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iSteve Commenter Space Ghost observes:

“Yellow journalism” is the term for scandalous, sensationalized, exaggerated reporting. Perhaps “Gray journalism” could be the term used for the opposite practice, named in honor of The Gray Lady, whereby an interesting newsworthy story is deliberately ignored or written in such a way as to put the reader to sleep.

(By the way, I apologize for the immense number of your comments that have piled up in my moderation inbox over the last 24 hours.)

On the vast NYTimes.com front page, the only mention of Jussie Smollett is this account from two days ago:

2 Men Detained in Jussie Smollett Case Are Released by Police

The Chicago police said Friday that two men who had been held in connection with the reported attack on Jussie Smollett were no longer considered possible suspects.

By Sopan Deb, Feb. 15, 2019

The two brothers arrested in connection with the reported attack on the “Empire” star Jussie Smollett were released without being charged on Friday, a police spokesman said. They are no longer considered potential suspects.

“Due to new evidence as a result of today’s interrogations, the individuals questioned by police in the ‘Empire’ case have now been released without charging and detectives have additional investigative work to complete,” Anthony Guglielmi, the Chicago Police Department spokesman, said in a statement.

That announcement was the latest twist in an investigation that started late last month, when Smollett told the authorities that he had been attacked early one morning by two masked men who yelled homophobic and racial slurs at him in downtown Chicago. Smollett also told the police at the time that the assailants had tied a rope around his neck and poured a chemical substance on him.

But the two people who were arrested are acquaintances of Smollett, a lawyer for the men said. At least one had appeared on “Empire,” a fact that had fueled social media speculation that at least parts of Smollett’s story were not true.

The police went from describing the two men as possible suspects for whom there was probable cause to believe they were part of the crime to releasing them, without explanation as to what had changed.

In a brief phone interview late Friday night, Guglielmi said Smollett was still being treated as a victim. Since Smollett reported the attack, the Police Department has said several times publicly that it has no reason to doubt his story.

A representative for Smollett did not immediately respond late Friday to a request for comment on the latest development.

The men were initially detained on Wednesday after arriving on a return flight from Nigeria. Also on Wednesday, the police raided their home and, according to CBS Chicago, removed items like an “Empire” script, a phone and a black face mask hat.

For weeks, the investigators — who have treated the case as a possible hate crime — had few leads. …

All the Narrative that fits, we print!

Last Friday, Mr. Deb of the NYT did not respond warmly to my insinuations that the NYT was letting its readers down gently on this popular hate hoax:

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/1096531481445449729

Update: Just now on Sunday evening, poor Sopan Deb of the New York Times has posted a new story. Let’s check it out!

As Smollett Mystery Deepens, Police Review Hoax Theory

The actor and singer Jussie Smollett, who says he was attacked by two men last month. The investigation has changed its “trajectory” the police in Chicago said.

By Sopan Deb, Feb. 17, 2019

The strange case of the “Empire” star Jussie Smollett took another turn this weekend with the police in Chicago saying the investigation’s trajectory had changed amid reports that detectives were reviewing whether the attack Smollett reported late last month had been a hoax.

The H-Word makes an appearance in The Times!

The announcement came after investigators released two men — brothers who know Smollett — without charging them after having identified them as potential suspects on Friday. At least one of them had appeared on “Empire” and Smollett, through his lawyers, has acknowledged hiring one of the men as a personal trainer.

On Sunday, Anthony Guglielmi, the chief spokesman for the Chicago Police Department, reported the developments in a Twitter post. …

On Friday, Smollet’s lawyers issued a strong statement in which the actor rejected any suggestion that he had any role in staging an assault on himself.

The episode has been in the national spotlight for weeks, and even President Trump has weighed in on it. As of Sunday, the police said they were interested in interviewing Smollett again as they sort out what occurred.

Here’s a timeline of how we got here.

Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent,” but not that they are black. After all, what does “race,” which does Not Exist, have to do with this story?

 
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  1. On Tuesday, there will be some dutiful coverage and, in the web magazines, a spate of pieces about how Trump drove him to it.

    Then crickets.

    Justice Duvall

  2. If it fits the Narrative, we print it!

  3. “Update: Just now on Sunday evening…”

    And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    “Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent”.

    Which is true, not “Fake News”. Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW’s, love the quibbling.

    • Troll: Abe
    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Corvinus


    Which is true, not “Fake News”. Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW’s, love the quibbling.
     
    A statement can be technically accurate, yet still intended to mislead. When we're supposedly dealing with a story about ersatz Windy City Klansmen, and it turns out the actual miscreants were Black dudes, that's the sort of thing a journalist would mention.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    , @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus

    '“Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent”.

    Which is true, not “Fake News”. Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW’s, love the quibbling.'


    Don't you find it embarrassing that you posted that?

    , @ic1000
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus is kind of funny at #3 and #4, upbraiding Sailer by noting

    > And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    Link to an AP (not a NYT) story on the NYT website.

    Not to worry, AP wants to engage in Gray Journalism right along with Big Brother.

    In paragraph 5, we finally get "Smollett, who is black and gay, has said he was physically attacked last month by two masked men shouting racial and anti-gay slurs and 'This is MAGA country!'"

    Not "two masked white men," because race is a social construct and/or it's not relevant to the story, although Smollett being black is. Or something.

    Continuing with the Fake News theme, we arrive at paragraph 7. "Smollett's lawyers said late Saturday that the actor felt 'victimized' by reports that he played a role in the assault, adding that, 'Nothing is further from the truth and anyone claiming otherwise is lying.'"

    "Huh?," the dedicated reader mumbles. "What's he talking about? What reports?" Sadly, finishing the article offers little insight. Paragraphs 8-20 do reveal that two raceless brothers were questioned by the cops after returning from Nigeria. And also that Smollett went ahead with a West Hollywood show because he couldn't let the attackers win. Brave Jussie!

    Why oh why do people mock the Prestige Press? It's a mystery!

    Replies: @anonymous

  4. “Update: Just now on Sunday evening…”

    And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    “Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent”.

    Which is true, not “Fake News”. Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW’s, love the quibbling.

    “After all, what does “race,” which does Not Exist, have to do with this story?”

    Of course race exists. It’s a biological and social construct.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Corvinus

    Why are we even caring about what The Backward says? We might as well be analyzing The Industrial Worker, the journal of the still-in-nominal-existence IWW.

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @Corvinus

    Nigerian descent?

    Is this like Eddie Murphy's addressing the audience of Saturday Nigh Live, in his most affected and serious voice and commenting, "Coming from a predominantly black family, I cannot recall any relative having the name Buckwheat."

    Replies: @sayless

  5. Yeah, so even “… President Trump weighed in on it” but no mention that Biden, Sanders, Harris et. al. wished it were true.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Buffalo Joe


    no mention that Biden, Sanders, Harris et. al. wished it were true.
     
    Do you suppose they will release statements saying "this is a great day for America as we have learned that white Americans are not as racist and homophobic as we were led to believe."

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  6. Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.

    • Replies: @Pjay
    @Clifford Brown


    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.
     
    Well, he’s also a standup comic (stay classy, NYT), so I think the nickname of "Soupy" better classifies him, not only by his second job, but also his style of recollection of interesting events.

    Write on, Soupy!!
    , @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown


    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.
     
    Is he a subcontinental?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @ZenitFan
    @Clifford Brown

    Cousin of Boba Fett, niece of Jango Fett.

  7. Maybe they’re Nigerians of Lebanese descent, like Tiffany Trump’s boyfriend? Other than the problem of the available photos of them.

  8. I have seen some monsoon days at Riviera but watching these dudes play links golf on Riviera (JB Holmes hit it 255! into the wind) is pretty fun.

    Riviera looks like a million dollars. Or, if it were turned into a subdivision, perhaps 1.5 billion.

  9. “Mystery Deepens,” is one of the most factually incorrect headlines I’ve seen in a long time. In fact, there is virtually no mystery to this story at all anymore.

    I was wondering how they would spin this, and I guess “An Agatha Christie-worthy hopelessly tangled web of contradicting clues we may never truly get to the bottom of” is what they are going with.

  10. O/T

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/dear-qallunaat-white-people-inuit-sandra-inutiq-1.5020210

    Lol, this screed would be called fascist if issued by a white person defending their culture.

    h/t KMGVictoria

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Well done Canada, you've now created another 'Quebec'. As if one wasn't enough.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon

    Maybe her vague general case is against whites as a race. But most of her specific examples exude an aroma of SJW, or busybody bleeding heart from the old days.

    I'm guessing her CFL team isn't the Eskimos.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Ridiculous. Nunavut has a murder rate that rivals Central America, domestic violence and incest at a level to make Caligula blush, and the locals spend ungodly amounts of money on smuggled alcohol. This lady could start there.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Pontius
    @Anon

    CBC has gone off the SJW deep end lately. They were always smug "progressives" but there is almost no pretense of objectivity anymore. It has been overrun by "____ studies" graduates. I used to listen to CBC radio driving to work until I realized one week that every day had begun with an interview of some aggrieved newcomer whinging about the unfairness and structural blah-blah blighting our society.

    It is articles like the Inuk woman interview that always makes me chuckle when people gleefully point out that the majority of university grads are women nowadays. As one guy on YouTube describes them, they are the ladies in open toed shoes writing up the hurt feelings reports on the shop floor.

  11. What makes this story particularly vile is that it reminds us that blacks have no problem lying about whites to get their gibs. Disgusting

    • Replies: @Svigor
    @Meretricious

    Well, half-black half-Jews, anyway.

  12. TMZ and the UK Daily Mail have been good on this hate hoax. Contrast them with what comes from the fakir news babu at the NY Times. And the latest and greatest from TMZ is that this whole affair is going to the Grand Jury.

    TMZ:
    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week … law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We’re told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.
    We’re told when police raided the home of the 2 brothers they found magazines with pages torn out, and authorities are now trying to determine if the missing pages are connected to the threatening letter that was sent to Jussie 8 days before the alleged attack.

    Our sources say early on they asked Jussie if he’d sign complaints against the 2 men who attacked him and he was clear that he would. But, when he found out the 2 brothers were the ones in custody we’re told he said he knew them, felt bad for them and declined to sign the complaints.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Clyde

    NPR has been the worst. There has been radio silence on the whole affair. They did mention Smollett on Sunday, in reference to his donations to HCBU's. Of course, nothing about the hate hoax.

  13. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:

    The shorter Nigerian appears to have a touch of gyno (bitch tits, a steroid symptom). Look at his pecs. Not the impressive size (OK) but how low the nipples are on the muscle and seem to sag down a little.

    I might just be jealous though. Need to do more dips.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    So Gay scrawny soyboy pencil neck Jussie Smollett single handedly fought back against 2 Nigerians who have the body of professional wrestlers, LOL.

    , @Anon
    @Anonymous

    That’s just what I thought. I mean, that you’re jealous.

    , @Clifford Brown
    @Anonymous

    So we are all supposed to believe that Lee Daniels, the man in white shirt on the right, is not using gay themed Empire to get some action?

    What is the black gay version of #MeToo?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  14. @Clifford Brown
    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.

    Replies: @Pjay, @Anonymous, @ZenitFan

    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.

    Well, he’s also a standup comic (stay classy, NYT), so I think the nickname of “Soupy” better classifies him, not only by his second job, but also his style of recollection of interesting events.

    Write on, Soupy!!

  15. …and even President Trump has weighed in on it.

    “Even”?

    High-ranking officials should really keep quiet about things which are the work of the local police.

  16. Not precisely related to the post at hand, but it never fails to amaze how far some of us will go to avoid criticizing the vibrant for even the tiniest of shortcomings. Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong – it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):

    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/03/248515217/why-chaucer-said-ax-instead-of-ask-and-why-some-still-do

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Pat Wreck


    Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong – it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):
     
    This has been well known for a long, long time.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Pat Wreck


    Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong – it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):
     
    This has been well known for a long, long time.
  17. “Yellow journalism” is the term for scandalous, sensationalized, exaggerated reporting. Perhaps “Gray journalism” could be the term used for the opposite practice, named in honor of The Gray Lady, whereby an interesting newsworthy story is deliberately ignored or written in such a way as to put the reader to sleep.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Space Ghost

    Space, Fog is gray, so it seems appropriate.

    , @David
    @Space Ghost

    Hoar journalism has a nice sound.

  18. From scanning his Twitterfeed, it looks like Sopan Deb might be a true believer.

    Still, he may have shown his true colors with this quote. Why is this particular dialogue on Sopan’s mind this weekend?

    https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/1097167485181353985

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown


    From scanning his Twitterfeed, it looks like Sopan Deb might be a true believer.
     
    A true believer in colonising America?

    Still, he may have shown his true colors with this quote.
     
    What does the quote reveal about him?

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

  19. How long until Vox runs a piece on the inherent racism of “hoax”?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  20. @Corvinus
    "Update: Just now on Sunday evening..."

    And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    "Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent".

    Which is true, not "Fake News". Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW's, love the quibbling.

    "After all, what does “race,” which does Not Exist, have to do with this story?"

    Of course race exists. It's a biological and social construct.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Inquiring Mind

    Why are we even caring about what The Backward says? We might as well be analyzing The Industrial Worker, the journal of the still-in-nominal-existence IWW.

  21. Frontlash.

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzqeOltWoAEfxpM.jpg

  22. A wannabe Madame President — a paragon of reason and restraint.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @eah

    eah, Right now Harris, Biden, Sanders et. al. are having back up warning horns installed in their asses. Beep. Beep. Beep.

  23. I think we should always refer to the New York Times as Walter Duranty’s newspaper.

    They covered up Stalin’s genocide and think they deserve a Pulitzer Prize for it. Why would you expect anything but lies from these vermin?

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  24. Mr. Smollett must do jail time for this, if proven to be a hoax. And the media organizations, prominent media figures and politicians who pushed this story to intimidate, disparage and demoralize a couple hundred million Americans and to cynically enflame blacks and gays to create division and acrimony must be held accountable and made to acknowledge their deceit and malevolence.

    The rank and file good guys among the Chicago Police apparently heroically grinded out the truth, likely much to the dismay of the powers that be in Chicago, including Mr. Emanuel.

    The rebirth of America will ultimately come from the ground up as a mass awakening is occurring.

    • Agree: utu, densa
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @George Washington

    George Washington wrote:


    Mr. Smollett must do jail time for this, if proven to be a hoax.
     
    Non-violent offense --- my guess is he gets probation. It would be nice though if he had to reimburse the city of Chicago (and maybe Cook County and the state of Illinois??) for whatever the investigation has cost. Must be well into six figures.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  25. Probably the wrong thread, but I don’t see how any of this makes sense unless he didn’t want it to be filmed and knew that the camera was facing the other direction. Then could have just acted surprised to learn that it wasn’t on film.

    B/c why the hell would he think that being on camera “beaten” by two guys he knew, would be a good idea?

    OTOH, “angered and hurt” is how pschycopaths/liars/con-men act when their lies are found out.

  26. The exact same group of SJW that fell head over heels for the Jazmine Barnes hoax, and with the same fervor. Anyone who questioned this preposterous story was pummeled with abuse, epithets, and banishment from left or Dem forums, and will receive even more hostility now that it’s been verified as a hoax.

    David Cole just wrote that whichever party can cut ties with its nutty fringe – the GOP with the religious nuts or the Dems with Shaun King’s mob – would have a clear advantage. I don’t see it happening in my ever-diminishing lifetime though.

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
    @Sane Left Libertarian

    "Left-Libertarian" is both a contradiction in terms and a euphemism for "Marxist Losing His Religion."

    , @JimDandy
    @Sane Left Libertarian

    That sounds like a really pathetic copout. What power or influence do the Republican "religious nuts" have anymore except when it comes to absolutely legitimate positions--keeping boys from showering with the girls in high school, pointing out that late term abortions are murder, and so on.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Sane Left Libertarian

    "Sane Left Libertarian" wrote:


    David Cole just wrote that whichever party can cut ties with its nutty fringe – the GOP with the religious nuts or the Dems with Shaun King’s mob – would have a clear advantage
     
    I find all religions quite batty indeed, but, as far as I can tell, the main influence the "religious nuts" in the GOP have on American politics is to encourage US government slavishness towards Israel, and they are hardly alone in that!

    Oh, one other influence on American politics: they serve as a punching bag and unifying force for the Left -- the "deplorables," those clinging to their "guns and religion," and all the rest.

    My parents made me attend an evangelical Christian church as a child: I did not enjoy the experience, I refused to join the church and be baptized, and I really disliked being told for years how I deserved to rot in Hell for all eternity. Unlike most Leftists, I actually have reason to resent what you call "religious nuts."

    But, you know, most of these people are actually pretty decent neighbors and fellow citizens: I liked most of the people at my parents' church, even while I disagreed intensely with their religion.

    Why do Leftists, most of whom have little or no personal contact with evangelicals, hate them so much? Reminds me of the Nazi attitude towards the Jews: some real psychological pathology in both cases.

    And, as a libertarian myself, I would certainly not call myself a "Left Libertarian" (or, for that matter, a "Rightist libertarian"). I'm okay with "Jeffersonian libertarian" or "Thoreauist libertarian."

    Why identify with a group, the Left, that has brought so much suffering, oppression, and mass murder to the human race?

  27. Or this is a case of us being very careful in a criminal case and only dealing with known facts, given how many journalists have gotten things wrong on this story.

    I guess we’ll see if NYT journalists deal only in known facts when the next Hate Hoax comes along in a week or two. Track record to date is not encouraging.

  28. I guess we’ll see if NYT journalists deal only in known facts when the next Hate Hoax comes along in a week or two.

    Sure. Just like they did with Chrissy and Kavanuagh.

  29. He is invoking Trump to show that even Trump was duped, so it’s not an SJW thing. Because that would make it a hate hoax.

  30. @Corvinus
    "Update: Just now on Sunday evening..."

    And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    "Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent".

    Which is true, not "Fake News". Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW's, love the quibbling.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Colin Wright, @ic1000

    Which is true, not “Fake News”. Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW’s, love the quibbling.

    A statement can be technically accurate, yet still intended to mislead. When we’re supposedly dealing with a story about ersatz Windy City Klansmen, and it turns out the actual miscreants were Black dudes, that’s the sort of thing a journalist would mention.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    You appear to have the patience of a saint.

  31. Anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, I did see this one last night:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/arts/television/jussie-smollett-police-interview.html

    The Chicago Police Department said Saturday it was seeking to speak further with the “Empire” star Jussie Smollett amid reports that two brothers who were arrested and once considered potential suspects in an attack on the actor have told investigators they were paid to take part in a hoax.

  32. Maybe tomorrow he will verify that the Nigerians are black.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jim Don Bob

    "Maybe tomorrow he will verify that the Nigerians are black."

    So it has to be pointed out that the Nigerian brothers are Black or else people will think the Nigerian brothers racially look like Zac Efron and Ted Bundy? I didn't know Nigeria was such a racially diverse country where a Nigerian can look like anything.

  33. anon[326] • Disclaimer says:

    If folks like the Koch brothers were so inclined, they could start big New York and D.C. papers to challenge the Times and the Post. The papers could mock the NYT and Post when they omit the truth and pertinent details endlessly.

    As a matter of fact, if they could simply pay for a parody front page paperlavailable for free left at subways that mocked the NYT an the Post in the Steve Sailer style of quoting in boxes and critiquing the quotes to literal scorn, they could throw shade on the Establishment organs’ honesty even with their most blindly faithful readers………..but Republican money people just wont do these things.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @anon

    Because the Republican money people thrive on identity politics, too.

  34. Apparently, our man Jussie may be in real trouble — Grand Jury.

    TMZ has an “Excliusive” headlined “Jussie Smollett Case to Go to Grand Jury … Doubt MAGA Comment Because Trump Folks Don’t Watch ‘Empire’.”

    The lede:

    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week … law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We’re told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.

    I think the Chicago PD are annoyed. Very annoyed.

    Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @PhysicistDave

    It is strange that TMZ seems to perform more investigative journalism than the major media outlets. TMZ is often refreshingly out of step with politically correct norms and the TMZ commentators are frankly brutal.

    The inherent populist nature of tabloid journalism and how celebrity journalism is often actually sublimated resentment allows for counter-narratives to be expressed on TMZ that would never be tolerated in more respectable outlets.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @Vinteuil
    @PhysicistDave

    Does a False Police Report - which seems to be all they can get this guy on - rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?

    Replies: @newrouter, @Mr McKenna, @PhysicistDave

    , @anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    "Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD."

    Many here, including Mr. Sailer, seem to romanticize police -- particularly in big cities -- as the savvy, tough but fair, heroic figures depicted on Dragnet.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @utu
    @PhysicistDave

    Grand Jury? Why do they need Grand Jury? That's not a good news.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @sayless, @sayless

    , @Bill Jones
    @PhysicistDave

    What's a TMZ?

  35. @Corvinus
    "Update: Just now on Sunday evening..."

    And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    "Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent".

    Which is true, not "Fake News". Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW's, love the quibbling.

    "After all, what does “race,” which does Not Exist, have to do with this story?"

    Of course race exists. It's a biological and social construct.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Inquiring Mind

    Nigerian descent?

    Is this like Eddie Murphy’s addressing the audience of Saturday Nigh Live, in his most affected and serious voice and commenting, “Coming from a predominantly black family, I cannot recall any relative having the name Buckwheat.”

    • Replies: @sayless
    @Inquiring Mind

    I didn’t have a relative named “Alfalfa.”

  36. Jumping on the hoax band wagon! Better be safe than sorry. I recently contacted, on social media, a cousin of my dad’s, who is only 2 years older than I am. We grew up together, as cousins, because we were contemporaries. But due to our family’s total disfuction, we have not had contact for over 30 years. My dad’s cousin is a rabid Trump hater. She tweeted some crazy crap about Smollett and his “Lynching”. I responded to her that “It” was a hoax. Have not heard from back from her since

  37. @PhysicistDave
    Apparently, our man Jussie may be in real trouble -- Grand Jury.

    TMZ has an "Excliusive" headlined "Jussie Smollett Case to Go to Grand Jury ... Doubt MAGA Comment Because Trump Folks Don't Watch 'Empire'."

    The lede:

    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We're told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.
     
    I think the Chicago PD are annoyed. Very annoyed.

    Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Vinteuil, @anonymous, @utu, @Bill Jones

    It is strange that TMZ seems to perform more investigative journalism than the major media outlets. TMZ is often refreshingly out of step with politically correct norms and the TMZ commentators are frankly brutal.

    The inherent populist nature of tabloid journalism and how celebrity journalism is often actually sublimated resentment allows for counter-narratives to be expressed on TMZ that would never be tolerated in more respectable outlets.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Clifford Brown

    I’ve watched TMZ a few times. It’s a lot of very young people, half black making very perceptive disdainful and rude comments about so called celebrities. Many of the comments are a lot like ours on Steve’s blog.

  38. @PhysicistDave
    Apparently, our man Jussie may be in real trouble -- Grand Jury.

    TMZ has an "Excliusive" headlined "Jussie Smollett Case to Go to Grand Jury ... Doubt MAGA Comment Because Trump Folks Don't Watch 'Empire'."

    The lede:

    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We're told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.
     
    I think the Chicago PD are annoyed. Very annoyed.

    Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Vinteuil, @anonymous, @utu, @Bill Jones

    Does a False Police Report – which seems to be all they can get this guy on – rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @Vinteuil

    The fool used the USPS. Makes it a federal case.

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Vinteuil

    Mitchell Dutz, 18, was sentenced to three years in Illinois state prison for fabricating claims that three black men stole a car.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02/17/02/9911678-6713267-image-m-11_1550371717766.jpg

    Just know he's having a fine time with all the black men in the Pen.

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Vinteuil

    Vinteuil asked me:


    Does a False Police Report – which seems to be all they can get this guy on – rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?
     
    I don't know -- you'd have to ask a lawyer (but see the other responses by newrouter and Mr. McKenna).

    My guess is that they are trying to get our man Jussie's attention and that a plea deal will be worked out.

    Right now, though, I am glad I am not Jussie Smollett!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Anon

  39. It was reported Sunday that Jussie Smollett shuffled his criminal defense lawyers and hired a crisis management firm as the hate hoax unravels.
    Fox 32 reporter Rafer Weigel said on Sunday that Michael Monico is no longer representing Jussie Smollett because there was reportedly a disagreement about the decision to release Saturday night’s statement. Mr. Smollett will now be represented by Chicago attorneys Victor Henderson and Todd Pugh.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/jussie-smollett-shuffles-criminal-defense-lawyers-hires-crisis-management-firm-as-hate-hoax-unravels/

    More details of tweets etc at Gateway pundit link

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Clyde

    From the Gateway Pundit article:


    Despite all of the reports from police sources that Jussie Smollett staged the hate crime, his lawyers pushed back in a statement late Saturday night calling the Chicago cops liars.

    Jussie Smollett’s attorneys, Todd S. Pugh and Victor P. Henderson, released a statement late Saturday night insisting the alleged MAGA attack that took place on January 29th in the subfreezing temps in Chicago was real.

    Jussie Smollett could get up to three years in prison for filing a false police report in the state of Illinois.
     
    Publicly calling the cops liars might not have been the best move here.

    The only way Smollett gets out of this is if the national Democrats decide the story needs to go away so that they pressure the local DA to quickly give a deal for probation, or something like that.

    Replies: @M. Hartley, @Clyde

  40. @Clifford Brown
    @PhysicistDave

    It is strange that TMZ seems to perform more investigative journalism than the major media outlets. TMZ is often refreshingly out of step with politically correct norms and the TMZ commentators are frankly brutal.

    The inherent populist nature of tabloid journalism and how celebrity journalism is often actually sublimated resentment allows for counter-narratives to be expressed on TMZ that would never be tolerated in more respectable outlets.

    Replies: @Alden

    I’ve watched TMZ a few times. It’s a lot of very young people, half black making very perceptive disdainful and rude comments about so called celebrities. Many of the comments are a lot like ours on Steve’s blog.

  41. Or this is a case of us being very careful in a criminal case and only dealing with known facts, given how many journalists have gotten things wrong on this story

    Would that they were this objective when writing about the Covington boys.

  42. The NYT new motto: “All the news that’s print to fit.”

    • Agree: Vinteuil
  43. @PhysicistDave
    Apparently, our man Jussie may be in real trouble -- Grand Jury.

    TMZ has an "Excliusive" headlined "Jussie Smollett Case to Go to Grand Jury ... Doubt MAGA Comment Because Trump Folks Don't Watch 'Empire'."

    The lede:

    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We're told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.
     
    I think the Chicago PD are annoyed. Very annoyed.

    Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Vinteuil, @anonymous, @utu, @Bill Jones

    “Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD.”

    Many here, including Mr. Sailer, seem to romanticize police — particularly in big cities — as the savvy, tough but fair, heroic figures depicted on Dragnet.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @anonymous

    anonymous[340] wrote to me:


    Many here, including Mr. Sailer, seem to romanticize police — particularly in big cities — as the savvy, tough but fair, heroic figures depicted on Dragnet.
     
    Well... I have not often heard the Chicago PD referred to as "fair," much less "heroic"!

    But "tough"? Yeah, I suppose so.

    I think you are trying to shift the conversation from whether our man Jussie is a righteous dude to whether the Chicago PD are righteous dudes.

    It seems that Jussie is not a righteous dude. And, for him to get the rather tough dudes at the Chicago PD really angry at him was probably unwise.

    Personally, I do not care that much what happens to Jussie as long as the truth comes out.

    I do think that the reaction of the ruling elite will be, let us say, illuminating.

    Replies: @anonymous

  44. And all the news we print, we retrofit.

  45. “Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent,” but not that they are black.

    Saying Black Nigerians is redundant because Nigerians are all Black by default. Nigeria is not a racially diverse country. Even a light skin Mulatto would stick out like a sore thumb in Nigeria let alone a White person.

    I have read about light skin African Americans traveling there and being seen as White in Nigeria because their phenotype is non existent there among Blacks.

  46. I had a look at Slate’s current headlines. There is not a single Smollett story up on their main page at the moment.

  47. @Jim Don Bob
    Maybe tomorrow he will verify that the Nigerians are black.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Maybe tomorrow he will verify that the Nigerians are black.”

    So it has to be pointed out that the Nigerian brothers are Black or else people will think the Nigerian brothers racially look like Zac Efron and Ted Bundy? I didn’t know Nigeria was such a racially diverse country where a Nigerian can look like anything.

  48. @Clifford Brown
    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.

    Replies: @Pjay, @Anonymous, @ZenitFan

    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.

    Is he a subcontinental?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous


    Is he a subcontinental?
     
    But, of course! Who better to lecture us Deplorables!

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/56e3fc7e150000ad000b1cc6.png

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

  49. News flash

    Standup comic Dave Chappelle is more astute than all Democratic presidential candidates and all of American elite media put together.
    http://www.newnownext.com/dave-chappelle-jussie-smollett-attack-joke/02/2019/

    He questioned a number of elements of Smollett’s story, saying he was skeptical from the beginning, despite wanting to believe him. Even Scooby-Doo, he joked, would have questioned the veracity of the actor and singer’s account.

    Chappelle suggested Smollett wouldn’t be going to Subway late at night, asking if he didn’t have people who could do that for him. He also said it seemed odd to him that someone would be wearing both a ski mask and a “Make America Great Again” hat, as some reporting claimed the two alleged attackers were wearing. Smollett has said that he never claimed the men were wearing MAGA hats.

    Chappelle also wondered who would have rope with them in Chicago, and why he waited so long to report the incident to police, as well as why he would keep the noose around his neck. Smollett has said he didn’t want to call police at first, and that he left the rope around his neck because he wanted them to see it when they arrived.

    Smollett said one of the men asked him, “Aren’t you that faggot Empire nigger?”

    Chappelle doubted that too, saying it sounded more like something he would say, and asked how anyone could get through watching that show if they hated gay people, due to its high level of LGBTQ representation.

    He didn’t buy that Smollett’s alleged attackers would have shouted, “This is MAGA country!” either, as Smollett claims, saying that’s not how white, Trump supporting racists talk, instead saying things like, “This is America.”

    He repeatedly expressed his anger that, in his belief, Smollett had lied about the attack, saying it would hurt the credibility of real victims of anti-gay and racist violence, and joked that he hoped “the gays” take the brunt of the blow back.

    ….

    He continued in that vein, saying just because someone is gay doesn’t make them right about everything, and that he wants LGBTQ people to get their rights so he can go back to being funny.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @New Dealer

    They should have asked Chappelle if Clarence Bigby could have done it.

    Those are just the same objections any person who isn't sold out to the narrative had about the story.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @New Dealer

    Comedians are notoriously smarter than other entertainers.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  50. @Clifford Brown
    From scanning his Twitterfeed, it looks like Sopan Deb might be a true believer.

    Still, he may have shown his true colors with this quote. Why is this particular dialogue on Sopan's mind this weekend?

    https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/1097167485181353985

    Replies: @Anonymous

    From scanning his Twitterfeed, it looks like Sopan Deb might be a true believer.

    A true believer in colonising America?

    Still, he may have shown his true colors with this quote.

    What does the quote reveal about him?

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Anonymous

    Yes, true believer in the sense that he will stand with The Narrative until the bitter end and is not particularly concerned with the facts.


    "Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons,"
     
    Sopan Deb has spent the last few weeks rather deftly reporting on the Jussie Affair without disclosing the obvious fraud to his readership because to expose the fraud would be detrimental to The Narrative. Sopan's role is to obfuscate the truth so that his audience does not figure things out. His role is to maintain The Narrative at all costs.

    Sopan's musings over the weekend, after weeks of obvious and intentional obfuscation, bring him to this Star Trek quote where Spock does not want Kirk to show any affection (a.k.a. weakness) for him while in front of the Klingons (THE ENEMY).

    We are the Klingons.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

  51. @Anonymous
    The shorter Nigerian appears to have a touch of gyno (bitch tits, a steroid symptom). Look at his pecs. Not the impressive size (OK) but how low the nipples are on the muscle and seem to sag down a little.

    http://gossiponthis.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/nigerian-brothers-abimbola-abel-osundairo-olabinjo-ola-lee-daniels.jpg

    I might just be jealous though. Need to do more dips.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anon, @Clifford Brown

    So Gay scrawny soyboy pencil neck Jussie Smollett single handedly fought back against 2 Nigerians who have the body of professional wrestlers, LOL.

  52. @Vinteuil
    @PhysicistDave

    Does a False Police Report - which seems to be all they can get this guy on - rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?

    Replies: @newrouter, @Mr McKenna, @PhysicistDave

    The fool used the USPS. Makes it a federal case.

  53. @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown


    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.
     
    Is he a subcontinental?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Is he a subcontinental?

    But, of course! Who better to lecture us Deplorables!

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Jim Don Bob

    Slightly OT-

    If we are discussing our future Subcontinental Overlords, I found this interesting.

    http://www.sfweekly.com/news/kamalas-karma/


    “In Indian society we go by birth,” Shyamala explains. “We are Brahmins, that is the top caste. Please do not confuse this with class, which is only about money. For Brahmins, the bloodline is the most important. My family, named Gopalan, goes back more than 1,000 years.”

    By marrying an American, Shyamala was the first person to break the ancient Gopalan bloodline. The union collapsed when Kamala was 5. (“My father is a good guy, but we are not close,” she says.) Shyamala earned a doctorate in endocrinology from Berkeley and went on to become an internationally recognized expert in breast cancer research.
     
    From the article, Willie Brown not only got Kamala the hook up on two sweet state government positions, but Willie gave her a BMW.

    Speaking of "no show" jobs, we have those Back East as well in Newark The Other City By the Bay.

    Lotta of money in this shit.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49H_PsDoLDY
  54. Beyond the local DA, Trump’s DOJ needs to go after him for mail fraud for the fake threat letter. Federalize it – Don’t leave this in the hands of a Chicago DA.

  55. @Pat Wreck
    Not precisely related to the post at hand, but it never fails to amaze how far some of us will go to avoid criticizing the vibrant for even the tiniest of shortcomings. Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong - it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):

    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/03/248515217/why-chaucer-said-ax-instead-of-ask-and-why-some-still-do

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason

    Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong – it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):

    This has been well known for a long, long time.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Jonathan Mason

    True, but just the same one of the funniest headlines from the old, formerly funny , Onion was: “African-American neighborhood terrorized by ask murderer”.

  56. @Pat Wreck
    Not precisely related to the post at hand, but it never fails to amaze how far some of us will go to avoid criticizing the vibrant for even the tiniest of shortcomings. Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong - it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):

    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/03/248515217/why-chaucer-said-ax-instead-of-ask-and-why-some-still-do

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Jonathan Mason

    Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong – it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):

    This has been well known for a long, long time.

  57. @Buffalo Joe
    Yeah, so even "... President Trump weighed in on it" but no mention that Biden, Sanders, Harris et. al. wished it were true.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    no mention that Biden, Sanders, Harris et. al. wished it were true.

    Do you suppose they will release statements saying “this is a great day for America as we have learned that white Americans are not as racist and homophobic as we were led to believe.”

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Hypnotoad666

    Hypno, Hmm, more likely they'll say blacks have a right to call "Wolf."

  58. @Anonymous
    The shorter Nigerian appears to have a touch of gyno (bitch tits, a steroid symptom). Look at his pecs. Not the impressive size (OK) but how low the nipples are on the muscle and seem to sag down a little.

    http://gossiponthis.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/nigerian-brothers-abimbola-abel-osundairo-olabinjo-ola-lee-daniels.jpg

    I might just be jealous though. Need to do more dips.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anon, @Clifford Brown

    That’s just what I thought. I mean, that you’re jealous.

  59. @George Washington
    Mr. Smollett must do jail time for this, if proven to be a hoax. And the media organizations, prominent media figures and politicians who pushed this story to intimidate, disparage and demoralize a couple hundred million Americans and to cynically enflame blacks and gays to create division and acrimony must be held accountable and made to acknowledge their deceit and malevolence.

    The rank and file good guys among the Chicago Police apparently heroically grinded out the truth, likely much to the dismay of the powers that be in Chicago, including Mr. Emanuel.

    The rebirth of America will ultimately come from the ground up as a mass awakening is occurring.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    George Washington wrote:

    Mr. Smollett must do jail time for this, if proven to be a hoax.

    Non-violent offense — my guess is he gets probation. It would be nice though if he had to reimburse the city of Chicago (and maybe Cook County and the state of Illinois??) for whatever the investigation has cost. Must be well into six figures.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @PhysicistDave


    Non-violent offense — my guess is he gets probation. It would be nice though if he had to reimburse the city of Chicago (and maybe Cook County and the state of Illinois??) for whatever the investigation has cost. Must be well into six figures.
     
    Do Trump voters have a cause of action against him for defamation?
  60. @Corvinus
    "Update: Just now on Sunday evening..."

    And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    "Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent".

    Which is true, not "Fake News". Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW's, love the quibbling.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Colin Wright, @ic1000

    ‘“Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent”.

    Which is true, not “Fake News”. Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW’s, love the quibbling.’

    Don’t you find it embarrassing that you posted that?

  61. Nothing infuriates me more than the disingenuousness of the press. They hold themselves out as if they’re an irreplaceable institution, the only arbiters worthy of filtering the flood of events that take place each day. Deep down, they’re well aware of their own biases, and yet when forced into self-reflection, their typical response is to become even haughtier. They deserve every jeer of “fake news” that’s come their way during the Trump administration.

    This guy Deb is a classic example. It’s been clear for a few days now that Jussie’s story is falling apart. The circumstances were sketchy from the beginning (two white men in the middle of a polar vortex at 2 am hunting down a famous black actor and declaring Chicago to be “maga country”), and once the suspects were personally connected to the actor, it was game, set, match. Yet the NYT reporter, pinnacle of the profession, can’t possibly connect the dots for the readers. Instead the new facts merely “fueled social media speculation” that Jussie’s story isn’t true. Disingenuous, disingenuous, disingenuous.

    I don’t know if Gray Journalism will catch on, but we definitely need a term for it. Fake News is considered to be outright untruths, but the much more common form of media bias is lies of omission. That’s the truly nefarious fake news, because most people have no way of noticing it. Getting a term into the public lexicon will help raise awareness.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @DPG


    Getting a term into the public lexicon will help raise awareness.
     
    I think in his post Steve almost used the phrase "managed news." That could work.

    It's true, however, that there are many different techniques for creating biased news that don't involve outright factual misstatements.

    Indeed, it all starts with the biased selection of what stories to cover in the first place.

    The NYT, for example, daily scours the twitter feeds and crime blotters of the nation looking for any story with a white perp. and a black vic. -- because that's the only crime that is newsworthy to them.

    They only occassionally trap themselves into reporting on black crime when they build up a story in the belief that they have a Great White Defendant, but then he turns out to be Black after all (as in the Houston shooting of a few weeks ago).

    It's no wonder that NYT readers can believe that Blacks are being oppressed by daily KKK attacks.

    Replies: @Pontius, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Jack D
    @DPG

    It's a mystery I tell you, a mystery. A deepening mystery.

    I predicted that true believers would hang on until the bitter end. Here's an example, just posted today:


    Smollett claims that he was the victim of a brutal hate crime, and until the police confirm otherwise I stand with my initial belief in him. I don’t do it to save face for myself, I do it to stand in solidarity with the numerous victims of LGBTQ hate crimes and homicides—reported and unreported—around the world.

    And I will not be shamed into turning my back on them.
     
    http://www.newnownext.com/i-dont-regret-believing-jussie-smollett-and-i-wont-apologize/02/2019/

    (Not a site that I normally frequent, not that there's anything wrong with that, but was taken there by the link saying that Chappelle had condemned poor Jussie despite the lack of definitive proof that he was lying (that it's all still a "deep mystery" according to the NY Times). A very deep mystery. I don't know that we will ever get to the bottom of this deep, deep mystery. It may remain, like the Loch Ness Monster and the fate of Amelia Earhart, one of those very deep mysteries of history that are never resolved, but I think it's time to turn the page on this and move on to whatever horrible thing Trump has done today, wouldn't you agree?

    Replies: @Jefferson

  62. @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown


    From scanning his Twitterfeed, it looks like Sopan Deb might be a true believer.
     
    A true believer in colonising America?

    Still, he may have shown his true colors with this quote.
     
    What does the quote reveal about him?

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    Yes, true believer in the sense that he will stand with The Narrative until the bitter end and is not particularly concerned with the facts.

    “Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons,”

    Sopan Deb has spent the last few weeks rather deftly reporting on the Jussie Affair without disclosing the obvious fraud to his readership because to expose the fraud would be detrimental to The Narrative. Sopan’s role is to obfuscate the truth so that his audience does not figure things out. His role is to maintain The Narrative at all costs.

    Sopan’s musings over the weekend, after weeks of obvious and intentional obfuscation, bring him to this Star Trek quote where Spock does not want Kirk to show any affection (a.k.a. weakness) for him while in front of the Klingons (THE ENEMY).

    We are the Klingons.

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
    @Clifford Brown

    Yes, well said.

  63. @New Dealer
    News flash

    Standup comic Dave Chappelle is more astute than all Democratic presidential candidates and all of American elite media put together.
    http://www.newnownext.com/dave-chappelle-jussie-smollett-attack-joke/02/2019/

    He questioned a number of elements of Smollett’s story, saying he was skeptical from the beginning, despite wanting to believe him. Even Scooby-Doo, he joked, would have questioned the veracity of the actor and singer’s account.

    Chappelle suggested Smollett wouldn’t be going to Subway late at night, asking if he didn’t have people who could do that for him. He also said it seemed odd to him that someone would be wearing both a ski mask and a “Make America Great Again” hat, as some reporting claimed the two alleged attackers were wearing. Smollett has said that he never claimed the men were wearing MAGA hats.

    Chappelle also wondered who would have rope with them in Chicago, and why he waited so long to report the incident to police, as well as why he would keep the noose around his neck. Smollett has said he didn’t want to call police at first, and that he left the rope around his neck because he wanted them to see it when they arrived.

    Smollett said one of the men asked him, “Aren’t you that faggot Empire nigger?”

    Chappelle doubted that too, saying it sounded more like something he would say, and asked how anyone could get through watching that show if they hated gay people, due to its high level of LGBTQ representation.

    He didn’t buy that Smollett’s alleged attackers would have shouted, “This is MAGA country!” either, as Smollett claims, saying that’s not how white, Trump supporting racists talk, instead saying things like, “This is America.”

    He repeatedly expressed his anger that, in his belief, Smollett had lied about the attack, saying it would hurt the credibility of real victims of anti-gay and racist violence, and joked that he hoped “the gays” take the brunt of the blow back.

    ….

    He continued in that vein, saying just because someone is gay doesn’t make them right about everything, and that he wants LGBTQ people to get their rights so he can go back to being funny.
     

    Replies: @Barnard, @Almost Missouri

    They should have asked Chappelle if Clarence Bigby could have done it.

    Those are just the same objections any person who isn’t sold out to the narrative had about the story.

  64. “On the vast NYTimes.com front page, the only mention of Jussie Smollett is this account from two days ago…”

    That’s because they’re feverishly huddled in the editorial room, rounding up the team from the UVA rape hoax days, plus Sopan Deb. They’re debating the best way to bury the humiliating and credibility sapping collapse of yet another supposed “hate crime”.

    Okay team, obviously we’re gonna start with some straight out misdirection. The only way to cover up this much shite is to misdirect fast, soon and smooth, so that our readers don’t even know it’s there. Right? So look. The case is getting solved, right? So we start with

    As Smollett Mystery Deepens

    Bam! First four words, right out of the gate and we’ve got them running the opposite direction! Genius right? The case is getting solved, but we say “mystery deepens“! Haha! Sometimes I amaze even myself! Okay, so now we’ve got momentum, we need follow through: twists, turns, trajectories, let ’em think they’re on a roller coaster! Whish! Whoosh! I mean, who knows whats happening in there, right? Soaper, are you getting this?”

    “It’s Sopan, sir.”

    “Whatever, listen, now is the time for the classic grey journalist coup de grace: you’re gonna smother this bitch in mind numbing technical detail: attorneys’ names, relationships of who, what, to whom, who said what, where, when. Keep it complicated, yet abstract. Seemingly relevant, yet following no clear plot. Anyone who is still paying attention after all that, we don’t want ’em as a reader.

    Okay, you’ve got your marching orders. Now you know what do Soapy.”

    “Sopan. My pronouns are…”

    “Haha. Yeah, okay get to work. Meeting dismissed.

    Sarah, I want to see you in my office again.

    Draw the blinds when you come in.”

  65. @Anonymous
    The shorter Nigerian appears to have a touch of gyno (bitch tits, a steroid symptom). Look at his pecs. Not the impressive size (OK) but how low the nipples are on the muscle and seem to sag down a little.

    http://gossiponthis.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/nigerian-brothers-abimbola-abel-osundairo-olabinjo-ola-lee-daniels.jpg

    I might just be jealous though. Need to do more dips.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Anon, @Clifford Brown

    So we are all supposed to believe that Lee Daniels, the man in white shirt on the right, is not using gay themed Empire to get some action?

    What is the black gay version of #MeToo?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Clifford Brown

    Maybe Jussie can Change The Conversation by #MeTooing Lee Daniels (director of "Precious") by detailing just how he auditioned for the role?

    Replies: @Jefferson

  66. @PhysicistDave
    Apparently, our man Jussie may be in real trouble -- Grand Jury.

    TMZ has an "Excliusive" headlined "Jussie Smollett Case to Go to Grand Jury ... Doubt MAGA Comment Because Trump Folks Don't Watch 'Empire'."

    The lede:

    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We're told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.
     
    I think the Chicago PD are annoyed. Very annoyed.

    Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Vinteuil, @anonymous, @utu, @Bill Jones

    Grand Jury? Why do they need Grand Jury? That’s not a good news.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @utu

    utu, The local DA is ultra lib, almost anti cop, so maybe you wash your hands by giving it to a GJ for an indictment.

    , @sayless
    @utu

    I didn’t have a relative named “Alfalfa.”

    , @sayless
    @utu

    Grand juries sit for several weeks and vote simply on whether or not to indict based on evidence presented, and they hear many cases. A special jury won’t be empaneled for this case.

    This is bad news for Smollet because the grand jury doesn’t hear evidence unless someone has been arrested and charged. They’re drawing up the indictments now, probably. He’ll be arrested this week, probably.

    I’m starting to feel sorry for him, because he’s a dumb thirty-six-year-old kid, and he has seen so many hate hoaxes come and go with a pass, no serious consequences for anybody, he thought this one would sail on by too.

    If previous hoaxes had been publicized and prosecuted he might have thought twice.

    It was a lousy plan, and too soon after The Great Covington Smirk.

    Maybe he’ll implicate Kamala, that would be nice.

  67. @Clyde
    It was reported Sunday that Jussie Smollett shuffled his criminal defense lawyers and hired a crisis management firm as the hate hoax unravels.
    Fox 32 reporter Rafer Weigel said on Sunday that Michael Monico is no longer representing Jussie Smollett because there was reportedly a disagreement about the decision to release Saturday night’s statement. Mr. Smollett will now be represented by Chicago attorneys Victor Henderson and Todd Pugh.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/jussie-smollett-shuffles-criminal-defense-lawyers-hires-crisis-management-firm-as-hate-hoax-unravels/

    More details of tweets etc at Gateway pundit link

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    From the Gateway Pundit article:

    Despite all of the reports from police sources that Jussie Smollett staged the hate crime, his lawyers pushed back in a statement late Saturday night calling the Chicago cops liars.

    Jussie Smollett’s attorneys, Todd S. Pugh and Victor P. Henderson, released a statement late Saturday night insisting the alleged MAGA attack that took place on January 29th in the subfreezing temps in Chicago was real.

    Jussie Smollett could get up to three years in prison for filing a false police report in the state of Illinois.

    Publicly calling the cops liars might not have been the best move here.

    The only way Smollett gets out of this is if the national Democrats decide the story needs to go away so that they pressure the local DA to quickly give a deal for probation, or something like that.

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
    @Hypnotoad666


    The only way Smollett gets out of this is if the national Democrats decide the story needs to go away so that they pressure the local DA to quickly give a deal for probation, or something like that.
     
    Yep. They'll plea-bargain it down to something like "temporary confusion due to toxic systemic racism" and his sentence will be to go on a national speaking tour. That's all that anyone will remember of this whole affair.
    , @Clyde
    @Hypnotoad666

    You might have something there. This is a national embarrassment for racist Dems, there is an incentive for powerful Dems outside of Illinois to exert pressure on the Chicago DA to let Jussie off easy and quickly bury this affair.

  68. @New Dealer
    News flash

    Standup comic Dave Chappelle is more astute than all Democratic presidential candidates and all of American elite media put together.
    http://www.newnownext.com/dave-chappelle-jussie-smollett-attack-joke/02/2019/

    He questioned a number of elements of Smollett’s story, saying he was skeptical from the beginning, despite wanting to believe him. Even Scooby-Doo, he joked, would have questioned the veracity of the actor and singer’s account.

    Chappelle suggested Smollett wouldn’t be going to Subway late at night, asking if he didn’t have people who could do that for him. He also said it seemed odd to him that someone would be wearing both a ski mask and a “Make America Great Again” hat, as some reporting claimed the two alleged attackers were wearing. Smollett has said that he never claimed the men were wearing MAGA hats.

    Chappelle also wondered who would have rope with them in Chicago, and why he waited so long to report the incident to police, as well as why he would keep the noose around his neck. Smollett has said he didn’t want to call police at first, and that he left the rope around his neck because he wanted them to see it when they arrived.

    Smollett said one of the men asked him, “Aren’t you that faggot Empire nigger?”

    Chappelle doubted that too, saying it sounded more like something he would say, and asked how anyone could get through watching that show if they hated gay people, due to its high level of LGBTQ representation.

    He didn’t buy that Smollett’s alleged attackers would have shouted, “This is MAGA country!” either, as Smollett claims, saying that’s not how white, Trump supporting racists talk, instead saying things like, “This is America.”

    He repeatedly expressed his anger that, in his belief, Smollett had lied about the attack, saying it would hurt the credibility of real victims of anti-gay and racist violence, and joked that he hoped “the gays” take the brunt of the blow back.

    ….

    He continued in that vein, saying just because someone is gay doesn’t make them right about everything, and that he wants LGBTQ people to get their rights so he can go back to being funny.
     

    Replies: @Barnard, @Almost Missouri

    Comedians are notoriously smarter than other entertainers.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Almost Missouri


    Comedians are notoriously smarter than other entertainers.
     
    Right. Because much of comedy is noticing.
  69. @Anon
    O/T

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/dear-qallunaat-white-people-inuit-sandra-inutiq-1.5020210

    Lol, this screed would be called fascist if issued by a white person defending their culture.

    h/t KMGVictoria

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Pontius

    Well done Canada, you’ve now created another ‘Quebec’. As if one wasn’t enough.

  70. And in other news that has been memory-holed, the governor, Lt governor, and attorney general of Virginia are still in office. The Jussie hoax may have helped them.

    The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on.

  71. @Almost Missouri
    @New Dealer

    Comedians are notoriously smarter than other entertainers.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Comedians are notoriously smarter than other entertainers.

    Right. Because much of comedy is noticing.

  72. @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous


    Is he a subcontinental?
     
    But, of course! Who better to lecture us Deplorables!

    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/56e3fc7e150000ad000b1cc6.png

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    Slightly OT-

    If we are discussing our future Subcontinental Overlords, I found this interesting.

    http://www.sfweekly.com/news/kamalas-karma/

    “In Indian society we go by birth,” Shyamala explains. “We are Brahmins, that is the top caste. Please do not confuse this with class, which is only about money. For Brahmins, the bloodline is the most important. My family, named Gopalan, goes back more than 1,000 years.”

    By marrying an American, Shyamala was the first person to break the ancient Gopalan bloodline. The union collapsed when Kamala was 5. (“My father is a good guy, but we are not close,” she says.) Shyamala earned a doctorate in endocrinology from Berkeley and went on to become an internationally recognized expert in breast cancer research.

    From the article, Willie Brown not only got Kamala the hook up on two sweet state government positions, but Willie gave her a BMW.

    Speaking of “no show” jobs, we have those Back East as well in Newark The Other City By the Bay.

    Lotta of money in this shit.

  73. @Space Ghost
    "Yellow journalism" is the term for scandalous, sensationalized, exaggerated reporting. Perhaps "Gray journalism" could be the term used for the opposite practice, named in honor of The Gray Lady, whereby an interesting newsworthy story is deliberately ignored or written in such a way as to put the reader to sleep.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @David

    Space, Fog is gray, so it seems appropriate.

  74. @Anon
    O/T

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/dear-qallunaat-white-people-inuit-sandra-inutiq-1.5020210

    Lol, this screed would be called fascist if issued by a white person defending their culture.

    h/t KMGVictoria

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Pontius

    Maybe her vague general case is against whites as a race. But most of her specific examples exude an aroma of SJW, or busybody bleeding heart from the old days.

    I’m guessing her CFL team isn’t the Eskimos.

  75. @Jonathan Mason
    @Pat Wreck


    Saying “ax” in place of “ask” in not only not wrong – it has a proud distinguished Western lineage leading all the way back to Chaucer (but apparently only recently noticed):
     
    This has been well known for a long, long time.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    True, but just the same one of the funniest headlines from the old, formerly funny , Onion was: “African-American neighborhood terrorized by ask murderer”.

  76. @eah
    A wannabe Madame President -- a paragon of reason and restraint.

    https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1090361495119187969

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    eah, Right now Harris, Biden, Sanders et. al. are having back up warning horns installed in their asses. Beep. Beep. Beep.

  77. @Anon
    O/T

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/dear-qallunaat-white-people-inuit-sandra-inutiq-1.5020210

    Lol, this screed would be called fascist if issued by a white person defending their culture.

    h/t KMGVictoria

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Pontius

    Ridiculous. Nunavut has a murder rate that rivals Central America, domestic violence and incest at a level to make Caligula blush, and the locals spend ungodly amounts of money on smuggled alcohol. This lady could start there.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    It's the white man's fault you know.

    YT must behave like Boxer the Horse.

  78. Congratulations, Steve….well, done.

    It is not even spring yet, but I am envious of my friends who are ice-fishing!

  79. @DPG
    Nothing infuriates me more than the disingenuousness of the press. They hold themselves out as if they’re an irreplaceable institution, the only arbiters worthy of filtering the flood of events that take place each day. Deep down, they’re well aware of their own biases, and yet when forced into self-reflection, their typical response is to become even haughtier. They deserve every jeer of “fake news” that’s come their way during the Trump administration.

    This guy Deb is a classic example. It’s been clear for a few days now that Jussie’s story is falling apart. The circumstances were sketchy from the beginning (two white men in the middle of a polar vortex at 2 am hunting down a famous black actor and declaring Chicago to be “maga country”), and once the suspects were personally connected to the actor, it was game, set, match. Yet the NYT reporter, pinnacle of the profession, can’t possibly connect the dots for the readers. Instead the new facts merely “fueled social media speculation” that Jussie’s story isn’t true. Disingenuous, disingenuous, disingenuous.

    I don’t know if Gray Journalism will catch on, but we definitely need a term for it. Fake News is considered to be outright untruths, but the much more common form of media bias is lies of omission. That’s the truly nefarious fake news, because most people have no way of noticing it. Getting a term into the public lexicon will help raise awareness.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D

    Getting a term into the public lexicon will help raise awareness.

    I think in his post Steve almost used the phrase “managed news.” That could work.

    It’s true, however, that there are many different techniques for creating biased news that don’t involve outright factual misstatements.

    Indeed, it all starts with the biased selection of what stories to cover in the first place.

    The NYT, for example, daily scours the twitter feeds and crime blotters of the nation looking for any story with a white perp. and a black vic. — because that’s the only crime that is newsworthy to them.

    They only occassionally trap themselves into reporting on black crime when they build up a story in the belief that they have a Great White Defendant, but then he turns out to be Black after all (as in the Houston shooting of a few weeks ago).

    It’s no wonder that NYT readers can believe that Blacks are being oppressed by daily KKK attacks.

    • Replies: @Pontius
    @Hypnotoad666

    Is it just me, or did anyone else never hear the term "fake news" until the day after the 2016 election? It's almost like someone threw a light switch. To me, it seemed like a desperate rear guard action to explain why none of the polls were giving Trump any chance of winning.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Hypnotoad666

    In 2008, John Edwards had to drop his presidential campaign when it was exposed that he had fathered a child with a woman he had put on his campaign staff and with whom he was having an extra-marital affair. Readers of the National Enquirer had known about the scandal for months, but faithful readers of the New York Times must have been bewildered when Edwards dropped out of the race because the "newspaper of record" had never deigned to mention it.

  80. Dave Chappelle lives in rural Ohio. He knows the real MAGA country. Maybe The Left should listen to him?
    .

    .

  81. @Hypnotoad666
    @Buffalo Joe


    no mention that Biden, Sanders, Harris et. al. wished it were true.
     
    Do you suppose they will release statements saying "this is a great day for America as we have learned that white Americans are not as racist and homophobic as we were led to believe."

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Hypno, Hmm, more likely they’ll say blacks have a right to call “Wolf.”

  82. @utu
    @PhysicistDave

    Grand Jury? Why do they need Grand Jury? That's not a good news.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @sayless, @sayless

    utu, The local DA is ultra lib, almost anti cop, so maybe you wash your hands by giving it to a GJ for an indictment.

  83. Or this is a case of us being very careful in a criminal case and only dealing with known facts, given how many journalists have gotten things wrong on this story

    They got it wrong instantaneously, so naturally they’ll want to be very slow in getting it right.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  84. @Corvinus
    "Update: Just now on Sunday evening..."

    And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/02/17/us/ap-us-empire-cast-member-attack.html

    "Eventually, Deb mentions that the two bodybuilder bros are “of Nigerian descent".

    Which is true, not "Fake News". Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW's, love the quibbling.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe, @Colin Wright, @ic1000

    Corvinus is kind of funny at #3 and #4, upbraiding Sailer by noting

    > And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    Link to an AP (not a NYT) story on the NYT website.

    Not to worry, AP wants to engage in Gray Journalism right along with Big Brother.

    In paragraph 5, we finally get “Smollett, who is black and gay, has said he was physically attacked last month by two masked men shouting racial and anti-gay slurs and ‘This is MAGA country!’”

    Not “two masked white men,” because race is a social construct and/or it’s not relevant to the story, although Smollett being black is. Or something.

    Continuing with the Fake News theme, we arrive at paragraph 7. “Smollett’s lawyers said late Saturday that the actor felt ‘victimized’ by reports that he played a role in the assault, adding that, ‘Nothing is further from the truth and anyone claiming otherwise is lying.’”

    “Huh?,” the dedicated reader mumbles. “What’s he talking about? What reports?” Sadly, finishing the article offers little insight. Paragraphs 8-20 do reveal that two raceless brothers were questioned by the cops after returning from Nigeria. And also that Smollett went ahead with a West Hollywood show because he couldn’t let the attackers win. Brave Jussie!

    Why oh why do people mock the Prestige Press? It’s a mystery!

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @ic1000

    Nicely put.

    Even though it's about leaving things out, what you refer to as Gray Journalism must take more effort by more people. The ideal was once to report the Five W's, clearly and concisely. Now, stories that counter the Narrative have to be carefully worded, like the brief of a sleazy lawyer arguing a weak case.

    Can anyone tell us whether and how this is addressed in the colleges teaching Journalism?

  85. What the hell does “of Nigerian descent” even mean? They are Nigerian. Would The NY Times say Smollet is of American descent?

    • Replies: @Tusk
    @Ibound1

    In Australia, whenever sudanese gangs commit crimes the media dutifully reports it as "African-appearing persons" as if there is a possibility that they're not African.

  86. (By the way, I apologize for the immense number of your comments that have piled up in my moderation inbox over the last 24 hours.)

    Ah, no worries. I figured it was just me…

  87. @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Ridiculous. Nunavut has a murder rate that rivals Central America, domestic violence and incest at a level to make Caligula blush, and the locals spend ungodly amounts of money on smuggled alcohol. This lady could start there.

    Replies: @Anon

    It’s the white man’s fault you know.

    YT must behave like Boxer the Horse.

  88. @Sane Left Libertarian
    The exact same group of SJW that fell head over heels for the Jazmine Barnes hoax, and with the same fervor. Anyone who questioned this preposterous story was pummeled with abuse, epithets, and banishment from left or Dem forums, and will receive even more hostility now that it's been verified as a hoax.

    David Cole just wrote that whichever party can cut ties with its nutty fringe - the GOP with the religious nuts or the Dems with Shaun King's mob - would have a clear advantage. I don't see it happening in my ever-diminishing lifetime though.

    Replies: @Icy Blast, @JimDandy, @PhysicistDave

    “Left-Libertarian” is both a contradiction in terms and a euphemism for “Marxist Losing His Religion.”

  89. @Anon
    O/T

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/dear-qallunaat-white-people-inuit-sandra-inutiq-1.5020210

    Lol, this screed would be called fascist if issued by a white person defending their culture.

    h/t KMGVictoria

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Pontius

    CBC has gone off the SJW deep end lately. They were always smug “progressives” but there is almost no pretense of objectivity anymore. It has been overrun by “____ studies” graduates. I used to listen to CBC radio driving to work until I realized one week that every day had begun with an interview of some aggrieved newcomer whinging about the unfairness and structural blah-blah blighting our society.

    It is articles like the Inuk woman interview that always makes me chuckle when people gleefully point out that the majority of university grads are women nowadays. As one guy on YouTube describes them, they are the ladies in open toed shoes writing up the hurt feelings reports on the shop floor.

  90. @Ibound1
    What the hell does “of Nigerian descent” even mean? They are Nigerian. Would The NY Times say Smollet is of American descent?

    Replies: @Tusk

    In Australia, whenever sudanese gangs commit crimes the media dutifully reports it as “African-appearing persons” as if there is a possibility that they’re not African.

  91. @Hypnotoad666
    @DPG


    Getting a term into the public lexicon will help raise awareness.
     
    I think in his post Steve almost used the phrase "managed news." That could work.

    It's true, however, that there are many different techniques for creating biased news that don't involve outright factual misstatements.

    Indeed, it all starts with the biased selection of what stories to cover in the first place.

    The NYT, for example, daily scours the twitter feeds and crime blotters of the nation looking for any story with a white perp. and a black vic. -- because that's the only crime that is newsworthy to them.

    They only occassionally trap themselves into reporting on black crime when they build up a story in the belief that they have a Great White Defendant, but then he turns out to be Black after all (as in the Houston shooting of a few weeks ago).

    It's no wonder that NYT readers can believe that Blacks are being oppressed by daily KKK attacks.

    Replies: @Pontius, @Harry Baldwin

    Is it just me, or did anyone else never hear the term “fake news” until the day after the 2016 election? It’s almost like someone threw a light switch. To me, it seemed like a desperate rear guard action to explain why none of the polls were giving Trump any chance of winning.

  92. @Meretricious
    What makes this story particularly vile is that it reminds us that blacks have no problem lying about whites to get their gibs. Disgusting

    Replies: @Svigor

    Well, half-black half-Jews, anyway.

  93. Guess who wins out of this whole blown to absurd proportions circus? maybe the nutjob leftists/intersectional/cultural marxists get taken down a notch but there will be another Dylan Root to blow the logic fuses in their brains again. The media wins. Nothing like a good old race incident to get every chimp on both side jumping up and down, flailing their arms, and throwing shit at each other. Makes for good ad revenues on the clicks and eyes on the rube tube. that aside, its been fun watching this real time comedy play out.

    Reckon hes gonna get written out of the script now.

  94. @Hypnotoad666
    @DPG


    Getting a term into the public lexicon will help raise awareness.
     
    I think in his post Steve almost used the phrase "managed news." That could work.

    It's true, however, that there are many different techniques for creating biased news that don't involve outright factual misstatements.

    Indeed, it all starts with the biased selection of what stories to cover in the first place.

    The NYT, for example, daily scours the twitter feeds and crime blotters of the nation looking for any story with a white perp. and a black vic. -- because that's the only crime that is newsworthy to them.

    They only occassionally trap themselves into reporting on black crime when they build up a story in the belief that they have a Great White Defendant, but then he turns out to be Black after all (as in the Houston shooting of a few weeks ago).

    It's no wonder that NYT readers can believe that Blacks are being oppressed by daily KKK attacks.

    Replies: @Pontius, @Harry Baldwin

    In 2008, John Edwards had to drop his presidential campaign when it was exposed that he had fathered a child with a woman he had put on his campaign staff and with whom he was having an extra-marital affair. Readers of the National Enquirer had known about the scandal for months, but faithful readers of the New York Times must have been bewildered when Edwards dropped out of the race because the “newspaper of record” had never deigned to mention it.

  95. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    The National Enquirer is a legitimate newspaper, unlike the Backward.

    The paper of record in New York City is the New York Post, in Washington it’s the Washington Times. That people insist it’s the other way around means they are, well, backwards.

    You have to love a paper with headlines like “Bezos Exposes Pecker” and “Ike Beats Tina To Death”.

  96. @Hypnotoad666
    @Clyde

    From the Gateway Pundit article:


    Despite all of the reports from police sources that Jussie Smollett staged the hate crime, his lawyers pushed back in a statement late Saturday night calling the Chicago cops liars.

    Jussie Smollett’s attorneys, Todd S. Pugh and Victor P. Henderson, released a statement late Saturday night insisting the alleged MAGA attack that took place on January 29th in the subfreezing temps in Chicago was real.

    Jussie Smollett could get up to three years in prison for filing a false police report in the state of Illinois.
     
    Publicly calling the cops liars might not have been the best move here.

    The only way Smollett gets out of this is if the national Democrats decide the story needs to go away so that they pressure the local DA to quickly give a deal for probation, or something like that.

    Replies: @M. Hartley, @Clyde

    The only way Smollett gets out of this is if the national Democrats decide the story needs to go away so that they pressure the local DA to quickly give a deal for probation, or something like that.

    Yep. They’ll plea-bargain it down to something like “temporary confusion due to toxic systemic racism” and his sentence will be to go on a national speaking tour. That’s all that anyone will remember of this whole affair.

  97. @Clyde
    TMZ and the UK Daily Mail have been good on this hate hoax. Contrast them with what comes from the fakir news babu at the NY Times. And the latest and greatest from TMZ is that this whole affair is going to the Grand Jury.

    TMZ:
    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We're told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.
    We're told when police raided the home of the 2 brothers they found magazines with pages torn out, and authorities are now trying to determine if the missing pages are connected to the threatening letter that was sent to Jussie 8 days before the alleged attack.

    Our sources say early on they asked Jussie if he'd sign complaints against the 2 men who attacked him and he was clear that he would. But, when he found out the 2 brothers were the ones in custody we're told he said he knew them, felt bad for them and declined to sign the complaints.

    Replies: @anon

    NPR has been the worst. There has been radio silence on the whole affair. They did mention Smollett on Sunday, in reference to his donations to HCBU’s. Of course, nothing about the hate hoax.

  98. @Hypnotoad666
    @Clyde

    From the Gateway Pundit article:


    Despite all of the reports from police sources that Jussie Smollett staged the hate crime, his lawyers pushed back in a statement late Saturday night calling the Chicago cops liars.

    Jussie Smollett’s attorneys, Todd S. Pugh and Victor P. Henderson, released a statement late Saturday night insisting the alleged MAGA attack that took place on January 29th in the subfreezing temps in Chicago was real.

    Jussie Smollett could get up to three years in prison for filing a false police report in the state of Illinois.
     
    Publicly calling the cops liars might not have been the best move here.

    The only way Smollett gets out of this is if the national Democrats decide the story needs to go away so that they pressure the local DA to quickly give a deal for probation, or something like that.

    Replies: @M. Hartley, @Clyde

    You might have something there. This is a national embarrassment for racist Dems, there is an incentive for powerful Dems outside of Illinois to exert pressure on the Chicago DA to let Jussie off easy and quickly bury this affair.

  99. @Space Ghost
    "Yellow journalism" is the term for scandalous, sensationalized, exaggerated reporting. Perhaps "Gray journalism" could be the term used for the opposite practice, named in honor of The Gray Lady, whereby an interesting newsworthy story is deliberately ignored or written in such a way as to put the reader to sleep.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @David

    Hoar journalism has a nice sound.

  100. @Sane Left Libertarian
    The exact same group of SJW that fell head over heels for the Jazmine Barnes hoax, and with the same fervor. Anyone who questioned this preposterous story was pummeled with abuse, epithets, and banishment from left or Dem forums, and will receive even more hostility now that it's been verified as a hoax.

    David Cole just wrote that whichever party can cut ties with its nutty fringe - the GOP with the religious nuts or the Dems with Shaun King's mob - would have a clear advantage. I don't see it happening in my ever-diminishing lifetime though.

    Replies: @Icy Blast, @JimDandy, @PhysicistDave

    That sounds like a really pathetic copout. What power or influence do the Republican “religious nuts” have anymore except when it comes to absolutely legitimate positions–keeping boys from showering with the girls in high school, pointing out that late term abortions are murder, and so on.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @JimDandy

    I wish The Religious Right had enough political power to help bring Chick-fil-A to San Francisco, but unfortunately Social Justice Warriors are a much more powerful political bloc than they are.

    Replies: @Marty, @JimDandy

  101. Anon[997] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s time to start thinking about motive. That’s not clear.

    — Smollett was about to be written out of Empire? That’s been put forward and Fox has denied it, but anyone who works in an organization knows that before people get laid off there is often a foreshadowing of the coming event. Somehow people pick up on stuff that isn’t official.

    — Empire’s ratings were falling. I posted the ratings from last year here a week or so back.

    New album and a concert. Maybe he wanted to call attention to that.

    None of these are really satisfying to me, however, considering the risk.

    Here’s an idea:

    I get the impression that many blacks and other minorities want to be the victims of hate. Even as (or because?) racism is falling to nearly zero in society, it’s importance rises. Racial slights that would bring an eyeroll ten or twenty years ago cause physical illness.

    Racism and supposed white supremacy is the Zeitgeist, and if you want to feel fully alive and important in this era, you need to have been the victim of it. Like people who volunteered for the armed services during WWII or marched against the Vietnam War, young people today want to be involved and to be part of their era’s historic (fake) struggle, and that means getting attacked by white cops or barbecue Beckys or MAGA hat-wearing white rednecks.

    But you can go to a dozen Trump rallies with your smartphone’s camera recording while wearing a Hillary shirt, and find that nobody pays much attention to you. You can participate in protest rallies and nobody throws a punch: Whatever happened to those Proud Boys, anyway?

    It can be very frustrating. At some point the victim manqué class just has to take things into their own hands and concoct a hate hoax. I mean, you can’t really blame them.

    Anyway, that’s my theory, a sort of Stolen Valor.

    On college campus I think you have other factors, like making an excuse for skipping a test you can’t pass because you are not qualified to take the class anyway. Or getting various WE-DEMAND!! demands approved by the adminstration.

    The hardest to understand for me is fake rapes. Rape has gone from being a scarlet letter, a warning to guys that you’re damaged goods and will be a neurotic, weepy basket case for the rest of your life, to being a mark of honor, someone to be worshipped. This is only partly due to the redefinition of rape to encompass sex with a guy who didn’t call the next day.

    • Agree: fish
  102. @Vinteuil
    @PhysicistDave

    Does a False Police Report - which seems to be all they can get this guy on - rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?

    Replies: @newrouter, @Mr McKenna, @PhysicistDave

    Mitchell Dutz, 18, was sentenced to three years in Illinois state prison for fabricating claims that three black men stole a car.

    Just know he’s having a fine time with all the black men in the Pen.

  103. @Vinteuil
    @PhysicistDave

    Does a False Police Report - which seems to be all they can get this guy on - rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?

    Replies: @newrouter, @Mr McKenna, @PhysicistDave

    Vinteuil asked me:

    Does a False Police Report – which seems to be all they can get this guy on – rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?

    I don’t know — you’d have to ask a lawyer (but see the other responses by newrouter and Mr. McKenna).

    My guess is that they are trying to get our man Jussie’s attention and that a plea deal will be worked out.

    Right now, though, I am glad I am not Jussie Smollett!

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @PhysicistDave

    "Right now, though, I am glad I am not Jussie Smollett!"

    I was glad I wasn't him three months ago, long before I knew who he was.......

    , @Anon
    @PhysicistDave

    Grand juries are used by city attorneys when they want to avoid being called racist. The decision is made by a panel of citizens after seeing evidence and hearing testimony.

    In fact, grand juries are puppets for the city attorney, who controls everything they see.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

  104. @Clifford Brown
    @Anonymous

    So we are all supposed to believe that Lee Daniels, the man in white shirt on the right, is not using gay themed Empire to get some action?

    What is the black gay version of #MeToo?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Maybe Jussie can Change The Conversation by #MeTooing Lee Daniels (director of “Precious”) by detailing just how he auditioned for the role?

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Steve Sailer

    In our current political climate you can not MeToo Gay Left Wing Black men because they are identity politics royalty. They are too untouchable because they are major intersectionality on steroids.

  105. @Sane Left Libertarian
    The exact same group of SJW that fell head over heels for the Jazmine Barnes hoax, and with the same fervor. Anyone who questioned this preposterous story was pummeled with abuse, epithets, and banishment from left or Dem forums, and will receive even more hostility now that it's been verified as a hoax.

    David Cole just wrote that whichever party can cut ties with its nutty fringe - the GOP with the religious nuts or the Dems with Shaun King's mob - would have a clear advantage. I don't see it happening in my ever-diminishing lifetime though.

    Replies: @Icy Blast, @JimDandy, @PhysicistDave

    “Sane Left Libertarian” wrote:

    David Cole just wrote that whichever party can cut ties with its nutty fringe – the GOP with the religious nuts or the Dems with Shaun King’s mob – would have a clear advantage

    I find all religions quite batty indeed, but, as far as I can tell, the main influence the “religious nuts” in the GOP have on American politics is to encourage US government slavishness towards Israel, and they are hardly alone in that!

    Oh, one other influence on American politics: they serve as a punching bag and unifying force for the Left — the “deplorables,” those clinging to their “guns and religion,” and all the rest.

    My parents made me attend an evangelical Christian church as a child: I did not enjoy the experience, I refused to join the church and be baptized, and I really disliked being told for years how I deserved to rot in Hell for all eternity. Unlike most Leftists, I actually have reason to resent what you call “religious nuts.”

    But, you know, most of these people are actually pretty decent neighbors and fellow citizens: I liked most of the people at my parents’ church, even while I disagreed intensely with their religion.

    Why do Leftists, most of whom have little or no personal contact with evangelicals, hate them so much? Reminds me of the Nazi attitude towards the Jews: some real psychological pathology in both cases.

    And, as a libertarian myself, I would certainly not call myself a “Left Libertarian” (or, for that matter, a “Rightist libertarian”). I’m okay with “Jeffersonian libertarian” or “Thoreauist libertarian.”

    Why identify with a group, the Left, that has brought so much suffering, oppression, and mass murder to the human race?

  106. Given the traumatic & devious nature of this attack, it’s understandable that the victim did not report every detail precisely.

    Leave it to White supremacist trash to nitpick minutiae as the character of a highly respected & successful Black man is cruelly mocked.

    • Troll: PhysicistDave
  107. @JimDandy
    @Sane Left Libertarian

    That sounds like a really pathetic copout. What power or influence do the Republican "religious nuts" have anymore except when it comes to absolutely legitimate positions--keeping boys from showering with the girls in high school, pointing out that late term abortions are murder, and so on.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    I wish The Religious Right had enough political power to help bring Chick-fil-A to San Francisco, but unfortunately Social Justice Warriors are a much more powerful political bloc than they are.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Jefferson

    If Prop 13 goes down you'll have no trouble finding C-F-A.

    , @JimDandy
    @Jefferson

    That's exactly my point.

  108. @Steve Sailer
    @Clifford Brown

    Maybe Jussie can Change The Conversation by #MeTooing Lee Daniels (director of "Precious") by detailing just how he auditioned for the role?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    In our current political climate you can not MeToo Gay Left Wing Black men because they are identity politics royalty. They are too untouchable because they are major intersectionality on steroids.

  109. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @ic1000
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus is kind of funny at #3 and #4, upbraiding Sailer by noting

    > And apparently earlier from today, here is another story from the New York Times page.

    Link to an AP (not a NYT) story on the NYT website.

    Not to worry, AP wants to engage in Gray Journalism right along with Big Brother.

    In paragraph 5, we finally get "Smollett, who is black and gay, has said he was physically attacked last month by two masked men shouting racial and anti-gay slurs and 'This is MAGA country!'"

    Not "two masked white men," because race is a social construct and/or it's not relevant to the story, although Smollett being black is. Or something.

    Continuing with the Fake News theme, we arrive at paragraph 7. "Smollett's lawyers said late Saturday that the actor felt 'victimized' by reports that he played a role in the assault, adding that, 'Nothing is further from the truth and anyone claiming otherwise is lying.'"

    "Huh?," the dedicated reader mumbles. "What's he talking about? What reports?" Sadly, finishing the article offers little insight. Paragraphs 8-20 do reveal that two raceless brothers were questioned by the cops after returning from Nigeria. And also that Smollett went ahead with a West Hollywood show because he couldn't let the attackers win. Brave Jussie!

    Why oh why do people mock the Prestige Press? It's a mystery!

    Replies: @anonymous

    Nicely put.

    Even though it’s about leaving things out, what you refer to as Gray Journalism must take more effort by more people. The ideal was once to report the Five W’s, clearly and concisely. Now, stories that counter the Narrative have to be carefully worded, like the brief of a sleazy lawyer arguing a weak case.

    Can anyone tell us whether and how this is addressed in the colleges teaching Journalism?

  110. @anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    "Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD."

    Many here, including Mr. Sailer, seem to romanticize police -- particularly in big cities -- as the savvy, tough but fair, heroic figures depicted on Dragnet.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    anonymous[340] wrote to me:

    Many here, including Mr. Sailer, seem to romanticize police — particularly in big cities — as the savvy, tough but fair, heroic figures depicted on Dragnet.

    Well… I have not often heard the Chicago PD referred to as “fair,” much less “heroic”!

    But “tough”? Yeah, I suppose so.

    I think you are trying to shift the conversation from whether our man Jussie is a righteous dude to whether the Chicago PD are righteous dudes.

    It seems that Jussie is not a righteous dude. And, for him to get the rather tough dudes at the Chicago PD really angry at him was probably unwise.

    Personally, I do not care that much what happens to Jussie as long as the truth comes out.

    I do think that the reaction of the ruling elite will be, let us say, illuminating.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    I'm not trying to "shift" anything. I'm enjoying every minute of the self-destruction of the Establishment stenographers, as you can see from my other comment just upthread from yours.

    But -- and not to single you out -- I have "noticed" something that seemed worthy of observation. It strikes me as a strain of the romanticization of the armed forces, "first responders," and other bureaucrats wearing uniforms, one of the biggest mind shackles in Exceptionalia.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  111. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    @anonymous

    anonymous[340] wrote to me:


    Many here, including Mr. Sailer, seem to romanticize police — particularly in big cities — as the savvy, tough but fair, heroic figures depicted on Dragnet.
     
    Well... I have not often heard the Chicago PD referred to as "fair," much less "heroic"!

    But "tough"? Yeah, I suppose so.

    I think you are trying to shift the conversation from whether our man Jussie is a righteous dude to whether the Chicago PD are righteous dudes.

    It seems that Jussie is not a righteous dude. And, for him to get the rather tough dudes at the Chicago PD really angry at him was probably unwise.

    Personally, I do not care that much what happens to Jussie as long as the truth comes out.

    I do think that the reaction of the ruling elite will be, let us say, illuminating.

    Replies: @anonymous

    I’m not trying to “shift” anything. I’m enjoying every minute of the self-destruction of the Establishment stenographers, as you can see from my other comment just upthread from yours.

    But — and not to single you out — I have “noticed” something that seemed worthy of observation. It strikes me as a strain of the romanticization of the armed forces, “first responders,” and other bureaucrats wearing uniforms, one of the biggest mind shackles in Exceptionalia.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @anonymous

    anonymous[340] wrote to me:


    But — and not to single you out — I have “noticed” something that seemed worthy of observation. It strikes me as a strain of the romanticization of the armed forces, “first responders,” and other bureaucrats wearing uniforms, one of the biggest mind shackles in Exceptionalia.
     
    Well, there is a wide variety of people who comment on Sailer's blog -- leftists, rightists, Jews, anti-Semites, etc. -- so you can probably find some example of any perspective.

    Speaking for myself, I can say that most of the cops, soldiers, etc. that I have known personally were okay guys; on the other hand, I am more than a bit appalled at the willingness of people in uniform to "follow orders." I actually think cops should simply refuse to enforce unjust laws or, in general, enforce the self-serving orders of the ruling elite. Similarly, I think soldiers should simply refuse to follow orders when they are ordered to attack still another just-invented "enemy."

    I'm pretty sure some other commenters here share those attitudes.

    You know, the prevailing attitude in the country is that we should thank the guys and gals in uniform "for their service." I do not share that attitude, but no doubt many people here do. But do you really have any evidence that this attitude is any more prevalent among Sailer's commenters than among the general public?

    Yeah, too many people in the USA do romanticize people in uniform. But, it is a general problem of our society (maybe of almost all societies).

    Replies: @anonymous

  112. @PhysicistDave
    @Vinteuil

    Vinteuil asked me:


    Does a False Police Report – which seems to be all they can get this guy on – rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?
     
    I don't know -- you'd have to ask a lawyer (but see the other responses by newrouter and Mr. McKenna).

    My guess is that they are trying to get our man Jussie's attention and that a plea deal will be worked out.

    Right now, though, I am glad I am not Jussie Smollett!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Anon

    “Right now, though, I am glad I am not Jussie Smollett!”

    I was glad I wasn’t him three months ago, long before I knew who he was…….

  113. @PhysicistDave
    Apparently, our man Jussie may be in real trouble -- Grand Jury.

    TMZ has an "Excliusive" headlined "Jussie Smollett Case to Go to Grand Jury ... Doubt MAGA Comment Because Trump Folks Don't Watch 'Empire'."

    The lede:

    A grand jury will hear the Jussie Smollett case early next week ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

    Law enforcement sources connected to the investigation tell TMZ, the 2 brothers who were arrested and then released are staying somewhere around the Loop in downtown Chicago under the watchful eye of police so no one gets to them. We're told cops especially want to make sure Jussie does not contact the brothers.
     
    I think the Chicago PD are annoyed. Very annoyed.

    Perhaps it is not wise to annoy the Chicago PD.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Vinteuil, @anonymous, @utu, @Bill Jones

    What’s a TMZ?

  114. @eah
    Frontlash.

    https://twitter.com/FredTJoseph/status/1096988418716901376

    Replies: @eah

  115. @Inquiring Mind
    @Corvinus

    Nigerian descent?

    Is this like Eddie Murphy's addressing the audience of Saturday Nigh Live, in his most affected and serious voice and commenting, "Coming from a predominantly black family, I cannot recall any relative having the name Buckwheat."

    Replies: @sayless

    I didn’t have a relative named “Alfalfa.”

  116. @DPG
    Nothing infuriates me more than the disingenuousness of the press. They hold themselves out as if they’re an irreplaceable institution, the only arbiters worthy of filtering the flood of events that take place each day. Deep down, they’re well aware of their own biases, and yet when forced into self-reflection, their typical response is to become even haughtier. They deserve every jeer of “fake news” that’s come their way during the Trump administration.

    This guy Deb is a classic example. It’s been clear for a few days now that Jussie’s story is falling apart. The circumstances were sketchy from the beginning (two white men in the middle of a polar vortex at 2 am hunting down a famous black actor and declaring Chicago to be “maga country”), and once the suspects were personally connected to the actor, it was game, set, match. Yet the NYT reporter, pinnacle of the profession, can’t possibly connect the dots for the readers. Instead the new facts merely “fueled social media speculation” that Jussie’s story isn’t true. Disingenuous, disingenuous, disingenuous.

    I don’t know if Gray Journalism will catch on, but we definitely need a term for it. Fake News is considered to be outright untruths, but the much more common form of media bias is lies of omission. That’s the truly nefarious fake news, because most people have no way of noticing it. Getting a term into the public lexicon will help raise awareness.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Jack D

    It’s a mystery I tell you, a mystery. A deepening mystery.

    I predicted that true believers would hang on until the bitter end. Here’s an example, just posted today:

    Smollett claims that he was the victim of a brutal hate crime, and until the police confirm otherwise I stand with my initial belief in him. I don’t do it to save face for myself, I do it to stand in solidarity with the numerous victims of LGBTQ hate crimes and homicides—reported and unreported—around the world.

    And I will not be shamed into turning my back on them.

    http://www.newnownext.com/i-dont-regret-believing-jussie-smollett-and-i-wont-apologize/02/2019/

    (Not a site that I normally frequent, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but was taken there by the link saying that Chappelle had condemned poor Jussie despite the lack of definitive proof that he was lying (that it’s all still a “deep mystery” according to the NY Times). A very deep mystery. I don’t know that we will ever get to the bottom of this deep, deep mystery. It may remain, like the Loch Ness Monster and the fate of Amelia Earhart, one of those very deep mysteries of history that are never resolved, but I think it’s time to turn the page on this and move on to whatever horrible thing Trump has done today, wouldn’t you agree?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "(Not a site that I normally frequent, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but was taken there by the link saying that Chappelle had condemned poor Jussie despite the lack of definitive proof that he was lying"

    It has already been proven that Jussie Smollett is lying hence why Chicago police is no longer classifying him as a victim.

  117. @Jack D
    @DPG

    It's a mystery I tell you, a mystery. A deepening mystery.

    I predicted that true believers would hang on until the bitter end. Here's an example, just posted today:


    Smollett claims that he was the victim of a brutal hate crime, and until the police confirm otherwise I stand with my initial belief in him. I don’t do it to save face for myself, I do it to stand in solidarity with the numerous victims of LGBTQ hate crimes and homicides—reported and unreported—around the world.

    And I will not be shamed into turning my back on them.
     
    http://www.newnownext.com/i-dont-regret-believing-jussie-smollett-and-i-wont-apologize/02/2019/

    (Not a site that I normally frequent, not that there's anything wrong with that, but was taken there by the link saying that Chappelle had condemned poor Jussie despite the lack of definitive proof that he was lying (that it's all still a "deep mystery" according to the NY Times). A very deep mystery. I don't know that we will ever get to the bottom of this deep, deep mystery. It may remain, like the Loch Ness Monster and the fate of Amelia Earhart, one of those very deep mysteries of history that are never resolved, but I think it's time to turn the page on this and move on to whatever horrible thing Trump has done today, wouldn't you agree?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “(Not a site that I normally frequent, not that there’s anything wrong with that, but was taken there by the link saying that Chappelle had condemned poor Jussie despite the lack of definitive proof that he was lying”

    It has already been proven that Jussie Smollett is lying hence why Chicago police is no longer classifying him as a victim.

  118. @utu
    @PhysicistDave

    Grand Jury? Why do they need Grand Jury? That's not a good news.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @sayless, @sayless

    I didn’t have a relative named “Alfalfa.”

  119. @utu
    @PhysicistDave

    Grand Jury? Why do they need Grand Jury? That's not a good news.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @sayless, @sayless

    Grand juries sit for several weeks and vote simply on whether or not to indict based on evidence presented, and they hear many cases. A special jury won’t be empaneled for this case.

    This is bad news for Smollet because the grand jury doesn’t hear evidence unless someone has been arrested and charged. They’re drawing up the indictments now, probably. He’ll be arrested this week, probably.

    I’m starting to feel sorry for him, because he’s a dumb thirty-six-year-old kid, and he has seen so many hate hoaxes come and go with a pass, no serious consequences for anybody, he thought this one would sail on by too.

    If previous hoaxes had been publicized and prosecuted he might have thought twice.

    It was a lousy plan, and too soon after The Great Covington Smirk.

    Maybe he’ll implicate Kamala, that would be nice.

  120. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    @George Washington

    George Washington wrote:


    Mr. Smollett must do jail time for this, if proven to be a hoax.
     
    Non-violent offense --- my guess is he gets probation. It would be nice though if he had to reimburse the city of Chicago (and maybe Cook County and the state of Illinois??) for whatever the investigation has cost. Must be well into six figures.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Non-violent offense — my guess is he gets probation. It would be nice though if he had to reimburse the city of Chicago (and maybe Cook County and the state of Illinois??) for whatever the investigation has cost. Must be well into six figures.

    Do Trump voters have a cause of action against him for defamation?

  121. My minor contribution to the discussion …

    The Russians did this. The Russians are turning everyone against Jussie Smollett through their control of the Internet. This is clear … another Russian conspiracy. Smollett is innocent. This was a setup … a calculated racist and homophobic attack against American blacks and gays.

    The Russians turned the 2016 elections in the United States. They are also responsible for the ongoing measles epidemics in the United States and Great Britain.

    The Russians want Americans to feel bad about themselves. That’s why they do this … as well as all of the other terrible things they do to us. The Russians are satanic. The problem is, they are so effective at what they do that I’m not sure we can do anything about it.

    Regardless, we need to change the context of the Smollett hate hoax into what it really is … another virulent Russian attack on the United States. Anyone who continues to maintain that Jussie Smollett committed a hate hoax has been “Putinized”.

    We haven’t heard from Tiny Duck. I’m not sure why he doesn’t see any of this.

  122. @anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    I'm not trying to "shift" anything. I'm enjoying every minute of the self-destruction of the Establishment stenographers, as you can see from my other comment just upthread from yours.

    But -- and not to single you out -- I have "noticed" something that seemed worthy of observation. It strikes me as a strain of the romanticization of the armed forces, "first responders," and other bureaucrats wearing uniforms, one of the biggest mind shackles in Exceptionalia.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    anonymous[340] wrote to me:

    But — and not to single you out — I have “noticed” something that seemed worthy of observation. It strikes me as a strain of the romanticization of the armed forces, “first responders,” and other bureaucrats wearing uniforms, one of the biggest mind shackles in Exceptionalia.

    Well, there is a wide variety of people who comment on Sailer’s blog — leftists, rightists, Jews, anti-Semites, etc. — so you can probably find some example of any perspective.

    Speaking for myself, I can say that most of the cops, soldiers, etc. that I have known personally were okay guys; on the other hand, I am more than a bit appalled at the willingness of people in uniform to “follow orders.” I actually think cops should simply refuse to enforce unjust laws or, in general, enforce the self-serving orders of the ruling elite. Similarly, I think soldiers should simply refuse to follow orders when they are ordered to attack still another just-invented “enemy.”

    I’m pretty sure some other commenters here share those attitudes.

    You know, the prevailing attitude in the country is that we should thank the guys and gals in uniform “for their service.” I do not share that attitude, but no doubt many people here do. But do you really have any evidence that this attitude is any more prevalent among Sailer’s commenters than among the general public?

    Yeah, too many people in the USA do romanticize people in uniform. But, it is a general problem of our society (maybe of almost all societies).

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    I agree with you, right down the line. And yes, I'm sure that this group is less smitten with authority than is the country as a whole.

    Thanks for the discussion.

  123. @PhysicistDave
    @Vinteuil

    Vinteuil asked me:


    Does a False Police Report – which seems to be all they can get this guy on – rise to the level of calling a Grand Jury?
     
    I don't know -- you'd have to ask a lawyer (but see the other responses by newrouter and Mr. McKenna).

    My guess is that they are trying to get our man Jussie's attention and that a plea deal will be worked out.

    Right now, though, I am glad I am not Jussie Smollett!

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Anon

    Grand juries are used by city attorneys when they want to avoid being called racist. The decision is made by a panel of citizens after seeing evidence and hearing testimony.

    In fact, grand juries are puppets for the city attorney, who controls everything they see.

    • Replies: @Father Coughlin
    @Anon

    But grand jury decisions can be fair.. when they are given all the evidence and not abused for a ham sandwich indictment.

  124. @Jefferson
    @JimDandy

    I wish The Religious Right had enough political power to help bring Chick-fil-A to San Francisco, but unfortunately Social Justice Warriors are a much more powerful political bloc than they are.

    Replies: @Marty, @JimDandy

    If Prop 13 goes down you’ll have no trouble finding C-F-A.

  125. @Clifford Brown
    @Anonymous

    Yes, true believer in the sense that he will stand with The Narrative until the bitter end and is not particularly concerned with the facts.


    "Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons,"
     
    Sopan Deb has spent the last few weeks rather deftly reporting on the Jussie Affair without disclosing the obvious fraud to his readership because to expose the fraud would be detrimental to The Narrative. Sopan's role is to obfuscate the truth so that his audience does not figure things out. His role is to maintain The Narrative at all costs.

    Sopan's musings over the weekend, after weeks of obvious and intentional obfuscation, bring him to this Star Trek quote where Spock does not want Kirk to show any affection (a.k.a. weakness) for him while in front of the Klingons (THE ENEMY).

    We are the Klingons.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

    Yes, well said.

  126. @PhysicistDave
    @anonymous

    anonymous[340] wrote to me:


    But — and not to single you out — I have “noticed” something that seemed worthy of observation. It strikes me as a strain of the romanticization of the armed forces, “first responders,” and other bureaucrats wearing uniforms, one of the biggest mind shackles in Exceptionalia.
     
    Well, there is a wide variety of people who comment on Sailer's blog -- leftists, rightists, Jews, anti-Semites, etc. -- so you can probably find some example of any perspective.

    Speaking for myself, I can say that most of the cops, soldiers, etc. that I have known personally were okay guys; on the other hand, I am more than a bit appalled at the willingness of people in uniform to "follow orders." I actually think cops should simply refuse to enforce unjust laws or, in general, enforce the self-serving orders of the ruling elite. Similarly, I think soldiers should simply refuse to follow orders when they are ordered to attack still another just-invented "enemy."

    I'm pretty sure some other commenters here share those attitudes.

    You know, the prevailing attitude in the country is that we should thank the guys and gals in uniform "for their service." I do not share that attitude, but no doubt many people here do. But do you really have any evidence that this attitude is any more prevalent among Sailer's commenters than among the general public?

    Yeah, too many people in the USA do romanticize people in uniform. But, it is a general problem of our society (maybe of almost all societies).

    Replies: @anonymous

    I agree with you, right down the line. And yes, I’m sure that this group is less smitten with authority than is the country as a whole.

    Thanks for the discussion.

  127. @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @Corvinus


    Which is true, not “Fake News”. Which means the two dudes are black. But I suppose the Alt Right, much like SJW’s, love the quibbling.
     
    A statement can be technically accurate, yet still intended to mislead. When we're supposedly dealing with a story about ersatz Windy City Klansmen, and it turns out the actual miscreants were Black dudes, that's the sort of thing a journalist would mention.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    You appear to have the patience of a saint.

  128. @Jefferson
    @JimDandy

    I wish The Religious Right had enough political power to help bring Chick-fil-A to San Francisco, but unfortunately Social Justice Warriors are a much more powerful political bloc than they are.

    Replies: @Marty, @JimDandy

    That’s exactly my point.

  129. By Sopan Deb, Feb. 17, 2019

    The strange case of the “Empire” star Jussie Smollett took another turn

    Weird, strange, wild, wacky, random.. just one of those odd-ball cases that are neither here nor there….. the kind of story they put at the end of a TV newscast.

  130. @Anon
    @PhysicistDave

    Grand juries are used by city attorneys when they want to avoid being called racist. The decision is made by a panel of citizens after seeing evidence and hearing testimony.

    In fact, grand juries are puppets for the city attorney, who controls everything they see.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

    But grand jury decisions can be fair.. when they are given all the evidence and not abused for a ham sandwich indictment.

  131. @anon
    If folks like the Koch brothers were so inclined, they could start big New York and D.C. papers to challenge the Times and the Post. The papers could mock the NYT and Post when they omit the truth and pertinent details endlessly.

    As a matter of fact, if they could simply pay for a parody front page paperlavailable for free left at subways that mocked the NYT an the Post in the Steve Sailer style of quoting in boxes and critiquing the quotes to literal scorn, they could throw shade on the Establishment organs' honesty even with their most blindly faithful readers...........but Republican money people just wont do these things.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Because the Republican money people thrive on identity politics, too.

  132. Interestingly, Mencius Moldbug independently came up with the term Gray Journalism back in 2007, and his definition fits nicely with Space Ghost’s:

    One fact that every American learns in high school is that there used to be something called yellow journalism. If yellow journalism is with us today, it only exists in the sort of papers which no one of any quality reads, like the New York Post, or the Daily Mail, or Juggs.

    Clearly the New York Times would stand out in this list, so clearly it is not yellow journalism. It would certainly dispute the characterization, and I certainly agree. But in order to compare the two, we need a parallel terminology. So I humbly propose gray journalism for the latter.

    What is the difference between yellow journalism and gray journalism? Who invented gray journalism, when, and why? And is gray journalism—which its practitioners call responsible journalism, objective journalism, and so on—best defined as official journalism?

    One interesting possibility is that the transition from yellow to gray journalism is identical to the transition from ochlocracy to mediocracy. Under this theory, the grayification of journalism is a sort of Gleichschaltung, a coordination or alignment. Yellow journalism, such as that practiced by Hearst, Pulitzer, etc., used its political power to serve a variety of divergent private interests which did not always coincide with the interests of the State. Gray journalism has learned its Hegelian manners, and invariably serves and upholds the State.

  133. @Clifford Brown
    Sopan Deb sounds like the name of a minor bounty hunter in The Empire Strikes Back.

    Replies: @Pjay, @Anonymous, @ZenitFan

    Cousin of Boba Fett, niece of Jango Fett.

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