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Former U.S. Ambassador To Mexico Calls Trump’s Immigration Policies ‘Un-American’
June 17, 2018 8:12 AM ET
JASON BRESLOWIn her first interview since resigning in May, former U.S. ambassador to Mexico, Roberta Jacobson, gives a blistering critique of the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration agenda. Jacobson tells NPR’s Lulu Garcia-Navarro enforcement actions that result in children being separated from their parents, as well as a recent decision to narrow the definition of what qualifies someone for asylum, are “draconian” and “un-American.”
By definition, as Americans, Mexicans are who we are.
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zuckerberg/sandberg types continue to promote open borders and brands themselves as progressive
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/zuckerberg-sandberg-children-migrant-families-652940
Of course, it would be ‘un-Mexican’ for Mexico to let these Central American families stay in Mexico and be given asylum there.
It’s not who Mexicans are.
Are you kidding me? I was watching the WGN-TV news this morning and they were showing a piece about the Chicago Pilsen Taco Fest. The Hispanic restauranter said he was raising money for the “illegal immigrants” at the Cermak Road Benito Juarez Academy, a Chicago School that once (and may still) flew a MEXICAN flag.
The invaders are colonisers and should be treated as such. They need to DEPORTED asap as family units. I never hear the obvious question to be asked of the invaders; why don’t you ask MEXICO for safe haven if you fear violence in your own country?
From Roberta Jacobson Wiki: Born Roberta Ann Steinfeld
Would you look at that: another (((rootless cosmopolitan))) supporting the zero-eth amendment.
/s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberta_S._Jacobson
Looks like Ms. Jacobson (((née Steinfeld))) never read the Naturalization Act of 1790…..
Lets give the Dems credit for their continual agitation for DACCA amnesties. They serve as a magnet to pull Central American youths here. All they need do is make an asylum claim. The truth of the claim is irrelevant.
This is the newest version of anchor babies. Now your anchor babies can be born in Central America in highland Indian villages.
Dems want an open borders policy for all youths who can get their feet onto US soil. Look at all the idiot Republicans (also some conservatives) raging on about Trump’s illegal alien family separation policy, which also went on under Obama. Even Laura Bush got into the act. This amounts to Republican approval for Democrat open borders for minors. Who come with real or faked parents. But many come alone and are known as unaccompanied minors. Dems want all minors who gets here to be legalized. This is Angela Merkel style rot, decline and madness.
The truth about separating kids at the border http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/the-truth-about-separating-kids-at-the-border.php
The truth about separating kids at the border, Part Two http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/the-truth-about-separating-kids-at-the-border-part-two.php
Somewhat OT but probably of interest to those south of the 49th parallel:
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-mans-boast-of-being-in-notorious-ms-13-gang-leads-to-deportation-order
My city just became a little less vibrant.
Eeyores where u at? Y’all were predicting Trump would fold the first time someone held up a crying brown baby and Your President still holding strong giving zero cares.
After a week of the most negative attention from the media I ever remember so far, tearjerker after tearjerker about babes ripped from their saintly parents’ arms into Texan concentration camps, what is the result:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/392817-poll-trump-approval-rating-ties-highest-point-of-his-presidency
The all time low in Trump’s approval was when he was pushing through his tax cut:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/223253/snapshot-trump-approval-tied-lowest-weekly-average.aspx
Could he really be so stupid as signing the Ryan amnesty bill his spokesman Raj Shah said he supported on Friday?
Lets just count the times since you ragequit so we have a maneagable number.
How diplomatic!
Dang, I can’t sit down. I’m blistered from her critique.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/392817-poll-trump-approval-rating-ties-highest-point-of-his-presidency
The all time low in Trump's approval was when he was pushing through his tax cut:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/223253/snapshot-trump-approval-tied-lowest-weekly-average.aspx
Could he really be so stupid as signing the Ryan amnesty bill his spokesman Raj Shah said he supported on Friday?Replies: @Glaivester, @Jack Hanson, @JimB, @Pericles
My hope is that this is like the Senate amnesty bill earlier this year – the goal is to maneuver things so that all of the Democrats vote against it, and enough Republicans so that it dies, but he can blame the Democrats.
People are being detained because Trump ended ‘catch and release’. Since minors are accompanying some of these adults, the minors must not be put into the same detention facility as the adults.
The solution that the globalists want is to go back to ‘catch and release’ because they know hardly anyone released will ever show up for their administrative hearing down the road. Which means the immivasion continues unabated.
You’ll note you can tell what is effective in curbing the immivasion and what is not by what policies are pulled and which ones are pushed. A physical wall, which we all know would curb border jumpers, is fought tooth and nail. While a virtual wall, like the Boeing boondoogle, is promoted.
Likewise ‘catch and release’ is as effective as the virtual wall. So the globalists want Trump to put it back. That’s why they are using the kids to pressure Trump to cave. If Trump keeps up with this policy long enough, there will probably be a noticeable effect in potential border crossers. If Trump folds, it will only encourage more.
https://twitter.com/cbseveningnews/status/1008886418956054530?s=21Replies: @Digital Samizdat
Since when has America cared about what its policies do to foreign children?
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here’s what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
Yemeni children can’t sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strike
This statement below seems completely true.
This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it’s just so disingenuous.
Is Steve Schmidt Jewish?
Maybe that's because they're not all that "American"? -- not really -- they certainly don't have the best interests of America and Americans at heart -- both the author of this piece and the main protagonist (Jacobson) are Jews -- not to mention the 'hate fact' that media elites are disproportionately Jews -- sooner or later, anyone interested in the 'national question' has to confront the 'Jewish question'.
And these 'elites' won't be living next to or sending their children to school with illiterate mestizos.
https://twitter.com/JBurtonXP/status/1008761687523102723
That's an absurd number for quite a few reasons. First, Iraq had about 20 million people in the 90s, a number which grew quite rapidly. If 25% of them were children that is a 10% death rate from "lack of medicine." Second, Iraq did not have a complete embargo, it was allowed to sell a lot of oil for food and medicine. And in the middle of the "Fertile Crescent" it was not too hard up for food. Third, Iraq isn't that backward, the WHO core medicines are all easy to produce and mostly pennies a dose. Far poorer and lower IQ nations than Iraq have large domestic drug industries focused on the basics.
Finally, Iraq always had the ability to end its hostile relationship with the West after its invasion of a Western ally. Any deaths caused by sanctions following the Gulf War are on the guy who started it.
As for Yemen, Iran backed a coup amd then rebellion against the internationally recognized government. The Saudis have their bad points, but supporting the legitimate government of Yemen isn't one of them.Replies: @Mr. Anon
This is as fair a comparison as yours. Will you have the integrity to live according to your previously stated implied principles? Or, at least, to reexamine them?Replies: @Mr. Anon
That's a nonsense statistic ginned up by Liberals back in the Bush administration, when they were still against war. That changed with Obama and it never changed back.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/eastern-shore/bs-md-crab-worker-lottery-20180618-story.html
Crabs rotting in the pot, apparently some of the processing factories actually found some Americans, and they are getting overtime pay.
Well…well…well…
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
I was talking to a person at work today who happened to do Arab translations while in the navy; amazingly, no knowledge of the USS Liberty existed in his experience. So an important an act like that is deliberately hidden from members of the military who have to decipher ostensible shady sources.
Jeff Sessions found his testicles at last. I’m impressed.
Now all he needs to do is fire Mueller and I’ll have regained all the respect for him I lost.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/392817-poll-trump-approval-rating-ties-highest-point-of-his-presidency
The all time low in Trump's approval was when he was pushing through his tax cut:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/223253/snapshot-trump-approval-tied-lowest-weekly-average.aspx
Could he really be so stupid as signing the Ryan amnesty bill his spokesman Raj Shah said he supported on Friday?Replies: @Glaivester, @Jack Hanson, @JimB, @Pericles
How many times has the media gaslit you now, Lot?
Lets just count the times since you ragequit so we have a maneagable number.
This has been one of the best media cycles. They’ve been going absolutely nuts on this, and it doesn’t seem to have moved the needle at all.
President Trump has been playing this pretty well, first standing his ground, then doubling down, and then creating a cool, popular red herring for good measure, the White Sharia Space Marines. Rest of the GOP, take notes (like the nerds you are) on how to deal with media outrage. It’s not hard.
Conservatives are countering with “Obama did the same exact thing” and “don’t like it, don’t try to illegally cross the border”. It’s such a fine sight to see.
Sounds too good to be true.
All these people barging in and suddenly the progs get it? Hmm.
I just see more and more bargers coming and coming. Italy says No, but Spain says yes. And they move up north.
As for US border… these browns are coming for material reasons. They are White Preferencists. They run from their own kind. They are Gringoists. They really see Gringo as better. So, even as they use gringo as ‘slur’, gringoism is their ideology.
It’s like MAGNIFICENT SEVEN mentality. These brownies need to be saved by the Great White Man, by El Gringo. Senor, por favor. Just like the helpless brownies in MAGNIFICENT SEVEN and opening of TOMBSTONE. Totally helpless on their own.
We are told these people need refugees from gangs. When whites faced outlaws in the West, they got men like Wyatt Earp and Wild Bill to clean things up. So, why are brownies so afraid to stand up for themselves. Even as they badmouth gringo, gringoism is their only solution.
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
Look, I am a combat veteran. The patch on our arm of the Stars & Stripes, to the extent it means anything like this (it mostly just means we are American soldiers, sailors, etc.) means we are…well… American sailors: we don’t torture or otherwise mistreat prisoners or conquered peoples, we (generally – some politicians were bastards, to be sure!) come to conquer and occupy, but to liberate and assist or defend, then leave; we are not aggressive or oppressive; we are all about people being able to decide their own fates form themselves. In short: we are the good guys. It’s one reason enemies have always readily surrendered to Americans and why mistreating them or acting like aggressive dicks recently has actually hurt our military – because now with eroded trust and faith in fairness people (especially impressed soldiers) otherwise inclined to readily surrender, knowing the U.S.A. is Good People, now reckon they may as well fight the bastards to the end, guerilla and terrorist style if need be…).
Sad.
Anyhow, that flag NEVER meant “we are dumbasses here to take responsibility for you and absolve you of agency and sovereignty to fix your own damned problems amongst yourselves once left in peace.”
If life sucks in Nicaragua, that is the fault of Nicaraguans, not Americans, and we sure as shit can’t fix it for them….
Jacobson tells NPR’s Lulu Garcia-Navarro enforcement actions that result in children being separated from their parents…
If it’s so important that the family unit be kept intact, why don’t they all just stay home?
Paul Manafort has been put in jail and separated from his children. Is that also a tragedy?
For decades Mexicans have been leaving their families in Mexico and sneaking into the US to make money. Were they concerned about abandoning their children when they did that?
Do liberals ever get hip to the fact that they’re constantly being played by the media, which tells them phony sob stories that are as manipulative as a tear-jerker movie? Find a stock photo of a Hispanic looking toddler crying, crop out the ice cream on the ground she just dropped, and tell the audience that she’s been yanked from the arms of her mother. Liberals will swallow it hook, lime, and sinker and stage a march on Washington.
Anybody else unsurprised there were no calls for Obama to send a “representative” Mexican-American to be ambassador to Mexico?
After several decades of mass Hispanic immigration & heroic efforts to give the newcomers a leg up in public institutions with affirmative action & other initiatives to promote “diversity,” I wonder how well represented Latinx-Americans are at the State Department and elsewhere in the deep state?
He should form a committee to investigate this.
What was “white sharia” about it?
Do you find these two counters lacking in certain ways? How so?
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
Great points.
Is Steve Schmidt Jewish?
If it's so important that the family unit be kept intact, why don't they all just stay home?
Paul Manafort has been put in jail and separated from his children. Is that also a tragedy?
For decades Mexicans have been leaving their families in Mexico and sneaking into the US to make money. Were they concerned about abandoning their children when they did that?
Do liberals ever get hip to the fact that they're constantly being played by the media, which tells them phony sob stories that are as manipulative as a tear-jerker movie? Find a stock photo of a Hispanic looking toddler crying, crop out the ice cream on the ground she just dropped, and tell the audience that she's been yanked from the arms of her mother. Liberals will swallow it hook, lime, and sinker and stage a march on Washington.Replies: @Anon
Good point.
The Statue of Liberty is crying.
you and Ms Jacobson seem to have the same concern. i invite you to spend a month once a year helping the children in the apalachies, Compton, mississippi delta, detroit, alabama country, georgia swampland, arkansas, or you could if so compelled in in aidng foreign children head south buy some property and set up shop.
ohhh wait, note: as a citizen of the US you are not permitted to own property in mexico, but they will certainly lease you a couple of acres to help children to your pocketbooks desire.
Just as Reagan quilted that fool Gorbachev into destroying his empire, these leftist vermin attempt to guilt us into handing over our country to them. No thanks. No more future democrat immigrants. I think we need to rethink how we do things here. The founding fathers never thought any one group could seize the means of information distribution the way these treasonous un-American democrats have. Late night television shouldn’t all be filled with propagandist liars. They should be removed from local television stations.
The wall is un-Israeli, Ms Steinfeld-Jacobson.
(((Jacobson))). Is the percentage of jewish Israeli State Department employees as high as the US State Dept?
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
the American political/media elites
Maybe that’s because they’re not all that “American”? — not really — they certainly don’t have the best interests of America and Americans at heart — both the author of this piece and the main protagonist (Jacobson) are Jews — not to mention the ‘hate fact’ that media elites are disproportionately Jews — sooner or later, anyone interested in the ‘national question’ has to confront the ‘Jewish question’.
And these ‘elites’ won’t be living next to or sending their children to school with illiterate mestizos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuBAWKIRH4Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Pericles, @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar, @EliteCommInc.
Tear down the Statue of Liberty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuBAWKIRH4Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Pericles, @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar, @EliteCommInc.
Look how much longer Gayle King’s ring finger is than her index finger. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that before.
http://www.handresearch.com/thumbs-up/oprah-winfrey-hands-up.jpg
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/392817-poll-trump-approval-rating-ties-highest-point-of-his-presidency
The all time low in Trump's approval was when he was pushing through his tax cut:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/223253/snapshot-trump-approval-tied-lowest-weekly-average.aspx
Could he really be so stupid as signing the Ryan amnesty bill his spokesman Raj Shah said he supported on Friday?Replies: @Glaivester, @Jack Hanson, @JimB, @Pericles
Fortunately, these junior scofflaws from Latin America look neither pathetic nor photogenic. They look like what they are — fat little moochers. This fact discredits the histrionic message of the media.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/392817-poll-trump-approval-rating-ties-highest-point-of-his-presidency
The all time low in Trump's approval was when he was pushing through his tax cut:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/223253/snapshot-trump-approval-tied-lowest-weekly-average.aspx
Could he really be so stupid as signing the Ryan amnesty bill his spokesman Raj Shah said he supported on Friday?Replies: @Glaivester, @Jack Hanson, @JimB, @Pericles
President Trump, be strong. The people stand with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuBAWKIRH4Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Pericles, @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar, @EliteCommInc.
Whose hair are you wearing, Gayle?
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
“The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died.”
That’s an absurd number for quite a few reasons. First, Iraq had about 20 million people in the 90s, a number which grew quite rapidly. If 25% of them were children that is a 10% death rate from “lack of medicine.” Second, Iraq did not have a complete embargo, it was allowed to sell a lot of oil for food and medicine. And in the middle of the “Fertile Crescent” it was not too hard up for food. Third, Iraq isn’t that backward, the WHO core medicines are all easy to produce and mostly pennies a dose. Far poorer and lower IQ nations than Iraq have large domestic drug industries focused on the basics.
Finally, Iraq always had the ability to end its hostile relationship with the West after its invasion of a Western ally. Any deaths caused by sanctions following the Gulf War are on the guy who started it.
As for Yemen, Iran backed a coup amd then rebellion against the internationally recognized government. The Saudis have their bad points, but supporting the legitimate government of Yemen isn’t one of them.
People who bring their children along when they commit a crime = perfect saints.
Don’t child services often intervene for a lot less?
My fear with immigration has always been that while restricting it is undoubtably popular, that restriction may only have the popularity of tax cuts or government spending increases. Which is to say that masses of people will support it but they’ll also support its antithesis: in this case, soft treatment of illegals.
When Gaza residents tried to march into Israel and Israeli soldiers shot them, Israel demonstrated that it would maintain that border.
The detestable fact is that if your country were facing a similar dilemma and you could not support such action, you are a have your cake and eat it type of person. Just as those who vote for more government spending and also to cut taxes.
I suspect that we’ll find out if contemporary Western populations have the required integrity now that Salvini is Minister of the Interior in Italy. Trump has been feeling around the edges and it seems unclear either way.
Of course, a really forward thinking and cohesive elite would not bet everything on the integrity of the popular will and would take the required actions and keep them out of the public mind. But I don’t think our countries are really able to do that, at least domestically.
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
Every time you buy a coffee in a cafe rather than waiting to make a filter cup at home, you are condemning a child to die of horrible disease by not donating the the cost differential to save them.
This is as fair a comparison as yours. Will you have the integrity to live according to your previously stated implied principles? Or, at least, to reexamine them?
There is a vast difference between not buying food or medicine, or whatever for children on the other side of the world, and telling that country where those children live that they may not do so as they see fit.Replies: @Tyrion 2
Let’s hooe
The solution that the globalists want is to go back to 'catch and release' because they know hardly anyone released will ever show up for their administrative hearing down the road. Which means the immivasion continues unabated.
You'll note you can tell what is effective in curbing the immivasion and what is not by what policies are pulled and which ones are pushed. A physical wall, which we all know would curb border jumpers, is fought tooth and nail. While a virtual wall, like the Boeing boondoogle, is promoted.
Likewise 'catch and release' is as effective as the virtual wall. So the globalists want Trump to put it back. That's why they are using the kids to pressure Trump to cave. If Trump keeps up with this policy long enough, there will probably be a noticeable effect in potential border crossers. If Trump folds, it will only encourage more.Replies: @Ed, @Clyde
Evidently word is getting out to potential New Americans and preventing them from coming here. Of course the media presents this as a bad thing.
The real problem is the flood of unaccompanied minors coming across. They come here without a parent. People smugglers bring them across Mexico to our border. No one is calling them what they are, illegal aliens from Central America. We need to keep them from getting onto US soil, make them Mexico’s headache,
The solution that the globalists want is to go back to 'catch and release' because they know hardly anyone released will ever show up for their administrative hearing down the road. Which means the immivasion continues unabated.
You'll note you can tell what is effective in curbing the immivasion and what is not by what policies are pulled and which ones are pushed. A physical wall, which we all know would curb border jumpers, is fought tooth and nail. While a virtual wall, like the Boeing boondoogle, is promoted.
Likewise 'catch and release' is as effective as the virtual wall. So the globalists want Trump to put it back. That's why they are using the kids to pressure Trump to cave. If Trump keeps up with this policy long enough, there will probably be a noticeable effect in potential border crossers. If Trump folds, it will only encourage more.Replies: @Ed, @Clyde
I believe Trump will tough this one out. That it will die down withing ten days.
Former U.S. ambassadors are getting a lot of air time these days. A former U.S. ambassador to Canada has been making the rounds on television since Trump pissed off Canada. Now former U.S. ambassadors to Mexico get their moment in the spotlight. Too bad their aren’t any former U.S. ambassadors to North Korea to complain about current events.
What part of the word illegal is hard for these people to grasp?
Send them all home now. I don’t care how much it costs.
Most of the countries providing illegals have long been abusive and callous in their handling of their own illegals whenever they felt like cracking down on them. Yet they’ve never been expected to engage in civilized behavior, a huge double standard. They’re currently using the children as a sympathy prop. This crackdown has been long overdue and should work it’s way through the country to dislodge all these lawbreakers who’ve embedded themselves everywhere. Is obeying American law un-American?
Its hard to understand why a Protestant country doesn’t jump for joy to receive the failures of Catholic countries. Can any0ne point to a successful Catholic former colony? Bueller?
*At Mexican independence, it was wealthier per capita than the US.
Why doesn’t Chuck Schumer, Pelosi, etal and their media minions (Maddow, O’Donnell etc.) adopt/sponsor some of these families and put their money where their mouths are? And stop presuming to lecture the rest of us.
They claim they have to bring the kids along for safety reasons as they are fleeing Central American gangs like MS-13. If so, they should not be allowed into the United States as we are already infested with such gangs. Maybe it is safer if they stay in Mexico, as long as they stay away from the narco gangs.
While all this brouhaha is going on our southern border, with the government separating parents from their children (something that governments in the US routinely do to american citizens), Israel is shooting people who rush their border. I’ve seen U.S. Senators waxing indignant about the latino kids who are temporarily being separated from thier parents; I haven’t seen them indignant about Palestinians who have been permanently separated from their arms, legs, and heads.
That's an absurd number for quite a few reasons. First, Iraq had about 20 million people in the 90s, a number which grew quite rapidly. If 25% of them were children that is a 10% death rate from "lack of medicine." Second, Iraq did not have a complete embargo, it was allowed to sell a lot of oil for food and medicine. And in the middle of the "Fertile Crescent" it was not too hard up for food. Third, Iraq isn't that backward, the WHO core medicines are all easy to produce and mostly pennies a dose. Far poorer and lower IQ nations than Iraq have large domestic drug industries focused on the basics.
Finally, Iraq always had the ability to end its hostile relationship with the West after its invasion of a Western ally. Any deaths caused by sanctions following the Gulf War are on the guy who started it.
As for Yemen, Iran backed a coup amd then rebellion against the internationally recognized government. The Saudis have their bad points, but supporting the legitimate government of Yemen isn't one of them.Replies: @Mr. Anon
Madeleine Albright didn’t have any problem with the contention. She did not counter with “that’s an absurd number” or “that is scurrilous propaganda”, or “that simply is not true”. She replied by saying “we think the price is worth it”.
This is as fair a comparison as yours. Will you have the integrity to live according to your previously stated implied principles? Or, at least, to reexamine them?Replies: @Mr. Anon
No, it is not a fair comparison. It is sophistry.
There is a vast difference between not buying food or medicine, or whatever for children on the other side of the world, and telling that country where those children live that they may not do so as they see fit.
I don't think anyone would say that nationalism is sophism, especially in the weak form I was using it.Replies: @Mr. Anon
That was the plan all along with NAFTA: establish the United States of North America, encompassing Mexico, the former USA and Canada.
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died.
That’s a nonsense statistic ginned up by Liberals back in the Bush administration, when they were still against war. That changed with Obama and it never changed back.
Sailer, you’re a dishonest piece of shit, but you knew that.
I can't exactly agree with Tucker on this one. The ruling class doesn't actually care about foreigners, it just hates non-liberal whites. Foreigners are just a handy stick to beat non-liberal whites with, and their importation dispossesses the hated white working class.
Trump needs to pivot soon to explain to the American people how “sanctuary cities/states” work in conjunction with “catch and release” utterly frustrate any attempt at border and immigration enforcement because the “released” immediately flee to jurisdictions that interfere with ICE and skip out on their hearings. The “sanctuary cities/states” benefit by increased electoral power via the census counting illegals for apportionment, electoral college votes, and Congressional spending appropriations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuBAWKIRH4Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Pericles, @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar, @EliteCommInc.
Gayle King, consort of Africanus sorceress Oprah.
https://twitter.com/cbseveningnews/status/1008886418956054530?s=21Replies: @Digital Samizdat
What’s really funny in this case is that some of these progs are so far gone that they actually think scaring away potential illegal immigrants is some knock-down argument against enforcing immigration law! They may be in for a rude awakening come the next presidential election.
Behind this border/immigration hubbub is the demographic change sought by white elites and our lovely black and brown neighbors. Hey Unz readers (those of you who are white), you have been targeted for extermination.
Big headline:
Democrat repeats Democrat Party line
Well that settles it! 😉
Macao, Quebec. Rwanda’s successful by African standards, Lebanon and Morocco are (and Libya was) by Arab standards. Algeria, Belgian Congo, Indochina and Latin America* were successful as colonies.
*At Mexican independence, it was wealthier per capita than the US.
There is a vast difference between not buying food or medicine, or whatever for children on the other side of the world, and telling that country where those children live that they may not do so as they see fit.Replies: @Tyrion 2
You’re arguing from a libertarian individualist perspective, I’m arguing from a nationalist one that holds that if a country wishes to cease trade with you, that is their business.
I don’t think anyone would say that nationalism is sophism, especially in the weak form I was using it.
2.) I am not arguing from a "libertarian individualist perspective". And the US boycott of Iraq in the 90s was not a nationlist project. The nation benefited by it not one bit.Replies: @Tyrion 2
What could be more American than the Portogee Billy Martin punching an Illinois marshmallow salesman in a French restaurant because his South Dakota hunting companion, a Chinese-born restaurateur, hadn’t room in his inn and sent him over there?
That’s as Yankee as you get.
After the end of the first Iraq War, America imposed sanctions on Iraq. The sanctions deprived Iraqi children of medicine they needed. 576,000 Iraqi children died. Nobody cared. Here's what Secretary of State Madeline Albright said. Republicans and Democrats were okay with that.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
The current Iraq War has created between 1 million and 3.5 million orphans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjL14ATK30
Nobody cares.
The US/UK/Saudi coalition is currently bombing Yemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwwP3SiBIC8
Yemeni children can't sleep at night because the US/UK/Saudi coalition is unleashing so much carnage through its bombing campaign.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/drones-dream-yemeni-teenager-mohammed-tuaiman-death-cia-strikeThis statement below seems completely true.This tweet is also true.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1007233364938588160
For some reason, the above are never discussed by the American political/media elites. So when our political/media elites go on about how their hearts bleed for these children caught at the border, it's just so disingenuous.Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Autochthon, @Anon, @eah, @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @peterike, @Reg Cæsar
Like the Jewish polio vaccine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuBAWKIRH4Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Pericles, @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar, @EliteCommInc.
That’s from acid rain from an Ontario smokestack.
I think Trump is making a terrible political mistake with this family separation policy.
This morning I tuned in to my favorite classic rock station, which has been known to play “Shoot to Thrill” the day after a school shooting, and heard three solid minutes of the crying immigrant kids audio.
I’ve heard all the arguments for why the policy makes sense, and I don’t disagree with them, but the optics are very, very damaging. All he needed to do was set up some bullshit “family unification center” in a Holiday Inn somewhere and it would have shut everyone up.
What really concerns me is that he thought he could gin up this crisis and pin it on the Dems, so as to spur action on immigration. Nobody will ever believe that the Dems are the cause of immigrants’ problems. He should have known that. He is going to have to pull one of his famous return-from-the-dead tricks after this one.
” Roberta Jacobson, gives a blistering critique of the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration agenda. Jacobson tells NPR’s Lulu Garcia-Navarro enforcement actions that result in children being separated from their parents, as well as a recent decision to narrow the definition of what qualifies someone for asylum, are “draconian” and “un-American.”
Well Ms Jacobson,
There is a solution to that problem.
Don’t attempt to come to the US by violating the immigration laws with or without children.
you feel a need to help children — there are plenty right here in country or feel free to head across the border and offer your services – both are legal.
Here’s an idea: dump 15 million Black Africans – that can’t speak Spanish and have no job skills – in Mexico. The wealth gap between Mexico (richer than 70% of the world’s population) and Black Africa is much greater than the gap between the US and Mexico. Maybe then the Mexicans would understand. Because Mexicans aren’t racist at all….
“This is one of those moments that tells you everything about our ruling class. They care far more about foreigners than about their own people.”
I can’t exactly agree with Tucker on this one. The ruling class doesn’t actually care about foreigners, it just hates non-liberal whites. Foreigners are just a handy stick to beat non-liberal whites with, and their importation dispossesses the hated white working class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuBAWKIRH4Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Pericles, @SunBakedSuburb, @Reg Cæsar, @EliteCommInc.
Well ms King,
you and Ms Jacobson seem to have the same concern. i invite you to spend a month once a year helping the children in the apalachies, Compton, mississippi delta, detroit, alabama country, georgia swampland, arkansas, or you could if so compelled in in aidng foreign children head south buy some property and set up shop.
ohhh wait, note: as a citizen of the US you are not permitted to own property in mexico, but they will certainly lease you a couple of acres to help children to your pocketbooks desire.
Jacobson: ‘a recent decision to narrow the definition of what qualifies someone for asylum, are “draconian” and “un-American.”’
Yeah but, you know, I’m tired of all this jingoism. I no longer care about what policies are “un-American.” Being the avid, non-racist, woke multiculturalist I now am, I’m more worried about this country having policies that are un-Israeli, un-Japanese, and un-Korean. That’s what would really worry me.
“Trump needs to pivot soon to explain to the American people how “sanctuary cities/states” work in conjunction”
Announce a program to deport huge numbers of poor blacks into left wing, democrat upper crust areas like Martha’s Vineyard. That will shut them up. And by the way, I’m completely serious about that.
That’s a sign of high testosterone. It’s more common among men. Maybe Gayle is the butch half of the relationship with Oprah, whose finger lengths are more typically female.
I don't think anyone would say that nationalism is sophism, especially in the weak form I was using it.Replies: @Mr. Anon
1.) Then you argue poorly. If that was your point, it was far from clear.
2.) I am not arguing from a “libertarian individualist perspective”. And the US boycott of Iraq in the 90s was not a nationlist project. The nation benefited by it not one bit.
2.) I am not arguing from a "libertarian individualist perspective". And the US boycott of Iraq in the 90s was not a nationlist project. The nation benefited by it not one bit.Replies: @Tyrion 2
I’m going to be frank. It is obvious that you are not currently capable of holding a conversation on this level. But don’t worry, this level isn’t especially high. I suggest you read a few great books. Perhaps start here: https://www.amazon.com/Metaphysics-Great-Books-Philosophy/dp/0879756713.
“He should have known that. He is going to have to pull one of his famous return-from-the-dead tricks after this one.”
He shouldn’t have to. Any nation that can’t summon the will to defend itself but, instead, plunges itself into moralizing in the face of invasion deserves its fate.
That’s some pretty straight stuff from a mainstream news source. Good for Tucker Carlson.
This morning I tuned in to my favorite classic rock station, which has been known to play "Shoot to Thrill" the day after a school shooting, and heard three solid minutes of the crying immigrant kids audio.
I've heard all the arguments for why the policy makes sense, and I don't disagree with them, but the optics are very, very damaging. All he needed to do was set up some bullshit "family unification center" in a Holiday Inn somewhere and it would have shut everyone up.
What really concerns me is that he thought he could gin up this crisis and pin it on the Dems, so as to spur action on immigration. Nobody will ever believe that the Dems are the cause of immigrants' problems. He should have known that. He is going to have to pull one of his famous return-from-the-dead tricks after this one.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @rob
If we forever shy away from doing anything that is even remotely percieved as being “mean”, then we will never be able to do anything ‘mean’. And doing ‘mean’ things – upholding laws, defending borders, enforcing standards – is part of maintaining a civilization.
This morning I tuned in to my favorite classic rock station, which has been known to play "Shoot to Thrill" the day after a school shooting, and heard three solid minutes of the crying immigrant kids audio.
I've heard all the arguments for why the policy makes sense, and I don't disagree with them, but the optics are very, very damaging. All he needed to do was set up some bullshit "family unification center" in a Holiday Inn somewhere and it would have shut everyone up.
What really concerns me is that he thought he could gin up this crisis and pin it on the Dems, so as to spur action on immigration. Nobody will ever believe that the Dems are the cause of immigrants' problems. He should have known that. He is going to have to pull one of his famous return-from-the-dead tricks after this one.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @rob
The blame the dems idea seems too stupid for Trump, who at least wasn’t that dumb when he was a candidate. Here’s a 4d chess explanation. He says,‘I’ve looked into the issue, and it turns out that the policy was my Attorney General’s idea. That’s why I’m firing Sessions and replacing him with [whoever].’ Trump looks good and gets praised for getting rid of Sessions! Which he clearly wants to do, especially in a way that won’t lead to obstruction of justice charges. OTOH, it could be the 0-dimensional chess of senility.
Trump promised us he would “end DACA on Day 1 of his Trump Administration” . . . then he waffled . . . he has (and we have) been paying the price ever since.
He should’ve just dropped the hammer.
This is for all the marbles, there is no “compromise”. Trump needs to quit trying to deal with the opposition and just crush them.
Over at the FaithAndHeritage dot com website, a great quote from the post “If Roseanne’s Not Good Enough”:
Ambassador Jacobsen said that due to the horrible experience of Jews being denied membership at American Country Clubs that was like an American Holocaust we have to turn Mayberry, North Carolina into Brazil. Do it for the future, he said.
Would you look at that: another (((rootless cosmopolitan))) supporting the zero-eth amendment.
/s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberta_S._JacobsonReplies: @ATBOTL
Has Steinfeld/Jacobson has written critical pieces about Israel’s treatment of illegal immigrants?
Msryland
I’ll be frank. You are a tiresome jerk. I haven’t noticed any particular wisdom issuing forth from your face-hole, and I’m reasonably certain I’m a damned-sight smarter than are you. Shove your smarmy condescension.