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I asked last night if there would be a riot in Chicago after the release of body camera video showing a cop shooting junior gangbanger Adam “Lil’ Homicide” Toledo about a second after he’d sneakily ditched the gun he’d been holding. From WGN TV in Chicago:

Adam Toledo shooting: Protests call for justice after release of video showing teen killed by Chicago police
By Jesse Kirsch
Friday, April 16, 2021 4:08AM

CHICAGO (WLS) — The release of video showing the fatal shooting of 13-year-old Adam Toledo by a Chicago police officer sparked peaceful protests downtown and in the West Loop Thursday night.

Dozens took to the streets, protesting police and calling for justice for Adam Toledo. One group marched from Millennium Park up Michigan Avenue to the Magnificent Mile.

The split second decision by the Chicago police officer is under scrutiny as video is released of the fatal shooting.

Later, others made their way through the West Loop. Both protests briefly blocked traffic and then there was a protest right outside Chicago Police Headquarters.

“He put his hands up and was still murdered. So I have a question: what more could he have done?” said Rabbi Michael Ben Yosef, Chicago Activist Coalition for Justice.

Not be a gang member, not be out on the streets in the wee hours with a guy who fires 8 shots, not take the gun from the 20 year old shooter who didn’t want to be tried as an adult, not flee from the police with the gun in his hand, not ditch the gun behind a fence in a surreptitious manner hoping the cops won’t notice him dropping the gun, and, tactically, not turn around until his hands are already raised to not make it look like he’s turning to shoot it out.

ABC 7’s analysis of the bodycam video is here.

Ahead of Thursday’s emotional events, the city and some businesses prepared for the possibility of violence. Windows were boarded up and city vehicles stood ready to block traffic, scenes reminiscent of last spring.

Toledo was from Little Village, the main Mexican neighborhood in Chicago. During the George Floyd Memorial Riots last May, Latin Kings gang members took up armed patrol of Little Village and drove off carloads of potential black looters. So, in retrospect, it’s easy to see why black / Mexican solidarity turned out to be a chimera.

It’s almost as if the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes doesn’t quite jibe with the Democrats’ assumption of Black Supremacy.

By the way, my question last night about whether there’d be a riot or not illustrates a subtle difference between my approach and the Philip Tetlock Superforecaster approach endorsed by Scott Alexander and Arnold Kling, who is running a contest to see which pundit has the best 2021, including giving credit for making quantified forecasts.

I’m more inclined to ask relevant questions about fairly novel events that I’m uncertain about. Sure, if a 13 year old black kid had been shot there would have been riots and if a 13 year old white kid had been shot there would not only have been no riots but the story might not even have made the national news.

A 13 year old Mexican kid, however, falls into the beige zone from which it was worth raising the question to find out what the answer was.

In general, in Kling’s contest, I fear I’m not going to turn out to be a good use of a first round draft pick for subtle reasons of how my personality interacts with the rules of the game.

For one thing, I seldom feel the urge to make predictions about propositions that have near term time limits, such as elections. One reason is because I’m risk averse. I don’t like to give my enemies easy ways to make fun of me by getting something definitely wrong.

A more subtle reason is that I don’t like time-limited topics because the utility of the facts I’d need to learn drops way off after the time limit expires.

Also, most of the I bets I come up with involve currently existing facts, which could be looked up. For example, if I read an article in praise of looting with a picture of an odd-looking person wearing a ladylike dress and pearls, my Spidey-Sense likely tells me: I bet that’s an ex-man. But that kind of “I bet” isn’t a real bet on the future because my urge is to immediately look up whether I’m right or not. If I’m not right, I might not ever mention it.

A another reason is that arenas that are attractive for betting or investing purposes, such as predicting elections from polls, attract talent and thus leave me with little opportunity to add value. Perhaps if I’d gone full time into election analysis in 2005, I could have beaten Nate Silver to dominance of that niche by a year or two. But, I’m more of a dilettante by nature, who gets bored with topics after awhile. And now that Silver methodically wrings most of the obvious value out of election polls, I tend not to have much interest in predicting elections because if anybody asks me, my first thought is, “I dunno … What does Nate Silver say? He’s not perfect, but he’s better than most at his job.”

Fourth, my incentives are sometimes at odds with my being right. For example, I might try to predict whether in this summer’s Olympics, the remarkable streak of 9 straight Olympics in which all eight finalists in the men’s 100m dash are substantially sub-Saharan will continue. I’d say off hand, without looking into the contenders this spring, that the odds are that the streak will continue. On the other hand, I don’t believe that is a sure thing. Some nonblacks usually make the semifinals, so one might enjoy some luck this this time and make the finals.

So, if I predict that Sub-Saharans will make up all 8 finalists and that comes true, that’s a pretty ho-hum prediction. After all, it’s happened 9 times in a row. If I’m wrong, it will be seen as PROOF that Sailer is a charlatan.

On the other hand, if I predict that this streak will end this time, if I’m right I look good for two reasons: I predicted something unexpected, and I help demonstrate that I’m actually a moderate, reasonable student of nature vs. nurture rather than the rigid HBD extremist of legend. If I turn out wrong, and the streak goes to 10 Olympics in a row, well that just shows that reality is more HBD than even Sailer expected.

Also, I have a hard time thinking in terms of percentages such as 90% or 60% probability. Obviously, if I bet on a large number of propositions, the arithmetic works out well. But I can’t see myself doing enough for that to kick in.

Finally, does betting make for better analysis? I could imagine that having publicly established positions on the probability of many things might make me less willing to update my expectations and instead hunker down and explain why I was really right, rather than just learn from experience.

 
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  1. Not surprising given the victim’s race. The usual suspects are apparently still whinging all the same of course. Their refusal to acknowledge the split second decision the officer was forced to make is frustrating but preferable to wanton destruction of course.

    As someone with some police training I don’t think I would have shot little Homicide. However I also never worked patrol anywhere half as dangerous as Chicago, not counting a brief emergency shift in a similarly “diverse” city.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  2. Jack D says:

    Here is “Rabbi” Ben Yosef:

    He is a “rabbi” in the same way that the “Reverend” Sharpton is a minister – they are both self-ordained.

    There is a group of black “Jews” in Chicago among whom was some relative of Michelle Obama. In the early 20th century when black nationalism began to stir, there was a rejection of Christianity by some American blacks. Some decided that they should be “Muslims” and some became “Jews” but since they were deeply ignorant people, their versions of “Judaism” and “Islam” were sort of fun house mirror versions of the real thing. Really, Judaism, with its emphasis on scholarship (the “People of the Book”) is a poor fit for blacks and Islam, with its prohibition on alcohol is not really a good fit either. Not to mention the loss of pork products beloved by blacks. Christianity really is the best fit for blacks.

  3. anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    It looks like CBS has been caught editing the video to make Adam Toledo, aka Li’l Homicide, look like he was unarmed.

    Same stuff NBC did with the 911 audio in the Trayvon Martin case.

  4. Not Raul says:

    I enjoyed reading about your thought process, Steve. You’re a wise man.

    Being wrong so often hasn’t seemed to have hurt Bill Kristol’s career as a pundit; but he has powerful allies, while there are people waiting to pounce if you screw up.

    • Agree: Tony massey
  5. Not Raul says:
    @Jack D

    Do you have something against Christians, Jack?

  6. ic1000 says:

    > The release of video showing the fatal shooting of 13-year-old Adam Toledo by a Chicago police officer sparked peaceful protests downtown and in the West Loop Thursday night.

    There are three kinds of demonstrations.
    * Peaceful Social Justice protests
    * Mostly Peaceful Social Justice protests
    * Deadly Right-Wing Insurrections

    > if a 13 year old white kid had been shot there would not only have been no riots but the story might not even have made the national news.

    If a 13 year old white kid had been shot the story would not have made the national news.

  7. @Jack D

    “There is a group of black ‘Jews’ in Chicago among whom was some relative of Michelle Obama.”

    Ah, yes, “Rabbi” Capers C. Funnye, Jr., head of the supposedly 200-member Beth Shalom B’nai Zaken Ethiopian Hebrew Congregation in Chicago. The former First Lady is his first cousin, once removed. (Knowing Mrs. Obama, the removal probably didn’t go smoothly.)

    Funnye, he doesn’t look Jewish…

  8. Dmon says:

    Hey, since it’s early in the thread, and Jack D. is a lawyer, let me hijack it for a moment.
    What would be the legal prospects of a case brought by a bunch of state attorney’s general against Coca Cola? Same basic idea as the tobacco lawsuits – Coke is killing children through obesity and diabetes. Granted, no tobacco execs actually served jail time IRL, but at least it’s a possible avenue to f#%& with the bastards, and it’s one way to get SAGs to jump on board because of the shakedown $$ involved (you have to make it worth a politician’s while). Maybe Steve can go into the SCIF in his closet and relay this to Tucker via the secure hotline. If it has legs, United Airlines is destroying the atmosphere with their jet emissions, MLB is warming the earth with all the damn farting cows they have to skin to make their baseballs, etc.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  9. In general, in Kling’s contest, I fear I’m not going to turn out to be a good use of a first round draft pick for subtle reasons of how my personality interacts with the rules of the game.

    For one thing …

    A more subtle reason is…

    Also…

    Another reason is…

    Fourth, my incentives are sometimes at odds with my being right.

    On the other hand…™

    Also…

    [MORE]

    Finally…

    That is a wonderful description of Systemic anti-Stevism and any resulting Disparate Impact of results. There should be a way to give more Equity to Steve. At least he has Inclusion in this case.

    Steve of course is 6’3 (and 2/3!)” tall, so the picture, and this entire comment, might be incomprehensible to Americans who don’t understand analogies.

    • Replies: @Pontius
  10. martin_2 says:

    The contrast with blacks is telling, IMO.

    Mexicans, like the Pakistani Muslims in the UK where I live, are presumably capable of forming thriving and functional communities, and one feature of a functional community is that criminals are not considered to be among its normal members. Therefore regular Mexicans will have no sympathy for an aspiring gangbanger. So there will be no rioting.

    OTOH, blacks cannot create functional communities, and a criminal black, such as George Floyd, is a regular black, which is why other blacks can see themselves in him, and why they riot.

    • Agree: BB753, Ron Mexico, AndrewR
    • Replies: @BB753
  11. @Jack D

    Interesting.

    Jack D supports “open borders” for the usa (and “open christianity”) – and closed borders for israel, particularly against africans like ethiopians. And of course africans can never be real J*ws.

    They are too transparent these days.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  12. Jack D says:
    @Dmon

    You’re not the first to think of this.

    https://cspinet.org/news/lawsuit-alleges-coca-cola-american-beverage-association-deceiving-public-about-soda-related#:~:text=Despite%20the%20scientifically%20established%20link,to%20a%20lawsuit%20filed%20today.

    At one time I would have said such a lawsuit involving a product that is safe (when consumed in reasonable quantities) and legal and where the “victims” voluntarily chose to consume (too much of) the product would go nowhere but who knows nowadays – we are living in Wonderland now and all bets are off.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  13. Ron Unz says:

    Over the years, a certain number of young Latinos have been killed by police under questionable circumstances.

    For example, I remember a few years ago in Marin County north of SF, a Latino teenager with no criminal associations was just walking down the road with his BB gun when he was shot and killed by an overly nervous police officer who mistakenly believed he was carrying a rifle (I think it was missing the correct orange-tip or something). It got some attention and there were local protests, but certainly no riots or anything violent.

    Offhand, I can’t think of a single riot or violent protest that’s ever followed the killing of a Latino youngster. Maybe someone else can, but I do think they’re extremely rare.

    So if there’s almost never been such a violent Latino protest, I wouldn’t have expected one in Chicago. Though I suppose the local black criminals and white antifa might have have used it as a pretext for looting and burning…

  14. Anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:

    So, if I predict that Sub-Saharans will make up all 8 finalists and that comes true, that’s a pretty ho-hum prediction. After all, it’s happened 9 times in a row. If I’m wrong, it will be seen as PROOF that Sailer is a charlatan.

    This is why you need instead to try to be the person not actually making the bets, but publishing the odds & the line, like Cook Political Report PVI, which affords a side business profiting off mass irrationality on top of mere heads/tails outcomes. Taleb explained in Fooled By Randomness how any system with enough participants will produce an algebraically determined supply of “clairvoyants” getting it right umpteen times in a row via dumb luck. Not all, but certainly some SABR-metrics are just meta-stats used to overcome the 50-50 fallacy

  15. @Ron Unz

    Though I suppose the local black criminals and white antifa might have have used it as a pretext for looting and burning…

    Steve’s point is more in the direction that there is not much of a real coalition there, so blacks and antifa ignore the plight of Latinos.

    The fact that there is never much in the nature of rioting when Latinos are the perceived victims of injustice is just more evidence of the average differences in behavior between races.

    Whites don’t really riot much in response to anti-white injustice either. If they did, the whole country would be burning right now.

    Erectus walks amongst us all.

  16. t says:

    Don’t worry he was white please don’t loot

  17. Jack D says:
    @Smarter Than Unz dot Com

    Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Can you tell me what else I support besides open borders? Pedophilia? Necrophilia? Infanticide?

    Are you saying that you support “closed Christianity”? What would Jesus say about that?

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  18. My so-called friends gave me the name of “Li’l Homicide”.
    No one could steer me right but Mama tried, Mama tried,
    Mama tried to save me from this fatal toro Brahma ride.
    That leaves only me to blame, ’cause Mama tried.

  19. This explains something. Lori Lightfoot was practically begging them to riot. But they didn’t. She wanted them to riot to prove…. what?

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  20. LLDM = Latinx Lives Don’t Matter

    At least, Latinx lives don’t matter enough to SJW goodthinkers to riot on a regular basis.

  21. jsinton says:

    Of course there’s no riots over a Mexican. Let the Mexicans loot their own shoes.

  22. @Gary in Gramercy

    Ethiopianism among African-Americans is ironic, given that real Ethiopians (i.e., Abyssinians) don’t consider themselves to be black!

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    , @AndrewR
  23. Kyle says:

    There could be riots & looting if this blows up on black Twitter, otherwise it’s a non story and nobody will hear about it. Or should I say the kinds of people who looted that dollar store won’t hear much about it. Nice white lady Twitter can lament & posture as much as it likes, but it looks like this is shaping up to be a non story.

  24. @Buzz Mohawk

    Whites don’t really riot much in response to anti-white injustice either. If they did, the whole country would be burning right now.

    C’mon, haven’t you heard of the old saying, “Blacks riot, whites vote Republican”?

    Problem with that is it never got whites much, and now, nothing, whereas rioting gets blacks cred and power.

  25. @Jack D

    At least nobody accuses you of putting Ketchup on hot dogs.

  26. BB753 says:
    @martin_2

    Another point is that rioting isn’t a natural reaction, or the first reaction, to any given problem in a functional community.

  27. Anonymous[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    If you listen to the audio from the CPD officer’s body cam closely you’ll hear the officer say, “Stop!… Stop!… Ron Unz said you people aren’t criminals! … Stop!…”

    • Replies: @Tony massey
  28. @Buzz Mohawk

    The fact that there is never much in the nature of rioting when Latinos are the perceived victims of injustice is just more evidence of the average differences in behavior between races.

    The vast majority of Hispanics are probably more familiar with the typical scumbaggery of the average “victim” shot by the cops, and have no illusions about these people or the sleazy journalists propping them up as saints. Journalists are players on all sides of the power politics of Latin America, both as instigators and targets.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  29. unwoke says:

    “…white kid had been shot there would not only have been no riots but the story might not even have made the national news.”

    …which brings up the strange case of Michael Forest Reinoehl, no kid certainly at 48, but kid-like. Reinoehl was the antifa dude who shot dead a Trump supporter, Aaron Danielson in Portland last summer. About a week later, Reinhoel himself was gunned down at an apartment complex in Washington state by an eclectic group of cops who shot him multiple times in the head & chest, akin to a gangland hit job. A witness at the site said Reinhoel was walking & eating at the time & did not pull a gun. The county coroner ruled it a homicide. And yet Antifa & BLM or activists didn’t riot or even make any public statements. The officers involved were never indicted & the U.S. media buried the story. Case closed. hmmmm

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Pericles
    , @Old Brown Fool
  30. @Paperback Writer

    Yet Rastafarians revere Haile Selassie, Emperor of Ethiopia 1930-1974, either as a human prophet or as Jah incarnate. The Rastas definitely consider themselves black.

    I suppose it’s a waste of time trying to find logic or consistency in this kind of self-proclaimed religious, ethnic or national origin affiliation.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  31. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Coalition of the fringes is fraying.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9479047/White-Yale-professor-branded-racist-interrupted-black-councilman-meeting.html

    White Yale professor is branded racist, compared to ex-cop Derek Chauvin and told to resign from her councilwoman job because she interrupted a black man and told him to address her as ‘doctor’ during virtual meeting

    • On April 5, Hamden Councilwoman Valerie Horsley interrupted Councilman Justin Farmer

    • Farmer was asking a question about how the town was paying for an ice rink

    • She interrupted, saying ‘point of order!’ over Zoom

    • He replied: ‘That is well taken, councilwoman Horseley’

    • She shot back: ‘Dr Horseley, thank you,’ then mouthed the F-word and shook her head’

    • She apologized on Facebook after being criticized for her behavior

    • He has accepted her apology, saying it’s in everyone’s best interest to move on

    • Now, there is a Change.org petition comparing her to Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin

    • The petition organizers said she ‘knelt on Farmer’s neck’ just like Chauvin knelt on George Floyd’s

    She needs to be put on trial! Confiscate her wealth as reparation!

    Btw, she a big SJW shitlib and her Twitter page has a BLM banner: https://twitter.com/ValerieJHorsley

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    , @Polemos
  32. @Jack D

    “Self-ordained”, haha!

    A friend of mine got a Doctor of Divinity in the mail. There’s no hard work involved, but he had to pay 25 bucks.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  33. @Buzz Mohawk

    At least nobody accuses you of putting Ketchup on hot dogs.

    With apologies to Dirty Harry, as someone who is partial towards that particular condiment on hot dogs, I resent the implication that this is somehow gauche and unrefined.

  34. @Gary in Gramercy

    Ah, yes, “Rabbi” Capers C. Funnye, Jr.

    The creators of Butterworth Stavely, Galahad Threepwood, Lady Cordelia Flyte, Vesper Lynd, Balph Eubank, Filius Flitwick, Anathema Device, and Clyde Crashcup would have rejected this name for being too divorced from reality to be credible.

  35. Not be a gang member,……….out.

    Even better, train cops to actually be sure of their target before they fire off a few rounds. If they don’t want to take that risk, cool. We can start cutting bloated cop paychecks, ending platinum benefits, and make sure they don’t touch a penny of pension until they hit age 72. And end the practice of them moonlighting in taxpayer provided uniforms while exercising government authority on behalf of a private employer.

    • Agree: Arthur Biggs
  36. So, there won’t be a punk song called ,”Brown Riot”?

  37. Nope, No Riot in Chicago Last Night Over Mexican Kid Shot by a Cop

    It’s not LA. The Machine doesn’t want a bean.

    Little Village, the main Mexican neighborhood in Chicago

    There are 776,000 Hispanics in Chicago proper, not necessarily all Mexicans. Still, that would constitute the 22nd largest city in Mexico, and qualify for a tie with Merida for 12th in 2010.

    Hispanic Chicago would be at #17 in the US, ahead of Pittsburgh, St Louis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Oakland, Miami, Kansas City, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Detroit, Boston, Washington, Denver, and Seattle, to list just those cities with their names on major league baseball jerseys.

  38. Finally, does betting make for better analysis?

    Yes, unequivocally.

    I could imagine that having publicly established positions on the probability of many things might make me less willing to update my expectations and instead hunker down and explain why I was really right, rather than just learn from experience.

    If you suffered from that flaw, then you would eventually go broke in the betting markets, and someone more suited would overtake your influence.

    That said, not updating underlying probabilities that you objectively believe to be right, no matter the short-term variance, is no flaw.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  39. “One reason is because I’m risk averse.”

    No you’re not. I don’t know much about you, Sailer. The private detective I hired was cheap and lazy. But I can reasonably assume you have the ability to succeed in the corporate world. This is not a compliment. You chose a path that took you to a closet. Undoubtedly you had opportunities to step off the path but you kept chugging along towards the closet. It could be worse: my closet is a basement that contains an undead wolf whistler turned civil rights martyr and a ventriloquist dummy who likes to walk around the house at night. (I will never give up this bit). So the way I see it you’re either self-destructive or on a mission.

  40. Nassim Taleb uses “skin in the game” as a Metric for how authentic or true a pundit’s prediction is. Jordan Peterson probably believes what he says about trans pronouns because he risked getting fired for his comments. Robert Reich defends looting and defunding the police on Twitter, but he lives in a white enclave far Removed from said looting. If he lived on Chicago’s South Side or in the Latin Kings neighborhood and still advocated for defunding the police, we’d know he was serious.

    Now this doesn’t mean those opinions are necessarily accurate or correct, but we’d know the pundits who voiced them were being true to themselves.

    First, Is this an accurate representation of the “skin in the game” concept?

    Second, does Steve have skin in the game? If so, how much?

  41. Sean says:

    Not be a gang member, not be out on the streets in the wee hours with a guy who fires 8 shots, not take the gun from the 20 year old shooter who didn’t want to be tried as an adult, not flee from the police with the gun in his hand, not ditch the gun behind a fence in a surreptitious manner hoping the cops won’t notice him dropping the gun, and, tactically, not turn around until his hands are already raised to not make it look like he’s turning to shoot it out.

    Not do as the cop said when he said ‘Show me your hands’. Obeying that instruction was the last thing the 13 year old did.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  42. @Buzz Mohawk

    “putting Ketchup [sic?] on hot dogs”

    If you’re still putting [catsup] on hot dogs after passing the age of 16 it means you’re probably homosexual.

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  43. JimDandy says:
    @Aeronerauk

    Once I saw the gun come out, I probably would have shot him. Some would say that means I shouldn’t be a cop. In that case, who should be a cop? I guess the answer is: A person who is willing to die in order to save the life of an armed criminal who has already demonstrated that he really doesn’t want to be arrested.

    I think there is a long-range plan to federalize local policing. I also think we are going to see a much different police force in coming years–lots more trans and lesbian cops and more black and hispanic cops with heavier gang affiliations. Basically, the BLM and Antifa rioters of today are the cops of tomorrow.

    Speaking of which, I was quick to weigh in yesterday and say that BLM would not riot over the justified shooting of Lil Homicide. However, Chicago’s Logan Square is a hispanic neighborhood that is also filled with woke hipsters and other Antifa-adjacents. I think some glass will shatter there tonight.

    • Agree: Aeronerauk
    • Replies: @scrivener3
  44. @Jack D

    Not to mention the loss of pork products beloved by blacks. Christianity really is the best fit for blacks.

    Do Jews that understand America actually exist?
    There is a reason that Sunday is often called the most segregated day of the week, and it’s not because blacks are any better suited for traditional Christianity than they are suited for mainline Islam or Judaism.

  45. @Johann Ricke

    I would agree that Latinos are probably more realistic about things. They certainly seem to be in my experience.

    We here who complain about immigration from South of the Border would do well to specify that our concerns are more ones of economics and population than race or culture. Ron Unz has repeatedly implored us here to reconsider the racial complaints and indeed insults that we sometimes fall into.

    [MORE]

    I posit that he has a point, even if a more detailed reply to me here proves this only half right and splits hairs enough to show concerning numbers.

    In any case, Latino people (okay, “Hispanics,” whatever that means) have been a noble segment of our Southwestern population since the beginning of the United States, in fact since long before.

    I grew up for many years in a part of the country where there were many Hispanics descended from hundreds of years of Americans. My first friend in Colorado was one. We camped and climbed mountains together. His father was a veterinarian, mine was an engineer. My experiences out there left me with a positive feeling about Southwestern Hispanics.

    However, I am adamant that we need to limit or even call a moratorium on immigration. Why? Because we need to secure the jobs and incomes for the people who already live here, and because I am not a fan of large populations. We have more than enough Americans in the US. In this case it has more to do with that than with who the people are.

    With one exception: “Erectus Walks Amongst Us.” There is one race of people who are more distantly related to us and to the Latinos or to anybody else. They have a problem, but their ancestors were brought here against their will as cheap labor centuries go. We have inherited this problem.

    As I repeatedly say, cheap labor is not cheap. Eventually somebody pays a big price for it.

    This time, in our time, the cheap labor is coming from countries to our south, and it is not helping. The people themselves are not so much to blame. They are hardworking, and they are here to make money and raise families. They value those things as much as we do.

    They are realistic, to restate the original point.

    As Unz has pointed out numerous times, maybe it’s not really a matter of crime or bad behavior.

    For example, the feature story here today by Kenn Gividen includes that following chart of mass shootings in 2020:


    Granted, this is just one category of crime, but it shows at least in this case that whites and Latinos are relatively small potatoes compared to blacks. (Yes, the proportions do indicate a higher per capita rate for Latinos.)

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @anon
  46. @Anonymous

    I live in an area that has many hispanics. The store across the street from me(owned by an Eritrean) i see them almost daily.
    I take frequent walks and see them constantly. They are walking dogs or kids on bikes. Often I’m out whenthe school bus drops about a dozen. They’re just kids.
    The house across the street from me has a large Hispanic family. Yeh, they play the music loud on weekends. They are forever grilling out. I. can smell it from my place.
    Theirs a Chinese restaurant down the street that I’ve ate at no fewer than a 1kx. The main cook is Mexican. He’s worked there since 2009. He’s never missed a day. He works all day. The owner, who is Chinese, started closing the restaurant on Mondays because he wouldn’t take a day off. He wanted him to have a day off every week. The guy slaves for 80 hours a week.
    He speaks good English. He’s a good dude.
    I asked him once why? He said it was a privilege to work and he liked making money.
    I’m sorta acquainted with a few others in the neighborhood. I don’t really care if they don’t much care about lawn care.
    The crew that does landscaping here is entirely Hispanic. I think they do a great job. They cleanup after fucking slobs here…that are white.
    I say the Hispanics are good folk.
    They’ll fight too.
    I think they just want to have a life.
    Ron is right.
    Hell, Ron is(probaly) ALWAYS right. let’s lay off folk that are decent.
    I gotta say…some of theseHispanic gals are absolutely fucking hot.

  47. @Jack D

    Cigarettes are safe when consumed “in reasonable quantities” too, and smokers do so voluntarily. I think the main difference is that with cigarettes, you had non-corporate scientists aligned against the companies’ claims. But as your comments show, many non-corporate people are still of the mind that refined sugar is essentially benign. We are still 20-30 years away from societal acceptance that refined sugar is addictive and damages health when consumed in more than minute quantities. Plus, in that time, there is going to be pushback from the corporate-environmentalist lobby, who want plant-based diets so that the earth can be filled to overcapacity with utility-maximizing consumers.

  48. Martin_2 is in error when he states that Pakistani Muslims in the U.K. strongly disapprove of

    criminality in their communities and, by implication, would be likely to shun or expel wrongdoers.

    The reality is that *everyone* in Pakistani Rochdale or Rotherham knows who is dealing heroin

    and/or involved with grooming gang activities but a code of Sicilian omerta keeps mouths very

    tightly shut.

    As with those areas of Belfast and Derry still none-too-secretly controlled by paramilitary gangs,

    (UDA / UVF and the various IRA factions) anyone in those British Pakistani communities bold

    enough, or foolish enough, to speak out publicly is very likely to incur drastic and possibly lethal,

    punishment.

  49. @Negrolphin Pool

    Are there betting markets in the kind of things I’m interested in?

  50. @SunBakedSuburb

    I don’t know why I capitalized it, but “ketchup” is how I spell it. Heinz does too.

    Some would say if you ever in your life put ketchup on a hot dog, you are probably a psychopath.

    If you spell it “catsup,” you probably have bodies buried in your basement, or at least a few teeth missing.

    • Replies: @Mr Mox
  51. Perhaps “Lil Homicide” gang affiliate had been kicking the local black gang’s asses.

  52. @Johann Ricke

    I resent the implication that this is somehow gauche and unrefined.

    It is not just gauche and unrefined, it is barbaric. Might as well watch Jerry Lewis and pretend he’s funny.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
  53. @Johann Ricke

    Don’t tell anybody, but I sometimes like that too, especially with pickle relish.

    Note how I phrased my comments, carefully writing about other people’s opinions and never revealing mine.

    It’s called “plausible deniability,” or just being a hypocrite.

    Bon appétit!

  54. anon[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    We here who complain about immigration from South of the Border would do well to specify that our concerns are more ones of economics and population than race or culture. Ron Unz has repeatedly implored us here to reconsider the racial complaints and indeed insults that we sometimes fall into.

    Pretty sure Ron Unz doesn’t actually live near any concentration of Mexicans and he sure as heck isn’t near any Salvadorians. It doesn’t matter who his gardener or housekeeper may happen to be.

    In any case, Latino people (okay, “Hispanics,” whatever that means) have been a noble segment of our Southwestern population since the beginning of the United States, in fact since long before.

    Don’t get carried away. The population of the US Southwest in 1820 wasn’t all that big. The California settlements didn’t really get started until the 1770’s and they did not grow fast. All that “the border moved over me” is generally spouted by a 2nd or 3rd generation illegal.

    I grew up for many years in a part of the country where there were many Hispanics descended from hundreds of years of Americans.

    Unless you grew up in Santa Fe, NM that is bogus.

    My first friend in Colorado was one.

    The area now called “Colorado” was occupied by Indians well after 1620. The Spanish mounted expeditions into the area of Pike’s Peak to punish Indians for raiding, but there was no settlement there, because it was beyond the line drawn by the King of Spain. Only after Mexico became independent of Spain in the 1820’s was there any further European style settlement, mostly in the San Luis valley.

    “I know a good one” is not a policy. I know good ones, too, I’ve been to more than a few weddings. But I’ve also been to parts of Mexico, and it is a different country with different history. “Santa Muerte” is a thing in parts of Mexico. It doesn’t belong in the US – doesn’t belong anywhere, really, but that is a different issue.

    Salvador, Guatamala, Honduras, etc. are even further away in distance and culture.

    By the way, Mexico has quietly requested aid from US Border Patrol officers to help their border officials on the Guatamalan border. I wonder why they did that?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  55. JimDandy says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Dirty Harry looked down on people for being unrefined? You’re all over the place. You engage in a truly perverse behavior, and you’re lashing out wildly to distract from your own personal defect.

  56. @anon

    I knew that would get a response.

    Whatever, dude. You could at least create a handle so we can know which fucking commenter we are talking to.

    You ignore my whole point: We should stop immigration, because of too many people and not enough jobs for our own people. Too many Americans as it is. That is the winning argument.

    Colorado has long had plenty of “Hispanics” like my good friend and other friends.. You got your information from reading it somewhere, like an internet nerd. I wrote from experience.

    As I say, “whatever.” Your reply doesn’t even merit an argument.

    • Replies: @anon
  57. @Steve Sailer

    I think lots of Euro sites — e.g. Bet 365, William Hill, Ladbrokes, Betfair — let you bet on just about anything. Accessing them is a huge PITA from the states.

    It would be interesting to create an entire state that has betting markets as its foundation, where most important decisions are financially calibrated, a superset of Hans Herman Hoppe’s private-defense-via-insurance idea.

    Critics might say that’s effectively what we already have. But Detroit, Camden, the Show(vin) Trial, fines for 911 etc argue conclusively against it.

  58. @Gary in Gramercy

    A couple hundred Rastas moved to Ethiopia. They stick out like sore thumbs.

    There is a logic to it but I don’t want to go into it here. Suffice it to say it’s a form of identity-shopping.

  59. Finally, does betting make for better analysis?

    Those kind of bets are a good indicator that the pundit is a bullshitter. Scott Adams explains how:

    I’ve also famously predicted that the theory of evolution will be debunked in my lifetime. […]

    …you are probably thinking that my prediction has nearly zero chance of being right. I’ll let you in on an industry secret: You’re correct. You know all of those books on the market that predict various economic bubbles, social upheavals, and disasters of all kinds? Most of those authors don’t believe their predictions are likely to pan out. They’re making calculated bets that in the unlikely event they guessed right, they will become famous. That’s worth a fortune in future speaking gigs and book deals.

    My contrarian prediction about evolution being debunked in my lifetime was the same sort of bet. It’s unlikely that I’ll be right. But if I get lucky, I’ll be the one person who predicted it.

    I think it works like investing: you hear about the bets that pan out, but not the ones that don’t. How many people are really combing back through your old columns to see whether you predicted yesterday what happened today? They just forget, and the columnist is sure not to remind them – unless he was right.

  60. “For example, I might try to predict whether in this summer’s Olympics, the remarkable streak of 9 straight Olympics in which all eight finalists in the men’s 100m dash are substantially sub-Saharan will continue”
    the finalists will be of West African ancestry, or does anyone expect East Africans in that event?

  61. Anonymous[246] • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @El Dato
  62. Beezy is 100% right.

    The cop had to make a split-second decision which resulted in the death of a kid who ought to have

    been at home in bed fast asleep.

    No outpouring of beaner rage so far.

  63. @Ron Unz

    Well, there was this one:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/blm-mob-descends-lori-lightfoots-neighborhood-clash-chicago-police/

    Depending whom you ask though, it may be it was the police who were most violent, but I guess it’s okay when done in defense of a black lesbian mayor.

    And, to your point, (though it’s hard to be sure from the dark and blurry video) the most violent of the protestors may be the black and antifa-adjacent outriders rather than the core Latinos.

  64. Mr Mox says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I put ketchup on hot dogs all the time.

    I also eat them sidewise, not to be mistaken for a homosexual.

    • LOL: El Dato, Buzz Mohawk
  65. @Anonymous

    Yeah, I think Dr. Horsley is in the wrong here. She is a councilwoman, so one of her fellow councilmen addressed her as such. If he had called her Mrs. then she should have corrected him.

    Having said that, if apologies have been offered and accepted, why not just move on?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  66. El Dato says:
    @Sean

    Reminder that what the camera sees is NOT what the officer sees.

    This is all about a conversation between the officer and the “13 year old” (really looks like 16+). Clearly there was a communication breakdown.

    Here is the game matrix for the classroom:

    The “13 year old” has chosen one of the sub-moves of the “gaming” move, but it is not clear to the officer which one. The officer does not want the outcome “OFFICER DOWN” and eventually has a split second to decide which of “eventually submit” and “eventually resist” has been chosen by his game partner. You could say he has to commit early.

    The last thing “13 year old” he did was to not figure that it might be a bad idea to leave doubt in officer’s mind as to his intention and capabilities and to clearly de-escalate (also known as “gaming the situation”). About 5 seconds earlier. like by putting the gun on the ground, slowly etc. As is shown on TV. Do people still watch TV?

    • Replies: @Sean
  67. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    “Problem with tactics”

    Those Counterstrike sessions are really helping.

  68. AndrewR says:
    @Paperback Writer

    The Weeknd does apparently. Or at least he has an “n-word pass” which he’s happy to use.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  69. AndrewR says:
    @ScarletNumber

    If she’s offended by being addressed as “councilwoman” then she shouldn’t be on the council at all. She absolutely needs to resign.

  70. The only glimmer of hope coming from the mass invasion from Latin America is that they’ll finally do the necessary ethni cleansing that Heritage Americans have not been willing or able to do. They’ve done wonders for LA.

  71. Wielgus says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    If Wikipedia is correct, he managed to remain illiterate his entire life and hired others to read the Bible to him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  72. El Dato says:

    Intredasting:

    https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-criticized-for-resisting-foot-pursuit-policy-reform-/10520350/

    Could the tragedy that unfolded in this alley have been avoided? Did the officer follow his training? Those are the questions being debated in the wake of Toledo’s death.

    Could Lil’Angel have been in bed not with a gun? Those are the questions not being debated in the wake of his untimely demise.

    “Had there been a foot pursuit policy, it’s quite likely that Adam Toledo could be alive,” said Sheila Bedi, Clinical Law Professor, Northwestern Pritzker School of Law.

    “Foot Pursuit Policy” sounds like a fetish affliction.

    “It needs to make clear that valuing the sanctity of human life is a key consideration when officers are deciding whether to make a foot pursuit in the heat of the moment and similarly, if officers decide not to engage in a foot pursuit, it needs to be clear that they will not be disciplined,” said Nusrat Choudhury, Legal Director, ACLU Illinois.

    The only question open is: whose life.

    In the most recent report from the independent monitor overseeing Chicago police reforms, the data shows that from March through December of 2020, there were 1,300 foot pursuits.

    Nearly a third of them, 382, resulted in the use of force, and there were 30 cases that resulted in the use of deadly force.

    As with any good consulting and governance effort, these numbers tell me absolutely nothing.

    Six Sigma! SIX SIGMA!

    The police department is looking at best practices from around the country. Superintendent David Brown may not have to look any further than where previously worked in Dallas.

    “His own former department had a fairly restricted foot pursue policy that likely was in place to try to prevent a tragedy like we saw with Adam Toledo,” Bedi said.

    Tragedy now or tragedy later. That is the question.

    In the most recent report on the Consent Decree, the Independent Monitor recommends police adopt a formal policy on foot pursuits.

    That will keep the hobbit in charge and antifa away from burning car dealerships.

    Boston Dynamics Officer SuperSpot having fully internalized his foot pursuit policy:

  73. Polemos says:
    @Anonymous

    If you watch the video, even after DR! Horsley corrects Farmer on how to address her, Farmer, despite making the surprised, open-eyed-male response to her correction, still calls her ‘Councilwoman’ and not Doctor!

    Farmer misspoke the first time and said ‘Councilman’ and begins to correct himself to be gender-affirming by saying ‘Councilwoman’, but doesn’t register what she’s actually saying as she interrupts his self-correction. He then thinks he’s being conciliatory by correcting himself a second time and emphasizes that he’s made the correction with his stress on ‘Councilwoman’ this second time he says it, but clearly he wasn’t paying her attention to what she asked. Almost as though he’s proving her point about his dismissive attitude to her as a person and as someone trying to get through a Council meeting by its rules.

    If you can then stomach it, you can watch as Farmer acknowledges that public comment is an inappropriate time for the Council to ask questions, admits he should ask his questions for Dir. Jackson later, but then proceeds to start asking his questions again, and two more white people have to remind him patiently that he missed the opportunity to ask his questions and this is now a different part of the session where the people comment and the Council receives.

    The uproar over the upset white woman (oh no, she silently mutters fuck!) is a distraction from Farmer’s incompetence and/or obliviousness.

    But she apologized to him, despite him ignoring what she said and doubling down on mistitling her.

  74. p38ace says:

    Our goblin mayor says that the “City had failed him.” No it didn’t. The punk freely made the decision to abandon his loving parents and to renounce God and join a street gang. He deserved to get plugged. The local media says the this “has increased tensions.” No it hasn’t. No one cares.
    AOC is shedding her usual crocodile tears over this. The former bartender bekieves it is normal for children to be out at 2:30 AM.

  75. The only way to save this country is through racial segregation. Racial integration is only going to lead to a race war.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  76. Truth says:

    There were protests; so what?

    • Replies: @anon
  77. Pericles says:
    @unwoke

    Actually, Reinoehl managed to do an interview with Vice before getting killed by a ‘federal fugitive task force’. I regret I have but one life to give for the revolution, etc.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7g8vb/man-linked-to-killing-at-a-portland-protest-says-he-acted-in-self-defense

    The whole thing felt odd to me. I don’t recall the media even complaining that the US Marshals should really have shot the gun out of his hands. Perhaps it was the old adage that you always have to take out the assassin.

  78. Pericles says:

    I tend not to have much interest in predicting elections because if anybody asks me, my first thought is, “I dunno … What does Nate Silver say? He’s not perfect, but he’s better than most at his job.”

    Let me tell you the trick of doing a perfectly reasonable job as a pollster. It’s easy. Throughout the campaign, make blackpilling predictions for the other side or, for that matter, whatever predictions you like. As election approaches, like the day before or something, revise it down to a 50/50 shot and tell your side to get out and vote. The next day you can loftily shrug about the outcome.

  79. El Dato says:

    There should be a “riot ticker” somewhere with Google Map mashup.

    RT is becoming a bit blasé:

    Portland rioters torch Apple store as another police killing sparks wave of destruction (VIDEOS)

    Rioters in Portland, Oregon wreaked havoc on the city’s downtown, smashing windows and setting an Apple store on fire. Though the city has seen nightly riots for nearly a year, the latest came after police shot a man dead.

    Another night, another riot. Protesters assembled on Friday afternoon in Lents Park, where police had shot a man dead hours earlier. The man, who local media identified as “white” to ward off any potential “social unrest,” was carrying a replica firearm when he was killed.

    “Social unrest” soon broke out anyway. Black-clad ‘Antifa’ protesters smashed the windows of banks, restaurants and a church, and spray-painted “no more history” on the shattered windows of the Oregon Historical Society.

    That’s the Horizon Zero Dawn solution: Forget all history!

    An Apple store was torched, and burned for ten minutes before firefighters could get the blaze under control. No injuries were reported by police.

    Do they know that there are microchip shortages?

    Such scenes are commonplace in Portland. Last summer saw 100 straight nights of violence following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, Minnesota, with rioters in Portland focusing their anger on the city’s courthouse and other official buildings, although small businesses also suffered immensely.

    Antifa seems to not be fully under control of demoautocrats.

  80. “I grew up in Chicago and all I got was this T-shirt.”

    You can scroll through thousands of pages of gang banger social media accounts and find dead-relative T-shirts.

    “I miss my dead granny.”
    “Rest in power, Laquan” (you dumb mf’er).

  81. El Dato says:

    US at risk of armed anti-police insurgency within FIVE YEARS, researcher claims

    Temitope Oriola, an expert in armed insurgency in sub-Saharan Africa, has issued a chilling warning that the US may soon witness its own armed insurgency if significant police and criminal justice reform is not enacted quickly.

    Oriola is the joint Editor-in-Chief of the African Security journal and associate professor at the University of Alberta. Based on his years of experience studying armed uprisings across the globe, he now believes that the US is potentially on the brink of disaster.

    This is all a bit confused as the template seems to be majority-black regions and black-on-black violence (although fueled by tribal affiliation)

    Also, tragic dirt is assumed to play a large role:

    Repeated group “radicalized” trauma in the form of police killings and other forms of brutality, combined with disproportionately bad healthcare outcomes for African Americans, in areas such as Covid-19 and cancer survival rates, add further fuel to the fire, in Oriola’s estimation.

    As do perceived slights seen through the lens of Apartheid:

    Oriola cites the words of Nelson Mandela during his trial in a South African court in 1963 as precedent for what may be about to occur in the US in the coming years:

    “I did not plan it in a spirit of recklessness, nor because I have any love of violence. I planned it as a result of a calm and sober assessment of the political situation that had arisen after many years of tyranny, exploitation, and oppression of my people….” Mandela said, prior to his incarceration.

    But Chauvin must go:

    He also suggests that the outcome of the Derek Chauvin trial for the alleged murder of George Floyd will prove crucial to the trajectory of the socio-political situation in the US for years to come.

    I would say continuing immigration and the economic crash will have a much larger effect.

  82. The ugly Lil Bastardo looks like one of the indians who threw spears at Indiana Jones.

    • Agree: Father O'Hara
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  83. anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Walker

    The only way to save this country is through racial segregation. Racial integration is only going to lead to a race war.

    There won’t be Whites to fight in any war. They are being miscegenated out of existence.

  84. The march last night for Lil Homicide was by and large peaceful. If I had to guess I think it was composed of a lot of Latins and a lot of stupid shitforbrains whites. The blacks dont seem to be as heartbroken by the loss as others.

    So thats good,right? Maybe,but these words still come to mind as we observe that theres a lot of mexicans/latins that want that want that victim money:

    “And what rough beast,its hour come round at last,
    Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?”

    Ligutfoot gives a lot of money to blacks;latinos want that money,and they want a latin mayor,big time.

  85. @Sick of Orcs

    He looks like a cannibal,with that Moe haircut.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  86. Sean says:
    @El Dato

    This is all about a conversation between the officer and the “13 year old” (really looks like 16+)

    Or ‘Big Floyd’s 10 year old son. Maybe they ought to issue cops with an elephant gun to deal with these monster kids.

    “Eventually resisting” against a police officer who is a trained shot pointing a gun he is familiar with, wearing body armor and shining a torch in one’s eyes from a distance would be inviting death nine times out of ten. The odds were all in Robocop’s favour.


    The fact is he said “Stop”, which the 13 year old obeyed. Then he said said “Show me your hands”, and as the 13 year old was obeying, supercop barked “Drop it” and instantly shot the 13 year old dead.

    If he thought the gun might still be in the kid’s hand then the kid ought to have been ordered to “drop it” first. What was the idea of ordering the 13 year old to move his hands if the cop thought there might be a gun in one of them<

  87. anon[215] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth


    There were protests; so what?

    So there were not the usual modern black rituals of grief: looting the nearest Target, looting and then burning down the nearest WalMart, looting and burning out neighborhood grocers, burning bookstores, etc.

    That’s what.

    • Replies: @Truth
  88. anon[839] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I knew that would get a response.

    Trolling, eh? Taking your narcissism out for a stroll?

    You ignore my whole point: We should stop immigration, because of too many people and not enough jobs for our own people. Too many Americans as it is. That is the winning argument.

    lol, I guess that’s why it’s been winning since 1986, then?

    Colorado has long had plenty of “Hispanics” like my good friend and other friends..

    “I know a good one” is not even an argument, it is just another emotional bleat.

    It happens that I know of some people who were killed when a drunk Mexican illegal with multiple DUI convictions plowed his car into them broadside at 80+ miles an hour. He was running a red light. Amazingly, he survived. Can I send him to live with you? Maybe be your neighbor? Drive around your block sometimes?

    You got your information from reading it somewhere, like an internet nerd. I wrote from experience.

    lol, whatever, dude. “My friend was a great guy, so we should let as many MS-13 gang members as we can” is pretty retarded. But if that’s all you got, guess you have to go with it. Your feelze don’t care about facts, right?

    As I say, “whatever.” Your reply doesn’t even merit an argument.

    Lucky for you, since you don’t even have an argument, you’re just horking up emotional hairballs.

  89. Kid puts me in mind of “Molly Malone.” A sad song and,tbh, Adam’s is a sad story.

    Down in Little Village, where the Latin Kings pillage
    It was there that I first saw Adam Toledo
    Thru the streets he would run,shooting his gun
    Crying Baby Diablo,Little Homicide

    chorus:Little Homicide, Little Homicide
    Baby Diablo,Little Homicide.

    It was no big thing,that he was a Latin King
    Sure,his neighbors and friends were Latin Kings too
    Thru the streets they would run,shooting their guns
    Crying Baby Diablo,Little Homicide

    (chorus)

    One nite a cop chased him
    In an alley he faced him
    And that was the end of Adam Toledo
    Now they hold demonstrations
    And demand reperations
    Crying Baby Diablo…Little Homicide

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  90. Truth says:
    @anon

    Those are not “usual” those are “exceptions”, ask mom to get you a dictionary for your birthday, you big dummy.

  91. @JimDandy

    and when our new federals shoot someone by fear accident or malice there will be no news reports about the injustice of it all. the victim will be tarred in the media, the federal’s name undisclosed and the matter ended

    quite simply the will be no more police misconduct no matter what the federal police do

    • Agree: JimDandy
  92. Just a note that there is nothing in the Fantasy Intellectual Teams scoring system that punishes losing bets. It simply rewards “thinking in bets,” meaning putting odds where your mouth is. And if you don’t care for that category, there are 7 others.

  93. @Wielgus

    If Wikipedia is correct, he managed to remain illiterate his entire life and hired others to read the Bible to him.

    That’s what Mohammed did, too.

    Just today I read of an official clerk in Brooklyn, with a Jewish name, no less (S-something-stein), who was a functional illiterate. In his defense he claimed that nothing in the law required him to be able to read and write. I believe it was an elected position.

    Anyone recognize this guy? I already forgot the source.

  94. Pontius says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The white kid got the biggest box……typical.

  95. @Paperback Writer

    She wanted them to riot to prove…. what?

    …that if a white policeman shoots anyone other than another white, it leads to riots, and therefore white people should be dismissed from the police force.

  96. @unwoke

    So, Reinoehl died for some people who would not die for him…

    Or rather Reinoehl killed for some people who would not kill for him?

  97. @AndrewR

    Sure, he’s black in the US (or Canada–did I read he got relocated there?), but traditionally the core population of Ethiopia doesn’t consider themselves Bantu. Because they aren’t.

  98. Where’s Ray Lopez, the Alderman that got into a big fight with Lightfoot, during all the rioting there, last year, in June?

    https://www.chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2020/6/21277272/chicago-protests-looting-city-council-police-lopez-lightfoot

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