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I write a lot about the little-known current population explosion in Africa. It’s worth noting that nobody really knows what the population of sub-Saharan Africa is or how fast it’s growing. That may be reassuring.

Or then again, maybe not …

From AllAfrica:

Nigeria: Govt Faults UN Agency Over Nigeria’s Population Figures

By Soni Daniel and Chris Ochai

The United Nations and [Nigeria’s] National Population Commission, NPC, yesterday, disagreed over Nigeria’s current population figure.

While the United Nations Population Fund, UNFPA, in its 2019 state of the world population report said the country’s population has hit a new high of 201 million, the NPC said the UN’s figure was a mere assumption.

According to the report, the fertility rate among Nigerian women has dropped from 6.4 in 1969 to 5.3 in 2019; this means an average Nigerian woman gives birth to at least five children.

Okay, if Nigeria’s total fertility rate fell 1.1 babies per woman’s lifetime in 50 years, then it should only take another 145 years for the total fertility rate in Nigeria to fall to the theoretical replacement level of 2.1.

So, nothing to worry about!

Similarly, the UNFPA said global fertility rate, or the average number of births per woman stood at 4.8 in 1969; 2.9 in 1994; and 2.5 in 2019.

It’s almost as if sub-Saharan Africa has a very different culture when it comes to fertility than the rest of the world, and we need more research and discussion of those differences. Evelyn Waugh vividly outlined how different were European and sub-Saharan attitudes regarding fertility limitation in his 1932 novel Black Mischief, but this diversity in outlook is almost forgotten in Western academic discourse today. (I tried to outline some of the fundamental reasons for these differences here.)

The report said contraceptive prevalence rate among Nigerian women aged 15-49 was only 19 per cent, adding that decision making on sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights among these women had averaged at 51 per cent between 2007 and 2018.

“This means 49 per cent of Nigerian women still do not have the power to decide on their sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights,” the report said.

The UN agency estimated that Nigeria’s population has grown from 54.7 million in 1969 to 105.4 million in 1994 and 201.0 million in 2019.

It’s mere assumption — NPC

But countering the UNFPA figure, the Director in charge of Census in the NPC, Usman Kolapo, said yesterday that the figure was based on mere projections arising from the 2006 census conducted by Nigeria.

He said: “The fact is that the figure is not as high as that but it is close to it. The UN is just using the basis of the 2006 census to arrive at the figure, taking into account both birth and death rates, apparently using high variant of calculation, which could arrive at that figure.

“But if you use the medium or low variant of calculation of birth and death rates, the figure cannot be up to that. If we had a census, we would have known our true population. We cannot categorically say that our population is up to 201 million.”

On Twitter, people tell me that Nigerian population figures can’t be trusted because Southern Christians are conspiring against Northern Muslims or Northern Muslims are conspiring against Southern Christians:

Alternatively:

I wouldn’t be surprised if both sides were right about Who Is Conspiring Against Whom.

Nobody in Sicily hates anybody quite as much as Southern Nigerians hate Northern Nigerians, and vice-versa, or at least that’s the impression I picked up from parking lot attendants in Chicago 30 years ago.

Here’s a 2018 article from Quartz Africa on the history of Nigeria’s censuses, such as they are:

The story of how Nigeria’s census figures became weaponized
By Feyi Fawehinmi & Commentary March 6, 2018

… But then a chance conversation with a friend produced a eureka moment: “every census in Nigeria follows the formula of the 1963 one” he said. I then went back to the numbers and there it was in plain sight.

Each state’s share of the national population in subsequent censuses (the last one was in 2006) comes out about the same as in the 1963 census, presumably for reasons of political prudence.

It’s kind of like how in Lebanon there hasn’t been a census since 1932. The 1932 census showed that the Christians were the biggest group, followed by the Sunnis and then the Shi’ites. So the Christians got assigned in perpetuity the top political office, the Sunnis the second, and the Shi’ites the third job.

It’s universally assumed in Lebanon that the Shi’ites are now the biggest group, so the Christians are in no hurry to update the 1932 census.

What part of Nigeria’s official census figures can be believed? I’ve generally assumed the total figure of 140 million [in 2006] was perhaps correct and the falsification only happened in the way it was distributed across the states by formula. But there’s reason to doubt even that. In 2010, Donald Duke, the former two-term governor of Cross River state, committed a remarkable act of political class suicide by penning an article detailing how he and his fellow governors rigged elections in Nigeria. Buried in the middle of the piece was this line:

When we conducted the census in 2006 or so, the raw figures said we were over two hundred million; when they went and processed the figures it came down to 140 million.

He was a governor at the time so his claim is at least plausible. …

Nigeria has been due another census since 2016 but lack of funds—the Nigerian government can only fund 51% of the costs and is relying on donors to fund the remaining 49%—mean it is now scheduled to hold this year at a cost of 272 billion naira ($759 million) “if necessary logistics are provided”, according to the director general of the National Population Commission (NPC).

In 2013, the former chairman of the NPC, Festus Odimegwu, managed to talk himself out of a job with a series of controversial comments. 24 out of the NPC’s 35 commissioners asked the president to fire him from his job as they had lost all confidence in him. Before then he had been queried by the presidency for giving newspaper interviews where he said there had never been a credible census in Nigeria, including the one in 2006, and that the 2016 one which he had been charged with conducting was doomed to fail. All of this was intolerable candor and president [Goodluck] Jonathan eventually tired of his antics and fired him in October 2013.

Nigeria does not seem like a country planning to hold a census this year.

 
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  1. I would say that rising standards of living, lower infant mortality, and increased female education tend to lower birthrates in traditionally patriarchal societies, but not traditional matriarchal societies. There is an assumption that these things will bring down African birthrates like they brought down Eurasian birthrates. I find this unlikely because 1.) Africans are likely not capable of building the infrastructure to do these things for themselves and 2.) even if they could that approach doesn’t work in a matriarchal society.

    • Replies: @216
  2. J.Ross says: • Website

    We had a Pugh of our own in Detroit politics and he was also a disaster. Are any Pughs good news?
    Detroit city council president shows off leaner body in new video: “Some people say it’s a six pack. Some people say it’s an eight pack.”
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/detroit-city-council-president-shows-off-leaner-body-in-new-video
    Charles Pugh gets up to fifteen years for sex with [male] minor
    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/11/09/charles-pugh-sentenced/93474600/

  3. joe_mama says:

    OT, but how have you not done a thread on the Roof Koreans? It being the anniversary of the LA riots this week. There’s a great twitter thread making the rounds:

  4. Nigeria, one day we will be governed worse than Detroit!

  5. adding that decision making on sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights among these women had averaged at 51 per cent between 2007 and 2018.

    What the hell does that mean?

    Donald Duke, the former two-term governor of Cross River state

    Why frighten people with the specter of Donald Trump and David Duke, when you can telescope them into a single figure?

  6. Aren’t Nigerians noted for their fastidious record keeping? Maybe that was someone else.

  7. songbird says:

    Festus Odimegwu: I always thought “Festus” was an honest-sounding name. It is funny to hear a Nigerian has it, but I suppose it is biblical. Probably trustier than the ones named “Queen” or “Prince.”

    I know there were a lot of allegations that the HIV numbers were exaggerated to drive up foreign aid.

    It seems crazy to me that they cannot afford a census. Didn’t the US have one in 1790 and Britain one in 1801?

  8. 216 says:
    @SimpleSong

    Urbanization and increasing educational attainment tend to be the biggest curbs of fertility.

    There’s nothing that indicates the so called “Sun People” will perpetually overbreed. See: Puerto Rico and Jamaica. When economic constraints are applied, fertility drops. Foreign aid and mineral revenues prevents this Malthusian reckoning.

  9. I feel sorry for Mother Earth. The Chinese are active on the Dark Continent. They seem to be a practical people. Maybe they have a solution.

  10. Lot says:

    Meanwhile the birthrate in South Korea is now below 1.0:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/03/south-koreas-fertility-rate-set-to-hit-record-low

    Doing the math using the figures in the article, SK spends about USD 25k per child in fertility subsidies, or about 1% of GDP.

    That just isn’t enough. Raising a baby up to high SK standards is expensive. They should triple the figure and cut back on other areas, such as old age subsidies.

    • Replies: @Sleep
    , @216
    , @Rosie
    , @Redneck farmer
  11. trelane says:

    Every Nigerian I’ve ever met has been very friendly.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Romanian
  12. PaceLaw says:

    What’s the deal with all of the alarmism about the population is sub-Saharan Africa??? It’s not like any handwringing here in the US is going to do a damn thing about it, so why twist yourselves in knots worrying about this supposedly inevitable black tide? It’s not like a bunch of Nigerians from Lagos are going to all of a sudden show up in your suburban neighborhoods in anytown USA. Calm down folks and get a grip on reality.

    • LOL: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  13. @J.Ross

    Are any Pughs good news?

    Well, there is an exception to every rule. Jethro Pugh was a pretty good defensive lineman for the Dallas Cowboys. According to the Cowboys he was the “Only player in Cowboys history to lead the team in sacks for five consecutive seasons (1968-72).”

    Pugh is unforgettable because Jerry Kramer blocked Pugh so that Bart Starr could quarterback sneak his way to the winning touchdown in the 1967 NFL Championship game, back when football was fun to watch (and play).

  14. Sleep says:
    @Lot

    I’ve always said that a low birthrate is fine so long as you have a homogeneous population, since it mimics the effects of war and infant mortality, which we’ve been dealing with all along. But 1.0 is extremely low. Hopefully this is temporary and the birthrate will at least recover to around Japan’s level soon.

    • Replies: @Oddsbodkins
  15. Here’s a stock photo of Festus Odimegwu:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  16. 216 says:
    @Lot

    How about just abolishing feminism?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  17. Seriously though, I think it’s just about impossible to know relatively accurately the population of Nigeria, for one reason:

    It’s Nigeria.

  18. Melinda Gates missed the population memo. In a recent interview with Susan Goldberg, editor of National Geographic, she stated that if she had a magic wand she would provide contraception to 200 million Africans. She really doesn’t need a magic wand, she just needs to put her money where her mouth is.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  19. Lot says:

    “ the fertility rate among Nigerian women has dropped from 6.4 in 1969 to 5.3 in 2019”

    The 5.3 figure is hard to believe given how much Nigeria has urbanized during that period.

    The best population growth stats in large black majority countries are probably South Africa and Jamaica, and are a lot lower.

    It would make sense if they can’t afford a full census to just select a few hundred urban blocks and villages and compare the count now to the prior census. Take the average increase, add in new developments, and you have a reasonable estimate.

    • Replies: @donut
  20. Lot says:

    African living standards have grown a lot since 1990 with the end of Cold War proxy wars and the long commodity boom that followed the great bust of the late 1980s.

    This, plus demographic momentum, means that SS Africa can support a much larger population and will do so.

    However, the commodity boom is showing signs of ending, and the per capita value of African exports will decline for a long time each year going forward. They are still a long way from starving, but each year are going to head in that direction.

    The bloody borders of the Islam Christians line through Africa could also start a new wave of civil wars. So could a new round of Saudi-Egypt-UAE v Iran-Qatar proxy conflicts in Muslim African countries.

  21. I wonder how many of these national population figures are based on purely modeled estimates, rather than, say, decennial censuses, or even systematic and periodic sample surveys.

    For instance, Afghanistan’s population has nearly doubled since we invaded in 2001, which seems a bit hard to believe. Countries experiencing war usually don’t have record rates of population growth.

    And Ethiopia’s population has increased from 22 million to 110 million since 1960. An increase of five times, during a span of time that saw revolution, massive post-revolutionary rural social reorganization, and a major famine.

  22. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Buffalo Joe

    This is something the true elite do. Imagine Ariel Sharon weeping because he could not personally hand new library books to Palestinian schoolchildren (and it’s to his credit he didn’t try this schtick). I remember Jeffrey Sachs’s appearance on the Daily Show (this was back with Jon Stewart): going solely by what he said, you could be forgiven for thinking he was a Seattle anarchist. Or consider the favorite phrase of a retail manager I once emptied garbage cans for: “of course nobody likes this policy, nobody hates this policy more than me,” when the policy didn’t apply to him or to anyone in the back office. Or: put down those pitchforks, can’t you see I’m one of you?

  23. prosa123 says:
    @J.Ross

    We had a Pugh of our own in Detroit politics and he was also a disaster. Are any Pughs good news?

    Jethro Pugh was an excellent defensive tackle who had a long career with the Dallas Cowboys.

  24. Rosie says:
    @Lot

    Meanwhile the birthrate in South Korea is now below 1.0:

    That kind of nihilism is appalling. I understand SK has a small Christian population. I wonder how their birthrates look.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  25. istevefan says:

    It’s worth noting that nobody really knows what the population of sub-Saharan Africa is or how fast it’s growing. That may be reassuring.

    I’d hazard to guess that a significant portion of America’s leadership does not know the true population of the USA, nor do they know by how much we augment that by immigration each year. We already know they have no idea about the number of illegals in the USA. I also believe they don’t know the total population of the world. As such they have no clue what the population of the USA should be given the looming encroachment of AI and robots upon the labor market.

    Our nation is just as clueless as Nigeria and the rest of SSA. And that is worse since we are supposed to be more advanced.

  26. istevefan says:
    @Rosie

    I understand SK has a small Christian population.

    The Christian population is about 25%.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  27. Rosie says:
    @istevefan

    The Christian population is about 25%.

    OMG I had no idea it was that high!

    • Replies: @snorlax
  28. I can’t tel if this is eloquent Steve tongue in check trolling. “Oh, yes! Ascertaining census numbers is a challenge because there’s political forces at play…IN NIGERIA!”
    Obviously, an I-Steve fan will see that the “in Nigeria” adds a laugh-at-misfortunes feel.
    The US has no idea what it’s population is and-for political reasons-has no interest in knowing. Number of illegal immigrants?!? What a gauche question!

  29. snorlax says:
    @Rosie

    It’s also the largest religion in the country.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  30. anon[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross

    We had a Pugh of our own in Detroit politics and he was also a disaster. Are any Pughs good news?

    Pepe LePugh?

  31. J.Ross says: • Website

    This is what happens when your journalists are all from the same ideological square inch and they think everybody else is a Nazi. This wasn’t a failure of proofreading, they’re clearly using “far-right” to suggest “anti-Semitic.”
    Bezos Blog: far right white nationalist Louis Farrakhan!
    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/05/02/ratio-in-progress-wapo-shifts-into-spin-overdrive-to-explain-why-farrakhan-tweet-was-deleted-and-its-not-going-well/

  32. The population of Nigeria? (fr.TMBG)

    It’s higher than it’s ever been and now it’s even higher. And now it’s even higher. And now it’s even higher.

    It’s higher than it’s ever been and now it’s even higher. And now it’s higher still.

  33. Dear iSteve Readers:

    Greetings.

    I am the Director General of the National Population Commission in Nigeria. May this comment find you in good health and spirits!

    Periodically, my country performs a national census, at great cost. Currently, under my administration, the cost of our census is estimated to be $759,000,000. This money is on deposit at an international bank to be transferred for the census.

    However, “necessary logistics” must be provided in order for this money to be transferred to our office so that we can perform our census. For this to happen, an intermediary account must be used, and an initial deposit must be made to our office account.

    I am contacting you to ask for your help so that we can perform our census. In exchange for your assistance in providing a deposit and your intermediary account, I am prepared to repay you 5% of our budget transfer money. $37,950,000.

    Please respond by wire transferring $10,000 for our initial census deposit, and please provide your account number, social security number and identity so that my office can transfer to you $37,950,000.

    Sincerely,

    Buzz Mohawk
    Director General
    Nigerian National Population Commission

    • LOL: jim jones, reiner Tor
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  34. @snorlax

    There are over 4 times as many Presbyterians in Korea as in the U.S. They were once more orthodox and observant, but judging by that birthrate maybe they were just a generation or two behind what the U.S. church has been up to but headed in the same direction.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  35. Those Twitter replies are great. Nigerians make me laugh. Much like my own Gaelic brethren, they can always be counted on to parody themselves. I can practically hear the severe “Uhmy friend, huhlet me tell you…”

    Much respect. Won’t be going on holiday anytime soon, though.

  36. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Red Nose Day is May 23rd.
    Red Nose Day is an upcoming memefest of countering plutocrat immigration propaganda with clown imagery.
    Will you honk with us? There’s always room in the car.
    https://postimg.cc/kRtB3LJn
    https://postimg.cc/ZWjYgJ88
    https://postimg.cc/PPjt5CKb

  37. jim jones says:

    Korean media are really pushing the cuteness of children, I assume this is by direction of their Government:

  38. donut says:
    @Lot

    Maybe Shell Oil’s tribute pays for the corn dole .

  39. donut says:

    What do you think Sailer ? Any way your break is over , now pass my posts !

  40. J.Ross says: • Website

    You probably already know that there is massive social media fraud, not from Russia but from the American establishment, and it can take the form of trying to “take over” a board, or disrupt it with nonsense, or plant calls to violence so you can later “discover” and decry them, or just conventional whispering campaigns. Early (and many current) efforts at this were often self-defeating because board culture (terminology, format) enabled the rapid recognition of outsiders.
    Soon there may be an increase in “journalist/activist” trolling of target traditionalist sites. The increased danger makes sense because all the recent shooting events were tied to the last bastions of free speech and anonymity (funny how that works), and other mainstream media organs have already started a concerted focus on these holdouts. After all that Russian bots nonsense there are still completely unregulated social media whispering campaign companies anyone can hire (and intel mercs like Black Cube). Here is a recent post from a person claiming to be a shill describing his shilling:
    https://8ch.net/pol/res/13209049.html

    What is essentially being done is that we are being paid to write filler for topics on political events and then pass it off for sale to news organizations. This ussually leads to a number of different outlets like a local news paper basically parroting what is said on the local news talk radio nearly word for word. As much of what is written is recycled.

    [MORE]

    >Multimedia Influencing and Review

    Literally paid shills who go about and write positive things about products. A certain animal rights group in particular likes to use this as a way to add credibility to their advertising.

    Now these three fields make up the greater whole of our company and for the most part, people who sign up tend to work in one of three fields for eight-ten weeks at a time. We batch hire using sites like indeed.com and will bring in a bakers dozen employees at a time. The turnover rate is rather high with all but say two or three members of a hiring group being allowed to renew their contracts with the company.

    Now because of this turnover rate, there is a NDA in effect for any member whom is tasked with writing about a product. Let’s take a brand of paper towels to use as an example. For a few weeks a batch of employees will write positive things on the product, some of it genuine as we are often sponsored by the companies that make these products and as such are given free samples.

    Now normally nobody would not even bother bringing up the mind numbing task of scanning social media posts and writing reviews, however in the past three weeks things have changed at our company. We have gone from focusing namely on products and services and instead to news media.

    What is essentially being done is that we are being paid to write filler for topics on political events and then pass it off for sale to news organizations. This ussually leads to a number of different outlets like a local news paper basically parroting what is said on the local news talk radio nearly word for word. As much of what is written is recycled.

    These last few weeks are the closing days at my company however they have brought me here. I have lurked and posted, often being called a [Methodist] and a number of other phrases that used to bother me. However I have grown to enjoy the morbid humor of this site and as such figured I would confirm what many of you already suspect on this site.

  41. OT – Malibu High School drops 11 man football team.

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-malibu-high-drops-football-20190502-story.html

    One reason the article cites is shortage of players, in part due to the fires that ravaged the area last year.

    They clearly need more diversity to keep the football program alive!

    P.S. Rich Lawson was my varsity football coach in HS. Eric Sondheimer was the local sports beat reporter for the LA Daily News and was present at just about every league game we played.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  42. @216

    How about just abolishing feminism?

    Korean women have always opened the doors for men. It’s like they were feminist all along.

  43. TG says:

    One key point.

    You say that the fertility rate in the rest of the world is dropping while Africa’s is not. Well, not so simple.

    Yes, the fertility rate in India and Pakistan and Bangladesh etc. is indeed dropping. BUT THAT’S NOT A GOOD THING. The fertility rate is dropping in these places because chronic malnutrition is so widespread that women are physically incapable of bringing an average of seven pregnancies to successful term. That is a very bad thing. That means the population has (not might, but HAS) hit the limits and population growth is being limited by the available food supply. It means that the average person is being crushed into subsistence-level poverty. It also means that even as population growth moderates in these countries, the PRESSURE is maintained: every advance, every new grain of rice, is instantly swallowed up by (barely) that many more people being born…

    The Malthusian holocaust is not bad science fiction. It is established historical fact, and it is still happening now. But it’s not global famine, it’s slow brutal crushing poverty in those specific countries where people breed like rodents…

  44. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Football has been fading in SoCal for about 15 years from a pretty high level and shrinkage is getting more common. High school football was surprisingly popular in California until recently — e.g., both Super Bowl QBs this year, Brady and Goff, were upscale Bay Area high schoolers. But it’s in decline now.

    • Replies: @Barnard
  45. @Sleep

    Still more births than deaths, thanks to demographic momentum.

  46. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Festus Odimegwu = Smudges wife out.

  47. Mr. Anon says:
    @PaceLaw

    It’s not like a bunch of Nigerians from Lagos are going to all of a sudden show up in your suburban neighborhoods in anytown USA. Calm down folks and get a grip on reality.

    Indeed. That’s every bit as likely as, say, Minneapolis becoming overrun with – I don’t know – Somalis or something.

    Not going to happen. Ridiculous to even consider such a thing.

  48. Mr. Anon says:
    @trelane

    Every Nigerian I’ve ever met has been very friendly.

    Given how many of them there are, obviously a lot of them are very friendly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  49. @songbird

    There’s financially affordable, and then there’s politically/socially affordable. A Nigerian census isn’t #2.

  50. @Lot

    Endgame Napoleon won’t like what you’re reporting.

  51. @PiltdownMan

    Notice how it’s the 2 white girls doing actual work in the head photo?

  52. DuanDiRen says:

    There are 40-50 Nigerian students at my university in each year’s class. The girls are universally polite and pretty; the boys are universally athletic and outgoing. All of them are by definition middle-class, because their parents can afford to send them to university overseas, and in 5 years I have never met one who was planning on returning to Nigeria. Zero.

  53. Anonymous[397] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Notoriously, British colonial authorities didn’t like to deal with the ‘coastal’ Igbo and Yoruba tribes, finding them to be fundamentally untrustworthy.

    The colonialists preferred dealing with the northern Muslim Hausa and Fula, whom they found to be straightforward and honest.

  54. Romanian says: • Website
    @trelane

    My personal theory is that cultures that evolve traditions of hospitality and friendliness were, in general, very violent, and they adopted very strict rules and obligations, even courtesies, in order to lubricate social interactions between people, tribes etc. The countries which became domesticated the quickest, like the North Western Europeans, became “cold” not only because of HBD, but also because their early development of civil society, impersonal institutions, contracts etc that reduced clannishness but also reduced the risk of very violent interpersonal or random intergroup conflict, making it quite feasible to be the lonely curmudgeon on the hill, or an eccentric, or just a antisocial person.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  55. Barnard says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The decline of football seems like a trend that once it spreads nationwide, it happen rapidly. Youth participation rates are down, I would expect small colleges to drop their teams in significant numbers in the next 5-10 years. It isn’t going to be financially viable for them.

  56. Gordo says:

    To be honest the British government doesn’t know how many people are in the UK, and doesn’t care, same for the US I think.

  57. @Romanian

    It’s quite possibly true.

    • Replies: @Romanian
  58. Romanian says: • Website
    @reiner Tor

    High praise from you, Sir!

  59. Dante says:

    There are a number of Demographics articles online by Nigerian’s and they all agree that the population is exaggerated due to the way funds are distributed to different regions by population size so there is alot of lying to gain extra funds etc. The articles iirc estimate the real population to be anywhere between 160 to 180 million people, I will have a Google later and find some links though a quick search will likely suffice.

  60. they need not worry. western countries will take extremely accurate census readings on how many nigerians are flooding their countries, and assign political benefits to them accordingly.

    soon the nigerian president will be able to imitate the mexican president, and point out how many nigerians are in the US, UK, france, germany, or whatever nation is politically expedient at the moment, and explain how this should continue, how (the US or whatever country) owes nigeria more foreign aid dollars, how nigerians in (the US or whatever country) should consider themselves nigerians first, and how nigerian politicians in (the US or whatever country) should work to benefit nigeria first.

    by then it won’t matter because america will have ceased to exist in any meaningful way, likewise for france or the UK or germany, but it will be funny to have the nigerian bloc feuding with the somalian bloc in the US congress.

  61. @songbird

    well I believe port au prince with 21st century technology + outside aid has less of a functioning sewer system than ancient rome with the technology of thousands of years ago and no outside aid. that should give you some insight into the problem solving and coordination abilities over there.

  62. Shades of “There are_____million illegals in America”. Pick any number. How does anyone know? Did they do a headcount?

  63. “The decline of football”

    high school football participation declines about 1% per year. i’ve been tracking this for years. but that’s still from a very high peak. football is number 1 by a mile.

    if the suburbanites drop out due to brain damage fears, africans won’t stop playing. so it’s possible in a few decades that football will be an african only sport in the US, like boxing was after 1970 or so. they don’t care about stuff like that. it could become a humorous ‘noticer’ topic for steve, with suburbanite teachers and administrators and hysterical women denouncing the danger of football and the virtues of soccer, while africans continue to just smash away on the gridiron, totally ignoring these people.

    mexicans and asians and indians have much less interest in football as well, so high schools taken over by these groups may increasingly drop their teams, especially as the suburbanite booster people disappear. that’s what keeps lots of teams operational. even the african teams. football is actually expensive, but unlike something such as ice hockey, the town pays to keep the team running. that’s how 1 million african high schoolers can ‘afford’ to play football.

    it won’t matter if division 3 colleges drop their teams, since division 3 is irrelevant. in fact it won’t matter if all the teams other than FBS disappear. that’s still 120 teams. that’s more than enough. some of the FCS teams will become FBS teams and division 2 and division 3 can disappear and football would be as strong as ever.

  64. What good does it do to post a two hundred million and first article about the growing African population if you won’t go on record with what you want done about it? Forced sterilization? A One-Child Policy? Or just run-of-the-mill American-level voluntary self-sterilization? Drop condoms on the country?

  65. @Desiderius

    People need to watch more Arirang, South Korea’s mostlyl English language state channel.

    Arirang makes South Korea look like the 53rd or 54th state, with far less degeneracy than we see here in the mainland US.

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