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  1. “With George W. Bush you had this perfectly normal guy whose tenure got devoured by a war. ”

    I love this new meme that Donald Trump is literally Hitler while George W. Bush is a nice guy they happened to vote against on the basis of polite disagreement but whose presidency they were perfectly willing to accept and respect. George W. Bush was “normal” while it’s evil to “normalize” Donald Trump.

    We’re now in a crisis of democracy this country has never before encountered, a terrifying new reality one couldn’t imagine just a few years ago.

    Unbelievable. Presumably people too young to remember the George W. Bush era will take them at their word…

    • Replies: @MarcB.
    @anonymouslee

    "Unbelievable. Presumably people too young to remember the George W. Bush era will take them at their word…"

    They started this amnesia way back in 2008, during the emergence of the Tea Party movement. All of a sudden RINO's and NeoCon's (who had month's earlier been the root of all evil) instantly became their worthy, reasonable and loyal opposition, while the Tea Partiers represented the modern face of the dangerous and extreme John Birch Society.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @Redman
    @anonymouslee

    I went to college and was friends with a major future neocon. He wrote the major book arguing for war in Iraq (co-written with Bill Kristol). Best seller the month before the bombs were dropped.

    He wrote the the NRP at the time. And his take was very anti-GWB until it was clear he was owned by the neocons. At that point, the whole crowd fell in love with the born-again W. because they new they had a true patsy for Israel.

  2. Who wouldn’t want to invite these two gals to their next party? Nothing but fun, games, and good natured hijinks all around.

  3. That’s a weird one. She’s not the worst who ever lived, but truly adds nothing at all to what the were doing before. Sometimes you gotta defend the flag, I guess.

  4. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/24/devastation_from_hurricane_maria_set_puerto_rico_back_nearly_20_to_30_years.html

    Steve large parts of P Rico are going w/o power for “6 mnths to a yr”….

    Expect large numbers of PRs to start showing up to a city near u soon

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @Neoconned

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/church-usher-22-heralded-hero-deadly-nashville-shooting/story?id=50069344

    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/run_run_gunshots_tennessee_pas.html

    Perp is a Sudanese immigrant. The FBI is investigating to see if its a hate crime.

    Wait til Africa swells to 3-4 billionand they have 50-300million severely mentally ill ppl who theyll try to dump on us.....

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Neoconned

    The Democrats want the PRs to move to purple Florida so they can vote it blue.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Neoconned

    PR, Haiti, Dominican Republic, etc. are more of an east coast problem. Mexico and Central America are more of a west coast, southwest, and midwest problem.

    , @FLgeezer
    @Neoconned

    Isn't the entire populace already in Noo Yawk and Orlando?

    Replies: @FX Enderby

  5. a brooklyn perspective is always nice for the times.

  6. “Michelle: Remember a few weeks before the election, when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right.”

    Yeah, she should be a breath of fresh air, bringing new viewpoints and opinions to a hidebound paper.

    • Replies: @cwhatfuture
    @bobby b

    Hillary was indeed the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse -- in the same way a door man is the last thing standing between you and entering the building.

    As for Ms. Goldberg, the NY Times long ago went past being a parody of itself. It is now just a clique at High School, except not the cool kids or smart kids, or good athletes. No - the kids with green hair and safety pins in their noses and torn clothes. Weird people talking to each other.

  7. In the NYT interview linked to, Ms Goldberg characterised a fourteen year old boy’s sexual assault on a five year old girl as “disturbing” and “ambiguous”. She found it “disturbing” because folks got upset about the incident. Need one mention it was an inter-racial attack on a little white girl?

    According to Wikipedia, Ms Goldberg recently reviewed a book about college rape. She wrongly said the book ignored relevant government statistics and incorrectly described it’s discussion of other statistics. Her comments were formally retracted later. BTW, Ms Goldberg’s review appeared in the NYT Review of Books.

    Ms Goldberg should feel right at home at the NYT.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Felix M

    Having a token shabbas goy as a frontman is a tried and tested tactic.

  8. “Well, I’m proud of a piece I wrote for Slate last year about a really sad situation in Twin Falls, Idaho. It’s fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee boys — they were 7, 10 and 14 — and a white 5-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town.”

    What the hell? How could we miss that article? Pure Isteve fodder!
    Michelle Goldberg seems fully on board with the
    “Russia stole the elections from Hillary!” lunacy.

    BTW, the NY Times must be about 90%+ Jewish and the rest token gentiles, some of them being Persons of Vibrancy. It does not look like America, not even like New York!

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @BB753

    Persons of Vibrancy. Good one!

    Replies: @BB753

    , @anon
    @BB753


    It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town.”
     
    i'm aware that a white nationalist or separatist group was trying to organize a demonstration but i dont think it happened probably because they couldn't get funding. They tried to crowdfund online and didnt have much luck. Maybe this is what they mean by "Russia was involved"?

    Replies: @BB753

  9. (((Bazelon))) in the NYT:

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Anonymous

    She writes her conclusion about the group whom the law will punish – known by anyone with half a brain to be teeming with violent predators – as if it were a bad thing....

    In other ostensibly appalling news, laws protecting wildlife harm poachers and polluters.

    , @Erik L
    @Anonymous

    Maybe she has a son. Maybe this induces reason on this issue but she feels she must express it in a politically correct manner instead of "I have a son and would prefer that our normal justice standards apply to him as well"? Maybe

  10. “Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster”, and
    “Yeah, I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact.”

    Oh yeah, she’s diverse. She’s also a great author: “Goldberg’s first book, Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism (2006), was a finalist for the 2007 New York Public Library’s Helen Bernstein Book Award for Excellence in Journalism.”

    This is held up as qualification. Yeah, for a Jewish and Liberal meat grinder.

    It’s clear she isn’t a hateful White, surely a Jewish-and-minority-woman:
    She’s the template for feminist, liberal and Jewish privilege that hangs over the media centers and big cities like a persistent rash. There is no group Whiter, richer and more privileged. And yet, she claims virtue somehow. Oh, the Poland Springs, isn’t that baaaaaaad for the environment?

    • Replies: @bored identity
    @Jim Christian

    bored identity believes that this Well-Chosen Diversifier should be filed under :

    Every.Single.Fifth.Columnist.

  11. Michelle Goldberg’s father was editorial page editor of The Buffalo News. She attended the University of Buffalo as an undergraduate, and in the early 1990s when a pro-life group put up and anti-abortion display (which was vandalized within 24 hours) Goldberg wrote an essay in the student newspaper, The Spectrum, entitled Rant for Choice. It included lines such as “if I die with a coathanger up my c_nt, it will be their fault. If you see them on campus today, spit on them and kick them in the head.”

    Of course, the administration did not attempt to sanction her or the paper for advocating violence against conservatives.

    Nice promotion there, I see…

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @Dr. X

    "if I die with a coathanger up my c_nt, it will be their fault"

    Talk about a win-win! Can it also be my fault too, please?

  12. As the progressive nuts like to say: Wow! Just wow!

    Well, I hope the NYT keeps up what it’s doing because it just gets more and more conservatives elected. Here’s hoping Michelle Goldberg gets to write a column about Trumps next SCOTUS pick before the end of this year.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @JimB

    You mean conservatives like Ryan, McCain and McConnell who are perfectly fine with massive immigration - legal and illegal - and who cower at the hint of being called a racist.

    Yep, a few more of those conservatives and whites will be truly sunk.

    Replies: @JimB

  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Well, I’m proud of a piece I wrote for Slate last year about a really sad situation in Twin Falls, Idaho. It’s fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee boys — they were 7, 10 and 14 — and a white 5-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town.

    Breitbart were hugely distorting the story, says the latest to come out of the Slate-NYT pipeline, as she flawlessly injects the )))Russia((( narrative into it.

  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Sylvie Kauffmann SEPT. 22, 2017

    Early this month, on the day after President Trump announced his intention to end the Dreamers program for young immigrants in the United States, the European Court of Justice issued a very different ruling on the other side of the Atlantic. Dismissing the objections of Hungary and Slovakia to the European Union refugee relocation program, the court upheld the European Commission’s legal right to request all member states to take in a prescribed number of refugees, as it did at the height of the migrant crisis in 2015.

    Both decisions touched on issues rooted in Western liberal values: human solidarity, openness toward those looking for a better future, diversity as an asset. For the first time since World War II, these values have come under attack in the West. Not from hostile foreign powers. Not from domestic fringe elements or extremist political movements, which we have come to see as a testimony to the pluralism of our democracies. This time, the assault is coming from within and from the top — from democratically elected leaders.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous


    Dismissing the objections of Hungary and Slovakia to the European Union refugee relocation program, ...
     
    Hey, how about we start a new Axis of Evil 2.0? It'll be America, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. No, it doesn't have to be a straight line - just look at Axis of Evil 1.0.

    Poland can join up if they promise to keep being evil.

    OK, guys, who's in?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous


    Both decisions touched on issues rooted in Western liberal values: human solidarity, openness toward those looking for a better future, diversity as an asset.
     
    These may be "western liberal" values. They are not necessarily western values.

    This time, the assault is coming from within and from the top — from democratically elected leaders.
     
    I.e., because people wanted it and voted for it. Ms. Kauffmann claims to value democracy, but not when it permits people to get what they want.
  15. Michelle: Remember a few weeks before the election, when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward.

    So a temporary 4 year slowdown in the boot stomping on an American flag forever is “the apocalypse” and “an inconceivable civic disaster.” These people combine the emotional maturity of a baby denied its bottle with the delusion of an anorexic gazing into a full length mirror.

    Also we “bear witness” to The Trump Administration as if it were a genocide. Say what you will about the Times, they give their readers what they want.

  16. As the New York Times’ motto goes: All the Jews That’re Fit to Print.

  17. Ms. Goldberg may be drearily typical as far as her skin color, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, educational pedigree, place of residence, and career trajectory. However, she brings a fresh new perspective to the NYT, writing insightfully to expose its readership to unfamiliar new ideas. From the piece that Steve links:

    Remember… when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward… I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact.

    At the moment, Ms. Goldman is being extended a warm welcome by the Comments section. For instance, ‘Grace Thorsen’ links Vanity Fair‘s glowing account of Goldman’s recent NYT review of Vanessa Grigoriadis’s new book, Blurred Lines.

    Grigoriadis’s response was fierce: she in turn chastened Goldberg for being the one with an insufficient grasp of the facts. “Not one charge she makes in her review is correct,” Grigoriadis wrote in a blistering, point-by-point rebuttal… Indeed… Goldberg’s piece had [to be] appended with a monster correction… Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.

    Welcome aboard, Michelle!

    • LOL: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @ic1000

    She'll fit right in at The Paper of Altered Record, a.k.a. The Old Grey Senile Lady. Come on, Joan of Archives, help bring down the last shreds of the New Yellow Times.

    , @hhsiii
    @ic1000

    That's Grigoriadis slamming Goldberg for emphasizing facts contrary to the campus rape woke party line that Grigoriadis downplays.

    Replies: @Johan Schmidt, @ic1000

    , @Olorin
    @ic1000

    I used to consider iSteve the most interesting blog on the internet in terms of blogger and commenter effortposting.

    Now I consider it a labor-saving device.

    ic, I came down here to quote the same thing you did, bam, first commenter, opening quote.



    Remember a few weeks before the election, when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward.
     
    But I was going to take an HBD spin on it involving death ("apocalypse"), reproduction ("bear"), and sex ("grope").

    Your catch on the catfighting at SI Newhouse's/Bob Sauerberg's fashion rag underscores that.

    Sauerberg used to be the CFO of the NYT Co. for what it's worth. These females are so well and truly liberated, scratching each other's eyes out to supply content to and gain ascendancy in the eyes of their Wall Street pashas.

    Then there was this:

    Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.
     
    Giving organs and chunks of your life?

    I understand some are looking to the PRC as the new goldineh medina.
    , @Rifleman
    @ic1000

    Goes along perfectly with the last three NY Times hires -

    Maggie Haberman

    Glenn Thrush

    Brett Stephens.

    All Jewish. All sufficiently anti Trump and anti the Deplorable White Racist Americans who voted for him.

  18. Everybody ready for the media to report all day today that Trump’s NFL comments were a disaster for him and the blackpill crowd to proclaim that it’s all over for the 88th time?

    • Replies: @dcthrowback
    @27 year old

    it motivated all the blackpillers i know. they hate sprots (sic) and sportscucks like myself.

    Replies: @Bill

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @27 year old

    If nice guy Jeb had been nominated, none of this bad stuff would be happening. Jeb would never slam woke brothers for obeying their conscience. If only Hillary had won, we’d have made herstory with a president who is presidential.

    Replies: @Bernardista

  19. Well, I think it is good that non-whites are finally getting work at the NYTimes.

  20. Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.

    If only other New York Times columnists could have had vital organs excised for erroneous assertions it is possible that the Iraq War would never have taken place. How about instituting some kind of editorial board tariff involving right arms, hysterectomies, castration, tongues, a pound of flesh, and so on?

  21. Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html

    Her husband, Matt Ipcar, is a digital guy for the Dems. They live in Brooklyn (ldo). She was raised in Buffalo and did attend SUNY at Buffalo (affectionately known as Joo-B to the locals).

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @dcthrowback

    Ha, I know the writer of that book about non-mothers that Goldberg had to turn down. Meghan Daum. She dated a friend of mine. Cute, with a bit of a poor man's intellectual Reese Witherspoon look. Actually maybe cuter. Maybe 25 years ago at least. Now he's married to a woman 18 years his junior with a daughter. I guess Meghan never had kids.

    , @Barnard
    @dcthrowback

    She was reluctant to have kids in part because she didn't want to quit drinking for nine months and have it cut into her travelling to far flung corners of the earth.


    I’ve frequently found motherhood exhilarating, but if I’d done it ten years ago, it might have been terrible.
     
    Yes, it is all about your feelings, nothing else matters. The New York Times must have determined they have an issue picking up readers in the shallow, self absorbed women who constantly need their feelings validated demographic. Maureen Dowd must be a little too deep for them.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @dcthrowback


    Her husband, Matt Ipcar, is a digital guy for the Dems.
     
    I thought that was Anthony Weiner's job.
    , @AnotherDad
    @dcthrowback


    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html
     

    Despite what I think about this hire, this is actually--unintentionally in some respects--a reasonably decent article. In a couple of different ways.

    The first thing that struck me is that she apparently as a college educated young woman did not understand this very basic human idea that children are our immortality. That they are the part of us that lives on after we are gone and continue our family, our race and our civilization into the future. Children are the way we "cheat death".

    Heck, this is something--not dwelling on the "death" part--that I would talk about to the scouts during my time as scoutmaster, often using the "passing the baton" analogy. That the adult leaders were here passing down Scouting to them to help them be the future leaders of our nation and Western civilization after we were gone. And in turn that older scouts were also "passing the baton" of scouting--mentoring, teaching skills--so they would be leading our troop in the years to come. Not exactly rocket science stuff.

    But here's this obviously smart young woman who fancies herself some sort of "intellectual" with the "things to say" to the extent she's a columnist and author of a couple books ... and she didn't seem to grasp this most fundamental aspect of human existence--we all die, but through our children, our families, our race and civilization we live on.

    Goldberg apparently needed to go to Israel to figure this out. I can't help thinking that seeing actually Jewish people concerned about death and their family's continuance in a place that takes the survival of the Jewish race very seriously ... was the prompt she needed to understand basic reality. Conversely Jewish alienation from Gentile society seems to me to account for a good bit of the anti-traditional, anti-natal, anti-white attitudes Jewish writers are continually propagating. They just don't have a visceral connection to the surrounding Gentiles wanting to preserve their family, culture, nation.
    ~

    The 2nd thing that struck me was how incredibly--and apparently unself-consciously--selfish and self-absorbed she was. Oh, i'm flying to London, going out and getting sloshed, then it's off to Thailand or Israel or somewhere. BFD. Hey, I like travelling. I'm glad I've had the chance to do some and hope to do more in retirement. But compared to my kids? If I never got to leave the USofA but had my kids, healthy and doing well--i'm great! And heck, did I really need to actually travel to say India to determine it was like ... India. We have these things called books! Now we even have film. And now the Internet! It's not like world travel is required for an intelligent person to know about the world.
    ~

    Finally--on the intentional side--I thought Goldberg's description of her bonding with baby boy was spot on. The joy, the longing, the all encompassing nature of it, the way her life "flipped" and her career and all the work concerns became the annoying intrusion into her private mommy world.

    I've--obviously--never experience the full female hormonal side of it, though I know how powerful it was for me as a dad. Of course, as a dad I couldn't relax on career--in fact, I had to dig in and push harder to make sure I was a success and there would be bread on the table. But I know about the emotional pull for me. And seen it--hormones full on--in my wife. Goldberg to her credit does a credible job describing her experience.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Achmed E. Newman

  22. @27 year old
    Everybody ready for the media to report all day today that Trump's NFL comments were a disaster for him and the blackpill crowd to proclaim that it's all over for the 88th time?

    Replies: @dcthrowback, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    it motivated all the blackpillers i know. they hate sprots (sic) and sportscucks like myself.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @dcthrowback

    That was certainly my reaction. I thought Goodell's statement was apt:


    The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture.
     
    This is exactly the function that the NFL performs in American culture. Take almost any two American men at random, put them together in a room, and they will soon be talking about the NFL. In the South and a few other places, college football competes for this distinction. Even there, though, Southerners can talk about the NFL, and if they are talking to non-Southrons, they will talk about the NFL.

    The other thing which is really great about Goodell's statement is that he says that football creates "a sense" of unity. There is, in fact, no unity, and football serves the critically important purpose of helping (white) people pretend that there is unity. It does not create any such unity or manifest an already existing unity.

    Of course, energizing though Trump's performance was, it looks like the Ailes/Atwater strategy directed at the emerging alt-right. Make nearly content-free rhetorical gestures towards your base as you sell them out on substance.

    Replies: @Nico

  23. Whose New York Times is it anyway? What’s the New York Times for and why does it matter when it does or says one thing rather than another? It matters to me, I suppose, because the people who take part in pretending to govern my country, Canada, navigate through life by listening to the NYT, directly or indirectly.

    The NYT is expressly and openly a political, civilizational and even racial enemy of mine. This is not my call; they have said so in clear language hundreds of times. They’re gleeful when straight, White men like me suffer some setback, no matter how big or small. They’re energized by data showing people like me will be relegated to minority status in our own countries. They actually like hearing people like me will go extinct in the more distant future. Why does what the NYT thinks and says matter to me? Because, as I said, our governing classes in North America treat it as their guiding star and the NYT likes it when bad things happen to people like me.

    All that being said, I couldn’t care less if one more Jewess is sitting at a keyboard over there. Are we supposed to be watching their staffing decisions closely for signs of glasnost or perestroika? Sorry, I’m not waiting for that to happen.

    • Replies: @bartok
    @Cagey Beast


    Why does what the NYT thinks and says matter to me? Because, as I said, our governing classes in North America treat it as their guiding star
     
    Try a slightly different analogy - it's more tightly coupled than a 'guiding star'. The Democratic Party is merely the political wing of the Cathedral (NYT + Harvard + Washington/NGOs). h/t Moldbug

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

  24. @27 year old
    Everybody ready for the media to report all day today that Trump's NFL comments were a disaster for him and the blackpill crowd to proclaim that it's all over for the 88th time?

    Replies: @dcthrowback, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If nice guy Jeb had been nominated, none of this bad stuff would be happening. Jeb would never slam woke brothers for obeying their conscience. If only Hillary had won, we’d have made herstory with a president who is presidential.

    • Replies: @Bernardista
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Or the ensuing campaign between the two dull candidates would have driven the public into such a deep stupor that the election would have to be cancelled due to lack of interest.

  25. In our faces. Right in our faces.

    And she’s from Slate. When you read the piece, it makes you want to vomit.

    Notice these things and complain, and you are committing a sin. You must accept them.

    Didn’t someone once say that the whole point of forcing people to accept the blatantly absurd is to make them feel powerless?

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Buzz Mohawk

    We need to stop acting like the NYT is one of our institutions, one of the pillars of our political culture and that we're supposed to be watching it closely for signs it's starting to bend our way. It's just a bunch of petty, selfish and malicious people who managed to land a sweet gig. They only have power when people give them that power. They only matter because other people think they matter. They're not even good at their core tasks of providing, honest and pertinent news and disinterested analysis.

    They're not our clergy, nobility or gentry; they're just some Jews n' friends with keyboards and a bad attitude towards the rest of us. Why do I mention their Jewishness? Simply because they themselves never shut up about it and never have for as long as I can remember.

    Replies: @Daniel H

    , @Hhsiii
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Vaclav Havel's The Power of the Powerless. The example is the green grocer who puts the sign "Workers of the World, Unite" in his window. You don't have to believe the lie but you are forced to live within it.

    It's amazing that the article openly questions whether we can afford the constitution. The free press? I always thought the constitution was your last bastion if you oppose the current president. Now they want to do away with it?

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Boot. stamps. face.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Patrick in SC
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I believe you're thinking of the physician-writer, Anthony Daniels, who regularly publishes over at Taki's under the pen name "Ted Dalrymple". His formulation is as follows: "In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better."

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    When people chide you for noticing things, just tell them:

    Okay - I'll pretend not to notice them. Does that really make you feel better? That I'm pretending not to notice them.

    , @whoever
    @Buzz Mohawk

    https://i.imgur.com/s5SbJ1K.jpg

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

  26. @Buzz Mohawk
    In our faces. Right in our faces.

    And she's from Slate. When you read the piece, it makes you want to vomit.

    Notice these things and complain, and you are committing a sin. You must accept them.

    Didn't someone once say that the whole point of forcing people to accept the blatantly absurd is to make them feel powerless?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Patrick in SC, @Mr. Anon, @whoever

    We need to stop acting like the NYT is one of our institutions, one of the pillars of our political culture and that we’re supposed to be watching it closely for signs it’s starting to bend our way. It’s just a bunch of petty, selfish and malicious people who managed to land a sweet gig. They only have power when people give them that power. They only matter because other people think they matter. They’re not even good at their core tasks of providing, honest and pertinent news and disinterested analysis.

    They’re not our clergy, nobility or gentry; they’re just some Jews n’ friends with keyboards and a bad attitude towards the rest of us. Why do I mention their Jewishness? Simply because they themselves never shut up about it and never have for as long as I can remember.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    @Cagey Beast

    Within 5 years, the NY Times will survive to the extent that Carlos Slim (or some other billionaire patron) finds it useful. The Times doesn't matter anymore, except to laugh at.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

  27. It’s such an epic institutional failure that it calls everything we thought we knew about this country’s stability into question.

    This was Michelle riffing on something… probably her hiring.

  28. In the past at least she has been near-paranoid about anti-Semitism in the South, as I remember from listening to her on Bloggingheads.tv.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Luke Lea

    From Judah Benjamin, to Sabrina Rubin Erdeley...

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Luke Lea

    She also takes at face value the claim that Russia tried to organize a "racist" rally in Twin Falls, Idaho:


    Well, I’m proud of a piece I wrote for Slate last year about a really sad situation in Twin Falls, Idaho. It’s fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee boys — they were 7, 10 and 14 — and a white 5-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town.
     
    It's got rape, bigoted rural Whites and sinister cyber-cossacks; "what's not to like??" as they say.

    The newspaper of record is in good hands. The great thing is oversocialized Whites from Moose Jaw to Santa Monica will take this as gospel because it's in the New York Times, the Swiss watch of truth-telling.

    , @Patrick Harris
    @Luke Lea

    I grew up in the small-town South. I basically thought of Jews as Biblical characters until I was at least in high school.

    , @fnn
    @Luke Lea

    Of course the South has always been the LEAST anti-Semitic part of the US. There were even two Jews on the Grand Jury that indicted Leo Frank.

    Replies: @Alden

  29. Rube Goldberg was more entertaining in his day than Michelle Goldberg is today. The NY Times and the Democrat Party will not listen to Tom Edsall about Whites Without College Degrees and how to win their votes. The NY Times will listen to the anti-White shyster Michelle Goldberg as she tries to buck up the spirits of the dwindling number of White Women With College Degrees who vote for the Democrat Party.

    Reminder: 56 percent of White women voted for President Trump.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  30. @Luke Lea
    In the past at least she has been near-paranoid about anti-Semitism in the South, as I remember from listening to her on Bloggingheads.tv.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Cagey Beast, @Patrick Harris, @fnn

    From Judah Benjamin, to Sabrina Rubin Erdeley…

  31. @Luke Lea
    In the past at least she has been near-paranoid about anti-Semitism in the South, as I remember from listening to her on Bloggingheads.tv.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Cagey Beast, @Patrick Harris, @fnn

    She also takes at face value the claim that Russia tried to organize a “racist” rally in Twin Falls, Idaho:

    Well, I’m proud of a piece I wrote for Slate last year about a really sad situation in Twin Falls, Idaho. It’s fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee boys — they were 7, 10 and 14 — and a white 5-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town.

    It’s got rape, bigoted rural Whites and sinister cyber-cossacks; “what’s not to like??” as they say.

    The newspaper of record is in good hands. The great thing is oversocialized Whites from Moose Jaw to Santa Monica will take this as gospel because it’s in the New York Times, the Swiss watch of truth-telling.

  32. @ic1000
    Ms. Goldberg may be drearily typical as far as her skin color, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, educational pedigree, place of residence, and career trajectory. However, she brings a fresh new perspective to the NYT, writing insightfully to expose its readership to unfamiliar new ideas. From the piece that Steve links:

    Remember... when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward... I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact.
     
    At the moment, Ms. Goldman is being extended a warm welcome by the Comments section. For instance, 'Grace Thorsen' links Vanity Fair's glowing account of Goldman's recent NYT review of Vanessa Grigoriadis’s new book, Blurred Lines.

    Grigoriadis’s response was fierce: she in turn chastened Goldberg for being the one with an insufficient grasp of the facts. “Not one charge she makes in her review is correct,” Grigoriadis wrote in a blistering, point-by-point rebuttal... Indeed... Goldberg’s piece had [to be] appended with a monster correction... Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.
     
    Welcome aboard, Michelle!

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers, @hhsiii, @Olorin, @Rifleman

    She’ll fit right in at The Paper of Altered Record, a.k.a. The Old Grey Senile Lady. Come on, Joan of Archives, help bring down the last shreds of the New Yellow Times.

  33. @Buzz Mohawk
    In our faces. Right in our faces.

    And she's from Slate. When you read the piece, it makes you want to vomit.

    Notice these things and complain, and you are committing a sin. You must accept them.

    Didn't someone once say that the whole point of forcing people to accept the blatantly absurd is to make them feel powerless?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Patrick in SC, @Mr. Anon, @whoever

    Vaclav Havel’s The Power of the Powerless. The example is the green grocer who puts the sign “Workers of the World, Unite” in his window. You don’t have to believe the lie but you are forced to live within it.

    It’s amazing that the article openly questions whether we can afford the constitution. The free press? I always thought the constitution was your last bastion if you oppose the current president. Now they want to do away with it?

  34. @ic1000
    Ms. Goldberg may be drearily typical as far as her skin color, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, educational pedigree, place of residence, and career trajectory. However, she brings a fresh new perspective to the NYT, writing insightfully to expose its readership to unfamiliar new ideas. From the piece that Steve links:

    Remember... when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward... I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact.
     
    At the moment, Ms. Goldman is being extended a warm welcome by the Comments section. For instance, 'Grace Thorsen' links Vanity Fair's glowing account of Goldman's recent NYT review of Vanessa Grigoriadis’s new book, Blurred Lines.

    Grigoriadis’s response was fierce: she in turn chastened Goldberg for being the one with an insufficient grasp of the facts. “Not one charge she makes in her review is correct,” Grigoriadis wrote in a blistering, point-by-point rebuttal... Indeed... Goldberg’s piece had [to be] appended with a monster correction... Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.
     
    Welcome aboard, Michelle!

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers, @hhsiii, @Olorin, @Rifleman

    That’s Grigoriadis slamming Goldberg for emphasizing facts contrary to the campus rape woke party line that Grigoriadis downplays.

    • Replies: @Johan Schmidt
    @hhsiii

    I'm afraid there's too many negatives for me to be able to parse that sentence.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Hhsiii

    , @ic1000
    @hhsiii

    > That’s Grigoriadis slamming Goldberg for emphasizing facts contrary to the campus rape woke party line that Grigoriadis downplays.

    Scanning Goldberg's review, both she and Grigoriadis seem to be on the same side. Good catch, Grigoriadis is the more anti-male of the two.

    Replies: @Hhsiii

  35. Maybe she will cover what is happening with Valerie Plame.

  36. @dcthrowback
    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html

    Her husband, Matt Ipcar, is a digital guy for the Dems. They live in Brooklyn (ldo). She was raised in Buffalo and did attend SUNY at Buffalo (affectionately known as Joo-B to the locals).

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Barnard, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    Ha, I know the writer of that book about non-mothers that Goldberg had to turn down. Meghan Daum. She dated a friend of mine. Cute, with a bit of a poor man’s intellectual Reese Witherspoon look. Actually maybe cuter. Maybe 25 years ago at least. Now he’s married to a woman 18 years his junior with a daughter. I guess Meghan never had kids.

  37. Doesn’t the things she talks about suggest that the left would like to do to the Constitution what they always accuse the right of wanting to do? Like in this Simpsons bit?

  38. @Luke Lea
    In the past at least she has been near-paranoid about anti-Semitism in the South, as I remember from listening to her on Bloggingheads.tv.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Cagey Beast, @Patrick Harris, @fnn

    I grew up in the small-town South. I basically thought of Jews as Biblical characters until I was at least in high school.

  39. Diverse in every way but opinion and thought. All that other stuff isn’t supposed to matter, so where’s the diversity
    ?

  40. @dcthrowback
    @27 year old

    it motivated all the blackpillers i know. they hate sprots (sic) and sportscucks like myself.

    Replies: @Bill

    That was certainly my reaction. I thought Goodell’s statement was apt:

    The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture.

    This is exactly the function that the NFL performs in American culture. Take almost any two American men at random, put them together in a room, and they will soon be talking about the NFL. In the South and a few other places, college football competes for this distinction. Even there, though, Southerners can talk about the NFL, and if they are talking to non-Southrons, they will talk about the NFL.

    The other thing which is really great about Goodell’s statement is that he says that football creates “a sense” of unity. There is, in fact, no unity, and football serves the critically important purpose of helping (white) people pretend that there is unity. It does not create any such unity or manifest an already existing unity.

    Of course, energizing though Trump’s performance was, it looks like the Ailes/Atwater strategy directed at the emerging alt-right. Make nearly content-free rhetorical gestures towards your base as you sell them out on substance.

    • Agree: dcthrowback
    • Replies: @Nico
    @Bill


    Of course, energizing though Trump’s performance was, it looks like the Ailes/Atwater strategy directed at the emerging alt-right. Make nearly content-free rhetorical gestures towards your base as you sell them out on substance.
     
    The reason I'm not yet blackpilled on Trump is because I'm not disappointed in the non-realization of fantastic expectations I never had. If Trump can shift the Overton window and dismantle these ersatz icons of "unity" that may, just may, be enough. The best thing any of us can do is to keep that in mind and keep a vigilant eye over the next few years. Triumph is still quite a ways off

    Replies: @AM

  41. @Buzz Mohawk
    In our faces. Right in our faces.

    And she's from Slate. When you read the piece, it makes you want to vomit.

    Notice these things and complain, and you are committing a sin. You must accept them.

    Didn't someone once say that the whole point of forcing people to accept the blatantly absurd is to make them feel powerless?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Patrick in SC, @Mr. Anon, @whoever

    Boot. stamps. face.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @PiltdownMan

    Here's something that would make a good New York Times editorial cartoon:

    http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/tumblr_mm3063Hk7L1r2j4dro1_500.jpg

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

  42. Is she a Black, lesbian single-mother who identifies a Jewish; then congratulations.

  43. I’m shocked the NYT’s didn’t hire Haven Monahan since Rolling Stone is up for sale.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Bubba

    Monohan-no way, Irish, not Jewish. Not a chance. Nothing says "diversity" like another NY liberal Jew.It's like the leftist universal donor of thought. The liberal NY/Northeast Jew perspective can never get enough of an airing.

    As with yesterday's festivities; if you think Steeler/US Army Captain Villanueva and Packer HaHa Clinton Dix(son of a cop) are bad evil divisive people in the face of wonderful "diversity" your views will be duly aired and indulged in the pages of the Times. And they will wonder how it is possible Trump can win again in 2020.

  44. Michelle: I’m sure they will! One issue I imagine I’ll keep coming back to is the structural bias in our system that gives white, rural voters so much more political power than diverse, urban ones.

    Notice the dichotomy: white/diverse. Diverse means non-white. So why not use the much more precise non-white?

  45. Did ya see the new building named after the ‘Hidden Figures’ hero, Katherine Johnson? She’s supposedly black, but looks whiter than typical European old folk.

    • Replies: @Anonymous White Male
    @eric

    That's because most "blacks" totted out as a "credit to their race" aren't even of that race. They are mixed breeds and, because they are mixed, they are more intelligent and better looking. Not that Hidden Figures had any basis in fact, but it is funny how even the left won't use blacks as role models. Like the gay mulatto.

    , @Jack D
    @eric

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her. She understands that her role in the space program was completely peripheral (whatever she did could be done today by a programmable pocket calculator such as a TI-83 and in minutes instead of days), but the needs of modern propaganda require her to be the retconned black female Stankhov of the space program who single handedly launched us into space.

    In the movie they show her repeatedly running for miles thru the rain in order to use the colored ladies bathroom in a distant building. In real life, she just used the nearest woman's restroom - even the book upon which the movie is based, itself a work of propaganda, admits this. This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @whorefinder, @Barnard

  46. @Buzz Mohawk
    In our faces. Right in our faces.

    And she's from Slate. When you read the piece, it makes you want to vomit.

    Notice these things and complain, and you are committing a sin. You must accept them.

    Didn't someone once say that the whole point of forcing people to accept the blatantly absurd is to make them feel powerless?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Patrick in SC, @Mr. Anon, @whoever

    I believe you’re thinking of the physician-writer, Anthony Daniels, who regularly publishes over at Taki’s under the pen name “Ted Dalrymple”. His formulation is as follows: “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.”

  47. @dcthrowback
    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html

    Her husband, Matt Ipcar, is a digital guy for the Dems. They live in Brooklyn (ldo). She was raised in Buffalo and did attend SUNY at Buffalo (affectionately known as Joo-B to the locals).

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Barnard, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    She was reluctant to have kids in part because she didn’t want to quit drinking for nine months and have it cut into her travelling to far flung corners of the earth.

    I’ve frequently found motherhood exhilarating, but if I’d done it ten years ago, it might have been terrible.

    Yes, it is all about your feelings, nothing else matters. The New York Times must have determined they have an issue picking up readers in the shallow, self absorbed women who constantly need their feelings validated demographic. Maureen Dowd must be a little too deep for them.

  48. Diversity to a Marxist in 1960: 1 Stalinist, 1 Trotskyite, 1 Maoist, 1 Fanonista, 1 Castroite, and a half dozen fellow traveling Liberals.

    Diversity to Mainstream American media: 5 Leftist Jews, 3 Leftist blacks, 3 Leftist gays, 2 Leftist Asians, 2 Leftist white Gentiles, 1 Western hating Moslem, and 1 token moderate passed off as a conservative.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Jake

    Diversity to Mainstream American media: 5 Leftist Jews, 3 Leftist blacks, 3 Leftist gays, 2 Leftist Asians, 2 Leftist white Gentiles, 1 Western hating Moslem, and 1 token moderate passed off as a conservative.

    We are a few years into World War T, and you still can't spare a thought for the gender non-conformist? For shame!

  49. Coming from an Unz.com columnist? Looking forward to a 2nd female…

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @anony-mouse

    Nobody at unz.com is making a pitch for diversity, so why should they live by it? The New York Times, on the other hand...

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @anony-mouse

    Where has Unz.com ever claimed that gender or racial diversity was a goal of the publication?

    As best as I can tell, Unz wants writers who offer arguments different from what you find in the MSM. And he certainly succeeds.

    OTOH, the NYT never shuts up about the virtues of diversity - particularly racial and religious diversity - yet it hires a white, Jewish, urban liberal as its new columnist. It's almost as though the NYT crowd doesn't actually believe that diversity is all that great when it comes to their own lives and business.

    Of course, everyone around here knows what the NYT really values so the hire of Ms. Goldberg makes perfect sense, but, still, it's enjoyable to poke some fun at their hypocrisy, not that they're ever get the joke.

  50. @eric
    Did ya see the new building named after the 'Hidden Figures' hero, Katherine Johnson? She's supposedly black, but looks whiter than typical European old folk.

    Replies: @Anonymous White Male, @Jack D

    That’s because most “blacks” totted out as a “credit to their race” aren’t even of that race. They are mixed breeds and, because they are mixed, they are more intelligent and better looking. Not that Hidden Figures had any basis in fact, but it is funny how even the left won’t use blacks as role models. Like the gay mulatto.

  51. Did ya see the new building named after the ‘Hidden Figures’ hero, Katherine Johnson? She’s supposedly black, but looks whiter than typical European old folk.

    Someday, no doubt, the entire Johnson Space Center in Houston will be renamed after her, ala King County in Washington.

  52. Twin Falls, Idaho [is] a fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee [sic] resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee [sic] boys — they were seven, ten and fourteen — and a white five-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly.

    This woman is willfully disingenuous to write such nonsense. This bitch thinks it “got ugly?” Let’s explore just how ugly it got*:

    Three boys involved in a June assault on a five-year-old girl at the Fawnbrook Apartments in Twin Falls pleaded guilty…to felonies.

    “We agreed to the plea bargains. That by no means implies my clients were, or are, fully satisfied with the outcome of these cases or the prosecuting attorney,” Mark Guerry, the attorney representing the victim’s family. “After ten months their right to some form of justice was long overdue…. They were prepared to testify at a trial or enter into to plea agreements months ago. More importantly, no convictions or mere words in statements could ever mitigate the unrelenting trauma and grief their little daughter now suffers as a result of this vicious sexual assault.” Guerry in April made clear his clients, though they approved the plea agreements, already weren’t satisfied with the boys’ punishments nor with the prosecution’s approach. Tuesday, he said the family of the girl was “especially disappointed with the public conduct of [the prosecutor], who over the past year advocated in the media on behalf of these three sex offenders repeatedly, rather than focus on zealous representation of the victim as was his obligation.”

    Police and prosecutors … characterized the incident as a sexual assault. The boys were charged not long after the … incident, and later that month their families were evicted from the apartment complex…. The youngest boy is from Iraq and the two older boys, who are brothers, are from Eritrea.

    One boy pleaded guilty to felony exploitation of a child and misdemeanor battery. A second boy pleaded guilty of aiding and abetting felony lewd conduct and aiding and abetting misdemonear battery. The third boy pleaded guilty to a charge of accessory to the commission of a felony.

    Let’s be very clear what the jargon involved means in plain English:

    Exploitation of Child“Sexually exploitative material” means any … photograph … which shows a child … being used for explicit sexual conduct….

    A person commits sexual exploitation of a child if he knowingly and willfully: [C]auses, induces, or permits a child to engage in, or be used for, any explicit sexual conduct for the purpose of producing or making sexually exploitative material….

    Lewd Conduct: Any person who shall commit any lewd or lascivious act or acts upon or with the body or any part or member thereof of a minor child under the age of sixteen years, including but not limited to, genital-genital contact, oral-genital contact, anal-genital contact, oral-anal contact, manual-anal contact, or manual-genital contact … when any of such acts are done with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust or passions or sexual desires of such person … shall be guilty of a felony and shall be imprisoned in the state prison for a term of not more than life.

    Idaho Code §§ 18-1507 – 1508 (2016)

    Rape is a very specific crime; in most jurisdictions it is explicitly limited to forced penetration of a vagina by a penis. The repeated, smug protestations that there was “no rape” in the case at hand and that the whole thing was blow out of proportion are akin to Mr. Clinton’s claims he “did not have sex” with Miss Lewinsky. We all know damn good and well what happened here: one of these monsters used his hands to grope a little girl’s genitals; possibly, he placed his penis in her mouth. Another took photographs. The third stood watch. Detailed, accurate reports, including interviews with the elderly woman to whom the victim first came for consolation, who heard the victims explanation, make these facts clear. The convictions (a plea of guilty is a conviction!) confirm them.

    A mentally disabled child of five was sexually violated by a fourteen-year-old. I remember being fourteen. Like nearly all fourteen-year-old-males, I was constantly horny and raging for sex. I had involuntary erections if the wind blew. I’d have considered amputating an arm for five minutes with one of the pretty cheerleaders in my high school. Never once did the idea of gratifying myself with a five-year-old cross my mind. These animals, and all of their defenders and enablers, would be hung from a tree if the U.S.A. still existed.

    *The Idaho Statesman is now a superior paper to The New York Times despite the gross difference in resources favouring the latter.

    • Agree: yyrvjh, Bill
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Autochthon


    The repeated, smug protestations that there was “no rape” in the case at hand and that the whole thing was blow out of proportion are akin to Mr. Clinton’s claims he “did not have sex” with Miss Lewinsky.
     
    As far as I understand Clinton didn't. He got a blow job or possibly a hand job, or possibly a mixture from her a time or two, and poked her privates with a cigar (very poor use of a good smoke) but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.

    Rape is harder to pin down, because it is a legal term as well as a vernacular term, and some states don't use the word rape at all, preferring something like "sexual battery in the third degree".

    There is a general point to be made that in sexual assault cases, people are so uncomfortable talking about the crime that what the perpetrator did to the victim is hardly ever accurately described in journalistic accounts for public consumption, and while one can see very well why this is the case, it leads to people using their imaginations a great deal to fill in the blanks.

    Replies: @Jack D

  53. @Buzz Mohawk
    In our faces. Right in our faces.

    And she's from Slate. When you read the piece, it makes you want to vomit.

    Notice these things and complain, and you are committing a sin. You must accept them.

    Didn't someone once say that the whole point of forcing people to accept the blatantly absurd is to make them feel powerless?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Patrick in SC, @Mr. Anon, @whoever

    When people chide you for noticing things, just tell them:

    Okay – I’ll pretend not to notice them. Does that really make you feel better? That I’m pretending not to notice them.

  54. If you read the interview, her views are straight Party Line urban liberal. This may seem shockingly unrepresentative of the nation as a whole but she doesn’t write for the nation as a whole, she writes for the New York Times. While the center of mass of its readership is no longer somewhere in the middle of Central Park, it is still overwhelmingly educated urban liberal – she represents the cat ladies of America wherever they may reside. She makes no pretense of being neutral or hiding her undisguised contempt for Trump and the people of the flyover states. The carefully balanced structure of the Constitution means nothing to her if it stands in the way of the cat lady agenda and she would not hesitate to discard it or “reinterpret” it to her liking. It is only useful insofar as it can be used to advance the cat lady agenda.

    • Agree: Forbes
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Jack D

    She even calls herself a cat lady in one of her pieces, but she is actually a traitor to cat ladies everywhere: she has a son.

    Replies: @Rifleman

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @Jack D

    Jack D says:


    The carefully balanced structure of the Constitution means nothing to her if it stands in the way of the cat lady agenda and she would not hesitate to discard it or “reinterpret” it to her liking. It is only useful insofar as it can be used to advance the cat lady agenda.

     

    I say:

    CAT LADY AGENDA?

    It's too bad that the movie director John Carpenter passed away. He could have made a hell of a horror movie starting with that title. Cat Lady Agenda by John Carpenter -- that is scary.
  55. Gail: Maybe we can plan a joint excursion to Wyoming. I want to see the folks whose senate vote counts for 67 Californians. My experience with other thinly populated states, however, suggests that they will tell me it’s an excellent plan.

    Michelle: I’m sure they will! One issue I imagine I’ll keep coming back to is the structural bias in our system that gives white, rural voters so much more political power than diverse, urban ones.

    They probably will send her to Jackson Hole to report on the evil whites of flyover country. She can really get a feel for what life is like in Wyoming at $500 a night resort and spa. I assume the non white refugees who have been distributed to rural America to work in the hospitality industry don’t count as much as the ones in our glorious diverse urban areas.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Barnard

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKQ0LskWsAEZ-eD.jpg:small

    It's not enough that they brainwash their enemies into kissing their ass while they destroying everything they value.

    Their non-enemy enemies must be demo-graphically/-cratically destroyed too.

    This is a special kind of hubristic evil.

  56. @Jack D
    If you read the interview, her views are straight Party Line urban liberal. This may seem shockingly unrepresentative of the nation as a whole but she doesn't write for the nation as a whole, she writes for the New York Times. While the center of mass of its readership is no longer somewhere in the middle of Central Park, it is still overwhelmingly educated urban liberal - she represents the cat ladies of America wherever they may reside. She makes no pretense of being neutral or hiding her undisguised contempt for Trump and the people of the flyover states. The carefully balanced structure of the Constitution means nothing to her if it stands in the way of the cat lady agenda and she would not hesitate to discard it or "reinterpret" it to her liking. It is only useful insofar as it can be used to advance the cat lady agenda.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Charles Pewitt

    She even calls herself a cat lady in one of her pieces, but she is actually a traitor to cat ladies everywhere: she has a son.

    • LOL: Abe
    • Replies: @Rifleman
    @Daniel Chieh


    She even calls herself a cat lady in one of her pieces, but she is actually a traitor to cat ladies everywhere: she has a son.
     
    Technically not if she gave birth to or adopted (preferably from Haiti or Africa) a black one.
  57. @Luke Lea
    In the past at least she has been near-paranoid about anti-Semitism in the South, as I remember from listening to her on Bloggingheads.tv.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Cagey Beast, @Patrick Harris, @fnn

    Of course the South has always been the LEAST anti-Semitic part of the US. There were even two Jews on the Grand Jury that indicted Leo Frank.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @fnn

    Well, there was clear and present physical evidence that Leo Frank did it. His hair, not the hair of the black man the Jews blamed for the murder and rape were all over her shoulders, chest, head and between her legs.

    The local police might not have advanced forensic science in those days but they had eyes, magnifying glasses and microscopes that were totally capable of distinguishing Caucasian hair from negro hair. And there was not one negro hair on Mary Phagan.

  58. @anony-mouse
    Coming from an Unz.com columnist? Looking forward to a 2nd female...

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Nobody at unz.com is making a pitch for diversity, so why should they live by it? The New York Times, on the other hand…

  59. @anony-mouse
    Coming from an Unz.com columnist? Looking forward to a 2nd female...

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Where has Unz.com ever claimed that gender or racial diversity was a goal of the publication?

    As best as I can tell, Unz wants writers who offer arguments different from what you find in the MSM. And he certainly succeeds.

    OTOH, the NYT never shuts up about the virtues of diversity – particularly racial and religious diversity – yet it hires a white, Jewish, urban liberal as its new columnist. It’s almost as though the NYT crowd doesn’t actually believe that diversity is all that great when it comes to their own lives and business.

    Of course, everyone around here knows what the NYT really values so the hire of Ms. Goldberg makes perfect sense, but, still, it’s enjoyable to poke some fun at their hypocrisy, not that they’re ever get the joke.

    • Agree: Triumph104
  60. From Goldberg’s Huffpost link in Comment 3:

    “Meanwhile, 35 was creeping up on me. I’d been led to believe, falsely, that this is when most women’s fertility collapses. ”

    Goldberg spews more damaging information to her fellow women. Also, unscientific.

  61. @eric
    Did ya see the new building named after the 'Hidden Figures' hero, Katherine Johnson? She's supposedly black, but looks whiter than typical European old folk.

    Replies: @Anonymous White Male, @Jack D

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her. She understands that her role in the space program was completely peripheral (whatever she did could be done today by a programmable pocket calculator such as a TI-83 and in minutes instead of days), but the needs of modern propaganda require her to be the retconned black female Stankhov of the space program who single handedly launched us into space.

    In the movie they show her repeatedly running for miles thru the rain in order to use the colored ladies bathroom in a distant building. In real life, she just used the nearest woman’s restroom – even the book upon which the movie is based, itself a work of propaganda, admits this. This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Jack D


    This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.
     
    Ah, but your kids will remember this when they are forced to watch it in school to discuss the Bad Old Days.

    Leftists working hard to destroy past, present and future.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her.

    (I posted this on a different thread, but I'll post it here, too.)

    The naming of the NASA building for Katherine Johnson is likely about the elites using the power they have to tell people who is in charge and in the process to “dispossess, humiliate, and suppress the Middle American core.”

    These are ideas taken from an article I read about Sam Francis.

    , @whorefinder
    @Jack D

    There's been a spate of true crime podocasts/documentaries that "prove" the innocence of a convict. I think NPR led the way on that one, and Netflix/Amazon/Hulu have followed suit. Most are extremely selectively edited and/or the only voices are those of the defendant.

    The funny part is these "true crime" works are almost exactly the same as the lowbrow ID network/48 hours-type criminal shows where a case is followed/dramatized from beginning to end and the narrator works hard to sew doubt or at least create tension . NPR/Netflix are just making them catchy with people who think themselves above such plebian fare, with the twist that the convicted was "innocent" and railroaded (most of the ID network fare is just about recreating the crimes in lurid fashion so women. who are the majority of the audience, enjoy the drama).

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Barnard
    @Jack D

    The History Vs. Hollywood entry on Hidden Figures was good, almost all the white characters in the movie are either composites or completely made up in order to "represent the unconscious bias and prejudice of the era."


    http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/hidden-figures/

    Replies: @Jack D

  62. @Neoconned
    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/24/devastation_from_hurricane_maria_set_puerto_rico_back_nearly_20_to_30_years.html

    Steve large parts of P Rico are going w/o power for "6 mnths to a yr"....

    Expect large numbers of PRs to start showing up to a city near u soon

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Steve Sailer, @Jus' Sayin'..., @FLgeezer

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/church-usher-22-heralded-hero-deadly-nashville-shooting/story?id=50069344

    http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/09/run_run_gunshots_tennessee_pas.html

    Perp is a Sudanese immigrant. The FBI is investigating to see if its a hate crime.

    Wait til Africa swells to 3-4 billionand they have 50-300million severely mentally ill ppl who theyll try to dump on us…..

  63. @Jack D
    @eric

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her. She understands that her role in the space program was completely peripheral (whatever she did could be done today by a programmable pocket calculator such as a TI-83 and in minutes instead of days), but the needs of modern propaganda require her to be the retconned black female Stankhov of the space program who single handedly launched us into space.

    In the movie they show her repeatedly running for miles thru the rain in order to use the colored ladies bathroom in a distant building. In real life, she just used the nearest woman's restroom - even the book upon which the movie is based, itself a work of propaganda, admits this. This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @whorefinder, @Barnard

    This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.

    Ah, but your kids will remember this when they are forced to watch it in school to discuss the Bad Old Days.

    Leftists working hard to destroy past, present and future.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Daniel Chieh

    Since this is "based on a true story" the movie will become the historical record as much as if it were a documentary film. The movie creates its own Truthiness, which is greater than any actual Truth. The Left accuses Trump of doing this, but it is merely projection - the stuff that they do is 100x worse because no one ever contests it while Trump's every word is contested.

    Replies: @whorefinder

  64. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-25/anthony-weiner-sentenced-21-months-prison

    Carlos Danger cries like a cuck before being sent off to prison. Well this is one thing Hillary & Huma have in common…..uncontrollable hisbands w insane libidos….

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Neoconned

    Thank you for that link. The court artist's rendering of Weiner crying is priceless.

    Replies: @Ivy

  65. As Hillary would say, what difference does it make? Does anyone still READ the NYT?

    When I lived in NYC, I read it only if I was job-hunting after the latest hostile takeover. And since I wasn’t about to shell out for the whole Sunday paper when I had no intention of reading the rest of it, I usually picked the Employment section out of my neighbors’ discarded issues (not as gross as it sounds, since paper was in a separate recycling pile).

  66. She is a monster. A filthy,sleazy snake in the grass.
    She talks about her pain in seeing unfortunate events unfold in heretofore “welcoming” Twin Falls,Idaho.
    There was a story involving three refugee boys and a 5yr old white girl. Some nonsense about the boys sexually assaulting the girl. Goldberg informs us that the story was “distorted”! (By Breitbart). Should’ve known they’d distort that story! Thank GOD we have Goldberg to give us the truth.
    The sad part of the story was that Russians came to Twin Falls to organise,God damn them,an anti immigrant march!
    I wonder if her devil child is ever looked after by refugees?

  67. @ic1000
    Ms. Goldberg may be drearily typical as far as her skin color, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, educational pedigree, place of residence, and career trajectory. However, she brings a fresh new perspective to the NYT, writing insightfully to expose its readership to unfamiliar new ideas. From the piece that Steve links:

    Remember... when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward... I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact.
     
    At the moment, Ms. Goldman is being extended a warm welcome by the Comments section. For instance, 'Grace Thorsen' links Vanity Fair's glowing account of Goldman's recent NYT review of Vanessa Grigoriadis’s new book, Blurred Lines.

    Grigoriadis’s response was fierce: she in turn chastened Goldberg for being the one with an insufficient grasp of the facts. “Not one charge she makes in her review is correct,” Grigoriadis wrote in a blistering, point-by-point rebuttal... Indeed... Goldberg’s piece had [to be] appended with a monster correction... Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.
     
    Welcome aboard, Michelle!

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers, @hhsiii, @Olorin, @Rifleman

    I used to consider iSteve the most interesting blog on the internet in terms of blogger and commenter effortposting.

    Now I consider it a labor-saving device.

    ic, I came down here to quote the same thing you did, bam, first commenter, opening quote.

    Remember a few weeks before the election, when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward.

    But I was going to take an HBD spin on it involving death (“apocalypse”), reproduction (“bear”), and sex (“grope”).

    Your catch on the catfighting at SI Newhouse’s/Bob Sauerberg’s fashion rag underscores that.

    Sauerberg used to be the CFO of the NYT Co. for what it’s worth. These females are so well and truly liberated, scratching each other’s eyes out to supply content to and gain ascendancy in the eyes of their Wall Street pashas.

    Then there was this:

    Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.

    Giving organs and chunks of your life?

    I understand some are looking to the PRC as the new goldineh medina.

  68. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @eric

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her. She understands that her role in the space program was completely peripheral (whatever she did could be done today by a programmable pocket calculator such as a TI-83 and in minutes instead of days), but the needs of modern propaganda require her to be the retconned black female Stankhov of the space program who single handedly launched us into space.

    In the movie they show her repeatedly running for miles thru the rain in order to use the colored ladies bathroom in a distant building. In real life, she just used the nearest woman's restroom - even the book upon which the movie is based, itself a work of propaganda, admits this. This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @whorefinder, @Barnard

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her.

    (I posted this on a different thread, but I’ll post it here, too.)

    The naming of the NASA building for Katherine Johnson is likely about the elites using the power they have to tell people who is in charge and in the process to “dispossess, humiliate, and suppress the Middle American core.”

    These are ideas taken from an article I read about Sam Francis.

  69. This comment at the NYT gives us a foretaste of what the Dems’ 2020 strategy is going to be:

    “One issue I imagine I’ll keep coming back to is the structural bias in our system that gives white, rural voters so much more political power than diverse, urban ones.” [quoting Goldberg]

    Keep focused on this single issue of inequality – why 1 American’s vote is not worth the same as another’s, undermining the #1 premise of our whole system of government.

    See, a system isn’t truly fair and diverse till whites get only 1/5th of a vote–by Constitutional amendment if we can get it, and by demographics if we can’t. And nobody has to register or supply ID or proof of citizenship. And people can vote online as in the queer marriage referendum underway (today? this week?) in Oz.

    That’s what the Founding Parental Units like Michael King and Emma Lazarus intended! One click, one vote!

    Till we achieve that one-party nirvana atop the zuckerberg, you can expect lots of spankings from these ladies and their male doppelgangers.

    But I do urge iSteve readers to pop over and see how the NYT corporation and its hired or self-bonded ideological servants are limning this brave new era of the franchise.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Olorin

    The best part of their logic is that everyone is equally intelligent enough to vote, but getting a photo id for voters is unsurmountable intellectual barrier for some.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Olorin


    See, a system isn’t truly fair and diverse till whites get only 1/5th of a vote
     
    Revenge for some of them getting 1.6 votes, thanks to the three-fifths rule.
  70. She’s from Buffalo, so give them credit for reaching out to flyover country. It’ll be like having Tim Russert back on TV, she’s no doubt going to be Bills Fan #1.

  71. @PiltdownMan
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Boot. stamps. face.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Here’s something that would make a good New York Times editorial cartoon:

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, they'd like to make sure that you see some brown or black skin between the boot and the pants.

    Other than that, it's perfect.

  72. Goldberg is a Koolaid drinking programmed lefty. When Obama was first elected, she was proclaiming that his autobiographies were truly “great” literature.

    Although I think Ann Althouse is a turd, I did like how Althouse took Goldberg to task for her blind hero worship and double standard (because Goldberg was trashing Sarah Palin’s then book). Spanked her like a teacher dressing down a student, or a mother dressing down a bad daughter. It was a great Blogginheads TV video,:

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/06/lets-compare-2-men-and-2-women-in-same.html

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/11/apartment-was-small-with-slanting.html

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/11/finally-bloggingheads-with-me-and.html

    • Replies: @Lucius Somesuch
    @whorefinder

    I've never forgotten that one! Althouse made Michelle Goldberg cry.

    And what's with the Enid Coleslaw hairdo? I remember someone back then cracking about Michelle's "finishing school head tilt pose" in front of the camera. This talentless Jewish teenybopper is still trying to rock this look into her forties.

    Replies: @whorefinder

  73. @Daniel Chieh
    @Jack D


    This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.
     
    Ah, but your kids will remember this when they are forced to watch it in school to discuss the Bad Old Days.

    Leftists working hard to destroy past, present and future.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Since this is “based on a true story” the movie will become the historical record as much as if it were a documentary film. The movie creates its own Truthiness, which is greater than any actual Truth. The Left accuses Trump of doing this, but it is merely projection – the stuff that they do is 100x worse because no one ever contests it while Trump’s every word is contested.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Jack D

    I have had conversations with lefties where they will on one hand extoll Michael Moore as a great truthteller and then, when I point out his selective edits and how he avoids significant contradictory information, they handwave it away as "documentaries have to have a point of view."

    They literally do not have any sense of objective fact. "Truth" to a lefty is whatever serves the narrative.

    Replies: @benjaminl

  74. @Jack D
    @Daniel Chieh

    Since this is "based on a true story" the movie will become the historical record as much as if it were a documentary film. The movie creates its own Truthiness, which is greater than any actual Truth. The Left accuses Trump of doing this, but it is merely projection - the stuff that they do is 100x worse because no one ever contests it while Trump's every word is contested.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    I have had conversations with lefties where they will on one hand extoll Michael Moore as a great truthteller and then, when I point out his selective edits and how he avoids significant contradictory information, they handwave it away as “documentaries have to have a point of view.”

    They literally do not have any sense of objective fact. “Truth” to a lefty is whatever serves the narrative.

    • Replies: @benjaminl
    @whorefinder

    Michael Moore is interesting: despicable in many ways, yet as a midwestern working-class dropout Gentile prole, he seems to see many things to which elite educated coastal liberals are blind. For example predicting that Trump could win.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/the-thankless-task-of-being-michael-moore.html

    Replies: @whorefinder

  75. @Olorin
    This comment at the NYT gives us a foretaste of what the Dems' 2020 strategy is going to be:

    "One issue I imagine I’ll keep coming back to is the structural bias in our system that gives white, rural voters so much more political power than diverse, urban ones." [quoting Goldberg]

    Keep focused on this single issue of inequality - why 1 American's vote is not worth the same as another's, undermining the #1 premise of our whole system of government.
     

    See, a system isn't truly fair and diverse till whites get only 1/5th of a vote--by Constitutional amendment if we can get it, and by demographics if we can't. And nobody has to register or supply ID or proof of citizenship. And people can vote online as in the queer marriage referendum underway (today? this week?) in Oz.

    That's what the Founding Parental Units like Michael King and Emma Lazarus intended! One click, one vote!

    Till we achieve that one-party nirvana atop the zuckerberg, you can expect lots of spankings from these ladies and their male doppelgangers.

    But I do urge iSteve readers to pop over and see how the NYT corporation and its hired or self-bonded ideological servants are limning this brave new era of the franchise.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Reg Cæsar

    The best part of their logic is that everyone is equally intelligent enough to vote, but getting a photo id for voters is unsurmountable intellectual barrier for some.

  76. @dcthrowback
    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html

    Her husband, Matt Ipcar, is a digital guy for the Dems. They live in Brooklyn (ldo). She was raised in Buffalo and did attend SUNY at Buffalo (affectionately known as Joo-B to the locals).

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Barnard, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    Her husband, Matt Ipcar, is a digital guy for the Dems.

    I thought that was Anthony Weiner’s job.

    • LOL: Daniel H
  77. @Bill
    @dcthrowback

    That was certainly my reaction. I thought Goodell's statement was apt:


    The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture.
     
    This is exactly the function that the NFL performs in American culture. Take almost any two American men at random, put them together in a room, and they will soon be talking about the NFL. In the South and a few other places, college football competes for this distinction. Even there, though, Southerners can talk about the NFL, and if they are talking to non-Southrons, they will talk about the NFL.

    The other thing which is really great about Goodell's statement is that he says that football creates "a sense" of unity. There is, in fact, no unity, and football serves the critically important purpose of helping (white) people pretend that there is unity. It does not create any such unity or manifest an already existing unity.

    Of course, energizing though Trump's performance was, it looks like the Ailes/Atwater strategy directed at the emerging alt-right. Make nearly content-free rhetorical gestures towards your base as you sell them out on substance.

    Replies: @Nico

    Of course, energizing though Trump’s performance was, it looks like the Ailes/Atwater strategy directed at the emerging alt-right. Make nearly content-free rhetorical gestures towards your base as you sell them out on substance.

    The reason I’m not yet blackpilled on Trump is because I’m not disappointed in the non-realization of fantastic expectations I never had. If Trump can shift the Overton window and dismantle these ersatz icons of “unity” that may, just may, be enough. The best thing any of us can do is to keep that in mind and keep a vigilant eye over the next few years. Triumph is still quite a ways off

    • Replies: @AM
    @Nico


    The reason I’m not yet blackpilled on Trump is because I’m not disappointed in the non-realization of fantastic expectations I never had.
     
    Yes, exactly. The blackpillers, ironically, seemed to have expected just short of the 2nd coming.

    Me, I was quite pleased that The Wicked Witch of the West(ern) Civilization did not end up in the Presidency.

    Anybody was a step up, and as a bonus Trump appears to be an intelligent man, quite at home with diplomacy and politics. And he pissed off all the right people. Overton window shifts galore and in the end, it maybe exactly what we need. Trump at best, will only be in charge for another 7 and 1/4 years.

    Replies: @Nico

  78. @Olorin
    This comment at the NYT gives us a foretaste of what the Dems' 2020 strategy is going to be:

    "One issue I imagine I’ll keep coming back to is the structural bias in our system that gives white, rural voters so much more political power than diverse, urban ones." [quoting Goldberg]

    Keep focused on this single issue of inequality - why 1 American's vote is not worth the same as another's, undermining the #1 premise of our whole system of government.
     

    See, a system isn't truly fair and diverse till whites get only 1/5th of a vote--by Constitutional amendment if we can get it, and by demographics if we can't. And nobody has to register or supply ID or proof of citizenship. And people can vote online as in the queer marriage referendum underway (today? this week?) in Oz.

    That's what the Founding Parental Units like Michael King and Emma Lazarus intended! One click, one vote!

    Till we achieve that one-party nirvana atop the zuckerberg, you can expect lots of spankings from these ladies and their male doppelgangers.

    But I do urge iSteve readers to pop over and see how the NYT corporation and its hired or self-bonded ideological servants are limning this brave new era of the franchise.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Reg Cæsar

    See, a system isn’t truly fair and diverse till whites get only 1/5th of a vote

    Revenge for some of them getting 1.6 votes, thanks to the three-fifths rule.

  79. @Jack D
    @eric

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her. She understands that her role in the space program was completely peripheral (whatever she did could be done today by a programmable pocket calculator such as a TI-83 and in minutes instead of days), but the needs of modern propaganda require her to be the retconned black female Stankhov of the space program who single handedly launched us into space.

    In the movie they show her repeatedly running for miles thru the rain in order to use the colored ladies bathroom in a distant building. In real life, she just used the nearest woman's restroom - even the book upon which the movie is based, itself a work of propaganda, admits this. This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @whorefinder, @Barnard

    There’s been a spate of true crime podocasts/documentaries that “prove” the innocence of a convict. I think NPR led the way on that one, and Netflix/Amazon/Hulu have followed suit. Most are extremely selectively edited and/or the only voices are those of the defendant.

    The funny part is these “true crime” works are almost exactly the same as the lowbrow ID network/48 hours-type criminal shows where a case is followed/dramatized from beginning to end and the narrator works hard to sew doubt or at least create tension . NPR/Netflix are just making them catchy with people who think themselves above such plebian fare, with the twist that the convicted was “innocent” and railroaded (most of the ID network fare is just about recreating the crimes in lurid fashion so women. who are the majority of the audience, enjoy the drama).

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @whorefinder

    The pioneer was "Serial" , the story of poor innocent railroaded Adnan Syed who fits the same pattern as all the other "innocent" killers adopted as celebrity pets (except Syed hasn't gotten out yet and so hasn't had a chance to kill again). Since going to prison, Syed now sports a bushy Muslim beard and beanie hat so I think the chances are good that if they ever let him out he will go full Muslim terrorist. Of course the devout Muslim angle must have made him even more attractive to producer Sarah Koenig,

    Since public radio is just a form of show business, the very successful Serial series has spawned numerous imitators.

  80. @hhsiii
    @ic1000

    That's Grigoriadis slamming Goldberg for emphasizing facts contrary to the campus rape woke party line that Grigoriadis downplays.

    Replies: @Johan Schmidt, @ic1000

    I’m afraid there’s too many negatives for me to be able to parse that sentence.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Johan Schmidt

    The Greek chick soft soaped stats that undermined her "oh noz campus rape" book. Goldberg called her on it.

    , @Hhsiii
    @Johan Schmidt

    And btw, there ain't no negatives in that sentence.

  81. @Bubba
    I'm shocked the NYT's didn't hire Haven Monahan since Rolling Stone is up for sale.

    Replies: @Bugg

    Monohan-no way, Irish, not Jewish. Not a chance. Nothing says “diversity” like another NY liberal Jew.It’s like the leftist universal donor of thought. The liberal NY/Northeast Jew perspective can never get enough of an airing.

    As with yesterday’s festivities; if you think Steeler/US Army Captain Villanueva and Packer HaHa Clinton Dix(son of a cop) are bad evil divisive people in the face of wonderful “diversity” your views will be duly aired and indulged in the pages of the Times. And they will wonder how it is possible Trump can win again in 2020.

  82. @Buzz Mohawk
    In our faces. Right in our faces.

    And she's from Slate. When you read the piece, it makes you want to vomit.

    Notice these things and complain, and you are committing a sin. You must accept them.

    Didn't someone once say that the whole point of forcing people to accept the blatantly absurd is to make them feel powerless?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Hhsiii, @PiltdownMan, @Patrick in SC, @Mr. Anon, @whoever

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    @whoever

    Of the last two decades William McGowan wrote both "Coloring the News" and the follow up "Grey Lady Down" both about the decline of journalism and especially the NYT.

    McGowan had a lot of insight, but was wrong that the NYT was not following a defined business model or plan.

    NYT is no longer about making profits through anything remotely recognizable as journalism. Its mission today is to be subsidized by the Elites for installing fear in the shrinking white collar class of possibly being out of line with the (((progressive)))/Globalist agenda.

    Folks don't read the NYT so much to be informed but out of fear of not being able to tow the PC line which shifts day to day and finding oneself out of a job.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  83. @Jack D
    If you read the interview, her views are straight Party Line urban liberal. This may seem shockingly unrepresentative of the nation as a whole but she doesn't write for the nation as a whole, she writes for the New York Times. While the center of mass of its readership is no longer somewhere in the middle of Central Park, it is still overwhelmingly educated urban liberal - she represents the cat ladies of America wherever they may reside. She makes no pretense of being neutral or hiding her undisguised contempt for Trump and the people of the flyover states. The carefully balanced structure of the Constitution means nothing to her if it stands in the way of the cat lady agenda and she would not hesitate to discard it or "reinterpret" it to her liking. It is only useful insofar as it can be used to advance the cat lady agenda.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Charles Pewitt

    Jack D says:

    The carefully balanced structure of the Constitution means nothing to her if it stands in the way of the cat lady agenda and she would not hesitate to discard it or “reinterpret” it to her liking. It is only useful insofar as it can be used to advance the cat lady agenda.

    I say:

    CAT LADY AGENDA?

    It’s too bad that the movie director John Carpenter passed away. He could have made a hell of a horror movie starting with that title. Cat Lady Agenda by John Carpenter — that is scary.

  84. At least she’s honest enough to admit that she believes the most outrageous of Hillary’s most outrageous claims (“I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse.”) And right at the beginning of her gig. Most other NYT columnists dress up like unbiased journalists for Halloween…oh and the rest of the year, too.

  85. Off-topic,

    Monument mania, monetary version:

    Not so funny money: Indigenous artist sets sights on the faces that adorn our currency

    As Canadians across the country debate whether or not historical figures with problematic histories should be stripped from statues, schools or street signs — one Indigenous artist has set his sights on the faces that adorn our currency.

    “I’ve created little vinyl stickers that go on the $5, $10, and $20 bills. I’ve taken historical quotes from Sir Wilfrid Laurier, and John A. Macdonald. I’ve put these quotes in little speech bubbles, and you stick them onto the currency.”

    Soule also created a sticker for the Queen’s bill that says, “I own 82% of the landmass in Canada (Crown land). 0.2% of Crown land has been set aside for the use of Indians.”

    Not So Funny Money started off as a research project on the buffalo – which led him to discovering more about Canada’s first leader – John A. Macdonald.

    Soule said during that project he learned things about Canadian history that he wasn’t taught in school. “It was a systematic slaughtering of the buffalo as a means of starvation, as a means of clearing for industrial cattle, and for settlers and for the railroad. That’s horrific. Those are true facts, those aren’t made-up things.”

    For Soule, choosing who is honoured by being placed on currency is something that shouldn’t be taken lightly.

    “If we’re really going to be honouring people, we should be honouring people who are through-and-through good-hearted, kind, caring people who have done great things — not just for white settlers — but for all of Canada, including Indigenous people.”

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/unreserved/making-taking-and-decolonizing-space-1.4298966/not-so-funny-money-indigenous-artist-sets-sights-on-the-faces-that-adorn-our-currency-1.4300861

  86. 7 out of the 13 current NY Times opinion columnists are Jewish. Goldberg’s addition makes that 8 out of 14.

  87. @Jake
    Diversity to a Marxist in 1960: 1 Stalinist, 1 Trotskyite, 1 Maoist, 1 Fanonista, 1 Castroite, and a half dozen fellow traveling Liberals.

    Diversity to Mainstream American media: 5 Leftist Jews, 3 Leftist blacks, 3 Leftist gays, 2 Leftist Asians, 2 Leftist white Gentiles, 1 Western hating Moslem, and 1 token moderate passed off as a conservative.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Diversity to Mainstream American media: 5 Leftist Jews, 3 Leftist blacks, 3 Leftist gays, 2 Leftist Asians, 2 Leftist white Gentiles, 1 Western hating Moslem, and 1 token moderate passed off as a conservative.

    We are a few years into World War T, and you still can’t spare a thought for the gender non-conformist? For shame!

  88. @ic1000
    Ms. Goldberg may be drearily typical as far as her skin color, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, educational pedigree, place of residence, and career trajectory. However, she brings a fresh new perspective to the NYT, writing insightfully to expose its readership to unfamiliar new ideas. From the piece that Steve links:

    Remember... when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right. Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster, and part of it is to grope toward an understanding of how it happened and how to move forward... I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact.
     
    At the moment, Ms. Goldman is being extended a warm welcome by the Comments section. For instance, 'Grace Thorsen' links Vanity Fair's glowing account of Goldman's recent NYT review of Vanessa Grigoriadis’s new book, Blurred Lines.

    Grigoriadis’s response was fierce: she in turn chastened Goldberg for being the one with an insufficient grasp of the facts. “Not one charge she makes in her review is correct,” Grigoriadis wrote in a blistering, point-by-point rebuttal... Indeed... Goldberg’s piece had [to be] appended with a monster correction... Goldberg confessed that she would “give a kidney and five years of my life” to take back the erroneous assertions.
     
    Welcome aboard, Michelle!

    Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers, @hhsiii, @Olorin, @Rifleman

    Goes along perfectly with the last three NY Times hires –

    Maggie Haberman

    Glenn Thrush

    Brett Stephens.

    All Jewish. All sufficiently anti Trump and anti the Deplorable White Racist Americans who voted for him.

  89. @Daniel Chieh
    @Jack D

    She even calls herself a cat lady in one of her pieces, but she is actually a traitor to cat ladies everywhere: she has a son.

    Replies: @Rifleman

    She even calls herself a cat lady in one of her pieces, but she is actually a traitor to cat ladies everywhere: she has a son.

    Technically not if she gave birth to or adopted (preferably from Haiti or Africa) a black one.

  90. @Jack D
    @eric

    Johnson says, quite truthfully, that she has no idea why they are naming a building for her. She understands that her role in the space program was completely peripheral (whatever she did could be done today by a programmable pocket calculator such as a TI-83 and in minutes instead of days), but the needs of modern propaganda require her to be the retconned black female Stankhov of the space program who single handedly launched us into space.

    In the movie they show her repeatedly running for miles thru the rain in order to use the colored ladies bathroom in a distant building. In real life, she just used the nearest woman's restroom - even the book upon which the movie is based, itself a work of propaganda, admits this. This being an enlightened Federal facility at the sunset of segregation and Johnson being 7/8 white anyway, no one ever said a word to her. The entire movie is filled with amazing agitprop lies like this and no one blinks an eye because it is all for a Good Cause.

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Anonymous, @whorefinder, @Barnard

    The History Vs. Hollywood entry on Hidden Figures was good, almost all the white characters in the movie are either composites or completely made up in order to “represent the unconscious bias and prejudice of the era.”

    http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/hidden-figures/

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Barnard

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) - Mary Jackson's supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program - not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don't seem to run in that particular groove - I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    Replies: @res, @inertial, @utu, @YetAnotherAnon, @Triumph104, @FredR

  91. Anonymous [AKA "MdACdM"] says:
    @Felix M
    In the NYT interview linked to, Ms Goldberg characterised a fourteen year old boy's sexual assault on a five year old girl as "disturbing" and "ambiguous". She found it "disturbing" because folks got upset about the incident. Need one mention it was an inter-racial attack on a little white girl?

    According to Wikipedia, Ms Goldberg recently reviewed a book about college rape. She wrongly said the book ignored relevant government statistics and incorrectly described it's discussion of other statistics. Her comments were formally retracted later. BTW, Ms Goldberg's review appeared in the NYT Review of Books.

    Ms Goldberg should feel right at home at the NYT.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Having a token shabbas goy as a frontman is a tried and tested tactic.

  92. @whorefinder
    @Jack D

    I have had conversations with lefties where they will on one hand extoll Michael Moore as a great truthteller and then, when I point out his selective edits and how he avoids significant contradictory information, they handwave it away as "documentaries have to have a point of view."

    They literally do not have any sense of objective fact. "Truth" to a lefty is whatever serves the narrative.

    Replies: @benjaminl

    Michael Moore is interesting: despicable in many ways, yet as a midwestern working-class dropout Gentile prole, he seems to see many things to which elite educated coastal liberals are blind. For example predicting that Trump could win.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/the-thankless-task-of-being-michael-moore.html

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @benjaminl

    Yeah, I was kind of expecting him to endorse Trump, given that Trump's policies were so pro-union (closed borders, end NAFTA) and anti-foreign war, and since Moore had been so down on Hillary, both throughout the primaries and for decades before (Moore was anti-NAFTA and a lot of other neo-liberal policies that Bill put in in the 1990s).

    Then all of a sudden Moore did an about face and declared Hillary awesome and Trump a threat to the republic. It was weird.

    I really think that in Moore's case that Hillary got something on him and forced him to support her; his entire anti-Trump schpiels seemed personally desperate, as if someone had a gun to his head and he was sweating it badly. I would not be surprised if David Brock has pictures of Moore in some compromising positions---perhaps with some cheese pizza?

    But then again, despite being apparently old school boomer union New Deal Democrat, he's embraced identity politics and blacks and gays as super-oppressed victims.

  93. @whorefinder
    @Jack D

    There's been a spate of true crime podocasts/documentaries that "prove" the innocence of a convict. I think NPR led the way on that one, and Netflix/Amazon/Hulu have followed suit. Most are extremely selectively edited and/or the only voices are those of the defendant.

    The funny part is these "true crime" works are almost exactly the same as the lowbrow ID network/48 hours-type criminal shows where a case is followed/dramatized from beginning to end and the narrator works hard to sew doubt or at least create tension . NPR/Netflix are just making them catchy with people who think themselves above such plebian fare, with the twist that the convicted was "innocent" and railroaded (most of the ID network fare is just about recreating the crimes in lurid fashion so women. who are the majority of the audience, enjoy the drama).

    Replies: @Jack D

    The pioneer was “Serial” , the story of poor innocent railroaded Adnan Syed who fits the same pattern as all the other “innocent” killers adopted as celebrity pets (except Syed hasn’t gotten out yet and so hasn’t had a chance to kill again). Since going to prison, Syed now sports a bushy Muslim beard and beanie hat so I think the chances are good that if they ever let him out he will go full Muslim terrorist. Of course the devout Muslim angle must have made him even more attractive to producer Sarah Koenig,

    Since public radio is just a form of show business, the very successful Serial series has spawned numerous imitators.

  94. @benjaminl
    @whorefinder

    Michael Moore is interesting: despicable in many ways, yet as a midwestern working-class dropout Gentile prole, he seems to see many things to which elite educated coastal liberals are blind. For example predicting that Trump could win.

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/the-thankless-task-of-being-michael-moore.html

    Replies: @whorefinder

    Yeah, I was kind of expecting him to endorse Trump, given that Trump’s policies were so pro-union (closed borders, end NAFTA) and anti-foreign war, and since Moore had been so down on Hillary, both throughout the primaries and for decades before (Moore was anti-NAFTA and a lot of other neo-liberal policies that Bill put in in the 1990s).

    Then all of a sudden Moore did an about face and declared Hillary awesome and Trump a threat to the republic. It was weird.

    I really think that in Moore’s case that Hillary got something on him and forced him to support her; his entire anti-Trump schpiels seemed personally desperate, as if someone had a gun to his head and he was sweating it badly. I would not be surprised if David Brock has pictures of Moore in some compromising positions—perhaps with some cheese pizza?

    But then again, despite being apparently old school boomer union New Deal Democrat, he’s embraced identity politics and blacks and gays as super-oppressed victims.

  95. As one of the greatest TEDx speakers once said:

    “Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny.”
    ~ Sam Hyde

  96. @Cagey Beast
    Whose New York Times is it anyway? What's the New York Times for and why does it matter when it does or says one thing rather than another? It matters to me, I suppose, because the people who take part in pretending to govern my country, Canada, navigate through life by listening to the NYT, directly or indirectly.

    The NYT is expressly and openly a political, civilizational and even racial enemy of mine. This is not my call; they have said so in clear language hundreds of times. They're gleeful when straight, White men like me suffer some setback, no matter how big or small. They're energized by data showing people like me will be relegated to minority status in our own countries. They actually like hearing people like me will go extinct in the more distant future. Why does what the NYT thinks and says matter to me? Because, as I said, our governing classes in North America treat it as their guiding star and the NYT likes it when bad things happen to people like me.

    All that being said, I couldn't care less if one more Jewess is sitting at a keyboard over there. Are we supposed to be watching their staffing decisions closely for signs of glasnost or perestroika? Sorry, I'm not waiting for that to happen.

    Replies: @bartok

    Why does what the NYT thinks and says matter to me? Because, as I said, our governing classes in North America treat it as their guiding star

    Try a slightly different analogy – it’s more tightly coupled than a ‘guiding star’. The Democratic Party is merely the political wing of the Cathedral (NYT + Harvard + Washington/NGOs). h/t Moldbug

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @bartok

    No, I think mine is apt. A guiding star is a distant and trusted marker by which to navigate. The NYT is treated as such by the lower and mid-level Outer Party types out in the provinces of North America. If the NYT tells them Putin is being mean to the gays, these types are out there the next morning raising a rainbow flag in front of the Gopher Creek town hall.

    As for "the Cathedral", that has to be the worst political metaphor of this short century. It's based on a software engineer's faulty understanding of cathedral building and is made ten times worse by Fred Garvin or whatever Moldbug's real name is.

  97. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @27 year old

    If nice guy Jeb had been nominated, none of this bad stuff would be happening. Jeb would never slam woke brothers for obeying their conscience. If only Hillary had won, we’d have made herstory with a president who is presidential.

    Replies: @Bernardista

    Or the ensuing campaign between the two dull candidates would have driven the public into such a deep stupor that the election would have to be cancelled due to lack of interest.

  98. @JimB
    As the progressive nuts like to say: Wow! Just wow!

    Well, I hope the NYT keeps up what it's doing because it just gets more and more conservatives elected. Here's hoping Michelle Goldberg gets to write a column about Trumps next SCOTUS pick before the end of this year.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You mean conservatives like Ryan, McCain and McConnell who are perfectly fine with massive immigration – legal and illegal – and who cower at the hint of being called a racist.

    Yep, a few more of those conservatives and whites will be truly sunk.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Ye of little faith. If Alabamans vote for Judge Moore in tomorrow's senate primary I'll feel partially vindicated. Especially if it triggers a bunch of RINOs to retire.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @3g4me

  99. @Dr. X
    Michelle Goldberg's father was editorial page editor of The Buffalo News. She attended the University of Buffalo as an undergraduate, and in the early 1990s when a pro-life group put up and anti-abortion display (which was vandalized within 24 hours) Goldberg wrote an essay in the student newspaper, The Spectrum, entitled Rant for Choice. It included lines such as "if I die with a coathanger up my c_nt, it will be their fault. If you see them on campus today, spit on them and kick them in the head."

    Of course, the administration did not attempt to sanction her or the paper for advocating violence against conservatives.

    Nice promotion there, I see...

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    “if I die with a coathanger up my c_nt, it will be their fault”

    Talk about a win-win! Can it also be my fault too, please?

  100. @whoever
    @Buzz Mohawk

    https://i.imgur.com/s5SbJ1K.jpg

    Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    Of the last two decades William McGowan wrote both “Coloring the News” and the follow up “Grey Lady Down” both about the decline of journalism and especially the NYT.

    McGowan had a lot of insight, but was wrong that the NYT was not following a defined business model or plan.

    NYT is no longer about making profits through anything remotely recognizable as journalism. Its mission today is to be subsidized by the Elites for installing fear in the shrinking white collar class of possibly being out of line with the (((progressive)))/Globalist agenda.

    Folks don’t read the NYT so much to be informed but out of fear of not being able to tow the PC line which shifts day to day and finding oneself out of a job.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @anonymous-antimarxist


    NYT is no longer about making profits through anything remotely recognizable as journalism. Its mission today is to be subsidized by the Elites for installing fear in the shrinking white collar class of possibly being out of line with the (((progressive)))/Globalist agenda.
     
    Yep, that's what I think too. I think the Legacy Lyin' Press will be propped up one way or another, underhandedly by the Feral government or via support from our elites via their other, profitable enterprises. It's not just about the money now; these businesses are "too duplicitous to fail".

    I realize Steve, that you get lots of material to illustrate the sickness of our elites, along with their presstitutes, but it's be better for most of us to just ignore these cnrtl-left outlets along with the NFL and all the rest of the TV. It's just rot, anymore, and the less you remain in contact with it, and the more you get outside, the better you will feel (until they come for us, because not enough people have been warned ... so, yeah, pro and con there.)
  101. @hhsiii
    @ic1000

    That's Grigoriadis slamming Goldberg for emphasizing facts contrary to the campus rape woke party line that Grigoriadis downplays.

    Replies: @Johan Schmidt, @ic1000

    > That’s Grigoriadis slamming Goldberg for emphasizing facts contrary to the campus rape woke party line that Grigoriadis downplays.

    Scanning Goldberg’s review, both she and Grigoriadis seem to be on the same side. Good catch, Grigoriadis is the more anti-male of the two.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @ic1000

    Yeah, damning with faint praise but a slight difference.

  102. @Cagey Beast
    @Buzz Mohawk

    We need to stop acting like the NYT is one of our institutions, one of the pillars of our political culture and that we're supposed to be watching it closely for signs it's starting to bend our way. It's just a bunch of petty, selfish and malicious people who managed to land a sweet gig. They only have power when people give them that power. They only matter because other people think they matter. They're not even good at their core tasks of providing, honest and pertinent news and disinterested analysis.

    They're not our clergy, nobility or gentry; they're just some Jews n' friends with keyboards and a bad attitude towards the rest of us. Why do I mention their Jewishness? Simply because they themselves never shut up about it and never have for as long as I can remember.

    Replies: @Daniel H

    Within 5 years, the NY Times will survive to the extent that Carlos Slim (or some other billionaire patron) finds it useful. The Times doesn’t matter anymore, except to laugh at.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Daniel H

    It matters to a hell of a lot of people with the big and small jobs in our crappy, hostile, degenerate and degenerated managerial class. Big and small policymakers care what the NYT says because they'd be lost without it.

  103. @dcthrowback
    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html

    Her husband, Matt Ipcar, is a digital guy for the Dems. They live in Brooklyn (ldo). She was raised in Buffalo and did attend SUNY at Buffalo (affectionately known as Joo-B to the locals).

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Barnard, @Reg Cæsar, @AnotherDad

    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html

    Despite what I think about this hire, this is actually–unintentionally in some respects–a reasonably decent article. In a couple of different ways.

    The first thing that struck me is that she apparently as a college educated young woman did not understand this very basic human idea that children are our immortality. That they are the part of us that lives on after we are gone and continue our family, our race and our civilization into the future. Children are the way we “cheat death”.

    Heck, this is something–not dwelling on the “death” part–that I would talk about to the scouts during my time as scoutmaster, often using the “passing the baton” analogy. That the adult leaders were here passing down Scouting to them to help them be the future leaders of our nation and Western civilization after we were gone. And in turn that older scouts were also “passing the baton” of scouting–mentoring, teaching skills–so they would be leading our troop in the years to come. Not exactly rocket science stuff.

    But here’s this obviously smart young woman who fancies herself some sort of “intellectual” with the “things to say” to the extent she’s a columnist and author of a couple books … and she didn’t seem to grasp this most fundamental aspect of human existence–we all die, but through our children, our families, our race and civilization we live on.

    Goldberg apparently needed to go to Israel to figure this out. I can’t help thinking that seeing actually Jewish people concerned about death and their family’s continuance in a place that takes the survival of the Jewish race very seriously … was the prompt she needed to understand basic reality. Conversely Jewish alienation from Gentile society seems to me to account for a good bit of the anti-traditional, anti-natal, anti-white attitudes Jewish writers are continually propagating. They just don’t have a visceral connection to the surrounding Gentiles wanting to preserve their family, culture, nation.
    ~

    The 2nd thing that struck me was how incredibly–and apparently unself-consciously–selfish and self-absorbed she was. Oh, i’m flying to London, going out and getting sloshed, then it’s off to Thailand or Israel or somewhere. BFD. Hey, I like travelling. I’m glad I’ve had the chance to do some and hope to do more in retirement. But compared to my kids? If I never got to leave the USofA but had my kids, healthy and doing well–i’m great! And heck, did I really need to actually travel to say India to determine it was like … India. We have these things called books! Now we even have film. And now the Internet! It’s not like world travel is required for an intelligent person to know about the world.
    ~

    Finally–on the intentional side–I thought Goldberg’s description of her bonding with baby boy was spot on. The joy, the longing, the all encompassing nature of it, the way her life “flipped” and her career and all the work concerns became the annoying intrusion into her private mommy world.

    I’ve–obviously–never experience the full female hormonal side of it, though I know how powerful it was for me as a dad. Of course, as a dad I couldn’t relax on career–in fact, I had to dig in and push harder to make sure I was a success and there would be bread on the table. But I know about the emotional pull for me. And seen it–hormones full on–in my wife. Goldberg to her credit does a credible job describing her experience.

    • Agree: Barnard
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    Despite what I think about this hire, this is actually–unintentionally in some respects–a reasonably decent article.
     
    People like Goldberg are not stupid, they are just very misguided. The goal of American white nationalists should be (IMHO) to get people like Goldberg (like Stephen Miller) playing for Team America and not to expel them. WNs make the same mistake with Jews that Hillary made with blue collar whites - you don't win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad

    Another kick-ass comment, Another Dad!

    I never was against having kids and nearly as selfish as Mrs. Goldberg (per your readings), but still, until having a kid, I could not understand the big picture as you describe.

    However, that brings us to the root of the problem - back in the 1960's young people were told to not trust anyone over 30, meaning they would not take advice, about biological clocks and just the happiness in having a family, and anything else. For thousands of years before, this advice was wisely handed down and accepted, but not anymore. Lots of people, career-women especially, have learned the hard-way - not the kind of lesson you can say "lesson learned" about, cause what's the point by then?

    Additionally, during the same error, even the parents were warning of overpopulation, so some probably took this to heart. I'm not knocking the warnings, but it'd have worked out much better if someone warned the 3rd world and we didn't implement a socialist welfare state about that same time, which promptly encouraged breeding in the irresponsible, poor, and generally-stupid "communities".

  104. @Barnard
    @Jack D

    The History Vs. Hollywood entry on Hidden Figures was good, almost all the white characters in the movie are either composites or completely made up in order to "represent the unconscious bias and prejudice of the era."


    http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/hidden-figures/

    Replies: @Jack D

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) – Mary Jackson’s supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program – not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don’t seem to run in that particular groove – I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    • Replies: @res
    @Jack D


    Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?
     
    That sounds plausible to me. Is there any issue with Jews looking down on hands-on work? I see that bias in some groups and I think it tends to result in less inclination towards the more concrete side of engineering. Even if that side of engineering is considered white collar, I think it benefits from a familiarity with physical reality (e.g. limits which must be respected).

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @inertial
    @Jack D

    There are plenty of prominent Jews in the airspace design and engineering on the Russian side. To list some of the best known: Mikhail Gurevich of the MiG airplanes, Mikhail Mil the Chief Designer of the Mil helicopters, Boris Chertok the Deputy Chief Designer of the Soviet space program.

    It started early too, with this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsevolod_Abramovich .

    A grandson of a famous Yiddish writer. Chief test pilot of the Wright brothers' German subsidiary. Built his airplane based on Wrights' design but with his own modifications (and named it after himself,) flew this plane to St. Petersburg, and used it to set several records. All this in a space of only a couple of years, as he was killed in a crash in 1913.

    , @utu
    @Jack D

    Jews seem strangely absent from the space program

    What about the moon landing? I am thinking of Stanley Kubrick.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    Marcel Dassault was a pretty good Jewish aeronautical engineer (he converted to Catholicism), and the various Mysteres and Mirages right up to today's Rafale are pretty good aircraft.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Triumph104
    @Jack D

    The world's first transatlantic passenger was a Jewish man named Charles A. Levine. His daughter gave an interesting account of her relationship with him.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1141380

    , @FredR
    @Jack D

    My Jewish engineer grandfather helped design space capsules for NASA

  105. Michelle: Remember a few weeks before the election, when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?”

    I seem to remember her voting in favor of attacking Iraq when she had the opportunity to mobilize opposition, but I am getting old and my memory is failing, so perhaps it was a different female senator with a safe Democratic Party seat in New York state who was so easily fooled by George W. Bush. (That is why I would never vote for her even if she was running against Adolf Hitler himself.)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason


    (That is why I would never vote for her even if she was running against Adolf Hitler himself)
     
    Me neither - I'd vote for the Libertarian. Adolf and the Hildabeast would probably split the evil bloc, the stupid would vote for the Communist candidate, and, viola, we'd finally have our guy ... the Commie would win. (I always seem to underestimate the stupid vote.)
  106. @Barnard

    Gail: Maybe we can plan a joint excursion to Wyoming. I want to see the folks whose senate vote counts for 67 Californians. My experience with other thinly populated states, however, suggests that they will tell me it’s an excellent plan.

    Michelle: I’m sure they will! One issue I imagine I’ll keep coming back to is the structural bias in our system that gives white, rural voters so much more political power than diverse, urban ones.
     
    They probably will send her to Jackson Hole to report on the evil whites of flyover country. She can really get a feel for what life is like in Wyoming at $500 a night resort and spa. I assume the non white refugees who have been distributed to rural America to work in the hospitality industry don't count as much as the ones in our glorious diverse urban areas.

    Replies: @Anonymous


    It’s not enough that they brainwash their enemies into kissing their ass while they destroying everything they value.

    Their non-enemy enemies must be demo-graphically/-cratically destroyed too.

    This is a special kind of hubristic evil.

  107. @anonymouslee
    "With George W. Bush you had this perfectly normal guy whose tenure got devoured by a war. "

    I love this new meme that Donald Trump is literally Hitler while George W. Bush is a nice guy they happened to vote against on the basis of polite disagreement but whose presidency they were perfectly willing to accept and respect. George W. Bush was "normal" while it's evil to "normalize" Donald Trump.

    We're now in a crisis of democracy this country has never before encountered, a terrifying new reality one couldn't imagine just a few years ago.

    Unbelievable. Presumably people too young to remember the George W. Bush era will take them at their word...

    Replies: @MarcB., @Redman

    “Unbelievable. Presumably people too young to remember the George W. Bush era will take them at their word…”

    They started this amnesia way back in 2008, during the emergence of the Tea Party movement. All of a sudden RINO’s and NeoCon’s (who had month’s earlier been the root of all evil) instantly became their worthy, reasonable and loyal opposition, while the Tea Partiers represented the modern face of the dangerous and extreme John Birch Society.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @MarcB.

    Remember the signs "Bush = Hitler" and "Bushitler"?

    Now he's just a nice guy who somehow found himself invading Iraq.

    Replies: @Anonym

  108. @AnotherDad
    @dcthrowback


    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html
     

    Despite what I think about this hire, this is actually--unintentionally in some respects--a reasonably decent article. In a couple of different ways.

    The first thing that struck me is that she apparently as a college educated young woman did not understand this very basic human idea that children are our immortality. That they are the part of us that lives on after we are gone and continue our family, our race and our civilization into the future. Children are the way we "cheat death".

    Heck, this is something--not dwelling on the "death" part--that I would talk about to the scouts during my time as scoutmaster, often using the "passing the baton" analogy. That the adult leaders were here passing down Scouting to them to help them be the future leaders of our nation and Western civilization after we were gone. And in turn that older scouts were also "passing the baton" of scouting--mentoring, teaching skills--so they would be leading our troop in the years to come. Not exactly rocket science stuff.

    But here's this obviously smart young woman who fancies herself some sort of "intellectual" with the "things to say" to the extent she's a columnist and author of a couple books ... and she didn't seem to grasp this most fundamental aspect of human existence--we all die, but through our children, our families, our race and civilization we live on.

    Goldberg apparently needed to go to Israel to figure this out. I can't help thinking that seeing actually Jewish people concerned about death and their family's continuance in a place that takes the survival of the Jewish race very seriously ... was the prompt she needed to understand basic reality. Conversely Jewish alienation from Gentile society seems to me to account for a good bit of the anti-traditional, anti-natal, anti-white attitudes Jewish writers are continually propagating. They just don't have a visceral connection to the surrounding Gentiles wanting to preserve their family, culture, nation.
    ~

    The 2nd thing that struck me was how incredibly--and apparently unself-consciously--selfish and self-absorbed she was. Oh, i'm flying to London, going out and getting sloshed, then it's off to Thailand or Israel or somewhere. BFD. Hey, I like travelling. I'm glad I've had the chance to do some and hope to do more in retirement. But compared to my kids? If I never got to leave the USofA but had my kids, healthy and doing well--i'm great! And heck, did I really need to actually travel to say India to determine it was like ... India. We have these things called books! Now we even have film. And now the Internet! It's not like world travel is required for an intelligent person to know about the world.
    ~

    Finally--on the intentional side--I thought Goldberg's description of her bonding with baby boy was spot on. The joy, the longing, the all encompassing nature of it, the way her life "flipped" and her career and all the work concerns became the annoying intrusion into her private mommy world.

    I've--obviously--never experience the full female hormonal side of it, though I know how powerful it was for me as a dad. Of course, as a dad I couldn't relax on career--in fact, I had to dig in and push harder to make sure I was a success and there would be bread on the table. But I know about the emotional pull for me. And seen it--hormones full on--in my wife. Goldberg to her credit does a credible job describing her experience.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Achmed E. Newman

    Despite what I think about this hire, this is actually–unintentionally in some respects–a reasonably decent article.

    People like Goldberg are not stupid, they are just very misguided. The goal of American white nationalists should be (IMHO) to get people like Goldberg (like Stephen Miller) playing for Team America and not to expel them. WNs make the same mistake with Jews that Hillary made with blue collar whites – you don’t win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    Because that's worked so well so far.

    https://i.imgur.com/p0Sz95x.png

  109. @Autochthon

    Twin Falls, Idaho [is] a fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee [sic] resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee [sic] boys — they were seven, ten and fourteen — and a white five-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly.
     
    This woman is willfully disingenuous to write such nonsense. This bitch thinks it "got ugly?" Let's explore just how ugly it got*:

    Three boys involved in a June assault on a five-year-old girl at the Fawnbrook Apartments in Twin Falls pleaded guilty...to felonies.

    “We agreed to the plea bargains. That by no means implies my clients were, or are, fully satisfied with the outcome of these cases or the prosecuting attorney,” Mark Guerry, the attorney representing the victim’s family. “After ten months their right to some form of justice was long overdue.... They were prepared to testify at a trial or enter into to plea agreements months ago. More importantly, no convictions or mere words in statements could ever mitigate the unrelenting trauma and grief their little daughter now suffers as a result of this vicious sexual assault.” Guerry in April made clear his clients, though they approved the plea agreements, already weren’t satisfied with the boys’ punishments nor with the prosecution’s approach. Tuesday, he said the family of the girl was “especially disappointed with the public conduct of [the prosecutor], who over the past year advocated in the media on behalf of these three sex offenders repeatedly, rather than focus on zealous representation of the victim as was his obligation.”

    Police and prosecutors ... characterized the incident as a sexual assault. The boys were charged not long after the ... incident, and later that month their families were evicted from the apartment complex.... The youngest boy is from Iraq and the two older boys, who are brothers, are from Eritrea.

    One boy pleaded guilty to felony exploitation of a child and misdemeanor battery. A second boy pleaded guilty of aiding and abetting felony lewd conduct and aiding and abetting misdemonear battery. The third boy pleaded guilty to a charge of accessory to the commission of a felony.
     
    Let's be very clear what the jargon involved means in plain English:

    Exploitation of Child"Sexually exploitative material" means any ... photograph ... which shows a child ... being used for explicit sexual conduct....

    A person commits sexual exploitation of a child if he knowingly and willfully: [C]auses, induces, or permits a child to engage in, or be used for, any explicit sexual conduct for the purpose of producing or making sexually exploitative material....

    Lewd Conduct: Any person who shall commit any lewd or lascivious act or acts upon or with the body or any part or member thereof of a minor child under the age of sixteen years, including but not limited to, genital-genital contact, oral-genital contact, anal-genital contact, oral-anal contact, manual-anal contact, or manual-genital contact ... when any of such acts are done with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust or passions or sexual desires of such person ... shall be guilty of a felony and shall be imprisoned in the state prison for a term of not more than life.

    Idaho Code §§ 18-1507 – 1508 (2016)
     
    Rape is a very specific crime; in most jurisdictions it is explicitly limited to forced penetration of a vagina by a penis. The repeated, smug protestations that there was "no rape" in the case at hand and that the whole thing was blow out of proportion are akin to Mr. Clinton's claims he "did not have sex" with Miss Lewinsky. We all know damn good and well what happened here: one of these monsters used his hands to grope a little girl's genitals; possibly, he placed his penis in her mouth. Another took photographs. The third stood watch. Detailed, accurate reports, including interviews with the elderly woman to whom the victim first came for consolation, who heard the victims explanation, make these facts clear. The convictions (a plea of guilty is a conviction!) confirm them.

    A mentally disabled child of five was sexually violated by a fourteen-year-old. I remember being fourteen. Like nearly all fourteen-year-old-males, I was constantly horny and raging for sex. I had involuntary erections if the wind blew. I'd have considered amputating an arm for five minutes with one of the pretty cheerleaders in my high school. Never once did the idea of gratifying myself with a five-year-old cross my mind. These animals, and all of their defenders and enablers, would be hung from a tree if the U.S.A. still existed.

    *The Idaho Statesman is now a superior paper to The New York Times despite the gross difference in resources favouring the latter.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    The repeated, smug protestations that there was “no rape” in the case at hand and that the whole thing was blow out of proportion are akin to Mr. Clinton’s claims he “did not have sex” with Miss Lewinsky.

    As far as I understand Clinton didn’t. He got a blow job or possibly a hand job, or possibly a mixture from her a time or two, and poked her privates with a cigar (very poor use of a good smoke) but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.

    Rape is harder to pin down, because it is a legal term as well as a vernacular term, and some states don’t use the word rape at all, preferring something like “sexual battery in the third degree”.

    There is a general point to be made that in sexual assault cases, people are so uncomfortable talking about the crime that what the perpetrator did to the victim is hardly ever accurately described in journalistic accounts for public consumption, and while one can see very well why this is the case, it leads to people using their imaginations a great deal to fill in the blanks.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason


    but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.
     
    That's not the general sense of the word, that's a very NARROW sense of the word. When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman" he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.

    Sex has never been defined, either in law or popular discourse as " only that which can get you pregnant".

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Jonathan Mason, @Autochthon, @Anonym

  110. The African animals parachuted into Twin Falls I’d are there to work in the giant Chobani yogurt factory. The wages are just low enough so the workers qualify for food stamps, medi caid, free school breakfast, lunch and after school snack, government housing, importation of the grandparents to overwhelm senior citizen service and get SSI.

    Chobani yogurt is owned by a Turk. The Obamas, via Michelle’s health food school
    lunches thing gave Chobani a multi million dollar contract to provide his Yogurt to the various federal food programs including the huge school lunch programs.
    If you want to get revenge on the company that brought the raping animals to Twin Falls don’t buy Chobani yogurt. Tell your friends relatives and everyone you know not to but Chobani yogurt.

    Own stock on a supermarket chain? Go to a stock holders meeting and object to the chains stocking chobani yogurt. If you get the endless stockholders brochures from the supermarket send letters asking for a boycott of Chobani.

    If you are a stock broker or know any tell them not to buy Stock in markets that sell chobani.

    The reason the DA’s office was so reluctant to move forward was the vast amount of money the Feds poured into the area to establish chobani and their African Arab Muslim animal work force.
    FYI the majority of child molesters are children themselves. They cause endless damage to their victims. It’s usually older children imposing their perversions on much younger and smaller children.

  111. @whorefinder
    Goldberg is a Koolaid drinking programmed lefty. When Obama was first elected, she was proclaiming that his autobiographies were truly "great" literature.

    Although I think Ann Althouse is a turd, I did like how Althouse took Goldberg to task for her blind hero worship and double standard (because Goldberg was trashing Sarah Palin's then book). Spanked her like a teacher dressing down a student, or a mother dressing down a bad daughter. It was a great Blogginheads TV video,:

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/06/lets-compare-2-men-and-2-women-in-same.html

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/11/apartment-was-small-with-slanting.html

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2009/11/finally-bloggingheads-with-me-and.html

    Replies: @Lucius Somesuch

    I’ve never forgotten that one! Althouse made Michelle Goldberg cry.

    And what’s with the Enid Coleslaw hairdo? I remember someone back then cracking about Michelle’s “finishing school head tilt pose” in front of the camera. This talentless Jewish teenybopper is still trying to rock this look into her forties.

    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Lucius Somesuch

    Although all women have problems with getting older and losing their looks, Michelle Goldberg seems more bothered than most about her youthfulness fading, which is why her pictures seem so cloying.

    It's possibly because amongst her peers---i.e. female lefty political print reporters/commentators---Goldberg was near the top of the heap in terms of looks when she was young. Goldberg was no beauty, but she had a cute Jewish reporter in her 20's look going on. It was probably very nice for her to be able to go from wallflower to top of the heap when Goldberg left a normal gathering and went into a newsroom or gathering of journalists, like how plain girls like to cosplay at comic conventions just to feel like the prettiest girl in the world for a few days as all the thirsty nerds stare at them.

    And Goldberg he probably more than a little suspects it was her looks that got her this far. So losing them must scare her on some level that her career will nosedive.

    She's gone "cute Jewish girl reporter in her 20s" to middle aged Jewish harranguer. Not a good trajectory.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street

  112. New York Times Hires Extremely Diverse New Columnist

    Geez, they couldn’t get a whiny Asian woman to wag her finger at us deplorables?

    I realize the Jews have slapped an Asian quota on the Ivy Leagues–at pretty much the same level as the infamous quotacaust Jewish quota. But still there’s a plethora of Asian Ivy League grads. And yeah, i know Asians are more prone to “value creation” activities–as our local Asian supremacists continually reminds us–than Jews. But still … we’re talking about girls here–not big value creators–and asking her to whine about evil white men. I think there’s a bunch of Asian girls out there–white boyfriend dumped them, etc. etc.–who could get the job done. Where is the diversity?

    • Replies: @DFH
    @AnotherDad

    The primary target of Asian women is white women, rather than white men

    , @Steve Sailer
    @AnotherDad

    "Jews seem strangely absent from the space program"

    The space program was aimed to boost the South: Houston, Huntsville, AL, Cape Canaveral. LBJ as a Senator from Texas and Senate Majority Leader played a big role in getting Houston the central HQ.

    Besides the Germans, Canadian engineers played a sizable role at NASA after the cancellation of the Canadian Aero superjet.

    A lot of WWII high tech spending had been in places like New York and Boston, but other people learned from it and lobbied for their locations during the Cold War. For example, Fred Terman had spent WWII at Harvard (I think) and swore that his Stanford would get a much bigger cut out of the next war.

    Replies: @whorefinder

  113. @AnotherDad

    New York Times Hires Extremely Diverse New Columnist
     
    Geez, they couldn't get a whiny Asian woman to wag her finger at us deplorables?

    I realize the Jews have slapped an Asian quota on the Ivy Leagues--at pretty much the same level as the infamous quotacaust Jewish quota. But still there's a plethora of Asian Ivy League grads. And yeah, i know Asians are more prone to "value creation" activities--as our local Asian supremacists continually reminds us--than Jews. But still ... we're talking about girls here--not big value creators--and asking her to whine about evil white men. I think there's a bunch of Asian girls out there--white boyfriend dumped them, etc. etc.--who could get the job done. Where is the diversity?

    Replies: @DFH, @Steve Sailer

    The primary target of Asian women is white women, rather than white men

    • Agree: whoever
  114. @Jonathan Mason
    @Autochthon


    The repeated, smug protestations that there was “no rape” in the case at hand and that the whole thing was blow out of proportion are akin to Mr. Clinton’s claims he “did not have sex” with Miss Lewinsky.
     
    As far as I understand Clinton didn't. He got a blow job or possibly a hand job, or possibly a mixture from her a time or two, and poked her privates with a cigar (very poor use of a good smoke) but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.

    Rape is harder to pin down, because it is a legal term as well as a vernacular term, and some states don't use the word rape at all, preferring something like "sexual battery in the third degree".

    There is a general point to be made that in sexual assault cases, people are so uncomfortable talking about the crime that what the perpetrator did to the victim is hardly ever accurately described in journalistic accounts for public consumption, and while one can see very well why this is the case, it leads to people using their imaginations a great deal to fill in the blanks.

    Replies: @Jack D

    but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.

    That’s not the general sense of the word, that’s a very NARROW sense of the word. When Clinton said “I did not have sex with that woman” he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.

    Sex has never been defined, either in law or popular discourse as ” only that which can get you pregnant”.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    @Jack D

    The upside of this definition is that all gays are pure and virgin.

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D


    When Clinton said “I did not have sex with that woman” he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.
     
    I am sure he intended to mislead, but among heterosexual people who have sex, the phrase 'have sex' does usually refer to having vaginal intercourse. It is theoretically possible that Ms. Lewinsky could have done all that has been described, and yet remained technically a virgin, even though it is unlikely she was saving herself for Mr. Right. Anyway, denying 'having sex' with her was the gentlemanly thing to do under the circumstances, and better than saying "I tried to have sex with her, but only made it to third base" which would have been considered unbecoming of a POTUS at that date (though maybe not by current standards).

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Autochthon
    @Jack D

    Precisely my point in alluding to Clinton’s mendacity; thank you.

    As any intimation that the legal terminology obfuscates matters and encourages wild speculation, Lee Stranahan’s interview with the victim’s father, who saw the monsters’ sick movie, makes it clear what happened to anyone who finds him credible:


    Q: So you watched thirty seconds of the video and it was clear to you from the thirty seconds that you saw what was – thirty seconds was enough for you to see what was going on?

    A: Thirty seconds showed them in the laundry room, they pulled my daughter around, pushed her up against the wall, pulled her pants off, he dropped his pants, he was trying to get her from behind, you know, they only … no, for the boy that was trying to do it he was, you know, he was only seven to nine years old, so not a lot of… he didn’t know what he was really doing, as you’d expect.

    The victim tried to escape her refugee tormentors as they danced around her and laughed at her, the father said. “My daughter didn’t really, was trying to fight him a little bit,” he continued. “[S]he finally got away, pulled her pants up, ran around to the side of a corner, ran inside a washing machine, hunched down, shaking in fear, while he danced around with his pants down, laughing at her, pointing at her, with all the other boys – you could hear them in the background, doing the same thing – and that’s all I watched.”

    The video continued for another couple minutes, he said, but could not bring himself to watch it. “I know there was a lot more that happened that was told to me by the prosecutor who had watched the video,” he said. “More after that, you know, he went back to her, tried doing the front, he, um… oral sex with, you know, oral with her, he shoved it in her mouth,” which is considered rape, the victim’s mother added as he spoke. “He peed all over her in her mouth, all over her body, her face, head ... totally defiled her.”

    After the attack, the Muslim refugee families of the boys collectively swarmed their victim’s apartment and urged the parents not to call police after the attack, he said.
     
    Always remember that plea bargains nearly always involve admission to lesser, included offence(s) than the convict has in fact committed: in contractual terms, the consideration for the certain conviction (via a plea of “guilty”) is the escape from the possible (or even probable) conviction at trial of the greater offence(s).

    This beautiful child’s father exercised remarkable restraint under the circumstances. Me? I probably would have done as Jay Maynor did, but only after an extended conversation in the back of a box truck in the wilderness, which would begin with a pair of pliers and something to do with the assailants’ fingernails....

    As it is, these despicable pieces of shit will doubtless be off to college with a scholarship witin ten years.

    Contemptible.
    , @Anonym
    @Jack D

    https://youtu.be/KiIP_KDQmXs

    He emphasizes each word, and maybe 'sexual' a bit more than the others. The only possible reproductive outcomes of the events of that day would have been asexual, e.g. if Bill were to parthogenetically sprout little Clintons on his arm, or something of that nature.

  115. @Jim Christian
    "Part of the job of a columnist, as I see it, is to bear witness to a nearly inconceivable civic disaster", and
    "Yeah, I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact."

    Oh yeah, she's diverse. She's also a great author: "Goldberg's first book, Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism (2006), was a finalist for the 2007 New York Public Library's Helen Bernstein Book Award for Excellence in Journalism."

    This is held up as qualification. Yeah, for a Jewish and Liberal meat grinder.

    It's clear she isn't a hateful White, surely a Jewish-and-minority-woman: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Michelle_Goldberg_at_2012_Brooklyn_Book_Festival_panel_%288024128755%29.jpg/440px-Michelle_Goldberg_at_2012_Brooklyn_Book_Festival_panel_%288024128755%29.jpg

    She's the template for feminist, liberal and Jewish privilege that hangs over the media centers and big cities like a persistent rash. There is no group Whiter, richer and more privileged. And yet, she claims virtue somehow. Oh, the Poland Springs, isn't that baaaaaaad for the environment?

    Replies: @bored identity

    bored identity believes that this Well-Chosen Diversifier should be filed under :

    Every.Single.Fifth.Columnist.

  116. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @JimB

    You mean conservatives like Ryan, McCain and McConnell who are perfectly fine with massive immigration - legal and illegal - and who cower at the hint of being called a racist.

    Yep, a few more of those conservatives and whites will be truly sunk.

    Replies: @JimB

    Ye of little faith. If Alabamans vote for Judge Moore in tomorrow’s senate primary I’ll feel partially vindicated. Especially if it triggers a bunch of RINOs to retire.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @JimB

    Don't feel vindicated if Moore wins (I don't think he will). Just because he isn't establishment doesn't mean he's all right. He's a total nutter who will probably somehow manage to derail Trump's agenda in Congress -will pull stunts like Ted Cruz did to shut down gov't, only worse and more pointless/distracting. We're talking a guy who is a failed Australian karate star, who thought he'd be offed by his own platoon in Vietnam. He's been around a long time in Alabama, he makes his living being a perpetual candidate.

    Replies: @JimB

    , @3g4me
    @JimB

    @ 114 JimB: "If Alabamans vote for Judge Moore in tomorrow’s senate primary I’ll feel partially vindicated."

    Yeah, because we're so voting our way out of this. 'Murrica, f*&k yeah.

  117. @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason


    but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.
     
    That's not the general sense of the word, that's a very NARROW sense of the word. When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman" he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.

    Sex has never been defined, either in law or popular discourse as " only that which can get you pregnant".

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Jonathan Mason, @Autochthon, @Anonym

    The upside of this definition is that all gays are pure and virgin.

  118. @Jack D
    @Barnard

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) - Mary Jackson's supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program - not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don't seem to run in that particular groove - I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    Replies: @res, @inertial, @utu, @YetAnotherAnon, @Triumph104, @FredR

    Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    That sounds plausible to me. Is there any issue with Jews looking down on hands-on work? I see that bias in some groups and I think it tends to result in less inclination towards the more concrete side of engineering. Even if that side of engineering is considered white collar, I think it benefits from a familiarity with physical reality (e.g. limits which must be respected).

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @res

    While Jews in Europe didn't usually have a farm background like Henry Ford, which is very conducive to tinkering, there was actually a long Jewish tradition of Jews as skilled craftsmen who worked with their hands - goldsmiths, blacksmiths, tailors, embroiderers, shoemakers, etc. Jews also did brute manual labor as water carriers (no plumbing so water would get carried with two buckets and a pole) and "traegers" who were sort of human pack mules, as well as teamsters, etc. Most Jews did not just sit around all day and discuss the Talmud because they would have starved.

  119. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    Despite what I think about this hire, this is actually–unintentionally in some respects–a reasonably decent article.
     
    People like Goldberg are not stupid, they are just very misguided. The goal of American white nationalists should be (IMHO) to get people like Goldberg (like Stephen Miller) playing for Team America and not to expel them. WNs make the same mistake with Jews that Hillary made with blue collar whites - you don't win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Because that’s worked so well so far.

  120. @Neoconned
    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/24/devastation_from_hurricane_maria_set_puerto_rico_back_nearly_20_to_30_years.html

    Steve large parts of P Rico are going w/o power for "6 mnths to a yr"....

    Expect large numbers of PRs to start showing up to a city near u soon

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Steve Sailer, @Jus' Sayin'..., @FLgeezer

    The Democrats want the PRs to move to purple Florida so they can vote it blue.

  121. @Neoconned
    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/24/devastation_from_hurricane_maria_set_puerto_rico_back_nearly_20_to_30_years.html

    Steve large parts of P Rico are going w/o power for "6 mnths to a yr"....

    Expect large numbers of PRs to start showing up to a city near u soon

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Steve Sailer, @Jus' Sayin'..., @FLgeezer

    PR, Haiti, Dominican Republic, etc. are more of an east coast problem. Mexico and Central America are more of a west coast, southwest, and midwest problem.

  122. @res
    @Jack D


    Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?
     
    That sounds plausible to me. Is there any issue with Jews looking down on hands-on work? I see that bias in some groups and I think it tends to result in less inclination towards the more concrete side of engineering. Even if that side of engineering is considered white collar, I think it benefits from a familiarity with physical reality (e.g. limits which must be respected).

    Replies: @Jack D

    While Jews in Europe didn’t usually have a farm background like Henry Ford, which is very conducive to tinkering, there was actually a long Jewish tradition of Jews as skilled craftsmen who worked with their hands – goldsmiths, blacksmiths, tailors, embroiderers, shoemakers, etc. Jews also did brute manual labor as water carriers (no plumbing so water would get carried with two buckets and a pole) and “traegers” who were sort of human pack mules, as well as teamsters, etc. Most Jews did not just sit around all day and discuss the Talmud because they would have starved.

  123. @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason


    but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.
     
    That's not the general sense of the word, that's a very NARROW sense of the word. When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman" he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.

    Sex has never been defined, either in law or popular discourse as " only that which can get you pregnant".

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Jonathan Mason, @Autochthon, @Anonym

    When Clinton said “I did not have sex with that woman” he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.

    I am sure he intended to mislead, but among heterosexual people who have sex, the phrase ‘have sex’ does usually refer to having vaginal intercourse. It is theoretically possible that Ms. Lewinsky could have done all that has been described, and yet remained technically a virgin, even though it is unlikely she was saving herself for Mr. Right. Anyway, denying ‘having sex’ with her was the gentlemanly thing to do under the circumstances, and better than saying “I tried to have sex with her, but only made it to third base” which would have been considered unbecoming of a POTUS at that date (though maybe not by current standards).

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason


    It is theoretically possible that Ms. Lewinsky could have done all that has been described, and yet remained technically a virgin, even though it is unlikely she was saving herself for Mr. Right. Anyway, denying ‘having sex’ with her was the gentlemanly thing to do under the circumstances, ...
     
    I think you lost your argument long ago on this one, John. "Saving herself for Mr. Right??! Haha, who would that be, George Soros? Beelzebubba himself? Also, Bill Clinton was far gone from gentlemanly way back in his Mena, Arkansas days. How did the cigar story help him become seen as a gentleman again? Oh, was Miss Lewinski saving herself for something more upscale, like a Cuban?*
    .
    .
    .

    * I'm talking cigars here, not real Cubans.
  124. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/911270631324491778

    Sylvie Kauffmann SEPT. 22, 2017

    Early this month, on the day after President Trump announced his intention to end the Dreamers program for young immigrants in the United States, the European Court of Justice issued a very different ruling on the other side of the Atlantic. Dismissing the objections of Hungary and Slovakia to the European Union refugee relocation program, the court upheld the European Commission’s legal right to request all member states to take in a prescribed number of refugees, as it did at the height of the migrant crisis in 2015.

    Both decisions touched on issues rooted in Western liberal values: human solidarity, openness toward those looking for a better future, diversity as an asset. For the first time since World War II, these values have come under attack in the West. Not from hostile foreign powers. Not from domestic fringe elements or extremist political movements, which we have come to see as a testimony to the pluralism of our democracies. This time, the assault is coming from within and from the top — from democratically elected leaders.
     

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr. Anon

    Dismissing the objections of Hungary and Slovakia to the European Union refugee relocation program, …

    Hey, how about we start a new Axis of Evil 2.0? It’ll be America, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. No, it doesn’t have to be a straight line – just look at Axis of Evil 1.0.

    Poland can join up if they promise to keep being evil.

    OK, guys, who’s in?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Count me in!

  125. @fnn
    @Luke Lea

    Of course the South has always been the LEAST anti-Semitic part of the US. There were even two Jews on the Grand Jury that indicted Leo Frank.

    Replies: @Alden

    Well, there was clear and present physical evidence that Leo Frank did it. His hair, not the hair of the black man the Jews blamed for the murder and rape were all over her shoulders, chest, head and between her legs.

    The local police might not have advanced forensic science in those days but they had eyes, magnifying glasses and microscopes that were totally capable of distinguishing Caucasian hair from negro hair. And there was not one negro hair on Mary Phagan.

  126. You’ll note that the Jewish numbers are similar to atheist or agnostic because that’s essentially what most non-Orthodox modern American Jews are. Of course people who are church going are going to regard other church goers more highly than non-church goers. So your typical Jewish atheist Upper West Side cat lady and your typical non-Jewish atheist Upper West Side cat lady are going to feel about the same about Holy Rollers.

    There is no doubt (in my mind) that American Jews need to get out of the Upper West Side more often and change their attitude (Michelle really does need to visit Wyoming and not just some ski resort). But this is a two way street – if they get out and what they see is WN’s chanting “the Jews will not replace us” they will flee back to their cat lady sanctuaries in horror.

    • Replies: @AM
    @Jack D


    Of course people who are church going are going to regard other church goers more highly than non-church goers.
     
    No, not really. One of the more experiences holding me back from seriously contemplating the truth of the Christianity was what Vox Day refers to as "churchians". Possibly the least appealing aspect of most churches are The Regular Church Goers (TM) who are there because they are The Most Holiest of Rollers.

    When asked "Who will get into Heaven", Jesus replies something to the effect of all sorts of people who claim to have known God (regular church/temple goers) will be left outside the narrow gate. It's tough sell for the Priest when that Gospel reading comes up, as you can imagine.

    But this is a two way street – if they get out and what they see is WN’s chanting “the Jews will not replace us” they will flee back to their cat lady sanctuaries in horror.
     
    And?

    Cat lady sanctuaries only last as long as the human that was unwilling to reproduce.

    This is our Christian country. They have Israel if that's what they really want. We don't need to bend that way. It's not our fault that atheist cat ladies don't get out much.
    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    You’ll note that the Jewish numbers are similar to atheist or agnostic because that’s essentially what most non-Orthodox modern American Jews are.
     
    But Evangelicals don't like atheists. That relationship is reciprocal. Meanwhile irreligious Jews are trading on a religious-yet-also-ethnic brand name and so escaping Evangelical awareness and disfavor. Evangelicals would shield Ms. Goldberg from any suggestion that ethnic resentment rather than pure fedoraism motivates her.

    The uniquely pro-Jewish sentiment from Evangelicals (Jews are their favorites and they're the group that likes Jews most) doesn't seem to have spared them the wrath of irreligious Jews (Evangelicals are Jews' most disfavored group, on a par with Muslims). So why should we expect media-academic pulpit Jews to experience a mass conversion event and reverse course? Why would they ever think it's in their interests to do so?

    The post-Trump indications are that they're strengthening the rules governing who's allowed to think of their ethnic self-interest: WASP's -- absolutely not; non-whites -- like their lives depend on it; Jews -- yes, but you're not allowed to know that (except when the victim card can be played); other Ellis Islanders -- they should be more like Jews. If they just intrinsically dislike bible-thumping no matter what, why would they come around to accepting heritage America's self-interest?

  127. @Jack D
    @Barnard

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) - Mary Jackson's supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program - not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don't seem to run in that particular groove - I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    Replies: @res, @inertial, @utu, @YetAnotherAnon, @Triumph104, @FredR

    There are plenty of prominent Jews in the airspace design and engineering on the Russian side. To list some of the best known: Mikhail Gurevich of the MiG airplanes, Mikhail Mil the Chief Designer of the Mil helicopters, Boris Chertok the Deputy Chief Designer of the Soviet space program.

    It started early too, with this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsevolod_Abramovich .

    A grandson of a famous Yiddish writer. Chief test pilot of the Wright brothers’ German subsidiary. Built his airplane based on Wrights’ design but with his own modifications (and named it after himself,) flew this plane to St. Petersburg, and used it to set several records. All this in a space of only a couple of years, as he was killed in a crash in 1913.

  128. @Anonymous
    (((Bazelon))) in the NYT:

    https://twitter.com/larabazelon/status/911224347439722501

    Replies: @Autochthon, @Erik L

    She writes her conclusion about the group whom the law will punish – known by anyone with half a brain to be teeming with violent predators – as if it were a bad thing….

    In other ostensibly appalling news, laws protecting wildlife harm poachers and polluters.

  129. I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact

    So, let’s get rid of the usa Constitution if respecting it merely threatens our hegemony and not our survival ? I’m guessing that she’s thinking of increasingly vexing annoyances like the Electoral College and the First amendment.

    Anyone else thinks that the betrayal of one liberal principles after another by the Left is one way the Right will find its way out of its intellectual backwater ? The unfortunate situation is that the contemporary Right usually waits for the Left to give it permission to think about something before it thinks about it.

    Illiberalism has a long pedigree on the Right but it’s been dormant for a while.
    Refusing to let one’s throat be slit because of “muh constitution” is an actually sensible idea. We on the Right used to know this stuff. We used to know it better than the Left. They’re making it Ok again to talk about.

    Let’s seize this opportunity and once we’ve gotten used to speaking beyond liberalism, let’s start to speak about removing all authority from the enemy.

  130. @bartok
    @Cagey Beast


    Why does what the NYT thinks and says matter to me? Because, as I said, our governing classes in North America treat it as their guiding star
     
    Try a slightly different analogy - it's more tightly coupled than a 'guiding star'. The Democratic Party is merely the political wing of the Cathedral (NYT + Harvard + Washington/NGOs). h/t Moldbug

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    No, I think mine is apt. A guiding star is a distant and trusted marker by which to navigate. The NYT is treated as such by the lower and mid-level Outer Party types out in the provinces of North America. If the NYT tells them Putin is being mean to the gays, these types are out there the next morning raising a rainbow flag in front of the Gopher Creek town hall.

    As for “the Cathedral”, that has to be the worst political metaphor of this short century. It’s based on a software engineer’s faulty understanding of cathedral building and is made ten times worse by Fred Garvin or whatever Moldbug’s real name is.

  131. @MarcB.
    @anonymouslee

    "Unbelievable. Presumably people too young to remember the George W. Bush era will take them at their word…"

    They started this amnesia way back in 2008, during the emergence of the Tea Party movement. All of a sudden RINO's and NeoCon's (who had month's earlier been the root of all evil) instantly became their worthy, reasonable and loyal opposition, while the Tea Partiers represented the modern face of the dangerous and extreme John Birch Society.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Remember the signs “Bush = Hitler” and “Bushitler”?

    Now he’s just a nice guy who somehow found himself invading Iraq.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Frau Katze

    I was going to mention this. The term"the Chimpler" was also a lefty favorite.

  132. @BB753
    "Well, I’m proud of a piece I wrote for Slate last year about a really sad situation in Twin Falls, Idaho. It’s fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee boys — they were 7, 10 and 14 — and a white 5-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town."

    What the hell? How could we miss that article? Pure Isteve fodder!
    Michelle Goldberg seems fully on board with the
    "Russia stole the elections from Hillary!" lunacy.

    BTW, the NY Times must be about 90%+ Jewish and the rest token gentiles, some of them being Persons of Vibrancy. It does not look like America, not even like New York!

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @anon

    Persons of Vibrancy. Good one!

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Frau Katze

    I think I stole that one from an Isteve commenter. Can't remember.

  133. @Daniel H
    @Cagey Beast

    Within 5 years, the NY Times will survive to the extent that Carlos Slim (or some other billionaire patron) finds it useful. The Times doesn't matter anymore, except to laugh at.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    It matters to a hell of a lot of people with the big and small jobs in our crappy, hostile, degenerate and degenerated managerial class. Big and small policymakers care what the NYT says because they’d be lost without it.

  134. @Jack D
    @Barnard

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) - Mary Jackson's supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program - not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don't seem to run in that particular groove - I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    Replies: @res, @inertial, @utu, @YetAnotherAnon, @Triumph104, @FredR

    Jews seem strangely absent from the space program

    What about the moon landing? I am thinking of Stanley Kubrick.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @utu


    What about the moon landing? I am thinking of Stanley Kubrick.
     
    Yeah, the footage from the lunar surface looked just like 2001: A Space Oddyssey - to people who are ignorant and unobservant
  135. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @whoever

    Of the last two decades William McGowan wrote both "Coloring the News" and the follow up "Grey Lady Down" both about the decline of journalism and especially the NYT.

    McGowan had a lot of insight, but was wrong that the NYT was not following a defined business model or plan.

    NYT is no longer about making profits through anything remotely recognizable as journalism. Its mission today is to be subsidized by the Elites for installing fear in the shrinking white collar class of possibly being out of line with the (((progressive)))/Globalist agenda.

    Folks don't read the NYT so much to be informed but out of fear of not being able to tow the PC line which shifts day to day and finding oneself out of a job.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    NYT is no longer about making profits through anything remotely recognizable as journalism. Its mission today is to be subsidized by the Elites for installing fear in the shrinking white collar class of possibly being out of line with the (((progressive)))/Globalist agenda.

    Yep, that’s what I think too. I think the Legacy Lyin’ Press will be propped up one way or another, underhandedly by the Feral government or via support from our elites via their other, profitable enterprises. It’s not just about the money now; these businesses are “too duplicitous to fail”.

    I realize Steve, that you get lots of material to illustrate the sickness of our elites, along with their presstitutes, but it’s be better for most of us to just ignore these cnrtl-left outlets along with the NFL and all the rest of the TV. It’s just rot, anymore, and the less you remain in contact with it, and the more you get outside, the better you will feel (until they come for us, because not enough people have been warned … so, yeah, pro and con there.)

  136. OT:

    The San Antonio Supercuck explains New Left identity politics as he has come to understand it:

  137. @JimB
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Ye of little faith. If Alabamans vote for Judge Moore in tomorrow's senate primary I'll feel partially vindicated. Especially if it triggers a bunch of RINOs to retire.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @3g4me

    Don’t feel vindicated if Moore wins (I don’t think he will). Just because he isn’t establishment doesn’t mean he’s all right. He’s a total nutter who will probably somehow manage to derail Trump’s agenda in Congress -will pull stunts like Ted Cruz did to shut down gov’t, only worse and more pointless/distracting. We’re talking a guy who is a failed Australian karate star, who thought he’d be offed by his own platoon in Vietnam. He’s been around a long time in Alabama, he makes his living being a perpetual candidate.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @S. Anonyia

    Just so long as Moore votes against Amnesty I don't care how kooky he is. He can wear a bathrobe to debates as far as I'm concerned. There is only one issue that matters in the long run. Bringing an end to mass immigration.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

  138. @Neoconned
    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/24/devastation_from_hurricane_maria_set_puerto_rico_back_nearly_20_to_30_years.html

    Steve large parts of P Rico are going w/o power for "6 mnths to a yr"....

    Expect large numbers of PRs to start showing up to a city near u soon

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Steve Sailer, @Jus' Sayin'..., @FLgeezer

    Isn’t the entire populace already in Noo Yawk and Orlando?

    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    @FLgeezer

    Don't forget Noo Joisy. I've lived near,worked with,been friends with and (when younger) dated PRs. They could have been assimilated if not for the rest of the Latin American tidal wave.

  139. @Frau Katze
    @MarcB.

    Remember the signs "Bush = Hitler" and "Bushitler"?

    Now he's just a nice guy who somehow found himself invading Iraq.

    Replies: @Anonym

    I was going to mention this. The term”the Chimpler” was also a lefty favorite.

  140. @AnotherDad
    @dcthrowback


    Goldberg, for years, told women not to have kids. OFC, she then wrote 5k words on all of her challenges of finally achieving motherhood (2x).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thecut/i-was-a-proud-nonbreeder-then-i-changed-my-mind_b_7450714.html
     

    Despite what I think about this hire, this is actually--unintentionally in some respects--a reasonably decent article. In a couple of different ways.

    The first thing that struck me is that she apparently as a college educated young woman did not understand this very basic human idea that children are our immortality. That they are the part of us that lives on after we are gone and continue our family, our race and our civilization into the future. Children are the way we "cheat death".

    Heck, this is something--not dwelling on the "death" part--that I would talk about to the scouts during my time as scoutmaster, often using the "passing the baton" analogy. That the adult leaders were here passing down Scouting to them to help them be the future leaders of our nation and Western civilization after we were gone. And in turn that older scouts were also "passing the baton" of scouting--mentoring, teaching skills--so they would be leading our troop in the years to come. Not exactly rocket science stuff.

    But here's this obviously smart young woman who fancies herself some sort of "intellectual" with the "things to say" to the extent she's a columnist and author of a couple books ... and she didn't seem to grasp this most fundamental aspect of human existence--we all die, but through our children, our families, our race and civilization we live on.

    Goldberg apparently needed to go to Israel to figure this out. I can't help thinking that seeing actually Jewish people concerned about death and their family's continuance in a place that takes the survival of the Jewish race very seriously ... was the prompt she needed to understand basic reality. Conversely Jewish alienation from Gentile society seems to me to account for a good bit of the anti-traditional, anti-natal, anti-white attitudes Jewish writers are continually propagating. They just don't have a visceral connection to the surrounding Gentiles wanting to preserve their family, culture, nation.
    ~

    The 2nd thing that struck me was how incredibly--and apparently unself-consciously--selfish and self-absorbed she was. Oh, i'm flying to London, going out and getting sloshed, then it's off to Thailand or Israel or somewhere. BFD. Hey, I like travelling. I'm glad I've had the chance to do some and hope to do more in retirement. But compared to my kids? If I never got to leave the USofA but had my kids, healthy and doing well--i'm great! And heck, did I really need to actually travel to say India to determine it was like ... India. We have these things called books! Now we even have film. And now the Internet! It's not like world travel is required for an intelligent person to know about the world.
    ~

    Finally--on the intentional side--I thought Goldberg's description of her bonding with baby boy was spot on. The joy, the longing, the all encompassing nature of it, the way her life "flipped" and her career and all the work concerns became the annoying intrusion into her private mommy world.

    I've--obviously--never experience the full female hormonal side of it, though I know how powerful it was for me as a dad. Of course, as a dad I couldn't relax on career--in fact, I had to dig in and push harder to make sure I was a success and there would be bread on the table. But I know about the emotional pull for me. And seen it--hormones full on--in my wife. Goldberg to her credit does a credible job describing her experience.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Achmed E. Newman

    Another kick-ass comment, Another Dad!

    I never was against having kids and nearly as selfish as Mrs. Goldberg (per your readings), but still, until having a kid, I could not understand the big picture as you describe.

    However, that brings us to the root of the problem – back in the 1960’s young people were told to not trust anyone over 30, meaning they would not take advice, about biological clocks and just the happiness in having a family, and anything else. For thousands of years before, this advice was wisely handed down and accepted, but not anymore. Lots of people, career-women especially, have learned the hard-way – not the kind of lesson you can say “lesson learned” about, cause what’s the point by then?

    Additionally, during the same error, even the parents were warning of overpopulation, so some probably took this to heart. I’m not knocking the warnings, but it’d have worked out much better if someone warned the 3rd world and we didn’t implement a socialist welfare state about that same time, which promptly encouraged breeding in the irresponsible, poor, and generally-stupid “communities”.

  141. @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason


    but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.
     
    That's not the general sense of the word, that's a very NARROW sense of the word. When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman" he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.

    Sex has never been defined, either in law or popular discourse as " only that which can get you pregnant".

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Jonathan Mason, @Autochthon, @Anonym

    Precisely my point in alluding to Clinton’s mendacity; thank you.

    As any intimation that the legal terminology obfuscates matters and encourages wild speculation, Lee Stranahan’s interview with the victim’s father, who saw the monsters’ sick movie, makes it clear what happened to anyone who finds him credible:

    Q: So you watched thirty seconds of the video and it was clear to you from the thirty seconds that you saw what was – thirty seconds was enough for you to see what was going on?

    A: Thirty seconds showed them in the laundry room, they pulled my daughter around, pushed her up against the wall, pulled her pants off, he dropped his pants, he was trying to get her from behind, you know, they only … no, for the boy that was trying to do it he was, you know, he was only seven to nine years old, so not a lot of… he didn’t know what he was really doing, as you’d expect.

    The victim tried to escape her refugee tormentors as they danced around her and laughed at her, the father said. “My daughter didn’t really, was trying to fight him a little bit,” he continued. “[S]he finally got away, pulled her pants up, ran around to the side of a corner, ran inside a washing machine, hunched down, shaking in fear, while he danced around with his pants down, laughing at her, pointing at her, with all the other boys – you could hear them in the background, doing the same thing – and that’s all I watched.”

    The video continued for another couple minutes, he said, but could not bring himself to watch it. “I know there was a lot more that happened that was told to me by the prosecutor who had watched the video,” he said. “More after that, you know, he went back to her, tried doing the front, he, um… oral sex with, you know, oral with her, he shoved it in her mouth,” which is considered rape, the victim’s mother added as he spoke. “He peed all over her in her mouth, all over her body, her face, head … totally defiled her.”

    After the attack, the Muslim refugee families of the boys collectively swarmed their victim’s apartment and urged the parents not to call police after the attack, he said.

    Always remember that plea bargains nearly always involve admission to lesser, included offence(s) than the convict has in fact committed: in contractual terms, the consideration for the certain conviction (via a plea of “guilty”) is the escape from the possible (or even probable) conviction at trial of the greater offence(s).

    This beautiful child’s father exercised remarkable restraint under the circumstances. Me? I probably would have done as Jay Maynor did, but only after an extended conversation in the back of a box truck in the wilderness, which would begin with a pair of pliers and something to do with the assailants’ fingernails….

    As it is, these despicable pieces of shit will doubtless be off to college with a scholarship witin ten years.

    Contemptible.

  142. @Jack D
    @Barnard

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) - Mary Jackson's supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program - not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don't seem to run in that particular groove - I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    Replies: @res, @inertial, @utu, @YetAnotherAnon, @Triumph104, @FredR

    Marcel Dassault was a pretty good Jewish aeronautical engineer (he converted to Catholicism), and the various Mysteres and Mirages right up to today’s Rafale are pretty good aircraft.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Yes, there seem to be a number of European born Jews involved with aeronautical engineering. I should also mention German Jew Gerhard Neumann of GE jet engine fame. I was specifically thinking of American Jews. Israel also has a well developed aerospace industry.

    Jews don't seem as overrepresented in engineering to the same extent as in other learned professions. For example, there are a lot more Jews (as a %) at Harvard and Penn than there are at MIT or Cal Tech (and vice versa for Asians). They might be only 2 or 4x overrepresented instead of 10x overrepresented vs the general population.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  143. @Jonathan Mason

    Michelle: Remember a few weeks before the election, when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?”
     
    I seem to remember her voting in favor of attacking Iraq when she had the opportunity to mobilize opposition, but I am getting old and my memory is failing, so perhaps it was a different female senator with a safe Democratic Party seat in New York state who was so easily fooled by George W. Bush. (That is why I would never vote for her even if she was running against Adolf Hitler himself.)

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    (That is why I would never vote for her even if she was running against Adolf Hitler himself)

    Me neither – I’d vote for the Libertarian. Adolf and the Hildabeast would probably split the evil bloc, the stupid would vote for the Communist candidate, and, viola, we’d finally have our guy … the Commie would win. (I always seem to underestimate the stupid vote.)

  144. @Jonathan Mason
    @Jack D


    When Clinton said “I did not have sex with that woman” he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.
     
    I am sure he intended to mislead, but among heterosexual people who have sex, the phrase 'have sex' does usually refer to having vaginal intercourse. It is theoretically possible that Ms. Lewinsky could have done all that has been described, and yet remained technically a virgin, even though it is unlikely she was saving herself for Mr. Right. Anyway, denying 'having sex' with her was the gentlemanly thing to do under the circumstances, and better than saying "I tried to have sex with her, but only made it to third base" which would have been considered unbecoming of a POTUS at that date (though maybe not by current standards).

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    It is theoretically possible that Ms. Lewinsky could have done all that has been described, and yet remained technically a virgin, even though it is unlikely she was saving herself for Mr. Right. Anyway, denying ‘having sex’ with her was the gentlemanly thing to do under the circumstances, …

    I think you lost your argument long ago on this one, John. “Saving herself for Mr. Right??! Haha, who would that be, George Soros? Beelzebubba himself? Also, Bill Clinton was far gone from gentlemanly way back in his Mena, Arkansas days. How did the cigar story help him become seen as a gentleman again? Oh, was Miss Lewinski saving herself for something more upscale, like a Cuban?*
    .
    .
    .

    * I’m talking cigars here, not real Cubans.

  145. @Jack D
    @Jonathan Mason


    but never did anything that could have gotten her pregnant, which would be sex, in the general sense of the word.
     
    That's not the general sense of the word, that's a very NARROW sense of the word. When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman" he intended to mislead us into thinking that there was no sexual contact between them, not that they had had every conceivable type of sex except vaginal intercourse.

    Sex has never been defined, either in law or popular discourse as " only that which can get you pregnant".

    Replies: @Daniel Chieh, @Jonathan Mason, @Autochthon, @Anonym

    He emphasizes each word, and maybe ‘sexual’ a bit more than the others. The only possible reproductive outcomes of the events of that day would have been asexual, e.g. if Bill were to parthogenetically sprout little Clintons on his arm, or something of that nature.

  146. @S. Anonyia
    @JimB

    Don't feel vindicated if Moore wins (I don't think he will). Just because he isn't establishment doesn't mean he's all right. He's a total nutter who will probably somehow manage to derail Trump's agenda in Congress -will pull stunts like Ted Cruz did to shut down gov't, only worse and more pointless/distracting. We're talking a guy who is a failed Australian karate star, who thought he'd be offed by his own platoon in Vietnam. He's been around a long time in Alabama, he makes his living being a perpetual candidate.

    Replies: @JimB

    Just so long as Moore votes against Amnesty I don’t care how kooky he is. He can wear a bathrobe to debates as far as I’m concerned. There is only one issue that matters in the long run. Bringing an end to mass immigration.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt, Nico
    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @JimB

    Strange will vote against amnesty too, though. Without being a one-man clown show.

  147. @Frau Katze
    @BB753

    Persons of Vibrancy. Good one!

    Replies: @BB753

    I think I stole that one from an Isteve commenter. Can’t remember.

  148. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    Marcel Dassault was a pretty good Jewish aeronautical engineer (he converted to Catholicism), and the various Mysteres and Mirages right up to today's Rafale are pretty good aircraft.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes, there seem to be a number of European born Jews involved with aeronautical engineering. I should also mention German Jew Gerhard Neumann of GE jet engine fame. I was specifically thinking of American Jews. Israel also has a well developed aerospace industry.

    Jews don’t seem as overrepresented in engineering to the same extent as in other learned professions. For example, there are a lot more Jews (as a %) at Harvard and Penn than there are at MIT or Cal Tech (and vice versa for Asians). They might be only 2 or 4x overrepresented instead of 10x overrepresented vs the general population.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    I have a theory that while Ashkenazi IQ might have been concentrated in the past on finance/taxation e.g. the arenda system in Poland,

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0002_0_01275.html

    http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kolomea/arenda.htm

    that to some extent it's a question of "where the money is", and I don't mean that in a negative way.

    When the UK was a great industrial nation, there were great Jewish industrialists like Alfred Mond, a tradition all the way to people like Michael Sobell and Arnold Weinstock.

    Now the UK makes very little but imports and consumes a lot, you have retailers like Philip Green and David/Simon Wolfson of Next (though there's been a Jewish presence in UK retail for a long time e.g. Tesco, M&S).

  149. @Nico
    @Bill


    Of course, energizing though Trump’s performance was, it looks like the Ailes/Atwater strategy directed at the emerging alt-right. Make nearly content-free rhetorical gestures towards your base as you sell them out on substance.
     
    The reason I'm not yet blackpilled on Trump is because I'm not disappointed in the non-realization of fantastic expectations I never had. If Trump can shift the Overton window and dismantle these ersatz icons of "unity" that may, just may, be enough. The best thing any of us can do is to keep that in mind and keep a vigilant eye over the next few years. Triumph is still quite a ways off

    Replies: @AM

    The reason I’m not yet blackpilled on Trump is because I’m not disappointed in the non-realization of fantastic expectations I never had.

    Yes, exactly. The blackpillers, ironically, seemed to have expected just short of the 2nd coming.

    Me, I was quite pleased that The Wicked Witch of the West(ern) Civilization did not end up in the Presidency.

    Anybody was a step up, and as a bonus Trump appears to be an intelligent man, quite at home with diplomacy and politics. And he pissed off all the right people. Overton window shifts galore and in the end, it maybe exactly what we need. Trump at best, will only be in charge for another 7 and 1/4 years.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @AM


    Me, I was quite pleased that The Wicked Witch of the West(ern) Civilization did not end up in the Presidency.
     
    We dodged a serious bullet on that one.

    Anybody was a step up, and as a bonus Trump appears to be an intelligent man, quite at home with diplomacy and politics. And he pissed off all the right people. Overton window shifts galore and in the end, it maybe exactly what we need. Trump at best, will only be in charge for another 7 and 1/4 years.
     
    Yes, the wall is a waste and attention should be focused on mass deportation, *especially* of the ungrateful bratty DREAMers. But already he's exposed them for what they are and he's exposed the entire intelligentsia for the P.C. partisan destructive hacks they have been for many decades.

    On the diplomatic front things could not be better. Setting a red line to show Russia the fang without getting into a catastrophic "regime change" we have neither the will nor the capital to manage. Embarrassing the former Sino-Soviet bloc on the world stage. Warning the E.U. to man up. I can only complain he's not taken Soros on more frontally, but we'll see.
  150. @AnotherDad

    New York Times Hires Extremely Diverse New Columnist
     
    Geez, they couldn't get a whiny Asian woman to wag her finger at us deplorables?

    I realize the Jews have slapped an Asian quota on the Ivy Leagues--at pretty much the same level as the infamous quotacaust Jewish quota. But still there's a plethora of Asian Ivy League grads. And yeah, i know Asians are more prone to "value creation" activities--as our local Asian supremacists continually reminds us--than Jews. But still ... we're talking about girls here--not big value creators--and asking her to whine about evil white men. I think there's a bunch of Asian girls out there--white boyfriend dumped them, etc. etc.--who could get the job done. Where is the diversity?

    Replies: @DFH, @Steve Sailer

    “Jews seem strangely absent from the space program”

    The space program was aimed to boost the South: Houston, Huntsville, AL, Cape Canaveral. LBJ as a Senator from Texas and Senate Majority Leader played a big role in getting Houston the central HQ.

    Besides the Germans, Canadian engineers played a sizable role at NASA after the cancellation of the Canadian Aero superjet.

    A lot of WWII high tech spending had been in places like New York and Boston, but other people learned from it and lobbied for their locations during the Cold War. For example, Fred Terman had spent WWII at Harvard (I think) and swore that his Stanford would get a much bigger cut out of the next war.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Steve Sailer


    The space program was aimed to boost the South: Houston, Huntsville, AL, Cape Canaveral. LBJ as a Senator from Texas and Senate Majority Leader played a big role in getting Houston the central HQ.
     
    I took a bus tour of Boston, and the tour guide told us that when Kennedy ramped up the space program, he had planned to make sure that the communication headquarters would be in Boston as a piece of graft. Then after Oswald shot him, LBJ took over and made sure the headquarters would be in his home state, Texas. It really didn't matter where the communications were from, since once in space anywhere in the country was equidistant from the astronauts in orbit/the moon.

    Haven't you ever wondered why the space program, which launches from Florida, has it's communications in....far away Texas? That's why.

    So Lee Harvey Oswald can be held responsible for why the phrase, "Boston, we have a problem" never became a thing in our culture.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  151. @Jack D
    You'll note that the Jewish numbers are similar to atheist or agnostic because that's essentially what most non-Orthodox modern American Jews are. Of course people who are church going are going to regard other church goers more highly than non-church goers. So your typical Jewish atheist Upper West Side cat lady and your typical non-Jewish atheist Upper West Side cat lady are going to feel about the same about Holy Rollers.

    There is no doubt (in my mind) that American Jews need to get out of the Upper West Side more often and change their attitude (Michelle really does need to visit Wyoming and not just some ski resort). But this is a two way street - if they get out and what they see is WN's chanting "the Jews will not replace us" they will flee back to their cat lady sanctuaries in horror.

    Replies: @AM, @Anonymous

    Of course people who are church going are going to regard other church goers more highly than non-church goers.

    No, not really. One of the more experiences holding me back from seriously contemplating the truth of the Christianity was what Vox Day refers to as “churchians”. Possibly the least appealing aspect of most churches are The Regular Church Goers (TM) who are there because they are The Most Holiest of Rollers.

    When asked “Who will get into Heaven”, Jesus replies something to the effect of all sorts of people who claim to have known God (regular church/temple goers) will be left outside the narrow gate. It’s tough sell for the Priest when that Gospel reading comes up, as you can imagine.

    But this is a two way street – if they get out and what they see is WN’s chanting “the Jews will not replace us” they will flee back to their cat lady sanctuaries in horror.

    And?

    Cat lady sanctuaries only last as long as the human that was unwilling to reproduce.

    This is our Christian country. They have Israel if that’s what they really want. We don’t need to bend that way. It’s not our fault that atheist cat ladies don’t get out much.

  152. @Anonymous
    (((Bazelon))) in the NYT:

    https://twitter.com/larabazelon/status/911224347439722501

    Replies: @Autochthon, @Erik L

    Maybe she has a son. Maybe this induces reason on this issue but she feels she must express it in a politically correct manner instead of “I have a son and would prefer that our normal justice standards apply to him as well”? Maybe

  153. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @BB753
    "Well, I’m proud of a piece I wrote for Slate last year about a really sad situation in Twin Falls, Idaho. It’s fascinating place — a very rural, conservative town, but also a major center of refugee resettlement that’s historically been welcoming to people from all over the world. Anti-refugee activism started rising in tandem with Trump’s presidential campaign, and last year it boiled over around a disturbing, ambiguous case of sexual assault involving three refugee boys — they were 7, 10 and 14 — and a white 5-year-old girl. The story was hyped and hugely distorted by Breitbart and others. It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town."

    What the hell? How could we miss that article? Pure Isteve fodder!
    Michelle Goldberg seems fully on board with the
    "Russia stole the elections from Hillary!" lunacy.

    BTW, the NY Times must be about 90%+ Jewish and the rest token gentiles, some of them being Persons of Vibrancy. It does not look like America, not even like New York!

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @anon

    It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town.”

    i’m aware that a white nationalist or separatist group was trying to organize a demonstration but i dont think it happened probably because they couldn’t get funding. They tried to crowdfund online and didnt have much luck. Maybe this is what they mean by “Russia was involved”?

    • Replies: @BB753
    @anon

    If Russia really wanted Trump to win that bad, they'd have been funding Black Lives Matter instead of obscure far-right organizations.

  154. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    You'll note that the Jewish numbers are similar to atheist or agnostic because that's essentially what most non-Orthodox modern American Jews are. Of course people who are church going are going to regard other church goers more highly than non-church goers. So your typical Jewish atheist Upper West Side cat lady and your typical non-Jewish atheist Upper West Side cat lady are going to feel about the same about Holy Rollers.

    There is no doubt (in my mind) that American Jews need to get out of the Upper West Side more often and change their attitude (Michelle really does need to visit Wyoming and not just some ski resort). But this is a two way street - if they get out and what they see is WN's chanting "the Jews will not replace us" they will flee back to their cat lady sanctuaries in horror.

    Replies: @AM, @Anonymous

    You’ll note that the Jewish numbers are similar to atheist or agnostic because that’s essentially what most non-Orthodox modern American Jews are.

    But Evangelicals don’t like atheists. That relationship is reciprocal. Meanwhile irreligious Jews are trading on a religious-yet-also-ethnic brand name and so escaping Evangelical awareness and disfavor. Evangelicals would shield Ms. Goldberg from any suggestion that ethnic resentment rather than pure fedoraism motivates her.

    The uniquely pro-Jewish sentiment from Evangelicals (Jews are their favorites and they’re the group that likes Jews most) doesn’t seem to have spared them the wrath of irreligious Jews (Evangelicals are Jews’ most disfavored group, on a par with Muslims). So why should we expect media-academic pulpit Jews to experience a mass conversion event and reverse course? Why would they ever think it’s in their interests to do so?

    The post-Trump indications are that they’re strengthening the rules governing who’s allowed to think of their ethnic self-interest: WASP’s — absolutely not; non-whites — like their lives depend on it; Jews — yes, but you’re not allowed to know that (except when the victim card can be played); other Ellis Islanders — they should be more like Jews. If they just intrinsically dislike bible-thumping no matter what, why would they come around to accepting heritage America’s self-interest?

  155. @Johan Schmidt
    @hhsiii

    I'm afraid there's too many negatives for me to be able to parse that sentence.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Hhsiii

    The Greek chick soft soaped stats that undermined her “oh noz campus rape” book. Goldberg called her on it.

  156. @ic1000
    @hhsiii

    > That’s Grigoriadis slamming Goldberg for emphasizing facts contrary to the campus rape woke party line that Grigoriadis downplays.

    Scanning Goldberg's review, both she and Grigoriadis seem to be on the same side. Good catch, Grigoriadis is the more anti-male of the two.

    Replies: @Hhsiii

    Yeah, damning with faint praise but a slight difference.

  157. @Johan Schmidt
    @hhsiii

    I'm afraid there's too many negatives for me to be able to parse that sentence.

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @Hhsiii

    And btw, there ain’t no negatives in that sentence.

  158. @bobby b

    "Michelle: Remember a few weeks before the election, when Hillary Clinton said, “I’m the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse?” I think she was basically right."
     
    Yeah, she should be a breath of fresh air, bringing new viewpoints and opinions to a hidebound paper.

    Replies: @cwhatfuture

    Hillary was indeed the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse — in the same way a door man is the last thing standing between you and entering the building.

    As for Ms. Goldberg, the NY Times long ago went past being a parody of itself. It is now just a clique at High School, except not the cool kids or smart kids, or good athletes. No – the kids with green hair and safety pins in their noses and torn clothes. Weird people talking to each other.

  159. @Buzz Mohawk
    @PiltdownMan

    Here's something that would make a good New York Times editorial cartoon:

    http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/tumblr_mm3063Hk7L1r2j4dro1_500.jpg

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Well, they’d like to make sure that you see some brown or black skin between the boot and the pants.

    Other than that, it’s perfect.

  160. @Lucius Somesuch
    @whorefinder

    I've never forgotten that one! Althouse made Michelle Goldberg cry.

    And what's with the Enid Coleslaw hairdo? I remember someone back then cracking about Michelle's "finishing school head tilt pose" in front of the camera. This talentless Jewish teenybopper is still trying to rock this look into her forties.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    Although all women have problems with getting older and losing their looks, Michelle Goldberg seems more bothered than most about her youthfulness fading, which is why her pictures seem so cloying.

    It’s possibly because amongst her peers—i.e. female lefty political print reporters/commentators—Goldberg was near the top of the heap in terms of looks when she was young. Goldberg was no beauty, but she had a cute Jewish reporter in her 20’s look going on. It was probably very nice for her to be able to go from wallflower to top of the heap when Goldberg left a normal gathering and went into a newsroom or gathering of journalists, like how plain girls like to cosplay at comic conventions just to feel like the prettiest girl in the world for a few days as all the thirsty nerds stare at them.

    And Goldberg he probably more than a little suspects it was her looks that got her this far. So losing them must scare her on some level that her career will nosedive.

    She’s gone “cute Jewish girl reporter in her 20s” to middle aged Jewish harranguer. Not a good trajectory.

    • Replies: @The Man From K Street
    @whorefinder


    It’s possibly because amongst her peers—i.e. female lefty political print reporters/commentators—Goldberg was near the top of the heap in terms of looks when she was young. Goldberg was no beauty, but she had a cute Jewish reporter in her 20′s look going on.
     
    It's a point worth emphasizing. Remember Stephen Glass? Of course you do. But hardly anyone remembers that just before that time The New Republic had a serial plagiarism scandal with a lady reporter named Ruth Shalit. Some TNR staffers later confessed that she got away with it for so long because she was the cute _shayna maidel_ in a newsroom that, as one of them put it, was like every newsroom everywhere--"a room full of ugly." (She also apparently put out discreetly for most of the hetero editors at the magazine at one point or another, but I suspect she would have been shielded regardless).

    "Rooms full of ugly." If you think of the MSM as extended high school, things become clearer.
  161. @Steve Sailer
    @AnotherDad

    "Jews seem strangely absent from the space program"

    The space program was aimed to boost the South: Houston, Huntsville, AL, Cape Canaveral. LBJ as a Senator from Texas and Senate Majority Leader played a big role in getting Houston the central HQ.

    Besides the Germans, Canadian engineers played a sizable role at NASA after the cancellation of the Canadian Aero superjet.

    A lot of WWII high tech spending had been in places like New York and Boston, but other people learned from it and lobbied for their locations during the Cold War. For example, Fred Terman had spent WWII at Harvard (I think) and swore that his Stanford would get a much bigger cut out of the next war.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    The space program was aimed to boost the South: Houston, Huntsville, AL, Cape Canaveral. LBJ as a Senator from Texas and Senate Majority Leader played a big role in getting Houston the central HQ.

    I took a bus tour of Boston, and the tour guide told us that when Kennedy ramped up the space program, he had planned to make sure that the communication headquarters would be in Boston as a piece of graft. Then after Oswald shot him, LBJ took over and made sure the headquarters would be in his home state, Texas. It really didn’t matter where the communications were from, since once in space anywhere in the country was equidistant from the astronauts in orbit/the moon.

    Haven’t you ever wondered why the space program, which launches from Florida, has it’s communications in….far away Texas? That’s why.

    So Lee Harvey Oswald can be held responsible for why the phrase, “Boston, we have a problem” never became a thing in our culture.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @whorefinder


    I took a bus tour of Boston, and the tour guide told us that when Kennedy ramped up the space program, he had planned to make sure that the communication headquarters would be in Boston as a piece of graft. Then after Oswald shot him, LBJ took over and made sure the headquarters would be in his home state, Texas.
     
    Your tour guide was mistaken. Construction of JSC began in April of 1962, when Kennedy was still alive.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Space_Center

    Johnson is not primarily a communications center, but rather the primary center for manned spacecraft, astronaut training and operations, and mission control for manned missions. It could - as you say - just as well have been placed at the Cape, but they wanted to spread the pork around.
  162. @anon
    @BB753


    It got really ugly — and The Daily Beast has since reported that Russia was involved in trying to organize an anti-immigrant rally in the town.”
     
    i'm aware that a white nationalist or separatist group was trying to organize a demonstration but i dont think it happened probably because they couldn't get funding. They tried to crowdfund online and didnt have much luck. Maybe this is what they mean by "Russia was involved"?

    Replies: @BB753

    If Russia really wanted Trump to win that bad, they’d have been funding Black Lives Matter instead of obscure far-right organizations.

  163. @JimB
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Ye of little faith. If Alabamans vote for Judge Moore in tomorrow's senate primary I'll feel partially vindicated. Especially if it triggers a bunch of RINOs to retire.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @3g4me

    @ 114 JimB: “If Alabamans vote for Judge Moore in tomorrow’s senate primary I’ll feel partially vindicated.”

    Yeah, because we’re so voting our way out of this. ‘Murrica, f*&k yeah.

  164. @anonymouslee
    "With George W. Bush you had this perfectly normal guy whose tenure got devoured by a war. "

    I love this new meme that Donald Trump is literally Hitler while George W. Bush is a nice guy they happened to vote against on the basis of polite disagreement but whose presidency they were perfectly willing to accept and respect. George W. Bush was "normal" while it's evil to "normalize" Donald Trump.

    We're now in a crisis of democracy this country has never before encountered, a terrifying new reality one couldn't imagine just a few years ago.

    Unbelievable. Presumably people too young to remember the George W. Bush era will take them at their word...

    Replies: @MarcB., @Redman

    I went to college and was friends with a major future neocon. He wrote the major book arguing for war in Iraq (co-written with Bill Kristol). Best seller the month before the bombs were dropped.

    He wrote the the NRP at the time. And his take was very anti-GWB until it was clear he was owned by the neocons. At that point, the whole crowd fell in love with the born-again W. because they new they had a true patsy for Israel.

  165. @Jack D
    @Barnard

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) - Mary Jackson's supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program - not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don't seem to run in that particular groove - I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    Replies: @res, @inertial, @utu, @YetAnotherAnon, @Triumph104, @FredR

    The world’s first transatlantic passenger was a Jewish man named Charles A. Levine. His daughter gave an interesting account of her relationship with him.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1141380

  166. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Anonymous


    Dismissing the objections of Hungary and Slovakia to the European Union refugee relocation program, ...
     
    Hey, how about we start a new Axis of Evil 2.0? It'll be America, Hungary, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic. No, it doesn't have to be a straight line - just look at Axis of Evil 1.0.

    Poland can join up if they promise to keep being evil.

    OK, guys, who's in?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Count me in!

  167. @utu
    @Jack D

    Jews seem strangely absent from the space program

    What about the moon landing? I am thinking of Stanley Kubrick.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    What about the moon landing? I am thinking of Stanley Kubrick.

    Yeah, the footage from the lunar surface looked just like 2001: A Space Oddyssey – to people who are ignorant and unobservant

  168. I think we’re learning that the Constitution may, in fact, be a suicide pact

    So, let’s get rid of the usa Constitution if respecting it merely threatens our hegemony and not our survival ? I’m guessing that she’s thinking of increasingly vexing annoyances like the Electoral College and the First amendment.

    Anyone else thinks that the betrayal of one liberal principles after another by the Left is one way the Right will find its way out of its intellectual backwater ? The unfortunate situation is that the contemporary Right usually waits for the Left to give it permission to think about something before it thinks about it.

    Illiberalism has a long pedigree on the Right but it’s been dormant for a while.
    Refusing to let one’s throat be slit because of “muh constitution” is an actually sensible idea. We on the Right used to know this stuff. We used to know it better than the Left. They’re making it Ok again to talk about.

    Let’s seize this opportunity and once we’ve gotten used to speaking beyond liberalism, let’s start to speak about removing all moral authority from the Left.

  169. @whorefinder
    @Steve Sailer


    The space program was aimed to boost the South: Houston, Huntsville, AL, Cape Canaveral. LBJ as a Senator from Texas and Senate Majority Leader played a big role in getting Houston the central HQ.
     
    I took a bus tour of Boston, and the tour guide told us that when Kennedy ramped up the space program, he had planned to make sure that the communication headquarters would be in Boston as a piece of graft. Then after Oswald shot him, LBJ took over and made sure the headquarters would be in his home state, Texas. It really didn't matter where the communications were from, since once in space anywhere in the country was equidistant from the astronauts in orbit/the moon.

    Haven't you ever wondered why the space program, which launches from Florida, has it's communications in....far away Texas? That's why.

    So Lee Harvey Oswald can be held responsible for why the phrase, "Boston, we have a problem" never became a thing in our culture.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I took a bus tour of Boston, and the tour guide told us that when Kennedy ramped up the space program, he had planned to make sure that the communication headquarters would be in Boston as a piece of graft. Then after Oswald shot him, LBJ took over and made sure the headquarters would be in his home state, Texas.

    Your tour guide was mistaken. Construction of JSC began in April of 1962, when Kennedy was still alive.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Space_Center

    Johnson is not primarily a communications center, but rather the primary center for manned spacecraft, astronaut training and operations, and mission control for manned missions. It could – as you say – just as well have been placed at the Cape, but they wanted to spread the pork around.

  170. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/911270631324491778

    Sylvie Kauffmann SEPT. 22, 2017

    Early this month, on the day after President Trump announced his intention to end the Dreamers program for young immigrants in the United States, the European Court of Justice issued a very different ruling on the other side of the Atlantic. Dismissing the objections of Hungary and Slovakia to the European Union refugee relocation program, the court upheld the European Commission’s legal right to request all member states to take in a prescribed number of refugees, as it did at the height of the migrant crisis in 2015.

    Both decisions touched on issues rooted in Western liberal values: human solidarity, openness toward those looking for a better future, diversity as an asset. For the first time since World War II, these values have come under attack in the West. Not from hostile foreign powers. Not from domestic fringe elements or extremist political movements, which we have come to see as a testimony to the pluralism of our democracies. This time, the assault is coming from within and from the top — from democratically elected leaders.
     

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Mr. Anon

    Both decisions touched on issues rooted in Western liberal values: human solidarity, openness toward those looking for a better future, diversity as an asset.

    These may be “western liberal” values. They are not necessarily western values.

    This time, the assault is coming from within and from the top — from democratically elected leaders.

    I.e., because people wanted it and voted for it. Ms. Kauffmann claims to value democracy, but not when it permits people to get what they want.

  171. @AM
    @Nico


    The reason I’m not yet blackpilled on Trump is because I’m not disappointed in the non-realization of fantastic expectations I never had.
     
    Yes, exactly. The blackpillers, ironically, seemed to have expected just short of the 2nd coming.

    Me, I was quite pleased that The Wicked Witch of the West(ern) Civilization did not end up in the Presidency.

    Anybody was a step up, and as a bonus Trump appears to be an intelligent man, quite at home with diplomacy and politics. And he pissed off all the right people. Overton window shifts galore and in the end, it maybe exactly what we need. Trump at best, will only be in charge for another 7 and 1/4 years.

    Replies: @Nico

    Me, I was quite pleased that The Wicked Witch of the West(ern) Civilization did not end up in the Presidency.

    We dodged a serious bullet on that one.

    Anybody was a step up, and as a bonus Trump appears to be an intelligent man, quite at home with diplomacy and politics. And he pissed off all the right people. Overton window shifts galore and in the end, it maybe exactly what we need. Trump at best, will only be in charge for another 7 and 1/4 years.

    Yes, the wall is a waste and attention should be focused on mass deportation, *especially* of the ungrateful bratty DREAMers. But already he’s exposed them for what they are and he’s exposed the entire intelligentsia for the P.C. partisan destructive hacks they have been for many decades.

    On the diplomatic front things could not be better. Setting a red line to show Russia the fang without getting into a catastrophic “regime change” we have neither the will nor the capital to manage. Embarrassing the former Sino-Soviet bloc on the world stage. Warning the E.U. to man up. I can only complain he’s not taken Soros on more frontally, but we’ll see.

  172. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Yes, there seem to be a number of European born Jews involved with aeronautical engineering. I should also mention German Jew Gerhard Neumann of GE jet engine fame. I was specifically thinking of American Jews. Israel also has a well developed aerospace industry.

    Jews don't seem as overrepresented in engineering to the same extent as in other learned professions. For example, there are a lot more Jews (as a %) at Harvard and Penn than there are at MIT or Cal Tech (and vice versa for Asians). They might be only 2 or 4x overrepresented instead of 10x overrepresented vs the general population.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I have a theory that while Ashkenazi IQ might have been concentrated in the past on finance/taxation e.g. the arenda system in Poland,

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0002_0_01275.html

    http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kolomea/arenda.htm

    that to some extent it’s a question of “where the money is”, and I don’t mean that in a negative way.

    When the UK was a great industrial nation, there were great Jewish industrialists like Alfred Mond, a tradition all the way to people like Michael Sobell and Arnold Weinstock.

    Now the UK makes very little but imports and consumes a lot, you have retailers like Philip Green and David/Simon Wolfson of Next (though there’s been a Jewish presence in UK retail for a long time e.g. Tesco, M&S).

  173. @Jack D
    @Barnard

    My favorite was this (alluded to but not fully explained in the link) - Mary Jackson's supportive boss in real life was Polish (Catholic) -American engineer Kazimierz Czarnecki. In the movie he is renamed Karl Zielinski and made into a Polish-Jewish Holocaust survivor so he can give a speech about beating impossible odds.

    Meanwhile, the Nazis really responsible for the space program (the Redstone was just an upgraded V-2) are absent from the movie.

    In real life, Jews seem strangely absent from the space program - not from any prejudice that I am aware of. Just seems to be not their thing. Jews seem to be mostly absent from aeronautical engineering and indeed all transportation engineering, though there are some prominent Jews in chemical and electrical engineering and computer science. For some reason Jewish brains don't seem to run in that particular groove - I have no explanation. Jews were present on the financial and distribution side of the development of modern transportation but not much on the engineering side. Maybe Jews are better at dealing with the abstract than the concrete. In fact maybe the best in dealing with the highly abstract, invisible world so they leave the visible and concrete to others?

    Replies: @res, @inertial, @utu, @YetAnotherAnon, @Triumph104, @FredR

    My Jewish engineer grandfather helped design space capsules for NASA

  174. @whorefinder
    @Lucius Somesuch

    Although all women have problems with getting older and losing their looks, Michelle Goldberg seems more bothered than most about her youthfulness fading, which is why her pictures seem so cloying.

    It's possibly because amongst her peers---i.e. female lefty political print reporters/commentators---Goldberg was near the top of the heap in terms of looks when she was young. Goldberg was no beauty, but she had a cute Jewish reporter in her 20's look going on. It was probably very nice for her to be able to go from wallflower to top of the heap when Goldberg left a normal gathering and went into a newsroom or gathering of journalists, like how plain girls like to cosplay at comic conventions just to feel like the prettiest girl in the world for a few days as all the thirsty nerds stare at them.

    And Goldberg he probably more than a little suspects it was her looks that got her this far. So losing them must scare her on some level that her career will nosedive.

    She's gone "cute Jewish girl reporter in her 20s" to middle aged Jewish harranguer. Not a good trajectory.

    Replies: @The Man From K Street

    It’s possibly because amongst her peers—i.e. female lefty political print reporters/commentators—Goldberg was near the top of the heap in terms of looks when she was young. Goldberg was no beauty, but she had a cute Jewish reporter in her 20′s look going on.

    It’s a point worth emphasizing. Remember Stephen Glass? Of course you do. But hardly anyone remembers that just before that time The New Republic had a serial plagiarism scandal with a lady reporter named Ruth Shalit. Some TNR staffers later confessed that she got away with it for so long because she was the cute _shayna maidel_ in a newsroom that, as one of them put it, was like every newsroom everywhere–“a room full of ugly.” (She also apparently put out discreetly for most of the hetero editors at the magazine at one point or another, but I suspect she would have been shielded regardless).

    “Rooms full of ugly.” If you think of the MSM as extended high school, things become clearer.

  175. People like Goldberg are not stupid, they are just very misguided. The goal of American white nationalists should be (IMHO) to get people like Goldberg (like Stephen Miller) playing for Team America and not to expel them. WNs make the same mistake with Jews that Hillary made with blue collar whites – you don’t win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways.

    How do you suggest getting Jews on-side? Trying to persuade Jews is a waste of time, in my experience. If you think I criticize Jews to persuade them of anything, you’ve totally lost the plot.

    I don’t think Jews are misguided. I think they share a culture that is astoundingly impenetrable to criticism (I can go on cogently and at length on the how of that, if you like), but it’s guided by Jewish Supremacy; it isn’t misguided, but overdone – take ethnic nationalism too far and you get supremacy.

    But I am genuinely interested in how you think that cat can be skinned. I say it can’t. I say the only way to bring Jews to the table is by the hair on their heads; they have to need to be at that table, for their own bottom line. Altruism, patriotism, compassion, justice, the greater good, forget all that shit. How they see all of those things is too distorted by the Jewish lens. No, their motivations must be far more visceral and immediate. Jews are the guy who will cut your throat and take your crown if you turn your back, and they always will be. Appealing to his better nature will always fail.

    Obviously there are going to be exceptions to that rule, but I don’t think they amount to much in the big picture.

    On the other hand, there is a due diligence aspect to my crit; I’ve warned Jews many times that they’re working toward their next pogrom or expulsion. Not our fault they never listen (I’m “inciting” pogroms or expulsion when I do this, you see).

    Protip: Jews do just fine in Iran. They are allowed no power there, end of story. I suspect that’s the only way to have peace with Jews. It certainly seems equivalent to the way Jews run Israel.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Svigor

    There's an awful lot of intermarrying going on. How Jewish will Zuckerberg's daughter feel?

    , @Jack D
    @Svigor

    From the wiki:

    "Today, the vast majority of Persian Jews live in Israel and the United States, especially in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills and on the North Shore of Long Island. According to the latest Iranian census, the remaining Jewish population of Iran was 8,756 in 2012."

    If your goal is to reduce the status of the Jews of America to that of the few dwindling Jews of Iran, who live in constant fear of being accused of being Israeli spies, then , pardon my French, but F. U. I'll take my chances on pogroms before I will live like that for one minute. I don't believe for an instant that you have the best interests of Jews in mind when you pronounce these phony "warnings". You are just a plain old fashioned anti-Semite. As for being the guy who will cut your throat the minute you turn your back, that sounds like projection to me. The fact that you lie so readily about the status of Jews in Iran proves your bad faith.

  176. @JimB
    @S. Anonyia

    Just so long as Moore votes against Amnesty I don't care how kooky he is. He can wear a bathrobe to debates as far as I'm concerned. There is only one issue that matters in the long run. Bringing an end to mass immigration.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia

    Strange will vote against amnesty too, though. Without being a one-man clown show.

  177. @Svigor

    People like Goldberg are not stupid, they are just very misguided. The goal of American white nationalists should be (IMHO) to get people like Goldberg (like Stephen Miller) playing for Team America and not to expel them. WNs make the same mistake with Jews that Hillary made with blue collar whites – you don’t win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways.
     
    How do you suggest getting Jews on-side? Trying to persuade Jews is a waste of time, in my experience. If you think I criticize Jews to persuade them of anything, you've totally lost the plot.

    I don't think Jews are misguided. I think they share a culture that is astoundingly impenetrable to criticism (I can go on cogently and at length on the how of that, if you like), but it's guided by Jewish Supremacy; it isn't misguided, but overdone - take ethnic nationalism too far and you get supremacy.

    But I am genuinely interested in how you think that cat can be skinned. I say it can't. I say the only way to bring Jews to the table is by the hair on their heads; they have to need to be at that table, for their own bottom line. Altruism, patriotism, compassion, justice, the greater good, forget all that shit. How they see all of those things is too distorted by the Jewish lens. No, their motivations must be far more visceral and immediate. Jews are the guy who will cut your throat and take your crown if you turn your back, and they always will be. Appealing to his better nature will always fail.

    Obviously there are going to be exceptions to that rule, but I don't think they amount to much in the big picture.

    On the other hand, there is a due diligence aspect to my crit; I've warned Jews many times that they're working toward their next pogrom or expulsion. Not our fault they never listen (I'm "inciting" pogroms or expulsion when I do this, you see).

    Protip: Jews do just fine in Iran. They are allowed no power there, end of story. I suspect that's the only way to have peace with Jews. It certainly seems equivalent to the way Jews run Israel.

    Replies: @Flip, @Jack D

    There’s an awful lot of intermarrying going on. How Jewish will Zuckerberg’s daughter feel?

  178. @Svigor

    People like Goldberg are not stupid, they are just very misguided. The goal of American white nationalists should be (IMHO) to get people like Goldberg (like Stephen Miller) playing for Team America and not to expel them. WNs make the same mistake with Jews that Hillary made with blue collar whites – you don’t win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways.
     
    How do you suggest getting Jews on-side? Trying to persuade Jews is a waste of time, in my experience. If you think I criticize Jews to persuade them of anything, you've totally lost the plot.

    I don't think Jews are misguided. I think they share a culture that is astoundingly impenetrable to criticism (I can go on cogently and at length on the how of that, if you like), but it's guided by Jewish Supremacy; it isn't misguided, but overdone - take ethnic nationalism too far and you get supremacy.

    But I am genuinely interested in how you think that cat can be skinned. I say it can't. I say the only way to bring Jews to the table is by the hair on their heads; they have to need to be at that table, for their own bottom line. Altruism, patriotism, compassion, justice, the greater good, forget all that shit. How they see all of those things is too distorted by the Jewish lens. No, their motivations must be far more visceral and immediate. Jews are the guy who will cut your throat and take your crown if you turn your back, and they always will be. Appealing to his better nature will always fail.

    Obviously there are going to be exceptions to that rule, but I don't think they amount to much in the big picture.

    On the other hand, there is a due diligence aspect to my crit; I've warned Jews many times that they're working toward their next pogrom or expulsion. Not our fault they never listen (I'm "inciting" pogroms or expulsion when I do this, you see).

    Protip: Jews do just fine in Iran. They are allowed no power there, end of story. I suspect that's the only way to have peace with Jews. It certainly seems equivalent to the way Jews run Israel.

    Replies: @Flip, @Jack D

    From the wiki:

    “Today, the vast majority of Persian Jews live in Israel and the United States, especially in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills and on the North Shore of Long Island. According to the latest Iranian census, the remaining Jewish population of Iran was 8,756 in 2012.”

    If your goal is to reduce the status of the Jews of America to that of the few dwindling Jews of Iran, who live in constant fear of being accused of being Israeli spies, then , pardon my French, but F. U. I’ll take my chances on pogroms before I will live like that for one minute. I don’t believe for an instant that you have the best interests of Jews in mind when you pronounce these phony “warnings”. You are just a plain old fashioned anti-Semite. As for being the guy who will cut your throat the minute you turn your back, that sounds like projection to me. The fact that you lie so readily about the status of Jews in Iran proves your bad faith.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  179. @Neoconned
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-25/anthony-weiner-sentenced-21-months-prison

    Carlos Danger cries like a cuck before being sent off to prison. Well this is one thing Hillary & Huma have in common.....uncontrollable hisbands w insane libidos....

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Thank you for that link. The court artist’s rendering of Weiner crying is priceless.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Harry Baldwin

    Weiner process - sexting leading to crying and then jail

    Wiener Process - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_process

    Society indulges the former and forgets the genius of the latter.

  180. @Harry Baldwin
    @Neoconned

    Thank you for that link. The court artist's rendering of Weiner crying is priceless.

    Replies: @Ivy

    Weiner process – sexting leading to crying and then jail

    Wiener Process – https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_process

    Society indulges the former and forgets the genius of the latter.

  181. From the wiki:

    “Today, the vast majority of Persian Jews live in Israel and the United States, especially in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills and on the North Shore of Long Island. According to the latest Iranian census, the remaining Jewish population of Iran was 8,756 in 2012.”

    If your goal is to reduce the status of the Jews of America to that of the few dwindling Jews of Iran, who live in constant fear of being accused of being Israeli spies, then , pardon my French, but F. U. I’ll take my chances on pogroms before I will live like that for one minute. I don’t believe for an instant that you have the best interests of Jews in mind when you pronounce these phony “warnings”. You are just a plain old fashioned anti-Semite. As for being the guy who will cut your throat the minute you turn your back, that sounds like projection to me. The fact that you lie so readily about the status of Jews in Iran proves your bad faith.

    Lol, it’s a running joke around here how global Jewry can’t get those 9k Jews to leave Iran. Talk about shitty optics. Yes, most Iranian Jews would rather live in the USA than in Iran. Most Iranians would rather live in the USA than in Iran. Most Jews would rather live in the USA than in Israel. Most Jews would rather live in the Eurosphere diaspora than in Israel, and in fact do. So what?

    You know my position, if you’ve been paying attention: I want for Whites what Jews have in Israel. Naturally that gets Jewish Supremacist hackles up; reciprocity BAD.

  182. As for being the guy who will cut your throat the minute you turn your back, that sounds like projection to me.

    Well, with the caveat that I obviously meant it in an abstract or symbolic sense, yes, absolutely, I’m the guy who would cut Jews’ throat and take their crown if they turned their backs on me. Damn straight I would. I have a Yiddische kopf.

    Now, you were saying something about lying and bad faith?

  183. P.S., Jack, your advice on how to get Jews on-side still stands at bumpkiss, zero, zilch. As it stands, it seems like tacit agreement that there’s no way to skin that cat.

    There’s an awful lot of intermarrying going on. How Jewish will Zuckerberg’s daughter feel?

    I’ve dealt with that subject and its intersection with ethnocentrism here many times. Use the search function. TL;DR: “intermarriage” question doesn’t say what you think it says.

  184. You are just a plain old fashioned anti-Semite.

    A long, proud, storied tradition that I willingly accept. I could name names, but g**gle would probably give you a much more comprehensive list than I could, without a lot of work (maybe; g**gle’s really gone to scheisse over the last few years). Though these days I prefer “countersemite.”

  185. Jack D:

    People like Goldberg are not stupid, they are just very misguided. The goal of American white nationalists should be (IMHO) to get people like Goldberg (like Stephen Miller) playing for Team America and not to expel them. WNs make the same mistake with Jews that Hillary made with blue collar whites – you don’t win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways.

    Also Jack D:

    If your goal is to reduce the status of the Jews of America to that of the few dwindling Jews of Iran, who live in constant fear of being accused of being Israeli spies, then , pardon my French, but F. U. I’ll take my chances on pogroms before I will live like that for one minute. I don’t believe for an instant that you have the best interests of Jews in mind when you pronounce these phony “warnings”. You are just a plain old fashioned anti-Semite. As for being the guy who will cut your throat the minute you turn your back, that sounds like projection to me. The fact that you lie so readily about the status of Jews in Iran proves your bad faith.

    Jack, Jack, Jack! You won’t win people over by denouncing them until they see the wrongness of their ways!

  186. What I’d prefer and what I think will work seldom overlap. I’d prefer Jews get their minds right and clean up their own back yard, all by themselves. Problem solved. Gosh, that isn’t very pogrommy or antisemitic or deplorable, but darn it, it’s my preference.

    But sitting patiently and waiting for them to do that, or pretending anyone’s going to persuade them to do that without some serious pressure, is just stupid.

    How much pressure Jews will require is up to them. I assume it’ll be something this side of pogroms or expulsion, but getting their minds right isn’t a goal that’s up for negotiation.

  187. @FLgeezer
    @Neoconned

    Isn't the entire populace already in Noo Yawk and Orlando?

    Replies: @FX Enderby

    Don’t forget Noo Joisy. I’ve lived near,worked with,been friends with and (when younger) dated PRs. They could have been assimilated if not for the rest of the Latin American tidal wave.

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