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From the Anti-Defamation League’s “Murder and Extremism in the U.S., 2021” report:

Albuquerque, New Mexico, May 12, 2021: In an unusual incident, four alleged members of the New Mexico Aryan Brotherhood were involved in a shootout among themselves inside a vehicle. Three of the people involved, Michael Edward Sanchez, Brandon Torres and James Fisher, died of gunshot wounds. The lone survivor, Richard Kuykendall, has been arrested, though so far only on a weapons charge.

I dunno for sure, but it kinda sounds like the New Mexico Aryan Brotherhood Crisis is taking care of itself.

Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames? Reminds me of the California white supremacist / Hispanic prison gang named, inclusively, the Nazi Low Riders.

This Real Clear Investigations article makes an old but good point: the ADL tends to count all crimes committed by white cons who’d been in a white prison gang as white extremism, even when they are just shooting their white cousin or whatever, while ignoring almost all the many crimes committed by guys who have been in black and Latino prison gangs:

The ADL Murder Report That Cried ‘White Supremacist’

By James Varney, RealClearInvestigations
May 26, 2022

 
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  1. A shootout inside a vehicle?! It’s amazing even one guy survived.

    Yeah, the ADL are a bunch of liars. What’s new?

    • Agree: WJ
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Mod. first you say, the shootout inside a car is amazing, then you say what's new?. - You could have connected the dots here and - thunk twice (or is it thanked twice -'Ill go with this one here (= think, thank, thunk - with regard to the host, that is, hehe: He'd better be thanked for this one, I mean!).

    And this here tooo. I mean- these are two very densly written lines and the joke that - springs off of 'em is dry like prison hell, to take this meta-grammatical (=metaphorical) off-ramp here.... So: Good day again, Mod.!


    Reminds me of the California white supremacist / Hispanic prison gang named, inclusively, the Nazi Low Riders.
     
    , @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Yeah, the ADL are a bunch of liars. What’s new?
     
    What's new is that the Press and Big Tech farm out the definition of "white supremacist" and "right wing hate" and "right wing terrorism" to the "experts" at the ADL. So when the ADL says "Achmed E. Newman is a white supremacist right wing terrorist" they print just that, or remove posts from "Achmed E. Newman," or ban posts favorable to Achmed E. Newman's views.

    Even newer is that the Federal Government, through its law enforcement agencies, is using the ADL's slanders as the basis of allocation of law enforcement priorities. It's now Jonathan Greenblatt whispering into the ear of the FBI "go get Achmed E. Newman."

    Replies: @meh, @Achmed E. Newman

  2. Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?

    Mexicans are doing the jobs white Americans refuse to do.

    • LOL: guest007, Right_On
    • Replies: @guest007
    @JimDandy

    La Raza Republicans like Jeb Bush would be overjoyed with the idea that Latino immigrants are doing to low level crime that white Americans refuse to do.

    , @Joe Magarac
    @JimDandy


    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?
     
    Serious answer OK? Aside from whatever the ADL is peddling?

    Among underclass types "Nazi" imagery has connotations of edgy defiance with only a weak correlation with historical ideologies.

    There is also implicitly a tactical alliance of Whites and Mexicans underclasses when it comes to confronting ... ahem ... African Americans. And this is not just about professional criminals, it's a social class thing.

    The alliance of "Peoples Of Color" (sometimes explicitly including Jews) is strictly for academic leftists, elites and Democrat apparatchiks.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Truth

    , @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy

    My lone hope for America--well beyond getting to "separation"--is the potential decline of Jewish cultural/attitudinal influence in the new Latinoized dump truck America.

    Jews have basically used blacks as their hammer. Both the black experience as their oppression narrative for delegitimization of the American nation, and as a vote bank.

    But Latinos don't much care about blacks. Aren't impressed by all the crying. And they aren't immigration zealots either. Like most non-psychotic people, immigration wise they care about themselves--their immigration was by definition good--and their relatives ... but that's about it. They actually came to America because it was better--more peaceful and prosperous--than where they came from, and absent a mental pathology, have no particular desire to wreck it.

    As relative Jewish numbers/influence decline, political and cultural attitudes should get better--certainly more sane. And hopefully--along with Latino disdain for blacks--this is enough to hold off the Jews' pathological immigrationism to keep us from downloading Steve's "World's Most Important Graph".


    Of course, we'll still be a giant mediocre Latinoized dump truck. A shadow of what America could have, should have been. And the Chinese--zooming ahead technologically--may just finish us off with some bioengineered bug. Still relative to what we see now ... "hope".

    Replies: @JimDandy

  3. I’ve read that Hitler is still fairly popular in Mexico. Meanwhile, Argentina and Chile have pretty much gone PC and Woke.

  4. Pixo says:

    Blood in Blood Out and American Me both tell the stories of white men struggling to be accepted by their Mexican prison gang.

    They weren’t big hits but were in heavy rotation on HBO when I was a kid.

    In one movie the white member of the Hispanic gang is a Croat, in the other he’s half hispanic but has a slavic surname and blond hair blue eyes.

  5. Aryan Brotherhood Crisis is taking care of itself.

    Solution for Aryan Brotherhood Crisis is more Aryan Brotherhood? Sounds like Operation Fast and Furious.

  6. Steve’s missing a great opportunity here for another of his famous laws, like Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings…

    Sailer’s Law of Neo-Nazi Killings:

    If a neo-Nazi group shoots each other, they are real white supremacists. If they shoot another ethnic group, they are just paramilitary types who like dangerous-looking tattoos.

  7. In prison, people band together by race. If you’re going to call the members of the white gang white supremacists, you should similarly identify members of the black and Latino gangs.

    There was an interesting National Geographic documentary on the Aryan Brotherhood. One of the members said that the racial element was overstated and that the Aryan Brotherhood cooperated with the Crips and Bloods on matters of mutual interest such as smuggling drugs into the prison.

    There was a Key & Peele sketch where Key is in prison and tries to join the Aryan Brotherhood under the impression it’s the gang for guys with shaved heads.

    https://www.cc.com/video/z3c79i/key-peele-prison-gangs

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin

    LOL at the video. Thanks, Harry.

    , @al gore rhythms
    @Harry Baldwin

    In prisons that are overwhelmingly white, do people still feel the need to bunch together according to race, I wonder?

    If not, then whites deserve to have their racial affiliations in prison treated more leniently, seeing as it is not something we do when given the choice.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  8. @Harry Baldwin
    In prison, people band together by race. If you're going to call the members of the white gang white supremacists, you should similarly identify members of the black and Latino gangs.

    There was an interesting National Geographic documentary on the Aryan Brotherhood. One of the members said that the racial element was overstated and that the Aryan Brotherhood cooperated with the Crips and Bloods on matters of mutual interest such as smuggling drugs into the prison.

    There was a Key & Peele sketch where Key is in prison and tries to join the Aryan Brotherhood under the impression it's the gang for guys with shaved heads.

    https://www.cc.com/video/z3c79i/key-peele-prison-gangs

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @al gore rhythms

    LOL at the video. Thanks, Harry.

  9. Are there any White gangs left in the USA?

    Other than the White biker gangs, I can’t think of any groups.

    Even the bikers seem to be struggling to recruit young men. Most of the guys in the Waco shootout looked like they were in their 40s and 50s.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I looked through a giant list of Southern California gangs 10 or 15 years ago. The only white gang listed in L.A. was Armenian Power. The nearest white gang was in Hemet, which is the furthest place in the Inland Empire.

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Corvinus

    , @guest007
    @JohnnyWalker123

    There were many Hispanic surnames among those arrested for the Waco shootout.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pee+wee+herman+and+biker+gang&view=detail&mid=C0086C5FF95FEB111421C0086C5FF95FEB111421&FORM=VIRE

    Or this biker gang?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  10. White prison gang.

    Jewish man lectures White man on issues of race, crime, and urban unrest.

  11. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:

    This Real Clear Investigations article makes an old but good point: the ADL tends to count all crimes committed by white cons who’d been in a white prison gang as white extremism, even when they are just shooting their white cousin or whatever, while ignoring almost all the many crimes committed by guys who have been in black and Latino prison gangs:

    Does the ADL have a genocidal agenda against Whites? This kind of stuff seems malicious.

    • Agree: al gore rhythms
    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @Anonymous

    Didn't that ADL fella have a chart on his wall tracking the declining White share of the population in the US and the rising foreign born population in Europe? Of course immigration advocacy is all about love and humanitarianism, in no way is it driven by genocidal hatred of Europeans.

    Replies: @bomag, @Richard B

  12. @Achmed E. Newman
    A shootout inside a vehicle?! It's amazing even one guy survived.

    Yeah, the ADL are a bunch of liars. What's new?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Mod. first you say, the shootout inside a car is amazing, then you say what’s new?. – You could have connected the dots here and – thunk twice (or is it thanked twice -‘Ill go with this one here (= think, thank, thunk – with regard to the host, that is, hehe: He’d better be thanked for this one, I mean!).

    And this here tooo. I mean- these are two very densly written lines and the joke that – springs off of ’em is dry like prison hell, to take this meta-grammatical (=metaphorical) off-ramp here…. So: Good day again, Mod.!

    Reminds me of the California white supremacist / Hispanic prison gang named, inclusively, the Nazi Low Riders.

  13. The lone survivor, Richard Kuykendall…

    My childhood best friend had neighbors with that surname. I was startled at first when he called them the Kikes. But that’s how you say it.

    What’s the ADL’S reaction to it?

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think that is who you end up with when you admit Norwegian immigrants?

    President Trump wanted to give preference to immigrants from Norway, but I am not so sure about that!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    , @anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    In the '90's I played basketball with a guy named Kuykendahl. He said to me, "I'm a black guy with a white guy's name."

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  14. New York City FC had a Latino Nazi “problem”: https://yankees161.wordpress.com/

  15. Albuquerque, New Mexico, May 12, 2021: In an unusual incident, four alleged members of the New Mexico Aryan Brotherhood were involved in a shootout among themselves inside a vehicle.

    They don’t seem too clear on the whole “Drive-by Shooting” concept.

    Point the guns OUT of the car.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    @Mr. Anon

    Sounds like a Tarantino flick.

    , @Anon7
    @Mr. Anon

    Indeed, you can even hang out of the car:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvCBXNgcjXo

  16. None of those prison gangs are as effective a gang as the ADL.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @guest007
    @Mr. Anon

    Remember the quote from The Godfather:

    “One lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns ...”

  17. You wanna’ talk about racial affiliated extremism? Let’s start with the neo-cons and their agenda against Russia, a violent fixation that poses a threat to the entire world. And it does have a strong racial component. Just consider the case of the three little shi*s Crystal, Boot and Frum. That’s a bullying, supremacist gang in my book, and they are far more destructive than any loose affiliation of drug dealing ex-cons. Get real, ADL.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Daniel H


    Let’s start with the neo-cons and their agenda against Russia, a violent fixation that poses a threat to the entire world
     
    I think you’re on the wrong Unz thread. The old fart Sailer supports NATO and the globalist cabal against Russia.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

  18. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are there any White gangs left in the USA?

    Other than the White biker gangs, I can't think of any groups.

    Even the bikers seem to be struggling to recruit young men. Most of the guys in the Waco shootout looked like they were in their 40s and 50s.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noyf0MmEvNE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9guXPUzKk

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @guest007, @Inquiring Mind

    I looked through a giant list of Southern California gangs 10 or 15 years ago. The only white gang listed in L.A. was Armenian Power. The nearest white gang was in Hemet, which is the furthest place in the Inland Empire.

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
    @Steve Sailer

    But are Armenians REALLY white?

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum, @AndrewR, @RadicalCenter

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “I looked through a giant list of Southern California gangs 10 or 15 years ago. The only white gang listed in L.A. was Armenian Power”

    https://www.laalmanac.com/crime/cr03v.php

    This source from above (2005) shows 11 white gangs and 16 stoner gangs (usually teenagers of various races/ethnicities, who listen to metal or gothic music).

    Of course, Russian gangs had infiltrated So Cal in the 1990s (source —>
    https://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc0604/article_580.shtml

    https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/publications/org_crime2005.pdf

    From the above source (2005)—> The Aryan Brotherhood (AB) is one of the largest white prison gangs within CDCR that has not only demonstrated its violence and viciousness but also the ability to be organized. The gang was formed in San Quentin State Prison in the mid-1960s to provide protection for white inmates from the African-American and Hispanic gangs, which had larger numbers. Some AB members support a white supremacist maxim, while some have embraced symbols such as the swastika, lightening bolts, and/or a three-leaf clover with the numbers 666 and/or the letters AB inside of it.

    The Nazi Low Riders (NLR) is a white prison gang that originated during the 1970s inside a California Youth Authority facility. NLR members associate with other white gangs such as Peckerwoods, Public Enemy Number One, and the AB. During the early part of NLR’s existence, most members aspired to someday join AB’s membership. However, the NLR has since become its own gang with its own identity. The NLR is still an active prison gang; however, they have been in a continual state of change in leadership

    Replies: @Alden

  19. Anon[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames? Reminds me of the California white supremacist / Hispanic prison gang named, inclusively, the Nazi Low Riders.

    Steve, perhaps we should ask this question instead:

    “Are there so few Spanish brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Anglo surnames, and are identifying as Aryans?”

    After all, Hispanics were there first, have probably always been the majority, and they never called themselves Aryan before the arrival of the Anglos.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Anon


    After all, Hispanics were there first, have probably always been the majority, and they never called themselves Aryan before the arrival of the Anglos.
     
    I doubt this is the case that Hispanics have always been the majority in New Mexico. There were Indians there (Pueblos), then Conquistadors, and then European settlers. I don't think a substantial Mexican population arrived until the advent of ranching and farming and irrigation there which drew them for work. Sure, it was part of Old Mexico for under two decades, but I don't think the Old Mexicans did much with the place, and it being a lot of arid desert without irrigation it wasn't particularly hospitable for human habitation.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Anon, @AceDeuce

  20. @JimDandy
    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?

    Mexicans are doing the jobs white Americans refuse to do.

    Replies: @guest007, @Joe Magarac, @AnotherDad

    La Raza Republicans like Jeb Bush would be overjoyed with the idea that Latino immigrants are doing to low level crime that white Americans refuse to do.

  21. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are there any White gangs left in the USA?

    Other than the White biker gangs, I can't think of any groups.

    Even the bikers seem to be struggling to recruit young men. Most of the guys in the Waco shootout looked like they were in their 40s and 50s.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noyf0MmEvNE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9guXPUzKk

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @guest007, @Inquiring Mind

    There were many Hispanic surnames among those arrested for the Waco shootout.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @guest007

    The Waco shootout resulted in 0 convictions according to the New York Times. Apparently it was all a police setup that completely failed to do anything they planned.

    It is hard to tell though because no evidence got presented and challenged and nobody in the press wants to embarrass the police any more than they already embarrassed themselves. It's unsportsmanlike piling on or something I guess.

    This story from February 2022 is quite fascinating.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/magazine/waco-biker-shootout.html

    Replies: @guest007

  22. Anonymous[639] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H
    You wanna' talk about racial affiliated extremism? Let's start with the neo-cons and their agenda against Russia, a violent fixation that poses a threat to the entire world. And it does have a strong racial component. Just consider the case of the three little shi*s Crystal, Boot and Frum. That's a bullying, supremacist gang in my book, and they are far more destructive than any loose affiliation of drug dealing ex-cons. Get real, ADL.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Let’s start with the neo-cons and their agenda against Russia, a violent fixation that poses a threat to the entire world

    I think you’re on the wrong Unz thread. The old fart Sailer supports NATO and the globalist cabal against Russia.

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Anonymous

    Lets wait for monkey pox reaction..

  23. @Mr. Anon
    None of those prison gangs are as effective a gang as the ADL.

    Replies: @guest007

    Remember the quote from The Godfather:

    “One lawyer with a briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns …”

    • Agree: Meretricious
  24. Steve, I know you’ll be proud to know that Australia now has an indigenous Supreme Court judge!

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/nation-s-first-indigenous-supreme-court-judge-defies-the-naysayers-20220527-p5ap1t.html

    They said we couldn’t do it but Oz proved all the naysayers wrong!

    Just like we’ll soon have our own pretend landing on the moon with real fake footage just like the Yanks did!

    If there’s one thing you’ve got to love about life it’s the non-stop rollout of fake heroes, for fake causes which will always constitute real news.

    Crowley is an ancient Indigenous surname meaning: man who came from crawling snake sweaty socks aka Scots.

    Just a tip, Steve, as I know you’re always very concerned to ensure that only the Irish be referred with racial denigration via epithets, it’s not “actually” ok to refer to Abos as Abos:

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/blak-black-blackfulla-language-is-important-but-it-can-be-tricky-20210826-p58lzg.html

    It’s kinda like calling your favourite people a bike, without the b but a k. Or a nagger the same but with an i.

    I’m not telling you what to say, just letting you know.

    I don’t care what anyone calls anybody, I just take notes.

    So here’s to the Blackfellas on this Indiginous Round where Barramadda beat Canberra

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    I wish Steve were far more conservative when he comes to declaring other people as worthy recipients of our nations, he's very much easy going on our racial enemies.

    I wish Steve had some gumption, stood for something, a principle, us, a sort of people, something worth dying for;

    I wish Steve had something more declarative for people to understand and collect behind.

    It's up to him.

    For all the HBD, who are we and what are we worth?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quou6o05g5A&list=RDEM9ld9bWBfT1X1Eg6uztmVrA&index=7

  25. @Reg Cæsar

    The lone survivor, Richard Kuykendall...
     
    My childhood best friend had neighbors with that surname. I was startled at first when he called them the Kikes. But that's how you say it.


    What's the ADL'S reaction to it?

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @anonymous

    I think that is who you end up with when you admit Norwegian immigrants?

    President Trump wanted to give preference to immigrants from Norway, but I am not so sure about that!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Inquiring Mind

    Kuykendall is a New Netherland name. Doesn't mean it can't be Norwegian; after all, the Bronx is named for a Swede.


    President Trump wanted to give preference to immigrants from Norway, but I am not so sure about that!
     
    The ones you have to watch for are the Frisians.

    E.g.,


    MLB Star Lenny Dykstra Is Nearly Unrecognizable After Prison Time and Multiple Drug Overdoses

    , @Reg Cæsar
  26. @JohnnyWalker123
    Are there any White gangs left in the USA?

    Other than the White biker gangs, I can't think of any groups.

    Even the bikers seem to be struggling to recruit young men. Most of the guys in the Waco shootout looked like they were in their 40s and 50s.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noyf0MmEvNE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9guXPUzKk

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @guest007, @Inquiring Mind

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Inquiring Mind

    https://imgur.com/a/G0OfWnO

  27. Breaking news:

    In the wake of the tragedy in Texas, there has been a shooting in Chattanooga.

    The ethnicity of the Chattanooga multiple shooters is not known.

    Will the contagion of gun violence never end?

  28. How does Sailer’s Law account for lethality in bouncing low-riders?

  29. Sounds as if it was three FBI men and one survivor.

    • Replies: @Dutch Boy
    @dearieme

    Smells like a drug deal dispute (or "drug deal gone bad" as the media might put it). Gangs of all ethnicities deal drugs.

  30. @Pat Hannagan
    Steve, I know you'll be proud to know that Australia now has an indigenous Supreme Court judge!

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/nation-s-first-indigenous-supreme-court-judge-defies-the-naysayers-20220527-p5ap1t.html

    They said we couldn't do it but Oz proved all the naysayers wrong!

    Just like we'll soon have our own pretend landing on the moon with real fake footage just like the Yanks did!

    If there's one thing you've got to love about life it's the non-stop rollout of fake heroes, for fake causes which will always constitute real news.

    Crowley is an ancient Indigenous surname meaning: man who came from crawling snake sweaty socks aka Scots.

    Just a tip, Steve, as I know you're always very concerned to ensure that only the Irish be referred with racial denigration via epithets, it's not "actually" ok to refer to Abos as Abos:

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/blak-black-blackfulla-language-is-important-but-it-can-be-tricky-20210826-p58lzg.html

    It's kinda like calling your favourite people a bike, without the b but a k. Or a nagger the same but with an i.

    I'm not telling you what to say, just letting you know.

    I don't care what anyone calls anybody, I just take notes.

    So here's to the Blackfellas on this Indiginous Round where Barramadda beat Canberra

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1baOxLwccB8

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan

    I wish Steve were far more conservative when he comes to declaring other people as worthy recipients of our nations, he’s very much easy going on our racial enemies.

    I wish Steve had some gumption, stood for something, a principle, us, a sort of people, something worth dying for;

    I wish Steve had something more declarative for people to understand and collect behind.

    It’s up to him.

    For all the HBD, who are we and what are we worth?

  31. Don’t forget the acute hepatitis spreading among children….the bio -weapon /”vaccine” guys have been busy ,helped along with Bill’s billions….they are going to get their socialist terror state ,built on viruses and “vaccines”.

  32. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I looked through a giant list of Southern California gangs 10 or 15 years ago. The only white gang listed in L.A. was Armenian Power. The nearest white gang was in Hemet, which is the furthest place in the Inland Empire.

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Corvinus

    But are Armenians REALLY white?

    • Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum
    @OFWHAP

    Armenians. They are undoubtly Aryan and Caucasian. Whiteness is another matter altogether.

    I have yet to see a white Aryan without them being Angloindian Eurasian or somethin like that.

    , @AndrewR
    @OFWHAP

    They're California white

    , @RadicalCenter
    @OFWHAP

    Not as white European as many Turks.

  33. @JimDandy
    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?

    Mexicans are doing the jobs white Americans refuse to do.

    Replies: @guest007, @Joe Magarac, @AnotherDad

    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?

    Serious answer OK? Aside from whatever the ADL is peddling?

    Among underclass types “Nazi” imagery has connotations of edgy defiance with only a weak correlation with historical ideologies.

    There is also implicitly a tactical alliance of Whites and Mexicans underclasses when it comes to confronting … ahemAfrican Americans. And this is not just about professional criminals, it’s a social class thing.

    The alliance of “Peoples Of Color” (sometimes explicitly including Jews) is strictly for academic leftists, elites and Democrat apparatchiks.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Joe Magarac

    Yeah, what I was saying.

    , @Truth
    @Joe Magarac

    In Western US prisons, yes, the Mexicans and Whites have an unspoken agreement to support each other in riots against blacks...

    But:

    EVERYONE ELSE in the prison (known as the others) fights WITH the Crips and Bloods in the matter of a race war. If Twinkie and Malla are in prison hanging with the multicultural table and the order comes down that we are in a race war, T-Spoon and Lil' Big Maan are their Comrades in Arms, if they do not, their own commander would probably shank them in the necks.

    The reason being that the White Nationalists and Mexican Mafia gangs are Blood-oriented, and an Asian, Arab or Indian is automatically an enemy for not being Mexican or white, conversely, most west coast "others" are in loose alliances on the streets with black gangs before they go in. Not that it will all be peaches and cream.

  34. OT

    Is this not the quintessential image/metaphor for life among Negroes in urban America?

    https://nypost.com/2022/05/29/person-on-nyc-subway-grabs-womans-hair-shouts-obscenities/

  35. “White supremacists” have long been heavily hispanic and italian. White is a BS category.

  36. Feature article in today’s NYT about Lia Thomas and transgender athletes. It’s quite fair and unbiased.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/29/us/lia-thomas-women-sports.html

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    @prosa123

    Select all and copy quick, then paste into a text editor.

    , @JimDandy
    @prosa123

    I don't have time to read it, but it's fair and unbiased? Really? It basically says, "The idea of men competing against women in sports is totally fucking retarded and anyone who thinks otherwise should be sterilized"? Really? That's awesome!

    , @Russ
    @prosa123


    Feature article in today’s NYT about Lia Thomas and transgender athletes. It’s quite fair and unbiased.

     

    That would be WilliamThomas. No need to acquiesce to the demand to eschew the "dead name" -- especially when the member at the root of the "death" is apparently standing at attention in the locker room amidst the distaff Penn teammates, all cowed into the 21st-century equivalent of barefoot/pregnant/in the kitchen by threats of cancellation if they observe the obvious.
  37. @Achmed E. Newman
    A shootout inside a vehicle?! It's amazing even one guy survived.

    Yeah, the ADL are a bunch of liars. What's new?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Yeah, the ADL are a bunch of liars. What’s new?

    What’s new is that the Press and Big Tech farm out the definition of “white supremacist” and “right wing hate” and “right wing terrorism” to the “experts” at the ADL. So when the ADL says “Achmed E. Newman is a white supremacist right wing terrorist” they print just that, or remove posts from “Achmed E. Newman,” or ban posts favorable to Achmed E. Newman’s views.

    Even newer is that the Federal Government, through its law enforcement agencies, is using the ADL’s slanders as the basis of allocation of law enforcement priorities. It’s now Jonathan Greenblatt whispering into the ear of the FBI “go get Achmed E. Newman.”

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @meh
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    What’s new is that the Press and Big Tech farm out the definition of “white supremacist” and “right wing hate” and “right wing terrorism” to the “experts” at the ADL. So when the ADL says “Achmed E. Newman is a white supremacist right wing terrorist” they print just that, or remove posts from “Achmed E. Newman,” or ban posts favorable to Achmed E. Newman’s views.

    Even newer is that the Federal Government, through its law enforcement agencies, is using the ADL’s slanders as the basis of allocation of law enforcement priorities. It’s now Jonathan Greenblatt whispering into the ear of the FBI “go get Achmed E. Newman.”
     
    None of this is new.

    ADL has been doing some variation of this since it was founded to defend a dead pedophile, although this kind of "ADL as official definer of terms" for mass media was probably formalized in the 1960s.

    Newspapers, radio and TV were following the ADL lead on this long before online social media started doing so. There was a brief period prior to about 2016-2017 when social media wasn't simply following ADL instructions, but since then ADL has simply had to put you on a list and you lost your YouTube channel or whatever.

    ADL training and manipulation of law enforcement goes back at least to the 1980s or 1990s, when I first started paying attention to such things. I would not be surprised if it was going on far earlier than that.

    The only difference now is that Jonathan Greenblatt is very blatant about what he is doing, whereas his predecessors were more subtle.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    I take your point, Alec. The ADL and the $PLC have been unofficial lyin' stats arms of the Feral Gov't for a long while.

    However, you are right indeed that the new cancellation stuff out of Big "TECH" is worse than what has gone on before.

    Any anti-"LOLbertarian" that keeps coming up with that bullshit had better think what giving all this power to Feral Gov't agencies has wrought. The US Gov't has not been on our side in a long, long time. Big "TECH" does the US Gov't's bidding, and vice versa.

  38. @Anon

    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames? Reminds me of the California white supremacist / Hispanic prison gang named, inclusively, the Nazi Low Riders.
     
    Steve, perhaps we should ask this question instead:


    "Are there so few Spanish brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Anglo surnames, and are identifying as Aryans?"

    After all, Hispanics were there first, have probably always been the majority, and they never called themselves Aryan before the arrival of the Anglos.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    After all, Hispanics were there first, have probably always been the majority, and they never called themselves Aryan before the arrival of the Anglos.

    I doubt this is the case that Hispanics have always been the majority in New Mexico. There were Indians there (Pueblos), then Conquistadors, and then European settlers. I don’t think a substantial Mexican population arrived until the advent of ranching and farming and irrigation there which drew them for work. Sure, it was part of Old Mexico for under two decades, but I don’t think the Old Mexicans did much with the place, and it being a lot of arid desert without irrigation it wasn’t particularly hospitable for human habitation.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    He probably means Aztec descended amerindians and a few mestizos. The term Hispanic is both intentionally misleading and doesn't make any sense in this context anyway. Aztecs never got north of the Rio Grande before the arrival of Europeans. Anon is merely employing the standard gaslighting of the American Southwest.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Anon
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Lol @ denying factual history.

    You don't need agriculture or irrigation to populate an arid region, and in fact that's the least effective way to do it. Most of the Hispanics in Mexico were ciboleros (buffalo hunters), goat herders and cattle or horse ranchers. New Mexico has enough grassland and big game to support millions of people. 1 goat needs less than a tenth of an acre of grassland and will produce a gallon of milk a day. Those Mexicans were hunting big game, eating meat and cheese not doing agricultural work. There's no irrigation in New Mexico and it isn't even a farming state today, it's a cattle ranching state. Anglo settlement in New Mexico reduced the Mexican share of the population by exterminating the buffalo and stealing all the grassland.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    After all, Hispanics were there first
     
    So the "stolen land" trope doesn't apply to Hispanics?

    Replies: @Anon

  39. I find that the practice of automatically labeling ‘mass’ shooters (I believe any shooting where there are more than four shootee’s) as being mentally deranged and putting them into a separate category is a bit odd in that it implies that shooters who shoot fewer shootees are somehow sane. Why not just say they are all mentally f***** up? To me even trying to shoot one person for reasons other than self defense is deranged whether it is out of jealousy, hate, greed, or dissing someone’s social status. Perhaps it is more of a legal definition for trying or sentencing but I thought I would throw that into the ring.

    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    @Prof. Woland

    As someone once said, "Quantity has a quality all its own."
    The difference between
    1) shooting the man who raped one's sister, and
    2) shooting twenty kindergartners
    is one of category, not merely degree.

  40. Ethan, an American, and Hila, an Israeli, first met at the Holocaust memorial Yad Vashem in Israel in 2007; Ethan was on his Birthright Israel trip, while Hila was serving in the Israel Defense Forces.[50] They married in 2012.[51] During the early years of their YouTube career, they lived together in Israel.[2] They have two sons, Theodore, who was born in June 2019, and Bruce, who was born in February 2022.[51][52][53]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H3h3Productions

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Joe Stalin

    Some hasbara don't wear masks. Pretty funny, though. As of late, he couldn't be doing a better job of discrediting and embarrassing his masters. (And mistress.)

  41. With brotherhood like that who needs hatred?

  42. Claim of 30,150 KIA; 60.3% of Putin Dead Russkie allocation.

    Ukrainians complaining about Germany not handing over weapons.

    Pirates!

    https://twitter.com/YorukIsik/status/1530267044112961537

  43. @Mr. Anon

    Albuquerque, New Mexico, May 12, 2021: In an unusual incident, four alleged members of the New Mexico Aryan Brotherhood were involved in a shootout among themselves inside a vehicle.
     
    They don't seem too clear on the whole "Drive-by Shooting" concept.

    Point the guns OUT of the car.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @Anon7

    Sounds like a Tarantino flick.

  44. @prosa123
    Feature article in today's NYT about Lia Thomas and transgender athletes. It's quite fair and unbiased.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/29/us/lia-thomas-women-sports.html

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @JimDandy, @Russ

    Select all and copy quick, then paste into a text editor.

  45. @prosa123
    Feature article in today's NYT about Lia Thomas and transgender athletes. It's quite fair and unbiased.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/29/us/lia-thomas-women-sports.html

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @JimDandy, @Russ

    I don’t have time to read it, but it’s fair and unbiased? Really? It basically says, “The idea of men competing against women in sports is totally fucking retarded and anyone who thinks otherwise should be sterilized”? Really? That’s awesome!

  46. @Mr. Anon

    Albuquerque, New Mexico, May 12, 2021: In an unusual incident, four alleged members of the New Mexico Aryan Brotherhood were involved in a shootout among themselves inside a vehicle.
     
    They don't seem too clear on the whole "Drive-by Shooting" concept.

    Point the guns OUT of the car.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @Anon7

    Indeed, you can even hang out of the car:

  47. The Biden Regency is fighting a three front war:

    A. Against Russia in Ukraine to basically kill most of its military age population via fighting in Ukraine*

    B. Against China in fighting off its inevitable seizure of Taiwan, which will involve massive naval / air / missile battles all across the Western and Eastern Pacific (China no kidding has a new base on Guadalcanal).

    C. Against White guys at home. As the KKKrazy Glue that can hold together TERFS and trannies, blacks and Asians, etc.

    This three front war is the result of the Regency being impressively stupid, stupid at a whole new level, actually believing Russia and China are just supersized Iraq or Libya, and believing Wakanda Forever and Captain Marvel will easily crush those two.

    *The Ukranian Army is basically done. What remains is getting captured or killed in the East. The “migrants” who have Ukranian citizenship from places like Kashmir will not and have not fought for it, preferring to flee to Poland. Europe has not enough young White men to fight and their Muslims and Africans are not going to fight for Ukraine. That leaves the US with a rapidly diminishing pool of young White men to fight in Ukraine for the attrition strategy to work. Given that weapons do not fire themselves and modern systems require high levels of IQ and training to deploy and use them effectively in combat.

    Meanwhile both Russia and China are not hampered by weapons development requiring Affirmative Action people at every level to spread out the gravy and boss around White guys. Talented White engineers basically don’t exist anymore, they could not get into college and are working at Starbucks or some other downwardly mobile occupation. The cost of Affirmative Action is loss of decisive weapons systems against near peer adversaries.

    The long fights against primitive enemies who were basically illiterate goat herders on motorbikes has corrupted the Military Industrial Complex into thinking that: A. the systems we have are and always will be decisive, B. we will always have an endless supply of Special Forces dudes fighting against non-White goat herders and that will be sufficient, not very large deployments of regular military in battles of annihilation which characterized most of Western Warfare.

    Russia and China have massive advantages over us. They don’t have Affirnative Action, they don’t have the need to demonize their White male or Han Chinese Male populations as evil to keep their political / social coalitions together, and they can deploy more high IQ and more highly motivated regular military people than we can. They certainly can deploy newer / better weapons at a higher cadence than we can as we emphasize having enough blacks on the team and IN CHARGE rather than newer / better weapons faster.

    A self-aware and competent Military Industrial Complex would have called off war on White guys to preserve its strategic advantage but its as addicted to the HATE HATE HATE of White guys as KKKrazy Glue as anyone else — hence this article. You can’t win against Russia and China while making war on the guys you require to fight them. But they really believe in Wakanda and Captain Marvel.

    TLDR, America’s White / Latino fighting forces and their White engineers are too thin and badly motivated to fight for GloboHomo and win.

    • Thanks: Joe Magarac
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Whiskey

    The goat herders in Toyota pickups drove the American army out of Afghanistan.

    , @Truth
    @Whiskey


    Talented White engineers basically don’t exist anymore, they could not get into college and are working at Starbucks or some other downwardly mobile occupation.
     
    Which alternative universe do you live in, again?
  48. Russ says:
    @prosa123
    Feature article in today's NYT about Lia Thomas and transgender athletes. It's quite fair and unbiased.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/29/us/lia-thomas-women-sports.html

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @JimDandy, @Russ

    Feature article in today’s NYT about Lia Thomas and transgender athletes. It’s quite fair and unbiased.

    That would be WilliamThomas. No need to acquiesce to the demand to eschew the “dead name” — especially when the member at the root of the “death” is apparently standing at attention in the locker room amidst the distaff Penn teammates, all cowed into the 21st-century equivalent of barefoot/pregnant/in the kitchen by threats of cancellation if they observe the obvious.

  49. A deadly shootout inside a car reminds of the old cliche, ” a circular firing squad.”

    Anyone familiar with firearms knows just how loud they can be at a range. The big calibers even more so. It would be deafening with multiple shootings.

    I guess the “winner” here (i.e. survivor) will need hearing aids from now on.

    That’s one reason why every media depiction of drive-by shootings are so fake. No one is ever seen wearing ear protection, or safety shooting glasses.

    Instead we are supposed to believe that red hot cartridges ejected hitting everyone inside and 120 decibel bangs are not occurring.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Muggles

    That’s one reason why every media depiction of drive-by shootings are so fake. No one is ever seen wearing ear protection, or safety shooting glasses.


    It is a reasonable presumption that the Venn Diagram overlap between (a) perpetrators of drive-by shootings (b) wearers of eye/ear protection is extremely small.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  50. The Nazi Low Riders are actually defunct now. They were banned from the prison system for trying to overthrow the Aryan Brotherhood. Now they have an ‘inclusive’ prison gang called Dead Man Inc for whites and borderline white types that identify as ‘urban’ or whatnot. There’s a guy, a former shotcaller, on youtube who did 10 years in CA’s prison system named Wes Watson. He explains all this kind of stuff. It’s a very entertaining channel. It’s called GP- Penitentiary Life Wes Watson.

  51. @Muggles
    A deadly shootout inside a car reminds of the old cliche, " a circular firing squad."

    Anyone familiar with firearms knows just how loud they can be at a range. The big calibers even more so. It would be deafening with multiple shootings.

    I guess the "winner" here (i.e. survivor) will need hearing aids from now on.

    That's one reason why every media depiction of drive-by shootings are so fake. No one is ever seen wearing ear protection, or safety shooting glasses.

    Instead we are supposed to believe that red hot cartridges ejected hitting everyone inside and 120 decibel bangs are not occurring.

    Replies: @prosa123

    That’s one reason why every media depiction of drive-by shootings are so fake. No one is ever seen wearing ear protection, or safety shooting glasses.

    It is a reasonable presumption that the Venn Diagram overlap between (a) perpetrators of drive-by shootings (b) wearers of eye/ear protection is extremely small.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @prosa123


    It is a reasonable presumption that the Venn Diagram overlap between (a) perpetrators of drive-by shootings (b) wearers of eye/ear protection is extremely small.
     
    As with rock musicians, they are not concerned with long-term hearing damage. Or long-term anything else.

    Live Fast, Die Young, and Leave a Beautiful Corpse
  52. @Harry Baldwin
    In prison, people band together by race. If you're going to call the members of the white gang white supremacists, you should similarly identify members of the black and Latino gangs.

    There was an interesting National Geographic documentary on the Aryan Brotherhood. One of the members said that the racial element was overstated and that the Aryan Brotherhood cooperated with the Crips and Bloods on matters of mutual interest such as smuggling drugs into the prison.

    There was a Key & Peele sketch where Key is in prison and tries to join the Aryan Brotherhood under the impression it's the gang for guys with shaved heads.

    https://www.cc.com/video/z3c79i/key-peele-prison-gangs

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @al gore rhythms

    In prisons that are overwhelmingly white, do people still feel the need to bunch together according to race, I wonder?

    If not, then whites deserve to have their racial affiliations in prison treated more leniently, seeing as it is not something we do when given the choice.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @al gore rhythms

    Never heard of white supremacist gangs in Jimmy-Cagney-in-prison movies...

  53. @Inquiring Mind
    @JohnnyWalker123

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pee+wee+herman+and+biker+gang&view=detail&mid=C0086C5FF95FEB111421C0086C5FF95FEB111421&FORM=VIRE

    Or this biker gang?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  54. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Anon


    After all, Hispanics were there first, have probably always been the majority, and they never called themselves Aryan before the arrival of the Anglos.
     
    I doubt this is the case that Hispanics have always been the majority in New Mexico. There were Indians there (Pueblos), then Conquistadors, and then European settlers. I don't think a substantial Mexican population arrived until the advent of ranching and farming and irrigation there which drew them for work. Sure, it was part of Old Mexico for under two decades, but I don't think the Old Mexicans did much with the place, and it being a lot of arid desert without irrigation it wasn't particularly hospitable for human habitation.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Anon, @AceDeuce

    He probably means Aztec descended amerindians and a few mestizos. The term Hispanic is both intentionally misleading and doesn’t make any sense in this context anyway. Aztecs never got north of the Rio Grande before the arrival of Europeans. Anon is merely employing the standard gaslighting of the American Southwest.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    Rofl. Mike Tre the high school dropout shows his utter ignorance yet again.

    No, silly I am talking about white European Spaniards who settled New Mexico by the hundreds of thousands, who intermarried with local Indian women. These peopoe were buffalo hunters, cattle ranchers, horse ranchers, goat herders, etc. They were living out there in New Mexico hundreds of years before the Anglos arrived and they were thriving without agriculture or any other European forms of ecologial destruction.

    Also, ignoramus, the Aztec ORIGINATED north of the Rio Grande. The Azteca migrated south in to Mexico from North Texas before they conquered the indigenous Mexicans and started their empire. You're kidding if you think they couldn't cross the Rio Grande after they got civilized and had a vast pyramid-building empire (ooohh... something Anglos weren't doing at the the time).

  55. In northern New Mexico, there are a lot of people of a group claiming purely Spanish ancestry. They do seem to be much fairer, on average, than avowed mestizos. They have little in common, culturally, with the mestizos of the south, and are probably as white as Italian-Americans. I would wager that a lot of them choose the AB over the Hispanic prison gangs, which may not even consider them as prospects. That could explain this.

  56. Anon[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Anon


    After all, Hispanics were there first, have probably always been the majority, and they never called themselves Aryan before the arrival of the Anglos.
     
    I doubt this is the case that Hispanics have always been the majority in New Mexico. There were Indians there (Pueblos), then Conquistadors, and then European settlers. I don't think a substantial Mexican population arrived until the advent of ranching and farming and irrigation there which drew them for work. Sure, it was part of Old Mexico for under two decades, but I don't think the Old Mexicans did much with the place, and it being a lot of arid desert without irrigation it wasn't particularly hospitable for human habitation.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Anon, @AceDeuce

    Lol @ denying factual history.

    You don’t need agriculture or irrigation to populate an arid region, and in fact that’s the least effective way to do it. Most of the Hispanics in Mexico were ciboleros (buffalo hunters), goat herders and cattle or horse ranchers. New Mexico has enough grassland and big game to support millions of people. 1 goat needs less than a tenth of an acre of grassland and will produce a gallon of milk a day. Those Mexicans were hunting big game, eating meat and cheese not doing agricultural work. There’s no irrigation in New Mexico and it isn’t even a farming state today, it’s a cattle ranching state. Anglo settlement in New Mexico reduced the Mexican share of the population by exterminating the buffalo and stealing all the grassland.

  57. Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, the negroes of New York are getting more and more horrible.

    If you’re a White or Asian over the age of 40, do NOT go to New York City unarmed.

    The negroes are all ramped up, there’s no city leadership, the citizens are in a terrified daze, the police are demoralized, so when things go wrong… nobody will help you.

  58. @Inquiring Mind
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think that is who you end up with when you admit Norwegian immigrants?

    President Trump wanted to give preference to immigrants from Norway, but I am not so sure about that!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Kuykendall is a New Netherland name. Doesn’t mean it can’t be Norwegian; after all, the Bronx is named for a Swede.

    President Trump wanted to give preference to immigrants from Norway, but I am not so sure about that!

    The ones you have to watch for are the Frisians.

    E.g.,

    MLB Star Lenny Dykstra Is Nearly Unrecognizable After Prison Time and Multiple Drug Overdoses

  59. @prosa123
    @Muggles

    That’s one reason why every media depiction of drive-by shootings are so fake. No one is ever seen wearing ear protection, or safety shooting glasses.


    It is a reasonable presumption that the Venn Diagram overlap between (a) perpetrators of drive-by shootings (b) wearers of eye/ear protection is extremely small.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It is a reasonable presumption that the Venn Diagram overlap between (a) perpetrators of drive-by shootings (b) wearers of eye/ear protection is extremely small.

    As with rock musicians, they are not concerned with long-term hearing damage. Or long-term anything else.

    Live Fast, Die Young, and Leave a Beautiful Corpse

  60. @Inquiring Mind
    @Reg Cæsar

    I think that is who you end up with when you admit Norwegian immigrants?

    President Trump wanted to give preference to immigrants from Norway, but I am not so sure about that!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

  61. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I looked through a giant list of Southern California gangs 10 or 15 years ago. The only white gang listed in L.A. was Armenian Power. The nearest white gang was in Hemet, which is the furthest place in the Inland Empire.

    Replies: @OFWHAP, @Corvinus

    “I looked through a giant list of Southern California gangs 10 or 15 years ago. The only white gang listed in L.A. was Armenian Power”

    https://www.laalmanac.com/crime/cr03v.php

    This source from above (2005) shows 11 white gangs and 16 stoner gangs (usually teenagers of various races/ethnicities, who listen to metal or gothic music).

    Of course, Russian gangs had infiltrated So Cal in the 1990s (source —>
    https://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc0604/article_580.shtml

    https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/publications/org_crime2005.pdf

    From the above source (2005)—> The Aryan Brotherhood (AB) is one of the largest white prison gangs within CDCR that has not only demonstrated its violence and viciousness but also the ability to be organized. The gang was formed in San Quentin State Prison in the mid-1960s to provide protection for white inmates from the African-American and Hispanic gangs, which had larger numbers. Some AB members support a white supremacist maxim, while some have embraced symbols such as the swastika, lightening bolts, and/or a three-leaf clover with the numbers 666 and/or the letters AB inside of it.

    The Nazi Low Riders (NLR) is a white prison gang that originated during the 1970s inside a California Youth Authority facility. NLR members associate with other white gangs such as Peckerwoods, Public Enemy Number One, and the AB. During the early part of NLR’s existence, most members aspired to someday join AB’s membership. However, the NLR has since become its own gang with its own identity. The NLR is still an active prison gang; however, they have been in a continual state of change in leadership

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Corvinus

    The “ Russian “ gangsters in California aren’t ethnic Russians at all. They are ethnic Jewish White collar and prostitution and drug dealer gangsters. As usual, as always was. Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.

    You lifted your copy and paste comment right from a false lying ADL article in the Los Angeles Jewish Journal. I skim through the Jewish Journal often. Gotta keep tabs on what the enemy’s doing. I know where you find your falsehoods.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus, @Truth

  62. anonymous[215] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The lone survivor, Richard Kuykendall...
     
    My childhood best friend had neighbors with that surname. I was startled at first when he called them the Kikes. But that's how you say it.


    What's the ADL'S reaction to it?

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @anonymous

    In the ’90’s I played basketball with a guy named Kuykendahl. He said to me, “I’m a black guy with a white guy’s name.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    La Griffe du Lion greatly admires the very black president of U. of Maryland, Baltimore County, who is named Freeman Hrabowski. He's says he's just an old time descendant of American slaves who got a Polish name along the way.

    Replies: @Rohirrimborn, @Dutch Boy

  63. @guest007
    @JohnnyWalker123

    There were many Hispanic surnames among those arrested for the Waco shootout.

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    The Waco shootout resulted in 0 convictions according to the New York Times. Apparently it was all a police setup that completely failed to do anything they planned.

    It is hard to tell though because no evidence got presented and challenged and nobody in the press wants to embarrass the police any more than they already embarrassed themselves. It’s unsportsmanlike piling on or something I guess.

    This story from February 2022 is quite fascinating.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/magazine/waco-biker-shootout.html

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @guest007
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    According to wikipedia, the first trial resulted in hung jury. Couple that his a stupid district attorney who was voted out of office. Evidence was presented however,

  64. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “I looked through a giant list of Southern California gangs 10 or 15 years ago. The only white gang listed in L.A. was Armenian Power”

    https://www.laalmanac.com/crime/cr03v.php

    This source from above (2005) shows 11 white gangs and 16 stoner gangs (usually teenagers of various races/ethnicities, who listen to metal or gothic music).

    Of course, Russian gangs had infiltrated So Cal in the 1990s (source —>
    https://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc0604/article_580.shtml

    https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/publications/org_crime2005.pdf

    From the above source (2005)—> The Aryan Brotherhood (AB) is one of the largest white prison gangs within CDCR that has not only demonstrated its violence and viciousness but also the ability to be organized. The gang was formed in San Quentin State Prison in the mid-1960s to provide protection for white inmates from the African-American and Hispanic gangs, which had larger numbers. Some AB members support a white supremacist maxim, while some have embraced symbols such as the swastika, lightening bolts, and/or a three-leaf clover with the numbers 666 and/or the letters AB inside of it.

    The Nazi Low Riders (NLR) is a white prison gang that originated during the 1970s inside a California Youth Authority facility. NLR members associate with other white gangs such as Peckerwoods, Public Enemy Number One, and the AB. During the early part of NLR’s existence, most members aspired to someday join AB’s membership. However, the NLR has since become its own gang with its own identity. The NLR is still an active prison gang; however, they have been in a continual state of change in leadership

    Replies: @Alden

    The “ Russian “ gangsters in California aren’t ethnic Russians at all. They are ethnic Jewish White collar and prostitution and drug dealer gangsters. As usual, as always was. Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.

    You lifted your copy and paste comment right from a false lying ADL article in the Los Angeles Jewish Journal. I skim through the Jewish Journal often. Gotta keep tabs on what the enemy’s doing. I know where you find your falsehoods.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Alden

    Russians in L.A. tend to range from all-Jewish to part-Jewish to not-Jewish-but-has-a-part-Jewish-husband-or-cousin to not Jewish at all. There is often a complicated Israeli connection as well: e.g., born in Israel after Sharon invited in part-Jews from Russia, but the parents got sick of the rabbis complaining they weren't really Jewish (and, to tell the truth, they didn't really like living around all these other Jews because they hadn't been all that Jewish in the Soviet Union), and bounced for America.

    This kind of blurriness is hard for people to hold in their heads, so Russians-in-L.A. don't get written about much in the news media, although screenwriters tend to be fascinated by them.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Corvinus
    @Alden

    “The “ Russian “ gangsters in California aren’t ethnic Russians at all. They are ethnic Jewish White collar and prostitution and drug dealer gangsters. As usual, as always was.”

    So says the women who claims to have read over 200000 books in her lifetime. Undoubtedly there are Jews who are Russian who are involved. But you claiming all or most fit that description. What is this ethnic breakdown? Numbers and percentages, please, with citations.

    “You lifted your copy and paste comment right from a false lying ADL article in the Los Angeles Jewish Journal. I skim through the Jewish Journal often. Gotta keep tabs on what the enemy’s doing. I know where you find your falsehoods.”

    No, I cited all of the sources, including the Los Angeles Almanac, which “has been a unique online reference devoted to providing statistical and narrative information about the people, places and stories that make up the incredible panorama of Los Angeles County. We are not only the first comprehensive almanac for Los Angeles County, but also the first (and as yet only) online almanac focusing exclusively on any major metropolitan area in the world”.

    So please show us this alleged ADL article that the Los Angeles Almanac used. You made the assertion, so please furnish direct evidence.

    Furthermore, I get why you label anyone who opposes your ideology as the “enemy”. It’s much easier intellectually. In that manner, you can dismiss anything that doesn’t conform to your narrative. That’s the look of a bitter, scorned female.

    , @Truth
    @Alden


    Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.
     
    I'm afraid that's incorrect, Armenian Power is an ethnic Armenian group based in Glendale, CA, which is basically West Yerevan, Armenia. And Armenians make up the vast majority, if not all of AP. Armenian power basically became a "Gang" in Hollywood and North Hollywood as the Armenians were getting into rows with Mexican students.

    This is a fact as I knew a few members 15 years ago. They speak Armenian, to each other, as all of their parents make them take it on weekends and Richard Van Gordenheimer is not going to join.

    Replies: @bomag

  65. Whites are only 21 percent if the Ca prison population, Way underrepresented blacks of course way way over represented. And Hispanics just about the same percentage as in the entire population of the state.

    Therefore, Whites the least likely to be criminals, blacks most likely to be criminals. Hispanics in between.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Alden

    What kind of retard reasoning is that?


    These populations aren't equal by age. Hispanics in California are young, Whites are geriatric.

    Our Host, Ron Unz, has done a number of analyses that conclusively prove that, after adjusting for age, whites are significantly more likely to be criminals than Hispanics. He demonstrated this with data from Texas, as well. In fact, non-Hispanic white women outnumber Hispanic women in California prisons in absolute numbers. Sorry to burst your bubble, but on the West Coast, Hispanics are better behaved than whites.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  66. @Whiskey
    The Biden Regency is fighting a three front war:

    A. Against Russia in Ukraine to basically kill most of its military age population via fighting in Ukraine*

    B. Against China in fighting off its inevitable seizure of Taiwan, which will involve massive naval / air / missile battles all across the Western and Eastern Pacific (China no kidding has a new base on Guadalcanal).

    C. Against White guys at home. As the KKKrazy Glue that can hold together TERFS and trannies, blacks and Asians, etc.

    This three front war is the result of the Regency being impressively stupid, stupid at a whole new level, actually believing Russia and China are just supersized Iraq or Libya, and believing Wakanda Forever and Captain Marvel will easily crush those two.

    *The Ukranian Army is basically done. What remains is getting captured or killed in the East. The "migrants" who have Ukranian citizenship from places like Kashmir will not and have not fought for it, preferring to flee to Poland. Europe has not enough young White men to fight and their Muslims and Africans are not going to fight for Ukraine. That leaves the US with a rapidly diminishing pool of young White men to fight in Ukraine for the attrition strategy to work. Given that weapons do not fire themselves and modern systems require high levels of IQ and training to deploy and use them effectively in combat.

    Meanwhile both Russia and China are not hampered by weapons development requiring Affirmative Action people at every level to spread out the gravy and boss around White guys. Talented White engineers basically don't exist anymore, they could not get into college and are working at Starbucks or some other downwardly mobile occupation. The cost of Affirmative Action is loss of decisive weapons systems against near peer adversaries.

    The long fights against primitive enemies who were basically illiterate goat herders on motorbikes has corrupted the Military Industrial Complex into thinking that: A. the systems we have are and always will be decisive, B. we will always have an endless supply of Special Forces dudes fighting against non-White goat herders and that will be sufficient, not very large deployments of regular military in battles of annihilation which characterized most of Western Warfare.

    Russia and China have massive advantages over us. They don't have Affirnative Action, they don't have the need to demonize their White male or Han Chinese Male populations as evil to keep their political / social coalitions together, and they can deploy more high IQ and more highly motivated regular military people than we can. They certainly can deploy newer / better weapons at a higher cadence than we can as we emphasize having enough blacks on the team and IN CHARGE rather than newer / better weapons faster.

    A self-aware and competent Military Industrial Complex would have called off war on White guys to preserve its strategic advantage but its as addicted to the HATE HATE HATE of White guys as KKKrazy Glue as anyone else -- hence this article. You can't win against Russia and China while making war on the guys you require to fight them. But they really believe in Wakanda and Captain Marvel.

    TLDR, America's White / Latino fighting forces and their White engineers are too thin and badly motivated to fight for GloboHomo and win.

    Replies: @Alden, @Truth

    The goat herders in Toyota pickups drove the American army out of Afghanistan.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  67. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Anon


    After all, Hispanics were there first, have probably always been the majority, and they never called themselves Aryan before the arrival of the Anglos.
     
    I doubt this is the case that Hispanics have always been the majority in New Mexico. There were Indians there (Pueblos), then Conquistadors, and then European settlers. I don't think a substantial Mexican population arrived until the advent of ranching and farming and irrigation there which drew them for work. Sure, it was part of Old Mexico for under two decades, but I don't think the Old Mexicans did much with the place, and it being a lot of arid desert without irrigation it wasn't particularly hospitable for human habitation.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Anon, @AceDeuce

    After all, Hispanics were there first

    So the “stolen land” trope doesn’t apply to Hispanics?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @AceDeuce

    The Hispanics didn't steal the land; they lived in harmony with the Indians and the buffalo.

    As soon as Anglos show up, the buffalo disappear and the Native Americans become drunk diabetes casualties confined to prison camps ("reservations").

    Anglos = #1 corrupt exterminator liargenociders

    Replies: @turtle, @Thelma Ringbaum

  68. meh says:
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Yeah, the ADL are a bunch of liars. What’s new?
     
    What's new is that the Press and Big Tech farm out the definition of "white supremacist" and "right wing hate" and "right wing terrorism" to the "experts" at the ADL. So when the ADL says "Achmed E. Newman is a white supremacist right wing terrorist" they print just that, or remove posts from "Achmed E. Newman," or ban posts favorable to Achmed E. Newman's views.

    Even newer is that the Federal Government, through its law enforcement agencies, is using the ADL's slanders as the basis of allocation of law enforcement priorities. It's now Jonathan Greenblatt whispering into the ear of the FBI "go get Achmed E. Newman."

    Replies: @meh, @Achmed E. Newman

    What’s new is that the Press and Big Tech farm out the definition of “white supremacist” and “right wing hate” and “right wing terrorism” to the “experts” at the ADL. So when the ADL says “Achmed E. Newman is a white supremacist right wing terrorist” they print just that, or remove posts from “Achmed E. Newman,” or ban posts favorable to Achmed E. Newman’s views.

    Even newer is that the Federal Government, through its law enforcement agencies, is using the ADL’s slanders as the basis of allocation of law enforcement priorities. It’s now Jonathan Greenblatt whispering into the ear of the FBI “go get Achmed E. Newman.”

    None of this is new.

    ADL has been doing some variation of this since it was founded to defend a dead pedophile, although this kind of “ADL as official definer of terms” for mass media was probably formalized in the 1960s.

    Newspapers, radio and TV were following the ADL lead on this long before online social media started doing so. There was a brief period prior to about 2016-2017 when social media wasn’t simply following ADL instructions, but since then ADL has simply had to put you on a list and you lost your YouTube channel or whatever.

    ADL training and manipulation of law enforcement goes back at least to the 1980s or 1990s, when I first started paying attention to such things. I would not be surprised if it was going on far earlier than that.

    The only difference now is that Jonathan Greenblatt is very blatant about what he is doing, whereas his predecessors were more subtle.

  69. @Joe Magarac
    @JimDandy


    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?
     
    Serious answer OK? Aside from whatever the ADL is peddling?

    Among underclass types "Nazi" imagery has connotations of edgy defiance with only a weak correlation with historical ideologies.

    There is also implicitly a tactical alliance of Whites and Mexicans underclasses when it comes to confronting ... ahem ... African Americans. And this is not just about professional criminals, it's a social class thing.

    The alliance of "Peoples Of Color" (sometimes explicitly including Jews) is strictly for academic leftists, elites and Democrat apparatchiks.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Truth

    Yeah, what I was saying.

    • Thanks: Joe Magarac
  70. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    The “ Russian “ gangsters in California aren’t ethnic Russians at all. They are ethnic Jewish White collar and prostitution and drug dealer gangsters. As usual, as always was. Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.

    You lifted your copy and paste comment right from a false lying ADL article in the Los Angeles Jewish Journal. I skim through the Jewish Journal often. Gotta keep tabs on what the enemy’s doing. I know where you find your falsehoods.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus, @Truth

    Russians in L.A. tend to range from all-Jewish to part-Jewish to not-Jewish-but-has-a-part-Jewish-husband-or-cousin to not Jewish at all. There is often a complicated Israeli connection as well: e.g., born in Israel after Sharon invited in part-Jews from Russia, but the parents got sick of the rabbis complaining they weren’t really Jewish (and, to tell the truth, they didn’t really like living around all these other Jews because they hadn’t been all that Jewish in the Soviet Union), and bounced for America.

    This kind of blurriness is hard for people to hold in their heads, so Russians-in-L.A. don’t get written about much in the news media, although screenwriters tend to be fascinated by them.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    So Russian L.A. gangsters are a network of secular-Jewish mobsters.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  71. @anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    In the '90's I played basketball with a guy named Kuykendahl. He said to me, "I'm a black guy with a white guy's name."

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    La Griffe du Lion greatly admires the very black president of U. of Maryland, Baltimore County, who is named Freeman Hrabowski. He’s says he’s just an old time descendant of American slaves who got a Polish name along the way.

    • Replies: @Rohirrimborn
    @Steve Sailer

    The silver medalist at the last Olympics is black American Kenny Bednarek who acquired his Polish-Jewish surname via adoption.

    https://youtu.be/89YFSbr6jv0

    , @Dutch Boy
    @Steve Sailer

    Our Navajo guide at Canyon de Chelly had a last name of Van Winkle, inherited from a distant Dutch ancestor. Fortunately for us, we opted for the pricey SUV tour rather than the cheaper flat bed truck mass tour. The truck passed us loaded with a quite morose looking load of tourists and Mr. Van Winkle commented sardonically that the Navajo refer to it as "the shake and bake tour" (C de C is a bake oven in summer and the road is like a corrugated roof).

  72. @Steve Sailer
    @Alden

    Russians in L.A. tend to range from all-Jewish to part-Jewish to not-Jewish-but-has-a-part-Jewish-husband-or-cousin to not Jewish at all. There is often a complicated Israeli connection as well: e.g., born in Israel after Sharon invited in part-Jews from Russia, but the parents got sick of the rabbis complaining they weren't really Jewish (and, to tell the truth, they didn't really like living around all these other Jews because they hadn't been all that Jewish in the Soviet Union), and bounced for America.

    This kind of blurriness is hard for people to hold in their heads, so Russians-in-L.A. don't get written about much in the news media, although screenwriters tend to be fascinated by them.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    So Russian L.A. gangsters are a network of secular-Jewish mobsters.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    Bosses tend to be kind of to fully Jewish, the flathead muscle tends to be gentile. But that's my impression. I haven't seen a methodical inquiry.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  73. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Yeah, the ADL are a bunch of liars. What’s new?
     
    What's new is that the Press and Big Tech farm out the definition of "white supremacist" and "right wing hate" and "right wing terrorism" to the "experts" at the ADL. So when the ADL says "Achmed E. Newman is a white supremacist right wing terrorist" they print just that, or remove posts from "Achmed E. Newman," or ban posts favorable to Achmed E. Newman's views.

    Even newer is that the Federal Government, through its law enforcement agencies, is using the ADL's slanders as the basis of allocation of law enforcement priorities. It's now Jonathan Greenblatt whispering into the ear of the FBI "go get Achmed E. Newman."

    Replies: @meh, @Achmed E. Newman

    I take your point, Alec. The ADL and the $PLC have been unofficial lyin’ stats arms of the Feral Gov’t for a long while.

    However, you are right indeed that the new cancellation stuff out of Big “TECH” is worse than what has gone on before.

    Any anti-“LOLbertarian” that keeps coming up with that bullshit had better think what giving all this power to Feral Gov’t agencies has wrought. The US Gov’t has not been on our side in a long, long time. Big “TECH” does the US Gov’t’s bidding, and vice versa.

  74. @Joe Stalin
    https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1530405094256156677?cxt=HHwWioCx2eTUi70qAAAA

    Ethan, an American, and Hila, an Israeli, first met at the Holocaust memorial Yad Vashem in Israel in 2007; Ethan was on his Birthright Israel trip, while Hila was serving in the Israel Defense Forces.[50] They married in 2012.[51] During the early years of their YouTube career, they lived together in Israel.[2] They have two sons, Theodore, who was born in June 2019, and Bruce, who was born in February 2022.[51][52][53]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H3h3Productions
     

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Some hasbara don’t wear masks. Pretty funny, though. As of late, he couldn’t be doing a better job of discrediting and embarrassing his masters. (And mistress.)

  75. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    The “ Russian “ gangsters in California aren’t ethnic Russians at all. They are ethnic Jewish White collar and prostitution and drug dealer gangsters. As usual, as always was. Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.

    You lifted your copy and paste comment right from a false lying ADL article in the Los Angeles Jewish Journal. I skim through the Jewish Journal often. Gotta keep tabs on what the enemy’s doing. I know where you find your falsehoods.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus, @Truth

    “The “ Russian “ gangsters in California aren’t ethnic Russians at all. They are ethnic Jewish White collar and prostitution and drug dealer gangsters. As usual, as always was.”

    So says the women who claims to have read over 200000 books in her lifetime. Undoubtedly there are Jews who are Russian who are involved. But you claiming all or most fit that description. What is this ethnic breakdown? Numbers and percentages, please, with citations.

    “You lifted your copy and paste comment right from a false lying ADL article in the Los Angeles Jewish Journal. I skim through the Jewish Journal often. Gotta keep tabs on what the enemy’s doing. I know where you find your falsehoods.”

    No, I cited all of the sources, including the Los Angeles Almanac, which “has been a unique online reference devoted to providing statistical and narrative information about the people, places and stories that make up the incredible panorama of Los Angeles County. We are not only the first comprehensive almanac for Los Angeles County, but also the first (and as yet only) online almanac focusing exclusively on any major metropolitan area in the world”.

    So please show us this alleged ADL article that the Los Angeles Almanac used. You made the assertion, so please furnish direct evidence.

    Furthermore, I get why you label anyone who opposes your ideology as the “enemy”. It’s much easier intellectually. In that manner, you can dismiss anything that doesn’t conform to your narrative. That’s the look of a bitter, scorned female.

  76. Anon[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    Whites are only 21 percent if the Ca prison population, Way underrepresented blacks of course way way over represented. And Hispanics just about the same percentage as in the entire population of the state.

    Therefore, Whites the least likely to be criminals, blacks most likely to be criminals. Hispanics in between.

    Replies: @Anon

    What kind of retard reasoning is that?

    These populations aren’t equal by age. Hispanics in California are young, Whites are geriatric.

    Our Host, Ron Unz, has done a number of analyses that conclusively prove that, after adjusting for age, whites are significantly more likely to be criminals than Hispanics. He demonstrated this with data from Texas, as well. In fact, non-Hispanic white women outnumber Hispanic women in California prisons in absolute numbers. Sorry to burst your bubble, but on the West Coast, Hispanics are better behaved than whites.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Anon

    'Our Host, Ron Unz, has done a number of analyses that conclusively prove that, after adjusting for age, whites are significantly more likely to be criminals than Hispanics."

    No, he hasn't. The "after adjusting for age" is just shameless statistical manipulation. Unz also does not address in two significant factors: 1: Unreported intra-ethnic crime and violence among Central Americans living the US and 2: The mis-categorizing of Central/Caribbean Americans as white.

    As Sailer has noted, murder tends to be the best measure of overall violent crime when addressing the differences in criminality among racial groups, because dead bodies don't lie and a majority of murders are intraracial.

    Per the indefatigable data mining site Hey Jackass, which specializes in monitoring the murder trends in Chicago for the last decade, has shown that while negroes are obviously responsible for a majority of murder in Chicago, it also reveals that "hispanics" are 3-4 times more likely to commit murder than whites are. (Chicago is about 1/3 each white, hispanic, and black)

    https://heyjackass.com/2022-race-of-victim-assailant/

    My wife has been a social worker in the Chicago area for almost 30 years, dealing specifically with child/family separation cases. In her experience cases of incest are greatest within the hispanic community, and it is extremely difficult to get incest convictions because the victims do not cooperate with the police for whatever reason.

    Replies: @Anon, @Dutch Boy

  77. @AceDeuce
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    After all, Hispanics were there first
     
    So the "stolen land" trope doesn't apply to Hispanics?

    Replies: @Anon

    The Hispanics didn’t steal the land; they lived in harmony with the Indians and the buffalo.

    As soon as Anglos show up, the buffalo disappear and the Native Americans become drunk diabetes casualties confined to prison camps (“reservations”).

    Anglos = #1 corrupt exterminator liargenociders

    • Troll: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @turtle
    @Anon

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Oñate

    There were no buffalo in Nuevo Mexico.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Thelma Ringbaum
    @Anon

    The problem is and was Anglo womanists. Dutch and English explorer folks would happily live with a local squaw . Then when ugly Anglo women appeared, they inevitably woukd start a squaw-genocide.

    Spaniards kept their women in harems like proper Moors they were not long ago, so they did not have this kind of pattern of behaviour.

  78. @Anon
    @AceDeuce

    The Hispanics didn't steal the land; they lived in harmony with the Indians and the buffalo.

    As soon as Anglos show up, the buffalo disappear and the Native Americans become drunk diabetes casualties confined to prison camps ("reservations").

    Anglos = #1 corrupt exterminator liargenociders

    Replies: @turtle, @Thelma Ringbaum

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Oñate

    There were no buffalo in Nuevo Mexico.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @turtle

    Yes there were. Ever heard of the ciboleros (Hispanic buffalo hunters from New Mexico)?

    There were tens of thousands of Hispanics in Eastern N.M. sustaining themselves off of buffalo hunts in the 1800s. The the Anglos came... And those majestic 60 million buffalo almost disappeared from the North American continent. An entire ethnic group lost its awesome way of life, and became gas station burrito fryers for Conoco-Phillips.

    Anglos can't even remember their own atrocities.

    Replies: @turtle

  79. Reminds me of the California white supremacist / Hispanic prison gang named, inclusively, the Nazi Low Riders.

    Classic iSteve content. Had a good long laugh about this one.

  80. @Anon
    @Alden

    What kind of retard reasoning is that?


    These populations aren't equal by age. Hispanics in California are young, Whites are geriatric.

    Our Host, Ron Unz, has done a number of analyses that conclusively prove that, after adjusting for age, whites are significantly more likely to be criminals than Hispanics. He demonstrated this with data from Texas, as well. In fact, non-Hispanic white women outnumber Hispanic women in California prisons in absolute numbers. Sorry to burst your bubble, but on the West Coast, Hispanics are better behaved than whites.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    ‘Our Host, Ron Unz, has done a number of analyses that conclusively prove that, after adjusting for age, whites are significantly more likely to be criminals than Hispanics.”

    No, he hasn’t. The “after adjusting for age” is just shameless statistical manipulation. Unz also does not address in two significant factors: 1: Unreported intra-ethnic crime and violence among Central Americans living the US and 2: The mis-categorizing of Central/Caribbean Americans as white.

    As Sailer has noted, murder tends to be the best measure of overall violent crime when addressing the differences in criminality among racial groups, because dead bodies don’t lie and a majority of murders are intraracial.

    Per the indefatigable data mining site Hey Jackass, which specializes in monitoring the murder trends in Chicago for the last decade, has shown that while negroes are obviously responsible for a majority of murder in Chicago, it also reveals that “hispanics” are 3-4 times more likely to commit murder than whites are. (Chicago is about 1/3 each white, hispanic, and black)

    https://heyjackass.com/2022-race-of-victim-assailant/

    My wife has been a social worker in the Chicago area for almost 30 years, dealing specifically with child/family separation cases. In her experience cases of incest are greatest within the hispanic community, and it is extremely difficult to get incest convictions because the victims do not cooperate with the police for whatever reason.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Mike Tre

    Again, you have to adjust for age since white people are geriatric on average compared to Latinos. Young people are the ones who commit crime. Age adjustment is not "manipulation" and you sound like an elementary school dropout for saying that.

    Age-adjust the murder rate and you'll find exactly what Ron Unz found for the incarceration rate: blacks are killers, whites are liars, and Latinos are the best behaved group in America besides Asians. Unsurprising and predictable, since Latinos share a lot of DNA with Asians.

    , @Dutch Boy
    @Mike Tre

    It is highly unlikely that immigrants from countries with astronomically high crime rates (e.g., Mexico and Central America) will become law abiding citizens once they reach our blessed shores (the "magic dirt" theory). American Renaissance published an article years ago that used crime statistics from California to claim that crime rates among Hispanics were about triple those of white Americans. That differential can be hidden as Hispanics displace much more crime-prone blacks in California.

  81. @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    So Russian L.A. gangsters are a network of secular-Jewish mobsters.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Bosses tend to be kind of to fully Jewish, the flathead muscle tends to be gentile. But that’s my impression. I haven’t seen a methodical inquiry.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    And what evidence is this impression based upon?

  82. Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?

    New Mexico is unique from any other state in that most of the Hispanic population north of the center of the state has ancestors that have been here for 300-400 years. We have a (relatively) small Mexican immigrant population, and the New Mexican population are direct descendants from Elite Spanish families that constituted the conquistadors who came up from Mexico City before Jamestown.

    So the “white nationalists” with the Spanish surnames may be 100% European.

    • Agree: turtle
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Truth


    New Mexico is unique...

    So the “white nationalists” with the Spanish surnames may be 100% European.
     

    And may have la clamidia:


    https://s3.amazonaws.com/content.alarms.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/11002101/STDs-by-State-Chlamydia-per-100K.png

    , @turtle
    @Truth

    When I was a boy, growing up in Albuquerque, the Spanish speaking people there were known as Spanish-American. The term "Chicano" with its implied "victimhood" hadn't been invented yet, and there were very few Mexican illegals. Calling a Spanish-American "Mexican" was considered an insult by many, if not most.

    "Baca" is a common Spanish surname in New Mexico. There is a small minority who style their surname "C. de Baca," the "C" standing for "Cabeza." They may believe they are descended from:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Álvar_Núñez_Cabeza_de_Vaca
    or one of his relatives, although whether that is actually true I do not know.

    I don't know if it is still true, but at that time, all State laws in New Mexico were published in Spanish as well as English, although the Legislature conducted its business in English.

    Replies: @Truth

  83. @al gore rhythms
    @Harry Baldwin

    In prisons that are overwhelmingly white, do people still feel the need to bunch together according to race, I wonder?

    If not, then whites deserve to have their racial affiliations in prison treated more leniently, seeing as it is not something we do when given the choice.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Never heard of white supremacist gangs in Jimmy-Cagney-in-prison movies…

  84. @Joe Magarac
    @JimDandy


    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?
     
    Serious answer OK? Aside from whatever the ADL is peddling?

    Among underclass types "Nazi" imagery has connotations of edgy defiance with only a weak correlation with historical ideologies.

    There is also implicitly a tactical alliance of Whites and Mexicans underclasses when it comes to confronting ... ahem ... African Americans. And this is not just about professional criminals, it's a social class thing.

    The alliance of "Peoples Of Color" (sometimes explicitly including Jews) is strictly for academic leftists, elites and Democrat apparatchiks.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Truth

    In Western US prisons, yes, the Mexicans and Whites have an unspoken agreement to support each other in riots against blacks…

    But:

    EVERYONE ELSE in the prison (known as the others) fights WITH the Crips and Bloods in the matter of a race war. If Twinkie and Malla are in prison hanging with the multicultural table and the order comes down that we are in a race war, T-Spoon and Lil’ Big Maan are their Comrades in Arms, if they do not, their own commander would probably shank them in the necks.

    The reason being that the White Nationalists and Mexican Mafia gangs are Blood-oriented, and an Asian, Arab or Indian is automatically an enemy for not being Mexican or white, conversely, most west coast “others” are in loose alliances on the streets with black gangs before they go in. Not that it will all be peaches and cream.

  85. @Alden
    @Corvinus

    The “ Russian “ gangsters in California aren’t ethnic Russians at all. They are ethnic Jewish White collar and prostitution and drug dealer gangsters. As usual, as always was. Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.

    You lifted your copy and paste comment right from a false lying ADL article in the Los Angeles Jewish Journal. I skim through the Jewish Journal often. Gotta keep tabs on what the enemy’s doing. I know where you find your falsehoods.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus, @Truth

    Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.

    I’m afraid that’s incorrect, Armenian Power is an ethnic Armenian group based in Glendale, CA, which is basically West Yerevan, Armenia. And Armenians make up the vast majority, if not all of AP. Armenian power basically became a “Gang” in Hollywood and North Hollywood as the Armenians were getting into rows with Mexican students.

    This is a fact as I knew a few members 15 years ago. They speak Armenian, to each other, as all of their parents make them take it on weekends and Richard Van Gordenheimer is not going to join.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Truth

    You don't have to join a gang to get their protection.

    AP probably figures there is some positive juice from doing a solid for Richard Von Gordenheimer.

    Replies: @Truth

  86. @OFWHAP
    @Steve Sailer

    But are Armenians REALLY white?

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum, @AndrewR, @RadicalCenter

    Armenians. They are undoubtly Aryan and Caucasian. Whiteness is another matter altogether.

    I have yet to see a white Aryan without them being Angloindian Eurasian or somethin like that.

  87. @Anon
    @AceDeuce

    The Hispanics didn't steal the land; they lived in harmony with the Indians and the buffalo.

    As soon as Anglos show up, the buffalo disappear and the Native Americans become drunk diabetes casualties confined to prison camps ("reservations").

    Anglos = #1 corrupt exterminator liargenociders

    Replies: @turtle, @Thelma Ringbaum

    The problem is and was Anglo womanists. Dutch and English explorer folks would happily live with a local squaw . Then when ugly Anglo women appeared, they inevitably woukd start a squaw-genocide.

    Spaniards kept their women in harems like proper Moors they were not long ago, so they did not have this kind of pattern of behaviour.

  88. @Anonymous
    @Daniel H


    Let’s start with the neo-cons and their agenda against Russia, a violent fixation that poses a threat to the entire world
     
    I think you’re on the wrong Unz thread. The old fart Sailer supports NATO and the globalist cabal against Russia.

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum

    Lets wait for monkey pox reaction..

  89. @Truth

    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?
     
    New Mexico is unique from any other state in that most of the Hispanic population north of the center of the state has ancestors that have been here for 300-400 years. We have a (relatively) small Mexican immigrant population, and the New Mexican population are direct descendants from Elite Spanish families that constituted the conquistadors who came up from Mexico City before Jamestown.

    So the "white nationalists" with the Spanish surnames may be 100% European.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @turtle

    New Mexico is unique…

    So the “white nationalists” with the Spanish surnames may be 100% European.

    And may have la clamidia:

  90. @Anonymous

    This Real Clear Investigations article makes an old but good point: the ADL tends to count all crimes committed by white cons who’d been in a white prison gang as white extremism, even when they are just shooting their white cousin or whatever, while ignoring almost all the many crimes committed by guys who have been in black and Latino prison gangs:
     
    Does the ADL have a genocidal agenda against Whites? This kind of stuff seems malicious.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    Didn’t that ADL fella have a chart on his wall tracking the declining White share of the population in the US and the rising foreign born population in Europe? Of course immigration advocacy is all about love and humanitarianism, in no way is it driven by genocidal hatred of Europeans.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @LondonBob

    I think that was a guy at the SPLC.

    Pretty much the same thing.

    , @Richard B
    @LondonBob


    Didn’t that ADL fella have a chart on his wall tracking the declining White share of the population in the US and the rising foreign born population in Europe?
     
    Mark Potok of The $PLC.

    https://ifunny.co/picture/splc-mark-potok-s-office-tracking-decline-of-white-population-JmFHtkpp7
  91. @turtle
    @Anon

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Oñate

    There were no buffalo in Nuevo Mexico.

    Replies: @Anon

    Yes there were. Ever heard of the ciboleros (Hispanic buffalo hunters from New Mexico)?

    There were tens of thousands of Hispanics in Eastern N.M. sustaining themselves off of buffalo hunts in the 1800s. The the Anglos came… And those majestic 60 million buffalo almost disappeared from the North American continent. An entire ethnic group lost its awesome way of life, and became gas station burrito fryers for Conoco-Phillips.

    Anglos can’t even remember their own atrocities.

    • Replies: @turtle
    @Anon

    No, I never did.
    But then, I grew up west of the Sandias, which is much more arid than the grasslands of Eastern New Mexico. My brother and his wife lived in Carlsbad for a time, where municipal water from the Pecos River is so plentiful the City of Carlsbad does not meter it, and it is possible to grow pecans commercially.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cibolero

    Western New Mexico is an entirely different story, where water is a precious commodity. Navajo who live on the Res these days are sheep farmers. I do not believe they were ever buffalo hunters like the Plains Indians.

  92. Anon[404] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    @Anon

    'Our Host, Ron Unz, has done a number of analyses that conclusively prove that, after adjusting for age, whites are significantly more likely to be criminals than Hispanics."

    No, he hasn't. The "after adjusting for age" is just shameless statistical manipulation. Unz also does not address in two significant factors: 1: Unreported intra-ethnic crime and violence among Central Americans living the US and 2: The mis-categorizing of Central/Caribbean Americans as white.

    As Sailer has noted, murder tends to be the best measure of overall violent crime when addressing the differences in criminality among racial groups, because dead bodies don't lie and a majority of murders are intraracial.

    Per the indefatigable data mining site Hey Jackass, which specializes in monitoring the murder trends in Chicago for the last decade, has shown that while negroes are obviously responsible for a majority of murder in Chicago, it also reveals that "hispanics" are 3-4 times more likely to commit murder than whites are. (Chicago is about 1/3 each white, hispanic, and black)

    https://heyjackass.com/2022-race-of-victim-assailant/

    My wife has been a social worker in the Chicago area for almost 30 years, dealing specifically with child/family separation cases. In her experience cases of incest are greatest within the hispanic community, and it is extremely difficult to get incest convictions because the victims do not cooperate with the police for whatever reason.

    Replies: @Anon, @Dutch Boy

    Again, you have to adjust for age since white people are geriatric on average compared to Latinos. Young people are the ones who commit crime. Age adjustment is not “manipulation” and you sound like an elementary school dropout for saying that.

    Age-adjust the murder rate and you’ll find exactly what Ron Unz found for the incarceration rate: blacks are killers, whites are liars, and Latinos are the best behaved group in America besides Asians. Unsurprising and predictable, since Latinos share a lot of DNA with Asians.

  93. Anon[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike Tre
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    He probably means Aztec descended amerindians and a few mestizos. The term Hispanic is both intentionally misleading and doesn't make any sense in this context anyway. Aztecs never got north of the Rio Grande before the arrival of Europeans. Anon is merely employing the standard gaslighting of the American Southwest.

    Replies: @Anon

    Rofl. Mike Tre the high school dropout shows his utter ignorance yet again.

    No, silly I am talking about white European Spaniards who settled New Mexico by the hundreds of thousands, who intermarried with local Indian women. These peopoe were buffalo hunters, cattle ranchers, horse ranchers, goat herders, etc. They were living out there in New Mexico hundreds of years before the Anglos arrived and they were thriving without agriculture or any other European forms of ecologial destruction.

    Also, ignoramus, the Aztec ORIGINATED north of the Rio Grande. The Azteca migrated south in to Mexico from North Texas before they conquered the indigenous Mexicans and started their empire. You’re kidding if you think they couldn’t cross the Rio Grande after they got civilized and had a vast pyramid-building empire (ooohh… something Anglos weren’t doing at the the time).

  94. @Truth
    @Alden


    Armenian Power protects the very few White kids in the retard public schools. They have been very effective.
     
    I'm afraid that's incorrect, Armenian Power is an ethnic Armenian group based in Glendale, CA, which is basically West Yerevan, Armenia. And Armenians make up the vast majority, if not all of AP. Armenian power basically became a "Gang" in Hollywood and North Hollywood as the Armenians were getting into rows with Mexican students.

    This is a fact as I knew a few members 15 years ago. They speak Armenian, to each other, as all of their parents make them take it on weekends and Richard Van Gordenheimer is not going to join.

    Replies: @bomag

    You don’t have to join a gang to get their protection.

    AP probably figures there is some positive juice from doing a solid for Richard Von Gordenheimer.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @bomag

    They don't offer "protection", they fight Mexicans in High Schools, sell drugs, steal cars and listen to rap.

  95. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @guest007

    The Waco shootout resulted in 0 convictions according to the New York Times. Apparently it was all a police setup that completely failed to do anything they planned.

    It is hard to tell though because no evidence got presented and challenged and nobody in the press wants to embarrass the police any more than they already embarrassed themselves. It's unsportsmanlike piling on or something I guess.

    This story from February 2022 is quite fascinating.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/magazine/waco-biker-shootout.html

    Replies: @guest007

    According to wikipedia, the first trial resulted in hung jury. Couple that his a stupid district attorney who was voted out of office. Evidence was presented however,

  96. @LondonBob
    @Anonymous

    Didn't that ADL fella have a chart on his wall tracking the declining White share of the population in the US and the rising foreign born population in Europe? Of course immigration advocacy is all about love and humanitarianism, in no way is it driven by genocidal hatred of Europeans.

    Replies: @bomag, @Richard B

    I think that was a guy at the SPLC.

    Pretty much the same thing.

    • Thanks: LondonBob
  97. STOP REPLYING TO COMMENTERS WHO COULDN’T BE ARSED TO HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR BOARD CULTURE, IE, THE ANONYMOUS NUMBERED ONES, WHO, BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT OFFER A NAME, CANNOT HAVE THEIR COMMENTS PROPERLY SEARCHED.
    By complete coincidence I note that today and especially here there just happens to be a ton of anonymous commenters engaging in classic disruption actions, seen all the time on 2017 4chan when the fed shills were still getting the hang of things. None of them should be so much as read.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    It's my board, not yours.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AndrewR, @Truth

  98. I got the impression that the Aryan Brotherhood isn’t all that ideological, caring more about not getting raped and meth dealing. I doubt your average peckerwood with swastika tats on his neck knows much about the Treaty of Versailles or Oswald Spengler.

  99. @J.Ross
    STOP REPLYING TO COMMENTERS WHO COULDN'T BE ARSED TO HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR BOARD CULTURE, IE, THE ANONYMOUS NUMBERED ONES, WHO, BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT OFFER A NAME, CANNOT HAVE THEIR COMMENTS PROPERLY SEARCHED.
    By complete coincidence I note that today and especially here there just happens to be a ton of anonymous commenters engaging in classic disruption actions, seen all the time on 2017 4chan when the fed shills were still getting the hang of things. None of them should be so much as read.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    It’s my board, not yours.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    That's true but (1) there are patterns of disruption which are learnable based on the postings of shills in past years, (2) those anonymous commenters all have a disclaimer, what's the disclaimer for, (3) the quickest and surest way to evaluate a commenter is to review their record -- except the group we're talking about, where that is impossible, and (4) all disruption resulting from engaging with people who couldn't be bothered to play by the rules is completely preventable.

    , @AndrewR
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve it seems you have early onset Alzheimer's. Please settle your affairs and do the needful.

    , @Truth
    @Steve Sailer

    I don't know Steve, he wrote it pretty damn loud.

  100. @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    It's my board, not yours.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AndrewR, @Truth

    That’s true but (1) there are patterns of disruption which are learnable based on the postings of shills in past years, (2) those anonymous commenters all have a disclaimer, what’s the disclaimer for, (3) the quickest and surest way to evaluate a commenter is to review their record — except the group we’re talking about, where that is impossible, and (4) all disruption resulting from engaging with people who couldn’t be bothered to play by the rules is completely preventable.

  101. @OFWHAP
    @Steve Sailer

    But are Armenians REALLY white?

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum, @AndrewR, @RadicalCenter

    They’re California white

  102. @JimDandy
    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?

    Mexicans are doing the jobs white Americans refuse to do.

    Replies: @guest007, @Joe Magarac, @AnotherDad

    My lone hope for America–well beyond getting to “separation”–is the potential decline of Jewish cultural/attitudinal influence in the new Latinoized dump truck America.

    Jews have basically used blacks as their hammer. Both the black experience as their oppression narrative for delegitimization of the American nation, and as a vote bank.

    But Latinos don’t much care about blacks. Aren’t impressed by all the crying. And they aren’t immigration zealots either. Like most non-psychotic people, immigration wise they care about themselves–their immigration was by definition good–and their relatives … but that’s about it. They actually came to America because it was better–more peaceful and prosperous–than where they came from, and absent a mental pathology, have no particular desire to wreck it.

    As relative Jewish numbers/influence decline, political and cultural attitudes should get better–certainly more sane. And hopefully–along with Latino disdain for blacks–this is enough to hold off the Jews’ pathological immigrationism to keep us from downloading Steve’s “World’s Most Important Graph”.

    Of course, we’ll still be a giant mediocre Latinoized dump truck. A shadow of what America could have, should have been. And the Chinese–zooming ahead technologically–may just finish us off with some bioengineered bug. Still relative to what we see now … “hope”.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @AnotherDad

    But Latinos don’t much care about blacks.

    Yeah, in fact, if the articles I read on Taki's over the years are true, there has been a running race war in the West Coast between blacks and Mexicans, and brown has been handily winning--ethnically cleansing their territories to make them black-free. They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But they are also the people responsible for Mexico. It will be interesting to see how the Dems handle the growing number of Mexicans who vote red, narrative-wise.

    As for Jews, their numbers have been shrinking as their power and influence have continued increasing exponentially.

    Replies: @Anon, @LondonBob

  103. @OFWHAP
    @Steve Sailer

    But are Armenians REALLY white?

    Replies: @Thelma Ringbaum, @AndrewR, @RadicalCenter

    Not as white European as many Turks.

  104. @Truth

    Also, are there so few white Aryan Brothers in New Mexico that half of them have Spanish surnames?
     
    New Mexico is unique from any other state in that most of the Hispanic population north of the center of the state has ancestors that have been here for 300-400 years. We have a (relatively) small Mexican immigrant population, and the New Mexican population are direct descendants from Elite Spanish families that constituted the conquistadors who came up from Mexico City before Jamestown.

    So the "white nationalists" with the Spanish surnames may be 100% European.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @turtle

    When I was a boy, growing up in Albuquerque, the Spanish speaking people there were known as Spanish-American. The term “Chicano” with its implied “victimhood” hadn’t been invented yet, and there were very few Mexican illegals. Calling a Spanish-American “Mexican” was considered an insult by many, if not most.

    “Baca” is a common Spanish surname in New Mexico. There is a small minority who style their surname “C. de Baca,” the “C” standing for “Cabeza.” They may believe they are descended from:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Álvar_Núñez_Cabeza_de_Vaca
    or one of his relatives, although whether that is actually true I do not know.

    I don’t know if it is still true, but at that time, all State laws in New Mexico were published in Spanish as well as English, although the Legislature conducted its business in English.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @turtle

    Yes, Sir, I've been in Albuquerque for almost 20 years, and lived in Santa Fe for some time years ago.

    I don't believe the laws are published in Spanish anymore, the New Mexicans barely speak the language anymore, and when they do the Mexicans can't understand them, anyway*.

    There are a lot of traditional New Mexican names that are rare elsewhere; C de Baca, De la O, Trujillo, etc.

    And yes when I moved to Santa Fe, late teens, It took me a while to understand why people always said; "I'm not Mexican, I'm Spanish."

    Replies: @turtle

  105. @Steve Sailer
    @JimDandy

    Bosses tend to be kind of to fully Jewish, the flathead muscle tends to be gentile. But that's my impression. I haven't seen a methodical inquiry.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    And what evidence is this impression based upon?

  106. @Anon
    @turtle

    Yes there were. Ever heard of the ciboleros (Hispanic buffalo hunters from New Mexico)?

    There were tens of thousands of Hispanics in Eastern N.M. sustaining themselves off of buffalo hunts in the 1800s. The the Anglos came... And those majestic 60 million buffalo almost disappeared from the North American continent. An entire ethnic group lost its awesome way of life, and became gas station burrito fryers for Conoco-Phillips.

    Anglos can't even remember their own atrocities.

    Replies: @turtle

    No, I never did.
    But then, I grew up west of the Sandias, which is much more arid than the grasslands of Eastern New Mexico. My brother and his wife lived in Carlsbad for a time, where municipal water from the Pecos River is so plentiful the City of Carlsbad does not meter it, and it is possible to grow pecans commercially.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cibolero

    Western New Mexico is an entirely different story, where water is a precious commodity. Navajo who live on the Res these days are sheep farmers. I do not believe they were ever buffalo hunters like the Plains Indians.

  107. @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy

    My lone hope for America--well beyond getting to "separation"--is the potential decline of Jewish cultural/attitudinal influence in the new Latinoized dump truck America.

    Jews have basically used blacks as their hammer. Both the black experience as their oppression narrative for delegitimization of the American nation, and as a vote bank.

    But Latinos don't much care about blacks. Aren't impressed by all the crying. And they aren't immigration zealots either. Like most non-psychotic people, immigration wise they care about themselves--their immigration was by definition good--and their relatives ... but that's about it. They actually came to America because it was better--more peaceful and prosperous--than where they came from, and absent a mental pathology, have no particular desire to wreck it.

    As relative Jewish numbers/influence decline, political and cultural attitudes should get better--certainly more sane. And hopefully--along with Latino disdain for blacks--this is enough to hold off the Jews' pathological immigrationism to keep us from downloading Steve's "World's Most Important Graph".


    Of course, we'll still be a giant mediocre Latinoized dump truck. A shadow of what America could have, should have been. And the Chinese--zooming ahead technologically--may just finish us off with some bioengineered bug. Still relative to what we see now ... "hope".

    Replies: @JimDandy

    But Latinos don’t much care about blacks.

    Yeah, in fact, if the articles I read on Taki’s over the years are true, there has been a running race war in the West Coast between blacks and Mexicans, and brown has been handily winning–ethnically cleansing their territories to make them black-free. They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But they are also the people responsible for Mexico. It will be interesting to see how the Dems handle the growing number of Mexicans who vote red, narrative-wise.

    As for Jews, their numbers have been shrinking as their power and influence have continued increasing exponentially.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @JimDandy


    They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But
     
    Nah, they're really just a bunch of sissies and crossdressers.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/latino-millennials-least-likely-identify-heterosexual-survey-finds-n893701

    Latino millennials least likely to identify as heterosexual, survey finds More than one in five Latino millennials identify as LGBTQ,
     

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Richard B

    , @LondonBob
    @JimDandy

    I think there has been a clear decline in Jewish ability, as documented by our host, but nepotism and discrimination is keeping Jews superficially powerful, look at someone like Blinken or Jared Kushner, people promoted well beyond their abilities. They were incredibly destructive, but no question those early to mid twentieth century Jews were highly talented. Once the inherited wealth and power dissipates we could see quite a rapid decline.

    Replies: @Richard B

  108. @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    It's my board, not yours.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AndrewR, @Truth

    Steve it seems you have early onset Alzheimer’s. Please settle your affairs and do the needful.

  109. @Whiskey
    The Biden Regency is fighting a three front war:

    A. Against Russia in Ukraine to basically kill most of its military age population via fighting in Ukraine*

    B. Against China in fighting off its inevitable seizure of Taiwan, which will involve massive naval / air / missile battles all across the Western and Eastern Pacific (China no kidding has a new base on Guadalcanal).

    C. Against White guys at home. As the KKKrazy Glue that can hold together TERFS and trannies, blacks and Asians, etc.

    This three front war is the result of the Regency being impressively stupid, stupid at a whole new level, actually believing Russia and China are just supersized Iraq or Libya, and believing Wakanda Forever and Captain Marvel will easily crush those two.

    *The Ukranian Army is basically done. What remains is getting captured or killed in the East. The "migrants" who have Ukranian citizenship from places like Kashmir will not and have not fought for it, preferring to flee to Poland. Europe has not enough young White men to fight and their Muslims and Africans are not going to fight for Ukraine. That leaves the US with a rapidly diminishing pool of young White men to fight in Ukraine for the attrition strategy to work. Given that weapons do not fire themselves and modern systems require high levels of IQ and training to deploy and use them effectively in combat.

    Meanwhile both Russia and China are not hampered by weapons development requiring Affirmative Action people at every level to spread out the gravy and boss around White guys. Talented White engineers basically don't exist anymore, they could not get into college and are working at Starbucks or some other downwardly mobile occupation. The cost of Affirmative Action is loss of decisive weapons systems against near peer adversaries.

    The long fights against primitive enemies who were basically illiterate goat herders on motorbikes has corrupted the Military Industrial Complex into thinking that: A. the systems we have are and always will be decisive, B. we will always have an endless supply of Special Forces dudes fighting against non-White goat herders and that will be sufficient, not very large deployments of regular military in battles of annihilation which characterized most of Western Warfare.

    Russia and China have massive advantages over us. They don't have Affirnative Action, they don't have the need to demonize their White male or Han Chinese Male populations as evil to keep their political / social coalitions together, and they can deploy more high IQ and more highly motivated regular military people than we can. They certainly can deploy newer / better weapons at a higher cadence than we can as we emphasize having enough blacks on the team and IN CHARGE rather than newer / better weapons faster.

    A self-aware and competent Military Industrial Complex would have called off war on White guys to preserve its strategic advantage but its as addicted to the HATE HATE HATE of White guys as KKKrazy Glue as anyone else -- hence this article. You can't win against Russia and China while making war on the guys you require to fight them. But they really believe in Wakanda and Captain Marvel.

    TLDR, America's White / Latino fighting forces and their White engineers are too thin and badly motivated to fight for GloboHomo and win.

    Replies: @Alden, @Truth

    Talented White engineers basically don’t exist anymore, they could not get into college and are working at Starbucks or some other downwardly mobile occupation.

    Which alternative universe do you live in, again?

  110. @bomag
    @Truth

    You don't have to join a gang to get their protection.

    AP probably figures there is some positive juice from doing a solid for Richard Von Gordenheimer.

    Replies: @Truth

    They don’t offer “protection”, they fight Mexicans in High Schools, sell drugs, steal cars and listen to rap.

  111. @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    It's my board, not yours.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @AndrewR, @Truth

    I don’t know Steve, he wrote it pretty damn loud.

  112. @LondonBob
    @Anonymous

    Didn't that ADL fella have a chart on his wall tracking the declining White share of the population in the US and the rising foreign born population in Europe? Of course immigration advocacy is all about love and humanitarianism, in no way is it driven by genocidal hatred of Europeans.

    Replies: @bomag, @Richard B

    Didn’t that ADL fella have a chart on his wall tracking the declining White share of the population in the US and the rising foreign born population in Europe?

    Mark Potok of The $PLC.

    https://ifunny.co/picture/splc-mark-potok-s-office-tracking-decline-of-white-population-JmFHtkpp7

  113. @dearieme
    Sounds as if it was three FBI men and one survivor.

    Replies: @Dutch Boy

    Smells like a drug deal dispute (or “drug deal gone bad” as the media might put it). Gangs of all ethnicities deal drugs.

  114. @Mike Tre
    @Anon

    'Our Host, Ron Unz, has done a number of analyses that conclusively prove that, after adjusting for age, whites are significantly more likely to be criminals than Hispanics."

    No, he hasn't. The "after adjusting for age" is just shameless statistical manipulation. Unz also does not address in two significant factors: 1: Unreported intra-ethnic crime and violence among Central Americans living the US and 2: The mis-categorizing of Central/Caribbean Americans as white.

    As Sailer has noted, murder tends to be the best measure of overall violent crime when addressing the differences in criminality among racial groups, because dead bodies don't lie and a majority of murders are intraracial.

    Per the indefatigable data mining site Hey Jackass, which specializes in monitoring the murder trends in Chicago for the last decade, has shown that while negroes are obviously responsible for a majority of murder in Chicago, it also reveals that "hispanics" are 3-4 times more likely to commit murder than whites are. (Chicago is about 1/3 each white, hispanic, and black)

    https://heyjackass.com/2022-race-of-victim-assailant/

    My wife has been a social worker in the Chicago area for almost 30 years, dealing specifically with child/family separation cases. In her experience cases of incest are greatest within the hispanic community, and it is extremely difficult to get incest convictions because the victims do not cooperate with the police for whatever reason.

    Replies: @Anon, @Dutch Boy

    It is highly unlikely that immigrants from countries with astronomically high crime rates (e.g., Mexico and Central America) will become law abiding citizens once they reach our blessed shores (the “magic dirt” theory). American Renaissance published an article years ago that used crime statistics from California to claim that crime rates among Hispanics were about triple those of white Americans. That differential can be hidden as Hispanics displace much more crime-prone blacks in California.

    • Agree: LondonBob
  115. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    La Griffe du Lion greatly admires the very black president of U. of Maryland, Baltimore County, who is named Freeman Hrabowski. He's says he's just an old time descendant of American slaves who got a Polish name along the way.

    Replies: @Rohirrimborn, @Dutch Boy

    The silver medalist at the last Olympics is black American Kenny Bednarek who acquired his Polish-Jewish surname via adoption.

  116. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    La Griffe du Lion greatly admires the very black president of U. of Maryland, Baltimore County, who is named Freeman Hrabowski. He's says he's just an old time descendant of American slaves who got a Polish name along the way.

    Replies: @Rohirrimborn, @Dutch Boy

    Our Navajo guide at Canyon de Chelly had a last name of Van Winkle, inherited from a distant Dutch ancestor. Fortunately for us, we opted for the pricey SUV tour rather than the cheaper flat bed truck mass tour. The truck passed us loaded with a quite morose looking load of tourists and Mr. Van Winkle commented sardonically that the Navajo refer to it as “the shake and bake tour” (C de C is a bake oven in summer and the road is like a corrugated roof).

  117. @turtle
    @Truth

    When I was a boy, growing up in Albuquerque, the Spanish speaking people there were known as Spanish-American. The term "Chicano" with its implied "victimhood" hadn't been invented yet, and there were very few Mexican illegals. Calling a Spanish-American "Mexican" was considered an insult by many, if not most.

    "Baca" is a common Spanish surname in New Mexico. There is a small minority who style their surname "C. de Baca," the "C" standing for "Cabeza." They may believe they are descended from:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Álvar_Núñez_Cabeza_de_Vaca
    or one of his relatives, although whether that is actually true I do not know.

    I don't know if it is still true, but at that time, all State laws in New Mexico were published in Spanish as well as English, although the Legislature conducted its business in English.

    Replies: @Truth

    Yes, Sir, I’ve been in Albuquerque for almost 20 years, and lived in Santa Fe for some time years ago.

    I don’t believe the laws are published in Spanish anymore, the New Mexicans barely speak the language anymore, and when they do the Mexicans can’t understand them, anyway*.

    There are a lot of traditional New Mexican names that are rare elsewhere; C de Baca, De la O, Trujillo, etc.

    And yes when I moved to Santa Fe, late teens, It took me a while to understand why people always said; “I’m not Mexican, I’m Spanish.”

    • Replies: @turtle
    @Truth

    Ah, yes. Valentino de la O.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_De_La_O_Show
    His co-star, Juan Raigoza, taught Spanish and mathematics at Highland High.
    Juan's daughter, Renee, HHS Class of 1966, was quite pretty, and was in the homecoming court.

    In those days, Highland and Valley were considered the two best high schools academically in APS, and sent many graduates to prestigious universities, where they generally did well. I understand that has changed dramatically for the worse, at least as regards HHS.

    You may be too young to remember Al Hurricane:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hurricane

    Replies: @Truth

  118. @JimDandy
    @AnotherDad

    But Latinos don’t much care about blacks.

    Yeah, in fact, if the articles I read on Taki's over the years are true, there has been a running race war in the West Coast between blacks and Mexicans, and brown has been handily winning--ethnically cleansing their territories to make them black-free. They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But they are also the people responsible for Mexico. It will be interesting to see how the Dems handle the growing number of Mexicans who vote red, narrative-wise.

    As for Jews, their numbers have been shrinking as their power and influence have continued increasing exponentially.

    Replies: @Anon, @LondonBob

    They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But

    Nah, they’re really just a bunch of sissies and crossdressers.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/latino-millennials-least-likely-identify-heterosexual-survey-finds-n893701

    Latino millennials least likely to identify as heterosexual, survey finds More than one in five Latino millennials identify as LGBTQ,

    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Anon

    Wow.

    Replies: @Richard B

    , @Richard B
    @Anon

    Well if it comes from NBC News then it must be true.

    It's not of course. They're lying, as usual.

    That's not to say the hostile elite isn't trying to do to Latin America what it did to the US. They are. In certain pockets damage is being done and by the usual suspects.

    But overall it's catching on about as well as Democracy did in the 20th century. And even those openly whatever still value they're culture, and if they don't they're keeping it a secret. There's none of that unhinged, psycho anti-culture crap that you see in the US.

  119. @Prof. Woland
    I find that the practice of automatically labeling 'mass' shooters (I believe any shooting where there are more than four shootee's) as being mentally deranged and putting them into a separate category is a bit odd in that it implies that shooters who shoot fewer shootees are somehow sane. Why not just say they are all mentally f***** up? To me even trying to shoot one person for reasons other than self defense is deranged whether it is out of jealousy, hate, greed, or dissing someone's social status. Perhaps it is more of a legal definition for trying or sentencing but I thought I would throw that into the ring.

    Replies: @Macumazahn

    As someone once said, “Quantity has a quality all its own.”
    The difference between
    1) shooting the man who raped one’s sister, and
    2) shooting twenty kindergartners
    is one of category, not merely degree.

  120. @Anon
    @JimDandy


    They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But
     
    Nah, they're really just a bunch of sissies and crossdressers.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/latino-millennials-least-likely-identify-heterosexual-survey-finds-n893701

    Latino millennials least likely to identify as heterosexual, survey finds More than one in five Latino millennials identify as LGBTQ,
     

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Richard B

    Wow.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @JimDandy


    Wow.
     
    Wow is right. But not for the reason you think.

    Wow as in, I can't believe one of TUR's more prolific and intelligent commenters actually believes a MSM report posted by a Troll. Oh well, no one's perfect.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Anon

  121. @JimDandy
    @AnotherDad

    But Latinos don’t much care about blacks.

    Yeah, in fact, if the articles I read on Taki's over the years are true, there has been a running race war in the West Coast between blacks and Mexicans, and brown has been handily winning--ethnically cleansing their territories to make them black-free. They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But they are also the people responsible for Mexico. It will be interesting to see how the Dems handle the growing number of Mexicans who vote red, narrative-wise.

    As for Jews, their numbers have been shrinking as their power and influence have continued increasing exponentially.

    Replies: @Anon, @LondonBob

    I think there has been a clear decline in Jewish ability, as documented by our host, but nepotism and discrimination is keeping Jews superficially powerful, look at someone like Blinken or Jared Kushner, people promoted well beyond their abilities. They were incredibly destructive, but no question those early to mid twentieth century Jews were highly talented. Once the inherited wealth and power dissipates we could see quite a rapid decline.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Richard B
    @LondonBob

    Their situation now reminds me of something Nietzsche once wrote: Power makes people stupid.

    It doesn't have to and it doesn't always. But it certainly has in this case. Then again, it also reminds me of something a Jewish professor used to say, We're the smartest and dumbest people at the same time.

    So I guess now that we've seen their brightest and best come and go, well......

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  122. @Truth
    @turtle

    Yes, Sir, I've been in Albuquerque for almost 20 years, and lived in Santa Fe for some time years ago.

    I don't believe the laws are published in Spanish anymore, the New Mexicans barely speak the language anymore, and when they do the Mexicans can't understand them, anyway*.

    There are a lot of traditional New Mexican names that are rare elsewhere; C de Baca, De la O, Trujillo, etc.

    And yes when I moved to Santa Fe, late teens, It took me a while to understand why people always said; "I'm not Mexican, I'm Spanish."

    Replies: @turtle

    Ah, yes. Valentino de la O.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_De_La_O_Show
    His co-star, Juan Raigoza, taught Spanish and mathematics at Highland High.
    Juan’s daughter, Renee, HHS Class of 1966, was quite pretty, and was in the homecoming court.

    In those days, Highland and Valley were considered the two best high schools academically in APS, and sent many graduates to prestigious universities, where they generally did well. I understand that has changed dramatically for the worse, at least as regards HHS.

    You may be too young to remember Al Hurricane:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hurricane

    • Replies: @Truth
    @turtle

    Al Hurricane?

    Oh yes of course, he died a few years ago. I actually know two of his daughters, they had a band also. I think COVID kind of ended them though. 👍

  123. @JimDandy
    @Anon

    Wow.

    Replies: @Richard B

    Wow.

    Wow is right. But not for the reason you think.

    Wow as in, I can’t believe one of TUR‘s more prolific and intelligent commenters actually believes a MSM report posted by a Troll. Oh well, no one’s perfect.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Richard B

    My "wow" was a bit sarcastic--not because I found the article totally unbelievable, but because so what? It wouldn't surprise me, and it doesn't change my assertion about Mexicans being a religious, masculine, family-oriented group, relatively speaking. I've noticed an outlier gay-Mexican culture my whole life. That could even be because of the elevated masculinity/Catholicism of the primary culture they come from. Mostly, though, like I said, it's a so what? for me.

    , @Anon
    @Richard B

    Do you have any reason to believe those Latino millennials who responded to the poll wre lying?


    You do realize their are multiple other studies reporting a higher rate of homosexuality and transgenderism in Latino males, right?

    Or are you just a Latino who doesn't like that?

  124. @LondonBob
    @JimDandy

    I think there has been a clear decline in Jewish ability, as documented by our host, but nepotism and discrimination is keeping Jews superficially powerful, look at someone like Blinken or Jared Kushner, people promoted well beyond their abilities. They were incredibly destructive, but no question those early to mid twentieth century Jews were highly talented. Once the inherited wealth and power dissipates we could see quite a rapid decline.

    Replies: @Richard B

    Their situation now reminds me of something Nietzsche once wrote: Power makes people stupid.

    It doesn’t have to and it doesn’t always. But it certainly has in this case. Then again, it also reminds me of something a Jewish professor used to say, We’re the smartest and dumbest people at the same time.

    So I guess now that we’ve seen their brightest and best come and go, well……

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Richard B


    [Jews] situation now reminds me of something Nietzsche once wrote: Power makes people stupid.
     
    Not sure about that Nietzsche concept but it deserves consideration. Certainly being able to do things by brute force, even if it's social force, does not require you to be clever about obtaining your goals. Hmmm, maybe this helps to explain how Hitler got the idiot ball surgically implanted after Munich.

    I like the more recent observation "Good times make soft Jews," and use Irving and his son Bill Kristol as archetypical examples, and of your closing observation that "we’ve seen their brightest and best come and go."

    Replies: @Richard B

  125. @Anon
    @JimDandy


    They are a religious, masculine, family-oriented people. But
     
    Nah, they're really just a bunch of sissies and crossdressers.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/latino-millennials-least-likely-identify-heterosexual-survey-finds-n893701

    Latino millennials least likely to identify as heterosexual, survey finds More than one in five Latino millennials identify as LGBTQ,
     

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Richard B

    Well if it comes from NBC News then it must be true.

    It’s not of course. They’re lying, as usual.

    That’s not to say the hostile elite isn’t trying to do to Latin America what it did to the US. They are. In certain pockets damage is being done and by the usual suspects.

    But overall it’s catching on about as well as Democracy did in the 20th century. And even those openly whatever still value they’re culture, and if they don’t they’re keeping it a secret. There’s none of that unhinged, psycho anti-culture crap that you see in the US.

  126. @turtle
    @Truth

    Ah, yes. Valentino de la O.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_De_La_O_Show
    His co-star, Juan Raigoza, taught Spanish and mathematics at Highland High.
    Juan's daughter, Renee, HHS Class of 1966, was quite pretty, and was in the homecoming court.

    In those days, Highland and Valley were considered the two best high schools academically in APS, and sent many graduates to prestigious universities, where they generally did well. I understand that has changed dramatically for the worse, at least as regards HHS.

    You may be too young to remember Al Hurricane:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hurricane

    Replies: @Truth

    Al Hurricane?

    Oh yes of course, he died a few years ago. I actually know two of his daughters, they had a band also. I think COVID kind of ended them though. 👍

  127. @Richard B
    @LondonBob

    Their situation now reminds me of something Nietzsche once wrote: Power makes people stupid.

    It doesn't have to and it doesn't always. But it certainly has in this case. Then again, it also reminds me of something a Jewish professor used to say, We're the smartest and dumbest people at the same time.

    So I guess now that we've seen their brightest and best come and go, well......

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    [Jews] situation now reminds me of something Nietzsche once wrote: Power makes people stupid.

    Not sure about that Nietzsche concept but it deserves consideration. Certainly being able to do things by brute force, even if it’s social force, does not require you to be clever about obtaining your goals. Hmmm, maybe this helps to explain how Hitler got the idiot ball surgically implanted after Munich.

    I like the more recent observation “Good times make soft Jews,” and use Irving and his son Bill Kristol as archetypical examples, and of your closing observation that “we’ve seen their brightest and best come and go.”

    • Replies: @Richard B
    @That Would Be Telling


    Not sure about that Nietzsche concept but it deserves consideration.
     
    Me either. Then again his is a multiperspective philosophy. So he'd take a concept or idea about something like Power and address it from a number of angles, so to speak. He did the same with the Jews, the Germans, the Greeks, etc. etc. Erich Heller didn't call him the father of the modern age for nothing.

    I like the more recent observation “Good times make soft Jews,”
     
    I think they make for soft everyone. I also think one of the best commentaries on all of that is from Ortega (The Revolt of The Masses). It's been almost 100 years since its publication and it's still as relevant as ever.

    and use Irving and his son Bill Kristol as archetypical examples
     
    Bingo and Bullseye!
  128. @Richard B
    @JimDandy


    Wow.
     
    Wow is right. But not for the reason you think.

    Wow as in, I can't believe one of TUR's more prolific and intelligent commenters actually believes a MSM report posted by a Troll. Oh well, no one's perfect.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Anon

    My “wow” was a bit sarcastic–not because I found the article totally unbelievable, but because so what? It wouldn’t surprise me, and it doesn’t change my assertion about Mexicans being a religious, masculine, family-oriented group, relatively speaking. I’ve noticed an outlier gay-Mexican culture my whole life. That could even be because of the elevated masculinity/Catholicism of the primary culture they come from. Mostly, though, like I said, it’s a so what? for me.

  129. @That Would Be Telling
    @Richard B


    [Jews] situation now reminds me of something Nietzsche once wrote: Power makes people stupid.
     
    Not sure about that Nietzsche concept but it deserves consideration. Certainly being able to do things by brute force, even if it's social force, does not require you to be clever about obtaining your goals. Hmmm, maybe this helps to explain how Hitler got the idiot ball surgically implanted after Munich.

    I like the more recent observation "Good times make soft Jews," and use Irving and his son Bill Kristol as archetypical examples, and of your closing observation that "we’ve seen their brightest and best come and go."

    Replies: @Richard B

    Not sure about that Nietzsche concept but it deserves consideration.

    Me either. Then again his is a multiperspective philosophy. So he’d take a concept or idea about something like Power and address it from a number of angles, so to speak. He did the same with the Jews, the Germans, the Greeks, etc. etc. Erich Heller didn’t call him the father of the modern age for nothing.

    I like the more recent observation “Good times make soft Jews,”

    I think they make for soft everyone. I also think one of the best commentaries on all of that is from Ortega (The Revolt of The Masses). It’s been almost 100 years since its publication and it’s still as relevant as ever.

    and use Irving and his son Bill Kristol as archetypical examples

    Bingo and Bullseye!

    • Thanks: That Would Be Telling
  130. @Richard B
    @JimDandy


    Wow.
     
    Wow is right. But not for the reason you think.

    Wow as in, I can't believe one of TUR's more prolific and intelligent commenters actually believes a MSM report posted by a Troll. Oh well, no one's perfect.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Anon

    Do you have any reason to believe those Latino millennials who responded to the poll wre lying?

    You do realize their are multiple other studies reporting a higher rate of homosexuality and transgenderism in Latino males, right?

    Or are you just a Latino who doesn’t like that?

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