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From ESPN:

Giants waive CB Janoris Jenkins after ‘offensive’ tweet to fan

7:19 AM PT
Jordan Raanan

The New York Giants waived cornerback Janoris Jenkins on Friday, two days after he made an inappropriate remark to a fan on Twitter.

On Wednesday, Jenkins called a critical fan a “retard” when taking exception to questioning about why the stats Jenkins was using to showcase his effectiveness weren’t contributing to victories.

Jenkins said Thursday that the usage of the word was “slang” that is “just part of my culture.”

What culture is NFL cornerback Janoris Jenkins? I don’t have a clue … He could be Samoan, white, South Asian …

Nah, just kidding. All 64 starting cornerbacks at the beginning of the last 16 NFL seasons have been black. That’s 1024 out of 1024, which is hard to explain via Social Constructionism.

(For background, a cornerback is a football defensive back whose job is to guard one of the offensive team’s best wide receivers. The job is to inflict the maximum disruption of the offense’s carefully designed passing plays.)

Giants coach Pat Shurmur met with Jenkins on Wednesday and said in a statement Friday that Jenkins’ refusal to admit that what he did was wrong led to his release.

Hmmhmmmhh … an NFL cornerback who is aggressive, hostile, and self-assured … That’s NOT the kind of cornerback we want on this team! Here at the New York Giants, we like our cornerbacks meek and mild. We want them to sound like old NPR Morning Edition announcers.

“It was an unfortunate situation,” safety and captain Michael Thomas said. “It’s unfortunate. It’s unfortunate.”

Jenkins, 31, had one year and $11.25 million remaining on his contract.

The Giants are 2-11 this year and probably aren’t going to be a whole lot better next year, so why pay a 30-something defender $11.25 million when you can wriggle out of your contractual obligation by being shocked, shocked that he used the word “retard”? (Let me know if I’m misinterpreting the contractual implications.)

… “I regret it. But at the end of the day, it’s my slang,” Jenkins said. “So if you take it how you’re going to take it, it’s on you. I don’t mean to offend nobody. My dad always told me, ‘Speak freely and own up to what you say.’ So I always speak freely as a man, and I speak how I want to speak.”

Something must be done about the Cornerback Menace. They don’t seem to be as easy to intimidate into submission as everybody else these days.

 
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  1. Never pick the antique horse when you’re riding the euphemism carousel.

    • Replies: @Jim bob Lassiter
    Or in the alternative pick an old plug that's older than antique: Retardate
  2. Jackrabbit Jenkins’s response to being cut:

    Giants head coach Pat Shurmur and their GM Dave Gettleman are retards, btw. Shurmur’s time management at the end of Monday’s game was moronic, and Gettleman made 6’9″ turnstyle Nate Solder one of the highest paid offensive linemen in the league.

  3. Jenkins’ refusal to admit that what he did was wrong led to his release

    Sadly, this is way things are in 2019. You aren’t punished based on what you did wrong, but on how contrite you seem after you are caught. I give Jenkins a lot of credit for not backing down.

    In my local paper, the Giants beat writer was wringing his hands in his column this morning.
    However, not only did he not use the word “retard”, but he didn’t even use the term “r word”, instead noting “the Special Olympics has described the term Jenkins used as ‘hurtful and painful’ and ‘the same as any slur used against any minority group.’” It’s amazing that as a reader of the newspaper I have to guess what the news is.

    As a Giants fan, I will say without reservation that our last two coaches and GM’s have been retards.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    "I give Jenkins a lot of credit for not backing down."

    Yeah, there's something to be said for standing one's ground. Though unlikely, it'll be interesting to see how he responds if he is blackballed (no pun intended) by the league.
  4. Don’t follow football so don’t know anything about the guy, except that I respect him.

  5. The Giants are 2-11 this year and probably aren’t going to be a whole lot better next year, so why pay a 30-something defender $11.25 million when you can wriggle out of your contractual obligation by being shocked, shocked that he used the word “retard”? (Let me know if I’m misinterpreting the contractual implications.)

    Any idea if they got rid of the “Papa John’s” pizza guy for similar reasons?

    • Replies: @James Forrestal

    Any idea if they got rid of the “Papa John’s” pizza guy for similar reasons?
     
    John Schnatter (Papa John) was involved in a contractual dispute with Casey Wasserman, a member of a certain tribe, who claimed that Papa John's owed his marketing company, Laundry Service, exactly $6 million [no, I'm not kidding]. This dispute had absolutely nothing to do with with the sustained attack on Schnatter by "news" media outlets owned by Wasserman's co-ethnics, though.

    Honest.

    Also of note:

    - Schnatter is of German ancestry, so anti-German hatred may well have played a role as well.

    - Schnatter objected vigorously to the NFL's promotion of anti-white/ anti-American antics by its employees. His stance was not a popular one with media oligarchs.

    - Papa John also donated to Trump and Rand Paul, and took several other political positions that ran contrary to the "woke capitalism" party line.

    Of course, all of this had nothing to do with the anti-Papa John witch hunt. It was all about an important intersectional infraction -- a passing reference to a now-taboo word, made in a secretly-recorded private conversation.
  6. At least he has chicken.

  7. You are understanding his contract correctly. I would say there was a good chance he would have been released after the season to save salary cap space anyway. There is no way another team pays him $11 million next season.

    • Replies: @Snacks
    It doesn't look like this had any effect on their ability to get out of the contract. Except maybe from a PR standpoint
  8. NFL cornerback Janoris Jenkins

    How many Janorises might there be in the US today?

    Janoris is not in the top 1000 names for any year of birth beginning with 1900.

    Please enter another name.

    Facebook only records about thirty people named Janoris; around three-quarters appear to be LatinAm women. Most of the rest Black males. One a middle-aged Black woman.

    One of the Black males is a native of Birgmingham, Alabama, born ca. 1990; another a Georgia native born ca.1995. (NFL’er Janoris Jenkins was born in Oct. 1988.)

    It looks likely to be <10 non-Hispanic Janorises in the USA.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Any of em retards ?
  9. He’s still gonna vote for Joe Biden, so he’s all for giving retards opportunities.

  10. You are truly hilarious sometimes, Steve! That NPR talk though, hey that’s my bit. You’re welcome.

    I also agree that this cornerback sounds like a stand-up guy. I really gotta say that the average white guy would be more contrite for 2 reasons: 1) more likely to just be a cuck and 2) more forward-thinking, meaning not gonna say he’s standing by his word after a talk with his agent, unless he really, really wants to take a stand for 11 million dollars. This guy popped off, but I do respect what he said.

    This is a great loophole for management and HR ladies everywhere.

    • Replies: @Marty
    great loophole ...

    Do cornerbacks get Wonderlic scores? Because if Jenkins’s was low, then firing him over this gaffe is a violation of Title II of the ADA. Dopes have to get reasonable accommodation for their disability, even when dissing other dopes.
  11. “I’m the boss, and apparently I can’t say anything.”

    “Well that’s true, you can’t say ANYTHING.”

    “You can’t be too careful about what you say… mo money, mo problems.”

  12. What culture is NFL cornerback Janoris Jenkins? I don’t have a clue … He could be Samoan, white, South Asian …

    I’d bet a C-spot it’s somewhere near the G-spot.

  13. The irony is that ‘retard’ is itself a euphemism.

    It implies that the subject is eventually going to be just as intelligent as the rest of us — it’ll just take him longer.

    It’s much less hurtful than, say, ‘stupid’ or ‘idiot.’ That, of course, was the original idea.

    To say something less hurtful.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What is you, a moron ?

    For children now they say, " developmentally delayed" instead of slow or autistic.
    , @Desiderius
    Retarded has the advantage over modern day euphemisms in that it is roughly accurate. As long as the slower students are motivated they can eventually complete well-defined tasks. That of course leaves a great deal unsaid, which is how actual courtesy and compassion work, rather than weaponized virtue-signaling.
  14. Janoris just became one of my favorite players.
    Hope the Raiders or the Texans sign him.

  15. I thought the term in that age group said “R-tard”,

    FWIW, I thought this old clip most interesting:

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    For those wondering, the National Association for Retarded Children is now Arc of the United States.
    , @Anonymous
    My fiancee and I are both UMC 35 year-olds.

    She was surprised to find out it's now called "the r-word" when I told her about some podcast being considered "edgy" for using it (which I found bemusing).

    This is a pretty recent thing (post-twitter?) and to be fair to Janoris this was not even "hood slang" when I was growing up.
  16. Retard as a noun:

    1. A slowing down or hindering of progress; a delay.
    2. Music A slackening of tempo.
    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/retarding

    It’s also used by bakers for a yeast dough that’s been chilled to “retard” the reproductive cycle of the yeast (thus allowing bacteria in the culture to add their flavors to the dough).

  17. It can’t be that bad a word – the Airbus cockpit speaker yells out “RETARD” in a French accent about 20 ft. off the ground during landings. Most pilots don’t take offense.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Glad to know that the homosexuals who post here still keep up with their French idioms , Achmede
    , @ScarletNumber
    In Canada, there was a bottle of Vitamin Water with YOU RETARD printed on the inside of the bottle cap.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    It can’t be that bad a word – the Airbus cockpit speaker yells out “RETARD” in a French accent about 20 ft. off the ground during landings. Most pilots don’t take offense.
     
    When asked about aviation's English-only rule, a Quebecois pilot stated that he'd no more use French in the cockpit than use English in the bedroom.
  18. @Hamlet's Ghost
    I thought the term in that age group said "R-tard",

    FWIW, I thought this old clip most interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4y57MfdXSE

    For those wondering, the National Association for Retarded Children is now Arc of the United States.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    My mom volunteered for over 40 years on behalf of retarded citizens, it was right in the name UPARC. Now the name is changed because of ...reasons?
  19. @Hail

    NFL cornerback Janoris Jenkins
     
    How many Janorises might there be in the US today?

    Janoris is not in the top 1000 names for any year of birth beginning with 1900.

    Please enter another name.
     

    Facebook only records about thirty people named Janoris; around three-quarters appear to be LatinAm women. Most of the rest Black males. One a middle-aged Black woman.

    One of the Black males is a native of Birgmingham, Alabama, born ca. 1990; another a Georgia native born ca.1995. (NFL'er Janoris Jenkins was born in Oct. 1988.)

    It looks likely to be <10 non-Hispanic Janorises in the USA.

    Any of em retards ?

  20. Trump could score a coup if this dude is patriotic enough to denounce kneeling for the flag. Trump could bring him up to the podium as a victim of political correctness and how corrupt the NFL is, and this dude could denounce the NFL as “slaveowners” and “anti-black” and “anti-American” and hug Trump.

    Yeah, I’m not calling for blacks as “natural conservatives”, I just think the event would be another boffo mind f u ck for the the Leftists.

    P.S. Trump’s had it in for the NFL ever since they screwed over him and the USFL back in the early 1980s and blocked later attempts by him to own teams. He talks about it The Art of the Deal.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    That would be a deft act of political jiu-jitsu, so he won't do it.
    , @El Dato
    Probably would lead to another article of impeachment.
  21. @Colin Wright
    The irony is that 'retard' is itself a euphemism.

    It implies that the subject is eventually going to be just as intelligent as the rest of us -- it'll just take him longer.

    It's much less hurtful than, say, 'stupid' or 'idiot.' That, of course, was the original idea.

    To say something less hurtful.

    What is you, a moron ?

    For children now they say, ” developmentally delayed” instead of slow or autistic.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    The euphemism treadmill. Don't know about the States, but over here I sometimes hear people sarcastically using "special" to describe a backward individual, from "special school".

    "A special school is a school catering for students who have special educational needs due to learning difficulties, physical disabilities or behavioral problems. Special schools may be specifically designed, staffed and resourced to provide appropriate special education for children with additional needs. Students attending special schools generally do not attend any classes in mainstream schools."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_disability#Terminology

    "Retarded comes from the Latin retardare, "to make slow, delay, keep back, or hinder," so mental retardation meant the same as mentally delayed. The term was recorded in 1426 as a "fact or action of making slower in movement or time". The first record of retarded in relation to being mentally slow was in 1895. The term mentally retarded was used to replace terms like idiot, moron, and imbecile because retarded was not then a derogatory term. By the 1960s, however, the term had taken on a partially derogatory meaning as well. The noun retard is particularly seen as pejorative; a BBC survey in 2003 ranked it as the most offensive disability-related word, ahead of terms such as spastic (or its abbreviation spaz) and mong. The terms mentally retarded and mental retardation are still fairly common, but currently the Special Olympics, Best Buddies, and over 100 other organizations are striving to eliminate their use by referring to the word retard and its variants as the "r-word", in an effort to equate it to the word nigger and the associated euphemism "n-word", in everyday conversation. These efforts have resulted in federal legislation, sometimes known as "Rosa's Law", to replace the term mentally retarded with the term intellectual disability in some federal statutes.

    The term mental retardation was a diagnostic term denoting the group of disconnected categories of mental functioning such as idiot, imbecile, and moron derived from early IQ tests, which acquired pejorative connotations in popular discourse. It acquired negative and shameful connotations over the last few decades due to the use of the words retarded and retard as insults. This may have contributed to its replacement with euphemisms such as mentally challenged or intellectually disabled. While developmental disability includes many other disorders, developmental disability and developmental delay (for people under the age of 18) are generally considered more polite terms than mental retardation."
     
  22. @Achmed E. Newman
    It can't be that bad a word - the Airbus cockpit speaker yells out "RETARD" in a French accent about 20 ft. off the ground during landings. Most pilots don't take offense.

    Glad to know that the homosexuals who post here still keep up with their French idioms , Achmede

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    A) That's not an idiom.
    B) This is not the place to meet people - try the Mayor's office in South Bend, Indiana.
    , @El Dato
    Je ne comprends pas.
    , @Pat Kittle

    Glad to know that the homosexuals who post here still keep up with their French idioms , Achmede
     
    I'm a bit rusty on French.

    What do you mean when you boast "Je suis Charlie Hebdo"?
  23. Pop group Black Eyed Peas somewhat famously re-worked their club hit “Let’s Get Retarded” into “Let’s Get It Started” and inked a nice deal w/the NBA for a time

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122702959007437847

  24. The irony is that a person who was actually mentally retarded probably wouldn’t have the acuity to be offended at being called a retard. Ok, so maybe the relative of said individual would be offended, which is understandable. But here’s the thing: nobody actually calls mentally retarded people retards. You use it to describe someone who does something foolish or annoys you.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, Mr. Cassidy, if you didn't get that directly from Michael Scott of The Office then that's amazing. Here's 10 seconds of Michael Scott explaining this.

    Steve, I should have put this up earlier. It should be in the post.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sjuBF0-sRE
    , @Morton's toes
    That is not irony, exactly. It is retarded, though. I challenge the activists to bring forth one actual Forrest Gump character from the history of the universe since the Big Bang to testify that calling a retard a retard has ever once offended one real human.

    I tried to find Jenkins' wonderlic score on the internet but no luck. If he had gotten a good score it would be widely publicized. Also he was kicked off the Florida football team for marijuana which is an indicator that he is not a smart fellow. The Chiefs and Texans could use a cornerback for sure. I don't know how serious Sherman's injury is. The 49er's also are possibly looking for a corner. I wonder if his agent advised him to defy the Giants and he ends up playing in prime time in the post season. Which would be a win-win if you are the Giants' management and a kick in the shins if you are a Giants fan.

    Why would anybody be a fan of the New York Giants right now is also a question that is beyond my powers of using internet search.

    (Forrest Gump seemed concerned that his child was smart but that was fiction.)
    , @Harry Baldwin
    Back when Sarah Silverman was funny (2008) there was a scene on her show when she calls her sister “gay,” then apologizes to her two gay neighbors. “I don’t mean gay like homosexual,” she explains. “I mean gay like retarded.”
    , @Anne Lid
    Temple Grandin was kicked out of regular school, because someone called her a retard (intent matters - I am guessing she said it to hurt) and she chucked a book at her in anger. When my son was little, there was another autistic boy in school and his mother and I found out that even though our boys were bullied a bit, they were not perturbed, because it just flew over their heads. Then my boy had a period when he discovered double meanings and found even innocent remarks deeply suspicious. By now it is much better, he can take and make a joke instead of trying to scratch your face off. He still only manages only a sliver of the schoolwork normal kids do.
    There is an area where retarded people are still smart enough to realise they are retarded.
  25. @Achmed E. Newman
    It can't be that bad a word - the Airbus cockpit speaker yells out "RETARD" in a French accent about 20 ft. off the ground during landings. Most pilots don't take offense.

    In Canada, there was a bottle of Vitamin Water with YOU RETARD printed on the inside of the bottle cap.

  26. Deep iSteve institutional lore: Erstwhile commenter Buffalo Joe did not approve of the term “retard.” Although a self-described “hard ass guy” (aroused buttocks-enthusiast?) and possible actual buffalo, Joe was too innocent for this world. RIP.

    https://www.unz.com/?s=retard&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=buffalo+joe

    Buffalo Joe says:

    WorkingClass, take it from a hard ass guy, “retards” is not an acceptable term. Otherwise, good thought.

    Reg Cæsar says:

    …take it from a hard ass guy, “retards” is not an acceptable term.

    Let alone “window lickers”.

    • Replies: @Hail

    Buffalo Joe [...] RIP.
     
    I assume that RIP does not indicate any inside knowledge on whether or not he is still among us the living, but rather an ironic way of saying he has hung up his cap in the iSteve comment section for his own reasons.

    I see he announced his comment-retirement, in anger, with his last post dated June 19, 2019 (or, "Trump comes down the escalator, +4 years, 3 days.")

  27. There was a hit rap song in the 90’s called “Shoop” where the rapper boasted about arousing his woman so much that she was “sounding like a retard.”

  28. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Deep iSteve institutional lore: Erstwhile commenter Buffalo Joe did not approve of the term “retard.” Although a self-described “hard ass guy” (aroused buttocks-enthusiast?) and possible actual buffalo, Joe was too innocent for this world. RIP.

    https://www.unz.com/?s=retard&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=buffalo+joe


    Buffalo Joe says:

    WorkingClass, take it from a hard ass guy, “retards” is not an acceptable term. Otherwise, good thought.

    Reg Cæsar says:

    …take it from a hard ass guy, “retards” is not an acceptable term.

    Let alone “window lickers”.
     

    Buffalo Joe […] RIP.

    I assume that RIP does not indicate any inside knowledge on whether or not he is still among us the living, but rather an ironic way of saying he has hung up his cap in the iSteve comment section for his own reasons.

    I see he announced his comment-retirement, in anger, with his last post dated June 19, 2019 (or, “Trump comes down the escalator, +4 years, 3 days.”)

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I assume that RIP does not indicate any inside knowledge
     
    Your assumption is correct !
  29. @Hail

    Buffalo Joe [...] RIP.
     
    I assume that RIP does not indicate any inside knowledge on whether or not he is still among us the living, but rather an ironic way of saying he has hung up his cap in the iSteve comment section for his own reasons.

    I see he announced his comment-retirement, in anger, with his last post dated June 19, 2019 (or, "Trump comes down the escalator, +4 years, 3 days.")

    I assume that RIP does not indicate any inside knowledge

    Your assumption is correct !

  30. @Colin Wright
    The irony is that 'retard' is itself a euphemism.

    It implies that the subject is eventually going to be just as intelligent as the rest of us -- it'll just take him longer.

    It's much less hurtful than, say, 'stupid' or 'idiot.' That, of course, was the original idea.

    To say something less hurtful.

    Retarded has the advantage over modern day euphemisms in that it is roughly accurate. As long as the slower students are motivated they can eventually complete well-defined tasks. That of course leaves a great deal unsaid, which is how actual courtesy and compassion work, rather than weaponized virtue-signaling.

  31. My dad always told me, ‘Speak freely and own up to what you say.’ So I always speak freely as a man, and I speak how I want to speak.”

    Here’s hoping this becomes the new Zeroth Amendment.

    This is the Patriarchy the 21st Century needs.

    But often, in the world’s most crowded streets,
    But often, in the din of strife,
    There rises an unspeakable desire
    After the knowledge of our buried life;
    A thirst to spend our fire and restless force
    In tracking out our true, original course;
    A longing to inquire
    Into the mystery of this heart which beats
    So wild, so deep in us—to know
    Whence our lives come and where they go.
    And many a man in his own breast then delves,
    But deep enough, alas! none ever mines.
    And we have been on many thousand lines,
    And we have shown, on each, spirit and power;
    But hardly have we, for one little hour,
    Been on our own line, have we been ourselves—
    Hardly had skill to utter one of all
    The nameless feelings that course through our breast,
    But they course on for ever unexpress’d.
    And long we try in vain to speak and act
    Our hidden self, and what we say and do
    Is eloquent, is well—but ‘t is not true!
    And then we will no more be rack’d
    With inward striving, and demand
    Of all the thousand nothings of the hour
    Their stupefying power;
    Ah yes, and they benumb us at our call!
    Yet still, from time to time, vague and forlorn,
    From the soul’s subterranean depth upborne
    As from an infinitely distant land,
    Come airs, and floating echoes, and convey
    A melancholy into all our day.
    Only—but this is rare—
    When a belovèd hand is laid in ours,
    When, jaded with the rush and glare
    Of the interminable hours,
    Our eyes can in another’s eyes read clear,
    When our world-deafen’d ear
    Is by the tones of a loved voice caress’d—
    A bolt is shot back somewhere in our breast,
    And a lost pulse of feeling stirs again.
    The eye sinks inward, and the heart lies plain,
    And what we mean, we say, and what we would, we know.
    A man becomes aware of his life’s flow,
    And hears its winding murmur; and he sees
    The meadows where it glides, the sun, the breeze.

    And there arrives a lull in the hot race
    Wherein he doth for ever chase
    That flying and elusive shadow, rest.
    An air of coolness plays upon his face,
    And an unwonted calm pervades his breast.
    And then he thinks he knows
    The hills where his life rose,
    And the sea where it goes.

    – excerpt from Arnold’s The Buried Life I spoke from memory at my wedding (pretty sure we edited out a stretch there near the beginning)

  32. I have a friend who has a retarded older brother. She says when they were teenagers she and her younger sister would chastise anyone they heard using the word retard, not just about their brother but any context.

    Now (I think she’s late 30s), she says she and her sister call him “our retard brother”). They love him and will brag about something funny our retard brother did this weekend. They are disgusted when they hear someone say it’s an offensive term, not just to them but in any context. They know such a person is only virtue signaling and has no idea.

    Then again, I have another friend who has a mute mid twenties daughter with seizure disorders and she is convinced they were caused by childhood vaccinations. She hates when people use the word retard. It’s a sensitive issue for many.

    Respect for Jenkins not backing off.

    We used to always say a kid was a fag if he was unwilling to take a minor risk, or just as a general pejorative. Had nothing to do with perceived sexual orientation, although of course implied.

    It was the same with retard. It didn’t mean we thought you had developmental disabilities. It meant despite having no actual mental debilitation, they were dumb as a bag of rocks.

    I still use retard in front my daughter. And then tell her don’t repeat that at school, it can only cause trouble. Daddy doesn’t mean that person is mentally handicapped, other than in the sense they’re stupid as shit.

    I also had a boss, and I loved working for her. Foul mouthed, sense of humor. She wanted me to make a fairly disingenuous legal argument. I told her I didn’t want to, it wouldn’t work anyway,andUd lose their Judge’s respect. She laughed and said don’t be such a fag. Plus you have to, I’m your boss. I said ok, but you should tone it down,the guy in the next office down is gay. Which she knew. Didn’t bother her. She smiled and Sotho voce said “Like I said, don’t be such a fag.” Which I had to admit was a pretty good zing.

    Another time when she met my wife,18 years my junior, and my daughter, after she left she was like good thing your daughter takes after her mom. WTF do you have going on? We must pay you too much.

    Last story, once a black secretary brought her 5 year old son in. In front of a bunch of folks she rubbed his Afro and said I wish I had a watermelon. Jaws dropped. Later I asked her didn’t she know about the association of blacks with watermelon. She was like no, oh my god,we’d just say that whenever you saw a little kid, could be blonde, and you’d rub there head and say that. I told her maybe, but frankly, no one else in the room never heard it in any other context.

    The good thing was she could take it as well as dish it out. She was always overweight, hair Ames’s, sloppily dressed. One day she was wearing sneakers and a sweatshirt. I said are you going to aDragQueen est RoseanneBarr contest tonight? She was like har de har. Now you get the next ten cases that come through the door. But I didn’t.

    She was a lot of fun. Never politically correct. Would actually argue back during diversity trading. Saying I’m only here because they make me.

    She was from Canarsie. Her father owned a dry cleaners. He was murdered during a robbery back in the ‘70s. Tough broad. She retired early this year. They don’t make her type. Her replacement is a really nice guy retiring within a year himself. But he has no balls at all And would never say anything out of place. There’s more diversity, sexual harassment and implicit bias training than ever. BTW, I’m evidently implicitly biased for blacks. It’s pretty easy to game that stupid trading thing, even tough it’s supposed to be rapid fore Parallax View like quick clips you can’t fool.

    Fucking faggot retards.

  33. The fan should have been honored with the compliment.

    “Retard” makes them a lot smarter than almost all politicians, journalists, corporate and non-profit leaders, and “scientists” these days.

  34. There’s nothing wrong with term retarded.Same with negro.

  35. @ScarletNumber
    For those wondering, the National Association for Retarded Children is now Arc of the United States.

    My mom volunteered for over 40 years on behalf of retarded citizens, it was right in the name UPARC. Now the name is changed because of …reasons?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    It's part of the anti-bullying frenzy.

    Anti-bullying is to social skills what anti-vaxxing is to immune systems.
  36. @Achmed E. Newman
    It can't be that bad a word - the Airbus cockpit speaker yells out "RETARD" in a French accent about 20 ft. off the ground during landings. Most pilots don't take offense.

    It can’t be that bad a word – the Airbus cockpit speaker yells out “RETARD” in a French accent about 20 ft. off the ground during landings. Most pilots don’t take offense.

    When asked about aviation’s English-only rule, a Quebecois pilot stated that he’d no more use French in the cockpit than use English in the bedroom.

  37. @Barnard
    You are understanding his contract correctly. I would say there was a good chance he would have been released after the season to save salary cap space anyway. There is no way another team pays him $11 million next season.

    It doesn’t look like this had any effect on their ability to get out of the contract. Except maybe from a PR standpoint

  38. On Wednesday, Jenkins called a critical fan a “retard” when taking exception to questioning about why the stats Jenkins was using to showcase his effectiveness weren’t contributing to victories.

    The retard does have a point, though. Eleven losses ain’t worth eleven mil.

    Glad to hear my team still listens to the fans every once in a while. Now if they could only arrange to get better parts for Kate and Rooney

    At least Giants supporters can take comfort in the fact that the club is one of the few that have never sunk to the level of employing cheerleaders. Some of the old class remains.

  39. @anonymous
    Glad to know that the homosexuals who post here still keep up with their French idioms , Achmede

    A) That’s not an idiom.
    B) This is not the place to meet people – try the Mayor’s office in South Bend, Indiana.

  40. Anonymous[751] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost
    I thought the term in that age group said "R-tard",

    FWIW, I thought this old clip most interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4y57MfdXSE

    My fiancee and I are both UMC 35 year-olds.

    She was surprised to find out it’s now called “the r-word” when I told her about some podcast being considered “edgy” for using it (which I found bemusing).

    This is a pretty recent thing (post-twitter?) and to be fair to Janoris this was not even “hood slang” when I was growing up.

  41. @Hapalong Cassidy
    The irony is that a person who was actually mentally retarded probably wouldn’t have the acuity to be offended at being called a retard. Ok, so maybe the relative of said individual would be offended, which is understandable. But here’s the thing: nobody actually calls mentally retarded people retards. You use it to describe someone who does something foolish or annoys you.

    Hey, Mr. Cassidy, if you didn’t get that directly from Michael Scott of The Office then that’s amazing. Here’s 10 seconds of Michael Scott explaining this.

    Steve, I should have put this up earlier. It should be in the post.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  42. @Hapalong Cassidy
    The irony is that a person who was actually mentally retarded probably wouldn’t have the acuity to be offended at being called a retard. Ok, so maybe the relative of said individual would be offended, which is understandable. But here’s the thing: nobody actually calls mentally retarded people retards. You use it to describe someone who does something foolish or annoys you.

    That is not irony, exactly. It is retarded, though. I challenge the activists to bring forth one actual Forrest Gump character from the history of the universe since the Big Bang to testify that calling a retard a retard has ever once offended one real human.

    I tried to find Jenkins’ wonderlic score on the internet but no luck. If he had gotten a good score it would be widely publicized. Also he was kicked off the Florida football team for marijuana which is an indicator that he is not a smart fellow. The Chiefs and Texans could use a cornerback for sure. I don’t know how serious Sherman’s injury is. The 49er’s also are possibly looking for a corner. I wonder if his agent advised him to defy the Giants and he ends up playing in prime time in the post season. Which would be a win-win if you are the Giants’ management and a kick in the shins if you are a Giants fan.

    Why would anybody be a fan of the New York Giants right now is also a question that is beyond my powers of using internet search.

    (Forrest Gump seemed concerned that his child was smart but that was fiction.)

    • Replies: @Prester John
    They have reverted to the NY Giants of circa 1966-1978 before GM George Young (aided and abetted first by coach Ray Perkins and, later, coach Bill Parcells).
  43. @Dtbb
    My mom volunteered for over 40 years on behalf of retarded citizens, it was right in the name UPARC. Now the name is changed because of ...reasons?

    It’s part of the anti-bullying frenzy.

    Anti-bullying is to social skills what anti-vaxxing is to immune systems.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Anti-bullying
     
    That's what guns are for.
  44. I’m hoping his now ex-teammate Eli Manning will come to his defense- “My brother Peyton didn’t take any offense so I don’t know why anyone else should”.

  45. Has there been any effort to investigate if the person actually is a retard?

  46. @Hapalong Cassidy
    The irony is that a person who was actually mentally retarded probably wouldn’t have the acuity to be offended at being called a retard. Ok, so maybe the relative of said individual would be offended, which is understandable. But here’s the thing: nobody actually calls mentally retarded people retards. You use it to describe someone who does something foolish or annoys you.

    Back when Sarah Silverman was funny (2008) there was a scene on her show when she calls her sister “gay,” then apologizes to her two gay neighbors. “I don’t mean gay like homosexual,” she explains. “I mean gay like retarded.”

  47. anon[131] • Disclaimer says:

    I had an aunt, much beloved member of the family, who had downs symdrome. I was taught growing up not to say retard or retarded in a pejorative way, as it was unkind and ungentlemanly.
    I would still endorse a social prohibition on the use of “retard”, if we lived in a society that respected and enforced a code of gentlemanly behavior.
    Instead we live in a crude and nasty world where gentlemen are spat on and the only moral code enforced is political correctness.
    I do not belong in this country and I am looking forward with anticipation to the coming civil war. Edmund Ruffin, who fired the first cannon shot at Fort Sumnter, was 67 years old at the time.

  48. I blame the coaching staff. How hard would it be to hand-out a list of “Words you are not allowed to say anymore”? And, hold a few meetings on this subject. Explain that, like it or not, you are role models now. Explain that if you mess-up on this, and get let go, it could cost you millions. If the coaches already do this, I apologize — they are a step ahead of me.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting

    How hard would it be to hand-out a list of “Words you are not allowed to say anymore”?
     
    The list would create a book so heavy that only linemen would be able to lift it without injury!
  49. The world’s most important graph map:

    Are we ready?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    What?? I guess dark blue means none and purple means no data. Bad legend aside, there are plenty of kinds of perching birds around my house. We've seen owls too recently, perched about 20 ft up looking down on us. I live in light blue N. America. You live in dark blue N. America, Reg. Don't you see Blue Jays? Where do they come up with this garbage?
  50. @Desiderius
    It's part of the anti-bullying frenzy.

    Anti-bullying is to social skills what anti-vaxxing is to immune systems.

    Anti-bullying

    That’s what guns are for.

  51. NFL contracts are generally not guaranteed, so as you point out, they could have cut him anyway. (I don’t know enough about the guy to know whether that was likely pre-retard, though he was having a good season and $11.25M isn’t exorbitant for a borderline-star starting CB.)

    But the trend on contracts is changing, and more and more of them are at least partially guaranteed. (Atlanta QB Matt Ryan established a record with something like $100M of his $200M+ contract guaranteed.) Of course all contracts have clauses that the player can be released, and forfeit his guaranteed money, for bad behavior and other causes. It will be interesting to see how the Overton window is further expanded to count politically incorrect off-field speech as grounds for termination. Would the NFL Players Association sacrifice some wokeness to file a grievance in such a case?

    By the way, in the United Arab Emirates, they use the euphemism “people of determination” for cripples, invalids, and retards (of which there are many). (Left unanswered is whether this term is universal or can only be applied to people in such unfortunate circumstances who are in fact determined.)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Are the Giants trying to go 2-14 and get the first draft pick?

    Do NFL teams tank the way baseball teams have been doing since Houston started the trend?

  52. @Hapalong Cassidy
    The irony is that a person who was actually mentally retarded probably wouldn’t have the acuity to be offended at being called a retard. Ok, so maybe the relative of said individual would be offended, which is understandable. But here’s the thing: nobody actually calls mentally retarded people retards. You use it to describe someone who does something foolish or annoys you.

    Temple Grandin was kicked out of regular school, because someone called her a retard (intent matters – I am guessing she said it to hurt) and she chucked a book at her in anger. When my son was little, there was another autistic boy in school and his mother and I found out that even though our boys were bullied a bit, they were not perturbed, because it just flew over their heads. Then my boy had a period when he discovered double meanings and found even innocent remarks deeply suspicious. By now it is much better, he can take and make a joke instead of trying to scratch your face off. He still only manages only a sliver of the schoolwork normal kids do.
    There is an area where retarded people are still smart enough to realise they are retarded.

  53. My great-aunt Te Kahurangi (Meg) Matangi spent her entire adult life teaching mongoloids and other retards. Her ‘kids’ loved her, and near the end of her life she got an MBE for her work with retarded kids.

    She abhorred people who tried to pretend to be involved by forcing everyone to change nomenclature. When I was 11 she enjoined me to never succumb to that sort of nonsense, and in the 40-odd years since I never have.

    Fucking amazing woman, that one. Gentlest smile you ever saw, but could wilt a grown man with a stern look.

    She was also the inaugural captain of the NZ Netball team (in 1938), and was inducted into the Maori Sporting Hall of Fame post-mortem.

    Some people are genuinely special… retards aren’t special, they’re retarded. Hence the name.

    • Replies: @TWS
    Good for her, sounds like she was one in a million.
  54. @EdwardM
    NFL contracts are generally not guaranteed, so as you point out, they could have cut him anyway. (I don't know enough about the guy to know whether that was likely pre-retard, though he was having a good season and $11.25M isn't exorbitant for a borderline-star starting CB.)

    But the trend on contracts is changing, and more and more of them are at least partially guaranteed. (Atlanta QB Matt Ryan established a record with something like $100M of his $200M+ contract guaranteed.) Of course all contracts have clauses that the player can be released, and forfeit his guaranteed money, for bad behavior and other causes. It will be interesting to see how the Overton window is further expanded to count politically incorrect off-field speech as grounds for termination. Would the NFL Players Association sacrifice some wokeness to file a grievance in such a case?

    By the way, in the United Arab Emirates, they use the euphemism "people of determination" for cripples, invalids, and retards (of which there are many). (Left unanswered is whether this term is universal or can only be applied to people in such unfortunate circumstances who are in fact determined.)

    Are the Giants trying to go 2-14 and get the first draft pick?

    Do NFL teams tank the way baseball teams have been doing since Houston started the trend?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Mike Francesca thinks if they go 2-14 the coach and GM will both be fired, but if they can win 1 or 2 more games, they’ll be given another year.

    Usually when a head coach gets fired, he ends up back in the league, if not as a head coach than at least as a coordinator or something. Shurmur might be the rare one that fails out of the league. He doesn’t look like a guy who’s tanking; he looks lost.

    , @Desiderius
    Oh yes.

    This is the first season of my life that I haven't really followed my Bengals, but the one thing I am aware of is the battle for Joe Burrow.
    , @Kyle
    The colts tanked for one year so they could draft Luck. He was a great QB so that worked out well. The giants may be tanking for LSU quarterback Joe Burrow, but an even better strategy would be to tank next year for Trevor Lawrence.
  55. @Steve Sailer
    Are the Giants trying to go 2-14 and get the first draft pick?

    Do NFL teams tank the way baseball teams have been doing since Houston started the trend?

    Mike Francesca thinks if they go 2-14 the coach and GM will both be fired, but if they can win 1 or 2 more games, they’ll be given another year.

    Usually when a head coach gets fired, he ends up back in the league, if not as a head coach than at least as a coordinator or something. Shurmur might be the rare one that fails out of the league. He doesn’t look like a guy who’s tanking; he looks lost.

    • Replies: @Johnny789
    Shurmur was clueless when he was the Browns Head Coach, I couldn't believe it when he got another chance. Mike Holmgren only hired him for the Browns job because Pat's Uncle Fritz had been his DC in Green Bay.
  56. Speaking of NPR Morning Edition announcers, a comedian could have a lot of fun mocking the creepy prissy pretentious shysters.

  57. The Marxists/progressive philosophy is for every protected group to have its own equivalent of the n-word, that they can use as a cudgel against their enemies. For gays it’s “faggot.” Women took “cunt.” Transsexuals claim “tranny.” It will never end.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
    Is it "spic" or "beaner"? "Chink" or "Chinaman"?

    (By the way, why is it ok to call someone an Irishman or Frenchman, but not Chinaman?)

    , @Harry Baldwin
    On a 2009 episode of Curb Your Enthusiam, "Officer Krupke," Larry says "tranny" several times. Ira Glass used it several times on an early episode of This American Life. Stephen Colbert made a joke that included the line, "For instance, how many times have I accidentally picked up a tranny hooker at a truck-stop?"

    It just wasn't a big deal ten years ago. Five years ago it started becoming one.
    , @Desiderius
    Never is a long time.

    There's always a bigger asshole.
  58. Not being able to call someone retahded is offensive to my Boston heritage.

  59. Coming soon:

    Mechanic gets fired for telling customer her ignition is retarded.

  60. @Reg Cæsar
    The world's most important graph map:

    https://live.staticflickr.com/1828/43420720792_d8045d7a86_b.jpg

    Are we ready?

    What?? I guess dark blue means none and purple means no data. Bad legend aside, there are plenty of kinds of perching birds around my house. We’ve seen owls too recently, perched about 20 ft up looking down on us. I live in light blue N. America. You live in dark blue N. America, Reg. Don’t you see Blue Jays? Where do they come up with this garbage?

  61. Nothing wrong with calling someone (metaphorically) a retard in casual conversation, though these days even calling someone stupid or unintelligent is considered incorrect in professional circles where we prefer to say that someone makes poor decisions as if life were a multiple choice exam.

    In Florida we are an organization called ARC, which is an acronym for Association for Retarded Citizens. Non citizens need not apply.

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=florida+association+for+retarded+citizens&pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR

  62. So does this say that retards have a more highly-honored position on the victimology totem pole than the blacks? That is actually very surprising.

  63. @Frank G
    The Marxists/progressive philosophy is for every protected group to have its own equivalent of the n-word, that they can use as a cudgel against their enemies. For gays it’s “faggot.” Women took “cunt.” Transsexuals claim “tranny.” It will never end.

    Is it “spic” or “beaner”? “Chink” or “Chinaman”?

    (By the way, why is it ok to call someone an Irishman or Frenchman, but not Chinaman?)

  64. Anon[346] • Disclaimer says:

    It seems like in the past few years “retard” has become truly on par with “nigger” in some circles (if not worse), if how easily you can get banned for saying it on twitter and how many, many leftists bristle at it is anything to go by.

    I’m still surprised even terms like stupid and dumb still have parlance given how many “SJW” types earlier this decade were terrified of saying them or anything else they deemed “ableist” and opted for bizarre scatological insults like “shitlord” and “pissbaby” instead.

    I also remember them using “fuckboy” which was ironic given that had previous usage among blacks as a slur for gay men.

  65. @Kratoklastes
    My great-aunt Te Kahurangi (Meg) Matangi spent her entire adult life teaching mongoloids and other retards. Her 'kids' loved her, and near the end of her life she got an MBE for her work with retarded kids.

    She abhorred people who tried to pretend to be involved by forcing everyone to change nomenclature. When I was 11 she enjoined me to never succumb to that sort of nonsense, and in the 40-odd years since I never have.

    Fucking amazing woman, that one. Gentlest smile you ever saw, but could wilt a grown man with a stern look.

    She was also the inaugural captain of the NZ Netball team (in 1938), and was inducted into the Maori Sporting Hall of Fame post-mortem.

    https://www.silverferns.co.nz/images/silver-ferns/players/profile-margaret-matangi.jpg

    Some people are genuinely special... retards aren't special, they're retarded. Hence the name.

    Good for her, sounds like she was one in a million.

  66. Regarding the use of the term retard falling out of fashion:

    From Infogalactic under the term Intellectual Disability

    The terms used for this condition are subject to a process called the euphemism treadmill. This means that whatever term is chosen for this condition, it eventually becomes perceived as an insult. The terms mental retardation and mentally retarded were invented in the middle of the 20th century to replace the previous set of terms, which were deemed to have become offensive. By the end of the 20th century, these terms themselves have come to be widely seen as disparaging, politically incorrect, and in need of replacement.[9] The term intellectual disability is now preferred by most advocates and researchers in most English-speaking countries.

    As for what was used before retard:

    From Infogalactic under the term Moron_(psychology)

    “Moron” was coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[3] from the Ancient Greek word μωρός (moros), which meant “dull”[4] (as opposed to oxy, which meant “sharp” (see also: oxymoron)), and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale.[5] It was once applied to people with an IQ of 51–70, being superior in one degree to “imbecile” (IQ of 26–50) and superior in two degrees to “idiot” (IQ of 0–25). The word moron, along with others including, “idiotic”, “imbecilic”, “stupid”, and “feeble-minded”, was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    “Retard” has a nice zing to it that I don’t think “intellectually disabled” can ever muster. It needs to be shortened to a harsh and cutting slang word.
  67. @Ozymandias
    Never pick the antique horse when you're riding the euphemism carousel.

    Or in the alternative pick an old plug that’s older than antique: Retardate

  68. @Achmed E. Newman
    You are truly hilarious sometimes, Steve! That NPR talk though, hey that's my bit. You're welcome.

    I also agree that this cornerback sounds like a stand-up guy. I really gotta say that the average white guy would be more contrite for 2 reasons: 1) more likely to just be a cuck and 2) more forward-thinking, meaning not gonna say he's standing by his word after a talk with his agent, unless he really, really wants to take a stand for 11 million dollars. This guy popped off, but I do respect what he said.

    This is a great loophole for management and HR ladies everywhere.

    great loophole …

    Do cornerbacks get Wonderlic scores? Because if Jenkins’s was low, then firing him over this gaffe is a violation of Title II of the ADA. Dopes have to get reasonable accommodation for their disability, even when dissing other dopes.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    Cornerback performance and wonderlic score have a negative correlation:

    https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/sports/2012-04-05/the-nfl-beat-wonderlickin-bad/
  69. @Frank G
    The Marxists/progressive philosophy is for every protected group to have its own equivalent of the n-word, that they can use as a cudgel against their enemies. For gays it’s “faggot.” Women took “cunt.” Transsexuals claim “tranny.” It will never end.

    On a 2009 episode of Curb Your Enthusiam, “Officer Krupke,” Larry says “tranny” several times. Ira Glass used it several times on an early episode of This American Life. Stephen Colbert made a joke that included the line, “For instance, how many times have I accidentally picked up a tranny hooker at a truck-stop?”

    It just wasn’t a big deal ten years ago. Five years ago it started becoming one.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    The 40 Year Old Virgin (2005) used tranny as a punchline as well. I'm sure if Carell and Apatow were making that movie now, they wouldn't include the tranny hooker, who was played by an actual tranny who goes by the name Jazzmun.
  70. @Steve Sailer
    Are the Giants trying to go 2-14 and get the first draft pick?

    Do NFL teams tank the way baseball teams have been doing since Houston started the trend?

    Oh yes.

    This is the first season of my life that I haven’t really followed my Bengals, but the one thing I am aware of is the battle for Joe Burrow.

  71. @Frank G
    The Marxists/progressive philosophy is for every protected group to have its own equivalent of the n-word, that they can use as a cudgel against their enemies. For gays it’s “faggot.” Women took “cunt.” Transsexuals claim “tranny.” It will never end.

    Never is a long time.

    There’s always a bigger asshole.

  72. @R.G. Camara
    Trump could score a coup if this dude is patriotic enough to denounce kneeling for the flag. Trump could bring him up to the podium as a victim of political correctness and how corrupt the NFL is, and this dude could denounce the NFL as "slaveowners" and "anti-black" and "anti-American" and hug Trump.

    Yeah, I'm not calling for blacks as "natural conservatives", I just think the event would be another boffo mind f u ck for the the Leftists.

    P.S. Trump's had it in for the NFL ever since they screwed over him and the USFL back in the early 1980s and blocked later attempts by him to own teams. He talks about it The Art of the Deal.

    That would be a deft act of political jiu-jitsu, so he won’t do it.

    • Agree: Autochthon
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    The guy memed his way into the presidency and defeateded 18 other candidates with more personal campaign experience, including the first major party female candidate for president (thus garnering a lot of "I want to vote for the first girl president" extra votes) who was the secretary of state for the outgoing popular incumbent?

    That guy is incapable of a "deft act of political jiu-jitsu"?

    Trump is single-handedly responsible for getting Kanye West to promote a Republican candidate (him) and switch sides of the aisle. If you count this man as clumsy politically, I don't know what to say to you.

  73. Frank Robinson dissed the Mets before the ‘69 Series. He said he’d never heard of outfielder Ron Gaspar. Paul Blair corrected him, “It’s Rod, stupid,” to which Robinson replied, “all right, bring on Rod Stupid.”

  74. @ScarletNumber

    Jenkins’ refusal to admit that what he did was wrong led to his release
     
    Sadly, this is way things are in 2019. You aren't punished based on what you did wrong, but on how contrite you seem after you are caught. I give Jenkins a lot of credit for not backing down.

    In my local paper, the Giants beat writer was wringing his hands in his column this morning.
    However, not only did he not use the word "retard", but he didn't even use the term "r word", instead noting "the Special Olympics has described the term Jenkins used as 'hurtful and painful' and 'the same as any slur used against any minority group.'" It's amazing that as a reader of the newspaper I have to guess what the news is.

    As a Giants fan, I will say without reservation that our last two coaches and GM's have been retards.

    “I give Jenkins a lot of credit for not backing down.”

    Yeah, there’s something to be said for standing one’s ground. Though unlikely, it’ll be interesting to see how he responds if he is blackballed (no pun intended) by the league.

  75. @Morton's toes
    That is not irony, exactly. It is retarded, though. I challenge the activists to bring forth one actual Forrest Gump character from the history of the universe since the Big Bang to testify that calling a retard a retard has ever once offended one real human.

    I tried to find Jenkins' wonderlic score on the internet but no luck. If he had gotten a good score it would be widely publicized. Also he was kicked off the Florida football team for marijuana which is an indicator that he is not a smart fellow. The Chiefs and Texans could use a cornerback for sure. I don't know how serious Sherman's injury is. The 49er's also are possibly looking for a corner. I wonder if his agent advised him to defy the Giants and he ends up playing in prime time in the post season. Which would be a win-win if you are the Giants' management and a kick in the shins if you are a Giants fan.

    Why would anybody be a fan of the New York Giants right now is also a question that is beyond my powers of using internet search.

    (Forrest Gump seemed concerned that his child was smart but that was fiction.)

    They have reverted to the NY Giants of circa 1966-1978 before GM George Young (aided and abetted first by coach Ray Perkins and, later, coach Bill Parcells).

  76. @Dave Pinsen
    Mike Francesca thinks if they go 2-14 the coach and GM will both be fired, but if they can win 1 or 2 more games, they’ll be given another year.

    Usually when a head coach gets fired, he ends up back in the league, if not as a head coach than at least as a coordinator or something. Shurmur might be the rare one that fails out of the league. He doesn’t look like a guy who’s tanking; he looks lost.

    Shurmur was clueless when he was the Browns Head Coach, I couldn’t believe it when he got another chance. Mike Holmgren only hired him for the Browns job because Pat’s Uncle Fritz had been his DC in Green Bay.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Yeah, he came to the Giants with a losing record, and now he’s like 17-45 or something like that as head coach. He agreed to do a weekly interview with Francesca before the season started but stopped coming on when Francesca asked him why he was the one to turn the Giants around given his losing record. That was before the 9-game losing streak.
  77. @SafeNow
    I blame the coaching staff. How hard would it be to hand-out a list of “Words you are not allowed to say anymore”? And, hold a few meetings on this subject. Explain that, like it or not, you are role models now. Explain that if you mess-up on this, and get let go, it could cost you millions. If the coaches already do this, I apologize — they are a step ahead of me.

    How hard would it be to hand-out a list of “Words you are not allowed to say anymore”?

    The list would create a book so heavy that only linemen would be able to lift it without injury!

  78. I heard about the story but not what he’d said. So I just assumed it was some verboten ethnic or anti-gay slur and was surprised it was so relatively harmless — to me at least. “Retard” was about all we ever called each other in the ’70s, with homo, pussy and pussy-whipped filling out the lexicon. Also surprised a black guy would use it at all, always seemed kind of white to me.

  79. @Marty
    great loophole ...

    Do cornerbacks get Wonderlic scores? Because if Jenkins’s was low, then firing him over this gaffe is a violation of Title II of the ADA. Dopes have to get reasonable accommodation for their disability, even when dissing other dopes.

    Cornerback performance and wonderlic score have a negative correlation:

    https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/sports/2012-04-05/the-nfl-beat-wonderlickin-bad/

  80. @BenKenobi
    That would be a deft act of political jiu-jitsu, so he won't do it.

    The guy memed his way into the presidency and defeateded 18 other candidates with more personal campaign experience, including the first major party female candidate for president (thus garnering a lot of “I want to vote for the first girl president” extra votes) who was the secretary of state for the outgoing popular incumbent?

    That guy is incapable of a “deft act of political jiu-jitsu”?

    Trump is single-handedly responsible for getting Kanye West to promote a Republican candidate (him) and switch sides of the aisle. If you count this man as clumsy politically, I don’t know what to say to you.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    I was expecting to personally be prodding deportees onto barges at bayonet point by now.

    So yes I’m quite disappointed.

    , @Autochthon
    As Jordan Peterson has astutely pointed out: Trump did not win the election – the other idiots lost it.

    This nuanced distinction is important to understanding how intelligent Trump is – he is not. (Though he is a good confidence man, this is a result of his Charisma score, not his Intelligence score, as it were – much as Jaco Pastorius, for all his brilliance at mathematically sophisticated rhythms, was never going to apply advanced calculus to solving dilemmas of astrophysics).
  81. @Johnny789
    Shurmur was clueless when he was the Browns Head Coach, I couldn't believe it when he got another chance. Mike Holmgren only hired him for the Browns job because Pat's Uncle Fritz had been his DC in Green Bay.

    Yeah, he came to the Giants with a losing record, and now he’s like 17-45 or something like that as head coach. He agreed to do a weekly interview with Francesca before the season started but stopped coming on when Francesca asked him why he was the one to turn the Giants around given his losing record. That was before the 9-game losing streak.

  82. @Harry Baldwin
    On a 2009 episode of Curb Your Enthusiam, "Officer Krupke," Larry says "tranny" several times. Ira Glass used it several times on an early episode of This American Life. Stephen Colbert made a joke that included the line, "For instance, how many times have I accidentally picked up a tranny hooker at a truck-stop?"

    It just wasn't a big deal ten years ago. Five years ago it started becoming one.

    The 40 Year Old Virgin (2005) used tranny as a punchline as well. I’m sure if Carell and Apatow were making that movie now, they wouldn’t include the tranny hooker, who was played by an actual tranny who goes by the name Jazzmun.

  83. @R.G. Camara
    Trump could score a coup if this dude is patriotic enough to denounce kneeling for the flag. Trump could bring him up to the podium as a victim of political correctness and how corrupt the NFL is, and this dude could denounce the NFL as "slaveowners" and "anti-black" and "anti-American" and hug Trump.

    Yeah, I'm not calling for blacks as "natural conservatives", I just think the event would be another boffo mind f u ck for the the Leftists.

    P.S. Trump's had it in for the NFL ever since they screwed over him and the USFL back in the early 1980s and blocked later attempts by him to own teams. He talks about it The Art of the Deal.

    Probably would lead to another article of impeachment.

  84. @anonymous
    Glad to know that the homosexuals who post here still keep up with their French idioms , Achmede

    Je ne comprends pas.

  85. @Kronos

    The Giants are 2-11 this year and probably aren’t going to be a whole lot better next year, so why pay a 30-something defender $11.25 million when you can wriggle out of your contractual obligation by being shocked, shocked that he used the word “retard”? (Let me know if I’m misinterpreting the contractual implications.)
     
    Any idea if they got rid of the “Papa John’s” pizza guy for similar reasons?

    https://youtu.be/gfupZhX178w

    Any idea if they got rid of the “Papa John’s” pizza guy for similar reasons?

    John Schnatter (Papa John) was involved in a contractual dispute with Casey Wasserman, a member of a certain tribe, who claimed that Papa John’s owed his marketing company, Laundry Service, exactly $6 million [no, I’m not kidding]. This dispute had absolutely nothing to do with with the sustained attack on Schnatter by “news” media outlets owned by Wasserman’s co-ethnics, though.

    Honest.

    Also of note:

    – Schnatter is of German ancestry, so anti-German hatred may well have played a role as well.

    – Schnatter objected vigorously to the NFL’s promotion of anti-white/ anti-American antics by its employees. His stance was not a popular one with media oligarchs.

    – Papa John also donated to Trump and Rand Paul, and took several other political positions that ran contrary to the “woke capitalism” party line.

    Of course, all of this had nothing to do with the anti-Papa John witch hunt. It was all about an important intersectional infraction — a passing reference to a now-taboo word, made in a secretly-recorded private conversation.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Wow, that’s good to know. Thanks!
  86. The Giants are 2-11 this year and probably aren’t going to be a whole lot better next year, so why pay a 30-something defender $11.25 million when you can wriggle out of your contractual obligation by being shocked, shocked that he used the word “retard”? (Let me know if I’m misinterpreting the contractual implications.)

    It’s almost as if the inherently-subjective nature of oppressor/victim narratives — the lack of a clearly-defined hierarchy to the “progressive stack” — means that putative episodes of “oppression” can be easily weaponized (or manufactured) for purposes that remain obscure to the general public targeted by those narratives. Or something.

  87. @Steve Sailer
    Are the Giants trying to go 2-14 and get the first draft pick?

    Do NFL teams tank the way baseball teams have been doing since Houston started the trend?

    The colts tanked for one year so they could draft Luck. He was a great QB so that worked out well. The giants may be tanking for LSU quarterback Joe Burrow, but an even better strategy would be to tank next year for Trevor Lawrence.

  88. @Tom Wilkes
    Regarding the use of the term retard falling out of fashion:

    From Infogalactic under the term Intellectual Disability

    The terms used for this condition are subject to a process called the euphemism treadmill. This means that whatever term is chosen for this condition, it eventually becomes perceived as an insult. The terms mental retardation and mentally retarded were invented in the middle of the 20th century to replace the previous set of terms, which were deemed to have become offensive. By the end of the 20th century, these terms themselves have come to be widely seen as disparaging, politically incorrect, and in need of replacement.[9] The term intellectual disability is now preferred by most advocates and researchers in most English-speaking countries.

    As for what was used before retard:

    From Infogalactic under the term Moron_(psychology)

    "Moron" was coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[3] from the Ancient Greek word μωρός (moros), which meant "dull"[4] (as opposed to oxy, which meant "sharp" (see also: oxymoron)), and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale.[5] It was once applied to people with an IQ of 51–70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26–50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0–25). The word moron, along with others including, "idiotic", "imbecilic", "stupid", and "feeble-minded", was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists.

    “Retard” has a nice zing to it that I don’t think “intellectually disabled” can ever muster. It needs to be shortened to a harsh and cutting slang word.

  89. I have a coworker whose son in high school is constantly getting in trouble for using “Retard” as a noun. In spite of constant and intense “re-education” i.e. suspensions, being sent to the principal’s office, etc. the poor kid just seems to not “get” re-educated. Maybe because his father doesn’t really take the efforts at “re-education” seriously i.e. his lectures to his son in support of the “authorities” are intentionally obviously insincere?

    • Replies: @donvonburg
    The old man is doing the kid a disservice in that continued defiance of the school authorities without a good reason is both giving the kid a bad habit and getting him quietly marked as a troublemaker. Someday he'll want to do something like accepting an AFSC in the Air Force where you have to be on PRP, applying to pharmacy school, or applying for some job where they get really, really nosy about your past and he will not get that job or be accepted into that school (or worse, get in the school and then face licensure issues). School records are not sealed against really serious inquiries of that nature when it's the government or their favored contractors involved.

    There are times when authority must, morally, be defied, but a prohibition against calling people "retards" is not one of them. I dislike political correctness intensely, but I do not go out of my way to offend nor to challenge authority without good reason.

    If the kid absolutely refuses to modify his behavior, the school will probably eventually find a pretext to expel him or impact him in some other way. If he expects to get into a selective college (it sounds like we are dealing with semi-lumpenproles here) this will be bad.
  90. @anonymous
    Glad to know that the homosexuals who post here still keep up with their French idioms , Achmede

    Glad to know that the homosexuals who post here still keep up with their French idioms , Achmede

    I’m a bit rusty on French.

    What do you mean when you boast “Je suis Charlie Hebdo”?

  91. @MarkinPNW
    I have a coworker whose son in high school is constantly getting in trouble for using "Retard" as a noun. In spite of constant and intense "re-education" i.e. suspensions, being sent to the principal's office, etc. the poor kid just seems to not "get" re-educated. Maybe because his father doesn't really take the efforts at "re-education" seriously i.e. his lectures to his son in support of the "authorities" are intentionally obviously insincere?

    The old man is doing the kid a disservice in that continued defiance of the school authorities without a good reason is both giving the kid a bad habit and getting him quietly marked as a troublemaker. Someday he’ll want to do something like accepting an AFSC in the Air Force where you have to be on PRP, applying to pharmacy school, or applying for some job where they get really, really nosy about your past and he will not get that job or be accepted into that school (or worse, get in the school and then face licensure issues). School records are not sealed against really serious inquiries of that nature when it’s the government or their favored contractors involved.

    There are times when authority must, morally, be defied, but a prohibition against calling people “retards” is not one of them. I dislike political correctness intensely, but I do not go out of my way to offend nor to challenge authority without good reason.

    If the kid absolutely refuses to modify his behavior, the school will probably eventually find a pretext to expel him or impact him in some other way. If he expects to get into a selective college (it sounds like we are dealing with semi-lumpenproles here) this will be bad.

  92. @Anonymous
    What is you, a moron ?

    For children now they say, " developmentally delayed" instead of slow or autistic.

    The euphemism treadmill. Don’t know about the States, but over here I sometimes hear people sarcastically using “special” to describe a backward individual, from “special school”.

    “A special school is a school catering for students who have special educational needs due to learning difficulties, physical disabilities or behavioral problems. Special schools may be specifically designed, staffed and resourced to provide appropriate special education for children with additional needs. Students attending special schools generally do not attend any classes in mainstream schools.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_disability#Terminology

    “Retarded comes from the Latin retardare, “to make slow, delay, keep back, or hinder,” so mental retardation meant the same as mentally delayed. The term was recorded in 1426 as a “fact or action of making slower in movement or time”. The first record of retarded in relation to being mentally slow was in 1895. The term mentally retarded was used to replace terms like idiot, moron, and imbecile because retarded was not then a derogatory term. By the 1960s, however, the term had taken on a partially derogatory meaning as well. The noun retard is particularly seen as pejorative; a BBC survey in 2003 ranked it as the most offensive disability-related word, ahead of terms such as spastic (or its abbreviation spaz) and mong. The terms mentally retarded and mental retardation are still fairly common, but currently the Special Olympics, Best Buddies, and over 100 other organizations are striving to eliminate their use by referring to the word retard and its variants as the “r-word”, in an effort to equate it to the word nigger and the associated euphemism “n-word”, in everyday conversation. These efforts have resulted in federal legislation, sometimes known as “Rosa’s Law”, to replace the term mentally retarded with the term intellectual disability in some federal statutes.

    The term mental retardation was a diagnostic term denoting the group of disconnected categories of mental functioning such as idiot, imbecile, and moron derived from early IQ tests, which acquired pejorative connotations in popular discourse. It acquired negative and shameful connotations over the last few decades due to the use of the words retarded and retard as insults. This may have contributed to its replacement with euphemisms such as mentally challenged or intellectually disabled. While developmental disability includes many other disorders, developmental disability and developmental delay (for people under the age of 18) are generally considered more polite terms than mental retardation.”

  93. @R.G. Camara
    The guy memed his way into the presidency and defeateded 18 other candidates with more personal campaign experience, including the first major party female candidate for president (thus garnering a lot of "I want to vote for the first girl president" extra votes) who was the secretary of state for the outgoing popular incumbent?

    That guy is incapable of a "deft act of political jiu-jitsu"?

    Trump is single-handedly responsible for getting Kanye West to promote a Republican candidate (him) and switch sides of the aisle. If you count this man as clumsy politically, I don't know what to say to you.

    I was expecting to personally be prodding deportees onto barges at bayonet point by now.

    So yes I’m quite disappointed.

  94. @James Forrestal

    Any idea if they got rid of the “Papa John’s” pizza guy for similar reasons?
     
    John Schnatter (Papa John) was involved in a contractual dispute with Casey Wasserman, a member of a certain tribe, who claimed that Papa John's owed his marketing company, Laundry Service, exactly $6 million [no, I'm not kidding]. This dispute had absolutely nothing to do with with the sustained attack on Schnatter by "news" media outlets owned by Wasserman's co-ethnics, though.

    Honest.

    Also of note:

    - Schnatter is of German ancestry, so anti-German hatred may well have played a role as well.

    - Schnatter objected vigorously to the NFL's promotion of anti-white/ anti-American antics by its employees. His stance was not a popular one with media oligarchs.

    - Papa John also donated to Trump and Rand Paul, and took several other political positions that ran contrary to the "woke capitalism" party line.

    Of course, all of this had nothing to do with the anti-Papa John witch hunt. It was all about an important intersectional infraction -- a passing reference to a now-taboo word, made in a secretly-recorded private conversation.

    Wow, that’s good to know. Thanks!

  95. A prominently displayed sign in Brussels in 2013 (from memory and minimal grasp of French): “L’ecole de les retards.” A school for retards. The word just means delayed, tardy.

    I remember in 1981 a friend of mine who was a special ed teacher (oops, exceptional ed I guess is now the accepted terminology) referred to her charges as “the tards.” Sixteen years later, having not seen her for the previous 12, I asked her how it was going with the tards, and immediately felt the icy, condescending condemnation of PC ZUSA. “Tards?” she asked, as if she had never used the expression.

  96. @R.G. Camara
    The guy memed his way into the presidency and defeateded 18 other candidates with more personal campaign experience, including the first major party female candidate for president (thus garnering a lot of "I want to vote for the first girl president" extra votes) who was the secretary of state for the outgoing popular incumbent?

    That guy is incapable of a "deft act of political jiu-jitsu"?

    Trump is single-handedly responsible for getting Kanye West to promote a Republican candidate (him) and switch sides of the aisle. If you count this man as clumsy politically, I don't know what to say to you.

    As Jordan Peterson has astutely pointed out: Trump did not win the election – the other idiots lost it.

    This nuanced distinction is important to understanding how intelligent Trump is – he is not. (Though he is a good confidence man, this is a result of his Charisma score, not his Intelligence score, as it were – much as Jaco Pastorius, for all his brilliance at mathematically sophisticated rhythms, was never going to apply advanced calculus to solving dilemmas of astrophysics).

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