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In the last few years, we’ve all been lectured about how the biggest crisis in K-12 public schools is Segregation: not enough Students of Color go to majority white public schools.

But then there is also the crisis of Integration or Too Many White Students, as the New York Times explained today in an enormously long article about Young Women of Color’s hurt feelings to start off the new decade on a wholly different note from the media obsessions of the last seven years:

In a Homecoming Video Meant to Unite Campus, Almost Everyone Was White

The video was created to show off the University of Wisconsin. Instead, it set off a furor, and a reckoning over what it means to be a black student on campus.

By Julie Bosman, Emily Shetler and Natalie Yahr
Jan. 1, 2020

MADISON, Wis. — The video was just two minutes long: a sunny montage of life at the University of Wisconsin’s flagship campus in Madison. Here were hundreds of young men and women cheering at a football game, dancing in unison, riding bicycles in a sleek line, “throwing the W” for the camera, singing a cappella, leaping into a lake.

“Home is where we grow together,” a voice-over said. “It’s where the hills are. It’s eating our favorite foods. It’s where we can all harmonize as one. Home is Wisconsin cheese curds. It’s welcoming everyone into our home.”

Days before Homecoming Week, the student homecoming committee, tasked with producing the video, posted it online. The outrage was almost instantaneous. Virtually every student in the video was white.

This is the story of a video that galvanized and divided a university plagued by a history of racist incidents, as told by the people who saw it happen. Black students in particular say the homecoming video crystallized a daily fact of life: They feel they are not wanted at the University of Wisconsin, where there are significantly fewer African-Americans per capita than in the state, which is mostly white. This fall, more than 30,000 undergraduates began the school year at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Fewer than 1,000 of them are African-American. …

To students of color, the homecoming video was a glimpse of what they experienced every day as they walked through campus. The video prompted a burst of student activism, an attempt by university officials to educate about diversity and a reckoning over who feels at home at the University of Wisconsin. …

A video would boost the promotional aspect of it all, the students decided, a short, visual ode to school spirit. The committee enlisted student organizations to be filmed — among them Alpha Kappa Alpha, a historically black sorority.

At the end of September, the video was finished and posted on Facebook. No one expected it to be seen very widely.

One evening, a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha noticed that the video had been posted online.

Payton Wade, 21, a senior and member of Alpha Kappa Alpha: We were tagged on Facebook when they said a “thank you” to all of the organizations who participated in the video. And I watched the video and I realized that we weren’t in it.

Olivia Lopez, 22, a senior from Milwaukee who identifies as biracial: People started talking about it Monday, and they actually took it down off their website and their Facebook. But a couple of our peers had screen recorded it so that people could still see it and know what all the uproar was about. …

Olivia Lopez: I was just like, how did they not realize how wrong this is? …

Emilie Cochran, a reporter for The Badger Herald student newspaper who covered the story: It made people uncomfortable, seeing a lot of people who look alike representing the university. And it woke people up, saying, this is actually what our university looks like. …

The video had been deleted for more than a week, but it would not go away.

Copies that students had made were watched on phones in dorms, coffee shops and the student union. Campus newspapers covered the story, and so did The Wisconsin State Journal, in which a headline declared, “UW-Madison Apologizes for Now-Deleted Homecoming Video of Nearly All-White Student Body.” The students of the Homecoming Committee continued with their planned week of events before the homecoming football game, hoping the furor would die down.

Students of color pushed in the other direction. They formed a group called the Student Inclusion Coalition. Their suggestion was to use the upcoming game to address outrage over the video. The administration agreed to help make a new video. This one would feature students of color — and it would be broadcast at halftime.

… The campus woke up to a message, scrawled in black.

Someone had taken a copy of The Daily Cardinal, a student newspaper, and written a message on it in large block letters: “UW 4 WHITES ONLY!”

The newspaper was taped outside Science Hall, a stately red brick building on campus, and it stunned the first people who saw it. The response from the university was swift.

At 6:46 a.m., the @UWMadison Twitter account wrote:

UW stands against hate and racism. We’re aware that, last night, a racist message was posted on a building sign outside Science Hall. We are removing this message and any others and @UWMadisonPolice is investigating.

That morning, more signs were discovered around campus. One read, “UW DON’T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE.” Another read, “I’M TIRED OF HAVING TO TEACH MY TEACHERS.”

Soon, the university released a new statement, which read, in part:

These posters appear now to be part of a coordinated campaign calling attention to experiences of underrepresented students.

Nile Lansana: I think it was poorly executed and poorly worded. I know for me, and it’s not really like this matters, but when I heard about it, I definitely thought that it was a white person doing it. And then when I found out it wasn’t, I was like, O.K., I get where you were.

John Lucas, university spokesman: It was not a hate or bias act. It was more an act of student activism or protest.

We have Hate Hoaxes and also Hate Hysteria (such as when the wind blows over a protected group’s tent or sign or whatever in the middle of the night and it gets blamed on the KKK or the Ghost of Henry Harpending or whatever). But we probably need another category for Hate Cluelessness or Hate Stupidity or whatever in which The Establishment mistakes the kind of anti-white hate that they advocate for anti-black hate.

Like if somebody put up a piece of paper on a public bulletin board reading:

At the U. of Wisconsin-Madison, it’s OK to be white.

It would be a racism … until it was discovered that it was put up by a Student of Color protesting that … it’s OK to be white at the U. of Wisconsin-Madison, at which point it would be stunning and brave.

You know, I’m starting to think this new decade is going to be the same as the old decade: Who? Whom? all the way down…

 
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  1. No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn’t that what’s important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly – even secretly – knew that blacks and browns weren’t as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their “white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC” ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    • Agree: Thulean Friend, Daniel H
    • Disagree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Moses
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You may be right.

    The left has doubled down so many times on its "all races are equal" shibboleth, even a glimmer of truth would bring it all crashing down.

    Times will get even more woke. 2+2 will equal 5, bigots.

    , @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    While I’m sure there are some, I don’t think that most Gen-Xers that feel this way. They are more like Boomers in that regard at least. I assume you are talking about Millenials. And maybe even then there’s some hope they may mellow out as they get older.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    , @Prester John
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Would like to think you're wrong but...wouldn't put money on it. If the next generation takes this as gospel, one can only speculate what the trade-offs will be. If life is a zero sum game, the likelihood is that at the end of THEIR reign---not a whole helluva lot will have changed.

    , @ATBOTL
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    That's true on the left, but at the same, time boomer conservatives are holding back the political right with their myths about "MLK was a conservative" and "I don't see color." Gen X aged conservatives, let alone millennials, are a lot more racially aware. We are heading for direct racial conflict between an openly anti-white left and an openly pro-white right.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @El Dato
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The way things are going, the the Outer Party people will not be looking for "equal outcomes" but for "any outcomes".

    How to run the numbers of you spreadsheet to assure equality if electrical power is down again and hungry peons burn down your sustainable car?

    , @Kronos
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Don’t confuse the teacher’s pet (aka Boomer’s Bitch) with the cool kids in the classroom. The kids will follow the cool ones every single time if given the chance. One Mrs. Boomer is removed, the puppet regime of the student body President will crumble.

    https://youtu.be/4Gm5jNvVSUc

    The “Woke” Millennials are a mix between mercenary grifters and low ability Boomer slaves. Both try to kiss ass to land a decent paying job in the education/public center. Once the Boomers recede from the picture, the wokeness stuff will collapse faster than Howard Dean’s 2004 Presidential bid. Remember, the majority of Millennials are far more concerned about economics than the Boomer culture wars. Trump protectionism and Bernie socialism are powerful brands. Also, the woke Boomers have barely invested any true political/financial assets into any generational successor. The younger nutty people will only last long enough until the boomers die in retirement. You think the average university is going to last through 2035?! Think again.

    https://youtu.be/RwkNnMrsx7Q

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    , @joe862
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I'm gen x and think boomers are a plague of childish idiots. The left-leaning ones are absurdly childish in their dogma and the right-leaning ones are just as bad. I've said for a long time that having boomer parents makes your perception of your parents over time the opposite of what it should be. You're supposed to think you know everything when you're 15 and by the time you're 30 realize your parents knew what they were talking about. If your parents are boomers you thought they were pretty cool when you were 15 and by the time you were 30 couldn't believe what idiots they are. I can't wait for them to be out of the workplace. So many do-nothings who seem to sincerely believe themselves to be hard-working. I could go on and on.

    There's an arc that gen x is on. Whichever way your boomer parents leaned, you were sent out into the world with a head full of childish idiocy. You essentially grew up without adults. You spend a bunch of years with alfred e neumans for authority figures trying to make sense of the world. I don't think it's that easy to tell what gen x thinks.

  2. What did this year’s Howard University homecoming video look like?

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @JimDandy

    An episode of Cops?

    , @Realist
    @JimDandy


    What did this year’s Howard University homecoming video look like?
     
    Here's some examples, enjoy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xIsids0pwk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyhUmkZoIpo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLkVLnATkKo

    If blacks ever want to be taken seriously, they need to lose the dumbass--jigaboo look, action and talk.

    Howard University's mascot is, fittingly, a bison.
    , @bruce county
    @JimDandy

    A court room in Detroit.

  3. This is a racism.

    The students of color have a constitutional right not to lose their flavor by being exposed to so much Caucasianness.

    Next thing you know, they will be discussing the weather.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @william munny


    Emilie Cochran, a reporter for The Badger Herald student newspaper who covered the story: It made people uncomfortable, seeing a lot of people who look alike representing the university. And it woke people up, saying, this is actually what our university looks like. …
     
    So the whole story is that a video accurately represented the student body as being almost entirely White. This triggers the usual robotic social media whining and faux-outrage that White people are actual allowed to exist in large numbers. The New York Times turns this into a book-length article with ad nauseam repetition of SJW nostrums. Deja Vu, all over again.

    But if "Diversity" was really a strength we would be allowed to have a diversity of college demographic choices -- i.e., some White, some non-White, and others mixed in various proportions. That way everyone could chose the mix they preferred and if one or another of these choices was objectively better for education that result would become apparent.

    The one bright spot is that publicizing UW's Whiteness will probably improve recruitment as, regardless of what they may say, most people demonstrably prefer Whiteness to the alternative.
  4. I hope we realize the current “intellectual elite” are cut from the same cloth as the Bolsheviks. This means they will never change. For the most part, they know they are lying.

    How did Stalin deal with his own contradictions? He didn’t stress over them, he just killed those rude enough to point them out.

    Remember, communists always said truth is a bourgeois concept.

    • Agree: Unladen Swallow
  5. Universal idiocy is the current pet rock craze.

    The reasoning of today’s leaders.

    I know my wife parked her car in your kitchen, but that does not give you the right to complain.

  6. It was not a hate or bias act. It was more an act of student activism or protest.

    Cheeseheads are ok. The protesters are probably FIBs or FBFCs, the dumbest of the dumb, except for administrators.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Back1

    FIBs I know, but FBFCs? Something about the biggest city in Illinois?

  7. A goal both necessary, and achievable:

    Zero White students in public schools
    Zero White teachers in public schools
    Zero excuses for public schools.

    • Agree: brandybranch
  8. Laura Meckler and Kate Rabinowitz

    then

    Julie Bosman, Emily Shetler and Natalie Yahr

    Is journolist still around?

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Pop Warner
    @newrouter

    I wonder if the New York Times goes to local JCCs to scout for talent or if they wait for a board member to have a niece/friend of someone at temple to fill a position

  9. Black students in particular say the homecoming video crystallized a daily fact of life: They feel they are not wanted at the University of Wisconsin, where there are significantly fewer African-Americans per capita than in the state, which is mostly white.

    OK.

    “Let me make it nice and clear dear….
    …the exit is right there…”

  10. OT:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/01/jack-wilson-white-settlement-shooting-hero-column/2784355001/

    “Of course, that wouldn’t matter to the churchgoers of that community of roughly 18,000 residents, right?”

    Those damned hicks! How dare they prioritize not getting massacred above our feelings?!

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @nebulafox

    Well the guy trying to commit the crime shouldn't have been in prison, at any rate.

  11. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:

    Is there anything outside of a 1950’s Pat Boone video that would be regarded as more cornball white than the official school pep activities in the week before Homecoming at a flagship university?

    I bet there wasn’t one UW black student no matter how white suburban their upbringing might have been, who would be unaware that taking part in said activities without a major air of cool detachment would result in the loss of serious blackness points among their black peers.

    It’s like being apoplectic about not being invited to a wedding you were dreading you might have to go to.

  12. integration is a failure–what we should start discussing is terminating the black goody machine subsidized by nonblacks

    • Agree: brandybranch
  13. Badgers (sadly cucked by Ducks today) are relatively diverse by the state’s standards; only Parkside and Milwaukee have more diverse UW campuses.

    Leading Wisconsin’s diversity tables are what are probably (PL will correct me if wrong) the two most prestigious private schools in the state, Beloit and Lawrence. I wonder how much of their diversity is imported, and paying full price to boot.

    2020 Most Diverse Colleges in Wisconsin

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Reg Cæsar

    Row the boat, Reg!

    Beloit is a terrible place. It pains me to realize how much money I paid for my son to attend. At least he had a pretty good lacrosse career there. The college is pretty white, but the town has become much more vibrant over the past 20-30 years.
    I’d guess a lot of the diversity is full price Asian.

    , @Paleo Liberal
    @Reg Cæsar

    I would not include Beloit College as one of the two most prestigious private schools in Wisconsin. Marquette and the Milwaukee School of Engineering, both in Milwaukee, probably rank higher.

    That being said, you are correct a certain amount of the diversity in the better schools in Wisconsin is due to out of state students. And yes, that includes some full load paying Asian students.

    Replies: @Ganderson

  14. @JimDandy
    What did this year's Howard University homecoming video look like?

    Replies: @JMcG, @Realist, @bruce county

    An episode of Cops?

    • Agree: Realist
  15. Anon[418] • Disclaimer says:

    3 Jewish women writing an article falsely accusing whites of being mean to blacks………

    In a week where a black guy machete-chopped 5 jews in a synagogue and a couple of blacks beat a young hasidic jew senseless in Brooklyn.

    Sure you are right about who hates who ladies? Ya mad gals? Bout’ a video? Really?

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Anon


    3 Jewish women writing an article falsely accusing whites of being mean to blacks………In a week where a black guy machete-chopped 5 jews in a synagogue and a couple of blacks beat a young hasidic jew senseless in Brooklyn.
     
    Wait a minute, you're calling for loyalty in women of the Lefty media? Jewesses? You kidding? Women turn on their own kind in two seconds if there's something in it for them. That's Feminism.
  16. Separate countries are the solution. But because the Left are entirely parasites, we must divide America and shine them on about how their creativity will benefit the Left from the division.

    To Hell with you “Union” people.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Agreed. No relatively peaceful way forward without separation.

    , @GodHelpUs
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    The problem with this is that the true political divide is not red state/blue state but blue cities/red countryside.

    The cities have become decadent and depraved because they administer the empire that America took over from the Europeans after WW2.

    If we are to save the nation, we must separate it from the empire. Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.

    This is the way to save the nation without resorting to a ruinous civil war.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Altai
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Shhh, when people other than white gentiles or Muslims (Or whomever is the 'designated Amalek' du jour) kill Jews it's very 'complicated'.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM8Lx-UXkAE8Jlt.jpg

    I mean, it'd be interesting if the deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour of Hasids and the tension from the rapidly growing Hasidic community in crowded New York City was discussed, but somehow I don't think it will be.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @El Dato, @Jack D, @Cloudbuster

  17. No black girl’s hair was touched in the making of this article.

    • LOL: Rosie, kikz
  18. I just watched the New Year’s concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, and couldn’t help but notice the orchestra apeared to be entirely white and predominantly male. Tell me the last time you saw an orchestra anywhere else in the world without at least several Asians. Hungary gets all the bad press, but my money is on Austria having a longer life as a nation than their German and Swiss cousins … hey, Austrians took Germany into two world wars and came out of both comparatively smelling like roses compared to their German cousins.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Alarmist

    So Austria will remain incorporated? They do have the best corporals.

    , @Anonymous
    @The Alarmist

    Saw the Vienna Boys Choir Christmas concert at Carnegie Hall last month. A number of asians and blacks, only a handful of stereotypically Austrian looking kids.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @The Alarmist


    I just watched the New Year’s concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, and couldn’t help but notice the orchestra apeared to be entirely white and predominantly male.
     
    The Church of St Agnes in St Paul was founded by Austrian immigrants in the 1880s, and still has many of their descendants as parishioners. They've been keeping the orchestral Mass tradition alive for decades, with 26 a year, the remainder being chanted Gregorian. (It was also a sneaky way to slip in a Latin Mass under Novus Ordo rules.)

    The musicians are moonlighting professionals, though, whose cars can be identified outside by very different bumper stickers. Union rules complicate projects like recordings and broadcasts.

    Also very Austrian are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, portrayed on the church's ceiling as blond and blue-eyed.
  19. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Separate countries are the solution. But because the Left are entirely parasites, we must divide America and shine them on about how their creativity will benefit the Left from the division.

    To Hell with you "Union" people.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @GodHelpUs, @Altai

    Agreed. No relatively peaceful way forward without separation.

  20. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Separate countries are the solution. But because the Left are entirely parasites, we must divide America and shine them on about how their creativity will benefit the Left from the division.

    To Hell with you "Union" people.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @GodHelpUs, @Altai

    The problem with this is that the true political divide is not red state/blue state but blue cities/red countryside.

    The cities have become decadent and depraved because they administer the empire that America took over from the Europeans after WW2.

    If we are to save the nation, we must separate it from the empire. Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.

    This is the way to save the nation without resorting to a ruinous civil war.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @GodHelpUs


    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.
     
    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don't need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I'm glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/d8/5d/2dd85dd679c7242285ac6325d75f3707.jpg

    Replies: @Johnny789, @Leo D, @fish, @Possumman, @nymom, @Jack D

  21. This is the story of a video that galvanized and divided a university plagued by a history of racist incidents, as told by the people who saw it happen.

    Hmmm. How exactly does history “plague” a university? I don’t think it can. The suggestion to the contrary is just a gentle reminder that Whites aren’t entitled to a voice in anything and can never atone for their wicked past.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Rosie

    I can just imagine this girl as a Red Guard in the 1960s. Or a Tai Ping fanatic in the 1850s. Wokeness is the ideology of authority, so she holds up a slogan for that.

  22. OT:
    But here are my two candidates for pictures which sum up the 2010s, defined in their latter half by the Great Awokening (Which is really just the rise of public social media and it’s mass embrace particularly by young women).

    You have 20 year old Hispanic BPD FtM (Complete with a goading expression since she assumes everyone hates her and her coping mechanism is to preemptively attack them) and a perfect MtF autogynophile who trooned out in his late 40s.

    Next is this one. The swearing ceremony of Judge Rachel Freier, the first Hasidic judge in NYC history. It’s beautiful, almost accidental renaissance. Every little detail in the foreground and background is perfect. (And yes, she is a wearing a replica wig of her own hair over her actual hair to trick god.)

    I can’t tell if the giant Dunkin’Donuts flavoured coffee and giant phablet phones on the desk in full view for the publicity shot or the lonely angry white man on the far right with his arms crossed is the best part.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Altai

    Actually I completely forgot. This one, from the 'Rhodes Must Fall' protests at the University of Cape Town in South Africa, whose protestors used the language of American critical race theory and which in turn inspired the sudden flash black student protests at US universities a few weeks later.

    Here is art student, Sethembile Msezane, who did this pose during the removal of the statue of Cecil Rhodes. I like the combination of pretentious post-modernism, Beyonce and traditional Zulu aesthetics.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10178900-3x2-940x627.jpg

    Replies: @vhrm

    , @Jack D
    @Altai

    What does the 2nd picture have to do with the 2010's? Are female Hasidic judges a thing now?

    , @jimmyriddle
    @Altai

    That lady looks like she could dish out some Old Testament justice.

    But the photo is gem -

    the gormless guy to left of Angry White Man
    the rabbi? flinching from the grinning Black guy
    the two Black ladies at the back
    the inscrutible oriental on the left.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @CJ
    @Altai

    The people in your first picture are, respectively, 50 and 51 years old. Yes I looked it up to be sure.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Altai

    They don't fly a state flag in NYC courtrooms? What insubordination. Are Liberty and Justice unwelcome therein?

    Is that a city flag, or a Manhattan one? They look alike except for the seal. Manhattan's has a windmill.

    Queens has an English rose, Brooklyn's a fasces. (Yes, a fasces.) Staten Island has some chick with a likely unlicensed weapon. How long can these last?

    The Bronx's instructs, "Yield not to evil." They should take this more seriously.


    The meaning behind every New York City borough flag

    Speaking of the Bronx, RIP, Don Larsen.

  23. They feel they are not wanted at the University of Wisconsin, where there are significantly fewer African-Americans per capita than in the state, which is mostly white.

    So blacks do understand what per capita means. Now let’s discuss crime stats.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @istevefan

    So do I have this right? The outrage is that the video portrayed the percentage of Black students accurately at 3 percent? This is bourgeois truth otherwise known as correspondence with reality, as opposed to revolutionary truth that Blacks are %50 of student body , which although not 'true' in narrow, stale, pale, whitey, bourgeois sense is true in larger revolutionary narrative ultimate truth sense. Five fingers, I see five fingers.

    , @TelfoedJohn
    @istevefan

    Yo yo, no ‘po kapitta’ ever called me the n-word.

  24. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Separate countries are the solution. But because the Left are entirely parasites, we must divide America and shine them on about how their creativity will benefit the Left from the division.

    To Hell with you "Union" people.

    Replies: @MBlanc46, @GodHelpUs, @Altai

    Shhh, when people other than white gentiles or Muslims (Or whomever is the ‘designated Amalek’ du jour) kill Jews it’s very ‘complicated’.

    I mean, it’d be interesting if the deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour of Hasids and the tension from the rapidly growing Hasidic community in crowded New York City was discussed, but somehow I don’t think it will be.

    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Altai

    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death? Most of the attacks on Hasidic Jews are because they are the whites in proximity to underclass blacks (the Monsey one is an exception in that the perp drove an hour out of his way for it.).

    Replies: @anon, @duncsbaby, @prosa123, @Anon

    , @El Dato
    @Altai

    *massively complicated* = "very simple but the zones of crimestop are compelling"

    , @Jack D
    @Altai

    Your late on this. Everyone, even Leftists, realized that what Erin Biba wrote was knee jerk and idiotic.

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Altai

    A recent NBC news article tried to discuss that issue, but was shouted down as anti-Semitic and victim-blaming, of course.

  25. @Back1

    It was not a hate or bias act. It was more an act of student activism or protest.
     
    Cheeseheads are ok. The protesters are probably FIBs or FBFCs, the dumbest of the dumb, except for administrators.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    FIBs I know, but FBFCs? Something about the biggest city in Illinois?

  26. Couldn’t some of those white kids in the video have had the common decency to appear in blackface?

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @black sea

    About 15 years ago U Wis got in trouble for photoshopping a black face into a crowd of white students at a football game for a promotional brochure. The really funny thing was it was a black student activist named Shabazz who never went to a football game.

  27. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Black students … feel they are not wanted at the University of Wisconsin, where there are significantly fewer African-Americans per capita than in the state, which is mostly white.

    Yes, but …

    Madison, Wisconsin Is 8% Black: In 2018, 83% of Homicides and 69% of Gun Crime Were Committed by Blacks

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/madison-wisconsin-is-8-black-in-2018-83-of-homicides-and-69-of-gun-crime-were-committed-by-blacks/

  28. @Reg Cæsar
    Badgers (sadly cucked by Ducks today) are relatively diverse by the state's standards; only Parkside and Milwaukee have more diverse UW campuses.

    Leading Wisconsin's diversity tables are what are probably (PL will correct me if wrong) the two most prestigious private schools in the state, Beloit and Lawrence. I wonder how much of their diversity is imported, and paying full price to boot.




    2020 Most Diverse Colleges in Wisconsin

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Paleo Liberal

    Row the boat, Reg!

    Beloit is a terrible place. It pains me to realize how much money I paid for my son to attend. At least he had a pretty good lacrosse career there. The college is pretty white, but the town has become much more vibrant over the past 20-30 years.
    I’d guess a lot of the diversity is full price Asian.

  29. @Altai
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Shhh, when people other than white gentiles or Muslims (Or whomever is the 'designated Amalek' du jour) kill Jews it's very 'complicated'.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM8Lx-UXkAE8Jlt.jpg

    I mean, it'd be interesting if the deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour of Hasids and the tension from the rapidly growing Hasidic community in crowded New York City was discussed, but somehow I don't think it will be.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @El Dato, @Jack D, @Cloudbuster

    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death? Most of the attacks on Hasidic Jews are because they are the whites in proximity to underclass blacks (the Monsey one is an exception in that the perp drove an hour out of his way for it.).

    • Replies: @anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death?
     
    Now that you mention it, whatever happened to the Tessa Majors murder story? I notice the media never mentions it.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @istevefan, @nglaer

    , @duncsbaby
    @Dave Pinsen

    I remember once opining on twitter that most of the attacks in NYC by people of color against Jews wasn't so much anti-Semitic as just plain ole anti-white. Jews just happened to be the closest white targets. For that I was accused of Antisemitism.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @prosa123
    @Dave Pinsen

    Indeed, the Monsey attacker lived in a largely white lakeside community nowhere close to the Hasidic settlements. He rarely or ever would have encountered them in his daily life.

    Replies: @GodHelpUs, @captflee

    , @Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Whatever Dave, #NeverForget (לעולם לא נשכח) the all-Negro 761st tank battalion liberated the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald. It was depicted on the PBS documentary "Liberators". It was Germanic whites, like the ones featured in the UW video, who were the ones putting Jews into cattle cars and gas chambers and it was the blacks, like those ethnically cleansed from that UW video, who freed the Jews. It’s history! People like Ron Unz need to stop reading all those books and see for themselves by watching PBS, The History Channel, The Heroes Channel, Fox News Memorial Day specials, et al. 👊🏻

    Replies: @SFG, @Alice in Wonderland

  30. @Altai
    OT:
    But here are my two candidates for pictures which sum up the 2010s, defined in their latter half by the Great Awokening (Which is really just the rise of public social media and it's mass embrace particularly by young women).

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ab43b35c258b487055ad91b/1533407058339-86J7LDSI4N4FUIRE4N9A/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPfnpno-qsEd_qjrWa7QDod7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UVlQOtnBLxT8MoNUwNFhCVXhxRzAZuv26UZlysJR7HcEpYUNEwbBj596Zrb0iNlLzA/AnnaleeNewitzCharlieJaneAnders-85.jpg

    You have 20 year old Hispanic BPD FtM (Complete with a goading expression since she assumes everyone hates her and her coping mechanism is to preemptively attack them) and a perfect MtF autogynophile who trooned out in his late 40s.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Judge_Freier_in_City_Hall.jpg

    Next is this one. The swearing ceremony of Judge Rachel Freier, the first Hasidic judge in NYC history. It’s beautiful, almost accidental renaissance. Every little detail in the foreground and background is perfect. (And yes, she is a wearing a replica wig of her own hair over her actual hair to trick god.)

    I can’t tell if the giant Dunkin’Donuts flavoured coffee and giant phablet phones on the desk in full view for the publicity shot or the lonely angry white man on the far right with his arms crossed is the best part.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jack D, @jimmyriddle, @CJ, @Reg Cæsar

    Actually I completely forgot. This one, from the ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ protests at the University of Cape Town in South Africa, whose protestors used the language of American critical race theory and which in turn inspired the sudden flash black student protests at US universities a few weeks later.

    Here is art student, Sethembile Msezane, who did this pose during the removal of the statue of Cecil Rhodes. I like the combination of pretentious post-modernism, Beyonce and traditional Zulu aesthetics.

    • Replies: @vhrm
    @Altai

    How long did she hold that pose?

    My delts are burning just looking at it

  31. @GodHelpUs
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    The problem with this is that the true political divide is not red state/blue state but blue cities/red countryside.

    The cities have become decadent and depraved because they administer the empire that America took over from the Europeans after WW2.

    If we are to save the nation, we must separate it from the empire. Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.

    This is the way to save the nation without resorting to a ruinous civil war.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.

    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don’t need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I’m glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    • Replies: @Johnny789
    @Rosie

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Rosie, @Jim Christian, @ScarletNumber, @peterike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    , @Leo D
    @Rosie

    I'm sorry, but the whole minimalist movement is geared to people who have no concept of 'tomorrow'. A space like this supports people who do not live, they exist...

    And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide...and those walls won't be white for long, lol

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @fish
    @Rosie

    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!

    Replies: @Rosie, @Anon

    , @Possumman
    @Rosie

    You have reinvented the mobile home--only more expensive and with less room

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @nymom
    @Rosie

    BTW, this apartment is adorable...

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    , @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Here's an idea - everyone could have a large insulated box - sort of like an oversized cooler. Every couple of days a man would come by and deliver to you a large block of ice.

    It's a good thing that there appear to be no large appliances (fridge, stove, washing machine, etc.) in that space because you're not going to get them thru what looks like an 18" door opening. For that matter, how did they get those base cabinets in there unless they were flat pack Ikea stuff?

    The space looks terrifically uncluttered but don't the owners want a coffee machine and a toaster oven at a minimum (since there doesn't appear to be a real oven)? And a dish drainer since there's no dishwasher? Maybe a paper towel holder? Some kind of task lighting so you can see what is cooking at night? There goes your uncluttered look.

    I'm really not that wild about slippery varnished staircases that are open on one side or a mattress on the floor or hard stools without backs. A lot of these concepts are great when you are 25 years old but what happens when you get older?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

  32. @Dave Pinsen
    @Altai

    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death? Most of the attacks on Hasidic Jews are because they are the whites in proximity to underclass blacks (the Monsey one is an exception in that the perp drove an hour out of his way for it.).

    Replies: @anon, @duncsbaby, @prosa123, @Anon

    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death?

    Now that you mention it, whatever happened to the Tessa Majors murder story? I notice the media never mentions it.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @anon

    Our diversity might have become a casualty, and that threatened to be the bigger tragedy.

    , @istevefan
    @anon

    If it's not in the news, did it really happen?

    , @nglaer
    @anon

    @Disclaimer

    The perps have lawyered up and are under age. Cops trying to find DNA evidence. Lawyers claiming intitlal semi confession illegal. Even if convicted, they'll be back on the street in time for "college".
    Effect on Barnard girls wokeness quotient, not yet known.

    Replies: @Jack D

  33. Days before Homecoming Week, the student homecoming committee, tasked with producing the video, posted it online. The outrage was almost instantaneous.

    And this sort of 0-to full-on meltdown in 4.2 seconds (with all the crying and the teeth gnashing, oy!) is totally not a case of minority fragility. You’re the fragile one, Whitey McFragileFace!

  34. It’s OK to be a snowflake?

  35. @istevefan

    They feel they are not wanted at the University of Wisconsin, where there are significantly fewer African-Americans per capita than in the state, which is mostly white.
     
    So blacks do understand what per capita means. Now let's discuss crime stats.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @TelfoedJohn

    So do I have this right? The outrage is that the video portrayed the percentage of Black students accurately at 3 percent? This is bourgeois truth otherwise known as correspondence with reality, as opposed to revolutionary truth that Blacks are %50 of student body , which although not ‘true’ in narrow, stale, pale, whitey, bourgeois sense is true in larger revolutionary narrative ultimate truth sense. Five fingers, I see five fingers.

  36. @Rosie
    @GodHelpUs


    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.
     
    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don't need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I'm glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/d8/5d/2dd85dd679c7242285ac6325d75f3707.jpg

    Replies: @Johnny789, @Leo D, @fish, @Possumman, @nymom, @Jack D

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Johnny789

    Hot dogs for the toddler, ramen for the tween, big pot for the pasta and one for the pasta sauce.

    , @Rosie
    @Johnny789


    why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?
     
    Beats me.
    , @Jim Christian
    @Johnny789


    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?
     
    And no range hood and exhaust. THAT'S good for you..
    , @ScarletNumber
    @Johnny789

    Isn't 4 the standard number? I've never seen a stove top with fewer.

    , @peterike
    @Johnny789


    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?
     
    Agreed, it's barbaric. You really need six burners. And two ovens. Now THAT'S civilized.

    White people didn't come this far so I could cook using a pot held over a camp fire by sticks.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Johnny789

    Well, some of us actually cook. You know, that archaic activity largely superceded by warming up frozen stuff in a microwave oven.

    We use an induction cooktop; no open flame, magnetic induction in specially fabricated vessels, so no compelling necessity for a range hood to draw off the heat, particularly in the summer, rather a rise-up downdraft ventilation fan across the back of the cooktop that pulls out steam and cooking odors at need. And yes, the cooktop can accomodate 4 pans/kettles, & we see that fairly often.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Jack D

  37. Zoom in on Judge Rachel. Look at the jaw and the neck. Looks kinda like an MtF trans.

    On topic question: if there are Historically Black Colleges, why isn’t Wisconsin an Historically White College?

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @anon

    Because there is nothing that can be Historically White. Not countries, neighborhoods nor schools or even families. But it's not genocide, no siree, because whites invented slavery.

    , @kaganovitch
    @anon

    Looks kinda like an MtF trans.

    Six kids though.

  38. @Dave Pinsen
    @Altai

    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death? Most of the attacks on Hasidic Jews are because they are the whites in proximity to underclass blacks (the Monsey one is an exception in that the perp drove an hour out of his way for it.).

    Replies: @anon, @duncsbaby, @prosa123, @Anon

    I remember once opining on twitter that most of the attacks in NYC by people of color against Jews wasn’t so much anti-Semitic as just plain ole anti-white. Jews just happened to be the closest white targets. For that I was accused of Antisemitism.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @duncsbaby


    I remember once opining on twitter that most of the attacks in NYC by people of color against Jews wasn’t so much anti-Semitic as just plain ole anti-white. Jews just happened to be the closest white targets.
     
    Some black nut went around a central Toronto university neighborhood recently dumping buckets of fecal matter-- presumably his own-- onto random pedestrians. All of the victims were Chinese.

    Reporters asked both police and students if they thought Chinese were being targeted. Both said no, it's just that there are nothing but Chinese in the area, so there was no one else to hit.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/it-was-feces-third-poop-attack-in-four-days-has-toronto-students-on-edge

    Replies: @anon

  39. Plus, you want people to watch the video and WANT to go to college there. “This is really confusing. I already have a historically black college as my safety school.” You don’t want to hear that.

  40. @istevefan

    They feel they are not wanted at the University of Wisconsin, where there are significantly fewer African-Americans per capita than in the state, which is mostly white.
     
    So blacks do understand what per capita means. Now let's discuss crime stats.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @TelfoedJohn

    Yo yo, no ‘po kapitta’ ever called me the n-word.

  41. @Altai
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Shhh, when people other than white gentiles or Muslims (Or whomever is the 'designated Amalek' du jour) kill Jews it's very 'complicated'.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM8Lx-UXkAE8Jlt.jpg

    I mean, it'd be interesting if the deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour of Hasids and the tension from the rapidly growing Hasidic community in crowded New York City was discussed, but somehow I don't think it will be.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @El Dato, @Jack D, @Cloudbuster

    *massively complicated* = “very simple but the zones of crimestop are compelling”

  42. • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/University_of_Wisconsin_seal.svg/800px-University_of_Wisconsin_seal.svg.png

    That feel you get when you adopt the all-seeing-eye as your school symbol, take the motto "Numen Lumen", god is light, quite possibly interpretable as god is Lucifer, the light-bringer, and even this is not enough to bring you protective Good White status.

    Functioning as a literal staging ground for Northern Civil War troops - it's not enough. Reparations must be paid!

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Anon
    @Anonymous

    “Sara Goldrick-Rab”... It’s never surprising to see Chosenites behind the agitation against whites. From Ferguson to Madison the NYT hammers away at ‘white is not all right’. Read E. Michael Jones’ The Slaughter of Cities. Our once-beautiful American cities were destroyed by Jews manipulating WASPs and blacks (Jewish proxy warriors) into ethically cleansing traditional white ethic neighborhoods. But it’s never enough for (((them))).

    Meanwhile every January 1st (including yesterday) 90,000 people get together for Siyum HaShas (aka ‘Jewish Super Bowl’) at MetLife Stadium in a diverse tri-state area and yet there is zero diversity. Not one black or brown or yellow face. This group is three times the size as the Wisconsin-Madison student body and right at the feet of the NYT. But for some reason it’s presented as a DIE event:


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/nyregion/jewish-attacks-monsey-Daf-Yomi.html

    90,000 Jews Gather to Pray and Defy a Wave of Hate

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/01/nyregion/01talmud01/01talmud01-facebookJumbo.jpg
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Charon, @Yngvar

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/davidmaraniss/status/1212798240917245953

    Author of A Good American Family: The Red Scare and My Father.

  43. “By …. Emily Shetler …… ”

    ‘Gimme Shelter’ more like.

  44. @The Alarmist
    I just watched the New Year's concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, and couldn't help but notice the orchestra apeared to be entirely white and predominantly male. Tell me the last time you saw an orchestra anywhere else in the world without at least several Asians. Hungary gets all the bad press, but my money is on Austria having a longer life as a nation than their German and Swiss cousins ... hey, Austrians took Germany into two world wars and came out of both comparatively smelling like roses compared to their German cousins.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    So Austria will remain incorporated? They do have the best corporals.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  45. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn't that what's important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly - even secretly - knew that blacks and browns weren't as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their "white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC" ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    Replies: @Moses, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Prester John, @ATBOTL, @El Dato, @Kronos, @joe862

    You may be right.

    The left has doubled down so many times on its “all races are equal” shibboleth, even a glimmer of truth would bring it all crashing down.

    Times will get even more woke. 2+2 will equal 5, bigots.

  46. Targeted!

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

  47. @Johnny789
    @Rosie

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Rosie, @Jim Christian, @ScarletNumber, @peterike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Hot dogs for the toddler, ramen for the tween, big pot for the pasta and one for the pasta sauce.

  48. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/saragoldrickrab/status/1212540811818221570

    https://twitter.com/saragoldrickrab/status/1212542982521524224

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Anonymous

    That feel you get when you adopt the all-seeing-eye as your school symbol, take the motto “Numen Lumen”, god is light, quite possibly interpretable as god is Lucifer, the light-bringer, and even this is not enough to bring you protective Good White status.

    Functioning as a literal staging ground for Northern Civil War troops – it’s not enough. Reparations must be paid!

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Anonymous

    That's a typical freemasonic symbol, the all-seeing eye. Speaking of which, are Blacks under-represented in masonic lodges? We can't have that, disparate impact in secret societies!

    Replies: @SFG, @duncsbaby

  49. No POC there.
    No womyn.

    How to identify with anyone?

    • Replies: @Jpp
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Kaija Saariaho, Sofia Gubaidulina, Germaine Tailleferre, Helena Tulve, Chaya Czernowin, Galina Ustvolskaya, Olga Neuwirth, etc. To be fair, there are some quite capable and interesting female composers who have emerged over the past century, mainly in its more recent half. Tis philistine to disacknowledge this.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Bardon Kaldian

    No womyn.
    How to identify with anyone?


    Well, to begin with we can retroactively transition some of those long wig ones.

  50. @Reg Cæsar
    Badgers (sadly cucked by Ducks today) are relatively diverse by the state's standards; only Parkside and Milwaukee have more diverse UW campuses.

    Leading Wisconsin's diversity tables are what are probably (PL will correct me if wrong) the two most prestigious private schools in the state, Beloit and Lawrence. I wonder how much of their diversity is imported, and paying full price to boot.




    2020 Most Diverse Colleges in Wisconsin

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Paleo Liberal

    I would not include Beloit College as one of the two most prestigious private schools in Wisconsin. Marquette and the Milwaukee School of Engineering, both in Milwaukee, probably rank higher.

    That being said, you are correct a certain amount of the diversity in the better schools in Wisconsin is due to out of state students. And yes, that includes some full load paying Asian students.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Paleo Liberal

    PL- you are correct. One of my other boys went to Marquette, and had a better experience than the son who went to Beloit.

    Presumably to graduate from MSOE you need to know something.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Paleo Liberal

  51. @black sea
    Couldn't some of those white kids in the video have had the common decency to appear in blackface?

    Replies: @hhsiii

    About 15 years ago U Wis got in trouble for photoshopping a black face into a crowd of white students at a football game for a promotional brochure. The really funny thing was it was a black student activist named Shabazz who never went to a football game.

  52. And then….yaaay….

    Playlist | 10 Composers Changing Contemporary Classical Music (Who Also Happen to Be Women)

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Bardon Kaldian

    WHAT A GREAT MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF THEYKIND!!

    , @Kylie
    @Bardon Kaldian

    As a lifelong lover of classical music, I can't say I really gaf about this drearily predictable development. "Contemporary classical"? Have at it, ladies!

  53. @nebulafox
    OT:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/01/jack-wilson-white-settlement-shooting-hero-column/2784355001/

    "Of course, that wouldn’t matter to the churchgoers of that community of roughly 18,000 residents, right?"

    Those damned hicks! How dare they prioritize not getting massacred above our feelings?!

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    Well the guy trying to commit the crime shouldn’t have been in prison, at any rate.

  54. @Bardon Kaldian
    And then....yaaay....

    Playlist | 10 Composers Changing Contemporary Classical Music (Who Also Happen to Be Women)


    https://www.wfmt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/women-composers.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Kylie

    WHAT A GREAT MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF THEYKIND!!

  55. Nothing changes unless we do 110.

  56. It’s not hard, just don’t get your majority minority-majority schools mixed up with your majority majority-minority (white, not that that exists) schools.

  57. @Johnny789
    @Rosie

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Rosie, @Jim Christian, @ScarletNumber, @peterike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Beats me.

  58. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/University_of_Wisconsin_seal.svg/800px-University_of_Wisconsin_seal.svg.png

    That feel you get when you adopt the all-seeing-eye as your school symbol, take the motto "Numen Lumen", god is light, quite possibly interpretable as god is Lucifer, the light-bringer, and even this is not enough to bring you protective Good White status.

    Functioning as a literal staging ground for Northern Civil War troops - it's not enough. Reparations must be paid!

    Replies: @BB753

    That’s a typical freemasonic symbol, the all-seeing eye. Speaking of which, are Blacks under-represented in masonic lodges? We can’t have that, disparate impact in secret societies!

    • Replies: @SFG
    @BB753

    There were specifically African-American lodges, the Prince Hall ones, dating back to the Revolution. It's a mutual aid society in large part, so even if the official organization doesn't recognize you you can do the same thing. It was popular with talented tenth types from what little I know.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @duncsbaby
    @BB753

    I've met a couple of black Masons. They proudly wear their rings. I think I've probably met more white Masons but I just never noticed, they like to keep it on the down-low.

    https://farm1.staticflickr.com/21/34060901_e10f41cdbc_z.jpg?zz=1

  59. @Anon
    3 Jewish women writing an article falsely accusing whites of being mean to blacks.........

    In a week where a black guy machete-chopped 5 jews in a synagogue and a couple of blacks beat a young hasidic jew senseless in Brooklyn.

    Sure you are right about who hates who ladies? Ya mad gals? Bout' a video? Really?

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    3 Jewish women writing an article falsely accusing whites of being mean to blacks………In a week where a black guy machete-chopped 5 jews in a synagogue and a couple of blacks beat a young hasidic jew senseless in Brooklyn.

    Wait a minute, you’re calling for loyalty in women of the Lefty media? Jewesses? You kidding? Women turn on their own kind in two seconds if there’s something in it for them. That’s Feminism.

  60. @Johnny789
    @Rosie

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Rosie, @Jim Christian, @ScarletNumber, @peterike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    And no range hood and exhaust. THAT’S good for you..

  61. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn't that what's important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly - even secretly - knew that blacks and browns weren't as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their "white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC" ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    Replies: @Moses, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Prester John, @ATBOTL, @El Dato, @Kronos, @joe862

    While I’m sure there are some, I don’t think that most Gen-Xers that feel this way. They are more like Boomers in that regard at least. I assume you are talking about Millenials. And maybe even then there’s some hope they may mellow out as they get older.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    And maybe even then there’s some hope they may mellow out as they get older.
     
    Even the POC Gen-Xers and Millenials?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc8pczn-hs

    The future is tribal. Plan accordingly.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    The problem is the size of the white Gen-X population. The boomers are 80% white , while Gen-X is just 61% white.

    There are about 55 million White Boomers alive and just 42 million white Gen-X alive today. So as the boomers pass away we lose millions of whites

  62. @JimDandy
    What did this year's Howard University homecoming video look like?

    Replies: @JMcG, @Realist, @bruce county

    What did this year’s Howard University homecoming video look like?

    Here’s some examples, enjoy:

    If blacks ever want to be taken seriously, they need to lose the dumbass–jigaboo look, action and talk.

    Howard University’s mascot is, fittingly, a bison.

  63. @BB753
    @Anonymous

    That's a typical freemasonic symbol, the all-seeing eye. Speaking of which, are Blacks under-represented in masonic lodges? We can't have that, disparate impact in secret societies!

    Replies: @SFG, @duncsbaby

    There were specifically African-American lodges, the Prince Hall ones, dating back to the Revolution. It’s a mutual aid society in large part, so even if the official organization doesn’t recognize you you can do the same thing. It was popular with talented tenth types from what little I know.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @SFG

    OK, so "separate but equal"! You'd think "enlightened" masons would not embrace Jim Crow.

  64. Anon[211] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/saragoldrickrab/status/1212540811818221570

    https://twitter.com/saragoldrickrab/status/1212542982521524224

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Anonymous

    “Sara Goldrick-Rab”… It’s never surprising to see Chosenites behind the agitation against whites. From Ferguson to Madison the NYT hammers away at ‘white is not all right’. Read E. Michael Jones’ The Slaughter of Cities. Our once-beautiful American cities were destroyed by Jews manipulating WASPs and blacks (Jewish proxy warriors) into ethically cleansing traditional white ethic neighborhoods. But it’s never enough for (((them))).

    Meanwhile every January 1st (including yesterday) 90,000 people get together for Siyum HaShas (aka ‘Jewish Super Bowl’) at MetLife Stadium in a diverse tri-state area and yet there is zero diversity. Not one black or brown or yellow face. This group is three times the size as the Wisconsin-Madison student body and right at the feet of the NYT. But for some reason it’s presented as a DIE event:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/nyregion/jewish-attacks-monsey-Daf-Yomi.html

    90,000 Jews Gather to Pray and Defy a Wave of Hate

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam, yo! We are the good patriarchy!

    Non-Jewish white male event is either illegal or should be illegal as it is literally anudah Shoah.

    So, so tiresome.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Charon
    @Anon

    Ann Coulter has been on a tear lately, ripping apart prime sources of anti-white hatred in the mass media. And daring to name the actual miscreants behind them.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2019-12-31.html

    She needs to write a book with this singular focus. Is anyone else (similarly prominent) doing work like this?

    It's good to see her drawing blood. But we need a dozen more like her.

    , @Yngvar
    @Anon

    That's a religious festival. By definition not diverse or including.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  65. I’ve derived much amusement and mirth over the last 15 years or so from reading feminist crit denunciations of mainstream physics – e.g. Mainstream physics favours solid state (male) mechanics over fluid state (female) mechanics. I’ve tried to think about how this form of pseudo logic could be repurposed by the racial grievance industry. I have worked out the following:

    1. It’s racist that the majority of students in schools aren’t white. Bus the kids.

    2. It’s racist that the majority of the population isn’t coloured. Open the borders.

    3. It’s racist that the majority of teachers aren’t coloured. Lower the entry standards.

    4. It’s racist that whites move out of places where coloured people live. Use section 8 vouchers to send the coloured people out to where they move to.

    5. It’s racist when white people gentrify otherwise attractive areas where coloured people live. Use BLM to ratchet up the crime rate so the whites don’t move in.

    6. It’s racist when whites won’t move into coloured areas and deprive the locals of their tax Dollars. Er, something to do with redlining.

    Corollaries of 1-6 above:

    1. Coloured people have a right to live in white majority communities.

    2. Coloured people have a right to live in communities dominated by coloured people.

    3. It is a basic law of physics that different matter cannot occupy the same space at the same time and that the same matter cannot occupy different space at the same time.

    4. 3 above negates the possibility of 1 and 2 above being simultaneously possible.

    5. Physics is racist.

    6. Physics needs to be socially reconstructed to allow coloured people to get their own way because science.

  66. @Anonymous
    Targeted!

    https://twitter.com/marclacey/status/1212399780325920770

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Paleo Liberal


    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids.
     
    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job. No matter which particular school you went to, on football Saturdays there is a bar that caters to your fellow alumni.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anon

    , @anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    So what you're saying is that black and jewish kids who hate homecoming and refusd to participate in it must be included in the homecoming video, and the local white kids who do all the work to make the floats, organize the parties, and make the video must mis-represent homecoming as a tradition much beloved by blacks and jews.
    BS

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    , @SFG
    @Paleo Liberal

    So maybe it was the Coasties using this as an excuse to go after the Sconnies?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    , @Anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    Why the heck are all these rich dumb Jews (I presume they're dumb because they didn't get into good private liberal arts colleges) going to UW at Madison? Frankly, I'd be going to the University of Hawaii, if I was stuck with picking only a state school. Is it because the Jewish parents want their offspring to marry healthy and normal Midwestern farmboy/girl non-Jews?

    Replies: @prosa123, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Paleo Liberal


    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers
     
    Downstate New Yorkers. Upstaters would fit right in, as Wisconsin is essentially the same, at a lower elevation. Right down to two Great Lakes and millions of cows.

    Something like 85% of Michigan's early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.

    In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.
     
    It's surprising how much lakefront property in "commie" Madison is private, or controlled by institutions like UW. Little parkland, unlike along Chicago's big lake or Minneapolis's many little ones.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing.
     
    And ride mopeds. I've never seen so many anywhere else, even in Europe. This may be due to the city's complicated street grid-- as Madison (the man) was a smaller version of Washington (the man), so is Madison (the city) a shrunken Washington (DC) crammed into a fight isthmus, with conflicting grids at 45° angles.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hibernian

    , @Anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    This is just like the old-fashioned High School Yearbook - loaded mostly with photos of the yearbook staff and their friends.

    , @ATBOTL
    @Paleo Liberal


    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.
     
    No, you failed miserably. Stop cucking. Support your own people. Stop being a traitor. Stop throwing young white people under the bus.
  67. Late to the party, and this is an obvious point anyway, but these schools are literally full of people looking for Racisms to make hay out of. As they have hired more and more diversity administrators, behavior has come to be ever more finely policed, yet the demand for Racisms has not declined, and so this entire exercise in empathy and understanding and tolerance has merely devolved into never-ending protests over ever sillier nonsense.

    These articles generally put student activists at the center of the story, but in my experience it’s the administration pulling the strings. Of course politically activated minority student foot-soldiers are an important ingredient, but what really matters are the clubs that gather and organize these students into their respective activist battalions; and the Diversity botherers in the administration, who organize the activism by providing funding, coordination and facilities. Also there are professorial factions who teach the key concepts or what Racisms might be and how to identify and classify the ever more subtly differentiated Racisms students might encounter.

    All of these people — including the students, literally thousands of them at a big campus like Wisconsin — are poring over every last university publication, every last item of bathroom graffiti, everything written on a whiteboard, seriously everything, to find Racisms. It is a permanent revolution, powered by Racisms. Mining Racisms is literally, literally, the job of specific staff members with access to untold amounts of volunteer support. (The labourers are plentiful, but the harvest is meagre indeed.) We are talking about organizations, in the case of Wisconsin a totally state-funded institution, that pay for employees to dig up fake or misleading dirt on themselves and to publicize this libelous material against their own interests and to organize protests against themselves and their own faculty and their own students.

    For every Racism that makes it into the news, there are ten Racisms that even today’s NYT will not write articles about because they are so incredibly stupid. I wish to god that I could describe many of the Racisms that were discussed at my school, but to do so would be to doxx myself. Of course once a Racism has been found, it justifies the entire existence of the Diversity brigade and the life purpose of its members, and it also becomes an occasion for self-righteous lecturing of the white students and the white faculty. It remains a teachable moment and a reason to protest even when the Racism turns out to be a hoax (most of the time) or when the Racism is revealed to be irrelevant (an extremely poorly realized swastika, or perhaps a cross, carved on some tree probably fifty years ago) or when the Racism turns out to be a misunderstanding like the Hate Stupidity (the people who chalked Heil Hitler all over the sidewalk were actually from the Black Student Union protesting rampant white supremacy on campus).*

    Whatever happens in the broader culture, this stupid stuff will never stop happening because all of these schools have hired cadres of Racism-hunting administrators who will continue to do their jobs and hire successors to tilt at the windmill of Racism long after they are retired, for the rest of all time. Over the past decade an entire new world of Diversity administration and professional on-staff activists has been called into existence, and many of the student protesters are doing nothing more than burnishing their resumes for Diversity careers of their own. This will never stop now, until our universities are dismantled, or their bureaucracies are totally reformed.

    *Once you account for all the Racisms that fall into these three categories, you are left with only a very few remaining Racisms, . These as a rule are not even “It’s OK to be White”-tier trolls, but merely instances of graffiti or fliers or chalkboard phrases or whatever that are so ambiguous nobody is even sure what they mean. According to the Ontology of a Racism, however, possible Racisms and ambiguous Racisms are real and certain Racisms, and indeed their reality and certainty only grows with their ambiguity.

  68. @Johnny789
    @Rosie

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Rosie, @Jim Christian, @ScarletNumber, @peterike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Isn’t 4 the standard number? I’ve never seen a stove top with fewer.

  69. @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids.

    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job. No matter which particular school you went to, on football Saturdays there is a bar that caters to your fellow alumni.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @ScarletNumber

    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job.

    UW Madison is something of an outlier though. Student body is 12 percent Jewish, while Jewish population percent in Wisconsin is half of one percent.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Joe Schmoe

    , @Anon
    @ScarletNumber


    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job.
     
    This has been my experience as well. I went to a prominent Big 10 school for undergrad and it was inundated by kids from the NYC metro area, especially Westchester. These kids were mostly fake and tried way too hard to dumb themselves down in order to fit in with kids from throughout the rural parts of the state -- and even some of the larger metros that embodied a completely different mindset than what's found in NYC. I once had a roommate from a wealthy, semi-rural town north of NYC. Her father would send her a thousand dollars here, a thousand dollars there, and even funded her lavish spring break trips to exotic destinations. My roommate would downplay this and I could tell that she were somewhat ashamed of her ease of access to nearly unlimited resources, while our other roommates and I would work countless hours at local businesses in addition to counting our pennies after selling back textbooks and/or our plasma to the local BioLife, while maintaining full course loads -- often of 18 credits or more in STEM or business.

    My former NYer friend did move back to work and live in the NYC metro, but has since left to live in other "trendy" socialist meccas such as Boulder.
  70. @Bardon Kaldian
    http://kunstderfuge.com/images/composers-collection.jpg

    No POC there.
    No womyn.

    How to identify with anyone?

    Replies: @Jpp, @kaganovitch

    Kaija Saariaho, Sofia Gubaidulina, Germaine Tailleferre, Helena Tulve, Chaya Czernowin, Galina Ustvolskaya, Olga Neuwirth, etc. To be fair, there are some quite capable and interesting female composers who have emerged over the past century, mainly in its more recent half. Tis philistine to disacknowledge this.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  71. @Rosie

    This is the story of a video that galvanized and divided a university plagued by a history of racist incidents, as told by the people who saw it happen.
     
    Hmmm. How exactly does history "plague" a university? I don't think it can. The suggestion to the contrary is just a gentle reminder that Whites aren't entitled to a voice in anything and can never atone for their wicked past.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCyEdcfUEAA7Ex0.jpg

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    I can just imagine this girl as a Red Guard in the 1960s. Or a Tai Ping fanatic in the 1850s. Wokeness is the ideology of authority, so she holds up a slogan for that.

  72. @anon
    Zoom in on Judge Rachel. Look at the jaw and the neck. Looks kinda like an MtF trans.



    On topic question: if there are Historically Black Colleges, why isn't Wisconsin an Historically White College?

    Replies: @Neuday, @kaganovitch

    Because there is nothing that can be Historically White. Not countries, neighborhoods nor schools or even families. But it’s not genocide, no siree, because whites invented slavery.

  73. @Rosie
    @GodHelpUs


    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.
     
    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don't need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I'm glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/d8/5d/2dd85dd679c7242285ac6325d75f3707.jpg

    Replies: @Johnny789, @Leo D, @fish, @Possumman, @nymom, @Jack D

    I’m sorry, but the whole minimalist movement is geared to people who have no concept of ‘tomorrow’. A space like this supports people who do not live, they exist…

    And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Leo D


    And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol
     
    That's part of the reason people build tiny houses on wheels: to evade building codes that effectively price half the population out of homeownership. I agree with Achmed about this: the government shouldn't assume that people don't know to open a window when cooking with gas.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Leo D

  74. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

    So what you’re saying is that black and jewish kids who hate homecoming and refusd to participate in it must be included in the homecoming video, and the local white kids who do all the work to make the floats, organize the parties, and make the video must mis-represent homecoming as a tradition much beloved by blacks and jews.
    BS

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @anon

    Except the video was NOT about the homecoming committee.

    The purpose of the video was to show UW as a welcoming place; a home for people of all backgrounds.

    Whether you like that or not is beside the point.

    They had a job to do, and they failed miserably.

    It is almost impossible to put a camera at a busy random spot at UW without seeing a lot of non-white students. I have been in or near the UW campus more times than I can count. The film crew deliberately sought out non-white organizations, so they had footage.

    For the editors to come up with an ode to diversity which only showed white students was either extreme incompetence or deliberate sabotage. I am kind enough to assume incompetence— that these student editors showed the kind of campus experience they have, without realizing they are not the only students on campus.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  75. @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

    So maybe it was the Coasties using this as an excuse to go after the Sconnies?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @SFG

    The people who complained the most were non-white students, especially those who had been led to believe they would be in the film. I think there were some genuine hurt feelings— people had been led to believe that their organization would be seen as a representative organization of UW, only to be discarded along with any other students not in the groups that made the film.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  76. @Rosie
    @GodHelpUs


    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.
     
    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don't need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I'm glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/d8/5d/2dd85dd679c7242285ac6325d75f3707.jpg

    Replies: @Johnny789, @Leo D, @fish, @Possumman, @nymom, @Jack D

    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @fish

    https://youtu.be/0on4FqgrpeQ

    , @Anon
    @fish


    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!
     
    Quit being lazy. My father who's close to the aforementioned age works nearly seven days a week as a self-employed carpenter. One of my uncles who's in his 80's, a former Marine and cancer survivor, works 12 hour days and seven days a week during the busy season as a self-employed landscaper. Another one of my uncles, who's in his 90's, recently put a new roof on his farm house -- by himself. Furthermore, a former climbing partner of mine who is double my age, summited a couple of the worlds most iconic and dangerous peaks while in his 70's -- and we did one of those together under extremely challenging conditions.

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat, @The Wild Geese Howard

  77. @anon
    Zoom in on Judge Rachel. Look at the jaw and the neck. Looks kinda like an MtF trans.



    On topic question: if there are Historically Black Colleges, why isn't Wisconsin an Historically White College?

    Replies: @Neuday, @kaganovitch

    Looks kinda like an MtF trans.

    Six kids though.

  78. @Johnny789
    @Rosie

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Rosie, @Jim Christian, @ScarletNumber, @peterike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Agreed, it’s barbaric. You really need six burners. And two ovens. Now THAT’S civilized.

    White people didn’t come this far so I could cook using a pot held over a camp fire by sticks.

  79. Forgetting the stupid race aspect of this non-story, I’m almost more offended by this:

    “Home is where we grow together,” a voice-over said. “It’s where the hills are. It’s eating our favorite foods. It’s where we can all harmonize as one. Home is Wisconsin cheese curds. It’s welcoming everyone into our home.”

    I cannot stand this sappy, treacly nonsense, whether it’s about a university or about a workplace where executives say “we’re a family at Widget Corp!”.

    No, we’re not. School is a place you go to in order to learn something, period. Not to “harmonize as one.” Work is where you go to exchange your time and effort for cash. If you’re lucky it might accomplish more than that, but it usually doesn’t. And neither place is “home.”

    Feminine thinking ruins everything.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @peterike

    Are you confusing a residential liberal arts university with a trade school?

    No, liberal arts universities should be places where people go to challenge their ways of thinking, while also preparing themselves for the rest of their lives.

    Feeling at home is crucial, not just for the leaning experience but for the donations from alumni.

    Two of my kids are introverts. Going to a school where they felt at home and could make hopefully lifelong friendships has been an important part of their education.

    , @prosa123
    @peterike

    I cannot stand this sappy, treacly nonsense, whether it’s about a university or about a workplace where executives say “we’re a family at Widget Corp!”.
    No, we’re not. School is a place you go to in order to learn something, period. Not to “harmonize as one.” Work is where you go to exchange your time and effort for cash. If you’re lucky it might accomplish more than that, but it usually doesn’t. And neither place is “home.”

    Workplaces are far less family-like than colleges. People often maintain family-like ties with their colleges long after graduation: they get alumni publications, cheer for the sports teams, belong to alumni associations, attend homecomings and reunions. Of course many graduates don't bother to maintain these ties, but if they want to, they can.

    When people leave jobs, in contrast, they seldom if ever have any continuing ties to the employers. It doesn't matter if they had been there many years and left on completely favorable terms. There aren't any alumni-style "former employee" associations, no reunions, no homecoming events at the workplaces, no nothing. Most employers use outside companies to handle pensions and 401K's, so there aren't even those tenuous ties. Sometimes former employees maintain social ties to former co-workers, but those aren't company sponsored. It's really sad.

    Replies: @Joseph Doaks

  80. @Bardon Kaldian
    http://kunstderfuge.com/images/composers-collection.jpg

    No POC there.
    No womyn.

    How to identify with anyone?

    Replies: @Jpp, @kaganovitch

    No womyn.
    How to identify with anyone?

    Well, to begin with we can retroactively transition some of those long wig ones.

  81. @ScarletNumber
    @Paleo Liberal


    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids.
     
    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job. No matter which particular school you went to, on football Saturdays there is a bar that caters to your fellow alumni.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anon

    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job.

    UW Madison is something of an outlier though. Student body is 12 percent Jewish, while Jewish population percent in Wisconsin is half of one percent.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @kaganovitch

    I once talked to the Christian fellow who runs the kosher bakery in Madison.

    The bakery can only survive run by a Christian.

    He says the biggest sales are on Saturday, when the Moslem foreign students buy kosher, because almost the same as Halal. Under Kosher Law, a Jew could not run the store on Saturday. Only a Shabbot Goy. Since the owner is a Goy, he can be his own Goy boy. The Saturday sales keep the store profitable.

    Not enough Jews at UW, even with 12%, to support the bakery. Many of the UW Jews don’t keep kosher. It is hard to in a place where they sell “authentic New York style “ ham and cheese bagels.

    Replies: @Lurker, @nebulafox

    , @Joe Schmoe
    @kaganovitch

    Why don't Jews just build their own universities? The have no shortage of talent or funding.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @kaganovitch

  82. @JimDandy
    What did this year's Howard University homecoming video look like?

    Replies: @JMcG, @Realist, @bruce county

    A court room in Detroit.

  83. @Dave Pinsen
    @Altai

    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death? Most of the attacks on Hasidic Jews are because they are the whites in proximity to underclass blacks (the Monsey one is an exception in that the perp drove an hour out of his way for it.).

    Replies: @anon, @duncsbaby, @prosa123, @Anon

    Indeed, the Monsey attacker lived in a largely white lakeside community nowhere close to the Hasidic settlements. He rarely or ever would have encountered them in his daily life.

    • Replies: @GodHelpUs
    @prosa123

    "Monsey stabbing suspect Grafton Thomas was a ‘Shabbos goy’ growing up"

    https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/monsey-stabbing-suspect-grafton-thomas-was-a-shabbos-goy-growing-up/

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @captflee
    @prosa123

    Or, perhaps he did...

    https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/monsey-stabbing-suspect-grafton-thomas-was-a-shabbos-goy-growing-up/

  84. @Altai
    OT:
    But here are my two candidates for pictures which sum up the 2010s, defined in their latter half by the Great Awokening (Which is really just the rise of public social media and it's mass embrace particularly by young women).

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ab43b35c258b487055ad91b/1533407058339-86J7LDSI4N4FUIRE4N9A/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPfnpno-qsEd_qjrWa7QDod7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UVlQOtnBLxT8MoNUwNFhCVXhxRzAZuv26UZlysJR7HcEpYUNEwbBj596Zrb0iNlLzA/AnnaleeNewitzCharlieJaneAnders-85.jpg

    You have 20 year old Hispanic BPD FtM (Complete with a goading expression since she assumes everyone hates her and her coping mechanism is to preemptively attack them) and a perfect MtF autogynophile who trooned out in his late 40s.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Judge_Freier_in_City_Hall.jpg

    Next is this one. The swearing ceremony of Judge Rachel Freier, the first Hasidic judge in NYC history. It’s beautiful, almost accidental renaissance. Every little detail in the foreground and background is perfect. (And yes, she is a wearing a replica wig of her own hair over her actual hair to trick god.)

    I can’t tell if the giant Dunkin’Donuts flavoured coffee and giant phablet phones on the desk in full view for the publicity shot or the lonely angry white man on the far right with his arms crossed is the best part.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jack D, @jimmyriddle, @CJ, @Reg Cæsar

    What does the 2nd picture have to do with the 2010’s? Are female Hasidic judges a thing now?

  85. @Altai
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Shhh, when people other than white gentiles or Muslims (Or whomever is the 'designated Amalek' du jour) kill Jews it's very 'complicated'.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM8Lx-UXkAE8Jlt.jpg

    I mean, it'd be interesting if the deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour of Hasids and the tension from the rapidly growing Hasidic community in crowded New York City was discussed, but somehow I don't think it will be.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @El Dato, @Jack D, @Cloudbuster

    Your late on this. Everyone, even Leftists, realized that what Erin Biba wrote was knee jerk and idiotic.

  86. As I’ve said for years and will continue to say:

    Diversity means fewer white people. Diversity always means fewer white people.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @anon
    @The Plutonium Kid

    E Pluribus Brown Gruel

  87. We are just resources to be used by the Good People.

  88. Many years ago, I believe in the early 00’s, the University of Wisconsin produced promotional material showing students at a Badger football game. They wanted to show diversity, but there was a problem. They couldn’t find pictures that showed black students in the stands with the other students. To solve the “problem,” they photoshopped a picture of a black student among the white students. Somebody spotted the fake image because there were no shadows on the face of the black student.

  89. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn't that what's important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly - even secretly - knew that blacks and browns weren't as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their "white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC" ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    Replies: @Moses, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Prester John, @ATBOTL, @El Dato, @Kronos, @joe862

    Would like to think you’re wrong but…wouldn’t put money on it. If the next generation takes this as gospel, one can only speculate what the trade-offs will be. If life is a zero sum game, the likelihood is that at the end of THEIR reign—not a whole helluva lot will have changed.

  90. @prosa123
    @Dave Pinsen

    Indeed, the Monsey attacker lived in a largely white lakeside community nowhere close to the Hasidic settlements. He rarely or ever would have encountered them in his daily life.

    Replies: @GodHelpUs, @captflee

    “Monsey stabbing suspect Grafton Thomas was a ‘Shabbos goy’ growing up”

    https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/monsey-stabbing-suspect-grafton-thomas-was-a-shabbos-goy-growing-up/

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @GodHelpUs

    Come to think of it, how do you stab someone with a machete, which is a hacking tool?

  91. @SFG
    @Paleo Liberal

    So maybe it was the Coasties using this as an excuse to go after the Sconnies?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    The people who complained the most were non-white students, especially those who had been led to believe they would be in the film. I think there were some genuine hurt feelings— people had been led to believe that their organization would be seen as a representative organization of UW, only to be discarded along with any other students not in the groups that made the film.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Paleo Liberal


    people had been led to believe that their organization would be seen as a representative organization of UW, only to be discarded along with any other students not in the groups that made the film.
     
    Ah . . . the agony of the wannabe actor whose big break ends up on the cutting room floor. It will help prepare these kids for life. Also, to pay attention to who gets to be the editor.
  92. @kaganovitch
    @ScarletNumber

    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job.

    UW Madison is something of an outlier though. Student body is 12 percent Jewish, while Jewish population percent in Wisconsin is half of one percent.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Joe Schmoe

    I once talked to the Christian fellow who runs the kosher bakery in Madison.

    The bakery can only survive run by a Christian.

    He says the biggest sales are on Saturday, when the Moslem foreign students buy kosher, because almost the same as Halal. Under Kosher Law, a Jew could not run the store on Saturday. Only a Shabbot Goy. Since the owner is a Goy, he can be his own Goy boy. The Saturday sales keep the store profitable.

    Not enough Jews at UW, even with 12%, to support the bakery. Many of the UW Jews don’t keep kosher. It is hard to in a place where they sell “authentic New York style “ ham and cheese bagels.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Paleo Liberal


    the Moslem foreign students buy kosher, because almost the same as Hala
     
    It's a shame we don't hear more about Judeo-Islamic culture.
    , @nebulafox
    @Paleo Liberal

    I've already mentioned this in other posts, but I've known plenty of Muslim dudes who genuinely did not consider themselves at all pious or religious back in their native countries, yet all of a sudden had to reconsider that when they landed in a department that was heavily atheist/agnostic. If you have some vague, residual belief in God and will pray in the context of a life crisis or something, that all of a sudden stands out a lot more.

    It's not surprising that you see a moderate uptake in them practicing their religion in the States or Europe... or embracing open atheism, depending on the individual.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  93. @Rosie
    @GodHelpUs


    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.
     
    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don't need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I'm glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/d8/5d/2dd85dd679c7242285ac6325d75f3707.jpg

    Replies: @Johnny789, @Leo D, @fish, @Possumman, @nymom, @Jack D

    You have reinvented the mobile home–only more expensive and with less room

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Possumman


    You have reinvented the mobile home–only more expensive and with less room
     
    And a great deal more beautiful and durable.

    A tiny house will last generations. A tiny house bought by newlyweds can be a home for aging parents, a starter place for a child flying the nest, and then a retirement home in their golden years.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Possumman

  94. @The Alarmist
    I just watched the New Year's concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, and couldn't help but notice the orchestra apeared to be entirely white and predominantly male. Tell me the last time you saw an orchestra anywhere else in the world without at least several Asians. Hungary gets all the bad press, but my money is on Austria having a longer life as a nation than their German and Swiss cousins ... hey, Austrians took Germany into two world wars and came out of both comparatively smelling like roses compared to their German cousins.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    Saw the Vienna Boys Choir Christmas concert at Carnegie Hall last month. A number of asians and blacks, only a handful of stereotypically Austrian looking kids.

  95. @Paleo Liberal
    @Reg Cæsar

    I would not include Beloit College as one of the two most prestigious private schools in Wisconsin. Marquette and the Milwaukee School of Engineering, both in Milwaukee, probably rank higher.

    That being said, you are correct a certain amount of the diversity in the better schools in Wisconsin is due to out of state students. And yes, that includes some full load paying Asian students.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    PL- you are correct. One of my other boys went to Marquette, and had a better experience than the son who went to Beloit.

    Presumably to graduate from MSOE you need to know something.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    Presumably to graduate from MSOE you need to know something.
     
    Yes, but I was referring to prestige. Doesn't always correlate to learning!
    , @Paleo Liberal
    @Ganderson

    The best thing about MSOE is their engineers graduate in 4 years, since the students are accepted at the college by their majors. At many of the UW campuses, engineering students generally spend 5 years. MSOE costs more than the UW schools, but the cost of the 5th year vs having a year earning $ makes MSOE cheaper over the 5 year term.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  96. @prosa123
    @Dave Pinsen

    Indeed, the Monsey attacker lived in a largely white lakeside community nowhere close to the Hasidic settlements. He rarely or ever would have encountered them in his daily life.

    Replies: @GodHelpUs, @captflee

  97. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    While I’m sure there are some, I don’t think that most Gen-Xers that feel this way. They are more like Boomers in that regard at least. I assume you are talking about Millenials. And maybe even then there’s some hope they may mellow out as they get older.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    And maybe even then there’s some hope they may mellow out as they get older.

    Even the POC Gen-Xers and Millenials?

    The future is tribal. Plan accordingly.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    But it’s the Boomers (faculty, admissions, dean, board directors, (serious) fundraisers) calling the shots. The “professional activists” are working within the boomer system. They simply cannot exist without it. It’s amazing how Philip Roth’s book “The Human Stain” captures the precise political games within colleges/universities that’s been running rampant today. The book was published in 1998! True, social media added further gasoline to the dumpster fire which is contemporary social sciences/humanities but essentially all of these departments are configured to 1960s people and ideas.

    https://www.amazon.com/Human-Stain-American-Trilogy/dp/0375726349

  98. @peterike
    Forgetting the stupid race aspect of this non-story, I'm almost more offended by this:

    “Home is where we grow together,” a voice-over said. “It’s where the hills are. It’s eating our favorite foods. It’s where we can all harmonize as one. Home is Wisconsin cheese curds. It’s welcoming everyone into our home.”
     
    I cannot stand this sappy, treacly nonsense, whether it's about a university or about a workplace where executives say "we're a family at Widget Corp!".

    No, we're not. School is a place you go to in order to learn something, period. Not to "harmonize as one." Work is where you go to exchange your time and effort for cash. If you're lucky it might accomplish more than that, but it usually doesn't. And neither place is "home."

    Feminine thinking ruins everything.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @prosa123

    Are you confusing a residential liberal arts university with a trade school?

    No, liberal arts universities should be places where people go to challenge their ways of thinking, while also preparing themselves for the rest of their lives.

    Feeling at home is crucial, not just for the leaning experience but for the donations from alumni.

    Two of my kids are introverts. Going to a school where they felt at home and could make hopefully lifelong friendships has been an important part of their education.

  99. @Paleo Liberal
    @SFG

    The people who complained the most were non-white students, especially those who had been led to believe they would be in the film. I think there were some genuine hurt feelings— people had been led to believe that their organization would be seen as a representative organization of UW, only to be discarded along with any other students not in the groups that made the film.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    people had been led to believe that their organization would be seen as a representative organization of UW, only to be discarded along with any other students not in the groups that made the film.

    Ah . . . the agony of the wannabe actor whose big break ends up on the cutting room floor. It will help prepare these kids for life. Also, to pay attention to who gets to be the editor.

  100. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn't that what's important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly - even secretly - knew that blacks and browns weren't as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their "white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC" ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    Replies: @Moses, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Prester John, @ATBOTL, @El Dato, @Kronos, @joe862

    That’s true on the left, but at the same, time boomer conservatives are holding back the political right with their myths about “MLK was a conservative” and “I don’t see color.” Gen X aged conservatives, let alone millennials, are a lot more racially aware. We are heading for direct racial conflict between an openly anti-white left and an openly pro-white right.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @ATBOTL

    "We are heading for direct racial conflict between an openly anti-white left and an openly pro-white right."

    According to Who/Whom?

  101. @SFG
    @BB753

    There were specifically African-American lodges, the Prince Hall ones, dating back to the Revolution. It's a mutual aid society in large part, so even if the official organization doesn't recognize you you can do the same thing. It was popular with talented tenth types from what little I know.

    Replies: @BB753

    OK, so “separate but equal”! You’d think “enlightened” masons would not embrace Jim Crow.

  102. “The ghost of Henry Harpending” lol. Or maybe it was the ghost of one of the white men who have portraits in the med school.

  103. OT: From exactly one year ago, an article in Nautilus, apparently one of the most popular articles in 2019:

    Genes are now declared basically a figment of the imagination. It’s all in the magical feedback loops. This is good because it will pull the rag from underneath Nazis.


    It’s the End of the Gene As We Know It: We are not nearly as determined by our genes as once thought.
    By Ken Richardson January 3, 2019

    This runs counter to what I hear from other sources or what I see around me.

    Immediately skipping over the formulaic mantras about NAZIS and IQTESTS, we arrive at:

    Increasingly, we are finding that, in complex evolved traits—like human minds—there is little prediction from DNA variation through development to individual differences. The genes are crucial, of course, but nearly all genetic variations are dealt with in the way you can vary your journey from A to B: by constructing alternative routes. “Multiple alternative pathways … are the rule rather than the exception,” reported a paper in the journal BioSystems in 2007.6

    Conversely, it is now well known that a group of genetically identical individuals, reared in identical environments—as in pure-bred laboratory animals—do not become identical adults. Rather, they develop to exhibit the full range of bodily and functional variations found in normal, genetically-variable, groups. In a report in Science in 2013, Julia Fruend and colleagues observed this effect in differences in developing brain structures.

    This is why African immigrants to Europe drop white children at standard propensities.

    In a paper in Physics of Life Reviews in 2013, James Shapiro [no reference provided, but “Physics of Life Reviews” seems to be a journal with articles one can describe as “crank” or charitably as “highly speculative”] describes how cells and organisms are capable of “natural genetic engineering.”

    I have never heard that Life has mastered what SciFi has only imagined.

    That is, they frequently alter their own DNA sequences, rewriting their own genomes throughout life. [so radioactivity is not a problem?] The startling implication is that the gene as popularly conceived—a blueprint on a strand of DNA, determining development and its variations—does not really exist.

    So it is, in a review in the journal Genetics in 2017, that the geneticists Petter Portin and Adam Wilkins [no reference provided] question “the utility of the concept of a basic ‘unit of inheritance’ and the long implicit belief that genes are autonomous agents.” They show that “the classic molecular definition [is] obsolete.”

    These radical revisions of the gene concept need to reach the general public soon—before past social policy mistakes are repeated.

    We need to educate the public so that current policy can be intensified.

    Ken Richardson was formerly Senior Lecturer in Human Development at the Open University (U.K.). He is the author of Genes, Brains and Human Potential: The Science and Ideology of Intelligence.

  104. @GodHelpUs
    @prosa123

    "Monsey stabbing suspect Grafton Thomas was a ‘Shabbos goy’ growing up"

    https://nypost.com/2020/01/01/monsey-stabbing-suspect-grafton-thomas-was-a-shabbos-goy-growing-up/

    Replies: @El Dato

    Come to think of it, how do you stab someone with a machete, which is a hacking tool?

  105. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn't that what's important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly - even secretly - knew that blacks and browns weren't as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their "white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC" ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    Replies: @Moses, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Prester John, @ATBOTL, @El Dato, @Kronos, @joe862

    The way things are going, the the Outer Party people will not be looking for “equal outcomes” but for “any outcomes”.

    How to run the numbers of you spreadsheet to assure equality if electrical power is down again and hungry peons burn down your sustainable car?

  106. @Paleo Liberal
    @kaganovitch

    I once talked to the Christian fellow who runs the kosher bakery in Madison.

    The bakery can only survive run by a Christian.

    He says the biggest sales are on Saturday, when the Moslem foreign students buy kosher, because almost the same as Halal. Under Kosher Law, a Jew could not run the store on Saturday. Only a Shabbot Goy. Since the owner is a Goy, he can be his own Goy boy. The Saturday sales keep the store profitable.

    Not enough Jews at UW, even with 12%, to support the bakery. Many of the UW Jews don’t keep kosher. It is hard to in a place where they sell “authentic New York style “ ham and cheese bagels.

    Replies: @Lurker, @nebulafox

    the Moslem foreign students buy kosher, because almost the same as Hala

    It’s a shame we don’t hear more about Judeo-Islamic culture.

  107. We fans of German Philosophy know that, according to Hegel, the thing is equal to its opposite.

    So Anti-Racism is just the equal and opposite of Racism. Both absolutely obsessed with Race.

    Who knew?

  108. @peterike
    Forgetting the stupid race aspect of this non-story, I'm almost more offended by this:

    “Home is where we grow together,” a voice-over said. “It’s where the hills are. It’s eating our favorite foods. It’s where we can all harmonize as one. Home is Wisconsin cheese curds. It’s welcoming everyone into our home.”
     
    I cannot stand this sappy, treacly nonsense, whether it's about a university or about a workplace where executives say "we're a family at Widget Corp!".

    No, we're not. School is a place you go to in order to learn something, period. Not to "harmonize as one." Work is where you go to exchange your time and effort for cash. If you're lucky it might accomplish more than that, but it usually doesn't. And neither place is "home."

    Feminine thinking ruins everything.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @prosa123

    I cannot stand this sappy, treacly nonsense, whether it’s about a university or about a workplace where executives say “we’re a family at Widget Corp!”.
    No, we’re not. School is a place you go to in order to learn something, period. Not to “harmonize as one.” Work is where you go to exchange your time and effort for cash. If you’re lucky it might accomplish more than that, but it usually doesn’t. And neither place is “home.”

    Workplaces are far less family-like than colleges. People often maintain family-like ties with their colleges long after graduation: they get alumni publications, cheer for the sports teams, belong to alumni associations, attend homecomings and reunions. Of course many graduates don’t bother to maintain these ties, but if they want to, they can.

    When people leave jobs, in contrast, they seldom if ever have any continuing ties to the employers. It doesn’t matter if they had been there many years and left on completely favorable terms. There aren’t any alumni-style “former employee” associations, no reunions, no homecoming events at the workplaces, no nothing. Most employers use outside companies to handle pensions and 401K’s, so there aren’t even those tenuous ties. Sometimes former employees maintain social ties to former co-workers, but those aren’t company sponsored. It’s really sad.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
    @prosa123

    Yes, it is sad. Many of your co-workers are people you have known for years, people you have spent more time with than members of your own family, and have talked with about things that matter more than which store is running a coupon special this week. You've had wide-ranging discussions in the lunchroom and met each other's families at the company picnic and worked together to accomplish something bigger than yourselves. Then one day it's gone... and you literally never see each other again.

  109. Anon[390] • Disclaimer says:

    I suspect the real reason behind this column is that there were too many pretty WASP white women in the video, and the not-so attractive Jewish female writers of the column got angry and jealous of this. Homecoming is a very WASPy celebration at colleges. Jews have always been thin on the ground at events like these because they’re not into sports, football, and big campus wingdings. Jews sneer at these events for being too plebian and anti-intellectual. (And for being mainly for the most popular students or those with a lot of friends at big state schools–a category Jews tend not to fit into).

    Consequently, these jealous writers go into ‘we don’t belong–we’re still not good enough’ mode, and start privately sniveling about how they can’t land any of those sporty white alpha males, and they start causing trouble about it. They just hate seeing the good men go to those pretty WASP women. Deep down, Jewish women don’t like being able to land only Jewish guys who are fussy and neurotic, out of shape, and who look like their Uncle Morrie. (This description fits most Jewish women, too).

    Jealousy of white women drives most of the malignant motivation behind female Jewish, black, and Hispanic behavior.

  110. @newrouter
    Laura Meckler and Kate Rabinowitz

    then

    Julie Bosman, Emily Shetler and Natalie Yahr

    Is journolist still around?

    Replies: @Pop Warner

    I wonder if the New York Times goes to local JCCs to scout for talent or if they wait for a board member to have a niece/friend of someone at temple to fill a position

  111. Besides a black coach and a black cheerleader, the only Wisconsin diversity I saw in yesterday’s Rose Bowl was on the field.

  112. Anon[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

    Why the heck are all these rich dumb Jews (I presume they’re dumb because they didn’t get into good private liberal arts colleges) going to UW at Madison? Frankly, I’d be going to the University of Hawaii, if I was stuck with picking only a state school. Is it because the Jewish parents want their offspring to marry healthy and normal Midwestern farmboy/girl non-Jews?

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Anon

    Wisconsin-Madison is a very good university. Students who go there aren't "dumb" by any stretch of the imagination.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @SFG
    @Anon

    It's a solid second-tier place, ranked 46th overall. They're behind famous publics like UCLA, Berkeley, UVa, and UNC, but ahead of many others.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anon

    Are you kidding? UW, M is one of the best universities in the US (and the world, of course). They got tons of Nobelists etc.

    If you just want to get laid (and not study too much), then better go to prestigious east coast liberal arts colleges.

  113. @Altai
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Shhh, when people other than white gentiles or Muslims (Or whomever is the 'designated Amalek' du jour) kill Jews it's very 'complicated'.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EM8Lx-UXkAE8Jlt.jpg

    I mean, it'd be interesting if the deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour of Hasids and the tension from the rapidly growing Hasidic community in crowded New York City was discussed, but somehow I don't think it will be.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @El Dato, @Jack D, @Cloudbuster

    A recent NBC news article tried to discuss that issue, but was shouted down as anti-Semitic and victim-blaming, of course.

  114. @Leo D
    @Rosie

    I'm sorry, but the whole minimalist movement is geared to people who have no concept of 'tomorrow'. A space like this supports people who do not live, they exist...

    And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide...and those walls won't be white for long, lol

    Replies: @Rosie

    And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol

    That’s part of the reason people build tiny houses on wheels: to evade building codes that effectively price half the population out of homeownership. I agree with Achmed about this: the government shouldn’t assume that people don’t know to open a window when cooking with gas.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @Rosie

    Your statement:

    "And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol"

    Your statement is incorrect.

    Range hoods are not required for gas stoves. There are millions of households who have gas stoves that do not have exhaust hoods and they operate without incident. Gas stoves are so clean-burning that carbon monoxide is not a problem.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Leo D

    , @Leo D
    @Rosie

    While I agree that a good portion of the building codes are ridiculous, I would have to disagree with the assertion that the 'public' knows best.

    Most people don't know how to change the tire on their car. I wouldn't assume that they have any idea about how to safely cook with gas.

    Building codes are MINIMUM standards by which to build, and keeping people from killing others (don't care so much if they want to kill themselves) is a legitimate function.

    My wife almost died in college because of a leaky flue pipe in a natural gas furnace...this is a REAL risk.

    Do not confuse what the phrase 'clean burning' means. Clean burning refers to there being no soot or ash in the combustion byproducts. There is still carbon monoxide and dioxide, nitrogen oxide and dioxide, and other gaseous byproducts...and they can all kill you in high enough concentrations.

  115. @anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death?
     
    Now that you mention it, whatever happened to the Tessa Majors murder story? I notice the media never mentions it.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @istevefan, @nglaer

    Our diversity might have become a casualty, and that threatened to be the bigger tragedy.

  116. @fish
    @Rosie

    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!

    Replies: @Rosie, @Anon

  117. @Anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    Why the heck are all these rich dumb Jews (I presume they're dumb because they didn't get into good private liberal arts colleges) going to UW at Madison? Frankly, I'd be going to the University of Hawaii, if I was stuck with picking only a state school. Is it because the Jewish parents want their offspring to marry healthy and normal Midwestern farmboy/girl non-Jews?

    Replies: @prosa123, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian

    Wisconsin-Madison is a very good university. Students who go there aren’t “dumb” by any stretch of the imagination.

    • Agree: Paleo Liberal
    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @prosa123

    I took some classes at U of Hawaii about 40 years ago.
    I have a kid at UW.

    Absolutely no comparison.

    My kid at UW is doing research with one of the top names in the field. Unless one is studying vulcanology, that is not possible at UH.

    Replies: @Back1, @The Plutonium Kid

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @prosa123

    Here are Wisconsin-Madison's National, Global, and National Program rankings:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Wisconsin%E2%80%93Madison#Rankings

    They bear out the idea that UW is an excellent school.

  118. @anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death?
     
    Now that you mention it, whatever happened to the Tessa Majors murder story? I notice the media never mentions it.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @istevefan, @nglaer

    If it’s not in the news, did it really happen?

  119. @Possumman
    @Rosie

    You have reinvented the mobile home--only more expensive and with less room

    Replies: @Rosie

    You have reinvented the mobile home–only more expensive and with less room

    And a great deal more beautiful and durable.

    A tiny house will last generations. A tiny house bought by newlyweds can be a home for aging parents, a starter place for a child flying the nest, and then a retirement home in their golden years.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Rosie

    I love the idea of a tiny house. But I wouldn't live in one that wasn't set over a basement. Living on the edge of Tornado Alley, I have to gather up the pets and trundle downstairs to my basement several times a year. Glad I have one. I was living in a trailer when a tornado passed nearby. The trailer rocked ftom side to side, it was truly terrifying.

    , @Possumman
    @Rosie

    But it's still a crappy trailer and can't be parked legally most places

    Replies: @Rosie

  120. @kaganovitch
    @ScarletNumber

    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job.

    UW Madison is something of an outlier though. Student body is 12 percent Jewish, while Jewish population percent in Wisconsin is half of one percent.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @Joe Schmoe

    Why don’t Jews just build their own universities? The have no shortage of talent or funding.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Joe Schmoe

    https://abovethelaw.com/2010/11/turns-out-touro-is-even-crappier-than-we-thought/

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @kaganovitch
    @Joe Schmoe

    There are I think three Jewish founded universities in the USA. Brandeis, Yeshiva and Touro. They all have issues. If Jews were the hive-minded organism the Kmacniki imagine them to be, they would probably be more successful. As it is, Jewish denominationalism prevents each of them and any likely new entrant from appealing across the Jewish spectrum.

    Replies: @Anon

  121. @anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    So what you're saying is that black and jewish kids who hate homecoming and refusd to participate in it must be included in the homecoming video, and the local white kids who do all the work to make the floats, organize the parties, and make the video must mis-represent homecoming as a tradition much beloved by blacks and jews.
    BS

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    Except the video was NOT about the homecoming committee.

    The purpose of the video was to show UW as a welcoming place; a home for people of all backgrounds.

    Whether you like that or not is beside the point.

    They had a job to do, and they failed miserably.

    It is almost impossible to put a camera at a busy random spot at UW without seeing a lot of non-white students. I have been in or near the UW campus more times than I can count. The film crew deliberately sought out non-white organizations, so they had footage.

    For the editors to come up with an ode to diversity which only showed white students was either extreme incompetence or deliberate sabotage. I am kind enough to assume incompetence— that these student editors showed the kind of campus experience they have, without realizing they are not the only students on campus.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Paleo Liberal

    Oh noes! Some white students subverted the subversion! These wreckers, these saboteurs must be hunted down immediately!

    I just looked at the footage. What's the big deal? I see at least a non-white if not several in every scene. The all-white scenes are mainly sportsball. Bread and circuses, isn't that what they are designed for, to keep the white goys occupied with pointless activity? And can you imagine non-whites voluntarily picking up litter?

    Hey, maybe they could have included the Asian students talking obnoxiously loudly in their own language in Computer Aided Engineering while other students have the temerity to try to get their work done at the same time. Or maybe some bicycle/TV thefts with the actual culprits. It would be keeping it real, yo.

    Were any of you curious to see the splash? You know the one I refer to.

  122. @prosa123
    @Anon

    Wisconsin-Madison is a very good university. Students who go there aren't "dumb" by any stretch of the imagination.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I took some classes at U of Hawaii about 40 years ago.
    I have a kid at UW.

    Absolutely no comparison.

    My kid at UW is doing research with one of the top names in the field. Unless one is studying vulcanology, that is not possible at UH.

    • Replies: @Back1
    @Paleo Liberal

    Microbiology is tops at UW. You know why.

    , @The Plutonium Kid
    @Paleo Liberal


    "My kid at UW is doing research with one of the top names in the field. Unless one is studying vulcanology, that is not possible at UH."
     
    Huh?I would have thought the University of Hawaii would have excellent geology and vulcanology departments, considering they've got two of the world's most active volcanoes right in their backyard. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it sounds awfully weird to me. Counterintuitive, I think the word is.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  123. @Bardon Kaldian
    And then....yaaay....

    Playlist | 10 Composers Changing Contemporary Classical Music (Who Also Happen to Be Women)


    https://www.wfmt.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/women-composers.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Kylie

    As a lifelong lover of classical music, I can’t say I really gaf about this drearily predictable development. “Contemporary classical”? Have at it, ladies!

  124. @duncsbaby
    @Dave Pinsen

    I remember once opining on twitter that most of the attacks in NYC by people of color against Jews wasn't so much anti-Semitic as just plain ole anti-white. Jews just happened to be the closest white targets. For that I was accused of Antisemitism.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I remember once opining on twitter that most of the attacks in NYC by people of color against Jews wasn’t so much anti-Semitic as just plain ole anti-white. Jews just happened to be the closest white targets.

    Some black nut went around a central Toronto university neighborhood recently dumping buckets of fecal matter– presumably his own– onto random pedestrians. All of the victims were Chinese.

    Reporters asked both police and students if they thought Chinese were being targeted. Both said no, it’s just that there are nothing but Chinese in the area, so there was no one else to hit.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/it-was-feces-third-poop-attack-in-four-days-has-toronto-students-on-edge

    • Replies: @anon
    @Reg Cæsar

    Reporters asked both police and students if they thought Chinese were being targeted. Both said no, it’s just that there are nothing but Chinese in the area, so there was no one else to hit.

    Oh, that's just what the anti-Orientalites want us all to believe! It's a konspiracy!

  125. @Rosie
    @Possumman


    You have reinvented the mobile home–only more expensive and with less room
     
    And a great deal more beautiful and durable.

    A tiny house will last generations. A tiny house bought by newlyweds can be a home for aging parents, a starter place for a child flying the nest, and then a retirement home in their golden years.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Possumman

    I love the idea of a tiny house. But I wouldn’t live in one that wasn’t set over a basement. Living on the edge of Tornado Alley, I have to gather up the pets and trundle downstairs to my basement several times a year. Glad I have one. I was living in a trailer when a tornado passed nearby. The trailer rocked ftom side to side, it was truly terrifying.

  126. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:

    Here are three long, extensive videos (might contain the whole thing) of the 2010 UW-Madison Homecoming parade. I don’t see one black group in it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4GGyHBW9hg

  127. @Rosie
    @Leo D


    And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol
     
    That's part of the reason people build tiny houses on wheels: to evade building codes that effectively price half the population out of homeownership. I agree with Achmed about this: the government shouldn't assume that people don't know to open a window when cooking with gas.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Leo D

    Your statement:

    “And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol”

    Your statement is incorrect.

    Range hoods are not required for gas stoves. There are millions of households who have gas stoves that do not have exhaust hoods and they operate without incident. Gas stoves are so clean-burning that carbon monoxide is not a problem.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anarchyst

    Even if not required it's an extremely good idea to have one, especially in a "tiny house". Without a hood, your tiny house is going to fill with smoke and set off the smoke alarms if you try to do something like pan grill a steak (note that there is no oven or broiler visible). Everything in your house is going to be coated with fine droplets of grease from frying. There are no upper cabinets so whatever is out on those open shelves is going to get greasy. The whole tiny house is going to smell of whatever you cooked.

    It's especially stupid that in a house with limited storage space that instead of cabinets or at least multiple shelves they waste the entire wall storage space with 3 tiny shelves.

    In a house that size I would have gotten a dual induction burner and called it a day. The flat top can be used as counter space, you don't have hot combustion gasses, etc. It lessens the need for a hood but you need one anyway.

    Some of these concepts photograph well but they're a nightmare to live with in real life.

    Replies: @JMcG

    , @Leo D
    @anarchyst

    My statement was absolutely correct.

    People have been killed by gas furnaces with leaky flue pipes due to the carbon monoxide.

    The combustion products of hydrocarbon fuels (methane, propane, ethane, etc...natural gas, which is a combination of all...mostly methane) and air are carbon dioxide, water, and nitrogen (inert gas from the air), but that is ONLY under perfect stoichiometric conditions, which are NEVER realized in normal everyday circumstances...otherwise add carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides and dioxides, among other byproducts.

    And opening a window only works if the window is on the ceiling.

    Gas is clean-burning only in the sense that there is no soot or ash.

    Please do not EVER burn gas (or anything else, for that matter) indoors without adequayte ventilation.

    Have a safe 2020.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Jack D

  128. How about asking Julio and Treshawn if they want to spend four years sitting through college prep classes or if they would prefer to learn skills paying them $25 -$70 per hour after they graduate trade school. Last I checked the labor rate for routine car brake repair in a garage was $120/ hr. As the white population dwindles, so should the obsession with college “education.”

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @JimB

    When my guy hires Julio or Treyshawn to do brakes, he’s seen his last dollar from me. I’ll go back to doing them myself. That’s one reason not to go near a dealer’s service department.
    I really don’t care how badly a newspaper story is written or inefficiently an app might be coded, but kill my wife because you’re too high or apathetic to do a good job? No thanks.

  129. @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers

    Downstate New Yorkers. Upstaters would fit right in, as Wisconsin is essentially the same, at a lower elevation. Right down to two Great Lakes and millions of cows.

    Something like 85% of Michigan’s early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.

    In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    It’s surprising how much lakefront property in “commie” Madison is private, or controlled by institutions like UW. Little parkland, unlike along Chicago’s big lake or Minneapolis’s many little ones.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing.

    And ride mopeds. I’ve never seen so many anywhere else, even in Europe. This may be due to the city’s complicated street grid– as Madison (the man) was a smaller version of Washington (the man), so is Madison (the city) a shrunken Washington (DC) crammed into a fight isthmus, with conflicting grids at 45° angles.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Reg Cæsar


    Something like 85% of Michigan’s early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.
     
    Not sure the percentage was quite that high. There were quite few folks from New England that moved to Michigan as well.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar


    Something like 85% of Michigan’s early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.
     
    The Germans started coming in large numbers in '48.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  130. @Paleo Liberal
    @prosa123

    I took some classes at U of Hawaii about 40 years ago.
    I have a kid at UW.

    Absolutely no comparison.

    My kid at UW is doing research with one of the top names in the field. Unless one is studying vulcanology, that is not possible at UH.

    Replies: @Back1, @The Plutonium Kid

    Microbiology is tops at UW. You know why.

  131. @Anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    Why the heck are all these rich dumb Jews (I presume they're dumb because they didn't get into good private liberal arts colleges) going to UW at Madison? Frankly, I'd be going to the University of Hawaii, if I was stuck with picking only a state school. Is it because the Jewish parents want their offspring to marry healthy and normal Midwestern farmboy/girl non-Jews?

    Replies: @prosa123, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s a solid second-tier place, ranked 46th overall. They’re behind famous publics like UCLA, Berkeley, UVa, and UNC, but ahead of many others.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @SFG

    I'd say in physics and engineering, it's decidedly ahead of UVA and UNC, and on par with, ahead of, or slightly behind UCLA depending on the specific major. When it comes to public schools in hard STEM fields, Berkeley is in a field of its own on the top, except for EECS and physics, where UIUC is probably in the same tier. Then you have a cluster shortly underneath which I'd put Wisconsin and UCLA, along with Michigan, Texas, and Georgia Tech. It's been a long-time since I've studied this stuff, but that's my impression.

    The exact order depends on the major, of course (in CS, U Washington Seattle would be put in that tier, too), and in physics, it can depend on the type of research going on.

    Of course, it is important to remember that the general curriculum in a field like physics or computer engineering tends to differ very little from school to school. That's the beauty of science and technology: you can empirically judge someone on them knowing their stuff without resorting to branding. The perks of attending a place like Caltech or MIT is in who you meet, both among the student body and among professors. That's changed somewhat due to the level of competition to get into college going through the stratosphere in the past few decades, but it is till there.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  132. The outrage was almost instantaneous.

    But not widespread, I’m guessing, though the authors seem to be leading the readers to that conclusion (implicitly.) By extrapolating recent behavior of the left, one can only assume that – within the next few years – going to a NASCAR event or the Indy 500 or a Bluegrass or polka music festival or visiting Bismarck, North Dakota will be an act of hate that elicits “instantaneous outrage.”

    Like if somebody put up a piece of paper on a public bulletin board reading:

    “…. it’s OK to be white.”

    An idea that’s perfectly legitimate to think and believe, but can’t be spoken out loud or written and posted; can you say, “firebell ringing in the night”?

  133. @The Alarmist
    I just watched the New Year's concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, and couldn't help but notice the orchestra apeared to be entirely white and predominantly male. Tell me the last time you saw an orchestra anywhere else in the world without at least several Asians. Hungary gets all the bad press, but my money is on Austria having a longer life as a nation than their German and Swiss cousins ... hey, Austrians took Germany into two world wars and came out of both comparatively smelling like roses compared to their German cousins.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    I just watched the New Year’s concert by the Vienna Philharmonic, and couldn’t help but notice the orchestra apeared to be entirely white and predominantly male.

    The Church of St Agnes in St Paul was founded by Austrian immigrants in the 1880s, and still has many of their descendants as parishioners. They’ve been keeping the orchestral Mass tradition alive for decades, with 26 a year, the remainder being chanted Gregorian. (It was also a sneaky way to slip in a Latin Mass under Novus Ordo rules.)

    The musicians are moonlighting professionals, though, whose cars can be identified outside by very different bumper stickers. Union rules complicate projects like recordings and broadcasts.

    Also very Austrian are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, portrayed on the church’s ceiling as blond and blue-eyed.

  134. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    @Altai

    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death? Most of the attacks on Hasidic Jews are because they are the whites in proximity to underclass blacks (the Monsey one is an exception in that the perp drove an hour out of his way for it.).

    Replies: @anon, @duncsbaby, @prosa123, @Anon

    Whatever Dave, #NeverForget (לעולם לא נשכח) the all-Negro 761st tank battalion liberated the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald. It was depicted on the PBS documentary “Liberators”. It was Germanic whites, like the ones featured in the UW video, who were the ones putting Jews into cattle cars and gas chambers and it was the blacks, like those ethnically cleansed from that UW video, who freed the Jews. It’s history! People like Ron Unz need to stop reading all those books and see for themselves by watching PBS, The History Channel, The Heroes Channel, Fox News Memorial Day specials, et al. 👊🏻

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Anon

    Nobody's going to remember that was proven false--that's a controversy from 20 years ago.

    , @Alice in Wonderland
    @Anon


    the all-Negro 761st tank battalion liberated the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald.
     
    Who do you think sent them and paid for the whole damned thing? A bunch of white Americans, that's who.
  135. @Ganderson
    @Paleo Liberal

    PL- you are correct. One of my other boys went to Marquette, and had a better experience than the son who went to Beloit.

    Presumably to graduate from MSOE you need to know something.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Paleo Liberal

    Presumably to graduate from MSOE you need to know something.

    Yes, but I was referring to prestige. Doesn’t always correlate to learning!

  136. @Paleo Liberal
    @prosa123

    I took some classes at U of Hawaii about 40 years ago.
    I have a kid at UW.

    Absolutely no comparison.

    My kid at UW is doing research with one of the top names in the field. Unless one is studying vulcanology, that is not possible at UH.

    Replies: @Back1, @The Plutonium Kid

    “My kid at UW is doing research with one of the top names in the field. Unless one is studying vulcanology, that is not possible at UH.”

    Huh?I would have thought the University of Hawaii would have excellent geology and vulcanology departments, considering they’ve got two of the world’s most active volcanoes right in their backyard. I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that it sounds awfully weird to me. Counterintuitive, I think the word is.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @The Plutonium Kid

    As I said, Vulcanology is top notch. I don’t know about their geology department.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  137. anon[145] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @duncsbaby


    I remember once opining on twitter that most of the attacks in NYC by people of color against Jews wasn’t so much anti-Semitic as just plain ole anti-white. Jews just happened to be the closest white targets.
     
    Some black nut went around a central Toronto university neighborhood recently dumping buckets of fecal matter-- presumably his own-- onto random pedestrians. All of the victims were Chinese.

    Reporters asked both police and students if they thought Chinese were being targeted. Both said no, it's just that there are nothing but Chinese in the area, so there was no one else to hit.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/it-was-feces-third-poop-attack-in-four-days-has-toronto-students-on-edge

    Replies: @anon

    Reporters asked both police and students if they thought Chinese were being targeted. Both said no, it’s just that there are nothing but Chinese in the area, so there was no one else to hit.

    Oh, that’s just what the anti-Orientalites want us all to believe! It’s a konspiracy!

  138. @Anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    Why the heck are all these rich dumb Jews (I presume they're dumb because they didn't get into good private liberal arts colleges) going to UW at Madison? Frankly, I'd be going to the University of Hawaii, if I was stuck with picking only a state school. Is it because the Jewish parents want their offspring to marry healthy and normal Midwestern farmboy/girl non-Jews?

    Replies: @prosa123, @SFG, @Bardon Kaldian

    Are you kidding? UW, M is one of the best universities in the US (and the world, of course). They got tons of Nobelists etc.

    If you just want to get laid (and not study too much), then better go to prestigious east coast liberal arts colleges.

  139. @SFG
    @Anon

    It's a solid second-tier place, ranked 46th overall. They're behind famous publics like UCLA, Berkeley, UVa, and UNC, but ahead of many others.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    I’d say in physics and engineering, it’s decidedly ahead of UVA and UNC, and on par with, ahead of, or slightly behind UCLA depending on the specific major. When it comes to public schools in hard STEM fields, Berkeley is in a field of its own on the top, except for EECS and physics, where UIUC is probably in the same tier. Then you have a cluster shortly underneath which I’d put Wisconsin and UCLA, along with Michigan, Texas, and Georgia Tech. It’s been a long-time since I’ve studied this stuff, but that’s my impression.

    The exact order depends on the major, of course (in CS, U Washington Seattle would be put in that tier, too), and in physics, it can depend on the type of research going on.

    Of course, it is important to remember that the general curriculum in a field like physics or computer engineering tends to differ very little from school to school. That’s the beauty of science and technology: you can empirically judge someone on them knowing their stuff without resorting to branding. The perks of attending a place like Caltech or MIT is in who you meet, both among the student body and among professors. That’s changed somewhat due to the level of competition to get into college going through the stratosphere in the past few decades, but it is till there.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @nebulafox

    You're overestimating UIUC and underestimating U Washington by a fair bit.

    Searching UNC's website, I fail to find any mention of an engineering college there.

    UVA's engineering school is surprisingly low in the rankings. They do make sure to crow about how they are, "...the #1 US engineering school for % of woman graduates, among publics with more than 75 graduates..."

    Oh wait.

    I think I just answered my own question.

  140. The only think worse than white people, is if suddenly there are no white people anymore. Who is everyone going to blame? The Jews?

    I wonder if they have really thought about that…

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Dumbo


    The only think worse than white people, is if suddenly there are no white people anymore. Who is everyone going to blame? The Jews?

    I wonder if they have really thought about that…
     

    They've already re-written the narrative on "racism" where it used to be racist to notice color and now it's racist not to (and kowtow to the one with more intersectionality points).  They no doubt think they can keep it up indefinitely.
  141. @Paleo Liberal
    @kaganovitch

    I once talked to the Christian fellow who runs the kosher bakery in Madison.

    The bakery can only survive run by a Christian.

    He says the biggest sales are on Saturday, when the Moslem foreign students buy kosher, because almost the same as Halal. Under Kosher Law, a Jew could not run the store on Saturday. Only a Shabbot Goy. Since the owner is a Goy, he can be his own Goy boy. The Saturday sales keep the store profitable.

    Not enough Jews at UW, even with 12%, to support the bakery. Many of the UW Jews don’t keep kosher. It is hard to in a place where they sell “authentic New York style “ ham and cheese bagels.

    Replies: @Lurker, @nebulafox

    I’ve already mentioned this in other posts, but I’ve known plenty of Muslim dudes who genuinely did not consider themselves at all pious or religious back in their native countries, yet all of a sudden had to reconsider that when they landed in a department that was heavily atheist/agnostic. If you have some vague, residual belief in God and will pray in the context of a life crisis or something, that all of a sudden stands out a lot more.

    It’s not surprising that you see a moderate uptake in them practicing their religion in the States or Europe… or embracing open atheism, depending on the individual.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @nebulafox

    Jews, Muslims plus, perhaps, some Hindus- are "food religionists". Of course these religions are not reducible to what you (don't) eat, but they're, on average, obsessing about food.

    Not being too sensitive re others' religious sensibilities, I sometimes say to my friends (vegans, Muslims, ..): You eat your future shit. Don't be hysterical about an excrement-to-be. And don't think your variant of God is so preoccupied with your poop & piss.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  142. @The Plutonium Kid
    @Paleo Liberal


    "My kid at UW is doing research with one of the top names in the field. Unless one is studying vulcanology, that is not possible at UH."
     
    Huh?I would have thought the University of Hawaii would have excellent geology and vulcanology departments, considering they've got two of the world's most active volcanoes right in their backyard. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it sounds awfully weird to me. Counterintuitive, I think the word is.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    As I said, Vulcanology is top notch. I don’t know about their geology department.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Paleo Liberal


    As I said, Vulcanology is top notch.
     
    A very logical major, indeed.

    https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/768x433/2018/02/star_trek_tv_spock_3_copy_-_h_2018.jpg
  143. @Ganderson
    @Paleo Liberal

    PL- you are correct. One of my other boys went to Marquette, and had a better experience than the son who went to Beloit.

    Presumably to graduate from MSOE you need to know something.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Paleo Liberal

    The best thing about MSOE is their engineers graduate in 4 years, since the students are accepted at the college by their majors. At many of the UW campuses, engineering students generally spend 5 years. MSOE costs more than the UW schools, but the cost of the 5th year vs having a year earning $ makes MSOE cheaper over the 5 year term.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Paleo Liberal

    UW-Madison used to have engineering degrees that could be graduated from in 4 years if you go back to the 1950s or so. However, the school decided to force engineers to take a year of classes such as ethnic studies and other humanities subjects to provide sufficient indoctrination. Their concern was that engineers would become conservative, so they decided to try to socially engineer the engineers into not being conservative, with limited success.

    https://guide.wisc.edu/undergraduate/#requirementsforundergraduatestudytext

    It's kind of ironic that you chose to have hapa kids (a predictably lonely existence with no real community to belong to), you expect the university in a mostly white state to bend over backwards to make your kids feel at home. Which it actually attempts to do so in part by force-feeding engineers the humanities requirements that are not useful on the job.

    And then you praise up MSOE for its great 4 year engineering degree which it either achieves by not including uncessary liberal breadth indoctrination requirements, or skimping on the engineering class requirements. And you can bet it's the former if the school is any good.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  144. @prosa123
    @Anon

    Wisconsin-Madison is a very good university. Students who go there aren't "dumb" by any stretch of the imagination.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Here are Wisconsin-Madison’s National, Global, and National Program rankings:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Wisconsin%E2%80%93Madison#Rankings

    They bear out the idea that UW is an excellent school.

  145. OT – Boris Johnson’s eminence grise, Dom Cummings, is hiring “weirdos and techies” to take on the administrative state.

    If he doesn’t getted swiftly canned, like Bannon, this could get interesting.

    The job ad is rather entertaining. If I was 30 years younger …

    https://dominiccummings.com/2020/01/02/two-hands-are-a-lot-were-hiring-data-scientists-project-managers-policy-experts-assorted-weirdos/

  146. @nebulafox
    @Paleo Liberal

    I've already mentioned this in other posts, but I've known plenty of Muslim dudes who genuinely did not consider themselves at all pious or religious back in their native countries, yet all of a sudden had to reconsider that when they landed in a department that was heavily atheist/agnostic. If you have some vague, residual belief in God and will pray in the context of a life crisis or something, that all of a sudden stands out a lot more.

    It's not surprising that you see a moderate uptake in them practicing their religion in the States or Europe... or embracing open atheism, depending on the individual.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Jews, Muslims plus, perhaps, some Hindus- are “food religionists”. Of course these religions are not reducible to what you (don’t) eat, but they’re, on average, obsessing about food.

    Not being too sensitive re others’ religious sensibilities, I sometimes say to my friends (vegans, Muslims, ..): You eat your future shit. Don’t be hysterical about an excrement-to-be. And don’t think your variant of God is so preoccupied with your poop & piss.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Jews, Muslims plus, perhaps, some Hindus- are “food religionists”.
     
    And drink religionists, too, for Mohammedans, Mormons, and many Protestants.

    Lutherans, long divided among ethnic synods, are quite bipolar by this standard. The Scandinavians are temperate, and the mostly German Missouri Synod is said to be the heaviest-drinking denomination in America. However, that is not through binging, but a with-every-meal custom.

    In the 1912 women's suffrage referendum in Wisconsin, it passed in the western Scandinavian counties, but bombed in Milwaukee and rural German settlements-- among Socialists and conservative farmers alike. I really suspect the underlying issue was looming Prohibition.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  147. @Joe Schmoe
    @kaganovitch

    Why don't Jews just build their own universities? The have no shortage of talent or funding.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @kaganovitch

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @ATBOTL

    The law school is terrible (Judge Freier's alma mater as it happens). The accounting program is world class though.

  148. @Altai
    @Altai

    Actually I completely forgot. This one, from the 'Rhodes Must Fall' protests at the University of Cape Town in South Africa, whose protestors used the language of American critical race theory and which in turn inspired the sudden flash black student protests at US universities a few weeks later.

    Here is art student, Sethembile Msezane, who did this pose during the removal of the statue of Cecil Rhodes. I like the combination of pretentious post-modernism, Beyonce and traditional Zulu aesthetics.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/10178900-3x2-940x627.jpg

    Replies: @vhrm

    How long did she hold that pose?

    My delts are burning just looking at it

  149. @The Plutonium Kid
    As I've said for years and will continue to say:

    Diversity means fewer white people. Diversity always means fewer white people.

    Replies: @anon

    E Pluribus Brown Gruel

  150. @Altai
    OT:
    But here are my two candidates for pictures which sum up the 2010s, defined in their latter half by the Great Awokening (Which is really just the rise of public social media and it's mass embrace particularly by young women).

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ab43b35c258b487055ad91b/1533407058339-86J7LDSI4N4FUIRE4N9A/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPfnpno-qsEd_qjrWa7QDod7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UVlQOtnBLxT8MoNUwNFhCVXhxRzAZuv26UZlysJR7HcEpYUNEwbBj596Zrb0iNlLzA/AnnaleeNewitzCharlieJaneAnders-85.jpg

    You have 20 year old Hispanic BPD FtM (Complete with a goading expression since she assumes everyone hates her and her coping mechanism is to preemptively attack them) and a perfect MtF autogynophile who trooned out in his late 40s.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Judge_Freier_in_City_Hall.jpg

    Next is this one. The swearing ceremony of Judge Rachel Freier, the first Hasidic judge in NYC history. It’s beautiful, almost accidental renaissance. Every little detail in the foreground and background is perfect. (And yes, she is a wearing a replica wig of her own hair over her actual hair to trick god.)

    I can’t tell if the giant Dunkin’Donuts flavoured coffee and giant phablet phones on the desk in full view for the publicity shot or the lonely angry white man on the far right with his arms crossed is the best part.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jack D, @jimmyriddle, @CJ, @Reg Cæsar

    That lady looks like she could dish out some Old Testament justice.

    But the photo is gem –

    the gormless guy to left of Angry White Man
    the rabbi? flinching from the grinning Black guy
    the two Black ladies at the back
    the inscrutible oriental on the left.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @jimmyriddle

    the rabbi? flinching from the grinning Black guy

    The "rabbi" is her husband. Nice fellow.

  151. Well I have a prediction for the whole 2020s decade. Sailer might branch out from quoting Lenin all the time and sometimes Chomsky to discovering more of Eugene Debs. He even has that old-timey red-blooded American nationalist appeal 😉

    In fact one of Sailer’s own aphorisms already sounds very much like Debs. To paraphrase, have you ever noticed all the popular trends and fads serve the rich and powerful, celebrities and adventuresses etc

  152. Apparently there were a few more black-on-Orthodox Jew incidents but they weren’t fatal, and Orthodox Jews held a kind of demonstration at a stadium, but under police protection. Big applause to the New York Times for printing headlines like this at a time when Jews are being attacked in the streets and inside their own homes, you really are the brave movie maquis who stood up to the phantom Nazis.

  153. @prosa123
    @peterike

    I cannot stand this sappy, treacly nonsense, whether it’s about a university or about a workplace where executives say “we’re a family at Widget Corp!”.
    No, we’re not. School is a place you go to in order to learn something, period. Not to “harmonize as one.” Work is where you go to exchange your time and effort for cash. If you’re lucky it might accomplish more than that, but it usually doesn’t. And neither place is “home.”

    Workplaces are far less family-like than colleges. People often maintain family-like ties with their colleges long after graduation: they get alumni publications, cheer for the sports teams, belong to alumni associations, attend homecomings and reunions. Of course many graduates don't bother to maintain these ties, but if they want to, they can.

    When people leave jobs, in contrast, they seldom if ever have any continuing ties to the employers. It doesn't matter if they had been there many years and left on completely favorable terms. There aren't any alumni-style "former employee" associations, no reunions, no homecoming events at the workplaces, no nothing. Most employers use outside companies to handle pensions and 401K's, so there aren't even those tenuous ties. Sometimes former employees maintain social ties to former co-workers, but those aren't company sponsored. It's really sad.

    Replies: @Joseph Doaks

    Yes, it is sad. Many of your co-workers are people you have known for years, people you have spent more time with than members of your own family, and have talked with about things that matter more than which store is running a coupon special this week. You’ve had wide-ranging discussions in the lunchroom and met each other’s families at the company picnic and worked together to accomplish something bigger than yourselves. Then one day it’s gone… and you literally never see each other again.

    • Agree: vhrm
  154. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    “Sara Goldrick-Rab”... It’s never surprising to see Chosenites behind the agitation against whites. From Ferguson to Madison the NYT hammers away at ‘white is not all right’. Read E. Michael Jones’ The Slaughter of Cities. Our once-beautiful American cities were destroyed by Jews manipulating WASPs and blacks (Jewish proxy warriors) into ethically cleansing traditional white ethic neighborhoods. But it’s never enough for (((them))).

    Meanwhile every January 1st (including yesterday) 90,000 people get together for Siyum HaShas (aka ‘Jewish Super Bowl’) at MetLife Stadium in a diverse tri-state area and yet there is zero diversity. Not one black or brown or yellow face. This group is three times the size as the Wisconsin-Madison student body and right at the feet of the NYT. But for some reason it’s presented as a DIE event:


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/nyregion/jewish-attacks-monsey-Daf-Yomi.html

    90,000 Jews Gather to Pray and Defy a Wave of Hate

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/01/nyregion/01talmud01/01talmud01-facebookJumbo.jpg
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Charon, @Yngvar

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam, yo! We are the good patriarchy!

    Non-Jewish white male event is either illegal or should be illegal as it is literally anudah Shoah.

    So, so tiresome.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don't care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see "women of the wall etc. etc.)

    Replies: @Dissident, @Anonymous, @Anon

  155. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn't that what's important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly - even secretly - knew that blacks and browns weren't as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their "white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC" ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    Replies: @Moses, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Prester John, @ATBOTL, @El Dato, @Kronos, @joe862

    Don’t confuse the teacher’s pet (aka Boomer’s Bitch) with the cool kids in the classroom. The kids will follow the cool ones every single time if given the chance. One Mrs. Boomer is removed, the puppet regime of the student body President will crumble.

    The “Woke” Millennials are a mix between mercenary grifters and low ability Boomer slaves. Both try to kiss ass to land a decent paying job in the education/public center. Once the Boomers recede from the picture, the wokeness stuff will collapse faster than Howard Dean’s 2004 Presidential bid. Remember, the majority of Millennials are far more concerned about economics than the Boomer culture wars. Trump protectionism and Bernie socialism are powerful brands. Also, the woke Boomers have barely invested any true political/financial assets into any generational successor. The younger nutty people will only last long enough until the boomers die in retirement. You think the average university is going to last through 2035?! Think again.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Kronos


    Don’t confuse the teacher’s pet (aka Boomer’s Bitch) with the cool kids in the classroom. The kids will follow the cool ones every single time if given the chance. One Mrs. Boomer is removed, the puppet regime of the student body President will crumble.
     
    I think you're on to something there. Most of the "woke" crowd, especially the White ones, are just toadies. They serve a power external to themselves. It does feel like a prison environment in which a few people act tough (the PC crowd) as long as the warden is around to protect them.

    Replies: @Kronos

  156. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    @anon

    Except the video was NOT about the homecoming committee.

    The purpose of the video was to show UW as a welcoming place; a home for people of all backgrounds.

    Whether you like that or not is beside the point.

    They had a job to do, and they failed miserably.

    It is almost impossible to put a camera at a busy random spot at UW without seeing a lot of non-white students. I have been in or near the UW campus more times than I can count. The film crew deliberately sought out non-white organizations, so they had footage.

    For the editors to come up with an ode to diversity which only showed white students was either extreme incompetence or deliberate sabotage. I am kind enough to assume incompetence— that these student editors showed the kind of campus experience they have, without realizing they are not the only students on campus.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Oh noes! Some white students subverted the subversion! These wreckers, these saboteurs must be hunted down immediately!

    I just looked at the footage. What’s the big deal? I see at least a non-white if not several in every scene. The all-white scenes are mainly sportsball. Bread and circuses, isn’t that what they are designed for, to keep the white goys occupied with pointless activity? And can you imagine non-whites voluntarily picking up litter?

    Hey, maybe they could have included the Asian students talking obnoxiously loudly in their own language in Computer Aided Engineering while other students have the temerity to try to get their work done at the same time. Or maybe some bicycle/TV thefts with the actual culprits. It would be keeping it real, yo.

    Were any of you curious to see the splash? You know the one I refer to.

  157. @Dumbo
    The only think worse than white people, is if suddenly there are no white people anymore. Who is everyone going to blame? The Jews?

    I wonder if they have really thought about that...

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    The only think worse than white people, is if suddenly there are no white people anymore. Who is everyone going to blame? The Jews?

    I wonder if they have really thought about that…

    They’ve already re-written the narrative on “racism” where it used to be racist to notice color and now it’s racist not to (and kowtow to the one with more intersectionality points).  They no doubt think they can keep it up indefinitely.

  158. @Rosie
    @GodHelpUs


    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.
     
    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don't need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I'm glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/d8/5d/2dd85dd679c7242285ac6325d75f3707.jpg

    Replies: @Johnny789, @Leo D, @fish, @Possumman, @nymom, @Jack D

    BTW, this apartment is adorable…

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @nymom

    s/apartment/walk-in closet/

  159. @Reg Cæsar
    @Paleo Liberal


    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers
     
    Downstate New Yorkers. Upstaters would fit right in, as Wisconsin is essentially the same, at a lower elevation. Right down to two Great Lakes and millions of cows.

    Something like 85% of Michigan's early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.

    In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.
     
    It's surprising how much lakefront property in "commie" Madison is private, or controlled by institutions like UW. Little parkland, unlike along Chicago's big lake or Minneapolis's many little ones.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing.
     
    And ride mopeds. I've never seen so many anywhere else, even in Europe. This may be due to the city's complicated street grid-- as Madison (the man) was a smaller version of Washington (the man), so is Madison (the city) a shrunken Washington (DC) crammed into a fight isthmus, with conflicting grids at 45° angles.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hibernian

    Something like 85% of Michigan’s early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.

    Not sure the percentage was quite that high. There were quite few folks from New England that moved to Michigan as well.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    Not sure the percentage was quite that high. There were quite few folks from New England that moved to Michigan as well.
     
    Those born in New England but spent considerable time in the Empire State before going west-- obvious examples being Joseph Smith and Brigham Young-- count as coming "from New York". NE >NY >MI was at least as common as directly NE>MI. In my family we had both, as well as PA>NY>MI , NJ>NY>MI, and NY>IN>MI.

    When the better Holland Purchase land was all scooped up, western New Yorkers got "Michigan fever" from speculators farther west. Many of them were born in other states or Canada. Of course, the 85% figure may include anyone who spent any time at all in New York, and thus be exaggerated.
  160. @nebulafox
    @SFG

    I'd say in physics and engineering, it's decidedly ahead of UVA and UNC, and on par with, ahead of, or slightly behind UCLA depending on the specific major. When it comes to public schools in hard STEM fields, Berkeley is in a field of its own on the top, except for EECS and physics, where UIUC is probably in the same tier. Then you have a cluster shortly underneath which I'd put Wisconsin and UCLA, along with Michigan, Texas, and Georgia Tech. It's been a long-time since I've studied this stuff, but that's my impression.

    The exact order depends on the major, of course (in CS, U Washington Seattle would be put in that tier, too), and in physics, it can depend on the type of research going on.

    Of course, it is important to remember that the general curriculum in a field like physics or computer engineering tends to differ very little from school to school. That's the beauty of science and technology: you can empirically judge someone on them knowing their stuff without resorting to branding. The perks of attending a place like Caltech or MIT is in who you meet, both among the student body and among professors. That's changed somewhat due to the level of competition to get into college going through the stratosphere in the past few decades, but it is till there.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    You’re overestimating UIUC and underestimating U Washington by a fair bit.

    Searching UNC’s website, I fail to find any mention of an engineering college there.

    UVA’s engineering school is surprisingly low in the rankings. They do make sure to crow about how they are, “…the #1 US engineering school for % of woman graduates, among publics with more than 75 graduates…”

    Oh wait.

    I think I just answered my own question.

  161. @anarchyst
    @Rosie

    Your statement:

    "And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol"

    Your statement is incorrect.

    Range hoods are not required for gas stoves. There are millions of households who have gas stoves that do not have exhaust hoods and they operate without incident. Gas stoves are so clean-burning that carbon monoxide is not a problem.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Leo D

    Even if not required it’s an extremely good idea to have one, especially in a “tiny house”. Without a hood, your tiny house is going to fill with smoke and set off the smoke alarms if you try to do something like pan grill a steak (note that there is no oven or broiler visible). Everything in your house is going to be coated with fine droplets of grease from frying. There are no upper cabinets so whatever is out on those open shelves is going to get greasy. The whole tiny house is going to smell of whatever you cooked.

    It’s especially stupid that in a house with limited storage space that instead of cabinets or at least multiple shelves they waste the entire wall storage space with 3 tiny shelves.

    In a house that size I would have gotten a dual induction burner and called it a day. The flat top can be used as counter space, you don’t have hot combustion gasses, etc. It lessens the need for a hood but you need one anyway.

    Some of these concepts photograph well but they’re a nightmare to live with in real life.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Jack D

    Before my recent kitchen remodel, we had one of those vent hoods that just recycled “filtered” air. Now I have to strap the pots down to keep them on the burners. Water boils at 207 F due to the reduced atmospheric pressure in my kitchen. Oh how I love my range hood!
    Happy New Year Jack.

    Replies: @Jack D

  162. @Bardon Kaldian
    @nebulafox

    Jews, Muslims plus, perhaps, some Hindus- are "food religionists". Of course these religions are not reducible to what you (don't) eat, but they're, on average, obsessing about food.

    Not being too sensitive re others' religious sensibilities, I sometimes say to my friends (vegans, Muslims, ..): You eat your future shit. Don't be hysterical about an excrement-to-be. And don't think your variant of God is so preoccupied with your poop & piss.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Jews, Muslims plus, perhaps, some Hindus- are “food religionists”.

    And drink religionists, too, for Mohammedans, Mormons, and many Protestants.

    Lutherans, long divided among ethnic synods, are quite bipolar by this standard. The Scandinavians are temperate, and the mostly German Missouri Synod is said to be the heaviest-drinking denomination in America. However, that is not through binging, but a with-every-meal custom.

    In the 1912 women’s suffrage referendum in Wisconsin, it passed in the western Scandinavian counties, but bombed in Milwaukee and rural German settlements– among Socialists and conservative farmers alike. I really suspect the underlying issue was looming Prohibition.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Reg Cæsar

    Most German Lutherans & High Anglicans are, basically, Catholics who had poisoned their Pope & are trying to get away & from it, by offering numerous absurd excuses they themselves don't believe in, something along the lines of "Dagos were stealing all the good stuff & we were left hungry".

    But, the divine retribution came with the shot right out of Hell: Prohibitionist, castrating schoolmarms; all with their temperance zeal to clobber their hubbies (and everyone else) into a - literally- spiritless imitation of life not worth living.

  163. @william munny
    This is a racism.

    The students of color have a constitutional right not to lose their flavor by being exposed to so much Caucasianness.

    Next thing you know, they will be discussing the weather.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Emilie Cochran, a reporter for The Badger Herald student newspaper who covered the story: It made people uncomfortable, seeing a lot of people who look alike representing the university. And it woke people up, saying, this is actually what our university looks like. …

    So the whole story is that a video accurately represented the student body as being almost entirely White. This triggers the usual robotic social media whining and faux-outrage that White people are actual allowed to exist in large numbers. The New York Times turns this into a book-length article with ad nauseam repetition of SJW nostrums. Deja Vu, all over again.

    But if “Diversity” was really a strength we would be allowed to have a diversity of college demographic choices — i.e., some White, some non-White, and others mixed in various proportions. That way everyone could chose the mix they preferred and if one or another of these choices was objectively better for education that result would become apparent.

    The one bright spot is that publicizing UW’s Whiteness will probably improve recruitment as, regardless of what they may say, most people demonstrably prefer Whiteness to the alternative.

    • Agree: Hong Kong Hibernian
  164. @Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Whatever Dave, #NeverForget (לעולם לא נשכח) the all-Negro 761st tank battalion liberated the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald. It was depicted on the PBS documentary "Liberators". It was Germanic whites, like the ones featured in the UW video, who were the ones putting Jews into cattle cars and gas chambers and it was the blacks, like those ethnically cleansed from that UW video, who freed the Jews. It’s history! People like Ron Unz need to stop reading all those books and see for themselves by watching PBS, The History Channel, The Heroes Channel, Fox News Memorial Day specials, et al. 👊🏻

    Replies: @SFG, @Alice in Wonderland

    Nobody’s going to remember that was proven false–that’s a controversy from 20 years ago.

  165. @Rosie
    @GodHelpUs


    Bring the troops home, end the entangling alliances, ween the addiction to cheap Asian consumer goods.
     
    We are going to have to give up consumerism one way or the other. I was just thinking the other day that refrigerators are obsolete. We really don't need them anymore. Coolers have gotten so effective at keeping food cold that a person could manage without one easily. Chest freezers are cheap and energy efficient. Swapping out an ice pack every day for an ice box would be no trouble at all.

    I'm glad to see that people are thinking about simplifying their lives, but I would prefer it not be under the economic duress of globalization.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/d8/5d/2dd85dd679c7242285ac6325d75f3707.jpg

    Replies: @Johnny789, @Leo D, @fish, @Possumman, @nymom, @Jack D

    Here’s an idea – everyone could have a large insulated box – sort of like an oversized cooler. Every couple of days a man would come by and deliver to you a large block of ice.

    It’s a good thing that there appear to be no large appliances (fridge, stove, washing machine, etc.) in that space because you’re not going to get them thru what looks like an 18″ door opening. For that matter, how did they get those base cabinets in there unless they were flat pack Ikea stuff?

    The space looks terrifically uncluttered but don’t the owners want a coffee machine and a toaster oven at a minimum (since there doesn’t appear to be a real oven)? And a dish drainer since there’s no dishwasher? Maybe a paper towel holder? Some kind of task lighting so you can see what is cooking at night? There goes your uncluttered look.

    I’m really not that wild about slippery varnished staircases that are open on one side or a mattress on the floor or hard stools without backs. A lot of these concepts are great when you are 25 years old but what happens when you get older?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    I’m really not that wild about slippery varnished staircases that are open on one side or a mattress on the floor or hard stools without backs. A lot of these concepts are great when you are 25 years old but what happens when you get older?
     
    You hang onto that handrail for dear life.
    , @Alden
    @Jack D

    That staircase without a rail is against every building code. Simple to put one in. But it would add another element. Except for the kitchen, it looks like slave quarters. Work and sleep. That’s your life.

    Take care of grease and steam by using covers on pans all the time. You’d still get the mess but much less of it.

    Replies: @Jack D

  166. @Paleo Liberal
    @The Plutonium Kid

    As I said, Vulcanology is top notch. I don’t know about their geology department.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    As I said, Vulcanology is top notch.

    A very logical major, indeed.

  167. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @fish
    @Rosie

    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!

    Replies: @Rosie, @Anon

    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!

    Quit being lazy. My father who’s close to the aforementioned age works nearly seven days a week as a self-employed carpenter. One of my uncles who’s in his 80’s, a former Marine and cancer survivor, works 12 hour days and seven days a week during the busy season as a self-employed landscaper. Another one of my uncles, who’s in his 90’s, recently put a new roof on his farm house — by himself. Furthermore, a former climbing partner of mine who is double my age, summited a couple of the worlds most iconic and dangerous peaks while in his 70’s — and we did one of those together under extremely challenging conditions.

    • Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Anon

    Well I'm 98 and I eat pennies and batteries for breakfast and shit brass doorknobs.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anon

    Your anecdote is very impressive, but I would posit that the gentlemen you mention are all far out on the right tail of the distribution of physical health and capability for their respective ages.

    Some of that, as you mention, is them not being lazy. However, good genetics is also a huge factor.

    A lot of folks are betrayed by their genes by those ages. That betrayal could be a specific condition, like cancer, or the general decline that comes as we all age.

    Replies: @Anon

  168. Like I said:

    Ghislaine Maxwell’s powerful contacts protecting her in safe houses

    “Ghislaine is protected. She and Jeffrey were assets of sorts for multiple foreign governments. They would trade information about the powerful people caught in his net — caught at Epstein’s house.”

    Jeffrey Epstein’s socialite ‘madam’ Ghislaine Maxwell ‘is being hidden from the FBI in a series of safe houses because of the information she has on powerful people’

    Born in France, Maxwell is both a U.S. citizen and British subject. Her family’s alleged ties to Israel’s national intelligence service, Mossad, have been well documented.

    Maxwell’s father, Robert Maxwell, was a Czech-born British media mogul whose financial fraud in raiding the Mirror Group pension fund was discovered after his death in 1991.

    Also a British member of parliament, Robert Maxwell reportedly had ties to British intelligence, the Soviet KGB, and Mossad — and was suspected of being a double or even triple agent by British Foreign Office officials.

  169. @Kronos
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Don’t confuse the teacher’s pet (aka Boomer’s Bitch) with the cool kids in the classroom. The kids will follow the cool ones every single time if given the chance. One Mrs. Boomer is removed, the puppet regime of the student body President will crumble.

    https://youtu.be/4Gm5jNvVSUc

    The “Woke” Millennials are a mix between mercenary grifters and low ability Boomer slaves. Both try to kiss ass to land a decent paying job in the education/public center. Once the Boomers recede from the picture, the wokeness stuff will collapse faster than Howard Dean’s 2004 Presidential bid. Remember, the majority of Millennials are far more concerned about economics than the Boomer culture wars. Trump protectionism and Bernie socialism are powerful brands. Also, the woke Boomers have barely invested any true political/financial assets into any generational successor. The younger nutty people will only last long enough until the boomers die in retirement. You think the average university is going to last through 2035?! Think again.

    https://youtu.be/RwkNnMrsx7Q

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Don’t confuse the teacher’s pet (aka Boomer’s Bitch) with the cool kids in the classroom. The kids will follow the cool ones every single time if given the chance. One Mrs. Boomer is removed, the puppet regime of the student body President will crumble.

    I think you’re on to something there. Most of the “woke” crowd, especially the White ones, are just toadies. They serve a power external to themselves. It does feel like a prison environment in which a few people act tough (the PC crowd) as long as the warden is around to protect them.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @RichardTaylor

    Those younger generational toadies are more than willing to assist the new left boomers in pretending to re-create the 1960s revolutionary zeal. That it resembles something akin to a fractal repeating itself. (Though ultimately it can never replicate itself past the boomers.) The more capable toadies are very much the Harry Flashman types that can play the noble role but will run off/betray once given the chance.

    http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/fractals/carlson/cmphx09.gif

    Strangely enough you do kinda see this in the new Star Wars films.

    https://youtu.be/QM2zcv5AfaM

    Also, from Trevor Lynch.
    https://www.unz.com/tlynch/the-force-awakens/


    P.S. If you REALLY want to see 1960s leftist boomer self-aggrandizement, see Stephan King’s recent tv series “Castle Rock.” A adopted black son of liberal boomer parents returns home to Maine. He’s a criminal lawyer who defends death row inmates in evil Texas (but not too successfully.) He drives around a small town food desert (in a Subaru Outback no less) to work a strange case based on a short phone call. That a mysterious man found in the basement of a evil private prison is being kept there based on no charges.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  170. @anon
    @Dave Pinsen


    Was the “deeply ethnocentric and anti-social outgroup hostile behaviour” of Tessa Majors why she was stabbed to death?
     
    Now that you mention it, whatever happened to the Tessa Majors murder story? I notice the media never mentions it.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @istevefan, @nglaer

    @Disclaimer

    The perps have lawyered up and are under age. Cops trying to find DNA evidence. Lawyers claiming intitlal semi confession illegal. Even if convicted, they’ll be back on the street in time for “college”.
    Effect on Barnard girls wokeness quotient, not yet known.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @nglaer

    Apparently the stabber's family hid him up in the Bronx until the bite marks healed.

  171. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Here's an idea - everyone could have a large insulated box - sort of like an oversized cooler. Every couple of days a man would come by and deliver to you a large block of ice.

    It's a good thing that there appear to be no large appliances (fridge, stove, washing machine, etc.) in that space because you're not going to get them thru what looks like an 18" door opening. For that matter, how did they get those base cabinets in there unless they were flat pack Ikea stuff?

    The space looks terrifically uncluttered but don't the owners want a coffee machine and a toaster oven at a minimum (since there doesn't appear to be a real oven)? And a dish drainer since there's no dishwasher? Maybe a paper towel holder? Some kind of task lighting so you can see what is cooking at night? There goes your uncluttered look.

    I'm really not that wild about slippery varnished staircases that are open on one side or a mattress on the floor or hard stools without backs. A lot of these concepts are great when you are 25 years old but what happens when you get older?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

    I’m really not that wild about slippery varnished staircases that are open on one side or a mattress on the floor or hard stools without backs. A lot of these concepts are great when you are 25 years old but what happens when you get older?

    You hang onto that handrail for dear life.

  172. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @ScarletNumber
    @Paleo Liberal


    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids.
     
    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job. No matter which particular school you went to, on football Saturdays there is a bar that caters to your fellow alumni.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Anon

    This is true of the entire Big 10. There are plenty of kids who grow up in the NYC area, go to their Big 10 school, then return home to get their Wall Street job.

    This has been my experience as well. I went to a prominent Big 10 school for undergrad and it was inundated by kids from the NYC metro area, especially Westchester. These kids were mostly fake and tried way too hard to dumb themselves down in order to fit in with kids from throughout the rural parts of the state — and even some of the larger metros that embodied a completely different mindset than what’s found in NYC. I once had a roommate from a wealthy, semi-rural town north of NYC. Her father would send her a thousand dollars here, a thousand dollars there, and even funded her lavish spring break trips to exotic destinations. My roommate would downplay this and I could tell that she were somewhat ashamed of her ease of access to nearly unlimited resources, while our other roommates and I would work countless hours at local businesses in addition to counting our pennies after selling back textbooks and/or our plasma to the local BioLife, while maintaining full course loads — often of 18 credits or more in STEM or business.

    My former NYer friend did move back to work and live in the NYC metro, but has since left to live in other “trendy” socialist meccas such as Boulder.

  173. @Rosie
    @Possumman


    You have reinvented the mobile home–only more expensive and with less room
     
    And a great deal more beautiful and durable.

    A tiny house will last generations. A tiny house bought by newlyweds can be a home for aging parents, a starter place for a child flying the nest, and then a retirement home in their golden years.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Possumman

    But it’s still a crappy trailer and can’t be parked legally most places

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Possumman


    But it’s still a crappy trailer and can’t be parked legally most places
     
    It's not a crappy trailer, but it's true that it can't be parked legally in most places. Whether that will continue to be the case I'm not sure. If boomers want to make themselves useful in their final years, they might throw their weight behind the tiny house movement. We'll see.

    Replies: @Jack D

  174. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    “Sara Goldrick-Rab”... It’s never surprising to see Chosenites behind the agitation against whites. From Ferguson to Madison the NYT hammers away at ‘white is not all right’. Read E. Michael Jones’ The Slaughter of Cities. Our once-beautiful American cities were destroyed by Jews manipulating WASPs and blacks (Jewish proxy warriors) into ethically cleansing traditional white ethic neighborhoods. But it’s never enough for (((them))).

    Meanwhile every January 1st (including yesterday) 90,000 people get together for Siyum HaShas (aka ‘Jewish Super Bowl’) at MetLife Stadium in a diverse tri-state area and yet there is zero diversity. Not one black or brown or yellow face. This group is three times the size as the Wisconsin-Madison student body and right at the feet of the NYT. But for some reason it’s presented as a DIE event:


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/nyregion/jewish-attacks-monsey-Daf-Yomi.html

    90,000 Jews Gather to Pray and Defy a Wave of Hate

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/01/nyregion/01talmud01/01talmud01-facebookJumbo.jpg
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Charon, @Yngvar

    Ann Coulter has been on a tear lately, ripping apart prime sources of anti-white hatred in the mass media. And daring to name the actual miscreants behind them.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2019-12-31.html

    She needs to write a book with this singular focus. Is anyone else (similarly prominent) doing work like this?

    It’s good to see her drawing blood. But we need a dozen more like her.

  175. @Reg Cæsar
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Jews, Muslims plus, perhaps, some Hindus- are “food religionists”.
     
    And drink religionists, too, for Mohammedans, Mormons, and many Protestants.

    Lutherans, long divided among ethnic synods, are quite bipolar by this standard. The Scandinavians are temperate, and the mostly German Missouri Synod is said to be the heaviest-drinking denomination in America. However, that is not through binging, but a with-every-meal custom.

    In the 1912 women's suffrage referendum in Wisconsin, it passed in the western Scandinavian counties, but bombed in Milwaukee and rural German settlements-- among Socialists and conservative farmers alike. I really suspect the underlying issue was looming Prohibition.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Most German Lutherans & High Anglicans are, basically, Catholics who had poisoned their Pope & are trying to get away & from it, by offering numerous absurd excuses they themselves don’t believe in, something along the lines of “Dagos were stealing all the good stuff & we were left hungry”.

    But, the divine retribution came with the shot right out of Hell: Prohibitionist, castrating schoolmarms; all with their temperance zeal to clobber their hubbies (and everyone else) into a – literally- spiritless imitation of life not worth living.

  176. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    @Ganderson

    The best thing about MSOE is their engineers graduate in 4 years, since the students are accepted at the college by their majors. At many of the UW campuses, engineering students generally spend 5 years. MSOE costs more than the UW schools, but the cost of the 5th year vs having a year earning $ makes MSOE cheaper over the 5 year term.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    UW-Madison used to have engineering degrees that could be graduated from in 4 years if you go back to the 1950s or so. However, the school decided to force engineers to take a year of classes such as ethnic studies and other humanities subjects to provide sufficient indoctrination. Their concern was that engineers would become conservative, so they decided to try to socially engineer the engineers into not being conservative, with limited success.

    https://guide.wisc.edu/undergraduate/#requirementsforundergraduatestudytext

    It’s kind of ironic that you chose to have hapa kids (a predictably lonely existence with no real community to belong to), you expect the university in a mostly white state to bend over backwards to make your kids feel at home. Which it actually attempts to do so in part by force-feeding engineers the humanities requirements that are not useful on the job.

    And then you praise up MSOE for its great 4 year engineering degree which it either achieves by not including uncessary liberal breadth indoctrination requirements, or skimping on the engineering class requirements. And you can bet it’s the former if the school is any good.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    My kid at UW Madison is not an engineer, and will graduate in 4 years. Already had a job lined up before the end of junior year. Already has a paper in a refereed journal in the pipeline.

    I am not expecting anyone to bend over backwards. My kid at UW is extremely outgoing and has a group of friends, some dating back to elementary school. Spent New Year’s Eve with a group that included her best friend from kindergarten. Nothing lonely about that existence.

    Nothing contradictory. UW is a great school. For engineering, MSOE is a great school.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  177. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    While I’m sure there are some, I don’t think that most Gen-Xers that feel this way. They are more like Boomers in that regard at least. I assume you are talking about Millenials. And maybe even then there’s some hope they may mellow out as they get older.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    The problem is the size of the white Gen-X population. The boomers are 80% white , while Gen-X is just 61% white.

    There are about 55 million White Boomers alive and just 42 million white Gen-X alive today. So as the boomers pass away we lose millions of whites

  178. @jimmyriddle
    @Altai

    That lady looks like she could dish out some Old Testament justice.

    But the photo is gem -

    the gormless guy to left of Angry White Man
    the rabbi? flinching from the grinning Black guy
    the two Black ladies at the back
    the inscrutible oriental on the left.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    the rabbi? flinching from the grinning Black guy

    The “rabbi” is her husband. Nice fellow.

  179. @ATBOTL
    @Joe Schmoe

    https://abovethelaw.com/2010/11/turns-out-touro-is-even-crappier-than-we-thought/

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    The law school is terrible (Judge Freier’s alma mater as it happens). The accounting program is world class though.

  180. @Johnny789
    @Rosie

    Besides all of the other problems I see in this picture, why in the hell would you need a stove with 4 gas burners?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Rosie, @Jim Christian, @ScarletNumber, @peterike, @JerseyJeffersonian

    Well, some of us actually cook. You know, that archaic activity largely superceded by warming up frozen stuff in a microwave oven.

    We use an induction cooktop; no open flame, magnetic induction in specially fabricated vessels, so no compelling necessity for a range hood to draw off the heat, particularly in the summer, rather a rise-up downdraft ventilation fan across the back of the cooktop that pulls out steam and cooking odors at need. And yes, the cooktop can accomodate 4 pans/kettles, & we see that fairly often.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @JerseyJeffersonian


    We use an induction cooktop; no open flame
     
    Yep. Induction cooking is another technology advancement that facilitates tiny living, and you get results that are as good or better than gas.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    , @Jack D
    @JerseyJeffersonian


    specially fabricated vessels
     
    This makes induction sound much more exotic than it really is. All you need to do is to use pots that a magnet will stick to. Plain old cast iron works great as does current generation tri-ply cookware. Aluminum is a no go.

    It's true that induction gives off a lot less heat than gas (much of the heat from a gas flame ends up in the air and not in the pot) but you still want to have a vent hood with induction to carry off smoke, steam and fumes. Downdraft makes no sense - smoke RISES. Have you ever seen a downdraft vent in a restaurant kitchen?

  181. @nglaer
    @anon

    @Disclaimer

    The perps have lawyered up and are under age. Cops trying to find DNA evidence. Lawyers claiming intitlal semi confession illegal. Even if convicted, they'll be back on the street in time for "college".
    Effect on Barnard girls wokeness quotient, not yet known.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Apparently the stabber’s family hid him up in the Bronx until the bite marks healed.

  182. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    No. The next decade will be different. The Boomers will finally retire and a new generation of true believers will replace them. White Boomers, even a lot of liberal ones, still cling to the ideas of equality under the law and a color-blind society. It just feels so nice (and isn't that what's important, that Boomers feel good about themselves). They also quietly - even secretly - knew that blacks and browns weren't as smart of as whites and, later, Asians, so they never wanted to follow the logic of their "white racism is responsible for all the ills of POC" ideology to its obvious conclusion: Whites need to be punished, maybe destroyed.

    But the next generation actually believe this to be the truth. As Boomers retire and they step into power, they will demand that whites be punished for the lack of equal outcomes. Race will become an open subject. Differing racial outcomes will be used to justify ever more stringent policies to erase those gaps.

    Right now the Who, Whom is more rhetorical. Over the next decade or two, it will become more personal, more physical.

    Replies: @Moses, @Hapalong Cassidy, @Prester John, @ATBOTL, @El Dato, @Kronos, @joe862

    I’m gen x and think boomers are a plague of childish idiots. The left-leaning ones are absurdly childish in their dogma and the right-leaning ones are just as bad. I’ve said for a long time that having boomer parents makes your perception of your parents over time the opposite of what it should be. You’re supposed to think you know everything when you’re 15 and by the time you’re 30 realize your parents knew what they were talking about. If your parents are boomers you thought they were pretty cool when you were 15 and by the time you were 30 couldn’t believe what idiots they are. I can’t wait for them to be out of the workplace. So many do-nothings who seem to sincerely believe themselves to be hard-working. I could go on and on.

    There’s an arc that gen x is on. Whichever way your boomer parents leaned, you were sent out into the world with a head full of childish idiocy. You essentially grew up without adults. You spend a bunch of years with alfred e neumans for authority figures trying to make sense of the world. I don’t think it’s that easy to tell what gen x thinks.

  183. @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam, yo! We are the good patriarchy!

    Non-Jewish white male event is either illegal or should be illegal as it is literally anudah Shoah.

    So, so tiresome.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see “women of the wall etc. etc.)

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @kaganovitch


    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see “women of the wall etc. etc.)
     
    That is all correct except it should perhaps be noted that what is being referred-to as Tikkun Olam is a perversion of the authentic Judaic concept by that name. I have elaborated upon this in a number of past comments, most recently this one.

    Incidentally, is your posting handle a reference to the infamous Lazar Kaganovitch?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Anonymous
    @kaganovitch

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see “women of the wall etc. etc.)

    I am ridiculing the NYT and general establishment's love and approval of the Jewish ethnicity's all-white male event (subgroup completely irrelevant) when we all know that any other white goy male event, religious or otherwise would be written about as some dark, foreboding coming of a new Hitler.

    Replies: @Dissident

    , @Anon
    @kaganovitch


    R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam
     
    Lie. Tikkum Olam isn't even analogy for the work to make the Messianic Period come. Its literally one and the same. The entire point of all Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, is their Messianic Period of World domination.

    Replies: @Dissident

  184. “We have Hate Hoaxes…”

    And we also have Hate Crimes. Like, actual occurrences. You probably should pay closer attention, Mr. Sailer.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hate-crimes-data-released-today-2019-11-12/

    NOTICE that the media is also accounting for the rise in “hate hoaxes”.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/are-hate-crime-hoaxes-on-the-rise-along-with-real-hate-crimes/2019/12/05/de339302-0a44-11ea-97ac-a7ccc8dd1ebc_story.html

    https://www.city-journal.org/campus-hate-crime-hoaxes

    Of course, these offenders should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But their illegal acts does not mean that “hate crimes” are generally hoaxes.

    “and also Hate Hysteria”.

    And as our resident Alt Right race baiter, Mr. Sailer relishes the responsibility, especially after his coffers have been filled.

  185. @Anonymous
    @Paleo Liberal

    UW-Madison used to have engineering degrees that could be graduated from in 4 years if you go back to the 1950s or so. However, the school decided to force engineers to take a year of classes such as ethnic studies and other humanities subjects to provide sufficient indoctrination. Their concern was that engineers would become conservative, so they decided to try to socially engineer the engineers into not being conservative, with limited success.

    https://guide.wisc.edu/undergraduate/#requirementsforundergraduatestudytext

    It's kind of ironic that you chose to have hapa kids (a predictably lonely existence with no real community to belong to), you expect the university in a mostly white state to bend over backwards to make your kids feel at home. Which it actually attempts to do so in part by force-feeding engineers the humanities requirements that are not useful on the job.

    And then you praise up MSOE for its great 4 year engineering degree which it either achieves by not including uncessary liberal breadth indoctrination requirements, or skimping on the engineering class requirements. And you can bet it's the former if the school is any good.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    My kid at UW Madison is not an engineer, and will graduate in 4 years. Already had a job lined up before the end of junior year. Already has a paper in a refereed journal in the pipeline.

    I am not expecting anyone to bend over backwards. My kid at UW is extremely outgoing and has a group of friends, some dating back to elementary school. Spent New Year’s Eve with a group that included her best friend from kindergarten. Nothing lonely about that existence.

    Nothing contradictory. UW is a great school. For engineering, MSOE is a great school.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Paleo Liberal

    For something that is all hunky dory there sure is a lot of doth protesting.


    Two of my kids are introverts. Going to a school where they felt at home and could make hopefully lifelong friendships has been an important part of their education
     

    I am not expecting anyone to bend over backwards. My kid at UW is extremely outgoing and has a group of friends, some dating back to elementary school. Spent New Year’s Eve with a group that included her best friend from kindergarten. Nothing lonely about that existence
     

    The purpose of the video was to show UW as a welcoming place; a home for people of all backgrounds.

    Whether you like that or not is beside the point.

    They had a job to do, and they failed miserably.

    It is almost impossible to put a camera at a busy random spot at UW without seeing a lot of non-white students. I have been in or near the UW campus more times than I can count. The film crew deliberately sought out non-white organizations, so they had footage.

    For the editors to come up with an ode to diversity which only showed white students was either extreme incompetence or deliberate sabotage. I am kind enough to assume incompetence— that these student editors showed the kind of campus experience they have, without realizing they are not the only students on campus.
     
    Ok, so even though they showed non-white students, it still wasn't non-white enough to suit you and so they "failed miserably" with "extreme incompetence" if not "deliberate sabotage". At the same time, you don't expect the university to bend over backwards to make your kids feel included.

    Ok...
  186. @ATBOTL
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    That's true on the left, but at the same, time boomer conservatives are holding back the political right with their myths about "MLK was a conservative" and "I don't see color." Gen X aged conservatives, let alone millennials, are a lot more racially aware. We are heading for direct racial conflict between an openly anti-white left and an openly pro-white right.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “We are heading for direct racial conflict between an openly anti-white left and an openly pro-white right.”

    According to Who/Whom?

  187. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    My kid at UW Madison is not an engineer, and will graduate in 4 years. Already had a job lined up before the end of junior year. Already has a paper in a refereed journal in the pipeline.

    I am not expecting anyone to bend over backwards. My kid at UW is extremely outgoing and has a group of friends, some dating back to elementary school. Spent New Year’s Eve with a group that included her best friend from kindergarten. Nothing lonely about that existence.

    Nothing contradictory. UW is a great school. For engineering, MSOE is a great school.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    For something that is all hunky dory there sure is a lot of doth protesting.

    Two of my kids are introverts. Going to a school where they felt at home and could make hopefully lifelong friendships has been an important part of their education

    I am not expecting anyone to bend over backwards. My kid at UW is extremely outgoing and has a group of friends, some dating back to elementary school. Spent New Year’s Eve with a group that included her best friend from kindergarten. Nothing lonely about that existence

    The purpose of the video was to show UW as a welcoming place; a home for people of all backgrounds.

    Whether you like that or not is beside the point.

    They had a job to do, and they failed miserably.

    It is almost impossible to put a camera at a busy random spot at UW without seeing a lot of non-white students. I have been in or near the UW campus more times than I can count. The film crew deliberately sought out non-white organizations, so they had footage.

    For the editors to come up with an ode to diversity which only showed white students was either extreme incompetence or deliberate sabotage. I am kind enough to assume incompetence— that these student editors showed the kind of campus experience they have, without realizing they are not the only students on campus.

    Ok, so even though they showed non-white students, it still wasn’t non-white enough to suit you and so they “failed miserably” with “extreme incompetence” if not “deliberate sabotage”. At the same time, you don’t expect the university to bend over backwards to make your kids feel included.

    Ok…

    • Agree: Polynikes, JMcG
    • Troll: Paleo Liberal
  188. The authors of the article inform the reader: “To students of color, the homecoming video was a glimpse of what they experienced every day as they walked through campus.”

    If the homecoming video was supposed to show how things “should” be rather than how they are maybe the university should have hired Marvel or Disney to produce the video.

    It would seem the university had good intentions but it just goes to show you: Sooner or later you have to answer for every good deed.

  189. @RichardTaylor
    @Kronos


    Don’t confuse the teacher’s pet (aka Boomer’s Bitch) with the cool kids in the classroom. The kids will follow the cool ones every single time if given the chance. One Mrs. Boomer is removed, the puppet regime of the student body President will crumble.
     
    I think you're on to something there. Most of the "woke" crowd, especially the White ones, are just toadies. They serve a power external to themselves. It does feel like a prison environment in which a few people act tough (the PC crowd) as long as the warden is around to protect them.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Those younger generational toadies are more than willing to assist the new left boomers in pretending to re-create the 1960s revolutionary zeal. That it resembles something akin to a fractal repeating itself. (Though ultimately it can never replicate itself past the boomers.) The more capable toadies are very much the Harry Flashman types that can play the noble role but will run off/betray once given the chance.

    Strangely enough you do kinda see this in the new Star Wars films.

    Also, from Trevor Lynch.
    https://www.unz.com/tlynch/the-force-awakens/

    P.S. If you REALLY want to see 1960s leftist boomer self-aggrandizement, see Stephan King’s recent tv series “Castle Rock.” A adopted black son of liberal boomer parents returns home to Maine. He’s a criminal lawyer who defends death row inmates in evil Texas (but not too successfully.) He drives around a small town food desert (in a Subaru Outback no less) to work a strange case based on a short phone call. That a mysterious man found in the basement of a evil private prison is being kept there based on no charges.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Kronos

    Oh good grief about Stephen King. I noticed in his book Mr. Mercedes a few years ago, the bad guy was a kind of young White male "bigot" and there was a heroic young black guy who just loved computers. A real computer whiz. King have him some of the silliest dialogue I've ever read.

    I was embarrassed for him.

  190. @Possumman
    @Rosie

    But it's still a crappy trailer and can't be parked legally most places

    Replies: @Rosie

    But it’s still a crappy trailer and can’t be parked legally most places

    It’s not a crappy trailer, but it’s true that it can’t be parked legally in most places. Whether that will continue to be the case I’m not sure. If boomers want to make themselves useful in their final years, they might throw their weight behind the tiny house movement. We’ll see.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Why would we do that? It's another stupid extreme idea. The Greatest Generation were happy with house of around 1,000 to 1,500 s.f. which strikes me as a reasonable compromise between cost, convenience, privacy, etc. but then houses swelled up to be 5,000 s.f. McMansions and now we have to live in a 400 s.f. shack on wheels? Why can't we just go back to living in reasonably sized houses instead of swinging from one extreme to the next?

    Replies: @Rosie

  191. @Reg Cæsar
    @Paleo Liberal


    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers
     
    Downstate New Yorkers. Upstaters would fit right in, as Wisconsin is essentially the same, at a lower elevation. Right down to two Great Lakes and millions of cows.

    Something like 85% of Michigan's early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.

    In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.
     
    It's surprising how much lakefront property in "commie" Madison is private, or controlled by institutions like UW. Little parkland, unlike along Chicago's big lake or Minneapolis's many little ones.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing.
     
    And ride mopeds. I've never seen so many anywhere else, even in Europe. This may be due to the city's complicated street grid-- as Madison (the man) was a smaller version of Washington (the man), so is Madison (the city) a shrunken Washington (DC) crammed into a fight isthmus, with conflicting grids at 45° angles.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hibernian

    Something like 85% of Michigan’s early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.

    The Germans started coming in large numbers in ’48.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    The Germans started coming in large numbers in ’48.
     
    The year of statehood. The Yankees were already there. As you go west, the Yankee/Continental ratio decreases, due to later initial settlement. It shoots up in Washington and Oregon, where the coast was settled before the interior.

    By the way, those Germans could vote after six months here, if they had applied for citizenship. Wisconsin was the first state to allow that. I don't know when this was repealed, but Arkansas's repeal in 1926 was the end of the practice anywhere.
  192. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Johnny789

    Well, some of us actually cook. You know, that archaic activity largely superceded by warming up frozen stuff in a microwave oven.

    We use an induction cooktop; no open flame, magnetic induction in specially fabricated vessels, so no compelling necessity for a range hood to draw off the heat, particularly in the summer, rather a rise-up downdraft ventilation fan across the back of the cooktop that pulls out steam and cooking odors at need. And yes, the cooktop can accomodate 4 pans/kettles, & we see that fairly often.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Jack D

    We use an induction cooktop; no open flame

    Yep. Induction cooking is another technology advancement that facilitates tiny living, and you get results that are as good or better than gas.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Rosie

    No technology is perfect.

    If you have a bunch of non-magnetic pots and pans, they are now useless.

    Also, the induction ranges tend to have complicated electronics that can go wrong. Gas doesn’t have that issue.

    Not saying anything is wrong about induction. It’s just that the gas ranges are simpler and more sturdy.

    That being said, I have an induction range, and am generally satisfied with it. Trouble is we had to get our original range completely replaced because it just stopped working.

    Replies: @Jack D

  193. @Rosie
    @JerseyJeffersonian


    We use an induction cooktop; no open flame
     
    Yep. Induction cooking is another technology advancement that facilitates tiny living, and you get results that are as good or better than gas.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    No technology is perfect.

    If you have a bunch of non-magnetic pots and pans, they are now useless.

    Also, the induction ranges tend to have complicated electronics that can go wrong. Gas doesn’t have that issue.

    Not saying anything is wrong about induction. It’s just that the gas ranges are simpler and more sturdy.

    That being said, I have an induction range, and am generally satisfied with it. Trouble is we had to get our original range completely replaced because it just stopped working.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Paleo Liberal

    All modern appliances (even gas ranges) have a bunch of electronics and are not built to be as durable as older appliances. I find that it really pays (and now with the internet is easy) to learn some basic appliance repair skills. Most appliances are pretty simple devices and any given model usually has the same failure mode - if your appliance is doing (or not doing) X then chances are you are not alone and there are people on the internet who can tell you what is broken and how to fix it. There's probably a YouTube video that will take you thru every step. You usually need a lot fewer tools than for auto repair - a screwdriver and a $10 multimeter will get you far. Last week my MIL's dryer stopped heating and she called me up and said "guess I need a new one". If she was going to pay $200 for a service call she probably would have been right, but it took me maybe 10 min. to remove the 1/2 dozen screws holding the back and find the $5 thermal fuse that had blown.

    I don't know what failed in your induction stove but I would be willing to wager that it could have been fixed for a reasonable cost if you had been able to diagnose the failure and shop for the replacement part on the internet. Given that you were prepared to spend $1,000 on a new stove you have little to lose at that point (needless to say you should kill the power going to the stove before you try to work on it and learn basic safety precautions). Even if you can't fix it at least you will have learned something. Not only do you save money this way but you save the environment by not sending an entire stove to the dump when 95% of it is perfectly fine and there is only 1 defective part or module.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  194. @Joe Schmoe
    @kaganovitch

    Why don't Jews just build their own universities? The have no shortage of talent or funding.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @kaganovitch

    There are I think three Jewish founded universities in the USA. Brandeis, Yeshiva and Touro. They all have issues. If Jews were the hive-minded organism the Kmacniki imagine them to be, they would probably be more successful. As it is, Jewish denominationalism prevents each of them and any likely new entrant from appealing across the Jewish spectrum.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @kaganovitch


    f Jews were the hive-minded organism the Kmacniki imagine them to be, they would probably be more successful. As it is, Jewish denominationalism prevents each of them and any likely new entrant from appealing across the Jewish spectrum.
     
    The only questions that matter in terms of Jews being accused of being a hive minded organism are the following:

    When there are two Jews and a gentile in the room, who will the second Jew side with when the first is proven to have done something wrong?

    Extrapolated out to the national scale:

    Would American Jews fight a war against Israel as American Germans fought a War against Germany?

    Of course, this is all rhetorical and has been debated both by history and through decades of public Jewish statements. We well know the answer.

    In my experience, Jews are so completely coddled by America that they have not prior thought about the possibility of it warring with Israel given any transgression. That's how far Jews are away from not being hive minded and being an actual part of the United States (who they name Esau and slate for destruction).

    Replies: @artichoke, @Dissident

  195. @Anon
    @fish


    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!
     
    Quit being lazy. My father who's close to the aforementioned age works nearly seven days a week as a self-employed carpenter. One of my uncles who's in his 80's, a former Marine and cancer survivor, works 12 hour days and seven days a week during the busy season as a self-employed landscaper. Another one of my uncles, who's in his 90's, recently put a new roof on his farm house -- by himself. Furthermore, a former climbing partner of mine who is double my age, summited a couple of the worlds most iconic and dangerous peaks while in his 70's -- and we did one of those together under extremely challenging conditions.

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Well I’m 98 and I eat pennies and batteries for breakfast and shit brass doorknobs.

  196. Whites are under-represented at UW-Madison: Its student body is 70% white whereas WI is 84% white.

  197. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Reg Cæsar


    Something like 85% of Michigan’s early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.
     
    Not sure the percentage was quite that high. There were quite few folks from New England that moved to Michigan as well.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Not sure the percentage was quite that high. There were quite few folks from New England that moved to Michigan as well.

    Those born in New England but spent considerable time in the Empire State before going west– obvious examples being Joseph Smith and Brigham Young– count as coming “from New York”. NE >NY >MI was at least as common as directly NE>MI. In my family we had both, as well as PA>NY>MI , NJ>NY>MI, and NY>IN>MI.

    When the better Holland Purchase land was all scooped up, western New Yorkers got “Michigan fever” from speculators farther west. Many of them were born in other states or Canada. Of course, the 85% figure may include anyone who spent any time at all in New York, and thus be exaggerated.

  198. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    And maybe even then there’s some hope they may mellow out as they get older.
     
    Even the POC Gen-Xers and Millenials?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc8pczn-hs

    The future is tribal. Plan accordingly.

    Replies: @Kronos

    But it’s the Boomers (faculty, admissions, dean, board directors, (serious) fundraisers) calling the shots. The “professional activists” are working within the boomer system. They simply cannot exist without it. It’s amazing how Philip Roth’s book “The Human Stain” captures the precise political games within colleges/universities that’s been running rampant today. The book was published in 1998! True, social media added further gasoline to the dumpster fire which is contemporary social sciences/humanities but essentially all of these departments are configured to 1960s people and ideas.

  199. @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Johnny789

    Well, some of us actually cook. You know, that archaic activity largely superceded by warming up frozen stuff in a microwave oven.

    We use an induction cooktop; no open flame, magnetic induction in specially fabricated vessels, so no compelling necessity for a range hood to draw off the heat, particularly in the summer, rather a rise-up downdraft ventilation fan across the back of the cooktop that pulls out steam and cooking odors at need. And yes, the cooktop can accomodate 4 pans/kettles, & we see that fairly often.

    Replies: @Rosie, @Jack D

    specially fabricated vessels

    This makes induction sound much more exotic than it really is. All you need to do is to use pots that a magnet will stick to. Plain old cast iron works great as does current generation tri-ply cookware. Aluminum is a no go.

    It’s true that induction gives off a lot less heat than gas (much of the heat from a gas flame ends up in the air and not in the pot) but you still want to have a vent hood with induction to carry off smoke, steam and fumes. Downdraft makes no sense – smoke RISES. Have you ever seen a downdraft vent in a restaurant kitchen?

  200. @Paleo Liberal
    @Rosie

    No technology is perfect.

    If you have a bunch of non-magnetic pots and pans, they are now useless.

    Also, the induction ranges tend to have complicated electronics that can go wrong. Gas doesn’t have that issue.

    Not saying anything is wrong about induction. It’s just that the gas ranges are simpler and more sturdy.

    That being said, I have an induction range, and am generally satisfied with it. Trouble is we had to get our original range completely replaced because it just stopped working.

    Replies: @Jack D

    All modern appliances (even gas ranges) have a bunch of electronics and are not built to be as durable as older appliances. I find that it really pays (and now with the internet is easy) to learn some basic appliance repair skills. Most appliances are pretty simple devices and any given model usually has the same failure mode – if your appliance is doing (or not doing) X then chances are you are not alone and there are people on the internet who can tell you what is broken and how to fix it. There’s probably a YouTube video that will take you thru every step. You usually need a lot fewer tools than for auto repair – a screwdriver and a $10 multimeter will get you far. Last week my MIL’s dryer stopped heating and she called me up and said “guess I need a new one”. If she was going to pay $200 for a service call she probably would have been right, but it took me maybe 10 min. to remove the 1/2 dozen screws holding the back and find the $5 thermal fuse that had blown.

    I don’t know what failed in your induction stove but I would be willing to wager that it could have been fixed for a reasonable cost if you had been able to diagnose the failure and shop for the replacement part on the internet. Given that you were prepared to spend $1,000 on a new stove you have little to lose at that point (needless to say you should kill the power going to the stove before you try to work on it and learn basic safety precautions). Even if you can’t fix it at least you will have learned something. Not only do you save money this way but you save the environment by not sending an entire stove to the dump when 95% of it is perfectly fine and there is only 1 defective part or module.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Even if you can’t fix it at least you will have learned something. Not only do you save money this way but you save the environment by not sending an entire stove to the dump when 95% of it is perfectly fine and there is only 1 defective part or module.
     
    The thing is that with modern manufactured items, one insignificant seeming but unobtainable part can condemn the whole assembly. Especially where modifications are prohibited by law, insurance policy, or a general fear of the old pwoduct wiability shibboleth.

    Tektronix oscilloscopes were my introduction to this. The desirable models are very well built and last a long time but Tek is a spoild contractor and wants you to buy a new scope, so when they quit supporting it, you have no replacement parts. A lot of the silicon, the switch assemblies, and of course the CRT are all built inhouse and when they are gone they're gone.

    The old gas stoves were all made out of off the shelf parts but I'm guessing the new ones are not. I know electric stoves, and washers and dryers, are often junked because of the parts situation where for decades parts were readily available. I'm told that the only decent top loading washing machine made anywhere anymore is the Speed Queen commercial washer.

    Sometimes someone will engineer a fix to convert the old machine to parts that are available, but if you have to pay for this work by the hour, buying a new one is cheaper. Still, fortune favors the persistent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHwKM5qDBFg

    Replies: @Jack D

  201. @Rosie
    @Possumman


    But it’s still a crappy trailer and can’t be parked legally most places
     
    It's not a crappy trailer, but it's true that it can't be parked legally in most places. Whether that will continue to be the case I'm not sure. If boomers want to make themselves useful in their final years, they might throw their weight behind the tiny house movement. We'll see.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Why would we do that? It’s another stupid extreme idea. The Greatest Generation were happy with house of around 1,000 to 1,500 s.f. which strikes me as a reasonable compromise between cost, convenience, privacy, etc. but then houses swelled up to be 5,000 s.f. McMansions and now we have to live in a 400 s.f. shack on wheels? Why can’t we just go back to living in reasonably sized houses instead of swinging from one extreme to the next?

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Jack D


    The Greatest Generation were happy with house of around 1,000 to 1,500 s.f. which strikes me as a reasonable compromise between cost, convenience, privacy, etc.
     
    Then don't live in a tiny house. That's a separate question from whether others should be free to do so.

    Replies: @Jack D

  202. @Altai
    OT:
    But here are my two candidates for pictures which sum up the 2010s, defined in their latter half by the Great Awokening (Which is really just the rise of public social media and it's mass embrace particularly by young women).

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ab43b35c258b487055ad91b/1533407058339-86J7LDSI4N4FUIRE4N9A/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPfnpno-qsEd_qjrWa7QDod7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UVlQOtnBLxT8MoNUwNFhCVXhxRzAZuv26UZlysJR7HcEpYUNEwbBj596Zrb0iNlLzA/AnnaleeNewitzCharlieJaneAnders-85.jpg

    You have 20 year old Hispanic BPD FtM (Complete with a goading expression since she assumes everyone hates her and her coping mechanism is to preemptively attack them) and a perfect MtF autogynophile who trooned out in his late 40s.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Judge_Freier_in_City_Hall.jpg

    Next is this one. The swearing ceremony of Judge Rachel Freier, the first Hasidic judge in NYC history. It’s beautiful, almost accidental renaissance. Every little detail in the foreground and background is perfect. (And yes, she is a wearing a replica wig of her own hair over her actual hair to trick god.)

    I can’t tell if the giant Dunkin’Donuts flavoured coffee and giant phablet phones on the desk in full view for the publicity shot or the lonely angry white man on the far right with his arms crossed is the best part.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jack D, @jimmyriddle, @CJ, @Reg Cæsar

    The people in your first picture are, respectively, 50 and 51 years old. Yes I looked it up to be sure.

  203. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    “Sara Goldrick-Rab”... It’s never surprising to see Chosenites behind the agitation against whites. From Ferguson to Madison the NYT hammers away at ‘white is not all right’. Read E. Michael Jones’ The Slaughter of Cities. Our once-beautiful American cities were destroyed by Jews manipulating WASPs and blacks (Jewish proxy warriors) into ethically cleansing traditional white ethic neighborhoods. But it’s never enough for (((them))).

    Meanwhile every January 1st (including yesterday) 90,000 people get together for Siyum HaShas (aka ‘Jewish Super Bowl’) at MetLife Stadium in a diverse tri-state area and yet there is zero diversity. Not one black or brown or yellow face. This group is three times the size as the Wisconsin-Madison student body and right at the feet of the NYT. But for some reason it’s presented as a DIE event:


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/nyregion/jewish-attacks-monsey-Daf-Yomi.html

    90,000 Jews Gather to Pray and Defy a Wave of Hate

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/01/01/nyregion/01talmud01/01talmud01-facebookJumbo.jpg
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Charon, @Yngvar

    That’s a religious festival. By definition not diverse or including.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Yngvar

    By what definition? And what's the definition that makes the U of Wisco's student body more diverse and including?

  204. @Altai
    OT:
    But here are my two candidates for pictures which sum up the 2010s, defined in their latter half by the Great Awokening (Which is really just the rise of public social media and it's mass embrace particularly by young women).

    https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5ab43b35c258b487055ad91b/1533407058339-86J7LDSI4N4FUIRE4N9A/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPfnpno-qsEd_qjrWa7QDod7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UVlQOtnBLxT8MoNUwNFhCVXhxRzAZuv26UZlysJR7HcEpYUNEwbBj596Zrb0iNlLzA/AnnaleeNewitzCharlieJaneAnders-85.jpg

    You have 20 year old Hispanic BPD FtM (Complete with a goading expression since she assumes everyone hates her and her coping mechanism is to preemptively attack them) and a perfect MtF autogynophile who trooned out in his late 40s.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Judge_Freier_in_City_Hall.jpg

    Next is this one. The swearing ceremony of Judge Rachel Freier, the first Hasidic judge in NYC history. It’s beautiful, almost accidental renaissance. Every little detail in the foreground and background is perfect. (And yes, she is a wearing a replica wig of her own hair over her actual hair to trick god.)

    I can’t tell if the giant Dunkin’Donuts flavoured coffee and giant phablet phones on the desk in full view for the publicity shot or the lonely angry white man on the far right with his arms crossed is the best part.

    Replies: @Altai, @Jack D, @jimmyriddle, @CJ, @Reg Cæsar

    They don’t fly a state flag in NYC courtrooms? What insubordination. Are Liberty and Justice unwelcome therein?

    Is that a city flag, or a Manhattan one? They look alike except for the seal. Manhattan’s has a windmill.

    Queens has an English rose, Brooklyn’s a fasces. (Yes, a fasces.) Staten Island has some chick with a likely unlicensed weapon. How long can these last?

    The Bronx’s instructs, “Yield not to evil.” They should take this more seriously.

    The meaning behind every New York City borough flag

    Speaking of the Bronx, RIP, Don Larsen.

  205. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/saragoldrickrab/status/1212540811818221570

    https://twitter.com/saragoldrickrab/status/1212542982521524224

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon, @Anonymous

    Author of A Good American Family: The Red Scare and My Father.

  206. @Kronos
    @RichardTaylor

    Those younger generational toadies are more than willing to assist the new left boomers in pretending to re-create the 1960s revolutionary zeal. That it resembles something akin to a fractal repeating itself. (Though ultimately it can never replicate itself past the boomers.) The more capable toadies are very much the Harry Flashman types that can play the noble role but will run off/betray once given the chance.

    http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/fractals/carlson/cmphx09.gif

    Strangely enough you do kinda see this in the new Star Wars films.

    https://youtu.be/QM2zcv5AfaM

    Also, from Trevor Lynch.
    https://www.unz.com/tlynch/the-force-awakens/


    P.S. If you REALLY want to see 1960s leftist boomer self-aggrandizement, see Stephan King’s recent tv series “Castle Rock.” A adopted black son of liberal boomer parents returns home to Maine. He’s a criminal lawyer who defends death row inmates in evil Texas (but not too successfully.) He drives around a small town food desert (in a Subaru Outback no less) to work a strange case based on a short phone call. That a mysterious man found in the basement of a evil private prison is being kept there based on no charges.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Oh good grief about Stephen King. I noticed in his book Mr. Mercedes a few years ago, the bad guy was a kind of young White male “bigot” and there was a heroic young black guy who just loved computers. A real computer whiz. King have him some of the silliest dialogue I’ve ever read.

    I was embarrassed for him.

  207. @BB753
    @Anonymous

    That's a typical freemasonic symbol, the all-seeing eye. Speaking of which, are Blacks under-represented in masonic lodges? We can't have that, disparate impact in secret societies!

    Replies: @SFG, @duncsbaby

    I’ve met a couple of black Masons. They proudly wear their rings. I think I’ve probably met more white Masons but I just never noticed, they like to keep it on the down-low.

  208. @JimB
    How about asking Julio and Treshawn if they want to spend four years sitting through college prep classes or if they would prefer to learn skills paying them $25 -$70 per hour after they graduate trade school. Last I checked the labor rate for routine car brake repair in a garage was $120/ hr. As the white population dwindles, so should the obsession with college “education.”

    Replies: @JMcG

    When my guy hires Julio or Treyshawn to do brakes, he’s seen his last dollar from me. I’ll go back to doing them myself. That’s one reason not to go near a dealer’s service department.
    I really don’t care how badly a newspaper story is written or inefficiently an app might be coded, but kill my wife because you’re too high or apathetic to do a good job? No thanks.

  209. @Jack D
    @anarchyst

    Even if not required it's an extremely good idea to have one, especially in a "tiny house". Without a hood, your tiny house is going to fill with smoke and set off the smoke alarms if you try to do something like pan grill a steak (note that there is no oven or broiler visible). Everything in your house is going to be coated with fine droplets of grease from frying. There are no upper cabinets so whatever is out on those open shelves is going to get greasy. The whole tiny house is going to smell of whatever you cooked.

    It's especially stupid that in a house with limited storage space that instead of cabinets or at least multiple shelves they waste the entire wall storage space with 3 tiny shelves.

    In a house that size I would have gotten a dual induction burner and called it a day. The flat top can be used as counter space, you don't have hot combustion gasses, etc. It lessens the need for a hood but you need one anyway.

    Some of these concepts photograph well but they're a nightmare to live with in real life.

    Replies: @JMcG

    Before my recent kitchen remodel, we had one of those vent hoods that just recycled “filtered” air. Now I have to strap the pots down to keep them on the burners. Water boils at 207 F due to the reduced atmospheric pressure in my kitchen. Oh how I love my range hood!
    Happy New Year Jack.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @JMcG

    Same thing here. Before I had a microwave over the stove with a pathetic little visor to catch the exhaust and a little hamster powered blower motor. It was supposedly vented to the outside but you couldn't poach an egg without setting off the smoke alarm.

    Now I have a big ass blower mounted outside the building and when I turn it on high it sounds like a 747 is spooling up. The napkins fly off the kitchen table and the suction plasters them against the intake baffles. Small children and pets needed to be belted down. God help anyone wearing a toupee anywhere in the county. It's a pleasure.

  210. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Why would we do that? It's another stupid extreme idea. The Greatest Generation were happy with house of around 1,000 to 1,500 s.f. which strikes me as a reasonable compromise between cost, convenience, privacy, etc. but then houses swelled up to be 5,000 s.f. McMansions and now we have to live in a 400 s.f. shack on wheels? Why can't we just go back to living in reasonably sized houses instead of swinging from one extreme to the next?

    Replies: @Rosie

    The Greatest Generation were happy with house of around 1,000 to 1,500 s.f. which strikes me as a reasonable compromise between cost, convenience, privacy, etc.

    Then don’t live in a tiny house. That’s a separate question from whether others should be free to do so.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Rosie

    I don't and have no intention of ever doing so. Other people can live wherever they want, within the limits of the building and zoning codes, which were (mostly) enacted for a good reason.

    Although I think it is a bit sad that some young Americans have reduced their horizons to the point where their greatest ambition is to live in a shack. You deserve better (and bigger) than that. All the things that we have (such as cooking areas that are separate from sleeping areas) we have for a reason and if you try to re-invent the world without taking those reasons into consideration you are just going to have to learn the same lessons all over again the hard way.

    Replies: @Rosie

  211. @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don't care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see "women of the wall etc. etc.)

    Replies: @Dissident, @Anonymous, @Anon

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see “women of the wall etc. etc.)

    That is all correct except it should perhaps be noted that what is being referred-to as Tikkun Olam is a perversion of the authentic Judaic concept by that name. I have elaborated upon this in a number of past comments, most recently this one.

    Incidentally, is your posting handle a reference to the infamous Lazar Kaganovitch?

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Dissident

    That is all correct except it should perhaps be noted that what is being referred-to as Tikkun Olam is a perversion of the authentic Judaic concept by that name. I have elaborated upon this in a number of past comments, most recently this one.

    Your final sentence in that comment echoes Yerushalmi Chagiga, Chapter 1 halacha 7 (6a in Vilna edition)

    Re Kaganovitch, it was name of great grandfather. I was subsequently told we were related to late murderer.

  212. @Anon
    @fish


    Good luck climbing those stairs when you’re 80!
     
    Quit being lazy. My father who's close to the aforementioned age works nearly seven days a week as a self-employed carpenter. One of my uncles who's in his 80's, a former Marine and cancer survivor, works 12 hour days and seven days a week during the busy season as a self-employed landscaper. Another one of my uncles, who's in his 90's, recently put a new roof on his farm house -- by himself. Furthermore, a former climbing partner of mine who is double my age, summited a couple of the worlds most iconic and dangerous peaks while in his 70's -- and we did one of those together under extremely challenging conditions.

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Your anecdote is very impressive, but I would posit that the gentlemen you mention are all far out on the right tail of the distribution of physical health and capability for their respective ages.

    Some of that, as you mention, is them not being lazy. However, good genetics is also a huge factor.

    A lot of folks are betrayed by their genes by those ages. That betrayal could be a specific condition, like cancer, or the general decline that comes as we all age.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    However, good genetics is also a huge factor.
     
    Yes, I agree that this plays a role as most people in my family, especially those on my fathers side, have excellent genes. Strong physical health and longevity run in that side of the family. Perhaps it's because we're 100% German and came from tough, self-sufficient generations. My family has much more in common with traditional, pre-war Germany than modernist post-war Germany. Ethnic Germans are strong people both mentally and physically. The work ethic in my family -- from first generation to fourth generation, is unparalleled. We've started and ran successful businesses, many of them involving physical labor.

    Where I grew up, several of my friends who were phenomenal athletes were also German. Some of them become accomplished engineers, but regardless of their chosen professional path, they were all brilliant and hard working.

    Now, being German means next to nothing as Germany has succumbed to Cultural Marxism and the newer generations have become extremely soft. They'd never last a minute battling it out in trench warfare, navigating the jungles of 'Nam, or busting their asses to run a successful, labor- intensive business.
  213. @Yngvar
    @Anon

    That's a religious festival. By definition not diverse or including.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    By what definition? And what’s the definition that makes the U of Wisco’s student body more diverse and including?

  214. When Boomers are gone the world will be finished. Because the stupid, ignorant millennials will be in charge.

  215. @nymom
    @Rosie

    BTW, this apartment is adorable...

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    s/apartment/walk-in closet/

  216. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:

    This fall, more than 30,000 undergraduates began the school year at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Fewer than 1,000 of them are African-American. …

    So, blacks make up about 3% of the undergrads at UW-Madison. According to census.gov, blacks are only 6% of the state of Wisconsin. So, is this really a crisis? Maybe black students at UW had nothing of interest to add to the homecoming video.

    I’m too lazy to look it up, but what is the percentage of blacks on the UW football team – 70%? 80%?

  217. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    This is just like the old-fashioned High School Yearbook – loaded mostly with photos of the yearbook staff and their friends.

  218. @Dissident
    @kaganovitch


    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see “women of the wall etc. etc.)
     
    That is all correct except it should perhaps be noted that what is being referred-to as Tikkun Olam is a perversion of the authentic Judaic concept by that name. I have elaborated upon this in a number of past comments, most recently this one.

    Incidentally, is your posting handle a reference to the infamous Lazar Kaganovitch?

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    That is all correct except it should perhaps be noted that what is being referred-to as Tikkun Olam is a perversion of the authentic Judaic concept by that name. I have elaborated upon this in a number of past comments, most recently this one.

    Your final sentence in that comment echoes Yerushalmi Chagiga, Chapter 1 halacha 7 (6a in Vilna edition)

    Re Kaganovitch, it was name of great grandfather. I was subsequently told we were related to late murderer.

  219. @Rosie
    @Jack D


    The Greatest Generation were happy with house of around 1,000 to 1,500 s.f. which strikes me as a reasonable compromise between cost, convenience, privacy, etc.
     
    Then don't live in a tiny house. That's a separate question from whether others should be free to do so.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I don’t and have no intention of ever doing so. Other people can live wherever they want, within the limits of the building and zoning codes, which were (mostly) enacted for a good reason.

    Although I think it is a bit sad that some young Americans have reduced their horizons to the point where their greatest ambition is to live in a shack. You deserve better (and bigger) than that. All the things that we have (such as cooking areas that are separate from sleeping areas) we have for a reason and if you try to re-invent the world without taking those reasons into consideration you are just going to have to learn the same lessons all over again the hard way.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Jack D


    Although I think it is a bit sad that some young Americans have reduced their horizons to the point where their greatest ambition is to live in a shack.
     
    What do you expect? We can't have first-world building standards with third-world wages. We aren't a middle-class society anymore.

    Even a modest mortgage on a 1000 square foot house is unattainable if you don't have a steady job, increasingly a thing of the past.
  220. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don't care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see "women of the wall etc. etc.)

    Replies: @Dissident, @Anonymous, @Anon

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see “women of the wall etc. etc.)

    I am ridiculing the NYT and general establishment’s love and approval of the Jewish ethnicity’s all-white male event (subgroup completely irrelevant) when we all know that any other white goy male event, religious or otherwise would be written about as some dark, foreboding coming of a new Hitler.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Anonymous


    I am ridiculing the NYT and general establishment’s love and approval of the Jewish ethnicity’s all-white male event (subgroup completely irrelevant) when we all know that any other white goy male event, religious or otherwise would be written about as some dark, foreboding coming of a new Hitler.
     
    You may very well be correct in so far as finding evidence of a double-standard in the linked NY Times article on the Siyum HaShas that took place on January 1st in MetLife Stadium. It is indeed difficult to imagine the likes of the Times covering any predominately* White, predominately male, right-wing non-Jewish event as favorably (or even just neutrally) as they did this Orthodox Jewish one. In not acknowledging this until now, I may have been remiss.

    All the above said, everything that I wrote in my previous posts to this thread stands.

    In general, Orthodox Jews present a challenge for the Narrative in many of the same ways that Muslims do. As Jews we are obviously part of a protected group under the prevailing dispensation. But as Orthodox, traditionalist Jews, our very lifestyle is, at a minimum, irredeemably cis-hetero-sexist, homophobic [sic] and transphobic [sic]. Then, of course, there is the the problem that is created for the Narrative when Jews are attacked by persons-of-color or Muslims-- a problem we have seen amply demonstrated in the reactions to and coverage of the recent spate of such incidents in the New York metro area. A case of Narrative Collision.

    I have found attitudes and approaches of the Respectables and the Woke toward Orthodox Jews to cut both ways. Sometimes (such as in this case) it does indeed seem that we are given a pass. Other times not, and even the complete opposite-- especially when it comes to how non-Orthodox Jews relate to us. In my own life as an Orthodox Jew, my personal casual encounters with non-Orthodox Jews have been mixed, including incidents from each end of the spectrum. Based on nothing more than an outward appearance that immediately identifies me as an Orthodox Jew of the more traditionalist variety, I have been greeted by some non-Orthodox Jews with a conspicuous respect and affinity, and by others with a no-less-conspicuous contempt, disdain and even embarrassment.

    I have also witnessed, as well as personally experienced, a number of instances of non-Orthodox Jews taking liberties in relation to Orthodox Jews and their sensibilities that I cannot imagine the former ever daring to take with anyone else save, possibly, right-wing Christians.

    [*After reporting that "The vast majority of those in MetLife Stadium were Orthodox men", the linked NYT article goes-on to tell us that, "There was a special women’s section so wives and daughters could cheer their men on."

    As for the racial makeup of the crowd, while obviously predominately white in appearance, there were surely at least some Jews-of-color in attendance as well. (Such individuals do exist. There are a small number of converts and their descendants from just about all races. There are the Sephardim, many of whom could be considered Arab or Persian. And, certainly, Yemenite Jews (Teimanim), are quite dark. One would likely see more of the latter at a Satmar event, though, for that community has welcomed and absorbed a considerable number of Jews from Yemen.]
  221. @Paleo Liberal
    @Anonymous

    There is a reason for this.

    UW Madison is extremely popular among wealthy New Yorkers, especially of the Jewish persuasion, to send their kids. No wonder The NY Times takes notice. Just as a big event in Martha’s Vinyard is important for Times readers, the U of Wisconsin is important for times readers.

    The NY students are often referred to as “Coasties” by the locals, who call themselves “Sconnies”. The two groups are more segregated now than ever. Within the past few years, several luxury private dorms have been built by real estate developers for use by wealthy out-of-state students. In addition, UW built a fancy, more expensive, dorm right on the lake.

    Sconnies live in cheap dorms, or ratty off campus housing. Sconnies join the paler Christian Greek organizations and go to the pep rallies and go to the games and possibly play in the marching band. Coasties and foreign students and minorities don’t.

    My guess is the video was made by self- styles Kewl Kids, all of whom were white Sconnies. They showed the campus as they see it, which didn’t include anyone except their own social group of white, Christian (mostly Lutheran but some Catholic) Sconnies, which are at most half the student body, and probably less since the Sconnies who aren’t Greeks or ticket holders are excluded as well.

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    I see it less as racism and more as being blind to anyone outside their group.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @anon, @SFG, @Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon, @ATBOTL

    The video makers were given a task of being inclusive; to represent the entire student body. They even spent a lot of time filming non-white groups. But when it came time to edit the film, only their small group of Kewl Kids made the cut.

    In other words, they were given an assignment and failed miserably.

    No, you failed miserably. Stop cucking. Support your own people. Stop being a traitor. Stop throwing young white people under the bus.

  222. @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar


    Something like 85% of Michigan’s early- and mid-19th-century settlers came from New York State, and a similar figure is likely for Wisconsin.
     
    The Germans started coming in large numbers in '48.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The Germans started coming in large numbers in ’48.

    The year of statehood. The Yankees were already there. As you go west, the Yankee/Continental ratio decreases, due to later initial settlement. It shoots up in Washington and Oregon, where the coast was settled before the interior.

    By the way, those Germans could vote after six months here, if they had applied for citizenship. Wisconsin was the first state to allow that. I don’t know when this was repealed, but Arkansas’s repeal in 1926 was the end of the practice anywhere.

  223. @anarchyst
    @Rosie

    Your statement:

    "And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol"

    Your statement is incorrect.

    Range hoods are not required for gas stoves. There are millions of households who have gas stoves that do not have exhaust hoods and they operate without incident. Gas stoves are so clean-burning that carbon monoxide is not a problem.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Leo D

    My statement was absolutely correct.

    People have been killed by gas furnaces with leaky flue pipes due to the carbon monoxide.

    The combustion products of hydrocarbon fuels (methane, propane, ethane, etc…natural gas, which is a combination of all…mostly methane) and air are carbon dioxide, water, and nitrogen (inert gas from the air), but that is ONLY under perfect stoichiometric conditions, which are NEVER realized in normal everyday circumstances…otherwise add carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides and dioxides, among other byproducts.

    And opening a window only works if the window is on the ceiling.

    Gas is clean-burning only in the sense that there is no soot or ash.

    Please do not EVER burn gas (or anything else, for that matter) indoors without adequayte ventilation.

    Have a safe 2020.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @Leo D

    Incorrect again...

    There is a big difference between a furnace that uses a heat exchanger to provide heated air with a flue to expel the products of combustion and a stove which uses a open flame which completely burns and eliminates the products of combustion.

    Problems arise when the products of combustion (carbon monoxide) are introduced into the heated air stream by a furnace heat exchanger leak or flue pipe leak.

    Such a situation is not possible with a gas stove.

    If gas stoves were dangerous the way they are designed, they would be manufactured with and be supplied with exhaust flues from the manufacturer.

    Gas stoves use an "air shutter" to provide the proper amount of atmospheric air into the gas stream to assure complete combustion.

    I stand by my statements.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jack D

    , @Jack D
    @Leo D

    https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-Flame-Natural-MHVFB30NGT/dp/B01DPZ56OG?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

    Ventless gas heaters have sensors that shut down the heater if they detect a low oxygen condition. Most houses leak enough air that you can burn a certain amount of natural gas without killing yourself even without a vent. OTOH, a malfunctioning 100,000 BTU gas furnace that is designed to be vented but whose vent is blocked might give off enough fumes to kill you. If you don't have a carbon monoxide detector in your house, then get one and do not ignore it if it ever goes off.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  224. @Rosie
    @Leo D


    And I feel the need to point out that the gas range has no exhaust hood (?). That would violate building codes everywhere, as there is no way to exhaust the carbon monoxide…and those walls won’t be white for long, lol
     
    That's part of the reason people build tiny houses on wheels: to evade building codes that effectively price half the population out of homeownership. I agree with Achmed about this: the government shouldn't assume that people don't know to open a window when cooking with gas.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Leo D

    While I agree that a good portion of the building codes are ridiculous, I would have to disagree with the assertion that the ‘public’ knows best.

    Most people don’t know how to change the tire on their car. I wouldn’t assume that they have any idea about how to safely cook with gas.

    Building codes are MINIMUM standards by which to build, and keeping people from killing others (don’t care so much if they want to kill themselves) is a legitimate function.

    My wife almost died in college because of a leaky flue pipe in a natural gas furnace…this is a REAL risk.

    Do not confuse what the phrase ‘clean burning’ means. Clean burning refers to there being no soot or ash in the combustion byproducts. There is still carbon monoxide and dioxide, nitrogen oxide and dioxide, and other gaseous byproducts…and they can all kill you in high enough concentrations.

  225. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    I don't and have no intention of ever doing so. Other people can live wherever they want, within the limits of the building and zoning codes, which were (mostly) enacted for a good reason.

    Although I think it is a bit sad that some young Americans have reduced their horizons to the point where their greatest ambition is to live in a shack. You deserve better (and bigger) than that. All the things that we have (such as cooking areas that are separate from sleeping areas) we have for a reason and if you try to re-invent the world without taking those reasons into consideration you are just going to have to learn the same lessons all over again the hard way.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Although I think it is a bit sad that some young Americans have reduced their horizons to the point where their greatest ambition is to live in a shack.

    What do you expect? We can’t have first-world building standards with third-world wages. We aren’t a middle-class society anymore.

    Even a modest mortgage on a 1000 square foot house is unattainable if you don’t have a steady job, increasingly a thing of the past.

  226. Testing to see if the 50 or so missing new comments show up when I post.

  227. @Leo D
    @anarchyst

    My statement was absolutely correct.

    People have been killed by gas furnaces with leaky flue pipes due to the carbon monoxide.

    The combustion products of hydrocarbon fuels (methane, propane, ethane, etc...natural gas, which is a combination of all...mostly methane) and air are carbon dioxide, water, and nitrogen (inert gas from the air), but that is ONLY under perfect stoichiometric conditions, which are NEVER realized in normal everyday circumstances...otherwise add carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides and dioxides, among other byproducts.

    And opening a window only works if the window is on the ceiling.

    Gas is clean-burning only in the sense that there is no soot or ash.

    Please do not EVER burn gas (or anything else, for that matter) indoors without adequayte ventilation.

    Have a safe 2020.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Jack D

    Incorrect again…

    There is a big difference between a furnace that uses a heat exchanger to provide heated air with a flue to expel the products of combustion and a stove which uses a open flame which completely burns and eliminates the products of combustion.

    Problems arise when the products of combustion (carbon monoxide) are introduced into the heated air stream by a furnace heat exchanger leak or flue pipe leak.

    Such a situation is not possible with a gas stove.

    If gas stoves were dangerous the way they are designed, they would be manufactured with and be supplied with exhaust flues from the manufacturer.

    Gas stoves use an “air shutter” to provide the proper amount of atmospheric air into the gas stream to assure complete combustion.

    I stand by my statements.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @anarchyst

    You are correct.

    , @Jack D
    @anarchyst


    Gas stoves use an “air shutter” to provide the proper amount of atmospheric air into the gas stream to assure complete combustion.
     
    So does a gas furnace. Every gas appliance uses some kind of fixed or variable shutter to mix the correct ratio of air with the gas and produce the optimal blue flame. The burner in your furnace (maybe 100,000 BTU) is just a lot bigger than a stove burner (7,000 BTU) . The composition of the combustion gasses is about the same if both appliances are properly adjusted but the furnace just gives off a lot more of them because it's burning a lot more gas.
  228. @anarchyst
    @Leo D

    Incorrect again...

    There is a big difference between a furnace that uses a heat exchanger to provide heated air with a flue to expel the products of combustion and a stove which uses a open flame which completely burns and eliminates the products of combustion.

    Problems arise when the products of combustion (carbon monoxide) are introduced into the heated air stream by a furnace heat exchanger leak or flue pipe leak.

    Such a situation is not possible with a gas stove.

    If gas stoves were dangerous the way they are designed, they would be manufactured with and be supplied with exhaust flues from the manufacturer.

    Gas stoves use an "air shutter" to provide the proper amount of atmospheric air into the gas stream to assure complete combustion.

    I stand by my statements.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jack D

    You are correct.

  229. @JMcG
    @Jack D

    Before my recent kitchen remodel, we had one of those vent hoods that just recycled “filtered” air. Now I have to strap the pots down to keep them on the burners. Water boils at 207 F due to the reduced atmospheric pressure in my kitchen. Oh how I love my range hood!
    Happy New Year Jack.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Same thing here. Before I had a microwave over the stove with a pathetic little visor to catch the exhaust and a little hamster powered blower motor. It was supposedly vented to the outside but you couldn’t poach an egg without setting off the smoke alarm.

    Now I have a big ass blower mounted outside the building and when I turn it on high it sounds like a 747 is spooling up. The napkins fly off the kitchen table and the suction plasters them against the intake baffles. Small children and pets needed to be belted down. God help anyone wearing a toupee anywhere in the county. It’s a pleasure.

  230. @Leo D
    @anarchyst

    My statement was absolutely correct.

    People have been killed by gas furnaces with leaky flue pipes due to the carbon monoxide.

    The combustion products of hydrocarbon fuels (methane, propane, ethane, etc...natural gas, which is a combination of all...mostly methane) and air are carbon dioxide, water, and nitrogen (inert gas from the air), but that is ONLY under perfect stoichiometric conditions, which are NEVER realized in normal everyday circumstances...otherwise add carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides and dioxides, among other byproducts.

    And opening a window only works if the window is on the ceiling.

    Gas is clean-burning only in the sense that there is no soot or ash.

    Please do not EVER burn gas (or anything else, for that matter) indoors without adequayte ventilation.

    Have a safe 2020.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Jack D

    Ventless gas heaters have sensors that shut down the heater if they detect a low oxygen condition. Most houses leak enough air that you can burn a certain amount of natural gas without killing yourself even without a vent. OTOH, a malfunctioning 100,000 BTU gas furnace that is designed to be vented but whose vent is blocked might give off enough fumes to kill you. If you don’t have a carbon monoxide detector in your house, then get one and do not ignore it if it ever goes off.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D


    If you don’t have a carbon monoxide detector in your house, then get one and do not ignore it if it ever goes off.
     
    Just ask Vitas Gerulaitis.
  231. @anarchyst
    @Leo D

    Incorrect again...

    There is a big difference between a furnace that uses a heat exchanger to provide heated air with a flue to expel the products of combustion and a stove which uses a open flame which completely burns and eliminates the products of combustion.

    Problems arise when the products of combustion (carbon monoxide) are introduced into the heated air stream by a furnace heat exchanger leak or flue pipe leak.

    Such a situation is not possible with a gas stove.

    If gas stoves were dangerous the way they are designed, they would be manufactured with and be supplied with exhaust flues from the manufacturer.

    Gas stoves use an "air shutter" to provide the proper amount of atmospheric air into the gas stream to assure complete combustion.

    I stand by my statements.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jack D

    Gas stoves use an “air shutter” to provide the proper amount of atmospheric air into the gas stream to assure complete combustion.

    So does a gas furnace. Every gas appliance uses some kind of fixed or variable shutter to mix the correct ratio of air with the gas and produce the optimal blue flame. The burner in your furnace (maybe 100,000 BTU) is just a lot bigger than a stove burner (7,000 BTU) . The composition of the combustion gasses is about the same if both appliances are properly adjusted but the furnace just gives off a lot more of them because it’s burning a lot more gas.

  232. You are correct.

    Furnaces DO have air shutters just as stoves do for the same reasons, an optimum air-fuel ratio for optimum combustion.

    However, a gas stove is utilized to provide direct heat to a cooking vessel, unlike a gas furnace. A stove gas flame is very efficient and has almost no carbon monoxide.

    There is no heat exchanger in a gas stove. There is no need to exhaust gas stove flames by use of a range hood, at least in residential systems.

  233. @Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    Whatever Dave, #NeverForget (לעולם לא נשכח) the all-Negro 761st tank battalion liberated the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald. It was depicted on the PBS documentary "Liberators". It was Germanic whites, like the ones featured in the UW video, who were the ones putting Jews into cattle cars and gas chambers and it was the blacks, like those ethnically cleansed from that UW video, who freed the Jews. It’s history! People like Ron Unz need to stop reading all those books and see for themselves by watching PBS, The History Channel, The Heroes Channel, Fox News Memorial Day specials, et al. 👊🏻

    Replies: @SFG, @Alice in Wonderland

    the all-Negro 761st tank battalion liberated the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald.

    Who do you think sent them and paid for the whole damned thing? A bunch of white Americans, that’s who.

  234. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Paleo Liberal

    All modern appliances (even gas ranges) have a bunch of electronics and are not built to be as durable as older appliances. I find that it really pays (and now with the internet is easy) to learn some basic appliance repair skills. Most appliances are pretty simple devices and any given model usually has the same failure mode - if your appliance is doing (or not doing) X then chances are you are not alone and there are people on the internet who can tell you what is broken and how to fix it. There's probably a YouTube video that will take you thru every step. You usually need a lot fewer tools than for auto repair - a screwdriver and a $10 multimeter will get you far. Last week my MIL's dryer stopped heating and she called me up and said "guess I need a new one". If she was going to pay $200 for a service call she probably would have been right, but it took me maybe 10 min. to remove the 1/2 dozen screws holding the back and find the $5 thermal fuse that had blown.

    I don't know what failed in your induction stove but I would be willing to wager that it could have been fixed for a reasonable cost if you had been able to diagnose the failure and shop for the replacement part on the internet. Given that you were prepared to spend $1,000 on a new stove you have little to lose at that point (needless to say you should kill the power going to the stove before you try to work on it and learn basic safety precautions). Even if you can't fix it at least you will have learned something. Not only do you save money this way but you save the environment by not sending an entire stove to the dump when 95% of it is perfectly fine and there is only 1 defective part or module.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Even if you can’t fix it at least you will have learned something. Not only do you save money this way but you save the environment by not sending an entire stove to the dump when 95% of it is perfectly fine and there is only 1 defective part or module.

    The thing is that with modern manufactured items, one insignificant seeming but unobtainable part can condemn the whole assembly. Especially where modifications are prohibited by law, insurance policy, or a general fear of the old pwoduct wiability shibboleth.

    Tektronix oscilloscopes were my introduction to this. The desirable models are very well built and last a long time but Tek is a spoild contractor and wants you to buy a new scope, so when they quit supporting it, you have no replacement parts. A lot of the silicon, the switch assemblies, and of course the CRT are all built inhouse and when they are gone they’re gone.

    The old gas stoves were all made out of off the shelf parts but I’m guessing the new ones are not. I know electric stoves, and washers and dryers, are often junked because of the parts situation where for decades parts were readily available. I’m told that the only decent top loading washing machine made anywhere anymore is the Speed Queen commercial washer.

    Sometimes someone will engineer a fix to convert the old machine to parts that are available, but if you have to pay for this work by the hour, buying a new one is cheaper. Still, fortune favors the persistent.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    The good news is that American appliance manufacturers are extremely "conservative" - in other words, they never invest anything in new technology. They will paint the appliance a different color or update the styling of the knobs and control panel (fake wood grain out, stainless steel, in) but underneath its the same damn thing that it has always been. If your GE Dishwasher needs a new pump, they have been using the same pump (or actually progressively cheaper and more shoddy versions of the same pump but that are backward compatible with the old ones ) for at least 30 years and 30 years from now you'll still be able to get one for your now 60 year old dishwasher.

    Replies: @artichoke

  235. Anon[205] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anon

    Your anecdote is very impressive, but I would posit that the gentlemen you mention are all far out on the right tail of the distribution of physical health and capability for their respective ages.

    Some of that, as you mention, is them not being lazy. However, good genetics is also a huge factor.

    A lot of folks are betrayed by their genes by those ages. That betrayal could be a specific condition, like cancer, or the general decline that comes as we all age.

    Replies: @Anon

    However, good genetics is also a huge factor.

    Yes, I agree that this plays a role as most people in my family, especially those on my fathers side, have excellent genes. Strong physical health and longevity run in that side of the family. Perhaps it’s because we’re 100% German and came from tough, self-sufficient generations. My family has much more in common with traditional, pre-war Germany than modernist post-war Germany. Ethnic Germans are strong people both mentally and physically. The work ethic in my family — from first generation to fourth generation, is unparalleled. We’ve started and ran successful businesses, many of them involving physical labor.

    Where I grew up, several of my friends who were phenomenal athletes were also German. Some of them become accomplished engineers, but regardless of their chosen professional path, they were all brilliant and hard working.

    Now, being German means next to nothing as Germany has succumbed to Cultural Marxism and the newer generations have become extremely soft. They’d never last a minute battling it out in trench warfare, navigating the jungles of ‘Nam, or busting their asses to run a successful, labor- intensive business.

  236. One of the quotes in the article spoke of “energizing student activism”. The University of Wisconsin has a fine reputation as an academic institution. I hope that the students engaged in activism are also engaged in learning. Majoring in some kind of ethnic, racial, or ethnic studies will earn you a job at Starbucks with a mountain of debt.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @woody weaver


    Majoring in some kind of ethnic, racial, or ethnic studies
     
    Should earn you and all the instructors a death sentence.
  237. @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Even if you can’t fix it at least you will have learned something. Not only do you save money this way but you save the environment by not sending an entire stove to the dump when 95% of it is perfectly fine and there is only 1 defective part or module.
     
    The thing is that with modern manufactured items, one insignificant seeming but unobtainable part can condemn the whole assembly. Especially where modifications are prohibited by law, insurance policy, or a general fear of the old pwoduct wiability shibboleth.

    Tektronix oscilloscopes were my introduction to this. The desirable models are very well built and last a long time but Tek is a spoild contractor and wants you to buy a new scope, so when they quit supporting it, you have no replacement parts. A lot of the silicon, the switch assemblies, and of course the CRT are all built inhouse and when they are gone they're gone.

    The old gas stoves were all made out of off the shelf parts but I'm guessing the new ones are not. I know electric stoves, and washers and dryers, are often junked because of the parts situation where for decades parts were readily available. I'm told that the only decent top loading washing machine made anywhere anymore is the Speed Queen commercial washer.

    Sometimes someone will engineer a fix to convert the old machine to parts that are available, but if you have to pay for this work by the hour, buying a new one is cheaper. Still, fortune favors the persistent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHwKM5qDBFg

    Replies: @Jack D

    The good news is that American appliance manufacturers are extremely “conservative” – in other words, they never invest anything in new technology. They will paint the appliance a different color or update the styling of the knobs and control panel (fake wood grain out, stainless steel, in) but underneath its the same damn thing that it has always been. If your GE Dishwasher needs a new pump, they have been using the same pump (or actually progressively cheaper and more shoddy versions of the same pump but that are backward compatible with the old ones ) for at least 30 years and 30 years from now you’ll still be able to get one for your now 60 year old dishwasher.

    • Replies: @artichoke
    @Jack D

    Unfortunately that's not quite true. Just try finding a good old fashioned top load clothes washer with an agitator.

    Speed Queen will sell you one for $1200. The $600 brands all seem to think that if you take the agitator out, magic will do just as well for moving the clothes around in the tub. Last year I saw a GE at Costco that had an agitator, the cheapest simplest one they sold. This year the equivalent model is again one that depends on magic rather than agitator.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jack D

  238. @Jack D
    @Leo D

    https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-Flame-Natural-MHVFB30NGT/dp/B01DPZ56OG?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_1

    Ventless gas heaters have sensors that shut down the heater if they detect a low oxygen condition. Most houses leak enough air that you can burn a certain amount of natural gas without killing yourself even without a vent. OTOH, a malfunctioning 100,000 BTU gas furnace that is designed to be vented but whose vent is blocked might give off enough fumes to kill you. If you don't have a carbon monoxide detector in your house, then get one and do not ignore it if it ever goes off.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    If you don’t have a carbon monoxide detector in your house, then get one and do not ignore it if it ever goes off.

    Just ask Vitas Gerulaitis.

  239. In a Homecoming Video Meant to Unite Campus, Almost Everyone Was White

    By (((Julie Bosman, Emily Shetler and Natalie Yahr)))

    Every. Single. Time. Or so it seems.

    I like “White.” It’s my favorite color.

  240. @woody weaver
    One of the quotes in the article spoke of "energizing student activism". The University of Wisconsin has a fine reputation as an academic institution. I hope that the students engaged in activism are also engaged in learning. Majoring in some kind of ethnic, racial, or ethnic studies will earn you a job at Starbucks with a mountain of debt.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Majoring in some kind of ethnic, racial, or ethnic studies

    Should earn you and all the instructors a death sentence.

  241. @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    Jewish all-male event is Tikkun Olam

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don't care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see "women of the wall etc. etc.)

    Replies: @Dissident, @Anonymous, @Anon

    R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam

    Lie. Tikkum Olam isn’t even analogy for the work to make the Messianic Period come. Its literally one and the same. The entire point of all Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, is their Messianic Period of World domination.

    • Replies: @Dissident
    @Anon


    The entire point of all Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, is their Messianic Period of World domination.
     
    1.) The primary purpose of fulfilling the commandments and leading a devout and righteous life in Judaism is not to bring the Messiah, per se, but simply to fulfill the will of G-d and bring ourselves closer to Him. Those, in the ideal that we strive toward, should be our sole motivations in fulfilling our religious obligations.

    2.) We yearn and pray for the Messiah but we are enjoined from resorting to any physical, earthly means of attempting to hasten his arrival. Thus, anyone not believing in Judaism in the first place should have no reason to fear anything it may or may not say about the Messianic era.

    3.)The Messiah will bring about a state in which all inhabits of the world will recognize and acknowledge the One, True G-d as defined and understood in Judaism. Recognizing Israel*-- the Jews, as His chosen people, all peoples and inhabitants of the world will want to serve us.
    (*Not to be confused with the Zionist heretics and atheists who usurped the name 'Israel' for the blasphemous state that they established in direct defiance of near-unanimous rabbinic consensus.)

    Are there various prophecies in the Hebrew Bible* and statements in the Talmud and other canonical texts of Judaism that foretell of terrible violence and retribution that will be suffered by various non-believers, sinners, blasphemers and enemies of the Jewish people? Sure there are. (And they apply to Jews as well as non-Jews, by the way. In fact, in at least many respects, a Jewish apostate or a Jew who persecutes his own people is considered worse than any non-Jew.) Is any of this any more outlandish, offensive or alarming than any number of comparable statements, beliefs and concepts that are found within Christianity and any number of other religions?

    (*Concerning the Hebrew Bible, called the Old Testament by Christians, I note that last I checked, they, too, considered it to be the word of G-d.)

    4.) In response to your phrase, "all Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism", it should be noted that there is Judaism and there is that which is not Judaism (however much it may be claimed to be or even may resemble Judaism).

    A general rule to apply when encountering anything that is called or claims to be 'Judaism' is as follows. If labeled as or claimed to be Orthodox, it is likely but not necessarily authentic Judaism. If neither labeled nor claimed to be Orthodox, it is almost certainly not authentic Judaism. So-called non-Orthodox Judaism is not Judaism at all.

    5.) Concerning Tikkun Olam, See my earlier comment on this in this thread and the more detailed comment of mine on the topic linked therein.

    Promoted by liberal, non-Orthodox, and secular Jews, the "Tikkun Olam" being referred-to here is a complete perversion of the authentic Judaic concept by that name.

  242. Anon[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch
    @Joe Schmoe

    There are I think three Jewish founded universities in the USA. Brandeis, Yeshiva and Touro. They all have issues. If Jews were the hive-minded organism the Kmacniki imagine them to be, they would probably be more successful. As it is, Jewish denominationalism prevents each of them and any likely new entrant from appealing across the Jewish spectrum.

    Replies: @Anon

    f Jews were the hive-minded organism the Kmacniki imagine them to be, they would probably be more successful. As it is, Jewish denominationalism prevents each of them and any likely new entrant from appealing across the Jewish spectrum.

    The only questions that matter in terms of Jews being accused of being a hive minded organism are the following:

    When there are two Jews and a gentile in the room, who will the second Jew side with when the first is proven to have done something wrong?

    Extrapolated out to the national scale:

    Would American Jews fight a war against Israel as American Germans fought a War against Germany?

    Of course, this is all rhetorical and has been debated both by history and through decades of public Jewish statements. We well know the answer.

    In my experience, Jews are so completely coddled by America that they have not prior thought about the possibility of it warring with Israel given any transgression. That’s how far Jews are away from not being hive minded and being an actual part of the United States (who they name Esau and slate for destruction).

    • Replies: @artichoke
    @Anon

    Yeah we really doomed the USA with our very heavy representation on the Manhattan Project. Jews are working hard to destroy the United States /sarc

    Or maybe you think "American Greatness" involves lots of Islam.

    Replies: @JMcG

    , @Dissident
    @Anon


    When there are two Jews and a gentile in the room, who will the second Jew side with when the first is proven to have done something wrong?
     
    The answer, in any given case, would depend on any number of variables in that case.

    Do Jews have a tendency toward partiality toward their own? How many members of any group-- whether racial, ethnic, national, religious, political, ideological, or sexual-- don't have such a tendency? Partiality toward one's own is hardly unique to Jews.


    Would American Jews fight a war against Israel as American Germans fought a War against Germany?
     
    At least a certain number would.

    https://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-5-connection-with-and-attitudes-towards-israel/
    (All emphasis in quoted text below is mine- Dissident)


    When asked whether caring about Israel is essential, important but not essential, or not an important part of what being Jewish means to them, 43% of American Jews say it is essential, 44% say it is important but not essential, and 12% say it is not important.
     

    More than half of U.S. Jews say U.S. support for Israel is about right (54%), although a substantial minority says the U.S. is not supportive enough of the Jewish state (31%), and 11% think the U.S. is too supportive. By comparison, 41% of the general public thinks support for Israel is about right, while the rest are nearly evenly divided between those who say the U.S. is not supportive enough (25%) and those who say it is too supportive of the Jewish state (22%). Interestingly, more white evangelical Protestants than Jews think the U.S. currently is not sufficiently supportive of Israel (46% vs. 31%).
     
    Note that the questions concerning attachment to Israel in the linked survey do not differentiate between the State of Israel and the The Land of Israel. A considerable number of Orthodox Jews, myself included, are theologically anti-Zionist.

    In my experience, Jews are so completely coddled by America that they have not prior thought about the possibility of it warring with Israel given any transgression.
     
    How many people-- Jews or non-Jews-- have considered such a possibility? Doesn't it seem extremely remote, barring what would be a drastic reversal in what has overwhelmingly been U.S. policy toward the Zionist state since its inception?
  243. They complain they feel they aren’t wanted. But any white student going through the college admissions process these days knows what “not wanted” is.

  244. @Anon
    @kaganovitch


    f Jews were the hive-minded organism the Kmacniki imagine them to be, they would probably be more successful. As it is, Jewish denominationalism prevents each of them and any likely new entrant from appealing across the Jewish spectrum.
     
    The only questions that matter in terms of Jews being accused of being a hive minded organism are the following:

    When there are two Jews and a gentile in the room, who will the second Jew side with when the first is proven to have done something wrong?

    Extrapolated out to the national scale:

    Would American Jews fight a war against Israel as American Germans fought a War against Germany?

    Of course, this is all rhetorical and has been debated both by history and through decades of public Jewish statements. We well know the answer.

    In my experience, Jews are so completely coddled by America that they have not prior thought about the possibility of it warring with Israel given any transgression. That's how far Jews are away from not being hive minded and being an actual part of the United States (who they name Esau and slate for destruction).

    Replies: @artichoke, @Dissident

    Yeah we really doomed the USA with our very heavy representation on the Manhattan Project. Jews are working hard to destroy the United States /sarc

    Or maybe you think “American Greatness” involves lots of Islam.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @artichoke

    You forgot the part about the very heavy representation among those who sought to betray the US nuclear weapons programs to the Soviets. Oh, and our nuclear submarine programs to the Israelis, who then sent them on to the Soviets.
    Oh, and stealing fissionable material from the U in order to build Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

    Replies: @Jack D

  245. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    The good news is that American appliance manufacturers are extremely "conservative" - in other words, they never invest anything in new technology. They will paint the appliance a different color or update the styling of the knobs and control panel (fake wood grain out, stainless steel, in) but underneath its the same damn thing that it has always been. If your GE Dishwasher needs a new pump, they have been using the same pump (or actually progressively cheaper and more shoddy versions of the same pump but that are backward compatible with the old ones ) for at least 30 years and 30 years from now you'll still be able to get one for your now 60 year old dishwasher.

    Replies: @artichoke

    Unfortunately that’s not quite true. Just try finding a good old fashioned top load clothes washer with an agitator.

    Speed Queen will sell you one for $1200. The $600 brands all seem to think that if you take the agitator out, magic will do just as well for moving the clothes around in the tub. Last year I saw a GE at Costco that had an agitator, the cheapest simplest one they sold. This year the equivalent model is again one that depends on magic rather than agitator.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @artichoke

    Maytag has a good one, made in the US with an agitator. I think it cost us around 800 last year. It does a much, much better job than the front loader that it replaced.

    , @Jack D
    @artichoke

    There are government efficiency regulations that make it difficult to still build old fashioned agitator machines (Speed Queen claims they found a loophole in the law - probably they haven't but at this point they are too small for the government to care about hunting down the last remaining agitator fans).

    The government is right - an old style top loader is hard on your clothes and wastes water and soap. The only good reason to have one is if you are say a farmer or construction worker and bring home mud soaked clothing all the time. For regular wash like most of us have, the new front loaders are much better.

  246. @artichoke
    @Anon

    Yeah we really doomed the USA with our very heavy representation on the Manhattan Project. Jews are working hard to destroy the United States /sarc

    Or maybe you think "American Greatness" involves lots of Islam.

    Replies: @JMcG

    You forgot the part about the very heavy representation among those who sought to betray the US nuclear weapons programs to the Soviets. Oh, and our nuclear submarine programs to the Israelis, who then sent them on to the Soviets.
    Oh, and stealing fissionable material from the U in order to build Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @JMcG

    The Jews wouldn't have been able to give our nuclear secrets to the Soviets if we didn't have any in the 1st place. No German could betray the secrets of the German atom bomb to Russia because they couldn't figure out how to make one in their Jew-free state.

    Replies: @JMcG

  247. @artichoke
    @Jack D

    Unfortunately that's not quite true. Just try finding a good old fashioned top load clothes washer with an agitator.

    Speed Queen will sell you one for $1200. The $600 brands all seem to think that if you take the agitator out, magic will do just as well for moving the clothes around in the tub. Last year I saw a GE at Costco that had an agitator, the cheapest simplest one they sold. This year the equivalent model is again one that depends on magic rather than agitator.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jack D

    Maytag has a good one, made in the US with an agitator. I think it cost us around 800 last year. It does a much, much better job than the front loader that it replaced.

  248. @Jack D
    @Rosie

    Here's an idea - everyone could have a large insulated box - sort of like an oversized cooler. Every couple of days a man would come by and deliver to you a large block of ice.

    It's a good thing that there appear to be no large appliances (fridge, stove, washing machine, etc.) in that space because you're not going to get them thru what looks like an 18" door opening. For that matter, how did they get those base cabinets in there unless they were flat pack Ikea stuff?

    The space looks terrifically uncluttered but don't the owners want a coffee machine and a toaster oven at a minimum (since there doesn't appear to be a real oven)? And a dish drainer since there's no dishwasher? Maybe a paper towel holder? Some kind of task lighting so you can see what is cooking at night? There goes your uncluttered look.

    I'm really not that wild about slippery varnished staircases that are open on one side or a mattress on the floor or hard stools without backs. A lot of these concepts are great when you are 25 years old but what happens when you get older?

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Alden

    That staircase without a rail is against every building code. Simple to put one in. But it would add another element. Except for the kitchen, it looks like slave quarters. Work and sleep. That’s your life.

    Take care of grease and steam by using covers on pans all the time. You’d still get the mess but much less of it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Alden


    Take care of grease and steam by using covers on pans all the time. You’d still get the mess but much less of it.
     
    Forget about browning your food if you keep a lid on - you'll get steamed steak. They do make "splatter screens" which are made of mesh and let the steam out but capture the oil drops.

    https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/stabil-splatter-screen-stainless-steel-10112530/
  249. @artichoke
    @Jack D

    Unfortunately that's not quite true. Just try finding a good old fashioned top load clothes washer with an agitator.

    Speed Queen will sell you one for $1200. The $600 brands all seem to think that if you take the agitator out, magic will do just as well for moving the clothes around in the tub. Last year I saw a GE at Costco that had an agitator, the cheapest simplest one they sold. This year the equivalent model is again one that depends on magic rather than agitator.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Jack D

    There are government efficiency regulations that make it difficult to still build old fashioned agitator machines (Speed Queen claims they found a loophole in the law – probably they haven’t but at this point they are too small for the government to care about hunting down the last remaining agitator fans).

    The government is right – an old style top loader is hard on your clothes and wastes water and soap. The only good reason to have one is if you are say a farmer or construction worker and bring home mud soaked clothing all the time. For regular wash like most of us have, the new front loaders are much better.

  250. @Alden
    @Jack D

    That staircase without a rail is against every building code. Simple to put one in. But it would add another element. Except for the kitchen, it looks like slave quarters. Work and sleep. That’s your life.

    Take care of grease and steam by using covers on pans all the time. You’d still get the mess but much less of it.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Take care of grease and steam by using covers on pans all the time. You’d still get the mess but much less of it.

    Forget about browning your food if you keep a lid on – you’ll get steamed steak. They do make “splatter screens” which are made of mesh and let the steam out but capture the oil drops.

    https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/stabil-splatter-screen-stainless-steel-10112530/

  251. @JMcG
    @artichoke

    You forgot the part about the very heavy representation among those who sought to betray the US nuclear weapons programs to the Soviets. Oh, and our nuclear submarine programs to the Israelis, who then sent them on to the Soviets.
    Oh, and stealing fissionable material from the U in order to build Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The Jews wouldn’t have been able to give our nuclear secrets to the Soviets if we didn’t have any in the 1st place. No German could betray the secrets of the German atom bomb to Russia because they couldn’t figure out how to make one in their Jew-free state.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Jack D

    And the Israelis were able to build a nuclear arsenal because they stole the fissionable material from the US Government. Zalman Shapiro backdoored it out of his company in western PA in the 60’s.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  252. @Jack D
    @JMcG

    The Jews wouldn't have been able to give our nuclear secrets to the Soviets if we didn't have any in the 1st place. No German could betray the secrets of the German atom bomb to Russia because they couldn't figure out how to make one in their Jew-free state.

    Replies: @JMcG

    And the Israelis were able to build a nuclear arsenal because they stole the fissionable material from the US Government. Zalman Shapiro backdoored it out of his company in western PA in the 60’s.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @JMcG

    Point of fact:  you mean "fissile" material.  Fissile material will sustain a chain reaction under the right conditions.  Fissionable material can fission, and that's it; U-238 is fissionable and creates the majority of the explosive energy in a 3-stage thermonuclear bomb (because 14.7 MeV fusion neutrons do a GREAT job of fissioning U-238 and releasing ~200 MeV more energy), but you can't create a chain reaction with it.

    Replies: @JMcG

  253. @JMcG
    @Jack D

    And the Israelis were able to build a nuclear arsenal because they stole the fissionable material from the US Government. Zalman Shapiro backdoored it out of his company in western PA in the 60’s.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Point of fact:  you mean “fissile” material.  Fissile material will sustain a chain reaction under the right conditions.  Fissionable material can fission, and that’s it; U-238 is fissionable and creates the majority of the explosive energy in a 3-stage thermonuclear bomb (because 14.7 MeV fusion neutrons do a GREAT job of fissioning U-238 and releasing ~200 MeV more energy), but you can’t create a chain reaction with it.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Mr. Rational

    You are correct, it was apparently U-235 that was stolen. Thank you.

  254. @Mr. Rational
    @JMcG

    Point of fact:  you mean "fissile" material.  Fissile material will sustain a chain reaction under the right conditions.  Fissionable material can fission, and that's it; U-238 is fissionable and creates the majority of the explosive energy in a 3-stage thermonuclear bomb (because 14.7 MeV fusion neutrons do a GREAT job of fissioning U-238 and releasing ~200 MeV more energy), but you can't create a chain reaction with it.

    Replies: @JMcG

    You are correct, it was apparently U-235 that was stolen. Thank you.

  255. >too many white kids
    >too many white kids winning golden globes
    kinda sorta related
    Remember how every single award must go to Beyonce? Apparently it’s not hyperbole:
    https://postimg.cc/t13sBH8Z

  256. @Anon
    @kaganovitch


    f Jews were the hive-minded organism the Kmacniki imagine them to be, they would probably be more successful. As it is, Jewish denominationalism prevents each of them and any likely new entrant from appealing across the Jewish spectrum.
     
    The only questions that matter in terms of Jews being accused of being a hive minded organism are the following:

    When there are two Jews and a gentile in the room, who will the second Jew side with when the first is proven to have done something wrong?

    Extrapolated out to the national scale:

    Would American Jews fight a war against Israel as American Germans fought a War against Germany?

    Of course, this is all rhetorical and has been debated both by history and through decades of public Jewish statements. We well know the answer.

    In my experience, Jews are so completely coddled by America that they have not prior thought about the possibility of it warring with Israel given any transgression. That's how far Jews are away from not being hive minded and being an actual part of the United States (who they name Esau and slate for destruction).

    Replies: @artichoke, @Dissident

    When there are two Jews and a gentile in the room, who will the second Jew side with when the first is proven to have done something wrong?

    The answer, in any given case, would depend on any number of variables in that case.

    Do Jews have a tendency toward partiality toward their own? How many members of any group– whether racial, ethnic, national, religious, political, ideological, or sexual– don’t have such a tendency? Partiality toward one’s own is hardly unique to Jews.

    Would American Jews fight a war against Israel as American Germans fought a War against Germany?

    At least a certain number would.

    https://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-5-connection-with-and-attitudes-towards-israel/
    (All emphasis in quoted text below is mine- Dissident)

    When asked whether caring about Israel is essential, important but not essential, or not an important part of what being Jewish means to them, 43% of American Jews say it is essential, 44% say it is important but not essential, and 12% say it is not important.

    More than half of U.S. Jews say U.S. support for Israel is about right (54%), although a substantial minority says the U.S. is not supportive enough of the Jewish state (31%), and 11% think the U.S. is too supportive. By comparison, 41% of the general public thinks support for Israel is about right, while the rest are nearly evenly divided between those who say the U.S. is not supportive enough (25%) and those who say it is too supportive of the Jewish state (22%). Interestingly, more white evangelical Protestants than Jews think the U.S. currently is not sufficiently supportive of Israel (46% vs. 31%).

    Note that the questions concerning attachment to Israel in the linked survey do not differentiate between the State of Israel and the The Land of Israel. A considerable number of Orthodox Jews, myself included, are theologically anti-Zionist.

    In my experience, Jews are so completely coddled by America that they have not prior thought about the possibility of it warring with Israel given any transgression.

    How many people— Jews or non-Jews– have considered such a possibility? Doesn’t it seem extremely remote, barring what would be a drastic reversal in what has overwhelmingly been U.S. policy toward the Zionist state since its inception?

  257. @Anon
    @kaganovitch


    R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam
     
    Lie. Tikkum Olam isn't even analogy for the work to make the Messianic Period come. Its literally one and the same. The entire point of all Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, is their Messianic Period of World domination.

    Replies: @Dissident

    The entire point of all Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, is their Messianic Period of World domination.

    1.) The primary purpose of fulfilling the commandments and leading a devout and righteous life in Judaism is not to bring the Messiah, per se, but simply to fulfill the will of G-d and bring ourselves closer to Him. Those, in the ideal that we strive toward, should be our sole motivations in fulfilling our religious obligations.

    2.) We yearn and pray for the Messiah but we are enjoined from resorting to any physical, earthly means of attempting to hasten his arrival. Thus, anyone not believing in Judaism in the first place should have no reason to fear anything it may or may not say about the Messianic era.

    3.)The Messiah will bring about a state in which all inhabits of the world will recognize and acknowledge the One, True G-d as defined and understood in Judaism. Recognizing Israel*– the Jews, as His chosen people, all peoples and inhabitants of the world will want to serve us.
    (*Not to be confused with the Zionist heretics and atheists who usurped the name ‘Israel’ for the blasphemous state that they established in direct defiance of near-unanimous rabbinic consensus.)

    Are there various prophecies in the Hebrew Bible* and statements in the Talmud and other canonical texts of Judaism that foretell of terrible violence and retribution that will be suffered by various non-believers, sinners, blasphemers and enemies of the Jewish people? Sure there are. (And they apply to Jews as well as non-Jews, by the way. In fact, in at least many respects, a Jewish apostate or a Jew who persecutes his own people is considered worse than any non-Jew.) Is any of this any more outlandish, offensive or alarming than any number of comparable statements, beliefs and concepts that are found within Christianity and any number of other religions?

    (*Concerning the Hebrew Bible, called the Old Testament by Christians, I note that last I checked, they, too, considered it to be the word of G-d.)

    4.) In response to your phrase, “all Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism”, it should be noted that there is Judaism and there is that which is not Judaism (however much it may be claimed to be or even may resemble Judaism).

    A general rule to apply when encountering anything that is called or claims to be ‘Judaism’ is as follows. If labeled as or claimed to be Orthodox, it is likely but not necessarily authentic Judaism. If neither labeled nor claimed to be Orthodox, it is almost certainly not authentic Judaism. So-called non-Orthodox Judaism is not Judaism at all.

    5.) Concerning Tikkun Olam, See my earlier comment on this in this thread and the more detailed comment of mine on the topic linked therein.

    Promoted by liberal, non-Orthodox, and secular Jews, the “Tikkun Olam” being referred-to here is a complete perversion of the authentic Judaic concept by that name.

  258. @Anonymous
    @kaganovitch

    Thing is , this is b.s. All-male events are held by right wing Orthodox Jews. R.w.Orthodox Jews don’t care about tikkun olam, nor do they mind if anyone else holds all-male events. Reform Jews who are busy with Tikkun Olam regularly excoriate Orthodox Jews for sexism (see “women of the wall etc. etc.)

    I am ridiculing the NYT and general establishment's love and approval of the Jewish ethnicity's all-white male event (subgroup completely irrelevant) when we all know that any other white goy male event, religious or otherwise would be written about as some dark, foreboding coming of a new Hitler.

    Replies: @Dissident

    I am ridiculing the NYT and general establishment’s love and approval of the Jewish ethnicity’s all-white male event (subgroup completely irrelevant) when we all know that any other white goy male event, religious or otherwise would be written about as some dark, foreboding coming of a new Hitler.

    You may very well be correct in so far as finding evidence of a double-standard in the linked NY Times article on the Siyum HaShas that took place on January 1st in MetLife Stadium. It is indeed difficult to imagine the likes of the Times covering any predominately* White, predominately male, right-wing non-Jewish event as favorably (or even just neutrally) as they did this Orthodox Jewish one. In not acknowledging this until now, I may have been remiss.

    All the above said, everything that I wrote in my previous posts to this thread stands.

    In general, Orthodox Jews present a challenge for the Narrative in many of the same ways that Muslims do. As Jews we are obviously part of a protected group under the prevailing dispensation. But as Orthodox, traditionalist Jews, our very lifestyle is, at a minimum, irredeemably cis-hetero-sexist, homophobic [sic] and transphobic [sic]. Then, of course, there is the the problem that is created for the Narrative when Jews are attacked by persons-of-color or Muslims– a problem we have seen amply demonstrated in the reactions to and coverage of the recent spate of such incidents in the New York metro area. A case of Narrative Collision.

    I have found attitudes and approaches of the Respectables and the Woke toward Orthodox Jews to cut both ways. Sometimes (such as in this case) it does indeed seem that we are given a pass. Other times not, and even the complete opposite– especially when it comes to how non-Orthodox Jews relate to us. In my own life as an Orthodox Jew, my personal casual encounters with non-Orthodox Jews have been mixed, including incidents from each end of the spectrum. Based on nothing more than an outward appearance that immediately identifies me as an Orthodox Jew of the more traditionalist variety, I have been greeted by some non-Orthodox Jews with a conspicuous respect and affinity, and by others with a no-less-conspicuous contempt, disdain and even embarrassment.

    I have also witnessed, as well as personally experienced, a number of instances of non-Orthodox Jews taking liberties in relation to Orthodox Jews and their sensibilities that I cannot imagine the former ever daring to take with anyone else save, possibly, right-wing Christians.

    [MORE]

    [*After reporting that “The vast majority of those in MetLife Stadium were Orthodox men“, the linked NYT article goes-on to tell us that, “There was a special women’s section so wives and daughters could cheer their men on.

    As for the racial makeup of the crowd, while obviously predominately white in appearance, there were surely at least some Jews-of-color in attendance as well. (Such individuals do exist. There are a small number of converts and their descendants from just about all races. There are the Sephardim, many of whom could be considered Arab or Persian. And, certainly, Yemenite Jews (Teimanim), are quite dark. One would likely see more of the latter at a Satmar event, though, for that community has welcomed and absorbed a considerable number of Jews from Yemen.]

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