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From Newsweek:

GRETA THUNBERG SNUBBED FOR NOBEL PEACE PRIZE BY COMMITTEE RUN BY NORWAY, ONE OF THE WORLD’S BIGGEST OIL AND NATURAL GAS EXPORTERS

BY ROSIE MCCALL ON 10/11/19 AT 5:59 AM EDT

The Nobel Committee has surprised oddsmakers by not picking 16-year-old Greta Thunberg to win the 2019 Nobel Peace Prize.

The five-member Norwegian panel instead announced on Friday that Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed had won the award, “for his efforts to achieve peace and international cooperation, and for in particular his decisive initiative to resolve the border conflict with neighboring Eritrea,” a statement said.

The Nobel Peace Prize is not necessarily an accurate prognosticator of who will turn out to be a Good Guy in the fullness of time. But there has been some good news coming out of Ethiopia since this guy, Abiy Ahmed, came to power, such as making peace with Eritrea and letting a bunch of political prisoners out of jail. He had to survive a coup attempt a few months ago. It’s not unreasonable for the Nordics to give this guy a boost.

Ethiopia and Eritrea are hybrids of sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East. They have more capability for inter-state war than most sub-Saharan countries. The War Nerd was impressed by the scale and mechanization of Ethiopian-Eritrean desert battles. In 2002 he wrote:

In the Horn [ofAfrica], war is normal and comes all sizes from family stabbings, to clan vs. clan war like Somalia, to total war between nation-states.

Which is what the Eritrea-Ethiopia war is. This is definitely not your typical African bush war — the kind you see in Sierra Leone or Liberia, with gangs sneaking around attacking villages, avoiding combat, carrying nothing bigger than your basic irregular-warfare kit of AK’s and RPG’s, specializing in rape and mutilation.

The Ethiopian-Eritrean war is more like the Franco-Prussian War, or even the Western Front in 1914. These are two countries fully supplied with the best of mid-20th-c. Soviet weaponry, and smart enough to keep it running. And use it. And boy, have they used it! They’ve had Verduns, Stalingrads, Marnes down there — and nobody even notices!

But a little World War I goes a long way, in my view, so it’s time for peace.

From the Wikipedia article on the Ethiopian prime minister:

His deceased father, Ahmed Ali, was a Muslim Oromo (and had four wives, while his deceased mother, Tezeta Wolde, was an Orthodox Christian Amhara.

If I have this straight, the Oromo are a black group and the Amhara are a brown group with links to Yemen in Asia. The Amhara see themselves as descended from the son of the Queen of Sheba in the OT.

Abiy is the 13th child of his polygamous father and the sixth and youngest child of his mother. His childhood name was Abiyot (English: “Revolution”). The name was sometimes given to children in the aftermath of the Derg revolution of 1974.

He met and married his wife, Zinash Tayachew, an Amhara woman from Gondar, while both were serving in the Ethiopian Defense Forces. They are the parents of three daughters and one recently adopted son. Abiy is multilingual and speaks Afaan Oromo, Amharic, Tigrinya, and English…. Abiy is a devout Evangelical Pentecostal Christian of the Full Gospel Believers’ Church.

So he speaks the three main ethnic groups’ languages, and is a Christian but his dad was a Muslim.

 
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  1. Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Bill

    Newsweek stopped printing paper versions for a while when their newsstands sales dropped to around 50,000 per issue. I think they have resumed paper sales of a thin almost advertisement free run. There is no shortage of Malibu Marxists who will pour money into losing enterprises in order to have a piece of the megaphone. The deranged dogmatic tone of this story is pretty standard.
    Many of these magazines will continue to mail issues to subscribers even after the subscription lapses, and they are also used to stock waiting room magazine racks.

    Replies: @Bill

    , @swami_cuckenstein
    @Bill

    Don't under estimate the reach of legacy media. I bet the readership tends to vote more than average.

    , @Romanian
    @Bill

    Newsweek actually launched in Romania, too, a few months ago. So, they are expanding. I do not know if it is a franchise thing.

    , @Realist
    @Bill


    Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?
     
    OMG LOL excellent.
    , @William Badwhite
    @Bill

    Rosie McCall is a colossus in "journalism". Other articles by Rosie McCall:

    "Teacher placed on leave after racist rant with parent in school parking lot" and "Florida woman had parts of feet amputated after cut during salon pedicure"

    For those of you that don't know, FloridaWoman is the sidekick of the super hero FloridaMan.

    If you're wondering if its okay to laugh at FloridaMan, the BezosPo advises:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/15/feature/is-it-okay-to-laugh-at-florida-man-2/

  2. Nice to see a Nobel Peace Prize actually awarded as a Nobel
    Peace Prize instead of a Nobel “Whoever Best Represents Progressives’ Cause of the Day” Prize.

    • Agree: Ash Williams, S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @George
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Heffermehl has marked himself as a staunch critic of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which, according to Heffermehl, has failed to comply with the will of Alfred Nobel,[4] thereby making several awards —juridically illegal.

    Although many laureates have done "commendable work", Heffermehl stresses that this is not good enough to receive a prize whose criteria explicitly pertain to disarmament and peace work.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredrik_Heffermehl#Nobel_Peace_Prize_criticism

  3. So a black or half African/half Arab full POC Muslim wins the NPP and progressives are pissed because Alma Autism didn’t win it with her Tourette’s episode at the UN?

    I guess Becky still has it!

    • LOL: Liza
    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Half Muslim -- is mom was Orthodox Christian. Like the Greeks. And the Serbs. And the Russians.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Art Deco, @MikeatMikedotMike

    , @Kolya Krassotkin
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Thunberg reminds me of Verruca Salt from "Charle and the Chocolate Factory."

    If she wants another shot at the NPP, she'll first have to self-identify as a spirited woman of color trapped in the body of a privileged autistic Swede.

    , @cynthia curran
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Good point. Greta is no great prize either. Actually in this case the African might be preferred.

  4. These are two countries fully supplied with the best of mid-20th-c. Soviet weaponry, and smart enough to keep it running. And use it. And boy, have they used it!

    They even had their own navies and cavalries!

  5. Does Peace Prize have any merit, esp after Obama got one for… nothing?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous


    Does Peace Prize have any merit, esp after Obama got one for… nothing?
     
    Pish-Posh! Obama finally brough peace and racial harmony to the 57 American States. Hallelujah, America's 150 year civil war was finally ended!
    , @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    Did the Peace Prize lose all meaning after Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho won? The latter refused his prize.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  6. He had to survive a coup attempt a few months ago.

    Nice, Trump is currently working on surviving his enemies’…second coup attempt I think, or maybe third. Hard to keep track.

  7. @Bill
    Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?

    Replies: @Alfa158, @swami_cuckenstein, @Romanian, @Realist, @William Badwhite

    Newsweek stopped printing paper versions for a while when their newsstands sales dropped to around 50,000 per issue. I think they have resumed paper sales of a thin almost advertisement free run. There is no shortage of Malibu Marxists who will pour money into losing enterprises in order to have a piece of the megaphone. The deranged dogmatic tone of this story is pretty standard.
    Many of these magazines will continue to mail issues to subscribers even after the subscription lapses, and they are also used to stock waiting room magazine racks.

    • Agree: jim jones, Charon
    • Replies: @Bill
    @Alfa158

    Yeah, I kept getting Reason for more than a decade after I stopped paying. I think the only reason I stopped getting it is that they lost track of me during a move.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  8. @MikeatMikedotMike
    So a black or half African/half Arab full POC Muslim wins the NPP and progressives are pissed because Alma Autism didn't win it with her Tourette's episode at the UN?

    I guess Becky still has it!

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Kolya Krassotkin, @cynthia curran

    Half Muslim — is mom was Orthodox Christian. Like the Greeks. And the Serbs. And the Russians.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Inquiring Mind

    Muslim men are free to marry non-Muslim woman, as long as they are acceptably monotheist. Not the other way around, though, man has to convert (if the woman isn't pious, it can be a strictly nominal conversion, but it must be done to make things legal and family-acceptable in most Muslim societies) to marry a Muslimah. That's a huge part of why in Malaysia and Indonesia, the ethnic Chinese haven't intermarried a lot like they did in Thailand and Vietnam. Not all of it, but the biggest reason.

    Looks like Ahmed went differently from both parents-evangelical Protestantism-but I'm guessing that his life experience has been useful in ruling a multiconfessional country where the overwhelming majority of people are still very religious on Western standards.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Bill P

    , @Art Deco
    @Inquiring Mind

    I think the Church in Ethiopia is non-Chalcedonian, so, not like the Greeks or the Serbs. Like the Copts and the Armenians.

    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Inquiring Mind

    My mistake - he is a Christian.

  9. Peace Prize nominations closed back in March, which was before Greta was widely known.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @prosa123

    But she was definitely a possibility yesterday:

    Who are the Nobel Peace Prize favorites and when will it be announced?: What you should know

    https://i.imgur.com/Zh2ndLQ.jpg

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

  10. Almost none of the reporting on Greta Thunberg and the Nobel Peace Prize seems to be aware of the fact that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Al Gore got the prize in 2007 for publicizing exactly the same cause that young Miss Thunberg is highlighting.

    And almost none of the reporting on Ethiopia and Eritrea’s wars has ever noted that fact that Ethiopia is a country with a population of 110 million, while Eritrea has a population of 5 million.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    @PiltdownMan

    Yes but in his acceptance speech Al threatened us with the news that the polar ice cap would be gone in 7 years and 2014 has come and gone. So that global warming missed. This is a brand new global warming.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @PiltdownMan


    Al Gore got the prize in 2007
     
    What a sick joke. How did he get there to pick up the prize?

    No US leader deserved a Nobel more than Herbert Hoover. Of course, he never got one.

    The Nobels are like the Oscars and other entertainment awards. The glittery ones in the news are more about politics than merit. The lesser-known ones reflect professional reputation, and actually mean something.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  11. So all the people bitching about the evils of white privilege are pissed that little Greta Thunberg didn’t get some white privilege? How perfect.

    BTW, here’s a great videoof a goodthink SJW white woman city council member in Oak Park, Illinois verbally attacking fellow council members because they’re white men.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Wilkey

    That's White women to a T. They figure they are honorary non White and hate hate hate hate White men.

    Replies: @Charon

  12. @PiltdownMan
    Almost none of the reporting on Greta Thunberg and the Nobel Peace Prize seems to be aware of the fact that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Al Gore got the prize in 2007 for publicizing exactly the same cause that young Miss Thunberg is highlighting.

    And almost none of the reporting on Ethiopia and Eritrea's wars has ever noted that fact that Ethiopia is a country with a population of 110 million, while Eritrea has a population of 5 million.

    Replies: @Ibound1, @Reg Cæsar

    Yes but in his acceptance speech Al threatened us with the news that the polar ice cap would be gone in 7 years and 2014 has come and gone. So that global warming missed. This is a brand new global warming.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Ibound1


    This is a brand new global warming.
     
    You're way behind my good man. Global warming (or cooling for that matter) is so yesterday. Its too limiting, the predictions have to come true.

    Its now "climate change", so they're right either way. If the temperature next year isn't exactly the same as this year, then that proves we need a giant multi-trillion dollar Rube Goldberg regulatory apparatus (that has no bearing on China and India) with some levers Al Gore (or maybe that bonkers 12-year old girl) can pull. Or something like that.
  13. Does anybody know anything more about Ethiopia and Ahmed? I’d like to hear from somebody who has experience with the place.

  14. @Inquiring Mind
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Half Muslim -- is mom was Orthodox Christian. Like the Greeks. And the Serbs. And the Russians.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Art Deco, @MikeatMikedotMike

    Muslim men are free to marry non-Muslim woman, as long as they are acceptably monotheist. Not the other way around, though, man has to convert (if the woman isn’t pious, it can be a strictly nominal conversion, but it must be done to make things legal and family-acceptable in most Muslim societies) to marry a Muslimah. That’s a huge part of why in Malaysia and Indonesia, the ethnic Chinese haven’t intermarried a lot like they did in Thailand and Vietnam. Not all of it, but the biggest reason.

    Looks like Ahmed went differently from both parents-evangelical Protestantism-but I’m guessing that his life experience has been useful in ruling a multiconfessional country where the overwhelming majority of people are still very religious on Western standards.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @nebulafox


    Muslim men are free to marry non-Muslim woman, as long as they are acceptably monotheist.
     
    Uh, it's pretty much assumed that the eager groom will eventually impose his ideology on his new bride and their offspring.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Bill P
    @nebulafox

    Pentecostal Christianity is massively popular south of the Tropic of Cancer. Interestingly, it is the product of a partnership between Charles Parham, a white American believer in British Israelism, and William Seymour, a charismatic black American preacher.

    In terms of practical religious psychology, Parham's idea of baptism with the Holy Spirit was a stroke of genius, and Seymour put it into practice with great success.

  15. I was honestly hoping they would split the Peace Prize between Greta and Trump. Just to see how many people could get mad at once.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin, Alden
  16. Ethiopia and Eritrea are hybrids of sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East.

    Perhpas that’s probably more true of Somalia, in the Horn of Africa, culturally speaking? It is somewhat true of Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia, and lie just across the Red Sea from Arabia.

    Ethiopia, with its ancient Christianity and absence of a real history of colonization, really is sui generis culturally and historically speaking, and phenotypically different (as Mr. Sailer has noted previously) from Sub-Saharan Africa.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @PiltdownMan


    Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia
     
    The Moslems have all the good beaches. The Christians are the hillbillies-- way-up-in-the-hills-billies. Imagine Sacramento just as close to the sea, but a couple thousand feet higher than Denver-- that's Asmara.

    Christians get all the good architecture, though, left them by the Italians.


    https://www.citymetric.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/article_2019/01/8352534406_04b65e939c_o.jpg?itok=ffmy6veK

    http://www.designindaba.com/sites/default/files/styles/scaledlarge/public/node/news/21607/gallery/eri-asmara-early-modernism-example-c2004.jpg?itok=3QYc16fi

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/cb/3c/a9cb3cc7a169275c4611a87178f782c7.jpg

    https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_962,c_fill/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160316101330-cinema-roma-crop.jpg

    https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_962,c_fill/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160316101453-odeon-crop.jpg

    Replies: @Charon, @Dumbo

    , @Dan Hayes
    @PiltdownMan

    PiltdownMan:

    Any chance the pictured lady is a byproduct of Mussolini's geopolitical misadventure?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Charon, @Andy

    , @Amerimutt Golems
    @PiltdownMan

    The browns are essentially just Arab rape babies.

    Regardless of phenotype, they and pure blacks are treated like untermensch and modern slaves in the Middle East.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG6bqgoTwts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHcC3qWKFZg

  17. @nebulafox
    @Inquiring Mind

    Muslim men are free to marry non-Muslim woman, as long as they are acceptably monotheist. Not the other way around, though, man has to convert (if the woman isn't pious, it can be a strictly nominal conversion, but it must be done to make things legal and family-acceptable in most Muslim societies) to marry a Muslimah. That's a huge part of why in Malaysia and Indonesia, the ethnic Chinese haven't intermarried a lot like they did in Thailand and Vietnam. Not all of it, but the biggest reason.

    Looks like Ahmed went differently from both parents-evangelical Protestantism-but I'm guessing that his life experience has been useful in ruling a multiconfessional country where the overwhelming majority of people are still very religious on Western standards.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Bill P

    Muslim men are free to marry non-Muslim woman, as long as they are acceptably monotheist.

    Uh, it’s pretty much assumed that the eager groom will eventually impose his ideology on his new bride and their offspring.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Naturally. It's assumed as a default to this day in more religiously conservative parts of the world that the child will inherit the father's religion if there is an inter-confessional marriage, and Islam operates on that.

    And for much of human history, that was a universal assumption. My grandfather had to get a legal notorization from the Vatican to marry my grandmother and had to agree that the kids would be raised Catholic.

    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @S. Anonyia

  18. I am not Ethiopian, but I lived there 6 years 1964 to 1970. Your story above is accurate to my knowledge.

    No wonder I read everything you write.

  19. @PiltdownMan

    Ethiopia and Eritrea are hybrids of sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East.
     
    Perhpas that's probably more true of Somalia, in the Horn of Africa, culturally speaking? It is somewhat true of Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia, and lie just across the Red Sea from Arabia.

    Ethiopia, with its ancient Christianity and absence of a real history of colonization, really is sui generis culturally and historically speaking, and phenotypically different (as Mr. Sailer has noted previously) from Sub-Saharan Africa.

    https://i.imgur.com/WI0Yq5Y.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/Ssb501f.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dan Hayes, @Amerimutt Golems

    Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia

    The Moslems have all the good beaches. The Christians are the hillbillies– way-up-in-the-hills-billies. Imagine Sacramento just as close to the sea, but a couple thousand feet higher than Denver– that’s Asmara.

    Christians get all the good architecture, though, left them by the Italians.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Didn't you post all these already?

    P.S. the country is a sht-hole.

    , @Dumbo
    @Reg Cæsar

    Wow. Nice examples of futurist / Art Deco style and amazing that they are still standing and apparently in good shape. Who said that the Italian never did anything for Ethiopia / Eritrea? I'm not the greatest fan of fascist architecture, but these, particularly the Cinema Impero, look nice.

  20. @PiltdownMan

    Ethiopia and Eritrea are hybrids of sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East.
     
    Perhpas that's probably more true of Somalia, in the Horn of Africa, culturally speaking? It is somewhat true of Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia, and lie just across the Red Sea from Arabia.

    Ethiopia, with its ancient Christianity and absence of a real history of colonization, really is sui generis culturally and historically speaking, and phenotypically different (as Mr. Sailer has noted previously) from Sub-Saharan Africa.

    https://i.imgur.com/WI0Yq5Y.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/Ssb501f.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dan Hayes, @Amerimutt Golems

    PiltdownMan:

    Any chance the pictured lady is a byproduct of Mussolini’s geopolitical misadventure?

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Dan Hayes

    Nah. Many younger Amhara women have those features, but for their hair and color of skin. It's a different type from the rest of Africa.

    , @Charon
    @Dan Hayes

    They are definitely the best-looking Ethiopians I've ever seen, and I've seen more than my share.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @EdwardM

    , @Andy
    @Dan Hayes

    Most languages in Ethiopia do not belong to the Bantu family of most African languages. The main languages, Amharic and Oromo (this, presumably the native language of Aby Ahmed) are Afroasiatic, the same family as Hebrew and Arabic. This linguistic evidence (along with recent genetic evidence) shows Ethiopians are clearly an ancient mixture of Black Africans and Middle Easterners.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  21. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @nebulafox


    Muslim men are free to marry non-Muslim woman, as long as they are acceptably monotheist.
     
    Uh, it's pretty much assumed that the eager groom will eventually impose his ideology on his new bride and their offspring.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Naturally. It’s assumed as a default to this day in more religiously conservative parts of the world that the child will inherit the father’s religion if there is an inter-confessional marriage, and Islam operates on that.

    And for much of human history, that was a universal assumption. My grandfather had to get a legal notorization from the Vatican to marry my grandmother and had to agree that the kids would be raised Catholic.

    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @nebulafox


    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.
     
    AFAIK Judaism-both the real version and the post -70 AD pharisaical one-is matrilineal but not matriarchical.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Redneck farmer
    @nebulafox

    In an era (most of human history) when raping enemy women is part of the troops compensation package, this isn't so strange a concept.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @nebulafox

    Not sure if this is true in modern American/European history. I was under the impression that religion was always thought of as the woman's domain, kind of an extension of the private sphere? I don't think men are historically that religious. Researching my family's history, I found a lot of Protestant men converting to Catholicism for their wives on my dad's side in the late 1800s/early 1900s, and there are a few instances of opposite scenario on my Mom's (Catholic men becoming Protestants for wives) but a few decades earlier than that. The woman's religion usually won out in South.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  22. @Wilkey
    So all the people bitching about the evils of white privilege are pissed that little Greta Thunberg didn't get some white privilege? How perfect.

    BTW, here's a great videoof a goodthink SJW white woman city council member in Oak Park, Illinois verbally attacking fellow council members because they're white men.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    That’s White women to a T. They figure they are honorary non White and hate hate hate hate White men.

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Whiskey

    They just watch too much television.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  23. @PiltdownMan
    Almost none of the reporting on Greta Thunberg and the Nobel Peace Prize seems to be aware of the fact that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Al Gore got the prize in 2007 for publicizing exactly the same cause that young Miss Thunberg is highlighting.

    And almost none of the reporting on Ethiopia and Eritrea's wars has ever noted that fact that Ethiopia is a country with a population of 110 million, while Eritrea has a population of 5 million.

    Replies: @Ibound1, @Reg Cæsar

    Al Gore got the prize in 2007

    What a sick joke. How did he get there to pick up the prize?

    No US leader deserved a Nobel more than Herbert Hoover. Of course, he never got one.

    The Nobels are like the Oscars and other entertainment awards. The glittery ones in the news are more about politics than merit. The lesser-known ones reflect professional reputation, and actually mean something.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar

    I'm sure the career staff scientists at the IPCC were probably a bit insulted to have to share the prize with Al Gore. Gore's great post Veep accomplishment was to get onto the board at Apple circa 2002, and receive all his director's compensation in the form of stock options. He's reportedly worth about $300 million now.

  24. Greta Thunberg slaps Abiy Ahmed silly in the Intersectionality Pokemon Points game.

    Female trumps Man.

    Minor trumps adult.

    On the spectrum trumps cool, calm, and cogent.

    Cute Scandinavian pigtails trumps goatee (eww).

    Humanity destroying global warming trumps silly male engineered regional wars and squabbles.

    Borderless concerns about humanity trumps disputes about borders (which are an anachronism, anyway.)

    • Replies: @Charon
    @PiltdownMan

    African trumps all that.

  25. Ethiopia is a confederation of ethnic states and the place is at real risk of breaking apart into different countries. The Somalis in the Ogaden (the Somali state) do not want to be ruled by Ethiopia, and Abiy’s rule has been most appreciated by the Somalis and the Oromo and resented by at least one other of the major groups (I’m unclear on the details.) The Somali secessionists have been appeased by Abiy but if Somalia gets itself together the ideology of “Somaliweyn” will undoubtedly reemerge and that region will want to leave like Eriteria.

    ps this is what happened when China tried to dig oil in the Ogaden:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/apr/25/ethiopia

  26. @Dan Hayes
    @PiltdownMan

    PiltdownMan:

    Any chance the pictured lady is a byproduct of Mussolini's geopolitical misadventure?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Charon, @Andy

    Nah. Many younger Amhara women have those features, but for their hair and color of skin. It’s a different type from the rest of Africa.

  27. Oromo are a black group and the Amhara are a brown group with links to Yemen in Asia

    Oromo and Amhara are about equally “brown”. The word Ethiopians use for themselves — abesha (whence Abyssinia) — means “mixed” in old Amharic (a Semitic language), and the country has the air of the Biblical Middle East in an African setting. Only in the lowlands of western Ethiopia does one find really black people, with facials scars and lip disks.

  28. @Reg Cæsar
    @PiltdownMan


    Al Gore got the prize in 2007
     
    What a sick joke. How did he get there to pick up the prize?

    No US leader deserved a Nobel more than Herbert Hoover. Of course, he never got one.

    The Nobels are like the Oscars and other entertainment awards. The glittery ones in the news are more about politics than merit. The lesser-known ones reflect professional reputation, and actually mean something.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    I’m sure the career staff scientists at the IPCC were probably a bit insulted to have to share the prize with Al Gore. Gore’s great post Veep accomplishment was to get onto the board at Apple circa 2002, and receive all his director’s compensation in the form of stock options. He’s reportedly worth about $300 million now.

    • Agree: jim jones
  29. @nebulafox
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Naturally. It's assumed as a default to this day in more religiously conservative parts of the world that the child will inherit the father's religion if there is an inter-confessional marriage, and Islam operates on that.

    And for much of human history, that was a universal assumption. My grandfather had to get a legal notorization from the Vatican to marry my grandmother and had to agree that the kids would be raised Catholic.

    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @S. Anonyia

    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.

    AFAIK Judaism-both the real version and the post -70 AD pharisaical one-is matrilineal but not matriarchical.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Then I guess you don't know much. Jewish men are simpering, neurotic momma's boys and their wives nag them to the death and repeat the cycle.

  30. @Bill
    Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?

    Replies: @Alfa158, @swami_cuckenstein, @Romanian, @Realist, @William Badwhite

    Don’t under estimate the reach of legacy media. I bet the readership tends to vote more than average.

  31. BY ROSIE MCCALL

    Normally I save the anagrams for alien names with alien minds, but here, the African is clearly the sanest.

    Rosie McCall =

    Racism cello.
    Local crimes.
    Collars mice.

    Claim closer.

    Abiy Ahmed = Maybe I had…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe it's a pen name for Miss Rosalie McFall:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQofDIYOYK0

    Go Jerry and Brent!

  32. @Dan Hayes
    @PiltdownMan

    PiltdownMan:

    Any chance the pictured lady is a byproduct of Mussolini's geopolitical misadventure?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Charon, @Andy

    They are definitely the best-looking Ethiopians I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen more than my share.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Charon

    Charon:

    The reason I posed my question is that an Ethiopian colleague alerted me to the fact that some Italians remained in Ethiopia with very handsome byproducts!

    Replies: @Herzog

    , @EdwardM
    @Charon

    There are a lot of pretty Ethiopian women, though I didn't see any in Addis Ababa, or in the Washington, DC area (there is a sort of Little Ethiopia in northern VA, and there also seems to something approximating that in Las Vegas).

    In Dubai, yes, including among the Emirates Airline staff. Like many hellholes, the country seems to suffer from a face drain as well as a brain drain, if my small sample size is any indication.

  33. @PiltdownMan
    Greta Thunberg slaps Abiy Ahmed silly in the Intersectionality Pokemon Points game.

    Female trumps Man.

    Minor trumps adult.

    On the spectrum trumps cool, calm, and cogent.

    Cute Scandinavian pigtails trumps goatee (eww).

    Humanity destroying global warming trumps silly male engineered regional wars and squabbles.

    Borderless concerns about humanity trumps disputes about borders (which are an anachronism, anyway.)

    Replies: @Charon

    African trumps all that.

    • Agree: Lurker
  34. @Anonymous
    @nebulafox


    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.
     
    AFAIK Judaism-both the real version and the post -70 AD pharisaical one-is matrilineal but not matriarchical.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Then I guess you don’t know much. Jewish men are simpering, neurotic momma’s boys and their wives nag them to the death and repeat the cycle.

  35. No mention yet of the headline’s agenda?

    GRETA THUNBERG SNUBBED FOR NOBEL PEACE PRIZE BY COMMITTEE RUN BY NORWAY, ONE OF THE WORLD’S BIGGEST OIL AND NATURAL GAS EXPORTERS

    There’s no subtlety by Miss McCall in this one. I just read the article, and most of the story is on the energy economy of Norway, the 15th largest oil producer and 3rd largest exporter of natural gas. Even though the country is going all green in lots of ways described by the author, she is pissed that Norway is still producing all that stuff. She’s going for the supply side.

    Even so, she never wrote anything in the article to back up her implication that the Nobel Prize award was influenced by the energy industry. Maybe people just think Miss Pippi Longstocking is a spoiled, deluded, angry child … plus she’s white, so you know, you’ve got to strive for that diversity in all things.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Achmed E. Newman

    But, you know....


    Thunberg has become the figurehead of the youth climate movement after skipping school to protest outside the Swedish Parliament in August 2018, inspiring the waves of student strikes that followed.

    Over the last year, she has (among other things) led a Global Climate Strike spanning 150 countries, graced the cover of Time Magazine as a 'Next Generation Leader' and sailed across the Atlantic Ocean in a yacht to speak to lawmakers in Washington and New York.
     

    Who has done more to fight Climate Change?

    More like


    got sailed across the Atlantic Ocean in a top-of-the-line yacht to harangue powerless worthies in Washington and New York
     
    The sailing part must have been fun. Good for her, maybe she will take up competitive sailing?

    Meanwhile, WHY in God's Nuclear Name are European Nuclear Power Constructions such unmitigated disasters? (They are even supplied substandard parts by crooked Japanese; is there a hex on them?)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_(nuclear_reactor)#Flamanville_3_(France)

  36. @Reg Cæsar
    @PiltdownMan


    Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia
     
    The Moslems have all the good beaches. The Christians are the hillbillies-- way-up-in-the-hills-billies. Imagine Sacramento just as close to the sea, but a couple thousand feet higher than Denver-- that's Asmara.

    Christians get all the good architecture, though, left them by the Italians.


    https://www.citymetric.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/article_2019/01/8352534406_04b65e939c_o.jpg?itok=ffmy6veK

    http://www.designindaba.com/sites/default/files/styles/scaledlarge/public/node/news/21607/gallery/eri-asmara-early-modernism-example-c2004.jpg?itok=3QYc16fi

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/cb/3c/a9cb3cc7a169275c4611a87178f782c7.jpg

    https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_962,c_fill/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160316101330-cinema-roma-crop.jpg

    https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_962,c_fill/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160316101453-odeon-crop.jpg

    Replies: @Charon, @Dumbo

    Didn’t you post all these already?

    P.S. the country is a sht-hole.

  37. @Dan Hayes
    @PiltdownMan

    PiltdownMan:

    Any chance the pictured lady is a byproduct of Mussolini's geopolitical misadventure?

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @Charon, @Andy

    Most languages in Ethiopia do not belong to the Bantu family of most African languages. The main languages, Amharic and Oromo (this, presumably the native language of Aby Ahmed) are Afroasiatic, the same family as Hebrew and Arabic. This linguistic evidence (along with recent genetic evidence) shows Ethiopians are clearly an ancient mixture of Black Africans and Middle Easterners.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Andy

    The linguistic jumble that is Ethiopia, and its origins, are covered in the first third of Paul Jorgensen's LangFocus episode on Amharic. Anyone familiar with Hebrew or Arabic might find the details in the rest of it fascinating.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4jjEawqaMkE

    Replies: @Andy

  38. @Whiskey
    @Wilkey

    That's White women to a T. They figure they are honorary non White and hate hate hate hate White men.

    Replies: @Charon

    They just watch too much television.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Charon


    They just watch too much television.
     
    Hey! Steve's neighbors in Studio City have to eat!
  39. This was probably a hard one to denounce by the left media. Yes, you have this heavily promoted Greta, telling us all the message that we are a decade away from the end of the world, but she’s very white, and on the other side you have a black muslim man…who has more pokemon points?

  40. @Reg Cæsar

    BY ROSIE MCCALL
     
    Normally I save the anagrams for alien names with alien minds, but here, the African is clearly the sanest.


    Rosie McCall =


    Racism cello.
    Local crimes.
    Collars mice.


    Claim closer.

    Abiy Ahmed = Maybe I had...

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Maybe it’s a pen name for Miss Rosalie McFall:

    Go Jerry and Brent!

  41. @Anonymous
    Does Peace Prize have any merit, esp after Obama got one for... nothing?

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Paleo Liberal

    Does Peace Prize have any merit, esp after Obama got one for… nothing?

    Pish-Posh! Obama finally brough peace and racial harmony to the 57 American States. Hallelujah, America’s 150 year civil war was finally ended!

  42. @Charon
    @Dan Hayes

    They are definitely the best-looking Ethiopians I've ever seen, and I've seen more than my share.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @EdwardM

    Charon:

    The reason I posed my question is that an Ethiopian colleague alerted me to the fact that some Italians remained in Ethiopia with very handsome byproducts!

    • Replies: @Herzog
    @Dan Hayes

    I once read that the Italians in Eritrea (where they had a run of 40+ years, much longer than in Ethiopia), when asked by their countrymen back home what they hunted there -- Hemingway days, remember -- used to answer whistfully: Anche gli elefanti ...

    Se non è vero, è ben trovato (if it's not true, it's a nice anecdoe), I guess.

    Having said this, Ethio-Eritrean womanhood certainly wasn't in need of Italian genetic admixture to produce many, many suberb beauties. If you come from one of our Western landwhale countries, a stay in Ethiopia is quite an experience, all the more so because traditional feminine charm and even virtues are also still cultivated and appreciated there.

    Whores and bar girls are an entirely different ball game, of course.

  43. It’s interesting that you can get a peace prize for trying to end your own border conflict with a smaller country.

    It’s like: “I could have punched you in the face some more. But I stopped. So how about giving me that Peace Prize for my restraint.”

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Hypnotoad666

    Since none of the Eritreans actually wants to live in Eritrea, and none of the Ethiopians wants to live in either Ethiopia OR Eritrea, and they ALL want to come live here, one is at a loss to figure out what exactly they've been fighting over. Did one country cut ahead of the other in the line at the airport, while trying to catch a flight to Europe or America or Australia?

    , @Art Deco
    @Hypnotoad666

    The Peace Prize has been humbug from the beginning. The winners for the first generation were generally Scandinavian public nuisance organizations. Others have included Linus Pauling (for one or another of his goofball enthusiasms), "International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War" (whose co-chairman had been part of the official harassment of Andrei Sakharov), and Rigoberto Menchu (Guatemalan communist and biographical fabulist). Fun fact: when Martin Luther King Jr went to pick up his prize in 1964, his entourage thought to celebrate by hiring a mess of Norwegian prostitutes. Bayard Rustin arrived back at their hotel after an evening of trolling around Oslo and had to talk a police officer out of arresting the lot of them. (This vignette was first reported by Taylor Branch, IIRC).

    Replies: @El Dato

  44. Why do we care what this Nobel committee does? They awarded the Peace Prize to Barack Obama just for being elected president of the US. He responded by bombing Libya into rubble.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Bill H

    The only thing Obama did that I thought cool was the way he took the Nobel Prize and then gave the committee a royal FU by cheerfully continuing on with the bombing and droning. The only thing that came close was when Kissinger and Le Doc Tho were jointly awarded the Peace Prize for the Vietnam Peace agreement . Le declined his half because he knew the agreement was a sham.

  45. @Hypnotoad666
    It's interesting that you can get a peace prize for trying to end your own border conflict with a smaller country.

    It's like: "I could have punched you in the face some more. But I stopped. So how about giving me that Peace Prize for my restraint."

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Art Deco

    Since none of the Eritreans actually wants to live in Eritrea, and none of the Ethiopians wants to live in either Ethiopia OR Eritrea, and they ALL want to come live here, one is at a loss to figure out what exactly they’ve been fighting over. Did one country cut ahead of the other in the line at the airport, while trying to catch a flight to Europe or America or Australia?

  46. wasn’t newsweek sold for a buck a couple of years ago? Why should anyone care?

  47. Greta humor from the Netherlands, I think.

    • LOL: Old Prude
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @George

    No that's from Belgium.

    That accent when speaking french is unmistakable.

  48. @Bill H
    Why do we care what this Nobel committee does? They awarded the Peace Prize to Barack Obama just for being elected president of the US. He responded by bombing Libya into rubble.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    The only thing Obama did that I thought cool was the way he took the Nobel Prize and then gave the committee a royal FU by cheerfully continuing on with the bombing and droning. The only thing that came close was when Kissinger and Le Doc Tho were jointly awarded the Peace Prize for the Vietnam Peace agreement . Le declined his half because he knew the agreement was a sham.

  49. @Andy
    @Dan Hayes

    Most languages in Ethiopia do not belong to the Bantu family of most African languages. The main languages, Amharic and Oromo (this, presumably the native language of Aby Ahmed) are Afroasiatic, the same family as Hebrew and Arabic. This linguistic evidence (along with recent genetic evidence) shows Ethiopians are clearly an ancient mixture of Black Africans and Middle Easterners.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The linguistic jumble that is Ethiopia, and its origins, are covered in the first third of Paul Jorgensen’s LangFocus episode on Amharic. Anyone familiar with Hebrew or Arabic might find the details in the rest of it fascinating.

    • Replies: @Andy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yes, I follow Langfocus, a very interesting channel

  50. @Charon
    @Whiskey

    They just watch too much television.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    They just watch too much television.

    Hey! Steve’s neighbors in Studio City have to eat!

  51. @nebulafox
    @Inquiring Mind

    Muslim men are free to marry non-Muslim woman, as long as they are acceptably monotheist. Not the other way around, though, man has to convert (if the woman isn't pious, it can be a strictly nominal conversion, but it must be done to make things legal and family-acceptable in most Muslim societies) to marry a Muslimah. That's a huge part of why in Malaysia and Indonesia, the ethnic Chinese haven't intermarried a lot like they did in Thailand and Vietnam. Not all of it, but the biggest reason.

    Looks like Ahmed went differently from both parents-evangelical Protestantism-but I'm guessing that his life experience has been useful in ruling a multiconfessional country where the overwhelming majority of people are still very religious on Western standards.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Bill P

    Pentecostal Christianity is massively popular south of the Tropic of Cancer. Interestingly, it is the product of a partnership between Charles Parham, a white American believer in British Israelism, and William Seymour, a charismatic black American preacher.

    In terms of practical religious psychology, Parham’s idea of baptism with the Holy Spirit was a stroke of genius, and Seymour put it into practice with great success.

  52. @nebulafox
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Naturally. It's assumed as a default to this day in more religiously conservative parts of the world that the child will inherit the father's religion if there is an inter-confessional marriage, and Islam operates on that.

    And for much of human history, that was a universal assumption. My grandfather had to get a legal notorization from the Vatican to marry my grandmother and had to agree that the kids would be raised Catholic.

    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @S. Anonyia

    In an era (most of human history) when raping enemy women is part of the troops compensation package, this isn’t so strange a concept.

  53. @prosa123
    Peace Prize nominations closed back in March, which was before Greta was widely known.

    Replies: @El Dato

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    @El Dato

    With her silly scowl Thunberg would make a great replacement for Alfred E. Neumann.

    A new icon for disaffected youth. Bitter, hectoring and rip-roaringly funny though she's not trying to be.

  54. @Achmed E. Newman
    No mention yet of the headline's agenda?

    GRETA THUNBERG SNUBBED FOR NOBEL PEACE PRIZE BY COMMITTEE RUN BY NORWAY, ONE OF THE WORLD’S BIGGEST OIL AND NATURAL GAS EXPORTERS
     
    There's no subtlety by Miss McCall in this one. I just read the article, and most of the story is on the energy economy of Norway, the 15th largest oil producer and 3rd largest exporter of natural gas. Even though the country is going all green in lots of ways described by the author, she is pissed that Norway is still producing all that stuff. She's going for the supply side.

    Even so, she never wrote anything in the article to back up her implication that the Nobel Prize award was influenced by the energy industry. Maybe people just think Miss Pippi Longstocking is a spoiled, deluded, angry child ... plus she's white, so you know, you've got to strive for that diversity in all things.

    Replies: @El Dato

    But, you know….

    Thunberg has become the figurehead of the youth climate movement after skipping school to protest outside the Swedish Parliament in August 2018, inspiring the waves of student strikes that followed.

    Over the last year, she has (among other things) led a Global Climate Strike spanning 150 countries, graced the cover of Time Magazine as a ‘Next Generation Leader’ and sailed across the Atlantic Ocean in a yacht to speak to lawmakers in Washington and New York.

    Who has done more to fight Climate Change?

    More like

    got sailed across the Atlantic Ocean in a top-of-the-line yacht to harangue powerless worthies in Washington and New York

    The sailing part must have been fun. Good for her, maybe she will take up competitive sailing?

    Meanwhile, WHY in God’s Nuclear Name are European Nuclear Power Constructions such unmitigated disasters? (They are even supplied substandard parts by crooked Japanese; is there a hex on them?)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_(nuclear_reactor)#Flamanville_3_(France)

  55. @Inquiring Mind
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Half Muslim -- is mom was Orthodox Christian. Like the Greeks. And the Serbs. And the Russians.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Art Deco, @MikeatMikedotMike

    I think the Church in Ethiopia is non-Chalcedonian, so, not like the Greeks or the Serbs. Like the Copts and the Armenians.

  56. @Hypnotoad666
    It's interesting that you can get a peace prize for trying to end your own border conflict with a smaller country.

    It's like: "I could have punched you in the face some more. But I stopped. So how about giving me that Peace Prize for my restraint."

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Art Deco

    The Peace Prize has been humbug from the beginning. The winners for the first generation were generally Scandinavian public nuisance organizations. Others have included Linus Pauling (for one or another of his goofball enthusiasms), “International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War” (whose co-chairman had been part of the official harassment of Andrei Sakharov), and Rigoberto Menchu (Guatemalan communist and biographical fabulist). Fun fact: when Martin Luther King Jr went to pick up his prize in 1964, his entourage thought to celebrate by hiring a mess of Norwegian prostitutes. Bayard Rustin arrived back at their hotel after an evening of trolling around Oslo and had to talk a police officer out of arresting the lot of them. (This vignette was first reported by Taylor Branch, IIRC).

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Art Deco


    when Martin Luther King Jr went to pick up his prize in 1964, his entourage thought to celebrate by hiring a mess of Norwegian prostitutes
     
    "What out-Vikings the Vikings? BLACK Vikings!"
  57. @Art Deco
    @Hypnotoad666

    The Peace Prize has been humbug from the beginning. The winners for the first generation were generally Scandinavian public nuisance organizations. Others have included Linus Pauling (for one or another of his goofball enthusiasms), "International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War" (whose co-chairman had been part of the official harassment of Andrei Sakharov), and Rigoberto Menchu (Guatemalan communist and biographical fabulist). Fun fact: when Martin Luther King Jr went to pick up his prize in 1964, his entourage thought to celebrate by hiring a mess of Norwegian prostitutes. Bayard Rustin arrived back at their hotel after an evening of trolling around Oslo and had to talk a police officer out of arresting the lot of them. (This vignette was first reported by Taylor Branch, IIRC).

    Replies: @El Dato

    when Martin Luther King Jr went to pick up his prize in 1964, his entourage thought to celebrate by hiring a mess of Norwegian prostitutes

    “What out-Vikings the Vikings? BLACK Vikings!”

  58. Dear Nobel Committee:

    • LOL: jim jones, Lot, sayless
    • Replies: @Lot
    @eah

    So viral memeworthy.

    Hope those of you with social media spread it, has under 100 likes now, but is better than 90% of Trump retweet jokes.

    Did that random German stoner guy create it?

  59. It’s way too soon to be giving the prize to Thunberg. She might yet go rogue, i.e. have an epiphany about non-white immigration and African over-population only contributing to environmental destruction. Of course, if she did come to that opinion, the media would ensure that people would barely remember her name a year from now.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @eah
    @Rob McX

    If it wasn't "way too soon" to give it to Obama, it's not "way too soon" to give it to Greta Thunberg.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    , @cynthia curran
    @Rob McX

    I don't know about that. Bernie said the africans need birth control and abortion and didn't get into trouble. Greta Thunberg can say people with aspergers are more minoties than blacks since there are less of them in the world.

  60. @Inquiring Mind
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Half Muslim -- is mom was Orthodox Christian. Like the Greeks. And the Serbs. And the Russians.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Art Deco, @MikeatMikedotMike

    My mistake – he is a Christian.

  61. Amazing year in Hurricanes and Typhoons just keeps on trucking

  62. The Amhara see themselves as descended from the son of the Queen of Sheba in the OT.

    Interesting. When I was in school and we studied the bible, I was told that they were the descendants of Ham, son of Noah, and that their name meant something along the lines of ‘people of Ham’. A quick check over at Wikipedia indicates that this is no longer the favored theory, although I was able to confirm that their language, Amharic, is indeed a Semitic language more closely related to Hebrew and Arabic than to some of the other languages of modern Ethiopia.

  63. @Rob McX
    It's way too soon to be giving the prize to Thunberg. She might yet go rogue, i.e. have an epiphany about non-white immigration and African over-population only contributing to environmental destruction. Of course, if she did come to that opinion, the media would ensure that people would barely remember her name a year from now.

    Replies: @eah, @cynthia curran

    If it wasn’t “way too soon” to give it to Obama, it’s not “way too soon” to give it to Greta Thunberg.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @eah

    Was it way too soon for Obama?

    He kept McCain out of the White House, thus preventing a war with:

    Iraq
    Syria
    A bunch of other countries

  64. Had she won and not the Ethiopian man, Newsweek would have ran an article about the SCANDINAVIAN WHITE Nobel committee fixing it for the SCANDINAVIAN WHITE candidate.

    Oil production would not have been mentioned.

    Life is easy on the Left, almost anything can be twisted to suit almost any agenda, the only requirement is that you shout loudly and continuously.

    • Agree: Dtbb, Lurker
  65. @PiltdownMan

    Ethiopia and Eritrea are hybrids of sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East.
     
    Perhpas that's probably more true of Somalia, in the Horn of Africa, culturally speaking? It is somewhat true of Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia, and lie just across the Red Sea from Arabia.

    Ethiopia, with its ancient Christianity and absence of a real history of colonization, really is sui generis culturally and historically speaking, and phenotypically different (as Mr. Sailer has noted previously) from Sub-Saharan Africa.

    https://i.imgur.com/WI0Yq5Y.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/Ssb501f.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dan Hayes, @Amerimutt Golems

    The browns are essentially just Arab rape babies.

    Regardless of phenotype, they and pure blacks are treated like untermensch and modern slaves in the Middle East.

  66. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Nice to see a Nobel Peace Prize actually awarded as a Nobel
    Peace Prize instead of a Nobel “Whoever Best Represents Progressives’ Cause of the Day” Prize.

    Replies: @George

    Heffermehl has marked himself as a staunch critic of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which, according to Heffermehl, has failed to comply with the will of Alfred Nobel,[4] thereby making several awards —juridically illegal.

    Although many laureates have done “commendable work”, Heffermehl stresses that this is not good enough to receive a prize whose criteria explicitly pertain to disarmament and peace work.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredrik_Heffermehl#Nobel_Peace_Prize_criticism

  67. @Bill
    Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?

    Replies: @Alfa158, @swami_cuckenstein, @Romanian, @Realist, @William Badwhite

    Newsweek actually launched in Romania, too, a few months ago. So, they are expanding. I do not know if it is a franchise thing.

  68. Back in the 90’s my bass player was Ethiopian. We used to play Ethiopian weddings in Los Angeles and the food was awesome (doro wat eaten with injera being my favorite). The stand up comedians would tell jokes in Amharic. Real estate, cars and jewelry were used instead of cattle for the bride’s dowry.

  69. @Dan Hayes
    @Charon

    Charon:

    The reason I posed my question is that an Ethiopian colleague alerted me to the fact that some Italians remained in Ethiopia with very handsome byproducts!

    Replies: @Herzog

    I once read that the Italians in Eritrea (where they had a run of 40+ years, much longer than in Ethiopia), when asked by their countrymen back home what they hunted there — Hemingway days, remember — used to answer whistfully: Anche gli elefanti …

    Se non è vero, è ben trovato (if it’s not true, it’s a nice anecdoe), I guess.

    Having said this, Ethio-Eritrean womanhood certainly wasn’t in need of Italian genetic admixture to produce many, many suberb beauties. If you come from one of our Western landwhale countries, a stay in Ethiopia is quite an experience, all the more so because traditional feminine charm and even virtues are also still cultivated and appreciated there.

    Whores and bar girls are an entirely different ball game, of course.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  70. From Gondar you say? I would not be surprised if he were to find a Palantir or two and a white tree somewhere. Now if he would only name the capital Minas Tirith.

  71. Newsweek: Child’s Rightful Nobel Peace Prize Was Corruptly Given Instead to an African Leader Who Merely, You Know, Made Peace

    I agree, the shithead from Sweden should have won the prize…in keeping with the tradition of awarding dumbassery.

  72. @Bill
    Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?

    Replies: @Alfa158, @swami_cuckenstein, @Romanian, @Realist, @William Badwhite

    Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?

    OMG LOL excellent.

  73. @Ibound1
    @PiltdownMan

    Yes but in his acceptance speech Al threatened us with the news that the polar ice cap would be gone in 7 years and 2014 has come and gone. So that global warming missed. This is a brand new global warming.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    This is a brand new global warming.

    You’re way behind my good man. Global warming (or cooling for that matter) is so yesterday. Its too limiting, the predictions have to come true.

    Its now “climate change”, so they’re right either way. If the temperature next year isn’t exactly the same as this year, then that proves we need a giant multi-trillion dollar Rube Goldberg regulatory apparatus (that has no bearing on China and India) with some levers Al Gore (or maybe that bonkers 12-year old girl) can pull. Or something like that.

  74. When told of the Nobel Commitee’s decision, Thunberg held her breath until she turned blue and passed out.

  75. Gee, the Lame Stream Media is usually All About giving stuff to “people of color” instead of us plain ol’ white people. In this case, choosing between the two seems clear cut: this guy did something to stop bloodshed while the white brat just whined in front of the UN.

  76. @Bill
    Newsweek still exists? Does Time still exist, too? How? On auto-renew subscriptions for the senile?

    Replies: @Alfa158, @swami_cuckenstein, @Romanian, @Realist, @William Badwhite

    Rosie McCall is a colossus in “journalism”. Other articles by Rosie McCall:

    “Teacher placed on leave after racist rant with parent in school parking lot” and “Florida woman had parts of feet amputated after cut during salon pedicure”

    For those of you that don’t know, FloridaWoman is the sidekick of the super hero FloridaMan.

    If you’re wondering if its okay to laugh at FloridaMan, the BezosPo advises:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/15/feature/is-it-okay-to-laugh-at-florida-man-2/

  77. @Alfa158
    @Bill

    Newsweek stopped printing paper versions for a while when their newsstands sales dropped to around 50,000 per issue. I think they have resumed paper sales of a thin almost advertisement free run. There is no shortage of Malibu Marxists who will pour money into losing enterprises in order to have a piece of the megaphone. The deranged dogmatic tone of this story is pretty standard.
    Many of these magazines will continue to mail issues to subscribers even after the subscription lapses, and they are also used to stock waiting room magazine racks.

    Replies: @Bill

    Yeah, I kept getting Reason for more than a decade after I stopped paying. I think the only reason I stopped getting it is that they lost track of me during a move.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bill

    By contrast, Liberty, the two color non glossy magazine all real libtys read religiously was very strict with wanting to get paid.

  78. @MikeatMikedotMike
    So a black or half African/half Arab full POC Muslim wins the NPP and progressives are pissed because Alma Autism didn't win it with her Tourette's episode at the UN?

    I guess Becky still has it!

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Kolya Krassotkin, @cynthia curran

    Thunberg reminds me of Verruca Salt from “Charle and the Chocolate Factory.”

    If she wants another shot at the NPP, she’ll first have to self-identify as a spirited woman of color trapped in the body of a privileged autistic Swede.

  79. Anonymous[726] • Disclaimer says:

    Ethiopia is an interesting place. Its state tradition reaches back to the kingdom of Aksum, which grew to encompass much of Yemen as well. It was an urban trading civilization not unlike, say, Carthage. Aksum converted to Christianity in the fourth century and by then it was recognized as one of the Great Powers of the day by chroniclers in Constantinople. Its unique architectural style is reflected in stone funeral stele for the kings, very large obelisks carved from single pieces of stone. They are sui generis.

    The Aksumite empire was shattered by Muslim attacks in the seventh and eighth centuries, and the Aksumites basically headed for the (more defensible) hills. In many ways, their civilization went backward. But the state tradition managed to persist, even though they were now living in grass huts rather than stone cities.

    What’s interesting about all that is that the Aksumite experience seems to mirror Henri Pirenne’s thesis about the fall of Roman urban civilization (which had persisted in the Gothic kingdoms after the fall of Rome). Civilization in the West went backward after Islamic onslaughts cut off trade and Islamic piracy made coastal areas too perilous for habitation. Roman civilization had been centered on the Mediterranean. Now, Western medieval civilization would be focused on the Frankish empire in the (more defensible) northern forests. The Franks were “hillbillies,” like the Ethiopians.

  80. @Reg Cæsar
    @PiltdownMan


    Eritrea, which is more Muslim than Ethiopia
     
    The Moslems have all the good beaches. The Christians are the hillbillies-- way-up-in-the-hills-billies. Imagine Sacramento just as close to the sea, but a couple thousand feet higher than Denver-- that's Asmara.

    Christians get all the good architecture, though, left them by the Italians.


    https://www.citymetric.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/article_2019/01/8352534406_04b65e939c_o.jpg?itok=ffmy6veK

    http://www.designindaba.com/sites/default/files/styles/scaledlarge/public/node/news/21607/gallery/eri-asmara-early-modernism-example-c2004.jpg?itok=3QYc16fi

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/cb/3c/a9cb3cc7a169275c4611a87178f782c7.jpg

    https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_962,c_fill/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160316101330-cinema-roma-crop.jpg

    https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_962,c_fill/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160316101453-odeon-crop.jpg

    Replies: @Charon, @Dumbo

    Wow. Nice examples of futurist / Art Deco style and amazing that they are still standing and apparently in good shape. Who said that the Italian never did anything for Ethiopia / Eritrea? I’m not the greatest fan of fascist architecture, but these, particularly the Cinema Impero, look nice.

  81. [Ahmed] speaks the three main ethnic groups’ languages, and is a Christian but his dad was a Muslim.

    Plus, he married a fair daughter of Gondor.

    He met and married his wife, Zinash Tayachew, an Amhara woman from Gondar …

    He will be a great king for his people. He should use his Nobel to influence the Rohirrim into accepting an alliance.

  82. @eah
    Dear Nobel Committee:

    https://twitter.com/outofvalhalla/status/1180502944875196416

    Replies: @Lot

    So viral memeworthy.

    Hope those of you with social media spread it, has under 100 likes now, but is better than 90% of Trump retweet jokes.

    Did that random German stoner guy create it?

  83. @Reg Cæsar
    @Andy

    The linguistic jumble that is Ethiopia, and its origins, are covered in the first third of Paul Jorgensen's LangFocus episode on Amharic. Anyone familiar with Hebrew or Arabic might find the details in the rest of it fascinating.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4jjEawqaMkE

    Replies: @Andy

    Yes, I follow Langfocus, a very interesting channel

  84. @nebulafox
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Naturally. It's assumed as a default to this day in more religiously conservative parts of the world that the child will inherit the father's religion if there is an inter-confessional marriage, and Islam operates on that.

    And for much of human history, that was a universal assumption. My grandfather had to get a legal notorization from the Vatican to marry my grandmother and had to agree that the kids would be raised Catholic.

    Interestingly, Judaism twists everything on its head: it revolves around the mother, not the father.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @S. Anonyia

    Not sure if this is true in modern American/European history. I was under the impression that religion was always thought of as the woman’s domain, kind of an extension of the private sphere? I don’t think men are historically that religious. Researching my family’s history, I found a lot of Protestant men converting to Catholicism for their wives on my dad’s side in the late 1800s/early 1900s, and there are a few instances of opposite scenario on my Mom’s (Catholic men becoming Protestants for wives) but a few decades earlier than that. The woman’s religion usually won out in South.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @S. Anonyia

    My experience with religion is that women tend to take religion more seriously than men in terms of belief and day-to-day life. Men are more likely to view religion-even unconsciously-as a matter of social order and ritual. That might not be exclusively it, but it is usually unmistakably there as a factor unless we are talking about social outliers.

    If we look at this way, it would make sense that many conservative religions would try to preempt social control by a man with a different religion by insisting on conversion or at least forfeiting the rights over religious education. The man is not only the one that needs to be preempted: he's more likely to agree for the sake of marrying the woman than the other way around, assuming a conservative society where everybody is "pious" on European standards. This sort of thing is easily misunderstood. I've known Muslim guys who genuinely did not consider themselves pious in the context of their native societies, but then they moved to the West and all of a sudden had to come to terms with the fact that they were viewed as religious by our standards, because they didn't eat pork or drink alcohol.

  85. I’m sorry, but where does it say blacks are inferior in this article? You skipped something. You’re going to get a demerit. Or get your pay docked or something.

  86. @George
    Greta humor from the Netherlands, I think.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec-pF2IeqKw

    Replies: @El Dato

    No that’s from Belgium.

    That accent when speaking french is unmistakable.

  87. Did the Nobel Committee just set up a Propaganda Stooge award? If so Slightly Off Greta is a shoo-in.

    Otherwise, she will be just another embarrassed young woman in a few years, when she realizes how she has been used and discarded. But don’t worry Greta, Denmark will still be plenty cold, wet and gloomy for your dire forebodings. Only no one will be listening anymore…

  88. @MikeatMikedotMike
    So a black or half African/half Arab full POC Muslim wins the NPP and progressives are pissed because Alma Autism didn't win it with her Tourette's episode at the UN?

    I guess Becky still has it!

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @Kolya Krassotkin, @cynthia curran

    Good point. Greta is no great prize either. Actually in this case the African might be preferred.

  89. @Anonymous
    Does Peace Prize have any merit, esp after Obama got one for... nothing?

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Paleo Liberal

    Did the Peace Prize lose all meaning after Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho won? The latter refused his prize.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Paleo Liberal

    The latter represented a nation that had 13 divisions in the territories of its neighbors and committed atrocities from sunrise to sundown. I admire Tho's blunt willingness to state reality in typical steely, hyper-realistic Vietnamese fashion, but from a moral standpoint, it really was no less galling than Kissinger getting one.

    As for Henry: if the Nobel Committee wanted to give him one so badly, why not for the shuttle diplomacy later that year in the Middle East? That was actually, I dunno, somewhat peace involved.

    >Was it way too soon for Obama?

    Yes. Obama himself seemed to view it as awkward.

  90. @Rob McX
    It's way too soon to be giving the prize to Thunberg. She might yet go rogue, i.e. have an epiphany about non-white immigration and African over-population only contributing to environmental destruction. Of course, if she did come to that opinion, the media would ensure that people would barely remember her name a year from now.

    Replies: @eah, @cynthia curran

    I don’t know about that. Bernie said the africans need birth control and abortion and didn’t get into trouble. Greta Thunberg can say people with aspergers are more minoties than blacks since there are less of them in the world.

  91. @eah
    @Rob McX

    If it wasn't "way too soon" to give it to Obama, it's not "way too soon" to give it to Greta Thunberg.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    Was it way too soon for Obama?

    He kept McCain out of the White House, thus preventing a war with:

    Iraq
    Syria
    A bunch of other countries

  92. @El Dato
    @prosa123

    But she was definitely a possibility yesterday:

    Who are the Nobel Peace Prize favorites and when will it be announced?: What you should know

    https://i.imgur.com/Zh2ndLQ.jpg

    Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin

    With her silly scowl Thunberg would make a great replacement for Alfred E. Neumann.

    A new icon for disaffected youth. Bitter, hectoring and rip-roaringly funny though she’s not trying to be.

  93. @Bill
    @Alfa158

    Yeah, I kept getting Reason for more than a decade after I stopped paying. I think the only reason I stopped getting it is that they lost track of me during a move.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    By contrast, Liberty, the two color non glossy magazine all real libtys read religiously was very strict with wanting to get paid.

  94. We do realize, I hope, that we’re talking about this chick as author:

    https://www.iflscience.com/team/rosie-mccall/

    https://muckrack.com/rosie-mccall

    I doubt she could point to Ethiopia on a map.

  95. @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    Did the Peace Prize lose all meaning after Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho won? The latter refused his prize.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    The latter represented a nation that had 13 divisions in the territories of its neighbors and committed atrocities from sunrise to sundown. I admire Tho’s blunt willingness to state reality in typical steely, hyper-realistic Vietnamese fashion, but from a moral standpoint, it really was no less galling than Kissinger getting one.

    As for Henry: if the Nobel Committee wanted to give him one so badly, why not for the shuttle diplomacy later that year in the Middle East? That was actually, I dunno, somewhat peace involved.

    >Was it way too soon for Obama?

    Yes. Obama himself seemed to view it as awkward.

  96. @S. Anonyia
    @nebulafox

    Not sure if this is true in modern American/European history. I was under the impression that religion was always thought of as the woman's domain, kind of an extension of the private sphere? I don't think men are historically that religious. Researching my family's history, I found a lot of Protestant men converting to Catholicism for their wives on my dad's side in the late 1800s/early 1900s, and there are a few instances of opposite scenario on my Mom's (Catholic men becoming Protestants for wives) but a few decades earlier than that. The woman's religion usually won out in South.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    My experience with religion is that women tend to take religion more seriously than men in terms of belief and day-to-day life. Men are more likely to view religion-even unconsciously-as a matter of social order and ritual. That might not be exclusively it, but it is usually unmistakably there as a factor unless we are talking about social outliers.

    If we look at this way, it would make sense that many conservative religions would try to preempt social control by a man with a different religion by insisting on conversion or at least forfeiting the rights over religious education. The man is not only the one that needs to be preempted: he’s more likely to agree for the sake of marrying the woman than the other way around, assuming a conservative society where everybody is “pious” on European standards. This sort of thing is easily misunderstood. I’ve known Muslim guys who genuinely did not consider themselves pious in the context of their native societies, but then they moved to the West and all of a sudden had to come to terms with the fact that they were viewed as religious by our standards, because they didn’t eat pork or drink alcohol.

  97. +1000 for reference to the redoubtable G Brecher. When someone points out that the IRA got their way by ‘Nerf Terrorism’ and by the end of the piece you’re nodding in agreement… that guy’s a keeper.

    War Nerd, William Lind, and John Robb have been around for decades; nobody has any excuse for ignorance of their stuff, which tells you that governments are doomed because their OODA loop is all retarded and they talk like fags.

  98. I had an Ethiopian coworker when this peace deal was announced. A female Java developer who told me she won the immigration lottery while in Ethiopian grad school. She says practically everyone in the country signs up for the lottery just in case. She really deserved to be here, though — she could find a solution on Stack Overflow every bit as fast as me, and pick the same one I would.

    She was extremely joyful at the news, and said all the Ethiopians at her church felt the same. (An Amharic-language Christian church near Washington, DC — lots of Ethiopian restaurants there as well.) Many Ethiopians had family ties across the Ethiopia-Eritrea border. With the restoration of phone service, my coworker’s mother in Addis Ababa was able to talk to her grandmother for the first time in 18 years.

    Abiy also signed a trade pact with Eritrea a few months back, and has managed to keep their leader from coming back asking for more concessions. And he survived an attempt on his life from some hard-liners. So I’d say he deserves the prize, and maybe pro-peace Ethiopians can point to it to calm others down.

  99. She’s raring to eat some babies for being snubbed.

  100. In Istael, you are automatically recognized as a Jew if your mother is a Jew, but father not so much, if your mother is not. And the “normal” practice among Orthodox Jews, if their son or daughter becomes a Christian, is to hold a funeral and declare him dead. (I’ve known two such cases, though some parents “cheat”.)

  101. @Charon
    @Dan Hayes

    They are definitely the best-looking Ethiopians I've ever seen, and I've seen more than my share.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @EdwardM

    There are a lot of pretty Ethiopian women, though I didn’t see any in Addis Ababa, or in the Washington, DC area (there is a sort of Little Ethiopia in northern VA, and there also seems to something approximating that in Las Vegas).

    In Dubai, yes, including among the Emirates Airline staff. Like many hellholes, the country seems to suffer from a face drain as well as a brain drain, if my small sample size is any indication.

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