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I actually don’t know anything about football these days, but I thought this email from a friend was funny:

#1 draft pick Trevor Lawrence of Clemson looks like he’ll be an all-timer

This guy is 86-4 as a starter going back to high school.

He looks rather like a recent reconstruction of Shakespeare’s bad guy King Richard the Third.

Here is Mrs. Lawrence, who is adorable.

Zach Wilson (just taken #2) looks like a classic bust

But this BYU quarterback might (or might not) go on a mission for 2 years, so who knows? Here he is (second from right):

His dad is a gigantic fat guy, but his mom, a 48-year-old mother of six (third from right), looks pretty awesome. He has some bit of Hawaiian ancestry, so he is Diverse.

Two BYU quarterbacks have won Super Bowls — Jim McMahon of the Bears (not a Mormon) and Steve Young of the 49ers (a direct descendant of Brigham Young, and, I suspect, a definite Big Man on Campus) — have won Super Bowls. Neither went on missions.

Anyway, don’t quote me on this. As Malcolm Gladwell pointed out a dozen years ago, it is hard to predict who will succeed at QB in the NFL.

By the way, what percentage of NFL quarterbacks are blue-eyed?

My vague impression is that blue-eyed guys are more courageous under fire: they are colder-blooded and less likely to panic under pressure.

The smartest quarterback to win an NFL championship was Frank Ryan of the Cleveland Browns, who earned a Ph.D. from Rice U. in math for his dissertation “A Characterization of the Set of Asymptotic Values of a Function Holomorphic in the Unit Disc.”

Granted, Ryan had Jim Brown to hand off to.

But Ryan earned the loyalty of his teammates not by making smart decisions on the football field (they didn’t think he was all that cunning of a decision-maker), but by making brave decisions. He held onto the ball until the last possible moment before he got wiped out by a charging defensive player before passing to the open man.

 
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  1. JR Ewing says:

    Trevor Lawrence has the biggest face in the history of the world. Not sure how one would measure it, but it’s pretty obvious when you look at him. It’s like a jack o lantern carved into a large pumpkin.

    And I’m pretty sure Wilson’s mom doesn’t have to wear a life jacket when out on the open water. She’ll just float right side up indefinitely until she’s rescued.

  2. Thoughts says:

    Neither.

    The second guy looks like the male version of a toy poodle.

    The first guy, though somewhat ? good looking, may underperform because his face is narrow and forehead a bit slopey.

    Tom Brady is your model for the perfect male. See that gorgeous, high forehead Tom has without a slope and totally square…Oh that’s some good Frontal Lobe IQ right there.

    Both of the above white males are Liberals. Trust Me.

    • Replies: @niccolo
    , @Truth
    , @Danindc
    , @KenH
  3. One of the many bajillions of reasons why USA is slowly devouring itself up its own arshole is how ‘mericans worship height

    Trump (6 foot 2) was beaten by Biden (6 foot 5) on account of 3 inches, which alt-right has been apoplexic since.

    “mericans worship height. ^ foot 11 inches of purefiltered bullshit is a yank’s fever dream come real.

    There’s nothing more a yank looks forward to than being lectured from above, looked down on as they look up, and being put in their place by someone who looks down on them

    Pretty much 99% of yanks I’ve ever met worhsip height like it’s a metric laid down by ancient gods who told the Egyptians how to plan their pyramids to trap eternal electricity.

    ‘mericans can go mearure themselves

  4. njguy73 says:

    McMahon didn’t go on a Mormon mission for an excellent reason:

    He’s not Mormon. He’s Catholic who only went to BYU because it was a pass-first program. He did have to abide by the BYU code of conduct, though.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  5. @Pat Hannagan

    Biden isn’t short, but he’s about a standard deviation shorter than Trump.

  6. Lawrence is one of three children of Jeremy and Amanda Lawrence. Lawrence is a Christian….

    On April 10, 2021, Lawrence married Marissa Mowry, whom he had been dating since high school.

    Lawrence is 6′ 6″ and born in 1999, after my university graduation. I feel infantile and elderly at the same time.

    May the Christian defeat the Mormon born of “silicon mom”. Amen.

    • LOL: bomag
  7. Fredrik says:

    Don’t follow the sport but I did notice the conundrum of why the Great Black Quarterback hope was falling in the rankings. I guess not being as good as the white guys wasn’t good enough of an explanation.

    Of these two candidate number two looks like the archetypical ‘winner’. I’m sure the girls like him…

  8. black sea says:

    I’ve been hearing about Trevor Lawrence since he was in high school, not because I’m that into football, but because there were articles about him in the Atlanta paper (he grew up about 50 miles away). He was surprisingly poised and articulate for a kid, though he did look kind of goofy back then. Here he is at the age of 14:

    • Thanks: Polistra
    • Replies: @fredtard
  9. Defenses win Superbowls. Tom Terrific is only as good as the offensive line in front of him. Plus I have heard rumors Giselle does a little voodoo magic for her man. Finally Genghis Khan, the great conquer and prolific breeder, was rumored to be green eyed. Doesn’t really matter, but I thought I would put in a plug for green eyes,

    • Thanks: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Icy Blast
    , @Anon
    , @Curmudgeon
    , @Jake
  10. Feryl says:
    @njguy73

    Mchmahon has Celtic hell raiser written all over him, I doubt he has much genetic similarity to goody two shoes Mormon puritans.

    • Agree: Wade Hampton, AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  11. @Steve Sailer

    He looks slim, athletic and a good 3 inches on Trump on TV. He’s also got way better teeth, for fuck’s sake Biden’s teeth resonate a harmonic 528 Hz Solfeggio scale!

    What have you got? reality?

  12. gent says:
    @SFG

    In response, he said, Mr. Baca, the board chairman, “accused me — a Jewish trustee — of harboring a secret agenda to grab power.”

    Why is it I can perfectly hear the nasally voice?

    In an interview on Friday, Mr. Baca acknowledged mentioning a power grab in a long and contentious discussion but said he had not known that Dr. Pollack-Pelzner was Jewish or that the comment could be construed as anti-Semitic.

    Let this be a lesson to the professor. Anti-semitism means anything that does not align with jewish interests, it does not matter if it is intentional or not.

    • Agree: ben tillman, Polistra
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  13. Feryl says:

    Quarterbacks (and kickers) tend to act very “white”. Even some of the black ones, like Russel Wilson and RG3 (who was called a “cornball brother”). Cerebral, calm, highly professional, focused, etc. Coming out of college, Dan Marino had a reputation as too wild off the field, yet in interviews he seems kind of awkward and nerdy. Peyton Manning is about as amiable and smooth an off the field personality as a quarterback gets, even Brady is kind of a dork. On the other hand, defensive players (esp. the linemen) tend to be “black”. Raucous, obstreperous, fun loving, etc. And a little bit dumb. Even the white ones. The vast majority of psychos, debauched party animals, etc seem to be D-linemen although there are some of these guys at linebacker and Safety as well. White safeties Doug Plank* and esp Chuck Cecil used their helmets as torpedos and ended up retiring from scrambling their own brains too much. Interestingly, though, cornerbacks tend to have higher longevity and are more ectomorphic than other defenders. Not surprisingly, they seem a bit more reserved than the other positions.

    *Plank’s Yale grad Bears teammate Gary Fencik played more conservatively, had a longer career on the field and a highly lucrative post-football career, and says that he does not feel any long-term health effects from football. I think we need to examine the issue of IQ, playing style, and long-term mental effects. Let’s face it, using your head as a weapon probably means you didn’t start out with much brains to begin with.

  14. Slim says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    Biden is 2 to three inches shorter than Trump.
    More proof he didn’t win legitimately.

    • LOL: Polistra
  15. @JR Ewing

    And I’m pretty sure Wilson’s mom doesn’t have to wear a life jacket when out on the open water. She’ll just float right side up indefinitely until she’s rescued.

    In related news:

    Craig Carton blasted for asking Zach Wilson about his ‘really hot’ mom

    https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/jets-zach-wilson-asked-about-mom-lisa-in-awkward-interview/

  16. BB753 says:

    Trevor Lawrence looks like a Serb or Croatian or even like a Northern Italian with that long face and chiseled features.

  17. Slim says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    You do know he wears dentures, right?

    • LOL: ben tillman
    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Anonymous
  18. black sea says:
    @Feryl

    Steve McMichael, a defensive lineman for the Superbowl-era Chicago Bears, has recently announced that he has ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease), which a lot of football players seem to develop as a result of long-term brain trauma, and which has to be a particularly unpleasant way to go. Tim Green, former Atlanta Falcon and NPR commentator, as well as author, is suffering from the same disease.

    Trevor Lawrence’s former Clemson teammate, Nolan Turner, is the son of Kevin Turner, who had a long NFL career as a fullback, and subsequently died of ALS. I don’t know what to make of someone who watches his father go through that, then plays college football himself.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    , @TWS
    , @mmack
  19. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @JR Ewing

    Bigger than John Kerry’s face?

  20. niccolo says:
    @Thoughts

    is this salo ‘thoughts’?

  21. indocon says:

    I have simple rule for QBs – diamond ear rings and tattoos do not equate to championship or even repeat playoff type QBs. The new niners QB has both, and he was drafted by none other than Shanahan family! I think if they stayed at #12 pick, they may well have been able to draft the next version of Tom Brady, Mac Jones, but by giving all those picks to move to #3, they were forced into their pick.

    • Replies: @Travis
  22. Icy Blast says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Football is of very little importance. But it is evident from your post that you have no idea what you are talking about. The “defense wins championships” cliche gives you away. And the ridiculous statements about Brady reveal your ignorance also.

    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Troll: HammerJack, Clyde
  23. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:

    “ My vague impression is that blue-eyed guys are more courageous under fire: they are colder-blooded and less likely to panic under pressure.”

    What is the basis for this comment?

    Zach Wilson looks a lot like Sam Darnold facially.

    Also, Zach Wilson’s wiki says he has ADHD. Not a good sign for an NFL QB. I’m sure Ryan Leaf couldn’t focus and had it. Tom Brady seems to have laser-like focus.

    • Replies: @Curle
  24. My vague impression is that blue-eyed guys are more courageous under fire: they are colder-blooded and less likely to panic under pressure.

    You and your Nordicism. But there is something to this about men bred from colder climates. QB skillsets I’d say is most like driving tanks or fighter pilots, in which Germanics dominate.

    Whereas in soccer Germanics don’t appear to have advantage over Meds.

    The parallel in the East is more north, the more epicanthic folds. Jury is still out on whether northerners are better tank drivers.

    From the movie Mongol:

  25. @Steve Sailer

    Trump is maybe 6‘1“ in reality. The „girther“ movement went into that in depth a few years ago.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @John Up North
    , @e
  26. Truth says:
    @JR Ewing

    Trevor Lawrence has the biggest face in the history of the world.

    That’s a growth hormone program from childhood.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
  27. @Pat Hannagan

    To all my fellow Sailerites, we are living the last days of man as prophesied, it should fill us with rejoicing, but we are full of doubt and concern, righteosuly.

    Don’t take the vaccine, don’t be sheep

    Sometimes I drink more than I need
    Until the TV’s dead and gone
    I may be lonely
    But I’m never alone
    And the night may pass me by
    But I’ll never cry

    Don’t take the vaccine

    • Replies: @Lurker
  28. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Tom Terrific’s offensive line is only so good (and his lines have only been so good for more than two decades now) because he does the opposite of what Steve describes Frank Ryan doing. Brady gets rid of the ball faster than anyone to ever play the position, and he’s gotten faster at it over time. Less time blocking, less chance of Brady getting sacked, less chance of wear and tear or catastrophic injury on his blockers.

  29. Truth says:
    @Thoughts

    The second guy looks like the male version of a toy poodle.

    That’s funny, because the guy who was picked directly after him looks just like the black version of the same guy.

    • LOL: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Ed
  30. Horthans says:

    Wilson’s mother’s augmentations are not surprising as Salt Lake City has the second highest number of plastic surgeons per capita of all U. S. cities.

    Mormon theology would seem to be playing a part in this as devout Mormon men, once they become gods in the afterlife, get to choose if their earthly spouses will join them in celestial glory. Looking fit and trim after shooting out six kids often requires technological assistance.

  31. @JR Ewing

    JR, you win the “take another look” funny comment of the day !

  32. Like….who fucking cares about NFL NEGRO BALL WORSHIP….fucking retards….outsourcing your manhood to jocks….

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  33. Feryl says:
    @black sea

    Yeah, I saw recent videos with McMicheal on YouTube. He’s shrank dramatically, before the onset of ALS the guy was always massive (which leads me to believe he wasn’t much of a roider in his playing days, the guys who get way into PEDs tend to quickly shrink after they got off the drugs).

    BTW, the defensive players usually they have no regrets. These are legacy Viking beserkers, where else are they going to have a socially acceptable venue to vent their inner berserker?

    WRT trauma, some people are more durable than others, but some also play a reckless style with no time for recovery. Merrill Hoge retired due to mental health concerns (and sued the Steelers head doctor who told him that his brain was not in jeopardy after repeated concussions), and it took 5-10 years but he eventually regained his normal mental functioning (the brain of a younger adult can heal if given enough time). But a lot of players just don’t seem to care*, or don’t realize that their issues will only get worse if they dont protect themselves.

    Anyway, there definitely seems to be a correlation between wildness and body type. The massive D-linemen are usually garralous (including McMichael who made the transition to pro wrestling personality seamlessly, while the ectomorphic kickers and cornerbacks are comparitively reserved.

    *Again, I don’t think some of these people are all that bright to begin with

    • Replies: @animalogic
  34. Travis says:

    Tall white guys are more likely to have Blue eyes than short white guys. The average QB is over 6’2 , so we should expect them to have blue eyes if they are white.

  35. Drafting a football player is always a crapshoot. Even if his name is Payton Manning. The stupid Houston Texans spent their first draft choice in the third round on a QB.

    Tom Brady was 6th round. My favorite quarterback draft story was the year Rivers, Rothlisberger, and the other Manning were drafted. The day the college football season ended Rothlisberger was #1 on everybody’s board and three months later he had dropped to the third best QB after the committee meetings. In hindsight they could have all done without the committee meetings.

    My vague impression is that blue-eyed guys are more courageous under fire: they are colder-blooded and less likely to panic under pressure.

    The thing is they sometimes have the berzerker gene. That’s what you want on your side when the shit goes down.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
  36. Altai says:

    Could be, but isn’t a more reasonable explanation that white NFL players tend to come from places or have family history in places without much Southern or Eastern European input.

    Overwhelming majorities in Scandinavia, Scotland, Ireland, parts of Germany and to a lesser extent England (And probably overwhelming numbers in the places the early settlers came from) have light eyes. (Numbers sometimes vary as ‘blue’ can be applied to true blue and grey) The majority of people in North West Europe have blue or bluish eyes. Could also be that blue eyes are more piercing and make somebody look more focused.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/18/world/americas/18iht-web.1018eyes.3199975.html

    About half of Americans born at the turn of the 20th century had blue eyes, according to a 2002 Loyola University study in Chicago. By mid-century that number had dropped to a third. Today only about one 1 of every 6 Americans has blue eyes, said Mark Grant, the epidemiologist who conducted the study.

    I had once read that it was more like 80% in the mid 19th century.

    If you look at the names in the NFL, like the MLS, it’s like the great wave and subsequent immigration didn’t really happen. Lots of English and German names. (Partly due to most of the players now being African-American but partly due to the white players having a massive over-representation of English names)

    It reminds me of the Missing 411 guy who cites the majority of people missing in US national parks being of German ancestry as evidence of some nefarious targeting. Of course, the biggest form of white ancestry in the US is German (Often forgotten due to conspicuous German ethnic pride in the US being suppressed after WW1, with the Chicago Oktoberfest parade being the most prominent remnant.) and is highest in those places with the lion’s share of national parks.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    , @ben tillman
    , @Anon
  37. @Pat Hannagan

    There’s nothing more a yank looks forward to than being lectured from above, looked down on as they look up, and being put in their place by someone who looks down on them

    What’s the weather like down there, Pat?

  38. fish says:

    He looks like Reinhard Heydrichs kid! I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing!?

    https://alphahistory.com/holocaust/reinhard-heydrich/

  39. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s interesting how many are classic pretty boys. For example Kirk Cousins.

  40. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    I have a bad feeling about Lawrence. Think the NFL is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish than HS or college. And he is going to be going to a bad team. Just wonder if he has weathered enough storms over the years or always been the boy wonder. That is going to get different when coordinaters scheme his ass. When DBs are all over his receivers. And he gets sacked more often.

    We’ll see though. Haven’t studied his game. So very much my gut guessing.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  41. If physiognomy is the indicator, then Zach Wilson is this year’s Johnny Manziel. (I hope for Mr. Wilson’s sake that it isn’t.)

    There is something to be said for a cool affect in a quarterback. Maybe it just reflects a calm mental state. Maybe it calms down the rest of the offense. For most offensive positions, my sense is that calm calculation and IQ matters, in contrast to the defense which requires fire and unrestricted violence. My favorite quarterbacks, Plunkett, Stabler and Montana, all seem to have that cool affect.

    And Mrs. Lawrence is objectively adorable. Her facial expression seems to indicate that she is worried what her life will be like being married to a man who is so pretty.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @e
  42. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:

    Sportsball will never completely lose its prestige, because of the gayish male 24/7 interest in f___ability (see above). But once these sportser galloots stop pulling in those big TV contracts, straight women may re-fix their designs elsewhere. It’s not as if the ladies are actually fascinated by a ball getting kicked around. They despised computers and tech too, until a few men started getting rich off it

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  43. Anonymous[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @JR Ewing

    If she floats she is a witch… weaving her spellcraft courtesy of what “The Graduate” guy told Dustin Hoffman about

  44. @Old and Grumpy

    Defenses win Superbowls. Tom Terrific is only as good as the offensive line in front of him.

    I think what you are really saying is whoever controls the line of scrimmage, wins. Something Joe Kapp pointed out in the 60s.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  45. fredtard says:
    @black sea

    Thanks for the video. Sooo many 14-year-olds with the same dreams, same hype, and this guy’s still livin’ it.

  46. anon[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Lawrence part black?

  47. Hey Steve,
    No joke, my mom knew Frank Ryan…she didn’t go to Rice, but was a Lamar girl from the fifties. I know you went to Rice so probably know that Lamar High School was a thing in Houston all those years ago and just down the road. She was good friends with a friend of a friend…and in the 70’s as I was driftin’ in and out of the house(ahh, college days) mom and dad were neighbors of his mother-in law that mom apparently knew back in the day.
    As mom gets older I’m hearing all kinds of stories of famous-semi famous people my folks/grandparents knew back then. She and dad knew AJ Foyt, he’s a couple of years ahead of her and she was scared of him…
    Houston was a swinging joint in those days, Galveston too.
    I now get the Ancestry thing as I reach into the sixties, it would have been nice to hear some of it before now. Not much to be done with it even then but the six degrees connection on some of it is quite nostalgic. Ahh, nostalgia…

    Regards,
    Harry

  48. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:

    The USA was never 80% blue eyed; not even England is 80%, but merely 48%.

    Interestingly, 88% of US presidents had blue eyes in 2008. We just added two more since, so I guess it’s over 90% now.

    https://elephantsinthebluegrass.blogspot.com/2008/02/blue-eyed-edge-in-oval-office.html?m=1

    Michael Medved notes today that Washington’s blue eyes were the rule rather than the exception in the Oval Office: 39 out of our 43 presidents had blue eyes.

    It turns out that in all of U.S. history, only five presidents had brown eyes – John Quincy Adams, Andrew Johnson, Chester A. Arthur, LBJ and Nixon. All the rest were clearly described with blue, grey, or hazel eyes.

    https://www.thesportscol.com/2014/01/like-blue-eyed-boy/

    Intrigued, I did a little research with the help of Google and NFL.com, and it turns out that over 80% of Superbowls have been won by Quarterback with blue eyes, a ratio of over 4 to 1. What’s more, of the twenty-three modern era quarterbacks in the NFL Hall of Fame, twenty-one have light colored eyes. That is not a misprint. That is over 90%. If you were to include guaranteed first ballot HOFer’s Peyton Manning, Bret Favre and Tom Brady, it climbs to an astounding twenty four of twenty six. (In 2014, no quarterbacks were voted as HOF semifinalist; however, of the six quarterbacks eligible, only sky blue-eyed Phil Simms has won a Superbowl, setting a record for completion percentage in the game and winning the Superbowl MVP award).

    Only two Hall of Fame quarterbacks have brown eyes, Warren Moon and Otto Graham. For any coach in the NFL (or vegas bookie), this should be a stunning revelation. According to a New York Times article by Douglas Belkin, blue eyes make up less than twenty percent of the people born in the U.S. today, about 1 in 6. Even when you concede the fact that racism played a large part in the earlier days of the NFL (and some would say even now), and therefore use only statics from the population of Caucasian Americans for comparison, blue eyes are still only found at a rate of approximately 34%, or 1 in 3. Only in Estonia and some Scandinavian countries does the percentage of blue eyes even approach that of the NFL Hall of Fame’s 90+%.

    Of the brown-eyed quarterbacks who have won the Superbowl, the majority were fortunate enough to have played against other brown-eyed quarterbacks (The rare dual dark-eyed Superbowl taking place only about ten percent of the time, rather than an expected 50%). A perfect example is Kurt Warner, who beat the brown-eyed Steve McNair in Superbowl XXXIV, but then lost to the blue-eyed Tom Brady and the (Greenish-) blue-eyed Ben Roethlisberger in Superbowls XXXVI and XLIII.

  49. El Dato says:

    OT:

    iSteve content alert: Web tracking disproportionately affects LGBT “community”.

    LGBTQ People Should Think Twice About Using Google Chrome

    Say when you watch an LGBTQ film, based on what other fans of the flick also watched, Netflix will almost certainly recommend RuPaul’s Drag Race. That’s because a lot of LGBTQ people like both queer films and Drag Race.

    I have no doubt about it.

    Equally on YouTube, if you watch a video that is subjectively right-wing in its coverage, you could well end up in ‘rabbit-hole binge.’ Which, as the New York Times podcast found, could see you getting increasingly narrow-focused and ultra-conservative videos.

    As opposed to opening yourself up for more queer encounters.

    But recommender system are bad:

    Currently, you can’t target LGBTQ people or any ‘sensitive’ characteristic of people. That means sexual orientation, but also groups based on race or even personal hardships too.

    And Google says this will be true with the new ‘FLoC’ advertising system too.

    But this is ultimately what privacy campaigners are worried about.

    “At the root of it, FLoCs will group people together by characteristics. And where have we seen grouping people together go wrong before? It’s built-in sterotyping,” says Kyle Taylor, author of The Little Black Book of Data and Democracy.

    You are getting sterotyped by “AI”. The “AI” thinks you are queer. (You areally are queer, too, but that’s besides the point)

    “Say there is a data breach, and a bad actor can understand the data. Even if the groups are not ‘gay’ or ‘Muslim’ by name – when they are based on similar characteristics, they are easy enough to work out. Now they will know all the gay, trans, bisexual users of Chrome everywhere.

    Finally we will have good statistics about the gayness level of society, as least of those allowing themselves to be probed by Google advertising.

    “In the UK, where I’m based, we relatively live in a liberal society, but what happens in Russia? What if a Government that is known for curtailing the rights of certain people gets hold of this data and uses it to identify and persecute a specific group of people? What if a group wants to target Muslims or migrants?

    Does Putin really want to target gays via Google’s advertisement system? Maybe sanctions could help here?

    Placebo famously sang, “My computer thinks I’m gay, I threw that piece of junk away.” The question LGBTQ people now need to ask themselves is: do we need to do the same of Chrome and switch browsers to protect our privacy?

    Indeed, increasingly that means asking – what technologies are putting our community at risk. And crucially, what are we doing to challenge this?

    Stay off the Internet.

    • Replies: @Curle
  50. SafeNow says:

    “..colder-blooded and less likely to panic under pressure”

    This quote describes Jen Psaki. And Trevor has the Jen hair, and the same look in the eyes (brings to mind Robert Shaw’s description of a shark’s eyes in Jaws). Of course, the difference is that Trevor is only 86-4 in beating the opposition.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
  51. Feryl says:
    @Altai

    Northern Europeans and Sub-Saharan blacks are bigger than other ethnic groups. That’s why they dominate the NFL. I’m 5’9″ but in Minnesota that means I’m often dwarfed by giant Krauts, Scandies, Slavs, and blacks.

    (Often forgotten due to conspicuous German ethnic pride in the US being suppressed after WW1, with the Chicago Oktoberfest parade being the most prominent remnant.) and is highest in those places with the lion’s share of national parks.

    Wasn’t it Derbyshire who said that American culture is as much, or more, German than British? The earnestness, the social graces, the more blunt sense of humor, etc.

    A ((certain)) group that has been disproportionately influential in academia, media, politics, and finance since the mid-20th century has been busily burying awareness of the the genetic homogeneity of the white South, Midwest, and Western states (outside of Los Angeles). Yer typical white American outside of the Northeast is is Anglo-Celtic-Germanic with a splash of French and Slav. In other words, Northern European. Hitler himself considered legacy white Americans to be on par culturally and genetically with the Germans and British.

    Really, for all the Ellis Island propaganda indicted upon us Americans , self-identified whites have (outside the Northeast and Los Angeles) remained pretty much essentially Northern European in genetic stock and in personality.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @R.G. Camara
  52. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    Hes had work. Trump despite the vanity doesnt play pretend for anyman.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  53. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feryl

    That you Chauvin ??

    hoping he get 5-10 out in 5

  54. Wasn t there a psychologist who worked out Ryan leaf would be a bust based on his obamaesque blaming of everyone else when things went wrong while the #2 pick was joe Biden like in his coolness? And a success for that.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  55. @Altai

    Could be, but isn’t a more reasonable explanation that white NFL players tend to come from places or have family history in places without much Southern or Eastern European input.

    Unitas, Namath, Marino, and Montana, are all from western Pennsylvania, and all have blue eyes.

    • Replies: @Anon
  56. @Feryl

    Fencik was voted the dirtiest player in the NFL by other players.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  57. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @gent

    In an interview on Friday, Mr. Baca acknowledged mentioning a power grab in a long and contentious discussion but said he had not known that Dr. Pollack-Pelzner was Jewish

    Why are Jews named Pollack, when Pollack is a name for Poles? It is understandable that Mr. Baca was caught off guard.

  58. Anon[629] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wade Hampton

    If physiognomy is the indicator

    Is physiognomy even real though?

  59. JR Ewing says:
    @Truth

    I have had a similar thought myself.

    “Overgrowth” so to say.

  60. TWS says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    Athletic? The poor son of a gun has the thinning look of an Alzheimer’s patient.

  61. @Pat Hannagan

    Trump (6 foot 2) was beaten by Biden (6 foot 5) on account of 3 inches, which alt-right has been apoplexic since.

    Pat, why write something so obviously wrong?

    I write a bunch of stuff that’s my opinion–though, of course, true and accurate–and plenty of people argue about it.

    Height is one of those things that’s not much a matter of opinion. There are a ton of pictures of Presidents and Vice Presidents and candidates standing around together. I’ve never put tape on any of these guys, but their relative heights are pretty obvious.

    Trump, Bush I, Clinton and Obama are all “tall” and roughly in the same ballpark (6’2″ ish according to the internet) and within an inch or so. Trump appears to be the tallest, Obama the shortest but it’s close. (Close enough that “who looks taller” depends on footwear and minor changes in posture.)

    Biden is clearly an inch or so shorter than Obama, but clearly taller than Bush II. My guess is Bush II is not actually 6′, but 5’11” something, something. But clearly taller than Carter.

    There is absolutely zero doubt that Trump is taller than Biden.

  62. This guy gets into tyhe “blue-eyed QB” thing as well as just a bit on the idea that it’s not a mere coincidence.

    See also:

    https://www.thesportscol.com/2014/01/like-blue-eyed-boy/

    Trevor Lawrence was lights-out against Alabama as a freshman but left a lot on the table the following year against LSU. I think he’ll be successful in the NFL, but that LSU game has had me concerned. By the way, like his former coach (William Christopher “Dabo” Swinney), TL is a crypto-William.

    • Replies: @gent
  63. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    The Baltic countries and Northeastern Europe actually has the highest percentage of light eyes:

  64. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    Marino is 6’4″ and half-Polish. I imagine his size comes from his Polish ancestry, as Poles tend to be large and do well in strongman competitions. Poland is also in Northeastern Europe, which has the highest % of light eyes.

    The Montana surname is northern Italian.

    Unitas was Lithuanian. Lithuanians are among the tallest people in the world, and along with the other Baltic, NE Euro countries have the highest % of light eyes.

    Namath is Hungarian. Blue eyes are not uncommon in Hungary.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Anonymous
  65. TWS says:
    @black sea

    Why do boys follow there fathers into logging or fishing?

  66. has anybody noticed how big Tom Brady’s head is? for some reason most people don’t even realize he’s a big guy and seem surprised when he’s like 6-5 standing next to other quarterbacks. but then when you see him standing next to Giselle his head looks enormous.

    maybe not Peyton Manning size, but wtf. that’s one huge noggin’, pretty much totally disguised by how good looking he is. seriously, Brady’s head looks like that coneheads skit from SNL.

    it seemed like Peyton Manning could never find a helmet that fit. i guess the biggest helmet you could get was still too small. whenever he took his helmet off his forehead was smashed into the front and glaring red. i would guess his head is a good amount bigger than Trevor Lawrence’s.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  67. gent says:
    @ben tillman

    In other animals, particularly arctic birds, blue eyes have been shown to give an advantage in differentiating color in high light conditions.

  68. Two thoughts:

    1) Does no one give counsel to these young men or getting married?

    I’m all for young people–who are ready–getting married. It’s the natural state for man and woman and marriage is too delayed today. I pulled up the Lawrence wedding pic and Mrs. Lawrence’s attractions are obvious.

    But with the divorce rape situation, it just seems stupid for a young man–who has $$$ baked in–to take this step. Half of every dollar the guy earns will be hers even if she screws around and dumps him in a few years. (Or he screws around and dumps her.) To me, that big money lets you have financial security to raise a big family and leave money to your kids for them to have financial security raising their families. Having huge chunks pissed away on a girl who turns out to be a “starter wife” and doesn’t bear your children is ridiculous.

    2) Wilson mom–six kids and 48–indeed looks delicious. Wilson dad an embarrassment.
    I assume Wilson dad earns it bringing home the bacon. But really, ridiculous to choose to go through life like that.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  69. TWS says:

    Here’s the secret I learned about height. All athletes lie about it or their teams do. One of my grandfathers was a pro baseball player, and played semi pro basketball. My other grandfather was a boxer. My son was listed as six five in high school but he barely topped six one. None of the pros I met were their listed height. I’m six four and as tall or taller than most football players I’ve met, most basketball players, (my son played) and every baseball player except Randy Johnson. I’m guessing it’s a monetary value thing. Or maybe vanity.

  70. [Wilson’s] dad is a gigantic fat guy

    Your perspective is being skewed by living in SoCal. In the rest of the country (not NYC) Mr. Wilson is of average build and would be described as having a “dad bod”.

    • Disagree: Polistra, S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    , @Anonymous
  71. @Slim

    You do know he wears dentures, right?

    Martha Raye had a better set.

  72. Anon[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Trump (6 foot 2) was beaten by Biden (6 foot 5)

    6’5” is very tall. How does that compare to some NBA players?

    • Replies: @anon
  73. He looks rather like a recent reconstruction of Shakespeare’s bad guy King Richard the Third.

    Really? I see Fabio:

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  74. @AnotherDad

    Apparently Mrs. Wilson doesn’t think so, X6.

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
  75. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Slim

    He probably has crowns and veneers, like his son Hunter, who needed them due to abusing crack and meth. Most politicians and celebrities with those fake looking, big, unnaturally white and straight teeth have crowns and veneers.

    https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/10/16/new-york-post-hunter-biden-photos-claim-to-show-before-and-after-dental-work-to-fix-meth-mouth/

  76. @AnotherDad

    Biden is clearly an inch or so shorter than Obama, but clearly taller than Bush II. My guess is Bush II is not actually 6′, but 5’11” something, something. But clearly taller than Carter.

    Jimmy Carter is not tall at all. My guess is that he is 5’7″ at most, and that’s with cowboy boots on. I met him on a plane coming back from Amsterdam a few years back, and he was escorted around by secret service to greet everyone. Maybe he’s lost some height due to age.

  77. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    I actually don’t know anything about football these days, but I thought this email from a friend was funny:

    An interesting question is why? Why don’t you know much about football these days? Have you always been that way?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @J.Ross
  78. @Anonymous

    Didn’t Kanye West make a song about this?

    These women figure that if they’re going to marry, then they’ll marry for money&status.

  79. MC says:

    “Here he is (second from right)”

    Zach Wilson is actually the guy to the left of the dad in that pic. The guy second from right is, I presume, his brother.

  80. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    What about green eyes? What personality traits, if any, are scientifically associated with them?

  81. Take a look at most Mormon family photos, the ones with 4+ kids. Most of the dads are dopey looking and fat, and the moms still look like catalogue models. (Maybe they do Trucker Speed to stay thin.) ca

  82. @John Milton’s Ghost

    It’s good to be a male in a patriarchy if you can still find one. White Mormons are some of the last.

    It’s also not bad being an irresponsible male in a matriarchy, since black men seem to be pretty desirable these days.

  83. J.Ross says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    … look at all these Americans arguing over a couple of inches …

  84. @Reg Cæsar

    LOL — the tiger is a nice touch.

  85. i never thought about this before but it’s probably true the bigger a european man is, the more likely he is to have blue eyes. probably because northwest europeans are bigger and stronger. but there’s a good number of Italians and Poles in NFL too. and some of them have blue eyes. i would guess probably 25% of Italians have blue eyes in general, though not the ones in south Italy. there’s less Irish guys in NFL, they’re smaller and weaker. the strongest Irish guy ever was Pat Casey, who was freakishly big and strong, but that’s not common. somebody like Tyson Fury is extremely rare anywhere.

    i’m not sure Brady has a faster release than Marino, i would have to check that on video, but Brady has definitely been the fastest on average for 20 years. Big Ben was actually the measured fastest release last season, after getting his arm fixed. he was down to 2.0 seconds per throw for the year. but his arm started to slow down the last month of the season due to fatigue. he also has the most 500 yard games, and yes, was scouted number 1 in 2004 for a long time. he’ll end up the best quarterback from that draft. he is also the Steeler who has played the most games ever for a Steeler. for 15 years he’s made up for a lot of Tomlin’s dumb stuff.

    • Replies: @Anon
  86. One very good-looking contemporary QB was Brady Quinn. Watch this.

    His physique was an inspiration, but his excessive musculature limited his mobility. Due to that and injuries, his career never took off.

    Quinn once estimated that 40-50 % of NFL players were on human growth hormone.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/brady-quinn-hgh-blame-nfl-injuries-article-1.2423108

    It’s hard to project college to NFL, as the environment is so different. Teams are much more evenly matched. D-lines hit WAY harder. There’s no protective ‘college bubble.’

    Different players physically&mentally mature at different rates.

    Some talented players don’t get identified early on and end up being backups, but shine when they get their chance. Other players get injured and wash out.

    Staying healthy in the long term is an important quality for being a successful athlete.

    Sports is truly an all-or-nothing thing. A few go on to EXTREME glory, most wash out and have nothing (other than injuries) to show for their time on the field. Lots of ex-athletes who never made any money in HS or college, but walk around hobbled and in pain from all the hits they took.

    Parents are way more involved these days than ever before. Behind every successful athlete are Type A ‘helicopter’ parents who are ultra protective&controlling of their child, making sure that his entire life (several hours every day) is geared around sports. From the time he turns six up through the end of HS, they keep their young athlete’s nose to the grindstone and keep him away from social distractions. Life is constant practices, training with private strength coaches, meeting college scouts, and participating in travel teams.

    The stereotype of “jocks partying all the time” is out of date. The typical “jock” has to work ridiculously hard these days. College programs expect athletes to have strong grades, high SATs, and minimal discipline issues. So parents are vigilant and make sure not to let their young athlete out of sight.

    The amount of time&money invested in youth sports is absolutely absurd. However, for a lucky few, it is more than worth it if they go pro.

  87. Feryl says:
    @Anonymous

    HiKeep in mind that (white) men tend to have blue eyes, while green eyes are more common among women. If we simply stopped electing men president the blue eyed portion would diminish.

    Also, that article seems to include both genders WRT to white american eye color, yet then talks about a male only occupation, quarterback. When you take often green eyed women out of the general populations eye color statsand look at guys only, the number of blue eyed quarterbacks isn’t so stunning anymore.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  88. @Anonymous

    OneZeroThree, unless there has been a major trade, the #1 draft pick always goes to a bad team.

  89. Curle says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Sure, but how tall was Corn Pop?

  90. @AnotherDad

    Russell Wilson married before his NFL career began.

    However, after Wilson’s wife cheated on him with teammate Golden Tate, Wilson divorced her. This was before he was getting huge contracts, so Wilson didn’t have to part with much money.

    He’s now married to a famous music star named Ciara.

    See here.

    • Replies: @Anon
  91. Feryl says:
    @curtis dunkel

    He had a long career for a 70’s/80’s safety. And he still has good health. He must’ve known what he was doing. Then you have a guy like Chuck Cecil who did massive head first hits but was done after 5 or 6 seasons.

    Yer Boomer and early Gen X athletes made sports super violent in the 70’s-90’s (NHL all time penalty leaders were almost entirely born in the 60’s and early 70’s, NBA players used to clothesline each other, etc) . Nowadays nasty hits are much more heavily policed in all sports.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  92. @AnotherDad

    I saw a picture of Trump once with Dennis Rodman, he looked around 6′ 3″ I would guess, Rodman is 6′ 9″ and he didn’t tower over him.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  93. Curle says:
    @El Dato

    “ And where have we seen grouping people together go wrong before?”

    I dunno, where?

  94. Dutch Boy says:
    @Morton's toes

    The SD Chargers had multiple chances to draft Brady and rumor had it that their chief scout went down on his knees to beg that they do so but their GM (Bobby Beathard) wouldn’t bite. Beathard was in the process of leading the Chargers from the Super Bowl to the toilet bowl and refusing to draft Brady was the cherry on the cake.

    • Thanks: Ben tillman
  95. Dutch Boy says:
    @Feryl

    Blocking and tackling with the head was taught by fb coaches in the 60s. Lots of stuff that is illegal now was SOP then.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  96. Curle says:
    @Anonymous

    “ Tom Brady seems to have laser-like focus.”

    That’s the very definition of ADHD, hyper focus.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  97. @Travis

    If that’s the only reason then white basketball players, pitchers, linemen (similar height requirement) should also be mostly blue-eyed.

    Are they? I don’t know.

    Being elite NFL QB requires
    1. Height/size
    2. Throwing ability
    3. Moderately high IQ
    4. Disciplined study skills
    5. Physical courage to take hits
    6. Quick reflexes
    7. Split sec decision making
    8. Access to training with simulated reps (this is expensive to come by as it requires 22 people to line up)
    9. Confidence to lead

    Creativity and speed/explosiveness I think is not required.

    Germanic whites tend to have all these traits. For example 6&7 are required for pingpong, and the best non-Chinese player is a Swede
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan-Ove_Waldner

    • Replies: @Not only wrathful
  98. @Peter Akuleyev

    A lot of these celebrities inflate their height. Do a Wikipedia search of Mick Jagger and it’ll say he’s 5’10” where in reality he’s no more than 5’5″. Arnold Schwarzenegger is probably 5’10” but one would think from all the hype that he’s a giant.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    , @Feryl
  99. Thoughts says:
    @AnotherDad

    Wow.

    Someone’s bitter. Trevor Lawrence and that girl are going to have 8 kids and you know it. Does that scare you?

    Getting married at 21 is the DREAM.

    Only losers fail to marry young.

    Losers fall into two categories: undesirables and stupid idiots who listen to bad advice

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  100. JR Ewing says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Agreed. He’s a normal looking “big guy”. Maybe a little overweight but he’s a former college football lineman himself and all around large man. I don’t think “gigantic fat guy” is an accurate descriptor at all. If anything, he has kind of a phantom double chin. but that’s just what we used to call “jowls” in another time.

    Here’s a pic from the past week:

    https://kslsports.com/458474/zach-wilson-hits-red-carpet-in-armani-suit-before-2021-nfl-draft/

    • Thanks: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @joe_mama
  101. OT:

    Early this morning I dreamed that I witnessed multiple airplane crashes while sitting in a jetliner – an American Airlines 747, of all things – that was also going down.

    I was sitting in the first-class section in the “hump” at the top of the aircraft. For some reason I had a pilots’-eye view of the takeoff. It was very surreal – as we were taking off, the runway was more like an interstate highway, with “overpasses” that were barely high enough for us to clear. (At one point I heard a scraping sound.) I looked out the window (to my right) to see an Airbus A380 split open like a facehugger egg (as depicted in the Alien movies) and begin spiraling down like an out-of-control helicopter. The other passengers were screaming that it was about to crash. I didn’t see it hit, but a few seconds later I looked and saw a tremendous fireball rising from the ground.

    We barely made it off the runway and then we barely avoided colliding with an incoming aircraft. We did collide with something – a building? – and one of the engines came off. The pilots made a sharp 180-degree turn in a frantic effort to make it back to the runway, but we were losing altitude too quickly and I knew that we weren’t going to make it. My eyes opened just before impact.

    I would bet that, if I had gone into the cockpit, I would have found Joe Biden behind the controls.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @SafeNow
  102. @Anonymous

    Declining testosterone?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Bubba
  103. Chebyshev says:

    In addition to having blue eyes, Lawrence is 6’5 and mobile. He can throw like Tom Brady and run like Cam Newton. He’ll go to a lot of Pro Bowls.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  104. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feryl

    Irish Catholic from Jersey City

  105. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    steve!

    why?

    best thing for steve is liquidate his assets, move to…southern chile…convert to the popish religion.

    a world where 95% of adults have cell phones is not your world…i hope.

    leave.

    as everyone knows, the ultimate scary face, savage face, i will kill you while eating a donut face is…

    sad.

    steve is still playing the game of getting along with people. he’s still dependent on other people.

    double sad.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  106. J.Ross says:
    @Anonymous

    uhh, how about there are more important things plus the NFL doing everything it can to drive away business?

  107. @TWS

    Yeah, for a lot of football players being above average height or average height seems not uncommon to me. Seems like it’s more important for a football player to have big hands and big feet.

    • Replies: @TWS
  108. JR Ewing says:
    @John Up North

    I went to my first Rolling Stones concert a couple of years ago and was fairly close to the stage.

    After being struck by how OLD they all looked (especially Charlie Watts), the next thing that caught my attention was how tiny Mick was. Little bitty.

    But the show in general was great, as per their reputation.

    • Replies: @BB753
  109. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    https://www.kingoscar.com/product/brisling-sardines-mediterranean-style/
    Like what the Governor of Minnesota said but without fear of mouth cancer. And denial gooning before lifting. And cold showers.
    You ride bicycles much?

  110. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curle

    No it isn’t. “Attention deficit” means bouncing around and never completing a process or following thru on the taks at hand.

    • Replies: @Curle
  111. SafeNow says:
    @Stan Adams

    Dr. Freud here. It’s not OT at all that you had this dream, and would be reporting this dream as a comment to this essay. The pilot in your dream… The pilot of a football team is the quarterback. You dream of collisions… these of course happen in football. You dream of abrupt, scary turns.. this is the quarterback evading a tackle. screaming passengers equals screaming fans.

  112. Football is ready for a trans QB. There’s such poetic justice in our elites being humiliated by trans activists. Sure seems like the Establishment is losing social credibility.

    The old pagan powers must have looked pretty invincible to Romans around 300 AD. Constantine was right around the corner.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/janet-mock-demands-more-pay-for-pose-in-fiery-speech-at-premiere-you-have-stomped-on-us

  113. @Anon

    Exactly correct. Brady has less athletic ability compared to most NFL quarterbacks but he knows his limitations and gets rid of the ball quickly.

    Tom has always taken a significant pay-cut and was never paid like a top QB, allowing his teams to spend money on other players to create better teams.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  114. @salute the marines

    Manning went #1 and Leaf #2, and a miserable failure like Biden.

  115. @Thoughts

    Someone’s bitter. Trevor Lawrence and that girl are going to have 8 kids and you know it. Does that scare you?

    Project your fantasies elsewhere. Healthy young white Americans–heck just smart middle class Americans instead of welfare suckers and deadbeats–having a passel of kids not only doesn’t scare me … i think it’s great.

    I think the chances they have 8 kids are approximately zero and certainly much, much less than divorce with zero. But if he puts her fine form to its natural use … good for them!

    • Replies: @Ed
  116. tyrone says:
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Now you know Mormons don’t take any stimulants…..shame on you for suggesting such a thing…..personally I can’t imagine a life without beer.

    • Replies: @fish
    , @Clyde
  117. Jay Fink says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    That’s one of the reasons I like living in a Hispanic majority city. Most are short and they don’t judge people on height. Whites size people up on it. It should matter for sports but not much else.

    • LOL: BB753
  118. @Anonymous

    The USA was never 80% blue eyed; not even England is 80%

    But there are areas in the himnterlands where the population is over 80% blue-eyed. In Wise County (which borders on Tarrant County, in which Fort Worth is located), even the prisoners who come into court chained together are 80+% blue-eyed.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @S. Anonyia
  119. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    When I rewatched Twin Peaks (years before the humiliating third season which confirms Steve’s fears about David) I was wierded out by how pretty much everyone has blue eyes. But careless as David is in actually going somewhere, there are still great elements of value, and his taste in women is unimpeachable.

  120. Bubba says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Please don’t tell us you’re watching figure skating or the Lifetime channel during NFL games.

  121. Feryl says:
    @John Up North

    Stallone (5’9″ at best at his peak height) is a notorious elevator shoe wearer, and Schwarzenegger always appears to be noticeably taller when the two are seen together. Also, Arnold generally looked as tall, or taller, than the bodybuilders he competed against. Arnold’s peak height was probably a tad over 6 feet, in the 6′.5″ to 6’1.5″ range.

    Interestingly, what contributed to the Arnold is short meme is that Arnold was fine doing movies with tall fellow actors (and not asking the director to make him look taller), something that a lot of male actors balk at. In both Conan movies, Arnold shared the screen with giants like Sven Thorsten, Ben Davidson, and even Wilt Chamberlain!

  122. Oh the minstrel show called the NFL is starting up again?

    White cuck who will have his brains smushed to nothing in 5 years when his black teammates don’t defend him. Vs. another one exactly the same.

  123. Achilleus says:

    Oh, I don’t know, which one looks better kneeling?

  124. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Biden is 6’1

    • Replies: @Ralph L
  125. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    A Swede would be the best European at ping pong, given that they are the nerdiest of the Europeans. I get that in China ping pong has a historical pedigree and may be different, but in Europe it would be a very weird sport to want to pursue to a high level.

  126. @Anon

    In the second half of the 20th Century, the best quarterback source was eastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania’s steel and coal regions.

  127. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    I always wondered if maybe Genghis (or the ur-Mongols) had some level of Downs. In a decadent enough world Downs could be an advantage.

  128. @War for Blair Mountain

    Like….who 🖕ing cares about NFL NEGRO BALL WORSHIP…

    That one commenter who keeps saying “baseball is boring”. Like chess and Bach, I suppose.

  129. @Steve Sailer

    Not just QBs. Musial and Griffey were from the same small town. And there’s always Zeke from Cabin Creek.

  130. @Steve Sailer

    In the second half of the 20th Century, the best quarterback source was eastern Ohio and western Pennsylvania’s steel and coal regions.

    More than just quarterbacks. Until black players took over, those half-states were to football what Ontario was– and still is— to ice hockey.

  131. Bernard says:
    @AnotherDad

    But with the divorce rape situation, it just seems stupid for a young man–who has $$$ baked in–to take this step. Half of every dollar the guy earns will be hers even if she screws around and dumps him in a few years. (Or he screws around and dumps her.)

    The cynic in me thinks it’s very likely a prenup was involved.

  132. Ed says:

    Wilson is also the nephew to a Brazilian Mormon billionaire.

    Mrs. Lawrence is stunning. She flashed on the screen and I was like wow. Some guys have it all.

  133. Ed says:
    @AnotherDad

    Unless their trad Catholic, Mormon or hardcore evangelical it’s unlikely they’ll have more than 3 kids. The wife may want to pursue a career.

  134. Ed says:
    @Truth

    He wasn’t projected to go three but evidently he blew out the wonderlic tests.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  135. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer

    has anybody noticed how big Tom Brady’s head is?

    Is it true that Human Growth Hormone (HGH) supplementation causes the skull to grow? How is that possible if the brain stays the same size?

  136. fish says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    C’mon War…..enjoy the mockery!

  137. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @prime noticer

    probably because northwest europeans are bigger and stronger. but there’s a good number of Italians and Poles in NFL too. and some of them have blue eyes.

    The Italians with blue eyes may be partial descendants of the Germanic tribes that conquered Rome.

    • Replies: @Cutler
  138. Anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    However, after Wilson’s wife cheated on him with teammate Golden Tate, Wilson divorced her.

    Insane. What was she thinking? What was Tate thinking?

  139. fish says:
    @tyrone

    …..personally I can’t imagine a life without beer.

    I can…..and it terrifies me!!

  140. Bill P says:

    Trevor Lawrence looks part red Indian to me.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Anon
  141. @TWS

    A friend in college went to walk-on tryouts for the basketball team. He told me they were lined up and a coach went down the line getting everyone’s name and height. Everyone seemed to be adding two or three inches to their apparent height, so when the coach with the clipboard reached him, he said, “Well I was 6’1″ when I walked in, but now I’m not sure.” He got a bunch of dirty looks for that crack.

    • LOL: TWS
  142. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    The actor who played Genghis in that movie, Tadanobu Asano, is 3/4ths Japanese and 1/4th Caucasian. Much like another Asian star who was 1/4th White – Bruce Lee.

  143. @Ed

    If he did blow out the Wonderlic test, then it is beyond odd that he ended up at North Dakota State rather than say, Stanford. As Steve has pointed out, academically high-achieving Blacks are gold for elite universities, and I imagine those who are also good athletes on top of it are even more valuable. It seems strange he fell through the cracks. Even if he was a slacker in high school, a high Wonderlic score probably means he had a high SAT score as well.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  144. joe_mama says:
    @JR Ewing

    Yeah, he’s a big dude. Lots of muscle, lots of fat on that frame. Former athlete, come on man!

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
  145. @Feryl

    Don’t forget about Samoans. As Steve has pointed out and as I noticed as a child watching pro-wrestling and football, Samoans punch far above their weight in terms of big dudes who end up participating in rough activities.

    Also: it was a classic wrestling trope that anyone who was billed as Samoan also was billed as having an unusually hard head, which lead to a lot of wrestling maneuvers on their heads “failing” (e.g. hitting a Samoan wrestler over the head with an object was almost guaranteed to not work).

    About the only Samoan who escaped this trope in wrestling was Biden’s b*itch The Rock, who is half-Samoan. Of course even when he was newbie everyone could see Dwayne Johnson’s immense talent upside—one long time wrestling promoter/manager, on seeing a young The Rock’s in-ring performance, told the owner, “Whelp, there’s your champion in 3-5 years.” So going with the old Samoan-hard-headedness gimmick was probably not worth it for Johnson.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  146. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill P

    Trevor Lawrence looks part red Indian to me.

    Probably well over half of Southern, core American, Whites have some Indian ancestry, albeit a smidgen.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    , @Svevlad
  147. Ralph L says:
    @anon

    In the words of Inspector Clouseau, not anymore. His campaign said 5’11.6″ in Dec 2019.

  148. @War for Blair Mountain

    Not sure you know what “worship” means.

  149. @Steve Sailer

    The best NFL team in one of the early years was in that area. They were pretty much cheated out of a championship.

  150. Not Raul says:

    My vague impression is that blue-eyed guys are more courageous under fire: they are colder-blooded and less likely to panic under pressure.

    Tell that to the Vietnamese, Japanese, Gorkhali, or the Evenk.

    https://klimbim2014.wordpress.com/2019/08/02/soviet-sniper-semyon-nomokonov-with-his-famous-smoking-pipe-снайпер-семён-номоконов/

  151. @Hapalong Cassidy

    Carson Wentz was a number 2 overall draft pick out of North Dakota State.

  152. @Anonymous

    The prevalence of blue eyes among groups such as quarterbacks and U.S. Presidents is high, even for people of Northern European descent. A number of studies have found that blue eyed children display a significantly higher level of behavioral inhibition than children with other eye colors (which can be easily found using a quick google search). This means that there can be advantages and disadvantages to having blue eyes.

    On average, blue-eyed children have been shown to be more shy and fearful than children with other eye colors. Blue eyes have also been linked to a higher risk of alcoholism:

    https://www.health.com/condition/alcoholism/people-with-this-eye-color-may-have-a-greater-risk-of-alcoholism

    For anyone with blue eyes, there are obvious downsides to being shy and fearful. Possible upsides might be that blue-eyed people are more cool under pressure, and they might also have an advantage in delayed gratification.

  153. @Curmudgeon

    I think what you are really saying is whoever controls the line of scrimmage, wins.

    My personal theory is that the team that scores the most points, wins. But everyone else always has a more complicated theory.

    • LOL: Old Prude
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  154. • Replies: @Anon
  155. Mike Tre says:

    Trevor looks exactly like the “Chad” in the Chad memes

  156. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Former Lineman at U of Utah, 7 knee surgeries likely limits the cardio for him

    • Thanks: Dave Pinsen
  157. @JohnnyWalker123

    Youth sports is a real pay-to-play business.

    I liked Jim Thorpe.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  158. Lurker says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    I’ve still not taken it mate. Hearing the lamentation of the (vaccinated) women relatives is starting to grate on me.

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
  159. Polistra says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Oh dear. Mama’s fibro is acting up again.

  160. @Indiana Jack

    My very vague impression is that the blue-eyed advantage at quarterback is tied into waiting longer as the pocket begins to collapse.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Bill P
  161. Polistra says:
    @anon

    Whereas you, Mr Anonymous, are so heroic and courageous that your life has been reduced to taking potshots on the internet…anonymously. Well played, superstar.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @stop being a baby.
  162. Anonymous[116] • Disclaimer says:
    @Indiana Jack

    For anyone with blue eyes, there are obvious downsides to being shy and fearful. Possible upsides might be that blue-eyed people are more cool under pressure, and they might also have an advantage in delayed gratification.

    What is the link between being shy and fearful and delaying gratification?

    Also, wouldn’t someone who is fearful be less cool under pressure in general and be less likely in particular to stay in the pocket with people all around?

    • Replies: @Indiana Jack
  163. duncsbaby says:
    @SafeNow

    Jen Psaki has brown eyes.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Jake
  164. Curle says:
    @Anonymous

    No. ADHD are people who don’t function well with boring tasks but hyperfocus on some tasks.

    https://www.additudemag.com/understanding-adhd-hyperfocus/

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  165. El Dato says:

    OT: Promising!

  166. @Steve Sailer

    Possible upsides might be that blue-eyed people are more cool under pressure, and they might also have an advantage in delayed gratification.

    My very vague impression is that the blue-eyed advantage at quarterback is tied into waiting longer as the pocket begins to collapse.

    John Elway has bright baby blues, but his real advantage may have lain in having batted left-handed, not just in school but in a season as a pro.

    Think about it– righty passers look over their left shoulders. But a righty thrower/lefty batter has experience looking over both shoulders. A little edge like that can make a lot of difference at the top level.

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
  167. @ben tillman

    Even in the Dakotas whites aren’t 80 percent blue-eyed, much less in the outskirts of Fort Worth. You’re probably categorizing green, hazel, light brown as blue. Or you can’t tell their eye color because they have small eyes combined with Northern Euro features, which leads to assuming blue. But truth is, even a fair amount of light-haired people have dark eyes.

    Only place I’ve ever been to with 80 percent of the population having noticeably blue eyes was Northwest Ireland. Other parts the people were more comparable to American whites, though.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  168. @Feryl

    Probably the introduction of steroids to sports in that era changed athlete behavior to be more aggressive and physically violent against opposing players.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Feryl
  169. BB753 says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    Supposing you were right about American “heightism”, what’s that got to do with the bland Smashing Pumpkins’ song you embedded in the post?

  170. @TWS

    Yes. When I was a teenager I met a certain Olympic sprinter at a track meet. He is listed as 6’1 but was probably 5’9-5’10. Many of the high school runners were taller, a lot of the girls came close too.

  171. @Anon

    No they don’t. A romantic legend, that’s all. DNA tests have pretty much disproven this widespread notion.

    Many Southerners claim this to explain darker complexions. It’s true that they are generally tanner than people of mostly British ancestry should be. My theory as to why: in the days of early settlement fair-skinned types would suffer more from heat illness if they were poor/working. Inability to adjust to the climate would lead them to move away, and might cause higher mortality rates in general if they remained. Think of how hot it would be before air conditioning, and how quickly you get sunburned in the South. Makes sense that over many generations, the darker-complected British/Irish/scattered Germans & French fared better and had more kids.

    Lawrence isn’t tan, just odd-looking. Probably because he’s so tall and as someone else suggested, maybe took HGH. I’m not even sure if he’s originally from Georgia- much of metro Atlanta consists of transplants.

  172. @Anon

    Dan Marino was a pioneer of this. He was the only QB to beat the ‘85 Bears.

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
  173. anon[238] • Disclaimer says:

    The top fellow looks like a character from the movie Shrek.

    • Replies: @Cutler
  174. anon[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @duncsbaby

    Jen Psaki has brown eyes.

    She also has no lips and very short teeth.

  175. @El Dato

    To sort of tie it back to the subject of this post, America bragging about planting a flag on the moon in 1969 is like a 70 year old man bragging about winning the state championship in when he played QB in high school.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Truth
  176. Anon[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Probably the introduction of steroids to sports in that era changed athlete behavior to be more aggressive and physically violent against opposing players.

    When (if ever) were steroids introduced into the NBA?

    • Replies: @Feryl
  177. El Dato says:

    OT: Umbrella man action in Paris

  178. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    I knew I had seen Kamala once in an old french series

    Although the leader of the very EU-like Space Confederation (it actually had a starred circle logo IIRC) was a very white woman.

  179. Anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feryl

    Women aren’t “often green eyed”. They’re more likely to have green eyes than men, but green eyes are still incredibly rare in women, to the point of insignificance (as compared with blue eyes in men). Women are truly more likely to be brown-eyed than men. Women are often brown-eyed.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23601698/

    In this work we have genotyped six SNPs associated with eye colour (IrisPlex) in 535 individuals from Spain, a Mediterranean population. Aside from different SNP frequencies in Spain compared to Northern Europe, the results for eye colour prediction are quite similar to other studies. However, we have found an association between gender and eye colour prediction. When comparing similar eye colour genetic profiles, females tend, as a whole, to have darker eyes than males (and, conversely, males lighter than females). These results are also corroborated by the revision and meta-analysis of data from previously published eye colour genetic studies in several Caucasian populations, which significantly support the fact that males are more likely to have blue eyes than females, while females tend to show higher frequencies of green and brown eyes than males. This significant gender difference would suggest that there is an as yet unidentified gender-related factor contributing to human eye colour variation.

  180. Clyde says:
    @tyrone

    Now you know Mormons don’t take any stimulants…..shame on you for suggesting such a thing…..personally I can’t imagine a life without beer.

    . Their vice is ice cream, lots of it. They can take no alcohol, no caffeine, no nicotine.

    • Replies: @mmack
  181. @Feryl

    All-Pro cornerback Richard Sherman scored the equivalent of a 106 IQ on the NFL’s Wonderlic, was the salutatorian of his class at Compton Dominguez HS, and played for Stanford. I saw him play in the CIF final in 2005 for Compton Dominguez against my old Notre Dame HS. Compton crushed NDHS, but Sherman didn’t particularly stand out over his many talented teammates. My guess is that his above average IQ helped him go on to a long career (three first team All Pro picks).

    Sherman’s main rival for California high school athlete of the year was Colin Kaepernick, who scored in the 130s on the Wonderlic IQ test. You may have heard of him.

  182. Cutler says:
    @Anon

    That’s nonsense, Blue eyes are found in all European populations as is fair hair from North to South, All European have variability of hair and eye colours. Blue eyes are common as is any combo with fair hair brown hair etc.

  183. Cutler says:
    @anon

    Mirco Bergamasco looks like a classical statue as does Artur Aleksanyan. Mirco was a rugby player the 2nd a Wrestler.

  184. black sea says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Lawrence was born in Knoxville, Tennessee. I don’t know where his parents are from.

  185. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @S. Anonyia

    DNA tests haven’t disproven anything, you’re referring to one study using 23andMe user data, which selects from the higher-income strata, many of them recent immigrants to the South. Average southerners do indeed have black and Amerindian admixture. You, on the other hand, seem to be on a spiritual mission to deny this.

    Your theory is junk.

  186. BB753 says:
    @JR Ewing

    Post-war rationed food does that to a man. The late 40’s and fifties were bleak times in the UK, like almost everywhere else in Europe. Jagger is stunted not short.

    • Thanks: JR Ewing
  187. BB753 says:
    @S. Anonyia

    I can see how skin cancer and vascular diseases might prove lethal to people of British ancestry in sunny and moist climates. But in order for selection to cull out fairer or otherwise better adapted phenotypes, you’d need more generations, say forty or so, before industrialization and mechanization made possible for workers to leave the fields and open-air toil.

  188. Danindc says:
    @Thoughts

    I would take that bet. I’d guarantee they’re both not liberals. Be surprised if one of them is…

  189. Ed says:
    @Anonymous

    Do you a study to back that up? After the 17th century the color lines were fairly strict. There were some mixed communities in Virginia, Maryland and North Carolina plus some fair skinned blacks passing for white, like some of the Hemmings, but this was a small percentage of the southern population.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  190. Feryl says:
    @Anon

    In the late 80’s and 90’s, steroids were definitely present in all sports. Even pro BMX racing. Because of revealing uniforms, the NBA is easiest to track. In the late 70’s and early 80’s, the scrawny “coke physique” was very common (when David Stern took over, he studied drug use and there were credible estimates that at least 40% of players were coke heads during this time). Coke use eventually plummeted following the death of Len Bias and several players being punished for drug use. However, you did start to see more large highly vascular physiques due to roid use by circa 1990 (steroids were the drug of choice in the 90’s). Once the moral panic about Roids took over in the 2000’s (and leagues punished users and the government punished PED suppliers), use of PEDs did seem to diminish in all North American sports. It still happens, but not to the excesses of the late 80’s and 90’s.

  191. Feryl says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    I don’t doubt that some NhL players were on PEDs by the 90’s, but the most fighting plagued NHL season ever was 1983-1984. So you’re talking about a league that was 90% Boomer. That suggests generational temperament was a major factor in sportsmanship. Once later Gen X athletes were the vast majority of pro athletes in the 2000’s, athlete behavior improved dramatically (and is still on good terms with Millennials these days). Let’s face it, the 60’s and 70’s conditioned Boomers and early Gen X to be destructively arrogant.

    I do agree though that PEDs (and intense training) made athletes bigger and faster and thus more capable of hurting each other. With football linemen, they are now so big that they often really hurt people by just incidentally falling onto and into them. Weight restrictions at this position are long overdue. I’m also pretty sure that most modern lineman are sumo-esque over eaters under pressure to keep their weight way up there

    • Replies: @midtown
  192. BB753 says:
    @Indiana Jack

    Green and grey eyes are a mix of dark and light pigmentation (with the color blue being the result of minimal pigmentation), right? Most Europeans have neither brown nor blue eyes.

  193. Jake says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    For Genghis Khan, the green eyes marked the fact that genetically he was part Caucasian (Turkic for certain, perhaps a bit of Magyar). The Mongol Hordes that swept west were racially and ethnically mixed. They included large numbers of men who were Caucasian, primarily Turkic. But more than a few Indo-Europeans joined the fun and games of endless slaughter and rapine.

  194. Jake says:
    @duncsbaby

    Both the Hunter-Gatherers and the early Farmers who lived in what is Europe would have been primarily brown-eyed. Indo-European speakers moving south and west out of the Eurasian steppes would have brought blue eyes to what would become Europe.

  195. KenH says:
    @JR Ewing

    Trevor Lawrence has the biggest face in the history of the world.

    You ain’t kidding. It’s almost as big as the busts on Mount Rushmore.

  196. Hox says:

    Pressure under fire is also required in battle. Same trait probably explains the lethality of mass shooters in Sailer’s Law.

  197. Corvinus says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    “America bragging about planting a flag on the moon in 1969 is like a 70 year old man bragging about winning the state championship in when he played QB in high school.”

    Truly, this comment is as anti-white as all get up. White inventions leading to one of the truly monumental white achievements in world history? Despicable, to say the least.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @El Dato
  198. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dutch Boy

    Not really. See Pat Fischer’s discussion of form tackling, here:

    The one aspect of head use that was taught then (and now) is use of the head to generate fumbles. But that is on the ball/hands and only done when the runner is in a crowd and tackle assured by teammates.

    In addition to the safety issues with lowering your head, it makes a missed tackle much more likely if the opponent jukes or spins. If your head is up, you can even usually snag a leg if a player hurdles you. But not if your head is down (too committed low). It also gives better leverage to drive up in the tackle (lifting action) when your head is up. Low man wins leverage, but you get low with your legs, not by waist bending.

    P.s. Segue: Little known fact, but Fisher actually had more career interceptions than Darrell Green (despite less games played). Not saying he was better CB–Darrell was. But interesting. There was one season where Fisher had 12 picks in 14 games!

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    , @Dutch Boy
  199. Svevlad says:
    @JR Ewing

    Might just be Dinaric or Scandinavian ancestry. Both have big, long-ish faces

  200. KenH says:
    @Thoughts

    Both of the above white males are Liberals. Trust Me.

    Trevor Lawrence already made several social justice ramblings during the 2020 season, so yeah, he’s definitely a negro worshipping leftard.

    • Replies: @Rooster11
  201. KenH says:

    Jewish sports commentators are beside themselves that there are so many white males in this year’s QB class. They’ve been trying since the late 1980’s to blacken the QB position since that was one of the last positions dominated by white males along with the TE position.

    Blacks have made inroads in the QB position but 2021 year will mark a big setback for black supremacy at the QB position.

    Jews and leftists love mulatto Patrick Mahomes who is their poster boy for hybrid vigor. But Tom Brady, at 43 years old and partially washed up, completely outplayed Mahomes who is much younger and reaching the peak of his career in the 2021 Super Bowl.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
  202. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Poles are about the same height as Italians, and Lithuanians are about the same height as the Irish:

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/average-height-of-men?tab=table

    Joe Montana is 50% Sicilian, 25% Piedmontese, and 25% English/Irish:

    https://ethnicelebs.com/joe-montana

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  203. Svevlad says:
    @Travis

    It’s a consequence of admixtures, Northerners seemed to have some sort of height selection so the blue eyed folks will tend to be taller as a result

    The med, brown-eye equivalent are the slightly taller Dinarids, but we’re far, far less spread out (and we got some blues too, from mixing)

  204. mmack says:
    @black sea

    “I don’t know what to make of someone who watches his father go through that, then plays college football himself.”

    Plenty of multi generational families in auto racing have seen the death of a father (Bettenhausen, Vukovich, Earnhardt), brother (Unser, Wilson) or son (Vukovich again). The two sons of the late Dan Wheldon (2005 and 2011 Indianapolis 500 winner, died in a racing accident in 2011) just signed development contacts to race for their father’s prior employer, Andretti Autosports.

    I suspect the confidence one has to be a top tier athlete gives one confidence bordering on arrogance that “nothing will ever happen to me.”

  205. @Chebyshev

    If he runs like Cam Newton, he’ll blow out his knees and be finished in 5-9 years. Cam was kept around way past his stale date, but he’s been done since 2015, easily. Run-around QBs simply don’t last very long.

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
  206. mmack says:
    @Clyde

    “Their vice is ice cream, lots of it. They can take no alcohol, no caffeine, no nicotine.”

    Don’t drink, don’t smoke, what do ya’ do?”

    Explains those big Mormon families.

  207. Curle says:
    @Anonymous

    Correct. I’m from a very old Tidewater family that was one of the earliest families to populate one very small berg near VA-now TN line. In the 1860s an conquistador body was uncovered there thought to be of DeSoto’s group but could have been Pardo’s. This place is effectively an ethnic isolate. It is close to the Melungeons, also an ethnic isolate. There have been stories about the Spanish remaining longer than previously thought but they were dismissed and the very notable brown complexion was attributed to Cherokee. DNA is showing a generalized 1/5 presence of Iberian among this population which is coming as quite a surprise as it is much higher than the British admixture norm.

    My working hypothesis is the Spanish left a bigger footprint south of VA than previously thought.

    • Replies: @Johnplywood
  208. Not sure how it translates on the gridiron (if at all) but–that first picture of Lawrence betrays no small degree of ruthlessness.

  209. Svevlad says:
    @Anon

    Perhaps an negligible amount that can’t even be detected.

    Remember, when natives and settlers were still sorta friendly and such mixing could take place, the natives got accidentally coof’d to death.

    The next moment mixing could have occurred, well, the natives and whites stopped getting along, at all

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  210. Ryan qb’d the Browns over the heavily favored Johnny Unitas-led Colts in the ’64 NFL Championship, mainly because Cleveland’s Blanton Collier took second year Colts head coach Don Shula to school. The next year the Browns lost to Green Bay when Lombardi outcoached Collier. No shame in that though, because in those days Lombardi outcoached EVERYBODY.

  211. El Dato says:
    @Corvinus

    You know about the Nazi Moonbases on the far side, right?

  212. @Unladen Swallow

    Dennis Rodman’s most accurate height in the public record is 6 feet, 6.5 inches (generally rounded up to 6’7″ for NBA purposes).

    Given his athleticism and aggressive attitude under the basket, if he had actually been a legitimate 6’9″, he might have averaged 20 rebounds per 40 minutes of playing time during his prime.

  213. @El Dato

    Perfect setup for whenever she gets under Sleepy Joe’s skin (i.e., frequently):

    KH: “Sir, I really think you ought to…”

    POTUS: “One more, ‘Sir, I really think,’ and, well, Miss Harris, you’re going to the moon. Bang, zoom!”

    • Replies: @El Dato
  214. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Only place I’ve ever been to with 80 percent of the population having noticeably blue eyes was Northwest Ireland.

    Is that the part of Ireland inhabited by Scots Irish?

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  215. @Curle

    Lol @ this cope. The Conquistadors didn’t bring along any Spanish women with them, so unless they stayed alive and fertile for over 100 years there’s no way they contributed anything to Virginians. Any descendants they left there would have to have been part Amerindian, and no DNA study bills Virginians as 1/5 Iberian. Stop lying and just face the fact that you’re a halfbreed with black and Amerindian ancestry. I thought you Southerners were proud of your history?

    • Replies: @Curle
  216. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @S. Anonyia

    No they don’t. A romantic legend, that’s all. DNA tests have pretty much disproven this widespread notion.

    The DNA tests aren’t sensitive to all of the old East Coast tribes, many of which in the present day are very marginalized or aren’t identifiable at all. There is also an issue of dilution over many generations. There was a lot of intermixing with the Europeans.

  217. Anonymous[131] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed

    Do you a study to back that up? After the 17th century the color lines were fairly strict. There were some mixed communities in Virginia, Maryland and North Carolina plus some fair skinned blacks passing for white, like some of the Hemmings, but this was a small percentage of the southern population.

    Are you making a distinction between blacks and Indians?

    • Replies: @Ed
  218. Bill P says:
    @Steve Sailer

    It might just be that football is played in the darker months and vision is more important to quarterbacks than any other position. Blue eyes see better in lower light.

  219. e says:
    @JR Ewing

    Trevor Lawrence has the biggest face in the history of the world.

    The tyrannical governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, might win that title for women.

  220. @R.G. Camara

    Don’t forget that the Rock’s father was also a former professional wrestler.

  221. Bill P says:

    According to my family genealogy book (descendants of a particular Jamestown settler), I’m descended from Pocahontas, but if she’s the only Indian in the woodpile it might not show up on a DNA test. A lot of Americans probably have that kind of negligible Amerindian ancestry, but as you proceed west from the eastern seaboard toward Oklahoma it increases.

    Trevor Lawrence is from Tennessee, right? It wouldn’t be all that extraordinary if he had an Indian great grandparent or the genetic equivalent.

    His profile really looks Indian. Low forehead, large face, aquiline nose, slight prognathism and prominent cheekbones:

    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Farc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2FO7W7WZQYPYI6XC62QFGKK3QTRM.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fsports%2F2020%2F10%2F30%2Ftrevor-lawrence-covid-clemson%2F&docid=7XVtGfCc2NipKM&tbnid=gw73Tov3_kUA8M&vet=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim

    Also note his sparse facial hair. Could be a coincidence, but maybe not.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Chebyshev
  222. e says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I stood an arm’s length from Trump in 2007 when he came off the 18th green at Spyglass Hill to sign autographs for a group of kids who had called him over when their first choice, actor Mark Wahlberg, ignore their calls, wouldn’t even look their way.

    I’m 5’6″ and I’m used to being next to a man who is 6 ft. . Trump was at least 6’2″, maybe an inch taller considering his head was hanging a bit as he signed the autographs and talked to kids who were of junior high age primarily.

  223. TWS says:
    @John Up North

    I’m a good six inches taller than Steve Largent the Seahawks receiver. When we shook hands it was a huge difference. A lot bigger than my hands. The only guys I’ve met with that kind of hand strength in the real world are fishermen who pull pots and nets all day without machinery and old time loggers.

  224. e says:
    @Wade Hampton

    Kenny was just always hung-over. LOL.

    Actually, let us not forget former Bears’ BYU qb, Jim McMahon, who had the “berzker gene,” I’m sure.

  225. El Dato says:
    @Gary in Gramercy

    “America 2021”

    This episode: Everything FUCKING EXPLODES!

  226. anonymous[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill P

    I’m descended from Pocahontas, but if she’s the only Indian in the woodpile it might not show up on a DNA test. A lot of Americans probably have that kind of negligible Amerindian ancestry,

    Makes sense. Another question is whether these East Coast tribes that assimilated into the European population were even registered and identified in the commercial DNA databases.

    His profile really looks Indian. Low forehead, large face, aquiline nose, slight prognathism and prominent cheekbones:

    Are those also Germanic features? The long nose may be.

    • Replies: @Bill P
  227. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    You, on the other hand, seem to be on a spiritual mission to deny this.

    Projection, thy name is….

  228. They were about the only white guys in the first round. I saw some of the draft and the NFL is now as black as the NBA. Seemed 90% of the picks were black with a few whites and islanders thrown in.

  229. Travis says:
    @indocon

    over the last 22 years, only one quarterback ranked in the top five of highest annual salary has even made it to the Super Bowl and that was Peyton Manning in 2014 when he lost badly to Seattle. To get to the Super Bowl you need an above average team, which means you need to pay your QB less than average to build such a team.

    look at the Super Bowl winning quarterbacks and it is clear, the lower you pay your QB the better the team will be. 15 of the last 21 winning QBs had below average salaries when they won the Super Bowl and most of the losing QBs also had below average salaries when they made it to the Super Bowl

  230. Looks like Neanderthal QB vs. Cro-Magnon QB to me:

  231. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polistra

    you don’t get it do you dude?

    politics (economics, policing, mass media, mass edumacation) is just getting along with other people.

    or it’s imposing your will on them.

    both of these are things no one would care about if he weren’t dependent on other people.

    why are humans dependent on other humans?

    if other people suck, why would you want to get along with them?

    try harder mein herr. try for that face.

  232. @Abolish_public_education

    True.

    If you want your young athlete to succeed, you’ll have to spend a ridiculous amount on equipment, travel teams, strength coaches, visiting universities to meet scouts, etc.

    Imagine you invest all that time&money, but your young athlete still can’t even get a college scholarship.

    What a waste.

  233. @Anonymous

    Yet another complete “Anon” comment that’s not terribly informed. Not on a mission, just out to disprove a goofy assumption. After the 1700s, whites who mixed with Amerindians tended to be absorbed into the Amerindian community, not the other way around (see the rather Euro-looking tribes in Oklahoma for reference). One side of my family is working class and deeply rooted in the upper South. My mom took a DNA test and found out she’s entirely British/Irish with a little Swiss German despite longtime rumors of Cherokee ancestry. On the other hand it is true that I have a “drop” of black ancestry but it comes from the other side of my family, where many of my ancestors were North Euro immigrants to Deep South port cities after the Civil War. These immigrants married local French Catholics due to shared religion and at least one of these women was mixed-race due to her family’s origins in the French West Indies. The side of my family with the drop of black ancestry is lighter-complected than the other side, so I don’t think it has any influence on appearance. South Louisiana and peripheral areas in its cultural orbit are where you are most likely to find Southerners with any admixture, and even then it’s fairly minimal.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Curle
  234. Anonymous[803] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svevlad

    Perhaps an negligible amount that can’t even be detected.

    Remember, when natives and settlers were still sorta friendly and such mixing could take place, the natives got accidentally coof’d to death.

    The next moment mixing could have occurred, well, the natives and whites stopped getting along, at all

    Most Southerners have Indian ancestry. They mixed upon arrival and they continued to mix in the 20th Country. Your “the next moment” story doesn’t track the reality of the assimilation.

    Words like “negligible” are purely subjective, and beside the point really. You seem to have a vested interest in denying Southern heritage.

  235. Anonymous[803] • Disclaimer says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Yet another complete “Anon” comment that’s not terribly informed. Not on a mission, just out to disprove a goofy assumption. After the 1700s, whites who mixed with Amerindians tended to be absorbed into the Amerindian community, not the other way around (see the rather Euro-looking tribes in Oklahoma for reference).

    It went both ways. And Oklahomans with Indian ancestry are as good evidence of Indians assimilating into the American culture and community as the reverse.

    One side of my family is working class and deeply rooted in the upper South. My mom took a DNA test and found out she’s entirely British/Irish with a little Swiss German despite longtime rumors of Cherokee ancestry.

    How reliable is the test? Do you understand the methodology it uses to determine Indian ancestry?

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  236. unwoke says:

    “…it is hard to predict who will succeed at QB in the NFL.”

    …it sure is, & with all the hoopla over the draft, some may not have noticed that 6’2″(?), brown-eyed QB Dakota Prescott, who has never gotten his team past the divisional playoffs, just signed a new four year contract with the Dallas Cowboys for an insane $160 million dollars (including a $66 million signing bonus). In fact, the four highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL are Black. Besides Prescott, Patrick Mahomes, DeshaunWatson, &Russell Wilson; only Mahomes & Wilson have won a Super Bowl, one each. Brown-eyed Wilson is listed as being only 5’11”. Tom Brady, who has won a record seven Super Bowls, earns a very comfortable $25 million per season, but not even in the top ten among NFL quarterbacks. Hard to predict, hard to figure.

  237. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    This source lists Lithuania at 10th in height, and Poland tied with Germany at 19th. Ireland is 34th, and Italy is 82nd. Lithuania and Poland produce a lot of strongman and powerlifting athletes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  238. Curle says:
    @S. Anonyia

    “ After the 1700s, whites who mixed with Amerindians tended to be absorbed into the Amerindian community, not the other way around (see the rather Euro-looking tribes in Oklahoma for reference)”

    I’ve heard this point argued differently, that of admixed siblings of the same mixed marriage parents the ones with whiter appearance tend to intermarry with whites and identify as white and those with more Amerindian features tended to intermarry with Amerindians and identify as Amerindians. As this process progresses and more whites are introduced to the eligible spouse pool compared to Amerindians you should expect to see a dilution of the Amerindian percentages over time such that they eventually become undetectable which is nearly the present situation in the South.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  239. @Anonymous

    No, it was the sparsely populated NW coast of the republic around Donegal/Mayo/Sligo, not Northern Ireland.

  240. @Polistra

    sometimes one must take his toys and go home because he is NOT a baby.

    capiche?

  241. Curle says:
    @Johnplywood

    You claim apropos of nothing that “no DNA study bills Virginians as 1/5 Iberian.”

    Of course, my claim was that Virginia and TN border ethnic isolates show these results. My statement comes from my personal familiarity with the common DNA results of such an community near the TN/VA border where all of the population are reputed relatives. But, since you desire studies, there’s this (Toward a Genetic Profile of Melungeons in Southern Appalachia).

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/41320252?seq=1

    And in contradiction of your theory there is this from the above referenced study:

    “In strict OmniPop comparisons, Portuguese matches were No. 1 in eight profiles (20%). Spanish populations were No. 1 in 13 (33%). Spanish sub-populations most often listed were Andalusian, Catalan, Balearic, Majorcan and Minorcan – all on the Mediterranean side of the Iberian Peninsula. Strict ENFSI analysis indicated that the principal European countries and regions of likely ancestral origin for our sample on a weighted basis were as follows:
    Rank
    Population
    Weighted Score
    1.
    Scotland/Dundee
    143
    2.
    Denmark
    138
    3.
    Ireland
    115
    4.
    Belgium
    104
    5.
    France/Toulouse
    103
    6.
    Spain
    102
    7.
    Switzerland
    101
    8.
    Portugal
    100
    9.
    Italy
    100
    10.
    England/Wales
    98

    Spanish didn’t reproduce in America’s you say, but their DNA in percentages far exceeding British Isle norms for ancient quantum got to the earliest European settlements in the southern highlands. Tis a mystery, no?

    By the way, for those interested in conquistadors and VA/TN border there’s this:

    http://www.holstonia.net/files/GlanvilleConquistadors2014.pdf

    • Replies: @Johnplywood
  242. Chebyshev says:
    @Jim Christian

    He’ll be a pocket passer first, and run and pick up yardage only when the play breaks down and nobody’s open. That’s the ideal combination for a long career.

  243. @Anonymous

    I agree Amerindians have assimilated well into American culture. But that doesn’t mean every Southern celebrity with a high cheekbones or a tan has any significant Amerindian ancestry. However, if you are so adamant about ascribing that ancestry to us Southerners, most won’t complain (my mother was actually really disappointed with her DNA results), and it will certainly be a relief to Liz Warren.

  244. @Curle

    There is nothing ln that study that says they are 1/5th Spanish. Your study concerns Melungeons, who are ethnically mixed with French and Irish people. They aren’t weighted towards Spanish any more so than their ancestral relatives, the people of Ireland and France. All this study reflects is the fact that the Melungeon people of the South are partially French and Irish, which we already knew.

    • Troll: Clyde
    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Curle
  245. @Anonymous

    Perhaps “fearful” was not the best word choice. It might be better to say that blue eyes are associated with behavioral inhibition. People who are inhibited tend to restrain their emotions or instincts, both positive and negative. Children who are very inhibited are more likely to stand off to the side rather than play with other children, and blue-eyed children have been shown to be more likely to engage in solitary play (as opposed to playing with others) than children with other eye colors. This can also explain the greater propensity to alcoholism displayed by blue-eyed people – alcohol relaxes inhibitions, allowing more inhibited people to feel less shy or self-conscious.

    On the other hand, remaining cool under pressure is a matter of inhibiting the natural fear response that most people naturally feel in highly stressful situations. Just as a shy child suppresses his desire to play with others due to feelings of self-consciousness, a person who is cool under pressure suppresses the natural tendency to fear or panic and thus remains calm and rational even under high stress situations. Delayed gratification is similar – an uninhibited person is more likely to do what he or she wants in the moment, while a more inhibited person will restrict the natural desire for immediate gratification.

  246. Bill P says:
    @anonymous

    I knew a Swedish guy who looked quite similar, but he had curly blond hair, he was not prognathic, he could grow a real beard and his face wasn’t quite as large as Lawrence’s. Also, when Nordics have long noses they are typically quite narrow, whereas Lawrence’s nose is not.

    I think there’s a look that a lot of Indians and Europeans have in common due to shared ANE ancestry, but Lawrence is either a rather extreme European example of it, which would be rare for an Anglo, or he’s got some Indian in there. That’s my guess anyway.

  247. Trevor Lawrence does not look like an American Indian. He looks a bit like Max Von Sydow, who was not an AI.

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
  248. @KenH

    It’s funny that the longest-tenured black NFL QB was Warren Moon, who was a pure pocket passer.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  249. Chebyshev says:
    @Bill P

    Lawrence having 10% or more Native American DNA would be pretty extraordinary, and it’s surely not the case, because he does not claim Native American heritage. White Americans will claim that they’re part Indian when they’re not Indian at all genetically. Having 2 percent or more Amerindian DNA without having any knowledge of that ancestry in your family tree has to be very rare. He could have <1%, but that wouldn't influence his phenotype at all.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  250. Chebyshev says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    He looks like Roger Waters.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  251. @Chebyshev

    A Heisman trophy QB, Sam Bradford (?), is 1/16th American Indian and looks considerably more so.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  252. Curle says:
    @Johnplywood

    “There is nothing ln that study that says they are 1/5th Spanish.”

    You are apparently struggling with the fact that I cited to personal knowledge of unpublished DNA from a community near the Melungeons with common 1/5 th Iberian results which happens to be consistent with the findings of the Melungeon study showing Portuguese and Spanish ranking #1 & 2 in highest % of DNA among persons tested. That study does not specify what the % is in those instances making them highest but one might start from norms for highest percentages, say British Isles, which some, maybe you, seem to believe to be so dominant in the South as to make 20% of DNA small for a typical highest DNA source.

    The study shows that in 33% of samples Portuguese is the highest DNA and in 22% of samples Spanish is the highest DNA. For 55% of Melungeon samples Iberian DNA is their highest % DNA. When weighted averages are sliced and diced Spain, Portugal and France (identified as southern France) constitute 27% of the total, again consistent with the 20% Iberian DNA results from the adjoining community. When the Italian % is added the Southern European % rises to 36%. So, in one of the earliest European settlements in the southern highlands where there has been little to no in migration since -17th century we see 36% Southern European DNA percentages. And you question that darker complexions than normal for Northern Europeans in the South can only be the consequence of black or NA genetic contributions? Your theory is untenable.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  253. @Chebyshev

    He looks like Roger Waters.

    He does look like Roger Waters.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  254. Rooster11 says:
    @KenH

    These “kids” are especially susceptible to push this narrative due to the fact that they have millions of dollars dangling in their faces. They’re told “say the right thing or else”. They also know they’re going into a league where there’s a very big “social justice” push, so why make waves when just playing the game is tough enough. All the major sporting goods corporations are also on the SJW train, so saying the wrong thing could result in hundreds of millions of dollars in lost future revenue. Not to mention the team he’s going to will be comprised of 60-70% black men that look like modern day Hulks.

    Believe me I don’t like it anymore than you do. The entire sports world had been intimidated and infiltrated by the SJW cult. Massive amounts of minorities playing them, hardcore lesbian feminist announcers/refs/corp sponsors, leftwing media dominance. The left made it a point to take over the sports world many years ago, and they’re now entangled in it from grade school to the pros. In order to untangle it, the whole system needs to come down… and I don’t mean just the sports system.

    • Replies: @Wency
  255. @Steve Sailer

    IIRC, Richard Sherman was interviewed on First Take after the Seahawks won the Super Bowl, and Skip Bayless called him Super Bowl Champion Richard Sherman.

    Sherman replied.

    “Skip, it’s Stanford graduate and Super Bowl champion Richard Sherman.”

  256. Curle says:
    @Johnplywood

    BTW- If the Irish generally are like the rest of the UK and Northern Ireland their Iberian % hovers around 2% not 20%. I think I covered this already by pointing out the gap b/w Melungeon Iberian quantum and typical British quantum that can reasonably be attributed to ancient DNA. Assume an 18% Iberian DNA gain for the Melungeons.

  257. @Anonymous

    Just couldn’t work in that Pat was a Washington Redskin, couldja?

  258. @Ben tillman

    It’s funny that the longest-tenured black NFL QB was Warren Moon, who was a pure pocket passer.

    Doug Williams, Joe Gibbs’ second Super Bowl winning QB, didn’t do too bad himself, being the first black QB to win a Super Bowl. Have there been black QBs to win the Super Bowl since?

    • Replies: @KenH
  259. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:

    HHTR, baby.

    P.s. You are probably joking, but Wilson and Mahomes also did.

  260. Ed says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes. The color line was harsher for blacks than Indians.

  261. @Feryl

    I’m sure some aren’t the…. sharpest. But if they can memorise a playbook etc they are not terminally stupid (as we know, many (of any shade) are)

    • Replies: @Feryl
  262. Steve might be the only living human for whom this spoiler is incorrect. IIRC Rote was big with Christian Athlete types so they might know too.

  263. @Curle

    This chart shows shows the skin lightness/darkness of various ethnic groups. Higher values mean lighter skin:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_reflectance

    As we can see, there is not much difference between Spaniards and British people. The combined Spanish samples actually have a lighter complexion than the combined United Kingdom samples (which are both comprised of native white British from the North of England, and London).

    All Europeans cluster in the 60-66 value range, compared to the intermediate nonwhites like the Japanese and Moroccans, who are in the 40s and mid-50s.

    These facts alone demolish your theory that dark southerners are descended from Spaniards, because Spaniards are not actually significantly darker than British people. You can’t tell a difference between an average Anglo and an average Spaniard with your naked eye.

    You have completely mis-red the data in that study about Melungeons, and you are lying about the rest of the data you claim to be privy to. That study does not say that 22% of melungeons are largely Spanish, and the study didn’t even scan for African or Amerindian ancestry, which we know Melungeons have.

    The study is basically worthless, and we know there is not a southern European Y-chromosomal legacy in Melungeons or southerners in general, further complicating your conspiracy that “conquistadors” survived unmixed for hundreds of years in Appalachia, and actually made a substantial genetic contribution to Appalachians, despite not having any European women to breed with, and the complete lack of historical evidence for any such event.

    Just face it bro, you’re mixed with with brown women.

    • Troll: Clyde
    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Curle
  264. Anonymous[896] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s probably wrong. It contradicts the heights and rankings in the source I posted, as well as the measured heights listed below it:

    Poland: 175.4 cm (172.2–178.7)
    Italy: 176.5 cm
    Ireland: 177 cm
    Lithuania: 178.6 cm (176.2–181.3)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country#Height_surveys_and_studies

    And I don’t see Poles or Lithuanians being overrepresented in powerlifting:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_championships_medalists_in_powerlifting_(men)

  265. midtown says:
    @Feryl

    If the game were changed to limit subs or make the course of play more freeflowing (like rugby), it would automatically have this effect.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  266. RobertTS says:

    Is the blonde-eye advantage a legacy of Western Hunter-Gatherers having to excel at hunting and tracking in the snowbound forested wastes of Northwestern Eurasia?

  267. @Anonymous

    DNA tests haven’t disproven anything

    Your theory is junk.

    >DNA is “junk”

    >Anon’s incoherent, histrionic blabbering is “science”

    Sounds legit

  268. Curle says:
    @JohnPlywood

    Spanish Florida. Two hundred miles from Chattanooga TN.

    https://www.themaparchive.com/product/spanish-florida-c-1660/

    Spaniards. Indistinguishable from Irish says Troll.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  269. Anon[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    And the self-marginalization of the Republican party continues apace. If it was a stock, I’d short it.

  270. Feryl says:
    @animalogic

    I was getting at defensive players being selected for reckless abandon moreso than offensive players. Thus one would expect them to be a bit dimmer than the offensive players*. Outlier: running backs tend to be on the dumber side** while cornerback seem a bit more cerebral than the other defensive positions.

    *In the late 00’s/early 2010’s, the Vikings had a D-lineman named Pat Williams who always spoke gibberish. Sort of like Boomhauer with Ebonics. Not Mensa material.

    **As the misadventures of Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice would suggest.

  271. Feryl says:
    @midtown

    Selection for stamina would slow the game down (the fast twitch dense monsters would be out of the picture). A better idea would be weight limits since we’d still have explosive face offs but the fast twitch monsters would shed bulk making themselves healthier and improving safety (you really don’t want a 300 pound guy falling into your ankles and knees.).

  272. KenH says:
    @Jim Christian

    I was going to add Doug Williams but you beat me to it. He was a pocket passer and rarely used his legs. Williams is the only pure black QB to ever win the Super Bowl. I don’t consider Mahomes blacks since he his mulatto and very light skinned although blacks will claim him as one of their own since he’s a good player. But if he was a bum and child molester than blacks would consider him “white”.

    Russell Wilson is not a coal black African so I don’t think he counts either.

    The ability to read defenses and quickly audible into or out of a play is key to succeeding as a QB in the NFL. But that takes intelligence and the willingness to watch lots of film neither of which are possessed by most black QB’s. This is why they generally sputter in the playoffs when defensive coordinators add wrinkles to their defenses that black QB’s fail to recognize and counter like a Tom Brady or Eli Manning could.

  273. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curle

    Skin color is measured on untanned parts of the body, so posting a bunch of tanned soccer fans doesn’t prove anything. The people in your second pic are less tanned and most of them could pass as Atlantids from Britain and Ireland.

  274. @Steve Sailer

    Biden didn’t win. He was installed. So height did win.

  275. @Lurker

    You’re a good man, a great man in fact!

    Tonight in Sydney I’ve come home to the fact that Covid has been detected in the sewers for a fortnight and 2 people now have it!

    Things have been fine and normal for that entire fortnight, no mass deaths and no holocaust-like funeral pyres, yet we’ve now got another absurd face mask bullshit 3 days of “Covid” restrictions.

    You, I and BB753 are among the few that stand athwart the rising tide of imbecility.

    To us!

    • Replies: @Lurker
  276. @Steve Sailer

    Steve, do you see how you autistically defended Trump on the basis of height?

    Biden isn’t short Why do you care about his height?!

    You know the entrance test for Irgun didn’t include height, right?

    Based on your metrics Menachem Begin wouldn’t have made designated former terrorist group and your homeland wouldn’t have been formed.

    In the age of mass nutrition height isn’t determinative of outcome. Now there’s something to sink your teeth into!

  277. Wency says:
    @Rooster11

    Yeah, this sounds about right. The NFL is 70% black. Does anyone honestly think a white guy coming up in the summer of BLM and hoping to be captain of an NFL team could get anywhere if he publicly distanced himself from BLM? If his black teammates publicized that he flat out refused to offer his support? As it stands he treated Trump with cordiality and I don’t think ever publicly criticized him, and he agreed to make some vague statements on behalf of BLM at the urging of his mostly black teammates.

    Lawrence would seem, by all appearances, to be a devout Evangelical. My guess is he doesn’t care much about racial issues one way or the other, but he does care about playing football, and so he’ll say whatever he needs to say about race to make sure that his statements on race aren’t the reason he can’t keep playing football.

  278. Dutch Boy says:
    @Anonymous

    Blocking and tackling was taught not with the head down but with the head up and the forehead area driven into the opponent (“bite ’em in the chest”).

  279. Lurker says:
    @Pat Hannagan

    Cheers mate, thanks.

    Worked on the UK elections on Thursday. All sorts of absurd kung-flu measures had to be followed. Klownworld indeed.

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