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That anti-enforcement organizations funded by the Soros family have been pouring often decisive amounts of money into previously obscure county-level races for district attorney used to be considered news, but now is considered an unmentionable anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.

For example, from way back in 2018, here is a long Los Angeles Times news story on the Soros efforts that was funded and written, in part, by a Soros-funded group:

Here’s why George Soros, liberal groups are spending big to help decide who’s your next D.A.

New York billionaire George Soros headlines a consortium of private funders targeting four of California’s 56 district attorney positions up for election June 5.

By PAIGE ST. JOHN, ABBIE VANSICKLE
MAY 23, 2018 AM

In most district attorney elections, the campaign playbook is clear: Win over the local cops and talk tough on crime.

But in California this year, the strategy is being turned on its head.

Wealthy donors are spending millions of dollars to back would-be prosecutors who want to reduce incarceration, crack down on police misconduct and revamp a bail system they contend unfairly imprisons poor people before trial.

The effort is part of a years-long campaign by liberal groups to reshape the nation’s criminal justice system. New York billionaire George Soros headlines a consortium of private funders, the American Civil Liberties Union and other social justice groups and Democratic activists targeting four of the 56 district attorney positions up for election on June 5. Five other California candidates are receiving lesser support.

The cash infusion in the nonpartisan elections turns underdog challengers into contenders for one of the most powerful positions in local justice systems, roiling conventional law-and-order politics.

In San Diego County, the groups back a deputy public defender who spent her legal career trying to keep the accused out of jail, not lock them up. …

The challengers have matched or surpassed the millions of dollars — mostly from police, prosecutors and local business — flowing to incumbents unaccustomed to such organized liberal opposition.

But the coordination between big money and advocacy groups that don’t have to reveal their funding sources is largely out of public view.

The campaign has alarmed some law-and-order prosecutors, who warn that discretion over which laws to enforce and how has its limits.

“These people who want to create their own social policy are not worthy of the office,” said former Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley. “If they win in San Diego or Sacramento, L.A. is next.”

As indeed it is in the November 2020 runoff in Los Angeles Country between the anti-crime incumbent, a black woman named Jackie Lacey, and the Steve Martin-looking George Gascon funded by the Soros alliance.

… Where law-and-order campaigns appeal to fear, the new strategy targets anger.

One issue that has caught fire is police shootings.

“It’s really coming from this Black Lives Matter moment of police accountability,” said Margaret Dooley-Sammuli, criminal justice and drug policy director for the ACLU of California. …

In Sacramento County, where liberal activists are embedded directly in the insurgent campaign of Noah Phillips, the deputy prosecutor is attacking his boss’ record of having never charged a police officer who shot a civilian.

Phillips credits Soros’ team for scripting and paying for his television ad.

… At the same time, Black Lives Matter activists were holding near-daily protests on the doorstep of Phillips’ opponent, career prosecutor Anne Marie Schubert.

… Half of Phillips’ money is from Soros.

… In San Diego, the county’s limit of $800 for individual contributions forces campaigners to work independently of their favored candidate, Geneviéve Jones-Wright.

Soros has supplied more than $1.5 million to a political action committee to promote the deputy public defender waging a longshot bid for D.A. National liberal organizations have joined the fight for Jones-Wright, as have wealthy Silicon Valley donors. …

Jones-Wright rejects descriptions of her funding as an outside threat by groups trying to buy a national agenda, one county at a time. Soros’ money, she said, gives a voice to poor and minority communities often ignored in prosecutor races.

“I love it!” she told lawyers at a recent fundraiser. “If he didn’t take an interest in this campaign, it would be an even more uneven playing field.”

Alameda County Dist. Atty. Nancy O’Malley has expressed surprise that she’s a Soros target. The registered Democrat showcases endorsements not only from police leaders but also Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), organized labor and Democratic clubs.

Her opponent, civil rights lawyer Pamela Price, criticizes O’Malley’s ties with law enforcement, including political donations from police unions. Mailers sent by Soros’ PAC condemn “racist” stop-and-frisk policies and promise Price would end them. …

Soros, whose spending as of this week in California topped $2.7 million, is the most visible part of the national movement to sway county prosecutor races. Since 2014, he has spent more than $16 million in 17 county races in other states. His favored candidates won in 13.

One of them, Philadelphia Dist. Atty. Larry Krasner, fired 31 prosecutors during his first week on the job in January. Calling for an end to “mass incarceration,” Krasner also ordered the rest of his office to stop prosecuting marijuana possession, steer more defendants toward diversion programs and announce at sentencing hearings how much a prison term would cost taxpayers.

After her 2016 victory in Houston, Kim Ogg announced she would no longer prosecute the possession of small amounts of marijuana. In Chicago, the Soros-backed candidate stopped filing felony theft charges for property worth less than $1,000.

The changes have outraged police and prosecutor associations. The head of the union for Los Angeles County prosecutors recently issued a statewide call for donations to counter Soros’ money in San Diego.

Michele Hanisee, the group’s president, said Soros and the ACLU call on prosecutors to “pick and choose” which laws they enforce.

… Many of those activities don’t show up in campaign finance reports. Federal tax laws allow nonprofit advocacy groups to hide the source of their money and to disclose summaries of their spending years after the fact. It will be 2020 before Californians will be able to see the full scale of the involvement in June’s elections.

But tax forms, grant documents and interviews by The Times and the Marshall Project show that a coalition of wealthy donors, private foundations and advocacy groups by last year had sunk $11 million into grants focused on district attorney elections across the nation. At the top is the Open Philanthropy Project, a foundation started by Moskovitz and Tuna, that from 2014 to 2017 directed $6.6 million toward “prosecutorial reform” or similar terms.

The Open Philanthropy Project of Facebook friend-of-Mark Dustin Moskowitz and his wife is, apparently, not legally related to Soros’s famous Open Society Foundation, but they seem to be on the same page a lot of the time, as you would expect from their similarity of names.

Major grant recipients include the ACLU. The group’s projects include national polling last year measuring voter interest in the county races, and score cards helping promote the liberal platforms of candidates in Texas and California. Soros gave $50 million to the ACLU in 2014 for work on criminal justice issues, though it’s unclear how much, if any, was earmarked for the prosecutor campaigns.

… In July, a similar group, the Tides Foundation, hosted campaign directors for Soros and the ACLU and racial-justice activists from Color of Change to talk about steering nonprofit money toward the cause. …

The 2016 election in Illinois of Kim Foxx as Cook County state’s attorney illustrated the power of combining national money and local field teams.

… Soros joined the fight. So did Color of Change, Move On and Democracy for America — national organizations also engaged in the California races. …

Foxx won in a landslide, becoming Cook County’s first black state’s attorney.

Foxx, of course, was the DA who dismissed charges against hate hoaxer Jussie Smollett.

…But other candidates have fallen short. Targeted incumbents in Arizona and Colorado survived challenges despite Soros’ heavily funding their opponents.

“We knew that George Soros couldn’t find Jefferson County on a map,” said Peter Weir, who heads the district attorney’s office in the suburbs west of Denver. “Justice was not for sale in Jefferson County.”

This story was published in partnership with the Marshall Project, a nonprofit news organization covering the U.S. criminal justice system. Sign up for their newsletter, or follow the Marshall Project on Facebook or Twitter.

The Marshall Project receives funding from the George Soros-funded Open Society Foundations and other organizations that support efforts to reform the state’s criminal justice system. Under terms of its funding, the Marshall Project has sole editorial control of its news reporting.

So that was the liberal, respectable Los Angeles Times just 2 years ago.

But now you should never mention the name George Soros.

Or you might attract the Eye of Soros.

And you wouldn’t want that to happen, now would you?

Also:

Open Society’s History Fighting for Racial Justice in the United States
RACIAL JUSTICE MATTERS
JULY 13, 2020

Racial justice has always been central to the work and mission of the Open Society Foundations.

In the mid-1990s, after spending years working to reform U.S. drug policies that unfairly target Black Americans, George Soros and the Open Society Foundations expanded their racial justice ambitions in the United States by investing in the movement against systemic racism—from ending the drug war to reforming systems of education and criminal justice to securing the right to vote.

Now, in 2020, and in response to the unprecedented wave of activism and organizing for racial justice that’s spread across the world in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, Open Society is investing $220 million to build power in Black communities, promote bold new anti-racist policies in U.S. cities, and help first-time activists stay engaged. …

1998: Focusing on Black Americans in Baltimore
The Foundations launched the Open Society Institute–Baltimore—an innovative effort to address three intertwined problems affecting the city’s Black population: drug policy, high incarceration rates, and obstacles that impede Black youth in succeeding both in and outside of the classroom. To date, Open Society has invested over $113 million in Baltimore.

And that’s why, two decades later, Baltimore is an annual contender for the prestigious Murder Capital of America title.

… 2011: Fighting Stop and Frisk
Open Society helped develop Communities United for Police Reform, a New York City-based campaign to challenge—and substantially reduce—the police department’s racially discriminatory stop and frisk practices.

2014: Accelerating the End of Mass Incarceration
The Open Society Foundations gave a grant of $50 million to the ACLU to advance its efforts to reduce mass incarceration nationwide.

… 2020: Building Black Power
Open Society announced investments of $220 million to build power in Black communities, promote bold new anti-racist policies in U.S. cities, and help first-time activists stay engaged.

A woman sings while surrounded by fellow activists
LaTosha Brown, one of the cofounders of Black Voters Matter, sings during an event bringing together several grassroots organizations, in Greenville, Mississippi, on August 24, 2018. © Rogelio V. Solis/AP

Personally, my view of George Soros is, that while I disagree with him on much, he is a great man, a worthy foe. Sadly, he is now 90 and it is unlikely he has the strength of will and intellect anymore to change his mind and clean house among his underlings.

 
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  1. “Fox hos”

    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?

    Does he just write that about the Fox female interviewers are all all of them …? (Is he supposed to be someone we know?)

    This Cardi B stuff has got to stop!

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Muggles



    “Fox hos”
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?
     
    Honest mistake:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306283427847712768

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Muggles, @Neoconned, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ragno

    , @Roderick Spode
    @Muggles

    Typo or no, he’s not wrong.

    Replies: @Magic Dirt Resident

  2. Marie Harf is the Megan McCain of FOX News? I had no idea they had hired her to fill that role. If board member Paul Ryan ever does another interview someone should ask him about the ban on Soros bashing on FOX.

    • Replies: @Sergeant Prepper
    @Barnard


    Marie Harf is the Megan McCain of FOX News? I had no idea they had hired her to fill that role.
     
    She'll have to pick up rather a lot of weight to fill Megan McCain's role. McCain looks capable of dragging Captain Ahab to the bottom of the sea.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Barnard

    Marie Harf was the State Department spokesperson under Obama. I used to see her all the time back when I still watched TV news. She talked like a stereotypical Valley girl.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Barnard

    FOX News: The Blonde leading the Blonde.

    They certainly take the term "Fox" to heart

    It was remarkable how quickly the Crimestop came down. Maybe they remember that it was talking about Soros that got Glen Beck defenestrated at FOX.

  3. A month or two ago Tucker said, ‘I know I’m not supposed to mention his name but George Soros….’. Is that a trope or a canard?

  4. Soros has ruined entire states and foreign nations. He should be tried for crimes against humanity

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @TWS

    Skip the trial, just go for the drone strikes: him, pour encourager les autres; the rest of his organization for obvious reasons.

    Blood thirsty? When Obama ordered just such a drone strike on one Islamic radical US citizen in Yemen for his advocacy of jihad, it was A-OK, supposedly. But really, who has in actuality done more damage to the Republic, one lone nut, or this billionaire radical backed up by a well-financed, terrorist-adjacent network?

    Won't happen, but it should.

    , @ben tillman
    @TWS

    What gets me is that he's continually referred to as a philanthropist. Does anyone actually know what that word means?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Anonymous
    @TWS

    George Soros' late brother Paul also helped out by building up local candidates, such as the county attorney in California:

    https://www.pdsoros.org/meet-the-fellows/james-williams

    A county attorney has significant powers enabling him to shape local policies, and can even bring criminal prosecutions for certain crimes (like a DA), in addition to many other special powers coupled with access to federal and state intelligence agencies.

    Apparently, regular promotion practices don't apply if you are a Soros-funded hotshot with a direct wire to Mordor.

  5. Good. Now we know what bothers them.

    I have a feeling that Harris Faulkner had the producer shouting in her inductive ear piece to get off the subject quickly. Marie Harf was already trained and housebroken.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @anon
    @Prof. Woland

    Good. Now we know what bothers them

    Another thing that bothers them is "pedophile". Total mystery why.

    , @ben tillman
    @Prof. Woland

    But why does it bother them?

    , @Richard B
    @Prof. Woland


    Marie Harf was already trained and housebroken.
     
    LOL!

    I already used the AGREE option.

    Humor aside. It's actually true. Which is why we need the humor.
  6. My Jew-dar is really off. I didn’t know someone like actor Paul Rudd was Jewish, and wondered why the West Wing tv show talked about antiSemitism all the time, especially when the president Martin Sheen’s staff wasn’t particularly “Jewy”. So I didn’t realize Soros is Jewish either. I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger but now that too is apparently an anti-Semitic comment to make. The pretzel logic astounds, now attacking someone who was friendly with the Nazis is somehow attacking Jews!

    I hate the unreason in this world. Soros is a monster and if there is a hell I suspect the old man will be there soon.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger
     
    No he didn't. Neither the act itself or "admitting" it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can't recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Coemgen, @Hibernian, @Ozymandias, @Alden, @John Milton’s Ghost

  7. If Gingrich is not careful, he’ll soon be ex-humed.

    • LOL: Pheasant
  8. Amazing stuff. It is now forbidden on the center-right to even name the largest funder of progressive causes … because he’s Jewish. I’m not holding my breath for MSNBC to forbid its guests from uttering the name “Sheldon Adelson.”

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Admiral Assbar

    I think the logic is that since every negative attribute Julius Streicher ever attributed to Jews is encapsulated in the person of George Soros, talking about him makes you a Nazi.

  9. It wasn’t Marie Harf who made the initial objection to the mentioning, of the unmentionable.

    That was Harris Faulkner, after a pause between Newts stating the obvious about Soros.

    She was fed the line through her earpiece, Faulkner is no Marie Harf. She just follows orders.

    Be interesting to see if Tucker might test the Soros rule.

    Somethings tells me his days are numbered regardless. And he might even welcome it.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Redman
    @bartolo1

    Tucker is like the modern day Howard Beale to the Fox folks. He’s telling “terrible” truths to the masses, the ratings are amazing, but the advertisers are running scared. Everyone these days is looking over his shoulder in fear of being cancelled.

    “If Cosby, Weinstein and Lauer can be cancelled what chance do I have”? I’ve got to put my head between my knees and maybe into the sand. It’s a witch hunt for racists, antisemites and homophobes.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Anonymous
    @bartolo1

    The initial demurral seemingly came from off-camera ex-CNBC hostess Melissa Francis, of "Little House on the Prairie" fame, not Faulkner (the one who struggled with analogical maritime structural terminology at the end).

    Whether someone else said it into Francis's ear, would be interesting to know, but anyway, it was she who launched this bungled daytime operation of crimestop

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @bartolo1

    Wasn't it talking too much about Soros that got Glenn Beck axed at Fox News?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @bartolo1

  10. @Barnard
    Marie Harf is the Megan McCain of FOX News? I had no idea they had hired her to fill that role. If board member Paul Ryan ever does another interview someone should ask him about the ban on Soros bashing on FOX.

    Replies: @Sergeant Prepper, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon

    Marie Harf is the Megan McCain of FOX News? I had no idea they had hired her to fill that role.

    She’ll have to pick up rather a lot of weight to fill Megan McCain’s role. McCain looks capable of dragging Captain Ahab to the bottom of the sea.

  11. One of those posts that make a big (huge) difference.

    So – these are 1) The Los Angeles Times, 2) Newt Gingrich (Newt Gingrich!) and – not to forget – 3) iSteve lined up perfectly well in a context that is – take all in all – flabbergastingly destructive. This is a case that shows how left wing liberlism is going off the rail.

    (To quote Dr. Freud here: Important truths, in order to sink in, have to be repeated – over and over again (this is not – verboten – – ).

  12. • Replies: @guest
    @Dave Pinsen

    Or introduce people to the evils of men like Soros. It works either way.

    The trick is to realize we shouldn’t worry about being anti- lots of things. Are you anti-Mormon, for instance? I don’t know. Is Mitt Romney still senator? Then yes.

    , @Ian Smith
    @Dave Pinsen

    Support Soros and Antifa or support wars for the Zionist entity. Finklethink in action!

    , @Redman
    @Dave Pinsen

    Can you please translate? What does this mean?

    Replies: @AndrewR

  13. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:

    The most most protest on saying Soros’ name came from Melissa Francis, a child actress (Cassandra Cooper Ingalls on Little House on the Prairie) turned TV financial news host with a Harvard econ degree. I always thought she (((was ))) but I can’t find anything to substantiate that.

    Btw, in this clip from 2017 all three of those Fox News women are also present and Francis starts crying over the issue of race:

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Anonymous

    Roger Ailes was a good man but unfortunately responsible for the legs-a-mania displays of these four nitwits!

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Anonymous

    Thanks. This looks like an interesting example for the thesis: Emos alone just don't do.

    (In other words: Authenticity is a thing that compromises not least women (to be honest: I think with regard to public discourse, it compromises women more than men because getting very emotional rather easily can prevent you from understanding things (with regard to a discourse (= a public attempt to make reasonable choices(decisions)) and it even prevents you from making clear points).

    , @S
    @Anonymous


    Btw, in this clip from 2017 all three of those Fox News women are also present and Francis starts crying over the issue of race:
     
    As with so many things it's revealing to follow the money trail; it's the same with race. [If Francis were to grasp that she'd likely not be crying over 'the issue of race'.]

    Below is an excerpt and link to a Spring 1874 editorial of the Pall Mall Gazette of London, which specifically identifies 'race' as the primary impediment to the scheme of importing by diktat tens of millions of Chinese wage slaves (ie so called 'cheap labor') into the United States, Australia, and Canada, a situation the editorial decries and laments.

    As for the money aspect, we do have some idea of just how much more profitable wage slavery ('cheap labor') is over chattel slavery, chattel slavery and its trade being the business the direct political and spiritual forebears of today's self declared 'progressives' were into before discovering the wonders of wage slavery.

    In his December, 1863, letter from London, the financial representative of the Lincoln administration there, Robert Walker, effectively calculated that wage slavery (cheap labor) was four times more productive, efficient, and profitable, than chattel slavery , when he compared wage slave dependent Massachusetts with chattel slave dependent South Carolina. [See the bottom link below and the upper left column to pg 258 of the March 4, 1864 edition of the Continental Monthly.]

    If the powers that be were prepared to see 600,000 die to get at these profits in the US Civil War via forcing the South to adopt the North's so called 'cheap labor'/'mass immigration' system, ie 'wage slavery', is there any reason to think they'd balk at the genocide of entire races, and hence the development of the modern 'anti-race' campaign known euphamistically as 'anti-racism'?

    Pall Mall Gazette (Spring, 1874) – ‘Chinamen Out of China’

    “A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.”
     
    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.55223460&view=1up&seq=136&skin=mobile

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081669800&view=1up&seq=266
  14. OT: DePaul has posted a REDLINGING map of Chicago: https://depaul-edu.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=04efec7203ac4243b09c9d2bcddb02e5

    1) What’s stands out is the different courses each redlined area has taken, Lincoln Park and Wicker park have become to of the most expensive area areas in Chicago, Pilsen’s gone from being to crappy Czech immigrant neighborhood to a crappy Mexican immigrant neighborhood now to somewhat better Mexican area in the early stages of gentrification, Bridgeport, somehow got redlined despite being white and clout heavy has steadily improved, Bronzevile became one of worst parts of the black ghetto but has since improved since the housing projects were torn down.

    2) Very few area received the highest “A” rating, for example none of upper middle class Park Ridge was rated “A.

    3) A number of areas, Chatham, Auburn Gresham, and South Shore that received the second highest “B” rating are no part of the black ghetto.

    4) West Englewood and Jefferson park both received “C” ratings today West Englewood is park of the black ghetto while Jefferson Park is anice Middle class mixed White/Hispanic area.

    5) For some reason Mt Greenwood and Ashburn were both Redlined both areas have always been nice middle class area, today Ashburn is black white Mt. Greenwood is white. These may have been some of the areas where streets were laid down in the late 1920s but nothing was built until after the war.

    I see zero evidence that Redline has any effect on anything today. How did a good government program to help banks make solid loans turn into a crime against humanity? They got some things wrong gentrification didn’t start until the 1950s before that people just thought that neighborhoods would only decline, this led to much unnecessary and destructive urban renewal projects in areas that would have improved on their own anyway(compare Boston North and West ends.)

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @t


    ...Bridgeport, somehow got redlined despite being white and clout heavy has steadily improved...
     
    There's historically been a lot of substandard housing in Bridgeport, and there's still a fair amount. Gentrification tends to be of the teardown and replacement type with a few exceptions. A lot of very old housing. A lot of it is wood frame. A lot of brick buildings there are nothing to write home about.

    For some reason Mt Greenwood and Ashburn were both Redlined both areas have always been nice middle class area, today Ashburn is black white Mt. Greenwood is white.
     
    Mt. Greenwood began as a semi-rural lower middle class area.

    ...gentrification didn’t start until the 1950s...
     
    Not until the '60s in Chicago.

    Replies: @fnn

  15. Soros is an evil old bastard.

    That said, his destabilization efforts would not have been nearly as successful, if the United States was a healthy republic.

    Only, a nation ruled by whores, would allow men like Soros the unfettered ability to meddle, interfere and weaponize large segments of the population against the common good, and get rich while they are doing it.

    Soros is 89 years old and may well outlive the United States. But he is a only a symptom, not the disease.

    • Agree: Alden, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Sandy Berger's Socks

    I mashed [Agree], but I'm not sure I agree with the last sentence exactly. I'd put it this way. If Americans had been taking politics as seriously as college football for the last 50 years, I believe we'd not have to worry about any evil rich bastard like this "buying" an election. After all, people still vote, right?

    One buys an election when the people are stupid enough to go by the Lyin' Press ads and the billboards with the handsome guy with the nice hair. Fuck these voters, as they've brought us all down with them.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

  16. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1306343524011577345?s=21

    Replies: @guest, @Ian Smith, @Redman

    Or introduce people to the evils of men like Soros. It works either way.

    The trick is to realize we shouldn’t worry about being anti- lots of things. Are you anti-Mormon, for instance? I don’t know. Is Mitt Romney still senator? Then yes.

  17. “New York businessman George Soros”

    The LA Times probably calls Arnold Schwarzenegger a “native of Brentwood.”

    • LOL: Trinity
  18. For a people supposedly so consumed with the threat posed by anti-semitic conspiracy theories, it’s remarkable how often the predictable, uncompromising counterattack from every angle to any perceived critique of any member of the tribe sure looks like a coordinated effort to protect malefactors.

  19. moshe says:

    George Soros happily collaborated with Nazis and refered to it as the best time in his life.

    As far as I can tell he was a monster from birth.

    Netanyahu paid for ads in Hungary saying that opposition to Soros is PHILO-semitism.

    The fact that he was a happy collaborator with the Nazis should be repeated until it becomes common knowledge.

    P.S. Besides his collaboration with nazis I know close to nothing about him or his policies.

    • Replies: @anon
    @moshe

    P.S. Besides his collaboration with nazis I know close to nothing about him or his policies.

    Well now, there's a surprise, moshe.

  20. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1306343524011577345?s=21

    Replies: @guest, @Ian Smith, @Redman

    Support Soros and Antifa or support wars for the Zionist entity. Finklethink in action!

    • Agree: Exile
    • LOL: fnn
  21. @Muggles

    "Fox hos"
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a "t" or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?

    Does he just write that about the Fox female interviewers are all all of them ...? (Is he supposed to be someone we know?)

    This Cardi B stuff has got to stop!

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Roderick Spode

    “Fox hos”

    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?

    Honest mistake:

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @MEH 0910

    Maybe a Freudian slip, as these women will certainly do anything for money it appears.

    , @Muggles
    @MEH 0910

    "Honest mistake" or Freudian slip?

    , @Neoconned
    @MEH 0910

    Even Gingrich can't mention him damn.

    Anyway so Steve your thesis is that Soros is basically a Biden like meat puppet on autopilot being run by his lieutenants?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @MEH 0910

    not so obvious to me.

    , @Ragno
    @MEH 0910

    Somebody should really note that Baragona wasn't doing an antiSoros gotcha on Fox News. He was doing a We Run You victory dance.

    From his article at The Daily Beast:


    Things got extremely awkward on Fox News panel show Outnumbered on Wednesday after former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich tied billionaire financier George Soros—often the focus of anti-Semitic tropes—to violence in cities, prompting the show’s co-hosts to directly confront him on why he was invoking the liberal philanthropist.

    Fox has had issues over the years with a number of its guests and hosts peddling anti-Semitic tropes about the billionaire investor. The network banned Judicial Watch’s Chris Farrell in late 2018 after he baselessly claimed on Lou Dobbs’ program that migrant caravans were funded by the “Soros-occupied State Department.” (Dobbs himself has a lengthy history of trafficking in Soros-related conspiracies.) Fox News also apologized after Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) falsely accused Soros of collaborating with the Nazis during World War II.

    The network came under fire last year when frequent Fox guest and Trump ally Joe diGenova accused Soros of controlling “very large parts” of the State Department during an appearance on Dobbs’ show, echoing Farrell’s remarks. Several Jewish organizations demanded the network ban diGenova and issue a public apology.
     

    The password is......(((anti-Semitic tropes))).

    You only think this is your country, white man; it's theirs. Learn that, so we don't have to publicly break you.

    (long uncomfortable pause)

    O-kay! Moving on.........Jemima?

  22. Why won’t Fox News or any other American news outlet play the body cam footage released by the Daily Mail about a month ago that clearly shows the cops were trying to help George Floyd, not arrest him?

    This is amazing to me. One of the seminal events of 2020. The Summer of Floyd. And yet the media goes dark on that very exculpatory piece of evidence. Even the “right wing” Fox won’t touch it.

    Fox is as much in the tank for the globalists as all the rest. They allow Tucker (with the highest ratings in America) and Ingram on air. But their “news” is as lame as the rest.

  23. @John Milton’s Ghost
    My Jew-dar is really off. I didn’t know someone like actor Paul Rudd was Jewish, and wondered why the West Wing tv show talked about antiSemitism all the time, especially when the president Martin Sheen’s staff wasn’t particularly “Jewy”. So I didn’t realize Soros is Jewish either. I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger but now that too is apparently an anti-Semitic comment to make. The pretzel logic astounds, now attacking someone who was friendly with the Nazis is somehow attacking Jews!

    I hate the unreason in this world. Soros is a monster and if there is a hell I suspect the old man will be there soon.

    Replies: @Lurker

    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger

    No he didn’t. Neither the act itself or “admitting” it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can’t recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @Lurker

    I once came across a single source article so I cannot vouch but one of the very few things Obama warned Trump about was to be careful about any dirt Putin would have on Soros. When the Red Army swept through Eastern Europe, the NKVD and SMERSH documented extensively any Nazi collaborators and they hunted them down relentlessly. Make no bones about it, there is an extensive file on Georgi Schwartz somewhere in Moscow that has never surfaced. Whatever the little prick did, including him leading people to wealthy Jews he was familiar with, would be in the hands of the FSB and it surly includes the details of what happened to his victims.

    , @Coemgen
    @Lurker

    It’s 2020. No need to paraphrase:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iGB0gTA4Ec

    , @Hibernian
    @Lurker

    Talk about rationalization.

    , @Ozymandias
    @Lurker


    All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.
     
    You completely misunderstand. In the Weimar Republic, the bolsheviks were in the streets intimidating people. The brownshirts formed as a reaction to that because the government had failed to respond. In Weimerica, the bolsheviks are in the streets, but you haven't seen the brownshirts yet. The whole point here is to avoid their appearance; when mobs are fighting for control of the streets, no matter who wins, everyone loses.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Alden
    @Lurker

    Hungary was an ally of Germany in WW2. German troops didn’t occupy Hungary till 1943.
    Soros was 9 when the war began and 14 when it ended, not much help to anyone for anything.

    And who cares what he did between 9 and 14 in another country? What matters is what he’s been doing to destroy America for the last 30 years.

    He and his sons and employees should be in some super max prison for life.

    Replies: @gcochran, @Hibernian

    , @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Lurker

    Wait, if these right wing operatives want to “distract from his Jewish identity,” then why do all his left wing enablers keep calling out antiSemitism? You can’t have it both ways.

    Yes he was 14. He didn’t personally benefit. He kept his head down. All understandable.

    The main point still stands. There’s nothing anti Semitic about criticizing this man. There’s nothing Jewish about this man either—what he attempts to do does not even fit the most liberal Reform Jewish vision of justice.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lurker

  24. @MEH 0910
    @Muggles



    “Fox hos”
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?
     
    Honest mistake:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306283427847712768

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Muggles, @Neoconned, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ragno

    Maybe a Freudian slip, as these women will certainly do anything for money it appears.

  25. @bartolo1
    It wasn't Marie Harf who made the initial objection to the mentioning, of the unmentionable.

    That was Harris Faulkner, after a pause between Newts stating the obvious about Soros.

    She was fed the line through her earpiece, Faulkner is no Marie Harf. She just follows orders.

    Be interesting to see if Tucker might test the Soros rule.

    Somethings tells me his days are numbered regardless. And he might even welcome it.

    Replies: @Redman, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin

    Tucker is like the modern day Howard Beale to the Fox folks. He’s telling “terrible” truths to the masses, the ratings are amazing, but the advertisers are running scared. Everyone these days is looking over his shoulder in fear of being cancelled.

    “If Cosby, Weinstein and Lauer can be cancelled what chance do I have”? I’ve got to put my head between my knees and maybe into the sand. It’s a witch hunt for racists, antisemites and homophobes.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Redman

    Tucker is like the modern day Howard Beale to the Fox folks. He’s telling “terrible” truths to the masses

    How funny was it, though, that in that movie, the truth he was trying to tell everyone was that the Arabs are trying to control the media?

    "It's the Arabs! The Arabs are trying to take over the media!", said the character in the Jewish man's script.

    I've always kind of wondered why Chayefsky put that angle in there. Was it some weird fantasy Chayefsky actually had? Or was he actually making a subtle dig at his own people, and what would happen to people who pointed out the uncomfortable facts?

    It's too obvious of a thing to just be in the script for no reason.

  26. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1306343524011577345?s=21

    Replies: @guest, @Ian Smith, @Redman

    Can you please translate? What does this mean?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Redman

    His point is that it probably doesn't serve the Jews well to try to forbid criticism of ANY Jew, as much of our elite class has tried to do in recent years. Having said that, anyone - and especially any Jew - should be heavily praised for opposing Israel.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  27. Can we say that George Soros’ real name is George Schwartz? Can we say that Chris Wallace’s real name is Chris Wallik. Hey, remember when Eli Wallach, a Jew, played a Mexican bandito named Tuco in that classic spaghetti western, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Okay, we had the Italian, Al Pacino, playing a couple of Hispanics, Pacino has even played a Jew. Well, comedian Richard Lewis and Pacino do look alike. Andrew “Dice” Clay and Henry Winkler trying to play a couple of Eye-talians or at least Andrew Dice Clay tried to act as if he were Italian instead of Jewish. Clay did later on resemble a fat Fonzi for what it is worth. What is up with the Scottish names with Jews like Jon Stewart aka Jon Leibowitz and Chris Wallace aka Chris Wallik? With Jews changing their names, Soros sounds Greek to me, and even Jews pretending to be B-L-A-C-K, what is up with this? With all the Jewish Privilege around, you would think Jews wouldn’t be bashful about being kosher.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Trinity

    Polish and Italian people change names too. My paternal grandfather exchanged a Polish surname for the surname I carry. There's no connection between the two names except that my Grandfather bore both of them at different stages of his life. Irish surnames were generally changed at least to some extent in Ireland under British rule.

    Replies: @Richard S

  28. Can’t have the hoi polloi figuring out we live in a Jewish oligarchy.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  29. @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger
     
    No he didn't. Neither the act itself or "admitting" it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can't recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Coemgen, @Hibernian, @Ozymandias, @Alden, @John Milton’s Ghost

    I once came across a single source article so I cannot vouch but one of the very few things Obama warned Trump about was to be careful about any dirt Putin would have on Soros. When the Red Army swept through Eastern Europe, the NKVD and SMERSH documented extensively any Nazi collaborators and they hunted them down relentlessly. Make no bones about it, there is an extensive file on Georgi Schwartz somewhere in Moscow that has never surfaced. Whatever the little prick did, including him leading people to wealthy Jews he was familiar with, would be in the hands of the FSB and it surly includes the details of what happened to his victims.

  30. @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger
     
    No he didn't. Neither the act itself or "admitting" it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can't recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Coemgen, @Hibernian, @Ozymandias, @Alden, @John Milton’s Ghost

    It’s 2020. No need to paraphrase:

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  31. Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency chief sexually harassed staffers for 7 years, IG finds

    The U.S. MSM are playing this as a ‘military sexual harassment’ story, which it is, kind of, but I notice that the U.S. outlets fail to show the guy’s pic. Daily Mail does though. Does 7 years mean he was an Obama appointee?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/16/top-pentagon-official-sexually-harassed-women-seven-years-ig-says/5819604002/

    https://mol.im/a/8741115 (Daily Mail)

    • Replies: @res
    @Charon

    The official report says he started serving in that position in May 2011 (page 4).
    https://www.dodig.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Reading-Room/Article/2349469/report-of-investigation-mr-john-h-james-jr-senior-executive-service-missile-def/

    I was unable to find anything on how he was appointed or by whom. My guess would be he was not appointed directly by the president:
    https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/
    but it seems likely there would have been a strong diversity push in 2011.

    I'm also not sure calling him the "chief" is accurate. The article text describes him as "civilian head." If you look at the MDA leadership page they only mention the Directors (military).
    https://www.mda.mil/about/leadership.html

    Here is how the report linked above describes things.


    The MDA is led by a director, normally a three-star general or flag officer, who is assisted by an executive director.
    ...
    As Executive Director, Mr. James was the senior civilian in the MDA and reported directly to the Director. He supervised all aspects of MDA' s operations.
     
    Here is an org chart from early in his tenure.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20111201185310/http://www.mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/orgcht.pdf

    It shows the top box enclosing three positions: Director, Deputy Director, and Executive Director. D and DD are both military.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  32. @MEH 0910
    @Muggles



    “Fox hos”
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?
     
    Honest mistake:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306283427847712768

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Muggles, @Neoconned, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ragno

    “Honest mistake” or Freudian slip?

  33. Absolute state of 2020. Soro’s before Fox ho’s

  34. Related.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    It's kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off. Bad air quality keeping people off the streets? Barr's proactivity? Antifa finally realizing their bad optics?

    With people's short memories, if the rioting doesn't continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won't give Trump an election bump he needs...

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @ben tillman

    , @ben tillman
    @Dave Pinsen

    I hope he said the same thing to Durham about the bureaucrats and media members who conspired to nullify the 2016 election.

  35. @Prof. Woland
    Good. Now we know what bothers them.

    I have a feeling that Harris Faulkner had the producer shouting in her inductive ear piece to get off the subject quickly. Marie Harf was already trained and housebroken.

    Replies: @anon, @ben tillman, @Richard B

    Good. Now we know what bothers them

    Another thing that bothers them is “pedophile”. Total mystery why.

  36. @t
    OT: DePaul has posted a REDLINGING map of Chicago: https://depaul-edu.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapJournal/index.html?appid=04efec7203ac4243b09c9d2bcddb02e5

    1) What's stands out is the different courses each redlined area has taken, Lincoln Park and Wicker park have become to of the most expensive area areas in Chicago, Pilsen's gone from being to crappy Czech immigrant neighborhood to a crappy Mexican immigrant neighborhood now to somewhat better Mexican area in the early stages of gentrification, Bridgeport, somehow got redlined despite being white and clout heavy has steadily improved, Bronzevile became one of worst parts of the black ghetto but has since improved since the housing projects were torn down.

    2) Very few area received the highest "A" rating, for example none of upper middle class Park Ridge was rated "A.

    3) A number of areas, Chatham, Auburn Gresham, and South Shore that received the second highest "B" rating are no part of the black ghetto.

    4) West Englewood and Jefferson park both received "C" ratings today West Englewood is park of the black ghetto while Jefferson Park is anice Middle class mixed White/Hispanic area.

    5) For some reason Mt Greenwood and Ashburn were both Redlined both areas have always been nice middle class area, today Ashburn is black white Mt. Greenwood is white. These may have been some of the areas where streets were laid down in the late 1920s but nothing was built until after the war.

    I see zero evidence that Redline has any effect on anything today. How did a good government program to help banks make solid loans turn into a crime against humanity? They got some things wrong gentrification didn't start until the 1950s before that people just thought that neighborhoods would only decline, this led to much unnecessary and destructive urban renewal projects in areas that would have improved on their own anyway(compare Boston North and West ends.)

    Replies: @Hibernian

    …Bridgeport, somehow got redlined despite being white and clout heavy has steadily improved…

    There’s historically been a lot of substandard housing in Bridgeport, and there’s still a fair amount. Gentrification tends to be of the teardown and replacement type with a few exceptions. A lot of very old housing. A lot of it is wood frame. A lot of brick buildings there are nothing to write home about.

    For some reason Mt Greenwood and Ashburn were both Redlined both areas have always been nice middle class area, today Ashburn is black white Mt. Greenwood is white.

    Mt. Greenwood began as a semi-rural lower middle class area.

    …gentrification didn’t start until the 1950s…

    Not until the ’60s in Chicago.

    • Replies: @fnn
    @Hibernian


    …gentrification didn’t start until the 1950s…

    Not until the ’60s in Chicago.
     
    My hunch is that the Old Town sub-neighborhood of Lincoln Park was the first gentrification site in Chicago. Sometime in the mid to late 1960s.
  37. @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger
     
    No he didn't. Neither the act itself or "admitting" it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can't recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Coemgen, @Hibernian, @Ozymandias, @Alden, @John Milton’s Ghost

    Talk about rationalization.

  38. • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @JohnnyWalker123

    That's for when Trump is promoted from POTUS to WOTAN.

    , @Aeronerauk
    @JohnnyWalker123

    One problem: he can't.

  39. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:
    @bartolo1
    It wasn't Marie Harf who made the initial objection to the mentioning, of the unmentionable.

    That was Harris Faulkner, after a pause between Newts stating the obvious about Soros.

    She was fed the line through her earpiece, Faulkner is no Marie Harf. She just follows orders.

    Be interesting to see if Tucker might test the Soros rule.

    Somethings tells me his days are numbered regardless. And he might even welcome it.

    Replies: @Redman, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin

    The initial demurral seemingly came from off-camera ex-CNBC hostess Melissa Francis, of “Little House on the Prairie” fame, not Faulkner (the one who struggled with analogical maritime structural terminology at the end).

    Whether someone else said it into Francis’s ear, would be interesting to know, but anyway, it was she who launched this bungled daytime operation of crimestop

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Melissa Francis, of “Little House on the Prairie” fame
     
    Not exactly in the tradition of Laura Ingalls Wilder, Rose Wilder Lane, and Roger Lea MacBride, is she?
  40. @Trinity
    Can we say that George Soros' real name is George Schwartz? Can we say that Chris Wallace's real name is Chris Wallik. Hey, remember when Eli Wallach, a Jew, played a Mexican bandito named Tuco in that classic spaghetti western, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Okay, we had the Italian, Al Pacino, playing a couple of Hispanics, Pacino has even played a Jew. Well, comedian Richard Lewis and Pacino do look alike. Andrew "Dice" Clay and Henry Winkler trying to play a couple of Eye-talians or at least Andrew Dice Clay tried to act as if he were Italian instead of Jewish. Clay did later on resemble a fat Fonzi for what it is worth. What is up with the Scottish names with Jews like Jon Stewart aka Jon Leibowitz and Chris Wallace aka Chris Wallik? With Jews changing their names, Soros sounds Greek to me, and even Jews pretending to be B-L-A-C-K, what is up with this? With all the Jewish Privilege around, you would think Jews wouldn't be bashful about being kosher.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Polish and Italian people change names too. My paternal grandfather exchanged a Polish surname for the surname I carry. There’s no connection between the two names except that my Grandfather bore both of them at different stages of his life. Irish surnames were generally changed at least to some extent in Ireland under British rule.

    • Replies: @Richard S
    @Hibernian

    The anglicisation of Irish names has always been interesting to me; how Irish phonology and soundforms are reflected in a quite different language.

    Ó Muimhneacháin in 17th century Ireland becomes Minihane in 18th century English and Moynihan in 19th century America. Mac Ainmhire became Convery or Hanbury, depending on the aural sensitivity of some literate clerk 150 years ago.

    Diphthong sounds in Ireland don’t just change over time, they literally vary from to tayne (Belfast) to tao-n (Dublin).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  41. A great foe, but not a great man.

  42. @Hibernian
    @t


    ...Bridgeport, somehow got redlined despite being white and clout heavy has steadily improved...
     
    There's historically been a lot of substandard housing in Bridgeport, and there's still a fair amount. Gentrification tends to be of the teardown and replacement type with a few exceptions. A lot of very old housing. A lot of it is wood frame. A lot of brick buildings there are nothing to write home about.

    For some reason Mt Greenwood and Ashburn were both Redlined both areas have always been nice middle class area, today Ashburn is black white Mt. Greenwood is white.
     
    Mt. Greenwood began as a semi-rural lower middle class area.

    ...gentrification didn’t start until the 1950s...
     
    Not until the '60s in Chicago.

    Replies: @fnn

    …gentrification didn’t start until the 1950s…

    Not until the ’60s in Chicago.

    My hunch is that the Old Town sub-neighborhood of Lincoln Park was the first gentrification site in Chicago. Sometime in the mid to late 1960s.

  43. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/baqlavas/status/1305665815967084545

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Aeronerauk

    That’s for when Trump is promoted from POTUS to WOTAN.

  44. @TWS
    Soros has ruined entire states and foreign nations. He should be tried for crimes against humanity

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @ben tillman, @Anonymous

    Skip the trial, just go for the drone strikes: him, pour encourager les autres; the rest of his organization for obvious reasons.

    Blood thirsty? When Obama ordered just such a drone strike on one Islamic radical US citizen in Yemen for his advocacy of jihad, it was A-OK, supposedly. But really, who has in actuality done more damage to the Republic, one lone nut, or this billionaire radical backed up by a well-financed, terrorist-adjacent network?

    Won’t happen, but it should.

  45. @Dave Pinsen
    Related.

    https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1306282743286898693?s=21

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @ben tillman

    It’s kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off. Bad air quality keeping people off the streets? Barr’s proactivity? Antifa finally realizing their bad optics?

    With people’s short memories, if the rioting doesn’t continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won’t give Trump an election bump he needs…

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Chrisnonymous


    It’s kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off.
     
    Antifa/BLM are traveling to DC for the, "50 Day White House Siege, " that begins tomorrow.
    , @anon
    @Chrisnonymous

    With people’s short memories, if the rioting doesn’t continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won’t give Trump an election bump he needs…

    Well, maybe. On the other hand, if athletes keep kneeling and putting the names of black criminals on their helmets, that will help remind people. And I doubt the rest of the media is just going to drop all the white-hatred anytime soon.

    Hopefully, people will keep associating all of that with the riots. They should, after all, since the BLM/Antifa riots are the justification for why normal whites have to be published.

    And if they don't make that association on their own, I feel like it's our duty to keep reminding them, in whatever way we can.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Chrisnonymous

    Rioters realizing that they might get Rittenhoused might have something to do with it.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @ben tillman
    @Chrisnonymous

    Kyle Rittenhouse and Judge Roth in Lancaster may have caught their attention.

  46. @Barnard
    Marie Harf is the Megan McCain of FOX News? I had no idea they had hired her to fill that role. If board member Paul Ryan ever does another interview someone should ask him about the ban on Soros bashing on FOX.

    Replies: @Sergeant Prepper, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon

    Marie Harf was the State Department spokesperson under Obama. I used to see her all the time back when I still watched TV news. She talked like a stereotypical Valley girl.

  47. @Admiral Assbar
    Amazing stuff. It is now forbidden on the center-right to even name the largest funder of progressive causes ... because he's Jewish. I'm not holding my breath for MSNBC to forbid its guests from uttering the name "Sheldon Adelson."

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I think the logic is that since every negative attribute Julius Streicher ever attributed to Jews is encapsulated in the person of George Soros, talking about him makes you a Nazi.

  48. @bartolo1
    It wasn't Marie Harf who made the initial objection to the mentioning, of the unmentionable.

    That was Harris Faulkner, after a pause between Newts stating the obvious about Soros.

    She was fed the line through her earpiece, Faulkner is no Marie Harf. She just follows orders.

    Be interesting to see if Tucker might test the Soros rule.

    Somethings tells me his days are numbered regardless. And he might even welcome it.

    Replies: @Redman, @Anonymous, @Harry Baldwin

    Wasn’t it talking too much about Soros that got Glenn Beck axed at Fox News?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Harry Baldwin

    No, but the lyingpress was able to use Beck's theatrical flame-outs to run damage control: you're asking questions about Soros? What are you, a nut like Beck?

    , @bartolo1
    @Harry Baldwin

    Prior to getting into hot water with truthing about Soros, there was this:

    July 28, 2009: Beck calls Obama a “racist” with a “deep seated hatred for white people.” Discussing Obama's response to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Beck asserts that Obama has “a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.” After being reminded that Obama has numerous white staffers, Beck contradicted himself, stating, “I'm not saying that he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem,” before going on to state, “this guy is, I believe, a racist.” [Fox News' Fox & Friends, 7/28/09]

    Beck suffered multiple body blows after that statement, the country was still warm and fuzzy about the racist in chief.

    He left Fox in Apr 2011. Looking back on some of the things Beck said, I am reminded of why I am fond of the guy.

    And yes..........he went at Soros

    Beck biographer Alexander Zaitchik, who says that Beck was caught in a vicious circle: “To keep viewers coming back, he had to keep creating new, more intricate theories. Last November, in a two-part special that indirectly invoked anti-Semitism, he accused liberal Jewish financier George Soros of orchestrating the fall of foreign governments for financial gain. During the Egyptian Revolution, Beck sided with Hosni Mubarak, alleging that his fall was ‘controlled by the socialist communists and the Muslim Brotherhood.’ ”

    In another recent example, Beck warned viewers not to use Google, saying it’s “deep in bed with the government.”

    Fox should bring back Beck and boot Hannity.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  49. Soros makes his money essentially betting that a given country will collapse, then guaranteeing his bet with next-generation warfare (camouflaged, to lawyers and journalists but no one else, as “activism”). It’s something he has done consistently for decades. Now he’s doing it here. If American legal institutions were ever interested in credibility or legitimacy, here is a massive target with potential results. Or they can continue to release violent felons and keep up the hunt for Phantom Nazis.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  50. @Harry Baldwin
    @bartolo1

    Wasn't it talking too much about Soros that got Glenn Beck axed at Fox News?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @bartolo1

    No, but the lyingpress was able to use Beck’s theatrical flame-outs to run damage control: you’re asking questions about Soros? What are you, a nut like Beck?

  51. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    The assassin is always (more) guilty regardless of who pays.

    The mostly peaceful protests have an air of the broken window fallacy to them. Libertarians used to wail about this but they don’t seem to so much anymore. They also always hated conservatives until Trump the fake. Now that I think of it, they used to always stand with the protesters and thought the left was so great on civil liberties that everyone should be one. Maybe now everyone will be a republican which will be the new left.

  52. How much does it cost and who or what do you need to know, for this service? We know it’s possible to silence criticism of “philanthropists”, now we need to know the price.

  53. @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger
     
    No he didn't. Neither the act itself or "admitting" it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can't recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Coemgen, @Hibernian, @Ozymandias, @Alden, @John Milton’s Ghost

    All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    You completely misunderstand. In the Weimar Republic, the bolsheviks were in the streets intimidating people. The brownshirts formed as a reaction to that because the government had failed to respond. In Weimerica, the bolsheviks are in the streets, but you haven’t seen the brownshirts yet. The whole point here is to avoid their appearance; when mobs are fighting for control of the streets, no matter who wins, everyone loses.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Ozymandias

    No, he understands perfectly. Fascists were the reaction to and opponents of the bolshevists. Today's bolshevists cannot be fascists.

  54. anon[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redman
    @bartolo1

    Tucker is like the modern day Howard Beale to the Fox folks. He’s telling “terrible” truths to the masses, the ratings are amazing, but the advertisers are running scared. Everyone these days is looking over his shoulder in fear of being cancelled.

    “If Cosby, Weinstein and Lauer can be cancelled what chance do I have”? I’ve got to put my head between my knees and maybe into the sand. It’s a witch hunt for racists, antisemites and homophobes.

    Replies: @anon

    Tucker is like the modern day Howard Beale to the Fox folks. He’s telling “terrible” truths to the masses

    How funny was it, though, that in that movie, the truth he was trying to tell everyone was that the Arabs are trying to control the media?

    “It’s the Arabs! The Arabs are trying to take over the media!”, said the character in the Jewish man’s script.

    I’ve always kind of wondered why Chayefsky put that angle in there. Was it some weird fantasy Chayefsky actually had? Or was he actually making a subtle dig at his own people, and what would happen to people who pointed out the uncomfortable facts?

    It’s too obvious of a thing to just be in the script for no reason.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  55. This whole thing kind of makes me wonder if we’ll ever hear Norm Eisen’s name ever mentioned again, after Darren Beattie’s brief segment on Tucker yesterday.

  56. @MEH 0910
    @Muggles



    “Fox hos”
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?
     
    Honest mistake:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306283427847712768

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Muggles, @Neoconned, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ragno

    Even Gingrich can’t mention him damn.

    Anyway so Steve your thesis is that Soros is basically a Biden like meat puppet on autopilot being run by his lieutenants?

  57. @Chrisnonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    It's kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off. Bad air quality keeping people off the streets? Barr's proactivity? Antifa finally realizing their bad optics?

    With people's short memories, if the rioting doesn't continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won't give Trump an election bump he needs...

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @ben tillman

    It’s kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off.

    Antifa/BLM are traveling to DC for the, “50 Day White House Siege, ” that begins tomorrow.

  58. Anon[379] • Disclaimer says:

    Leaving Soros aside for the moment, a certain amount of what’s going on is liberals engaged in ‘disaster’ budgeting with a ton of ideological window dressing intended to disguise it.

    Cities don’t have the money to pay for imprisoning people, so they’ve decided to stop jailing criminals for anything that isn’t really serious, and have chosen to just turn them loose. They don’t have the courage to tell the public that they’re just going to have to put up with a high crime rate from now on. What they’ve done to sell this idea to the public is label it Social Justice. The mayors and city councils are hoping the public is dumb enough they won’t catch on. This is why bail has been done away with in some places. Even if all you’re doing is sitting in a cell waiting for trial, the city still has to feed and house you, and you’re a financial burden. Getting rid of bail means the city doesn’t have to pay for you.

    As for cops, the cities want to fire them all, break the police unions, and rehire a police force at half (or even lower) of the salary, and offer no pension or perks at all. This is the whole reason behind the defund the police force movement.

    If you’ve been paying attention to the riots, you’ll notice that in places like Portland, there have been an awful lot of teachers joining the violence. Ultimately, the riots are a tale of two unions fighting each other. The teachers union is determined to preserve their own pension by destroying the police union’s pension. The teachers are hoping to gobble up the ‘defunded’ police money to use for their own salaries and pensions.

    The teachers are too stupid to understand that they’re next on the chopping block after cops. The cities still don’t have enough money to pay teachers at the current rates even after destroying the police force and freeing all the criminals they can. Eventually, the teachers will all be fired, and be replaced by those working for half the salary with no pension.

    As for Soros, he’s an ideological fanatic, but the only reason big liberal Democratic cities are taking his money and advice is because their budget troubles align with his agenda.

    You can bust the teachers’ and police unions and still keep a city going. But you can’t dump every violent criminal out of the street without the taxpayers fleeing for the lives. They will move out of the city, and then nothing will be left except for those on welfare. At that point, the funding problems will become impossible. The only thing left after that is to cut off the welfare payments, and thus force the parasites to starve or leave.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    JESUS!!!!Are America's cities that financially bankrupt?

    Replies: @Zim, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Rob
    @Anon

    No arguments here, really. I do question what the intelligent response to all that is. I think we should hope that black and criminal-friendly cities act as honey pots, drawing in the worst “Americans” who want the police-free utopia.As blacks, and especially criminal blacks flock to these cities, the tax-payers will flee, as you say. The issue is, what is our response when the cities truly no longer function, and can’t produce the economic surplus to maintain their populations in the lifestyles to which they have become accostoned? I think we do not want them spewing their retched refuse in decent areas of the country. Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing will have menses pressure behind it. Resistance to it will also be tremendous. People will have just seen the blacks drive civilized people out of the cities, and know that they need to flee or fight when the urban aborigines fall into their areas.

    The erstwhile former urbanites are are not going to be comfortably resettled in decent areas. Their culture is vile, and does not sit comfortably with American behavioral norms. Even if one buys nurtur-only theories of racial differences, there is essentially no hope for any urbanite older than, say, eight, of living compatibly, much less productively with White or even Hispanic Americans. Their genetic endowment will be even lower than the average black. Check out https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/class-caste-and-genes/ for a simulation of separation turning a class sorting into castes with significant differences with fairly low heritibilities.

    I think the best result would be to treat those cities as state and federally supported Bantustans.for blacks, a situation nearly analogous to the American Indians. The Indians get to live more or less how they want, and we are mostly spared their dysfunctions.

    Losing some cities won’t be the disaster then that it would have been a few decades ago. Even New York will likely have less economic activity in a decade or two. Now that peop,e are used to working from home, they are less likely to want to go back to long commutes from suburbs to offices in big cities. In a work from home corporate culture, companies will have a fairly easy time relocating, and they will abandon the depoliced cities. Losing cities does not bode well for a manufacturing revival, but if we do have another industrial revolution, the slum population won’t be cspable of participating, and companies will likely prefer locating factories far away from populations they’d rather not be required to hire.

    TL;dr, if we don’t do something to keep the least civilized “Americans” separated, then we’ll have to deal with them everywhere.

    , @Jack D
    @Anon

    In some cases, it's explicit. The new Leftist DA in Philadelphia requires the assistant DA's who are conducting the trials to announce to the court how much it costs the taxpayers to keep someone locked up for a year so that they won't give out a long sentence.

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/philadelphia-prosecutors-must-include-cost-of-prison-time-during-sentencing/175626/

    I would say its money well spent, at least compared to most of what the government wastes its money on - e.g overly generous pensions that are far higher that what prevails in the private sector.

  59. Steve,
    I am perplexed by your last paragraph. Pray tell, why should Soros change his mind at this late date when he’s now on the verge of his biggest caper: taking over the judicial system 0f the world’s preeminent power!

  60. @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger
     
    No he didn't. Neither the act itself or "admitting" it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can't recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Coemgen, @Hibernian, @Ozymandias, @Alden, @John Milton’s Ghost

    Hungary was an ally of Germany in WW2. German troops didn’t occupy Hungary till 1943.
    Soros was 9 when the war began and 14 when it ended, not much help to anyone for anything.

    And who cares what he did between 9 and 14 in another country? What matters is what he’s been doing to destroy America for the last 30 years.

    He and his sons and employees should be in some super max prison for life.

    • Replies: @gcochran
    @Alden

    1944.

    , @Hibernian
    @Alden

    He has openly stated that it does not bother him at all that at 14 he had a small part in the confiscation of Jewish property. Not "Look, I was 14 and I was under duress," but a shrug of the shoulders. It gives some insight into his mindset and activities as an adult in free societies.

    Replies: @Jack D

  61. The three women all have very strong connections to the Jewish community (Francis is Jewish, Harf is probably Jewish (had minor in Jewish studies in college) and Faulkner is married to a Jew) and are probably petrified of being shunned at NYC/DC dinner parties and losing their jobs if they’re less than fanatical in attacking even the slightest perception of antisemitism.

    Implying antisemitism when defending George Soros is just like yelling racist when defending Barack Obama. It’s a way to deflect criticism and stifle the argument without having to refute the premise.

    • Replies: @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Art Deco
    @Arthur Biggs

    Harf is probably Jewish

    She isn't. Her father grew up in Altoona, Pennsylvania (and attended a Catholic high school) and her mother's from around St. Louis. Her family goes way back in southern Illinois and western Pennsylvania. Some mid-19th century German immigration, with the rest already present in the US prior to 1940.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Jack D
    @Arthur Biggs

    The anti-Semites of unz continue their unbroken record of falsely tagging people they don't like as Jewish. The actual count is zero out of these three women are Jewish. Usually if an unz anti-Semite tags someone as Jewish who is already not widely known to be Jewish, that decreases the odds that that he or she actually are more than random guessing.

    If you want to know why most mainstream figures try to give wide berth to anything touching on anti-Semitism, it's because of guys like Arthur.

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Arthur Biggs


    Harf is probably Jewish
     
    With a face like this?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Official_Harf_Photograph.jpg

    Your Jewdar needs to be re-calibrated.
    , @Art Deco
    @Arthur Biggs

    Faulkner is married to a Jew

    Her father in law was Jewish. Her mother in law is German / English grew up in St. Joseph, Mo and El Paso, Tx.

  62. “OK…

    I really can’t talk and listen to this voice telling me I’d better shut it or find a new job in the morning at the same time. It’s even worse when I chew gum …”

  63. @Sandy Berger's Socks
    Soros is an evil old bastard.

    That said, his destabilization efforts would not have been nearly as successful, if the United States was a healthy republic.

    Only, a nation ruled by whores, would allow men like Soros the unfettered ability to meddle, interfere and weaponize large segments of the population against the common good, and get rich while they are doing it.

    Soros is 89 years old and may well outlive the United States. But he is a only a symptom, not the disease.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I mashed [Agree], but I’m not sure I agree with the last sentence exactly. I’d put it this way. If Americans had been taking politics as seriously as college football for the last 50 years, I believe we’d not have to worry about any evil rich bastard like this “buying” an election. After all, people still vote, right?

    One buys an election when the people are stupid enough to go by the Lyin’ Press ads and the billboards with the handsome guy with the nice hair. Fuck these voters, as they’ve brought us all down with them.

    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Fuck these voters, as they’ve brought us all down with them.
     
    "these voters" are women.

    fortunately Trump does pretty well with women... so we'll see.
  64. @MEH 0910
    @Muggles



    “Fox hos”
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?
     
    Honest mistake:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306283427847712768

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Muggles, @Neoconned, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ragno

    not so obvious to me.

  65. Did you see Outnumbered on Fox News today?

    Who was it who said you are ruled by those you are not allowed to criticize?

    • Replies: @pilgrim007
    @I, Libertine

    Voltaire

  66. @Anonymous
    @bartolo1

    The initial demurral seemingly came from off-camera ex-CNBC hostess Melissa Francis, of "Little House on the Prairie" fame, not Faulkner (the one who struggled with analogical maritime structural terminology at the end).

    Whether someone else said it into Francis's ear, would be interesting to know, but anyway, it was she who launched this bungled daytime operation of crimestop

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Melissa Francis, of “Little House on the Prairie” fame

    Not exactly in the tradition of Laura Ingalls Wilder, Rose Wilder Lane, and Roger Lea MacBride, is she?

  67. OT: this is anecdotal but i spent the better part of 2 decades in the service industry. This included work in restaurants, department stores, Walmart, a dollar store, gas stations, warehouses, casinos and other such institutions and enterprises….long story short i do Doordash on the side for extra cash & a lotta the older workers i used to work with especially in restaurants are telling me about big time labor shortages.

    Me and my wife went to Taco Bell an hour ago….830 CST….theu were already closed. Taco Bell is famous for their late night pothead clientele.

    The overnight manager at the local McDonald’s here is 43 years old and a smoker. I’d say he has 15 yrs left before he gets forcibly retired due to health ailments. I’m pushing 40 myself.

    I knew there were labor shortages in many industries and they will get worse as the Boomers and older Xers retire….but i thought it was still a decade out…..does your area have bad service worker shortages?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Neoconned

    In my area, a lot of small businesses have shut down, but there are also some labor shortages. Those businesses that are seeing sales improve are having trouble hiring because of work-stress. Some of them are so busy that potential new employees don't want to face the craziness of working there.

    Since 95% of all small businesses will shut down at some point, many that closed were already marginal earners at best, so it left the stronger businesses even more strong than before.

    Some of the labor shortage is artificial, since the government delayed evictions and is still passing out unemployment money.

    Replies: @anon

  68. “SHUT UP!”, she explained.

    • Agree: 36 ulster
  69. Wtf I love Newt now. This is the last time the boomers will be seeing him on (((Fox.)))

  70. Anon[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned
    OT: this is anecdotal but i spent the better part of 2 decades in the service industry. This included work in restaurants, department stores, Walmart, a dollar store, gas stations, warehouses, casinos and other such institutions and enterprises....long story short i do Doordash on the side for extra cash & a lotta the older workers i used to work with especially in restaurants are telling me about big time labor shortages.

    Me and my wife went to Taco Bell an hour ago....830 CST....theu were already closed. Taco Bell is famous for their late night pothead clientele.

    The overnight manager at the local McDonald's here is 43 years old and a smoker. I'd say he has 15 yrs left before he gets forcibly retired due to health ailments. I'm pushing 40 myself.

    I knew there were labor shortages in many industries and they will get worse as the Boomers and older Xers retire....but i thought it was still a decade out.....does your area have bad service worker shortages?

    Replies: @Anon

    In my area, a lot of small businesses have shut down, but there are also some labor shortages. Those businesses that are seeing sales improve are having trouble hiring because of work-stress. Some of them are so busy that potential new employees don’t want to face the craziness of working there.

    Since 95% of all small businesses will shut down at some point, many that closed were already marginal earners at best, so it left the stronger businesses even more strong than before.

    Some of the labor shortage is artificial, since the government delayed evictions and is still passing out unemployment money.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    Well maybe they should just give their business over to blm to get more people in. See you destroy something, then someone else buys it or just takes over and people will go there.

    I guess you could do that as a sort of racket to move more of your own people into businesses that would be owned by someone else, in the case of food stores it would be like having a captive supply of customers.

    I guess too you could lower the value of the area then do your own gentrification with your own people buying up the property. I was wondering if they weren't trying to do that with sports teams. Eventually the white owners will sell for cheap to maybe black owners.

    But I'm not privy to insider information on what groups like them are trying to do.

  71. @Hibernian
    @Trinity

    Polish and Italian people change names too. My paternal grandfather exchanged a Polish surname for the surname I carry. There's no connection between the two names except that my Grandfather bore both of them at different stages of his life. Irish surnames were generally changed at least to some extent in Ireland under British rule.

    Replies: @Richard S

    The anglicisation of Irish names has always been interesting to me; how Irish phonology and soundforms are reflected in a quite different language.

    Ó Muimhneacháin in 17th century Ireland becomes Minihane in 18th century English and Moynihan in 19th century America. Mac Ainmhire became Convery or Hanbury, depending on the aural sensitivity of some literate clerk 150 years ago.

    Diphthong sounds in Ireland don’t just change over time, they literally vary from to tayne (Belfast) to tao-n (Dublin).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Richard S


    The [A]nglicisation of Irish names has always been interesting to me; how Irish phonology and soundforms are reflected in a quite different language.
     
    The Scottish MacLeod became "Machlejd" in Poland. Gavin MacLeod and Tadeusz Wladyslaw "Ted Knight" Konopka might have been related!


    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTAzNDQzOTYwNzZeQTJeQWpwZ15BbWU4MDg0NzEzNDIx._V1_.jpg

    MacLeod recalls how he brought longtime friend and Mary Tyler Moore co-star Ted Knight to Christ just before he died.


    Poles apart: Girl's journey from war-torn Warsaw to Skye


    Diphthong sounds in Ireland don’t just change over time, they literally vary from to tayne (Belfast) to tao-n (Dublin).
     
    Anglophones mangle classical Greek (and Latin) diphthongs, but I understand modern Greeks do the same, and in the same fashion.
  72. @Redman
    @Dave Pinsen

    Can you please translate? What does this mean?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    His point is that it probably doesn’t serve the Jews well to try to forbid criticism of ANY Jew, as much of our elite class has tried to do in recent years. Having said that, anyone – and especially any Jew – should be heavily praised for opposing Israel.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @AndrewR

    Israel is an often bad country which has done some bad things, but whose chief evil is a special exemption from serious discussion (cf Azerbaijan, which is under-discussed for its obscurity rather than influence). George Soros is one of the most uncomplicatedly unambiguously evil human beings alive and he honestly wants the whole world to burn as a kind of "Trading Places" stunt. In this case I stand with Israel.

  73. @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    I do know he admitted to collaborating with Nazis when he was younger
     
    No he didn't. Neither the act itself or "admitting" it. But a certain variety of online operative go on about it constantly. One assumes this is to distract from his Jewish identity. All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.

    There is a TV interview where he explains he was present at the confiscation of the house/property of a Jewish family in Hungary. The family were not present having already gone abroad.

    (It is this interview that is held against him, despite him not admitting to anything)

    He was 14 at the time and was there with his Hungarian protector, the guy overseeing the confiscation, little George was being passed off as his godson or a relative (can't recall off hand).

    He played no part in this operation, did not benefit in any way.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Coemgen, @Hibernian, @Ozymandias, @Alden, @John Milton’s Ghost

    Wait, if these right wing operatives want to “distract from his Jewish identity,” then why do all his left wing enablers keep calling out antiSemitism? You can’t have it both ways.

    Yes he was 14. He didn’t personally benefit. He kept his head down. All understandable.

    The main point still stands. There’s nothing anti Semitic about criticizing this man. There’s nothing Jewish about this man either—what he attempts to do does not even fit the most liberal Reform Jewish vision of justice.

    • Troll: 36 ulster
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @danand, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @S

    , @Lurker
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    Wait, if these right wing operatives want to “distract from his Jewish identity,”
     
    I never mentioned "right wing" operatives.

    It's obviously a hasbara script, it is they who are determined to push this 'nazi collaborator' idea.

    There are dozens of them on Breitbart right now foaming at the mouth about it.
  74. OT: Criminals are getting organized and upping the ante in Chicago. They know the prosecutor won’t touch them.

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-police-investigating-several-carjackings-violent-robberies-targeting-women/2338996/

  75. @Anon
    Leaving Soros aside for the moment, a certain amount of what's going on is liberals engaged in 'disaster' budgeting with a ton of ideological window dressing intended to disguise it.

    Cities don't have the money to pay for imprisoning people, so they've decided to stop jailing criminals for anything that isn't really serious, and have chosen to just turn them loose. They don't have the courage to tell the public that they're just going to have to put up with a high crime rate from now on. What they've done to sell this idea to the public is label it Social Justice. The mayors and city councils are hoping the public is dumb enough they won't catch on. This is why bail has been done away with in some places. Even if all you're doing is sitting in a cell waiting for trial, the city still has to feed and house you, and you're a financial burden. Getting rid of bail means the city doesn't have to pay for you.

    As for cops, the cities want to fire them all, break the police unions, and rehire a police force at half (or even lower) of the salary, and offer no pension or perks at all. This is the whole reason behind the defund the police force movement.

    If you've been paying attention to the riots, you'll notice that in places like Portland, there have been an awful lot of teachers joining the violence. Ultimately, the riots are a tale of two unions fighting each other. The teachers union is determined to preserve their own pension by destroying the police union's pension. The teachers are hoping to gobble up the 'defunded' police money to use for their own salaries and pensions.

    The teachers are too stupid to understand that they're next on the chopping block after cops. The cities still don't have enough money to pay teachers at the current rates even after destroying the police force and freeing all the criminals they can. Eventually, the teachers will all be fired, and be replaced by those working for half the salary with no pension.

    As for Soros, he's an ideological fanatic, but the only reason big liberal Democratic cities are taking his money and advice is because their budget troubles align with his agenda.

    You can bust the teachers' and police unions and still keep a city going. But you can't dump every violent criminal out of the street without the taxpayers fleeing for the lives. They will move out of the city, and then nothing will be left except for those on welfare. At that point, the funding problems will become impossible. The only thing left after that is to cut off the welfare payments, and thus force the parasites to starve or leave.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob, @Jack D

    JESUS!!!!Are America’s cities that financially bankrupt?

    • Replies: @Zim
    @Anonymous

    Only Democrat run ones. FACT

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous


    JESUS!!!!Are America’s cities that financially bankrupt?
     
    Not just cities but entire states such as Illinois and California. Check out the details at pensiontsunami.com. Of course all will be well when the Harris administration cranks up the Fed's printing presses for another 3 or 4 $trillion.
  76. @Alden
    @Lurker

    Hungary was an ally of Germany in WW2. German troops didn’t occupy Hungary till 1943.
    Soros was 9 when the war began and 14 when it ended, not much help to anyone for anything.

    And who cares what he did between 9 and 14 in another country? What matters is what he’s been doing to destroy America for the last 30 years.

    He and his sons and employees should be in some super max prison for life.

    Replies: @gcochran, @Hibernian

    1944.

  77. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/baqlavas/status/1305665815967084545

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Aeronerauk

    One problem: he can’t.

  78. Is Soros funding the group that bailed out Timothy Wayne Columbus? Or just Kamala’s friends? And how come this Columbus doesn’t have a mugshot?

    Man accused of sexually assaulting 8-year-old among those bailed out by fund promoted by Kamala Harris

    https://mugshots.com/US-States/Minnesota/Hennepin-County-MN/Minneapolis/Timothy-Wayne-Columbus.183922910.html

    Not sure if this guy was a rioter. Many, if not most, of the rioters in Portland are sex deviants. If Kenosha is any sign, in the Midwest they’re just wife-beaters.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Not sure if this guy was a rioter. Many, if not most, of the rioters in Portland are sex deviants.
     
    No they aren't. It should be enough to say that they're arsonists and looters. All are male feminist manginas, but it's a stretch to call that "sexual deviancy." We don't need to turn this into another front of your puritanical white knighting campaign.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  79. @moshe
    George Soros happily collaborated with Nazis and refered to it as the best time in his life.

    As far as I can tell he was a monster from birth.

    Netanyahu paid for ads in Hungary saying that opposition to Soros is PHILO-semitism.

    The fact that he was a happy collaborator with the Nazis should be repeated until it becomes common knowledge.

    P.S. Besides his collaboration with nazis I know close to nothing about him or his policies.

    Replies: @anon

    P.S. Besides his collaboration with nazis I know close to nothing about him or his policies.

    Well now, there’s a surprise, moshe.

  80. @Harry Baldwin
    @bartolo1

    Wasn't it talking too much about Soros that got Glenn Beck axed at Fox News?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @bartolo1

    Prior to getting into hot water with truthing about Soros, there was this:

    July 28, 2009: Beck calls Obama a “racist” with a “deep seated hatred for white people.” Discussing Obama’s response to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Beck asserts that Obama has “a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.” After being reminded that Obama has numerous white staffers, Beck contradicted himself, stating, “I’m not saying that he doesn’t like white people. I’m saying he has a problem,” before going on to state, “this guy is, I believe, a racist.” [Fox News’ Fox & Friends, 7/28/09]

    Beck suffered multiple body blows after that statement, the country was still warm and fuzzy about the racist in chief.

    He left Fox in Apr 2011. Looking back on some of the things Beck said, I am reminded of why I am fond of the guy.

    And yes……….he went at Soros

    Beck biographer Alexander Zaitchik, who says that Beck was caught in a vicious circle: “To keep viewers coming back, he had to keep creating new, more intricate theories. Last November, in a two-part special that indirectly invoked anti-Semitism, he accused liberal Jewish financier George Soros of orchestrating the fall of foreign governments for financial gain. During the Egyptian Revolution, Beck sided with Hosni Mubarak, alleging that his fall was ‘controlled by the socialist communists and the Muslim Brotherhood.’ ”

    In another recent example, Beck warned viewers not to use Google, saying it’s “deep in bed with the government.”

    Fox should bring back Beck and boot Hannity.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @bartolo1

    ... yeah, all of those have either panned out or are perfectly reasonable. Yes, Egyptian democracy was an Ikhwan trick. And where would corporate woke be if employing particular people proved non-racism?

  81. OT: Peaceful Protestors and white guys with mommy issues have a new favorite Halloween costume:

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/artists-180-karen-halloween-mask-sells-out-quickly/

  82. @TWS
    Soros has ruined entire states and foreign nations. He should be tried for crimes against humanity

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @ben tillman, @Anonymous

    What gets me is that he’s continually referred to as a philanthropist. Does anyone actually know what that word means?

    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @ben tillman

    The host of NPR's “On the Media” once described George Soros as “the billionaire with a heart of gold.” You know, like Auric Goldfinger.

  83. @Prof. Woland
    Good. Now we know what bothers them.

    I have a feeling that Harris Faulkner had the producer shouting in her inductive ear piece to get off the subject quickly. Marie Harf was already trained and housebroken.

    Replies: @anon, @ben tillman, @Richard B

    But why does it bother them?

  84. @Muggles

    "Fox hos"
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a "t" or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?

    Does he just write that about the Fox female interviewers are all all of them ...? (Is he supposed to be someone we know?)

    This Cardi B stuff has got to stop!

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Roderick Spode

    Typo or no, he’s not wrong.

    • Replies: @Magic Dirt Resident
    @Roderick Spode

    Michael Savage calls them the chorus line of strippers. Btw, nice name Lord Sidcup

  85. @Reg Cæsar
    Is Soros funding the group that bailed out Timothy Wayne Columbus? Or just Kamala's friends? And how come this Columbus doesn't have a mugshot?

    Man accused of sexually assaulting 8-year-old among those bailed out by fund promoted by Kamala Harris




    https://mugshots.com/US-States/Minnesota/Hennepin-County-MN/Minneapolis/Timothy-Wayne-Columbus.183922910.html


    Not sure if this guy was a rioter. Many, if not most, of the rioters in Portland are sex deviants. If Kenosha is any sign, in the Midwest they're just wife-beaters.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Not sure if this guy was a rioter. Many, if not most, of the rioters in Portland are sex deviants.

    No they aren’t. It should be enough to say that they’re arsonists and looters. All are male feminist manginas, but it’s a stretch to call that “sexual deviancy.” We don’t need to turn this into another front of your puritanical white knighting campaign.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    Being called "puritanical" by Transnonymous-- that's richer than Soros himself.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  86. Fox hos. the typo of the year.

  87. @Ozymandias
    @Lurker


    All of a piece with the tedious refrain that the Democrats are Nazis and Antifa are the new brownshirts.
     
    You completely misunderstand. In the Weimar Republic, the bolsheviks were in the streets intimidating people. The brownshirts formed as a reaction to that because the government had failed to respond. In Weimerica, the bolsheviks are in the streets, but you haven't seen the brownshirts yet. The whole point here is to avoid their appearance; when mobs are fighting for control of the streets, no matter who wins, everyone loses.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    No, he understands perfectly. Fascists were the reaction to and opponents of the bolshevists. Today’s bolshevists cannot be fascists.

  88. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Lurker

    Wait, if these right wing operatives want to “distract from his Jewish identity,” then why do all his left wing enablers keep calling out antiSemitism? You can’t have it both ways.

    Yes he was 14. He didn’t personally benefit. He kept his head down. All understandable.

    The main point still stands. There’s nothing anti Semitic about criticizing this man. There’s nothing Jewish about this man either—what he attempts to do does not even fit the most liberal Reform Jewish vision of justice.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lurker

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Steve Sailer

    educated people in Europe knew that "Esperanto" was a "trope" - favorite word of the MSM today, hahhahaaaaa. Also, when Soros was all butt-hard about Esperanto, it was all to attract the EST dumb-ass Californians and other Americans. Esperanto was just a bullshit language to seem cool and sexy to dumb Americans and Europeans. Remember: most people are extremely insecure and lie about their impoverished and plain-assed backgrounds. Soros has made lying a career to take advantage of people. He despises people...just like a true psychopath.

    Psychopaths like Soros, always sniff the money. Therefore, he knows: Wall Street and Hollywood is what he needs to control.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @danand
    @Steve Sailer

    Is not Soros one of those Esperanto "One New World" promoting lunatics?

    https://flic.kr/p/2jHj2vt

    "New World Order (NWO) in conspiracy theories is the hypothesis of a secretly emerging totalitarian world government."

    Beware the Eye:

    https://flic.kr/p/2jHj4Vi

    , @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname.
     
    Not sure if this is tongue-in-cheek. Soros' last name at birth was Schwartz. It is not clear that the adopted last name "Soros" is based on Esperanto. Soros' father Theodor Schwartz was certainly an Esperanto activist, but he may simply have settled on Soros because it is a neat palindrome.

    Many upper-middle class Jewish families in the former Austro-Hungarian empire proudly spoke German at home. IF that was indeed the case in the Schwartz/Soros family, it is perhaps understandable that young George might have chosen to withhold this detail of his background as he made his way in post-war Britain and later in the U.S.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.
     
    Esperanto is the metric system of languages. Any connection to natural human processes is coincidental and deceptive.

    It's just harder for a government to force a language on its people than a measurement tool.
    , @S
    @Steve Sailer

    No conspiracy here, but, let's not forget the world's second feature length Esperanto film, the horror movie Incubus starring William Shatner. This was in 1966 just before Shatner started his Star Trek gig.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/32/Incubus_like_the_sea.png

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus_(1966_film)

  89. @Arthur Biggs
    The three women all have very strong connections to the Jewish community (Francis is Jewish, Harf is probably Jewish (had minor in Jewish studies in college) and Faulkner is married to a Jew) and are probably petrified of being shunned at NYC/DC dinner parties and losing their jobs if they're less than fanatical in attacking even the slightest perception of antisemitism.

    Implying antisemitism when defending George Soros is just like yelling racist when defending Barack Obama. It's a way to deflect criticism and stifle the argument without having to refute the premise.

    Replies: @Dnought, @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named “Melissa”.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Dnought

    She's a modern Catholic - Methodist subdivision!

    , @kaganovitch
    @Dnought

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named “Melissa”.

    Melissa Rauch (Bernadette Rostenkowski-Wolowitz of Big Bang Theory) is Jewish.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dnought


    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named “Melissa”.
     
    They already have a name that means "honeybee"-- Deborah.

    Why Am I Named After a Bee? The Jewish name of Deborah (Devorah)

    Melissa = Bee
    , @ben tillman
    @Dnought


    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named “Melissa”.
     
    Who Is Joe Biden’s New Jewish Daughter-In-Law, Melissa Cohen?

    https://forward.com/schmooze/426918/who-is-joe-bidens-new-jewish-daughter-in-law-melissa-cohen/
    , @Arthur Biggs
    @Dnought

    She is listed as being of Jewish heritage. https://myhowbook.com/biography/melissa-francis-biography
    I know several people whose parents converted to Christianity, or have one parent who was a non-practicing Jew and they still have a strong ethnic bond.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Jack D
    @Dnought

    There are plenty of Jewish girls named Melissa. Non-Orthodox American Jews pick the same names for their kids as other Goodwhites, with the exception of names that have explicit Christian connotations (e.g. Christopher) and sometimes they even pick those because they think that they sound good and because they don't know about or care about the Christian origin of the name.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Dnought

    Never heard of Joan Rivers' talentless daughter?


    Melissa Warburg Rosenberg, better known as Melissa Rivers, is an American actress and television host. She is the only child of comedian Joan Rivers and producer Edgar Rosenberg.
     
  90. Lawyer-dominated legislatures ensure that DAs are always sucky lawyers.

    Why should anyone care who wins?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Abolish_public_education

    Richie Daley was an obvious political hack as States's Attorney before he became Mayor. He didn't join in an effort to open the jail doors.

  91. @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @danand, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @S

    educated people in Europe knew that “Esperanto” was a “trope” – favorite word of the MSM today, hahhahaaaaa. Also, when Soros was all butt-hard about Esperanto, it was all to attract the EST dumb-ass Californians and other Americans. Esperanto was just a bullshit language to seem cool and sexy to dumb Americans and Europeans. Remember: most people are extremely insecure and lie about their impoverished and plain-assed backgrounds. Soros has made lying a career to take advantage of people. He despises people…just like a true psychopath.

    Psychopaths like Soros, always sniff the money. Therefore, he knows: Wall Street and Hollywood is what he needs to control.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Lagertha


    Esperanto was just a bullshit language to seem cool and sexy to dumb Americans and Europeans.
     
    The problem with Esperanto is that it claims to be a universal human language, but its provincial, Central/Eastern European roots are far too visible.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  92. anon[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    It's kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off. Bad air quality keeping people off the streets? Barr's proactivity? Antifa finally realizing their bad optics?

    With people's short memories, if the rioting doesn't continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won't give Trump an election bump he needs...

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @ben tillman

    With people’s short memories, if the rioting doesn’t continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won’t give Trump an election bump he needs…

    Well, maybe. On the other hand, if athletes keep kneeling and putting the names of black criminals on their helmets, that will help remind people. And I doubt the rest of the media is just going to drop all the white-hatred anytime soon.

    Hopefully, people will keep associating all of that with the riots. They should, after all, since the BLM/Antifa riots are the justification for why normal whites have to be published.

    And if they don’t make that association on their own, I feel like it’s our duty to keep reminding them, in whatever way we can.

  93. @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    She’s a modern Catholic – Methodist subdivision!

  94. @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @danand, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @S

    Is not Soros one of those Esperanto “One New World” promoting lunatics?

    one world

    “New World Order (NWO) in conspiracy theories is the hypothesis of a secretly emerging totalitarian world government.”

    Beware the Eye:

    1024px-Great_Seal_of_the_United_States_(reverse).svg

  95. @Anonymous
    The most most protest on saying Soros’ name came from Melissa Francis, a child actress (Cassandra Cooper Ingalls on Little House on the Prairie) turned TV financial news host with a Harvard econ degree. I always thought she (((was ))) but I can’t find anything to substantiate that.

    Btw, in this clip from 2017 all three of those Fox News women are also present and Francis starts crying over the issue of race:

    https://twitter.com/johnnydollar01/status/897853710302425088?s=20

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Dieter Kief, @S

    Roger Ailes was a good man but unfortunately responsible for the legs-a-mania displays of these four nitwits!

  96. @bartolo1
    @Harry Baldwin

    Prior to getting into hot water with truthing about Soros, there was this:

    July 28, 2009: Beck calls Obama a “racist” with a “deep seated hatred for white people.” Discussing Obama's response to the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Beck asserts that Obama has “a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.” After being reminded that Obama has numerous white staffers, Beck contradicted himself, stating, “I'm not saying that he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem,” before going on to state, “this guy is, I believe, a racist.” [Fox News' Fox & Friends, 7/28/09]

    Beck suffered multiple body blows after that statement, the country was still warm and fuzzy about the racist in chief.

    He left Fox in Apr 2011. Looking back on some of the things Beck said, I am reminded of why I am fond of the guy.

    And yes..........he went at Soros

    Beck biographer Alexander Zaitchik, who says that Beck was caught in a vicious circle: “To keep viewers coming back, he had to keep creating new, more intricate theories. Last November, in a two-part special that indirectly invoked anti-Semitism, he accused liberal Jewish financier George Soros of orchestrating the fall of foreign governments for financial gain. During the Egyptian Revolution, Beck sided with Hosni Mubarak, alleging that his fall was ‘controlled by the socialist communists and the Muslim Brotherhood.’ ”

    In another recent example, Beck warned viewers not to use Google, saying it’s “deep in bed with the government.”

    Fox should bring back Beck and boot Hannity.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    … yeah, all of those have either panned out or are perfectly reasonable. Yes, Egyptian democracy was an Ikhwan trick. And where would corporate woke be if employing particular people proved non-racism?

  97. @AndrewR
    @Redman

    His point is that it probably doesn't serve the Jews well to try to forbid criticism of ANY Jew, as much of our elite class has tried to do in recent years. Having said that, anyone - and especially any Jew - should be heavily praised for opposing Israel.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Israel is an often bad country which has done some bad things, but whose chief evil is a special exemption from serious discussion (cf Azerbaijan, which is under-discussed for its obscurity rather than influence). George Soros is one of the most uncomplicatedly unambiguously evil human beings alive and he honestly wants the whole world to burn as a kind of “Trading Places” stunt. In this case I stand with Israel.

  98. @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named “Melissa”.

    Melissa Rauch (Bernadette Rostenkowski-Wolowitz of Big Bang Theory) is Jewish.

  99. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @TWS
    Soros has ruined entire states and foreign nations. He should be tried for crimes against humanity

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @ben tillman, @Anonymous

    George Soros’ late brother Paul also helped out by building up local candidates, such as the county attorney in California:

    https://www.pdsoros.org/meet-the-fellows/james-williams

    A county attorney has significant powers enabling him to shape local policies, and can even bring criminal prosecutions for certain crimes (like a DA), in addition to many other special powers coupled with access to federal and state intelligence agencies.

    Apparently, regular promotion practices don’t apply if you are a Soros-funded hotshot with a direct wire to Mordor.

    • Agree: TWS
  100. @Anon
    Leaving Soros aside for the moment, a certain amount of what's going on is liberals engaged in 'disaster' budgeting with a ton of ideological window dressing intended to disguise it.

    Cities don't have the money to pay for imprisoning people, so they've decided to stop jailing criminals for anything that isn't really serious, and have chosen to just turn them loose. They don't have the courage to tell the public that they're just going to have to put up with a high crime rate from now on. What they've done to sell this idea to the public is label it Social Justice. The mayors and city councils are hoping the public is dumb enough they won't catch on. This is why bail has been done away with in some places. Even if all you're doing is sitting in a cell waiting for trial, the city still has to feed and house you, and you're a financial burden. Getting rid of bail means the city doesn't have to pay for you.

    As for cops, the cities want to fire them all, break the police unions, and rehire a police force at half (or even lower) of the salary, and offer no pension or perks at all. This is the whole reason behind the defund the police force movement.

    If you've been paying attention to the riots, you'll notice that in places like Portland, there have been an awful lot of teachers joining the violence. Ultimately, the riots are a tale of two unions fighting each other. The teachers union is determined to preserve their own pension by destroying the police union's pension. The teachers are hoping to gobble up the 'defunded' police money to use for their own salaries and pensions.

    The teachers are too stupid to understand that they're next on the chopping block after cops. The cities still don't have enough money to pay teachers at the current rates even after destroying the police force and freeing all the criminals they can. Eventually, the teachers will all be fired, and be replaced by those working for half the salary with no pension.

    As for Soros, he's an ideological fanatic, but the only reason big liberal Democratic cities are taking his money and advice is because their budget troubles align with his agenda.

    You can bust the teachers' and police unions and still keep a city going. But you can't dump every violent criminal out of the street without the taxpayers fleeing for the lives. They will move out of the city, and then nothing will be left except for those on welfare. At that point, the funding problems will become impossible. The only thing left after that is to cut off the welfare payments, and thus force the parasites to starve or leave.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob, @Jack D

    No arguments here, really. I do question what the intelligent response to all that is. I think we should hope that black and criminal-friendly cities act as honey pots, drawing in the worst “Americans” who want the police-free utopia.As blacks, and especially criminal blacks flock to these cities, the tax-payers will flee, as you say. The issue is, what is our response when the cities truly no longer function, and can’t produce the economic surplus to maintain their populations in the lifestyles to which they have become accostoned? I think we do not want them spewing their retched refuse in decent areas of the country. Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing will have menses pressure behind it. Resistance to it will also be tremendous. People will have just seen the blacks drive civilized people out of the cities, and know that they need to flee or fight when the urban aborigines fall into their areas.

    The erstwhile former urbanites are are not going to be comfortably resettled in decent areas. Their culture is vile, and does not sit comfortably with American behavioral norms. Even if one buys nurtur-only theories of racial differences, there is essentially no hope for any urbanite older than, say, eight, of living compatibly, much less productively with White or even Hispanic Americans. Their genetic endowment will be even lower than the average black. Check out https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/class-caste-and-genes/ for a simulation of separation turning a class sorting into castes with significant differences with fairly low heritibilities.

    I think the best result would be to treat those cities as state and federally supported Bantustans.for blacks, a situation nearly analogous to the American Indians. The Indians get to live more or less how they want, and we are mostly spared their dysfunctions.

    Losing some cities won’t be the disaster then that it would have been a few decades ago. Even New York will likely have less economic activity in a decade or two. Now that peop,e are used to working from home, they are less likely to want to go back to long commutes from suburbs to offices in big cities. In a work from home corporate culture, companies will have a fairly easy time relocating, and they will abandon the depoliced cities. Losing cities does not bode well for a manufacturing revival, but if we do have another industrial revolution, the slum population won’t be cspable of participating, and companies will likely prefer locating factories far away from populations they’d rather not be required to hire.

    TL;dr, if we don’t do something to keep the least civilized “Americans” separated, then we’ll have to deal with them everywhere.

  101. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Not sure if this guy was a rioter. Many, if not most, of the rioters in Portland are sex deviants.
     
    No they aren't. It should be enough to say that they're arsonists and looters. All are male feminist manginas, but it's a stretch to call that "sexual deviancy." We don't need to turn this into another front of your puritanical white knighting campaign.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Being called “puritanical” by Transnonymous– that’s richer than Soros himself.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Trannies are obsessed with sharing their sex fetish with the world, they aren't pretending to be normal people.

  102. @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named “Melissa”.

    They already have a name that means “honeybee”– Deborah.

    Why Am I Named After a Bee? The Jewish name of Deborah (Devorah)

    Melissa = Bee

  103. Soros (not his real name) also supported candidates in Secretary of State races (……who counts the votes………), although ostensibly not as much recently. He also, I believe, has funded a lot of efforts to legalize weed.

    Weed seems to figure prominently in a lot of people’s plans for the future (at least among those people who don’t smoke weed). The EoW (End of Work), UBI (Universal Basic Income) and Weed and Netflix – they go together like rural flight, bread, and circuses, which led to the creation of the Roman mob. I often wonder if the COVID-freakout wasn’t just a way to jump-start the new feudalism while deflecting blame away from the patricians oligarchs. We didn’t destroy your livelihood, COVID did that.

  104. What’s up with Harris Faulkner? Has she become an anorexic? Recently she looks rather emaciated.

  105. @Anonymous
    The most most protest on saying Soros’ name came from Melissa Francis, a child actress (Cassandra Cooper Ingalls on Little House on the Prairie) turned TV financial news host with a Harvard econ degree. I always thought she (((was ))) but I can’t find anything to substantiate that.

    Btw, in this clip from 2017 all three of those Fox News women are also present and Francis starts crying over the issue of race:

    https://twitter.com/johnnydollar01/status/897853710302425088?s=20

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Dieter Kief, @S

    Thanks. This looks like an interesting example for the thesis: Emos alone just don’t do.

    (In other words: Authenticity is a thing that compromises not least women (to be honest: I think with regard to public discourse, it compromises women more than men because getting very emotional rather easily can prevent you from understanding things (with regard to a discourse (= a public attempt to make reasonable choices(decisions)) and it even prevents you from making clear points).

  106. @Barnard
    Marie Harf is the Megan McCain of FOX News? I had no idea they had hired her to fill that role. If board member Paul Ryan ever does another interview someone should ask him about the ban on Soros bashing on FOX.

    Replies: @Sergeant Prepper, @Harry Baldwin, @Mr. Anon

    FOX News: The Blonde leading the Blonde.

    They certainly take the term “Fox” to heart

    It was remarkable how quickly the Crimestop came down. Maybe they remember that it was talking about Soros that got Glen Beck defenestrated at FOX.

  107. The news here is that anyone still thinks Fox News is conservative. They just keep a few token conservatives to keep up the ratings edge.

  108. A good article. We should have much more critical, substantiated & corroborated texts exposing Soros, rather than a torrent of unreadable conspiracy crap.

  109. @Chrisnonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    It's kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off. Bad air quality keeping people off the streets? Barr's proactivity? Antifa finally realizing their bad optics?

    With people's short memories, if the rioting doesn't continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won't give Trump an election bump he needs...

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @ben tillman

    Rioters realizing that they might get Rittenhoused might have something to do with it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Almost Missouri


    Rioters realizing that they might get Rittenhoused might have something to do with it.
     
    I think it is just evidence that the whole thing is NOT a loosely organized grassroots movement. It can be turned off and on at will.

    With the public questioning whether antifa is responsible for burning hundreds of thousands of acres throughout the West, it was time to slow things down.

    If those in charge feel it will be beneficial to ramp things up again, it will ramp up. If not, it won't.
  110. Soros, Gates, …Rothschild, Sassoon, etc moneys, the usual suspects

  111. @Lagertha
    @Steve Sailer

    educated people in Europe knew that "Esperanto" was a "trope" - favorite word of the MSM today, hahhahaaaaa. Also, when Soros was all butt-hard about Esperanto, it was all to attract the EST dumb-ass Californians and other Americans. Esperanto was just a bullshit language to seem cool and sexy to dumb Americans and Europeans. Remember: most people are extremely insecure and lie about their impoverished and plain-assed backgrounds. Soros has made lying a career to take advantage of people. He despises people...just like a true psychopath.

    Psychopaths like Soros, always sniff the money. Therefore, he knows: Wall Street and Hollywood is what he needs to control.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Esperanto was just a bullshit language to seem cool and sexy to dumb Americans and Europeans.

    The problem with Esperanto is that it claims to be a universal human language, but its provincial, Central/Eastern European roots are far too visible.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    The problem with Esperanto is that it claims to be a universal human language, but its provincial, Central/Eastern European roots are far too visible.
     
    There is always Toki Pona.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4y7tf3VJAM&vl=en
  112. But now, splendidly, everything had become clear. The enemy at last was plain in view, huge and hateful, all disguise cast off.

  113. @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named “Melissa”.

    Who Is Joe Biden’s New Jewish Daughter-In-Law, Melissa Cohen?

    https://forward.com/schmooze/426918/who-is-joe-bidens-new-jewish-daughter-in-law-melissa-cohen/

  114. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Chrisnonymous

    Rioters realizing that they might get Rittenhoused might have something to do with it.

    Replies: @Anon

    Rioters realizing that they might get Rittenhoused might have something to do with it.

    I think it is just evidence that the whole thing is NOT a loosely organized grassroots movement. It can be turned off and on at will.

    With the public questioning whether antifa is responsible for burning hundreds of thousands of acres throughout the West, it was time to slow things down.

    If those in charge feel it will be beneficial to ramp things up again, it will ramp up. If not, it won’t.

  115. @Dave Pinsen
    Related.

    https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1306282743286898693?s=21

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @ben tillman

    I hope he said the same thing to Durham about the bureaucrats and media members who conspired to nullify the 2016 election.

  116. @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    She is listed as being of Jewish heritage. https://myhowbook.com/biography/melissa-francis-biography
    I know several people whose parents converted to Christianity, or have one parent who was a non-practicing Jew and they still have a strong ethnic bond.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Arthur Biggs

    Her maternal-side grandmother was born Jewish. Her maternal grandfather was Italian / German; her paternal grandmother, Italian; her paternal grandfather, Dalmatian. Her maternal grandparents were married in 1930 and her Russian-born great-grandparents had died by 1933. Her maternal-side uncle, born in 1940, was buried in a Catholic cemetery in Mahwah, NJ.

  117. @Chrisnonymous
    @Dave Pinsen

    It's kind of unfortunate, but the rioting seems to have dropped off. Bad air quality keeping people off the streets? Barr's proactivity? Antifa finally realizing their bad optics?

    With people's short memories, if the rioting doesn't continue until Nov 3, nobody will think about it in the voting booth and it won't give Trump an election bump he needs...

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @Almost Missouri, @ben tillman

    Kyle Rittenhouse and Judge Roth in Lancaster may have caught their attention.

  118. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    Being called "puritanical" by Transnonymous-- that's richer than Soros himself.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Trannies are obsessed with sharing their sex fetish with the world, they aren’t pretending to be normal people.

  119. @Alden
    @Lurker

    Hungary was an ally of Germany in WW2. German troops didn’t occupy Hungary till 1943.
    Soros was 9 when the war began and 14 when it ended, not much help to anyone for anything.

    And who cares what he did between 9 and 14 in another country? What matters is what he’s been doing to destroy America for the last 30 years.

    He and his sons and employees should be in some super max prison for life.

    Replies: @gcochran, @Hibernian

    He has openly stated that it does not bother him at all that at 14 he had a small part in the confiscation of Jewish property. Not “Look, I was 14 and I was under duress,” but a shrug of the shoulders. It gives some insight into his mindset and activities as an adult in free societies.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Hibernian

    He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn't make him a Nazi. He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything.

    I'm not a big Soros fan, nor a fan of Jews who collaborated with the Nazis either, but there is zero evidence that Soros was a Fascist collaborator. This is just an attempt to slander a man. Even if he had participated, I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress, whether or not he defends himself on that basis.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate George Soros but his behavior as a Jewish teenage boy in hiding in Nazi occupied Budapest, where hundreds of thousands of Jews were deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only a few short months in the summer of 1944 (when the war was already clearly lost for the Nazis anyway) and where tens of thousands were shot right there in Budapest by the Hungarian Arrow Cross fascists and their bodies thrown into the Danube without any need of help from the Nazis, is not one of them. None of us can imagine what is what like to live at that time when your very identity was a death sentence, what the level of blind fear must have been, especially for a teenage boy.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Johann Ricke, @HFR, @Art Deco

  120. @MEH 0910
    @Muggles



    “Fox hos”
     
    From the Tweet above.

    Did Mr. Baragona drop a “t” or is he just being oh, so nasty and clever?
     
    Honest mistake:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306283427847712768

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Muggles, @Neoconned, @Achmed E. Newman, @Ragno

    Somebody should really note that Baragona wasn’t doing an antiSoros gotcha on Fox News. He was doing a We Run You victory dance.

    From his article at The Daily Beast:

    Things got extremely awkward on Fox News panel show Outnumbered on Wednesday after former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich tied billionaire financier George Soros—often the focus of anti-Semitic tropes—to violence in cities, prompting the show’s co-hosts to directly confront him on why he was invoking the liberal philanthropist.

    Fox has had issues over the years with a number of its guests and hosts peddling anti-Semitic tropes about the billionaire investor. The network banned Judicial Watch’s Chris Farrell in late 2018 after he baselessly claimed on Lou Dobbs’ program that migrant caravans were funded by the “Soros-occupied State Department.” (Dobbs himself has a lengthy history of trafficking in Soros-related conspiracies.) Fox News also apologized after Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) falsely accused Soros of collaborating with the Nazis during World War II.

    The network came under fire last year when frequent Fox guest and Trump ally Joe diGenova accused Soros of controlling “very large parts” of the State Department during an appearance on Dobbs’ show, echoing Farrell’s remarks. Several Jewish organizations demanded the network ban diGenova and issue a public apology.

    The password is……(((anti-Semitic tropes))).

    You only think this is your country, white man; it’s theirs. Learn that, so we don’t have to publicly break you.

    (long uncomfortable pause)

    O-kay! Moving on………Jemima?

  121. @Abolish_public_education
    Lawyer-dominated legislatures ensure that DAs are always sucky lawyers.

    Why should anyone care who wins?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Richie Daley was an obvious political hack as States’s Attorney before he became Mayor. He didn’t join in an effort to open the jail doors.

  122. @Anon
    Leaving Soros aside for the moment, a certain amount of what's going on is liberals engaged in 'disaster' budgeting with a ton of ideological window dressing intended to disguise it.

    Cities don't have the money to pay for imprisoning people, so they've decided to stop jailing criminals for anything that isn't really serious, and have chosen to just turn them loose. They don't have the courage to tell the public that they're just going to have to put up with a high crime rate from now on. What they've done to sell this idea to the public is label it Social Justice. The mayors and city councils are hoping the public is dumb enough they won't catch on. This is why bail has been done away with in some places. Even if all you're doing is sitting in a cell waiting for trial, the city still has to feed and house you, and you're a financial burden. Getting rid of bail means the city doesn't have to pay for you.

    As for cops, the cities want to fire them all, break the police unions, and rehire a police force at half (or even lower) of the salary, and offer no pension or perks at all. This is the whole reason behind the defund the police force movement.

    If you've been paying attention to the riots, you'll notice that in places like Portland, there have been an awful lot of teachers joining the violence. Ultimately, the riots are a tale of two unions fighting each other. The teachers union is determined to preserve their own pension by destroying the police union's pension. The teachers are hoping to gobble up the 'defunded' police money to use for their own salaries and pensions.

    The teachers are too stupid to understand that they're next on the chopping block after cops. The cities still don't have enough money to pay teachers at the current rates even after destroying the police force and freeing all the criminals they can. Eventually, the teachers will all be fired, and be replaced by those working for half the salary with no pension.

    As for Soros, he's an ideological fanatic, but the only reason big liberal Democratic cities are taking his money and advice is because their budget troubles align with his agenda.

    You can bust the teachers' and police unions and still keep a city going. But you can't dump every violent criminal out of the street without the taxpayers fleeing for the lives. They will move out of the city, and then nothing will be left except for those on welfare. At that point, the funding problems will become impossible. The only thing left after that is to cut off the welfare payments, and thus force the parasites to starve or leave.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Rob, @Jack D

    In some cases, it’s explicit. The new Leftist DA in Philadelphia requires the assistant DA’s who are conducting the trials to announce to the court how much it costs the taxpayers to keep someone locked up for a year so that they won’t give out a long sentence.

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/philadelphia-prosecutors-must-include-cost-of-prison-time-during-sentencing/175626/

    I would say its money well spent, at least compared to most of what the government wastes its money on – e.g overly generous pensions that are far higher that what prevails in the private sector.

  123. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Neoconned

    In my area, a lot of small businesses have shut down, but there are also some labor shortages. Those businesses that are seeing sales improve are having trouble hiring because of work-stress. Some of them are so busy that potential new employees don't want to face the craziness of working there.

    Since 95% of all small businesses will shut down at some point, many that closed were already marginal earners at best, so it left the stronger businesses even more strong than before.

    Some of the labor shortage is artificial, since the government delayed evictions and is still passing out unemployment money.

    Replies: @anon

    Well maybe they should just give their business over to blm to get more people in. See you destroy something, then someone else buys it or just takes over and people will go there.

    I guess you could do that as a sort of racket to move more of your own people into businesses that would be owned by someone else, in the case of food stores it would be like having a captive supply of customers.

    I guess too you could lower the value of the area then do your own gentrification with your own people buying up the property. I was wondering if they weren’t trying to do that with sports teams. Eventually the white owners will sell for cheap to maybe black owners.

    But I’m not privy to insider information on what groups like them are trying to do.

  124. @Anonymous
    The most most protest on saying Soros’ name came from Melissa Francis, a child actress (Cassandra Cooper Ingalls on Little House on the Prairie) turned TV financial news host with a Harvard econ degree. I always thought she (((was ))) but I can’t find anything to substantiate that.

    Btw, in this clip from 2017 all three of those Fox News women are also present and Francis starts crying over the issue of race:

    https://twitter.com/johnnydollar01/status/897853710302425088?s=20

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Dieter Kief, @S

    Btw, in this clip from 2017 all three of those Fox News women are also present and Francis starts crying over the issue of race:

    As with so many things it’s revealing to follow the money trail; it’s the same with race. [If Francis were to grasp that she’d likely not be crying over ‘the issue of race’.]

    Below is an excerpt and link to a Spring 1874 editorial of the Pall Mall Gazette of London, which specifically identifies ‘race’ as the primary impediment to the scheme of importing by diktat tens of millions of Chinese wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap labor’) into the United States, Australia, and Canada, a situation the editorial decries and laments.

    As for the money aspect, we do have some idea of just how much more profitable wage slavery (‘cheap labor’) is over chattel slavery, chattel slavery and its trade being the business the direct political and spiritual forebears of today’s self declared ‘progressives’ were into before discovering the wonders of wage slavery.

    In his December, 1863, letter from London, the financial representative of the Lincoln administration there, Robert Walker, effectively calculated that wage slavery (cheap labor) was four times more productive, efficient, and profitable, than chattel slavery , when he compared wage slave dependent Massachusetts with chattel slave dependent South Carolina. [See the bottom link below and the upper left column to pg 258 of the March 4, 1864 edition of the Continental Monthly.]

    If the powers that be were prepared to see 600,000 die to get at these profits in the US Civil War via forcing the South to adopt the North’s so called ‘cheap labor’/’mass immigration’ system, ie ‘wage slavery’, is there any reason to think they’d balk at the genocide of entire races, and hence the development of the modern ‘anti-race’ campaign known euphamistically as ‘anti-racism’?

    Pall Mall Gazette (Spring, 1874) – ‘Chinamen Out of China’

    “A dread of what might happen if capitalists could command and control these vast hordes of workmen as against men of their own race, has made the labouring class, at any rate, blind to their good qualities.”

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.55223460&view=1up&seq=136&skin=mobile

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081669800&view=1up&seq=266

  125. @Hibernian
    @Alden

    He has openly stated that it does not bother him at all that at 14 he had a small part in the confiscation of Jewish property. Not "Look, I was 14 and I was under duress," but a shrug of the shoulders. It gives some insight into his mindset and activities as an adult in free societies.

    Replies: @Jack D

    He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn’t make him a Nazi. He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything.

    I’m not a big Soros fan, nor a fan of Jews who collaborated with the Nazis either, but there is zero evidence that Soros was a Fascist collaborator. This is just an attempt to slander a man. Even if he had participated, I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress, whether or not he defends himself on that basis.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate George Soros but his behavior as a Jewish teenage boy in hiding in Nazi occupied Budapest, where hundreds of thousands of Jews were deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only a few short months in the summer of 1944 (when the war was already clearly lost for the Nazis anyway) and where tens of thousands were shot right there in Budapest by the Hungarian Arrow Cross fascists and their bodies thrown into the Danube without any need of help from the Nazis, is not one of them. None of us can imagine what is what like to live at that time when your very identity was a death sentence, what the level of blind fear must have been, especially for a teenage boy.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Jack D


    I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress
     
    How do you feel about teenage gentiles conscripted into the Wehrmacht? That perhaps ended up a guard at a camp?

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn’t make him a Nazi. He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything.
     
    And I can somewhat understand why he said those were the happiest days of his life. It's the equivalent of escaping an assassin's bullet, again and again, for several years. Like every Jew in hiding from the Nazis, every day was a gift. You're supposed to say that you have a strong case of survivor's guilt, but not every man's an introvert.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @HFR
    @Jack D

    I agree with what you wrote about 14-year-old Soros's behaviour. The interviewer's question "Do you feel guilty?" already contains the hoped-for answer as well as an accusation. Had he asked "Looking back on your experience then, what are your thoughts today?" the interviewer might have gotten a very different response. Adults were facing terrible choices in Budapest in 1944; imagine what it was like to be 14 and terrified.

    , @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything.

    His father was employed in seizing Jewish property and he acted as his father's assistant in that activity.

    Replies: @HFR

  126. @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    There are plenty of Jewish girls named Melissa. Non-Orthodox American Jews pick the same names for their kids as other Goodwhites, with the exception of names that have explicit Christian connotations (e.g. Christopher) and sometimes they even pick those because they think that they sound good and because they don’t know about or care about the Christian origin of the name.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    I remember seeing, from the windows of the Howard street "L," in the late '70s, a billboard saying, "Christopher Cohen, sus amigo en la Alcaldia." (Christopher Cohen, your friend in City Hall.) He was an alderman, and I believe later became a sub-cabinet official at HUD or HHS, probably under Clinton, or maybe in the last days of the Carter Administration.

  127. @ben tillman
    @TWS

    What gets me is that he's continually referred to as a philanthropist. Does anyone actually know what that word means?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    The host of NPR’s “On the Media” once described George Soros as “the billionaire with a heart of gold.” You know, like Auric Goldfinger.

  128. Obviously law and order will stop and civilization will break down if prosecutors don’t throw the book and a life sentence at someone caught with a few bongs in his pocket.

  129. @Dnought
    @Arthur Biggs

    Melissa Francis is Catholic not Jewish.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/june/melissa-francis-dishes-about-faith-family-fox-news-and-lessons-from-the-prairie

    Never once met or heard of a Jewish girl named "Melissa".

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @kaganovitch, @Reg Cæsar, @ben tillman, @Arthur Biggs, @Jack D, @Harry Baldwin

    Never heard of Joan Rivers’ talentless daughter?

    Melissa Warburg Rosenberg, better known as Melissa Rivers, is an American actress and television host. She is the only child of comedian Joan Rivers and producer Edgar Rosenberg.

  130. @Jack D
    @Hibernian

    He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn't make him a Nazi. He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything.

    I'm not a big Soros fan, nor a fan of Jews who collaborated with the Nazis either, but there is zero evidence that Soros was a Fascist collaborator. This is just an attempt to slander a man. Even if he had participated, I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress, whether or not he defends himself on that basis.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate George Soros but his behavior as a Jewish teenage boy in hiding in Nazi occupied Budapest, where hundreds of thousands of Jews were deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only a few short months in the summer of 1944 (when the war was already clearly lost for the Nazis anyway) and where tens of thousands were shot right there in Budapest by the Hungarian Arrow Cross fascists and their bodies thrown into the Danube without any need of help from the Nazis, is not one of them. None of us can imagine what is what like to live at that time when your very identity was a death sentence, what the level of blind fear must have been, especially for a teenage boy.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Johann Ricke, @HFR, @Art Deco

    I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress

    How do you feel about teenage gentiles conscripted into the Wehrmacht? That perhaps ended up a guard at a camp?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BenKenobi

    I don't think that they had 14 year old camp guards. At least my father didn't mention any. He said that toward the end of the war, the guards tended toward the older and war wounded.

    There were some guards who were just doing their jobs and some who enjoyed inflicting cruelty. At the end of the war, Wicker, the SS man who had just led my father's camp on a death march full of legendary cruelty (locking prisoners into a barn and setting it on fire, shooting the stragglers, etc.), was killed by the inmates of Dachau using a rifle provided by an American PFC who had just liberated the camp and his body thrown onto the pile of dead Jews. (His officers wanted to court martial the PFC but Patton in his wisdom threw the file into the trash. The PFC lived a long and happy life after the war). Walling, the camp commander, who sometimes showed human compassion, received 20 years hard labor, later commuted to 10. This strikes me as about right.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Dieter Kief, @Ozymandias

  131. The activity of the Open Sores Foundation in our epoch seems like it far more likely fits someone who was born in 1985 than it fits someone who was born in 1930. This is why I think it’s George’s (b. 1930) money, but at the direction of his younger son Alexander (b. 1985).

  132. Fox News is compromised.
    Outnumbered is an opinion talk show.
    Since when does an invited guest get censored for discusding his opinion.

    This is scay stuff America

    And it happend live on Fox News

    Dump Fox News now

  133. Wow, very nice blog you have here!

    I landed on this site from a link on top of revolver.news, the aggregator recommended by the president of the United States.

  134. @Charon
    Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency chief sexually harassed staffers for 7 years, IG finds


    The U.S. MSM are playing this as a 'military sexual harassment' story, which it is, kind of, but I notice that the U.S. outlets fail to show the guy's pic. Daily Mail does though. Does 7 years mean he was an Obama appointee?


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/16/top-pentagon-official-sexually-harassed-women-seven-years-ig-says/5819604002/


    https://mol.im/a/8741115 (Daily Mail)

    Replies: @res

    The official report says he started serving in that position in May 2011 (page 4).
    https://www.dodig.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Reading-Room/Article/2349469/report-of-investigation-mr-john-h-james-jr-senior-executive-service-missile-def/

    I was unable to find anything on how he was appointed or by whom. My guess would be he was not appointed directly by the president:
    https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/
    but it seems likely there would have been a strong diversity push in 2011.

    I’m also not sure calling him the “chief” is accurate. The article text describes him as “civilian head.” If you look at the MDA leadership page they only mention the Directors (military).
    https://www.mda.mil/about/leadership.html

    Here is how the report linked above describes things.

    The MDA is led by a director, normally a three-star general or flag officer, who is assisted by an executive director.

    As Executive Director, Mr. James was the senior civilian in the MDA and reported directly to the Director. He supervised all aspects of MDA’ s operations.

    Here is an org chart from early in his tenure.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20111201185310/http://www.mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/orgcht.pdf

    It shows the top box enclosing three positions: Director, Deputy Director, and Executive Director. D and DD are both military.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @res

    Some of these DoD organizations have a civilian head and a military XO. The one I worked for had an SES head and an admiral as number two.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  135. @Anonymous
    @Anon

    JESUS!!!!Are America's cities that financially bankrupt?

    Replies: @Zim, @Jim Don Bob

    Only Democrat run ones. FACT

  136. @Roderick Spode
    @Muggles

    Typo or no, he’s not wrong.

    Replies: @Magic Dirt Resident

    Michael Savage calls them the chorus line of strippers. Btw, nice name Lord Sidcup

    • Thanks: Roderick Spode
  137. Outnumered host Harris Falkner just vaguely addressed what occurred above. She made it clear she was not part of the censoring of Newt Gingrich.

    She did not mention Soros name, she danced around it…but she is clearly upset what happened and clearly the audience is not happy…censorship is exactly what Soros DEMANDS.

    FOX NEWS…OANN IS SITTING THERE WAITING TO REPLACE YOU…KEEP PIZZING OFF YOUR TALENT…AND THEY WILL LEAVE, ALONG WITH YOUR VIEWERS.

    IM ALREADY DONE…YOU ARE THE DRUDGE REPORT OF TELEVISION….WE LEFT DRUDGE WE WILL LEAVE YOU

  138. @Arthur Biggs
    The three women all have very strong connections to the Jewish community (Francis is Jewish, Harf is probably Jewish (had minor in Jewish studies in college) and Faulkner is married to a Jew) and are probably petrified of being shunned at NYC/DC dinner parties and losing their jobs if they're less than fanatical in attacking even the slightest perception of antisemitism.

    Implying antisemitism when defending George Soros is just like yelling racist when defending Barack Obama. It's a way to deflect criticism and stifle the argument without having to refute the premise.

    Replies: @Dnought, @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

    Harf is probably Jewish

    She isn’t. Her father grew up in Altoona, Pennsylvania (and attended a Catholic high school) and her mother’s from around St. Louis. Her family goes way back in southern Illinois and western Pennsylvania. Some mid-19th century German immigration, with the rest already present in the US prior to 1940.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Art Deco

    Prior to 1840.

  139. @Arthur Biggs
    The three women all have very strong connections to the Jewish community (Francis is Jewish, Harf is probably Jewish (had minor in Jewish studies in college) and Faulkner is married to a Jew) and are probably petrified of being shunned at NYC/DC dinner parties and losing their jobs if they're less than fanatical in attacking even the slightest perception of antisemitism.

    Implying antisemitism when defending George Soros is just like yelling racist when defending Barack Obama. It's a way to deflect criticism and stifle the argument without having to refute the premise.

    Replies: @Dnought, @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

    The anti-Semites of unz continue their unbroken record of falsely tagging people they don’t like as Jewish. The actual count is zero out of these three women are Jewish. Usually if an unz anti-Semite tags someone as Jewish who is already not widely known to be Jewish, that decreases the odds that that he or she actually are more than random guessing.

    If you want to know why most mainstream figures try to give wide berth to anything touching on anti-Semitism, it’s because of guys like Arthur.

  140. @Jack D
    @Hibernian

    He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn't make him a Nazi. He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything.

    I'm not a big Soros fan, nor a fan of Jews who collaborated with the Nazis either, but there is zero evidence that Soros was a Fascist collaborator. This is just an attempt to slander a man. Even if he had participated, I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress, whether or not he defends himself on that basis.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate George Soros but his behavior as a Jewish teenage boy in hiding in Nazi occupied Budapest, where hundreds of thousands of Jews were deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only a few short months in the summer of 1944 (when the war was already clearly lost for the Nazis anyway) and where tens of thousands were shot right there in Budapest by the Hungarian Arrow Cross fascists and their bodies thrown into the Danube without any need of help from the Nazis, is not one of them. None of us can imagine what is what like to live at that time when your very identity was a death sentence, what the level of blind fear must have been, especially for a teenage boy.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Johann Ricke, @HFR, @Art Deco

    He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn’t make him a Nazi. He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything.

    And I can somewhat understand why he said those were the happiest days of his life. It’s the equivalent of escaping an assassin’s bullet, again and again, for several years. Like every Jew in hiding from the Nazis, every day was a gift. You’re supposed to say that you have a strong case of survivor’s guilt, but not every man’s an introvert.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Johann Ricke

    Churchill said, "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at with no result.”

  141. @Arthur Biggs
    The three women all have very strong connections to the Jewish community (Francis is Jewish, Harf is probably Jewish (had minor in Jewish studies in college) and Faulkner is married to a Jew) and are probably petrified of being shunned at NYC/DC dinner parties and losing their jobs if they're less than fanatical in attacking even the slightest perception of antisemitism.

    Implying antisemitism when defending George Soros is just like yelling racist when defending Barack Obama. It's a way to deflect criticism and stifle the argument without having to refute the premise.

    Replies: @Dnought, @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

    Harf is probably Jewish

    With a face like this?

    Your Jewdar needs to be re-calibrated.

  142. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @danand, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @S

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname.

    Not sure if this is tongue-in-cheek. Soros’ last name at birth was Schwartz. It is not clear that the adopted last name “Soros” is based on Esperanto. Soros’ father Theodor Schwartz was certainly an Esperanto activist, but he may simply have settled on Soros because it is a neat palindrome.

    Many upper-middle class Jewish families in the former Austro-Hungarian empire proudly spoke German at home. IF that was indeed the case in the Schwartz/Soros family, it is perhaps understandable that young George might have chosen to withhold this detail of his background as he made his way in post-war Britain and later in the U.S.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    Many upper-middle class Jewish families in the former Austro-Hungarian empire proudly spoke German at home. IF that was indeed the case in the Schwartz/Soros family, it is perhaps understandable that young George might have chosen to withhold this detail of his background as he made his way in post-war Britain and later in the U.S.
     
    Maybe in Prague but in Budapest the Jews were patriotic and spoke Hungarian. A lot of them, even the Orthodox, spoke Hungarian rather than Yiddish (let alone German) even at home. The Hungarian Jews were so patriotic that they would give their kids super Hungarian names like Attila.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_Petschauer


    Later on, none of it helped. The Hungarian nationalists didn't think that Jews were Hungarian no matter what they did or said, not even converting to Christianity. The taint is in the blood.

    Even if they spoke German - so what? Henry Kissinger spoke German too - did not affect his career. Nor von Braun despite being an actual member of the SS.

    Replies: @Jim Brewer, @Redman

  143. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Sandy Berger's Socks

    I mashed [Agree], but I'm not sure I agree with the last sentence exactly. I'd put it this way. If Americans had been taking politics as seriously as college football for the last 50 years, I believe we'd not have to worry about any evil rich bastard like this "buying" an election. After all, people still vote, right?

    One buys an election when the people are stupid enough to go by the Lyin' Press ads and the billboards with the handsome guy with the nice hair. Fuck these voters, as they've brought us all down with them.

    Replies: @Alice in Wonderland

    Fuck these voters, as they’ve brought us all down with them.

    “these voters” are women.

    fortunately Trump does pretty well with women… so we’ll see.

  144. @Jack D
    @Hibernian

    He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn't make him a Nazi. He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything.

    I'm not a big Soros fan, nor a fan of Jews who collaborated with the Nazis either, but there is zero evidence that Soros was a Fascist collaborator. This is just an attempt to slander a man. Even if he had participated, I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress, whether or not he defends himself on that basis.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate George Soros but his behavior as a Jewish teenage boy in hiding in Nazi occupied Budapest, where hundreds of thousands of Jews were deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only a few short months in the summer of 1944 (when the war was already clearly lost for the Nazis anyway) and where tens of thousands were shot right there in Budapest by the Hungarian Arrow Cross fascists and their bodies thrown into the Danube without any need of help from the Nazis, is not one of them. None of us can imagine what is what like to live at that time when your very identity was a death sentence, what the level of blind fear must have been, especially for a teenage boy.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Johann Ricke, @HFR, @Art Deco

    I agree with what you wrote about 14-year-old Soros’s behaviour. The interviewer’s question “Do you feel guilty?” already contains the hoped-for answer as well as an accusation. Had he asked “Looking back on your experience then, what are your thoughts today?” the interviewer might have gotten a very different response. Adults were facing terrible choices in Budapest in 1944; imagine what it was like to be 14 and terrified.

  145. @Prof. Woland
    Good. Now we know what bothers them.

    I have a feeling that Harris Faulkner had the producer shouting in her inductive ear piece to get off the subject quickly. Marie Harf was already trained and housebroken.

    Replies: @anon, @ben tillman, @Richard B

    Marie Harf was already trained and housebroken.

    LOL!

    I already used the AGREE option.

    Humor aside. It’s actually true. Which is why we need the humor.

  146. @Jack D
    @Hibernian

    He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn't make him a Nazi. He doesn't feel guilty because he didn't do anything.

    I'm not a big Soros fan, nor a fan of Jews who collaborated with the Nazis either, but there is zero evidence that Soros was a Fascist collaborator. This is just an attempt to slander a man. Even if he had participated, I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress, whether or not he defends himself on that basis.

    There are plenty of reasons to hate George Soros but his behavior as a Jewish teenage boy in hiding in Nazi occupied Budapest, where hundreds of thousands of Jews were deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only a few short months in the summer of 1944 (when the war was already clearly lost for the Nazis anyway) and where tens of thousands were shot right there in Budapest by the Hungarian Arrow Cross fascists and their bodies thrown into the Danube without any need of help from the Nazis, is not one of them. None of us can imagine what is what like to live at that time when your very identity was a death sentence, what the level of blind fear must have been, especially for a teenage boy.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Johann Ricke, @HFR, @Art Deco

    He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything.

    His father was employed in seizing Jewish property and he acted as his father’s assistant in that activity.

    • Replies: @HFR
    @Art Deco

    No, Soros's father was not "employed in seizing Jewish property." That was the job of the man that his father bribed to pretend that he was George's godfather. Nor did Soros act as "assistant in that activity." The pretend godfather simply had George accompany him to a job.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  147. @Art Deco
    @Arthur Biggs

    Harf is probably Jewish

    She isn't. Her father grew up in Altoona, Pennsylvania (and attended a Catholic high school) and her mother's from around St. Louis. Her family goes way back in southern Illinois and western Pennsylvania. Some mid-19th century German immigration, with the rest already present in the US prior to 1940.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Prior to 1840.

  148. @BenKenobi
    @Jack D


    I am not going to judge a man 75 years later for what he did as a teenage boy under duress
     
    How do you feel about teenage gentiles conscripted into the Wehrmacht? That perhaps ended up a guard at a camp?

    Replies: @Jack D

    I don’t think that they had 14 year old camp guards. At least my father didn’t mention any. He said that toward the end of the war, the guards tended toward the older and war wounded.

    There were some guards who were just doing their jobs and some who enjoyed inflicting cruelty. At the end of the war, Wicker, the SS man who had just led my father’s camp on a death march full of legendary cruelty (locking prisoners into a barn and setting it on fire, shooting the stragglers, etc.), was killed by the inmates of Dachau using a rifle provided by an American PFC who had just liberated the camp and his body thrown onto the pile of dead Jews. (His officers wanted to court martial the PFC but Patton in his wisdom threw the file into the trash. The PFC lived a long and happy life after the war). Walling, the camp commander, who sometimes showed human compassion, received 20 years hard labor, later commuted to 10. This strikes me as about right.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Jack D

    • Sigh: BenKenobi

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Jack D


    This strikes me as about right.
     
    Yep.
    , @Ozymandias
    @Jack D


    I don’t think that they had 14 year old camp guards
     
    Way to weasel. The issue at question was whether 14 year old Germans drafted into the Wehrmacht against their will (and there were plenty of them) were deserving of the understanding that you so readily extend to the little Schwartz?
  149. @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything. He conscience is clear. Soros was in hiding, pretending to be Christian. Apparently the man with whom the teenage Soros was hiding out did once bring him along when he went to take inventory of a Jewish person’s house, but Soros was not personally involved. Merely being present doesn’t make him a Nazi. He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything.
     
    And I can somewhat understand why he said those were the happiest days of his life. It's the equivalent of escaping an assassin's bullet, again and again, for several years. Like every Jew in hiding from the Nazis, every day was a gift. You're supposed to say that you have a strong case of survivor's guilt, but not every man's an introvert.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Churchill said, “There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at with no result.”

  150. @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @danand, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @S

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    Esperanto is the metric system of languages. Any connection to natural human processes is coincidental and deceptive.

    It’s just harder for a government to force a language on its people than a measurement tool.

  151. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname.
     
    Not sure if this is tongue-in-cheek. Soros' last name at birth was Schwartz. It is not clear that the adopted last name "Soros" is based on Esperanto. Soros' father Theodor Schwartz was certainly an Esperanto activist, but he may simply have settled on Soros because it is a neat palindrome.

    Many upper-middle class Jewish families in the former Austro-Hungarian empire proudly spoke German at home. IF that was indeed the case in the Schwartz/Soros family, it is perhaps understandable that young George might have chosen to withhold this detail of his background as he made his way in post-war Britain and later in the U.S.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Many upper-middle class Jewish families in the former Austro-Hungarian empire proudly spoke German at home. IF that was indeed the case in the Schwartz/Soros family, it is perhaps understandable that young George might have chosen to withhold this detail of his background as he made his way in post-war Britain and later in the U.S.

    Maybe in Prague but in Budapest the Jews were patriotic and spoke Hungarian. A lot of them, even the Orthodox, spoke Hungarian rather than Yiddish (let alone German) even at home. The Hungarian Jews were so patriotic that they would give their kids super Hungarian names like Attila.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_Petschauer

    Later on, none of it helped. The Hungarian nationalists didn’t think that Jews were Hungarian no matter what they did or said, not even converting to Christianity. The taint is in the blood.

    Even if they spoke German – so what? Henry Kissinger spoke German too – did not affect his career. Nor von Braun despite being an actual member of the SS.

    • Replies: @Jim Brewer
    @Jack D

    But Hungary also saw the most brutal persecutions of Hungarian Christians by the Jewish-led Communist government under Rakosi (Rosenfeld.) (1949-1956.)

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Redman
    @Jack D

    A lot of Germans did suffer from discrimination after WWII from my understanding. It probably depended on the field you were in and who you knew.

    Top level folks taken into the fold of the US military and intelligence services, like Kissinger and von Braun, were most likely fairly insulated. Soros was just a young student of economics and philosophy in London after the War. Not exactly a big asset to the US or British government.

  152. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    He doesn’t feel guilty because he didn’t do anything.

    His father was employed in seizing Jewish property and he acted as his father's assistant in that activity.

    Replies: @HFR

    No, Soros’s father was not “employed in seizing Jewish property.” That was the job of the man that his father bribed to pretend that he was George’s godfather. Nor did Soros act as “assistant in that activity.” The pretend godfather simply had George accompany him to a job.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @HFR

    Soros was a child during WWII (14 on VE Day), and I'm not going to get all huffy about what I would NOT have done as a child to survive the Holocaust.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  153. @Richard S
    @Hibernian

    The anglicisation of Irish names has always been interesting to me; how Irish phonology and soundforms are reflected in a quite different language.

    Ó Muimhneacháin in 17th century Ireland becomes Minihane in 18th century English and Moynihan in 19th century America. Mac Ainmhire became Convery or Hanbury, depending on the aural sensitivity of some literate clerk 150 years ago.

    Diphthong sounds in Ireland don’t just change over time, they literally vary from to tayne (Belfast) to tao-n (Dublin).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The [A]nglicisation of Irish names has always been interesting to me; how Irish phonology and soundforms are reflected in a quite different language.

    The Scottish MacLeod became “Machlejd” in Poland. Gavin MacLeod and Tadeusz Wladyslaw “Ted Knight” Konopka might have been related!


    MacLeod recalls how he brought longtime friend and Mary Tyler Moore co-star Ted Knight to Christ just before he died.

    Poles apart: Girl’s journey from war-torn Warsaw to Skye

    Diphthong sounds in Ireland don’t just change over time, they literally vary from to tayne (Belfast) to tao-n (Dublin).

    Anglophones mangle classical Greek (and Latin) diphthongs, but I understand modern Greeks do the same, and in the same fashion.

  154. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Lagertha


    Esperanto was just a bullshit language to seem cool and sexy to dumb Americans and Europeans.
     
    The problem with Esperanto is that it claims to be a universal human language, but its provincial, Central/Eastern European roots are far too visible.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The problem with Esperanto is that it claims to be a universal human language, but its provincial, Central/Eastern European roots are far too visible.

    There is always Toki Pona.

  155. @HFR
    @Art Deco

    No, Soros's father was not "employed in seizing Jewish property." That was the job of the man that his father bribed to pretend that he was George's godfather. Nor did Soros act as "assistant in that activity." The pretend godfather simply had George accompany him to a job.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Soros was a child during WWII (14 on VE Day), and I’m not going to get all huffy about what I would NOT have done as a child to survive the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Steve Sailer


    Soros was a child during WWII (14 on VE Day), and I’m not going to get all huffy about what I would NOT have done as a child to survive the Holocaust.
     
    Armchair guerrillas/martyrs are a dime a dozen. The real question is what people would *not* have done as adults to survive the war, let alone a continental-scale hunt specifically for people fitting their profile. As Vichy France and any number of occupation governments were to show, precious little. James Clavell's King Rat and JG Ballard's Empire of the Sun, both semi-autographical novels, indicate that in extremis, the niceties of polite society fall by the wayside, giving way to a war of all against all in the struggle for personal survival.
  156. @Anonymous
    @Anon

    JESUS!!!!Are America's cities that financially bankrupt?

    Replies: @Zim, @Jim Don Bob

    JESUS!!!!Are America’s cities that financially bankrupt?

    Not just cities but entire states such as Illinois and California. Check out the details at pensiontsunami.com. Of course all will be well when the Harris administration cranks up the Fed’s printing presses for another 3 or 4 $trillion.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  157. @res
    @Charon

    The official report says he started serving in that position in May 2011 (page 4).
    https://www.dodig.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Reading-Room/Article/2349469/report-of-investigation-mr-john-h-james-jr-senior-executive-service-missile-def/

    I was unable to find anything on how he was appointed or by whom. My guess would be he was not appointed directly by the president:
    https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/
    but it seems likely there would have been a strong diversity push in 2011.

    I'm also not sure calling him the "chief" is accurate. The article text describes him as "civilian head." If you look at the MDA leadership page they only mention the Directors (military).
    https://www.mda.mil/about/leadership.html

    Here is how the report linked above describes things.


    The MDA is led by a director, normally a three-star general or flag officer, who is assisted by an executive director.
    ...
    As Executive Director, Mr. James was the senior civilian in the MDA and reported directly to the Director. He supervised all aspects of MDA' s operations.
     
    Here is an org chart from early in his tenure.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20111201185310/http://www.mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/orgcht.pdf

    It shows the top box enclosing three positions: Director, Deputy Director, and Executive Director. D and DD are both military.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Some of these DoD organizations have a civilian head and a military XO. The one I worked for had an SES head and an admiral as number two.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jim Don Bob

    When I worked at the Rock Island Arsenal in the early '80s, it was the other way around, which didn't make sense. There was no need for military personnel there except for a few officers as liasions for the investigation of artillery cook offs, etc.

  158. @Jim Don Bob
    @res

    Some of these DoD organizations have a civilian head and a military XO. The one I worked for had an SES head and an admiral as number two.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    When I worked at the Rock Island Arsenal in the early ’80s, it was the other way around, which didn’t make sense. There was no need for military personnel there except for a few officers as liasions for the investigation of artillery cook offs, etc.

  159. @Jack D
    @Dnought

    There are plenty of Jewish girls named Melissa. Non-Orthodox American Jews pick the same names for their kids as other Goodwhites, with the exception of names that have explicit Christian connotations (e.g. Christopher) and sometimes they even pick those because they think that they sound good and because they don't know about or care about the Christian origin of the name.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    I remember seeing, from the windows of the Howard street “L,” in the late ’70s, a billboard saying, “Christopher Cohen, sus amigo en la Alcaldia.” (Christopher Cohen, your friend in City Hall.) He was an alderman, and I believe later became a sub-cabinet official at HUD or HHS, probably under Clinton, or maybe in the last days of the Carter Administration.

  160. @Steve Sailer
    @HFR

    Soros was a child during WWII (14 on VE Day), and I'm not going to get all huffy about what I would NOT have done as a child to survive the Holocaust.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    Soros was a child during WWII (14 on VE Day), and I’m not going to get all huffy about what I would NOT have done as a child to survive the Holocaust.

    Armchair guerrillas/martyrs are a dime a dozen. The real question is what people would *not* have done as adults to survive the war, let alone a continental-scale hunt specifically for people fitting their profile. As Vichy France and any number of occupation governments were to show, precious little. James Clavell’s King Rat and JG Ballard’s Empire of the Sun, both semi-autographical novels, indicate that in extremis, the niceties of polite society fall by the wayside, giving way to a war of all against all in the struggle for personal survival.

  161. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @Lurker

    Wait, if these right wing operatives want to “distract from his Jewish identity,” then why do all his left wing enablers keep calling out antiSemitism? You can’t have it both ways.

    Yes he was 14. He didn’t personally benefit. He kept his head down. All understandable.

    The main point still stands. There’s nothing anti Semitic about criticizing this man. There’s nothing Jewish about this man either—what he attempts to do does not even fit the most liberal Reform Jewish vision of justice.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lurker

    Wait, if these right wing operatives want to “distract from his Jewish identity,”

    I never mentioned “right wing” operatives.

    It’s obviously a hasbara script, it is they who are determined to push this ‘nazi collaborator’ idea.

    There are dozens of them on Breitbart right now foaming at the mouth about it.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  162. @Arthur Biggs
    @Dnought

    She is listed as being of Jewish heritage. https://myhowbook.com/biography/melissa-francis-biography
    I know several people whose parents converted to Christianity, or have one parent who was a non-practicing Jew and they still have a strong ethnic bond.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Her maternal-side grandmother was born Jewish. Her maternal grandfather was Italian / German; her paternal grandmother, Italian; her paternal grandfather, Dalmatian. Her maternal grandparents were married in 1930 and her Russian-born great-grandparents had died by 1933. Her maternal-side uncle, born in 1940, was buried in a Catholic cemetery in Mahwah, NJ.

  163. @Jack D
    @BenKenobi

    I don't think that they had 14 year old camp guards. At least my father didn't mention any. He said that toward the end of the war, the guards tended toward the older and war wounded.

    There were some guards who were just doing their jobs and some who enjoyed inflicting cruelty. At the end of the war, Wicker, the SS man who had just led my father's camp on a death march full of legendary cruelty (locking prisoners into a barn and setting it on fire, shooting the stragglers, etc.), was killed by the inmates of Dachau using a rifle provided by an American PFC who had just liberated the camp and his body thrown onto the pile of dead Jews. (His officers wanted to court martial the PFC but Patton in his wisdom threw the file into the trash. The PFC lived a long and happy life after the war). Walling, the camp commander, who sometimes showed human compassion, received 20 years hard labor, later commuted to 10. This strikes me as about right.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Dieter Kief, @Ozymandias

    • Sigh: BenKenobi

  164. @Steve Sailer
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    Soros grew up in an Esperanto-speaking family with an Esperanto surname. But you never hear any good anti-Esperantic conspiracy theories about Soros.

    Replies: @Lagertha, @danand, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @S

    No conspiracy here, but, let’s not forget the world’s second feature length Esperanto film, the horror movie Incubus starring William Shatner. This was in 1966 just before Shatner started his Star Trek gig.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus_(1966_film)

  165. @Jack D
    @BenKenobi

    I don't think that they had 14 year old camp guards. At least my father didn't mention any. He said that toward the end of the war, the guards tended toward the older and war wounded.

    There were some guards who were just doing their jobs and some who enjoyed inflicting cruelty. At the end of the war, Wicker, the SS man who had just led my father's camp on a death march full of legendary cruelty (locking prisoners into a barn and setting it on fire, shooting the stragglers, etc.), was killed by the inmates of Dachau using a rifle provided by an American PFC who had just liberated the camp and his body thrown onto the pile of dead Jews. (His officers wanted to court martial the PFC but Patton in his wisdom threw the file into the trash. The PFC lived a long and happy life after the war). Walling, the camp commander, who sometimes showed human compassion, received 20 years hard labor, later commuted to 10. This strikes me as about right.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Dieter Kief, @Ozymandias

    This strikes me as about right.

    Yep.

  166. Soros a great man?? Unless you are one of his communist benefactors I don’t see how anyone could call Soros a “great man” & worthy adversary. He has sworn to destroy the country and has literally put his money where his mouth is. Soros bought politicians have done enormous harm to humanity and created anarchy by destroying law enforcement and the entire rule of law!! Great man indeed!!

    • Replies: @Redman
    @Norteno

    I'm also not quite getting what Steve means by calling Soros a "great man." He's been economically successful but has what I consider to be a fundamentally destructive philosophy. How exactly can this be considered great?

    One can appreciate that his motives may have some virtue in them (he's ultimately concerned about promoting peace), but the foundation of his "one world" philosophy is utopian garbage. It seeks to stamp out separate cultural and national identity for the unobtainable and objectively undesirable result: a 1984-like society inevitably controlled by a thin group of elites.

    Replies: @bartolo1

    , @Jim Brewer
    @Norteno

    Not just one country: he has tried to return eastern Europe to its Communist past by funding politicians, controlling media etc.

  167. @Jack D
    @BenKenobi

    I don't think that they had 14 year old camp guards. At least my father didn't mention any. He said that toward the end of the war, the guards tended toward the older and war wounded.

    There were some guards who were just doing their jobs and some who enjoyed inflicting cruelty. At the end of the war, Wicker, the SS man who had just led my father's camp on a death march full of legendary cruelty (locking prisoners into a barn and setting it on fire, shooting the stragglers, etc.), was killed by the inmates of Dachau using a rifle provided by an American PFC who had just liberated the camp and his body thrown onto the pile of dead Jews. (His officers wanted to court martial the PFC but Patton in his wisdom threw the file into the trash. The PFC lived a long and happy life after the war). Walling, the camp commander, who sometimes showed human compassion, received 20 years hard labor, later commuted to 10. This strikes me as about right.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Dieter Kief, @Ozymandias

    I don’t think that they had 14 year old camp guards

    Way to weasel. The issue at question was whether 14 year old Germans drafted into the Wehrmacht against their will (and there were plenty of them) were deserving of the understanding that you so readily extend to the little Schwartz?

  168. @Arthur Biggs
    The three women all have very strong connections to the Jewish community (Francis is Jewish, Harf is probably Jewish (had minor in Jewish studies in college) and Faulkner is married to a Jew) and are probably petrified of being shunned at NYC/DC dinner parties and losing their jobs if they're less than fanatical in attacking even the slightest perception of antisemitism.

    Implying antisemitism when defending George Soros is just like yelling racist when defending Barack Obama. It's a way to deflect criticism and stifle the argument without having to refute the premise.

    Replies: @Dnought, @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Johann Ricke, @Art Deco

    Faulkner is married to a Jew

    Her father in law was Jewish. Her mother in law is German / English grew up in St. Joseph, Mo and El Paso, Tx.

  169. @I, Libertine
    Did you see Outnumbered on Fox News today?

    https://twitter.com/LionelMedia/status/1306353065369403392?s=20

    Who was it who said you are ruled by those you are not allowed to criticize?

    Replies: @pilgrim007

    Voltaire

  170. On Fox, Tucker tore into Soros the other night, and not for the the first time.

    Suppose the critic is motivated by anti-Semitism. So what? If he gets the facts right and they are significant, that will be more important to most people.

  171. @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    Many upper-middle class Jewish families in the former Austro-Hungarian empire proudly spoke German at home. IF that was indeed the case in the Schwartz/Soros family, it is perhaps understandable that young George might have chosen to withhold this detail of his background as he made his way in post-war Britain and later in the U.S.
     
    Maybe in Prague but in Budapest the Jews were patriotic and spoke Hungarian. A lot of them, even the Orthodox, spoke Hungarian rather than Yiddish (let alone German) even at home. The Hungarian Jews were so patriotic that they would give their kids super Hungarian names like Attila.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_Petschauer


    Later on, none of it helped. The Hungarian nationalists didn't think that Jews were Hungarian no matter what they did or said, not even converting to Christianity. The taint is in the blood.

    Even if they spoke German - so what? Henry Kissinger spoke German too - did not affect his career. Nor von Braun despite being an actual member of the SS.

    Replies: @Jim Brewer, @Redman

    But Hungary also saw the most brutal persecutions of Hungarian Christians by the Jewish-led Communist government under Rakosi (Rosenfeld.) (1949-1956.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jim Brewer

    Rakosi repudiated not only his name original but he also repudiated all religion (including that of his birth) and described himself as an atheist and opponent of organised religion. So it's hard to say in what sense he was "Jewish" except in the way that the Arrow Cross understood it - we are back to "the taint is in the blood".

    The number of Hungarian Christians who died under Rakosi was in the thousands, compared to the hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews murdered by the Arrow Cross and their Nazi allies (and the only reason it wasn't millions like in Poland was that there weren't that many Jews to begin with). And some of those were Arrow Cross Fascists who deserved whatever justice they received for their crimes during the Nazi period. And at no time did Rakosi plan to kill every single last Hungarian who was Christian by birth, even though this was exactly what the Arrow Cross had planned for the Jews of Hungary.

    Stalinism was almost as bad as Fascism but one does not negate or justify the other.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Brewer

  172. @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    Many upper-middle class Jewish families in the former Austro-Hungarian empire proudly spoke German at home. IF that was indeed the case in the Schwartz/Soros family, it is perhaps understandable that young George might have chosen to withhold this detail of his background as he made his way in post-war Britain and later in the U.S.
     
    Maybe in Prague but in Budapest the Jews were patriotic and spoke Hungarian. A lot of them, even the Orthodox, spoke Hungarian rather than Yiddish (let alone German) even at home. The Hungarian Jews were so patriotic that they would give their kids super Hungarian names like Attila.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_Petschauer


    Later on, none of it helped. The Hungarian nationalists didn't think that Jews were Hungarian no matter what they did or said, not even converting to Christianity. The taint is in the blood.

    Even if they spoke German - so what? Henry Kissinger spoke German too - did not affect his career. Nor von Braun despite being an actual member of the SS.

    Replies: @Jim Brewer, @Redman

    A lot of Germans did suffer from discrimination after WWII from my understanding. It probably depended on the field you were in and who you knew.

    Top level folks taken into the fold of the US military and intelligence services, like Kissinger and von Braun, were most likely fairly insulated. Soros was just a young student of economics and philosophy in London after the War. Not exactly a big asset to the US or British government.

  173. @Norteno
    Soros a great man?? Unless you are one of his communist benefactors I don’t see how anyone could call Soros a “great man” & worthy adversary. He has sworn to destroy the country and has literally put his money where his mouth is. Soros bought politicians have done enormous harm to humanity and created anarchy by destroying law enforcement and the entire rule of law!! Great man indeed!!

    Replies: @Redman, @Jim Brewer

    I’m also not quite getting what Steve means by calling Soros a “great man.” He’s been economically successful but has what I consider to be a fundamentally destructive philosophy. How exactly can this be considered great?

    One can appreciate that his motives may have some virtue in them (he’s ultimately concerned about promoting peace), but the foundation of his “one world” philosophy is utopian garbage. It seeks to stamp out separate cultural and national identity for the unobtainable and objectively undesirable result: a 1984-like society inevitably controlled by a thin group of elites.

    • Replies: @bartolo1
    @Redman

    I am not pushing all my chips in on this. But pretty sure that was tongue planted firmly in cheek.

    "Must not offend the Mighty Eye of Soros". It is all knowing, all seeing.............the wonderful, wonderful Soros.

  174. @Jim Brewer
    @Jack D

    But Hungary also saw the most brutal persecutions of Hungarian Christians by the Jewish-led Communist government under Rakosi (Rosenfeld.) (1949-1956.)

    Replies: @Jack D

    Rakosi repudiated not only his name original but he also repudiated all religion (including that of his birth) and described himself as an atheist and opponent of organised religion. So it’s hard to say in what sense he was “Jewish” except in the way that the Arrow Cross understood it – we are back to “the taint is in the blood”.

    The number of Hungarian Christians who died under Rakosi was in the thousands, compared to the hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews murdered by the Arrow Cross and their Nazi allies (and the only reason it wasn’t millions like in Poland was that there weren’t that many Jews to begin with). And some of those were Arrow Cross Fascists who deserved whatever justice they received for their crimes during the Nazi period. And at no time did Rakosi plan to kill every single last Hungarian who was Christian by birth, even though this was exactly what the Arrow Cross had planned for the Jews of Hungary.

    Stalinism was almost as bad as Fascism but one does not negate or justify the other.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    There were about 800,000 Jews in Hungary in 1939, of whom about 70% perished. The Jewish population was over a period of 20-odd years subject to laws which aimed to inhibit their capacity to earn a living and the laws were made more disagreeable every half-dozen years or so. However, their physical persons were left alone. It wasn't until the Germans occupied Hungary in 1944 that mass deportations of Jews began. The Arrow Cross were in charge part of the time; the business was directed by the Germans. If I understand correctly, the vast bulk of the deaths derived from deportations, with little in the way of massacres in situ.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jim Brewer
    @Jack D

    As to your first point, most self-identified Jews view Jewishness as mainly lineage and culture. According to Pew Research, most Jews have no problem regarding an atheist as a Jew. Nearly all the Jews I have known were agnostic or atheist. It's not a "taint" but rather an ethnic solidarity. All the Communist revolutions in Europe were led by Jews and all practiced or intended the destruction of Christianity by brutal methods, perhaps seeing this as revenge for earlier Christian persecutions. (I don't see the existence of long-winded ideological rationales against 'religion' as defeating this claim.) Anti-Semitism in the 20th century was mostly political and cultural and had less to do with 'blood guilt' and the like.

    To be sure, in an age that approves of collective guilt and punishment and accepts pragmatic justifications of mass murder (as did Bolshevism and Fascism), many innocents will perish.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Hibernian

  175. @Jack D
    @Jim Brewer

    Rakosi repudiated not only his name original but he also repudiated all religion (including that of his birth) and described himself as an atheist and opponent of organised religion. So it's hard to say in what sense he was "Jewish" except in the way that the Arrow Cross understood it - we are back to "the taint is in the blood".

    The number of Hungarian Christians who died under Rakosi was in the thousands, compared to the hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews murdered by the Arrow Cross and their Nazi allies (and the only reason it wasn't millions like in Poland was that there weren't that many Jews to begin with). And some of those were Arrow Cross Fascists who deserved whatever justice they received for their crimes during the Nazi period. And at no time did Rakosi plan to kill every single last Hungarian who was Christian by birth, even though this was exactly what the Arrow Cross had planned for the Jews of Hungary.

    Stalinism was almost as bad as Fascism but one does not negate or justify the other.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Brewer

    There were about 800,000 Jews in Hungary in 1939, of whom about 70% perished. The Jewish population was over a period of 20-odd years subject to laws which aimed to inhibit their capacity to earn a living and the laws were made more disagreeable every half-dozen years or so. However, their physical persons were left alone. It wasn’t until the Germans occupied Hungary in 1944 that mass deportations of Jews began. The Arrow Cross were in charge part of the time; the business was directed by the Germans. If I understand correctly, the vast bulk of the deaths derived from deportations, with little in the way of massacres in situ.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    If I understand correctly, the vast bulk of the deaths derived from deportations, with little in the way of massacres in situ.
     
    The 20,000 Jews that the Arrow Cross killed and threw into the Danube pales compared to the 440,000 Jews that the Nazis deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only 7 short weeks in the summer of 1944. However, by any other standard, 20,000 murders is a LOT. I think it's fair to lump the Arrow Cross and the Nazis together and impute their crimes to each other - their goals were the same. It's just that the Germans were more organized and had the better infrastructure for genocide.
  176. @Redman
    @Norteno

    I'm also not quite getting what Steve means by calling Soros a "great man." He's been economically successful but has what I consider to be a fundamentally destructive philosophy. How exactly can this be considered great?

    One can appreciate that his motives may have some virtue in them (he's ultimately concerned about promoting peace), but the foundation of his "one world" philosophy is utopian garbage. It seeks to stamp out separate cultural and national identity for the unobtainable and objectively undesirable result: a 1984-like society inevitably controlled by a thin group of elites.

    Replies: @bartolo1

    I am not pushing all my chips in on this. But pretty sure that was tongue planted firmly in cheek.

    “Must not offend the Mighty Eye of Soros”. It is all knowing, all seeing………….the wonderful, wonderful Soros.

  177. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    There were about 800,000 Jews in Hungary in 1939, of whom about 70% perished. The Jewish population was over a period of 20-odd years subject to laws which aimed to inhibit their capacity to earn a living and the laws were made more disagreeable every half-dozen years or so. However, their physical persons were left alone. It wasn't until the Germans occupied Hungary in 1944 that mass deportations of Jews began. The Arrow Cross were in charge part of the time; the business was directed by the Germans. If I understand correctly, the vast bulk of the deaths derived from deportations, with little in the way of massacres in situ.

    Replies: @Jack D

    If I understand correctly, the vast bulk of the deaths derived from deportations, with little in the way of massacres in situ.

    The 20,000 Jews that the Arrow Cross killed and threw into the Danube pales compared to the 440,000 Jews that the Nazis deported to Auschwitz and gassed in only 7 short weeks in the summer of 1944. However, by any other standard, 20,000 murders is a LOT. I think it’s fair to lump the Arrow Cross and the Nazis together and impute their crimes to each other – their goals were the same. It’s just that the Germans were more organized and had the better infrastructure for genocide.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  178. It wasn’t the actual host of the show, Harris Faulkner, who objected. She seemed fine with it. It was the other two women, one of whom was once a spokesperson at the State Department (Marie Harf). Like all government officials she knows who not to criticize.

  179. Harris Faulkner just destroyed her career! Good riddance! I feel so betrayed by her. She was the last of the last on Fox women…but her husband is EST

  180. @Jack D
    @Jim Brewer

    Rakosi repudiated not only his name original but he also repudiated all religion (including that of his birth) and described himself as an atheist and opponent of organised religion. So it's hard to say in what sense he was "Jewish" except in the way that the Arrow Cross understood it - we are back to "the taint is in the blood".

    The number of Hungarian Christians who died under Rakosi was in the thousands, compared to the hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews murdered by the Arrow Cross and their Nazi allies (and the only reason it wasn't millions like in Poland was that there weren't that many Jews to begin with). And some of those were Arrow Cross Fascists who deserved whatever justice they received for their crimes during the Nazi period. And at no time did Rakosi plan to kill every single last Hungarian who was Christian by birth, even though this was exactly what the Arrow Cross had planned for the Jews of Hungary.

    Stalinism was almost as bad as Fascism but one does not negate or justify the other.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jim Brewer

    As to your first point, most self-identified Jews view Jewishness as mainly lineage and culture. According to Pew Research, most Jews have no problem regarding an atheist as a Jew. Nearly all the Jews I have known were agnostic or atheist. It’s not a “taint” but rather an ethnic solidarity. All the Communist revolutions in Europe were led by Jews and all practiced or intended the destruction of Christianity by brutal methods, perhaps seeing this as revenge for earlier Christian persecutions. (I don’t see the existence of long-winded ideological rationales against ‘religion’ as defeating this claim.) Anti-Semitism in the 20th century was mostly political and cultural and had less to do with ‘blood guilt’ and the like.

    To be sure, in an age that approves of collective guilt and punishment and accepts pragmatic justifications of mass murder (as did Bolshevism and Fascism), many innocents will perish.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jim Brewer

    All the Communist revolutions in Europe were led by Jews

    They weren't.

    , @Hibernian
    @Jim Brewer


    To be sure, in an age that approves of collective guilt and punishment and accepts pragmatic justifications of mass murder (as did Bolshevism and Fascism), many innocents will perish.
     
    Agree.
  181. @Norteno
    Soros a great man?? Unless you are one of his communist benefactors I don’t see how anyone could call Soros a “great man” & worthy adversary. He has sworn to destroy the country and has literally put his money where his mouth is. Soros bought politicians have done enormous harm to humanity and created anarchy by destroying law enforcement and the entire rule of law!! Great man indeed!!

    Replies: @Redman, @Jim Brewer

    Not just one country: he has tried to return eastern Europe to its Communist past by funding politicians, controlling media etc.

  182. @Jim Brewer
    @Jack D

    As to your first point, most self-identified Jews view Jewishness as mainly lineage and culture. According to Pew Research, most Jews have no problem regarding an atheist as a Jew. Nearly all the Jews I have known were agnostic or atheist. It's not a "taint" but rather an ethnic solidarity. All the Communist revolutions in Europe were led by Jews and all practiced or intended the destruction of Christianity by brutal methods, perhaps seeing this as revenge for earlier Christian persecutions. (I don't see the existence of long-winded ideological rationales against 'religion' as defeating this claim.) Anti-Semitism in the 20th century was mostly political and cultural and had less to do with 'blood guilt' and the like.

    To be sure, in an age that approves of collective guilt and punishment and accepts pragmatic justifications of mass murder (as did Bolshevism and Fascism), many innocents will perish.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Hibernian

    All the Communist revolutions in Europe were led by Jews

    They weren’t.

  183. @Jim Brewer
    @Jack D

    As to your first point, most self-identified Jews view Jewishness as mainly lineage and culture. According to Pew Research, most Jews have no problem regarding an atheist as a Jew. Nearly all the Jews I have known were agnostic or atheist. It's not a "taint" but rather an ethnic solidarity. All the Communist revolutions in Europe were led by Jews and all practiced or intended the destruction of Christianity by brutal methods, perhaps seeing this as revenge for earlier Christian persecutions. (I don't see the existence of long-winded ideological rationales against 'religion' as defeating this claim.) Anti-Semitism in the 20th century was mostly political and cultural and had less to do with 'blood guilt' and the like.

    To be sure, in an age that approves of collective guilt and punishment and accepts pragmatic justifications of mass murder (as did Bolshevism and Fascism), many innocents will perish.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Hibernian

    To be sure, in an age that approves of collective guilt and punishment and accepts pragmatic justifications of mass murder (as did Bolshevism and Fascism), many innocents will perish.

    Agree.

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