RSS
As part of the Not So Great Reset, the National Football League is stopping giving its hugely entertaining 12 minute Wonderlic IQ test to draft prospects. After all, we don’t get to know the IQs of any other sets of celebrities, so why should football players not be exempt from objective scrutiny too? From NBC Sports:
Report: NFL abandons the Wonderlic test
Posted by Mike Florio on January 5, 2022, 11:01 AM EST
In a memo distributed to all NFL teams on Wednesday, a copy of which was obtained by Rob Maaddi of the Associated Press, the league explained that the 50-question test of general intelligence will be eliminated from the pre-draft process.
Long a source of controversy given the irrelevance of the scores and other factors that make the outcomes unreliable (including whether the players care about the test or even realized they’d be taking it), the NFL continued to implement the test as part of the obsession with having apples-to-apples data points over the various years of draft classes.
Obtaining and reporting low scores became a cottage industry for sports media. We used to seek out those numbers, aggressively. Eventually, we realized that they aren’t reliable — and that it’s unfair to use low scores as the basis for ridiculing the intelligence of the players who took the test. In recent years, we completely refrained from publishing specific scores for specific players.
At one point, agents obtained the various versions of the test and gave them to their clients, allowing them to have the best possible preparation for the exam. Scouts shrugged at the perception/reality of cheating. As one scout told PFT years ago, if the players can memorize the multiple versions of the Wonderlic and repeat the answers when called upon to do so, they can memorize a playbook. And that’s all that matters.
Then there’s the other end of the spectrum. Doing too well on the test. Former NFL punter Pat McInally (pictured) got the only 50 in the history of the pre-draft Wonderlic process. Some coaches may feel threatened by having players in the locker room who are smarter than the Phys Ed majors that end up scratching out Xs and Os for a living.
“Coaches and front-office guys don’t like extremes one way or the other, but particularly not on the high side,” McInally said in 2006, explaining that he believes the perfect score hurt his draft stock. “I think they think guys who are intelligent will challenge authority too much.”
Hopefully, the abandonment of the Wonderlic at the league level means that teams won’t be able to implement the test during individual visits with players. If not, most teams will be tempted to continue to use the test, making the broader decision to abandon it largely meaningless.
The Wonderlic test is meaningless to football.
Which is why the journalist is worried that NFL teams will continue to use the Wonderlic on the down-low.
Here’s Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Cooper Kupp (132 on the Wonderlic), who has a chance this weekend to break the NFL record for most receiving yards in a season held by Calvin Johnson (140), answering a question:
English
Arabic
Chinese (Simplified)
Dutch
French
German
Hebrew
Hindi
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Persian
Polish
Portuguese
Russian
Spanish
Swedish
Turkish
Vietnamese
They won’t use it on the down low, players will refuse to take it and report any team that pressures them to take as racist. The test will provide very little reward for high risk of negative press going forward. They should be able to tell which guys are morons in a pre draft interview without it.
Fortunately, all independent objective sources are irrelevant.
I can’t wait for Troof to weigh in on this latest outrage……Old Sport!
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/deshaun-watson-lovers-are-panicking-over-his-wonderlic-score/Replies: @Mike Tre, @Buffalo Joe
Why not invite potential players to shoot a game of pool but make them have to sink the shot while one or two balls are in motion? Isn’t that the kind of spatial awareness you want in a football player?
That was the point Colin Cowherd made in a monologue I happened to catch on sportstalk radio once. I bet he reads iSteve.
Also, football at the pro level is complicated in other ways. Players winging it on on intuitive spatial awareness thru high school and college will have a hard time. At the pro level, everybody's got exquisite spatial awareness. You also need pattern recognition and memorization and strategic thinking. You also need good social skills, like nerdy guys like Eli and Payton Manning motivating their bigger, stronger teammates to fight like hell for them. Apparently everyone on the Pats hated Aaron Rodriguez and the normally sharp Bill Belichik should have seen that coming, starting with the gang tats.
I'm guessing teams will find other ways to test for impulse control and weed out violent dumbasses.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Feryl
Hardly a surprise now that college admission tests are being done away with. Anything that highlights lack of jogger intelligence and/or makes Whites feel guilty about highlighting jogger lack of intelligence must go.
Everything POCs don’t do well – tests, obeying the law, etc, – is now racist. And it’s YT’s fault.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32998827/nfl-teams-lose-draft-pick-face-fines-unprofessional-conduct-draft-prospect-interviews
OK, I really didn’t have a witty comment, but since I’m taking requests:
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/deshaun-watson-lovers-are-panicking-over-his-wonderlic-score/
Never stopped you before.Replies: @Truth, @Ben tillman
That guy sounds like Boomhauer.
Damn, is Cooper the Micro Machines guy’s son?
Former Ravens guard and First Team All-Big Ten, John Urschel, gives talk on An Introduction to Determinantal Point Processes—
At Institute for Advanced Study, former institution of Einstein, Gödel, von Neumann, amongst many other luminaries.
Calvin Johnson was awesome. Too bad he played on terrible teams. He did so with self respect so good on him .
OT:
Is there some reason to suspect that an electric car is comparatively worse at turning its battery energy into heat, than a gasoline car? Seems pretty clear to me it is comparatively better, much better. Electric resistance heating is very efficient--the energy loss pretty much *is* the heat. In contrast, idling your gasoline engine, enough to heat the coolant and getting--some--heat transfer from that hot coolant into your car is actually piss poor.
My rough estimate would be at idle you can run your engine for an hour on a gallon. So if you have say 10 gallons left in the tank when stranded you have 10 heater hours, which of course you can stretch to last a couple days.
Much less informed about electrics--no experience with one--but i'd venture that if there's a couple hundred miles of battery charge left--while that is much less actual energy content than the 10 gallons of gas--that is sufficient to run your much more efficient electric heater a pretty darn long time, probably longer than the car.
~~
My overall take: look at the weather and stay home!
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/deshaun-watson-lovers-are-panicking-over-his-wonderlic-score/Replies: @Mike Tre, @Buffalo Joe
“OK, I really didn’t have a witty comment, ”
Never stopped you before.
Someone suggested the test could be used in concussion lawsuits.
testing - are they doing away with it so´s not to discriminate against those
who were stoopid from the beginning?
He’s certainly right about that. People who are truly smart (not smart-alecky or merely learned but genuinely profound) tend to make other people very uncomfortable, especially those whose power comes from their office and not their inner greatness.
Wide receiver is the position that requires the least of a players intellect. That shows up on the Wonderlic. A intelligent WR, like Eddleman, may be more involved in the game and very prone to changing plans on the fly by helping out his QB in a blitz etc, but even the corners that must defend againt WR demonstrate understanding of the larger schemes required to defend them.
Stupid but physically gifted QBs don’t cut it or if they do, for a short period of time untill defensive schemes and injuries quickly overtake them. It’s hard to find a less phyically gifted QB than Brady.
All that said, the black NFL average IQ is slightly over 100, so the game is complicated and demanding. The one thing NFL coaches cannot stand is slack. The Patriots a few years ago had a practice squad running back promoted due to a running back injury and he immediately gained 200 yards, was late for the next practice, and cut.
Here’s Ozamataz Buckshank’s post-game interview. I’m not sure what he got on the Wonderlic.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-2ZxldMO-MReplies: @PaceLaw, @PaceLaw
All football players are dumb. Who needs a test to know the obvious?
https://www.boardvitals.com/blog/nfl-players-turned-doctors/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Doornink (See also)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_White
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaine_Nye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Dawkins
Many such cases.
Good to hear the NFL is finally complying with Griggs vs. Duke Power.
As the learned justices have instructed us, intelligence is irrelevant to operating a power plant. And irrelevant for anything, including an NFL player … other than being a brilliant lawyer like a learned Supreme Court Justice. For that, of course, you must be really smart, in order to come up with decisions like Griggs.
https://twitter.com/TheWizardsQuest/status/1478539091365044225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1478539091365044225%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdirectorblue.blogspot.com%2FReplies: @Wade Hampton, @Buffalo Joe, @possumman, @AnotherDad
The good news is that the heavy adopters of electric cars will all be progressives, like the enthusiasts of the Covid “vaccines” and their eternal boosters. Quoting Derb, “life is an IQ test”.
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/deshaun-watson-lovers-are-panicking-over-his-wonderlic-score/Replies: @Mike Tre, @Buffalo Joe
Truth, that is most receptions in a single season (140), and this season is one game longer so an asterisk record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-dH7oLrcBQ
At Institute for Advanced Study, former institution of Einstein, Gödel, von Neumann, amongst many other luminaries.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Alfa158, @fish
Chin, John graduated from the local Jesuit Prep HS. When he came off the field in HS and college his mother used to say, “John, you don’t have to do this.”
https://twitter.com/TheWizardsQuest/status/1478539091365044225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1478539091365044225%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdirectorblue.blogspot.com%2FReplies: @Wade Hampton, @Buffalo Joe, @possumman, @AnotherDad
Mike, just a couple of years ago, here in WNY, a driver was buried in his car during a near blizzard. Stayed in touch with his family by cell phone, but troopers and road crews could not locate him. Car ran out of gas and he died. Maybe he lived a while longer in his gas powered vehicle but he still died.
OTOH, in an electric I'd more likely have an arctic sleeping bag with plenty of energy food. And plenty of Joe Biden underwear.
Seems odd.Replies: @Technite78
Stay safe, Joe.
Wouldn’t this make the test more reliable?
When attributing anonymous texts, the trick is to ignore the important, meaty stuff and to concentrate on the trivial, verbal tics and the like. Precisely because the author is not thinking of them.
Instead of eliminating the IQ test at the beginning of their careers, shouldn’t they add an IQ test at the end, in order to measure the brain damage?
Or maybe this is about burying the evidence.
I wonder if some teams (e.g., New England) will use the test on their own to create competitive advantage over those that don't?Replies: @Brutusale
There is an incentives problem here. If I can take a test at the end of my career and the worse I do on the test the more money I get paid, then, um ...
Never stopped you before.Replies: @Truth, @Ben tillman
SLATE talks to a professor at the U of Chicago who has analyzed the Jan. 6 riot:
We Know Exactly Who the Capitol Rioters Were
A year later, a fuller picture of who really drove the riot is clear. The lessons for 2022 and beyond are sobering.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/01/january-6-capitol-riot-arrests-research-profile.html
Yeah, I mean what kind of loser would think that the Whites are being replaced? That’s crazy talk!
https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-census-data-shows-the-nation-is-diversifying-even-faster-than-predicted/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_fiCr2wHY8Replies: @Anon
The funniest thing they did was the hood version of Hogwarts.
https://youtu.be/PkUsK9cqt_E
Rams WR Cooper Kupp in 2021 sounds just like Rams interim head coach Joe Vitt in 2005. No one ever mistook Vitt’s vertical distance high above average on the Asperger scale for his horizontal distance right of average on the IQ bell curve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-dH7oLrcBQ
At Institute for Advanced Study, former institution of Einstein, Gödel, von Neumann, amongst many other luminaries.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Alfa158, @fish
That’s what my wife calls math hair. Whenever she was working out math problems she used to unconsciously run her fingers up through her hair. When she looked in the mirror and saw the resulting teased out rats nest look she would cry out “Ahh! I’ve got math hair!”
In fairness to the players, a lot of idiotic stuff had happened at the draft combine. Not mentioned in this link, Matthew Stafford has said one team asked him a bunch of questions about his parents divorce.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32998827/nfl-teams-lose-draft-pick-face-fines-unprofessional-conduct-draft-prospect-interviews
First they will hide IQ tests (or some proxies) results, then they will decline to use them, and finally they will make them illegal. Along with no pictures or races of criminals in the media, of course.
If data are inconvenient, just get rid of the data and make data-collection illegal.
We will just be left with our own lying eyes in our (limited) individual lives.
Useful rule of thumb. Whoever is hiding the data is lying.
Just what’s the point of giving IQ tests to sportsmen it’s preposterous like giving physicals to physicists. How many scientists would pass the standard Marines physicals?
I remember how the Seattle city counsel hired (\$150,000) a former pimp as a consultant to advise them about how hood-thinking works. The NFL should take a lesson from that, and hire Antonio Brown as a consultant on cognitive and emotional states that might constitute an impediment to NFL performance.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-2ZxldMO-MReplies: @PaceLaw, @PaceLaw
Thanks for sharing!! That was hilarious!!!
I can definitely can see both sides of this. Professional football teams are definitely investing significant sums of money into these young men, so I can see how they would want to get a handle on how mature and intelligent they are. But at the same time, what do the scores fully predict? Just look at players like Antonio Brown, who recently melted down on the field on Sunday, but who has had a long and profitable career even though I’m sure he scored in the single digits on this test. Something tells me that Ray Lewis, the Hall of Fame linebacker from the Baltimore Ravens, also scored very poorly. At the end of the day, professional football is a violent game so I don’t know how much IQ (outside of a few skill positions such as quarterback) really matters.
1) There's a floor, after which other factors start to weigh more heavily.
2) Everything else being equal, the smarter prospect is a better bet.
lmao at a “sports reporter” (re: waterboy) claiming he realized a stat was unreliable, unfair, and therefore refused to use it or comment on it.
These self-hating white clowns are so pathetic, I wonder if they invest in knee pads.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j-2ZxldMO-MReplies: @PaceLaw, @PaceLaw
I respectfully disagree. This is the funniest clip they did or if not at least a close number two.
If data are inconvenient, just get rid of the data and make data-collection illegal.
We will just be left with our own lying eyes in our (limited) individual lives.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @res
I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a “Local News Shouldn’t Report On Crime” campaign from the Establishment Media.
This interview covers a lot in 4 minutes: upbringing, attitude toward sports, his current high school coaching that includes his family, Harvard career, the Wonderlic test, his business venture (action figures for athletes playing football, baseball, basketball), syndicated advice column, and AstroTurf vs grass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQtkIphDhGEReplies: @Steve Sailer
Pat McInally likes to talk about the lawsuit he won against Paul McCartney.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-domestic-violence-flap-lower-nfls-cromartie-index/Interesting character!
I remember a black actor taking horsemanship training from two seasoned white cowhands at a ranch in Chatsworth. They never let up on him and he never caved. They didn’t talk color. And they never gave him less than the best as he maneuvered in the corral. I hope that’s the standard here.
Meanwhile, Adolph Hitler is on the move…
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1478852313066483712?s=20
Wonderlic test = Dice-strewn lot.
I’m surprised there’s any connection between them. I did a quick search, but I couldn’t easily find anything on the lawsuit. I was about to give up, but I found this post from you in 2014:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-domestic-violence-flap-lower-nfls-cromartie-index/
Interesting character!
Or maybe this is about burying the evidence.Replies: @EdwardM, @Mark Roulo
Remember they did that, and blacks’ scores (before and after) were so low that they didn’t know if they were affected by the sport or were just dumb. As a result, blacks were under-diagnosed with football-caused mental deterioration and lost out on some of that sweet compensation. As a result, they stopped using the post-playing test and the result will of course be more wealth distribution from whites to blacks as everyone gets paid.
I wonder if some teams (e.g., New England) will use the test on their own to create competitive advantage over those that don’t?
That said, I would guess that this year's squad may be his blackest team.Replies: @Unladen Swallow
The NFL just announced that teams that act inappropriately with prospects during the combine will be subject to fines and loss of draft picks
Stupid but physically gifted QBs don't cut it or if they do, for a short period of time untill defensive schemes and injuries quickly overtake them. It's hard to find a less phyically gifted QB than Brady.
All that said, the black NFL average IQ is slightly over 100, so the game is complicated and demanding. The one thing NFL coaches cannot stand is slack. The Patriots a few years ago had a practice squad running back promoted due to a running back injury and he immediately gained 200 yards, was late for the next practice, and cut.Replies: @ScarletNumber
They also benched Malcolm Butler for Super Bowl LI, only two years after the game-winning interception in Super Bowl XLIX.
The Patriots barely lost that SB against Philly; Malcolm Butler might have made the difference.
Well Florio hit all of the correct talking points, so he will get to keep his job. However, I disagree with Steve’s ultimate point. I don’t think the public has an ultimate right to anyone’s Wonderlic score, and if teams can’t keep them secure, then they should go.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2020-combine.htm
However, these guys aren't random school kids, they have decided to make a career as professional athlete--making big $$$--and in the process agree to their capabilities and behavior both accessed by employers and observed and commented upon by fans. Don't like that tradeoff--get a different job.
Anyway, WRT hypocrisy, of course those of high SES who spout woke stuff would, never in a million years, actually live in the ghetto or send their kids to an inner city public school. You may have seen the recent NYTimes article which described elite urban white libs consistently showing, via their actions, that they don't really believe lofty woke rhetoric about racial harmony and uplift, but rather, are aloof and stingy. How far will Woke whites go to prove that they really are the good whites? Well, as we've seen so far the preferred solution is to destroy less woke whites rather than actually live in accordance with principles of harmony and equality (all those who have or aspire to have high SES are obsessed with proving their superiority these days, so much for believing in equality).
Generally speaking, as test stakes rise, prep and cheating increases but the rank order of the results stays the same, only with wider gaps. Smart people are better at prep and cheating than dumb people.
Meaningless, I tell you. Meaningless. Mean-ing-less!
I’d be more interested in putting non-football-player celebrities through the NFL combine.
I´d have guessed that´s the salient point so I´d expected them to increase
testing – are they doing away with it so´s not to discriminate against those
who were stoopid from the beginning?
I took me one o’ dem Wonderlics.
Got cut ’cause my sco’ came out under 6.
“Y’all dumb!” dey tell us,
But white guys just jealous
’Cause dey got six inches and under d***s.
Steve, Calvin Johnson’s (41 wonderlic) highest catch total was 122. Michael Thomas (w.s n/a) has the most in a season, 149. Johnsons yards record is in reach of Kupp (37 wl).
I would think team meetings and practices quickly reveal which players have the capacity to learn and execute the playbook and those that do not. I suppose that with the size of an NFL roster a screening test might be somewhat useful, but when it comes to the draft it seems like there is still an awful lot of guesswork about how players might pan out in the league.
Loved all the Key & Peele clips. They often parody black culture and yet Jordan Peele is sort of ultra woke anyway…both of them are mixed race, and from Hannah Jones on down, it seems like that’s the type that really goes all in on racial justice due to some sort of insecurity about their identity.
LOL. Yeah, that’s the consensus among dumb people, anyway.
I guess the “rich people” excuse regarding the same thing wouldn’t work among that demographic.
Life’s a lot like a poker game. The winners just lean back and smile and stack their chips up higher, and the losers swear and spit on the floor and slam their cards on the table.
I’d still rather head into a near-blizzard in a gas powered car.
OTOH, in an electric I’d more likely have an arctic sleeping bag with plenty of energy food. And plenty of Joe Biden underwear.
The troopers were unable to call the cell phone company and triangulate the fellow’s rough position between towers?
Seems odd.
How many of you know how to access the GPS coordinates of your cellphone? It may come in handy some day.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Yeah, he was great. Of course, to me he will always be a Yellow Jacket stuck with the worst QB in the conference, Reggie Ball.
We Know Exactly Who the Capitol Rioters Were
A year later, a fuller picture of who really drove the riot is clear. The lessons for 2022 and beyond are sobering.https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/01/january-6-capitol-riot-arrests-research-profile.html
Yeah, I mean what kind of loser would think that the Whites are being replaced? That's crazy talk!https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-census-data-shows-the-nation-is-diversifying-even-faster-than-predicted/Replies: @bomag
Yet another example where the race-doesn’t-matter crowd gleefully does such counting and categorizing.
Never stopped you before.Replies: @Truth, @Ben tillman
You’re underrating him. As I’ve said before, he bats a steady .286, just like Vada Pinson.
But I'll take that, with the 4 or 5 Unz all-star games I've played in.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
These self-hating white clowns are so pathetic, I wonder if they invest in knee pads.Replies: @ic1000
NBC’s Mike Florio has written an article to the standards of Woke Pravda and the Idiocracy Times. Does he know? I assume he’s proud of his output, but who can say.
Yeah but he lobbed up that softball. I had to take a swing.
At a certain point, even if you’re aware of the propaganda being false, if you’re rewarded enough for following it and observing punishment for not, and if you’re bombarded with it enough — well, you start to love Big Brother.
Ok, so will the NFL now abandon the 40yd dash and vertical jump test since that favors black players?
Any tests where blacks outperform whites are ok while any tests where whites outperform blacks are evil, racist and “unreliable” and gets the axe.
Funny: a late ex-girlfriend of mine used to call that effect “f***head.”
The top score is 50 so how did they get over 100? Retard
https://pumpkinperson.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/wonderlic.pngReplies: @AndrewR
Sorry, Joe, but this season is THREE games longer to us oldtimers!
I wonder if some teams (e.g., New England) will use the test on their own to create competitive advantage over those that don't?Replies: @Brutusale
I think that Bill Belichick already has a pretty good idea of who the brighter players are. 😉
That said, I would guess that this year’s squad may be his blackest team.
The only guarantee in life is, sooner or later, death.
(Q: Why does life suck in Current Year America?)
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1478852313066483712?s=20Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
Re: Adolf Hitler Uunona
This dude should be President of Namibia one day. He certainly can’t be worse than any of the clowns or criminals who now hold high office in the US.
But his name might work against him. I mean, how in the hell do you pronounce Uunona? (That’s a name I’d love to see Brandon or “Dr.” Brandon try to pronounce.)
At one point they were trying to calculate CTE damage based on how many IQ points a player had lost. So they were effectively telling black players: “You don’t have CTE, you just weren’t that smart to begin with.” That went over about as well as you would expect.
Classic leftist robo-writing:
“… despite Trump’s false claims of election irregularities, which are false because I just said so… And hey, if they were true, surely you would have read about them in this newspaper or the Democrats would have convened a special commission to look into the matter.”
The scores are “irrelevant” to what? They may not be a foolproof predictor of success in the NFL, but what’s the harm in screening for functional retards? I think we all know the answer to this.
Sure, you can cheat up front, then do a legit test post-career and then sue the league for your Dain Bramage. I can see why the league might not want pre-draft testing.
If data are inconvenient, just get rid of the data and make data-collection illegal.
We will just be left with our own lying eyes in our (limited) individual lives.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @res
Agreed.
And lots of “anecdote is not data” being shouted at us.
Useful rule of thumb. Whoever is hiding the data is lying.
That’s a reasonable point. Though I’m not sure how different the Wonderlic results are in that respect from all of the physical data made public as part of the draft combine.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2020-combine.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-dH7oLrcBQ
At Institute for Advanced Study, former institution of Einstein, Gödel, von Neumann, amongst many other luminaries.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Alfa158, @fish
Troofy…..if you must always fly the flag this is where you oughta be hoisting it!
https://twitter.com/TheWizardsQuest/status/1478539091365044225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1478539091365044225%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdirectorblue.blogspot.com%2FReplies: @Wade Hampton, @Buffalo Joe, @possumman, @AnotherDad
I understand that they burn well and for a long time so there is that
Context man…..context.
How many scientists would pass the standard Marines physicals?
One time, while going up a SF hill at the tail-end of my daily, middle-distance run, I deliberately throttled-up my sort of bell lap kick, in order to blow past a small group of Marine exercisers-runners. Each one was about half my age.
I got PO’d when I saw them snickering at some old guy — twice my age — ahead of me, who they had just passed on the same hill.
Or maybe this is about burying the evidence.Replies: @EdwardM, @Mark Roulo
“Instead of eliminating the IQ test at the beginning of their careers, shouldn’t they add an IQ test at the end, in order to measure the brain damage?”
There is an incentives problem here. If I can take a test at the end of my career and the worse I do on the test the more money I get paid, then, um …
“All”.
https://www.boardvitals.com/blog/nfl-players-turned-doctors/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Doornink (See also)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_White
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaine_Nye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Dawkins
Many such cases.
leacherreport.com/articles/609895-2011-nfl-draft-10-worst-wonderlic-scores-in-combine-history
The issue is not spotting the morons. Spotting the morons during interviews is racist, to safely spot the moron you need an independent objective source.
Fortunately, all independent objective sources are irrelevant.
Cue Jimmy Buffett singing Mañana, withpeople freezin’ up in Buffalo stuck in their cars and I’m lyin’ here ‘neath the sun and the stars.
Stay safe, Joe.
I have never heard a good explanation for the benching of MB. He only won the Super Bowl against the Seahawks with his goal line interception. Probably only Bill B knows.
The Patriots barely lost that SB against Philly; Malcolm Butler might have made the difference.
Old America going out of business…
Everything must go!
Loved all the Key & Peele clips. They often parody black culture and yet Jordan Peele is sort of ultra woke anyway...both of them are mixed race, and from Hannah Jones on down, it seems like that's the type that really goes all in on racial justice due to some sort of insecurity about their identity.Replies: @Mark Roulo, @Johann Ricke
Which is (one reason) why the NFL doesn’t administer the wonderlic to players already in the league.
But the teams would like to avoid situations where they just signed some rookie to a multi-million dollar contract and then discover that he can’t learn or execute the playbook.
My best guess is that the teams just spend a bit more time talking to the college coaches. The college coaches should be incentivized to tell the truth because the coaching world is small and reputation matters.
I actually think this is pretty reasonable. Having to publish your IQ test results on the internet is a bit much.
Eliminate the perverse incentive by setting a player’s maximum share of settlement dollars to his highest two scores, reduced by his difference-weighted, lowest score. But I think it’s just US tort system baloney that allows a player to collect in the first place. If you want to avoid CTE, then consider another line of work, e.g. the PGA tour.
Any tests where blacks outperform whites are ok while any tests where whites outperform blacks are evil, racist and "unreliable" and gets the axe.Replies: @silviosilver
And “meaningless.”
Vada’s a good comparison, he’s not just a -smidge- beneath hall-of-famer, he’s a -smidge- beneath the guys who are a -smidge- beneath hall-of-famer.
But I’ll take that, with the 4 or 5 Unz all-star games I’ve played in.
Vada Pinson was an extremely accomplished professional baseball player. In 1988 he received a 15% vote for the Hall of Fame which was his highest total. Also it is recorded he took a swing at a baseball writer who suggested he could get on base more if he took more bunts (in pitchers' era a lot of guys bunted for hits all the time like Matty Alou and Lou Brock and Maury Wills). That couldn't possibly have added to his Hall of Fame vote totals.Replies: @Steve Sailer
The public does not have any right to their times in the 40 either. (I don’t reveal mine either. Though i can tell you if my neighbor encourages me with say a cold beer on his patio, i can be under a minute getting over there.)
However, these guys aren’t random school kids, they have decided to make a career as professional athlete–making big \$\$\$–and in the process agree to their capabilities and behavior both accessed by employers and observed and commented upon by fans. Don’t like that tradeoff–get a different job.
https://twitter.com/TheWizardsQuest/status/1478539091365044225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1478539091365044225%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdirectorblue.blogspot.com%2FReplies: @Wade Hampton, @Buffalo Joe, @possumman, @AnotherDad
A tiny bit of thought here:
Is there some reason to suspect that an electric car is comparatively worse at turning its battery energy into heat, than a gasoline car? Seems pretty clear to me it is comparatively better, much better. Electric resistance heating is very efficient–the energy loss pretty much *is* the heat. In contrast, idling your gasoline engine, enough to heat the coolant and getting–some–heat transfer from that hot coolant into your car is actually piss poor.
My rough estimate would be at idle you can run your engine for an hour on a gallon. So if you have say 10 gallons left in the tank when stranded you have 10 heater hours, which of course you can stretch to last a couple days.
Much less informed about electrics–no experience with one–but i’d venture that if there’s a couple hundred miles of battery charge left–while that is much less actual energy content than the 10 gallons of gas–that is sufficient to run your much more efficient electric heater a pretty darn long time, probably longer than the car.
~~
My overall take: look at the weather and stay home!
As in most areas,
1) There’s a floor, after which other factors start to weigh more heavily.
2) Everything else being equal, the smarter prospect is a better bet.
I think getting rid the cognitive test for NFL Draft is different than the case for college admission:
For the former, the selection mechanism won’t really be affected, since the importance of cognitive skills weighs far less, Hall of Famers Marino/Kelly/Bradshaw each had Wonderlics around 15. Dumb teams will still shell out huge cash to top draft picks that turn into busts. While Belichick makes an art of finding the most talent to fit under salary cap, despite of not having top draft picks.
For the latter, the selection mechanism was not working as intended by TPTB, so the SAT is discarded.
I say college admission should include SAT, 40-yard dash, and benchpress.
Seems odd.Replies: @Technite78
If it was a smartphone, he should have been able to give his potential rescuers a GPS position accurate to a roughly 30 foot radius circle (or better, depending on satellite visibility). OTOH, I know of someone who became lost on a desert trail with a smartphone that was out of cellular voice range, but still had text messaging service. They texted for help, but didn’t know how to send GPS coordinates, and the rescue took much longer than necessary.
How many of you know how to access the GPS coordinates of your cellphone? It may come in handy some day.
How many of you know how to access the GPS coordinates of your cellphone? It may come in handy some day.Replies: @Steve Sailer
How do you find your GPS coordinates on an Android phone?
https://www.alphr.com/find-gps-coordinates-android/
https://physics-toolbox-suite.en.uptodown.com/android
Has cool stuff like an oscilloscope, frequency counter, spectrum analyzer as well your GPS coordinates.
GREAT FUN for your science oriented kids.
Guarantied!Replies: @Brutusale
I haven’t owned an Android phone, so I can’t say for sure…
I’d imagine any of the direction-finding applications (i.e. Google Maps) have the ability to show you your current GPS position… the default “Maps” app and Google Maps on the iPhone do this by tapping on your current location in the map.
Additionally, there would likely be a few free apps that access the phone’s built-in compass, accelerometer, and GPS receiver and display their status.
Google Maps is probably the easiest commonly available way.
https://www.alphr.com/find-gps-coordinates-android/
You need to test for impulse control as well, so you’re not dealing with a lot of PR disasters associated with players indicted for rape, murder, dogfighting, etc. There’s a decent correlation between IQ and impulse control, so if you get a player with a decent Wonderlic score it lowers the odds the team will one day have to issue a press release distancing the organization from a player indicted for violent crimes.
That was the point Colin Cowherd made in a monologue I happened to catch on sportstalk radio once. I bet he reads iSteve.
Also, football at the pro level is complicated in other ways. Players winging it on on intuitive spatial awareness thru high school and college will have a hard time. At the pro level, everybody’s got exquisite spatial awareness. You also need pattern recognition and memorization and strategic thinking. You also need good social skills, like nerdy guys like Eli and Payton Manning motivating their bigger, stronger teammates to fight like hell for them. Apparently everyone on the Pats hated Aaron Rodriguez and the normally sharp Bill Belichik should have seen that coming, starting with the gang tats.
I’m guessing teams will find other ways to test for impulse control and weed out violent dumbasses.
That said, I would guess that this year's squad may be his blackest team.Replies: @Unladen Swallow
Not at the QB position anymore, the rookie Mac Jones replaced Cam Newton, who is busy reminding Carolina why they cut him in the first place.
Loved all the Key & Peele clips. They often parody black culture and yet Jordan Peele is sort of ultra woke anyway...both of them are mixed race, and from Hannah Jones on down, it seems like that's the type that really goes all in on racial justice due to some sort of insecurity about their identity.Replies: @Mark Roulo, @Johann Ricke
Or perhaps to not just further entrench, but enhance their caste privileges. Wouldn’t it be nice if they became heavy hitters to the extent that that they can personally dictate policy and become the equivalent of billionaire plutocrats? Never underestimate the lure of personal advantage in getting people to clamber onto ideological wagons. Don’t think of them as ideologies so much as buses for people to gain power, prestige and personal perks.
But I'll take that, with the 4 or 5 Unz all-star games I've played in.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
2757 career hits; 256 career home runs; starting center fielder.
Vada Pinson was an extremely accomplished professional baseball player. In 1988 he received a 15% vote for the Hall of Fame which was his highest total. Also it is recorded he took a swing at a baseball writer who suggested he could get on base more if he took more bunts (in pitchers’ era a lot of guys bunted for hits all the time like Matty Alou and Lou Brock and Maury Wills). That couldn’t possibly have added to his Hall of Fame vote totals.
That was the point Colin Cowherd made in a monologue I happened to catch on sportstalk radio once. I bet he reads iSteve.
Also, football at the pro level is complicated in other ways. Players winging it on on intuitive spatial awareness thru high school and college will have a hard time. At the pro level, everybody's got exquisite spatial awareness. You also need pattern recognition and memorization and strategic thinking. You also need good social skills, like nerdy guys like Eli and Payton Manning motivating their bigger, stronger teammates to fight like hell for them. Apparently everyone on the Pats hated Aaron Rodriguez and the normally sharp Bill Belichik should have seen that coming, starting with the gang tats.
I'm guessing teams will find other ways to test for impulse control and weed out violent dumbasses.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Feryl
Teams not the Las Vegas Raiders, probably. The guy they cut for posting a video of himself with drug-dealer-style pistol threatening a law-abiding Las Vegas citizen was a known knucklehead when they drafted him in the first round. Great 40 yard dash time, though.
Back in the day Pro Football Talk ran a police blotter called the “turd watch”. Then the site was bought by NBC and the police blotter vanished. No surprise, since you could count on warrants being issued/arrests being made pretty often.
Anyway, WRT hypocrisy, of course those of high SES who spout woke stuff would, never in a million years, actually live in the ghetto or send their kids to an inner city public school. You may have seen the recent NYTimes article which described elite urban white libs consistently showing, via their actions, that they don’t really believe lofty woke rhetoric about racial harmony and uplift, but rather, are aloof and stingy. How far will Woke whites go to prove that they really are the good whites? Well, as we’ve seen so far the preferred solution is to destroy less woke whites rather than actually live in accordance with principles of harmony and equality (all those who have or aspire to have high SES are obsessed with proving their superiority these days, so much for believing in equality).
That was the point Colin Cowherd made in a monologue I happened to catch on sportstalk radio once. I bet he reads iSteve.
Also, football at the pro level is complicated in other ways. Players winging it on on intuitive spatial awareness thru high school and college will have a hard time. At the pro level, everybody's got exquisite spatial awareness. You also need pattern recognition and memorization and strategic thinking. You also need good social skills, like nerdy guys like Eli and Payton Manning motivating their bigger, stronger teammates to fight like hell for them. Apparently everyone on the Pats hated Aaron Rodriguez and the normally sharp Bill Belichik should have seen that coming, starting with the gang tats.
I'm guessing teams will find other ways to test for impulse control and weed out violent dumbasses.Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard, @Feryl
Many of those close to Hernandez thought he was a latent or closeted homosexual. His last girlfriend (maybe fiance?) said he was irritable around her and showed her little physical affection. A musclebound psycho with repressed gayness what could go wrong.?
https://i.imgur.com/EWDK4BR.jpgReplies: @Feryl
Vada Pinson was an extremely accomplished professional baseball player. In 1988 he received a 15% vote for the Hall of Fame which was his highest total. Also it is recorded he took a swing at a baseball writer who suggested he could get on base more if he took more bunts (in pitchers' era a lot of guys bunted for hits all the time like Matty Alou and Lou Brock and Maury Wills). That couldn't possibly have added to his Hall of Fame vote totals.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Bill James says that Vada Pinson was actually two years older than his official listed birthdate, so his career shouldn’t seem disappointing, as it struck many after his spectacular early years. His peak seasons weren’t actually ages 20, 22, 24, and 26, but in truth a more normal 22, 24, 26, and 28, and he played all the way thru age 38.
And when the Pitcher’s Era ended in 1969, he wasn’t 30 but was 32, so it’s not surprising he didn’t turn back into a .300 hitter.
So, a terrific career, one just a little short of the Hall of Fame.
Also, negroes. Oh, and TPTB.
(Q: Why does life suck in Current Year America?)
She looked like a dead-eyed savage in her own right:
The compass app on my iPhone gives the coordinates at the bottom of the screen: no tapping necessary.
Yeh. Or maybe they won’t.
Try the “Physics Toolbox Sensor Suite” on your Play Store for a free download.
https://physics-toolbox-suite.en.uptodown.com/android
Has cool stuff like an oscilloscope, frequency counter, spectrum analyzer as well your GPS coordinates.
GREAT FUN for your science oriented kids.
Guarantied!
Wonderlic scores run 1-50. The article gives Cooper-Kupp 132, and somebody else 140. What’s up?
He used a Wonderlic to IQ conversion table. Calvin Johnson scored a 40 and Cooper Kupp scored a 37. Those convert to 140 and 132, respectively. Retard.
See my reply to AndrewR.
https://pumpkinperson.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/wonderlic.pngReplies: @AndrewR
Hope sailer sees this
https://i.imgur.com/EWDK4BR.jpgReplies: @Feryl
Looks like he chose his girlfriend (beard, really) because she could help him intimidate people. Why do women let themselves get used as beards? Well, if the provider can provide lots of money, I guess it’s ok to be in a cynical relationship (some beards also have said that they did have basically a platonic friendship with the gay dudes they’re hitched to).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ed_Koch,_Bess_Myerson,_and_Henry_Kissinger_at_Stephen_S._Wise_Award_Dinner_(8451054025).jpg
Why? It’s not like there’s anything shameful in that Steve went to the extra step of converting the Wonderlic scores into the IQ scale which most of his readers would be more familiar with. If anything, he was doing Calvin Johnson, who is black, a service by highlighting just how impressive his score was. You’re the one who needed to see it for assuming Steve somehow didn’t know the Wonderlic was scored on a 0-50 scale. Of course he knew that. You’re the retard for smugly thinking you had gotcha’d him.
Check out Steve’s column from 3/30/18 entitled “Wonderlic IQ Scores for NFL QB Prospects”. This column shows that not only is Steve well aware that the top score on the Wonderlic is 50, he didn’t even need an outside table to convert the Wonderlic scores into their IQ equivalents. The conversion formula is very simple.
A very famous such couple (allegedly) with their friend Henry K.:
https://physics-toolbox-suite.en.uptodown.com/android
Has cool stuff like an oscilloscope, frequency counter, spectrum analyzer as well your GPS coordinates.
GREAT FUN for your science oriented kids.
Guarantied!Replies: @Brutusale
Thanks, Joe. I’ve been playing with the damned app all afternoon!