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From NPR:

Nigeria May Be Part Of Trump’s Travel Ban, But Nigerians Tend To Trust Trump
February 11, 20204:24 PM ET

NPR’s Audie Cornish talks with Nigerian writer Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani …

AUDIE CORNISH, HOST: Immigrants from Africa’s most populous country will be blocked from coming to the U.S. beginning later this month. The Trump administration is denying immigrant visas to Nigerians as part of an expanded travel ban. …

NWAUBANI: … The original impression we had and most people had was that our country was put on the travel ban list because of issues with security. Maybe the citizens – there was some suspicion regarding Nigerian citizens. But it turned out that it had nothing to do with that. It was simply a punishment to sort of light a fire under the butt of our government because for more than a year, the United States government has been trying to get the Nigerian government to upgrade information-sharing procedures, and our government has been lethargic about it. So the United States government came up with this plan to ban immigrants and then to put us on the travel ban list. And it’s worked because our government has gone into action to upgrade the information-sharing procedure. So it’s a punishment that has yielded some result.

CORNISH: You say Nigerians are unfazed by comments or policies that American critics might consider racist from the president. How do people hear it differently?

NWAUBANI: Well, the point to note is that the data the Pew Research Center has pulled year after year – and it’s been consistent – Nigerians love Trump. His approval ratings here are high. It’s been like that throughout his presidency. And the most recent polls in January show that almost 6 out of 10 Nigerians approve of what he’s doing and believe he’ll do the right thing. So that is it. Nigerians like Trump.

Usually, when he makes the comments that people in the U.S. regard as racist or whatever, in this part of the world, people tend to agree with him because we think, well, we know these things he’s saying are things that everybody else is thinking. We’re not under any illusion that any country in the world wants to welcome African immigrants with wide-open arms. No Nigerian I know of is under that illusion. No European country is eager to welcome African immigrants. … Immigrants are beautiful people. They do all sorts of wonderful things. But I don’t think that there are many people sitting down and desiring that their countries are flooded with immigrants. So President Trump is saying, we don’t want more immigrants from this part of the world. Nigerians don’t hold it against him because the impression is that, well, he’s saying what everybody else thinks but just doesn’t say.

 
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  1. Well, Nigerians excel at gathering information and phishing. I’d think they deserve at least a C as potential immigrants so should be allowed in.

  2. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Nigerians don’t hold it against him because the impression is that, well, he’s saying what everybody else thinks but just doesn’t say.

    In this, Nigerians are like most people, I think. They tend to respect honesty.

    Tying this back to Steve’s recent post about Mike Bloomberg’s reasonable comments about race years ago, I’d argue that talking honestly about race is the Democratic equivalent of Trump talking honestly about George W. Bush. For years, Republican pols talked about how Bush “kept us safe”, until Donald Trump pointed out to Jeb Bush that 9/11 happened on his brother’s watch. I think a Dem candidate who did this in a tactful way on race could clean up. Point out that the number of blacks killed by black criminals dwarfs that of those killed by cops and say we need to talk about ways to bring that crime rate down.

  3. Thomas says:

    Newsflash: Africans love the “big man.”

    Another newsflash: Africans aren’t as good at being the perpetually-aggrieved morality pets and props white liberals expect African-Americans to be.

    • Agree: Ed
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Morton's toes
  4. Lot says:

    Can we generalize that populations like Trump that are directly fighting Muslim conquest, along its mostly bloody borders? Philippines, Armenia, Israel, India, Thailand, Burma, Ethiopia, etc.

  5. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:

    Bush chased after the “growing Hispanic vote,” but Trump seems to be chasing after the already existing Black vote. He may not win a lot of direct black support, but at the very least he’s keeping them from showing up in droves to vote against him. That may actually be an even better tactic. The blacks who do show up and vote for Trump would likely vote for Dems down ballot. The blacks who don’t show up don’t vote at all.

    To that extent he seems to have avoided doing anything to antagonize black voters.

  6. @Thomas

    All true, and when I spent an evening on a website of and for Nigerians who are trying to emigrate to Europe and the USA, I discovered that most are quite honest about their own country and countrymen. They’ll do absolutely anything they can to escape the horror of living among Nigerians. And they don’t pretend otherwise, at least when they think no one’s looking.

    Comic relief was provided by their collective insistence was that the immigration jackpot is achieved by finding an overweight white woman in the USA (okay, redundant) who wants to be treated like a queen (okay, redundant). Marriage! Green Card! Citizenship! Then you can pretty much do whatever you want.

    Ahh, here it is: https://www.nairaland.com/travel — Probably found it here on UNZ.

    • Replies: @PennTothal
    , @Sam Haysom
  7. Anon[232] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    1. Juicy Smwallay?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/arts/television/jussie-smollett-indicted-chicago.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/02/12/us/ap-us-jussie-smollett-profile.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/02/11/us/ap-us-jussie-smollett.html

    2. NYT gets around to Charles Murray, via a review by a female Indian-American literary critic, Parul Sehgal.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/12/books/review-human-diversity-charles-murray.html

    She makes various rookie mistakes, as might be expected from a literary critic reviewing a book on genetics. For instance, the second and third sentences of the review:

    … arguing in two notorious chapters that I.Q. differences between the races were mostly innate and mostly intractable. (They allowed that environmental factors play a part in I.Q., but held that the “balance of the evidence” put a genetic factor of 60 percent “on the low side.”)

    I just finished reading TBC, and I didn’t remember that. Luckily I could search for “balance of the evidence” on the Kindle. In the beginning of the book (not in the notorious chapters 13, et seq.) the authors explain heritability, and the heritability of IQ, saying it’s probably about 60 percent.

    So she is mixing up the degree of genetic basis for heritability of IQ by a child from parents with speculation about the genetic basis for an IQ gap between population groups. For instance, the Turkheimer, et al., article in Vox a couple of years ago said that IQ is heritable and the heritability is about half genetic, but the inter-race gap is probably entirely environmental. I don’t think this is true, but it could be true, because the two phenomenon are completely unrelated, something that Ms. Sehgal doesn’t understand, but that Turkheimer, Nisbett, and Harden did understand.

    https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-iq-sam-harris-science-free-speech

    Individual differences in intelligence are moderately heritable. [“Moderately heritable” means about 0.4 to 0.6 on a scale of zero (random) to one (perfect correlation). This is an instance of Turkheimer’s First Law of Behavioral Genetics, which is the basis of a feud between him and Robert Plomin since Plomin didn’t credit Turkheimer for it in his recent book.]

    Science is not designed for proving absolute negatives, but we will go this far: There is currently no reason at all to think that any significant portion of the IQ differences among socially defined racial groups is genetic in origin.

    The “balance of the evidence” quote is simply Herrnstein and Murray stating Turkheimer’s First Law in reference to IQ.

    She also sources to Stephen Jay Gould, and states that “There have been debates” about various things that are no longer subject to debate by experts of any political persuasion.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @ben tillman
  8. Altai says:

    From what I’ve seen from Nigerians, a another reason might be disdain for Islam due to the inherent sectarianism in the country. Currently a Northern Muslim, Buhari, is the president (It is effectively rotated between a Muslim Northerner and a Christian Southerner) and gets blamed for everything wrong with the country by non-Muslims. With the whole imbroglio about the travel ban on several Muslim countries and general talk about ISIS etc, probably reading quite well to Christians in the country, particularly when medieval-like raids by nomadic Muslim herders on settled Christian farming communities in Northern Sahel regions continue.

    So Christian Nigerians and Muslim Nigerians might differ here.

    • Agree: Ed
  9. In the highly protected bubble that our ruling class inhabits, the rise of White ethnocentric populism is the world’s hugest crisis. The world’s second hugest crisis is whatever is affecting Israeli national security at any given moment in time.

    However, once you get outside that bubble, you’re exposed to a different reality. In the real world, ethnocentric populism is a pretty normal thing. It’s common sense that a country’s people would prefer to maintain their ethnic predominance, and not want to be flooded with huge waves of incompatible foreign migration.

    Tribalism is normal everywhere – except in Western countries.

    In Western countries, the elites (politicians, media, oligarchs) constantly barrage us with propaganda about how White ethnocentrism is evil (except in Israel!), while Non-White ethnocentrism is virtuous and holy.

    It’s like being chained to a bed and being constantly injected with huge doses of LSD. You begin to see things. Often strange things. You have a weird sense of reality.

    Now imagine a non-medicated person has a conversation with the guy on the constant LSD drip. Imagine what that conversation would be like.

    That’s what happens when a foreigner and a Westerner speak about anything related to race, culture, or immigration.

    If you should notice this and attempt to remove your LSD drip, you get accused of “racism” and “xenophobia.”

    If you yell at the doctor to stop injecting you, you get accused of “anti-Semitism.”

    If you attempt to undo your bed chains and walk around normally like everyone else, Anti-Fa shows up and beats you up.

  10. nebulafox says:
    @Lot

    On the face of it, not always: Vietnam stands out as a contradictory example. It has no Islamic presence whatsoever, but the populace is generally well-disposed toward Trump. However, replace “Muslim” with “Chinese”, and you’ll see the dynamic isn’t all that different.

    You could also, to a lesser degree, use the PRC, where the average construction worker tends to respect, if not “like” Trump. China does have some well-documented problems with radical Islam, like most countries with a sizable Muslim presence, but it is hardly on the same level as what the Indians or Israelis or Filipinos have to deal with.

  11. @Dave Pinsen

    You’re talking about B’berg, and who knows, maybe he’s the one feeding these ‘damaging’ tapes.

  12. @Lot

    “Attention Fellow White People! Have you noticed that our enemies are your enemies too? Soon it will be time for action again!”

    • Replies: @Lot
  13. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Ask your Nigerian taxi or Uber driver about “black people” (aka African Americans)…. the KKK has less harsh opinions.

  14. @Lot

    For what it’s worth, Taiwan loves Trump for standing up to China.

  15. nebulafox says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The thing that stands out when you travel around the world is that human beings really do want the same things for the most part. The manifestations of the drives can differ pretty drastically depending on the culture, but the drives themselves remain pretty damned invariant.

    I think for all that we necessarily push-back against the dangerous fantasy that human beings are identical cogs and that race and culture aren’t irrelevant matters that can be deleted, we shouldn’t lose sight of this.

    >I think a Dem candidate who did this in a tactful way on race could clean up.

    Agreed. This extends to other issues. If Sanders can find a way to get back to immigration restrictionism, he’ll have this election the bag, no matter what Trump does. The problem is not health care or other “socialistic” policies, it is the nutty stuff that the upper-middle class gentry liberals are advocating on sociocultural stuff, above all on immigration because it doubles as an economic issue.

    (I’d prefer that he take a more pragmatic view of nuclear power, too, given the practical realities of the economy, but you take what you get in life.)

    I personally find that stressing the fact that this in no way is going to effect people who are already US citizens tends to get people to not dismiss you as a nut. Nobody except our plutocratic elites and a bunch of nutty ideologues seriously wants the US population to increase to 400 million people, let alone 700.

    • Replies: @RudyM
    , @HammerJack
  16. @Mr McKenna

    …the immigration jackpot is achieved by finding an overweight white woman in the USA (okay, redundant) who wants to be treated like a queen…

    yes- there’s a reality show based entirely on this phenomenon:

  17. Ed says:

    Well there is one country that is desirous of not only Nigerian immigrants but immigrants in general, Canada. They allowed 12k Nigerians and 341k immigrants overall last year. Expect to do the same next year.

    https://qz.com/africa/1801529/over-12000-nigerians-moved-to-canada-in-2019/

    The exodus of Nigerian immigrants to Canada is showing no signs of slowing down.

    For the fifth year in a row, more Nigerians emigrated to Canada than the year before as data published by the Canadian government shows the number of Nigerians issued permanent resident permits has tripled since 2015. It’s a growth rate that outstrips some of Canada’s biggest sources of immigrants over the last five years, including India, China and Philippines.

    The rise in Nigerian immigrants heading to Canada reflects the North American country’s push to expand its labor force and lower the average age of its workers as its population advances in years. In 2019, Canada welcomed 341,000 immigrants in total (about 10,000 more it targeted) as part of its immigration policy to attract skilled workers.

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Jonathan Mason
  18. Sure, and I know a Nigerian Prince who will give you a million bucks if you lend him ten grand for a week or two.

  19. Spect3r says:
    @Anon

    I was in Mozambique last year (i know, not Nigeria, but still fits on this topic) and the way black people talk and act towards one another would make a KKK member sound like a girl scout.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  20. eah says:

    A couple of Nigerians found work in Jussie Smollett’s neck of the woods because of Trump.

  21. Jake says:

    Blacks in America are worse in almost every way that they would be if they were, say, Nigerians. Why? Because blacks in America are the spoiled brat product of white Liberals. The Yank WASP made the Negro Numinous in order to use Darkey as weapons and tools against non-WASP whites.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  22. bomag says:
    @Anon

    Individual differences in intelligence are moderately heritable…

    …There is currently no reason at all to think that any significant portion of the IQ differences among socially defined racial groups is genetic in origin.

    This is along the lines of the Lewontin fallacy, in that they are willing to admit differences between groups, but they play down such differences.

    But admitting any racial difference is a game-over moment.

  23. bomag says:
    @Ed

    the… country’s push to expand its labor force and lower the average age of its workers as its population advances in years.

    Apparently, a requirement for leadership in Canada is not knowing that immigrants grow old while netting out as economic sinks.

    Burning the village; always a crowd pleaser.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  24. @bomag

    No man, all those young vibrant doctors and engineers are swarming here to work hard and pay beaucoup taxes to fund generous retirement entitlements for wrinkly old YTs.

    It’s totally true. The (((media))) told me so.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  25. Jtgw says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Most black murder victims are also criminals. I’m not entirely convinced the homicide wave is a problem requiring massive new police intervention; seems more like natural population culling.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  26. Gunner says:

    If Nigerians were voting +50% for Republicans, the lefties would set up lynching squads at the airports.

  27. RudyM says:
    @nebulafox

    I think for all that we necessarily push-back against the dangerous fantasy that human beings are identical cogs and that race and culture aren’t irrelevant matters that can be deleted, we shouldn’t lose sight of this.

    I think this is important. It should be possible to hold both truths in balance. To go off in a tangential direction, I think it’s useful to remember the past artists and intellectuals on the right who had no problem with appreciating the cultural products of other races, ethnicities, and culture. Eliot, the monarchist, and Pound the fascist sympathizer both drew freely from other cultures, and seemed willing to embrace our shared humanity. There is nothing about wanting to preserve one’s own heritage which has to preclude giving some recognition to the heritage of others. It could be a mutual thing. (I suspect Herder would be helpful here, but I haven’t gotten very far in reading him.)

    If Sanders can find a way to get back to immigration restrictionism, he’ll have this election the bag, no matter what Trump does. The problem is not health care or other “socialistic” policies, it is the nutty stuff that the upper-middle class gentry liberals are advocating on sociocultural stuff, above all on immigration because it doubles as an economic issue.

    I think Sanders is way too far gone on the immigration issue. There is not going to be a reversal.

    I mostly agree that the big problem is the sociocultural policies people on the left are supporting, although I still have some hesitation about giving the federal government too much power. I think I’d prefer keeping private insurance as an option, although I don’t feel extremely strongly about it. But the Green New Deal is far too sweeping. It does too much at once, too much that needs to be debated carefully. I am for a mixed economy. I am not against the federal government intervening in the economy. I’d be in favor of trying out some sort of jobs guarantee program, and I agree with Yang that we need to be planning for the impact of automation, up to and including considering UBI down the road. But there has to be some private economic space as well.

    Actually, I am attracted Abba Lerner’s simple formulation: “alternatives to government employment are a safeguard of the freedom of the individual.” (And Lerner is sometimes labeled as a socialist.)

    But to return to the New Green Deal. I am very skeptical of man-made climate change claims. And I am worried about setting unrealistic goals for transitions to “clean” energy. It’s all too enormous of a change.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  28. @nebulafox

    This extends to other issues. If Sanders can find a way to get back to immigration restrictionism, he’ll have this election the bag

    Good point. Who would the Dem migration fanatics defect to, Trump?

    Trouble is, the Establishment is already gunning for him and if he got sensible about immigration he’d probably suffer another heart attack. And his veep (Amy?) will be another fanatic.

  29. Lot says:
    @HammerJack

    You got me. Now make it happen!

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  30. @Thomas

    Is there an English colonial who is famous to them who I have not heard of who adopted native Nigerian (or Uganda or whatever) polygamy customs and had like 20 or 30 native wives?

    Then there is this guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Bello_Abubakar

    Islam was big progress thereabout because they only permitted four wives.

  31. @Ed

    Well there is one country that is desirous of not only Nigerian immigrants but immigrants in general, Canada.

    Canada is a big open country with lots of natural resources and space for cows and cars, whereas the US is overcrowded, has vast lawless and impoverished cities, resources are stretched to the limit, the streets are strewn with garbage, and we are over run with rats.

    Trump has cut a planned federal employees pay raise citing “serious economic conditions” in the country, and the US has an insecure zone around parts of its southern border. Trump has also revealed in the past that dairy farmers in Wisconsin and upstate New York are getting “killed by NAFTA”. While the number of dairy farmer deaths is unknown, clearly we cannot afford to accept any more immigrants sucking at the teat.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-canada-milk-dairy-tariffs-protectionism-not-stand-a7701261.html

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-cuts-scheduled-federal-pay-raise-serious-economic-conditions.html

    The public story is that the US is doing great, but the hidden story, which seeps out every now and again, is that it is bordering on economic collapse, we have lost control of parts of our territory, farmers are being killed. Under the circumstances we need to hunker down and improve the security status of our own nation before we admit any more immigrants.

    Oh, Canada! You are so welcome.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  32. @Jtgw

    Most black murder victims are also criminals. I’m not entirely convinced the homicide wave is a problem requiring massive new police intervention; seems more like natural population culling

    This is actually true, but the situation in some cities is a bit analogous to the federal government of Pakistan not having proper control over the lawless tribal homelands of the northwest frontier.

    Besides which a fair number of people, some of them children and noncombatants, regularly get caught in the crossfire between warring tribal units, or gangs, as they are known in the US.

    • Replies: @jtgw
  33. @Spect3r

    I was in Mozambique last year (i know, not Nigeria, but still fits on this topic) and the way black people talk and act towards one another would make a KKK member sound like a girl scout.

    It is like that in Haiti too.

  34. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Nairaland, the gift what keep on givin man.

    “Let me use Germany as an example, this are the benefits of you get…

    1. Free education – kindergarten to university
    2. Top notch free health care service
    3. Child support and benefits – €194 for each child monthly
    4. State of the art infrastructures and facilities
    5. Excellent security
    and the list goes on.

    “In Nigeria reverse is the case”

    https://www.nairaland.com/5683503/debunking-myths-living-abroad

    Again, I can only laugh at the geniuses here who are certain that Our Forces Are on the Verge of a Glorious Victory. The wreckage hasn’t even begun yet.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  35. @Anon

    Yup.

    It’s the same when you ask any North African male of Berber, Arab, or Turk heritage what they think of the brothers….

  36. jtgw says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yeah for a bit I was persuaded that we need to go back to more proactive policing but that data about the criminality of the victims made me reconsider. Basically like with the Pakistan borders tribes we’re dealing with an essentially lawless and ungovernable population. Intervention is a waste of resources. Just need to allow law-abiding people to separate themselves and keep out the riff-raff. I sympathize with innocent people in those areas getting caught in cross-fire but it’s a war that cannot be won. Could perhaps be ameliorated by ending war on drugs and relaxing gun control to the extent that removes the profit incentive from the drug trade (prices are so high because of prohibition) and allows law-abiding people more ability to defend themselves and rely less on police that are either corrupt and brutal or have their hands tied by bad press and the federal consent decree.

  37. Mr. Grey says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Trump was pointing out Republican hypocrisy (about Bush keeping us safe), but a Democratic challenge the racialist narrative of the party would be threatening the very core of its existence, so the outcome may not be similar.

  38. Proves my theory : Nigerians love Donald Trumpelhoff.

  39. @Mr McKenna

    Again, I can only laugh at the geniuses here who are certain that Our Forces Are on the Verge of a Glorious Victory. The wreckage hasn’t even begun yet.

    It’s going to get a lot worse. I’m not sure it will ever get better.

    I’m terrified what the world will look like in two decades when I enter my 60s.

  40. @Anon

    I just finished reading TBC, and I didn’t remember that. Luckily I could search for “balance of the evidence” on the Kindle. In the beginning of the book (not in the notorious chapters 13, et seq.) the authors explain heritability, and the heritability of IQ, saying it’s probably about 60 percent.

    Of course “heritability of IQ [sic]” and the “genetic factor” of intelligence are very different things.

  41. @RudyM

    I agree with Yang that we need to be planning for the impact of automation, up to and including considering UBI down the road.

    Why would automation and UBI be linked? UBI is supposed to benefit people who HAVE jobs. Why would you ever want to subsidize unproductive people?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @RudyM
  42. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    Those who are desperate are more inclined towards evil?
    Current gov “welfare” programs have a huge “cliff” that induces “rational” recipients to stay dependent… around $40K I think.
    Eliminate that, while also ensuring that no one will starve to death, and that might yield results.
    Not sure, maybe there are solid objections. OBVIOUSLY inviting illegal immigrants undermines this…. but not sure why this doesn’t work.
    Maybe it is better to eliminate hurdles to temporary/sporadic/spot “work”?
    OBVIOUSLY “salaried” employment is an Orwellian trap. Can ANYONE with a salaried job speak freely? Of course not. Anyone who objects is a moron.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  43. @Jake

    On some level I feel sorry for American blacks, they are neither here nor there. They will never be regarded as fully a part of America but they will almost certainly never be accepted back into African society.

    Lagos isn’t actually that bad of a city, I know it is funny to call these countries shitholes, and I’m not arguing that Lagos is some kind of Wakanda, but it isn’t bad either. However if African Americans were to relocate to somewhere like Lagos, they would never assimilate and always have an air of superiority about them. I reckon American blacks commit more crime than Africans in Africa.

  44. There’s your low levels of black neuroticism right there.

  45. @Jonathan Mason

    Canada is a big open country with lots of natural resources and space for cows and cars, whereas the US is overcrowded, has vast lawless and impoverished cities, resources are stretched to the limit, the streets are strewn with garbage, and we are over run with rats.

    If Canada needed more workers, it would produce them itself. It has the raw materials.

  46. @Anonymous

    Those who are desperate are more inclined towards evil?
    Current gov “welfare” programs have a huge “cliff” that induces “rational” recipients to stay dependent… around $40K I think.
    Eliminate that, while also ensuring that no one will starve to death, and that might yield results.

    And that’s exactly what UBI would do: Remove the penalty for working. Doing so is “fair” and beneficial to current workers, and it also offers non-workers a chance to improve their lot one step at a time (as you suggest) with no economic disincentives.

  47. @Mr McKenna

    Plenty of skinny white women in the US. Pure boomer cope.

  48. RudyM says:
    @ben tillman

    As automation increases, I’m not sure it’s going to be possible to find work for everyone. I think we need to prepare for that. In my case, I see how my field has been affected by accelerated automation, and I am aware of the way my own physical limitations have made it more difficult for me to pursue new skill-sets. How many opportunities will remain for people who aren’t extremely high IQ, with an emphasis on strong math skills?

    I have not read much about UBI, so I may be making mistaken assumptions about what it’s really aimed at. The first time I came across the idea (long before more recent discussion of it), I don’t remember seeing it limited to being a benefit for workers.

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