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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

No Continent for Young Men
by Steve Sailer

September 11, 2019

The death last Friday of Robert Mugabe, the big man of Zimbabwe from 1980 to 2017, is a reminder of the paradox that Africa, the most youthful continent, tends to be ruled by the old.

When Mugabe was finally overthrown two years ago at age 93, he was 75 years older than the median Zimbabwean, who is 18.

Grotesque as he was, Mugabe was not an anomaly: Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.

It’s no continent for young men. …

Increasingly, the young men of Africa are leaving for Europe and North America.

And, as professor Stephen Smith of Duke’s African Studies department notes in his important book The Scramble for Europe: Young Africa on Its Way to the Old Continent, now available in English after causing a sensation in France, there are vastly more who will depart for the First World in the future as the African masses modernize enough to contemplate immigrating.

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. I know who really like young African Men……..

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    • Troll: IHTG, Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    @Tiny Duck


    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality ...
     
    Fried chicken, watermelons and you--a winning combination!
    , @Duke84
    @Tiny Duck

    Fat,ugly white girls we don't want and we certainly don't want your women.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @Neoconned
    @Tiny Duck

    You had a black bf who cheated on you didn't he?

    Most of us here actually aren't bigoted against gays nor do we oppose gay marriage necessarily.

    We just hate seeing you in denial that you like what some old chubby UK fetishist women call "BBC"....

    Seriously we dont care about your orientation. Just stop thumbing your nose at us in bitterness because we white guys wouldn't date or bonk you in high school and you spent those years as a suicidal loner struggling with gay issues and a jungle fever fetish. Seriously bro. Whatever gets you off as the saying goes.....

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Tiny Duck

    So it's karma for slavery colonialism AND it's nothing to worry about?

    I don't know whether your comments are genuine or sarcastic, but this is a pretty good summation of the conventional wisdom surrounding third-world immigration.

    , @SMK
    @Tiny Duck

    Combined with the invasion of Muslims, it means the end of Europe, culturally and civilizationally, and ultimately white genocide and, ineluctably, a war between Muslims and blacks and probably the triumph of Muslims who will kill blacks or convert them to Islam. The governing-classes and ruling elites of the UK and Western Europe are guilt-ridden, masochistic, and suicidal, even more so then their U.S. counterparts. Ergo, they'll do nothing to stop this invasion and conserve Western Civilization. Will European Civilization survive in Eastern Europe and Russia? Who knows?

    Replies: @SMK

    , @anon
    @Tiny Duck

    See this is the same problem some cave-men had. Knocking a woman over the head and dragging her off to a cave to be man-handled does not equal "I like you". Having to knock her out to get her in bed, doesn't equal "I want you". Having to tie her up to keep her around you doesn't mean "I love you".
    History always has so many lessons we can bring forward to the present. Maybe some day we'll actually learn something from the Flintstones.

    , @foulkes
    @Tiny Duck

    Those white girls who like African men should be exported to Africa.

  2. One has to consider that Mugabe and people of his age (probably down to those who would be around 75 now) were educated under a colonial educational system which was certainly far better than the current sytem run by Africans. Europeans at the time were quite impressed by some of these colonially educated Africans (Nyerere, Kenyatta, Kaunda).

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Andy

    One has to consider that Mugabe and people of his age (probably down to those who would be around 75 now) were educated under a colonial educational system which was certainly far better than the current sytem run by Africans. Europeans at the time were quite impressed by some of these colonially educated Africans (Nyerere, Kenyatta, Kaunda).

    About 10% of the population over 15 in Tanganyika was literate in 1960. The European powers began to put boots on the ground in Tropical Africa around about 1895; most places were declared formally sovereign in 1960. So, the midpoint of their time as dependencies of Europe was around 1927, give or take. I've seen some data on school enrollments in Tanganyika in that era. Fewer than 10% of the youngsters of primary school age were enrolled around that time.

    Tropical Africa's had many failures since 1960. One of their successes has been establishing basic literacy as the mode. Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Jack D, @Andy

  3. Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @miss marple

    I am sure nothing, nothing could go wrong at all with smart, but nerdy White guys being frozen out of everything especially including women.

    Its not as if they could generate WMDs out of stuff like fertilizer. Or could organize to call in a foreign savior like some dude in Russia. Oh no -- its always a good bet to figure that the top dog will see "the little men off" ala the British in Malaya in 1941.

    I figure if dweebs and nerds (today's incels are basically yesterday's normal dudes) are headed for extinction they'll gladly see everyone else out with them.

    What other group of people willingly without great violence handed over most of their women to foreigners? And if there is one thing White men are very, very good at it is killing lots of people.

    But hey, women gotta feelz. And feelz uber alles.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    , @Wilkey
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans' large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don't feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it's all costing us.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Mr McKenna, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Stebbing Heuer, @Lot, @Alfa158

    , @Johnny Smoggins
    @miss marple

    I guess the White dweebs and nerds will just have to make do with Asian women while liberated white women can try their luck with African men.

    I wonder who will get the better deal? Either way, Whites as a whole are probably headed for extinction.

    , @Amerimutt Golems
    @miss marple



    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…

     

    People never learn from history.

    WWII can be partly linked to the use of African troops to occupy the Rhineland. This outrage was even mentioned by Hitler in Mein Kampf. He thought it was a French and Jewish plot to debase Germany.

    When the Wehrmacht captured Franco-African troops, this humiliation was avenged.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr-mhKreJqo
    , @Greattit
    @miss marple

    To be fair Belle Delphine is an African in Europe who’s catering to American and European incels. So it’s not all bad news.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Mr. Anon
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males.
     
    Or perhaps just raping, murdering, and cannabalizing them:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45976450

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-usa-murder/italy-arrests-african-migrant-over-murder-of-u-s-woman-ashley-olsen-idUSKCN0US0TR20160114

    https://theliberal.ie/shocking-18-yr-old-italian-woman-is-raped-murdered-and-cannibalized-by-nigerian-migrants/

    https://www.dw.com/en/german-prosecutors-open-murder-investigation-into-eritrean-in-frankfurt/a-49805002

    https://www.dpa-international.com/topic/hundreds-attend-march-german-woman-killed-asylum-seeker-urn%3Anewsml%3Adpa.com%3A20090101%3A190310-99-311895
    , @Sean
    @miss marple

    Stay tuned? The big involuntary celibacy story is about the Joker film and worries it might inspire white "incels" to do something other than go on the internet to complain about being a failed experiment by mother nature.

    , @Clyde
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    Also the dykey-dominant lesbians are stealing the feminine lesbians who can go either way. Stealing them from the heterosexual dating, marrying pool. Theses fem-lesbians are sexual fence sitters (ouch!) and after wasting up to a decade of confused stupidity they settle down with a man.
    , @guest
    @miss marple

    Let's not exaggerate. White women don't like Africans that much. No one does, including Africans. Desperate white males are more likely to go dumpster diving.

    , @J.Ross
    @miss marple

    Learn to code sandwiches.

    , @bored identity
    @miss marple

    bored identity strongly believes that Tiny Marple failed miserably to diversify zir trollfolio.

  4. White women will, always and I do mean always, back the non-White mass immigration over their own men.

    One need only look at the results from the NC district, where a Democrat came close to taking the district that Republicans have held since 1963. All because suburban White women loathe Trump and Republicans for wanting even a bit of a hold on mass Third World Immigration.

    Darwinian incentives make White men and White women eternal and forever enemies. White men want generally equal access to women roughly equal to themselves, or at least they will mostly gladly settle for this, over a Thunderdome fight for one night with a woman they’ll share with others. White women … they want the Thunderdome fight. Its not THEM against Humungous. Lets you and him fight is the eternal playbook for White women, to a degree Asian women, even Latino women to some degree. Not so African women, who remain unique.

    You could argue Hitler got it all wrong — The Master Race is African. Naturally low IQ and aggressiveness. Poor male cooperation, lots of fighting. Low paternal certainty and low paternal investment. All of that means high male sexiness. You can chart male sexiness inversely to the characteristics that make up a stable and prosperous society in isolation: higher male IQ, low inter-personal violence, delayed gratification, greater male cooperation, greater paternal investment. All the latter are innately repulsive to women, all the former male traits innately attractive.

    When technology is just a commodity, who cares if your cooperative men can make ME 109s or Spitfires if Africans can get a boat Taxi service direct to Europe and get free stuff. They’ll see your ME 109s and Spitfires and raise you 7 kids with local women. Plus all their cousins. And siblings. And other kids by other women. And so on.

    Africans figure it might as well be them laying about, impregnating local European women, while the European men work themselves to death to support said Africans and their new women. European establishments being almost entirely feminized (just look at the FT correspondent staff) its a done deal they support Mass Eat-Pray-Love Africans right at home. All the better to crush their natural and eternal enemy, the beta White male.

    The question is if White men will convert to Islam and use that to crush their enemies (I think not, local Muslims feel themselves the new rulers and don’t want sheep turning into fellow wolves). Or will Vlad Putin figure, might as well be him as a bunch of Africans running and ruling Europe. He’d probably have 90% of European men on board with that — if Putin wants to play conqueror/liberator like Charlemagne.

    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @Whiskey

    Everyone in Britain has met multiple women who have brought back an Arab, Turkish or African man from a sex holiday. It's probably the same in all the wealthier European countries. Usually the man waits the necessary time until he cannot be deported (one or two years), and then he abandons the woman, along with any children he has "fathered", to a life on welfare while he seeks further conquests.

  5. @Tiny Duck
    I know who really like young African Men........

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Duke84, @Neoconned, @al gore rhythms, @SMK, @anon, @foulkes

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality …

    Fried chicken, watermelons and you–a winning combination!

  6. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    I am sure nothing, nothing could go wrong at all with smart, but nerdy White guys being frozen out of everything especially including women.

    Its not as if they could generate WMDs out of stuff like fertilizer. Or could organize to call in a foreign savior like some dude in Russia. Oh no — its always a good bet to figure that the top dog will see “the little men off” ala the British in Malaya in 1941.

    I figure if dweebs and nerds (today’s incels are basically yesterday’s normal dudes) are headed for extinction they’ll gladly see everyone else out with them.

    What other group of people willingly without great violence handed over most of their women to foreigners? And if there is one thing White men are very, very good at it is killing lots of people.

    But hey, women gotta feelz. And feelz uber alles.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Whiskey

    They do seem to be starting small, ten here, twenty there, thirteen somewhere else. Do they have the capacity to link up and go for thirty, fifty, or a hundred?

  7. I don’t believe the “heroic adventure” stuff. We already know that globalist NGOs are the ones ferrying the Africans across the Mediterranean. Are we to believe that this is the only leg of the journey in which they’ve had their hand? Would similar organizations not be enticing and funding the invaders within the continent itself?

    While taking another’s prize might be construed as an heroic undertaking, passively receiving the other’s gibs is not so much.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Intelligent Dasein

    No. Paul Collier's Exodus explains this. To emigrate is an investment, and so expensive that those migrating are initially from the well off families in their own countries but the diaspora will lower the cost of emigration, so that those reaching the West are progressively less wealthy. There will also be a lot more of them in the later waves.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Old Palo Altan
    @Intelligent Dasein

    And please God may your intuition that there are only 300 million of them prove correct.

  8. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…

    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans’ large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don’t feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Wilkey


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    I meant to add that if the level of government providing the service had greater control over who received the service, there would be even less illegal immigration. If states and municipalities had the option of denying public education and a lot of other benefits to the children of illegal immigrants (since states pay most of the cost of public education), then states and municipalities would be able to compete against each other. You could live in a state with lower taxes that refused public education to the kids of illegal immigrants, or you could live in a higher tax state that pays for their education.

    But the federal government, for no really good reason, and without any real justification in Constitutional law, forces states to educate the children of illegals, and in any case government passes the bill onto the future.

    The end result is that we take in vast numbers of poorly educated immigrants whose welfare we don't really pay for, since we just put it on the national credit card.

    Replies: @miss marple, @Neoconned, @James N. Kennett

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Wilkey



    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.
     
    In one sense: of course. Because it's not sane to welcome one's own destruction. But in another sense--that of consistently connecting means with ends--it's entirely sane. Because our 'ruling class' has the express intention of wrecking our society and remaking it in its own image, with just that tiny ruling class presiding over the warring masses of the world.

    And the only real obstacle to this would be 'white awareness' because no other group has anywhere near the critical mass to oppose them. So the other express goal is to destroy any possibility of that awareness, which their control of the institutions and the media accomplish quite thoroughly.


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    Small consolation at least that the generations which will have to deal with the bill (note I don't say pay the bill) are the ones most rabidly on-board with the program. "We Hate White People" bleat the Goodwhites. Well, they're gonna learn something about hate before it's all over.

    In another thread we've had a discussion about just how responsible the brainwashed are for their own brainwashing. I consider it an open question. On the one hand, people have been fed the propaganda since birth. On the other, some of us seem to have surmounted it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Wilkey

    "The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane."

    I think you meant to say, Is all so incredibly Jewish.

    , @Stebbing Heuer
    @Wilkey


    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.
     
    Depends what your goals are.

    If the elite plan is to create a situation in which the polity fragments along ethnic/cultural/racial lines, so as to make democratic government dysfunctional and to distract from elite rent extraction from the masses through both the taxation system and also product and factor markets, then ...

    Ever wondered why, ten years after a severe financial crisis since which all of the state's energies have been dedicated, and are still dedicated, to rescuing and restoring the wealth of the elites, the 'left' devotes 100 per cent of its time to advocating for open borders and condemning 'white supremacy'?
    , @Lot
    @Wilkey

    “And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don’t feel like Lagos.”

    Exactly. This is the biggest effect.

    Especially sad for Europe whose ancient cities cannot be replaced by building suburbs the way the USA copes with the issue. Europe is also poorer, older, and weaker than the USA was when we started on our gigantic suburban resettlement in the 1960s.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Alfa158
    @Wilkey

    I don’t think future generations will be paying the bill, because future generations will be the same “New Americans” and “New Europeans” who are running a tab. When real inflation returns and the government can no longer sell bonds because they can’t afford to raise the interest rates above the inflation rate, the debt will simply be written off and damn the consequences.
    Right now many countries are behaving like someone who has no limit on their credit cards and has just been told they have six months to live. Which, I suppose, is pretty much the situation we’re in, just on an extended time scale.

  9. @Wilkey
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans' large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don't feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it's all costing us.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Mr McKenna, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Stebbing Heuer, @Lot, @Alfa158

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.

    I meant to add that if the level of government providing the service had greater control over who received the service, there would be even less illegal immigration. If states and municipalities had the option of denying public education and a lot of other benefits to the children of illegal immigrants (since states pay most of the cost of public education), then states and municipalities would be able to compete against each other. You could live in a state with lower taxes that refused public education to the kids of illegal immigrants, or you could live in a higher tax state that pays for their education.

    But the federal government, for no really good reason, and without any real justification in Constitutional law, forces states to educate the children of illegals, and in any case government passes the bill onto the future.

    The end result is that we take in vast numbers of poorly educated immigrants whose welfare we don’t really pay for, since we just put it on the national credit card.

    • Replies: @miss marple
    @Wilkey

    I agree but what can be done about it other than to create a new country free from such corruption with strict rules against it. Perhaps new patterns of governance could be established and modeled for the fusty old nations to try. Otherwise, it's a fact of life not going away on its own.

    , @Neoconned
    @Wilkey

    When push comes down to shove lots of that sh#t comes from a bunch of random judges saying "it's the law because I say so."

    Those of us who paid attention in govt class recall US Chief Justice John Marshall and his famous case Marbury vs Madison which created the concept of "judicial review " basically out of thin air....

    The entire legal basis for judges reviewing laws is this shaky supra constitutional legal concept. Until Trump takes on the judiciary
    and bans illegal immigrant kids from citizenship and $10k plus of welfare and other benefits per yr including public education.

    The judiciary must be neutered if the immigration issue is to be ever truly fixed....

    , @James N. Kennett
    @Wilkey


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    True. George Soros even advocated that the EU use its (hitherto unused) AAA credit rating to pay for mass Third-World immigration!

    Nobody wants to do a cost-benefit analysis, because of course the benefits (lower wages, higher return on investment) are privatized while the costs are socialized.

    The EU wanted to fine member countries who did not take their "share" of migrants. The proposed sum was €250,000 per migrant not taken. Either this was intended as a fine (which indicates a lack of respect for member countries) or it was a calculation of the net value of a Third-World migrant as a negative quarter of a million Euros!
  10. Steve,

    How do you deal with this stuff day in, day out without becoming angry? You obviously can see what is happening to our civilization, yet you remain somewhat clinically detached. Are you ever tempted to become more politically active like a Pat Buchanan?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @istevefan

    I detected genuine anger in Steve's words when he described what happened to his wife's childhood neighborhood on the west-side of Chicago. In 1968 his father in law moved the family so far out into the exurbs that running water wasn't available yet. Having both your sons brutally beaten by roving gangs of opportunistic black savages will do that to a man.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @istevefan

    While I often get frustrated with Steve for not advocating more concrete steps for whites to take as opposed to just debating, the truth is that Steve is doing God's work here. You can bet that he gets angry. Steve knows better than anyone that our world - our people - is being destroyed.

    But I suspect that he keeps control of himself and soldiers on because the majority of whites are still brainwashed. They need to be gently led - through logic and humor - to our side of the "Great Divide" as Z-Man calls it. That won't happen if Steve lets all of this get to him.

    Regarding politics, Steve has often said that he's best in the role of competent right-hand man, helping guide men who want to be out front. Steve would a Stephen Miller type. But Steve can do much more good here than trying to control some Trump.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    , @Known Fact
    @istevefan

    Reaching your 60s and beyond can lend this air of detachment -- it's the young people who should be angry and afraid. Some of them are, of course, but "climate change" or "racism" is the object of their wrath, not the truly dangerous dysfunction that's coming their way

    , @Peter Frost
    @istevefan

    Steve can do the most good by doing what he's doing now: writing daily columns. It would be a bad move for him to go into politics at a time when his audience is larger than ever.

    I can see Ron going into politics. He's intelligent and well spoken, and he has enough money. Unfortunately he lacks political acumen. He tends to alienate potential friends, often in the vain hope of winning over potential enemies.

    In any case, the big question is not what Steve is doing. It's what each and everyone of us is doing. Before you brush your teeth in the morning, recite this question three times: "What am I doing?"

    Yeah, yeah. I'm familiar with the reasons for doing nothing: fear of losing your job, fear of what friends might think, fear of physical attack by Antifa ... But there are little things you can do, while keeping a low profile:

    - Don't subscribe to a newspaper if you dislike its ideological content.

    - Don't subscribe to cable TV. Yes, many companies will bundle cable TV with Internet and phone services, but there are ways to unbundle.

    - Don't go to a church that supports causes you don't believe in. If you're afraid of standing up in church and denouncing those causes, then just leave.

    - Don't nod your head in agreement when "friends" say things you disagree with. If you don't want to disagree, say nothing. Don't be a passive accomplice.

    - Don't vote for mainstream conservatives (unless your local candidate is solid on the issues you support). In Canada, DON'T VOTE FOR ANDREW SCHEER. He's a nice guy, but that's his big problem. He will be a lame-duck prime minister from his first day of office. VOTE FOR MAXIME BERNIER.

    - Wherever you live, do your homework and exercise your right to vote.

    Replies: @jeppo

  11. @Wilkey
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans' large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don't feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it's all costing us.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Mr McKenna, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Stebbing Heuer, @Lot, @Alfa158

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    In one sense: of course. Because it’s not sane to welcome one’s own destruction. But in another sense–that of consistently connecting means with ends–it’s entirely sane. Because our ‘ruling class’ has the express intention of wrecking our society and remaking it in its own image, with just that tiny ruling class presiding over the warring masses of the world.

    And the only real obstacle to this would be ‘white awareness’ because no other group has anywhere near the critical mass to oppose them. So the other express goal is to destroy any possibility of that awareness, which their control of the institutions and the media accomplish quite thoroughly.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.

    Small consolation at least that the generations which will have to deal with the bill (note I don’t say pay the bill) are the ones most rabidly on-board with the program. “We Hate White People” bleat the Goodwhites. Well, they’re gonna learn something about hate before it’s all over.

    In another thread we’ve had a discussion about just how responsible the brainwashed are for their own brainwashing. I consider it an open question. On the one hand, people have been fed the propaganda since birth. On the other, some of us seem to have surmounted it.

    • Agree: BB753, Charon
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Mr McKenna

    As ever, Nietzsche got it right:

    "Whilst insanity is rare in the individual, it is exceedingly common in the collective".

    , @Rosie
    @Mr McKenna


    On the other, some of us seem to have surmounted it.
     
    I suspect that is the result of very deep personality preferences not under the conscious control of the individual.

    Replies: @anonymous

  12. @Wilkey
    @Wilkey


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    I meant to add that if the level of government providing the service had greater control over who received the service, there would be even less illegal immigration. If states and municipalities had the option of denying public education and a lot of other benefits to the children of illegal immigrants (since states pay most of the cost of public education), then states and municipalities would be able to compete against each other. You could live in a state with lower taxes that refused public education to the kids of illegal immigrants, or you could live in a higher tax state that pays for their education.

    But the federal government, for no really good reason, and without any real justification in Constitutional law, forces states to educate the children of illegals, and in any case government passes the bill onto the future.

    The end result is that we take in vast numbers of poorly educated immigrants whose welfare we don't really pay for, since we just put it on the national credit card.

    Replies: @miss marple, @Neoconned, @James N. Kennett

    I agree but what can be done about it other than to create a new country free from such corruption with strict rules against it. Perhaps new patterns of governance could be established and modeled for the fusty old nations to try. Otherwise, it’s a fact of life not going away on its own.

  13. OT but the issues with Boeing 737 Max and the potential for China to break the Boeing Airbus duopoly and end their largest source of imports from America.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
    @FunThymes

    The Chinese slavishly copied Soviet Russian designs because they could not design a very good airplane in house, and they still really can't.

    The Chinese have serious cultural flaws that mean they will not be able to indigenously design a decent airplane and no one will trust them to faithfully execute a very complicated Western design.

    They can't even build aircraft hardware-AN fittings and NAS bolts and nuts-anyone will buy.

    , @Jack D
    @FunThymes

    Sure they'd love to do this but the Comac C919 (their answer to the 737) is a last generation aircraft that is just coming into production now. Part of the problem with stealing technology is that you always end up stealing the previous generation - Stalin made a huge effort to copy the B-29 rivet for rivet but by the time it was done, prop planes were obsolete and jets were coming in, so it was largely a waste of time and effort.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AnonymousF

  14. ‘African masses modernize enough to contemplate immigrating.’

    It’s emigrating they’d be contemplating, not immigrating. I supposed you can contemplate others immigrating to where you already are, but I don’t think you can ever contemplate doing it yourself. Necessarily, you’re already there.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    @Colin Wright

    Steve know whachu mean Butter Bean.

  15. tends to be ruled by the old

    Say Steve, checked the average age of our legislative branch? How about the rickety old fucks on the Supreme Court benches (hope they’re well padded!)? What about the current pres or his leading Dem opponents for the 2020 election?

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    RBG is 86, Breyer is 81. The Dems know if Trump wins Amy Coney Barrett and someone like her is getting the seat. She is 47.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Reg Cæsar

  16. “The Tide of Color” is impossible to stop.
    They are too big in numbers.
    Travel has become easier, cheaper and quicker.

    The biggest reason : White people all across the West are wayy too cucked to stop anything. They can easily stop all this but don’t have the spine to do so.

    Just imagine, countries that spend billions of dollars on their defense budgets every year and have got naval ships and Aircraft Carriers roaming all across the Mediterranean Sea can’t stop uneducated, unarmed hordes of uncivilized Africans cramped into small dinghies.
    Italy has got 5, Britain 3 and France has got 2 carriers with Eurofighter Typhoons and Rafale jets parked on them besides hundreds of frigates and patrol boats. When are you gonna use that?

    Shame on these people and their governments. With this attitude, you deserve to go extinct.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Argentine American


    Shame on these people and their governments. With this attitude, you deserve to go extinct.
     
    By contrast the white percentage of the US population is rising every year. . .
    , @Jim bob Lassiter
    @Argentine American

    Jodés mucho Che.

    , @Robert Dolan
    @Argentine American

    No....we can't "easily stop" the invasion because western countries are controlled by a hostile elite that is hell bent on the destruction of the west.

  17. @Tiny Duck
    I know who really like young African Men........

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Duke84, @Neoconned, @al gore rhythms, @SMK, @anon, @foulkes

    Fat,ugly white girls we don’t want and we certainly don’t want your women.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Duke84

    You might be on to something Tiny.

  18. Yet. Seventy-five percent of the 30 million Ghanians say they’d emigrate if they could.

    Pew Research polled 30 million pepole? Where did they get the funds? Only 17 million are adults. How did they ask that wide base of the population pyramid under age five?

    Please be more careful in phrasing things like this…

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ghana-population/

    Hell, it’s not a pyramid, it’s a Hershey’s Kiss:


    Germany comes right after Ghana alphabetically:


    Perhaps war is the answer. This is Germany’s in 1950:

    https://images.populationpyramid.net/capture/?selector=%23pyramid-share-container&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.populationpyramid.net/germany/1950/%3Fshare%3Dtrue

    Smith emphasizes that African immigrants aren’t motivated solely by dire need—most of the migrants are from the upper-income ranges and can set aside thousands of dollars to finance a trip.

    A Somali colleague instructed me never to accept a sob story from an African traveler. If he could fly to North America, he was by definition well-off by the standards of his homeland.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Reg Cæsar

    Lufthansa has made an industry out of flying planeloads of Africans and Western Asians from Frankfurt to London.

    Replies: @Lurker

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Reg Cæsar

    Q: What are all the African women going to do,
    with all of the men having left the continent?

    A: Be very happy.

    Replies: @ricpic

    , @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Japanese call their future population distribution "the coffin" - it keeps getting wider all the way up to the shoulders before tapering at the head. In some projection the "shoulder" is going to be like in the age 80-85 group, which will be the largest age cohort. No society has every existed like this before.

    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well. They are going to have to something - you can run a society off of 80 year old workers. There are many tasks where most of them no longer have the physical or mental strength to carry them out.

    Replies: @Sean, @Chrisnonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @J.Ross

    , @Peter Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar

    That is not how statistical polling works. You do not ask all 30 million people individually to find out how they feel and then take an average! The pollster gathers a random representative sample and computes the average of the large sample. The law of large numbers is used to claim that the poll average is very close statistically to the true average. Similarly, when you claim "this room is 72 degree Fahrenheit" you have not measured all five hundred trillion air molecules in the room -- you used the law of large numbers and a thermometer to approximate the true population value!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  19. @Reg Cæsar

    Yet. Seventy-five percent of the 30 million Ghanians say they’d emigrate if they could.
     
    Pew Research polled 30 million pepole? Where did they get the funds? Only 17 million are adults. How did they ask that wide base of the population pyramid under age five?

    Please be more careful in phrasing things like this...

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ghana-population/

    Hell, it's not a pyramid, it's a Hershey's Kiss:


    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/ghana-population-pyramid-2016.gif


    https://i1.wp.com/personalsuccesstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hershey-kiss.jpg


    Germany comes right after Ghana alphabetically:

    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/germany-population-pyramid-2016.gif

    Perhaps war is the answer. This is Germany's in 1950:


    https://images.populationpyramid.net/capture/?selector=%23pyramid-share-container&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.populationpyramid.net/germany/1950/%3Fshare%3Dtrue


    Smith emphasizes that African immigrants aren’t motivated solely by dire need—most of the migrants are from the upper-income ranges and can set aside thousands of dollars to finance a trip.
     
    A Somali colleague instructed me never to accept a sob story from an African traveler. If he could fly to North America, he was by definition well-off by the standards of his homeland.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr McKenna, @Jack D, @Peter Johnson

    Lufthansa has made an industry out of flying planeloads of Africans and Western Asians from Frankfurt to London.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @The Alarmist

    But muh Schengen Area?!

    Replies: @Fredrik

  20. In July a video showing approx 1000 Africans, mostly young/working-age men, streaming off a train in the small German town of Ashausen (pop 3800) appeared — using privacy grounds, this video was quickly deleted (eg by YouTube), but it can still be found (links below) — the scene was eyebrow-raising, to say the least — authorities provided the following explanation:

    Bei den Schwarzafrikanern handelt es sich um Mitarbeiter von Amazon, die regelmäßig am Bahnhof Ashausen eintreffen und anschließend mit einem Shuttlebus zu ihrem Arbeitsplatz gefahren werden.

    They work for Amazon (probably refugees), and get off the train in Ashausen to take a shuttle bus — AMZN does have a Logistikzentrum nearby in Winsen (link).

    Stories about this:

    Video no longer available — Ashausen: 1000 Schwarzafrikaner strömen aus einem Zug

    Video currently available here (same article, different website) — Ashausen: Unzählige Schwarzafrikaner strömen aus einem Zug

    The video can also still be seen on Facebook here –> link

    Below a screenshot from the video (showing one of the Africans approaching the woman making the video; he demands she stop and delete it) — also a map showing Ashausen and Winsen (both are about an hour south of Hamburg).

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @eah

    "Due to the generosity of Amazon, your daily allowance of chocolate people has been increased to 1000."

    Praise be!

  21. @Reg Cæsar

    Yet. Seventy-five percent of the 30 million Ghanians say they’d emigrate if they could.
     
    Pew Research polled 30 million pepole? Where did they get the funds? Only 17 million are adults. How did they ask that wide base of the population pyramid under age five?

    Please be more careful in phrasing things like this...

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ghana-population/

    Hell, it's not a pyramid, it's a Hershey's Kiss:


    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/ghana-population-pyramid-2016.gif


    https://i1.wp.com/personalsuccesstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hershey-kiss.jpg


    Germany comes right after Ghana alphabetically:

    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/germany-population-pyramid-2016.gif

    Perhaps war is the answer. This is Germany's in 1950:


    https://images.populationpyramid.net/capture/?selector=%23pyramid-share-container&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.populationpyramid.net/germany/1950/%3Fshare%3Dtrue


    Smith emphasizes that African immigrants aren’t motivated solely by dire need—most of the migrants are from the upper-income ranges and can set aside thousands of dollars to finance a trip.
     
    A Somali colleague instructed me never to accept a sob story from an African traveler. If he could fly to North America, he was by definition well-off by the standards of his homeland.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr McKenna, @Jack D, @Peter Johnson

    Q: What are all the African women going to do,
    with all of the men having left the continent?

    A: Be very happy.

    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @ricpic
    @Mr McKenna

    Free at last, free at last, RAPE FREE at last.

  22. Increasingly, the young men of Africa are leaving for Europe and North America.

    Did anyone tell them those places are run by old men and women? Now that I think of our own MOG, look at the ages of folks like Charlie Rangel and Maxine Waters.

    Curiosly, members of The Peoples Party tend to outnumber those of Republicans particularly at longer tenures.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members

  23. There are three (at least) Stephen Smiths at Duke, two of them Stephen William Smith.

    https://aaas.duke.edu/people/stephen-smith
    https://bme.duke.edu/faculty/stephen-smith
    https://www.dukehealth.org/find-doctors-physicians/stephen-r-smith-md-mhs

    Ours has a PhD in semiology, which sounds unseemly. And so Parisian.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Reg Cæsar

    But there's only one Stephen Smith that America turns to for truth and wisdom, especially on matters of race and demography

    https://youtu.be/QHAzPY6cvo0

  24. @Wilkey
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans' large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don't feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it's all costing us.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Mr McKenna, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Stebbing Heuer, @Lot, @Alfa158

    “The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.”

    I think you meant to say, Is all so incredibly Jewish.

  25. Europe, who needs it? Even European leaders seem to ask that.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Redneck farmer


    Even European leaders seem to ask that.
     
    Au contraire, mon frère, European Leaders say we need even more Europe. But with increasing numbers of actual Europeans stepping out in yellow vests and attempting to block the "progress" being foisted on them, the leadership has no choice but to import the people who will make their vision of Europe work.
  26. @Wilkey
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans' large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don't feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it's all costing us.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Mr McKenna, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Stebbing Heuer, @Lot, @Alfa158

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Depends what your goals are.

    If the elite plan is to create a situation in which the polity fragments along ethnic/cultural/racial lines, so as to make democratic government dysfunctional and to distract from elite rent extraction from the masses through both the taxation system and also product and factor markets, then …

    Ever wondered why, ten years after a severe financial crisis since which all of the state’s energies have been dedicated, and are still dedicated, to rescuing and restoring the wealth of the elites, the ‘left’ devotes 100 per cent of its time to advocating for open borders and condemning ‘white supremacy’?

  27. anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan
    Steve,

    How do you deal with this stuff day in, day out without becoming angry? You obviously can see what is happening to our civilization, yet you remain somewhat clinically detached. Are you ever tempted to become more politically active like a Pat Buchanan?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Known Fact, @Peter Frost

    I detected genuine anger in Steve’s words when he described what happened to his wife’s childhood neighborhood on the west-side of Chicago. In 1968 his father in law moved the family so far out into the exurbs that running water wasn’t available yet. Having both your sons brutally beaten by roving gangs of opportunistic black savages will do that to a man.

  28. @Tiny Duck
    I know who really like young African Men........

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Duke84, @Neoconned, @al gore rhythms, @SMK, @anon, @foulkes

    You had a black bf who cheated on you didn’t he?

    Most of us here actually aren’t bigoted against gays nor do we oppose gay marriage necessarily.

    We just hate seeing you in denial that you like what some old chubby UK fetishist women call “BBC”….

    Seriously we dont care about your orientation. Just stop thumbing your nose at us in bitterness because we white guys wouldn’t date or bonk you in high school and you spent those years as a suicidal loner struggling with gay issues and a jungle fever fetish. Seriously bro. Whatever gets you off as the saying goes…..

  29. Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.

    I couldn’t help but think of The Donald when I read this.

    ‘Big Man’ of the ‘Big Apple’.

    Maybe we’re not so different after all.

  30. Wasn’t Kurtz initially a late 19th century Social Justice Warrior? Marlowe was a functionary horrified by the results but unable to offer a rebuttal .

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @anonymous

    Yes, but in the end he came around.

  31. As if the the Christian men who scrambled for Africa and brought about both WW1 and WW2 could have ever envisioned their institutes of higher learning being dominated by both the Chinese and Hindu.

  32. Not surprisingly, African young men sometimes run amok, such as the Boko Haram militia in the Sahel that kidnaps schoolgirls.

    They also murder other young men.

    The mass kidnap of the ‘bring back our girls’ young Chibok women was preceded by the massacre of young Chibok men. Lots of people forget this, or aren’t even aware of it, possibly because as Roissy ‘says human eggs are more valuable than human sperm’.

  33. @Wilkey
    @Wilkey


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    I meant to add that if the level of government providing the service had greater control over who received the service, there would be even less illegal immigration. If states and municipalities had the option of denying public education and a lot of other benefits to the children of illegal immigrants (since states pay most of the cost of public education), then states and municipalities would be able to compete against each other. You could live in a state with lower taxes that refused public education to the kids of illegal immigrants, or you could live in a higher tax state that pays for their education.

    But the federal government, for no really good reason, and without any real justification in Constitutional law, forces states to educate the children of illegals, and in any case government passes the bill onto the future.

    The end result is that we take in vast numbers of poorly educated immigrants whose welfare we don't really pay for, since we just put it on the national credit card.

    Replies: @miss marple, @Neoconned, @James N. Kennett

    When push comes down to shove lots of that sh#t comes from a bunch of random judges saying “it’s the law because I say so.”

    Those of us who paid attention in govt class recall US Chief Justice John Marshall and his famous case Marbury vs Madison which created the concept of “judicial review ” basically out of thin air….

    The entire legal basis for judges reviewing laws is this shaky supra constitutional legal concept. Until Trump takes on the judiciary
    and bans illegal immigrant kids from citizenship and $10k plus of welfare and other benefits per yr including public education.

    The judiciary must be neutered if the immigration issue is to be ever truly fixed….

  34. anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump , Biden and Warren are easily old enough to remember all white college football national championship teams and the Smothers Brothers being too controversial for television. Donald Trump and Joe Biden were as likely to have heard of the Velvet Underground as they were to have willingly volunteered for combat duty in Vietnam.

  35. @FunThymes
    https://youtu.be/XjbYloKJX7c

    OT but the issues with Boeing 737 Max and the potential for China to break the Boeing Airbus duopoly and end their largest source of imports from America.

    Replies: @donvonburg, @Jack D

    The Chinese slavishly copied Soviet Russian designs because they could not design a very good airplane in house, and they still really can’t.

    The Chinese have serious cultural flaws that mean they will not be able to indigenously design a decent airplane and no one will trust them to faithfully execute a very complicated Western design.

    They can’t even build aircraft hardware-AN fittings and NAS bolts and nuts-anyone will buy.

  36. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    I guess the White dweebs and nerds will just have to make do with Asian women while liberated white women can try their luck with African men.

    I wonder who will get the better deal? Either way, Whites as a whole are probably headed for extinction.

  37. @Argentine American
    "The Tide of Color" is impossible to stop.
    They are too big in numbers.
    Travel has become easier, cheaper and quicker.

    The biggest reason : White people all across the West are wayy too cucked to stop anything. They can easily stop all this but don't have the spine to do so.

    Just imagine, countries that spend billions of dollars on their defense budgets every year and have got naval ships and Aircraft Carriers roaming all across the Mediterranean Sea can't stop uneducated, unarmed hordes of uncivilized Africans cramped into small dinghies.
    Italy has got 5, Britain 3 and France has got 2 carriers with Eurofighter Typhoons and Rafale jets parked on them besides hundreds of frigates and patrol boats. When are you gonna use that?

    Shame on these people and their governments. With this attitude, you deserve to go extinct.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jim bob Lassiter, @Robert Dolan

    Shame on these people and their governments. With this attitude, you deserve to go extinct.

    By contrast the white percentage of the US population is rising every year. . .

  38. @The Alarmist
    @Reg Cæsar

    Lufthansa has made an industry out of flying planeloads of Africans and Western Asians from Frankfurt to London.

    Replies: @Lurker

    But muh Schengen Area?!

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    @Lurker

    UK isn't in Schengen and never were.

    Anyone Asian or African boarding a flight to London or New York has a valid visa from the receiving country. Chances are these people who apparently are onboard these Lufthansa flights are in fact English(according to the vast majority)

  39. I think it’s time for utopian experiments like were done in the US in the 19th century. The 20th century ones have mostly failed being either religious cults or hippie communes.

  40. A great article on Rhodesia / Zimbabwe, and all of post-colonial Africa is this by Theodore Dalrymple: https://www.city-journal.org/html/after-empire-12420.html

    It makes this point about the huge social obligations that Africans have. If one member of the family rises to professional prominence, he would still be penniless because his family would start draining money from him. The white doctor and black doctor could live in the same colonial style house, but the African-owned house would rapidly turn into a slum filled with his extended family.

    I would say IQ has a big influence too, since some high IQ Asian countries have high levels of social obligation, and still do well. But those people do even better in more individualistic white countries. You can see social obligation making a difference in more ‘backward’ European countries, with lower economic development and more corruption in the Southern and Eastern parts of Europe… Some in Western Europe idealise the greater family warmth and traditionalism in these countries, but it might come at a cost.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @TelfoedJohn


    If one member of the family rises to professional prominence, he would still be penniless because his family would start draining money from him. The white doctor and black doctor could live in the same colonial style house, but the African-owned house would rapidly turn into a slum filled with his extended family.
     
    This extends to the village as well. It is _very_ dangerous to be seen as prosperous in Africa. The children learn at a young age--everything of value must be hidden.

    That is why "black capitalism" has been dead in the water in Africa. Without social trust "progress" is impossible--forever.

    Coming to a country near you...soon.....

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @PV van der Byl
    @TelfoedJohn

    That is one of Dalrymple's very best. He traveled throughout Africa and lived and worked in both Rhodesia and South Africa. He knew what he was writing about.

  41. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:

    It has been conjectured that the cold, unforgiving winters of Europe – and even more so in the Ice Age – moulded the European character in terms of genetic selection for the personality traits of cooperativeness, amiability, conscientiousness etc – all psychologically necessary for survival in that harsh environment

    By contrast, sub Saharan Africa never had a climate in which it was necessary to strive for the right to eat and the right to shelter. Hence, the evolutionary pressures were markedly different. Rather than cooperation a certain ruthlessness and aggressivity, belligerence etc were traits which led to reproductive success – rivals had to be destroyed and defeated in order allow kin selection to thrive. Likely this set up its own positive feed back loop. This explains the cult of the old ‘big man’ in Africa – the most ruthless and despotic of the ruthless, the most merciless and bloodthirsty. The Oedipus Complex on steroids as far as young rivals are concerned.
    Likely, also, these selected for character traits explain Afro American social pathologies – from a white point of view – as witnessed in contemporary America.

  42. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…

    People never learn from history.

    WWII can be partly linked to the use of African troops to occupy the Rhineland. This outrage was even mentioned by Hitler in Mein Kampf. He thought it was a French and Jewish plot to debase Germany.

    When the Wehrmacht captured Franco-African troops, this humiliation was avenged.

  43. @Mr McKenna
    @Wilkey



    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.
     
    In one sense: of course. Because it's not sane to welcome one's own destruction. But in another sense--that of consistently connecting means with ends--it's entirely sane. Because our 'ruling class' has the express intention of wrecking our society and remaking it in its own image, with just that tiny ruling class presiding over the warring masses of the world.

    And the only real obstacle to this would be 'white awareness' because no other group has anywhere near the critical mass to oppose them. So the other express goal is to destroy any possibility of that awareness, which their control of the institutions and the media accomplish quite thoroughly.


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    Small consolation at least that the generations which will have to deal with the bill (note I don't say pay the bill) are the ones most rabidly on-board with the program. "We Hate White People" bleat the Goodwhites. Well, they're gonna learn something about hate before it's all over.

    In another thread we've had a discussion about just how responsible the brainwashed are for their own brainwashing. I consider it an open question. On the one hand, people have been fed the propaganda since birth. On the other, some of us seem to have surmounted it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie

    As ever, Nietzsche got it right:

    “Whilst insanity is rare in the individual, it is exceedingly common in the collective”.

  44. @istevefan
    Steve,

    How do you deal with this stuff day in, day out without becoming angry? You obviously can see what is happening to our civilization, yet you remain somewhat clinically detached. Are you ever tempted to become more politically active like a Pat Buchanan?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Known Fact, @Peter Frost

    While I often get frustrated with Steve for not advocating more concrete steps for whites to take as opposed to just debating, the truth is that Steve is doing God’s work here. You can bet that he gets angry. Steve knows better than anyone that our world – our people – is being destroyed.

    But I suspect that he keeps control of himself and soldiers on because the majority of whites are still brainwashed. They need to be gently led – through logic and humor – to our side of the “Great Divide” as Z-Man calls it. That won’t happen if Steve lets all of this get to him.

    Regarding politics, Steve has often said that he’s best in the role of competent right-hand man, helping guide men who want to be out front. Steve would a Stephen Miller type. But Steve can do much more good here than trying to control some Trump.

    • Agree: James N. Kennett
    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Steve and Ron are fantastic for red pilling normies who aren't ready for sterner stuff yet. But his humour and intelligence can win over many Whites. I see many new names of people posting here and we know the traffic of Unz is growing.

    But if you, or anyone else, is ready to start talking strategy I recommend The Daily Stormer

    Replies: @James N. Kennett, @J.Ross

  45. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    To be fair Belle Delphine is an African in Europe who’s catering to American and European incels. So it’s not all bad news.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Greattit

    Belle-Delphine looks pretty white. Are there many Kirschners in Africa?

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/belle-delphine

  46. 9/11 was completely avoidable

    In 1965…a National Origins Immigration Policy should have been passed that excluded all Muslims…..

  47. What about an article on the 9/11 memorializing that “extends and evolves”? A few years of incessant rudeness, blatant disregard for law and morality out of New Yorkers and now we’re to have a day of sacred meditations on how 3k New Yorkers lost their lives nearly 20 years ago. I’m not suggesting those people don’t matter but rather protesting the complete lack of perspective. Countries such as France, England, Spain and Germany have endured numerous terrorist attacks, so many they couldn’t memorialize them all nor select some to remember while ignoring others. Then there’s the issue of the passage of time. Kids who were born in 2001 have graduated high school. Furthermore, I don’t believe Pearl Harbor was being focused on to this extent as late as the early 60s. Eighteen years of repetition of strategies and fear mongering propaganda keep the US trapped in an infinite loop. And all we have to show for it is trillion dollar debt, a rising body count and a surveillance state that probably isn’t going away ever. 9/11 should be a speck of the distant past in our collective rearview mirror not an anchoring point and a rallying cry. Why are we stuck in that moment?

    • Replies: @Charon
    @miss marple

    Why are we stuck in that moment? Because it serves the ruling class.

    , @Known Fact
    @miss marple

    Believe all that if you must -- but admit that 9/11 ceremonies did give us Hillary's most famous pratfall

  48. @Oleaginous Outrager

    tends to be ruled by the old
     
    Say Steve, checked the average age of our legislative branch? How about the rickety old fucks on the Supreme Court benches (hope they're well padded!)? What about the current pres or his leading Dem opponents for the 2020 election?

    Replies: @Bugg

    RBG is 86, Breyer is 81. The Dems know if Trump wins Amy Coney Barrett and someone like her is getting the seat. She is 47.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Bugg

    Only one of the reasons that Trump will not win.

    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    @Bugg

    Barrett is an awful pick, irrespective of her age.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Bugg


    RBG is 86,
     
    ...and still going to the gym.
  49. @Intelligent Dasein
    I don't believe the "heroic adventure" stuff. We already know that globalist NGOs are the ones ferrying the Africans across the Mediterranean. Are we to believe that this is the only leg of the journey in which they've had their hand? Would similar organizations not be enticing and funding the invaders within the continent itself?

    While taking another's prize might be construed as an heroic undertaking, passively receiving the other's gibs is not so much.

    Replies: @Sean, @Old Palo Altan

    No. Paul Collier’s Exodus explains this. To emigrate is an investment, and so expensive that those migrating are initially from the well off families in their own countries but the diaspora will lower the cost of emigration, so that those reaching the West are progressively less wealthy. There will also be a lot more of them in the later waves.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Sean

    Gee, well if Paul Collier says so...

  50. These projections are based on perhaps logical, but not a necessary supposition that other races will continue to treat Africans as relatively desirable human beings. It may be so, but not necessarily. Do Tasmanians exist anymore? Do most non-sapiens early humans exist anymore? Will developed countries & peoples continue to subsidize essentially parasitic & harmful others?

    No one knows the future ….

  51. @FunThymes
    https://youtu.be/XjbYloKJX7c

    OT but the issues with Boeing 737 Max and the potential for China to break the Boeing Airbus duopoly and end their largest source of imports from America.

    Replies: @donvonburg, @Jack D

    Sure they’d love to do this but the Comac C919 (their answer to the 737) is a last generation aircraft that is just coming into production now. Part of the problem with stealing technology is that you always end up stealing the previous generation – Stalin made a huge effort to copy the B-29 rivet for rivet but by the time it was done, prop planes were obsolete and jets were coming in, so it was largely a waste of time and effort.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    All subsequent Tupolev bombers show their B-29 heritage clearly.

    , @AnonymousF
    @Jack D

    Russia would do well to capitalize on exporting retro stuff-vacuum tubes,radial engine trainers and bush planes, etc-for which there is actually some demand. They don’t seem able to not screw that up though.

    Replies: @Jack D

  52. @Mr McKenna
    @Wilkey



    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.
     
    In one sense: of course. Because it's not sane to welcome one's own destruction. But in another sense--that of consistently connecting means with ends--it's entirely sane. Because our 'ruling class' has the express intention of wrecking our society and remaking it in its own image, with just that tiny ruling class presiding over the warring masses of the world.

    And the only real obstacle to this would be 'white awareness' because no other group has anywhere near the critical mass to oppose them. So the other express goal is to destroy any possibility of that awareness, which their control of the institutions and the media accomplish quite thoroughly.


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    Small consolation at least that the generations which will have to deal with the bill (note I don't say pay the bill) are the ones most rabidly on-board with the program. "We Hate White People" bleat the Goodwhites. Well, they're gonna learn something about hate before it's all over.

    In another thread we've had a discussion about just how responsible the brainwashed are for their own brainwashing. I consider it an open question. On the one hand, people have been fed the propaganda since birth. On the other, some of us seem to have surmounted it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie

    On the other, some of us seem to have surmounted it.

    I suspect that is the result of very deep personality preferences not under the conscious control of the individual.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Rosie

    Me personally I am just autistic.

  53. @Reg Cæsar

    Yet. Seventy-five percent of the 30 million Ghanians say they’d emigrate if they could.
     
    Pew Research polled 30 million pepole? Where did they get the funds? Only 17 million are adults. How did they ask that wide base of the population pyramid under age five?

    Please be more careful in phrasing things like this...

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ghana-population/

    Hell, it's not a pyramid, it's a Hershey's Kiss:


    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/ghana-population-pyramid-2016.gif


    https://i1.wp.com/personalsuccesstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hershey-kiss.jpg


    Germany comes right after Ghana alphabetically:

    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/germany-population-pyramid-2016.gif

    Perhaps war is the answer. This is Germany's in 1950:


    https://images.populationpyramid.net/capture/?selector=%23pyramid-share-container&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.populationpyramid.net/germany/1950/%3Fshare%3Dtrue


    Smith emphasizes that African immigrants aren’t motivated solely by dire need—most of the migrants are from the upper-income ranges and can set aside thousands of dollars to finance a trip.
     
    A Somali colleague instructed me never to accept a sob story from an African traveler. If he could fly to North America, he was by definition well-off by the standards of his homeland.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr McKenna, @Jack D, @Peter Johnson

    The Japanese call their future population distribution “the coffin” – it keeps getting wider all the way up to the shoulders before tapering at the head. In some projection the “shoulder” is going to be like in the age 80-85 group, which will be the largest age cohort. No society has every existed like this before.

    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well. They are going to have to something – you can run a society off of 80 year old workers. There are many tasks where most of them no longer have the physical or mental strength to carry them out.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Jack D


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2015/04/01/this-is-no-april-fool-japan-is-beating-the-pants-off-the-united-states/#8299ab25b882
    Take, for instance, the official story that Japan’s national debt represents a world-beating 226 percent of gross domestic product, higher even than that of long-time leader Zimbabwe. Is this figure real? We have no way of independently checking it. All we have the Finance Ministry's say-so.The Finance Ministry, moreover, has a long-term record of special disingenuousness in misleading the West. Frankly if you believe Japan's government finances are in this sort of shape, there is a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to buy. In reality, as the French economist Thomas Piketty has pointed out, the official figure has to have been absurdly pumped up by accounting trickery. (If Japan really had incurred anything like Zimbabwe-style debt, it would long ago have suffered Zimbabwe-like inflation. Instead Japan, in a pattern very similar to Switzerland, has enjoyed rock-solid price stability for generations.)
     
    When the Japanese appear to be committing suicide: watch out!


    https://youtu.be/evHCgsAJRj8?t=45

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @J.Ross

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack D

    I'm going to go Intelligent Dasein on this population prediction.

    Although the changing demographics in Japan are real, I've recently started hearing that I should "escape" back to the USA while I can from an educated acquaintance. This is a qualitative shift.

    If you want to change opinion in Japan, you start from the top. So I see this dystopianism as the possible vanguard of a change in the way people approach population questions.
    As represented by Abe's push to increase foreign workers, you can see that the "common knowledge" of "population crash=more immigrants needed" has existed at the top. It is circulating down.

    Japan has been bringing in SE Asians and islanders to fill in population gaps for a long time. Alex Kerr talks about Filipinos brides being imported for bachelor farmers in the Iya Valley in his book Dogs and Demons. And places in the countryside already have bilingual street signs in Japanese and Portuguese because of the Brazilian factory workers. These are case studies. Did they solve the problems they were supposed to or did they just create populations of low-contribution ethnic minorities? You know the answer.

    The point is that some of the same trends pushing elites to import immigrants in the US apply to Japan. AI and robotics could be powerful tools to help deal with labor shortages and would have the added benefit of not being net drains on health and pension systems, not to mention food and fuel scarcity issues. In the country that fetishizes robots and has had high speed trains for 50 years, where is the "man on the moon" program to deal with labor through technology? Is this a failure of confidence? Of vision? Or is it a failure of interest born of the same growth and consumption addiction as the USA?

    The modern world is fundamentally unsustainable. There are only three solutions: (1) fall backwards into agrarianism with lower standard of living, (2) move forward into a future of more advanced technologies with arguably less low standard of living, (3) kick the can down the road via migration and consumption.

    Japan has weathered several population booms and busts in its history, but it has recovered because of human capital and culture. If it comes out on the other side of this bust with permanently altered ethnicity, it is finished.

    Kansai International airport (KIX) hasn't lost a bag in like 25 years and the high speed train system has run for decades without a catastrophic accident. These are systems run by workers from the lower strata of Japan's society. They could be run by robots and AI, but they couldn't be run by ethnic minorities. You can't run a society on 80 year olds, but you can't run Japan on non-Japanese either.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Bullshi$

    Japan doesn't need Vietnamese workers. A racially homogeneous society can overcome almost any obstacle - except permanent invasion (and, yes, immigration is invasion) of another people. First off, Japan's per capita GDP growth is just fine, not that we should worship at the alter of the great god Economy, but it's a point that people should understand.

    Second, if some older Japanese don't get as much care as we in the West would like, too bad. Grandpa not getting a personal nurse isn't worth destroying your society by bringing in foreigners. Also, maybe it'll show young Japanese the value of having family around you.

    Speaking of family, yes, Japan has a very low birthrate. So what? Everything is fixable - if you don't bring in foreigners to destroy your society. (Israel gets this, Jack, as you are well aware.) Let nature take its course. People who don't want children will slowly leave the gene pool. Those that do want children will have children who by their nature will be more inclined to have children. In addition, those children will have less competition for housing and job and thus will be able to afford . . . more children. The birthrate will rebound.

    Unless, of course, you follow the Jack D recommendation - interestingly, rejected by Israel and not recommended by Israel by Jack D - of inviting foreigner workers into your country. But, but, but, Jack says, I only mean as temporary workers, just like the Turks in Germany or Mexicans working the fields in California. Oh wait, he says, nevermind.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Funny, a while before Jack D and the fraudulent Jake Adelstein and the media-favored economists insisted that Japan simply needs foreigners, the stories out of Japan were about stagnation and lack of opportunities for young Japanese people.

  54. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

  55. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    Stay tuned? The big involuntary celibacy story is about the Joker film and worries it might inspire white “incels” to do something other than go on the internet to complain about being a failed experiment by mother nature.

  56. Google:

    #XenophobiaSouthAfrica

    and

    “Nigeria South Africa shoprite”

    Get your sick bag ready.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Jane Plain


    Get your sick bag ready.
     
    Nah. It's just a good old pogrom, though messily continent-wide. Apparently "racism" is not exclusively a non-jewish-white on black-and-jews thing? Who would have thunk it.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

  57. Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.

    My sense is that where women have no political power, young men have no political power. Women’s (socialist) influence tends to enhance the wellbeing and prospects of young men.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    , @Sean
    @Rosie


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/14/usa.julianborger

    Up to 1,000 teenage boys have been separated from their parents and thrown out of their communities by a polygamous sect to make more young women available for older men, Utah officials claim.
    Many of these "Lost Boys", some as young as 13, have simply been dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah, by the leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.
     
    According to Chagnon, the Yanomami went on women stealing expeditions.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Rosie

    , @Anonymous
    @Rosie

    It's the exact opposite.

    The positive feedback centralization of social policy is an expansion of the feminine principle. It is driven first by feminized men, such as kings who are shielded by "champions" such as "The King's Champion" from single combat and, ultimately, by the police. Then, these feminized men use their high social status as faux "alphas" to sexually appeal to the baser instincts of women. They give women power over the men in their lives -- men who are powerless to challenge the high status men to single combat. All that the baser instincts of women see are cowardly betas putting up with abuse from everyone, including the women, who then treat them as children at best. This expands the feminine principle of hearth and home to the public square, with the result that social policy is increasingly centralized and feminized.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @anonymous
    @Rosie

    Good god no. Women prefer the big man system: it is actually the result of their power. Same with polygamy.

    Replies: @Rosie

  58. @istevefan
    Steve,

    How do you deal with this stuff day in, day out without becoming angry? You obviously can see what is happening to our civilization, yet you remain somewhat clinically detached. Are you ever tempted to become more politically active like a Pat Buchanan?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Known Fact, @Peter Frost

    Reaching your 60s and beyond can lend this air of detachment — it’s the young people who should be angry and afraid. Some of them are, of course, but “climate change” or “racism” is the object of their wrath, not the truly dangerous dysfunction that’s coming their way

  59. @Sean
    @Intelligent Dasein

    No. Paul Collier's Exodus explains this. To emigrate is an investment, and so expensive that those migrating are initially from the well off families in their own countries but the diaspora will lower the cost of emigration, so that those reaching the West are progressively less wealthy. There will also be a lot more of them in the later waves.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Gee, well if Paul Collier says so…

  60. @Reg Cæsar
    There are three (at least) Stephen Smiths at Duke, two of them Stephen William Smith.

    https://aaas.duke.edu/people/stephen-smith
    https://bme.duke.edu/faculty/stephen-smith
    https://www.dukehealth.org/find-doctors-physicians/stephen-r-smith-md-mhs

    Ours has a PhD in semiology, which sounds unseemly. And so Parisian.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    But there’s only one Stephen Smith that America turns to for truth and wisdom, especially on matters of race and demography

  61. My sense is that where women have no political power, young men have no political power.

    Your sense? Would that be your feminine intuition? Your sense usually seems to be wrong.

    A lot of young German men felt pretty powerless when old woman Angela Merkel opened the immigrant tap. Of all the left-leaning, ostensibly compassionate woman running for President of the United States this year, none of them would turn off the immigration tap which is disenfranchising young men.

  62. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Japanese call their future population distribution "the coffin" - it keeps getting wider all the way up to the shoulders before tapering at the head. In some projection the "shoulder" is going to be like in the age 80-85 group, which will be the largest age cohort. No society has every existed like this before.

    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well. They are going to have to something - you can run a society off of 80 year old workers. There are many tasks where most of them no longer have the physical or mental strength to carry them out.

    Replies: @Sean, @Chrisnonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @J.Ross

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2015/04/01/this-is-no-april-fool-japan-is-beating-the-pants-off-the-united-states/#8299ab25b882
    Take, for instance, the official story that Japan’s national debt represents a world-beating 226 percent of gross domestic product, higher even than that of long-time leader Zimbabwe. Is this figure real? We have no way of independently checking it. All we have the Finance Ministry’s say-so.The Finance Ministry, moreover, has a long-term record of special disingenuousness in misleading the West. Frankly if you believe Japan’s government finances are in this sort of shape, there is a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to buy. In reality, as the French economist Thomas Piketty has pointed out, the official figure has to have been absurdly pumped up by accounting trickery. (If Japan really had incurred anything like Zimbabwe-style debt, it would long ago have suffered Zimbabwe-like inflation. Instead Japan, in a pattern very similar to Switzerland, has enjoyed rock-solid price stability for generations.)

    When the Japanese appear to be committing suicide: watch out!

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Sean

    There's no doubt that Japan is a prosperous society but it's also an old society. The example that the author gives that the Japanese increasingly drive Lexuses and not Toyota subcompacts as in the past and travel abroad more is very telling. Old people drive luxury cars and have $ for foreign vacations.

    Japan is not a basket case but it has lost of lot of its edge in many fields. Why is Japan an also ran in the cell phone market? The TV market? The laptop market? Miniature electronics used to be their thing. How did they let the S. Koreans get ahead of them? Sony used to be the king of clever personal electronics. They had no foreign competitors for the Walkman. How did Apple outflank them? How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops? Japan should have been running the huge electronics assembly plants in China, not the Taiwanese. How did the Chinese end up buying out the Japanese LCD manufacturers? Japan was making transistor radios when the Koreans were still getting around in ox carts. This would be like the Mexicans getting ahead of the US in space technology or a Brazilian car company buying Ford.

    Replies: @Lot, @Sean, @Anonymous, @bigdicknick, @Reg Cæsar

    , @El Dato
    @Sean

    Sadly, a Zero is a fighter plane made of balsa and an internal combustion engine and the Murrican Aircraft Carrier is ready for flight deck impacts (going so far as to have fuel not in pipes but in movable fuel tanks; the Japanese had the former, bad idea)

    Side-loading thought: Can you imagine Germans making a Zeichentrickfilm about the enhanced life story of Werner von Braun, his dreams of space flight and his glorious A4? Self-immolation in front of the Reichstag would probably be demanded -- and granted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhHoCnRg1Yw

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    , @Anonymous
    @Sean

    Fingleton is an idiot, an economic illiterate who can't read or speak Japanese despite living there for 40 years.

    Japan's debt is in yen, a currency it controls, and the debt is financed heavily by domestic savings. It has high levels of production hence trade surpluses.

    A lot of Zim's debt is denominated in foreign currency, which it does not control. Meanwhile, production has declined, leaving lower domestic savings to finance debt, and it has trade deficits. Production has declined, money supply has increased, and Zim currency has flowed out from trade deficits and declined relative to foreign currency, thus there's been inflation. This is nothing like Japan's case.

    , @J.Ross
    @Sean

    >Fingleton depending on Piketty
    If only there were a way to include Malcolm Gladwell, Black Science Man, and Theranos Girl in a Voltron of pseudo-intelligent hackery.

    Replies: @Sean

  63. 9/11 was used to justify a massive increase in the scale of MUSLIM LEGAL IMMIGRANTS into America….

    9/11 was used to justify the demographic elimination of WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MALES……Just ask General Casey….after the Fort Hood massacre…….

    Think about it….

  64. @Tiny Duck
    I know who really like young African Men........

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Duke84, @Neoconned, @al gore rhythms, @SMK, @anon, @foulkes

    So it’s karma for slavery colonialism AND it’s nothing to worry about?

    I don’t know whether your comments are genuine or sarcastic, but this is a pretty good summation of the conventional wisdom surrounding third-world immigration.

  65. Angry Africans Stuck In Mexico?

    Sounds like a sweet and peaceful Jimmy Buffett song! Get those angry Africans some cerveza before you deport them all back to Africa. Every damn one!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Charles Pewitt

    You could probably deport them to Europe.

    Africans on offer by Mexico? Anti-racist EU double combo if you accept!

  66. anonymous[380] • Disclaimer says:

    Yesterday on Rod Dreher’s blog, Caldwell Explains Orban.

    Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban in 2015:

    I think that the phenomenon I’ve just described is no more or less than identity crisis. This seems to be bad news, but it is the first good identity crisis I’ve ever seen. Earlier we have talked about identity crises among ourselves: the Christian identity crisis, or the national identity crisis. But now, Ladies and Gentlemen, we are witnessing the liberal identity crisis. Viewed from the right perspective, the whole issue of asylum and mass migration, the whole problem of economic migration is nothing more than the identity crisis of liberalism. I’ll try to broadly summarize what it consists of. People in general – not only Europeans, but definitely Europeans – want to see themselves as good; but people can define “good” in a wide variety of ways. Liberals also want to see themselves as good. They also have an idea of ​​what it means to be a good person. And liberals can only live with themselves if they see themselves as good people. However, the liberal notion of what is “good”, as I described earlier, only exists at the level of phenomena: freedom of movement, universal human rights, and so on. Now this is producing disastrous consequences. But the particular quality of liberals is that while they want to be good people, they do not want to see their levels of welfare spending and standards of living falling; and so a crisis develops. This is the truly great challenge facing liberalism today: how to see themselves as good people according to their own principles, and at the same time how to protect the standard of living which they have achieved so far.

    I am convinced that it is no longer possible in Europe to both see ourselves as good in the liberal sense and to live in prosperity. I might say that the most dangerous combination known in history is to be both rich and weak. There is no combination more dangerous than this. It is only a matter of time before someone comes along, notices your weakness, and takes what you have. This will definitely happen if you are unable to defend yourself. The liberal philosophy is a result of a Europe which is weak and which also wants to protect its wealth; but if Europe is weak, it cannot protect this wealth.

    [MORE]

    [snip]

    Finally, the fourth thing, which I think follows on from all this. Do not misunderstand me when I put it like this: everyday patriotism. This is not something of an intellectual nature, but a vital instinct, a daily routine: going into a shop and buying Hungarian products; when I want to employ someone, employing a Hungarian. It will not work if we cannot make this an everyday instinct, and if it simply remains a spiritual need for our national-minded intellectuals on the right. It will not work without you, of course, because for something to become everyday, it must be formulated to a high degree, something which can be expressed, and which will give us, its representatives, dignity, strength and self-confidence. But then it must be implemented on a daily basis, as I said: in workplaces, in shops, in conversations, and so on. I do not know in how many areas we have retreated; I do not know where, instead of healthy patriotism, some unrestrained, liberal, confused babble has taken over, and where we ourselves are unable to say why we make the decisions we do, rather than right, patriotic, national everyday ones.

    The bad news is that when we do this, it must be characterized by the following words: modern, cool, trendy, sexy, upmarket. If we also try to cultivate everyday patriotism in language to the same level as that we use when talking to each other here, then the correct etiquette would be for us to all make the sign of the cross and simply look forward to the afterlife. But this is about the young generation. Our generation is fine the way we are, thank you very much, we have survived; but the situation is different for those coming along after us. If we cannot bridge the communication, cultural and other gaps, and if we cannot make everyday nationalism attractive to young people, rather than something chaotic, smelling of bad breath and the radical right, which sends shivers down people’s spines and puts them in a bad mood, if we cannot make it different from this with fresh and youthful language, then this is a battle we will not win. This is the biggest task. I cannot say exactly who are able to do this, because if I could, we would have already done it over the past few years; but the truth is that in this regard we have achieved the least success. We do not speak this language, this culture as we should, and those coming after us are somehow not strong enough or – heaven knows why – not effective enough. In this world, patriotic, nation-based, everyday life instincts, life advice and thoughts – together with the public opinions based on them – are not present in the debate. But we cannot avoid this battlefield, and if we do not rally to the call, it will be decided on the battlefield anyway.

  67. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Japanese call their future population distribution "the coffin" - it keeps getting wider all the way up to the shoulders before tapering at the head. In some projection the "shoulder" is going to be like in the age 80-85 group, which will be the largest age cohort. No society has every existed like this before.

    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well. They are going to have to something - you can run a society off of 80 year old workers. There are many tasks where most of them no longer have the physical or mental strength to carry them out.

    Replies: @Sean, @Chrisnonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @J.Ross

    I’m going to go Intelligent Dasein on this population prediction.

    Although the changing demographics in Japan are real, I’ve recently started hearing that I should “escape” back to the USA while I can from an educated acquaintance. This is a qualitative shift.

    If you want to change opinion in Japan, you start from the top. So I see this dystopianism as the possible vanguard of a change in the way people approach population questions.
    As represented by Abe’s push to increase foreign workers, you can see that the “common knowledge” of “population crash=more immigrants needed” has existed at the top. It is circulating down.

    Japan has been bringing in SE Asians and islanders to fill in population gaps for a long time. Alex Kerr talks about Filipinos brides being imported for bachelor farmers in the Iya Valley in his book Dogs and Demons. And places in the countryside already have bilingual street signs in Japanese and Portuguese because of the Brazilian factory workers. These are case studies. Did they solve the problems they were supposed to or did they just create populations of low-contribution ethnic minorities? You know the answer.

    The point is that some of the same trends pushing elites to import immigrants in the US apply to Japan. AI and robotics could be powerful tools to help deal with labor shortages and would have the added benefit of not being net drains on health and pension systems, not to mention food and fuel scarcity issues. In the country that fetishizes robots and has had high speed trains for 50 years, where is the “man on the moon” program to deal with labor through technology? Is this a failure of confidence? Of vision? Or is it a failure of interest born of the same growth and consumption addiction as the USA?

    The modern world is fundamentally unsustainable. There are only three solutions: (1) fall backwards into agrarianism with lower standard of living, (2) move forward into a future of more advanced technologies with arguably less low standard of living, (3) kick the can down the road via migration and consumption.

    Japan has weathered several population booms and busts in its history, but it has recovered because of human capital and culture. If it comes out on the other side of this bust with permanently altered ethnicity, it is finished.

    Kansai International airport (KIX) hasn’t lost a bag in like 25 years and the high speed train system has run for decades without a catastrophic accident. These are systems run by workers from the lower strata of Japan’s society. They could be run by robots and AI, but they couldn’t be run by ethnic minorities. You can’t run a society on 80 year olds, but you can’t run Japan on non-Japanese either.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Chrisnonymous

    For example, why are the Swiss working on robotic construction rather than the Japanese? All those temporary Chinese construction workers? Not needed. And if they don't come to Japan, they can't hook up with a Japanese gal and then stay.

    https://qz.com/1705386/the-dfab-house-exhibit-opens-in-new-york-city/

  68. That South African immigrants getting stones of 20 lbs against their head … are they Zimbabwean (as iSteve says) or Nigerian (what I have heard up to now)?

    I’m confused!

    It’s true that Nigeria is half a continent away from South Africa, but they do have stong emigration:

    https://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/africa/

    Also, fun in the blue dead zone:

    https://twitter.com/BasedPoland/status/1170327881744101378/video/1

  69. @Andy
    One has to consider that Mugabe and people of his age (probably down to those who would be around 75 now) were educated under a colonial educational system which was certainly far better than the current sytem run by Africans. Europeans at the time were quite impressed by some of these colonially educated Africans (Nyerere, Kenyatta, Kaunda).

    Replies: @Art Deco

    One has to consider that Mugabe and people of his age (probably down to those who would be around 75 now) were educated under a colonial educational system which was certainly far better than the current sytem run by Africans. Europeans at the time were quite impressed by some of these colonially educated Africans (Nyerere, Kenyatta, Kaunda).

    About 10% of the population over 15 in Tanganyika was literate in 1960. The European powers began to put boots on the ground in Tropical Africa around about 1895; most places were declared formally sovereign in 1960. So, the midpoint of their time as dependencies of Europe was around 1927, give or take. I’ve seen some data on school enrollments in Tanganyika in that era. Fewer than 10% of the youngsters of primary school age were enrolled around that time.

    Tropical Africa’s had many failures since 1960. One of their successes has been establishing basic literacy as the mode. Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Art Deco


    Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.
     
    Yes, this is quite the "Tropical Africa" success. All of those African researchers coming up with various medical breakthroughs and their top-notch medical staff implementing them. And, of course, the fabulous African-made transportation system delivering all of these medicines and medical services. Then there's the African agri-business executives, researchers and farmers making use of African tech discoveries in crop production and using African-made combines and other farming equipment (naturally improved upon by African engineers) to help feed their fellow Africans.

    Jesus, Art, you basically just said that one of the great successes of dogs has been improvement in their life expectancy since 1960.

    Do better.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.
     
    But they still have birth rates that would be needed to maintain a population with a life expectancy of 40. This leads to the World's Most Important Graph. It's very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades. No one seems to be making a serious effort at doing so in Africa because it would be racist to do this to black bodies or something.

    I was watching a TV show last night about a school that some foreign do-gooder had set up in Rwanda. They showed a bunch of little boys at the school. The boys were cute and well groomed and appeared to be eager to learn. It made you hopeful that development was possible. Then the camera zoomed out and you saw some more boys. And they they zoomed out some more and there were even more. Wall to wall boys as far as the eye could see. Herds of them, swarms of them. Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there's no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them. Whatever measures are taken to develop these countries are going to be undone by the massive population increase. Maybe foreign do-gooders can build them 1 school or 10 but their not going to be able to keep up when they need 100 or 1,000 more.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Art Deco

    , @Andy
    @Art Deco

    My point - and I realize I should have made myself clearer - is that the reason that very old men like Mugabe and other had remained at the top of the leadership of many African countries is that they were educated under a better education system than the present one (for those able to enter, granted, since most Africans were illiterate at the time). The present leadership educated in African's own education system pale in comparison.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  70. anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    “Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…”

    Those who date members of other races are disproportionately left wing, by about 50% more than “incel white males”. When white males do date interracial, it’s usually Asian girls. The “I’m With Her” cat litter crowd doesn’t appeal to the white males girls like you secretly desire. If anything, dork, effeminate SJWs are most at risk. They can barely get any as it is; thus, all the metoo charges levied at loser videogame critics and reporters. I guess we can expect more of this hostility from the wine aunt crowd as white males are stolen away by POC like AOC and Omar. BTW, has anyone noticed how many of them have white male boyfriends? Omar cheated with a white guy; AOC has a white male boyfriend; then there’s Susan Rice, Kamala Harris, etc. Dang. Self-loathing?

  71. @Sean
    @Jack D


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2015/04/01/this-is-no-april-fool-japan-is-beating-the-pants-off-the-united-states/#8299ab25b882
    Take, for instance, the official story that Japan’s national debt represents a world-beating 226 percent of gross domestic product, higher even than that of long-time leader Zimbabwe. Is this figure real? We have no way of independently checking it. All we have the Finance Ministry's say-so.The Finance Ministry, moreover, has a long-term record of special disingenuousness in misleading the West. Frankly if you believe Japan's government finances are in this sort of shape, there is a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to buy. In reality, as the French economist Thomas Piketty has pointed out, the official figure has to have been absurdly pumped up by accounting trickery. (If Japan really had incurred anything like Zimbabwe-style debt, it would long ago have suffered Zimbabwe-like inflation. Instead Japan, in a pattern very similar to Switzerland, has enjoyed rock-solid price stability for generations.)
     
    When the Japanese appear to be committing suicide: watch out!


    https://youtu.be/evHCgsAJRj8?t=45

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @J.Ross

    There’s no doubt that Japan is a prosperous society but it’s also an old society. The example that the author gives that the Japanese increasingly drive Lexuses and not Toyota subcompacts as in the past and travel abroad more is very telling. Old people drive luxury cars and have $ for foreign vacations.

    Japan is not a basket case but it has lost of lot of its edge in many fields. Why is Japan an also ran in the cell phone market? The TV market? The laptop market? Miniature electronics used to be their thing. How did they let the S. Koreans get ahead of them? Sony used to be the king of clever personal electronics. They had no foreign competitors for the Walkman. How did Apple outflank them? How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops? Japan should have been running the huge electronics assembly plants in China, not the Taiwanese. How did the Chinese end up buying out the Japanese LCD manufacturers? Japan was making transistor radios when the Koreans were still getting around in ox carts. This would be like the Mexicans getting ahead of the US in space technology or a Brazilian car company buying Ford.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Jack D

    Japan’s share of the world’s developed, working age population is so much lower than their peak in the 1980s. Their retreat hasn’t been so bad. Their trade dispute with South Korea revealed they have near monopolies on a lot of small but important electronics markets.

    Given the world as a whole is getting richer, the Japanese decision to compete on quality rather than price is wise.

    Replies: @Charon

    , @Sean
    @Jack D

    I have read Japan is currently being hurt by Trump's trade war with China, because Japans's economy is so tied to China's now. I think you are operating with old assumptions. Artificial intelligence displacement of wetware workers will happen incredibly fast after the breakthroughs because the next generation algorithms will need only robots. Japan is the world leader in robotics. Japan has more people spending and dying than saving and being born, but so what? Japanese productivity rising faster than the workforce declines seems inevitable and they are on the China bandwagon, which will surely provide them with enough growth. The coming problem will be how to justify letting redundant wetware individuals continue to be viewed as the repository of supreme value. The Japanese never really did view the individual that way.

    Replies: @Lot, @J.Ross

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Put simply, Japan has 'moved upmarket' and 'makes the machines that make the machines', that is, in the electronics industry at least, specialises in the design and fabrication plants for chips and all sorts of weird and wonderful gizmos that keep this modern computer age going.
    Economically, this is manufacturing squared - a necessity when faced with competitors it can never hope to beat on price.
    As a side note, it's Japanese technology - in the battery packs - that keeps the Teslas, and the rest, going. As electric cars will take over and displace IC engined vehicles, this represents a potential gold mine.

    , @bigdicknick
    @Jack D

    any mechanic will tell you Japan still has the top 2 car companies on earth (Toyota and Honda.)

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops?
     
    By torturing their mainland workforce and bamboozling officials, Tyson Foods-style, in places like Wisconsin?
  72. Western Europe will do nothing whatsoever but roll over and die in the face of the African invasion. They have been suitably brainwashed into self-loathing, and any populist resistance is crushed — see the Yellow Vests in France. 100 years ago, the army and police probably would have joined with them to take down the government. Now, the soldiers loyal to the power structure smash their own people with nary the blink of an eye. And so it shall go.

    Meanwhile, the Jews who created this mess are very quickly forming alliances with Asians. At some point in the future, the Jews will totally abandon Europe having, at last, destroyed their hated white Goy foes. Probably the financial center of London will be the last to go, though before that it will be a well-armed police state with machine-gun toting Muslim Bobbies keeping the streets of The City safe for the Jewish financiers. Everywhere else will be a third-world slum.

    In America, the Jewish-Chinese-Indian alliance will be the new power structure. What is now a very large Mandarin class of white goyishe kops who help run the Jewish machine and enforce the Jewish political narrative (and who are willingly anti-white against their own kind) is VERY quickly being populated with aspiring Asians who flood out of the Ivies and lesser schools and are filling in the starter slots in media, finance, law, academia, politics, etc. All the Jewish power strongholds.

    It’s still twenty years or so out, but by that timeframe, the power elite in America will clearly be Jewish-Asian, though a lot of Cory Booker and AOC types will still be around as Obama-style figureheads to keep the riff-raff placated. AOC was a total creation of her Indian handler. So yeah, it’s already started.

    And through all this, Jews will increasingly move to Asia and start the cycle all over again.

    Let’s check back here in twenty years to see if I’m right.

    • Agree: Cowboy shaw
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    @peterike

    In twenty years there won't be any "here" here.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  73. Why is The West paralyzed when it comes to defending its borders and putting a stop to the wave that will drown it?

  74. @Mr McKenna
    @Reg Cæsar

    Q: What are all the African women going to do,
    with all of the men having left the continent?

    A: Be very happy.

    Replies: @ricpic

    Free at last, free at last, RAPE FREE at last.

    • LOL: HammerJack
  75. @Art Deco
    @Andy

    One has to consider that Mugabe and people of his age (probably down to those who would be around 75 now) were educated under a colonial educational system which was certainly far better than the current sytem run by Africans. Europeans at the time were quite impressed by some of these colonially educated Africans (Nyerere, Kenyatta, Kaunda).

    About 10% of the population over 15 in Tanganyika was literate in 1960. The European powers began to put boots on the ground in Tropical Africa around about 1895; most places were declared formally sovereign in 1960. So, the midpoint of their time as dependencies of Europe was around 1927, give or take. I've seen some data on school enrollments in Tanganyika in that era. Fewer than 10% of the youngsters of primary school age were enrolled around that time.

    Tropical Africa's had many failures since 1960. One of their successes has been establishing basic literacy as the mode. Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Jack D, @Andy

    Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.

    Yes, this is quite the “Tropical Africa” success. All of those African researchers coming up with various medical breakthroughs and their top-notch medical staff implementing them. And, of course, the fabulous African-made transportation system delivering all of these medicines and medical services. Then there’s the African agri-business executives, researchers and farmers making use of African tech discoveries in crop production and using African-made combines and other farming equipment (naturally improved upon by African engineers) to help feed their fellow Africans.

    Jesus, Art, you basically just said that one of the great successes of dogs has been improvement in their life expectancy since 1960.

    Do better.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Medical technology can help, but at Africa's level of development, the improved life expectancy is going to come from improved sanitation and nutrition.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag

  76. anon[176] • Disclaimer says:

    “Stay tuned? The big involuntary celibacy story is about the Joker film and worries it might inspire white “incels” to do something other than go on the internet to complain about being a failed experiment by mother nature.”

    There is no concern there. Mostly, cat ladies who can’t get any are projecting their self-loathing onto the white men they secretly desire but can’t get. White men are far more desirous by the opposite sex than pretty much any non-white. The biggest incels were dorks like Elliot Rodgers (Asian), the Virginia Tech shooter Seung Hui Cho (Asian, 32 casualties), and guys like Anziz Ansari. It’s well-known Pakistani, Indian, and Asian men are out competed by white males in the dating market; that’s why Elliot Rodgers went nuts, despite having money. Don’t believe me? Ask IIhan Omar and AOC and Susan Rice and Kamala Harris …

  77. @Art Deco
    @Andy

    One has to consider that Mugabe and people of his age (probably down to those who would be around 75 now) were educated under a colonial educational system which was certainly far better than the current sytem run by Africans. Europeans at the time were quite impressed by some of these colonially educated Africans (Nyerere, Kenyatta, Kaunda).

    About 10% of the population over 15 in Tanganyika was literate in 1960. The European powers began to put boots on the ground in Tropical Africa around about 1895; most places were declared formally sovereign in 1960. So, the midpoint of their time as dependencies of Europe was around 1927, give or take. I've seen some data on school enrollments in Tanganyika in that era. Fewer than 10% of the youngsters of primary school age were enrolled around that time.

    Tropical Africa's had many failures since 1960. One of their successes has been establishing basic literacy as the mode. Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Jack D, @Andy

    Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.

    But they still have birth rates that would be needed to maintain a population with a life expectancy of 40. This leads to the World’s Most Important Graph. It’s very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades. No one seems to be making a serious effort at doing so in Africa because it would be racist to do this to black bodies or something.

    I was watching a TV show last night about a school that some foreign do-gooder had set up in Rwanda. They showed a bunch of little boys at the school. The boys were cute and well groomed and appeared to be eager to learn. It made you hopeful that development was possible. Then the camera zoomed out and you saw some more boys. And they they zoomed out some more and there were even more. Wall to wall boys as far as the eye could see. Herds of them, swarms of them. Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there’s no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them. Whatever measures are taken to develop these countries are going to be undone by the massive population increase. Maybe foreign do-gooders can build them 1 school or 10 but their not going to be able to keep up when they need 100 or 1,000 more.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Foreign do-gooders are the equivalent of the Nice White Lady leaving food out for a feral cat colony because it make HER feel good about herself and morally superior to her neighbors. And, yes, there are people that stupid.

    Lack of serious competition over the past 500 has made a good chunk of whites functionally retarded. Nature won't let this stand.

    , @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there’s no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them

    This is a nonsense statement. Employment is not a provision. It's what you get when one person agrees to pay a wage to another for services.


    It’s very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades.

    No, it doesn't take a big effort. People produce fewer children when more of the ones they produce survive, when land tenure arrangements limit bequests subdividing agricultural land, and when they have distractions other than copulating. Every part of the globe outside of Tropical Africa and a half dozen other impoverished loci has experienced a fertility transition during the post-war period, and generally a fairly thorough one. Even Tropical Africa has seen a 30% drop in total fertility rates in the last 40-odd years. Outside of Tropical Africa, there are three countries on the planet where the tfr exceeds 3.9 and about sixteen where it exceeds 2.9; nine of these 19 countries are harmless insular states with small populations overall.

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar

  78. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Japanese call their future population distribution "the coffin" - it keeps getting wider all the way up to the shoulders before tapering at the head. In some projection the "shoulder" is going to be like in the age 80-85 group, which will be the largest age cohort. No society has every existed like this before.

    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well. They are going to have to something - you can run a society off of 80 year old workers. There are many tasks where most of them no longer have the physical or mental strength to carry them out.

    Replies: @Sean, @Chrisnonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @J.Ross

    Bullshi$

    Japan doesn’t need Vietnamese workers. A racially homogeneous society can overcome almost any obstacle – except permanent invasion (and, yes, immigration is invasion) of another people. First off, Japan’s per capita GDP growth is just fine, not that we should worship at the alter of the great god Economy, but it’s a point that people should understand.

    Second, if some older Japanese don’t get as much care as we in the West would like, too bad. Grandpa not getting a personal nurse isn’t worth destroying your society by bringing in foreigners. Also, maybe it’ll show young Japanese the value of having family around you.

    Speaking of family, yes, Japan has a very low birthrate. So what? Everything is fixable – if you don’t bring in foreigners to destroy your society. (Israel gets this, Jack, as you are well aware.) Let nature take its course. People who don’t want children will slowly leave the gene pool. Those that do want children will have children who by their nature will be more inclined to have children. In addition, those children will have less competition for housing and job and thus will be able to afford . . . more children. The birthrate will rebound.

    Unless, of course, you follow the Jack D recommendation – interestingly, rejected by Israel and not recommended by Israel by Jack D – of inviting foreigner workers into your country. But, but, but, Jack says, I only mean as temporary workers, just like the Turks in Germany or Mexicans working the fields in California. Oh wait, he says, nevermind.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I don't make any recommendations to the Japanese, nor are they asking me.

    Israel, BTW, has lots of guest workers. Every elderly Holocaust survivor lady has a Filipino caretaker paid for by her rich children who don't want her living with them. Not to mention Chinese agricultural workers and Africans who snuck in before they beefed up the fences, etc. The idea that American Jews are hypocritical because they don't support the same policies for America that they support for Israel is idiotic. First of all, Liberal American Jews don't set Israel's immigration policies. Yes,if it was up to them, the politics of Israel would exactly match the politics of the Upper West Side, but it's not up to them. It's hard to say whether they hate Trump or Netanyahu more (and the feeling is mutual).

    2nd, Israel is not at all the ethnic monostate straw horse that people are beating here. Israel is WILDLY diverse, not just among Jewish groups (who themselves range from bearded Hasidim to tatooed hipsters to Ethiopian tribesmen to blond Russians who aren't really Jewish at all) but because it has large non-Jewish minorities of Arabs and Druze, not to mention all the immigrant workers.

    If you are looking for an ethnic monostate, you have to look at somewhere like Poland, where, thanks to the highly thorough Germans, Poland is now ethnically pure beyond the wildest dreams of the pre-war Polish nationalists. Although even that is starting to fray around the edges - the last time I was in Warsaw I passed a Nigerian restaurant and had lunch at a restaurant run by a Korean woman whose family ended up in the Soviet Union (to this day N. Korea sends guest workers for cash). The restaurant was smack in the middle of what used to be the former Warsaw Ghetto.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Citizen of a Silly Country

  79. I don’t think the Chinese want the Japanese running anything in China. And I don’t think the Japanese are eager to invest in the PRC given that it’s a kleptocratic communist state which may seize the assets of foreigners at any time.

  80. @Sean
    @Jack D


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2015/04/01/this-is-no-april-fool-japan-is-beating-the-pants-off-the-united-states/#8299ab25b882
    Take, for instance, the official story that Japan’s national debt represents a world-beating 226 percent of gross domestic product, higher even than that of long-time leader Zimbabwe. Is this figure real? We have no way of independently checking it. All we have the Finance Ministry's say-so.The Finance Ministry, moreover, has a long-term record of special disingenuousness in misleading the West. Frankly if you believe Japan's government finances are in this sort of shape, there is a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to buy. In reality, as the French economist Thomas Piketty has pointed out, the official figure has to have been absurdly pumped up by accounting trickery. (If Japan really had incurred anything like Zimbabwe-style debt, it would long ago have suffered Zimbabwe-like inflation. Instead Japan, in a pattern very similar to Switzerland, has enjoyed rock-solid price stability for generations.)
     
    When the Japanese appear to be committing suicide: watch out!


    https://youtu.be/evHCgsAJRj8?t=45

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @J.Ross

    Sadly, a Zero is a fighter plane made of balsa and an internal combustion engine and the Murrican Aircraft Carrier is ready for flight deck impacts (going so far as to have fuel not in pipes but in movable fuel tanks; the Japanese had the former, bad idea)

    Side-loading thought: Can you imagine Germans making a Zeichentrickfilm about the enhanced life story of Werner von Braun, his dreams of space flight and his glorious A4? Self-immolation in front of the Reichstag would probably be demanded — and granted.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @El Dato

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iB2uPzzdIw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGNIJTLG8Q4

  81. @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.
     
    But they still have birth rates that would be needed to maintain a population with a life expectancy of 40. This leads to the World's Most Important Graph. It's very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades. No one seems to be making a serious effort at doing so in Africa because it would be racist to do this to black bodies or something.

    I was watching a TV show last night about a school that some foreign do-gooder had set up in Rwanda. They showed a bunch of little boys at the school. The boys were cute and well groomed and appeared to be eager to learn. It made you hopeful that development was possible. Then the camera zoomed out and you saw some more boys. And they they zoomed out some more and there were even more. Wall to wall boys as far as the eye could see. Herds of them, swarms of them. Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there's no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them. Whatever measures are taken to develop these countries are going to be undone by the massive population increase. Maybe foreign do-gooders can build them 1 school or 10 but their not going to be able to keep up when they need 100 or 1,000 more.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Art Deco

    Foreign do-gooders are the equivalent of the Nice White Lady leaving food out for a feral cat colony because it make HER feel good about herself and morally superior to her neighbors. And, yes, there are people that stupid.

    Lack of serious competition over the past 500 has made a good chunk of whites functionally retarded. Nature won’t let this stand.

  82. @Tiny Duck
    I know who really like young African Men........

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Duke84, @Neoconned, @al gore rhythms, @SMK, @anon, @foulkes

    Combined with the invasion of Muslims, it means the end of Europe, culturally and civilizationally, and ultimately white genocide and, ineluctably, a war between Muslims and blacks and probably the triumph of Muslims who will kill blacks or convert them to Islam. The governing-classes and ruling elites of the UK and Western Europe are guilt-ridden, masochistic, and suicidal, even more so then their U.S. counterparts. Ergo, they’ll do nothing to stop this invasion and conserve Western Civilization. Will European Civilization survive in Eastern Europe and Russia? Who knows?

    • Replies: @SMK
    @SMK

    By "genocide," I wasn't implying that whites will be exterminated, en masse, by governments ruled by blacks and Muslims -though I'm sure that myriads of whites will be murdered, especially by Muslims in acts of terrorism that won't be prosecuted. Whites will go extinct, primarily, through declining birth-rates and micegenation, largely between black men and white females..

  83. @Lurker
    @The Alarmist

    But muh Schengen Area?!

    Replies: @Fredrik

    UK isn’t in Schengen and never were.

    Anyone Asian or African boarding a flight to London or New York has a valid visa from the receiving country. Chances are these people who apparently are onboard these Lufthansa flights are in fact English(according to the vast majority)

  84. Have you not noticed Eric Schmidt, of Google? Or Warren Buffett? Both are polygamous. Both are wealthy.

  85. @Rosie

    Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.
     
    My sense is that where women have no political power, young men have no political power. Women's (socialist) influence tends to enhance the wellbeing and prospects of young men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Sean, @Anonymous, @anonymous

    The power behind Mugabe’s throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages “deserve” special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough – the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, “white privilege” is a thing but “powerful woman’s privilege” is not.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Jack D

    Sounds like Louis XVI, who did not have a special taste for luxurious excess, but lost his head because the wife did.

    , @Forbes
    @Jack D


    women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough – the debt can never be repaid in full).
     
    My 82-year old uncle recently passed away. His second wife (married 15 years ago when he was 67), appeared to think that she was entitled to everything he owned--despite the three grown and married children from his first marriage, and eight grandchildren. Needless to say, her provided for his heirs.

    Her's is not a good look.

    , @anonymous
    @Jack D

    The current mayor of New York and his wife come to mind.

    , @William Badwhite
    @Jack D

    Oh crap. Everyone brace yourselves for 350 posts by Rosie between now and tomorrow AM.

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).
     
    Mugabe was known for being a bookish nerd who took correspondence courses during prison and whose primary indulgence until he met his second wife was flying into London incognito to browse the bookstores there:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/mugabe-died-late/597616/

    A teacher by training, he spent his imprisonment in near-constant study, earning degrees in law and administration from the University of London by correspondence. It is said that even while president of Zimbabwe, he sometimes flew to London secretly to browse new titles at Dillons, a huge bookstore in Bloomsbury.
     

    Replies: @Ed

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages “deserve” special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough – the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, “white privilege” is a thing but “powerful woman’s privilege” is not.
     
    The annals of Chinese history, having been written by dead yellow men, are replete with the dangers to the throne posed by grasping empresses and concubines and the associated train of in-laws. While it's unclear how much of this was real, given the homily-driven narrative of Chinese historical accounts, it was a recurrent theme.
    , @Corvinus
    @Jack D

    "The power behind Mugabe’s throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife."

    Sources?

    "The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages “deserve” special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption."

    Replace "women" with "men and women" and you would be accurate.

    "When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them".

    You are making a sweeping generalization.

  86. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    I know who really like young African Men........

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Duke84, @Neoconned, @al gore rhythms, @SMK, @anon, @foulkes

    See this is the same problem some cave-men had. Knocking a woman over the head and dragging her off to a cave to be man-handled does not equal “I like you”. Having to knock her out to get her in bed, doesn’t equal “I want you”. Having to tie her up to keep her around you doesn’t mean “I love you”.
    History always has so many lessons we can bring forward to the present. Maybe some day we’ll actually learn something from the Flintstones.

  87. @Argentine American
    "The Tide of Color" is impossible to stop.
    They are too big in numbers.
    Travel has become easier, cheaper and quicker.

    The biggest reason : White people all across the West are wayy too cucked to stop anything. They can easily stop all this but don't have the spine to do so.

    Just imagine, countries that spend billions of dollars on their defense budgets every year and have got naval ships and Aircraft Carriers roaming all across the Mediterranean Sea can't stop uneducated, unarmed hordes of uncivilized Africans cramped into small dinghies.
    Italy has got 5, Britain 3 and France has got 2 carriers with Eurofighter Typhoons and Rafale jets parked on them besides hundreds of frigates and patrol boats. When are you gonna use that?

    Shame on these people and their governments. With this attitude, you deserve to go extinct.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jim bob Lassiter, @Robert Dolan

    Jodés mucho Che.

  88. @Wilkey
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans' large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don't feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it's all costing us.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Mr McKenna, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Stebbing Heuer, @Lot, @Alfa158

    “And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don’t feel like Lagos.”

    Exactly. This is the biggest effect.

    Especially sad for Europe whose ancient cities cannot be replaced by building suburbs the way the USA copes with the issue. Europe is also poorer, older, and weaker than the USA was when we started on our gigantic suburban resettlement in the 1960s.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Lot

    So what is that White Flight accomplished for white Americans? It saved them a little time but now you have to run to the exburgs to escape diversity and soon run to the hills. Fight or flight!

    https://youtu.be/86URGgqONvA

  89. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    Sounds like Louis XVI, who did not have a special taste for luxurious excess, but lost his head because the wife did.

  90. @Jack D
    @Sean

    There's no doubt that Japan is a prosperous society but it's also an old society. The example that the author gives that the Japanese increasingly drive Lexuses and not Toyota subcompacts as in the past and travel abroad more is very telling. Old people drive luxury cars and have $ for foreign vacations.

    Japan is not a basket case but it has lost of lot of its edge in many fields. Why is Japan an also ran in the cell phone market? The TV market? The laptop market? Miniature electronics used to be their thing. How did they let the S. Koreans get ahead of them? Sony used to be the king of clever personal electronics. They had no foreign competitors for the Walkman. How did Apple outflank them? How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops? Japan should have been running the huge electronics assembly plants in China, not the Taiwanese. How did the Chinese end up buying out the Japanese LCD manufacturers? Japan was making transistor radios when the Koreans were still getting around in ox carts. This would be like the Mexicans getting ahead of the US in space technology or a Brazilian car company buying Ford.

    Replies: @Lot, @Sean, @Anonymous, @bigdicknick, @Reg Cæsar

    Japan’s share of the world’s developed, working age population is so much lower than their peak in the 1980s. Their retreat hasn’t been so bad. Their trade dispute with South Korea revealed they have near monopolies on a lot of small but important electronics markets.

    Given the world as a whole is getting richer, the Japanese decision to compete on quality rather than price is wise.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Charon
    @Lot

    Yep. They are almost the very model of a truly advanced society. They're not in danger of disappearing--that's stupid propaganda from the open-borders crowd which is just angry at the object lesson Japan provides.

    Uncontrolled growth is not a good thing. It's actually a signal characteristic of cancer.

  91. OT:

    I still vividly remember 18 years ago today in NYC. The clear blue skies which were suddenly black with smoke. Ashes falling out of the sky even out in Brooklyn. Some friends who had just left jobs in the WTC, or were off that day, or late to work. Others who weren’t so lucky.

    One of my kids was stuck in Lower Manhattan for a few days after some people did something. She was about 1 1/2 at the time. Now a sophomore in college. She has had some respiratory problems off and on since then, which her siblings never had. Is is because it runs in the family, or because the government lied about all the poison in the air. Or both. We will never know.

    Remember there was a time after that when we all came together, liberals and conservatives, people of all colors and creeds, American born and immigrants. For a brief moment we could all just be Americans and support each other.

    I have nothing else to say about anything else today. I wish all my fellow Americans the best of everything. Never forget and never let it happen again.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Paleo Liberal

    '...Remember there was a time after that when we all came together, liberals and conservatives, people of all colors and creeds, American born and immigrants. For a brief moment we could all just be Americans and support each other...'

    Now, I remember just the opposite. That night, some friends were to take us to an Indian restaurant. I phoned and insisted we change the venue. I didn't care if Indians hadn't staged the attack; I just didn't want to look at Asians right then.

    Then there was the brief flourishing of the most outlandishly Islamophobic theories; the Zionists were just going nuts purveying pseudo-scientific racist nonsense.

    Finally, there was a perfectly nice -- if very large -- Palestinian family that lived up the street. My son used to play with their children. Every evening, they'd go for a walk. After 9/11, that stopped. They vanished.

    So 'we' came together -- most of us, against the rest. And the sentiment was promptly put to good use -- in the service of Master.

    , @notsaying
    @Paleo Liberal

    Today is a bright and sunny day where I am with lots of white billowy clouds. As I recall, that day in Manhattan was cloudless or the next thing to it.

    The years have passed and we still have Muslim fighters around the world, including in Afghanistan. I don't know what can be done to get them out of there. I'm not sure anybody knows that. I don't think our continued presence there is helping to actually fix things but I hate the idea of a Taliban takeover; they already have control 50% of the country so I am not hopeful the Afghans would win back territory if we would leave now.

    There's just no easy answers. I think we should be focusing on our many needs here and try to stop chasing shadows around the world at the cost of billions per year. We might find that our safety is just as great if we make ourselves stronger here at home.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Paleo Liberal

    I was working in NYC at that time and was there that day too. I share your sentiments.

  92. @Colin Wright
    'African masses modernize enough to contemplate immigrating.'

    It's emigrating they'd be contemplating, not immigrating. I supposed you can contemplate others immigrating to where you already are, but I don't think you can ever contemplate doing it yourself. Necessarily, you're already there.

    Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter

    Steve know whachu mean Butter Bean.

  93. @Argentine American
    "The Tide of Color" is impossible to stop.
    They are too big in numbers.
    Travel has become easier, cheaper and quicker.

    The biggest reason : White people all across the West are wayy too cucked to stop anything. They can easily stop all this but don't have the spine to do so.

    Just imagine, countries that spend billions of dollars on their defense budgets every year and have got naval ships and Aircraft Carriers roaming all across the Mediterranean Sea can't stop uneducated, unarmed hordes of uncivilized Africans cramped into small dinghies.
    Italy has got 5, Britain 3 and France has got 2 carriers with Eurofighter Typhoons and Rafale jets parked on them besides hundreds of frigates and patrol boats. When are you gonna use that?

    Shame on these people and their governments. With this attitude, you deserve to go extinct.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Jim bob Lassiter, @Robert Dolan

    No….we can’t “easily stop” the invasion because western countries are controlled by a hostile elite that is hell bent on the destruction of the west.

  94. @Lot
    @Wilkey

    “And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don’t feel like Lagos.”

    Exactly. This is the biggest effect.

    Especially sad for Europe whose ancient cities cannot be replaced by building suburbs the way the USA copes with the issue. Europe is also poorer, older, and weaker than the USA was when we started on our gigantic suburban resettlement in the 1960s.

    Replies: @BB753

    So what is that White Flight accomplished for white Americans? It saved them a little time but now you have to run to the exburgs to escape diversity and soon run to the hills. Fight or flight!

  95. @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.
     
    But they still have birth rates that would be needed to maintain a population with a life expectancy of 40. This leads to the World's Most Important Graph. It's very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades. No one seems to be making a serious effort at doing so in Africa because it would be racist to do this to black bodies or something.

    I was watching a TV show last night about a school that some foreign do-gooder had set up in Rwanda. They showed a bunch of little boys at the school. The boys were cute and well groomed and appeared to be eager to learn. It made you hopeful that development was possible. Then the camera zoomed out and you saw some more boys. And they they zoomed out some more and there were even more. Wall to wall boys as far as the eye could see. Herds of them, swarms of them. Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there's no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them. Whatever measures are taken to develop these countries are going to be undone by the massive population increase. Maybe foreign do-gooders can build them 1 school or 10 but their not going to be able to keep up when they need 100 or 1,000 more.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Art Deco

    Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there’s no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them

    This is a nonsense statement. Employment is not a provision. It’s what you get when one person agrees to pay a wage to another for services.

    It’s very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades.

    No, it doesn’t take a big effort. People produce fewer children when more of the ones they produce survive, when land tenure arrangements limit bequests subdividing agricultural land, and when they have distractions other than copulating. Every part of the globe outside of Tropical Africa and a half dozen other impoverished loci has experienced a fertility transition during the post-war period, and generally a fairly thorough one. Even Tropical Africa has seen a 30% drop in total fertility rates in the last 40-odd years. Outside of Tropical Africa, there are three countries on the planet where the tfr exceeds 3.9 and about sixteen where it exceeds 2.9; nine of these 19 countries are harmless insular states with small populations overall.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Art Deco


    Even Tropical Africa has seen a 30% drop in total fertility rates in the last 40-odd years.
     
    Really?

    Black Africa does seem different regarding fertility: "quantity has a quality all its own."

    To say there is nothing to worry about because "everyone else has done it" is a poor argument.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Art Deco


    ...and when they have distractions other than copulating.
     
    Well, that writes off Pitcairn Island.
  96. @Wilkey
    @miss marple


    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…
     
    To some small degree perhaps. More importantly, they will be stealing the tax dollars of working Europeans, especially men, who will be forced to pay enormous amounts to subsidize the Africans' large numbers of children, the vast majority of whom will have African mothers.

    And to make matters worse, their growing presence will make it ever more difficult for European natives to find affordable homes in neighborhoods that don't feel like Lagos.

    The immigration policy of our so-called leaders is all so incredibly insane.

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it's all costing us.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Mr McKenna, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Stebbing Heuer, @Lot, @Alfa158

    I don’t think future generations will be paying the bill, because future generations will be the same “New Americans” and “New Europeans” who are running a tab. When real inflation returns and the government can no longer sell bonds because they can’t afford to raise the interest rates above the inflation rate, the debt will simply be written off and damn the consequences.
    Right now many countries are behaving like someone who has no limit on their credit cards and has just been told they have six months to live. Which, I suppose, is pretty much the situation we’re in, just on an extended time scale.

  97. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough – the debt can never be repaid in full).

    My 82-year old uncle recently passed away. His second wife (married 15 years ago when he was 67), appeared to think that she was entitled to everything he owned–despite the three grown and married children from his first marriage, and eight grandchildren. Needless to say, her provided for his heirs.

    Her’s is not a good look.

  98. @Jack D
    @Sean

    There's no doubt that Japan is a prosperous society but it's also an old society. The example that the author gives that the Japanese increasingly drive Lexuses and not Toyota subcompacts as in the past and travel abroad more is very telling. Old people drive luxury cars and have $ for foreign vacations.

    Japan is not a basket case but it has lost of lot of its edge in many fields. Why is Japan an also ran in the cell phone market? The TV market? The laptop market? Miniature electronics used to be their thing. How did they let the S. Koreans get ahead of them? Sony used to be the king of clever personal electronics. They had no foreign competitors for the Walkman. How did Apple outflank them? How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops? Japan should have been running the huge electronics assembly plants in China, not the Taiwanese. How did the Chinese end up buying out the Japanese LCD manufacturers? Japan was making transistor radios when the Koreans were still getting around in ox carts. This would be like the Mexicans getting ahead of the US in space technology or a Brazilian car company buying Ford.

    Replies: @Lot, @Sean, @Anonymous, @bigdicknick, @Reg Cæsar

    I have read Japan is currently being hurt by Trump’s trade war with China, because Japans’s economy is so tied to China’s now. I think you are operating with old assumptions. Artificial intelligence displacement of wetware workers will happen incredibly fast after the breakthroughs because the next generation algorithms will need only robots. Japan is the world leader in robotics. Japan has more people spending and dying than saving and being born, but so what? Japanese productivity rising faster than the workforce declines seems inevitable and they are on the China bandwagon, which will surely provide them with enough growth. The coming problem will be how to justify letting redundant wetware individuals continue to be viewed as the repository of supreme value. The Japanese never really did view the individual that way.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Sean

    “I have read Japan is currently being hurt by Trump’s trade war with China”

    Nope. All the rest of east asia is seeing booming US investment and trade. Taiwan, Indonesia, and Vietnam seem to be getting the biggest benefits.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @J.Ross
    @Sean

    How would that even work? The only way I see would be Japanese brands manufacturing in China and hoping to sell in the US. But Vietnam has been ahead of China as a manufacturing choice from before the trade dusputes, and those goods can be sold anywhere else.

  99. @Paleo Liberal
    OT:

    I still vividly remember 18 years ago today in NYC. The clear blue skies which were suddenly black with smoke. Ashes falling out of the sky even out in Brooklyn. Some friends who had just left jobs in the WTC, or were off that day, or late to work. Others who weren’t so lucky.

    One of my kids was stuck in Lower Manhattan for a few days after some people did something. She was about 1 1/2 at the time. Now a sophomore in college. She has had some respiratory problems off and on since then, which her siblings never had. Is is because it runs in the family, or because the government lied about all the poison in the air. Or both. We will never know.

    Remember there was a time after that when we all came together, liberals and conservatives, people of all colors and creeds, American born and immigrants. For a brief moment we could all just be Americans and support each other.

    I have nothing else to say about anything else today. I wish all my fellow Americans the best of everything. Never forget and never let it happen again.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @notsaying, @Harry Baldwin

    ‘…Remember there was a time after that when we all came together, liberals and conservatives, people of all colors and creeds, American born and immigrants. For a brief moment we could all just be Americans and support each other…’

    Now, I remember just the opposite. That night, some friends were to take us to an Indian restaurant. I phoned and insisted we change the venue. I didn’t care if Indians hadn’t staged the attack; I just didn’t want to look at Asians right then.

    Then there was the brief flourishing of the most outlandishly Islamophobic theories; the Zionists were just going nuts purveying pseudo-scientific racist nonsense.

    Finally, there was a perfectly nice — if very large — Palestinian family that lived up the street. My son used to play with their children. Every evening, they’d go for a walk. After 9/11, that stopped. They vanished.

    So ‘we’ came together — most of us, against the rest. And the sentiment was promptly put to good use — in the service of Master.

  100. “It’s no continent for young men. Why Africa is so biased against the young is uncertain. One theory is that in a region besieged by diseases such as malaria, the sexiest attribute in a husband is a strong immune system, which is most convincingly demonstrated by not dying.”

    You mean currently the continent is not for young men to be in the top position of power, Mr. Sailer. Indeed, the majority of African heads of state are between the ages of 55 and 75, which represents a significant gap between policy makers and policy followers.

    About 14 percent are under 40 years of age when it comes to representatives in their parliaments, which actually is on par with the rest of the world. So perhaps it’s no world for young men…

    However, 70 percent of sub-Saharan Africa’s population is under the age of 30. Significant efforts are underway to ensure that the youth will have a seat at the table when it comes to making decisions for their continent. But don’t let the narrative stand in the way of progress.

    https://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/april-2018-july-2018/nurturing-young-leaders

    https://www.usaid.gov/yali

    https://www.counterpart.org/stories/young-leaders-transforming-africa-world/

    “African governments are not terribly careful about collecting vital statistics and even if they were, politics would get in the way of publishing objective censuses.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “During the first two decades of Mugabe’s rule, Zimbabwe’s highly productive white farmers were largely left unmolested.“

    I wonder why. Does our intrepid author put his pattern recognition skills to the test? Not me, says Bil Keane. Per usual, there must be the proper context how these farmers were highly productive and why they were left unmolested before and during Mo Fo Mugabe’s reign of terror.

    Prior to 1980, Zimbabe’s white minority dominated the landscape—politically, economically, socially. How did they arrive to this magical (dirt) place? Immigration. From 1891 to 1955, the population went from 1500 to 150,000, with black farmland seized and redistributed to white agriculturists. Fortunately, there were (anti-) whites who opposed such harsh, but required measures. In 1947, Harry Meade unsuccessfully opposed the eviction of his black neighbor, but it was to no avail. Another influx of whites arrived from the 1940’s to the 1970’s, ranging from communist refugees to former military personnel in India. This place was a haven white people, who received generous education and healthcare benefits from the government (can we say socialism). Then, that crooked Mugabe pulled the rug from underneath whitey—who had happily established a separate society—and (poof), their privileges disappeared.

    Of course, the white farmers should not be booted off their property; then again, was it their land in the first place? Remember, colonial-era land grabs meant that the nation’s most productive areas was reserved for white people, with black farmers forced onto marginal areas. Tit for tat? Land reform was focused on redistributing white-owned land to black farmers, to correct colonial wrongs, after Muggin’ Mugabe assured citizens that this process would be slow. But by 2000, amid growing discontent, the colorful Mugabe supported forcible land grabs, which received international condemnation.

    Sometimes it really helps to provide a fuller picture rather than a snapshot.

    https://www.africanews.com/2019/05/16/zimbabwe-pays-64m-to-white-farmers-who-lost-land-under-mugabe//

    “Continental self-defense is such a crazy idea that it just might work.”

    Rumor has it that Syrian Shirley Temple, Shumaila Tamer, was coerced by her slavers to sing the Alt Right version of “The Good Ship Lollipop” in broken English for some Rooh Afza. Here is the first verse.

    “I’ve been thrown in the water, really cold it feels
    I will make some noise with real live shrieks and squeals
    Didn’t think I would drown, it’s not neat to sink
    And when I do, how great a trip on this rink a dink-dink”

    “On the Bad Ship, No Bread Crumbs
    It’s a rough trip on the Mare Nostrum
    No boom-boom guns?
    Just sink the damn ships, you Europuns”

    “there are vastly more who will depart for the First World in the future as the African masses modernize enough to contemplate immigrating.”

    Migration of peoples is our thang as a human race. Why are we surprised?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Corvinus


    Migration of peoples is our thang as a human race. Why are we surprised?
     
    Are you serious? Blacks, i.e. Africans never migrated anywhere, seriously, on their own. Sailer is completely right when he divides humanity, re races, to blacks and non-blacks.

    Blacks stick out as the ultimate disaster for every human enterprise.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Corvinus

    , @anonymous
    @Corvinus

    'Of course, the white farmers should not be booted off their property; then again, '

    Most land that Mugabe seized was bought by commercial farmers *after,* independence and they had the deeds to prove it. Also much of it was mortgaged by people who thought Zimbabwe would buck the African mean-kind of shows good faith. Still they got thier lesson taught to them.

    Made no difference. By the way it is a terrible idead to convert agribusiness to smallholdings- Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa and Zimbabwe was a basket case printing 100 trillion dollar notes.

  101. @Greattit
    @miss marple

    To be fair Belle Delphine is an African in Europe who’s catering to American and European incels. So it’s not all bad news.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Belle-Delphine looks pretty white. Are there many Kirschners in Africa?

    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/belle-delphine

  102. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Sean

    There's no doubt that Japan is a prosperous society but it's also an old society. The example that the author gives that the Japanese increasingly drive Lexuses and not Toyota subcompacts as in the past and travel abroad more is very telling. Old people drive luxury cars and have $ for foreign vacations.

    Japan is not a basket case but it has lost of lot of its edge in many fields. Why is Japan an also ran in the cell phone market? The TV market? The laptop market? Miniature electronics used to be their thing. How did they let the S. Koreans get ahead of them? Sony used to be the king of clever personal electronics. They had no foreign competitors for the Walkman. How did Apple outflank them? How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops? Japan should have been running the huge electronics assembly plants in China, not the Taiwanese. How did the Chinese end up buying out the Japanese LCD manufacturers? Japan was making transistor radios when the Koreans were still getting around in ox carts. This would be like the Mexicans getting ahead of the US in space technology or a Brazilian car company buying Ford.

    Replies: @Lot, @Sean, @Anonymous, @bigdicknick, @Reg Cæsar

    Put simply, Japan has ‘moved upmarket’ and ‘makes the machines that make the machines’, that is, in the electronics industry at least, specialises in the design and fabrication plants for chips and all sorts of weird and wonderful gizmos that keep this modern computer age going.
    Economically, this is manufacturing squared – a necessity when faced with competitors it can never hope to beat on price.
    As a side note, it’s Japanese technology – in the battery packs – that keeps the Teslas, and the rest, going. As electric cars will take over and displace IC engined vehicles, this represents a potential gold mine.

  103. @Duke84
    @Tiny Duck

    Fat,ugly white girls we don't want and we certainly don't want your women.

    Replies: @Kronos

    You might be on to something Tiny.

  104. @istevefan
    Steve,

    How do you deal with this stuff day in, day out without becoming angry? You obviously can see what is happening to our civilization, yet you remain somewhat clinically detached. Are you ever tempted to become more politically active like a Pat Buchanan?

    Replies: @anonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Known Fact, @Peter Frost

    Steve can do the most good by doing what he’s doing now: writing daily columns. It would be a bad move for him to go into politics at a time when his audience is larger than ever.

    I can see Ron going into politics. He’s intelligent and well spoken, and he has enough money. Unfortunately he lacks political acumen. He tends to alienate potential friends, often in the vain hope of winning over potential enemies.

    In any case, the big question is not what Steve is doing. It’s what each and everyone of us is doing. Before you brush your teeth in the morning, recite this question three times: “What am I doing?”

    Yeah, yeah. I’m familiar with the reasons for doing nothing: fear of losing your job, fear of what friends might think, fear of physical attack by Antifa … But there are little things you can do, while keeping a low profile:

    – Don’t subscribe to a newspaper if you dislike its ideological content.

    – Don’t subscribe to cable TV. Yes, many companies will bundle cable TV with Internet and phone services, but there are ways to unbundle.

    – Don’t go to a church that supports causes you don’t believe in. If you’re afraid of standing up in church and denouncing those causes, then just leave.

    – Don’t nod your head in agreement when “friends” say things you disagree with. If you don’t want to disagree, say nothing. Don’t be a passive accomplice.

    – Don’t vote for mainstream conservatives (unless your local candidate is solid on the issues you support). In Canada, DON’T VOTE FOR ANDREW SCHEER. He’s a nice guy, but that’s his big problem. He will be a lame-duck prime minister from his first day of office. VOTE FOR MAXIME BERNIER.

    – Wherever you live, do your homework and exercise your right to vote.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @jeppo
    @Peter Frost

    DON’T VOTE FOR ANDREW SCHEER

    VOTE FOR MAXIME BERNIER

    Rinse and repeat for the next six weeks.

  105. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned…

    Also the dykey-dominant lesbians are stealing the feminine lesbians who can go either way. Stealing them from the heterosexual dating, marrying pool. Theses fem-lesbians are sexual fence sitters (ouch!) and after wasting up to a decade of confused stupidity they settle down with a man.

  106. @Intelligent Dasein
    I don't believe the "heroic adventure" stuff. We already know that globalist NGOs are the ones ferrying the Africans across the Mediterranean. Are we to believe that this is the only leg of the journey in which they've had their hand? Would similar organizations not be enticing and funding the invaders within the continent itself?

    While taking another's prize might be construed as an heroic undertaking, passively receiving the other's gibs is not so much.

    Replies: @Sean, @Old Palo Altan

    And please God may your intuition that there are only 300 million of them prove correct.

  107. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    The current mayor of New York and his wife come to mind.

  108. @Jack D
    @Sean

    There's no doubt that Japan is a prosperous society but it's also an old society. The example that the author gives that the Japanese increasingly drive Lexuses and not Toyota subcompacts as in the past and travel abroad more is very telling. Old people drive luxury cars and have $ for foreign vacations.

    Japan is not a basket case but it has lost of lot of its edge in many fields. Why is Japan an also ran in the cell phone market? The TV market? The laptop market? Miniature electronics used to be their thing. How did they let the S. Koreans get ahead of them? Sony used to be the king of clever personal electronics. They had no foreign competitors for the Walkman. How did Apple outflank them? How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops? Japan should have been running the huge electronics assembly plants in China, not the Taiwanese. How did the Chinese end up buying out the Japanese LCD manufacturers? Japan was making transistor radios when the Koreans were still getting around in ox carts. This would be like the Mexicans getting ahead of the US in space technology or a Brazilian car company buying Ford.

    Replies: @Lot, @Sean, @Anonymous, @bigdicknick, @Reg Cæsar

    any mechanic will tell you Japan still has the top 2 car companies on earth (Toyota and Honda.)

  109. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    Oh crap. Everyone brace yourselves for 350 posts by Rosie between now and tomorrow AM.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  110. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Art Deco


    Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.
     
    Yes, this is quite the "Tropical Africa" success. All of those African researchers coming up with various medical breakthroughs and their top-notch medical staff implementing them. And, of course, the fabulous African-made transportation system delivering all of these medicines and medical services. Then there's the African agri-business executives, researchers and farmers making use of African tech discoveries in crop production and using African-made combines and other farming equipment (naturally improved upon by African engineers) to help feed their fellow Africans.

    Jesus, Art, you basically just said that one of the great successes of dogs has been improvement in their life expectancy since 1960.

    Do better.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Medical technology can help, but at Africa’s level of development, the improved life expectancy is going to come from improved sanitation and nutrition.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Art Deco

    Quite true . . . and completely irrelevant to my point, which remains correct whether you wish to divert people's attention or not.

    Once again: Africans essentially had zero to do with the increasing lifespan of Africans. If the rest of world disappeared tomorrow, African lifespans would quickly fall to where they were 500 years ago as the infrastructure that we built and paid for fell into disrepair.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Corvinus

    , @bomag
    @Art Deco


    ...from improved sanitation and nutrition
     
    Again, this is Western tech enabling the world's most famous graph.

    One of their successes has been establishing basic literacy as the mode.
     
    I'm not sure this is apropos of anything. It hasn't made the place somewhere anyone wants to stay. I guess it allows them to research new places where they can move and displace the locals.
  111. @TelfoedJohn
    A great article on Rhodesia / Zimbabwe, and all of post-colonial Africa is this by Theodore Dalrymple: https://www.city-journal.org/html/after-empire-12420.html

    It makes this point about the huge social obligations that Africans have. If one member of the family rises to professional prominence, he would still be penniless because his family would start draining money from him. The white doctor and black doctor could live in the same colonial style house, but the African-owned house would rapidly turn into a slum filled with his extended family.

    I would say IQ has a big influence too, since some high IQ Asian countries have high levels of social obligation, and still do well. But those people do even better in more individualistic white countries. You can see social obligation making a difference in more ‘backward’ European countries, with lower economic development and more corruption in the Southern and Eastern parts of Europe... Some in Western Europe idealise the greater family warmth and traditionalism in these countries, but it might come at a cost.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @PV van der Byl

    If one member of the family rises to professional prominence, he would still be penniless because his family would start draining money from him. The white doctor and black doctor could live in the same colonial style house, but the African-owned house would rapidly turn into a slum filled with his extended family.

    This extends to the village as well. It is _very_ dangerous to be seen as prosperous in Africa. The children learn at a young age–everything of value must be hidden.

    That is why “black capitalism” has been dead in the water in Africa. Without social trust “progress” is impossible–forever.

    Coming to a country near you…soon…..

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Justvisiting

    Excellent point.

    Gedaliah Braun/ Dr Eugene Valberg (a Jew who lived in Africa for 30 years and has a black wife and black children) makes this point in racism, guilt, self deciet and self deception: Africans are extremely envious and often kill those that try to rise above thier station. It ties in to them being primitive and seeing life as a zero-sum game although to be honest it is more of an instinct.

  112. @peterike
    Western Europe will do nothing whatsoever but roll over and die in the face of the African invasion. They have been suitably brainwashed into self-loathing, and any populist resistance is crushed -- see the Yellow Vests in France. 100 years ago, the army and police probably would have joined with them to take down the government. Now, the soldiers loyal to the power structure smash their own people with nary the blink of an eye. And so it shall go.

    Meanwhile, the Jews who created this mess are very quickly forming alliances with Asians. At some point in the future, the Jews will totally abandon Europe having, at last, destroyed their hated white Goy foes. Probably the financial center of London will be the last to go, though before that it will be a well-armed police state with machine-gun toting Muslim Bobbies keeping the streets of The City safe for the Jewish financiers. Everywhere else will be a third-world slum.

    In America, the Jewish-Chinese-Indian alliance will be the new power structure. What is now a very large Mandarin class of white goyishe kops who help run the Jewish machine and enforce the Jewish political narrative (and who are willingly anti-white against their own kind) is VERY quickly being populated with aspiring Asians who flood out of the Ivies and lesser schools and are filling in the starter slots in media, finance, law, academia, politics, etc. All the Jewish power strongholds.

    It's still twenty years or so out, but by that timeframe, the power elite in America will clearly be Jewish-Asian, though a lot of Cory Booker and AOC types will still be around as Obama-style figureheads to keep the riff-raff placated. AOC was a total creation of her Indian handler. So yeah, it's already started.

    And through all this, Jews will increasingly move to Asia and start the cycle all over again.

    Let's check back here in twenty years to see if I'm right.

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

    In twenty years there won’t be any “here” here.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Old Palo Altan

    "Where you come from is gone. Where you thought you were going to weren’t never there. And where you are ain’t no good unless you can get away from it."

  113. @Lot
    @Jack D

    Japan’s share of the world’s developed, working age population is so much lower than their peak in the 1980s. Their retreat hasn’t been so bad. Their trade dispute with South Korea revealed they have near monopolies on a lot of small but important electronics markets.

    Given the world as a whole is getting richer, the Japanese decision to compete on quality rather than price is wise.

    Replies: @Charon

    Yep. They are almost the very model of a truly advanced society. They’re not in danger of disappearing–that’s stupid propaganda from the open-borders crowd which is just angry at the object lesson Japan provides.

    Uncontrolled growth is not a good thing. It’s actually a signal characteristic of cancer.

  114. @Art Deco
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Medical technology can help, but at Africa's level of development, the improved life expectancy is going to come from improved sanitation and nutrition.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag

    Quite true . . . and completely irrelevant to my point, which remains correct whether you wish to divert people’s attention or not.

    Once again: Africans essentially had zero to do with the increasing lifespan of Africans. If the rest of world disappeared tomorrow, African lifespans would quickly fall to where they were 500 years ago as the infrastructure that we built and paid for fell into disrepair.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Once again: Africans essentially had zero to do with the increasing lifespan of Africans. If the rest of world disappeared tomorrow, African lifespans would quickly fall to where they were 500 years ago as the infrastructure that we built and paid for fell into disrepair.

    Thanks for the counterfactual. It's been an education.

    The significance of overseas development aid varies from year to year and from country to country, but 6.5% of gross national income is about typical. Food production on the continent has kept pace with population for a generation. About 0.1% of the population of Tropical Africa is European. The vast majority of whites live in the temperate and subtropical zones in South Africa and Namibia. By and large, they dig their own latrines, cultivate their own fields, and staff their own schools.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Corvinus
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Except the infrastructure built was meant for the colonizers, not the natives. Refer to this example.

    https://voxeu.org/article/how-colonial-railroads-defined-africa-s-economic-geography

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Athletic and Whitesplosive

  115. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Bullshi$

    Japan doesn't need Vietnamese workers. A racially homogeneous society can overcome almost any obstacle - except permanent invasion (and, yes, immigration is invasion) of another people. First off, Japan's per capita GDP growth is just fine, not that we should worship at the alter of the great god Economy, but it's a point that people should understand.

    Second, if some older Japanese don't get as much care as we in the West would like, too bad. Grandpa not getting a personal nurse isn't worth destroying your society by bringing in foreigners. Also, maybe it'll show young Japanese the value of having family around you.

    Speaking of family, yes, Japan has a very low birthrate. So what? Everything is fixable - if you don't bring in foreigners to destroy your society. (Israel gets this, Jack, as you are well aware.) Let nature take its course. People who don't want children will slowly leave the gene pool. Those that do want children will have children who by their nature will be more inclined to have children. In addition, those children will have less competition for housing and job and thus will be able to afford . . . more children. The birthrate will rebound.

    Unless, of course, you follow the Jack D recommendation - interestingly, rejected by Israel and not recommended by Israel by Jack D - of inviting foreigner workers into your country. But, but, but, Jack says, I only mean as temporary workers, just like the Turks in Germany or Mexicans working the fields in California. Oh wait, he says, nevermind.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I don’t make any recommendations to the Japanese, nor are they asking me.

    Israel, BTW, has lots of guest workers. Every elderly Holocaust survivor lady has a Filipino caretaker paid for by her rich children who don’t want her living with them. Not to mention Chinese agricultural workers and Africans who snuck in before they beefed up the fences, etc. The idea that American Jews are hypocritical because they don’t support the same policies for America that they support for Israel is idiotic. First of all, Liberal American Jews don’t set Israel’s immigration policies. Yes,if it was up to them, the politics of Israel would exactly match the politics of the Upper West Side, but it’s not up to them. It’s hard to say whether they hate Trump or Netanyahu more (and the feeling is mutual).

    2nd, Israel is not at all the ethnic monostate straw horse that people are beating here. Israel is WILDLY diverse, not just among Jewish groups (who themselves range from bearded Hasidim to tatooed hipsters to Ethiopian tribesmen to blond Russians who aren’t really Jewish at all) but because it has large non-Jewish minorities of Arabs and Druze, not to mention all the immigrant workers.

    If you are looking for an ethnic monostate, you have to look at somewhere like Poland, where, thanks to the highly thorough Germans, Poland is now ethnically pure beyond the wildest dreams of the pre-war Polish nationalists. Although even that is starting to fray around the edges – the last time I was in Warsaw I passed a Nigerian restaurant and had lunch at a restaurant run by a Korean woman whose family ended up in the Soviet Union (to this day N. Korea sends guest workers for cash). The restaurant was smack in the middle of what used to be the former Warsaw Ghetto.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/foreign-workers-in-israel

    Israel has about 100,000 guest workers (out of a population of 8 million). There are about 150,000 illegal aliens.


    I think as of now, about 75% of the population is Jewish, 20% Arab, and 5% other. Those in the last category are commonly relatives of Jews.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D


    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well.
     
    That may not be a recommendation, but it's not far off.

    2nd, Israel is not at all the ethnic monostate straw horse that people are beating here.
     
    No one is claiming that Israel is some perfect ethno-state. The reason that we like Israel is because it proudly states that its the home of the Jews and that it's going to stay that way. It also pushes very hard to increase its Jewish population while lowering its non-Jewish population. That's what we like about Israel.

    No country is ever 100% one race or ethnicity and even if we close, there's a tremendous variety within a race or ethnicity. What we want is a country is that proudly states we are the home of (fill in the blank) white ethnic group, maybe even American white, though we're wildly diverse as well.

    Btw, Israel is possibly the one country that I'd bet could actually make a guest worker program work because, you know, it's official policy and what's promoted by its schools and leaders is that Israel is the Jewish states so you can come and work but then you have to get fuc* out!

    The idea that American Jews are hypocritical because they don’t support the same policies for America that they support for Israel is idiotic.
     
    Seriously, you can dislike me, but at least show me the respect of not pissing on my head and tell me it's raining.

    First of all, Liberal American Jews don’t set Israel’s immigration policies. Yes,if it was up to them, the politics of Israel would exactly match the politics of the Upper West Side, but it’s not up to them.
     
    That's utter BS. Outside of the very rare exceptions (I'm talking about Asians in the NBA rare), American Jews are massively and overtly supportive of Israel. It's their homeland, after all. They may not like Netanyahu, but they sure as shit love Israel. And they never bring up Israel's immigration policy, ever.

    Upper West Jews have enormous influence in politics, media, finance and academia. Upper West Jews have enormous interest in Israel. It would follow that they'd be making a huge stink (because they are extremely good at making huge stinks) about Israel's policy of being an ethno-state if they disapproved. Yet crickets.

    You always mess with my head, Jack. You're obviously bright, well-read, well-traveled and often thoughtful. But you have a blind spot that absolutely terrifies me. I could see you rationalizing the end of my people. I guess I know how many Jews feel about gentile whites.
  116. @Rosie

    Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.
     
    My sense is that where women have no political power, young men have no political power. Women's (socialist) influence tends to enhance the wellbeing and prospects of young men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Sean, @Anonymous, @anonymous

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/14/usa.julianborger

    Up to 1,000 teenage boys have been separated from their parents and thrown out of their communities by a polygamous sect to make more young women available for older men, Utah officials claim.
    Many of these “Lost Boys”, some as young as 13, have simply been dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah, by the leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.

    According to Chagnon, the Yanomami went on women stealing expeditions.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Sean

    1st of all, this article is from 2005 - I don't know whether the situation has gotten better or worse since then, but either way it's a pretty stale story.

    Cult leader Jeffs is currently serving a life sentence in Federal prison and doesn't seem to be adapting well to the zero wife life:

    https://www.gosanangelo.com/story/news/2019/08/13/lawyer-flds-leader-warren-jeffs-has-mental-breakdown/1999433001/

    2nd this has more to do with the dangers of a polygamous society to young men than a recommendation for rule by females as Rosie makes. The article doesn't mention that the women of these sects are unhappy with the arrangement. In fact I think many women would prefer to have a share of a rich and powerful older man's time rather than an exclusive arrangement with a young and poor loser. They might even prefer living with cats to the latter arrangement.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie

    , @Rosie
    @Sean


    Many of these “Lost Boys”, some as young as 13, have simply been dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah, by the leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.
     
    Women fare badly with polygamy. Young men fare even worse.

    Replies: @Sean

  117. @Sean
    @Rosie


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/14/usa.julianborger

    Up to 1,000 teenage boys have been separated from their parents and thrown out of their communities by a polygamous sect to make more young women available for older men, Utah officials claim.
    Many of these "Lost Boys", some as young as 13, have simply been dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah, by the leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.
     
    According to Chagnon, the Yanomami went on women stealing expeditions.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Rosie

    1st of all, this article is from 2005 – I don’t know whether the situation has gotten better or worse since then, but either way it’s a pretty stale story.

    Cult leader Jeffs is currently serving a life sentence in Federal prison and doesn’t seem to be adapting well to the zero wife life:

    https://www.gosanangelo.com/story/news/2019/08/13/lawyer-flds-leader-warren-jeffs-has-mental-breakdown/1999433001/

    2nd this has more to do with the dangers of a polygamous society to young men than a recommendation for rule by females as Rosie makes. The article doesn’t mention that the women of these sects are unhappy with the arrangement. In fact I think many women would prefer to have a share of a rich and powerful older man’s time rather than an exclusive arrangement with a young and poor loser. They might even prefer living with cats to the latter arrangement.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    For a woman a small interest in a high wattage alpha male to finance and fertilize her makes sense but the reverse certainly is not true. So for society at large, it sucks, since males and females exist in roughly equal ratios. It’s also generally a bad arrangement for the kids.

    Ghetto black females are financed by the state and fertilized by random pseudo alpha males. Detroit and St. Louis are the result. I think a previous commenter got it right: when we collapse whoever takes us over will simply round up and dispatch the ten or twenty percent of underclass black males that cause the trouble (most underclass blacks are too fat and lazy, they just cash welfare and eat). The remainder will be offered more gibs to be sterilized or leave the country.

    The smarter and harder working blacks in America could be a big asset for the Chinese as they take Africa over, since they are far smarter than average SSA’s and could make a manageable oversubclass. They still have greater resistance to African diseases then Chinese or whites.

    , @Rosie
    @Jack D


    2nd this has more to do with the dangers of a polygamous society to young men than a recommendation for rule by females as Rosie makes.
     
    I made no such recommendation. As usual, you reduce an argument for power-sharing to an argument for female supremacy. If a straw man is all you've got, you go with it, I guess.


    In fact I think many women would prefer to have a share of a rich and powerful older man’s time rather than an exclusive arrangement with a young and poor loser.
     
    The usual self-justifying bullshit of rich old men.
  118. @miss marple
    What about an article on the 9/11 memorializing that "extends and evolves"? A few years of incessant rudeness, blatant disregard for law and morality out of New Yorkers and now we're to have a day of sacred meditations on how 3k New Yorkers lost their lives nearly 20 years ago. I'm not suggesting those people don't matter but rather protesting the complete lack of perspective. Countries such as France, England, Spain and Germany have endured numerous terrorist attacks, so many they couldn't memorialize them all nor select some to remember while ignoring others. Then there's the issue of the passage of time. Kids who were born in 2001 have graduated high school. Furthermore, I don't believe Pearl Harbor was being focused on to this extent as late as the early 60s. Eighteen years of repetition of strategies and fear mongering propaganda keep the US trapped in an infinite loop. And all we have to show for it is trillion dollar debt, a rising body count and a surveillance state that probably isn't going away ever. 9/11 should be a speck of the distant past in our collective rearview mirror not an anchoring point and a rallying cry. Why are we stuck in that moment?

    Replies: @Charon, @Known Fact

    Why are we stuck in that moment? Because it serves the ruling class.

  119. @Reg Cæsar

    Yet. Seventy-five percent of the 30 million Ghanians say they’d emigrate if they could.
     
    Pew Research polled 30 million pepole? Where did they get the funds? Only 17 million are adults. How did they ask that wide base of the population pyramid under age five?

    Please be more careful in phrasing things like this...

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/ghana-population/

    Hell, it's not a pyramid, it's a Hershey's Kiss:


    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/ghana-population-pyramid-2016.gif


    https://i1.wp.com/personalsuccesstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hershey-kiss.jpg


    Germany comes right after Ghana alphabetically:

    https://www.indexmundi.com/graphs/population-pyramids/germany-population-pyramid-2016.gif

    Perhaps war is the answer. This is Germany's in 1950:


    https://images.populationpyramid.net/capture/?selector=%23pyramid-share-container&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.populationpyramid.net/germany/1950/%3Fshare%3Dtrue


    Smith emphasizes that African immigrants aren’t motivated solely by dire need—most of the migrants are from the upper-income ranges and can set aside thousands of dollars to finance a trip.
     
    A Somali colleague instructed me never to accept a sob story from an African traveler. If he could fly to North America, he was by definition well-off by the standards of his homeland.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Mr McKenna, @Jack D, @Peter Johnson

    That is not how statistical polling works. You do not ask all 30 million people individually to find out how they feel and then take an average! The pollster gathers a random representative sample and computes the average of the large sample. The law of large numbers is used to claim that the poll average is very close statistically to the true average. Similarly, when you claim “this room is 72 degree Fahrenheit” you have not measured all five hundred trillion air molecules in the room — you used the law of large numbers and a thermometer to approximate the true population value!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Johnson

    We all know how polling works. The point was Steve's choice of words, which could be used against him in a court of jaw.

  120. @Redneck farmer
    Europe, who needs it? Even European leaders seem to ask that.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Even European leaders seem to ask that.

    Au contraire, mon frère, European Leaders say we need even more Europe. But with increasing numbers of actual Europeans stepping out in yellow vests and attempting to block the “progress” being foisted on them, the leadership has no choice but to import the people who will make their vision of Europe work.

  121. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @istevefan

    While I often get frustrated with Steve for not advocating more concrete steps for whites to take as opposed to just debating, the truth is that Steve is doing God's work here. You can bet that he gets angry. Steve knows better than anyone that our world - our people - is being destroyed.

    But I suspect that he keeps control of himself and soldiers on because the majority of whites are still brainwashed. They need to be gently led - through logic and humor - to our side of the "Great Divide" as Z-Man calls it. That won't happen if Steve lets all of this get to him.

    Regarding politics, Steve has often said that he's best in the role of competent right-hand man, helping guide men who want to be out front. Steve would a Stephen Miller type. But Steve can do much more good here than trying to control some Trump.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    Steve and Ron are fantastic for red pilling normies who aren’t ready for sterner stuff yet. But his humour and intelligence can win over many Whites. I see many new names of people posting here and we know the traffic of Unz is growing.

    But if you, or anyone else, is ready to start talking strategy I recommend The Daily Stormer

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @Johnny Smoggins


    But if you, or anyone else, is ready to start talking strategy I recommend The Daily Stormer
     
    I hope you are not serious.

    We need race realism, which this site provides; we need people to be informed, and to let that education determine how they vote. That is sufficient. If there is no one suitable to vote for, then political organization will be necessary.

    The Stormer's race hatred and malicious overstatement are counterproductive. Most Americans or Europeans are never going to vote for a racist party, and they recognize a lunatic when they see one.

    Instead, let's have an evidence-based discussion of immigration, Jewish power, the Deep State, and the parts of our history that have been shoved down the memory hole. Ask why things are the way they are. Never stop questioning. As the readership of this site grows, the ideas discussed here will enter the mainstream.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @J.Ross
    @Johnny Smoggins

    What could federal agents and ADL natterers possibly know about "strategy"?

  122. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    Let’s not exaggerate. White women don’t like Africans that much. No one does, including Africans. Desperate white males are more likely to go dumpster diving.

  123. @Old Palo Altan
    @peterike

    In twenty years there won't be any "here" here.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Where you come from is gone. Where you thought you were going to weren’t never there. And where you are ain’t no good unless you can get away from it.”

  124. @Jack D
    @FunThymes

    Sure they'd love to do this but the Comac C919 (their answer to the 737) is a last generation aircraft that is just coming into production now. Part of the problem with stealing technology is that you always end up stealing the previous generation - Stalin made a huge effort to copy the B-29 rivet for rivet but by the time it was done, prop planes were obsolete and jets were coming in, so it was largely a waste of time and effort.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AnonymousF

    All subsequent Tupolev bombers show their B-29 heritage clearly.

  125. Anonymous[782] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.
     
    My sense is that where women have no political power, young men have no political power. Women's (socialist) influence tends to enhance the wellbeing and prospects of young men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Sean, @Anonymous, @anonymous

    It’s the exact opposite.

    The positive feedback centralization of social policy is an expansion of the feminine principle. It is driven first by feminized men, such as kings who are shielded by “champions” such as “The King’s Champion” from single combat and, ultimately, by the police. Then, these feminized men use their high social status as faux “alphas” to sexually appeal to the baser instincts of women. They give women power over the men in their lives — men who are powerless to challenge the high status men to single combat. All that the baser instincts of women see are cowardly betas putting up with abuse from everyone, including the women, who then treat them as children at best. This expands the feminine principle of hearth and home to the public square, with the result that social policy is increasingly centralized and feminized.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    This expands the feminine principle of hearth and home to the public square, with the result that social policy is increasingly centralized and feminized.
     
    Which is precisely what is required. Presuffrage England was a hellscape for the working classes.

    All that the baser instincts of women
     
    Lol.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  126. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there’s no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them

    This is a nonsense statement. Employment is not a provision. It's what you get when one person agrees to pay a wage to another for services.


    It’s very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades.

    No, it doesn't take a big effort. People produce fewer children when more of the ones they produce survive, when land tenure arrangements limit bequests subdividing agricultural land, and when they have distractions other than copulating. Every part of the globe outside of Tropical Africa and a half dozen other impoverished loci has experienced a fertility transition during the post-war period, and generally a fairly thorough one. Even Tropical Africa has seen a 30% drop in total fertility rates in the last 40-odd years. Outside of Tropical Africa, there are three countries on the planet where the tfr exceeds 3.9 and about sixteen where it exceeds 2.9; nine of these 19 countries are harmless insular states with small populations overall.

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar

    Even Tropical Africa has seen a 30% drop in total fertility rates in the last 40-odd years.

    Really?

    Black Africa does seem different regarding fertility: “quantity has a quality all its own.”

    To say there is nothing to worry about because “everyone else has done it” is a poor argument.

  127. @Art Deco
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Medical technology can help, but at Africa's level of development, the improved life expectancy is going to come from improved sanitation and nutrition.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @bomag

    …from improved sanitation and nutrition

    Again, this is Western tech enabling the world’s most famous graph.

    One of their successes has been establishing basic literacy as the mode.

    I’m not sure this is apropos of anything. It hasn’t made the place somewhere anyone wants to stay. I guess it allows them to research new places where they can move and displace the locals.

  128. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I don't make any recommendations to the Japanese, nor are they asking me.

    Israel, BTW, has lots of guest workers. Every elderly Holocaust survivor lady has a Filipino caretaker paid for by her rich children who don't want her living with them. Not to mention Chinese agricultural workers and Africans who snuck in before they beefed up the fences, etc. The idea that American Jews are hypocritical because they don't support the same policies for America that they support for Israel is idiotic. First of all, Liberal American Jews don't set Israel's immigration policies. Yes,if it was up to them, the politics of Israel would exactly match the politics of the Upper West Side, but it's not up to them. It's hard to say whether they hate Trump or Netanyahu more (and the feeling is mutual).

    2nd, Israel is not at all the ethnic monostate straw horse that people are beating here. Israel is WILDLY diverse, not just among Jewish groups (who themselves range from bearded Hasidim to tatooed hipsters to Ethiopian tribesmen to blond Russians who aren't really Jewish at all) but because it has large non-Jewish minorities of Arabs and Druze, not to mention all the immigrant workers.

    If you are looking for an ethnic monostate, you have to look at somewhere like Poland, where, thanks to the highly thorough Germans, Poland is now ethnically pure beyond the wildest dreams of the pre-war Polish nationalists. Although even that is starting to fray around the edges - the last time I was in Warsaw I passed a Nigerian restaurant and had lunch at a restaurant run by a Korean woman whose family ended up in the Soviet Union (to this day N. Korea sends guest workers for cash). The restaurant was smack in the middle of what used to be the former Warsaw Ghetto.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/foreign-workers-in-israel

    Israel has about 100,000 guest workers (out of a population of 8 million). There are about 150,000 illegal aliens.

    I think as of now, about 75% of the population is Jewish, 20% Arab, and 5% other. Those in the last category are commonly relatives of Jews.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    So, scaled up to the US population , they'd have 6 million illegal aliens. The US has around 11 million illegal aliens so the Israelis are doing a slightly better job but not by any order of magnitude. I think if you are looking for a country that does a much better job than the US when it comes to illegal workers you should look elsewhere.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  129. @SMK
    @Tiny Duck

    Combined with the invasion of Muslims, it means the end of Europe, culturally and civilizationally, and ultimately white genocide and, ineluctably, a war between Muslims and blacks and probably the triumph of Muslims who will kill blacks or convert them to Islam. The governing-classes and ruling elites of the UK and Western Europe are guilt-ridden, masochistic, and suicidal, even more so then their U.S. counterparts. Ergo, they'll do nothing to stop this invasion and conserve Western Civilization. Will European Civilization survive in Eastern Europe and Russia? Who knows?

    Replies: @SMK

    By “genocide,” I wasn’t implying that whites will be exterminated, en masse, by governments ruled by blacks and Muslims -though I’m sure that myriads of whites will be murdered, especially by Muslims in acts of terrorism that won’t be prosecuted. Whites will go extinct, primarily, through declining birth-rates and micegenation, largely between black men and white females..

  130. Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.

    This, I think, is one of the poisonous fruits of culturally sanctioned polygamy.

  131. OFF TOPIC

    I saw the smoke from the September 11, 2001 attacks from a hill 50 or 60 miles away west of Manhattan.

    When I went to Manhattan a month or two later the rubble was still smoking and they were using wrecking drop demolition machines to remove the rubble.

    Tweet from 2015:

  132. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Sean

    1st of all, this article is from 2005 - I don't know whether the situation has gotten better or worse since then, but either way it's a pretty stale story.

    Cult leader Jeffs is currently serving a life sentence in Federal prison and doesn't seem to be adapting well to the zero wife life:

    https://www.gosanangelo.com/story/news/2019/08/13/lawyer-flds-leader-warren-jeffs-has-mental-breakdown/1999433001/

    2nd this has more to do with the dangers of a polygamous society to young men than a recommendation for rule by females as Rosie makes. The article doesn't mention that the women of these sects are unhappy with the arrangement. In fact I think many women would prefer to have a share of a rich and powerful older man's time rather than an exclusive arrangement with a young and poor loser. They might even prefer living with cats to the latter arrangement.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie

    For a woman a small interest in a high wattage alpha male to finance and fertilize her makes sense but the reverse certainly is not true. So for society at large, it sucks, since males and females exist in roughly equal ratios. It’s also generally a bad arrangement for the kids.

    Ghetto black females are financed by the state and fertilized by random pseudo alpha males. Detroit and St. Louis are the result. I think a previous commenter got it right: when we collapse whoever takes us over will simply round up and dispatch the ten or twenty percent of underclass black males that cause the trouble (most underclass blacks are too fat and lazy, they just cash welfare and eat). The remainder will be offered more gibs to be sterilized or leave the country.

    The smarter and harder working blacks in America could be a big asset for the Chinese as they take Africa over, since they are far smarter than average SSA’s and could make a manageable oversubclass. They still have greater resistance to African diseases then Chinese or whites.

  133. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    Mugabe was known for being a bookish nerd who took correspondence courses during prison and whose primary indulgence until he met his second wife was flying into London incognito to browse the bookstores there:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/mugabe-died-late/597616/

    A teacher by training, he spent his imprisonment in near-constant study, earning degrees in law and administration from the University of London by correspondence. It is said that even while president of Zimbabwe, he sometimes flew to London secretly to browse new titles at Dillons, a huge bookstore in Bloomsbury.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Anonymous

    He was a rabid Anglophile. He was also a pious Catholic. He was not known to have had mistresses with his first wife until she was near death. This is unheard of among big African men.

    That’s when he took up with his 2nd wife, after pleading from his mother for grandchildren. The only child he and his first wife had died.

  134. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    Learn to code sandwiches.

  135. anon[298] • Disclaimer says:

    “Before you brush your teeth in the morning, recite this question three times: “What am I doing?””

    Unfortunately, conservatives have displayed a remarkable inability to do even that. They are poorly organized and, from what I’m seeing, resistant to organizing any kind of significant push back even in their own personal lives; several Unz commenters have remarked, in shock, at this state of affairs. I think, perhaps, conservatives are trying to preserve a system that has lost legitimacy in the modern world as circumstances have changed – individual liberty. You can’t preserve a philosophy of liberty and personal space against an relentless, fanatical enemy determined to deny you both because they think you are a bad person deserving of punishment merely for existing.

    Conservatives also consider themselves good people. As such, they are desperate to be considered “good people” by others, including the radical left. That’s a mistake. Many leftists are dangerous, hate-filled authoritarians, the kinds of people who gleefully shot princess Anastasia and thought it “thrilling”. Normie: How could they do that? It was so wrong. Well, bad people deserve punishment, so nothing is immoral when punishing “bad people”. Right?

    Although, maybe I’m misreading the situation. Gillette suffered an $8 billion dollar loss after their offensive anti-male ads. That’s promising. With hope, it will continue. But I suspect not. Conservatives are hampered by morality and blind patriotism. Fundamentally, they are desperate to be considered good people by their enemies. But they shouldn’t care. Their enemies view them as bad people, so conservatives / normies should be willing to return the favor in kind.

    Conservatives also aren’t so good at thinking outside the box, either. Even some of the former alt-right types I’ve read recently have adopted a policy of sitting back and doing nothing. That’s foolish. Sure, street demonstrations won’t accomplish anything and the establishment will try co-opting your efforts, but doing nothing assures defeat. Historically, when systems collapse, the party that sowed the seeds of a new order best beforehand came out on top in the aftermath. Lenin and other communists laid the foundations for the Russian Revolution before the disaster of WWI; same with Germany’s National Socialists before the Great Depression; etc. Probably your best bet is to promote a well-articulated and plausible alternative to the reigning order; discrediting gatekeepers on the right will also help. Once that order loses legitimacy – maybe during a currency crisis, debt crisis, or a major war – you can seize power and impose a new order.

    I also think running for office under the current paradigm is probably a lost cause. Doing so implicitly requires participants to adhere to established rules that won’t rock the boat in the end, regardless of who gets elected. If, in contrast, Unz ran on a platform in California of 1) breaking up north California from south California OR 2) getting rid of California’s white patriarchy of Gavin Newsom and the Bay Area* by stoking lower-class white, Hispanic, and black resentments (an anti-Bolsonaro but with similar tactics), maybe some fireworks happen.

    *Subsidized housing in rich white, left-wing areas; abolishing upperclass, non-religious, private schools and integrating public schools with white liberals through forced busing; increased minimum wage; higher taxes on corporations that are in no danger of leaving California (Hollywood) with the explicit aim of providing lower cost college education; maybe a jobs program for the poor/middle-class through expanding the California National Guard; forced public transportation systems in upper-class areas, justified with their own rhetoric on climate change; etc. Until conservatives are willing to abandon philosophical principle for the opportunity to ruin their white rivals and rub it in their faces, nothing will change. You should be raising their taxes, not cutting them.

  136. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Japanese call their future population distribution "the coffin" - it keeps getting wider all the way up to the shoulders before tapering at the head. In some projection the "shoulder" is going to be like in the age 80-85 group, which will be the largest age cohort. No society has every existed like this before.

    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well. They are going to have to something - you can run a society off of 80 year old workers. There are many tasks where most of them no longer have the physical or mental strength to carry them out.

    Replies: @Sean, @Chrisnonymous, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @J.Ross

    Funny, a while before Jack D and the fraudulent Jake Adelstein and the media-favored economists insisted that Japan simply needs foreigners, the stories out of Japan were about stagnation and lack of opportunities for young Japanese people.

  137. @Jack D
    @FunThymes

    Sure they'd love to do this but the Comac C919 (their answer to the 737) is a last generation aircraft that is just coming into production now. Part of the problem with stealing technology is that you always end up stealing the previous generation - Stalin made a huge effort to copy the B-29 rivet for rivet but by the time it was done, prop planes were obsolete and jets were coming in, so it was largely a waste of time and effort.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AnonymousF

    Russia would do well to capitalize on exporting retro stuff-vacuum tubes,radial engine trainers and bush planes, etc-for which there is actually some demand. They don’t seem able to not screw that up though.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnonymousF

    In business, having a decent product is not enough. You have to have sales, marketing, customer support, etc. If you want to sell you product in a foreign market you have to do all of those things in a foreign language and tailor your way of doing them (as well as the product itself) to the foreigner's cultural expectations. The Japanese seemed to have grasped this instinctively and the Germans too. Russians for some reason can never seem to learn how to do this, nor do they seem particularly interested in learning how either. Russians are not dumb people but their mind does not run in a salesman's groove. Sometimes it appears as if they are completely indifferent to making a sale and sure as hell are not going to change their way of doing things to please you. If you beg them enough they may take your money but that's as far as they will go. I used to think that this was just part of the incentive destroying/shortage creating aspect of Communism - the DMV lady doesn't care if you buy a set of license plates or not either, but I think it runs deeper than that.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  138. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages “deserve” special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough – the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, “white privilege” is a thing but “powerful woman’s privilege” is not.

    The annals of Chinese history, having been written by dead yellow men, are replete with the dangers to the throne posed by grasping empresses and concubines and the associated train of in-laws. While it’s unclear how much of this was real, given the homily-driven narrative of Chinese historical accounts, it was a recurrent theme.

  139. @eah
    In July a video showing approx 1000 Africans, mostly young/working-age men, streaming off a train in the small German town of Ashausen (pop 3800) appeared -- using privacy grounds, this video was quickly deleted (eg by YouTube), but it can still be found (links below) -- the scene was eyebrow-raising, to say the least -- authorities provided the following explanation:

    Bei den Schwarzafrikanern handelt es sich um Mitarbeiter von Amazon, die regelmäßig am Bahnhof Ashausen eintreffen und anschließend mit einem Shuttlebus zu ihrem Arbeitsplatz gefahren werden.
     
    They work for Amazon (probably refugees), and get off the train in Ashausen to take a shuttle bus -- AMZN does have a Logistikzentrum nearby in Winsen (link).

    Stories about this:

    Video no longer available -- Ashausen: 1000 Schwarzafrikaner strömen aus einem Zug

    Video currently available here (same article, different website) -- Ashausen: Unzählige Schwarzafrikaner strömen aus einem Zug

    The video can also still be seen on Facebook here --> link

    Below a screenshot from the video (showing one of the Africans approaching the woman making the video; he demands she stop and delete it) -- also a map showing Ashausen and Winsen (both are about an hour south of Hamburg).

    https://i.postimg.cc/G3JZ3qfM/Ashausen.png
    https://i.postimg.cc/1RCL2MYb/Ashausen-Winsen.png

    Replies: @El Dato

    “Due to the generosity of Amazon, your daily allowance of chocolate people has been increased to 1000.”

    Praise be!

  140. @Jane Plain
    Google:


    #XenophobiaSouthAfrica

    and

    "Nigeria South Africa shoprite"

    Get your sick bag ready.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Get your sick bag ready.

    Nah. It’s just a good old pogrom, though messily continent-wide. Apparently “racism” is not exclusively a non-jewish-white on black-and-jews thing? Who would have thunk it.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @El Dato

    This thread has nothing to do with Jews, yet you managed to drag in the subject.

    What a bunch of reeking bottom-feeders.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  141. @Paleo Liberal
    OT:

    I still vividly remember 18 years ago today in NYC. The clear blue skies which were suddenly black with smoke. Ashes falling out of the sky even out in Brooklyn. Some friends who had just left jobs in the WTC, or were off that day, or late to work. Others who weren’t so lucky.

    One of my kids was stuck in Lower Manhattan for a few days after some people did something. She was about 1 1/2 at the time. Now a sophomore in college. She has had some respiratory problems off and on since then, which her siblings never had. Is is because it runs in the family, or because the government lied about all the poison in the air. Or both. We will never know.

    Remember there was a time after that when we all came together, liberals and conservatives, people of all colors and creeds, American born and immigrants. For a brief moment we could all just be Americans and support each other.

    I have nothing else to say about anything else today. I wish all my fellow Americans the best of everything. Never forget and never let it happen again.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @notsaying, @Harry Baldwin

    Today is a bright and sunny day where I am with lots of white billowy clouds. As I recall, that day in Manhattan was cloudless or the next thing to it.

    The years have passed and we still have Muslim fighters around the world, including in Afghanistan. I don’t know what can be done to get them out of there. I’m not sure anybody knows that. I don’t think our continued presence there is helping to actually fix things but I hate the idea of a Taliban takeover; they already have control 50% of the country so I am not hopeful the Afghans would win back territory if we would leave now.

    There’s just no easy answers. I think we should be focusing on our many needs here and try to stop chasing shadows around the world at the cost of billions per year. We might find that our safety is just as great if we make ourselves stronger here at home.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @notsaying

    "Taliban" don't exist in a vacuum. They are supported by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. India is playing too. If you want to "win" in Afghanistan, you will have have to glass or at least flip off the first two particular mofos. As opposed to giving them billion or helping them bomb in Yemen. Yeah I know, "armament contracts" and "good friends of Israel". Welp. Good luck America!

    The old trope "we must save the women of Afghanistan" which was already in existence around 2005 latest, is back:

    Condoleeza Rice wants the US to stay in Afghanistan, and this time it’s for ‘the women’

    Replies: @J.Ross

  142. Anonymous[821] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean
    @Jack D


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2015/04/01/this-is-no-april-fool-japan-is-beating-the-pants-off-the-united-states/#8299ab25b882
    Take, for instance, the official story that Japan’s national debt represents a world-beating 226 percent of gross domestic product, higher even than that of long-time leader Zimbabwe. Is this figure real? We have no way of independently checking it. All we have the Finance Ministry's say-so.The Finance Ministry, moreover, has a long-term record of special disingenuousness in misleading the West. Frankly if you believe Japan's government finances are in this sort of shape, there is a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to buy. In reality, as the French economist Thomas Piketty has pointed out, the official figure has to have been absurdly pumped up by accounting trickery. (If Japan really had incurred anything like Zimbabwe-style debt, it would long ago have suffered Zimbabwe-like inflation. Instead Japan, in a pattern very similar to Switzerland, has enjoyed rock-solid price stability for generations.)
     
    When the Japanese appear to be committing suicide: watch out!


    https://youtu.be/evHCgsAJRj8?t=45

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @J.Ross

    Fingleton is an idiot, an economic illiterate who can’t read or speak Japanese despite living there for 40 years.

    Japan’s debt is in yen, a currency it controls, and the debt is financed heavily by domestic savings. It has high levels of production hence trade surpluses.

    A lot of Zim’s debt is denominated in foreign currency, which it does not control. Meanwhile, production has declined, leaving lower domestic savings to finance debt, and it has trade deficits. Production has declined, money supply has increased, and Zim currency has flowed out from trade deficits and declined relative to foreign currency, thus there’s been inflation. This is nothing like Japan’s case.

  143. @Tiny Duck
    I know who really like young African Men........

    white girls!

    This is karma for slavery and colonialism

    This is nothing to worry about. It just means better food and more diversity and more equality

    Replies: @Digital Samizdat, @Duke84, @Neoconned, @al gore rhythms, @SMK, @anon, @foulkes

    Those white girls who like African men should be exported to Africa.

  144. @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).
     
    Mugabe was known for being a bookish nerd who took correspondence courses during prison and whose primary indulgence until he met his second wife was flying into London incognito to browse the bookstores there:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/mugabe-died-late/597616/

    A teacher by training, he spent his imprisonment in near-constant study, earning degrees in law and administration from the University of London by correspondence. It is said that even while president of Zimbabwe, he sometimes flew to London secretly to browse new titles at Dillons, a huge bookstore in Bloomsbury.
     

    Replies: @Ed

    He was a rabid Anglophile. He was also a pious Catholic. He was not known to have had mistresses with his first wife until she was near death. This is unheard of among big African men.

    That’s when he took up with his 2nd wife, after pleading from his mother for grandchildren. The only child he and his first wife had died.

  145. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/foreign-workers-in-israel

    Israel has about 100,000 guest workers (out of a population of 8 million). There are about 150,000 illegal aliens.


    I think as of now, about 75% of the population is Jewish, 20% Arab, and 5% other. Those in the last category are commonly relatives of Jews.

    Replies: @Jack D

    So, scaled up to the US population , they’d have 6 million illegal aliens. The US has around 11 million illegal aliens so the Israelis are doing a slightly better job but not by any order of magnitude. I think if you are looking for a country that does a much better job than the US when it comes to illegal workers you should look elsewhere.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    If you just hang everything on undocumentation, sure, but in both Israel and America there are also security concerns: Israel is allowed to deal with theirs and we are not allowed to deal with ours. If we could deal with violent illegals (and those with known criminal records) like Israel, I would be okay with some nonviolent ones slipping through the cracks. And there are no solid figures of course but there can be no doubt that Israeli numbers scaled up to the US would represent a huge improvement over our population replacement program, bigger than you state, and a massive improvement over what President Jeb or Hillary would want.

  146. @Charles Pewitt
    Angry Africans Stuck In Mexico?

    Sounds like a sweet and peaceful Jimmy Buffett song! Get those angry Africans some cerveza before you deport them all back to Africa. Every damn one!

    https://twitter.com/vdare/status/1171599619828174848

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You could probably deport them to Europe.

    Africans on offer by Mexico? Anti-racist EU double combo if you accept!

  147. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I don't make any recommendations to the Japanese, nor are they asking me.

    Israel, BTW, has lots of guest workers. Every elderly Holocaust survivor lady has a Filipino caretaker paid for by her rich children who don't want her living with them. Not to mention Chinese agricultural workers and Africans who snuck in before they beefed up the fences, etc. The idea that American Jews are hypocritical because they don't support the same policies for America that they support for Israel is idiotic. First of all, Liberal American Jews don't set Israel's immigration policies. Yes,if it was up to them, the politics of Israel would exactly match the politics of the Upper West Side, but it's not up to them. It's hard to say whether they hate Trump or Netanyahu more (and the feeling is mutual).

    2nd, Israel is not at all the ethnic monostate straw horse that people are beating here. Israel is WILDLY diverse, not just among Jewish groups (who themselves range from bearded Hasidim to tatooed hipsters to Ethiopian tribesmen to blond Russians who aren't really Jewish at all) but because it has large non-Jewish minorities of Arabs and Druze, not to mention all the immigrant workers.

    If you are looking for an ethnic monostate, you have to look at somewhere like Poland, where, thanks to the highly thorough Germans, Poland is now ethnically pure beyond the wildest dreams of the pre-war Polish nationalists. Although even that is starting to fray around the edges - the last time I was in Warsaw I passed a Nigerian restaurant and had lunch at a restaurant run by a Korean woman whose family ended up in the Soviet Union (to this day N. Korea sends guest workers for cash). The restaurant was smack in the middle of what used to be the former Warsaw Ghetto.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The Japanese are experimenting with bring in Vietnamese workers. It seems to be working out reasonably well.

    That may not be a recommendation, but it’s not far off.

    2nd, Israel is not at all the ethnic monostate straw horse that people are beating here.

    No one is claiming that Israel is some perfect ethno-state. The reason that we like Israel is because it proudly states that its the home of the Jews and that it’s going to stay that way. It also pushes very hard to increase its Jewish population while lowering its non-Jewish population. That’s what we like about Israel.

    No country is ever 100% one race or ethnicity and even if we close, there’s a tremendous variety within a race or ethnicity. What we want is a country is that proudly states we are the home of (fill in the blank) white ethnic group, maybe even American white, though we’re wildly diverse as well.

    Btw, Israel is possibly the one country that I’d bet could actually make a guest worker program work because, you know, it’s official policy and what’s promoted by its schools and leaders is that Israel is the Jewish states so you can come and work but then you have to get fuc* out!

    The idea that American Jews are hypocritical because they don’t support the same policies for America that they support for Israel is idiotic.

    Seriously, you can dislike me, but at least show me the respect of not pissing on my head and tell me it’s raining.

    First of all, Liberal American Jews don’t set Israel’s immigration policies. Yes,if it was up to them, the politics of Israel would exactly match the politics of the Upper West Side, but it’s not up to them.

    That’s utter BS. Outside of the very rare exceptions (I’m talking about Asians in the NBA rare), American Jews are massively and overtly supportive of Israel. It’s their homeland, after all. They may not like Netanyahu, but they sure as shit love Israel. And they never bring up Israel’s immigration policy, ever.

    Upper West Jews have enormous influence in politics, media, finance and academia. Upper West Jews have enormous interest in Israel. It would follow that they’d be making a huge stink (because they are extremely good at making huge stinks) about Israel’s policy of being an ethno-state if they disapproved. Yet crickets.

    You always mess with my head, Jack. You’re obviously bright, well-read, well-traveled and often thoughtful. But you have a blind spot that absolutely terrifies me. I could see you rationalizing the end of my people. I guess I know how many Jews feel about gentile whites.

  148. @notsaying
    @Paleo Liberal

    Today is a bright and sunny day where I am with lots of white billowy clouds. As I recall, that day in Manhattan was cloudless or the next thing to it.

    The years have passed and we still have Muslim fighters around the world, including in Afghanistan. I don't know what can be done to get them out of there. I'm not sure anybody knows that. I don't think our continued presence there is helping to actually fix things but I hate the idea of a Taliban takeover; they already have control 50% of the country so I am not hopeful the Afghans would win back territory if we would leave now.

    There's just no easy answers. I think we should be focusing on our many needs here and try to stop chasing shadows around the world at the cost of billions per year. We might find that our safety is just as great if we make ourselves stronger here at home.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    Replies: @El Dato

    “Taliban” don’t exist in a vacuum. They are supported by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. India is playing too. If you want to “win” in Afghanistan, you will have have to glass or at least flip off the first two particular mofos. As opposed to giving them billion or helping them bomb in Yemen. Yeah I know, “armament contracts” and “good friends of Israel”. Welp. Good luck America!

    The old trope “we must save the women of Afghanistan” which was already in existence around 2005 latest, is back:

    Condoleeza Rice wants the US to stay in Afghanistan, and this time it’s for ‘the women’

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @El Dato

    The one thing that makes me shut up about us still being there: this lets us get close to (and point things at) a much bigger and more important enemy.
    Everything with the Muzzies, in both Afghanistan and Iraq, was an unjustifiable catastrophe which makes the British Empire look like a model of diplomacy and efficiency, but at least there we are being near to China.

  149. @miss marple
    Increasingly, those young African males will be stealing the women who might have gone to young incel white males. Are dweebs and nerds headed for extinction? Stay tuned...

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Wilkey, @Johnny Smoggins, @Amerimutt Golems, @Greattit, @Mr. Anon, @Sean, @Clyde, @guest, @J.Ross, @bored identity

    bored identity strongly believes that Tiny Marple failed miserably to diversify zir trollfolio.

  150. @AnonymousF
    @Jack D

    Russia would do well to capitalize on exporting retro stuff-vacuum tubes,radial engine trainers and bush planes, etc-for which there is actually some demand. They don’t seem able to not screw that up though.

    Replies: @Jack D

    In business, having a decent product is not enough. You have to have sales, marketing, customer support, etc. If you want to sell you product in a foreign market you have to do all of those things in a foreign language and tailor your way of doing them (as well as the product itself) to the foreigner’s cultural expectations. The Japanese seemed to have grasped this instinctively and the Germans too. Russians for some reason can never seem to learn how to do this, nor do they seem particularly interested in learning how either. Russians are not dumb people but their mind does not run in a salesman’s groove. Sometimes it appears as if they are completely indifferent to making a sale and sure as hell are not going to change their way of doing things to please you. If you beg them enough they may take your money but that’s as far as they will go. I used to think that this was just part of the incentive destroying/shortage creating aspect of Communism – the DMV lady doesn’t care if you buy a set of license plates or not either, but I think it runs deeper than that.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Have you read Matthew Maly's Russia as it Is? He spends a lot of time on this, and supplies many pre-communist illustrations.
    Poles and Czechs were humiliated by German-speaking princelings, and at Poland's height the Polish peasantry was in a comparable status to Irish peasantry in later centuries, but "deluged" Poles and Czechs still had nobles, intellectuals, craftsmen: under the Mongol Yoke, all Russians were slaves, even nobility, who were introduced to their new status by being made to lie under wooden boards comprising a platform upon which the Mongol delegation held a picnic. Russia is nationally like a really abused kid.

    Replies: @Jack D

  151. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    So, scaled up to the US population , they'd have 6 million illegal aliens. The US has around 11 million illegal aliens so the Israelis are doing a slightly better job but not by any order of magnitude. I think if you are looking for a country that does a much better job than the US when it comes to illegal workers you should look elsewhere.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    If you just hang everything on undocumentation, sure, but in both Israel and America there are also security concerns: Israel is allowed to deal with theirs and we are not allowed to deal with ours. If we could deal with violent illegals (and those with known criminal records) like Israel, I would be okay with some nonviolent ones slipping through the cracks. And there are no solid figures of course but there can be no doubt that Israeli numbers scaled up to the US would represent a huge improvement over our population replacement program, bigger than you state, and a massive improvement over what President Jeb or Hillary would want.

  152. @Corvinus
    “It’s no continent for young men. Why Africa is so biased against the young is uncertain. One theory is that in a region besieged by diseases such as malaria, the sexiest attribute in a husband is a strong immune system, which is most convincingly demonstrated by not dying.”

    You mean currently the continent is not for young men to be in the top position of power, Mr. Sailer. Indeed, the majority of African heads of state are between the ages of 55 and 75, which represents a significant gap between policy makers and policy followers.

    About 14 percent are under 40 years of age when it comes to representatives in their parliaments, which actually is on par with the rest of the world. So perhaps it's no world for young men...

    However, 70 percent of sub-Saharan Africa’s population is under the age of 30. Significant efforts are underway to ensure that the youth will have a seat at the table when it comes to making decisions for their continent. But don’t let the narrative stand in the way of progress.

    https://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/april-2018-july-2018/nurturing-young-leaders

    https://www.usaid.gov/yali

    https://www.counterpart.org/stories/young-leaders-transforming-africa-world/

    “African governments are not terribly careful about collecting vital statistics and even if they were, politics would get in the way of publishing objective censuses.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “During the first two decades of Mugabe’s rule, Zimbabwe’s highly productive white farmers were largely left unmolested.“

    I wonder why. Does our intrepid author put his pattern recognition skills to the test? Not me, says Bil Keane. Per usual, there must be the proper context how these farmers were highly productive and why they were left unmolested before and during Mo Fo Mugabe's reign of terror.

    Prior to 1980, Zimbabe’s white minority dominated the landscape—politically, economically, socially. How did they arrive to this magical (dirt) place? Immigration. From 1891 to 1955, the population went from 1500 to 150,000, with black farmland seized and redistributed to white agriculturists. Fortunately, there were (anti-) whites who opposed such harsh, but required measures. In 1947, Harry Meade unsuccessfully opposed the eviction of his black neighbor, but it was to no avail. Another influx of whites arrived from the 1940’s to the 1970’s, ranging from communist refugees to former military personnel in India. This place was a haven white people, who received generous education and healthcare benefits from the government (can we say socialism). Then, that crooked Mugabe pulled the rug from underneath whitey—who had happily established a separate society—and (poof), their privileges disappeared.

    Of course, the white farmers should not be booted off their property; then again, was it their land in the first place? Remember, colonial-era land grabs meant that the nation’s most productive areas was reserved for white people, with black farmers forced onto marginal areas. Tit for tat? Land reform was focused on redistributing white-owned land to black farmers, to correct colonial wrongs, after Muggin’ Mugabe assured citizens that this process would be slow. But by 2000, amid growing discontent, the colorful Mugabe supported forcible land grabs, which received international condemnation.

    Sometimes it really helps to provide a fuller picture rather than a snapshot.

    https://www.africanews.com/2019/05/16/zimbabwe-pays-64m-to-white-farmers-who-lost-land-under-mugabe//

    "Continental self-defense is such a crazy idea that it just might work."

    Rumor has it that Syrian Shirley Temple, Shumaila Tamer, was coerced by her slavers to sing the Alt Right version of “The Good Ship Lollipop” in broken English for some Rooh Afza. Here is the first verse.

    “I’ve been thrown in the water, really cold it feels
    I will make some noise with real live shrieks and squeals
    Didn’t think I would drown, it’s not neat to sink
    And when I do, how great a trip on this rink a dink-dink”

    “On the Bad Ship, No Bread Crumbs
    It’s a rough trip on the Mare Nostrum
    No boom-boom guns?
    Just sink the damn ships, you Europuns”

    "there are vastly more who will depart for the First World in the future as the African masses modernize enough to contemplate immigrating."

    Migration of peoples is our thang as a human race. Why are we surprised?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @anonymous

    Migration of peoples is our thang as a human race. Why are we surprised?

    Are you serious? Blacks, i.e. Africans never migrated anywhere, seriously, on their own. Sailer is completely right when he divides humanity, re races, to blacks and non-blacks.

    Blacks stick out as the ultimate disaster for every human enterprise.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Bardon Kaldian

    No.

    Blacks did migrate. All over the place.

    Within Africa, the west African people migrated all over SSA, taking over areas which used to be inhabited by other peoples. Some still survive, such as Pygmies and Kalahari Bushmen.

    Other Africans migrated out of Africa long ago.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Corvinus
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "Are you serious? Blacks, i.e. Africans never migrated anywhere, seriously, on their own."

    That would be Fake News. See Paleo Liberal's comment.

    "Sailer is completely right when he divides humanity, re races, to blacks and non-blacks."

    So our resident noticer has exclusive authority over this division? Who granted him this power, YOU?

    "Blacks stick out as the ultimate disaster for every human enterprise".

    Not really.

  153. @Jack D
    @AnonymousF

    In business, having a decent product is not enough. You have to have sales, marketing, customer support, etc. If you want to sell you product in a foreign market you have to do all of those things in a foreign language and tailor your way of doing them (as well as the product itself) to the foreigner's cultural expectations. The Japanese seemed to have grasped this instinctively and the Germans too. Russians for some reason can never seem to learn how to do this, nor do they seem particularly interested in learning how either. Russians are not dumb people but their mind does not run in a salesman's groove. Sometimes it appears as if they are completely indifferent to making a sale and sure as hell are not going to change their way of doing things to please you. If you beg them enough they may take your money but that's as far as they will go. I used to think that this was just part of the incentive destroying/shortage creating aspect of Communism - the DMV lady doesn't care if you buy a set of license plates or not either, but I think it runs deeper than that.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Have you read Matthew Maly’s Russia as it Is? He spends a lot of time on this, and supplies many pre-communist illustrations.
    Poles and Czechs were humiliated by German-speaking princelings, and at Poland’s height the Polish peasantry was in a comparable status to Irish peasantry in later centuries, but “deluged” Poles and Czechs still had nobles, intellectuals, craftsmen: under the Mongol Yoke, all Russians were slaves, even nobility, who were introduced to their new status by being made to lie under wooden boards comprising a platform upon which the Mongol delegation held a picnic. Russia is nationally like a really abused kid.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    I am suspicious of ancient explanations. The Japanese lived under a closed feudal system with very strict rules until the middle of the 19th century. Those with lower status (most people) could be executed on the spot for the most minor offense. Anyone who left the country could never come back on pain of death, even if they were sailors accidentally blown off course by a storm. But they took to modernity like a duck takes to water.

  154. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    The power behind Mugabe's throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife. She only reinforced his dictatorial tendencies and transformed the household of the formerly ascetic socialist leader into a world class consumer of luxury goods (as his country grew poorer and poorer).

    The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true. When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages "deserve" special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption. When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them (and whatever they are getting is still not enough - the debt can never be repaid in full). Hillary Clinton was a prime example of this. Somehow, "white privilege" is a thing but "powerful woman's privilege" is not.

    Replies: @Lot, @Forbes, @anonymous, @William Badwhite, @Anonymous, @Johann Ricke, @Corvinus

    “The power behind Mugabe’s throne (until her Marie Antoinette excesses caused him to be overthrown) was his much younger ex-secretary turned 2nd wife.”

    Sources?

    “The idea that adding women to the political equation somehow makes things better has not been borne out anywhere on earth. Usually the opposite is true.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “When women reach positions of power, they seem especially prone to the idea that they and their families and entourages “deserve” special treatment and wealth unavailable to ordinary mortals which leads to corruption.”

    Replace “women” with “men and women” and you would be accurate.

    “When men steal, at least they know that they are stealing but women always seem to think that they are merely getting what is owed to them”.

    You are making a sweeping generalization.

  155. @Peter Frost
    @istevefan

    Steve can do the most good by doing what he's doing now: writing daily columns. It would be a bad move for him to go into politics at a time when his audience is larger than ever.

    I can see Ron going into politics. He's intelligent and well spoken, and he has enough money. Unfortunately he lacks political acumen. He tends to alienate potential friends, often in the vain hope of winning over potential enemies.

    In any case, the big question is not what Steve is doing. It's what each and everyone of us is doing. Before you brush your teeth in the morning, recite this question three times: "What am I doing?"

    Yeah, yeah. I'm familiar with the reasons for doing nothing: fear of losing your job, fear of what friends might think, fear of physical attack by Antifa ... But there are little things you can do, while keeping a low profile:

    - Don't subscribe to a newspaper if you dislike its ideological content.

    - Don't subscribe to cable TV. Yes, many companies will bundle cable TV with Internet and phone services, but there are ways to unbundle.

    - Don't go to a church that supports causes you don't believe in. If you're afraid of standing up in church and denouncing those causes, then just leave.

    - Don't nod your head in agreement when "friends" say things you disagree with. If you don't want to disagree, say nothing. Don't be a passive accomplice.

    - Don't vote for mainstream conservatives (unless your local candidate is solid on the issues you support). In Canada, DON'T VOTE FOR ANDREW SCHEER. He's a nice guy, but that's his big problem. He will be a lame-duck prime minister from his first day of office. VOTE FOR MAXIME BERNIER.

    - Wherever you live, do your homework and exercise your right to vote.

    Replies: @jeppo

    DON’T VOTE FOR ANDREW SCHEER

    VOTE FOR MAXIME BERNIER

    Rinse and repeat for the next six weeks.

  156. OFF TOPIC

    Scott Greer says:

    As soon as he starts talking about race and immigration, he gets deplatformed.

    What really frightens the establishment?

  157. @anonymous
    Wasn't Kurtz initially a late 19th century Social Justice Warrior? Marlowe was a functionary horrified by the results but unable to offer a rebuttal .

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    Yes, but in the end he came around.

  158. @Jack D
    @Sean

    1st of all, this article is from 2005 - I don't know whether the situation has gotten better or worse since then, but either way it's a pretty stale story.

    Cult leader Jeffs is currently serving a life sentence in Federal prison and doesn't seem to be adapting well to the zero wife life:

    https://www.gosanangelo.com/story/news/2019/08/13/lawyer-flds-leader-warren-jeffs-has-mental-breakdown/1999433001/

    2nd this has more to do with the dangers of a polygamous society to young men than a recommendation for rule by females as Rosie makes. The article doesn't mention that the women of these sects are unhappy with the arrangement. In fact I think many women would prefer to have a share of a rich and powerful older man's time rather than an exclusive arrangement with a young and poor loser. They might even prefer living with cats to the latter arrangement.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rosie

    2nd this has more to do with the dangers of a polygamous society to young men than a recommendation for rule by females as Rosie makes.

    I made no such recommendation. As usual, you reduce an argument for power-sharing to an argument for female supremacy. If a straw man is all you’ve got, you go with it, I guess.

    In fact I think many women would prefer to have a share of a rich and powerful older man’s time rather than an exclusive arrangement with a young and poor loser.

    The usual self-justifying bullshit of rich old men.

  159. @Sean
    @Rosie


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/14/usa.julianborger

    Up to 1,000 teenage boys have been separated from their parents and thrown out of their communities by a polygamous sect to make more young women available for older men, Utah officials claim.
    Many of these "Lost Boys", some as young as 13, have simply been dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah, by the leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.
     
    According to Chagnon, the Yanomami went on women stealing expeditions.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Rosie

    Many of these “Lost Boys”, some as young as 13, have simply been dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah, by the leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.

    Women fare badly with polygamy. Young men fare even worse.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Rosie

    The Mormon cult of Jeffs had the men working in 20 hour days running substantial businesses. I suppose the boys who got expelled were those thought assessed as unlikely to bring in more money than they cost. It mound be interesting to know if IQ had been raised by this process.

    Some young men might as well be part of the woodwork, others get all the girls. The trick is to get multiple wives who can support themselves (as with traditional female hoed garden agriculture in West Africa) then you can sit around drinking beer and be rich doing it.

  160. @Anonymous
    @Rosie

    It's the exact opposite.

    The positive feedback centralization of social policy is an expansion of the feminine principle. It is driven first by feminized men, such as kings who are shielded by "champions" such as "The King's Champion" from single combat and, ultimately, by the police. Then, these feminized men use their high social status as faux "alphas" to sexually appeal to the baser instincts of women. They give women power over the men in their lives -- men who are powerless to challenge the high status men to single combat. All that the baser instincts of women see are cowardly betas putting up with abuse from everyone, including the women, who then treat them as children at best. This expands the feminine principle of hearth and home to the public square, with the result that social policy is increasingly centralized and feminized.

    Replies: @Rosie

    This expands the feminine principle of hearth and home to the public square, with the result that social policy is increasingly centralized and feminized.

    Which is precisely what is required. Presuffrage England was a hellscape for the working classes.

    All that the baser instincts of women

    Lol.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Rosie

    The expansion of suffrage coincided with the decline of the UK as a world power.

    Feminized societies are hellscapes for men and don't have working classes. Men become layabouts, criminals, or scheme to become one of the minority of alphas. They also don't last, because they're unable to defend themselves against less feminized societies.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Pheasant

  161. @El Dato
    @notsaying

    "Taliban" don't exist in a vacuum. They are supported by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. India is playing too. If you want to "win" in Afghanistan, you will have have to glass or at least flip off the first two particular mofos. As opposed to giving them billion or helping them bomb in Yemen. Yeah I know, "armament contracts" and "good friends of Israel". Welp. Good luck America!

    The old trope "we must save the women of Afghanistan" which was already in existence around 2005 latest, is back:

    Condoleeza Rice wants the US to stay in Afghanistan, and this time it’s for ‘the women’

    Replies: @J.Ross

    The one thing that makes me shut up about us still being there: this lets us get close to (and point things at) a much bigger and more important enemy.
    Everything with the Muzzies, in both Afghanistan and Iraq, was an unjustifiable catastrophe which makes the British Empire look like a model of diplomacy and efficiency, but at least there we are being near to China.

  162. @Sean
    @Jack D


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2015/04/01/this-is-no-april-fool-japan-is-beating-the-pants-off-the-united-states/#8299ab25b882
    Take, for instance, the official story that Japan’s national debt represents a world-beating 226 percent of gross domestic product, higher even than that of long-time leader Zimbabwe. Is this figure real? We have no way of independently checking it. All we have the Finance Ministry's say-so.The Finance Ministry, moreover, has a long-term record of special disingenuousness in misleading the West. Frankly if you believe Japan's government finances are in this sort of shape, there is a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to buy. In reality, as the French economist Thomas Piketty has pointed out, the official figure has to have been absurdly pumped up by accounting trickery. (If Japan really had incurred anything like Zimbabwe-style debt, it would long ago have suffered Zimbabwe-like inflation. Instead Japan, in a pattern very similar to Switzerland, has enjoyed rock-solid price stability for generations.)
     
    When the Japanese appear to be committing suicide: watch out!


    https://youtu.be/evHCgsAJRj8?t=45

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous, @J.Ross

    >Fingleton depending on Piketty
    If only there were a way to include Malcolm Gladwell, Black Science Man, and Theranos Girl in a Voltron of pseudo-intelligent hackery.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @J.Ross


    Fingleton is an idiot, an economic illiterate who can’t read or speak Japanese despite living there for 40 years
     
    Sounds like Japanese is the language of economic literacy!

    Replies: @J.Ross

  163. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Corvinus


    Migration of peoples is our thang as a human race. Why are we surprised?
     
    Are you serious? Blacks, i.e. Africans never migrated anywhere, seriously, on their own. Sailer is completely right when he divides humanity, re races, to blacks and non-blacks.

    Blacks stick out as the ultimate disaster for every human enterprise.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Corvinus

    No.

    Blacks did migrate. All over the place.

    Within Africa, the west African people migrated all over SSA, taking over areas which used to be inhabited by other peoples. Some still survive, such as Pygmies and Kalahari Bushmen.

    Other Africans migrated out of Africa long ago.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Paleo Liberal

    No African, after Negro race has evolved ca. 8.000-10.000 years ago, ever moved out of nearby sub-Saharan places following their own volition or intention. They cannot be compared with Euro-Asian tribes & peoples, nor with pre-Colombian migrations. So called Bantu expansion was a small fry in comparison with those- in fact, not unlike fried chicken.

  164. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Art Deco

    Quite true . . . and completely irrelevant to my point, which remains correct whether you wish to divert people's attention or not.

    Once again: Africans essentially had zero to do with the increasing lifespan of Africans. If the rest of world disappeared tomorrow, African lifespans would quickly fall to where they were 500 years ago as the infrastructure that we built and paid for fell into disrepair.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Corvinus

    Once again: Africans essentially had zero to do with the increasing lifespan of Africans. If the rest of world disappeared tomorrow, African lifespans would quickly fall to where they were 500 years ago as the infrastructure that we built and paid for fell into disrepair.

    Thanks for the counterfactual. It’s been an education.

    The significance of overseas development aid varies from year to year and from country to country, but 6.5% of gross national income is about typical. Food production on the continent has kept pace with population for a generation. About 0.1% of the population of Tropical Africa is European. The vast majority of whites live in the temperate and subtropical zones in South Africa and Namibia. By and large, they dig their own latrines, cultivate their own fields, and staff their own schools.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Rhodesia wasn't feeding just itself.
    This literally happened in Zimbabwe when they deliberately destroyed the farms: remove white innovation, then suffer. Africa is a large and complex place, and there are pockets of competence, but there's no denying the general truth of the statement. Insofar as modern Africans are doing things right, what are they doing? Skills and methods developed by whites, and taught to them by whites and Chinese. Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Art Deco

  165. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Corvinus


    Migration of peoples is our thang as a human race. Why are we surprised?
     
    Are you serious? Blacks, i.e. Africans never migrated anywhere, seriously, on their own. Sailer is completely right when he divides humanity, re races, to blacks and non-blacks.

    Blacks stick out as the ultimate disaster for every human enterprise.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Corvinus

    “Are you serious? Blacks, i.e. Africans never migrated anywhere, seriously, on their own.”

    That would be Fake News. See Paleo Liberal’s comment.

    “Sailer is completely right when he divides humanity, re races, to blacks and non-blacks.”

    So our resident noticer has exclusive authority over this division? Who granted him this power, YOU?

    “Blacks stick out as the ultimate disaster for every human enterprise”.

    Not really.

  166. @Sean
    @Jack D

    I have read Japan is currently being hurt by Trump's trade war with China, because Japans's economy is so tied to China's now. I think you are operating with old assumptions. Artificial intelligence displacement of wetware workers will happen incredibly fast after the breakthroughs because the next generation algorithms will need only robots. Japan is the world leader in robotics. Japan has more people spending and dying than saving and being born, but so what? Japanese productivity rising faster than the workforce declines seems inevitable and they are on the China bandwagon, which will surely provide them with enough growth. The coming problem will be how to justify letting redundant wetware individuals continue to be viewed as the repository of supreme value. The Japanese never really did view the individual that way.

    Replies: @Lot, @J.Ross

    “I have read Japan is currently being hurt by Trump’s trade war with China”

    Nope. All the rest of east asia is seeing booming US investment and trade. Taiwan, Indonesia, and Vietnam seem to be getting the biggest benefits.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Lot

    Chinese exports to America contain things the Chinese import from Japan. Chinese exports to the US are not only good for China.

  167. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Art Deco

    Quite true . . . and completely irrelevant to my point, which remains correct whether you wish to divert people's attention or not.

    Once again: Africans essentially had zero to do with the increasing lifespan of Africans. If the rest of world disappeared tomorrow, African lifespans would quickly fall to where they were 500 years ago as the infrastructure that we built and paid for fell into disrepair.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Corvinus

    Except the infrastructure built was meant for the colonizers, not the natives. Refer to this example.

    https://voxeu.org/article/how-colonial-railroads-defined-africa-s-economic-geography

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Corvinus

    Yeah man, whenever a Korean stepped inside the belle epoque central train station left by Japanese occupiers, he found himself held in place by an impassible curtain of air.

    , @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @Corvinus

    So the colonizers hoped to profit from building valuable infrastructure, therefore it follows that the Africans could never use or go through the trouble of maintaining it after independance?

    What an insufferable little worm you are.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  168. @TelfoedJohn
    A great article on Rhodesia / Zimbabwe, and all of post-colonial Africa is this by Theodore Dalrymple: https://www.city-journal.org/html/after-empire-12420.html

    It makes this point about the huge social obligations that Africans have. If one member of the family rises to professional prominence, he would still be penniless because his family would start draining money from him. The white doctor and black doctor could live in the same colonial style house, but the African-owned house would rapidly turn into a slum filled with his extended family.

    I would say IQ has a big influence too, since some high IQ Asian countries have high levels of social obligation, and still do well. But those people do even better in more individualistic white countries. You can see social obligation making a difference in more ‘backward’ European countries, with lower economic development and more corruption in the Southern and Eastern parts of Europe... Some in Western Europe idealise the greater family warmth and traditionalism in these countries, but it might come at a cost.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @PV van der Byl

    That is one of Dalrymple’s very best. He traveled throughout Africa and lived and worked in both Rhodesia and South Africa. He knew what he was writing about.

  169. @Corvinus
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Except the infrastructure built was meant for the colonizers, not the natives. Refer to this example.

    https://voxeu.org/article/how-colonial-railroads-defined-africa-s-economic-geography

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    Yeah man, whenever a Korean stepped inside the belle epoque central train station left by Japanese occupiers, he found himself held in place by an impassible curtain of air.

  170. @Sean
    @Jack D

    I have read Japan is currently being hurt by Trump's trade war with China, because Japans's economy is so tied to China's now. I think you are operating with old assumptions. Artificial intelligence displacement of wetware workers will happen incredibly fast after the breakthroughs because the next generation algorithms will need only robots. Japan is the world leader in robotics. Japan has more people spending and dying than saving and being born, but so what? Japanese productivity rising faster than the workforce declines seems inevitable and they are on the China bandwagon, which will surely provide them with enough growth. The coming problem will be how to justify letting redundant wetware individuals continue to be viewed as the repository of supreme value. The Japanese never really did view the individual that way.

    Replies: @Lot, @J.Ross

    How would that even work? The only way I see would be Japanese brands manufacturing in China and hoping to sell in the US. But Vietnam has been ahead of China as a manufacturing choice from before the trade dusputes, and those goods can be sold anywhere else.

  171. @Art Deco
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Once again: Africans essentially had zero to do with the increasing lifespan of Africans. If the rest of world disappeared tomorrow, African lifespans would quickly fall to where they were 500 years ago as the infrastructure that we built and paid for fell into disrepair.

    Thanks for the counterfactual. It's been an education.

    The significance of overseas development aid varies from year to year and from country to country, but 6.5% of gross national income is about typical. Food production on the continent has kept pace with population for a generation. About 0.1% of the population of Tropical Africa is European. The vast majority of whites live in the temperate and subtropical zones in South Africa and Namibia. By and large, they dig their own latrines, cultivate their own fields, and staff their own schools.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Rhodesia wasn’t feeding just itself.
    This literally happened in Zimbabwe when they deliberately destroyed the farms: remove white innovation, then suffer. Africa is a large and complex place, and there are pockets of competence, but there’s no denying the general truth of the statement. Insofar as modern Africans are doing things right, what are they doing? Skills and methods developed by whites, and taught to them by whites and Chinese. Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.

    • Replies: @PV van der Byl
    @J.Ross


    Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.
     
    Many Africans practice slash and burn agriculture because that is actually economically rational in the absence of property rights.

    They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices. It is that the law and secure title must precede all the rest.

    Not so easy to do. Even in the US, property rights face continual erosion.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Pheasant

    , @Art Deco
    @J.Ross

    In re the 'general truth of his statement'.

    1. You make the world disappear like the little kid in The Twilight Zone episode, I'm gonna wager lots of different sorts of places have some adjustment problems.

    2. His statement is predicated on the idea that Africans have no human capital and can acquire none. It sounds perfectly reasonable to a lot of people in this forum. It's kinda nuts.

    3. As noted in a previous discussion, the production statistics indicate that Zimbabwe's had the most mismanaged economy in Africa since 1990, bar two. It's a cherry-picked example.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  172. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    This expands the feminine principle of hearth and home to the public square, with the result that social policy is increasingly centralized and feminized.
     
    Which is precisely what is required. Presuffrage England was a hellscape for the working classes.

    All that the baser instincts of women
     
    Lol.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The expansion of suffrage coincided with the decline of the UK as a world power.

    Feminized societies are hellscapes for men and don’t have working classes. Men become layabouts, criminals, or scheme to become one of the minority of alphas. They also don’t last, because they’re unable to defend themselves against less feminized societies.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    The expansion of suffrage coincided with the decline of the UK as a world power.
     
    So?

    Feminized societies are hellscapes for men and don’t have working classes.
     
    It's not our fault greedy men outsourced your jobs to third world sweatshops.
    , @Pheasant
    @Anonymous

    You are trying to explain biological reality to a woman. All that will happen ia she will take things personally (and in a roundabout way prove the idea that women are less rational than men). I have tried this before it will not succeed. Do not waste your time.

    Replies: @Rosie

  173. @Paleo Liberal
    OT:

    I still vividly remember 18 years ago today in NYC. The clear blue skies which were suddenly black with smoke. Ashes falling out of the sky even out in Brooklyn. Some friends who had just left jobs in the WTC, or were off that day, or late to work. Others who weren’t so lucky.

    One of my kids was stuck in Lower Manhattan for a few days after some people did something. She was about 1 1/2 at the time. Now a sophomore in college. She has had some respiratory problems off and on since then, which her siblings never had. Is is because it runs in the family, or because the government lied about all the poison in the air. Or both. We will never know.

    Remember there was a time after that when we all came together, liberals and conservatives, people of all colors and creeds, American born and immigrants. For a brief moment we could all just be Americans and support each other.

    I have nothing else to say about anything else today. I wish all my fellow Americans the best of everything. Never forget and never let it happen again.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @notsaying, @Harry Baldwin

    I was working in NYC at that time and was there that day too. I share your sentiments.

  174. @miss marple
    What about an article on the 9/11 memorializing that "extends and evolves"? A few years of incessant rudeness, blatant disregard for law and morality out of New Yorkers and now we're to have a day of sacred meditations on how 3k New Yorkers lost their lives nearly 20 years ago. I'm not suggesting those people don't matter but rather protesting the complete lack of perspective. Countries such as France, England, Spain and Germany have endured numerous terrorist attacks, so many they couldn't memorialize them all nor select some to remember while ignoring others. Then there's the issue of the passage of time. Kids who were born in 2001 have graduated high school. Furthermore, I don't believe Pearl Harbor was being focused on to this extent as late as the early 60s. Eighteen years of repetition of strategies and fear mongering propaganda keep the US trapped in an infinite loop. And all we have to show for it is trillion dollar debt, a rising body count and a surveillance state that probably isn't going away ever. 9/11 should be a speck of the distant past in our collective rearview mirror not an anchoring point and a rallying cry. Why are we stuck in that moment?

    Replies: @Charon, @Known Fact

    Believe all that if you must — but admit that 9/11 ceremonies did give us Hillary’s most famous pratfall

  175. @Whiskey
    @miss marple

    I am sure nothing, nothing could go wrong at all with smart, but nerdy White guys being frozen out of everything especially including women.

    Its not as if they could generate WMDs out of stuff like fertilizer. Or could organize to call in a foreign savior like some dude in Russia. Oh no -- its always a good bet to figure that the top dog will see "the little men off" ala the British in Malaya in 1941.

    I figure if dweebs and nerds (today's incels are basically yesterday's normal dudes) are headed for extinction they'll gladly see everyone else out with them.

    What other group of people willingly without great violence handed over most of their women to foreigners? And if there is one thing White men are very, very good at it is killing lots of people.

    But hey, women gotta feelz. And feelz uber alles.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    They do seem to be starting small, ten here, twenty there, thirteen somewhere else. Do they have the capacity to link up and go for thirty, fifty, or a hundred?

  176. @Bugg
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    RBG is 86, Breyer is 81. The Dems know if Trump wins Amy Coney Barrett and someone like her is getting the seat. She is 47.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Reg Cæsar

    Only one of the reasons that Trump will not win.

  177. @Anonymous
    @Rosie

    The expansion of suffrage coincided with the decline of the UK as a world power.

    Feminized societies are hellscapes for men and don't have working classes. Men become layabouts, criminals, or scheme to become one of the minority of alphas. They also don't last, because they're unable to defend themselves against less feminized societies.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Pheasant

    The expansion of suffrage coincided with the decline of the UK as a world power.

    So?

    Feminized societies are hellscapes for men and don’t have working classes.

    It’s not our fault greedy men outsourced your jobs to third world sweatshops.

  178. @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Rhodesia wasn't feeding just itself.
    This literally happened in Zimbabwe when they deliberately destroyed the farms: remove white innovation, then suffer. Africa is a large and complex place, and there are pockets of competence, but there's no denying the general truth of the statement. Insofar as modern Africans are doing things right, what are they doing? Skills and methods developed by whites, and taught to them by whites and Chinese. Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Art Deco

    Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.

    Many Africans practice slash and burn agriculture because that is actually economically rational in the absence of property rights.

    They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices. It is that the law and secure title must precede all the rest.

    Not so easy to do. Even in the US, property rights face continual erosion.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @PV van der Byl

    That's true but of course you must mean property rights being imposed because African democracy will always (and sincerely) follow that advice which is only any good in a cigar shop -- favor your savior, the padron.

    Replies: @Sean

    , @Pheasant
    @PV van der Byl

    'They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices'

    No really many of them are. See Haiti etc.

    And by the way what does it say about a people that they never invented property rights?

    Chicken and egg situation?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco

  179. @El Dato
    @Sean

    Sadly, a Zero is a fighter plane made of balsa and an internal combustion engine and the Murrican Aircraft Carrier is ready for flight deck impacts (going so far as to have fuel not in pipes but in movable fuel tanks; the Japanese had the former, bad idea)

    Side-loading thought: Can you imagine Germans making a Zeichentrickfilm about the enhanced life story of Werner von Braun, his dreams of space flight and his glorious A4? Self-immolation in front of the Reichstag would probably be demanded -- and granted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhHoCnRg1Yw

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  180. @PV van der Byl
    @J.Ross


    Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.
     
    Many Africans practice slash and burn agriculture because that is actually economically rational in the absence of property rights.

    They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices. It is that the law and secure title must precede all the rest.

    Not so easy to do. Even in the US, property rights face continual erosion.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Pheasant

    That’s true but of course you must mean property rights being imposed because African democracy will always (and sincerely) follow that advice which is only any good in a cigar shop — favor your savior, the padron.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @J.Ross

    In traditional African agriculture a man's ability to be a big man and hold more land was dependent on how many more women he could attract to be his wives and do the work.


    Almost everywhere except Senegal,' the report says, 'there is a widespread belief that work can be properly performed only if the worker is bent double and armed with a short-handled hoe. This type of cultural conditioning is an obstacle to the introduction of more comfortable long-handled implements, such as jab planters, since working upright is perceived as laziness.' In Burkina Faso, one women s group said they would like longer handles on their hoes, but their husbands would never allow it
     
  181. @Jack D
    @Sean

    There's no doubt that Japan is a prosperous society but it's also an old society. The example that the author gives that the Japanese increasingly drive Lexuses and not Toyota subcompacts as in the past and travel abroad more is very telling. Old people drive luxury cars and have $ for foreign vacations.

    Japan is not a basket case but it has lost of lot of its edge in many fields. Why is Japan an also ran in the cell phone market? The TV market? The laptop market? Miniature electronics used to be their thing. How did they let the S. Koreans get ahead of them? Sony used to be the king of clever personal electronics. They had no foreign competitors for the Walkman. How did Apple outflank them? How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops? Japan should have been running the huge electronics assembly plants in China, not the Taiwanese. How did the Chinese end up buying out the Japanese LCD manufacturers? Japan was making transistor radios when the Koreans were still getting around in ox carts. This would be like the Mexicans getting ahead of the US in space technology or a Brazilian car company buying Ford.

    Replies: @Lot, @Sean, @Anonymous, @bigdicknick, @Reg Cæsar

    How did the Taiwanese (Foxconn) outflank them in laptops?

    By torturing their mainland workforce and bamboozling officials, Tyson Foods-style, in places like Wisconsin?

  182. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    Educating all these people is only going to make them even more unhappy because there’s no way that the economy of their country is ever going to provide jobs for all of them

    This is a nonsense statement. Employment is not a provision. It's what you get when one person agrees to pay a wage to another for services.


    It’s very easy and natural for a woman to produce 4, 5, 6 or more children in a lifetime. Their bodies are programmed for this. Getting fertility down to 2 or fewer children is a big effort and has to be maintained for decades.

    No, it doesn't take a big effort. People produce fewer children when more of the ones they produce survive, when land tenure arrangements limit bequests subdividing agricultural land, and when they have distractions other than copulating. Every part of the globe outside of Tropical Africa and a half dozen other impoverished loci has experienced a fertility transition during the post-war period, and generally a fairly thorough one. Even Tropical Africa has seen a 30% drop in total fertility rates in the last 40-odd years. Outside of Tropical Africa, there are three countries on the planet where the tfr exceeds 3.9 and about sixteen where it exceeds 2.9; nine of these 19 countries are harmless insular states with small populations overall.

    Replies: @bomag, @Reg Cæsar

    …and when they have distractions other than copulating.

    Well, that writes off Pitcairn Island.

  183. @Bugg
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    RBG is 86, Breyer is 81. The Dems know if Trump wins Amy Coney Barrett and someone like her is getting the seat. She is 47.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Reg Cæsar

    Barrett is an awful pick, irrespective of her age.

  184. @Peter Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar

    That is not how statistical polling works. You do not ask all 30 million people individually to find out how they feel and then take an average! The pollster gathers a random representative sample and computes the average of the large sample. The law of large numbers is used to claim that the poll average is very close statistically to the true average. Similarly, when you claim "this room is 72 degree Fahrenheit" you have not measured all five hundred trillion air molecules in the room -- you used the law of large numbers and a thermometer to approximate the true population value!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    We all know how polling works. The point was Steve’s choice of words, which could be used against him in a court of jaw.

  185. @Bugg
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    RBG is 86, Breyer is 81. The Dems know if Trump wins Amy Coney Barrett and someone like her is getting the seat. She is 47.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @Oleaginous Outrager, @Reg Cæsar

    RBG is 86,

    …and still going to the gym.

  186. anonymous[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @Justvisiting
    @TelfoedJohn


    If one member of the family rises to professional prominence, he would still be penniless because his family would start draining money from him. The white doctor and black doctor could live in the same colonial style house, but the African-owned house would rapidly turn into a slum filled with his extended family.
     
    This extends to the village as well. It is _very_ dangerous to be seen as prosperous in Africa. The children learn at a young age--everything of value must be hidden.

    That is why "black capitalism" has been dead in the water in Africa. Without social trust "progress" is impossible--forever.

    Coming to a country near you...soon.....

    Replies: @anonymous

    Excellent point.

    Gedaliah Braun/ Dr Eugene Valberg (a Jew who lived in Africa for 30 years and has a black wife and black children) makes this point in racism, guilt, self deciet and self deception: Africans are extremely envious and often kill those that try to rise above thier station. It ties in to them being primitive and seeing life as a zero-sum game although to be honest it is more of an instinct.

  187. @Rosie
    @Sean


    Many of these “Lost Boys”, some as young as 13, have simply been dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah, by the leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.
     
    Women fare badly with polygamy. Young men fare even worse.

    Replies: @Sean

    The Mormon cult of Jeffs had the men working in 20 hour days running substantial businesses. I suppose the boys who got expelled were those thought assessed as unlikely to bring in more money than they cost. It mound be interesting to know if IQ had been raised by this process.

    Some young men might as well be part of the woodwork, others get all the girls. The trick is to get multiple wives who can support themselves (as with traditional female hoed garden agriculture in West Africa) then you can sit around drinking beer and be rich doing it.

  188. @Rosie
    @Mr McKenna


    On the other, some of us seem to have surmounted it.
     
    I suspect that is the result of very deep personality preferences not under the conscious control of the individual.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Me personally I am just autistic.

  189. @Rosie

    Broadly speaking, sub-Saharan Africa tends toward gerontocratic cultures in which men are deemed to deserve to accumulate power, money, and wives by outliving their rivals.
     
    My sense is that where women have no political power, young men have no political power. Women's (socialist) influence tends to enhance the wellbeing and prospects of young men.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Sean, @Anonymous, @anonymous

    Good god no. Women prefer the big man system: it is actually the result of their power. Same with polygamy.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @anonymous


    Good god no. Women prefer the big man system: it is actually the result of their power. Same with polygamy.
     
    You know nothing about what women prefer, troll.

    What women think of polygamy at 18:05:

    https://youtu.be/cXCPaCr4pdc

  190. anonymous[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    “It’s no continent for young men. Why Africa is so biased against the young is uncertain. One theory is that in a region besieged by diseases such as malaria, the sexiest attribute in a husband is a strong immune system, which is most convincingly demonstrated by not dying.”

    You mean currently the continent is not for young men to be in the top position of power, Mr. Sailer. Indeed, the majority of African heads of state are between the ages of 55 and 75, which represents a significant gap between policy makers and policy followers.

    About 14 percent are under 40 years of age when it comes to representatives in their parliaments, which actually is on par with the rest of the world. So perhaps it's no world for young men...

    However, 70 percent of sub-Saharan Africa’s population is under the age of 30. Significant efforts are underway to ensure that the youth will have a seat at the table when it comes to making decisions for their continent. But don’t let the narrative stand in the way of progress.

    https://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/april-2018-july-2018/nurturing-young-leaders

    https://www.usaid.gov/yali

    https://www.counterpart.org/stories/young-leaders-transforming-africa-world/

    “African governments are not terribly careful about collecting vital statistics and even if they were, politics would get in the way of publishing objective censuses.”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “During the first two decades of Mugabe’s rule, Zimbabwe’s highly productive white farmers were largely left unmolested.“

    I wonder why. Does our intrepid author put his pattern recognition skills to the test? Not me, says Bil Keane. Per usual, there must be the proper context how these farmers were highly productive and why they were left unmolested before and during Mo Fo Mugabe's reign of terror.

    Prior to 1980, Zimbabe’s white minority dominated the landscape—politically, economically, socially. How did they arrive to this magical (dirt) place? Immigration. From 1891 to 1955, the population went from 1500 to 150,000, with black farmland seized and redistributed to white agriculturists. Fortunately, there were (anti-) whites who opposed such harsh, but required measures. In 1947, Harry Meade unsuccessfully opposed the eviction of his black neighbor, but it was to no avail. Another influx of whites arrived from the 1940’s to the 1970’s, ranging from communist refugees to former military personnel in India. This place was a haven white people, who received generous education and healthcare benefits from the government (can we say socialism). Then, that crooked Mugabe pulled the rug from underneath whitey—who had happily established a separate society—and (poof), their privileges disappeared.

    Of course, the white farmers should not be booted off their property; then again, was it their land in the first place? Remember, colonial-era land grabs meant that the nation’s most productive areas was reserved for white people, with black farmers forced onto marginal areas. Tit for tat? Land reform was focused on redistributing white-owned land to black farmers, to correct colonial wrongs, after Muggin’ Mugabe assured citizens that this process would be slow. But by 2000, amid growing discontent, the colorful Mugabe supported forcible land grabs, which received international condemnation.

    Sometimes it really helps to provide a fuller picture rather than a snapshot.

    https://www.africanews.com/2019/05/16/zimbabwe-pays-64m-to-white-farmers-who-lost-land-under-mugabe//

    "Continental self-defense is such a crazy idea that it just might work."

    Rumor has it that Syrian Shirley Temple, Shumaila Tamer, was coerced by her slavers to sing the Alt Right version of “The Good Ship Lollipop” in broken English for some Rooh Afza. Here is the first verse.

    “I’ve been thrown in the water, really cold it feels
    I will make some noise with real live shrieks and squeals
    Didn’t think I would drown, it’s not neat to sink
    And when I do, how great a trip on this rink a dink-dink”

    “On the Bad Ship, No Bread Crumbs
    It’s a rough trip on the Mare Nostrum
    No boom-boom guns?
    Just sink the damn ships, you Europuns”

    "there are vastly more who will depart for the First World in the future as the African masses modernize enough to contemplate immigrating."

    Migration of peoples is our thang as a human race. Why are we surprised?

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @anonymous

    ‘Of course, the white farmers should not be booted off their property; then again, ‘

    Most land that Mugabe seized was bought by commercial farmers *after,* independence and they had the deeds to prove it. Also much of it was mortgaged by people who thought Zimbabwe would buck the African mean-kind of shows good faith. Still they got thier lesson taught to them.

    Made no difference. By the way it is a terrible idead to convert agribusiness to smallholdings- Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa and Zimbabwe was a basket case printing 100 trillion dollar notes.

  191. @Anonymous
    @Rosie

    The expansion of suffrage coincided with the decline of the UK as a world power.

    Feminized societies are hellscapes for men and don't have working classes. Men become layabouts, criminals, or scheme to become one of the minority of alphas. They also don't last, because they're unable to defend themselves against less feminized societies.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Pheasant

    You are trying to explain biological reality to a woman. All that will happen ia she will take things personally (and in a roundabout way prove the idea that women are less rational than men). I have tried this before it will not succeed. Do not waste your time.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Pheasant


    . All that will happen ia she will take things personally (and in a roundabout way prove the idea that women are less rational than men).
     
    Yes, when you denigrate a person's group, they usually take it personally. There is, of course, nothing whatsoever that is irrational about this. White men take it personally when they are held responsible for anything and everything that is wrong with the world, and they are right to do so.
  192. @PV van der Byl
    @J.Ross


    Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.
     
    Many Africans practice slash and burn agriculture because that is actually economically rational in the absence of property rights.

    They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices. It is that the law and secure title must precede all the rest.

    Not so easy to do. Even in the US, property rights face continual erosion.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Pheasant

    ‘They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices’

    No really many of them are. See Haiti etc.

    And by the way what does it say about a people that they never invented property rights?

    Chicken and egg situation?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Pheasant

    And by the way what does it say about a people that they never invented property rights?

    That they lived in a low-density environment.

    , @Art Deco
    @Pheasant

    No really many of them are. See Haiti etc.

    Per capita income in Jamaica is 5x that in Haiti. That in Barbados is 10x that in Haiti. Definite limits to biological explanations of economic phenomena.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  193. @J.Ross
    @Sean

    >Fingleton depending on Piketty
    If only there were a way to include Malcolm Gladwell, Black Science Man, and Theranos Girl in a Voltron of pseudo-intelligent hackery.

    Replies: @Sean

    Fingleton is an idiot, an economic illiterate who can’t read or speak Japanese despite living there for 40 years

    Sounds like Japanese is the language of economic literacy!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Sean

    I didn't say that (there have been very high level speakers who are still not considered fluent because of ethnicity, and even Nisei are "not quite the same thing"), but since you being it up, that makes an awful lot of sense. Japanese had something like free market capitalism, disposable income, nightlife, consumer goods, fast food, and corporate logos, all arrived at well before opening to the West. Even where these things are argued to be near-universal, the Japanese iteration anticipated the modern better than argued equivalents. We could probably do worse than to embrace some Japanese economic and mercantile terminology, which, safe predictions being good predictions, we already have.
    (But when they debate in school they do it in English because it's much clearer. Japanese could never be a global language like English-reinforced-by-Hollywood, spoken Chinese, pasar Indonesia, or Spanish. And the writing system is like a stunning female -- good thing it's so beautiful because it's massively dumb.)

    Replies: @Sean

  194. @J.Ross
    @PV van der Byl

    That's true but of course you must mean property rights being imposed because African democracy will always (and sincerely) follow that advice which is only any good in a cigar shop -- favor your savior, the padron.

    Replies: @Sean

    In traditional African agriculture a man’s ability to be a big man and hold more land was dependent on how many more women he could attract to be his wives and do the work.

    Almost everywhere except Senegal,’ the report says, ‘there is a widespread belief that work can be properly performed only if the worker is bent double and armed with a short-handled hoe. This type of cultural conditioning is an obstacle to the introduction of more comfortable long-handled implements, such as jab planters, since working upright is perceived as laziness.’ In Burkina Faso, one women s group said they would like longer handles on their hoes, but their husbands would never allow it

  195. @Paleo Liberal
    @Bardon Kaldian

    No.

    Blacks did migrate. All over the place.

    Within Africa, the west African people migrated all over SSA, taking over areas which used to be inhabited by other peoples. Some still survive, such as Pygmies and Kalahari Bushmen.

    Other Africans migrated out of Africa long ago.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    No African, after Negro race has evolved ca. 8.000-10.000 years ago, ever moved out of nearby sub-Saharan places following their own volition or intention. They cannot be compared with Euro-Asian tribes & peoples, nor with pre-Colombian migrations. So called Bantu expansion was a small fry in comparison with those- in fact, not unlike fried chicken.

  196. @Corvinus
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Except the infrastructure built was meant for the colonizers, not the natives. Refer to this example.

    https://voxeu.org/article/how-colonial-railroads-defined-africa-s-economic-geography

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    So the colonizers hoped to profit from building valuable infrastructure, therefore it follows that the Africans could never use or go through the trouble of maintaining it after independance?

    What an insufferable little worm you are.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Athletic and Whitesplosive

    "So the colonizers hoped to profit from building valuable infrastructure, therefore it follows that the Africans could never use or go through the trouble of maintaining it after independance?"

    The colonizers built railroads for the purpose of extracting raw materials. It was not an extensive and expansive system. Constructing paved two and four lane roads to link urban areas with the rural environs was a general after thought, considering that African ownership of vehicles was virtually non-existent. Had you done some NOTICING, you would have discovered four major phases of road provision and transport services development in colonial Africa can be identified:

    1. A colonial phase, where the emphasis was on accessing major export producing areas.

    2. A post-Independence phase (1960s to 1980s) when newly independent governments began to shape their own road and transport policies.

    3. A structural adjustment phase from the mid 1980s, with the IMF and the World Bank using their influence to bear on local policy and conditions.

    4. A new phase of (mostly) more positive change in the 21st century, with developments attracting new donors and investors, with impact on both road infrastructure investment and the transport services sector.

    "What an insufferable little worm you are.'

    Do you enjoy vigorously pounding your fist on your ad hominem button? I will admit it is quite the scene.

  197. @Lot
    @Sean

    “I have read Japan is currently being hurt by Trump’s trade war with China”

    Nope. All the rest of east asia is seeing booming US investment and trade. Taiwan, Indonesia, and Vietnam seem to be getting the biggest benefits.

    Replies: @Sean

    Chinese exports to America contain things the Chinese import from Japan. Chinese exports to the US are not only good for China.

  198. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Have you read Matthew Maly's Russia as it Is? He spends a lot of time on this, and supplies many pre-communist illustrations.
    Poles and Czechs were humiliated by German-speaking princelings, and at Poland's height the Polish peasantry was in a comparable status to Irish peasantry in later centuries, but "deluged" Poles and Czechs still had nobles, intellectuals, craftsmen: under the Mongol Yoke, all Russians were slaves, even nobility, who were introduced to their new status by being made to lie under wooden boards comprising a platform upon which the Mongol delegation held a picnic. Russia is nationally like a really abused kid.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I am suspicious of ancient explanations. The Japanese lived under a closed feudal system with very strict rules until the middle of the 19th century. Those with lower status (most people) could be executed on the spot for the most minor offense. Anyone who left the country could never come back on pain of death, even if they were sailors accidentally blown off course by a storm. But they took to modernity like a duck takes to water.

  199. @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Rhodesia wasn't feeding just itself.
    This literally happened in Zimbabwe when they deliberately destroyed the farms: remove white innovation, then suffer. Africa is a large and complex place, and there are pockets of competence, but there's no denying the general truth of the statement. Insofar as modern Africans are doing things right, what are they doing? Skills and methods developed by whites, and taught to them by whites and Chinese. Many Africans still rely on slash and burn agriculture and would enjoy a huge improvement in several respects by adopting modern methods.

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @Art Deco

    In re the ‘general truth of his statement’.

    1. You make the world disappear like the little kid in The Twilight Zone episode, I’m gonna wager lots of different sorts of places have some adjustment problems.

    2. His statement is predicated on the idea that Africans have no human capital and can acquire none. It sounds perfectly reasonable to a lot of people in this forum. It’s kinda nuts.

    3. As noted in a previous discussion, the production statistics indicate that Zimbabwe’s had the most mismanaged economy in Africa since 1990, bar two. It’s a cherry-picked example.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    A lot of this is just incoherent namecalling but the bit about Zimbabwe being "cherry picked" is really silly. People aren't always talking about Zimbabwe because it failed. It has lots of competition there. People are always bringing up Zimbabwe because before it failed it was massively successful, so the failure is unlikely to be a bit of bad luck or a slump they'll shake off.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  200. @Pheasant
    @PV van der Byl

    'They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices'

    No really many of them are. See Haiti etc.

    And by the way what does it say about a people that they never invented property rights?

    Chicken and egg situation?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    And by the way what does it say about a people that they never invented property rights?

    That they lived in a low-density environment.

  201. @Pheasant
    @PV van der Byl

    'They are not so stupid they cannot be taught proper farming practices'

    No really many of them are. See Haiti etc.

    And by the way what does it say about a people that they never invented property rights?

    Chicken and egg situation?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    No really many of them are. See Haiti etc.

    Per capita income in Jamaica is 5x that in Haiti. That in Barbados is 10x that in Haiti. Definite limits to biological explanations of economic phenomena.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Remind me Art, which of those was not only mostly black but independently black-ruled from the earliest point?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon

  202. @El Dato
    @Jane Plain


    Get your sick bag ready.
     
    Nah. It's just a good old pogrom, though messily continent-wide. Apparently "racism" is not exclusively a non-jewish-white on black-and-jews thing? Who would have thunk it.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    This thread has nothing to do with Jews, yet you managed to drag in the subject.

    What a bunch of reeking bottom-feeders.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jane Plain

    He's using violence against Jews as an example of ethnic violence and contrasting the common characterization of that phenomenon with other examples of ethnic violence so yeah good thing you're calling everyone here subhuman that totally makes sense.

  203. @Sean
    @J.Ross


    Fingleton is an idiot, an economic illiterate who can’t read or speak Japanese despite living there for 40 years
     
    Sounds like Japanese is the language of economic literacy!

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I didn’t say that (there have been very high level speakers who are still not considered fluent because of ethnicity, and even Nisei are “not quite the same thing”), but since you being it up, that makes an awful lot of sense. Japanese had something like free market capitalism, disposable income, nightlife, consumer goods, fast food, and corporate logos, all arrived at well before opening to the West. Even where these things are argued to be near-universal, the Japanese iteration anticipated the modern better than argued equivalents. We could probably do worse than to embrace some Japanese economic and mercantile terminology, which, safe predictions being good predictions, we already have.
    (But when they debate in school they do it in English because it’s much clearer. Japanese could never be a global language like English-reinforced-by-Hollywood, spoken Chinese, pasar Indonesia, or Spanish. And the writing system is like a stunning female — good thing it’s so beautiful because it’s massively dumb.)

    • Replies: @Sean
    @J.Ross

    Swiss Toni,
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201308/reading-the-mind-in-waisthip-ratios-paradox-resolved

    Fingleton is arguing that the Japanese are treacherous liars. You seem to think they are just in the grip of an unclear language and difficult writing system. You probably believe that story about the attack on Pearl Harbour (not their first sneak attack on a European power) being made before declaration of war because they were slow getting it typed up in the Embassy.

    Piketty is a clever fellow, if you read French you should get his latest book.


    https://boingboing.net/2019/09/12/brahmin-left.html

    This part of the book looks empirically at the reasons that left-wing, or social democratic parties have gradually transformed themselves from being the parties of the less-educated and poorer classes to become the parties of the educated and affluent middle and upper-middle classes. To a large extent, traditionally left parties have changed because their original social-democratic agenda was so successful in opening up education and high-income possibilities to the people who in the 1950s and 1960s came from modest backgrounds. These people, the “winners” of social democracy, continued voting for left-wing parties but their interests and worldview were no longer the same as that of their (less-educated) parents. [...]

    To simplify, the elite became divided between the educated “Brahmins” and the more commercially-minded “investors,” or capitalists. This development, however, left the people who failed to experience upward educational and income mobility unrepresented, and those people are the ones that feed the current “populist” wave. Quite extraordinarily, Piketty shows the education and income shifts of left-wing parties’ voters using very similar long-term data from all major developed democracies (and India)
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

  204. @Art Deco
    @Pheasant

    No really many of them are. See Haiti etc.

    Per capita income in Jamaica is 5x that in Haiti. That in Barbados is 10x that in Haiti. Definite limits to biological explanations of economic phenomena.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Remind me Art, which of those was not only mostly black but independently black-ruled from the earliest point?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @J.Ross

    They were slave colonies, Ross. Your point?

    , @Anon
    @J.Ross

    Which of anywhere was etc. as above? You're left with Liberia, more or less, and maybe Ethiopia.

    Not really either of those, even, as Liberia was founded by Americans and Ethiopia has a distant history of Semitic rule.

    You're going to use them to make a case about everywhere to the end of time?

  205. @Jane Plain
    @El Dato

    This thread has nothing to do with Jews, yet you managed to drag in the subject.

    What a bunch of reeking bottom-feeders.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    He’s using violence against Jews as an example of ethnic violence and contrasting the common characterization of that phenomenon with other examples of ethnic violence so yeah good thing you’re calling everyone here subhuman that totally makes sense.

  206. @Art Deco
    @J.Ross

    In re the 'general truth of his statement'.

    1. You make the world disappear like the little kid in The Twilight Zone episode, I'm gonna wager lots of different sorts of places have some adjustment problems.

    2. His statement is predicated on the idea that Africans have no human capital and can acquire none. It sounds perfectly reasonable to a lot of people in this forum. It's kinda nuts.

    3. As noted in a previous discussion, the production statistics indicate that Zimbabwe's had the most mismanaged economy in Africa since 1990, bar two. It's a cherry-picked example.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    A lot of this is just incoherent namecalling but the bit about Zimbabwe being “cherry picked” is really silly. People aren’t always talking about Zimbabwe because it failed. It has lots of competition there. People are always bringing up Zimbabwe because before it failed it was massively successful, so the failure is unlikely to be a bit of bad luck or a slump they’ll shake off.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @J.Ross

    A lot of this is just incoherent namecalling

    The term 'namecalling' does not mean what you fancy it means. Neither does the term 'incoherent'.



    but the bit about Zimbabwe being “cherry picked” is really silly.

    The term 'silly' doesn't mean what you fancy it means, either. When you have forty-odd states in Tropical Africa and you pick as your exemplar the one whose economic performance over a 30 year period is 3d from the bottom, that's cherry-picking.

  207. @Athletic and Whitesplosive
    @Corvinus

    So the colonizers hoped to profit from building valuable infrastructure, therefore it follows that the Africans could never use or go through the trouble of maintaining it after independance?

    What an insufferable little worm you are.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “So the colonizers hoped to profit from building valuable infrastructure, therefore it follows that the Africans could never use or go through the trouble of maintaining it after independance?”

    The colonizers built railroads for the purpose of extracting raw materials. It was not an extensive and expansive system. Constructing paved two and four lane roads to link urban areas with the rural environs was a general after thought, considering that African ownership of vehicles was virtually non-existent. Had you done some NOTICING, you would have discovered four major phases of road provision and transport services development in colonial Africa can be identified:

    1. A colonial phase, where the emphasis was on accessing major export producing areas.

    2. A post-Independence phase (1960s to 1980s) when newly independent governments began to shape their own road and transport policies.

    3. A structural adjustment phase from the mid 1980s, with the IMF and the World Bank using their influence to bear on local policy and conditions.

    4. A new phase of (mostly) more positive change in the 21st century, with developments attracting new donors and investors, with impact on both road infrastructure investment and the transport services sector.

    “What an insufferable little worm you are.’

    Do you enjoy vigorously pounding your fist on your ad hominem button? I will admit it is quite the scene.

  208. @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Remind me Art, which of those was not only mostly black but independently black-ruled from the earliest point?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon

    They were slave colonies, Ross. Your point?

  209. @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    A lot of this is just incoherent namecalling but the bit about Zimbabwe being "cherry picked" is really silly. People aren't always talking about Zimbabwe because it failed. It has lots of competition there. People are always bringing up Zimbabwe because before it failed it was massively successful, so the failure is unlikely to be a bit of bad luck or a slump they'll shake off.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    A lot of this is just incoherent namecalling

    The term ‘namecalling’ does not mean what you fancy it means. Neither does the term ‘incoherent’.

    but the bit about Zimbabwe being “cherry picked” is really silly.

    The term ‘silly’ doesn’t mean what you fancy it means, either. When you have forty-odd states in Tropical Africa and you pick as your exemplar the one whose economic performance over a 30 year period is 3d from the bottom, that’s cherry-picking.

  210. @Art Deco
    @Andy

    One has to consider that Mugabe and people of his age (probably down to those who would be around 75 now) were educated under a colonial educational system which was certainly far better than the current sytem run by Africans. Europeans at the time were quite impressed by some of these colonially educated Africans (Nyerere, Kenyatta, Kaunda).

    About 10% of the population over 15 in Tanganyika was literate in 1960. The European powers began to put boots on the ground in Tropical Africa around about 1895; most places were declared formally sovereign in 1960. So, the midpoint of their time as dependencies of Europe was around 1927, give or take. I've seen some data on school enrollments in Tanganyika in that era. Fewer than 10% of the youngsters of primary school age were enrolled around that time.

    Tropical Africa's had many failures since 1960. One of their successes has been establishing basic literacy as the mode. Another has been improvements in life expectancy. Life expectancy at birth in Tropical Africa is now about 60 years.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Jack D, @Andy

    My point – and I realize I should have made myself clearer – is that the reason that very old men like Mugabe and other had remained at the top of the leadership of many African countries is that they were educated under a better education system than the present one (for those able to enter, granted, since most Africans were illiterate at the time). The present leadership educated in African’s own education system pale in comparison.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Andy

    No clue what you've done to verify that assertion.

  211. Anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Remind me Art, which of those was not only mostly black but independently black-ruled from the earliest point?

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon

    Which of anywhere was etc. as above? You’re left with Liberia, more or less, and maybe Ethiopia.

    Not really either of those, even, as Liberia was founded by Americans and Ethiopia has a distant history of Semitic rule.

    You’re going to use them to make a case about everywhere to the end of time?

  212. @J.Ross
    @Sean

    I didn't say that (there have been very high level speakers who are still not considered fluent because of ethnicity, and even Nisei are "not quite the same thing"), but since you being it up, that makes an awful lot of sense. Japanese had something like free market capitalism, disposable income, nightlife, consumer goods, fast food, and corporate logos, all arrived at well before opening to the West. Even where these things are argued to be near-universal, the Japanese iteration anticipated the modern better than argued equivalents. We could probably do worse than to embrace some Japanese economic and mercantile terminology, which, safe predictions being good predictions, we already have.
    (But when they debate in school they do it in English because it's much clearer. Japanese could never be a global language like English-reinforced-by-Hollywood, spoken Chinese, pasar Indonesia, or Spanish. And the writing system is like a stunning female -- good thing it's so beautiful because it's massively dumb.)

    Replies: @Sean

    Swiss Toni,
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201308/reading-the-mind-in-waisthip-ratios-paradox-resolved

    Fingleton is arguing that the Japanese are treacherous liars. You seem to think they are just in the grip of an unclear language and difficult writing system. You probably believe that story about the attack on Pearl Harbour (not their first sneak attack on a European power) being made before declaration of war because they were slow getting it typed up in the Embassy.

    Piketty is a clever fellow, if you read French you should get his latest book.

    https://boingboing.net/2019/09/12/brahmin-left.html

    This part of the book looks empirically at the reasons that left-wing, or social democratic parties have gradually transformed themselves from being the parties of the less-educated and poorer classes to become the parties of the educated and affluent middle and upper-middle classes. To a large extent, traditionally left parties have changed because their original social-democratic agenda was so successful in opening up education and high-income possibilities to the people who in the 1950s and 1960s came from modest backgrounds. These people, the “winners” of social democracy, continued voting for left-wing parties but their interests and worldview were no longer the same as that of their (less-educated) parents. […]

    To simplify, the elite became divided between the educated “Brahmins” and the more commercially-minded “investors,” or capitalists. This development, however, left the people who failed to experience upward educational and income mobility unrepresented, and those people are the ones that feed the current “populist” wave. Quite extraordinarily, Piketty shows the education and income shifts of left-wing parties’ voters using very similar long-term data from all major developed democracies (and India)

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Sean

    Ah, so sense can be made of Piketty, all that is required is that one read French, which is to say, give up on life. No thanks.

  213. @Whiskey
    White women will, always and I do mean always, back the non-White mass immigration over their own men.

    One need only look at the results from the NC district, where a Democrat came close to taking the district that Republicans have held since 1963. All because suburban White women loathe Trump and Republicans for wanting even a bit of a hold on mass Third World Immigration.

    Darwinian incentives make White men and White women eternal and forever enemies. White men want generally equal access to women roughly equal to themselves, or at least they will mostly gladly settle for this, over a Thunderdome fight for one night with a woman they'll share with others. White women ... they want the Thunderdome fight. Its not THEM against Humungous. Lets you and him fight is the eternal playbook for White women, to a degree Asian women, even Latino women to some degree. Not so African women, who remain unique.

    You could argue Hitler got it all wrong -- The Master Race is African. Naturally low IQ and aggressiveness. Poor male cooperation, lots of fighting. Low paternal certainty and low paternal investment. All of that means high male sexiness. You can chart male sexiness inversely to the characteristics that make up a stable and prosperous society in isolation: higher male IQ, low inter-personal violence, delayed gratification, greater male cooperation, greater paternal investment. All the latter are innately repulsive to women, all the former male traits innately attractive.

    When technology is just a commodity, who cares if your cooperative men can make ME 109s or Spitfires if Africans can get a boat Taxi service direct to Europe and get free stuff. They'll see your ME 109s and Spitfires and raise you 7 kids with local women. Plus all their cousins. And siblings. And other kids by other women. And so on.

    Africans figure it might as well be them laying about, impregnating local European women, while the European men work themselves to death to support said Africans and their new women. European establishments being almost entirely feminized (just look at the FT correspondent staff) its a done deal they support Mass Eat-Pray-Love Africans right at home. All the better to crush their natural and eternal enemy, the beta White male.

    The question is if White men will convert to Islam and use that to crush their enemies (I think not, local Muslims feel themselves the new rulers and don't want sheep turning into fellow wolves). Or will Vlad Putin figure, might as well be him as a bunch of Africans running and ruling Europe. He'd probably have 90% of European men on board with that -- if Putin wants to play conqueror/liberator like Charlemagne.

    Replies: @James N. Kennett

    Everyone in Britain has met multiple women who have brought back an Arab, Turkish or African man from a sex holiday. It’s probably the same in all the wealthier European countries. Usually the man waits the necessary time until he cannot be deported (one or two years), and then he abandons the woman, along with any children he has “fathered”, to a life on welfare while he seeks further conquests.

  214. @Wilkey
    @Wilkey


    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.
     
    I meant to add that if the level of government providing the service had greater control over who received the service, there would be even less illegal immigration. If states and municipalities had the option of denying public education and a lot of other benefits to the children of illegal immigrants (since states pay most of the cost of public education), then states and municipalities would be able to compete against each other. You could live in a state with lower taxes that refused public education to the kids of illegal immigrants, or you could live in a higher tax state that pays for their education.

    But the federal government, for no really good reason, and without any real justification in Constitutional law, forces states to educate the children of illegals, and in any case government passes the bill onto the future.

    The end result is that we take in vast numbers of poorly educated immigrants whose welfare we don't really pay for, since we just put it on the national credit card.

    Replies: @miss marple, @Neoconned, @James N. Kennett

    Incidentally my theory is that mass immigration to the West has been enabled, at least in part, by the vast government budget deficits being run by most Western countries. If we actually had to pay the bill for all of this welfare, instead of sticking it to the next generation, then we might have a better appreciation of how much it’s all costing us.

    True. George Soros even advocated that the EU use its (hitherto unused) AAA credit rating to pay for mass Third-World immigration!

    Nobody wants to do a cost-benefit analysis, because of course the benefits (lower wages, higher return on investment) are privatized while the costs are socialized.

    The EU wanted to fine member countries who did not take their “share” of migrants. The proposed sum was €250,000 per migrant not taken. Either this was intended as a fine (which indicates a lack of respect for member countries) or it was a calculation of the net value of a Third-World migrant as a negative quarter of a million Euros!

  215. @Johnny Smoggins
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Steve and Ron are fantastic for red pilling normies who aren't ready for sterner stuff yet. But his humour and intelligence can win over many Whites. I see many new names of people posting here and we know the traffic of Unz is growing.

    But if you, or anyone else, is ready to start talking strategy I recommend The Daily Stormer

    Replies: @James N. Kennett, @J.Ross

    But if you, or anyone else, is ready to start talking strategy I recommend The Daily Stormer

    I hope you are not serious.

    We need race realism, which this site provides; we need people to be informed, and to let that education determine how they vote. That is sufficient. If there is no one suitable to vote for, then political organization will be necessary.

    The Stormer’s race hatred and malicious overstatement are counterproductive. Most Americans or Europeans are never going to vote for a racist party, and they recognize a lunatic when they see one.

    Instead, let’s have an evidence-based discussion of immigration, Jewish power, the Deep State, and the parts of our history that have been shoved down the memory hole. Ask why things are the way they are. Never stop questioning. As the readership of this site grows, the ideas discussed here will enter the mainstream.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @James N. Kennett

    The Stormer is a joke site, and the people who freak out over it don't understand that they are the joke.

  216. @Andy
    @Art Deco

    My point - and I realize I should have made myself clearer - is that the reason that very old men like Mugabe and other had remained at the top of the leadership of many African countries is that they were educated under a better education system than the present one (for those able to enter, granted, since most Africans were illiterate at the time). The present leadership educated in African's own education system pale in comparison.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    No clue what you’ve done to verify that assertion.

  217. @James N. Kennett
    @Johnny Smoggins


    But if you, or anyone else, is ready to start talking strategy I recommend The Daily Stormer
     
    I hope you are not serious.

    We need race realism, which this site provides; we need people to be informed, and to let that education determine how they vote. That is sufficient. If there is no one suitable to vote for, then political organization will be necessary.

    The Stormer's race hatred and malicious overstatement are counterproductive. Most Americans or Europeans are never going to vote for a racist party, and they recognize a lunatic when they see one.

    Instead, let's have an evidence-based discussion of immigration, Jewish power, the Deep State, and the parts of our history that have been shoved down the memory hole. Ask why things are the way they are. Never stop questioning. As the readership of this site grows, the ideas discussed here will enter the mainstream.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The Stormer is a joke site, and the people who freak out over it don’t understand that they are the joke.

  218. @Pheasant
    @Anonymous

    You are trying to explain biological reality to a woman. All that will happen ia she will take things personally (and in a roundabout way prove the idea that women are less rational than men). I have tried this before it will not succeed. Do not waste your time.

    Replies: @Rosie

    . All that will happen ia she will take things personally (and in a roundabout way prove the idea that women are less rational than men).

    Yes, when you denigrate a person’s group, they usually take it personally. There is, of course, nothing whatsoever that is irrational about this. White men take it personally when they are held responsible for anything and everything that is wrong with the world, and they are right to do so.

  219. @anonymous
    @Rosie

    Good god no. Women prefer the big man system: it is actually the result of their power. Same with polygamy.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Good god no. Women prefer the big man system: it is actually the result of their power. Same with polygamy.

    You know nothing about what women prefer, troll.

    What women think of polygamy at 18:05:

  220. @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack D

    I'm going to go Intelligent Dasein on this population prediction.

    Although the changing demographics in Japan are real, I've recently started hearing that I should "escape" back to the USA while I can from an educated acquaintance. This is a qualitative shift.

    If you want to change opinion in Japan, you start from the top. So I see this dystopianism as the possible vanguard of a change in the way people approach population questions.
    As represented by Abe's push to increase foreign workers, you can see that the "common knowledge" of "population crash=more immigrants needed" has existed at the top. It is circulating down.

    Japan has been bringing in SE Asians and islanders to fill in population gaps for a long time. Alex Kerr talks about Filipinos brides being imported for bachelor farmers in the Iya Valley in his book Dogs and Demons. And places in the countryside already have bilingual street signs in Japanese and Portuguese because of the Brazilian factory workers. These are case studies. Did they solve the problems they were supposed to or did they just create populations of low-contribution ethnic minorities? You know the answer.

    The point is that some of the same trends pushing elites to import immigrants in the US apply to Japan. AI and robotics could be powerful tools to help deal with labor shortages and would have the added benefit of not being net drains on health and pension systems, not to mention food and fuel scarcity issues. In the country that fetishizes robots and has had high speed trains for 50 years, where is the "man on the moon" program to deal with labor through technology? Is this a failure of confidence? Of vision? Or is it a failure of interest born of the same growth and consumption addiction as the USA?

    The modern world is fundamentally unsustainable. There are only three solutions: (1) fall backwards into agrarianism with lower standard of living, (2) move forward into a future of more advanced technologies with arguably less low standard of living, (3) kick the can down the road via migration and consumption.

    Japan has weathered several population booms and busts in its history, but it has recovered because of human capital and culture. If it comes out on the other side of this bust with permanently altered ethnicity, it is finished.

    Kansai International airport (KIX) hasn't lost a bag in like 25 years and the high speed train system has run for decades without a catastrophic accident. These are systems run by workers from the lower strata of Japan's society. They could be run by robots and AI, but they couldn't be run by ethnic minorities. You can't run a society on 80 year olds, but you can't run Japan on non-Japanese either.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    For example, why are the Swiss working on robotic construction rather than the Japanese? All those temporary Chinese construction workers? Not needed. And if they don’t come to Japan, they can’t hook up with a Japanese gal and then stay.

    https://qz.com/1705386/the-dfab-house-exhibit-opens-in-new-york-city/

  221. @Sean
    @J.Ross

    Swiss Toni,
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201308/reading-the-mind-in-waisthip-ratios-paradox-resolved

    Fingleton is arguing that the Japanese are treacherous liars. You seem to think they are just in the grip of an unclear language and difficult writing system. You probably believe that story about the attack on Pearl Harbour (not their first sneak attack on a European power) being made before declaration of war because they were slow getting it typed up in the Embassy.

    Piketty is a clever fellow, if you read French you should get his latest book.


    https://boingboing.net/2019/09/12/brahmin-left.html

    This part of the book looks empirically at the reasons that left-wing, or social democratic parties have gradually transformed themselves from being the parties of the less-educated and poorer classes to become the parties of the educated and affluent middle and upper-middle classes. To a large extent, traditionally left parties have changed because their original social-democratic agenda was so successful in opening up education and high-income possibilities to the people who in the 1950s and 1960s came from modest backgrounds. These people, the “winners” of social democracy, continued voting for left-wing parties but their interests and worldview were no longer the same as that of their (less-educated) parents. [...]

    To simplify, the elite became divided between the educated “Brahmins” and the more commercially-minded “investors,” or capitalists. This development, however, left the people who failed to experience upward educational and income mobility unrepresented, and those people are the ones that feed the current “populist” wave. Quite extraordinarily, Piketty shows the education and income shifts of left-wing parties’ voters using very similar long-term data from all major developed democracies (and India)
     

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Ah, so sense can be made of Piketty, all that is required is that one read French, which is to say, give up on life. No thanks.

  222. @Johnny Smoggins
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Steve and Ron are fantastic for red pilling normies who aren't ready for sterner stuff yet. But his humour and intelligence can win over many Whites. I see many new names of people posting here and we know the traffic of Unz is growing.

    But if you, or anyone else, is ready to start talking strategy I recommend The Daily Stormer

    Replies: @James N. Kennett, @J.Ross

    What could federal agents and ADL natterers possibly know about “strategy”?

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