wasn’t due to the mere idea of empiricsim. Alhazen outlined the scientific method without inducing a scientific revolution; the seed was there but the ground was dry.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    In general, I think some people put too much emphasis on ideas. Ideas are only successful if the soil in which they are planted is suited to them.
     
    That would certainly explain a lot.

    The thought that depresses me is that some of the very genetic factors that made European civilisation so successful are the very factors that may doom that civilisation. Which means that avoiding that doom may be difficult if not impossible.
  286. @ben tillman
    If you're trying to disagree with me, you're not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn't matter whether Jews in the US marry out.

    If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israel could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys still marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Argentina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.

  287. @ben tillman
    If you're trying to disagree with me, you're not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn't matter whether Jews in the US marry out.

    If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israel could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys still marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Argentina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.

  288. @Harold
    Will and Grace, Modern Family, etc. are comedies featuring sexy girls: Debra Messing, Sofía Vergara. No one was hankering to watch a show about gays; they sold gays to us using comedy and sexy girls. Normalising homosexuality was the medicine they thought we needed, comedy and sexy girls were the spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down.

    In what world is Debra Messing sexy? I only remember seeing maybe 2 or 3 episodes, but Megan Mulally was actually more attractive than her (in addition to being 100x funnier.)

    • Replies: @Harold
    I liked her. Tastes differ. As for Megan Mullally, it is hard for me to objectively appraise how good she looked since every time I see her her voice comes to mind *shudder*.

    To refresh my memory I looked them up, so I have this to say: Ever since females started using the internet it has started to fill up with pictures of celebrities past their prime. Some 50 year old looks fabulous in some stupid looking dress at some stupid event. Damn women. I only want to see her when she was 24.

    It doesn’t get much more lowbrow than a discussion of the relative hotness of celebrities.

    This comment is property of The Unz Review (apparently).
  289. @Jefferson
    "Oh shut up. I lived there and you don’t know anything about it, so don’t talk like you do."

    You shut your trap. What I said about San Bernardino being a ghetto trash city is 100 percent fact. Which is why San Bernardino has one of the highest per capita murder rates in the state of California. The reason your broke butt lives there is because you can not afford to live in any of the nicer parts of The Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan Area.

    I don’t live there anymore, dumbass.

    You are the most worthless, stupid poster here and I’m not the only one who thinks that. You probably don’t even have a life judging from the endless amount of times you comment on Steve’s blog.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "I don’t live there anymore, dumbass.

    You are the most worthless, stupid poster here and I’m not the only one who thinks that. You probably don’t even have a life judging from the endless amount of times you comment on Steve’s blog."

    The per capita murder rate in San Bernardino is 21 per 100,000. Which is significantly higher than the California state average 4 per 100,000.
    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-San-Bernardino-California.html
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state

    San Bernardino is pure ghetto trash. Most people who move to San Bernardino are broke lower class Mexicans and to a lesser extent African Americans who were priced out of Los Angeles proper.

    Here is an article about how there is a meth epidemic in San Bernardino. Most of the meth in San Bernardino is being cooked up by Mexicans gangstas. San Bernardino is the real Breaking Bad, except with Mexican meth cookers instead of White Gringo ones.
    http://graphics.latimes.com/san-bernardino-park/

    San Bernardino went to hell in a hand basket after major White flight. San Bernardino went from being the American dream to the American nightmare.

  290. @ben tillman

    If it was about racial purity – there wouldn’t be a 70% intermarriage rate. That’s not the reason.
     
    What's the intermarriage rate in Israel?

    From what I can see, the jewish people goes through short burts of intense mixing with non jews, followed by centuries of endogamy.
    We seem to be living through one of those burts of mixing with non-jews, outside of israel itself.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    From what I can see, the jewish people goes through short burts of intense mixing with non jews, followed by centuries of endogamy.
     
    Sounds like Gould's idea of "punctuated equilibrium".
  291. @Justin
    In what world is Debra Messing sexy? I only remember seeing maybe 2 or 3 episodes, but Megan Mulally was actually more attractive than her (in addition to being 100x funnier.)

    I liked her. Tastes differ. As for Megan Mullally, it is hard for me to objectively appraise how good she looked since every time I see her her voice comes to mind *shudder*.

    To refresh my memory I looked them up, so I have this to say: Ever since females started using the internet it has started to fill up with pictures of celebrities past their prime. Some 50 year old looks fabulous in some stupid looking dress at some stupid event. Damn women. I only want to see her when she was 24.

    It doesn’t get much more lowbrow than a discussion of the relative hotness of celebrities.

    This comment is property of The Unz Review (apparently).

  292. @Harold
    All interesting questions.

    HBDChick’s work is related to the subject. Part of her thesis is that the Church banned cousin marriage, resulting in a society without a clan based structure, this in turn selected for different personality types than otherwise would have been selected for.

    Then there is the question of why the Church was able to make their ban stick.

    Kevin MacDonald has some hypotheses regarding egalitarianism and the hunter gatherer past, specifically of Northern Europeans. As does Curt Doolittle, I believe. I haven’t looked much into these.

    Do eastern Europeans share these predilections? Do slavic peoples share them?
     
    This is related to the Hajnal line which HBDChick has written much about.

    In general, I think some people put too much emphasis on ideas. Ideas are only successful if the soil in which they are planted is suited to them. The scientific revolution wasn’t due to the mere idea of empiricsim. Alhazen outlined the scientific method without inducing a scientific revolution; the seed was there but the ground was dry.

    In general, I think some people put too much emphasis on ideas. Ideas are only successful if the soil in which they are planted is suited to them.

    That would certainly explain a lot.

    The thought that depresses me is that some of the very genetic factors that made European civilisation so successful are the very factors that may doom that civilisation. Which means that avoiding that doom may be difficult if not impossible.

  293. @Bert
    I don't live there anymore, dumbass.

    You are the most worthless, stupid poster here and I'm not the only one who thinks that. You probably don't even have a life judging from the endless amount of times you comment on Steve's blog.

    “I don’t live there anymore, dumbass.

    You are the most worthless, stupid poster here and I’m not the only one who thinks that. You probably don’t even have a life judging from the endless amount of times you comment on Steve’s blog.”

    The per capita murder rate in San Bernardino is 21 per 100,000. Which is significantly higher than the California state average 4 per 100,000.
    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-San-Bernardino-California.html
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state

    San Bernardino is pure ghetto trash. Most people who move to San Bernardino are broke lower class Mexicans and to a lesser extent African Americans who were priced out of Los Angeles proper.

    Here is an article about how there is a meth epidemic in San Bernardino. Most of the meth in San Bernardino is being cooked up by Mexicans gangstas. San Bernardino is the real Breaking Bad, except with Mexican meth cookers instead of White Gringo ones.
    http://graphics.latimes.com/san-bernardino-park/

    San Bernardino went to hell in a hand basket after major White flight. San Bernardino went from being the American dream to the American nightmare.

  294. @Jefferson
    "If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out."

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Brazil, Argetina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.

    “If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    Jefferson, please don’t butt into a conversation that you haven’t paid attention to. You embarrass yourself.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Jefferson, please don’t butt into a conversation that you haven’t paid attention to. You embarrass yourself."

    This is how you know White Goys are way too obsessed with maintaining racial purity even more so than the Jews, even in countries/states where they are in the Minority, White Goys they still prefer to marry other Whites.

    In South Africa the majority of White Goys do not marry Blacks. In California the majority of White Goys do not marry Mestizos/Amerindians. White Goys have racist dating and marriage preferences even when they are outnumbered by Nonwhites.
  295. @Anonymous
    Tell me what other sizable (>10% of population) groups are in Israel for Israeli Jews to marry besides Jews and Palestinians. When Jews have options to marry out that aren't likely to get them killed, as they have in the West, the less religious are willing to marry out.

    Tell me what other sizable (>10% of population) groups are in Israel for Israeli Jews to marry besides Jews and Palestinians. When Jews have options to marry out that aren’t likely to get them killed, as they have in the West, the less religious are willing to marry out.

    You keep missing the point (which is a response to Cochran’s comment about intermarriage). The fact that there is a reservoir of endogamous Jews (whose existence you may rationalize as you wish) means that (contra Cochran’s comment above) intermarriage in the US is not necessarily inconsistent with a concern for Jewish “racial purity”.

  296. @Anonymous
    IJ, you've got no business using that name when you can speak so authoritatively and so very very wrongly.

    Aside for how common out is among British Jews, it's not at all unknown among American Jews, even religiously oriented ones.

    Aside for how common out is among British Jews

    Typo?

    Can you find me any links to Jews named Nicholas?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Typo?

    Can you find me any links to Jews named Nicholas?"

    Here is a guy named Nicholas Goldberg.
    http://www.trbimg.com/img-533360fe/turbine/lat-masthead-photo-nicholas-goldberg-20140326

    And he is quite swarthy as well, so he most likely is a German Jew Goldberg and not a German Gentile Goldberg.

    If a person has a German last name but a Middle Eastern/Mediterranean pigmentation, than that person is most likely not a pure German Gentile. Pure unmixed Germans are all paler than sour cream.

  297. Tell me what other sizable (>10% of population) groups are in Israel for Israeli Jews to marry besides Jews and Palestinians. When Jews have options to marry out that aren’t likely to get them killed, as they have in the West, the less religious are willing to marry out.

    You guys rarely come out looking very good in open debate. I suppose that might have a lot to do with the tribe’s censorious bent.

    You really did just act as though Jews aren’t in control of Israel’s immigration policy.

    Thalasinos is a very unlikely surname for a Jew. His mother could have been Jewish of course, but you’d think she would have at least held out for a more religiously neutral name than Nicholas. Jews — even the most assimilated — never name their kids Nicholas.

    I’ll let Nicholas Stix know.

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.

    You act as if that isn’t all down to Jewish behavior.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Brazil, Argetina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.

    Nice false distinction between French marrying Czechs, Russians marrying Brits, etc., and Jews marrying French, Czechs, Russians, Brits, etc.

    That’s what Jews refer to as “intermarriage”; Jews marrying whites (and other Jews occasionally sitting Shiva, calling it a silent holocaust, etc). Whites have no word for this. Ergo, Jews are somehow less racist, or something.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "You act as if that isn’t all down to Jewish behavior."

    And White Goy behavior is the most sickening and racist of all. You have to be an extremely racist White Goy to live in a majority Black country like South Africa and yet still only date and marry within the White race.

    White Goys in South Africa should be dating and marrying Blacks at the same high rate that Jews in the U.S date and marry White Goys.

    White Goys don't assimilate into Black South African society. White Goys in South Africa are like Indians in the U.S who rarely marry White people even though they live in a majority White country.

  298. @Joe Stalin
    Well, the weapons you recommend have no range. Everything is not spitting distance combat. That's why the standard US military infantry weapon is the M4 carbine. Ever try stocking up on .22LR ammo? Good luck with that. 12 gauge ammo is big and heavy. Yes, a shotgun it is good for police use, not so good if you are engaged in battle. Even better would be a 7.62mm NATO weapon.

    Note that Project Appleseed is open to anybody with a rifle. There's even a more-or-less quasi-official Appleseed rifle, a .22LR semi-automatic magazine rifle. The whole idea behind PA is to get people to feel confident with their weapon so as to reliably engage targets at a distance. Do you want someone to be able to pick you off because you can't reach out and touch them?

    When has an AR-15 ever been used to win us anything? Well, it makes anti-gunners really, REALLY SCARED. Remember Handgun Control, Inc. and how for years and years, they asserted they just wanted your handgun and not your rifle? Then they slowly changed their tune and added ARs to their list of weapons to be declared verboten. It exposed the Brady Campaign as the LIARS that they are.

    "'Assault Weapons: Mass Produced Mayhem', highlights how the availability of assault weapons has changed the balance of power between law enforcement and criminals, endangering police officers and communities."

    http://www.bradycampaign.org/resources/assault-weapons-mass-produced-mayhem

    So yeah, the AR-15 is PURE INTIMIDATION ("deterrence") for the American Left. It won us the truth from the gun controllers. They want ALL the guns.

    A shotgun is a devastating, flesh-ripping, bone smashing tool of mayhem-at point blank range. At any distance, against even the most casually hardened targets, it is useless, except when configured very specially and with specific, otherwise useless, ammunition.

    Its effectiveness as a tool of offense or defense against state actors or any organized group can be judged by one fact: throughout most of the Soviet Union’s history shotguns and shells were readily available to almost anyone.

    Law enforcement uses shotguns a lot but a large part of that is for things civilians either have no use for or which they won’t sell you the specialized ammo and accessories for if you did.

    State and large organized nonstate actors fear accurate, centerfire rifles capable of sustained fire first and foremost, and small concealable handguns second. Shotguns, heavy and awkward target or large game rifles, and rimfire rifles much less so, along with muzzle loaders and so forth.

    The AR-15 based aftermarket/commodity guns-put together out of informal-standard, widely available parts like 1911 pistols, small block Chevy and Harley-Davidson engines and Fender guitars-are popular targets for gun controller invective because they look menacing. However most states do not allow the .223 cartridge the AR fires for deer hunting because it will not reliably stop whitetail deer humanely. I’d far rather have a good short bolt rifle of the “scout rifle” type chambered .243, .308 or similar than an AR if cacking bad guys was really my objective.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    Years ago, someone was telling me about how an Italian woman visiting the USA in the Northeast was horrified that people had access to rifles, when being shown a store that happened to be selling mere 'hunting rifles.' Rifles make a militia, even the unorganized type, giving them combat power on par with the military's small arms.

    As for the 5.56mm round used on the AR, I don't think there is any doubt whatsoever as to it's effectiveness on human targets when fired from the standard 20" barrel AR-15. From a 14.5" barrel M4 carbine, I see people questioning it's effectiveness. Remember, the idea of the 5.56mm round from the military perspective is that the round will cause as much damage as possible within the width of the human torso. A good synapses of the 5.56mm round issues in found on:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO
  299. @ben tillman

    “If you’re trying to disagree with me, you’re not doing a very good job. In any event, in Israel, Jews marry Jews, so it doesn’t matter whether Jews in the US marry out.”

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.
     
    Jefferson, please don't butt into a conversation that you haven't paid attention to. You embarrass yourself.

    “Jefferson, please don’t butt into a conversation that you haven’t paid attention to. You embarrass yourself.”

    This is how you know White Goys are way too obsessed with maintaining racial purity even more so than the Jews, even in countries/states where they are in the Minority, White Goys they still prefer to marry other Whites.

    In South Africa the majority of White Goys do not marry Blacks. In California the majority of White Goys do not marry Mestizos/Amerindians. White Goys have racist dating and marriage preferences even when they are outnumbered by Nonwhites.

  300. @International Jew

    Aside for how common out is among British Jews
     
    Typo?

    Can you find me any links to Jews named Nicholas?

    “Typo?

    Can you find me any links to Jews named Nicholas?”

    Here is a guy named Nicholas Goldberg.
    http://www.trbimg.com/img-533360fe/turbine/lat-masthead-photo-nicholas-goldberg-20140326

    And he is quite swarthy as well, so he most likely is a German Jew Goldberg and not a German Gentile Goldberg.

    If a person has a German last name but a Middle Eastern/Mediterranean pigmentation, than that person is most likely not a pure German Gentile. Pure unmixed Germans are all paler than sour cream.

  301. @Svigor

    Tell me what other sizable (>10% of population) groups are in Israel for Israeli Jews to marry besides Jews and Palestinians. When Jews have options to marry out that aren’t likely to get them killed, as they have in the West, the less religious are willing to marry out.
     
    You guys rarely come out looking very good in open debate. I suppose that might have a lot to do with the tribe's censorious bent.

    You really did just act as though Jews aren't in control of Israel's immigration policy.

    Thalasinos is a very unlikely surname for a Jew. His mother could have been Jewish of course, but you’d think she would have at least held out for a more religiously neutral name than Nicholas. Jews — even the most assimilated — never name their kids Nicholas.
     
    I'll let Nicholas Stix know.

    Israel is 75 percent Jewish, so no shit Sherlock the vast majority of Jews there are going to marry other Jews. Math is not your strength obviously. Goys are a Minority in Israel, so the majority of Jews in Israe could not marry a Goy even if they wanted to.
     
    You act as if that isn't all down to Jewish behavior.

    Do you know of any country that is at least 75 percent White Gentile where the majority of White Gentiles do not marry other White people? Nope.

    Are the majority of Swedes marrying Somali Muslims? Nope. Are the majority of French Catholics and Atheists marrying North African Muslims? Nope.

    Even in South Africa where White people are in the Minority, the majority of White Goys marry other White people.

    But Jews predominantly marry outside their tribe when they reside in Goy majority countries. The majority of Jews in Canada, Brazil, Argetina, Brazil, and The United States for example marry Goys.
     
    Nice false distinction between French marrying Czechs, Russians marrying Brits, etc., and Jews marrying French, Czechs, Russians, Brits, etc.

    That's what Jews refer to as "intermarriage"; Jews marrying whites (and other Jews occasionally sitting Shiva, calling it a silent holocaust, etc). Whites have no word for this. Ergo, Jews are somehow less racist, or something.

    “You act as if that isn’t all down to Jewish behavior.”

    And White Goy behavior is the most sickening and racist of all. You have to be an extremely racist White Goy to live in a majority Black country like South Africa and yet still only date and marry within the White race.

    White Goys in South Africa should be dating and marrying Blacks at the same high rate that Jews in the U.S date and marry White Goys.

    White Goys don’t assimilate into Black South African society. White Goys in South Africa are like Indians in the U.S who rarely marry White people even though they live in a majority White country.

  302. @Former Darfur
    A shotgun is a devastating, flesh-ripping, bone smashing tool of mayhem-at point blank range. At any distance, against even the most casually hardened targets, it is useless, except when configured very specially and with specific, otherwise useless, ammunition.

    Its effectiveness as a tool of offense or defense against state actors or any organized group can be judged by one fact: throughout most of the Soviet Union's history shotguns and shells were readily available to almost anyone.

    Law enforcement uses shotguns a lot but a large part of that is for things civilians either have no use for or which they won't sell you the specialized ammo and accessories for if you did.

    State and large organized nonstate actors fear accurate, centerfire rifles capable of sustained fire first and foremost, and small concealable handguns second. Shotguns, heavy and awkward target or large game rifles, and rimfire rifles much less so, along with muzzle loaders and so forth.

    The AR-15 based aftermarket/commodity guns-put together out of informal-standard, widely available parts like 1911 pistols, small block Chevy and Harley-Davidson engines and Fender guitars-are popular targets for gun controller invective because they look menacing. However most states do not allow the .223 cartridge the AR fires for deer hunting because it will not reliably stop whitetail deer humanely. I'd far rather have a good short bolt rifle of the "scout rifle" type chambered .243, .308 or similar than an AR if cacking bad guys was really my objective.

    Years ago, someone was telling me about how an Italian woman visiting the USA in the Northeast was horrified that people had access to rifles, when being shown a store that happened to be selling mere ‘hunting rifles.’ Rifles make a militia, even the unorganized type, giving them combat power on par with the military’s small arms.

    As for the 5.56mm round used on the AR, I don’t think there is any doubt whatsoever as to it’s effectiveness on human targets when fired from the standard 20″ barrel AR-15. From a 14.5″ barrel M4 carbine, I see people questioning it’s effectiveness. Remember, the idea of the 5.56mm round from the military perspective is that the round will cause as much damage as possible within the width of the human torso. A good synapses of the 5.56mm round issues in found on:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    During the Vietnam unpleasantness there were a number of US troops who preferred the captured AKs over their own M-16 for two reasons. One was that the M-16 developed severe reliability problems in SE Asia due to climate and also the type of powder used in the ammunition.

    The other, though, was that the .223 projectile was not a dependable manstopper against sufficiently enraged and sometimes drug enhanced enemy troops. There is no question it will reliably kill with proper shot placement, but any firearm will do that. When you are charged by enraged fanatics, you want something that will instantly drop them.

    Humans, in excellent physical shape and in an emotionally charged state, are about as tough as whitetail deer to reliably drop over with a single bullet. So the continuing refusal of state wildlife authorities to permit the .223 or any .22 caliber round, even the legendary .220 Swift, for deer is a significant indicator that this isn't enough gun.
  303. @Joe Stalin
    Years ago, someone was telling me about how an Italian woman visiting the USA in the Northeast was horrified that people had access to rifles, when being shown a store that happened to be selling mere 'hunting rifles.' Rifles make a militia, even the unorganized type, giving them combat power on par with the military's small arms.

    As for the 5.56mm round used on the AR, I don't think there is any doubt whatsoever as to it's effectiveness on human targets when fired from the standard 20" barrel AR-15. From a 14.5" barrel M4 carbine, I see people questioning it's effectiveness. Remember, the idea of the 5.56mm round from the military perspective is that the round will cause as much damage as possible within the width of the human torso. A good synapses of the 5.56mm round issues in found on:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO

    During the Vietnam unpleasantness there were a number of US troops who preferred the captured AKs over their own M-16 for two reasons. One was that the M-16 developed severe reliability problems in SE Asia due to climate and also the type of powder used in the ammunition.

    The other, though, was that the .223 projectile was not a dependable manstopper against sufficiently enraged and sometimes drug enhanced enemy troops. There is no question it will reliably kill with proper shot placement, but any firearm will do that. When you are charged by enraged fanatics, you want something that will instantly drop them.

    Humans, in excellent physical shape and in an emotionally charged state, are about as tough as whitetail deer to reliably drop over with a single bullet. So the continuing refusal of state wildlife authorities to permit the .223 or any .22 caliber round, even the legendary .220 Swift, for deer is a significant indicator that this isn’t enough gun.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    Yes, the AK is more reliable the M-16 if the weapon is not maintained. But, like the AK, the M-16 now incorporates a chrome-plated chamber and barrel. I'm willing to bet my life on a Colt AR-15, Model SP1, a weapon over 35 years old. I choose that over the FN-FAL in the closet.

    Since we talking about a weapon system, consisting of a rifle, a cartridge and a magazine, you will have to make a compromise somewhere. Some want a 7.62, some a 6.8, some a 5.56mm. The Chinese have adopted their own unique round for their assault rifle. Wildlife doesn't provide a consistent test media from which to perform development. Most every Western country uses a .22 caliber round as their military round, with few exceptions, like Turkey which has chosen to retain the 7.62mm NATO round. Nobody is spending money to create an enhanced 7.62x39mm AK round.

    Sometimes, "good enough for government work" means you use what the other guy is using.
    I'm saying "quantity has a quality all by itself." The military, police, National Guard all use the AR-15. You should have a weapon chambering their ammunition.
  304. @Former Darfur
    During the Vietnam unpleasantness there were a number of US troops who preferred the captured AKs over their own M-16 for two reasons. One was that the M-16 developed severe reliability problems in SE Asia due to climate and also the type of powder used in the ammunition.

    The other, though, was that the .223 projectile was not a dependable manstopper against sufficiently enraged and sometimes drug enhanced enemy troops. There is no question it will reliably kill with proper shot placement, but any firearm will do that. When you are charged by enraged fanatics, you want something that will instantly drop them.

    Humans, in excellent physical shape and in an emotionally charged state, are about as tough as whitetail deer to reliably drop over with a single bullet. So the continuing refusal of state wildlife authorities to permit the .223 or any .22 caliber round, even the legendary .220 Swift, for deer is a significant indicator that this isn't enough gun.

    Yes, the AK is more reliable the M-16 if the weapon is not maintained. But, like the AK, the M-16 now incorporates a chrome-plated chamber and barrel. I’m willing to bet my life on a Colt AR-15, Model SP1, a weapon over 35 years old. I choose that over the FN-FAL in the closet.

    Since we talking about a weapon system, consisting of a rifle, a cartridge and a magazine, you will have to make a compromise somewhere. Some want a 7.62, some a 6.8, some a 5.56mm. The Chinese have adopted their own unique round for their assault rifle. Wildlife doesn’t provide a consistent test media from which to perform development. Most every Western country uses a .22 caliber round as their military round, with few exceptions, like Turkey which has chosen to retain the 7.62mm NATO round. Nobody is spending money to create an enhanced 7.62x39mm AK round.

    Sometimes, “good enough for government work” means you use what the other guy is using.
    I’m saying “quantity has a quality all by itself.” The military, police, National Guard all use the AR-15. You should have a weapon chambering their ammunition.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    I have one of each, plus a 20" Encore barrel in .223 with a Bellm slightly buffed chamber to accommodate all mil spec 5.56. But if serious work ever is needed, Allah forbid, I've got other things.

    The Encore in .223/5.56 is a feral cat cacker par excellence. Just sayin'.
  305. @Reg Cæsar

    Here is an addition to your twilight musings. Find golf courses that are in bankruptcy. They need to keep the greens, etc in good condition, so should remain playable. One upside is that you won’t have much competition for tee times throughout the day.
     
    Then Japan is the place to go. A short article in the FT Weekend tells how golf is dying out among the young Japanese-- who are dying out themselves. Courses are closing left and right.

    One firm is specializing in converting them to solar farms.

    Hey, Steve could do a hybrid golfitecture/sunlight/demographics post!

    Hey, Steve could do a hybrid golfitecture/sunlight/demographics post!

    Don’t encourage him, please.

  306. @Joe Stalin
    Yes, the AK is more reliable the M-16 if the weapon is not maintained. But, like the AK, the M-16 now incorporates a chrome-plated chamber and barrel. I'm willing to bet my life on a Colt AR-15, Model SP1, a weapon over 35 years old. I choose that over the FN-FAL in the closet.

    Since we talking about a weapon system, consisting of a rifle, a cartridge and a magazine, you will have to make a compromise somewhere. Some want a 7.62, some a 6.8, some a 5.56mm. The Chinese have adopted their own unique round for their assault rifle. Wildlife doesn't provide a consistent test media from which to perform development. Most every Western country uses a .22 caliber round as their military round, with few exceptions, like Turkey which has chosen to retain the 7.62mm NATO round. Nobody is spending money to create an enhanced 7.62x39mm AK round.

    Sometimes, "good enough for government work" means you use what the other guy is using.
    I'm saying "quantity has a quality all by itself." The military, police, National Guard all use the AR-15. You should have a weapon chambering their ammunition.

    I have one of each, plus a 20″ Encore barrel in .223 with a Bellm slightly buffed chamber to accommodate all mil spec 5.56. But if serious work ever is needed, Allah forbid, I’ve got other things.

    The Encore in .223/5.56 is a feral cat cacker par excellence. Just sayin’.

  307. @ogunsiron
    From what I can see, the jewish people goes through short burts of intense mixing with non jews, followed by centuries of endogamy.
    We seem to be living through one of those burts of mixing with non-jews, outside of israel itself.

    From what I can see, the jewish people goes through short burts of intense mixing with non jews, followed by centuries of endogamy.

    Sounds like Gould’s idea of “punctuated equilibrium”.

  308. Przydatny zbiór miar zasilacza pragnie z tegoż, co
    planujemy nim zasilić Wiec ponad, skoro raczą Państwo pozwalać oświecenie LED wywołuję wypominać:
    Zasilacze do rozjaśnienia LED opracowują na wirze statycznym
    DC, na wyciągnięciu 12V (tylko 24V neony żądają
    bogatszego zdenerwowania

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