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From The Telegraph:

Universities must give more top degrees to black students, under new proposals by regulator

The Office for Students (OfS) has announced plans to overhaul its guidelines for boosting diversity in higher education

Camilla Turner, education editor
7 SEPTEMBER 2018 • 12:01AM

Universities could be punished unless they give a higher proportion of top degrees to black students, under new proposals drawn up by the regulator. …

These will not be limited to targets for admitting more school leavers from deprived households, but will also include addressing the gap in degree attainment between black and white students, according to OfS proposals.

There has been an almost 50 per cent increase in the number of black and ethnic minority students in England between 2007 and 2016.

78 per cent of white students graduated last year with a first class of [or?] upper second class degree, compared to just 53 per cent of black students.

Qualifications before attending university, although a key factor in degree outcomes, do not explain the differences between ethnic groups, according to data analysed by Universities UK.

 
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  1. Which is why I am a fan of RussiaChina and an exAmerican.

    • Replies: @Fred C Dobbs
    @bob sykes

    ISteve keeps ruining my day. Every day. LOL

    But seriously....this is so unfckin-believably stupid. The West has literally gone insane. And mostly w/in the space of my lifetime.......

    I'm really not a fan of RussiaChina***, but becoming an ex-American is beginning to seem more and more attractive.....

    Where did you "ex-" to?

    *** Although it will be a joy to watch the reaction from the Moolies once they find themselves under China's boot. You think you are "put-upon" now, you stupid Darkies? Just wait until the Han runs things. You'll be praying for the second coming of Cecil Rhodes.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    , @Anon
    @bob sykes

    Good for you. Can you piss the f*** off now and stop posting on American websites to tell people how much you hate America? Why don't you go post on a Chinese or Russian website faggot.

    Oh and of course you had to post first. Just couldn't wait to tell people how full of hate you are. Couldn't even let people actually discuss the topic first. As RD Laing once said: At a certain point this begins to look like pathology...

    Replies: @L Woods

  2. I wonder if that will include medical, nursing, engineering degrees. What a joke, and it will be coming here soon. Before too long, it will not even be required that negroes, maybe queers and trannies as well, attend classes or demonstrate any knowledge fr them to be awarded a degree. Lord help us and them when this time arrives.

    • Replies: @a
    @Brian Reilly


    Before too long, it will not even be required that negroes, maybe queers and trannies as well, attend classes or demonstrate any knowledge fr them to be awarded a degree.
     
    Sounds like a good idea actually. You give them a degree and they don't take the spot of a more deserving student.
    , @Rohirrimborn
    @Brian Reilly

    That time arrived decades ago. Read (if you can bear it) Michelle Obama's senior thesis while at Princeton. Pure gibberish. Barack didn't even have to write a word while editor of the Harvard Law Review.

    , @Anon
    @Brian Reilly

    It will SO SAD when bn will get the same degrees as the intelligent and hard-working Jared and Ivanka.

  3. Universities could be punished

    The beatings will continue until morale improves!

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Jack D

    DA, COMMISAR!

    Replies: @AKAHorace

  4. @Jack D

    Universities could be punished
     
    The beatings will continue until morale improves!

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    DA, COMMISAR!

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @Redneck farmer


    DA, COMMISAR!
     
    Your comment is a bit unfair to the Soviet Union. They were repressive but respected education.

    Replies: @Anon, @MBlanc46

  5. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    At this point it may just be better to give them quotas and get it over with

  6. This is really hamfisted. As Orwell wrote…

    The command of the old despotisms was “Thou shalt not”. The command of the totalitarians was “Thou shalt”. Our command is “Thou art”.

    Thou shalt graduate more blacks is so mid-20th-century.

  7. Can you imagine somebody actually being proud of something like this? Of course, it largely already exists, and is the logical progression from public schools “graduating” illiterates.

  8. OT:

    Anyone else just get their expiring weekly options position ruined by the Tweeter-in-Chief:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-30/peso-futures-tumble-trump-unleashes-tariffs-mexico-until-illegal-immigration-stops

    • Replies: @Lot
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The more important question is why are you betting on the Mexican peso?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @LondonBob

    , @James N. Kennett
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    Anyone else just get their expiring weekly options position ruined by the Tweeter-in-Chief:
     
    Interesting. Perhaps the revenue from the tariffs will pay for the Wall, fulfilling Trump's campaign promise.

    Alternatively, he could go on applying damaging new tariffs and sanctions to random countries until Congress agrees to pay for the Wall.
    , @J.Ross
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    What is the point of him doing this if he's given up on everything else? Is it because he still thinks Mexico will do anything on this issue?

    Replies: @istevefan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @danand
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Howard,

    Not this Friday, but it does make one wonder: who in Trump’s orbit might have/get a heads up on these proclamations?

  9. TWS says:

    Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials. If d-level celebs can get their moron 200 SAT kids into the school for cash and nobody notices, how tough can it be? If the average grade at Harvard is a B+ what do they mean? If every other student is an affirmative action charity case what use are they?

    • Replies: @Massimo Heitor
    @TWS


    Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials.
     
    That's a pretty big exception there. Degrees are worthless except for providing valuable access to higher paying careers.

    Replies: @Felix M

    , @black sea
    @TWS

    Just to expand a little on this point, the most frequently awarded grade at Harvard is an A, and more than half of the grades awarded are A- or higher.

    The average GPA at Harvard is 3.65.

    89% of seniors have a GPA of B+ or higher.

    Legacy students have slightly higher GPAs at Harvard than non-legacies.

    21% of seniors admitted to having cheated during their time at Harvard.


    Make of it what you will.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  10. Will this apply only to black British students or to black students in general? If a prosperous, well-connected Nigerian claims to have been raised in a mud hut, no one will be any the wiser. Will he/she be eligible for the scheme?

  11. Won’t be any push back from Academia until there is a quota for black professors and the quota is achieved by eliminating white profs.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @Buffalo Joe

    Hasn't that basically been the case for quite a while?

    Replies: @Mishima Zaibatsu

    , @Massimo Heitor
    @Buffalo Joe


    Won’t be any push back from Academia...
     
    There is huge and growing demand for drastic higher education reforms. It may or may not come from academia, but the current model is not ideal and inefficient in a variety of ways
    , @MBlanc46
    @Buffalo Joe

    I hope I’m still on the scene when that occurs, Joe. Some will doubtless willingly walk the plank, but others will have to be dragged out kicking and screaming.

  12. “graduated last year with a first class of upper second class degree”

    What on earth does that mean?

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @stillCARealist


    “graduated last year with a first class of upper second class degree”

    What on earth does that mean?
     

    I think it's a typo; 'of' should be 'or', i.e.:

    “graduated last year with a first class or upper second class degree”

  13. @bob sykes
    Which is why I am a fan of RussiaChina and an exAmerican.

    Replies: @Fred C Dobbs, @Anon

    ISteve keeps ruining my day. Every day. LOL

    But seriously….this is so unfckin-believably stupid. The West has literally gone insane. And mostly w/in the space of my lifetime…….

    I’m really not a fan of RussiaChina***, but becoming an ex-American is beginning to seem more and more attractive…..

    Where did you “ex-” to?

    *** Although it will be a joy to watch the reaction from the Moolies once they find themselves under China’s boot. You think you are “put-upon” now, you stupid Darkies? Just wait until the Han runs things. You’ll be praying for the second coming of Cecil Rhodes.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Fred C Dobbs

    If I weren’t within a decade and a half of checking out, I’d be seriously considering vamoosing. On the other hand, I can’t even convince Mme B to get the hell out of Cook County, Illinois.

  14. Smash cut to thousands of minyans all over the globe, gleefully rubbing their hands together so fast, they’ll begin to travel through Time.

  15. @Buffalo Joe
    Won't be any push back from Academia until there is a quota for black professors and the quota is achieved by eliminating white profs.

    Replies: @L Woods, @Massimo Heitor, @MBlanc46

    Hasn’t that basically been the case for quite a while?

    • Replies: @Mishima Zaibatsu
    @L Woods

    More or less.

    From the Telegraph, May 22nd:




    Oxbridge can force old professors to retire in order to boost diversity, tribunal ruling suggests

    ...

    Judge Bedeau said the Prof Pitcher case “exemplifies” the “much vexed question” for employers of how to create opportunities “for the advancement of those in its workforce from different backgrounds to achieve their full potential” while at the same “balancing the needs and interests of those in senior positions who desire to remain employed”.

    John Bowers QC, principal of Brasenose College and an expert in employment law, said the case was “very significant”.

    “It provides a thorough vindication of the University and College position to have a retirement age,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “There is a strong feeling that the only way to keep refreshing the diversity of the academic community is to keep a retirement age.”
     

    Replies: @L Woods

  16. Universities could be punished unless they give a higher proportion of top degrees to black students

    Social promote bn prevent shoe steal sisyphean

  17. we gotta close that gap!

  18. a first class of upper second class degree

    Somebody (in the know) please explain this. Is it much different from the second class of the lower first class degree?

    • LOL: Autochthon
    • Replies: @Jan Sobieski
    @Reg Cæsar

    "A first class or upper second class degree" (note the typo in the original) in the UK corresponds to a bachelor's degree with high honors (magna cum laude) or honors (cum laude) in the U.S.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  19. @Reg Cæsar

    a first class of upper second class degree
     
    Somebody (in the know) please explain this. Is it much different from the second class of the lower first class degree?

    Replies: @Jan Sobieski

    “A first class or upper second class degree” (note the typo in the original) in the UK corresponds to a bachelor’s degree with high honors (magna cum laude) or honors (cum laude) in the U.S.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Jan Sobieski

    Thanks. So what do the British use to mean summa cum laude? Is that, then, an "upper first class" degree?

    Replies: @International Jew

  20. a says:
    @Brian Reilly
    I wonder if that will include medical, nursing, engineering degrees. What a joke, and it will be coming here soon. Before too long, it will not even be required that negroes, maybe queers and trannies as well, attend classes or demonstrate any knowledge fr them to be awarded a degree. Lord help us and them when this time arrives.

    Replies: @a, @Rohirrimborn, @Anon

    Before too long, it will not even be required that negroes, maybe queers and trannies as well, attend classes or demonstrate any knowledge fr them to be awarded a degree.

    Sounds like a good idea actually. You give them a degree and they don’t take the spot of a more deserving student.

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
  21. The government should just automatically confer a PhD on all black people on their twenty-fifth birthday. No achievement = No achievement gap. Problem solved.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Hypnotoad666

    Yeah. The Parthenon and those pyramids didn't build themselves. It would be like a honorary degrees across the aeons.

  22. 78% (white) versus 53% (black) pass rate gives a 0.7 sigma offset using Pearbotham’s curve (due to La Griffe).

  23. @bob sykes
    Which is why I am a fan of RussiaChina and an exAmerican.

    Replies: @Fred C Dobbs, @Anon

    Good for you. Can you piss the f*** off now and stop posting on American websites to tell people how much you hate America? Why don’t you go post on a Chinese or Russian website faggot.

    Oh and of course you had to post first. Just couldn’t wait to tell people how full of hate you are. Couldn’t even let people actually discuss the topic first. As RD Laing once said: At a certain point this begins to look like pathology…

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @Anon

    Uh oh, we got a badass here.

  24. The question – right in the title of the post – that everyone seems to overlook: why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives? Is this caused by bureaucratic inertia, or is this just a case (like in the US) where the “conservative” party pretends to be against certain issues (like a.a.) but actually suports them while in power?

    And actual Brits on here with an answer?

    • Replies: @Simon Tugmutton
    @Wilkey

    The drift to the Left since 1945 is such that Atlee would now be banned from Twitter.

    , @Bill B.
    @Wilkey


    why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives?
     
    There is of course little difference between "conservatives" and "Labour" in the UK now - both are globalist, pro-immigration, pro-oligarch, anti-family parties, propaganda frills aside.

    I urge you to read almost any of the books by Peter Hitchens who is very good, and very bitter, on this.

    Bootlegs are available if you know where to look.

    It is depressing to have confirmed that no matter how idiotic and discredited a progressive idea is it can be shamelessly wheeled out until it becomes the unquestioned rule that one must-not-think-about. I have tended to assume that ultimately the drive for equality and social justice will founder on the rock of HBD reality. But that is not going to happen is it?

    If anyone was truly serious instead of all this sh*t about degree prizes for Africans there should be a big drive to introduce apprenticeships - perhaps with some kind of degree equivalent status for the better ones - which would perhaps finesse the thing.
    , @dfordoom
    @Wilkey


    The question – right in the title of the post – that everyone seems to overlook: why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives?
     
    Because those Conservatives are liberals and always have been.

    Including Margaret Thatcher.
  25. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT:

    Anyone else just get their expiring weekly options position ruined by the Tweeter-in-Chief:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-30/peso-futures-tumble-trump-unleashes-tariffs-mexico-until-illegal-immigration-stops

    Replies: @Lot, @James N. Kennett, @J.Ross, @danand

    The more important question is why are you betting on the Mexican peso?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Lot

    Bet right on the peso, and your weekend in Tijuana is"free"!

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Lot

    I'm not. My options are on the supposedly great US market.

    The real question is why this moron just f'd over 95% of the people involved with equities.

    If he wanted to make a real difference he'd defund the (((NGOs))) at the heart of the problem. No one cares about them.

    Replies: @Lot, @Lot

    , @LondonBob
    @Lot

    I expect his options were on the S&P or DJ and that is his complaint. Personally I am delighted, almost as if Trump was seeking to boost my investment portfolio before the weekend.

    With a little luck the Brexit Party will wipe out the Conservatives the way their sister party was wiped out in Canada in the nineties.

  26. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT:

    Anyone else just get their expiring weekly options position ruined by the Tweeter-in-Chief:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-30/peso-futures-tumble-trump-unleashes-tariffs-mexico-until-illegal-immigration-stops

    Replies: @Lot, @James N. Kennett, @J.Ross, @danand

    Anyone else just get their expiring weekly options position ruined by the Tweeter-in-Chief:

    Interesting. Perhaps the revenue from the tariffs will pay for the Wall, fulfilling Trump’s campaign promise.

    Alternatively, he could go on applying damaging new tariffs and sanctions to random countries until Congress agrees to pay for the Wall.

  27. @stillCARealist
    "graduated last year with a first class of upper second class degree"

    What on earth does that mean?

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    “graduated last year with a first class of upper second class degree”

    What on earth does that mean?

    I think it’s a typo; ‘of’ should be ‘or’, i.e.:

    “graduated last year with a first class or upper second class degree”

  28. 🙁

    Where have you gone, Lord Protector, the Windsors have failed far worse than the Stuarts ever did.

  29. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT:

    Anyone else just get their expiring weekly options position ruined by the Tweeter-in-Chief:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-30/peso-futures-tumble-trump-unleashes-tariffs-mexico-until-illegal-immigration-stops

    Replies: @Lot, @James N. Kennett, @J.Ross, @danand

    What is the point of him doing this if he’s given up on everything else? Is it because he still thinks Mexico will do anything on this issue?

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @J.Ross

    On a positive note Trump is still talking about this issue. On a negative note not much is getting done, and the base seems oblivious to the magnitude of what is happening. Rush and others are curiously not focusing on the border. Daniel Horowitz sums it up nicely:

    https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1134129638614216705

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @J.Ross

    I have the exact same questions my friend.

    I have to wonder if this initiative originates with President Kushner.

  30. If you want to know what happens when engineering degrees are awarded by quota, look up Eskom. Electricity cannot be produced by fiat. This is going to be a hard lesson.

  31. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:

    Translation, please. What’s a “top degree” in a UK context?

    — M.A.s and Ph.D.’s, J.D.s and M.D.s?

    — Phi Beta Kappa-like recognition?

    — Summa cum Laude awards?

    It kind of sounds like a Cum Laude, Magna cum Laude, Summa cum Laude thing, which is directly linked to grades. But if you lower the qualifying grades, you don’t cure the proportionality/gap problem.

    So the only cure would be fake grades for black people, to close the gap. Basically a two-track grading system. This could be done using the “learning styles” neuromyth, maybe separately tracked classes, where blacks learn using a black “learning style,” i.e., blacks could be found in studies to learn better in classes where less material is covered, and it’s all really easy.

    It seems to me that there is a market opportunity here to zag where others zig. Announce that your college will not be dropping its standards, and in fact will be raising them and flunking people out, that any black with a degree from your institution will have earned it and should be recognized for that, and announce that you will fight any new rules despite fines and decredentialization. The powers that be may send you swirling down the toilet, but who knows?, you may pick up public support and the powers that be may be voted out.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anon

    Since tuition fees and student loans were introduced, the numbers of First Class degrees awarded have soared - something like 30% of students get Firsts, even though the cohort on average is much less bright (about 45% of 18 year olds head for uni, as compared with about 1o% in 1975). Universities are selling a product these days.

    When I was at university, there were some courses that might only award a solitary First every other year.

    So a First is (at least in a STEM subject) a guarantee of hard work and reasonable intellect. It used to mean exceptional intellect.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8235115/Dumbing-down-of-university-grades-revealed.html


    The university which awarded the highest proportion of firsts in 2010 was Imperial, with 29 per cent compared with the 20 per cent it granted in 1970, although these higher-than-average figures may be partly explained by the fact that science and engineering, the subjects in which Imperial specialises, generally award more first class honours - and that the institution sets very high entry requirements.

    Imperial was followed by Warwick, Bath and Cambridge, which all awarded firsts to 23 per cent of graduates. In comparison, in 1970 Warwick awarded firsts to just 6 per cent of graduates, Bath 8 per cent and Cambridge 13 per cent.

    The universities awarding the highest proportion of firsts or 2:1s last year were Exeter, where 82 per cent of graduates received the top degrees compared with just 29 per cent in 1970, and St Andrews – Scotland's oldest university, where Prince William met fiancée Kate Middleton – where the figure was also 82 per cent compared with just 25 per cent in 1970.
     

    This report is from 2011, it's only got worse since. In other news, with only 45% of the population going to university, the UK apparently has "a skills shortage" !

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48443716


    "Some of the labour market shortages, particularly in engineering and health, have existed for decades and are clearly getting worse.

    It begs serious questions about the quantity and quality of technical and vocational training in the country"

     

  32. @Redneck farmer
    @Jack D

    DA, COMMISAR!

    Replies: @AKAHorace

    DA, COMMISAR!

    Your comment is a bit unfair to the Soviet Union. They were repressive but respected education.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @AKAHorace

    Never underestimate the power of projection in a Redneck. He thinks that any problem of United States, no matter how big, no matter how Afroamerican, can be blamed on Stalin.

    , @MBlanc46
    @AKAHorace

    They respected education as long as one assented without reservation to Marxism/Leninism/(Stalinism).

  33. Will some kind Briton help with the twee jargon?: Is a “school leaver” a graduate (presumably from secondary school, since these “leavers” are to be admitted to universities), or a dropout (it would not at all surprise me that GloboHomo is now calling for high-school dropouts to be admitted to universities), or something else?

    • Replies: @Graham
    @Autochthon

    'Twee' doesn't mean what you think it does. Try 'different' or 'foreign' or 'I can't be bothered to look it up'.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  34. istevefan says:
    @J.Ross
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    What is the point of him doing this if he's given up on everything else? Is it because he still thinks Mexico will do anything on this issue?

    Replies: @istevefan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    On a positive note Trump is still talking about this issue. On a negative note not much is getting done, and the base seems oblivious to the magnitude of what is happening. Rush and others are curiously not focusing on the border. Daniel Horowitz sums it up nicely:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @istevefan


    If the conservative base and talk radio listeners were clued in to the extent of what is going on at our border and interior from illegal immigration as they are the Mueller saga, we would have a revolution.
     
    I just saw a trailer for Ai Weiwei's Human Flow, about today's purported refugees. After watching the DVD it was on (Generation Wealth), I Googled it, but forgot the title, and entered "human wave" instead.

    But hell, the "human flow" and the "human wave" are pretty much the same thing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_wave_attack

    Speaking of Generation Wealth, did Steve review that? Did his Notre Dame take on Crossroads in debate?

  35. We’ve had Plaques for Blacks.

    Now for Degrees for Fly Gs.

  36. @Jan Sobieski
    @Reg Cæsar

    "A first class or upper second class degree" (note the typo in the original) in the UK corresponds to a bachelor's degree with high honors (magna cum laude) or honors (cum laude) in the U.S.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Thanks. So what do the British use to mean summa cum laude? Is that, then, an “upper first class” degree?

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Autochthon

    Whoever answers that could maybe also tell me what a "triple first" is.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1413478/Abba-Eban.html

  37. @TWS
    Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials. If d-level celebs can get their moron 200 SAT kids into the school for cash and nobody notices, how tough can it be? If the average grade at Harvard is a B+ what do they mean? If every other student is an affirmative action charity case what use are they?

    Replies: @Massimo Heitor, @black sea

    Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials.

    That’s a pretty big exception there. Degrees are worthless except for providing valuable access to higher paying careers.

    • Replies: @Felix M
    @Massimo Heitor

    Massimo Heitor asks, "Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials".

    The point matters because degrees are an important part of qualifying for academic positions at colleges/ universities.

    The longer term effect will be that colleges employ less qualified people, and that our knowledge base ceases to expand and actually contracts.

  38. @Buffalo Joe
    Won't be any push back from Academia until there is a quota for black professors and the quota is achieved by eliminating white profs.

    Replies: @L Woods, @Massimo Heitor, @MBlanc46

    Won’t be any push back from Academia…

    There is huge and growing demand for drastic higher education reforms. It may or may not come from academia, but the current model is not ideal and inefficient in a variety of ways

  39. @Autochthon
    @Jan Sobieski

    Thanks. So what do the British use to mean summa cum laude? Is that, then, an "upper first class" degree?

    Replies: @International Jew

    Whoever answers that could maybe also tell me what a “triple first” is.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1413478/Abba-Eban.html

  40. i think this african worship stuff gets kinda weird. because it’s clearly african worship, and really nothing at all to do with multicultural society.

    there’s never any kind of similar forced government forced programs for other groups. in UK there’s no indians or pakistanis in sports. should teams be forced to have a guy on every roster, pay them league minimum, and sit them on the bench? if not, why not.

    in the US, there’s more mexicans than africans now. but nobody is trying to force mexicans into everything.

    i do think this goes beyond the usual suspects and involves some kind of bizarre african fetish a percentage of western leaders have for them. i guess because africans in particular can barely do anything, so bureaucrats and busy bodies are always looking to elevate a few africans artificially, because it makes them feel good.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @prime noticer


    in UK there’s no indians or pakistanis in sports.
     
    Wat is krickkit pls?
    Oh and boxing.

    I like the fact that nobody on the face of this Earth has the faintest conception of what goes on in the British Isles. Simply no idea at all. Can't be seen through the permafog and rainy gloom, I suppose, like the Cimmerians.
    Well, apart from the Aussies and Kiwis, but they just use their superior knowledge to troll and torment us with sledging and bantz.
    It's good to be an infinitely malleable fantasy-land, living rent-free in foreigners' woolly heads. But otherwise ignored and not interfered with. Just held up as an entirely imaginary Awful Warning to their fellow provincials.
    , @Massimo Heitor
    @prime noticer


    i think this african worship stuff gets kinda weird. because it’s clearly african worship, and really nothing at all to do with multicultural society.
     
    Not worship. No need to exaggerate.

    They are buying political favor with racial groups and political racial interest groups.

    While I despise the political progressives aligned with that racial politics, the current western model of higher ed is unfair to people who don't graduate from college. I'm genuinely sympathetic with normal people all races, including blacks, who get unfairly excluded from desirable career tracks by the higher ed model.
  41. @Wilkey
    The question - right in the title of the post - that everyone seems to overlook: why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives? Is this caused by bureaucratic inertia, or is this just a case (like in the US) where the "conservative" party pretends to be against certain issues (like a.a.) but actually suports them while in power?

    And actual Brits on here with an answer?

    Replies: @Simon Tugmutton, @Bill B., @dfordoom

    The drift to the Left since 1945 is such that Atlee would now be banned from Twitter.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  42. if aboriginies and bushmen were more common and widespread, would they get extra double affirmative action and free credentials, or would they simply be lumped in with the africans?

    according to what australians actually seem to say on the internet, aboriginies are genuinely completely useless, and you can just give them all the free stuff in the world and they can never do anything with it. they are so not capable in any way, even with free everything they’re not a danger to anybody else. only to themselves.

    but in the US when you start letting africans be CEO or mayor, things go downhill quickly. they actually know how to use and abuse power and authority, and they do it effectively, and maintain it from generation to generation until forcibly removed.

    there’s an over 20 point difference between them on intelligence tests, so that really makes a difference, going up from the 60s, which must be the “truly can’t do anything zone”, to the 80s, which puts you into the “can take your stuff” zone.

  43. @TWS
    Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials. If d-level celebs can get their moron 200 SAT kids into the school for cash and nobody notices, how tough can it be? If the average grade at Harvard is a B+ what do they mean? If every other student is an affirmative action charity case what use are they?

    Replies: @Massimo Heitor, @black sea

    Just to expand a little on this point, the most frequently awarded grade at Harvard is an A, and more than half of the grades awarded are A- or higher.

    The average GPA at Harvard is 3.65.

    89% of seniors have a GPA of B+ or higher.

    Legacy students have slightly higher GPAs at Harvard than non-legacies.

    21% of seniors admitted to having cheated during their time at Harvard.

    Make of it what you will.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @black sea

    Basically, in 2019: A = A in 1959
    A- = B in 1959
    B+ = C in 1959

    The system sort of works, but still ...

  44. @Wilkey
    The question - right in the title of the post - that everyone seems to overlook: why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives? Is this caused by bureaucratic inertia, or is this just a case (like in the US) where the "conservative" party pretends to be against certain issues (like a.a.) but actually suports them while in power?

    And actual Brits on here with an answer?

    Replies: @Simon Tugmutton, @Bill B., @dfordoom

    why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives?

    There is of course little difference between “conservatives” and “Labour” in the UK now – both are globalist, pro-immigration, pro-oligarch, anti-family parties, propaganda frills aside.

    I urge you to read almost any of the books by Peter Hitchens who is very good, and very bitter, on this.

    Bootlegs are available if you know where to look.

    It is depressing to have confirmed that no matter how idiotic and discredited a progressive idea is it can be shamelessly wheeled out until it becomes the unquestioned rule that one must-not-think-about. I have tended to assume that ultimately the drive for equality and social justice will founder on the rock of HBD reality. But that is not going to happen is it?

    If anyone was truly serious instead of all this sh*t about degree prizes for Africans there should be a big drive to introduce apprenticeships – perhaps with some kind of degree equivalent status for the better ones – which would perhaps finesse the thing.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  45. @istevefan
    @J.Ross

    On a positive note Trump is still talking about this issue. On a negative note not much is getting done, and the base seems oblivious to the magnitude of what is happening. Rush and others are curiously not focusing on the border. Daniel Horowitz sums it up nicely:

    https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1134129638614216705

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If the conservative base and talk radio listeners were clued in to the extent of what is going on at our border and interior from illegal immigration as they are the Mueller saga, we would have a revolution.

    I just saw a trailer for Ai Weiwei’s Human Flow, about today’s purported refugees. After watching the DVD it was on (Generation Wealth), I Googled it, but forgot the title, and entered “human wave” instead.

    But hell, the “human flow” and the “human wave” are pretty much the same thing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_wave_attack

    Speaking of Generation Wealth, did Steve review that? Did his Notre Dame take on Crossroads in debate?

  46. @Hypnotoad666
    The government should just automatically confer a PhD on all black people on their twenty-fifth birthday. No achievement = No achievement gap. Problem solved.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Yeah. The Parthenon and those pyramids didn’t build themselves. It would be like a honorary degrees across the aeons.

  47. Call it the modern equivalent to shaving coins.

  48. Meanwhile in the City That Never Sleeps:

    3 white women sue ‘totalitarian’ diversity-obsessed NYC school system for discrimination

    “Under Carranza’s leadership, [the Department of Education] has swiftly and irrevocably silenced, sidelined and punished plaintiffs and other Caucasian female DOE employees on the basis of their race, gender and unwillingness to accept their other colleagues’ hateful stereotypes about them,” the suit, filed on Tuesday in New York state Supreme Court, reads.

    Despite Murray’s role in leading anti-bias programs during her 13 years in the system, she, too, was demoted – partially for the unpardonable sin of being from Westchester, a wealthy white suburb she realized the management expressly reviled after being forced to watch a professional development video that blamed black poverty on the proliferation of white suburbs. Her newly-appointed black supervisors forced her to report her work every 30 minutes to harass and degrade her, she claims, and even used her disability to humiliate her.

    Told to “take a step back and yield to colleagues of color” and “recognize that values of white culture are supremacist,” Herrera, a 33-year veteran of city schools, claims she was stripped of her title and demoted – despite being publicly praised for her performance the previous year – after she was held responsible for the racial inequities in the school system. Humiliated by her unqualified replacement, a black man promoted over her without so much as an interview, Herrera was subjected to a string of racist indignities that included a professional workshop where a black presenter decried the “‘white middle class values’ that were plaguing society,” framing the struggle as “us vs. them” – with Herrera the unfortunate “them” in the equation.

    It’s a Black Village complete with Village Elders!

  49. @Autochthon
    Will some kind Briton help with the twee jargon?: Is a "school leaver" a graduate (presumably from secondary school, since these "leavers" are to be admitted to universities), or a dropout (it would not at all surprise me that GloboHomo is now calling for high-school dropouts to be admitted to universities), or something else?

    https://youtu.be/wHPmF34mgiw

    Replies: @Graham

    ‘Twee’ doesn’t mean what you think it does. Try ‘different’ or ‘foreign’ or ‘I can’t be bothered to look it up’.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Graham

    Though I know full well what twee means, I provide here a helpful reference to the work of Merriam-Webster for your own education:

    twee adjective \ ˈtwē \
    Definition of twee
    chiefly British: affectedly or excessively dainty, delicate, cute, or quaint

    Thanks for your kind, insightful, and substantive response. Whenever I encounter in a public forum a question I cannot (or do not wish to) answer, I also make a point of instead snarkily insulting the questioner, alleging he misunderstands words he in fact understands and uses them quite correctly. Please do carry on teaching your grandmother to suck eggs.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

  50. @Anon
    Translation, please. What's a "top degree" in a UK context?

    -- M.A.s and Ph.D.'s, J.D.s and M.D.s?

    -- Phi Beta Kappa-like recognition?

    -- Summa cum Laude awards?

    It kind of sounds like a Cum Laude, Magna cum Laude, Summa cum Laude thing, which is directly linked to grades. But if you lower the qualifying grades, you don't cure the proportionality/gap problem.

    So the only cure would be fake grades for black people, to close the gap. Basically a two-track grading system. This could be done using the "learning styles" neuromyth, maybe separately tracked classes, where blacks learn using a black "learning style," i.e., blacks could be found in studies to learn better in classes where less material is covered, and it's all really easy.

    It seems to me that there is a market opportunity here to zag where others zig. Announce that your college will not be dropping its standards, and in fact will be raising them and flunking people out, that any black with a degree from your institution will have earned it and should be recognized for that, and announce that you will fight any new rules despite fines and decredentialization. The powers that be may send you swirling down the toilet, but who knows?, you may pick up public support and the powers that be may be voted out.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Since tuition fees and student loans were introduced, the numbers of First Class degrees awarded have soared – something like 30% of students get Firsts, even though the cohort on average is much less bright (about 45% of 18 year olds head for uni, as compared with about 1o% in 1975). Universities are selling a product these days.

    When I was at university, there were some courses that might only award a solitary First every other year.

    So a First is (at least in a STEM subject) a guarantee of hard work and reasonable intellect. It used to mean exceptional intellect.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8235115/Dumbing-down-of-university-grades-revealed.html

    The university which awarded the highest proportion of firsts in 2010 was Imperial, with 29 per cent compared with the 20 per cent it granted in 1970, although these higher-than-average figures may be partly explained by the fact that science and engineering, the subjects in which Imperial specialises, generally award more first class honours – and that the institution sets very high entry requirements.

    Imperial was followed by Warwick, Bath and Cambridge, which all awarded firsts to 23 per cent of graduates. In comparison, in 1970 Warwick awarded firsts to just 6 per cent of graduates, Bath 8 per cent and Cambridge 13 per cent.

    The universities awarding the highest proportion of firsts or 2:1s last year were Exeter, where 82 per cent of graduates received the top degrees compared with just 29 per cent in 1970, and St Andrews – Scotland’s oldest university, where Prince William met fiancée Kate Middleton – where the figure was also 82 per cent compared with just 25 per cent in 1970.

    This report is from 2011, it’s only got worse since. In other news, with only 45% of the population going to university, the UK apparently has “a skills shortage” !

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48443716

    “Some of the labour market shortages, particularly in engineering and health, have existed for decades and are clearly getting worse.

    It begs serious questions about the quantity and quality of technical and vocational training in the country”

  51. @Lot
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The more important question is why are you betting on the Mexican peso?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @LondonBob

    Bet right on the peso, and your weekend in Tijuana is”free”!

  52. @The Wild Geese Howard
    OT:

    Anyone else just get their expiring weekly options position ruined by the Tweeter-in-Chief:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-30/peso-futures-tumble-trump-unleashes-tariffs-mexico-until-illegal-immigration-stops

    Replies: @Lot, @James N. Kennett, @J.Ross, @danand

    Howard,

    Not this Friday, but it does make one wonder: who in Trump’s orbit might have/get a heads up on these proclamations?

  53. This is being demanded by the UK’s conservative government, I shudder to think what their liberal government would demand?

  54. @Brian Reilly
    I wonder if that will include medical, nursing, engineering degrees. What a joke, and it will be coming here soon. Before too long, it will not even be required that negroes, maybe queers and trannies as well, attend classes or demonstrate any knowledge fr them to be awarded a degree. Lord help us and them when this time arrives.

    Replies: @a, @Rohirrimborn, @Anon

    That time arrived decades ago. Read (if you can bear it) Michelle Obama’s senior thesis while at Princeton. Pure gibberish. Barack didn’t even have to write a word while editor of the Harvard Law Review.

  55. @Lot
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The more important question is why are you betting on the Mexican peso?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @LondonBob

    I’m not. My options are on the supposedly great US market.

    The real question is why this moron just f’d over 95% of the people involved with equities.

    If he wanted to make a real difference he’d defund the (((NGOs))) at the heart of the problem. No one cares about them.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The US market is down a whole 1% today after a 20% increase since his election.

    Trump’s job is to protect the USA, not its stock market, which is heavily owned by the 1% and foreigners.

    And since you asked, I am up today since I have more long bonds than stocks. But I’d support him just the same here. Mexico is winking and nodding at the migration flood, just like the Turks did in Europe.

    I highly doubt it was Kushner who looked up this law that Trump is using and the I never heard of before this week.

    , @Lot
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    “If he wanted to make a real difference he’d defund the (((NGOs))) at the heart of the problem”

    The refugee resettlement nonprofits (like Somali in Minnesota specialist (((Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service)))) have lost about 75-80% of their federal funding because the number of official refugees have gone down by that much.

    I am not aware of other types of NGOs that receive federal funding.

  56. @J.Ross
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    What is the point of him doing this if he's given up on everything else? Is it because he still thinks Mexico will do anything on this issue?

    Replies: @istevefan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I have the exact same questions my friend.

    I have to wonder if this initiative originates with President Kushner.

  57. @Brian Reilly
    I wonder if that will include medical, nursing, engineering degrees. What a joke, and it will be coming here soon. Before too long, it will not even be required that negroes, maybe queers and trannies as well, attend classes or demonstrate any knowledge fr them to be awarded a degree. Lord help us and them when this time arrives.

    Replies: @a, @Rohirrimborn, @Anon

    It will SO SAD when bn will get the same degrees as the intelligent and hard-working Jared and Ivanka.

  58. @AKAHorace
    @Redneck farmer


    DA, COMMISAR!
     
    Your comment is a bit unfair to the Soviet Union. They were repressive but respected education.

    Replies: @Anon, @MBlanc46

    Never underestimate the power of projection in a Redneck. He thinks that any problem of United States, no matter how big, no matter how Afroamerican, can be blamed on Stalin.

  59. @prime noticer
    i think this african worship stuff gets kinda weird. because it's clearly african worship, and really nothing at all to do with multicultural society.

    there's never any kind of similar forced government forced programs for other groups. in UK there's no indians or pakistanis in sports. should teams be forced to have a guy on every roster, pay them league minimum, and sit them on the bench? if not, why not.

    in the US, there's more mexicans than africans now. but nobody is trying to force mexicans into everything.

    i do think this goes beyond the usual suspects and involves some kind of bizarre african fetish a percentage of western leaders have for them. i guess because africans in particular can barely do anything, so bureaucrats and busy bodies are always looking to elevate a few africans artificially, because it makes them feel good.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted, @Massimo Heitor

    in UK there’s no indians or pakistanis in sports.

    Wat is krickkit pls?
    Oh and boxing.

    I like the fact that nobody on the face of this Earth has the faintest conception of what goes on in the British Isles. Simply no idea at all. Can’t be seen through the permafog and rainy gloom, I suppose, like the Cimmerians.
    Well, apart from the Aussies and Kiwis, but they just use their superior knowledge to troll and torment us with sledging and bantz.
    It’s good to be an infinitely malleable fantasy-land, living rent-free in foreigners’ woolly heads. But otherwise ignored and not interfered with. Just held up as an entirely imaginary Awful Warning to their fellow provincials.

  60. @Graham
    @Autochthon

    'Twee' doesn't mean what you think it does. Try 'different' or 'foreign' or 'I can't be bothered to look it up'.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Though I know full well what twee means, I provide here a helpful reference to the work of Merriam-Webster for your own education:

    twee adjective \ ˈtwē \
    Definition of twee
    chiefly British: affectedly or excessively dainty, delicate, cute, or quaint

    Thanks for your kind, insightful, and substantive response. Whenever I encounter in a public forum a question I cannot (or do not wish to) answer, I also make a point of instead snarkily insulting the questioner, alleging he misunderstands words he in fact understands and uses them quite correctly. Please do carry on teaching your grandmother to suck eggs.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Autochthon

    Wowza.

    My brother was always telling me to suck rocks. It's just as rude, but there will be even less reward from sucking a rock vs. an egg. I, in turn, would tell him to bite the wall.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  61. @Wilkey
    The question - right in the title of the post - that everyone seems to overlook: why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives? Is this caused by bureaucratic inertia, or is this just a case (like in the US) where the "conservative" party pretends to be against certain issues (like a.a.) but actually suports them while in power?

    And actual Brits on here with an answer?

    Replies: @Simon Tugmutton, @Bill B., @dfordoom

    The question – right in the title of the post – that everyone seems to overlook: why do we keep hearing about shit like this happening in a country run by alleged conservatives?

    Because those Conservatives are liberals and always have been.

    Including Margaret Thatcher.

  62. @Lot
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The more important question is why are you betting on the Mexican peso?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @The Wild Geese Howard, @LondonBob

    I expect his options were on the S&P or DJ and that is his complaint. Personally I am delighted, almost as if Trump was seeking to boost my investment portfolio before the weekend.

    With a little luck the Brexit Party will wipe out the Conservatives the way their sister party was wiped out in Canada in the nineties.

  63. The obvious solution: Universities require 23&Me results as part of the application, and classify anyone with 0.1% African heritage as “Black”. “Black” and “White” First and Second Degree attainment equalizes, and everyone is happy.

  64. @L Woods
    @Buffalo Joe

    Hasn't that basically been the case for quite a while?

    Replies: @Mishima Zaibatsu

    More or less.

    From the Telegraph, May 22nd:

    Oxbridge can force old professors to retire in order to boost diversity, tribunal ruling suggests

    Judge Bedeau said the Prof Pitcher case “exemplifies” the “much vexed question” for employers of how to create opportunities “for the advancement of those in its workforce from different backgrounds to achieve their full potential” while at the same “balancing the needs and interests of those in senior positions who desire to remain employed”.

    John Bowers QC, principal of Brasenose College and an expert in employment law, said the case was “very significant”.

    “It provides a thorough vindication of the University and College position to have a retirement age,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “There is a strong feeling that the only way to keep refreshing the diversity of the academic community is to keep a retirement age.”

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @Mishima Zaibatsu

    Of course, they wouldn’t force the boomers out to make room for the next generation in general. But anything for the Diverse.

  65. Hey Lot – Bet you wouldn’t be praising Cromwell if instead of the Irish he had attempted religious/ethnic genocide against , well , you know

  66. @Autochthon
    @Graham

    Though I know full well what twee means, I provide here a helpful reference to the work of Merriam-Webster for your own education:

    twee adjective \ ˈtwē \
    Definition of twee
    chiefly British: affectedly or excessively dainty, delicate, cute, or quaint

    Thanks for your kind, insightful, and substantive response. Whenever I encounter in a public forum a question I cannot (or do not wish to) answer, I also make a point of instead snarkily insulting the questioner, alleging he misunderstands words he in fact understands and uses them quite correctly. Please do carry on teaching your grandmother to suck eggs.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Wowza.

    My brother was always telling me to suck rocks. It’s just as rude, but there will be even less reward from sucking a rock vs. an egg. I, in turn, would tell him to bite the wall.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @stillCARealist

    Thanks...I think. It's an antient, specific barb, not merely a generic insult, and not meant to be vulgar the way insults about sucking so many other things are; it explicitly implies the target is being didactically condescending about a topic which the insulter is already familiar with, and probably more so than the target. The insult has an estimable lineage, growing from the Roman quip SUS MINERVAM DOCET:

    Me harías enseñar a mi abuela a sorber los huevos. – Francisco de Quevedo (1707)

    Go! Teach your grannam to suck eggs! – Jonathan Swift (1738)

    It probably evolved from the variant "teach your grandma to grope ducks (or geese)" – to grope a fowl was to gauge the distance between her hips, which distance indicates whether she is still laying eggs or not (an unproductive fowl would be eaten). This stuff was all of course common work for the lady of the house, so to purport to teach a matriarch about managing poultry was a presumptuous thing.

    I'm unashamed to confess I first learned the phrase from Ren the Chihuahua when I was but a lad, and I instantly loved it and investigated its significance, which I find delightfully useful.

    https://youtu.be/eVM1nUmDHHc

  67. @Mishima Zaibatsu
    @L Woods

    More or less.

    From the Telegraph, May 22nd:




    Oxbridge can force old professors to retire in order to boost diversity, tribunal ruling suggests

    ...

    Judge Bedeau said the Prof Pitcher case “exemplifies” the “much vexed question” for employers of how to create opportunities “for the advancement of those in its workforce from different backgrounds to achieve their full potential” while at the same “balancing the needs and interests of those in senior positions who desire to remain employed”.

    John Bowers QC, principal of Brasenose College and an expert in employment law, said the case was “very significant”.

    “It provides a thorough vindication of the University and College position to have a retirement age,” he told The Daily Telegraph. “There is a strong feeling that the only way to keep refreshing the diversity of the academic community is to keep a retirement age.”
     

    Replies: @L Woods

    Of course, they wouldn’t force the boomers out to make room for the next generation in general. But anything for the Diverse.

  68. @prime noticer
    i think this african worship stuff gets kinda weird. because it's clearly african worship, and really nothing at all to do with multicultural society.

    there's never any kind of similar forced government forced programs for other groups. in UK there's no indians or pakistanis in sports. should teams be forced to have a guy on every roster, pay them league minimum, and sit them on the bench? if not, why not.

    in the US, there's more mexicans than africans now. but nobody is trying to force mexicans into everything.

    i do think this goes beyond the usual suspects and involves some kind of bizarre african fetish a percentage of western leaders have for them. i guess because africans in particular can barely do anything, so bureaucrats and busy bodies are always looking to elevate a few africans artificially, because it makes them feel good.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted, @Massimo Heitor

    i think this african worship stuff gets kinda weird. because it’s clearly african worship, and really nothing at all to do with multicultural society.

    Not worship. No need to exaggerate.

    They are buying political favor with racial groups and political racial interest groups.

    While I despise the political progressives aligned with that racial politics, the current western model of higher ed is unfair to people who don’t graduate from college. I’m genuinely sympathetic with normal people all races, including blacks, who get unfairly excluded from desirable career tracks by the higher ed model.

  69. Lot says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Lot

    I'm not. My options are on the supposedly great US market.

    The real question is why this moron just f'd over 95% of the people involved with equities.

    If he wanted to make a real difference he'd defund the (((NGOs))) at the heart of the problem. No one cares about them.

    Replies: @Lot, @Lot

    The US market is down a whole 1% today after a 20% increase since his election.

    Trump’s job is to protect the USA, not its stock market, which is heavily owned by the 1% and foreigners.

    And since you asked, I am up today since I have more long bonds than stocks. But I’d support him just the same here. Mexico is winking and nodding at the migration flood, just like the Turks did in Europe.

    I highly doubt it was Kushner who looked up this law that Trump is using and the I never heard of before this week.

  70. @Anon
    @bob sykes

    Good for you. Can you piss the f*** off now and stop posting on American websites to tell people how much you hate America? Why don't you go post on a Chinese or Russian website faggot.

    Oh and of course you had to post first. Just couldn't wait to tell people how full of hate you are. Couldn't even let people actually discuss the topic first. As RD Laing once said: At a certain point this begins to look like pathology...

    Replies: @L Woods

    Uh oh, we got a badass here.

  71. Lot says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Lot

    I'm not. My options are on the supposedly great US market.

    The real question is why this moron just f'd over 95% of the people involved with equities.

    If he wanted to make a real difference he'd defund the (((NGOs))) at the heart of the problem. No one cares about them.

    Replies: @Lot, @Lot

    “If he wanted to make a real difference he’d defund the (((NGOs))) at the heart of the problem”

    The refugee resettlement nonprofits (like Somali in Minnesota specialist (((Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service)))) have lost about 75-80% of their federal funding because the number of official refugees have gone down by that much.

    I am not aware of other types of NGOs that receive federal funding.

  72. Oxbridge can force old professors to retire in order to boost diversity, tribunal ruling suggests

    No word of a lie, that registered in my knackered post-demolition-work (plus 2 Old-Fashioneds) brain as “order to boost diversity, tribal ruler suggests“.
    I’ve been lurking and reading here too long …

  73. @stillCARealist
    @Autochthon

    Wowza.

    My brother was always telling me to suck rocks. It's just as rude, but there will be even less reward from sucking a rock vs. an egg. I, in turn, would tell him to bite the wall.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Thanks…I think. It’s an antient, specific barb, not merely a generic insult, and not meant to be vulgar the way insults about sucking so many other things are; it explicitly implies the target is being didactically condescending about a topic which the insulter is already familiar with, and probably more so than the target. The insult has an estimable lineage, growing from the Roman quip SUS MINERVAM DOCET:

    Me harías enseñar a mi abuela a sorber los huevos. – Francisco de Quevedo (1707)

    Go! Teach your grannam to suck eggs! – Jonathan Swift (1738)

    It probably evolved from the variant “teach your grandma to grope ducks (or geese)” – to grope a fowl was to gauge the distance between her hips, which distance indicates whether she is still laying eggs or not (an unproductive fowl would be eaten). This stuff was all of course common work for the lady of the house, so to purport to teach a matriarch about managing poultry was a presumptuous thing.

    I’m unashamed to confess I first learned the phrase from Ren the Chihuahua when I was but a lad, and I instantly loved it and investigated its significance, which I find delightfully useful.

  74. @black sea
    @TWS

    Just to expand a little on this point, the most frequently awarded grade at Harvard is an A, and more than half of the grades awarded are A- or higher.

    The average GPA at Harvard is 3.65.

    89% of seniors have a GPA of B+ or higher.

    Legacy students have slightly higher GPAs at Harvard than non-legacies.

    21% of seniors admitted to having cheated during their time at Harvard.


    Make of it what you will.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Basically, in 2019: A = A in 1959
    A- = B in 1959
    B+ = C in 1959

    The system sort of works, but still …

  75. @Massimo Heitor
    @TWS


    Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials.
     
    That's a pretty big exception there. Degrees are worthless except for providing valuable access to higher paying careers.

    Replies: @Felix M

    Massimo Heitor asks, “Why bother anymore? The degrees are worthless except as credentials“.

    The point matters because degrees are an important part of qualifying for academic positions at colleges/ universities.

    The longer term effect will be that colleges employ less qualified people, and that our knowledge base ceases to expand and actually contracts.

  76. @Buffalo Joe
    Won't be any push back from Academia until there is a quota for black professors and the quota is achieved by eliminating white profs.

    Replies: @L Woods, @Massimo Heitor, @MBlanc46

    I hope I’m still on the scene when that occurs, Joe. Some will doubtless willingly walk the plank, but others will have to be dragged out kicking and screaming.

  77. @Fred C Dobbs
    @bob sykes

    ISteve keeps ruining my day. Every day. LOL

    But seriously....this is so unfckin-believably stupid. The West has literally gone insane. And mostly w/in the space of my lifetime.......

    I'm really not a fan of RussiaChina***, but becoming an ex-American is beginning to seem more and more attractive.....

    Where did you "ex-" to?

    *** Although it will be a joy to watch the reaction from the Moolies once they find themselves under China's boot. You think you are "put-upon" now, you stupid Darkies? Just wait until the Han runs things. You'll be praying for the second coming of Cecil Rhodes.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    If I weren’t within a decade and a half of checking out, I’d be seriously considering vamoosing. On the other hand, I can’t even convince Mme B to get the hell out of Cook County, Illinois.

  78. @AKAHorace
    @Redneck farmer


    DA, COMMISAR!
     
    Your comment is a bit unfair to the Soviet Union. They were repressive but respected education.

    Replies: @Anon, @MBlanc46

    They respected education as long as one assented without reservation to Marxism/Leninism/(Stalinism).

  79. They respected education as long as one assented without reservation to Marxism/Leninism/(Stalinism).

    Or, to put it another way, they respected education as long as it wasn’t used to undermine their society. Because they weren’t fools.

    In the West over the past half century we have respected education as long as it was used to undermine our society. Because we are fools.

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