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From the New Yorker:

Why Has R. Kelly’s Career Thrived Despite Sexual-Misconduct Allegations?
By Jim DeRogatis 5:01 A.M.

“If even a fraction of the allegations against Kelly are true, his continued success hinges on the invisibility of black women and girls in America,” Attiah says. “As long as black women are seen to be a caste not worthy of care and protection, his actions will not receive widespread outcry . . . . The saga of Robert Kelly says more about America than it does about him.”

The women in R. Kelly’s “cult” are all African-American. …

One of the women in the “cult” has said that she is “happy where I am at.” None of the others have spoken publicly, but the parents continue to contact me regularly, asking why, given the current public conversation, Kelly’s history, and what they call his ongoing abuse, the media isn’t focussing more on him. Even seventeen years of reporting hasn’t been enough to turn as bright a spotlight on Kelly as the one exposing many others, because no one, it seems, matters less in our society than young black women.

 
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  1. Or it could be that the women don’t testify against him…

    Yes he’s a total dirt bag and they are probably brainwashed, but criminal procedure is criminal procedure.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @anon


    Yes he’s a total dirt bag and they are probably brainwashed, but criminal procedure is criminal procedure.
     
    That, and Stockholm Syndrome is not retained for insanity pleas, as rich privileged pretty white girl Patty Hearst established.
  2. Fat Derogatis covered this topic before.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Anon

    What the hell did Daniel Tosh do to anyone?

    Replies: @Anon

  3. Nobody cares about R. Kelly’s transgressions because he’s some black guy operating in a distant bubble far removed from anything white people can relate to.

    Now, here’s the Good Rats’ Injun Joe:

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Trelane

    Also, his female fans are into this shi*.

    , @guest
    @Trelane

    He was a successful recording artist at one point, especially with that I Believe I Can Fly song from Michael Jordan's Space Jam. So white people could identify with him for a while.

    No one identifies with that Trapped in the Closet stuff, including black people. Though I find it hilarious.

    For some reason, the R. Kelly scandal didn't stick with the white public. We were aware, if we paid attention to tabloid news. But it didn't become a big thing. It was a thang with his people. Could be because of the race of the victims, but I don't know. You never know what will stick.

    , @SMK
    @Trelane

    R. Kelly hasn't been charged with sex-crimes because nobody cares about black female "victims," who are "invisible, " just like Tawana Brawley and Chrystal Magnum. Yes, the girls in Rotherham, most of them pubescent, many as young as 10 and 11, who were abducted, enslaved for years, rapes, gang-raped, tortured, beaten, urinated upon, doused with petrol and threatened with immolation, dangled by the ankles off balcnies, etc., by misogynistic subhuman Muslim savages and degenerates, were all black. The myriads of women and girls who were assaulted in public, sexually and non-sexually, in Cologne and Berlin and other German cities by gangs of Muslim offal and carrion were all black. The myriads of Swedish women and girls who have been raped and gang-raped by Muslim savages and predators are all black.

    The real story is the "invisibility" and systemic coddling of black male criminals. That's why Kelly won't be charged with sex-crimes or serve a day in jail in a country in which a Nevada women, convicted at trial in 2010, was sentenced to life in prison for alleged "forcing" a 13-year-old male to touch her breast and a women teacher in Georgia was sentenced to 40-years in prison, under a plea-bargain, for having sex with a 14-year-old male student. I could go on and on and on with other examples.

  4. the invisibility of black women and girls in America

    Gabourey Sidibe, poster child.

    Next up on the to-do list, the invisibility of eighteen wheelers and billboards on the highway, the invisibility of modern architecture in Dubai, and the invisibility of rainbows in the Castro District.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Reg Cæsar

    Don't they just wish Rachel Jeantel was invisible? Or at least inaudible.

  5. R. Kelly’s career has thrived despite sexual misconduct allegations for precisely the same reason a majority of black women approved of OJ’s handling of that roving wench, his wife. Black women would never allow their men to suffer the indignity and degradation of being enchained under White men’s Law, no matter how egregious the offense.

  6. No sex involved (yet), but here’s the arrogance of the American music scene nutshelled in a single picture:

    http://findingcain.blogspot.com/2016/01/dude-sets-up-entire-recording-studio-at-starbucks.html

    • Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    @Reg Cæsar

    What an insufferable poseur.

    Sorry our host Steve S. has to live there in southern California among all that.

    Skewering the phonies and poseurs of the area isn't quite in his wheelhouse no matter how worthy or fascinating a topic it is. Thanks for sharing this silly bit...

    Starbucks unique sales proposition and big innovation over the European cafes that actually originally invented the espresso drink was to make that "better" kind of coffee available in a paper cup "to go" like one might get something quick and convenient at McDo's.

    Couldn't these insufferable jerks much more easily get that cup of coffee "to go" and take it home to work at their desks? Rather than taking their whole workstation "to go" unpacking it and spreading out to set up camp at a coffee shop...?

    Are these people just so pathetic, lonely and desperate for attention that they have to "perform" their act of creative & knowledge work for an involuntary audience at Starbux?

    There are those who write, create and do in order to add value to our economy and society.

    Then there are those who go to Starbux to pretend...

  7. Tasty? (The Good Rats fan base is NYC, Long Island and Rochester NY)

  8. Careful, or the New Yorker might notice the misogynous lyrics in rap/hip-hop music.

  9. Karen Attiah is a Ghanaian-American journalist currently residing in Washington D.C. — it’s quite possible that this woman has literally never done a useful day’s work in her life.

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    this woman has literally never done a useful day's work in her life

    MUST WATCH -- watch the short video (approx 1m): 'that whole con, that whole scheme, that whole shakedown is threatened'.

  10. …because no one, it seems, matters less in our society than young black women.

    Well… no one with so little respect for themselves matters that much to others.

  11. Jim DeRogatis has been riding this hobby horse for fifteen or more years. R. Kelly is a serial rapist and in Chicago nobody cares. The Nation of Islam has his back.

    Hey, look at the movie Old School. Early in the movie Snoop Dogg is there with his hype man of the time, Bishop Don Magic Juan, a leading pimp. His line was about 1/3 black but the real money is white girls, which if you know anything about pimping is more akin to slavery than anything else. But Snoop is cool…

  12. @eah
    Karen Attiah is a Ghanaian-American journalist currently residing in Washington D.C. -- it's quite possible that this woman has literally never done a useful day's work in her life.

    https://twitter.com/KarenAttiah/status/935504153689935872

    Replies: @eah

    this woman has literally never done a useful day’s work in her life

    MUST WATCH — watch the short video (approx 1m): ‘that whole con, that whole scheme, that whole shakedown is threatened’.

  13. There are no bigger defenders of bad behaving black men than other black men and black women. Black men behave the way they behave, and treat black women the way they treat them, because other black men condone it and black women let them.

    I still remember when the whole Chris Brown-Rihanna saga broke out. They got into an argument in the car and he beat her so bad she had to skip the Grammy’s. All over the web people were expressing outrage, but all the blacks were busy defending Brown, black men blamed Rihanna for being a ho who deserved her beating for copping an attitude (she reportedly questioned him about other women), while black women wailed, “we don’t need another black man in jail, they just need to go to counseling!” Simply boggles the mind.

    This whole sexual assault scandal will blow off the roof if we start getting into black entertainers, politicians and especially pro athletes. So far the only ones busted are those who assaulted white women, like Bill Cosby, and most likely John Conyers. The white women came forward. Russell Simmons has now been accused of rape by a second woman, the first accuser, model Keri Claussen Khalighi, is white. The second, Jenni Lumet, is part black and granddaughter of Lena Horne. God only knows how many black women he has assaulted. I’m betting on Jay Z to be next. And Beyonce will defend him to the death.

    It’s amazing the author of this article could come to the conclusion he came to, that more black men like R. Kelly aren’t getting exposed because our society does not value black women. How could we when so many of them simply shut up and went away after getting paid off, while others are busy defending their black men. If the mainstream media starts exposing black men, there will be huge BLM protests everywhere claiming whites are again trying to bring down blacks, and black women will be the ones with the megaphones making the loudest claims.

    • Replies: @Redman
    @Orwellian State

    Can’t remeber if it was “Tally’s Corner” or another ethnography about American blacks written in the 60s-70s I read in college. But the upshot of sociology in that era was that black women expected their men to beat them if they got out of line. If they didn’t, it was a sign that they didn’t care.

    At the time, I found this amazing. But 25 years later, I can see how this is possible in a certain cultural framework.

  14. 30 million copies of To Kill a Mockingbird have been lavishly deployed throughout American classrooms over the past several generations to condition us to never accuse black men of sexual misbehavior. (Regardless of the author’s original intent). Now you’re blaming us for having learned the lesson?

  15. The easiest way to be accused of racism is to call attention to the shortcomings of a successful black person.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Arclight

    R. Kelly has taught us all a valuable lesson: Don't piss them off.

    Replies: @anon

  16. “Separating art from artist”, what a joke. Only the brain dead left would consider rap music “art”, especially the filthy trash spewing out of R. Kelly’s mouth. Having some crap music in the background while a gold chain sunglasses wearing black dude spews his filthy angry rant is not “art”, it is depravity.

    Brain dead Hollywood has been selling depravity as art for far too long, and rap music is at the forefront of that depravity, along with porn. Rap has turned white kids into ghetto trash since Vanilla Ice. It needs to end with R. Kelly. Parents need to stop their kids from listening to this crap, and the media needs to stop calling it “art”.

  17. @Arclight
    The easiest way to be accused of racism is to call attention to the shortcomings of a successful black person.

    Replies: @Ivy

    R. Kelly has taught us all a valuable lesson: Don’t piss them off.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Ivy


    Don’t piss them off.
     
    I see what you did there...
  18. but the parents continue to contact me regularly, asking why… the media isn’t focusing more on him.

    Why did they raise such moronic children addicted to trashy pop culture?
    And what is THEIR idea of culture and values?

    Pass the BUCK and pass the buck.

  19. @Trelane
    Nobody cares about R. Kelly's transgressions because he's some black guy operating in a distant bubble far removed from anything white people can relate to.

    Now, here's the Good Rats' Injun Joe:

    https://youtu.be/VSWUX-uQtuc

    Replies: @Anon, @guest, @SMK

    Also, his female fans are into this shi*.

  20. Michael Jackson and director Brett Ratner dancing to R. Kelly’s Ignitition Remix. Man, if only Bryan Singer popped out of the trunk, this would be perfect.

    • Replies: @anonymouslee
    @Clifford Brown

    "R. Kelly has done a lot of terrible shit. I mean, 14 years old..but then again, Remix to Ignition!"

  21. The easiest way to be accused of racism is to call attention to the shortcomings of a successful black person.

    Yeah this. In particular, this story is probably worth quite a bit of attention that it hasn’t gotten yet from our gracious host. My recollection is that over a period of decades R Kelly has been a white whale for DeRogatis, for the most part against his will.

    DeRogatis was a pop/rock music critic in Chicago, and had a professional responsibility to cover Kelly. And he discovered the pattern of abuse from a long time ago, like 1992 or something, and saw that it was well known to parties in the music establishment and law enforcement. And he’s been dismayed that the pattern has continued over years and decades despite being more or less public knowledge, to the point where he’s basically sacrificed his own career to get the relevant info in print.

  22. R Kelly is just following in the footsteps of the honorable Dr. Martin Luther King Junior.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/11/the-truth-about-martin-luther-king-jr/#more-77452

    • Replies: @Orwellian State
    @Anon

    Eye opening. I had no idea Martin Luther King Jr. was a such a despicable man, orgies with prostitutes paid for with grants from the Ford Foundation, unbelievable, and all in the FBI files. The whole communist tie thing was a revelation as well. The man was basically a puppet of his 2 Jewish lawyers. Communist Jews were behind the civil rights movement, big surprise. Not. Blacks could never organize anything so big on their own. Behind every angry black there is a Jew.

    This was all in the FBI files, and the lamestream media acted like they didn't see a thing. Amazing.

    Replies: @guest, @Anonymous

  23. I believe I am not the only one who is clean out of shits to give about what these people do to each other.

  24. @Clifford Brown
    Michael Jackson and director Brett Ratner dancing to R. Kelly's Ignitition Remix. Man, if only Bryan Singer popped out of the trunk, this would be perfect.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJ1weLN7wc

    Replies: @anonymouslee

    “R. Kelly has done a lot of terrible shit. I mean, 14 years old..but then again, Remix to Ignition!”

  25. Actually there are, and have been a lot of these cults in America and rarely have they been lead by Blacks. We just said farewell to the leader of one of these a few days ago. I could name others but it’s getting late.

    • Replies: @Wally
    @anony-mouse

    Manson was arrested, tried, convicted, and jailed.

    Next.

    Replies: @anony-mouse

  26. @Reg Cæsar
    No sex involved (yet), but here's the arrogance of the American music scene nutshelled in a single picture:

    http://findingcain.blogspot.com/2016/01/dude-sets-up-entire-recording-studio-at-starbucks.html

    Replies: @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    What an insufferable poseur.

    Sorry our host Steve S. has to live there in southern California among all that.

    Skewering the phonies and poseurs of the area isn’t quite in his wheelhouse no matter how worthy or fascinating a topic it is. Thanks for sharing this silly bit…

    Starbucks unique sales proposition and big innovation over the European cafes that actually originally invented the espresso drink was to make that “better” kind of coffee available in a paper cup “to go” like one might get something quick and convenient at McDo’s.

    Couldn’t these insufferable jerks much more easily get that cup of coffee “to go” and take it home to work at their desks? Rather than taking their whole workstation “to go” unpacking it and spreading out to set up camp at a coffee shop…?

    Are these people just so pathetic, lonely and desperate for attention that they have to “perform” their act of creative & knowledge work for an involuntary audience at Starbux?

    There are those who write, create and do in order to add value to our economy and society.

    Then there are those who go to Starbux to pretend…

  27. @Anon
    R Kelly is just following in the footsteps of the honorable Dr. Martin Luther King Junior.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/11/the-truth-about-martin-luther-king-jr/#more-77452

    Replies: @Orwellian State

    Eye opening. I had no idea Martin Luther King Jr. was a such a despicable man, orgies with prostitutes paid for with grants from the Ford Foundation, unbelievable, and all in the FBI files. The whole communist tie thing was a revelation as well. The man was basically a puppet of his 2 Jewish lawyers. Communist Jews were behind the civil rights movement, big surprise. Not. Blacks could never organize anything so big on their own. Behind every angry black there is a Jew.

    This was all in the FBI files, and the lamestream media acted like they didn’t see a thing. Amazing.

    • Replies: @guest
    @Orwellian State

    "a revelation as well"

    I had heard the rumors, so I wasn't surprised. Plus, the whole civil rights movement as thinly veiled sex romp is an old story. Stokely Carmichael famously said the only position for women in SNCC is prone.

    What threw me for a loop, and this was years ago, was what a blatant plagiarist he was, and how casually it was dismissed. Look, I don't believe in academic integrity or unicorns, and I wouldn't expect a major establishment figure's reputation to be brought down by such a thing. It's just the fact that MLK's sham doctorate and dummied-up speeches are something "everybody knew," without telling me.

    The plagiarism stuff came out in the 90s conclusively, if not before. It was a national news story. People didn't deny it so much as excuse it (pathetically). But I didn't really know about it until the 2010s, because I wasn't aware enough to remember. And no one really talks about it, though they still know.

    I take plagiarism seriously, but it's not so serious that it oughtta utterly ruin everyone's reputation. Coleridge, for instance, was an inveterate plagiarist, but he was also wrote great original poetry. MLK didn't write anything great on his own, probably, though collections of his writings sell. But that's because of his historical profile, not the writings themselves.

    My point, I guess, is that the plagiarism thing brought home to me how much you can get away with by being the right kind of person. Cheat on you thesis and you can still be called "doctor" after your death if people are willing to say "voice sharing" or whatever is part of African culture. So I wasn't surprised when I also learned he sinned sexually and politically.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Orwellian State

    The perfidy of MLK has been well documented for decades-in publications and on websites that are declared racist and unbecoming of proper truthiness. I remember the old Spotlight had a several page article on it, I think even the ardently nonracist John Birch Society even wrote some of it in American Opinion / The New American magazine. And martinlutherking dot org has been online for at least twenty years in its present form.

    Everything on the website is true. The extensive comments from the books of Ralph Abernathy and David Garrow are correct, I've read both books.

    Everyone on the left who is involved with MLK knows all of this stuff, and no one denies its accuracy. King was a plagiarist, a serial adulterer and purchaser of prostitution, and moreover he used funds from churches and the Ford Foundation to pay for sex, booze, and possibly drugs.

    But, it doesn't matter. They do not care and you had better not care, or you are a racist.

  28. I like his podcast about music (though the other guy is better) but Jim Derogatis has a lot of the worst tendencies of pop culture journalists and/or music critics. Elitism, SJW nonsense, and a faux outsider thing going on.

    Fun fact, he dedicated a song they played on the podcast in honor of Alicia Machado when that broke last year. Often on the show that’s saved for musicians who have just died but her terrible ordeal at the hands of Trump apparently rose to the occasion. I also remember him crying on air when reminiscing about having met Obama once before (he’s based in Chicago).

    He’s been on R Kelly for years and for him it does seem to be a feminist crusade. He doesn’t quite know what to do with the black angle so I guess this is the best he can come up with

  29. @Trelane
    Nobody cares about R. Kelly's transgressions because he's some black guy operating in a distant bubble far removed from anything white people can relate to.

    Now, here's the Good Rats' Injun Joe:

    https://youtu.be/VSWUX-uQtuc

    Replies: @Anon, @guest, @SMK

    He was a successful recording artist at one point, especially with that I Believe I Can Fly song from Michael Jordan’s Space Jam. So white people could identify with him for a while.

    No one identifies with that Trapped in the Closet stuff, including black people. Though I find it hilarious.

    For some reason, the R. Kelly scandal didn’t stick with the white public. We were aware, if we paid attention to tabloid news. But it didn’t become a big thing. It was a thang with his people. Could be because of the race of the victims, but I don’t know. You never know what will stick.

  30. @Reg Cæsar

    the invisibility of black women and girls in America
     
    Gabourey Sidibe, poster child.

    Next up on the to-do list, the invisibility of eighteen wheelers and billboards on the highway, the invisibility of modern architecture in Dubai, and the invisibility of rainbows in the Castro District.

    Replies: @guest

    Don’t they just wish Rachel Jeantel was invisible? Or at least inaudible.

  31. @Orwellian State
    @Anon

    Eye opening. I had no idea Martin Luther King Jr. was a such a despicable man, orgies with prostitutes paid for with grants from the Ford Foundation, unbelievable, and all in the FBI files. The whole communist tie thing was a revelation as well. The man was basically a puppet of his 2 Jewish lawyers. Communist Jews were behind the civil rights movement, big surprise. Not. Blacks could never organize anything so big on their own. Behind every angry black there is a Jew.

    This was all in the FBI files, and the lamestream media acted like they didn't see a thing. Amazing.

    Replies: @guest, @Anonymous

    “a revelation as well”

    I had heard the rumors, so I wasn’t surprised. Plus, the whole civil rights movement as thinly veiled sex romp is an old story. Stokely Carmichael famously said the only position for women in SNCC is prone.

    What threw me for a loop, and this was years ago, was what a blatant plagiarist he was, and how casually it was dismissed. Look, I don’t believe in academic integrity or unicorns, and I wouldn’t expect a major establishment figure’s reputation to be brought down by such a thing. It’s just the fact that MLK’s sham doctorate and dummied-up speeches are something “everybody knew,” without telling me.

    The plagiarism stuff came out in the 90s conclusively, if not before. It was a national news story. People didn’t deny it so much as excuse it (pathetically). But I didn’t really know about it until the 2010s, because I wasn’t aware enough to remember. And no one really talks about it, though they still know.

    I take plagiarism seriously, but it’s not so serious that it oughtta utterly ruin everyone’s reputation. Coleridge, for instance, was an inveterate plagiarist, but he was also wrote great original poetry. MLK didn’t write anything great on his own, probably, though collections of his writings sell. But that’s because of his historical profile, not the writings themselves.

    My point, I guess, is that the plagiarism thing brought home to me how much you can get away with by being the right kind of person. Cheat on you thesis and you can still be called “doctor” after your death if people are willing to say “voice sharing” or whatever is part of African culture. So I wasn’t surprised when I also learned he sinned sexually and politically.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @guest

    What is shocking about King is not that he was a plagiarist, but that he was so blatant about it and that so much of his work is _nothing but_ plagiarism.

    It's a given that he had high level sponsorship from Marxist entities throughout his career. What is surprising is that given their considerable resources (look at the Highlander Folk School, for instance) that they could not be bothered to have a proper dissertation ghostwritten for him, or at least for the melange he produced to have been appropriately sheep dipped so that entire sentences could not be located intact in other well known papers. (This was before computers, so simple use of grep, for instance, could not be used to sniff out duplicated regular expressions. Still, his advisers had to have had more than just vague suspicions of what was going on.)

    Likewise, we would know nothing of his sexual pecadilloes had his Marxist handlers provided him with the class of hooker who is well paid not just for sex, but for silence afterwards. (His propensity to beat them up probably would have made this tough, admittedly.)

    My guess is that to his Marxist handlers, he was just another exemplar of TNB and so they didn't care very much. Therefore, I say, perhaps we should call out these people-a few of whom are still alive and causing mischief to this day-as being the real racists here.

  32. @Anon
    Fat Derogatis covered this topic before.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNw3E_CzEVw

    https://youtu.be/KBpGh8fXFyc

    https://youtu.be/iOow9OZgq9o?t=25m49s

    Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax

    What the hell did Daniel Tosh do to anyone?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    He said rape was funny, and they made him apologize.
    Also he prefers good-looking women.

  33. The main reason no one cares about R.Kelly is that the moral standards for musicians are extremely low. We already know about all sorts of truly terrible behaviour by musicians, which they have never bothered to hide. I think VH1 even had series of specials on the 100 most shocking moments in rock n’ roll. Standards are especially low for hard rock and hip hop.

    Stand up comedians like Louis CK and Al Franken might have similarly weathered all this if they hadn’t set themselves up as moralistic scolds of others. Heck, CK might yet make a comeback, especially if he can refrain from moralism. Standards for comedians are still pretty low.

  34. @Orwellian State
    There are no bigger defenders of bad behaving black men than other black men and black women. Black men behave the way they behave, and treat black women the way they treat them, because other black men condone it and black women let them.

    I still remember when the whole Chris Brown-Rihanna saga broke out. They got into an argument in the car and he beat her so bad she had to skip the Grammy's. All over the web people were expressing outrage, but all the blacks were busy defending Brown, black men blamed Rihanna for being a ho who deserved her beating for copping an attitude (she reportedly questioned him about other women), while black women wailed, "we don't need another black man in jail, they just need to go to counseling!" Simply boggles the mind.

    This whole sexual assault scandal will blow off the roof if we start getting into black entertainers, politicians and especially pro athletes. So far the only ones busted are those who assaulted white women, like Bill Cosby, and most likely John Conyers. The white women came forward. Russell Simmons has now been accused of rape by a second woman, the first accuser, model Keri Claussen Khalighi, is white. The second, Jenni Lumet, is part black and granddaughter of Lena Horne. God only knows how many black women he has assaulted. I'm betting on Jay Z to be next. And Beyonce will defend him to the death.

    It's amazing the author of this article could come to the conclusion he came to, that more black men like R. Kelly aren't getting exposed because our society does not value black women. How could we when so many of them simply shut up and went away after getting paid off, while others are busy defending their black men. If the mainstream media starts exposing black men, there will be huge BLM protests everywhere claiming whites are again trying to bring down blacks, and black women will be the ones with the megaphones making the loudest claims.

    Replies: @Redman

    Can’t remeber if it was “Tally’s Corner” or another ethnography about American blacks written in the 60s-70s I read in college. But the upshot of sociology in that era was that black women expected their men to beat them if they got out of line. If they didn’t, it was a sign that they didn’t care.

    At the time, I found this amazing. But 25 years later, I can see how this is possible in a certain cultural framework.

  35. Didn’t Kesha accuse producer Dr. Luke of various kinds of sexual assault and abuse?

  36. @anony-mouse
    Actually there are, and have been a lot of these cults in America and rarely have they been lead by Blacks. We just said farewell to the leader of one of these a few days ago. I could name others but it's getting late.

    Replies: @Wally

    Manson was arrested, tried, convicted, and jailed.

    Next.

    • Replies: @anony-mouse
    @Wally

    Jones, Hubbard, Raniere, Jeffs, Theriault, Raelians, Solar Temple, Koresh

  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Orwellian State
    @Anon

    Eye opening. I had no idea Martin Luther King Jr. was a such a despicable man, orgies with prostitutes paid for with grants from the Ford Foundation, unbelievable, and all in the FBI files. The whole communist tie thing was a revelation as well. The man was basically a puppet of his 2 Jewish lawyers. Communist Jews were behind the civil rights movement, big surprise. Not. Blacks could never organize anything so big on their own. Behind every angry black there is a Jew.

    This was all in the FBI files, and the lamestream media acted like they didn't see a thing. Amazing.

    Replies: @guest, @Anonymous

    The perfidy of MLK has been well documented for decades-in publications and on websites that are declared racist and unbecoming of proper truthiness. I remember the old Spotlight had a several page article on it, I think even the ardently nonracist John Birch Society even wrote some of it in American Opinion / The New American magazine. And martinlutherking dot org has been online for at least twenty years in its present form.

    Everything on the website is true. The extensive comments from the books of Ralph Abernathy and David Garrow are correct, I’ve read both books.

    Everyone on the left who is involved with MLK knows all of this stuff, and no one denies its accuracy. King was a plagiarist, a serial adulterer and purchaser of prostitution, and moreover he used funds from churches and the Ford Foundation to pay for sex, booze, and possibly drugs.

    But, it doesn’t matter. They do not care and you had better not care, or you are a racist.

  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @guest
    @Orwellian State

    "a revelation as well"

    I had heard the rumors, so I wasn't surprised. Plus, the whole civil rights movement as thinly veiled sex romp is an old story. Stokely Carmichael famously said the only position for women in SNCC is prone.

    What threw me for a loop, and this was years ago, was what a blatant plagiarist he was, and how casually it was dismissed. Look, I don't believe in academic integrity or unicorns, and I wouldn't expect a major establishment figure's reputation to be brought down by such a thing. It's just the fact that MLK's sham doctorate and dummied-up speeches are something "everybody knew," without telling me.

    The plagiarism stuff came out in the 90s conclusively, if not before. It was a national news story. People didn't deny it so much as excuse it (pathetically). But I didn't really know about it until the 2010s, because I wasn't aware enough to remember. And no one really talks about it, though they still know.

    I take plagiarism seriously, but it's not so serious that it oughtta utterly ruin everyone's reputation. Coleridge, for instance, was an inveterate plagiarist, but he was also wrote great original poetry. MLK didn't write anything great on his own, probably, though collections of his writings sell. But that's because of his historical profile, not the writings themselves.

    My point, I guess, is that the plagiarism thing brought home to me how much you can get away with by being the right kind of person. Cheat on you thesis and you can still be called "doctor" after your death if people are willing to say "voice sharing" or whatever is part of African culture. So I wasn't surprised when I also learned he sinned sexually and politically.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    What is shocking about King is not that he was a plagiarist, but that he was so blatant about it and that so much of his work is _nothing but_ plagiarism.

    It’s a given that he had high level sponsorship from Marxist entities throughout his career. What is surprising is that given their considerable resources (look at the Highlander Folk School, for instance) that they could not be bothered to have a proper dissertation ghostwritten for him, or at least for the melange he produced to have been appropriately sheep dipped so that entire sentences could not be located intact in other well known papers. (This was before computers, so simple use of grep, for instance, could not be used to sniff out duplicated regular expressions. Still, his advisers had to have had more than just vague suspicions of what was going on.)

    Likewise, we would know nothing of his sexual pecadilloes had his Marxist handlers provided him with the class of hooker who is well paid not just for sex, but for silence afterwards. (His propensity to beat them up probably would have made this tough, admittedly.)

    My guess is that to his Marxist handlers, he was just another exemplar of TNB and so they didn’t care very much. Therefore, I say, perhaps we should call out these people-a few of whom are still alive and causing mischief to this day-as being the real racists here.

  39. @Ivy
    @Arclight

    R. Kelly has taught us all a valuable lesson: Don't piss them off.

    Replies: @anon

    Don’t piss them off.

    I see what you did there…

  40. There have been some surprising breaks in the mainstream media iron curtain of silence against powerful members of the media mafia/Lib Leftist Dem elite. It is something similar to Khrushchev era purges of sadistic sexual pervert elites like Levanti Beria.

    In other areas, Silicon Valley is strongly curtailing the freedom of speech of Trump supporters, patriotic immigration activists, opponents of extremist Islam. The Cuckservatives, Conservative Inc are also pissed and joining in the circle accusers defaming regular Americans as beyond the pale “RACISTS”.

    One area where there is some free speech is something called “Every-block” it’s in Chicago and other cities. Posters can post about local issues such as roads, garbage disposal, schools and crime. Since R Kelley has some Chicago connections we can present honest discussion of R Kelley at Every-block.

    I encourage other Unz Review readers to continue speak the truth as they see it, don’t give up but also understand we live in an occupied contrary where dissidents (that’s us) are persecuted.

  41. The Boondocks had a good episode on exactly this subject.

    “Justice will prevail! The judge and jury will do the right thing. I’m telling you, Huey, it’s an open-and-shut case.”
    “…Mr. DuBois, are you fully aware of the extent to which niggas love R. Kelly?”

    Try this link for the episode. It’s not working for me but it might work for you.

  42. I live in the deep south in a city that’s 50% black.

    The idea that America’s black population would have or could have created a civil rights movement is laughable.

  43. @anon
    Or it could be that the women don't testify against him...

    Yes he's a total dirt bag and they are probably brainwashed, but criminal procedure is criminal procedure.

    Replies: @Nico

    Yes he’s a total dirt bag and they are probably brainwashed, but criminal procedure is criminal procedure.

    That, and Stockholm Syndrome is not retained for insanity pleas, as rich privileged pretty white girl Patty Hearst established.

  44. @Trelane
    Nobody cares about R. Kelly's transgressions because he's some black guy operating in a distant bubble far removed from anything white people can relate to.

    Now, here's the Good Rats' Injun Joe:

    https://youtu.be/VSWUX-uQtuc

    Replies: @Anon, @guest, @SMK

    R. Kelly hasn’t been charged with sex-crimes because nobody cares about black female “victims,” who are “invisible, ” just like Tawana Brawley and Chrystal Magnum. Yes, the girls in Rotherham, most of them pubescent, many as young as 10 and 11, who were abducted, enslaved for years, rapes, gang-raped, tortured, beaten, urinated upon, doused with petrol and threatened with immolation, dangled by the ankles off balcnies, etc., by misogynistic subhuman Muslim savages and degenerates, were all black. The myriads of women and girls who were assaulted in public, sexually and non-sexually, in Cologne and Berlin and other German cities by gangs of Muslim offal and carrion were all black. The myriads of Swedish women and girls who have been raped and gang-raped by Muslim savages and predators are all black.

    The real story is the “invisibility” and systemic coddling of black male criminals. That’s why Kelly won’t be charged with sex-crimes or serve a day in jail in a country in which a Nevada women, convicted at trial in 2010, was sentenced to life in prison for alleged “forcing” a 13-year-old male to touch her breast and a women teacher in Georgia was sentenced to 40-years in prison, under a plea-bargain, for having sex with a 14-year-old male student. I could go on and on and on with other examples.

  45. many years ago i resigned from board of JALC after they rented out Dizzy’s for R.Kelly’s drop party of his album about 4 months after a tape emerged of his playing “water games” with what turned out to be an underaged teen.

    reaction i got when i objected was that he wasn’t being prosocuted by cops and he was paying 50k to rent Dizzy’s for the night. I resigned from board, and convinced 4 others do follow me … so they made 50k on a one night rental and losk 500k of board contributions per year

  46. @Wally
    @anony-mouse

    Manson was arrested, tried, convicted, and jailed.

    Next.

    Replies: @anony-mouse

    Jones, Hubbard, Raniere, Jeffs, Theriault, Raelians, Solar Temple, Koresh

  47. @Malcolm X-Lax
    @Anon

    What the hell did Daniel Tosh do to anyone?

    Replies: @Anon

    He said rape was funny, and they made him apologize.
    Also he prefers good-looking women.

  48. Anonymous [AKA "Alyoshi"] says:

    “Kelly’s public image also plays into toxic stereotypes about black men’s sexual appetites, desires, and even intelligence—he is often portrayed as all id, an idiot pop-savant; by his own admission, in “Soulacoasta: The Diary of Me,” he has trouble reading and doing math.”

    Oh, dear, those awful toxic stereotypes! So ignorant!

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