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iSteve commenter Sergeant Prepper adds:

If you wait until the child is six months old, it may well be too late. When my wife went for an ultrasound scan, my unborn boy made the OK gesture. White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot’s head before he took his first breath. The only way to prevent this is to think of Critical Race Theory while you’re getting your wife pregnant.

 
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  1. The best argument against abortion must surely be that the baby must be kept alive for mandatory anti-racist education directly after birth.

    • LOL: Cortes, Olorin
  2. Before the appearance of Sesame Street, how the heck did parents cope?

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Mom would open the back door and say, "Come home by dinnertime."
  3. When should you begin indoctrinating your child about race? In the womb. When you’re moving to your new home, speak to your pregnant wife’s belly about “We had to move to a good school district on your behalf”.

  4. If you wait until the child is six months old, it may well be too late. When my wife went for an ultrasound scan, my unborn boy made the OK gesture. White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot’s head before he took his first breath. The only way to prevent this is to think of Critical Race Theory while you’re getting your wife pregnant.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    This comment doesn't just deserve a mention, but also a Gold Box! Why are you so tough with those, Steve? I got one from Fred Reed one time, but I don't expect another from him.
    ;-}

    Anyway, good one, Sarge.
    , @spirit of the fighing 69th
    Only abortion can prevent racism, only assisted suicide can eliminate it. That's where these idiots are going. Seems that white lefties are more aroused against "racism" from their gated communities than the supposed victims. Having worked around numerous blacks "racism" is not their main concern, a decent job and a safe neighborhood is.
    , @Desiderius
    That’s one way to prevent PE, or any E for that matter.
  5. “Start your “talk” using only a golf cart battery, not the standard marine deep cycle. After all, babies are precious little angels! Except the white ones.”

  6. We used to fool ourselves in to thinking our human brains had higher intelligence but it seems that it can swing 180 degrees in the opposite direction to higher idiocy.

    Does a Zebra think it ought to introduce diversity to its 6 month old foal?
    “Here, I will introduce you to these Lions and Hyenas so our family can be more diverse!”
    “Meet these two spirited and non-binary Giraffes!”.
    “Later a trans-gendered Leopard will come by and read you a story!”

    • Replies: @Sergeant Prepper
    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop's fables;-)
  7. “Experts say.”

    Hilarious.

    But it’s all our cognitive elite has to hear to climb onboard any ship of fools.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    You hit a nerve with your first three words. I laughed & laughed. I still do.
    , @Ibound1
    Who are the “experts” that say you should speak to your child about race, religion and social class at 6 months? Are these the same “experts” who got pre-school children to testify that witches were torturing them in underground caverns? Did the experts switch from Satanic pre-school covens to this? I don’t know about the rest of you but if a parent spoke to a 6 month old about this, I would consider that evidence of insanity on the parent’s part and child abuse too.

    Who are these “experts”?

  8. At what age do the experts advise that we start talking to our children about gay sex? What age did they start talking to their 0.7 children about gay sex?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, that's just what I was gonna bring up. By 1st grade, these teachers must be saying "person" for people of known sex, as my elementary school kid does this, as in "we had a person come in to tell us about the rules of the playground" rather than "we had a man come in ..." or "we had a lady come in...". He even does with kids part of the time, and he sure didn't get it from us.

    Per Peak Stupidity's recent post, K-12 LGBT, I had thought this was simply a feminism thing, a little beyond calling all teachers "Ms." and so forth. I had an "AHAAAA!" moment and realized this is probably a subtle way to start dropping the pronouns and and sex designations. It's not like a big plan, but likely just all of them being the most PC one can be for the current year. They can't exactly start teaching about a woman getting a taxpayer funded adedictome.*

    Feminism is old hat now. This is part of the LGBT agenda. This sort of thing is something you have to keep fighting, and it's getting freaking annoying.

    .

    * Though the kid does love this joke!
  9. We are a conquered people

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    We concurred; ergo, we were conquered.

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
    , @MBlanc46
    And Walt Kelly was correct about who did the conquering.
    , @Counterinsurgency

    We are a conquered people
     
    Please take a look at Kevin McDonald's _Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_, search Amazon.com . He does an excellent job of showing the internal divisions that make it possible for Whites to abdicate control of the West to non-Western entities. Essentially, the abdication was sold as a specific moral and religious duty that can be shown to have been extremely influential in the West as far back as the 1700s.
    If you want to be un-conquered, you have to be able to counter (starting with convincing yourself yourself) the arguments and people responsible for selling the abdication to the Western public. Otherwise you will be defeated by the internal feeling of moral and religious duty, or by groups who believe they have that moral and religious duty.
    On the bright side [1], duty isn't well thought of, nor is morality nor religion, so the effect of the moral/religions argument is weakening.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] a pretty dark bright side.
  10. From the article:

    “…children are hard-wired to notice differences at a young age…”

    “there’s all sorts of research that suggest that children very early on notice definitely physical differences between different people and they make meaning of those differences. And there’s discrimination very early on.”

    “…infants as young as six months old showed a preference for members of their own race and against members of different races. And this us vs. them mentality extends beyond physical differences.”

    “Babies did seem to care more about who was like them than they cared about niceness and meanness,”

    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Totalitarians have always dreamed that if you begin indoctrination early enough you can change human nature. The Communists were going to create Homo Sovieticus who lacked the greed of capitalist man. The Wokists will breed Homo Nonracistus who will lack the fear of the other. Yes, it's true that these are all self-preservation instincts that were bred into man over the last million years but we don't need these cave man vestiges in our new enlightened age - they are as useless as the appendix and only cause us trouble.
    , @istevefan

    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?
     
    Granted they use the term preferences instead of the stronger term hate, so I suppose some might quibble with my comment. But doesn't this put to rest the suggestion that humans are not born to hate and instead are taught to hate? I hear liberals say this when suggesting that prejudice, hate, etc. is something learned from corrupted parents and elders. They claim children have no concept of these things until a bad adult teaches it to them.
    , @Hodag
    When my daughter said in the car after school in 1st grade that the black girls in her class seemed very loud...I said get used to it.
    , @advancedatheist
    I think we could try the meme of equating racism with green energy, and racial equality with using fossil fuels. The former pairing works in harmony with nature, while the latter pairing inflicts violence on nature.
    , @VivaLaMigra
    In answer to your Q, "Yes, b/c it's the Current Year!"
  11. Heard “NPR brings you unconventional expertise!” during a funding drive today.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    One of the most maddening things they do during pledge drives is to babble about how honest and fair and accurate they are. A local public radio show advertised a segment about combatting "racism" (ie, any sort of right-wing politics), and then immediately followed it up with a discussion about how we can come together and be civil. A while back they had two congresscritters mutterimg something about civility and sanity in politics -- neither called out or mentioned the voteless "impeachment inquiry" about nothing. What we have here is energetic sociopaths who bring up virtue in order to both defame their enemies and look good to low-information listeners who don't think things through. There was the guy superficially criticizing FaceBook but really suggesting they be given more power. There's the sanity and racism angles. There "Republicans" like Jeff Flake and Willard Romney and Guac Bush talking about "conservative values."
  12. So progressives now support pure and simple child abuse. Why am I not surprised,

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    It’s not necessarily abuse, that would depend on what you said to them. If I was still young enough to have small children at home I would be talking to them about race, class and gender, you betcha!
  13. The authorities must begin distributing newborns randomly. A village is necessary.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    Don't give them any ideas. I'm willing to be dollars to pesos that if you asked Beto that during a town hall, he'd agree.
    , @The Alarmist

    The authorities must begin distributing newborns randomly. A village is necessary.
     
    You mean, like rations? Aren't we supposed to eat the babies to save the world or something?
  14. White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot’s head before he took his first breath. The only way to prevent this is to think of Critical Race Theory while you’re getting your wife pregnant.

    That also helps to, you know, last longer….

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    If you're a liberal,it may speed you up!
  15. @Aardvark
    We used to fool ourselves in to thinking our human brains had higher intelligence but it seems that it can swing 180 degrees in the opposite direction to higher idiocy.

    Does a Zebra think it ought to introduce diversity to its 6 month old foal?
    "Here, I will introduce you to these Lions and Hyenas so our family can be more diverse!"
    "Meet these two spirited and non-binary Giraffes!".
    "Later a trans-gendered Leopard will come by and read you a story!"

    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop’s fables;-)

    • Replies: @Barnard
    Go look at the kids section of your local Barnes and Noble, the propaganda books in it aren't real far off from this now.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop’s fables;-)
     
    For what it's worth, the first translation of Bambi into English was by none other than Whittaker Chambers.

    During his red-and-pink, i.e., commie-homo phase, no less.


    https://whittakerchambers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/bambi1928_480x240.png

  16. I can see now where my parents went wrong. I can remember the day clearly, like it was yesterday. There I was at five months and thirty days-old, absently rolling around in my cot, when I again heard vaguely familiar voices emanating from this rectangular object in the corner of the room. This occurred regularly enough that I was beginning to get used to it. So as usual, I gazed at the box, bemused by both sight and sound. The next day, it happened again. Only this time — remember, I’d just turned six months — I became aware of something I hadn’t noticed before. One of the people on TV, he didn’t look like either of my parents, or anyone else I’d ever seen. The experience was so jarring I began to cry uncontrollably. Yes, he was a black man.

    My mother — that bitch — do you think she said anything about it? Sure, she rushed over to mollify me, but did she try to explain to me that even though we looked so different, that even though we might prefer people who like us and that he might prefer people who looked like him, that even though what I’d some day learn was called “science” had determined there were important differences between us, that despite all this, we were actually equal — indeed that, since people like us had at one time been cruel to people like him, he was, for the time being, in a sense “more equal” than us, and that for the foreseeable future we’d have to treat him preferentially until such time as, well… nobody really knows… but till whenever anyway, and all of this despite the fact that this thing called “science” gave nobody any real reason to think actual equality could ever be achieved, and that some day my life prospects would in large part hinge on my ability to feign ignorance of this knowledge. Do you think my mother explained any of that to me? Of course not. So is it any wonder I’m so messed up today?

    • LOL: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    It would be funny if your first word was the "N" word.
    , @bomag

    and that for the foreseeable future we’d have to treat him preferentially until such time as, well… nobody really knows…
     
    I guess we have to wait for NPR to tell us when we can stop.
  17. @Laurence Whelk
    From the article:

    “...children are hard-wired to notice differences at a young age...”

    "there's all sorts of research that suggest that children very early on notice definitely physical differences between different people and they make meaning of those differences. And there's discrimination very early on."

    “...infants as young as six months old showed a preference for members of their own race and against members of different races. And this us vs. them mentality extends beyond physical differences.”

    "Babies did seem to care more about who was like them than they cared about niceness and meanness,"
     
    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?

    Totalitarians have always dreamed that if you begin indoctrination early enough you can change human nature. The Communists were going to create Homo Sovieticus who lacked the greed of capitalist man. The Wokists will breed Homo Nonracistus who will lack the fear of the other. Yes, it’s true that these are all self-preservation instincts that were bred into man over the last million years but we don’t need these cave man vestiges in our new enlightened age – they are as useless as the appendix and only cause us trouble.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    In other words, Lysenkoism never goes out of style.
  18. That video of a Vice editor throwing an adult toy at a wall to determine a headline should be updated with a Great Foundation Society Fixer throwing adult toys at walls with things like “Get Families To Fight More,” “Accuse Trump of Something We’re Screamingly Guilty Of,” “Alienate Longtime Supporters,” “Demand that Children Grasp Abstract Concepts Years Before Possible,” or “Run Hillary Again.”

    • Replies: @Kronos
    https://youtu.be/x6MxvzliG6I

    It’s a great video.
  19. I read “The Autobiography of Malcolm X” my son when he was in diapers, but when I got to the part where Malcolm breaks with Elijah Muhammad, he bit me.

  20. @Jack D
    Totalitarians have always dreamed that if you begin indoctrination early enough you can change human nature. The Communists were going to create Homo Sovieticus who lacked the greed of capitalist man. The Wokists will breed Homo Nonracistus who will lack the fear of the other. Yes, it's true that these are all self-preservation instincts that were bred into man over the last million years but we don't need these cave man vestiges in our new enlightened age - they are as useless as the appendix and only cause us trouble.

    In other words, Lysenkoism never goes out of style.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    If you think you're right, it's the logical conclusion, and if you know you're wrong, you bet it can "work" long enough for you to Biden some cash.
  21. @216
    We are a conquered people

    We concurred; ergo, we were conquered.

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

  22. https://deadhomersociety.com/2014/06/19/quote-of-the-day-1915/

    “Hmm, if I didn’t know better, I’d swear he was trying to moon us.” – Dr. Hibbert

  23. @Per Desteen
    Heard "NPR brings you unconventional expertise!" during a funding drive today.

    One of the most maddening things they do during pledge drives is to babble about how honest and fair and accurate they are. A local public radio show advertised a segment about combatting “racism” (ie, any sort of right-wing politics), and then immediately followed it up with a discussion about how we can come together and be civil. A while back they had two congresscritters mutterimg something about civility and sanity in politics — neither called out or mentioned the voteless “impeachment inquiry” about nothing. What we have here is energetic sociopaths who bring up virtue in order to both defame their enemies and look good to low-information listeners who don’t think things through. There was the guy superficially criticizing FaceBook but really suggesting they be given more power. There’s the sanity and racism angles. There “Republicans” like Jeff Flake and Willard Romney and Guac Bush talking about “conservative values.”

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
    If I was a republican governor/mayor/whoever I would try to do a takeover of the state public radio station and create some kind of "fairness" doctrine that forces the station to run/hire conservative view points in proportion to their size in the electorate. Then I would hire conservatives + some rapid leftist palestinian american to do stories on the USS liberty etc.
  24. @Oleaginous Outrager
    In other words, Lysenkoism never goes out of style.

    If you think you’re right, it’s the logical conclusion, and if you know you’re wrong, you bet it can “work” long enough for you to Biden some cash.

  25. The War Against Human Nature begins before the baby is even conceived. For instance, you really shouldn’t let white male sperm near your eggs unless absolutely necessary. But that’s another subject.

    Talking isn’t something a human can comprehend on a sufficiently complex level until…well, I don’t know when. 6 months seems early, though you want to get a jump on “Eww, mommy, that man’s skin is yucky!”

  26. Peppa Pig’s Pink Privilege.

  27. Steve–hope it’s not getting smokey there, from Saddleridge across the Valley

    … and you can sit back, have a beer, watch the glow and pray for rain.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Yeah, talk about mainstream media blind spots, apparently Northern LA suburbs are on fire, 50 fires identified in a few hours, San Francisco is in tarantula mating season, PG&E has cut power up north with at least obe death from a guy depending on an oxygen machine, and there's chatter that the power may be cut in places in the SoCal (to prevent wildfires like happened a year ago).
    , @Alden
    I’ve been smelling smoke since about 11/am and it’s getting worse. The fires really dry the air which dries the eyes nose and mouth.
  28. “Social class”

    As opposed to what? Taxonomic class?

    I realize “social” is appended to nouns willy-nilly, but I wonder why we’re modifying class in this manner. We’ve been easing off economic class as something of interest for a long while, in favor of other aspects of social socialistical socialmismses. For instance what kind of external genitalia you’d prefer to possess.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Maybe explain to your child they don't want to end up as a Social Distortion song?
    , @Daniel Williams

    “Social class” As opposed to what? Taxonomic class?
     
    Could be character class. My buddies and I gave the kids from the fighter school nearby a pretty hard time back in the unenlightened eighties (we were budding magic-users).
  29. In Brave New World babies were socially conditioned by giving them electric shocks.

    NPR should do a follow up and interview researchers at the Stanley Milgram Liberal School of Progressive Childhood Education (mission statement: Out with Dr Spock- in with SHOCK).

    Hmmm (thinking), any iSteve reader interested in going into business partnership with me to sell tasers to Babies R Us?

    (Dear iSteve Moderator, I’m just joking. I don’t need a business partner.)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    LOL!
    , @Autochthon
    Babies R Us is defunct, friend.

    https://youtu.be/-o-7MmhqNfA

    (I'd mention Woolworths, but I'm afraid it might be like telling the truth about the Easter Bunny to a toddler...let's just say you may want to sit down before you type their name into Google.)
  30. @Sergeant Prepper
    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop's fables;-)

    Go look at the kids section of your local Barnes and Noble, the propaganda books in it aren’t real far off from this now.

    • Agree: Rich, International Jew
  31. istevefan says:
    @Laurence Whelk
    From the article:

    “...children are hard-wired to notice differences at a young age...”

    "there's all sorts of research that suggest that children very early on notice definitely physical differences between different people and they make meaning of those differences. And there's discrimination very early on."

    “...infants as young as six months old showed a preference for members of their own race and against members of different races. And this us vs. them mentality extends beyond physical differences.”

    "Babies did seem to care more about who was like them than they cared about niceness and meanness,"
     
    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?

    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?

    Granted they use the term preferences instead of the stronger term hate, so I suppose some might quibble with my comment. But doesn’t this put to rest the suggestion that humans are not born to hate and instead are taught to hate? I hear liberals say this when suggesting that prejudice, hate, etc. is something learned from corrupted parents and elders. They claim children have no concept of these things until a bad adult teaches it to them.

  32. @dr kill
    The authorities must begin distributing newborns randomly. A village is necessary.

    Don’t give them any ideas. I’m willing to be dollars to pesos that if you asked Beto that during a town hall, he’d agree.

  33. @ChrisZ
    “Experts say.”

    Hilarious.

    But it’s all our cognitive elite has to hear to climb onboard any ship of fools.

    You hit a nerve with your first three words. I laughed & laughed. I still do.

  34. @ChrisZ
    “Experts say.”

    Hilarious.

    But it’s all our cognitive elite has to hear to climb onboard any ship of fools.

    Who are the “experts” that say you should speak to your child about race, religion and social class at 6 months? Are these the same “experts” who got pre-school children to testify that witches were torturing them in underground caverns? Did the experts switch from Satanic pre-school covens to this? I don’t know about the rest of you but if a parent spoke to a 6 month old about this, I would consider that evidence of insanity on the parent’s part and child abuse too.

    Who are these “experts”?

    • Replies: @Cortes
    The experts are “the principal people”.

    Like the Great Red Mother Warren...

    From Wikipedia

    A Cherokee language name for Cherokee people is Aniyvwiyaʔi (ᎠᏂᏴᏫᏯ), translating as "Principal People". Tsalagi (ᏣᎳᎩ) is the Cherokee word for Cherokee.[12]

    , @Dr. X

    Who are these “experts”?
     
    Same as all the other (((experts)))...
  35. I suggest using John Derbyshire’s “The Talk”, mild as it was, as a start. Then, when they hit 2 years, go full Paul Kersey on the facts of White-black relations. That’ll keep your kids safe.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    I told the Badwhite kids about the time they hit 6th grade that everything they have learned and are going to learn in school about race is a lie. Tell your teachers what they want to hear, then proceed on course.
  36. If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?

    A particular fallacy might arise here. It takes two forms.

    The first is that something being innate, inborn, natural, must mean it is good and right.

    The second, which is the first’s corollary, I guess, is that something being bad, immoral, depraved, wrong, must mean it is not natural or inborn.

    An hypothesis: conservatives fall more for the first statement, liberals for the second, though they’re two sides of the same coin.

    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
    I see your point. I am not saying that what is natural or most common is necessarily the best option. But why not investigate what advantages might lie in group preference? I know why not, because we have already decided that in-group preference is immoral, regardless of scientific evidence.
    , @William Badwhite

    The first is that something being innate, inborn, natural, must mean it is good and right.
     
    From an evolutionary perspective, it usually is.

    conservatives fall more for the first statement, liberals for the second, though they’re two sides of the same coin.
     
    I think the difference is conservatives don't then refuse to process additional information. Our assumption generally is that if something is natural, it is more likely than not that it developed that way for a reason, and then look for that reason. But we're willing to consider other possibilities. Liberals just hold their hands over their ears.

    For example, when it comes to human societies we are willing to consider the possibility that everyone that came before us was not a blithering idiot and things are the way they are for a reason. Example, skepticism about "gay marriage". Conservatives consider the possibility that the fact no known human society anywhere on the planet, spanning multiple continents and countless religions, has had homosexual marriage so maybe there are reasons. Liberals chalk it up to "ignorance" and "hate".
  37. @Laurence Whelk
    From the article:

    “...children are hard-wired to notice differences at a young age...”

    "there's all sorts of research that suggest that children very early on notice definitely physical differences between different people and they make meaning of those differences. And there's discrimination very early on."

    “...infants as young as six months old showed a preference for members of their own race and against members of different races. And this us vs. them mentality extends beyond physical differences.”

    "Babies did seem to care more about who was like them than they cared about niceness and meanness,"
     
    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?

    When my daughter said in the car after school in 1st grade that the black girls in her class seemed very loud…I said get used to it.

    • LOL: Laurence Whelk
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    When mine and my friend's kids were in the back of the van arguing about whether the car across the way was pink or purple, I told them to not sweat the small stuff, but I told the other Dad "I'll bet you 20 bucks I know what color the driver is." He chickened out.
    , @Ray Huffman
    When my daughter said in the car after school in 1st grade that the black girls in her class seemed very loud…I said get used to it.

    I grew up in a metro area which, until recently, had virtually no blacks. The first time I ever saw some I was maybe four years old. They were skycaps at the airport. I wasn't even sure they were human. This being the Southwest, I had already had extensive exposure to Mexicans and Indians and knew they were different from us, but I never doubted they were human.

  38. Anonymous[154] • Disclaimer says:

    This is just 2019’s version of whatever parenting fad was supposed to make your kid the next Mozart. Ie, it’s clickbait for expectant mothers and would-be mothers. That’s why it’s only directed at a group that invests in parenting. Asians, who also tend to obsess over parenting, eschew fads for more traditional methods.

  39. @Anon
    So progressives now support pure and simple child abuse. Why am I not surprised,

    It’s not necessarily abuse, that would depend on what you said to them. If I was still young enough to have small children at home I would be talking to them about race, class and gender, you betcha!

  40. It seems like whenever a study like this is done, they only test whites for prejudice. In the NPR article the author gives us this

    ” ‘Why is this person darker than me?’

    They could have said, “why is the person lighter than me or why is their hair straight?” but I think we all know why.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    Why is this person darker than me?
     
    It's Mother Nature's way of telling you they belong somewhere else. ;-)
  41. @gabriel alberton

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?
     
    A particular fallacy might arise here. It takes two forms.

    The first is that something being innate, inborn, natural, must mean it is good and right.

    The second, which is the first's corollary, I guess, is that something being bad, immoral, depraved, wrong, must mean it is not natural or inborn.

    An hypothesis: conservatives fall more for the first statement, liberals for the second, though they're two sides of the same coin.

    I see your point. I am not saying that what is natural or most common is necessarily the best option. But why not investigate what advantages might lie in group preference? I know why not, because we have already decided that in-group preference is immoral, regardless of scientific evidence.

  42. “In a previous Life Kit episode on how to raise kind kids, we reported that, even as babies, humans not only show a preference for those who look and act like us, but they also show a desire to see those not like us be treated badly.”

    Laughing. If one actually reads the study it says the children preferred people who looked like their parents. Duh. Laughing that’s not an instinctive racial categorization that categorization via relational dynamic of experience. In other words a child is more comfortable with someone who likes mom and dad.

    You know every time I think there is some new tac on matters of socialization that sprouts some new at of looking at it — something profound —–

    it always ends being quite standard and reasoned fair, but hardly what is prognisticated as unique and new insights. The child at six months is seeking familiar contacts based on the general environment his or her six months are acustomed to —

    parents and possibly siblings of a particular hue — in other words taught by association.

    —————————–

    As mundane as a book entitled why are the kids sitting with people who look like them —–

    Knock knock . . . five, ten, fifteen years of social training (socialization).

    ——-

    Hetereosexual unions are the best model worthy of social promotion —–

    knock, knock . . . because when boys and gals get together in such unions they produce children.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Like Greta Thuneberg?;)
  43. africans already got this covered. come of think of it, so do most groups.

    i assume this advice is more for suburbanites.

  44. teaching your children to hate you. paid for by your tax dollars.

  45. @dr kill
    The authorities must begin distributing newborns randomly. A village is necessary.

    The authorities must begin distributing newborns randomly. A village is necessary.

    You mean, like rations? Aren’t we supposed to eat the babies to save the world or something?

    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
    Yeah, I'm confused - eat 'em or brainwash them - which is it already?
  46. Solution: have a big black mammy to change the diapers,bath and sit up with the baby ….just like in the old south when race relations were so much better!…old times there are not forgotten.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    One of my earliest memories is being down south in North Carolina at my grandparents. I had gotten hold of some matches and struck a few in my crib. And had used some baby lotion for shampoo. A black maid, named Mae, just a few years older than my mother but who had raised her, found me first and was aghast. Took away the matches and was cleaning me up. Then my parents and grandparents were all in the doorway laughing. This would have been around 1965-6.

    Through our early teen years my siblings and I would be sent south for a couple of weeks in the summer to stay with both sets of grandparents. We’d see our grandparents on my mom’s side at dinner but most of the day would be looked after by Mae and an older gardner and man about the house named Vic. She was an excellent cook: fried chicken, chicken and dumplings, succotash, cornbread, etc. And she always kept a pantry stocked with soda for us: coke, ginger ale, Wink and Cheerwine.

    We had a family reunion about ten years ago in honor of my great grandfather. And there were a bunch of little blonde babies and toddlers, his great, great grandchildren And Mae was a guest. In her 80s and in a wheelchair, she spent most of the day keeping an eye on the kids.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    As a believer in feminism and equality, I'd prefer to look away.
  47. @Ibound1
    Who are the “experts” that say you should speak to your child about race, religion and social class at 6 months? Are these the same “experts” who got pre-school children to testify that witches were torturing them in underground caverns? Did the experts switch from Satanic pre-school covens to this? I don’t know about the rest of you but if a parent spoke to a 6 month old about this, I would consider that evidence of insanity on the parent’s part and child abuse too.

    Who are these “experts”?

    The experts are “the principal people”.

    Like the Great Red Mother Warren…

    From Wikipedia

    A Cherokee language name for Cherokee people is Aniyvwiyaʔi (ᎠᏂᏴᏫᏯ), translating as “Principal People”. Tsalagi (ᏣᎳᎩ) is the Cherokee word for Cherokee.[12]

  48. @J.Ross
    One of the most maddening things they do during pledge drives is to babble about how honest and fair and accurate they are. A local public radio show advertised a segment about combatting "racism" (ie, any sort of right-wing politics), and then immediately followed it up with a discussion about how we can come together and be civil. A while back they had two congresscritters mutterimg something about civility and sanity in politics -- neither called out or mentioned the voteless "impeachment inquiry" about nothing. What we have here is energetic sociopaths who bring up virtue in order to both defame their enemies and look good to low-information listeners who don't think things through. There was the guy superficially criticizing FaceBook but really suggesting they be given more power. There's the sanity and racism angles. There "Republicans" like Jeff Flake and Willard Romney and Guac Bush talking about "conservative values."

    If I was a republican governor/mayor/whoever I would try to do a takeover of the state public radio station and create some kind of “fairness” doctrine that forces the station to run/hire conservative view points in proportion to their size in the electorate. Then I would hire conservatives + some rapid leftist palestinian american to do stories on the USS liberty etc.

  49. @AnotherDad
    Steve--hope it's not getting smokey there, from Saddleridge across the Valley

    ... and you can sit back, have a beer, watch the glow and pray for rain.

    Yeah, talk about mainstream media blind spots, apparently Northern LA suburbs are on fire, 50 fires identified in a few hours, San Francisco is in tarantula mating season, PG&E has cut power up north with at least obe death from a guy depending on an oxygen machine, and there’s chatter that the power may be cut in places in the SoCal (to prevent wildfires like happened a year ago).

    • Replies: @JMcG
    If my life depended on an oxygen machine, you can bet your ass I’d have a generator. At least a deep cycle marine battery.
    , @Ibound1
    Must suck living in the Third World. Lucky I live in America.
    , @Paul Jolliffe
    J. Ross said:"Tarantula mating season."

    I've actually walked around on Mt. Diablo in the fall, but I didn't notice any of the hairy arachnids who were "fired up" (a euphemism, naturally!)

    Thousands of 'em, coming up out of the ground, scurrying about for up to a mile, all looking for love. But the part that really gives me the creeps is . . . the female eats the male after mating.

    (There's an analogy somewhere in there for contemporary society . . .)

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tarantulas-emerge-to-mate-san-francisco-bay-area-2019-10
    , @Lot
    Tarantulas are harmless and somewhat delicate, though I’ve never encountered one in the wild, I thought they were tropical. San Diego has the warmest winter nights in California, but still goes down to the mid 40s some nights and 50s more often. Not tropical. (Warmest winter days are in the desert where the typical winter high is 70 and low is 40.)

    Black widows are common and dangerous. I kill dozens a year.
  50. It’s not racism, you idiots, it’s being comfortable with what you know the best.
    A white baby brought up in a black household would prefer blacks at six months. A baby whose family wore green hockey masks and red leather gloves all the time would prefer that.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    A white baby brought up in a black household would prefer blacks at six months.
     
    A young Indo-Guyanese guy told me his baby niece would cry whenever another Guyanese person came into her room. If they were anything like him, I don't blame her.
    , @Alden
    We had a Chinese nanny from when the boys were about a month old to about 2 when we moved. They must have noticed 2 Whites called mommy and daddy and a Chinese woman called Mary. Never thought to ask them about it. They couldn’t talk anyway.
  51. We are ruled by White women. The poz is 99.999% by the desire of corporate consumer info media to play to the desires of fully liberated White women, They have Platos ring and are totally corrupted by it. Or perhaps it’s the reverse ring. Everyone sees them but dares not call them out.

    Oh to hear once more, “Jane you ignorant slut”

    Dan Ackroyd a lonely nation turns its eyes to you. Hey hey hey

  52. @Dan Smith
    Before the appearance of Sesame Street, how the heck did parents cope?

    Mom would open the back door and say, “Come home by dinnertime.”

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Mom would open the back door and say, “Come home by dinnertime.””

    Spoiled!

    More common on weekends and summers after lunch: “I don’t want you back in the house until the street lights turn on.” And early returns would prompt “It’s a beautiful day, you should be outside. You need me to find you some chores?”
  53. If you wait until the child is six months old, it may well be too late. When my wife went for an ultrasound scan, my unborn boy made the OK gesture. White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot’s head before he took his first breath.

    Isn’t that why the left favors late-term abortion?

  54. Developmental mile stones for woke babies:

    – crawling
    – walking
    – twerking

  55. @Ibound1
    Who are the “experts” that say you should speak to your child about race, religion and social class at 6 months? Are these the same “experts” who got pre-school children to testify that witches were torturing them in underground caverns? Did the experts switch from Satanic pre-school covens to this? I don’t know about the rest of you but if a parent spoke to a 6 month old about this, I would consider that evidence of insanity on the parent’s part and child abuse too.

    Who are these “experts”?

    Who are these “experts”?

    Same as all the other (((experts)))…

  56. I had a few good ones, but they have already been stolen by other commenters who thought of them before me.

  57. @Sergeant Prepper
    If you wait until the child is six months old, it may well be too late. When my wife went for an ultrasound scan, my unborn boy made the OK gesture. White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot's head before he took his first breath. The only way to prevent this is to think of Critical Race Theory while you're getting your wife pregnant.

    This comment doesn’t just deserve a mention, but also a Gold Box! Why are you so tough with those, Steve? I got one from Fred Reed one time, but I don’t expect another from him.
    ;-}

    Anyway, good one, Sarge.

    • Replies: @Sergeant Prepper
    First Greta did not get her Nobel, and now Steve refuses to give me my Gold Box... I'm starting to suspect that life is maybe not fair.

    Anyway, thanks Achmed, that was a nice compliment.
  58. @Sergeant Prepper
    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop's fables;-)

    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop’s fables;-)

    For what it’s worth, the first translation of Bambi into English was by none other than Whittaker Chambers.

    During his red-and-pink, i.e., commie-homo phase, no less.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I read one of Chambers’s commie phase short stories, set in China. It was excellent. His writing suffered a bit as his politics improved.
    , @Bubba
    And for less than it's worth, Bambi's author also wrote a best-selling pornographic novel.
  59. anonymous[773] • Disclaimer says:

    Anti Whites demand No-White-Anything-Anywhere.

    100% Black = diverse enough.
    100% Asian = diverse enough.
    Any percentage White = “needs diversity”

    White privilege: No acceptable borders ANYWHERE! “Diversity”, “Multiculturalism” for you ONLY!

    The White role in slavery? Enduring it like the Slavs and Irish. Then ending it.

    “Racist, White Supremacist, Nazi” are just Anti White slurs to shut down opposition to White G…

  60. Children? What about pets?

    [MORE]

  61. Babies can be so perceptive.

  62. @I'm a media expert
    At what age do the experts advise that we start talking to our children about gay sex? What age did they start talking to their 0.7 children about gay sex?

    Hey, that’s just what I was gonna bring up. By 1st grade, these teachers must be saying “person” for people of known sex, as my elementary school kid does this, as in “we had a person come in to tell us about the rules of the playground” rather than “we had a man come in …” or “we had a lady come in…”. He even does with kids part of the time, and he sure didn’t get it from us.

    Per Peak Stupidity’s recent post, K-12 LGBT, I had thought this was simply a feminism thing, a little beyond calling all teachers “Ms.” and so forth. I had an “AHAAAA!” moment and realized this is probably a subtle way to start dropping the pronouns and and sex designations. It’s not like a big plan, but likely just all of them being the most PC one can be for the current year. They can’t exactly start teaching about a woman getting a taxpayer funded adedictome.*

    Feminism is old hat now. This is part of the LGBT agenda. This sort of thing is something you have to keep fighting, and it’s getting freaking annoying.

    .

    * Though the kid does love this joke!

  63. Turns the old standard from South Pacific on its head.

    Rodgers & Hammerstein were making stuff up. I’m shocked, of course.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I've argued that Hammerstein and Michener were hugely influential on political attitudes.
  64. @International Jew
    Mom would open the back door and say, "Come home by dinnertime."

    “Mom would open the back door and say, “Come home by dinnertime.””

    Spoiled!

    More common on weekends and summers after lunch: “I don’t want you back in the house until the street lights turn on.” And early returns would prompt “It’s a beautiful day, you should be outside. You need me to find you some chores?”

    • Replies: @Charon

    “I don’t want you back in the house until the street lights turn on.”
     
    Where were you supposed to relieve yourselves, or don't I want to know?
  65. I was taught growing up to believe-to an almost religious degree-that we were all Americans, end of story. We were on the same team, and on an unstated but unmistakable level, it was considered distasteful to care about anything beyond that.

    Naive about America’s history, or the upcoming reality we face as social atomization continues to explode? Yes. But there’s a sentimental part of me that still sticks by the idea that you could do far worse. It seems as though present reality is determined to prove sentiment right.

  66. @Reg Cæsar

    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop’s fables;-)
     
    For what it's worth, the first translation of Bambi into English was by none other than Whittaker Chambers.

    During his red-and-pink, i.e., commie-homo phase, no less.


    https://whittakerchambers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/bambi1928_480x240.png

    I read one of Chambers’s commie phase short stories, set in China. It was excellent. His writing suffered a bit as his politics improved.

  67. @Reg Cæsar

    You should consider a second career writing woke versions of Aesop’s fables;-)
     
    For what it's worth, the first translation of Bambi into English was by none other than Whittaker Chambers.

    During his red-and-pink, i.e., commie-homo phase, no less.


    https://whittakerchambers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/bambi1928_480x240.png

    And for less than it’s worth, Bambi’s author also wrote a best-selling pornographic novel.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ehuePPNvD6I
  68. @J.Ross
    That video of a Vice editor throwing an adult toy at a wall to determine a headline should be updated with a Great Foundation Society Fixer throwing adult toys at walls with things like "Get Families To Fight More," "Accuse Trump of Something We're Screamingly Guilty Of," "Alienate Longtime Supporters," "Demand that Children Grasp Abstract Concepts Years Before Possible," or "Run Hillary Again."

    It’s a great video.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    What is the difference between Vice News and Vox News? Serious question.
    , @Ray Huffman
    Also ironic. This dude wears a man-bun in real like. It's not just a part of the costume.
  69. @J.Ross
    Yeah, talk about mainstream media blind spots, apparently Northern LA suburbs are on fire, 50 fires identified in a few hours, San Francisco is in tarantula mating season, PG&E has cut power up north with at least obe death from a guy depending on an oxygen machine, and there's chatter that the power may be cut in places in the SoCal (to prevent wildfires like happened a year ago).

    If my life depended on an oxygen machine, you can bet your ass I’d have a generator. At least a deep cycle marine battery.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    That's what I thought when I heard it, but it is still the state government that should be blamed for having handled the excess dry wood and the punishment of the monopoly so boneheadedly as to guarantee future problems. PG&E isn't abandoning markets to avoid a fire, it's to avoid more punitive fines. Apparently institutions in California fight each other rather than talk to each other.
  70. @J.Ross
    Yeah, talk about mainstream media blind spots, apparently Northern LA suburbs are on fire, 50 fires identified in a few hours, San Francisco is in tarantula mating season, PG&E has cut power up north with at least obe death from a guy depending on an oxygen machine, and there's chatter that the power may be cut in places in the SoCal (to prevent wildfires like happened a year ago).

    Must suck living in the Third World. Lucky I live in America.

  71. When my son was 5yo, we were in the grocery store checkout line. He asks “Why do black people smell funny?”

    He’s 26 now and he knows.

  72. I agree we must start young.

    Tell your babies…

    1. Blacks are tougher and more aggressive and commit more crime.

    2. Jewish are rich and powerful and use US might to crush and kill Palestinians.

    ——————–

    If Body Snatchers get you when you sleep, the Proglob gets you while you’re young.

    Down with ‘Criticality’, up with Credulity.

    I means kids will believe in anything. Even Santa and Tooth Fairy.

    Credulism is the new mode of proggy-hood.

  73. @J.Ross
    Yeah, talk about mainstream media blind spots, apparently Northern LA suburbs are on fire, 50 fires identified in a few hours, San Francisco is in tarantula mating season, PG&E has cut power up north with at least obe death from a guy depending on an oxygen machine, and there's chatter that the power may be cut in places in the SoCal (to prevent wildfires like happened a year ago).

    J. Ross said:”Tarantula mating season.”

    I’ve actually walked around on Mt. Diablo in the fall, but I didn’t notice any of the hairy arachnids who were “fired up” (a euphemism, naturally!)

    Thousands of ’em, coming up out of the ground, scurrying about for up to a mile, all looking for love. But the part that really gives me the creeps is . . . the female eats the male after mating.

    (There’s an analogy somewhere in there for contemporary society . . .)

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tarantulas-emerge-to-mate-san-francisco-bay-area-2019-10

    • Replies: @El Dato

    But the part that really gives me the creeps is . . . the female eats the male after mating.
     
    That's a good solution in a resource-starved environment.
    , @fish

    (There’s an analogy somewhere in there for contemporary society . . .)
     
    With humans the post-marital cannibalism is deferred until the divorce! By that time the male doesn’t mind the sweet embrace of death.
  74. @216
    We are a conquered people

    And Walt Kelly was correct about who did the conquering.

  75. @The Alarmist

    The authorities must begin distributing newborns randomly. A village is necessary.
     
    You mean, like rations? Aren't we supposed to eat the babies to save the world or something?

    Yeah, I’m confused – eat ’em or brainwash them – which is it already?

  76. @D Bob
    It's not racism, you idiots, it's being comfortable with what you know the best.
    A white baby brought up in a black household would prefer blacks at six months. A baby whose family wore green hockey masks and red leather gloves all the time would prefer that.

    A white baby brought up in a black household would prefer blacks at six months.

    A young Indo-Guyanese guy told me his baby niece would cry whenever another Guyanese person came into her room. If they were anything like him, I don’t blame her.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Perhaps it was because he would come into her room bringing Kool-Aid instead of milk?
  77. @Bubba
    And for less than it's worth, Bambi's author also wrote a best-selling pornographic novel.

    • LOL: Bubba
    • Replies: @Bubba
    Thank you! Now I know where Monty Python got their intro from and then added John Phillip Souza's "Liberty Bell March."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL6ton0Dbz4
  78. @candid_observer
    Turns the old standard from South Pacific on its head.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPf6ITsjsgk

    Rodgers & Hammerstein were making stuff up. I'm shocked, of course.

    I’ve argued that Hammerstein and Michener were hugely influential on political attitudes.

    • Replies: @Anon

    I’ve argued that Hammerstein and Michener were hugely influential on political attitudes.
     
    Here:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/obama_the_musical_steve_sailer/

    The writers Michener and Hammerstein figure largely in Klein’s book, and rightly so. The two classy Democratic Protestants embodied postwar liberalism at its expansive and earnest peak as it tried to reengineer Americans to be able to grapple with the global responsibilities Washington took on in the 1940s....

    Intermarriage was a theme that ran throughout Hammerstein’s works, beginning with Show Boat‘s sympathetic depiction of a black-white marriage.

    Michener and Hammerstein worked hard, together on South Pacific and apart in other pieces, to rid American society of prejudice against intermarriage. They had personal and professional reasons....

    South Pacific was the first of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s three musicals about Asians and Pacific Islanders. The other two are The King and I“which is driven by the unconsummated sexual tension between the Victorian Englishwoman and the King of Siam”and the all-Asian-American Flower Drum Song.

    America in the 1945-1965 era is stereotyped as insular and “white-bread,” but its middlebrow kings, Rodgers and Hammerstein and Michener, were infatuated with the foreign. Today, if white guys like them tried to do anything as exotic and crazy as, say, “The Small House of Uncle Thomas” ballet in The King and I“the Burmese slave girl’s adaptation of Uncle Tom’s Cabin“€”they would be given a long lecture about Edward Said’s theory of Orientalism....

    Granting Hawaii statehood was intended to symbolize the new multiracial America that would appeal to the developing countries:

    Hawaii’s campaign for statehood, which ran more or less continuously from 1945 to 1959, kept the territory alive in the nation’s political culture. … Race was the big issue: people of Asian and Pacific background outnumbered whites three to one. … There was no legal segregation on the islands and intermarriage was common, with about 10 percent of marriages before World War I and more than 30 percent in the 1950s taking place between people of different races.

    Southern Democrats fought a rearguard action against admitting Hawaii as a state, but were ultimately overwhelmed by the globalist imperatives for which Michener was an able spokesman:

    To Michener, Hawaii’s familial and cultural ties to Asia made it worth incorporating into the Union. He saw the people of Hawaii as an exploitable natural resource who could facilitate U.S. global expansion by serving as native informants and guides...
     
  79. This is how we “develop” genius out here in California. Campaign is relatively new, so we’ll have to wait for the results to determine how effective it is.

  80. @Laurence Whelk
    From the article:

    “...children are hard-wired to notice differences at a young age...”

    "there's all sorts of research that suggest that children very early on notice definitely physical differences between different people and they make meaning of those differences. And there's discrimination very early on."

    “...infants as young as six months old showed a preference for members of their own race and against members of different races. And this us vs. them mentality extends beyond physical differences.”

    "Babies did seem to care more about who was like them than they cared about niceness and meanness,"
     
    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?

    I think we could try the meme of equating racism with green energy, and racial equality with using fossil fuels. The former pairing works in harmony with nature, while the latter pairing inflicts violence on nature.

  81. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I've argued that Hammerstein and Michener were hugely influential on political attitudes.

    I’ve argued that Hammerstein and Michener were hugely influential on political attitudes.

    Here:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/obama_the_musical_steve_sailer/

    The writers Michener and Hammerstein figure largely in Klein’s book, and rightly so. The two classy Democratic Protestants embodied postwar liberalism at its expansive and earnest peak as it tried to reengineer Americans to be able to grapple with the global responsibilities Washington took on in the 1940s….

    Intermarriage was a theme that ran throughout Hammerstein’s works, beginning with Show Boat‘s sympathetic depiction of a black-white marriage.

    Michener and Hammerstein worked hard, together on South Pacific and apart in other pieces, to rid American society of prejudice against intermarriage. They had personal and professional reasons….

    South Pacific was the first of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s three musicals about Asians and Pacific Islanders. The other two are The King and I“which is driven by the unconsummated sexual tension between the Victorian Englishwoman and the King of Siam”and the all-Asian-American Flower Drum Song.

    America in the 1945-1965 era is stereotyped as insular and “white-bread,” but its middlebrow kings, Rodgers and Hammerstein and Michener, were infatuated with the foreign. Today, if white guys like them tried to do anything as exotic and crazy as, say, “The Small House of Uncle Thomas” ballet in The King and I“the Burmese slave girl’s adaptation of Uncle Tom’s Cabin“€”they would be given a long lecture about Edward Said’s theory of Orientalism….

    Granting Hawaii statehood was intended to symbolize the new multiracial America that would appeal to the developing countries:

    Hawaii’s campaign for statehood, which ran more or less continuously from 1945 to 1959, kept the territory alive in the nation’s political culture. … Race was the big issue: people of Asian and Pacific background outnumbered whites three to one. … There was no legal segregation on the islands and intermarriage was common, with about 10 percent of marriages before World War I and more than 30 percent in the 1950s taking place between people of different races.

    Southern Democrats fought a rearguard action against admitting Hawaii as a state, but were ultimately overwhelmed by the globalist imperatives for which Michener was an able spokesman:

    To Michener, Hawaii’s familial and cultural ties to Asia made it worth incorporating into the Union. He saw the people of Hawaii as an exploitable natural resource who could facilitate U.S. global expansion by serving as native informants and guides…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Obama is very much a genetic product of the Hammerstein-Michener project. I'm sure his mother read Michener's immense bestseller "Hawaii" shortly before conceiving him.
    , @Charon
    Rodgers was Jewish and Hammerstein was half-Jewish. So not too protestant really.

    Michener was adopted.
  82. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve from 2004:

    I like non-literary fiction by smart guys who are not artists but instead want to teach you tons of stuff — Tom Clancy, James Michener, Robert A. Heinlein, Len Deighton, and so forth.

    Care to update us on your favorite authors these days? Is Robert Harris in there?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I've read about a half dozen Robert Harris novels over the years. He's not my all-time favorite, but he's competent.
  83. @Anon
    Steve from 2004:

    I like non-literary fiction by smart guys who are not artists but instead want to teach you tons of stuff -- Tom Clancy, James Michener, Robert A. Heinlein, Len Deighton, and so forth.
     
    Care to update us on your favorite authors these days? Is Robert Harris in there?

    I’ve read about a half dozen Robert Harris novels over the years. He’s not my all-time favorite, but he’s competent.

  84. @Anon

    I’ve argued that Hammerstein and Michener were hugely influential on political attitudes.
     
    Here:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/obama_the_musical_steve_sailer/

    The writers Michener and Hammerstein figure largely in Klein’s book, and rightly so. The two classy Democratic Protestants embodied postwar liberalism at its expansive and earnest peak as it tried to reengineer Americans to be able to grapple with the global responsibilities Washington took on in the 1940s....

    Intermarriage was a theme that ran throughout Hammerstein’s works, beginning with Show Boat‘s sympathetic depiction of a black-white marriage.

    Michener and Hammerstein worked hard, together on South Pacific and apart in other pieces, to rid American society of prejudice against intermarriage. They had personal and professional reasons....

    South Pacific was the first of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s three musicals about Asians and Pacific Islanders. The other two are The King and I“which is driven by the unconsummated sexual tension between the Victorian Englishwoman and the King of Siam”and the all-Asian-American Flower Drum Song.

    America in the 1945-1965 era is stereotyped as insular and “white-bread,” but its middlebrow kings, Rodgers and Hammerstein and Michener, were infatuated with the foreign. Today, if white guys like them tried to do anything as exotic and crazy as, say, “The Small House of Uncle Thomas” ballet in The King and I“the Burmese slave girl’s adaptation of Uncle Tom’s Cabin“€”they would be given a long lecture about Edward Said’s theory of Orientalism....

    Granting Hawaii statehood was intended to symbolize the new multiracial America that would appeal to the developing countries:

    Hawaii’s campaign for statehood, which ran more or less continuously from 1945 to 1959, kept the territory alive in the nation’s political culture. … Race was the big issue: people of Asian and Pacific background outnumbered whites three to one. … There was no legal segregation on the islands and intermarriage was common, with about 10 percent of marriages before World War I and more than 30 percent in the 1950s taking place between people of different races.

    Southern Democrats fought a rearguard action against admitting Hawaii as a state, but were ultimately overwhelmed by the globalist imperatives for which Michener was an able spokesman:

    To Michener, Hawaii’s familial and cultural ties to Asia made it worth incorporating into the Union. He saw the people of Hawaii as an exploitable natural resource who could facilitate U.S. global expansion by serving as native informants and guides...
     

    Obama is very much a genetic product of the Hammerstein-Michener project. I’m sure his mother read Michener’s immense bestseller “Hawaii” shortly before conceiving him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Obama is very much a genetic product of the Hammerstein-Michener project. I’m sure his mother read Michener’s immense bestseller “Hawaii” shortly before conceiving him.
     
    Michener also wrote one of the top two or three books calling for abolition of the Electoral College. I wonder if the Dunhams read that to little Barry. Michener himself served his Commonwealth as a Humphrey elector in 1968.

    The other two are by Neal R Peirce and Lawrence D Longley. All these men were proved wrong in their assertions that America would not accept an Electoral College result in conflict with the so-called "popular vote".

    Only half of America wouldn't!


    https://www.booktopia.com.au/http_coversbooktopiacomau/600/9784871879453/9674/presidential-lottery-the-reckless-gamble-in-our-electoral-system.jpg
    , @reactionry
    A Hard-To-Put-Down Buk?

    Some excerpts from James Michener's "Texas - A Novel" (Random House, Copyright 1983) might be worth a glance. From Chapter IX - The Terror: Lebensraum for La Raza in El Paso:

    [A proposal by Patryck Cruznsky for a solo daylight attack on a Wahlbergmart had been rejected for reasons made clear in the following]

    Page 490: "Scouts surveyed the area, evaluating six different communities where Mexican settlers tilled their new fields and tended cattle that had only recently belonged to Whites. Sometimes, seeing the neat cottages at night with lights dimly glowing, Bubba lost all stomach for this mission, and Chad, already convinced of Bubba's unreliability, kept close watch on him.

    Page 491: "When the force was so near the village that dogs might begin to bark, Bubba called to his Stork Commando, 'Now!' and flicked his flashlight to signal the Lubbock men on the wings, and with flaming torches these commandos fell upon the village, setting roofs ablaze and sweeping all areas with gunfire.

    The enraged Texans, remembering what had happened to the children who once occupied these cottages, never had to face the awful problem of whether they themselves were guilty of a similar crime, because their fire was so intense, their flames so wild and rampant, that no Texan ever confronted an individual Mexican. There were a few screams, a few shadowy figures running in the night, until the waiting gunmen shot them down...then only silence."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_(novel)

    Tags: Patryck Cruznsky=Patrick Crusius, Lubbock=Lublin, Bubba=Buk, Chad=Chalubinski, Texans=Poles, Mexicans=Germans

    - just kidding - nothing whatsoever to see here - no difficult or unavoidable choices - no terrible or uncertain outcomes - go to sleep...

    Seriously - I'm a hopeless coward and trust y'all are as well

  85. @JMcG
    If my life depended on an oxygen machine, you can bet your ass I’d have a generator. At least a deep cycle marine battery.

    That’s what I thought when I heard it, but it is still the state government that should be blamed for having handled the excess dry wood and the punishment of the monopoly so boneheadedly as to guarantee future problems. PG&E isn’t abandoning markets to avoid a fire, it’s to avoid more punitive fines. Apparently institutions in California fight each other rather than talk to each other.

    • Replies: @Alden
    The city and county governments cleared the brush dead trees and fallen branches for more than a hundred years.

    Then some sissy city boys from back east where it rains 5 or 6 times a month in summer convinced some sissy city boy judge to forbid clearing brush and dead wood because it’s against the religion of environmentalism.

    Apparently a million years ago there was no one around to clear dry brush and dead wood

    Just one judge and wildfires rage and people burn to death

    A relative and his wife were the only people who survived the 2017 Napa fire on their mountain. They were able to escape because the local authorities disregarded the no clearance order. The fire road was cleared of brush for 30 feet on either side. Had the federal no clearance orders been obeyed, they would not have been able to escape. They heard the neighbors screaming as they were burnt to death as they drove down the mountain. Rural area, propane tanks exploded.

    Judges judges judges judges
    , @JMcG
    Oh, I agree completely. It’s the lunatics that make the asylum. There’s a neighborhood near me that’s loaded with new money. Horse country that’s rolled over to the new aristocrats. There are signs everywhere now boldly demanding that “Humongous Power Company Don’t Touch Our Trees!”
    Just another gentle push down the slope.
  86. @Lot
    “Mom would open the back door and say, “Come home by dinnertime.””

    Spoiled!

    More common on weekends and summers after lunch: “I don’t want you back in the house until the street lights turn on.” And early returns would prompt “It’s a beautiful day, you should be outside. You need me to find you some chores?”

    “I don’t want you back in the house until the street lights turn on.”

    Where were you supposed to relieve yourselves, or don’t I want to know?

    • Replies: @Lot
    Haha, going back inside for the bathroom was allowed. But we also had forests everywhere at the edges of the subdivision.
  87. @Anon

    I’ve argued that Hammerstein and Michener were hugely influential on political attitudes.
     
    Here:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/obama_the_musical_steve_sailer/

    The writers Michener and Hammerstein figure largely in Klein’s book, and rightly so. The two classy Democratic Protestants embodied postwar liberalism at its expansive and earnest peak as it tried to reengineer Americans to be able to grapple with the global responsibilities Washington took on in the 1940s....

    Intermarriage was a theme that ran throughout Hammerstein’s works, beginning with Show Boat‘s sympathetic depiction of a black-white marriage.

    Michener and Hammerstein worked hard, together on South Pacific and apart in other pieces, to rid American society of prejudice against intermarriage. They had personal and professional reasons....

    South Pacific was the first of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s three musicals about Asians and Pacific Islanders. The other two are The King and I“which is driven by the unconsummated sexual tension between the Victorian Englishwoman and the King of Siam”and the all-Asian-American Flower Drum Song.

    America in the 1945-1965 era is stereotyped as insular and “white-bread,” but its middlebrow kings, Rodgers and Hammerstein and Michener, were infatuated with the foreign. Today, if white guys like them tried to do anything as exotic and crazy as, say, “The Small House of Uncle Thomas” ballet in The King and I“the Burmese slave girl’s adaptation of Uncle Tom’s Cabin“€”they would be given a long lecture about Edward Said’s theory of Orientalism....

    Granting Hawaii statehood was intended to symbolize the new multiracial America that would appeal to the developing countries:

    Hawaii’s campaign for statehood, which ran more or less continuously from 1945 to 1959, kept the territory alive in the nation’s political culture. … Race was the big issue: people of Asian and Pacific background outnumbered whites three to one. … There was no legal segregation on the islands and intermarriage was common, with about 10 percent of marriages before World War I and more than 30 percent in the 1950s taking place between people of different races.

    Southern Democrats fought a rearguard action against admitting Hawaii as a state, but were ultimately overwhelmed by the globalist imperatives for which Michener was an able spokesman:

    To Michener, Hawaii’s familial and cultural ties to Asia made it worth incorporating into the Union. He saw the people of Hawaii as an exploitable natural resource who could facilitate U.S. global expansion by serving as native informants and guides...
     

    Rodgers was Jewish and Hammerstein was half-Jewish. So not too protestant really.

    Michener was adopted.

  88. I agree with Sailer on this one: considering that “race” is a pseudo-scientific concept based on the misuse of taxonomy, 19th century colonialism and incorrect assumptions about the implications of Darwin’s Theory, no indocrination about “race” should be given to children. Instead, if children are actually confronted with racist behavior and inquire the parents or legal guardians about it, they should just be told that some people REALLY care about skin color, and that those people are silly and evil.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Reader
    some people REALLY care about skin color, and that those people are silly and evil.

    But only "those people" who themselves have pale skin, of course.
  89. @AnotherDad
    Steve--hope it's not getting smokey there, from Saddleridge across the Valley

    ... and you can sit back, have a beer, watch the glow and pray for rain.

    I’ve been smelling smoke since about 11/am and it’s getting worse. The fires really dry the air which dries the eyes nose and mouth.

  90. @J.Ross
    That's what I thought when I heard it, but it is still the state government that should be blamed for having handled the excess dry wood and the punishment of the monopoly so boneheadedly as to guarantee future problems. PG&E isn't abandoning markets to avoid a fire, it's to avoid more punitive fines. Apparently institutions in California fight each other rather than talk to each other.

    The city and county governments cleared the brush dead trees and fallen branches for more than a hundred years.

    Then some sissy city boys from back east where it rains 5 or 6 times a month in summer convinced some sissy city boy judge to forbid clearing brush and dead wood because it’s against the religion of environmentalism.

    Apparently a million years ago there was no one around to clear dry brush and dead wood

    Just one judge and wildfires rage and people burn to death

    A relative and his wife were the only people who survived the 2017 Napa fire on their mountain. They were able to escape because the local authorities disregarded the no clearance order. The fire road was cleared of brush for 30 feet on either side. Had the federal no clearance orders been obeyed, they would not have been able to escape. They heard the neighbors screaming as they were burnt to death as they drove down the mountain. Rural area, propane tanks exploded.

    Judges judges judges judges

  91. @Reg Cæsar
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ehuePPNvD6I

    Thank you! Now I know where Monty Python got their intro from and then added John Phillip Souza’s “Liberty Bell March.”

  92. The guy with twitter handle Brandon Brown definitely wins that thread:
    In response to someone sarcastically saying you should play tapes while your baby is in the womb, he responded that the headphones are on his balls.

  93. 6 months old baby has more common sense and has better survival instincts then all the leftists, liberals, SJWs, wokes, progressives combined.

  94. @Steve Sailer
    Obama is very much a genetic product of the Hammerstein-Michener project. I'm sure his mother read Michener's immense bestseller "Hawaii" shortly before conceiving him.

    Obama is very much a genetic product of the Hammerstein-Michener project. I’m sure his mother read Michener’s immense bestseller “Hawaii” shortly before conceiving him.

    Michener also wrote one of the top two or three books calling for abolition of the Electoral College. I wonder if the Dunhams read that to little Barry. Michener himself served his Commonwealth as a Humphrey elector in 1968.

    The other two are by Neal R Peirce and Lawrence D Longley. All these men were proved wrong in their assertions that America would not accept an Electoral College result in conflict with the so-called “popular vote”.

    Only half of America wouldn’t!

  95. @Achmed E. Newman
    This comment doesn't just deserve a mention, but also a Gold Box! Why are you so tough with those, Steve? I got one from Fred Reed one time, but I don't expect another from him.
    ;-}

    Anyway, good one, Sarge.

    First Greta did not get her Nobel, and now Steve refuses to give me my Gold Box… I’m starting to suspect that life is maybe not fair.

    Anyway, thanks Achmed, that was a nice compliment.

  96. @guest
    "Social class"

    As opposed to what? Taxonomic class?

    I realize "social" is appended to nouns willy-nilly, but I wonder why we're modifying class in this manner. We've been easing off economic class as something of interest for a long while, in favor of other aspects of social socialistical socialmismses. For instance what kind of external genitalia you'd prefer to possess.

    Maybe explain to your child they don’t want to end up as a Social Distortion song?

  97. @EliteCommInc.
    "In a previous Life Kit episode on how to raise kind kids, we reported that, even as babies, humans not only show a preference for those who look and act like us, but they also show a desire to see those not like us be treated badly."


    Laughing. If one actually reads the study it says the children preferred people who looked like their parents. Duh. Laughing that's not an instinctive racial categorization that categorization via relational dynamic of experience. In other words a child is more comfortable with someone who likes mom and dad.

    You know every time I think there is some new tac on matters of socialization that sprouts some new at of looking at it --- something profound -----

    it always ends being quite standard and reasoned fair, but hardly what is prognisticated as unique and new insights. The child at six months is seeking familiar contacts based on the general environment his or her six months are acustomed to ---

    parents and possibly siblings of a particular hue --- in other words taught by association.

    -----------------------------

    As mundane as a book entitled why are the kids sitting with people who look like them -----

    Knock knock . . . five, ten, fifteen years of social training (socialization).

    -------

    Hetereosexual unions are the best model worthy of social promotion -----

    knock, knock . . . because when boys and gals get together in such unions they produce children.

    Like Greta Thuneberg?;)

  98. @216
    We are a conquered people

    We are a conquered people

    Please take a look at Kevin McDonald’s _Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_, search Amazon.com . He does an excellent job of showing the internal divisions that make it possible for Whites to abdicate control of the West to non-Western entities. Essentially, the abdication was sold as a specific moral and religious duty that can be shown to have been extremely influential in the West as far back as the 1700s.
    If you want to be un-conquered, you have to be able to counter (starting with convincing yourself yourself) the arguments and people responsible for selling the abdication to the Western public. Otherwise you will be defeated by the internal feeling of moral and religious duty, or by groups who believe they have that moral and religious duty.
    On the bright side [1], duty isn’t well thought of, nor is morality nor religion, so the effect of the moral/religions argument is weakening.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] a pretty dark bright side.

    • Replies: @bomag

    If you want to be un-conquered, you have to be able to counter... the arguments and people responsible for selling the abdication to the Western public
     
    Why do we even need to counter the arguments? The other side has been promising us a better world if we be nice and give things away, but we've gotten nothing for what we've paid and sacrificed, so there should come a time when we quit expecting anything from considering their arguments and agreeing with any of their conclusions.
    , @Lot
    “ extremely influential in the West as far back as the 1700s.”

    The West in the 1700 and 1800s sure was awful with all those influential individualists.

    And what about those nefarious Judiazing-heresy protestants too?
  99. @tyrone
    Solution: have a big black mammy to change the diapers,bath and sit up with the baby ….just like in the old south when race relations were so much better!…old times there are not forgotten.

    One of my earliest memories is being down south in North Carolina at my grandparents. I had gotten hold of some matches and struck a few in my crib. And had used some baby lotion for shampoo. A black maid, named Mae, just a few years older than my mother but who had raised her, found me first and was aghast. Took away the matches and was cleaning me up. Then my parents and grandparents were all in the doorway laughing. This would have been around 1965-6.

    Through our early teen years my siblings and I would be sent south for a couple of weeks in the summer to stay with both sets of grandparents. We’d see our grandparents on my mom’s side at dinner but most of the day would be looked after by Mae and an older gardner and man about the house named Vic. She was an excellent cook: fried chicken, chicken and dumplings, succotash, cornbread, etc. And she always kept a pantry stocked with soda for us: coke, ginger ale, Wink and Cheerwine.

    We had a family reunion about ten years ago in honor of my great grandfather. And there were a bunch of little blonde babies and toddlers, his great, great grandchildren And Mae was a guest. In her 80s and in a wheelchair, she spent most of the day keeping an eye on the kids.

  100. @Steve Sailer
    Obama is very much a genetic product of the Hammerstein-Michener project. I'm sure his mother read Michener's immense bestseller "Hawaii" shortly before conceiving him.

    A Hard-To-Put-Down Buk?

    Some excerpts from James Michener’s “Texas – A Novel” (Random House, Copyright 1983) might be worth a glance. From Chapter IX – The Terror: Lebensraum for La Raza in El Paso:

    [A proposal by Patryck Cruznsky for a solo daylight attack on a Wahlbergmart had been rejected for reasons made clear in the following]

    Page 490: “Scouts surveyed the area, evaluating six different communities where Mexican settlers tilled their new fields and tended cattle that had only recently belonged to Whites. Sometimes, seeing the neat cottages at night with lights dimly glowing, Bubba lost all stomach for this mission, and Chad, already convinced of Bubba’s unreliability, kept close watch on him.

    Page 491: “When the force was so near the village that dogs might begin to bark, Bubba called to his Stork Commando, ‘Now!’ and flicked his flashlight to signal the Lubbock men on the wings, and with flaming torches these commandos fell upon the village, setting roofs ablaze and sweeping all areas with gunfire.

    The enraged Texans, remembering what had happened to the children who once occupied these cottages, never had to face the awful problem of whether they themselves were guilty of a similar crime, because their fire was so intense, their flames so wild and rampant, that no Texan ever confronted an individual Mexican. There were a few screams, a few shadowy figures running in the night, until the waiting gunmen shot them down…then only silence.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_(novel)

    Tags: Patryck Cruznsky=Patrick Crusius, Lubbock=Lublin, Bubba=Buk, Chad=Chalubinski, Texans=Poles, Mexicans=Germans

    – just kidding – nothing whatsoever to see here – no difficult or unavoidable choices – no terrible or uncertain outcomes – go to sleep…

    Seriously – I’m a hopeless coward and trust y’all are as well

  101. @Ano
    In Brave New World babies were socially conditioned by giving them electric shocks.

    NPR should do a follow up and interview researchers at the Stanley Milgram Liberal School of Progressive Childhood Education (mission statement: Out with Dr Spock- in with SHOCK).

    Hmmm (thinking), any iSteve reader interested in going into business partnership with me to sell tasers to Babies R Us?

    (Dear iSteve Moderator, I'm just joking. I don't need a business partner.)

    LOL!

  102. @Hodag
    When my daughter said in the car after school in 1st grade that the black girls in her class seemed very loud...I said get used to it.

    When mine and my friend’s kids were in the back of the van arguing about whether the car across the way was pink or purple, I told them to not sweat the small stuff, but I told the other Dad “I’ll bet you 20 bucks I know what color the driver is.” He chickened out.

  103. @tyrone
    Solution: have a big black mammy to change the diapers,bath and sit up with the baby ….just like in the old south when race relations were so much better!…old times there are not forgotten.

    As a believer in feminism and equality, I’d prefer to look away.

  104. @Reg Cæsar

    A white baby brought up in a black household would prefer blacks at six months.
     
    A young Indo-Guyanese guy told me his baby niece would cry whenever another Guyanese person came into her room. If they were anything like him, I don't blame her.

    Perhaps it was because he would come into her room bringing Kool-Aid instead of milk?

  105. @Kronos
    https://youtu.be/x6MxvzliG6I

    It’s a great video.

    What is the difference between Vice News and Vox News? Serious question.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    The color of the dildo? Fox News might use a genuine blackboard with chalk.
  106. It takes a village idiot to raise a child.

  107. @Paul Jolliffe
    J. Ross said:"Tarantula mating season."

    I've actually walked around on Mt. Diablo in the fall, but I didn't notice any of the hairy arachnids who were "fired up" (a euphemism, naturally!)

    Thousands of 'em, coming up out of the ground, scurrying about for up to a mile, all looking for love. But the part that really gives me the creeps is . . . the female eats the male after mating.

    (There's an analogy somewhere in there for contemporary society . . .)

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tarantulas-emerge-to-mate-san-francisco-bay-area-2019-10

    But the part that really gives me the creeps is . . . the female eats the male after mating.

    That’s a good solution in a resource-starved environment.

  108. @J.Ross
    That's what I thought when I heard it, but it is still the state government that should be blamed for having handled the excess dry wood and the punishment of the monopoly so boneheadedly as to guarantee future problems. PG&E isn't abandoning markets to avoid a fire, it's to avoid more punitive fines. Apparently institutions in California fight each other rather than talk to each other.

    Oh, I agree completely. It’s the lunatics that make the asylum. There’s a neighborhood near me that’s loaded with new money. Horse country that’s rolled over to the new aristocrats. There are signs everywhere now boldly demanding that “Humongous Power Company Don’t Touch Our Trees!”
    Just another gentle push down the slope.

  109. @Counterinsurgency

    We are a conquered people
     
    Please take a look at Kevin McDonald's _Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_, search Amazon.com . He does an excellent job of showing the internal divisions that make it possible for Whites to abdicate control of the West to non-Western entities. Essentially, the abdication was sold as a specific moral and religious duty that can be shown to have been extremely influential in the West as far back as the 1700s.
    If you want to be un-conquered, you have to be able to counter (starting with convincing yourself yourself) the arguments and people responsible for selling the abdication to the Western public. Otherwise you will be defeated by the internal feeling of moral and religious duty, or by groups who believe they have that moral and religious duty.
    On the bright side [1], duty isn't well thought of, nor is morality nor religion, so the effect of the moral/religions argument is weakening.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] a pretty dark bright side.

    If you want to be un-conquered, you have to be able to counter… the arguments and people responsible for selling the abdication to the Western public

    Why do we even need to counter the arguments? The other side has been promising us a better world if we be nice and give things away, but we’ve gotten nothing for what we’ve paid and sacrificed, so there should come a time when we quit expecting anything from considering their arguments and agreeing with any of their conclusions.

  110. White guy here raised by goodwhite liberals in Baltimore city. I was in a 90% black school district from pre-K to grade 12…. lo and behold, I became racist. Nothing will inoculate a baby if they are exposed to black misbehavior, which they eventually will.

  111. @silviosilver
    I can see now where my parents went wrong. I can remember the day clearly, like it was yesterday. There I was at five months and thirty days-old, absently rolling around in my cot, when I again heard vaguely familiar voices emanating from this rectangular object in the corner of the room. This occurred regularly enough that I was beginning to get used to it. So as usual, I gazed at the box, bemused by both sight and sound. The next day, it happened again. Only this time -- remember, I'd just turned six months -- I became aware of something I hadn't noticed before. One of the people on TV, he didn't look like either of my parents, or anyone else I'd ever seen. The experience was so jarring I began to cry uncontrollably. Yes, he was a black man.

    My mother -- that bitch -- do you think she said anything about it? Sure, she rushed over to mollify me, but did she try to explain to me that even though we looked so different, that even though we might prefer people who like us and that he might prefer people who looked like him, that even though what I'd some day learn was called "science" had determined there were important differences between us, that despite all this, we were actually equal -- indeed that, since people like us had at one time been cruel to people like him, he was, for the time being, in a sense "more equal" than us, and that for the foreseeable future we'd have to treat him preferentially until such time as, well... nobody really knows... but till whenever anyway, and all of this despite the fact that this thing called "science" gave nobody any real reason to think actual equality could ever be achieved, and that some day my life prospects would in large part hinge on my ability to feign ignorance of this knowledge. Do you think my mother explained any of that to me? Of course not. So is it any wonder I'm so messed up today?

    It would be funny if your first word was the “N” word.

  112. @Charon

    “I don’t want you back in the house until the street lights turn on.”
     
    Where were you supposed to relieve yourselves, or don't I want to know?

    Haha, going back inside for the bathroom was allowed. But we also had forests everywhere at the edges of the subdivision.

  113. @Rich
    I suggest using John Derbyshire's "The Talk", mild as it was, as a start. Then, when they hit 2 years, go full Paul Kersey on the facts of White-black relations. That'll keep your kids safe.

    I told the Badwhite kids about the time they hit 6th grade that everything they have learned and are going to learn in school about race is a lie. Tell your teachers what they want to hear, then proceed on course.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I told the Badwhite kids about the time they hit 6th grade that everything they have learned and are going to learn in school about race is a lie. "

    I see you are indoctrinating your kids in a similar fashion.
  114. @J.Ross
    Yeah, talk about mainstream media blind spots, apparently Northern LA suburbs are on fire, 50 fires identified in a few hours, San Francisco is in tarantula mating season, PG&E has cut power up north with at least obe death from a guy depending on an oxygen machine, and there's chatter that the power may be cut in places in the SoCal (to prevent wildfires like happened a year ago).

    Tarantulas are harmless and somewhat delicate, though I’ve never encountered one in the wild, I thought they were tropical. San Diego has the warmest winter nights in California, but still goes down to the mid 40s some nights and 50s more often. Not tropical. (Warmest winter days are in the desert where the typical winter high is 70 and low is 40.)

    Black widows are common and dangerous. I kill dozens a year.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    They are common in North Texas, my friend, including areas where it can freeze and snow in the winter (I'm speaking of the Denton area, particularly in the cattle/horse country around Sanger). It gave me a nasty shock the first time I saw one up close, the thing was as big as my hand and it scuttled right at me. In fairness, I'm sure it was just startled by something and had no intentions to attack. The Texans, of course, teased Yanks like me by claiming that the tarantula could jump a six foot fence, and that its bite was deadly. The spider the natives were actually wary of was something called a "fiddler spider," which could kill you. I never did get used to the sight of the tarantulas in Texas, or the rattlers either.

    That's all for now.
    , @J.Ross
    You misread: it's tarantulas which are the victim and not San Jonestown. Surely tarantulas are not used to scuttling through human feces?
  115. @Counterinsurgency

    We are a conquered people
     
    Please take a look at Kevin McDonald's _Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition_, search Amazon.com . He does an excellent job of showing the internal divisions that make it possible for Whites to abdicate control of the West to non-Western entities. Essentially, the abdication was sold as a specific moral and religious duty that can be shown to have been extremely influential in the West as far back as the 1700s.
    If you want to be un-conquered, you have to be able to counter (starting with convincing yourself yourself) the arguments and people responsible for selling the abdication to the Western public. Otherwise you will be defeated by the internal feeling of moral and religious duty, or by groups who believe they have that moral and religious duty.
    On the bright side [1], duty isn't well thought of, nor is morality nor religion, so the effect of the moral/religions argument is weakening.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] a pretty dark bright side.

    “ extremely influential in the West as far back as the 1700s.”

    The West in the 1700 and 1800s sure was awful with all those influential individualists.

    And what about those nefarious Judiazing-heresy protestants too?

  116. @gabriel alberton

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?
     
    A particular fallacy might arise here. It takes two forms.

    The first is that something being innate, inborn, natural, must mean it is good and right.

    The second, which is the first's corollary, I guess, is that something being bad, immoral, depraved, wrong, must mean it is not natural or inborn.

    An hypothesis: conservatives fall more for the first statement, liberals for the second, though they're two sides of the same coin.

    The first is that something being innate, inborn, natural, must mean it is good and right.

    From an evolutionary perspective, it usually is.

    conservatives fall more for the first statement, liberals for the second, though they’re two sides of the same coin.

    I think the difference is conservatives don’t then refuse to process additional information. Our assumption generally is that if something is natural, it is more likely than not that it developed that way for a reason, and then look for that reason. But we’re willing to consider other possibilities. Liberals just hold their hands over their ears.

    For example, when it comes to human societies we are willing to consider the possibility that everyone that came before us was not a blithering idiot and things are the way they are for a reason. Example, skepticism about “gay marriage”. Conservatives consider the possibility that the fact no known human society anywhere on the planet, spanning multiple continents and countless religions, has had homosexual marriage so maybe there are reasons. Liberals chalk it up to “ignorance” and “hate”.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  117. @guest
    "Social class"

    As opposed to what? Taxonomic class?

    I realize "social" is appended to nouns willy-nilly, but I wonder why we're modifying class in this manner. We've been easing off economic class as something of interest for a long while, in favor of other aspects of social socialistical socialmismses. For instance what kind of external genitalia you'd prefer to possess.

    “Social class” As opposed to what? Taxonomic class?

    Could be character class. My buddies and I gave the kids from the fighter school nearby a pretty hard time back in the unenlightened eighties (we were budding magic-users).

  118. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Tarantulas are harmless and somewhat delicate, though I’ve never encountered one in the wild, I thought they were tropical. San Diego has the warmest winter nights in California, but still goes down to the mid 40s some nights and 50s more often. Not tropical. (Warmest winter days are in the desert where the typical winter high is 70 and low is 40.)

    Black widows are common and dangerous. I kill dozens a year.

    They are common in North Texas, my friend, including areas where it can freeze and snow in the winter (I’m speaking of the Denton area, particularly in the cattle/horse country around Sanger). It gave me a nasty shock the first time I saw one up close, the thing was as big as my hand and it scuttled right at me. In fairness, I’m sure it was just startled by something and had no intentions to attack. The Texans, of course, teased Yanks like me by claiming that the tarantula could jump a six foot fence, and that its bite was deadly. The spider the natives were actually wary of was something called a “fiddler spider,” which could kill you. I never did get used to the sight of the tarantulas in Texas, or the rattlers either.

    That’s all for now.

  119. The People’s Republic of Santa Monica Ca. public library will celebrate National Coming Out Day with a Drag Queen Story Hour for adults; discussion to follow. It’s at a tiny branch library Ocean Park.

    I doubt anyone came to the event . It’s in a neighborhood of single family homes in which live 50 to 90 year old long term married White couples. Most conservative part of the Left Side.

  120. @D Bob
    It's not racism, you idiots, it's being comfortable with what you know the best.
    A white baby brought up in a black household would prefer blacks at six months. A baby whose family wore green hockey masks and red leather gloves all the time would prefer that.

    We had a Chinese nanny from when the boys were about a month old to about 2 when we moved. They must have noticed 2 Whites called mommy and daddy and a Chinese woman called Mary. Never thought to ask them about it. They couldn’t talk anyway.

  121. @Paul Jolliffe
    J. Ross said:"Tarantula mating season."

    I've actually walked around on Mt. Diablo in the fall, but I didn't notice any of the hairy arachnids who were "fired up" (a euphemism, naturally!)

    Thousands of 'em, coming up out of the ground, scurrying about for up to a mile, all looking for love. But the part that really gives me the creeps is . . . the female eats the male after mating.

    (There's an analogy somewhere in there for contemporary society . . .)

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tarantulas-emerge-to-mate-san-francisco-bay-area-2019-10

    (There’s an analogy somewhere in there for contemporary society . . .)

    With humans the post-marital cannibalism is deferred until the divorce! By that time the male doesn’t mind the sweet embrace of death.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  122. NPR? Isn’t that the radio channel for white Lesbians?

    Always on about something…

  123. NPR: Begin Indoctrinating Your Baby About Race at Age 6 Months

    Oh, don’t worry. I did.

  124. @Sergeant Prepper
    If you wait until the child is six months old, it may well be too late. When my wife went for an ultrasound scan, my unborn boy made the OK gesture. White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot's head before he took his first breath. The only way to prevent this is to think of Critical Race Theory while you're getting your wife pregnant.

    Only abortion can prevent racism, only assisted suicide can eliminate it. That’s where these idiots are going. Seems that white lefties are more aroused against “racism” from their gated communities than the supposed victims. Having worked around numerous blacks “racism” is not their main concern, a decent job and a safe neighborhood is.

  125. @Hodag
    When my daughter said in the car after school in 1st grade that the black girls in her class seemed very loud...I said get used to it.

    When my daughter said in the car after school in 1st grade that the black girls in her class seemed very loud…I said get used to it.

    I grew up in a metro area which, until recently, had virtually no blacks. The first time I ever saw some I was maybe four years old. They were skycaps at the airport. I wasn’t even sure they were human. This being the Southwest, I had already had extensive exposure to Mexicans and Indians and knew they were different from us, but I never doubted they were human.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    What makes you now sure they are human...?
  126. @Kronos
    https://youtu.be/x6MxvzliG6I

    It’s a great video.

    Also ironic. This dude wears a man-bun in real like. It’s not just a part of the costume.

  127. @Sergeant Prepper
    If you wait until the child is six months old, it may well be too late. When my wife went for an ultrasound scan, my unborn boy made the OK gesture. White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot's head before he took his first breath. The only way to prevent this is to think of Critical Race Theory while you're getting your wife pregnant.

    That’s one way to prevent PE, or any E for that matter.

  128. They say race doesn’t exist, then they say race does exist.

    Supremacist hypocrisy. Lies.

  129. @silviosilver
    I can see now where my parents went wrong. I can remember the day clearly, like it was yesterday. There I was at five months and thirty days-old, absently rolling around in my cot, when I again heard vaguely familiar voices emanating from this rectangular object in the corner of the room. This occurred regularly enough that I was beginning to get used to it. So as usual, I gazed at the box, bemused by both sight and sound. The next day, it happened again. Only this time -- remember, I'd just turned six months -- I became aware of something I hadn't noticed before. One of the people on TV, he didn't look like either of my parents, or anyone else I'd ever seen. The experience was so jarring I began to cry uncontrollably. Yes, he was a black man.

    My mother -- that bitch -- do you think she said anything about it? Sure, she rushed over to mollify me, but did she try to explain to me that even though we looked so different, that even though we might prefer people who like us and that he might prefer people who looked like him, that even though what I'd some day learn was called "science" had determined there were important differences between us, that despite all this, we were actually equal -- indeed that, since people like us had at one time been cruel to people like him, he was, for the time being, in a sense "more equal" than us, and that for the foreseeable future we'd have to treat him preferentially until such time as, well... nobody really knows... but till whenever anyway, and all of this despite the fact that this thing called "science" gave nobody any real reason to think actual equality could ever be achieved, and that some day my life prospects would in large part hinge on my ability to feign ignorance of this knowledge. Do you think my mother explained any of that to me? Of course not. So is it any wonder I'm so messed up today?

    and that for the foreseeable future we’d have to treat him preferentially until such time as, well… nobody really knows…

    I guess we have to wait for NPR to tell us when we can stop.

  130. @Nick Diaz
    I agree with Sailer on this one: considering that "race" is a pseudo-scientific concept based on the misuse of taxonomy, 19th century colonialism and incorrect assumptions about the implications of Darwin's Theory, no indocrination about "race" should be given to children. Instead, if children are actually confronted with racist behavior and inquire the parents or legal guardians about it, they should just be told that some people REALLY care about skin color, and that those people are silly and evil.

    some people REALLY care about skin color, and that those people are silly and evil.

    But only “those people” who themselves have pale skin, of course.

  131. @Lot
    Tarantulas are harmless and somewhat delicate, though I’ve never encountered one in the wild, I thought they were tropical. San Diego has the warmest winter nights in California, but still goes down to the mid 40s some nights and 50s more often. Not tropical. (Warmest winter days are in the desert where the typical winter high is 70 and low is 40.)

    Black widows are common and dangerous. I kill dozens a year.

    You misread: it’s tarantulas which are the victim and not San Jonestown. Surely tarantulas are not used to scuttling through human feces?

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Surely tarantulas are not used to scuttling through human feces?”

    SF has the richest, choicest street feces, chockfull of heroin, meth, HIV, and mostly-digested artisanal organic fair trade produce.
  132. Pure BS. I see middle school kids getting off the bus and white and black kids are socializing. Of course, this is in a mixed-race, but predominantly WHITE town. If the white kids were outnumbered, the situation might well be different.

  133. @Laurence Whelk
    From the article:

    “...children are hard-wired to notice differences at a young age...”

    "there's all sorts of research that suggest that children very early on notice definitely physical differences between different people and they make meaning of those differences. And there's discrimination very early on."

    “...infants as young as six months old showed a preference for members of their own race and against members of different races. And this us vs. them mentality extends beyond physical differences.”

    "Babies did seem to care more about who was like them than they cared about niceness and meanness,"
     
    If in-group preference seems to be so hard wired into human psychology, perhaps there are real advantages there?

    If we were studying the behavior of any other species, would we assume that the common innate behaviors of the vast majority of individuals are wrong and should be altered?

    In answer to your Q, “Yes, b/c it’s the Current Year!”

  134. @J.Ross
    You misread: it's tarantulas which are the victim and not San Jonestown. Surely tarantulas are not used to scuttling through human feces?

    “Surely tarantulas are not used to scuttling through human feces?”

    SF has the richest, choicest street feces, chockfull of heroin, meth, HIV, and mostly-digested artisanal organic fair trade produce.

  135. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    White propaganda somehow got into the little bigot’s head before he took his first breath. The only way to prevent this is to think of Critical Race Theory while you’re getting your wife pregnant.
     
    That also helps to, you know, last longer....

    If you’re a liberal,it may speed you up!

  136. @El Dato
    What is the difference between Vice News and Vox News? Serious question.

    The color of the dildo? Fox News might use a genuine blackboard with chalk.

  137. I look forward to the political rise of the Otherkin and Furries. We can then anticipate pregnant women inflicting blows to their own bellies to punish their fetuses for developing from fused gamete-kin into horrid fully human babies.

    No, wait. That’s already a thing on World Star and social media.

    Never mind. Sigh.

    Honk honk.

  138. @Prof. Woland
    It seems like whenever a study like this is done, they only test whites for prejudice. In the NPR article the author gives us this

    " 'Why is this person darker than me?'
     
    They could have said, "why is the person lighter than me or why is their hair straight?" but I think we all know why.

    Why is this person darker than me?

    It’s Mother Nature’s way of telling you they belong somewhere else. 😉

  139. @Ano
    In Brave New World babies were socially conditioned by giving them electric shocks.

    NPR should do a follow up and interview researchers at the Stanley Milgram Liberal School of Progressive Childhood Education (mission statement: Out with Dr Spock- in with SHOCK).

    Hmmm (thinking), any iSteve reader interested in going into business partnership with me to sell tasers to Babies R Us?

    (Dear iSteve Moderator, I'm just joking. I don't need a business partner.)

    Babies R Us is defunct, friend.

    (I’d mention Woolworths, but I’m afraid it might be like telling the truth about the Easter Bunny to a toddler…let’s just say you may want to sit down before you type their name into Google.)

  140. @Ray Huffman
    When my daughter said in the car after school in 1st grade that the black girls in her class seemed very loud…I said get used to it.

    I grew up in a metro area which, until recently, had virtually no blacks. The first time I ever saw some I was maybe four years old. They were skycaps at the airport. I wasn't even sure they were human. This being the Southwest, I had already had extensive exposure to Mexicans and Indians and knew they were different from us, but I never doubted they were human.

    What makes you now sure they are human…?

  141. My kid goosestepped out of the womb. Alas too many white people in the Lamaze classes must have damaged Junior from the get go. I now read Toni Morrison and Ta Nehisi Coats out loud whenever wifey and I are trying. There’s hope for our future progeny.

  142. @William Badwhite
    I told the Badwhite kids about the time they hit 6th grade that everything they have learned and are going to learn in school about race is a lie. Tell your teachers what they want to hear, then proceed on course.

    “I told the Badwhite kids about the time they hit 6th grade that everything they have learned and are going to learn in school about race is a lie. ”

    I see you are indoctrinating your kids in a similar fashion.

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